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million miles and a million miles and I

mean I'm sorry guys I'm in my new studio

here as you can see

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that's that much is very clear guys

we're probably just gonna get right into

this patreon q a I don't want to waste

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let's get right into it

beginning with Orville Orville thank you

so much for being a patron

one time you were debating someone

and you were talking about how Marx was

not a religious Jew and you said Marx

was a Christian of anything what did you

mean by this

I meant that Marx

uh Marx's father had converted to

Christianity one one last thing did

President Sunday ever give an update he

did not believe it or not he really

didn't

uh so I don't know what's going on with

that

seems like it's going to be one of those

indefinitely postponed debates but as

the record stands it's like he has an L

he's he has an L on his back right now

that he's carrying from our last debate

so that's something you've got to pay I

mean he already took an L from our last

debate that's something you got to keep

in mind right

it's up to him to recover that L he took

and turn it into a w if he can

um

well what I meant Orville

thank you so much for being a patron

Orville by the way is that Marx's father

converted to Christianity and a lot of

people think he just did this for social

and economic reasons but we have proof

from The Young Marx that Marx's adoption

of Christianity at least was very

sincere Marx was a sincere believer in

Christianity before he transitioned into

philosophy

so the reason I said he was a Christian

if anything is because he had

religiously converted to Christianity

before he embarked on his hegelian

philosophy and so the religious Colonel

still motivating Marx probably was

Christian because his sincere religious

belief was Christian from all the

evidence we have through poetry and so

on and so forth moreover

a hegelian dialectics which draws from

the Christian esoteric and kind of

rosacarian whatever tradition I mean

he's very clearly

um based on the logos of Christianity

the basic logic of Christianity

um his understanding of the abstract and

the concrete

draw from Christian mysticism in some

way so some people are in the show queue

beautiful all right let's I'm gonna

bring on voidburn first

what's up void burn how you doing man

hello hello hey what's up man

hey how's it going

um I think in the patreon I was asking

about like how do you how do you ground

the uh the prospect of like uh zero work

hours or increased free time to like an

average like

American worker because there's this uh

predisposition towards like

um you know respecting hard work and

putting your hours in and you know

earning experience and like going

through the ringer in order to like

establish yourself as a as a worker so I

think that there's like this reflexive

I think that there is a reflexive

reaction that some

some Americans might have

at first where they think that as you

talked about in a previous stream they

might have like this reflexive response

where they assume that you're like an r

slash anti-work nerd so then like how do

you dispel this um

this first impression and like really

ground the the prospect

I'm not really big on the jehu stuff

when it comes to the thing about work I

don't think it's a good slogan I've

always stood by that I don't actually

believe in zero I don't think that's a

good slogan now the theory behind it is

this idea uh that

the shortening of wage labor

will correspond to the rise in

development of socialism if you ask

someone like me I don't think we're

going to fully

um

go out of a mandated form of kind of

like labor vouchers or standardized

necessary work you have to do maybe

you'll never will never move beyond that

and if we do it'll probably be like

hundreds of years that's my view so I

don't like that slogan actually

but the theory behind the Zero Hour

stuff is it has to do with wage labor

not necessarily labor in general but

even when it comes to wage labor

some form of it will probably consider

um will probably uh you know continue to

exist

you know in the distant future in some

form

uh sorry not the distant future the the

near future maybe for half a century who

knows right

so I'm not doing on that whole zero

stuff that's something that yeah

something that I brought up like amongst

my co-workers

um I basically like

I propose like a reduction in labor time

in a way that's like we have all this

Reserve labor power that's purposefully

put there in order to undercut wages for

the worker and and this benefits like uh

this benefits like large corporations

that want to like hire from a desperate

pool of people that are on reserve right

what if you just take these people that

uh you have all these people in in the

reserve labor pool and unemployment and

even if they're not like officially on

the books is unemployment if you look at

like the official like YouTube

unemployment index it's usually around

it hovers between like 15 to 20 percent

like given any given year

you can draw from these Reserve labor

pools and train people in uh trades work

if if you ever

if the Biden Administration is actually

serious about repairing infrastructure

and making new infrastructure then you

could draw from this this grouping of uh

of people and you could increase the

amount of people working on a bunch of

different Crews

and then you could split them up

um you can split them up like so that

instead of having people working 10 hour

shifts they're working five hour shifts

and then rotating to a new crew that's

been brought on yeah so it's twice the

amount of people doing like half the

amount of work yeah my my issue with the

anti-work rhetoric is I think that

shortening the workday makes the

physical exploitation of Labor not the

capitalist one just the physical how

much you're getting out of the labor

squeezing out of it much more intense

right yeah there's even more work in a

shorter time because you're actually

working not just sitting around wasting

time which is what the eight hour work

day does so and it makes when you when

you're actually balls to the wall like

getting getting a lot of work done it

makes the day go by way faster and you

feel more accomplished exactly yeah I

kind of more and I I think there's a

defect in the socially I call it Marxist

transcendentalism and I think jehu

dogmatism is guilty of this where your

only Folk focusing on the social not the

material the natural now maybe if from a

strict perspective of understanding

capitalism you don't have to go into the

realm of necessity and physical physical

kind of aspect but definitely when when

we are on the cusp of a socialist motor

production like now you do so I'm very

sympathetic to the kind of physical

grounded theories of Paul Cox shot and

larouche for that matter

which try to kind of understand like

work as a physical phenomena in relation

to Nature

because work is not reducible to wage

labor and I think that's the problem I

have with the anti-work idea like even

in the absence of the wage labor system

that does not mean work disappears and

that doesn't mean standardized work

disappears either even Marx believes in

the early stage of socialism there will

still be an equal standard of Labor

of some kind

so I am not really a dogmatic jehuist

but I do like jehu I do think jehu mogs

the shit out of Western marxists but I

do kind of think it's still within

Western Marxism when you don't also

investigate other things right

yeah I would say he mogs them because he

I think before you said that he's he's

doing a reintroduction of Marx's labor

theory of value but he he's taking it

like way farther he's taking it to a

revolutionary stance

I think that's like respect yeah but I

think it's it's also important to

appreciate work as a physical phenomenon

and that's how you transition to the

realm of necessity and that is a working

class position A working class position

is transforming this yes socially

mediated whatever abstract form of

exchange value which is wage labor and

then bringing that into the realm of

necessity and that's why the mecca

taking thing was so important because

we're trying to separate real work that

will be necessary even under socialism

from dumb meaningless bullshit that only

exists under capitalism for the sake of

uh you know abstract Financial Capital

like Starbucks Baristas and so on and so

on so that's what really defines the

working class position being able to

articulate proletarian work from the

perspective of the kingdom of necessity

physical work that is necessary and good

for society

and I think that's always how it's been

there's always been a glorification of

the factory worker the steel worker and

the proletarian who's actually working

with their hands

you know

turning the Cog wheels of society

keeping them going that's always been

part of Marxism and communism and I

think that's what needs to be brought

back

me and my older brother have had like

really long discussions about this and

my brother has more experience in the

trades than I do so he's been training

me but like we were talking about how

like it's me personally I'm highly

skeptical that the majority of trade

work

uh is gonna be automated because the

majority of the automation that you see

in trade work it's in it's in its very

rudimentary like vulgar stage where it

still requires scaffolding that's set up

I think trade work is a uniquely Mecca

proletarian kind of job the blue collar

job because automation is just going to

increase maybe the level of skill

um

but you're always going to need workers

getting their hands dirty going down and

dirty and actually maintaining and

applying these machines in some form no

matter the level of Automation and I

think the people who think all jobs are

going to be automated are still stuck in

the fordist 20th century conception of

the proletariat that shit yeah can get

automated but the difference with the

mecca proletariat is the mecca

proletariat augments their labor with

the power of machines so maybe the

future blue collar worker will have some

kind of like you know AI Mecca suit or

some AI algorithmically tuned tool or

some shit that's going to be an

interface between them and the forces of

production but the elements of getting

down and dirty to human elements who can

go kind of in between the lines

where there's errors where there's still

stochastic if I'm pronouncing that

correctly kind of uh

errors and problems that will always be

necessary the people going down and

actually doing the work right I don't

think that's going anywhere I just think

people have an outdated understanding of

what the working class is today the blue

collar working class

uses tools and AI is also a tool right

all AI will help do

is augment the forces of production but

they're it's still just going to augment

labor at the end of the day not yeah

that reminds me when you said like like

AGI can only do what it does it can't

it's not something that just

um that develops like the Consciousness

necessary in order to adapt to new new

aspects in its environment in its

immediate environment like everything's

pre everything's pre-programmed

everything's set Within These certain

parameters for it to do that thing

exactly exactly I mean maybe someone can

say something like oh the Boston

robotics

um robots will

eventually replace human labor because

they have had I mean you got to look at

the costs of the production of this shit

and then what indication is there these

costs are going to go down right none

right so it's it doesn't add up you know

the whole notion that automation is

going to replace the working class

doesn't add up and ironically this is

something I notice

a lot actually

oftentimes what automation will do is

replace the most skilled jobs like the

managerial creative jobs so we've seen

that with air right now

and we're also seeing that with

journalists who are threatened by chat

GPI coders are now threatened because of

Automation and AI so oftentimes

automation has the opposite effect it

actually

bankrupts not the poorest kind of

working class normal jobs

but actually the the salary jobs that

that the creative classes so it's like

it's it's almost it's very strange

because you think it's the opposite

you'd think that it's the creative

classes who are safe because oh I'm a

creative human being a robot can't

replace me and then a robot replaces

them but the kind of dumb menial jobs

the repetitive work for some reason the

AI can't really replace that

so it's a really interesting um

dialectic I think irony that that

happens there if you know what I mean

yeah you'd think like uh I feel like

everyone has had that type of bias

everyone like is guilty

it's it's just like a natural uh

predisposition to have where you're

expecting like oh yeah like well art is

like a higher it's a higher form of uh

engagement or action so it wouldn't be

Bots that replace it

yeah I feel like that's like a fair but

another thing too I wanted to like

uh ask you about

um

I don't know if you've been looking into

it that much but uh what do you think is

the key on reconciliation between

like Orthodox Christianity and Marxism

leninism I remember you hinted at it

before in that it has to do with uh

understanding the role of um of the tsar

and like the the Revival of like

Russian royalty and whatnot

but there's some statistics that I'd

looked into where about like uh what was

it there's some like articles that came

out there's three different articles

where it was like 70 of Russians are

still uh sympathetic and nostalgic for

the USSR

and then there was another one that was

like 70 identify as Orthodox Christian

and then 75 percent of Russians hold

some form of distrust in the Orthodox

Church in in Russia I think that's very

uh natural to have distrust in the you

know institution institutions okay

but I still think if you ask them should

we get rid of the church probably no

right so I think it's um still it's a

it's a complicated relationship as it as

it always is really right

but every question sorry sorry to answer

the question uh more broadly

the unity of uh Marxism leninism with

Orthodox Christianity I don't even think

that's just a Russian thing

I've I've decided basically by from

thinking about it for so long that

Russia is really a non-all in relation

to the West

and I don't think that that is I don't

think it's possible for Russia to leave

the West entirely

and I've kind of started to believe that

because of the results I hope I'm not

saying this and and then next week it's

something will change but it's been a

year

and it's clear to me that the Smo was

not some assertion just of independent

Russian sovereignty

it's very clear it's something

inexorably tied to the entire Western

World or what I would like to call the

Christian world as a whole

and the interesting thing then

is that Russia's Orthodox Christianity

is not just Russian it is a definitive

statement on the entire whole of the

Christian world so Russia is taking a

partisan position in some sense against

Western Christianity not

not really like directly because

paradoxically it's also upholding the

traditional Western Christianity but on

a like higher metaphysical plane Russia

is not just saying okay we're just gonna

secede from you Russia is saying

we are an aspect of you the West that

you have cast off from yourself because

all of the traditional anti-globalist

forces in Western countries are

implicitly allied with Russia and that's

not a mistake all of the forces of

conservatism and even just basic

Humanity rootedness right

are all somehow uh uh understanding that

their poll is in Russia if you get some

Texan Cowboy

something like this

for some reason this guy

sees Russia as his poll

despite all the cultural differences and

the differences between American

Christianity and Russian Orthodox

Christianity

maybe that's a premature thesis of some

kind but it seems like Russia

um

Russia's fate is tied to the whole fate

of the West

and that is something I've begun begin

to suspect

because of the the I think that's become

yeah it's become like an inevitability

and it's like been brought to the

surface because of the conflict but I

would also say like

when you said when you said that that

Orthodox Christianity through the

Russian lens is

is basically like

bringing up to the surface that's like

uh we are this aspect of you that you've

forgotten or let go of yes I think uh

that you could relay this to how there's

been a lot of

um like a lot of like criticism or

backlash even in America against like

the Anglican Church in in the UK kind of

like integrating rainbow flag that's a

good point yeah no exactly so it's like

it's not

naturalizations it's one

one Christian civilization

and it's an internal polemic that Russia

is waging against it

and that's kind of how I I've come to

see it I see it as a civil war within

the Christian World in a sense

where it's like the pre-denominational

against like

yeah yes exactly because uh and and

Russian Orthodoxy that is just kind of

like the religion of the Empire so to

speak but it's still orthodox

original Christianity

I really deeply appreciated that you

said at the more I learn about Orthodoxy

something I really deeply appreciate now

that you said before was that uh Russian

Christianity is uniquely uh in a

position to to make new discoveries uh

spirit like spiritually they they're

Saints they they they're very well

versed in arrest Italian like logical

framework they're very well versed in

like conveying their thoughts and and

they there there's like saints that have

contributed like um even though like

he's heretical like Father origin is

still held in high regard because of the

way that he was able to like uh convey

like thoughts of like a depth of love

for faith

and I think that there's and then

there's like Saint Gregory and and Saint

Basil a lot of these um a lot of these

Saints are able to elaborate uh on their

faith and they're able to defend the

faith in a in a um like in a in a

rhetorical fashion that's not like

purely dogmatic right and I think that's

like

I think it's severely underestimated in

the west like it's very very

underestimated how much uh how well put

together like everything has a purpose

like all the the icons like the the the

symbolism and the wording and the word

usage of words like it has a very

distinct and purp uh powerful purpose

yes

um my takeaway is Russia is the end

times it's The Apocalypse of the West

and it's inescapably part of the western

world but also outside of its

paradoxically

and because it's outside of the West it

is really what the West is it's lacan's

logic of the non-all or if you wanted to

Dugan's idea of a paradoxical

elliptical uh

elliptical structure in relation to the

Western logos that Russia possesses

so

I think that's it's basically because of

the failure seems like maybe I'm wrong

of the special military operation now

it's not truly a failure because it's

not over but it's been a year now

it has not completed its aims again I'm

not in the know of what's going on but I

even see Dugan kind of talking about

what what went wrong with that it's very

clear that

this Russia special military operation

was a civil war internal to the entire

Christian world it's not like if China

was in Taiwan if China was going to

Taiwan it's like you know what I mean

two seconds

because China doesn't give a fuck about

the West at the end of the day China's

not like

entangled with it in some China is a

completely different Confucian

civilization

uh

uh it China

um the West can bitch all they want

about China China will not give a fuck

right China will

probably rather resort to immediately

resorting to nukes than be entangled in

this kind of strange paradoxical

relationship that Russia seems to be in

because China is just so different right

um

so yeah

but uh

is there any other questions or

I I was saying that like I was gonna say

that I agree that um

that it it does appear like uh

because even Dugan said that it appears

that like partisans have put too much

emphasis on our military capability when

when I think he said something like we

ourselves weren't even aware the extent

to our military capability and

yeah it's like

um

there's just this broader you could say

that it's like this broader strategy of

like you know divide and conquer and

close and typical British stuff they're

trying to enclose Russia with Moldova

and Ukraine

all along the border

yeah

true yeah

all right well if that's all that's very

insightful uh thanks for your questions

and uh obviously you know

obviously thanks for being a patron but

um no that's really good questions I

mean that I think it was really

insightful

um all right yeah

glad I could uh provide some content

all right see you later man

uh okay so we're gonna bring on Ax

what's up ax how you doing thanks for

being a patron

yo what's going on how's it going hey

what's up uh increase your mic volume

okay one second

is that better yeah it's better

okay so basically my question was

um so Maga basically encompasses like a

bunch of different movements like people

who voted for Obama people who voted for

Bernie you know people vote for Trump

obviously

and the way I see it is like how can I

explain to like my conservative like

family members and friends that like

Maga communism is not like

a subset of Maga with like communism

attached to it I guess but like

what can

Maga communism give

um to those people that Maga doesn't

already give them you know what I mean

I think the the big element with Maga

communism is class consciousness

it's really about this idea that Maga is

supposed to be a working class movement

and yet the special interests

are trying to hijack it or are trying to

push their weight behind the scientists

and I think Trump

somewhat tries to emphasize this

sometimes when he says I am not bought

out by the special donors I'm

independent well why are you independent

because you have a social base in the

blue collar working class

I think that's very important right so

the idea of Maga as a primarily

blue-collar working-class movement

articulating the interests of that class

not you know

professional managerials not you know

these

people who who have you know 500 Acres

of farmland or something in Idaho but

really the blue collar working class

The Working Man right is the basis and

core in Vanguard of Maga

so first it's primarily a form of class

consciousness

and that is meant to kind of

cement

the various alignments and differences

within the Maga movement and articulate

those scientifically what are the

deviations what are the internal threats

so on and so forth where's the desensis

thing coming from why isn't Trump

pulling more from that working class

base why is he trying to Buddy Buddy up

with the Republicans in the way that he

is so it's a way to kind of Turbo Charge

Maga

by distilling that essential Blue Collar

working class element

because I was just worried because

bringing up like the idea of Communism

to someone who's like like for example

my dad he came here like in the 80s you

know he you know

um lived through Reagan in all those

years and I asked him like uh

why immigrate to America what made you

choose America like he could have went

to Europe I'm like why didn't you go to

Europe he said Europe was basically a

shithole at the time like why would I go

there when I can go to America like the

best country

and he had like this idealized version

of America and I think he still does

but he acknowledges a lot of the

problems

of America from Iraq okay

um

yeah I mean uh

uh if you don't want to ask what does he

do as a profession

um well he's um like a general

contractor basically

okay

um yeah so

I I think it really depends right uh

there's different perspectives based on

different backgrounds

but in the main you know Maga communism

has got to have the general quality it's

got to be the general average person

and you know it's it's not always going

to be possible to convince everyone

but

I I would basically say it's it's

the thing is it's not really about

ideology right it's really about the

meat and potatoes the concrete bread and

butter of politics

so the whole thing about like an

idealized America I mean

it's not

it's not there in terms of what it's

trying to address it's not trying to

address

idealizations or the lack thereof it's

trying to address a concrete

political situation here and now

that makes sense

well it does make sense I just I mean

like

I've talked to people co-workers and

such and family members and they're

rhetoric and their grievances

um communism does sound like it can fix

those grievances it's just I'll explain

the communism thing right so right now

we have

uh the big government and the elites and

the corporations who are all rallying

behind the Democratic Party

so all the dumb bullshit you're seeing

the mainstream media all that is rooted

in a specific Block it's just called a

hegemony right

and that hegemony

well there is a social basis of that

right that hegemony is a hegemony

because it's rooted into monopolies

Financial monopolies so the communism

thing is just this idea that you need to

build a hegemony a counter hegemony in

the working class the people who work

literally work with their hands

have approximate direct relation to the

meat and potatoes of actually how do we

get fed what actually gets built in this

country who are the people who if they

go on strike they're going to shut the

whole country down

things like that right truckers things

like that the railway workers for

example

you build a hegemony there

how are you gonna fight the ruling

hegemony that no one likes

unless you build an alternative in the

people that's kind of what I'm trying to

say is it's like the communism aspect is

coming from there it's not about an end

goal type of society you can talk about

whatever Society you want but it's a

stress it's a move supposed to be a

movement a real movement

so I guess that's what I'm trying to say

like the communism aspect just means

let's build our own people's power

through our economic resources com the

combined Collective power of the working

class

instead of having to depend on these

billionaires and members of the ruling

Elites why should we trust them

Trump was a billionaire

okay people trust Trump why does Trump

need a get in bed with all these other

swamp monsters why can't he draw his

strength and power from the working

class

because people don't believe in the

combined power of the working class and

that's what Maga communism is supposed

to emphasize that there is a combined

power of the working class that can be

tapped into and that was what made the

Maga move what made the Maga movement

wasn't Sheldon Adelson it wasn't the

special interests and it wasn't a GOP

the GOP hated Maga through and through

what carried Maga and would carry Trump

to power was the fact that he created a

basis and a political movement of blue

collar working class America the salt of

the earth so that's what Maga communism

is about

and then you don't have to even debate

about the kind of society you want to

see because if we are unconstrained by

the opposing classes and we can just

focus on the salt of the earth Blue

Collar working class they can be the

ones to decide what kind of policies in

society they think and I have an inkling

suspicion that if we have a working

class based movement that reflects their

interests we are going to see policies

that we are going to see a for uh you

know communistic actions that serve the

people rather than Wall Street and the

corporations we are going to see you

know

bring the jobs back Revitalize industry

nationalize the main strategic sectors

of the economy put them in the hands of

the people

um

you know stimulate opportunity for the

average Joe these are all what I would

call communistic policies Land Reform

right things like that stop Bill Gates

from buying up all the farmland and

other big big agribusiness from gobbling

up the Farmland let's Empower let's have

a land reform to empower the small

farmer create new small farmers

so on and so forth things like that

right

no I I do understand and I'm sure like a

vast majority of Americans do share that

view it's just

um the idea of Communism has been like

the well has been poisoned by like the

blue hairs I guess and these days it's

like when people think of Communists

they either think of you know yeah the

Communists of old or the Communists

today they're on like on Twitter like if

you were the front facing view of

Communism I honestly believe like 90 to

like 95 of Americans would be with you

that's why I I am gonna I'm taking steps

to be proactive about this I am

launching a virtual

uh it's not a good word I'm launching an

on-the-ground organization it's going to

be decentralized

I was supposed to launch it this month

obviously I couldn't fulfill that Target

but I'm literally working on it every

day

where I'm gonna give a new name to the

word communist

the word communist will have a new

meaning

you know like the revamping of it will

just like change the perspective of them

we're gonna we're gonna have people

associate the word communism with

people on the ground

doing things that gain a lot of

publicity helping communities calling

out politicians for their bullshit

things of that nature

and we are going to regain

the hegemony over the word communism

and that is something I'm planning like

right now right to do

uh because the cpusa 2036 initiative is

taking too long we're going to

supplement that initiative with

CP USA by example be the party you want

to see

that's the kind of slogan be the make

the cpusa you would like to say thank

you so much PJ appreciate you Trump was

simultaneously the most Libertarian and

most populist president I have ever seen

never in a million years would I have

predicted that yeah very true

so that's what I'm I'm basically talking

about I get what you're saying they uh

the see look it'd be easy to take the

word communism back from the blue hairs

if communists

set the meaning of that word by example

if they went down and gave people a new

idea of what it means to be a communist

by being effective leaders of their

communities and upstanding individuals

in general that people respect and get

along with

yeah honestly like I do believe in that

type of message it's just that there's

gonna be like the DeSantis types and all

the other Democratic types who are going

to be co-opting or I think

I think a lot of the DeSantis is just

the old Republicans that came before

Trump

who were you know

Romney and all I don't know all the

others neocons yeah yeah and they're

like that's the traditional

you know kind of Rich Republican

Suburban Republicans but I think that's

a different demographic than the people

in East Palestine Ohio who who are

carrying Trump Flags now you know

completely different type of person

also um I feel like another one to watch

out for is Pompeo like I feel like

pompeo's really dangerous honestly

yeah you're right

you're right

and then all this like rhetoric of oh

China's evil China is bad even like

unlike Tucker where Tucker like gives a

lot of like based info like he's still

on like that anti-china train

and I feel like that one is like the key

no you're right you're right like

ultimately separating us it's ultimately

going to be about China

um

and right now we are

watching that very closely and one of

the main things about infrared that

separates us is we want to stop the

anti-china agenda because I I don't

think Russia is the true red line I

think China is a lot of people are

pro-russia but anti-china right

and the reason is because they think

they're gonna that they could create an

alliance with Russia against China that

was the strategy of the new uh some

wings of the neoconservatives for a long

time we've been very consistent in our

position on that

so China is really where the real meat

and potatoes are as far as do you really

stand opposed to the hegemony most

people who are pro-russia but anti-china

somewhat are against the information

hegemony right right now temporarily but

in the long term they're still a part of

the deep States hegemony because they're

opposed to China

I'm just worried about like the neocons

idea of China being an aggressor and

giving them an excuse to have like a

preemptive strike against China whether

it's for that Taiwan issue or the nine

dash line looking for one

especially as of recent but uh do you

have any more questions or

no honestly um I just want to say thanks

and I appreciate the answers thank you

ax appreciate you man thank you good

questions

okay EJ

what's up

thanks for being a patron by the way

uh sorry can you hear me all right yeah

I can hear you okay um I'll just get

right to it so I wanted to clarify the

difference between

um

peasantry and the proletariat now I I do

understand that like the peasantry is

based in um

like can you make your mic louder please

oh oh sir yeah sorry

is that better yeah

okay I'll just start over so I wanted to

clarify the difference between the

peasantry and the the proletariat now

can you make it louder again because

it's still really quiet but still still

low it's good there but you got to be

consistent consistently oh okay yeah all

right sorry can you hear me now is that

good okay all right sorry man

um so the difference between the

proletariat and the peasantry now this

is like

um the peasantry is based in agriculture

right

um and the proletariat I guess is more a

pure type of working man

um could you just sort of clarify that

for me yeah so historically

now I've actually wrote about this in

the I it's such a shame I need to change

the title of this sub stack because I

made a sub stack called on the pat socks

split

and it's like a dumb title because most

people think the pad sock split is just

about some internet drama but only like

five percent of it is about the drama 95

of that sub stack is a it's an extremely

dense

very theoretically wealthy text

explaining things like this right going

through things like this

um but in that text so historically

the peasant

is typically defined

as

yes agrarian but the significance of The

Agrarian has to do with the following

right

okay

one

the sale of the um product of

working the land is as Marx pointed out

typically defined

by the quality things like the

um sorry

the

um the quality of the land and the soil

in relation to rent so it's almost like

a bizarre real estate problem

the price of Agricultural Product is not

necessarily determined

that value doesn't necessarily come from

the labor it comes from some kind of um

uh like fertility of the soil what like

a fertility of the soil the productivity

of the soil it's a fixed kind of

constant

that

sorry it's a variable constant but in

the soil not in the labor right okay

the price of the food it's typically the

form of Labor The Peasant is engaging in

is dependent on a variable that is

outside of the control of man in general

that's the most important part right

okay forces of production that's

dependent on the control of man when the

technical forces are production but the

land is completely different it's almost

more kind of in line with the ecological

perspective of like this is

yeah I'm sure it's not in our control

then you have the significance of rent

which has to do with

the relation of the productivity of the

soil and the regularity

that comes with that with a form of rent

based on that is this land productive

well that's going to determine

how much uh one will pay to a landowner

in rent right so the landowners are

parasitic in in relation to this

in general right so really

it's based in ownership of the land

um

now

uh sorry give me a second that's okay

yeah

it helps that helped a lot already so

yeah I just need to remember what I was

gonna say just give me one moment

because if you go into something else

I'm gonna forget this train of thought I

was on

so

okay another thing this is what I was

gonna say The Peasant is typically

defined as such

for that reason and also for the fact

that their

um way of life is typically one of

subsistence in the same way that the

fertility and the productivity of the

soil acquires some kind of regularity

that is transformed into a form of rent

so too is their way of life rather than

some kind of um

completely

alienated uh separation between labor

and the means of production

somehow forms a coherent whole one way

of life that possesses some kind of

regularity that unites labor with the

means of production and therefore can be

qualified as a form of subsistence The

Peasant doesn't just

refer to a specific light form of Labor

agricultural labor it doesn't just refer

to a specific form of

means of production or the ownership

thereof it refers to a specific form of

subsistence right

and that is what defines so uniquely the

nature of the peasant that's why

peasants are not necessarily proletarian

they're not necessarily Petty Bourgeois

and they're not necessarily Bourgeois

Lenin in his uh work on the development

of capitalism in Russia

analyzes the emergence of these

different class categories

as virtual orientations within the

peasantry but overall the peasantry is

defined by this general form of

subsistence

rather than accumulation I should add

right

yeah yeah no okay that's that's really

great um this is still recorded so I'll

just come back to it when I start

reading for real

um other question was um but yeah sorry

I know it sounds like I'm dismissing

again another thing yeah yeah go ahead

the proletarian

is not a form of subsistence the working

class is not defined by a specific form

of subsistence the working class is

defined by the sale of Labor right right

the proletarian is defined by the sale

Those Who Have Nothing typically but

their labor to sell that has been that

was the Mantra their labor in particular

is the productive labor in relation to

the forces of production

now yeah what happened in history and I

emphasized this very strongly in the uh

the patsock split is there was a fusion

of some kind that took place such that

the working class took on a definitive

form of subsistence because of the rise

of the managerial kind of socialistic

state which also established specific

use value of necessity as an economic

variable and something guiding the

economy like the managerial and

regulative State establishes

a specific way of life for all the the

American dream if you want the middle

class it establishes some kind of

um regulatory relationship to the

economy that establishes definitive

entitlements rights regulations and

bureaucracy in relation to the worker so

the workers no longer some completely uh

abstract kind of alienated subject just

selling their labor

at the factory their labor power in

return for a wage in this cold

mechanical interaction the elements of

subsistence is also

established by this new kind of New Deal

or welfare state

um

which basically uh

creates what I call the mecca

proletariat right

and that's what the mecca is the form of

subsistence that augments the labor

power of the worker a means of

production if you will augmenting their

labor power

right this what's it's kind of like a I

guess we're going back to this again but

it's like a new form of a peasantry is

that the idea yes well yeah right

specifically it's not even just a new

form of the peasantry it's how

the working class has evolved in such a

way to

replace what used to only be for the

peasantry

so there's a kind of fusion between the

proletariat and the peasantry it's not

fully a peasantry but it's not just a

pure

English Factory proletariat it's some

kind of unity of the worker and peasant

that wasn't just accomplished in Lenin's

uh

Revolution but also in material reality

in the world in general

okay so um could you could you then

explain

because we still have Farm Workers right

we still have agricultural workers right

yeah so Farm Workers

such as migrant workers yeah yeah

that because the migrant workers are not

citizens

of America

that is like a modern day form of

slavery really because they have no

rights they have no entitlements they

have no

um

uh

regulations basically so it's basically

a form of

the excesses of the barbaric kind of

capitalist system

the remnants of it at least that still

exist are of neoliberalism if you want a

lot of people try to glorify

migrant labor as somehow the epitome of

the proletarian position because of how

oppressed and marginalized it is but the

truth is the proletarian position was

always this thing that was National

informed it was circumstantially an

existential problem that was National

informed and that was somehow resolved

partially at least with the rise of the

regulatory state so the fact that there

is this class of Migrant workers and

foreigners

uh give me one second

you want to be in it or I hope you do

the reaction

okay okay

Nadia's here so sorry yeah so

the fact that there is emerged this

class of people migrants immigrants

refugees that have no rights

um no regulations it doesn't mean it's a

return of the older proletariat it means

it's a yeah because the proletariat

today

is irrev it's it's

um

sorry it is irreversibly a Mecca

proletariat defined by a specific

National form in Mexico or even any of

the countries these migrants come from

within their own country

there is no pure proletariat it's still

some entitlement by the state

economically however small right

it's not just the wild west of

everyone's just a pure proletarianized

subject

so the the phenomena of Migrant work and

refugees being literally it's a form of

exploitation not not in the Marxist

sense by the way okay in a literal sense

exploitation like this they're actually

exploiting people in a way that is um

similar to like slavery or human

trafficking now Farm Workers uh you mean

farmers who own their own land

I have tried to analyze the Dutch

farmers

and I called them the EXO peasantry

because they remain peasants who have

somehow augmented their form of

subsistence with machinery and tools

which they rent out so that that's the

significance of rent they're indebted by

their ownership of these tools now where

the EXO peasantry begins in the mecca

proletariat ends it's not exactly

certain right

but that is so far has been my analysis

of that

yeah that's that's that's a good recap

for me um I I don't want to get too deep

in the Weeds on that but uh another

question here so uh maybe you're not

familiar with Germany that well but if

you are

um where would you like a Layman kind of

start with the um the unification of

Germany and and the reason I'm

interested in that is because this is

this seems to be a very like culturally

fertile period you know like this is

kind of like Marx and Freud and just

like you mean uh

uh yeah the business yeah the Bismarck

era that like where would I start with

that kind of uh that history of Germany

um like a non-fiction book

I unfortunately off the top of my head

okay I I don't think I can recommend

anything but you're right it was a huge

Zeitgeist Freud Marx even yeah Einstein

that's when a lot of people forget uh

herself yeah I mean

that was a big definitive context of the

German conservative Revolution yes yeah

so yes I think uh that's it's it's

definitely something important to

explore but unfortunately off the top of

my head

fair enough fair enough and uh last

question here um you have social realism

tweet kind of caught my eye

um this is this is going to be a weird

question a statement of last

um do you have a sense of like a work of

art or something like a complete work

in a pure American context

that also uh speaks to the USSR social

realism

does that question make sense yes it

does historically it's always been Jack

London yeah all Russians read Jack

London even today probably for that

reason I think Jack London he's also

probably one of my favorite authors ever

right

I've heard that before I'm in Canada

I've heard that from people before so

I'm glad I'm glad to hear you say it

um do you do you think that Jack London

like applies to today in a sense like is

this very relevant yes absolutely I I

you know a lot of people think oh it's

it's bad it's social Darwinism right but

what it really is with Jacqueline his

idea it's really the dog eat dog rugged

realism yeah of Jack London is it's this

sense of

um malign realism that has this strange

Redemptive quality to it like here is

the real fucking truth is that you're

here in the dirt and it's dog eat dog

and that is such a powerful antidote to

the kind of Democratic Socialist

falsehood that probably Reigns today in

literary America this idea oh yeah we

all have this common discursive

Community wokeness morality bullshit and

then here's Jack there's something about

uniquely American about I it's so hard

to put my finger on it but

being able to know that you're knee deep

in shit is such a liberating feeling I

think

and certainly it's probably has

something to do with American

protestantism

but it's definitely my sentiment 100

percent

all right man thanks thanks a lot I'll

I'll dip out of here yeah no problem no

problem yeah thanks for the questions

um

Falafel go ahead ask your question thank

you so much for being a patron

thanks for having me on man a long time

listener long time follower since the

twitch days man it's great to talk to

you you're an OG yeah so anyways I was

just one of my main question right is

about the Black Panthers sort of what

can we learn from the legacy of the

Black Panthers in America if anything as

like American

um you know organizers or or whatever

you you should call it or should we sort

of just look at them as giving us

lessons purely from like the black like

nationalist point of view just curious

to hear your thoughts on that good

question

um

so there is the yes there is an aspect

of like yeah that's just part of the

black National History there's not much

we could learn from it there's that

aspect that's definitely there but

there's also the aspect like pertaining

specifically to the black community

cannot be generalized for all of America

but then there's also the aspect of um

you know this notion of uniquely

post-modern I guess uh

incarnation of partisanship which is I

think significant because the Black

Panther

I think infrared gorillas

have more in common with black panthers

than any American leftist

because we because the infrared partisan

kind of is a well-rounded

full-rounded partisan and the Black

Panther was not just

someone who subscribed to a certain

ideology who is someone who subscribed

to a specific symbolism a specific way

of life a specific sense of fashion and

a specific sense of being which was

itself partisan in nature

and I think that was probably the best

outcome of the American new left when

you think about it because the American

who left was this amalgamation of

cultural bullshit yada yada but it was

only really the Black Panthers who put

that to work the Black Panthers were the

only people who wielded the highest form

of yes post-modern new left cultural

expression but fully

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politicized it made it a partisan thing

that was part of a mass National yes for

the black people movement

uh rooted in the black community

it wasn't just some eclectic oh

consumerism consumerist Identity or

whatever it was like a fully

operationalized militant Army right

so they wept they didn't just weaponize

culture they waged War at the level it's

like they are a real culture warrior in

a sense because their cultural

expression was a gesture of partisanship

not just by the way from a sociological

perspective but in a holistic way

integrated with the political party

itself so I think that

that uh is something

we could we should still think about

today to draw from

right right okay I see I just want to go

on another points you've talked a bit

about her or at least in passing about

the connection between that group and

let's say like organized not organize

cry maybe drug trafficking like drug

dealers oh no sorry maybe gang members I

think it was right talk about the

connection it was probably gang members

yeah yeah exactly between the Panthers

and the Crips from what I know I think

they did try to organize sort of like

these more like lump in I guess you see

maybe degenerate like yes yes but I

think my

objection probably to that sweeping

generalization

has more to do with

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um

the lumpin all classes possess a virtual

orientation

and

a key aspect of the lumpins class

interest has to do with being d-classed

right the fact that they had drawn

themselves from some prior class

position and now their position is just

one of Destruction only right

whereas you look at the Nation of Islam

or the Black Panthers where they're

trying to draw from people who

are criminals for a living

I don't think that's a lump in class

character or at least I don't think

they're establishing a lump in position

I think they're taking people who are

susceptible to a yes a lump in class

position

But ultimately

um

positioning them in a in a revolutionary

and proletarian way and I think that's

what's important is how do you position

these people you're reaching out to how

do you position and structure their

subjectivity because a given person can

be interpolated in multiple ways a

working class person can be interpolated

as Petit Bourgeois they can be

interpolated as lumpin they can be

interpolated as Bourgeois and all of

these virtualities can work

depending on the context and the

circumstance regardless of what kind of

way of living they're they're creating

another important thing is um

they lump in in the context of the black

community

difficult to speak of a lump and proper

because that State of Affairs is

inexorably tied to the National

condition of being exclu of of basically

um

being excluded from any stake in the

economy so to speak the regulatory state

that emerged after the New Deal

in addition to you know

uh not having any autonomous National

self-determination and in that

circumstance

defining People based on their relation

to the law all bets are off now you go

to a ghetto or some shit and people are

part of gangs

is that lumpin

well

I don't know because although it's

illegal from the perspective of the

American state there's still like a code

and a law Within These communities

that is well respected and followed of

some kind it's still some order it's

just not in order that

so when you have the national

the national Dimension applied

it's very difficult to qualify and

categorize things as lumpin ultimately

it's lump in if you're a criminal in

relation to your state but are black

Americans is the American state their

state I think that's what can be

contested right

right right yeah

um so so would you say that or or could

you characterize what

elements today are lump in in society

yes I that's a good question I think the

lump in elements we see today are the

d-classed formerly Suburban people who

fled to Brooklyn and la and stuff Chaz

is lumpin that's my view the lump in are

these journalists

becoming communist quote unquote because

they have a failed career of some kind

the lumpin are only fans

quote-unquote sex workers so on and so

forth this is really where the lumpin is

um also the people who are

um

completely uh

Bohemian kind of

yeah you know squatters hipsters that's

really a lump in tendency that's very

clear to me

would you say that those who were maybe

uh like d-class maybe this is not the

case in America but maybe d-classed up

in other places in Europe or in Canada

because of let's say uh covid measures

or

um that are really good because we're on

YouTube and they deserved it right yeah

maybe they lost their jobs or something

along those I don't know if those people

are lumping

a class is a virtual orientation it's

not just a fixed thing

so for example someone who's addicted to

Fentanyl

is that someone who's lump in

uh

I don't know

I don't think so

I think that's a working class person in

despair

I don't think someone I don't think you

can speak of a lump in a lump in class

and so you can establish a definitive

kind of Interest

defined by

its ability to be deployed for the

purposes of ruling class Intrigue and

destruction right so when thugs are

being hired

to you know

uh commit attacks against

I don't know Working Class People and so

on and so forth that's really an example

of the lumpin right the lump in element

so I think that that's what I would say

like when when you

have not only you're defined by despair

but you have fully given in to your

d-classing to the point where you raise

all of society to that standard oh I was

I was declassed for my formerly middle

class

um Suburban position that I want to

destroy all of America and become a

azovite blue hair Chas Black Block

antifa Thug yeah that's lump it they

have raised their circumstance to the

status of a universal position thereby

interpolating their position not as a

temporary moment of their life but as a

universal lump in class position

because you can lose your job and get

addicted to drugs and then clean up

and then you know get your life together

and somehow

make an honest living are you lumping no

because there's virtualities here right

there's

circumstantial events

it's it matters where you're going not

necessarily you take a snapshot of a

given person you're not going to get

enough you need to understand where

they're going what is their virtual

orientation so that's what I would say

right okay I see so would you say then

that we are or we are going to

experience like a huge rise in like the

lump in population with the Advent of

like

oh automation things of those no not

because of automation but because of the

disappointments the disappointments of

uh the professional managerials yes when

professional managerials lose their job

and Elon Musk fires them from Twitter

they become lumping they tend to

so that's what I would say

but you think that's going to be like a

major Trend in the next like decade or

so Utah

yeah

okay okay but not automation but like

you're talking about a bit about like

GPT the AI stuff right has the potential

to

you know upset or like rendered you tend

to be referring to people

who are old and Legacy kind of working

class Blue Collar jobs or Tradesmen

whose jobs are not going to be automated

anytime soon

so it's really the professional

managerials who lose the most from

automation

not the people doing repetitive jobs

that's a big Paradox I mentioned earlier

right yeah yeah that that was exactly my

points I was just wondering why you

would then say that like automation

might not be you know Big Driver for

that yeah if these people are losing

their jobs because like AI yeah it's

difficult or something really it's

really difficult to pin down the whole

lump in because if you just defined by

illegality what about when there's a

contradiction between the relations

sorry the base and the superstructure

because our legal superstructure isn't

fully adapted

to the relations of production

materially

so that's a gray area and it's difficult

to really talk that much about

right okay yeah that was about it man

thanks a lot for the um answers see ya

yep

foreign

and I'm gonna have to take a piss pretty

soon but Jacob Brown thank you so much

for being a patron

I don't I don't see my communism as a

meme surviving The Descent deception or

another brood of neocons thinking about

the GOP but I'm convinced that the

American Communist partisans should be

written and spoken about is going to

continue for the correct line for some

time

that being said do you think communist

participating in the populist United

firm with Maga is an okay stop Gap until

we can win them over

yeah but there's also a question of

what is your what is going to be the

content of your communism where is your

communism going to draw from what is

going to be the definitive context

defining the relevance of your communism

because talking vaguely and abstractly

or even particularly about issues

America is facing and then say this is

capitalism's fault I have the solution

no one's going to

buy that because you're not

a communist isn't just someone who

abstractly articulates all of society's

problems

under the lens of their own proposed

solution a communist to someone

who articulates society's problems on

their own terms

and at the pace of the people's existing

Consciousness not just their own

ultimately communism is just

when it's not a real movement

when it's in its utopian form which is

99 of the time it's a pure abstraction

and negation oh we shouldn't have

capitalism we should have a money list

classes what does that look like in

practice

concretely what is that right concretely

what is that

don't just tell me what it's not what is

it concretely right what does that look

like concretely

that's why the real that's why Mark says

it's the real movement it's not

an ideal ideals are always negations of

reality

uh you have another question and where

else besides libertarian of Wingo Maga

do you think we might be fruitful to

explore the work of doing the coalition

I think Maga is mainly libertarian

actually I don't know what other wings

are I think the other Wing is probably

the Bitcoin

grind set Bro the young pop Andrew take

people

you know the sneako kind of

people who are looking for an exit from

the nine from the nine to five

because the Woodburn had his question

answered in the VC but still thank you

for being a patron guys I

really got a piss I will be right back I

really really got at this okay so I will

be right back but yeah I really gotta

fuck this give me a second

fuck man

I knocked this shit over give me a sec

oh my God

good morning Revolution

oh my God

foreign

okay

so let's continue

the skeptic dialectic

thank you so much for being a patron are

the written Pieces by ngos about

depopulation and D growth enough

evidence for you

that things like the lower rates of

procreation destruction and family

values and gender or even pandemic and

the resulting Cash Cow are Sinister

conspiratory events to smother Humanity

uh to some extent yes

um I don't doubt this is a possibility

but I'm looking for solid arguments

similarly you could conclude Wars and I

mean you have to follow the money you

have to follow the money you have to

holy fuck Emilio thank you so much for

the 50. oh I did not see that thank you

and crack Destiny's crack two thank you

so much for the 20 man I really

appreciate appreciate you

um

but uh

you have to follow the money the club of

Rome the various institutions and NGO I

mean you have to actually

look at where this stuff is coming from

and its relation to actual reality is it

a necessary conclusion to draw from

reality or does it reflect the specific

and narrow interests of a specific class

that's what you have to ask black ghost

to what extent revolutions need the

involvement of soldiers from the

national Army and what will happen when

robots are willing to replace human

soldiers I don't think it's ever going

to happen

as for

the involvement of soldiers there's

never been a revolution in history that

didn't involve the soldiers and some

capacity fundamental capacity usually

Jan R thanks so much for being a patron

from the perspective can a communist

speak on sociality and culture

you need to maintain focus on the force

of production while commenting on social

issues so the forces of production you

have to understand dialectical form and

content because the forces of production

are involved in the production

of specific

um

forms right

so what is being produced well that's

where you kind of have to take culture

seriously it's like

everything has a specific form right

when you're producing

cars well the cars look a certain way

the cars function in a certain way they

have a specific significance culturally

in society

and what are the cars for and about what

human experiences do they fulfill and

What needs they fulfill

so

forces of production are not separate

from culture

or sociality right

the production in question is nothing

more than the production of human life

in its entirety including culture right

uh what is reaction

interesting question

uh again from Janar I would say reaction

can probably be defined

as uh

holy fuck the chat is not on the screen

that's the first time I noticed this the

chat was never even on the screen what

the fuck okay give me a second

why was chat not on screen this is the

first time I'm noticing this

okay

um thank you so much one-man Army if the

infrared movement needs someone with

military experience to train the

comrades it gladly lend my hand to help

the future is coming soon us

thanks but I don't think that's

something we need anytime soon

so the question of what is reaction

it probably I would say

it's cope I mean I don't I don't know

what else to call it except cope

honestly

um reaction is cope

probably right

uh

reaction is an inability to accept

something that has already come to pass

in society and in history

and reaction is trying to dwell in a

subjective space

that has been rendered impossible so by

nature to me reaction is a vanity

that's what I would say

now that Maga is being hijacked by the

Santos type rhinos along with Biden are

stealing some of the messaging do you

need a new way to distinguish the

partisan position from the establishment

if not and why so what will be the new

distinguishing symbol of American

partisan well we are trying to build a

communist movement in this country

so that is trying to be the sublation of

Maga itself containing Maga

and making it more concrete and

distilled into a higher Essence thank

you emila infrared Gun Club toku

um that might have something to do with

the Future Organization we're launching

but we don't know right

black ghost thanks for being

uh can you elaborate on why ferenti has

been influenced by Trotsky as opposed

for Hudson

for instance because parenti runs

apologia for Communist States he doesn't

really ground himself in the same

communist subjectivity

and that kind of reminds me of how

Trotsky

never grounds himself in any proletarian

position subjectively that has to do

with his rejection of socialism in one

country

he just kind of weaponized Trot wants to

weaponize this class to fulfill his vain

ends

parenting for as much as I like him

does not seem to be like a communist

himself just a guy who

apologizes for things Communists have

done

but maybe I'm wrong

but his fans definitely fit that

criteria and that's the problem

orvo have you read the new document

published in the Chinese foreign

Ministry website I have

what are your thoughts

um

I agree with it

don't know what else to say

Kanye Middle East thank you so much for

being a patron GJ critiques Marx

assume for assuming that the

contradiction imminent to capitalism

paves the way

for a higher more productive social

order

instead of recognizing that this

inherent obstacle

thank you so much one-man Army

appreciate you man

instead of recognizing that this

inherent obstacle antagonism is the

condition of impossibility of the full

development of the productive forces is

simultaneously its condition a

possibility

if we take away the obstacle periodic

crisis unemployment we lose the very

potential that was thwarted by it

so the logic is correct but not the

critique Marx is not guilty of what

gizuk is saying that

two there's two things I have to say to

respond to Zizek on that count

right one is

Marx does not see

the contradiction inherent to capitalism

um

simply as the uh some obstacle to the

full deployment of the productive forces

because Marx still acknowledges a

dialectic of the there's no such thing

as a full deployment of the productive

forces it will always be somehow

historically relative

secondly

um

it's not true that

Marx is rejecting

the constitutive

um

condition of impossibility that Jesus is

talking about

it's not as though Marx doesn't

recognize this the problem with zizik is

he fails to understand

that in our um

articulating and acknowledging the

condition of impossibility one can uh

sorry essentialize it in some what's the

word I'm looking for you can get rid of

all of its unnecessary

um

you can arrive at a greater condition of

impossibility is what I'm trying to say

xenek doesn't seem to recognize that yes

capitalism's contradiction is the

constitutive

uh

the inherent obstacle to the full force

deployment of the force of production is

simultaneously its conditional

possibility yes but that conditional

possibility

itself can undergo a change and develop

into something more essential

so that's my critique of Zizek he

doesn't understand that

the condition of impossibility that is

simultaneously the condition of

possibility

undergoes a dialectical development it

doesn't just stay the same forever

and Marx does not believe in an illusion

of erasing contradictions just

deepening them if that makes sense

um essentializing them is the word I

like to call I use making them more

drawing out their essence

how would you respond to this critique

in a manner that salvages Marx's view of

Communism as I said

are they truly capable of surpassing the

symptom it's not about surpassing the

symptom in acknowledging the symptom

that is communism communism is

consciousness of the inherent obstacle

as itself

the proletariat is the obstacle in

question I hope that's clear to Zizek

proletarian Consciousness means taking

the thing that is the condition of

impossibility as the very new signifier

and that's what really communism is

about Damian thank you so much for being

a patron

infrared position on the Out of Africa

Theory

I

I don't really care uh

I don't know uh it seems to be true but

it doesn't have that much importance to

me

I don't know what other childreners

think benign thanks for being a patron

would you say the real and Lacon is God

yes

how do you understand the real

really is that I understand the real as

well no it's the meaning in the real

which is really what the real is right

I understand the real as bent in such a

way so as to give rise

to its very mediation and the symbolic

the real yes is the negativity Zizek

talks about but it's also the non-all

that is the truth of the whole of

the supposedly non-real reality

Pearl thank you so much for being a

patron what is your take on Samira means

work I see him consistently referenced

by red lips but never read him

I don't think I'm a big fan

uh I have a vague I forgot a lot about

what I've read and learned about him but

from what I did

he didn't leave a good impression on me

where did you start with Hegel and where

would you recommend starting it's been a

it's a years-long process of

just reading him and and

trying to make sense of what he's saying

I guess but probably with Zizek and then

reading him backwards

said on screen that the contradiction

between conservatives and liberals

relied on another contradiction I don't

remember what I said I'm sorry for what

is physics stagnated and practical

applications of new discoveries in

physics why is it stagnated

uh are they keeping us back from

advancements that upend the global

system so it's the radically change yes

I think so not deliberately necessarily

but because

we are stuck by Anglo-Saxon metaphysical

dogmas that are assumed to be

necessarily true but are actually not

it's just there's an assumption they're

necessarily true

for the same reason there's an

assumption that

the current status quo is the best world

possible basically more or less how I'd

put it Jan R what are Western communists

do to not just win but have a legacy of

winners to never lose again

it's not possible to never lose again I

don't think

lose gracefully create a tradition a

solid rock

that will allow you to learn from your

loss is important what is your biggest

critiques of the infrared Community

today

none that I couldn't apply to myself as

well I don't think

that's a tough one

heritis Freemasonry is like the

Voldemort of Nazism for the left

so what is the sober scientific view of

the dead end of Freemasonry itself it's

a real historical phenomenon that is yes

an index of alignment with the British

Empire more or less

um

it's it's a mimicry of Catholicism which

really is right

any updates on the new Ogo merch I'm

getting samples by the end of this week

I think coming in so we're working on it

but I got to get those samples first

before I start giving them to you guys

selling them to you guys because I don't

want to sell you garbage

black ghost do you think of bullshit

jobs the cementification of the 40 hour

week have stemmed from a rational plan

devised by the elites to keep the

population busy or from a passive

unchecked evolution of bureaucracy

probably a combination in some sense

did these developers are probably

product of the industrialization yes but

de-industrialization was also in part uh

deliberate a matter of deliberate policy

so there's that

okay

um how did you get into philosophy so

early on in life did you have a mentor I

didn't thank you so much Tom Smith I

didn't

not not when I first began it's just um

Just Me Myself and I I guess

dark thanks so much for being a patron a

major German Chemical Company

which had been one of the largest

consumers of Russian gas recently

decided to relocate operations to China

due to the impact of sanctions

um what would you the implications for

the US politics if the Deep state is

able to initiate some degree of

reindustrialization by expanding

sanctions and using our domestic gas

production to incentivize companies to

relay locate here

are the factors which prevent the

strategy from being viable I'm not sure

I think they would probably be

short-term

Ambitions not long term we know the

long-term ambition is the growth

so dang thanks for being a patron what

do you

mean by the Anglican God of modernity

um

I forgot a lot of things about

anglicanism but

probably the uh

the dark God right

the god of substance but it was a

substance probably is

I would refer to that maybe Leviathan of

Hobbs

um

the object of the classical physics of

Newton

and the object of the metaphysics of

bacon

can you explain lacan saying that when

God is dead nothing is permitted

sure the basic idea from Lacon is that

if someone believes in a big other like

God you can have some guarantee that

there's good out there and there's

morality out there so you have some

freedom to sin

you have a permission from God that yes

you can do this go ahead and do it

because I'm still God and I'm good and

I'm a source of guarantee

but if there's no God and there's no

source of guarantee there's suddenly a

neurotic burden

to Incarnate Divine morality in oneself

in every kind of way

creates this neurosis and this anxiety

where you can't trust anything anymore

there's no ability to trust any actions

that are outside of some artificially

created man-made structure

so that's the basic idea everything gets

prohibited when there's no God

that was something popularized by Zizek

benign how familiar you are with

geography

very vaguely aside from east west

dialectic which you've covered

extensively have you ever given thoughts

of the north south dialectic

in applying to this antipodal

relationship between Britain Australia

what statements do you see if any

in Australia's case I'm not sure

but in general I

have always wondered

uh why is the map

why is north north and south South it's

arbitrary right

so

you can metaphysically if the north is

idealism the south is materialism

some like the north is the idea of the

South is the material The Head and the

body right

a lot of ways you can maybe try and look

at that how many languages do you speak

ah fluently I would say one

that completely fluently won

reading and writing wise Ahmed thanks so

much for being a patron idea Spirit on

Discord how do you feel about starting

infrared reading group I don't want to

star one but I encourage others to start

them themselves

trip liquid would you mind elaborating

on George groves's significance to you

what about his style do you find

profound and irrelevant to the infrared

products

that's a good question

um

in the case of gross

I like his depiction of absolute

depravity and I find that something

Redemptive about it because I think

gross

is anticipating a new object behind the

destruction of the old Anglo-Saxon

classical modern order

so paradoxically as he's depicting this

filth and Decay and destruction of

society

it almost seems like he's virtually

anticipating a Reconciliation behind it

and there's something beautiful about

that

and it reminds me of the Joker movie

from 2019. rupture thought thanks for

being a patron what are some things as a

community we can do to expand our

capabilities to bring infrared to more

relevance if it involves expanding our

own individual influence what can be

done to expedite this process in an

organic way

without being on original carbon copies

of you

you have to um

be a leader in your own right I don't

know what else to say

what do you think we should be doing in

our own lives that lives up to positive

masculinity in your eyes

be accountable to yourself

first and foremost and don't look for a

community to validate you

be accountable to your own self

what are some good books that we can

read to understand the infrared vision

the most fundamental way we can then

articulate for ourselves

there's none I don't in the most

fundamental way I don't know what to say

right

honestly

I appreciate appreciate you for being a

patron though rupture appreciate you man

trip have you ever Rejoice I haven't but

I've been getting a lot of

recommendations I should and reasons I

should what are your thoughts would you

ever discuss something like if I read it

yeah I would I have not and I know I

should I have to and I will

Violet things with being a patron what

is your advice for Ethiopia to avoid

globalism

foreign

fight for that Renaissance damn because

that's Ethiopia's ticket out of

dependence on foreigners

what are your thoughts on Eritrea I am

very ignorant about the whole situation

um psych I I would not be comfortable

saying much about the Eritrea situation

so guys I have some more I have to use

piss again but I have some more coming

so give me a moment

all right we got some donations I'm

gonna unpause those and then uh

potentially I'm gonna debate someone

but I doubt they're gonna show up thank

you so much one man sorry if that came

off glowy BTW we got a long road ahead

anyway uh no problem thanks for the fire

I appreciate it

baby thanks so much lowity not a patron

yet but wanted to ask your opinion on

Grace belden's asset-like behavior and

ypg cozying up to U.S imperialism red

lips fall from yeah I think brace is a

thing

any interest to get Aaron mate Greenwald

Hedges or even Nader on the show would

be interesting to see conversation with

Normie dissident

it would but I don't think I'm there yet

but it would I just I think I probably

have to grow the channel a little bit

so I don't know how interested you guys

might be in in this

but uh there's some idiot

pseudo-intellectual on Twitter

who's been claiming they've defeated me

in a debate about Marx's Theory because

I haven't been responding to their

idiotic tweets

so I gave them in good faith an offer

and I'm going to show you exactly what

I'm talking about here I gave him in

good faith and offer

where I said you know quite simply that

I and this green screen is crazy

that I am going to respond to their dumb

shit on stream

you know

um

they don't know anything about what

class means in the Marxist sense there

are attacks against me are baseless and

reflective of uh completely

non-existent grasp of Marx's Theory

really

and instead of going back and forth with

them on Twitter and wasting my fucking

time tweeting at them I'm actually just

going to explain very carefully on

stream why they're wrong

systematically fully and comprehensively

and if they don't come on stream to

defend themselves they lose and they

take the fucking out because I'm not

going to spend my life going back and

forth with some mentally ill person on

Twitter forever

so this is the first thing they said now

to give you some context

this person lost the debate with me

um

as far as the original thing was about

what was the original thing about so

they were saying something let me go

back to what it was originally about so

I can remember

so they they quote tweeted something I

was saying in relation to Cock shots

Paul cockshot

and they were saying some shit like

let me find it

okay here it is so there's this original

let me just read what this was okay yeah

so they they did this cringe like

Hitler writes poem where they said

they're gonna murder me because I said

this

I said

angles is passage about the evolution of

the family doesn't really justify the

promotion of these new trends of

neoliberalism whatever

so this and really because I said this

they said they want to murder me so I

was like this is deranged whatever

it's Hitler right poetry

and then they claim Lenin and Stalin

condemned me then they they made a claim

that I'm a trust fund baby

and this is really important so I

pointed out they made zero arguments

about Lenin and Stalin in relation to my

position and why it's Petty Bourgeois

opportunism they had no response so they

decided to go to the personal attack I

guess

and then they say you have not read this

nor have you ever worked a day in your

life you're an insecure trust fund baby

and a streamer and therefore a

capitalist parasite

so I'm I'm going to explain this in a

simple way because they keep going back

and forth like oh prove you're a real

worker you're just a streamer prove you

ever worked a day in your life so now

they're going on this thing of like I'm

the real proletariat I'm the

Revolutionary subject you're a streamer

you've never worked a day in your life

and you're a capitalist streamer so

first of all

um

I mean for anyone who's actually

interested in the audience uh I have

actually worked quite a few jobs in my

life

wow right but um

yeah I am a streamer right now and I do

make my income Off streaming so

technically my individual and personal

class position right now is obviously

not part of the working class so how

does that entitle me

to um be a Marxist or be a communist

well they already acknowledge that

Frederick Engels Karl Marx Lennon Mao

and Stalin were not in fact workers

at all and yet they're still clinging to

this anti-marxist and idealistic

standpoint epistemology According to

which the proletarian position is not

something that is correctly articulated

um

by means of having an adequate grasp of

Marxism but is articulated from directly

and personally

qualifying as a proletarian in your

personal way of earning an income

um so I said you're not the proletarian

I doubt you're even a proletarian

yourself

and then I also said you are not the

Revolutionary subject you can't

personalize you can't personally be the

Revolutionary subject just because you

work a specific kind of job

so they responded with this which is

that the Revolutionary subject is

socially constituted by material

relations okay we're gonna stop there

okay so as far as the abusive words and

we're going to begin completely

dismantling the other fucking idiocy

um

of that sentence alone

so material relations are not

corporealized individual personal

experiences you're using the word

material to give a strong emphasis to

personal experience but the materiality

relevant to Marxism is a social

materiality so the material is not

actually discerned in the form of

individual experience

that standpoint epistemology that has

nothing to do with uh materialism

material relations of production are

themselves social relations and the way

they possess significance in relation to

ideas and ideology and Theory

is not insofar as they um

they uh come from the mouths of people

who are directly proletarians or working

in factories but to the extent to which

they reflect that position

as it's relevant to politics

so I'm going to qualify what I mean by

that

thank you so much PJ but I'm going to

put this on a pause because I just

really want to finish this but I'm going

to put your Dome on a pause but I'll get

to it so but thank you so much

so they're saying you have nothing to

gain materially from a Communist

Revolution because you are a streamer

who never worked and you have to put

your soft little hands to work for the

first time in your life so this is the

brain of a porn addict who's trying to

like get very visceral and personal as

far as my personal motivations and oh

you'd have to wear it you're not willing

to do that and making all these

assumptions about me because they're a

porn addict who can't really dwell in

the ambiguity of yeah I don't really

like know anything about this Haas guy

at all because like he's literally a

stranger to me I know nothing about him

but they have to have some kind of

delusional fantasy as far as how they're

gonna you know represent me in their own

mind but

this extremely like personal and

visceral comment about me just reflects

an unseriousness when it comes to the

theory because I'm trying to be

impersonal when it comes to Theory

just in a strict sense that it's like

um you can't assume these things first

first you have to establish why I'm

theoretically wrong then you can maybe

try and come up with explanations for

why that is pathologically you can't

first impose some pathos on someone and

then dismiss everything they're saying

theoretically

but here's the Paradox I really want to

get to I am someone who I in my view has

dedicated their entire life

to building a communist movement in

America within my own limited

capabilities I had a full ride

scholarship to law school and I could

have become a very successful lawyer and

attorney and I decided I was going to

yes be a streamer instead but when

you're just focusing on the form of me

being a streamer you're assuming that

what I'm doing is replicable when my

streaming has been uniquely defined by

my specific content which is in fact

propagation of a specific ideology and a

specific political stance one that by

the way has repeatedly gotten me

censored and banned from multiple

platforms so when it comes to my

streaming it's the content of my ideas

and my ideology that defines the form

not the reverse I have not tailored an

ideology around being a streamer if that

was the case the majority of my audience

a would be streamer first because the

only people who share the interest the

class position the class interest that

I'm trying to articulate would be in

fact be fellow streamers that is

determined to be a lie okay I don't

think there's really any streamers in my

audience period the second thing was

you'd think there would be a class of

streamers in whom My Views are reflected

but there is not right most streamers

are politically correct and woke

period like most people on Twitch are

most people on YouTube are

when you are

dealing with someone who has specific

political content the only time in which

it would be appropriate to point out

their personal class position would be

to point out how it's limiting their

ability to reach people outside of that

class so that's why you will say this

person has a pay Bourgeois perspective

it's not because they're personally

Petty Bourgeois but it's because as Marx

pointed out in his um I think this was

in either the 18th premiere of the Civil

War in France they can go no farther in

their head than where the petty

bourgeoisie or the bourgeoisie can go as

a class so Marx actually points this out

in the 18th premeras I believe what it

was where he said these politicians are

Petty Bourgeois not because they're

personally Petty Bourgeois and that's

how they make their living but they can

go far no farther in their head than

where this class can go in in real life

right

so

the class content of one's position

can't actually be defined purely by how

that person makes their money

because a class position is social it

has to relate to what social group

that position they're having articulates

and there is always a discontinuity

between the two which is why every major

Marxist in history didn't actually draw

personally from the ranks of the

proletariat now let's just do a little

thought experiment Mark spent most of

his life being a journalist Lenin was

also a journalist who owned who helped

in the ownership of a newspaper so Lenin

was a streamer in his own time because

he owned a media company and a newspaper

so does that mean Lenin's class position

is solely defined by people who own

newspapers and write for newspapers

that's a ridiculous barbaric porn adult

idiotic fucking claim to make for the

simple reason that if you want to

participate in any kind of

revolutionary Praxis you have to begin

with media and information you have to

disseminate your ideas and streaming

just so happens to be the most advanced

and proximate form for the propagation

of ideas as far as I can see right I

have probably reached more people

streaming as far as the propagation of

My Views and my ideas than I could have

with any other medium

if I went down and worked for a soup

kitchen I would reach substantially less

people than if I was streaming so you

can't really just make the Assumption

I'm only in it to stream if I was only

in it to stream I wouldn't take

positions that regularly put me in

danger of being de-platformed first and

foremost that's square one that you

fucking begin with okay

if you want to be a political influencer

or a political actor whatsoever you have

to participate in information Warfare

part of that means dedicating your time

fully to doing that if I worked a

full-time job in a fucking Factory I

would not be able

to participate in actually disseminating

specific kinds of information in the way

that I do I would have less time to do

it which is why Lenin made a point of

saying that even when workers

are formulating the ideology of the

working class they're not doing so as

workers and I can cite that for you

directly just so you can understand what

he was saying

okay here it is

so since there can be no talk of an

independent ideology formulated by the

working masses themselves

and then he has a footnote this doesn't

mean that workers have no part in

creating that ideology but when they do

take part in it they're not doing so as

workers but as socialist theoreticians

they take part only when they are able

and to the extent that they are able why

because these are people who can't earn

a living doing that and therefore they

have to kind of improvise they're mostly

having to work in factories and shit

they can't really you know spend full

time doing that right the people who can

spend their time full time

formulating the independent ideology of

the working masses are going to be

people who yes don't actually have to

work in the factory themselves it's a

basic division of labor that has always

been there in every communist movement

in history and it's only ever been porn

adult anarchists who have objected to

this reality because oh you're not the

real working class the working class is

not individual it's not a personal thing

you can personalize a class is something

social now why I'm saying the class is

something social

is because when you're participating in

any kind of Ideal ideological or

theoretical or discursive

um

kind of uh

uh contradictions you are dealing with

potentialities you are dealing with

things that can potentially relate to

people that can be replicated and

replicability is really the fucking key

the question is really this

is my position Petty Boozer okay well

let's do a test

given an average according to the

Marxist definition working class person

so someone who's engaged in productive

labor Blue Collar labor does my message

resonate with them more or does this

person's message of woke

um terrorism of of murdering people

who are not woke does their message

resonate with working people more than

my message that's how you determine the

class content of the message how can it

be replic replicated in the

Consciousness and in the minds of

classes I have because this is where the

significance class Comes This

pseudo-intellectual has views that

probably can only reflect the

experiences the way of life and the

world of graduate students lump in and

other Elite kind of

academics right whereas my position can

articulate the sensibilities of a much

broader strata of the masses

and that can be put into practice you

could take a survey of the people who

watch me and can be you can even look at

my Maga communism video and look at the

way I can just talk to normal Ordinary

People as opposed to you

so you can't personalize class

class content when it comes to Theory

you never first say what is this

person's class background I'm going to

determine the contents of what they say

that's called reductionism it's not

materialist and it's anti-marxist class

only asserts its relevance when you're

dealing with definite limits of that

content so if you have someone who Lenin

calls a Philistine who can't articulate

the bigger picture and is narrowly

confining themselves to the interests of

some parochial kind of narrow out of

touch you know Urban bourgeoisie of

intellectuals yeah Lenin's gonna say

these are Petty bourgeois intellectuals

because they are limited because they

can't grasp the whole

so it's complete porn adult barbarism to

engage in a reductionism whereby you

first try to investigate someone's

personal class background and then judge

the content of what they're saying that

has nothing to do with Marxism

whatsoever so that's kind of like part

one of this person's inability to

understand what class is class doesn't

assert it's I mean can someone's

personal class background inform

their uh

their position well let's do a thought

experiment let's say Haas is Lord

schmittington and I'm like some landed

Aristocrat who comes from uh Noble

lineage of like the aristocracy of Utah

and I come from a family that's worth

like a billion dollars right okay how

many other people

are like me from my class

that's how you determine the class

content of what I'm saying even if I was

the most bougie of bougie and I was like

a billionaire right

you're not going to get away with saying

that my views reflect the interest of

billionaires unless you're somehow going

to be able to prove that billionaires

are the only people who are receptive to

them

or the people who are primarily

receptive to them like

even if I was this extremely extremely

like

even if I was like part of the

1.0001 it wouldn't actually matter

because how many people in that class

how many of them does my message

resonate with well we can test this take

twitch okay

twitch banned me I got fully banned from

that platform

that's just goes to show how much My

Views were considered unacceptable

by not only the streaming Community but

the people who own twitch and Amazon

okay so you can't really say that what

I'm saying is how how does that fucking

work right it's stupid

anyone who's interested in trying to

articulate a mass communist line in any

kind of way is going to either have to

be a journalist is going to have to be

some kind of like streamer or some

content creator something something that

is not a proletarian job

period that's an unavoidable fact so

saying that as extrapolating that I

want to stop a Communist Revolution

because I'd have to be put to work for

the first time in my life

interesting assumption and we're gonna

get to the uh

failure to grasp what a burden of proof

is and other idiocies coming from this

person because I'm hell-bent on fully

dismantling the idiocy of this person

and humiliating them for the rest of

their fucking life okay

but you can't actually extrapolate this

because could you say the same thing

about Marx imagine if bakunin said this

about Marx Marx you're not you're not

down with my specific interpretation of

Revolution which is the true Communist

Revolution because you'd have to be put

to work this is why you have to focus on

the content first not engage in personal

ad hominem this is literally a logical

fallacy reductionism

because bakunin first has to prove that

his Communist Revolution is the one

that's actually going to lead to one

before he tries to come up with

pathological explanations for why Marx

disagrees with him you have not proven

the correctness of your position all you

have done is engage in ad homs and

personally attacked me before you can

look for personal pathological

explanations for why I have the views

that I do you have to first establish

why they are wrong or one-sided or

incorrect or inadequate in some kind of

way you haven't done that once why is

that because you're a porn adult brain

you're a porn addict who needs an

immediate kind of explanation that

unites

the

um you know the reason for the cause and

for the effect you need to unite the

cause and the effect immediately just

like how pornography does for your brain

right

you even if this was true there would be

no way to tell because that could also

be applied to any other communist in

history the only way you're able to

extrapolate something like this is

the things I mentioned the replicability

how many other fucking streamers does my

position resonate with

you know what I mean like how much of my

audience are streamers

um

what about my position is actually not

conducive to a Communist Revolution can

you consistently defend that because to

be honest

I'm pretty sure materially speaking a

Communist Revolution is far more likely

when it's actually grounded in reality

and not a world of delusion where you're

talking about how we woke woke militants

are gonna Slaughter everyone like you're

living in a fucking delusion this has no

relation materially or even ideally to a

Communist Revolution it's just some shit

in your own fucking head like you can

critique Maga communism all you want and

you can critique my you can humble me

and say oh you don't have that much of a

retause you're right I don't but I have

much more than you do

I have much much more than you do

look I'm doing something with what I

fucking have you have nothing I'm

actually materially speaking trying to

ground

communism in this country

and make communism like a something that

just is at least meaningfully concretely

in this country you could relate to the

concrete circumstances of the

overwhelming majority

and it's for that same reason you accuse

me of getting in the way of your fucking

Revolution how am I doing that

you think I'm scared of your your idea

of what a Communist Revolution is I'm

not because I don't believe it's

possible

you will never win the masses period

give me a fucking strategy where you're

gonna win the fucking masses and I'm

blind to the success of this and by the

way put it into fucking practice put

your fucking money where your mouth is

I'm literally launching an organization

probably this month and announcing it

we're gonna put into practice to reach

the masses we're already fucking doing

it with flying colors and success as

small as our community is the ability

for my viewers to reach their co-workers

and the people around them real

proletarians by you it's been a

Monumental success to be able to give

people a new perspective on what

communism is but I'm actually here to

test all this and put it into practice

show me your practice though show me how

you are actually going to win the masses

in practice don't fucking sit here and

tell me in posture oh my delusion

theories no you need to actually show me

how your position

abusive to a Communist Revolution by

proving it in reality

we have established step one which is a

foot in the door with ordinary people

we do have that by the way we have a

fucking foot in the door and an ability

to talk to people who are not in our

discursive

and ideological bubbles in productive

and interesting ways that's step one and

by the way my community is so small

relative to what would be necessary to

like launching a mass party and we're

still making steps we have steps you

have nothing

my community couldn't even exist if I

was like you if I couldn't reach the

working class I wouldn't have a

community

because like it or not a huge if not the

majority but a substantial proportion is

what can be proven of my community are

actually blue collar workers themselves

who listen to me because my message

resonates with them on a yes personal

level you will never be able to reach

those kinds of people until you can

reach the kinds of people I can reach

shut the fuck up posturing about what is

class and what is not class

you're saying I'm a Bourgeois rentier

parasite okay well that would apply to

literally every other person who makes a

living on the basis of the propagation

of specific forms of information which

is actually a necessary prerequisite to

building any kind of alternative

political hegemony whatsoever yes not

everyone in April it's look dude the

leaders of the proletarian movement are

not themselves going to be the people

working in factories they're they're

going to be the people who can dedicate

enough of their spare time to

formulating and articulating the best

ideology and political strategy for the

proletariat now what is going to Humble

those people

and keep them grounded in the

proletarian class is the fact that they

will not go anywhere without the

proletariat

their ability to move forward will be

based on going deeper in the masses

that's what defines the proletarian

position if I could fucking sit here and

skirt by getting all these deals from

twitch and being rewarded by the fucking

bourgeoisie and the institutions and the

academic institutions and the ngos and

all these fucking Democrat politicians

and shit and if they were sitting here

and giving me fucking benefits for

saying the shit that I was and if I

could buddy buddy with the fucking

establishment and that's how I could

skirt by as a vehicle for the

propagation of My Views and my ideas

yeah you could call me a fucking sellout

in a rent to your parasite but the fact

is my message is only being carried

forward because I am going down to

people who work for a fucking living

those are the people who fund me those

are the people who carry my message and

those are the people that are the basis

of my entire fucking platform without

them I'm nothing that's what makes my

fucking position a proletarian one I am

not selling out to the institutions of

the bourgeoisie like you are when you

fucking say that wokeness is

revolutionary and shit where the fuck do

you think wokeness comes from if not the

institutions of Bourgeois hegemony you

say shit that won't ever get you fucking

fired won't ever fucking get you banned

from anywhere you have the fucking god

to call me a fucking parasite you're a

goddamn prostitute of the fucking

parasites you are a fucking parasite

foreign

is that why the only reason the only

reason my message has any fucking

currency is because I wagered on the

working class I put my faith on people

who literally have nothing to sell but

their labor they have no basis in the

institutions these are not higher ups

who are part of these fucking social

networks and these Insider one big club

that George Carlin was fucking talking

about I get my fucking mandate from

people who are outside of the hegemony

that's the only fucking reason I exist

dude what part of that doesn't make

sense to you nobody propped me up I

didn't get approval from the fucking

people who are the elites in the ruling

class in the bourgeoisie they fucking

hate me and they try to ban and censor

me at every fucking turn the only reason

you have ever heard of a guy named

infrared Haas is because I have a

community

that is able to work for a living and

therefore articulate a Consciousness

that is not fully institutionalized and

that alone

enables them to give them that announce

alone enables them to give them

their give me my their ear they give me

their ear

they will at least hear me out because

they can be they can afford to be

open-minded

you're a fucking shill you fucking fraud

the next time infrared starts to rant

about service workers and non-productive

labor remember that yours is truly

extracted the confession from him that

he never worked a day in his life in a

working class job and as a bruising a

rentier so I'm gonna address the second

part first and then we're gonna get to

this fucking idiot on this part because

this is also the second part of the

utter destruction permanent destruction

by the way that I'm going to enforce on

this person okay so first of all

I never worked a day first of all

I'm a Bourgeois rentier okay how many

other fucking Bourgeois renters does my

message resonate with

it's such a stupid fucking thing to say

by the way I never claimed to be the

working class I don't work A working

class job neither did any other leader

of the working class in history I'm not

a leader of the working class either

right now but I am trying to articulate

a political and ideological American

working class line

and none of the people who have ever

done that in history were working

working-class jobs primarily they had to

have the free time to be able to use

their head

full time

but here's the ultimate test am I

defending the right for streamers to

unionize am I saying streamers deserve

rights am I saying the communist

movement should Pander to streamers and

call streamers the Revolutionary subject

no I can easily say the average streamer

fuck them I don't like the average

fucking streamer and I don't think

streamers are entitled to shit streamers

are entitled to nothing

if you're a successful streamer congrats

you made it you're not entitled to it

enough people like you enough to want to

fucking send you money that doesn't mean

anything as far as a coherent class

position is concerned you think I'm a

streamer

for a living because I'm part of some

streamer Union and I've articulated a

collective I'm in this by myself you

fucking dumb bitch

you know what I mean

it's not like I'm out here lobbying for

streamers the fact that I happen to be a

streamer doesn't mean I'm socially that

my position is socially uh streamer in

quality no it's not

I am not out here lobbying for fucking

streamers and saying that streamers are

the Revolutionary subject I don't have

to be personally the Revolutionary

subject

for someone to be able to lend me their

ear all I have to be is a fucking human

being speaking from my fucking heart you

fucking idiot

you don't know shit about Marxism you

think fucking oh we can't read Marx

because he wasn't a worker you're a

fucking dumbass

you think Marx was out here being like

okay Marx was a journalist so you think

that Marx has to

socialize his personal circumstances and

be like oh my God journalists are the

Revolutionary subject no Mark is a

journalist who said the proletariat was

the Revolutionary subject a class which

he did not personally belong to the fact

that you're sick directly personalizing

class is pathological

it's a symptom of porn addiction and

it's also relating to something I can't

even talk about on YouTube

but is full full perversion full

perversion

which has nothing to do with Marxism now

we're going to get in the idiot

epistemology

sorry basic logical fallacies

misunderstanding the burden of proof so

this one's actually really simple

according to this person I have never

worked a day in my life because I refuse

to provide proof to this person that

I've ever worked today in my life

that's not how evidence works though

that's not how truth works the truth is

you don't know if I've ever worked a day

in my life you can try to claim that

your inferences carry some intuitive

value

but why should anyone listen to what you

have to say where's your proof that your

intuitions or your inferences based on

your own experiences are worth shit

right or even

any necessary conclusion can be drawn

out of them

if I don't want to provide you proof

that I've worked a day in my life it's

probably because you're not worth shit

to me

it's probably because I don't even think

it's significant which it's not beyond

the fact that it confirms you live in a

delusional world and third of all this

is the most important one ready to drum

roll I don't not interested in fucking

doxing myself just to prove that you're

a fucking delusional person who

regularly tells yourselves lies about

reality which everyone else can see is

false in which I know with certainty to

be false because it's not the only lie

you tell yourself which I personally

know to be a fucking lie

I'm not going to say what that is

because you're not allowed to

I know you're lying about me when you

claim you never worked a day in your

life if I don't want to provide proof

for that well why do I need to do that

when I already fucking know second of

all even if I did want to shatter you

and I don't want to take the risk that

might be dangerous by providing the

proof is it worth doxing myself it's not

because imagine I provide the pay stub

and they go oh where's your real full

legal name and your ID or government

shut the fuck up

what a stupid oh so so if I don't do

what you say

um that means your baseless claim is

true oh Haas do what I say

or else what I'm saying stands or else

you're admitting you never worked a day

in your life no I'm not admitting that

I'm just refusing to fucking do what you

say and Obey you the fuck

this person doesn't know so this person

said you never work the day in your life

and I said okay that wouldn't be the

first delusion you have about reality

and they're like oh well then prove it

no that's not how the burden of proof

works I'll I'll help you right now with

Wikipedia on what the burden of proof is

okay

so burden of proof Wikipedia I'll help

you understand what that is okay

because I know you probably don't read

books so I'll just we'll just go through

Wikipedia which should be easy enough so

when two parties are in a discussion and

one makes a claim that the other

disputes the one who makes the claim has

the burden of proof to justify or

substantiate that claim especially when

it challenges or perceived status quo so

you made a claim which is that I've

never worked a day in my life you

brought that into the discussion

unwarranted it has as I've just

established it doesn't even have any

significance although I can personally

vouch that it's not true

you made that claim

so the burden of proof is on you to

substantiate your claim with some kind

of evidence if you can't do that then in

the social public realm the most you can

say is we don't know if you have or not

Haas because you don't you just don't

know it can't be proven one way or

another now personally I don't care

about proving it

I don't care about proving it I don't

because I don't even think it's

significant

in the first place I've forcing him to

confess to the most shameful stuff you

are a porn addict because I've confessed

to what to nothing

you just assumed that I have so for the

grand finale of the utter destruction of

this fucking person

let's actually link them the video

let's actually just link them the video

right now starting with the time stamp

right now

so where did this begin

it came off Chloe BTW we got a long road

ahead anyway uh no problem thanks for

the five appreciate it

not a patron yet but Marx's Theory

because I have

okay so 38 intellectual on Twitter

who's been claiming they've defeated me

in a debate about Marxist yeah I think

so much lowity not a patron yet but

so it's 38.25 in a debate about Marx's

Theory because I have

in a debate about Marx's Theory because

I haven't this might be in in this

but uh there's there okay it's like 38

37 okay

so how do I do that time stamp because

I'm not exactly sure

38 37 okay that's actually uh

where is that that's

okay what does the time stand for where

this fucking starts right

you have just been utterly destroyed

by not

coming on stream to defend

your argument you permanently admit

defeat for all eternity

sorry this happened to you no no I'm not

sorry this happened to you

this is uh 30

this is not the first 30 seconds I hate

how it shows everything backwards what

the fuck

so it's

hold on

241 16 minus 37.

241 16 minus 37 what is that

okay come on

that's 204

it's about this right

foreign

so I'm going to share this uh tweet

right now and let's let's all go and um

like the Tweet why don't we all do that

let's just all go and give this tweet

some attention

because yeah this is just an utter

destruction

204 16. all right you guys can clarify

it so yeah here it is

let's boost this tweet

oh my God it's so fucking late

so yeah that's like

now you guys are even equipped to wage

this battle for me because you know all

these fucking arguments right

let's but let's boost the shit out of

this where is this at 20 let's just

boost the shit out of it

and move on

let me see

ah

I destroyed two claims one

The View that standpoint epistemology

is the meaning of material class

relations

false

and Marxism false

The View that

reductionism According to which one's

the content of speech

is reduced to personal class

balls

personal claims

I destroyed three claims

there we go perfect

all right

all right

foreign

yeah it's so fucking stupid how people

don't understand what classes and

they're like oh classes that's the

aggregate of individual experiences no

it's not close class is a social

when when you are talking about

political the content the class content

of a political ideological intellectual

or even artistic position you are

talking about something

social oriented toward the associates so

it's external from individuals it's

about how we as individuals

again as replicated as a mass like

how does this position when positioned

externally

come back to actually relate to the

different segments of society

that is not the synonymous with an

individual experience that is the

ability for an external position

to either our to articulate

um

a social position

the bourgeoisie is not the universal

class the proletarian is literally the

universal class it's the class which

articulates the furthest extent of

humanity

and that's why it's the position that

allowed Mao Zedong to go down to the

countryside to the peasants

um

into lower and lower forms of mass

subjectivity outside of exclusive

institutions

so to say wokeness is revolutionary

means you're a Hitler right who wants to

weaponize these exclusive institutions

of society and impose them on everyone

instead of articulate subjectivities

outside of the institution which only

the proletarian position can do by

virtue of articulating the real

Universal position of humanity

so that's very simple

anyway guys I have to go now it's way

too late see you tomorrow and we're

gonna have the debate

with Ben Burgers tomorrow we have that

to look forward to see you guys