Confronting My DERANGED Haters
2022-04-29
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what the fuck is up y'all
what is up y'all how y'all doing today
having another one of our
little get-togethers one of our struggle
sessions
anyway let me tell y'all something
i heard there's this new
so i'm gonna i'm gonna explore this with
you guys so we're not gonna get right
into this space i wanna get some new
shit i guess i wanna cover
but what is the ministry of truth
because i don't know what the fuck that
is i keep hearing about it
on twitter i keep hearing there's this
new ministry of truth or some kind of
shit
um
i think someone super chatted and i
missed it
oz when are you streaming on cozy
uh
i don't know
i don't know it's more like an embassy i
don't really plan on becoming a cozy
streamer
it's more like an embassy
um
it's a different crowd over there you
know
a different crowd
and you know i don't i don't know i got
a different sense of humor i just got a
different style i got a different thing
going on and also
you know i'm an arab dude you know so
you gotta understand like it's an
embassy but at the end of the day i'm an
afro-asiatic mediterranean male you
understand
so
i don't know if there's a cultural
miscommunication that's possible and i
don't know you know i don't really know
but uh yeah i don't really
you know
is what it is
is what it is i'm a very specific type
of person you know i'm a very specific
type of dude i got a very specific type
of style i got a specific type of sense
of humor i got a specific type of
swagger you know i'm saying rolling out
of bed immediately streaming like how
i'm streaming bitch you can't match my
swag even that fucking 50 viewers i'll
be fucking better than any name any
leftist streamer named any leftist
content creator named any one of these
motherfuckers it doesn't compare
even my haters are on my dick bitch even
my haters are on my dick
cause i'm irresistible you can't look
away you can't
you can't just assist and drop out and
withdraw people even came from twitch
back over here you understand now we're
isolated now you know why this is such a
nice cozy time guys
you want to know why this is such like a
nice cozy time
because
we are like this is like our spaceship
that's so sorry that's literally so
fucking reddit
but
uh
this is uh
this is like our spaceship you
understand like we are isolated in the
middle of space right now
and our youtube isn't growing and i'm
gonna tell you why our youtube isn't
growing right now but uh it's just us
it's just the 300 spartans
i'm cool with that
but we're in our spaceship right now and
we're just drifting in this new
territory of youtube we're like
explorers and we're looking for a new
community to
raid you know i mean we're
that's that's really what's going we're
on the lookout we're like pirates we're
looking for a new community to raid and
shit
because
a lot of the growth from
earlier on was that that was destiny
growth honestly
that was because we were entering
destiny's orbit just a little bit so his
viewers would tune in especially that's
why like my hassan videos used to do the
best oh i think those were destiny's
people honestly i don't know i think
that that was a boost though you know
being in destiny's good graces is very
good for um
for your growth
it like whatever channel you are it's
very good for your growth but
now that that's over we're kind of just
adrift
and
we're looking for
a new community to raid and reach out to
and
absorb you understand
so
this is like a but it's just kind of
nice you know it's kind of nice i like
it
it's kind of nice
it's kind of nice because this is the
calm before the storm now i honestly
don't know how we're going to take off
we definitely need like a bigger
community to make inroads into or debate
or some kind oh i'm going to debate sam
cedar by the way i'm going to do that
that might be a really good way but i am
going to do that i'm going to debate sam
cedar
probably next month i think i'm gonna do
it next month
i'm gonna email him and i'm gonna debate
him
and i think i'm gonna debate him about
third parties i think i'm gonna have a
third party debate
about the viability of the democrats and
whether it's even viable whatever but
this this that's a debate i'm actually
going to prepare for
and i'm going to prepare a little bit
for it and i'm going to debate sam cedar
so that's going to happen
and there's a lot of other things i can
do to really uh branch out and reach out
and shit but
yeah i mean
i'm i think right now is such a cozy
time in our history this is such a cozy
period because we don't have a ton of
pressure on us and i could just we could
literally do whatever the fuck we want
like i'm not like for example on twitch
i had to cover russia every single
fucking day
you know to tell you the truth guys
based
honestly i enjoy watching your live
stream replays on black lennon's channel
thank you for the five man appreciate
you appreciate you so much
no i'm not i'm not writing it all off
i'm not writing all off i'm just saying
uh
it's just like about the unknown it's
one of those things you know it's just
unknown but i know a lot of y'all do
like me i knew i know that
um
but you know some people don't like me
either right but uh anyway what was i
saying
what was i saying
the fuck was i saying oh yeah
i forgot still don't remember
um
russia coverage yeah yeah russia
coverage
to be completely honest with y'all
um
there comes a certain point where the
russia coverage for me was not that
uh
exhilarating so to speak
it just kind of every you know it's been
two months sin i didn't i didn't know it
was even gonna last this long and my
lack of knowledge about the details
has really put me off from wanting to be
a russian streamer because you know i
the way i was thinking of it i was like
okay it's gonna be quick
and then now that it's it's a it's way
longer than was expected i'm like okay
i'm just gonna
i you know i don't
i every day it's not like when there's
really breaking news i'm gonna cover the
news for you don't get me wrong
but it's not something i'm gonna track
every single day because it comes to a
certain point where it's like nothing
particularly new has happened
so today i i did hear that the kirsten
region has gone to russia but we have
created this broad cognitive mapping of
what's going on which is basically
that's eastern and southern ukraine is
going to russia
and that's where the opera that they're
probably going to take annex those
regions and
you know
they're focused on that and so far
that's pretty much
that's been what's going on now if
something new happens that updates my
paradigm my like broad understanding of
the situation i'm going to cover it and
i'm going to update you guys about what
i think is really going on but until
then there isn't really a lot
that's happening in in the conflict in
ukraine that has changed
like the broad understanding that i've
given you before right so i think it's
just like kind of going as it has before
i just don't want to cover that every
single day you know and then you know i
could be a geopolitics streamer which
i think would be interesting to be
honest i think i would i would kind of
be cut out for that i think we should
probably i'm probably going to reach out
to like
the geopolitics community oh yeah
there's there's also those um
there's a lot of like nationalist
foreign nationalists that wanted to say
there's that russian guy the fuck was
his name
tbh youtube us is the best of us thank
you so much nonsmoker appreciate you man
we can debate that that uh
that slavic nationalist dude who's like
yeah russia's has nothing to do with its
mongol influence or whatever so i think
i want to set up a debate with that dude
uh sometime soon
and i wanna i wanna have more debates
about shit like that like i wanna have
more geopolitical focus regional focus
because that's the probably the best
community honestly i love that community
that's the community i come from like
the hoy4 community in the fucking
strategy game community i don't play
those games but it's like
that's like the best community honestly
that is really the bread and butter of
the infrared community it's those people
that like
maps it's not
strategy game maps you know what i mean
like they like
um
they like uh fucking you know
uh
big land masses and shit like that and
yeah we hate
the other kind of maps i mean
you know that's the highest
punishment worthy of the law
but
more reaching out to those people that'd
be fun right that'd be fun there's also
those like tyrannians taranis
i wanna i can debate the tyrannos now
too because i'm off twitch so i wanna
debate those people as well the taranis
i want to debate taranis
right
turanians whatever the fuck that is
right so
that's pretty much
where i'm going with that
but yeah the youtube is not growing
particularly well
at all we're getting like 100
subscribers a week now or something
really bad it's horrible
absolutely horrible
but um
it's just a matter of where to go
forward now you know
growth is not as important to me right
now as setting a new foundation and then
we can lift off if i were to grow a ton
now i wouldn't know what to do with all
the new viewers i'd be like oh hold on
i'm still figuring my shit out and like
figuring out my groove and what i want
to start doing so these tend to be the
most fun periods of the streams right
because last year was this at this time
last year
we were like half where we're at now
and it was the same thing we were i was
like still figuring out my groove and
shit and then
we lift it off and we took off right
um
do an infrared vision about
i don't know if that's a slur on youtube
or whatever uh reddit
uh i don't think you need infrared
vision vision i think you just need to
go to your local fucking best buy and
just look look at the gaming section and
shit and find bro let me tell you
something i was at my best buy the other
day
and actually that's why i got this chair
because i went to best buy and i was
looking at macbooks i was like should i
get a macbook
and i'm so stupid i'm like the only
reason i would get a macbook is because
i literally sit on the couch all the
time and i'm like how do i just get a
fucking chair
so i went
to an office depot and i just got a
chair instead
but i was at the best buy and
i i'm starting to see dg gears in public
you know
and
you know i do this thing where it's like
i don't know if they're dj jeers but
they look like it and i just look at
them
like this and i see if they're looking
at me or if they look away or some shit
because oh it's
so fun
to see those people in public
confront the fucking people that talk
all this shit about me
that would be a dream right
but it's like i feel like i'm starting
to see them in public
because
they're like the this is what they look
like they're usually like
uh early to mid to late 20s let's just
say 20s they're in their 20s
and they usually have this weird look
where they're like they're wearing cargo
pants and they're they're wearing like
these gamer sweat uh sweatshirts or
hoodies and they got these fedoras on
and they got long hair they don't look
like they shower and they got the
glasses and they got like the minecraft
shirt or some shit and i'm like i really
feel like those are dg gears i really
feel like those people are in that chat
talking shit to me right and
every time i'm in public and i see
people like that i'm always checking to
see if they're staring at me
and if they notice me if they're like
recognize me and i'm like
like i'm staring at them you know and
they're always looking away and shit
very uncomfortable but i'm like out for
blood in a video game i'm like
i'm hunting you know but please say
something say i recognize you you're hot
from infrared
because
that's on site
site see i'm just talking about vision
psych but like you're not gonna come up
to me and say you're a dg or and then
expect me to be friendly with you that's
not i'm just telling you it's not gonna
happen i promise you it's not going to
happen like
that's
i'm going to make it very
i'm going to make it a very bad time for
you guaranteed you know i don't know why
i'm saying this i'm kind of ruining it
for myself but uh
yeah
yeah
but uh
what would how you even get there
yeah what if you're a dg jeer but also a
hazan
i'm telling you you have to choose you
can't be in both
those communities you got to choose
between that community or this community
you got to be igg or dg you can't be
both i'm not allowing you to be both you
got to choose
you got to choose
you gotta choose you're either my enemy
or not
base thank you
better than alex jones thank you coding
jesus and guys
you know what i'm going to hate about
this summer i'm not going to be able to
wear this cozy shirt because i'm having
a really good time i got this chair i
got this sweatshirt and it's like if
only i could stream like this on twitch
i would be at 3 000 viewers because
which i was you know i'm always
uncomfortable streaming and i'm just so
comfy i'm just so comfy now
maybe it's gonna make me weak and soft
it kind of is already because if you
notice from last night's uh
uh thing i did on uh twitter the twitter
space i did i was really complacent and
you know why i was complacent because i
was so comfy so maybe i should bring
back the wooden chair sometimes just to
put myself more on edge
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did you hear about the ukrainian do you
ate a piece of a dead ukrainian
soldier's corpse because he thought it
was a russian soldier
i did hear about that yeah so in case
you guys didn't know
apparently there was this dude in
ukraine
who
thought they were going to eat a russian
a russian soldier's corpse
and it actually turned out to be a
fucking ukrainian
damn that is so fucked up right
just stand okay let me show you what it
looks like when i stand this is what
it'll look like
here here's me standing
is this what you want
saying what you want
you don't want this
this is me standing
tropical the island breeze all the
nature wild and free uh
i'm waiting for the sun to come out i'm
waiting for the weather to get better
and i'm waiting to start going outside
getting some sunlight being out there by
the way when that happens i'm bringing
back the daily greetings from hajj show
us more chest hair iron boy
bruh
yeah i'll thank you for the two but
you're gonna have to pay way more than
two dollars if you want to see more you
know this this is a peep show the chess
hair is going to cost more bro what is
this twitch
what is this twitch
go ahead and give me your biddies guys
give me your biddies
what do you think this is
the fuck you think this is
so guys guess what
um as i was saying
there's apparently a ministry of truth
what the fuck is that let's check it out
critics slam timing of biden's ministry
of truth
to police internet for this
disinformation
okay it's a it's a disinformation board
okay that apparently that's what it is
let's check it out
so we got
let's put it on
apparently they got a disinformation
board
joe biden's disinformation board is
likened to the ministry of truth
might actually
how do you feel about the ministry of
truth
uh this is the kind of thing that you
see in dictatorships this ministry of
truth this department of propaganda that
the biden administration has just stood
up and the reason why you see this in
dictatorships is because
they're afraid of us they're afraid of
the people they're afraid that we might
about the ministry of truth about them
about the ministry all right so
what can their disinformation board
actually do what are the powers vested
in the fucking disinformation board like
what can it actually do
so homeland security secretary testified
during a budget the disinformation
governance board
it's gonna it's gonna fight the spread
of disinformation on the internet how
are you gonna do that without violating
our first amendment rights i mean what
is it actually gonna fucking do right
it would monitor misinformation on
topics
what do you mean monitor that's really
vague
what okay
disinformation board
uh this is the disinformation governance
board
by the way where in our constitution are
they allowed to do this shit
where in our constitution can they
create all of these different fucking
agencies and departments and all this
dumb shit that they're doing with our
budget i mean that's our tax money
that's our fucking tax money we're
paying tax
i just did hiccups
i have the hiccups now
our tax money
is going towards
limiting our speech
and that's our fucking tax money
she studies the intersection of
democracy and technology in central and
eastern europe and she was an advisor on
strategic communications to the
government of ukraine during her time at
the public policy fellowship
what the fuck am i looking at here
is it it don't look pretty this shit
does not look pretty
this shit does not look pretty
tropical the island breeze all nature
you know like you spam in my chat you
couldn't just get in vc
you could just get in my fucking vc and
speak like like with your voice but
you're just typing with your fingers and
spamming
and you're a pussy you are a fucking
pussy like you are legitimately a pussy
if you're gonna actually spend time
to type hatred toward me
then you're a pussy
it's as simple as that if you're gonna
spend time to type hatred toward me
you're actually a pussy
like you're gonna spend time to type
hate
you're a fucking pussy you can actually
just get in my vc
i'm curious what's your excuse to not
get in vc you know do you have one
do you have him what is he saying no
you're fat
okay i guarantee you if we compared
physiques
you would get fucking mogged
i guarantee you
i guarantee you i guarantee you that if
you compare you to me
you would get fucking mogged you little
bitch
and you're talking that shit to me
tropical the island breeze all in nature
wild and free
so this is what we're dealing with here
quite ferocious it's when a hopster
takes some lies and makes them sound
precocious by seeing them in congress or
a mainstream outlet so disinformation's
origins are slightly less atrocious
it's how you hide a delighted lie it's
how you hide a little light a little eye
it's how you hide little idols alive
when rudy giuliani shared bad intel from
ukraine or when tick-tock influences
take over it can cause pain their
laundering to sinful when we really
should take note and not support their
lies with our wallet voice or vote oh
information wandering is really quite
ferocious it's when a huxter takes them
lies and makes them sound precocious by
saying them in congress or a mainstream
outlet service information's origin
seems likely why do they all look like
this
why do they all look like this this is
what katy paul looks like this is what
vagina
guide looks like they all have these
eyes they all look they all look the
same
why do they all have the same phenotype
and some you know this proves lysenko
was right this proves lysenko
one thousand percent this proves lysenko
wandering is really quite ferocious it's
when a hopster takes some lies and makes
them sound precocious by seeing them in
congress or a mainstream outlet so
disinformation's origins are slightly
less atrocious
it's how you hide a delighted light it's
how you hide a little light a little lie
it's how you had a little idols live
when rudy giuliani shared bad intel from
ukraine or when tick-tock influences
take over it can cause pain they're
laundering to sinful when we really
should take note and not support their
lives with our wallet voice or vote oh
information wandering is really quite
ferocious it's when our huckster takes
some lies and makes them sound
precocious by saying them in congress
for a mainstream outlet service
inflammation's origin seems slightly
less atrocious
this bitch is coming after me
she's coming after us
she's coming after my money
this bitch coming after my money she's
coming after my way of living she's
coming after everything
and she's singing about it damn
like what the fuck
she's the author of how to lose the
information war russia and she's polish
she's polish
she's polish
how to be a woman online surviving abuse
and harassment and how to fight back
was published this year she's made
frequent contributions to the media
pushing articles in the new york times
washington post the atlantic and
elsewhere
she also appeared on tv and radio to
discuss this information as well as
russian and eastern european issues
uh
before her work advising the ukrainian
government
uh thank you so much voidburn but why
aren't the alerts working
is there something oh here it is
the goofy aristocrats from the hunger
games vibes really unsettling stuff yeah
that thank you so much void by the way
but yeah yeah
for real
um
she holds an m.a in russian eurasian and
european studies from the east european
studies from georgetown university
honored to be serving in the
biodemonstrations and helping shape our
counter disinformation efforts so i
think what they're going to be doing is
like hiring bots
to
like yeah they're just gonna hire bots
that they're gonna like just harass me
on twitter
that's all this shit really amounts to
it's like literally hiring bots to
harass me jackson and samira on twitter
that's all they do she will release a
distract on you
yeah thank you painhope but that's what
they're gonna do they're just gonna like
call your troll farms and bots
to harass i mean that but the dnc
already fucking does that so if the
government does it i'll give a fuck
but i just wonder like to what ex what
else could they do what what is what
beyond that is in the scope of their
fucking powers right
i have no idea
anyway um
i think that's all the news i wanted to
cover today
and then we're going to get into our
struggle session because we actually
have a struggle session to be getting
into
and the topic today is going to be about
land back and there's actually some
things i researched today and discovered
about
um
this is literally the chinese version of
wu mao
yeah i mean
that they
they did that before the chinese though
remember that i mean
you just know about the chinese one we
just didn't know about the one that the
us was doing but um i did discover
interesting things about these
specifically the ndn collective and
who's been funding the ndn collective
and it's actually not just amazon it's
coming from quite a few
of these funds and foundations like for
example did you guys know
that before the 12 million grant from
bezos
the ndn got like two to three million
dollars from other
uh private charities and funds and shit
like that
they were also funded after amazon guess
who else funded them if for some
deranged reason it's necessary for usa
to have a person choosing what the
country should believe this position
better be an elected one
yeah i agree and thank you so much for
the five yeah i agree with that
but anyway um as i was saying
uh it's just interesting because
you know
the ford foundation gave 400 000 to the
ndn collective 400 000 imagine if the
ford foundation gave 400 000 to infrared
wouldn't you think infrared is like so
let's say infrared got funding of four
hundred thousand dollars from the ford
foundation
wouldn't all of twitter be like
infrared's a fed infrared right
it's creepy how they make themselves out
to be these fun-loving and quirky people
when they're actually so insidious it's
twisted yeah
for real and thank you so much red
patriot appreciate you
but yeah that's just like
okay no one cares about that apparently
so here's what we're gonna do we're
gonna start up our twitter space let me
start it up
let me get this ball
rolling
let me get this ball
rolling
and
it's gonna be about land back because
you guys remember let the land back
issue is one of like the wedge issues
that
made us run a follow with the cpu usa
leadership so we're gonna we're gonna
have a discussion we're gonna have a
debate
about um
what does indigenous mean what does it
mean for people to become indigenized to
a land
so that's that's really what i wanna
what i wanna talk about right so we're
gonna have that land back debate
tonight okay
we're gonna have the land back debate
so let's see spaces
we're going to start it up
and we're going to call it
land back
drama
we're going to start this space right
here
and then
what we'll do
is
connect to it also on twitter on the
mobile phone
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so let's
let's get it right here
here we go
all right we're good
so let's
um have that open
and that's gonna be open right there
and then i'm gonna go ahead and uh
get in on this shit
all right thank you so much coding jesus
appreciate you
guys remember if you're all ready
if you're already um
watching the stream you don't have to
join the space
it's kind of superfluous to be joining
the space if you're already here we're
gonna get right into it because this is
one of the number one dividing issues
that divided infrared from the rest of
the left it's what got us in trouble
from the very beginning
right and
we're gonna go ahead and we're gonna see
we're gonna get to the bottom of what
the source of this conflict really is
about
we're gonna get to the bottom of the
conflict surrounding land back we're
gonna sort this issue out and we're
going to talk about this issue of
indigenization and indigeneity okay so
without any further ado
without any further ado
let's get right into it
now y'all are here
and almost universally among the
american left y'all are always hearing
shit
about people saying lamb back
land back they're always saying land
back they're always talking about the
indigenous people the indigenous water
protectors are the model for socialism
marx was eurocentric and got it wrong
it's the water protectors we have to and
there's this kind of indigenous
fetishism right and then we're basically
the the thing that
caused shit but the whole pat sock
bullshit label made up pat sock label
has originated from this um
this thing of like oh pat socks don't
believe that the the us
should be um that we should we should
make our position the hill we die on is
that the u.s has to be completely
dismantled and given to indigenous
people as the custodians of the land
because indigenous people love trees and
and water and shit and and and they're
going to solve the ecology crisis and
the crisis of modern industry and all
this malthusian bullshit right
so my question and it's an open question
i want to hear
any leftists come up and defend this
question before we get into it
what the fuck does it mean to be
indigenous what does indigenous mean
what does it mean to be an indigenous
person i want somebody to come here
and define indigenous to me so that's
one thing i'm demanding
the second thing if somebody can go
ahead and define what it means to be
indigenous right the second thing is i
want to expose more about the ndn
collective because the shit that i was
able to publicize that we were able to
publicize now if you don't know the ndn
collective they're the ones who made the
hashtag land back go viral and what they
want to do by the way
is that they want to return all federal
lands you heard that right
all publicly owned land in the united
states of america back to their
so-called
original custodians and original uh
owners right so
basically this is a scheme to privatize
our fucking land with what little public
ownership we have in this country
right which is the these federal lands
that these public parks and federal
lands i mean that is like one of the
only forms of public ownership we have
in this country and they want to get rid
of that right
so if you didn't know this by the way
the ndn
before their infamous 12 million dollar
grant from the bezos earth fund
which they got they got 12 million
fucking dollars from that and that's a
lot of money by the way if you don't
think that's a lot of money
um
they had up to two
thank you so much cody jesus
two to three
million dollars in grants and
funding from these so-called private
charity organizations
and all these other you know investment
these funds and whatever these
non-profits and these ngos
why
who has been pushing this land back
agenda who's behind it what's the reason
for it
how do you explain it so first of all
we're gonna have baba love on
and we're gonna let them defend land
back go ahead and defend the land back
explain why we should support it as
communists
hello
hello
yeah
um
i was just saying that like
if
i saw the defined land that gets taking
them back from blackrock
from sorry what
from blackrock
and like
those big
mega
corporations that just control
most of what we own
well i if that's what land back means
that i agree with it right but uh yes
that's not what
most of these people mean usually when
they say land yeah
that's the use exactly
yeah they were just mean like
it's just in a very strange way like
taking land back
to certain people who don't really exist
in this moment
yeah
that's true
yeah
it's true and appreciate your
contribution thank you so much
so we're gonna have a lmao
added as a speaker go ahead and uh
explain this whole land back business to
us go ahead
oh shit hey can you guys hear me
why i can hear you
yeah i think like what the previous
speaker was saying i mean it's just kind
of bullshit it's a bullshit sentiment
you know it's like you know the the
populations and the demographics that
would you know hypothetically be getting
this land back really aren't here
anymore you know i think anyone with you
know some sense in them can understand
that the native american genocides were
heinous crimes against humanity but the
fact of the matter is it's 2022. this is
very clearly a federal co-opted
movement you know that's why it's
trending that's why twitter you know
this major platform for establishment
level propaganda you know spread it
around so much it's total bullshit you
know it's it's dividing leftists it's
creating kind of this imperative among
communists i've seen just anecdotally
where it's like oh if you don't support
this land back if you don't support
indigenous folks and you're a red
fascist or you're a red you know like
you're a traitor or a revisionist and i
think it's just kind of this more post
coin tell pro you know destruction of
leftism it's more division you know more
um
you know more more just infighting you
know it's really dancing on on the
grave and thank you for the contribution
so sophie go ahead and defend the land
back
go ahead and defend the ndn collective
and defend the slogan land back what
does it mean to be indigenous what are
indigenous what does that mean what does
it mean to be a settler colonial and
what does it mean to be indigenous go
ahead and explain that to us
go ahead unmute yourself
go ahead and unmute yourself
so this is
okay your hand is up go ahead and mute
yourself
hello
yes i was wondering why is there such a
great disagreement with um
you all
on
um communist
stance
i was in a previous thing with just
james
and i got their point of view
but i wanted your point of view because
they referenced you
well this is what it boils down to so we
got this issue where they're saying
america isn't a country
and everybody here is a settler
and the only people that are
uh legitimate are the indigenous
and that the rest is just stolen land
and it's all got to be given back so
communists got to stop this thing where
they try to go to the masses
because the masses are settlers
and we have to start adopting the the
and we have to think of socialism as
indigenous
a return to indigenous indigeneity and
the indigenous practices of you know
communalism or whatever right so
i reject that because what i'm trying to
say here
is that these motherfuckers don't even
seem like they can define
how a people become indigenous how do
you become indigenous how does that
happen what does it mean to be
indigenous what does that even mean
what's the deal why is it that the
american people
aren't indigenous in any kind of way why
are they all subtle or colonial
and
furthermore why do they have such an
american exceptionalist stance
about how that whole thing works because
i can acknowledge that there's a unique
genocide that was committed against the
indigenous people of the americas i can
acknowledge that and i can acknowledge
it was also unique in the history of
humanity i do acknowledge that that's
modernity right but alongside that you
did have an organic process of
indigenous indigenization of settlers
who came from europe who settled here in
ways that are also not dissimilar to the
more organic forms of settlement that
have happened in history
that are not necessarily
always genocidal or always
about you know just this this kind of
white supremacy whatever the fuck
they're talking about it's also a way in
which people
move to a land and become accustomed to
the land and become part of the land and
become indigenous in their own kind of
way
and that's something that happens in
various times in history
so my question is
why are they saying that that's all
america is is that it's just
a history of theft and genocide and
because i don't i disagree that that's
all it is i disagree that's the only
thing that there is to it i disagree
there's no reality or existence
to america just besides that and just
for saying this type of shit i was
accused of being a white supremacist an
american chauvinist and all this kind of
shit what this shit is really about is
i think there's a problem of zionism
where they're trying to trivialize
israel's settler colonial crimes
in the west bank by saying oh we're
living and breathing out here in america
so israel is no different than america
they're just doing what we already do in
america and i reject that i reject that
i think that's a zionist trivialization
so there you go that's the answer
that was my only uh
that was my only question thank you so
much
all right we're gonna add uh
dreamins
as the speaker go ahead
hello
yeah we can hear you
cool uh yeah i just had a
question about uh what you were talking
about
of um in regards to the uh the process
of indigenization
of the uh
european settlers in america
i want you to expand on that
um
if you could
expand on what exactly uh because i i
don't know how can you uh
called
call that a process of individualization
in this land if what they basically did
was
settle or settle in a place
and uh kill the population there i don't
know if you call that a process of
indigenization
and yeah but
the history of settler settlement in the
americas
is not only that it wasn't only defined
by killing people and spreading disease
and all those were things that happened
sure
but that's not what defined it that only
from a hyper-moralistic perspective are
you going to say that's all you that can
define it because the guilt weighs so
heavy we haven't atoned for the sin okay
but materially speaking that's not what
defined it settlements in this country
followed a process of people coming to
this land and making a living off of the
land in their own kind of way setting up
these
communitarian whatever
societies these communities
where they more or less developed a
unique and special relationship to the
land which would come to define
generations and generations of people
and culture and all that kind of stuff
none of that is reducible to the
genocide and crimes that were committed
against indigenous people now those are
part of the history
but it's not reducible to that it's not
reducible to that in the same way
that israel's
uh occupation of palestine well yeah
that is reducible to the displacement
and the continual expulsion and
displacement and theft of palestinian
land because that's a top-down project
israel it's a top-down national project
that they're implementing and every
facet of that project comes from a
central plan that is completely
artificial well that's not how the
history of america was defined the
process of europeans coming to the
americas that was a decentralized
process of people just seeking
opportunity and coming here not
dissimilar to the way in which anatolia
was settled or india was settled or
other places in the europe it was even
settled you know that's just
follows a pretty clear pattern in
history you can't reduce that to some
kind of settler colonial project
but wouldn't you say that uh that
settler uh settler colonialist uh
uh european uh
migrants here uh
killing the people uh the native people
here
doing that put sustain on the whole
on the whole thing
wouldn't you say that
what do you mean a stain history is
riven of nothing but stains history is a
whole bloody massacre history is a
history of theft rape genocide death
horror disease i mean infant mortality
whatever you want that's history that's
that's what history is defined as
okay now
you know when you when you attach so
much significance to the bad into the
stain
in history
it's like
it's it's a form of american
exceptionalism i mean history is a
fucking
it's a bloody
it's a bloody history that we're facing
of humanity
since the rise of civilization
now i can agree that there's a unique
horror to the history of european
colonialism and modernity as a whole i
can agree with that i don't think that's
particularly controversial or somehow
you know that's something that's beyond
the realm of
uh belief i agree with that
but with that being said
i don't think you can reduce the whole
civ the whole history to those excesses
and i do agree we have to analyze and
understand those excesses
but i don't agree let me give you
another example some people might say
that in modern industry is inexorably
tied
to modern capitalism and in some ways
that's true right but then what did what
happened the soviet union and china have
proven that you can have modern industry
without the exploitation of modern
capitalism
so
in the same way you can have
a history of the united states and of
this people and the country
without reproducing the evils that had
corresponded to it
in the form of you know white supremacy
and genocide and you know that kind of
fanaticism that led to
you know killing all heathens or
whatever you know you can you can i'm
not saying you just take the good out of
the bad
but
you can inherit that history without
having to
um
inherit the evil you can inherit that
history and overcome the evil
that's part of it and confront the evil
that's part of it
so that's what i'm trying to say you
don't necessarily have to
reduce the whole thing to the the bad
parts
now the bad parts are of uh
you know a huge part of it
but
that's something to be confronted in the
present in the form
of
modern capitalist evil
rather than having this
you know guilt session bullshit where we
all sit around and just you know uh uh
lament about how fucking guilty we are
that gets us nowhere
i mean we could talk about the evils of
the past
but that same evil is still happening
in the form of america's foreign policy
and in the form
of even what's going on here in america
with the way in which modern capitalist
modern capitalism is ravaging the
country and ravaging all the people in
this country not some people way more
than others sure but almost all the
people in this country
are being ravaged by this inhumane
anti-human
and
barbaric capitalist system
so instead of trying to say that this
whole country and people is rotten to
the core
and there's absolutely no way for it to
be salvaged in any kind of way or
redeemed
you can actually focus on the evil that
is part of our history by focusing on
the class struggle now if you want to
understand the marxist leninist approach
to history from the example of the
soviet union what they used to say
almost ad verbatim literally this is
what they would say and theorize they
would say
we should not concede
history to our enemies we are waging the
class struggle in the present but we can
recognize in our own traditions and our
own history
a line of class struggles so there's an
aspect for example in russian history
where there was these progressive
elements that there was a class struggle
being waged you know a hundred or two
hundred years ago the struggle of ivan
the terrible against the the boyars and
the nobles and all that kind of stuff
like they were able to create this
connection between the living class
struggle of the present
and the class struggles of the past i
don't see why americans shouldn't do the
same thing instead of writing off our
entire history as completely
irredeemable
we should fight for our history we
should fight for the class struggle
that is woven through the fabric of time
itself
hello
i cannot hear you
oh yeah my bad oh yeah you can go to the
next person
sorry what's that
yeah you can go to the next person
that's fine
okay so as i was saying
so i can't see any requests right now
but as i was saying continuing off of
this
this whole land back business it got so
extreme let me tell you the absurdity of
this situation and people need to have
some real insight on what's going on
with the cpu usa and why they decided to
denounce me and why they've created this
rift and it's absolutely fucking
abominable when you get a picture of the
situation it's going to make you sick to
your stomach
so i rejected this ultra left nonsense
about bland back
and the cpu usa leadership of the
national committee
when they saw that oh actually the ndn
collective and the land back stuff it
actually does have some mainstream
support from amazon from these
corporations they said you know what
actually land back is part of the
progressive
tide of this country and anyone opposing
land back is clearly a reactionary when
they learned that amazon was funding the
ndn collected when they learned that it
was having corporate support and some
mainstream support among the democrats
all of a sudden it became legitimate to
them and they started to defend it and
we were being labeled as reactionaries
now before then
they were talking against the sakai
people because it was a little too
extreme for their kind of lib shit
democrat tastes now as soon as they
discovered that it was actually more
mainstream than they had thought before
look what happened
now this is the absurdity of what's
going on we get denounced because we're
against the so-called land back we don't
want to privatize public lands and
we're not on board with this vision of
america of of turtle island and we're
going to just completely um
undo time itself and and go back to the
time in which
it was it was just indigenous whatever
like we're not going to roll back the
wheels of history in other words
so you have this alliance between the
democrats supporting
leadership of the cp usa
in addition to the ultra left elements
within the party
like you know
the maoists the so-called maoists and
the gonzaloids and shit and it's like
they're teaming up
against us and me in particular and it's
like you're talking about something so
radical
as
posturing like you're about to dismantle
the entire country and depopulate the
country and return it all to the
indigenous people
while supporting the fucking democrats
who
literally represent the imperial
chauvinism of america
right now in the present tense
i mean how close are the fucking
democrats to your land back fantasy of
dismantling america not only
do they have nothing to do with
dismantling the state they are the
fucking state they're literally the deep
state they're the imperialist state
machinery so you're literally out here
creating this alliance between democrat
taylors
and so-called land back ultra leftists
and i'm supposed to be the one that
looks bad throughout this whole fucking
thing
i mean no has this too much all haz is
saying is that we should be more
populistic in our approach
and we shouldn't write off that there's
a reality to this country this country
isn't just a whole bunch of bullshit
there's some real there's a real country
here and a real people here and a real
history here and we should be fighting
to to
to lead that and lead how that's
understood
and that's my crime
but it's okay for the leadership of the
sea and the the organization in its
official capacity even
to be um
tailing the democrats
who are literally the
representatives of the american imperial
state
in terms of the for all the crimes
committed by america and it's it's
foreign possibly it's so outrageous how
is haas the bad guy but the national
committee of the cp usa's in the back
all these gonzaloid
so-called maoists
who are so adamant about making sure
infrared and the pat socks don't fucking
infiltrate the party i mean your party's
already led by people who tail
the democrats how are we the fucking
problem
how do you get to this point
where we're the problem
but it's okay for your party to support
the imperialist war machine and to fence
it on the ukraine russia crisis but
we're the problem why because we don't
want to i mean this just proves how
right-wing and left-wing opportunism
as stalin said are two sides of the same
coin
that's how it proves they're two sides
of the same coin the ultra leftists are
making a demand they know will never be
realistically fulfilled but which they
posture and maintain
to maintain this fault and smug sense of
false and smug sense of superiority and
then on the other hand you got this
situation where you got the right wing
opportunities you want to tell the
democrats they okay so it's like it's
almost it's it's dialectically
harmonious oh we support land back and
burning down america but you know in the
meantime we're going to support the
democrats yeah that was just posturing
we weren't curious about it
and that's the ugly rotten situation you
have in the so-called communist party
right now and the lesson you should
learn from this is you need to have a
materialist and realist view of things
because you're going to have a realist
view no matter what yeah you can dream
all you want of land back and shit but
the material result of that is going to
be no change it's going to be right-wing
opportunism and tailing the democrats
the reason we are hated so much
is because
the so-called pat socks even though
that's a label i reject
we offer a solution
that is both
realistic
and
radical and revolutionary in the sense
that it is going to lead to change i
mean yeah our solution is so-called uh
right-wing they accuse us because we're
not having this ultra-left fantasy of
thinking we're gonna completely abolish
america
but it's actually doable and that's what
makes it so dangerous
it's realistic enough to actually be
able to disattach the cpusa from the
democrats
it's not an ultra leftist fantasy
but it's also not you know this
acceptance of the democrats so it's like
we're accused of being ultra right-wing
and right-wing deviationists
just because we're offering something
that's we're offering tangible
change
for the party a tangible progressive
in the real sense of the word change for
the party in the direction of the real
class struggle
you know and they have their so this is
the sick arrangement you got going on in
the cpu usa you got these motherfucking
you know democrat dinosaurs in charge
and then you got these kids on the
ground with the craziest the craziest
ultra left posturing in stance i mean
that dude keaton he wears a cowboy hat
and he went to a fucking meeting in new
york
and they all said they got traumatized
by his cowboy hat you got traumatized by
his cowboy hat but you didn't get
traumatized when joe sims and rosanna
and all them told you to go fucking cast
your ballot for biden oh you crossed the
line at the cowboy hat but it was okay
for you to literally cast your damn vote
for joe biden jim crow joe who is
the representative of the american war
machine an imperialist
state who's he might even start world
war three now right that didn't
traumatize you but the cowboy had
traumatized you i mean that's a that's
on another level of fucking stupid if
you ask me that's another level of
insanity if you ask me
and then you know you got this situation
where
that level of ultra leftist posturing
and insanity is perfectly compatible
with that democrat shit so then where
does that leave us so-called pat socks
we are stalinists what does that mean
we're against the left deviation and the
right deviation we're saying first of
all we're not doing this off the left is
bullshit we're gonna be realistic about
things and we agree with that much from
the uh national committee
but
we're gonna be proletarian realists
we're gonna be socialist realists you
know what that means
is that we're not going to tell the
democrats
we're going to have populist realism our
political realism is still going to be
revolutionary
and it's going to be revolutionary in
the sense of as the communist party put
it supporting all of the forces
currently opposed to the status quo
and the system
whether those forces are communist
socialist or even so-called progressive
or not we're gonna have a broad popular
front a populist popular front
where we're gonna acknowledge the fact
that yeah we can't have this ideological
pure stance and yeah we i agree joe sims
we can't be ultra leftist and we can't
be trotskias
but guess what
that doesn't give you the fucking excuse
to tell the damn democrats
you know this is this is such a scandal
because they try to put us in a box and
make it seem like we're these ultra
right wing reactionaries who want to
take the party in our ultra right
direction
truth is
we want to pursue
the direction of stalin the direction
directional mouth the direction
of real actual change which comes with
both the wisdom of understanding your
limitations and how to be realistic
while also being brave enough to discern
the opportunities and risks you have to
take
to actually wage the class struggle and
not tail behind the damn ruling class
now i don't see why that's so
so right-wing and so scandalous
according them so reactionary and so
backward and they're saying oh you're
backward and it's all cultural both so
you know why it's fucking backward
because they're saying oh
you don't you're gonna go up to people
and not scold them for not being
progressive no i'm not oh what about
haas you yourself has um you're very
much um not politically correct and you
you tail but i don't tail behind the
masses bitch i agree with them i
literally have the same vibe as them
and i literally actually think that the
way you talk and the language you use
makes you look like an inauthentic
fake piece of shit
okay and i'm just keeping it real you
know you they you call me all these
fucking names and all this bullshit the
difference between me and you
is that i'm real and you're fake you're
not authentic you understand and that's
a cultural issue i have no goddamn idea
why that's going to be your your the
line you're going to draw in the sand
denouncing infrared the so-called
infrared webcast as they call it had to
have been the most stupid fucking
decision the communist party has made
since the 2020 election where they
decided that they're going to die on the
hill
of channeling all their energies into
helping get by and elected
i was a very fast growing and successful
political streamer
if they would have worked with me i
could have helped the party grow way
more than it actually did i could have
drew way more
attention to the party than it did and
better yet
they could have given me their input and
told me like hey this is where we're at
and we could have worked together and
made something great out of it
and they sacrificed all of that for what
it's been a year since that shit
happened
and i'm at the point now where i want to
see the tangibles
i want to see what has tangibly resulted
from this
because
from the looks of it shit didn't change
nothing has changed
the party's still in the same run down
dumb ass state that it's been since we
last took off
but thanks to taryn
now the party's taken as its foremost
issues uh reproductive rights and
abortion
and that's the hill it's gonna fucking
die and that's what's gonna define the
communist party
why i just want somebody to explain the
logic to me somebody make it make sense
make the damn thing make sense because i
sure as hell can't
i can't make sense of this damn bullshit
so somebody's got to come and make sense
of this you know
somebody's got to come and step up
and defend the current line defend the
land back thing defend what it means to
be indigenous defend what it means to be
a a settler colonialist in this country
you don't got a right to live here and
shit i mean go ahead and explain the
thing go ahead and explain
the reasoning behind it somebody step up
i don't think they'll step up i think
they're too afraid to step up
i think the reason they're too afraid to
step up is because they know they can't
defend their position it's irrational
and it's illogical
every time we try to deal with this
issue
they respond with abuse they respond
with vitriol they respond with
you know personal attacks
because apparently this is an issue that
doesn't come from anything that's can be
rationally discussed or anything this is
just something you have to dogmatically
accept or you don't now there's this one
dumbass in particular
that i want to address
now this is a pervert and his name is
your communist dad he calls himself your
communist dad
and he wrote this twitter thread
directed against the the so-called pat
socks
and it got nearly a thousand likes now
every time somebody makes a tweet
talking shit about so-called past socks
they go so viral
to the point where it's like
is this shit being astro turf or what
every time they make a tweet it goes
viral i mean who even knows what a damn
so-called pet stock is right
so anyway
he said this is the marxist case against
patriotic social so this dumbass over
here he said
patriotic socialists claim that american
patriotism is a positive force that can
and should be appropriated by marxist
leninist and put towards revolutionary
ends so already the framing is wrong the
framing is wrong on marxist and
unscientific
the question is not
whether patriotism is good or bad
i mean
when you frame it in moral terms
that implies we have a choice
that's like saying is oxygen good or bad
well i don't know if it's good or bad
but it's definitely necessary
precondition of being able to breathe
it's not that it's good or bad that
assumes we have control over the damn
thing
because you're either going to be
patriotic in my way or in in the the
marxist leninist way or you're going to
be patriotic in the democrats way you're
going to be patriotic either way
motherfucker you live in this country
and you're not posing a threat to this
country either way i mean even if you do
some illegal shit
to try and overthrow america that lands
you in jail
you're still being patriotic
motherfucker because you just gave the
fed something you just gave the prison
industrial complex a free soul for
nothing right so you're being patriotic
either way in this damn country if you
live in it so the question is
proletarian patriotism or bourgeois
patriotism
now we're not saying it's a positive
force that should be appropriated by
marxist leninist we're saying what is
marxism leninism about when we're
talking about the proletarian class
struggle when we're talking about
socialism and communism and the people
what form does that take well the
communist party tells us those are
things that are national in form so the
point of communism
is about your country it's about
something going on in your country
that's the form
it takes that's the form the class
struggle takes so the object of
scientific socialism already has its
fertile soil in a country
all patriotism actually refers to
is the way in which we as a people
acknowledge not just celebrate and and
suck off and whatever and have pride in
but even just acknowledge our country
recognize and acknowledge our country
and not take it for granted and that's
what people are doing when they're being
patriotic
before people
are celebrating their country before
people are even expressing love or pride
in their country when they're being
patriotic
they are acknowledging and not taking it
for granted
you don't have to love this country you
don't have to
even like this country
but when you decide that you're not
gonna take it for granted anymore you're
gonna be patriotic you're gonna somehow
take responsibility for it
and wrap it in some kind of way and say
this is my country whether i like it or
whether i hate it whether i love it or
whether i want nothing to do with it
as long as i'm living here as long as
i'm operating here as long as the people
that i'm addressing
form here
this country this is my country
that is what patriotism means it doesn't
mean it's some external force we're
trying to co-opt and steal and and
flavor in a red flavor and put a red
coat of paint on it
it means we are going to acknowledge
this country as our country and as the
immediate site of the class struggle
that we
as american communists
are concerned with
that has nothing to do
with
you know
that has nothing to do with being
uncritical toward your country or
somehow you know
whatever you're trying to fucking say
it's about not taking it for granted and
recognizing that the class struggle is
national in form and yes that does
manifest itself in socialist patriotism
when it comes to how that looks like as
the mass movement it's just that you're
not able to understand what's going on
you just think that in mass movements
when people wave the american flag
they're trying to say that oh our
country
is is the best thing in the world that's
not really what they're really saying
what they're really saying is that this
is our country this is who we are as a
people this is our history this is where
we live and this is who we are as a
people that's what it fucking means so
get your shit straight
then he goes the argument rests on false
premises
and they say we don't understand the
nature and history
of imperialism or settler colonialism
and that we don't grasp dialectic
dialectical materialism so let's hear
what this dumbass
is going to say to to justify that he's
going to say
uh he's going to try and describe
dialectical materialism in his
simplistic dumbass way then he's going
to quote miles on contradiction now he
gets to the part about how we fail
so they say
rather than applying marxist method and
studying history internal and external
contradictions of the united states
they expropriate and blindly apply
conclusions made by theorists studying
wildly different conditions
okay how have we done that
any serious study of the history of the
united states must reckon with the
unique feature of cellular colonialism a
phenomena utterly inextricable from the
american identity cellular colonism is
at its core project a class
collaboration on racial lines okay what
is so unique and exceptional about this
compared to say russia
and that because that's what you're
talking about the difference from russia
well russia had its own
settler colonialism russia had its own
expansionism russia had its own thing
going on
before we get to that let's
let's bring on imam darcus aurelius
go ahead and state your business
hey i just want to say i'm going to
spacebook can you fix your mic it keeps
cutting out like every five minutes
that's all i got um
what do you mean it's cutting out every
five minutes so you're talking miss
anything just cuts out and then you just
pop out talking again it just cuts out
all right yeah i can see what i can do
i'll see what i can do
all right keep up the space
all right yeah apparently the space not
working is that true guys oh it's not
going out okay well they're listening to
it from twitter right
we got about like 500 listeners in total
and a fifth of them are on twitter right
let's add this person what you got to
say
go ahead and meet yourself
go ahead and unmute yourself
go ahead unleash yourself
as stupid as hell this is the dumbest
shit i've ever seen in my life
motherfucker just unusual
go ahead and speak am i am i heard right
now you are hurt yo what's going on guys
how's everyone doing
all right well are we talking about the
weather or are we talking about what
we're getting down to business about
which is how we're going to make the
communist party great again go ahead and
speak your business yeah no i know
exactly how we're gonna make the
communist party great again it's an
obsolete uh institution organization you
should probably abolish it
uh you should probably start your new
one
like the double alternative
okay so we're gonna abolish it and then
what are we gonna do after
go ahead and unmute yourself you're
gonna you're gonna create a splinter off
organization
uh called the socialist alternative
alternative
the trophies the trophies alternative
yeah
but uh so let me ask you a question why
are american leftovers and trotskyist
why are you all obsessed with abolish
why do you love that word abolishing why
do you say america
aren't you american
critical american and i recognize the
deficiencies and problems with the
leftists in my country and one of the
big things you all do is you say we want
to abolish this abolish that
motherfucker
uh don't you do not want to do you want
a ball go ahead and abolish yourselves
your bitches man what are you talking
about
i've abolished myself a plethora of
bitches i'll have you now okay so if you
want to get down to the fundamental
critique if you'll allow me to speak um
i i think the old i think your like
analysis is correct concerning like the
ultra left problem we have in america
like i i disagree with a lot of the land
back stuff in part because
there's no like one meaning behind that
sentiment but i think that like the
i i think like patriotism is fine but
you've also kind of been on this like
weird slavic nationalist wave in
justifying what's going on in russian
ukraine so i think both sides are kind
of cringe how the hell is that slavic
nationalism what the hell's that got to
do with slavic nationalism the
ukrainians are also slavs if you didn't
know
so what's that got to do with slavic
nationalism
i don't know like the pan eurasian
nationalism you've been like
propagating
all right i know this is such a funny
topic but i want
yeah keep the laughter in i'm not sure
why you're associating slavs with
eurasianism when most eurasians are not
slavic
i don't think you actually understand
that term because ukrainians are
considered your age
eurasians are associated with the
peoples who belong to the gray area
between asia and europe that's not
deeply defined and most of those people
are going to be people like slavs like
russian slobs but also turks
um and others who are not either you
know purely european or purely asian so
broadly that's usually what people refer
to when they're talking about eurasians
and the eurasian sphere as a big space
also does include central asia
and yeah it may include eastern europe
as well but it is by no means
uh and also the caucuses right but how
is that
how is that uh mainly about slobs
you know uh maybe
our poles poles are slops they're some
of the most rapidly anti-eurasian people
in europe and there's okay maybe maybe i
misspoke you've got something really
going on
okay your bitch ass misspoke but then
you laughed at me you misspoke and then
you laughed at me like i'm the fucking
dumbass so who's laughing out maybe you
should hold in your life are you mad
would you say that you're mad guys
yeah maybe you should i mean
maybe your bitch ass should hold in your
laughter a little bit and uh
you're not you're
yeah yeah
you are stupid fuck is plainly what you
are and you somehow
you somehow overestimated
you've somehow overestimated your
intelligence your mother and father have
never yelled at you or traumatized you
into being ashamed of looking like a
dumb fuck so you just come on here with
your mouth drooling and your your mouth
open you're drooling you go
you're on some weird level of
contrarianism that i can't even begin to
broach
can we for the record i haven't heard
you speak on this in a while but how
many holes do do women have
you just want to know you're kind of
coping right now i'm not gonna lie yeah
yeah
i'm coping but i guarantee you you're
the most ugly fucking loser nerds you're
the fucking band kids in your school
you're the literal weird yeah i mean you
people you can see
weird fucking
people in our fucking school
listen i've never seen i've never seen
i've never seen a normal person give a
fuck about that meme i've never seen a
normal person give a fuck about it not
once uh well as if you surround yourself
with
all the the normal hazards
but you're normal right okay so go ahead
tell me what your fixation
yeah tell me why you got this fixation
on um
women's anatomy go ahead
well we've got a fixation on you like
calling other people and cells and
freaks and weirdos yet you don't
understand like basic woman anatomy
okay even even if that was true
even if i don't grant you the
hypothetical hold on even if i did it
even if i didn't understand basic
anatomy what does that have to be do
with being a fucking freak and a weirdo
in an insult like i'm pretty sure
suggest that like you don't have a lot
of like sexual skill or like like
prowess or knowledge prowess yeah you're
not very powerful all right first of all
i'm gonna break down how you're a true a
dumb fuck in two ways so first of all
even if i wasn't even even if my sexual
life didn't live up to your ideal
standard of what it would be why would i
why should anyone give a fuck about that
second of all
that's not true
no wait that's not fucking strong shut
the fuck up bitch that's not even
fucking true
do you actually think yeah
i'm gonna go ahead and meet you for a
sec do you actually fucking think that
there's something to do between that and
having this intimate knowledge of
details of women's anatomy that aren't
even
involved in that
as soon as you got into the ad homs we
went down to your level i regret it no
no no no no no no because
you know we we want to do this
the difference between you and me is i
got nothing to be ashamed of so that's
what we're talking about here don't go
and uh run away and go and say oh well i
i just said that because it was an ad
hoc no motherfucker you thought you were
making an intelligent point there so go
ahead yeah relative to you calling us
creeps yeah it is right yeah you are
weirdos you are you are a weird loser
fringe yu-gi-oh players and the lunch
table you
did you wear a tail in high school yes
or no did you wear a tail in high school
yes or no
no we're like perfectly normal people
yeah you're not perfectly normal people
let's let's get over that illusion that
you're you talk about the fucking
socialist alternative you're not a
fucking normal person motherfucker no i
it was a joke because i said socialist
alternative alternative yeah i wouldn't
listen
you said the double alternative and you
thought that's your that's your band kid
humor you actually think that's funny
uh yeah and you're saying you're
perfectly normal you're saying you're
perfectly normal i think it was a funny
joke yes you actually find that funny
because in that moment
i blame your mother your mother never
made you ashamed of looking like a dumb
fuck on the internet and i blame your
mother for never teaching you basic
female anatomy
yeah i mean
that's disgusting you're talking about
something that's actually disgusting
there like why you know i mean you you
own now you're into incest now is that
what you're saying
it's like
and now you're gonna pull out your
fucking dictionary and try and sound
like some fucking academic shut your
bitch ass up motherfucker do you think
that's the other thing you pasty
motherfucking broccoli looking ass bitch
you sound like the people
you're bringing
you a goddamn turn up bitch you a
fucking vegetable turn up bitch talking
shit about me to your fucking vegetable
turkey man right now actually are you
hyper reflexive overly conscientious
glasses wearing bitch shut the fuck up
talking shit to me
where did you get yes i don't wear
glasses
yeah go ahead
okay let's let's calm it down a little
bit let's calm it down a little bit so
you came on here to say that you got a
problem with my slavic nationalism right
yeah well i guess eurasian we've already
come to the conclusion that eurasian's
probably a better way
what is the eurasian nation that i'm
being nationalistic for go ahead
it seems like some weird like ultra
traditionalist like it almost seems
duganist the way you've justified the
russian invasion of ukraine as like all
being one sure go ahead
go ahead your like theory on like
eurasian socialism is kind of like
weird it's just like odd it's peculiar
okay so go ahead and define uh duganism
for me go ahead
well why don't you go ahead and define
uh your ideas on eurasian uh nationalism
but you're the one who's already making
statements about them
so you should know that
yeah i just want your clarification
because a lot of it is like done through
the proxy of like memes of like short
hands
and it's all like
kind of incoherent and i just want you
to further elaborate on your mind
to start bitching about memes is that
what you're here for
okay so this is where you start asking
random questions and beating around the
bush so can you acknowledge what my
friend there was saying
like can you elaborate on what can i
acknowledge that he finds he fights with
the ukraine he finds my stance on
russell's intervention in ukraine odd
yeah yeah he thinks it's odd but why
should anyone give a fuck what he thinks
if it's off well that's
so
people who are like you
right
people like you
are in no way necessary for any movement
you could literally disappear tomorrow
and actually it'll be better for a
movement because you people actually
fuck the whole thing up it shit up our
ability to reach the masses
what tendency do you think we represent
let's not pretend you're the masters
first of all okay what tendency do you
think we represent
what you represent the urbanoids who are
uh
the number one
like that's like i'm not even meaning
here like like what do you mean by that
urban oil
yeah like it's ruthless cosmopolitan
you're talking about man
you're an urbanoid cuck with no spine
and you basically have no existence
besides institutional reflexivity you
have no okay now you're related to
people authentically you got bingo cards
you have no way to relate to the masses
authentically and every every time every
word that comes out of your mouth is
mediated by some kind of institutional
politically correct reflexivity of
ideological reflexivity oh is what i'm
saying gonna give me cancel or not oh
it's what i'm saying wait wait wait wait
wait wait wait wait wait wait
you literally have you literally have
the mentality of a rep you are a reptile
you're not even a fucking human being
there's not a single thing that's ever
come out of your fucking mouth that
you've said with your chest you've never
said nothing with your chest
everything you say is calculated and
methodical and it it's purely coming
from this hyper reflexive fucking
calculative fucking reptilian type of
cold-blooded
way of
girls texting me right now telling me to
come over so can we like continue this
conversation some other time you have a
you have a what telling you to come over
i have a girl coming telling me to come
over to her place so can we like keep it
up like
have this conversation another time
um well don't get there too fast because
you might walk in uh on her with someone
else so just to be clear yeah she's
definitely
let's just say she's definitely keeping
you on that thread
you definitely sound like your friend
material to me sir
yeah well thank you uh i hope you all
have a great night uh and you know i
like i think your fans are probably cool
i think uh you're better than bosh my
friend disagrees but as far as like e
commentators go you're fine so thanks
man
yeah nobody give a fuck bitch get the
fuck out of here
shut the fuck up bitch
y'all laughing over what you got
gynecomastia and you laughing you
laughing over i mean you're literally a
bitch and you laughing what are you
laughing for
what do you like what i mean
you you you're sitting here
with no self-awareness whatsoever
and the saddest part of all is that this
is actually their sense of humor they
actually got that you know that gritty
gritty yourself body gritty's not funny
bitch that was never funny
but that's just that cultural problem
that we're dealing with now i'm not
against white people i don't think white
people are the problem
i just think
i just think there's a problem
you understand
i just think there's a problem
i think there's a problem when it comes
to
you know people who got this thing where
they they're just fake inauthentic i
don't know where it comes from where you
gotta you don't gotta be a human being
you're gonna be this fake fuck that's
gonna oh and then how do you even speak
that's the type of shit i just think
about that that's the shit that
i hear in my head when i actually come
out and say something
of course i gotta wear it with my chest
bitch i feel ashamed if i don't
sound like that little chapel trap house
little bitch
type of fucking energy huh man i mean i
need to give it witty we're really
humble shut the fuck up bitch
the fuck is that
right but notice how i try to pin them
down on anything of substance literally
anything of substance they go you kind
of have this weird uh slavic nationalism
and then i ask them why is the slavic
nationalism they go and then i corrected
them
it so wait a second you were laughing at
me because apparently i'm the dumb fuck
and you just got caught being a stupid
bitch
so what you laughing for
and at the end of the day i'll tell you
what they're laughing about they're
getting their sense of humor from the
fact that i'm a fucking human being and
they're a bunch of fake fucks and they
think it's somehow absurd that a person
could wear what they are on their sleeve
and just speak with their chests they
find that funny
because that's so unfathomable for them
for somebody to keep it real
you understand
that's what it is it's so unfathomable
that somebody could keep it real and be
this fake irony poison little cuck
talking all that bullshit now anyway
we're gonna continue
and then they got that that that that
can you tell us more about why
entertainment
i mean
what the fuck are you talking about
how is that the hill you die on
how do you say that and not feel
embarrassed that you don't sound stupid
that's stupid as hell
you are a cuck
plain and simple as that
and you know there's things i could say
i don't want to hurt nobody's feelings
but
it's just kind of strange the double
standard
kind of strange you know what they're so
obsessed with that shit but when it
comes to um
now i'm not even going to say it because
you know i still can't there's some
things i can't say but i'm just saying
it's a little ironic
these tools when you take other things
into consideration
as i was saying we kind of got a little
detracted right there
but we're dealing with that um
we're dealing with that
cp usa issue
of
the land back left in the land back left
so these people were trotsky's they came
on and told us we have to abolish the
cpu usa and we have to create the the
socialist alternative and the so-called
saa whatever the fuck the
ban kid humor shit that they were
talking about so a lot of you might ask
how you go so hard on a cpusa
why why should we even have the cpusa
then
okay i'm gonna give you a number of
reasons
number one
there's only one communist party every
other party was a splinter from that one
party that was the party
that party's older than the communist
party of china i understand so that's a
that's our historic party
and why should we seat it to them
because there's still protocols within
that party that are in place
that allow us to overthrow the talist
elements
so that's reason number one
now reason number two
is
you cannot just create a party without
money without having a corporation
and constituting a party is itself some
very dirty business how do you found a
party
how do you constitute a party when you
don't have historical
traditional legitimacy if you i mean
creating a party
you have to have a premise oh we want to
create a party because we want to party
for communists and marxist lands well
there already is one it's the communist
party usa why should anyone join your
party oh because we have a different
line than the leadership of that party
okay why can't you push and successfully
achieve the line that you want to push
in that party
well because they're doing dirty tricks
well if you raise enough awareness and
you draw enough attention to that that
can be addressed if they're uh
you know using illegitimate means that
are beyond the protocols of the party
form with which to prevent and
non-democrat faction from taking over
but from my extent to my familiarity i
don't think that's actually the reason
behind
this shit that's happened
i think there has been a genuine issue
of people who were unable to actually
win
the party i understand
so i'm gonna go ahead and make talon a
co-host just so we can get more people
who are requesting to be able to be
speakers
because i cannot
see
speaker the people requesting i cannot
see them
anyway as i was saying
you know the interesting thing
when it's coming to this land back shit
is that
it's almost exclusively being pushed by
the so-called descendants of the
settlers
and that really opens up an important
question
which is what is this shit really about
this shit is about some cultural
existential guilt of americans who feel
like they lack any authenticity or any
uh
any type of roots in this country
imam go ahead and speak
go ahead and
speak
i want to add to what you're saying with
a lot of people what's their land back
stuff
uh they don't really care about their
land just doing it for like the clout
i don't think you think that's
physically possible possible for a lot
of them like the hawaii for example
puerto rico if they would give the land
back they're going to cut off the mains
blood supply to those islands uh what
america is and you know the history of
those islands are complicated i'll give
you that right they're not picture
perfect
but they don't really care it's just a
trend for the most part and also to like
land back to who are you going to kick
that box out because they're not native
to this country either right
who's who's really indian though we're
doing like the one stop rule it's a very
complicated issue so i think the lamp
acts and it's cringe and gay
um
yeah i appreciate that now i'm going to
open up a can of worms and i'm gonna
start talking about this
because nobody talks about it and i'm
gonna you understand
so for all you land back leftists
fetishizing indigenous people and saying
oh indigenous people that's all
communism that's all socialism and
there's no
issue there
let me ask you all a question
did indigenous tribes enslave african
people yes or no
question for the land back leftist did
indigenous tribes enslave african people
yes or no
were africans enslaved by indigenous
tribes
oh but nobody wants to have that
conversation i'll do that nobody wants
to talk about that now do they because
they want to create a black and white
one-sided picture of the situation
and make it seem like
they can have a simplistic picture was
there any indigenous tribes that fought
for the confederates
and there you go
radio silence from these goddamn
so-called
land back leftists and instead of
actually responding to anything we say
you know tomorrow they're going to make
another thread about the pad socks and
it's going to get 2 000 likes
and they can't engage they can't engage
with anything that's being said
they can't respond to anything that's
being said
any serious history of the united states
must reckon with the unique feature of
settler colonialism
settler colonialism is a core project of
class collaboration capitals development
in europe created a huge industrial
reserve army while a certain level of
unemployed is desirable for reducing the
price of labor power too many desperate
workers represent a threat settled
colonism acted as a pressure valve for
this class conflict i mean wrong wrong
wrong wrong wrong
modern european industry the industrial
revolution that happened in the 19th
century okay settlement in the americas
happened
you know like we're talking 16th century
right
so there's a big
the blank spot in between then that
can't be explained in terms of
the reserve this is the most like this
is just an uneducated take by this
fucking dumbass
yeah that probably explains a huge bulk
of the immigration
maybe
being generous from the 18th century
to the um
early to mid 20th century sure
but by the way
similar processes of displacement also
explain non-european immigration to the
americas and that's a conversation
nobody seems to want to have
a whole lot of the non-european
immigration to the amer america
not only the united states of america
but also south america was also fueled
by displacement processes of
displacement comparable to the
enclosures a lot of palestinians
moved to south america brazil
uh and elsewhere what about australia
the leader of el salvador
buchelle he's a palestinian he's the
president of el salvador
so
you're talking about settler colonialism
like it's uniquely european well that's
just not true right
and also they're saying
um
you know uh
class conscious workers in europe were
beginning to understand that their
interests lay in collective action and
trade unionism bruh people settled in
america
i mean you're talking about a very small
fraction of america's history
not you can't say that's what defines
this fucking country when that's
actually like a very recent history of
the country before
the immigration from eastern europe
italy and uh industrial europe
you did have people that were here that
settled here
according to the logic of a very
different process
once transported to turtle island this
virtue singling motherfucker named your
communist dad he's calling it turtle
island what a corny motherfucker calling
it turtle island the fuck is that
supposed to mean
the allure of indigenous land
converted many of these troublemakers
into shock troopers for primitive
accumulation he's just making shit up
okay so the primitive accumulation that
occurs in the united states
is not going to actually be coming from
the class conscious workers being
displaced in europe
okay
that
happened after the primitive
accumulation so he has the whole history
wrong in the first place
settler colonial projects represent an
attempt for desperate proletarians to
reverse the trauma of enclosure
now first of all even if we assume that
that was true which in this case is not
that is true for
all of history every civilization in
history dealt with the problem of people
who were either landless or there wasn't
enough land well yeah they went and
settled elsewhere to get land whether
that meant displacing others or not
and that's just the history of humanity
um
the prospect of becoming a human farmer
was worth the cost of killing indigenous
people and stealing their land
look at this goddamn protestant
pain-loving view of history where you're
out here basically saying what
the sins of the father
the sins of the father weigh on the
wealth
the sins of the father way on the wealth
this is just guilt-loving this is some
guilt-loving fetishism over here that's
not a materialist analysis that's a
moral analysis
that's moralism
they made a cost-benefit analysis and
they decided to be immoral
and their immorality is what defined
america's history is that a materialist
analysis the hell does that got to do
with imperials you're saying because
they were exceptionally immoral
that's what created america get the fuck
out of here with that dumbass idealist
bullshit
who's this silky potato adam as a
speaker
now i know you're not the same silky
that threatened me in the chat the other
day
made death threats against me in the
chat the other day
go ahead and speak your business and
state your business
go ahead speak your business states your
business
hello
yeah
i can't hear anybody
you can't hear me you can't hear me
hello oh hey oh sorry i thought it was a
glitch uh because i'm outside
i was just wondering have you ever got a
concrete answer from these land back
leftists about what their logical
conclusion is once these indigenous folk
get their land back how are they going
to assimilate into a global economy or
they're just going to be a hunter and
gather tribe based off a noble savage
idea
have they ever told you like have you
ever gotten a concrete so are you the
same silky that was in my chat the other
day making a threat on my life
no
that was a capital silky patio that was
the silky just silky
okay well all right
thank you for your words
anyway
let's continue with this dumb ass shit
with the emergence of a pan-european
concept of whiteness which largely
ameliorated or dissolved ethnic
distinctions among europeans
that wasn't because of the
pan-europeanism
because italians and greeks
and the irish were not considered white
that was because of the enlightenment so
the whiteness came from the
enlightenment so
enlightenment if you're enlightened
right that means you're white
so that's where the white thing came
from it's about the so-called
enlightenment
so whiteness basically means
that you
were enlightened and you were reflexive
enough and conscientious enough
to be able to conform to the
institutions
created by that same cartesian
detached type of way of looking at the
world so yo you people always talk about
white supremacy is white supremacy one
of the biggest hallmarks of white
supremacy is being inauthentic
inauthenticity is one of the biggest
hallmarks
of so-called white supremacy when you
are being
out here and
you know you're uh
you're being completely politically
correct
you're not willing to say you know
you're just being fake as fuck with the
way you're talking sounding like a nerd
ass little bitch and shit like that
hyper reflexive and hyper conscious of
every fucking thing that's what we're
talking about
when it comes to white supremacy
nobody makes that connection nobody
points out how
white supremacy is really about
not being able to be an authentic human
being
who doesn't premise every facet and
aspect of their existence
takes on some kind of hyper conscious
reflexivity
now
that's an issue nobody talks about that
issue right
they love talking about so-called white
supremacy but they're the biggest
examples of that actually i mean let me
put it this way
according to the standards of whiteness
created by the founding fathers back in
the day
the land back leftists would be the
white ones
and actually that's exactly what you're
seeing in ukraine right now why that's
why they're coalescing around the
neo-nazis because why because the
ukrainians are self-aware the ukrainians
go on reddit the ukrainian as of italian
those people are nerds like me and they
they me put my thinking glasses on and
they got that kind of thing going on and
the russians are considered what all the
russians are barbarians and they're orcs
and they're spontaneous
and they're raw authentic human being a
straight white man who loves cops
specifically swat teams understand
so that's the issue we're dealing with
and nobody nobody ever talks about that
issue right nobody ever talks about that
issue but anyway
um
with
rationalized by their attendant liberal
republican ideology settler colonialism
and whiteness constituted a new
principle concert why is it a new
principle contradictory go ahead explain
one which ameliorated class struggle
between european boudoirs and the
proletariat
who shared a common interest manifest
destiny again
according to that logic every form of
civilizational expansion is class
collaborationism
how does that make it a a a
a for a principal contradiction that's
how mao defines a principle
contradiction
a principle contradiction
is that which grounds
all contradictions so a secondary
contradiction is secondary not because
it's just less important
but because it is materially grounded by
the principle contradiction
so
how is that the prince and what is that
a principle contradiction in regards to
that doesn't even make any fucking sense
okay
liberals might take at face value the
ideals articulated by the bourgeois
slavers land speculators and merchants
but marxists must study these ideas only
in the context of the prevailing class
and colonial relations
patriotic socialists thus reveal
themselves as liberals now what the hell
are you talking about
what kind of fucking dumbass logic is
that i mean they just say this shit and
they get applauded for it but nobody
subjects them to any kind of scrutiny
nobody pushes back against it
who said we take anything at face value
do you think you think acknowledging the
materiality of a country
means that you're taking
ideologies at face value
how i'm not we're not saying america's
reduced to the pen and paper of
washington and the founding fathers
we're saying that's a symptom of it
okay so that's just stupid
looking at the 20th century we find
another admirer of american patriotism
adolf hitler
who explicitly modeled leban's rom on
the american model
americanism throughout the 20th century
was synonymous with anti-communism as
the u.s led the anti-communist
imperialism okay so let me get this
straight we are now literally hitler is
that what we're talking about here it's
literally the same as hitler and that's
what we're talking about here okay
gotcha
gotcha just so we're clear we understand
the level of fucking absurdity we're
dealing with
i mean hitler
claimed that it was the an american
model and yeah hitler did admire america
in a lot of ways
i'm not sure what you're trying to say
that doesn't mean america is reducible
to hitler
i mean to be clear hitler asked admired
aspects of america particularly the most
gruesome and ugliest aspects of the
country
but no leopon's rom was not even
comparable to the western expansion
leben's rom
was literally meant to spread eastward
in order to engage in the complete
extermination of all the slavic peoples
and enslavement whatever right now you
could say the same thing happened with
the western expansion except
it's nowhere comparable in scale and
second it is not true
that manifest destiny was about
exterminating indigenous people
that was something that did happen
in varying degrees
but that's not what it was actually
about
that wasn't its purpose
that's very different from leban's rom
where that was explicitly the purpose of
completely depopulating starving
and killing the so-called sub-humans
this is such a stupid and faulty
comparison
right
i mean
what do you mean i'm an admirer of
america he wasn't admiring american
patriotism you fucking dumbass
american patriotism isn't what's uh
responsible
for manifest destiny you're putting
you're you're getting the two
mixed up and uh
confused for each other
you're saying american patriotism was
responsible for for uh
westward expansion what the fuck are you
talking about westward expansion
happened
because again of the this dialectic of
landlessness and settlement
they were settling westward
in order to establish
units of both subsistence
and primitive accumulation which is
actually the class struggle that
underpin it right for some
it was the primitive accumulation for
others it was a new way of a new form of
subsistence where they could just make a
living and have some opportunity where
they didn't in the east
okay
so that's what it was about
now
that wasn't because of american
patriotism
um furthermore you know there was no
notion of sovereignty also that was
established there wasn't any notion of
sovereignty there wasn't any notion of
statehood
among indigenous people
not justifying but it's not the same as
what hitler did
that land was not modernized it wasn't
part of the modern world as we know it
it was part of a completely different
world yeah
and not all of it was being occupied
either by the way it wasn't all being
occupied
america is a big ass fucking place
you're gonna sit and tell me that
every aspect was was being populated no
most of it wasn't
so that's not true
anyway
leave and then yeah they broke a lot of
treaties and did a lot of bad bad shit
i'm not denying that by the way i'm not
trying to cover that up somehow deny
that or downplay that i'm just saying
you can't say the same thing as it's the
same as hitler it's the same as what
hitler did in uh
his expansion eastward it's not the same
it's absolutely not the same
it it hitler was the
rawest expression of the the the worst
aspects of it
and the the most barbaric aspects of it
but no it ain't the same
um
leaving settler colonialism and looking
to imperialism generally
angles and lending criticized the
emergence of a labor aristocracy when
within the proliterative imperialist
countries which enjoyed the higher yeah
but for them that was at the top of the
masses
and what lenin said was that and both
angles and lenin actually said this
that the way to
fight against the labor starts going it
would to be go
down and deeper to the masses
lower into the masses
rather than you know above them which is
what these fucking fake communists are
trying to do
so it's the opposite
the problem was was at the top at the
head
the more educated and more reflexive
they were the worse they were
you go down into the masses
where people are less institutionalized
and that's where you're going to be able
to create you didn't even read what
angle said about the fucking labor
aristocracy
so stupid they weren't the masses they
were the upper crust that was being
bribed
and was falsely trying to lead the
masses
so that's a complete distortion
although the expropriation of indigenous
land and the enslavement of africans are
no longer primary
american workers are placated by
advantageous trade terms which make the
products of colonial economies cheap and
profitable
all right motherfucker i mean this is
just the most stupid shit i ever read
like
who is gonna say that the trade
agreements that america has pursued in
the last 30 years have been advantageous
for american workers
motherfucker where's the advantage
fentanyl shut the fuck up bruh you sound
stupid as hell
as the global south anti-imperialists
like samara mean and utsa have written
there are many mechanisms such as
unequal exchange and income deflation by
which colonial economies support the
relative prosperity of imperialist
countries
yeah
that's at the consumption side of things
but that doesn't last long when you
don't have the income to support that
consumption
and in order to get the income to
support that level of consumption
you have to actually have your own
industries
which america has outsourced
which has actually hurt the workers here
as dialectical materialists we have to
reckon with ever-changing conditions
financializing globalized economy has
diminished many of the bribes
which lead to increased class and talent
but that doesn't mean an increased
revolutionary potential of workers in
the usa
means patriotic socialism there's no
fucking such thing as patriotic
socialism stop calling it a political
pop project cause it's not
we're talking about very bare
bread and butter bare bones marxism
leninism we're not talking about some
special type of fucking thing avocado
we're talking about bare bones marxism
leninism okay
the burden of on us is not to prove
there has to be some special patriotic
socialism
you are not educated as a marxist you
are not educated as a marxist leninist
you are a fucking leptoid who is
educated by some pink-haired fucking
professor
who taught you all sorts of bullshit
which you've translated into the terms
of marxism leninism because you're
trying to be an ed's lord when you got
thrown into society with all the dumb
stupid bullshit you learned in your
college
and got disappointed that no one agrees
with you on it
so shut the fuck up and stop trying to
make it seem like
the burden is on us to create some kind
of so-called
patriotic socialist political project
because that's just about the dumbest
shit i've ever heard
okay
and you're saying on the contrary the
american project runs counter to the
revolutionary segments of the working
class black and indigenous people
motherfucker you
are this is you know what this is this
is the this is the victimization theory
of politics so
the most
desperate people are that's the most
revolutionary they are according to you
that's not how it works you fucking
predator you have the political vision
of a pimp you know what a pimp does they
take advantage of people who are
desperate and vulnerable post marxism
sucks and that's what leftists in
america do they're they have the
pimp theory of politics
where
you're gonna go ahead and take advantage
of people because they're desperate and
vulnerable
and use them to fulfill your ideal
political aims and project
your fucking pervert
okay
black people don't want to be used to
fulfill your fucking ideology
they have their own patriotic
aspirations
and the same shit is true for these
indigenous people you're trying to
fucking fetishize
they don't want to be used by you to
fulfill your edible fantasies
they want to do their own shit
they want their own sovereignty and they
want their own
patriotic self-determination
and that's what they want
they don't want to be used by you for
your marxist fantasy you fucking
pussy
american patriotism has always festered
in the most class collaborationist
reactionary elements of the american
proletariat aka the people who laugh at
me when i try to spread the bullshit i
learned in college to them at work
and assuming they even work alongside
them which they don't catering to these
reactionary elements aka the people who
broke my heart because i told them about
my view of communism and they spit in my
face and laughed at me
amounts to what lenin called taylorson a
party dragging behind the consciousness
of the masses okay
so
when you say we're catering to them
rather than recognizing them as the
subject of class struggle those are two
different things you dumbass
for us to be catering to them
means we're somehow sacrificing
the content of class struggle for them
but if they are the subject of class
struggle
we're not sacrificing anything because
they are the content of class struggle
in the first place you fucking idiot
it's not like we have some set
predefined understanding of class
struggle which we then throw on to the
masses we only exist to serve the people
in the first place that's what class
struggle is dumbass
we only exist to facilitate the class
struggle now in existence not one that
we imagine first
talism has nothing to do
with going lower and deeper into the
masses as lenin said we should
add verbatim he said we should
talism
is when you tail behind the masses
willingness to take on the ruling class
and status quo ergo
if the masses are ready to fight and
you're tailing behind the most
complacent elements
who are kind of unwilling to fight
that's tailism
which is actually what you're doing here
because the masses are willing to fight
right now and yet you seem to be tailing
behind the ones that decide to wear two
masks in their car while driving alone
with a fucking biden fauci sticker on
their bumpers yeah that's the tail of
the masses who aren't fighting those are
the people you're hiding behind right
now they're a tiny minority
okay
that's talesome dumbass
look at how
mao and lennon use the word tailism
in context that's what they were talking
about when
all these fake revolutionaries
would hide behind the masses instead of
leading them as leaders
finally pat socks neglect to examine why
lenin and stalin supported certain
national movements because it weakened
imperialism
um
what's your point nationalism is not
supported for its own sake who the fuck
said anything about nationalism
i didn't say a damn thing about
nationalism nationalism isn't the same
shit as patriotism nationalism is when
you make the nation the content of
struggle i don't think the nation has
any content
worthy of struggle the nation is form
that's the form of the class struggle
get your shit straight nobody's fucking
saying america is its own ends we don't
know what america is because that's the
form of the class struggle but form is
important and that's what we're trying
to fucking say here
we're not saying that's the content
of socialism
you just don't know what nations are is
your fucking problem you think nations
is some idealized community that's not
what a nation is
rather any national movement must be
supported if it weakens imperialism the
principal contradiction
well that's because there needs to be
national movements and conditions of
imperialism okay
but germans and french and british
they don't disavow their nation they can
just kind of take it more for granted
than someone living in an
anti-imperialist situation can
and therefore they don't need any kind
of extra national movement
but that's that itself is worthy into
interrogating today because it's like it
almost seems like
populist movements are more national
than the ruling class
and that's something worth bringing up
and i'm not saying it's nationalism
but it's more authentically national
you know a french communist or a british
communist
fighting their ruling class
is being more patriotic and more
national that's what mao said when he
talked about
how patriotism
in imperialist countries means fighting
the imperialists
say what you want about american
patriotism but it has not nor will ever
serve to weaken imperialism
you know what you fucking dumbass trump
who we all know is in bed with the
establishment and he's bought out by
them
he did more to cause disarray and
contradictions within the imperialist
machinery
than you've ever done in your whole
fucking miserable existence
and i'm talking about you as a current
not just you individually your whole
group
of course american patriotism can weaken
imperialism
what the fuck do you think it means when
people say let's focus on our own
country instead of getting involved
abroad that's a winning message that
fights the imperialist state machinery
yours is a losing message
national liberation struggles are for
oppressed nationalities no it's not
about whether national
patriotism or national liberation is
justified based on some moral
axis like oppression
it's about what that actually is in the
first place
and a national struggle
is necessarily a struggle
about what you can take or not take for
granted as far as the premises of the
class struggle are concerned
it's not about whether it's justified if
you're a professor and you can indulge
in your national
existence
okay brussel i'm gonna go ahead and add
you as a speaker you're raising your
hand go ahead and speak your business
go ahead and speak your business
and they just left so okay you kept
raising your hand and then you just
leave
like damn
way to waste our fucking time
anyway they're saying the us is the
epicenter of global finance capital
white supremacy and reaction you know
what's satanic about this fucker is like
we all know
that that operates in this country as a
invasive force that spreads its
tentacles on the people here too
we all know that
but what this satanic fucker is trying
to say is that even at the lowest levels
of the roots of the people americans are
evil
that's just satanic
that's just literally at odds at that
point with like marx's humanism you're
saying americans at their roots are evil
i mean that there's no hope for them at
all that what i mean like that's just
like a satanic death metal
approach in view you're like it's like a
death metal band song america is evil
burn in hell all americans have no
chance we are gonna go down and i mean
what the fuck are you talking about
that's just some dark satanic shit
you know
but the only people who say that are
edgy quite americans
in the first place
because y'all are the ones who love that
death metals and that's fine
but you're confusing it for marxism
and it's a problem
you got that fetish that ideology where
you just love this idea that everything
around me is evil
and you got that weird thing where you
just you love the guilt it's a guilt see
this is my goal for america i want to
turn america from a guilt-based society
to a shame based society
i want people to have shame
more than guilt
guilt is stupid because
when you're guilty you should just
resolve it and move on but when you
shame shame is what makes you human
we got a problem we got a country where
people come in this space and start
taking a piss
and they got no shame
we got a country where people are
fucking dogs
dogs and cats
and they got no shame
and that's a problem
we need to be a shame based country
not a guilt basic this is what's so
weird about this country y'all will fuck
dogs
y'all will shit in public and piss in
public
and you won't shower for 10 days and
that's fine
but the things of the past
on our consciousness
land back
motherfucker put your pants back
how about instead of land back we get
some pants back
how about we get some
we get some health back
let's get some hygiene back
let's get some dignity back
those are the things we need back before
you're talking about the guilt of the
ancient tomes of the past motherfucker
we got a pressing and immediate issue
which is that
you're taking a shit on the ground in
public
that's pressing and immediate what
you're what the ancestors did a thousand
years ago that's in the distant past
and you are now going outside and you
got your dick out and you you're
flailing it around and like a helicopter
put your pants on
that's what we need back
pants back we don't need land back right
now
y'all have no shame
y'all have no shame you you you go on
twitter and you quote tweet me
naked
with your you know
your nasty i don't even want to say
graphically because it's so disgusting
but your shit is out
and you're trying to insult me
you don't feel shame put some clothes on
what the hell are you doing but you got
no shame you only got guilt no shame
you don't have that material feeling of
shame
you only got guilt
you got that wickedness
where you think you you're above shame
that's racism you gotta talk about that
racism problem
that's racism because
you know everybody else seems to got
shame and you you're kind of flexing
that white supremacy that purity
with that guilt-based mentality
because you're just a moral person we're
not moral we're barbarians and savages
who
act based on our feelings and our
unconscious and you're doing it all
based on your pure morality right get
the fuck out of here motherfucker be a
human being
be a human being
be a damn human being
gerald's 17 page let's see what they're
saying patriotic socialist fail to grasp
and apply dialectical material you
didn't what is dialectical about
anything you said dumbass
all you did was try and say that
the westward expansion was the principal
contradiction
where did you events any understanding
of dialectics at all and where's the
materialism
they give it most of the major errors
name one their errors should inform our
study here are some recommended readings
so this is what happens
they go on twitter and just say some
random bullshit that's got nothing to do
with anything we've ever said and they
get away with this idea that they've
accomplished something
and then meanwhile
they don't actually engage with anything
we've actually fucking said and it's
like
it feels like look
message to these leftoid dumb fucks
right
just stop talking about us
don't even mention us
you literally jack your you circle jerk
and fucking pat yourself on the back
because you made a new thread about why
pat socks are wrong
saying a whole lot of bullshit that
we've never even said
so but why do you do it
at that point if you don't want to
engage with what we've said then just
shut the fuck up about us but you create
this straw man to feel better about
yourselves because you know
we are the ones who are visionaries
we're coming up with everything that's
fresh and new and clean
and based
and we got the shit rolling where you
know
we
are introducing novelty to the space
and you're trying to hijack our shit by
trying to explain us away and it gives
you a sense of novelty now now we're
beating back the pet socks surely our
revolutionary path is forward i just
made a thread about the pad socks and
got 2 000 likes we are surely on track
to the red revolutionary overthrow of
the united states settler colonial
project and the flag of chairman gonzalo
will wave on the ruins of the white
house long live chairman gonzalo like
no
all you're doing is making a fool of
yourself
and it's not gonna get you anywhere
we're the people who are going somewhere
and that's why you have to dick right
off of us by making shit up about us
every day on twitter
and
it makes you feel like you're going
somewhere too but i'm not put it this
way right imagine there's like a current
of wind blowing in some direction and
then somebody gets in front of the wind
and
tries to like go against the wind and it
pushes them in like one inch direction
and it makes them feel like they're
actually moving somehow
no that movement you just felt that
newness and freshness you just felt was
our wind bitch
we're the source of it
we're the source meanwhile you're
standing in the same goddamn place as
you're just standing you're not moving
like we are you're not a force of
movement you're not a force
of change
you ride off of the change that we're
initiating
that's the difference between us
that's the damn difference between us
okay let's bring on
this dude
go ahead speak your business
what's going on man
i wasn't actually um expected to
be allowed to speak can you hear me
i can hear you
hey can you hear me
i can hear you
oh so for some reason um
i can't really hear you whenever
i'm the speaker you're uh muted firm for
me go ahead and see so um
maybe i'll just ask the question and
mute myself hold on
um would you agree that the
invasion of ukraine
um or the military operation whatever
you want to call it
um
from a strategic point of view
at least the invasion of kiev
was botched do you feel as if
the conflict in northern ukraine
um could have been completely avoided
and
uh the chechen commanders that are now
leading
uh the russians to victory
through
southern ukraine
do you think that that strategy could
have been better implemented from the
get-go
i have not seen any evidence the
russians were actually trying to take
kiev it seems pretty clear to me from
what i've seen
now i didn't know this at the time
that they were trying to divert
ukraine's forces from the donbass
and that's why they were in around ukra
uh kiev
it wasn't actually because
they were trying to uh take kia that's
the extent of my knowledge on it
so um
do you think that there was just some
sort of misinformation do you think that
um
and by misinformation do you think that
too and perhaps didn't have the full
idea of
the types of troops that were being sent
uh to kiev um along with the
paratroopers whose goal was to
uh
neutralize uh zilinski
sorry what are you saying
i was asking you
whether you think that there was some
sort of miscommunication between the
russian generals and putin
whereby
no i
i haven't i don't know that's the truth
i don't think so i mean i haven't seen
anything to
indicate that maybe there was i don't
know i really don't i haven't seen
anything to indicate that though it
seems clear to me that
they were in kiev to both destroy
military infrastructure
and uh to divert ukraine's forces from
the dawn best which has always been the
main focus
of their intervention
yeah you know i see your point but at
the same time um
it's kind of interesting that places
like chernys or cherokee i can't
remember the name of the
um the north kind of uh eastern
north of uh kiev
apparently that city was defended by a
single armored battalion so it didn't
seem like a lot of the forces were
diverted from at least in northern
ukraine into the south it seems that the
same troops that were fighting in the
south have been fighting their from from
the get-go with minimal forces if any
being removed from uh
the north of ukraine
um
at least from that perspective
uh the operation seems to have been
botched compared to at least what the
chechen generals are doing in the south
right now where
they tend to be preoccupied with uh you
using or rather just bombarding the
ukraine positions with uh
second world war
um artillery do you know
like can you just admit that that was
like botched essentially
so you told me there was one armored
battalion that defended a town in
northern ukraine that later went to the
south
what does that say that doesn't say
anything about the larger success of
russia's ability to divert ukraine's
military from the donbass i mean what
are you talking about
um what i'm saying is that i don't think
that the
russian forces were diverted from the
donbass in fact the forces that were in
kiev
the ukrainian forces were diverted from
the dawn bass
is what i'm saying
okay
um do you feel as if
the kind of
okay so
in a lot of the polish media especially
a lot of independent journalists are
uncovering that a lot of the equipment
that
um
the russians used in ukraine was simply
not maintained properly right what
happened was for example you had um
listen i really
i don't know what
what is the point here like russia
is in ukraine
and
it's only been if what two months
so why are we why are we trying to make
conclusions i don't think we know enough
to make conclusions i don't know why
there's a russian
thing that this conflict seems to prove
to us that there's going to be
uh no real consequences of places or of
countries like sweden and finland
joining nato essentially because other
than a nuclear conflict there is nothing
that russians can really do
they can make they can have a base in
venezuela and cuba again
they can do a lot i'm sorry you could
off um again i was able to hear you
russia russia can
have a military base in venezuela can
have one in cuba and do a lot of things
to uh
retaliate
if that red line is crossed
by the way
the usa
has said that if china establishes a
military base in the solomon islands
they're not going to write off military
intervention what fucking right does the
us
have to say that china can't have a base
in the solomon islands
but ukraine
sweden finland and all these countries
can join nato run right on russia's
border where the fuck does that come
from
hello
hello
all right well
i can't hear anything you're saying so
we got more people in line i'm gonna add
brussels
as a speaker go ahead
go ahead and state your business
land back
and what what do you
you got anything else to say
land back
and what about it
all right that's all he had to say
so rusty shackleford
adam as a speaker
go ahead and state your business
hey how's it going big dog
i actually i uh i first heard you on the
debate with uh joel davis and keith
woods
so that's kind of where i discovered uh
has so i was wondering what you thought
about the a little bit on the debate on
the right
of supporting ukraine versus supporting
russia
uh
you know i don't
i don't know why anyone
period who claims they're against the
status quo
is gonna
be against russia it's as simple as that
if you're if you are against the status
quo
you can't be against russia so whoever
supporting ukraine is a fed that's all
i'm saying i don't care if they're on
the right or wherever they are if you're
supporting azov and you're on you're
supporting uh
ukraine you are a fed objectively you
are a fed
and it's as simple as that you're a
shill
ain't nothing more to it you're a shield
you're a fed
and i don't really care what ideology
you have that's just what you are
no i i tend to uh
sympathize with that position a little
bit it's just been kind of interesting
to hear the discourse
you know because a lot of people on the
right they talk about a united europe
you know kind of a united
yeah
you you okay united europe you got
united reddit is the truth
yeah so
i don't know what the hell
you know that's just fed shit it's like
if you want to be a cheerleader for the
the deep state and the feds by all means
you can go ahead and have that
lgbt plus flag you can go ahead and fly
that reddit
flag and do all that shit and that's
what y'all are doing go ahead and do
that
just be able to be honest about it
but so so what do you think about uh so
let's take for example
uh
germany kind of you know investing more
in their military
more in their kind of domestic
infrastructure to kind of
to separate from russia yeah so are you
kind of like just against that on by
president
from russia that's got everything to do
with being a dog of the americans
right right
so you think so you think that those so
by doing this they're not going to be as
much of a dog of the americans by what's
happened
no they are they're going to be a dog of
the americans they're going to do
america's bidding with their military
oh okay
yeah
yeah
yeah i kind of wonder what's going to be
the
the long-term consequences of this i
mean
you know i think eventually the
leadership in those european nations
they're going to have to rethink this
position a lot because
it's just not sustainable you know to
keep
essentially like you said to be the dog
of the american kind of imperialist
empire when
you know they obviously don't have your
best interests you know in mind
all right
we got bay hazzad
go ahead and add them as a speaker go
ahead and speak your business
go ahead and speak your business
and it's it's looking like you got no
business to speak
so to speak you got no business
be speaking
on
go ahead and meet yourself
all right okay
all right so i'm gonna go ahead and do
you
okay my mic is can you hear me yeah
uh hi i just want wanted to know your
opinion about the policy matter it's not
related to ukraine
so you know that in the u.s we have a
bankruptcy bill
and like people they actually um
they can apply for bankruptcy and they
can still have like a car and their home
no matter what the price of that home is
or that car is
and they take advantage
yeah i'm sorry i just got immediately
bored i'm about to fall asleep with that
shit so you gotta come on here with
something interesting because
y'all gotta i'm not just the toilet of
your thoughts y'all can't just come on
here and just
flush anything down my way i'm not here
to be
the fucking public bathroom where you
just
whatever things so happen to have on
your mind you just say it
you gotta say something interesting
okay
i'm not here to just
hear everything okay
i mean there's a reason
you understand there's got to be a
reason
there's got to be a reason
and furthermore
what we're going to be talking about
we're going to shift gears and shift the
topic
understand
and we will reconvene
so i'm going to actually make
that space was um glitchy as fuck i'm
gonna start a new space and i'm gonna
call the space
um
let's call it the space
the anti-journalist convention
so we got a space here and hopefully
this one actually i'm gonna get rid of
this blue stacks shit because it's
clearly pointless i can actually have a
way better time
just using the desktop space
plus
i can actually have a way better times
convince just using the desktop space
fuck so we're going to have the anti jar
there's no i have to use bluestacks
there's no other way unless i log into
another twitter account and listen to it
there's no i have to use bluestacks
which i can also do unless i log into
another twitter account you can also do
that hold on let me actually do
let me that go to twitter.com
infrahaz
and
should be able to join a space without
having to have an account right you
don't have to have an account to join a
space do you
fuck i think you do
i think you do
fuck
anyway
we're gonna get right into
it because
the number
see the shit is working way better on my
phone
some reason for some damn reason we're
going to talk about
the problem of journalists and what we
can do about it because there's not much
we can say because we're on twitter but
what is this guy ozzy
fun hate
what you got to say
go ahead and speak your business
go ahead and speak your business
it was uh you were talking about
something like uh
saying like how the british empire was
like full of fucking barbarians and like
what what meme site
be honest with you
and you know i just like fucking uh
watching things for the themes you know
what i mean because like everyday life
like you know it doesn't really serve me
i wish it should but like at the end of
the day it's just like i'm trying to
live my life you know what i mean
yeah
for sure i appreciate the words
like honestly
i've actually
watched
some of your videos and um
i don't know
i would say like i'm more like uh a
census because like i'm just like
politically homeless so i don't really
like
you know i don't like the far right
because like they're like fucking
ridiculous and like i don't like the far
left
because like um all like the academic uh
super intellectual bullshit that may be
feeling like 99 of the time so i agree
with you in like that aspect where it's
like they don't really care about like
real workers
you know what i mean
okay
for sure yeah i understand what you're
saying i understand what you're saying
and yeah i think i agree i think i would
agree with most of what you're saying
because it's like you know i don't like
people getting exploited but like at the
same time i want everybody to like have
equal opportunity to make us like
to go for the highest desire i don't
want to tell anybody like yeah you can
never do something no i agree with that
i agree with that you know yeah yeah i
agree with that
so i i don't know man like you know i
think people need to fucking um
i just want to
see where we can like show up with each
other because i'm from new york so it's
like
you know like a lot of people tell me
like oh this you know discrimination
that discrimination like
new york my whole life like
and i know
you gotta say like i really don't see
like like color but like
growing up in new york it's just like we
don't like you just based on like it
that's more what we should like you know
uh
um fall into because it's like
who the fuck cares like where the fuck
you're from like if you're an asshole we
hate you because your asshole not for
any other reason because of what you
like or what you look like
you know and i know that's a simple way
of looking at it and obviously like you
know a lot of people talk from my
standpoint but like
um
i think people just gotta keep it real
they gotta not be fake don't be hateful
don't be spiteful don't be bitter
and have respect
that's what i believe in
and i also agree with you um i know i
don't know which specific video it was
because i seen it like
people need to be shamed for like not
having like discipline yeah
you know like a lot of people talk on
the internets like you've never been
punching your face
yeah you know
up in new york but like
in new york if you talk shit you gotta
jump for it that's what i that's what
i'm saying that's how it's gotta be
that's how it's really got to be
like you know it's like
bro like just live like looking look at
the world that you live in and like
don't look at it from like such a
cynical aspect like yes the world is
fucking ugly and it's evil but like at
the same time like people are good out i
was actually listening to your um your
space the other day
and um you made a very good point it's
like you know what the american
government is fucked
up but like the american people is good
and i feel like a lot of people don't
come don't ever like really make that
distinction ever
you know what i mean and that's what
fucking pisses me off
like why do you up the fuck and say like
oh america's bad and then you're making
it seem like every fucking human being
in america
not associated with the government is
the same way
as like and
uh so oppressive like the fucking
american government it's like i don't
know i don't really understand that
like
it's just it's just there's a lot of
there's just a lot of hateful people
that
they want to create an identity that
they're more moral than everybody else
they're better than everybody else that
they're the only good ones and then
everybody's you know they just they're
just hateful people you know they're
just haters that's how it's all this
i mean like i said i don't not like you
know um
like too insightful on like the academic
side of it which like
i think um
in my personal opinion because like i i
worked on my trucks for like a large
majority of my life like i am the
working class
but for like the you know i would say
for like the better part by like
my life so i haven't really been in like
that academic field but that's my choice
you know like at the end of the day
but um you know what my uh my mentality
is like you know what if you're not the
smartest as you better damn well make
sure like you outwork every fucking
human being that you possibly can
but um at the end of the day you can't
do anything by yourself you need a
fucking community you need people you
know behind you you need like a
new good community you need to make sure
a lot of people don't get it fucking
exploited and people get paid right if
they have uh
proper health care and
i believe in that stuff i think any
normal same human being that doesn't
like you're a fucking idiot i'm sorry
like you know
that's that's just what i believe and
i'm saying this from like not a like an
intellectual standpoint like this is
like a real standpoint like this is like
a real person talking i'm not an
internet personality i need to think of
this such nature so that's what i'm
saying
yeah i mean i hear i hear you you know
yeah i mean it's like
it's such a shame you got to get through
so much bullshit
with the academic stuff just to get the
common sense you know so you you kind of
saved your time really because
it's a whole lot of bullshit we're
dealing with when it comes to these
academic people they're just over
complicating something that's simple you
know
something that should be simple
it really is so simple it's just like
you know
and
like
you mentioned something i remember i was
watching one of the videos you mentioned
like you were supporting the truckers
like you know what would go in canada
because they were like nice um what's
the word they want to strike a couple
months ago correct me if i'm wrong yeah
and um i remember a lot of the time like
um
it was so funny because i remember like
my father he sent me because he's been
good to politics my father
he sent me an article of saying like oh
like you know these uh news outlets
we're calling like these people nazis
and stuff and i'm like
and it's like mostly like i correct me
if i'm wrong i feel like the media is
very liberal and like left leaning yeah
so the fact that they're calling them
that like
you don't even understand like the core
value like these are the real people
these are the real backbone of america
and you're shitting on them and then you
expect them to fucking be on your side
like you're a fucking idiot and i'm
sorry
yeah and we were getting flack for that
shit because they were saying oh you're
you're supporting the nazis and you're
man get the fuck out of here you know
it's like you your world politics is
supposed to be about the working class
and this is literally the working class
right here
you know
rising up
and then and saying like we don't like
what's going on yeah now all of a sudden
and of course and then you realize that
people's like oh yo i'm telling you bro
like the fucking um everybody's like oh
like if you watch these certain main
channels it's like the fucking um the
pipeline for the all right but like yeah
bro like though like it's the fucking
pipelined they are bro let me tell you
something these leftist these leftist
content creators they all came from the
alt-right they all got that same
reptilian
mentality where they got that thing
where it's like they don't like being
real they all got that nastiness with
them
and it's the same hate they just turned
it into a different language
and you go look at ukraine they're
supporting these damn nazis in ukraine
now so it's like
what does left even mean anymore you
know oh i'm telling you like and you
know it's so crazy because it's like
you you um you're very critical like
because of like the videos that i've
seen you're very critical of like boss
you're very critical of um who else uh
hassan pike i fucking hate hassan pika i
think he's a champagne socialist
like
that much of the politics like you know
like saying like i don't have a stance
on like really anything but like i can
see like who's bullsh who's real and
who's not and like from the very few
people that i watch
like you're a real fucking person like
you really like you're a human being at
the end of the fucking day because like
you don't have like in my personal
opinion
you don't really like
you're not really putting on a fucking
show you're like saying like this is
fucking like really what's going down
like you're not holding back and i feel
like a lot of people like they're just
using their pretend like they say all
these things with the pretentiousness
behind it i don't really fuck with that
you know what i mean because yeah i'm
going to sit here and say like oh
god we have to care about this we have
to care about that meanwhile if you look
in your everyday objective life you
don't deal with 99 of the shit that
people talk about
and that's why people get fucking
frustrated and it's like oh why should i
probably listen to these fucking idiots
that's how i feel
yeah i mean yeah simply i mean like they
they they monopolize the language but
none of the realness you know
uh-huh
i think we should get back to that bro
honestly like you know honestly like
you're doing a lot of good bro like you
know anonymously i'm i'm obser i'm
observing communism a lot more i've read
the comics manifesto i've read like
capitalist books
like i just write i like i like reading
these like i like reading just to get
like an understanding and like the more
we like the more i understand like i
don't feel like a lot of people know
what the fuck they're talking about
you know what i mean yeah
like i know you said that you went to
law school good for you bro i hope you
do big things
but um in my personal opinion i think
like a lot of people like hide behind
like the fact that you have all these
degrees oh bro it's bullshit well the
truth is you know
yeah it's all for the degree by the way
you know it's not right you don't really
learn real shit in college at all you
don't learn nothing
you learn
you you memorize to get it right on the
test so you can get the degree
but you don't actually get to actually
learn anything real i mean maybe you can
absorb some some knowledge that you can
keep with you but
you know it's not it's not real learning
you know everything i've learned i've
learned
away from college i've never learned
anything from college
it's always been taught myself you know
no that's the end of the day like right
now
you know i know i obviously like it it's
an anti-journalist convention we're
talking about like i'm learning how to
call right now but you know like i'm i'm
teaching myself like that's how i just
feel like
you know i think people should take it
more upon their responsibility like
i'll put it to everybody in here this
way and i know like capitalism is um
you know very exploitation and
exploitative
help me out here bro i'm sorry i'm not
too like keen with the words but yeah
exploitative right yeah yeah yes thank
you
i think um you know in order to save the
world you really need to have fucking
money and what's your opinion with uh
elon fine like on twitter
like what's here i mean look if
if he's serious about it that he's gonna
stop
the censorship i'm for it because me and
my a lot of my good friends we're trying
to cover
the wars
and we're getting censored right
we're trying to cover the lies of the
media yeah we're getting censored left
around my jackson jackson eagle he's my
you know biggest one of my biggest
allies
he's still he's locked out of his
account still because he was saying
something about ukraine so i mean i
don't really give a fuck about elon musk
i'm gonna be real with you like i don't
i'm not a fan or whatever but it's like
if he's gonna lift the the censorship
i mean i welcome that i'm happy about it
i'm english bro i think everybody should
have a saying everything and i think it
should be like
you know it shouldn't be biased like
yeah you have some shit this you know
what i mean if you have some shit to say
like you know you guys say like oh
you're very like you know you pray
because it's like i'm sick and tired of
this fucking like media bullshit so like
even if i like i'm telling you like the
fact that i bumped into if you're like
i literally stopped into your channel
like the stuff that's into your channel
like i'm actually like
learning because like learning like
things that you have said and i've
looked it up myself and it was like it's
pretty spot like not listen at the end
of the day nobody's 100 right on
anything
you know what i'm saying yeah yeah i can
do my best you know
and listen bro that's all you have to do
you know and um
you know listen just keep doing what
you're doing bro like you know don't
worry about these uh
these fucking cringe people that come on
sometimes because i'm telling you bro
like the other day i was on space too
like i was having a fucking headache
dude i'm like this is fucking nuts like
i don't know how you deal with
some people
god bless
when i was a teenager i took fucking
mushrooms and lsd so i'm
i i'm i can withstand crazy shit i can
withstand
retarded shit oh sorry i can't i mean i
said regarding
no no no honestly bro i don't know man
like
you know um i think uh
ridiculous shit i think ridiculous yeah
i think it's the correct word yeah it
will be more the correct word
but you know honestly do
i don't even know
it's like the reasonable person because
i you know i'm not going to body you do
in the past few years from like colvin i
realized maybe i'm the only like normal
person
you know what i mean and everybody else
around me is insane and stupid
yeah
the past few years we just like all like
you know crazy and stupid people just
like run rampant and not be shamed for
it so i think we should bring back shane
so you're absolutely right on that i'm
not gonna lie to you
yeah i mean like
yeah i mean i think people are starting
to wake up and i think
in in real life people are a lot less
dumb than
than on the internet that's just my
experience you know in real life
people always seem to gotta they got a
common sense where they're just like
yeah i'm with you
every time i turn on the fucking tv or i
go on the internet it's all dumb shit
so
work
also um
sorry go ahead
they were talking about like um
because like
i don't know like if you're um if you
know anything about this or what's i
wanna ask this opinion on that
on this kind of journalism this one
tanki in this space that i was in
he was um he was saying like the uruguay
um
genocide is like a cultural genocide and
it's not like an actual genocide
and i don't know if you're muslim but
like what's your opinion on that like is
do you think it's like
do you think they're denying it like do
you think it's you know and he's right
like i don't i don't really understand
yeah the truth
the truth is it's like
you know they're
killing people like
over there you know
yeah bro the truth is you know we heard
about the weapons of mass destruction in
iraq you know it's like
when it comes to a place in the world
that we're not familiar with and we
don't speak their language and we don't
have access to them it's really easy
for the media to just
basically make shit up right and i've
done a lot of research a lot of research
about what's going on
in xinjiang with the voyagers
and
you know when they use that word
genocide
i mean
if you knew the truth it would make you
sick how different it it is from the
reality you know
but
they share video there's all these
videos that went viral on twitter and
pictures
and they were all lies you know they had
a video of a
train station and there was all these
prisoners bagged and they had their
hands behind their back and shit
they're like oh look they're taking them
to camps
and those were just prisoners who were
of drug offenses that had nothing to do
with oiggers or anything like that you
know
it's completely a different context
so it's like they take an image or a
video and they put a headline on it and
they say look what the chinese are doing
and then in reality it turns out to be
completely different
you know so
they started to be a little more soft on
that reporting because
they've even admitted now that yeah
xinjiang there's not a crackdown or
lockdown anymore so before there was
a pretty strict crackdown because
they were taking the whole terrorism
thing really seriously you know and some
can say it was an overreaction because
there were some attacks
so it was a little it was very there's a
lot of security there right and there
was a lot of surveillance
but they've loosened up since and you
know the media is not even going with
the angle of a genocide anymore because
they can't get the pictures or the
videos that they can spin that way
because if you go to xinjiang today it's
just people living their life and you
don't have that extra security that they
had before
so they don't they're not able to like
you know make it seem like it's it's
that's what's going on
it's kind of like
um you know it's funny that you say that
because it's kind of like um
my buddy a few years ago he was telling
me that like uh when trump was um
people were saying oh trump was throwing
people in like uh camps and shit like
that um i'm not saying it's the i'm not
saying that trump is a good or he was a
bad person but just like it's the same
kind of scenario where
you tell me this
and um
it was like uh
pictures of camps from like i think 2011
2013 yeah like they were throwing it so
it's kind of like is that kind of like
it's the same type
same type of shit it's literally the
same type of shit it's like
oh wow yeah and it's you know they they
listen china everything in the world
it's going to come down to money you
know
and
that region it's called xinjiang
and china is making this they're making
something called the new silk road right
where they're going to transport goods
from china through there to europe and
through to the whole world and that's
like the key place
in the silk road and that part of that
road right
it's it's the most important place the
u.s has said it's the most important
china said it's the most important
so the us's and uh not just the us but
the uk and australia and others
they're doing this shit because
china's good they're trying to make
a form of trade a world economy of trade
that's through the land right because
right now
we're trading through the sea
so
the way we're transporting goods
is through ships and shipping and stuff
you know about that right
yeah yeah i know about that
shipyards yeah i'm very familiar with
shipping and how that uh how that field
works yeah so what china's doing is
they're trying to make these transport
routes
based in the land right for producing
goods and uh shipping goods and
sending goods and creating all these
economic connections and infrastructure
and railway and all that kind of stuff
they want to take it back to land so
they want to be they want land-based
economic power not sea based right
so they can sell it so they can sell to
like you know europe and
the middle east and africa and all these
other uh yeah it could create
create more economic interconnectivity
because china believes in something they
call it the win-win deals
so we kind of think of things as a
zero-sum game you win if i win you lose
if you win i lose right china's got a
theory where they think
if they can increase economic
flourishing
more economic activity more trade
then everybody can win in some kind of
way everybody can a rising tide lifts
all you know what i'm saying
oh no honestly like you know and um
if you had told me a few years ago that
like i would agree with anything that
like you know the chinese government let
me let me ex exclamation that the
chinese government was doing i would
call you like you're fucking crazy you
know what i mean because like yeah
you know because like
not i want to say my lack of
understanding but just like
just not me caring enough and just
seeing the headlines like we like
i grew up saying like yeah it's like
fucked up and like most governments in
the world are fucked up but like the
fact that they built a lot of railroads
and they you know they controlled colvin
and the way that they did and i was like
but at the same time too i was like i
don't know but
you know the fact that they're doing all
these things and you know they're really
like
they're really making a lot of strides
within their community like with their
economy and
the honestly they're gonna pass america
i would say probably the next five years
people say ten years i would say five
like the way things are going the way
we've been set back like 15 years in the
past three years like they're probably
gonna surpass us within five it's way
closer they got now i believe in my
personal opinion with american china
being super powers and like who's going
to be who's going to surpass who this
china like china's kicking our ass in
every fucking statistical court category
if you really like
sit down and like look at it
you know with like um like you said
the
infrastructure with education
with the economy
with
fucking
whatever else they're fucking kicking
our ass in every accident and it's
honestly like there's not for everybody
to sit here and
pretend like oh yeah we got it like we
really fucking don't
like you ask the average american like
we really fucking don't we don't get
shit in this fucking country we don't
yeah i mean that's that's you know
that's the issue we're facing it's like
you know we're we we are different than
china we're not going to be the same as
china ever they're a way different
society and shit but i mean like there's
some things we can learn from them you
know they get shit done you know they
know how to get shit done and make shit
work and it's like we
we got a big we can't do anything you
know we got this bullshit
congress
which works together to make sure
nothing
they all work together when it benefits
them but when it benefits us they can't
work together somehow right
and
you know
we can't even agree on the call of the
sky bro
yeah yeah
you know what we're gonna do that yeah
but you know when it comes to funding
for war and other countries and shit
it's like
oh they all agree on everything but when
it comes to helping the people here or
doing something to benefit us and our
economy
they they they always say oh we have too
many disagreements like they're working
together but they're all bought out and
shit you know
bro and okay because
and our military budget was increased
well like three trillion yeah or like
maybe two trillions right and curing
world hunger is six billion and you're
gonna tell me that we can't fucking do
that
like
are we are we fucking joking
you know what i mean like yeah if that's
a real you know what i mean if that's a
real price tag for it because like
honestly though like people say six
billion for the pure world hunger is
like
if that's the fucking case we would have
cured it a long fucking time ago but
there's more money and causing problems
i feel like people don't really
understand that like there's more
there's more money in it dude because
they're benefiting from it
they're the better factors they're the
elites
you know what i mean like that's what it
is at the end of the day
yeah people really don't like look at it
that way they don't
and people are distracted they're
focusing on bullshit instead you know
they just
they're learning to hate
you know we got people they they hate
they hate anybody who's uh you know a a
a trump supporter where they they got
real hatred for him and they got real
hatred for
you know people that they're the trump
supporters hate communists bro yeah yeah
you know and it's like honestly i feel
like
if
like
it's all because you you said it
beautifully the other night
if you guys
said it in a way it's like how you
present something right yeah i said it
in a way that makes without the suit of
intellectual bullshit in my opinion a
lot of a lot more people will be on the
outside
a lot more
but everybody wants to make things so
fucking complicated
and like
you're gonna sit here we're gonna talk
fucking
phd
fucking master level
intellectual conversations with people
who
who are working classes who don't care
about none of that shit like that's what
it really comes down to
you know yeah yeah absolutely it's like
it's
the
you know this shit should be a winning
slogan having an economy that serves the
people and not profits
that should be a winnings that should be
easy to win people oh you know it should
be easy to
you know
get people on board with with you know
yeah we should build we should have some
real infrastructure we should invest in
the real economy not the fake
monetary financial economy the real one
not wall street but you know making real
things making real infrastructure you
know real jobs for americans things like
that i mean why is that so hard and
instead of focusing on wars in other
countries we focus on ourselves why is
that so hard to to to you know
to say for why do you why do people feel
like they gotta
bring all this other bullshit into it
like oh and we have to feel guilty and
feel bad about being white or we gotta
feel a bit bad about being male or we
gotta feel bad about being cisgender or
we got to feel bad about being straight
like brah
what has that got to do with real life
any real issues anyone's facing
true dude
i used to be a very liberal person bro
and then like a lot of people do i have
so many people
who i don't even know was like oh you're
a white man you're a bad human being you
don't even know me
like that's a fucking problem it's like
okay i understand yes i have you know
people have power privilege and that
people who are like
i i'm telling you
i'll give you an example for my own
personal life
my i went to the therapist right and i
told her like
she told me i had white privilege i'm
like you know to me i think people who
have white privilege
are like the people who have trust funds
and would never have
fight a day in their life
yeah
that's like seven days a week
yeah you know what i mean like that's
the truth to me white privilege is like
you kick up your feet and i don't care
about any of the real life world
problems while regret with people i
don't really actually see people for
human beings you know i mean that's a
fucking problem like you know
bro it's like you got you got people
working people who are white they work
for a living getting by
earning every dollar that they make
and they pay taxes
and then now what they got to pay
another tax because they were born in
the the wrong fucking skin what is this
dumb boat i mean it's like until they
feed you how about they don't
i mean it's like the way they talk it
they would make it seem like they're
they're paying your bills or some shit
motherfucker it's like a doggy dog world
out here
and
it's like every man for himself
and we earn everything he can and then
and then what i have to you have to feel
guilty about
your skin color or your ethnicity or
some shit it's like but you're you have
earned every dollar you've made getting
by
with everybody against you pretty much
right in a doggy dog type of world
oh absolutely you know
absolutely i i want to say something as
in 2020 i told people i said
we're dealing with the issue of fucking
class it's not race bro because a poor
black person does not have the same
problems as a rich black person
absolutely sorry i don't care what
nobody fucking tells me like
if you're rich in life
right financially i'm not talking
emotionally or mentally if you're rich
in life you don't deal with the same
issues day in day out as somebody who's
fucking poor and struggling and trying
to fight every goddamn day to fucking
exist
you're not going to sit here and tell me
otherwise
i don't i don't care if i sound ignorant
i don't care if i sound like whatever
you know these people in this fucking
space that's just how i feel that's just
what i see
absolutely
that's absolutely
and
you know i'm i am a communist it's just
i want a party
that recognizes and acknowledges that i
want that to be the common sense and
that's what we're fighting for here
we're fighting for a party
that can just acknowledge the fact that
it's about class and that's how it
always used to be too but they changed
it up
because they got infiltrated by fed i
don't know what the hell happened feds
infiltrated it or some shit it's like
you know
i don't know what the hell happened yes
like i'm not
i
was pleasantly surprised because i was
like you know i like learning like i
like hearing things that i like that
could challenge my world view
like you challenge my worldview but like
in a positive way like that i could say
okay like i'm more balanced now yeah
like oh like cause life is not black or
white bro is that it's not
you know what i mean like yes you're
saying things like black and fucking
white like you should not fucking kill
people
you know what i mean you should not
discriminate or commit genocide people
that's
you know yeah that should not even be
disgusting the fact that people discuss
that to me it's like well like you don't
deserve to like you don't deserve to be
heard out bro it's it's crazy
things like you don't want this update
for you know what i mean yeah i mean bro
like there's i've seen crazy shit on
this website i've seen somebody i've
seen people
there you know there's people that was
talking about you know they're
committing suicide and then everybody
started saying oh i'm happy you are
because they had the wrong political
ideology it's like
where the fuck does that come from you
know
you can put the ideology aside for a
second and say like that's another
that's a whole ass other human being and
you're taking that that lightly that
what they
they deserve to die at that point you
know i mean it's like
shit is crazy you know it's vicious it's
vicious
it is it is vicious um
i actually um
i was talking i was one day i was born i
went on omegle i actually bumped into
some like kid who was like an actual
nazi he had like the fucking american
fight with the nuts simple
i sat there
right i talked to this fucking kid i
said bro you don't understand what
you're saying like you're a fucking kid
you know what i mean yeah
you're like you're just angry and you're
misguided and
maybe you have a right to it what you
don't have a right to be is a fucking
idiot
sometimes you need to shut the fuck up
and actually listen to some people and
actually like understand that like
people don't are not out to get you
every single day of your fucking life
and i feel like if people don't look at
each other as like decent human beings
that's why shit is now the way it is now
because we don't have enemies in life in
my personal opinion
everybody else can have their own
opinion but my opportunity you don't
have no fucking enemies you don't
yeah i mean
i see what you're saying when it comes
to that yeah i mean but there are people
like when they come after you and
they're working to
destroy i mean i don't know what you
call it but
you do gotta
sometimes you gotta put up a fight or be
destroyed you know cause there's a lot
of nasty people
but there's a difference because i feel
in my personal opinion and
self-preservation and having enemies
okay
yeah yeah i see what you're saying yeah
like if you have to defend yourself bro
i'm not telling you i'll lie down lay
down and die no
i'm telling you you don't go out your
way
you try to be i agree with that 100
yeah i agree with that that's what i'm
saying yes like
yeah
but we're gonna try to keep it peaceful
we're gonna try to do it the right
fucking way unfortunately
not everybody has that fucking luxury to
say that and i understand that
but um
damn bro it's at home i'm a lit i'm
gonna leave yellow to it bro it was
wonderful talking to you guys like i
hope you have a great fucking youtube i
appreciate the words bro you too
bro i hope i hope we start off i hope
you have a good space i hope it's not
fucking cringe
so let's fucking go
i just want to start all right thank you
for your words bro appreciate you
good talking
real shit bro
peace
see you
all right
um
are y'all it's getting a bit late for me
we're gonna have to cut it short
and we're gonna reconvene i don't know
if we're gonna reconvene tomorrow or
it's gonna be the next day but uh
yeah y'all you know we're keeping it
real here y'all have a good one
see you all around
all right there's a lot of super chats i
gotta um get to because
i usually have the desktop muted when i
do the super space
so i didn't get to see all those super
chats so i'm gonna go ahead and
damn there's a lot okay so uh coding
jesus
two dollars thank you so much for the
two bring back the jamaican caller
el nah
quoting jesus 2. indigenous led to
extinction of a hundred plus species i
didn't know that
toreshi the ten land back appreciate you
toreshi
coding jesus
why give land to people who don't
believe in it
thank you for the two but i'm not
against giving indigenous people land
i'm just against all of it being given
gleb with the five cpusa23
appreciate you bro
johnny with the five thank you man
coding with the two thank you
that's not them laughing that's them
shaking yeah
johnny with the two nervous laughter
that's how it is bro that's how it is
cam blailtrazer with the two
got them running appreciate you bro
why entertain trolls they aren't good
faith i don't know bro that's my problem
coding with the two they see you in
their shadow reed young appreciate you
with the two man
dark dragon off with the five
these tools are just clones of their
boomer parents they paid for
their school yeah
chemtrail blazer with the five what
about australia what about palestine
yeah
true
adam m believe it or not many native
americans are actually very patriotic
true
a lot of people don't know that
jackson i miss that one with the five
ha's straight white man who loves cops
specifically swat teams
i plead guilty to that one you know what
i'm saying one day i'm gonna tell you
all what that means y'all still don't
know what that means i'm gonna tell you
what it means
um
adam and with the two avocado toast
communist
morlock with the two post marxism sucks
i agree i think that's it we got through
all of it
all right yo so let me tell you how it's
gonna be
i'm gonna
see my family tomorrow i haven't seen
him in weeks
i gotta go see my family so tomorrow no
stream
but
stream after
okay
we're gonna have a stream after
so
you know
um
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that's is how it is
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hey
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i just want to say
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goodbye
goodbye to the people who hated on me
goodbye to the people who loved me
goodbye to the people who trusted me
goodbye goodbye to everybody
goodbye to the people who trusted me
goodbye goodbye to everybody
now i need some changes in my life now i
need to move on in life now it's time to
say goodbye goodbye goodbye to everybody
goodbye
to the people who loved
me
goodbye to the people who trusted me
goodbye goodbye to everybody goodbye to
the people who hated me
goodbye to the people who loved me
goodbye to the people who trusted me
goodbye goodbye to everybody
i'm thinking deeply right now my life if
you