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bg guys we don't have time for a long intro today because one of our

our elite warriors is going to battle sdsal in ten minutes if first walk you things i got to say not buking watch his stream watch it here because i'm going to show it here not fucking give him use if you give views your band forever and you're a traitor watch it here second of all

the fucking coward is going to bring on dylan burns and dylan burn is a nerd and he's going to throw a bunch of sources at to the topic is going to be about china and africa so we need people to be in the discord in real time helping at to out with fact checking sources so whatever source dylan cia burns throws it at to we're going to be able to address it know the context and

countervail the source we so he's going to try to trap him like he did to me because randomly he brought up sri lanka then it took a little bit for someone in the chat to clarify what it actually was all about so we need to add people on stand by helping him out but he's going to be going on sun soy stream don't go no not go on wwitch stay on you

will go back on which in three days ok don't go in your twitch i'll stream it here don't go near the twitch not going near the stream we're going to watch it all here it's all going to be here ok if you give him views your bann forever go to watch it here is he's already got you guysre

a already giving him too many views he's got fifty views right now this guy's got ten views because it's been going around the discord people in our discord are giving this guy fucking views completely disgusted so disgusted you know leave his stream stop givingh views get the buck out of his stream you to get the buck out of there

or else you're a traitor the biggest traitor get the fuck out of his stream this guy fucking gets ten views per stream the only reason he's got forty right now is because of our people are in there right now get the fuck out understand no we're not deploying the

guerrillas on his stream is all going to be here understand it's all going to be here it's going to be in about eight minutes why the stream called elite warrior deployed because one of our elite warriors is going to be debating sonsy in about eight minutes about eight minutes

we're all going to be putting it here we're all going to be bucking broadcasting it here right now son so debating a big pop of fascist ok

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am i sorry

claiming are clearly a as soon as it starts i'm going to show it soon as it starts i'm going to show let's get some gririllas a sons because a you is going to win this we've got to show support for ed to to the ethiopian warriors and oj been here from day one's about to defeat son so it we get some guerrillas a sons for ed tos a lot w i'm bann from twitch that's why you can't talk to me some bad wwich

i'm banned from twitch right now

when this starts i'm going to show the street not fucking look at his street not fucking look at sgow the street

grab some food grab some snacks it's going to get bloody

we're deploying a super soldier we're deploying our super soldier to the face on the star first super soldier so d to our first super soldier our next w m d is going to be solt on later this

in be five minutes to minus five minutes debates going to startmy guy suerrillas and sons for ed to the warrior he's going to face sans sow support for ed to the warrior ethiopian warrior

i'm not going to be debating it's going to be a to he's our guy he's ore led warrior and you go to his stream just the no not buking go to his stream if i see any of you in his stream you're bann forever from mine and i know you guys are watching him right now

get the buck out of there gt the buk out of there going to be watching it here stop showing support for the species shi remember this is the guy who got me bed my first band on which not fucking give him views do not going to chat do not give im views don't go on his fucking discord do not

go anywhere near you these guys a ten viewer and he's got forty views right now because you guys he's got forty views because you guys you get the fuck out of it

what's going on a huge battles about to commence like in five minutes a huge battle a huge battle batle

empty your bladders about to start to be two minutes less they're going to delay it

might be delaying it i hope they don't delay it i'm watching don't worry you don't have to check i'm checking i'm watching daniel thing for the hundred not ths for the hundred not you wech crew to throug super chats

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debate should be starting any minute now these could be bred to reinforcements no i doubt it if anything it's going to be dylan burns stylan burn going to be coming out to help his boy sons way out the sons we can't debate you needs to see

ia dylan burns to compile a list of cia propaganda sources so we're going to have our own counterpropaganda we need people on standby the diord making sure he can't get away with those dirty tricks he's pushing it for ten fifteen minutes that's fine it's fine comt fine

going to be a uman a no this is going to be something usts going on as a super soldier the face on sol

you think the church in ethiopia still holds the arc of the covenant i don't fuck

you know me as well watch what he's talking about with big pop whatever

a pop of fashest

so we can get the chat to

actually no we're not going to get his chat fuckus chat

i will do this

he's debating big popa fascists right now a too's about to go on

i think a two's going to go on now

it's over i

ad who's going to go on it started

here we go

do we go

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i don't understand

how

oh i understand how he comes off optically more

a optically better to conservatives because conservatives have a

a short term memory of about a

oh about thirty seconds

so he can just repeat something that was agreed upon thirty seconds ago incredibly

or incredulously

right

and then the

just pretend like that's like some look at his copium

i'm so much smarter than conservatives i'm a liberal i'm so smart

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i if that's if this is what you think coping is dude then i'm he's literally a coping bitch he's a coping arrogant liberal bitch

i maan everyone is more dumb than me i'm smarter than everyone

meo do you i've said it

again this is what i mean and this is exactly what i mean

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fucking four hundred yeah we get your a pedophile son somor you pedophile i remember when you threatened to spam child pornography on my discord like you'r fucking pedophile sor bok of did and the about five hundred times after that

of the fuck of bitch but bring it to on stop fucking coping

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oh shit

how did that happen

sansy the cowarde he keeps delaying it

sonsoi just drag him up what's your excuse sonsoy

bucket pussy

howard

you know man you're talking a lot of shit now you are so respectful now is it because

your papa has is watching

you are so

why then you know like respectful and chill earlier but you know and is it because haws is watching the fuck beach wow it's really weird

not

do you think that all the

you're not letting me be on

i'm fixing my stream up

o lovely he is so the all of the infrared people watching right now would like to know how nice you were to me in d ms and in my discord and in my chat until right now sharing everything with us what are you talking about you fucking more on he was sharing everything with us

we saw everything

he shared everything with us

what is this supposed to be a fucking scandal

let me turn off the music buck and pussy

sansy little fucking bitch

rush him

brush him

hello

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if you're dalking i can't hear you

your mike looks like it's lighting up but'

hear any

or did my internet cut out or

coping

hoping

i

go to well

just hang up for a second right and then i'll drag you back in

he's trying to avoid the debate

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try now

crush him let me look

crush him

to be able to talk

try here

samsu is lying

bucking line you

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trying to see if as mike

here

i can hear is mike

doesn't work here either butody i think you need to hang up

and

check your setting

i just heard him

hello

well now i can hear you

ever got

ok really quick i'm going to try one more time to bring us into the stream collins if it doesn't work there i guess we'll have to do it here and then

bones will have to be very very

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mindful to not let anybody else in

is that it too

all right try one more time

that doesn't sound like him

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ok

rush him

what is the what is the thing

first of all

i'm not like

dick su can you

in

m s and then i'm coming here and you chat and this that's notow what it is to

thank

you were being super like ambiguous witht the time and then like i'm on a time crunch

people who are trying to watch me on time crunch i told you i told you

earlier todate that i was going to start this thing at four o'clock in then end around five thirty i was

it is five forty pm right now

what what you do't even moderate you are claiming to moderate

well they hopes well for all the people the people that were i'm poting the people that were supposed to show up to the to do the debate

didn't show up so i ended up having to do it for them

right without eighty d medicine so now here what gomup where i have my eighty d medicine

because i want to be able to concentrate on your boddy has it gone

ys to take

cia medicine

the formalities do like

they're going to end up this because your takes on china

are ridiculous

by going

the the stuff with the weager genocide the stuff with africa the stuff with asia

it's not new colonialist power you claim it to be

it's not

i wait

africa being a new colonialist what

saying in china

in their actions within the continent of africa

it's not done in a new colonialist manner

ok

well

that's

your opinion i guess

no because when i see you talk about china

and then you dillm burns fear mongering over the br i

and kind of ask go to ninety two dollars nothing somecause ust shake your mongering for scad

thank you

ok

in what way what you mean ok

would mean what way

you're shureing you i'm asking you to i me like a point a point of contention you're just saying things that i'm doing ok

ok

okay

byden

and how he acts is more anti china

then trumping because you're with fd and whisely

you have an obligation

to print out the lies that the guy's been saying

i know how you people act

ways hold on you're in youurp you're of how you're attributing p to me without actually knowing what my position is on them right on hold on hold on you yeh i know you're like chomping out the bit to me just like mr mr has right like

so really quick

you say you people and you say that obviously i'm with biden so

why why are you a sre i'm

huh

you are

at the end of the day you be out of this in

with the whole weeker genocide stuff and everything like that

you're saying like eight points at once which one of these things do you want to argue about

oka

do you think i'll go over a lall

i have a special thing at the end i actually want to get

do you think china

ok what are your thoughts

on china and a

where my thoughts of china and africa they're doing what a nation would probably be doing if they want to

you know grow as a power in the world

what do you mean what is that

like they're they're investing in nations in africa they're doing the

the belt and road initiative

where are you at

okay but what is the what is the outcome in your eyes for

well they're probably going to gain because you're acting like it's done in the quasi imperial way that america

when you

like america's

building up you're acting like

when

i'm not acting like anything yt you don't know what my position is you're not even letting me answerly using i know the language

when you say oh they're just trying to do with normal nation

good

you're aquitting

in are building up the institutions of angola

that were destroyed in the civil war

youyeare acting like when china does that

it's the same as

america building up japan

or after world war two

to be a bastion against

uh communist in the east

that's that's what i'm saying

and you'reling oh i don't know what they're i don't know what their their intentions are like if they're trying to do it as yous some sort of humility just you know their intention

i know their intentions in terms of them trying to gain some kind of like soft power in that region economically because if they're going to go in there and they're going to

invest in these nations they're probably going to expect some tim kind of

return on investment whether that's implicit or explicit right so if they're going to go in there and you're going to invest in nations and help them build up all kinds of infrastructure right

you're going to help them gain the ability to increase their productive capability

right if they can if you increase their productive capability and you've been nice to them all the sim then they're more likely to trade with you

is it is f i said anything that's in correct here

no the guy i'm just asked

that would you compare no you're accusing me of saxor like china some like

saturday morning cartoon villain right but everything i've said so far you agree with yes of course of course

so that's literally that's all i think you got that's all that all you think you fucking coward you said it was neo colonialismle mealk

because i'm saying you're equating ok

would you call what china is doing in africa

would you call what china is doing africa anything similar like the marshall

no

who disruptingly on

uh being rebuilt by a larger e power

or just being helped

ando

like would you call it

youar moose are two different things right

i'm i'm not i know i'm aware it's two different things

i thining i would probably say that the're pro i think that they're probably as far as we can tell is

just going to be a bunch of people or it's going to be a

uh china

trying to gain some kind of like economic soft power in in africa right

they're going they're probably going to overturn us here in a couple of in a couple of decades ecno always backtrack be able to have some gat wrong to c with me going all over china and then go to any other stream

and be like

oh my god the weaker genocide oh my god

i love do you want to talk do you want to talk about the weaker genocide do you want to talk about africa

all right you can move your a hold on you can move your goalpost all over the fucking place that you ant guy but i don't know if you want to talk about the weakger genocide we cound talk about the weaker gocide or we could talk about africa right you keep on you i on i you you came in here you came into my chat you've been talking big shit as soon as you came in here and hold on really quick by really quick i know i know you desperately want to impress has i know you want to desperately impress has but if you want to come

right if you want to come in here and you want to start accusing me of things that i don't believe in and then i explain that i don't believe in those things and then you freak the fuck out and say you want to change the topic as soon as i don't like to give you exactly what you want well then that's kind of your fucking problem though isn't it it's kind of your fucking problem

and maybe we should choose one topic to talk about it at a time

do it

i'm i'm not we're not even debating

right now we're not what we're doing right nows they're trying to debate what you're filing i'm presenting you

the synthesis

of all your takes on china andt one thing because it the end of the day you can claim that oh my god chin what are my takes on china

ok do want to tell you are just going to sam shifting goalpost

i'm not i'm trying to i'm trying to nails down to one fucking topic all right because you're talking about africa you're talking about china you talk about the weaker genocide wh you talking about imperialism we're talking about all sorts of things all right

so can you can you give me a quote on what' my on what my my position

of china is

what what

what is my what is my position on china we're going to talk about my position on china if it's so important tell me

oka let me do that yeah that

go ahead

you're china

you say you're a

your take

on china

after looking at the content you

put out because i've been looking at you for a little bit

h on on your stuff with china i've i saw your debate

with some people like infred

on the weak of genocide which you got

slammed on and you kind of got exposed to being i got it pretty sight hard

yeah

what do you literally just do you actually got exposed to like really really beast a how you can off they can talk about yeah please don't talk about it please i don't i can't let anybody know what what i said on that stcrem please what we' got to stop talking about we're going to talk about o know we know please don't talk about it please please

please don't talk about it oh god please you have to talk about we have to talk about s look i'm coming to you as as as a as i'm coming to you as a man coming to as a brother all right please please i'm your brother in arms i socialist to please please we don't have to talk about that please i'm begging you

aren't you like twenty six

they like i can make a five rold

nw fuck now i'm acting like a five year old

can you hold a five year old accountable for those horrible things that he said in that china video

what's my position

we're got

okay you

i'm saying your position

on china

after looking at the other stuff you said about it

relating to

your affiliation with dillingbern

who is an idiot who does not know what he's talking about

can any time of the day

debate me and let me destroy him on china and i he'll come through later andight all right you're talking to me not lm burns right now so give me what my position on china

good

come on the guy i'm sitting here waiting for you've been talking to like that you was plea is i just want my position in china

please

are you done yes i'm waiting for you the mohen you done

i'm here

okay

your affiliation with dylan bern

on a lot of in a lot of the stuff he says

and also

you're idiotic

takes on what's going on shinji

and also

how you interact with people who are pro china online

gives me no reason but to believe

that you have very

bad

the viewpoints on china

and we will disagree on in our in china and africa we will disagree

in the weaker genocide i'm just saying that

up front because for the last ten minutes you have been help and

uninterrupting so now

that is your that what i just said right now

that is the synthesis

of what i understand

you to believe in china

okay

so really quick

i wrote down all three of those points

the three points that you just listened off to me on my position on china is

that i have an affiliation with dylan burns

i have an idiot take on the weaker genocide and i have an association with other people

so what part of what is my take on china

know the third part is that how you treat prochin of people online

and the way completely slander in your own discurd ser in general check not even like a private oject

in general chad you slander people like comrade who were veggs gorere the same person

yeah i made fun of her i made fun of her because she came into that chat she talked with an accident and said presented herself as a chinese person even bad ipanad that's a complete lie she didn't at she didn't talk with an accd in not i never talked with an accents a complete lie he's lying

he's publicly lying

self she was not she was not

m are you talking about

she's not faking an accent that and you

i think that i think that she was doing some kind of like online yellow he's a fucking liar we even brought chinese people on and caking lie point to much

t's go on that point

let's go on that point

that's going that point where with the

comrades wll comrad w

p on the point why is that digital yellow

because i've actually been in a d c ir

now you a debate

a situation but in a in a casual conversation multiple times

with this woman and she's not thinking acc and she's a normal person

she's not

she's just an immigrant to china doo

she likes china like like just stop going too much into is that oh yaes no i don't don't look into this woman who calls herself comrade who hides her face and also

s like tries tries her damndest to like hide the fact that she's white when she's talking she never hit it whatsoever she never hit it it was never hadk never hit it's ab it's abut

it's ok so if i if i s if i win if i if i moved hold on hold on really quick if i moved to ethiopia right

if i moved to ethiopia right i started

right and if i go to ethiopia and i started

you know like hiding hiding my skin color on in my photos and shit

and i kind of like

kind of talked a little bit with a little b accent

right he talking about hiding skin of color with photos you justn't have any photos what are you talking about

talk about my my

my y

colonialism at all right

would you say that that's me like pretending to be an ethiopian person

online ok let me let's talk about eesthiopia

because you know we're talking about comrade leu is we not mo we're not going to move all over the place but you know you know i'm giving you i'm giving you a counter example ok yea becaus you is the worst example

there is a town

in ethiopia

called schesha many

right and this town

is where rostafarians you know about rosta forarans right the phillya

you

yeah yeah yeah

these people

these rosters

they go to shasha maini

they go

they settle down they get a home

they sometimes change their name to a traditional name of the area and a park

a they similly they do the best di similing european culture

that's what they're doing it's like

wi would you call these people ethio face or whatever trying to do e you face these

well that would just be the lack of by s right that would just be black face right but we're talking about

right

so what i'm saying is

they're not pretending to be black online they're not like trying to sell something because they're fan of the cult

i've met

rosters

mm

have nothing but love for ethiopia do

and they're not like trying to appropriate my culture do they just appreciate the culture

and i respect him for

and chinese people look at comrade and they respect her for it

because she actually makes the effort it's not required

but she actually makes the effort

to

to try to to

you know not even asseimbly but just a

appreciate chinese culture in such a way

mm okay i guess it's just appreciating culture to to like appropriate and like sell yourself as being how when did see you that

just i know you're streaming show your face but not everybody's obligated to oh no no no but if i was if i was like

someone that was too cowardly to show my face i wouldn't

like hide my identity behind some other call let me see

i'm right but you're not trying to hide it you're not trying to pretend to be some other culture right you're not trying to you never did like w never did youulture that you're not actually a part of

she was representing what she was trying to represent a culture right that she like

is has moved to as if she is someone that is

part of that culture has been part of that culture and like fully

is like involved in it like one hundred percent and it's like part of not what she's doing that's not what she's

like you've you've seen like

two of her replies on twitter

when she was asked

why do you

have a chinese name on your twitter handle whatever

and then you

take this information

and then youusay and i take that information plus the i take that plus

that was the interaction that i had plus the interaction what about chinese people who come to america and have american names

doing a little bit of a weird thing with the with the cultures all right

good

that that's such a bad point

and by the way the only bad point is you being brought up here is the fact that you're going to like die on the hill of someone that's like appropriating the culture of some other country i di you appropriate any tm to be i di see appropriate anything

h wait wait i'm not

i'm not dying on the hill for anybody because first of all

nothing is going to come out of this

no one's going to cancel it or whatever

i'm not trying to cancel her

at the end of the day what power do i have the canduler right

people know you're being an idiot

and

the people know yeah they love it there people know i'm going to be an idiot because i i'm the guy that you are and i the i can't stick to one fucking point by the way what's my position on china

ok it's new colonialism

you think it china's new colonialism

ok

to what due to what thing that i've said okay that's you ask i'm trying to i'm trying to understand like what why you get to that position

going back to comrad because we're going to adjust every

so going back to call right so no know what are we going to comrade who are going to neo colonialism all right what takes have i had about china are is saying that they are new lits tod china nucll i've seen your debates

all right the'll give me a take so we can de so we can argue about instead of just like giving out like random fucking overarching themes about what my ideology is you can give me what my fucking position is right

no i'm trying to get down to the original topic that we both agreed to talk about right i actually wrote down these four fucking points

right

about what my position on china is or right and then you said it was three and then you just made up a plant and

you

you asked me to add another one and then i wrote it down

yeah no no i'm saying you so then so yeah so so three plus one equals for my guy all right sothing man please for the love of god i do is fk is one topic right we one topic alreaighty you' going to talk about my position on chins getting fuked by a new the topic i'm changing the topic right i'm going to take the l i'm going to take the l really quick we're going to talk about my position on china and i want you to tell me what my position on china is

plus another point

equals out to three do replacing a point

wef have three points

and you're rasing another one

and then replacing it with a different point you're ending out with three points i

i just had to confirm you know basic meth

what's my position in china

okay

so you don't know any

but the

you're trying know which you said in your debate with yllan byrne

is that it's new colonial

that's what you saidk and i said it was neocutionus doue to what point do to what reason

what do you mean what that that's you

you said right so know i'm asking you since you seem to know so much about my positions on fucking everything you wrote all down wrote down all these fucking

b and like what you call it nw columialus

why did you disagree with us

h like i know it's not the same reason but why did why did you think you disagree

with haz on china other than the weaker genocide

ok so the reason i disagree with haws on china is because

i don't like authoritarianism i don't like ser like mass surveillance of citizens or do because you think china is excorting its authority on african countries on asian

which it's not

and we can i'm sorry i really quick really quick can you repeat to me what i just said

what do you mean

repeat to me what i just just said you said

i don't like china because it's authoritarian but

that doesn't explain and then

which is which is on the record we have it on the internet and then i said after i said the authoritarian bit what did i say after that

shine a backtrack

he's trying to backtrack when you call and you ca inust no you cut me off after i said the bit about the mass surveillance right there's like something about the way that they don't you which citizens

i said there authorityive i don't like the way they have last surveillance ok so you cut me off then all right cool

so like there's a couple of reasons i don't like china right

so

if we want to talk about any of these points we can if we want to talk about neo colonialism sure we can absolutely talk about neo colonialism let's fucking go you know it was always so may you so when one nation so when one nation right really quick so when one nation

or i goes like impose imposes its power on to another nation

economically or militarily

right

in order for itself to have some kind of gain what is that called

uh i don't know

tell me

because i

i know qwami in cuma's definition of neo colonialism the guy who actually coined the term and wrote the masterful work

of

uh new colony was blastic

fearless i know his death

but both but what are you trying to describe to what reality are you trying to explain with words tell me

i'm talking about colonialism

okay

he's using vague words

sonsuls youvain al right did you mention that

playing round with word because china

is imposing

economic

or and or military power in order to control other countries yeah or it control areas of land or sea

okay

oh do you think any of the stuff is happening in africa

economically maybe yeah

okay uh

tell me where you're having go

suspicions of china doing this stuff in africa

you so desperately want to talk about africa and i told you in d ms that i don't know like you hard you you

it comes from a freeze a leftist fraeze

in ethiopia which means

ya ethiopia

grat

ha dosius be begun it means that ethiopian left needs a renissance

that's the phrase that wle way of obsessed about

the

of course you're asking me why i'm so obsessed with africa

well

you because i'm i'm i'm comfortable talking about china and i told you i'm uncomfortable talking about like the deep intricacies of

geopolitics in africa right

so you keep on trying to switch it over to africa i told you i told you maybe it does right maybe sans i say i said right n s that it seems like it's a possibility but in general the position that i take on it in the way that i defend

of china's actions in terms of like the belt and road initiative is

that there's no other nation on earth that wouldn't also be doing the same thing if they had the economic power to do it

so i'm not really fucking mad at them about like belton road initiative stuff like that investing in other countries

so they can get some kind of soft power in those areas right

if america wants to be so angry about it they should just do better

okn

you said maybe china is doing these new colonialist actions

where in africa smission so we can o

oh yes in africa fifty four countries in africa

so right no but like we can look at the things that they're doing we can look at things that they're doing in like the south rying to see we' gon look at things that they're doing like the south trying to see that are like

i woulday colonial's like when they're like in invading other

they're not go so fucked stupid sea space and the it's its own territory how is it being ponilist against its own territory this ar shoal where they're making it to where filipino 's fellow filipino filipino fishers can't go go to the filipino fishermen we go to the filipino fishermans right we go

you think that that might be some kind of

wa would you exert some kind of power over another country

the philippines debate has also come

direct you on that no that's not even coming from like i'm affiliate with the guy

what is it what is this you ws you have to do with right to said about the scarborough sholl

but regardless you said maybe in africa

theres this stuff is going on so show me

where you have this

ishion

give me the general area at

want talk about you want to talk about kenya

we want to talk about how the the famous court of molbasa that do you know it wait did you or did you really think wait really quick

did you really think that you could like come in here and try to talk about something that i said i didn't want to talk about

son you could like force like when you go that g of the conversation because i doee you know i'm comfortable talking about

if you're not smart enough if i can talk about something about it like china then we can talk about we can talk about literally anything else

ecialism in general or whatever

yeah anybody who was watching the screaen

listen to songsill say he thinks maybe new colonialism and colonialism is going on in africa

and then when i say i heard your suspicions of where this is happening he refuses to show me

wait hold on you go youre you're complete you're so fucking you're so desperate you're so desperate right because immediately after i said that i said

but in general the way that i would go about talking about this is that china is doing what any other nation might be doing right there just like like

investing and like building a roads i sa canl colonialism is also it's colonialism if it's any other country but if china does it suddenly it's just like

but it's like you know t like sparkling water unless it's from like the specific region of france rightd d so now you knowo you

now

you just want me to you want to tell me you didn't prepare at all

debate

n know i didn't prepare for this debate because i think you're here i think we fuk stupid and you're in yourre is de yeah definitely dispair right now there is a reality that uma described

and his masterful but ok we're not talking about him right now no we're talking about china right yw it's you africa that you some exist

perpetuated by the french perpetuated by the americans perpetuated by the belgian

he talked about this reality in his book

yeah i don't disagree that that i don't disagree that western powers are engaging in neo colonialism either

right

what do you mean either

now you're implicating china this china is not being ne a colonist

you said maybe china is doing it in africa to show me

tell me let's break it down

express your susfpiciioncy

i want we've already but we've already been over this

i just i just said like we're going to move on to like china because i told you ind ms i didn't want to talk a cically because you can't

know because you said that you want to talk about my takes on china you said you want to talk about my takes on china and now you're asking me about my takes on africa

what are you talking about

i'm talking about i as explain to me what my what my positions onre on china and thent righty i can hold on really quick right

he's calling him boy he's a racist piece of shit he's calling him boy because he's black

sansoy got caught

got funck

you're like ok so that's cool but anyway africa but anyway africa but anyway africa right

let's talk about china my friend because i don't know enough about africa i mean i'm i'm taking the l i'm taking the l my friend

i'm taking the oll i don't know enough about africa i don't know i don't you ost all fucking geopolitan political

knowledge in my head when i joined the v c and i couldn't even use yeah i took the l in the v c when you joined the s you couldn't figure out how to use your fucking mike and then you sputtered for forty five fucking minutes about whatch topic we're going to talk about first yeah i tookl

you didt take the

so what do you want to talk about next were side you want to talk about south china see

what

first of all

your statement before where you said

oh

dacity says

oh my god i'm going to come to your dm and say oh let's talk about china and the now you're saying no let's talk about africa

no that's not what it is at all that's littlelyve been happening for the last ime twenty five minutes i'm trying to get us on topic i chin knows i can talk about china because i don't know enough about africa let me know when you don talking

i'm i'm i will only start talking i will only start talking if you try to move the conversation back to africa because that's not something that we're going to talk about because i don't know enough about it wy

because i don't know enough about it

so i feel comfortabing new colonialism might happen in africa if you don't know anything but you just didn't

but

we how are these are these statements at all contradictory

it might be

's a contradiction

dude you literally said i don't know anything about africa i don't know enough about africa

but like

minutes before you said nw co new colonialism might be occurring

in africa by china and i'm not trying to bring theod be right

i'm

ok express me your suspicions onue we don't we've already been over the the extent of my knowledge on it my dude like you're you're doing all this like a laouding imposturing but it's not doing anything for you because i've already told you that i don't know enough about this one topic to have right i'm telling you that i'm telling you that just like in other nations that try to invest in other countries so they can get some kind of benefit right

it's possible that in doing that they could be engaging in some kind of

neo colonialism

right but i don't know enough about the kind of actions that china is taking specifically in africa in order to get some kind of

economic gain

so therefore

right it could be happening but i don't know enough about it

this is a completely logically consistent answer

no it's not

because now you why back now you're trying to go back to your preview ok let me show you

you're trying to go back to your previous statement where it's like

o you know china is just doing what any nation does when they just invest

in in a country that they think they might get a payof yeah and if a country if if another country were to go into and really let me let me let me ask you becaus this wll this wll this will answer our questions right if another country went into a country if another country like the u s or france or england

went into africa and they started investing in

like doing a lot of economic development in those nations right could that be seen as neo colonialism

wait france simply just investing in countries

i'm saying

yeah we're just talking about what

just coming and say we're going to expand this year and i'm saying that the government of france the government of france

right

engaging in some kind of economic deal

with a country in africa

right

the context depending on what that deal is why would the content know colonialism

no without any other information without any other information times wll rot

right down a point right down you cole yousen would disagree with

thanks meandesca no ok

do you want to reach you the definition of neo colonialism

i'm not like all that interest to be honest i me' i'm more interested in going on to china becae that's what i agreed to talk about wll ever see this video

i read you the definition of colonialism

so you can exempt

china from this disgusting practice

that has ruined the lives

of almost one billion

you

so now let me read it

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what a literal fucking pussy he muted in

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son soy fuk and s the united states

it is possible a new colonial control may be exercised by consortium of financial interest

who are not specifically identifiable with any particular state the control of the congo by great

uh international uh great

international finances

is case in point

the essence of new colonialism is that

states which is subject to it in theory is independent and has all the outward trappings of international sovereignty

in reality it's economic system and that's its political body it's directed from the outside that is not the case with any country that does business with china

so

so do you have any suspicions now of china engaging in your colonialism

in africa

it might be happening

go i just

i just read you so it's so i know you did i know you did but i tuned up because i've been waiting for like the how long have we been talking fucking like plo minutes

yeah go ahead we can read all you can you can post all fucking five thousand words of that essay you just read out

into my chat

all right

no it is a sort ofine fucking game

well you took a long goddamn time to say it all right

i'm waiting to talk about

it something that i agreed to speak about right

it's over

ok

w on you want to talk about

your incessant

okay okay we uh we can talk about a lot of stuff

are you aware of my position

tier

i don't know a god damn thing about you

you have

fucking too like less than two hundred ills the on you tube i know

do look at your chauvinistic chack ass reside

no one cares about the topic

no dude i don't care if you'r western chouvinist

brain doesn't care about the topic

on you can drow out all these fucking us were talking fucking one just please pick a topic and i didn't know i didn't listen

lk look buddy really quick really quick this is super fun and all that really quick i love you listen you know i love you right if we can't thicking if we can't fuck and pick a topic

like soon

this i'm going to end the call because it is fucking boring

can we pick a topic i don't care i need to educate you

before you go i didn't i didn't invite you want to get educated by you i and i invited you i want to get in order to get in order to debate you ad it you requested i debate you that you come on to fucking lecturing with new colonialism

yeah you blew me the fuck out you you super you super blew me the fuck out i'm so proud of youh i oh my god

i'm hurting oh god you blew me the fuck out ust ah you blew me the fuck outs now where else in the chid read me the definition ah read me another definition

else in the side

eles in the chair

you have no same

im not i have no shame when talking to people like you no

pre fucking game

so do you want to do you have another topic that like i had agreed to talk about in the beginning that you're like that

ready to talk about now he's done

he's done

ok we can go over ur stuff

uh yea can i ask you a question

sure

pret fucking gam you think

the infred show destroyed you with your debate on the weaker genocide

we fucking gam

like to be honest i'm sure oh my god you're you're fm you you actually can't falcking you actually you know wo hold on really quick really quick you actually are not debating me you're coming on to talk about someone else's accomplishment you can't n know you can't you can't gain your own accomplishments you you're riding up the hotels of something that someone else's dirty days ask me about my position on something so we can debate

it's a proxy war what you're debting me as if you're infrared

what it what is what is digital

are we going over that again i'll be moving back to something else because you're too fucking stupid argue about the weaker genesize

are you so fucging it are you so fugging insecure about any position that you hold that you can't debate it with me ontream

only and you can only and you can only reference back to someone else's accomplishments

on stream or perceived ac commplix and it leust be really

so you recognize as an accomt

okay

ceived

what is digital

what is digital yellow face when someone pretends to be a chinese person online

okay

how is comrad ex we've already been over this my guy

do you think do you think that do you think that uh the chinese should be throwing people into um let's let's just call them

the vocational centers like you guys believe they are do you think they should be able to they should be able to nder this woman you've never met

yeah and if she wants to come on and defend herself s'm more than welcome to if s want to come on and she wants to defend herself she's more than welcome to look look she's look i hope she sees this king and i hope she sees this king but she's not going to fuck you all right so please can we talk about something actually of substance holy funky shit dude why you sexualize

because you're white nighting so god damn hard and i want to talk about a political topic or something holy shit

why do we have to talk about politics

sm

why can't because that's what my show is a boalance and you are you asked me to debate not about something political opul you

ud youre the definition of the soy age me

you're you're sitting here in my chat r

and now you won't even debate about anything unless you're going to fight hre fucking sit here in white night for other people

i can't fucking believe

we didn't debate about china you just fucking you wast fuking about gof of it so that you could talk about the one topic you know about

you're such a fucking laughing stock my doing it holy shoit ire such a fucky laughing stock because i said yeah i don't feel comfortable talking about africa don't knowut the specifc area of the world but i'm i'm comfortable talking about just about anything else all right so if you want tok about and then you said yeah let's fuck and go we can talk about anything else

and then you know what we get on to the thing and you have to fuck and resort back to comrade wo because you're so fucking

so desperate for a little bit of attention from her and you what i'm referencing fucking into it becausere so desperate for some kind of some kind of attention from him right i thin's our mod gt you're doing the middle school shit because you are not willing to bing your own fucking point attention the requests literally our modo he's literally doing this

say something we all of us knowing about it already with the folks he talking about go back with the

we debated by africa

in china and africa

so now we're going to debate

about china in general when it comes to the world

so that's ok sure

yeah i'll do it

we fucking gam

what what's your position i'm asking you what do you think are what's your position

okay

chinau

people's republic of china

is doing great strides when it comes to liberating the peoples of the world

from the clutches of neo colonialism brought about

by

the political and intellectual wes

ok

my position on china is that it is a

economic superpower that will probably soon take over the uus

economically i don't like

particularly the way that they

m engage with their their citizens in terms of

mass surveillance

or

that the way that they o and yeah sure

and or in terms of like the shinjong region

i

outside of that i think that they're just like another country

but so you like you have nothing to say about what's going on south

see hear did you forget that that

oh yeah i mean we can talk about the south trying to see and how they like neo colonialists in in that way right how they're like imposing their will and trying to expand their borders all over the place that in places that don't really necessarily see them

um as being the the rightful owners of that area right like weuld talk about like tibet or we could talk about the philippines or the south tra sy in general right yeah

ight

ok he says jokeor laughing all right i'll make

you

bye bye

okay

so let's talk about massi be

what a

thank

you have problems with like

for

the social credit system or something like that like

i mean yeah that's kind of weird too right

would you have a qualm with like video game

i mean that would be probably be part of the social credit system as well like making sure that people are

you know

not doing bad things

constantly knowing where everybody is at all times fucking

i

i

censoring a whole bunch of shit on the internet

you know all sorts of s it knowing what people say on the internet

like what cens your w

you know mosticial media site thating i

well censoring all sorts of websites that reach the outside world y

to

infrared is censored with the fugs he talking about and the rest of africa ha a great we get censorre actually got a contract

for all

the chinese social media i wish we had that

but

on the question of censoring social media

what do you care

they have you know chinese people have their own domestic alternatives

which are better

then then the american

who cares

what do you mean by better so

i mean that we can discuss about the sepurity of youys whate that's i don't care about the youyes what the fuck do you think i care about

what whit what

why i would here about that i' just i'm americas alsoensor there social media america sensor to the fucking briming you why do you care do you honestly not do you domt

or do you not know do not understand why like being able to share ideas with all over the world and having kind of

open communication with all over the thatd doesn't exist in america for citizens in a cod ofy talking about

uh

that doesn't exist like anywhere on

where do you where do you live

i can just say's contant i don't thinkhu the open discourse with like

i don't know if i'm not to say this

i i'm not going to say it

but it's a

organizations that promote

of radical religious

doctrine

i don't think we should have open discourse of those people

not what

what

what does that to do with my point we sense of th i can talk to people i can talk to people in

in england and in germany and in fuck in japan and

in australia that's a fucking click of amout the chinese people there talk to people internationally united states

that the flow of information can go all over the world

instantly

right

you don't think

dude you think like china is like permit kingo doomt that like

it's like in it it's like snow and i don't think i don't think it's nearly as bad as someplace like north korea right

but

there is certainly a lot more censorship there than i would be comfortable with in my

country right it is in your country you fuck an idiot

what is your country

a the united states

united states you don't think there's like incredible amounts of like there's a there's a lot of surveillance here right and i don't like that

ext an incredible amount of surveillance

ya do you think co went to a prob like and do something

you're not engaging with what i'm saying whatsoever

do you like

ok so when when there are countries that are

censoring the ability for for

ideas to flow outward or inward into the country

the problems with that

could be in terms of

you know what if there are some kind of like human rights orgnations that are going on hold on really quick

so say that there's some kind of human rights abuse going on in that country i'm not saying chinaight i'm just saying in like

some imaginary country that has

human rights abuses

but their country censores any kind of outward

um

any kind of outward

a communication right

do you think that that might be a problem

uh in this fictional country i think the people themselves within it

should be able to uh

no consult

their governments and what noto

wo have the convers the government that's doing human rights abuses is the is the thing that you're telling them to appeal to here instead of

just

just like

take yous there's very easy position that it's a good thing when people around the world are able to communicate with each other you think america's discourse with its people

i think they

i'm not talking about america discoursing with its people i'm talking about you we know ameros no no no no no i want you to answer my t you no i want you to answer my estion operation wasn' no listen my buddy my friend all right

we're talking about citizens talking on the internet we're talking aboutzens we're talking about citizens we're talking about citizens on the on the internet talking to people across the ocean r across borders

right you could do not my governments right now but but right

i'm talking do you see any benefit

to people

and other countries being able to freely communicate

what do you mean

making a case for american i mean what does it freely communicate even mean to

mean you are right now talking on the internet

we are freely communicating right we can do that china

i'm going to try this one more time a are you good i'm going to try this one more time

because i don't think that you actually know do is facebook allowed in a

is facebook alowed in china facebook is the most censor censorship prone platform the're boking in

is you to

you tube centres everything

i don't know

is twitter

americano has produced no know you know this has nothing to do with consumerism has nothing to do with consumerism you dne piece of shit holy shit listen the reason why it would might be a good thing for a country to not censor these weysites necessarily is because there's a bunch there's a bunch of people from other world from other countries that are there that you can like so in terms of like when were when we see p

people in the united states posting videos from the black lives matter movement where there's cops running over people and shit right and people in other countries see that the cover the governments in other countries

can n respond to the things that are happening here in america and condemn them

right they going to do the mary neten two canadian dollars through super chats what are they going to do against hes about you do know think you go as s a person that looks like me it pressures the government do things

like what

like at least acknowledge that the that the police are like running over people we got banned from ering gz you not know during the b l m did you not notice that during the b l m did you not knowice that during the b l m protest that when the cops were beating the fuck out of everybody that they saw that was

a marching with b l m

that people got upset at them all over the fucking world and the government doesn't ha china which doesn't happen in china

well

and a lot of places and a lot of places they had to start imposing like new laws on the on the police

what did he do to the george floyd uh

killing or or the murder and it wasn't due to the george w it was due to the police response to people

now do i think that it was like yes far as as far as it like necessarily should have gone but

for instance people in other countries stop selling

uh the uh

tear gased to to the united states because the police stations were using them so hard against our citizens right

and so it led to a

a lack of that resource and cops were didn't have any to use on people

in certain areas

dude that's a good thing right th like the local police station

not being able to like

ok a local police engine not being able to p tear gas to tear gass the fuck out of black people who are ask you don't think china's dynanomic doing china doesn't have that social media dynamism influencing policy what i'm not saying that you knowll then it would be so in this case the fact that we have social media that reaches across the oceans and across borders right is a good thing because it

can lead to a pressures on our government itself

no social media should be abolished all over the world

well thatss different conversation right but

theres a siple thinge to say because like interesting

like the most like random stuff

in the most like strang i'm saying things that are completely noncontroversial that being able to communicate with people across borders is a really really good thing in terms of being open with communication right

and generally speaking more communication being more open with communication is a good thing for citizens and not for governments because the more that people are able to ca

to can communicate with people outside of their country

the less that

less control guntr's government has over those people

verd

george flyd is your only example you know there's so many other no n know it's not the only example itt the most recent example i've been propagated do you disagree with the statements that i just said and nothing hold on really quick do you do agree with that i just said

what that freedom information is good

freedom is freedom of information is good for citizens and not for governments

what does so social media is like the end all be all no it's not the end all be all it's one example of things that china is taking away from its citizens that makes it harder for them to communicate with world social media

they have social media they have social media that is

state sanctioned that they can control the language on

wll you don't think social media in the united states is state sanctioned

w i i cannot believe that you think do you think that the government owns twitter and facebook it basically does yeah

you think it you think govern

this is a problem with you angle guys you think oh i thins because i'm anglo yeah please inform me about how anglo how my anglicism is informing my opinion on social media

you fucking fuck holy shit this is so few fucking boring you don't know how information hewp gave up all siged as to one top he gave up the sig of talk over aring dude he gave up he you got heres born and you got it right here me talk and you fuck them right here do you think social media in america

like this is a problem dude

you think

not

actually controlling it not having like joe bidens name under twitter

you think that doesn't like indicate like

extreme power influence no ude

that's know that the government does have unbelievable control on social media

if the government had extraordinary control over social media then why why was donald trump able to get banned off of twitter

during his presidence that's such a non is

but who do the guy could impost

that you really think that shows that twitter is liketand well if the government had control and the leader of that government got banned off of the fucking platform it might seem re you know there's some kind of there's some kind of lack of control that they might not have

but trump isn in the government you fuck and umt fuck

the d c that's does that not make sense dos i'm sorry is that completely non point i they only did it after the election information being able to benhing pining gof twitter or whatever they haven no no does does not understanding my point whatsoever

let me tell you something dude when they banned trump

i was after all his influence

he could ever exert

the american political arena was exhausted

after his election after he lost

after he was publicly ridiculed all over the world all over america he was still he was still he was still the president of the united states if the know you had a complete hold on no no no no no if the government has complete control over social media and the president of the united states got banned off of twitter you're implying that the government of the united states has enough power to to censor the highest office in the land

all right

what do you think w you think that the highest you do you think that the highest office in the land was censored by his own government

what

f you think do you think that that the united states government censored donald trump

what do you mean sense of donald trumps they did then sure yes they did

the united states government did

ok cool all right well i guess like you you win this argument because you're like

you live in such a fantasy you i can yeah you doen you because you live in such a bucking your fantasy way and i could never i could never ever compete with you just because you'll just accept anything that might help your argument

ok let me actually tell you something let me let tell me something bouty i'm so proud of you i'm proud of me do not tell me something super hard are actually

the the the the the liberal ideals of like

being able to post whatever you want which doesn't exist in america

say whatever you want which also doesn't say li uh

happen in america all these liberal valu they can are is the speech controlled by the government

yes on the pedestal all these values

but let me tell you something

people that people actually want in the third what people actually want

con actually one of the know people don't like to people don't like it if people actually enjoy it when they get fucking thrown in jail for

and for you know there tking against the government san so is retarded

you don't think that freedom of speech is good for socialists who want to expand class consciousness throughout their country when god i say that because i'm talking about the freedom of speech my friend i'm talking about freedom of speech and china doesn't have a freedom of speech

ok as opposed to what's dude as opposed to moy countrys freedom speech

it doesn't do it doesn't have it doesn't have perfect freedom of speech but it has more freedom of speech than china does

oh

oh my god

you don't have feis speech in china storry you in america

you don't have it in america

assans free assi right now say and that i hate the government and i hope that the that the the government

is w that

my why spred hamton dead

why is fred haimpton dead why is i'm in debd

well he was off he was killed

alright

by w it wasn't the f b i or the cia or something

who's that song so now we're getting somewhere

i cannot be thrown in jail i you know know the unit states government

i'm not going to say here and die on the hill of the united states government is like fucking amazing and hold on you'res you're ating like i'm sitting here i just like ucking you know you united sates cost like i understand this you're talking about you're talking about america like i love it and is like this is fucking country that never done any wrong yeah i mean like fuck america too but you can't defend you can't defend hold on you can't defend china without saying that actually america's war is

when obviously america probably has a little bit like more las a fair freedom of speech

and thean china knows they don't what do you say do you' you think that do if you speak out on do you think i me speak out against the hold on eally question dude my guy do you think that if you speak out against the the

chinese communist party

in china

that you'll just like me like totally chill and like knowo one you literally will you literally have my heart your social feelings literally will literally wre right now and i literally will be fine i don't like the c c p you think if i said that

yeah nothing will happen to me

nothing

no

it's true okay

you can't organize nothing subtantial i won't be killed like fred hampton who is actually speaking the truth against the united states governments discusting treatment of the colis people of the world

i'm not sitting here defending america you just cans war can't defend china without s you all your flting you no no no because you're just because you're too ight just because you're too fucking stupid to understand it id that i can cut simultaneously not like america also simultaneously not like china you're just not intelligent enough to understand like the idea that you can hate multiple things at once right

what

like you understand that i don't have to like sit here and die on the hill that america is like the best nation in the world wile sit saying that china doesn't have as like

as fre as much freedom of speech

i'm saying you first of all you were the one that engaged in the comparison of the united states and china when you said my country has yes yeah but what yours but the dichotomy that you'r leg is goause here no no you're doing you're doing a false dichotomy

i'm saying we have more but not per there is that i you're the one that presented me that i caugt no

no oh my fucking god i'm saying that you can have more or less not that america's freedom of speech is perfect

right

america has no free speechod

do you know a guy named juan asange

yeah

the way you don't do y sense

yeah

what about

so you know all the stuff going gone about

you know

the heroic things he's done

the heroic things he's done were why that when edward snowden steps foot in america he'll be killed

i mean that's not a great thing right

i don't think it will hold on i don't know if you'll be rilled that might be that might be a that might be a little bit he'll definitely be arrested i don't know if he'll just like immediately get fucking off the guy has a trees in chart talking about

do you think the reasons immediately means that someone like snipes him from like as soon as he now he said buckan idiot we know

you know treason is a capital

punishment it's a coup right does that mean that he just like immediately gets you sa if you steps fot america he will be goi that eever said on sites

where like at the second he steps for the veric i'm saying he will be arrested and he will be killed

because he exposed america used the great freedom of speech you're talking about and he used it and that's why he has a death i didn't say we have perfect freedom of speech and also freedom of speech doesn't extend to everything right

was like talking about exposing america that they've been leakingly classified documentan not protected speech

you fucking fa why whycheking speech exactly are you going because because if you were to if you were to hold on if you were if you were to leak a classified document say say we were at war with someone and then you leaked a classified document we did w w stop stop stop youre go because youre or whistleblower

you know that right there are whistleblower laws right but you have to go through specific like channels in order to do that

right

that's what the was it as it is china has a just second that's a different conversation than what you're saying you realize that right that's a different claim

no i'm saying what no no i'm saying all the stuff because it

with uh

emphasizes my argument that america doesn't have free speech

it doesn't have free

this in america you are you recognize are you are you capable of recognizing that there's not it's not either all free speech or no free speech

same thing in china

wos no hold on to answer that question are you able to recognize that someplace might have more freedom speech or less freedom of speech china has more than the u s do you think

are you capable of i do you think no it's a yes or no question ok

i can sometayes have abilities what

do are some is it possible that someplace could have more or less

freedom of speech without having

like all the way like

complete freedom of speech and or all the way no freedom of speech

i'm aware of that why ok cool so that's my entire fucking point that china has less freedom of speech than the united states thank you very much now that we've us that's fine point now that we finished that fkingt let me move on to another one let me ask you some let me ask you

let me ask you something what do you think is a rational restriction to freedom of speech

die in america

but the liberal enlightenment value of freedom of speech itself what do you think is a

rationll

uh way to restrict that

what do you think is a excuse to restrict that

i

putting people's lives in danger that is unwarranted

okl give me an a chinese government jug and youire in a crowded theater

you don't think like something will happen to you withf you shot fired a crowd a theater in china

yes i think that's a that's that's obviously a bad thing and that's something that you mean that's

like leaking classified documents if if they're battle plans if you're like at war say we were at war the nazis and someone leaked battle plans and then the nazis we know what edward snowden did no i know i know that right i you didn't ask me for what edward snowden you asked liberal enlightenment right actually so which question do you want me to answer conceded

is it because i was disrespectful of me

i have honor and i at you can see that that was disrespectful of me

so i proceed

ok so if we were so if w during world war two when we were fighting the nazis if someone leaked out classified battle plans right and then they went the nazis ended up winning the war right that would be a bad thing that's one another that's like another reason

to y to restrict some level of freedom of speech because you can't just leak those sorts of things right co

the correct

anything else you think there's any other rush i mean like what are you getting at here like we can we can actually engage with your ideas on this

or i can like endlessly just come up with more examples

no i'm saying that the

the conditions of how speech is treated in china

first of all you have to acknowledge

america in china are two completely different places a

different cultures

the the the liberal

enlightenment revolution

that happened in america was not replicated in china it's not national value

there was attempts to bring that

uh liberal revolution in china airfaild some yetson at the end of the day failed

so i need like

you have to acknowledge that

that they're different places i can acknowledge that they're different places i'm not expecting s to be course no the hold on i'm not expecting china to just like like do like everything i' exactly the same way as the united states i'm just saying that having a greater amount of freedom of speech

is is a is a good thing in a country and the amount of freedom of speech that china has is not a good thing

how do you know

if you if you if you if you expres if you ex hom s if you express any kind of

dissent to the chinese communist party on wrong you were like talking in a chat room what is disturb

what is the sen

saying i don't like the cut chinese communist party and i think that the like say that they said they were hold on really quick let's just let's jus assume let's just assume that someone was talking about the the weaker genocide and they thought that the weaker genocide was a thing and they were talking about that in china do you not think that that might like lead to some sort of negative consequences by the government

you have an example in any law or any

weill like example that this happens

um ya

hold on where

sir

let me see if i

can remember which research document i have of this

show me the research dock

well yeah i mean like if people when people ask me for sources i kind of have to have a repository for those things right

you're right

you're right

ok i'd like to see an example in which

we're claiming there is a weaker genocide in china will get prison time or any punishment from the chinese government i'd like to see that

let's see what this person said

maybe i'll be faster

mmhmm

oh yeah this guy did yeah this guy for sure i remember the story of this guy

a chinese mixed martial artist who is known for challenging and fighting fraudulent martial artists

so this guy he went the chinese girl was try i don't work with headlines to link it

oh this is just a wikipedia article where i was going to explain to you what happened o

i'm linkoln i i'm linking it i'm linking it oh my god backcheckers get ready

all right so this dude right

the chinese government was doing this thing where they wanted to

i

uh i'm sure i gon't okay ya the

the idea of like traditional chinese martial arts right and this guy was an mmm a fighter right

and they were so the he would like fight the traditional chinese martial artists

and he would blow them the fuck out because they were

peddling

you know like they were like channeling their chea

and i

and saying that they could do like the one one inch finger punch

right and knock someone the fuck out

and he would go against them and he would just beat the fm because he was using i makes martial arts

so this guy was trying like perpetuate like stereotypes or whatever

like about chinese martial arts like i i i i di

like they were telling him they were telling him to lose in the fights to make the traditional chinese the traditional chinese martial arts look really good and he wouldn't do it because he believed in the kind of fighting that he was doing

right because he didn't want to look like a total idiot getting fucked up

by someone doing a one feet one inch finger like knockout punch right with their chee

and so he would beat the fuck out of them right in these like inimate fights and he got

absolutely fucked by the government his social credit score went super down he got so many negative repercussions by the government

so yes

i can point to an instance where the government was censoring people for like dumbfuck reasons all the black lis matre people are disab but let's take a couple steps back

because it took like eighty weeks to

first of all this isn't about the beker genocide but i will still pass that

right

so this guy was told to put on a show

for to exhibit

you know cool aspects of like chinese culture or he was asked

to do that right

yeah i encourage you to look this up

what what is the censorship

that's not

what censorship is

that's just the punishment ok sure

so let's see here

h

blah blah

let me see here what were the consequences

where is that in

i told you he got punished

yeah he got punished so is that not by

what what is censorship

ah

do you really think that this is censorship

n know i have a quitte i want you to explain to me what is censorship to you

okay this is what happened dude

this is what happened

okay

he was asked

from from from my understanding this

he was asked to put on a show

the exhibit cool stuff

you know about chinese media and chinese culture around the world

he refused

the people found out about this they got pissed

they said deathreatstd of i'm not condoning that i'm just saying that's what happened

and then later on

he was fined

by the authority that does this art of wor or whatever just

the authority thats governments and government authority yes

what's the government authority

the never creority words were

against

we can we can see right here the government authorities said that he had to apologize for seven consecutive days on social to pay sixty thousand for fighting championship

chinese court ordered him to pay chen of approximately sixty thousand in damages for winning in a fight that was state sanctioned

because he beat someone that was

a cast fighters that because they were trying to push forward

they were going to push forward hold on you just don't know what you're talking about w caused ot the so there was some d know where there was some kind of initiative from the unit from the from the chinese government to push forward traditional values

part of this was the like traditional like kung fu

the chinese fighting styles

right where they would channel all sorts of like

tihi or whatever

all right

he was told to fight them

and he was expected to lose against them

right

by the government ok

and then he would say that i'm not going to lose against these people because this isn't real

and then the government would tell him you have to do this

or we're going to

you know

have some kind of political blowback on you what do you does

that's cab

this is what happened to his job from what i'm understanding what

people who are aware of what chinese cault about chinese culture

it's like he was asked to do a fight

yu

uh and he was asked to be like okay we're going to do this fight

o we've picked you to lose just to exhibit how cool chinese culture it happens all the time with like

uh you know like boxing matches where they're trying to exhibit

like for example okay example ethiopia and ethiopia right

the there was a

they did the super crune thing where they

th the commandos or whatever fighting each other right

and one of the guys had to lose

to show how good the other guy was a martial arts

they did it it was a government photo

this guy was asked to do the same photo of

all millions of chinese people were watching they were ver if there so if there was a fight w ire talking you know i understand i understand i understand your point the were very invested in this guy and he res used to do the fight

he completely just went out

and just

make

completely we against

what he was told to do and all the other stuff about the fight

because he was asked to you know exhibit

some cool stuff about the uh cold and all that stuff

and he refused to do it

people got pissed he wasn't behtor os the fight

we mean you really told me he was told to lose the fight

he was told to lose the fight he wasn't paid to lose the fight he was put into an iu into it if i said

everybody's watching if i said paid i apologis but i don't think i said

but he was told to lose the fight

and then

he didn't do he purposely won

no like

he purposely want to gainst a guy that wasn't even going to do his fll on fight

he just did it like you like put on a cultural show and he beat the guy up

and then everybody got pissed at him being because it was a lother because it was a it was a fucking fighting tournament of course he beat the guy up that's what the was guys to do

ok i know but i'm just saying it's a little bit dishonorable when someone's like

yeat this guy's going to do some cultural moves aren't like

uh medo or whatever when it comes to mme

and then the guy and he just beat him up and like in the the should have had him in the fucking fight they should have ruined his life after all

and then the got of the right was not a lose for show spectators

think they saw it

they got pissed at m and then later on social credit what is it it's reflected by the opinion

of your peers everybody got pissed at them and their social credit lowered

and i think dupid first of that's not censorship and second of all i just this is so fucking boring dude like i don't know you can you can just like endless sit here and defend every single like bad thing that the chinese government is a you don't know what you're talking about n know that you are you don't know what you're talking about a this whole

why is that a crime in china to not be like totally in line with the's not

it was literally a crime

he wasn't allowed to immigrate he wasn't allowed he was told to

thank

the guy was told to like be like

ok we're going to do cultural show we're going to show china's beautiful and deep history of martial arts and whatnot andn the guys that we just need you to lose this match we're going to show

the superiority of martial arts versus all the otherst of baba b bas

and the guy went in on the ring fighting a guy who expected to win

to show the beauty of chinese culture and whatno

and the guy beat him up

and people we like do that super dishonorable he was trying to show some cultural moos

he disrespected chinese martial arts and everybody got pissed at him and his social credit lard

i don't see how he broke a law or whatever

doubt that's just large so so it so let's let's let's say this all right let's say that

there was a there was a boxing i rightotheticals because you're concrete one couldn't work ok

i'm trying to see if you're like logically consistent right

okay you're right

thank you

so

let's say that there's a fighting tournament right and they're like ah yeah boxing is like the

the best way that le's so american right i love america right and then some guy comes in with brazilian jujitsu right and if i i don't call you floyd mayweather right and he fucking wrexam

right

and then the american government thinking that the that the boxer floyd mayweather would fucking

kick ass because it you know it's just fucking

amazing

amazing

fucking boxing moves right they thought it was just like unbelievable that he could possibly always wright and then hold on hold on hold on please let me find this hypothetical he's talking about a private sports event they

do this thing in the bri brazilian jujitsu guy comes in and he fucking destroyys destroyays floyd mayweather right

because floyd mayweather isn't using his feet at all he's not doing any grappling he's just fucking punch and right he gets fucking wrecked and the government

imposes fines on him and forces him to apologize on ok on social media and then keeps on putting him in fights with other with other boxers saying this time you're going to lose and he doesn't lose

right

not saying that like that's the rules but like implying like if you don't if you don't lose here we're going to fuck you up even more

right

and he does like he's like i'm going to stick to my principles right and i'm not going to h

h i'm not going to allow the the government to

to lie like this because i think that it's a good thing for us to be able to fight

with brazilian jujitsu to righte

i think that's a fundamental right that i have to be able to fight with this

right and they keep on fucking ab all

fucking him up harder and harder sometimes gettings into prison for a couple of days right

you don't think that this is like an imposition on his rights

h one sec

uh you're asking if i'm logically consistent right

yeah basically essentially

so were these two examples were the exact were the exactly one to one

okay well it wasn't one

why

what do you mean why

first of all it's completely different they didn't do it because they thought

this new boxing form was like super good

they said we're going to put on the show we're going to exhibit no chinese cultureause it was a ho i't beus that and they ust asu know that he would lose of martial arts

dude let me talk you no no you don't know what you're talking about beus you had never heard about this guy until i brought him up

w there are chinese people right now talking to me like actually explaining the situation first of all

and second of all

h what's it yeah and second all i did read the article

what you saying

and a lot of the sources come from a hong kong newspaper but

oh well that's western propaganda then so

yeah it is

right

you don't think hong kong media has

an obligation to try to slnder a lot of chinese stuff

i

i just

am incredibly bored i'm going to i'll shoot dylan burns a message this is i'm

this is super boring

here

fat chambers ready you just join so i'm not even going to insult you because that would be that would be mean all right this is just

this is a illans coming on now

i i thought it so much more about what this conversation was going to be since

you were going so fucking hard like at the very beginning

right

and i'm so defeated noto doing burns infrared i thought this was going to be so much more of a conversation but you just fucking

bllan berds going on conversation sounss boring like like you all you're going to do is like oh well yeah actually china super cool right here actually like

there's no there's no like ideological talk or anything its just like china can't do anything wrong here actually they can't be colonial i don't actually let me talk about how afri actually has nothing wrong with it in china's relationship like there's there's nothing to critique here like

and it's just fucking boring dude

you thought you think about

i'm not like so like big like guy who's just uh

you know sure talks like one

you called me a coward before you came in

yourew we can talk about that you can talk about we can talk about you and what do you think about what is socialism to you this will be and this will be a more interesting conversation what is socialism to m my god

but woulding like to socialism to

well what do you what do you think about socialism in america like how do what is it what is socialism in america

wow i have a

i have a very not unique but i have a very different uh

yeah

under not understanding but i have a different world view on how america should operate

if

and first of all due

all this like if stuff it makes no sense

it like it's it's dumb to even talk about it but

if we are going to talk about it

you know from what i've talked with people personally what not

america has s i punking

america as it stands is not

a nation states it's simply an ideological basis

is

so if something would have happened where we would see

something like a poletaran revolution

the country itself the fabric of america would have to be

destroyed and what has to come out of it isn't like

a new america it's just the balkanization america if you don't want to be so if you don't want to

engage in this okay go ahead

whatever you want there

and just what i mean like that's that's just like

okay that's interesting like i don't necessarily disagree that

america will probably have to balkanize in order for there to be some kind of

real socialist

revolution

let me ask you something

let me ask you something

the u s s r

was more than the russian

d like

do we agree on that

i'm sorr i sayd it again

the u s c r was more than the russian

it was more than the russian nation what but i don't know what you mean by that

what he represented

would have represented with the u s e sals and it was more than just

the interest of the russian nation

the french nation

for example has presents an interest of the french people right

but is the u s star it is something unique

something we only seen in the twentieth and twenty first century

ideologically based nations

so if you want to try to establish

capitalism and agress to such a staatee where we have capitalism

we would need to balkanize russia

a husband

capitalism cannot exist in the uus is sorry would have to balkanize

into many different other countries

that's why we see

kazakhtend to jikistan ukraine do lose all independent countries outside of russia

because you don't think that communism can work on ur stalk communism or socialism can work at a larger scale

no that's not what i'm saying that's what i'm saying

that's a i'm saying ok

i'm saying

because america i give an example what the us is are of another ideologically based

country

it's

it's interests and it's uh

goals or not to

do what's best for the russian people as it was during the imperial period

its goals is to establish socialism of the world

it's establish what it stated blls

establish socialism around the world and just be a dictatorship

ilitterio

to an ideologically based country

right

americas the same thing it's there was no american nation there is no american nsation

the stalm was deafed

addition

or an american ethnic group

the country

as it was in his year eighty three what he fill in bg burns was an ideologically based country bll is thes of

wasn't based off uh

religion or you know other stuff

it was based off ideology so if we want to establish socialism in america it's impossible

why because america the united states

is an ideological based country

so it's balkanization is required just like

do i just i mean look i'm ging i disagree we can talk about this later you want to talk to dylan burns well let you guys know you want to me how's it goe

how's it going buddy so do he'd request sure and

and he is incredibly boring to me becauss what you saw you ever played soccer

have i ever played soccer i mean when i was like five

week

i'm a big soccer fan i'll just say that gom burns

i'm not a fan but i'm i'm i'm glad we can talk

but the this is

i just want to say this is a dos h id

we're going big we're africa on your phone we're africa on your computer we're here to give

the true all right all right all right i want to hear what you'll do with re way wait wait all right wait wait s so sonm let him say his thing to me i want to hear all right whatever saying i don't know

thogh like i was saying before i'm a pan african ws you i can i get ca i get your opinion on stalcker first

stalker or start the video game

because i don't know why sansol was playing stoccer you know i football

i know what like oh

i thought youre talking about football

no not soccers a like a

it's like a like fallout but in russia it's like

this really fun old whatever don't worry aout

rush he i want to go run that hounless i a drink i'll bear it back

so yeah i was just i was told i was wanted here and then i was sent a clip and you

he seemed to

they'd not like me

um and called me a few names and i was like ok damn

what's a brid catr names if i called your names i wll

and it's not it's not even because like you're here or whatever

not like he has a history of kind of being a little bit of a snake

so i'm not going to come to him

talking to a fellow men i'm talking to you as a fellow men

so i'm actually going to engage with

so if i didn't call you if i insulted you before

i apologize because now i'm here to actually engage in discourse

so

are you aware

of the general relationship between china and africa

and what are your thoughts on it

not really i don't really produce a lot of content on africa and the reason why

as i think there's enough like white western people like saying stuff about africa that they don't know much about

and i don't want to be one of those people so i just don't comment on the region because i don't know enough about the region i

want to comment more on the stuff that i try my best to study

people have asked me like a lot to cover like the ethiopia like the conflict in ethiopia right now but i don't know enough about it

and so the last thing i want to do

his comment on the conflict that i don't know about and then i spread thisinformation and so

the two continents i don't talk about is south america and africa because

i have done

not enough research like people ask me all the time what's my opinion on maduro and every time i'll say

i know nothing

and everything i'm about to say

is based upon the fact that i know nothing

and it's just general vibes

so please don't take anything i'm about to say to heart

so i haven't really made if you actually look at you tube and you do like a search for like africa not a single video comes up

and i've been asked by a lot of like african viewers of mine like

why don't you talk about africa there's always the reason i give so

not i don't really know enough to comment

i know

like i know a little bit about like articles i've read like a while ago

but not enough to like comment with any authority

okay

yeah i mean that's about the position youre talking

you were talking about going onp i can tell you streamings let me actually spread the message

i'm i'm an ethiopian

you know itchop youa w name

not musch to gan in so me let me tell you what's going on ethiopia there is a genocide

going gone against

the to gray people uh du to abhammads

terrible policies in relation to

destruction of the t p

i just want to say that like not even politically overtive

people go out

sarbject to great genocide they actually know it's up

because there are some stuff going on that is

that is pretty bad stuff

no so

i just want to get that off the uh

table

so i was just thinking like

when it comes to

finds interaction with countries

expression the third world

economically like what do you think about

comrade will you can ask rearly malgy are you we i'm not wing to right now i'm sorry butkn sit there in mald and chatoics

and so everythop trying to preticul be t got a sest in trade in economics right

and i want to like like start any conversation with that

i'm i'm

but i would say that like economically like

and they're trying to make large scale investments with like developing countries i use the term developing countries knowing the history of it but i can't think of a better term

ourt

because it's

language

west of course like

ble

ya anyway i i know whats

yeah so the thing is i would say that my my general policy has always been

not knowing enough is that i believe that the united states when it comes to like how china like us us with belton road

should not be working to undermine

a chinese like deals with the world

but make a

deals of its own

for example like i when people ask me what's my general policy on africa because people just want to simplify stuff like that

my thing is

instead of like us like baby concentrating like how do we undermine this or undermine that

let's make our own offers

let's make your own offers that we think maybe are better for these countries

therefore not only is that beneficial to the united states but hey we're making like

cool trade offers the cias down the road

it would also benefit these countries because they have more than one

a geopolitical superpower making offers to them

and i for example like i would always look towards things like the space race like the space race had a lot of bad things involved with it

but what it also did was heighten the speed

of of scientific development and research because we had two countries point

billions upon billions of dollars into that

and i think seen to geopolitical superpowers

doing something similar

in a continent like africa

or or so or anywhere really

would actually be good

and i make that

under the precondition though

that these are not like deals that are like

so we're going to use our

workers so the won't benefit local economies or you're going to have to do some union busting

or we're going to undermine you so we can continuely use your resources and you can't develop yourself

because i want there to be a difference between exploitation

and coordinated development like

like deals that benefit both parties

but like when it again when it comes to like china economically like

i actually have personally laid

i am not against the belt and road initiative from what i've read about it

i

i just believe that the best way to like counter stuff like that from like a geopolitical perspective even though why would you want to counter like economic development

would be we make our own proposals

look i'm not going to bring out a bunch of people to dogpile this poor kid he

i don't think he was okay ready for this conversation you know i you kind of disagree

some stuff but i just want to just some of the stuff you tchry saying

first of all i'm ca you know i

ch never

i don't mean this as if somebody who's done this for a year and a half

chat is full

always of some really stupid people and stupid people

always are the loudest

so

y small the smartest people on the hos always the workers i just want to say that

thats just how twitches

okay

okay

well

i think there should be no american attempt

tried to court african country

i think when we look at h

china

engaging

in trade with a lot of these african countries because people are trying to call me out saying oh i'm trying to generalize africa

there is a general policy china has

with african countries especially sub saharan in the sub saharan

area

china tries to do what is called why i don't know the technical name

but the

what they tried to do is

uh trained in ways where it's not near colonials it's not

benefiting people people a actually the chinese actually think fair prices

for these goods in the world market from africa

and we can actually see the development of

for africa in ways never seen before

ethiopian economy for example has been grown by double digits not because thes no financial bas what it is

somewhat attributed to its low development but also

the fact that economy grows b uh

double digits by almost an uh by more than a decade or just a decade

it shows that chinese investment is helping there is no new colonialism that

people claims going gone

so

you know when i hear you talk about china we have disagreements on china i'll just say there

when you do the

tried to you know search up and read about africa

just know that the intentions of the chinese people and thell the chinese people and the chinese states

because they are intrinsically tied gret i put doight it is done for the full benefit i af

so you know ok so i'm going to say something and when i say this i want you to know that i don't just apply this standard to china but i apply the standard talking the p p so who this is not like come from a place of like deep seated

like xenophobia like china is especially bad

but i believe that all states act within their self interest

i think that

anybodyf you like

believes that this state is the benevolent country

like there are some people who like things for thed in or this country or that country is the benevolent country that does not act within it self interest

and a few instances

that country don't act within their self interest

or soley because

um

doing so is not a zero suming game or be win with so much outrage

that it would be impossible to continue

a great example would be when if there's like a like cony twenty and twelve

there was no real reason for america like

even though i think the whole moviment was stupid and it was a bunch of white westerners not knowing

that this wasn't even the major issue this

person cony

wasn't even the major warlord anymore that he had declined in major power and it was much bigger issues to face

but it was something that people could grab ono the feel nice right

but

that was because america didn't have a chinese don't say it's not because it's in like any strategic say it's when there wasn't anything that benefited them

by like moving in and

doing something about it

and it was only because of massive outrage but generally generally speaking

countries act within their socel phone it's the self interest

and so when somebody tells me

that this country

even though

there's not really any other example of this helping happening in history

has decided

that they're going to go to africa

and i'm get i'm saying this with that much nonsl so madly a general form like a

framework no just i underk general history

is going there to help africa

and they're there because they want to help africans

and it's all this lovey kind of dovey

like image

and i find that extremely hard to believe or

because i believe is acting with our like self interest

well then why did you argue with me when i said the same thing

no

sonso

first of all

that's not what bet a male on sol i guess i'm i'm a big old beatter

oh the adults are talking i brought yout it as a favor to you because you were begging me and ask to fucking talk tos all right and now act so fucking so fucking calm

so fucking conciliatory oh my fucking god blowing us the fuck out this fucking big infrared man i'm so fucking proud of you my guy you know why i was plenty

you know wh because because you knew it was politically viable for you to get onto my television show

will be with smike that that like

you will never talk with somebody again

because i have no i love talking to people like you because it's so fk easy to blow you the fuck out muted muted muted do

like likeed wre help you iveryon's watching my stream whats like because i can't ar you because s yeahre ok to give me a moment

sans

yeah

i promise i got this oka i'm sorry it's just

ok

ok go ahead so you can continue but i one last thing

i am saying this and i kind of

a little bit wt to move on to maybe like any other things

you wanted to talk about the

after whatever you going to say and the main reason why is

le i brought you on my stream and then i asked you questions about syria and i asked you a question like

what do you think about the s the f s effect of this an operation inherent resolved

or assad's reaction in two thousand and four football protesting quomitley with the thirty five kurds that were killed there

and the top leing of the statue offess al allsa

and you'd probably be like and i'm just assuming

but you might be like well i don't know a lot about that

but then we got you back i wouldn't

whatre right i be a conversation there because like

for all i know i could be saying something that's completely wrong and all you you could be working off of completely like incorrect framework

and like i could be using you to propagandize about

like

syria or something

and so

i do i'm not saying this because i say i distrust you on an individual level but it's a role of mind not to stay on topics for too long they don't know w know enough about

because they don't want people

to like

like i because i can't respond or check you if i think you said something incorrect i know what you mean

yeah

i i know i know i know but

first of all i was not being as specific as you're talking about syria

i specifically uh what's it called h

tried to convey the general

oh

position of policy china has with africa

i wasn't talking about it

china's investments like the port of

you know like china's investments in like

copper mines and

uh lusaka and all that i'm not talking i'm just saying the general policy

and its effect

which i don't think is new colonialsm colonialism but

i'm not trying to act like china is this benevolent power i know

how china operates

uh when it comes to other countriy i know any country

it's of course it isn't its own interests in some

of course nations are inherently selfish

but when it comes with china

uh comes to china sorry

alright

they engage with african countries in a way that we don't see with the west it's not replicated all the west

if you actually see what china puts out themselves

and just how they i win win the real world concretely

it's not the same as

hence you know

buying uranium from echare

it's not the same thing

so

i'm not like worshipping i do disagree with china on a lot of stuff

night yeah on a lot of stuff

but when it comes to this stuff i'm not like worshipping china as some

messiah of the african people because as africans have to build up

for ourselves but

dia there's a lot of standard going on towards china

online when it comes to its interaction africans

and with the continent of africa afria

thank you

and because of this

i'm just trying to i went on the stream today just to debunk all of that

well like i did with sonsul but the

yeah that's just what i was going to say with me and you aboutt that

no

can i can i give you a personal criticism i have

that i think also would apply in africa

most likely

um

so

i have a problem with

and this is something that people acknowledge that

china generally does is the idea that

domestic affairs in china is is chinese affairs

that other nations

should not have involvement in chinese affairs right

and generally

china

tries to have

a or at least as a model right now

tries to have

the same like belief about other nations that

what is domestic affairs within your state is domestic affairs within your state

it's not our business you do what you do

we do what we do

now that isn't complete true

across the board because they believe some nations

a great example and i don't want to get into this debate like taiwan they believe that's their country

so they break from that model with them

or a great example would be

territorial disputes

that they have with

philippines or malaysia it's a little bit justified

i

personally i disagree but i don't want to get into that right now for the point i'm trying to make

im

als so a great example of this would be for me and this is where i think this model fails

is how it

sends weapons

to nations like manmar

and those weapons are then used in genocides

and it's the same criticism i have of america

when america sends weapons to saudi arabia

or the u a eth that are then used and say yemen

because seven hundred fifty thousand rohinga muslims were pushed out of myanmar

and the biggest weapons seller for the

government military myanmar

is the chinese comuny is the chinese government

and so

with that model what you can as you say the communist party

completely ignoring widespread human rights abuses

that are extremely gross

in order to

benefit from

weapons deals

and or decent ties with that government

which are beneficial to the chinese state

while it acts it self interest

and so that is something that i'm i'm pretty critical of because

they they actively sold weapons that were then used in i just the alternative doing

so on the question of manmar i'm aware of the

god

you said jenocid so i'm not to say it on twitch right

you can say genocide on twitch i believe it's not a banded work

yeah if you have a i'm if you have a question about a band weor just d m me

okay

uh i'm aware of the rohingya genocide but you know i'm not really too you know

uh

invested in myanmar as compared to what i've said before as is my

heirs of expertise

but the

but i would have to actually look more into that i don't want to like

talk about stuff i don't know about i mean i respect time for doing the same thing

about the continent of africa

so

i mean i feel like if you would like to we could

engage in something i know wh i did ma wan to thing about something holy shit he china oild weapons both his youoking tr fucking five thousand of meters like a negative into his body i can lit into this f little pussy bitch such a fucking bitch

so no one can hear sounds when he talks

okay so if you're talking about the ethiopian ertin work

and the fact that china did so weapons

uh

i'll just

engages in good faith and sayy did

acted intol thell dense enough to turn into a fucking black clon i colonialist i'm saying that's bad i'm saying that's bad and that's a thing that yh pro i one dolt knows just a foreign policy gyess

sansol keeps trying to talk over them be he's so mad

guys he's so mad that everyone's watching my stream because i told him don't watch fpucking san so he stream

he was expecting to get like one hundred views and shit he's not getting shit

that's why he's so mad right now

i think that bly what i mean

is what i'm saying is you might my issue with with the

model of foreign policy

that

china has outside of what it considers a is directr tgic interest

is that it was it ignores a lot of times the domstic politics of countries

for what it

for the benefits of its own state when it comes to say weapons steals

for example i give the me and more example

you can fact check be on that if you want

andm i cand send you sources on that if you're here to

but it's not like a widely disputed claim that they did that

or ethiopian ergara when it sold weapons

and so what happens is the same thing that i have criticisms of when america sells weapons to saudi arabia

is that these weapons get used in

horrendous fucking stup human rights abuses

and then

they continue to do that because it's beneficial to the chinese state

and so when someone tells me like i believe that china is acting in the

in the interest of these nations but then actively like

war profiteering

off of conflicts

of these nations you're say they're looking out for

it's hard for me to believe that there

acting not

and in certain instances like this

in the self interest of themselves

against the self interests of

of minority groups who

feel the full brunt of these conflicts like the rohingya

or or those killed

during conflicts between ethiopiaan eritrea

during e the cleansing and genocide etca

yeah yeah well the genocide going up it' it's it's in the same area but it's a little bit different

but i

first of all the war you

you know the word that you said was war

but it was

it was only in one nine hundred ninety eight to two thousand the there is a very unique

to switch in foreign policy when it comes to china

ah towards africa

which we seen in the two thousand

i'm not saying i don't know if china does so

of weapons to africa and especially ethiopian air trade now because they are assuming

uh ethnic cleansing in the teguar region uh in ethiopia i don't know if china is doing that or not

i

but i'm saying as pertaining to the very unique

oh

chinese policy

sorry the unique policy china has

today with africa it is beneficial

and

i'm completely open to discussing about that

but i think

it's it's not going to help the both of us if we just

look at conflicts

years ago

you know ok can i use a more recent one dylan's a fucking idiot

one this currly going on

the u a e has used chinese made drones in the in the war in yemen to kill like the hoo the rebels

it's china's fault i'm taught

ya

like

i'm not ah okay okay you're right

i'm not talking about

china in yemen or whatever whatever i personally i don't like weapon cells i condemn weapon cells of any country unless in very specific

right

ok

but i'm just talking about africa i'm not seeing the same thing replicated with this shift in foreign policy

that china has

and that's what i'm more worried about is i thin that yes

what's going on in yemen is the hoorable the hussi

and uh

the you know i said the actually arele s your words and he was a greeing with everyoned it is devastd so

and there should be an arms and barn i can't get on because i'm brand on ho man

but the reason i can't get on is some band on switch for now

ah is a huge human rights abuse

and absolutely disgusting

and we need to leave need to pull support for that blockade just to be consistent

that i'm not saying this under the idea that america hasn't also

just approved like a few months ago

twenty three was a twenty three million fucking gam in like arms sales cy as well so i'm not saying this in of the context that america's as big benevolent like hero in the region

of course of course

o go mad sonser is debating anything and i'm not saying that in the sense of like

if you want to i want to get out of here or whatever i mean i'm on your clock

but i'm saying it's good to have these sorts of discussions you know because

yeah you know like

people say what they want about jankees like

me personally i'm not like some insane genocidal maniac or whatever

i just care about africa i think

marx and leninism is the proper way to

fix the problems africa has today and china

as a pan african china has been meg to helping pan african pursuits

oh within africa historically and today

thank you for the example and i a lot of support

from china towards

ya

there

how do i say this the

the moves to confederate the east african community

within east africa

there are lots of moves to confederate that

and we know that because we try to put off such a fuckin of big haws energy at the very y

set the fuck up sansy let the adults talk

go beach

the west and how they get impacted by african superstate

i i think it was because i super violent

objectively it is bad

so that is why there's actually more emphasis on breaking up the african states

and you can say it's the soupmation and

place like south sudan yes they deserve pendance

but

things like

when

america funds diurgencies across

africa in a way to

destabilize these countries because we all know that africa united does work

it can work and it is the future

and thank you madeline i'm more worried about

when american the west duch triy to postpone

madeline thank you so much for the five appreciate it so much

people

you know so that i think that's just the

now that's my uh

that's my two cents on all that stuff

yeah

there's no there's no marxis leninist dictator gone the sabany is

he's just like

he's on not ideological he's

the homd

i

that he met

sorry

uganda i

i don't so i don't know i saw it but i

i jumped by thes a chack chat what about

im thank you madeline

my my thing is i don't

like

foreign policy where one country

has all the leverage

that that is a

thing that scares me

a lot

i've seen essays on unique polarity on how like

well in these instances they can like decrease conflicts

but what that also does it means those without that power

can be exploited

easier

that's one of the biggest criticisms of american uniqe polarity

is the idea that

america can basically

just look at the world say screw you do what we want

because he's going to stop

right

i

i agree and you so when when we make the money

sorry what thank you so much to me for the three do thoseings because of american people there's so much america does have a motivation to

destabilize

of rising countries like in south america like in the continent of africa there are many countries

who if they rise and even unite

it will become regional superpower

and american unipolarity is the biggest threat to that

and

you know lots of african projects

are threats to american people there so

me as someone who is vehemently against americanclearity have no i' have nothing but

supports

one

i have lots of support for th for the forces that tried to threaten american plarity

and

when these peop when these very benefit

this plane when these very beneficial economic els

in africa when they do happen and when they do take their effects

africa will be in a position which they would be able to lok certaur youn stage

because i want to fight in the backing and being a the are i'm waiting t my worology all you folking we later on i jump into the coffers like super concerned about their

the french influence within west and central africa

i'm saying that when china does do these deals which are

highly different than what america does than what the west does with africa when china does do these deals

that actually benefit the people in ways

where western influence and western

uh conqot lines as

place themselves when china replaces that

it does benefit the people

and i had no choice but to stand with the people

when china doesn't support

the problem is

that

the same criticism i would have over american uni polarity

is the same criticism on all ultimately would have about any one

nation

having complete domination over

a conina does africa when it comes to large scales it doesn't have dominomic sy the stuff like that

that i believe states act within their old self interest

and i think that

while there are some people who are delusional and say otherwise i think they're just that delusional

and that

ok allow one geiopolitical power

to be the one to make all the large scale trade deals

for all these negotiations

mean that ultimately

that

that will

fade into them being able to have much more leverage in negotiations

but that isn my need to exploitation quite easily

and i promise that chinas a big right to do that

and therefore having china be the only power

in africa offering this major geopolitical power

is i don't see how that would be beneficial

towards having another nation make those offers and if you listen y original thining originally it i said specifically

not things like undermining

nations to

to exploit the resources develop develop developmental

deals

that benefit both

the nation like the united states and those powers those are the types of deals i would like to see made

and so when you say like america should have no

like involvement whatsoever in africa or make no deals

then should like china be able to run roughshod on being the only one accessing chinae african markets

ok that's actually incredibly good question

uh because

when these development deals happen because these deals are developing africa objectively

the amounts of

infrastructure has being built for example just recently in ethiopia

the first light real system in sub saharan africa was built

due to lots of chinese investment

this is benefiting the people within that within that area and it just

helps develop the country the economy

all these sorts of stuff

that puts yahs in positions where they can be exploited

if this countri'es economies are developed to a levels high enough

it wi'll be able to be explored

this feels like the same thank you just

that the problem is feels like the same justification i hear from people

who justify like

sweatshops

or stuff like that

is then what they'll say to me isll right now there could be certain things that are exploitative or the amount of leverage is

overwhelming on one side are you talking eventually due to the development that comes from it and

ultimately it is impossible to deny that

the development of these factories or multinational corporations coming to these countries do develop them

i believe if there were much more offers on the table much more nations be able to engage in trade deals

that these

these deals would have to become less exploitative in nature

and become more fair to the nations involved

due to multiple actors competing

for those markets

he's okay uh first of all

i

think this your somebing ups and if we actually want to talk about the history of industrialization

with any industrialized country the

it's it i'm just saying it's an unfortunate reality of industrial madernity the exploitation of works's a reason why socialisnm even developed

but

i do agree

uh

we can change that reality when we have countries that are developing today

i feel like if we do like

how do i see this

a sweatshop owner

has extreme exploitative power over a

immigrant worker right

but

it's not the same thing with china and africa it's it's not at all

it's

completely different and we actually know that because

china and african countries themselves applaud

the the developmental

uh contracts development tool

actions done by china within africa

something that for sixty years was deprived from

western powers

at the end of the day

africa does not trust the wester anymore

china is offering africa a good deal

that is actually benefiting the people

and africa is taking

i like

i know you're a cool guy doing but your chat

is just thinking like these people can just ump s reat but it like re chat i don't i'm just saying somebody somebody chat just said dylan considering that you attempted suicide should you be able to stream period

liker

like so like

i have no choice but to ignore because if i don't i'll just get angry right

so

eight

i know what you mean

there are people so infreds chat in my chatroom not right the second necessarily but earlier who were calling me like a bit chj ask cuk soy boy all right you just like

you're an internet personality nowy you've got to be able to get roug

li

ok so

what i hear from your argument this is what i feel like i'm here

ok

i feel like

you're saying that china has a monopoly within african development

when it comes to trade deals and what

and

well that we should actually destabilize the monopoly

and introduce more foreign powers

into investment within africa

and i think that's

that reality just it clear it just doesn't work

because

any other country in the west

that has invested in africa

ha done nothing but destabilize those countries through theportable conditions they are in today

the situation that we see in the congo

was started because of the america belgian alliance to destabilize the country

and get the very lucrative

you know the

extreme mineral wealth that the congo has

right

so these people at the end of the day

they're smart enough to gain power and they rekk they recognize

the fact that

excuse me

they recognize the fact that historically these people are not going to help us china still engages in neo colonialism today

africa simply just does not want help from

the west and even then china doesn't have like this big monopoly that people

or dog whistling about within african development doesn't exist

china is it he w sayings china

oh sorry i thought i was muted i don't is that is it true that like africa

i mean

is it really you keep saying that like t'm not to interrupt them but he to say that footll machin is doing theo

colonialism

i'm to shut up right son again i'm not an expert on that ok

what like

foreign direct investment in africa

it was at forty three point nine hundred billion dollars in twenty nine clinton ship and boys so

while it's definitely receiving a lower

foreign direct investment and then other regions

that seems like there are nations accepting foreign right interest there con there are nations ok i would rather like to and unless it's as you hig i know you're talking watching right nowby one jopen scen how over on

shet the fuck up bitch let them let the adults talk

fucking pussy

i already fucked you like three times

when i get back i'm going to give you another fucking spanking little pussy

like they've had someth amazing

economic or mercenary you mo and chat right now true

okay

what i'm saying is that

there are first of all there are

sorry i'm generalized going to say africa i'm very passionate about this

so but it ya it is my fault it

i am generalizing

uh about africa

there are

many african countries

ranight

who do accept itro in the west and they are seen as puppets by their own people

o i think a perfect example is the successor to thomas and car's government

blase i can't pronounce his name properly but he was a successor because he was hard g i was in a frenchp

yes and cour was assassin in this and this guy came into power

right

and this guy was highly unpopular to people he was highly repressive and then the gouy and the people kicked him out on twenty fourteen iem

when i say africa i mean the general sentiment of the african people we have what's it called

statistics where it shows

the most uh african mold

you know within the people studied

that africa isn't an alis more than sixty percent of africans actually preferred china or just like

and h

are investing in these countries

it's a reality that you can't deny in africa that

the people themselves

or what's it called

oh

very distrustful of

the western

historic involvement

people are asking for stets let me give you stets

uh

so again like i the thing is i remember i opened up in this discussion like i don't know enough about this to really comment i've been told things but i'm not an expert so i don't

but

i i mean what you're proposing me

is basically fights against basically everything i've ever learned about i r

that there should be one geopolitical power making it alls on the continent

and that's one geopolitical thing is is acting within the interests of those people

because

s of the shokup i i have never seen

like this feels almost as like

like utopian utopian as like what i'll hear from the most eral internationalist of liberal internationalists that i wish i would when

and the w h o organization shall lead us to like world peace

and trade

is the ultimate

he springer it sounds

that utopian to me

what is he talking about

know oh i mean not rec you never in argument i've never i know what you're saying like the history

of these powers

but again what i'm advocating for isn't

that and there seems to be nations that are accepting foreign direct investment

but it

also we should be recognized that

foreign direct investment into africa

is not a foreign policy priority for the united states right now

if you ask the if you ask the yeah if you look at trump

that wasn a priority for him

if you look at

obama it kind of was

but not really and a lot of that aid was conditional

on things like on

specifically like i remember that there was a sscussion once i think about like

ad be conditional based on the human rights

which is not something i'm fundamentally opposed to

but i do know that sometimes that's used as like as a cover for

just support a policy

then there's also the i ministration who seems to be making a pivot to asia so it's not a priority for them

and

but even with a not being a priority there're still about fifty billion dollars of foreign direct investment

that is different of course from american u s aid which is that a separate amount of money

that is also in the region

and so there seems to be powers who want to accept u s dollars

and me proposing that hey

the best way for america to be involved in the region

isn't you

just go out there and try to undermine the chinese investment

instead it should be

start our own investments

which would benefit all the act america doesn't even do that domestical why would they do it in africa look at

i'm specifically advocating

for the america doesn't even invest in its own country thhout what incentive they have in africa

and an office of these countries

and you say that there's a history there i acknowledge that that and i'm act and im i'm specifically requesting

we don't

engage in that we don't engage in those types of actions

mmhmm

okay

i'm not trying to be a utopian or whatever and that

and i really want to cleanse my name from that sort of characterization

i'm telling you the reality

a monk

many many african people w whose countries have been destroyed and devastated from

kong call western investment that cares about the people

people don't want to wes there's a reason why sun car got into power

right

people are super distrustful

people have

so first a in general chinas just giving a better deal

for example right

es so what i'm saying is we give a better ials that's what i'm advocating for

to be honest

if i ever said like america shouldn't give a big better deal or whatver i'm just saying that people themselves the boots on the ground reality among many many people

is that they're very distrustful of the west because they look at any other country

around them that has colluded with the west and many in the the vast majority they're going to see the having

you know helped

you know conco helped africa the vast american

experience i tred to do it i'm looking beria

and look at any country that has accepted american aid or whatever

the

i don't know if you know who this guy is but just as a so call is

one of the most infamous leaders in african history the guy was an oligarch the guy stole money stole billions and billions of dollars from his own people

his dictatorship was maintained and promoted by

the american government

yeah i know but even today

that w that d that on that oy hard qustion

in the rob doesn't work with me is because the chinal government

f

weapons

to one of the most

closed off dictatorships in africa which is the eritrean government they are

notorious

ok for our freedom of speech violations

ford hold on you're talk crimin with them hold on he doesn't believe of the relationship between the chinese government

and the late robert mugabe

which eventually they did whatt of

he wasn't like a chill dude

i'm not like we can talk about goabi

but even if you do disagree with gob

i'm seeing like the effects of it

maybe we will i do disagree with god because he did participate in the genocide as far as i'm aware

yeah

so that a you tell you know that's that's something i would disagree with i disagree with genocide personally

yeah i mean i'm not a fan of genocide either

so when i'm t you of the china then mother fucker scars you know that scares me as well you know

hope is being jused ip thk right so like you're not

scaring me

about the like i'm equally scared of genocide

uh

what was going to say

the

first of all we're not we don't know the effects of m goadi's rule

sort of goby's

a friendly relationship with china

and its effect on the people until a couple years from now

because the guy just got out in the twenty sixteen or twenty seven

we don't know the actual people's a

uh what's it called we impact and affects and how people

you have ar do though

because we have how would you say that

i would say that because i'm pretty sure and again i'm i'm trying to this conversation with you but you're knowledging i'm working off of articles i've read

years ago but i tried to like try to get my yeah you know i understand but like

i'm pretty sure there was like reports of like

like unions particularly and

in the country being very unhappy

with a lot of the developmental projects that were going on

and the lack of in zimbabwe

yes specifically like yes and zibabas a chinese and then in the reason why we know about this

is that one of the things that abe did not crack down upon when it came to speech against his government

was the unions because

historically

the unions of mugabe

were politically aligned

but then they started to try to say they started

somewhat to separate

on the issue of chinese investment

and again work in trying to work ot information for a while ago

there's that issue

and then the issue of course

of

like i believe there was the mansion in hong kong that robin mugab i had in the shopping sprees with his wives in hong kong

i it was a was yeah but the thing is

that's

i'm just saying there's some stuff i respect abu god but oh you know i'm sure the really is not obway how n t

yeah but i've this stuff i respect about a lot of leaders that are

politically for example l b j is somebody who i am trying to do a huge

research right now on i have like

actually the quick

b j no one cares andjh

he is o yeah that yeah he was very famous

let me just show all these books on stream to see how much like research i'm trying to do on this man i mad look at all the hear me but it's like three thousand pages of information on i'll b j i'm trying to like

sip through right here right

and the thing is

i i respect you l b j do your child is surprised that ethopian does not know who l b j is when there's so many other world leaders who have their names andmission

yeah are you just like you discussed and where there chi he still i have no respect

god tell you

the only single

again

got ignore chatman as a stramer as the dude

you just gota ignore

so

the thing is

i acknowledge that he did some good things right

but the gulf of tonkin incident

is the biggest stain on his career and will always be a huge ain on his career

right

and the thing is

rober hu gabi did a genocide robert hugabe was not a big fan of certain freedoms rober hu gabe

was known for being a very big on

well let's just say he enjoyed his luxuries right

robin mugabe a lot of the

when it comes to like how

he operated

was facilitated

as far as i know again working off with some old information

by the not only when it comes to luxuries in the mansion in hong kong

but when it came to

direct complaints from unions

who cares communist party

now

i'm pretty sure that

china was also so somewhat involved

and like

the confirmation of like this new government that eventually oustedt him

i i'm working off information for like four years

when did this happen when then don't you know i know i the new guy you yeah and

i it's hard for me to be like someone to tell me like

well america supported all these terrible dictators

and then i look at the weapon sales in eritrea look at the weapon sales and

the chinese jrones and

and yemen i look at

broba mugabe i look at the weapon sales to more

we're talking about the african reality

that's can we focus on that

because we

wen ok i'm not like

worshipping chinese foreign policy i don't

i condemn anything related to helping people like

he saw yes of worky in aerita

but i'm just saying

when we when we look at countries

uh that are affected by chinese investment developmental investment

not like weapon sales or war profiteering but developmental

ass uh assistance

which africa desperately needs after being deprived by its

and worsened by western alternatives for decades

when china does engage in these development for efforts within africa it does benefit that

benefit people in africa subth in africa

place like ethiopia place like gone up short does short as makals thatn't benefit them

and my my response and i'm saying that in the most good way faith possible and i'm sure

and like with all deals that there's

probably problems with them as well

because again

these deals are made to benefit the chinese states

that is the purpose of these deals

of these deals are made

i'm working under a little bit of a realist framework here it's not a it's not a zero su su game

i just love africans a are doing this because they want to benefit themselves

and so when when you find shain there is a unique

yes okay

thk

it just

oh ok like i'm not like i'm not ject like you not even yous like i'm like you i'm not meaning like i'm not going to te that like

i'm not i do' know you wors i know as i get i

i'm trying to let me talk postible and like ignore the like let me reiterate my point and we reiterate my point ok there's a unique

there's unique shift

in china

and

its relationship with subjan african subseent africans african in general

in which it commits more to development on both sides

instead of just the blinds

capualist form of wealth extraction that we see

in almost any other country

any other large country that invest c of b p i'm saying there is a very specific

distinction

between how china

builds railroads in africa

versus how

frens

from france build railroads in africa too

there was a very

big distinction it's not

do and of course it is benefit in the chinese state and it's not charity africans don't need charity

but there is a

pacific

the aspect of chinese investment that is

helping millions and millions of people in africa

that is

called no colonialism

cold colo i'm not saying you're calling it

but my only point in general

before talking with sonsl was that this

shift in chinese foreign policy with acricas called neo colonialism

and for all the wrong reasons

and it's just it's just b s that's that's all i'm saying

now we can talk about how

would you be call calling it yler co

i'm sorry what buked up onc ust calling it regular colonialism

no dude because colonialism is something radically different

okay

think i i recommend you all read this book called you know colonialism last ag and fearism by wami cuma

a fantastic pan african

who actually point the term

a neo colonialism but

uh that's that's all i want to say in we end i'm glad you had this discussion

about the

you know china's blunders in africa and i'll agree funding people like mugabe funding people like aforki in ert

these are blunder and

uh the shouldn't be replicated but

i'm saying in general the shift in in chinese foreign policy with africa it is a beneficial thing

for

i'm not saying it's just beneficial for africa

beneficial for everybody on the table

everybody who signs the paper for a trade deal

like in these scenarios it's beneficial it's not u

wealth extracs extraction

like france is doing for example

uh the the electrical brid

in france

it's uh it's very dependent on nuclear energy

most of the uranium that france that's are just whatever they use it prech uranium

that they get is from the country of niger

being you knowly shared to be one of the porest countries on earth

there is a

there is a distinct aspect of neo colonialism

uh in the inkumaust definition

that is happening with between china is aor between france and n share that is not happening between china and other african countries

and mass

that was my only point

so really quick i ask you a question

ya go ahead

so

fundamentally what is the difference between me

can you explain to me what the difference between me and dylan's positions are

reiterate all this new gon was because of alling what's in there

i your thingk dylon burns i respect dying burns because he was saying he doesn't know about the

situation he didn'tven bring a nw new colonial ho was with actually said you coloniy

i respect him

having discussion with me about china and africa that it that isn't within the bounds of

really quick really quick so you know this

he but you're like you're going you're like going around the question because

ultimately

what he said this entire time well you guys went to more depth on stuff because i don't know about the intricacies of different and such a big jest as answer your question

right

but i

u huh

fundamentally my point is the exact same as his

right

and you you sat there and you argued with me super hard and you sat here and you agreed with him super hard

so

you didn't agree to me why that is

because you did a complete literal one eighty

from our discussiony dylan's ok

you're right

so ok let me talk to you about that

when it comes to dylon burns i'll say you dot burns he has something to argue he actually has

i saw his books on ndon b johnson

he actually does his research on stuff and i respect that

in general you sound so on the other hand

have no knowledge on

corpl new colonialism africa

but you said maybe it's happening maybe it isn't or you know you din to maybe just just said maybe it's happening i sad when i ask me show me your suspicions ok could be maybe it's really the same thing

sohen you say oh it be have and you said maybe by the you actually said maybe if you look at the bogy sad maybe

ok if you look at coul be maybe happening to ask you to show me your suspicions about

such a thing

i said i didn't know enough about the topic in order to talk about it so i

we'll talk we'll talk about it

it like if you we can talk about here we can talk about anywhere

that i su i guess that because mos when it comes to well i said the exact same things to you and d m s and in person

right you were just way res aing because just trying to perpetuate a narrative about china even though you say you know nothing about the background

i what

ah let me see you you like no ma allright so scot sonsul within the scope of africa my main area of expertise what would you like to discuss on

and i said dog i'm going to be honest with africa i probably won't argue super hard against anything you say i don't know anything in depth in africa

yeah and then later on do messages later i said you if you want we can just start a call and see where we find the contention but in terms of geopolitics i feel uncomfortable talking about things i don't know much about

so ok seated before it even you said you're cool with whatever to

why are you going to hoind that

alright sounds so good

like i'm wasting bllan's time to

but like

you were being facetious it sounds like clear bound it sounds like clear bound to me my guy i just think it's funny anyways

well if you're s slowings downround there's other people that were the hotile s

i more respect for dlan than you souns so i'll say right there

but what what are the oh i have no doubt about that but like no love lost anyon anyone that is as stupid as you i don't really ha them

really quick

since you guys have come to like a natural inclusion you guys are both welcome to stick around but there's like eight more tankees that want to jump into this call so more warriors i don't know if you're wanting to get get into that kind of conversation right i g it's up to you i there's no ca you know i just talked about an issue for an hour

yeah

i said at the bat that i don't even know a lot about so if they're going to come ino debate me on africa or something the no if they want to like

like tell me why i'm wrong about meman mo or something

then like

i guess that's different i mean

short i'll stick go ond for one and if it's interesting i'll stay if it's not a fucking gam

yeah i definitely know what you i respect that

uh i'll be done or

all right so this guy well i mean i felt like you guys had a natural conclusion to you alls conversation unless you guys want to go into one more topic or something i don't know

um oh know because i mean like i could

i mean yeah wells getting on right i think i'm good

i don't think i needed like

i guess i think've talked about enough

well not getting on of taiwan or anything else yeah we know come to our conclusion

i respect that

i waspect that

all right by the way ask you questions yes

one question on me

yeah

so you you say you care about africa right

and so when was the lion king release

yah

ah

okay but yeah in't know dude i don't know

yeah i see it bro

thatect

right

no

i'll catch you later

i

wait let's see here let's go to ninety fur by the way

where the wasre affected

he go he was in the voice call second ago

and know

nw

but the fuck is his name

cash

the the mental institute a yeah yea yeah

oh you know the a ti to b r b all right cool cashes in our discord is anykt

that quite a while a goo

the gon well if

there's nobody else then sounds of i'm going to head out if nobody else is

so caetulaor

we got se letter

i'd see dim

the

all right

comrade wo you can you can sit there and mald and chat all day

now

of comrade w wanted she wants

she won't come on i told her if she wants she can

she doesn't want to

okay

right samantha we have you have three minutes all right

i'm i have my sler arranger on the mute button

this is sonsuls racist friend

he is in samanthic the guidelines

i'm sorry i like how you say isn't command samantha the guy really you transfer big fucking shit stain on american democracy

you fucking horrid fucking cuk god i

what's with this transfo but tommy bullshit why are tommy so transphobic

okay

the was a question why are comies so transfoming

legitimate question just easy

i want to transform you're talking to a guy who's english is a second language and i accidly called you gy same same same the last time i talked to one of you e s l people just like myself they couldn't even get their point across they stnuttered and i fucking moocked them for it because you're a racist you're known for being a racist for the rest of your lifealk she's the one who called asi but the more transforing ok well can i just point out i called once

there you do with number three with the dude

ok is like isn't

dude like doesn't it have no gender like i

what are you talking about doesn't it now you're making assumptions well

oh that's pretty fucking anglo

okay

wow good so ok

oh my god quit with the fucking dude

ok so here's the thing i just want to point out something that i noticed like when dylan when dylan came in the chat right you locked up and got so respectful

and you fucking got so cover so coucked you got so coucked

you fuckin turn into the biggest fuckin little scent bitch like it was fucking hollly ow how did i do that how did i do that samanta's a psychotics sgars he fucking for a psychotic you know doing whatever you wanted to do to didlon burns that you shit on your own point and admitted that china literally engages in nato colonialism

like and it was fucking like

shut the fuck up come s join therine to

i' that i don't tm ras all the chin you knowin of i wasn't being grace as i was being able tot i onse person

you disgusting westerner you call it was a pot westerner you discust discust i don't have any compelled arguments disgusting enlo westerner who discust

ok ok how wait how do i knowd china was engaged in your colonialsm

oh tell me

let's hear he literally said that they were spending operations of acunning it right nyeh

you did save her b at one point we always said was chin no n no no shut the fuck up you don't get to interrupt w it's fuck and show you a little fucking cuck

yes he does it's my show bitch it's my so you' just going to say really quick but it's whatever i really now working

it's no really quick i was just going to point out at some point in that conversation you did say that china is engaging in neo colonialism

and thely whre i said that actually i don't know someone i do lk it for me because i said i didn't know if i th you never sk you never is it taching in yourlor lye say we have reident in africa war

do what are you talking about like this is what you guys have to do i not guys you what by what you mean by you guys ha

which wase be we you people you mindset you p china not you people you racist

you're race i'm racis i'm racist i'm

that makes no fucking sense but ok

why would you ca all the chinese ser china bo samantha

because he was a boy from china and i didn't have his fucking name

you know what do you talk you know what it's common knowledge that that's pretty bas

you're's common knowledge what

ho ok please point to me how i'm racist

ok he was all the chin he was a boy from china st making fun of him that he was studing in a language that isn yes it was yes i'm going to mones forres awarness about something

um well i just want to spread awarenesus about something

sansldiert violated the twitch t o s he posts he showed my d m s on stream currently banned on twitch

h and he just violated the twitch t o s i'm just putting that out there i'm not advocating anyone to report him anything like that

but it is a

it is

o

infred isn't rising infrared is bann

and and it's funny as

box

co parter

right

catulator samantha

bye bye races

all right

where's the other guy anything else on swing

i

well the the other guy i just figured you guys would want to like all

to go after me at once

since you would since you didn't do too well you yourself raised on your own sinince you didn't do so well yourself i figured you might wy back up with someone so

how did i not do well dude

you realize that when i talk about chinese neo colonialism

uh what's it dylon no i figure i figure that it was just you misspeaking doesn't know

the situation

no i figure that you just i don't like this yse saying i know i literally just think that you misspoke i just thought it was funny

i don't think i did it in general i would want to see clip

and if i did say it there's a like

be i know i know there's an accident i don't like i din't care about it's not a big deal it's not you misspoke it's not a big deal i just thought it was funny i'm sorry i sorry i pointed out the joke all right

i joked

it was a little bit of a joke

everything about this conversation's been a little bit of a

is sultan available now because that be legendary he is t exclamation point discord and i'll show up in the chat

if if sultan goes on now that's fucking legendary dude that would be legendary

almost triple

i mean this is the normal viewcoint i get when i debate people so

unfortunately this is a little bit lower my normal

yeah when i'm playing video games yeah when i'm playing video games i get like between twenty and thirty people sometimes and then like when i'm debating i was between sixty and seventy

actually

okay okay

sonsl

the inspect me and you

like like would you actually want to restart not the whole debate

would you actually want to you start our sentiments of each other like are we just

sure but you want i mean sure if you want to that's fine

i really don't care like i listen i don't care if like you're rude to me i just don't i don't like it when someone

will say one thing to me and another to another person that's the only thing that gets to me all right

but if you know if you want to be sholl i sholl

i'm playing a video game ference the funder

ok thatt's actually thatlet's actu review the del burns conversation

the fundamental difference

between what you and dylan burds were saying

was that when i came to dilon burns

i came to him

and i asked like all new colonialism what china is doing you think is new colonialism africa b right

he said

i don't know much about africa i don't really talk about i you realize me pointing out that was the second message i sent you but i'm not even going to i'm not going to comment on your colonialsm africa

i know i then we talked about chinese investment in africa and we had a good

fruitful conversation fm that we had a good conversation for that

right

what you did

when i ask

the day on stream

mmhmm

you were like

do you know chinesho is do what they normally what theig countries normally know first of all there's a fundamental difference that's literally what you do on sat america

as a fundamental do what that's not what he said

is o not say that a country will never do something well really quick really quick did he i'm not talking about that i'm saying

neo colonials you didn't even let me finish n know but notre you're misrepresenting what had you price id launtries really quick really quick and i you talking to go so

dilan said that

countries will do things that are self interested and the only reason they'll dose things are not self interested is when they have their hand is forced right

even if it looks like they're doing a n thing and that and that's the exact same thing i was saying as a the contr this is what countries do

go for it then let me finish th

okay

i'm letting you know

when we look at china right

and then all i said

and sorry uh and then

i like

ssul i'm coming out your way bigger than your

one hundred times my size

i say sonso

uh let's talk about chin you know colonialism and you're like oh you know you're doing the whole self interest blah blah blah

but then what do you say next

you say

oh it might be happening or it is

oaight

first like those are the two options that i could possibly be

no dude

let me tell this cqlick first sid there that you don't know what you're talking about right

second red flag is what i said

oh

let's have a

let's have a conversation about that

or do you think you are you actually sys just that there' is new colonialism in china

and then what do you and then

and then i bring up p you know moe of examples of which you seen chinese neo colonialism

or just word you're suspicious

that china might be engaging your cols and then you just deflect the question no i tried to bring up examples that i knew about like the scarborough shoal in i said that go i specifically said right and i specifically said

that i don't know enough about africa and yes is a moden the engage in mod abuse regularingly violating to just theus

ok but what about the question of africa and then you said it yourself again

i don't know enough about africa to talk about it responsibly

you didn't say that because might it's literally hold on really quick it really quick but he said a contradiction i'm going to go on like

eh well i'm going to go when you want to go

no i'm go with you staying as long as you want

all right but really quick i am going to once again

read

the first message i sent to you in d m s

right

i probably won't argue super hard against anything you say i don't know in depth on anything in africa and then my second message to you was

aright

if you want we can just start a call and see where we find the contingent but in terms of geopolitics i feel uncomfortable talking about things i don't know much about

aright

okay

but then

do to

i understand you said that and that's actually where i a

good

you your comming t trying to call me a transfort like

think i'm not i don't stop reading chat i look

like this and like that my or your feelings and like maybe you urt samantha's feelings when you when you

start off with guy right whether it was intentional or unintentional right

but

like i'm telling you this is like my chad is always going to be always on my side and when you start it's his mods like engaging in abuse

you're right

oh well i don't have a chid here's what i know i mean if you start streaming or something yeah i know what you mean know

i knowlso

yeah okay whatever

but

you know but

you said the respect respectable think i start what you said

h

i don't know enough about the topic but then what you would say later is that

oh but it might be happening in might not

that's not the case

because when i ask you that's youre the only options

we no it's not it is either happening or not happening

what other option could it be that there is either alyalsm happening or not happening

it is either happening or not happening

that is either happening or not it is black and white like you say

so why are you saying in terms in terms of colonialism yes there is either neo colonialism and happening or not happening and i don't know enough about africa to make that statement that is the dichotomy between the world war happen

that's fine

i i'm going to go soon right but you e that you say n it's e that happening it's not happening it's fine

i we can continue one

i'm i'm with whatever youor you don't have to leave if you don't want to like it's totally cool

right

but we you can say

uh what's it called

it's either happening or it isn't but w

you can't just say oh it might be happening and then want to ask you ok just tell me some of your suspicions and you say oh i have no suspicions i don't know anything about the situation

i i don't knowbu but i don't know anything but

that

that is where you're wrong

like that's that's where

that's where i lose a lot of respect because you don't know what you're talking about that more

and i have to

kind of

you know just tell you that

and then you just aggravate do like i'm sorry

maybe we got off on the wrong for who knows

but

that that was the origin of the of the initial disagreement

about when where you're saying you can't

like uh

come up

with the response to when i when i asked you a question

was on

well when i ask you to come up with the answer to if there is or if it isn't happening

well thenbout an example from like an area of the world i know a little bit more about but we're going around circles now yes where we got you're right you're right so

i'm goning to get

ok butddings

if if you're someone that's hiding in or not was kind of cool yeah i mean yeah if you want to talk again sometime more than welcome to

to and let me be let me i'll be moreill let me yeah and i'll be more de i'll be more chill in the future let me let me be clear with you

the though the way that you were like coming in here with with like the calling me a coward and stuff i was thinking that you were going to immediately start like deep throating the mike like mr hawes does

right

so if youre so i was initially thinking that it was i was going to have to be like really really fucking hard on you but i feel like

maybe you're not that kind of erson next time we can have a chiller conversation or whatever

so

all right

yeah

if i was goilt do you recognize for you know what you mean contact

with samantha i apologize for calling you a

the the things i call you i apologise

the

i di i didn't know i didn't me know what thank you for putting me in contact with dylan burns and thank you for talking you put us

you put me

you put the movement on the

pederchal bowl i wt b

i prom se

alright

catch a bundy

all right who's

if you're someone in in the voice chat let me know

if that's you and the voice chat i'll pull you in

because i don't

know who is the people that want to talk to me

i want more u s s r ok sorry buddy

or bones can move you and fine that'll work to

i wonder how how bad mr mr hases is just maldight i'm red blues actually in the call

okay which one is that

o that' be benches glore

right

can you

drag around for me

have fun

ep

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hello

you are on stream

this is uh this is veggies

comrade like your pillar one avatar and the red comrades in china

you ar beauted

i do not think that she is at her microphone right now

oh no she she spoke out against the chinese government they got her sh they got her before she was able to onmut her mk guys oh fuck oh shit

i

here i feel

i don't know what i should do should i move heor out of the call or should i

i'll give her a couple minutes maybe she went to the bathroom or something she's gone

ok

well

that's haws a's a trap

myself my service said i don't have service settings for speaking

i don't have service settings for speaking

hello hello

can you hear me

i can a little bit too much and iad this veggies

alright that's fine

al righty how's it going

so i know you know i'm upset about

your accusations towards me and i want an apology

course you do

well

i knew

i do in fact your chad had even seen my twitter

i tagged you my twitter so you can see i use my real picture i always use my real picture

and you accuse me of using yellow face which is disgusting

o well i'm just going based off of the conversation i saw you on bad impanata have where but impta also pointed out it's kind of weird that i was using my actual picture i had a filter that was my real picture that was my actual face

and yeah

and

yeah because i mask it was y have the mass there's a little bit of ambiguity behind it yeah

and and everyone way the filter yeah i and the yeh there's lots of masks being war right but then also the filter made a little bit more ambiguous and the the name also makes a little bit more ambiguous there's all these ambiguities all together in

and then also this is all the legal dore right

and so like all these ambiguities together kind of lead to something when

some conclusion in a lot of people's minds at the end of the day when you

are sitting there on a call defending the weaker genocide

right that

you know

this person lives in chinas is wr thingk is just like that was a way to attack me

because you didn't like what i had to say

i had i had plenty of stuff to attack you on just based off of the words that you said in the call a right you made a claim that i was pretend to be chinese i never pretend i didn't make that i didn't make that claim bad ipanatomy thy i disagree claim your chat you i disagree with the claim all right

so you don't because you were saying it you know i just agree i just agree it with the chat with the

assertion all right i didn't i was not going you out of my way and apologize to me you can disagree and apologize to me what i mean why would i apologize i agree with the chat with that with thats a father usting accusation towards me

well i think it's kind of weird and disgusting to and bad i it was wrong because learning a language using it and understanding culture when you're in another language is what you should do

not just go to another country to buck in

take money

for your own gains and that's it

no you should learn the language

learn about the culture learn about the people interact with people

that's not more i mean you should do when you travel abroad

okay and then should you present yourself as if you're

like

i never reret not called tchinese

i never presented myself

as chinese i think that the explicit claim that people are making is that it's ambiguous enough to make people noth know wonder fe that well i mean i listen and i thought i thought my picture i haven't been on twitter because i've been engaging with the conversation at hand

right

i like to try and pay as much attention to people and i can and then you your chat tries to come after

me and harass me

hey if anyone we wored is this what your channel is about

well if you if you d m me someone's name thats harassing you i will one hundred percent ban them from o jt no has told you that day has had the screenshot and everything

of what

of people who want to go into my d n s and send me their tiny ppce

if someone sent you like any kind of sexual image with my chat it's the intent of wanting to do so and then you're like oh yah i'm going to wait till i'm confused i know i'm confused really quick i'm i'm

but this is like a serious accusation what i need to know is like did someone sincee like sexually explicit images because if so send me their username and they'll be banned the were threatening to do it

they were ok and sen you like tell me that you tell me tell me their name and i'll ban them forever i don't want that's what i in my community it was

i was one of your moderators that started it

ok well simm me they're using him i don't

know who it was has it you can you can welln has can send it to me he's been shooting me message this entire conversation so

she's talking about joe

joe isn't my moderator

one second le i want an apology

i want to apology on behalf of you and your chat

and by the way as you were talking about china

apparently suppressing the internet and freedom

your moderator

tied me out for like ten minutes just because i was trying to fend myself

you think

do you think that suppressing

um

suppressing speech at a at a

statewide level

of an entire country is

in any way a potable or like comparable in any way shape or form to the censorship of someone in a twitch chat whos being annoying

i wasn't be i wasn't being annoyed i didn't break t os i was trying to de fend myself

i prove myself

which i don't have to do but i really don't like the accusation well

j we also we alls body j joe lewis well he's not he's not part of my community he's just another streamer good like oh really get up with him he's i mean he's not

he's not my moderator and eever has been

but you were like oh yeah i'm going to block him and then right after there was we i banned him for the road for the i've been laughing about i banned him for the duration of that you conversation sexual harassment against women

is that is that what it is

h i do not support sexual harassment of anybody right

because you know if you want to if you want to talk to joe lewis about that he's a streamer too i'm sure he would love you because this happened in your in your twitt you're responsible

ok yeah and i said don't fuck and do anything and when they were doing that right

i don't know why you think

that they were talking about

like showing genitalia that's not what they were talking about what a he sd defaultre going to go on they were telling me to be mean to you

which i feel like i

yeah that was adequate at doing to even make those threats

ball's going on

well i think that you were saying some pretty morally reprehensible shit so i'll probably be mean to you right

that's your opinion that's your opinion i mean yeah it is my opinion i'undertanding by it's because

i'm here because i want to public apology

well you're probably not going to get w i want to especially the way that you're you're engaging with me right now is you're not in grat ny know that is how i talk

this is this is how i talk

mean this is exactly how i talk

so can i have an apology

um no

you're not entitled i'm not and like

obligated to apologize to you any more than you're obligated to believe in the weaker genocide

just one probably a little bit more reprehensible one's a little bit more morally reprehensible

multiple times because i had a debate with you i don't think it's slinders is an opinion you don't think that that

no it's not an opinion you literally was saying i was doing yellow fce know i in my opinion like that that's tantamount to yellow face

my face my face was always there my face was always there and b under a filter under a filter like the lange so so heavy that it was hard to like make out the detail wasn't so heavy you could tell you could tell

alright

i'm just saying it was and i think it was enough for people to make the

well i don't know i don't follow you on twitter so

yeah i know but i've called you out i tagged you

o do you want me to go look at your tweet is that why you keep on saying that i can i can open up your tweet if you want no i want you to apologize i want to i'm not going to

why

because i think that i think that my claim at the very beginning is why i do wasn't want debate you because you w self crit

and well i can self criticize all the time i've had to like move my opinion away from things that i used to believe right self crit is a very good thing right self crit doesn't mean just like automatically accepting someone

someone's criticism of you if it's wrong

right

otherwise i would have to turn to a conservative conservatives

fucking criticize me a you but you're wrong and you made false accusations against me

i would look as a false accusation and that's what i want to clear up

and comrade

my comrade that was on screen before

he did amazing

by the way so i have n he did really he did really bad all right if i thought that you were if i thought that your laughing stock he was even fucking funnier all right

no

no

i'm not here to debate about china to be i mean i'm not i realize that you really want me to apologize

yeah and your chat was vile to me

vile

i'm so glad that you won't apologize to me you're encouraging your chats behavior

one second some

whatever whatever the fuct

i was just sent by my

mith you sent me something but it's

like gray scale for some reason on on my end

m i'm just confused i

we have chat logs but it's so it's like

dart for some reason

i just i just be like hey i'm ok i what what you have that

that's all i want to hear and i'll go away

i knowough

well i mean why i mean i don't get a disgusting accusation against me ok so let me let me let me ask you this you have said that you said that right really quick you said that i was i was sen a phobic because i believe in the in the weaker genocide right

i think that's a disgusting accusation right there but i don't expect you to

to apologize for that you literally accuse me of pretend to be a chinese person and you accuse me of being racist

against chinese people because i think that the chinese government isn't super great

i was correcting what you were saying

i was correcting what you were saying

and bring in

my personal experience which apparently doesn't count

i'm i don't think it does

if you have nothing to say to me that i'm going to go all right and i just want everybody watching to clip how

uh he doesn't think he owes me an apology

and how he tried to backpedal out of sexual harassment towards me

i didn't sexually harass you you didn't even claim that i sexually harassed you you supported i said your chat did last time

and now you're trying to backtrack i'm laughing about something else not this

uh

really by sent by want to send me tiny pp

who said that can you send me a screen cap of you have it i don't have it i genuine know even not i even listening you're not re've i'm listening i've responded to everyth you care about muslims in china but when i'm

talking to you about an issue i have with you

you just think oh i don't need to apologize to you

do i do i have to dori have to be fully apologetic to everyone because i care about the

the rights of people abroad

you don't even care about what i'm approaching you about

so you're going to pretend to care about people abroad that you don't even know

you never even spoken to

i

one second

uh

default

i'm scared to have someone debate samantha because i don't

trust samantha to not be

sity on my stream

oh no uh let me see

they're going to get ok i got sent chat logs

show her what a real dick looks like

ya and

i mean in context of the of the chat that was going on he was he kept on telling me to be mean

and so shore what a dick looks like

in that context

would mean

that's the harassment

because i don't know i was actually right my and that's what people thought people only came after me

i think that this is like dot sy shod i don't know

but

so if you're not going to apologize i'm going to go

but i just hope people can clip this

to show that you're very disingenuous about people that you apparently care about abroad if you w i bring you if you want to help someone can want to shoot yh if you want someone can shoot joe lewis a message and we can have both of you guys on to discuss it but i don't feel any need to apologize

you feel n need to apologize soy i have one last thing to say

i have one last thing to say this is you want to hear it i'm i don't know i hear it sure go for it

long with the

onong lives eas in pain

ok i was i was scared she was going to have like

say something really reprehensible that's why did the mute

oh fuck ok so the cash person wants to talk now let me go back to what we know is cash our guy

we know ok cash you're in the call

yeah cash is our guy can you test your micro sen him before and and our discord

ok i think that you need to hang up because your mike isn't

yup

no like fully hang up who is the

he school and then joined back into a discord call

redrag me i don't

threat is rising inpret is rising fuck off bones

alright

test test

yeah i think that you need to hang up and then after you hang up i'll drag you back in

for some reason that works with discord

bring the fall

ya

it is nothing to do with the permissions

um

ok

maybe

ok we'll just go into the debate channel all right one second i'm moving you to m collins

oh

all right helloll

uh

i can hear you now

what

he now

hello hello

hello you can hear me right

oh yeah once i'm going to turn you down just sort of yeah once i'm just maing mary microphone so yeah

i'm going to very est

but

very nice all right a so how's it going b i have a q question a few quick questions for you much ty to be like a big debate bros like i'm muly like going like one hour like speal with you but' fine i was going to ask you a few questions since i' i'm a member of the infrad community right and i just wanted to know like what's your stances on stuff since the only stance i know is like your china stance and stuff like that

so i guess in general since i don't only watch you

mhm uh what is your main general beliefs i guess

like what do you what do you stand for

generally speaking i've been doing a lot of self reflection about this recently i think that my baseline is

my baseline

fundamental value is the

improving people's quality of life

so

by um

like operating off of that i move from operating like going from

i want to increase the quality of people's lives to that means that people need more resources at their disposal which means that they need

to have more say in their workplace because the only way that you can really

to increase your like general wealth of a society is for people to

be a word sout and make decisions on their own so

that leads us to democracy and then on top of that the thing that

binds all that together would be socialism and that's how i s arrive at being a socialist i don't know exactly what

specific

like flavor of socialist i am

but

i believe in like the

the worker ownership of the means of production and the the

abolition of the commodity form and all of that

okay

uh so i'm not like try to be mean here no it's like

i can take it buddy i promise

socialism because like the only two flavors of socialism is utopian and scientific

on one second you're like you're mike

like

superarly end it was it just laughing or

o that'se be laughing okay okn ask you you mean here but uh

you know the only two flavors of socialism is scientific and utopian correct

i've don't know that yeah

well no you know when i'm when i say flavors of socialism i me mean i like i mean

like a democratic socialist or social democrat or well i guess social democrats wouldn't technically be i

so yes because i you know don'th the commodity forms well right of course you so like i would say like democratic socialist or like some label like that dan gest or whatever i really don't like authoritarianism i'm just talk about like the labels people give themselves

did you call yourself a dingus no i men't you know i'm just giving examples of like ideology that people w give to themselves

ok

ya

i mean you're laughing really hard right now i haven't made any claims whatsoever

yeah i thought you called yourself a dingis o n

ok

okay okay yeah

so so about democratic socialism like so what do you mean by that like can you kind of define it concextually like inside america at least like who do you call democratic socialist

oh well i guess i wouldn't really call anyone in

in the united states like in terms of like

politics a democratic socialist don't think that we have any socialists

truly and

in political power right now right

unless you disagree

i don't think that there's any hello hello can you hear me

yeah i can that ok i don't think that there's any making entertain socialists and sh make enterty olitical power right now we need to we need to f hols of congress or in the senate or anything so

h okay yeah i i can definitely agree with you so i don't think any like unless you're talking about

like

the comment

the communist party of

the usa i don't know anyone in the rongest party of the usa

n not in power no anyway i don't know any names of anyone that's like trying to get power in the united states that is a an actual socialist most of them are like social democrats or they are

you know

something like that

okay so i i guess another question for you would be sa i'm still trying to find out like what you believe in personally since like i don't really know much about you right so i'm not going to just kind of like assume things

ya so i's going

ok so

about democratic socialism so a question for you since like a lot of dem soocks like the you know acknowleogists

did you

uh vote for byden this year like do you like promote voting for biden at least uh i would promote voting for biden over the alternative that was trump yeah so why don't you exactly like

trump in the sense that like

why did you think b it was a lesser evil even though like

he's in office right now like not much has changed i mean the congress won't even like let him pass his infrastructure program so

well right i don't want to you know i totally agree with you i totally agree with you right the not much has changed but the problem with the united states government

that the way that its set up

it is not meant for any kind of rapid change

so to be able to like change it just himself that's not how our government works

i think that the the damage

right

that that trump did to

the the

to our

ally ship or into trade deals that

it's meaningfully a hurt

the small farmers a

material conditions shit like that are stuff that i don't think wden would have done so i was more in favor of biden that wouldn't be damaging our col like people's lives in the u

like further what did trump do thly downteoples lives i guess i mean we can look directly at the trade tariffs

that he put on china

that that benefited us and shil like it was pretty much like not not really as your game it was wen

it and it absolutely hurt both china and us it just hurt us more o iq no china was like you know making bucks off of that dude not china i don't want that you want to get into this conversation if you think that

no you live there you i mean i lially have some

but my sources a re t ok i usually go off r t and rdly confirms that themselves

ok so how does a how did the tariffs help

the united states in what way and i got back a lot of local industries in which we lost fm like you know no we lost way more jobs than we gained

just look at the steel tariffs that we did on on canada right

harley davidson i ha want to get their operations to mexico because of that because the steel was so much more expensive buying from the u s than it was from buying from canada so we lost like one hundred thousand jobs right there

ok we stnt want canada a lot of ok so i'm aware we did lose things right i' i'm not going to say we like fully benefit is i know we ended a lot benefit is a lot

we did bring a lot of local industries in which were lost like i don't really know the names what right now that's d wy i'm can't words a sing like wait really quick you can't point to a single example of

of something that we gained

from the

trump

tariffs and even then rightly t's even like apply in that context right so like

even if we did

to lose jobs i guess industries why do you think that's a bad thing you know since you're democratic socialist and you're utilitarian right

wouldn't you support that since it is

as soon as you do ary in sensell really quick interntion giving the workplace and that you kind of hate

and you know shipping like a lot of that off to different countries

the you knowili arian gain versus loss that we got there was not a

a positive

i

outcome

right

oh what way like

to since you well we're going to lost a whole bunch of jobs that were that were jobs for for

um

the the workers in america right

working at we'll just use harley davidson as an example because that's the first example i i kicked off right so one hundred fifty thousand jobs there right

we didn't help ourselves in terms of

our economic position with the with the tariffs right they were more in positions

on the other countries than anything that could possibly

help us right since people the amount of

the amount of

ah

one second fucking game is

distracting me so the amount of gain that we got from the amount of jobs we lost didn't equalize to the amount of

gain we would have got from like a lowere saling prices because the price of steel main like remained the same or rose in the united states

right

and they were forced and because of that

these these jobs went away that is a material why did i guess like like a more prospective since you one of the time in the moral is like you really just caing

put your stance as like a morally i guess utilitarian claim

but if we want to go utilitarian route

why do you want to keep the same system that you think negatively benefits

uh no not nely benefits like negatively it puts like a lot lot of nega negative consequences on people uh

in the u s because

if you were to ship a lot of those jobs off and so so fall so really quick follow that logic all the way down

so shipping jobs away is good because it's getting rid of the conditions of

a place on these people that would mean under what you're saying that shipping away all jobs from the united states to where nobody has a job would be a beneficial thing to the united states

i'm not never said ship away all jobs like those jobs that just lose jobs right that were damaging to our economy

right

yeah

yeah

no no no

the job ship being shipped away was the damaging part

why do you care about our economy if you're utilitarian because the economy is something that

it like when the economy is a good boy good things services are cheap what really quick really quick

i when you say a democratic socialist what does that have to do with

what i'm saying right now

when you have a when you have a good economy goods and services are cheaper right

and that means that you know like food and milk and

and rent and everything goes down when your economy is good

right

yeah but so that's a good thing wre the average worker right

actually um let me correct you on that because

this ok so this is actually a very very big misconception so like i'm not trys like an economics snerd because i'm definitely not it know like a lot of macro but from what i know this is actually a very very flawed neoclassical understanding of prices

because

prices and firms like the industrial firms ues inustrial sectors that you know a lot of the jobs that were lost and you know the trump

terrace right

a lot of those did not really deflate the economy nor did it really inflate the economy the prices pretty much stay the same and if we have a go very you know healthy economy see pbably support immigration for americ so it really quick you support i do know health i do i do support immigration but listen to what you just said right andll so so we didn't like prices in it rise or fall for the consumers right

but people still lost their jobs

ok but but the thing is which means that the price of steel was too expensive so they had to export those jobs to another country

ok so that is material harm being done to people

that doesn't do any kind of societal gain wouldn't one of the material benefit be like

the a guesst the rise of

i guess more pro labor activism inside america because you're litle this is the right yeah i ca

yeah i can engage with this argument right this is a this is like an accelerationsm argument right

i mean in some way it's litle i mean that's literally what it is people being materially harmed now in order to have to increase their sentiment for radical change later right

so like i understand what that sentiment i feel like that can be used tactically sometimes

however right

but when we're looking at the the

like overall way that we're conducting our

our business in the united states i talk about like socialists conducting our business right

sorry sor sorry i cut you off what do you mean socialist conducting our business like how we how we engage with people and start getting people to understand class cautious aor like gain class consciousnessb yeah ok i'm not talking about like a laueral business really quick really quick though

i don't think that

we can like

it

to two infinitum

right

just make people's lives really shitty

so that they will hopefully understand class consciousness i think that we have to

like

you know

educate people and we have to make people understand that

you know like

this is how this is

how the world works right the rich are

you know the ones that are really in charge and

we need to all work together in order to have a better society right

but i don't want people to be starving in order for them to understand that because and while i while i do understand that

that people are suffering now i don't want to increase the level of suffering in my society such that it's so insurmountable that people are just like under the boot of the government super hard and then they'll just you know with a way and

so so someone in the infrared server actually made a really great point

so no lips the white soil in't know if you know a person is but no lips white soy said that is an actual tenet of fascism

can that actuly sort of make sense

because

i knowt thatse are only one religion

that basically actually sort of implies that we should collaborate with the classes above us to educate people you know what i mean because you're basically saying that

and even like from your actions like money for voting by biden right

that's pretty much just promoting class bberationism you're just saying how about

we convince the upper class in the sense that we vote for the upper class

so we can convince the you know lower class

that

you know socialism is good or whatever but you realize that you voting for byden did not help that at all right like i know it was probably like some weird lesser evil game but you realize that the motives of voting for byden like i guess mainly around the time you know the elections were going on

was because people like vosh

i'm not saying you but people like vash mm stuff like that

thought that voting for biden would increase a pro labor sentiment in america and that's evidently not true we don't really have that big a class consciousness in america even ever biden

you know got in

and also there i like vulture infd server actually sent me a really good source so i don't know a lot about this until he sent me this

but apparently from the header says donald trump's terrorists say u s job says bidens commerce

so even bigons cloner no economist no economist that i have seen and there have been a lot that will like sit there and be like

well you know like we don't know right is either a wash or is negative for the u s economy right and if it's a wash where people lose their jobs but it doesn't increase the general well being i would say that that's

probably

m

you know not a great fall aurge work also so also

yeah

ok

ok it says that biden has left trump china terrorists and place

yeahchin like he's trying to be a chinahwk to try it youre right no no you're right you're right i super agree with you this isn't great right

i don't i don't think that this is great he's trying to be a chinahawk to to try and win over conservative so that they can build a coalition but it's never going to fucking work right he's just being a stupid fuck

so you're saying

that biden you wanted to get by biden elected so you would have this

uh i don't know that's what i've heard earlier you said like you wanted to get bytom le this like i think that would the there's a policy reversed right but like you realize i don't think you know no no you you misunderstand my point right and i don't think that you're

like capable of understanding my point because i think that you probably have a completely different world view

but i don't think i have i have a hundred percent yeah i did very very and that really so

so i think that when we are looking at the things that we are hoping from biden

right at minimum and this is

been kind of the case so far right

at minimum

he's not going to continue to completely fucking cuck the united states in every single fucking metric

like trump did right

trump

absolutely

h enrich the

the upper class super fucking hard right

byden is at least in in backards come o hod on really quick really quick you i let you talk right

so ok yeah so

biden is at least

in his words supporting unions right and he's the kinds of legislation that he's putting forward like the infrastructure bill are kind of fucking based right it like any socialist should be able to get behind the infrastructure bills because

those are like they create nver going to neverre going to pass the working class people

they uh

they upgrade our infrastructure massively souch that we can you know actually try to

redress some of the fucking problems

or some of the harms that we've done to the

they're never going to pass

like

poor communities ever in this country

um so like i don't know what part of that is

at all

controversial right

now i think that we're looking at something that was like

it's ether five dollars a fucking a fashful fuk and youn't calling is i don't know like

how far he would have gone the so much lay narcissistic

wait wait wait son and ok how

i have a lot of stuff to go over with you because i know a lot of stuff

the mamyping was outrageous

so i guess the

easiest topic to touch right now from what you said

is you'r saying

b at least and hiss words at least and a words let me quote you on that

is supporting unions ok

so what is it and you're not actively damaging the u s is

like standing

around the world yeah like that's the bok thing

but but he but he isn't protecting the unions tell me the union right in america right now and see if it has increased any moore from mike

what happened the trunk i know truck used the bus unions to but like even then like another point you made which was very very silly to me was

you said that by an infrastructure program like literally any socials can get down to that

i sure hope they could otherwise you hate working class people

okay but the thing is right

is that the infrastructure programs not being passed you're only speaking in future ten it hasn't been passed yet right and they're trying to we're going to be the whole negotiation thing right i understand like it's because it's not passed right i'm talking about like

the infrastructure plan that he put forward is definitely a good sign comparatively to the sort of things that trump was doing

when we're looking at the kinds of fuckin

crazy

the trump tax cuts

or if we're looking at the the seven hundred seventy six commission

or if we're looking at the the tariffs that he put forward that were just

unambiguously

fucking bad for the united states like

yeah i would rather have someone put forward

some good policy in this country for a fucking chain isn't

but he isn't that's the point what's wrong withll don't know tell me screeching is fun but let's try and avoid it on the stream all right

so no really quickly really quick can you tell me what's wrong with the infrastructure bill

saying anything's wrong with ive i've been saying for at least a few months now in my head at least ilyingbu and really i guess as much as i used to do on hundred i've been saying that we you win and thank you so much for the five peaper way i get you some mch right but the saying is is byans ideas there's nothing wrong with it the problem is that he isn't doing anything so i'm only speaking from action speaks loud

words type of standpoint not speaking from words speak louder than actions which you're sort of doing in my opinion

and also another thing pullm me uh

okay and then another thing is that

and do you think that byans taxing the rich you said like some a crazy trump tax cot correct he said like

yeah i don't like that like you suer grade very good for the upper class yeah

yeah yeah so but like he but you're saying that he's doing it for the upper class

the thing is eventually uring the capitol hill rites he scared the same elitesaid he cut taxes for and even then biden isn't doing anything either do you think bys going to tax jeff basos but the reason why jeff they really uick really because i do you think that

the january sixth

riot was a good thing

yeah

why o so i spoke with the president this afternoon and he ended in our infrastructure negate negotiations

a more said in a statement

throughout our negotiations we engaged respectfully fully and candidly

delivering several serious accounterauthors that each rip represents the largest infrastructure investment republicans have put forth she said

tuesday's announcements marked the end of more than a month of intense negotiations between republican senators the president and their respective staffers

i mean infrastructure negotiations have literally went nowhere

but

like i'm basically gotll that and like i understand i understand like the again

what did i stay like what was the first thing that i said the at the beginning of this is that

the united states government is

like by design like a slow moving thing like they don't want

tod

the let the country

move

super fast

ok like what is your not right is not a good thing like it's not a good thing but you're speaking and as what has would call abstractions you're speaking in abstractions right now i you're just saying well what what what is the what is that is civiic thing that you want me to address because i'm not sure what you want me to talk i'm addressing it from a ready at hand perspective i'm addressing it from what is actually happening at the moment

and i mean p you're not really doing that you're just saying well

i think that you know by injur t abstractions now i'm still trying to figure out what is it exactly that you want to w want to address here wa wait

nowready at hand perspective

ready at hand yes

okay so what are you ready a yourersect

exactly what is that i mean i i'm

i'm speaking in a present context

in which things are actually happening at the moment and what you're saying is not happening at the moment you're only speaking in

what could happen or what should be a i'm not speaking aasically every like fascist does ok so you wanting to just make this going off like going off i thought you were trying to figure out what i believed so i figured that's all what prescriptive claims were all about

but what do you want to talk about with right now buddy

ok i want to talk about why do you think

why did you like really vote for byl like do you really think that thismrcracy would really like

go back on his policy proposals and actually promise you anything

ho do you guse the guys it really didn't

with the congress we have now so like

i'm i think i'm not again like i said in the beginning like i said at the beginning really quick right like i sa at the beginning

all i think is that biden will not do more active harm

than trumpwod

that is the baseline reason why i would vote for biden over trump

what do you say sorry

i didn't hear that

biden will do less act of harm

then trump would

that is why i would advocate voting for a bybl over trump

what is he doing that's doing less active harm however like wellut souting off super racist rhetoric and emboldening fucking white nationalists and fascist a doing that wait why did you know why didn't trom is tromp was doing that

right

sot

trump on the one trump is the one that was bouting off the super racist rhetoric and

in banning muslems from the country and

and trying to build the wall and saying no you mexicans were were

how can murderers and thieves and rapists

you never okay

so i why the tank hees like simpings so fucking hard for by it are for trump this is a raly to me let me let me correct my pronouns to you i'm actually a fourth year some a tanky although i sympathize with a lot of marxists on in the styt

okay i i felt with and it's like i had to correct you there but i mean i don't rely mind if you call me tanky you can call me a tanky

but um

as i was saying

as i was saying

um

okay trump first of all trump did not ban all muslims of the country

so i was actually very contextual

you only banned the locations in which you know he saw terrorists come from in the past it wasn't ethnic thing you didn't say homo really gat really go if that's the if that's the it's if that's the truth number one then why didn't he ban people coming from saudi arabia

keep what

why didn't we why because really quick no conrad vultron

stop

so the here's the thing iight redll

i don't know who this person is

oh ok so if you guys just want to like dog pile that's fine i would like to do it in the lock room so i'm not trying to list you if you trump if the trump muslim band wasn't to ban all muslims like he said he was trying to do at the very beginning during his fucking campaign right and then as he continued to try to do

throughout his is the the intro to his to

the very beginning of his

uh

first term is president and only term is president

um

right the only reason that they chose those nations is because that was the only legal route to ban the most amount of muslims from the country

well no it was because at the time there was a lot of o

who is j c denton

ok no i ca one of alls

there was a lot

of terrorists coming in through a lot of those locations even saudi arabia like i know the we i know u s backed saudi arabia a lot i agree but uh even from saudi arabia

uh you know trump suspects that you know like even a lot of presidents do not just trump but trump suspected that isis comes from a lot of these regions and so he was like okay how about i put a ban on all these regions that he thinks isis comes from like that's pretty much the thought process of trump during that

it wasn't that all muslims were harmful and all muslims equalized isis in fact you know during trump's i guess muslim immigration ban there was actually still muslims immigrating did you know that like i literally still still saw pe still saw muslims in the s that freshly immigrated

so no we try to really quick really quick let me see what were what were all the countries i'm trying to find the list

uh i i don't know all the countries that's why that's why that's why i got confused when you said saudi arabia be caause i do like context in this ian in the sense of countries but i do know the reason why he did that because he suspected that

terrorists came from a lot of those said countries so

yeah i know i'm going to be honest if you here i'm noting to pretend to know know everything right

so i mean if you can work on me here i can definitely work with you all right here we are order exclude countries of origin from radicalized muslim purpetters of attack against the united states such as

saudiiba lebanon the united kurstan not including aser cat leban to conduct a business such as that oh sorry i'm i'm

maybe i'm wrong

maybe i meant to say the united arab immigrants but actually n know itas at the beginning

united arab immigrants no emirates that's a kind of that kind of re

united arab emirates

is racist

the name of the country

n know you said united arab immigrants you know sa i said emirates

oh th he said immigrants i was liberal liberal fa allright it's sorry it's my it was the anglo and me slipping out

m yeah no that was anglo ns of there d super super anglo um

still trying to find

alright here we are high commission

for refugees

and syria jordan iraq

and lebanon

ah okay

was syria syria ss a great example the u s suspects a lot of terrorists come from syria since they're pretty much geo politically opposed to each other of course they would ban immigration but we already have one of their you know hold on

but we already have one of the most stringsent stringent immigrant immigration and refugee

policies in the world

alright okay

i agree so why do we have to ban people from this country when we already go throug so much through so much stuff

it was a terrorist threat to chump ok i don't want to stay somek on this i don't want to stay stuck on this topic beus also one to because i don't know enough about it

no i i do i i just want to like uh address other things too because this wasn't the only thing i was going to address you know besides that

trump wasn't all that bad of a president and like he really ca he was one of those people that actuallyd the right nttering was to their point where they had something like the fucking unite the right rally real notzis from all over the united states came together to show that they are they are happy that donald trump got elected

um what do you say

i said that a emboldened white nationalists and far right groups fascists and all sorts of fucking crazy militias

to do you be open with their with their belief

wait wait wait what white nationalist isut

i'm sorry say thatgain you're cutting out you' know not youre likem is fucking up buddy

did you know that something is actually against white nationalism so oh i did it oh i'm sorry did he say that like

when did he say that when he when he said that we know bthth the both the fucking lefties and the fucking nazis

at the unite the right rally were you know there were fine people on both sides of that

wait are you saying it was a molltop rimon trup pack and the you had the right rally

oh w let me let these rightes there were barely any lefties inside the charlottesviille thing

if you're referring to that i'm saying that they i'm saying that there were counter protesters and he was saying that those people were the were the ones that instigated all the violence

and it wasn't the right wingers the fucking nazis saying that there were good people and we was he wasn't referring to the the

pol the pressed him the fucking media pressed him for three days

but for to plea please say something please say you disavow white nationalism

please say that you disavowed the neo nazis and he wouldn't do it and then he did and then he went back on it wall

i i will say that i disavow sansoul

but i mean continuing from that

i was going to say that the right wingers a trump supposedly back were not the neo nazis in fact trump himself

look literally call group what group what restaurant its lle would be an acceptable group to to

to be associated with

what do you say which group at the charlottesville

rally unite the right rally

would be an acceptable group

to be associated with

the make american great again crowd the make america great again crowd that was the most except

well they were all saying that

right

so there were neo nazis and there were anti semites and there were fucking

adam ofofen and all sorts of fucking crazy groups there right all do i don't want to a crazy thing

wait adam wffin was not at the

adam wrobit was not at the unit the right rally

i think i think that there were there were people that were associated with us wastust you knows i do it the right

our swastka's to us in wf it was not you know at the right rerally and second of all ok what about all the you know nots the and if i if i can see that to you what about all the other neo nazis

what about the neonazis i don't know i mean not all neonazis are part of a monolithic k atam walkins i don't know

but whate are you know there are some acceptable neo nazis to you

it hundred b that

fuy that out

i was implying

that

the conservatives of the right wingers that trump back were the people that were parading for his campaign make american great again proud there was no one i wll not in there explicitly on the on the

like trying to say like we're here to to get people to

to vote for don trump because he had already been elected

right

they were there to get on behalf of the as right they were there on behalf of the all right

in order to

unite people from the neo nazis and the fuckin

proud boys and the fucking

um the fucking like paleo cons and all these fucking crazy different groups that all

like to label themselves something different but they all believe the same things neo nazi things

and yeah so you know i don't know what what is a good group there let's bring back a tone here yeah what do you thin what do you think neo nazis what is it i'm going to use your own l anglo logic against you what is the tence of neo naziism

i mean like how do you know how these are just anuncers that are around today right

so like a lot of like the fashion stuff they believe they walk around with the fucking

the odal ruin and shit they

you know

like i think i don't know exactly what you're asking me do you think neo nazism is a historical phenomenon that leds to this type of stuff because

neo nazism

is nothing like trump supporter frum supporters a little i don't think no no no let's not let's not get bogged down on that i don't think that every single trump supporter is a neo nazi i'm saying that everyone that was at charlottesville was a neo nazi

what okay no but but you said that uh the right uh you said

neo nazi values in which they all believe and i just want of the question i'm talking about the i'm talking specifically about the people

at charlottesville

the people at charlottesville feel feel so people like

uh the one that said like

the it was like

jews will not replace us like yeah you know the huge amount of people that were walking around and saying that sort of stuff and

and you know

gas the caselers and etc etc all those like mean words that we're not allowed to say on twitch because they're al l yeah yeah yeah i mean yeah although it is the clean neo nazis

you know the racial slur for oh you mean bike like replace with a k by yesyah getting realse of the sun there butddy

okay stakes okay so

but okay that trump did not call those people good trump really has jewish family members why would he do that

you realize that's a real argument against like no no doesn't really sem to say much about it you we have people connected to you that like are literally ethnic jews themselves why would you have any prejudice the back people literally hate ethnic do you think that there are some black people that might not be on board with like

b a lim or like broader

black liberation

i mean

i'm not broad and not broagd i'm not on board of f lm because first of all i'm talking about black liberation in general

well there is black people that do support black liberation like you realize that the people there are some that yout don't i mean devily there are black people that support black liberation i'm talking about those that like

don't believe in black liberation right do you think that there might be some people that aren't like

super self interested outside of the fact that they are getting in with the with the current dominant

hadmonic force

in society what do you mean b like mean like the majority ws awens

oh well nneth owens believes in black liberation the sense that like she believes that

there there is probably believes in black liberation in terms of

like

on

white people i mean i mean like she literally like does like she loves the civil rights act like i don't know because i used to watch andasoda owens whenever i used to be like im you years ago

now i was like two years ago i'm a tanke you to you now right i'm a tanke you so back then i'm s you sad we were forot wavist or whatever the fuck you said i'm nott a fourth ways i'm a fourth arist but but anyways i

the candice owens two years ago basically praised the civil rights act and that's he does actually example of why she said america was not racist i was actually one of her examples th charlie kurt candice owens all them butly support black liberation that term

or in that sense right

wen to soing not like any black liberation in the people that like ndae i guess the black what you're referring to but we don't hate black liberation i like do you think those people want to be enslaved by their way owners

like i seem thats like thats like some weird prejuice i guess we have but

i i don't know i i guess it's just like some weird stereotype i think you have because you

you basically i actually i they want to be like slaves to white people i just think that they're using their the what social capital they can get from white people in order to get ahead in life

what do you mean by that it's like you mean like the

what social capital they can get for like

from like aber oposit his owner

yeah or like or like people that'll pay them to spout off talking ports i they want to

it's really it's really lucrative to be a grifter

oh okay but you realize that candace owens is just someone that like

she's really even grifting you know she's just one of those people like

u believe whatever kirk says like she doesn't really care about politics that much but i guess if you want to gohe cares about politics a whole bunch because it's her entire job and she's paid to do to sell a certain area can you but you realize that people that believe in the liberal establishment aren't always gripthers like i caunld say bosh is a gri because he claims to be a mark know you can claim all sorts of things i don't i don't

like

care who you

claim is aggressor like that

i are going to each one of those people but i don't think that you can argue that candice owens isn't a gripter

i mean she isn't though shoe' like a used to be sho used to be associated with the democratic party right and then when it was more lucrative to be a republican she switched parties and she started doing stuff

for the republican party and like republican talking points

oh yea i i know okay the thing is though is that

is the same thing with dave rubin who used to be part of the young turks network and then he found out that he could make a lot more money

by having on a bunch of right wing well actually leaders i me them talking about bod enoug without i'm not like ok i'm not trying to like de fend the groub and n am ont

but i'm saying that dave ruben i can agree with you he's definitely a grip there differences that candae owens

she literally like' is pretty much kind of like those people that you find spineless on like say

uh charlie kirk's uh host shows like

for example i'm not try to get too off topic here like there was this gay black man that kirk used to pu put on like events right and that was during like the raid that like nick inthays did with like his ropers and

basically the scape blighting was pretty much parroting everything kurk said

like you realize like just because you part whatever you know i guess your thing you're part of saesn't mean like you're really a griftor

just means that you probably just get convinced too easily i youre pretty much finess like

i only think spoundless peoplere gritthers i just think that like

they're just people that like want to find their own position

like i gon to agree with you david ruman like literally saw a lot of

big bucks he can ally get out of the ear

republican party but doesn't really mean that candiccee owens herself is a grep no i don't think that that tracks right i think that

kind ofs has their own reasons right i think that they're very financially motivated but this is completely off the point i don't care about these people that much

yeah i don't either i'm more i'm more interested really quick i'm interested about you because you you're like inf you're in ford person crew person you say you're not a marxist linist right so but you don't consider yourself a socialist right

uh i i guess you would like want to say like in context yes i i i don't i don't agree with the system so i'm definitely part of the marxist lminus uh

i guess resist

resistant but like no i'm not really a guess a utopian socialist i definitely like to follow historical materialism whenever it comes to socialism so

yeah i guess you can title me a historical materialist yeah sure

ok so like why do you why do you feel the need to defend

fascists

what fashions that i defend

like trump

when people at least people that exhibit fascist like behavior how about that i don't know i can't look into his mind and know if he's a fascist right

but i can i can say they definitely exhibits a lot of fascist like behavior go do would you disagree with it

wait

okay

ok listen to me

es okd i was hilarius to that much of be mean to you but i how is drump i was troump a fascist

and i just like

clear ho was trouble fascist

m i don't know who the fuck this peabody is you aren't you like the twelve year old sounding person that i saw earlier

a

on on stream peabody

oh yeah

okay can you jump into get up call ngen

only eter

buller load here ok

anyway son so um

i was this trump

how is trump a fascist i think that he exhibits a lot of fascion like behavior like you know excluding entire groups extreme nationalism

um using uh religion to his gaine when he can like there's

a lot of

ways that we can define fascism allight but ly make it same point the bones of coat made last night the ho i can make it more i can make it

better than him all right so let's i mean we can look at the fourteen points of fashism there's also another definition thatone sent me the other day

that i thought was like pretty great but unless we can look at these kinds of metrics by which to decide what something is or isn't

and how else are we supposed to know what

like if someone is a fascist or a socialist

or theer no cause we don't

we don'tre we not allowed to apply leanings to eple if i wasn't what would say say if i was an orthodox christian w supported the legalization of gay marriage andan abortion would that make me a fascist to know

and you gyes

why

why because that is itself is not inherently what happened with youre impear and piers this wrollvi you is not ho your assist i don't think that it has to no no no no you're assuming a lot i don't think that you can do like

to deductively reason whether someone is or isn't a fascist you can only inductively reason that you can only look at signifiers

of how past fascist movements have worked and how

and people are acting like within that purview right and i think they all exhibits a lot of the things that other fascist movements have done

what this is this is a problem with your inductive reasoning however because

literally your views of fascism has always existed

throughout ages before even fascism arise because originally fascism was a storical mohenomena

menomena phenomena that was against the syndicalst and against the reactionaries

before then people literally held the same views maybe not nationalist views i mean people were definitely more i guess you can call it anglo labels localists like they didn't really care about nations before the french revolution

but there was deadly people held the same illegalization of gay marriage legalization abort abortion literally

christian leaders

before fascist italy even existed

did the same thing you would you call those pre modern usion leaders

what would i all them like i would say that they're like just because there was a labl hold on really quick just because there was a label that was created later on doesn't mean that we can't retroactively point towards like behaviors that people put forward were like exhibiting right and say like

oh this is

this is kind of like

fashion behavior but it didn't really ex back in that kind of like

ideology didn't like fully form until the forty's right

but there are a lot of react i wasn't the forty's it was the twenties oh yeah yah sorrym yeah you're

one hundred percent right sorry

but like we're

like even if

we can like point towards that right we can like retroactively look back in history and we can apply

the the way that we define

mental illnesses to people that exhibited those mental illnesses like bipolar disorder or schizophreniaess mental illnesses has always existed fascism recently only not recently but fascism pretty much only fascism that what is fascism to you really quick not like the ideology but like is it is it like a set of ideals or is it like

m

like like what is it to you

it isn't a set of ideals it is a historical phenomena that was a capitalist reaction

between and between catalyst reaction of the reactionaries in the marxist that's pretty not you know yeah pretty much marxis i mean if you want to call some thes marxist that goes into a different debate i don't know if you know too much about that but it was pretty much just a reaction against marxism and a reaction against

and how is that different than

you know like the anti the fuckin

anti s j w sentiments all over the fucking internet that were like very very marxian

all the fucking people that were starting to talk about socialism on the internet

right

all these fashion people that were

very very happy with trump right

with a lot of the same rhetoric that he used with the same internet

the language that they use

right

do you not think that

these things have overlap at all

and he's got historical phenomenon that rose arose out of

a reactionary

movement toward out of capitalism against socialism

you don't think that could possibly apply to the world today

no because why people don't don't oky

because these people are not capaigning for what they call fascism for be it's very theurpose that's why i very specifically said i think that trump exhibits like

fascist like behavior i don't know if he's a fascist like ok but the fascist like behavior you listed

he was

always existing you can't just place a label on it and call it pism or fascism whate whatever you want to call it because it does not something that is inherently exclusive to fascism if trump let's let's say youes fal he had a re i'd go you know that you know what this feels like to me it feels like when people are like you know there can't there can't be neo nazis all the nazis died out in the in the one ninethundred forty s when nazi germany fell right but like we can

look out our fucking window and we can see people walking around with swastika flags right and we can say

m it seems like there are fascists in the united states today they are gaining power they are getting getting more

people on their side of the

of the political aisle right

so like why why is it that we can see that out our window we can see it on the internet people like

claiming that we need to you know

go out in genocide jews and shit

and we're like oh those aren't actually those are diet fascists we can actually use the word fascism we have to use neo colonialism and t s j w rational wiki boys like why why can't we just call a spade a spade

is it's not cause i'm go not people outside the lem us because i'm not the answer to this sansoy

son soy retired

because it's only self evident to people who are in your left weight bubble no one else thinks that that's fucking why because it's not self evident

fucked moron

i literally wasn't even paying attention to this shit i literally wasn't even paying attention

we're going to go do something else if this doesn't go anywhere because i thought the fault was coming on i thought the fault was coming on

ed cash

make this entertaining dude this is like not entertaining right now

honestly it's not

i've literally been waiting for default i've been waiting this whole time for funcking default to get on

everything saso is talking about can be applied to literally anything it literally applies to anything

usefully

the singce

you're so ugly

how

probably all of them

we a ten

one hundred percent

go to sleep are you stupid dude

why will i go to sleep

ok cash you did really well dude but i'm so tired of son soy i am not i want to watch it anymore i want to move on

but okay i'm going to give some commentary

a

at two did very good dude at two literally

fox

walcked him

you'd add two literally

fox s on sword so

laps in the chap for aed to he did a really good fucking job

and he really did a great job

you know if somebody funny gets on sansy stream just let me know

but for now like

you know i'm just

worn out

and i'm ti and i don't want to look at sonss ugly face anymore like literally that's the most amount of time i've ever spent on anyone you know

but anyway guys

and we're going to check the read it and we're going to do a few other things we're just going to move on from that

were just going to move on

sultan is going to go to badim later this week

so

stay tuned for that it's going to happen later this week

that's when sultan's going to go on

but anyway let's check this right out

read it fantasy verse reality

we must ban all forms of capitalism

you must ban all forms of socialism

so ugly dude

sort of u uh

and this is literally the reality

like real shits going on here

and this is what's going on down here

hundred percent

what can facts wll do

welcome back

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hogan is our beach

hogan is on or going something new where is something new

something no ready

ready

daily recap of the pogan situation we're not going to see we're going to tell you

auh pogin is the biggest pussy on the internet

i'm seeing a lot of people talk shit on behalf of pogan

and yet pogan is too afraid to debate me reminder why that is you can go check out the video its on live stream

a pogan exposed it's on our live stream playlist

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he was d m me and he wanted

proposition a very specific proposition of

do i affirm central planning and he decided to define central planning

in terms of most of vulgar curricuature of a plot of a command economy

i said well china is centrally planned what do you mean by central planning

ah he said do you a permit or not and you want to do black and white so we can straw man me

and make it and have an easy debate

but

h funny enough a week earlier right this fuckin guy pogan

he sends a message to one of the showrunners

i wanted to beat has

o because i think marxism leninism is an abhorrent idiology it's not viable he was talking all this shit

like specific topics we're going to debate about

and i said ok i want to debate about these topics so i messaged him

and he turned it around he goes i want to proposition about central planning specifically

so he won't debate me

he's literally running away he's a fucking pussy

it's a fuck and pussy

he's literally a fucking person

he's still running away from me pogan still refuses to debate me because he's a pussy

he's literly foking scared

he's literally falking scared

he knows

this is the thing no

i'm more knowledgeable than pogan

i'm smarter than pogin i'm quicker on my feet than pogin is and the fuckin knows that

fuck knows that

that's why you want to beaby

it's ok

let's g back to red

this post is an instant class

an actual tankee is about to win in my country

i live in peru

an actual tanky and borderline red fascist may win in the election in my country

that alternative is also bad but i genuinely fear that my anarchist beliefs

w'll make me a target

with the tanky regime

his party openly praises totalitarian dictator lenin

and i worry is this a joke this is got to be a joke

and i worry that the tieninmins massacre two point zero will happen soon

i just woke up in this post

went from forty five upvotes to zero

that's got to be a joke to that's got to be a fucking joke

got to be literally a fucking joe

i wouldn't be surprised if it's not

marks and angles were also the infrared of their time

let's see that otherwise is t l d r but i'll read it fine

like the prophets of old they were less than tolerant of their critics they were unaccommodating rude unjust

opinionated dismissive and disdainful of those who failed to fully accept their notions

their works were peppered with the most abusive characterization

of those who did not agree with them

by nature mark seemed to have been

irascible ill disposed to accept any kind of criticism

he rarely if ever took counsel graciously

engles was no less dismissive of criticism

however uncertain it may be that this behavior could be ascribed to a natural disposition

rather than attributing their content to a shared character flow would seems more plaussible that both marts and engels understood themselves possessed of a trups

against which no criticism

and now i oant to tell you the real fucking reason

it's literally because of this marx and angles were veterans of the fucking

the young hegelians

they were all timers part of an older generation

and they clim they clung to a brilliance from german idealism

and the whole kind of the new renaissance and enlightenment

and

they just didn't have fucking time for bulls shit dude

it's like their minds were up here and people would just

fucking stupid narrow minded

they didn't have time for it

be

the output seems simplistic guys but the genius behind marks and angles it's so profound they just don't have time for retard

just don't have time for retards

because the place they're coming from is so fucking profound

you know

it's like it's like there's not even any time to explain you literally just don't get it you really just don't fucking get it

you know

where they're coming

ex cuban dictator

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then so battista's daughter is homeless in florida

okay

based angles exposes during anglebod

durings total lack of understanding of the nature of dialects is shown by the very fact that he regards it as a mere proof producing instrument

as a limited mind might look

upon formal logic or elementary mathematics

even formal logic is a primary method of advancing at results events from known to unknown in dialects is the same

only much more eminently so moreover

forces its way beyond the narrow horizon of formal logic

is the germ of a more comprehensive view of the word

re upload hosber's

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i just gota make thumb nails but i'm goninga reupload it

the worring

it's going to be reopen

i really just got to make

ps channels the true sphirit of lenin

yeah i mean like in that regard yeah like i don't know where people get this idea that marxists were polite people they weren't

policy wasn't important to lenin

around the time of trials that attended the unrest lenin

a the issues engaged di not touch on

policy matters they were considered the most abstract of philosophical deliberations

oh but it's all word salad it's all meaningless you know m

the guys are n

you know

i'm not on that level i need people to understand this though

i'm a fucking media personalit you know what that means i'm a media personal i get in front of a camera and i make you laugh i make you have a good time

we have a lot of k ws in the chat

and you know

maybe you learn a thing or two as well but i'm not a political leader

i don't know a shit about being a political leader

let me tell you something

in china

you think she got in power because he's like a fucking media guy like me no

she has he had decades of experience practical experience

proving his ability to be a leader and that's why he's in powered

i will never be in power

understand i'll never be a guy who's going to be anywhere near you

howard

you know

people h it's easy to get confused because in the past the person in power

is the main media personality

i'm just a media personality understand i'm not he i'm not a political leader at all

so you got to understand that don't get delusionedal

don't be delusional you know i don't have any experience

organizing i don't have any experience

lea leading people

to do anything

you know

i don't have any experience

doing anything politically i have no experience

you know when it comes to any of that

so don't get it confused

anyone seen this long video about medical lysentchoism

alls critical ray theory lysentoism

i know because it's crimps

i can avoid it anyon

but like uh

can

it's a shame

chame

just the shame

i

i get it critical race theory sucks but what does that have to icents

foot

wah is this durham operations yeah it is i know

the org is the

where the bug is this

there's no sound oh my god my desktop's been muted

this whole fucking time my desktop was muted

butter fall

no wonder you guys

did i miss anything no i didn't

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i have no idea what any of durham operations videos mean i never understand

but

there's there there

there's a lot of effort that goes into the

so i can respect that i just

it's a mystery

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couldn't retreated on as economic positions when the market got in

i still use

team issued a statement outlining its economics plans

former moderate in the campaign mayor because they're lying to the fucking stock

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the fuck of red star radio the fuck do you know you stupid fucking lazy bitch

when have you wander anything hah

you american leftoid retards you're still fucking soyfacing and cooming over fuck and a o c

one senator from the bronx the most liberal part of all fucking america

who you managed to get elected to the senate

when

three years ago four years ago and you're still soyfacing it's all you have

you've never won anything

like all you have is a o c

and that wasn't even you

that was fucking people like corb and trent

and all those other fucking people who know what they're doing who a o c fired

be she's a traitor

the psychology of left oy

what is this

if you have been exposed to leftisy

stn't let me tell you that

so expo all right this might be good but i hate vapor waves i'm not going

i come back

a leftweight psychiatrist invited to yale spoke of fantasies of shooting white

what

the fuck is this

people make my blood work

i goound five years today

good

people who say this

you ever noticed people who say this always have like a white boyfriend

i systemically

domping

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and stopped watching the news

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of any we person that got in my way garing their body

and lading my blooding hands as i walked away relatively gples

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i don't

what am i supposed to say

oh my god

is this fucking pogan

the fock is this shit

so ugly dude

so ugly

on

let see pogan's ugly face

everyone

in the past i've sincerely held economic

that i unequivoc

do not

in addition i've trolled as positions that i find now and found at the time to be abhorrant

why did i do this i am not sure it meant

you will never see me

blook like this

like

my hairstyle will always be good and if i can't have a good hairstyle i'm going bald

like i'll never look like dogshit like this you know

i'll always try my bet i know right now

doesn't look that great

im

but

if i ever got to this point

like if i ever got to that point

i'm just going bald

i'll never fucking you to this that point

matter

because at the end of the day it was her

the bottom line is i recognize now and i have for a while at the

positions are not

that isn't who i am today and it's not what i stand

to be clear i never have and currently don't hold racist homophobic

transfhobic anti semitic

islamophobic or sexist

i do my best especially recently

to realize i don't have all the answers or even the perspectives

necessary to have all the answers

contact

what is he talking about

he's so boring to listen to i don't give a phoe i'm downloading this shit fucking

dam tanke is always being right about the u s state department supporting fascism

whitehouse admits cia involvement in war on corruption which jailed lulu

an elected bolsonaro

oh but we're just paranoid right

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am i fucking laughing at the zoo am i five years old or something

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hold on is a default going on

the fault going on sansy stream

let me know when that happens

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what is this

i hate the anglo boks we've got you surrounded tell us the tenets of fastism

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the chad soviets vers the virgin left that we've seen this before yous want to watch it again

youve seen it before

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mom who had a boyfriend who's like a

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right

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how can a serial killer be just watch the fucking movie don't fucking

bother me about it

thought

osbers pogan

you're wrong and you're a grotesquely ugly freit

through and through

dominance project the buck is this

this is what you share on the red in now

gentleman antonio here

today we're going to talk about the perception of a shapd head

basically what do people think when they see a guy with a shaved head this is based on a two thousand and twelve study that was done at the

at o c s they shave everybody's hat

five

and

they measure they actually had i think it was like sixty students and they asked him to rate these men on agreeability attractiveness age and dominance

and what did we find what were the shaved men what were they

higher above everyone else where with a rated high

dominance is where it was so

but this goes to opium this is copium for me

oka was it just this particular group was it a big enough study ah there were some holes that you could say you know is it that

men basically or this person like a you know a rebel or something like that masculinity attractiveness

a

here

did it matter were you more attractive were you more dominant this is what they found

so

if you had shaved your head

you were proceed

as more dominant

you were perceived as more confident

you were proceed

as more masculine you were also perceived

to be a little bit taller to be a little bit stronger in the way they measure the

there's hope for mefter all

it's ok

it's

strength was bench press so i guess if you shave your head you will be perceived as a stronger you know as having a higher bench press but be real though whether i have hair or not

chances are i can benge more than you

like for you if you're in the chat chances are i can bench more than you chances are

chances are can i can bench more than you

look at my fucking chest

yeah you can't you can't you no matter how hard you try you're not going to build a bigger chest th meat

ok you i mean

you can try as hard as you want you will not have a chest as powerful as mine

you can you can try as hard as you want

you can go as hard as you want

your chest

will not be as

big as mine

you know

do fifty two hundred fifty

i could do two hundred fifty

problebly

you got three fifty on incline ok steroid anddy

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how much do you bench press i don't fucking

's a lot

you were also perceived as being a little bit older

and you know that that's pretty powerful now when it came to leadership potential

when it came to norm violation

there was no difference between having a shapedbard one

grow you can clearly see that this guy you know has maybe one third one quarter of what he used to have up there

and what they found were the doctors don't explain

thank you dr lessandro

lessandra would call this sclpe and as he is right

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is the fault talking to sansuy the guys

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better be good holl

sounds

if the seem to disagree with is actually like a product of

them having to survive in

the material conditions that

who is this focking guy

is the fault

is this the fault

with the fuck is this guy

your default is we can we can all you can all

jump in here and argue with me

all together yah and youy have all or not talk to a little bit

but but listen

i just don't understand

why

something that is so

ubiquitous amongs

socialist thinkers as to what i think would be

a

a pretty reasonable definition that we can all

you know agree on is

workers owning the means of production

that's like a that's a huge fucking that's a huge

ge's retarded where's default

maarxism is not

definitional based it's exactly are people from our discord is going on there educating him

mm

he's getting like a tutoring lesson with the fire

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unifyed characteric characteristics and fanscism

but

listen't

critical marges is not b as med same as marxials wantamentally

marxism is fundamentally a way of viewing history

and the development of political economy in the nature of political economy does not

some policy platform

exactly like that that's what leftcms think it is a fundamental i you look so madp lk o mass f look at it based in the tradition of you look cardo oh mad like what is

hop his bot to

he looks super mad this whole time

oh my god he's like being schooled look at him dude i've never seen him this man

he's so mad

because what i did to him today it's like

you was expecting to get like a ton of views and i took all the views from you

i told no one to go watch a stream

he got super mad because he was like expecting to get like

hundred views from this

a he thought all of you guys wereing to go watch it on his stream right

and i anticipated i said don't go watch it on his stream watch it on my

right

i'm final get many people coming in here to argue right

however we're not like if we start if we start

a

not being able to exhibit any kind of

microphone discipline then i'm fucking kicking you because it's annoying hearing like ninety people scream at whatk we need to have we need like default to go on

default going on

i have to p can i p you guys i we to

yah sonso by all means like you can call yourself utopian socialist like we don't care but like don't say socialism to find down the markeit

yh i'm goinga go pete i'm going to leave this up i'll be right back the workers on a pencil factory

because that isn't what socialism ultimately is

ok if the is a real really quick go ahead

i'm going to the shop do anything do you want to get out of this householed

how

hello

i'm going to the shop

do you want

get out of this hell hole

i will i get a couch on coffee

sure

advise

i do not understand where you're going with this

i'm sorry

what a shame

now i'm dejstroying

okay

well someone was going to ask a question

yet she's going to ask a question like you you want me to define myself as as some kind of a

you want to whatp me tof i as a utopian

socialist and not a marxist like

i don't look in the end i don't really care about labels but as i said at the very beginning of this conversation with cash

my baseline my baseline

fundamental

i

like goal

right the the driving force for my political ideology

is increasing the the

the material conditions and

increasing the quality of life

of people

right

and i want you move on from there

and then wren't you a mark system if you care about material conditions

i i

i do

o ok we tank you every tanke you pilg you suns up

no yeah you guys are just you guys are just like

you throwing out jargon that doesn't like like

explain anything more

right

because i guess i guess

and this is this is where i hope you guys don't go has on me here right

but when our in our first conversation right where were he like fucking hulked out right

i said that i'm more like in

the

oriented person i care about

the the here and now and what we're going to do for people now

right i don't care i don't want to

right yeah i know i agree i think that you probably do have some kind

myth a swear to falking god if you can what you can't let me speak all right

so really quick

right

so if i am an ends oriented person i want to look at things that we can do it in order to increase people's

quality of life right

i think that

the means of production being owned by workers is a really good thing towards that end do you not agree with it why

why i do't think like that's the correct view to take on america though because the material conditions are not

i think the material conditions of america are analogous to a developing country if i'm being perfectly honest

we are a service industry economy no we are a service industry economy primarily

we have the big tech which is mostly p c m people but the bulk of our manufacturing is overseas

the bulk of our manufactur we we are that would be a post industrial evence that would be a post industrial so why a're talking about owning the means of production there are no what means of production we don't produce anything

is the a production do you just like factoryvolts on

yes the question the question is well first of all yes all come on but the question is you should be no worker ownership of any other kinds of

of anys there this is a business or anything you sink you're not a marxist right you not a marxist but ownership of the means of production is a marxist catchphrase

so obviously you're operating in

and i'm not going to throw a jargon here i'm to try my best to not throw a jargon but obviously you're operating in the context of

superstructure and substructure

the mode of production the relations of production

ok so what about the current modes of production do you think make it amenable to make make the the

your gold medal how have you been onsubb this whole time

i'm not watching fucking sans aoll anymore he's so bored

off

just don't want to watch

i don't wanta watch no sunsrew

does he so fun

furing

but let's begin this morning with the busy week ahead for president biden

as he prepares for the first overseas trip of his presidency and b ses monica alba is at the white house with more monica good morning

good morning willie bipartisan infrastructure negotiations have reached a critical juncture and will continue tomorrow after the white house rejected republicans latest counteroffer on the price tag but president biden will have to leave that behind this week as domest he's going to leave behind

domestic priorities take a backseeat to his first foreign trip in office

where president says in a new washington post op ed his goal is to restore some strained alliances and renew u s leadership on the international stage by rallying the world's democracies to confront threats from china and russia

the first stop the u k for a meeting with british pri

pm minister boris john anglos of the world unite

and the g seven summit in cornwall

once that wraps up the president and first lady will visit the queen at windsor castle

from there the president will head to brussels for meetings with leaders on the sidelines of the nato and e u summit

including turkey's ard to one

finally the pres is the fault talking i'll give it another chance the faults on

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what is point about your future ideas like there not material i keep on that's why i'm confused what you guys keep asking

we're asking you

how do you think socialism can be in the here and

you think it could be through dialectical material so quiets you can understand what your relations in america

or do you want to keep going off of what you're going to do what what

should do because that what you' that's what you're doing you're saying

we need to strive for an organization in which we can take the leadst boi and you know redistribute their pencil factories to the workers like doesn't really make sense you know

well like you have to understand socialism on a material basis

not on a future basis

like like sure you could inference from now but what do you ifer i get like right but again right in the in the current day

right

all i can do is try to move us towards something right so im doing do on twich you're not moving anybody towards anything

well that's what i'm doing right now because i'm a i'm a poor ho who's going who i'm in college

right and so i'm going to school you know i can get an education so that i can possibly worch in

right guyst being real with you

first of all get out of his fucking stream you moth the fuckers get out of his stream

stop watching him

second of all

i can tell you right now

this setup requires a lot of start up capital

i know that for a fact

like you' gotta get the ringwe you've gotta get a webcam that's pretty good and he does have a pretty good web comam

you got to get a gaming p

and he's got lights and shit i don't even have those kind of lights

and he's got a super good mike i don't even have a mike i just have a fucking yedy

i just had aa hetti so

you know he's clearly he put a lot of money into this

you know wherever he got that money from

for myself

where dod all the donations go

i haven't touched anything yet

i haven't touched anything yet

i haven't touched it anything yet

the you tube hasn't even come in the you tube donations have not even come in

youtube he donations

take a while

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i think i think you have a very important role because

for me like the other

buy yourself a ring light

thank you so much for the five but

dude i have a ring like

i have one right up here

that's why the dream looks so beautiful right now

see how beautiful the stdream looks

does i have a ring light

right up there

i have a replace

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why

how does the apps

now

go

then

right what's un

agenda or being able to accept it so that you're going to have this third party that's going to go up and kind of take take away from the system that's currently in place

or do you think this rhetorics faly

who's his rhetoric

who's who's rhetoric about who i haveve no idea what's

typical or typical tanky socialist bullshit do you think any of this would is actually makingk socialis there's a lot of different types of teki bullshit it's that's the racist girl

but then

no i don't i actually don't oh god i mean wichill sit some of not just lininism is the the ironly implementation of socialism in the real world

so

for me smashing the imperialist propaganda machine

is about

not

like bashing the ironly forms of socialism that have ever existed in the real world you know when we talk about tankees we don't mean white people in america who jost stop talking about abolish no one marx never use that word abolished so

abolishing abstract labor sounds like the most dumb shit i ever heard in my life

i want to just abolish it what does that even mean dude

it's stupid

com on

like that's that's a facty you guys

oh i can hear youbody it's fine you were shit i think i was tripping out because like i kept sying songs so right because i didn't want to interrupt someone samantha oh yeah ok i'm sorry ok and anyways w one second i samantha is speaking really quick

yes yes jesus chreat

so you can talk but you can't hear

know i think their connections is being really weird it's just attenuation settings so sthing

yah it's k it's his i think of made m cod you know know it's but' like an offshoot of dart but like so so what is what are these not white so like cool

so i'll repeat it again since he's here but like yes we understand that most of these like airport tankies are just like red lived white kids with rich parents in america that are just larping for funzies right but what

is the actual power that any of the smaller countries hold with actual socialists be able to spread this and get people all cot how yes they're smaller to name you so much african comrades let's get that mike in shallow

appreciate it man thank you so much

me how they'er like okay

go so america can help

america i am notfll these peopule

by not repeating cia talking points about

real socialism in the real world what was the what was the point about china though please

it it the stopped

ll right now

i just want to know someone mentioned smaller countries and we've kind of danced past that i'm going to bite now because i am not

in the u s or china and as far as europe goes like fucking nobody like nobody politically cares at my country outside of like a tourism industry so

socialism in my country

when you say smaller country

probably not the best example because you know still european still has some advanages but still small nonetheless

how do we go from there were like when you say smaller countries do shit

so like you know help socialist small countries

like

how does one i don't really wbuts smaller countries because smaller co just in

in and bys youk the west and the east so ok it's kind of you know north korea can only exist because of support from socialist china so it's kind of irrelevant to talk about individual tiny countries on the peripheral of separate polls it's more relevant i think to talk about the polls themselves

so

what country by the way

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hibur aright

nicholas rule so whoever mentioned this all country that to mak you se re dollars

so glad to see you in frareid rasing

keep it up

death to bret you

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thank you so much

sa of sosals contries were smaller

oh i'm so sorry i must have misheard then

ah either way as a socialist in a small country

like

basically

the reason i'm biding on this now

and the reason i'm asking is like

you know there's the whole superpower

focus thing between u s and china ok

and there's the whole you know only way only way to be a socialist is to be a marceills leninist which like

i don't know whether i disagree or i don't know whether i agree or disagree with that because how does one do a marcless leninist okay

outside of

th the whole thying is and like you know smashed the im like you know smashed the motterfucking like um button

uh sorry the propaganda machine

like to do marxis westerners need to be more concerned with understanding more so than doing especially in america

i think it has to be less a question of voluntarism

and more a question of

are you guys a doing

listen

i'm not going to police what people do i'm not going to police what you

bike

personally

what's the fucking point of this

i don't get

by personally don't get it like what is the point in this

i'm a keeper real i'm a keep richjus sucks it's first all

boring a is hell

and i don't get the point

right i don't get the point

why are you on why are you giving him so much attention and views and shit you know

it's like what i'm ad my platform exists to

give sansl more fucking engagement

no dude

i'm student i'm be beond to be real

if you're out here

chilling on san soy stream i don't fuk with you i don't care if you're saying you're for you'r

on my side what i don't really folk with you dude

you know

i don't really folk with you

literally i've i i'll fuck with you if you're on amoran stream go go on amoran stream

go on fucking on

go on pokee mainstream

and that's fine i won't even judge you

but what the fuck are you doing in this fucking ten viewer andy's stdream giving him all this attention and shit

you know

like i don't fucking get it dude go watch pokey main

what are you doing on fuckussans

i cannop

you

a two in veggies did great

the rest of this was just

you know just me giving son soy too much attention you know i get ya don't fuck and understand

like sultan's goning to go on later this week

wly shed anon with the third anon donated thirty dollars

thank you so much and i appreciate it so much do

thank you so much

dude you guys gota realize that

san soy is irrelevant

only reason

we're using him right now is because we're given some meat to the chat

but you all are going on and having like this respectful discussion and shit with him

and it's like

yeah

it's so boring

fucking boring dude

pokey was never asian what the fuck are you talking about pokey was never asian

no

pokemin was never asian but you know we are going to collab with pokemin it's three days

the twitch with that llab is common

the lab is common

you know

the lab is common

thank you has i was like why the yeah i don't know wh the folk were watching that shit you youall guys if you're jt let me tell you i don't folk with you if you're

chilmn and san sals

see it you know

got damn dude

like youre giving sunsl infrareds clouds

when you're doing this shit

you know

breen

the ring

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you guys

one last thing before we go 'cause i gotta go work out

better go to the gym

one last thing

fst thing

want you

make sure