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Thank you. and you know All right, guys, I need your help really quick with something for some reason my upload speed is um really

it's like not even past one uh megabit or whatever um i don't know why that is i pay for a lot more

upload speed and every time I'm

testing it, it's like

really low. So this is not fixed.

I don't think this is going to be fixed.

But how do I, how do I,

what am I supposed to do about that?

I pay for really high upload speed

but I just tested

it. My upload speed is less than one

megabit.

Does anyone have any...

You probably can't fucking hear this,

right?

Yeah, what the fuck is the point

probably can't even fucking hear this

you can hear

all right

get a Wi-Fi

I'm not fucking using Wi-Fi.

Shut the fuck up about Wi-Fi.

I have to update my driver.

Okay, what driver?

For what?

What driver for what?

My driver for what? What driver for what? My driver for what?

No, you can't hear me because you're 25. My Ethernet driver.

Is that on my PC?

That's on my PC?'s on my PC yeah we're really

far behind all right

super delayed

tell me is that

is that something I do on my PC

or do I do that for my box, my Wi-Fi box or whatever?

Device manager.

All right.

Hold on.

This might F the stream, but I don't really care.

I'm just going to, I just need to fix this.

Straight up.

I need to fucking fix this.

Um.

All right. is the Ethernet

It's the Ethernet thing, right?

Update driver, you sure that I...

Ethernet... Oh, Ethernet controller.

Are you sure it's called the Ethernet controller? I don't have Ethernet. Oh, Ethernet controller. Are you sure it's called the Ethernet controller? I don't have Ethernet controller. Are you sure that's what it's called? Yeah, it'll cut the stream, but it's worth it. Are you sure it's called Ethernet Controller?

There's no buffering right now?

Yeah, but it's going to come back, all right?

Yeah, it's called Ethernet Control.

I don't have Ethernet Controller. My router might need to update.

Alright, well, to be clear, it's just my upload speed.

So my download speed is at the usual number that it's at,

but my upload speed for some reason is like 30 times lower than what it should be right is it low on all devices yes actually thank you for reminding me of that no No, it's actually something that's low on all devices. So I'm actually not sure if what you're saying is correct. I don't think what you're saying is correct because it's true on all of my devices, not just my computer.

Sometimes it's an issue with my ISP and not just my hardware.

Is your upload always that low? No, the thing it shouldn't be uh all right

all right um wow this is a nightmare this is a really big nightmare all right uh then it's your isp all right tested higher before yeah it shouldn't it shouldn't be doing this.

Okay, hold on.

Okay. all right uh i got to do this some other time i can't log into the wifi router right now um yeah it's my wifi router though router, though. Contact my ISP. Well, I can't fucking do that today. I'd have to do that tomorrow.

Something, uh, yeah, there's a bottleneck on my router. It's so bizarre something is uploading

without your

knowledge

yeah

tell me about it

tell me about it

it's fucking feds

right

fucking feds right

fucking feds right

they're like uploading all my information and they're uploading everything why don't they

fucking set up their own wifi network

yeah no buffering at all yeah just wait though there's gonna be buffering i'm just it's guaranteed

but yeah something or someone is uploading a lot of information 24 7 because this is always taking up my upload speed.

Is someone using your internet?

It's not that someone's using my internet,

it's that feds, let's just be clear about what's going on,

are constantly uploading information

using my Wi-Fi.

I know that

they're listening to me and they have everything

tapped, but they're so

fucking primitive that they're

using my internet

to do the upload

to like, you know, constantly surveil me

or whatever they're doing.

And they're using my internet,

which means my live streams are getting fucked up

because the feds are stealing my upload bandwidth.

Fuck.

Log out of your Netflix.

You need to shut the fuck up.

You're an idiot who doesn't know anything about anything.

All right?

If you think that Netflix takes up your upload speed you're a fucking moron up you it literally is what it sounds like upload speed so when I'm in the camera talking to you guys I'm uploading myself to the world, right?

So, um, they are uploading everything I'm saying.

They probably have fucking cameras in my toilet.

They probably fucking have everything.

And they're like constantly using my internet to upload it to Langley to their CIA servers. You broke fat fucks. Use fucking Starlink. Stop fucking using my internet to be fucking peeping-Tom freaks.

Use Elon Musk's fucking Starlink and get the fuck off of my internet.

They've wasted a lot of time, guys.

A lot of our time, they've wasted it, okay?

Because these fat losers in Langley at the CIA need to get a fucking life.

Get a fucking life, you losers.

Notice so I'm not telling them to stop spying on me

Because they can't help that

I get that you can't help that

I get that you have to it's your job

But are you so broke that you have to use my fucking internet

That I pay $200 a fucking month for to do it using my upload speed.

They're primitive. They're so primitive. They're so fucking primitive.

Anyway, I wanted to watch Hassan versus Jank tonight. Hopefully we'll have time for that.

And I had many rants planned for tonight. And I don't want to jinx it and have everything get screwed up.

But, you know, wow, there's a lot of things i wanted to

mention guys every single day i'm going to be on ticot

live for at least five minutes because i have three days left I need to do that

to meet their requirement for hosting guests.

So if I ever feel like just going live on TikTok and like debating people,

I can't do that yet.

They're making me go live on seven separate days.

So if you get a notification that I'm live on TikTok,

you know, always check the Discord because it's not necessarily

an actual event.

I could just be leaving it there and doing it for the minimum five minutes or whatever.

Well, okay.

Anyway, that out of the way.

We're going to be watching Hassan versus Jank tonight. There's

a lot of interesting developments going on

in the so-called progressive space.

All right, we're going to do a thing that's

like from cyberpunk

where you know how they do interlinked i'm going to say

interlinked every five words and you guys are going to respond interlinked to confirm the stream

is still fine so let's test it right now interlinked all right interlinked.

And I'm going to do interlinked one, interlink two, just because they have to be different interlinked

when you think about it to really confirm it.

So I didn't think about that, but that's how we're going to do it. Anyway, stream on

telegram. Fandu Z-U-Z-Ye. Hello, brother. I know that we have a lot of viewers from China because

they're watching in China.

I don't speak Chinese, but I want to communicate this to you.

I am broke, and I have no money.

And I am a broke man. I would love to stream everywhere, right? But I need money.

And the CCP does not want to give me money

please go tell

Xi Jinping to give me money

and I will stream on

telegram every single day

every single

day

I need the CCP money. I know, I don't take it personally. I know they

literally can't because it'll be a diplomatic incident and I mean, it would be extremely bad for their, for their whatever.

User appreciate it.

And I would get in trouble and they don't want me to get in trouble, right?

But at least, like,

help me, you know,

I don't know.

Australistani, appreciate it.

No, let me tell you guys something real, though.

We have so many supporters in China, you have no idea.

You have no idea.

We have so many supporters in China that at this point there are

scammers impersonating us selling shit to Chinese audiences on behalf of our name,

ACP, and they're making money from it.

I don't know if you saw us.

That's like the tip of the iceberg of that whole industry.

We have gone so viral in China.

There's such an intense interest in us within China that I think, yes, the Chinese market is very big, long guy.

And I'm sure that if, you know, we sold things in China,

there would be great potential in that.

Well, it's of no concern for you guys,

but infrared has a channel in China, which has done... Even before ACP, that did pretty well.

And I do pretty well in general in China.

I get uploaded to Jackson's channel sometimes,

and my videos do very, very well.

So what I'm

going to do is I'm going to

Blackpack, what's up? I'm in talks

with some people and we're going to do

is have infrared

stuff for the channel,

infrared in China.

And, you know,

um,

I think,

you know,

there's,

there's many,

many opportunities there.

Um,

that'll make our lives easier in general

because at the end of the day in the United States

right now at least

I have a lot of things working against me

a lot of things working against me

Yellowstone what's up I have a lot of things working against me. Yellowstone, what's up?

I have a lot of things working against me here in the USA, right?

Now, Russia is a very interesting place.

And there is a lot of interest in us in Russia, but Russia is embroiled in its own conflict right now, which is between the Reds versus the whites.

And one of the reasons I don't think will ever be able to penetrate Russian audiences. Too much, too much, I'm saying,

is because we would at that point be intervening in this kind of conflict, right, On behalf of the Reds.

Now, we are with the Reds.

Don't get me wrong.

We're with the Reds.

100%.

Anything the Reds ask me,

you know, I'm a soldier, right?

I will support my Red comrades everywhere, and we're with the Reds.

But at this point, it would not be wise for them or for us if we're like they're stirring trouble

for Russia.

I mean, we don't want to cause a civil war.

We don't want to aggravate the flames of civil conflict within Russia.

We don't want to accelerate the social conflicts and cultural conflicts taking place there.

Amila, appreciate the 10.

So while we work very closely and we're collaborating with red forces in Russia,

we're not going to jump in the ring.

But China is very different, though,

because China is openly a communist state,

and so we're not really causing trouble in China by being very visible and very open.

We're not causing problems.

We're not causing trouble in the same way.

But there is a big red versus white conflict in russia taking place

discursively and um

like i said i don't know if i told you guys this i think i told you on ticot maybe but

oh canonist the australian chancellor appreciate you he sent the clip of me when O'Canonist, the Australian Chancellor,

appreciate you.

He sent the clip of me

when I was in the heat of the moment

when I was talking about,

you know,

um,

Rasputin

beating the Tsarina's cheeks or whatever.

Really bad taste thing that I said.

But it was very American as well.

Remember that.

And that was before I ever went to Russia.

And I, you know,

what can I say?

He was attacking me

on my own turf.

But I said that

very out of

context.

Um, very out of context. Well, anyway, they started doing something wicked, which is to say that this was a religious issue and their saints and so on.

And, well, in any case, they got it semi-viral in Russian telegram.

And... semi-viral in Russian telegram and they were

using it as ammunition to attack some of

our allies over there

and say this is who our allies associate

with.

Well,

hmm, I was only speaking as an

American who at that time

had zero relations to Russia.

I know that the issue of

the royal family is a sensitive

and contentious and it's an issue of the royal family is a sensitive and

contentious and

it's an emotional issue I understand

that there's emotions involved

um

the Zarina was a chast woman

okay I don't...

Listen.

You're taking things far too literally, all right?

I don't have any interest in the private life of the Zarina.

I don't have any interest or stake in that whatsoever.

What I said was basically a cage match trash talking just to wound my enemy, O'Cannon is the Australian,

because he was trying to tell me that I can't critique the

czar. And remind you that I had originally just said that I thought Nicholas was a weak

leader and that he fumbled all of Russia. He was a weak leader.

I said something very tame, and he got offended.

He said that what I said is blasphemy

and that all the clergy or whatever.

So I just doubled down like, what?

You're going to tell me I can't criticize the Russian czar

as an American

living halfway across the world

and the Tsar from 100 years ago, mind

you, circuit flex.

So to me it would be like

you know, talking

about

a pharaoh from Egypt

thousands of years ago.

But, you know, I guess,

you know, there's...

What pal pot?

What is Willow? What is what? What, what, like, what? What are these bots that I'm seeing? Like, what? Anyway, sorry, I'm getting distracted a lot by nonsense.

The czar.

Yeah.

So, but that's just because there's a red versus white conflict within russia but you know the bolsheviks did not

they didn't take it as far as i did verbally

so you know um but here's the thing. I would like to also say something. As an American, now this is the hill I'm going to die on. Okay, people are upset about the bad language I used about the Romanov family, right? Or the Tsar and his wife in particular. Why would I have no reason to attack the kids? I mean, it's nonsense. Well, here's some food for thought. And I'm going to say this. Okay, you want to do that? That's fine.

Okay, I'm an American communist.

I was born and raised in this country.

And, well,

communism is all I know and all I care about, right?

And that Australian vermin was attacking our people.

He was attacking Lenin, he was attacking the Bolsheviks. He was attacking Stalin.

So, I say that I'm guilty of getting even. That's it. Just getting even. Because that history is sacred to us as American communists.

Remember, our leaders, some of our leaders, are buried in the Kremlin necropolis from the American Communist Party back then, like Bill Haywood.

It said that William Foster is buried in Moscow.

I don't know if that's true.

He did die in Moscow.

John Reed is buried in the Kremlin Wall, Necropolis.

He wasn't necessarily a leader, but Bill Haywood is.

And so this is part of our political tradition.

And we are not going to tolerate in our country country as long as we are here and we have a

presence here insults to our tradition. So if you think that Nicholas is part of your tradition,

that's fine. We can have nuance about that. But we're not going to tolerate disrespect about the communist tradition. And we regard it as sacred. We regard it as a sacred tradition.

And that's not a joke. That's not something, you know.

So that's something I'd like to clarify, frankly. Anyway. Anyway, that conflict is happening in Russia, not on the front, but in Russia, in the interior of Russia, and it's a big problem.

It's a big problem that's going on.

Yeah, and I say to this day, you know, people need to understand something else.

I'm not like one of those people that justifies the killing of the Romanov family.

Plenty of leftists are doing that internationally.

I don't do that because the Bolsheviks were not responsible.

The Bolsheviks were not responsible for the killing of the Romanov family. There's no evidence. No evidence at all. They were responsible for that. Now, were they planning on executing Tsar Nicholas? I don't know. Maybe, or maybe they were going to deal with him like the Chinese dealt with the emperor, Puyi, who just got rehabilitated.

So we don't know.

We don't know what they were planning.

So let's be clear.

Let's be clear.

I am not the monster they're trying to paint me as.

Although I use very vulgar language.

No way, Volk. No fucking way. I refuse to believe that.

Oh, it's a rumor. Okay, it's a rumor.

I don't see, that's interesting.

That's interesting.

That's very, very interesting.

So, hmm.

That's very interesting.

Well, I don't know what to say about that uh huh right right anyway

okay guys

Hassan Piker

versus Jank

what do I say

to my Russian dad

he loves the Bullsex

Lenin and Stalin

so he saves Russia

he said that

Tsar Nicholas

was a whole leader

and the Romanos

were murdered by Jews in a Jewish

conspiracy. That is

very interesting

paradox

that is true for many Russians

actually as far as how they feel. That is true for many Russians, actually, as far as how they feel.

That is true for how many Russians feel.

It's this dualism.

Well, I, what do I say to him?

Well, I always was convinced by the argument that the Romanov dynasty, from the beginning, was the problem. From the beginning since Peter the Great, was not a Russian dynasty, but a kind of foreign, German, European occupation of Russia.

And that Ivan Grosny was the, like, well, not necessarily the last, but he was a true Russian Tsar,

and that the Romanov dynasty was a foreign usurper dynasty.

So I've always been convinced by that take on the issue.

So that's how i would respond okay guys uh... sleeper cell Okay, guys,

sleeper cell wants to go to bed.

You have work tomorrow.

Well, you think I want to be up this late?

You think I want...

We're all stuck now.

We're all stuck, all right?

You think I want to be this late?

And, you know, you say, Haas, have mercy.

Have mercy on your viewers.

You know, they're not going to be able to sleep.

And that's funny.

That's funny.

Because last time I checked, every single time I come on stream and talk about my insomnia,

everyone here tells me melatonin.

So I'm going to tell you the same thing, sleeper cell.

You're going to have to stay and then have melatonin.

And that'll magically fix all your problems.

Just have melatonin.

Just like how you guys tell me melatonin. when i tell you about my i need a sleep i

can't sleep i have insomnia all these problems you guys just say melatonin melatonin well i'm going to

tell you the same thing melatonin um look i don't know what to tell you right i didn't want to go to

go live this late but i did well i did because I, it's winter.

And, uh, I need to wake up.

How is melatonin gonna help with that?

You know, you know, if you're at work, what do you need sleep for? You know, like I said if you're at work

what do you need sleep for

you know like you say you know

sometimes I try to relate to you guys

but then I'm like

wait I go to the gym

every single day

doing back breaking

lifting and like intense cardio like really hard so i need sleep

physically and mentally but if you're at work you don't need more than one hour of sleep

what is your boss going to do fire you just literally sleep at the cash register

sleep at no sleep december

see look when i can't sleep it's really painful because when i can't sleep i sit here raging at the fact that i

cannot write and i cannot read and i I need to and I want to.

And then I physically still go to the gym, even if I haven't slept.

And it's really, really hard.

It's really, really painful, right?

If it wasn't for those two things, I would not care about sleeping.

Okay. If it wasn't for those two things, I would not care about sleeping. I do blue collar work.

I can't do that shit.

If I sleep on the job, my dementia patient runs away and I catch a charge.

Um... dementia patient runs away and I catch a charge um what do you mean runs away like like you're trapping them you're just catching them like Pokemon.

You're running around with a big net

and catching dementia patients

and you can't let them go.

I work as a truck driver

So I need

Listen the jokes

I can't even joke about this stuff anymore

Because now it's going to get serious

Now I'm going to be held liable for some crazy shit

Well

Well I don't know what to say

alright

uh truck driver

no he'd say

oh no you don't need sleep

he's like

sorry no okay go get sleep

go good sleep

traffic requires it

uh anyway

anyway uh okay jank versus hassan

uh should i save that debate for tomorrow

uh so many people are going to miss out i don't care i don't care a lot of people are here a lot of people are going to miss out. I don't care. I don't care. A lot of people are here.

A lot of people are here.

We're going to do it tonight.

All right.

I'm just going to go on YouTube, assuming that someone has uploaded it to YouTube.

If they haven't, we're fucked.

Shank versus Hassan.

Wow,

three hours.

Three hours.

Swamp live school when you're an over ah ah what the hell wow this is trans rights and abortion and all right you know i don't know if we're going to watch all of this

no i'm going to spoil for you we're not going to watch all of this if you don't know jank is

moving far to the left of Hassan Pecker Piker

and

Hassan is going

to the right

Ah

okay I'll tell you about the

AC thing thing later

All right later.

All right.

All right.

Swamp lives cool when you're an ogre

Swamp lives wild when you're an ogre All right

This is what we're here to see

And uh Big political realignment going on.

And it's being reflected by Bernie Sanders as well, not just a son.

Let's see what comes of this.

By the way, there's something I want to say, clip this if you can clip it. If there's something i want to say clip this if you can clip it if there's things you want to

clip i would you know i can't get over how many people call jackson hinkle a grifter but not

hasan pike or a guy who has never faced any systemic adversity whatsoever.

Jackson is banned everywhere except Elon Musk's Twitter or X.

And by the way, Hassan's not banned from X either because it's open for everyone now basically.

There's free speech.

But that's the only reason he's not banned.

If it was the old Twitter, he would have been banned from that as well.

So Jackson's banned everywhere.

He's banned from PayPal.

There's been attempts on his life.

He's relentlessly smeared by the media.

Meanwhile, Hassan Piker is allowed to rise to the top of political streaming, not just streaming, but political streaming on Twitch.

He faces no systemic adversity whatsoever, and the media never does hit pieces on him.

Fox News is not even a hit piece, to be, let's mean, let's be honest, it's not a hit piece

because

only boomers watch Fox News

and take it seriously. So it doesn't even

do him any damage.

So he faces zero systemic adversity

or pushback. He's not deep platform

from anywhere.

Nothing is done to engage in character assassinations against him or whatever.

And the only people that do that are not like systemic actors, but like resentful and bitter and angry aggrieved other live streamers

who are sick of him as a gatekeeper.

Yeah, Donnie O'Sullivan just platformed Hassan

and is like, you know,

making him look really good and respectable and worth taking seriously and articulate and so on and so on.

So I don't understand this. Why is there such a willingness to attack us uh jackson and not hassan even the

people that aren't directly hasan pike or fans will never dare criticize his on in the same way

they do with jackson But why is Hassan Pike

or a genuine and sincere actor,

but Jackson isn't?

I mean, I don't understand it.

Like, Hassan has never faced any pushback at all by the system.

And you think that Jackson's backed by the feds and not Hassan?

Can you rise to the top of political streaming on Twitch and not somehow be considered an asset for the feds or the system?

Like, if Hassan Piker was a threat to the bourgeoisie, a threat to the system,

why don't they de-platform him?

And don't tell me they don't have a pretext for doing it

because they especially have one now where even Zionist advertisers

are like trying to hurt Twitch's ad revenue and still nothing.

I'm not saying I want him to be banned.

You're misreading me if that's what you're taking away from this.

It's not that I want him to be banned.

It's that I think it's hypocritical for people to call Jackson Hinkle a grifter

while giving Hassan Piker a free pass

and not even being suspicious at all

in any capacity

as far as like how much he doesn't face

any systemic adversity at all.

Like that's cause for suspicion

at least. If not on his part, then on the part of, you know, clearly the system either doesn't see him as a threat or sees him as an asset. And I don't think that's an incredibly

controversial thing to say, right? Nine times out of ten when I see people attack Jackson as a

grifter, they tend to be Hassan Piker fans.

How is Jackson a Grifter but not Hassan Piper who is unwilling to say anything that's actually controversial among this generation?

Again, you heard what I just said for this generation.

Yes, the things that he says are controversial to boomers,

but they're not controversial for our generation.

And they only recently become controversial, by the way,

because of the anti-woke backlash, which happened, let's say, 2022, starting 2022 or 2023.

So who's the real grifter here, you know?

Um... here, you know? Um,

he is clearly

grifting and pandering.

I, look, I mean, he makes like 30 times more money than Jackson.

Makes like 30 times as much as Jackson does.

He owns and lives in a $3 million mansion.

How is Jackson the Grifter and not Hassan?

When you point this out out his fans will be like

oh skill issue

it's like okay but

didn't you just call Jackson a grifter

then it's a skill issue for you motherfucker

fucking idiot

yeah anyway um You fucking idiot.

Yeah, anyway, no, that's something that just pisses me off, straight up.

It's like, there is a Hassan.

Hassan Piker is the influencer of all of the leftists who hate us.

And that's just the truth.

The thing that unites all

the leftists that hate us,

because look, the destiny people,

I don't even really call them leftists

anymore.

All of the pro-Ukraine leftists are not really leftists at all. At this point, they're like directly far right.

And I think Hassan and his fan base are a right wing, but they're still like leftist in the sense of how their

ideology is flavored.

Like they're like DSA types, right?

But they're all just followers

of the Twitch streamer Hassan Piker.

I can't tell you how many

DSA people try to scoff at us and be

like, oh,

you guys are just followers of a Twitch streamer.

It's like, I'm banned from Twitch.

Meanwhile, if this guy didn't

exist or stop streaming for

one month, there would be no DSA.

It would collapse and dissolve.

Hassan Piker

is the thought leader

of all American leftists.

And he's just not... He's just the one

guy none of them will critique

or call out or go against.

You know,

they are no more radical than he is,

as far as whatever,

like,

views they express on anything.

And it's just such a corrupt thing

that they just all take that for granted.

Like,

oh, no way, I'm not going to go against Hassan.

I'm not going to go against Hassan Piker and his community because you're a coward.

Because you're a coward pretending to be like some principled leftist or something

when you're clearly just scared of being ostracized socially and, you know, he's, he's, uh, branded himself to Palestine.

Yeah, but you know the difference between Jackson and Hassan?

Um, Jackson has always been a one state Palestine, pro-Palestine guy,

anti-Zionist, whereas before October 7th, Hassan Piker believed in the two-state solution.

So that's the difference, actually.

Jackson was never a Zionist.

I'm talking like never, never, never a Zionist, right?

Even in that clip taken out of context where Jackson is like, you know, he's glad that Net and Yahoo

won rather than the other guy because it would better accelerate the demise of Israel and

U.S. hegemony, which is what Nasrallah and all the other resistance people said, by the way.

That doesn't mean he's like a Zionist.

It's the opposite.

He's saying that it would accelerate the destruction of Israel.

Nisraeli said the same thing.

It would help alienate Israel from the entire world.

Anyway, Jackson was never a Zionist, but Hassan Piker was.

It's that simple.

And, you know, you really want to press things. I mean, like, ask Hassan about Syria.

You know?

When did Nasrallah say this?

In one of his speeches before the, about the

elections in Israel.

That's not what he said, though. Let's be real. Yes, it is. Watch the full clip. That's the problem. People don't watch the full clip. They don't watch the full clip. The full clip, not the full clip, the full segment.

They're just watching that clip taken out of context.

They're not contextualizing it.

They're not watching the entire thing that he was actually saying.

Yeah. that he was actually saying. I mean, like, I feel it...

I'm pretty sure it was like 45 seconds after he said that,

that he's like, yeah, this will help accelerate the demise of Israel.

Like, in the same

damn video, you know?

It's crazy. But you believe

these feds who are astroturfing

lies. And it's like, let's be

clear, all right? If

there's a Fed actor on Twitter, the Fed actor is not going to be the person universally identified as a Fed.

Like, the person who's a Fed is not the guy who's like being labeled and called

a Fed in all these viral tweets

that are giving millions of impressions

and tens of thousands of likes

and it's like, oh yeah,

we like, you fucking idiot.

You believe in like the organic hashtag thing?

Like you believe like, oh, we're all cool friends on Twitter and we're like thousands of organically.

It's like the Arab Spring and we're doing hashtag Jackson's of Fed and that's so or.

No, that's exactly what feds are manipulating.

The real feds are the ones getting under the radar and the genuine actors are people like Jackson

getting fed jacketed. No Twitter's not like the Arab Spring and it's like

organic or some shit and it's like a real organic. No, it's not. It's all fucking fake and

manipulated. It's so fucking crazy how people are too stupid to understand that like it's the epitome of hasan

piker's audience poggers we're all the hasan piker fans we're doing the amounts yeah the system

this is all organic.

This is all just the power of the people on the internet.

They have no fucking idea how controlled everything is, which makes it 100% certain that

Hassan Piker is favored

and boosted by Feds.

Like they don't understand

how everything's manipulated. They genuinely

think there's like an

organic Tahrir Square

Arab Spring thing going on

where like everybody's just organically sharing their real

authentic opinions and those are the things

becoming popular and viral. No.

That the discourse, the discourse is exactly

think about it. You think the CIA

isn't controlling the discourse?

The discourse right now

is saying that Jackson's a Fed.

That's the discourse.

I'm not talking about raw numbers.

Raw numbers, Jackson smokes

all these people out of the water.

I'm talking about the...

People get... Guys, clip this.

Clip this.

What people take out of content...

What people get backwards in terms of how they understand how feds manipulate the internet

is they tend to think that discourse is something full of genuine

actors and it's all organic. And the likes and impressions, that's where the manipulations by the CIA

and the feds come in. So they look at a guy like Jackson who discourse-wise

is not doing very well among the American, you know, leftist or whatever, but numbers-wise and fame-wise

and impressions-wise does very well.

And they look at a guy like Hassan Piker, where the opposite is true.

Discursively, he's in a very good position.

But in terms of raw engagement, he's not.

And like, okay, Hassan's genuine because it's human.

He's talking to me, and there's discourse going on, and Jackson is fake and inauthentic. He's just like doing engagement bait and whatever and it's inauthentic, right? So these idiots think that like, oh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh's a Fed and Hassan's the genuine actor. And it shows you

how much they don't understand

how the CIA

actually operates, who created the Internet,

by the way. The CIA

created the Internet literally.

All, I'm not going to get into it.

It's exactly discourse that they manipulate.

It's not raw engagement that is the most manipulated.

It's the discourse that's manipulated. That's where psychological warfare is happening.

And that's where they are the most involved. What narratives are becoming popular? What reputations people have,

that's what they control.

And if you don't think

those are the things

they're controlling to a T,

you are a fucking idiot.

You're a naive idiot.

The guy Hassan Piker

with a pristine reputation

with no problems

whatsoever in discourse and no

problems with reputation at all.

And Jackson,

where it's the opposite, you think that's

organic? You think that's organic?

You think that's authentic?

It's not.

I'm sorry to tell you, but no, this is not, again, it's not the Arab Spring where it's, it's a grassroots opinions are just rising to the surface.

That's not how it works.

It doesn't work like that. have no idea how heavily manipulated discourse is if discourse isn't heavily manipulated look up philip cross on

wikipedia look up philip cross. Look up Philip Cross on Wikipedia.

It's precisely reputation, information, and discourse that's manipulated.

Not the numbers.

People who are stupid, they think they're so stupid. They don't understand. They're like,

oh my God. Oh, this guy Jackson, he's such a sleaze ball. He's getting millions of impressions,

but he has such a bad reputation. That means he's inauthentic. Has it ever occurred to you that he

has a bad reputation for manipulated reasons? Like, that's not an organic thing, that there was a methodical campaign and that his reputation was engineered to be the way it is.

Do you actually think the CIA and these feds and MI6 just sit back and allow people's reputations to stay intact and allow people's character to not be attacked and they just allow people to have a discursive upper um advantage or whatever uh no they don't they understand that's everything

as a guy who's been in the game for four years now um and also a very quick learner,

fucking trust me when I tell you, the discourse is manipulated.

Because I literally wage war with these feds,

and it's like chess

at this point. It's like 40 chess.

And I know they're playing because

their

responses are predictable

and how we play

is calculated to anticipate

those things. And it's like at this point we know who we're playing

with we know who we're playing chess with you know and it's all disc it's a discourse war you guys

you need to understand something.

The discourse war is not superficial.

There's always a double meaning behind everything, right?

And it's about

fighting the war for the discourse, fighting the psychological war, and it's about fighting the war for the discourse fighting the psychological war and it's an extremely

intentional methodical thing and yes our enemies are fighting that war and yes they are not just bitter

crazy deranged schizophrenics in someone's basement.

It's MI6 and CIA, and that much we have confirmed.

And don't fucking ask me how we know that.

Please don't fucking ask me how we have it confirmed.

We have it confirmed.

Just let me...

We have it confirmed. Just let me... We have it confirmed.

Okay?

Because, uh...

Well, how do I...

How do I put this?

The people that would know there's other people that would know

there's other people that would know about this

who are

not playing on the blue team

okay

um and they tell us and they know you know and they know and they actually

fucking know so yes it's been confirmed that these kind of narrative wars are happening.

And the CIA and the MI6 are the ones that we're fighting and that we're playing 40 chess with all the fucking time.

Mossad.

That is true, but the Mossad is... See, here's another thing.

Believe me or don't believe me Mossad is effective when it comes to like assassinations and war and things when it comes to the discourse stuff nobody comes close to MI6.

Nobody fucking comes close.

Mossad, when you, when you, when Mossad has their hands on something, it's so fucking obvious.

Like, what Mossad boosts are like the Drew Pevlu tweets.

That's what Mossad Boots.

What Mossad Boots also were the tweets that were like, oh, Jackson is not truly pro-Palestinian.

He's just a grifter doing it for money that was also confirmed

massad stuff but the the more um the stuff about like fascism and white supremacy and all that

kind of stuff, that

has MI6 all over it.

That's MI6.

Mossad is very like sloppy

and like unsophisticated

when it comes to discourse

warshit. But MI6

are masters of manipulation. You have to give war shit. But MI6 are masters

of manipulation. You have to give them that.

And then this surprised me

at first, but then I just fucking thought about it.

It's like, how did this small,

shitty island, Britain,

conquer the world? How did they do it?

With their Navy? Well, that was only part of it. With their superior fighting tactics? Not really. How did they do it? Well, it was all through psychological warfare. And don't believe me, study history.

But the British have been masters of psychological warfare for centuries and centuries. Just masters of lies, manipulation, deceit, complete complete you have to give them that they're

masters at it you know they very masterfully know how to cultivate conflicts in the discourse what

are the things that make people divide and unite and how do you manage reputations and

perceptions and things like that?

That is, yeah, the Mossad is like Indian, New Delhi.

That's the level of sophistication they're on.

It's the MI6 that are masters of discursive manipulation.

So, guys, think about a question.

Why is it that the British are like, where do these where do these alternative

socialisms and communisms come

from?

Well, I'll tell you where they come from. The fucking

British intelligence.

And it was just the same old

divide and conquer tactic. They had

an enemy, the Bolsheviks, and the Bolsheviks were communists, and they really, really were big on the communism thing.

So how do you cause problems at that level of the communist ideology

you start, you know, George Orwell

and the anarchists and the bread tube

and the Trotskyists and

that's how they do it. It's not because

they care about it. It's not because

they're committed to it. It's just

they do the same thing in Islam.

They do the same thing in Africa with the different tribes in Africa, right?

And they did the same thing in India.

They do the same thing all around the world.

It's divide and conquer.

It's what they invented, you know?

Um... divide and conquer. It's what they invented. You know? So,

so you need to understand this.

I mean, Massad are like very proficient.

And they have a very big fixation on Dugan.

Let me tell you guys something. I don't know if I'm allowed to say this fuck it

it's got to be public info at this point

okay

um

one of our comrades in Russia

Zachar prelepin and if you know this, there was an assassination attempt on his life.

I think it was one year ago.

And I actually saw where the bombing happened.

Myself, I went to the site of the bombing and see that was committed by

uh some some uh ukrainian hired guy or whatever

who hid in the woods

or something

for weeks

waiting for the right opportunity

attempt on his life

through a car bomb through a car bomb it's through a car bomb well get

this that turned out to be an act carried out with the assistance of guess who am i'm going to say

just i'll just say guess who. I'm not even going to say. I'll just say guess who.

That was the intel and the whatever the coordination was handled by... by not Mossad.

No, not Mossad.

Yeah, you guys got it.

MI6.

So they are very interested in the Russian and breaking Russian morale.

And that's why they take such a keen interest in Dugin and prelepin.

They take such a keen interest in these people because they represent Russian morale, and that's what they're trying to find any kind of way to crush and destroy.

Because these are the tactics.

This is how they operate. Anyway Anyway, no, I just, this is the rant I wanted to go on.

It's just infuriating how stupid people are.

They don't understand how any of how the internet works.

Discourse is

not authentic. It's 100%

engineered.

And it's not just

feds, by the way. The top streamers

know how to manipulate this shit.

It's just like high school.

Think about high school

where there's rumor mongering

and,

oh, we have to do this

to hurt their social status

or whatever.

It's like,

these laws apply to the

internet and to social media

and influencers.

And they also happen to be...

If they can be manipulated by fucking Keemstar,

then they are being manipulated by C...

Don't even take my word for it.

Just use the... I know for certain, but don't take my word for it.

Keemstar does this. So if Keemstar can

fucking do it, so can the CIA and the MI6.

And if you think you're so smart

that you couldn't possibly be manipulated into having perceptions that are untrue but play into the interests of these intelligence agencies you are underestimating your own stupidity you're not as smart as you think you are.

You're like, oh, I'm not one of those Indian bots that like Jackson's tweets.

I'm a Hassan Piker fan who's plugged into the Hassan discourse.

I'm truly an independent thinker.

And it's like, you are the biggest sheep there is.

The guy liking Jackson's tweet is a fucking taxi driver in New York or in Yemen who fucking believes

in UFOs in Antarctica or something.

That's actually an independent thinker.

Okay?

That guy is an independent thinker.

You are the sheep.

The guy liking and engaging with Jackson's tweets,

that guy literally has been to hollow earth, all right?

You who are Hassan Piker fan, who are plugged into the discourse and the

trendy, you're the fucking mental slave who's being manipulated artificially, not him. That guy is

beyond any manipulation that guy literally believes like obama

obama's a robot or something there's nothing you could do to manipulate him into believing anything.

He doesn't live in your reality anymore.

He's purely independent in terms of his thoughts.

That's the Arab OG

TikTok videos where they're circling shit in red

and there's always the red circles

and yeah

you don't even know what you're dealing with

all right you're the fucking cheap

not Jackson's Not Jackson's.

Not Jackson's people.

You.

Am I ready?

Am I ready?

Shaky Gerga is here in the building.

It's Thanksgiving time, baby. is Jake's giving time

baby is Jake's giving time

who onka's here

what is that I got a Thanksgiving president

for you okay you do okay

oh my God

how much do you love this I know you're a big

fan of Hunter Biden. I know.

This is like,

this reminds me of one of the,

one of the first.

Since every time we tell jokes,

they want to take it seriously.

Let's,

let's cut into their jokes and say,

start with,

uh,

isn't Hunter Biden a pedophile didn't he

actually like assault children in those uh laptop leaks wasn't there like pretty damning evidence, not necessarily full proof, but evidence

that Hunter Biden was a petto?

So how, why is it okay to be ironically a Hunter Biden fan?

You know?

This is, well, no, no, it's fine.

I like it.

Would you guys make this?

Is it your murder?

Yeah, yeah. You made a free hunter? Come on, that's pretty good. No, it's fine i like it did you guys make this is you remember you made a

come on that's pretty good

no it's it like

Zirka has told a lot of

bad jokes i don't stand by those jokes

but he's not

actually a petto but Hunter

Biden actually is a petal, right?

So why is Hassan allowed to, like, ironically, be a fan of a fucking pedophile, like, an actual pedophile?

You know who came up with that idea?

Who? I did. I love that.

Okay.

Hey, Hunter, baby. So anyways, put that aside. Who do you think is going to...

Isn't he just a corrupt crackhead?

No, he's pretty sure he's a petto. I'm pretty sure

there's things that have come out from that laptop

that's like petto shit, frankly.

Pardon Hunter. No one,

Joe or Donald.

I don't know.

I feel like Joe

could possibly do it, but he respects

norms and civility too much almost

in his weird twisted way.

But also his mental faculties have declined

dramatically over the years.

So maybe he could still pull through.

I don't think Trump would do it, though.

I think Trump would do it.

But I think before, I think Joe's going to do it.

Because Papa Joe's in a no Thanksgiving time in his life yeah so he's like oh landmines for

everyone uh you know let's bomb russia uh with american missiles yeah so i think he's at the point

where he's like yeah my kid yeah i'm free him just the

this was a uh fun moment as well you had this uh we'll show your highlight reel here

shaky gurg he gets into a fight with alan lickman this this was, the people love this shit, okay?

I love this shit as well.

I've made fun of Alan Lickman before

because a lot of liberals were coming to my...

Didn't Jank come to America first?

And it's like, I am European, I am enlightened.

Yeah. like, I am European, I am enlightened. Oh, man.

My chat and be like, put the 13 keys.

Like, he knows how to turn him.

I'm like, he made it up.

Like, you can't, like, there is no hard science here. It's crazy how psychology works.

Like, growing up, I looked white as fuck growing up, okay? Like, when I was a child, when I was a kid, I looked very white, frankly, as a child, I looked white.

But when I was like a child, like 9, 10 years old, I was like a fucking religious fundamentalist.

I was like a religious fundamentalist.

I was ready to fucking burn down the infidels.

I was hardcore, right?

I wouldn't even eat chicken nuggets from McDonald's because they're not halal.

Like not just not eating pork, you got to eat the halal meat.

Which is a standard practice for most Muslims

or not most, but a lot of Muslims.

But,

you know,

I'm off the screen.

All right.

Yeah. Um, all right uh yeah um um like but yeah here

you don't know

you attacked me personally

you're so deluded

I've only been a professor

51 years

what are you guys arguing about in the chat

why don't you drop this topic why don't you drop this topic I just 51 years. What are you guys arguing about in the chat?

Why don't you drop this topic, whatever it is?

I don't even know what it is.

I have not really been keeping up with Zirka at all on anything for a very long time so i it's not relevant whatever you're talking about all right just drop it i've never been able to finish a thought how many books have

you published been in, because you're personally

attacking me again. Say whatever you want, but I'm not going to stand for

brother, you got it wrong.

You were preposterously and stupidly wrong.

So, okay, all right, can I just finish a goddamn thought

ever on this show?

No, not if you're personally, I admitted I was wrong.

I don't need you to call me stupid.

Okay.

Can I just say it's great to see you, Democrats all getting along so well.

God, I just appears, man.

He just, anyway, I'm not, man. He just...

Anyway, I'm not going to get into it.

I know he's your best bud.

He's your pal.

He's love to see you.

Bro, every time I look at shit,

Jank, I'm just thinking of that one guy.

Bittur, skippity dope, dope, dope, dope, dope,

yes, yes, yes.

Give it a deep. Grow a fucking beard, man.

You Turks.

Stop shaving.

Grow beards.

You don't look European at all.

You look like the skittity guy.

I don't care without the Turk said.

Grow beards.

Grow mustaches.

Facial hair.

You're not built for the European way.

Y'all look silly as fuck.

Bro, if Jank grew a beard, he would look like a damn warlord.

He would look like, he would look like a Janissary or something.

Right? Sleeper cell, what's up?

But they're trying to like be

Europeans so badly

that it's making them look like

silly, you know?

Bood, skibity doop, dope, dope, dope, look like silly, you know? Bid-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-

Yes, yes, yes.

Skib-de-dips, skib-de-dop.

God damn point.

We're just one right now.

Hey, Alan, you just...

If he grew a beard, he'd look like literally an imam.

He'd look like...

If Turks started growing beards again,

they would be the leaders of all Islam in the whole world.

Everyone would respect them.

Serve a tall glass of shut up,

Jude.

It would look like Ertigal.

They would all

look like warriors and conquerors.

So can you just shut up?

But not Hassan Piker.

Asan Piker just looks like a

Sond Piker

doesn't look Turkish at all

he looks like

uh

Jank

I'm sorry

sorry

Jank looks Turkish

not Hassan

Hassan

Hassan looks like

I'm just

I'm just laughing at his face

all right

sorry all right sir yes this is what

this is Turkish

all right

Hassan does not look Turkish

at all

Hassan looks like

what does he look like he's

um

Hassan looks like Syrian or something

Jank looks like

Jank

Jank definitely

he looks like the 10%

Central Asian part

of the Turkish

DNA

Cook him!

Not a bad thing, by the way.

Not a bad thing.

Cook him! Cook his ass dude I love I love your god he doesn't

look Syrian your car yeah he does he looks Syrian what are you talking about he doesn't

look Syrian yes he does Hassan looks Syrian. Yes, he does. Hassan looks Syrian.

You have not seen the Syrian diaspora.

He looks like the Syrian diaspora,

who are like all from the ruling class,

that hate Assad.

That's what Hassan looks like.

Hassan looks Greek. Uh, yeah, I could see that. But that's, that's what Syrians look like.

Excellent. You said tall glass of shut up juice.

You are the brownest white man on the planet, by the way.

Others have charged that.

Yeah, it's just so funny that you deserve a tall glass of shut up juice is the most like,

listen, pal.

Not the time,

Bucco ass take that you can have here.

You know why?

Because I'm an American.

Yeah, you just deployed that shit, dude.

You deployed it so hard.

For a second.

And it worked.

You shut the fuck up.

Well, that's what the tall glass that shut up juices for.

Yeah. And let someone who knows what they're doing.

You're so right here. You're so right.

So any point you want, I will not sit here and stand

for personal attacks, for blasphemy against me

you don't need to do that

you don't blasphemy against you

what hell are you are you

blasphemy

what a fucking insane thing

to say about your

demonstrably failed political

method where's the key

when you jiggle the keys?

That's later. You know, that actually didn't make the

viral clip, which is really funny. Because I thought

that might do it. Because in the middle, as he was

talking, do you have it? Oh, yeah, here it is.

Yeah, they pulled it out. Real

previously worked as pragmatic decision making on whether or not the White House Party has governed well enough.

And then my analysis is based upon what's changed, what's shattered.

Biddle, scuba the doubt it up, dope, dope, dope,

dope, yes, yes.

The pattern of 160 years of history.

So I have a base for my...

BIRS is such a piece of shit.

I mean, Biden said that that was the real reason why God, Pierce is such a piece of shit.

I mean,

Biden said that that was the real reason

why she not only picked,

I'll take it one step further.

It's not even Kamala Harris

that frustrates.

He looks azuri.

I could see that.

Me about that.

It's the fact that Biden said that about Katanji Brown Jackson,

who literally is more deserving of a Supreme Court appointment

than most of the other Supreme Court justices,

and he still f***ed the bag up by turning around

and being like, oh yeah,

we're picking, I'm picking a black woman,

Jack, and it was fucking nutty.

Because like, that's the first time we've had

a public defender sit on

the top court. Like, that was not

a DEI hire

in the way the conservatives mentioned it.

So do you know that I'm against affirmative action?

I've always been against affirmative action.

And wait, really?

Skippy the dump, dope, dope, dope, dope,

yes, yes.

Yeah, and the reason is... I did not know that.

Yeah.

The reason is because Katanji Brown Jackson is an excellent Supreme Court justice who's perfectly qualified.

So is Sonia Sotomayor.

But the minute at any minority, by the way, including us, gets any position

of power, respect,

et cetera, what does everybody do? I just got it

because they're black. They just got it because they're there.

I think that's a...

Jank

is the definition of what Tarik

Nishid would say is a tether.

He's a

foreigner. He's a brown foreigner

who's coming here trying to speak on

black people's business, acting like he's one of them.

And he's not and tarreek needs to give him that wake-up call you think that's just the right way he's like people like us including us tariq hold up

tariq's got something to say about that.

What do you mean one of us?

But it isn't.

No, no, no, no.

Everyone says.

No, I understand where you're coming from, but I respectfully disagree.

I think that that is like ultimately, uh, caving and capitulating to right wing framing on the issue.

The affirmative action conversation has always been a

band-aid solution to like significantly more consequential racial dynamics in this country that have never been

addressed at all. And I've always looked at things from a class position regardless. And like the real

affirmative action is legacy admission. We even have a petition on t.yt.com to end legacy petitions

because if you're against affirmative action.

Now where are you from, sir?

What the hell are you talking about?

What do you mean where am I from?

Oh, Tariq.

That's what Tariq says.

You have to be against affirmative action

for super rich dudes whose dad went to Princeton or gave

Princeton a million dollars.

Yeah.

George Bush, going to Yale.

Yeah.

That's totally bullshit.

And by the way, you know who else was in affirmative action pick?

Joe Biden.

Because Obama picked him because he was an old white guy.

He's like, I don't really care. He was a white guy who I was like gas that's not affirmative action

that's just optic management

because in his final list

just optics control

they had a big list

in the final list

I don't have a problem

with optics control at all

are you fucking kidding

we fill the whole problem with optics control at all. Are you fucking kidding?

We fill the whole party with white people

just to do optics control

so no one knows that we're a

tartarian conspiracy.

You know what I am? You know what I am?

You know what I am?

I'm a Hotep, but about Turks.

We're the real Turks, and these are fake Turks.

These are just Greeks.

We're the real Turks.

The real Turks are Tartarians from Central Asia.

Putin is a real Turk.

We're the real Turks.

Tartarians are real.

Tamerlang, that's the real Turks.

These are fakes.

And I'm a real Turk. These are fakes. And I'm a real Turk.

These are fake Turks.

And I'm the real Turk.

We're taking it from them, just like how Hoteps took a lot of things.

And actually, the Tartarians were black

so it all comes full circle anyway

the Tartarians were black

and

because do you know the definition of black? The definition of black is to be completely excluded fundamentally and fully from so-called civilized Europe.

And that, therefore, Genghis Khan is the true.

He's black, basically.

And this is great wisdom.

It was only old white men.

They knew they had to bounce the ticket because it was a young

African American. So let's not pretend that they didn't pick on

demographic information. Obama did and so did Biden.

Yeah, but also it doesn't work in that direction regardless because

obviously the underlying sentiment is that like

affirmative action is not

the reason why people think black people are underthering of their

position in society. They already thought that

and now they're using affirmative action to, you know,

continue to compound on that

argumentation. And I hate that it compounds because it's not true. I just, I'm more like, uh, the,

the process itself in terms of like, uh, affirmative action in general, albeit is still, like I said,

uh, not a good solution to systemic racism and, and inequality that persists and black people being consistently

Have you ever heard my take about race in America and that the only race in America are

black Americans, specifically, foundationally black Americans. That is the only race in America.

Do you want to know why that is? That is the only race in America. I'll tell you why. Because the definition of a race is what a people are, how they reproduce relationships and cultures and languages and so on and so on without any mediation from state institutions

so what remains of a people when they have been completely deprived of any institutional

mediation?

And that is what a race is.

That is what it means for people to be racialized.

And, uh, That is what it means for people to be racialized. And once you understand that, it makes a lot of sense.

The people who were enslaved and were never given any land we had never had any institutional existence in the

United States but nonetheless remained a people who still had to go about having an existence, right? A real existence. And that, and their existence is regarded as more real,

even to, even to white people, more real and more authentic, because it's fundamentally outside and not mediated by institutions.

The Romani fit that description too.

You know what, Hamza, that is an incredibly good counter argument and i have to think

of something uh no no here's why it's not true hamza it's the reason it's not true

is because the romani were never nonetheless attached to the country in the way that black people were because they weren't a slave class they weren't all like uh slaves but foundational black Americans are part of American history primarily through the importation of slavery and the Atlantic slave trade.

So that's the main difference.

But you know, you got me thinking

about

critically thinking more so

that was a good point

to bring up but I I completely

spard

I completely blocked it

and counter attacked

served in American society even now

even when I recognize

that it's still not like

anything that moves a needle in an appropriate direction

is fine

I don't have a issue with it

especially if it's like

for example making colleges more diverse in general.

That's a good thing.

Perry, yeah, parried it.

It's a bad thing at all.

Like, these are some of my most, like, rad lip takes, I would say.

But I do think that that actually makes it a better learning.

Do you guys know the theory that Nordic people are so white

that they have become black?

I'm not going to elaborate.

For the first time, you're actually encountering

and developing interpersonal relationships with...

Norwegian and Swedish people are not white. They're black.

People that you otherwise never would have.

And I think that makes for a better learning environment.

So two things about that.

You know, look, as you were talking, I came up with an analysis here.

Let's see how it goes.

I view affirmative action is kind of a

counterproductive bandaid on a wound.

So the right wing says the wound doesn't exist.

No, I think the wound does exist. I just don't think that the band-aid is right solution, right?

So that, because what the Band-Aid is doing is is covering up the wound and not

letting it breathe and not letting it heal. You're a bit of an accelerationist.

Okay, so... In that regard. Well,

it's very different. You know what I hate about Hassan?

Every time, like, somebody's just, like, saying some shit, he, like, has to, like, prescribe, like, an ideology to it.

Like, even in a normy conversation, someone will be, like, you could be having, uh, you know, chicken nuggets from McDonald's and a bitch will be like, you know,

I just want a 20 piece chicken nugget. And Hassan, and I don't want to share it with anyone.

And Hassan will be like, oh, that's so Paul Pot of you.

That's so like,

he'll be like, oh,

that's so freaking, you know,

that's so Enver Hoja

pilled of you.

You don't want to share your chick.

And it's like, Jesus Christ, dude.

He's always looking for an inn.

He's always looking for an inn to like make these memes he found online relevant, political.

His so-called political knowledge.

I'm not trying to

accelerate racism.

I'm trying to end racism.

That's what

pure Marxist Lenin is say

about the welfare state.

Okay.

You see what I'm saying?

You see what I'm saying?

It's like,

why are you always looking

for the dumbest in

to make

to make these things relevant?

Shit.

I didn't even, I miss that.

Not letting it heal.

You're a bit of an accelerationist.

Okay.

So.

In that regard.

Well, it's very

different accelerations. No, but I'm not trying to accelerate racism. I'm trying to end

racism. That's what that's what pure Marxist-Leninists say about the welfare state. Okay.

It's a, it's a band-aid continuation of like, uh, yeah, but they're wrong. That's a completely

different topic. Okay. I'm just saying.

I got you.

So, but in this case, so constantly reaffirming and reaffirming, we should think about... Bro, you know why I don't go that hard on Hassan?

I straight up see Hassan as the most bulliable person in the world.

And he has no idea how easy I am on him.

He thinks like we're out to get him and we're like attacking him all the time.

No, we're not.

I literally give this guy such a pass

just because of ethnic

favoritism.

If Hassan was not from the Middle East, I was not from the Middle East there would be literal I'm just kidding I'm literally it's a little joke no I the reason I go easy on Hassan is because I don't think he's that important. Well, no, no, he's very important when it comes to the discourse. I understand that. But I don't take him that seriously, personally.

Does that make sense?

I don't really take him seriously.

Race, we should think about race.

We should characterize everyone on race race race that doesn't help defeat

racism it perpetuates racism so i think it's a terrible idea i hate that we view ourselves separately

based on different categories race gender sexual orientation etc it doesn't mean that there isn't

things there aren't things that are going wrong now it doesn't mean that isn't systemic racism. But there's just a fundamental cluelessness about this guy, Hassan,

fundamental clueless. It means that there's a better way to address it. And then in terms

of the diversity, look, I would, I would do not affirmative action, but whatever is the appropriate way to put a thumb on a scale, but for acceptance into schools based on class, not on race.

And it's not because of class dynamics and I don't want the rich to go to good schools, et cetera.

No, I'm saying that if you're, if you came from a poor background,

I don't give it. God damn, if it's from the Hollers of West Virginia or your kid,

black kid in the Bronx.

If you rose up and got great scores and great grades in a situation like that,

you are more likely to be successful.

It's not just that it gives you diversity. August Confucianism pill. in a situation like that, you are more likely to be successful.

It's not just that it gives you diversity.

Uncle's Confucianism-pilled.

Okay.

I'm what-pilled?

Confucianism-pilled. Bro, this is like insufferable.

Like, literally what did I just say?

Okay, whatever the-

Aren't I so good at reading people and, like, pinning down

exactly how they are?

That means.

Yeah, no, you want, you want to...

Yeah, this is, once again,

Jenkis, Denghis rise up, you know?

You want a Chinese style...

Meritocracy, pure meritocratic approach.

Now, the problem with that

is that when you have underserved communities consistently,

you've got to put your thumb on the scale in a certain place

because we don't have true equality of opportunity in this country.

Hold on.

What's the problem with the Chinese thing again?

I'm pretty sure they're doing it way better in China than whatever like what do you mean oh the problem with that

what do you mean the problem with that what problem

compare what they're doing, whatever it is

to the mess we have here.

And I don't really think there's a problem, all right?

You see,

people like yourself and myself, that's what we're advocating

for. Republicans will turn around and bastardize that

critique and critiqued by saying, you want equality

of outcome. We don't want equality of outcome we don't want

equality of opportunity and when there's no true equality of opportunity when black communities

are consistently underserved when you look at the Chicago public school system that is 90% of the

state of it. If Hassan was really about it, which he's not, he would do debates.

He would.

I'm not saying he would debate me or Jackson.

He would debate Charlie Kirk and he would debate all these people.

And that's, he would actually be so successful if he did.

I'm not going to lie. It sucks. I hate saying it, but he would actually be so successful if he did. I'm not going to lie. It sucks. I hate saying it, but he would. He's just so insecure about his abilities. But if Hassan started debating, he would smoke destiny and all these other people.

He would, I would, that would actually be a crisis for ACP.

We would have to literally strategize how to take him down.

I'm not even fucking kidding.

If he started debating.

Right now, the fact that he doesn't do debates, he's literally not a threat to us because we know he has no future how can he have a future how will he ever gain traction and win over audiences new audiences

the new generation how is he going to do it without debates? You know?

Illinois's like black and brown student body population being consistently underserved.

You are getting to a point where

people are not being propped up to succeed in this process.

So I think that you're right.

Analyzing it from the class.

I'm saying debate Charlie Kirk, debate Ben Shapiro, debate these people, debate Jordan Peterson.

Oh, they would love to debate him.

Position is good because even though there's a racial dynamic and a racial disparity that exists in the the American normal order of business, the violence or the inequality, the structural inequalities are still dished out on a class based perspective. Yeah, I mean,

the hollers in Kentucky don't have great public

schools either. So they also had to overcome

a lot. Right. So like saying that a black guy

at Exeter should

get an advantage, but a white kid in

the middle of Missouri who's going to shit public school too

should not get an advantage.

That makes no sense.

I don't think that that's what people are advocating for, though.

I mean, I don't know.

I'm literally advocating for that.

I'm not.

I'm not advocating for that.

I don't know what you mean.

I don't think like, I don't think people who are, I don't think that like black activist groups are saying

like, no, the poor white people.

This is the Sons problem.

He always like assumed, oh, like the black

activist groups. It's like,

those people are fucking CIA

funded Democrat.

Those are Democrats.

Black Lives Matter.

That group got hundreds of millions

from Soros.

And he thinks that because they're black,

that they're authentic and they're real.

Those people are not welcome in black communities, the real ones.

They're not in the black neighborhoods in Detroit and Chicago.

That's where not where they are.

All they come from is Democrat money.

No, but they're saying give an advantage based on race, not class.

And I'm saying I 100% disagree.

Yeah, they are saying that, by the way.

I agree with that. Okay. Well,

again, Band-Aid's

illusion. Hassan, why are you scared to

agree with that? You know? Why are you so fucking scared?

He's like scared bro there's this like crazy

like oh we'll never

I'm never gonna contradict the activists

oh not the activists

I don't want to be canceled by the activists.

Bro, grow a fucking pair.

Holy shit.

So back to Biden and Harris.

So we both agree Biden should have gotten the fuck out of the race.

They're crazy. Can I just say one other thing?

Actually, historically, the wrong that has been committed is on the basis of out of the race. They're crazy. Can I just say one other thing, actually?

Historically, the wrong that has been committed is on the basis of race.

So I think the solution to that problem, albeit, you know, should... No, it's not based on race.

It's based on class.

I can fucking prove it.

That's because I'm a real Marxist.

Why am I saying that as if

Hassan even pretends to be a Marxist?

He doesn't. He's just a Democrat.

Jimmy!

Look, it is class. I'll tell you why.

The difference between white and black people is rooted in different historical class relationships to production. Black people were enslaved and white people weren't. So it created a new social strata.

Classes have history.

They evolve.

Just because black people were freed doesn't mean that their prior slave status did not determine the evolution of their class status as a different social segment in strata than white people.

A lot of the time, not always, but a lot of the time.

Again, not always.

Sometimes black people were living in the same communities and working in the same workplaces as white people and race was just some nonsense tool to divide people but the

decisive difference was the fact that black people were on account of having been slaves never able to acquire an institutionalized status as Americans.

And, I mean, economically institutionalized.

And, well, besides the welfare system or whatever right which had not which you know which is a complete

degradation of their status as americans in general but yes slavery was class who's it's not race it's class anyone who says it's

race is either a racist or an idealist and i can prove it with Marxism. Are you guys ready for this?

Are you all ready for this?

Are you all ready for this?

Are you all ready for this?

I'll tell you why.

If you say it's race, that means you're saying that, you know, race is historically decisive on account of what biological differences or something?

So you're a racialist. You really, you are racist. Okay, next question. If you don't

believe that's the case, you're an idealist. Well, I'm saying if you are committed to the view that

if you're committed to the view that the differences are based that race is the cause,

either you're a racist who believes in racialism or you're an idealist because then you're going to

say well maybe i don't believe in the real racialism but what you do believe in is what what

you believe in is uh...

is that people's thought prejudices their inborn

prejudices about other races the the idea of racism in other words

is the decisive factor

which is another acquiescence to idealism, because racism is then just an ideology.

If you're not a racist, then of course you think it's just an ideology. And then if you're saying, no, it's a systemic structural thing.

Well, you're just saying that that idea is raised to the status of an institutional convention.

It's still idealism.

So you either believe in class or that's it.

Now, the national question is a separate thing.

But the national question concerns the question of state sovereignty.

It concerns national policy. It's not a race question okay so no there is no room for race in

Marxism there's no room for race in Marxism at all. None.

It is class.

Unless you want to...

Unless you want to...

You want to...

You want to...

Spin it as a national question, which others have

tried in the past and failed to do, in my

view. That's a separate discussion,

though.

Should, you know, feature a class dynamic.

Absolutely will have some racialized component attached to it because you can't write a historic

wrong by simply being like, yeah, we're just going to...

So look, look, this is really important. So let's talk about balance.

The better position, I think, is that the only race in America are black people.

I think that's such a much more powerful position.

Race is not a cause of anything.

The reason race is the racial issue is so felt by black people in particular is because America denies its own real civil society and cannot recognize its own real civil society.

And this leads to the racialization of a specific segment of the population, which represents the universal American race, right?

Because in the beginning, when, let's take longshoremen or firefighters, they're all white,

let's say in the south, right, where you've got

massive Jim Crow laws. If you deny that

and you think, oh, no, black people got a perfect opportunity

in 1940s and 20s and 60s in the south,

you're just in a different planet, so there's no point in talking

me, right? So they're at a massive, massive disadvantage

to say the least. They can't get in. And the long Sherman,

I get it.

Their instinct is, I want to give my job to my son. It's a good job. It pays well, et cetera, right?

So I want to pass it on to my son. Now, at some point, you have to use affirmative action in the beginning to break through that because if you allow that to happen, black people are never

going to be able to break through, right? So you've got it in the beginning say, look, we're taking action based on race because the discrimination was based on race.

But if you do that forever, then you never break the racial paradigm, right?

We're always thinking about race and we're always separating based on race.

So it can't be forever.

It can't be never.

So then the question becomes, when do you end affirmative action?

And we started in the 1960s.

Here we are in 2024.

If it hasn't worked by now,

I got news for you.

It ain't never going to work.

So it's a wrong solution to a real problem.

But that's also because like it's not,

it hasn't even,

no,

Jank is not saying racism is over.

Pack it up, guys.

No, he's not saying that. I literally said that's not the case.

The wound still exists. The wound is real.

Yeah. And I literally said systemic racism is real.

Maybe you might not, maybe you might not like this, but I do think that

reparations is a part of the solution to this, albeit it's politically impossible to get through in a country that is so resilient

in their interpretation of...

The true

anti-racist theory

is Dugan's...

It's actually extremely advanced.

I'm not even gonna...

You guys aren't even ready for it, all right?

Dugan's theory

of racism today is the

most advanced one. You ready to hear it?

To Dugan

liberals

are racist against all non-liberals and all and they are becoming a new race liberals are becoming a new race and they're and um the real racism is against all illiberal people.

And that is the most nuclear pill that no one's ready for.

So I'm not even going to tell you about it.

What that means is that you can be white

you can be black

it doesn't matter

we're all victims of

the racism of the new liberal race

which is a

kind of transhuman

you're not ready for the

Dugan pill

how much they've internalized

white supremacy but again reparations is a

super interesting nuanced conversation

so on the one

hand, the double racism theory.

You know, and I'll give credit to Marianne

Williamson here. I thought she phrased it best back in

2020 when she said a debt is own.

And that is actually very literally true.

So we use the country at

large and the country I love, and yes, we came to it much, much later, but that country took advantage of all of that free labor to build what we love and what we now take advantage of what we came here for, right?

So hundreds of years of free labor, no matter what your races or what you're considering.

Under that theory,

Trump is a victim of liberal

racism.

Not because he's white,

but because he represents

the illiberal

race, and there's no white versus black race. It's liberal represents the illiberal race

and there's no white versus black

race. It's liberal versus illiberal.

The condition is is unacceptable.

They never got paid for that.

It's a massive

robbery from African Americans in this country.

So I not only acknowledge that

but I'm enraged by it, but now

what are we going to do? If you

propose a reparations that's so extreme as

San Francisco did, where they're like, oh, any

black person can buy a house in San Francisco for

a dollar. What the fuck?

I don't even know what you're talking. Hold on. Hold on. What? What do you? I don't even know

you're talking about.

Hold on.

Hold on.

What are you talking about?

I had this insane thing

where they're like,

okay, now we,

every white and non-black,

including Latinos,

including,

uh,

Middle East,

or Asians,

et cetera,

have to give money to black people in this city or in this town where they passed it.

Wait, wait, wait, hold on.

Let's just take a look at it first.

Let's, let's analyze it a little bit because this

seems a little bit.

I'd love to.

You're going to see how insane it is.

This seems a little bit kooky.

So proposals include financing debt forgiveness,

guarantee annual incomes for families and homes in the city for $1. San Francisco back's reparation plans, including $5 million

to eligible black adults. More than 100 recommendations

include payments of $5 million to every eligible black adult.

The elimination of personal debt and tax burdens guaranteed annual

incomes of at least $97,000

for 250 years. And homes in San Francisco for just $1 million.

That's crazy.

Families, San Francisco.

Lawmakers heard a range of, they heard a, no, I know, they heard a range of options.

Sometimes people have ideas.

They present those ideas in a situation like this, in like a public town hall setting.

And regardless of...

Enthusiastic support by their council.

Okay. So, but here's the thing.

This is, you know,

this is some of the 100

different recommendations that came through

and it doesn't seem like they followed

through on this or any number of these

different reparations plans.

It's like people have a multitude

enthusiastically received. I think saying, I think saying reparations plans. It's like people have a multitude.

Enthusiastically received. I think saying that is very different than following through on it as a part of your legislative agenda.

So my point was there are extreme proposals on reparations that make no sense. And you're agreeing.

It makes no sense.

Okay.

That's a ludicrous position.

Hassan is too afraid to say this makes no sense.

Hold on.

Is there a way to do reparations in a way that that does make sense?

And I think the answer is yes.

I don't think it's giving people a house for a dollar.

I don't think it's giving them money, et cetera.

But the new school has proposed some interesting ideas,

including, hey, what if we provided tax breaks that would be material in buying housing

for African Americans?

So, well, okay, that's

interesting because now, or you've created

a fund that allows them to turn it into an

education fund for their children, right?

This is why the Democrats

are like racist. Like,

I'm sorry, there's a reason. Maga's

message is a winning message, which is, colorblind thing like fuck it we're all Americans we're going to have all of us prosper not any one race not leaving any race behind all Americans together

which is such a

it's much more compelling than whatever

the fuck this fucking weird shit is

this person also has a good point we should have we should have

a ceasefire in Gaza has also been enthusiastically received by the

Biden Ab and didn't mean they did the damn thing because, you know, politicians like-

We're not arguing, guys. If you think it's absurd, great, fantastic. We all agree with you. I don't,

I don't think that there are, uh, you know, I'm sure that there are some people who think this is

a fantastic idea and they could get into an academic conversation about it. It's just more so a matter of like the framing of this,

to make it seem as though like the...

No, no, I'm setting the outer extreme sauce.

Yeah, but like...

Okay, so I'm saying when you say reparations,

a lot of people are going to say,

bro, Hassan just got uncleed.

He just got nephews.

He literally said, he denied that this

was real, pulled it up, and realized it was

real.

And he got nephewed.

No. A lot of people are going to say, hell yes.

But my point is, but what are we saying yes

or no, too? So if you take the most extreme

example, I say no and everybody says no. But it's not the, I'm agreeing with you. That's not the

only proposal. I'm just telling you, new school has proposals that are really interesting about,

hey, what if it was directed towards education or housing? We promised 40 acres in a mule and we lied. We never gave

them the 40 acres in a movie. Only reparations were given to slave

owners as a matter of fact for lost

revenue off of the

breed African men and

women. Yeah. So you see what I'm saying that

you could do it in a way where

middle America goes, oh, I get it, that sucks, that was an injustice.

And we're trying a small thing here to make up for the injustice.

So that at a minimum, symbolically, to say, thank you, brothers and sisters, for

putting up with this shit.

Or what about the Farmers Alliance

and the Populous Party in the 18, late 1800s,

where the black farmers and the dispossessed black people

and the white people and the white farmers

all in debt shook hands and said

let's fucking topple the system and get

some land let's all get some land

and it's like you know

that's the American way

what is this shit man

this is bourgeois nonsense

I know you didn't do it voluntarily, but you helped build this country and we appreciate you.

So get on a page where we understand each other and appreciate each other instead of framing it as I'm taking from you.

You owe me and I'm taking from you, right? So that perpetuates a wrong cycle.

We don't need New Deal social engineers to solve racism.

It's that simple.

Whereas if the come, but in order to do that last thing on it is, you've got to have

like truth and reconciliation just like South Africa

did. Here's all the f*** up shit we did.

South Africa's, oh my God. Can

people understand this is a fucked up

country?

This is why Americans hate this shit.

This is a

fucked up country.

It's not just all the

abuse that's done

to black people. And yeah, that's

the truth. Black people are targeted. I'm not going to

fucking lie to you and tell you they're not.

They are.

They're always being experimented on and targeted and they can't catch a fucking break.

But that is the soul of this whole country, man.

Fucking white people, you know, getting fucking attacked by hell's angels and shit and

you don't know about the brutal shit though goes on in this country man it's

fucked up for everybody

everyone you yeah you could play the game of somebody's got it better than me

somebody's got it better than me but at the end it better than me. But at the end of the fucking day, man,

this country's cooked. This country is cooked.

You know, South Africa's reconstruction period also was not a great success either.

But truth and reconciliation was excellent. So that portion of it...

We don't fucking need a truth

and reconciliation.

We don't need more pageantries

and things being done

to fucking fix and solve the racism.

That's just such bullshit it's like oh yeah let's keep this is an insult to the fucking people of this country struggling to put food on their fucking table and pay bills while they're in debt being hounded constantly by this shit.

All right?

You want to solve all the racial problems in America?

Let's... Let's fucking solve the problem of...

America doesn't... America doesn't even exist right now

you know we don't even have an American people

right now

oh man

it's like so insulting

fucking crazy

and It's like so insulting. Fucking crazy.

The only people who think that racism is the number one problem are like libtards who live in fucking

who do live perfect lives and they're like oh I'm just thinking

about black people in poverty all the time

and like they don't understand

that there's actually a multi-racial working class, and they're just themselves racist who just think all black people are poor.

And you know what?

I'm going to fucking say some other shit, too.

There's a really big

black upper middle class.

And yes, they're fucking is.

Yes, they're fucking is.

The idea that black people are

all poor or something is the biggest

fucking bullshit I've ever

heard. There are

plenty of middle class, upper middle

class, and bourgeois black

people. So

please, don't fucking

give me this shit.

It was great because they said,

here's all the terrible things we did.

Guys, it doesn't mean that white people today

are racist. It doesn't mean white people today are

awful. It doesn't mean all white people are the same. It doesn't mean any

of that. What it means is in the past...

Was that you with Reza drawing sigils?

What? What do you mean?

Was what me?

Who even looks like me in that photo?

There were terrible things that were done.

And here's us trying to make up for it in some small way to the...

Look, I like Reza.

I like him. he's really smart and i respect him a lot but i motherfucker i was not drawing sigils at any point with anyone.

I don't,

sigils,

I don't know what the hell you're talking about,

man.

The country agrees to,

and we're all on board for.

And sincere apology and a sincere thank you.

And now,

from now on,

let's move forward.

Let's move forward

and cut all the talk of like race this and race that and gender this and gender that from both sides, by the way.

The right wing starts more identity politics than the left wing does.

So now the right wing guys will head, their heads will explode.

What do you mean?

You guys try to find wedge issues on every fucking thing.

And then you go more and more in extreme.

And I think you guys,

Haas, fall into that trap way too often.

Oh, stop calling him Haas.

You're not I fucking hate people who think that I

chose my name to sound like Hassan.

When it was literally Abdul al-Hazrad

from H.P. Lovecraft.

To that later.

Let's get to it now.

What do you mean by that?

So, you know what we're going to talk about, the trans issues.

So on trans issues, as an example, over 60% of Americans agree.

That son is nervous.

Of course they should have the same constitutional rights.

Same rights of housing, employment,

rules, which they already have.

Against discrimination, etc.

Do two, does one third of the country disagree?

Yeah, sad day for them.

Two thirds of the country agrees,

trans people should be protected.

I'm 100% on board for that, right?

And if you're right wingering,

you go, no, man, they're weird, they're different.

They're blah, blah, blah.

And I'm going to hate them.

Well, good, go. Bro,s do not have less rights at all.

It's not a rights issue.

It's a, you know, pronoun, whatever.

That has nothing to do with rights, all right?

I'm not going to hate them, and I'm going to protect them, okay?

But when, so that didn't work for them.

So they went digging. They went digging. So then they go, okay, we should ban trans people from the military. Did you read the New York Times article? I told you to read on this, the last time we had this conversation about how, okay, so. You know they went digging. Yeah. So what you're describing is what I was explaining to you that

the Christian groups, the right-wing Christian

nationalist groups, in the

aftermath of the failed initiative

to do a trans bathroom bill in North Carolina

at a time when Donald Trump was pro-trans,

openly stating he was pro-trans, openly criticizing

the North Carolina

legislation saying leave it as it

is, nobody cares,

Caitlin Jenner can piss in whichever bathroom she wants to

piss in as long as she's pissing in Trump Tower.

When all this stuff was happening,

yeah,

2016,

let me tell you what the fucking steel

of the century was.

You had the GOP

do, yeah, they were pushing the

obsession of trans stuff, whatever, but they were also being helped by these university

retards who were also pushing for a bunch of university trans shit and pronouns or whatever.

So it's like Charlie Kirk's

best friend

was the retarded

like

Triggly Puff.

Remember that

meme from like

2016 or whatever?

Those people

that were like

obsessed with pronouns

and pink hair

and shit.

Bro, they were working together.

Them and the GOP.

Ain't that crazy?

There was definitely a different attitude overall.

I think part of that was because,

just like you also recognize,

most Americans, like,

they just think trans people are being discriminated against and unjustly

and the other reason was because it just seemed like cruel

and unusual for no particular reason.

So what these Christian family groups did

was go back to the drawing board and

you know, hire the likes of you know, maybe Frank Luntz

didn't personally involve himself in this one but like people like Frank Luntz that would go and focus group and test different messages.

Yep. And they arrived at two key points that were resilient. Americans don't necessarily care about trans issues all that much.

But out of frame.

Is it necessary that everyone sees me?

They do care about meritocracy.

And what is the one place where there's true meritocracy in the eyes of many Americans?

Now, there's still not perfect meritocracy, but sports.

Sports is the one area where if you dominate, you know, if you're good, you're going to dominate.

Bro, if Asana's about to say this, listen, the sports thing is like a huge litmus test, all right?

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

The sports thing is a massive, massive litmus.

It's like that is where I consider you not to be in the realm of sanity.

All right.

If you're going to sit here and say that haz can go to the woman's olympics for weightlifting

and i don't even have to do anything but identify a certain way just like the south park episode

that shit is crazy, all right?

Bro, that's cooked.

That's not meritocracy, bro.

That's cooked.

Dominant, then you're going to, you know, you're going to get elevated.

So they packaged anti-trans sentiment with sports and specifically children's sports.

Right?

And that is where we arrive at, what, 60% of the country or even larger percentages than that?

Don't think trans women should be participating in sports with cis women, specifically trans girls,

you know, competing in athletic endeavors

with...

I mean, what's wrong with that?

With cis girls.

Yeah. So that's exactly my point, Haas.

And when they laid that trap, first of all, the right wing should acknowledge.

Haas.

That was identity politics being played by the right wing should acknowledge. Has. That was identity politics being played by the right wing.

The right wing did the...

No, it wasn't.

It was actually happening.

Usain Bolt with a wig was fucking lapping all

of these women

and people were just starting to be like

yo this is like

bro South Park was not doing identity

politics from the right like this was some shit everyone

was seeing happening and it you know you're reading into it too much it's like a very

predictable response by the population to some institutionalized insanity.

They did the studies. They were looking for something

that the American people would hate about

the left, about trans people, about

LGBTQ people. When you go looking

and searching and digging

for on identity.

Don't tell me you're not doing identity politics.

No, no, this is. This is identity politics.

And the right does it all the time.

Now, listen, here's the thing. You understand

this to be a distraction. Like, you recognize

it as a distraction, which is why

I don't think either of us are saying that this should be the pivotal, this should play a pivotal role in the top of the line messaging of the Democratic Party, which is that like, no, trans women have to compete with cis women.

I don't think anyone is making that argument at all.

No.

But I think we should,

you know,

it would serve us both well

to openly recognize

and I think you do as well

that this hyper-focusing

on, you know,

trans athletes at the high school level

all the way to the collegiate level

is,

is a distraction that most Americans might have an

opinion on but don't necessarily care about. It's not a major. I think that's true, but I do

think that the thing is, the reason this one's different is that the noticeable change was recent

and then people started to get up in arms about it pretty organically.

It wasn't just a media push by conservatives.

It was something that actually started to gain traction because of just like observations in real life

driver of turnout it's not something that people go out and vote for no i don't agree

okay well we can we can have that argument in a second i will explain to you why I don't think it's a real issue.

Part of the reason why is that it's just simply not a real issue

because do you know the number of trans athletes nationally?

So I know that is a collegiate level?

No, no, it's microscule.

Look, all it takes is one biological male to completely change the game for any given sport.

So there doesn't have to be a ton all right for it to be very decisive

scopic that's what the number is 40

yeah and so like 20 states

20 red states passed the law against

transgender girls participating in

high school sports and they couldn't name one

transgender girl in their state that participated in high school sports.

Yes.

So I,

that's exactly my point.

Even Spencer Cox vetoed the bill in Utah originally.

All right.

All right.

I have a funny joke.

All right.

See,

can you,

can you imagine if,

uh,

can you imagine if there was like a NCAA,

NCAA,

like,

uh,

national championships,

um, national championships gallery

there's only 40

champions or whatever per year

and all 40 of them

are the transgender

and they couldn't name one transgender girl in their state

that participated in high school sports

Yes

So I

That's exactly my point

We start with agreement

Spencer Cox

vetoed the bill in Utah originally

And he actually wrote like

a pretty compelling argument as to why

he was vetoing it and governors like

Andy Bashar have actually won

by higher margins after openly defending

trans people in the past in a state like Kentucky for example

so look we start with a point of agreement

which is that the right wing

uses a wedge issue to drive a wedge between us.

They go looking for it and they do it based on identity politics.

Okay.

So we totally agree on that.

We totally agree that it's a microscopic issue that affects almost no one in the country.

Okay.

So when we got, we don't have health care for everyone.

This is bullshit.

I don't even think that's true.

This is meant to distract us.

I don't even think it does.

It does.

It does actually impact a lot of cis women.

There's more cis women than there are trans women.

And there are a lot of,

there are a lot of young girls that this could technically impact because now

you have bills like the one in Ohio, the penis inspection

bills, like the one that they

have in Ohio where like one of the parents from the opposing

team could be like, that's a trans girl actually.

And then they have to literally go and

traumatize this like young girl.

So in many instances instances is not, statistically

it is highly unlikely that that person is trans

to begin with. Are you sure?

Like wouldn't it just be a birth certificate?

So, look,

it ends up harming

cis women even more than it ends up harming trans women.

So that's, look, I said this exact same point on train.

This dude, but probably this, honey, he just doesn't live in reality, man.

You just don't fucking live in reality, bro.

In real life, real life is so much more complicated

than this convenient fantasy world

you're creating yeah

I talk to ordinary people and I talk

to them about their concerns

and so does every sensible common sense

person who's talked about this with normal fucking people not plugged in to this fake world Hassan lives in.

And like, yeah, there is a fucking concern about like bathrooms and sports and like, yeah, it's like, bro, you're being overly ideological to, like,

create a new reality.

I'm sorry.

I know what I'm saying doesn't sound sophisticated because I'm not particularly invested in this.

But, you know, people do think that, yeah, being a biological male confers huge advantages when it comes

to sports, which

I mean, it does.

So that's a fact

and you don't need to be a fucking genius

to think that's a little absurd

or unfair.

And their audience hated it.

But this is the reality.

The reason I make a distinction between high school and professional sports is because

in high school, what you're saying is like Ohio, if I really want to institute this,

even though...

Like, bro, Hassan is the type of person

where you could, like,

you could be served a plate of dinner,

and it's literally shit,

and Hassan will be on his stream,

and it's literally a dump,

it's like shit.

It's literally shit.

And he'll be on his stream,

and he'll be like, you know, the thing is just like, it's like so

crazy how like these like, you know, all these like grifters are like pushing this narrative of like

shit on the plate when in reality, yes, was it digested a little bit? Sure, but almost all of the food we eat

has a little bit of traces of digestion in them.

I mean, fertilizer is used to grow all of our food,

so it really doesn't even make a difference when you think,

like, that's the type

person he is.

And all it takes is like simple, bro, that's a dump on my plate at the dinner table.

It's a pile of feces shit, all right?

You don't have, like he, the way he distorts

reality is so,

so twisted.

Well,

there's,

it affects almost no trans or cis girls

if,

in the world,

in Ohio as it is.

Like,

but if I go to implement it,

now I've got to check

everybody's genitals.

And there's got to be a genital checker, right? And let me guess, tons of Republican older men are going to volunteer to check the genitals of our high school kids. And I hate it. I don't want it. It's like a groomer pervert. No, nobody's going to be checked. I don don't I'm going to go full

talking out of my ass

is that real

where they're going to inspect

genitals instead of asking

for birth certificates

because I'm sorry

this is a little retarded

they're not going to do DNA tests to see your chromosomes

they're not going to just check your fucking chromosomes

your birth certificates

I don't buy there's going to be these

inspections.

That just sounds like completely

fake.

And they're going to probably put Jim Jordan in charge of it.

No, okay?

But when you get to the professional level, you get to the Olympic level,

you guys make a giant mistake. You fall right into their trap. And you go, the professional level, you get to the Olympic level, you guys make a giant mistake.

You fall right into their trap.

And you go, oh, yeah, sure.

They should be able to compete.

AP News says it's fake.

How the fuck are these guys grandstanding on fighting misinformation when they're just believing, like,

literal blue-in-on-libtard nonsense.

The overwhelming majority of the American people do not agree with you.

You should let the Olympics and the professional sports decided on their own.

It is not a constitutional right.

They have no so-called right to participate

in the WNBA. I don't have a right to participate in the

NBA. So, number one, I don't agree

when you go to those extremes. And number two, does it

affect elections? Well, we had an overwhelming

answer to that in the Trump

Harris contest.

Donald Trump ran the anti-trans ad, which was not about being hating trans people, although

of course it was perceived as such by a lot of people.

And so, but what it was was saying, hey, you guys are giving free surgery to undocumented

immigrants who are detainees who are trans.

It's too much.

And I agree.

It is too much.

98% of Americans agree.

It is too much, right?

So instead of saying, oh, no, that you guys are right.

That's too much.

And of course, sports leagues, that's fine.

And of course, no, we're not going to pay for any surgery for a dude who just crossed

the border a second ago, right? Instead, you guys go, no, let's fight. Oh, for God's sake. And you dig in,

dig in, dig in. And now we're on a losing ground for no reason at all. I hate these political

commentators that are always citing these extremely specific statistics. Oh, 98%? Not, not, not, not, not, not, not 89%. Oh, wow, that, that really, bro, if you just have common sense and you can have a pulse on just what ordinary people think, because you have common sense. You don't need

statistics at all, all right? And, you know, yeah, oh, the real big difference that it's

fucking 77% instead of 83%.

Like, shut the fuck up.

It's so stupid.

What you're really trying to say

and communicate is like, yeah,

motherfucker, nobody in their right mind.

Like, that's all you're saying.

Right?

Tell me who was, who on the Democratic Party's campaign was actually saying, like, no, we have to issue

bottom surgery for undocumented migrants outside of Kamala Harris saying that, an ACLU questionnaire

in 2019.

When faced with the question, what will you do for trans people?

She just gave that answer, which was a bad answer to give regardless.

But was there like a hyper focus from the Democratic Party's campaign that I'm missing?

So Trump starts running that ad.

And it instantly jumps to the most effective ad according to Trump's internal numbers and according to Kamala Harris's internal numbers. So at that point, that's also not true

David Pluff. Bro, this chat is like cooked as fuck. Holy shit. Then I'm like looking at this chat. I'm

just like shit.

I really said.

And this trans ad was not driving growth.

I mean, the most effective ad point I think they ran was not that.

It was the Bidonomics ad.

On the Potsay of America autopsy that they engaged in with that the ad actually wasn't all that impactful

at all. Yeah, bullshit. I don't believe it. I know

it's not true because future forward

the biggest pact that Kamala Harris

has said that

Democrats are so creepy.

This is why Jank is still a Democrat.

You're not outside of the Democrats until you realize something about ancient laws of human discourse and subjectivity.

You don't fucking run experiments polling people's opinions

you confidently be

like Joe Rogan

sit in front of the fucking campfire

and speak on some real shit

and people will see it and be like

that's some real shit that's how it is

and that's how it works.

In ancient tribal times in hunter-gatherer societies,

motherfuckers were not running around taking polls about people's opinions.

How opinions were determined in the first place was that just authentically,

big motherfuckers were sitting by the campfire,

and they were just like,

they were just like,

you know, man,

Willie Mammoth, big as fuck.

That Willie Mammoth, big as fuck.

Sabretooth Tiger.

Barosh.

That saber tooth tiger coming.

Scary as shit, man.

Facts, that's facts.

Scary as shit, scary.

And like, that's what

you get an idea of how people

think and what, like, that's how it

is. You don't fucking do this thing where

you're like, I have to micro-analize.

I'm like, this is there. You're in like putting on

a lab coat and treating people like mice.

It's fucking stupid.

Just like, be honest about the truth.

This is the difference between Platonic Republicanism and Aristotle democracy.

The... and Aristotle democracy. The platinists are just committed to the truth.

And the Aristotle people are a little more metal.

They care more about the concrete expression of the truth.

The Charlemagne the God version...

They're kind of both wrong, but you know what I mean?

The real way is to

be a pre-Socratic

Lacanian who disguises

their manipulations.

But acts like the guy

at the campfire.

The national polls by two,

not the national polls,

but for people who viewed it,

it moved the numbers by 2.7 points nationally.

Okay.

That is gigantic.

And they said it was the most effective ad Trump had.

That's why he then doubled down.

Bro, shut the fuck.

It's just like fucking, this the fuck. This is like fucking...

This is like...

This is such a weird social engineering.

Like, the ad had a 2.7% shift.

Bro.

Do music artists need to like get data to know if shit's

like a banger or not

probably not right

politics is no different

quadrupled down and wound up spending

20% of his entire ad budget on that ad because both sides thought it was the single most effective ad.

I think that's literally the reason why Kamala Harris was able to actually...

Instead of talking about what either side thinks or what people think, why don't you have an introspection about what you think and how much that's

connected to reality? And I guarantee you that alone will give you much more knowledge about

how people feel about things than these weird studies you're using

to

to fucking scientifically

understand people's opinions

it's fucking stupid

they catch up to her

catch up to Donald Trump on

not only the economy because of their hyper focus on the

trance shit but here's all that helped Kamala Harris? No I don't I think that that Donald Trump on not only the economy because of their hyper focus on the trans shit.

But here's what that helped Kamala Harris?

No, I don't, I think that that this kind of hyper focus on a marginalized group is, is not moving people to go out and vote in any meaningful capacity for some of the reasons that you also mentioned but also because most people don't know who the

trans people are, they've never met a trans person, they don't

give a shit, they just care about the economy.

And when you're hyper-focused on just like

trains people and like dominating

trans people or some shit, even... All right, I'm going to

be, this is my unbiased, neutral take, common sense reality, based on anecdotal

experience.

And if I'm wrong about this being true for most people then I'm not living in reality

all right

but what it really is

the reason a lot of time people are talking

about trans shit

isn't because they care about

transgender people

it's because the more

important point they're trying to make

is the mistrust

they have for

again

the neoliberal institutions or whatever you want to call them, the ruling institutions of society.

Like, when I talk to, like, man, do you believe they're trying to say that men and women are, like, that's what it is.

It's like, they're trying to say that you know people are becoming

retarded and stupid just like south park says it literally just like south park like south park has

such a good pulse on the feelings of the american masses it's crazy but it's like, it's that. It's not that like, it's not like some like, you know, rationalistic thing where they're like, oh, you know, this is going to affect me. No, it's just like it's more about who they trust and who they don't trust.

And that does, for the same reason that people from a conservative perspective are, know complaining about transgender stuff they're also looking

at biden who's like yeah the democrats the best it's sorry the economy's the best it's ever been ever

and they're like clearly everyday real life experience contradicts that so they're like

yeah we're being lied to like all around even on issues as fundamental as like sexuality or whatever

so that is what that's where it's coming from.

It's really simple to understand.

They agree with it.

I'm not saying it's a good thing or a bad thing.

I'm just trying to tell you like what it is.

They're like after a certain point, there is an outrage fatigue.

And I think on the trans issue,

like consultants and people who are hyper focused on the media care

far more about the effectiveness

of ads like that than the actual Americans

that went out and voted. And you saw this reality.

They won. No, I know, but okay.

I mean, like, it's so in the real

world, it, Americans

don't vote on issues. They don't

vote on issues. They vote.

Voting is incredibly psychological.

It has nothing to do with real issues.

I'll tell you that.

They won, we lost.

In the world of consultants where they look at polling,

that's why you have to look at the

broader campaign and what Americans

were concerned with and why they voted

in the ways that they did.

And I think here's where you and I agree on.

So your position is,

even though both sides overwhelmingly say

that ad was the most effective ad,

but dumb asses. Do you agree?

There are a million people

that are both in your replies

that have also gotten mad at me as well

time and time again on specific issues.

I hate, I thought I hate this debate because it's them just getting too fucking meta.

Johnny, appreciate it. It's both of them getting too meta about what the voters want instead of talking about what

the truth is.

And you

if you can't

be honest about what the truth is, you'll never

connect with the masses. That's just the truth.

Maybe ones that even

pertain to trans rights. It literally doesn't matter. People

get very passionate understanding. I'm very understanding. I agree. There's 13 douchebags online.

That's what I said from day one. I know, but why the fuck would you ever hyper focus on people like that?

No, no, no. So you might be doing the right thing. Hold on.

You're doing the Bill Mar thing. You're demanding

that they're a sister. Bosh. Hold on. Let me explain. No, bullshit.

No, you're trying to. Okay. So the minute we said, the most reasonable things on earth,

which you now agree with apparently, then what happened? It wasn't just the 13 douchbags online.

And by the way, everybody said, No, no, no, those 13 douchebags represent all the left. You're not on the left anymore because

13 douchebags

controlled the left.

And then what happened

next?

Then majority report jumped in

and Lance from the serves

and all the other little dirtbags

jumped in and they're like,

Oh, he doesn't like the majority report now.

I thought they were best friends freaking douchebags are right we need to protect every

every trans person

just everything in China

you gotta stop

they're Nazis

you gotta okay

I mean I'm 100% right

every dirtbag show did it

you got to come down

every dirtbag show did it

tell me I'm wrong

this is

reframing an issue

that is

now we've moved away from the electoral consequences

of a trans ad to your own personal anger and frustration

that you have with left wing media online.

We are 11, we are 11,

we are 11,

I have, and in a tiny stupid minority.

I have disagreements with everyone in the space,

but there's a reason why, seemingly,

I don't catch the same amount of strays

that you do, because I don't hyper-focused.

Because you're a fucking grifter!

What do you think it is? They think you're

hot, young? I don't mean attractive. God bless on that,

okay? I'm also obviously hot.

I mean, you don't catch strays because you, uh,

because you're too scared to upset anyone.

Except us, by the way, which you're going to regret, right?

As in they think, oh, young people watch Hassan.

He's cool.

And you give the thing of like, oh, no, no, trans people are right on everything, right?

You don't come out and make the distinctions that Anna and I made.

Okay, so they think, oh, no, he's good.

He's extremists.

We are.

I think the reason, first of all, you're... Okay, by the way, majority report and all of you guys, you better attack him.

He apparently agrees with me, okay?

You better attack him.

I don't...

You're not gonna attack him, are you?

You're hyper personalizing this into, like,

criticism that you've received.

What?

Why are you hyper personalizing it?

Because myself, you, majority report. But I never changed my policy.

All of this is inconsequential in the grand scheme of things.

And whenever there's like drama, for example,

I've been getting attacked mercilessly by my former podcast co-host that has been actively trying to de-platform me for the past two months because

he thinks that, or he's claiming, that I am creating a space that is anti-Semitic.

he thinks that, or he's claiming, that I am creating a space that is anti-Semitic.

The way I've dealt with that, for the most part, is by just actively ignoring it leading up to the election because I was like, this is some silly nonsense.

And in the, in the aftermath, I covered some of the broader points, and I moved on.

If you extend the, if you extend the conflict that way, instead of trying to find a reasonable

middle ground and even show humility of course

and even show humility instead of saying

I'm right

there's never going to be any sort of

real solidarity of you bunch of course

idiots who are wrong

because I like what's humility mean

like maybe you're right about your dumb opinion that's going to cost us this? Maybe you're right about your dumb opinion

that's going to cost us this election.

Maybe you're right about your dumb opinion

that gets the majority of the country to hate us

when our economic prepositions

are overwhelmingly popular.

Maybe you making us intensely unpopular

when we should be focusing on universal health care,

higher wages, pay family leave.

But you idiots hate policy.

All you want is identity politic bullshit.

Of course!

Drives ratings, and you want me to show humility to those morons?

No, none, zero.

Let's have a meta-conversation really quickly about the ways in which brand branding works online.

I am of this mindset that every single person

is far too big

and far too self-involved

to pay attention

to the more nuanced conversations

that others are having

on any particular issue.

This is why,

even when there is like

a faucet of smears

that I am attacked with

with clips that are

completely out of context.

I address it and I move on.

And I come at this conversation with an understanding that most people are not fully aware

of what my analysis is on any particular matter.

This has happened in the past with me purchasing a house where people made a big deal about it.

Like even back then, I said, look, people are angry,

people are frustrated with their position in society,

people are frustrated with a lack of opportunity.

And in that problem,

they see rich asshole like myself,

you know, buy a house.

They're going to get mad at me.

And there's a healthy amount of anger

towards wealthy people there

that I agree with as well.

Such a cock-like response. I think that they're misdirecting their anger at the wrong person, but ultimately

I move on. If I see, you know

what would earn Hassan respect?

If he started like doubling down

and flaunting his wealth,

being like, yeah, you broke bitches.

I'm a Gucci communist,

you broke bitch.

If he did that,

people would respect him.

I'm not even kidding.

I spent every waking moment covering...

I kind of understand.

I get it.

Bro, it's...

You don't even get it, bro.

You don't even get why people are mad.

It's not for what you think.

It's because you literally just won't own up to it

still pretending to be like morally superior

and it's completely fake nobody's morally superior

it's a dog eat dog world bitch

eat or be eaten

that's true for all of us individually the only way we get out of that

is through a collective a commitment to a collective endeavor or movement or initiative or something that's just not personal you can't

personalize the morality of a loftier higher collective existence such as a movement or a party or something.

No, the anger that I'm receiving.

And if I spend every waking moment covering...

People hate you because you try to, like, present yourself as like this moral person.

You're not, bro.

We're all fucking dirty in this world.

Things that are out of context. Then I'm not going to not going to be able to I'm just going to be that I'm going to be the person who's responding to drama all the fucking time

when I feel like there are far larger more consequential issues at play

now let me take the other side on the matter of section on not only a very small

sliver of society that is, in your, honest opinion,

has been openly targeted as like

the major reason as to why people are angry

is offering legitimacy to the right wing position.

I think there's a more effective way of communicating that.

And it's something that I do.

You being meta is why people hate you.

Because if you're meta, you think you're better than people and you're not.

Regular basis, which is, this is a simple distraction.

You don't care about this.

And the people that do hyperfixate on this are weird and gross.

Leave people alone.

Let people live.

These people are your friends.

And they and yourself are more aligned on class issues in more meaningful ways than you think.

Tim Walt does a fantastic job with this

and Andy Bashar is not a fantastic job with this.

They're both very popular governors

that you like as well.

But that's literally my position.

All right, so listen.

But the reason why people don't think that's your position

is because people see the clips.

People see clips out of context.

I know, because what do they do?

They see clips on dushbag shows who are purposely misrepresenting our position. He's literally a Democrat. I didn't know he's like so pro-democrat

governors. So Hassan can be like praising

Democrat governors, but

we're going to get flack for what?

For having memes

with Trump and them?

And pretending that we're against all trans rights.

So your position to that is surrender.

Okay.

And no, I never surrender.

So look, and here, let me explain why.

Why do I think that's surrender?

Because we've tried this, Haas.

So, dude, let's, on that matter conversation.

So we tried it with Trump.

So Young Turks, viewers will remember in the beginning when he first started

running in 2015,

I thought he was so illegitimate

that he was doing such a,

he was doing it as a con,

which by the way,

turned out to be wrong,

Trump.

And we blurred out his face.

We like first we didn't show him,

then we blurred out his face.

And then eventually we gave up the beast never works. So then I remember when when David Rubin came out and started lying

100% lies.

Lie after lie after lie.

We ignored it because we're like

what that's mental, right?

But then the lie started to take root

because he goes on Joe Rogan.

And Joe Rogan's like,

oh really?

Tell me more.

Oh my God.

Dave Rubin's so right.

And then he went on like 100 shows.

And so then Ben Shapiro and Daily Wire comes up. More gigantic and Crowder comes up. And we're like, oh, these are pimples on our ass.

Who cares about Shapiro?

He's so small.

Crowder, who cares?

He's tiny. He's microscopic.

Who cares?

And we didn't address them.

And you know what happened?

They festered and festered and festered.

And next thing, you know, Dave Rubin, everybody evil nefarious purpose or something. Then we started fighting back and we crushed that motherf. Now he's a laughing stock.

So whenever anybody thinks of Dave Rubin, they're like, oh yeah, he's that dumb guy.

But that's not because of you. That's also because of majority report. I know. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know. When we fight not

everybody hurts. No, the point is it's not. It's not just you.

We never get into. The reason why I'm bringing up majority report and myself in this process is because ultimately we are all aligned on virtually every single issue. So in many respects, you feel chastised.

Oh, how this is such a disc... I'm like from another universe. These are all scum to me. Majority report and who are all together in this?

You fucking scum.

Fidually you feel like you...

Fucking Oreznik.

Send an Oresnik

In a video game.

What a fuck?

We're in the majority of part

we're all lip torts together

or what you fucking lip?

Bro and you're trying to call us

right wing?

You're literally right wing.

Ever like the media representation

of the left?

I'm the left.

Okay.

No, 100%

Okay, please, please just listen.

No, I'm being, no, because we have to,

but you're not the singular

for-s.

They're making everyone

think they are the left.

They're like,

we're the left,

we're the left.

No, we're the left.

What the fuck are you guys?

You guys are freaks.

The majority report,

literal AOC lip tards. You guys are fucking right-wing sinus.

Free surgery.

For every criminal,

yes, we're the left.

And not see,

notcy, notcy,

notcy, gnatzy.

And Huss, what happens?

People think they are?

And then, here's us,

Wagner group.

The left.

So if you say you're right,

Jake, those are the extreme idiot left.

I don't think those are the extreme idiot left. I think that there is

going to be diversity of thought in any issue

that people have. And it's a matter of who you make

your enemies in the finite amount of time that we have on the space,

the finite amount of time that we have, you know, living on planet

Earth, it's about the economy of time and utilizing it appropriately. I don't spend any time.

I do not spend any time. Just let me attack you and sit there and don't correct anything. Let all

the lies fester. I, okay, well, you didn't let me finish. So Dave Rubin, now he's a laughing stock.

Then Jimmy Dorr comes in. Because Dave Rubin is a right winger.

The majority report is not. Bro, now they're talking shit about Jimmy Dor.

So you're saying, you're in agreement with the majority of war.

Hold on. Let me talk.

Bro, they're dead.

They're so cooked.

They're eating them.

Jank is underperforming big time,

by the way.

I thought it was going to be like,

bro, this is desperation.

They're like,

going to be like, bro, this is desperation.

They're like, bro, Jimmy Dore's sitting and laughing at all this. They're eating each other.

Idiots. So on Jimmy Dore,

he comes in and goes, oh, they're paid by Nancy Pelosi. They're paid by the CIA.

Lunatic, right? And so we let it fester.

We let a fester. Finally, we're like, get this f*** out of here. And we tell the people truth and we crush him. Now he's a joke on the internet, right? So we go on and on.

And anytime we don't fight, it festeres. Anytime we do

fight, we crush them and we move the fuck on.

And nobody thinks Jimmy Doors is the left anymore. Nobody thinks Dave Rubin's the left anymore.

And so now...

Ah. Ah, you bitch!

You fucking bitch.

Jimmy Dorr was saying the same shit

that you're saying now,

but now he's not on the left anymore.

Why?

Because he was early.

See, this is where this motherfucker

crossed the line

what the hell

Jimmy Dor had me on to talk about North Korea

bro and he was open to that shit

his co-host wasn't

but

yeah this guy's a joke bro

he said Jimmy Dore got crushed

Jimmy Dora laps the fuck out of young Turks

this guy's racist against non-liberals

yeah he's their bro

this is a racist

This guy's racist

Fuck this

He said

Nobody thinks Jimmy Dore's on the left anymore

Yeah, well

They will

Once the real left

Takes its rightful place

Which is us

Come and attack us

Go

Yeah, we do that

We don't crush them.

Just let them fester

and people pretend that they're the real left.

No, we don't do that.

You're not.

We're going to say stupid shit

and you're going to try to punch us in the face.

We're going to punch you back, not on our behalf.

On behalf of Democratic voters

who you are lying about.

The Democratic voters do not agree with you. They agree with us. So sad for you. Fuck the Democratic voters. Fuck you and send in Wagner Rup.

I'm not going to let you lie and pretend the Democratic voters are on your side.

You're a fucking liar. And they're not on your side.

Do you agree that the Democratic voters are on my side?

I don't care what Democratic voters are on, whichever side they're on right now.

We've lost the now. We've lost

the plot. We've completely lost the plot because now the conversation

is about like the serfs or or majority

report and I think that's a completely

an early, unproductive conversation to have. That's who he's

defending Democratic voters.

The guys who like support

Ukraine, Nazis?

I don't really feel like we should make alliances with Nazis and fascists.

Sorry, Jank, you're far right, extreme right wing fucking friends.

Need an Erznik in a video game.

Yeah, Gryfter's on the left attack you.

Whether there's a real good.

I think Cedars are Gryffter.

I disagree.

Okay.

Oh, by the way, you said, no, all of a sudden,

you're defending Cedar.

When he calls me a Gryfter,

you don't defend.

I, first of all,

I've never heard.

I was Sam Cedar on the left,

but not Jimmy Dore.

Jimmy Dore is far to the left of Sam Cedar.

Him call you a grifter.

He's called me every're in the same network,

he starts attacking Jimmy door. And I say, cut the shit out. I agree with you, not Jimmy, but you're attacking him in a way that is over the top

and totally unnecessary and counterproductive. And you know what Sam said to me?

Sam said, oh, well, he has a bigger audience than me. So if I do that,

I'm going to siph wrong and the audience deserves to hear my truth. So you agree, but you agree with me.

And I told him not to do it. But you agree with him that Jimmy Dorr is, is... No, no, this is pre-Jimmy going full right-wing, full lunatic.

Okay, but...

Wow.

That particular issue, they were debating about...

I agreed with Sam and not Jimmy.

How is Jimmy right wing?

I don't mind him saying, I don't agree with Jimmy.

What I mind it is him saying, oh, Jimmy is terrible and bad in tandem, blah, blah, blah, but brother, he hasn't been done that yet.

He disagrees with Jimmy Dorr on this particular.

But what was it on?

What was it on?

He says, I don't even remember.

It's irrelevant.

What He says, I don't even remember. It's irrelevant. What he says is he literally told me,

I try to take other people's audience by getting into there basically next to their algorithm, right?

Can we?

So if you guys in 10,

you're saying if you deem him right...

Bro, this whole shit is crazy.

Like, why don't you just fight each other in real life?

When, you should attack him.

But if you deem left wing, you should let him lie about you.

You should let him call you every name in the book.

You should let him pretend he represents the left.

When he doesn't...

Jimmy Doors not right wing.

He doesn't represent the right.

You should let him trick people into thinking

that the Democrats are super unpopular,

that the left wing is super unpopular.

No, I'm not going to let him trick people into thinking that. Okay, listen. Sam Cedar or any number of different left-wing content creators have no bearing on the actual policies that the Republican right are

implementing. No, they don't. You're out of your mind. No, no, no, Monica Harrison, 2019, say on tape

that transgender detainees should get surgery if they're undocumented. She said it because

hold on, let me finish.

Because there was enormous pressure.

There was enormous pressure from the radical left to say, oh, yeah,

you've got to be pro-transgender detainee immigrant surgery.

You have to, otherwise you're not left enough.

And she's an idiot.

She doesn't have any thoughts in her head.

She got, she was like, okay, I'll adopt that position.

that position. And it was because of the extreme left that she adopted that position. Because she's an empty

vessel. You are literally attributing

the consistent thing that

you also... Jank literally made a tweet recently

where he was like, I can't

believe what's going on. It's like a breath of fresh air. The establishment was

defeated.

When Trump won, we're in the populist jungle now.

It's like, bro, it's 2024.

This was true in, this was true in 2016.

I just found out of my guy named Nick Land.

And I'm all the CCRU.

I totally get it now.

I'm freaking, I bought this new

cryptocurrency called Ethereum.

It's like, jank, it's like at $5,000 now. You know, I bought Ethereum at $70.

No, you won't believe me. But I did. I bought Ethereum at $70. I paid $70 for my Ethereum's each.

I didn't get a lot of them,

but I got...

I got Ethereum coins for $70 a pop.

How much did I buy? Not enough.

But fuck.

I was early to this shit, man.

Bad politician with bad instincts and did not have a good way to

communicate what she would have done differently

for trans people to fucking majority report

and any number of different like extreme leftist outlets

that literally get a fraction of views that I get

in this regard like no disrespect to them

but like all of us combined do not have the same motion

you're talking about the street

so nobody knows everybody thinks you're extreme left

everybody thinks that you're the woke left

extraordinary right so like and why do they think that apparently You never fight them so nobody knows. Everybody thinks you're the weak left. Everybody thinks that you're the woke left extraordinary.

Right? So like, and why do they think that?

Apparently you don't agree.

But they think that because you don't actually ever fight.

Yes, they do.

The reality is the way that people are presented, uh, by others ends up changing, uh, the,

the perception that they have in the minds of a lot of people that are not

simply just not paying attention i come at it from a much more understanding point of view

and i understand that there is a large there is a large tent of people with a diversity of

different opinions and there are moments where i will yell at a chatter do these people not realize

that we are the left wing?

We are the left.

We're literally the left wing now.

Who are these weird right wing freaks?

These guys are weird right wing freaks.

All right?

We're the left wing.

They're not even part of the conversation anymore, all right were the left wing they're not even

part of the conversation

anymore

right

that in terms of

of the finite amount of time

we have

spending I find

like they're not in the thick of it

they're not debating

about the Bolsheviks

and shit like we are

they're not even part of the conversation

they're out of it right about the Bolsheviks and shit like we are. They're not even part of the conversation.

They're out of it.

Productive to spend it,

focusing on the actual people who hold the levers of power,

rather than people who I'm aligned with

almost entirely, whether it be yourself

with some very major disagreements

or even Sam Cedar and the like

i'm talking about ethereum this is a signal no no no no no no no no no i don't touch crypto

i don't fucking touch crypto i don't touch crypto i don't touch crypto after 2017. I don't even touch

it. I haven't gone near it.

Because I'm not an idiot. Don't fucking buy

Ethereum. Don't buy anything. Fucking

Rob Banks in a video game.

Don't fucking do this dumb... do it if you know you're doing I don't

so I can't recommend anything to you

presenting yourself as an intellectual

presenting yourself as the opposite of these people

serves no purpose it just only makes you look like you're the moderate voice in here and they're the extreme voices and whatever. But it's, but it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Just make your argument and move on and focus on the things that do matter. Because they're the ones that's so because because intent matters, Haas, intent matters. Look, you know how many people disagree with me and young Turks hosts. So I just giant trans. Same exact debate we're having about the trans ad with Jordan Yule and with Jules, so does dev. I can't, this is the one time I get a wrong Jules.

I love those guys. Francescas in our network. I disagree with them all the time. We have the debates

on here. There's nothing wrong with those debates. That's wonderful. No problem at all. Where I draw the line is bad intent. Yeah, when I have disagreements with, with any number of different people on any other networks. I say, ultimately, I don't care.

We are aligned in this fight.

We care about protecting undocumented immigrants.

We care about protecting trans people.

And I'm not going to care.

I'm not going to pay too much attention to this.

Because ultimately, I don't, I don't give a shit if there are disagreements.

I have disagreements with...

Wow, these are literally libtards in a libtard coalition.

That's what it is. So we have

like self-proclaimed MLs

who act like they're really hardcore

MLs, but this is actually

the community they're signaling to and

drawing from.

Just like straight up Libtar Democrats who all like, yeah, we kind of disagree a little bit on imperialism and, you know, Ukrainian Nazis.

But ultimately, we're for trans rights.

That's the most important thing.

What the fuck? I think someone is almost entirely aligned with me on a lot of these key. we're for trans rights. That's the most important thing. The fuck.

I think someone is almost entirely aligned with me on a lot of these key issues.

Then I see no reason.

And they call you a Nazi and a grifter.

You say, okay.

It doesn't matter.

People call me all of it.

I think it's ridiculous.

But if it's coming from the right,

if it's coming from the right,

then you can use that as an opportunity to show why they're ridiculous. No, but let's get back to politics. So why does anybody think

we're extreme, right? Why does anybody think the left is extreme? Because they have a whole

bunch of hosts that they could point to and thought leaders and people online. Yeah, myself included.

Right, that they point to and they go look at these extreme positions that they have. So that's taints the rest of the left. And that is counterproductive. It's unfair and it's inaccurate. So stop pretending

the most extreme positions are the most left wing positions.

They are not. They're the least representative of the left.

I think hyper-focusing on what the right

is considering to be the most extreme positions

is only giving it more air for no reason.

The migrants decide the election.

It's like Libthards live in a different reality.

They're actually the scum of the earth and they don't even live in our reality.

It's crazy.

Losing that battle.

This is why I said this is a sister.

They're like, they're like, oh, they don't even know what like normal people think.

I've never met a fucking normal person who likes these people who's not a fucking, like...

I have never come across a person at any gym in America who thinks like this.

I've... I don't really... Gr've, I don't really,

granted,

I don't really talk to people at the gym,

but like,

I'm just saying,

like,

I've never come across

these people in real life

outside of college campuses

and, like,

professional institutionalized settings.

So where they're being paid

to be libtards

where you're like

identifying someone to your left

that is more extreme than you

to show everybody how moderate you are

and there's no reason to do that

them how moderate democratic voters are

there's no reason to brainwashed people

thinking that democratic voters are lunatics

who by the way let's argue this there's no crime exists there's no reason to do that there's no reason. Because if brainwashed people, they're thinking that Democratic voters are lunatics, who by the way, let's argue this.

They say that no crime exists. There's no reason to do that. There's no reason to do that.

Donald Trump is president. You never see Republicans do that. Even if they do actually

disagree. Even if they do actually disagree. It doesn't matter. There's no reason. There's no reason to ever turn around. I disagree with these people. You're 100% wrong on this. So let's look at California. So you say it doesn't matter.

I'll be real quick.

You can keep going.

We'll talk about crime this second.

Go ahead.

All right.

So look, guys.

I want to clarify something that's important.

There are three different.

So I agree on all that.

And under no circumstances,

would I naively think, oh my God, I think Holly and Gates are just the most pure people and so is Trump and we should

vote for them

and hope for the best

cross your fingers,

right?

And oh,

we should trust

about everything.

No, but when they say

I agree with you,

I have a revolutionary

idea, say yes.

Okay, so let's see

if we can cut the Pentagon, when they don't cut the Pentagon, it creates a little bit of pressure for them, right?

I don't think it does. That's what Jimmy yours said fucking 10 years ago.

I will see, but I don't think that they're going to cut it.

They're just lying because they're better room readers than the Democratic Party is.

But you agree that when I said that and Elon agreed and Don Jr. agreed.

The reason they agreed is not because of me, they didn't have a shit about me.

It's because there was thousands and thousands of right wing populace who said, yeah.

But ultimately it's going to be business as usual is my point.

And then the right in the populace will see that, hey, it might turn out that Trump is just as full of shit as the Democrats.

And that was the whole point of supporting Bernie in 2015.

Not because anyone had faith in Bernie

and if you did, you were retarded, sorry.

But that's why, because

they were like, look, yeah, he's not going to,

we don't trust him, but it's a process,

you know?

At this stage, I think it's literally,

and it was what I responded to you with as well.

It's like that Republicans at least understand

that like it's good to lie to win elections,

whereas Democrats have completely even dropped that principle

where they're like, or that's not even true.

They lie about the lamest shit possible.

They're like, they're not going to fucking do a $50,000

tax credit for startups. But why the fuck are you lying about that? Lie about health care instead.

If you're going to lie about something, lie about something good. And the Democrats are, the

Democrats are literally, they've given up on lying about good shit that they're not going to follow

through on in an effort to win elections because they're just, they're playing the role of controlled opposition at this point where they, I think they're comfortable losing to Trump. They're comfortable fundraising off of

Trump's victory. They're comfortable not having to legislate. So I slightly disagree with that.

What son ignores is how there's a uniparty. He ignores that. He just ignores it.

It's a degree because what it is

in the old days, we just had a uniparty. Corporate Republicans

and Corporate Democrats. They all pretended that fight.

Oh, how did I fucking predict that?

It's good cop, bad cop. And the corporate media would come in and go,

oh my God, they disagree so much. Oh, my God, bipartisanship broke out.

They have agreed to text us for the rich. Everybody celebrate bipartisanship is so good. And corporate Republicans and Democrats would go, yay, bipartisanship. Help

the rich. Help the rich. So that's the game that was played for almost my whole life. Then Bernie

came along and said, no, this is bullshit. All they're doing is helping the rich. That's my wing of the Democratic Party, economic populace. I love that. That is true. That was a first brick through the window of the establishment,

right, rhetorically, metaphorically,

politically.

And then Trump came along

and Trump realized what you're saying,

which is, oh,

populism works.

Look at Bernie.

Look at this.

But it came to it at the same time.

He was, yeah, he was already,

I think it was unique positions. But what he did was he tested all these positions because he was sometimes even in the same appearance or in the same speech would say two things that diverts from one another. We're the opposite of one another.

And he would see what the crowd cheered more, right? So he realized,

oh, these are the populist positions of the right wing likes, and he went in that direction.

And hence, and we've talked about this before.

The example I always used is a guy in Western Virginia in 2016 election.

One in Western Virginia in 2016 election. One of our reporters in... Richard O'Hodda? No, no, it's a rando.

He's a guy who's doing actually a strike for higher wages

at Waffle House.

He was leading that strike.

And he said, look,

why do people here,

why are they sporting Trump over Hillary?

Because Hillary says all the coal mining jobs

are gone and they're never coming back.

And Trump tells we know he's full of shit, but at least he has a decency to lie to us. Right? So that goes exactly to your point. That's right. So when I don't want the politicians

to lie at all, but that's all they ever do, right?

So for the Democrats, they thought, oh no, Trump's a liar,

but our guys are angels. That's so naive. That's so naive. It hurts the brain. I don't think anybody in this community thinks that the mainstream media. We are the activist left that is too woke for

and punishing the good reputation of the Democratic Party. Yeah. In your

estimation. Probably. I disagree. All right. And you should tell me what name to call

you guys. But but so Trump, so and I would say to the right ring guys, if you think the

the establishment Democrats are obviously lying, did it ever occurdy that Trump might also be lying? It's the same exact thing I tell to the Democrats. Trump might also be lying. Did it ever occurdy that Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden might also be lying? Yeah. I mean, I'm not saying to you. I'm saying to you, I'm saying to you're like the establishment Democrats, right? It's never occurred you. Maybe he does have cognitive decline. And but right way, I'm asking you the same thing that it ever occurred you that maybe Donald Trump also lies.

And he lies a lot.

And he's trying to give you guys what he thinks you want so he can win the election.

But if you hold him accountable after the election, I'm here for it.

Okay.

But if you don't hold him accountable and you let him lie to you and all he does is corporate

tax cuts again.

Well, then, okay, then you're just as much as sucker as the establishment. Yeah, these guys don't understand.

They don't get it, bro.

They don't get it.

They don't get it.

They don't get it.

They don't get it.

They're never going to get it.

Like, they don't get it.

They don't get it. They don't get it. You know what Jank's problem is?

He's always trying to sell people shit.

That's honestly what it is.

He's like, oh, he's, no, no, listen, I do it.

You don't fucking get it, bro. Thank you. literally like instead of saying Trump is like a bad guy and he's going to betray you

this is all you need to tell people just be like yo he's going to betray you. This is all you need to tell people.

Just be like, yo, he's a clone.

It's like not even the real Trump.

He's a clone this time.

They'll be like, oh, really?

I haven't thought of that.

It's like, bro, you don't know how to talk to people.

You don't even understand like how people think about politics.

It's crazy.

They're not going to do that.

I don't think they're going to do that.

Maybe I'm wrong, but they didn't do it the first time

and they're not going to do it this time either.

And I don't even think that there is any sort of real mission.

Just say he's like blackmail

This is how you do

When you make it personal and you're like

Oh no one's gonna

Nobody you're not tuned in

You don't understand the appeal of Trump

If that's where you're going for

Sheen in this country as a direct consequence

of the labor force

and labor unions being

gutted out year over year

by corporate back

Democrats and Republicans alike

that there's no

mechanism of pushback

to begin with

and you can do like

a pussy hat wearing

women's marches or whatever

but ultimately it doesn't

really change the trajectory

of the country

and there's no better

demonstration of both Uniparty and the inability of either party to actually

respond to any sort of public pressure was most, was best demonstrated by the Palestinian,

where the pro-Palestinian movement in this country that was massive.

And what the f*** the Democrats do?

They went back.

They went to the colleges.

And they were like, you're all Hamas.

You love Hamas.

You're all back by Iran. And you know what? There isn't. There isn't enough faith in the people. I think that's what it is. Like, look, people who voted for Trump for obvious reasons. You don't need to trick them into not liking Trump. Okay, when a world war happens or whatever is going to happen under Trump, just be real, man.

It's just about being real, straight up.

I'm saying this as a Lacanian manipulator.

Like, you just got to be real about shit.

You don't have to manipulate all these

psychologies or whatever. You just gotta be real. The worst thing you can do is treat Trump like an Oediple father who you have to, you know, oh, he betrayed me, he did this, he did that.

Look, the president doesn't matter that much, all right?

You need to change.

People don't understand something, all right?

You need to change the narrative itself.

Instead of accepting the narrative framework that Trump is the primary subject of American

politics, you have to change the narrative itself.

You have to change the framing. You can't just accept that and say, oh, I hate Trump, or he's a traitor, or he's going to betray you, or he's conning you, he's a con man. No, you just have to say something like, it doesn't matter who the president is.

You know, just be real.

And then they started arresting campus administrators.

Not only did they arrest them, but they added significant penalties

to demonstrating on college campuses

and the Uniparty continued. So I don't think that

people give a shit.

I mean, look at BLM. Black Lives Matter protests happened massively. Massively consequential,

supposedly. It happened globally. It was supposed to be truly impactful. The Democrats did what you wanted, which is they had their sister soldier moment. For those of you don't know,

they basically said, we are not this. These guys are terrorists. They're too far left. They're too woke.

What happened as a consequence of that?

Joe Biden,

Joe Biden, no, we're talking about

the Democratic Party.

They're not going to a sister soldier.

He won.

I don't agree with you

that I'm doing a sister soldier.

You guys are almost doing it in reverse.

Do you see,

do you see the when I say the Democratic Party said we're determining in the limited time that we have to not necessarily get to the heart of the problem

with this groundswell of demonstrations

that took place instead of addressing the root cause

of this and saying this is our policy prescription

and that and that you know there

has to be some real changes made. They said

those guys are extreme. We love funding the police. We're going to fund the police extra fucking hard and that, you know, there has to be some real changes made. They said, those guys are extreme.

We love funding the police.

We're going to fund the police extra fucking hard.

And that the Republicans don't actually want to fund the police as hard as we want to fund the police.

And while Joe Biden won by 42,000 votes over, you know, key states, it ultimately did not

change the dynamic in favor of the Democratic Party.

They completely dropped that.

They completely dropped the police reform. They built, it can't wait, as a

countermeasure in the same way that like the Republican think tank

heritage foundation had originally created Obama's ACA as a countermeasure

towards socialized medicine. They built up something else. Just like Joe Biden

said, oh, I'm going to do the public option, which was simply just a countermeasure to Medicare for all to say,

we have a solution, it's a better solution, backed by, you know, corporate media,

and pumped it even though he...

Bro, lip tards are crazy.

I'm sorry, I wanted to go in this rooting for jank, but...

Ah, it's just like these

like L.A. Liptards, just like, he's like, they're all

strong. I don't know what's going on. What's going on? I don't know what's

going on. We're trying to find out what's going on.

And no reason or no interest in genuinely advancing

even the public option. The Democrat said, we're going to do it can't wait.

Okay? It was significantly limited.

And then they spent the entire time saying

these guys, these radical leftists,

these radical BLM protesters,

they are not us.

They're different than us.

Did the public actually look at that

and go, wow, their Democrats are so reasonable.

They want to fund the police.

They're not representing here trying to figure their shit out and we are literally living in 2078. Like bro, I was here in like 2001 when I was like five years old.

All right. This is crazy.

We are so far ahead of these people. It's fucking great.

It scares me. great it scares me

it actually scares me I'm like what

this was me like 20 years ago

in the party no they didn't they just saw the Democrats

still in the same exact way people just had a really good point

on so many issues okay no it's the same because you're like

sitting here trying to figure their shit out

and like I'm already here

I'm like bro you realize like we're on a Chinese spaceship

right now right

and like all of this is an illusion

and we're just heading straight for communism.

I'm not complaining issues I'm complaining issues. I'm complaining the same, I'm explaining

the same principle that, that Democrats,

the same trap that Democrats fall into

every single time. People who judge

actually, ironically, a really solid take on this, even though I

don't like him at all and I'm terrified of him.

Here's what he said. No matter what we do, whether we want the public option or whether we want

Medicare for all, Republicans are going to always call a socialist. So at a certain point,

you should just advance your agenda and move on. They're going to call a socialist whether we're

in favor of that or not in favor of that. So just do good... Jibber, gibber.

Policies. That's the first and last time I've ever agreed with people to judge.

So let me break you down.

So I think there's three wings of the Democratic Party.

Oh, it's such like

discourse gibber babble,

commentary babble.

There's the establishment Democrats

or corporate Democrats,

same thing.

We can call my establishment guys.

Okay.

You know,

I don't believe in any of this.

I believe in Wagner Group.

I don't believe in this.

Like, oh,

Peep,

Peaboo, and the mayor of them.

And I believe in getting a tank

and just fucking bulldozing everything

with a tank.

That's what I believe in.

Neither one of us agrees with that.

So then I think there is the economically populous wing that Bernie 2016 represented perfectly.

That's exactly where Anna and I are and generally Young Turks are.

But Young Turks, TYT as a network is broad and it has all the different types of Democrats.

Okay.

So then the last wing is what I'm struggling to find a word on. I mean, Bernie had

a significant criminal justice reform in his agenda that I don't think you

would agree with. No, it depends on the criminal justice reform we're talking

about. It always depends. So, and so the

last wing is what I would call the extreme left, but you can come up or identity

or left. Sorry.

I'm just laughing about the future. These guys are going to be so surprised.

Where do you want to use?

Okay.

So when you go to elections, my whole lifetime,

Democrats have done the thing that you were talking about,

but they've done it largely about economic issues.

So the Republican will say, oh, hey, they're...

What do you mean?

There's a crazy terrorist in the Rocky Mountains

who freaking believes he's bringing back Tartaria

and they're taking over towns

and they got RPGs and they

freaking Wagner Group

I'm going to cut defense. Can you believe they're going to cut

defense? They're weak on defense and then

Donnelly in Indiana, McCaskill in Missouri, etc. would come out and go

no way, man.

They said we're weak on defense

and I'm not a normal dirtbag liberal

that hates defense

and he's going to get you all killed,

okay?

I'm just like the Republicans,

man.

I want to spend more on defense.

That is not a moderate position

and that is not a position

that agrees with the populist left.

is not a position that.

That is an establishment Democrats saying

I am copying

establishment Republicans.

That is a loser strategy.

Of course.

Total utter loser strategy.

I'm going to be more corporate than you.

I'm going to fund the donors better than you.

I'm going to be more establishment than you.

You and I agree.

That's what the Democrats have done our whole lifetime

and that is totally wrong.

Skippity do.

Dopp. D totally wrong. Bid-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d. Yes, yes, yes. Skib-d-d-dip. I think that's what they do on

on every single issue that Republicans choose to make their major...

Midar-ram. Midar-ram. Mid-a-ram. Mid-a-dum. B-skib-d-dop-d-dop. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Skips, skib-de-d-d-d-d-d-d-d.

Yes, yes, yes, yes.

Skip, skippity-dip.

Thank you, Kami, for Robbie for the 20.

What's up, bro?

Thank you, bro.

Appreciate you.

Your point.

And I think the attitude shift

and the territory

that they've lost on, the territory that they've lost on,

the territory that they voluntarily given up

on in terms of social progress, in terms of social issues,

is proof of this. That's what I mean.

Republicans were angry.

This conversation sucks, because it's just a meta-conversation.

It's not Jank actually

showing balls. I thought

Jank was going to be like, no, this is

establishment stuff. Here are the NGOs,

George Soros. No, he's going to just sit here and talk about

perceptions. That

media professionals, such as yourself

or politicians

shouldn't just fucking do that

because it's unproductive

and stares of that

he lost because of COVID.

Elections are complicated

brother.

There's all those factors.

Well,

the fact they're having

this debate means

it's not even worth

entertaining.

That's part of the fact.

That's crazy.

So that's what I'm getting back. He also won again. So there's a difference between, oh, I'm going to out corporate Republicans.

I'm going to out military industrial complex Republicans and say, no, I don't agree.

It's so crazy being like the only actual like communists in America because like we are a really different.

We're very like unique we're not part of the far right

um and we don't really like fit in with them to be honest like we don, we don't, they don't really,

the far right doesn't understand us.

They just don't, right?

But like, we don't, we live on a different planet

than these people do as well, right?

So we're literally just a complete,

we are the Bolsheviks of America.

I don't know what to tell you.

We're a completely different political faction.

Completely different.

Like we don't get along with any of these people.

There's no reason to mention it. There's no reason to mention it.

There's no reason to make it.

The reason why I'm saying there's no reason to mention it is because if you

remember, I think the immediate, like in the beginning of the Biden administration,

there was a messaging bill that came out that Democrats voted on, including Roe Conner.

They were like, we are not a socialist nation.

You remember that?

When Roe Conna, this is a capitalist nation,

this is not a socialist nation, what's...

Everybody needs to see me on screen.

Is my face that beautiful? You have to see me?

Oh, man, I got a headache.

This is almost over.

Soever, right?

It was a message being built

that a lot of Democrats voted on for no fucking reason.

Why did they vote on it?

Because they wanted to do what you're saying.

They don't agree.

They aren't socialist.

I have a juice box.

For children from Costco.

Um

and they're only 35 calories each.

And I'm really craving it. So I'm really craving it

so

I'm not gonna end the stream though

first in formal

I'm just letting you know

like that's what I'm thinking about

important right

yeah that's

fucking thirsty as hell

I want to introduce a bill

a bill highlights it that's that's dumb that's like you're doing a bill that's like you to introduce a bill. A bill highlights it.

That's dumb.

That's like you're doing a bill.

Messing highlights it as well.

Mentioning highlights it as well.

Miscuit or juice?

No, because I have to pee as well.

So first I have to take a piss, then I can have my juice.

Lighting it.

At that point, there's a 24-hour reel on CNN, MSMCA, a firet. You're not going to deflect your way out of that, Haas.

Delection doesn't work.

Expert PR, absolutely.

No, stop.

Saying Haas.

Stop.

It's really, like, weird.

Is deflecting, or in many instances,

not even responding, or in many instances

just waiting out the media cycle to end.

When you highlight it yourself you're basically telling people more people oh this thing does exist and ooh i'm actually kind of scared of this thing they did do those things you have to say you have to cut them off

they're not us same should have with black guys matter rallies same should have with black

black guys matter rallies yes yes no they did do it for the Black-Vas Matters as well.

They were like, oh, fry them up like bacon.

They would like focus on the socks that people were wearing that had pigs on it.

They always do it.

It is a formative part of the reactionary media strategy,

which is identify something that looks out of place and either massage the narrative to make it seem like this is the entire the belief structure of the entire movement

just like with Israel

I'm using Israel

because we are completely

in agreement on that

where they will say

Yeah they don't

he doesn't even understand

how these like people roll

he's like over analyzing it

Every single person is an anti-Semite

It's a smear campaign

to actually deflect away

from the actual normal points,

the very popular points that people are actually making. But unfortunately, that's a good analogy, too,

Haas. We agree on the substance of what Israel is doing is wrong. But when I condemn Hamas and Hasbila

every time. And so you would say that that's probably not a correct strategy. Yeah, I think you're totally wrong. It's not. I think that first of all, the violence is not the answer. I agree. I agree. And I... Man, the disconnect from the real world is crazy by these people.

It's like so crazy.

And I have also openly stated that there were atrocities that took place on October 7

that are totally avoidable.

And they were only, they were avoidable by not having an apartheid

that people, when you back them into a corner, they're going to

and show them that there's no way out of it. They're going to inevitably try and

fight their way out of it in that process of brutal. And that standard of violence

is set by the colonial occupation.

It's this evolution. All of that while saying Hamas is wrong to do it as well as wrong to do it. And then you don't leave it there. Then you explain, wait, Israel did 40 times what Hamas did. So, so that's the thing. Ultimately, my point is that regardless of how many times you have done that and I've done it as well, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It will still say you love, you love these guys. No, they, they, no, they, they, no, they, they, no, people, look, it's impossible to tell what everybody's perception is. Are there some people who call us anti-Semite, blah, blah, blah, no matter what?

Of course.

Is that a big percentage?

It might be a pretty large percentage, right?

But are there people who go, no, I get it.

I get what Jenk is saying.

Yeah, Hamas and Hasblos should new terrorism.

But wait, if I'm upset about that and they can- bitch pretending to be like a revolutionary like left wing or fuck you for calling us right wing motherfucker i thought has i you know i don't watch asan guys

you know i don't fucking watch any of this shit so i thought hasan is like so

radical and he's like whatever

and he's just like fucking Democrat

even terrorism like

grandstands and calls us

like far right or whatever

it's just like how the why did the media

call that Romanian

guy far right

he's not far right

I should be upset the Romanian up and coming uh guy far right. He's not far right.

The Romanian up and coming the guy who's running for president.

Killed 15,000 kids.

Far right is a term that has no meaning

when the media use it.

It has no meaning at all.

The other point I wanted to make is that there

was very extreme sentiment that the Republicans engaged in

outright lie, as a matter of fact. The Haitians are eating cats

and dogs narrative that came out of Springfield, Ohio. It was a very

very big thing that led to

mass fake bombing threats

that were made towards Springfield, Ohio.

Right. But I mean, that's a situation again where I would fight Trump and rip his face off on that.

Are you saying we should just deflect from that?

No, my point is Donald Trump successfully was like, now he either didn't talk about it at all or in instances where he was...

I would have mocked them mercilessly. I know, but you don't understand. The media did cover it nonstop.

The media said, you did this,

you did this,

and it did not matter.

That level of shamelessness is what is necessary.

At a time,

that level of shamelessness

is necessary at a time

when there is complete political polarization

and what is at the root

of my argument against

caving and capitulating to right wing framing,

regardless of whether you even agree with the position.

But you keep saying and capitulating when it isn't.

I'm agreeing to my own position

and a great majority of Americans agree more with.

Yeah.

You and I are all of this.

I agree with 70% of American.

Because I believe.

Especially when you actually genuinely believe it.

Yeah, we're the far right.

The far right.

Jackson's far right

bro you don't even know

you're talking about

because I believe that

like on the issue of immigration

okay well let's talk about that

last thing

and then you got to tell me what to call you

and then I'm going to be turkey

the incredibly right wing bill

that was presented on October 5th

2023 by the Democratic Party

do you agree with that bill

remind me remind me remind me the The border bill that Joe Biden put forward and said,

oh, in the 2023, the Trump.

Yeah, yeah, he was like the Trump board.

So there's parts that I agree with the parts I don't agree with.

These days, I agree with remain in Mexico.

Yeah.

Wow.

Okay.

And why is that?

Because look, they're saying, hey, I've got an asylum case. I don't want to do the right wing position. I don't care about it. I'm not letting anyone in.

That's illegal on an international loan.

It's not the moral right position.

But there's no, that doesn't mean that we have to allow them into the country and then release them into the country and then hope that they come back.

Now, most of them do.

Over 80% of people do come back for their hearings. to how much cash and releases a problem. But a lot don't, right? So if they say, but there's no reason not to say, okay,

stay in Mexico.

Okay, stay in Mexico.

But we're going to have your asylum here.

Far right just means pro-putin.

We're going to have it as quickly as we can.

And I would order so many more judges to expedite those hearings.

So a question for you here is, do you think that undocumented immigrants constitute a grave national security threat to America?

No, I think that the crime from undocumented immigrants is over height.

But said the wall doesn't work for eight years.

If you turn around now and say, okay, so again, a good example of how we disagree on this and how we would handle it differently.

God bless.

And I will also say, by the way, you see how Haas and I have agreed and disagreed for hours here, right? But the reason why we're not mad at each other and the reason why things are in soap opera is because

neither one of us questioned each other's intent.

When people on the left disagree, can we just call it a disagreement instead of saying somebody's a

grift or somebody?

Dude, you guys are not on the left.

What the fuck are you talking about?

Bro, this is crazy.

This is crazy this is crazy

oh man how cooked this is the left

no it's not this is cooked

this is the fucking far

right

damn

honestly the maga communism thing I did

fucking genius.

Like, not to toot my own horn.

It was so genius.

It was like the smartest, one of the smartest things I've ever done.

Because, like, I take for granted how much that's distinguished us from these people at this point.

Like, oh, my God. That was genius.

Like, my understanding of how neoliberalism warped the so-called political spectrum to the point where, like, nothing is clear clear anymore and there is no actual real political spectrum

that's established and it's all up for grabs and to actually have a left wing you have to just go and take it

it's not already here. It's a fucking genius.

Bro.

Fuck! You! Liptards! This has actually restored my confidence a lot.

I thought we were up against some difficult competition and we're not.

We are actually...

Okay, this has restored my faith.

All right. We're likely. Okay, this has restored my faith. Alright.

We're locked in, we're locked in, we got this.

We got this.

All the shit they say about us, everything they say,

LaRusha, this and that Lonely Walk

What's up?

They're being invaded

by aliens right now

They don't know

who we are

They can't pin us down

They don't recognize

who we are

And that's why

There's all this confusion

And I get it

And we're locked in We're locked in That's why there's all this confusion, and I get it.

And we're locked in.

We're locked in.

Okay.

All right, guys.

See you tomorrow.

See you later, guys. Bye-bye.