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I see you, brother.

What's going on?

Y'all didn't hear shit.

Comrade Thomas, what's going on, brother? What's going on, brother?

What's going on, y'all?

Crass! What's going on? Cress! What's

going on, bro? I see you. All right, guys, we're going to be doing

our Confront the Chairman's Space today. And by the I see you. All right, guys, we're going to be doing our confront the chairman

space today

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guys,

peep the haircut.

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kept telling me

what the fuck is that

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brother,

but I don't know

what's going on. But y' i got the haircut y'all been

telling me to get a haircut so i got one you know i got that haircut you all been asking me to get

and um you know y'all been asking me to get. And, um,

you know,

uh,

oh my God, Comrade Thomas with the 17.

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Lawn guy. What's up, bro? I see you, bro.

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Appreciate it, brother.

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That's fucked up bro

Y'all are roasting my haircut now

What y'all want for me

I can't do nothing right, you know keep telling me to switch my shit up

and then what y'all are just attacking everything i do i don't understand you know uh we got

we got yo amelia what's going on Amila?

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Thank you so much, Amila.

Appreciate you.

All right, y'all.

So we're going to be doing this space.

I have a schedule for 15 minutes because there's some things.

Australia, Stani. What's going on? But there's some things I want to talk about beforehand and get right into. So basically, why didn't I

buzz it yet? Well

um

Burr what's going on

you guys I do have some stuff to talk about

I didn't buzz it because

I don't know

we're not ready to take that leap until because, um, I don't know.

We're not ready to take that leap until we, uh, we go to war, until the civil war starts, I guess.

But, um, hold on sorry hb what's going on yeah y'all interrupting me big time what's going on what's going on hb all right guys have really, really, really good news

coming up really soon.

And we have,

I can't spoil it.

I can't tell you about it.

All I can tell you is that as it's going forward, I think I'm going to be streaming tomorrow. And then I will not be able to stream for like a week. But it's going to be well worth it. And it's going to be a very, very big surprise. And it's going to be a very very big surprise and it's going to be

very very very cool very cool sleeper cell with the five what's going on what's going on

so uh yeah we got some surprises coming up really good surprises and um you saw the big one

with jackson who met...

Thank you, Circuit.

I appreciate you, brother.

Thank you.

We've got that one with Jackson when he met the political wing of Hamas in Doha, which is super cool, right?

Very, very cool.

And Stalin, bury a gulag.

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what a blessing honest to God

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what a blessed beginning

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but uh we have stream.

But we have a lot of interesting updates coming up.

A lot of exciting news.

Circuit.

What's going on?

What's going on what's going on circuit and that's in the realm of the international department in the case of jackson and also chris both of them uh chris's interview i think was last

year and then jackson also went on the Economic Freedom Fighters podcast.

That's old news, as you guys know.

American Step.

What's going on?

What's going on?

And we're going to be doing the confront the chairman space tonight where people can ask whatever questions, you know, in terms of there, I saw a guy in the comments just now asking about, uh, why you support Andrew Tate. And it's like, but when, you know, when, when, when have I, what are you talking about?

It's got nothing to do with the party, you know?

And then second of all, I'm not going to keep going over this stupid fucking discourse, actually.

I'm just not going to keep retreading it. I'm not going to keep tre fucking discourse actually. I'm just not going to keep

retreading it. I'm not going to keep

treading this ground

and

constantly talk about this.

As if

Jackson has ever said anything

positive about him, it literally had nothing

to do with whatever past he had.

It was because he said the

right things about foreign policy.

And he's a famous

guy who said the right things about foreign policy.

It has nothing to fucking do with condoning

anything he's ever done in his past. All right?

It's such a stupid fucking bad faith,

bad faith led discourse led by feds, right,

to cause confusion and stupidity on a large scale, you know.

So that's honestly that, you know.

Yeah.

I mean, y'all kept telling me to cut it short.

Y'all weren't ready for me to cut it short.

Y'all, you see, y'all keep complaining about my hair all the time.

Kept telling me, cut it short, cut it short.

I did it.

And you know what?

I'm happy I did it because I don't have to take care of it now.

You know.

But I'm not getting that Zoom or haircut no more, you know,

28-year-old man.

But I'm, I'm,

we're trying to get the James Lindsay thing going.

We're trying to get the James Lindsay thing going.

And, um, we're trying to get the James Lindsay thing going and um he's not obliging he hasn't obliged for over a year you know but you know we can hope the the the this whole thing grows, the more that we gain traction, the more that it's going to be more possible.

MF, what's up? What's up MF? Appreciate you, brother.

I'm looking at this retarded chat.

Y'all constantly talking about my haircut.

What do y'all want?

What do y'all want?

You know, a matter of fact, the next event, y'all can line up and be my barber how about that

in may y'all can fucking line up be my barber i don't know what y'all want

you know it don't make no sense to me that y'all are, y'all fixating on this shit.

In any case, you all the experts.

Anyway.

Ha, Ha, Ha.

What was I saying?

Fuck, I actually had some important shit to announce.

Super important shit, by the way.

Um,

I guess he'll have to wait till tomorrow.

I don't remember.

There was, oh yeah, there's some stupid ass fucking discourse.

I don't even want to acknowledge it.

This wasn't it, but I'm just, this is just some shit.

I guess I have to address it

because everyone is.

Hey, you don't. It sounds like y'all know what it is Did I acknowledge the discourse? Should I talk about it?

How though? Yeah, y'all knew. Y'all was about Elon Musk

and his life.

Well, let me think about that.

Let me think about it.

And you know i don't even give a fuck

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very controversial i because everyone really cares all of you care the whole world cares

people in sri lanka care I'm going to be bold here and say that I don't care. Because I'm just a bold original thinker. You know, I'm going to go. Can I say that? i don't care because i'm really original and i like to be

ahead of the curve and i like to be different than everyone.

But also what I'll say is that what's new about this?

This Floyd Mayweather is doing the same shit.

You know,

everybody does that same thing.

Who gives a fuck?

I mean,

what's so special about it in this case?

I'll tell you what's weird.

What's weird is the Silicon Valley

nerds who overthink this type of shit.

I don't like how they overthink

it. All right?

Nick Cannon's doing it.

I don't like how they're overthinking it. I don't like how they're overthinking it.

I don't like how they're calculating it.

Oh, this is the evolutionary.

I mean, you're really overthinking.

I don't like how they do the eugenics thing.

And they're like, oh, yeah, we're going to do the,

that we have to have the high IQ, evolutionary psychologist.

I don't, I wish you would just be like Floyd and not even give a fuck,

but, you know, you got to be creepy, eugenicist.

I don't like that.

I'm not a big fan of that at all, you know. I'm not a big fan of the eugenicism and the creepiness and all that nonsense, really, in general. But I digress. I digress.

I digress.

There's other news, of course,

um,

international news. I'm not exactly sure how important that is

for us today.

Malay is going to get impeached. I did not see anything.

I did not see anything indicating that. I haven't seen any evidence of it.

I have no idea about any of that.

Millay. I have no idea about any of that.

Millay.

Instead of the more important news,

the, again, where it's a continuation of the same,

I don't know what's going on exactly when it comes to the U.S.-Russia negotiations.

I think that there are strong indications right now that it seems like Trump is going to want to settle with maybe a deal that involves Russia keeping its gains from the war.

Because Russia's on track. If the war war continues it's going to take Odessa

right

and then there's

talk about Western Ukraine going

to Romania and Hungary

and so on I have a hot

take on that whole thing and I on. I have a hot take on that whole thing,

and I'm going to share it.

At first, I only said I'll share it in private.

Now I'm going to share it in public,

because I am not Russian, and it's not really my place.

But I am really disgusted at the idea of Western Ukraine going to Poland, Romania, and Hungary.

I'm really disgusted by that because Stalin, if you know history,

just if you care, if you're a nerd

who cares about history, you know

Stalin fought so hard,

so hard, so much

diplomatic maneuvering

and wars of conquest, I mean

war, right?

To gain, to regain, really, the territory from Romania and from Poland.

And I think it is such a shame that that is being reversed historically. That's really the fucked up thing is the reversal of the historical legacy of the Soviet Union to an even further degree.

And I have to tell you guys something that the politics of it are not good.

Okay, it's going to strengthen anti-communism in Eastern Europe by reinforcing the view that Stalin's maneuvers to reacquire that territory were somehow illegitimate and part of the crimes of communism.

And it will strengthen the bulwark of rightist forces in Russia as well.

So if that happens, I don't think that would be a really

good thing, to be honest. I agree with many Russians, and I'm not Russian, it's not really my

place, but as a matter of, let's just call it philosophy, right?

I agree in principle with the view that all of Ukraine belongs to the Russian sphere.

The post-Soviet sphere. I mean, Ukraine especially, all of it belongs to the Russian sphere, all of it.

And I don't know why... There's a lot of nuances to that.

I'm not going to really get into it.

As far as the implications of a U.S.-Russia agreement,

what that could mean as far as plans

to sever Russia from

the BRICS alliances

and former Soviet alliances

that Putin was really spending a lot

of time to cultivate and rebuild

and re-forge.

But all I'm going to say is that there is nuance and you have to consider in way all of the

consequences.

Finally, all of the consequences of what could result from the peace. We would, I mean, of course,

we would benefit very much from peace. They would benefit. The people of Ukraine would benefit,

obviously. The people of Russia would benefit. People in Donbass would benefit.

Heat would be taken off from us. That would be good. And of course, less people would die.

There would be less bloodshed. But let's also consider the wider reality of geopolitics and understand that Russia fought very hard to forge these new international alliances and has many breakthroughs in international diplomacy. And is it

good that all of that is going

might be thrown away completely?

I don't know. You know.

You do the math.

I'm not

very extreme on this matter.

I know there are nuances, but consider all of the consequences, is all I'm saying.

It does seem like there is an effort, though, on behalf of the Trump administration or Trump himself to settle that war.

And it seems like it is being taken very seriously on the Russian side, obviously.

What's going to come of it?

We'll see.

But remember that China is what the U.S. has always been worried about, you know?

That's the important thing to bear in mind always.

All right.

All right, let's um let's let's let's let's find our scheduled spaces all right all right We're going to start the space.

So as you guys know, every Thursday I do these confront the chairman spaces.

The space is now open, by the way.

Every Thursday, I do these confront the chairman spaces.

Last Thursday I wasn't able to actually get to it.

So to make up for it, we're actually going to be doing it today.

And, you know, I want everyone to take note of the fact that this is quite unprecedented and it's not very common for leaders of

left-wing political organizations in the United States or political organizations in general

to do this. You'll never find the leaders of any of our rival and opposing organizations, the DSA, and so on and so on, do anything like this. I am giving the public the opportunity to speak to me directly. Loity, what's going on? I'm not, I'm not couching this in

communications purely in bureaucracy. I'm giving everyone, you the people, really a chance to

debate me, to confront me directly with your questions and

with whatever and i want everyone to understand that that is because we at the american

communist party are not afraid of the masses we are willing to speak with the masses we're not afraid of the masses. We are willing to speak with the masses.

We're not afraid of anyone.

We weekly, on a weekly basis, anyone can confront us.

I mean, they'll call us a call to they'll call us whatever they want.

But remember that we are always extending everyone the opportunity on a weekly basis to confront us with anything they want to confront us with.

So all the time that you're seeing these tweets, talk negatively about us and attack us. Just understand that these are people that can directly confront us with whatever they have to say, and they won't because they know that if they did, they would look really stupid based on how we would respond to them.

In other words, the only reason they're getting away with this crap they say about us is because we are not there to check them.

You know?

All it would take is a few sentences most of the time

to prove that these people are coming from a place of bad faith,

coming from a place of defamation often.

I mean, you'll see that play out in the legal system

in the months to come. And they're coming from a place of

dishonesty, fundamentally. We are the subject of American left politics right now. It's why

everyone talks about us.

And that is clear to everyone.

That is absolutely clear to everyone.

But all of these loud mouths are now given the opportunity to confront

me directly. Joe Sims never did that from the CPUSA. The leaders of the PSL don't do that. The leaders of the DSA don't do that. The American Communist Party does that. So where are all of these detractors and critics critics i would like to see them request and you know say what they say

and all these posts with their voice say with their chest it? Probably not. Right? But if anyone will. Last time we had one of our biggest detractors come up, it turned out to be a guy from Brazil who got into a fight in the Midwestern Marx Discord, and since that time, decided that he was going to become a hater of ours.

And the reasoning was what?

He didn't even have a reason.

There was nothing. He said his WhatsApp groups all

in Brazil something he had no nothing to stand on at all except having a problem with a discord

moderator in the midern Mark server.

And he dances samba or something.

So, you know, that's all we have so far.

If there's anyone else who's going to step up and be a better representative of these people, I guess,

here's your chance.

But where are they? Eddie, is anyone

requesting on your end?

I don't see any yet.

Yeah, me neither. It's quite baffling, actually.

It's quite baffling because, you know, they're being given the opportunity and nothing, you know.

Right, after being in our Twitter mentions all day

yeah that's kind of crazy Twitter mentions on a constant

basis

but for some reason total silence

when it comes to

having a

clear, open opportunity

to say whatever they want to say to us

here and now.

It's quite fascinating, actually.

Looks like we got a couple now. Eternal Orsos, Mercury, or Emperor Shao Khan.

Um, Purple Tuesday.

Why don't you bring the hammer and sickle person up?

Okay.

So I used to be in for a year, you know, maybe a year and a half back,

right before they started getting big, kind of like the peak.

And, um, you know, I was wondering, why is your party disproportionately, like, you know,

Bengali, Arab, there's one Hindu.

What are you talking about?

Well, I mean,

there seems to be a disproportionate amount of non-white

foreign

new blood rather than

you know the accurate

the proportion of population of white

blue-collar workers like I live in a

a Rust Belt state

and a lot of these guys

they don't like mass immigration

they want to protect their trade

and they really resent the

the imported people

here to destroy it

so how are you supposed to appeal as an

American Communist Party with all of these

frankly non-Americans

yeah I think that you get your information from Needs of these, frankly, non-Americans.

Yeah, I think that you get your information from neo-Nazis on Twitter. And I think the fact that we...

I get my information from blue-collar workers I meet in my dying rest belt state where the industry died.

You and your dying state have no information about our party's makeup and how

actually disproportionately blue collar it is you're just you're just assuming that you know

the all the party is just people that are H-1B visa people or

something because you don't know anything about our party

we're not racist. No, no, I've seen

we are not a racist party.

Okay, pull up the picture of our founding members. Please do it.

Pull that picture up in the comments, yes, sir.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

This is where I got the Hindu claim and all of that.

Sure.

Sure.

Post the picture of the founding members.

Do I look like a Hindu to you?

I'm not sure if he actually is.

It just looks a stupid.

You sound stupid.

You just fucked up big time,

talking about the founding members being all.

By the way,

even if we had a bunch of Indians,

that's fine.

Because we don't discriminate based on race.

But so that's why we have people from all sorts of races in our party.

Of course, we're not going to discriminate on the basis of race.

By the way, blue collarcollar people find that unacceptable.

They can have sentiments about immigration, but they don't believe in this metaphysical

gibber about the purity of the race. They don't give a fuck about that.

No, but they care about people from their time.

Okay.

That's how I know. You don't know the first thing about our party.

That's why it's so silly hearing you talk.

You're just getting all your information from these Peter Thiel, Elon Musk,

BAP, I don't even know these fucking people.

Oh, man. Just make shit up fucking people. Just make shit up.

No. Just making shit up.

Well, I don't know where you're getting your

information. You're just the presumption is that

we're all, none of us

are non-immigrants

in our movement

because we're quote unquote third worldists

because we oppose CIA regime change

plans in South Africa

and in West Africa and around the world

and we believe in forces that

represent sovereignty against American imperialism and we believe in forces that represent sovereignty against American imperialism.

And we reject the anti-human ideology of racialism and racism and eugenics.

So they invented this notion that we're a bunch of people who just are resentful toward the white race.

And no one believes this except a very small niche of neo-Nazi ideologists.

Because the left is constantly attacking us, claiming that we're white supremacists, the panologists. Because the left is constantly attacking us claiming that we're white supremacists,

the pan-leftist, liberals, I should say. And meanwhile, we have never ever been confronted with that

claim by any MAGA person ever. We've obviously had MAGA people reject us and repudiate us and so on. Not one time

have they ever raised the claim that we're too un-American and that we're not American enough,

not a single time. So what you're saying is a bunch of nonsense, really.

I mean...

The American Communist Party cannot simultaneously be too white and not white enough.

You have to choose because we are constantly being besieged by both accusations.

You have to choose. Simultaneously, we can't be both. One has to be correct at the expense of the other.

So you should settle on one thing and stick with it

and be sure you're claiming

we're not white enough. Instead

of fighting with us, this largest

source of discursive contention

will be the liberal leftists that are

constantly accusing us of being

white supremacists and two white so you should

beef with them and convince them that we primarily with your rebuttal is that i never brought up the

notion of white at all yes you did you said there are a bunch of ind Indians and brown people and you mentioned skin color, did you not?

My core point was that people from the communities from which the blue collar workers from.

The blue color workers I see they care about their time where the industry is from

where it's predominantly white.

Okay. There is no left-doing organization

in this country that has as much representation

from flyover states, from small towns,

and from blue-collar working class people than our party we have

chapters that are based in small towns all over the country in flyover states in places

where no other left organizations have any footing whatsoever and easily over 50% of our party's membership are blue-collar workers themselves, over 50%,

which is unprecedented for leftist organizations today.

Okay, like I said, I'm Cuban, in in our constitution in our party meetings there's reported mention of a protection of cubans a protection of the cuban working class and i haven't seen that in ACP, frankly, at all.

You don't see us talking about the American working class?

Well, I see you kind of dodge the issue of mass immigration.

And it's harmful effect on working class blue collar.

Would you like to pull up on the party program

sure yeah pull it up absolutely i mean it vaguely mentioned an american but there's very little on

the mass import of immigrants, H-1B visas, etc.

Sure.

Let's see if that's true.

So can you point to 0.15 on the program?

What does it say do you have a

remember when I first looking at ACP

there was like trouble with the link

read it out loud read

point 15

could you direct me to the party website

or where I could find it

because like I started

when I first

ACP.

US slash program the national industrial policy

is that what point 15 says

yes

the communist party stands for nationalization

restructuring conversion of all large-scale strategic industries into state-owned enterprises.

Can you count?

Pat, what is the sixth one say? What is the one after that say? Let's just say that.

Energy and infrastructure

policy what does the next one say

health care and education

reform and the next one

social media reform

and the next one

standardization you said

point 15

right five so let's kind of broke up standardization you said point 15 or 5

so let's get going to go up

0.15 okay

ending mass

immigration and modern slavery

okay so

the commonist party stands for

immediate end of the system

promoting mass immigration and its replacement

of bilateral frameworks for the negotiation

of population exchanges

on a rational and planned basis

so where exactly is the promotion of this wherever you like

it's the 15th point on our program, our party program.

So what about the party members that are all Bengali and mostly. I mean, you yourself

Lebanese Arab.

Bro, I'm whiter than you.

Can you name

three members that are Bengali

in our party?

Not that it would matter, it wouldn't, but I just

don't even know where this comes from.

Three Bengalis? No, one Bengali

and some Hindus.

Yeah.

We're not named, but i've seen Hindus

in the uh so you see photos you took

when the party was first established and we signed

the the whatever declaration of the party

the play i don't know if you're going to

there were bengalis or Hindus at the plenary committee?

It looked like he was to the right of you, yes.

Right or left. I'm trying to find the photo.

Yeah, please find it.

Go ahead. We can do this again i'll read it from the left of what the, at least the external looks. I mean, I would say I have a very good grasp on what a white American is, which is the majority of the working class.

There's no, there's no,

sort of,

my argument is on the basis of the white race itself

is like a neo-Nazi concept.

It's that it's the majority of the working class.

And this is a reality the actual

working class doesn't have any care about metaphysical racial nonsense they don't care about

that don't marry mexican women they'll marry they don't care they don't give a shit they don't

really care they they care about working class communities and culture, whatever, but they have no care for in the world for racial purity at all.

That is a high-le, metaphysical and petty bourgeois academic notion actually not welcome in the academic institutions that rule us today obviously we have to be kind of like a fucking nerd wearing glasses to give a shit about racial purity basically nobody in the real world who's a working class person gives a fuck about that.

What would the party gain if we kicked out every single person who doesn't have skin that looks like mine?

It's not a base of the skin, it's the basis of actually being authentically working class from working class boo call communities.

Who are you authentically anything

American. Look at your entire profile.

I'm looking at it right now.

One click on your profile.

Tell me what is authentically American about

your own Twitter profile.

In one way does that reflect anything to do with the average American person, American work, or the majority that you're talking about?

Would that be comprehensible to them? Would that in the dying, you said you're dying Rust Belt state that you live in?

For the majority of people there, would there be anything comprehensible and intelligible about your Twitter profile?

There's a difference between Twitter

and reality. Of course, my optics

aren't the best, but I'm not like a

Twitter

LARPist. I don't know.

I mean, I will say

my racial views are closer to the American

Respo worker.

I definitely don't think that all American

Rusbell workers have no issue with mass immigration.

Yeah, but you do this weasily

thing where you confuse the issue of mass

immigration with racial purity

and metaphysics, which they don't care about

i've never said i cared for racial purity more like the purity of the the actual cities

the the the retainment of the white working class that has been here for centuries.

I, I, I, I, I, I, you can cry and whine about immigration all you want, but a politics purely formulated on that doesn't address the root causes of mass

immigration which is the capitalist

class and as long as you're

not addressing that and putting that front and center

you can cry and whine about it as much

as you want it'll mean nothing I don't care about

your crying it means nothing to me I don't

I don't know what account you're looking at but it definitely isn't mine because I always put the bourgeoisie, the capitalist classed the forefront of any issue I have.

So unless you control the resources of the country and you have economic sovereignty, you have no say over the immigration question, and you never will.

And that's a simple fact. The only way to control immigration is to have socialism, to have

a communist state in charge, a proletarian dictatorship. There's no state in history that has been able to avoid mass immigration of low-wage workers.

Even Nazi Germany was importing slaves. They were importing slaves from Eastern Europe.

The only countries that were able to avoid the antisocial and destructive phenomena were communist states, and that's a matter of historical record.

The aesthetic problems you have with the fact that I am ethnically a foreigner and an alien,

I don't care.

You can cry about it.

I don't care.

I'm here.

For whatever reason, I'm here. It was God's will to bring me here, evidently, and here I am. And frankly, you can talk about white this, white that, and how I'm not authentically American enough.

But how has authentically American been working for you

for decades and decades of getting fucked over by the capitalist class?

Maybe you should be a little open-minded about the alien and the foreigner in the room who

who is trying to revive working class politics. Maybe you should be a little open-minded.

That's what I'll tell you. Because I don't know what ground you're standing on.

You're complaining about mass immigration.

You're complaining about me.

You're complaining about supposed Bengalis.

I don't even know what you're talking about.

I mean, you took a photo with the Bengali I'm referring to.

I posted it in the comments of the space.

This person is repeated with her assing the mask, recorded me.

You can go ahead and create.

Where was anything before I came

what was going on before I entered the scene

me being a Lebanese

ethnically non-white guy who's a foreign alien

what was going on before I came

to the scene did I did I interrupt

something no you didn't really cause anything I mean imagine before I came to the scene. Did I, did I interrupt something?

No,

I mean, you didn't really cause anything.

I mean,

imagine,

if I didn't cause anything,

why are you here?

What did I interrupt?

That was so important

that I shouldn't have interrupted

as an alien.

My point is that you didn't interrupt

anything in the working class scene. I mean, imagine going up to the average group call a worker and telling him you have to get an X account to retweet Jackson Hinkle all day and go pick up trash. I mean, come on.

Is that what we tell workers i mean

i'd imagine that's

that's what all of your followers do all day

honestly retweet at jackson he'll pick up trash sometimes

and of course i'm not shitting on it but i that's not a Jackson Eagle pick up trash sometimes.

Of course, I'm not shitting on it, but that's not really upsetting the worker

or liberating conditions for the American working

class. So what would be step one of doing that today,

since you were the expert?

What step?

I mean, I would say, in my opinion,

the greatest pathway to reform in the United States

is through existing unions.

Kind of like your...

No, I mean, it's kind of like your shitty idea with the uh infiltrating the

okay so wouldn't it be interesting if our party was already organizing with unions and working

with unions and unionization wouldn't that be interesting interesting? No, I mean, my point

is the majority of unions are extremely loyal

to the DNC.

Well, what if our party was already

working with unions, what would you think?

Would you feel a little dumb for making

assumptions about what we're doing just because of this nebulous i mean it doesn't seem like you're putting in a lot of effort to even understand what our party is or what it does it seems like you're just operating on the basis of hearsay and just your vague nebulous grasp of sometimes what you see on the timeline without even

investigating what's going on or anything.

If you're not willing to put in any effort to know anything about our party, you don't

even know our program.

Don't you think it's a little unfair for you to come here and stand on criticism as if you have any legitimate criticism?

To make criticism, you have to actually have to have done your homework.

You haven't done it.

You haven't shown any effort or willingness to care to learn about the party.

No, I haven't, because honestly the members are kind of a...

What gives your criticism any weight? That's all I want to know. You're consistently...

I mean, I'm Cuban. I don't care if you're Cuban

I don't care I mean by your own logic

shouldn't you be deported

I mean yeah that's my plan

if an Iraq style war comes around

yeah

If what war

I would be happy to leave the United states and sit martinis on a beach in

cuba i don't i'm not sure that has to do with anything so what's your point here what

are you trying to confront me because this is the confront the chairman space so what is it

you want to confront me with here?

Chiefly the sort of

inaction when it comes to actual

blue-colored communities in the United States.

Like that's laughable. You critique by optics.

It's just laughable. It's just not true.

I don't know what else to tell you.

It's laughing. I saw you guys did some things in South Carolina after

hurricane, but where is the connection with the actual

At our ACP Iowa meeting today.

I was talking to one of our lead members,

who's the head of the biggest industrial union

in our entire town.

And he's working to get more of his coworkers

involved with union action and struggling directly within

the workplace. And, you know, we have members like that pretty much in every state across the

country. So, among many other things. So that's something that happened today, by the way. That's just

something that he's reporting from today. Okay. So if that just happened today,

imagine what's been happening for months and you just don't know about it because you haven't done

your homework. So what do you want to confront me with besides the fact that you haven't done your

homework? you haven't done your homework.

I would honestly just say the disproportionate amount of foreign news

in your party.

I do think that

un-American people should be excluded?

You can't see the average blue-collar restbelt worker and think they love these people who came.

If they're based enough, they should be accepted.

That's awesome.

They're important here to replace you, but they're cool.

They're the authentic America working class.

You should go to a punk rock concert with skinheads and shake your head really angrily and talk about how you hate all the

non-whites and all the foreigners and then blow off the steam that way because i don't know what

you want from me well i mean the bengali and talking about as reportedly, you know, repeatedly mass reported me.

Okay, so you have some dumb personal issues that, why do I care about that?

You're confronting the chair.

Well, no, because you're shitty little group chats with a lot of high-ranking people.

They're swarming me

currently

okay what

what is that

what you're here to confront the chairman

of the Communist Party what does the chairman of the

communist party care about your online drama

tell me it's not online drama

if they're higher-ranking people in the acp who are using their numerous group chasted i don't see

it's just some shit i don't even have anything to do with and it's just I don't understand what the point is it's pitiful really

Jake Harrison we'll add Jake Harrison. Go ahead, Jake Harrison. Who are you seeing?

Yeah, go ahead.

Can we have a real conversation here or what's going on?

I just brought you up.

Go ahead, front the chairman no i just like what were the standards for the uh the debate here

because i just came in last minute you can read the title you confront the chairman of the

american communist party okay he just left eddie who do you see is requesting?

We got six here.

Mercury, Emperor, Chalkan, Carl, Mike, Purple Tuesday, and Rambly the Raccoon.

The Rambly is a furry pervert, but can you, we'll save them for last, I guess.

Can you, who do you think should be brought on, Eddie?

It's up to you.

I'll trust your judgment I think maybe

Mercury

That's like I did it

Bring them on

Bring them

Can you hear me

yeah

hey man

I've been a big fan

for a while

I used to talk to a logo a lot

um

see I got it

I kind of have a gotcha

just because of the format.

The thing I always argue with Logo about was Stalin.

So I want to know what you have to say about Stalin approving this,

recognizing the state of Israel three days after it was announced.

Trotsky wouldn't ever let this happen I said I can explain why exactly what happened so Stalin wasn't to blame here first of of all. Second of all, the Soviet Union had always consistently maintained an anti-Zionist view. But in the immediate post-war period, it wanted to act as a world leader alongside America and Britain.

And it wanted to be party to the major decisions they were making around the world.

They wanted to be there and feel like their input mattered and so on and so on.

So when it came to...

When it came to Israel, the Soviet Union was not really invested at all. They didn't have any interest in the region, really. They didn't have any particular thought they put into it. But they did definitely want to feel like they were, especially in the kind of dynamic they were trying to create with America against Britain at the time.

So there was that dynamic as well, but they mainly just wanted a seat at the table, at the UN, and feel like they are making important decisions. They didn't really thoroughly investigate it too much. I mean, it was something that was going to happen

regardless.

The way that they felt

which was a huge mistake,

by the way.

I'm not saying it was a good thing

what they did.

It was a huge mistake.

But in their mind,

it was going to happen anyway and they wanted a seat at the table as far as defining the future of it you know which failed completely um there was also another dynamic i think that should also be given attention, which is the two faces of the Zionist movement. There was one face, which was Lehi and Ergun and the revisionist Zionist, who were the muscle of the Zionist movement that was doing all of the fighting and the killing and so on and so on.

And then there was the Ben Gurian, you know, who was touting himself as someone aligned with international progressive forces, and he is this enlightened guy,

and he is so democratic, and he wants a democratic state shared with Palestine and the Arabs,

and so on and so on. And he would hoodwink the entire world with that front while Leahy and Ergun, the terrorists,

were doing the dirty work. And the Soviets were not very attentive to what was really going on, you know?

It wasn't until the development of the Arab national movement that the Soviets realized the reactionary significance of Israel.

But that was too late.

So it was a huge mistake, I have no doubt, but regarding Trotsky, Trotsky,

allied with Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan, I have no idea why you would think he would have some principled anti-Zionist

position

I'd well

you know

it was a matter of permanent revolution

for international socialism

not socialism in one country.

You know, anti-Zionist

Jews are always the most interesting, because

it really, like, tortures them.

And he really thoroughly repudiated

everything. Trotsky was not...

Thorntzky's view would have been that Zionism was progressive because it's going to civilize the savages.

Because Trotsky subscribed to a linear, Eurocentric notion of progress where you needed to have a you know, a Western form of modernization that needs to absolutely

dominate pre-modern and backward peoples completely, as a premise for proletarian politics.

You're saying he's saying

they can't leapfrog the agricultural

right to the industrial,

that's what you're saying?

Well, no, I'm saying Trotsky probably would have supported

the Zinus

because in his

view they would have been

they were creating the premise

for a proletarian revolution

because they represented

modernization quote unquote

meanwhile

the Arab national movement and the forms of Arab socialism, those were closer in proximity to Marxism, Leninism, just in the sense that they relied hugely on more rural freeholder bases that Trotsky considered utterly reactionary.

And Trotsky, you know, Trotsky is regarded these as bona fardis uh yeah jacobite even as lenin used to say jacobin not jackabite yeah jacobites were the opposite.

Anyway, it doesn't matter.

So that's my response to the question of Stalin and Israel.

It was a huge mistake, but it did not reflect a Soviet investment in Zionist ideology.

It was just a blunder made in lieu of the idea that it was

happening anyway and that they wanted a seat at the table just as a way of projecting power.

But they did not pay close enough attention to what was going on in the region until it was too late.

So that's my answer.

Let's bring...

Who should we bring on next, Eddie?

Let's see here.

We got Christian Figredo-Murie.

Anyone who seems like they're a hater should be prioritized.

Let's see, this guy's probably...

Doesn't follow me or anything. I'm sorry. I'm going to

I'm And connection issues. Alright, let's try someone else.

Alright, Christian, you're up.

Hey, what up, man?

Quick question.

It's for you, Eddie.

So what's your thoughts on the, uh, on the transgender communist movement?

Or the, what is it?

Of the, uh, uh, LGBT people who are like, act like they're like a part of the communist where not like communism is liberal where it was like more so back then you know yeah i just wish we could keep it as two separate things because it causes a lot of confusion for people, and it can be repellent to a lot of members of the actual American proletarian class when communism gets confused with LGBTQ politics and the fight for trans rights or the push for gender ideology to be taught in schools.

This stuff has nothing to do with communism.

If that's the battle you want to fight, go

fight it, but it has nothing to do with

the Marxist tradition. I think

what's happened in the West is the

two things have gotten mixed up, and I think

the CIA has played a hand in this through their

Congress for cultural freedom

in basically trying to mix these two things up.

So a lot of people, and you see this with ideologues like James Lindsay, who I've been going at it with recently, he basically points to this, you know, identity politics-based politics and says that is

Marxism.

You know, Marxism equals wokeism.

And it couldn't be further from the truth.

Marxism is about class struggle.

It's about materialism.

It's about anti-imperialism, right? All these things. And that's what

it's always been about. But now in the West, it's kind of become mixed up with all this other stuff.

And that creates a sort of pseudo-fals version of Marxism that's not very appealing to American workers.

So I just think the two things need to be kept separate.

Then another thing is

what's your view on the second amendment

um pro

which i get the first and second mixed up is the first amendment's the free speech one right

that's the main thing in it and the gun ones yeah yeah the any any effort to disarm the

working class should be frustrated by force if necessary that's what mark said about it um i

think it's actually one of the more revolutionary and based aspects um of the america's founding documents

or or of the amendments that have been added the the fact that we have a right to a militia to defend ourselves from the the state

So yeah support

your thoughts on the, uh, on how America, it's like, um, we are rich how, uh, how, uh, how we are kind of hypocritical due to what's like in the 80s everyone like demonized Che Guevara,

but we all saw a son of modern as like a heroic freedom fire.

What's your thoughts on how America is like allies, rich and swash?

Sorry, Eddie Eddie I had to

Disconnect him because

I know you're very patient

And

You are very understanding

But some people just talk way too long

And really It's very boring but some people just talk way too long and really

it's much

it's very boring. I'm sorry

sir. I'm sorry

but

I do not enjoy

conversation.

I enjoy getting things done because I'm an antisocial freak.

Sorry about that video.

Someone had to...

No, I was about to cut him off too.

Let's bring on the next person.

All right, let's see on the next person all right let's see here let's try carl again

and then

all right car

can you hear me

yeah

okay I just wanted to ask how do you think that the ACP Can you hear me? Yep. Okay.

I just wanted to ask, how do you think that the ACP sort of like, you know, charity work, mutual aid stuff, differentiates from the... It's not mutual aid, to be clear.

Yeah.

How would you describe it is really my question?

Like, how does it differentiate?

Yeah, it's, uh, it's, uh, it's, uh, it's, uh, it's, uh, it's, uh, it's, it's, uh, it's, serving the people because mutual aid is mutual, you know, we're not getting any aid. We're not, we're not,

nobody's aiding our party with, with supplies or anything. It's not mutual.

It's one-sided.

We are aiding the communities in service of them.

And that's standard, not only Maoist, but it's standard in the CPC today.

They do the same thing.

Serve the people. They go and volunteer and they help communities.

They lend a hand.

The economic freedom fighters does the same thing.

It is a standard procedure, standard practice for modern

progressive parties,

especially communist parties.

So that's what that is.

My second question was just

on the topic of like unions, like teamsters

and, you know, big like state unions um do you think that

workers in these unions should be struggling against a bureaucracy that exists within them or should

it be more so like a boring from within type of strategy. Well, look, the primary

contradiction is the

strengthening of the labor movement.

The primary

contradiction is to

fight the companies

and the capitalists.

If in the process

to that union bureaucracies

prove to be a problem,

prove to be incapable,

proved to be

betrayal, you know,

betraying that,

then we can talk about it. For now, when it comes to the Teamsters and other

union movements, there appears to be a willingness and a commitment by the Union movement

to bring things forward.

And there's an awareness that it's not in a good place and that there's a lot that has been lost.

And so we don't want to preemptively declare war on union bureaucracies or leadership.

We want to work with unions.

If they are guilty of what they

are usually accused of,

they'll be guilty in the course of struggle.

I don't know if Eddie you have anything

you'd like to say on that.

Yeah, I think

it varies by union

and the

most corrupt workplaces

from my understanding, which is somewhat

limited, but

the most corrupt

union bureaucracies are in places

where the rank and file aren't involved,

which is a lot of places in America,

because people don't know

the history of the labor movement

and what unions can do for them, but

the more involved, the rank and file members of every workplace are, the more they can

hold the union reps accountable.

I wanted to ask, like, what do you see as, like, the practical steps forward towards you know rebuilding an american labor

movement you know that actually has like a fighting capability and is class conscious and moves

even if you know not launching into immediate struggle against union bureaucracy but moves past

backwards ideas,

which they may have,

and, you know,

launches an all-around struggle for the working class.

What do you view as the practical steps?

I'm so sorry. Could you repeat that?

No, it's all good. I just said, what do you see as like the practical steps towards, you know, rebuilding an American labor movement, which has a combative capabilities, you know,

is class conscious and

works along the basis of trying to organize the

proletariat into structures

and formations that exist.

If that's a union

movement?

More so like the labor

movement in general.

I think it's a little vague what you're saying.

I mean, like, I feel like right now

the labor movement is at a standstill.

I mean, historically,

the amount of people who are in unions

compared to, I mean, decades ago is at an all-time low.

So what I mean is, how can the union movement expand? How can the labor movement expand? What do you view as like the practical steps forward?

It needs to be combined with social media. That's really it. I'm not even kidding. It needs to be combined with social media. And modern information technology. Information is everything. If that can happen, then it can get traction again.

One of the main reasons unions suffered the defeats they did was because of mass media.

And that was a huge factor.

Absolutely, it was.

It was a huge fact. Mass media emboldened the Reagan neoliberalism. Neoliberal ideology was from mass media. Even pop culture, Rambo and all that shit. Reagan got the upper hand. He's a Hollywood actor

because of mass media.

Which undercut

the New Deal,

you know,

labor movement gains.

And that was all from

the top.

And all that neoliberal

poison and crap

convinced people

to

reinvigorate

the Republican

party

and then

the Republican

party just did

a clean sweep

and there was

no way

to hold them

accountable for it

because no one

cared because

it was cool

you know you know you know one wants to be a pussy it was cool, you know?

No one wants to be a pussy who's voting

Democrat, you know?

And just things

like that, you know?

But now with social media, all of that,

there's a discursive

feedback mechanism

where

you can hijack these processes

and any direction.

There's a lot of freedom

to push back.

And just like the elites did their top-down engineering, we can do our own.

You know, we can have our own, not engineering in the sense of manipulation, but we can have our own vibe shift now.

And that needs to be conscious, methodical, and it needs to be conscious methodical and it needs to be organized and that is one of the

most decisive factors there are a bunch of others i agree there's a ton of other factors obviously

but if you go,

your typical

shop floor,

your typical industry or factory, whatever you have it,

and what's stopping people from even wanting to hear about unionization? It's always some psychological

bullshit they got from the media, or even mass media and social media. It's always some, you know,

it's always some crap that they heard about from somewhere that convinced them that

was the right vibe. You know, that's the, oh, you don't want to be one of these union people. You don't want to, you want to be independent. You want to be a real man. So it's so psychological. It's so, um, there's so much psychoanalysis involved even,

you know? And social media has a way of tapping in directly to the source of all that. So I hope that

answered your question.

Now, I'm going to bring up Rambly just for a second because our intel tells us that Rambly wants to talk about Pokemon.

So Rambly, go ahead and talk about your question about Pokemon and imperialism because you wrote in your group chat that you were going to confront me with that.

And I want to give you the opportunity to do that.

Because you told all your friends that that's what you were here to do.

So go ahead and do it.

Oh, you wanted me to talk?

Yeah, what you said in your group chat about how you're going to talk about Pokemon and imperialism.

Oh, yeah, no.

Does it serve imperialism?

Does playing Pokemon serve imperialism though?

I think you just wanted to hear yourself say that and you thought it was really funny. So I'm, I don't...

No, no, no, no, no.

Answer the question has.

Does it serve imperialism or no?

I want an answer.

You should ask the group chat

what they think.

No, no, no, no.

Answer the fucking question.

Don't...

So that was the him,

and we were, you know,

we obviously, all these people's chats are infiltrated by us.

And, you know, I was told what he wanted to ask.

And I gave him the opportunity to ask it, and he did.

And that's it.

I mean, so there you go.

Uh, Wodee, go ahead.

Go ahead, Wodey. Yeah, I don't meet yourself Hello?

Yeah, what's up?

Oh, dang, I must hit that button on there.

Yeah, I was looking over that program

and I really do have an issue with that 16.

Can you expand on that, the abolition of the drug trade

and criminal enterprises as a standalone

phrase it doesn't sound bad but you know going into the description um i was wondering if you

could expand on this a lot of this seems pretty harsh can you can you go into that a little

bit what do you take issue with in particular seems pretty harsh. Can you go into that a little bit?

What do you take issue with in particular?

Some of the words that are used, you know, the Communist Party stands for the swift and merciless prosecution of criminals who terrorize American communities and families.

I mean, there's some

interpretation there

and

socially harmful vices.

You know,

wholesale shutdown of pornography.

I mean, I'm not

going to die on the hill of defending pornography, I mean, I'm not I mean, I'm not going to die on the

hill of defending pornography, but

also here, you know, talking about

elimination of gangs, it seems

a little rough from where I come from.

I'm originally from the danger class before I were

reformed and became political political I just wish you could

expand on some of this a little bit

well I don't know what there is

to expand on beyond what it what's written

so I need to know more about what

you take issue with

what does elimination of gangs mean?

It means

the removal of these

antisocial, you know, ad hoc

forms of organization and paramilitary

groups, violent groups,

and groups that have formed that have circumvented the social norms of communities as well as the laws shared by the communities they live in so that's what it means you know it's the removal of these

kind of these forms of organization that stand above the social moors and laws of the people.

Okay.

You know, so the swift and merciless prosecution of criminals, you know, in America, we have a real problem

that stands out, and that is our incarceration

rate. I would say that

it's actually a class

un-cuit- People that are terrorizing

innocent people.

If you're terrorizing, innocent,

hard-working, honest Americans, and you're terrorizing innocent, hardworking, honest Americans

and you're engaging in violent actions against them,

violent, your assault, you're just beating a woman on the street out of nowhere,

things like that. Terrorism, that's what it is you're terrorizing american communities kidnapping

rape i think for many of these things these are committed by people that have declared war

against everyone and i agree we have a very high incarceration rate and for a

lot of for these violent crimes especially against women i believe in quick trials okay uh well i would you is it uh any thought

i believe in two things quick trial and labor reform. These are

the two things I believe should happen

to criminals who terrorize

American communities and families.

One of two paths, depending on the

severity of the crime. Quick trial

or labor reform.

What about integration into the party and politicizing and mobilizing people that have been on?

Labor reform would hopefully accomplish that.

Okay.

All right.

Thank you.

Yep.

Thank you. Yep. Thank you. Go ahead.

Go ahead, Henry. I have nothing to see anything. go ahead henry nothing

specific to say i'm just you know

listening

then why the fuck did you request speaker

you know

so i can like chime in if you know

the topic comes up.

So that's,

we don't do that here.

You know,

I don't know what,

I don't know where you got that from.

You just hang out.

It's like a peanut gallery.

That's not how it works.

All right.

I don't know what that is or what you think this is like a

Mario Nothal space or some shit

where we bring people on

with nothing specific to say

but that's just not how it works

anyway Eddie specific to say but that's just not how it works anyway eddie is there anyone else

yeah we got two more uh mike and emperor shell con bring in shalt Khan. I want to know

what... Yeah, you already know.

Go ahead, Shao Khan.

Hi to you there, Haas.

Yeah, I used to be actually a big critic

of yours. I used to go by the name of Cairo Buffaloski, but

for a while, right?

But I've actually

sent, at the last two weeks,

I've actually

decided to not attack the ACP,

thanks to Eddie

actually explaining some things

and me actually deciding to

like you know engage like in actual

rational discussion

and actually considering actually

joining the ACP

I just have a question about, like,

I've read the party program.

I just want to know what exactly is the strategy to get to the point where these things can be implemented.

If you know what I mean,

that's all I have to ask for a confrontation.

Yeah, I mean, the program is just to give an idea about what vision we have for the future of, you know, the country, what kind of policies, what kind of ways in which we would set about the course of socialist transformation but the only way to

accomplish it would be acquiring political power and the only way to acquire political power

for the communist party will be if the existing political power collapses, you know. And I say that because I think there's a

misconception that a lot of people have, which is that grand states and empires can be overthrown ad hoc and we've never seen that in history what we've seen is these states collapse first and after they collapse or after they're in crisis that's when communists have been able to seize power but never have communists been able to seize power in big states

some of not big ones you know when there wasn't already a fundamental crisis and we just so happen to be facing such a crisis today in the united states

you know we're facing a constitutional crisis and country will be reconstituted and we don't think it'll

do so without trouble i think it will be unsuccessful. I think Trump, he has some very, very radical changes he's planning in terms of causing trouble at the highest range of power and once the old

order collapses i don't think he's going to be able to reconstitute it successfully you know so i think

that that is that's the context, that we have in mind for, for seizure of power.

Okay, I get you. Thanks, thank you for the explanation.

Anyways, you can go and move on to the next person. That was all I had to ask you thank you um I would actually if logo I don't want to pressure you thank you Kyle by the way I appreciate it a logo if you want to come I would be very honored, but it's up to you.

You don't, no pressure, but

that would be very, that would spice things up, because so far

it's just kind of, anyway, Eddie, do you want, do you know anyone else who's requesting right now um i don't know any of these people but

you want mike paul or is he's uh uh you can choose all right we'll go

but the one who doesn't follow me

yeah All right, Aziza.

Okay.

Yeah.

Hello, can you hear me?

Yeah.

Okay.

My question is in massist analysis, there is the agent of change.

Change don't just happen because of contradiction or material interest clashing. So in

the United States, who is going to bring

the change?

Is it the common next

party? Are you going to be the vanguard?

Are you going to actually do something?

Or you're just going to wait for history to play itself out and the state collapses and then you take power? Are you going to actually actively as an agent intervening the process and bring your body change.

That's my question.

Yeah, that's a good question.

So the way to reconcile the two seeming contradictions within Marxism, right?

The one main contradiction, like, on the one hand, there's the Leninist need for political intervention, and on the other hand, there's an anticipation that the development of history will result in contradictions coming to a head and the transformation of the existing mode of production. So how are the two related?

Well, the first thing is that it is absolutely true that the change is inevitable, and it's absolutely true that the contradictions coming to a head is also inevitable.

But the need for a Communist Party lies in a responsiveness. There's a need to respond.

There's a need to intervene because there's a need to respond to it correctly and scientifically.

Of course, people will inevitably respond, but they will respond in ways that are not characterized by knowledge of the object, right?

So this will be obfuscation, it will be confusion.

You know, historically, in the transformation of modes of production people saw these changes as the

doomsday the end of times they saw them as the day of reckoning they understood it in terms of

superstition and they either happened or society collapsed

you know in madness today i think we are in a unique circumstance where the only way for

history to move forward is

if there is scientific knowledge of what's going on.

Because if there's no

scientific knowledge of what's going on,

then there's

no way for the contradictions to be

reconciled. There's no way for the contradictions to be reconciled there's no way for the

the real cause driving forward these contradictions to be understood and um that is because of

the unique nature of the capitalist motor production.

Can I just jump in here and give you a concrete example? So during the 2008 crisis, the financial crisis,

I was doing my job at university then,

and one of my masterist professors were like,

oh, this revolution is going to come, the working class is going to take over because the

financial system is collapsing. But what happened? The right wing actually took over

power I mean Europe I'm in the United Kingdom

the right wing parties

actually took over power and the Communist Party

did not succeed

Jeremy Cobbin I don't know if you know of Jeremy

Cobain he came in but

he was defeated so I don't think history itself is blind. I think

yes, should be an agent. This is the, this is the, this is the, this is, this is, come as his contribution,

that the working class

is the agent of change. He actually

specify the

group that is going

to actually change

bring about the revolution, bring about

the change. And that group

is the working class. i don't see you i've i've looked at your

your programs i have not there is no there is no you don't seem to put weights on the working class

you i'm you do you there is the working class.

There is no working class.

Your class analysis is not very sharp. It's not like the working

class is going to bring you back to revolution

in America. I've not been able to get that

from your analysis.

Well, our party's

slogan is that the future belongs

to the working class and the working

class is enshrined in

our party constitution as the subject

of our politics and

it is a given regarding our program as well.

So how do you define the working class concretely?

The working class in America today can concretely be defined as those whose labor valorizes capital.

Those whose subsistence rests on the laurels of their labor. And nothing else.

Okay.

Okay. Okay.

Yeah, I agree with you.

Because I think the Berniceanders kind of people,

I think they are officiating communism.

I think the whole, I don't know if you remember

the one-percent movement.

I think it's actually

making people confused.

We are not fighting the one-percent.

We are not fighting the billionians.

We are actually fighting

the ruling class, which is the capitalists people

that have share stock crypto people that actually don't work for their subsistence this is the

this is the difference so if even you are so-called middle class and you don't have to survive by actually

working, then you are part of the

ruling class. It's not the bellonia. It's not just the billionia.

I think the idea of the

we are fighting the 1%

I think that is actually

part of the problem. That is actually

neoliberalism.

It's like, don't look at just the Elon Musk.

Well, I don't believe in the idea that...

I think there is a hegemony.

There absolutely is a hegemony.

And what I mean by that is that there is a hegemonic capitalist class, a monopoly capitalist class, because let's remember Lenin's imperialism was 100 years ago.

And he was writing about the tendency toward monopolization.

Yeah.

And since that time, it has only gotten unfathomably worse.

So the real industrial proletariat is always a minority.

It always is a minority.

But the broad strata of the masses should be judged to what extent

they are outside of the hegemony to what extent do they depend on the hegemony directly so hegemony is an important concept.

We cannot say that

we cannot say

a guy who's trading crypto

is on the same level

a guy who's trading crypto

who came from nothing is on the same level, a guy who's trading crypto, you know, who came from nothing,

is on the same level as, you know, Mark Zuckerberg.

One is part of an institutionalized hegemony.

The other is definitely economically benefiting from these new opportunities and so on and so on

but they still retain a degree of independence from the hegemony and therefore their loyalties are not necessarily concrete so this is a very

important distinction in my view and then the second thing i would say is that regarding this

question of agency it's important to understand that the content of agency needs to be defined by

responsiveness toward the development of material reality.

So, agency is not when you voluntarily act because you

have superior ideas or a

superior vision of the future

or even a pre-conceived

notion of change in your head.

The changes are happening.

They absolutely are already happening

the breakdown is already happening you mentioned

2008 that was an example there's many

others yeah these things are happening

what's necessary is

responsiveness and that's what the left did not have it wasn't responding

concretely to material conditions.

It was rather...

But can you give me a concrete example how the left should have appropriately added

after the financial crisis?

What would have been, according to your own theory of change your your your your your

your your your party's theory of change what is the correct intervention they should have absolutely

rooted themselves in the popular majority the rural rural working classes, the actual real working classes, and formed a stronghold of anti or counter-hegemonic politics.

But what did they do was the opposite.

What they did is they rooted themselves in the universities

and in Hollywood and in the media

and in the main institutions

of bourgeois society and

they alienated themselves from the masses

and they became the face of the hegemony

themselves.

And they committed suicide because what they did is that they kept

ostracizing the masses for being too backward and not progressive and advanced enough because they

weren't because they were outside of this bubble you? And they got too arrogant

because Obama was president and the

Democrats were in charge. So leftists who

were sitting in universities and in the

citadels of the hegemony,

they were thinking to themselves,

oh, it can only get more progressive

from here. On the premise of the hegemony they

articulated that they wanted to push things further and further to the left right at no point

did they adopt a counter hegemonic position which is rooted in a fundamental rejection of the existing

institutionalized hegemony and a full and unconditional wager on the popular masses and this is exactly why they failed the success do you have a

success you have a great okay good good go on go sorry sorry sorry sorry success would have lied and some

by the way some did do this successfully for example

in south africa

the economic freedom fighters

very successfully

very successfully responded

to the international economic

crisis

do you have a

critique of the 1% movement?

I don't know if you remember the 1%

movement. The Occupy

Yeah. Do you have a critique

of them? Do you think that

the conception of the problem

that the billionaire class, problem that the billionia class

the whole Benisandah's kind of thing

the bellonia class is the problem

if you ask me

the massist analysis is

how much is not

critiquing individual

or the units

the human unit. I think it's

precisely the social

relationship of production.

So it doesn't matter if you have

if you have still

yeah, but if you look at the social relationship

of production, you've got the

capitalist class. Those are actually have capital.'ve got the capitalist class.

That is the theoretical

that's, yeah, go on, go on.

That's the theoretical dimension of

Marxism. But in order to concretely

apply the theory, you have

to comprehend the formation

of hegemony's so theoretically within marxism there is a fundamental class contradiction between capitalist and proletariat and this is a contradiction that is irreducible it's fundamental at the level of the relations of production

as they emerged in capitalism.

It has nothing to do with villains.

It has nothing to do with being morally good or morally bad.

It has nothing to do with being greedy.

It has nothing to do with...

It doesn't have it to do with the content of your consciousness. It doesn't have anything to do with um with with with having to do with the content of your consciousness it doesn't

have it is a material contradiction that will for inevitably regardless of the subjective

states of mind and and and positions of anyone, right?

But, on the other hand,

the bourgeoisie, because it is a concretely and materially existing class, tends toward the development

of monopolization and the creation of institutionalized hegemony's that in fact represent the dictatorship of a very specific subjectivity a specific outlook a specific ideology a specific consciousness for example and a specific ideology, a specific consciousness, for example, and a specific type of corruption, institutional corruption. So all of the things that populace attack the system for, corruption, greed, all this, they're not wrong. That's all real. The problem is that they don't always correctly have a scientific understanding of the root causes, and that's where it becomes a problem. So, in my view, the problem with the Occupy Wall Street was not necessarily that it was against the 1%.

That was something that was able to resonate with a lot of common people, very intuitively.

But when it came to correctly understanding the root causes,

there was a lot of confusion.

And that's where it collapsed into confusion and failure.

Because people started to say that the root cause was a subjective uh a subjective uh failure the bad

bologna and a good below a failure in subjectivity right yeah yeah yeah logical conclusion from that

was identity politics because if this is a failure

and subjectivity

then okay well the billionaire may be

oppressing me but I'm also

oppressing minorities I'm oppressing

gender people I'm oppressing fat people

I'm oppressing this be

so that's intersectionalism and all that was a logical inclusion in a lot of ways of an inability to have a scientific understanding of the cause. But all I would say is you should be careful not to say

it should be just Marxism

and no populism.

Because the

dominance of a theory

which is Marxism

will always necessarily accompany the dominance of a specific institution that has a material basis.

And for a very long time, Marxists in the West, that institution has been academia, and it has been the Democratic Party and the hegemony.

And to whatever extent, the masses were not receptive to that specific theory,

that's how they understood who was progressive and who was not progressive.

Yeah.

So I've seen where me and you have have serious disagreement.

So you believe that the theory of, I don't know if you're going to be

Drumsky, he's the one that

brought the idea of

hegemony, he articulated

the idea of hegemony and

a lot of

people have run with it.

I don't think we, that is

the Western Marxism.

I actually think that that is a corruption

of autodos

Marxism.

The idea that you need,

the idea that you need

populism, you need majority,

you need a lot of people

to

bring it back revolution or

bring it back socialism.

Why do you need

the majority? Where does it?

It's a liberal idea that the majority should rule

it's not it's not a socialist idea it's a material fact that the only strategy for the victory

of the proletarian class is populism and all no no no no but historically tell me which it was was the um was in uh was lennie the

um start with majority even did mao peace no it is that no no no no Lenny actually

actually the

what was the name of his party

actually in Russia actually

if you translate the name of that party

I forgot the name now actually means

the minority

That was the name of the

That was the Bolsheviks

The Bolsheviks were the yeah yeah the boy yeah the

actually means minority no no no bolshevik means majority menchevich means minority

no the but the leninists they were the actually the minority when the aparthe split.

And also, there's no, no one is, look, no one is talking about the liberal democratic idea of a majority vote necessarily being what's essential to the truth or to the correct position.

What I'm trying to say is that Lenin's whole strategy was this idea for Russia, a revolutionary strategy,

which he said should culminate in a revolutionary democratic dictatorship of the workers and the peasants.

And the Mensheviks, on the one hand, said that we must wait for the city bourgeoisie to win and overthrow the autocracy. And once the city bourgeoisie to win and overthrow the autocracy.

And once the city bourgeoisie wins,

then the peasants will all be proletarianized.

And then we can have our pure class struggle between proletarian and bourgeoisie.

And Lenin basically was saying, no,

the city bourgeoisie is part of the

Tsar's imperial hegemony

they are the beneficiaries of the system

they'll never take the revolution as far as it needs to go

to really topple and shatter it

so Lenin said we need to make an alliance with the peasant majority

the real real masses the real people and we once we make that alliance we can topple not only the

bourgeoisie we can also topple the autocratic system.

So you can have both the bourgeois revolution and the proletarian revolution combined basically into one.

Okay, let's apply this analysis to the United States. what i believe the idea of populism is

brings about in the united state of today is that you are so-called massists or socialistic

the united it's just hegemony because as i told you hegemony just let me up

any look hegemony does not just come from gromsky lennon had a comprehend he didn't call it this

but lennon had a comprehension of hegemony and by the, so did Mao when he talked about bombarding or encircling the cities from the countryside.

It's the same strategy of besieging establishments and institutionalized hegemonys from a counter-hegemonic position where there is ambiguity.

It's not necessarily inevitable that the peasant or rural, real masses, are going to usher in socialism but that's the only opportunity see it's an opportunity it's a possibility

there's no possibility of that happening within the hegemony. So that's why

populism is important everywhere, in my

view.

Okay, this is what I was going to say.

If we decide to look at the United

States today, the vast

majority of the people pretend

that they are so-called

middle class. So they

refuse to see themselves as

working class. They think that it's too

beneath them is the meaning it's

something to be ashamed of. So they want

to be middle class. And the

politician always say, oh, we have to make sure we take care of the middle class and be middle class. And the politician always say,

oh, we have to make sure we take care of the middle class and the middle class.

So that idea of the middle class means that they're distancing themselves

from the idea of the working class.

I could explain the middle class.

Okay.

The notion of a middle class is a consequence of

the post-war period in which certain concessions made and forms of recognition to the working class

became institutionalized by the state politically

not necessarily by the hegemony but by the state politically so it became part of the

political and economic infrastructure of countries that workers were given minimal rights and standards and regulations

and that became part of the fundamental material operating infrastructure of entire countries

you know not just a hegemony of regulations and so on and so on but a premise of all economic

activity was this was this institutionalization of yeah the welfare state.

You can call it... Yeah, some people...

I don't like the term

welfare state

because

when most people think of welfare,

it's applying to the unemployed

and people who aren't working.

So I think I like the regulatory

state term more

where it's like there's more there are regulations

there are standards for labor and there are it's not just a free-for-all like it was in the past

so there are but in in europe welfare doesn't mean that.

I understand.

In the U.S.

I'm just talking about the U.S.

So this phenomenon gave rise to a working class that it wasn't just given concessions.

It was also institutionalized, you know know into the machinery of the state and as a consequence of that the working class became um uh how should i say they adopted a way of life

that was not purely just based on survival

but based on subsistence

based on

a specific culture and way of life

but why don't you don't say that we are a specific culture and way of life.

But why don't you just say they were co-opted into the capitalist class? Because it's not necessarily...

They're co-opted.

I'll tell you why I have a problem.

Now where? Okay, go.

I don't think so, no.

Because it became a material fact and a premise materially of economic

intercourse that these regulations were made they weren't made just as a way of appeasing and giving the workers a breadcrumb, like in the labor aristocracy.

It became a fundamental premise of production.

For example, the rise of the light industries, the automotive industry as well, that's a big one,

depended upon the ability for the majority or masses of people to be able to afford it, to afford these goods.

Yeah. So this was something material it wasn't just that they were co-opted as a as a material fact they became integrated with a new logic of production.

And they became more similar to how peasants were actually in the past,

where they were based in subsistence, not necessarily just survival for wages, but subsistence, which means a basic ability to reproduce their conditions of life.

And for the content of those conditions of life to preponderate in terms of the

nature of that reproduction. So basically,

peasants subsist

the subject and object of their production is their own

way of life, it's their subsistence.

Proletarians survive. They sell their labor is their own way of life, is their subsistence. Yeah.

Proletarians survive. They sell their labor for a wage.

They're thrown into crowded slums.

We don't see the subsistence of a specific way of life.

We don't see the subsistence of a specific culture and a specific family or anything like that we see social chaos we see the breakdown of social reality just like it's described in the communist

manifesto so if you're going to be a populist

movement in this setting,

in this environment that you...

All I'm saying is the subject of politics

is always a positive way.

That's why we credit the economic freedom fighters because their

demand is for land redistribution which sounds petty bourgeois to someone right they're not they're

not advocating for the state to own all the agriculture and everyone work as an employee for the state

they are advocating for people to be given land plots of land that they can subsist off of because and that's

the same thing lennon promised the russian people peace land and brett yeah and the same thing Lenin promised, the Russian people, peace, land and bread.

Yeah.

And the same thing Mao promised.

So the subject of proletarian politics, in terms of what way of life, what real aspiration and demand, is always

the subsistence

of a specific social

form.

And it's never just

we're going to completely recreate

everything from scratch

on a new place.

There's a specific

thing. There's a specific argument

I'm trying to draw out. In a situation

if you live in a country where everybody

think that they are middle class,

how does

the socialist or the communist party into the day? class. How does the socialist or

the communist party? It's simple.

Even that position

that they're clinging to, which their grandparents

had in the 50s, is dying,

it's unsustainable, and it's not working

for them anymore. People should not

be faulted for having the reasonable expectation of being able to support a family on a single income

and being able to reproduce a normal way of subsistence in life.

There's nothing wrong with that.

Even in Russia today, when they're nostalgic for the days of the soviet union they're nostalgic for the

same thing a specific kind of form of social subsistence there's nothing wrong with that people should not be

faulted rather they should be they should be educated about the fact, which I think they already know, by the way, but they need to be hear it to know that their suspicions are confirmed, that that is no longer possible, that that is breaking down,

that that is being disrupted and destroyed, and people are being reduced to serfs.

They're not being turned into classical proletarians in the first time around

this time around it they're being grinded into destruction you know they're losing everything

and they're becoming jobless and homeless and lumpenized and declassed and addicted to drugs whatever it's really the destruction of humanity you know the first time this happened the dawn of capitalism you had proletarianization, which was a devastating thing, right?

But this time around, there's no proletarianization.

Rather, it's a destruction of human life, humanity as such.

And that's what's at stake so

my last this is going to be my last

intervention

um

there is this this, you can summarize the historical Marxist approach this way.

One, you've got the state Marxism or state socialists where the state actually drive development the state actually

no no try to there's no contradiction you see in in in both russia and china

they did not only have state property.

In Russia they had the Kolkoses,

which were historical,

a historical continuation of the peasant form of ownership

that was before serfdom.

And that was not owned by the state. In China, the situation is slightly different.

The people's communes were not owned by the state, but they were very big.

So they were at the scale of a state. But with Deng Xiaoping's reforms, what happened? What happened was the household's responsibility system. And from there, you know, we see China today where, yes, it's basically peasants who own land, subsisting off of it.

That's kind of changing a little. It's changing and they're being recompensated with homeownership,

but that's a different topic. But in any case case the state plays

a very active role in development

in all the cases I mentioned

it's just that

you don't

the Trotskyist dream

or the old social democratic

dream of the state

or bourgeois socialization eventually reaching such a point where everyone is completely landless and completely cut off from any kind of social existence and institutionally everyone can just be re-engineered from scratch and everyone's going to be an employee of some new big institution that's socialized in one way, that has nothing to do with the concrete experience of communism.

It's completely not the opposite of what happened.

So your program still depends on private property and entrepreneur run the economy.

There was there was entrepreneurship in the Soviet Union okay and an enterprise is not necessarily first of all an enterprise is not necessarily for profit so that's the most important thing. According to Karl Marx, property takes the form under capitalism of capital that's the fundamental

form of property capital which is money for money's sake. That is not necessarily

the only thing

an enterprise can do. An enterprise is principally

an economic endeavor.

Economics

that is not

directly

created by the state is not necessarily for profit okay i'll let you go now

thanks anyway i really really appreciate your effort.

And you guys should keep it up.

For sure.

See later.

Cheers.

Yeah.

All right, guys, there's no one else requesting that I can see.

I think Eddie had to go. So I think we're going to wrap it up there so guys we'll be back next week goodbye Goodbye.

I am so... Thomas with the five.

Thank you, brother. I appreciate it. I am so fucking tired.

Which I woke up tired today. I don't know what it is.

I woke up super tired today. Super tired.

Anyway, y'all, we're gonna wrap it up.

I'm so tired, man.

I got eight hours, but I'm just like...

I woke up so fucking tired. It's crazy.

Thank you.

Whoever that was. Thank you.

Oh, man.

Oh, I just got a stretch here.

Yeah, it really doesn't.

No, it feels like that Cypro-hyptidine that's what i feel like

i feel like i took cyprophyptidine but i didn't so somebody fucking spiked my shit with it All right y'all

See you guys

I'll see y'all

I'll see y'all.

Sometime.

Tomorrow.

Actually, it may not be tomorrow.

I don't know.

The Patreon will do that soon.

I don't know so guys uh sorry i'm so tired that sounds so ominous depending on what happens um i may not be able to stream for another week, like seven days, depending on what happens.

So, yeah, that's, but very exciting stuff is going to, is happening. So just keep that in that in mind all right i'll see you guys

sometime i want to go live tomorrow because tomorrow's my last opportunity to go live

and then for seven days i won't be able to. So that's why I'm saying.

But I may not be able to tomorrow.

We'll see.

We'll see.

Anyway, if you reach the fucking goal, yes.

All right?

If you reach, if you boost the tweet,

maybe.

That'll definitely influence my decision.

That will definitely do wonders.

Anyway, y'all... Do you think about me? Do you think about me?