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Never made it as a was man
Couldn't cut it as a bullman stealing
Tav leaving like a bum man
I'm sick of side without the sense of feeling
And this is how you remind me.
No, no.
This is how you remind me of what I really am.
This is how you remind me of what I really am
This is how you remind me of what I really
And I can say sorry
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just thinking
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heart
voice breaking
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Come
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To find a
Every battle
I'm
I'm trying
I'm in my head I'm is my head
in my head
it's not
it's not like you need to know that
it's not like you didn't know that
I said I love you
and I swear I soon to
and it must have been so bad.
Because living with me must have down you killed you.
And this is how you remind me of what I really am.
This is how you remind me of what I really am
Not like you to say sorry
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Oh, I'm thinking
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up
up in the bottom up in time and you're not a heart for sprinkling I've been wrong
up in time
been to the bottom of every bottle
despite worse in my head
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Nothing wrong.
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Got the key to unlock and the brain to unchange.
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I keep hearing bingo.
Bingo.
I never end in dream, a dream of you.
I believe I'll be seen a find out of you.
I do what I want to find out of you like to.
As you do, I don I want to be with you
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I'm going to Higher and fire, freed from desire,
Fires on the wire, like a dicing dryer
Or sound of sick, solid like a brick,
My dog is a dingo i keep hearing bingo
bingo did it with the teacher she was hot like sassizsia
chop chop
yeah Yeah I've never had a dream of you
I believe I'll be like to see because I love you with you. I've never ended dream of you.
I believe I see
because I love you. The You thought you were someone
You thought you had a life
You thought you had a life you thought you had a woman
but then that moment passed
I don't believe you alone
it's so evident
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you alone
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be it heard
to you
the light
everyone from you.
Yeah. I thought I was a woman
I thought I had a life
I thought I was calm
But then that moment passed
I don't believe you know
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I don't believe it alone.
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and now
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To you and The Tell me if you know someone that needs
Now we've been through a lot of things
Tell me if you know someone that needs
Jim
Mano
There's in a lot of things Tell me if you know someone that needs
Yeah
Been through a lot of things
Tell me if you know someone that needs.
Sitting by myself, I'm just thinking about all I've been through.
I wish I was dreaming.
Man, it's hard to be an angel
when you surrounded by demons.
I watch so many people leave.
I see him changed by the season.
That's mama's seasoning.
God got you.
The devil's watching.
He's just peeking in.
I know I made a promise
that I'd never let the Reaper in.
But lately I've
been losing all my deepest friends.
And lately I've been swimming on the deepest
end. It's just drugs
and ain't no hugs and ain't no love there.
You've been down so much you don't even know
what's up stairs. Suicidal
thoughts got you wondering what's up there.
And why to introduce a party, they say it's up there.
Too many pills, so much potion, so much pain, too many emotions.
And everything that you do good and just go unnoticed.
Did they tell you that you good and just stay focused?
Mama, you was the life for the party. I swear you brought life to the party.
When you lost your life, it took the life out the party.
That woman rode with me like a holly.
Visions of my cousin in the cell really scarred me.
Moving to the hood was like signing up for the army.
Because they've been killing, just watching Bonnie.
You want dreams to come true, but I had nightmares.
Because if that come to life, then I might not be right here.
Been in the dark so long, don't know with the light here.
But I'm just reaching for the scars like Buzz Light, yeah.
And now I'm light years ahead of those nightmares.
I dead at those night tears when the night clears.
And if I talk to Christ, can I bring my mother back to life? And if I die tonight, well, I see her in the afterlife. But back to reality, where everything's a tragedy, you better have a strategy, or you could be a statistic. Little boy dies, he just wanted a mystic. And steady crying because she really the victim now she's
getting high and she's getting addicted and an older boy just stuck with the picture painted vivid
that's a family portrait and her daughter just absorbed it 16 pregnant baby daddy said she's
here the border but we can't afford it
So she decides to move forward baby shower time father didn't show up
Now she's just feeling nauseous like she's gonna throw up the water flows down the legs
Yeah it's fin to go up a year then they went by. A daughter just turned one.
And she's still depending on her mom.
Big brother in the streets, he went and bought him a gun.
You want revenge because the pain feeling numb.
And her mom still doing drugs because that's the only time she feel love.
Is it real love? Do the scars really heal love? And her mom still doing drugs Because that's the only time she feel love
Is it real love
Do the scars really heal up
From all the pain that been built up
But they don't feel us
A week then flew by
Big Road riding that he see the guys
Left this little brother on the side bleeding from the side he's
seeing red it's like it's bleeding through his eyes to see him dead the only thing that i helped the grieving up inside he even let him get the last meal he done with the streets after this this is last kill he gotta show him that is that real he ran upon him with the streets after this, this is last kill. He got to show him that is that real.
He ran upon him with the pipe, like, staying still.
You took my brother life, you made my mother cry.
Tell me one reason I shouldn't send you up to Christ.
He said, go here and take my life.
I seen everything but Christ.
The big pro just blacked out and all you seen was the light.
Jesus. Tell me if you know someone that needs
Jesus
Love
Uh-huh
In the name of the true and living God
The Beneficent the Merciful
Thank you for bringing me up the rough side of the mountain
Like Earth through Every knee bowed and every tongue confessed and paid homage to the monk who visit
Rob Childs like the lonelius dead bononica. It's J. Electhan Tandronica coming through your
monitor. Back from the great meanda, the son of man and the son of Donda. I never rode the jigs of the r six of the honda but i flew my ducati through north america like wakanda earthquakes will strike this nation from what bush did to rwanda with the clinton's dead to haiti and down the street did to ghana and to post land they call me terromoto, El Niro local. I shake the tectonic
trade to the game if I lay one vocal. The god is interstellar why you fellas remain local. My
bars is like the pyramid temples, Apocopovoza. It sure as the DOJ confirmed these Igu's will,
I can change the world like I've got cool cool but two pieces of steel my swore to my
microphone i swore to the christ's stone but when you great they want to say you took a l jose
could still i'm in the fight here fight here for what seemed like light gears my rugged cross and thorny
crowns squeeze out christ tears dirty pieces of silver clout my peer at price tier
It's a war outside
It's a war outside
It's like the last days of Sodom and more outside
Tell me if you know someone that needs
Jesus
We're doing a lot of things
Tell me if you know someone that needs Jesus
life
Tell me if you know someone that needs
Jesus
Lord
Been through a lot of things
Tell me if you know someone that needs
Jesus Lord
What up,
Ye?
This is Larry Hoof Jr.
First and foremost,
I want to thank you
for taking a fight for my father
to the old office.
You might not have been the only one
that could have did that, but you were the one
that did do that. And with your assistance, we can continue to let the world take part in this
fight. You know, to me it kind of feels like me, my mother, my brothers, and my kids have all been incarcerated through this journey.
And we haven't even been to jail.
We've been looked at and treated as criminals for being a part of this family.
My father's true.
And the reality that he raised me in, is that
he wanted to make a change in this community.
Because the conditions in this capitalist
society is what made him,
and it's what made the children of the day.
After 25 years of being
locked down 23
and 1, my father has not called
any shots from one of the most
secure and segregated prisons
in the world, and will not
once released call any
shots for the gates of the site.
If my father's intentions were to lead us to death, destruction,
and to the hell that he has had to live in for the past 26 years,
man, he would be dead to me.
I didn't say enough for that.
I didn't stay on this journey this long for that. All my life, man, I've been waiting for my father to come home. They told me when I graduate
eighth grade, he'll be home. Then they told me, when I graduate from high school,
he'll be home. I went away to Morris Brown. I graduated, and he still ain't home.
Now I'm an adult,
and my daughter went away to college graduated. He's still
not home. Now even more than that,
my son, he
graduated in grade, and we
still waiting.
Matter of fact, he has a hug, kissed, or touched any of his grandchildren, and they haven't been able to touch their grandfather.
Even though it is not seen that way for some of us, but for many of us, Larry Hoover
is a beacon of hope for his community
who deserves to breathe free air.
Free my father.
Mr. Larry Hoover
sing.
I'm not afraid. Yeah. I'm not afraid.
Yeah.
It's been a ride.
I guess I had to go to that place to get to this one.
Now, some of you might still be in that place.
If you're trying to get out,
just follow me.
I'll get you everything.
You can try and read my lyrics off
but it's paper before I lay them.
But you won't take this thing out these words before I say him.
Cause ain't the way I'm gonna let you stop me from causing man.
When I say I'm gonna do something, I do it.
I don't give a damn what you think.
I'm doing this for me.
So fuck the world, feed it peens.
It's gassed up.
Everything's stopping me.
I'm gonna be what I set out to be. Without a doubt, I'm tired of plea. And all those who look down on me, I'm tearing down your balcony. Knowing fans a bus, I'm trying to ask him why, how can he? From infinite down to the last relapse album, he's still shitting whether he's on salary, paid hourly until he boughs out or he shits his
piles out of him, whichever comes first, for better or worse, he's married to the game,
like I fuck you for Christmas, his gift is a curse, forget the earth, he's got the earth,
to pull his dick from the dirt, and fuck the whole i'm not afraid i'm not afraid to take a stand
everybody everybody come take my head come take my walk this road together through the storm
Whatever weather cold or warm
Letting you know that you're not alone
All up if you feel like you've been down the same world
Okay, we're playing with the siss and shit and cut the crap
I shouldn't have to rhyme these words in the rhythm
for you to know it's a rap
You said you was king
You lied through your teeth
For that fuck your feelings
Instead of getting crowned your kitten captain
To the fans
I never let you down again
I'm back
I promise to never go back on that promise
In fact let's be honest.
At last, me last CD was aired.
Perhaps I ran the accents into the ground.
Relax.
I'm going back to that now.
If you're not afraid to take a stand.
Sun Gorilla March
I'm way too up to back down
But I think I'm still trying to figure this crap out
Thought I hadn't mapped out
But I guess I didn't
This fucking black clouds
Still follows me around
But it's time to exercise
These demons these motherfuckers are doing
Jumping Jacks now I'm not afraid I'm not afraid to but it's time to exercise these demons these motherfuckers are doing jumping jacks
I'm not afraid I'm not afraid to take a stay
everybody everybody
come take my head come take my
we'll walk this road together through the storm
Whatever weather cold or warm
So let you know that you're not alone
I'll look if you feel like you've been down the same road
And I just can't keep living this way.
So starting today, I'm breaking out of this cage.
I'm standing up.
I'm going to face my demon.
I'm manning up.
I'm going to hold my ground.
I'm fadding up. Now I'm so fed up. I'll hold my ground, I've had enough, now I'm so fed up, time I put my life back together right now, now.
It was my decision to get clean, I did it for me, admittedly, I probably did it subliminally for you, so I could come back a brand new me you help see me through
and don't even realize what you did believe me you I've been through the ringer but they
can do little to the middle finger I think I got a tear in my eye I feel like the king of my
my world haters can make like bees with no stingers and drop gay. No more beeflingers, no more trauma from now.
I want to promise to focus on handling my responsibilities as a father
so I solemnly swear to always treat this root like my daughters and raise it.
You couldn't lift a single single on it.
Cause the way I feel I'm strong enough to go to the club
Put a corner park
And lift the whole liquor counter up
Cause I'm raising the bar
I shoot for the moon
But I'm too busy gazing in stars
I feel amazing
And I'm not afraid
I'm not afraid
To take a stay
Everybody
Come take money
Come take my
We'll walk this road together
Through the storm
Whatever weather
cold or warm
Just letting you know that you're not alone
All up if you feel like you've been down the same road
Have you ever The The The Ain't no question if I want it, I need it. I can feel
the story
drip it away from me.
I'm on the edge
so why you play
I'm saying
I will never ever
let you live
it's down is down down down
down nothing nothing nothing
nothing I see it I dream it
I can feel a story
gifting away from me
No more chances.
If you go this, you bogus, I will never, ever
lift you live this down, down, down.
Penitentiary chances, the devil dances,
and eventually answers to the call of autumn.
All them falling, the lover balling.
Got called with 30 rocks.
The cop looked like Alec Baldwin.
Intercentury anthems based off inner city tantrums.
Based off the way we was branded.
Face it, Jerome, get more time than Brandon.
And at the airport, they took all through my bag and tell me that it's random, but we stay winning.
This week has been a bad massage.
I need a happy ending and a new beginning and a new fit it.
And some job opportunities is lucrative.
Just the real world. homie school finish they
stole your dreams you don't know who did it i treat the cash the way the government trees says
i won't be satisfied to all my niggas get it get it ain't no question if I want it.
I need it.
I can feel the snowy,
quickly away from me.
I'm on me and so why you play it?
I'm saying I will never ever let you live this down, down, down, down
It's hip hop just
Get ready y'all. Oh, and I'm Oh
and
I'm
Oh and I'm
I'm
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and
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I'm going to be. Gorillas.
You know what I feel like? I feel like that scene from Dune 2 with Paul Atradis where he says, I see multiple possibilities, multiple. And then I see one line, one line to cut through all of it. And if we could do it, it just might work out. You know that scene?
That's exactly the type of time that we're on over here. So I'm Shorty with the one. What's going on?
That's exactly the type of time that we're on over here.
You know, this whole communism thing, that's what is.
This is exactly what it is.
In a sea of multiple possibilities, there's one you cleave right through all of them. One succession of events. One time circuit. One path. The golden path. the golden Stalinist path and you can forcefully and at the expense of the lazy and idle inclinations that would lead history in a different direction impose upon the
history of mankind impose upon the very history of the cosmos in the universe.
A communist future, a red future.
That is precisely what it's all about.
And it doesn't come easy.
You see, let me go ahead and say something here these uh what do you call them groipers their symbol is a fat lazy frog they go hoss brown, you're brown, you're not even
American. And then
what do I see? They
import some British guy named
Soleiman Ahmed
to be their figurehead.
And that guy
sits by and he watches
them say all these things about
brown people.
To a guy named Haas
who is simultaneously
accused of being white by leftists.
And then I think, I think, wow, the sickle fancy, the, this is a coalition these right-wingers are building, particularly the, the, uh, the Groypers.
It's a coalition
of tethers, foreign tethers,
and it's all
based on sickle fancy. It's based
on social networking.
And you don't think me and
Jackson knew
about how that works we're very well aware of how that works
because they tried to groom jackson into their ranks they knew they couldn't do it with me
but they underestimated Jackson.
They said, this Haas guy, he's actually
a dark Sith Lord.
We can't compel him. We can't use
our
Jedi mind tricks
on him, because he's actually an advanced Sith
Lord. But they underestimated Jackson because he's young and they said, no, we could maybe bring
Jackson over to our side. And they tried. They didn't understand where the KGB were 10 steps
ahead of them. Anyway, when you become Suleimanmet or any of these other people tethering to and orbiting
and kissing and paying tribute basically oh my god it's like that one guy from 300 when he betrays the spartans and he just gets soured with wealth and you know i wouldn't say women because but nonetheless wealth and clout
and popularity
and it's just instantaneous
you just get instant access to a
10 years long
online phenomena and movement
instantaneously
you reap all the benefits of it.
And I am so baffled at these fools
who continue to try and portray
Haas Aldeen as a fascist or a far right person
or what do they say?
They say, oh, you're a Nazi, this and that if that was true why wouldn't
i have joined that coalition and been a prince literally been treated like a fucking prince had i joined
their coalition look put this into perspective.
Race is not an issue for them
because they brought over that Soleiman
guy. You don't think they would
have begged and
prayed that a
fucking warrior like me would have joined them?
You don't think they were,
they literally would tell me and DM me.
Haas, I wish you would join us.
Us.
Red Demos.
We wouldn't be able to sign up for the party announcement vetting process. Haas, I wish you would join us. Us. Red Demos.
When we were able to sign up for the party announcement vetting process?
Red Demos, thank you for the 15, but if I was willing to tell you right now, why wouldn't I have announced it before? There's a reason.
Okay? What am I just going to tell you
on stream right now? No.
We will tell you
when
we can.
Okay? We can't do that right now.
Don't mean to sound like a dick, thank you for the 15, but it's like what?
I'm just going to say that now on stream. I haven't thought about that.
We can't tell you about that right now.
There's too much at play.
I can't even, I'm not even going to go into it.
Anyway, look, Haas, put it this way, okay? Infrared is not the biggest movement on the internet.
Obviously it's not.
But that's because we're building our coalition from scratch rather than joining the ones that exist
as a strategy which is what everyone everyone climbs through the ranks by
brown nosing something that already exists by the way, Nick Fuentes did the same thing
to the mainstream
conservatives.
He used to
forget what it was called.
He worked for some
mainstream
conservative thing
before he,
you know,
went to the
position he did.
And even then, he had to work in a coalition with Richard Spencer
and all these people he now hates.
But we didn't do it that way.
We are being very selective about the coalition that we are building from scratch
because we are raising the banner of a new authority a new authentic authority built through conquest
and through the power of conviction and belief alone.
No need to Brown knows anyone. in any case let me continue let me continue
these people who say that
they say I'm insincere, pan leftists and liberals are like, oh, you're in Oswald, you're this, you're that. Why wouldn't I join the existing, I could literally do anything doing that?
Sammy Besie's, let's say I didn't even believe in anything I said. Let's say I don't
even have any conviction and I don't have belief. Even in the interest of making money, okay,
and getting rich, if I was truly a grifter, I would have joined that coalition a long time ago.
I would have been rich.
You know how many whales are over there?
Literally, a lot of rich people.
Lot of rich, rich, rich people.
And they will throw tens of thousands your way being in that coalition.
Red Demos, even if I was a cynical, non-ideological person, just in the interest of getting a yacht it would have been way smarter to do that so why
didn't i do that ask yourself that question because not only do i not believe in the ideology of the far right, it's not just that I don't believe in that. It's that my actual beliefs and my actual convictions preempt the possibility of me selling out to them. That's how strong my actual beliefs are.
So put that into perspective.
Put that into perspective.
Anyway, it's so silly
people don't use their head they don't think
but
why am I bringing this up because
you see the sickle fancy
you see the sickle fancy it You see the sickle fancy.
It's all a social network. Everyone's friends.
They're getting access to the cloud, all this things.
And our coalition is glued together by something different.
It's not glued together by friendship.
I think, I don't know if this is too much to say,
but I think I'm starting to kind of really get along with those Midwestern marks guys.
And, you know, even friends, you know, that's how I see it.
But you need to understand that's very secondary. It's like it's a coalition based on belief, based on shared conviction, based on a shared vision. It's not based on social networking and sickle fancy or anything like that. It's based on a shared vision and a shared conviction about
American communism.
And that's what glues
us together. Not, oh, we have
see, a lot of these people, they respond to me, they go,
you know what, Haas? America First is way more relevant than you guys.
Okay. So what kind of coward did your father raise? Because it's Father's Day. It's not going to be Father's Day and Six. By the way, happy Father's Day.
I was actually at my family's house today.
But what kind of coward did your father raise?
The person with the bigger number is who you're going to go and scatter to?
What are you a fucking Jackal, a hyena? This is why you're not my audience. You are a follower. You're a sheep. You are a, I mean, and, and, and you know, your leaders will admit it. They'll say, we are the lions and they are the sheep, and that's what you are.
And I don't want to,
I'm not trying to insult anyone,
but you know,
why do I always observe
that these people are full of retards?
Thank you, hot take.
Watch Nick's little speech
on the steps to the grow wipers.
Somebody started in America only chant as a replacement for America first.
Hitler writes copying Bolsheviks all over again.
Yeah.
But why, you know, there's so many autistic people and oftentimes retards who were like you know
like in friend groups how there's like a kind of mentally disabled person and you just take care
of them and you hang out with them and you have
their back like I feel like there's a they're very disproportionately represented in those ranks
and they're just followers they just follow it's like you know it's not I mean look I'm not
gonna insult I don't want to name names but space la roosh
you know it's kind of like which which are the people that lack the
the kind of fortitude to be like, no, this is what I believe, this is my position,
I ride with this movement, because this is what I believe.
Not because, you know...
Well, I'm lonely, and I want more friends, and I want to go in the forest for forest retreats. You know, Oh, I'm lonely and I want more friends
and I want to go in the forest
for forest retreats.
You know, like,
which one,
who are we looking for
to be our partisans,
to be in our army,
to be our soldiers?
You know?
This is not a, you know, what, people who are lonely and they want friends.
That's not what this is for. A matter of fact, these far right people, what do they say? They call each other, friends.
F-R-E-N-S. What a pathetic, pathetic worm you are. You want friends, and that's what you're basing your political beliefs off of, the need for friendship. My guerrillas have the psychological fortitude to be locked in solitary confinement for 5,000 years purely meditating and contemplating the wisdom of Enverhoja.
Just Enverhoja.
I didn't even mention Lenin, Stalin, Marx, Engels, just Enverhoja.
5,000 years.
Legs crossed, meditating.
Enverhoja. The collected works of Enverhoja the collected
works of enverhoja
mastering that specific Albanian
synthesis of dialectics
see that's what our guerrillas are made of
it's not about friendship you can have friends
you can still have friends but that's not about friendship. You can have friends.
You can still have friends, but you're not going to base your political beliefs on friendship.
You're going to base your political beliefs on a very harsh and cold and ruthless and uncompromising conviction in relation
to truth.
You see, that's the difference.
You guys aren't that relevant.
Okay, you had 10 years.
You had 10 years, And we just got started.
Look, there's no need to get upset about this.
Just wait.
Just wait and see what has more longevity.
Anyway, let's get to the substance, because people are saying things like, oh, right-wingers aren't the real dissidents?
Excuse me.
Well, you know, neo-Nazis are still censored and condemned publicly and stuff. And it's like, you know, it's so funny. Because when you go out in public and do your siege hails and do your Hitler salutes, there's no controversy about where you align.
Everyone's like, yeah, that's a neo-Nazi.
The liberals, your so-called liberal enemies,
are so comfortable with you as an enemy.
They're so comfortable with you as a villain.
Like, they can tolerate you as a villain. They're like, yeah, liberalism or neo-Nazism.
I'm happy that being the only choice. They're happy that being the only choice.
What does that say? Soviet squirtle, what's going on? But hold on. Think about this for a second.
When you go out in public and praise Hitler, nobody is questioning your sincerity. Your biggest liberal enemies are saying that
is a person who is a follower of what Hitler believed, because they are comfortable with you as a so-called
opposition, because they can handle you as an opposition, because it is a conflict for people to have
to choose between a rotting and failing liberal capitalist system
and the cannibalism
and psychopathy of Nazism.
And liberals are fine
with that being the only choice.
Think about it.
The only reason anyone votes for Joe Biden
the only thing they have to convince people
anonymous what's up
is Nick Fuentes it's been 3,000 years
should we check in on the captured gorilla
Salafsar Salafsar Salafsar
I don't know what this means but But think about this for a second.
The only thing the Democrats run on is what?
Well, he's not Trump. He's not a fascist.
He goes, skibity, toilet. When will you be debating Groypers?
Get in VC in the Discord.
Link the Discord, guys.
Get in the show queue, we're going to bring them in.
But,
put it this way.
They,
what was I saying?
The only thing the Democrats run on,
like Steve Colbert,
is stupid, skimity toilet, Trump is using Hitler's rhetoric.
Oh my God, if Joe Biden's really bad,
but the alternative is Hitler,
they're fine with that being the only choice.
They're fine with that.
It doesn't bother them.
But tell me this.
Why is it then when any capital C communist movement arises, both historically and today, right now in America?
Tell me why liberals and liberal leftists refuse to recognize us. Why don't they recognize us? Why do they say that Haas is a fascist? Why do they say that Eddie from Midwestern Marx is a Nazi? Why do they say that Stalin is a red fascist? Why do they say that, for example,
Xi Jinping is a fascist? Why can't they just acknowledge that we're communists with a capital C?
Because our position is so powerful, it's so so revolutionary that even acknowledging it as a
possibility threatens the integrity of liberal ideology and the liberal worldview even acknowledging
this as an alternative position to the mainstream liberal hegemony is fucking dangerous to them.
Even acknowledging that this golden path of communism is possible to have. You don't have to be a Nazi.
You don't have to be a liberal. You can be a Stalinist,
communist with a capital C. Neither of them. That is what they find dangerous. They can't
acknowledge that. They can't concede that.
They need it so that the only option people have is being an alt-right degenerate or being a shill of the Democrats and the hegemony and the liberals.
They can't accept there's another possibility, one that reconciles the contradictions of our system,
one that transcends these contradictions, which overcomes them on their own terms, which
heals the wound by the spear which smote it, as Zizek pointed out.
One that addresses the root cause of the contradictions of our system, recognizes those
contradictions, inscribed them on its flag and on its banner.
See, the communist way
is, it's indecipherable.
You can't domesticated.
The liberals can't even acknowledge
it.
They can't even
accept it. It's like it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's not, it's not like a fascist dictatorship, and communism is national and form, but it's not nationalistic.
It's not liberal, but it's also not reactionary.
It's like the very fact that it's a possible outlook threatens them.
Why do you think that is?
Because when liberals have to hit that big red button, the emergency button, we're on our last legs,
systems about to implode, they're going to hit the Hitler button.
That's the option, their plan B.
See, there's plan A, liberal he hegemony and they have a plan b
fascism and they are totally fine with that it's plan c that they're scared of you understand
it's plan c that has them shitting bricks. It's plan C they don't even talk about. Because the mere evocation, the mere semblance of the possibility of Plan C has them waking up in cold sweats at night. They can't even talk about that
one. It's such a given to them that they don't even talk about it. Oh, of course we're not going to let
communism win. Are you crazy? That was the view of the architects of the liberal
world order in the post-war period
it was just the given to them
what do you think we're going to let the communists
no no no no no way no i mean look
fascism's bad and we were flirting with it and stuff
but come on communism that's like the end of the world
that was the German
liberal bourgeoisie in the Weimar era. Communism, it's just, you can't even acknowledge it. It's like,
nope, may as well, may as well be the end of the world for them.
Well, guess what?
I want to say this in my official capacity, without being hysterical.
I'd like to clear the air.
The end of the world is coming.
The apocalypse is coming. And the horsemen of the apocalypse will be Mongol horsemen.
And they are coming to pillage and loot and burn to the ground, the empire of the bourgeoisie.
And there is absolutely nothing, absolutely nothing. Anyone, alt-right, liberal, pan-leftist, I don't care what you call
yourself. You stand in the way of this army, and you are going to get mowed down. Doesn't matter
what flag you raise or rally yourself under. You can't stop the force of history itself you just can't you just can't now let's get these people in vc
now let's get these people in vc
now i sound uh loud and scary.
I know a lot of these people are very timid.
Don't worry, I'm a civil person.
We can very calmly break down the fundamental errors of your worldview and we'll let you repent even
we'll let you repent it's okay it's a safe space to repent and atone for the sin of having a
fundamentally wrong outmoded, and false worldview.
And we will bring these Groyper's in our VC, and we will see if they can stand to the challenge.
But let's do it you know i see a lot on twitter so let's bring them in vc and let's see because i'll be very call i will be happy to calmly explain to these people
why they are getting everything wrong.
Literally everything wrong.
For example,
one of the things they say is that the whole world teamed up against Hitler.
Really? You're talking about the phony war.
Or are you talking about Operation Barbosa when they didn't open up a Western Front?
The Soviets were single-handedly fighting the Nazis.
The West did nothing.
How is that teaming up against Hitler?
Listen, I want you to talk.
They themselves will admit this.
Why is it that veterans of the german army and the ss all admit that when the war was coming to a close and they realized like okay
shit we lost the war all of them unanimously went to the West,
and they thought they were going to negotiate a deal with Eisenhower
to relieve the West to go east.
And, okay, at least don't let Germany be conquered by communism.
They literally got on their knees
and begged Eisenhower and
Churchill. Come on, guys.
We're not going to let communism win.
So they
preferred liberalism
over the communism.
Now, you tell me who's teaming up on who.
They preferred the liberal capitalism over communism.
If these were socialists like they claim they were, why would they do that?
Wouldn't communism, if they were telling the truth about who they were, be closer.
You know, East Germany.
They claimed they were against degeneracy and casino capital.
I mean, East Germany was a much more well-integrated, healthy, non-degenerate society than the West,
but why did they prefer the West?
What was so bad about East Germany?
If we just go by what they're saying in their propaganda.
Because they're liars. Because they're liars. That's liars that's why anyway let's bring this guy up his name is
king trump hello go ahead go ahead speak
there was a little bit of a delay
from watching the stream so I just
muted the stream and now
I can hear you pretty clearly
I think I should just start with my tweet
right since this is what it's from
you tweeted something and I replied replied to the tweet, I said,
pause, you don't even believe in Jewish power. The hegemony is Jewish and Zionist, and you fail to
recognize former. You have no credibility to speak on who is a dissident and who isn't.
Great. That's a great place to start.
So what makes you think the hegemony is Jewish?
Just over-representation in all of the positions of power in American society.
All right, but I've been, I've had this argument many times.
All right, the over-representation is not exclusive to Jews.
Jews are overrepresented, but so are other groups.
But if they're not a majority, how can the hegemony be Jewish?
If they're not... Two things. The majority of the people who are the faces of the hegemony are not Jews.
Secondly, the majority of Jews are not a part of the hegemony. So how does the math
work here that the hegemony is Jewish? I'm just curious. It's not that the character, it's not that
the entirety of the hegemony is Jewish. It's not that the entirety of the
power structure is Jewish. That would be totally ridiculous
and basically impossible just based on logistics.
I agree. It's about the character
and it's about the character
and it's about the character of the hegemony, right?
You and I both agree that the character
of the hegemony is Zionist You and I both agree that the character of the hegemony is Zionist,
and you proclaim this over and over again on your show, you say this on Twitter, and we are
in complete agreement over that, and I think you realize that, but what we differ is that we
would say that the character of the hegemony itself is Jewish.
Why?
Because to say that it is Zionist,
and to distinguish that from the fact that it is Jewish is wrong,
because if you look at um if you look at left-wing Jews if you look at right-wing Jews you'll notice that's something that they agree on for the
most part is Zionism and even with these left-wing Jews that are recently popping
up, you can see that
a lot of the counter-protests, or a lot of the
protests against Israel
for Palestine have been orchestrated
by Jews. And you can see that even
through this, they're able to control
the narrative, and they're able to control the narrative and they're able to control
the way in which Israel is...
Let's... Let's do it from a left-pink angle.
Let's dial this back
a little bit. So I think you're
saying two different things. You're saying the majority of
Jews are sympathetic to Zionism.
And I think the facts show that this is the case in America.
We can get to the causes. But yeah, it's true. But if I say the hegemony is Zionist, how does it square that that means it's Jewish just because Jews are sympathetic to Zionism.
I mean, it doesn't mean that, because, for example, the majority of Americans are sympathetic to Zionism. The majority of evangelicals are sympathetic to Zionism. It doesn't square,
logically speaking, that people who are sympathetic to hegemony
ideology are themselves the root of the hegemony. All that tells me, for example, is that Jews in America
grow up brainwashed into buying into the Zionist ideology.
And by the way, a lot goes into brainwashing them. It doesn't come naturally to them.
A lot has to be done to brainwash them, to bring them on these birthright tours and kind of constantly pump them with falsehoods and propaganda.
I mean, they have to lie to these Jews.
American Jews, do you agree with this?
Do you agree American Jews from when they are born are being lied to about the reality
in Palestine? I think everyone
is basically. But aren't they
especially being lied to and being told
that Jews are fighting for their survival
and they're trying to do another holiday?
They're being so lied to.
They're confused. It's Jews for generations that have been
like to.
So if Zionism is naturally
consequent from
a Jewish character or a Jewish
background, why do the Jews
have to be lied to about the Zionism?
Why can't they just tell them the truth and be like, yeah, I mean, Israel's like slaughtering these people.
It's committing all these injustices.
But it's in our ethnic self-interest to do it and might is right.
So, yay, Israel.
I mean, they can't sell that to Jews.
You're saying that the character of Jews is not naturally this evil Zionist entity because they have to be brainwashed in the first place. That's precisely the majority of Jews in America, like any other human being, believe in basic values of morality, of justice, of righteousness, they're human beings. How to convince a human being to support the beastial and evil ideology of Zionism, and I feel like this is a Christian view, you have to lie to masses of people. You can't tell them the truth, because how could it be that it's in human nature for people to just
naturally and spontaneously sign
off on this stuff? How could that be?
I don't, I'm from racial self-interest.
It comes from racial self-interest.
The same way that you can mobilize black people.
If it's in their racial self-interest,
why do they have to be lied to? Why can't they just be told the truth in private and then have them sign off on it? Well, I don't think they're literally demons, right? I mean, as much as we can characterize them and say stuff like that.
I don't think they're literal demons.
I think they have some sort of a moral compass as other humans do.
But I think that they have a racial self-interest, maybe more so than other races.
The same way that you can mobilize blacks, for example, to act a certain way.
They've not acted this way forever, right?
They used to have a complete... Look, look, here's the thing.
Even if Jews, you know, have each other's back when it comes to politics or whatever.
Like, let's not get into that.
For now, let's solve that and table that.
Let's address the fact that the majority of Jews do not share in the power of the hegemony,
and the majority of the people who are the face and make up the hegemony and pull the strings are not jews so how can we justify the equation how can we say the hegemony has a jewish character because jew Jewish people are inextricable
from the current hegemony.
Our problem is not with hegemony itself.
Our problem is not...
I understand that.
That's precisely...
That's my problem with you.
Your problem is not with the actual hegemony.
It's with a specific detail about the hegemony.
No, our problem is with this particular hegemony. Our problem is not with her gemony per se.
Okay, but this particular hegemony, this particular hegemony, this particular hegemony,
qualitatively speaking, is not
mainly Jewish. Zionism.
It's Zionism.
Zionism is... Which is informed
by their Jewishness. No.
Zionism is a detail
within the ideology of the hegemony.
Zionism is a modern ideology which was created to solve, quote, unquote, the Jewish question.
And it solves the Jewish question, quote, unquote, according to the ideology of the hegemony that already existed
before any kind of Jewish Zionist power or whatever. So Zionism is the way the hegemony is resolving
this religious conflict in Europe.
By the way, among which there were many religious conflicts.
The Protestants versus the Catholics being the principal one.
But there's also the conflict between the Orthodox and the Western Christian Catholics and Protestants.
So Europe has this internal religious problem,
and it has this so-called Jewish question, the question of assimilation,
the question of, you know, Jews are somehow outside of our society, yada, yada, yada. So Zionism is the way that the people who pull the strings within the hegemony elected to resolve that problem. So the ideology of Zionism is a hegemonic ideology, but it's not, the hegemony doesn't exist to serve
Zionism. Zionism is just part of that hegemony, specifically on the question of solving,
quote-unquote, the so-called Jewish question.
So it used to be very much clarified. When I say the hegemony is Zionist, I'm not saying
the cause of the hegemony is Zionism. Zionism is a symptom of that deeper cause. It's not itself the cause. The cause,
and this is where you have to put your thinking cap on and maybe read some books,
the cause is the rule of a specific class. The rule of a specific class whose power and whose position is based on
their control of the fundamentals of the resources that we need as societies in order to reproduce
ourselves that we depend on. Our railways, our natural wealth, our factories, our infrastructure, all of these things that we need as a society is monopolized privately, as private property. And this system underwent such an
evolution that all of it got concentrated in the hands of what is effectively a cabal. The overwhelming
majority of which is not jewish so ask yourself
this question all right if this class is devising zionism as the solution to the so-called jewish question
for economic reasons,
for political,
for historical reasons,
how can we say the hegemony is Jewish?
What is so Jewish about it?
Well, I just think it comes from a racial self-interest again right i'm not saying that i'm not saying
that jews are the only ones that are capable of developing this sort of egemony i'm saying that
the current hegemony is jewish and characteristically it represents that in negative ways i
i wouldn't i wouldn't have a problem.
Okay, I want a direct logical sequence.
You say the hegemony is Jewish because it serves Jewish racial self-interest.
If that is true, why do Jews need to be lied about about the nature of their own self-interest? Can you answer that?
I don't think they're completely lied to. I think they're lied to about some of the details, but the overarching point of it is that this is a racial self-interest
and that this is a Jewish state.
And to some extent, that is true, right?
It's not a complete lie.
Wait, wait, wait. You're saying, okay, so they're not being lied to
about the fact that Israel... Not completely.
Well, put it this way. Well, way well this a lie i want to get into
what you mean by that when you just say the lie the lie is this that israel is a correct response
to thousands of years of jewish persecution right and that it's only defending itself because it's under siege by all these people who hate Jews fundamentally, because it's just like this ancient hatred of Jews.
And that actually, you know, Israel is not oppressing the Palestinians.
It's actually the Palestinians that are irrational,
that are fanatics, that can't listen to reason,
and that all, you know,
everyone gets to have a state.
Why can't we Jews have a state?
You know, these are the things they're being told.
And they're lies.
They're 100% lies.
I think the latter is a lie, but not necessarily the former. I mean, if you look at European
history for the last 2,000 years, Jews were persecuted all throughout Europe.
And so it provides this viable solution for just to create the wrong state.
Why I accuse the so-called dissident right of being Zionism, because you can cede all of the fundamental precepts of Zionism. You concede that there's an ancient struggle to just persecute the Jews just because they're Jews and there's this ancient hatred and this is a Jewish question that needs to be solved. I mean, you, you, you, you would agree with it. There is an ancient, there is an ancient, there's an ancient fight between Christians and Jews. Of course, it stems from 2,000 years ago. I mean, they're not wrong about that it's that fight
we are on the other side can i ask you a question what was that i i you can i ask you something
yeah why didn't that fight play out in Islamic lands?
Why only Europe?
Because Islam isn't as heavily involved in it. Jews specifically lived in Europe.
That's not true. I would be willing to bet the majority of them.
We're talking about Ashkenazis, not Shafarctic Jews.
Why only Ashkenazis, not Shafarctic Jews. Why only Ashkenazis?
I'm not sure. Is this about Jews or is it only about Ashkenazi Jews now so we can clarify?
Well, specifically the ones in power Ashkenazi Jews, right? That's the power structure.
But why does it matter that they're ashkenazi rather than just
jews in general if it's a two thousand year conflict because i think the ashkenazi because because
i think their primary gripe is with christians that's where their religion even stems from
in the first place okay but and under islamic rule christians and jew Jews used to team up against the Muslims.
So how do you explain that?
They must have had some sort of interest.
I mean, Christians and Jews team up today against Muslims.
If there's this fundamental ancient enmity between them that is just insurmountable and insurpassable, why is it?
I didn't say it's insurmountable.
Well, technically it would be insurmountable if both sides were acting in good conscience by the religion.
But it is surmountable through money and power, right?
Hold on. Why, why are you saying that this is an aim? So you don't think this is a fundamental
conflict? Well, I do think it's a fundamental conflict. So what's the source of the cause? I don't think it's insurmountable. I think that it could be, I think it's a fundamental cause i don't think it's insurmountable i think that it could be i think it could be resolved through money and power and uh brainwashing you can solve it through brainwashing to be clear yeah that's what's happened right now So you need to brainwash people to fix the problem of the conflict you're talking about?
Well, if there's this deep ideological conflict, then you have to get the people that completely disagree with them from a theological basis, then yeah, you have to brainwash them to some capacity, to a large capacity.
Okay, hold on.
We're just kind of going in crazy directions.
To get this point better, you're saying that you can see the Zionist point
that the world has it out for the Jews to get the Jews, right?
That's your view.
Well, I think the world has it out for the Jews for the right reasons.
But by the world, that is for no reason.
Yeah, but by the world, you just mean Europe, right?
The Christian world, right, the Western world.
But is Europe the only place where Christianity existed?
I'm talking about the Christian.
No, it's not the only place where Christianity existed.
So West Christianity has this problem this
theological problem with jews historically i agree but would you concede something else for me
do you think that the so the christian world that you're talking about also had another problem which is Christianity itself
and what is Christianity?
How do you mean?
For example, the fact that there's a hundred years war
fought over Protestantism versus Catholicism.
And for example, the extermination of the Cathars in France, that crusade, the Ab-Afric, I don't know how to say it.
You know what I'm talking about?
Not particularly. I'm not very well read.
It was really big.
But let's just focus on the Protestant Reformation.
Do you think that the Protestant Reformation is somehow just something you can skip over in European history?
No, but why is it relevant?
What do you think the cause of that was?
Ideological difference.
Okay. Do you think it led to a lot of conflict?
Yeah.
So why are you making it seem like Jews are to blame?
When there's this problem Europe it has with religion, even its own sects of Christianity
it has, clearly there's going to be religious.
Muslims were not even allowed in Europe.
People forget that.
They say, oh, Jews were expelled from all these countries in Europe.
Wait a second.
How is that surprising when they didn't even tolerate Muslims?
There was no religious tolerance in Europe.
They killed each other and fought each other over
Protestantism, over the Cathars.
They killed each other over these things.
And they tolerated Jews sometimes.
Why would they have more consistent about tolerating Jews when they did not tolerate any Muslims in Europe? I'm trying to say this isn't, it's not because Jews were bad guys or they were evil and the world had it out for them. It's that Europe had a problem with religious tolerance in general.
That's why in Muslim lands, you didn't see that same pattern of, oh, there's a Jewish question and there's problems with Jews.
Because in Muslim lands, I'm not saying Islam's better than Christianity, but it's a matter of historical record.
Muslims had a better sense of religious tolerance than Christian Europeans did.
There was more of it, and there was more of an ability
to be able to tolerate
okay these people disagree with me religiously
but I don't have to chop their head off
over it was just more religious diversity
in the first place
okay sure
but religious diversity in Europe was always war it was always something that had to be fought over.
So why make it seem like this is a problem of Jews rather than European civilization itself?
Why not just be honest about the fact that there was something about European civilization, which made this to be a source of conflict? And you know why what I'm saying is not crazy? Because all of the thinkers, the main thinkers the world to this day is indebted to from europe starting from
the italian renaissance all of them conceded this point all of them were responding to this fact
all of the thinkers of the renaissance the Enlightenment were concerned with the fact of the question of religion, of truth and reality, and the ability to, you know,
maintain an independence and freedom of conscience.
Were they all Jews? Was Emmanuel Kant a Jew in your view?
Was Francis Bacon a Jew? Was Thomas Hobbs a Jew? Were these all Jews in your eyes?
This was a process within Europe itself of it having to come to terms with secularism.
Secularism. You know what that word means? You don't like secularism, I imagine.
But the Jews did not invent secularism.
Secularism was also not formed in response to Judaism.
Secularism was adopted in response to the amount of carnage and blood and chaos that was spilled
because of the conflict
between the Catholics and the Protestants.
And secularism was the product of that.
All European atheism,
all the things you don't like about the Enlightenment, liberalism, humanism, they all arose from that context.
Did Jews try to get a piece of that and say, hey, you know, we were so expelled from society before and this new enlightenment liberalism is now giving us an opportunity to, you know, be part of society and not be excluded. And of course, some of them were very enthusiastic about it. But you know what you Groyper's always ignore?
A lot of them were also very, very angry and upset about it.
You know, in our community, or not really in, just surrounding our community, an example of one of the Jews who hates the Enlightenment and who hates all this assimilation stuff and thinks it's the worst disaster ever, Mar. Mar is a Hasidic Jew that we know, and there are so many like him who share that outlook.
So just like Christians are divided over this, so are Jews.
Why this pathological hatred of Jews? Where does it come from?
Okay, well, there's a lot to unpack there.
You're saying that the Protestants had their gripes with the Catholics, and there
was a lot of ethnic warfare, a lot of religious warfare between.
I'm saying, stop coping.
Stop looking for a scapegoat.
Something was wrong with Europe that led it down the path it went. You can't just say, oh, Jews were the problem. Something was wrong with Europe. And you have to be responsible for it. Not be responsible for it. A it. Think about it because there's thinkers who
came before you that thought about it. The thinkers that you ignore, I mean, you just turn on
your TV, you watch Nick Fuentes or something, open and read a book, read these actual white, pure Aryan European thinkers of the
Enlightenment, and read what they said about these things.
Because they did talk about it.
They did talk about this problem of religious dogmatism and, you know, skepticism, is this the truth? What is the truth? They inquired upon these things. They tried to think through them, culminating in Hegel, right?
Have you ever read any of them?
Have you read Kant?
Emmanuel Kant?
No, I haven't read Kant.
How can you make any fundamental claims about the nature of European civilization and make all these huge and bold
claims about the Jews and the Christians
when you haven't even read the basics
of European civilization
as it exists today, form today.
Where are you getting your information?
People are you getting this education? People have read that. Are you just listening to
what Nick Fenta says? And then just
I do listen to what Nick Fuentes says, yes.
But why not read books, too?
Well, I have been reading books.
Just I need to get into it more.
Right now, I'm reading a Spanish Civil War book. I need to get into philosophy.
Why not think through on an
independent basis and an independent
level? Think through what you're actually saying you're
saying the hegemony is jewish based on what you're saying racial self-interest there's so
based on the character of it based on the character based on what it purports how on its influence on society sure
but how let's make that more concrete how well to be zionism and judeate and jews are inextricable from one
another even if that was true.
So we're kind of just going in circles now.
No, no, no.
We're going in circles because even if they were interrelated,
clearly they're not the same thing because Judaism predates Zionism.
So if the hedge, how is the hegemony
characteristically Jewish?
How
is it characteristically Jewish?
Because
it provides
for the Jewish self-interest.
When you have
this pluralistic, multi-ethnic western system it provides a safety for jews you can even see jews right about this i know it's
kind of a trite talking point does it provide it's just i i i you know just out of curiosity does that provide safety for hindus as well brahmins indians
probably oh interesting what about like buddhists and asians sure provide safety for every
non-white minority group.
Okay. Let me ask you another question. What about Catholics in a Protestant majority country? Does it provide safety for them too?
Pluralism? Yeah.
Well, you'd have to talk about it on a net scale.
I don't think it would.
On some level, some sort of religious tolerance.
Religious pluralism was in the founding of this country, and without it, the Catholics would have all been killed.
No, I do think religious pluralism brings some sort of safety
for Catholics and Protestants
in a, yeah, right. So if there's
Catholics living in a majority, Protestant nation,
and we agree that Catholics and Protestants
cannot agree about who is the true
Christian, right?
Sure.
So how are you going to frame this as a conflict
between Christians and Jews
when the Christians don't even have their own act together?
Think about that.
What do you mean the Christians don't have their own act?
If you say, I want this country to be a Christian
I think the Protestants don't have their act together.
It's, we're talking about Catholic. But when you
and your leaders say America must be
a Christian country,
sure. It's not that. We mean Catholic.
Okay, so you mean Catholic.
So how are you going to impose
see, you Catholics, in the eyes of to impose see you Catholics
in the eyes of wasps
you Catholics are the same as Jews
they don't see you as any different
I don't know if they say
you are the same as you are the same
as a racial foreigner and an alien
presence in the eyes of wasps.
You're the same as much as whites.
Are you talking about the evangelical types or are you talking about the good faith?
I am talking about the Jackson type of wasps.
They see you Catholics as no different than Jews.
Yeah, we tolerate you because we have pluralism and that's it.
Otherwise, we wouldn't because we don't like the popery.
That's their view.
They don't see you as different.
I don't know how to break this to you. You Catholics in the American context are seen as spicy and exotic. You're not, you're not like considered to be, you know, the pure Aryan race. This is why it's so bizarre to me. And the majority
of the Catholic presence in this country is from Mexico. So what are we even talking about?
And before that southern Italy and or southern Europe, Italy and then...
And they were considered brown. They were all considered non-white.
Right. So it comes from that. It comes from that in the Mexicans. I understand.
Right. So what I'm trying to say... I don't think it's on the level of Jews. I think that's just wrong.
Why not?
Why not? I mean, how do I even justify this?
The KKK literally used to group Catholics and Jews together.
If the KKK had the chance
to kill a Catholic or a Jew, they're killing the
Jew. I don't think they
distinguish them. That's the true.
Really? You're going to die on that
hill, you're going to die on that hill. If you gave them a choice
between a Catholic and a Jew, they would kill the Jew.
They'd kill the Jew over the pot guy.
You don't understand. The KKK preceded the huge waves of German immigration.
Like the German-American Bund, yeah, they would rather kill a Jew.
But the KKK were this nativist WASp group that hated all the new immigrants in general.
Well, they also hated black slaves.
And they considered the Catholics to be the number one source of conspiratorial intrigue from Rome.
They saw the Rome as an octopus trying to conquer the world. conspiratorial intrigue from Rome.
They saw the Rome as an octopus trying to conquer the world and infiltrate and subvert America.
That was their view.
That's their similarity that you're drawing.
Sure, maybe they believe that.
It doesn't matter.
They're wrong.
I mean, I don't understand.
Like, is your argument that because
religious people otherwise other religion religious groups that we can't do the same for jews the
character of jews who is we who is we who is we catholics we as in catholics people Goypers and hold our position.
You are not the only religious, you're not the
only or the original religious group
in America. I understand. I understand.
But now that we have a pluralistic,
multi-ethnic, multilingual society,
we can come together Catholics,
Protestants,
Orthodox Christians, maybe even Muslims,
and decide that...
Everyone agree that they don't like Jews?
Well, because of current...
Yeah, because the current power structure, the hegemony,
as you like... I understand. So it's going to be like...
It's characteristically Zionists. Yeah, it's going to be like Synais. Yeah. It's going to
be like Soleiman and Sneco
and Nick Fland. I get what it already
is. It already is. We're going to
bring this people from Britain and
these Pakistanis from Britain.
I mean, you could be one of them too. You could be
the Lebanese guy, but you don't want to.
You're right.
I don't want to.
Because here's the issue, all right?
For a time, that will be fine.
You'll all be united and whatever.
You just, oh, the Jews are the only enemy.
Let's be united against the Jews.
But even before you defeat so-called defeat the jews like what you want you don't have uh um you don't have a viable
or strong foundation for unity
just agreeing that you don't like Jews is not enough
and you'll see that going down the line and I've seen it and I've witnessed it with my own two eyes
two eyes seeing how much cracks and divisions
happen with that America First movement all the time.
Because just hating, forget America First Movement, all of the alt-right splintered in a million pieces,
and they all agreed they didn't like Jews, and they splintered in a million pieces still.
Because it's not enough to have a scapegoat and say, this is our common enemy.
We're going to fight against them and be unified.
No, no, no. Why are they your common enemy?
For example, a Muslim may say,
well, I just don't like what Israel is doing, right? A Protestant may say, uh, maybe I don't like
Jews, but I don't like them for the same reasons I don't like Catholics. I mean, how do you
establish a qualitative unity based on a shared hatred for the same group
when the reasons for that hatred are so different and they're so distinct?
It's a tenuous and weak unity.
It's a false unity and it will shatter
and break in a million pieces
at the first sign of
adversity. And that's the problem.
Well, sure.
If it's equally
distributed, yeah, but if there's a majority group
within that, I don't think it will. And even if it does, if there's a majority group within that, I don't think it will.
And even if it does, if there's a majority group within
that, it wouldn't even matter, right? Because it looks like
10% Muslims. Catholics
can only be the majority
in this country through
Mexicans. That's it.
So you want a white Catholic movement.
White Catholics are a small minority in this country.
You are not going to bring the wasps, the brown people, the black people all to heal and conquer all of them.
You're not going to do it, I promise.
And still have this be a unified America. You're talking about balkanization. And what you're talking about is incompatible with the purport of America. Logistics like that don't work with American Christians, right?
Because what you have with American Christians is a latent
force. You have non-practicing Christians who are only
Christian in name. And if you're going to
revitalize them, we're completely
capable of revitalizing these so-called
protestants into into a catholic into a catholic movement until they become disillusioned with it
for the same reason their fathers why would they they become dissolution that's a separate that's
kind of because because protestantism is not just confessional it's a sociological and historical
form of ancestry and protestant culture the Protestant religion goes far deeper than the surface level, oh, I'm just religious, I'm not religious. Just like Catholicism is a historically constituted religious group
meaning someone can be like an
atheist but if they come from a Catholic
background there's going to be
clear sociological
and cultural patterns
that they align with
just because of the Catholic background.
So the same is true for Protestants.
There is a Protestant aspect of America
that cannot be ignored.
You can't just skip over it and be like,
can't you just incorporate that
into the Catholic movement?
I don't understand why you can't do that.
If the Pope couldn't do it for 500 years in Europe,
I don't know how you're going to do it in America
without a Pope on yourself.
Well, here's the thing, because the Protestants aren't,
they are mobilized.
Protestants are a latent force. So if you mobilize them through this Catholic movement, then I think it's completely acceptable to... I need to break the news to you, because you're really just in denial about this. You're a sectarian. You're a sectarian.
Any other religious fanatic would be saying
the same thing you are, and they think they're
right, and you're a sectarian.
My parents come from a country called Lebanon.
I know what sectarianism is,
and all it leads to is
a bunch of different groups killing each other and destroying their
nation and dividing it. What you are saying, your inability to recognize other religions that are
contrary to your own beliefs, invalidates the purport of the United States of America as a unified
nation. At best, what you're talking about would lead to a scenario of balconizing the country into
a bunch of different
enclaves.
Nothing would unify this country.
Nothing could unify this country.
I don't know.
Honestly, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not not, I don't think that we're just going to have this crazy Catholic thing and then take over the world.
But I don't, I'm not completely blackpilled, is what I'm saying.
I don't think that it's completely impossible to incorporate Protestants into a Catholic movement.
But, okay,
you may not find that
unrealistic.
But the Protestants
disagree with you.
And that's the issue.
Most of the Protestants aren't even Protestants.
They're not consciously Protestant.
But trust me when I say that unconscious is there, and it's a whole hot to impact.
The Anglo spirit or whatever, the Germanic spirit.
I understand what you're trying to say.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
So,
so look, here's my view.
You know, my view is that if we believe
in a freeing America
and restoring American sovereignty
from the hegemony, which I think we both agreed is not
characteristically Jewish, if we are interested in that, we need to acknowledge that America
is a nation with multiple different religions and multiple different ethnicities and races.
And that ethno-nationalism and Catholic nationalism or Protestant national, wherever you want to call it, is incompatible with the purport of this country as a unified nation, of one people, one country.
So what is so wrong with that?
What is wrong with...
What is wrong with...
What is wrong with a vision of one American people, one American nation, and one American country?
What is so wrong with that?
What is so wrong with the view that we must become one people?
And, and... You mean like a pluralist people? A pluralist civic nationalist people? Not just pluralist,
but to form into one distinct people in a way that fundamentally transcends any of the racial or historical or sociological peoples that were formed in the old world.
And by sociological, you mean religious? No. peoples that were formed in the old world.
And by sociological, you mean religious?
No.
Not necessarily.
So, so you're saying, so then how does that tie into religion?
Because I'm saying that we need one majority religion and then I guess you're,
I thought you were trying to tell me that you would accept some sort of pluralistic American creedal civic nationalism, but I don't understand what you're trying to say now.
I'm talking about racially.
Right.
No, I agree with you somewhat.
I mean, I don't think it's possible to have like a white nation.
I think America is a majority Christian country.
But I think the inability to agree on what that Christianity is
makes it impossible for a theocracy to ever exist here. Because it's not just Protestants.
This is something you might be overlooking. The Protestants are not unified, as I'm sure you know.
How many Protestant sects are in America? There's the Mormons, there's the Baptist, there's the Episcopals, there's a, you name it. And they all disagree.
They're unified in some way they don't
really beef with each other i disagree
how are Mormons unified with
episodes well Mormons I wouldn't really call them
Protestants wouldn't call them Protestant maybe I will
they what are they
um I don't I don't know, to be honest.
They're just a weird, just a weird branch.
That's what they say about Catholicism.
Yeah, so they view Mormons in a similar way that they view Catholics.
See, you're fixated on the question. What should the majority religion be in this country?
Rather than ask yourself the question, according to my understanding of religion, ask yourself this question.
According to my understanding of religion and the basis
of religious belief and religious conviction and the fundamentals of what compels me to identify
with this religion and what it teaches me, how should i respond to the historical situation being thrown before me
right here and right now what does the bible tell you what wisdom have you gotten from your own
religion about how to respond to the current situation
in America?
We keep fighting, I guess.
I don't really have a lot of response to that.
Because I don't think the Bible tells you
that the world would be a paradise, if not for the Jews.
I don't think that's what the message of Christianity is.
Well, the message of Christianity is that the world sucks, right?
But that we have to work to try and make it better.
Okay.
I know it's kind of pretty...
Sure.
That may be the case. But make that better. Okay. I know it's kind of sure. I,
that may be the case.
But make that concrete in America.
How will you make America better?
By electing Catholics into power,
putting Catholics in positions of influence.
So all they have to do is,
all they have to do is call themselves Catholic. It doesn't matter what they do or what they repose. Well, they have to do is, all they have to do is call themselves Catholic.
It doesn't matter what they do or what they propose. Well, they have to be Catholic.
They have to be Catholic.
But it doesn't matter what their actual goal is,
because Joe Biden's a Catholic.
I don't know if you knew that.
Well,
they have to implement Catholic policies, obviously, right?
What is a Catholic policy? What is a Catholic policy?
Total ban on abortion.
Okay, what else?
Making sodomy illegal, blasphemy laws.
Why don't we just talk about abortion
I like that one
abortion
what do you think compels people
to get abortions
in this country
selfishness
okay
apathy
why would anyone
want to do that though
why would anyone want to do that, though? Why would anyone want to get an abortion?
Because it's an inconvenience for them to have the baby.
Why?
Either financially or in terms of their time, women want to pursue careers.
Okay, so there's two things. Why do they want to pursue careers, though?
Because they're educated to believe that it's a good thing. They want to.
What do you mean why? Like, you want me to give you like a deeper answer why is having a child incompatible with their careers
it's not necessarily incompatible but it takes time away they want to dedicate all their time well kind of
if they want to dedicate all their time well kind of if they want to dedicate
all their time to their career which
some of them do
they want to get the abortion because if they
take the if they keep the trial they can't do that
and why not
and why can't they do that?
Yeah.
Because it takes up their time.
Yeah.
So you're saying that would make them less likely to be able to be successful in their careers, right?
Yes.
Yeah.
I agree.
That's the current reality.
But two things.
Has it ever occurred to you that there's a reason why there's so much financial trouble
plaguing the people of this country that they can't even have kids anymore?
Has it ever occurred to you
that there's a reason
why women
can't simultaneously be mothers
and pursue their dreams in their careers
at the same time?
Because there's no incentive for these companies to actually recognize the nature of women, the fact that they have children, and give them the maternity leave that they need.
Do these things matter to you? Are they material to you? that they need.
Do these things matter to you?
Are they material to you?
Or is it just the sin that's material to you?
Are the causes of the sin material to you, or is it just the sin? To me, I don't think they should be working at all.
I mean, you know this.
How will they eat uh because their husband will
provide that's the ideal with what job that will pay for two people in one house right i think
the economic system's broken as well we agree on that so why don't you begin with that? Why do you begin
only with the sin and not the cause?
Doesn't that make you a Pharisee and a hypocrite?
How do you mean?
If you're only focusing on the
superficial sin while simultaneously
doing little or nothing...
It's superficial, it's murder, right?
These are innocent lives that are being lost.
But if you are turning a blind eye and neglecting the root cause of that, doesn't make you a
blind eye to it?
I don't turn a blind eye.
I think they're both problems.
But you only focus
on one and not the other.
Well, one is more
I don't only focus on one and not the other.
I have more focus on one of them because
it's like the egregious act itself.
Why do you have more focus on that? Are you forgiving
them? Wasn't Jesus preaching forgiveness?
Well, of course I forgive. I forgive everyone for anything that anyone's done. But what does it mean
concretely to forgive them? Think about that. To really forgive them means to understand why they have been put in that situation by an insurmountable and
inescapable debt imposed upon them both literally and figuratively by the need to make a living
of course i understand this situation.
But why don't you focus on that?
Why don't you understand that as what's fundamental?
Why can't you forgive their sin and go for the root cause of the sin?
Why don't you battle the serpent in his cave?
Why do you focus only on the symptoms?
Why don't you actually step on that snake like the Virgin Mary?
Well, I think the actual snake is the apathy.
The people don't care anymore.
No, I think the snake is your apathy.
Young men who are the ones who have a responsibility to challenge the real elites
and the hegemony, to stand
up for your people, to stand up for your
sisters, to stand up for your mothers,
to stand up for the innocent,
good people of this country,
and wrestle and fight
with the actual ruling class. Ressel and fight with the actual ruling class, wrestle and fight for the actual justice that is necessary to bring dignity to the people of this country so that sin will not be the norm, so that the aroma of sin will be eliminated so that the actual root cause and source of these sins
you don't like aren't so normalized why have you neglected your responsibility to do that do you think
it's brave to just focus on talking about Jews,
Jews? Well, okay, now we're kind of diverting to that. But here's what I want to tell you, right? The
Bible tells us over and over again, since we're appealing to it, that the world is a fallen and broken
place, right? And so if you're highlighting this
misfortune in the world where the economic system is broken and women are incentivized to do
this horrible evil, then we are focusing on the fact that the world is evil. Of course it is,
right? That is abundantly clear in the Bible. Well, hold on. Let me just, let me just
finish this. The point
is that despite the world
being awful in a terrible place, which
incentivizes evil over good,
the choice still has to be made. There cannot
be an apathy to just commit the evil
because it's convenient. you have to do what's
inconvenient but the hard thing to do what society does not incentivize what does not grant you the
world but what will grant you a place in heaven that's the essence of christianity you have missed
the entire point, my friend.
The world may be evil, but you are responsible for that evil.
You bear responsibility for it.
You are culpable of it.
And by neglecting that culpability, by ignoring precisely how you're responsible for it you're being a hypocrite you're crucifying people on the cross of the sins they commit without recognizing your
own culpability and how are you culpable you're culpable by the culpability. And how are you culpable? You're culpable by the culpability you have in the system,
the factory of sin, the machine that reproduces sin. I agree that I am culpable. Until you can speak up about that, until you can stand up for the weak and stand up for the vulnerable and stand up for the people who don't have their own voice, you are culpable.
And by attacking them and looking down at them and their sins, you are being a...
We all recognize that.
No, we all recognize that we're all culpable.
It's the essence of Christianity.
But you think that culpability can be addressed how?
How can you take responsibility for it?
Repenting, go into confession.
So just putting your hands together and praying?
Is that really the message that Jesus Christ came to this earth to give humanity that just saying some words is all you need to do?
What about how you actually, what about how you actually participate in this life and in this world?
What about what you actually do?
What about the things you actually do? Not just the things you say, not just the words you confess. What about your actions? What about the way in which you respond to the reality that we all bear culpability in forming and creating.
Sure.
How do you respond to the fundamental reality of the reign of the serpent?
How are you responding to that?
Because it sounds like you're just responding to it by saying people aren't praying hard enough or reciting the right words. People are committing evil. People don't care about committing evil. People care about what's doing what's convenient for them. I agree. I agree. Right. But would you also agree that they're committing evil while simultaneously calling themselves
Catholics and Christians and saying that they're doing it in the service of the Lord?
I bet you're...
I'm sure a lot of people are.
What about these evangelicals on TV?
Do you think they're duping their audiences?
A lot of them probably are.
Let me ask you a question.
Is racial hatred Christian?
I don't think any hatred is Christian.
Do you think it's Christian
to say that some groups are less
human than others?
No, I would not say that.
Do you think that your movement
does that or no?
Our movement? Well, are you
talking about like Nick Fuentes
or Groyper's in general
Yeah in general whatever
I mean some Groypers probably do yeah
Do you believe that
Africans cannot produce civilizations
I don't believe they can produce advanced civilization on their own. No.
Great, great. What do you think it is that separates us as human beings from animals?
Our souls.
Okay. What is the source of our ability to produce advanced civilizations?
Intelligence.
What is that?
Intelligence. I don't know. Cognitive biology.
Is that have anything to do with the soul or no?
I don't think biology has to do with the soul.
It's a very materialist perspective.
You don't think intelligence is related to the soul?
That's a big one to unpack.
Yeah.
Do you think that Catholic theology agrees with you on that?
That the soul is unrelated to the mind and intelligence?
I didn't say it's unrelated. I'm saying that the soul is something beyond the mind and intelligence. It's given by God.
I agree, but isn't our capacity to produce advanced civilizations also given by God?
Or are you a ruthless vulgar Darwinian materialist for everything except this claim that what is what exactly does our soul allow us to
well here's here's a problem with that right you go down a dangerous path because you're positing that
inequality is some sort of evil and that if we are created beings by a just and loving god that we
must all be equal in
some way. And that just ignores
the fact that inequality is abundant
throughout human life. Even if there is
racial inequality between...
Yeah, we agree. Right. You still have
disabled people, even if black people were 100
ideas. It weren't as full standard deviation below white people.
But what does the soul give humans the ability to do?
What's the significance?
It makes us like God.
It makes us in the image of God.
I mean, I don't know how I can really explain. I probably have to talk to a theologian on that. Like, a human has a soul. Animal doesn't have a soul. Okay, what distinguishes a human being? How do we know they have a soul?
We can reason, right?
That's the...
Interesting.
So...
We have the ability to reason.
So the ability to reason comes from the fact that we have a soul.
It comes from the fact that we were created to be in God's image.
So that is the thing that makes us different from animals, correct?
Yes.
And intelligence, does that have anything to do with being able to reason?
Yeah. Intelligence. Does that have anything to do with being able to reason? Hello? Hello? Hello? Hello?
Did I cut out?
Yeah.
All right.
Did I cut out when I was speaking or was it when you were speaking? I asked the question and then you cut out.
Can you just
ask it again?
Does intelligence
have anything
to do with the
ability to reason?
Yeah,
it does.
Okay.
So it's our
soul that is
the reason we have
intelligence,
correct?
Um, Not necessarily. God is the reason that we have a soul, but God is also the reason we are able to reason.
I don't think the only reason.
The soul gives man the ability to reason.
Correct?
I said God gave man the ability to reason.
So what does the soul give us?
What is the soul?
What is the character of our soul?
What does that mean?
I'm not sure, honestly.
You'd have to talk to a theologian on that.
It's not me trying to dodge.
I generally don't think I could.
Yeah, I think what they'll tell you is that a soul, for example, allows us to have a will.
Is that fair?
Yes. Yeah, sure.
Okay.
And what is a will?
The ability to make choices, correct?
Right, free will, yeah.
And the ability to make choices is dependent upon what?
The ability to recognize differences, correct? Different outcomes and different
possibilities. It's dependent on that as one of the aspects, yes. But primarily, that's how you
would summarize it, right? Like, we can make choices because we can recognize distinctions
within reality and within
the possibilities of what we ourselves
can do, correct? Well, it's a prerequisite to
making choices, but we also need volition, right?
I mean, the determinists would argue
that you have the illusion of making
choice. Without distinction, there's no volition
in question because there's no distinction.
There's no possible difference.
Well, you can have distinction, but you can be a determinist and also believe in distinction.
That's fine.
But you agree that when we're talking about choice, we're talking about the ability to recognize differences in reality, correct?
Sure, yeah, there are two possible outcomes and you choose one through your own will.
But the will is something extreme.
Would you say that would be the same as being able to render reality intelligible?
What is the nature of render the intelligibles?
What does it mean for something to be intelligible? What does that mean?
You can understand it. Okay. But what does it mean for things to have intelligibility?
Like, if I understand this, what does that mean mean I understand this in contrast to that correct
I guess you could morally distinguish the two things so that is the root word of
intelligence by the way that's what intelligence means that you have the ability to make differences intelligible
you can make more things intelligible that's what intelligence means you are saying that you think
africans have less of a soul than Europeans.
When you say they're less intelligent, that's what you're saying.
There's no unbiased, pure biological notion of intelligence, which is just,
oh, it's just like a computer where you're upgrading the
G-Force RTX 4090.
That's not what intelligence is.
Intelligence is not a computer.
You're not just saying some innocuous, oh, they're just less intelligence, you know, they can't do as much.
You are saying at the fundamental level of what makes them human, they are lesser than Europeans.
That's what you're saying.
Why don't you just own up to what you're saying and admit that?
No, I don't think it's like that because if you say that, then you have to say that Down syndrome people do not have the same souls as normal people.
And I disagree with that.
But even a Catholic would be forced to admit that Down syndrome, people, is a tragedy that
happens within families and within communities
but there cannot be a
people there couldn't be an entire shepherd
the body of Christ
cannot be made up
primarily
a church cannot be primarily made up
of people with Down syndrome.
I mean, I don't know what that would look.
I mean, that's a ridiculous question.
People with Down syndrome could not constitute a people.
They couldn't constitute a people.
You would agree with that, right?
They're exceptions within a group of people.
Sure, sure, right. They don't meet the normative standard. Africans, different groups in Africa, that is different peoples. They are a form, a distinct form of humanity. They're not an exception within a group, like
tragic disability or aberration or something. That is a unique form of the existence of humanity,
of creation. And you are saying
that at the fundamental level of what
makes them human, they are lesser, and that's
your view.
Well, I don't think so. I think you're
making some sort of compassion there.
So do you think they have the same
ability to reason
as Europeans?
No.
Okay, but you defined the soul
in terms of
what it can do is an ability to reason.
So they...
Are we talking about values of souls?
That's what we're talking about, correct?
No, we are talking about the nature of the soul.
Sure, but you are giving some sort of evaluation to the souls, right?
You're talking about how the black, how you think that we believe black soul is less.
If we understand the soul in terms of an ability to reason,
logically, it makes sense that variations in your inherent fundamental ability to reason,
especially as a people, not just as different individuals but as a whole people as a distinct form of the existence of humanity that you are talking about
some souls are lesser and some souls are more uh no no that's not because to me a soul
is not less is lesser if it is in less if it is of less value to god right and all souls are
equal value to god so souls cannot be lesser or a better than...
But how do you know if people have a soul? For example, what preempts you from just saying they're not even human and they're not even, they're not even the audience for Christ's message. What preempts you from saying that?
That's interesting, actually.
I don't know.
Again, I don't know what the distinction would lie.
Where the distinction would lie for that.
Why can't you just admit that the notion of racial superiority or inferiority for that matter is inherently antithetical to the Christian outlook? That Christ's message was for all of humanity, which knew no distinction between Greek nor Jew,
which didn't say any group was better than anyone else,
and that everyone is God's children, and no one is more human than the other,
and nobody is more able to build advanced civilizations than the other, or these other bizarre,
vulgar, materialist categories you're giving us. See, Keith Woods isn't even really a Christian,
I don't think. So he would admit I don't think we can get valuations to souls.
But why can't you admit it?
I don't think we can get valuations to souls based on how good they are able to reason.
I don't.
It's not simply a valuation of the soul.
It's the presence of the soul.
Do they have a soul? Or to what extent do they have the soul? Because you are saying the thing that makes them human, they're lesser on that account. That's what you're saying. And you're not getting canceled. This is kick. It's free speech. But why don't you have the courage to just admit there's this fundamental contradiction in your worldview? Well, I think some people
maybe maybe have fuller souls. I don't know what the right semantic word distinction would be. So Europeans have fuller souls. Probably. I don't know what the right semantic word distinction would be. So Europeans have fuller souls?
Probably, I don't know.
I mean, they're more developed for sure.
I mean, they have more...
Okay, so do you think this is something Jesus Christ would say that, oh yeah, the people who have lighter skin have fuller souls?
Does it sound very
Christlike to say or just what
I don't think he'd I don't know if he'd say it
he never really talked about biological differences
between people wasn't really
a topic of his but I mean
would he agree with it I don't know probably
because it's true.
He wouldn't lie.
You think Jesus Christ believe that Europeans have fuller souls than Africans?
Or he would agree with that?
I don't know the semantic word choice that he would choose, but I don't think he would just disagree with biological...
If Europeans have fuller souls than Africans, in Jesus' time, he was living in what's called Palestine today, right?
To his north were the Romans. To their north were the barbarian gulls and germanics who were even more european than the romans jesus was a contemporary of egyptians he was a contemporary of Egyptians, he was a contemporary of the various Semites, of Phoenicians, of whatever you want to call it, because of the place he lived.
Those differences you're talking about should have been observable to him.
Why didn't the Bible talk about this hierarchy of races and people?
Because it's not important.
Hierarchies are intrinsically true.
They don't need to be talked about.
It's important in the Bible.
Hierarchies between different races and groups because when Jesus did
talk about it he says I know no distinction
between Greek nor Jew
and this is what he said.
But there is actually a distinction
between Greeks and Jews. But why didn't he say Europeans are
destined to have fuller souls and be
superior to everyone? But here's the thing about so true
and it's so correct and it's the fundamental bedrock and foundation for a political system and
everything shouldn't it have been able to account for that and at least give us a hint that this would
be the case?
But exactly in that verse lies the problem, right? In that verse it says, there is no Greek nor
Jew. And that is, that is factually, biologically not true, right? There is, there are Greeks and
there are Jews. They are biologically distinct. But the reason, the importance of that verse is that those differences do not matter to God.
The importance of that verse is that.
Okay, okay.
So you're saying before God, there's no Greek, no true, nor man, nor woman.
You're saying that this racial
hierarchy doesn't matter to God
right? No
so why does it matter to you?
Because it has
real world impacts
so you don't think God cares about the real world
and it's in course he does of course he does but he says over and over again so you don't think God cares about the real world?
Of course he does.
Of course he does, but he says over and over again that the real world is nothing compared to the kingdom of heaven. That your whole political outlook and all these views you have are on behalf of what God wants and what God thinks.
So if it doesn't matter to God, why does it matter to you?
I'm not, I'm not saying that, I'm not saying that immigration is something that matters to God. That's separate.
You don't think it matters to God? Then why do you care about it?
Because these things affect the world. Well, think it matters to God, then why do you care about it?
Because these things affect the world.
Well, here's the thing.
To say specifically in immigration in of itself, people moving to a different
country, people of a different race moving to a different country.
I don't even have anything against that, for say. You're the only hell I'm willing to
die on here. It actually changes
the demographic composition of the nation,
it changes the character of the nation, which
would matter to God, because it would make the
country more inhospitable.
Okay, so immigration
does matter to God.
Not directly
in of itself. Okay, but on some
level it matters. The effects of it do, yes.
Okay. And racial supremacy matters to God?
I don't believe in racial supremacy.
Or racial hierarchies matter to God?
No, I don't think so.
So why do they matter to you?
Why do you acknowledge them?
If God... See, if they mattered, why does the Bible...
Because it impacts on the world which matter to God.
So it doesn't matter to God or it does matter to God?
I mean, we're going in circles here. Then those differences in of themselves do not matter to God, but they have impacts on the world, which probably do matter to God.
So why didn't the Bible warn us about them?
Why didn't the Bible say, like, for example, listen, my flock, be prepared.
Doesn't the Bible talk about company? Doesn't the Bible? for example, listen, my flock, be prepared. The...
Doesn't the Bible talk about company?
Doesn't the Bible talk about keeping bad company?
And that's a little bit of a stretch to say that some races are superior.
I mean, here's the thing, though.
We're talking about society at large, right?
And if you're importing people that bring a bad character to the nation, then it creates bad company for the entire nation.
Let's not talk about immigration for second. Because, you know, the issue isn't just immigration. The issue is when Nick Fuentes told me personally that he believes that europeans should go to africa
and uh and and um subjugate all the africans and impose their will upon them because the
europeans are inherently better it would be better for them. It would give them better lives.
So.
Which I think matters to God.
That's why we have to have Catholic hospitals.
You are more entitled.
You are more entitled to recite the message of God than they are because you're better.
You're more entitled to bring God's will on earth than's not about providing them. You know more than Jesus himself.
You are more in, yeah, you're, because you're being charitable because you're being charitable
because these Africans according to you cannot digest God's message as well as Europeans can. So, so it's not about
it's not about, it's not about, it's, it's, it's simply about the fact they cannot build advanced
civilizations. It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a hurdle. Where do you think, it's something
that they... Okay.
So where do you think the ability to create advanced civilizations comes from?
Intellect, biological differences.
Which is not the soul.
No.
Even though the soul is exclusively defined by the intellect and the capacity for intellect in your view.
Again, it depends on how you ontologically define the soul.
That's a whole can of worms.
Well, you should probably think for a second what the soul means before you make such a ridiculous claim. You're a Catholic
The Catholic...
You're a so-called reactionary...
You're a reactionary Catholic
theocrat and, you know,
all secularism and all this stuff is a disaster.
But you're just kind of winking on the side, oh yeah, like this
vulgar biological materialism, totally correct.
That's a side thing. That's not related. That's like a side thing, dude.
That's on the side. No, no, no. You are a Catholic
integralist, so integrate everything into one cohesive worldview.
How do you reconcile your vulgar British Darwinism with Catholic theology? That's what I want to hear.
That's just a mischaracterization.
No, it's not.
You are a vulgar, racial, biological determinist, materialist.
But how is that compatible with Catholic theology?
I don't understand.
Is analyzing the temporal material world wrong now? Is that not Catholic?
Is it making...
The problem is you're not just analyzing the temporal world.
You are analyzing the fundamentals of what makes someone human.
That's the issue. No, no no that's what it is the ability to make
advanced civilizations is what distinguishes us from animals and that is what you are creating
when it comes to different historically constituted peoples
right okay so you're saying that okay but that's not necessarily how it works right i'm saying
that well catholics and christians believe that the humans are distinct from animals because we have the ability to reason.
And, for some people have a greater ability to reason.
And other people, but it doesn't mean that, no, that's not how that works.
Are there less humans?
That's not how, you, there's got to be some word
for what fallacy that is.
Because I don't know it off the top of my head.
It seems like you're saying
we're distinct from animals based on our
ability to reason.
Therefore, in your view,
you think Africans are less able to reason as Europeans, so you're saying that they're less human.
No, that's not what I'm saying. That's not how that works.
Why not?
Because that's just not how it works. I mean, it's because it causes cognitive dissonance in you or because it's not a logical consequence of what you're saying?
No, just the ability to reason in of itself distinguishes humans from animals and Africans have the ability to reason.
But if there's variation, they might have an inferior ability to reason, but they are still
human.
So they're inferior at being human?
I mean, I guess.
I don't know.
There you go.
So you're saying the same thing I'm accusing you of saying.
But they're still human.
It doesn't matter if they're inferior.
Yeah, yeah.
But there's still a murderer.
There's still less human.
I didn't say, I didn't say you're accusing them.
I didn't say you're accusing them of not being human at all.
I'm saying you're accusing them of being less human than you are.
Not necessarily.
Yeah, necessarily. There's a spectrum of
humanity in your view and they're less on the
spectrum.
I don't think humanity is a spectrum.
I think it's a standard that we can fail to reach.
You are saying they are worse at being human or reach completely, that is.
Listen, there are clear. In terms of of intelligence they might be worse
of being human than I am sure but
intelligence is what distinguishes us
from animals right
the ability to reason which has
to do with intelligence so somewhat
what's the difference
um again I'm not sure you have to What's the difference?
Again, I'm not sure you have to talk to a theologian on that. Well, there isn't. The theologian will say the same thing.
So you don't want to acknowledge the logical consequences of your worldview because they're
inherently contradictory
and that's the problem
see me this is the difference between us and I'm not
saying this to demean you I'm saying it to inspire
you the difference between us well how old are you I don saying it to inspire you. The difference between... How old are you?
I don't want to age docs.
Okay, what about a ballpark?
Are you a teenager?
Yep.
Okay.
This is an 18 and up discord did you know that
I'm 18 in a few months
I just age docs whatever
all right well I've tried to help you
and hopefully you grow up and the last word of advice
I will grow up that's inevitable
my last word of advice to you is this
right
when I was your age
I could not live with contradictions
fundamental contradictions cognitive dissonance in my outlook, and not just contradictions, but more specifically, an inability to be reconciled with the consequences of my beliefs. That would have bothered me. I couldn't just turn on some guy on the internet
and say, oh, yeah, he's, I actually had to think through it independently and be confident in what
I believed. I pray, I pray you could be led down the path of independent thought so that you could actually be confident and more certain in your convictions about the nature of reality so that you won't be scammed and abused and led along in some nonsense cult
that is inevitably going to fail.
Now,
go to bed because you probably have school tomorrow.
And Mods ban him
because he's underage.
All right.
Anyway.
Look.
It's not rocket science not rocket science not rocket science all right um you can't claim to be a christian if you're just trying to smuggle in neo-nazism because that's what's going on
that's what's going on with these new right-wingers they understand how compelling religion is, how much in people's heart, religious belief is there. And they're trying to smuggle in pagan neo-Nazism
under the veil and under the disguise of Christianity and of religion.
And this is the problem.
Because the two are completely incompatible.
I am open about the fact of the tumultuous.
For Robbie, what's going on? I'm open, very open about the fact of the tumultuous. For Robbie, what's going on? I'm open, very open about the fact
of the tumultuous relationship between communism and religion. Jayesko, what's going on?
But I'm not here lying to people
about this history and this relationship
and the distinctions between the two.
I need to debate the unveiled pagan Hindu Nazis now.
Uh,
uh,
that's,
yeah,
those guys would be like,
if I told them like,
oh,
so,
that's like the Chad
yes face of a debate
appointment. Like they would be like, yes.
That's the cast system. We believe
in it.
At least they'd be honest.
Yeah, I'd be like, the Nazis are pagan.
They'd be like, yes, sir, that's exactly my point.
Hot take, what's exactly my point. Heart take.
What's going on? Where'd you get your shirt from?
Should I tell you?
You guys want... Ones if you want to know where I get my shirt from.
HDG.
What's going on?
Um... shirt from hdg what's going on um it's not h and m what the fuck are you talking about it's this japanese what is it called it's a japanese clothing store and they only have them in some places. What is it called? Uniclo. Yeah, Uniclo. And they're cheap. They're very cheap. Their clothes are very cheap and they're high quality
and uh i like them uniclo that's where i get my clothes from now.
I like the prices and I like the style and that's where I shop.
So you too can look like Haas if you just shop at uniclo i guess i mean why the fuck am i advertising for them
when i have should i'm a competitor with my own merch or something i don't know guys
wear what you like.
Yeah. Anyway, guys... um yeah anyway guys anyway guys i will see you uh next stream tuesday right bye bye signing off hope you guys had a great scream Bye bye