Haz's Lecture about the Economy, Money, Commodities, etc | InfraredShow MS Paint Lecture Stream

2021-12-11

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this tweet uh has been getting me into

some trouble

apparently they're trying to ratio me a

little bit

and i've been getting a lot of quote

tweets for this one it's super

controversial

and i don't know why because it's like

it literally says i wonder if you guys

are ready to know and okay you're not

ready to know whatever then you know

i said i wonder if you're ready to know

i didn't try to convince you i said i

wonder if you're ready to know i don't

think you are though you know even you

my chat i don't think you're ready to

know right

but i said you know i wonder if you guys

are ready to know that we've already

been living in socialism for a long time

now

and that you only think otherwise

because of a new left agnostic heresy

that personalized capitalism as a

psychopathological vice instead of a

mode of production now huh what do you

mean by that house what do you mean by

that has

what i mean is that

there's literally a billion ways you can

[ __ ] look at it but

the socialist mode of production has

more or less

already prevailed over the capitalist

one worldwide

now what do you mean hans

what do you mean by that

what do i mean

okay

i'll explain it

i know it's gonna it's gonna be uh i

mean it's like

i don't how do i do this for people who

just haven't read marx and engels right

i just have to like

know where to start okay so marx and

engels were talking about this thing

called socialism right and and communism

and for them

the capitalist mode of production was

transitioning into communism or

socialism right to socialism to a

different mode of production

and for them

the class struggle

was

being waged

as the manifestation of this transition

so there was a transformation going on

in the forces of production

and

the class struggle was how this

transformation was working at their

level of the relations of production

there's there was no voluntary struggle

for socialism where like the workers

rose up together like guys let's make a

new system

no their the new system was already

being born out of the old one

and

the manifestation of that fact at the

political and social

and discursive level

was the proletarian class struggle so

there was no struggle to create

socialism there's no struggle to make a

new system there is no struggle to

impose a new society

that was already happening

and marx and engels actually talked

about specifically in the form of the

joint stock market and a bunch of other

[ __ ] specifically you read capital

volume three you'll understand this

right

so that was in the 19th century

finally by the 1890s

angles would say something like look

now shit's about to get real

we're anticipating a big war is gonna

come

and

this war is going to make the

proletariat victorious it's going to be

the death knell of capitalism capitalism

is going to finally be done

right

okay

world war one happens

and the

octo revolution also happens

and

what do you know europe is fundamentally

transformed

the mass conscription of world war one

led to his unprecedented level of

socialization of the forces of

production

lenin remarked upon this process in his

book i know you guys might be familiar

with it are you guys familiar with

lennon's book

imperialism the highest stage the one

you're always seeing on twitter

because you think lennon's book is some

kind of like

moral condemnation of imperialism

well maybe

some of that is there

but in the main it wasn't that in the

main it was a now it was an analysis of

what lenin deemed to be a qualitatively

new stage of capitalism which he thought

was going to be the last stage of

capitalism right

lenin believed

that imperialism was closer to socialism

than the normal capitalism

for lenin imperialism corresponded to

large-scale socialization

large-scale

planning and all this kind of [ __ ]

right

and he directly talked about it he

directly talked about it okay

lenin dies in the mid-1920s

and 1929

the stock market

and the global

or i should say world economy the world

capitalist economy

collapsed

there you go

the great depression

literally destroyed

capitalism

as marx and engels anticipated they said

it was coming it came 1929 was the year

so what happened after 1929

how did the economy recover well the

economy recovered has the economy

recovered after 1929. what are you

talking about

uh-oh what do you mean the economy you

mean

you mean

you mean the vested political interest

to ensure

the production and distribution of goods

can still

can still operate smoothly

the very category of

the economy

is a political

category

the economy recovered yes

because

it became the vested political interest

of the ruling class through the

mechanism of the state

to ensure the normal production and

distribution of goods can continue

so the ruling class was scared shitless

their

the lifeblood of what got them into

power

completely collapsed

so they used the state

for political purposes

in order so that there won't be a

revolution that's going to come or there

won't be some kind of [ __ ] you know

communist change right

in order to plan the start planning the

economy and intervening in the economy

in such a way

so as to establish

a social form

of production

you think after 1929 that was just

capitalism

you think that was just capitalism

capitalism died dude

the [ __ ] that came after that was

political

that was political it wasn't just like

you know capitalism is something called

the anarchy of production it's literally

the

it's capitalism is when

you have this anarchy of production

of this aggregation of competing

enterprises

and competing uh

businesses and capitalists

and this coalesces and aggregates into

some kind of like market of some kind

right

that's capitalism

that collapsed in 1929 so after 1929

the economies

livelihood became a political

concern of the state

so what is the socialist mode of

production

what does it mean for there to be a

socialist mode of production

well let me put it this way right

you have to understand

that

within capitalism or modern capitalism

you're dealing with this hidden symbolic

economy of titles

of property ownership of money itself

which is a form of signification

it's a it's a symbol right

these suddenly take a social form

in socialism

these signals that change the economy

and signal

produce the necessary signals

or inputs into the process of production

and distribution

when austrians

and neoclassical economists talk about

the market

producing price signals

that is a category of central planning

information

is a question of central planning it's

not a question of a spontaneous market

working itself out it's a matter of

something that's for

economic planning

when's the next showdown z somewhere can

you shut your stupid [ __ ] mouth you

[ __ ] idiot

interrupting you with your stupid

[ __ ] question pinging me when you

know the [ __ ] showdowns have

consistently been every [ __ ] friday

at 7pm est shut the [ __ ] up and stop

asking me when's the next [ __ ]

showdown you [ __ ] idiot

money went from being a signifier well

to being

no okay no you guys have to bear with me

here right

trying to tell you a story and it's too

it's too hard to explain this whole

[ __ ] story to you i can't give you a

history lesson you know on

the origins of the crash of 29 and then

the bretton woods system after world war

ii and then the causes and reasons for

world war ii in the first place then the

bretton woods system and then all of the

[ __ ] that happened but more or less

oh i explained it to you this way i want

to explain it to you this way right

let me let me explain to you this way

let me go ahead and explain to you this

we're going to do some paint we're going

to microsoft paint

paint okay

i'm gonna explain to you very simply

it's so simple right

before capitalism

okay it's like this

right

m c

money is you start with a commodity

you gain money to get other to get more

commodities right it's all about it ends

with some kind of commodity right

supposedly this is what marks

this is not really true but

it's a simplification right

capitalism

[ __ ]

capitalism

the [ __ ] happened

before capitalism

supposedly according to mark's

angles

m c

capitalism

money

commodity money more money right

socialism

okay i'm gonna explain these so before

capitalism

you had

you start with the commodity

you put it into

you sell it for some money right

and then you use that money to purchase

more commodities and you just have more

[ __ ] and more wealth

like that's i think that's what marx and

angles were thinking right it's just the

accumulation of things

it's the accumulation of things that is

the source of power

in the pre-capitalist economy right

now with capitalism

you have money

you use the money to purchase invest

into commodities and it's money prime

you get more [ __ ] money right

so what is socialism how did how does

this

become sublated in socialism

socialism does not put an end to mcm

crime

mcm is not abolished but sublated

into

and

decentralized sublated and decentralized

what does that mean

mcm

does not become the ends of production

mcm does not become the ends of

production

become the ends

but the moment of production

does this make sense to you

so mcm

the pursuit of money for money's sake

right

doesn't become the ends of production

but a moment of production

mcm becomes an indication if you are

being profitable and therefore

if your enterprise is efficient or if

your enterprise is ultimately

sustainable

right but it becomes a category of

planning

because your enterprise no longer exists

for mcm

if mcm alone is what defined the

longevity or the purpose of enterprises

why is it then when these [ __ ]

companies go bankrupt

and they [ __ ] this up mcm they're not

able to be profitable they're still able

to be propped up by banks or by loans or

by some kind of uh

print some kind of uh printing of

government uh credit right government

money to be distributed to the economy

because

the purpose of production

the ultimate

purpose

of production

the ultimate purpose of production

is political is political and social

i should say social first and then

political social and political

it's about the purpose of production

not see there's a really big western

bias where westerners care a lot about

procedure right so they want to say if

their procedure is not south shore it's

not south list

right that's why they say china isn't

socialist because the procedure

is the private market economy right

but the outcome is social right

but they don't care about the outcome

they care about the procedure it's the

same politically now with china the

procedure for how this decisions um

are made is not really democratic but

the outcome is democratic

right

it's the same [ __ ] pathology

how does mcm work

abstract forms

there is no socialist equivalent to

mcm because the object of social

production

is not

cannot be formalized as a variable

dmc

this object

is rather

this is gonna not make any [ __ ] sense

to you guys aesthetically

aesthetical

ideological perhaps

aesthetical ideological and then what

else

yeah those both work aesthetical and

ideological

uh ideological

and i don't feel like it's not enough

aesthetical

ideological and

what's the word i'm [ __ ] looking for

no transcendental

transcendental is what i was looking for

you want me to give you an example of

this

the marvel cinematic universe or disney

what's the reason for the marvel

cinematic universe is it just to

generate prophets

does it exist to generate profits

don't underestimate it the marvel

cinematic universe

there's so much [ __ ] merchandise

there's so much [ __ ] commodities

right

so many chains of production and supply

chains

are being cohered

around the marvel cinematic universe

or think about the [ __ ] iphone let's

say this was an iphone this is an iphone

it needs this this amount of resources

and this this this is what goes into it

how many [ __ ] supply chains and

chains of production

are organized around the desire for the

iphone

what comes first the chicken or the egg

is it because

of this intangible

aesthetical desire for the iphone and by

aesthetical i mean for whatever cultural

or unconscious or ideological whatever

reason people want iphones they want

them is it that people want iphones

because material reality

positions it in such a way that it

aesthetically

it makes it aesthetically desirable or

does the aesthetic desire for the iphone

make

material reality itself which one comes

first does that make sense guys

think about the iphone what comes first

do people want iphones because of

material reality or

does the want of the iphone itself

change the material reality after all

think about all the supply chains

that are organized around the production

of the iphone

the want changed material reality no the

opposite can be said to be true as well

the opposite can also be said to be true

the want is also produced by material

reality the want itself is material

there's something material about the

wanted cell

well

this is where you can't fall into the

trap of one-sidedness both are in a

sense true both are in a sense true

it's both

it's actually both at the same time

that is what material reality's

relationship to desire is but if we're

materialists we know that the material

reality is primary

which means

the want of the iphone does not produce

the want of the iphone

more or less right

so let's just one example the iphone

now think about how

now i just use an example of one

one i don't i don't even like is the

iphone a commodity in marx's sense of

the word do you really think the iphone

is just a commodity and marks a sense of

the word no it's [ __ ] not

it's a symbol it's a brand

it's a [ __ ]

it's a sublime object of ideology

it's not some kind of [ __ ] it's not

just a commodity right

like a [ __ ] sack of potatoes it's

qualitatively different than that

right

now zoom out from the [ __ ] iphone and

think about this at

at the level of um

the culture industry

how much do things like not just but

things like the marvel cinematic

universe beyond determining our

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purchase of goods really like

merchandise and stuff how much does that

shape

how much does that play a role in

defining the types of goods we buy on a

day-to-day basis and how we actually

make sense of our world and how we

position ourselves within this world

well let me put it this way why don't

you just go to the example of communism

isn't the motivation the ideological

promise of the the shining radiant

communist future a pretty important

factor

in um

determining people's motivations and

habits and behavior and so on in this

ex-communist states under communism

isn't what's kind of driving people

along the promise of this radiant

communist future

so this kind of has a

material effect at the level of the

forces of production doesn't it

this has a material effect at the level

of forces of production

the same is true that i'm speaking

generally in terms of ideology right the

same is true

for marvel right in our society or if

not marvel then it can be something else

some kind of dream like vision you know

in china

xi jinping

has initiated the era of the chinese

dream

because

our mode of production has become

very dreamlike we need these dreams

to continue the process of production

along

who's elon musk

who is this guy what's tesla what's

spacex what's all this [ __ ]

elon musk is not a marginal force

billions and billions and maybe even

trillions i don't know of probably not

trillions just billions right of dollars

are being moved livelihoods are being

defined right taken away or or brought

up solely on the basis of what this

[ __ ] guy tweets

elon musk is promising the dream of

going to mars

isn't he

he's a dream seller exactly precisely

he's a dream seller

isn't that what disney is isn't that

what apple is they're all dream sellers

every [ __ ] major company you know of

is a dream seller they are promising you

a big big bold future through them no

company simply confines itself anymore

to just being hey you know

we just

make toilets that's all i mean some do

but they're being swallowed up by amazon

now amazon's making the toilets right

or at least yeah amazon's making those

[ __ ] toilets now right

every single company is

promising the dream of communism now

right this ultimate dream that's [ __ ]

cohering all the chains of production

and the supply chains of production

mcdonald's is the [ __ ] holy savior of

your life now mcdonald's is your

lifesaver mcdonald's is your lord and

savior

it's not just about [ __ ] selling

hamburgers anymore

it's about selling you a dream

for ultimately and radically changing

the future

black lives matter

right

social change

trans lives matter social change

now the thing is

i'm speaking about these companies

mcdonald's

all of them in isolation but they're all

acting in cohort they're all acting in

tandem

all of the corporations are acting in

tandem more or less

that's how it works in china too by the

way every single corporation in china

every single company

the communist party has a seat at that

company so every single company is

towing the party line and the party line

gets executed through these companies

right

the same thing is happening in america

and every other [ __ ] country in the

world except we don't have communist

parties that are accountable to the

people

we have deep states

and oligarchies

that we don't even know about

i'm not saying markets have disappeared

i'm not saying profit has disappeared

i'm just saying

those have become

epic cycles

of a much bigger

mode of production

the mode of production is no longer

based on those things

they've become subsumed yes they've

become subsumed

i want to teach you about plato can i

teach you guys about plato

let me teach you about plato

i think you need to learn about plato

let me teach you a little bit about

plato

let me teach you a little about plato

nothing intimidating don't worry

for plato

he he resolves to answer the question of

forms

the question of forms

both

a variable is a form okay

uh how do i explain like this

question of forms okay

money

before we i'm gonna do before we begin

before this okay right here

before we begin

i'm gonna get rid of this

before we begin

let's think about the variables in mcm

and cmc right

money and commodity

what are these

money

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the total alienated human ability marks

money

isn't it

human labor

money is the total alienated

alienated human ability in general

money

is access to all the products of human

labor and ability

what is money itself

can you guys think about this a store of

value

what a [ __ ]

a store of value what's value

what is [ __ ] value

it's a store of value what's value

before we get the value

does money come first or does value come

first do you have some values

lying around that you gotta store in

some money

no by the time you have value you have

money so let's ask the question what is

money

a value utility what a cuck answer the

value is value utility oh it's value

utility sorry no it's not it's not

[ __ ] utility

it's not utility right

it's not due to a utility for what to do

what

to do what specifically

okay

money is alienated human ability in

general money is the access all the

products human labor and ability but

what is money itself

but what is money itself

what possibly gives rise

to the separation

between

money on the one hand

and the sum total of

labor

products of labor etc on the other

and

on the other

has anyone ever thought about this by

the way

everyone in this chat is a cook you are

all cooks

it's a tool it's a tool everything's a

tool

cause you're such a wise and smart guy

everything's a tool right everything is

a tool i'm just using it as a tool to

play video games

it's all a tool to play minecraft

you don't even know what you want in

this life

what gives rise to this distinction of

money

why must money be separate from

everything else that money buys for

money equals all the labor goods and

services of a society

right

money is what measures them

why is money separate from all those

things is the question

why is money itself separate from all

those things

i've talked about this before on stream

this exact thing

for example

let's say you have two tribes right

let's say you have two tribes

and these two tribes one of them

produces

one of them produces [ __ ] i don't know

beads right beaded necklaces or some

[ __ ] and the other one

produces uh

pelts so one produces pelts one produces

beaded necklaces i don't know this is a

stupid example right

oh so the things that people in this

tribe need right

are finite

whatever we need we get as a tribe and

we can exchange it with another tribe if

they produce something we don't have

and we have to exchange it because we

can't just take it from them

or we can just take it from them in

which case we're just going to go

enslave them but insofar as we're not

going to have slavery

in order for us to deal with another

tribe

we're going to exchange with each other

right

right does that make sense

can you guys stop getting ahead of

yourself and just reign it back and just

[ __ ] simplify it for a second

okay so that's bartering you guys ever

heard of bartering one good for another

good that's bartering you're bartering

i did it's a tool you are literally a

stupid [ __ ]

when your mom told you you were shoot

that you were smart

she was doing you a service

okay

so bartering that's fine

but at what point do you have the

abstraction of something called money

what's [ __ ] money at what point

can this bartering give rise to one

commodity whose sole

value so to speak

is to exchange for other commodities

it itself

is not a commodity

that's useful in any kind of [ __ ] way

money is not useful it's not useful it

has no [ __ ] use beyond exchanging for

other commodities so at what point can't

do do you arrive at that abstraction

is the question you have to [ __ ] ask

of money

what if you need to quantify the value

of the barter

it's not

so many fish equals so many

pelts

you don't need money to quantify that

fwp just said something really smart for

the first time in this dumbass chat

yes

debt

now you're getting somewhere interesting

if you're indebted in some kind of way

you owe others something you have some

kind of obligation to them and you owe

them

you have a debt to them

let's say for example

someone gives you uh some sheep right

you owe them a debt

but for what

what you owe them do you owe them sheep

there's a debt in general

you owe me so and so sheep i don't have

sheep

okay so what can be the equivalent of

those sheep you just gifted me

literally everything suddenly everything

in general and in the abstract

must be

subjected to a common standard five

sheep equals what five fish

and two pelts

and you know whatever

right

something to keep in mind

we're trying to get close to the

question of what money is right what

money itself is

i'm not saying money is debt i'm saying

how can we think about in this

hypothetical abstraction

how

you can arrive at the abstraction of

money and that is an intelligent way of

trying to arrive at it but i don't know

if that's necessarily correct

we're all we're dealing with chicken and

egg [ __ ] hypotheticals historically

speaking

it's much more complicated right

everything is always already there

historically right this by the way this

idea of evolutionism is the completely

biggest [ __ ] discredited piece of

[ __ ] stupid thing that's ever been uh

associated with marxism because we know

it's not [ __ ] true

every single idea of evolutionism of a

human society is completely wrong

of stages different stages

it's completely wrong

but anyway

you you guys are children and and i'm

sorry but you're just stupid people

money is something to pay back the horse

does this the donkey does this the lion

does this this is why the grass is green

and the sky's you're a [ __ ] idiot

alright before you ask the question of

why something exists or what it serves

or what it is for

ask what it is

anyway

didn't i tell you we're gonna talk about

plato

so bear with me

the essence of labor abstracted

what's labor

i'll tell you why more or less

i will tell you why

because in every human society in the

history of mankind

there was one

object of worship veneration

whatever

that

was not only the particular like deity

of each and every society and tribe but

was literally the way in which they were

interfacing with the whole of being

the whole universe the whole cosmos

everything all being

the whole of being is one and the same

as the common object of all human

society

and this itself

is given expression

ritualistically symbolically and so on

and so on

in some kind of way

all society is organized around it

you understand

the total human ability and labor

of a given society

is an expression of mankind's

relationship to it

to this common social object

it's you're going slow it sounds like we

replaced one abstraction with another

should i just ban your dumb [ __ ] from my

[ __ ] chat

you stupid [ __ ]

i don't have time for dumb [ __ ]

children who can't think patiently

i need to arrive at a conclusion

immediately

without thinking

no one has a [ __ ] gun to your head

[ __ ] you can think about this you

understand you don't have to arrive at a

conclusion yet you're not forced to no

one's [ __ ] life depends on it right

now no one has a gun to your [ __ ]

head and is forcing you to spit out a

conclusion you can actually just shut

your stupid [ __ ] mouth and think for a

second

the question is

can this common object of society

right let's assume society is communist

for a moment it has one common object

let's just begin with that abstraction

the question is

what does it mean

for such a society to have an economy

an economy right let's do some

heideggerian [ __ ]

where we look up the etymology of a word

and develop and explore the meaning of

that word

from that right

so let's just do that for a second

just do that

okay

i want to just give you guys an idea

of how you do this

so here's the etymology from google of

economy

it comes from the root word of oikos

which means not house by the i will

explain the

the the meaning of the word uh oikos in

greek it doesn't just mean house by the

way

and

name which means marriage

okay

so this is oiconomia

household management

is the word it comes from there you go

that's the source of economy

however does not just mean house

so this is a misleading simplification

interestingly

and oikos

is a form of living being

this is the oikos from wikipedia right

which says it refers to three distinct

concepts the family the family's

property and the house

the oikos is the basic unit of society

in most greek city-states

here's what's going on

with the oikos right

the oikos

you are dealing with

the way in which let's say a given unit

of a society this one communist society

let's hypothetically it's a communist

society right in our head

this unit of this uh communist society

how does it reproduce itself

how does it attend to its living being

how does it feed itself clothe itself

shelter itself

how does it manage its family it's it's

its way of living its way of life

right this is oikos

but then you have the question of

the oikos for example

when given ideal representation

enters into contradiction

with the means of its uh

reproduction

so for example let's say for instance

you are a communist householder i don't

[ __ ] know right you're just a

household in a communist society and

oikos or some

some family unit or something right

and you have to reproduce your existence

you may have the ideal for example in

the reproduction of your existence

the aim and end of your life is what

well

the aim and end of your life if you're

living in some kind of social

society

is going to be beyond yourself it's

going to be for example for your family

or your family

and then beyond your family for your

tribe and beyond your tribe for your

what is it jen's how do they call it for

your gens then beyond jen's for your

state right

for your state

but this is not one and the same with

the means by which you do this

there's a contradiction

any idealization for example of the

ultimate ends and aims of your oikos

your living being of what your living

being is

is different from the material

prerequisites to reproducing it

so materially speaking for example

you're going to have to um

get into the dirt of material material

reality com that is completely um

let's say

indifferent to this ideal

idealization and you have to obey it as

something that needs to be attended to

on its own terms

so i'm going to repeat the question

let's say we have a society with a

completely common object

completely common object it's a

communist kind of society right

hypothetically

or maybe it's like plato's republic

if that if that helps

you necessarily have a form of living

being corresponding to this relation to

the common object

and oikos

right and oikos

and in the process of this living being

through this oikos

you have

you have uh the basic requirement to

attend to the material

prerequisites to its reproduction

so an economy

an economy

is opposed to the state

in a simple way right this communist

state let's say

this communist society

wow you said communist state yes i

[ __ ] did [ __ ] suck my [ __ ]

how many need to miss stateless though

shut the [ __ ] up you dumb [ __ ] you

don't know the first [ __ ] thing about

communism

the living being

so what is living being first of all

what

relation to the ultimate ends and aims

of the platonic ideal state the republic

oikos basically means that in so far as

i have as my ideal aim and ends

the republic

i necessarily must still attend

not only to my needs

as a human being to reproduce myself

but to my relationship

with my forebears

with nature with my progeny

this is living being living being

is the manner by which one reproduces

this cycle

after entering into in into some form of

intercourse

with

the ideals opposite which is nature or

material reality

and reproducing oneself right

reproducing one's family reproducing

one's

household and so on and so on

that's the oikos the oikos is the living

being

but how that occurs

isn't going to be uh

determined by the ideal of the state

because you can't know

you understand in so far as we

are attending to our material premises

eating clothing ourselves and doing all

this kind of stuff

dealing with this otherness of nature

material reality is otherness of our own

premises of even for example attending

to the needs of our body as human beings

right

like feeding ourselves and [ __ ] right

this cannot be known

preemptively

by the ideal form of the state or the

common community

which means

that is what at the point in which the

economy must be treated as a sphere

separate from the state

the state is not one and the same with

the economy

because the economy deals with the

material premises of the state and the

individuals

that

form the state that comprise the state

that's why you have that basic

distinction

that's why you have that basic

distinction in the first place

but here's the thing

the relationship between

the state as a common universality of a

given society and by universality don't

be intimidated by this word let's say we

all live on a [ __ ] island somewhere

for example and we have a platonic

republic the ideal republic on a [ __ ]

island

the universality of the state will

extend no farther than the material

reality of its constituents no

so insofar as we are part of this island

the state is universal so don't get too

[ __ ]

caught up on this

where money enters into the picture it's

curiously

the otherness of the state

the ideal republic let's say of plato i

am not by the way describing the genesis

or origin of money historically i'm

trying to allow you to think in this

abstraction so you can understand

what money is you can understand what

money is in the first place

okay

please keep that in mind i'm not

describing a causal relationship

of the chicken and the egg and so on and

so on i'm describing this so we can

arrive at a better concept of what money

is a better understanding of what money

with regard to the universality of the

state on the one hand and on the other

hand the otherness of nature the

otherness of the material premises

that mankind must necessarily enter into

some form of intercourse with in order

to reproduce

the ideal republic you have on the one

hand plato's philosophical abstraction

of the ideal

republic but

this republic for example

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the manner by which it is reproduced

cannot be attended to ideally

hence the need to arrive at a

fundamental distinction between

statehood and economics

the way in which in material reality we

reproduce this republic is a different

business than how you do it ideally

right in the sphere of politics

uh or in the sphere of

example the philosophy of politics

politics maybe you say how's why are you

idealizing politics what's this platonic

idealism why not have a hobby in

materialism of politics after all

politics is founded on the

ruthless politics is a material thing

it's based on

material power ruthless bloodshed and so

on and so on

because it's easier if we begin with the

ideal republic

because the material reality of politics

of polities

would be a would make me veer off into a

different

conversation right so let's just begin

with the universal ideal state of plato

plato

so we can arrive at the distinction of

economy right

now let's even in a hobbesian jungle

where everyone's

you know it's battle royale and

everyone's killing each other laughing

man last man standing is the king

uh that everyone must obey or whatever

right the hobbs get an idea

even then

the question then stands is what is the

expression of that sovereignty or

sovereignty right

however you say sovereignty how what is

the expression of that sovereignty

in um

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in material reality insofar as how

people reproduce this well that's not

something the sovereign is capable of

willing or determining it's the same

thing as the ideal republic it's the

same contradiction i mean that we're

speaking of

and by the way the abstraction i'm

giving you is actually backwards

because

from a materials first you have living

being and then you have

the i'd

whatever this ideal republic or the

state right but we're learning it

backwards because it's

we begin from this idealist prejudice

we're working backwards

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anyway

with the economy

we are of course dealing with many

different material things

right

many different material things

different discrete things that are

exchanged that are bought that are sold

we're not really dealing with a

subsistence economy at this point

if we're dealing with an economy of pure

subsistence

what need would there be

or what

how could there be rather a common state

in the first place if everyone's just

attending to their own subsistence

surely at the very

least there needs to be some kind of

surplus to that subsistence

that's used to reproduce this common

social state or what what else unites

people's sociality right so clearly

we're beyond a mere

reality of subsistence for separate

households

right

here's the thing

just in as much as we have the

universalism of this ideal state or

republic

there's also a dark universal

a kind of dark universal

what's this dark universalism

we have on the one hand the ideal state

the ideal state

on the other hand you have what i

describe as the material premises of

that state in the form of the economy

but the economy is composed of various

separate different

things how do you get to money

how do you get to money an economy is a

bunch of random [ __ ]

horse [ __ ] and fish and fur and uh i

don't know

you know what i mean like a horse and

sheep and

cattle and grain and potatoes whatever

the [ __ ] you want right assorted [ __ ]

you have one universalism of the state

and a bunch of [ __ ] right

this [ __ ] being

the man of some kind of uh

testament to the otherness of the state

that the economy attends to this

otherness being nature material premises

and more specifically and more

importantly

human labor the otherness of human labor

the metabolism of human labor the manner

by which mankind enters into intercourse

with nature

it's curious i don't want to detract

it's curious

if you ever read marx early

it's curious this passage

in the

seventh chapter of

capital

you think marx is a materialist right so

he places emphasis on materiality why

does mark say this

we presuppose labor in the form of

stamps it is exclusively human

a spider conducts operations that

resemble those of a weaver and a b puts

to shame many an architect in the

construction of herself

but what distinguishes the worst

architect from the best of bees

is this

that the architect raises his structure

in imagination before he erects it in

reality

isn't that a little weird when you read

that first it was for me

may like

10 years ago when i was in high school

and freshman year and i was trying to

read capital i read this passage and it

really weirded me out because i thought

wait i thought marx was a materialist

how can he define labor

based on the fact that if an architect

first

idealizes

the object of his production and then

works upon it shouldn't it be the

opposite

it's a little strange

isn't this a kind of idealist view first

you have the ideal and then you work

toward it and that's how we define it

it confused me right

but i understand it now because

it makes a lot of sense

what is human labor

one of the ways you can think about

human labor

human labor right

is the way in which

i have an ideal ends of production i

just i'm using here the total universal

platonic ideal republic

as this ideal of labor so it's a

communist platonic society

plato was obviously a communist right

we all know that

i hope everyone here is smart enough to

know that

but

first you have this

and then the manner by which one

reproduces

this by entering into some kind of

relationship with nature

that is labor

that's labor

this transformative process

where man changes

his surroundings

in conformity with some kind of ideal

that is the power of labor for marx

we have on the one hand the state

ideal republic

as the manifestation of the common ends

of all life

the common ends of every constituent

citizen

and human being

that's under its dominion

and on the other hand you have the

state's economy

which

represents its otherness

labor being the mediating factor between

the two

this otherness

as it happens

possesses form

it's not just

that

the universal immediacy of the state

possesses form

and unity the otherness also possesses

form and unity the economy is not just

some collection of [ __ ]

as i said

because the economy in the first place

is based on reproducing the ideal

republic so how can it just be a

collection of [ __ ] what about

and here's

the question

what does the ideal republic itself

trade for

cheap trade for this

dog [ __ ] trades for this

fish trade for that bear pelt traits for

that what does the ideal republic itself

trade for

what is its economic uh

how can you turn the state itself into a

commodity

how do you turn the state itself into a

commodity

commoditize the state itself

the universalism of the state to become

a commodity

or at least to become an object of

economic exchange

that

my friends

that my friends

is exactly

what a little coin does

a little coin

that has an

inscription

has the head of uh

state on it the emperor

that's what it does

that's what that little coin means

to tell you the truth

the state

every state

is a [ __ ]

the state is a [ __ ]

that's the truth

it pretends to be a sovereign

authority a sublime

a sublime uh

sublime and common unity of the people

right this is raised above the whole of

society

and the world

but the state must be involved

in the business of its own economy

because the economy is nothing other

than the economy of the state itself

every single form of currency in history

was political

one of the primary and even exclusive

sometimes functions of the state in

history was the monopoly on coinage

even when gold was the universal form of

currency the state still has a monopoly

on the coinage

of coins

i'll tell you the truth

i said the state is a [ __ ]

but it's more like a kind of walk of

shame

it's a gold coin

solar right and um

kind of what's the word

a glorious

solar

right

it's a piece of the sun a piece of gold

right i'm kind of describing it in a

a vulgar way honestly i'm kind of being

like a little critical and snarky and

[ __ ]

because there's a beauty of money too

it's not just a prostitute

and then it has inscriptions of god

religion

or the

the emperor or whatever right

and this is the dignity of the state

the state says in confronting the

universality of its own

material otherness

the coin is the response to that

remember the word dialectic comes from

dialogue

like dialogue right so you have the

ideal republic

and then you have this otherness the

republic itself cannot account for

on its own terms this otherness of

economy and human labor

right

so the state so this is the state here's

nature the state responds

with a coin

you see

the coin is its response its shield

its shield

the thing is the state had already

gotten [ __ ] it already got [ __ ]

this was its response to getting [ __ ]

first you had the state

then you had the otherness

of economy

for example labor

by this time

this has opened its mouth

the state had gotten [ __ ]

and this is its response the coin

currency money

money

arises

because the state or the ideal republic

plato's ideal communist republic

confronts its own material otherness and

it gives form to this otherness it

responds to this otherness in the form

of money

now how does it confront this material

otherness

let's just say

where this is a hypothetical scenario

and it's on an island right to be

the ideal state for example

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wants to

exist in a certain way but the material

necessities of life demand it exists in

another way

this humiliation

associates the recognition of some kind

some kind of disunity some kind of

otherness

of material premises versus the ideal

right and it gives expression to this

otherness in the form of money

to maintain itself

money is the state

it is the state

that's what money is

money is the state

in the economy

what is the state itself worth in the

economy remember i told you what is the

state purchased for

what is the state worth

what does that purchase for that's what

money is

we didn't even talk about plato yet

so let's answer our question

answer

money

estate

in the economy

i talked to you before

about the distinction

between

the different things

and what unites them

first

i want to make a connection that lacan

did

in his

seminar the ethics of psychoanalysis

already

which is between

plato's good

and

commodity

goods

la con actually uh says these are

it's not for it's not for nothing

they're related by the way

i don't even know the etymology of

commodity goods

but it's not for nothing that they're

just

they're written the same way

what is the good

plato's good

the good

is the form of forms

plato resolves to answer

plato resolves to answer the question of

forms

in the discontent

there are discontinuities in space

and time

there are different

things

they have form

they have

they have the consistency of form

they are coherent intelligible

different

objects

right different forms

plato describes as the good

the form of form

itself

the form of all forms

the form of all

the forms of

forms of reality

plato

used the example of the sun

as the good

because

on the one hand without the sun

we would not be able to perceive

reality but on the other hand

you cannot look

at the sun

for plato

the form of forms

is not itself a form

the good which is beyond beauty justice

and truth

say it's higher than these things

better way of putting it

which is beyond beauty justice and truth

is pure form in general sorry

is form in general

the abstraction of form in general

the ultimate object

and final object

of thought

sure god

why not

the good is the monad

it's not itself let's say a worldly form

phenomena

let's just say phenomenal form because

this is

ambiguous

hold on

music

critically thinking veteran thank you so

much man how you doing man

thanks so much bro appreciate you

appreciate you a lot man

gonna be there all right guys

awesome

i'm so excited actually

it's gonna be sick

i don't know how the competition's

really gonna

stand a chance dude you

you just go in and you massacre you know

what i mean you're like uh

a prize gladiator you know

oh yeah pesto's gonna be there too yeah

it'll be interesting it's actually gonna

be interesting you wanna know what i

love about uh

this one too is that we're actually

gonna have a lot of interesting topics

and stuff to talk about it's not just

gonna be like

you know

i wanna promote more diversity of

anti-establishment views so we can talk

about

interesting things you know

but

as i was saying

yeah but anyway as i was saying um

plato first

what are the topics of

either tonight or tomorrow earlier

i'll uh i'll

i'll announce all the topics in the

discord

but um yeah

plato first writes about this in the

book the republic the republic which is

a book about philosophy not

experimentation

but what the good is supposed to make

you

appreciate or recognize

is that it's almost kind of similar to

heidegger

right

if you're familiar with him talks about

being and then being in general for

plato it's the same as far as the

question of form

and then the form in general

right for different forms and then

form as such

the good

plato identifies this as the good

so for plato the good

even in an ethical and moral sense of

the word it's the good in every

meaningful

sense of the word you can you can put it

right

uh it has all of the connotations and

associations it's not just one specific

philosophical meaning it has all of

those ethical

whatever implications you need

the good

shows us that the thing

there is one thing there's one good

that makes coherent the whole of our

reality

in a way

plato's main contribution to

the history of human thought

as far as i can see is that plato

reveals

that

what makes our reality consistent and

coherent what allows us to have

different forms

it's to perceive and uh make

intelligible as i should say make

intelligible different forms

is the fact that there is a form first

form of forms itself

there's a form of forms itself all the

intelligibility of reality has all

things that are intelligible

within reality so far as they are

intelligible to us this intelligibility

has one common object

just one common object

plato's republic envisions a universal

and ideal republic

that

subsumes all of the um

human society

as serving one common aim one common

ends and one common object

because for him the republic

is the form of the good

political form of the good

the republic is the highest ends of the

society

it's the highest ends and aims of the

whole of the human society it's what

people live breathe die whatever poor

replacement

it is the ultimate ethical

unity right this is the common object of

all uh

activity

the republic

keep in mind what i

said before here

because we want to keep our on on the

ball which is

what plato can teach us about mcm

and the corresponding implications for

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the question of

how we no longer live in capitalism

for example

thank you one final gameplay appreciate

you

so i just want you to be familiar with

that platonic terminology right for now

so as it happens

it turns out turns out

the good

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the good

the good has determinate

form

that is in the form of the states

the state i just described to you that

has a monopoly for example on the

minting of currency

thank you gizmo fisherman

um the core subject is

i wanted to talk about plato and the

relationship to mcm and cmc for marx's

capital

because i was trying to tell a bunch of

twitter lefties

that

we no longer live in capitalism

form of the state

the main point for plato

is that form is not given

forms

exist

there are different forms

because of one single form

which is the form of those forms

themselves

no we didn't enter into platonic

republic warlock

we we transition out of a platonic

republic actually right

because gold money

is platonic money it's good money

by the way guys this is why we're never

having a lecture stream again and i told

you we're never doing them again

right because people don't want to

[ __ ] hear this [ __ ]

every time i do it nobody [ __ ] wants

to hear it

this isn't what gets views

it's the source

or plato

we first have this one form as our

object

and then reality

made

intelligible

then consequentially

as a consequence

made intelligible and divided into

different things

isn't the ends and aim of our life

singular

we have a bunch of [ __ ] in our lives

things

things in our lives right different

things

and they somehow have the consistency of

form

let's say a tree outside

have the idea of a tree

the form of a tree

and its consistency in reality

okay

but why

don't you realize

that insofar as the tree enters your

vision your site or your numeral site

let's say

as something intelligible

as a form

this is only an insofar as you are

already given and delivered

in a sense

to a more fundamental object

things that enter your phenomenal vision

in life are not simply just there

you go outside and you see [ __ ] they're

not simply just there

to what extent for example

is the idea of those things what

determines them

that's why plato's known for his thing

about the shadow

the cave plato's cave with the shadows

on the wall

right the idea that there's a fire and

that there's a bunch of

shadows and that you don't actually see

real things in reality when you go

outside and you look at different things

you're not seeing

those real things you're seeing shadows

on the wall

right

that's what he's known for plato's cave

so what makes your reality coherent

and holds it together

is one thing

the form

of the commodity

i'm just gonna [ __ ] wrap this up and

then and then go offline because you

know 350 viewers nobody wants to see

this [ __ ] so i'm going to wrap it up

really quick

and then head out right

the form of the commodity

marxist commodity form

right

what really is a form

what is a form

right

in a sense what is a pure form the form

of what something is

insofar something has a form

it is it's it is uh the way of something

for you

is the way something is

for you

right the way something is

but the way things are have an ultimate

singular

the way things are are because of one

way this is plato's monotheism the way

things are

is because

the whole of being is a way right

all things are part of one reality

trees [ __ ]

uh [ __ ]

grass

mountains whatever all of these things

are the way they are

because of the way reality is

in general

okay

a commodity is a thing

right

it's a thing

that is exchanged

so the form

of the thing

for use for exchange

in the economy the form of a thing in

the economy

is a commodity

commodities

are the forms

a commodity is the form of a thing

in the economy

in the sphere of economic

change

and so far as it concerns

economic exchange

why are they called goods

commodities

also

called goods

because

they are

instances of the good

and of form

the

form

form of forms here

the ideal republic

here the ideal republic

for its currency

i'm not writing a [ __ ] sub stack

right now you dumb [ __ ]

should i say money is the form of forms

i'm really just not content saying that

or maybe i'm just [ __ ] confusing

myself

because it's not

it's not that the state is the commodity

and the money

it's that the abstractionism of the

state in relation to people

or its universalism

leads to a relationship

human labor in general

that is correspondingly abstract and

correspondingly universal in the form

of money

and that things

become measured

in this form which is money

that's the point

is money the form of the state in the

economy like a commodity is the form of

a thing in the economy yes

yes it is

yes

a lot of people don't get plato right

because you tell them about the good

and the form of forms and they say what

is that how could i look at that how can

i interact with that what how could i

see that

and plato

is trying to tell you he writes about

this right

that this is a kind of infantile

childish misguided

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insistence

the whole point

what is the thing

right

what is

you're taking for granted

the different things that are already

within your reality the different forms

plato says the good is the form of form

as such it's outside of space

and time it is perfection

it is eternity it is changeless

the form of form itself

ain't that math

yes

actually

it literally is

literally is the object of mathematics

i'm not even kidding about that by the

way

it's like the whole reason this [ __ ] is

happening

the whole [ __ ] reason this fill of

philosophy [ __ ] is happening after

socrates is cause of mathematics

it's all a response to mathematics

all greek philosophy is a response to

mathematics

actually

yes

the emergence of mathematics as a

discipline

money

the form

of the economic

economic good

to not be

confusing

the economic good

the point is

is the state conceived as collectively

or self-interested

what

the state is the common unity of the

people it is what the people literally

are

it's the form of what they are

they're being

right

money the economic good

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the commodities in the economy what is

the state in

the state is the state it is like

the state of the people like think of

the word state itself

like the state of things

that's what the state is

so what is it in

it's

yeah like a state of being yeah that's a

good way of thinking about it

a very good way of thinking about it

oh god

the state is the form of the people

does that make money the form of the

people as they currently are in the

economy

thank you for the five well i appreciate

you

no it does not

because the state is the form of the

people

you say as they currently are within the

economy what do you mean

as they currently are within the economy

no it's you're just leading to confusion

just say the state the state is the form

of the people the people in the economy

clearly is different from the form of

the people in the state that's why

there's a distinction

of the that's why the economy is

distinct from the state in the first

place

thank you so soulless

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listen guys i've i actually should

should have

done this way more early on

the one thing that separates based from

reddit is plato

it's the one if you don't take if you

don't understand plato you are literally

your brain will always be in reddit you

will always have a reddit brain you will

never ever ever [ __ ] understand

what infrared is

if you don't [ __ ] understand plato

i'm not saying you have to agree with

everything plato says but you need to

understand it you have to get it

if you don't [ __ ] master plato you

will never ever ever [ __ ] reach

any [ __ ] level of red pillar based

ever

if a form is formalized in context what

is the context of the state

the state for plato is the ideal

republic it is the good itself

that is what the good is

it's the state

this idea of the state

being the form of the people

plato

where plato read it in plato's republic

i'm not even getting into like the neo

platinum and [ __ ]

no it's not the economic good this is

where i'm [ __ ]

having a hard time just describing this

because then someone said well what

about quantities of money wouldn't that

be goods

[ __ ]

this is so [ __ ] pathetic guys i'm

just pissed about the honestly i'm just

pissed about the [ __ ] viewer account

it's like i waste my time on this

[ __ ] [ __ ]

go [ __ ] watch some egos with [ __ ]

600 views

blowing me out of the [ __ ] water

nobody wants to learn [ __ ] you know what

i mean

nobody [ __ ] even cares about this

[ __ ]

bunch of [ __ ] little [ __ ]

i'm not even gonna [ __ ] about it but

you know what i'm gonna do

going forward i'm gonna ban every single

[ __ ] person who's like how does this

become so vulgar why is he always

talking to e-girls why is not always uh

doing this this this [ __ ] on zerka's

show why because nobody [ __ ] cares

about this [ __ ] that's [ __ ] why

nobody [ __ ] cares i promise you no

one gives a [ __ ] about this [ __ ] man

nobody gives a [ __ ] about it

when i talk about foreign policy

literally show foreign policy in your

[ __ ] ass there is nothing more

important

but

before anything before anything like the

minimum is understanding plato and

knowing how to [ __ ] relate that to

marxism

the [ __ ] foreign policy doesn't

matter dude

it doesn't matter

it doesn't matter nothing matters

except this

money is an excess

it's an excess

that's the thing

money

is an excess

remainder

is the remainder of the state

a remainder of and over

the state

in its relation to the economy

confrontation with its otherness

the economy

human labor

and attempt

attempt

to account for

otherness

every time the state attempts

to be

in the midst

of its otherness

in the form

of human labor or

the economy

it is confronted

with

the excess

of the latter over

its finite

singular form

money is this excess hence

money is

quantifiable

money is quantifiable

money is not the good

which i was

so money is not the good because the

good is singular you cannot quantify the

good

is the issue

you can't quantify it

does plato account for the otherness

other than

a moment of

the good

system of the good

[ __ ] this [ __ ] man

it's like every time the viewer goes

down i'm like less motivated to even

bother trying to explain this you know

what i mean

instead of finishing this i'm just going

to leave you with a question which is

why i did this [ __ ] in the first place

what is the ideal

republic

of 19th century capitalism

the british empire right

19th century capitalism is almost wholly

synonymous

with english modernity

this is the geopolitical

implication and significance of

socialism i'll just explain it like this

right

19th century capitalism is english

modern

it's english modernity

the

common social substance

its common social substance or

its ideal republic is the british

empire which remains occluded

consigned to the background

and taken for granted

this is why

alternative

industrializations

that were independent of english capital

uh if

or at least possessed

a limited relationship

to the um

concentration of english capital

for loans etc

japan

germany and later the con

japan germany

etc

appear socialistic

because they cannot take the ideal

republic for granted and must

establish its relationship to the

economy and

they have

their own ideal republic

it is in communism

which undertakes the process of

modernization

are entirely independent

of the concentrations of capital

established by the british

empire

that this

ideal republic

becomes explicit

socialism means

repeat

the founding gesture of the

founding sin

and the primal

and to resurrect

the primal father of the ideal

and that is what is happening

this is my simplification for you

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i want everyone

here

since there's only 300 of you i'm just

gonna assume you are the [ __ ] elite

everyone else i'm gonna tell you the

truth guys everybody else is a [ __ ]

all my the other like 200 viewers that i

have regularly they're all a bunch of

[ __ ] they're [ __ ] made you know they

got gyno and they're only here for e

girls they're not smart they're once a

little [ __ ] right and they're not the

loyal og's the other 200 people that are

here

you know they're not actually

the elites so if you're gonna be my

[ __ ] 300 spartans in my [ __ ] elite

i'm gonna tell you to do your [ __ ]

homework and commit yourself before

anything commit yourself to plato commit

yourself to mastering plato

understanding plato he is the

most

important

western thinker ever probably

commit yourself to studying and

mastering plato

you need to be able to spit out to me

a full understanding of plato

okay

and i want you to begin

and i want you to read some dumb [ __ ]

stupid [ __ ] about plato i want you

to read what ellen badu has to say about

plato alain bed you bet you read his

readings on plato read reza

negaristani's

on plato

and lectures if you can

if you can find them

or pay for them

don't read these dumb [ __ ]

simplifications

plato is gonna change your [ __ ] life

plato will change your [ __ ] life

and remember i am not a fan of plato i

hate all philosophy but guess what i

don't hate it but

i'm against all philosophy

but guess what

the only thing the only thing

the only thing

that separates you

from reddit

is plato

the one thing that separates you from

is plato

plato teaches you that there is one

world

one humanity

one

common being

everything in your world you are

accountable for as a man your whole

[ __ ] world

you are accountable for as a man

socrates was literally

invented by plato

all aristotle was was a critic of plato

that's the only [ __ ] reason he ever

existed because he was a critic of plato

that's it

you need to understand

you need to understand that like

we're not just here as like uh

you know you're not just some so some

reddit soy guys some [ __ ] gyno ugly

fat [ __ ]

who sits here thinking

i'm just here living in this world i

didn't choose to be born

i mean

disney

marvel

science i was born

and there's all these stars

that's the [ __ ] redditor you

understand

a platonic man

is born in this world and says

all of this

that you

see i am accountable for as a man

the whole weight of the [ __ ] world is

on my shoulders

how do you think we're

patriots why do you think we're patriots

why do you think we're patriots

we're accountable for this

the key to patriotic communism is plato

if you want it's plato

he's the reason

it's not [ __ ] heidegger

it's plato

you [ __ ] reddit or dumb idiot [ __ ]

we are living in socialism whether we

want to acknowledge it or not

and we're living in [ __ ] socialism

because the primary

driving force of our economy

is social in nature

and it's social in the form of signals

and information

just like what [ __ ] happened with

gamestop

and by the way the whole [ __ ] thing

about the

psychopathological advice is because

when people think we live in capitalism

this is

classical capitalism

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they're trying to make money trying to

make money for what what do most people

want to make money for is it just to

make more money no it's not most

most people want to make money for a

reason right

and that reason

social

oh you're just trying to make money dude

after the [ __ ] 60s and 70s the new

left anti-capitalism was literally just

based on

what

the critique of capitalism capital is a

man

capitalism man and the [ __ ] economy

already became [ __ ] socialist

capitalism man

it's like

capitalism man

it's almost like a conspiracy theory you

know that anti-capitalism is in in the

west is almost like a conspiracy theory

it's almost like they think capitalism

is like a conspiracy

capital is a man it's the capitalism

you gotta get you gotta not be into that

capitalism man

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john underscore our donated five dollars

it's finals week for us peasants trapped

in the rat race i'm staying here to the

end of each stream even if it means i

fail all my classes long live the

spartans hurrah dinner you don't thank

you for the [ __ ] bro you don't gotta do

that though come on you don't gotta

[ __ ]

do well in your classes don't waste your

[ __ ] money watching my streams just

watch the vlog you know you don't have

you just watch the vlog dude you don't

have to [ __ ]

you know

but

plato is the most evil man who ever was

existed

guess what

that's an accomplishment

plato was an evil man he was evil he was

definitely [ __ ] evil

right

he was he might even be satan

the satan of abrahamic religions might

even be plato who [ __ ] knows

plato is evil

but guess what

you will never be based until you

understand him

you will never be based until you

understand him

capitalism

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capitalism

you gotta understand the capitalism man

take the pill man

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can't [ __ ] believe it's that simple

it's literally plato's the reason i'm

not like anyone else the reason i'm so

different is because of plato

why

it's plato

oh i realize it

that's why i don't [ __ ] with twitter

none of these people it's a plato

how i realize it

what about him was evil

he's a servant of the demiurge

break out of plato's cave

break out a plateau himself

and his uh

way of enslaving

the mind

because that's what he does he enslaves

your mind

or he makes your mind enslaved

to itself

he forecloses any relationship

between the mind and reality

plato does not allow us to arrive at a

relationship to

reality as an object reality

it's everything backwards

everything backwards

plato begins

with the good

and then after is the melodrama of the

fact

that the good falls into the earth

sun falls into the earth

the good becomes a thing

how can a good be a thing

that's not the real good man

cope

that's the issue with plato

he always accounts for everything after

the fact

shut up you potato shaped baloney

you're a little [ __ ] you're a [ __ ]

[ __ ] you're a [ __ ] [ __ ] you're a

little [ __ ] [ __ ]

and your mother would gladly suck my

[ __ ] [ __ ]

with glee

and she would beg for it too i would

[ __ ] your mother and tear her [ __ ]

[ __ ] apart

and i would be your [ __ ] father

i am your [ __ ] father

i am your father

and you are a [ __ ] miserable [ __ ]

disappointment get the [ __ ] out of my

chat

you just got disowned you [ __ ]

that is a [ __ ] idiot

he just jacks off the [ __ ] fantasies

he's a pervert he's a [ __ ] pervert

and i'll tell you why he's a [ __ ]

pervert

he imagines what the left would find the

most

scary and he just adopts that but his

imagination is a little too [ __ ]

limited why do i have 600 viewers

i have 600 viewers

why

the [ __ ]

oh it says 470. okay i thought you i

thought it jumped to 600.

okay

okay whatever [ __ ] the viewers

about to wrap this [ __ ] up anyway

he's a pervert he he bases his entire

[ __ ] thing on someone else's

fantasies the definition of a pervert

he's adopting a leftist fantasy of the

right

there's no authentic substance

he just thinks of something he's like

yeah wouldn't that be edgy

and that's it that has nothing to do

with plato

i read his [ __ ]

where he was like the role of the

philosopher was regenerating the elite

because the elites became corrupted

he has this fantasy of a pervert incest

fantasy

because no elite has ever no decadent

elite has ever been

overthrown by the youth of that elite

never it's never happened

in fact the youth are what come to

epitomize that corruption

the reason

socrates was corrupting the youth was

because this was the youth

just like in the chinese cultural

revolution that was more representative

of those outside the aristocracy

he doesn't understand

that it was a class war against the

aristocracy and their [ __ ] stupid

kids you think the youth of the

aristocracy are these noble warriors

they're a bunch of [ __ ] that's how

it's always been like that in history

sorry for getting mad because you

shouldn't get emotional or whatever it's

just intellectual [ __ ] but it's stupid

the youth of the aristocracy have always

reflected the decadence of their parents

it's always nomads from outside the

community

whether from the countryside or whether

literal nomads from outside the

community that have to come in and

rejuvenate a civilization it's never the

[ __ ] snot-nosed [ __ ] offspring of

the [ __ ] aristocrats themselves

that they're not enough

it's always from the bottom up that's

what happened in the cultural revolution

too by the way

in the cultural revolution

kids from the countryside came to the

cities

you know

the aristocrats in the cities aka the

urban youth

they didn't lead the way

they were actually

worse

are you saying a country boy can survive

yes

i am indeed saying that

who should i raid

who should i read

stardust

[ __ ] no

you know what

this is the truth

i'm not raiding anyone

i'm not rating anyone

i'm just ending it

i'm just gonna end this stream

nobody's getting my raid

i will see you tomorrow on the showdown

and one last thing