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um

i'm rewatching some of your extreams i heard you got two hours of sleep to take care of yourself

yeah man it's been rough even last night i think the total i could have gotten was four last night

was for

um i have not i've been very sleep deprived yeah um yah it's fucking sluks

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but it's ok you know i'm saying we're roland we're still roland

was still one with the sun you know what i'm saying not complainin

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we're on that positivity

and there's no negativity inside no negative vibes the stream

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what's keeping you up so late

um

i don't know honestly i don't

i need take care man i really appreciate all your help man

m what a drunk driving socialist how's the divorce

it's feeling beautiful man i'm really glad

to get that shit off my chest finally you know

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random question why did some christians side with israel during the invasion of one nine hundred eighty two

that's a really long and complicated history

but the main reason was that

since the days of the french colonization

in lebanon

the

some of the elites of the merronite population

considered themselves basically western and superior to the rest of the

people in lebanon

and i

it's all part of that dialectic of coloniality and

you had israel on the one hand which was aligned with the united states and the west

and yeah they naturally were aligned with israel in that regard

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yeah it is

what do you think about texas

i've been there before i loved it

i loved austin texas i've been there in twenty fourteen

and i had a great time

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do you have any conspiracies on the beirut explosion that happened in two thousand and twenty

actually no i really honestly honestly god i think it was just a

an accident

is my view

you know

not not every big event you know is a conspiracy

but

i can see why people

are drawn to looking at it that way

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i have no idea why i can't stretch this the screen

um if you're asking about weird stuff i was wondering what do you think the deals larouche i'm really glad you asked that actually i want kind of want to talk about larouche a little bit

so

thanks for asking that

i then giving me an excuse we're going to talk a little bit about the rooche

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as soon as i can figure out how to

fix this fucking thing

and zoom

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this is ridiculous guys this is really ridiculous

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i don't understand

i think this is the best we're going to be able to do

honestly this is a

this is sad

this looks like the best we're going to be able to do for now you know i can't fix it

belarus not socialist at all

where's that coming from

whose bookchin is he worth googling

i haven't seen why i mean

i don't understand the bookchin craze i haven't

i'm not convinced that there's anything

worth looking at in bookchen maybe i'm wrong but

i haven't

i haven't seen it

personally speaking i haven't seen

i guess we're going to have to have be wide today you know i can't fix this

this this horrible

this horrible thing that doesn't allow me to

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can i resize it

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um

never lofi in the maors like fucky all am ount

texas is a third world country really

and i've only been to austin and i know

that it's not representative of

the state a all that's what everyone tells me um okay how's my mike today guys i kind of feel like i fixed my mike

you know my mike had some weird settings before and i tried to fix those

and so were

we're yeah we're on some new mike time

what do you think about national bolshevism

um

it was a complicated phenomenon in russia

but in general my view of national bolshevism

is that

it's a cope it's a type of liberalism everyone's going to say what do you mean it's a type of liberalism

well i think anything

anything that's going to be created by intellectuals

and which doesn't enter into a dialectic with the masses

and which only which and whose barrier to entry requires you to intellectualise in order to enter it

that is a quintessential form of liberalism

to me

at the end of the day it's going to be aligned with the liberal forces and i think that's why limon of was allied with the liberal opposition against putin

because putin for all his faults

did represent an element that came organically from the russian people

for better or worse you know those pensioners

i

that the the na national bolseviks

this was a kind of intellectual

um

trend a cultural trend uh uh you know

led by artists and led by people like that

and

yeah you're very right real nogeles are basically liberals and there's again there's a reason for that and

you know when you guys think of ediology i want you guys to start thinking about etiology

not just in terms of

its self proclaimed content but its actual material form

in reality and its material content

when something's barrier to entry

requires

when the only addresse

is

and i'an intellectual some kind and the barrier to entry

is going to um

require you to be initiated into some special culture

or something like that

you're basically dealing with a quintessential liberalism and

the reason for that is complex because liberalism

isn't about some specific ideology

based in certain thinkers from the

eighteenth century or something liberalism

refers to a specific relationship

between head and body between

the bourgeoisie which again remembers an urban reflexive and metropolitan class

and the masses

so that's why you end up with strange things like

ukrainian nazis allying with liberals or nosbels allying themselves with liberals

la sudro is a little bit interesting on liberalism i actually haven't read any of his books but i am familiar with his ideas

and i'm kind of divided i'm very divided about it

ya uh i al although i will credit pudemos with trying to get something off

i feel like perdemas at least was trying to go beyond this

but you're right you know ultimately another big example of this is very faucus is a guy who i kind of respect

but it's his d m twenty five which kind of

which is kind of subject to the same problems

russian nosbel was basically just a conter culture yeah yeah it was an edgy kind of punk rock

counterculture that's the extent of my familiarity with it

maybe i'm wrong

but i'm not an expert on russia

by any means

ah

so

what you guys thinks we check out the redit

actually i don't know if we should i should make my announcement onstream

actually

so i don't know if we have any new yeah the m e k is a good example too in iran

i don't know if we actually have any new viewers on twich

but if anyone's a new viewer on twitch

our channel got its initial boost

from a website called

lefty pol

and last stream

we made the decision and i checked it over with

the people in our group

and they were fine with it

i

basically we want a divorce with leftypoole we don't really want anything to do with that website it's kind of just brought

negativity on onto our stream that's completely unnecessary

and i think i feel like we've been too much neglecting

are positive supporters you know there's a lot of people who came to infrared

because they really liked those original videos from ours

and they wanted to they wanted to us to expand upon that and build upon that

and i think

we all understand now this this is the direction we now want to go on

you know

so we're going to be a little bit more serious i guess from you on now

but not too much not too serious but

definitely more than before you know

m why don't we check out the reding

and then after we check out the red it

i wanted to go check out the gametop hearing that's going on in congress and we can

we can see what's going on with that

what do you think about calab mopp and him being cozy with dogan i actually don't think he was cozy with dogan i just think he went and met

do then

another thing is that

dugan himself is not a nosebel

he used to be associated with the national bolseviks and the mono

and then he left im

um

jugen is an interesting guy

ah i don't i think people overestimate his political significance

i definitely don't agree with all of his ideas obviously we are marxist lenin is thatt infrared

so

he he takes a lot of liberties you know it

but

behind

jugin's

poetry and his interesting kind of metaphysical vision

we think there is a material type of kernel that he's trying to describe and you know there's there's kind of two ways you can look at someone like dougan

and i'm going to tell you which way infrared takes

one way to look at dogan is from the anglo perspective were bringing back to me ok but you guys know what i mean by this at this point

one of the ways you can look at him is you cand say doogan is speaking a bunch of nonsense when he's talking about all of that mythological and metaphysical

and um

and that uh

spiritual and whatever kind of

stuff and mystical things

it's just a bunch of meaningless nonsense you know you going to notice a trend of anglos that they're always going to say it's nonsense it's meaningless that guy does know what he's talking about

and actually here's something i find ironic i don't want to go on a tangent to another rant about anglos

but have you guys noticed an interesting paradox

isn't it the case that ninety nine percent of the time

people who don't know what they're talking about are exactly the ones who are just repeating definitions and repeating what other people have said before

i mean

isn't that really what's going on with that

because to me someone who just repeats what they've read before or what other people are saying

doesn't actually know what they're talking about

they're just repeating it because it's a tried and tested thing

that's gotten popularity

based on other people saying it so they repeated in a new way it's established and legitimated in universities so they feel it's safe to repeat

these tried and tested

cliches and

these platitudes these intellectual platitudes and then you find these

intellectuals you know they they get a pass they pass them off as oh he does know what he's talking about because he you know when people say do they know what they're talking about they're actually just referring to

are they familiar with what other people are saying

right

are they familiar with what other people are saying

and just because infrared doesn't repeat what other people are saying

people come to think

that were not actually familiar with that

but this is a really big fucking mistake we are familiar with what other people are saying

and if what we are saying contradicts them or deviates from them or is different from them

it's actually based

on an explicit re it it's like on the surface there's a reason for that it's because we actually disagree with the platitude and what

with what all these academic intellectuals in in the party line a what they're saying

you know

don't you think

that someone who doesn't know what they're talking about

wouldn't say what we say

they would say what's they would say things that do get a pass they would say things that no one would bat an eye at

because this is how it works especially on you tube

you reads a definition somewhere or you read something some one else has said

and you feel confident in being able to repeat it because that person

who had their skin in the game

was received

positively

so you feel like if you say you'll be received positively to

that's how you can tell

if someone doesn't know what they're talking about

if someone knows what they're talking about they're going to be able to explain things to you in a way that you're unfamiliar with

m

the manner of expression is not going to be familiar to and that's because they do know the deeper essence of the thing

they can put it into new words that's the only fucking test

of whether someone knows what they're talking about or anything you know

and i think one of the reasons it triggers me so much

is because i don't come from an academic background

you know and i

really i don't

i don't get the kind and i don't look for it i don't seek it

but

my approach does not get the same constant validation

that these intellectuals do

i don't get the you know the professor giving me a pluses on papers

saying oh you know you you got it right it's like this kind of pavlovian

training where

if you just say

a established platitudes someone's going to give you an a on the paper or someone on line is going to shower you with praise and i've never gotten

i don't think that real that validation the only validation i get is on a very personal level

when on a personal level

someone gets me you know someone understands what i'm trying to say

and it's usually another individual of some kind

you know

and uh

when people kind of dismiss

what i say is meaningless and say it's a

that i don't know what i'm talking about it does trigger me it triggers me because

it's like

this is the only kind of

response i'm getting

from these people who are established in gden

credentials credentials and stuff you know

so

i guess i shouldn't care as much as i do and i shouldn't get as triggered as i do you know

i've been thinking about that i probably shouldn't get as triggered as i do from it

it shouldn't bothers me as much as i is much as it does you know

um

let's see yeah it's a petty booze one movement i would definitely agree with that

funny because a lot of dou ins this with youiric stuff comes from anglos

well it depends on which not everything from the united kingdom is necessarily anglo in the sense that i'm trying to say

but

you know there's contradictions a lot of things that come from the united kingdom

inadvertently subvert and undermine what i call anglo thinking

you know and actually oftentimes it does

it just depends from where the nozzles that i am but i'm not saying chaos magic does that but

i don't really think chaos magic is the pinnacle of dugan's esotericism

it all of that stuff comes from madam blovatsky and those type of people

from the early twentieth century

and i think he's kind of building off of that

then asbs

are basically just soviet nationalist national communist types

i guess that's fine you know that's fine

it depends on who you know the word nosble refers to different things

is does using the anglo lang language limit our thinking

i think it can honestly maybe just

i think it can yeah because

i don't have the same issue with

people who don't speak english

as their first language

oftentimes

isn't nledgeable just fascism by a new name

i don't think so i think fascism is only decisive

as a meaningful label

when they take chauvinistic anti immigrant positions

and i'm not sure that all nosms do

you have to know what you're talking about to detect someone who is repeating other people's words

exactly yeah

exactly

um

right nosbel surfascees

i don't think so

i think liberalism is root in individualsm its logical conclusion is out of that's a big part of it definitely a big part of it

limon of is you at least fascist adjacent

i'm not sure i think

you know you're going to come to a point where fascists

anarchist and trotskys are all going to coalesce

and i know that's what they say about us tankys and marxist leninists

but

i think our perspective when we say that is materialistic all of those people coalesce because they occupy the same class position

in this fpear of

theory and consciousness

as it relates to the masses

both fascism liberalism and

national bolshevism are rooted in a kind of individualistic romanticism

that posits itself against the popular sense

uh a lot of people think fascism is this kind of

mass phenomenon

in it's organically it's a mass phenomena but nothing could be further from the truth ok

fascists portray themselves as mass phenomena

certainly

but

well that's another issue with anglo thinking it's confusing appearance with essence

exactly people also forget about the german nation yeah that was a different in but they were also just intellectuals again it's the same kind of issue

the thing that proves whether something is an authentic

socialist or communistic whatever phenomenon

is if it's a dialectic which means you have intellectuals on the one hand but then you have masses

who are spitting out

a response that the intellectuals could not have preemptively defined the parameters of

it's based on this back and forth dialectic that defines an authentic revolutionary

or communistic

organization

you had that with the bolsheviks in regards to the russian proletariat

and then later with regard to the russian peasantry

and the soviet state was defined by that kind of encounter with

the broad majority of russian peasants

it's always the thing that it makes in an organization

not simply petite bourgeois intellectuals is that they are able to respond

to what the masses are spitting out back to them you know you tell the asses one thing they're going to spit out something back at you

then you have two options

you can be a trotskyist and a bitter buthurd guy who says the masses are stupid and they're fascists

and they're settlers and they should read sickai or you going to respond to how they respond to you and learn in distill the deeper eps essence of that

you know you always have two options

a friend of mine w telling me

about how booted judge is a product of

yeah yeah it's the ultimately all the people who call me nonsense and all that kind of stuff they're the culmination of the peope budh to judg mentality

it's really sad

um

it's really sad

are they unrelated to the modern russian ones maybe

maybe organizationally unrelated but intellectually they're kind of related

the neozarist neoslaviast collectivest types aree the fascist or fishistic in nature

well again i' like to just focus on

the money right

are they chilvnistic against the migrants who are it's a real phenomena that come into russia that's where i think the whole fascism thing is decisive

even if someone's personally has backward views

on sexual minorities and even on women

it's not enough to define an organization in a decisive way

because

you have to because there's always a deeper reason why they assume those reactionary cultural positions

if an organization

focuses its time

on hating gay people

there's a deeper reason for that it's never just the homophobia or whatever right that's why until intersectionalism is the biggest bull should ever

um

what about alan moore's magic

i'm not familiar with it

anglo thinking what ocelon calls positivistic modernism i'm not familiar with ocelon's usage

but i that sounds

about correct the left nobles are national communists mixed with some soviet nationalism and some kurism regarding religionl

yeah i mean

conservatism is one thing

but the

anti gay hunts by these russian nyonazis that's another thing entirely you know

m

marx was not a hegelian

marx was well it depends on what you mean marx surpassed hegel in a sense

but

a lot of people will try and argue that marx went backwards from hegel and that marx actually

returned to

seventeenth century metaphysics and that was his materialism

actually no so march was a hagelian in a sense

i

so english comes with an inherent idiogyo i think that's a little bit paranoid

but as the way the english language is used today in today's world yes

hugenizivola adjacent yeah he's adjacent to all the neo traditionalist including uh

reneg gnan and all that kind i'm a hospital

talking about a guy who said he did icy weedt

i'm a nosle without the ns saying i gs do say is nobll hoy shit i think only from an abstract idiological perspective can you say that

i'm not really a guy who's always talking about all ju shae ju sha but

i think it's a little bit

's overstretch

can't see your chat over your window by the way

oh yeah the my actual windouw explain why it's bullshit

what' sport oh that

hold on one second turn the lights

um

it's bullshit because

it's very clear that

a lot of fake materialiss

were superimposing

their own views on to marx when they were interpreting marx's materials break from hedel

alex is here awesome

wikipedia is the final stage of anglo's domination

we could bete is a good resource for

just getting up

what's up alex are you doing man

basically it's a good rear we're going to gt the zone by the way afu

sorry

we're a little bit wide today because the new streaming software i'm using

i can't adjust the window at all

it's not letting me

so we're stuck being a little bit wide

um

yeah

just a fun fact

oh wait it does work

working

hold on see if we can do this

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transform we're going to check out the read it in one second

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fit to screen

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hey you can do it like this

were do i get the sweet spot

for resizing it

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right here

it is

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there you go is a sweet spot

i think this is the best we're going to be able to do

yeah this is

this is the best we're going to do

i wouldll no longer wide

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what's that

looked kind of weird

who does

the screen i mean

yeah

i'm trying to resize it right now i

there's like a sweet spot somewhere but

yes not

oh i'll do with it you know like the there's like a black never mind

it's like a black spot

the more i read about youju shay the more confused i become

what's very specific to

korea north korea

lysenko what abot him

my sincle jushe is in nausible yeah

how are you going to say lisinkle was a scientific genius because he was

yu

a

he was dude

you recovered your anglo schull structure

licinle was right to just get over it

i

yeah

i can't believe people still don't

understand iy cink was right in twenty twenty one like people still think genes are real in twenty twenty one will fucking idas

h segart there's nothing here in uh like

scientific

or whatever evolutionary psychology in all this porshit

the's not oh that's another story that's like

on a

that's like on the tenth layer of stupid wolshit

before they can get into evolutionary psychology they have to

give us sources no i'm not going to give you sources

rephrase your question because that's a really anglle question give us a cite your sources

now it's good

why doesn't this work

i got to open it

and then'll work

i'm trying to show you guys the ready

but it's looked like

this is being a little bit uncooperative in oor move this

and more this and i'm going to add a new window

window capture

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jeans aren't real yeah they aren't

sorry

how can i read about the c b c position of liicenco as an english speaker

does the c p c have an official position

i'm not actually sure they do

i think

and i'm not sure if the c p c has an official position

at all

i see

a i've never heard of that

i just know that in china he's not demonized like how they do in the west

and china a lot of chinese scientists take itm seriously and in russia

especially in russia

yeah

uyes you know the thing about when people talk about science do you guys know that scientific communities are different in different countries

it's your you have to trace everything back to the institution

you know

always trace it back to the

to

because that's what we're really talking about

talking

sry

talking about certa

grandchilds in

what's your pinion of drugs

stay clean dude

has thoughts in your position of potato chips in a communist society

sory you saying that china treats

him completely different the west that' what i meant ok

yeah yeah

yeah

i could show you a

something written in english in that was published in nature

an english

scientific publication

chinese scientists defending my s

debate libertarianss rights sure

right

my single was actually partly right

like at the time

epig yeah i mean the licencal debate

was never finished

is the problem

and but people treated like it was finished

because watson and cricket or whatever

discovered the d n a

but the d n a was not the gene that was relevant to the debate

that bmy sincle was having

i

uh

genes are very arbitrary a former b yeah exactly

that's what i mean by janes aren't real you know

i understand it means different things

people actually working with them in a practical way and they call those genes but i reject the view that those are the genes

the mandeliion jeans is my

you know

what do you think about terar forming earth

why

sing was like sixty percent wrong but is right about a lot more people gret i don't know dude

i just feel like i agree with le sencs paradigm of how he looks at biology

in general

and i feel like that's

very much overbook

on today

all right let's check this out

we're going to read more about la single

what's that book we shared in the discord i shared a book that

oh

was covering the debate somem

what's that

it was a long time ago

yet you remember the right

ah i remember you put out something but i can't remember the name

just pump in the middle of australia for water

well my nose a little bit stuffy i'm going to have to

well le's just checkut the redy

right um

oh wait i just put this here forgot to have two screens

talking god damnit you

i'm so fucking sick of this webcam i'm so fucking sick of it

every foking time d always foking falls

such that i just bought it to the web caam stand

i just bought it dude

good

damn

it's so fucking annoying how it does that

i

most western marxis worship western science i know the

but they don't understand that

what people mean by science is actually institution

i

it there it's not referring to some

you know

some sacred type of metaphysical knowledge

it's referring to

things that are credentialed and accepted by a network of institutions

that doesn't make them wrong

by itself

but

the problem is that people treat it like it's some holy truth

and it's not

you know institutions

there can be party lines that institutions hold

that aren't right

and or are held for arbitrary and

you know non scientific reasons

that are in essential to the

pircle whatever discovery whatever

infraredo was t

sagg is a p s

see and he's in my stream because he's a glow we say is a p s we aleds you see me i was singing yesterday i was singing and then i immediately became enraged

because w's where did you learn to sing though

it's actually kin of good

sut the fuck up du you honest i can't sing at all dude i didn't learn to sing any anywhere

i just is off the otto my ass

you sometimes you're so angry you just have to see

science to the west means multiple tests in a lab with a lot of empirical data which is not

case

yeah exactly

i

and the whole problem with it in the west is that it's mediated through the press

and the press is reporting on the what the scientists are actually doing in practical terms

they're spinning it in a way to get clicks

and

that leads to a lot of stupidity to

this is a

i wish one day when we get big someone will like add

music

a background and make this a real

see joe biden's press sx se

president dd last night whent on the air and said that they'd arrested multiple people who were allegedly behind a coup that was backed by the united states

what is your response

a these latest accusations like all previous act such accusations are ludicrous

is you going to mention russia with the ss w s's going to mention russia

see mention rush a wait

as a matter of long standing policy the united states does not support political transitions by non constitutional means political transitions must be democratic constitutional peaceful and legal s has a long standing practice

promoting what did you say

how longstanding is that in particular in south and latin america

that is not a long standing practice

poor girl and poor poor woman i mean

sorry

poor woman

this is my final boss what is this

dude another image aoard come on

full metal come on

for that

oh yeah le this is the p s a in case you guys are don't want me to read it again

um

so

uh okay let me just sum this up t o d r

we know the majority of people from leftyo poole like us

are at least that's our suspicion we can't i don't know if we can prove it per se but it's it's our experience

but there's a really lot

sorry gohead

they didn't make a poll

yeah there was a something like us

yeat that there was a poll as well

but a loud minority has done nothing but wine seee and complain about us

and we're just sick of the we're sick of this idea that

we're using lefty pool and we need left

cool

and that

you know

we're we're somehow trying to take over the web

i just don't think it's worth it i don't really care about let

i really thought the admin was very kind to us on twitter

he was really nice and

he was a really cool guy

but

speaking for the community on lefty poole that keep saying we're trying to

you know

i feel like they're using us

like

they're parasitizing us off of us

because to me it seems like those image boards are very boring in they're really dead environments

and we were we were something to talk about

new something new to talk about

and

i kind of feel like

maybe they should just leave us alone

not that not the

the good people

we're talking

about who have been supported

but all those people complaining and seething and whining about us

i just want to say like dude

i don't really care about your website

i'm not really here to

care about winning youll

you know like

i could literally care less

if

lefty ple never talked about us ever

and

because i know for a fact infrareds you know grown no matter what

sage gots banned again

that's nice

but sages us one guy you know we're talking about a lot of the hostility

i don't think

we ever will

succeed and

winning over

enough people on lefty pool

to be able to counteract

the organic tendency to just hate on us

that comes from the minority

chap which ill be more funny because ratli types

get suck

would suck still in the end

speaking of english this is an abstract language or axmtic language it makes wassy difficult to learn because of english is robotics

very true

very true

really hard to construct new words and

that's also

and there's an illusion in english

well we have to know we're talking when we speak english we're talking about technical or official english

now vernacular english is a different story

technical english

official english

formal english

pretends like its meaning is already predefined the words are already predefined

but in the actual use of the english language on the everyday street level in common use of the english

which

that actually isn't how the language works

because like any other language

human beings are the ones speak

not robots

on to the

to the horror and to the to

enragement even a people like

jeff bazos and mark zuckerberg

who are very robotic

anti human people

they would they hate the fact that there's living human beings

defining leny

they want everyone to be a robot they want ai they want everyone to be an ai

thoughts on unwar she

will you forgive me if i say i forgot who that is

i know who that is but

i forgot

that

sorry

i haven't hit a lot of sleep

all remember what is

what up

ta has

real politics are you

yeat so

we also speculated that

it's a little bit weird how persistent people were to try to drown us out on that website

it seems like

people were scared that

people were having interest in us and the

wanted people to say stuck in the endless cycle of

image board misery and you know sterility

and

basically infrared

is looking from a perspective that's

beyond these image boards

it's beyond what can be contained as image words we're not here to really win over

the loser left

and all these dog matic people i don't really care about these people

i would much rather

have

our audience be addressed

to curious people

like

jimmy door's audience

this new wave

of people interested in left wwing

politics

who actually don't carry the baggages and prejudices and dogmas

of the left that has existed for the past ten

ten years

i think the left that's established that

dominates

places like lefte pole it seems

i

they're basically a dead end you know they're they're they're old

they're too old we want something more young

you know not terms of

like there to their age

don't gt

twisted

in terms of like

they're an old trend

you know

what's up ben tll how you doing man

plus

i

yes so what else do you want to say

yeah and i know if you want not my advice personal dedvice

i personally don't really see the value

of dwelling and lurking on these image boards

dark image boards

and i'm not just saying oh you know join our discord as an alternative

i maybe there you shouldn't really

have an alternative

maybe instead of

you know going on these image boards

you shouldn't

look towards

these other leftists as the incestual community

that you have commonality

you know because they don't represent anything in society they don't actually represent

you know

even the young turks might represent something real in society

but

lefty pol and bunker chan and all these image boards

they don't actually represent anything going on in the real world

at all

they just represent

weird do

sorry to say

and

and no offense to

people have left

would you what do you mean like

so do you mean like al gore ralph nader politics

a what's the context i what you're asking

i think le you wll just wants to make the whole earth the uus a soar

no i don't think that's what they want at all i think they just want to

w well in their position of

the being above

feeling like they're above

all of society

that's what it seems like to me

he who shall not be named no name him says yeah he has a maiden appearance

it's ok if he makes an appearance i'm just going to time him out

because ultimately

uh he

you know we are the ones in control here

so

he's just going to be timed out if i see him

she go outside instead of going on image wards i completely agree jessee i completely agree with that

you know

whatever time you're using to spend on image boards is better spent literally doing anything else

you don't have to watch our streams

or go on or discord on

but you're literally your time is spent doing

i'm from the jimmy dor and kill mob and crowd captain delicious

we love you dude you're exactly the type of person

infrared

has in mind

you're literally the type of person we have in mind

you said left goal is a dead end

yeah but what does that have to do with al gore and ralph nader

i kind of like ralph nader

a little bit

you know i like i feek i feel like i like ralph nader a little bit more than burnie

i feel like ralph

was too much of a beautiful soul

but

ultimately his mind was in the right place his heart was in the right place

it's just that

a

he was a little bit too

too early

you know like

maybe right now we should be returning to ralph nader's

thing

ho

it was a little too early to the show

two thousand

oh no alexander i'm thinking more post occupy

i

i think occupy wall street was definitely the thing that

responsible for the current lefts incarnation

i

left popole just want their special it seems like it it definitely seems like they just want to dogmatic safe space

and that's fine

these

people who hate us seem like

really anti social

degenerate

anti human type

and i don't want

there's

i don't want them

heaven

so i think we can both agree that we can you

in une

take our separate ways and they can do what they've been doing for many years and infrared will continue to grow

and will

conineue to expand

and i have no doubt whatsoever that we will

reclaim

we will double the amount of whatever amount of viewers left people was giving us

we're going to double that without left

i'm completely convinced of that

i

literally an m l m revolution right now is more viable than

m

already

i'm going to go blowing thse breback

a

ok

so

oh by the way tell me in the tread of mine my quality is good because last time was kind of fucked up

i don't know why

like i bought this new mike kind of feel like a podcaster right no i don't know last time it was kind of shitty i don't know

's good

yeah

great

nader was bas

yeah he was pretty base

he does get it yeah he was based

i thought how he was big on the pmc environmentalist

i'm very suspicious of the environmentalist obsessed

and

and maybe this is where we can talk a little bit about the rouche

now i think luhi is kind of a

assole and a lot of regards

he's kind of a little bit of a

american chauvinist in

you know

maybe his views changed but

he's definitely scared of the

eastern metaphysical

specter you know and not i don't have a better string of words

for example

larouche would describe people like hafz al a said

as drw's magicians he would always pathologize

eastern leaders

and phenomenon

in terms of

depraved a cultic

you know

dirty

pre modern traditions and stuff and the reason the rooch would do that is because

he is the like he represents the threshold

of american universal americanism

right

and americanism

a

americanism is the last

form of the foreclosure of being

culminating in pragmatism

right

la rouche kind of looks at

russia

this was in the eighties at least

he looks at

different countries and it scares the shit out of

it's the resputan syndrome

you know the problem the things with

yeah the thing with some

america

thing with americani ism is that

it doesn't oppose communism because it views communism is too universalistic

standard in uniform

american

idiology

hates communism because of respote

because they associate communism with a dirty particularities

of oriental

there are to particular

to

substantial

so

that's my beaf ls ok

all that aside though

i do kind of agree with the luchia tape

on environmentalism

i think lus is right

think uh

ultimately environmentalism is based in a class of social engineers

who want to

m

impose

something on

all of society they're going to fail in doing it

it's not even that i oppose the plans of bill gates and all these types of people

i just think

they're going to fail environmentalists are failures they're not going to win over the people in their country

winning over people

is the only fucking measure of success you can have

as far as implementing or having any kind of victory

scaring people is not going to work if you keep telling people we're all going to die

well we all are going to die one day so

you've got to have a little bit more of actual reason for living

then just fear mongering about the death of the planet in the extinction of humanity

and you scraw it seems like you scratch

some of these extinction rebellion people

and you're going to find egenesis you're going to find racists you're going to find people

wol

lose sleep at night knowing that the population of india

in other parts of

africa

sor and other parts of asia and the african continent

are growing

and they lose sleep over the they hate this idea that other people

are just persisting you know marx talked about this a

he talked about how the bourgeois intellectual class

was

disgusted and how the this

just the fact of this

fact that people were

you know

being born at this constant rate they found it so revolting

i

and marx wrote something very specific about this he know he commented on

part of the kind of anti

human

h

that liberalism

and world we live in

there are many kinds of environmentalism

i just think any

reference to the environment that's unmediated by

human meaning

and what i mean by that is that

just ok let's save the environment the people

who are necessary to do it don't matter

i think it's bound to be a vanity and it's even kind of crip

fashion

i

macron's gas tax exactly that's a beautiful example alexander

that's an excellent example the mcron's gas tax

that's

ultimately what this environmentalism seems to amount

is mcro

this type of anti popular anti people

eugenics pro eugenic sen

i

i'm

no one on the left recognizes that eugenesis

and corporats have asked for obscen environmental

they absolutely have

they absolutely have

and it's a shame that many leftists are siding with bill gates against the people rightfully

calling out that bull

yeah mauth thusianism is definitely something very prevalent on

today's left

bread tube is very malfluian

breds you always talks about the threat

and

infinite growth in the finite world you know

this reaks to me of basic malfucian

they might not directly be calling for e genicism but

s you know push them hard enough and you'll feel they'll be

it's only for moralizing reason that they're not eugenesis but

their way of looking at the world is fundamentally genesis

a

environmental is a deep love for the environment a deep hatred of humanity

seems like

a lot of it is

it is that

i totally agree with that environmentalism is a range focus on anti humanism

i

how would you deal with environmental concerns

well

i feel like countries like china are very well equipped

to deal with environmental concerns they

they can be dealt with definitely

but you can't do so in a way where you could just skip

the people part and there's a reason china is the people's republic of china

only a people's republic

can deal with this problem

you can't just skip the people and tell them or you're going to die if you don't listen to me

it's not how a fucking works

i

a

can you splain the connection between environmentalism and eugenics

well the basic idea is that humans are polluting our beautiful planet and we need less humans

a and we yeah

i feel like it'san interesting point maybe

costens some t different kinds of environmentalism

sure

i mean i'm not dogmatic

i am open to the fact

be

eugene has a blog by the way

interest

it's a way to squeeze the words of the poort mous onma people mathugan

thoughts on chris hedges

i have somewhat positive thoughts on him

on

markell's nuclear ban that made germany depend on coal

assorment don't work in gloom place

little wen

i'm not convinced we can move beyond

a

we can move beyond

a

fossil fuel

and oil

i'm just not convinced

can we have a marxist eugenics no

simply not

you can't

i

the idea of trying to premise

uh some

people being born in that kind of way

a

is impossible for very

specific

i don't know

i kind of have a brain for right now but i do have a take on this

i do have a specific theoretical take on why

i maaterials dialected position cannot be eugenesis

but i'm just

y my head is on

they're better

michola

good

and

chris is an anarchist

oh is he i didn't know that

you have fug green new deal no involvement of indigenous nations

there's other problems with it environmental concerns need to be made

ah

yeah

that everyone seems to really interested in the whole environmentalism

how does lwing population relate to jennics i mean genocidal

no i eugenics yes artificial selection

that's basically a

basically

choosing who gets to be born and who does

population

you know

it's weird how i never made a connection between environmental genics until now

yeah

the land needs to be given back to people yeah that's our take du

that's definitely that's our take of what socialism is

eugene also thinks china is part of the new world genesis order

i don't really agree with that i think china' is a people's

public

a nuclear can do it but the oil lobby

hates it

y have

i'm not sure of nuclear can replace well i don't know

but i do agreed nuclear is probably being underutilized

i'm just not sure if you can fully replace oil

but maybe you can i don't know i'm not an exper

mater

okay uh sorry let's continue to the right

i we can refresh it now

i

when infrared is talking about chan

whath this is something from

for

i it kind of looks like fortham

right so basically he's saying

the problem is that

the losers who have no lives are

over representing the community

and i agree with that

it's just that

i wonder to what extent chan culture an image board culture

is responsible for that

and i think this guy

i agree

but i don't

i don't want to dwell too much on

i kind of want to stay away from left

cool but

tonmbs up

how many tears are you on

yeah this one was so funny and i think tomorrow or saturday we're going to do a based

version we're going to be like

the most base type of leftists

in general like in the world's going to be have to be global because there's not enough americans who are based

to fit this list but there are going to be americans included

it's going to be low though

watch to instantly die

the soviet union was oh i've seen this video actually i've watched this this video before and i think it's incredibly fucking stupid i think it's just fucking stupid

the whole christian thing is like

where did that come from dude feel i feel like that's your thing

this is a dumb video

everyone put in hards

who would you like

guston call her daddy

m

dude'm not i'm not uppording that

i don't support that right a moment

that

and i

i'm not apologizing for that

you're not the ready guys

yeah not a pothering be hosky i don't know i this is

but i'll

no it's drunk driving i'm not doing the drunk driving

eric prince working for myanmar

junta

what is this

that

oh interesting

tak it out

it's interesting

the video is nurving its

thirty sixty stop to miles from brian mo

are you sending this me because i need a new p c

still still don't have a new one no

store

peak anglo socialism

i never know exactly how to make my opinion clear

because i object to punishment whatsoever

i know how to punish anybody but the

try to not a number of people who might want to kill

and not in any unkind or personal spirit

but it must be evident to all of you you must all know half a dozen people at least

who are no use in this way

far more trouble than they are wth

and that

i think it would be a good thing

to make everybody come before a properly appointed board

just as he might come before the income tax commissioner and say every five years or every seven years

just put him there and say that now you'll be kind enough to justify you

that is a peak anglo socialism

i see how they treat me like that i feel like they they're getting to that point

justify

to me

with axiomatic systemic

logicistic

logic change or something some kind of proof

that you are alive and if you and if you can't do that then you should just die

it's so fucking absurd

these people are the type who are like

before i can call my mother my mother

she has to prove it to me with axiomatic logical

proof it's like dud

you

you know where you came from right like

you crawled out of there dude you're like you're right from there

humble yourself

pulling your weight in the so b if you're not producing as much as you consume of less more then clearly we cannot use the big organization of our society for the purpose of keeping youman ight because your life does not benefitus and it can't be of very much us

yeah dude the maine mar

the mind more i already watch someone

we hit a clip of triggered and sing as yet i don't know anything about my andm was going on

no idea

and

yeah i don't know what that is

please invite

think in g

tweeted at him

he tagged me i think

this is a cool intro

ah yeah we already see it seen all the rest smith

oh wow notice lis interesting

alright

he was going to watch the strew

i'm ok come la right the fate above is in our hands no matter how many of my people you put in the grove sorry i was watching a stralian as want to finishes

sorry one said it's just over in a minute

fail kill them oh

some zero

kinda wins you fucking beauty

it looks super cool

how do you guys think we're going to check out the games stop thing going on

in congress

um

there is something going on

cons ya would like

yeah there's a testimony that's being given

in congress

oh it's already over

and it was five hours

watch lawmakers grill robin hood ce o

ok le's sit dow

apartments dot com

i don't have a blocker yet

h

yeah

check it ot

b

isn't it true that being concerned about capital to meet deposit requirements isn't that a liquidy problem a gould you just answer yes or no

chairwoman waters i appreciate the opportunity these are basically like the bread and circuses of american politics where politicians get on camera and they act all tough and they grill all these people

just a look good for the cameras but then behind closed doors they basically getting on their knees and there

you know

yeah

yeah the robinod c your testimony on congress

be to address that

we always felt comfortable with our liquidity and the additional robin hood rerase answer yes or no

we always felt motter this is this is like guinseyat ginsey

are you going to come honey

yes or no

wyre and

this is like ginzi giz it's always like

mhm

i don't have time i just need a yes and no answer

i i stick by my statement

the additional capital we raised was int to meet capital requirements or deposit

it's ust me

i'm replaming my task do you think you owe your customers more disclosure and transparency than you gave them

and second do you believe

your lack of candur with your customers might have contributed

to the wild speculation and confusion

that resulted in the aftermath

of your trading restrictions

what how is she's framing it in a really weird way let me let me go back and see what she said

what did she just say she's like

thank you owe your customers more disclosure

and transparency than you gave them

and second do you believe

your lack of candor

with your customers

might have contributed

to the wild specula

what a weird kind of things is the she's basically saying like

she's she's trying to side with the people

while

in actuality

framing it a is the this is kind of like a see at the capitol

you know it's like the trend of like

you didn't do enough

to be against the people

therefore you're against

like ess he's like

why weren't there more militarized police vehicles

i'm speaking for the american people

you should have flogged them harder

kind of wi it sounds like sh' saying am i misinterpreting

dilation and confusion

that resulted in the aftermath

of your trading restrictions

congresswoman i appreciate the question

i'm

so to answer the second question

look i'm sorry for

what happened i apologize and

i'm not going to say that robin hood

did everything perfect and that we haven't made mistakes in the past

but what i commit to is

making sure that we improve from this we learn from it and we don't make the same mistakes in the future

first of all is that thirty five billion dollars is that grosser net in other words that actual profit or does it include margin shares other forms of leverage that may actually not belong to the account holder

it does include congressmen unrealized gains

so you know both it's the val both mark zuckerberg in this guy i feel like they say congressman is like a condescendything like

you're like an old guy and i'm a tech guy and

you don't know you're talking about

thing like

m yes congressman

like you know i mean you have assets both including

alright

positions in securities and cryptocurrencies

are ok i get that i get that

but again thirty five billion doesn't mean anything to me unless you can convert that into a rate of return so do that for me what is that on what asset under management number is that thirty five billion unrealized again

the

he guy sages here he's my little bitch

is my personal little bit heysaye

bate me just come on the stream we debate you

he he got defeated in every point he raised

and

look

i like the reason i don't want to engage him anymore

is because i watched back on like our four of our past dreams

and we've been literally saying the same thing and he doesn't respond he just repeats the same points

and never response to what we actually said and we've actually responded

to every real point he's ever brought up

both on lefty pool and when he comes on our stream

so the only logical conclusion is that he's a fucking fed

he's a glowing

that's the only conclusion

that's the only conclusion because

he doesn't actually even get even it's not it's not only the doesn't come on stream

he doesn't even engage with what we've said before

you know

he just repeats the same shit over and over again like a broken fucking record

i think he's a glowy i personally think's a glowy but

empt ultro you call me a pussy but i have the power

and i decide when you talk and you don't talk

so right now you're timed out for five minutes

say

you timed out for five minutes

you know

and this is me basically putting a sock in your mouth

so you can't actually type or talk

five minutes

so you should know every time you type in this jat it's because i'm permitting

you

and i'm not going to ban him because i want him

to remember who's in charge

sage has to remember

you know

he's got to remember he's got to know who's in sorry

and the reason he keeps doing that is he' trying to resist

the domination

i've imposed

he's trying so hard to cope with

this

but seen

i don't care how long it takes

you're always going to remember

that has is the one who dominates

and is domineated

and you will never escape

this twisted reality of for

you're never going to es

you're never going to

you're never going to escape

this mental prison

i'm always going to time you out when i see you

you will be muted i choose when you speak sage i choose i choose when you speak sage i have the power

sage look at me

look and you see me

i am the captain see me sage

i'm the captain now

j

you guys know what's going on right

sage is a racist guy living in the u k he kept saying typical arab

he doesn't like the fact that an arab's in charge over a british person

so i have to remem i have to remind him

who's the capt

sage

see me sage the typical arab that's me

i'm the captain

you're my bit

you understand

he needs to know his place

hes no his place

okay sorry

no one

the asset under management number is not one that

robin it is publicly shared i

ok we can catch it

what of jame brown yes we are communists

we are communists hundred percent

there thirty five billion dollars sorry mr tenet i just don't have a lot of time thirty five billion dollars a meaningless number i need to know what that is in terms of rich gross why is it gross

this is a new guy from twich guys by the way

why is it gross

somes wros

you can come to bat us too if you want

if you d m s on twitter

we'll let you want stream and you can debate us about it

retterm so convert that for me into

rate of return so i can compare it to treasury so i can compare it to the s and p five hundred

caught congressman with respect i think the proper comparison is

to customers not investing at all much of our customers are investing for the first time

and are taking money that they otherwise would have spent or consumed and put in jusr ten of again i don't i don't want to be rude but it's my time

again you offered up the thirty five billion dollar number which as you and anybody else scholed in finance knows is meaningless unless you convert it into a rate of return

the sheer scope of today's

ok i'm addressing this for the last time thing my leg day

dude i don't skip leg day i just don't do squats i don't even have a free weight

squat wreck

at my apartment so i couldn't do them if i wanted to

there's more to legs than just swats ok

le me alone

i sorry

hearing is right there in the title game stopped

who wins and loses when short sellers social media and retail investors collide and collide they did each side has its own take on what happened and what should come next hedge funds like king griffin citadel securities says they're not the bad guy

we simply play by the rules the road

payment for order flow has been expressly approved by the f c c

it is a customary practice within the

who's smelling it abrams is that sage

okay

now he wants me to go on twitch and

time amount

a twitch gives me way more power i love the dude

twitch will let me time out for like an arbitrary number how about ten weeks

m

hey svally abrams you got to make a new account because

how do i do this

four hundred

oh it's four hundred seconds ok so n ho to do it

um time out

about

over nine thousand

well how about ninety thousand

how about

hundred sixty seven one one one

i timed ot for a hundred sixty seven thousand seconds

i're back to this

that's why i love twitch tod

yes ten twich gus okay i'll time them all out for the same amount of duration

i'm in charge du

you weren't i say

min i'm not doing anything

i'm being sards on behalf of you

the industry

if they choose to change the rules the road

we need to drive on the left side versus the right side

that's fine with us

i do believe that payment fororter flow has been an important source of innovation in the industry

as the seal robin has testified

they drove the industry towards zero dollar commissions

this is been a big win for american investors

and just to be but what does that have to do with the point

there this c e o of citadel king griffin speaking a the hedge fund citadel and the market maker of course is it doll securities now robin hoods c e o was asked why his platform suddenly restricted buying stocks like games stop

but not selling them he sayes heavy trading

yeah i know it's beyond a joke to compare

for a one k guy

to a retail investor

but isn't it funny how leftists will say the retail investors a

it's a

and evil

anti semite

and like that's every american is retail investing you know

ollin forced his hand

the decision to restrict game stop and other securities was driven purely by depositing collateral requirements imposed by oor clearing houses

so

oh sure

sure let's get some caps in the chat ih wait once you it if anyone's on switch let's with some caps in the chat

capital's the fucking tweet

cat

what's the tweet

nw what's the immodes

fuck where is it

need to add a bunch of

mmhmm

kapa

there we go

has some cappas in the jat

sure dude

a

buying buying whyd why

buying securities why he says are by requirements selling does not even though i recognize customers were very upset and disappointed that we had to do this

i imagine it would have been significantly worse if we prevented customers from selling

and there were lots of those kind of interruptions finally redit s e o told lawmakers that his platform is doing all it can to keep its users honest

is your company taken to guard against this

anything at all grd this guy's like totally bought out what does he give a shit

like what it what person olns

what does he care

congressman we spend a lot of time at it ensuring the

authenticity of our platform

ok i'm sorry

this guy's a creep dude

our sagees back

sages back

siege

strikes

will never be direct action

and you are my bits

time out

time out you my little bit

you in time out

remember who's in charge

member whs in charge s

ca sir

another five minutes s

come back in five minutes

so you get your daily beating

all right soory

getting a little bdious

guys

this guy looks like a creep

ok i'm sorry

but

i know he's on the right side technically

for this

but

this is a

this is

a little bit like a sociopath

i

can you chill dude you know your eyes are a little bit

too wide open

i need you to like

relax your eyes a little bit

because

don't look at

u

i'm like a fucking gorilla do not look at me the eyes like this

ok

it's offensive

you're offending me

so we've got a large team dedicated to this exact task

everything on read and all of the content is created by is this person was speaking to you wouldt you find it hostile or no ma weird

theres

voted on by users and ranked by users and we make sure

that that is

off dude can you oh he blinked i was going to say can you just blink

authentic and as unmannipulated as possible and in the specific case we did not see any signs of why is

he's like on crack

congress

wen is he ready

ready

we were checking our read it

and the

there was no signs

of any manipulation

so

what is wrong with these people i don't know

manipulation

cnn business lead writer matt eagan has been watching these

lively hearings all afternoon matt toalk us through what were the key lines for you

well julia i think coming into this we didn't really know who the bad guy as you put it was in the view of congress but i think at this point it's pretty clear

they see the bad guy as robin hood i've been taken aback by how glad tenet the c o robin hood has really received the lion's share of questions and criticism and the most intense lines of questioning from lawmakers the quized him over yes the controversial trading restrictions that they imposed at the end of january but also their communications issues and even their business model at one point glad

t he did acknowledge under some questioning from lawmakers that listen you know they have the mistakes he did apologize for the communications issues but if you're robino i think the biggest concern is

how often payment for order flow came up in this hearing that of course is the controversial

practice that robin hood and other brokers use where they send retail trades to market makers like citadel securities and they get paid to sit in those orders there n not surprisingly and as you heard

ken griffin of citadel securities he defended that

h practice and so did robin hood they said that listen this is a good thing for customers because trading is now basically free if not actually free but lawmakers did raise some concerns about conflict of interest whether or not high speed traders are actually going ahead of retail

of traders and so i think the question julie is whether or not this leads to any new regulation any new legislation

and and if it does that of course would be a concern for some of the key players involved yet it's a great point and i think robins heo was also grilled on the point that he made of the thirty five billion dollars in unrealized and realized gains on top of the investments that participants using the robin platform of used and again isn't again if it's realized but it was it was an interesting point to make

and you raise it mat

is there going to be concrete action after this because both the robin hood cio and citadel cio came griffin said

in their opening statements there are are ways that we can make the system more efficient and actually very quickly and there's very little attention been paid to that and that is transparency in some of the clearing houses and reducing the time it

c n n just wants you to

be fucking bored to death

s they don't want to explicitly take the side of robin hood

but they just want you to bore you to that so much about this so you just don't even want to care about this shit anymore

takes to do a trade and then settle the trade which requires a lot of cash and actually that was one of the big challenges that took place during this frenzys rtually there has been some talk including in the in the remarks today where you know there's this push to sort of try to modernize the system

and try to speed up what is known as t plus two and that's where there's a trade and it takes two days to settle that trade and because of that system robin hood has said that they had to put up vast amounts of capital and that is why they say that they had to impose these trading restrictions and so la ten of the c e o robin hood has said that listen there's no reason why we can't move to a real time settlement

system where there would be less friction less need to put up that money and perhaps less restrictions during times of volatility but juli it was interesting is there really hasn't been all that much in depth conversation about this idea of real time settlement there's been more focus

sorry guys

one sik

putting the little bits in time on robin hoods communications payment for order flow and issues like that rather than real time settlement

yeah and actually that would to your point reduce some of the frictions and actually very little had from roaring kitty as well you i was really looking forward to but it did say we'd be buying game stops still today remind me again isn't there thousands of people in texas freezing we've come to a point we've always been in this point w it's gotten more explicit

with american media

that there's a disconnect between what's actually happening

in reality on the ground for the american people

and what you're seeing on t

and that disconnect is so profound that

at this point watching the news is like watching a fucking movie like a fictional movie or something of what reality is supposed to be

you know watching the news is almost like watching a fictional depiction an idealized depiction of reality

um

yeah

it's babylon it's babylonian

on

portion

look at the web of funding yeah dude it's all dirty it's all fucking dirty dude it's all fucking dirty

i can't believe people trust media

at all

whatsoever you know

yeah

super disconnect

definitely huge disconnect

um

okay

it's covering the ruling classes clip crimes

yeah

yeah isn't it

i

let's see what destiny's saying about it

because i think thats nics taking the side

of

establishments are going to leach runer some leaching

o let to see

ya dude

they're but you don't understand these people are bought out you know i'm on twitch right now so i can't use the right word as to what they are but who's someone that sells themselves right

that's what the media is so you've got to keep your eye on the money

you know

this is something i notice a lot of leftists make the mistake of

a lot of leftists blame thee

will twitch band if i say this

they're going to be blaming the the

he

um

the person selling themselves

instead of blaming the john the buyer

right

keep your eye on the money

you know

a lot of left wing missogyny comes from the fact

that the spokesperson of the people who are in charge

they do tend to be

servile women

right

those women are just the mouthpieces of

you know old men

with money

don't empower these

establishment

people

by being missogynistic because you're just giving them

a sense of power they actually don't have

they are literally the sex workers of old men with power

and you know what

i'm on switch so i have to use those words but

that is actually the function they're taking

they're assuming this rule of just being bought out

selling themselves

and

they're kind of owned by these old white men so

focus on their masters

focus on their you know

their pimps

or whatever there

and to learn about

but i feel prot culture i don't know dude i was that the whole thing was a joke

the whole thing was a joke

you know

it was just some good fun

don't overread it i don't know anything about pooll it called

i watched some of their video

i

and i i didn't really like it i don't like the tone and i don't like the style

but i haven't watched any of their videos

bo from the beginning to the end

so'm not judging them

definitively

it's just that i was just

poking to be high

for some good

and he's covering the game stop

joe vargas does that sound like a real person

yeah they brought on to explain for like two minutes

and that explanation that's angry joe joe

they we was actually pretty correct and pretty reasonable and they didn't engage in any stupid fucking memory about it i was surprised

now i don't knowf angd or tweeted or said other dumb shit but the clip that i saw

the clip that i saw from his shit

do that sat angry joyused to watch all the time a job i think a clip chipp him the stock i did an atrocious job oh and

shout out

to martin screlly that i think did like a decent job at giving a nonsensational sick as well i probably should put him in here

i think he said a couple things were kind of dumb

and like he said that maybe at some point it'll be over a thousand dollars a share i'm going to get be charitable to shll in as simbly he met in a very very very long position

but i

thats and it was shorting on game sock by hedge funds coordinated people keep saying that intentional shorting j m e so low is immoral

if you want to short a company and you want to publish research about it there's nothing wrong with

that's fine

in your opinion see how people like destiny personalize it

and why i call this anglo

he's saying well there's nothing immoral about doing it personally

well obviously there's nothing immoral about

personally trying to make

quick b

whatever you almost whatever your

unless you're directly enslaving someone

there were you're not it's going to be hard to find something immoral

we're all trying to make money in this world

he's personalizing

people like destiny transpose personal morality

to a wider ability to have some kind of class analysis objective class analysis

of the situation

that's because

the anglo mind doesn't allow you to make

the transition from individuality to some kind of collective reality

and

there's good reason for that

individuals are emperically tangible

collective realities aren

the a they seem like abstraction

so people like destiny are going to personalize everything

and the

they're going to judge it on those terms and then he comes around he ends up

doing the work of the establishment for free just because he's

he you know this is

you guys you know people talk about empathy

word

by

but almost all problems come from m

if you're empathizing with a hedge form

you're a fucking idiot

you're basically trying to put yourself in the shoes

of someone of some kind of reptilian lizard

when the barrier to entry that separates you from them

is so insurmountably vast structurally and

structurally and the

socially

vast

that there can be no m

you know you can't put yourself in their shoes

you just can't

it's like saying oh i love the queen i'm going to put myself in the queen of england

you can't put yourself in her fuck

because so much separates

you from her

in this case explicitly the fact that you're not born into her

royal family

that

to have to have empathy with empathy with those kinds of people is a cop out and it's a

greight

you know a lot of weakness and a lot of

a lot of weakness

and

a lot of

cockery

for lack of a better word

stems from

it's like

you can empathize with billionaires like a lot of people

lot of people empathize with you on must or this ust like me i could be like you on must i could imagine myself

having a billion dollars

you really

ok you really

you really

you have to realize that

the starting point from a to be

you want muscas be in your ag

the

course you have to take to go from a to b

wow

you know

i'm not just saying it's hard to become a billionaire i'm saying

mm

going from a to b you'll experience things that will fundamentally change

what you are who you are

i

fight like a goose

let me

goose

disney thinks he's got to be a tour by maritalk

he has got to be a you tuber by meritocracy

yeah

well itdmittedly is entertaining

it is kind of an objective measurement

how successful you are

so we're not here to be resentful against him

for that we want to compete with

in a fair and square way

we're obviously not nowhere near that yet but

bourgois individual is one of the key ways of

yeah

great take us beyond the empathy you simply wish

yeah it's not only a wish they could wear their shoes

which is fine everyone wants to wish that

it's a false sense of having a feeling of e quality

oh i'm the same as that person

you just don't know how much you are objectively

unequal to those people

you can't empathize with them

because

there is a disconnect

in their humanity

in regards to your humanity objectively

it's an objective disconnect

it' an objective contradiction

you can't empathize with thehim and put yourself in their shoes

i

because something unthinkably

supra individual

societal and social

the accounts for the discontinuity between you and them

you can't individualize

m

could you give you thoughts on alternatives to robin hood

the normal retail investors

that only have a few thousand to use can responsibly used to exploit day trading such stocks like options

you should use robin hood if you want to day trade

the honest piece of advice for you is that if you're a normal retail investor you should never be day trading

if you want to day trade go do a rober i guess you get like a free stock you get a free speecy thissnes issues that he feels like he can speak

for retail investors

he's giving advice for everyone dude dude no offense dude but your stramer your you tubere

you're not above headswm managers

you're the jester of hedge fund managers dude

the people on wall street are the ones who control this country you're their jester dude you're in no position to be giving them advice about fucking anything

itpossible to trade options on robin hood

yeah you can trade options on robin hood it is pretty easy to do

there's literally not a single app in germany that allows that

you know it i just find it weird that it's this combination of giving

personal financial advice which is completely fine

and then com somehow being able to combine that with an actual political position

is ridiculous

like

oh i'm going to show you how to chair on robin hood also this is morally and ethically correct you know this other

you know it's like

trying to bundle both of those together is really fu

but again this is the same individual ism we're talking

the booze us it inso i make you feel ashamed to admit it yeah dude

that's why infrared

me personally

i'm very much inspired by the artwork

of a guy named george

great

and the

i have a term new objectivity

and i

this is my kind of aesthetic new objectivity right and this is what his

his artistic style was called at the time

and i

for me i feel like he represents this shame

this

this naked

contradiction

in its actual objectivity and that's what gives such a quality of

sheer beauty to his paint

you know his paintings depict

such a vast sense of hideousness and ugliness

isn't there a kind of cathartic beauty in this

of just seeing all of this so nakedly

and

almost organically

in reality like

this is it

you know

this is really my is that

his new on

i

and here here you go what is this if not shame

isn't this shame to

this is shame

right we use this painting in our socialism video

this is shame

right this is representing that kind of shame that

fool

the coldness of reality in the shame of

but there's something cathartic about being able to

posit this shame and give expression to

the naked and bare shame of our reality

you know

is something extremely

ah

reconciled about

you know

the there's no contradiction between george rose's paintings

and

i

you know

something that appears superficially more

up be

like to me the duality is george grows

and death stranding

like to me those are the same thing they're giving expressions to the same thing in

but i know it's really confusing and makes

rule

what do you think is a some good example of socialist realist literature

um

i would say how the steel is tempered

ah is one of the most famous ones

the one i'm reading now is called road to the ocean by leonid

leonez i don't know if the books are still available

there might be some p d f

the thirties is

the golden era i'm not

familiar with forty's zero social rerealist literature

not because it's not

as good but i'm literally just not familiar with

i love road to the ocean

one of my favorites

i

do you know what

petro dollar system

yeah

dude it's so pointless to argue with people on the internet all the time

truly pointless

um

on

let's check this out

he has wonderful social srealist hungaran books

goory moldova

ahhuh i have no clue that is bent toff

but

i'm not familiar with the hungary and social realist tradition at all but it sounds very interesting

you read those sty have he thoughts on it ictually don't think those have ss has to be reactionary you know

you caln there's there's somehow

um

there is a i don't like susing this word revolutionary but

there is a socialistic keronel in dosev ski

to me

um

best socialist stfres george or well i go on your band i'm kidding

but i very much disagree with that

very much disagree that

opinions on jack london

i think jack london

and steinbeck are examples of a prototypical american socialist realism

those authors are definitely up my alley i really like

you know

a lot of people don't get this

um jack london

a lot of people would associate him

with some kind of darwinism and they missed the point

jack london's call of the wild and it is the depiction of the world as dog eat dog

to me this perfectly and one hundred percent corresponds

to

to the socialistic position of reconciliation

and catharsis

to and just like the george gross paintings i just showed you isn't that kind of an ugly doggat dogness

i think there's something so subtle and so beautiful

about

the way

jack london

gives expression to the ugliness and the

hostility of the world

i think this is a crucial stage

to the development of any type of socialistic or communistic aesthetic

and i find nothing contradictory about it whatsoever

with a position of authentic

optimism and faith in the future

i

doggie dog

yeah

jack london is a wonder is a great author

i recommend m everywhere especially if you're american read

jacqueline

thoughts on upton sinclair

i haven't read any of his books

kind of a

illohates guy

one hundred years of solitude by gabrielle garcia

marquiz is the

conflicts of a family and how the demise of the town is made to do

conflicts agean be

there's so i really like jack london's book

him

go

george moldova wrote a history of the construction of hungaran raiway in the people's republic

wow that's interesting that's that sounds like road to the ocean because road to the ocean is also kind of about

are pretty much about

that's really interesting

doing

i really wish

you can somehow give

expred give

how can i stream the content of books you can't do you ust have to read in

but it be so wonderful it be so beautiful if you could

somehow stream the contents of books and just be able to like

emanate that feeling

you get from reading these books

in a stream you just can't do you know you can only recommend people read this or that

or talk about them

it's like you can stream a movie in a game

but there's really no way to stream a book

you know

roade to the ocean already learning cool

yet

june is pretty good i haven't read that book

i heard a lot of people were upset about the new movie though

the new june movie that's coming out

m

i have no opinion

uh i i don't take movies that seriously anyway

that heggls logically sid it's a painful read

ye have very few people successfully can read hegel's logic

by itself

in a vacuum

so i don't blame you at all

you know it's it's a definitely a feat

all it's quite defeat

yeah i wish i can stream the experience somehow

doun is a masterpiece i bet i bet

i think june is what i've heard about june is it's very interesting because it's about petropolitics

and that's right up my alley you know it's right up my alley

doing a audio book reading i couldn't do it i get exhausted

capital is nothing compared to logic logic i think they're both

just as hard as each other if you really appreciate capital for what it is it's just as hard

higgle style of writing makes sense to me so i feel like

i have an easier time reading hagel at thist

once had a hage class in university

we we yeah

was kind of borshit but anyway we read some parts of it there was the um

master slave dialectic

there were actually many people who weressaying

why does he writing this violent and brutal language and all of that but totally missing report

some people just find it shocking that we do live in a brutal world

and i i'm not so outrageous

mek toto sensed to me at that time and they were just likewow that's totally shocking

it's a how sheltered can you

you guys want to know my take on sci fi i love science fiction it's a privileged medium

for the infrared show itself

all of our thumbnails almost all of our thumbnails are science fiction inspired for our streams

fin wen on is our

honorary artists

that describes infrared's aesthetic vision

i

to me in the twenty first century and the latter half of the twentieth century

socialist realism

must assume the form of science fiction

science fiction is the new privileged medium of socialist realism

because the way in which we envision the future

has assumed a new

significance after

this so called post maderny

i

and social realism itself isn't so much about only depicting the past or the present

it's about giving expression and form

to an event

and you can even think of this in terms of the badduzi

a len badu's event that's probably a

something you guys are familiar with

but just think of the word event in the everyday sense and it'll be more or less

similar some type of event

some type of settling in

of

some type of meaningfulness

coherence

settling in

upon

the wreckage after

this disaster of maderny

i

and socialist realism

is

oh

is giving expression to that it's very much an artistic medium of the morning

the morning

you know

dune is about a desert shit whole planet

yeah i know the premise of a doom

but the

i think you know a lot of people neglect

how important it is

in the sphere of fiction and the sphere of

whatever

it can be anything a video game movie

book

whenever you have a star wars type of

heroes valiantly resisting oppressors

most of the time it's going to be btd

but a book that gives expression to the

raw ugliness of the world

in a unique way

will be beautiful ser

it's s it's almost like the opposite there's something very optimistic

about just

showing us ugliness showing us the hideousness of the wor

because then you can read

because we all know the world is like

right

but to be able to develop some kind of meaning in spite of that

is where i think what i think is the source

true literary

to me

i don't want to live i don't like left

i don't like this idea

i

you know

i don't even like an explicitly anti imperialist book

say june is more interesting to me

not because i think it's anti imperialist but because

it is depicting this kind of

new wild west

n

petropolitan

i know

with no guarantee optimistic guarantee whatsoever

i don't like

any optimism that isn't paid for dearly

dearly by trudging through the ugliness

hideousness of the world

i

you said that you love the movie wandering earth

what is your analysis of that film or other chinese sifi

i think wandering earth is a contemporary example of social

real of

specifically though

there's this is the word a parable there's a sparable of the sun

that i think is a consistent theme

post madern

the end of the sun

and i

the emptiness that were

forced to deal with

the platonics

good

i sound folking crazy

and i'm not giving more background to this

idea i've been developing for

many years but

remember guys you know

you give me the benefit of the doubt

but im

to me there's a few interesting things about wandering earth

one i think it's a direct analogy of chinese socialism

what do i mean by that

so what is the new sun in wandering earth the earth is propelled with

i

rockets or something what are they called thrusters yeah thrusters

and it's hurdling towards a new dest a new solar system and a new sun

ok well it's very simple that's communism

ok

it's communism ok

the death of the old son represents what

i interpret it as the catastrophe of the culture

remember the wandering earth is based on a book called a three body problem and the background of the culture of

gvery

so you're dealing with a simple thing

how can we be communists after the end of the cultural revolution what is communism for us

since communism is aestranged from our cultural and phenomenal world

reality

and it's just something

unthinkably out there

and all we can relate to it as is in the form of this

precision measurement

of the earth hurtling towards it

millions of what years away

how can we cope with the fact that we will not see this

in our own lifetime

how can we relate

to communism

from the standpoint of our finithy

to me it's a the film it gives expressions of socialsm with chinese characterists

in a really beautiful way

because the western view is that

we can communism is only real in so far as it is within our purview

it's immediate

it's we have access direct access

but

the chinese you represent a maturity

from that ear

i think the lesson of wandering earth is that

is how to cope with

the fact

that communism

will not be in our life

more or less

and

there's a direct almost direct

shout out in that movie to the belt and road initiative and how it relates to

this new son

which is common

i also like the aesthetics of that movie

like especially when they showed the surface of the earth

it's like oposed environmentalist post climate change

m

depiction

yeah and it's really beautiful that's like most of it rights is how beautiful the

film itself is

in terms of its

aesthetic which is it resembles fund w on his drawings a lot

yaes

i think it's my favorite film of the twenty ten

we're here

one hundred years of solitude is about a fild revlution that leads to a mak

the in the so called unerus i complee band theth the butlery and jihad i've heard of

he's the worse it was a car

in

i

wondering earth isn't about the

great american individual

yeah and nothing too

forgot to mention

i think china is challenging the mcu inadvertent

right because

there's been a tendency in cinema

where it's basically been

um

the chinese style films

the past ten years have been what

what are those movies called disaster movies

huge special effects

big blockbuster films

that just showcase technological

might

it's almost like the dedngjouping era

of unleashing the forces of production is how we

like

in our group

whereas disney

the new genre films

being created by disney and the mcu

weren't just about

the special effects

but they were also about the

how substantially meaningful they

they're creating phantoms you're becoming psychologically attached to them

unprecedented way

so i think the chinese response to that

is films like wandering earth that return

meaningful

meaningful uh

theme pork

feel as like marn scor says he put it

meaningful experience

to the

film

it

it replicates that but it also

doesn't hide the

kind of

tenological

special effects

that's the

but what we were what i was going to get to is that with m c

who is the superhero the superhero was an individual with superpower

in m in wandering earth

you are shown directly

and nakedly

precisely how the individual is connected

to this

not only the collective social whole but also to the forces of production

anson naateure

so i think that this new genre of films superhero films superhero films guys

clip me and ship me on this

superhero film

are actually about dealing with the dialectic of individuality and society

in the age of the decline of liberal

we need superheroes

because only a superhero

can embody an individuality

worthy of replacing

the social and

other forces that are tes

to our individuality

which are primary in regards to our individuality

the superhero

wields the power of society as a whole

individual

that's why there superhero

and interesting

zach snyder he's

challenge to disney is also very

dealing with this issue of

how to make the transition from individuality to some type of

greater social and collective

on

yeah

opposite of pacific rim you don't like pacific rim

mhmm

i think pacific rim is kind of interesting

because

there is something kind of crudely humanist about

when

when the

pilots is getting in that yeager and he's fighting the giant kaiju

in the middle of the city and all the people the crowds of people are rooting on

this yeager it's almost like there's something

i don't want you be a pseudo intellectual but isn't it kind of like a hagelian

i

determinate reflection going on with this yeager the yeager represents

you met the

corporate this kind of corporalization of

human

dice

fighting against this kd

there's not even gelling ma maybe there's something marxist about

you know

humanists

marks a

but this is a really optimist

reading

can also read it in other

or his here was a worry

sorry

so

i

chinese including a lot of epic mose

i just watched the chinese film the other night

and i don't want to mention it because i'm too stupid to give

be necessary i

attention

carey desert

but there's a movie from twenty eighteen and i reckon dot guys watch

it would not worry how you ho you

there's a movie from twenty eighteen

and it's called shadow

shadow

chinese

and

this film to me is really beautful

to

but

i want to clear my head a little bit before i

can give a good analysis of that film

because i'm presently not able to

give

do the film

just

but it's a beautiful

i

only super individuals can solve our super problem

exactly bos would blay that's exactly

when i'm getting a

hero worship

yeah

i feel like godzilla film outside of japan

i love aiju films if you don't know ben talk it's kind of a mean

already for this channel

king kong versus godzilla

i

but actually

the reason for the mem i think is because in our

in our short form videos

we do

have not subtle nods to the

film godzilla king of the monsters and i think that's a beautiful film

i love that film so much

and i think it's a very high degrey

i love godzilla king of the mo

i love

absolute love

i think jokers the best

america best western movie

of the twenty ten

easily

i think there's a coincd remember guys what i said about new objectivity

and i said george gros's paintings that depict such hideousness and such ugliness

perfectly correspond to something like dea strand

right

i think the same is true for joker and wandering earth

joker and wandering earth are actually about the same thing

they're actually about the same thing

i

the joke

the the western movie the joke

and the wandering earth

they came out at similar time

they're both very beautiful films

they're just dealing with it from different perspective

but they're about the same thing

they're about the same exact

right

movie about populism and contraicts

heavy on the contradiction pint

is what i would say

it's definitely dealing with a contradiction

yeah it's a beautiful movie

jokers objectively shit though i disagreed i thought it was a beautiful movie

maybe the ending was a little if

but it was a beautiful i think the most the best part of the joker to me was when you didn't find out

that he wasn't actually

arthur wayne's son

for as long as you believe joker was arthur wayne son

there's something so indescribably beautiful about that film

and the scene where he walks into the cinema and they're showing charlie chaplin

that was heavy that was heavy

like

that feel that all of that was very heavy

when you find out he wasn't actually arthur wayne's son and his mom was just crazy

that's when the film kind of

takes its u turn

in my view

especially when the joker leaves the studio with the famous murray scene

whre he kills murray and then he leaves and he starts dancing and stuff then i kind of felt like ok that's when the director gave up

but until then i think the the movies

there's such a

heavy beautiful

feeling of

have you seen the chinese movie youth

no i have

i have

i i

i love the movie animal world speaking of new objectivity the chinese movie animal world speaking of doggat dog

animal world is a beautiful

parable about socialism with chinese characteris

i'm new here but i know what the grilles thing

yeah that's the source of

i

jorker is special in the recognizing of him and everything one of his being full of shit

it's yeah it's not just that but it's

how it gives expressions to that contradiction

i

the the unhappy con

the joker deals with

in a very open and honest way

and that's why i love

who is the people's kaiju

easily can call

king cag

me

king kong i do we did this analysis

f

king ong in a sense does represent humanity

original and prime ordial humanity

godzilla represents the earth

he represents the college

he represents the deep terrestrial

geological processes

of the earth

he watched the daily wire movie but school shooting i'm not familiar

i thought taxi driver was a bit to similar

joker was a bit disimilar tax taxver was also good movie but i just forgot it i should return to

joker was more about not achieving class

but i think that's why it's good because

like imagine if the joker became a newspaper selling tdrucks

then did this ruined

you know

you need to have a type of

hopelessness to have hope you need to honestly deal with

our situation and i feel like

achieving class consciousness explicitly

would just be a cop out in a cope

from march

way

have you seen the movie analysis by molly

i

no i think joker is beautiful too

oh it looks like shit from the perspective the outside because that's how it wc ohk you're right you're right you're

ah there's almost a lot of shit

almost left he would never cross

but that's good it shouldn't cross the threshold because

when they cross the threshold they ruin

you know

the only films that cross the threshold in that way

our disneyfilm

their films made by p c companies

that are just trying to lie to you on the big screen about what your world is

you know

nobod no film has a right

to be a lefty film in the world we're living

you know

think about

we can have lefty films

when we're in power

you know

let's not have m before we're actually in power

takes place aain

godzillvers king kong move

newspaper triy joke

we need a government of

that's not a uint of ca right

i think caleb responded to someone who clipped

the interview you guys had with

sorry

can't pronounce his name

that guy

and someone

cliff the part where he was kind of the

impersonating caleb and kill was like what is this wronm what's the context

right he reacted to that yeah he in the comments of

someone who cliicp

you know another film i like speaking of russian films guys is that it's that one on you tube

but the guy who impersonates i've been the terrible i love it

it's ust a night that soviet films are

something else you know

it's they have that fuel

they have what disney tries to do

you know

which is have this

cozy sense of meaningfulness

embedded throughout them we're not just watching a film

you're participating in a world

guys you know what i said we live in socialism

disney does represent this fake attempt

create

socialist

fill

disney films are trying to give you this sense of

participating in a world

which soviet and chinese films have always done

again

disney represents a type of social

write a common

sense of meaning social meaning

common world of

people are part of

like people can carry disney

like the little red book and they're a part of

know you're a part of the disney brand

fully immersed

were

what is your take on the iran iraq war

i think the iran iraq war is an example of the fact

that all of these maowis fake maoists in the west who are romanticizing armed conflict as

privileged means of struggle need to realize

that in today's globalized world

two countries can repeat world war one

all the horrors and brutality of world war one

be repeaated

so many lives can be lost

so many bloodshed

so much blood can be spilled

and it's still not going to

correspond to a historical change

like world war one and world

you know iran in iraq war they were funded by both sides america

funded both sides

and even the socialist bloc

funded both sides

war everyone was

cynically funding both sides

they were just watching them go at it

killa

and

on the ground in those countries it was a fucking apoc

you know it was so much bloodshed and horror it was like

what was it more people

it was even more gruesome than world war one or something

and it was a completely localized event so just because something

this is what i want to tell

leftist direct action individuals i want to tell them that

just because

something is experienced as intense at the individual level

doesn't mean you're actually making an effect

i know wo

larger scale

iran and iraq were going at it like a like fuck with an intensity of world war one

and the world

wasn't shaken

the world was just watching all this fucking happen

all these people dying all this destruction happened

all this blood being shed

and it was a completely localized event

i want people to think about

i really want people to think about

we are no longer living in a substantial

that's going to send some ripples down

you can butcher each other all you fuck and want

you can do

have all these romanticism

repeat

the

glorious romanticism of the nineteenth and twentieth century a thousand and a on million times over

you're not going to make a dent

as far as any real change in the

the world will pass you by

and walk over your grave

i don't like calling it capitalism realism dude

no disney is a type of fake socialist realism let's not call it capitalist realism

i hate that word

have you seen the twenty twenty spot nick i wanted to i didn't see it

question for alex and bordy

what is your favorite dog breed and why is it

no for thats very annoying

im

i have an experience with a pit once

and i was seste seventeena i was sese that kind of people that wanted to enter to do their revolution et cetera et cetera so entera one of thse small este communist parties here in mexico

a like all good all communist parties we were

is there

i had repart in newspapers

is kind of wush its more action of

ever means so there was a person that it was with a peole i tend to keep newspaper and the people mosts

and them

becuse he aman un sll sem pim and then onre then it

ies im

after that then i was was afraid of peoples was afraid of peoples that terrible terrible ducks

yeah i don't know if i agree with

the the

capitalist realism thing

for mark fisher

i think mark fisher is trying to

i agree with

margaret thatcher's tina

there is no other alternative

i would just add

ha don't

be so confident

in what you think the world is right now

like i said when i was trying to sum it up an intu a dialect

if you only relate to the world in terms of the contradiction it imposes upon you subjectively

you don't really have an objective sense of

the world is

you just have a sense of how the world disappoints

but you have to

adjust your expectations in

i

there is no alternative

it's true

but what is our world

for which there is no

turney

the question

disney is fantasy not realist

well you can

you can make the same argument in regards to socialist re

the rout what makes socialist realism real isn't the fact

specifically

that it's giving direct

empirical

representation to the world directly

one to one way

i

it's that it's socialist

real is

depicting the reality of socialism

which is something entirely different

then

empirical

scientific

reality

i have a pud don't think it's considered a dog brey dog

i mean that was to lesson i pulled from markfisher to accept tina as a reality

really

was isn't capitalist realism mark fisher's thing that it's like

this idea that there is no alternative and we can't imagine other possibilities

but i don't want to imagine other possibilities

you know i want to actually arrive at what our world is

here and now what is it

you know

he will believe that there is no alternative

and that there can never be

yeah yeah

exactly but

there actually isn't one

you know

it's not a normal nominative claim it's a descriptive one

i know but i wouldn't call this capitalist realism i would just call this the failure

socialists

to make sense of the world

instead of trying to make sense of the world socialists seem to just want to reject the world

and

insist that

there are other possibilities

in a really vague way

yeah talking to youar so fucking real is

know is that capitalism realism seem to the level of subconscious desire

i don't

think it's that deep

alexander i wouldn't

take it that far

on

i earnestly and genuinely believe

that

these are just excuses

being made

for their own

that's

fumical bosit of how we can't go beyond capitalism right

fuku yama you mean right

i think i just think you wll take for granted what they mean by when they say capitalism what do you mean

capital

people think it's self evident but when you push them

and you prod them

it's no longer so self evident

a lot of problems come

they just say oh it's what is mark is describing capital

and i would say ok

can you

to adequately describes me what marx was describing and i push him in produm and they never give me a satisfactory answer

i

ang way way

contrating on social policy gender and race

i don't believe the carworld is the only one that

could

i think it is

think it is i just think

people never want to ask the question of what is our word

has reac to cruella trailer

oh man i already saw it

and it seemed like disney's really cringe and fake version of the joke

we can react

russian school of thinking of the future

this is the thinking of soviet times and now with ub

and then you'll the boasted of how now is the best

that's an interesting take bos of the blay that's a really interesting take three schools

the chinese school of thinking into the past

russian school of thinking into the future

and then the

liberal delusion of the present

is very interesting

it's that once you accept that it's level of some cons there's no return to capitalis concius

crack

but what is capitalist consciousness what is capitalist unconscious

i don't think people know what they mean when they say these words capitalism

cap

i just think people are taking a lot for granted

i don't accept that there's a common meaning

i don't care about the guy

sitting how zshus is philosp

channels a really nice chill yeah sometimes

the channel gets a bit heated

and that also gives us a lot of views

but i think we want to go with quality over quantity

this

our direct

because we want good view

so instead you just deal with the here and n

capitalism is actually fluid capitalism has morphed in ways no one nights industry

had or could have pretty

i agree with

but i don't my only caveart is maybe marx and angles did proreduce

what it was morphing in

they called that social

i don't want to

drunk driving sources has a question

for you both

what are alex and jody and or studying in college and why is it spit roms

i don't play it against that offer to be honest

i play very chill the video gapes

i play very chill the video games

is' three segoro cassino saie pedo one i play very genlys continue

ah

capitalism i don't know

see

both

the future in the past and of being a tool observing the current

yes it's a dialectic of the future in the past is how you arrive at the present you never just directly arrive

with the present

to

the present is a dialectic of the future and the

arko modernis

is my aesthetic

and marxis time we can grasp capitalism consciously and transform it

i don't think that has anything to do with marxism alexander i think this is lucax

kchi in

comtiunism

and not marxis

marxism

never spoke of

voluntarily transforming the world on the basis of some kind of consciousness

in relation to

you never are really fully conscious

there's always a

this capls on this

created this really so

was alex a gopenick or has he just a sweater

it's just the sweat args

buthen in the prison are it is at the same levels like fuels and part of the base on which humanity still operates

i alexander another problem with a problem with that alexander is that

capitalism in morxis time wasn't like

capitalism in marxis time was representing a new tendency

and the base was still the

leftovers of the ancient

suppose it left over

that's what capitalism was for march

capitalism

was not fully consolidated as we all know

and communism reared its significance

only in those countries in which capitalism

was not able

fully

manifest itself like it did in englanh

and there's a good reason for

and

i think people

attach too much to the word capitalism

i don't think capitalism has made class relations more obscure i think class relations have imminently become more its obscure

unless that's what you meant

like not just consciousness in relation

you not

i'm very skeptical of any idea that

the problem is how capitalism deludes us in

being able to understand its true reality

i'm very skeptic i always think that's the cop

i was

yeah i'm very skeptical of that

alex hooneker

what a eveing

no no

has if you could time travel and kill one person

it wouldn't be sage dude why would i waste it on sage

sage is nothing to me

he's just a fucking annoying loser

who would i kill

ah

the memory is stcreen on twdge

you know who would be it would be uh

it would be like some marxists who has poisoned marxism

in the west

it'd be some like intellectual enemy

i don't know i'm just kidding

anyway that is just what i got from to accept that tina is a reality

this is angles died in eight hundred ninety five big institutions were creating large trusts yeah

and angles was saying this is socialism

that's realizing itself

hungry jump from feudalism to socialsm and thous nine undred pretty much back

well it opens up questions did it really jump back

i don't know if it jumped back

i think

we merely misunderstood what socialism was

socialism i've a people are going to take me out of context and people always slander me and they're so fucking vicious and brutal

when i try to introduce subtle ideas they're not familiar with

like how i associate socialism with

feudalism

socialism is this return to the traditional

sociality

that is often called feudalism

and in china you have feudalism in russia you have f they're all different things

some kind of traditional

and normal baseline reality

oh

socialism is a return to that

and socialism like feudalism is spatial it's based on

um spatial relations not temporal ones

a it's based on political

hierarchies and uh

it's based on

common meaning

rather than common

rather than a pure abstraction of market relations there was also this debate in the soviet union

uh about state capitalism

and lennin i think gave a speech on that saying uh accusing people of

you don't even know what you're talking about like there is are no books written about state capitalism so you cannot accuse us that something like that

she was basically saying was something new

can be understood uh

within socialism re of the soviet union

i'd killed jason guy

it's funny

for lords and barons there's a reverence for the older system

that's a general tendency it's also the neo ottomanism is expressing itself but it's ambiguous you know

um

but yeah you're right

what a weird question tory did you see this question

yeah yeah i the hos folks i don't wt so to eet that folk haitscus toill be the running m

the rural monarchs of mexico

well you know there's there were goys that said that they want some socialist monarchi

i knew i we going to it

that say that he wanted a socialist monarch i've heard that he was

that

i've heard that too

yeah yeah yeah there's people that and he was sd a minra he was sd it in min craft becaus he play that game of my gon know you told me about this before you told me yeah they are pretty weere people pretty were people

chomsky's best contribution

is debunking the cambodian genocide

thoughts are among us

i always kind of found it boring i don't know

we have a social economy that is looted by wealthy groups

more or less

yeah more or less

more or less seems

like a good summary

theman he caught your ear

mmhmm

so i ma a he can if you could marry into any royal family which one would you choose

you goes you guys go first i don't say

i don't even know who are any your family

honestly i'm still peter

it's just interesting that three strongholds of the block

have jumped not to liberalism but straight to reaction

i think that is liberalism in the wild bent off i think when you put liberalism in the wild it's fascism

when you have liberalism in a

hypocritical safe space it can pretend to be something else

when liberalism is put into the wild

face

with

the civilizational

enemies of liberalism which is all of humanity

outside of europe

it's in the wild

and it's fascism

it had a thousand ye history to but ukraine

um

feudalism

yeah

socialism similar in that regard thegh right

based on land and it's based on resources and it's based on

social

relation bonder

sport social bond

so feudalism and socialism are similar in that regard

you're literally all in bred

marx even described the russian feudalism as socialistic in a way

yeah the communes

yeah

yh

i'm really glad i tuned in todayeah i appreciate itam

yeah after our divorce you know our streams are going

jump and quality

we're going to be way more mature and sh you know we're not

be as silly as were i'm not

yes

forur we're still not going to be one hundred percent super serious but

you know

infrared

it the path we were headed on with lefty pole was just on becoming a

one infrared was school

and i was doing a lot of things

views

and it's just not worth

you know

compromises

quality

money from central banks didn't exist back then

yeah you're right

very true

very true

what is carlost in spain

you douse mr to sort yeah i mean

all motor productions are like that you know

what do you think about yugoslavia ties to carlist in spain

to the car i don't know what about the tides i'm not familiar with them

if i remember wther i also ha not to read a look but there were

ah

a bronarcha

from fromanarchy color movementeam day

its they every every twenty

is the century unlated stay

l late twenty century early twenty

century

um

wh what what thate what thate

the actual feudal one the one peasant he had yeah i mean

everything's complicated like that you know

lefty poles jerking off to maoism once again

well like i said it's pretty glowy

to me from my perspective it's a little bit glowy

they're very catholic and sort of quasi socialist

the carlos

yeah

ah interesting

mm

good mony ervast chanese mo how how servast chanese

i i remember this is a conservatives the outor in spain that it was part of a

ah

ah

a

m yoummentor whoene sador the the lespirit to catolico is pegiba plago

it was up there

and

it was surnamed po and he was wrought a very interesting book about how they

they the the the it the history call air sence of of apan

was found in in catholicis

in katali it was a very interesting conceervt after and he was uh among these six there

i'm a catholic moviment that it was with very very

ah

ium near with with the colis movement

i don't know how i hear but but i hear i hear some things i hear some interesting things about the things

ah

what do you think about leftists that got into syndicalism because of a video game

sounds a little bit cringy

say the least

i mean synicalism itself is

yeah already

uh ya i don't really

syndicalism is

a little bit cringched

k fellcism in hungary is the polar opposite of communism

it's very interesting bent off it's actually very interesting

you know in some places

catholicism represents the opposite like ireland and protestantism is the reaction but i can easily see how the opposite is true

to my knowledge actually isn't it in the case in hungary's history

do the catholics represent more like the elite

the nobles in the ruling class were as the lutherans

who are more the kind of peasant masses

in a country like hungary

i'm not quite familiar

type of guild economy

happen banks in a sense where they fous on involvement

yeah i think the problem is people think feudalism was a system

right but she

ned to be being real feudalism really isn't a system you know

i

it's more like a

ah

sorry

checking an email right noh

oh yes the landed magnates in the elites interesting

what about in terms of the

ethnicity or nationality

do catholics kind of represent

i don't i'm not familiar it is always every class difference always disguises some type of

historical

encounter between different polities

lutherans were in many ways revolt against them that makes a lot of sense

makes a lot of sense

and yeah it's it's very interesting

ok the calvinists were basically all buge

lutherans were basically all princes and peasants were anabaptists

that was true in germany right was that true and also in hungary

sticking to catholicism was usually geopolitical yeah yeah it's all geopolitics

feudalism had very interesting upward social mobility yeah

yeah ain't that the truth

on the twenty sixth is next

see

so there's nothing dut and

so i'm looking at law school see y these doer tonight

m serious question for jorhi

which you take

sorry californians but you have to take all the californians too the californias california so it's name california you also have the promnse of new mexico but that namesake if i were you weorry i would take the land but kick all the people

people and it's out

ah

prothss ma he can is as youn

i don't know of that mexican lunch

ah

roman catholicism came here wearing german knights armor a thousand years ago

yeah

yeah that's how it was in the slavic countries as well

i

t the two times

soy i love the movie alexander newsky nofense o

sorry

we're being

sensitive

u thir thirking about the about this stay

of katoi sams

i was they stll think that it it's it needs

depending for example in them

in the mexican situation

there alway some kind of mistape

device

eh

i i don't remember for example i rd is the about ah a very gods card to get it in

in day

the the the grandfather of uh thebtl farosikaos

ho's this card that is ek of

of your stay

of loving all their religious symbols and whatever

it was a stay at chinapua h agar a popular griy of puaris

are he the space of the priests he the space of the priests

would they lower the their the deligious simbos

it's the same

like indepenen in the independence worre press that independence

no zero independence ya

and the ain catholic church eight a m

ug it these priests and condemn them to deaths

is a very interistic

internal situation that this happened and how we deal with this of catholicis here in mexico

um

the most obvious example of christianity

gorm i think

what's a little bit

narrow about this reading of the english civil war

is that i think the real stakes of the english civil war

weere outside of england it was ireland and scotland

the irish and scottish

we're cathery

and

oliver crimwell was a

h was like a genocidal

a figure against

you know

so

i don't

it's a really interesting

dialectic of revolution

it's kind of how it happened

the urban

forces

become more and more fanatical

but then

you have the

it's turned against the mass

a

turned again the against the mass

no

explain

what do you mean

wasn't it that cromwell

was

genocidal against

scottish for presbyterian

oh i'm stupid dud it i'm just

fuck

but weren't weren't the scottish highlanders

supporting the catholic king

ah

the jacobites weren't they for the

wasn't that a catholic king

or

because that's where i'm getting that from

a the jacobite

let me see

i thought

damn'm stupid as hell

it meant tolerance

for catholicism

a thos for ireland

for scott it scotland

weak

i'm reading wikipedia outside ireland jack busmess strongest in the western scottish highlands

and there is a northern

high proportion of

catholics such as

ok so there were some

catholics

in ireland but you're right

sorry

i got

what do you mean no

that was in the jacobites

scottis wre the

covenant

andm i stupid dude the jacobites were scottish

i'm an idiot

it it was a

really

but the

they stnghlp of the jacods were they scottish

yeah

right

and the they the jakovids

the hight from a scott what about the massacre of glencl right

wasn't in power until the second civil war

but i'm just saying wasn't that the consequence

the consequence was

it was turned against the backward irish

because they weren't revolutionary enough

innocenent

right

that's like the modern reading i know a lot of people a fords do what he is but that's not what i'm trying to fuck and say i'm trying to say like

can read it as a parable for the dialectical revolution

some catholics consider themselves distribunist

yeah but the jacobites were later

i know i'm not saying this is all at the same time

but i'm just saying

that

i'm not saying this is all happening at once i'm just saying

that it's ambiguous

i

the idea that

the protestants were more progressive than the catholics

isn't really true

there's a dialectic ap

course it was later i'm saying it was later

like

that was the consequce

it was shown to be the con

the include in the internal conflict i know but if you watch my video communism stayed in class

you'll find that my whole point

is that the internal conflict of

you're a class struggle

just forebodes a bigger conflict

outside of the polit

or

between the policy and its real material

the true site of class struggle

is not

urban

sorry for getting fresh

lok

and

the prots were pro anglo catholics

wanted independence symbols

i don't

what you mean

catholicism is probably the most regressive thing there is

yeah there's an ugly

' is definitely a lot of ugliness to com

calvinism

and i

rousseau was raised as a calvinist

and

rousseau

represented a kind of compromise

in my view between calvinism and catholicism

that's why he was hated by both

even worse than voltaire who was an eighth

i've meen a lot of distributionist and market socialst and fascist discoords

yeah dude

you know there's going to be all sorts of eclectic

etiologies people are going to subscribe to

because they can't face the simple and plain truth of boxes on

so they got a

make up for it with all sorts of

eclectic

ideologies

take away looks like churches can have liberating or repressive effects in re places yet not just

churches but different

strains of religion you know not

a religion isn't necessarily more progressive than another

it depends on the content

i

en the fre is big enough we could a head agin city and installed ginss poke

sure

i have no objection to that

i see no reasons

that

i see no reason to find that objectionable whatsoever

is there a downside to this

idea

it's fine

what is a distributionist im stupid dude

distribution

wikipedia time

world's products as a s be wildly owned rather than concentrated

oh i'm kind of a

distribution

that's what it means but i'm sure it doesn't just mean that

it's probably referring to something

which in com

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it's like repersonization

it's a dialectic distribution is

and centralization is a dialect

it's not one or the other it's both

depends on the time

state

vens into the feds

extremely care

third position

what do you think conservativism is it depends on the context you know wh would you mean

um

so is capitalism so it was

christianity was revolutionary so it wasn't then islam was the it wasn't

y it depends on we

ah

you know

even capitalism

was never really revolutionary

because

it's kind of a stretch to call

the french revolution a capitalist revolution even though

capitalism in a sense was a consequence

we wasn't a consequence i think is all very ambiguous i don't think capitalism has the agency

people assume it does

um

capitalism

in so far as there are revolutions in the forces of production this is revolutionary

it's that simple so whether that's capitalism or something else

it's not important there was revolutions in the forces of production that happened in the twentieth century

a and there is a revolution in the forces of production that is now underway

so take make out of what you will

it has been very catholic

i don't think the u s can return was the u s ever catholic

the us is

catholic now the supreme court and the president and all branches of power are ruled by catholics

thoughts on the poleon very interesting question

i'm kind of half sympathetic to him

also the french revolution was a few revolutions happening at the same time true

true

as all revolutions are

as all revolutions are

to understand napoleon you have to understand romanticism

colonel auts and no

n know what

no h

i mean if distributism was to come about wouldn't ineviably have come with ftholicism

yeah i don't think so it's probably it's probably in context a very catholic term you know it's i'm not taking it in a back

so i understand what happened is that most of those

guys

are coopted by liberalism

most of the u s guys are popted by liberalis

re

during tocae unlikely ciustries

yes

o ok see catholic politics

you know the u s is a house chaplain the senate chaplain they wst to deal with religious stuff but apparently did an exorcism one time

and

i love to hear more about revolution being many revolutions at the same time

yeah washington actively had to fight agrarian workers making their own councils and saze rebellion yeah

see

that's what they mean

all right

ah

what s thing we should call it a rap now

you guys in the zoom

go evening te

i'm getting a bit tired

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he were car right

you want to wrap it up

us religion of the federal reserve

interest

congratulations you received a thousand messages

nice

congress needs an exorcism badly

on that note i think

think it's time to call it a rat

n

w what is what do you call it you say that's a rap

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