DEBATING REAL HATERS!

2025-08-15T02:47:04+00:00
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Spread out with with South Carolina
Alabama Mississippi
On the North Carolina
Philadelphia and Virginia
From down in Miami
We're warm in the winter
All up the middle So the West storm
In the one of
Jackson Bill Teller and handsome
Intamin Housin Highland
Be in H Town, Southside
Clove Land Daddy
I'm the man out in Dallas
Better ass tell it
Cat man I'm out of Cali with my eyes open belly
Blowing that spinning
Going down a minute
Drop six four three wheel here switch
Red light stop making drop from the bridge out
Block 4, fifth and blow your head all with it
Anything you hear that I said I'm in it Can't got for blow your head all with it. Anything hit it, I said I meant it.
You can't got the crown then spread all with it.
So you need bricks, I said I get it.
If you want to, we can supply you.
Got enough work to feed the whole time.
They won't shoot you unless you try to come around and try to stop on our ground cause we take it over said we're taking over
We're seeing
We're taking over
So we're taking over So we're taking over
Black flag
Is it
Oh
Yeah
Listen
This is what I does, yeah. This singer.
This is what I does.
I get money, A.K.A. A day I does that.
It's how I ride.
Black flag on the left, two hoes.
And ride you better.
Hey, K, I'm dead.
Get shut up like Shinez on my head.
I'm big like getting. Damn it, I'm lit it.
Callie we've been it, the big of my city.
Please low fit it, fucking them too.
The brother get brain, stupid, um,
running that come, running like water.
Rum is so hot, damn it she.
My name is on fire, you better be.
Might get shot on the porch of your fortress.
That they see it with no one with a porcelain.
I run near strip rouse, a lot of shit.
I said we take it over.
We say we take it over. Chris said we take it over I see CRECREAS
CLEE
CrICK
Let me
See it over
We're taking over We're seeing
O Yeah,
I see ass
Nick
When you see crap
Better duck
Like the Mac Out of East Pass.
Nigger what shit?
I don't get fuck out of these streets.
Y'all fuck that shit.
I want that beat.
I'm gonna tell you like a G-tone.
They'll come back quick if a nigga OD.
Casual everything around me.
I'm YSL
Versacee
You can see me in that boss TZ
Coming down sunset
Sitting on D
Feeling like Paco'll Loss on me
Fresh bandana and I'm blowing mad trees
Nigger please
I spit crack every verse the key Some the key, some say Cali, some say Cali, 12 years down and I finally
If you want that too, we can supply you, got enough work to feed the whole time, they won't shoot you unless you try to come around and try to stop on the ground
because we take it over i said we take it over
Let me take it over
We're taking over
We're taking over
We're sitting
I'm number one.
Nika came in me wrong so we got him done.
Fucking with the family, I'm gonna give him some.
Spent that condo.
He didn't run.
Sunday had a whole church sang in a song.
Why they had to send my baby home?
Fucking with some niggas that pay for long
been a G in the game now my son
don't look drunk
I am the beast
feed me rappers and feed me beats
I ain't untamed I need a leash
I'm insane I need a shrink
I like brain I need a leech
Why complain on easy streets? I don't even talk
like the Visa speak and I like my spright east of beat. And my wrist-washed your palp with the mule is cooler.
I have more juice than your jeweler. Touching that wheel bus your medulla That's a bully hole
It's not a tumor
Rare light
Real life stop your rumors
I stay on track
Like a box of plumbers
I just rock rock
Rock with Junior
I am the little big
Cooner
Because we're taking it over
When you see at a time
at a time
at a time
yeah
a time
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I'm a little out of
South Carolina
Alabama Mississippi
On the North Carolina
Philadelphia
Virginia
From down in Miami, where in the winter,
all up to Minnesota, and a storm in the winter.
Some Bill Teller, and some of the midfurtain holl at me.
Be in H-town, Southside, Covelland, Dada, I'm in Maryland,
that I'm in Maryland, Daddy, I'm in Dallas,
better ass cladlet. Cat Cat man I cal with my eyes open
Ballet
Blow that spin it
Going down bin it
Drop six four three
We'll hit switch
Red light stop
Make a drop from the bitch
You know
Block phone feel for blow your head all with it
Anything you hit
I said I'm in it
Can't got the crown
Then spread all with it Say you need bricks I said I get it Can't got the crowned just spread all with it
So you need bricks I said I get it
If you want to we can supply you
Got enough work to feed the whole time
They won't shoot you unless you try to come around and try to stop on our ground
Because we take it over
We say we take it over
Say we're taking over
so you see
black flag
reset
yeah
listen
bounce
it's what I does
I get money
8 day
eight day I does
that
that
beat me it's what I does I get money, A. Day, A. D.
It's how I ride, black flag on the left, two hoes and ride you better. Hey, K, I'm dead.
Get shut up like Shine that's on my neck.
I'm big like getting.
Damn it, I'm with it.
Gallet we get it. Biggie of of my city please no fit it fucking them too
you're breath and get brain stupid um running that come running like what
my name's so hot damn she cause my enemy on fire you better be oh might get shot on the porch of your fortress
now they see it
but no
one of a porcel
I run in
strip bouts like shit
I'm gonna
take it over
I'm
a time
that we take it over
because
we take it over
we're
crazy we take it over
real yeah a, that we take it over. Real crazy. Got a lot of time.
Let's let we take it over.
BXX, niggins
When you see crack,
better duck like the Mac out of ease pants.
Nigger what shit?
I don't get fuck, I run these streets. Y'all fuck what shit? I don't give fuck I run these streets
y'all fuck that shit, I want that beat.
I'm gonna tell you like a G-tone.
They'll come back quick if a nigga OD.
Cast rule everything around me.
I'm Y-S-L, Versacee.
You can see me in that boss T t coming down sunset sitting on d feeling like
pack all lies on me fresh band dinner and i'm blowing mad trees nigger please i spit crack every verse
some say cali some Kleeve 12 years down
And I finally
If you want
Two, we can supply you
Got enough work to feed
Your whole time
They won't shoot you
Unless you try to Come around and try to stop on the ground
because we take it over.
I said we take it over.
See it.
I said we're taking over
we're taking over
we're taking over
we're taking over
let's see in our
man dad I'm number one
nigger came in me wrong
so we got him done fucking with the family I'm gonna one. Nigger came in me wrong, so we got him done.
Fucking with the family, I'm gonna give him some.
Spent that condo. He didn't run.
Sunday had a whole church singing a song.
Why they had to send my baby home?
Fucking with some niggas that paid a loan.
Been a G in the game. Now my son on the drone.
I am the beast feed me rappers and feed me beats I ain't untamed I need a leash I ain't insane I need a shrink I love brain I need a leech why complain on easy streets
I don't even talking let the visa's speak, and I like my sprite Easter peak, and my wrist
sweatshapult, but the mule is cooler.
I have more juice than your jeweler.
Touching that wheel bus your medulla.
That's a bullet hole, it's not a tumor.
Red light, rare Real life stop your rumors
I stay on track
Like a box of blooms
I just rock rock
Rock Rock with Junior
I am the little big
Cooner
Because we take it over
One we see at a time
At a time
Gary in the club sitting in the corner.
We see you, Jerry.
Go, go, go, go, go, go.
Go shawley, it's shiver, hey.
We gonna party
Like it's your birth day
We gonna sit for parties
Like it's your birthday
And you know
We don't give my fucking
Like your birthday
You'll find me in the club
Not a full of bug
With money I got the egg
Sicking and taking drugs
I'm gonna have a sex
I ain't into making love
So come give me a hug
You can find me in the club
A bottle full of bub
Look mommy I got the ex-s up in and taking drugs
I'm gonna having sex
I ain't into making love
So come get me hug
Get in the getting rough
When I pull up out front
You see the bends on duck
When I rode 20 deeps, it's 20 nines in the club
Niggins know the fuck Dre, now they want to
show me love. When you shout like him and them
in a hush, they want to fuck.
We ain't nothing change
Hold down G's up
I see exhibit in the cut
They nigger roll that weed up
You watch how I move
You mistake before a player
Pitten I've been hit with a few shill
But I don't walk with a limb
In the hood and that day they're saying
Fitty you hot
They like me I want them to love me like they love pop.
But how old in New York,
the niggins, she tell you I'm loco.
You're playing out to put the rack game in a chunk.
So I'm for the focus man.
My money on my mind.
Got a meal out the bill and I'm still in the grind.
Now, sure you say, she's all the sister.
She's filling my staff.
She's filling my flow.
A girl from wooded to the guy and they're ready to go.
I'm in the club.
I'm full of bucks with money.
I got the egg,
I got to take the drugs.
I mean, I haven't been making love.
So come give me a hug
get in the getting rough
to find me in the club
bottle full of bug
with mommy I got there
to get in to take a drug
I'm gonna have a set time
in they're making love
so come give me a hug
if you're in the getting rough
my flow my show brought me to go that ball Get me up My show
My show brought me to go
That brought me all my fancy things
My grip, my cars
My tools, my shoes
Look, nigger
I don't came up and I ain't changed
And you should love it
Way more than you hate it. Nigger, you mad.
I thought that you'd be happy.
I made it.
I'm not cat by the bar, toasting to the good life.
You that faggot-ass nigga trying to pull me back back.
Much on get the bumping in the club.
This I don't know with my eye to bitch if she's smashed a gun.
If the roof on fire fire let the motherfucker burn
the talking about money
homie I ain't concerned
I'm gonna tell you
what banks for me
cause go ahead
switch the style up
miggins hate
to let her make
my money pile up
and we can go
upside their head
with a bottle of
bro
in the way we fucking be you can find me in up. And we can go upside the head with a bottle of bull.
In the way we fucking be.
You can find me
in the club
bottle full of
a bug with money
I got the head
sick and they
taking drugs
I mean I haven't
meant I have sex
I ain't in
making love
so come
give me a hug
and getting rough
you can find me in the club
bottle full of
boob
look money
I got the
ex
I'm gonna take
drugs
I'm gonna have
sex
I ain't into
making love
so come
get me
a hug
getting
the getting
rough
ha ha ha
don't try to
act like
you don't know
where we
be in even
me Don't try to act like you don't know where we be a nigga, nigga.
We're in the club all the time, nigga.
It's a problem. Pop off, nigga.
Che, you, go, go, go, go, go, go, go.
It's your birth day.
We're going to party like it's your birth day.
We're going to sit for a party like it's your birthday.
And you know we don't give a fucking
That's your birthday
You'll find me in the club
A bottle full of bub
Look mommy I got the egg
Suki and they take my drugs
I'm gonna have sex
I ain't into making love
So come give me a hug
You're getting rough
You can find me in the club
A bottle full of bub
Look my way I got that
Something to take the drugs
I'm into having sex
I ain't into making love
So come give me a hug
Get him to getting rough
When I pull up out front
You see the bins on duff
When I rode 20 deeps
It's 29 in the club
Niggas heard I fuck a dray
Now they wanna show me love
When you shout like him and them
And the hush, they wanna fuck
When you ain't nothing change
Hold down G's up
I see exhibit in the cut of
That weed up
Roll that weed up You watch how I move
You misset before a play
up here
been hit with a few shill
but I don't walk with a lift
in the hood
in the day they say in 50 you hot
they like me
I want them to love me like
hit up hot
but how in New York
and niggas
to tell you I'm local
we're playing
if to put the rack game
In a chunk of I'm full of focus man
My money on my mind
Got a meal out the deal and I'm still in the mind
Now, she says she's filling my staff
She's filling my flow
A girl from wooded they buy
And they're ready to go
I'm gay
I'm full of bull with money I got the egg sticky and they're ready to go I'm getting a club bottle full of bull
with money I got the head sick and they take a drug
I need to have a set time
into making love so come
give me a hoog
and get in the getting rough
you can find me in the club
bottle full of board
with money I got the head
and take a drug I need to have a set time and they're making love Brattle full of bug with money I got the head to be in the taking drugs
I need to have a sex I ain't gonna make a love so come get me a dog
Get in the getting rough
My flow, my show brought me to go that brought me all my fancy things
My trip, my cars, my clothes, my shoes look nigger i don't came up and i ain't changed
and you should love it way more than you hate that nigger you're mad i thought that you'd be happy i made it i'm not cat potter bar toastin to the good life you that faggotten ass nigger trying to pull me bad guys much yon't get the toastin to the good life You that's beggar-ass nigga trying to pull me back by
My junk is the puffin' in the club that's on
I'm with my eyes, you bitch if she's smash you gun
If the roof on fire, let the motherfucker burn
The toning about money, homie, I ain't concerned
I'm gonna tell you what banks for me cause go ahead switch the style up
biggs hate you let her make them watch the money pile up and we can go upside their head
with a bottle of bull in a way we fucking be you can find me in the club bottle's full of bug with money
i got the head sick I'm gonna take my drugs
I mean I have a sex ain't into making love
So come give me a hug
Get in the getting rough
You can find me in the club
A bottle full of bobs
With money I got the ex set me in to take the drugs
I'm gonna have a sex ain't in have a sex I ain't into making love
so come get me a hug
and getting rough
Ha ha ha ha
Don't try to act like
you don't know
where we be in a nigga
nigga me in the club all the time
niggins a problem
pop off nigga
jill me It's a problem. Pop go, go, show.
It's your birth day. We're going toawley, it's your birth day.
We're going to party like, it's your birthday.
We're going to sip a carding like, it's your birthday.
And you know we don't give a fucking, that's your birthday.
You'll call me in a club.
I'm all the full of bull, book money.
I got the head sucking and they take my drugs. I'm going to have a set time into making love, look mommy, I got the ex, suck it into taking drugs.
I'm in having sex, I ain't into making love, so come get me a hug, get in the getting rough.
You can find me in the club.
A bottle full of pub.
Look, money, I got the ex, suck you in to take the drugs.
I'm in to having sex sex I ain't into making love
so come give me a hug
and get in the getting rough
When I pull up out front
You see the bins on duff
When I rode 20 deep
It's 20 nives in the club
Niggins know the fuck
A dray now they want to show me love
When you shout like
Em and them in a huff
They want to fuck
No way ain't nothing
Change
Hold down
G's up
I see exhibit
In the cut
They nigger
Roll that weed up
Roll that weed up If you watch how I move
I'm respect
Before a play up here
Been nip with a few sheds
But I don't walk with a limb
In the hood
In the hood and that day they say in 50 you hot.
They like me.
I want them to love me like they love pop.
But holly in New York, the niggins say tell you I'm loco.
We're planning to put the rap game in a chunk on for the focus man.
My money on my mind.
Got a meal out the deal And I'm still in the grind
Now she's gonna say she's feeling my staff
She's filling my flow
A girl from where did they buy
And they're ready to go
I'm gay
I'm full of bucks with money
I got the A-Sibia and they take the drug
I mean I have respect
I ain't into making love
so come give me a hug
and get in the getting rough
you can find me in the club
bottle full of bulb
with money I got the head
tip in to take a drug
I'm gonna have a set time
and they're making love
so come give me a hug
and get in the getting girl
my flow my show
brought me to go that brought
me all my fancy things
my crib my cars my clothes
my shoes hook nigga I don't came
up and I ain't changed
and you should love it
way more than you hate
Nigger, you mad
I thought that you'd be happy
I made it
I'm the cat by the bar
Toastin' to the good life
You that's dagger
Ackin'ass nigga
Trying to pull me back guys
Much on
Get the puffin' in the club
It's on with my eyes
Bitch if she's mad she's smashed a gun
if the roof
on fire
let the motherfucker
burn
the toning about money
homie I ain't
concerned
I'm gonna tell you
with banks
for me
cause go ahead
switch the stall up
niggas
hate to let her
make them
and what the money
pal up
and we can go
upside the head
with a bottle of
bull
in the way we fucking be
you can find me
in the club
bottle full of bull
look money
I got the head
to take me
drugs
I mean I have a set
time in there
making love
so come
give me a hug
and getting a rough you can hug get in the getting rough
you can find me in the club
bottle full of bugs
look money I got the ex-s up in to
take the drugs I'm in to have a sex
I ain't in to make a love so come
give me a hug in the getting rough
ha ha ha ha
don't try to act
Like you don't know
Where we be in a nigga
nigga
We in the club all the time
niggins a problem
Pop off, nigga
Gee you
me
Yeah Go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go.
It's your birth day.
We're going to party like, it's your birth day.
We're going to sip a carding like, it's your birthday.
And you know we don't give a fuck, it's your birthday.
You'll find me in the club, a bottle full of bub, look money, I got that, so me into taking drugs, I'm gonna have a sex, I ain't into making love, so come give me a hug, you're gonna get in getting rough. You can find me in the club.
Bottle full of bub.
Look, mommy, I got the head, sick in to take the drugs.
I'm gonna having sex, I ain't into making love.
So come to give me a hug, get in the getting rough.
When I pull up out front, you see the bins on d'U.
When I go 20 deep, it's 20 nives in the club, niggins,
know the fuck, n'ray, now they wanna show me love.
When you shout like em and them in a huff, they wanna fuck.
The homie ain't nothing change, hold down, G's up.
I see exhibit in the cut of that, nigger, roll that weed up.
Roll that. You watch how I move in mistake before a play up here
Been hit with a few shelves but I don't walk with a limb
In the hood and they lay that same fit to you hot
They like me I want them to love me like they love pot
But how live in New Yorkeriggas say you I'm local
When you're playing in the back
The rap game in a chon car
I'm full of focus man
My money on my mind
Got a meal out the deal
And I'm still in the grind
Now she says she's filling my staff
She's filling my flow
A girl from where did they buy
And they're ready to go
I'm gay Well I'm in a club.
I'm full of bull, but mommy, I got the head, sticky, and they're taking drugs.
I mean, I haven't set time into making love, so come give me a hold.
Keep you in the getting rope.
You can find me in the club.
Got a full of board, bulb But mommy I got the head
Sicking and take a drug
I'm gonna have a sex
I ain't in to make a love
So come give me a hug
With you end and getting a rub
My flow, my show
Brought me to dough
That brought me
All my fancy things My crapick my cars my tools my shoes look bigger i don't rain more Oh, and yeah. and the I want to be a I'm
a little
I'm not. I'm all you know word
that's
me
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and uh On the hill On the hill
On the mountain tartary
Yeah's coming down, strong down.
Our horses flooge under tass.
In the break, we will ride throughout the country Cartier
Thank you, Sleapurit.
Thank you, Slepricer, what's going on?
Tarteria is calling me
I can hear
the mountains
valleys bring
rivers they will come
with horses
damn this shit's long and with horses damn
this shit's long
it's going
it's calling me
Rocky Mountains The
Band, what's going on?
Us Terestanee. Appreciate you, brother.
Appreciate you.
What a beautiful song.
No, no, that's some real shit sleeper cell thank you so much what's going on with the 25
um
vortex what's up bro thank you so much vortex
with the 10. I appreciate
you, brother. Australia's standing
with 5. American Step
with the 25. What's going on, bro?
What's going on,
well? Sleeper Sell, the wealthy.
American Step, the wealthy. What's going
on? My wealthy brothers and sisters. Let the spice flow.
What up y'all? I got high energy today. It's not like last time. Although I'm a little sick, I had some soda with 40 milligrams of caffeine.
And also, I didn't take a hot shower. I got energy today. I got the energy that I wanted to
bring to you Tuesday. And also also I'm not weary from travel
and also I took a nap
What's going on y'all?
We got a high energy stream today
We got a debate
We're doing confront the chairman
We got a lot of bitch-ass people
Talking a lot of shit
They're going to be stepping up to the plate
And we're going to see But first of all I'm going to be stepping up to the plate. And we're going to see.
But first of all, I'm going to tell you the community.
This is the cult, the infrared cult, okay?
First of all, as your cult leader, what cults do is they abuse. And, well, they, they punish, they punish the
cult members. And that's what I'm doing by doing this shit so late. You are being punished. Why?
Earlier today, I had the most genius genius tweet i don't i don't always say
it's genius this was fucking brilliant all right this was the smartest shit ever okay i'm gonna
actually start the space and talk about it in the space uh let's let me do
that right now let because this is a cult session you know uh hold on hold on hold on i'm just calling it debating haters start the space space has been started. Alright.
Alright.
Uh, I'm just going to keep the space open.
Alright, I'm going to get into my intro.
So, guys, for real, on some real shit.
I had the smartest tweet.
Like, it's such a nuke.
And everyone underestimate me, because what the fuck is wrong with you?
Not seeing this.
It's like when I made those bangers that go viral all the time from 2022, and only, like, now people understand and that is fucking bad right
what I said
I just nuked the entire
Judeo Bolshevism and all
the anti-Bolshevik I fucking
nuked it from orbit.
Candice Owens,
yes, Dan Bolzarian,
yes, Jake Shields. I don't care.
Eddie talked to Jake Shields and was friendly
with him. Jake Fields has not
attacked me. He's been friendly,
but I'm calling all these people out, okay?
Because I want to debate, and I haven't gotten my debate. And all of them have something in common.
And also, I will call out this disgusting woman, this disastrous surgery woman. She's a fucking disaster.
She's a walking disaster. She's a walking advertisement for the dangers of surgery itself and
plastic surgery. She is literally a, is she human? Dr. Anastasia Lupus, the fucking disaster. She looks
worse than Bridget McCrown. She looks like a fucking Neanderthalus, homo Neanderthalus, space alien, creatureoid, fucked up creature.
She looks fucked up, straight up, her face is fucked up.
And I ask Roypers and I tell them, is she a beautiful
woman? Not a single one can say she is
because she is
Frankenstein's monster. She's a disaster.
She's an absolute disaster.
Yagoda
created a
Yagoda nuked her face.
Okay.
Her entire face was in Yagoda's Goulog for 50,000 years and it still wouldn't look
as fucked up as it does.
Okay?
It looks like
all the Goulog
inmates combined.
Okay?
Smashing rocks.
If they smashed her face on all
the rocks that they smashed
with chains, it still
wouldn't be as fucked up as it looks.
Anastasia Lupus is a fucking disaster.
First of all, disgusting woman.
Disgusting.
Anyway,
they're all Gen X.
I just fucking cracked the code and nobody got it.
The minute I launched that tweet earlier today,
it should have within five minutes gotten 300 likes,
and that's very modest.
Should have gone super viral.
I'm talking 50,000 likes total.
Okay?
Because I cracked a code
that nobody else is noticing
and I have to put on
these theatrics for you to get it
because nobody fucking gets it.
Okay?
The whole thing about Bolsheviks
is Gen X. It's a gen x thing and i'll explain exactly why okay
the boomers created a slave post-war liberal mind control system they were the hippies.
They were the retard libertarian hippies that smoked pot and were like, yeah, we're fighting the man, man.
And they were like, bedtime is fascism, man.
And like, that was the boomers, right?
Stay with me right stay with me
stay with me gen x
were the same they still had these
ingrained liberal values
anti-authoritarian values
let's not even call it libertarian let's
call it anti-authoritarian right
but gen x is like the band trapped.
Back off, I'll take you on. I know, I'll take on anyone.
So Gen X likes BMX. They like extreme sports.
They like Metallica. They like banging their head extreme sports. They like Metallica.
They like banging their head on smashing it on the wall and saying, I'm free!
And they smash their head against the wall to defy the authorities.
So that's Gen X, all right?
And they love the word X.
That's why Elon Musk. And Gen X, all right? And they love the word X. That's why Elon Musk.
And Gen X are people who still believe that they're going to be in a band and tour the country and get a lot of women.
Even though they're 65 years old, they still think that this dream is going to pan out.
So that's Gen X is this extremely
cringe, 1990s
MTV, Joe Rogan Fear Factor,
extreme sports,
EA sports. It's in the game.
So they have this like anti-authoritarian bent and libertarian bent that they've inherited from the boomers that is rooted in post-war liberalism. So that's jet. Are you following me? That's Gen X. It's it's this new edgy twist on their boomer parents it's the same
foundation of the matrix mind control slave system liberalism it's the same fucking thing but they put a
fucking edgy twist on it but they're still rooted in that right
so I'll tell you what Gen X
has done the reason Gen X
is obsessed with the Bolsheviks in a
negative way like Dan Bilzeri and all
these people because they're basically
like they were raised with
like Hitler as the boogeyman like boomers right but they're basically like they were raised with like Hitler as the boogeyman
like boomers right but they're like
oh my god I learned the truth
the real Hitler was like a Jewish guy named
Yagoda and they had like leather
they were authoritarian's and they banned
creatine and monster energy
and Hitler was like a cool guy
who like skateboarded and he gave everyone
unlimited monster energy
EA sports and
Hitler was like BMX dirt biking
and stuff and
you know I'm Dan Bolzerian.
Hitler was, like, fun.
He would be, like, playing poker with me.
And, like, this Jewish Hitler guy with a Hitler mustache named Yagoda was, like, banning
all of my poker casinos in Vegas.
And, like, come on man, Jewish
Hitler is like totally banning
the monster energy. They're like totally
taking away the skateboarding. They're like totally
banning surfing. So Gen X
has this fucking obsession with
Bolshevism because it's like
a dis, it's their displaced
anti-authoritarian values
they grew up with
and they're still
clinging to that.
They haven't let go
of the post-war liberalism
but they've replaced
the Hitler boogeyman with
a Jewish Hitler, and they can
in this way they can still have the same
fucking thing that boomers do,
but they've just changed it up a little.
Like, they still presuppose
the default
of liberalism and libertarianism.
I'm just like, yo, look, I'm like Dan Balsarian.
Like, I'm just like a normal guy.
I'm like totally a normal guy, you know?
Like, I'm like, you know, I believe in just like having fun as a way of life, you know, and just like doing what you want, you know?
But like the Jewish Bolsheviks, they would like throw me in a gulag and ban creatine and stuff, and it's not cool.
Like, you see how they haven't broken with the boomer, slave, liberal system?
And the Bolsheviks are actually when you think about it
their whole stick from these
Gen X people the whole stick
is like
oh you know they teach us
Hitler was bad but before Hitler there was the Bolsheviks, and they were the authoritarian.
Yeah, and that's fucking based.
That's fucking based.
They were the first illiberal revolutionaries and the only
ones
and they were
fucking
authoritarian
and they
did build
a mighty
authoritarian
powerful
regime that
crushed
all of the
glasses
wearing
people
and that's fucking based.
And Bolsheviks are cool and based.
They wore leather jackets, and they had red armbands, and they had the aura, and they were the base ones. And the Nazis stole that drip from them.
And people think Nazis have aura, but they stole it from the Bolsheviks, who were actually the based ones.
The Bolsheviks nationalized the banks.
They put all the capitalists and gulags.
They took that shit over.
They took over the trains.
They took over everything.
They ran that shit.
And Hitler didn't nationalize anything.
He was...
Yeah, they're right.
Hitler was a fucking pussy libertarian
bitch he was a libtard Hitler was a libtard and the Bolsheviks were the true based strongmen the Bolsheviks were the regime the base real regime, the based regime.
And I'm sorry, Jake Shields,
but you are not
a based dissident
critic of the system.
You just want unlimited monster energy
distributed to you
you know
by Hitler
You still want to live this
The 1990s
MTV Joe Rogan Fear Factor
X Factor
Gen X bullshit delusion.
This is still your world.
You're still stuck in the boomer slave system.
The only force in history
that
this entire boomer slave
system was created to destroy communism and suppress communism and erase communism
lennon was the actual revolutionary of the modern times the boomers created this entire matrix
to suppress lennon's revolutionary fire and these retards think that they're based
because they're like trying to bring and gas up Hitler. They're like, Hitler is like the ultimate
boogeyman. No, Hitler is the literal twin shadow, the Jungian shadow of the fucking
boomer slave system that rules us today. But the only thing that's outside of that system is the
base the Bolsheviks
and I'm sorry but all these Gen X retards gibbering and
crying about the Bolsheviks all the time
including Candice Owens
and I'm not here to attack Candice Owens
because she is a fine woman
in every way. Well, not in every way, but in many ways.
And
but the truth is, it's a brutal truth.
And because I just saw a fucking tweet today where they keep doing it
they keep fucking saying it I keep seeing these
fucking tweets about the Bolsheviks
or you go to this you go to that
and I'm dropping a fucking nuke that I'm sick of Gen X.
Gen X needs to shut the fuck up and grow up.
The whole fantasy of the...
The Jewish...
Hey man, I'm Dan Balsarian
the Jewish
Bolsheviks
they ban
creatine from
the gulog
they ban
monster energy
man it's not cool
they were like
super not cool
they were like
authoritarian
it was like
Jewish Hitler
banning all the
extreme BMX sports.
It's just fucking anti-authoritarian bullshit from the Gen X, and they can't let go of it.
And guess what?
The next generation?
And then you have millennials who are still on the anti-authoritarian shit, right?
But their whole thing is like democratic socialism, you know, or national.
So let me tell you, can I, I can break down
the generation
so fucking seamlessly,
okay?
Millennials are national socialism
and democratic socialism.
Millennials are like,
well,
you know,
we should have some authority
like with health care and stuff.
And like, they could either be the
actual, like, neo-Nazi skinheads,
or they can be, like, the Democratic
DSA socialist, right? It's the same
shit.
It's just, like, one is politically
incorrect, and the other one is like super um uh like respectable right
and then gen z is yearning for authority they're yearning for like some kind of actual regime
like gen z is kind of regime-pilled,
and that, yeah, they channel that through the Hitler myth,
which is total bullshit, but that's how they're doing it.
But a lot of them, you know, are regime-pilled in the correct way, the communist way, right?
So we need to, but Gen Z is not even the solution. You got to keep accelerating this generational
revolution so far that every trace of the boomer slave system is eradicated so comprehensively and so thoroughly that none of it survives.
And that's basically, and this is genius.
What I'm telling you right now is actual pure genius.
Once you understand that the Judeo-Bolshevik thing is a Gen X retard mental rot, brain rot,
it's Gen X brain rot, that's what it is.
I've cracked a code code and I feel like nobody
appreciates the brilliance.
And before anyone says anything,
I spent two years
arguing rationally about this
with statistics and facts and
data and they don't give
a fuck. So clearly it's some kind of
like deeply ingrained
form of retardation that has
no basis in fact
or rationality
and it is a psychological
issue of Gen X and I just
cracked the code and it's brilliant
everyone should take note
it's totally
it makes total sense when you think about it.
Like, nobody whose regime-pilled would give a fuck about Yagoda.
Oh, Yagoda is so horrible.
He, like, killed 80 trillion people.
It's like nobody regime-pilled is spooked by this, like like attempt to make Bolsheviks the boogeyman.
And we are not, see, we are the real anti-fascists because we defeat fascism.
Blood, what's going on? We actually defeat fascism. Blood, what's going on?
We actually defeat fascism effectively
because we create regimes stronger,
more based, and more powerful than fascist regimes.
Fascist regimes are very weak and brittle,
and that's why Mussolini was upside down like a bitch
That's the truth that's why Hitler killed himself when he was crying and he said he took a black pill he said it's so over and then he killed himself
And Stalin, in that
moment, was a
Chad, Jack,
and he
won.
And that's our
anti-fascism
is based in
strength and
more powerful
regimes.
It's based in a and more powerful regimes.
It's based in a more powerful regime pill.
It's based in a more comprehensive refutation of boomerism and post-war liberalism than neo-Nazism is.
Neonazism is still based in post-war liberalism.
It's just anarchism.
You understand?
All neo-Nazism is, is an anarchistic response to post-war liberalism, which is trying to just be the opposite of what it is.
But by just trying to be the opposite,
you're still caught in the dialectic.
We're the only ones that break out of the prison system.
We are the Bolsheviks.
We are on horseback.
And they say it's the Judeo-Bosovics.
It's actually the Tatar Bolsheviks.
We're on horseback.
We are Mongols. And we are
here to assert authority
while we wear sunglasses
so you can't see our eyes.
And why can't you see our eyes? Because we're not looking at
you, bitch. Our eyes on the prize.
Not your dumb bitch ass.
And we are banning...
We are going to do a prohibition on Monster Energy.
It's going to be like the 20s in the U.S.
Where we're going to be chasing down people on horses.
We're going to be chasing Gen X people on horseback
who are trying to smuggle monster energy across the border.
And that will be the regime and it will be enforced
and there's nothing they can do.
MV, what's going on?
And there's nothing anyone can do, actually.
It's going to be so bad and it's going to be so unfree, and it will be the regime.
Anyway, let's bring on this person named John.
Also, the DSA and Black Redguard.
Can I reaffirm something?
The DSA is a vestige of boomer anti-communism.
That's literally what it is. It is foundationally anti-communist.
Like the whole point was, we're the, we're the, I'm Michael Harrington. I don't like the Soviet Union and the
actual communist states. So I'm going to create the democratic socialism, which is the total opposite,
and it's still rooted in anti-communist Cold War mythology.
And that's structurally and systemically the foundation of DSA.
It is tainted. I love how these libtards are like
they're like
it's so funny.
The USA is tainted by
the founding fathers, but the DSA
is not tainted by Michael Harrington.
Oh, you're a cracker
settler. The USA is tainted by the cracker, cracker
settler passed, and it must be dismantled, and there's no possibility of redeeming it.
And it's an entire fucking country with 330 million people, right?
But then you point
to the origins of the DSA as like a
CIA anti-communist
outfit that was designed to fucking
totally reject Leninism.
They're like, no, we can
reform it, we can change it. Don't worry. It doesn't matter.
It's like, how crazy is that? How insane is that?
Isn't that funny?
Let's bring on this person named John, who's a philosopher.
Is this Jerry?
Are you Jerry?
Are you Jerry?
Are you Jerry?
Are you Jerry? Are you talking to me?
Yes.
No, I'm not Jerry. I don't know who Jerry is.
Oh, Jerry's in the club, huh?
Jerry's in the club, huh? Jerry's in the club.
We'll go ahead.
Speak.
Yeah, you're a, you're a communist,
is that right? That's correct.
Defending communism here? Okay.
My main critique of communism if you're debating it
is well are you well what kind of communist are you exactly go ahead the one that the one that puts everyone in jail
are you the one that supports open borders
what are you talking about
talking about?
Talking about Marxism?
Am I a... Hold on.
You mean the communists
that would literally shoot people
for crossing the border
even leaving the country
in East Germany?
No, I'm talking about the open border communists.
Are you that or?
They're not, what do you mean open border communists?
I've never heard of that.
Can you explain that to me?
I literally am an East german border guard who got
transported into 2025 and i don't know what you're can you explain what you're talking about
because that doesn't make any sense to me i'm an east german border guard that was transported
here and i've never heard of an open borders
communists. Please explain it to me.
Explain it to me, please. I'm very
intriguing. Yeah, so I'm talking about Marxism.
Huh?
Marxism?
I'm sorry, but I have friends in Hungary and in Czechoslovakia and Poland and we don't, we lock those borders down and we patrol them with dogs and guns.
So I don't know what you're talking about.
Yeah, I'm talking about the Communist
manifesto where it said...
I was taught that in
primary school, and it
said class struggles national inform, and it
says we must seize power of the
state. And
you know, I don't, so I don't don't, you know, we love having our international brotherhood.
I mean, I love my Hungarian friends and Poles and Czech Slovaks and Russians.
And we're all one big happy family.
But, and we, you know, we have each other's back,
but we don't just have our borders open.
That's ridiculous.
What are you talking about?
I'm talking about Marxism.
Yeah, I'm an East German border guard.
I was raised with Marxism my whole life.
I was taught Marxism in elementary school, like when I was five years old.
What are you talking?
What you're talking about makes no sense to me.
Can you explain?
Yeah, so in the Communist Manifesto, Marx advocates for open borders.
Yeah, I was, no, he, what? I was taught, I was taught the
communist manifesto from a young age, okay? My whole life, I was taught it for every level of school.
And, uh, you know, I mean, he's German border, and nowhere in the teaching.
I've read it many times.
Nowhere does it say we're going to open the borders, all right?
I think it does, actually.
I think it does.
Okay, so you know better than not only me, but... actually. I think it does.
Okay, so you know better than not only me,
but all of my communist teachers,
all of my communist institutions,
my entire communist state,
every other communist state in the Warsaw Pact,
and even the communist states that aren't in the Warsaw Pact
like Albania and China that are hostile
to us, and you know
more than the entire communist world. Your interpretation is the
correct one.
So what's the point even?
What's the point of your interpretation if it contradicts all living communist experience
i can get you the quote from the what do you mean a quote you're talking about 25% of the fucking world living under these regimes and your fucking quote means something. What do you talk? You sound insane. It's insanity. It's like you have this interpretation of the communist manifesto that everyone got wrong from all of history, but you got it right because you learned about it 90 days ago and you know the truth.
90 days ago, he says. All right, let me pull up the quote. Let me pull up the communist manifesto quo. So.
So. by the way this is what black redguard has accomplished this is the fruit of his work
teaching random fucking people uh This is the fruit of his work.
Teaching random fucking people nonsense.
In contradiction to all communist experience throughout all of history, this is apparently the accepted.
This is what people think communism is. can we go back to the days where people
were like oh communism is like when Stalin
killed 5 trillion people
because that was that's like much more
close to the truth than this
like Zoran
I don't know what the fuck this is.
But they're like, they're basically now agreeing with Trots.
The right wing is officially endorsing Trotskyism.
And they're like, yeah, Trotsky was right.
It wasn't real.
Real communism has never been tried.
Real communism is like Black Redguard and hasan piker
okay where's the quote it's in section two i'm trying to find it right now me too i'm also trying to find it why don't you ask grok
hold on be patient
if you want to drop me I can come back up
okay I'll I'm going to bring someone else on
while you're waiting for it.
Jacob Frank, this guy's the schizzo.
Jacob Frank, are you Gen X?
Are you Gen X?
Are you Gen X?
Hey, yo, no.
What are you?
Millennial?
I'm millennial, yeah.
But are you close to Gen X?
No, I don't think so
How old are you?
36
You're pretty close
Oh yeah, Gen X
Yeah, yeah
You're Gen X?
No, no, I'm close to gen x i'm thirty six
anyway go ahead
please
go ahead every time
every time
well uh
see I'm a hater so I got to be a hater
here um so you're you're a free
mason
you're a
what do you mean
you are a free mason?
I am a freemason okay no actually and actually i'm a freemason
hater but uh you are part of the sarong brotherhood yeah um you're a kamal respecter Who Mustafa Kamal?
Otterk?
That's the name.
Do you respect
him? What's the what's the what it you respect do you respect him
what's the
what's the connection
to the sarmoong brotherhood
we've never
we he was never in our mountains
we've never seen him
I like him
because he when he was fighting Greece
he had the sword of tamerlang so I like him he when he was fighting Greece, he had the sword of Tamerlang, so I like him.
He carried around Timor's sword.
I like that.
Oh, okay.
Do you have any other reasons to respect him?
And the connection is Sufi Islam.
Okay, I found the call.
I like him for, I like him
because when he was fighting Greece, he had the sword
of timor, and I like
when he fought the British, and that's it.
So, right here
in section 2, proletarian communists.
Okay. The communists
are further reproached with desiring to abolish countries and nationality.
The working men have no country.
We cannot take from them what they do not have, or what they have not, rather,
rather, since the proletariat must first of all
acquire political supremacy
must rise to be the leading
class of the nation must constitute
itself the nation it is
so far itself national
though not in the bourgeois sense of the word so when he says
the communists are further
opposed. So you just read a quote that
contradicts what you just said. He just said
that the proletariat must become the nation
but not in the bourgeois sense
and it must be national and form
and it must take control of the nation. And that's
exactly what happened in history
so what's the issue sir
the issue is the quote the communists
are further reproach with
they are they're basically saying people like you
okay this is can I can I tell you
what he said since you don't understand it he said
a guy named John comes up to
us this, you communists want to abolish the nation. And Marx is saying, hey, for all these
workers and proletarians, their nation's already taken from them. They have nothing. And he's
actually going further. And he's saying, and actually we're the
one saying the first thing we need to do is take the nation back as workers. So that's literally what
he said. So what's the issue? And you know the best part of my interpretation
we don't have to argue about it because it's what happened in history
so there you go
uh anyway jacob jacob frank
please continue sir
the name's jacob
all right whatever oh no i was uh so you The name's Jacob. All right, whatever.
Oh, no.
So you're only,
your only respect of
Mustafa Kamal Ataturk
is he had some kind of sword
and he fought the British.
And Greece with
that sword. With that sword.
Well, no,
I was just going to bring up, um, like
Laurian cobblism and the Sufi.
Yeah, I don't care about any of that.
I mean, well, maybe.
You don't care about it, but maybe.
But at the same time, if you were...
I like the sword. Do they support the sword?
I don't know about the sword, do they support
Tamerlang and Genghis Khan? I support
them fully.
I'll literally jump out of an airplane with a parachute and the whole flag of the Freemason, Kabbalah, Sufi order.
As long as there's a Genghis Khan and Tamerlanglang if they have anything to do with it
I'm for it because I'm part of that lineage and that's what I support
I'd be but can I say this
I think you try to be funny
I'm not trying to be funny I'm not trying to be funny
I think you're funny well that's your business I'm not trying to be funny I think you're funny
well that's your business
I'm dead serious
well I mean I can be dead serious
too but I'm just saying I think
you know what I want to know what I think
I think you try to obfuscate.
With comedy, you're doing a whole comedy routine with this...
What is funny about this?
Do you think Tamerlang is funny?
I don't know about that, but I've just imagined... What's funny about this? Do you think Tamerlang is funny?
I don't know about that, but I've just imagined... Well, you think it's funny?
You think him burning cities to the ground is funny?
It's not funny. It's serious.
And we're going to do it again.
I don't know who that is.
Well, you should, because he's coming back.
He said, when my...
He says, when I return, the world will tremble, and that's happening.
I don't think that's true.
Yes, it is.
I think the world is trembling.
Maybe he is coming back through you.
Are you like a reincarnation of him?
Yes.
Let's go.
So what's the issue?
Well, I mean, you want to get serious now?
Yeah. Okay, why did uh why did the ottoman empire join
world war one and does it have do the pashes have anything to do with the Sabotans What's
Where does Gagas Khan stand on this?
I don't know about Genghis Khan.
Then you don't know anything.
Then you don't, then nothing matters if you don't know that.
Well, I mean, can I come back?
I'm going to read up on Genghis Kong.
I'm going to come back.
Then do so.
Then do so.
All right.
Until then.
There you go.
I accept your surrender.
No, wait.
No, sir, you surrender. You your surrender. No, wait. I'm conceding.
No, sir, you surrendered.
You totally surrendered.
I'm, yeah, I'm cordially,
cordially conceding.
This is total defeat and conquest.
You're now a tributary
vassal and you pay tribute to me.
I am the con and you are a subordinate.
Can I bring up a different subject?
Can I throw a Hail Mary?
Hell Mary at you?
As my tributary, yes.
Because the tributaries have these
perks. They can ask another question.
Go ahead.
What do you think of the Red Symphony?
What are the reasons why you think
is real or it wouldn't be real?
The Red Symphony?
Yeah, the Christian Rukovsky interrogation.
The what?
The Christian Rukovsky interrogation.
I don't know what the fuck that is.
Are you serious?
No, I don't.
You don't know anything.
Are you dead serious?
I only know about things that matter.
I don't know about dumb shit.
That doesn't matter.
Uh, well... things that matter. I don't know about dumb shit that doesn't matter. Well,
how do you not know this? This is
insane. Because it's probably
stupid and irrelevant to Genghis Khan
and Tamerlang.
It has nothing to do with
Eurasian nomadic conquest. It has nothing to do with your Asian nomadic conquest.
It has nothing to do with those.
Hold on a second.
I'm the hater.
I'm the one that can bring up
the subjects.
Whatever you're talking about
if...
Whatever interrogation,
imagine Mongols besieging that city where the interrogation is happening and just burning it all to the ground how did when do we does it matter anymore does the interrogation matter everyone's fleeing and running and screaming so nothing you're saying matters. No, we're well...
No, yeah, it doesn't. It really doesn't.
We're talking right now.
How are Mongols going to defeat
anything? The NSA
listens to all of us.
The NSA can't run from horses.
They can't run faster than horses.
I mean, I like you because I feel like my ancestors rode horses, so I'm on your side now.
So what's the issue?
The issue is you're a communist and you're a Stalinist and you don't understand the red sin and the Christian...
Based?
Based?
Based? Based?
Very base, sir.
Very based, sir.
Very based.
Yeah, I'm turning red right now.
So what's the issue? Well, it's another subject.
Are you still a MAGA communist?
Are you a Trump supporter still?
I never supported Trump.
Yes, you did.
Then what is MAGA?
It's the American Mongols.
Bro, I'm going to re-up on this and come back.
You should.
Try reading a book before challenging the con.
It's ridiculous.
Wait, what, who's the con?
Me.
Are you?
You are the con.
You're the con artist?
No, I'm the con. You're the con artist? No, I'm the con.
Have you had, um, good detractors in here?
No.
Good haters?
No.
Am I the best hater? No. Good haters? No. Am I the best hater?
No.
Do you...
Am I the second best?
Flacco!
You're all equally useless.
Do you watch Kill Tony?
No. I don't know what that is.
You don't know who Tony Hinchcliffe is?
It's the biggest comedy show to date.
I don't know what stupid people do or watch.
I don't know any of this nonsense. I don't want to know about a guy named Tony. I don't know what stupid people do or watch. I don't know any of this nonsense.
I don't want to know about a guy named Tony.
I don't want to fucking hear names that don't involve conquest.
Well, I would say I'm not stupid, but at the same time like um do you think uh you're gonna have any
a semblance of power in america in the next five years or ten years or any yes well can you give me
like a a guesstimate of the time the time frame on your power five years
all right um would you bet on that i won't have i won't control the entire nation but i'll control
some of it.
In what way?
Rocky Mountains.
Keep watch.
You are a funny troll.
Keep watch. I'm gonna go, watch no I'm going to go read a book though
I got some books to read
and I'm going to come back
keep watch on the Rocky Mountains
hey
as long as you keep watch on Jacob
Frank okay
there's people training in the Rocky Mountains as we as long as you keep watch on Jacob Frank, okay?
There's people training in the Rocky Mountains as we speak right now.
Are those the ones starting fires
like in Canada? Are they affiliated with
those? No.
Antifa people at all?
Nope, they're doing push-ups right now,
and they're training and hiking and climbing mountains.
And they're hunting, and they're,
they're, uh,
they're, uh,
they're becoming one with the wilderness.
Wait, a second
did um
do you know Anthony
Kumia and um
what's his name
Gavin McKinnis are
I yeah I heard of
Gavin McKinness the guy who made the proud voice
I want to say they just did a YouTube channel on the heard of Gavin McKinness, the guy who made the proud voice.
I want to say they just did a YouTube channel on the communist
little
empire they're building there.
I've never heard of it so it doesn't exist.
Oh I've never heard of it so it doesn't exist. Oh, well, that's terrific.
Only things that are brought to my attention matter, and that hasn't, so it doesn't matter.
I mean, you sound like a serious guy, and I that. So I hope you can remember me, Jacob Frank, the guy that is going to tell you you are wrong.
You're wrong about communist.
You're wrong about Moses Hess and who Carl...
I'm right about everything.
I'm right about everything and you have lost and you've surrendered.
Oh yeah, I forgot about that. My bad. I'm lost.
You've surrendered and now you're a tributary vessel.
We're bringing on
regime jester.
Speak, jester.
Entertain me.
You claim to be a jester.
So let's see.
I am the regime.
I got a question for you.
Go ahead.
So if the HCP is so good um why has it been banned in 109 countries
why have we been banned in 109 countries yes because they're all ruled by boomers
that's a good answer Because they're all ruled by boomers.
That's a good answer.
Damn it.
He left.
It's true.
The guy named Jeff.
Go ahead, Jeff.
Go ahead, Jeff.
Oh, he just disconnected.
I need someone to help me co-host.
I'll have Sewell do it.
Invite Seul to co-host because there's people I probably can't see.
It says three requests, and I can you tell me who's requesting Go ahead, Sewell. So sorry, not go ahead.
Can you tell me who's requesting?
Yeah, give me a moment.
We got slime.
I'm pretty sure he's been up here.
We got some dude named Blumbo and then we got
Isaac Fletcher
I can't really
discern
what these people are
bring on
bring on anyone but
slime who was here before
okay I want to bring up
Isaac Okay, I want to bring up Isaac.
Go ahead.
Yeah, what's up?
The blue sky. do i have to
debate you or can i like ask you questions
can ask me one question
all right
i was going to ask um
in like in a communist system
and stuff like that do like the people who have like the hardest jobs do they make the most money or do you still have like
Like do you know I you know like in our modern system like you'll have like celebrities who are like millionaires and stuff like in our modern system, like you'll have like celebrities who are like
millionaires and stuff, like in the communist system
with like the hardest jobs,
would they make like the most money and stuff like that?
No, there would be no money.
Okay.
They just have the most status.
They don't need money.
Money's for broke people, by the way.
You know Snoop Dog calls Xbox,
and he says,
just give me the latest Xbox.
You didn't even pay for it.
If you have status, you don't even need money.
People who have status,
they walk into the club
and they get everything
for free. And Jerry, when he walks in the club,
he fucking has to pay all of his student debt out
just to get doorway, just to get in the door.
It goes toward his student debt.
And he has to sit in the corner.
And he gets upcharged on everything.
That's what happens to broke people.
People who actually have status are beyond money.
They've transcended money itself.
So with like the workers and the people who do like the hardest shit,
they would have the most status in society?
Yeah. Just like this, it's staccanovism it'd be like the stokanovs in the stalinist ussr it'd be it'd be similar to a um it would be like an aristocracy they would walk with fur coats
and look down on all the people that don't work with their hands and hard labor all the people
that are pencil pushers would bow to them and they would walk with fur coats and they would just walk
upright and everyone would get out of the
way.
You also need like
intellectuals though
and like scientists and like people
who are really good with their mind and stuff too
would they have status?
If they're like Lysenko, yes.
If they're actually in the fields doing stuff and they're like their hands on and they're actually like, they're actually putting in work, then yes.
But if they're just sitting around farting all day wearing work, then yes. But if they're just sitting around
farting all day, wearing glasses, then no.
All right. Thank you.
That was my questions.
No problem.
All right, Sewell, who's next?
All right.
I think this Rousse guy's furry, he, him, has been here before.
I don't quite recall.
What about the guy with the funny name?
Blumbo let's let me look at his profile picture
Just bring them just bring them up
I've never heard of them
Hello hello Uh yeah never heard of them.
Hello, hello?
Yeah.
Sorry, I had a question.
Why doesn't the ACP support neo pronouns.
What?
Sorry, I'm just a...
Why doesn't the ACP support neo pronouns?
Where are those?
It's the highest stage
of pronouns.
Sorry, I have a cough.
Yeah, I'm a
you know, I'm a, I'm a,
I'm a, I'm a paratrooper from
communist Hungary, and I got, I'm on a time machine, and I came to 2025.
Can you explain to me what neo-pronouns are?
No.
He left.
Couldn't explain it.
All right, I'll bring up Roger.
It's the only other guy besides slime, so...
Sure, bring him up. Can you hear me?
Yeah.
Okay.
So I don't know.
They asked me to come on here for some reason because they got mad at me for saying that you guys were transphobic and that you favor a small business
I don't know what am I doing here
see what I mean
I mean are you want to be a Republican
or not? That's not a left thing to Want to be a Republican or not?
That's not a left thing to say
You're a Republican
That's how you start a conversation
Sorry
I mean, are you 12?
Are you 12 years old?
How am I a Republican?
You literally started the conversation by using the R word.
You mean?
Instead of dealing with, see see see what i mean
what i mean what's wrong with the word retarded
it's in the dictionary
it's no longer used
you're not being sensitive to people and besides
that that's not exactly how you that's not how you have a longer use or not being sensitive to people and besides that
that's not exactly how you that's
not how you have a conversation man
that's not grow
up
I think it's retarded what you accused us of
oh well that's great
oh that's wonderful.
Doesn't tell me anything.
Doesn't answer anything.
Well, it's just wrong.
Look at the, you got to,
it's not wrong.
It's not wrong.
It's not wrong.
It's not wrong.
You're pro-small business.
No, you said we favor small businesses.
We're not any more pro small business than Mao was.
How about that?
So how do we favor them?
We have the same stance Mao did.
Was Mao bad?
If you think Mao was bad, we can talk about that.
I don't know what's bad about Mao. That's not the point.
The point is you favor small businesses. That's the petite bourgeoisie.
Did Mao favor that? I don't know what Mao did. I'm saying what you are doing.
You are supporting the petite bourgeois. what Mao did. Yes or no.
Yes or no. Are you
against the petite bourgeoisie or not?
In the same way Mao was, yes.
No, you're not.
Why? If you don't know anything about Mao,
why are you using Marxist verbiage? You don't know anything about Mao, why are you using Marxist verbiage?
You don't know anything about Marxist history.
Because you are supportive of the Petit Bourgeoisie.
That's why you called yourself a MAGA-C-Contin.
That's why you called yourself a mega-communist.
Because you are MAGA.
You are Republicans.
What is the conceptual validity of the term petite bourgeoisie outside of Marxism?
What's the conceptual validity?
No, it doesn't have to be one outside.
It doesn't have to be one outside of Marxism.
You're simply saying that because you don't, because you're saying, is it within Marxism. You're simply saying that because... Is it within Marxism?
You're suggesting...
You're suggesting
that there's a difference
between global capital
because they have capital
and the petite bourgeoisie
because they function at a different level
because maybe they're not as rich because maybe they're not as rich,
maybe they're connected to global capitalism,
but they're in business,
and somehow you think that makes them better.
But it doesn't because they're still bosses.
But according to Lenin,
it does make them potential strategic allies
against monopoly
capital.
But you are
supportive of them. It doesn't matter
whether you think they're an ally tactically.
You can still condemn them
and still try to use them, but you don't do that.
You're supportive of them.
What would that look like in material practice of quote unquote condemning them?
That would look like by actually saying to people, hey, we're against what happened on January 6th because that was a movement of business people who came out on behalf of a billionaire.
And we're not poor, but...
What do you mean January 6th? What are you talking about?
You're saying the petite...
You're saying small business owners.
Business owners, yes. small business owners came out
on behalf of a billionaire
that was wrong.
That's one thing
you could say.
Whoever came out
on January 6
was representing people
that were overwhelmingly
working class
and did not own
small businesses.
No, no, they weren't.
They were business owners.
Where's the proof?
What do you mean?
Where's the proof?
That's what actually happened.
I'm asking you what your evidence is.
Every single fucking time I give you guys proof you guys ignore you I can show you
there's a whole fucking thread about this man
there's a whole thread where I was
that's why I'm here because I did a whole
thread and people got angry
do you want to look at the data do you want to look at the
statistics for the 24 elections
about who, what classes
The people that came out, came out on fucking planes, has been late or whatever your fucking name is.
Aren't you going to deal with reality?
They didn't get there because they're poor.
They had money to travel to Washington, D.C.
For Christ's sakes, man.
So all that shows is that people who have
money can travel and
drop what their jobs are doing that. That's fine, but
this should also apply... No, that's not fine.
You're going to condemn it. But what fine. You're going to condemn it.
But what about...
You're going to condemn it if you're going to be on the left.
That's not fucking fine.
Okay, what about this?
What about all the people who flew to DSA's convention or to...
No, no, no.
I don't get.
I'm not part of the DSA.
Fuck the DSA. Fuck the DSA, fuck the DSA, fuck the Democrats, fuck the DSA.
In any scenario, in any scenario where people are congregating, by flying from-
It doesn't fucking matter!
Can you listen to the reason?
Why are you screaming? Why are the reason? Why are you screaming?
Why are you screaming?
In any scenario?
Because you keep coming up.
You're trying to dash doubt me.
Are you being?
Like you do everybody else.
And then all these other people fall in like fucking Ben Shapiro's fans and make me come here
and I'm fucking sick of it.
Do you understand me?
I'm fucking sick of you.
I saw your video on abortion.
Would you like me to talk slowly?
I saw your video on abortion.
Your anti-choice.
Your fans are anti-trans.
I want to talk about the Petit Bouz-Wazzi first,
because I take these very seriously, sir.
So, whenever there's a case that
people can congregate in an area
and they have to fly from their an area and they have to fly
from their home state and they have to drop
they're doing the job. You're going to find a disproportionate
representation of people that are more
than wealthy on average. But that doesn't
necessarily mean that the cause that they're
congregating for
is representative of that class. It just means that the cause that they're congregating for is
representative of that class. It just means
that the people that were able to congregate
and support for it.
In this case, it was Trump supporters,
but most Trump supporters...
Exactly. A billionaire.
A billionaire. Sure, but most Trump supporters
are not actually small business owners.
Yeah, I know.
People make mistakes through the propaganda, et cetera.
But this is, I'm not talking about, I'm not talking about Trump voters.
You said that we are
talking about these people involved
in January 6th, not the run of the mill
people who are voting on a desperation
because the Democrats won't give them
anything. That's a completely different thing.
What about the people that riot when Trump won in
2016? What was their class background? What about the people that riot when Trump won in 2016?
What was their class background?
What about them?
What was their class background?
Oh, a lot of them were probably upper, upper class, middle class.
There you go.
So you support them?
No, I don't support.
I didn't go on the vagina hat thing.
I don't support Democrats that only react when there's a Republican in the White House.
Why does January 6 even matter?
Because you guys are Republicans.
You guys are conservatives.
I just don't care.
And you're fucking
in a comb. And I'm fucking
stick of the backwards fucking shit.
Hold on. What's so bad?
All you do is 20th century
horse shit and you don't treat
you need to treat women with respect. You need to be
pro-choice. You need to treat people with respect. You need to be pro-choice you need to treat people
with respect you need to be pro-LGBQ
plus you need to
fucking stop this fucking bro
bro bro bro bro bro
you fucking suck ass everybody
knows it
well what was so bad about January 6th You fucking suck ass. Everybody fucking knows it.
Well, what was so bad about January 6th?
I already explained that.
No, but like, what happened that was so bad?
People revolted not for what was good,
but these people who were these people came out, they came out in support of a billionaire.
And it wasn't funny?
What do you mean? It was funny to you?
Yeah.
Okay, we're done. What do you mean? We're Okay, we're done.
What do you mean?
We're done.
We're done.
I can't find it funny.
We're done.
The guy with the...
Yeah, I find it funny.
No, I find it funny.
I find it funny.
You know what I find funny is the thought of you dropping your pants and fucking like a penguin, okay?
We're done.
What's so wrong about what happened that, like, offended you?
Why he left?
Why is he crashing out over January 6th?
I don't even get it.
I couldn't, I could tell you guys, I don't even get it. I couldn't
I could tell you guys I don't even understand that guy's
like political outlook he's like fuck
the DSA so apparent
is he a Maoist or something? Why would a Maoist
care about January 6?
And he
said up fucking a penguin
bro i tried to reason with him
just so nobody could say i screamed at him i don't understand
all right uh jeffay go ahead
oh he's an anarchist.
Even an anarchist.
Why would an anarchist care about January 6th?
It didn't even make sense.
Like, maybe you wouldn't support it, but you wouldn't, like, be, like, upset about it.
You'd be, like, who cares?
It's whatever, right?
Was that, or was that
the Trotskyite guy who threatens to fight me
sometimes, but never shows up?
Was that him and his alt?
Maybe we're just going to say that was him,
because he never shows up anyway
we don't know what he sounds like
you know what I'm talking about that one guy who claims he's gonna
oh we're gonna fight we're gonna do this he never does anything
he doesn't even show his voice
that was him right
who else could it be
he was so angry for no reason That was him, right? Who else could it be?
He was so angry for no reason.
Anyway, Jeff, go ahead, Jeff.
Yeah, I just wanted to ask about your current political situation and stance on the relationship with America and Israel. Who do you think is controlling who?
Can I say neither I mean there has to be somewhat
power in the relationship
I think that there's a force that's controlling both
but okay I could say at superficially I think that there's a force that's controlling both.
But, okay, I could say superficially, like, gun to my head, I'd say
Israel is controlling.
But I'd say that, you know,
if we're talking about America is our
like formal system our like formal
system, like formal politics,
like yeah, Israel just bribes off the politicians
and gives them money and blackmills them and shit.
So like it's super obvious.
But then when you talk about like the CIA you talk about this like deep
state and this like bigger like system this bigger power i think that actually controls both um
i don't know the answer you america huh controls both. So then it would be America.
Huh?
So then it would be America that controls Israel.
Sure.
I mean, if we're talking about America, like the American Empire, then yeah.
But if we're talking about America, like, the American Republic, then yeah. But if we're talking about America, like,
the American Republic, then no.
Okay, yeah.
And then, like, what is your plan for
actually winning change
and, like,
trying to fight this with DACP.
Um, our plan is to basically
um
our plan is to
you know, our plan is to organize ourselves into a formidable force within society that commands respect, that is a source of leadership and authority for many
that serves the people,
serves communities,
builds itself up
as a power
and a very influential force.
And, you know,
when shit hits the fan,
we are going to be one of the big players that know frankly that's the idea that's the idea okay i'm gonna go into something else, but I think it would get you into trouble, so I'm not gonna go into it.
No, I mean, we're not doing anything illegal. We're just not stupid. We'd all just go to jail jail I would want to do that yeah so let's not talk about
a recent leader and eleven on his possibly but yeah take care I didn't even catch what he said Take care.
I didn't even catch what he said.
Sewell, is there anyone else?
We got slime, we got Isaac who just spoke,
and then we got like a mouse,
like a Gonzalo mouse. Bring the Gonzalo.
All right, let's bring him up.
Go ahead.
I support Gonzalo and I was the who has a C.E.C.
What I'll do this is basically going on.
I can't.
You cut out a lot.
Can you, sorry. Can you repeat that? You cut out a lot. Can you...
Sorry, can you repeat that?
You cut out big time.
Sorry.
Sorry, going off to what the last guy said,
why does the...
I...
I'm sorry.
Dude, bro, I'm sorry.
Dude, bros in the jungle
with the Shining Path or something.
Why is your voice being so distorted?
Like, I can't hear anything.
Is,
is something wrong? I can't hear anything. Is something wrong?
I can go back at another time.
But all I want to say was...
Huh?
Bro, you are...
It's like your voice is not...
It's like you're...
It's like, you know, those...
You know, like, in The Exorcist, when they're, like, speaking in tongues and shit, that's what it sounds like.
Sorry, I'm in the mountains of Peru. and tongues and shit. That's what it sounds like. Sorry.
I'm in the mountains of Peru. I'll try
one more time. If it's not coming
through, I'll come back.
All right. Later.
So, basically,
about Israel,
why doesn't the ACP
the Jews
what
what the Jews
what the Jews I think I
What the fuck What the fuck
what the fuck
it's a literal gin
that was a gin
what is that
what's going on
RTSG I will make a co-host of course uh hold on let me check my phone.
Flacco with the 10.
Flacco with the 10.
We're adding it to the war chest.
Thank you, Flacko.
Guys, we're raising funds for Jerry's student debt.
He's at the club right now in the corner crying.
We need to raise a lot of funds.
So raise, send subscriptions,
because I'm going to roll up to the club where Jerry's at.
I'm going to go band for band.
I'm going to outballer him him and we will see where the real
wealth is okay we're crowdsourcing we're gonna crowdsource going band for band
exposing him as a brokey
that's what we're doing
show the power of this army
uh
there we there we go
there we go flaco there we go
there we go there we go there we go yo what we go. There we go.
Yo, what's up? Uh, who's, bring, bring other people on.
Okay, I'm bringing up the one other person that's not slang or Isaac.
All right, Wooler. What's going on wooler What's going on? Is this what's talking about?
Marxism, a dead ideology?
What?
Isn't Marxism a dead ideology?
No.
I mean, Stalinism, Maoism. Those haven't disappeared?
No, they won.
Which country? China and Russia. which which country
China and Russia
and North Korea
and every base nation on earth
since what is Russia communist
it's not but it's all it's only survived
because of that it's that legacy it's only survived because of that.
It's that legacy. It's the only thing keeping it together.
I mean, Russia's embracing Orthodox Christianity now.
Yeah, the church Stalin revived. That one.
Not the one from the Tsar, the Stalin one.
I mean, but communism is atheistic, inherently.
Only when people start larping.
Didn't Lenin Didn't when...
Only when...
...and the church?
Only when there's religious larp...
Are harsh actions necessary.
But if people can just...
Thousands of years of Christianity is a larp?
No, but
there was a lot of LARP that came
in the 1900s.
I don't know. I feel like atheistic
humanism is kind of a LARP, a new modernism. We're going to build a post-religious world. That just sounds like Reddit LARP. If you want to talk about that.
Well, whatever builds hydroelectric dams And tanks
Gets the approval
If you're getting in the way of that
You need to be sent away
As long as you don't get in the way
Of building the tanks it's okay We're all fine see that that's just like a technocratic no it's not mechanistic anti-human no it's not no it's yeah brave new world building tractors is brave new world? What's wrong with building
tractors?
Why are you against
mechanized agriculture?
I'm not,
but what about the soul?
What about eating?
What about food?
What about food?
What about electricity?
What about health?
What about medicine? What about electricity? What about health? What about medicine?
What about tanks and airplanes?
But all those
things are present within
other societies, even more so.
No, not all of them.
Definitely not all of them. Definitely not all of them.
Well, in the West?
Yeah, I mean,
but look what's happening.
It's all being taken away now.
It's all decaying.
All the floods and hurricanes, they're destroying
it all. But industrialism
originated from Western
societies. I mean, all the
technology that you're talking about
that came from Western civilization.
No, it didn't. It came from Tartaria.
Okay. That's a larv.
You have no response?
That's just like a we was.
We was Kang's. Like, I don't even know
what to say
So you deny the truth
That was all created
In Samarkand
I mean
Where was the steam engine built
Invented
Samarcond
What about the railroads
Airplanes
Cars
Isfahan
I don't think so
Yes it was
He was
it was.
He was stolen.
Is that it?
No.
Don't surrender now.
It was stolen.
This is like what Black Heber is, or I'd say?
So what? It's, I'd say. So what?
It's just low IQ arguments.
How?
Because it's not based in facts or reality.
How do you know?
Because we have historical evidence. I mean, it's not really
disputed except amongst quacks.
You're just calling people names.
I could put on glasses and be smart about this or you could just accept the truth that Tartaria created it
because it's the same thing either way.
I mean, there's no movement.
That's the thing.
It's like, it's no movement. That's the thing. It's like
it's just kind of
LARP. What do you mean
it's LARP? What's LARP?
Like, Marxism, Lennonism,
and
Maoism. You think that dominated
25% of the world and is still going to be unleashed upon the world the minute the boomers pass away, really?
The thing that started the only revolution of the modern era that haunts the ruling elites to this day
that haunts the bourgeoisie
to this day like a ghost
is Yellowstone
volcano a larp?
What happens when it unleashes?
Yeah, I mean, I guess you have
like Zora and Mamdongi. No, we don't. We don't have that I guess you have like Zoran, Momdani.
No, we don't.
We don't have that.
That's your guy.
Don't, don't give that to us.
Really brilliant, brilliant stuff.
Don't, don't throw that on.
That's your guy.
No, that's your guy.
No, that's your guy.
Is any a socialist?
Does anyone free food? Well, Hitler was is any a socialist does anyone
free food well Hitler was
in the same way Hitler was
it's not our guy it's your guy
I don't think so
yeah I mean I don't think the youth are really getting excited for Marxus and Leninism.
It's just kind of a relic of the past.
What are they getting excited about?
I'd say definitely they can return to tradition.
That's actual LARP.
That's the dumbest shit ever.
That's like LARC.
Not really. I mean, you look at the religious right.
It's actually just embracing what's the foundation
of all civilization and society
for all time.
Do you know what he's referencing? He's like referencing
hyperborea edits. He's like
a bunch of hyperbore
it's like no it's what Trump brought about.
So, Stalinism?
Do you not see how
Trump is stealing from Stalinism?
The whole MAGA movement, it's like
mass politics, they're all wearing
the red hats and it's like stealing
from, even Ann Applebone said it was
the new Bolsheviks.
They literally are just stealing everything from Bolsheviks.
She called him a Maoist.
Yeah. You're calling him a Maoist
and shit. You're saying it's dead.
It's never been more than I. We're going to have struggle sessions too.
Yep.
Yeah, it's already happening. It's on Twitter spaces.
This is a struggle session.
This is, yeah, this is one of them.
You have to explain, like, what do you believe in?
Because, like, I scrolled your account a little bit,
and it just seems like cool.
So, what's your thing?
I mean, I'm not really ideological.
I just, uh...
We got a brilliant post ideology guy.
Yeah, I mean, I'm just not really obsessed with labels like you guys are.
Everything needs to be like, I'm this, I'm Maoist.
I'm, I mean...
Do you support regimes or no?
I mean, I'm for American sovereignty.
What is that, what do you mean by that?
Well, I just don't think we should be beholden to special interests.
So what are you going to do about it?
Where's your regime?
Where's your power?
Where's your aura?
Where's your army?
You and what army?
You and what?
I mean, it's not really about me because...
Why not?
This is...
I mean, because this is your...
You're like the public figure pushing this...
I'm literally a Mongol warlord.
I have an army. I have a power. I have an agenda. I have a vision.
I'm the conqueror here.
You're coming and telling me you have nothing.
I'm just more interested in ideas.
You who has nothing comes to my court and tells the con that I have nothing and that I'm nothing. You have nothing. You're sitting on the
ground by the way. I'm just interested
in ideas. Yeah, that's what
peasants say. Not
conquerors. We're sitting on mattresses.
You're sitting on the ground. I mean,
though your whole ideology
is just intellectuals
who think they can speak for
the proletariat, so-called
proletariat. Didn't you just call yourself
the idea guy? We literally ride horses.
We literally ride horses.
We literally ride horses. Do you ride horses. We literally ride horses.
Do you ride horses?
The spokesperson of the working class.
Do you ride horses?
No, I don't larp.
Is that LARP to ride horses?
Why is it LARP to RAND? To like say your gangis con, yeah, that's pretty larpy.
I prove it.
I ride horses.
You don't.
You sit on a chair, gamer chair, and I ride a horse.
That's the difference.
I mean, we're both on Twitter right now, so I don't really see.
Yeah, I'm sitting in a throne room, and I'm communicating.
You have one of those, um, RGB keyboards.
Yeah, exactly.
You have a light-up keyboard.
Yeah.
Not good. Yeah. Not good.
Yeah. Okay. I mean, it's just unsurious stuff, but...
Well, no, no. It's very serious.
It's very serious.
Have you grown really even in the past
years? Yeah. Seems like you just
stagnated. You're not really
have any growth.
Grown to millions.
You just can't see them because
only... Maybe try to leach off Magid more or some more.
I have grown so much millions and millions, but ugly people can't see them.
So if you say I've stagnated, it's only, you know, I don't know what to say.
Ugly people can't see this giant army I've built.
Yeah, these are some real warriors.
Some real warriors.
I'm sorry, but he's found like five minutes away from doing something bad to yourself, so I don't really trust your judgment on warriors, you know?
Oh, you guys are real models right you are literally sitting before the con what are you
are you talking about I just find it I just find it entertaining, really.
What is entertaining?
I mean, just the LARP?
What is LARP?
Do you think the horses were fake?
You think they were CGI? Where's the larp listen i'm interested in
ideas what ideas can you show me an idea show me one idea what's an idea is it real show me one
idea go ahead show me that's see even to say there are no Show me one idea. Go ahead.
Show me. See, even to say there are no idea.
Show me.
Show me.
Show me one idea.
I just said to say you don't have any ideas is an idea.
I can show a horse and you say you have an idea.
You can't escape ideas.
My horse versus your idea.
Where's your idea?
Show it to me.
It's in the realm of forms.
Where's that?
The realm of ideas.
Where's that?
In the transcendent realm. Where's that? The realm of ideas. Where's that?
In the transcendent realm.
Where?
Show me.
Show me this realm.
Outside of time and space.
It's ethereal.
You wouldn't get that, though. Prove it.
Because you're carnal.
Prove it.
Show it. And i ride my horse there if i can't ride my horse there it doesn't even exist you're talking about
the shadow realm from
from a yugio
what are you fucking talking about
I asked you to show me your idea
you said oh it's in the fucking
it's in the shadow realm
of the
ethereal
what is this fucking Skyrim?
Are you a Dwemer?
Are you a Dwemer? He's not answering. I he's his dwemer he left total dwemer literally just gave up he admitted he's a dwemer
mao wist conier we're going to bring him on go ahead just gave up. He admitted he's a dwemer.
Maoist Kanye. We're going to bring him on. Go ahead, Maoist Kanye. Hello, Mr. Haas. Yeah.
Yeah, I don't go much time.
I'm on break from work, but I just wanted to ask you, why ACP or MAGA communism?
What's my only question?
Why what? that's my only question why what
why acp or
mega communism
um
because there's no alternative
I'd say
Maoism would be the alternative
Yeah, we are the real Maoists
Would the real Maoists not be the ones engaged in arms struggle now?
No, because they're all in jail or they're dead
The people in India, Turkey, the Philippines, No, because they're all in jail or they're dead.
The people in India, Turkey, the Philippines, Peru, Brazil.
It's not possible in America.
I'd say it's not possible yet, but given enough work, it would be. No.
You can't take on the state
directly. Not possible.
Then what is your
plan?
Leninism.
Is that not part
of Maoism?
Well,
sometimes, yeah, but
people in America
that say their Maoists,
they're just not doing anything,
you know?
I understand that point of view most open Maoists
are usually chronically online
but I would say
that there is an active movement
in the United States
working towards that goal
it's not going to happen the only thing you can have there is an active movement in the United States working towards that goal.
It's not going to happen.
The only thing you can have is organization right now.
You can build a center of influence on power and community and authority.
That's the most important thing.
Authority.
And that's what ACP is doing.
And we have the chillest people, coolest people, most hardworking people.
And we are all... Yeah, we're all about it.
You join the ACP.
You're part of an army.
You're part of a real army.
I see it.
It's going to fight for the red flag in this country and no other flag.
We are the Red Army of America.
There's no other army.
There's nothing else.
It's just us.
All right.
And then I have one other question, if that's fine with you.
Okay.
So back to what I... It kind of relates to what I was saying earlier about the wards in Peru and Philippines. What do you think about those?
And they doesn't seem to be
going anywhere.
I'd say it takes time. It took now
over 30 years.
I don't think it's comparable. Look,
I'm not going to talk too much about Philippines.
I'll talk about Peru. Look, I'm not going to talk too much about Philippines. I'll talk about Peru.
I think you've got to learn from the success and the failure, and you've got to start over.
That's what I think.
That's the goal. All right, well, thank you, Ha.
All right, you see you Well, thank you, Haug. All right. See you later.
See you, man.
Um,
I do is pretty chill.
Let's bring on Absorb toast.
Go ahead.
Guys,
if there's other people requesting
that I can't see let me know
because I can see a guy named Bring Back
and then this guy
the toast guy
Uh
What up boss?
What's up?
I just want to say I think you're fucking retarded
you had a good opportunity
to make a cool
communist American movement
you just made it retarded dog
you're not a con
you're just a retard
really when it comes down to it
uh sorry
I don't speak seething retard
I'm not seething retard.
I'm not seething, dude.
Your movement sucks, dog.
Your aesthetic suck. You are on and knee, bowing before my throne right now.
So can you compose yourself?
Wait, so is being a Genghis Khan when you ride a horse?
Is that what that is?
And it's...
Being Genghis Khan is when a horse? And it's... And it's...
And it's when you have authority in the situation, which I do, and you're the
subservient. Yeah, you have authority over
a whole bunch of internet retards who don't even know the
agenda they're pushing. You guys
hate... You guys hate Trotskyus, and yet
you talk about worldwide revolution like all the time
you mean like how every marxist ever did including Stalin well that was like trotsky's whole thing
and yet you're like trotsky was an evil nerd he was not an evil nerd.
He was right on everything.
Where's the USSR right now, buddy?
Where's Trotsky's dumb bullshit?
Nowhere.
He got killed by Stalin who then
tanked all of communism.
When did there ever been a single
successful Trotskyite revolution ever?
Where has there ever been a single successful Trotskyite revolution ever. Where has there ever been a single successful?
Your guys are gone.
Communist China, Russia, Russia, they're gone.
No, China's not here, dude.
China is not here.
Okay, what advancements towards the end socialist goal
have they made
in the past like two decades?
Are you fucking kidding?
They've fucking created the foundation.
No, go ahead.
They've created the fucking foundation
for a fully post-capitalist society
through a...
Okay, so when is it happening
it's been it's been decades
they're not on your time they don't care about
they're not on that time
it's probably it's probably it happened when they topple
the uh u.s.
hegemony so whenever you guys are
mega communists yet you're always talking
about dismantling America
that's also what I don't get
if you guys were just patriots
that would be fine
that'd be kind of cool
but you guys are like
talking about destroying America
so what the fuck are you guys
we're Tartarian Americans
whatever that means dude that means we're tartarian americans whatever that means dude
that means we're in the rocky mountains and we are
uh we're like the american taliban
we don't believe in the u.s empire
in the u.s.
but then why are you mega communist
you're just regular communist.
Because it's our Rocky Mountains.
It's our country.
It's ours.
You just said you didn't care about it, and now you're saying, oh, we care about it.
I said the regime.
The regime.
Yeah, the people who wear glasses that rule us.
So what? What are we doing pole pot now?
Was pole pop based?
You said it.
You said it, not me.
You said it.
There's no shot.
It's not a bit.
You're doing a bit.
You said it, not me.
Was pole pot based? Was killing all the people with glasses? That was so based, wasn't it?
And no comment.
Dude, okay. No, you know, I don't know. I feel like you guys are more Trotskyist than you think you are.
We are not. Just because I, do you guys are more Trotskyist than you think you are. We are not.
Just because I, do you know what World Revolution actually means?
Yeah.
And I know what Trotsky means Putin's SMO plus Yemen,
plus Ibrahim Triera, plus plus Maduro plus North Korea
That's what it means
That's the world
North Korea Juche we're talking Juche
The world the world revolution is the global
Revolutionary struggle against U.S.
Ogemony.
That's the world revolution.
No dude that's not that's not communism then. That's something totally different. Just anti-American, that's it.
Communism is the movement of history, and that's the movement of history. So yeah, it is. Communism is not the movement of history. What a big... That's what Mark said. Is that what Mark said?
Marx said communism is the
movement of history.
He said it's the real movement
that sublides the...
Yeah, because he was doing...
Yeah, because he was being descriptive
about a prediction about the future.
He wasn't saying all movement of history
is Marxism now. He wasn't saying all movement of history is Marxism
now. He was saying that
it's the riddle of history solved, sir. That's
what he said. Yeah, Dodd, that was
what he was saying. He was predicting that his whole
thing was trying to predict what the future was going to
hold. He was never
he was never, he was never
descriptive. He was predicting.
He said communism is the
essence of all historical change
and
yeah.
So that doesn't mean communism is
when historical change.
Yeah it does.
Dude, you're besting me in this debate. Yeah, it does. Dude, you're besting me in this debate.
Yeah, it does. It does. It's so good, dude.
It does. It actually does.
That's all communism is the real movement.
So communism is just any movement.
Communism is a force.
Now, we're talking about communism
with a small C or a capital C,
because the small C is the force.
Capital C is an explicit,
self-conscious,
explicit,
communist authority or movement
that knows the laws of history,
that knows and applies these laws of
history practically. Now, is the
world revolution currently
only being led by communists of the
capital C? No. And it should be.
And that's a lot of my critiques, actually. I have critiques
that are very particular. They're very
specific and substantive, where I say, for example, if communists with their capital C were in
charge in Russia right now, they'd probably be doing a lot better with the SMO, actually. They'd
probably be handling it a lot better.
Yeah.
So I have critiques like that,
but the real movement is communism, regardless of
whether communists with the capital C
are in the driver's seat or not.
Yeah, it's just,
I don't know. It's, it's, what you're saying, it's just, I don't know.
It's, it's, what you're saying is just so retarded.
I mean, I'm also a, because I'm also a communist, so I agree that, yeah,
Trotsky is, that means you're- I am a Trotskyist, I am a Trotsky, is hardcore.
So Hitler?
Dude, that's my favorite. How is Trotsky a fascist or Hitler?
Do you want me to explain?
Yes, I would love it.
So the period of the breakdown of social democracy is a form of institutionalized socialism that corresponds to imperialism. Now, when the social democracy collapsed in World War I in terms of the Second International, social democracy mutated into a different wayward and transgressive forms. Among these were fascism, left communism, and Trotskyitism. And through syndicalism, you had Georges Sorel. And these all represent the different mutations of social democracy reacting to the collapse of one stage of capitalism in the midst of a transition into a new stage.
And Trotskyism and Hitlerism and all all these different currents they were all a reaction to the
revolutions of the 1930s this guy disconnected why do you disconnect and they're part of the same
lineage left communism trotskyism and fascism and Stalinism was the progressive thing
Stalinism was the zeitgeist so to speak that's why in the New Deal you had the businessman's plot
and where Prescott Bush and J.P. Morgan were trying to overthrow FDR because they were saying he's too much like Stalin. So, you know, you have these things going on. And Trotsky, he's, you know, he's allied with Nazi Germany, Imperial Japan, and all these disgruntled glasses wearers who belonged to the Old Guard within the Soviet Union, who Stalin was toppling, because Stalin was taking barefoot peasants like Lysenko. He was taking them, and he was toppling and replacing all of these glasses wearers who belong to so-called Western civilization.
And these guys got so butt hurt that they joined along with Trotsky.
They were part of the same zeitgeist as the Hitlerites and the Rosenbergs and the original circles that gave rise to Nazism.
These were the Russian emigre exiles.
They were a lot of them were intellectuals. They were aristocrats.
And they hated the Bolshevik hordes of Russian peasants.
That they were brutish, they took power, and they wanted
to restore civilization, quote unquote. Trotsky
was part of the same zeitgeist as this.
All the people Trotsky allied with in the Soviet Union in the
30s to topple the government were people that deeply resented the vulgar brutish populism of
Stalin, where he was elevating the barbaric Russian peasants and toppling the westernized elites.
So they all went and rallied behind Hitler to take back what they thought was theirs.
And they failed.
And this guy crashed out and left because I destroyed him. and they failed.
And this guy crashed out and left because I destroyed him with the truth.
Go ahead.
Go ahead, Sarah.
Hi.
I don't know any of you guys. My apologies. I don't know any of you guys, so my apologies, I don't know how I got here, just painting and it came up. I'm just curious, a lot of buzzwords, a lot of, what is your
vision for the future of America
what do you actually want
to see in change
not labels
we want to build a giant capital in the Rocky Mountains and conquer the rest of the country and to subordinate it to this capital.
Right.
So a small group of you just taking into the country, Hunger Games style maybe.
I'm just curious, like, you know, healthcare,
education,
transport, what do you, what do you
want to do with that?
You know, what's going to be government-funded
if you're going to be the government?
Yeah.
It's just...
Um, all British science will be banned, and, uh...
So, the previous speaker was right, you're sort of looking to create an Algerian society.
Is that...
What?
I've forgotten the name.
Just,
you're not really explaining
where you want to take the country.
We want to take it to a powerful place yeah where mountain men rule Yeah?
Where mountain men rule.
Yeah? Who?
Cool?
So is this like a...
Are you guys just having a...
Have it a laugh?
Am I laughing?
Do I sound like I'm laughing?
I have no idea.
What's going?
Well, our vision for the future is very simple okay we just want to have one united republic
and we want to take the country back. What else can I say?
Yep.
So when you say you want to take it back,
what are you going to do with the people of the country?
We'll give them the power to decide for themselves.
Great, great.
Do you like the idea of, you know, smaller communities each with their governing body?
I mean, it's...
Maybe, but you need to take a drink a cup of coffee or something you need to wake up you're you're in and out of sleep and I'm getting tired Putin's Draco let's bring this guy up up.
Hello?
Yes.
Yeah.
I just have a question with you about why do you think this more political, correct approach is better for the party?
What?
If you compare yourself now to three years ago you have this more formal business politically correct approach i'm wondering what the reasoning for that is I have never given up the word
retard. I'll cling to that word, my cold
dying hands in my grave. I'll have
the word retard. No one will ever take
it from me. Anything else?
Okay, but you are kind of
nerfed.
No.
Do you not come on no you're wrong okay the way the entertainment industry now is, it's just clip farming.
How are you going to capture the younger audience with these?
Like, there's a lot of good information in your streams,
but I'm just wondering how you're going to capture the broader audience with nets with nets
there's a guy named aiden who called himself a Heidi Gary and Nietzsche and go ahead Aden.
Yeah, can you hear me?
Yeah.
So like, let's say, you know, you over to the U.S. government, you know, in quotes.
And then what happens then?
Like, are we going to have a worldwide no states or is the U.S. still going to exist?
Like, what happens to that?
We would build a powerful American state if we took power we took power
to build a powerful American state
yeah what happens after that
how would I know I don't know maybe Europe Europe will invade us. We have to go to war. No, no, I mean like, so are you going to try to spread communism to others? But we would defend our own turf, and a lot of people would probably be upset about that. There's a lot of people that probably go in exile to Europe or somewhere else,
and they would try to take back what they lost.
So we'd probably be in war for a long, long time.
It would probably be like 50 years of war, honestly.
Okay, so there's no, there's no international plan here?
No, no, the plan is, you know, we're going to focus on our own and we want to have good relations with everyone who respects us and we respect them.
Simple as that.
So this is, but this is communism?
This is classless, stateless, moneyless?
What?
This would be stateless
right just like you've achieved communism so there's no state
uh yeah we would be dismantling the greco-roman
oligarchical state and we would be returning to a more
organic type of Babylonian you know state and we would be returning to a more organic
type of Babylonian
Persian
you know Persian uh you know
a Syrian
centralized authority that is not a
state but but something more fundamental
just like my own you're walking no I'm not Mao said it Okay, you're waffling.
No, I'm not.
It's a state.
It's a state.
No, Mao said, even after the state collapses, the ancient Chinese dynastic and
centralized authorities like courts that handle squabbles between people. These things are going to
survive even thousands of years
of the future. Oh, sure, sure. You could have cultural institutions
of the state. I'm asking you, though, are you going
to retain a central U.S. government? You seem to say yes.
That's a state.
Government is not the same as a state.
Okay. What's the difference to you?
Well, okay, you're talking about the Marxist idea of a state.
I'll explain the difference. I'm not a Marxist. I'm not, I'm not, you can use that definition if you want to. It's fine.
But, but, but, but, but, but, but you did say stateless and it's stateless. So when Marxists talk about state lists, we're talking about something specific.
Why are you freaking out? What the fuck? What the fuck, dude?
I don't enjoy interruptions, that's why.
So,
okay, go ahead.
When Marx just
talking about the state, they're talking about
a cartel to enforce the
private property interests of a specific
class at the expense of the rest of society.
So that's what a state is.
It's a dictatorship of one class over all others.
When there are no classes proper, such as in societies that don't even have private property,
which according to Marx were societies that had the Asiatic mode of production,
whether they have a
state proper
is a difficult
question
because in
Engels's
work
the origins of
the state
the family
and private
property
he locates
the origin of the state, not in the thousands of years of Egypt and Babylonia and Persia, but in the rise of the ancient Greeks,
which was a very specific institution
that was basically this cartel that
enforced the interests of a land-owning oligarchy,
and this only arose in the maybe like 500, 600 maybe to 300 BC,
which there were thousands of years of centralized authority that pursued.
So I can ask the question?
Yeah.
Do the Babylonians, they didn't have a state, according to you, is that what you are saying?
It seems like according to Engels,
Frederick Engels, who talked about
the origins of a state in a canonical
Marxist sense. Don't
take it up, take it up with him, not me.
Well, I can't. He's dead.
But the point I'm trying to make
though is that those societies had a rigid class structure.
Mesopotamia had slavery.
No, it had slavery, but unlike ancient Greece, slavery was not the mainstay of production.
Most of the agriculture was done by freehold laborers, and slavery was a pretty marginal
institution.
Only in ancient Greece did it become the foundation of society.
And also slavery...
Um... of society. And also slavery did not...
Well,
it depends of the
Greek city
state, doesn't it?
It varied
through the Greek
city states
and across
time, too.
Most of the
Greek city states
had a majority
slave
populations.
Oh, sure. I guess that's true.
If you want to count, like, I guess Greek slavery is very different than chattel
slavery we would count now. Sure, there's
a lot of what they consider slavery. I don't know if it would meet our
standards of slavery, more like indentured servitude or something like that.
Yeah, and the Greeks basically invented or invented the institutionalization of private property and through the state.
So that's what Marx and Engels believe. That's what Marxism says.
Now, Marx does not equate centralized authority with states.
And communists, I think Engels says this pretty explicitly.
Even far into a communist society, there's still a centralized authority
at commands and marshals,
deproductive forces in a centralized way at scale.
Now, you can say, and you can yell and say,
oh, that's basically the same as a state.
I'm fine with that.
Then, according to your definition of a state, we don't want...
I didn't say that, by the way.
Okay, okay.
But if you do want to hand away over that, I have no problem saying that, according to that definition, we would not be against a state. There would
still be a state forever. It's just that
when Marxist spoke of statelessness,
that communism will have
no state. They were talking about something very specific.
They weren't talking about centralized authority as
such. They were talking about
an organ of class rule.
I understand that. I understand the Marx's definition of state. The question I mainly had, though, is once you have achieved communism, why can you not integrate that internationally? Why does it end in the national period? Why can't you make this...
Like, if material conditions are all that ultimately separates all people and you accomplish communism, what is preventing in an international communist, stateless society society if you want to call it that or a conglomeration or whatever you want to call it that could be the out that that that could very well be the outcome but it would probably take like hundreds and hundreds of years.
Yeah, but I'm talking logically here.
I'm not talking pragmatically at all. I'm saying the logical outcome of your ideology, does it not lead to this?
Does it lead to a integration of the entire world into
yeah basically the trots i mean you want to call us up a trotsky if you think that you know
you need some like national characteristics whatever to allow for revolution, that's fine.
But ultimately, are you not aiming at the same thing?
Are you not aiming at an international communist, you know, the eradication of capitalism
everywhere?
You can't aim toward it.
You can't aim toward it outside of the national form. You can't aim toward it. You can't aim toward it outside of the national form.
You can't.
You can ally globally with the people who are doing the same thing within their country
and have a strategic cooperation with them.
But you cannot extend beyond your own ability to act in a
collective capacity. So, for example, if I say, I have a will, the furthest extent of what will
is is taking on a national form, or at least taking on the form of a sovereign state of some kind.
Why?
Why is that?
Take the Soviet Union, for example, right?
Sure. You can say it wasn't a nation I would argue
otherwise actually but you could say it wasn't a nation you could say it was a
civilizational state yeah yeah yeah I agree and it but it was a state, okay?
So if the Soviet Union had a will...
Wait, it was a state?
The Marxist definition of state?
Yeah, it was a state.
So, because it was a proletarian dictatorship, so it was a state.
It had gulags and shit.
So...
Okay.
Sure.
So the Soviet Union wants to do something, and I want to do this.
Insofar as it has a will, its ability to articulate that will is at the scale of his state,
centralized state, right? Or some kind of civilization state or nation, right? So how can it export or enforce that other countries, other parts of the world, develop in a way that is in conformity with its goals, right?
Maybe you can look at Soviet geopolitics, but if you look at Soviet geopolitics, most of it is
defensive in its posture
in a sense that it framed itself
as being besieged
by the
international imperialist powers and it had
to play a game to fend them off
and survive and defend
what it had
and that didn't include
encouraging and supporting
like-minded people
internationally
but ultimately
you know
the Soviet Union reached its limit as far as being a collective subject.
It can't,
you can't after taking power be like,
you know,
I want to just take over the world.
Because if we did that, you would just be no different than a colonizer.
You'd be like, I'm just going to have my nation control other nations.
You're not creating a dynamic
where people are actually developing
and
becoming communists on their own
accord. You're just forcing it
on everyone. And if you force it on anyone,
then you're not creating communism.
You're just creating a situation
where, like, you know, you're just subjugating
them through your nation on others.
So that's the problem.
Well, it sounds like you're being a little bit deterministic
about it, right? So you're being a little bit deterministic about it right so you're saying
if you influence other historical growth then that's bad right you're saying you shouldn't
do that it's colonize now wait wait wait i just want to give you the dichotomy just give me a
dichotomy just give me this i want to give you the godmike. Or you're saying, so if you don't do
that, that's bad. Or if you do that, that's bad.
But then that means that the alternative is what?
That it's just going to naturally happen?
Because I think even a, even a Hagellian
model that's a very much stronger
teleology than Marx, even in Hagell,
there's not like, it's not like it has to happen that all civilizations will tend towards it. At least that's my reading in Hague. I don't think he's saying that. I just think he's saying that the rightful state is the one that obeys its essence, and these are the ones that obey their essence. There's no reason why all states have to eventually obey their essence.
Does that make sense?
So I don't see why you can't be forcing the rightful state on other states.
Like, why is that a problem?
You can't force it because then you're not creating a situation in which communism is actually developing materially in those other countries rather it is just your nation in subjugating or imposing its will on another.
You're depriving others of their ability to develop historically on their own terms,
which means that they're not developing toward communism at all.
Now, influence is a different matter.
Influence is fine. You can influence,
spiritually influence, soft power
influence. That's what the Soviet Union wanted to do.
Sorry, I just
question. I don't interrupt you, but isn't this
what the USSR literally did to Eastern Europe?
They just won World War II
and then forced them to be communist.
Like, there weren't, like,
isn't this literally what happened?
The whole war stop Act was just forced.
It wasn't like the Nazis just
all of a sudden became communist.
They were forced,
communism was forced on them.
Contrary to every single
wanted the German people.
I'm not,
I'm not a Nazi,
but I'm just saying like
this is clearly not more than just an influence.
But this wasn't one nation imposing its will on another because it was a war.
That's what a war is, isn't it?
Well, let me finish.
It was a war at which the Soviet Union was invaded first, and then it defeated the Nazis.
And, you know, according to this outcome of the war itself, yeah, the national realities themselves changed in Eastern Europe.
The question of a sovereign people with a sovereign right to self-determination, that kind of gets thrown up in the air once they get suspended in warfare, which is the very engine of how nations are formed and are created in the first place.
I wouldn't say that the Soviet Union forced Eastern Europe.
Really? I think they very clearly did. I mean, I was in Eastern Europe a couple months ago.
Yeah, I know that they say that.
They definitely did have a massive
influence. I don't think most people
were... They had a massive influence. They had a
massive influence,
but it's not the Soviet Union's fault
that it won the war. It won the war.
No, I agree. It was
the victor. It was the big guy
in town. And there was a strong
incentive for people to
for communists
to win, basically. It was like,
yeah, you could say there was a coercion
quote-unquote factor. But was it like direct force? No. was like, yeah, you could say there was a coercion, quote unquote, factor,
but was it like direct force?
No.
Well, I mean, Hungary was invaded.
Put it this way.
If America
becomes communist and minds its own business,
and then Europe or anyone in the world comes and, to fuck with us and kills 30 million of our people.
In that case, I am totally for a war of conquest where we force our own thing on them.
How about that?
Okay, sorry, So just like,
just to clarify, so
the reason why I brought out the example
is because I think it's contrary
to your position, right? Your position was
we need to make this an authentic. You can use like
Heidi Gehry language. It's an authentic, grounded experience of communism. That's fine. But that's you can use like high to hear any language you do authentic grounded
experience of
communism
that's fine
but that's not
what World War II was
but World War II
was like a
realpolitik
situation where the
USSR was like
we're never going to allow
the Germans
to have self-determinacy
because look
the last thing that happened
so we're just going
to impose our will on them
and that's what happened same with Hungary
and Poland and all the other things
at all that's not what happened at all
okay the USSR
had a choice between allowing
America and Britain to control
Germany or they can
you know
they can have their own control so that was the
choice sure sure but but
but according to your original position
right which is you want an authentic grounded
communist
solution union was sure sure right but authentic grounded communist revolution
was trying to
right but that's not what happened in Eastern Europe
you didn't let them have self-determinacy
to allow them their authentic revolution
you just pose it on them because
the Soviet Union had to fight a war of
self-defense they They were invaded.
Their sovereignty was encroached upon.
That required a new security architecture.
Right. No, I agree with you. I'm just saying
that so the position, so clearly the existence
of the state comes over
the sort of teleology
of history, right?
To you in this example?
The
security needs of a state,
a communist state, to defend its own
sovereignty and its own security
is itself something to defend its own sovereignty and its own security,
is itself something that is actively suspended in history.
It's not something outside of history.
It's in history.
It's not trying to force something on history. It's trying to be,
have a seat at the table
of the development of history
just like anyone else.
Oh, sir, you're done.
Sorry. Yes, but it's contrary to the positions of other states.
So again, the point I'm trying to make is you want this authentic revolution, but you don't want it.
Put it this way.
The actions of the USSR, the actions of the USSR would not have been different than any other state...
Yes, that's true. I agree.
Regardless of ideology, it's they didn't do it because they were trying to impose communism.
They were just trying to defend their state in a sovereign capacity.
Now, just because you become a communist state doesn't mean you suddenly no longer observe the laws of realism and warfare and all that kind of stuff and sovereignty
and what's demanded of that.
But don't confuse the two.
You're not, you're no longer an, you're not an actor driven by an attempt to impose your system or ideology on others uh sure
but so so so just to be clear so the uss USSR could have allowed an authentic
revolution in those
societies or no. You don't think that was possible?
Before they were invaded
in 41? No, no, after, after.
Well, they actually tried,
for what it's worth, not a revolution.
They tried for there to be free elections in Germany within 48.
That wasn't allowed.
They held elections in several of these.
The way they went about it formally was not just imposing their will at gunpoint.
And moreover, there were communist forces in these countries that did have a degree of autonomy.
As proven by the fact that you had countries like Romania leave the Warsaw Pact and curry favor with the West.
You had Yugoslavia. Tito totally turned on Stalin.
You had Albania later break with the Soviet Union.
So I don't think it was a situation where they were totally imposing it on others.
I think you're underestimating the degree in which there was
actually...
There was actually a national...
There was a national foundation of the
communist regimes
in those countries. That was pretty organic.
Yugoslavia is a good example for me, actually organic. Yugoslavia is a good example
for me, actually, because Yugoslavia was
a genuine authentic revolution
against, well, against the Chetniks
and against the Nazis.
You got to understand, there were communists in all
of these countries that were authentic national
national... Yes. No, there were.
There were,
but they were not popular.
The only state they were popular in,
well,
not the only one,
but the one that they were most popular in
was the one that had the independence post-World War II,
which was,
Yugoslavia,
it basically liberated itself,
that the Soviets in the war
for the weapons.
The thing is,
you had a Soviet occupation
that was not related
to a demand
to an incentive
to impose communist systems,
but more for
USSR security,
whatever.
Wait, really?
Is that true, though?
Yeah, the occupation was not rooted in a desire
to spread communism. It was rooted
in securing the
geopolitical and security interests of the USSR.
Yes, that I agree with it.
But the occupation created a context in which
the situation was more
favorable for communists within these countries
because communists were the ones that were
more closer in terms of their ideology, their outlook, and their interests with the occupying nation.
The communists were preaching a message of basically, let's further cooperate our friendship with the USSR and integrate and so on and so on.
And that was just circumstantially more convenient and viable, and it's the path of least resistance.
Okay, I understand. So if World War II didn't happen, the USSR, to you, never would have invaded Western Europe, or at least if they weren't provoked.
If they weren't provoked, right?
Because they might have been provoked by America or the Russians.
If they weren't, if they didn't feel like they had to, to defend their own borders, they wouldn't have...
Okay, and then they also...
And then, if they didn't invade, I guess the second question is superfluous, but I was going to ask to do so for the purpose of spreading communism.
But they would
support revolution, like, in Spain
and Cuba,
and I don't know, South America,
Angola, stuff like that. They would support those,
but they wouldn't, like, invade. Is that what you're saying?
Yeah, maybe they would provide assistance or moral support or material support, but they would not themselves impose it.
Okay, so you have no desire to impose communism on any other
state or any other people.
No desire. Interesting.
And then what about
the national characteristics
are retained in your society?
Because at least for me,
I'm not a capitalist, but I'm also
not a Marxist. I don't think that
communists, I think the communism basically destroys
historical people.
I think this happens in basically
every single communist state, especially
in the USSR and China.
You probably disagree with me, but I find that the revolutionary characteristics of it just destroy a history.
So how are you planning on retaining the American history?
And what does that even mean to you?
Well, I think all history is born of revolutions and that the the reason revolutions in part destroy histories
is because what they're actually doing is they are uh they are consolidating a chain of historical logic
and development in a determinate way.
And this closes off certain histories. This closes off certain things from the past that have basically proven their their dialectical resolution.
Yeah, no, I understand.
You're making the Marxist-Sagalian argument.
Right.
So I think that the history is not just a creative,
it's also a profoundly destructive process um i would say that's history
itself history no i think you're over rationalizing history and this is the issue out of hagel i don't
think that history is this rational construct.
Maybe it's not rational, but it...
Well, it is to Hegel.
Sure, but all I'm saying is that history
itself is very destructive.
Well, I guess it depends what I mean by history I mean sure all creation is destruction I mean that's also a alien I'll agree with that one
but I think at a certain point when you're like you know destroying monuments to ancient chinese emperors or something
I think that's a step too far.
I think you're just, you're just shitting on your own culture.
And why?
For what?
For a, for a theological paradise?
But be fair. It's nothing new.
Iconoclasm was nothing new in Chinese civilization.
They did it all the time. They would destroy monuments
and statues, and
the Christians did the same shit with the dumb
trees of Europe.
Oh, I don't, I think that the Christian
colonialism of China was
like inauthentic, too.
I'm not defending that either.
I'm not talking about China. I'm not talking about China. I'm talking about what Christianity
did in Rome and Europe and everywhere in the world. Yeah, but Christianity is not authentic.
Christianity is like an alien parasite on civilizations.
Pagans also did the same thing.
Pagans also had iconoclastic
traditions.
Against what?
Against
whatever nonsense,
stupid.
In Egypt, for example, they had the,
what was it?
I don't even think Egypt is considered pagan.
I don't even know if Egypt is considered pagan.
Sure.
At least, sorry, maybe it is.
I'm just, when I consider pagan,
I consider pagan europe like like what
like what iconocles is happening and you know probably probably probably countless
forgotten ones that were never remembered but we see see from, for example, tribal societies have these cycles of iconoclasm and pagan decadence.
And when they're in a stage of returning to their roots and rooting out the corruption you you very much find a pattern of these tribes destroying idols destroying things um and then you know there's a cycle of decadence where they start worshiping stuff again and
but that's a cycle i mean india take take india for example when the buddists from the north
took over india forget which empire this was
it was iconoclastic
the Buddhists were iconoclastic
they didn't like the images and idols
and all the various
deities
sorry what religion was in India before Buddhism?
I don't know that much about India.
It was the kind of, um,
Hinduism, I guess.
I don't know what else to call it.
Isn't Hinduism just the form of Buddhism?
No.
Or other way around or something?
No, they're both part of the
Darmic tradition, but they're different.
Sure, sure. But like, I mean,
but they're the same then.
Like, they're the ultimate, the same root, the same culture.
Right?
Yeah, but Buddhism
is more iconoclastic and it's more um sure but they're the same
civilization but my point is is that like when you get really really deep down this is going to be our
disagreement i guess because you're a marxist But when you get very, very deep down,
you will reach a point where there is just a civilizational culture.
And I do not think that communism respects that whatsoever.
I think communism is the only thing that preserves it.
No, I don't
think that's true at all. Look at history.
I mean, look at what the USSR did to the arts
and the music.
The alternative was
Russia becoming the Middle East today.
That's it.
What? What are it. What?
The, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, what, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What? How is it, like, is your, how can you avoid, how can you avoid modernity?
Well, define modernity.
This violent rupture that gives rise to specific
um
uh uh
leveling
of all society
according to a single standard
um
and at the level of nature of the rupture of all society that gives rise to a single standard
is that what you said a single standard to which all differences, all differences within nature, all differences within culture, all differences within politics, and being itself is held to.
And you asked me off the top of my head to define modernity, okay?
I'm not trying to, I'm not trying to go to show.
This is not, this is that there was a genuine question.
Well, modernity is the reign of immediacy and nowness, you know, at the expense of...
At the expense of what is archaic and what is conventionally established.
So
this is, I mean,
it's a difficult question to just define
modernity in a simple way, but that's
my crack. Well, you can make it less simple.
The reason why I'm asking you
is because depending on so if you use like a Higalian definition of modernity
I don't think maternity is
necessary I don't think
I think it's impure
look it's necessary because for the same reason
that the Prussians had to become modern.
Because militarily, modernity wins, speed wins, okay?
More effective mechanical organization of your army like Napoleon did.
That wins objectively. You become
the conqueror. You set the rules.
You win politically.
You win militarily, right?
And suddenly, just to be able
to resist this, you have to become
modern.
And that's what happened to the Prussians.
Yeah, so it happened to the Chinese,
the Japanese, I understand what you're trying to say.
But the point, so this is, again,
this is like, I think you're just sort of
taking from the end to the Marxist position here.
But just because I use the technology of modernism,
does that make me a modernist?
Does that make me a modernist?
I say so, yes.
I don't think it does.
I don't think that the ideology
or the, what you want to call it, the beliefs
or the superstructure, whatever you want to call it, the beliefs or the superstructure, whatever you want to call it, other civilization is dependent on the weapons they use.
But Heidegger would say it is.
No, he wouldn't.
What?
No, he wouldn't.
Heidegger said that the very adoption of modern
technology...
No, no, no, no, no.
He's talking about
technological and framing.
He's talking about technological
and framing.
Right.
Which is...
That's the interpretation,
that's the interpretation
of being as standing
reserve.
That is not the use of technology.
The use of technology is
nascent and dozing.
The use of technology, it's the
break down that very phrase
use of technology. It presupposes a specific
and framing of BAs. Yes. The right of your hand.
I understand.
So for Heidegger,
modern technology is a trap and there is no way
to kind of be outside of it
in such a way that preserves
the authenticity of Dawson.
And... Yes, there is.ain and and in and and there is
where does Heidegger say there is
contributions to the philosophy of the event
that's the whole point of the book
I think's not I think that yes
what do you think hold on the title of book
I don't know the full German something I I don't know what contributions is. It's contribution,
it's, Contributions, philosophy. I think it's either Der Arrigness. What do you think Arrigness? What do you think that means? What year was this written?
It was, well, it was like a collection of notes
that he was published post posthumously because he only wrote one book right being in time
everything else is either lectures or unpublished notes but the whole point of contributions
to philosophy look this up contributions to philosophy, look this up,
contributions to philosophy of the event
is to think being
beyond technology,
which is poetically,
poesis. Yeah.
So you can't escape technology.
Which you said you couldn't. You just said you couldn't do that, but you can't. technology, which you said you couldn't.
You just said you couldn't do that, but you can't.
Hold on.
You're making two different arguments.
My only argument was that according to Heidegger, the adoption of modern technology traps you within it.
Now, you're saying Heidegger...
That's not true.
You're saying Heidegger opens the way
for the possibility of thinking beyond technology, maybe.
But it doesn't change my argument.
Okay, he doesn't think that the cause of technological thinking
is technology it's the other way around is technological thinking causes technology right yeah what
do you know what caused technological thinking look i, I'm not going to get sidetrack.
Well, look, answer the question.
Wait, hold on, you brought up Heidegger.
You've been on, you've been on.
Hold on.
Hold on, no, no, no.
I'm the host here.
I'm going to continue my point, okay?
All right.
I'm not going to branch off my question.
I'm going to continue my point. You brought it up.
You brought it up.
Heidegger talks about technological civilization's technological era, right, as corresponding to a specific in framing of being specific enclosure or forgetting of being okay so the question of whether technological civilization can be preserved, while is overcoming or thinking beyond technology itself, you know, as a specific forgetting of being.
I don't think Heidegger is very optimistic about that.
Now, you claim, oh, yes, he is.
There's a specific book where he talks about poetic thinking as going beyond technological thinking.
Sure, but how do you demonstrate
the ability for this specific type of thinking
to simultaneously preserve the achievements
of technological civilization while going beyond them?
I don't think Hyderer really...
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I never
said that you can retain technological
civilization. Okay, so, but that was
my point the whole time. That was my point.
Can I just finish without my sentence? Can I just finish my sentence, please?
Thank you.
What I said was
remember this whole
part of it because you said
that war and the use
of technology causes
modernism.
And then he said,
Heidegger says that.
That's not what Heidegger said.
No, that's not what I said.
You are...
That's what you said.
What I said
was that war
makes modernity inevitable., what I said was that war makes modernity inevitable.
And what I said, is that for Heidegger, and you said, well, no, using technology doesn't place you within modernity.
I said, yes, it does.
You said, no, not necessarily. You can use technology while still being outside of modernity. I said, yes, it does. You said, no, not necessarily. You can use technology while still
being outside of modernity. I said, but Heidegger didn't think that. And he said, no, no,
Heidegger doesn't think that. So that's why I brought up Heidegger. I didn't accuse Heidegger of making
the claim that the cause of the modern era was war.
That was my claim.
Okay.
No, I understand that.
No, no, I understand that.
I'm just telling you my position.
I'm not accusing of anything.
I don't know why you went on that.
I'm not accusing you of something.
Just let me be very clear.
You believe,
okay,
you believe
that war,
right,
happens between states
who I guess,
you know,
realist lens
want to survive.
And to do that,
they need technology,
right?
Is that,
is that correct?
My point was much more precise, actually. Okay? My point was about modernity.
Yeah.
The Napoleonic Wars forced modernity even upon reactionary powers that we're trying to resist it.
Because speed is, you can't negotiate with speed.
You can't negotiate with a more mechanically sophisticated organization.
You cannot negotiate with a more effective centralized organization. You cannot negotiate with a more effective centralized degree of control over information and logistics and movement. These are all things that impact the outcome of who
rules. Okay. So that was how I framed my argument of the inevitability and unavoidability of modernity.
Okay.
I'm just a little bit confused.
Why does the use of technology necessitate modernity? Because it's not just the use of technology. It's a specific
comprehension of, for example, how you conduct war, how you organize armies, which also leads into
and is related to how do you organize society, how do you comprehend society, how do you relate to nature, how do you relate to other human beings and so on and so on.
This is what the French Revolution was. This is what was at stake in the Napoleonic Wars, if you think about it in a lot of ways.
Okay, so you seem to be describing like total war.
Is that what you're saying?
So the majority leads to total war?
You know what I mean about total war, right?
Like the full mobilization of society for war?
But this corresponds to a specific relationship toward nature and to other human beings that is modern.
And so it's not just technology in the abstract.
It's something more specific that was materially superior, materially superior.
Right. Again, I'm trying to get from using technology, right, which you said to you, the use of technology and we're going to get from that.
Wait, can I just finish, please, please.
I let you talk. I'll let you talk. I'll let you talk. You know what? You know what? And we're going to, we're going to, I've let you talk what you know what and we're going to
I've let you talk for 50
fucking minutes
okay
it's like I've lost
like a third of the fucking audience
to talking to you
what the fuck are you bringing to the table
okay
holy shit
you cannot
fucking get past this simple point that the Napoleonic Wars enforced modernity through military superiority, all right?
I think it's a really simple fucking point.
I'm not interested in in, in, in, in, and, in, and, in, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and shit. Because look is why guys I believe in brain rot, and Italian
brain rot and shit. Because look at
how much I try to meticulously talk
about shit and describe shit.
And everyone gets fucking bored. Everyone
wants to go to sleep.
And everyone gets tired. When I act like a
fucking idiot and say stupid funny shit,
understand there's a lot more intelligence going into that
than in the dumb shit that people just fucking overthink to themselves, okay?
Because at the end of the day, I am modern.
Fucking speed is what wins.
Not gibber.
In so many words,
in so many fucking words,
okay,
sitting and gibbering,
which is what Reneguon did,
to be honest,
and Ivola,
sitting and gibbering
about modernity, doesn't make up for the need to fucking build railroads
and tanks and factories and actually fucking hold your own in this wild wild fucking world okay at high noon
whoever's quickest on the fucking draw wins you can jibber and talk about anything you want
whoever's quickest on the fucking draw wins.
And the other guy dies, by the way.
Only one person.
Only one person fucking wins.
And that's who's quickest on the draw.
The other guy, he's dead.
It's like in Indiana Jones.
That guy who was in the market and the guy came, he was swinging a sword.
He literally just pulled out the pistol.
He shot him.
He's dead.
The other guy was a traditionalist and he was talking about modernity.
Hey, only one fucking guy made it out.
You understand?
That's the fucking brutal wild world we live in.
And you know what?
I think this is what's real.
Because go into nature.
Look at how a fucking tiger hunts a boar.
You tell me the tiger's not a modernist.
Quick on the fucking kill with zero hesitation or you fucking die.
That's reality. You you hesitate you're dead lenin he came back to russia
if he hesitated for a single fucking moment he said this will pass us by decades and decades will never get this opportunity again no fucking way that's not jerry that's not jerry
who said that's jerry
i thought jerry's at the club
that's just some i gg bullshit people make up
because it's funny that's not jerry
that's not Jerry.
That's... That's...
Wait, is it?
Hold up.
Hold up.
Hold up.
Are you Jerry?
Are you Jerry? Are you Jerry?
No, not.
Are you Jerry?
Aren't you supposed to be at the club?
You're Jerry.
Yes.
Wait, is this Bring Back movie?
I'm just fucking wrong. I have no idea who Jerry is.
What? Aiden, are you Jerry? I have no idea who Jerry is. Wait, what?
Aiden, are you Jerry?
What?
Are you Jerry?
What the fuck does that mean?
What?
Are you Jerry?
You have the same... Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Okay, hold on.
You didn't let me finish what I was saying.
What the fuck?
You want to us?
I'm like, are you Jerry?
I don't know.
From the discord or something.
You're Jerry.
I don't, I don't have discord.
Aden 655, isn't Haas at least somewhat Hegelian?
This is the most anti-Higelian rant
I've ever heard.
He never studied at university.
It's esoteric edgy drivel.
That was you and you are Jerry.
And you said you'd be at the club.
Yes, I'm Jerry Springfield
or Jerry, whatever.
No, why are you lying?
Can I finish what I was saying, please?
You said you were going to be at the club.
Why aren't you at the club?
I was.
I posed a video.
What are you talking about?
You were at the club and you came home.
I guess you got lucky. You came home and this is what you talk about.
No, no, no. I'm like, fucking sitting at a bus stop right now.
You're at a bus stop, dude.
And you were talking about going to the club.
Yeah, I was in the club.
Okay, can I finish with a saying, please?
No, you can't, because now that you're Jerry, everything changes.
Oh, are you upset?
That's upsetting.
You said that you have to go to the club and you can't come on.
I literally, yeah, I went.
What happened to the club?
I came back.
Where the fuck you doggie?
Why did you come back?
Why?
Why'd you come back?
Because the club closes, bro.
The club closes early here.
You don't even know a country on then, dog.
I asked you why you're going to the club on a Thursday night.
You said that's when everyone gets turned up.
It's only 1 a.m. It's 1.30 a.m.
Yeah. Do the clubs close here early?
Bro, when I said, when I said
when I said you're in the club
at 10 p.m. You're like, nobody goes to the club
at 10 p.m. Yeah, you go at 11.
So you go at 11.
So you go at 11 and then you go for 30 minutes?
No, it closes at 1.
You go to, so you, for two hours?
1.130 depends. Depends on the club.
Some of the, the latest they can open sale here open is two.
Why did you not announce that you were Jerry when you first came on?
Because I wanted to talk to you, which I was until you fucking shut me down.
Yeah, yeah. I want to talk to you about, well, I want to talk about Heidegger, but I was like, it's going to be too obvious. I got to talk to you about hide well I want to talk about
hideger but I was like it's gonna be too obvious
I got to talk to you about history and shit
you know but you brought up high diger
it was perfect
you fell into my trap
did you have no fun at the
words did you have no fun at the club?
Did you have no fun at the club?
What are you talking about?
I went with my girlfriend.
Was it fun?
Yeah, of course.
For the 20 minutes you were there, what did you do?
No, I left at like 10.15 or something.
And I got, and I'm...
I thought nobody goes at 10.
I left at 1015, like my house at 1015.
I thought nobody goes at 10. They don Like my house at 1015. I thought nobody goes at
10. They don't.
I pre-gamed. I fucking said this to you.
You know, we're not listening to what I texted you?
So you pre-gamed?
Yeah. Because I don't have to spend the money in the club.
Because it takes fucking two hours right now.
Are you turned up
with fireball?
No, I don't drink
fireball.
I shit's gay as
fuck.
I drink vodka.
And
just vodka by itself.
Yeah,
by the way,
I've been talking to
this entire time
like smashed. So, so yeah so you're drunk and you couldn't define modern and you couldn't define modernity which is kind of so you're drunk right now that's a tough one you couldn't define modernity sober and i was talking about heidegger drunk. Can you define it for me right now
on the spot?
You want my definition of modernity? Right now.
And do it quickly. Oh, sure. Technological
and framing that results in nihilism.
That's not modernity. That's the stupidity.
That is my modesty. That's the Heidegger definition of modernity.
That's the dumbest shit I've ever fucking heard.
Okay.
What is your definition?
Oh, wait, you can't define it.
I tried my best all the top of my head to be-
Yeah, you tried your best and you failed.
That's tough.
Mine is actually more profound than yours. Oh really? But you
it's so profound you can't say it. You're actually a mystic.
You know, you're having a revelation as we were
speaking. You just... I was trying to... Listen, listen.
You couldn't communicate. What you said, Aidan,
what you said could apply
to the discovery of fire.
It is nothing
actually modern. That's not technological and framing.
No, there's nothing about what you said that is modern.
There's nothing uniquely modern about that.
Yeah, because it's not technological.
Modernity is about
the institutionalization and supremacy of a self-related nothingness that levels and standardizes all being according to a single common standard that is unyieldingly and uncharitably imposed upon every interaction between man and nature and man and man.
That's off the top of my head, Aiden, and you said technology and nihilism, you child.
Yes, that's literally what it is.
Sit down. I am your new professor. Sit down.
That's what it means. Do you want me to tell you what it means?
I literally came up with that on top of my head.
It's so profound. And what you said was technology and nihilism.
Yes, it's the nihilism
that resulted from Plato's technological
and framing. So
majority begins with Plato? That's retarded.
Modernity doesn't begin with Plato.
No. Nileism began
with the end of Plato's project.
Which was German idealism, basically,
a little bit before German idealism.
But modernity fucking began with early modernity,
which is way before German idealism.
Dumbass!
Yes, because that was the origins of nihilism, but nihilism reached its full potential with Hegel. That was the culmination of...
Why was nihilism not present in the discovery of fire?
What? Because it wasn't
technological and framing.
Why not?
Well, it's the other way
how is looking at fire
technological and framing?
Is it not creating,
not looking.
Hold on, hold, hold, hold.
Do you think
that just using equipment is technological, is that what you think technological and framing is? Hold, hold. Hold, hold. Hold, hold. Hold, hold. Hold, hold. Hold, hold. Hold, hold. Hold, hold.
Just, wait, hold.
Just ask the question.
You're talking about utilitarianism, okay?
That's what you mean
by technological
and framing.
You mean that and nothing else
because stop being
pretentious.
Stop being pretentious.
You just mean
ethical at all.
What are you talking about?
You just mean utility.
Yeah, you're treating
everything as a fucking utility.
Okay, that's what you mean.
Okay?
Oh, oh, that's what you know by totalitarianism.
That's what 99% of people fucking mean by it, okay?
No, utilitarianism is an ethical.
No, most people, when they say utilitarianism, that's what they're referring to, okay? No, utilitarianism is an ethical. No, most people when they say utilitarianism, that's what they're, that's what they're referring to, okay?
So treating everything as a utility, you know, for the fulfillment of something else.
So, look.
Well, not, not everything.
Yeah, yeah, hold on.
Being. It's a very yeah, hold on. Being.
It's a very important difference.
Being. Not everything.
Okay.
Do you see the semantics here, like how these people are insufferable?
It's not semantics.
That's a, okay.
You should know.
You are absolutely fucking insufferable.
I'm trying to speak in a way that's
common sense to the average retard and you're talking about
a distinction that is operatively meaningless and of no
significance in terms of communication of anything that anyone can
The ontological difference is the foundation of Heidegger.
It's really important...
The ontological difference between being and beings.
Now, when would...
And my use of the word everything,
when was it so fucking loaded
that I am somehow being neglectful of that.
You said everything.
Being is on a thing.
You see what I mean?
It's like, being is also not a being,
you fucking retard.
That's right.
It's not a being.
So by using the word being,
or would you be... If you were just charitably,
focus on the content of what I'm trying to say.
You wouldn't get wrapped up in these fucking semantics.
Okay?
Not semantic.
By me saying everything,
I could very well be talking about being with a capital B.
No, you couldn't. Yes, I could. Yes, I could.
No, you couldn't. Yes, I could. It's not a thing.
It's not a thing. It's also not a being
either, and you're still calling a being.
But you still use the word being to describe it. So shut the fuck up.
I'm using the proper noun
being not a being. Yeah.
Which is universal category. I could say
everything and I could mean the same thing
and I don't have to be technical about it.
It's what I'm trying to say. Okay.
For the purposes of simplification,
you're fucking being obtuse because you're a pseudo-intellectual child in college who thinks they're smart because a professor gassed you up and tapped you on the head and go, you're so smart. You're not, though. You're just a fucking idiot because smart people see the essence behind communication.
They don't just fucking focus on formalities and technicalities like you do.
You might be trying to fucking score on a multiple choice test and think that's what gives you intelligence.
It doesn't.
What gives you intelligence is your fucking ability to maneuver the wild west and wilderness of language and communication and still fucking understand what you're talking about. Okay, you don't you speak with pretension. You speak with formalism, you don't understand the
essence of things. I am your
new teacher now, bow before me.
Is your rant over? Can I
continue the conversation? It's not over.
Okay, please continue. This is
very entertaining.
You gave me your definition of modernity as utilitarianism and nihilism. I'm asking you why that
doesn't apply to the discovery of fire. Please answer. Okay. The discovery of fire. Please answer.
Okay.
The discovery of fire is not necessarily technological and framing.
Neither is
modernity itself historically.
Well, the definition of
modernity is technological.
So by my definition,
what you are referring to
as the rise of modernity,
which I'm going to assume,
let's just say for simplification's sake,
don't fucking obscure it,
the rise of capitalism,
the steam engine, and industrial civilization.
Yeah, that's fair. That's a fine definition.
Sure. That also doesn't
necessarily have to mean
technological in framing and nihilism.
But according to Heidegger, it does.
But it doesn't necessarily.
In the same way that it doesn't It's challenging forth onto being.
That's what capitalism is.
It doesn't necessarily have to be that in the same way that the discovery of fire doesn't necessarily have to be that.
So you're using a technical term capitalism.
So if you want to talk with the material conditions of capitalism, maybe, like maybe having
corporations is not necessarily technological, but capitalism is like as an ideological stance
to pursue profit is clearly technological.
Do you want to explain why or do you agree with me on that?
But for example, technology is involved and partakes in all of the rituals and forms of activity that
correspond to the discovery of fire.
Sorry, I don't see the correlation there.
Because in the discovery of fire, human societies organize themselves around principles
that technology also partakes in.
So why is this not technological?
Sure.
So fire can be used technologically.
I agree with you on that.
So the discovery of fire,
when I mean,
when I talk about the discovery of fire, I'm not just talking about somebody seeing fire.
I'm talking about people knowing how to start fires and use them.
That's what I meant.
Yeah, yeah.
That's not necessarily technological.
Why not?
So, all using it.
Sure.
So, like, do you know the Heraclitus example that Heidegger uses?
Which one?
Because it's actually a very specific example he uses for us.
So, okay, so there's, like, there's these students that come to see Heraclitus, and they think they want to be, I think it's in the letter on humanism, I think.
Have you read the letter on humanism?
Just continue your argument.
I'm asking, because I don't have to say the whole thing if you haven't read it.
You don't have to say the whole thing.
Okay. Basically, the students come, they see Heraclitus,
and he's supposed to be this hermit, who's this like mystic, who's supposed to be this like profound thinker.
And when they meet him, it's raining and he's sitting by a fire, and he's like shivering by a fire.
And they're all surprised. They're like, oh, like, why is he sitting by this fire?
Shouldn't he be thinking profoundly?
He's like a regular human.
And he says to them, even the gods dwell amongst fire.
That's like a rough translation.
That's basically what it means.
So what is he trying to say here?
What he's trying to say is that fire is also, like, it's like divine or it's holy, it's part of the fourfold. It doesn't have to be used technologically. It can also be a tool, or I guess not a tool, but a method of the revelation of being spiritually, not just technologically. Does that make sense?
Or I'm no more detail if you want. I'm trying to keep it vague.
That's a great
detraction
from the point, though,
because the point is
societies
that discovered fire fire used fire to cook food.
Is this divine behavior?
Sure.
Is this technological?
Well, hold on.
Yes, they could use it as that
they could also
no they have to survive
they can't
in the hey they have to
so let's stop this
they could
they have to
well yeah sure
okay
so is that
to you is that technology?
I'm not talking about, like I said,
I'm not talking about...
No, no, it's not necessary.
I'm not talking about starting fires to look at them.
I'm talking about starting fires
with intent, with practical intent and purpose.
Is that technological to you?
It's technological if they do not recognize the beauty of it.
That's the point Heider is making.
Okay.
So by that same standard, capitalism is not necessarily technological.
Well, capitalism as the exploitation of resources and people. Why is it impossible to recognize the beauty of that? Nick Land does.
Well, Nick Land is like...
I don't hear your opinion on him.
You can still recognize the beauty of it.
The beauty of capitalism?
Yeah, you can.
Marx...
No, no, you're right. You could try.
The issue is that capitalism
forces you to infrain. or at least makes you frame things as a
With that very statement about saying recognizing the beauty, you've just proven to me you don't know a fucking thing about Heidi Grer and I'm done talking to you.
Why am I even entertaining that?
Well, if you recognize the beauty.
First of all, I could actually answer your question better than you could.
Okay, Heidegger does not necessarily equate technology
with every type of practical relationship between man and nature that is mediated.
That for Heidegger is not automatically technet, right?
Techne is something very specific, okay?
You failed, I give you an F just on that.
Just on being able to tell me what Techne is for Heidegger.
You get a fucking F for not understanding that.
Okay.
But second of all
for you the operative
distinction is to be able to recognize
the beauty
where the fuck does that come from
your own ass
and you tomorrow you're going to say it was because you were a drunk so do
me a favor go to bed get over your hangover tomorrow and next time we have a confront the chairman
space you come on sober and hopefully i catch you at a time
where you're not in the club and 50 cent is not here he's saying part in the club and it's not playing
and you can come on and make a fucking argument.
Someone said you're 21 years old.
I literally will go to your college and debate your professor in front of you so you can see who
the real authority is.
I'm your professor now.
You get an F.
And by the way,
everyone who's at the club,
they just sent me a message.
They said you were broke.
They said you walked in for five minutes and then ran out.
Because you got social anxiety and we're shy.
That's what everyone said.
So don't take it
from me.
And 50 Cent was there
and he was singing. He was singing
in the club.
And everyone said you tried to debate him about Heidegger and you got kicked out and you said you're at a bus stop
get your life together Aiden
why are you at a fucking bus stop. Get your life together, Aidan!
Why are you at a fucking bus stop?
Arguing about hiding with me at 140 a.m.
College tuition
was wasted, and now
you're in student debt.
It's student debt.
The only way you redeem yourself send $500 right now and I will burn that exact amount in front of the world
you said your parents paid for your tuition, use your parents' card.
Show the power of your parents
Use their card
Send one band for wasting my fucking time
all right guys
I'll see you guys on the next space
it's on
infrared.com
or sorry, kick.com slash
infrared.
I'm going to
still be streaming
for another
few minutes
and we will
be here next week.
Wait,
is there anyone
else interesting?
Bring back.
This one guy, you better be so interesting.
Bring back.
Go ahead.
Bring back.
Yeah.
What's up?
The fuck do you mean?
What's up?
Wow.
Just some guy?
What's up?
You're some dumb guy?
Is that what this is yeah sure well there we have it it's just some dumb guy
all right that's it it's over
see you guys next Thursday
huh see you guys next thursday what i have to deal with silly
silly things i have to deal with all right guys um All right, guys. Um,
um,
and now I conjure forth.
I conjure forth. Go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go. It's your birth day.
We're gonna party like it's your birth day.
We're gonna sip a carding like, it's your birth day.
And you know we don't give my fucking That's your birthday
You'll find me in the club
A bottle full of bub
Look money
I got the ex
I'm gonna take my drugs
I mean I have sex
I ain't gonna make a love
So come give me a hug
You get in a rough
You can find me in the club
bottle full of bub
Look my eye I got that
I'm gonna take the drugs
I'm gonna having sex
I ain't into making love
So come give me a hug
You get in the getting rough
When I pull up out front
You see the bins on duff
When I row 20 deeps
It's 29 in the club
Niggas
Nurt I fuck
A dray
Now they want to show me
Love
When you shout like
M and them
And a huff
They want to fuck
The homie
Ain't none
You can't
Hold down
G's up
I see exhibit
In the
Cudet nigger Roll that weed up yeah my cult
yes my cult members
only a cult members only a cult
like this
would be up at 2 a.m.
Let us all
channel
the cult power of infrared
the cult the infrared cult the infrared cult
the orb the infrared orb the globe
it's a source of power
cult like power everyone must blindly obey power. Cult-like power.
Everyone must blindly
obey. All must obey.
Osos!
What's going on? Osos.
He gifted to Joe
Biden. This is a
cult-like power.
All blind, complete blind obedience.
Two plus two is five.
What a profound cult.
See, infrared is a very spiritual thing.
It's like a religion.
It's not ACP is like the actual
serious.
You know, it's like, it's like the mech.
CJ!
That's what I'm talking about. CJ. It's like it's like the mech cj that's what i'm talking about cj it's like acp is like the mech it's like a giant powerful robot.
It's like very serious. It's very formal. It's very
like infrared
it's like infrared.
It's like infrared vision that's needed to guide this powerful machine just like this the same thing with infrared and cp USA that we dreamed. It's the same thing with ACP.
Do you understand? Schizo autism
Sorry, somebody just shared something funny.
Eating shit.
Nobody ever...
Remember the eating shit meme?
Nobody ever... nobody ever used it
when I had my last
literally the last debate I ever had
when I talked about people eating shit
nobody ever clipped it and put it
on TikTok.
It's fucking crazy.
It's insane.
Hey,
Give me one second.
Fuck, I can't believe how late it is.
It's pretty freaking late guys.
Like shit.
Damn, it is late. You know, You know, Amila with the 10.
Holy moly.
I think that's my cue to end the stream, right?
Although it's been so fun.
So, so fun. I have so fun.
I have so many TikToks I need to make
but I got a right. I got to make but i got to write i got to write i got to finish my
writings guys what am i going to do i have so much to juggle so much to deal with also i'm coming to Florida next month
like one month from now I'm going to go to Florida
I'm going to visit Florida chapter
by the way was that guy
who was crying about Jan 6 real?
Was that a real guy?
Was that a joke?
I don't even know.
Do you guys...
Once of you actively use TikTok.
Once of you like enjoy TikTok if you actively use TikTok, ones if you like enjoy TikTok,
you actually use it.
Yeah, not a lot of you are on tic-tok huh instagram is better okay i have another question
ones if you guys actually came from Instagram like that's your origin as
Instagram people
because there's a weird Instagram
deep state
I met a strange
Instagram deep state
no
not Instagram YouTube no not instagram youtube i need a fucking upload on youtube i need a fucking upload on youtube so fucking badly holy shit I need to upload on YouTube big time I need an editor.
I need good content.
You know what's disgusting is that if I just, when I travel, all I need to do is
Vlog, vlog, and like, I could make some viral ass YouTube.
It's just that, like, I can't be the guy carrying a fucking selfie stick and like filming shit
you know what I mean
I can't do that but I
have to get a cameraman yeah yeah they're not if i had that that'd be different but that would be i
i only have an acp team I don't have an infrared team.
And frankly, ACP has two little resources by itself.
I don't want to take from ACP for infrared.
Um... for infrared.
What I actually, there are infrared people that are not
that are from like Twitch.
Like I have editors
and stuff that like are not that political even.
They just liked me because like they found me entertaining.
And I could tap into that more for infrared stuff, honestly.
Um... stuff, honestly. Oh I feel bad for everyone Who is not here I feel like I feel bad for everyone who is not here.
I feel like I feel bad for everyone who misses out on this great community.
We're not a community.
I hate that word because it's like so sedentary.
We're a law
we are a law
we are a law
you should push
communism isn't woke It just sounds so fucking boring.
That's the problem the thing we should push is
uh
tartaria
honestly
I don't know.
Look, I feel like there's a vibe that I'm feeling.
I'm feeling this vibe.
I'll just tell you the vibe I've been feeling.
The vibe I've been feeling is Metal Gear Solid,
like this whole idea of like a... The diamond dogs.
Like we're...
We're an army loyal to nothing and no one except ourselves.
Super-based.
Metal Gear Solid.
I'll include like Death Stranding in there.
Death Stranding too, Kojima. there Death Stranding 2 Kojima
It's like that whole
Kojima thing
Tartaria
The Kisselbos
Anatolian
Nomadic
Warrior bands
Sabretooth Tiger
Pleistocene
Hyper American
type of vibe
um that's the type of shit i've been thinking about you know that's the type of vibe i've been on
and iraq like babylonia uh you know a syria
type of shit like i've been on this type of vibe you know um
that's the whole vibe
can you react to my ogre?
No, I can't.
I just like the aesthetic.
Honestly, look, can I be real?
Like, I can't fucking say this.
It's like so bad.
But the reason Kojima's aesthetics are so on point, it's like the military aesthetic.
Like military realism aesthetic, super powerful, okay?
Um, you got to think like... Okay.
You got to think like...
You got to think in that way.
Because the military creates all technology.
Remember that.
All technology comes from the military.
It's like Frederick Jameson, you know?
That's a dangerous, powerful pill.
But it's like,
um, the idea of like
the military as a machine
and
hijacking that machine
it's like super powerful
you know
yeah like
Ibrahim Trieria
that's exactly what I'm
fucking talking about
it's like there's a really
big pill there
you know
like infrared special forces
ACP special forces
like it's super based
to think about
yo can I share you okay can I share you? Okay, can I tell you guys some shit that's like I'm super serious about, but I haven't had the time yet to implement it? It's ACP related. Just like,
I've been thinking about it.
I'm just telling you I've been thinking about it, okay?
So, you know, the reserve
cadre distinction
is really important.
It's important that when you become a cadre...
Right now, the only benefit of being a cadre
is that you don't have to pay dues,
which I like.
I like that system a lot.
I think it's a great system.
I like the idea of it.
I love the concept behind it.
But, depending on how things go, you know, we at leadership, and I mean including the CC, we may discuss that again because we
don't really have finances
right now to be honest
as a party
right so it's like
could that change in the future
I don't know
it definitely would not be imposed from the top down, you know.
It would be something the whole party would discuss.
Like, we would not just do that shit.
We would not take you guys, like, blind and just, like, force that kind of change,
you know?
We would have a party-wide discussion and definitely, like,
have everyone involved
and make sure, like,
you know, whatever.
But one of the things um i've thought about for the cadre reserve distinction that could be super meaningful
and again it's not like i could just like impose this either.
I have to float it to the CC and we have to talk about it.
What I like, though, and I talk to the EB, the EB likes it, what I like is this idea that we have dog tags for cadre how fucking sick would that be we get fucking dog tags
maybe it could like there could even be like a code on it that's tied to the the blockchain
or some shit but like that sounds so fucking cool. That goes so hard.
That goes so hard. Like, if I could have my own ACP dog tags. Like, when you become cadre,
you get the dog tags. You know what I mean?
It's like, it's so cool.
It's so low key.
It's like, you don't even necessarily have to wear it.
You just have it.
It's like, you know what I mean?
That's pretty cool.
And we could, and we could probably connect it to the forum.
Because in the forum that we're building, everyone's going to be having a username.
So it's like, you could have those names on your dog tags.
We could all have call signs.
Like, we could all have call signs.
Like, we could all have, like, I don't know.
There's a lot of exciting things.
I mean, that's, like, so small and minor, but it's, like,
it speaks to, like, the direction we're going in for the vibe. And it's, like, I love it.
Anyway, y'allall I'm gonna I'm gonna end the stream
but I'll see you Sunday
see you guys Sunday
also ACP we're doing an ACP
podcast I think I'm recording it
tomorrow with the guys.
So if you're, you know, we're going to give that a try, ACP podcast.
For YouTube.
Anyway, I'll see y'all.
See y'all. Bye. See you guys Sunday. Good, good stream.