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you're out living under a rock you know that i just

was uh on a show at a kind of a debate

i am starving so this is not going to be a very long stream. I'm legitimately lightheaded and feel dizzy because of how little I ate today in general, because I'm hardcore dieting.

But I still need to eat something.

But I wanted to do this stream to recap

not recap I mean you saw what you saw

to just touch base you know

stream because I didn't stream the debate on my own

and um

that was because I didn't want to divide the viewership

crass what's going on man appreciate you That was because I didn't want to divide the viewership.

Cress!

What's going on, man?

Appreciate you.

And another thing, guys, is that if there's any arguments... Well, first of all, I didn't really see your guys' reaction.

How did you like the debate?

How did you like... How did you like it? Did you

hope it was

hope it was good?

I wasn't

looking at any live chat, so I didn't see

what you guys were saying at all. Hope you guys

were well behaved.

But if there's any arguments you guys found especially persuasive, if you found anything I said that was, you know, that you found compelling, clip it and share it with people you know, clip it and share it with people you know clip it and share it

because if you found it compelling chances are others would as well for purposes of education

so keep that in mind guys you got it the clips are everything that's why i do these you know if

i do these it's it's it's in vain if

nobody's clipping this stuff and sharing it but uh no it was a great solid host great uh great

show great debate i had a great time

it's just that I'm so hungry

you know and I didn't know the intro

would last so long because you guys take

so long to get in here but

that's okay it's just we're not going to have

too long of the stream.

And maybe we'll do the Patreon Q&A.

Maybe, you know, but I am not mentally

because I'm so fucking hungry

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if I could just like have

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it was just so it was just totally,

it's like I'm a diabetic or something, honestly, it's crazy. But, uh, yeah, anyway, we've got a lot to talk about

we've got a lot to talk about i wouldn't be live just fucking winging it who does that

not me but in any case

maybe we'll join a Twitter space

you know maybe we'll do something like wild card

type of thing

you know

because

honestly I just don't I just don't because uh honestly

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I just don't remember.

All right, we're going to just have a fun stream because I literally have no content for you guys. The

debate was the content. I think

I did want to go live earlier

to talk about something, but I'm

so hungry. Oh yeah! The CPUSA!

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Thank you for reminding me.

Fuck! Wait! wait, wait, wait. Thank you for reminding me. Fuck.

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CPUSA's conference, let's do a recap.

Now, if you don't know, we okay i'm not going to say anything but

you know what the instructions are resolution five mig what's going on the most important thing

is resolution five now we are going to what's going on. The most important thing is

Resolution 5. Now,

we are going to react to the convention

together.

Now, it's so funny, because there's all these different

Maoist groups and

others.

Let me, let's take an opportunity

to basically congratulate ourselves

and be the cult-like echo chamber

that we are because we deserve it.

There are so many newbie leftists

that are like

doing trying to do disruptions

and they're tweeting and they're like

okay guys this is and they're like

passing out leaflets and stuff

in front of if you can believe it in front of

the building of the conference

Maoists and they're

like this is our opportunity to really

challenge the party leadership

meanwhile guerrillas are dead

silent not doing anything

going with the flow

because we've been planning

this for years and we know

we actually have the discipline to know what we're doing

and we thought this through

it's not we're just not just like it's not like a

stroke of passion

leading us to just kind of

scream and just kind of like take action.

Like this is, you know,

I,

something I notice about like,

uh,

pan leftist activists is that

every time something happens, they're just like, oh, let's just take action.

There's never an element of like the long game, of like long term planning.

Like, well, we can already see the consequences of what this is going to be.

Like we already know how this is going to end

let's actually like be a little more strategic and long term like they don't have the discipline to do that

because being strategic and being long term word saladin what's up vote yes on resolution 2036

beautiful um because being strategic and thinking long term,

what requires a level of collective discipline,

which even though infrared is not an organization,

our community has that, which others do not.

They call us a cult, whatever, but we have the collective discipline to have Takea.

Nobody else is doing Takea. It's just us. Nobody else has this kind of long-term strategic orientation. It's just very reactive, short-term, you know, responding to things immediately, acting, passing out pamphlets or something. And we don't do things that way, right?

We were a little more den Shalping about this.

And people here have a...

You know, the thing about...

There's no need to complain about leftists all left wing groups in the west

have the challenge of building some kind of cohesive collective will square one that's what they've never gotten past building a collective will like do you want to know why we're causing so much controversy uh because we represent some kind of collective will.

Nobody else has been able to do that.

Every time, every time leftists try to do anything,

there's always some drama.

There's always like some,

there's always just some personal issues

and everything

collapses because

some oh that's not

fair no that's not

and then they split

and then it's just

whatever it's like

you know look what

happened to CPI

that's the ultimate

proof Caleb was

the leftist himself

on the That's the ultimate proof. Caleb was a leftist himself.

On the other hand, there's a different logic, which is represented by infrared and Midwestern Marx and Jackson, and it's cohesion and unifying, building a collective e pluribus unum it's like balkanization versus regional integration totally different trajectories of logic right and it's like well

I mean

why don't they just

unify and actually get something done

I mean I put it this way

we have done more to unify left us

than anyone else

the minute infrared

stops being a thing they are going to go at each other's throats and

call each other nazis and fascists and whatever it's just we happen to actually have gotten the

successful we actually happen to have been successful at sorry I'm so hungry I can't even talk right

we happen to be successful at giving expression to some kind of collective will

and that's extremely powerful right that's extremely significant and um in the context of our tequila in

twenty thirty six initiative we've come a long way i yes, I'm not going to tell you the number, but it's a huge number of delegates are guerrillas that I have confirmed. Like a huge number, really big, you know, and there's no way

to know

and to tell them apart

because their tequila

is so on point

and nobody else

who has grievances

with the CPC

you know to me Marx, Leninism actually means something. Because you know what, Takeda is not entryism. It's a form of discipline. You know, being able to put aside your personal views sacrifice those for the sake of a collective

organization there's so much experience and wisdom that just comes just just with that and i'm so

proud of the guerrillas that were able to do it.

And, you know, all the people that have grievances with the CPUSA, they're going about it in a Trotskyite way.

They're going about it in an individualistic way.

They're not going.

See, we went about it in a different way.

That's why when we come to the convention, we are not causing a scene.

We're not causing a ruckus.

We're not handing out pamphlets.

We're not calling. We're not doing callouts. We're not doing drama on Twitter. We are going about this in a very professional way because we know how communist parties work. We know that that kind of behavior wouldn't be

acceptable in a ruling communist party so it shouldn't be acceptable in this kind either

we should respect the institution of the communist party as a sovereign institution of the

working class

even though we oppose the leadership

even though we oppose what they're doing

we still respect the institution

and

that's why

I think guerrillas

have developed as very credible

leaders, communist leaders

in the CPUSA.

And going forward,

when our initiative accelerates

in ways that will surprise everyone,

that's going to be really helpful. It's going to be very useful. It's going to be very fruitful, you know. Anyway, let's, um, this is like uh

e3 or something

but let's watch

let's watch let's watch the convention main report forward together.

It's one hour long, and I'm a very hungry person right now.

You know, uh let's let's uh let's watch this I mean, you know, it was very cold in here yesterday.

And I said to myself, I'm not going to worry about it because tomorrow my heart is going to be filled with warmth and pride.

And sure enough, that's what it's filled with now.

Good afternoon, comrades and siblings, friends.

And let me extend a warm, revolutionary welcome to everybody to our 32nd National Convention.

And I want to extend an especially warm welcome to the delegates from our fraternal parties from around the world.

We are so very excited that you are able to join us.

They're sitting right down there in the middle.

Give them a rousing.

I can't hear you.

This is actually the highlight.

I'm not even kidding. These are the best people.

That's what I'm talking about.

International delegates.

Yeah.

Combers, we are so happy to be back home today in the great working class town of Chicago, Shytown, the city that gave us May Day,

Shytown, the city that gave birth to our party, the daily worker, and now the people's world.

And this year, as the comrades have already pointed out, we are celebrating the 100th anniversary of our working class press.

Happy birthday. Happy, happy birthday.

What a great tradition of struggle.

And today, Chicago...

It's a wonderful day in the neighborhood.

Thank you for the 10. Appreciate you.

A Pistate! What's up?

Did I... What does that even mean?

Anyway, thanks.

You are keeping that tradition alive.

Congratulations on winning community control of the police.

That's a big fan.

Is Ted here today?

Ted, congratulations and congratulate the National Alliance

and all of the organizations that helped make that happen.

It was a huge development in our country.

Y'all keep doing it. Congratulations

on the election of Mayor Brandon Johnson.

The people of Chicago

are proving once and again that the people united can fight back and win.

And today we have come to Chicago ready to fight back and win.

The battle lines are clear and the stakes could not be higher.

We are fighting a fascist danger at home and a genocidal war against Gaza abroad.

And to defeat the danger at home, we have got to defeat the war abroad.

Let us make it plain.

Biden's Israel policy must be defeated today so that we can defeat Trump and MAGA tomorrow.

Military

aid to Israel must be cut.

The Netanyahu regime must

So what are you going to do about it?

What are you going to do

about it though, you know?

Guys, no to Resolution you can he can say all

this he wants fine say that but then then then uh resolution five needs to go then if the priority

is fighting the genocide then the priority is not fighting MAGA. Okay, Biden is the one enabling Israel right now. So fight that.

Be isolated. No to Resolution 5. How about that?

Stein must be free and have an independent state.

Okay, so what are you going to do to see through to that?

The support for Israel's apartheid policies made in the corporate suites of this country must be defeated by mass movements in the streets.

And that is exactly what has been happening.

We are so proud to be able to take witness of the student encampments.

And we have some students here today that were involved in those encampments, don't we?

Michigan State. Is Michigan State here?

Somebody stand up for Michigan State.

University of Michigan, are they here?

Huh?

Cornell, is Cornell here?

No?

Cornell, Cornell is here.

Stand up.

We are so proud the student demonstrations, the sit-ins,

the petitions, the resolutions by labor unions

are having a huge impact. And we say today, Congress,

keep the pressure on. In fact, turn it up.

The only thing that this ruling class understands

is mass public pressure.

It's all about power and the relationships of power.

It's about mass working class movements

that only real change can be achieved.

That's how we're going to restore abortion rights

and win back affirmative action.

That's how we're going to end racist police violence.

We are fighting for the right to organize.

We are fighting for the right to housing, health care, and a sustainable environment.

And we are fighting this pride...

It's kind of a crazy reformism to assume...

It's kind of a crazy reformism to assume it's like they're saying there's this fundamental issue they're not litigating, which is like what about the Federal Reserve?

They're like, oh, that's just like for the future. That's like all like down the line after we get abortion rights, we'll have more traction.

And it's like you're doing menshevism.

You're doing stagism.

You know, you're not, you're, uh, you're like assuming that these cultural battles are a conduit to litigate more fundamental issues.

And that's wrong. And I'm not, I'm not someone talking about like

revolutionary maximalism

and just like saying

oh no you just need to call for a revolution

but

the way that you're like mapping

politics in the U.S. is just wrong.

The issues you're prioritizing.

Thank you, Alexander.

I appreciate that you're putting the cart before the horse, right?

You're assuming that American politics is sovereign, like that we live in a democratic country.

And that's not true.

You're assuming that we're living under FDR, for example, and there's some sovereign platform for the communist voice to exist. But this country has gotten so hijacked that we don't have that sovereignty.

And so a lot of the wedge issues that divide Democrats and Republicans, like abortion or affirmative action,

you're assuming that those are conduits to advance the struggle.

Stalin, Beria Gulag, what's up?

You're making the assumption

these are conduits to advance communist struggle,

but they're not. They're just kind of squabbles between the duopoly within the background of a more fundamental

consensus of dictatorship, you know, by the monopoly capitalist class. And litigating politically that

dictatorship is not maximalistic. It's not ultra-leftism. You know, it's not like saying, oh, we need a revolution right now and have full communism or not.

Like, that's not what it's saying.

It's saying we don't have democratic rights.

And that's not because abortion is restricted.

It's because our government is occupied by the private sector, by the

monopoly capitalist class. And that needs to be litigated politically now. You know, don't wait until,

oh, well, we'll become more popular by using these duopoly wedge

issues to make ourselves more relevant. No, you can make yourself more relevant now by litigating

the fundamental question of our democratic popular sovereignty right now litigate it now

make it politically relevant right now because it already is because this country is collapsing as we speak

you know i'm not saying make marx relevant right now. I get that. I understand the strategy

of the popular front, and I understand the wealth of wisdom and experience that underlies

that outlook. But I'm saying you're not making it, you're not litigating politically the thing that's fundamental.

And the thing that's fundamental is the destruction of our popular sovereignty. And you're not even, and it's like what are particular examples of that? I mean, I don't know.

I don't know.

What about the Patriot Act?

What about what happened under Obama?

Why aren't you doing what Glenn Greenwald does where he's just like reporting on this shit.

When has people's world ever reported on?

You know how the DHS is silencing people on social media and all these

infringements on our classical Boozwall liberties that you don't care about

because you think that the democratic struggle means

talking about abortion and it's not for the right to love who we want to love and we say it loud from...

Yeah, or like marriage issues of, you know, sexual minorities.

It's like, that's not the democratic struggle.

I'm sorry, dude.

Those are wedge issues in the duopoly

and their cultural issues that the duopoly

exploits because it has

no other standing upon which to

wage politics.

You're not litigating the things that

are important at the political level, though.

The things that are important at the political level, though, you know, the things that actually

matter.

Platform, loud and proud, that we are fighting for the right.

It's really shameful that Bernie Sanders outflanked the CPUSA on the issue of health care,

at least.

You know, the CPUSA kept saying, no, no, no, we need to like, just follow Obama.

And then Bernie Sanders comes out of nowhere and makes the health care question suddenly relevant in a way that the CPUSA would have considered too extreme

and too, you know, forward thinking because we need to focus on abortion right now, you know.

To live in a new society, a socialist society where workers and rule

and people can be and breathe free. And we're not

going to apologize for it.

Comrades, a Trump victory

would threaten all of these rights.

That's what January is... He's basically making this

about Resolution 5. All right, guys, vote your conscience on resolution five. He's trying to convince everyone to pass through resolution five and get the Democrats to win. He just gave that speech about Biden and opposing Biden on Gaza as a form of virtue signaling that's

substanceless. He doesn't actually mean it. What he's talking about is raising your voice, but

simultaneously voting for Biden.

That's what he's talking about.

All right.

And everyone should see through it.

The 6th was all about.

Never forget the Confederate flags, the nooses, the bear spray, the hidden ammunition, the proud book.

You know, he's

talking about a lot of

aesthetic stuff.

And it's like,

oh, yeah,

never forget the nooses.

And it's like, okay,

what?

So you think that

that was a reference to the

phenomena of lynching

black people in the south rather

than them saying that they want to lynch the government it's just so ridiculous dude come on

why don't use common sense do you actually think those people were uh i mean this guy's just like a boomer. He's so out of touch.

Oh, they had nooses because they wanted to lynch politicians. It's like, well, I understand that's too much of an extreme position for a communist to take right now but is it really one that you're

going to clutch pearls over and like be scared of like aren't we the communists or what weren't we the

ones that were accused of wanting to illegally overthrow the government during the McCarthy era?

I mean, like, why are you allergic to crowds of people demanding that the government gets lynched or something?

Or not lynched is not even a good word

because that's a reference to racial violence.

Amila, what's up?

That's a reference to racial violence.

I don't think that that was the reference

that people who brought a news to January 6th were making. I think that they were referring to wanting to hang symbolically maybe. I don't know, politicians. And there was nothing racially charged about it. You know, where's the evidence that it was?

It was a prop.

Yeah, I understand it was a prop, but he's trying to make it seem like it was like a racially charged thing, and I don't think it was.

And I would be the first person to condemn it if it was and express how disgust that I was if it was, but it wasn't.

It's just so out of touch.

You need to actually talk to these people, man. Don't just create a discursive

barrier. It's dangerous. If you're literally thinking in your head right now that

Maga people hate black people and identify with Jim Crow racism toward black people,

I think you're just kind of out of touch,

and you've you've othered them so much where it's kind of dangerous.

It's like you don't even know your own neighbors anymore.

Like, come on, man, just have a conversation. And you'll see how

ridiculous that assumption is. People don't hold those views on any, on any significant level,

you know. Boys, the oathkeepers, the neo-Nazis and Ku Kluxes. But more than that, yeah, dude, the Ku Kluxes and the neo-Nazis are not MAGA, dude. It's totally different things. And I'm not just saying that. Like, they are not have hate have uh hate groups as a matter of fact joe and i'm telling you this

in good faith the only reason those hate groups supported maga is because the media told them

that maga aligns with them.

Once David Duke or whoever realized that that's not the case, they totally turned on them.

And they're like, no, these Maga people are, you know, they're not red pill or they're sorry, they're not, they're not based enough, whatever.

Joe, I think you just kind of are assuming that Maga people, you know, are like the bigoted white Southerners during the

civil rights era who they're against, you know, racial intermarriage or that's not true, dude.

That's not representative of who they are at all maga people

literally believe it's what they believe that martin luther king would be a trump supporter

if he was alive today that's what they think i'm not saying that's true i'm just saying

they are not against the civil rights movement they're not against that legacy

and they are against the kKK they are against neo-nazis yeah and richard spencer voted for

biden so like what are you talking about, dude? You're out of touch.

Never forget the men in blue, print striped suits and their attempt to stay in power no matter what.

Never forget Trump standing in front of the White House claiming the election was stolen.

And by who? By Philadelphia,

by Pittsburgh, by Detroit,

by Atlanta. But that's

not what he was saying. He was saying it was

stolen by the DNC.

To be fair, he wasn't

saying it was stolen by these cities

and these people.

Again, this is, why are you

lying? Are you lying on purpose, or do

you actually believe this? You know,

it's kind of ridiculous to me that

it's not even allowed to challenge this at all. Like MSNBC controls the CPUSA. You can't even,

you can't even question it. It's just kind of ridiculous to me.

By Phoenix, by Tucson and Milwaukee. In other words, by black folk and Latinos.

In one breath.

Joe, he wasn't saying that.

Nobody was saying that.

Come on, man.

Why are you lying?

Why are you trying to lie and make it seem like that's what they were saying?

Because they weren't.

You're just being dishonest, either to yourself or to others.

I don't know why.

I don't know why.

What is MSNBC told you this?

So it must be true?

And what?

It's dangerous to even question that or think critically about it?

I mean, come on, man.

Trump criminalized.

Anonymous.

I find this idiotie funny talking about newses and Confederate flags when Trump received an open arms welcome out in the Bronx also am a southerner with that heritage

and half my friends are black.

Yeah, I mean, Joe Sims thinks we're living in the 60s and we're not.

Most Americans think MLK was good. Most Americans think the Civil Rights Act was good. It's not an issue that's litigated in America.

Americans believe in racial equality by and large. We believe that as a patriotic value, you know, that somebody should be

judged by their character and not the color of their skin. And that's something that's ingrained

in most Americans' heads. All racial prejudices aside. Those still exist.

But ideologically, Americans

believe in MLK's dream.

It's become a part of what America is today.

And you're trying

to say that this is what the fight is

about is just being dishonest.

Two entire peoples, just like he criminalized in Central Park Five.

This comrades is the raw racism at the very heart of MAGA.

Hold on, hold on.

So because Trump said the election was stolen, that makes him a racist?

I just, I just, I find that a little ridiculous, all right?

A special target.

First, they tried the wall, didn't they?

Then the Muslim ban.

Now that.

Okay, yeah.

I mean, dude,

why should Trump's Muslim ban,

quote unquote,

be more significant to me

than Obama droning the shit out of,

you know,

Muslims all over the world with impunity.

I mean, what, what exactly, ah, it's just like, this guy, I don't understand it, you know?

They are planning concentration camps. That right we said it concentration camps think think

holding centers as large as amazon warehouses think thousands of red state cops and the military

the militias he's just trying to scare people into voting for biden Things that are happening already, dude, if they're happening.

Sorry, dude.

Camps are already here.

On our doors, rounding up our children.

And if they come for immigrants in the morning?

Who's rounding up whose children?

That damn show coming for us at noon.

Trump already said it.

Think mass firings.

Think public linchings.

Think public trials for the actual thinking.

You think it can't happen here?

Think again.

It already did.

It was called McCarthyism.

Ask B. Lunkin about it. Where's B?

Huh? Ask B about it.

Trying to, yeah, you're trying to compare two

incomparable scenarios.

This is a little, this

is just LARP larping he's just

larping at this point he's trying to make it seem like

we're living in the 50s and that

Trump represents McCarthy

oh man you just

you don't understand the novelty

of the situation we're living in you don't

understand it at all you don't understand the specificity of the situation we're living in. You don't understand it at all. You don't understand

the specificity of the era we're living in. The threat of fascist authoritarianism is very real. I wouldn't

deny it. But it's a bipartisan threat. It's not Trump. Okay. In any, in any, it's not exclusively Trump in any way.

The destruction of our civil liberties and the normalization of cracking down on Americans

is a precedent that's continued to be normalized by Biden, Obama.

Democrats are just as culpable as Republicans in this regard. So saying that, you know, this is what Trump

is some unique threat, it's just ridiculous. It's not true.

Look, comrades, in the first 180 days of a Trump administration, they plan to dismantle programs like food stamps in Section 8.

They're going after marriage rights.

All right.

So I'm going to guess that he spends most of his time, whatever.

Gorillas are more educated than joe sims um they're more in touch with reality

and i have confidence that i have confidence that everyone is going to vote for their conscience

with their conscience,

with their conscience, on Resolution 5.

You know, even non-gorillas forget about all these disagreements do you want the communist party

to follow democrats or not be it on your conscience let the genocide and Gaza be on your conscience if you're going to have the only sovereign party of the working class vote for genocide Joe Biden let Let history remember your name.

Everyone who votes in favor of Resolution 5, let history remember your name.

You enabled genocide in Gaza, and you voted for it, and you didn't have to but you did anyway.

And we will remember everyone who votes for Resolution 5 to shame them for future generations

in the history books for where they stood.

Over 30...

He's talking about these future nightmarish scenarios

if Trump wins.

Is it not already nightmarish

that over 30,000 people in Gaza

have been massacred?

Or maybe it's just because there are a bunch of brown third world Muslims that we shouldn't care. Is that what Joe is saying? We shouldn't care because they're Muslims abroad, that it's, that that that that isn't as evil or as horrific you know it's

kind of ridiculous it's like oh all this bad stuff will happen it's like what on a moral level

it's like well our bats is bad stuff not already

happening morally

is that not fascism itself

why should we

turn the other way for that

it's so ridiculous

you know.

Anyway, guys, I got to eat, and we're going to wrap it up there.

Vote with your conscience on Resolution 5.

Gorillas who are already there know what they're doing, and I trust them.

And there's any surprises.

I'll keep you guys updated.

But we're going to be live Sunday to cover what happens at the convention.

So stay tuned for that guys

it's been great great debate

great stream

I know it's only 30 minutes

but it's better than nothing right

anyway guys

we're signing off

I will see you Sunday Anyway, guys, we're signing off.

I will see you Sunday.