MAGA Communism

2025-04-14T01:44:17+00:00
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What's going on, everybody? I see you.
Okay, guys, today's stream is very important and um
thank you dictator appreciate you man
guys today's stream is going to be very important
i'm going to be very important. I'm going to
speak very carefully
right now.
You need to strap in.
You need to take notes and you need
to pay attention to what I'm about to say.
Because I would like to begin this stream by criticizing you, the guerrilla army.
And the reason I'm doing that is because recently a video has gone viral, which is rehashing the oldest and most tired accusations against our movement and somehow by extension our party
sciop thank you and i am extremely baffled and surprised it's gaining the traction that it is and that people somehow find it compelling.
Amila with the 10, thank you so much.
I'm very surprised by that.
Now, the reason I'm mentioning that is because you'd think for arguments that I have so
systematically dismantled and meticulously torn apart hours on end across dozens of hours of streams
over the past two, three years, you'd think that this community would be equipped with the means of combating these lies and misrepresentations of our movement.
And the fact that this type of shit gets as widespread
and spontaneously and mysteriously
viral that it, that is it does.
And the fact that people keep repeating
these narratives and it has the narrative
strength that it does
means that this community has not been
doing a good job
of educating people and correctly
representing to people
our positions.
I'm getting tired
of repeating myself.
I'm going to do it again.
I would not...
So the video in question, it's called the nonsense of Maga Communism.
And I actually was shown this video a week ago when it had 500 views, and I said, this is nonsense. I don't care, right?
Okay, it's sitting at 20,000 now, randomly over the past two, three days, it's picked up massive steam. It's going super, super viral.
Okay? And I watched the video, and I'm baffled at, you know, why people find this compelling or why people buy into this.
American partisan, thank you.
But it speaks, it speaks to the extent that our movement is such a mystery to people, all right?
This whole Maga Communism thing,
it's such an,
it's such an enigma and mystery to people
that anyone can just say anything they want about us,
as long as it has cherry-picked stuff that can form some
kind of coherent narrative, assuming that you, you know, are concealing the things that conveniently
debunk that narrative, which this person did, and people will eat it up. They want to attribute us to LaRouche or feds or whatever because we are a mystery to people. You guys need to do a better job of actually, you need to go on Reddit. I'm just going to be fucking honest.
You need to storm and you need to storm
the Reddits and fight the
battles and you need to be there
because I don't
know where this shit is coming from,
but it's been two to three years and
we're back to LaRouche. We're back to having to respond to that and explain that. It's a little bit fucking ridiculous, all right?
Osos, what's up? And of course, you know that the the the video
it could be fed boosted it could be
botted we don't know
but
we don't know that's the problem
okay and this live
thing I'm doing is going to be only one
of the responses we're going to be launching a barrage of
responses in response to this. And because we're not responding to Brandon, because his video is
extremely mediocre, it's poorly researched, and it's on its own merits not worth responding to. But we are responding to the notoriety and fame and virality it's getting. And that's why we're taking out the time to educate, seize upon this moment to actually educate people not only about what our party is, not only about what we're all about, but the actual theoretical foundation of my perspective, infrared's perspective, the party's perspective, these are not the same thing, although this video
recklessly treats them as the same thing. As evinced by the fact that in the title, it says
the nonsense of Maga communism and the thumbnail has our party's logo, even though Maga communism has no actual official status in the party.
It is not an official ideology of the party.
Never mind these details, right? Who cares?
I will give Brandon the credit of creating a very well-refined, meticulously crafted narrative.
It's not based in truth. It's not based in fact. But it is a narrative that has selectively taken things, a lot of different things out of
context to form this overarching narrative where because people have such a lack of familiarity
with the classics of Marxism,Leninism, they might have familiarity
with Breadtube's presentation of Marxism, right? But not the specific applications of Marxist
analysis concretely in Marxism-Leninism. we end up looking like a big mystery.
If you were familiar with Marxism, Leninism, we would not be mysterious.
That's why people like Paul Coxhot don't call us fascists or Lerushites.
Paul Coxshot sees our program.
He sees our rhetoric, and he's like, they're just communists.
Anyone's familiar with communist history knows that we're just communists. But when you have
ignorance and a lack of the basic rudiments as far as education is concerned about Marxism, Leninism,
we are a big mystery. So people can irresponsibly
seize upon that fact and misclassify and mislabel us as things that we're not. And that becomes
compelling and convincing to people because of the gap in education about Marxism, Leninism.
And I'm trying to keep my cool and keep calm, but it is incredibly frustrating because there are plenty of people actually popularizing, you know, Hitlerism and fascism openly.
And we are actually an alternative to that vector of radicalization that is taking an entire generation by storm.
And we've gone to such great lengths to combat that ideology and
present ourselves as an alternative vector of radicalization for a generation of
people that are inevitably going to be radicalized because of what's going on.
And videos like this, by accusing us of being fascist and accusing us of being fascists wearing a communist disguise,
videos like this aid the efforts of the fascist actual open fascist ideologists because it reinforces the idea that fascism is such a strong compelling and powerful ideology that even the people
calling themselves communists are secretly fascists.
And all that does is make more people interested in fascist ideology than they otherwise would be.
The random bystander that finds us interesting and actually likes what we're saying and is getting on board with it, if they become convinced that we are fascists, rather than running in the opposite direction, a whole lot of those people are going to
run to Nick Fuentes. They're going to run to the actual Nazis and fascists, because why would
they choose the people who are lying about what they are rather than the open, avowed fascists and Nazis. It's incredibly irresponsible
to associate a principled anti-systemic position with far-right or fascist ideology, because this
generation is inevitably going to rebel against the system in some way
and all you're doing is helping the actual fascist so you are a fascist collaborator if you're irresponsibly
spreading this accusation and this narrative finally i would also like to say
a second thing right off the bat the entire premise of this video is as follows the american
communist party although presenting themselves as communists and orthodoxist Leninists, are in fact fascists,
disguising themselves as communists.
And if you look at the history of fascism, you will find that there's precedent for that.
Mussolini and the German Nazi party both hijacked
socialistic and revolutionary rhetoric that came from the left and did it to misguide and lead
workers, you know, into fascism, into support for the fascist
parties and system. So people, midwits mainly, I don't want to insult or call people names,
because apparently that means people won't listen to the actual rational
argumentation you're presenting.
But people see that and they're like, oh my God, the Nazis called themselves socialist
to mislead people.
And the ACP is doing that with the communist label.
It makes total sense.
Because the ACP, they are not like the Marxists we're familiar with, like breadtube and contrapoints.
I don't know these people or Hassan Piker.
So they must be doing that again.
They are far-right Nazis in the modern age.
That's the whole...
His video begins with that premise
and Cherry picks as much as he can
to conform to that premise.
He's arguing the premise effectively
without proving it, right?
Just one problem.
There's one problem with that.
Anyone who deigns to think about it
with the bare minimum of conscious awareness
would be able to understand the one problem with that
is that in contrast to the 1920s and 30s of italy and germany america doesn't actually have a left wing movement now i'm saying a left wing
movement because it just adds insult to injury to that premise
because they had socialist and communist movements very lively and popular ones right when the bolshevik
revolution happened this was in the midst of the first successful proletarian revolution in
world history i was taking Europe by storm.
This was the context and the atmosphere that fascism emerged in reaction to.
I am not even qualifying the ridiculousness of the premise of Brandon by simply pointing out the fact that we have no socialist or communist movement in the U.S.
I'm saying it's so bad we don't even have any left-wing politics at all.
We just have the Democratic Party.
If you want to claim that the DSA is a left-wing movement, it's not a party.
It doesn't have political independence.
It's an appendage of the Democrats.
If you want to say influencers like Hassan Piker are the left,
Hassan Piker was just at a rally for the Democrats, Bernie and AOC. So the left in America is the Democratic Party. If you believe the Democrats are left wing, that's fine. You can believe that. But you will be pressed. You will find a lot of difficulty drawing a historical continuity between the left wing in the communist sense throughout history, the actual historical left wing, and today's Democratic Party.
I know that the media calls Democrats the left. I know that the Republicans
love calling Democrats the left,
but they are not actually
a force of left-wing politics.
And even
if they were, you see
how charitable I am being
in my systemic dismantling and destruction of this premise?
I'm not calling him names, and I'm not making fun of his voice.
I am very calmly and rationally explaining why this is such a ridiculous accusation to make against us.
Even if we were to concede and acquiesce to the ridiculous idea that the Democratic Party and Bernie was the left, and that's a real independent left-wing movement in America, even if we were to do that there's one slight problem
not only is that just not even one percent of the zeitgeist that the Bolshevik revolution introduced to Europe,
not only is that not even 0.001% of the strength and power of the left that existed in italy and germany and the widespread
popularity and the sentiment and the mood at the time of a victorious proletarian revolution at hand
the democratic party is in retreat. It's a party in retreat. The so-called
left in America is in retreat. If it exists, according to you, that would have to be the Democratic
Party. If you believe the left exists in America, that would have to be the Democratic Party. If you believe the left exists in America,
you would have to say it's the Democratic Party
because nothing else exists
that could possibly be called the left that has any significance.
But the Democrats are in retreat.
How is it logical that we would want to disguise ourselves as left wing, let alone communists, while in fact being fascist or far right, when it would just be much more lucrative
and sensible for if you were indeed a fascist or a far right person to just openly be that. Why the
need to disguise yourself? Why would that be necessary? Can people please
comprehend with meticulous precision the line of argumentation I've laid out here? I have explained
with so many different
charitable good faith
devil's advocate qualifications,
how whichever way you look at it,
the premise according to which
we are lying about who we are and
we're not actually communistsists but we're merely fascist
disguising our real views makes no sense why would we disguise ourselves as a fundamentally unpopular
position right now when actual open fascist ideology is way more viral,
way more lucrative, and way more successful right now in the U.S. Even if you believed the Democratic Party was the left and that we have a left in this country,
the Democratic Party is in retreat.
That wasn't true for the Italian socialist and workers' movements on the eve of the black shirt reaction.
And it wasn't true for the German left and German communism or even German social democracy.
They were very powerful, well-established forces in German politics.
Again, that the Nazis and the Italian fascists, respectively, emerged in response to. If we are fascists, what are we emerging in reaction to? The popularity of communism that's gaining steam. The truth
is that we contributed to that popularity
ourselves. I have
been here
since
2021 when communism with a capital
C was extremely
unpopular. We were here technically since 2020, but we just didn't have any
prophylicity. And I have been a Marxist since I was 12, 13 years old, okay, studying Marxism
almost every single day since then.
My whole life is about Marxism.
And you mean to tell me
that since I was 12 years old,
this was all a conspiracy by
Lyndon LaRouche to disguise myself as a Marxist and a communist.
The square one of just having a rational and sensible critique of us in our movement is acknowledging the fact that we are sincere.
You may disagree with the idea that we are sincere. You may disagree with the idea that we're communists, but claiming that we are lying about
who we are, that we don't believe that we're communists is just patently ridiculous.
It's just patently false and ridiculous you need to contend with the fact that there are other interpretations of marxism than the one you have and if you
watch this video long enough, you will actually learn maybe a thing or two about
what possible interpretations of Marxism there can be, and it will probably lead you to re-examine the one you've taken for granted.
And I'll teach you something about Marxism-Leninism, that you didn't know before.
And so that's what I'm going to try and do this with.
And I'm going to do it with MS Paint, and we're actually going to have full-on education,
and that's how I'm going to try to contain the deep frustration and rage I have for the fact that there are self-proclaimed
communists who are instead of actually combating the open fascists and trying to actually educate people about communism, are deciding to attack us and bad jacket us as fascists in disguise
shrell stennie thank you so much um in a way that's completely baseless and devoid of any grounding in
reality upon minimal scrutiny.
I am going to hold your hand throughout this video and meticulously break down
why it is fundamentally divorced from reality, made from a position of bad
faith
and collapses upon
minimal scrutiny.
I don't think I should have to do this
because I'm going to be repeating myself
but it's your job
in chat
to pay very fucking close attention to what I say and not zone out because I don't want to keep repeating myself.
You guys need to learn how to use logic and argue.
Use your head and just think.
If you just think, it will not be hard for you to explain to people why the things that are said in a video like this are fucking stupid
you just have to fucking think
and you guys don't do
you ignore what I say
and you zone out and you gloss over it
you need to actually
fucking turn your brain on and have
conscious awareness.
Videos like this do well, not because they're based in any kind of disinterested reasoning or logic or fact, but because for pathological reasons, they are narratively compelling. We are a mysterious
movement, and here this guy is attributing our mysterious movement to some weird obscure cult from the
1980s, and
audiences will find that compelling
because he's filling
a gap that you are not.
And that's
what every single person here needs to take
away. We are very
mysterious. If you don't fill the gap and shine light on who we are and what we believe and what we're about, people like this guy will, and they'll badjack at us and accuse us of some kind of deranged bizarre thing that we are not,
in fact. So let's go point by point and get right into it. This person has an extremely
warped worldview that is fundamentally divorced from reality and I'm just going to go ahead and say that I think their voice probably reflects that fact. If you want to sound like this guy,
then by all means
acquiesce to their psychosis
and think like they do.
You will probably start
speaking and sounding like them. That's my
ad hoc personal attack, by the way,
in case they try to reduce every thing i say to that
so this is one hour long but don't be intimidated because they just talk really slowly
they might have some kind of speech disorder and i'm just going to put the speed higher, and they'll talk normally with that speed.
On July 21st, 2004, an organization calling itself the American Communist Party pop into existence.
With a two-minute trailer of AI-generated imagery, the American Communist Party proclaimed to be a brand-new
Marxist-Leninist party ready to wage the fight for communism in the United States. And this
seemed to be a formidable enterprise. A letter of declaration was published on Twitter, showing
a bunch of chapters of the Communist Party USA,
the oldest and historically most significant Communist Party in the U.S., apparently defecting to the ACP.
On the executive board of the new party were the all-nine personalities,
Eddie Smith, and Noah Kreativik of Midwestern Marx, has Aldin and Jackson Hinkle,
and the party already had a sleek
new website ready to launch. However,
very quickly, within the next few hours after the
ACP launched, something a bit curious happened.
A bunch of chapters of ACP USA,
who were listed as defecting to ACP,
took to Twitter to clarify that, no, they were not joining the ACP, and harshly condemned the ACP as showiness and reactionaries. The ACP in...
All right, so this is the first claim being made about the chapters. We did not claim that every single member of that chapter or in every case the people who own the social media accounts of that chapter defected over us. What we did claim is that if you read the letter, within the context of the dispute going on within the CPUSA's national convention, the voices of independence within those chapters.
So those who represented the independent will of the chapter rather than the forces of Joe Sims coup did in fact defect and sign off to
this. And we regarded them as the legitimate representatives of their chapter. Why? Because they were
the voices who represented their chapter in an independent capacity. We did not say that every single person from that chapter defected.
Just like when the Declaration of Independence was signed, not every single person from that state signed that letter just the representatives and the voices of
independence from that colony signed it and in that capacity they represented the voice of independence
so that is what gave them the right to represent the will of the colony, because they were the only force of independence. Everyone else was just acquiescing to the status quo. So that was our logic. We never, it's absurd to expect that every single person and every single, moreover, every person who controlled the social media account would have defected.
But yes, every single chapter we listed had legitimate representatives from that chapter defect on over us to us and that much we can prove
the fact has a lot of bad blood with the communist party USA their declaration letter is spent
condemning cp USA and proclaiming it no longer fit to lead American communism.
They expressed grievance at how the party leadership rejected their interpretation of Marxism-Leninism and accused the leadership.
This is not true. I don't know why you would lie about this when anyone can just read the declaration themselves.
The specific issue is not about our interpretation of Marxism, Leninism.
Everyone's free to have their own subjective interpretation of whatever they want.
The grievances were as follows.
One, they rigged their national convention and suspended and liquidated the party according to its own constitution.
That's the most, that's why we did it at this time, rather than another time.
Two, they were tailing the Democratic Party at a time
when a huge or
at least significant mood within the party
wanted them to change course
and change their policy and pursue
independence.
They
crack down on the freedom of criticism against the Democratic Party for years. But leading up to the National Convention, that was when the promise had been made that a spirit of open debate would be allowed to prevail on the question of the party's stance toward the Democratic Party while Joe Biden was overseeing a genocide in Gaza.
And they suppressed criticism, they suppressed democracy, and didn't allow any of those sentiments to be given expression at all
so that was the main context for the um reconstitution of the, at least at that specific time.
Of breaking the party constitution to suppress dissent.
And so they decided to go off and make their own party.
The American Communist Party.
So all this begs the question of what exactly is going on here.
There are all sorts of schisms and sectarian squabbles on the radical left,
but this situation seems a little different and unique.
Even at a surface level,
some of the leaders of the ACP are social media personalities with considerable audiences.
Jackson Hinkle has almost 3 million followers on Twitter.
Eddie Smith of Midwestern Marx has 300 3 million followers on Twitter. Eddie Smith of Midwestern Marks has 300,000 followers on TikTok,
has 100,000 followers on Twitter.
Rev Lascarus has almost 300,000 followers on Twitter.
They seem to have a pretty decent amount of money.
They're able to rent venues regularly for in-person events.
Executive board members are able to rent venues regularly for in-person events. Executive board
members are able to regularly go on
international trips. These guys are far more
well-resourced than your typical communist
or self-described a communist party. The leaders
of the CPUSA apparently
disagree. I mean
that's not, well, we were already influencers, so to that extent we had resources because of the money we made from the internet.
Now, regarding the thing about international trips, I won't say much, but I will say, it's interesting you make the assumption that in all of these trips we are paying out of pocket. I don't know. Could be true, could not be true. But, you know, maybe think about it.
It very strongly with their interpretation
of Marxism-Leninism, which begs the question
of what that interpretation is. The ACP claims
that they are the true and authentic
a Communist Party, unlike CPUSA.
But CPUSA members were quick to condemn
the ACP as reactionaries, which is a strong claim.
Is this just a sectarian mudslinging or is there any truth to this charge?
Let's take a look at the most well-known leader in the ACP.
Jackson Hinkle, a former progressive liberal and environmental activist who appeared in a get out the vote
ad for the Democratic Party in the 2018
midterms. Hinkle has since taken a radical
and interesting Kern in his
politics. If you take a look at Hinkle's Wikipedia
page, it said... So
upon
opening up the question
of what our interpretation of Marxism
Leninism is
he doesn't consult our constitution
and he doesn't consult our declaration
he consults the personality
of Jackson Hinkle
the AC the personality of Jackson Hinkle.
The ACP was formed collectively by a diverse array of personalities and influencers or whatever,
who all had to come together and agree upon a shared principle and a shared interpretation of Marxism-Leninism. To reduce our interpretation of Marxism-Leninism to the
personality of Jackson Hinkle, myself, or others,
is to reject the possibility that there could be an impersonal principle of collective organization and a shared common agreed upon interpretation of Marxism, Leninism, that is not just the personal views of every single constituent member of the founding of the organization.
So off the bat, he's committing a big mistake. He's not actually asking the question of what is the party's interpretation of Marxism-Leninism
as an organization.
He's asking the question of who is Jackson Hinkle on a personal level and what are all the things he's ever said in the past?
Red Design, thank you so much for this. I appreciate you. That's not how organizations work.
To found an organization, that's just more than one person or personality. You have to officially have an outlook. You have to officially
have a worldview that's institutionalized within the party. Again, these nuances are lost on stupid,
board-brained people who think it
doesn't fucking matter,
but it does fucking matter
when you're making a transition
from being an internet personality
to committing to a collective organization.
It is a collective organization. It is
a fundamental
importance to be a tentative
and aware of those distinctions.
Yes, it matters.
And I'll explain why.
He says that he's a promoter of something called Maga Communism and references his self-description as an...
Okay.
The idea that the party's official interpretation of Marxism, Leninism, is Maga Communism
you look at our Constitution
which states our official interpretation
of Marxism-Leninism
and Maga Communism, that phrase
is nowhere to be found
because Maga Communism is not a particular interpretation of marxism leninism
maga communism is a slogan and a strategy perhaps coined it's a meme it's an idea it's a meme, it's an idea, it's a slogan, whatever, coined years before the founding of the party, which was primarily based in an initiative to create a new dialogue between the American MAGA movement and Marxism.
That
slogan
and that
inceptual
goal
has not been institutionalized or officialized within our party. Our party does not recognize the
Maga movement in any way. We recognize one American working class, and our party seeks a dialogue
with the American working class, regardless of whether it's pro-Maga, regardless of whether it's anti-Maga.
That's our party's stance.
The Maga communism slogan was never even a different interpretation of Marxism-Leninism. It was a slogan we thought was a logical conclusion of being a Marxist-Leninist in the American context and applying it in the American context,
but to investigate the question of what particular interpretation of Marxism-Leninism could possibly give rise
to the coining of that slogan is different from just reducing it to the slogan itself.
Now, this is a very nuanced, meticulous argument that I'm making that takes a lot of intelligence to just follow as a line of argumentation.
But why do I have to sit here and yell and be angry to get people to fucking think just logically and rationally? I know it's hard, but bear with me. Maybe some specific interpretation of
Marxism-Leninism could be responsible for a slogan like Maga-Communism. But to say Maga-Communism is that interpretation would be making an unjustifiable leap.
And he is not investigating the source like interpretation
of Marxism, Leninism, that led
to that. He's just saying this
is their ideology, because that's what it says
on Wikipedia.
Lenin, thank you. And moreover,
is that ideology
the ideology of the ACP? Or is that interpretation officiated within the ACP?
If so, why has the ACP not adopted that slogan officially?
I just clicked some shit. I just
clicked some shit. I don't even fucking know on my
computer. Lenin Dubois,
thank you. All right.
American conservative, Marxist, Leninist.
This just creates more questions. What the
hell is a maga communism? How can one be
both MAGA and a communist? And how? How can one be both MAGA and a communist?
And how on earth can one be both a conservative and a Marxist Leninist?
Well, let's hear it from a self-proclaimed Maga Communist himself.
In an interview on Chinese media last year, which Jackson Hinkle did with fellow
Maga Communist Grayson Walker. Walker explained that
Maga-Communism is just the application of Marxism-Leninism to the particular conditions
in America, and nothing more. But the orienting spirit was to try and reinvent or rediscover
the meaning of Marxism-Leninism in the American context. We don't see any real contradiction
between the spirit of being an American and the idea of
communism and what that means for America's working class.
With Maga Communism, of course, we can go into this
as this show progresses. The contradiction is only apparent.
When you dig down to it, what we're doing with Maga Communism
is no different than what Marxist's linists have done in every successful
revolution and in history. It's taking the ideas of Marxism and meeting
the working class at the level of consciousness that is currently at,
which today is in Maga. Now, it doesn't mean endorsing
or tailing the most backwards elements of Maga.
It doesn't mean, for example, endorsing everything promises or abandoned
and so on, but it means going down to the people and learning from and working with them
and trying to advocate oneself as a champion of the people right and when we talk to um thinkers from china who are
marxists specifically the ones that are marxist thinkers they say this is the same thing that
mao did that's what they say did.
That's what they say.
And Henkel runs on this theme, presenting himself as a communist who wants to liberate the American people.
I can see that the policies that Washington, D.C., has adopted and run with for the past
several decades, you know, since before I was born,
are actually hurting the American people. I mean, whether it's our, you know, our outsourcing of
American jobs, whether it's the hyper focus on Wall Street and financial capital,
reigning above all else, raining above manufacturing, like good jobs that are people need,
whether it's the wars and the foreign policy. I mean, it's disgusting what the people who are leading our country are doing in our name.
So that's a mega-communism.
It's just a Marxism-Leninism, but applied it to the American context.
Yes.
With a dash of a patriotism, phrase like this.
No, not with a dash of patriotism.
Here the historical illiteracy and theoretical illiteracy is shining.
Socialist patriotism is the standard position of Orthodox Marxism-Leninism anywhere in the world ever.
To reject socialist patriotism is to reject Marxism, Leninism wholesale. Socialist patriotism
attempts to integrate the revolutionary and progressive history of one's nation with the construction of a working class socialist or communist-led
movement.
That is the standard Marxist-Leninist position, and it has been canonized and officiated in
official Soviet textbooks.
And it's been standard for a century now.
So that's not a dash of anything.
That's just the standard Marxist-Leninist position
it seems like a MAGA communists
are still fully committed to the communist cause
they're just taking a different strategy
and trying to appropriate the MAGA label
to win over American workers
who are drawn to MAGA and Donald Trump
this is what the ACP likes to portray
when they're explaining their ideology
to the uninitiated however what the ACP likes to portray when they're explaining their ideology to the uninitiated.
However, but the ACP
doesn't explain MAGA communism
because the ACP is an
official organization.
It's never spoken about MAGA
communism ever as an
organization. See, the meticulous difference between the voice of a party and the voice of individual thinkers and personalities is a very important distinction to understand because not everyone in the ACP agrees with the MAGA
communist strategy and it's not officiated within the party so why are you saying the ACP attempts to
explain this or that this is what Grayson and Jackson, Grayson was representing
infrared here, explained. This is what I've explained, more or less, but the party itself doesn't
need to defend itself against Maga communism. i will never use the party notice i will
this is never going to be done on the party's official accounts explaining maga communism i'm doing this as infrared right now.
Okay?
It's a very important distinction.
And stupid people don't think it is, because they like to simplify things, but it's an extremely, extremely important distinction, which apparently takes a lot of intelligence to understand.
Is this really what Maga Communism is? When Maga Communists get hard with the label of Reactionary, when Wikipedia describes Hinkle as far right, is this just a slander? Are people just...
Yes, it's absolutely slander. Absolutely it's slander.
Misunderstanding their ideology? Well, for help answering this question, let's turn to an appearance Hinkle made back in 2023 on the Fresh and Fit podcast, hosted by Myron Gaines and Walter Weeks. Now, if you're
familiar with the Fresh and Fit podcast, then you're probably already going, uh-oh. But for
those who aren't aware, the Fresh and Fit podcast is a talk show, which is known for having
certain views about women and relationships, views which have led the show
to be demonetized on YouTube. So what is
Jackson Hinkle doing on this podcast? Is he
challenging their views? Well, let's see.
During his appearance, the conversation steered toward
the topic of women. Now, I would show the clip of
this exchange. However, the contents of this exchange
are such that I am sincerely
worried about this video getting into trouble for hate speech. Even though it's not me saying it,
I still worry because YouTube has historically taken down videos for hate speech, even if the creator
of the video is responding to said hate speech and not espousing it. So for 30 seconds,
I'm going to put text up on the screen of the exchange
and let you read it.
And I'll have a link in my sources
to a video file containing the exchange,
which you can view and verify
that the text I am about to put up
is indeed accurate.
Okay, I'll pause it so we can all read it.
Okay.
Now, it's very important. This is the thing where I want you to have the intelligence
and conscious awareness to follow through the line of argumentation here, because this is going to be a test of
whether you can think critically or not. So Brandon made the claim that is it justified to call them reactionaries? Is it
justified to call the party a reactionary party? Or Maga Communists for that matter. Now, let's break
down meticulously the problem with that framing.
The party could not possibly be reactionary because of anything Jackson Hinkle did years before the founding of the party.
Because, A, he did not do so in any capacity of representing the party officially because the party did not exist at all and b for obvious reasons i mean this should just be a no-brainer, right?
The party never, ever communicated any kind of views comparable to this in any way.
So off the bat, the framing is wrong to say that the American Communist Party can be penalized. At best, you can say, one of the founding personalities of the party has said reactionary things in the past. So let's intelligently and meticulously not let them get away with this false framing.
First of all, okay?
That's just first of all.
That's some background.
That's not actually my main argument here.
Now, follow here
intelligently have the awareness please don't zone out follow what i'm saying here
the claim is made that what jack what jackson here, the deeply offensive things that they've said, you know, where he just kind of acquiesces to what Myron Gaines says that she has to vote but under the authority of the
manager so I think I agree with that sort of mindset so let's actually add some
context here to investigate the question of whether Jackson is operating as a right-wing ideological actor here. Okay. Now, the claim that Jackson is right-wing, because he said this, assumes that he himself established the context for the manosphere for fresh and fit for this type of
sentiment and so on and so on but in order to understand the vector of radicalization and the strategy jack Jackson is employing here, we need to know who's who and who's responsible for what first.
Again, follow me here very carefully with conscious awareness.
Before Jackson went on Fresh and Fit, it was already a very, very popular podcast, and it was very much a podcast with a very large audience that represented the general trends and tendencies and vectors of radicalization the youth or an entirely new generation is going in already if jackson is an actor fighting for communist politics and fighting for marxism and fighting for the revival of left-wing politics,
what would be the smartest strategy to employ if he were to go on this podcast and try to actually
promote the left or promote communism.
What would be the smartest thing to do?
Now, you can disagree with Jackson's strategy here.
That's completely fine.
You can say that his strategy was not the most effective one.
You could say, you know, Jackson, he did it all wrong.
You should have gone in there and started yelling at everyone and been an incredibly incapable of being normal.
And you should have just been totally offended and totally outraged by everything that they're saying, and that would have actually persuaded and
compelled the audience to be more in favor of communism.
You can think that in your head.
I'm not even going to respond to that. I'll let you just think that, right? I'll let you believe it. But what you're not going to sit here and say is that the vector of radicalization that Jackson is pushing toward is toward the right the right context is being
established the right wing context is being established by Myron what is Jackson saying uh I don't know
it's difficult
in this country. I've been to other countries.
Women are more traditional.
Because obviously, in Russia, women have voting rights.
Jackson's not prepared to sit here and say women should not be able to vote when they can vote in the DPRK. They can vote in Cuba. They can vote in Russia. They can vote in China. It's a ridiculous position.
How can he actually maneuver through this situation without appearing weak and thin-skinned and so on and so on and, you know, come off looking bad in front of this audience so you could already tell he is he is not
comfortable with this he's saying i don't know i think i agree and i know this because i called jackson after that and he's like, that was really tough. He's like, they put me in a tough spot. And it's not a tough spot because we have a hard time saying we think women should have the right to vote. But it's a specific strategy going on podcast
like this
and presenting a position
that's compelling to the audience
that you're in front of.
What's the point of going on this podcast
if you're not trying to win the audience
in some kind of way to the best of your ability
you could oppose us you could say that's wrong that you did that you could say that i disagree
with your strategy you could even say that our strategy is ineffective and critique it. I would be open.
I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
The problem is
claiming that our
intentions are to promote right
wing ideology.
Does this look like
Jackson is the one with the intention to promote this ridiculous thing about women not voting? No. He is trying to maneuver himself through a right-wing context already established to present a strong position in front of this audience that's already poisoned by Manosphere bullshit.
And this is the issue with this line of criticism this guy's coming from and a lot of people in general
why are you making the assumption that when we are going on fresh and fit this proves that in essence
we are right-wing actors disguising ourselves as the left. Why are you writing off the
possibility? You're not even entertaining the possibility that the reverse could be true. What if we're
doing Takeya and sometimes
appearing
like Manosphere and so on
and so on
to get a foot in the door to promote
our ideology, communism,
Marxism. What if it's the
opposite? You know, what if this thing Jackson's saying
out of context, it's like, oh yeah, Jackson's far right because he's saying this. But he's already
being put in a far right context with the goal of setting these
far right, this already consolidated
far right audience
down a left wing pipeline.
He thinks this is the most effective
way to do that. Therefore,
he is not an agent
of the right.
If Jackson just said this ex-Nihilo, if he just said this on Hassan Piker's stream, if he said this in China or in Russia or in a context where it wasn't necessary to respond to,
then maybe you could say he's a far-right ideological actor who has these extreme views that women should not be able to vote, right?
But given the context, the only thing that actually makes sense here is that Jackson is trying to do the best he can to maneuver an already
existing far-right environment in order to get people on a vector
of radicalization toward communism toward Marxism toward our position now what I just said is a mouthful.
What I just said is difficult and takes a lot of intelligence to understand, right?
Apparently it does.
I'm going to painstaking lengths to talk slowly and as simply as I possibly can. I'm not trying to obscure anything. I'm not trying to make it difficult.
Is this really that hard to understand that this doesn't prove Jackson is far right?
It just proves that he's putting himself in far right contexts and environments in order to strategically hijack that kind of rhetoric to push people in the opposite direction.
I think that's really simple.
I think when, in an environment, when the far right is dominating, and the subject are the masses, the subject, you know know are these huge
volumes of people that
find this convincing
they find it cool
that's the most
dangerous thing you know it's like
it's not like this is an ideological
thing where they've adopted this as a
theory they see this and it makes sense to them
and they find it cool. So you have to win them. Now there's a lot of people who live in bubbles on
college campuses and don't think it's important to win this generation that the far right is dominating.
And a lot of leftists will go as far as to say that, well, they're just settlers and there's no hope for them.
So we should just huddle together
in our college campus and
call everyone a fascist bigot.
You can
actually have that position and
present it to me. I think it's stupid. I'll
disagree with it. But you can't say that just
because we reject that view and that we're actually trying to push people into an alternative
pipeline and vector of radicalization, that this means we are responsible for the dominance of the far right ourselves
we are not responsible for the dominance of the far right and for far right ideas that is the
situation and the context that is being forced upon us and everyone else
that we have to work inside. Now, look, let me be very clear about this this was one of the most
inflammatory and offensive things Jackson has ever said
period
you have to weigh this
up against everything else he said and you have to weigh this up against everything else he said and you have to weigh it up against
my appearance on fresh and fit when i was surrounded by women at the time i was in a relationship
so i was being especially tame and, you know, especially professional.
And you have to weigh that against what I said on that podcast and how I behaved.
You have to not present a one-sided picture where you're cherry-picking the most
offensive and inflammatory thing Jackson has ever said and saying that that is the that is the essence of the american communist party you have to
actually have everything you have to present the the full context and let people come to their
own conclusions.
That's not what Brandon did.
Brandon took one of the most offensive and inflammatory things Jackson has ever said,
and he's trying to make it seem like that represents our official ideology or interpretation of Marxism-Leninism.
That's just extremely dishonest.
This is just an extremely manipulative thing to do because you're trying to craft this narrative where people only have so much time to see what this whole thing is about.
And you're just cherry picking these things out of context and falsely presenting these as the essence of everything we believe. There are dozens and dozens and dozens of hours of footage of us streaming, of us appearing on things like this,
and you are going out of your way how do you actually choose a general representation
of what we're about well you should choose the things that actually explain the recurring themes in our
rhetoric choose the things that actually represent not the exception
but the norm this video did not do that as you'll see so i think that covers the entirety of the
the jackson uh bashing he He engages in here. But let's see. so that appears to be one of the founders of the acp espousing views on women which are pretty reprehensible this is a major red flag to say the least the communist movement has historically been feminist and yet hinkle appears to be not no that's not true okay the communist movement has historically been feminist and yet hinkle appears to be not no that's not true okay
the communist movement has not been historically feminist because the word feminism has been routinely denounced and critiqued
by every single communist state um in the 20th century the thinkers of the woman's question rejected feminism as bourgeois feminism as a phenomena was rejected in the Warsaw Act as a bourgeois phenomena that was coming from the West.
Now, did communists maintain a notion of women's equality? Of course they did. But that's not the same as feminism.
Feminism is a very specific
kind of
movement
that does not
intrinsically unite the
woman's struggle with the class struggle
as one in the same thing,
as bounded up as one in the same. And the reason that's
important is because feminism carries a lot more baggage. Feminism, for example, tries to overturn
almost all of the norms of gender relationships and critique those on the basis of the patriarchy or whatever.
Communists rejected that. Communists didn't reject all gender norms. They associated certain habits and cultural norms as part of the capitalist past, sure, for example, prostitution, the sex industry, and so on, and also the notion that women were the property of their husbands and couldn't pursue their own careers. But in general, this is a
terrible, terrible truth, I'm sure, and I can show you the proof right now. Communists also did
associate womanhood with motherhood.
Fundamentally, actually. I can pull up Lenin himself by doing this. So let's see. Lenin
This is his interview with Clara Zetkin,
the woman's question so look at lenin talking about for example what he thinks women should be doing
you know as far as the woman's question and so on and so on and his rejection of this kind of
free love nonsense right so lenin he's kind of here rejecting the um the way the young people are
rejecting all sexual morality he says the youth movement is attacked with the disease of modernity
right um and they can easily contribute to over excitement and exaggeration and sexual life
you must fight against that there are not a few points of contact between the
women's and youth movements. Our women comrades must work together systematically with the youth.
That is a continuation and extension and exaltation of motherliness from the individual to the social sphere.
And all the awakening of social life and activity of women should be encouraged,
so they should be allowed to pursue careers.
They should be allowed to participate in public life.
But even in the way Lenin frames the liberation of women, you know, from the strictly private context of family life to the social sphere, he calls it an extension and exultation of motherliness.
So women can take on motherly roles in social context to help nurture better societal social environments.
Right. So that was the type of rhetoric Lenin used, for example.
That is not a feminist type of rhetoric, okay?
Because according to feminist, that's a patriarchal logic.
You can disagree with Lenin.
That's fine.
You can say Lenin was a product of his time and he was backward and we're more progressive now. I don't care. I have a problem with framing such a notion as inherently reactionary or antithetical with Marxism.
Not just a misogynistic, but a radical, extreme misogynist, and we can assume by the fact that Hinkle remains on the executive
board, and that seemingly no one in the party takes any issue with this,
that this...
Yeah, but how in practice is Jackson a radical misogynistic in practice?
Notice I emphasize that word, in practice.
Evo Morales said that he is the type of feminist who likes to tell sexist jokes. Is he a misogynist?
In terms of policy, he literally calls himself a feminist. Yet on a personal level, he says misogynistic, inflammatory, and offensive things about women. So Jackson clearly has said offensive and inflammatory things about women in his personal capacity.
How does that make him on a social and ideological level a misogynist?
That conflates the principle of politics with personal banter and nonsense. Personal humor, personal
discourse, right? That is mainly done to make yourself more relatable on a parasocial level,
you know, more likable on an individual level as a personality. But when it comes to the
institutional question of the women's question never once has jackson
proposed to us as the executive board that we should advocate for stripping women of their
independent right to vote and the absurdity of this notion reaches its high point upon examination of the fact that if you read our party constitution,
when we are given unlimited power to determine the role of women on an institutional level, which is within our party, what have we done? We have institutionalized an absolute principle of women's equality. practice in practice we have institutionalized the
equality of our women comrades where is the actual misogyny in practice when have in our own party women been discriminated against because they're women but because jackson engaged in inflammatory, unsurious rhetoric, years before the founding of the party, that is somehow misogynistic, that our party as a whole is misogynistic, that is completely warped, bizarre, illogical nonsense.
Just meticulously, think about and break down the chain of reasoning that is being employed by Brandon here.
And you tell me if it holds up to the bare minimal scrutiny of criticism.
This is a permitted opinion in the ACP.
In fact, here's a woman named Slavla Jalili, who is in the Politburo of the ACP, appearing to affirm these views.
She doesn't appear to be bothered by Hinkle's views on women because she seems to largely agree.
So again, these views...
Hold on, but we...
We did not order Slava to say this.
Slava was expressing her personal view.
This is her personal view about women in general.
It's her own.
It's not, where has our party institutionalized this view?
But you know what's crazy?
Even what she said here was the same thing Lenin said right here.
No, not here. That was what i had linked before in his conversation with clara zetkin where he talked
about the exaltation and extension of motherliness from the individual realm to the social realm so this is not the same thing as saying you don't
think women should vote it's not the same thing also slava is allowed to have her own opinion
we didn't restrict slava's ability to voice her views on this question.
Slava is one of our female comrades within the party who is entitled to her own view on the matter.
You're effectively saying that women should not be able to have opinions on women.
I mean, what are you even saying at this point?
In fact, here's a woman named the Slavla Jalili, who is in the Politburo of the ACP, appearing to affirm these views.
She doesn't appear to be bothered by Hinkle's views on women because she seems to largely agree so again these views are entirely accepted within the acp i'll give another example of a these views have no existence within the acp they're not accepted within the party because they don't exist within the ACP. They're not accepted within
the party because they don't exist within the
party. There is no discourse
within the party that
advocates for women to have
less rights than men
on an institutional or political level.
Red flag. This is... on an institutional or political level. Everyone needs to follow me
line by line and carefully.
I don't want to fucking repeat myself ever again.
To do with Eddie Smith of Midwestern marks.
Last year, Smith went on the podcast of the far right online personality, Jake Shields.
Once again, you are blaming us for your failures as a leftist.
Your failure, Hassan Pikes failure, someone like Jake Shields is literally not only someone who has a large following of people
being converted to the far-right ideology. He himself is a textbook example of a normal person
who got converted into this pipeline and this far-right
vector of radicalization, who is also open-minded to us and is giving us a chance to push back
on a lot of the things he believes
and present an alternative vector
of radicalization.
Now,
Jake Shields is not in a fascist
organization. He's not part.
There is no Nazi movement in the U.S. right now.
He's not part of some kind of fascist phenomena that actually exists tangibly within politics.
But you know what?
You know what that means?
That means according to Brandon, we are less guilty than the communist party of
germany because what the communist party of germany used to do is actually send communist
representatives to nazi party meetings to disseminate communist views
among actual Nazis.
And Eddie going on Jake Shields'
podcast is less of a crime than that, because jake shields isn't even part of an actual
fascist organization he's just an m m m fighter who has really far right views so should we just
sit by and allow the vector of radicalization to go in the far right without us intervening in any kind of way and then complaining about how bad and fascist everyone else is or should we make a concentrated effort to actually win people over to our position and provide an alternative vector of radicalization?
Holocaust denier and Nazi sympathizer, and he's pretty open about this, but Smith felt it was fine to go on his podcast for a friendly chat.
When criticized for this, Smith...
No, it's not just a friendly chat, dude.
Eddie is making a concentrated effort to provide an alternative.
And you're not doing that.
And if we don't provide an alternative,
you're going to guarantee the success of the far right.
Red Mays, this is the problem with people who do not study history,
and they don't study the official positions of the common turn,
and they don't study the official positions of the common turn, and they don't study the official positions of communist parties, specifically during the period of the 1930s and 1920s, when fascism was an ascendant phenomenon.
The communist position was absolutely not to ignore the rise of fascist ideology and have a
hands-off view.
It was absolutely to initiate a dialogue, to disobeyed people from fascist ideology, to present
communism as a rightful alternative. The writings of Demetrov, the writings of Ernest
Talman, the writings of Antonio Gr gromsky they all reflect this consistent theme
clara zetkin herself remarking upon the rise of fascism in italy they all write about the
importance of communists to actually counteract fascist propaganda by winning over the masses that are the target audience of the fascists.
And I will actually... I will actually...
I will actually find the...
The quote from Clara Zetkin. Okay. okay so this is this is something called failure of proletarian leadership communist parties are
now without responsibility for the fact that even within the proletariat there are disillusioned people who throw themselves into the arms of fascism these parties have been insufficiently vigorous their initiatives lacking in scope and their penetration of the masses inadequate so this is what she says The petty bourgeois intermediate social forces at first vacillate between the powerful historical camps. When the proletariat has abandoned the goal of carrying revolution further, and it's withdrawing from the battlefield
under the influence of reformist
leaders like Hassan Piker
who tells us to tail the Democrats
out of fear of revolution
and respect for capitalists
at this point the broad fascist masses
find their way to the spot where most of their leaders were constantly or unconsciously from the very start on the side of the bourgeoisie.
What is Clarizetkin saying if we don't go and make a concentrated effort to speak to masses of people who would indeed otherwise go
to fascism, like Jake Shields,
some who even have already,
we have no one to blame but ourselves.
You know, there's a really, really dangerous sentiment that exists among self-proclaimed anti-fascists.
And the dangerous sentiment goes as follows.
If the masses are won over to the far
right, this means the
masses are bad, and we need to
declare war on the masses.
This is an extremely
dangerous line of reasoning.
Because the masses determine
everything.
And if you abandon the fight for this generation and
for the masses,
you are a fascist collaborator
yourself. And that was
actually the common turn position
in the 30s, which regarded Trotskyists who rejected patriotism, who rejected nations, who espoused all manner of antisocial positions that embarrassed the communist movement.
They regarded them as fascist collaborators
who were throwing the masses
into the arms of fascism.
That's what Dimitrov said directly.
And that is what Brandon is doing here in this video.
Complained about cancel culture and said that while he may not agree with all of Jake Shields's views.
He still respect Shields on a personal level.
So thus far, we've seen that extreme...
So what?
How is the personal the same as the political?
The same directly? That's ridiculous you mean to tell me you
don't have family members or co-workers or people in your personal life that have extremely
contemptible political views i'm sorry but you're just not a normal person. You're living in a bubble or a cult where everyone around you is within the range of acceptable views. I'm sorry to tell you, but if you're a working class person in this country, you have coworkers who are flirting with the rehabilitation of Hitler.
Absolutely. You have crazy conspiracy theorists talking about Jews and the Illuminati. And that is the
norm if you're actually in the working class. Even if you just work at a Taco Bell,
there's a guy at Taco Bell
who is sipping lean
and smoking pot
and is talking about
how Hitler was fighting aliens or some shit.
And to claim that you can cancel all of those people
fundamentally excises you from the possibility
of ever, ever being able to relate to people normally.
The misogyny and fraternizing with Nazis are totally allowed within the ACP. I'll give another red flag. This one is...
No, there's no fraternizing with Nazis because Jake Shields is not actually a Nazi,
because he's not part of a Nazi organization or party.
He's not an active Nazi.
He is an MMA fighter who has views that can be called Nazi.
He has opinions and he has an outlook contaminated by the disease of Nazism. Absolutely he does. But to say that he's a Nazi implies he's an active Nazi. It implies politically he's a Nazi. That's not the same thing.
No one is fraternizing with Nazis.
Eddie is trying to relate to him as another MMA fighter to disobeyed him from his far-right
views, to open a new and alternative vector of radicalization you can't
do that if you aren't personable if you're not relatable on a personal level why would anyone
who got sucked into far-right ideology because of ignorance and lack of
education ever, ever dang to even open the possibility of listening to you?
Preemptively declaring war on everyone who's been misled by far-right ideology to be your personal enemy is a recipe for guaranteeing and facilitating the success of far-right ideology i promise you perhaps not as alarming as having
friendly chats with nazis but it's still pretty indicative there's a fake research
collective called rtsg research which is associated with acp and run by Rev Lascarus during it.
How is it associated with ACP?
Again, it's an extremely reckless thing to say.
When has there ever been an official collaboration between the American Communist Party as an institution and RTSG.
Again, I know that for some people, this is too technical, but again, you need to start taking
these distinctions seriously.
When they're saying this about our party,
they're implying that the collective principle of our party organization has somehow been applied or manifested in a way that it has not.
A Twitter argument that as far as not. I own Twitter argument Lascarus tweeted.
I own soups worth more than your monthly rent.
Please put the fries in the bag, bro, which is an odd statement to come from one of the leaders of an allegedly communist party.
Right, but you're missing the context of when he is being called jobless and when he is being accused of being broken jobless by another leftist.
And the pride that Rev is espousing is a working class pride.
Because believe it or not, Rev is a trucker.
And no, he doesn't own his own vehicle either. He's an employee trucker, wage worker, who's being accused of being unemployed to humiliate him and degrade him because of his class position.
So he's lashing out as all working people do when people attempt to humiliate them because of their class status.
So there's nothing odd about his response at all when you actually look at the context, which you very, very conveniently omitted. Isn't that incredible how you omitted that? You omitted the person calling him jobless and broke.
For another red flag flag we can turn to
has his a Twitter account where he pinned a thread which begins with why Marxism is
not woke about okay read the thread and tell me what the red flag is actually
confront the content of my arguments and explain how it proves that there's something
fishy going on rather than everything literally being on the table even in this thread you have a pretty
thorough breakdown of where I'm coming from philosophically. There's
nothing being disguised. There's no suspicious anything. It's all being laid out, out in the
open for anyone curious to see. Why person is very carefully attempting to craft a narrative according to which we are presenting ourselves as normal communists but look at all these fishy things. Clearly something suss is going on.
One, everything we believe is on the surface. We're not hiding anything. Two, you are presuming that you are in a position of authority to know what a normal communist is.
I want to know where that presumption comes from.
Why are you pretending like you would know what communists look like and appear like?
When there has been no communist movement of any
significance in the country you live in for at least five decades before you were born how
would you know what a normal non--sus, non-red-flag communist even looks like?
From what position of authority and experience and knowledge are you coming from?
You're not familiar with the rudiments of Marxist-Leninist classics. You are not familiar with the rudiments of Marxist-Leninist classics, you are not familiar with the
rudiments of the actual history of the Communist Party USA, which I'll get into as the video progresses.
You're not familiar with any of these things,
and yet you're speaking from a position of pretension and authority,
as if I know what real communism is,
I know what real communist movements look like,
and compared to that, this is very suss.
Wait a second, that baseline presumption that you have knowledge and you are familiar with what ordinary communists are like needs to undergo a little bit of scrutiny.
Where is that coming from? Above a long, opaque manifesto, where Haas explains his interpretation of Marxist theory.
Throughout this thread, Haas cites the Russian philosopher Alexander Duggan.
This is very curious because Dugan, who I'll be talking more about later, is a...
Hold on.
This is literally a logical fallacy.
It's not curious if you're not even reading what I say
or write about Dugan. Why am I
citing him? I provide reasoning
for that, Brandon. Why are you
not interrogating the meticulous
well-crafted reasoning
I employ, and instead pulling up his Wikipedia and saying, this is really strange, but you're not even deigning to make an effort to understand in what way I cite him.
There's something really illogical and pathological about that.
This is this guy and his name and his face,
and a bunch of lies Wikipedia says about him.
Therefore, something such is going on.
I have read Dugan myself, though.
I cite Dugan's ideas.
I very specifically talk about in what ways Dugan has relevance in that thread.
You don't interrogate with any of that.
You just pull up his Wikipedia page, which, again, midwit bystanders coming across this video might find compelling.
But again, it's not a position that is a result of the use of reason.
It's extremely pathological
far right philosopher now i don't think it's wrong to read and engage with a right
why are you not read why are you reading wikipedia when the subject in contention is my views and my interpretation of Marxism. Instead of reading me directly,
where you're not even clicking any of these things, you're just scrolling past it and dismissing it because why, I mentioned someone's name, and therefore all of the bad associations you have
with that name are justified and you can apply them to me and i can somehow be accused of of
being a fascist because of your ignorance you haven't even read a fucking word of Dugan in your life.
I can almost guarantee that, by the way.
You've never opened one of his books and actually read them.
Where is the presumptuousness that you are an authority on Dugan coming from?
Because you've read his Wikipedia.
But Hise does more than that. Hise utterly adores Dugan, and so does Jackson Hinkle.
He also adores Dugan.
Again, you just pulled up a thread where I very painstakingly elaborate upon what Dugan's relevance is for Marxism, according to me.
And instead of engaging with that in any kind of way, you accuse me of this nebulous adoration of Dugin, resorting to personal terms rather than a principled theoretical breakdown or theoretical critique.
Why are two leaders of the American Communist Party such a big fans of...
I don't know why wow
why it's such a big
mystery if only there wasn't
something penned on
Haas's fucking Twitter profile
that you just
fucking pulled up
that would fucking explain it.
What a big fucking mystery,
right?
If only I didn't have
talents of fucking hours
of lectures, plus
something you just
fucking pulled up
fucking explaining it.
What a big fucking mystery.
You're fucking idiot. I want to know.
I want to know how a single person doesn't get triggered like I do watching
shit like this. How is the
blatant lack of
thought and conscious awareness
and the bare
minimum effort
to use your skills of reasoning.
How is that not so blatantly evident to bystanders?
99% of the people watching this video
are doing so while high on marijuana
with no fucking awareness at all
of what this guy's even saying.
How is it not so blatantly obvious?
How fucking stupid it is?
I literally break down theoretically
Dugan significance and why I think he's an important
thinker, and this guy's making it seem like it's some secret mystery that could only be explained
by this notion that I'm secretly a fascist.
I've written about it on my substack. I've gone into various lectures about it. I fucking explained it in the very thread he pulled up, proving that he was at least familiar with the fact that I made an effort to explain it?
Why is he treating it like some secret mystery that I'm hiding from the world?
But my anger comes from the fact that I'm the only one who gets angry about it.
I just wish people were not cattle, retarded, brain dead, worthless cattle, and they could actually have the skills and the discernment to actually see how stupid this guy's line of argumentation is.
But I'm the only one who sees it for some reason. And I'm sick of being the only angry guy in the
room. I just want someone to be
1% as angry as I am
towards stupidity like this,
and you will see how much that does
wonders for my fucking
mental health and my ability
to take a fucking chill pill.
A far-right philosopher, and I'll give yet another red flag back in December of ability to take a fucking chill pill. lack of formal platform this is a bit curious a platform is kind of important and this only further fueled the suspicions of ACP's ideological character brandon the inceptual premise of a party and a collective
organization isn't actually a platform it's actually a commitment to collective discipline on the basis of the construction of a party for the working class there's nothing suspicious about the fact that we didn't officiate our program until months
after the launch of the party.
Given the fact that we were a reconstitution of the CPUSA, that we were a nascent party that had declared and announced its existence and the simple
and obvious fact that the square one premise of a communist party isn't actually having a
readily made platform but having
the bare minimum of a commitment
to build an organization
for the working class.
It's practical commitment that's the
foundation of a party. Not a
platform. You don't. Not a platform.
You don't begin with the platform.
Platforms are adopted.
Programs are adopted very early on.
But they are not the foundation of an organization at all.
And they never have been in history.
If the ACP were to theoretically come to power in America, what would they actually do?
What are their policies?
What is their program?
Has to sought to dispel all the naysayers?
Presenting a platform which overall seems actually pretty decent.
Cancel all debts.
Universal health care and education and housing.
Ending U.S. imperialism.
This is the stuff you would expect. Right, but that doesn't matter.
What matters is
is, um,
what, what matters is
Lyndon LaRouche, right? Not what
we actually say and how we actually
I just
want to know this.
If ACP is lying about what it is, why are you assuming that in all of the cases where you're trying to cancel us that we're telling the truth?
Like, for example, if you find me a clip praising one of, that LaRouche was great at making up policies,
why aren't I lying there? How do you know what's the truth and what's not the truth?
Whatever just conveniently fits your narrative? Think about the line of argumentation here. Think about the actual claim being
made and the premise is necessary to prove that claim. You are saying that we're lying about who we are.
How do you pick and choose who's telling the truth? Again, the idea we're
fascists in disguise, lying about who we are, and adopting a communist disguise doesn't make
any sense because it's a really shitty disguise. And the circumstances in the context we're living
in do not lend themselves to that disguise getting us anywhere
a communist or socialist party program well i guess we were wrong it turns out the acp is a
genuine communist party we were just being hysterical no that's literally the truth that is literally the truth. That is actually the truth.
It is going to be incredible to witness the mental gymnastics of this person, trying to
deny this just self-evident and basic reality.
Wait, let's take a look at the description.
So far, everything seems good, but then, well, what's this?
Promote American civilization, reconstitute the USA into one United Republic.
What exactly does this mean here?
What does it mean?
If only there was a fucking speech up where you could click the timestamp and learn about what it means.
If only we actually had a program on our website that actually explains what that means.
Again, this guy is like
pretending to be like Scooby-Doo.
Like he's, he's some kind of like,
like investigative
journalists, pretending that some kind of like, like investigative journalists
pretending that things are
mysteries that are not mysteries.
I would love to see
what interpretation he put,
he's just relying on,
which is true, it's just relying on, which is true,
it's just the sad truth. Most people are not
going to go to ACP.us slash program.
Most people are not going to find this video
and click the timestamp for themselves.
They're just going to lazily sit back, smoke pot,
eat Dorito chips, and take
whatever this guy says at face value, because it's just
convenient for them. Because they want to believe whatever he has to say.
Haas it makes a curious reference to Canada.
We all love our country, which we know as the United States of America, though some of you live in Canada. A curious reference. What's the point of getting angry?
What's the point? point. It's also tiresome.
It's also tiresome.
Yeah, it is.
It is.
Curious reference.
Very curious.
Very curious.
Very curious.
very curious it's like something we're trying to hide.
It's really like a little suss.
It's a clue.
It's like he's a detective and that was just a clue.
And he's uncovering something.
Right?
Where we say in our Constitution that the territory encompassed by the United States and Canada is one nation and we are the party,
the legitimate Communist Party within that territory,
and it's in our Constitution.
And he thinks it's curious.
He had to find this remark that everyone understood because of our overt commitment to building one communist party that encompasses Canada and the USA.
And he's trying to make it seem like we're concealing some secret
LaRouche
Yeah like we're all
double agents and we're all like
We're all going home as
LaRue uh
we take off our ACP hat and we go to the
fucking Schiller Institute
and like oh we, I'm giving a wink at all my fellow LaRushites.
Instead of just espousing an overt, explicit position, we publicly committed to even before this convention.
We all love our country, which we know as the United States of America, though some of you live in Canada.
Laughter.
In another event held a month later where the Constitution of the... Wasn't a month later.
It was the same day.
Whatever.
ACP was adopted.
Another curious reference
to Canada is made.
There's nothing curious about it.
There's nothing curious about it.
If you actually followed up
with the launch
of the ACP
and if you were, if you did
your due diligence to be just a little bit
familiar with what we have said
constantly publicly. There is
nothing curious about this. Our position is
absolutely clear, crystal clear.
Constitution recognizes one communist party within the territory currently occupied by the United States and Canada.
And at another event last year, the podium of which Haas gives his speech shows a map of what is presumably supposed to be this future ACP governed America.
And you'll know.
The event by the Institute for Free America america which is not the acp this is an acp logo since when the
acp didn't exist during this event again it's like if you're going to make a hit piece so meticulously researched, apparently, you're pretending like that.
It's these little details that you get wrong that just discredit everything.
Notice that it includes both the United States and Canada and over on Twitter,
Jackson Hinkle has made statements like,
The War to Liberate Canada will not be a war on the people of Canada.
It will be a war to liberate Canada from the British globalists,
and Manifest Destiny is not complete until the U.S. liberates Canada.
And why are we spending so much money on Ukraine when we can so easily complete
manifest destiny and liberate Canada.
I'm sure many of you are already familiar.
Okay.
And I'm sure all the J.D. Pondon memes
and all of that is like an official position by an organization
when someone fucking... and like people will get
confused because like what do you mean it's a meme like you're saying he there is nothing serious
about it no there obviously is a real kernel of seriousness but the idea that Jackson is officially
trying to give expression to a literal call for war
instead of expressing the sentiment
that as a matter of fact Canada is part of the British Commonwealth
and instead of attacking Russia
and attacking China we should look
more inwards I guess
it's a rhetorical
expression that is meant
to serve the purpose
of
rejecting the vestiges of
colonialism
fundamentally
and to rhetorically
give more strength
to the anti-imperialist position
familiar with the concept of manifest destiny but for those who don't know manifest destiny refers to the anti-imperialist position. so it's very strange that a founder of the american communist party is citing manifest destiny as a justification to invade canada
hold on again i just want us to be crystal clear about the record of history okay i don't care what your views on manifest destiny are
make them whatever you want them to be
but don't say it's curious
for
a founding member of the american communist party to cite it approvingly
when it was the standard marxist position
always that it was historically progressive not just by carl marks himself not just by frederick angles
not just by lenin not just by the c, not just by the CPUSA from day one, but it was a standard communist
position. You are free to critique that position. I'm not limiting your freedom to deviate from that
standard position. I am limiting
your freedom, Brandon,
to somehow say it is bizarre
or out of the ordinary for a Marxist
or a communist.
To have that viewpoint
or express that viewpoint.
And moreover, to apply that rhetoric toward Canada, which is not an indigenous nation, is not strange at all.
It's a skillful employment of American
patriotic rhetoric to
promote division within the imperialist
camp, you fucking idiot.
Of spreading American
civilization and completing manifest destiny and award
to liberate. No, you're
mixing up a lot of different things okay let's read what the
thing about american civilization is let's just get into it.
So look, this is what we say about American civilization.
It has nothing to do with Jackson's tweets that he made a year before the party was launched about manifest destiny on Canada.
What it says is we want to discover and cultivate a national continental American culture on the basis of its unique history, geography, and ethnic makeup.
We want to promote language, autonomy, and economic development for the American tribes. And we want to unify the nation across all racial antagonisms. We want one unified American identity, and we want to
overcome racial division. so that's what
that's what that means
but you're conflating
that with Jackson's tweets
about Canada and Manifest Destiny
completely separate
things
wow fuck completely separate things. Wow.
Fuck.
Fuck.
Am I unreasonable?
Am I unreasonable, guys?
Or is this fucking crazy that I have to do this?
And it's not self-evident to people because they're too fucking lazy to investigate it takes two fucking seconds and i gotta fucking do this
Canada makes it sound like the ACP isn't necessarily talking about a peaceful, consensual unification of the U.S. and Canada.
It sounds like they're saying that Canada will be part of... What is the ACP said about any kind of unification between the U.S. and Canada, if only the party has
articulated an official public position on the matter, if only. If only it did right if only it did right if only it did. Here is what we actually have communicated on the question of Panama.
So statement on Trump and Panama, December 25th, 2024 when it was released.
And here is what we released on our X account on the question of Canada.
With respect to Trump's comments on Canada and Greenland, the party would like to take special attention to the complexity surrounding the issue.
Canada, a member of the British Commonwealth, has long been a bulwark of Atlantisist reaction
and has exerted a reactionary influence upon the development of the United States. Standard Marxist
position for Frederick Engels, who regarded Canada as a reactionary bulwark, standard position for American
communists, like William Z. Foster, who was the son of Fenians, if you don't know who Fenians
were. They were Irish people who went up and fought the British in Canada and wanted to have Canada and the USA be one United Republic, which was a standard American position actually for a long time before the turn of the, sorry, before the mid-century of the 20th century.
It has long been the aspiration of the American revolutionary tradition,
as well as the view of Marx and Engels themselves,
for Canada to be included in the United States.
That is very true.
However, it is necessary to consider carefully the conditions under which such an annexation would take place.
Any violation of the sovereignty of any people anywhere is simultaneously a violation of the sovereignty of the American people themselves.
The same apparatuses of imperial and neocolonial control,
which bypassed democratic constitution and sovereign legitimation,
will and have inevitably been applied to the American people themselves.
We reject any pretext for the U.S. regime to expand its powers beyond those enumerated by the Constitution.
If it deepens the rift between his administration and NATO, we remain open to the possibility that such developments might have progressive significance because we support the aim of exiting from NATO.
So that's what we communicated. So that is a far cry from the claim this guy's making that we're calling as a party
for some kind of forceful reunification.
Now, if we have expressed rhetoric before the founding of the party, or even if non-party people who are affiliated or sympathetic to our party, I should rather say, have expressed that.
What we have always imagined or foreseen is that if a revolutionary situation breaks out in the USA, then Canada will be a launching pad for NATO and the British Commonwealth and the forces of the international capitalist class to regain the USA lost by a victorious proletarian revolution.
And under those circumstances, an american revolution would become a
revolutionary war of context where yes canada would be forcefully annexed and conquered because it has
lost any right of sovereignty because it engaged in aggression against the USA.
But never do we just simply say that we want to just invade Canada and forcefully take it, unless it's like a meme.
Nobody seriously, in any official kind of serious way endorses that view how the fuck am i at two thousand views of the u.s whether or not the canadians want it the idea of annexing can Canada is an old American imperial goal. The continental army
attempted and failed to conquer Canada in the Revolutionary
War and the U.S.
Oh, so you're saying
it didn't start with LaRouche?
It's to try it again and failed during the War of 1812.
And since then, there have been no serious attempts to annex Canada
and not that much talk
about it the idea that is not true the fact the idea that there was no talk okay look what he
just said there was no serious talk about it all right 1888. This is what Engels said in 1888 in a letter to Sorge.
In 10 years sleepy Canada will be ripe for annexation the farmers will demand it themselves the country's already half annex socially it will abolish this ridiculous boundary
line, and when
time comes, John Bull will say amen to this
matter.
The first Google result for supposedly unsurious notion right i guess angles was a
larusheite i guess that was a larusciate thing angle i guess larusch took a
fucking time machine and made Engels have that sentiment.
Or why don't you just put two and two together? If you're a Marxist committed to the American revolutionary tradition, and you are trying to deepen that tradition, you're probably going to have to come to terms with the fact that our northern neighbor is still a member of the British Commonwealth which is
symbolically at the very least symbolically a signification
that the revolution was unfinished and the notion that the American
Revolution was unfinished has always been championed
and promoted by progressive and revolutionary forces in this country including m lk
however was recently revived by donald trump in his attempts to return to 19th century-style American imperialism, and the ACP appears to agree. So now we have...
It's not our fault that Trump started saying this. You know, we had to clarify our position in the midst of Trump's rhetoric because we said it first
we talked about Canada years and years ago the party's position of a one nation Canada and the USA
predated as far as we know Trump's rhetoric on this matter.
It wasn't until later in the year that we started hearing Trump say this.
And I want to finally say there's nothing like
chauvinistic about what we're saying
A, because Canada is not a victim
of anything, okay?
Just shut the fuck up for one second
and stop treating fucking Canada
as a third world country
victim of predation.
But even if it was, that's not even our position.
So it's inapplicable, even if it was.
For the very, very simple reason, and it's very, very simple,
that we call for the
reconstitution of the USA,
which means one
United Republic, encompassing
Canada and the USA
that reflects the popular
sovereignty of the peoples of both
of those countries.
So it is not an extension of the USA
onto Canada. It is actually
a reconstitution of the USA in order to bring in Canada effectively,
which means it's two people separated by what Engels called a ridiculous boundary coming together to renegotiate democratically the circumstances under which we would be a united country.
That is not the same thing as annexing Canada as the USA because we don't believe
the USA will survive for very
long. It's in our constitution that we
anticipate the USA will
face certain
reconstitution and
dissolution and reconstitution. It's in our
declaration that we believe that.
Extreme misogyny, socializing
with Nazis, flaunting wealth and mocking the poor,
citing far-right philosophers, and calls for
territorial conquest. So after what
I said, every point by
point, every single accusation
he makes there.
This is why the narrative
he's spinning has been so compelling
for people apparently. Because they
missed, they missed
the fact that every single thing he
just said lacks any substantive
basis. And I very meticulously, very thoroughly,
not just, not just dismantled it, but providing so many different kinds of devil's advocates generously and
charitably in his favor from every which fucking way I completely dismantled the
premises that serve as the basis for the claim he just accused us of point by point so again if you miss it
teen century style american imping the poor cp appears to agree so now we have extreme misogyny
okay extreme misogyny debunked socializing with nazis socializing with. Debunked. Socializing with Nazis.
Socializing with Nazis.
Debunked.
Flanting wealth and mocking the poor.
Wanting wealth and mocking the poor.
Debunked.
Far right philosophers.
Defunct.
And calls for territorial conquest. Calls for territorial conquest. Debunked and calls for territorial conquest calls for territorial conquest debunked none of
these five things characterize anything to do with our party none of these five things he just
accused us of have anything to do with our party.
These are all accepted within the American Communist Party. Again, all
five of what he just said.
I took two hours to dismantle.
And every
single person who watched this video, this is the scary thing.
Because, you know, they say 99% of people aren't even consciously aware and have no inner monologue.
I don't know if that's true.
But it's like 99% of the people who watch this video, they missed that. They were zoning out for 17 minutes, up to the point he listed those five things, and it flew over their head how every single one of these accusations is not rooted in reality. It's not rooted in fact.
It's fundamentally illogical and inconsistent
with any kind of good faith representation of our views.
And that flew over people's head.
And they wouldn't have caught it if I didn't point it out.
That's what I find really fucking scary.
That's what I find really fucking insane.
Like, if I didn't point it out as meticulously and painstakingly
and as thoroughly as I fucking did,
it would have flew over people's fucking head.
That's really fucking scary.
It's like, really scary how
fucking stupid people are.
This is all a very strange,
and it gets even stranger. I want to now turn
into this speech by Haas. This speech is titled The Occupied States of America, and it gets even stranger. I want to now turn to this speech by Haas.
This speech is titled,
The Occupied States of America,
and offers a direct explanation of the Maga-Communist Worldview,
since the ACP proclaimed itself to not only be Marxist-Leninist,
but the one in true authentic...
Direct explanation for the Maga Communist worldview.
To do that, let's look at Haas' speech for the Institute of Free America.
Let's not read his actual 12,000 word substack called the rise of Maga communism.
Let's not do that. Let's watch his speech delivered the occupied states of America.
Let's watch that to get to the real meat and potatoes of the theory and philosophy underlying this worldview.
Okay.
I'm the unreasonable crazy Arab for yelling and losing my cool and losing my temper.
But you want to know what?
Anyone who watches this and doesn't get pissed, you are
a cuckold for not
having the discernment or
sensitivity to realize how
fucking stupid and retarded what
this guy says is.
You're a fucking cuck for not seeing it,
for letting it fly under your radar.
You are a
cuck of the intellect
that you just allow this
to be said without the discernment to see how profoundly fucking dishonest and stupid it is.
You would think that this speech elucidates the principles of Marxism-Leninism.
Right?
Well, let's take a look.
Okay, hold on. Wait, wait a second. Wait a second. I gave a speech called the occupied states of America
to talk about how America has lost its sovereignty, to talk about how we don't have any popular
sovereignty, and how the U.S. has been usurped by an oligarchical elite for almost
100 years that is actually occupying our country.
You'd think you would talk about the principles of Marxism, Leninism.
If I gave a speech about Palestine and I talked about the details of the Zionist occupation of Palestine, is it curious that I'm not devoting the entirety of my speech to introducing people to Marxism-Leninism. You will find in my
speech a consistent reflection of Marxist-Leninist principles, but that is not the subject matter of my
speech. So if the subject matter of my speech is not directly about introducing people to Marxist Lenin's theory, is that somehow curious? Is that somehow strange?
Thank you, Sleeper So. You know what I'm getting sick of? I'm getting sick of retards in my fucking chat who are talking about pestle mime.
Instead of paying attention. Because you know what it's telling me? It's telling me that I'm talking and speaking in vain. Why am I fucking doing this if you're not going to pay attention? I don't want to keep repeating myself because I spend hours going into fucking meticulous detail, giving you the tools
to disarm these fucking retards who attack us.
And instead of listening and paying attention, you sit back and smoke pot and eat Doritos.
And then three months from now, some new retard will release a fucking video recycling shit I fucking responded
to
dozens and dozens of times
and you'll put it in my show request and ping me
you're fucking ping me
Haas
you got to respond to thisas. You got to respond to this, Haas.
You got to respond.
Haas, look what they're saying.
That's what you did for this fucking retarded video.
Because you don't fucking pay attention.
You don't pay attention to what I say.
If you pay attention, you know what I'm saying here.
I've said dozens and dozens
and dozens and dozens of fucking times
over hundreds and hundreds of
fucking hours.
Fucking idiot. And, uh, fucking idiot and uh eventually in the aftermath of the civil war almost every aspect of economic life became dependent actually on banking cartels the law of monopoly of the aggregation of various interests industries and forms of property gave rise summarize what i just. He said it was curious.
You would think that if he's giving a speech,
that it would be about Marxist-Lennonist principles.
Summarize my response to that.
So I know that you're listening. okay one person got it. Congratulations. One person got it.
It's not the subject matter of the speech.
You can be a Marxist Leninist
and talk about specific subject matters.
And that's not curious. That's not strange. that's not curious.
That's not strange.
That's not bizarre.
You're talking about something very concrete and specific.
Not every fucking speech you give is an introductory course on Marxism-Leninism. If my speech was about Palestine, which in part it was, but if it was entirely devoted to the topic of Palestine, it doesn't make me less of a Marxist-Leninist to talk about something very specifically happening now or in history.
...byes to the rise of centralization of banks and banking systems.
And these banking cartels rather than markets were given total control over the successor failure of industrial and commercial ventures.
See, a group of the wealthiest private bankers, led by J.P. Morgan, all decided that they were
going to seize control of the reins of the economy.
They were seizing control of the manufacturing, the transportation, the mining, the telecommunicate.
Okay, but that is an actual matter of historical fact.
If you want to challenge the veracity of what I'm saying on a historical level, feel free to do so.
But let's see what Brandon does in response to what I say.
The financial markets.
I should also add some added context here.
This cartel of bankers, this cartel of monopolists, these weren't just wealthy Americans.
These were people who had extensive relationships, blood ties, and even marriages with the British oligarchy, with the...
Which is true. Okay.
Carol Quigley wrote a book called the Anglo-American Establishment. American establishment.
It's on archive.org.
It's right here.
Carol Quigley, the Anglo-American establishment. It's right here. And they go into detail about this.
It's not a conspiracy theory.
Now, you can say, oh, is it bizarre for a Marxist Leninist to talk about facts?
Is it bizarre for a Marxist Leninist to talk about facts?
What did Lenin say about facts?
What did Mao say about facts?
Is it bizarre to just talk about facts instead of just abstract doctrine and talk about specific facts about the world? Is that bizarre? Is that strange for a Marxist-Leninist?
Or is that fucking standard?
You fucking idiot!
Powers of old Europe.
But according to him, it was a goal of his elite.
He even formed a secret society toward that aim of recovering the United States of America as an integral part of the British Empire.
Now, they haven't done that formally speaking, but in terms of the complete co-option of our institutions, in everything but name, seems like it was pretty successful.
Now, if you understand anything about the ideas of the Marxism, it's plainly clear that this is notO, is that Marxism?
Scratch that.
Please scratch that. Scratch that. Please scratch that.
Scratch that. Is this Marxism?
Is this Marxism?
Is this Marxism?
Is a concrete analysis?
Marxism?
Or is Marxism just the reproduction of an abstract doctrine, over an abstract mathematical formula that is not actually concretely applied in the analysis of reality what is marxism is Is Marxism concrete?
For Marxism to have meaning, does it need to be concretely applied?
Or does it suffice
to reproduce what Breadtube told
you? Some abstract thing about
the relationships of production
where the capitalists own it and the wage earners. Yeah, sure,
but concretely apply that in the investigation of reality to see what that actually means in reality.
Does it just mean taking empirical phenomena and shoehornning them in your pre-given definitions and conceptual framework?
Or does it mean concretely tracing the development of the capitalist class?
Just as Lenin did in a little fascist book a fascist nazi book lennon wrote called imperialism the highest stage of capitalism Amila with the 10, thank you. M.F. Poppers with the two, thank you. this is called for the abolition of capitalism which is based upon the exploitation of the That's true abstractly, but what does it translate into concretely?
It's almost like there's an entire history of this. I'm real close to MS. Paine. Just let's wait.
The working class by the capitalist class. But Haize doesn't really talk about class struggle. He talks about a quote British financial cabal
ruling a man
KMF with the five
thanks.
We're going to roll that back
just so the editors
have an easier time.
Let's roll it back.
But Hise doesn't really talk about class struggle. He talks about a quote British financial your time. To roll it back. But Haas
doesn't really
talk about class struggle.
He talks about a quote
British financial cabal
ruling a man. Haas doesn't talk about class struggle.
He just talks about the concrete form of a class that rules the country at the expense of other classes,
like the working class.
That's not, he's not talking about class struggle.
He's just talking about a capitalist financial elite.
That's totally not related to class struggle, okay?
The capitalist class is irrelevant to class struggle.
Class struggle is about
slogans
that reproduce abstract slogans.
That's class struggle.
Not talking about the actual
historically constituted capitalist class,
the actual one, no, which Carol Quigley called the Anglo-American establishment, which was overwhelmingly...
All right, I'm going to get into MSPain. I'm just going to give this more of a chance.
America.
He doesn't talk in terms of the capitalist class, ruling over the wording class.
In fact, he seems to...
No, but that's exactly what I talked about in that speech.
Even though I didn't have to, because it's not always the subject matter of every topic.
That is a matter of fact, exactly what I talk to.
I just talked about it concretely and in concrete terms. I talked about the specific development
of monopoly capital in the USA. A very specific and concrete analysis sure but it's a concrete understanding of class struggle and its evolution
not an abstract one it's a very very simple distinction i'm making central to anyone who's familiar with the rudiments of
Marxism. He seems to suggest that clash struggle is actually a manner declaring that this cabal oppresses americans across class and he seems to I wish someone in real life would look me in the eyes and say this.
It will never happen.
No one will ever have the audacity to embarrass themselves with a shame of saying such stupid, mindless things in front of me.
They will nervous, they will get scared.
Not of me physically that I'm going to do something.
They will get scared to utter such a stupid thing to an actual person in person.
How do you have such a lack of shame to say such a stupid thing that i reject class struggle because i am trying to explain
and specify the concrete development of the capitalist ruling class,
which does indeed suppress all other classes below it.
That doesn't make class struggle irrelevant because only the proletarian class can defeat that
class, which I make pretty clear consistently.
All the time.
We even launched a party. can you believe it which which officiates that that view that only the working class united can challenge the
ruling imperialist monopoly capitalist class the working class, United, can challenge the ruling
imperialist, monopoly, capitalist
class, the standard position of the
CPUSA for nearly 100 years.
Wow.
This fucking lack of education
is
very sad.
Forgive me for being angry and frustrated.
I'm so irrational.
That's really the problem. I'm just irrational.
Hitlerite ideology is on the rise.
There is an immense gap in education as far as the layman and the history and the theory of Marxism and Leninism.
And this guy is reinforcing that ignorance and stupidity and spreading it on a mass scale and aiding and collaborating with fascism.
I'm here in my fucking studio yelling.
In vain, that's the truth, in vain. How can we close the gap? How do we educate people about Marxism and Leninism?
How do we do that if they're shouting and screaming at us?
On the one hand, the right is screaming that we're Jews, and on the other hand, these
people are screaming at us that were Lyndon-Lerush Nazis.
Where's the curiosity to learn?
Nobody wants to learn anything, and that's the problem.
And that's what makes me depressed, to be honest.
Nobody actually wants to learn.
They just want their existing wrong worldview to be reinforced somehow and confirmed.
And there's no room for learning something new.
Very few people can stomach their pride and accept the fact that there are things they need to learn.
That puts us in a really
fucked up position. Because our position
hinges upon and depends upon the willingness
of people to be educated.
That's really
fucking fucked up.
All I can say is everybody needs to fucking double triple quadruple down on that
very aggressively fucking push the
door and fucking force people to learn
humiliate them for their
ignorance
give them a fuck humiliate them for their ignorance.
Give them a fucking incentive to need to fucking learn.
Because if we don't fucking do that, we'll be crushed by the right.
And we are being crushed by them. It's the simple truth.
To suggest that clash trouble is actually a distraction.
40% of your personal income taxes, I didn't know this until a few years ago, it actually shocked me.
It doesn't go to welfare queens. It doesn't even go to corporations not paying their fair share,
whatever Bernie Sanders says. 40% of your
personal income tax goes to paying interest on the national debt.
They have us fighting each other about, oh, well, if you're a little
more rich, you should be paying more. Oh, it's these welfare queens.
responsible for our high taxes. How is nobody talking about the fact that nearly
half of every dollar that we pay? So the premise, the claim he makes, is that I say that class differences don't matter because of what I just said here.
I just want to take a pulse and test my audience's level of literacy on Marxism.
Does anyone see the problem with that, the line of argumentation he makes there?
Does anyone see the problem?
And can you just very briefly in one sentence point that out?
Not seeing it so far.
Does anyone see what's wrong with what he just said?
Or only me.
Only I get angry about these things.
Nobody gets it.
That's okay.
That's okay.
I got to fucking hold everyone's hand for all eternity. Because no one wants to fucking educate themselves or listen or think
okay i'll give you a very very um simple hint because hint
because it flew over all of your heads
you see my frustration that like I'm the only fucking person who gets angry about
this shit and has the discernment
yes one person
fucking got it. Wow!
Holy fuck!
Holy fuck! One guy got it!
Red Polaris!
How do I reward this fucking guy?
How do I make him like VIP?
Because I'm losing my mind here.
Like I'm losing my mind.
Like I'm straight up losing my fucking mind about to crash out.
Yes.
According to Marxism, class is not defined by relative differences in wealth. That is not how class is defined. That is Bernie Sanders' or Democrats or liberals definition of class. Even among the working class,
there are relative differences
in income and wealth.
Just because someone is wealthy
and rich doesn't make them
qualitatively part of a different class.
Class is not defined by wealth.
Class is defined by your relationship to the means of production.
The problem is, in our society of extreme concentration of capital and monopoly capital in particular, even people who are entrepreneurs
don't really own their means of production. Financial capital owns almost everything in actual
practice.
And people who are rich and make more money just tend to be the people that are higher on the corporate ladder or the ladder of salaries and professions or they're even given benefits of all kinds but the actual ownership of the
means of production as I outline in this video is concentrated in very very very very small hands
so class struggle is not about relative differences in wealth among people who are
outside of the financial elite.
So to say that what I just said means I'm saying class differences don't matter is absurd because the definition of class within Marxism isn't wealth.
It is going to literally nothing, right? It's going to the humiliation of us as a country and as a people.
And Haas repeats this theme over and over. In a Twitter thread from 2023z says that mega communists oppose private property which you would expect for communists
communists have always opposed private property though that term can be confusing and misleading
historically private property referred specifically to a social relationship where a private owner
takes possession of property which is Why don't we read what Mark said about private property, you know?
Because the early Marx writes a lot about what private property actually is, and the alienation that is a prerequisite for the institution of private property.
This is an extremely nebulous and vague definition right here.
It's worked on by others. vague definition right here. It doesn't refer to your toothbrush or television, which are personal property, but rather
productive assets like machinery and tools or land from which rent can be extracted. Essentially,
it refers to the private ownership of capital and land, something which communists want
to abolish in favor of public ownership.
Ha says that mega communists want to abhor I'm just curious because I've read the Communist Manifesto and none of the 10 planks of the Communist Manifesto directly say we're just going to abolish private property right away.
Because the idea of the dissolution of private property as an institution is regarded as a
long-term consequence of the proletarian dictatorship, not a policy, not a voluntary thing that's done to just abolish it.
Private property is regarded as a factor of civil society,
whose conditions and premises are being undermined by the development of capitalism itself.
And that's why socialism and its victory is being anticipated as an inevitability of history.
abolish a private property, but his definition of a private property is a little different, as he says.
Why is it different?
Let's see, why is it different let's see why is it different
because i actually give a definition that gets to the core essence of what private property
is the essence of private property an essence which has reaches its fullest fullest culmination and development if we are living in late capitalism which is on the cusp of the disillusion of that mode of production everyone dreams of getting rich but it is because you want to use that wealth for a specific reason.
Yeah, I'm speaking in relatable language here, by the way, which is very effective and which is very useful.
It does a lot to actually dispel the fears and the fear-mongering surrounding what communists mean by abolishing private property. Because as you can
recall, if you're actually familiar with Marx's works, Marx talks about this in private property
and communism in 1844, where he's disoading this idea that communism is just aggregating everything into one one thing owned by everyone and he's saying no this is missing the point so the relationship between personal ownership and personal dreams even that have any kind of human significance at all, really, have to be carefully distinguished from the essence of what private property is as an institution. Because for for marks private property is a fundamentally
anti-social anti-human institution of alienation at its essence that's what it is at its
essence all all relationships of production are contaminated by the institution of private property under
capitalism but what the essence of private property itself is is not exactly clear to people
and the notion that private property refers to the thin line and distinction between your life activity as an individual and other people is really misleading.
Because, you know, the problem in America is that most people associate private property with what?
Signs on people's lawns that say private property. That's the thin line that gives you privacy. Private property is associated with individual privacy or the privacy of goals and aspirations and so on and so on of individuals. So abolishing private property just means for most people, it's a free for all where everyone has immediate access to everything. And Marx
in private property and communism calls this crude communism and he rejects that notion and i actually get to the essence of what
private property is on a yacht or a luxurious mansion a nice car etc but private property in the
form of capital is not any substantive real wealth but money for money that is absolutely true
if you read marx's capital that's literally what it is m c m prime literally just leads to m m prime that's the essence of capital
in its developed form,
M.M. Prime.
As we can see today with a fiat currency
and the outrageous speculations of the financial class,
money has ceased to represent any real wealth at all.
But it takes the form of power.
Power the banksters are using to implement their
great reset agenda to enslave entire nations
what is what is not true about that you see how they always say that oh the rhetoric sounds like
xyz instead of it instead of actually addressing the content of what i say, whether it's true or not, because this is actually true.
When a private cartel of banks, the Treasury has the power to set interest rates and effectively use money as a political tool, this represents how capital has been so
far divorced from its actual
earthly premises, which is a process
Marx actually describes and
anticipates in the writing of Capital
Volume 3, if you read it.
Communists do not
oppose wealth.
They oppose the institution of a private property, which subjugates the entire economy to an institution which is completely anti-social,
anti-human, anti-civilizational, and in fact, anti-wealth.
It's like, this is like literally the most concise
summary of what Marx says about private property. That private
property even, you know who writes about this is Marx directly? When he writes about the irony
of the miser. And let me try to find it actually let's actually um i don't this is not even where it is but this balma's greed after riches
this passionate chase is common to the capitalist
and the miser.
While the miser is merely a capitalist gone mad, the capitalist is a rational miser.
But Marx actually gets into a very intelligent argument.
I think it's in his early writings,. I think it's in his
early writings, or I think
it was in his writings against
Prothan, or whatever how you say it,
where he basically
talks about how, ironically,
the institution of private property
and its alienation corresponds also with a kind of debasement of actual real human wealth, where you're just trying to save at all cause for its own sake.
No, not the one from volume one that I just gave.
Roadhan, yeah, whatever.
Let me find it.
Okay. Let me find it, but it's definitely there it's a very specific example he gives um i can't i'm not
gonna be able to find it right now um private property is not your personal possessions it is not your car and it is not your home it is not even your small business private that's true and i again there's nothing that sounds crazy to someone who just learned about Marxism yesterday.
But when you actually think about it and apply Marxism consistently, you will find that entrepreneurship is not essentially and inherently a private property.
It is an activity very much defined under capitalism by the institution of private property,
but that's not the essence of what it is. In essence.
Property is the debt you pay the banks with interest for taking out a mortgage to be...
Yeah, literally. The institution of private property in the form of capital according to Karl Marx himself
culminates in MM Prime.
That's what private property in its essence
is revealed to be
at its most bare and essential
level. Thank you
so much, Volcker. Thank you so
fucking much for finding that quote.
Everyone round of applause for Volk Walter.
Because he found it and I was looking for it.
And that's literally the one.
So look. literally the one so look um hold on yeah it was from his 1844
uh manuscripts
so here it is
self renunciation thus scripts. So here it is.
Self-renunciation, thus political economy,
is true moral science. Self-renunciation,
the renunciation of life, all human needs. The less you eat,
less you go to theater, the less you drink, the more more you save the greater becomes your treasure which neither moths nor rust will devour your capital the
less you are the less you express your life the more you have the greater is your
alienated life literally that's exactly isn't it life. Literally.
That's exactly.
Isn't it kind of intelligent how I like express this really old, seemingly impenetrable
arguments by Marx
in ways that are relatable to people
in the 21st century,
like talking about yachts and cars
and about how,
at least that still has the human quality
of your dreams somehow, right?
It's not even an endorsement of yachts. It's like at least that is something
still kind of human. But capital and private property at its essence is not that. That is not
what it is at its essence. At its essence, it is usury. It is money
for money's own sake, which is
absolutely true.
Private property is the institution
which mercilessly destroys families and societies
having no regard for any genuine human needs
and avoid of any human character
private property is the institution you guys we are not going to have the same rate throughout this
video throughout the whole thing so we're gonna like we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna like um
just focus on arguments he makes instead of watching the entire thing.
Because if we watch the entire thing, it's going to be five hours long.
I don't know if you guys even want that.
It is on its basis that all civilization begins to break down.
And even the most sacred relations of familial and communal bonds are destroyed as women and period of prostitution.
And men fall victim to suicide and drug abuse.
Yeah, that's kind of rhetoric
directly transplanted manifesto replicated throughout the
entire
history of
communist
literature which
describes the
decay of
capitalism and
the rise of
bourgeois
degeneracy
but he's
going to say
it's fascist
rhetoric right yeah so how do communists want But he's going to say it's fascist rhetoric, right?
Yeah.
So how do communists want to abolish?
Good, good.
Teach the young people.
Teach the generation.
That Marxism is just fascism.
That way they'll become Nick Fuentes fans and just to still start hail hitlering and doing the Sieg hails.
And you're encouraging them to do that.
Congratulations.
Communist do not advocate taking people's possessions. And in fact, we do not not advocate taking people's possessions.
And in fact, we do not even advocate taking people's businesses.
Right, we don't.
Because China doesn't.
And China is ruled by the largest Communist Party on Earth.
Fancy that.
Fancy that. People's small small businesses we don't call for
unilaterally expropriating them
you want to know who else didn't
the communist manifesto didn't
the ten planks of the communist manifesto nowhere do didn't.
The ten planks of the Communist Manifesto,
nowhere do they include simply taking over people's shit,
their entrepreneur, their businesses,
wholesale.
And why can I say that so confidently in 2025? Why can I say that so confidently for us? Because the only businesses that still exist that have a semblance of personality or that are not already socialized by a really abstract form of capital, those are not the fundamental means of production that a communist state would be nationalizing right away.
Small-scale businesses, like a diner or a restaurant, that would not be taken by a communist state because they are not big enough at scale to be of any relevance
to the property question for communists at a fundamental level
of facilitating the development of society
and the direction of the development of socialism,
which is something that is happening materially
at the level of civil society.
So according to has,
private property doesn't refer to private ownership of the means of to private property doesn't refer
to private ownership
of the means of production.
It doesn't refer to
capitalists.
No, it does
refer to that.
It does.
But what does
private mean?
Private does not
mean individual.
Private ownership
of the means of production means the dominance of capital
over the means of production it means of production in the form of capital that is what gives it the quality of being private property, not the exclusive
management by a certain individual or the exclusive ownership even by a given individual.
Businesses, rather by private property, has means,
the useery, which is destroying. Yes, because the whole point is that capital is radically
super individual.
The notion that private property
is exclusive individual ownership
is a myth of the bourgeoisie.
Marx himself in the writing of capital
very clearly reveals that private property in its developed form
is radically impersonal it takes the form of capital which is a principle that is an it's almost like an autonomous principle of a accumulation it's a radically alienated logic of the reproduction of society itself red maze what's up and that is the irony of marx's capital it is good for communists to remove the human face from private
property it's good to remove the human face your neighbor doesn't have private property the people you neighbor doesn't have private
property. The people you know don't have private
property. Private property is an institution
that has taken the
form of cartels,
and yes, a real elite um not necessarily defined by people in hoods at a table but an exclusive
elite that has the reins of control and power over the fundamental institutions of capital.
Sacred relations of familial and communal bonds.
Owning a business and getting rich.
That's not a problem.
The problem is the cabal of bankers.
I paraphrased language that was directly from the Communist manifesto.
But let's see him spin it as
fascist. Who are bleeding the productive
economy dry. That's the real enemy. In this
thread, Haas uses the terms a capitalist class
and a working class, but he's not using these terms in a
Marxist sense. Why not?
The capitalist class is not the actual capitalist class, but the international financial cabal and the... Do you see the twisted idealism at play here?
Do you see the twisted, twisted logic at play here?
Do I have to yell for you guys to understand how fucking retarded it is the actual capitalist class
is this abstract definition whereas hoss is talking about something concrete he makes it appear as if the actual capitalist class is some abstract
theoretical definition rather than a concrete social formation. If there is an actual capitalist
class that exists, Brandon, if one actually exists, like in actuality,
it takes a concrete social form. So what is that? Who is that capitalist class? Well, it is a global transnational class that should probably be abundantly clear because the financial institutions that represent the highest forms of capital accumulation are indeed transnational.
And yes, it's a cartel, it's a cabal, it's a form of monopoly capital.
These two things are correct, empirically, as far as the description of the actual capitalist class.
The problem with you is that you're trying to personalize capitalist class relationships
so they are familiar to people on an individual level of scale so that you can categorize your neighbors and your coworkers and you can apply the logic of Marxist class distinction at an individual level of scale, which just profoundly underestimates the extent
to which capital has
become, or at least
the means of production, have become radically
socialized, at a
scale that is not really comprehensible
or relatable, I should rather
say, at the individual level.
It's the dimension of relatability that obstructs people's ability to comprehend Marxist theory.
They're trying to make it too relatable, such that they can say, I can see myself as a capitalist. You can't. Capital has become such a radically impersonal institution of scale. You cannot relate to it at an individual level today.
The working class is the American people who have to unite across class to defeat the
international financial... definitely isn't a Marxism, but it does sound like another ideology. The struggle against international
finance capital and It's not Marxism, right?
The popular front isn't Marxism.
The popular front against monopoly capital isn't Marxism?
Okay. If you want to say that the common turn, that Dimitrov, that the CPUSA since the 1930s was not Marxist, make that argument.
But to make the leap and equivocate their standard position, which is reflected on the flag of China today, that that's fascist class collaboration, is unjustified.
If you reject the view that that's Marxism, go ahead and say that. You're a Trotskyite.
Equating that with fascism is dangerous and irresponsible, because you're effectively saying all of the history of communism was just fascist.
Now, I will now open MSPaint and try to educate people about what the popular front was.
And hopefully, you know, hopefully I can teach you something new. Okay. Before we address the accusation of fascist class collaboration, Marxism, Leninism, I explained this already. I wrote about it. It's in a
substack article called The Brahms of Democracy, where I talk about Mao's contribution to dialectics and on contradiction, which really elaborates the principles of Leninism, and that contribution to Marxism made specifically, and the logic underlying it of dialectics.
But people don't remember the substack, nor care about it, and it may as well never have been written, because clearly nobody actually took
any lasting significance from it. They just kind of glossed over it and then ignored it and
forgot about it forever. So I have to sit here on stream and then explain it to people in a much
more simple way. Okay. So let's begin by trying to comprehend the marxist
leninist understanding of class distinctions okay now give me one moment most definitely nope okay so um...
um... um... I pulled it up.
I needed to pull up some references.
I pulled up Mao Zon contradiction so that nobody can accuse me of making this up and claiming this is outside of Marxism.
So, as we know within marxism there is this kind of vague idea
of the base and the superstructure right here is the superstructure and here is the superstructure right so typically people sorry position these correctly and then you know classical marxism
comprehends that these are interrelated yada yada dialectically right even though the base has a primary
significance um the superstructure also helps in determining the form of the base, right? So this is the very simplistic understanding that comes from classical Marxism.
Now, I will explain that in Leninism, a new contribution to Marxism is made. That doesn't contradict classical Marxism, but rather elaborates upon it in ways that made classical Marxist, dogmatists, and Social Democrat Orthodox Marx is very uncomfortable. So, Lenin actually uh started to comprehend that there is an antagonism between the superstructure and
base as well that at the level of this contradiction right here there was actually a contradiction such that you know it's not just this it's almost like at the level of the base there are other inceptual possibilities of other superstructures
right constantly being endangered uh sorry in terms of
their potentiality
right
you know
and that the superstructure
um
instead of just being a superstructure, if it's an apparatus of class control, has to kind of evolve into being this hegemony, which is an notion that was elaborated by Antonio Gromsky, right?
And a hegemony, you know, it's kind of like above, in a way, the superstructure itself.
And a hegemony suppresses all of these inseptial, alternative possible superstructures.
So this is why Lenin is like, you know, he's the theorist of
imperialism, because within
classical Marxism, an imperial
principle is not really
recognized, in general.
Only the bourgeois
republic in general only the bourgeois republican a principle that's the typical superstructure that just
directly reflects you know the capitalist base right and so so so in classical Marxism, you just have kind of one dimension of contradiction, which
is right here, right?
But Lenin, he kind of introduces something on top of this scheme, which is hegemony.
Now, if there's hegemony, there is also correspondingly a kind of, um,
let's just say, let's just call it democratic populism. It's a kind of sophianic principle that was a vestige of the influence of the Neroid Nerodonnik movement in Russia,
which Lenin and all the revolutionaries
at the time kind of took for granted in many ways.
But for them,
the dimension
of the people's popular revolution
was something that also was a principle that
superseded this classical Marxist distinction, but from the opposite direction.
So this is the base of guerrilla warfare that fights the imperial hegemony.
So this is, you know, Hamas and basically this is where Hamas is where Mao and the popular front of China was, and this is like Japan.
And so in this schema, you know, as applied to the popular front, Demetrov and the theorists of the popular front in the 1930s basically said that to apply Leninist principles
correctly, fascism was associated with this extra Republican, extra constitutional,
open dictatorship, right? That is threatening even the constitutional integrity of a bourgeois democratic republics, right? That the only way to resist it is to go down, lower into the masses, and have this kind of democratic popular front that does indeed cut across class distinctions that exist within the base, to have a principle that can fight the hegemony, imperial hegemony.
Okay?
Now, this is so crazy and schizophrenic.
So we're just going to go back to the simple Marxist, classical Marxist thing of the superstructure and the base.
Okay. of the superstructure and the base so that no one loses their mind and gets a headache.
But okay, let's understand clearly that in the base, you have a class contradiction, right?
Let's just call, let's um say the proletariat is a circle and the bourgeoisie is a square right i don't know i don't know if this seems like it reflects
conflict but there's like this contradiction in the base itself, right?
And it was Lenin who pointed out that there are also, by the same logic, there's also a contradiction at the level of superstructure.
And that is why above the bourgeois
republican superstructure, you have this imperial tendency, right? He describes that in the
development of capitalism itself, culminating in imperialism. But imperialism was not just about the development of an economic system.
It also referred to a tendency that was observed by Lenin during World War I, which is why he
called World War I a reactionary war, where bourgeois democracy was being suspended with emergency powers and there's this
new imperial political tendency which had already existed in russia at the time because you know you
understand let me explain something in russia the schema was this this was the duma right this was the autocracy right
and then here you had um uh you know class distinction
and then below
you had here
uh the Russian peasantry
so I want you to understand this schema
to simplify Marxism
Leninism because you can actually be an Anglo-box guy
and fit this in
you can put many different kind of things
here so for example instead of autocracy
you can have Japanese imperialism or Zionism or whatever, right?
Here you can have, you know, some kind of, you know, sovereignty, traditional, bourgeois sense of sovereignty you have your typical class
distinctions and then you can have hamas uh the chinese uh popular front uh you know anti fascist
popular front yada y, yada, yada, yada, right?
So, this schema is like, like, instead of just the base superstructure one that come from classical Marxism, you have this one in Marxism, Leninism. Okay? Now, again, both of these are things that
transcend the superstructure, the autocracy and the Russian peasantry from opposite directions.
The autocracy consolidates the superstructure. Everyone please follow me. Okay. So let's do this.
Okay. Uh, let's um do this okay uh so Imperial principle consolidates superstructure.
Locks it in.
Good.
Let's make this shorter
you know
it's one It consolidates the superstructure and it locks it in, okay?
The superstructure is, this is open terrain.
Open terrain.
Democratic site of battle okay now here here um let's just call this popular principle popular principle permanent state of chaos that permanently that threatens every established superstructure.
Okay, for example.
So this is that.
Thank you so much for that.
Highly volatile.
Okay. okay here we are
all right
so
so what uh this is not sufficiently clear, I understand that, but as you can see, both of these in a way transcend this distinction and give expression to its form. So this is a battle at the level of form, right?
And this is the content, this base here, the proletariat and the bourgeoisie, it's a fundamental class distinction.
But the victory of the bourgeoisie, it's a fundamental class distinction. But the victory of the bourgeoisie leads to
a specific kind of superstructure, which in response to proletarian class antagonism, you know,
culminates in an imperial principle, right?
This locks in the superstructure in favor of the bourgeoisie, right?
So what Lenin does and what Mao does is the base is constantly being reproduced.
Constant reproduction. The base is constantly being reproduced.
Here.
Down below, it's constantly being reproduced, right?
And I will kind of cite something from Lenin to help
to help that's
from left-wing communism
an infantile disorder that
will help actually understand
this.
So Lenin writes, for example,
that the dictatorship of the proletariat means a war against the new class against a more powerful enemy, the bourgeoisie,
whose resistance has increased tenfold by their overthrow, whose power lies not only in the strength of international capital, the strength and durability of their international connections. So that Lenin right there, you see where he's talking about that? That is a reference to the system of hegemonic imperialism, which is right here.
This is the imperial principle.
That is what he's talking about there.
He talks about how, in addition to to that also the force of habit the
strength of small-scale production and that he says small-scale production engenders
capitalism and the bourgeoisie continually daily hourly spontaneously and on a mass scale and that this is what makes the
dictatorship of the proletariat necessary and that it uh and uh victory is not possible over the
bourgeoisie without a long stubborn desperate struggle
which calls for tenacity discipline and single and inflexible will so he's talking about
the dictatorship of the proletariat and its necessity here.
So let me go back to here.
So what he just described,
force of habit and small-scale production, and it's happening from below, and it's engendering newly and afresh, reproducing these relationships of production, hourly, daily, and so on and so on.
That is coming from the popular principle right here, the highly volatile dimension of material existence,
of like an organic material, national or social body, right? And this is the dimension of civil
society and culture.
So there are two axes under which you can understand the traditional base of capitalist production, right?
One is the imperial principle that consolidates and locks
in the
the specific and
unique establishment of a
bourgeoisie. It's a specific cartel.
It's a specific monopoly, whatever.
Right? But then also
the base is constantly being reproduced at the level of relations within civil society, okay? And that is the popular principle, you know, that is the dimension of the people, where there is no clear class distinctions, where there is a vacillating mass that has proletarian tendencies. It has bourgeois tendencies.
Just as Lenin was describing the peasantry in the development of capitalism in Russia, right?
It's one of his earliest works.
There is an ambiguity at this level.
And why is that?
Because institutionally,
there is a kind of volatility and openness
which constantly disturbs every imperial principle.
Just like in Gaza, Hamas, you know, it's disturbing the Zionist occupation and therefore disturbing the establishment of a very specific capitalist superstructure, right?
Because from the people themselves, there's this resistance that's constantly being endangered.
But it's not only resistance, as Lenin said.
You could also say in a way, this is where the reproduction of
society at a material level is actually happening. Now, the thing is that in Marxism,
in Marxism, real historical changes happen here.
This is the interesting thing. Within Marxism,
the real changes in history are happening here.
Whereas here, in Marxism
forces that retard history
exist here
so look
look how interesting in this is
this is just Marxism Lennonism for you
all of the active and vital transformations that are subtly happening, the way in which from the logic of capitalism itself, new relations or production, of socialism are emerging, whatever that Marx describes, this is only happening at the organic material level of civil society, material relations of production that are a consequence of the force of habit. Just as Lenin said, the bourgeoisie is being reproduced hourly and daily and so on and so on, that reproduction here accelerates transformation.
It's movement, its development. Reproduction is development. Something that reproduces according to dialectics also develops in a direction of change. But the imperial principle actually retards and
halts and tries to freeze that
reproduction.
It tries to freeze that reproduction
to lock it in
to lock it in to maintain the hegemony of a single monopoly, a single establishment,
and so on and so on, a single hegemony, right?
So that's why, you know, the accelerationist position of like unleashing capitalism and freeing it up from imperialist to Germany, like Deng Xiaoping in a way, the reason Marxists have this optimism that that will lead to socialism is because of this idea that the imperial super strong, the imperial hegemony is retarding the development of history by locking in a specific, you know, specific uh you know a specific uh you know a specific institution of class
dictatorship that is retarding the forces of production.
Okay, ones if this makes sense, because it makes a lot of sense to me.
This scheme is applicable on a lot of different levels.
So look, it's really simple.
There's also other ways I can explain this.
Don't worry if you're overwhelmed by that and it's really hard.
You can also think of things in terms of, let's just have a neutral shape, I don't know, an oval.
In framing, right?
In framing. So... right in framing so yeah i'll just put it this way so here you have class contradictions right
here you have class contradiction, right?
Um...
That's happening right here, right?
But sometimes the superstructure takes the form of for example um imperialism zionism um autocracy fascism you name it right right here so sometimes this becomes a secondary contradiction right this is the whole people right and this becomes let me just i don't know just, I don't know, use green, I don't know, or red to emphasize antagonism.
This, let me see.
This becomes the primary contradiction.
So this is another way to simplify it if the other way was too complicated for you.
So there's a base in the superstructure but sometimes the base um unifies is in a way
because each base is national and form against a superstructure uh an established and consolidated superstructure.
So what is the example that Mao gives of this?
Is Mao a fascist?
You know, we need to know from Brandon.
But what does Mao say?
So right here, he says, um... Thank you. So, um...
So...
Um... So, um, Thank you. You know, Okay, so here it is.
So in a semi-colonial country, the relationship between principle and contradiction and non-principle presents a complicated picture.
When imperialism launches war of aggression against such a country, all its various classes, except for some traitors,
contemporarily unite in a national war against imperialism.
You see that?
It's Mao talking about supposed class collaboration, right? right um at such a time the contradiction between imperialism and the country concerned becomes the
principal contradiction well all the contradictions among the various different classes are temporarily relegated to a secondary and subordinate position okay so this is what mao says right now look at this diagram i made for you for free by the way. Right here.
So, again, this becomes the primary contradiction, and
these become, these contradictions
within the people become secondary
contradictions under these circumstances,
right? That Mal describes,
for example. But the interesting thing is that the logic doesn't
confine itself to the context of a semi-colonial country because this same logic is applied
this same logic is applied to anti-imperialism
and the anti-fascist popular front
you know it's the same logic it gets applied in different ways
and this is the It's the same logic. It gets applied in different ways.
And this is the essential distinguishing factor of Marxism, Leninism, versus classical Marxism. Okay?
So, um... okay so um so let me explain something also i don't know if i'm going to do this with ms paint all is that, does that, did that help you understand things a little better?
I hope it did.
Now, let me explain the distinction between that and, and, um, fascist class collaboration.
So fascist class collaboration
rejects
class struggle. It rejects distinctions between class or sorry it attempts to unite classes
in a corporatist sense where the principle of sorry where different classes
like the bourgeoisie
the petty bourgeoisie
are given institutional
principles
elevated to an institutionalized
political principle
a corporate or whatever right
but in the Marxist-Leninist conception of the popular front, only the proletariat
is elevated to a principle, an institutional principle of class politics. Everyone else is given
the benefit of the doubt of just being among the people.
So their class status is not politically recognized.
And therefore, their class position and their class relationships are not officiated on an institutional level. So fascism attempts to officiate and institutionalize
class relationships, right, besides the proletariat. And sharing power between proletariat and bourgeoisie and so on.
This is the kind of corporatist idea.
But in the Marxist-Leninist notion of the popular front,
none of these other classes are even recognized politically. They're just given the benefit of the doubt that, yes, you may come from the bourgeoisie, you may come from the petty bourgeoisie, but we're going to kind of give you the benefit of the doubt that you are just the people, you are among the people, only the proletariat's
class status is recognized and officiated at a political level, right? Under its leadership,
moreover, under its leadership, that's also very important, these other classes
are given the benefit of, they're being given a way out, basically. Like, okay, you may be
part of the bourgeoisie, you may be part of the petty bourgeoisie, but you're part of this popular front that represents civil society genuinely.
And therefore, under the dictatorship of the proletariat, we could unite with you and collaborate with you on a democratic level right but not at the
level of a corporatist class collaboration where we're making your class status explicit at an
institutional political level right so that is the difference from fascist class collaboration.
It's a fundamental difference. Again, it takes a lot of intelligence to comprehend that.
In Marxism, there is a class, there is a dimension where class differences are not made primary. That's the democratic dimension, the whole people, everyone, right? It's a universalist principle of politics.
Under the dictatorship of the proletariat, you still have a dimension of democratic existence.
And why is that?
Because Marxists recognize that even upon the seizure of power, what happens?
What happens? Even when there's a seizure of power? What happens? Right?
What happens? Because of the force of habit within civil society the strength of small-scale production
and still is endendering class relationships daily hourly spontaneously and on mass scale. This is what makes a proletarian
dictatorship necessary. Even when you overthrow the imperialist state machine, it's still necessary
to have a proletarian dictatorship. Why? Because at the level of civil society, you cannot eliminate class relationships
and all the vestiges of capitalist civilization overnight. It's still going to exist. So, for
example, China is a great example of that. That's not class collaboration though just because you're
acknowledging that you have not abolished all classes overnight and that it is necessary to
have a popular front and to unite against the formative imperial principle of the superstructure,
the imperialist hegemony across, yes, across class distinctions on a democratic basis,
that does not mean its class collaboration in the fascist sense because those are
distinctions proper to the constitution of civil society at a material level not the imperialist hegemony, not purely as a consequence of political will, not because of a certain ideology or a certain politics. That's just the nature of your nation. That's just the nature of how your people exist right now cannot be changed overnight it doesn't mean that
marxas abandon the notion of popular sovereignty and national sovereignty entirely it just means
that they understand that class distinctions, first of all, take the form of a primary contradiction
between an imperial hegemony, which is locking in a specific superstructure and a specific,
um, a specific, you know, order of things in place.
And that, that is the concrete form of the development of the class struggle.
So even members of the Petty the class struggle. So even
members of the petty bourgeoisie or the bourgeoisie
that have been locked out of that
establishment,
the imperial hegemony, they can be
allies of the proletariat.
In Palestine, members of the Palestinian bourgeoisie can be allies of the Palestinian proletariat, and they can unite together against Zionism.
But what complicates that, and I was going to get into this lecture today as well i don't know if we
have time what complicates that is the fact that capital has always been a global and profoundly
geopolitical system capitalist relationships of production are not abstract. They are not an abstract system that has national forms applied everywhere. It's a very specific world system that has its roots in colonialism.
And the interesting thing, I just want to do this quickly,
all right, give me a chance, I'm just do this quickly.
And then we're going to kind of speed run the rest of the video.
Now, the interesting thing is that...
Let me just begin with a world, right?
The interesting thing is that, you know...
Whenever you have a Comprador bourgeoisie, right?
Let's just say like the proletariat is uh red bourgeoisie is blue right
let's just represent it that way.
Oftentimes, the only way that this contradiction ever plays out, and the only way for the bourgeoisie to establish itself is to become a comparador bourgeoisie right they become a
compradour class that becomes part of the system of global imperialism.
But here's the interesting things.
If you lag behind, if you are late to capitalism, let's say, right?
If you lag behind and you are late to capitalism, this is the interesting thing.
This class will never rise to the status of this.
This. Never.
They had a head start. This never happens.
Why?
Because...
They had a head start and... and these old bloodlines and so on, because when you think about it logically,
if you had a head start and in the colonial plunder of the world,
the first forms of capital accumulation,
and you've consolidated that and institutionalized it,
you will always be on top, no matter what. And to whatever extent capitalism develops in other countries, the most the capitalist class of those countries can develop within the system of global imperialism is a compradour class. And Comprador class will never, ever be able to replace
the existing capitalist ruling class. Some of them may rise to the ranks and be recruited.
That's entirely possible. But they will never, ever replace this. So the capitalist system is never,
ever primarily national in form. It's always a global system of imperialism, always. It is always
global and profoundly geopolitical every attempt by an
inceptual bourgeoisie to overthrow the anglo empire failed in france it failed the
bourgeois revolution in france did not topple the hegemony of the British Empire.
The Germans, their elites were heavily intermixed and intermarried with the British, but they also failed, you know, at least a few times they failed, you know,
uh, World War II, I won't even say that was an attempt to, to topple them,
because it wasn't, if you know the real history.
But, uh, they will never, they, they failed, right?
So the reason you can't call,'s stupid to attribute it's stupid to claim that our views on the
british empire are larushite when you consider that the British Empire, when you consider that the British Empire was the global capitalist hegemon
only until America took its place.
Now, this has a lot of significance,
because how did it take its place study the details
and history of how this happened you'll find a lot of continuity literally between the respective ruling classes
in blood and in um so this is all we're saying you don't need to be a lerushite to point out this obvious fact.
And it is especially important
if we're operating in the American
national context and we're trying to comprehend
the evolution of
capitalism and imperialism
to point out to give
communists both a rhetorical edge and an edge or and just a position of legitimacy and leading our nation to socialism.
The fact that in order to do this, it is absolutely true that in the process of this, a lot of aspects of America's revolutionary identity were lost. That's not LaRushite or crazy to point out. It's just true. If you understood in the late 19th century or mid-19th century even, how profoundly unique the American
identity was in the painstaking
lengths it went to
to contrast itself
with the British Empire.
If you understood how controversial
the U.S.'s acquisition of
Cuba from the Spanish-American War and the Philippines.
How controversial it was! I mean, there was some real, like, American national identity that did pride itself on rejecting colonialism and associating that with the British past.
And they saw it as a complete repudiation of the very foundations of what America was.
I don't care if you criticize America's founding fathers do that.
But it is a matter of historical fact that there was a meaningful distinction between the United States of America as a revolutionary identity of nation-building versus the British Empire. It was very important to American
thinkers and for American public life until suspiciously the rise of the American monopoly
capitalist class led to a lot of mergers in marriage and in the former and in institutions of capital which created this anglo-american establishment as described by Carol Quigley.
That actually did happen.
Now, you don't have to say
there's this big conspiracy of the British Empire
or whatever to acknowledge the
nuances of this. And there's no
need to even invoke LaRouche's
name to accept the facts of history and have a sober
and clear analysis of how this transition right here happened and its lasting significance and
effects yes it's absolutely lasting significance and effects.
Yes, it's absolutely true.
The British supported the Confederacy. So there is a meaningful dichotomy between the founding of America the the first democratic republic in the world
and the british empire i know it's crazy to say that but trust me when i say that the
american war of independence was fought against the british empire so there's kind of a significance there.
You know, I don't know. There's no outlandish
LaRushite conspiracyism that's
necessary whatsoever to consult
or even
or even
care. You don't even have to think about that.
You know, it's not relevant at all.
It isn't a Marxism, but it does sound like another ideology. The struggle against international finance capital.
Okay, so I very clearly explained how the standard Marxist-Lennon-Is view has nothing to do with fascism
but
I also want to point out
something I find ironic
that and we're going to be able
to skip a lot of this
something Brandon does
which is really interesting
he takes the rhetoric
of fascists, attempting to
hijack the rhetoric of
socialist and communist movements
dishonestly,
and say, well, because of the rhetorical
similarity between this
fascist movement that was rhetorically trying to hijack
socialist rhetoric, because that sounds vaguely similar to what Haas, an actual communist is saying,
Haas is a fascist. But let's ask the question. Does Brandon investigate what the Nazis did?
Because the Nazis in no way fought against institutions of finance capital.
They expanded their powers to an extraordinary and unprecedented degree in actual practice, which means this rhetoric was not sincere. But Brandon is attempting to depict
their rhetoric as sincere. That's the problem. It's not sincere rhetoric. If it was sincere,
they would not have been fascist to begin with.
So to say this rhetoric is essentially fascist assumes that
when fascists employed their rhetoric
like this, they were being
sincere. But the facts of history
show us that they weren't
because they did nothing
they did nothing at all
to curb the
speculators and the financial
capitalists at all. They did
nothing to clamp down on the financial exchange
circles, nothing at all.
So they were not sincere when they were employing this kind of rhetoric.
Now, you can claim we're not sincere either, but that would defeat the purpose, because you're claiming that we are unduly attacking the financial elite
and that's not the real enemy and Hitler was attacking them as well but Hitler wasn't actually
attacking them he was employing
insincere rhetoric that sounded
like he was opposed to them,
but he wasn't in actual practice.
So you see how Brandon's a retard?
Regardless of whether this international financial
financial cabala is defined in ethnic terms,
it's still fascistic ideology and rhetoric.
America is... You know, Fascist rhetoric.
According to Brandon.
It's occupied by a parasitic financial lead, which Americans need to overthrow to restore traditional values, rejuvenate the country.
I didn't really say that, though.
I didn't really say that.
You're kind of just like skewing my words in a very specific way to make them rhetorically sound like far-right stuff.
You're not quoting me ad verbatim, are you?
And engage in territorial conquest. That's a fascist.
Territorial. Oh, I forgot. He lost. conquest. That's a fascist.
Territorial. Oh, I forgot. He lied about our stance on Canada.
He pulled together a bunch of disparate, unrelated things, and he, like, took a speech I gave about the concrete development of the capitalist class in the USA.
Then he tied that to a Jackson tweet about liberating Canada, and he tied that to the Communist Manifesto talking about how capitalism liquidates any semblance of human civilization, you know. And so he combines all of this together to spin this narrative that this is fascism, right? That I'm a fascist.
It's not a Marxism. It's not hyperbole to say that. That's not socialism. That's national socialism. You'll notice to the... Standard Marxism, Leninism is national Socialism, because I can cite to you very easily
writings of the Communist Party USA talking about the need to save civilization by uniting against monopoly capital.
And I can point to you countless examples by uniting against monopoly capital.
And I can point to you countless examples of Marxist Lenin is talking about the cultural decay that capitalism brings, and bourgeois decadence and capitalist decadence.
And that the only way to stop this is to unite against monopoly capital and imperialist capital.
I could point to you countless examples of Soviet propaganda, which does name the capitalist class, you know.
Stalin's interview, I think it was with H.U. been H.G. Wells. Hold on.
Might have been H.G. Wells. Well, let me find it. All right, well, Foundations of Leninism all right well foundations of
Leninism
under capitalism
the exploited masses don't participate in governing
even under the most democratic regime
governments are not set up by the people
but by the people,
but by the Rothschilds, the Stinnis,
the Rockefellers, and Morgans.
Huh?
Oh my God.
Oh, my God.
It's fascism.
That he actually names concrete examples of the capitalist class.
Occupying governments.
You know, wow.
This is essentially fascist rhetoric.
The fuck.
The presence of signifiers, like the Great Reset, which is... The presence of signifiers that...
That's a great word, signifier.
What they reflect is widespread popular disillusionment
of the direction
the global elite
are taking humanity
is this right wing boogeyman of the last few years
in their interview on Chinese media
Jackson Hinkle and Grayson Walker
it's a fucking term that was
literally used by the world elite at Davos.
By fucking Klaus Schwab and literally the representatives of the global fucking capitalist class that they used.
But now it's a right-wing term, you fucking retard.
Talk about such things
as the paid reset in George Soros and the World Economic Forum
and Klaus Lov. And this is all rhetoric.
Customary to... You know, don't you dare talk about George Soros.
You know, the guy that publicly brags about helping overthrow communist states in the late 1980s in Eastern Europe who actually
facilitated anti-communist
color revolutions as a billionaire.
Don't you dare. Don't you dare
rhetorically invoke
his name?
Because sacred
George Soros is a POC oppressed transgender who's untouchable
and you're a bigot if you fucking dare talk badly about him
you gotta wonder like why everyone's running toward the right wing when you have self-proclaimed
Marxists like Brandon Torres running cover for George Soros hey Brandon will you apply the same logic
to people who talk bad about Elon Musk or even Donald Trump in their capacity as capitalists?
A lot of people talk badly about Elon Musk. Why can you talk bad about Elon Musk but not George Soros? Can anyone answer me that question? And please don't mention
these vague insinuations and perceptions that have no substance from the standpoint of Marx's theory
about parallels and rhetoric. It means fucking nothing, because you have to judge us by the content of what we mean and what we say.
Not how similar it sounds.
If Nazis employ rhetoric that says,
the sky is blue, you know, that doesn't mean anyone who says the sky is blue is a fucking nazi in essence you retard
to the far right not to the marx is left far right and a fascist ideology
far right far right far right it's the far right hey brandon what fucking position of authority do you come from to label anything right or left?
What left movement do you come from that actually fucking exists?
Why are you making it seem like these are clearly defined things in America right now when they're not?
Because there is no left movement at all.
Everything's up in the fucking air, you idiot.
Like, he's coming from this position of expertise.
I know what the left is. I know what the far right is. I know what the left expertise. I know what the left is.
I know what the right is.
I know what the left wing.
But based on what?
Like, what is left wing right now that actually exists in America?
Please tell me.
Name one thing.
How can you label anything far right
if you don't even know what the left is?
By what standard?
What's the standard for the political spectrum we're using here?
Like, okay, this is far right.
Okay, based on, relative to what?
Based on what? What does that mean
in Marxist terms concretely? You have nothing.
There is no established
left-wing movement in this country okay the powers that be
but instead of class struggle it's conspiracy theories about international cabals trying to destroy the nation and
traditional value instead of class struggle you're talking about class distinctions in concrete terms
as as they actually, not as they only exist
abstractly in theory, but how they actually do in reality. And this means you're a conspiracy
theorist. Got it. And that's exactly what characterizes the ACP's ideology.
The ACP should not be treated as a communist party or a communist.
But it's like the cherry on top.
Is that he can't fucking cite one thing our party has actually said.
We've issued a lot of different statements and stuff, and our party has
actually spoken as a party. And, like, he hasn't cited even one thing. I mean, like, I've
debunked every example he's tried to use. But, like, even if they were valid, like, where's the actual views of the ACP here, right?
I'm in a sect.
The communism appears to be intentionally deceptive branding.
To lure in a young naive leftist is satisfied with the left, and tell them that, hey, this is the new
Communist Party of America. Join us. We hate
capitalism, and by capitalism, we mean international
finance, quote unquote.
By capitalism, we mean
the concrete capitalist system,
not one that only exists abstractly.
So, I want to explore this more deeply. Where exactly did
a mega-communism come from? What's interesting?
And we're trying to, by the way, we're trying to deceive
the very lucrative
and growing and
powerful, on the rise,
radical left audiences who are so powerful and so widespread in their popularity
that one could even say the whole zeitgeist of the current generation is the far left young naive far leftists.
They're such a lucrative demographic for us to deceive and trick.
They are so powerful and up and coming and on the rise.
It's totally not the complete fucking opposite
but the thing about
mega-communism is that it's a distinct and novel far-right ideology
it isn't neo-Nazism which is the most prevalent of fascist ideology
on the American far-right this is something distinct
and I think by exploring the history but how are American far right. This is something distinct, and I think by exploring the history.
But how are we far right again? I don't remember. Is it just because of the one thing Jackson
said on fresh and fit taken out of context?
And origins of a maga communism? What else is there besides that that you can use to call us far right?
Even then it's a fucking nebulous, stupid, retarded fucking thing to say.
But like even if we were to concede, that's a far right thing Jackson said.
Like what else?
Some of valuable insights about the nature of reactionary ideology. A major clue as the origins of a mega communism is in haza speech i showed before when haza discusses this international financial cabal which is occupying america he describes it as british for some reason with this no i didn't i didn't say it's British.
I said the Anglo-American elite, which was referencing an author called Carol Quigley,
and I cited a real quote by Cecil Rhodes,
and then I talked about how they had extensive relationships and marriages with the British oligarchy.
Mind you, the reason that's important to point out is because before World War II, the global capitalist hegemon, that was the center of global capital, was the British Empire.
And that's a fact.
So it makes sense that the ascendant one, which became America, there would be a degree of continuity there.
And I pointed out that continuity.
But now he's going to have a whole 20 to
30 minute segment talking
about LaRouche, and thank God
for us, guys, you want to know what's beautiful?
I'm going to skip most of this, because
most of this isn't even relevant to us.
But I will take the opportunity to talk plainly and candidly about LaRouche.
Thanks to Daniel Burke, such a good friend, by the way, revealing and exposing his hand.
He's given me the green light
to very diplomatically communicate
what I really fucking think about who LaRouche is
and who he was.
This seems to make no sense.
It's hard saying that the U.S. is controlled by Britain
to this very day.
No, I'm not. I'm saying that the global capitalist class, first of all, is not comprised of people who fulfilled the American dream and made it up from scratch from nothing. I'm saying it actually is like an
aristocracy in practice that has a long continuity with the previous ruling classes of the previous
world hegemonon. I talked
about marriages and mixture and
connections, which is much more
nuanced than this
straw man argument you're attributing
to me that the British
are this like nebulous,
lizard-like elite that just control us. I didn't say that. I talked about the continuity of actual ruling. I'm not saying Comprador, who are lower on the pecking order, the ruling preeminent capitalist hegemon, hegemonic capitalist
cartels. There was mixture between the ascendant ones coming from the USA and the existing ones
that were in Britain. That's a fact. Carol Quigley talks about it in his book, the Anglo-American elite. And that has relevance for Americans who want to succeed the American revolutionary tradition. America is literally oppressed and occupied by a British elite. What does this mean exactly?
No, it's a capitalist elite. That's the thing you missed from this whole speech, apparently. It's not important that they're British. It's important that they are a capitalist elite who have occupied this
country in contradistinction
to its own founding revolutionary ideals.
It's a much more powerful message
than the straw man you're trying to set up.
Fascist rhetoric is often esoteric
and not meant to be taken literally, so it's easy
to guess that Haas doesn't
What are you fucking talking about?
I really think of that a British elite rules America, but why
do you?
No, I don't think a British elite
rules America because I plainly never
even implied or said that at all.
What I said is much more nuanced and complicated than that. You fucking idiot with zero IQ reading comprehension.
As high as a use of the word British to describe this international financial about?
I actually said Anglo-American.
I said Atlantisist.
You read the Wikipedia article on LaRouche.
I'll tell you why he's constantly doing this straw man because he read the Wikipedia article
on LaRouche where they're
like oh LaRouche talks about the British
but he really just means
the Jews
and he's
trying to attribute that to me somehow right he's making the grand leap
as if i talk about the british in that way like the british are doing this or that.
I don't. I talk about the Atlantisist elite. I talk about the Anglo-American elite.
I did that in this speech, and I said a huge portion of today's ruling class is made up of that, sure.
The city of London and Wall Street.
But
I, at
no point, do I
talk
about this nebulous, you know,
conspiratorial cabal called, quote, unquote, the British?
That's the Wikipedia article of LaRouche.
You're pinning on me, you fucking dishonest worm.
I think this is a clue to figuring out of the origins of a mega-communism.
Yeah, this guy's a detective, guys.
It's like a clue because he already came up with the conclusion and he's asserting it into
the premise while pretending like he's this disinterested detective uncovering something.
You didn't uncover anything.
You asserted something about us baselessly from Johnny Socialism and them.
That's where you got it from.
That's the truth.
And now you're pretending like you're a detective uncovering the truth from investigation.
But there's no investigation.
There's a process in which you're cherry-picking evidence and shoe
warning it into this false procedure of of reasoning and argumentation to
um to uh lend credibility to this extremely baseless conclusion you already drew as inserted as the premise it takes us back to an obscure figure in american history that That figure is Lyndon LaRouche.
Fuck, like this is crazy.
Yeah, he has a whole 20 minutes.
I think part of this will include me, but let me just see.
Yeah. part of this will include me, but let me just see. I think even for those
that may disagree with LaRouc's philosophy, right?
They must at least concede that he is probably
one of the most, if not the most profound theorist
and thinker of policy in the modern age.
What do you think about that?
When I was in middle school.
All right.
So everything he just showed from Jackson, from me,
reflected something very specific.
Okay.
We at that time, through Caleb Maupin, our best friend, right?
Greatest guy ever.
Caleb very generously introduced us to the Schiller Institute.
And the Schiller Institute, we came to know them in the following ways right
they in true Daniel Burke I'm gonna explain who Daniel Burke is Daniel Burke is like the
left PR department for the Schiller.
So Schiller is trying to always recruit people.
And Daniel Burke is like the guy who faces leftward to recruit leftists, right?
So, you know, he was roped in with caleb moppin or whatever right and like what happened
is that they presented themselves to us in the following way like one they're pro they're pro-China and pro-Russia.
That's so cool, right?
They're like, you know, the Belt and Road initiative that China's doing?
We have this idea for that where it's like, you know, we want that, but we want, like, we are super enthusiastic about that.
And, like, that's more the energy we want, like, China, right?
That's like our, our view on policy.
And, you know, they also would talk about, they had very good foreign policy views.
CGTN would platform them.
They were welcomed in Russia.
And then they would also, then the second thing is that they also, you know, were not big fans of the British Empire.
But understand we had that position independently of them. It's just that this was another
thing that they seemed to have that so similar to us, right? And we like this idea of like an
American identity versus the British Empire and the imperialist tendency that America has become because we think that is an effective way to, you know, make communism applicable and relevant in the American national context. So we kind of, we're like,
oh, this can be like a Sun Yotsen type of thing, I guess, you know,
where he's not a communist, but it's like this, you know,
we were very open-minded.
And then the third thing that, what was it, we liked the thing about unleashing the productive forces, you know, in contrast to the degrowth stuff. And that's always been a feature of Marxist, Marxism, which is accelerating the
productive forces. Now, where did that accent come from, from my end? I liked the idea of
technological acceleration, because I am also well i have independent reasoning here okay
but i am kind of uh coming from acceleration as circles a little bit right i'm, I don't have the same views as them, but, you know, there used to be cave Twitter
with Ed Berg and the unconditional accelerationists and all these other kind of landians.
And there was a strong sentiment of like unleash the productive forces,
unleash technology, you know, instead of this technological pessimism and degrowth stuff,
restore back to Marxism, this kind of technological dimension of optimism.
Like, LaRouche would talk about, like, at least as they would present it to us, he would be like, oh yeah, we're going to have like five billion or five trillion people and you know fully unleash the
we we thought that was cool
right we liked that
uh we thought a lot of the
green politics was a
Malthusian which is true that's actually
real
Malthusianism is a real tendency among the capitalist class.
Marx talked about it.
He talked about how Thomas Malthus was the premier ideologist of the capitalist class at that time.
That didn't change.
You study the development of eugenics.
Look at what they're saying at Davos with depopulation and stuff.
It's all real, right?
So there were like some similarities that allowed us to find common ground with Schiller
and who is very much aggressively promoting LaRouche and LaRouche's ideas.
But understand something very carefully.
Both myself and Jackson had a pre-established position that predated this contact with Daniel Burke that we ended up having, right?
Which culminated in a conference we did at the Schiller Institute, where I gave a speech defending South Africa's EFF, which Schiller hates, and Hegel, which Schiller hates, and Alexander Kojev, which Schiller hates.
Now, and I promoted class struggle.
I talked about the proletarian class.
I touched upon all of the key things that distinguished myself from them.
And why did I do that?
Because I was starting to detect even at that time I was
getting pretty shocked at something that disturbed me which was that they were trying to
recruit from infrared right there were some infrared gorillas that were telling oh yeah they they were I was like hold on give me a fucking second here you know it's like I didn't understand how it worked online we're like if I'm friendly with Daniel Burke and you know we're trying to find
common ground
like that means I endorse them
and I want you guys to fucking join their retarded
cringe cult where they sit around and fucking
do this like cringe choir
shit and
you know
they they're like they do all this weird shit this cringe stuff
because it's like a cult basically and they they tell you to like you can't listen to music or like pop music. It's demonic. And like they try to fucking... kind of super... I liked common ground on
the basis of like policy ideas
and foreign policy
views and things. But I
always, like there was always a presumed
distance where like no motherfucker
we're not going to actually like
allow this to affect our fucking lives.
But there were some guerrillas that were, like,
drinking the fucking LaRouche Kool-Aid
because they needed a real-life organization to join.
Even though I told them to join the CPUSA.
And I was getting bothered by that. So I wanted to very clearly distinguish myself from Schiller and the LaRouche people. It's a message to my community that, hey, you know, if you don't fucking take my willingness to
try to, you know, collaborate with people who I think are sincere anti-imperialists to
mean that I endorse them or they're getting my seal of approval, because they're not.
In fundamental ways, they're not.
You know?
Anyway, I am so stupid, and this was the biggest fucking mistake of my life, literally, is ever, ever, ever affiliating with these people because for some reason
uh millennials who i think are their target demographic anyway are super fascinated by la roos and it's
like he's this it's this whole thing this whole cult
has this whole history
which is so interesting and whatever
from the 1980s
and it's like
wow uh you know
I I am literally so naive
in the sense that like Daniel Burke would literally just tell me his views on shit and we would see what they think about things and be like, okay, sure.
And, like, little did I fucking know that just from, like, associating with this guy,
you know,
we would be pinned for life as a LaRushite conspiracy
by this obscure 1980s cult apparently.
Like all of these things about LaRouche. Like, god he's the CIA and he's fucking in South Africa and he's whatever I don't fucking know man I don't fucking know like I what you think I fucking know about all these details about Lyndon
LaRouche
you know
and
I took them at face value
it was a big mistake and not because of them
even because I could deal with them
obviously they're no threat
to me.
But it's a mistake because these
crazy parapolitics, and this is why
Johnny Socialism latched onto LaRue
shit. No-brainer.
I first learned about LaRouz through the parapolitics
community, who always used to ironically, and as like a mark brainer. I first learned about LaRouche through the parapolitics community
who always used to ironically
and as like a marker of hipster taste
they'd be like, you know LaRouche, that crazy guy?
He actually was saying some shit
that was uncovering stuff.
So it was like kind of vogue to
like not seriously endorse LaRouche but be like, you know, this reveals some shit like LaRue. There's more to LaRouche than it seems. That's why I kind of started taking LaRouche a little seriously from a
distanced way like not in the sense that oh he's a great theorist or he's a great thinker
in the sense that like you know I agree with him philosophically but more in the sense of
like oh there's more to this than it lets on.
But when we started talking to Daniel Burke and when we did that event at Schiller where we spoke,
a new narrative started to get craft where the whole movement and whole phenomena of infrared specifically was being spun as like, this is just a LaRouche thing. This is like LaRouche Rehash. This is LaRouche. This is LaRouche all over again.
And we didn't know how powerful, you know, that narrative would be. We didn't, because we didn't see the Schiller
Institute as like extremely powerful or significant at all.
So to this day people like associate us with LaRouche and these really over-exaggerated way because of a very, very meaningless
friendship we had with
Daniel Burke specifically.
And I mentioned him because there really was no one else.
I mean, Pesto Mine was like a fucking troll, you know.
Talked about Lysenko's weed.
But Pestomime was not like this influential Lerushite agent.
Also, he got kicked out.
But beyond P pestomime,
Daniel Burke was really the only one that we, like, knew in any real way,
and, like, in the sense that he was, like, friendly with us.
Um,
but the, we start, yeah, LaRouche jacking, that's a good word. Like, they started LaRouche jacking us. Because these crazy, mind-fucked millennial parapolitics, schizoids, like, you know, it was perfect for them. We were this mysterious new thing, and they were like, oh, I've connected the connections. The line from Daniel Burke to us,
and it's like our connection was like totally superficial
you could just see it on a stream
there's nothing secret there's nothing
no planning no strategizing
no nothing just fucking
literally that stream he was like shit like that
you know
he went on jackson show um it's like
whatever once i started seeing these crazy i was like okay you know what i'm gonna keep a friendly
distance from these people.
No, no, it was also after the conference, because I started learning.
I had people who joined and then got disillusioned.
And they were like, you know, Haas on the inside, Schiller does nothing but shit talk you.
This was in actually 22, late 22.
They're like, these LaRouche guys at Schiller,
they do nothing but shit talk you.
RTSG was already waging war against them,
which I didn't like,
but they did it anyway.
Looking back, it was great.
They did that.
But I was like, why are we just going to war with everyone?
Burning all bridges, right?
Actually, it turns out RTSU was right.
Because one guy who had ended up attending one of their like
events or meetings
their choir they wanted him to fucking sing
you know
he was like why am I fucking singing
you know he was like
and then he was like all right fuck this
then he came and reported all right, fuck this. Then he came and
reported to me what was going on in there. He was like, listen, they talk mad shit about you.
Like, they don't like you. They want to take your community and they think that you're a nut job.
They don't like your philosophy.
They don't like your outlook.
They think infrared is filthy and disgusting and evil.
And that you're like guerrilla stuff.
It's like primitivism.
And that you're like a barbarian and the gangis con stuff like they really didn't
fuck with me at all but they believed in this strategy of taking my followers and recruiting them
into their cult okay i still didn't say a fucking thing because they didn't say
anything in public i kept my mouth shut and i just started ignoring them that's why we didn't
do a second event i i just started not wanting to collaborate with them at all.
Like how Daniel Burke used to come on stream.
Ah, no more, you know, that kind of thing.
Fast forward of our years of ignoring Schiller to the founding of the ACP. By this time, we didn't give a fuck about Schiller or Daniel Burke. They were irrelevant to us, completely irrelevant, okay?
Um, um, betrayal on January 17, something really interesting happened.
I was doxed and accused of running guns to Haiti.
And Daniel Burke comes out of the woodwork and he goes,
who would have guessed that an organization that's learning from Heidegger would have such an ugly, rotten thing?
And that's the epitome of who Lyndon LaRouche was.
Lyndon LaRouche was a guy who would have a slight philosophical disagreement with someone
and then very viscerally and maliciously attack them on a personal level, circumventing all personal decency, because of some stupid, small intellectual disagreement.
Meaning, LaRouche didn't believe there was this unspoken texture of dense social conventions and honor and anything that was beyond intellectual disagreements. For LaRouche, the direct philosophical opinions and views you have directly determine every aspect of your existence is what he believed.
That is why every LaRouche organization is a cult.
Because literally, from the music you listen to, everything has to reflect exactly your specific intellectual opinion and view.
And there's no room for humanity.
There's no room for charity.
And there's no room for any degree of ambiguity or mercy upon the other.
Every fucking aspect has to be directly pure formally, right? And I used to think LaRouche got done dirty with how much shit has talked about him and made up about him.
But honestly, it is karma.
You know what? I'll say it. It's fucking karma.
I tend not to want to speak ill of the dead.
But that's what he did to everyone else.
He slandered the shit out of everyone else and made up so much bullshit about Mao and the Soviet experience.
And he would just make shit up and pull it out of his fucking ass, much like
the millennial parapolitics people that are doing that to him.
That's karma, because that's all he ever fucking did.
He would make, he would make so many leaps
yeah he'd be like homaini is a British
drug dealer or something like he would and you'd be like
LaRouche where are you getting this from he's like well
it's the it's the platonic principle of you know I'm just it's deductive logic you know the it's like, well, it's the platonic principle of, you know, I'm just, it's deductive logic.
You know, it's like, it's like he almost, he felt like he could get away with telling empirical lies.
As if the empirical didn't matter.
And all that mattered was his philosophical antagonism with others
so the empirical details don't matter they're like you know you have to see the circle
instead of the squares whatever they would fucking say. The details don't matter.
Only the platonic circles matter.
Whatever fucking triangle bullshit they believe.
I don't fucking know.
They have this autistic shape bullshit.
Leibniz.
So they're like, literally, you know, you're getting douxed, you're getting slandered as an arms trafficker.
That doesn't fucking matter because we disagree with you about Heidegger and your views.
So no human decency matters.
We can just fucking crucify you and kill you literally
shoot you in the fucking head
and you deserve it because you fucking read
a different philosopher than me
you know
it's disgusting they are freaks
they're like you could literally
be shot
in the head and we're going to
fucking say that that doesn't matter.
That doesn't matter. The shapes
matter. That's just an empirical
bullshit, muddy, demyergic filth.
All that matters is that you disagree with me on Leibniz.
It's precisely, I mean, I don't even want to say this because it's so bad, but it's like you could be a victim of the worst crime.
You could be a fucking victim, you know?
And you'll go to LaRouche and be like, we need to report this crime.
And he's like, well, it's when you think
about it, it's your fault because of your fucking views on Leibniz.
It's because of your views on Leibniz that this happened to you.
So you deserve it.
You should reflect on your views on Leibniz.
Like, that's the type of shit they're on, you know?
Like, if I was thrown in prison,
Daniel Burke would come out in public and be like,
well, that's what happens when you don't agree with us on, you know, the critique of Hegel.
That's what happens when you're a Hegelian.
Like, I could literally be, like, assassinated, and Daniel Burke would come to my funeral
and try to give a speech to people about like why Jacques Lacan leads to death.
I find that so disgusting and contemptible about them.
And for diplomatic reasons, relating to the minimal decency I thought Daniel Burke had extended
toward us, I had never voiced my actual views on what I think about them.
And what did I gain from that?
I gained being called a LaRushite constantly because I never
fucking wanted to throw what I thought was a friend of our, you know, of Jackson and I under the
bus. But after what he fucking did, when he thought our party was at its dire hour and we were going to get dismantled, you know, when he thought we were like done for, he came out of the woodwork and was like pissing on our grave that he thought we were dead.
He showed his true colors, really.
I feel like that summarizes, like, my view on LaRouche.
Really, that's it.
I mean, the things that we agree with LaRouche on, it's just Michael Hudson.
That's the secret.
It's Michael Hudson.
Michael Hudson, Michael Hudson, Michael Hudson.
That's the contemporary economist that influences us. Michael Hudson. That's the contemporary economist that influences us. Michael Hudson, and LaRouce stole everything worthwhile when it comes to economics from Michael Hudson. Michael Hudson's the real genius, you know?
I would go on this website,
us election atlis.org,
and browse historical American election results
because that's what I said Dennis King,
who spent a long time covering the Roach and his movement.
So Lyndon LaRooch was born on September 8th,
in America.
A whole fucking biography for this guy.
And around the world. And the Roach,
now in his 40s and living in New York City,
whereas fully believed that they were capable of this,
and even forced to listen to...
Yeah, I just want to, like, get to the part
where it's, like, relevant to us or me.
Organizations, their goal became to install
a fascist regime in America
with Lyndon LaRouche as leader
and mobilized the country for a campaign of a global conquest.
LaRouche studied how Hitler and Mussolini came to power and concluded that he had to forge a coalition of American political, economic, and military elites willing to sponsor the overthrow of the American Republic and its real militant socialism.
You know what's sad? It's like, I don't even think this is true.
But why should I be a cuck and defend this guy when he created a movement of people that just slander everyone?
And they're getting slandered.
And what a cuck I would be if I would defend them from slander, you know?
One of the best of private intelligence services in the world,
Richard Morris, executive assistant to Judge William Clark, when the latter was President Reagan's National Security Advisor,
met with LaRood several times, and with LaRouche AIDS on new... Alexander Cowboy, what's up?
Because again, you know, they don't believe truth matters.
They think that all that matters is Leibnizian circles.
So that's why there's such an optical fucking disaster.
They don't even defend themselves.
I literally asked Daniel Burke, I'd be like, bro, is it true that, you know, like, you guys
worked with the CIA and he was like well
no and he would like explain in detail what it was I was like oh so you weren't trying
to attack the Soviet Union and he was like. I was like, why don't you
fucking say that in public? Why are you
letting these lies?
And he'd be like, well,
it's not important. The empirical
stuff, it's really the bigger
Leibnizian. Like, they would just
say shit like that
I'd be like why would I want to associate
with people who don't even fucking like
care about facts
you know
they think that you can just intuit
everything from first
principles and that you have the key to the universe you don't actually just intuit everything from first principles
and that you have the key to the universe
you don't actually have to like actually investigate
reality in any way
but to be fair like yeah I'm sure
there's fucked up things about La Roos
I'm sure there is I'm sure there's fucked up things about LaRouche. I'm sure there is.
I'm sure there is.
You know, they hated the Black Panthers, and already there's a fundamental schism.
Like, of course, Black Panthers every day, all day over the fucking cringe glasses wearing LaRushites. Yeah, I went there.
There's a lot more to say about Lerich.
He cultivated connections among the mobsters in the Teamsters Union.
He went to prison for five years.
Is that Nico Bellick from GTA4?
The fuck.
Because he instructed his followers to commit a massive financial fraud
and scam a ton of people out of their money.
And LaRooge had turned his attention to electoral politics
and he and his followers, Biggler.
So that begs the question of why Hinkle and Haas
seem to really like LaRouche.
Now it begs the question.
It's not like we actually, like, we're very superficial about it in the sense, like, we're pretty clear about what about LaRouche we liked.
Turns out to be things that have nothing to do with LaRouche uniquely,
but happened to be things LaRouche believed that also were in line with what Marxists believed, you know?
That's the whole mystery of our affiliation with LaRouche, as we would just tell Daniel Burke, we're like, oh, you know, y'all like China? That's great. We like China. Wow. Very profound. Like, we would literally just all the things that we had minimal common ground, we'd be like, great. But the things that we had minimal common ground we'd be like great but the things that were
uniquely lorush nothing that's the thing the things that were the uniquely laruscious philosophy
we had nothing in common with literally nothing nothing. Only the things that he stole
from other traditions interested us.
Nowadays, a mega-communist that usually don't talk directly about La Rooch and Eddie Smith
from Midwestern. Oh yeah, because we're hiding it, Brandon. That's what he's trying to insinuate here.
Like, we're hiding the truth.
We're hiding it.
We're not talking about this glaring thing.
Like, we're hiding...
We're not talking about him,
but it's like, long-key, the subtext of everything they say and do, right?
Fucking crazy.
Marx just outright denies that a Maca Communists are connected to
Larutism in any way, but Haas and Hinkle are very much
They're not. They're really not.
Because the connection in question was the Schiller Institute conference. That's it.
Midwestern Marx just outright denies that a macacomunus are connected to Larutism in any way.
They're not. Really, they're not.
Haas and Hinkle are very much fans of La Root. La Root is one
of the most profound theorists and thinkers.
How do I
explain diplomatically to... How do I give Daniel Burke a bone
and be like okay
it's literally a fucking participation
trophy I'm literally saying
you know
LaRouche may be a retard when it comes to
philosophy but I really like the idea of Bill LaRouche may be a retard when it comes to philosophy,
but I really like the idea of building trillions of nuclear fusion reactors and building a fucking land bridge from Alaska to Siberia.
That sounds really good.
I was like,
he's quite a profound,
one of the most profound thinkers
of policy.
I gave him policy,
like a policy idea.
Big ideas going on.
Notice what I omitted, though.
That's one of the things he doesn't have...
This guy, Brandon, has no discernment or intelligence.
Because you learn the truth by what I omit here.
Not philosophy... Because you learn the truth by what I omit here. Not, not philosophy, not politics, not organization, not strategy, not analysis even just policy
think about that for it
think about how vague and nebulous
that is can fucking mean anything
of a policy who's against nuclear fusion?
Who's against building up the productive forces?
Who's against it?
Who's against the land bridge?
It's all great.
Wonderful.
If only there was a way to get to that without like the choir singing and the triangles and the, you know, the fucking like...
dumb stupid cult shit that they do. That's literally fucking meaningless.
According to Haas and Hinkle
has been
associated in the
past
with the Schiller
Institute
an organization
founded
dude
dude
Schiller
you're not
you're making it
seem like
you're like an
anti-Semites
logic you know
when anti-Semites are. You know when anti-Semites are like,
you know,
it just so happens to be a coincidence.
You know,
when you think about it,
I learn this.
But you know That guy called Marx
It's just a coincidence
But it's like he's Jewish
Just so happens.
It's like something that follows.
You know, I looked up Marx's parents.
They were Jewish too.
It's like, no, that follows logically from
Marx being Jewish.
Of course his parents would be Jewish, right?
It's like, then this guy's like, you know, first they're just in isolation talking about LaRouche.
Uh-oh, what a coincidence.
They went to a Schiller Institute event.
No, you're mixing up the causes here.
The cause of our interaction with LaRouche is Daniel Burke from the Schiller Institute.
So there's no coincidence here.
It's a very specific chain of events.
No coincidences.
It's a very clear chain of events.
Oh, really?
Which continues to promote Laruchite ideology.
And even though...
Oh, really? Wow.
It's almost like we just randomly woke up and even though... Oh, really? Wow. It's almost like we just
randomly woke up and started
being diplomatic to
Daniel Burke for no reason about LaRouche.
Engle may now avoid directly mentioning LaRouche.
Yeah, we avoid mentioning LaRouche
because we're hiding. We're not mentioning him, but he's definitely has this enduring significance for us. Clear enduring and lasting relevance for us. You know, we're not, we're just not mentioning him, though.
But he still has this clear, enduring relevance and significance for us that we're just hiding, right?
Okay.
I'm so scared to mention LaRouche. He's just the secret patriarch behind our whole movement.
Hey, Brandon. LaRus, LaRus, LaRus, LaRus, LaRus, LaRus, LaRus, LaRus, LaRus, Lourouz, Lerus, Lourous, Linden, LaRus, Lundon, LaRouce, LaRouche, Lourouz, Linden, LaRouche, Lyndon, LaRouche, Lyndon, LaRouche.
The fucking scared of mentioning anything, you fucking idiot.
We don't mention him because he's not fucking relevant.
Fuck LaRouche.
Fuck Lerous.
Fuck Linden LaRouche.
And fuck Schiller too Yeah Which's influence is plain
In their ideology and rhetoric
Recall earlier all this talk
About the British
Quote unquote ruling America
Which both
Yeah I didn't say that though. What did what what did I read what I actually said you fucking idiot
I Zan Henkel have espoused a British financial cabal occupies America we have to liberate Canada from the British
Oh my God what what a coincidence.
Like, America was founded in a war of independence.
That's our only revolutionary...
It's just the, like...
You know, oh, my God, I just looked at the textbook, and it's like,, oh my God, it was a war against the British Empire.
Holy fuck.
Maybe like if we're trying to remain faithful to the American revolutionary tradition,
we're going to play up America's founding revolutionary identity
and contradistinction to the fucking British Empire, which we also just happen to inherit with the ascendancy of the American Empire in the post-war period. Wow, dude, you're such a genius. British globalist? What's all this business about British globalists and British financial couples? What's all this business? I don't know. Did you watch my fucking speech? Because I pretty, I explained it pretty. Again, again, it's the false posturing that this guy's like this curious detective who just so happens to stumble upon these conclusions because he's such a good detective
when in reality he has shoehorned the conclusion
already into the premise
so as to lead him to this false
you know false um conclusion right well it comes straight from the rich british
no it doesn't it comes from okay just do a devil's advocate thought experiment in your head.
If we are trying to affirm some kind of American national identity that is based
in our revolutionary tradition
meaning
we don't want to reject socialist
patriotism
and how
what would follow
as far as like who America's historical enemies are, its founding, and the circumstances surrounding America becoming a global imperialist power.
Wouldn't it be a compelling narrative at the very least for us to say that this was a result of the betrayal of our revolutionary founding?
And that in the process of that betrayal, we joined up with the british empire betraying our like the fundamental foundations of our nation it's like dude it's literally such a compelling
narrative and it's in fucking red dawn.
The Soviets in Red Dawn, when they're rounding up people into camps, literally have it played on loudspeakers.
That... have it played on loudspeakers that imperialist America has betrayed its revolutionary foundations just put two and two together you fucking idiot it's a logical
narrative any
but it's like
you know it's
William Z Foster's parents were
Fenians like are you stupid
there's nothing
this doesn't come from LaRouce, you idiot.
Where do you fucking think LaRouche got it?
You fucking moron!
LaRouche got it from
reading American thinkers
at the turn of the century.
LaRouce got it from reading history, and he took it.
He didn't invent it, you idiot.
It's always been part of America's revolutionary national identity.
Where did you think
LaRouche got it? Like, he didn't
invent this shit, you idiot.
It's like people who think LaRouche invented
the idea of unleashing the productive
forces. No,
he didn't.
Sinister, shadowy elements, which he and his followers
were supposedly fighting. He would refer to the British
oligarchy and claim that Britain is the number one enemy
of the United States, and this usage of British
has an even older history.
During World War II, the Nazis
effused anti-Sem. Remember what LaRouche was like,
you know I remember LaRouche was a meme
on like Rice Tube?
Like, yeah, I remember that shit.
That one based
gentleman, I'm not even going to mention him because
like,
only if you know, you know, right?
The dude who was, we were all on the same page about glasses and shit, you know?
That dude used to like make memes
like LaRouche. He'd like have a LaRouche and shit, you know. That dude used to, like, make memes.
Like, LaRouche.
He'd, like, have a LaRouce speech calling the British filthy and, like...
Oh my God.
I miss, like, that...
People don't understand
that was the context
like you don't get it you're fucking retard
right
he was always a joke
like he was always a joke
LaRouche was always a
joke to us literally
always a joke
Semitism with anti-Britic sentiment
condemning English. This retard
is taking his... Like, I wish
that, does that guy know what
heights the meme has been brought to?
Like, look at this. This video probably has
50,000 views by now. Like, we,
it started out as a meme and now it's here. That's fucking crazy.
This high finance and depicting the British Empire as the engine of Jewish rule. And this theme
has persisted among
neo-Nazis to this day. This is pretty clearly where
LaRouche got the idea of British finance ruling the world.
He just excised the explicit anti-Semitism.
He's like he's wearing sung-wise. It's just funny.
I don't know.
And developed his own elaborate conspiracy theory
to suit his particular brand of a fascist politics. One must begin with LaRouche elaborate conspiracy theory to suit his particular brand of a fascist of politics.
One must begin with LaRouche's conspiracy theory of history, which highlights the role
of deception and concealment in the transmission of ideology to the centuries.
In the secrets known only to the inner elites, LaRouche claims that he and his followers
represent a 3,000-year-old faction of neoplatonic humanists, locked in mortal struggle
with an equally ancient oligarchy. To avoid repression by the faction of neoplatonic humanists locked in mortal struggle with an equally
ancient oligarchy. To avoid repression by the dominant
oligarchy, the humanists through the centuries have
This video is called the nonsense of Maga
communism, by the way, and now we're
talking about a 3,000-year-old
Assassin's Creed thing.
We're to blame for this.
This is our fault.
Sealed their ideas in much the way
that an espionage agent conceals his identity.
Indeed, the humanist is a combination of spy
and underground organizer.
Leroux cites the example of St. Augustine,
who supposedly adopted Christianity as his cover for organizing a united fund against the oligarchy.
No, I'm on 2x Speed, by the way, and he's reading this. He's taking a lot of time to read this. It's really important for understanding
ACP, apparently.
Assures us that they destroyed all past societies. They captured... Yeah, ACP, um, ACP as in, uh, Assassin's Creed Pangea
because we're going 3,000 years into the past
we may as well go fucking
trillate of tens, hundreds of millions of years ago
when the fucking Pangia existed.
From Atlantis
through Roma,
3,000 years ago,
their headquarters
were in Babylon.
After they engineered his fall,
they shipped to their command post
lessward to Rome,
then Venice,
and finally,
What is this?
Why?
What is,
what did we,
all we did was pick up trash.
It's like,
what did we do? All we did. That's all we did was pick up trash it's like what did we do
all we did
that's all we did
what is this
to london unable to stop
humanist networks led by benjamin franklin
and fiderichiller from launching the industrial revolution
the oligarch struggled to slow it down
through their control of speculative capital, which allegedly
feeds like a vampire on productive capital. But the oligarchs
today are extremely worried because productive capital has begun
to link up with the powerful streamlined a humanist conspiracy
represented by the NCLC. According to LaRouche,
human history is Assassin's Creed.
I've seen people in the comments be like, great video.
This is like really good.
What?
A level in cabal has been oppressing humanity for eons and struggling with heroic neoplatonic humanists.
And he claimed that this cabal today manifests as as a British financial cartel which controls America.
Oh, okay, so...
All of that!
And then you finally got to the thing that vaguely sounds familiar to what I said,
which was the Anglo-American elite slide in my speech.
Okay, so apparently you have to believe in a 3,000-year-old battle of a platonic neo-platonic humanists in Babylon
apparently you need to believe that shit
to accept the very simple fact
that there was a profound degree of admixture
both in blood and in
finance between the ascendant American capitalist monopoly class and the established British financial oligarchy.
Apparently, in order, in order to even entertain the conclusion that there was some continuity
between the British Empire, world capitalist hegemon, and the one that literally came
right after,
you must believe in the Babylonian 3,000 year old
a neo-humanist
fuck man, what is this?
Like fuck, what?
No one thinks
with awareness, you know?
Speaking of 3,000 years, it's like
the Anunaki,
I must be descendant of the Anunaki.
I'm one of the only ones with my third eye
fucking open, because apparently that's
what it takes to have the bare minimum
of conscious awareness to understand
how retarded and illogical
the line of argument we're being
presented here is. Like, you
have to believe all that crazy shit
LaRouce thought to accept the simple fact that there was an Anglo-American establishment, even though that idea didn't originate with LaRouche at all and is actually true from a factual historical level.
This is just a variation on the traditional fascist idea about a secret financial cabals ruling the world.
Um,
I don't think it's fascist.
I don't.
I think it's just a fucking,
another crazy cult in America.
I really think so.
I don't think you need,
I don't think there needs to be a comparison
to fascism,
because fascism literally just said the Jews.
Um,
and sapping nations of their
productivity and vitality but this specific form
originates with Lyndon LaRouch and it's obvious
yeah again
you know it was
Marxists who
opposed the productivity
of the
material you know base with the the productivity of the material
base with
the capitalist elite
who were clearly retarding the forces
of production and stagnating them
and sapping them, which is what Marx
said actually.
In Capital Volume 3, he said
the rentier, the
financial capitalists,
they are parasites upon
the productive
capitalists. That's what Mark said in volume 3.
He said that in volume three all right
why are you why are you calling this a fascist notion i don't know so that this is where has and hinkle
again this is a he's taking advantage because people watching this aren't educated about
marxism let alone marism, Leninism.
So when we espouse things that you need Marxist education and Marxist Leninist education to understand the context of, instead of him introducing them to that, he's like, well, actually, this is what's behind it.
It's this Babylonian thing from thousands of years ago.
Are getting this idea?
I don't know to what extent do they believe this literally.
I think British is more of a signifier.
It's esoteric of fascist rhetoric, which allows them to signal their affinity for the root.
A fascist cult leader who tried...
Yeah, that's what I...
You know what? You're so right. At the Free America Conference with Jackson, we needed to signify our affiliation with LaRouche.
Look at him.
He's doing the Hitler salute.
Look at that.
But we needed to, that was the goal of that whole conference,
was to give coded subliminal messages to Charmhole
about Lyndon LaRouche
building laser death beams
to destroy the USSR
Lasz
Wow, that's another thing.
So that's Lyndon LaRch, but there is yet another major intellectual influence on
macro-communism, one which a megacomunist acknowledge.
You know, to be fair, I would say that infrared and myself are definitely influenced by the philosopher Alexander Dugan.
Like, that would be fair to say. But the party is not.
Um, in any way, the party is not.
I am one of the only people, the party is not.
I am one of the only people in the party who has read Dugan.
I think I'm the only one in leadership
who's actually read Dugan. Maybe Jackson
has, I don't know.
But, I mean, granted I'm chairman, but
Dugan's ideas are not on our reading list,
they're not mandatory, but I have a very specific
dialogue with Dugan's philosophy,
which is out in the open.
It's not a secret, and you can read it yourself.
Much more openly, and that's Alexander Dugan.
So let's talk about him.
Alexander Dugan was born on January 7th,
1962. His father was a colonel in Soviet intelligence,
and the details of his earlier life are unclear and
contradictory for whatever reason. Doogan began his
political activity in the 1980s first joining a secret
group of Moscow intellectuals who dabbled in
a cold neo-Nazizama, which is a great start.
One of Bugan's contributions to the group.
The Russian underground dissident scene was super edgy
and it was edginess, you know?
When you understand neo-Nazism in russia you have to understand it as a concrete thing you can't just say this like group of edgy larpers um trying to be shocking and provocative um that that's the essence of neo-nazism.
You have to actually analyze, importantly, violence and rhetoric against Russia's minorities.
That was what
made neo-Nazism decisively
a real phenomenon,
right? It was about the sentiment
against Russia's national minorities,
ethnic minorities,
which Dugan never participated in.
was translating the work of Italian fascist philosopher Julius Ovella, who famously called himself a...
Um...
It would not be too unfair to say if Ola was a fascist
but
the tradition of
he's coming from was traditionalism
which comes from Reneguenon
and Dugin absolutely engaged
with this tradition but he always actually rejected...
Fascism is a concrete historical phenomenon.
Like, he rejected Nazi Germany and Mussolini's Italy always.
Super fascist. Later in the 1980s, Dugin moved away from neo-Nazism and toward Russian
ultra-nationalism. He joined the anti-Semitic ultra-nationalist organization, Pemyat, and sat on its
central council. As the Soviet Union approached collapse, Dukin visited the West and made contact
with leading figures in the European new right, and the experience appears to have freely influenced the development of Dugin's political philosophy.
I want to show you an interesting article Dugan wrote about his views on the European right.
Ah, what the hell? Where the hell is it?
So off Google, I think I have to look on fucking Yandex.
Ah, here it is okay so this so this is um he wrote this in 2004 but uh duyin um here sorry what the hell is my mike it's called lenin avatar of rage red avatar rage you know i said i used to hate Leninus, yada, yada, yada, yada.
But something changed, you know.
All the people that were the worst scum started denouncing Lenin, you know?
But here he says something I like, uh, where I found, or I found it interesting, he said.
Uh, Lenin declared he was a
magic Eurasian dwarf
who raised jihad on
the world of exploiters
smash the brain of the Philistine
Motivized the nation for a total
up people
let me find
the thing
that
that I
wanted to
point out
though
here
some
some some okay look in europe i met many guanonians and evolians some of them were sloppy
schizophrenics others obedient and politically correct
Philistines. They work in banks
marketing. They're a bunch
of misfits and capable of original
thinking, deeds.
I don't endorse this, but
whatever, or any effective historical
action of the slightest importance.
The only thing they do is whine and squabble over trivia and grumble around at the world around,
which they don't understand and are pathologically afraid of.
So it kind of sounds like a lot of this contact he makes with the European
New Right does not reflect his expectations. The actual new right, I mean, he doesn't really,
he starts saying that the Red Brigades and theF. is a hundred times more attractive than the majority
of these European traditionalists. So it's interesting, you know, because it's not a one-sided
picture. This guy's trying to paint a one-sided picture. It's just, if you know a Houdugan is, it's not true.
That, uh, that he is a far right. It's not true. He is a uniquely Russian thinker and the Western
political, uh, access of political difference doesn't make full sense in the Russian context. For example, the National Bolshevik Party, I was not always confident in saying this, but I am now. National Bolshevik Party in Russia was most definitely a radical left-wing party, and it
still has that association. To this day, no one in Russia associates it with Nazism. No one.
I asked about the flag, by the way.
I literally asked.
I said, look, why is that flag looking like that?
And why is it called National Bolshevik?
It sounds like National Socialist.
They told me,
Limonov was this provocateur who
was trying to mock
the
red-brown
accusations that were coming from the new Yeltsin elites.
So he did this to troll them, basically, is what I was told.
Maybe they were wrong, but that's what I was told.
But I know for a fact that they were a left-wing phenomenon in Russia.
Absolutely they were.
If you travel to go to Russia, travel there and talk to people, you will learn the truth.
They are associated with the radical left.
I always were. Even ultra-left, actually. You see, we sympathize more with the KPRF, but KPRF are much more moderately left wing compared to these guys.
These guys were radical anarchists in a way, you know.
So it's very much misunderstood thing in the West because of their name and their flag.
In 1993, he co-founded the National Bolshevik Party, National Socialism, National
Bolshevism, mega-communism, same shit.
Dugin.
Oh man. Really no. Really no. Really no. In the case of the National Bolsheviks, it's so stupid. Why would you show the ACPs?
93. He co-founded the National Bolshevik Party,
National Socialism, National Bolshevism,
Maga-Communism.
But this is the ACP
logo. This is not a Maga-Communist logo.
What are you talking about?
Also, the National Bolshevik
thing was deliberate at trolling uh so okay fine but why acp what did we do
oh because i i am philosophically influenced by duin i got it. Yeah.
I guess that makes everything Nazi, you know.
That's really brilliant reasoning there, you know. No one...
Don't even read what I said about Dugan.
Just do this thing of this logical fallacy
of guilt by association.
And that's all you need to do, you know.
Ugin's career as an intellectual took off in the 1990s, particularly with his publication of the foundation of geopolitics in 1997, which quickly became influential among Russian nationalists and elite.
And he goes, it's so funny, like national socialism is the same as national.
No, it's not.
It's a fundamentally distinct phenomenon.
Because the national Bolsheviks were not engaging in violent pogroms against minorities and they also sociologically and materially had nothing in common with Nazism.
Only aesthetically, there seemed to be something with the flag in the name. But materially speaking, according to the analysis of the common turn in the 1930s, no, fascism is a specific phenomenon.
Perry circles, and his ideology is basically just Russian imperialist nationalism, calling for a vast Russian empire,
which absorbs all of the former Soviet Union,
dominates Europe, and drives the U.S. back to the Western hemisphere.
God forbid NATO gets abolished.
Western sources are sometimes prone to exaggerating Dugan's influence in Russia,
and making it sound as though Dugin is writing Russian foreign policy, which he isn't,ating Dugan's influence in Russia and making it sound as though
Dugan is writing Russian foreign policy, which he isn't,
but Dugan is... Oh yeah, Dugan has
no influence, sure. Believe what you want.
Sorry, anyway.
Still a prominent intellectual, with a good deal
of influence in the Russian political and military establishments.
He is a leading intellectual of the ultra-nationalist of our right in Russia.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
That would be Antonovsky.
Again, dude, it's not true. It's not fucking true like i try to not be a bullshitter and i'm just
going to tell you the truth about what's going on in russia's political scene if dougan was
ever affiliated with the far right, that was an older generation. There's a new
red-white war going on in Russia's cultural intellectual sphere about the legacy of Bolshevism and the Russian Revolution, with the new
far right being like O'Canonist. That all comes from the guys from the telegrams, Sons of the
Monarchy, led by a guy named Antonovsky.
And on the left side is Zahar Prylepin.
Comrade Zachar
Prelepin. He
is the bulwark of defending
the integrity and history of Bolshevik Revolution and the Soviet era and communist ideas in general in the literary, and intellectual, philosophical scene, I would say.
And Dugan is not in the middle, but he is closer to Kamrad Zakhar. He is closer. He is closer to comrade Zachar.
He is closer.
He is closer.
Not all the way there,
but he's more sympathetic.
That is why
Dugan likes
me and Jackson.
He doesn't buy
into the
far right
at least
not fully.
So there is a far right
in Russia. Dugan is not the leader of the far right in Russia.
Because also there's a few things the far right in Russia is characterized by.
One is the historical revisionism, anti-Sovietism, anti-communism.
That doesn't characterize Dugan at all. The second thing is, this is the most important thing I would argue because it has more material significance. This kind of Russia as a whitean identity versus eurasianism and dougan is much more the latter
he's fully the latter dougan rejects the notion of a right russian ethno state state. He wants to embrace all of Russia's ethnic and national
minorities into one Eurasian identity that includes all of them. And that makes him distinct from the far right, because the far right is playing up on a lot of
anti-immigrant and anti-minority sentiments and um ethnic hatred and ethnic exclusion about Muslims and about all these minorities and so on and Dugan is left wing with respect to that.
He's Eurasian. He's a
Eurasianist.
There are so many nuances here, but
Dugan is not the leader of the far right in Russia. That's a ridiculous claim.
Which makes it very strange that
a mega-communist display such admiration for
Dugan, Hinkle and Haas, like Dugin.
No, because we actually understand Russia, and
you don't know a fucking thing except Wikipedia,
you fucking moron.
Really, really like Dugan. According to
Haas, Marxist theory in the West is meaningless without the insights of Duggen, Jackson Hinkle Paul.
You know what? I'll fucking die on that hill.
Every fucking philosopher who is able to advance human thinking forward under the nose of retarded Western Marxists needs to be given tribute for inadvertently contributing to the advance of Marxist Leninist thinking.
And I actually will die on the hill that Dugan has contributed to that indirectly.
And I argue elaborately why.
I have an argument, and you haven't engaged with it.
You just, again, are playing up this guilt by association shit instead of addressing the content of my argument.
Paul's him, one of the greatest man alive today and has and Hinkle have conducted
crushing interviews with Bugin himself a number of times.
Dugan is great.
He is a great
thinker and a great human being.
Infinity for Dugin goes a long way
to explain the multi-polarity fixation
of a magacomunists.
Magacomunists are obsessed
with multi...
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, it's all because of Dugan. Right, that's so true.
But why did I take interest in Dugan to begin with, though?
Have you explored that or no, it doesn't matter, I guess.
All right.
Sure, whatever you say.
You're the expert on me.
You know more than me.
I've been a fucking Marxist since 2010.
But you know more about who I am and why I'm influenced by who I'm influenced by
it's all it's all because of LaRouche and the Babylonian of a neoplatinus
they are very radically anti-Western they present their anti-Westernism
as a Marxist anti-imperialism
but in fact it clearly stems from their
far-right ideology. They see the liberal West as to
woke and they find ideological kinship with right-wing
anti-liberal forces outside the West. Their anti-liberalism
is a fascist rather than Marxist.
How?
So their adulation of Dugin, who most definitely is not...
Okay, hold on. Their anti-liberalism is not Marxist, it's fascist.
Hence, their friendliness with Dugan.
But we have to establish Dugan as a fascist first in order for that chain of reasoning to be correct.
An anti-imperialist thinker, and they mix it with this idea of the British financial cabal ruling the West, and hence that their...
I think it's true that the
that the capitalist class concretely does take the form of a developed imperial hegemony that originates with the British Empire, but has evolved since then, obviously. But it's not like, you know, it's become this diverse, all-inclusive, global, in the sense of, like, representing all cultures. No, because the Turkish capitalist class is a Comprador class. The capitalist class in all nations are Comprador classes in the chain of the system of imperialism. And only the people that were there from the beginning
have maintained their hegemony.
Their support for Russia and China to fight this international cabal and Jackson Hinkle
lives in Moscow now.
We support Russia and China to fight the
concrete imperial hegemony that rules the world today, the American global empire.
Not the British, the American global empire, you know, because the British Empire was absorbed or at least fused with the global American Empire, you know, so...
There's no need to talk about the British Empire here.
Now, apparently...
Very plainly, it's a unipolar hegemon led by the U.S., which we, of course, support Russia and China against.
Now, make the connection to fascism, please.
Permanently, take from that what you will, however...
Okay. What, is Russia now, LaRouche? what you will.
Okay.
What?
Is Russia now LaRouche?
Haaz and Henkel are also invested in presenting a communist disguise.
They claim to be Marxist, a Leninist.
Dude, I was a Marxist, Leneninist probably before you even fucking knew how to spell the name of Karl Marx.
You probably spelled it as M-R-M-A-R-C-K-S before, you know.
And they're invested in keeping up this pretense and proclaiming themselves the only true communist organization in America. The disguise thing is so retarded, it makes no sense. Why do we need a disguise when everyone is just openly being a fucking Hitler right now? We would get way more money in followers if we did that. Why
would we need to... Why?
What's the point of this theory
that we're disguising ourselves?
...championing a far-right ultra-nationalist
philosopher kind of complicates...
But all the nuances are lost on you, you fucking retard. It's like Dugin is not a neo-Nazi. He's not a fascist. He's just not a Marxist. No one said he's a Marxist. He's a non-Marxist thinker that I find to be very valuable in the synthesis of a new Marxism
or a new uh uh application of Marxism to the 21st century
efforts to pose as communists so they just deny that you get in it why would we pose as
communists what's the point of that?
You fucking retard?
What's the fucking point to steal
Hassan Pikes, who are not even
communists?
According to Haas, the idea
that Dugan is a fascist is a myth invented
by liberals... Thank God you fucking
at least have some familiarity with
the actual argument.
But you're not even citing the argument.
You're just simplifying it.
And woke leftist. Dogan is just misunderstood
and unfairly maligned. That's true. And I explain
how that is and why that is.
Will you engage with that?
Hold on. You're not even going to engage with the argument.
You're just going to use it as an indictment on me that say that I'm disguising myself.
Dugin, a fascist. Hinkle characterizes Dugin as the foremost philosopher of a multi-polarity.
He's not a fascist. He's a great anti-imperialist thinker.
This is helped by the fact that Dugin himself denies that he's a fascist.
And what would be your response to them, that the notion that you are somehow a fascist
or adjacent to fascism or something like that.
I reject radically a metaphysical basis
of liberalism, individualism, modernity,
idea of progress, linear time,
and I am not, I reject as well
enlightenment in general, and modernity, western
modernity, as hegemonic process.
In the same time, I refuse communism and fascism.
And I have written my book, Forced Political Theory, that clearly stated my position.
So according to Dugin, he isn't a fascist, he just rejects a modernity, the idea of progress
and the alignment in an...
So did Ayatollah Khomeini and hassan
Nasrallah by the way entirely non-fascistic way okay okay just like Khomeini are you
gonna say Iran is fascist but whether you want to apply the label of a fascist...
He just said, okay, so what do you fucking...
What are you going to say now?
What's your argument?
What's your counter argument, Brandon?
Zeruny with the 25. Wow, man. Thank you.
To Dugan's politics, and I think
Dugan is definitely a fascist, but setting
that aside. Why are you setting that aside?
Your whole argument hinges on the
idea that he's a fascist in order
to prove that we're wearing a communist
disguise to promote fascism.
Don't fucking run away from it now.
Wow, William Jennings with the 21.
Wow, man. Thank you.
Aside, even if you dispute that Dugin is a fascist,
he is undeniably far right and ultra nationalist.
No, but how is he far right?
And ultra-nash...
Dude, you don't know what you're fucking talking about.
It's so frustrating.
You've never been to Russia.
You don't know anything about Russian politics.
If you knew 1% anything about Russian politics. If you knew 1% anything about Russian politics, A, he's not
far right. The far right people want to reverse and dismantle the whole legacy of communism
and they hate the non-white minorities. That's not Dugent. He's not far right.
Okay. Second, the thing about ultranationalism, that can have two potential meanings. is ethnic nationalism that is indeed affiliated with
the global right but that's not dougan he's a eurasianist it's an inclusive kind of it's not
he rejects nationalism uh he rejects nationalism he said nationalism is a european principle of the
nation state he says we support civilization states which that's what he calls russia is because
it's not one nation according to him.
So calling him an ultra-nationalist is wrong. Now, if you want to talk about he has
great power projections for Russia,
you know,
sure, but
you know, that's kind of the only
bare minimum of an anti-imperialist position you can have in Russia
because that's the position that is inversely proportional
to the hegemony of the basically the U.S. legacy of U.S. occupation and the restoration of Soviet power, basically.
He doesn't say that is restoration of Soviet power, but the Russians who are patriotic, who want to expand Russia and in some way restore its territorial integrity, those are the consistent opponents of American unipolar hegemony.
And they do not affirm any kind of racism.
Because it means mixing with more minorities and restoring Soviet era diversity.
And this doesn't look like an ingenious 18D chess synthesis of Dugan's philosophy with Marxism.
But how would you know? Because you don't even know, you didn't even like, well, I don't know if you, it would matter if you made an effort.
I don't know if you have the cognitive capacity to even, how would you know?
You don't even have the cognitive capacity to like like, actually follow through any kind of reading of what I've written on the matter.
You don't know.
Yes, it could very well be a really brilliant 18D chess synthesis or application of Dugan's ideas
or interpretation of
Dugan under the lens of Marxism.
You wouldn't know because you're not even
intelligent enough to comprehend
apparently
the specific
philosophical position I articulate.
As in Hinkle want to portray, it just looks like two American far-right ultra-nationalists taking inspiration from a Russian far-right...
It looks like this. I haven't done any reading. I don't know anything about who Dugan is. I haven't read him.
I haven't read what Haas has said about him.
I didn't watch Haas's lectures about him.
But it definitely looks this way.
What a credible, what a profound, brilliant line of
argumentation here.
Ultra nationalist. Before I wrap up the video, I want to talk about the nature of reactionation here. Ultra nationalist. Before I wrap up
the video, I want to talk about the nature of
reactionary... Okay.
Wow. He really summed it
up right there. He devoted
roughly 10 minutes
to Dugan. He wrapped it up by saying, you know, it really looks like these are just two far right guys who like this far right philosopher. Mind you, I haven't actually like engaged with anything they've said in any detail about him.
And I don't know anything about him either, about where he stands within Russian politics today or his specific philosophical outlook or Haas's engagement with that
philosophy. But it
definitely does look this way if you're uninformed
and ignorant about the actual
details. It definitely looks this way if you're
uninformed. That's, Brandon, you're so
smart. You know, to an uninformed,
uneducated person, it definitely looks this way.
Wow, man.
Brilliant.
Expoise on the ACP.
Politics and how macro-communism helps us to understand it.
Reactionaries have something in common with leftists.
They are discontented with the present estate of things. They are disenchanted with the status quo they feel aggrieved and frustrated they believe that there is something deeply and fundamentally wrong about society they feel anxious and upset about modern life they have a sense of disempowerment and subjugation but they believe that the answer is to return to older social forms They think restoring some imagined vision of the past is going to solve their problems.
Yeah, we're totally going to return to like the United American Republic,
a United Republic of America, where, you know, we have this unity of the
USA in Canada, and it's, you know, unleashing technology to an unprecedented degree and accelerating
AI.
And you look at our
ACP party program and it's just a total
return to the past. That's
what you, that's what our party evokes.
And the problems of their society,
they think the problem is a moral and spiritual
degeneration, which they define as the subversion
and corruption of the dominant culture,
and they inevitably develop elaborate conspiracy theories
and esoteric mythologies to explain their worldview.
Yeah, that's totally our program.
That's totally what it is.
As their worldview is devoid of scientific
rationality, they think for storing and radically strengthening
patriarchal norms, attacking these favorite groups, whether on the basis of ethnicity, religion, gender, or sexuality,
eliminating rabble-rousers who divide the culture and nation with ideas like class struggle.
They think all of this will rejuvenate society and restore lost glory.
Fascism is different from socialism or Marxism, in that it isn't really a single ideology
as much as a class or collection of
chedessend the white ethno-nationalism
characteristic of neo-Nazism and suited his form of fascism
to the American context. But LaRouche's ideology
was still very much fascist. There is some universe out there
where conditions were different and LaRouche became the
Why? Why? I mean, he doesn't even make an argument.
Fascist ruler of America and that universe is horrifying.
Because LaRouche wanted unlimited power or something, right? What a fucking idiot. This is so stupid.
This is ultimately what the mega-communism is.
It's an Americanized form
of fascism with roots in the ideology
of Lyndon LaRouche in a few...
I mean, like, who
watches this video and sees
this conclusion is like,
wow!
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
It all makes sense now.
This is an American form of nationalism.
Not Nick Flintes
and the actual Patriot front
people
not the actual like rising
like neo-nazic oh my god
this is it
oh my god
every single
point I made in this video
was systematically dismantled
in a five-hour fucking stream
because that's how stupid it was.
I'd have to literally go to painstaking lengths
to explain how fucking stupid it was.
But wow!
This is ultimately what it is.
It's like he's...
I have totally built a coherent
line of argumentation that totally
succeeds in culminating in this conclusion.
It's not like I began with this conclusion
and just inserted it into the premise
from the very beginning.
It's not like I began with this conclusion
and just allowed it to
fucking bias every single fucking engagement with everything
they've ever said and just assumed it was true without proving it.
I have successfully been a detective and just uncovered this
conclusion in a totally unbiased way.
I totally didn't begin with it from the start.
Used with the ideas of a far-right ultra-nationalist a Russian philosopher, to make a communist, America is a country besieged by moral and cultural subversion.
When have we said subversion?
Notice that.
When did we say that? The version orchestrated by a shadowy international financial papal.
No, we said that there is a decay corresponding to the decay of capitalism and that the ruling capitalist class
is profiteering off of that that's what we said while we decay they are sucking us
dry.
Like a vampire.
Just like Mark's described
Capital, in Capital
Volume 1.
Americans need to unite across class lines
to defeat this cabala.
What do you mean? Our party says the future belongs to the working class. All it talks us about is a united working class. When does ACP talk? Oh, you're talking about the Institute for Free America with the Popular Front thing.
Well, that's not
quite fascist class
unity, now is it? It's just the same
thing. But it's not
even ACP, like these guys
so fundamentally confused.
All right? First of all, the popular front against monopoly capital
is not class collaboration. It is the class leadership exclusively of the proletariat of the whole
people, which, and without recognition of their class,
um,
class,
uh,
distinctions.
Only class that's recognized under the principle of the popular front is still
just the proletariat.
By contrast, fascist class unity gives explicit recognition to discrete different classes
that are represented by specific institutions, and the unity is institutionalized the class unity is institutionalized okay
the popular front doesn't do that because it doesn't recognize at the level of political
principle any class except the proletariat.
Now, finally, the ACP only ever talks about the working class and the unity of the working class.
Restore traditional values rejuvenate the, and engage in vigorous territorial expansion.
At the same time, Madocon.
Yeah, yeah, vigorous territorial expansion.
You pulled it out of your ass.
Cherry picked a Jackson tweet from 20, released actual statements officially condemning.
Any encroachment upon sovereignty and self-determination,
any forceful annexation, we rejected it,
but, you know, apparently Jackson's tweet from
23, which is
120 characters
or something, is more authoritative.
Communist at Tritadadon,
a communist aesthetic to fool people, which also isn't
unprecedented.
Hey, you fucking retard.
Again, I'm going to begin,
I'm going to end this with what I began with.
Let me change this.
In the history of a fascist movements,
all fascist movements.
Okay, the problem with the comparison
that you're trying to make
is that Nazism adopted a socialist disguise because there was actually a big socialist movement to hijack. Just like with Italian fascism.
What have we hijacked that exists in America right now or any Western country? What are we stealing?
What are we hijacking? Hakim's YouTube videos? Like, what are we stealing what are we hijacking hakeem's youtube videos like what are we stealing what are we
hijacking in order to make the comparison meaningful the circumstances have to be comparatively meaningful
like there was this revolutionary sentiment
because of the October Revolution
that created this overall atmosphere of revolutionary change
and fascists hijacked a lot of that
to fulfill the dictatorial goals of monopoly capital, right?
That's what happened.
Where is our Bolshevik revolution right now in 2025?
Where is it? Where's the comparable zeitgeist? Where's the
specter of communism that's just looming over us that we are hijacking and disguising ourselves under?
It makes no sense that we would disguise herself as communists if we were fascist.
It makes no fucking sense, okay?
No sense at all.
It's literally the dumbest theory I've ever heard in my life.
Have harkened back to an idealized glory age, which needs to be revived.
For the Nazis, it was the image of the medieval German peasant,
the idea of a blood and soil.
For the Italian fascist, it was the Roman Empire,
whose glory and prestige they wanted to restore.
For a mega-communist, I think their nostalgia is really directed
toward this idealized conception of the post-war United States
from the 1940s to the...
What?
All right. The Nazis
wanted to return
to the Middle Ages.
Mussolini wanted to return to the Roman
Empire.
And Mussolini wanted to return to the Roman Empire and ACP wants to return to the 50s There are multiple
I thought we were just going to wrap it up
This is going to take like five minutes
But you know the issue is, is that when communists refer to fascism as reactionary,
we don't literally think that Mussolini was, like, really returning the Roman Empire.
Because the idea of restoring lost past glory
is not exclusively fascist.
You know, in the Stalin era, many references were made
to the czardom of Muscovy and the greatness of the first kind of russian empire
it's not an exclusively fascist thing china's doing it today when it comes to their great civilization um musilini was not reactionary because he talked about the roman empire
he was a reactionary because within the concrete historical circumstances of italy at the time
he was actually trying
to maintain
a condemned status quo
and you think well that just means you're conservative but no
in a in a revolutionary
era when you are
trying to sabotage and thwart revolutionary change,
you are definitionally a reactionary.
Reactionaries are not necessarily people who want to return to a
specific point in time.
There are also people who
are trying to preserve a status quo
amidst revolutionary change.
By
violent means.
That's the key word.
The difference between a reactionary and a conservative is that conservatives might be skeptical of revolution.
But only when they actively become counter-revolutionaries, do they become reactionaries?
And that's what Mussolini and Hitler were.
They were reactionaries, first of all, with respect to changes going on in the nature of capitalism.
Both Mussolini and Hitler were champions.
This is truth.
They were reactionaries because they represented classical laissez-faire capitalism against the trend of more socialization and socialism.
The Nazis pioneered privatization, for example, right?
So it wasn't medieval Germany that they were reactionaries longing for they were longing for
an era where the working class had no seat at the table in politics they were longing for an
era where reforms didn't need to be made they were longing for an era where capitalism had a classic form
instead of the one assumed after the New Deal,
in the U.S., for example,
or in Britain under the labor government.
Or in Germany Germany that was
being overseen by the social democrats
so they were reactionary
with respect to that
um
yeah the so-called heroic stage
of capitalism you know it's a very specific thing it wasn't the literal mythology was not materially relevant sir they weren't literally turning into the middle ages in 1970s this golden age of prosperity and national harmony, when America was
an industrial powerhouse and conservative cultural values
reign supreme with the strong industrial working
man who had the authority over his wife, this
vision of the past, ways... Dude, what is
like, what are you fucking...
Who had the authority over his wife? It's such a
specific, strange thing to say.
When labor was in a strategically much stronger position, there's nothing wrong with
evoking imagery that corresponds to a period when organized labor had much more power and leverage than it does now okay
this specific weird stuff you're talking about about husbands and wives whatever, just please keep it in your pants,
dude. Nobody wants to hear about your fucking psychosexual analysis. We are interested in the
twists and turns of class politics and the strategy for labor.
I don't know what you're fucking talking about.
heavily on the minds of a macro-communist.
Now, I do think that the post-war era was better than contemporary America in numerous ways.
It really was an era of a broad prosperity and progress relative to now.
America was a much more equal society back then.
Unions were at their peak, and the balance of power between labor and capital was much more... We're not literally trying to return. If we were trying to return to that time, we wouldn't be communists.
But it makes sense that maybe in some of our members' adjut prop, maybe it reminds you of the 50s because that was a time when
labor had more political sovereignty it had more political power um that doesn't mean we're literally
trying to return to that.
We aspire toward a future.
We're not trying to go to the past.
Toward labor, the gains of economic growth and productivity were shared much more broadly.
Housing was a lot more...
This way.
Like, if you're a Soviet communist, I mean, obviously, the USSR was a socialist
country. It's like, if you're in China, they evoke imagery from the cultural revolution.
They evoke imagery in Russia today from Soviet times. It's not just because those were more
radically left-wing periods.
It's also because they're
evoking imagery from a tradition
where labor or the proletariat
had more power, you know?
It doesn't mean they're literally
trying to return to that.
It was genuinely...
Nebulous analysis of aesthetics
as all these fucking people do.
Golden age in many ways.
But that's not what metacomunists are focusing on.
It's not the social democracy they care about.
It's this vision of a culturally conservative and traditional
America and in Dutch...
Dude, you realize I'm literally
a fucking Arab? Like, I don't
know what this is. You're showing me something
that is fundamentally foreign to me.
My tribal Arab
traditional values
are definitely not anchored
or definitely don't hinge upon
whatever this you're showing me is.
Please shut the
fuck up and stop assuming that just because anyone has a sense of traditional culture it means it's the 50s
the reason the 50s was so quote unquote traditional was just because the working class had much more power and leverage than it does now.
Therefore, society was built around its values for the most part.
For better and for worse, too, by the way, you know, but it's just the truth.
A Soviet Union today in Russia is seen as more actually more traditional. Women may have had more...
That's not true, you know. That's why i don't understand where people are coming from they're
like oh russia regressed for women's rights i agree because the rise of the sex industry and
capitalism devastated opportunity but women in russia today are still
very career oriented they're very much that did not reverse you know they're very much empowered at
workplaces or whatever like soviet times though people were
dressed more modestly and there was more traditional family values than now and there was more
um you know it's just the truth capitalism does promote a type of fundamental disturbance of
social harmony it's just true i'm not saying that the 50s, the status of women was great, and that we should return to that.
But I'm just attacking this idea that if you believe in traditional cultural values of some kind, that means you're trying to return to the 50s. That's not true.
The image of the heterosexual, industrial, working man patriarch, as opposed to the gay female or effeminate risa,
his paradise lost.
But you know what nuance you will never,
and this is a good way to like kind of wrap this up?
You know the nuance you'll never accept in this dichotomy you're creating?
What about the blue-collar female?
What about her?
What about the blue-collar working-class woman?
Why does she not exist to you?
Why does it have to be the barista or the man why can't you also recognize that women wear jumpsuits
too and there are women truckers as well and there are women in the blue collar working class as well
because we recognize that.
And it's not lost on us.
But why is it lost on you?
You'll be like, well,
because the service sector is more coded female.
And then, you know what?
Why are you trying to like reinforce that though?
Why are you defending that?
It's a bad thing that we have this service sector that's made for women to enslave them, basically.
And... made for women to enslave them basically and you're trying it's like i'm the feminist now and you're upholding this patriarchal system you know where where what we're just going to endorse
like quote unquote women's work now and institutionalize that?
What do you mean?
And destroyed by sinister powers that be who have corrupted the culture and sapped to the nation's productivity.
That's true.
No, we've explained the breakdown of culture in pretty clear Marxist terms, all right?
It's pretty clear that capitalism is for-profit, and things that are for-profit are not going to reflect the needs of a civilization.
Okay, so it's going to lead to a lot of problems and decay and confusion.
It's going to devastate, family life is going to be devastated if families can't make a fucking bottom line.
They can't fucking survive materially, you know, it's pretty simple.
Really what a megacommunism is?
Wow, very profound.
All right.
All right.
That was a lot.
Five hours. all right um that was a lot five hours and seven god help the editors god help the editors is all i can say
god help the editors
but um you God help the editors. But, um...
You guys...
You know, I don't want to repeat myself ever again.
I don't ever want to repeat myself ever again.
All right.
Like, that's the takeaway.
On July 21st. Uh, yeah.
Wow, it's already at 25,000, 22,000.
I don't ever want to repeat myself again.
That's all I could say.
And he also removed my comment that's great i actually commented on it and he removed it and he removed it
because it was getting too many likes Yeah, he removed it.
That's okay because we're doing a full assault on this video response.
And this video from the stream will be edited and uploaded.
And Eddie is also working on one.
So there we go.
Pretty thorough.
I'm hungry and tired.
I didn't eat dinner.
What's going on? All right, I mean, that was a pretty thorough destruction.
Um... guys a baby could destroy that slop.
So why did I have to do it?
That's what I want to know. I took five hours doing this.
I took five hours doing that.
Five hours, you know?
This needs to get uploaded.
It's all I could say.
Hope you guys heard that too.
All right, guys.
We're going to wrap it up we're gonna wrap it up.
Don't say I don't give you content.
Did you guys want,
do you guys like the MS paint thing?
Because I feel like I did that before, actually.
I feel like I've done it before,
that specific diagram.
How did you guys like it?
Did it actually, like, simplify things a lot for you?
I feel like it was, like, the way I visualized it was, like, always in my head and I always take it for granted
but like I wonder if that was like helpful to you
the way I like visualized it
you know because it's like most
people just see the base and superstructure
but it's like that's classic
Marxism in a way.
Like Marxism, Leninism has a more
dynamic and complex
comprehension
of that, you know?
And
I hope it's helpful
to you guys. I hope it will helpful to you guys.
I hope it will help you in your worldview, you know?
Maybe what we'll do is like, we'll clip that and have that be a separate thing
and then the rest of it will be like
the takedown, you know?
Yeah. All right guys. See you later.
Bye-bye. I'll see you Tuesday, I think. Bye-bye.