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Western Singh with the five.

I see you, man.

EJ, JB, Australistani, Tactile.

I see you guys.

Maois Bane, what's going on?

Um what's up guys?

We uh

Living under a rock, you know that I just was on a show, had a kind of a debate.

I am starving, so this is not going to be a very long stream.

I'm legitimately lightheaded and feel dizzy because of how little I ate today in general because I'm hardcore dieting, but I still need to eat something.

But I wanted to do this stream to recap.

Not recap.

I mean, you saw what you saw.

To just touch base, you know, stream.

Because I didn't stream the debate on my own.

And that was because I didn't want to divide the viewership.

Krass, what's going on, man?

Appreciate you.

And another thing, guys, is that um if there's any arguments well, first of all, I didn't really see your guys' reaction.

How did you like the debate?

How did you like how did you like it?

Did you hope it was

Hubble was good.

Um, I wasn't looking at any live chat, so I didn't see what you guys were saying at all.

Hope you guys were well behaved.

But um, if there's any arguments you guys found especially persuasive, if you found anything I said that was um

You know, that you found compelling, clip it and share it with people you know.

Clip it and share it.

Because if you found it compelling, chances are others would as well for purposes of education.

So keep that in mind, guys.

You got it.

The clips are everything.

That's why I do these.

You know, if I do these, it's it's it's in vain if nobody's clipping this stuff and sharing it.

But uh no, it was a great solid host, great, uh, great show, great debate.

I had a great time.

Um

It's just that I'm so hungry, you know, and uh I didn't know the intro would last so long 'cause you guys take so long to get in here, but that's okay.

It's just we're not gonna have too long of a stream.

Um and uh maybe we'll do the Patreon Q and A.

Maybe, you know.

Uh but I am not mentally 'cause I'm so fucking hungry like if I could just if I could just like have a piece of fried chicken

That would fix all the problems.

It was just so.

It was just it was just totally

It's like I'm a diabetic or something, honestly.

It's crazy.

But uh

Yeah, anyway, we've got a lot to talk about.

We've got a lot to talk about.

I wouldn't be live, just fucking winging it.

Who does that?

Not me.

But in any case, maybe we'll join a Twitter space.

You know, maybe we'll do something like a little wildcard type of thing.

You know?

Because uh

Honestly, I just don't

have news to report to you.

Wool!

I could have sworn there's something I wanted to talk about today.

I just don't remember.

Alright, we're gonna just have a fun stream because I literally have no content for you guys.

The debate was the content.

I think I did want to go live earlier to talk about something, but I'm so hungry.

Oh, yeah, the CPUSA.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Thank you for reminding me.

Fuck wait, wait, wait.

Ah, I was so hungry I forgot.

CPUSA's conference.

Let's do a recap.

Now, if you don't know, um, we okay, I'm not gonna say anything, but you know what the instructions are.

Resolution five, MIG, what's going on?

The most important thing.

Is resolution five.

Now we are going to react to the convention together.

Now it's so funny because there's all these different Maoist groups and others.

Let me let's take an opportunity to basically congratulate ourselves and be the cult-like echo chamber that we are, because we deserve it.

There are so many newbie leftists

That are like doing trying to do disruptions and they're tweeting and they're like, okay, guys, this is, and they're like passing out leaflets and stuff in front of, if you can believe it, in front of the building of the conference, Maoists, and they're like, they're like, this is our opportunity to really challenge the party leadership.

Meanwhile, guerrillas are dead silent, not doing anything.

Going with the flow, uh, because we've been planning this for years and we know we actually have the discipline to know what we're doing.

Um, and we thought this through.

It's not we're just not just like it's not like a um a stroke of passion leading us to just kind of scream and just kind of like take action.

Like this is, you know, I I it's something I notice about like uh

Pan-leftist activists is that every time something happens, they're just like, oh, let's just take action.

Like, there's never an element of like the long game, of like long-term planning.

Like, no, we can already see the consequences of what this is going to be.

Like, we already know how this is going to end.

Let's actually be a little more strategic and long-term.

Like, they don't have the discipline to do that because being strategic and being long-term, we're at Saladin.

What's up?

Vote yes on resolution 2036.

Beautiful.

Because being strategic and thinking long term requires a level of collective discipline.

Which, even though infrared is not an organization, our community has that, which others do not.

They call us a cult, whatever, but we have the collective discipline to have Takia.

Nobody else is doing Takia, it's just us.

Nobody else has this kind of long-term strategic orientation.

It's just very reactive, short-term.

You know, responding to things immediately, uh, acting, l passing out pamphlets or something.

And we don't do things that way, right?

We, uh,

We're little more deng shao ping about this.

And um people here have a you know, the thing about

There's no need to complain about leftists.

All left wing groups in the West have the challenge of building some kind of cohesive collective will.

Square one, that's what they've never gotten past.

Building a collective will.

Like, do you want to know why?

We're causing so much controversy because we represent some kind of collective will.

Nobody else has been able to do that.

Every time, every time leftists try to do anything, there's always some drama.

There's always like some there's always just some like personal issues, and everything collapses because someone, oh, that's not fair.

No, that's not.

And then they split, and then it's just whatever.

It's like, you know, look what happened to CPI.

That's the ultimate proof.

Caleb was a leftist himself.

On the other hand, there's a different logic which is represented by Infrared and Midwestern Marx and Jackson, and it's uh cohesion and unifying, building a collective will, e pluribus unum.

It's like balkanization versus regional integration.

Totally different trajectories of logic, right?

And it's like, well, I mean, why don't they just unify and actually get something done?

I mean, I put it this way, we have done more to unify leftists than anyone else.

The minute infrared uh stops being a thing,

Uh they're gonna go at each other's throats and call each other Nazis and fascists and whatever.

It's just we happen to actually have gotten the successful we actually happen to have been successful at sorry, I'm so hungry I can't even talk right.

We happen to be successful at giving expression to some kind of collective will.

And that's extremely powerful, right?

That's extremely significant.

And

In the context of our Takia in 2036 initiative, we've come a long way.

I mean, yes.

I'm not going to tell you the number, but it's a huge number of delegates are guerrillas that I have confirmed.

Like a huge number, really big, you know?

And there's no way to know and to to tell them apart because their Takia is so on point.

Um and nobody else who has grievances with the CP see

You know, to me, Marxism-Leninism actually means something.

Because you know what?

Takia is not entryism, it's a form of discipline.

You know, being able to put aside your personal views, sacrifice those for the sake of a collective organization.

There's so much experience and wisdom that just comes just with that.

And I'm so proud of the guerrillas that were able to do it.

And um

You know, all the people that have grievances with the CPUSA, they're going about it in a Trotskyite way.

They're going about it in an individualistic way.

They're not going see, we went about it in a different way.

That's why when we come to the convention, we are not causing a scene.

We're not causing a ruckus.

We're not handing out pamphlets.

We're not calling we're not doing call outs.

We're not doing drama on Twitter.

We are going about this in a very professional way.

Because we know how Communist parties work.

We know that that kind of behavior wouldn't be acceptable in a ruling Communist party, so it shouldn't be acceptable in this kind either.

We should respect the institution of the Communist Party as a sovereign institution of the working class, even though we oppose the leadership, even though we oppose what they're doing.

We still respect the institution and that's why I think guerrillas have d developed as very credible leaders, Communist leaders in the CPUSA.

And going forward, when our initiative accelerates in ways that will surprise everyone, um, that's going to be really helpful.

It's going to be very uh

useful.

It's going to be very uh fruitful, you know.

Uh anyway, let's um

This is like uh

E3 or something.

But let's watch

Let's watch the convention main report forward together.

It's one hour long, and I'm a very hungry person right now.

Yeah.

But uh

Let's let's uh

Let's watch this.

Wonderful site.

I mean

You know, it it was it was very cold in here uh yesterday and um

And I said to myself, I'm not going to worry about it because tomorrow my heart is going to be filled with warmth and pride.

And sure enough, that's what it's filled with now.

Um good afternoon, uh comrades and siblings.

Friends?

And let me extend a warm, revolutionary welcome to everybody to our 32nd National Convention.

And I want to extend an especially warm welcome to the delegates from our fraternal parties from around the world.

We are so very excited that you are able to join us.

You're sitting right down there in the middle.

Give them a rousing.

I can't hear you.

This is actually the highlight is the inter I'm not even kidding.

These are the best people.

International delegates.

Yeah.

Comrades, we are so happy to be back home today in the great working class town of Chicago.

Chi-Town, the city that gave us May Day.

Chi-Town, the city that gave birth to our party, the Daily Worker, and now the People's World.

And this year, as the comrades have already pointed out, we are celebrating the 100th anniversary of our working class press.

Happy birthday.

Happy, happy birthday.

What a great tradition of struggle.

And today, Chicago.

It's a wonderful day in the neighborhood.

Thank you for the 10, appreciate you.

Apistate, what's up?

Did I s what does that even mean?

Anyway, thanks.

You are keeping that tradition alive.

Congratulations on winning community control of the police.

That's a big thing.

Is Ted here today?

Ted, congratulations and congratulate the National Alliance and all of the organizations that helped make that happen.

It was a huge development in our country.

Y'all keep doing it.

Congratulations on the election of Mayor Brandon Johnson.

The people of Chicago are proving once and again that the people, united, can fight back and win.

And today we have come to Chicago ready to fight back and win.

The battle lines are clear and the stakes could not be higher.

We are fighting a fascist danger at home and a genocidal war against Gaza abroad.

And to defeat the danger at home, we have got to defeat the war abroad.

Let us make it plain.

Biden's Israel policy must be defeated today so that we can defeat Trump and MAGA tomorrow.

Military aid to Israel must be cut.

The Netanyahu regime must be.

So, what are you going to do about it?

What are you going to do about it, though?

You know?

Guys, no to Resolution five.

You can he can say all this he wants.

Fine, say that.

But then then then uh Resolution five needs to go then.

If the priority is fighting the genocide,

Then the priority is not fighting MAGA, okay?

Biden is the one enabling Israel right now, so fight that.

Must be isolated.

Not into Resolution 5.

How about that?

What okay, so what what are you gonna do to to see see through to that?

The support for Israel's apartheid policies made in the corporate suites of this country must be defeated by mass movements in the streets.

And that is exactly what has been happening.

We are so proud to be able to take witness of the student encampments.

And we have some students here today that were involved in those encampments, don't we?

Michigan State?

Is Michigan State here?

Somebody stand up for Michigan State.

University of Michigan, are they here?

Huh?

Cornell, is Cornell here?

No?

Cornell, Cornell is here.

Stand up.

We are so proud the student demonstrations, the sit-ins, the petitions, the resolutions by labor unions are having a huge impact.

And we say today, comrades, keep the pressure on.

In fact, turn it up.

The only thing that this ruling class understands is mass public pressure.

It's all about power and the relationships of power.

It's about mass working class movements that only real change can be achieved.

That's how we're going to restore abortion rights and win back affirmative action.

That's how we're going to end racist-hobes violence.

Comrades, we are fighting for the right to organize.

We are fighting for the right to housing, healthcare, and a sustainable environment.

And we are fighting this pride.

It's kind of a crazy reformism to assume it's like...

It's like they're saying there's this fundamental issue they're not litigating, which is like, what about the Federal Reserve?

They're like, oh, this is like for the future.

That's like all like down the line, after we get abortion rights, we'll have more traction.

And it's like, you're doing Menshevism, you're doing stagism.

You know, you're not.

You're like assuming that these cultural battles are a conduit to litigate more fundamental issues.

And that's wrong.

And I'm not the I'm not someone talking about like revolutionary maximalism.

And just like saying, Oh no, you just need to call for a revolution.

But

The way that you're like mapping politics in the US is just wrong.

The the issues you're prioritizing.

Thank you, Alexander.

I appreciate you.

You're putting the cart before the horse, right?

You're assuming that American politics is sovereign, like that we live in a democratic country.

And that's not true.

You're assuming that we're living under FDR, for example, and there's some sovereign platform for the communist voice to exist, but this country has gotten so hijacked that we don't have that sovereignty.

And so a lot of the wedge issues that divide Democrats and Republicans, like abortion or affirmative action, you're assuming that those are conduits to advance the struggle.

Stalin, Beria Gulag, what's up?

You're making the assumption these are conduits to advance communist struggle, but they're not.

They're just kind of squabbles between the duopoly.

Within the background of a more fundamental consensus of dictatorship, you know, by the monopoly capitalist class.

And litigating politically that dictatorship is not maximalistic.

It's not ultra-leftism.

It's not like saying, oh, we need a revolution right now and have full communism out.

That's not what it's saying.

It's saying we don't have democratic rights.

And that's not because abortion is restricted.

It's because our government is occupied.

By the private sector, by the monopoly capitalist class.

And that needs to be litigated politically now.

You know, don't wait until, oh, well, we'll become more popular by using these duopoly wedge issues to make ourselves more relevant.

No, you can make yourself more relevant now by litigating the fundamental question of our democratic popular sovereignty right now.

Litigate it now.

Make it politically relevant right now because it already is because this country is collapsing as we speak.

You know, I'm not saying make Marxism relevant right now.

I get that.

I understand the strategy of the popular front, and I understand the wealth of wisdom and experience that underlies that outlook.

But I'm saying you're not making it, you're not litigating politically the thing that's fundamental.

And the thing that's fundamental is the destruction of our popular sovereignty.

And you're not even.

And it's like, what are particular examples of that?

I mean, I don't know.

I don't know, what about the Patriot Act?

What about what happened under Obama?

Why aren't you doing what Glenn Greenwald does, where he's just like reporting on this shit?

When has People's World ever reported on, you know, how the DHS is silencing people on social media and all these infringements on our classical bourgeois liberties that you don't care about because you think that the democratic struggle means talking about abortion, and it's not.

Month for the right to love who we want to love.

And we say it loud from the marriage issues of sexual minorities.

It's like that's not the democratic struggle.

I'm sorry, dude.

Those are wedge issues in the duopoly and they're cultural issues that the duopoly exploits because it has no other standing upon which to wage politics.

You're not litigating the things that are important at the political level, though, you know, the things that actually matter.

It's really shameful that Bernie Sanders outflanked the CPUSA on the issue of healthcare at least.

You know, um the CPUSA kept saying, No, no, no, we need to like um just follow Obama.

And then Bernie Sanders comes out of nowhere and makes the healthcare question suddenly relevant.

In a way that the CPUSA would have considered too extreme and too forward thinking, because we need to focus on abortion right now, you know?

To live in a new society, a socialist society where workers can and rule and people can be and breathe free, and we're not going to apologize for it.

Comrades, a Trump victory would threaten all of these rights.

That's what January is.

He's basically making this about Resolution 5.

All right, guys, vote your conscience on Resolution 5.

He's trying to convince everyone to pass through Resolution 5 and get the Democrats to win.

He just gave that speech about Biden and opposing Biden on Gaza as a form of virtue signaling that's substanceless.

He doesn't actually mean it.

What he's talking about is raising your voice, but simultaneously voting for Biden.

That's what he's talking about.

All right, and everyone should see through it.

This was all about.

Never forget the Confederate flags, the nooses, the bear spray, the hidden ammunition, the proud boy.

Y you know, he's talking about a lot of aesthetic stuff.

And it's like, oh, yeah, never forget the nooses.

And it's like, okay what what, so you think that that was a reference to the phenomena of lynching black people in the South, rather than them saying that that they want to lynch the government?

It's just so ridiculous, dude.

Come on, why don't you use common sense?

Do you actually think those people were uh I mean, this guy's just like a boomer, he's so out of touch.

Uh oh, they had nooses 'cause they wanted to lynch politicians.

It's like, well,

I understand that's too much of an extreme position for a communist to take right now, but is it really one that you're gonna clutch pearls over and like be scared of?

Like, aren't we the communists or what?

Weren't we the ones

that were accused of wanting to uh illegally overthrow the government.

Um, during the McCarthy era, I mean, like, why are you allergic to crowds of people demanding that the government gets uh lynched or something?

Or not lynched is not even a good word because that's a reference to um racial violence.

Amila, what's up?

That's a reference to racial violence.

I don't think that that was the reference the people who brought a noose to January 6th were making.

I think that they were referring to wanting to hang symbolically, maybe, I don't know, politicians.

And there was nothing racially charged about it.

You know, where's the evidence?

That it was.

It was a prop.

Yeah, I understand it was a prop, but he's trying to make it seem like it was like a racially charged thing, and I don't think it was.

And I would be the first person to condemn it if it was and express how disgusted I was if it was, but it wasn't.

It's just so out of touch.

You need to actually talk, you need to talk to these people, man.

Don't just create a discursive barrier.

It's dangerous.

If you're literally thinking in your head right now that

MAGA people hate black people and identify with Jim Crow racism toward black people.

I think you're just kind of out of touch.

And you've othered them so much where it's kind of dangerous.

It's like you don't even know your own neighbors anymore.

Like, come on, man.

Just have a conversation and you'll see how ridiculous that assumption is.

People don't hold those views on any significant level, you know?

Boys, the Oath Keepers, the neo-Nazis, and Ku Kluxes.

But more than that.

Yeah, dude, the Ku Kluxes and the Neo-Nazis are not MAGA, dude.

It's totally different things.

And I'm not just saying that.

Like, they are not.

Have hate groups.

As a matter of fact, Joe, and I'm telling you this in good faith: the only reason those hate groups supported MAGA is because the media told them that MAGA aligns with them.

Once David Duke or whoever realized that that's not the case, they totally.

They totally turned on them.

And they're like, no, these MAGA people are, you know, they're not red pill, or they're sorry, they're not a.

They're not based enough, whatever.

Ma y Joe, I think you just kind of are th assuming that MAGA people

you know, are like the bigoted

White Southerners during the civil rights era who they're against, you know, racial intermarriage.

That's not true, dude.

That's not representative of who they are at all.

MAGA people literally believe, it's what they believe, that Martin Luther King would be a Trump supporter if he was alive today.

That's what they think.

I'm not saying that's true.

I'm just saying.

They are not against the civil rights movement.

They're not against that legacy.

And they are against the KKK.

They are against neo-Nazis.

Yeah, and Richard Spencer voted for Biden.

So, like, what are you talking about, dude?

You're out of touch.

Never forget the men in blue pinstriped suits and their attempt to stay in power no matter what.

Never forget Trump standing in front of the White House claiming the election was stolen.

And by who?

By Philadelphia, by Pittsburgh, by Detroit, by Atlanta.

But that's not what he was saying.

He was saying it was stolen by the DNC, to be fair.

He wasn't saying it was stolen by these cities and these people.

Um, again, this is why are you lying?

Are you lying on purpose or do you actually believe this?

You know, it's kind of ridiculous to me that it's not even allowed to challenge this at all.

Like, MSNBC controls the CPUSA.

You can't even, you can't even question it.

It's just kind of ridiculous to me.

By Phoenix, by Tucson, and Milwaukee.

In other words, by black folk and Latinos.

In one breath.

Joe, he wasn't saying that.

Nobody was saying that.

Come on, man.

Why are you lying?

Why are you trying to lie and make it seem like that's what they were saying?

Because they weren't.

You're just being dishonest, either to yourself or to others.

I don't know why.

I don't know why.

What is MSNBC told you this, so it must be true?

And what?

It's dangerous to even question that or think critically about it.

I mean, come on, man.

Trump criminalized Anonymous.

I find this idea-y funny talking about newses and Confederate flags when Trump received an open arms welcome out in the Bronx also am a Southerner with that heritage and half my friends are black.

Yeah, I mean Joe Simms thinks we're living in the sixties and we're not.

Most Americans think MLK was good.

Most Americans think the Civil Rights Act was good.

It's not an issue that's litigated in America.

Um

Americans believe in racial equality by and large.

We believe that as a as an as a patriotic value.

You know, that somebody should be uh judged by their character and not the color of their skin.

And that's something that's ingrained in most Americans' heads.

All racial prejudices aside, those still exist.

But

Ideologically, Americans believe in MLK's dream.

It's become a part of what America is today.

And y you trying to say that this is what the fight is about is just being dishonest.

two entire peoples, just like he criminalized the Central Park V.

This, comrades, is the raw racism at the very heart of MAGA.

Hold on, hold on.

So because Trump said the election was stolen, that makes him a racist.

I just I just I find that a little ridiculous, all right?

A special target.

First they tried the wall, didn't they?

Then the Muslim ban.

Now they yeah, I mean, dude.

Why should Trump's Muslim ban quote unquote?

Be more significant to me than Obama droning the shit out of, you know, Muslims all over the world with impunity.

I mean, what?

What exactly ah, it's just like this guy, I don't understand it, you know?

They are planning concentration camps.

That's right.

We said it.

Concentration camps.

Think, think holding centers as large as Amazon warehouses.

Think thousands of red state cops and the military, the militias.

He's just trying to scare people into voting for Biden.

Things that are happening already, dude, if they're happening.

Sorry, dude.

Camps are already here.

On our doors, rounding up our children.

And if they come for immigrants in the morning.

Who's rounding up whose children?

They're damn sure coming for us at noon.

Trump already said it.

Think mass firings.

Think public lynchings.

Think public trials for the act of thinking.

You think it can't happen here?

Think again.

It already did.

It was called McCarthyism.

Ask B Lumpkin about it.

Where's B?

Huh?

Ask B about it.

Trying to yeah, you're trying to compare two incomparable scenarios.

Um this is a little this is just LARPing.

He's just LARPing at this point.

He's trying to make it seem like we're living in the fifties and that Trump represents McCarthy.

Oh man, you just you're just you don't understand the novelty of the situation we're living in.

You don't understand it at all.

You don't understand the specificity of the era we're living in.

I um

The threat of fascist authoritarianism is very real.

I wouldn't deny it.

But it's a bipartisan threat.

It's not Trump.

Okay, uh in any in any um it's not exclusively Trump in any way.

The destruction of our civil liberties and the normalization of cracking down on Americans is a precedent that's continued to be normalized by Biden, Obama.

Democrats are just as culpable as Republicans in this regard.

So.

Saying that, you know, this is what Trump is some unique threat, it's just ridiculous.

It's not true.

Look, comrades, in the first 180 days of a Trump administration, they plan to dismantle programs like food stamps and Section 8.

They're going after marriage rights.

All right, so I'm going to guess that he spends most of his time whatever.

Guerrillas are more educated than Joe Sims.

They're more in touch with reality.

And I have confidence that everyone is going to vote for their conscience, with their conscience, on Resolution 5.

You know, um

Even non-gorillas.

Forget about all these disagreements.

Do you want the Communist Party to follow Democrats or not?

Be it on your conscience, let the genocide in Gaza be on your conscience.

If you're gonna have the only sovereign party of the working class, vote for genocide Joe Biden.

Let history remember your name.

Everyone who votes in favor of Resolution Five.

Let history remember your name.

You enabled genocide in Gaza, and you voted for it, and you didn't have to, but you did anyway.

And we will remember everyone who votes for Resolution Five, to shame them for future generations in the history books, for where they stood.

Over thirty he's talking about these future nightmarish scenarios if Trump wins.

Is it not already nightmarish that over thirty thousand people in Gaza have been massacred?

Or maybe it's just because uh they're a bunch of brown third world Muslims that we shouldn't care.

Is that what Joe is saying?

We shouldn't care because they're Muslims abroad, that it's it's that that that isn't as evil or as horrific?

You know, it's kinda ridiculous.

It's like, uh, oh, all this bad stuff will happen.

It's like well on a moral level, it's like, well, i are bad s is bad stuff not already happening morally?

Is that not fascism itself?

Why should we turn the other way for that?

It's so ridiculous, you know?

Anyway, guys, I gotta eat, and we're gonna wrap it up there.

Vote with your conscience on Resolution 5.

Guerrillas.

Uh who are already there?

know what they're doing and I trust them and um

There's any surprises, I'll keep you guys updated.

But we're going to be live Sunday to cover what happens at the convention.

So stay tuned for that, guys.

It's been great, great debate, great stream.

I know it's only 30 minutes, but it's better than nothing, right?

Anyway, guys, we're signing off.

I will see you Sunday.