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Alright guys, I need your help really quick with something.

For some reason my upload speed is um really it's like not even w past one uh megabit or whatever.

Um I don't know why that is.

I pay for a lot more upload speed and every time I I'm testing it, it's like uh really low.

So this is not fixed.

I don't think this is gonna be fixed.

But how do I how do I um

What am what am I supposed to do about that?

I I pay for really high upload speed, but I just tested it and my upload speed is less than one megabit.

Can it does anyone have any

You probably can't fucking hear this, right?

Yeah, the fuck is the point.

Probably can't even fucking hear this.

You can hear?

Alright.

Get a Wi-Fi?

I'm not fucking using Wi-Fi.

Shut the fuck up about Wi-Fi.

I have to update my driver.

Okay, what driver?

For what?

What driver for what?

My driver for what?

No, you can't hear me because you're tw twenty five

My Ethernet driver.

Uh, is that on my PC?

That's on my PC.

Yeah, we're really far behind, all right?

Super delayed.

T tell me, is that so uh is that something I do on my PC?

Or do I do that, um, for my box, my Wi-Fi box or whatever?

Device manager.

All right, hold on.

This might F the stream, but I don't really care.

I'm just gonna.

I just need to fix this.

Straight up.

I need to fucking fix this.

Um.

Alright.

Is the Ethernet

It's the Ethernet thing, right?

Update driver.

Are you sure that I Ethernet oh Ethernet controller?

Are you sure it's called the Ethernet controller?

I don't have Ethernet controller.

Are you sure that's what it's called?

Yeah, it'll cut the stream, but it's worth it.

Are you sure it's called Ethernet Controller?

There's no buffering right now?

Yeah, but it's gonna come back, alright?

Yeah, it's called Ethernet control.

I don't have Ethernet controller.

My router might need to update.

All right.

Well, to be clear, it's just my upload speed.

So my download speed is at the usual number that it's at, but my upload speed for some reason is like

30 times lower than what it should be, right?

Is it low on all devices?

Yes, actually.

Thank you for reminding me of that.

No, it's actually something that's uh low on all devices.

So I'm actually not sure if what you're saying is correct.

Um

I don't think what you're saying is correct because it's um

It's true on all of my devices, not just my computer.

Sometimes it's an issue with my ISP and not just my hardware.

Um.

Is your upload always that low?

No, that's the thing.

It shouldn't be.

Uh alright.

Alright.

Um.

Wow, this is a nightmare.

This is a really big nightmare.

All right.

Uh then it's your ISP.

All right.

Tested higher before.

Yeah, it shouldn't be doing this.

Uh okay, hold on.

Alright, uh I gotta do this some other time.

I can't log into the Wi-Fi router right now.

Um yeah, it's my Wi-Fi router though.

Contact my I ISP.

Well, I can't fucking do that today.

I'd have to do that tomorrow.

Something uh yeah, there's a bottleneck on my router.

It's so bizarre.

Something uh is uploading without your knowledge.

Yeah, tell me about it.

Tell me about it.

It's fucking feds, right?

Fucking feds, right?

They're like uploading all my information and they're uploading everything.

Why don't they fucking set up their own Wi-Fi network?

Yeah, no buffering at all?

Yeah, just wait though.

There's gonna be buffering.

I'm just it's guaranteed.

But yeah, something or someone is uploading a lot of information twenty four seven because this is always taking up my upload speed.

Is someone using your internet?

It's not that someone's using my internet, it's that feds, let's just be clear about what's going on, are constantly uploading information using my Wi-Fi.

I know that they're listening to me and they have everything tapped, but they're so fucking primitive that they're using my internet to do the upload to like, you know, constantly surveil me or whatever they're doing.

And they're using my internet, which means my live streams are getting fucked up because the feds are stealing my upload bandwidth.

Fuck.

Log out of your Netflix, you need to shut the fuck up.

You're an idiot who doesn't know anything about anything.

All right.

If you think that Netflix takes up your upload speed, you're a fucking moron.

Up dude, it literally is what it sounds like: upload speed.

So when I'm in the camera talking to you guys, I'm uploading myself to the world, right?

So.

Um they are uploading everything I'm saying.

They probably have fucking cameras in my toilet.

They probably fucking have everything and they're like constantly using my internet to upload it to Langley, to their CIA servers.

You broke fat fucks, use fucking Starlink.

Stop fucking using my internet.

To be fucking peeping Tom freaks, use Elon Musk's fucking star link and get the fuck off of my internet.

They've wasted a lot of time, guys.

A lot of our time.

They've wasted it, okay?

Because these fat losers in Langley at the CIA need to get a fucking life.

Get a fucking life, you losers.

Notice how I'm not telling them to stop spying on me because they can't help that.

I get that you can't help that.

I get that you have to.

It's your job.

But are you so broke that you have to use my fucking internet that I pay $200 a fucking month for to do it?

Using my upload speed?

They're primitive.

They're so primitive.

They're so fucking primitive.

Anyway, I wanted to watch Hassan versus Jank tonight.

Hopefully, we'll have time for that.

And I had many rants planned for tonight.

And I don't want to jinx it and have everything get screwed up.

Um.

But, you know, um

Wow, there's a lot of things I wanted to mention.

Guys, every single day I'm going to be on TikTok live for at least five minutes because I have three days left I need to do that to meet their requirement for hosting guests.

So if I ever feel like just going live on TikTok and like debating people, I can't do that yet.

They're making me go live on seven separate days.

So if you get a notification that I'm live on TikTok, you know, always check the Discord 'cause it's not necessarily um an actual event.

I could just be leaving it there and doing it for the minimum five minutes or whatever.

Well, okay, anyway.

Um, that out of the way, we're going to be watching Hassan versus Jank tonight.

There's a lot of interesting developments going on in the so-called progressive space.

Um

Alright, we're gonna do a thing that's like from uh Cyberpunk, where you know how they do interlinked?

I'm gonna say interlinked every five words and you guys are gonna respond interlinked to confirm the stream is still fine.

So let's test it right now, interlinked.

Alright, interlinked.

And I'm gonna do interlinked one, interlink two, just because they have to be different interlinks when you think about it to conf to really confirm it.

So I didn't think about that, but that's how we're gonna do it.

Anyway, stream on Telegram.

Um, Fan Du Zi Yu Zhu Yi.

Hello, brother.

I know that we have a lot of viewers from China.

You guys are watching in China.

I don't speak Chinese, but I want to communicate this to you.

I am broke and I have no money.

And I am a broke man.

And I I would love to stream everywhere.

Right?

But I need money and the CCP does not want to give me money.

Please go tell Xi Jinping to give me money.

And I will stream on Telegram every single day.

Every single day.

I need the CCP money.

I know and I don't take it personally.

I know they literally can't because it'll be a diplomatic incident and I mean, it would be extremely bad for their

for their whatever.

User appreciate it.

And uh I would get in trouble and they don't want me to get in trouble, right?

But

Uh at least like

Help me, you know, I I

I don't know.

Australistani appreciate it.

No, let me tell you guys something real though.

We have so many supporters in China.

You have no idea.

You have no idea.

We have so many supporters in China that at this point there are scammers impersonating us, selling shit to Chinese audiences.

On behalf of our name, ACP, and they're making money from it.

I don't know if you saw us.

That's like the tip of the iceberg of that whole industry.

We have gone so viral in China.

There's such an intense interest in us within China that I think, yes, the Chinese market is very big, lawn guy.

And I'm sure that if you know we sold things in China, there would be great potential in that.

Well, it's of no concern for you guys, but infrared has a channel in China.

Which has done w even before ACP, that did pretty well.

And I do pretty well in general in China.

Um, I get uploaded to Jackson's channel sometimes, and my videos do very, very well.

So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna

Blackpack, what's up?

I'm in talks with some people and what we're gonna do is um have infrared stuff.

for the channel, infrared in China.

And, you know, um

I think there there is many many opportunities there that'll make our lives easier in general.

Because at the end of the day, in the United States, right now at least,

Um I have a lot of things working against me.

A lot of things working against me.

Yellowstone, what's up?

I have a lot of things working against me here in the USA, right?

Um

Now Russia is a very interesting place.

And there is a lot of interest in us in Russia, but Russia is embroiled in its own conflict right now, which is between the Reds versus the Whites.

And one of the reasons I don't think we'll ever be able to penetrate Russian audiences.

Too much, too much.

I'm saying, is because we would at that point be intervening in this kind of conflict, right?

On behalf of the Reds.

Now, we are with the Reds.

Don't get me wrong.

We're with the Reds.

100%.

Anything the Reds ask me.

Yeah.

Um I'm a soldier, right?

I will support my Red comrades everywhere, and we're with the Reds.

But at this point, it would not be wise for them or for us

If we're like there stirring trouble for Russia, I mean, we don't want to cause a civil war.

We don't want to aggravate the flames of civil conflict within Russia.

We don't want to accelerate the social conflicts and cultural conflicts taking place there.

Amila, appreciate the 10.

So while we work very closely and we're collaborating with Red forces in Russia, we are not going to jump in the ring.

So, but China is very different, though, because China is openly a communist state.

And so, we're not really causing trouble in China by being very visible and very open.

We're not causing problems.

We're not causing trouble.

in the same way.

But there is a big red versus white conflict in Russia taking place discursively and um

Like I said, I don't know if I told you guys this.

I think I told you on TikTok maybe, but O Canonist, the Australian Chancellor, appreciate you.

He sent the clip of me when I was in the heat of the moment.

When I was talking about, you know, um, Rasputin beating the Tsarina's cheeks or whatever really bad taste thing that I said.

Um, but it was very American as well.

Remember that, and that was before I ever went to Russia, and um.

I w you know, what can I say?

He was attacking me on my own turf.

But I said that very out of context.

Um

Well, anyway, um, they started doing something wicked, which is to t to say that this was a religious issue and they're saints and and so on.

And ah, well, in any case, um, they got it semi-viral in Russian Telegram.

Um and

They were using it as ammunition to attack some of our allies over there and say this is who our allies associate with.

Well, um

Hm.

I was only speaking as an American who at that time had zero relations to Russia.

I know that the issue of the royal family is a sensitive and contentious and it's an emotional issue, I understand that there's emotions involved.

Um

The Tsarina was a chast woman.

Okay, I don't...

Listen, you're taking things far too literally, alright?

I don't have any interest in the private life of the Tsarina.

I don't have any interest or stake in that whatsoever.

What I said was basically cage match trash talking just to wound my enemy.

O'Canonist the Australian, because he was trying to tell me that I can't critique the Tsar.

And remind you that I had originally just said that I thought Nicholas was a weak leader and that he fumbled all of Russia.

He was a weak leader.

I said something very tame and he got offended.

He said that what I said is blasphemy and that all the clergy are whatever.

So I just doubled down.

Like, what?

You're going to tell me I can't criticize the Russian Tsar as an American living halfway across the world and the Tsar from 100 years ago, mind you?

Circuit flex.

So to me, it would be like.

you know, uh, talking about um a pharaoh from Egypt thousands of years ago.

But, you know, I I guess, you know, there's um

What pal pot?

What is willow

What is what what like what?

What are these bots that I'm seeing?

Like what?

Anyway, sorry, I'm getting distracted a lot by nonsense.

Um

The czar.

Uh yeah.

So but that's just because there's a red versus white conflict within Russia.

But you know the Bolsheviks did not

They didn't take it as far as I did verbally.

So, you know.

But here's the thing: I would like to also say something.

As an American, now, this is the hill I'm going to die on.

Okay.

People are upset about the bad language I used about the Romanov family, right?

Or the Tsar and his wife in particular.

Why would I have no reason to attack the kids?

I mean, it's nonsense.

Well, here's some food for thought.

And I'm going to say this.

Okay, you wanna do that, that's fine.

Okay, I'm an American Communist.

I was born and raised in this country.

And um

Well, Communism is all I know and all I care about, right?

And that Australian vermin was attacking our people.

He was attacking Lenin, he was attacking the Bolsheviks, he was attacking Stalin.

So

I say that I'm guilty of getting even.

That's it.

Just getting even.

Because that history is sacred to us as American communists.

Remember,

Um our leaders, some of our leaders, are buried in the Kremlin necropolis from the American Communist Party back then.

like Bill Haywood.

It's said that William Foster is buried in Moscow.

I don't know if that's true.

He did die in Moscow.

Uh John Reid is buried in the Kremlin Wall necropolis.

He wasn't uh necessarily

a leader, but Bill Haywood is, and so

This is part of our political tradition.

And we are not going to tolerate in our country, as long as we are here and we have a presence here, insults to our tradition.

So if you think that Nicholas is part of your tradition, that's fine.

We can have nuance about that.

But we're not going to tolerate disrespect about the communist tradition.

And we regard it as sacred.

We regard it as a sacred tradition.

And that's not a joke.

That's not something, you know.

So that's uh something I'd like to clarify, frankly.

Anyway, um

That conflict is happening in Russia, not on the front, but in Russia, in the interior of Russia, and it's a big problem.

It's a big problem that's going on.

Yeah, and I say to this day, you know, people need to understand something else.

I'm not like one of those people that.

justifies the killing of the Romanov family.

Plenty of leftists are doing that internationally.

I don't do that because the Bolsheviks were not responsible.

The Bolsheviks were not responsible for the killing of the Romanov family.

There's no evidence.

No evidence at all they were responsible for that.

Now, were they planning on executing Tsar Nicholas?

I don't know.

Uh maybe or maybe they were gonna d um uh deal with him like the Chinese dealt with the Emperor Puyi.

Uh who just got rehabilitated, so we don't know, we don't know what they were planning.

So

Let's be clear.

Let's be clear.

Uh I'm not the monster they're trying to paint me as.

Although I use very uh vulgar language.

No way.

No way, Volk No fucking way.

I refuse to believe that.

Oh, it's a rumor.

Okay, it's a rumor.

I don't.

See, that's interesting.

That's interesting.

That's very, very interesting.

So, hmm.

That's very interesting.

Well, I don't know what to say about that.

Uh

Ah.

Right.

Right, anyway.

Okay guys, Hassan Piker versus Jenk.

What do I say to my Russian dad?

He loves the Bolsheviks, Lenin, and Stalin.

He said they saved Russia.

He said that Tsar Nicholas was a whole leader and the Romanovs were murdered by Jews in a Jewish conspiracy.

That is very interesting paradox that is true for many Russians, actually, as far as how they feel.

That is true for how many Russians feel.

It's this dualism.

Well,.

I what do I say to him?

Well, I always was convinced by the argument that the Romanov dynasty from the beginning was the problem.

From the beginning since Peter the Great was not a Russian dynasty, but a kind of foreign German European occupation of Russia.

And that Ivan Grozny was the l like uh well, not necessarily the last, but he was a true Russian czar, and that the Romanov dynasty was a foreign usurper dynasty.

So I've always been convinced by that take on the issue.

So that's how I would respond.

Okay guys, um

Sleeper cell wants to go to bed.

You have work tomorrow.

Well,.

You think I wanna be the up this late?

You think I wanna we're all stuck now.

We're all stuck.

All right.

You think I wanna be this late?

And you know, you say, Haas, have mercy, have mercy on your viewers.

You know, they're not gonna be able to sleep.

And that's funny.

That's funny.

Because last time I checked, every single time I come on stream and talk about my insomnia, everyone here tells me melatonin.

So I'm going to tell you the same thing, sleeper cell.

You're going to have to stay and then have melatonin, and that'll magically fix all your problems.

Just have melatonin, just like how you guys tell me when I tell you about my I need to sleep, I can't sleep, I have insomnia, all these problems, you guys just say melatonin, melatonin.

Well, I'm going to tell you the same thing, melatonin.

Um look, I don't know what to tell you, all right?

I didn't want to go to go live this late, but I did.

Well

I did because I it's winter and uh

I need to wake up, how is melatonin gonna help with that?

You know you know, if you're at work, what do you need sleep for?

You know, like it's you're not you know, sometimes I try to relate to you guys, but then I'm like, wait, I go to the gym every single day doing back breaking lifting.

And like intense cardio, like really hard.

So I need sleep physically and mentally.

But if you're at work, you don't need more than one hour of sleep.

What is your boss going to do?

Fire you?

Just literally sleep at the cash register.

Sleep at no sleep December.

See look, when I can't sleep, it's really painful.

Because when I can't sleep, I sit here raging at the fact that I cannot write and I cannot read.

and I need to and I want to.

And then I physically still go to the gym even if I haven't slept.

And it's really, really hard, it's really, really painful, right?

If it wasn't for those two things, I would not care about sleeping.

I do blue collar work, I can't do that shit.

If I sleep on the job my dementia patient runs away and I catch a charge.

Um

What do you mean runs away like

Like you're trapping them, you're just catching them like Pokemon.

You're running around with a big net and catching dement dementia patients and you can't you can't let 'em go.

I work as a truck driver so I ne listen, the jokes I can't I can't even joke about this stuff anymore 'cause now it's gonna get serious.

Now I'm gonna be held liable for some crazy shit.

Well

Well, I don't know what to say, all right.

Uh truck driver.

Then he said, Oh no, you don't need sleep.

He was like, Sorry.

No, okay, go good sleep.

Go good sleep.

Traffic requires it.

Anyway, anyway, okay.

Jenk versus Hassan.

Ah, should I save that debate for tomorrow?

So many people are going to miss out.

I don't care.

I don't care.

A lot of people are here.

A lot of people are here.

We're going to do it tonight.

Alright.

Uh I'm just gonna go on YouTube, assuming that someone has uploaded it to YouTube.

If they haven't, we're fucked.

Jenk vs Hassan.

Wow three hours

Three hours Swamp Lives cool when you're an ogre.

Ah, what the hell?

Wow, this is trans rights and abortion.

And all right, you know, I don't know if we're going to watch all of this.

No, I'm going to spoil it for you.

We're not going to watch all of this.

If you don't know, Jenk is moving far to the left of Hassan Pecker, Piker.

And um

Hassan is going to the right.

Ah, a uh okay, I'll tell you about the AC thing thing later.

Swamp life's cool when you're an over.

Swamp life's wild when you're an ogre.

All right.

Alright.

This is what we're here to see and uh

Big political realignment going on, and it's being reflected by Bernie Sanders as well, not just Hassan.

Let's see what comes of this.

By the way, there's something I want to say.

Clip this if you can clip it.

If there's things you want to clip, I would, you know, I can't get over how many people call Jackson Hinkle a grifter, but not Hassan Piker, a guy who has never faced any systemic adversity whatsoever.

Jackson is banned everywhere except Elon Musk's Twitter or X.

And by the way, Hassan's not banned from X either because it's open for everyone now, basically.

There's free speech.

So that's that, but that's the only reason he's not banned.

You know, if it was the old Twitter, he would have been banned from that as well.

So Jackson's banned everywhere.

He's banned from PayPal.

Um there's been attempts on his life.

Uh he's relentlessly smeared by the media.

Meanwhile, Hassan Piker is allowed to rise to the top of political streaming not just streaming, but political streaming on Twitch.

He faces no systemic adversity whatsoever, and the media never does hit pieces on him.

Fox News is not even a hit piece, to be let's mean, let's be honest, it's not a hit piece, because only boomers watch Fox News and take it seriously.

So it doesn't even do him any damage.

So he faces zero systemic adversity or pushback.

He's not deplatformed from anywhere.

Nothing is done to engage in character assassinations against him or whatever.

And the only people that do that are not like systemic actors, but like resentful and bitter and angry, aggrieved other live streamers who are sick of him as a gatekeeper.

Uh yeah, Donnie O'Sullivan just platformed this on and is like you know, ma making him look really good and and uh respectable and worth taking seriously and articulate and so on and so on.

So

I don't understand this.

Why is there such a willingness to attack Jackson?

And not Hassan.

Even the people that aren't directly Hassan Piker fans will never dare criticize Hassan in the same way they do Jackson.

But why is Hassan Piker a genuine and sincere actor, but Jackson isn't?

I mean, I don't understand it.

Like Hassan has never faced any pushback at all by the system.

And you think that Jackson's backed by the Feds and not Hassan?

Can you rise to the top of political streaming on Twitch and not somehow be considered an asset for the Feds or the system?

Like, if Hassan Piker was a threat to the bourgeoisie, a threat to the system.

Why don't they de-platform him?

And don't tell me they don't have a pretext for doing it because they especially have one now where even Zionist advertisers are like trying to hurt Twitch's ad revenue and still nothing.

I'm not saying I want him to be banned.

You're misreading me if that's what you're taking away from this.

It's not that I want him to be banned.

It's that I think it's hypocritical for people to call Jackson Hinkle a grifter while giving Hassan Piker a free pass and not even being suspicious at all in any capacity as far as like how much he doesn't face any systemic adversity at all.

Like that's cause for suspicion at least.

If not on his part, then on the part of

You know

Clearly the system either doesn't see him as a threat or sees him as an asset.

And I don't think that's an incredibly controversial thing to say.

Right?

Nine times out of ten when I see people attack Jackson as a grifter, they tend to be Hassan Piker fans.

How is Hassan how is Jackson a grifter but not Hassan Piker who is unwilling to say anything that's actually controversial among this generation?

Again, you heard what I just said for this generation.

Yes, the things that he says are controversial to boomers, but they're not controversial for our generation.

And they've only recently become controversial, by the way, because of the anti-woke backlash, which happened, let's say, 2022, starting 2022 or 2023.

So who's the real grifter here, you know?

Um

He is clearly grifting and pandering.

I look, I mean, he makes like thirty times more money than Jackson.

Makes like thirty times as much as Jackson does.

He owns and lives in a three million dollar mansion.

How is Jackson the grifter and not Hassan?

you know?

When you point this out, his fans will be like, huh, skill issue.

It's like, okay, but didn't you just call Jackson a grifter?

Then it's a skill issue for you, motherfucker, you fucking idiot.

Yeah, anyway, um

No, that's something that just pisses me off straight up.

It's like there is a Hassan Hassan Piker is the influencer of all of the leftists who hate us.

And that's just the truth.

The thing that unites all the leftists that hate us because look, the Destiny people, I don't I w I don't even really call them leftists anymore.

All of the pro-Ukraine leftists are not really leftists at all at this point.

They're like directly far right.

And I think Hassan and his fanbase are right wing, but they're still like leftist in the sense of how their ideology is flavored.

Like they're like DSA types, right?

But they're all just followers of the Twitch streamer Hassan Piker.

I can't tell you how many DSA people try to scoff at us and be like, oh, you guys are just followers of a Twitch streamer.

It's like, I'm banned from Twitch.

Meanwhile, if this guy didn't exist or stopped streaming for one month, there would be no DSA.

It would collapse and dissolve.

Hassan Piker is the thought leader.

Of all American leftists, and they're he's just not he's just the one guy none of them will critique or call out or go against.

Um

You know, they are no more radical than he is as far as whatever like views they express on anything.

And it's just such a corrupt thing that they just all take that for granted.

Like, oh, no way, I'm not gonna go against Hassan.

I'm not gonna go against Hassan Piker and his community 'cause you're a coward.

Because you're a coward pretending to be like some principled leftist or something when you're clearly just uh scared of being ostracized socially and you know.

He's he's uh branded himself to Palestine.

Yeah, but you know the difference between Jackson and Hassan?

Um Jackson has always been a one state Palestine, pro Palestine guy, anti Zionist.

Whereas before October seventh, Hassan Piker believed in the two state solution.

So that's the difference actually.

Jackson was never a Zionist.

I'm talking like never, never, never a Zionist, right?

Even in that clip taken out of context where Jackson is like, you know, he's glad that Net and Yahoo won rather than the other guy because it would better accelerate the demise of Israel and US hegemony.

Which is what Nasrallah and all the other resistance people say said, by the way.

Um Jack that doesn't mean he's like a Zionist.

It's the opposite.

He's saying that it would accelerate the destruction of Israel.

Nasrallah said the same thing.

Um it would help alienate Israel from the entire world.

Um anyway, Jackson was never a Zionist, but Hassan Piker was.

It's that simple.

And you know, you really wanna

Press things, I mean like ask Hassan about Syria.

Yeah.

When did Nasrullah say this?

Uh in one of his speeches before the uh about the uh elections in Israel.

That's not what he said, though.

Let's be real.

Yes, it is.

Watch the full clip.

That's the problem.

People don't watch the full clip, they don't watch the full clip.

The full clip not not the full clip, the full segment.

They're just watching that clip taken out of context.

They're not contextualizing it.

They're not watching the entire thing that he w he was actually saying.

I mean, like, I feel I'm pretty sure it was like 45 seconds after he said that that he's like, yeah, this will help accelerate the demise of Israel.

Like in the same damn video, you know, it's crazy.

But you believe these feds who are astroturfing lies.

And it's like, let's be clear, all right?

If there's a fed actor on Twitter, the fed actor is not going to be the person universally identified as a fed.

Like, the person who's a fed is not the guy who's like being labeled and called a fed in all these viral tweets that are getting millions of impressions and tens of thousands of likes.

And it's like, oh, yeah, we like, you fucking idiot.

You believe in like the organic hashtag thing?

Like, you believe, like, oh, we're all cool friends on Twitter and we're like thousands of organically, it's like the Arab Spring and we're doing hashtag Jackson's a fed and that's so or no, that's exactly what feds are manipulating.

The real feds are the ones getting under the radar and the genuine actors are people like Jackson getting fed jacketed.

No, Twitter's not like the Arab Spring and it's like organic or some shit and it's like a real organ.

No, it's not.

It's all fucking fake and manipulated.

It's so fucking crazy how people are too stupid to understand that.

Like, it's the epitome of Hassan Piker's audience.

Buggers, we're all the Hassan Piker fans.

We're doing the emotes.

Yeah, the system, we're this is all organic.

This is all just the power of the people on the internet.

They have no fucking idea how controlled everything is, which makes it a hundred percent certain that Hassan Piker is favored and boosted by feds.

Like they don't understand how everything's manipulated.

They genuinely think there's like a organic Tahrir Square Arab Spring thing going on where like everybody's just organically sharing their real authentic opinions and those are the things becoming popular and viral.

No, the discourse, the discourse is exactly...

Think about it.

You think the CIA isn't controlling the discourse?

The discourse right now is saying that Jackson's a Fed.

That's the discourse.

I'm not talking about raw numbers.

Raw numbers, Jackson smokes all these people out of the water.

I'm talking about the people get guys clip this.

Clip this.

What people take out of content, what people get backwards in terms of how they understand how feds manipulate the internet is they tend to think that discourse is something full of genuine actors and it's all organic.

And the likes and impressions, that's where the manipulations by the CIA and the feds come in.

So they look at a guy like Jackson, who discourse-wise is not doing very well among the American leftists or whatever, but numbers-wise, and fame-wise, and impressions-wise, does very well.

And they look at a guy like Hassan Piker, where the opposite is true.

Discursively, he's in a very good position, but in terms of raw engagement, he's not.

And like, okay, Hassan's genuine because it's human.

He's talking to me, and there's discourse going on.

And Jackson is fake and inauthentic.

He's just like doing engagement bait and whatever, and it's inauthentic, right?

So these idiots think that, like, oh, Jackson's a Fed and Hassan's the genuine actor.

And it shows you how much they don't understand how the CIA actually operates, who created the internet, by the way.

The CIA created the internet, literally.

I'm not even going to get into it.

It's exactly discourse that they manipulate.

It's not raw engagement that is the most manipulated.

It's the discourse that's manipulated.

That's where psychological warfare is happening.

And that's where they are the most involved.

What narratives are becoming popular?

What reputations people have?

That's what they control.

And if you don't think those are the things they're controlling to a T, you are a fucking idiot.

You're a naive idiot.

The guy, Hassan Piker, with a pristine reputation, with no problems whatsoever in discourse and no problems with reputation at all.

And Jackson, where it's the opposite.

You think that's organic?

You think that's authentic?

It's not.

I'm sorry to tell you, but no, this is not, again, it's not the Arab Spring where it's a grassroots opinions are just rising to the surface.

That's not how it works.

It doesn't work like that.

You have no idea how heavily manipulated discourse is.

If discourse isn't heavily manipulated, look up Philip Cross on Wikipedia.

Look up Philip Cross on Wikipedia.

Okay?

It's precisely reputation, information, and discourse that's manipulated, not the numbers.

People who are stupid, they think they're so stupid, they don't understand.

They're like, oh my God.

Oh, this guy, Jackson, he's such a sleazeball.

He's getting millions of impressions, but he has such a bad reputation.

That means he's inauthentic.

Has it ever occurred to you that he has a bad reputation?

for in for for manipulated reasons.

Like that's not an organic thing, that there was a methodical campaign that and that his reputation was engineered to be the way it is.

Do you actually think the CIA and these feds and MI six just sit back and allow people's reputations to stay intact and allow people's character to not be attacked, and they just allow people to have a discursive upper ar um upper um advantage or whatever?

Uh no, they don't.

They understand that's everything.

As a guy who's been in the game for four years now, and also a very quick learner.

Fucking trust me when I tell you the discourse is manipulated.

Because I literally wage war with these feds.

And it's like chess at this point.

It's like 4D chess.

And I know they're playing because their responses are predictable.

And how we play is calculated to anticipate those things.

And it's like at this point, we know who we're playing with.

We know who we're playing chess with, you know?

And it's all discourse.

It's a discourse war.

You guys, you need to understand something.

The discourse war is not superficial.

Like, there's always a double meaning behind everything, right?

And it's about fighting the war for the discourse, fighting the psychological war.

And it's an extremely intentional, methodical thing.

And yes, our enemies are fighting that war.

And yes, they are not just bitter, crazy, deranged schizophrenics in someone's basement.

It's MI6 and CIA, and that much we have confirmed.

And don't fucking ask me how we know that.

Please don't fucking ask me how we have it confirmed.

We have it confirmed.

Just let me we have it confirmed, okay?

Because uh

Well, how do I how do I put this?

The people that would know

There's other people that would know about this who are

Not playing on the blue team.

Okay?

Um

And they tell us and they know.

You know, and they know.

And they actually fucking know.

So yes, it's been confirmed that these kind of narrative wars are happening.

And the CIA and the MI6 are the ones that we're fighting and that we're playing 4D chess with all the fucking time.

Mossad?

Uh

That is true, but the Mossad is...

See, here's another thing.

Believe me or don't believe me.

Mossad is effective when it comes to like assassinations and war.

When it comes to the discourse stuff, nobody comes close to MI6.

Nobody fucking comes close.

Mossad, when Mossad has their hands on something, it's so fucking obvious.

Like, what Mossad boosts are like the Drew Pavloo tweets.

That's what Mossad boosts.

What Mossad boosts also were the tweets that were like, oh, Jackson is.

Not truly pro-Palestinian.

He's just a grifter doing it for money.

That was also confirmed Mossad stuff.

But the more.

The stuff about like fascism and white supremacy and all that kind of stuff has MI6 all over it.

That's MI6.

That Mossad is very like sloppy and like unsophisticated when it comes to discourse war shit.

But MI6 are masters of manipulation.

You have to give them that.

And then this surprised me at first, but then I just fucking thought about it.

It's like, how did this small shitty island, Britain, conquer the world?

How did they do it?

With their navy?

Well, that was only part of it.

With their superior fighting tactics?

Not really.

How did they do it?

Well, it was all through psychological warfare.

And don't believe me, study history.

But the British have been masters of psychological warfare for centuries and centuries.

Just masters of lies, manipulation, deceit.

Complete.

You have to give them that.

They're masters at it.

You know?

They very masterfully know how to cultivate conflicts.

in the discourse.

What are the things that make people divide and unite?

And how do you manage reputations and perceptions and things like that?

That is, yeah, the Mossad is like Indian New Delhi.

That's the level of sophistication they're on.

It's the MI6.

that are masters of discursive manipulation.

So guys, think about a question.

Why is it that the British are like why are these where do these alternative socialisms and communisms come from?

Well, I'll tell you where they come from.

The fucking British intelligence.

And it was just the same old divide and conquer tactic.

They had an enemy, the Bolsheviks, and the Bolsheviks were communists.

And they really, really were big on the communism thing.

So how do you cause problems at that level of the communist ideology?

You start, you know, George Orwell and the anarchists and the Bread Tube and the Trotskyists.

And that's how they do it.

It's not because they care about it.

It's not because they're committed to it.

It's just they do the same thing in Islam.

They do the same thing in Africa with the different tribes in Africa, right?

And they did the same thing in India, they do the same thing all around the world, it's divide and conquer, it's what they invented, you know?

Um

So

Uh

So you need to understand this.

I mean uh Mossad are like very proficient.

Uh and they have a very big fixation on Dugan.

Let me tell you guys something.

Um

I don't know if I'm allowed to say this.

Uh fuck it, it's gotta be public info at this point.

'Kay.

Um

One of our comrades in Russia, Zachar Prilepin, I don't even know if you know this, there was an assassination attempt on his life I think it was one year ago.

And I actually saw where the bombing happened.

Um myself, I wi I went to the site of the bombing.

And

See, that was committed by uh some

some uh Ukrainian hired guy or whatever who hid in the woods

Or something for weeks, weeks, waiting for the right opportunity.

Attempt on his life through a car bomb.

Through a car bomb, it's through a car bomb.

Well, get this.

That turned out to be an act carried out with the assistance of guess who.

Am I even gonna say?

Just I'll just say guess who.

That was the the the the intel and the whatever the

The um coordination was handled by

Not Mossade.

No, not Mossad.

Yeah, you guys got it.

MI6.

So they are very interested in the Russian and and breaking Russian morale.

And that's why they take such a keen interest in Dugan and Preleppin.

They take such a keen interest in these people because they represent Russian morale and that's what they're trying to find any kind of way to crush and destroy.

Uh 'cause these are the tactics, this is how they operate.

Anyway, um, no, no, I just this is the rant I wanted to go on.

Uh, it's just infuriating how stupid people are.

They don't understand how any of how the internet works.

Discourse is uh not authentic.

It's a hundred percent engineered.

And it's not just feds, by the way.

The top streamers know how to manipulate this shit.

It's just like high school.

Think about high school where there's rumor-mongering and oh, we have to do this to hurt their social status or whatever.

It's like these laws apply to the internet and to social media and influencers.

And they also happen to be if they can be manipulated by fucking Keemstar, then they are being manipulated by C don't even take my word for it.

Just use the I know for certain, but don't take my word for it.

Keemstar does this.

So if Keemstar can fucking do it, so can the CIA and the MI6.

And if you think you're so smart.

That you couldn't possibly be manipulated into having perceptions that are untrue but play into the interests of these intelligence agencies, you are underestimating your own stupidity.

You're not as smart as you think you are.

You're like, oh, I'm not one of those Indian bots that like Jackson's tweets.

I'm a Hassan Piker fan who's plugged into the Hassan discourse.

I'm truly an independent thinker.

And it's like, you are the biggest sheep there is.

The guy liking Jackson's tweet is a fucking taxi driver in New York.

Or in Yemen, who fucking believes in UFOs in Antarctica or something.

That's actually an independent thinker.

Okay, that guy is an independent thinker.

You are the sheep.

The guy liking and engaging with Jackson's tweets.

That guy literally has been to Hollow Earth, right?

You who are a Hassan Piker fan, who are plugged into the discourse and the trendy dis you're the fucking mental slave who's being manipulated artificially, not him.

That guy is beyond any manipulation.

That guy literally believes like Obama Obama's a robot or something.

There's nothing you could do to manipulate him into believing anything.

He doesn't live in your reality anymore.

He's purely independent in terms of his thoughts.

That's the Arab OG TikTok videos where they're circling shit in red and there's always the red circles.

And yeah, you don't even know what you're dealing with.

All right, you're the fucking sheep, not Jackson's, not Jackson's people, you.

Am I ready?

Am I ready?

Shakey Gurga is here in the building.

It's Janksgiving time, baby.

It's Janksgiving time.

Bunk is here.

Okay, what is that?

I got a Thanksgiving present for you.

You do?

Okay.

Oh my god.

How much do you love this?

I know you're a big fan of Hunter Biden.

I know.

This is like this reminds me of one of the one of the first.

Alright, since every time we tell jokes, they want to take it seriously.

Let's cut into their jokes and say, start with, isn't Hunter Biden a pedophile?

Isn't he like a pedophile?

Didn't he actually like assault children in those uh laptop leaks?

Wasn't there like pretty damning evidence?

Not necessarily full proof, but evidence?

That Hunter Biden was a peddle?

So how why is it okay to be ironically a Hunter Biden fan?

You know?

This is well, no, no, it's fine.

I like it.

Did you guys make this?

Is it your merit?

Yes, you made it free to hunter.

Come on, that's pretty good.

No, it's sick.

Like, Zerka has told a lot of bad jokes.

I don't stand by those jokes, but he's not actually a pedo.

But Hunter Biden actually is a pedo, right?

So, why is Hassan allowed to, like, ironically be a fan of.

A fucking pedophile.

Like an actual pedophile.

You know who came up with that idea?

Who?

I did.

I love that.

Okay.

So, anyways, put that aside.

Who do you think is?

Isn't he just a corrupt crackhead?

Um.

No, he's pretty sure he's a pedo.

I'm pretty sure there's things that have come out from that laptop that's like pedo shit, frankly.

Pardon Hunter.

No one, Joe or Donald?

I don't, I don't know.

I feel like Joe could possibly do it, but he respects norms and civility too much almost in his like weird twisted way.

But also his mental faculties have declined dramatically over the years.

So maybe he could still pull through.

I don't think Trump would do it, though.

I think Trump would do it.

But I think before, I think Joe's going to do it.

Because Papa Joe's in a no-given time in his life.

Yeah.

So he's like, oh, landmines for everyone.

You know, let's bomb Russia with American missiles.

Yeah.

So I think he's at the point where he's like, yeah, my kid, yeah, I'm free.

I'm shut the f ⁇ up.

This was a fun moment as well.

You had this.

We'll show your highlight reel here.

Shakey Gurga gets into a fight with Alan Lickman.

This was, the people love this shit.

Okay.

I love this shit as well.

I've made fun of Alan Lickman before because a lot of liberals will come into my didn't Jake come to America first and is like, I am European.

I am enlightened.

Oh man, I chat and be like, but the 13 keys, like, he knows how to turn him.

I'm like, he made it up.

Like, you can't, like, there is no hard science here.

It's crazy how psychology works.

Like, growing up, I looked white as fuck growing up.

Okay.

Like, when I was a child, when I was a kid, all right, I looked very white, frankly, as a child.

I looked white.

But when I was like a child, like 9, 10 years old, I was like a fucking religious fundamentalist.

I was like a religious fundamentalist.

I was ready to fucking burn down the infidels.

I was hardcore, right?

I wouldn't even eat chicken nuggets from McDonald's.

'Cause they're not hello.

Like not just not eating pork, you gotta eat the halal meat.

Which is a standard practice for most Muslims or not most, but a lot of Muslims.

But

you know, oh, I'm off the screen.

Um

Mm-hmm.

Uh yeah.

Um

Like

But yeah, here you don't know who attacked me personally.

You're so deluded.

I've only been a professor for 51 years.

What are you guys arguing about in the chat?

I need to drop this topic, whatever it is.

I don't even know what it is.

Um I have not really been keeping up with Zirka at all on anything for a very long time, so I it's not relevant, whatever you're talking about.

All right, just drop it.

I've never been able to finish a bunch of people.

How many books have you published?

No, because you're personally attacking me again.

Say whatever you want, but I'm not going to stay in front of you.

Brother, you got it wrong.

Say you were preposterously and stupidly wrong.

So, okay, alright.

Can I just finish a guy?

Ever on this show?

No, not if you're personally attacking.

I admitted I was wrong.

I don't need you to call me stupid.

Okay.

I'll just say it's a good idea.

I taught you manners.

God, I just peers, man.

He just.

Anyway, I'm not going to get into it.

I know he's your best bud.

He's your best bud.

Bro, every time I look at Jenk, I'm just thinking of that one guy.

Skibbity dub, dub, dump, dub, dub.

Yes, yes, yes.

Grow a fucking beard, man.

You Turks, stop shaving.

Grow beards.

You don't look European at all.

You look like the skippity guy.

I don't care what At the Turk said, grow beards, grow moustaches, facial hair.

You're not built for the European way.

Y'all look silly as fuck.

Bro, if Jenk grew a beard, he would look like a damn warlord.

He would look like.

He would look like a Janissary or something.

Right?

Sleeper cell, what's up?

But they're trying to like be Europeans so badly that it's making them look like.

Silly, you know.

Breed, skibbity dop, dub, dub, dub, dub, yes, yes, yes, skibbity dip, skibbity dop.

Oh no damn, come on.

We're just one right now.

Hey, Alan, you just if he grew a beard, he'd look like literally an imam.

He'd look like if Turks started growing beards again, they would be the leaders of all Islam in the whole world.

Everyone would respect them.

Serve a tall glass of shut up juice.

They would all look like warriors and conquerors.

So, can you just shut up?

But not Hassan Piker.

Hassan Piker just looks like a.

San Piker uh doesn't look Turkish at all.

He looks like uh Jank

I'm sorry.

Sorry.

Jank looks Turkish, not Hassan.

Hassan looks like uh I'm just I'm just laughing at his face.

All right, sir.

Yes, this is what.

This is Turkish, all right?

Hassan does not look Turkish at all.

Hassan looks like uh.

What does he look like?

He looks like he's um.

Hassan looks like Syrian or something.

Jenga looks like...

Jenk Jenk definitely uh he looks like the ten percent uh Central Asian part of of the Turkish DNA.

Cook him!

Cook him!

Not a bad thing, by the way.

Not a bad thing.

Cook him!

Cook his ass!

Dude, I love I love your God.

He doesn't look Syrian?

Yeah, he does.

He looks Syrian.

What are you talking about?

He doesn't look Syrian.

Yes, he does.

Hassan looks Syrian.

You have not seen the Syrian diaspora.

He looks like the Syrian diaspora who are like all from the ruling class that hate Assad.

That's what Hassan looks like.

Commentary is Hassan looks Greek.

Uh, yeah, I could see that, but that's that's what Syrians look like.

Excellent.

You said tall glass of shut up juice.

You are the brownest white man on the planet, by the way.

Like, what you are others have charged that, yeah.

You, it's just so funny that you're you deserve a tall glass of shut-up juice is the most like, listen, pal, not the time bucko ass take that you could have here.

You know why?

Because I'm American, yeah.

You just deployed that shit, dude.

You did, you deployed it so hard for a second, and it worked.

You shut up.

Well, that's what the tall glass of shut up juice is for.

Yeah, and let someone who knows what they're doing.

You're so right.

So I will not sit here and say for personal attacks for blasphemy against me.

You don't need to do that.

You don't blasphemy against you.

Whatever you are, blasphemy.

What a insane thing to say about your demonstrably failed political method.

Where's the key when you jiggle the keys?

That's later.

You know, that actually didn't make the viral clip, which is really funny because I thought that might do it.

Do you have it?

Oh, yeah, here it is.

Yeah, they pulled it out.

Real previously worked as pragmatic decision-making on whether or not the White House party has governed well enough.

And then my analysis is based upon what's changed, what's shattered.

Yes, yes, yes.

The pattern of 160 years of history.

So I have a base for my full band to you.

God, Piers is such a piece of shit.

I mean, Biden said that that was the real reason why she not only picked.

I'll do one, I'll take it one step further.

It's not even Kamala Harris that frustrates.

He looks a ziri.

I could see that me about that.

It's the fact that Biden said that about Katanji Brown Jackson, who literally is more deserving of a Supreme Court appointment than most of the other Supreme Court justices.

And he still the bag up by turning around and being like, oh, yeah, we're picking.

I'm picking a black woman, Jack.

And it was nutty because, like, that's the first time we've had a public defender sit on the top court.

Like, that was not a DEI hire in the way that conservatives mention it.

So, do you know that I'm against affirmative action?

I've always been against affirmative action.

And wait, really?

Yes, yes, yes.

Yeah.

And the reason I did not know that.

Yeah.

The reason is because Katanji Brown Jackson is an excellent Supreme Court justice who's perfectly qualified.

So is Sonia Sotomayor.

But the minute that any minority, by the way, including us, gets any position of power, respect, etc., what does everybody do?

I just got it because they're black.

They just got it because Jank is the definition of what Tariq Nasheed would say is a tether.

He's a foreigner.

He's a brown foreigner who's coming here trying to speak on black people's business, acting like he's one of them.

And he's not.

And Tariq needs to give him that wake up call.

You think that's just the right way to say that?

Like people like us, including us, Tariq, hold up.

Tariq's got something to say about that.

What do you mean, one of us?

But it isn't.

No, no, no, no.

Everyone's hands.

No, I understand where you're coming from.

I respectfully disagree.

I think that that is like ultimately caving into capitulating to right-wing framing on the issue.

The affirmative action conversation has always been a band-aid solution to like significantly more consequential racial dynamics in this country that have never been addressed at all.

And I've always looked at things from a class position regardless.

And like the real affirmative action is legacy admission.

100%.

Like we even have a petition on TYT.com to end legacy petitions because if you're against affirmative action.

Now, where are you from, sir?

What the hell are you talking about?

What do you mean, where am I from?

Oh, Tariq.

That's what Tariq says.

You have to be against affirmative action for super rich dudes whose dad went to Princeton or gave Princeton a million dollars.

Okay.

Jenny Bush going to Yale.

Yeah, that's totally bullish.

And by the way, you know who else was an affirmative action pick?

Joe Biden.

Because Obama picked him because he was an old white guy.

You know that with absolutely.

That's not affirmative action.

That's just optic management.

Because in his final list, this is optics control.

He had a big list of in the final list.

I don't have a problem with optics control at all.

Are you fucking kidding?

We fill the whole party with white people just to do optics control so no one knows that we're a Tartarian conspiracy.

You know what I am?

You know what I am?

I'm a hotep, but about Turks.

We're the real Turks, and these are fake Turks.

These are just Greeks.

We're the real Turks.

The real Turks are Tartarians from Central Asia.

Putin is a real Turk.

We're the real Turks.

Tartarians are real.

Tamerlang, that's the real Turks.

These are fakes.

And I'm a real Turk.

These are fake Turks.

And I'm the real Turk.

We're taking it from them, just like how Hoteps took.

A lot of things.

And actually, the Tartarians were black.

So it all comes full circle anyway, the Tartarians were black.

And um because do you know the definition of black?

The definition of black

Is

to be completely excluded fundamentally and fully.

From so-called civilized Europe.

And that, therefore, Genghis Khan is the true.

is black, basically.

And um this is great wisdom.

It was only old white men because they knew they had to balance the ticket because he was a young African-American.

So let's not pretend that they didn't pick on demographic information.

Obama did, and so did Biden.

Yeah, but also it doesn't work in that direction, regardless, because, like, obviously, the underlying sentiment is that, like, uh, you know, affirmative action is not the reason why people think black people are undeserving of their position in society.

They already thought that, and now they're using affirmative action to you know continue to compound on that organization.

And I hate that it compounds because it's not true.

I just, I'm, I'm more like, uh, the process itself in terms of like uh affirmative action in general, albeit is still, like I said, uh, not a good solution to systemic racism and inequality that persists and black people being consistent with.

Have you guys ever heard my take about um

race in America and that the only race in America are black Americans, specifically foundationally black Americans.

That is the only race in America.

You want to know why that is?

That is the only race in America.

I'll tell you why.

Because the definition of a race is.

What a people are

Um

How they reproduce relationships and cultures and languages and so on and so on, without any mediation from state institutions.

So what remains of a people when they have been completely deprived of any institutional mediation?

And that is what a race is.

That is what it means for people to be racialized.

And

Uh

Once you understand that, it makes a lot of sense.

The people who were enslaved

And were never given any land, had never had any institutional existence in the United States, but nonetheless remained a people who still had to go about having an existence, right?

A real existence.

And that and their existence is regarded as more real, even to even to white people, more real and more authentic because it's fundamentally outside and not mediated by institutions.

The Romani fit that description, too.

You know what, Hamza, that is an incredibly good counter-argument.

And I have to think of something.

No, no, no.

Here's why that's not true, Hamza.

The reason it's not true is because the Romani were never nonetheless attached to the country in the way that black people were because they weren't a slave class.

They weren't all like slaves.

But foundational black Americans

Are part of American history primarily through the importation of slavery and the Atlantic slave trade.

So that's the main difference.

But you know, you you got me thinking about

critically thinking more.

So

That was a good point to bring up.

But I completely sparred.

I completely blocked it and counterattacked.

Third in American society even now.

Even when I recognize that, it's still not like, you know, anything that moves the needle in an appropriate direction is fine.

Like, I don't have a, I don't have an issue with it, especially if it's like, for example, making colleges more diverse in general.

That's a good thing.

Perry.

Yeah, parried it.

That's a bad thing at all.

Like, these are some of my most rad lip takes, I would say.

But I do think that that actually makes it a better learning.

Do you guys know the theory that Nordic people are so white that they have become black?

I'm not going to elaborate.

Learning environment in general.

For the first time, you're actually encountering and developing interpersonal relationships with Norwegian and Swedish people are not white.

They're black.

People that you otherwise never would have.

And I think that makes it for a better learning environment.

So two things about that.

You know, look, as you were talking, I came up with an analogy here.

Let's see how it goes.

I view affirmative action as kind of a counterproductive band-aid on a wound.

So the right wing says the wound doesn't exist.

No, I think the wound does exist.

I just don't think that the band-aid is the right solution.

Because what the band-aid is doing is covering up the wound and not letting it breathe and not letting it heal.

You're a bit of an accelerationist.

Okay.

So in that regard.

Well, it's a very different.

You know what I hate about Hassan?

Every time somebody's just saying some shit, he has to prescribe an ideology to it.

Even in a normie conversation, someone will be like, you could be having chicken nuggets from McDonald's and a bitch will be like, you know.

I just want a 20-piece chicken nugget.

And Hassan, and I don't want to share it with anyone.

And Hassan will be like, oh, that's so Paul Pot of you.

That's so like he'll be like oh

That's so freaking uh you know that's so Enver Hoja pilled of you.

You don't wanna share your chick and it's like Jesus Christ, dude.

He's always looking for an in.

He's always looking for an in to like make these memes he found online relevant, political.

His so-called political knowledge.

No, but I'm not trying to accelerate racism.

I'm trying to end racism.

That's what pure Marxist Leninist says about the welfare state.

Okay.

You see what I'm saying?

You see what I'm saying?

It's like, why are you always looking for the dumbest in to make

to make these things relevant.

Shit.

I didn't even.

I missed that.

Not letting it heal.

You're a bit of an accelerationist.

Okay.

So in that regard.

Well, it's a very different acceleration.

No, but I'm not trying to accelerate racism.

I'm trying to end racism.

That's what that's what pure Marxist-Leninists say about the welfare state.

Okay.

It's not a band-aid.

It's a band-aid continuation of like, yeah, but they're wrong.

That's a completely different topic.

Okay, I'm just saying.

I got you.

So, but in this case, so constantly reaffirming and reaffirming, we should think about race.

Bro, you know why I don't go that hard on Hassan?

I straight up see Hassan as the most bullyable person in the world.

And he has no idea how easy I am on him.

He thinks like we're out to get him and we're like attacking him all the time.

No, we're not.

We are.

I literally give this guy such a pass just because of ethnic.

Uh favoritism.

If Hassan was not from the Middle East,

There would be literal I'm just kidding.

I'm literally it's literally a joke.

No, I I uh the reason I go easy on Hassan is because uh

I don't

um think he's that important.

Well, no, no, he's very important when it comes to the discourse, I understand that.

But I don't take him that seriously personally.

Um

Does that make sense?

I don't really take him seriously.

Race.

We should think about race.

We should characterize everyone on race, race, race.

That doesn't help defeat racism.

It perpetuates racism.

So I think it's a terrible idea.

I hate that we view ourselves separately based on different categories, race, gender, sexual orientation, etc.

It doesn't mean that there isn't things, there aren't things that are going wrong now.

It doesn't mean that there isn't systemic racism.

But there's just a fundamental cluelessness about this guy, Hassan.

Fundamental cluelessness.

It means that there's a better way to address it.

And then in terms of the diversity, look, I would do not affirmative action, but whatever is the appropriate way to put a thumb on a scale, but for acceptance into schools based on class, not on race.

And it's not because of class dynamics and I don't want the rich to go to good schools, et cetera.

No, I'm saying that if you're if you came from a poor background, I don't give a goddamn if it's from the hollers of West Virginia or your kid black kid in the Bronx.

If you rose up and got great scores and great grades in a situation like that, you are more likely to be successful.

It's not just that it gives you diversity.

Okay, I'm what pilled?

Confucianism pilled.

Bro, this is like insufferable.

Like literally, what did I just say?

Okay, whatever though.

Aren't I so good at reading people and like pinning down exactly how they are?

That means.

Yeah, no, you want to, yeah.

This is once again, Jenkis, Dengis, rise up.

You know, you want a Chinese style.

Pure meritocracy, pure meritocratic approach.

Now, the problem with that is that when you have underserved communities consistently, you got to put your thumb on the scale in a certain place because we don't have true equality of opportunity in this country.

And obviously.

Hold on.

What's the problem with the Chinese thing again?

I'm pretty sure they're doing it way better in China than whatever like, what do you mean?

Oh, the problem with that?

What do you mean the problem with that?

What problem?

Compare what they're doing, whatever it is, to the mess we have here, and I don't really think there's a problem, all right?

Obviously, people like yourself and myself, that's what we're advocating for.

Republicans will turn around and bastardize that critique and critique it by saying, You want equality of outcome.

We don't want equality of outcome.

We want true equality of opportunity.

And when there's no true equality of opportunity, when black communities are consistently underserved, when you look at the Chicago public school system that is 90% of the state of the UK.

Bro, if Hassan was really about it, which he's not, he would do debates.

He would.

I'm not saying he would debate me or Jackson.

He would debate Charlie Kirk and he would debate all these people.

And that's he would actually be so successful if he did.

I'm not going to lie.

It sucks.

I hate saying it, but he would.

He's just so insecure about his abilities.

But if Hassan started debating, he would smoke.

Destiny and all these other people, he would.

I would, that would actually be a crisis for ACP.

We would have to literally strategize how to take him down.

I'm not even fucking kidding.

If he started debating right now, the fact that he doesn't do debates, he's literally not a threat to us because we know he has no future.

How can he have a future?

How will he ever gain traction and win over?

Audiences, new audiences, the new generation.

How is he going to do it without debates?

Yeah.

Illinois' like black and brown student body population being consistently uh underserved, you are getting to a point where uh people are not being propped up to succeed in this process.

So I think like you're right, uh analyzing it from the class.

Debate Charlie Kirk, debate Ben Shapiro, debate these people, debate Jordan Peterson.

Oh, they would love to debate him.

Position is good because even though there's a racial dynamic and a racial disparity that exists in the American normal order of business, the violence or the inequalities, the structural inequalities are still dished out on a class-based perspective.

Yeah, I mean, the Hollers in Kentucky don't have great public schools either.

So they also had to overcome a lot.

So, like, saying that a black guy at Exeter should get an advantage, but a white kid in the middle of Missouri who's going to a shit public school too should not get an advantage.

That makes no sense.

I don't think that that's what people are advocating for, though.

I mean, I don't know how.

I'm literally advocating for that.

I'm not advocating for that.

I don't know why I'm against that.

I don't think people who are, I don't think that black activist groups are saying like, no, the poor white people.

This is the son's problem.

He always assumed, oh, like the black activist groups.

It's like, those people are fucking CIA-funded Democrats.

Those are Democrats!

Black Lives Matter, that group got hundreds of millions from Soros.

And he thinks that because they're black, that they're authentic and they're real.

Those people are not welcome in black communities, the real ones.

They're not in the black neighborhoods in Detroit and Chicago.

They're not that's we're not where they are.

All they come from is Democrat money.

No, but they're saying give an advantage based on race, not class.

And I'm saying I 100% disagree.

Yeah, they are saying that, by the way.

Agree with that.

Okay, well again, Bandaid uh Bandaid's illegal.

Why Hassan, why are you scared to agree with that?

You know, why are you so fucking scared?

He's like scared bro, there's this like crazy.

Like, oh, we'll never I'm never gonna contradict the activists.

Oh, not the activists.

I don't wanna be cancelled by the activists.

Bro, grow a fucking pear.

Holy shit.

Solution, uh, okay.

So, back to Biden and Harris.

So, we both agree Biden should have gotten the out of the race.

They're crazy.

Can I just say one other thing, actually?

Historically, the wrong that has been committed is on the basis of race.

So, I think the solution to that problem, albeit you know, should no, it's not based on race, it's based on class.

I can fucking prove it.

That's 'cause I'm a real Marxist.

Why am I saying that as if Hassan even pretends to be a Marxist?

He doesn't.

He's just a Democrat.

Jimmy!

Look, it is class.

I'll tell you why.

The difference between white and black people is rooted in different historical class relationships to production.

Black people were enslaved and white people weren't.

So it created a new social strata.

Classes have history.

They evolve.

Just because black people were freed doesn't mean that their prior slave status did not determine the evolution of their class status as a different

Social segment and strata than white people.

A lot of the time.

Not always, but a lot of the time.

Again, not always.

Sometimes black people were living in the same communities and working in the same workplaces as white people.

And race was just some nonsense tool to divide people.

But the re the decisive difference was the fact.

that um black people were beca on account of having been slaves never able to acquire an institutionalized status as Americans.

And

I mean economically institutionalized.

And um

well, besides the welfare system or whatever, right?

Which had no which, you know which is a complete degradation of their status as Americans in general.

But yes, slavery was class was it's not race, it's class.

Anyone who says it's race is either a racist or an idealist, and I can prove it with Marxism.

Are you guys ready for this?

Are y'all ready for this?

Are y'all ready for this?

Are y'all ready for this?

I'll tell you why.

That's it.

If you say it's race, that means you're saying that, you know, r uh race is historically decisive on account of what, uh biological differences or something.

So you're a racialist.

You b you really you are racist.

Okay, next question.

If you don't believe that's the case, you're an idealist.

Well, I'm saying if you are committed to the view that um

If you're committed to the view that the differences

are based the c that race is the cause.

Either you're a racist who believes in a racialism or you're an idealist.

Because then you're going to say, well, maybe I don't believe in the real racialism, but what you do believe in is what?

What you believe in is uh

is that people's thought prejudices, their inborn prejudices about other races, the the idea of racism in other words is the decisive factor, which is another acquiescence to idealism.

'Cause racism is then just an ideology.

If you're not a racist, then of course you think it's just an ideology.

And then if you're saying no, it's a systemic structural thing well, you're just saying that that idea is raised raised to the status of an institutional convention.

It's still idealism.

So you either believe in class

Or that's it.

Now the national question is a separate thing.

The national but the national question concerns the question of state sovereignty.

It concerns national policy.

It's not.

A race question.

Okay?

So no.

There is no room for race in Marxism.

There is no room for race in Marxism at all.

None.

It is class.

Unless you want to, um uh unless you want to uh

You want to um

Spin it as a uh

A national question, which others have tried in the past and failed to do, in my view.

That's a separate discussion, though.

Should feature a class dynamic?

Absolutely will have some racialized component attached to it because you can't right a historic wrong by simply being like, Yeah, we're just gonna so look look, this is really important.

So let's talk about uh balance.

The better position, I think, is that the only race in America are black people.

That I think that's such a much more powerful position.

There's no race is not a cause of anything.

The reason.

Race

i the racial issue is so felt by black people in particular is because America denies its own uh real civil society.

and cannot recognize its own real civil society.

And um this leads to the racialization of a specific segment of the population

which represents the univer the universal American race, right?

Because in the beginning, when let's take longshoremen or firefighters, they're all white, let's say in the South, right, where you've got massive Jim Crow laws.

If you deny that and you think, oh, no, black people got perfect opportunity in the 1940s and 20s and 60s in the South, you're just in a different planet, so there's no point in talking to you, right?

So they're at a massive, massive disadvantage, to say the least.

They can't get in.

And the longshoremen, I get it.

Their instinct is, I want to give my job to my son.

It's a good job.

It pays well, etc., right?

So I want to pass it on to my son.

Now, at some point, you have to use affirmative action in the beginning to break through that.

Because if you allow that to happen, black people are never going to be able to break through, right?

So you've got to, in the beginning, say, look, we're taking action based on race because the discrimination was based on race.

But if you do that forever, then you never break the racial paradigm, right?

We're always thinking about race and we're always separating based on race.

So it can't be forever.

It can't be never.

So then the question becomes, when do you end affirmative action?

And well, we started in the 1960s.

Here we are in 2024.

If it hasn't worked by now, I got news for you.

It ain't never going to work.

That's the wrong solution to a real problem.

But that's also because, like, it's not, it hasn't even.

No, Jenkins is not saying racism is over.

Pack it up, guys.

No, he's not.

I literally said that's not the case.

The wounds still exist.

The wound is real.

Yeah.

And I literally said systematic name is real.

Maybe you might not, maybe you might not like this, but I do think that reparations is part of the solution to this, albeit it's politically impossible to get through in a country that is so resilient in their interpretation of the true anti-racist theory is Dugan's it's actually extremely advanced.

I'm not even gonna, you guys aren't even ready for it, right?

Dugan's theory of racism today is the most advanced one.

You ready to hear it?

To Dugan.

Um, liberals are racist against all non-liberals.

And all and they are becoming a new race.

Liberals are becoming a new race.

And they're and um the real racism is against all illiberal people.

And that is the most nuclear pill that no one's ready for, so I'm not even going to tell you about it.

What that means is that you can be white, you can be black, Mexic, it doesn't matter.

We're all victims of the racism of the new liberal race.

Uh, which is a kind of transhuman, you're not ready for the Dugan pill.

Yeah, how much they've internalized white supremacy, but again, reparations is a super interesting nuanced conversation.

So, uh, on the one hand, the double racism theory, you know, and I'll give credit to Mary Ann Williamson here.

I thought she phrased it best back in 2020 when she said a debt is owed.

And that is actually very literally true.

So, we used the country at large and the country I love, and yes, we came to it much, much later, but that country took advantage of all of that free labor to build what we love and what we now take advantage of and what we came here for, right?

So, hundreds of years of free labor, no matter what your races or what you're considering, under that theory.

Trump is a victim of uh liberal racism.

Not because he's white, but because he represents the illiberal race, and there's no white versus black race.

It's liberal versus illiberal.

Condition is unacceptable.

They never got back to that.

It's a massive robbery from African Americans in this country.

So I not only acknowledge that, but I'm enraged by it.

But now, what are we going to do?

If you propose a reparations that's so extreme as San Francisco did, where they're like, oh, any black person can buy a house in San Francisco for a dollar?

What?

What?

What do you, I don't even know what you're talking about.

Hold on.

Hold on.

What are you talking about?

Had this insane thing where they're like, okay, now every white and non-black, including Latinos, including Middle Eastern, Asians, et cetera, have to give money to black people in this city or in this town where they passed it.

Okay, let's just take a look at it.

Let's analyze it a little bit because this seems a little kooky.

You're going to see how insane it is.

This seems a little bit kooky.

So proposals include financing debt forgiveness, guaranteed annual incomes for families and homes in the city for $1.

San Francisco Baxter Reparation Plans, including $5 million to eligible black adults.

More than 100 recommendations included payments of $5 million to every eligible black adult, the elimination of personal debt and tax burdens, guaranteed annual incomes of at least $97,000.

For 250 years and homes in San Francisco for just one dollar of five million?

That's crazy.

Families in San Francisco lawmakers heard a range of Guardian.

They heard a no, I know.

They heard a range of options.

Sometimes.

People have ideas.

They present those ideas in a situation like this, in like a public town hall setting.

And regardless of enthusiastic support by the council.

Okay, so, but here's the thing.

This is some of the 100 different recommendations that came through.

And it doesn't seem like they followed through on this or any number of these different reparations plans.

It's like people have a multitude.

Enthusiastically received.

I think saying that is very different than following through on it as a part of your legislative agenda.

So my point was there are extreme proposals on reparations that make no sense.

Oh, and you're agreeing.

It makes no sense.

Okay.

That's a ludicrous position.

Hassan's too afraid to say this makes no sense.

Hold on.

Is there a way to do reparations in a way that that does make sense?

And I think the answer is yes.

I don't think it's giving people a house for a dollar.

I don't think it's giving them money, et cetera.

But the new school has proposed some interesting ideas, including, hey, what if we provided tax breaks that would be material in buying housing for African Americans?

So, well, okay, that's interesting because now, or you've created a fund that allows them to turn it into an education fund for their children, right?

Bro, this is why the Democrats are like racist.

Like, I'm sorry, there's a reason.

MAGA's message is a winning message, which is, yeah, the colorblind thing.

Like, fuck it.

We're all Americans.

We're going to have all of us prosper.

Not any one race, not leaving any race behind.

All Americans together.

Which is such a it's much more compelling than whatever the fuck this fucking weird shit is.

This person also has a good point.

We should have a ceasefire in Gaza who has also been enthusiastically received by the Biden Abbey and didn't mean they did the damn thing because you know politicians like we're not arguing guys if you think it's absurd great fantastic we all agree i don't i don't think that there are uh uh you know i'm sure that there are some people who think this is a fantastic idea and they could get into an academic conversation about it it's just more so a matter of like the framing of this uh to make it seem as though like the no no i'm setting this out for extreme sauce yeah but like okay so i'm saying when you say reparations a lot of people are going to say bro hasan just got uncled he just got nephewed he literally said he denied that this was real pulled it up and realized it was real

And he got snefued.

No, a lot of people are going to say, hell yes.

But my point is, but what are we saying yes or no to?

So if you get, take the most extreme example, I say no, and everybody says no.

But it's not the, I'm agreeing with you.

That's not the only proposal.

I'm just telling you, New School has proposals that are really interesting about, hey, what if it was directed towards education or housing?

We promised 40 acres and a mule and we lied.

We never gave him the 40 acres and a mule.

Yeah, only reparations were given to slave owners, as a matter of fact, for lost revenue off of the freed African men and women.

Yeah.

So you see what I'm saying?

That you could do it in a way where middle America goes, oh, I get it.

That sucks.

That was an injustice.

And we're trying a small thing here to make up for the injustice.

So that it, at a minimum, symbolically to say, thank you, brothers and sisters, for putting up with this shit.

Or what about the Farmers Alliance and the Populist Party in the 1800s, where the black farmers and the dispossessed black people and the white people and the white farmers, all in debt, shook hands and said, let's fucking topple the system and get some land.

Let's all get some land.

And it's like, you know, that's the American way.

What is this shit, man?

This is bourgeois nonsense.

I know you didn't do it voluntarily, but you helped build this country and we appreciate you.

So get on a page where we understand each other and appreciate each other instead of framing it as I'm taking from you.

You owe me and I'm taking from you, right?

So that perpetuates a wrong cycle.

We don't need New Deal social engineers to solve racism.

It's that simple.

Whereas if the c but in order to do that, Haas, the last thing on it is you've got to have like truth and reconciliation, just like South Africa did.

Here's all the fed up shit we did.

South Africa's oh my god.

Can people understand this is a fucked up country?

This is why Americans hate this shit.

This is a fucked up country.

It's not just all the abuse that's done to black people.

And yeah, that's the truth.

Black people are targeted.

I'm not gonna fucking lie to you and tell you tell you they're not.

They are.

They're always being experimented on and targeted and uh they can't catch a fucking break.

But that is the soul of this whole country, man.

Fucking white people, you know, getting fucking attacked by hell's angels and shit, and you don't know about the brutal shit that goes on in this country, man.

It's fucked up for everybody.

Everyone, yeah, you could play the game of somebody's got it better than me, somebody's got it better than me, but at the end of the fucking day, man, this country's cooked.

This country is cooked.

You know, South Africa's reconstruction period also was not a great thing.

But truth and reconciliation was excellent.

So that portion of it.

We don't fucking need a truth and reconciliation.

We don't need more pageantries and things being done to fucking fix and solve the racism.

Uh

That's just such bullshit.

It's like oh yeah, let's c keep it's just an insult to the fucking people of this country struggling to put food on their fucking table and pay bills while they're in debt, being hounded constantly by this shit.

All right?

You wanna solve all the racial problems in America?

Let's

Let's fucking solve the problem of uh

How there isn't America don't even exist right now, you know.

We don't even have an American people right now.

Ah man.

It's like so insulting.

Fucking crazy.

The the only people who think that racism is the number one problem are like libtards who live in fucking who do live perfect lives and they're like, Oh, I'm just thinking about black people in poverty all the time and like they don't understand

That there's actually a multiracial working class, and they're just themselves racist who just think all black people are poor.

And you know what?

I'm gonna fucking say some other shit too.

There's a really big black upper middle class, and yes, there fucking is.

Yes, there fucking is.

The idea that black people are all poor or something is the biggest fucking bullshit I've ever heard.

There are plenty of middle class, upper middle class, and bourgeois black people.

So please don't fucking give me this shit.

Was great because they said, Here's all the terrible things we did.

Guys, it doesn't mean that white people today are racist.

It doesn't mean white people today are awful.

It doesn't mean all white people are the same.

It doesn't mean any of that.

What it means is in the past is that you with Reza drawing sigils?

What what what what what do you mean was was what me?

Who even looks like me in that photo?

There were terrible things that were done.

And here's us trying to make up for it in some small way that the Look, I like Reza.

I like him.

He's really smart.

And I respect him a lot.

But I motherfucker, I was not drawing sigils at any point with anyone.

I don't sigils, I don't know what the hell you're talking about, man.

The country agrees to, and we're all on board for.

And sincere apology and a sincere thank you.

And now from now on, let's move forward.

Let's move forward and cut all the talk of like race this and race that and gender this and gender that from both sides, by the way.

The right wing starts more identity politics than the left wing does.

So now the right-wing guys will have their heads will explode.

What do you mean?

You guys try to find wedge issues on every thing.

And then you go more and more and extreme.

And I think you guys, Haas, fall into that trap way too often.

Oh, stop calling him Haas.

You know, I fucking hate people who think that I chose my name to sound like Hassan when it was literally Abdul Al-Hazrad from HP Lovecraft.

To that later.

Let's get to it now.

What do you mean by that?

So, you know what we're going to talk about, the trans issues.

So on trans issues, as an example, over 60% of Americans agree.

Hassan is nervous.

Of course, they should have the same constitutional rights, same rights to housing, employment, rules.

Which they already have.

Against discrimination, etc.

Does one third of the country disagree?

Yeah.

Sad day for them.

Two-thirds of the country agrees trans people should be protected.

I'm 100% on board for that, right?

And if you're a right-winger and go, no, man, they're weird.

They're different.

And I'm going to hate them.

What good about you?

Transgenders do not have less rights at all.

It's not a rights issue.

It's a pronoun, whatever.

That has nothing to do with rights.

I'm not going to hate them and I'm going to protect them.

Okay.

But when, so that didn't work for them.

So they went digging.

They went digging.

So then they go, okay, we should ban trans people from the million.

Did you read the New York Times article I told you to read on this the last time we had this conversation?

I'm not sure I did.

About how, okay, so you know they went digging.

Yeah, so what you're describing is what I was explaining to you that the Christian groups, the right-wing Christian nationalist groups, in the aftermath of the failed initiative to do a trans bathroom bill in North Carolina at a time when Donald Trump was pro-trans, openly stating he was pro-trans, openly criticizing the North Carolina legislation, saying, leave it as it is.

Nobody cares.

Caitlin Jenner can piss in whichever bathroom she wants to piss in as long as she's pissing in Trump Tower.

When all this stuff was happening, yeah.

2016, let me tell you what the fucking steal of the century was.

You had the GOP.

Yeah, they were pushing the obsession of trans stuff, whatever, but they were also being helped by these university retards who were also pushing for a bunch of university trans shit and pronouns or whatever.

So it's like Charlie Kirk's best friend was the retarded like trigger puff.

Remember that meme from like twenty sixteen or whatever?

Those people that were like obsessed with pronouns and pink hair and shit.

Bro, they were working together, them and the GOP.

Ain't that crazy?

There was definitely a different attitude overall.

I think part of that was because, just like you also recognize, most Americans just think trans people are being discriminated against and unjustly.

And the other reason was because it just seemed like cruel and unusual for no particular reason.

So, what these Christian family groups did was go back to the drawing board and, you know, hire the likes of, you know, maybe Frank Luntz didn't personally involve himself in this one, but like people like Frank Luntz that would go and focus group and test different messages.

Yep.

And they arrived at two key points that were resilient.

Americans don't necessarily care about trans issues all that much, but out of frame.

Is it necessary that everyone sees me?

They do care about meritocracy.

And what is the one place where there's true meritocracy in the eyes of many Americans?

Now, there's, you know, still not perfect meritocracy, but sports.

Sports is the one area where if you dominate, you know, if you're good, you're going to dominate.

If you're bro, if Hassan is about to say this, listen, the sports thing is like a huge litmus test.

All right.

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

The sports thing is a massive, massive litmus.

It's like that is where I consider you not to be in the realm of sanity.

All right.

If you're going to sit here and say that Haas can go to the Women's Olympics for weightlifting.

And I don't even have to do anything but identify a certain way, just like the South Park episode.

That shit is crazy.

All right.

Bro, that's cooked.

That's not meritocracy, bro.

That's cooked.

Dominant, then you're going to, you know, you're going to get elevated.

So they packaged anti-trans sentiment with sports and specifically children's sports.

Right.

And that is where we arrive at what, 60% of the country, or even larger percentages than that, don't think trans women should be participating in sports with cis women, specifically trans girls, you know, competing in athletic endeavors with.

I mean, what's wrong with that?

With cis girls.

Yeah.

So that's exactly my point, Haas.

And when they laid that trap, first of all, the right wing should acknowledge.

Haas.

That was identity politics being played by the right wing.

The right wing did the no, it wasn't.

It was actually happening.

Hussain Bolt with a wig was fucking lapping all of these women.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

And people were just starting to be like, yo, this is like, bro, South Park was not doing identity politics from the right.

Like, this was some shit everyone was seeing happening.

And it, you know, you're reading into it too much.

It's like a very predictable response by the population to some institutionalized insanity.

Pulse.

They did the studies.

They were looking for something that the American people would hate about the left, about trans people, about LGBTQ people.

When you go looking and searching and digging for an identity, don't tell me you're not doing identity politics.

No, no, this is exactly what it is.

This is identity politics.

And the right does it all the time.

Now, listen, here's the thing.

You understand this to be a distraction.

Like you recognize that it's a distraction, which is why I don't think either of us are saying that this should be the pivotal, this should play a pivotal role in the top of the line messaging of the Democratic Party, which is that, no, trans women have to compete with cis women.

I don't think anyone is making that argument at all.

No.

But I think we should, you know, it would serve us both well to openly recognize, and I think you do as well, that this hyper-focusing on, you know, trans athletes at the high school level, all the way to the collegiate level, is a distraction that most Americans might have an opinion on, but don't necessarily care about.

It's not a major.

I think that's true, but I do think that the thing is, the reason this one's different is that the noticeable change was recent, and then people started to get up in arms about it pretty organically.

It wasn't just a media push by conservatives, it was something that actually.

Started to like gain traction because of just like observations in real life.

Driver of turnout.

It's not something that people go out and vote for.

No, okay.

Well, we can have that argument in a second.

I will explain it to you why I don't think it's a real issue.

Part of the reason why is that it's just simply not a real issue because, do you know the number of trans athletes nationally?

So I know that the collegiate level is microscope.

Look, all it takes is one biological male to completely change the game.

for any given sport.

So, there doesn't have to be a ton, all right, for it to be very decisive.

Scopic.

That's right.

The number is 40.

Yeah.

And so, like, 20 states, 20 red states passed a law against transgender girls participating in high school sports, and they couldn't name one transgender girl in their state that participated in high school sports.

Yes.

So, I, my, that's exactly my point.

Even some of the girls, even Spencer Cox vetoed the bill in Utah originally.

All right.

All right.

I have a funny joke.

All right.

See, can you imagine if?

Can you imagine if there was like a NCAA like national championships gallery?

There's only 40 champions or whatever per year, and all 40 of them are the transgenders.

And they couldn't name one transgender girl in their state that participated in high school sports.

Yes.

So I, my, that's exactly my point.

Even Spencer Cox vetoed the bill in Utah originally, and he actually wrote like a pretty compelling argument as to why he was vetoing it.

And governors like Andy Bashar have actually won by higher margins after openly defending trans people in the past in a state like Kentucky, for example.

So, so look, we start with a point of agreement, which is that the right-wing use the wedge issue to drive a wedge between us.

They go looking for it and they do it based on identity politics.

So, we totally agree on that.

We totally agree that it's a microscopic issue that affects almost no one in the country.

Okay.

So, when we got, we don't have people.

I don't even think we don't have healthcare for everyone.

This is bullshit.

I don't even think that's distracting.

I don't even think that doesn't have to react to it.

It does, it does actually impact a lot of cis women.

There's more cis women than there are trans women, and there are a lot of young girls that this could technically impact because now you have bills like the one in Ohio, the penis inspection bills, like the one that they have in Ohio, where like one of the parents from the opposing team could be like, that's a trans girl, actually.

And then they have to literally go and traumatize this like young girl who, in many instances, is not statistically, it is highly unlikely that that person is trans to begin with.

Are you sure?

Like, wouldn't it just be a birth certificate?

So it ends up harming cis women even more than it ends up harming trans women.

So that's look, I said this exact same point on trans women.

Bro, this dude, the problem is, Sony, he just doesn't live in reality, man.

You just don't fucking live in reality, bro.

In real life.

Real life is so much more complicated than this, like, convenient fantasy world you're creating.

Yeah, I talk to ordinary people and I talk to them about their concerns, and so does every sensible, common sense person who's talked about this with normal fucking people not plugged in to this fake world Hassan lives in.

And, like, yeah, there is a fucking concern about like bathrooms and sports.

And like, yeah, it's like, bro, you're being overly ideological to like create a new reality.

I'm sorry.

I know what I'm saying doesn't sound sophisticated because I'm not particularly invested in this.

But

You know, people do think that, yeah, being a biological male confers huge advantages when it comes to sports, which, I mean, it does.

So that's a fact.

And you don't need to be a fucking genius to think that's a little absurd or unfair.

Tree.

And their audience hated it.

But this is the reality.

The reason I make a distinction between high school and professional sports is because in high school, what you're saying is, like Ohio, if I really want to institute this, even though, bro, Hassan is the type of person where you could like, you could be served a plate of dinner and it's literally shit.

And Hassan will be on his stream and it's literally a dump.

It's like shit.

It's literally shit.

And he'll be on his stream and he'll be like, you know, the thing is, it's like, it's like so crazy how like these like, you know, all these like grifters are like pushing this narrative of like shit on the plate when in reality, yes, was it digested a little bit?

Sure, but almost all of the food we eat has a little bit of traces of digestion in them.

I mean, fertilizer is used to grow all of our food.

So it really doesn't even make a difference when you think, like, that's the type of person he is.

And all it takes is like simple, bro.

That's a dump on my plate at the dinner table.

It's a sh pile of feces shit.

All right.

You don't have like he, the way he distorts reality is so, so twisted.

It affects almost no trans or cis girls in the world in Ohio as it is.

But if I go to implement it, now I got to check everybody's genitals.

And there's got to be a genital checker, right?

And let me guess: tons of Republican older men are going to volunteer to check the genitals of our high school kids.

And I hate it.

I don't want it.

It's like a groomer pervert.

Bro, nobody's going to be checking.

I don't.

I'm going to go full talking out of my ass.

Is that real?

Where they're going to inspect genitals instead of asking for birth certificates?

Because I'm sorry.

This is a little retarded.

They're not going to do DNA tests to see your chromosomes.

They're not going to just check your fucking chromosomes or your birth certificates.

I don't buy there's going to be these inspections.

That just sounds like completely fake.

And they're going to probably put Jim Jordan in charge of it.

No.

Okay.

But when you get to the professional level, you get to the Olympic level, you guys make a giant mistake.

You fall right into their trap and you go, oh, yeah, sure, they should be able to compete.

AP News says it's fake.

How the fuck are these guys grandstanding on fighting like misinformation when they're just believing like literal blue and on libtard nonsense?

The overwhelming majority of the American people do not agree with you.

You should let the Olympics and the professional sports decide it on their own.

It is not a constitutional right.

They have no so-called right to participate in the WNBA.

I don't have a right to participate in the NBA.

So number one, I don't agree when you go to those extremes.

And number two, does it affect elections?

Well, we had an overwhelming answer to that in the Trump Harris contest because Donald Trump ran the anti-trans ad, which was not about hating trans people, although, of course, it was perceived as such by a lot of people.

And so, but what it was was saying, hey, you guys are giving free surgery to undocumented immigrants who are detainees who are trans.

It's too much.

It's too, and I agree.

It is too much.

98% of Americans agree.

It is too much.

Right.

So instead of saying, oh, no, you guys are right.

That's too much.

And of course, sports leagues, that's fine.

And of course, no, we're not going to pay for any surgery for a dude who just crossed the border a second ago, right?

Instead, you guys go, no, let's fight.

Oh, for God's sake.

And you dig in, dig in, dig in.

And now we're on a losing ground for no reason at all.

Do you hate these political commentators that are always citing these extremely specific statistics?

Oh, 98%?

Not 89%?

Oh, wow.

That really, bro, if you just have common sense and you can have a pulse on just what ordinary people think because you have common sense, you don't need statistics at all.

All right.

And you know.

Yeah, oh, the real big difference that it's fucking 77% instead of 83%.

Like, shut the fuck up.

It's so stupid.

What you're really trying to say and communicate is like, yeah, motherfucker, nobody in their right mind believes.

Like, that's all you're saying, right?

Tell me who was who on the Democratic Party's campaign was actually saying, like, no, we have to issue bottom surgery for undocumented migrants outside of Kamala Harris saying that in an ACLU questionnaire in 2019, when faced with the question, what will you do for trans people?

She just gave that answer, which was a bad answer to give regardless.

But was there like a hyper-focus from the Democratic Party's campaign that I'm missing?

So Trump starts running the ad, and it instantly jumps to the most effective ad according to Trump's internal numbers and according to Kamala Harris's internal numbers.

So at that point, that's also not true.

David Pluff literally bro, this chat is like cooked as fuck.

Holy shit.

And I'm like looking at this chat.

I'm just like, shit.

Literally said.

And this trans ad was not driving vote.

I mean, the most effective ad Quentin I think they ran was not that.

It was the Biden Onics ad.

On the Pot Save America autopsy that they engaged in, but that the ad actually wasn't all that impactful at all.

Yeah, bullshit.

I don't believe you say that.

I know it's not true because future forward, the biggest pack that Kamala Harris said has said that bro, Democrats are so creepy.

This is why Jenkins still a Democrat.

You're not outside of the Democrats until you realize something about ancient laws of human discourse and subjectivity.

You don't fucking run experiments polling people's opinions.

You confidently be like Joe Rogan, sit in front of the fucking campfire and speak on some real shit.

And people will see it and be like, that's some real shit.

That's how it is.

And that's how it works.

In ancient tribal times in hunter-gatherer societies, motherfuckers were not running around taking polls about people's opinions.

How opinions were determined in the first place was that just authentically, big motherfuckers were sitting by the campfire and they were just like, they were just like, you know, man, Willie Mammoth, big as fuck.

That Willie Mammoth, big as fuck.

Saber toothed tiger.

Ferroche, that saber-toothed tiger coming

Scary ass shit, man.

Facts.

That's facts.

Scary ass shit.

Scary.

And like, that's what you get an idea of how people think and what, like, that's how it is.

You don't fucking do this thing where you're like, I have to microanalyze them.

Like, this is there.

You're in, like, putting on a lab coat and treating people like mice.

It's fucking stupid.

Just like, be honest about the truth.

This is the difference between Platonic republicanism and Aristotle democracy.

The the pl uh

The platinists are just committed to the truth?

Uh and the Aristotle people are a little more metal.

They're but they care more about the concrete expression of the truth.

The Charlemagne the God version, but you know, I mean it's the real way is to be a pre-Socratic Lacanian who disguises their manipulations.

But acts like the guy at the campfire.

Moved the national polls by two not the national polls, but for people who viewed it, it moved the numbers by 2.7 points nationally.

That is gigantic, and they said it was the most effective ad Trump had.

That's why he then doubled down on it.

Bro, shut the fuck.

This is like fucking.

This is like.

This is such a weird social engineering.

Like, dad had a 2.7% shift.

Bro.

Do music artists need to get data to know if shit's a shit's like a banger or not?

Probably not, right?

Politics is no different.

Quadruple down and wound up spending 20% of his entire ad budget on that ad.

I think both sides thought it was the single most of that.

I think that's literally the reason why Kamala Harris was able to actually.

Instead of talking about what either side thinks or what people think, why don't you have an introspection about what you think and how much that's connected to reality?

And I guarantee you that alone will give you much more knowledge about how people feel about things than these weird studies you're using to.

To fucking scientifically understand people's opinions, it's fucking stupid.

They catch up to her, uh, catch up to Donald Trump on not only the economy because of their hyper focus on the trans shit.

But here's the thing.

You guys thought that helped Kamala Harris?

No, I don't.

I think that this kind of hyper-focus on a marginalized group is not moving people to go out and vote in any meaningful capacity for some of the reasons that you also mentioned, but also because most people don't know who the trans people are.

They've never met a trans person.

They don't give a shit.

They just care about the economy.

And when you're hyper-focusing on just like, you know, trans people and like dominating trans people or some shit, even all right, I'm going to be.

This is my unbiased, neutral take, common sense reality based on anecdotal experience.

And if I, if I'm wrong about this being true for most people,

Um, then I'm not living in reality, all right?

But what it really is, the reason a lot of times people are talking about trans shit isn't because they care about transgender people, it's because the more important point they're trying to make is the mistrust they have for, again,

The neoliberal institutions or whatever you want to call them, the ruling institutions of society.

Like, when I talk to, like, man, can you believe they're trying to say that men and women are like, that's what it is.

It's like, they're trying to say that, you know, people are becoming retarded and stupid, just like South Park says it.

Literally, just like South Park.

Like, South Park has such a good pulse on the feelings of the American masses.

It's crazy.

But it's like, it's that.

It's not that, like, it's not like some rationalistic thing where they're like, oh, you know, this is going to affect me.

No, it's just like, it's more about.

Who they trust and who they don't trust.

And that does for the same reason that people

uh from a conservative perspective, are you know complaining about transgender stuff.

They're also looking at Biden, who's like, Yeah, the Democrats the best it's sorry, the economy's the best it's ever been ever and they're like, clearly everyday real life experience contradicts that.

So they're like, yeah, we're being lied to.

Like, just like all around, even on issues as fundamental as like sexuality or whatever.

So that is what.

That's where it's coming from.

It's really simple to understand that you agree with that.

I'm not saying it's a good thing or a bad thing.

I'm just trying to tell you, like, what it is.

They're like, after a certain point, there is an outrage fatigue.

And I think on the trans issue, we like consultants and people who are hyper-focused on the media care far more about the effectiveness of ads like that than the actual Americans that went out and voted.

And you saw this reality.

They won.

No, I know, but okay.

So I mean, like, it's in the real world.

Americans don't vote on issues.

They don't vote on issues.

They vote.

Voting is incredibly psychological, it has nothing to do with real issues.

I'll tell you that.

They won, we lost.

That's why you have a world of polling.

That's why you have to look at one, we lost.

That's why you have to look at the broader campaign and what Americans were concerned with and why they voted in the ways that they did.

And I think here's where you and I agree on.

So, your position is: even though both sides overwhelmingly say that ad was the most effective ad, been dumbasses.

Do you agree?

There are a million people that are both in your replies that have also gotten mad at me as well, time and time again on specific issues.

I hate this debate because it's them just getting too fucking meta.

Johnny, appreciate it.

It's both of them getting too meta about what the voters want instead of talking about what the truth is.

And you

If you can't be honest about what the truth is, you'll never connect with the masses.

That's just the truth.

Maybe ones that even pertain to trans rights.

It literally doesn't matter.

People get very passionate, understanding.

I'm very understanding.

I agree.

There's 13 douchebags online.

That's what I said from day one.

Wait, no, but why the would you ever hyper-focus on people like that?

No, no, no, no.

So you might be saying, hold on, hold on.

You're doing the village.

You're demanding that there's bullshit.

You're on the sister soldier moment.

No, no, you're right.

So the minute we said the most reasonable things on earth, which you now agree with, apparently, then what happened?

It wasn't just the 13 douchebags online.

And by the way, we said, no, no, no, no, those 13 douchebags represent all the left.

You know, you're not on the left anymore because the 13 douchebags control the left.

And then what happened next?

Then majority report jumped in, and Lance from the Serbs, and all the other little dirtbags jumped in.

And they were like, oh, he doesn't like the majority report now.

I thought they were best friends.

13 douchebags are right.

We need to protect every douchebag.

Okay, okay.

I mean, I'm 100% right.

Every dirtback show did it.

You gotta get it.

Every dirtback show did it.

Tell me I'm wrong.

This is reframing an issue that is now we've moved away from the electoral consequences of a trans ad to your own personal anger and frustration that you have with left-wing media online.

We are left-wing media online, those levels listed, are full of shit.

I have disagreements.

I have disagreements with everyone in this space, but there's a reason why, seemingly, I don't catch the same amount of strays that you do because I don't hyper-focus.

Because you're a fucking grifter.

On hyperfuck, what do you think it is?

They think you're uh uh hot, young.

I don't mean attractive.

God bless on that, okay?

I'm also obviously hot.

Um I mean you don't catch strays because you uh because you're too scared to upset anyone.

Except us, by the way, which you're going to regret, right?

As and they think, oh, the young people watch Hassan, he's cool.

And you give the thing of like, oh, no, no, trans people are right on everything, right?

You don't come out and make the distinctions that Anna and I made.

Okay, so they think, oh, no, he's good.

He's extreme as we are.

And then he's woke left.

Yeah, extreme.

And then the reason, first of all, you're okay.

By the way, you're important to all you guys.

You better attack him.

He apparently agrees with me.

Okay.

You better attack him.

I don't.

You're not going to attack him.

You're hyper-personalizing this into like criticisms that you've received.

You go, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, who are you hyper-personalizing?

Because I called you a nauseous.

My special is myself, you, majority report.

But I've never changed my policy.

All of this is inconsequential in the grand scheme of things.

And whenever there's like drama, for example, I've been getting attacked mercilessly by my former podcast co-host that has been actively trying to de-platform me for the past two months because he thinks that, or he's claiming that I am creating a space that is anti-Semitic.

The way I've dealt with that, for the most part, is by just actively ignoring it leading up to the election because I was like, this is some silly nonsense.

And in the aftermath, I covered some of the broader points and I moved on.

If you extend the conflict that way, instead of trying to find a reasonable middle ground and even show humility in a certain way, of course.

I agree.

Even show humility instead of saying, I'm right.

There's never going to be any sort of a reason.

I saw the humility, but of course.

Idiots were.

Because I like, what does humility mean?

Like, oh, maybe you're right about your dumb opinion that's going to cost us this election.

Maybe you're right about your dumb opinion that gets the majority of the country to hate us when our economic positions are overwhelmingly popular.

Maybe you're making us intensely unpopular when we should be focusing on universal healthcare, higher wages, paid family leave.

But you idiots hate policy.

All you want is identity politics bullshit.

And you think that drives ratings?

And you want me to show humility to those morons?

No, none.

Let's have a meta-conversation really quickly about the ways in which branding works online.

I am of this mindset that every single person is aggrieved and far too self-involved to pay attention to the more nuanced conversations that others are having on any particular issue.

This is why, even when there is like a faucet of smears that I am attacked with, with clips that are completely out of context, I address it and I move on.

And I come at this conversation with an understanding that most people are not fully aware of what my analysis is on any particular matter.

This has happened in the past with me purchasing a house where people made a big deal about it.

Like even back then, I said, look, people are angry.

People are frustrated with their position in society.

People are frustrated with lack of opportunity.

And in that process, when they see a rich asshole like myself, you know, buy a house, they're going to get mad at me.

And there's a healthy amount of anger towards wealthy people there that I agree with as well.

Such a cuck-like response.

I think that they're misdirecting their anger at the wrong person.

But ultimately, I move on.

If I you see, you know what would earn Hassan respect if he started like doubling down and flaunting his wealth, being like, Yeah, you broke bitches.

I'm a Gucci communist, you broke bitch.

If he did that, people would respect him.

I'm not even kidding.

I spend every waiting moment covering.

I kinda understand.

I get it.

Bro, it's it's you don't even get it, bro.

You don't even get why people are mad.

It's not for what you think.

It's 'cause you literally just won't own up to it.

Still pretending to be like morally superior and it's completely fake.

Nobody's morally superior.

It's a dog eat dog world, bitch.

Eat or be eaten.

That's true for all of us individually.

And the only way we get out of that

is through a collective a commitment to a collective

Uh, endeavor or movement or initiative or something that's just not personal.

You can't personalize the morality of a loftier, higher collective existence, such as a movement or a party or something.

No, the anger that I'm receiving.

And if I spend every waking moment covering-hate you because you try to like present yourself as like this moral person.

You're not, bro.

We're all fucking dirty in this world.

Things that are out of context, then I'm not going to be able to.

I'm just going to be that.

I'm going to be the person who's responding to the drama all the time when I feel like there are far larger, more consequential issues at play.

Now, let me take the other side of the market.

Lyper fixation on not only a very small sliver of society that is, in your honest opinion, has been openly, uh, openly targeted as like the major reason as to why people are angry is offering legitimacy to the right-wing position.

I think there's a more effective way of communicating that, and it's something that it's something that I do.

You being meta is why people hate you.

Because if you're meta, you think you're better than people and you're not regular basis, which is this is a simple distraction.

You don't care about this, and the people that do hyperfixate on this are weird and gross.

Leave people alone, let people live.

These people are your neighbors, and they and yourself are more aligned on class issues in more meaningful ways than you think.

The moss does a fantastic job with this, and Andy Bashar is done a fantastic job with this.

They're both very popular governors that you like as well.

But that's literally my position.

All right, so listen.

But the reason why people don't think about that is your position is because people see the clips.

People see clicks on what do they do.

They see clips on douchebag shows who are purposely misrepresenting our position.

Oh, he's literally a Democrat.

I didn't know he's like so pro-Democrat governors.

So, Hassan can be like praising Democrat governors, but we're gonna get flack for what?

For having memes with Trump in them and pretending that we're against all trans rights.

So, your position to that is surrender.

Okay, and no, I never surrender.

So, look, and here, let me explain why.

I think that's surrender because we've tried this, Haas.

So, let's on that meta-conversation.

So, we tried it with Trump.

So, young Turks viewers will remember in the beginning when we started running in 2015, I thought he was so illegitimate that he was doing such a, he was doing as a con, which by the way trying to be wrong, uh, Trump.

Uh, and we blurred out his face.

We, like, first we didn't show him, then we blurred out his face, and then eventually we gave up and started showing who he was.

Ignoring the beast never works.

So, then I remember when Dave Rubin came out and started lying, 100% lies, lie after lie after lie.

We ignored it because we're like, well, that's mental, right?

But then the lies started to take root because he goes on Joe Rogan.

And Joe Rogan's like, oh, really?

Tell me more.

Oh, my God.

Dave Rubin's so right.

And then he went on 100 shows.

And so then Ben Shapiro and Daily Wire comes up, more gigantic, and Crowder comes up.

And we're like, oh, these are pimples on our ass.

Who cares about Shapiro?

He's so small.

Crowder, who cares?

He's tiny.

He's microscopic.

Who cares, right?

And we didn't address them.

And you know what happened?

They festered and festered and festered.

And next thing you know, Dave Rubin, everybody started thinking, oh, I wonder if he's right about the young Turks and they have some evil nefarious purpose or something.

Then we started f ⁇ ing back and we crushed that mother.

Now he's a laughing stock.

So whenever anybody thinks of Dave Rubin, they're like, oh, yeah, he's a dumb guy, right?

But that's not because of you.

That's also because of majority reporting.

People like myself.

No, but the point is, it's not.

And it's not because you're using.

We never get anything.

The reason why I'm bringing up majority report and myself in this process is because ultimately we are all aligned on virtually every single issue.

So in many respects, you feel chastised.

Oh, how this is such a dis I'm like from another universe.

These are all scum to me.

Majority report and who were all together in this.

You fucking scum.

Individually, you feel like you fucking a resnik.

Send in a resnik.

An outcast by the left.

In a video game.

Or what fuck.

We're the majority report.

We're all lip tards together.

What's your fucking lip?

Bro, and you're trying to call us right-wing?

You're literally right-wing.

Ever like the media representation of the left?

Yeah, the left.

I'm the left.

Okay.

No, 100%.

Okay, please, please.

No, I'm no, because we have to be able to get the same thing.

But you're not a singular force.

They're like, we're the left.

We're the real left.

We're the left.

What the fuck are you guys?

You guys are freaks.

The majority report, literal AOC lip tards.

You guys are fucking right-wing Zionists.

Free surgery for every criminal.

Yes, we're the left.

Oh, Nazi, Nazi, Nazi, Nazi, Nazi, Nazi.

And Haz, what happens?

People think that.

And then here's us, Wagner group.

The left.

So if you say you're right, Jenkins, those are the extreme idiot left.

No, I don't think those are the extreme idiot left.

I think that there is going to be diversity of thought in any issue that people have.

And it's about, it's a matter of who you make your enemies in the finite amount of time that we have on the space, the finite amount of time that we have living on planet Earth.

It's about the economy of time and utilizing it appropriately.

I don't spend any time.

I don't spend any time.

I don't attack you and squire and don't correct anything.

Let all of you.

Okay, you didn't let me finish.

So Dave Rubin, I don't know if he's a laughing stock.

Then Jimmy Door comes in.

Because Dave Rubin is a right-winger.

Majority report is not.

Bro, now they're talking shit about Jimmy Door.

So you're saying, hold on.

Let me finish the whole time.

Bro, they're dead.

They're so cooked.

They're eating.

Jank is underperforming big time, by the way.

I thought it was going to be like, bro, this is desperation.

They're like, bro, Jimmy Door's sitting and laughing at all this.

They're eating each other.

Idiots.

So on Jimmy Door, he comes in.

He goes, oh, they're paid by Nancy Blizzard.

They're paying the CIA.

Lunatic, right?

And so we let it faster and let it fester.

Finally, we're like, get this f out of here.

And we tell the people the truth and we crush him.

Now he's a fucking joke on the internet, right?

So we go on and on.

And anytime we don't fight, it festers.

Anytime we do fight, we crush them and we move the gun.

And nobody thinks Jimmy Door's the left anymore.

Nobody thinks Dave Rubin's the left anymore.

And so now.

Ah.

Ah, you bitch.

You fucking bitch.

Jimmy Dora was saying the same shit that you're saying now, but now he's not on the left anymore.

Why?

'Cause he was early.

See this is where this motherfucker crossed the line.

What the hell?

Jimmy Dore had me on to talk about North Korea, bro, and he was open to that shit.

His co-host wasn't.

But

Yeah, this guy's a joke, bro.

He said Jimmy Dore got crushed.

Jimmy Dore laps the fuck out of Young Turks.

This guy's racist against non-liberals.

Oh, dude.

Yeah, he's there.

Bro, this is a racist.

This guy's racist.

Fuck this.

He said, nobody thinks Jimmy Dora's on the left anymore.

Yeah, well.

They will once the real left takes its rightful place, which is us coming attack us going, yeah, we didn't really, we didn't realize that you're saying, no, don't crush them, just let them fester and pretend that they're the real left.

No, we don't do that.

You're not going to say stupid shit and you're going to try to punch us in the face.

We're going to punch you back, not on our behalf, on behalf of Democratic voters who you are lying about.

The Democratic voters do not agree with you.

They agree with us.

So I've pay for you.

Fuck the Democratic voters, fuck you, and send in Wagner Roop.

I'm not going to let you lie and pretend the Democratic voters are on your side because you're a fucking liar and you're not on your side.

You agree the Democratic voters are on my side.

I don't care what the Democratic voters are on, whichever side they're on right now.

We've lost the plot.

We've completely lost the plot because now the conversation is about like the serfs or majority report.

And I think that's a completely strategy.

That's who he's defending Democratic voters.

The guys who like support Ukraine, Nazis.

Um I don't really feel like we should make alliances with Nazis and fascists.

Sorry, Jank.

You're far right, extreme right-wing fucking friends.

Need an Areznik win video game.

Grifter's on the left attack.

I'm a grifter.

I think Cedar is a grifter.

I disagree.

Okay, oh, by the way, you said, oh, all of a sudden, you're defending Cedar.

When he calls me a grifter, you don't defend.

First of all, I've never.

How is Sam Cedar on the left, but not Jimmy Door?

Jimmy Dore is far to the left of Sam Cedar.

Him call you a grifter.

He's called me every name in the book.

Okay, he's a low-rank grifter.

No, no, no, I'll tell you.

I'll tell him right now.

When we were in Vegas together, we were in the same network.

He starts attacking Jimmy Door.

And I say, Cut the shit out.

I agree with you, not Jimmy, but you're attacking him in a way that is over the top and totally unnecessary and counterproductive.

You know what Sam said to me?

Sam said, Oh, he has a bigger audience than me.

So if I do that, I'm going to siphon off his audience.

You know why I siphon off?

Because I'm right and he is wrong.

And the audience deserves to hear my truth.

So, yeah, but you agree.

But you agree with me.

And I told him not to do it.

But you agree with him that Jimmy Doerr is.

No, no, this is pre-Jimmy going full right-wing, full lunatic.

Okay, but.

Wow.

That particular issue they were debating about, I agree with Sam and not Jimmy.

How is Jimmy right-wing?

I don't mind him saying I don't agree with Jimmy.

What I minded is him saying, oh, Jimmy is terrible and he intended to blah, blah, blah, blah.

He disagrees.

He disagrees with Jimmy Dore on this particular issue.

He says, I don't even remember, it's irrelevant.

But what he says is he literally told me, I try to take other people's audience by getting into their basically next to their algorithm, right?

So if you die like that, what's his bad intent?

You're saying if he's if you deem him right.

Bro, this whole shit is crazy.

Like, why don't you just fight each other in real life?

I mean, you should attack him.

But if you deem him left-wing, you should let him lie about you.

Can you let him call you every name in the book?

You should let him pretend he represents the left when he doesn't represent.

Jimmy Dore is not right-wing.

You should let him trick people into thinking that the Democrats are super unpopular, that the left-wing is super unpopular.

No, I'm not going to let him trick people into thinking that.

Okay, listen.

Sam Cedar or any number of different left-wing content creators have no bearing on the actual policies that the Republican right dude are implementing.

No, they don't.

They don't.

You're out of your mind.

No, no, no.

Here is a 2019 say on tape that transgender detainees should get surgery if they're undocumented members.

She said, Because she spent whole time in hostility fish, because there was enormous shit.

There was enormous pressure from the radical left to say, Oh, yeah, you got to be pro-transgender detainee immigrant surgery.

You have to, you have to, otherwise, you're not left enough.

And she's an idiot.

She doesn't have any thoughts in her head.

She got to be aware of that.

Okay, I'll adopt that position.

And it was because of the extreme left that she adopted that position.

She's an empty vessel.

You are literally attributing the consistent thing that you also.

Jank literally made a tweet recently where he was like, I can't believe what's going on.

It's like a breath of fresh air.

The establishment was defeated.

When Trump won, we're in the populist jungle now.

It's like bro, it's 2024.

This was true in 2016.

I just I just found out about a guy named Nick Land!

And I'm all the CCRU, I totally get it now!

I'm freaking b I bought this new cryptocurrency called Ethereum!

It's like jank, it's like at five thousand dollars now.

You know, I bought Ethereum at $70.

No, you won't believe me.

But I did.

I bought Ethereum at $70.

I paid $70 for my Ethereums each.

I didn't get a lot of them.

But I got

I got Ethereum coins for seventy dollars a pop.

Agree that comes.

How much did I buy not enough?

But fuck.

I was early to this shit, man.

There's a bad politician with bad instincts and did not have a good way to communicate what she would have done differently for trans people to majority report and any number of different like extreme leftist outlets that literally get a fraction of the views that I get in this in this regard.

Like no disrespect to them.

But like all of us combined do not have the same motion.

You're talking about extreme leaders.

You never fight them, so nobody knows.

Everybody thinks you're extreme left.

Everybody thinks that you're the woke left extraordinaire, right?

So like, and why do they think that?

Do you know that you don't agree?

But they think that because you don't actually ever fight.

Yes, they do.

You don't delineate it.

The reality is the way that people are presented by others ends up changing the perception that they have in the minds of a lot of people that are not simply just not paying attention.

I come at it from a much more understanding point of view.

And I understand that there is a large tent of people with a diversity of different opinions.

And there are moments where I will yell at a chatter.

Do these people not realize that we are the left wing?

We are the left.

We're literally the left wing now.

Who are these weird right-wing freaks?

These guys are weird right-wing freaks.

All right.

We're the left wing.

They're not even part of the conversation anymore, right?

That in terms of the finite amount of time we have spending, I find it.

Like, they're not in the thick of it.

They're not debating about the Bolsheviks and shit like we are.

They're not even part of the conversation.

They're out of it.

Productive to spend it focusing on the actual people who hold the levers of power rather than people who I'm aligned with almost entirely, whether it be yourself with some very major disagreements or even Sam Cedar and the like.

That's you're making sound like I'm talking about Ethereum.

This is a signal.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

I don't touch crypto.

I don't fucking touch crypto.

I don't touch crypto after 2017.

I don't even touch it.

I haven't gone near it.

'Cause I'm not an idiot.

Don't fucking buy Ethereum.

Don't buy anything.

Fucking rob banks in a video game.

Don't fucking do this dumb.

Well, do it if you know what you're doing.

I don't.

So I can't recommend anything to you.

No, presenting yourself as an intellectual as the opposite of these people serves no purpose.

It just only makes you look like you're the moderate voice in here and they're the extreme voices and whatever.

But it doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter.

Just make your argument and move on and focus on the things that do matter.

Because they're the ones that.

So because look, because intent either is hosting, intent matters.

Look, you know how many people disagree with me and Young Turks hosts.

So I had this giant transact debate we were having about the trans ad with Jordan Yule and with Jules Sulzzdev.

Okay.

There's the one time I get it wrong, Jules.

I love those guys.

Francesca and our network.

I disagree with them all the time.

We have debates on here.

There's nothing wrong with those debates.

That's wonderful.

No problem at all.

Where I draw the line is bad intent.

Yeah, when I have disagreements with any number of different people on any other networks, I say, ultimately, I don't care.

We are aligned in this fight.

We care about protecting undocumented immigrants.

We care about protecting trans people.

And I'm not going to pay too much attention to this because ultimately, I don't give a shit if there are disagreements.

I have disagreements with people.

Wow, these are literally Libtards in a Libtard coalition.

That's what it is.

My friends, all the time.

Ultimately, if I think so, we have like self-proclaimed MLs who act like they're really hardcore MLs, but this is actually the community they're signaling to and drawing from.

Just like straight up Libtard Democrats who all like, yeah, we kind of disagree a little bit on imperialism and, you know, Ukrainian Nazis, but ultimately we're for trans rights.

That's the most important thing.

The fuck?

I think someone is almost entirely aligned with me on a lot of these key issues, then I see no reason.

And they call you a Nazi and a grifter.

You say, okay, it doesn't matter.

People call me.

Yes.

Yes.

Okay, people call me all of it.

I think it's ridiculous.

But if it's coming from the right, if it's coming from the right, then you can use that as an opportunity to show why they're from ridiculous.

No, but let's get back to politics.

So why does anybody think we're extreme, right?

Why does anybody think the left is extreme?

Because they have a whole bunch of hosts that they could point to, and thought leaders and people online, myself included, right, that they point to and they go look at these extreme positions that they have.

So that taints the rest of the left.

And that is counterproductive.

It's unfair and it's inaccurate.

So stop pretending the most extreme positions are the most left-wing positions.

They are not.

They're the least representative of the left.

I think hyper-focusing on what the right is considering to be the most extreme positions is only giving it more air for no reason.

The Miracle Independence is an election.

It's like Libtards live in a different reality.

They're actually the scum of the earth and they don't even live in our reality.

It's crazy.

Losing that money.

This is why I said this is a system.

They're like, they're like, oh, they don't even know what normal people think.

I've never met a fucking normal person who likes these people, who's not a fucking, like.

I have never come across a person at any gym in America who thinks like this.

I've never, I don't really granted, I don't really talk to people at the gym, but like I'm just saying, like, I've never come across these people in real life outside of college campuses and like professional institutionalized settings where they're being paid to be libtards, where you're like identifying someone to your left that is more extreme than you to show everybody how moderate you are.

And there's no reason to show them how moderate Democratic voters are.

There's no reason to brainwash people into thinking that Democratic voters are lunatics.

Who, by the way, let's argue this.

They say that no crime is no reason to do that.

There's no reason.

Do I know why there's no reason to do that?

Donald Trump is president.

You never see Republicans do that, even if they do actually disagree.

Even if they do actually disagree, it doesn't matter.

There's no reason.

There's no reason to ever turn around and be like, I disagree with you.

You're 100% wrong on this.

So let's go to California.

So you say it doesn't matter what you're saying.

You can keep going.

We'll talk about crime in a second.

Go ahead.

All right.

So, look, guys.

Post-perth abortion.

I want to clarify something that's important.

There are three different.

So I agree on all that.

And under no circumstances would I be naively think, oh my God, I think Holly and Gates are just the most pure people, and so is Trump.

And we should vote for them and hope for the best, cross your fingers, right?

And oh, we should trust them on everything.

No, but when they say, I agree with you, I have a revolutionary idea.

Say yes.

Okay.

So let's see if we can cut the Pentagon.

Are they likely to cut the Pentagon?

No.

But now that they've said that they might cut the Pentagon when they don't cut the Pentagon, it creates a little bit of pressure for them, right?

I don't think it does.

That's my point.

But that's what Jimmy Dorse said fucking 10 years ago.

We'll see, but I don't think that they're going to cut it.

They're just lying because they're better room readers than the Democratic Party is.

But you agreed that when I said that and Elon agreed and Don Jr.

agreed, the reason they agreed is not because of me, they give a shit about me.

It's because there were thousands and thousands of right-wing populists who said, yeah, right?

But ultimately, it's going to be business as usual, is my point.

And the Republicans and right-wing populists see that, hey, it might turn out that Trump is just as full of shit as the Democrats.

And that was the whole point of supporting Bernie in 2015.

Not because anyone had faith in Bernie.

And if you did, you were retarded.

Sorry.

But that's why.

Because they were like, look, yeah, he's not going to, we don't trust him, but it's a process.

You know?

At this stage, I think it's literally, and it was what I responded to you with as well.

It's like that Republicans at least understand that it's good to lie to win elections.

Whereas Democrats have completely even dropped that principle where they're like, or that's not even true.

They lie about the lamest shit possible.

They're like, they're not going to do a $50,000 tax credit for startups.

But why the are you lying about that?

Lie about healthcare instead.

If you're going to lie about something, lie about something good.

And the Democrats.

I don't agree with that.

The Democrats are literally, they've given up on lying about good shit that they're not going to follow through on in an effort to win elections because they're just playing the role of controlled opposition at this point, where I think they're comfortable losing to Trump.

They're comfortable fundraising off of Trump's victory.

They're comfortable not having to legislate.

So I slightly disagree with that.

Well, San ignores how there's a uniparty.

He ignores that.

He just ignores it.

It's a degree because what it is in the old days, we just have a uni party.

Corporate Republicans and corporate Democrats.

They all pretended to have fighters.

Oh, how did I fucking predict that?

It's good cop, bad cop.

And the corporate media would come in and go, oh my God, they disagree so much.

Oh, my God.

Bipartisanship broke out.

They've agreed to tax tests for the rich.

Everybody celebrate bipartisanship is so good.

And corporate Republicans and Democrats would go, yay, bipartisanship.

Help the rich, help the rich, right?

So that's a game that was played for almost my whole life.

Then Bernie came along and said, no, this is bullshit.

All they're doing is helping the rich.

That's my wing of the Democratic Party, economic populists.

I love that.

That is true.

That was the first brick through the window of the establishment, right?

Rhetorically, metaphorically, politically.

And then Trump came along and Trump realized what you're saying, which is, oh, populism works.

Look at Bernie, look at this.

But it came to it at this age.

He was, yeah, he was already, I think it was organically there.

He was organic.

He was an outsider.

He's always had like unique opinions, unique positions.

But what he did was he tested all these positions because he would sometimes even in the same appearance or in the same speech would say two things that diverse from one another were the opposite of one another.

And he would see what the crowd cheered more, right?

So he realized, oh, these are the populist positions the right-wing likes.

And he went in that direction.

And hence, and we've talked about this for two years.

The example I always use is a guy in West Virginia in 2016 election.

One of our reporters interviewed.

Go ahead.

No, no, it's a Rando.

He's a guy who's doing actually a strike for higher wages at Waffle House.

He was leading that strike.

And he said, look, why do people hear why are they supporting Trump over Hillary?

Because Hillary says all the coal mining jobs are gone and they're never coming back.

And Trump tells us that he's going to bring back all the coal mining jobs.

Now, we know he's full of shit, but at least he has the decency to lie to us, right?

So that goes exactly to your point.

That's right.

So when I don't want the politicians to lie at all, but that's all they ever do, right?

So for the Democrats, they thought, oh, no, Trump's a liar, but our guys are angels.

That's so naive.

That's so naive.

It hurts the brain.

I don't know anybody in this community that thinks that.

No, no, no, no, no.

I'm saying mainstream media.

We are the activist left that is too woke for and tarnishing the good reputation of the Democratic Party.

Yeah.

In your estimation?

Probably.

I disagree.

All right.

Well, and you should tell me what name to call you guys.

But so Trump.

So, and I would say to the right-wing guys, if you think that the establishment Democrats are obviously lying, did it ever curry that Trump might also be lying?

It's the same exact thing I tell the Democrats.

Trump's always lying.

Did it ever curry that Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden might also be lying?

Yeah.

Did it ever occur to you?

I'm not saying you, I'm saying they're like the establishment Democrats, right?

Did it ever occur to you that maybe Joe Biden is too old?

Maybe he does have cognitive decline.

And right-wing, I'm asking you the same thing.

Did it ever occur to you that maybe Donald Trump also lies?

And he lies a lot.

And he's trying to give you guys what he thinks you want so he can win the election.

But if you hold him accountable after the election, I'm here for it.

Okay.

I just don't think they're going to hold him accountable and you let him lie to you and all he does is corporate tax customs again.

Well, then, okay, then you're just as much a sucker as the establishment democracy.

Yeah, these guys don't understand.

They don't get it, bro.

They don't get it.

They don't get it.

They don't get it.

They're never going to get it.

Um

Ah, like they don't get it, they don't get it.

You know what Jengs problem is?

It's like he's always trying to sell people shit.

That's honestly what it is.

He's like, always.

No, no, no, listen.

You don't fucking get it, bro.

Literally, like instead of saying Trump is like a bad guy and he's gonna betray you.

This is all you need to tell people.

Just be like, Yo, he's a clone.

It's like, not even the real Trump.

He's a clone this time.

They'll be like, oh, really?

I haven't thought of that.

It's like, bro, you don't even know how to talk to people.

You don't even understand how people think about politics.

It's crazy.

They're not going to do that.

I don't think they're going to do that.

Maybe I'm wrong, but they didn't do it the first time, and they're not going to do it this time either.

And I don't even think that there is any sort of real machine.

Just say he's like blackmailed.

Is that you can do when you make it personal and you're like, no one's going to, nobody, you're not tuned in.

You don't understand the appeal of Trump if that's what you're going for.

Sheen in this country is a direct consequence of the labor force and labor unions being gutted out year over year by corporate back Democrats and Republicans alike.

That there's no mechanism of pushback to begin with.

And you can do like pussy hat wearing women's marches or whatever, but ultimately it doesn't really change the trajectory of the country.

And there's no better demonstration of both uniparty and the inability of either party to actually respond to any sort of public pressure was most was best demonstrated by the Palestinian, by the pro-Palestinian movement in this country that was massive.

And what the f did the Democrats do?

They went back, they went to the colleges and they're like, you're all Hamas.

You love Hamas.

You're all backed by Iran.

And you know what?

There isn't enough faith in the people.

I think that's what it is.

Like, look.

People voted for Trump for obvious reasons.

You don't need to trick them into not liking Trump.

Okay, when a world war happens or whatever is going to happen under Trump, just be real, man.

It's just about being real, straight up.

I'm saying this as a Lacanian manipulator.

Like, you just got to be real about shit.

You don't have to manipulate all these psychologies or whatever, you just gotta be real.

Uh the worst thing you can do is treat Trump like an Oedipal father who you have to

You know, oh, he betrayed me, he did this, he did that.

Look, the president doesn't matter that much, all right?

Um, you need to you need to change.

People don't understand something, all right?

You need to change the narrative itself.

Instead of accepting the narrative framework that Trump is the primary subject of American politics, you have to change the narrative itself.

You have to change the framing.

You can't just accept that and say, oh, I hate Trump or he's a traitor or he's going to betray you or he's conning you.

He's a con man.

No, you just have to say something like, it doesn't matter who the president is.

You know?

Just be real.

And then they started arresting campus demonstrators.

Not only did they arrest them, but they added significant penalties to demonstrating on college campuses, and the Uni Party continued.

So I don't think that people give a shit.

I mean, look at BLM.

Black Lives Matter protests happened, massively consequential, supposedly happened globally.

It was supposed to be truly impactful.

The Democrats did what you wanted, which is they had their Sister Soldier moment.

For those of you who don't know, they basically said, We are not this.

These guys are terrorists.

They're too far left.

They're too woke.

What happened as a consequence of that?

Joe Biden won.

Joe Biden, no, we're talking about the Democratic Party.

Joe Biden did the Sister Soldier, and he won.

I don't agree with you that I'm doing a Sister Soldier.

I'm saying the Democrat was doing it in reverse.

Do you see the Democratic Party?

Do you see what I'm saying when I say the Democratic Party said, We're determining in the limited time that we have to not necessarily get to the heart of the problem with this groundswell of demonstrations that took place instead of addressing the root cause of this and saying this is our policy prescription and that there has to be some real changes made, they said, Those guys are extreme.

We love funding the police.

We're going to fund the police extra hard.

And that the Republicans don't actually want to fund the police as hard as we want to fund the police.

And while Joe Biden won by 42,000 votes over key states, it ultimately did not change the dynamic in favor of the Democratic Party.

They completely dropped that.

They completely dropped the police reform.

They built it, can't wait as a countermeasure in the same way that the Republican Think Tank Heritage Foundation had originally created Obama's ACA as a countermeasure towards socialized medicine.

They built up something else, just like Joe Biden said, Oh, I'm going to do the public option, which was simply just a countermeasure to Medicare for all to say, We have a solution.

It's a better solution, backed by corporate media, and pumped it, even though he broke lip tards are crazy.

I'm sorry, I wanted to go in this rooting for Jank, but.

Ah, it's just like these like LA lip tards.

Just like, he's like, they're all struck.

I don't know what's going on.

What's going on?

I don't know what's going on.

We're trying to find out what's going on.

They had no reason or no interest in genuinely advancing even the public option.

The Democrats said, We're going to do it, can't wait.

Okay.

It was significantly limited.

And then they spent the entire time saying, These guys, these radical leftists, these radical BLM protesters, they are not us.

They're different than us.

Did the public actually look at that and go, wow, the Democrats are so reasonable.

They want to fund the police.

They are not.

They're sitting here trying to figure their shit out.

And we are literally living in 2078.

Like, bro, I was here in like 2001 when I was like five years old.

All right, this is crazy.

We are so far ahead of these people.

It's fucking crazy.

It's scares me.

It actually scares me.

I'm like, what?

This was me like 20 years ago.

Being the party.

No, they didn't.

They just saw Democrats still in the same exact way.

People who just had really good points.

Okay.

No, it's the same people.

They're like sitting here trying to figure their shit out.

And like, I'm already here.

I'm like, bro, you realize, like, we're on a Chinese spaceship right now, right?

And like all of this is an illusion and we're just heading straight for communism.

No, I'm not conflating issues.

I'm complaining the same, I'm explaining the same principle that Democrats, the same trap that Democrats fall into every single time.

Pete Buddhaj actually, ironically, a really solid take on this, even though I don't like him at all and I'm terrified of him.

Here's what he said: no matter what we do, whether we want the public auction or whether we're Medicare for all, Republicans are going to always call us socialists.

So at a certain point, you should just advance your agenda and move on.

They're going to call us socialists whether we're in favor of that or not in favor of that.

So just do good policies.

That is the first and last time I've ever agreed with Pete Buddha.

So let me break it down.

So I think there's three wings of the Democratic Party.

Oh, it's such like discourse jibber babble, commentary babble.

There's the establishment Democrats or corporate Democrats, same thing.

We can call them establishment guys.

Okay.

You know, I don't believe in any of this.

I believe in Wagner Group.

I don't believe in this, like, oh, peep, peep, peep, booty, and the mayor of.

And I believe in getting a tank and just fucking bulldozing everything with a tank.

That's what I believe in.

Neither one of us agrees with that.

So then I think there is the economically populous wing that Bernie 2016 represented perfectly.

That's exactly where Anna and I are and generally Young Turks are.

But Young Turks, TYT is a network is broad and it has all the different types of Democrats.

Okay.

So then the last wing is what I'm struggling to find a word on.

He Bernie had a significant criminal justice reform in his agenda that I don't think you would agree with.

No, it depends on the criminal justice reform we're talking about.

It always depends.

So, and so the last wing is what I would call the extreme left, but you can come or identitarian left.

Sorry.

I'm just laughing about the future.

Like, these guys are going to be so surprised.

Word do you want to use?

Okay.

So when you go into elections, my whole lifetime, Democrats have done the thing that you were talking about, but they've done it largely about economic issues.

So the Republicans will say, oh, hey, what do you mean?

There's a crazy terrorist in the Rocky Mountains who freaking believes he's bringing back Tartaria and they're taking over towns and they got RPGs and they've freaking Wagner Group.

Cut defense.

Can you believe in your cut defense?

They're weak on defense.

And then Donnelly in Indiana, McCaskill in Missouri, etc., would come out and go, No way, man.

They said we're weak on defense.

And I'm not a normal dirtbag liberal that hates defense and is going to get you all killed.

Okay.

I'm just like Republicans, man.

I want to spend more on defense.

That is not a moderate position.

And that is not a position that agrees with the populist left.

That is not the position that establishment Democrats say, I am copying establishment Republicans.

That is a loser strategy.

Of course.

Total, utter loser strategy.

I'm going to be more corporate than you.

I'm going to fund the donors better than you.

I'm going to be more established than you.

You and I agree.

That's what the Democrats have done our whole lifetime.

And that is totally right.

Skippity dub, dub, dub, dub, dub.

Yes, yes, yes.

Skibbity dip, skippity dope.

I mean, that's what they do on every single issue that Republicans choose to make their majority dope, dub, dope, dope, dub.

Yes, yes, yes, yes.

Thank you, Kami for Robbie for the 20.

What's up, bro?

Thank you, bro.

Appreciate you.

Your point.

And I think the attitude shift and the the territory that they've lost on the territory that they've voluntarily uh given up on in terms of social progress, in terms of social issues, is is proof of this.

That's what I mean.

So Republicans will always make issues.

Republicans were angry.

I think this conversation sucks 'cause it's just a meta conversation.

It's not Jenk actually showing balls.

I thought Jenk was going to be like, no, this is establishment stuff.

Here are the NGOs, George Soros.

No, he's going to just sit here and talk about perceptions.

That media professionals such as yourself or politicians shouldn't just do that because it's unproductive and of that.

He lost because of COVID.

Elections are complicated, brother.

There's all those factors.

Bro, the fact they're having this debate means it's not even worth entertaining.

That's part of the factor.

That's crazy.

So that's what I'm getting.

So there's a difference between, oh, I'm going to out corporate Republicans.

I'm going to out military industrial complex Republicans and saying, no, I don't agree with you.

It's so crazy being like the only actual communists in America because we are a really different.

We're very like unique.

We're not part of the far right.

Um, and we don't really like fit in with them to be honest.

Like, we don't, they don't really understand.

The far right doesn't understand us, they just don't, right?

But, like, we don't, we live on a different planet than these people do, as well, right?

So, we're literally just.

A comple We are the Bolsheviks of America.

I don't know what to tell you.

We're a completely different political faction.

Completely different.

Like we don't get along with any of these people.

With the most extreme left-wing positions of DePaul, there's no reason to mention it.

No, there's no reason to mention it.

Perfectly good to know.

The reason why I'm saying there's no reason to mention it is because if you remember, I think immediately, like in the beginning of the Biden administration, there was a messaging bill that came out that Democrats voted on, including Rokon.

They were like, We are not a socialist nation.

You remember that?

When Rokan and a bunch of people, this is a capitalist nation.

This is not a socialist nation.

What's the problem?

Everybody needs to see me on screen.

Is my face that beautiful?

You have to see me?

Oh man, I got a headache.

This is almost over.

So ever, right?

It was amazing to be able to Democrats voted on for no fing reason.

Why do they vote on it?

Because they wanted to do what you're saying.

They don't agree.

They aren't socialists.

I have juice, I have a juice box.

For children from Costco.

Um

and they're only thirty five calories each.

And

I'm really craving it, so.

I'm not going to end the stream, though.

First and foremost.

Just letting you know, like, that's what I'm thinking about.

Important, right?

Yeah, that's.

But they also look fucking thirsty as hell.

I want to introduce a bill.

A bill highlights it.

That's dumb.

That's like doing a bill that's highlighted.

I think highlights it as well.

I think Skogi or Juice.

No, because I have to pee as well.

So first I have to take a piss, then I can have my juice.

Highlighting it.

Men highlighted it.

At that point, there's a 24-hour reel.

I see an MSMC of 2020.

Expert, you're not going to deflect your way out of that Haas.

Deflection doesn't work.

Expert PR, absolutely.

Stop saying Haas.

Stop.

It's really weird.

is deflecting or in many instances not even responding or in many instances just waiting out the media cycle to end when you highlight it yourself you're basically telling people more people oh this thing does exist and ooh i'm actually kind of scared of this thing they did do those things you have to say you have to cut them off same with the black should have with black matter rallies same should have with black wise matter rallies yes yes no they did do it for the black wise matter rallies well they're like oh fry them up like bacon they would like focus on the socks that

People were wearing the head pigs on it.

They always do it.

It is a formative part of the reactionary media strategy, which is identify something that looks out of place and either massage the narrative to make it seem like this is the entire belief structure of the entire movement, just like with Israel.

I'm using Israel because we are completely in agreement on that.

Where they will say, Yeah, they don't, you don't even understand how these people roll.

He's like overanalyzing it.

Every single person is an anti-Semite.

It's a smear campaign to actually deflect away from the actual normal points, the very popular points that people are actually making.

Fortunately, that's a good analogy to us.

We agree on the substance of what Israel is doing is wrong.

But when I condemn Hamas and Hezbollah every time, and so you would say that that's probably not a correct strategy.

Whereas, yeah, I think you're totally wrong.

It's not.

I think that, first of all, the violence is not the answer.

I agree.

I agree.

And I.

Man, the disconnect from the real world is crazy by these people.

It's like so crazy.

And I have also openly stated that there were atrocities that took place on October 7th that are totally avoidable.

And they were avoidable by not having apartheid that people, when you back them into a corner, they're going to show them that there's no way out of it.

They're going to inevitably try and fight their way out of it in that process of room.

And that standard of violence is set by the colonial occupation.

It's disappointing.

And a lot of that, while saying Hamas is wrong to do it, has well is wrong to do it.

And then you don't leave it there.

Then you explain, wait, Israel did 40 times what Hamas did.

So that's the thing.

Ultimately, my point is that regardless of how many times you have done that, and I've done it as well, it doesn't matter.

People still say you love, you love these guys.

You're no, no, people.

Look, it's impossible to tell what everybody's perception is.

Are there some people who call us anti-Semite, blah, blah, blah, no matter what?

Of course.

Is that a big percentage?

It might be a pretty large percentage, right?

But are there people who go, no, I get it.

I get what Jenkins saying.

Yeah, Hamas and has a lot of new terrorism.

But wait, if I'm upset about that, and they can't.

This guy's such a fucking bitch pretending to be like a revolutionary, like left-winger.

Fuck you for calling us right-wing, motherfucker.

I thought Hassan, you know, I don't watch Hassan, guys.

You know, I don't fucking watch any of this shit.

So I thought Hassan is like so radical and he's like whatever.

And he's just a fucking Democrat.

He grandstands and calls us like far right or whatever.

It's just like how the why did the media call that Romanian guy far right?

He's not far right.

I should be upset.

The Romanian up-and-coming guy who's running for president killed 15,000 kids.

Far right is a term that has no meaning when the media use it.

It has none, none, no meaning at all.

The other point I want to make is that there was very extreme sentiment that the Republicans engaged in outright lie, as a matter of fact, the Patients Are Eating Cats and Docs narrative that came out of Springfield, Ohio.

It was a very, very big thing that led to mass fake bombing threats that were made towards Springfield, Ohio.

Right.

But I mean, that's a situation, again, where I would fight Trump and rip his face off on that.

Are you saying we should just deflay from that?

No, my point is Donald Trump successfully was like, now he either didn't talk about it at all or it instantly used them mercilessly.

I know, but you don't understand.

The media did cover it non-stop.

The media said, you did this, you did this.

And it did not matter.

That level of shamelessness is what is necessary.

Now we're talking about a teacher election.

That level of shamelessness is necessary at a time when there is complete political polarization.

And what is at the root of my argument against caving and capitulating to right-wing framing, regardless of whether you even agree with the position of capitulating when it isn't?

I'm agreeing to my own position and a position agree more with.

You and I are at all.

I agree with 70% of Americans.

Because I believe.

Especially when you actually genuinely believe it.

Yeah, we're the far right.

The far right.

Jackson's far right.

Bro, you don't even know what you're talking about.

Because I believe that, like, on the issue of immigration.

Okay, well, let's talk about that.

All right, last thing.

And then you're going to tell me what I'm going to do.

The incredibly right-wing bill that was presented on October 5th, 2023 by the Democratic Party.

Do you agree with that bill?

The border bill?

Remind me, remind me.

The border bill that Joe Biden put forward and said, Oh, in 2023, that'll be the Trump bill.

Yeah, he was like the Trump order bill.

So there's parts that I agree with and parts I don't agree with.

These days, I agree with Remain in Mexico.

Yeah.

Wow.

Okay.

And why is that?

Because look, they're saying, hey, I've got an asylum case.

I don't want to do the right-wing position.

I don't care about your asylum case.

Get the f ⁇ out of here.

I'm not letting anyone in.

That's illegal under an international law.

And it's not the moral right position.

But there's no, that doesn't mean that we have to allow them into the country and then release them into the country and then hope that they come back.

Now, most of them do, or 80% of people do come back for their hearings.

So it's overhyped as to how much cash and release is the problem.

But a lot don't, right?

So if they say, but there's no reason not to say, okay, stay in Mexico.

Okay, stay in Mexico.

But we're going to have your asylum here.

The far right just means pro-Putin.

We're going to have it as quickly as we can.

And I would order so many more judges to expedite those hearings.

So far.

Question for you here is, do you think that undocumented immigrants constitute a grave national security threat to America?

No, I think that the crime from undocumented immigrants is overhyped.

But you said the law doesn't work for eight years.

If you turn around now and say, okay, so this, again, a good example of how we disagree on this and how we would handle it differently, God bless.

And I will also say, by the way, you see how Haas and I have agreed and disagreed for hours here, right?

But the reason why we're not mad at each other, the reason why things aren't soap opera is because neither one of us questioned each other's intent.

When people on the left disagree, can we just call it a disagreement instead of saying somebody's agriculture or somebody?

Dude, you guys are not on the left.

What the fuck are you talking about?

Bro, this is crazy.

This is crazy.

Oh man, how cooked?

This is the left.

No, it's not.

This is cooked.

This is the fucking far right.

Damn.

Honestly, the MAGA communism thing I did, fucking genius.

Like, not to toot my own horn.

It was so genius.

It was like the smartest, one of the smartest things I've ever done.

Because, like, I take for granted how much that's distinguished us from these people at this point.

Like, oh my God.

That was genius.

Like, my understanding of how neoliberalism warped the so-called political spectrum to the point where, like, nothing is clear anymore, and there is no actual real political spectrum that's established, and it's all up for grabs.

And to actually have a left wing, you have to just go and take it.

It's not already here.

It's fucking genius.

Bro

Fuck you Lip Tards.

This has actually restored my confidence a lot.

I thought we were up against some difficult competition and we're not.

We are actually

Okay, this has restored my faith.

I

We're locked in, we're locked in, we got this, we got this.

All the shit they say about us, everything they say, Larushai, this and that, Lonely Walk, what's up?

They're being invaded by aliens right now.

They don't know who we are, they can't pin us down, they don't recognize who we are, and that's why there's all this confusion and I get it.

And we're locked in.

We're locked in.

Okay.

Alright guys.

See you tomorrow.

See you later, guys.

Bye-bye.