DESTROYING VAUSH PT 2 (HES STILL RUNNING) [2021-12-05]

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shit like family and all that kind of stuff bunch of personal stuff and whatever you know i just have a i phone for those whever you know can i do that i'm thinking about be i'm thinking about it this is i don't want to give my number out with this one you know i've been given my number out of shit and i don't want to give my number out to any more people so i kind of want to

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but we're not we're not on our phones and that we know we're picking her up you know you what we pull up in our black car you don't even know wh the fulk we are you you never heard of us you don't knowh we are we're not on social media we're not on instagram you don't know who we are and we have d that's who their w you understand all you i phone dudes

your grolls get inm pighted by an android dude hundred thousand percent hundred thousand percent

one understand but one about face time one abmout face time

scuse me what kind of a man who's a busy man got time to face time no woman's going to respect a man who's got time to face time her

we face to face when we face to face other than that weve got no business to attend to right i know i know what type of dude you all like i'm going to take my girpfriend every day i'm going to take care i wen to thea timer yes bee you know what you' got that guy no you've got that guy no game you got that guy no game r here's what here's what a real

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and you just talk and it's always got to lead to a conclusions yah hello you hide it ond your beak the thing i gave you the package still got it in you under your bed understand ok i'm a come pick it up there we go simple as that you know what i mean but youll i phone do all you i phone use on here like

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man does that shit man bace timing what kind of man does that bullshit base timing your girl cheating on you i promise i promise you understand she's she's going to be face timing she's going to be like this o nice honey how yeah i know i was such a great movie that was such a great movie and then guess what's going on

oh oh i have to go one second sorry i face i mean she hangs up the phone she gets her coat on get her jack and i walks out the front door i've told up in a buk black ped car go and i got my fucking andro i sd what took you so fucking long she does nothing i' was just wrapping some stef out yeah yeah got yeah yehmer yeah i don't face

time i didn't face time or neither you understand i dialed the phone acause i use the telephone you understand i didn't face time it tell phone yeah i mean stone age technologies for some stone age dick you understand st age technologies for some stone a side dick you understand the fuk i'm calling her onm on the buck and cell phone you know what i mean man

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what am i going to pu p piano tiles or whatever you not fucking time for that but i mean i'm simple i'm simple simple man you know i mean simple man the simpler the phone the bigger the dick that's how it works simpler the technology the bigger the dick that's how it works

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in the nineties that's when you just used to call you wunter stand conversation that's how that works and that's how that's supposed to work god i know i know do get this i know do this mother buk is still using the telegram

mother pu is still using the telegram to contacted bitches and they know when to come out soon as they hear that shit there imediately running out the fucking door you understand soon as they hear that shit there immediately out the door but you all are still on your fucket iphone talking of bitches how much of pitches man you got guy no game you got guy no game

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know guy no game you guy guy no game guy no game apple i phone man

i'm just trying to r a guy no phone

alright we're going to get right into the voushit we're going to get into this vo it's enough tom fooler you' been

we've been fooling around a little bit you know we do a little trolling

we do a little trolling we do a little fooling around but we're going to go get into this vou shit

yup

we're just going to finish the shit where we took off last night

if you''ll need a primer

if you need a primer

on what's going on

boss covered my debate with hock and he was talking a whole lot of shit

right

and i'm exposed in vos be for being a fat dumb ass

as usual

and it's very simple it's not hard at all very minimal effort just

exposing his duties a fat pussy fat dumice

he talks a lot of shit he's still running away from me and won't fucking confront me in a fucking debate he's way less knowledgeable in me he's way less

ah smarter than me he's way less

fucking

skilled at debating than i am so there you go

and he's also the irish laddie who said that he wants child sex robots

in the future and he also said that

someone in the discorder was like i got a

sexually abused by my teacher under age and vow said that i was hot

and look it up it's all in the fucking logs it's all there in the logs

this is os he's still not been held accountable

or his past

that's boh

yeap it's all public it's all public

it's all fuck in public

oh look it up

that's vouch that's what we're dealing with right now

that's we're covering

hopefully we're going to finish this quick

we got an hour and thirty minutes left on the clock i'm speeding it up

and we're going to finish it quick right and then we're going to get over this bullshit

and focus on the c pusa stuff ok

let's get right into it

let's get right into it

and let's go

but find a way that we can come together

in order to address our common probnm we don't really want

necessarily people to be angry we just want people to feel powerful enough to feel brave enough and to feel bold enough

to stand up what's for what's right

and to fight for their own republic right to fight for republic by foran other people because this establishment these corporations b

why

and our deep states

is no to be found in our constitution its over in the deep state it so funny

he laughed when i said deep state

imagine if bvoss abated me and i challenged him i said bvoss do you believe there's a deep state

and he says now there's no deep state

oh my god i would falking me just make this guy look so fucking stupid

right all i would have to do is name like

three names bright how just keep naming names i keep naming organizations and institutes and think tanks

and organizations and like

and i'd be like o why are these connected or why are these connect all i would have to do is connect the fucking dots

the cia the o s the oh its ordance of the o s s i'd have to go go through all of that funk and history

and i've looked

i'd i'd well this is what he would do be cause he bluffs like i said he would fake laugh while i'm doing it he go

like he's riding a cock right this is what we call the vosh cock ride he rides a cock and bounces up and down

writing a cock

when he tries to fake laugh he's not even actually laughing genuinely he just tries to fucking

britend laugh it's called the cockwright the voh cockwright

the the some called the guy no jiggle

others call it the guno laught

and i call some call it the cockright right many people call it

the guy no jiggle though that's like the most h

popular

term for vosh so guys maybe we need a mote for this every time vosh laghs like how he does

you guys got to recall remember

guy no jiggle that's what's going on guy no jiggle

diuy know youj will remember that

and if he mands up to debate me in the debate

i think i want to get in a moat just so you guys could just spam guyo jiggle every time he does it the guy no jiggle

right on our republic that was not intended by our foundy fathers and what patriotic communism does so or devour our

this is this is incredible so

need to be clear all of the people that are against it

the patriotic communism or whatever this is your representative vos that but b you're talking about patriotic communism because you're you're trying to dick ride all those fake m ls that are attacking me or whatever in those anarchists but all those people fuck and hate you probably even more than they hate me right

you're actually a pro imperialist you will never ever be accepted by the american left

you're try to fucking dick ride them or whatever they fucking hate you they actually fucking hate you vosh

and you're trying to dickride their criticism of socialist patriotism

dude you literally are an advocate of imperialism s this is you're not in your right fucking lane

you're not in your right lane

they smear me and they straw man me

as having your positions

that's how fucking in a bad place you are in their eyes

they have to straw man me and my patriotic communism

as having your positions they straw man me with your positions you stoopin fok

and he's virtue signaling to those people

how what patriotic communism does to a mother focker

vosch

you are literally a defender of the american empire

my patriotic communism is to destroy the american empire right

you are literally an advocate of the american empire

and remember they used to call me an eastern chauvinist or whatever now vachs

going on the bandwagon that i'm a fucking american so the fuck up dude

just the fok up

what a stupid fat fuck

call gets on now i want to make ption i' ooking a the medi' looking how the' promoting people like mege markele

and it seems to me trying to prepare her for some kind of a political existence or presence and i find it a nightmare that

it's a possibility that our leates are planning on dismantling our republic

and basically installing

i don't know what he's was he talking about what

the the voss the informed intellectual debate champion and political commentator

streamer

doesn't fucking know who meghan markl is and moreover he would probably laugh at the idea

but here's an article from mary clare

whatever that fuck and website is

hold on

this is from november twentieth

i

i'm going to show you a series of articles

and let's see if what i'm saying is just

way out of the ballpark right

so this is from the guardian this is from the newspaper the guardian

can harry and meghan succeed in reintroducing royalty into u s politics

us think it's a conspiracy theory you think it's crazy what i'm saying

smithsonian published an article defending king george

and then we had the new york times sixteen nineteen project what do you think this is all leading to

what do you think this all leads to what do you think the engoal is you think it's the you think it's some indigenous

a liberation movement no it's a fucking return of the royalty into u s politics

but no one listens everyone thinks i'm a crazy conspiracy theorist

and no one falking listens right

meghan marko would have to abandon a royal tugter to run for political office

so

her she's in talking about her political ambitions she has political ambitions

he took a stand for vaccine a quality ent of the new york

theyir nonprofit just pledged

to get net zero carbon by twenty thirty

so penti mim i know you and the larouche people are

listen pato if you're in a chat you and the rouche people you guys

pay it guys pay i know you guys got the resources in the

time study this shit

they are preparing meghan markel for an entry to u s politics

you all got to be on top of this because you know what

ularus people have been calling out the british monarchy before anyone

right

so you guys should take credit for this shit and call this shit out

because

you know what i mean if you all want to exonerate la rouche be on top of this meghan markel shit

right

be on top of the megan markle shit

right oh i'm going blow my nose i' hearr back it to blow my nose

oh pesto you got a chill about that sh you got a really chill dude

not don't be saying should like that

w what do he what was he talking about prepping her to be wet

what are we talking about

i'm not familiar with all the what is a q and on talking points

this is what happens when you're a

you know t o s helps this guy so much you know i wasn't going to say anything

i was going to say a slur but i was going to say like

you know

an able is term that's not allowed

but when you're a

you know like that

a

you tend to think you like you have a very limited scope

of discourse right everything's either queuing on aor right wing talking pts like it's all in this fucking discursive echo chamber that you think is like

the be all end all of all

reality right

like i said vos was a guy who ran his mouth and then went live i actually did the work of

knowing shit and then i would lie

right

merkel the german w what

boss literally thought that when i said meghan markel

i was talking about angela merkel the german

chancellor

the former german chancellor

that is how little that is how fucking politically illiterate

and utterly fucking just stupid this guy is and he's got thousands of good he's got people watching him who think this is a guy who knows things

is this the guy who knows things do people actually think this is the guy who knows things

this is literally a dumb fok this is actually a dumb fok

does anyone think this is like a guy who knows things

or something

was i don't know what this refers to i'm sorry i don't even have ay commentary to

you don't know who meghan marcus is

the lady who that's actually embarrassing

pray the prince

what does she have to do with anything

i don't know maybe we're not informed you stupid fuck

maybe you're just not informed

vouch

this is what voss does if he doesn't know something or he's not informed about something he just assumes

that it has no reality and no existence

that's that's really where we're coming from here

he's talking about installing the british crown in the uus why is what

ok

w why is w there we go the destiny ok we just got another destiny ok guys i want you to take notes of this shit

i want you guys to be on top of this likee

we're studying an animal pretty much right

so we're what we're hearing the be animal behavior and he copies destiny's mannerisms and ways of speaking

and every time destiny's like confused he's like

wait what are you talking about what do you mean like

okay

and voss does the same thing he literally just copies his exact mannerisms

so i want you guys to to um

to keep that shit in mind and write it down

ho can lony benz ma

i think this is something we really have to keep in mind and i just showed you an article from the guardian

look you know what

no no way someone please clip that part where he said he that's looney

because i guarantee she's going to run for office within the next like six years

of some kind

and it's gona be like a big

thing it's going to be like something very widely debated and talked about in the u s

please clip this is you got save it save it now save this part where vos

was making fun of me for saying meghan marcus is going to be in u s politics

lep it

clip it and save it

we're going to end this guy's fucking existence online

we don't even have to be the ones to do that by the way but

i just want this little trophy i want this little trophy for the future

and if you think as a communist i want to get the word out

you mentioned fighting for what's right

how are communists whatbout fighting for what ight if they know

god no more

no absolute standard

they just do it by any means necessary is that not a communistic

well i america really means well religious faith is not dogma if we had absolute standard

it wouldn't be faith we need to have f would be able to have a guane the reason we have faith is we're

whit

so so bos doesn't realize that faith an absolute guarantee of certainty isn't grosly

related and that they're actually opposite s doesn't know that faith and certainty are actually opposite

was just because you're a stupid fock

doesn't reflect badly on me you being a dum mass doesn't actually reflect badly on me it reflects badly on you

your act's right

how could you even dispute what i said if you have an absolute standard

with which you bestow guarantee upon

you no longer have faith

you have an absolute form idol that's not faith

fath means you don't

have any certainty if you have certainty

it wouldn't focking be faith now would it

the giant the guy know jigle is coming

up

lok we had an absolute you stupid fat ass

standard for religion they wouldn't need fit what the

fuck does that mean

it means that thank you hip sco thank you havehi scol it means if you had an absolute certainty and guarantee of the content of religion

there wouldn't be any room for faith isn't it a guy who pretends to know about philosophy doesn't he always mention philosophy when he wants to mock people thank you so much psco by the way

you know he's always like this is the guy same guy who's always like

oh

it looks like you're doing philosophy the wrong way and he's like mocking people and shit

how do you not know

that

certainty and faith

are opposite

to one and another

like isn't that what kant made a point of saying

didn't count

by insisting upon the unknowability of the thing in itself

say that he's leaving room for faith and he's preserving religious faith more or less

and making it compatible with modern science

isn't that pretty basic

right

isn't someone who's minimally educated

in just what those words even fuck and mean and how they're used across history

certainty and faith

wouldn't they just know that

let's see what his chat is saying

is he talking about it's the definition of dogma

state religion what i don't even know what he's talking

what

how do you go from there to state religion what the fuck are you talking about you dumb ass

thining about here

if we could objective we prove god well wouldn't that be cool if we could do that

what do not get the fucking point

if you could objectively prove god there is no faith

so if you have faith it means you don't have an objective standard

you'll have an absolute standard

what

and you're making you're like you're mocking the idea of objectively proving god as if that was my point

hos a saying you can objectively prove god

no i'm saying there would if you could there would be no faith

what a stupid falk

put in our trust

in something we don't necessarily know right and i don't think communist

i don't think i don't believe the mashorit your communists are without a dot

um even as an atheist for most of my adult life i have come to

see the value importance of

the feeling of god

very least right

the presence of

right so i don't necessarily is that what

you know what's disgusting about this beverly hills elitist fuck

is that when i say should like that

ninety nine percent of regular people get it

they're like yeah i understand what you mean by that

but this arrogant fock

he's likeh what

what i only feel my funkal pops when i put em in my ass

it's like disgusting anti human pieces shitz

thank you

macavelli appreciate you macavelly

thank you

you know what i mean

he's like he's like mocking the idea that you can have

it's the sense of god and the feeling of god the affect of god

didn't hegel call religion and the religious aesthetic the effectual

relationship to the absolute

the affectual relationship to the absolute

you describe yourself as a muslim atheist yes i would actually

i actually would

definitely i would

a

the whole point it's an epistemological point

you deny that there is a god so far as knowledge is concerned

or at least modern rational knowledge is concerned

but you can still have a practical relationship

to some kind of god

it's actually a more it's kind of like a religious pragmatism if that makes sense

you don't have to actually believe

but somehow it works somehow it's still real even if

even if you're not making like definitive statements

and even if you're making this statement to the contrary that you refuse to leave room for god in modern knowledge modern epistemological knowledge which is for natural science

you still have a working relationship

with some kind of divinity right divinity doesn't begin with the premise of i believe there is an absolute creator therefore that's philosophy right

religions across history when they talked about god and when they talked about divinity

they were making something intelligible that

people somehow understood

without any philosophy

right like what do you mean by god oh i know what you mean by god you mean this thing that

somehow just makes sense to me that i

can somehow feel intuitively that

somehow makes sense of my world like they're referring to something

that is already objective for people right

a is in the sense of an object

to i call myself agnostic i'm not agnostic i'm an atheist

i'm an atheist because again

there is no god for me

so far as

modern epistemology is concerned

right

but the question stands

can you say there is a god

in another sense right that's not a matter of

modern knowledge

and that's an open question that's like lakon's

last question

can there be meaning in the real is there meaning in the real

if there is meaning in the real that means the old religions are correct

right

like lachon dealt with this issue

i don't want to explain con on right but he dealt with this issue about

the origin of the signifier the origin of the symbolic order right

and beyond the threshold

of the signifier

is there something in the real

is there something actually in the real right

um

if there is then it confirms the old religions

isn't it just saying god has been obscured in modern times yes yes

but what i'm trying to do

is vindicate

marxs atheism

i'm trying to vindicate communist atheism right lenin's atheism stalin mao's atheism

i'm trying to say that atheism is compatible with pre modern religious belief

not the communss are against

well

is he an atheist or is he spiritual you can only

not be spiritual

isn't it the dumb fuck that tweeted out

isn't this the dumb fuck that made that tweet hold on

so this is what lenin would call a philistine a philistine is a dumb fox

who is unable to see the deeper truth and beauty of the world

and insists on being like a narrow minded stupid

bouk like an absolute

ignorant fuck and dumb ass and they just get away with it somehow right

thousands of years of literature and philosophers have never managed to improve upon

do good things and don't do bad things

four thousand likes

so this so this is the guy who wants to

iment about my views on religion

and my views on theology and epistemology like this is a guy who considers himself like a serious challenger

of my views right

a serious authority on the topics we're discussing

yeah and were the anti intellectuals were the vulgar anti intellectuals by the way

these are this no it's not that we're anti intellectuals boss you just the soy red it nerd bitch with guo

you're a bitch made fucking redit nerd

you're not actually an intellectual we're intellectuals

we're this type of intellectual you understand we're that type of intellectual we are intellectuals who can work with our hands that's a real intellectual

we're a lyicentcoist intellectual licentco was the barefooted scientist

that's the type of intellectual we are you are the fucking

little bitch lookin bitch made

cokock who calls himself an intellectual you're not one

you're absolutely not one

whatever i don't

god its just that we're reluctant

to focus too much on it because it can very easily be twisted to serve the option of the very religious great religion of the world warn about this they warn about how people

um do things in the name of god say things in the name of god

while in reality serving satan rights that made yourself point out earlier that

it's literally liked it's literally in the bible in the koran

there we go the guy no jiggle there we go with the the guy no jiggle yeah

what is he laughing about or what is he pretending to laugh about because we know that vosch doesn't actually laugh

authentically i doubt he's capable of like real human laughter he's only capable of simulating emotion

he doesn't actually know how to express

emotions authentically he's he's an n p c right

so he's very ingenuine and insincere actually voshs the fault emotion is this

while he's thinking about child sex robots

that's his default e motion right

he doesn't laugh he doesn't get sad

he doesn't anything like that he's absolute he he he has the

he has the mannerisms of a predator

right

don't let your children ever go near someone who ex exhibits this type of behavior by the way

and i'm not just joking about that

i'm not just joking about that

do not ever let your children go near anyone who exhibits this type of behavior

because yeah there's a pattern

trust me there is

let me just say

and we don't know we're not accusing voss of anything because there's no evidence of anything like that

although there's evidence that he's

can't he's thought about it at least right

but

child abusers

our sociopathic

they are sociopaths right

they don't have like human emotions so

you have to keep that in mind

and another thing too is that

they will simulate human emotions to get close to children

right

but their real goal we know what their real goal is but they simulate emotion

two

appiered like

harmless to children

right

that's something you really got to keep in mind

so yeah you got to be careful you know

god forbid i don't know if you guys have kids

but

you don't really know who you let around your kids it's really the people you least expect

and

it could be i don't know you know just be careful who you let in your fucking house and shit you know

and

let me just say i would never let someone who exhibits this behavior in my fuking house if i had kids

absolutely not i'm not even kidding by the way about that

u i forgot exactly said but

evil does desguise itself in the form of good is beauiful as i consider the great religions of the world iss precisely

he'sop walking repulsive

but

lok no just look at what he just did look at what he just did

and tell me it's not the most disgusting fucking

thing you ever seen

like look at this

god just that we're reluctant

to focus too much a lot i'll tell you i'll let you know wstd to serve the opsut of the very leep your eye right here one about isy look at this

um do things in the name of god say things in the name of god

bosso he serving satan rights that made yourself point out earlier that

hold on i forgot exactly said

evil does descuisee itself in the form of yeah it's beutiful as i consider the great religions of the world cisely because of how

good true and beautiful that they are that evil forces have used that right there did you see it

it's like he's like a job of the hut that just is like

oh when he splashed his

expresses like a

amusement right we know it's not real amusement nothing is real when it comes to this person this

the only real thing is the dead eyes

and predatory thoughts that they've actually shared in destiny's discord right

complete the oppositeerses

right so that explains really historically the reluctance of communist

to really get really deep into the religion but we saw this all between how for example

when the germans

no

no

i think historically the reason why communists have been antagonistic towards the church is because the church is usually in line with the state and the bourgeois

in presenting an ideological narrative that dissuades

ok so he's going he's running through his n p c dialogue loop

not realizing

that is a form of corruption

if the church

is serving worldly ends to defend the ruling class and theyre in the pockets of those in power

yeah

that's exactly what i falking said now wasn't it

the working class from working to achieve their just reward ahll on earth

no that's a fucking script that you read somewhere

it's not an original thought by the way that you came up with or thought about even

it's a script that you recited

because this got you know in ohes

he's like

he's like he's like what those isis people are

for islam but it's for it's for like his brand of leftism he only knows how to like recite things he doesn't actually know like the deeper truth behind it he just blindly recites these like scriptures and he doesn't actually even know what it fucking means

do you like

do i have to roll that back

or no i don't think we don't want we don't want to spend too much time on it but

he doesn't even know what that foccing means

he doesn't even know what that means hold on to merseaid

don't be sanying dumbshit in the chat

it is not because communists were like oh well these are the

bad churches but if we had good churches what a liberal response

no that's not what they would fuk and say

first of all you have you don't even know what you're talking about in context

ok the catholic church is a unified institution more or less

but yes

religious people who were not hostile to the communists

we're not

religious people who are not corrupt

i mean like

let me even put it this way

during the nineteen o five revolution around that time

there were priests that sided with the revolutionaries and lenin said this is not our enemy we should not

make enemies with this priest we should let them do their things

right

we should even ally ourselves with them

so yeah

that that has been the historical you think communists are just like we t all religion and even no dude that's not that's not the experience communist

no you're such a stupid fuck wasosh actually actually

this is something you're not informed on

plain and simple frederick angles toward the end of his life wrote

we should not conduct anti religious propaganda among the workers we shouldn't do this

because

the angles believe that the sweat the bad influences of religion

will be done away with the practical experiences of the movement itself it'll become superfluous

communists have never ever made it

there

mainstay to attack religion because

it dissuads the workers from collecting their worldly reward

it's specifically the corrupt institutions that they targeted

right

when they were being anti religious

besides that

when religious authorities and figures would promote resistance they would promote

revolutionary sentiment of subkinda promote the struggle of workers

communists were not against them

so no voss you're fucking wrong about this right

you're just you just read some stupid like

talking point propaganda leaflet or something

without understanding the actual context of reality

jesus christ

no it's it's because it's ideologically disenfranchises the working class no it doesn't

youy you may infer that it will

but otherwise knowo it doesn't

communists did not

speak against

religious feelings of the people thank you hipsco

what for example communist would advocate let's fight for here on earth right now the implications that has for your religious beliefs

we don't care that's your private

business that's not our business right

now that may be inversely proportional to the religious sentiment

but that doesn't mean communists were attacking religious sentiment and the experience of history shows that it wasn't adversely proportional to religious sentiment

religion has been a huge force

to stir the masses especially in this country the united states of america

just look at people like martin luther king

if anything the only example of a government trying to purge religion was the cult of reason under the french revolution yet

and robespiere was

you know

ruthlessly opposed to them

what about the godless society of the soviet union

the league of militant atheists you mean yes they were in operation

until stalin could put an end to their stupidity

right

stalin didn't have as much power as you think right

but he got to a point where he was able to shut their shit down so was before world war two by the way and he did

he never approved of the excesses of the

the league of militant atheists right

and also there was a view at the time

that the insights of modern science were

irreconcilable with religious faith

so for example when lenin was talking about the problems of religion he was like the masses are illiterate theyre they're backward they don't understand like electricity and

you know

biology and and science and things like that so we have to enlighten them

the religion is

it's the time of superstition right that he was dealing with but we know now that religion isn't just superstition

or isn't even

primarily superstition

hoja is one of the exceptions

i don't know about that

i mean jsa recalled how stalin told him to not engage in these anti religious campaigns

and what hoja has written about islam

has displayed a profound respect for the religion and so on so

i don't really know if it's true

the protestant work ethic is literally like the mandate

of the church in his

hold on

did you guys catch that

did you guys catch that

good

youre talking about zericha no i'm not

but of f

did you guys just catch that

he said the protestants weork ethic

comes from the church

what

what church what fuck of church are you talking about

mm

does he think there's a protestant church

yeah may be like a mile from you

or i don't know in beverly hills they worship sat in there

so i don't think you have one of those but

what do you mean the church

you're literally an illiterate again again what can i even say

all i can do is like

artistically give expression to a self evident stupidity like how much flare do i really need to add to this is just a self evident

talking idiot

he literally said

the protestant work ethic is straight out of the church what church are you fucking talking about when people say the church they're talking about the catholic church

nobody refers to protestant

but like no one refers to the precepts of protestantism in the form of the church

i would love to see him like explain why he just said that

is he going to be like well i mean there's different protestant churches no dude you know what you just fuck and said the church what church

you just said protestant work ethics

you know that do you know what protestantism

was protesting against

do you even know what the protestants were protesting against

you fat dummase

but anyway

i guess that's beyond the point

right

regarding the max weber's protestant work ethic

um

i'd love to take ash

his school on the question of the relationship between protestantism and modern capitalism

because

as we know

in no way is the protestant work ethic incompatible with communism

or at least marx's specific

hey gelian

and hegel remembered came from protestantism

hegel viewed his philosophy as the culmination of the protestant religion

marx is hegelian infused

dialectic communism which was about constant revolutions in the forces of production

and also marks a specific elevation of labor right in the significance of labor so

the idea that like

the protestant religion is some kind of capitalist conspiracy

no that's not true

that's an extremely vulgar and stupid way of fucking

looking at history

capitalism did

correspond to the protestant religion yes that doesn't mean the protestant religion is a tool of capitalism

because actually

and this is something a lot of people really struggle with especially the american dumb asses and european dumb asses coming out of the new left

capitalism has no essence or self consciousness

the essence of capitalism

is a mode of production in transition

to a higher mode of production socialism

so

this idea that like

capitalism is this thing that

utilizes ideologies and whatever to sustain itself no

it's not

capitalism is a mode of production

the consciousness the very consciousness of which

a test

to its transition ando it's already

the already in motion process of it transitioning into another mode of production

isn't ideology wound up in the superstructure

yeah

five

the base and superstructure example was like the biggest simplification of all time for dumb asses to just

get on with their lives and ok this what they mean

but when you get into the nitty gritty

you don't actually have ideologies that

sustain capitalism this is a stupid stupidity

that came out of may sixty eighth

and the new left

where they're like why are we stillalism it's because right to capitalism the society of the spectacle sin no that's not marxism ok that's a bunch of stupid foks from the new left

you were a bunch of lazy bums

much a lazy worthless fuck in bums and scums of society

who gave up on marxism and decided to be a onunch of lazy fuck and pothead scumbags

you understand

in reality when you do have a materialist analysis

um

this is my radical thesis

capitalism as we know it as a mode of production

is no longer the primary

driving force of the mode of production the mode of production has already transitioned

into something else now exactly what has it transitioned into

that's where things get interesting

right

but what we call capitalism today what we call capitalism

is literally financial institutions where not there is no organic

capitalist mode of production

we can refer to today

there are financial institutions

and networks of monopolists and financiers who are sustaining

for example the currency the uus dollar

they're sustaining debt yes

but

as far as organic

a m c m the accumulation of profit

and

you know the accumulation of capital capital accumulation is concerned yes that

we are beyond that

we are definitely beyond

the stage of classical capital cumulation

thank you jenal thank you so much

thank you j berda

thank you so much jaboard

historically you can look at examples where the the

the pursu when i refer to capitalism

i want you as to know that

i'm not so much referring to in like a

material moteve production today

as much as i am referring to

our current political superstructure

i'm referring to like the way the government

plans our economy

and i call it capitalist because it serves the interests

of

a minority of like

financial and oligarchic

parasites

right

that's capitalism capitalism is not like some like actual system it's a way our government is planning the economy

and rigging our economy

in favor of those in power

you think verifox's technicoal furalism hypothesis has inany validity

it has more validity than he gives credit to because

it's actually not technofeudalism

it's socialism

yeah

there you go

what do you mean holmes

well

you're not ready yet

this is like the ultimate red pill

descriptions of the church the preaching

was done in line with that which served the interests of the state or of the mercantile class back during the middle ages you know

like a

what

again this is a vulgar this is what they call vulgar materialism right

so

you have to first establish

for you to say that protisanm was just used by the mercantile class during the middle ages well why was there a mercantile class to begin with how did the mercantile class

arise and define itself and distinguish itself

that you have to have a dialectic understanding where these are all

things that are intertwined

you don't just say first there's a mercantile class and then it post hoc

used protestantism as a way to justify itself the material transformation

that corresponded to the rise of the protestant religion was a co temporal one

it's like

at the same time that it was happening you had protestantsm because protestant did actually reflect

they like highest threshold of what they consider the a universal religion

it wasn't some like conspiracy that was

instrumentalized by mercant

like

oh this is the there again difference we mean vosh remember how i said the di youion voshes i'm an american pragmatist

and voch is a like british

utilitarian fadass a fat pig with pink hands just

grubbly calculating in order to satiate their most base

appetites right

well vash also has a utilitarian vulgar materialism according to which

materialism means all ideas everything that is ideal and spiritual

is just a utility

in order for fat pigs like himself to satiate their base interests and wants

that is not materialism

that his british satanism has nothing to do with the materialism of marks and angles

which was german and it was dialectic it was a german materialism a dialectic materialism not a fucking fat british materialism

you understand it was not the materialism of fat british capitalist pigs

it was the materialism

of enlightened

german

philosophers

or post philosophers i should say

right

um

and i also have a pragma i think it's compatible i think

american pragmatism

specifically

um

is part of that lineage

ovilege

german materialis

but american pragmatism was influenced by german idealism

by the way

so there's overlaps right between american pragmatism and materialism

marxis materialsm at least right

i'm british ro yeah i know

but are elites

our both of our elites are like this guy bosh

that's why it's not good to be too pragmatic

well to the pragmatic materialism would say for example

um

how were people reproducing their existence during the middle ages

there would they're not going to they're not going to reduce

religion to a utility to serve some kind of base ends

they're rather going to say

in what way did religion work with

the way in which people materially reproduce themselves right or

and so on and so on

that's the pragmatic materialist

ew

or or another example would be how slaves that were brought to the united states were taught chrisianity because christianity teaches you to keep your head down your nose to the ground and work

that you know what

this is the dumbest shit i've ever focken her you want to know why

guess why guys

how many of you know why

it was almost

every single fucking slave rebellion of note

was inspired by christian messonic

theology

nat turner

was taught to fock in bible

we start to read the bible

soon as he actually read that falcon bible

how you know

look what happened

so you're wrong osh you're absolutely fucking wrong you know in college

i had an ethiopian professor he was an ethiopian

born again christian professor right

and

evangelical right

but he made a note

of

specifically debunking this to us in class he said

you probably heard this idea

that christianity

instills pacifism and w and submission render unto caesar what it right and he said let me actually show you the real history so he he ran us through the history of the african anti colonial mot movements right because words

we're studying africa

the history of the african anti colonial movements in rebellions and shit and he was able to show us how all of them

were originally religious inspired all of the communist leaders of the african anti colonial movement began as the theological from theological backgrounds all of them practically all of them practically all of them

right

so it's a complete myth

the idea that christianity is a

as a religion of

render unto sea it's a complete bullshit keep your head down complete fucking bullshit myth

absolutely falking false

right

it's a nice trope

per fat fox like vouch

the spread

because

it sounds like it would be correct but when you actually study the historical record it's wrong

almost every major

instance

of fervorous rebellion in the west before modernity

whether it's a slave rebellion or it's a peasant rebellion or anything like that

were all

all took the form of religious

upheavals

they were all religious upheavals to the core religion wasn't just like a a tool it wasn't a utility it wasn't just some like incidental thing like it was about religion it was about

religion

the peasants war in germany

led by thomas muncer and florian gt florian geyer right

wre sin dos gy futs ho you know that song

that

was literally about religion

that was literally about religion

it was literally literally like when monser if you asked him why are you doing this shit he would say something like because it's what god wants us to fuck and do

he wouldn't say like oh we're peasans fighting for our rights he'si no this is about fucking god

this is about god

you know what i mean

every single flocking up

how do you think i rediscovered religion

because i wanted to know what communism is so i studied history every single falking example of anything

close

to the communist experience that we find in history

was religious to the core it was all about authentic religious faith and belief

never ever ever ever ever ever ever let these western falking leftists

tell you this lie

that

religion promotes passivity in keeping your head down that is the opposite of all historical experience as a matter of fact it's such a fucking disgusting slanderous lie

that the opposite is true

actually

what

what made people keep their heads down for thousands and thousands of years

was

worldly the rule of worldly gain right

that like the fear of worldly authority

the

the corruption of this world is what makes people keep their fucking head down

when you have the courage of real authentic faith that is what stirs the part of your foalk and stomach

that tells you to rise up

and take what's yours

and do what's right

there has never ever ever been a falking atheist revolution before modernity never

you want to who the fucking atheists were they were the rich noble aristocrats

who scoffed at the they thought they became god they built towers of gold so fucking high

that they're like who's god where's god ill god ain't you know i mean that's where they were doing

who humbled those people the poor

it was the people on the bottom that would humble them they would say you're not fucking god i'll show you you're not fucking god i'll fuck and put a ladder on that beitch and you'll see

you'll see re right street

i am so bad ased thank you i am a banded appreciate you

appreciate you

thank you rock star tech

it's the rich that becomes corrupt

and nihilistic that they believe in nothing

right

and by the way

when communism came to the middle east

people were like what the fock

what do you so you're talking about islam then right because

every time we want to go in and overthrow the ridge

we just have a religious up

we just have like a spiritual fervor and we go and

we pillage the rich or whatever right they're like oh you mean islam right

you know what i mean

they're like what are you talking about oh yeah we have that in our history you know

why do you think the communist did so poorly in iran

because in iran

the comment struggle yes we want to the people against the shaw and against the rich in the wealthy

and then the clergy were just like

what we're doing that

you know

and

we

we've done that before and it's just like a thing that happens

and the communists ended up looking like

the really out of touch elitist buffoons

we have no connection to the actual people

right

same thing in afghanistan by the way

tragically same thing in afghanistan

taborites anabaptists and the levelers inan english revolution

of he

dude it's everything

it's way more than that two

that's a huge example of it yeat

but

yeah it's like everything you know

religious rural people versus elitist out of touch communists from urban areas absolutely yeah

i mean

you guys need to understand

religion is not philosophy once you understand and make that connection in your head

that religion is different from philosophy

you will understand the connection between communism and religion instantly you will get how they're actually the same thing

and they're about the same thing

they are about the exact same thing

hard to guarante a spot havev

which is

a really

really

a convenient thing to convince a slave

weren't slaves purposely kept illiterate

pretty sure they weren't even allowed to fuck and read the bible and that when they did read that bible

he had na turner rebellions

oh just you know don't fight back whatever you'r slave that suxya but in heaven weill all be equal

you know

this is the most stupid shit i've ever fotken her

y actually you know you want to know how fucking like wrong this shit is

ill give you an example of how stupid wvolh is right now

so

when the spanish empire was colonizing the americas

jesuit missionaries were going and prosthetzing among the

he

the americans there the original americans right

be indigenous people right

the jesuits

came to blows with the spanish empire

because the jesuits were teaching these indigenous people

that they were human beings and they were fighting against slavery

right

and they were there was a syncretic encounter between the jesuits

and the indigenous native religions and they were they were combining them and and you know doing something like that

and

this absolutely terrified the spanish

the spanish empire the crown

they got in the way of capitalism

they got in the way of the interests of the ruling class in spain

by doing this

says the slave master while like counting is going

i

yeah this is a very antimterialist take this is actually quite an idea an ideal

deological take

here w was

wait what this is an ideological take

when you hold on i'm i'm the one who's an idealist

when what you're saying is that

so what i said is that communist opposed religion

there's all there's like

five layers of dumbfuck that boshes on as usual the's usually more so let's be

let's be generous

so firstly

when i'm talking to a guy like james hockey that is no place to discuss some form of fucking esoteric philosophy

so if i'm telling so if hake is interested and invested personally and ideologically in religion in the question of religion

i'm going to meet him at that level right

i'm not jus going to be like oh the truth of your religion is just

some you know more fundamental base material reality that's

even if that were true by saying that

you would not actually be conveying that fact or reality you'd be conveying the exact opposite

you'd be elevating materiality

into some kind of sovereign ideal form

that replaces religion

but if materiality is going to be material and not some ideal form of materiality you have to actually work at the level of ideas in order to arrive at the material essence

ok

it's very very simple

right

if you want to arrive at

material you don't replace the ideal with the material

because

you're just turning the material into an idea

you're not actually talking about material reality but the idea of material reality

if you actually want to arrive at material reality you do so through the development of the idea

you guys get that

you developed the idea

till it reaches its threshold

it's material objective threshold on its own terms

okay

secondly

it' is actually a fundamentally materialist position

because

my whole point is that

by religion being reduced

to philosophy

by religion becoming corrupted by worldly interest

the authentic

source of religious belief in the way that religion interfaces with material reality with some kind of

deeper material as object member material in essence of the same thing

matter in essence mean the same thing in philosophy

communists are obviously were opposed to that they were opposed to the way in which religion

was you was

um

serving worldly ends and worldly the worldly interests of the ruling class

so yes

but this is the betrayal of religion

in a material sense

the object of religion is material material doesn't mean substantial it doesn't mean a substance doesn't mean an idea of matter

it's funny

invaded her country

they rediscovered

voss you guys vosch doesn't even know what materialism is if i if i debated voss and i quizzed m voss what is materialism

he wouldn't be able to answer me

as it wuat voss what's the difference between matter and form

or what's the difference between matter and ideas

and he would not be able to fuck an answer

the russian orthodox faate what ideals as a worseroan the institutionalruption of the church

um which i think was a more authentic and uh

real form of faith

then the one that existed before communism right

so

we have to bear in mind comism is not incompatible with religion i think even go so far as to say that communist merely wants

to do good in the world you want to make heaven on arus

but we want to be good people in this world and only want to focus on the afterlife in heaven because this world doesn't matter what we do in this world

matters if we didn't believe that then how could we

how could we condemn and recognize the evil of our leads aer doing we clearly see it that as evil

because we know that happens in this worl matters

i think that i think that everybody sees evil

but they're not good at diagnosing it norre they good at

coming up with the right solutions for it they end up creating more evil it's like a it's like an imitation of logic

a poll marks himself said

his marxism cannot be conceived

without atheism

and i think' i think it's more than you're likeing on it's more that's true yeah i'm not going in depth on the fucking esoteric philosophical origins of marxism with a dumb fuck like hate

because it has no practical consequence as far as what the fucking relationship between communism and religion is

in practice

in practice they are perfectly compatible

now you want to get into the nitty gritty about marxist philosophy sure i could do that but it's not appropriate it's not an appropriate thing to do

with a guy like cake because it's not fucking irrelevant

right it's not relevant he's going to try to bring it up

because he is fear mongering that this is evidence that communist

oh um

communist communists want to destroy religion and communism is antithedical to religion

when he's taking marx out of context marx is operating within a strictly philosophical context

not like a

he's not writing a propaganda leaflet that's targeted to masses and masses of people that would only lead to fucking confusion

because you have to discern what the practical consequences is

are

right

again for marx the method of inquiry and the manner of presentation are different

the way in which you come about and arrived at a conclusion

is different from how you present the practical truth of that conclusion

right

it's a very dialectic

point

that mark stresses and makes

repeatedly

ah

hak has read more theory sad as

s then than hos here apparently

tke is that is correct here

oz is very specifically downplaying

that that the criticisms of religion brought about historically by communist

really i'm downplaying them

or amy giving them context and interpreting their meaning

in light in what of what they've become

in light of the experience communists have

acquired since then and what it's become so you have to interpret

why did they say what they said

right

if you just leave it a all communists were against religion how do you explain

the fact that communists today are not against religion

w's because

something was learnt and the original philosophical truth of marx

has to be made reconciled reconcilable with that

how hard is that to fockon under stan

how fucking hard is that to understand

it should be really easy for anyone who's not a dumb fock to understand

ok did someone actually add the guy no jiggle to the fucking get remove that guy's remove it remove it

remove it

remove it

who added that

who foking added that

remove that shirt now

remove that now

it's probably not allowed to move it

well on who added that

what the fuck is thatre

ne

guys mods ban everyone who's fucking spamming it

been everyone who's famming it

no i was a joke

it was literally a joke

i don't even know how you fucking did that

i need did you remove it

jesus

call it about comrade hay calden

holding the radlib revisionist infrared or posit whatever to account

susion around theer

i don't know what he means by radlib and what about being a radlib is compatible with religion

how the frock are radlibs compatible with religion aren't radlibs the most fervent falcking atheists there are you stupid frock where do you arrive at an association

between liberal and religious dly been religious how does that even make any fuck and sense this guy doesn't even know the fucking words he's using

what

radlib is religion

he's actually fucking stupid unironically a fucking dumbass like actually a stupid person

literally a stupid person

plainly a fucking stupid person

this is because historically religion had taken the form of philosophy in mark as rem marks wasn't thinking about religion beyond philosophy and in the philosophical sense march wasn't he didhle heartedly

i reject religion but that's because in my view the meaning of religion became perverted by philosophy and what was once an authentic and material form of faith right just

l this is what i mean by he doesn't understand the words that he's using

this in anyway he doesn't understand the words that he's using

he's just oky so vosa saying i don't understand the words that i'm using

right after he said that he made an association between being a radlib

and being religious

and i don't know the words that i'm fucking using why

because i'm saying that

religion was perverted by philosophy

i mean

yeah you have to have to be able to like

know how i came to that conclusion

you probably have to have a background in psychanalysis because i'm speaking in terms of the specific distinction

drawn between religion and philosophy

by people like luk on for example right

but intuitively speaking it does make sense philosophy is about a equals a it is about

the consistency of the sovereign platonic idea

if there is a truth to religion

beyond this

or if there's a reality to religion

beyond this

most people will associate that reality to effectual religious

feeling and religious sentiment right

what religion does for you practically

what it does to you psychologically and mentally

and how it makes sense of the world to you and how it like

has a clarifying effect in terms of being able to find meaning in the world

none of those things are

reducible to philosophy and yet

the epistemological question about the existence of god

and the essence of man

in relation to god and like

whether god can be proven or those are all questions of philosophy so the question of like

does god exist

or should we follow the precepts of the religion you're entering into philosophy because you're trying to premise

the reasoning

in terms of conceptual thought

so that's why i'm drawing a distinction between philosophy

and religion

and the association between philosophy and the ruling class

was already drawn by marx before keep this in mind

marx and engeles wrote about how

the ideas of the ruling class

manifest in the form of philosophy across history

ok

what they didn't mention was religion is not producible to philosophy and actually religion

is going to have a popular character it's going to have a character that reflects the people

on the ground

so philosophy's not going to be reducible to religion

wash is live he can't run away now watch him fuck and run away every single time i've confronted this fat ass live

and i've gone on his fuckin stream to confront him

like i've watched his dream he's like

i'm going to be here up all night he's on my time

he z like block space hesy

you're going to have to watch me for five hours before i before i come to debate you

he is a fucking coward he's literally a fucking coward

he's actually a fucking coward

he's actually a fucking coward

right

he's been alive for an hour

he hasn't said shit he hasn't fuckin done shit

is of falc and pussy

he's an actual fuck and pussy

just nothing more than a pussy nothing more than a fuck and pussy

right

and i can't wait to release this youtube video by the way because

this is going to be like a systematic takedown destruction of voss the fucking coward

let us continue

he is just

desperately throwing out anything that sounds

vaguely yeah i rented about this yesterday one of the ways bosh lies

whose audience is

by saying that i didn't say anything that's intelligible i i just didn't say anything what to complain a this game vos you just said nothing you just said nothing at all and you're just using words that mean nothing

what a stupid bluf

what an what a demonstrably false bluff

all you have to do is play back what i said

and maybe think about it for two seconds

and you will dispprove what voss just said

you fuck and ling fuck and pitch

leftist any terminology

in an attempt to post hok wait howver so the terms philosophy and religion

and authentic belief and stuff those are leftist terms

justify this

he can't come off as too anti religious because his broader goal is like moving people to the right you know or

goal is maybe too strong a word

what

would it be the out if anything which it is isn't even true

wouldn't it be the opposite that i can't appear any anti religious

because my goal is to move

right wingers to the left or at least my version of the left

wouldn't my goal be to

make religious people not be hostile to communism which is the whole point of his debate

i't ask a question gs

who has moved more people to the right

vosh for me

like when a normal human being looks at the fat degenerate like vage

are they going to be more or less inclined to become right wingers

ok when right wingers look at me are they going to be more or less open to the idea

of entertaining communism

and being open minded to the ideas of communism and marxism marxism leninism

i mean everyone knows that my whole model of growth is based on that fact

it's not something we have to conjecture upon

the very success of my channel

is actual living proof of it

the broader like

effect of his advocacy is to move right word people who think themselves ons

i

what

howd

that's not possible

let people that consider themselves on the left

are overwhelmingly hostile to me off the back

you know i'm going to actually say something too because this is another thing dumb folks like os who've reached their peak

of growth

you know he got cocky because he got a boost from the fucking twenty twenty election and that's all he's ever going to fuck and get he will never ever when the mid terms come next year vosh is getting none of that none of that

just you wait ladies and gentlemen when those mid terms come around we are going to reap the rewards not vas not hassan not those kind of people

dial sixteen onnated twenty dollars

hav he heard that he wants to tour the country next year to help elect democrats and encourage his audience to canvass for the damce

i can't think of a bigger gift to the right than that crep visiting americas youth

i hope to god he does i swear i hope to god he does

because he gets to eat the fat l when the democrats fuck and lose and i'll be here for it

right so i hope he does

i really hope he does

i pray he does honestly i pray

i pray he does rase

thank you

tie thank you twine

thank you twyine appreciate you

than each one

um

let me tell you guys something right

i'm going to tell you what

thank you so much meera the creeper thank you so much the creeper appreciate you with t thank you so much

i'm going to tell you guys what

this idea that you can move people to the left

or move people to the right isn't fucking true so here's a thing that might be true if you're operating under the assumption that the reasons why people are interested in ideas is because of ideas

youre if you're an idealist fat fuck like voh you think that the reasons for people having the ideas they do is just because of their ideas

in reality

the reasons why people are attracted to the certain ideas that they are

first you have to look at it on the individual level what is their individual character

what kind of people are they then you look at other things what is their background what's their cultural background

look at other things

what's their gender but that matters too right

and you look at other things

what is their class background

that's especially going to be relevant for a marxist

so it's not that i'm moving people to the left or moving people to the right

i'm allowing people to

discover things that they are inherently and already disposed to that they didn't know about before

i'm not

converting people to communism

i'm allowing people to discover

the option of communism as a real option as a real alternative you don't have to be a fucking

liberal guino

soy fucking jaber the vouch

or you don't have to be a hateful person or whatever

you can

this is an option this is a political option

and people

are embracing it just not because i moved them but because they didn't know it was a possibility before

right

no one moves people

like how he thinks that's very rare it's very rare that you're going to move someone

what you're probably going to do

is allow someone to find a position

they would already otherwise have

they just didn't know about it before

right

you're not really going to move people

so

so we can't come up to anti religious because it's you know it's pretty central to a lot of conservative thought in the states

i

but

this fat fuck does nothing but lie he does nothing but lie

he is literally a machine of lying

he's literally just a falk and liion

and nothing more

he's literally a fallking liar

he's saying that my religious feeling my views toward religion are not authentic i'm just doing it to pander to conservatives if i wanted to pander to conservatives you stupid fk wh talk about islam

you know i'm in america right so it would be a way more beneficial for me to go heavy on the christianity

and the specifically protestant christianity i talk about not only do i talk about islam i talk about the form of islam

that has been most radically anti american shia islam

because of the one nine hundred seventy nine iranian revolution so how does that

how is that part of my grift vosh how exactly does

telling people about my afpyxiation

toward shia islam

how does that pander to american conservatives not moreover

how does it pander to american conservatives when i tell them shit like

i am not a fan of western christianity

i am a fan of orthodox

russian orthodox christianity how does that help

how does that help me win over american conservatives it doesn't

but it's just me being honest

it's just me being honest

and i don't think it's going to get in the way of me being able to reach american conservatives

because i think as human beings they

they would have a problem with it

you understand

not e it's not about like

at one this is why hideggers important because at a certain point

you have to ask the question of being

utilitarianism comes to a halt right i'm using all of this for a certain ends

well

why is that my ends what does it say about who i am in the first place that this is my ends

you run up against the wall and you could no longer just explain things in terms of like

the see vos is a pervert right

i can explain this in psychoanalytic terms

i actually can'

so a pervert

it believes that they know the object of their desire as a matter of knowledge

right

the object of the descrit desire is a discreet

tangible ends

and it is

the truth of their desire and what they want right frid fred the neurotic

right

you don't have knowledge you don't actually have knowledge

now coincidentally

um

paedophilia is a form of perversion

in psychanalysis

and the reason for that is because

the child is is turned into an object right

a child does not have the spontaneity

m the contingency of an adult human being that can actually engage in an

mature intersubjective

form of

interaction with the subject

it's like this it's like they it's like this pure object

right

this is why pedophiles are perverts you want to know what else is a form of perversion

acrophilia why well you guessed it because it's just a fucking dead body right

once you start to engage

in intersubjective forms of recognition

you are you

you are either in the realm of neuroticism or you're in the realm of some kind of a

you're in the realm of some kind of authentic development of the subject's relation to the other

right a tit for tat

you know the freudian stages the healthy stages supposedly of like oral fixation

anal fixation and then the genital stage whatever

you're on that path

right

the edible path whatever what you foreclose that path when you stop with perversion

and wash has now

what's vohs specific pathology we don't know right but

we've seen what he said in destiny's discourse and so on

discord but why i'm bringing this up is because vosch thinks he knows like the material truth behind everything like for example

hans's only goal is to

turn people to the right

so therefore i'm going explain all of his actions around that specific explanation it's what explain that's actually what he wants the only that's what i'm going to reduce everything about him to

right

he has this perverse pathology where he can just

he tries to find a reductive like base truth of everything

in reality

he never has actually engaged

besides making a fucking fool of himself

with anything i've actually said and what that says about me right

he's elevated to the status of essentiality

the fact the implications on the political spectrum

but

what right do you have to find that to be essential

it's like for example voch will find

if you're in a room

the momentor lisa

a a marble sculpture from you know

the italian renaissance

uh a painting from van gogh and maybe i don't know

uh diego rivera i don't fucking all right someust high class art

and there's a twinky bar

wasle she's going to

hone in on that fuck and twinky bar

and instead of

an art gallery he's going to call this rome

this room is my snack room this is my snack room

he's going to think that it's a snack room and define

the essentiality of the room

he thinks the twinky bars essential

but how do you justify that the twinkey bar is essential bosh

well

he doesn't think he has to

his own base

parking uh

appetite is enough to justify that that's how vosh critiques me

you know it's the same exact fucking thing

he's just like throreing everything to the wall

i see what's the

based on feeling and intuition and in true faith and conviction

turn into dogmine it turn into this kind of absolute guarantee that's

that i view is inherently corrupt but i don't i don't think that's

that you can reduce people's religious feelings to that i think peoples religious feelings is authentic mark also agree was a to march called religion the heart w may be try to move right when people to the left with us i kind of the samelest mark

his audience is he waches actually so much more fucking stupid than his own audience

that his audience

has to ask him like how can you justify saying he's moving them to the right like one in the debd opposite

let's see what he says he's such a stupid folk he's literally such a stupid folk

be no shoes a critical distinction

the distinction is that oh that's what shure one had said on let's see what he says about the critical distinction

i would love to hear this

what dies he say to shoe

even shoe calls him out because

even she can see that this is literally a dumb fock wo doesn't know what he's talking about

oss posturing and aesthetics appeal to the left

but then his arguments give leeway to the right

re's a

okay

so why can't you say the opposite though voch why can't you say that aesthetically i sound like a riightist

but that in terms of the content it's communist

why because i call myself a communist but i also call myself a conservative so how do you know what's essential and what's merely aparent

how do you know what's the appearance and how do you know what the essence is well vosh as it happens

yours is entirely arbitrary your conclusion is entirely arbitrary and i've also might be like well i'm a consequentialist so what are the practical consequences going to be

and practically it's turning people away from the democrats has is getting people to no longer vote democrat therefore the real essence of the matter is turning people right

but i'm not getting people to vote republican

i'm promoting a third party

if you want to if you want to argue that a third party' is only going to help the republicans

the burden of proof is upon you to show us how a third party is not possible

that like tucker carlson doesn't move

ah you know right leaning people to the left

yes he does

tucker carlson

literally does convince conservatives

or at least show the reason he's popular is because he taps in

you like economic populist longing

of trump's fucking movement so yes

he does what you think chalcker carlson fucking converts leftists he doesn't

at the end of the day it's

it's your conclusions that matter like what do you actually spend your time doing

what do you spend your time doing you're playing a fucking video game right now what are you fucking do you fat fuck

the fuck are you talking about

he can use whatever language he wants he can appeal to whatever crowd he wants but at the end of the day his his like political prescriptions are conservative

ok what are my political prescriptions then that that to build a third party

that that's conservti ok call that conservative what you're going to call that third so voss is saying

that because i want a third party and i'm against the two party system

that what i'm right wing so what the left is just whatever licks fuckin

licks the ballsack of the people in power

well i guess you're a leftist voss you're fucking deep throat in those mather fuckers

i

so it's like the the classic way of moving people over is use the enemy's aesthetics

to reach your com you know what i

sozlo two nine nine seven

this is a person who's been a subscriber for three months and he just said stop orbiting vosh and challenge him

i'm obening wasosh

and he did it sh it

before i said anything

and then he said challenge him

sking done that a million times

soulo sol i want you to know this you are banned from this community forever

and mors bning from the discord too you never fuck in coming bacg solo never

i don't give a fuck you're a three month subscriber that means nothing get the fuck out of my chat you're gone for life

you're never getting forgiven for that by the way

you are never getting forgiven for that

cclusion

so for example both of the fifth column does this brialiant

bo the fifth columnst got like that rural like redneck kind of vive going on

where he like films himself in a the distinction between appearance and essence if you know anything about philosophy

depends on what you attribute with the quality of essentiality

what is actually essential

you have to justify what you are elevating to the status of essentiality

i elevate for example to the status of essentiality

what i consider an authentic communist renewal in the united states

right

to me that is the essence

for you the essence is

you sterning people conservative you find that essential because it's the thing that strikes out most to you

but how do you prove it's oubjectively the essential consequence of what i'm doing

you see how this dumpfalk

doesn't he's not the sub that he doesn't understand philosophy

that's fine you don't have to understand philosophy

very few people do i mean specially vas she doesn't write

wasush especially doesn't fuck and understand that

but even if you just use your fuck in common sense

what you just said

is just on fucking fathomably stupid

just an unfathomably stupid falking thing to say

garrage you know he doesn't use unapprochab academic language

but all the shit he says is super fucking bassed and super well put together intellisent

so that's a very effectiveay of moving people over

and then on the other hand you know you've got no no it's not no it's really not

you know

this is something a lot of people need to realize

and i might have to go on this rant again

later in the video

but

when you are trying to as that you watch our video of the unknown cult revolution by the way it is very important to be aesthetically honest asthetic honesty is very important

when you instrumentalize aesthetics you will never ever ever

m reach the conclusion you're looking for you have to be authentic about your aesthetics

because the essence will reassert itself

in a new way anyway

ok so you have to be very honest

about your aesthetics

ohh

ok

sorry what do you mean lag

you have to be very aesthetically honest infrared's

like infrared doesn't say what aesthetics work best

two

convince conservatives we say what aesthetics reflect our truth

right

what is true what aesthetic is true and asthetic language is completely different

from the sphere of conscious intent

aesthetic language

' is interfacing with the unconscious right

it cannot be instrumentalized it can only be related to authentically this is a kind of

iid gary in view of aesthetics

it can't be instrumentalized

um

we don't

hyde

that we're communists

because

and we did think about this we thought about all this shit were like should we just be people's party as i know let's be communist and let's be upfront and open

the reason is because

all of the necessary negation

right and and

faithfulness to the alienation that does exist

it is contained in the word communism

if people are already finding the word communism alien and strange it's the whole dialectic of like alienation and

refamiliarization and so on and so on and reconciliation

all of that is already initiated just by having us

be open about the fact we are communists right

um

me being a communist is radical enough

it's radical enough the question then me is what does that mean

right

so

communism is not just a matter of aesthetics

also he here's something i want to know too

how is my aesthetics a communist

if you really think about it

is it don't we haven't we like don't we have our own unique aesthetic

yes we have the c t usa symbol

that we use which is the hammer and sickle but beyond that what the gorilla and son

the infrared globe

these are all new aesthetics

i mean

it's stupid what he's saying is fucking stupid

a lot of people are asking me where zirka is

a

lot of people are asking where czirca is

and

ah

i don't know i don't know

i'm he messages me today

so

he's still alive if that's you asking

but i don't know where he is

no idea

go tucker carlson

who will posture with left aesthetics complaining about the elites the wealthy et ce et cetera but reach conservative conclusions

but wait how do you know that's just aesthetic

right

because

talker is against the elites

it's not just an aesthetic he is against corporate america and the in the elites

how was that just an aesthetic

well because you're saying it's an aesthetic because to you the only essence

is his conservative position

but again

how do you elevate that to the status of the esseence

why can't for example the essence be

so for an establishment conservative

the populism is the essence of

tucker carlson

it's what distinguishes talcker carlson from them

so they have a completely different view of what's essential about

dr carlson

did you see the boate sisters take on dubai

ro i listen don't

i will never critique the botez sisters ok you know what i mean like

damn brothe

i'm i know i want to learn chess too

also

what are you referring to

i'm also trying to learn chess do you understand

so you're not going to fucking find me

otzs defend slavery in dubai the clip is gone what

oh oh

them they're romanian too right

um i'm going to learn chess

i want to learn chess

are you allowed to watch the clip mirror

on stream

if they deleted it or is that not allowed

are you allowed to watch like the mre

you are okay

ok andre your turn to us

but

ok n here's all i'm trying to say

um

we're du bas we're not going to say you know anything in particular about this country

the only thing the only thing that bothers me is when people from first world or developed countries

shit on

you know developing countries

for doing things that those developed countries also did in the first place

it's just

you know a little bit of of ignorance

that's all not to say that

court

that's

again see we will have some conversation on ever bk to abt the mass incarceration system of the united states but i won't

but it

ok unny the you guys

i'm not going i'm not going i just have a ho and no i'm very good at at home

you know what guys i thought it was going to be way worse you guys you go i thought it was going to be way worse let me tell you guys what

it's mik official infrared take or hos take on the boat says

bh they're chess they're chess players okay and

he formed the fuck out of it and he's at the top of l s well i'll see what he said actually but

guys

they're chess streamers they're not political commentators and

you know

grow the fuck up

yes she said something that

i don't know she's talking about hypocrisy i guess

um

she's talking about hypocrisy

it's not that bad it's i i don't really see how it's that bad i mean is it something i would necessarily say

no i wouldn't i really wouldn't wrte

but

they're chess players he's not like a political person

and

ya bra don't

why attack brough fucking are relevan in such a bitche

show power level right here

are relevan such a little bige stud he's he's attacking these two chess your congratusre relevant

dude goes around and just hates fucking successful beautiful people

you know what i mean

this is what ugly people do ugly people to spend all their time hating unsuccessful

beautiful people

that's the truth

right

the boates i thought they were i thought they did something like

so arrogant and

like

disrespectful and like

i thought that ah

i thought what happened

was

but

hoki man ok there's ok we're going to finish this quick and then get back to the

think

um i thought it was going to be like them like

insulting the worker the slave

people in dubai

the like enslave people in dubai like i thought they were going to be saying like

some really bad shit like you know like kim cardashy and level paras hilton type of shit that was nothing dude why get your fucking pannies and a bunch over that

why would you get your pannies in a bunch over that dumb shit

you know what i mean

ellen sep loves getting outraged

but nothing you know

a our relevants a leech

there are no slaves in dubai there are there are

and she didn't even deny that

infrared as rising infrared as unstoppable exonerate laorroin thank you mass squat as reseate you

she didn't deny their slavery in dubai

and she didn't even say she's ok with it

she was just saying that like she thinks

a lot of westerners are hypocritical because they did the same shit

in her view right

which

you know it's not something i would say

myself

but do you have the right to cancel her over it

no

they didn't talk about it because they can be harmed by the u a government for denouncing the practice especially yeah when you add that context to

yeah i mean this is

look look i'm not here to contribute to the discourse

because this is just something we should just stop talking about

the more we talk about it

the more we just make it worse because it's like

yeah i mean for actual slaves in dubai this is really insulting that we're going to have a conversation about this

so

let's just leave it right they said what they said and just i like leave it it wasn't the most hinghest thing in the world

it's not going to make a big difference in the world so just leave it be right

why keep dragging this

and

it's really weird how our relevance acting like a champion of the fucking oppressed people in dubai

when he's a falcking supporter of american imperialism

which holds the fucking dubai

a government together right i mean what's really protecting dubai from iran right now

i don't know

america

like what is iran going to do when it goes to war with america the first thing it's going to do

it's going after dubai

understand

so

yeah i'm not just saying this because i'm like a fan of them too

i swear i don't eve know what they said

and i was i was actually worried that i would have to denounce them

do was like fock you know

but

this was nothing iin this was falking nothing

right

only thing the only thing that bothers

and by the way

um

which ones a which ones are

who this is alexandria

i'm i like alexandria the most like she's i'm the biggest fan of alexandria i like andrea too but

i when i this is really like my

my number one y

chess streamer

boll from first

world or develop

on

she studied relations with china at stanford

you know the thing is guys

i think me and alexandra would get along

i think we would actually get along

not even line

who would actually get along

like i think her personality matches mine

know i mean

developed

doing or alexandria not the young one the older one

that

was developed

all

weys

you know a little bit of

god i hep

argument so much

i hate this argument so fucking much

cool so then just

third world countries can have slaves the

they can beat the fock out of women

in fact sorry they can just rape women incessantly

just fck

you know what

the di

there are places i could go with this argument

well ok people who are like

super into discourse have this idea that like

people can and can't do things based on

how we discuss that

and it's like

so our relevance such a dumb mess he's just like

oh so they can just do it

you're saying that dude because

by talking about it and by condemning it

you're not making a difference

just because you said it's a bad thing and you're condemning it

doesn't mean you're making a difference

i know these people have like twitter brain where they're like if we all come together and say this is not ok it's going to stop

no it's not going to stop you can say whenever you want it's not going to make a difference

discourse doesn't determine reality

reality is not determined by discourse so

whatever you collectively agree upon is ok or not ok

has zero effect on actual reality

now you've come to the idea that it has an effect on reality

because on twitter

and on read it

and on twitch sometimes it does because it's going to determine the moderation practices

of staff let's start a petition to end slavery then thinks long it's going to determine like the practice like are we going to censor this or are we going to ban this and you can somewhat influence that by discourse

but in terms of like real world phenomena

discourse does not make an effect on real life

it doesn't

so

what like what you agree like your consensus doesn't even fuck and matter you're actually a stupid liberal fuck relevance

well i already prove that guy's keep in mind

this is the guy who didn't even know

that hong kong was a british colony so you have to understand this is a genuinely stupid fuck an actual dumb fuck

that would make everybody deeply uncomfortable

any woman in there you could just rape

because like hey we did it in the past

hey

ok so so they're going to stop doing that because our relevant said he's not ok with it guys

all the crimes will stop because our relevance said they're not oka

le listen america did it in the seventeen hundreds they got away with it so we could just do that

that so i

he he literally thinks on

he literally thinks alexandria botaz and andrea botaz

have single handedly

assumed responsibility for the

forced labor that exists in dubai

it's like

he literally is saying that alexandria literally went up to the fucking

emer of dubai and was like

hey you know i know it really

depended on me but i'm just going to let you know what you're doing is ok

and he's like okay you know what

we're going to continue

because alexandra said this we will if she would have condemned us

we would have stopped

we would have stopped

we would have stopped

this practice of slavery

but

alexandria both hes she said it was ok so we'll continue right

i wasn't going to stop

i swear to god i was going to stop

if she would have said

all she had to say was it is not ok if she said it was not ok i would have stopped

i would it would not be ok i could not do it

my hands are tied my hands are tied you see they're tied

she said i really they were saying on the read it

they said on the twitch

read it they said it's not ok my hands are tied i can't do it

i can do it no more walla i can do it no more no more slavery

no more slavery but but

because alexandrabout us said that that it was a westerns onre being hypocritical they gave me new inspiration to keep the slavery going so we'll continue it will continue

that's literally what he's saying right he's such a stupid fuck he literally thinks that's how real the real world works

hate these arguments so fucking m

well what did you to talk america did in the past n go what last iy checked it was twenty twenty one

i was born in this fucking day and age and i would argue against that shit we think it's a moral

wait wit withit with wit with it hold on hold on one moment one moment one moment

m

the guy hold on i'm getting phone call once sec

m

oh

oh

no

oh wait

okay your lfe happy be okay b

i have the official announcement my hands are tired

so

that twitch streamer are relevant

he's argued against what we are doing

so thezre will be no more slavery in dubai

the twitstreamer ot of evant said he will argue against it

so he cancel outs

the words of our alexandria bvoters

and let me call muhammad bin salman and tell him

yaen som on

the guy relevant he said you cannot do the bad things anymore in saudi arabia

weo

no yes i say i have the clip from elis f right here

i have the clip from elisaf right here

it's right here

you can watch for yourself

as our official word he's arguing against it we can't do it no more

such a stupid fulk you know

on i want to see what i can watch this

ok we' going to ask the pokey maid the pokey main will hear as she says

because the poky main will overrule what as i relevan says so whatever she argue going to overrule what he said

ok

ah

oh hold on

you'll be some mone

hes yeah yeah i'm going to wast so booki main maybe should give us another chance we can keep the slavery going

okay o okay okay

okay you all lus meple okay bye

ok let's do it

all fock

your law

is a boki maan why why

i was a bit

one

may goet me some slack

golet me some slk

al

beae

what am i going to do now

i was having buildings be constructed now with no more construction

oh my god

we he's what she said

all i'm going to say is um

slavery

back

don

there is nothing i can do now

there's nothing i can do now

my hands are tied my hands are tied official word from the pokeman

official word from thez pokeman

my hands a tied nothing i can do now

no matter the count

what is she wearing

this is so nice

stylish

to the have you heard a new song by

i don't want to start no people bokman honestly

i don't want to start a bef the me

when i is it oer

h b i don't know which side if i between the botesz sisters

and pokeymin if i have to choose a side

that is the hardest i will never make that decision

i will never make that decision i will never ever make that decision

i will never ever make that decision

ok

i will never be forced to make that decision

mots can you crack down on this chat i'm not even i'm not even

hearing what this shot saying

can you all

can you all crack down mods and wake up

i don't know what this chef's even saying

okay

and i hate to say but i choose poke maan i'm sorry

anti immigration anti degeneracy anti like you know just because i knew about her first right

and

she was wearing that jacket and superstylish super fashion

cents you know

four

i'm sorry i'm sorry i was goinga i don't know you know

i clicked that clip i don't know what to expect

multiculturalism so on

so in this case it's the aesthetics content divide and for ha it is undeniably

mm

left a static right conclusion

which is the evot what boston saying is completely arbitrary

it's completely arbitrary you could say the exact opposite and it would be just as true

he hasn't actually like demonstrated or proven anything

he hasn't argued anything he's just said completely arbitrary shit

hey keep it fucking english in a chat i can't moderate fucking arabic

keep in english in the chat

for me i have game race that a left

which i don't know has some some merit ik

thut and the thut was work

he said religion was the only way people were able to give expressions their authentic humanity right

now

whether or not you believe that in building a more human world i have them out you have trid wife

the tried wife e girl

a shiit poster aesthetic to

left content which is a valuable

and powerful n thank you for your service

ne

religion is going to disappear we all agree that there is something fundamentally good about religion

of course you can fuck introl in arabic are you kidding

marx himself was making the point that the problem is not religion

the prottlem is to our current world and the evils that we associate with religion

are a reflection of the evils of our world right so it's kind of more of a philosophical issue that should be taken at as face value because it's historically experience ldn this is especially true in twenty twenty one

that in no way is the

religion incompatible with communism

have you noticed that

males were a communist

heavy

like a female version of logic where it's always excuse after excuse

it's not responsibility

anyone who thinks this is like hilarious is just not mature

sorry

and i know that's risk coming for me because i have a wacky sense of humor but like

the fact that he fired into his mike and thought that was so funny like yeah that's something jessly peterson says

you know

yeah let him say what he wants let hok say what he wants keep your eye on the fucking prize you know

who cares what this guy says

i've heard dummers

listen if i can hear the dumb shit that vou says

do you think with hock says is going to like shock me

no it's not

people say dumb shit on the internet all the fucking time

get over it

like the best the solution for the black communityes responsibility it's not

oh they have these grievances the police the police are not

the black communites pf well

notic that they have like a you mindset ust yeah yea i

oh yeah boss is so honest

so when i said yea ya yeah

what i actually meant was i agree with you ho rather than ok i hear what you're saying

like i heard what you said you don't have to keep talking

what a falking fat lyar what a falcing lying fat ass

like me saying yeah yeah yeah dismissively

is the same as me agreeing with fuck and hoc even though i say the exact opposite

i do consider an important f remn that you recognize we're not going to insert ourselves other people's business right so i think black people themselves are best equipped to being able to diagnose their own problems with those are i agree that the white life is tright so so bh how is it

that i was agreeing with hok

when what i said was the opposite of what he said

and i presented

just remember i'm trying to find common ground and be diplomatic

to get him to admit to his audience right that's my goal

to speak on behalf of them and you know make excuses whatever i was being so reasonable

that he had to be so fucking on reasonable and defend slavery looking stupid in front of his own audience

in order to avoid

ah

completely caving to me right

i agree the they're trying to speak for like people right but that's whaten you't using you of doing wing it femal logic yeah u

no he's not you stupid fuck

he's not accusing me of that you dumbfuck

he saying that the leftists make excuses for black people's problems

i have nothing to do with that

but

what i also said is that in general whether you're coming at it from the leftist or the your perspective

if you are not black

stay out of black people's business

that's what i fukan said

you stupid fuck he's not accusing me of anything

he's accusing other left sid and what i said is

regardless of what those other leftters are doing in general if you are not black you should stay out of black people's business and stop trying to

prescribe to black people what the solution to their problems are

his black people are the best equipped to diagnose the their own problems

that's what i fuck and said

it's so fucking simple

i think youly you don't really find communist men in this country united states all that's much but that's also because the guy don't jiggle the guy don't jiggle back at it again

am i wrong you don't find communist men in this country can you name many much communist men you don't really find them in this country

and this is historically true and this is actually true in the es common states

the ruling elites and is

so hack is talking about how like effeminate the left is

i agree it is

he said female logic it's a weird thing to say

but i do agree that

the men

on the left are very effeminate and it's embarrassing

yeah they are they're not men

you know they're not men

you don't have communist men in this country

especially true for more overly socialized and more urban people right students and even really working hands they tend to be more on

less manly to say at least

and inview

oh my god when he fucking does that laugh

when he does that laugh

it's so disgusting

it's so fucking

becuse you hear the like the jiggling you hear like

the facts

flaps

flappy

and it's actually fucking it makes you fuck and vomit

it's actually disgusted

he's riding the cock he's cock riding bouncing up and down

why aren't there male communists are there female communists instead

there are no communists in america ok there's no communists in america

but yes are there women who call themselves communists yes sure

but they're not really communists i don't think

but yeah they they are women

they're women

remember this is a has two holes infrared

what

what does that have to do with anything

remember

har said two ways

wait do leftist

are leftists convincing themselves that like

being a gynaecologist is the epitome of masculinity

i guarantee you

if you if kiana asked ninety percent of men that same question

they would say the same shit that i said

there's a lot of women who sad the same shit that i said

it's like

what

uh hold on i don't understand this

i never understood how like

only lefti thist think that was like an optics disaster that was going to destroy me remember they were saying it was going to end my career here i am averaging seven hundred years ok

but remember how they said i was going to i was going to destroy my career

that that's clip on twitter

but only leftists were the ones who found it significant

everyone else was like

i don't get it what's

what's the big deal i guess he answered wrong so

who cares

leftists are the only ones that find it

uh a topic of interest i guess

i don't know r do left leftist have this idea that like being a gynecologist is like the epitome of manhood

i'm pretty sure a man only cares about one hole below a woman's waist

there is no reason a man should ever fuck and care about any other holes

and yeup

i'm standing you know i don't want to be transpobic whatever so whatever but i'm saying like

in terms if you have a general preference

that's for vaginos

let me just say that we have to be politically correct in stuff

why would a man ever care about any other hole like ok you have to care about the clit

you're eating her out

some dudes don't have to do that by the way

and i'm one of them

but

you know isn't that crazy i don't have to actually

i actually don't have to do that

you guys know that

and it's not like i insist on not doing it

it's not like i'm insisting on not doing it

because

i'm not going to get into it but

i don't have to

like

it's actually enoug it's like something

i only would two if i want to

yeah you don't

no what i'm trying to say is that

what i'm trying to say

is that

i can

jat

get top

and i ca play

without having to eat her out

i can be unfair

i can be unfair

i don't have to eat at

i've gotten to a position where i don't have to eat it out

the first time in my life

that's what i'm trying to say

but usually you do have to write you do have to usually

i don't

that's the difference between me and you

right

but

well that's the you mean people like vo well vo i mean who can really honestly who could be really good with anyway

what

what i'm trying to say

is that

is it is it is it somehow under dispute

that i am

probably one of the most masculine men

calling themselves a communist on the internet

is that likey under dispute

name a dude who is more of a man than me

all the people you could think of

that are comparable to me

jackson

and

hassan yes physically but only physically right hassan only physically

beyond that who else write

so is that somehow like a under dispute

what a cope

yeah midwestern marks yeah he's young though right so he's growing into a man

he's growing

into one

but yeah he's yeah he is he is he's a young man

is a young man

ye pistil ime is not a communist okay's a rose guy

i'm not saying in the world right in the world i mean yeah

i am not saying i'm the the biggest

manly i'm the most manly communist in the world

obviously i'm not

but like

among like the fucking streamer personalities

it's not hard to be the most masculine

it's not hard to be the most manly fucking

lefty streamer

just because look at the competition you know it's

that's not because like

i have the highest testosterone levels in the world

it's because

lefty streamers are so like

exceedingly gino soy

and

beach ma

and that's saying something in a society that's already

having a one percent reduction in testosterone every year

so that's saying something that like

these left east are ispecially bitch made

do you believe guno soy can be reformed i don't know i don't fuck in n honestly

because when i think about it

i like to believe it can i like to tell people that it can but it takes a lot of hard work epigenetic lyicentoist hard work because

i'm going to tell you guys the truth

if you knew my father

i would make sense

okay

i am my father's son

i'm a thousand percent my father's son

say so

by

it's just one of those things you know

it's one of those things

i don't know

but my understanding of being a man comes from my father

it comes from my father at the most deep

intuitive level comes from my father

thousand percent

with his

this is this is from the the most stunting

fuckin lady killers

and all of twitch

um

does he not know her

ight

at

i don't i don't think i'm the most be caause obviously like at a certain point if you have so much clout you just

get whatever but

m

let's just say vot you're lacking critical information

it comes

like uh yeah dude let's just say i got options

you know what i mean like

is that is that is that something people are still like

thank you blue runppreciate you

let's just say i got options right

d g g says you don't

ah

that makes me so sad i might cry while i'm getting hit

in two weeks

but

you know what i mean

i don't know

he says this sarcastically is this sarcastic i don't know i can't even tell

but if you knew the facts

you couldn't tell if he's being sarcastic

i mean lady killer i don't know but

i don't know a lady killer but

sometimes it feels that way i don't know

it feels that way sometimes

i don't know what else to call it

uh

the most empty performan of masculinity on the fucking platform jesus christ

ok so it's empty and performative rather than

authentic do you want to test that

also i'm going to i'm going to l a

this month

and i think voss lives in l a

so you know

we can debate in person

and we can see if i f'll be just as masculine in person as from the computer

too short

yeah that's another cope is

i don't know why americans give so much to hype

right

if i was like five one then i get it

but

beyond extreme cases

height is not going to matter so extreme cases means

sticks five in up

and like five three and below right those are extreme cases

beyond that it don't matter

it's not going to matter right

it's not just american bro

then what is it because it's only ever

irrelevant

on the focking internet

and yes in person

they do the cute little like height comparisons like friends would be like i'm taller i'm taller than you i'm taller than you whatever

but beyond that

in terms of people's confidence their performance how much game they got

and things like that it don't make a fucking difference

now

on tender it makes a big difference

i will tell you that on tender it makes a big difference

and

all else equal

all else considered equal height is

a plus obviously it's a big plus

that women like they like

being smaller they like feeling smaller

but

that's only if you're fucking vegetable

right

that's when you take game out of the picture

that's only when you take game out of the picture a dude like me who's got game

and a toll dude who's got none is

i'm getting it he's not getting it i will right

if we're competing for the same girl this dude's got no game and he's tall

and i'm five nine or five eight whatever you want

you can rounday whichever way you want

and i have game im

taking her home he's not

the thing is the thing is

you think i'm just coping or something

but experience actually confirms this

experience

actually confirms this

voshes six three

wash is six foot at most

at most

he's not five eight he's a he's more than five eight

i'm sure he has many women

i don't doubt wash has like

lost his virginity and stuff

i just wonder who he has been with

and i don't know what i can i can't say anything i don't know i have no idea right

i have no idea i definitely don't know but

just speculating about who he has

been with

m

sometimes abstinence is the way as i cand say

interestingly in eastern european countries those are those whore actually right wingers and it's the communist who are more conservative

and down to earth and so on so on

i think this issue as far as manhood is concerned

um it is yeah it's really i guess as a communist is embarrassing to see the type of communist that claim to represent

what this tradition is that this one also isn't houss like five feet tall i think so again like this is so any any left

what

what

five feet tall

bosh you're like

three inches taller than me

at most you're like three inches taller than me

do you actually think there's a big hehie difference between us

or that this difference is going to be felt in person

between me and you wash

we can signe up if you want i'm coming to l a

you're in you're an l a right

so we can size up

i'm coming there this month

like i sad i've seen him next to destiny im much thicker and wider than destiny is

i want this guy to just know like

we should do it we should do it we should meet up and you know have a debate

you can you can size up to me with your height

right

he's in beverly hills right

i'm just band and timed down like twenty thousand people everybody gott to shut the fuck up

but

i don't know what this guy's thinking

when he's talking about height

also

this is the differ i don't know this is the difference between the this is why testtosterones going down at one percent

a year

because

when men have become passive they're starting to become like women

and everything's about loks now right

so it's just an aesthetic like oh

it's about who'se toller like you eer seen two nerds

kind of fight and just like be aggressive toward each other

they're both these like soy gno nerds

but like one is like five inches taller so he's like acting kind of more aggressive and he's like

mm

and it's like this extreme intensified passive aggressi

passive agression

you know what i mean

it's like they're using they're squeezing out every little bit of difference because they don't have any manhood they draw out from within themselves

right

if you're a mediterranean like me

then

you're going to find duds you're going to find bosses you're going to find the mob boss the godfather of families and shit

they'll be five five

and there will still be the biggest man in the room

you guys don't know how fucking works i'm sorry i don't know what

what's you on

but

it's like

it's a different world you know

but you know what in good faith

you are allowed to say whatever you want

did he sare

you can go ahead and say

that being under six foot means you're not as much of a man

but we have to put that the test we have to put that the test

when

because you're personalizing it with me

we will compare h how much bitches we can pull and yes we have to measure quality

quality matters right obviously i can go out and fuck you know a cheeseburger or whatever

quality matters right

um we cald see who

let's let's do a social experiment

let's go to a random room of people right you go and i go

let's see who's more charismatic

and who will command more attention in that room

and who will draw more attention to themselves

and who will command more authority by the end of the night

we can do shit like that like

you have never been in a room with me that's your issue

right

leaning person here would have laughed in hake's face

the idea that no they wouldn't have because you know what

with k said there is a seriousness to it he's saying

why are lefties so effeminate

and for normal ordinary amerdic americans that's something that like strikes them

immediately when they think of left they're like

why are they so like

non manly why they such bitches why they such sensitive snowflakes right

why they such pussies

that is a thing

and and look

you can laugh all you want

right

are you going to be laughing when i steal your girl

are you going to be laughing when i'm fucking your bitch

are you going to be laughing

en i'm taking her home

are you going to be laughing when she leaves you for a guy like me

these leftis probably won't because they're coks they don't even mind it's an open relationship

you know

you're not going to be fucking laughing dude

you're not going to be laughing

when

you' lose out in life for not being a man you're not going to be laughing

when the guy know catches up to you

i'm not talking about i don't even know if boss is in a relationship

ah he can

if fosson' is in a relationship trust me i am not

i don't want anything to do with that

completely distancing myself from anything like that

isn't what matters wh is more satisfying and fulfilling

relationship

for peasants yes

for me no

for me a relationship is a latter

and if you're not keeping up with me climbing up and up and up

i'm goinga climb up without you

so

like

it's bad that

communists in the west aren't

traditionally masculine would like any real person on the left would laugh this out you know like

well it is bad

it is foking bed

you can laugh all you want

you can laugh all you fuck and want

in a situation of political conflict who's going to be laughing

do you think in a political conflict it's good to have

masculine men

how can you

you you say you're anti f and you're anti fascist you think you're going to go up against

like fascists or whatever would if you're not a man the focks wrong with you stupid fock

like immediately

but he has to play into it because an essential component

of his political

you know advocacy of his program

is traditionalism you know men should be this women should be that

that's not what traditionalism means you stupid folk

but you can't skirt your way around it because of people like hake the idea that you should even fight for people's rights is like a feminine trait you know

no

um that's

a lot of you know i don't know it's like

a lot of people think it's a bluff when i say

i studied laconn for six years i have a background in psychonalysis i know

what these things mean

and i apply them in practice

continually

and the reason people are like i don't have time to study look on

and it's so crazy because you can just do it online and if you do it you'll connect the dots

it's not that fighting for rights

is a feminine

it's that premising the reality on the basis of discourse is a feminine

assuming something is true because it makes you feel a certain way

or because you think it's more it panders more to your moral sentiment

is feminine

aminte

you know

it's these kinds of things that

you have to understand

the idea of an unconditional morality

is more effeminatee

men

think things are conditional you have to work for them or

it has to be meat and potatoes how what who what where what how

women is more like

unconditional

unconditional

morality unconditional

true it doesn't matter how

how you do it i this is how it is right

and then men have to find ways to do it

right it's like h

what do you go online to study lk on

ah

i don't know people will laugh when i say google it

but it's that simple so buk and google it

use google

introduction to look on and you'll find something

you can actually just google this shit

what is this the what is thise nine hundred ninety five and i got to fuck and give you an exact web address

why don't you surf the web and type in this web address

lakon for beginners dot com like no dude use a search engine

or sorry use the endex use any fuck and search engine you want

you'll find a lot

introduce you dolacant

and i don't know what's going to work best for you is why i'm saying google i don't know it's going to work best for you

right

i was roped in through zje i read zjek first and that's that's what got me in

i don't know what's going to rope you in

you probably should get in to zziac first

right

probably too stupid just to begin with look on

ram talked mad shit about you yesterday will link me the relevant citations

rem is a pussy who got destroyed in a fucking debate

many times

pms

okay let me check the dms

track some

this is like the jordan peterson of

left with mae

so i

don't think i'll

that i

yeah you say that but you're not

person who surrounded by

actual

proroglodites

screaming ot the top there

it's funny like

it's funny but it's also pathetic because all the people that go on those panel shows are like people who average like twenty to thirty viewers and are trying to say the most outrageous things possible

to get the most clips and get the most like all of them i mean that's that's lially what infrared is

is just screaming

in acting like a manchild

and that attracts people apparently but i don't want to degrade myself that level

then try to reproduce my formula

i love all people

think

if you think you know the keys to my success

prove it

you can't prove it because you don't have them

look if it was look i look how much i make a month

i mean it's not the most ont which

and also if i'm going to drop out of law school i got to get waying more than this just letting guys know

not way more but more

right

but

we're good we have a lot of time we have like a year

we have like

a year right

we buy a year we should be fine anyway right

yeah he debated me just for viewers he did say that

but what i'm trying to say is

people who like you know how fucking hard it is to get this income

doing as little work as i folk can do

don't funcking really work

i don't i don't

i don't

i don't really like i sit on my fucking ass in front of a computer thank you i got

ains

i sit on my foalcen ass

this isn't real work

i mean

i'm doing it because it's the content you guys want

you want this content so you that's why youuk

you support me

but this is not real work

so if it was so simple wouldn't everyone be trying to do what i'm doing and be able to just

not have to fock and work a nine to five

anyone would do this anyone would switch spots with me

working at mcdonald's

finished law school

ah

we need more marxist lawyers

ah

now

i don't know i haven't i haven't dropped out officially

but at this rate

especially since i'm partner now

and looking at how was december you know

i have quite a bit of views now and shit

yeah

i think

look when i start averaging one k views which i want to happen by february

february one k average is what i'm aiming for

there's no more law school i am getting the fuck out of law school

in a heart

ok

once i get above one k average for like two weeks straight

we are done

we are done

withod law school

well it's

i mean when you know all of that about

and he sang it to you

doesn't feel personal because you know that

ind of

job

so well i'm not i'm not worried about it being personal it's just annoying

this wasn't as bad as i thought it was going to be

lett continue

to any kind of social liberalism including the idea of economic rights that what they would consider that to be social liberalism

that sounds sawyer's fok yes it does

like a feminine trade there's no working i was social liberalism economic rights are you fucking stupid

are you stupid

liberalism was literally lase faire liberalism in the economy meant lase faire you stupid illiterate fuck

way out of this you know

china recently banned fem boys this is where that came from

it's actually not where it came from i was way way

i anticipate like

it confirmed my position

because

and i always knew that about china the

listen you heard about china banning fam boys and you were like oh i didn't know china was this base

they've always been based

china has always promoted traditional gender roles

and the family they always fuck and ab it's never changed

you think in the you think when mou

was leading the fucking p l a on the long march

they weren't telling you you got a fucking man up this is some manshit

yes they were

it was a given

it was never called into question

holy fog

why do people on twitter think like

you had some boys in the pl

you didn't

you really didn't

what is this weird idea there's do

then boys were on the front lines of the red army fight

during world war two during the great patriotic war there was all these fam boys

thehy were beating up nazis

you really you just have these rugged like

russian peasant man who just

smell of vodka and they just

they've got beards and shit and like you go up to my guys where's all the fen boys

and theres just all these fucking like burly russian men

just so confused and then they get angry because they think you're accusing them of

you know

th

it's so just it's just comedy when you imagine what twitter thinks about

history

you know

i'm trying to set a different example and several others trying to set a different example

so that cons won't be associated with that anymore

i doholt want that

the soier

you can even laugh without sounding

feminine

sorry

uh left

he can't even he can't even pretend to laugh like a man if you're going to fake your laugh

wouldn't you want to sound like a gigga chat be like

oh oh oh oh oh oh or something like that like

like if you're going to fake laugh you may as well like make it sound cool

bye bye

it' in communist america in the main majority of them sespecially ones coming out of the universities

and academia they're fundamentally morally spiritually how do you want put bankrupt people

and they have a anser wantor they have no sense of dignity have very slimy you know tactics i myself know this fors n because i've been victim of them in't how dishonest

and

and inhuman and dishonorablese people trally are in't know ferstan

but at the same time the way i see that is when when they went on twitter and made fun of me for not knowing how many holes a woman had

they used slimy tactics

no when i got banned off of twitch twice

how about that

how about when i was accused of being a fascist by you when they said i was a nazi when they lied about me and made up all this shit

why don't people do it it's so fucking weird you know what else is weird it's like

it's literally only the lefty political people no one else you know that that iico girl

she she keeps talking about the two holes thing and like there's crickets everyone is like

ah

it's like they they're like forcing it you know

no one else cares

and you know how you know no one cares

not one person has brought it up on the royales

not one person not one nor me has ever brought it up

not one

nor me has ever as many falking people that come after me and i go after

no one brings it up

because it literally doesn't matter

it's literally leftist trying to make it a thing and it's not a thing

like they're trying so hard to make it a thing it's not a thing guys it's not

they're clinging to this minuscule thing

i don't know

what i do you know i do you know

because they can't

can you not find anything embarrassing about me

they can't i meand think about it like this guys

imaginers abdieued

who looks like me

has my face is jackt as fox

helo charismatic

hello funny

hello popular whatever

and growing very fast

wouldn't you really desperately try to cling to like the smallest thing

to try and stop them wouldn't you try to cope and be like how is this career my guys remember this

not one month ago were they saying my career was over

and we get the tweets of everyone saying my career was over because of that

not one month ago were people saying that

and i was just like

ah i don't get it likes

should i feel a certain type of way because

i don't get it

it like why does that even matter

who cares

it's so weird it's so fucking weird i still don't get it

it did get you to have a why aren't you banned squaw w you stupid pussy

why have you you been talking nothing but shit and my fuck and chat

this whole time

it did get you to have a twitter meltdown

how many timesy melted down every time i go on twitter you save a meltdown you stupid bitch keep coping

keep coping i had a mountdown i i i hass career is over with keep falking coping keep coping you can't stop coping

they were they were very dishonorable when they pointed that out

hes taling about you he's talking about how

yeah that's what i was talking about

and not when leftist

spammed

or try to post child pornography in my fucking rereddit

no no it's it's it's when uh

it's whre it's only one month ago that it started it's only from one month ago

how i pointed out

the holes wait hold on we got a uniqu jewl i've never got a uniual before

rainbow facet

death jewel three three not a good role ok that's fine it's so really cool

this guys acting like an authority on masculinity and manhood

and he just talked about the death jewel and the fucking video game he's playing

why would anyone listen to our boh has to say

i'm fucking manhood

a fox

same reason why you cit religion being corrupted because to me evil takes the form of good it disguises itself as good

but i do fundamentally believe that its core

communism is good i just think evil people in this country civically

have be coterrupting it

i'm for

yeah and this is bothering him a lot because it applies to him too

completely and wildly difference that's human isn't it interesting how at no point during this discussion

haz has brought up or even attempted to defend communism

yes i did you stupid fuck i did it in the introduction

since then i've just been having a conversation with haate

right

he's been bringing shit up and i've been responding to what he's saying

why would i try to reel it back to an overarching discussion on communism

but it's clearly not what this dude's interested in debating

i don't need to debate it because i'm secure in my understanding of communism

right

so why would i robe it back to that you stupid fuck

literally at no point iss that happened

every time heill just say well i think communists are degenerate jews

and haz will be like ok ok ok okay maybe maybe but like

you guys catch that

you guys catch that

reminder

reminder

vosh is an anti semite

oh is literally an anti semite

he is actually an anti semite he persistently and has consistently

made it his goal

to promote animosity toward jewish people

unprompted absolutely unprompted there is no discussion we ever had that had anything to do with jewish people we weren't even talking about israel we weren't even talking about zionism

there is nowhere in our discussion with hag

that anyone said anything relating to jews

what is the logical conclusion

wash is an anti semite

he's a fucking anti semite one thousand percent an anti semite

it's like it's like think about it

think about it like this imagine you're having a discussion with people and you're like

oh yeah

i hate

i hate ugly people i hate stupid people i hate

um

smelly people

right people who

m

have b o or something right

and then vosh comes and goes oh why are you disrespecting arabs

wouldn't you say he's being racist

wouldn't that be really racist

so why does bos get a pass on anti semitism

why does he get a pass on anti semitism every chance vosch gets

to throw jewish people under the bus he takes it

every chance he gets he throws em under the bus

and drags them into something that has nothing to do with

you know what i mean

every fock and chance he gets he does that

every single one he's a pathological anti semi

not all the time you know well okay well i think that like black people are dumb okay okay okay okay you know all right i get you i get you

i have said nothing comparable to either of those things i specifically said let this our effeminate

and nothing more i never said anything derogatory toward any group nor did i give hake a pass

when he said anything derogatory about a group when hakes said that he thinks black people should take responsibility i said they did take responsibility and moreover

black people know what's best for themselves so it's none of your business that's the kind of shit that i was saying

right

what a bad faith fat ass what a fat fock bad faith falck and liar

his fat fock vashes

goo

yea all right well i think like communist men or women ok ok yeah i did say that

yeah but you don't get to throw black people and jewish people under the bus

when i attack an ideological fringe group

you stupid fuck

if i attack se this is what these people do whenever i attack si males they hide behind women and they say that i'm attacking women

they projected on to women whenever i attack leftist they hide behind minorities and say i'm attacking minorities

see how this fuck and dirty game works

you see how this shoult works

like it's so cock dude holy shit

can i be like can i can i can i be like toxic masculine if hoes you where you're fucking balls dud you're such a fucking pussy holy shit

where are m i fucking balls

what if i stand and believe everything i'm focking saying you stupid fuck where you're fucking balls you stupid bitch you think i'm a s you think i'm afraid of hate and afraid to yell at haken and and try to humiliate take what i this is not my goal bosh is that really whatre you're going to falking infer from me that oh p wasust scared to humiliate tke

really does anyone believe that

or maybe it wasn't my intention you stupid fat fox

you stupid fat fulk

by the way wash

when you talk about

being toxic masculine you can't do it because you're not a fucking man there's not a fucking manly thing about you no one is ever going to look at you and see you as a fucking authority on what a man is

there will never ever be anyone who looks at vosh and goes oh that's some one i want to go and listen to

about what men are and what it means to be a falcon man

you fuckin pussy you fat pussy

buck and running away from a debate

to this day

you fucking pussy

literal fuck and pussy and actual fuck and pussy

actual fuckin bitch made pussy

that as

it is this is like the great like warrior haz

like like you're talking to some this is like think he sounds like fucking bitter elpanada you know you know that he sounds like fucking bad empanada

they have the same fuck in vocal inflections

oal inflections or the fuck you call that

it's like the great wre your hands

yes it is the fucking great warrior has the stupid bitch

i attacked people like you vosh you don't imagine this what's what's

what's more brave me attacking some one with four hundred thousand subscribers in front of seven thousand of his fans

and going hard on him

or me being diplomatic with hake

it was just a freebie

he had he a nobody

his his his audience is totally different if i

if i did a full

hands couk against hake

the same should i did to that guy in the mongol video

i would get nothing but applause

and praise and support

from everyone on political twitch

you think it's

brave

to slap around a guy like hake

no

it's not

it's a fuck and freebie

it's easy

there's nothing funck and brave about that

fucking

nobody from the jessely peterson showen you're pussing out on every opportunity tofend what you pretend isr ideology because

to defend what you pretend is an ideology

when have i pussied out on defending what my ideology is can you give one fucking example of that

because everything i've said here i actually do believe and i'll take you to task in defending what i fuck and believe

same one fucking thing

because like what it's more fun

to like

hear him degrade feminine men and imagine you in the opposite category no how about

i care more about haik's audience than yours

i actually think

haks audience probably has a lot of good decent people

we don't know that there's an alternative

to hake's ideas

and hague's view and i don't even know i don't even knowh hague was so maybe even he

didn't know maybe even hak

was misguided and misled that's why i'm going to be patient with them the difference between

you hate and you wash

the difference between hak's audience and you votch

it potential

they have potential

you have none

i that's what the leftist need to understand that's why the leftist had nothing to do with this debate that i had with hake nothing

they need to understand they are politically dead

i don't need them i don't just like fidel castro said i don't need you i don't want you

we have no political future in this country

i've turned my back on you already you have no falking political future in this country

hak audience is not going to become commy

bomba book

guess what you stupid bitch

some of them already have

and if i had more time with them you bet you're fuckin as they would

you bet you're fuccin as they would

i'll at least have they'llt i'll at least have their ear

i'll at least have their ear

they were shitting on you his hardcore fans was and that's to be expected

his i'm going up against him what the fuck do you expect

you know what

schads and start banning people for being fucking stupid like

we have to explain to you how this works like

it's actually works for me is the thing like i know what i'm fucking doing because it actually has worked i'm actually successful a what i fucking do you're not you incompetent stupid little bitch which is why you're hriding beind your fucking cheep board and you've never ever managed to open up a bridge of dialogue with someone on the opposite end of the fucking political aisle th you because you're otic dogmatic little fucking plce

see who gets ask mad and but hurt every time someone says something you disagree with ideologically the minute you hear your uncle at thanksgiving go

well i don't want anything to do with that communism

those communists they killed five hundred trillion people you got it

you melt down and you fidled like a little pussy like a snowflake snowflake like a bitch because you don't have the patience of a materialist you don't have the patience of a materialist who can see past

the surface of what people are saying and get to the meat and potatoes of wire they're actually fucking saying it

you are a fucking dogmatic pussy who is actually ideologically insecure you one fucking crack

into your world view and you falcon fold

thank you deesilano

that's the difference between me and you

i am actually ideologically secure

i am actually someone who has

real faith in what i falking believe in

you don't

you are trying to keep together so much so like if any one says the contrary it it you feel it as an insecurity

you feel tempted

because you know what

this is the truth

you don't even know the source of your belief you don't even know why you're a communist

you don't even know why you're a fucking communist so you're so scared to cede an inch of discourse to some one else

because you think

the entire fucking discursive rational framework

that sustains your communist world you will shatter unless you defend this line

i know the source of my communist belief i can return to the source of my communist belief

beyond the threshold

a focking discourse

you're a pussy bro in any other society in any agrarian society

hes here's something i would love to see

i would love to see the fat as vash this fat stumbling jiggling

walk

i would love to see him call me a pussy to my face

now that's something i would like to see

i would love to see him to my face

call me a pos

i'm just interested in seeing that

i'm just interested in seeing that

i doubt

he can even muster the courage

to to call me one in a voice call

maybe he will maybe he won't i doubt it

but in person that is something i'd like to see

that is something i'd like to see

i you would have been the bitchtock of any group ok you would have been the goddamned peg boy of

i would have been what

let's roll that back again

just so i can remember what he said right now

it' for no reason in particular but i just want to remember what het saiden

for your hoz

like like you're talking to some fucking

nobody from the jessely peterson show when you' pussing out on every opportunity tofend what you pretend is your ideology because like what it's more fun

to like

hear him degrade feminine men and imagine you in the opposite category you're a pussy bro in any other society in any agrarian society you would have been the bitchtalk of any group ok you would have been the goddamn peg boy of any

it's interesting you decided to say that

interesting you decided to say that

i'll take note of that

i'll take note of the fact that youhe decided to say them

it's an interesting decision you made

that's an interesting choice

of words

i mean are you going to regret saying that i don't know

but i'll take note of it

i'll take note of the fact that sh said that

i wonder if you'd say it in person i don't know

interesting

interesting

what can i say

the missing detail here h is i know you're used to thinking about that a lot

but i'm an adult i'm not a minor

i'm not a child

i know you think that way about children

you have rape fantasies

and sexual abuse fantasies

as we can see from the irish laddy's comments and destiny's discord

i'm an adult wash so if you said that to me in person

it wouldn't be the same if you said that to a child

you understand

it wouldn't be the same

i'm actually a guy who can defend myself

you know i'm not saying whatever but

i can defend my honor my integrity my dignity

because i'm an adult

this disgusting fat fox

it is disgusting fat fock

he is engaging in this whatever sexual harassment

but

what an interesting choice of words is all i could say interesting choice of words

wll see

a fucking communal setting ok you work out in gym's you don't know manual labor you're a

how do you know

how do you know i wouldn't know how to do manual labor

itch baby ok you have to ask your

he also called me a bitch baby ok gonna remember that too

parents for help with the higher shelves all right calm down ok

a guy who's three inches taller than me is talking about my height

gys three inches i want to give you some reference here right

this is six point five inches

which means

he is like

this is six point seven right

so he' is like

below here

it's like this much ready

here we go

what is it this much right

not even

this is how much vosh is taller than me

by this much

by this much

this much taller than me

he's a beverly hill socialist

acting like he's an authority

on manhood and who's a bitch baby

your falcking hands are pink

you are literally a beverly hills witch may you come from a fucking hollywood family vouch you are a beverly hills socialist and you're talking about me

and you're talking about fuck and me

it's just like what in what world

does anyone listen to what you have to say

on what a man is and what a bitch is

right where have you earned the right to be taken seriously as far as what those words mean

even aesthetically you don't look the park

right i at least look the part right

if you want to know if i could back it up you have to know me personally

but

at least i look the part you don't look the part

and you've done nothing to prove it

people can infer that's the way i am for my personality

no one can infer that from you

how did your father raise you god knows i don't even want to know the details of that because

we all know about

let's just say how certain pathologies develop

and he's from hollywood so i'll leave it at that

what i'm just saying like he could have been neglected in

you know he not given enough attention

because

you know that's hollywood families that's how they are

he used a lot of strong words this guy used a lot of strong words in his dream

use a lot of strong words

a lot of interesting use of vocabulary

very interesting

very very interesting

h mo definitely most definitely

we'll take note of that

by the way

this is actually projection

because i'll tell you what

just by looking at the way this guy's posture is his body language his shoulders

he was always the bitch of the bunch

this was always the guiy that in any social setting in any friend group

was the scapegoat the bitch the punching bag whatever right

but the fact that he sexualizes it

reflects his own fantasies of sexual abuse he has fantasies of sexual abuse

and it's not the only time by the way we have a lot of shit from the irish laddie discord

from destiny's discord as the irish laddie

showing this is a person who consistently has

fantasies of sexual assault

sexual abuse

humiliation et cetera et cetera the thing is

the thing is

if he's trying to direct it at me

well that's a mistake

because

he's used to directing against women

we have someone in our discord actually who is a victim of wash washs sexual harassment

and

we don't know if children are involved

but i would like to see a psychologist evaluate what he said in that discordant and come to their own professional conclusion

we could just say it's been vulnerable people

you really made a mistake saying that about melon

there is there is no situation in which you should be out of self interest and nothing else

pocturing is some kind of

persistent warrior

is that is what i falcon am

and you're free to test me wealchh that's the thing

you are personally free to test that

because

as far as any neutral party is concerned that is the default

status i have in their eyes

that's exactly what i' focking am

i am a falkon warrior actually

to possre about anything it is what i fukon am it's self evident to everyone

who's not coping

we now we move past that

you can

feel free to look i've

i've challenged you to a boxing match

and you bitched out because you're pussy you beitched out

you've had p ts d ever since i' fogken ambus you

clearly

your audience

looks at a guy like me

and the only thing they can say

is that i'm insecure

or that i'm short

insecurity by the way

it's something they say as a form of projection

which is a basic form of armchair psychology that

the the thing that i'm seeing is not the real thing

when you see this it's not the real thing right deep down he's actually different

and then the other thing that i'm short

well if don't care how tall you are let's see how you compare it to me

right

i

ninety nine percent of these people

will look stupid

ha's this pussy has pink hands

can't box

you talking about me or voch

clarify who a you talking about because you're not even fucking writing in english correctly

wash okay

of traditional masculinity to a nazi

wait

you know what i'll go so far as to say

i'm probably one of the only examples of traditional masculinity

on which

i don't even need to say that because it speaks for itself but go ahead and name others name others

you'll probably get a handfue

and i'm not just saying in political twitch by the way

you'll name a handful right

you mame like ten thatt moast ten at moast

there you can think of

right

but the thing is like i'm very much

traditional massew like i'm very traditional

which means like

it's instinctual and intuitive and something i get from my family

right

i'm not saying i'm the only one but

it's like i'm one of the only ones on which who else do you fuck and uphold as an example

ask any of the women i have been with

you know

that i'm not traditional of course i am

the fox

i mean i joke on stream that i'll make her pay for everything and shit's now i am in person

what a fat projecting fog

not everyone's a fat pussy like you vos you fat fucking guino fuck

this is a fat pink fok with gayino

talking about masculinity

the funk do you know about that you pink handed beverly hills little bitch

you're a little fucking pussy vosh

the fuck do you know about fuck and masculinity

you fat fuck

what a fat fuck

what a litteral fat fock

talking about masculinity

what the fuck would you know about that

that's the thing

what would he know about masculinity

is the question

we're goinga listen to what a fad as says about

traditional masculinity

who is saying that where's the judgment coming from

jesus fuck marks wi be ashamed

what

again

vosh is repeating the pattern of bringing up marks when there's no reason to

what does mark have to do with this conversation

this one specifically about traditional masq

what does that have to do with marx right now

marx would be ashamed so this is what stupid people do i mean not just stupid people but people who have lostes specific

idiosyncrosy right

to say the least

all they can do is they evoke authorities they know the word marx carries a lot of authority for anyone who calls thehimself a communist

so he's going to evoke the name of marx arbitrarily

to tap into that source of authority he doesn't know anything about marx he's never read any mark and he can't if i quizz him to explain a single fucking thing about marx he would come up short

and

there's nothing he'd be able to fuck and say right

boch just reacted on you streaming about him

and he just bitched about you talking about him for seven hours and immediately closed the tap

oh he talked about me for four hours

and i talked about him for seven

who foalcking cares

i'm reacting to the entire fucking thing

is i'm making a video which is going to be a systematic destruction

a vouch

that religion wehre you before you became a i'm going to upload this is the youtube video a systematic takedown and destruction of sh

every day is his day in the barrel

this so he can't even he laughs in a soy way

he laughs in a fuck and soy way

he laughs in a fuck and soy way

every day would be his day in the bare

who i wish you would say this shit in person honestly

i'm not saying nothing i'm not saying nothing

i wish you would say it im personally

and i wonder if you would laugh like that too

i wonder if he wouldll laugh like that

i wonder if he'll laugh like that

he pulled up a tap onm his ste and ran away

he feels scared to see me live react to him

how do you think you would fear in my presence

i don't even think you would say this in a v c call i really don't

want to know why

because vosh is scared of confrontation he's a guy who's scared of confrontation he will only ever debate people

that he can be passive aggressive toward he is afraid

he is deathly afraid of confrontation deathly afraid of confrontation

take who's going to the barrel toy take a look at the calendar well it's just we don't have a calendar we just

we just ha s face drawn crudely with with a with a graphi marker all right well

bece i came from a shi uslim bck

this isn't sexual harassment by the way

this isn't sexual harassment by the way

because there's a lot of things i can say to

i sjist i'm not allowed to unwitch

right

so

maybe we should stick by the rules

and ask the question is this sexual harassment

is this sexual harassment

that's okay that's okay i'm going to l a this month

so if he wants to say this to my face he can

ok

o ast quic question i know that i think we're n time

the they haven't even talked about communism my impression is it was communist students

fight against the communist establishment government

with your take

uh the issue hong kong is

iss very complex needless to say as we' noticed in the united states and other world you have vested interest

that's trying to promote these color revolutions yeah and yeah yeah s he does's going to shorebout any of this sh

revolution all the social unrest and it's not real mean any any of this yet this fat fuck can't even fuck and emulate human emotion

the it's not an organic like spontaneous thing just like how we saw the united states with george sorels funting

unrested proceests here

okay

once again

all i ever want to do is is call bluffs

do we have to dispute that george soros funds

unrest in the u s let's see

george soros

malcolm

glord sores protest in america

this is from july thirteenth two thousand and twenty

two hundred and twenty million

it what about the opens what's the open society foundation let's see

open society foundation

and voss loves wikipedia so let's use wikipedia

the open society foundation is a grant making network

founded by george soros

it supports civil society groups

around the world

stated aim of advancing justice education public health and independent media

uh

see also color revolution

does the open society foundation have anything to do with color revolutions by chance

who knows

it's just a conspiracy theory according to vosh

right

he i'm waiting on the full on nazi haz ark dude we got to drop the bowl from the nazi

so

so why is that nazi when george soros was a nazi collaborator

he was a nazi collaborator

so

where does the nazi come from is it white because he's half jewish or something

why are you highlighting the fact

i don't even think soros identifies as jewish

george sores and i don't even know if he is jewish

by jewish law

his so let's see

okay so is it half

ok they're both i don't know why they thought they were half

but regardless i he's not like religious he's not known for being jewish

why did again once again vosh is a proliferent anti semite every chance he gets

he tries to throw jewish people under the bus and connect jewish people

and jews to

you know

things that have nothing to do with itm

ok we

we need to be a lot more direct

these seem to be so reopoz hokongo lot of that reconsss of people ho ow ok

so this is notw vosh doesn't even make any fucking sense the stupid fat fuck that is vosh is at the same time saying that i'm cocked and i'm a coward and that also this is my true nazi belief which one is it voscas if this is my true belief which you're calling nazi

how can you call me a nazi if i'm just caught

right

if you think that this is really my belief and that this belief is nazi

how does that make me cock

right

it's like

it's just a foking contradiction

it's an it's an

unreconcilable contradiction how can at the same time i be a right wing

ah far right

fascist nazi but at the same time becocked

and a communist a cooked communist or a fascist which one

you can't say on both

you can either say i'm one or the other right

does anyone else see this contradiction

has anyone else noticed this contradiction

beause we are covering this video to the very fuck and end even if that means i have to push the c psa video

but

we're only at what

the four hour mark so we have plenty of time

we have just one more hour of this falken video

right so maybe it'll be two hours i don't know

but

how does a fucking happen

that

how does a fucking happen

that

on both how can i be both

is there any way for anyone to justify what vosh is saying

dn kong came from the fact that

there's no housing in hong kong right there's no land for people

people can't find afforable housing it life is getting hard and harder

not

oh the whole o no oh i'm a materialist not an idealist oh let's see what was says remember guys keep this in your head i want you to keep this in your head

h has persistently said that he's a materialist and that i'm an idealist

right so let's see if he has a materialist explanation for the hong kong riots

kong protests were pretty much all about people's fears

that china would destroy the promised

to like systems divide and turn hong kong into part of the same political bloc

they were there was extradition for like political prisoners and they did everything

the hong kong people feared

was happening and is happening currently and has happened

they were

ok before we dispel the the propaganda

and he just spit out

can you explain how fourteen year old george soros was a nazi collaborator sure i can explain how it's not a coincidence that he funds the neo nazis of ukraine against russia

and neo nazis like alexey navalni

so shut the fuck up and shove the cock back in your fucking mouth

out of my fucking chat little bitch

but anyway

sovaschus said that the reason for the hong kong protest

is

because

supposedly

people were objecting to the extradition law

that's what we know sparked the protests

but is that the actual material cause of the protest no it's not

those protests happened in a context

of widespread economic discontent even the fauking liberal analysts critical of china have pointed out this faulking fact

economic

discontent

was the was is it is a primary source of the fucking hong kong protest i bet you wikipedia even will link

we'll love

we'll list that as a cause so let's see

here we go

there we go ready

one of the main causes according to

the robert philip cross edited wikipedia

so they're not going to emphasize this part of it because they're biased

but they they even even they included it

political screening economic and social inequality

is a huge reason and what specific form does that take in hong kong it's fucking housing problem

right

so

and ideali isust going to go at the surface and be ok the official reason is all there is but you're not going to look at the deeper economic and material causes ok

the reason why

the people of hong kong had a problem with the extradition law

because they were blaming the c c p

which

you need to understand it like this ok

there is a political establishment in hong kong that the people of hong kong associate

with the economic conditions they live in and the housing crisis and

the monopolist in the realtors and so on

that's a political establishment in hong kong

answers to beijing

on some level right

so what happened is that the people of hong kong blamed the communist party of china

or there are grievances at home

you understand what's going on

completely correct

call and finally

m

in no way has the extradition law led to the collapse of

a one country two systems

hong kong still has its own fucking political system

it still is ruled by common law as opposed to the civil codes

that china has english common law so no it hasn't happened in twenty fifty it's going to happen

there's going to be a merger of systems

but that was already

stated in when the british handed hong kong over back to china

and it's also because the communist government doesn't enforce its economic policies

in hon kong which are very pro people policies it let's hon kong have its own system ha led to a lot of

grievances that because it was exploited by global oh my god you know swing out

arguing the people in hong kong were upset because they weren't using the same system as china

effectively yes

if

if the chinese if the if hong kong had a similar economic system

or if the communist party's policies were able to be enforced in hong kong

the underlying

social and economic grievances

that lead people to participate in social unrest

would have been alleviated

that's why you don't see hong kong's break out

in the mainland and no it's not because there's not

there's more police repression in the mainland there's a lot of police repression in hong kong too as you

yourself were bitching and sawing about ok

so yes

effectively yes that's why i'm a materialist now am i saying that that's consciously the reason

why people in hong kong were protesting because they consciously believed

that they would be better off under a chinese lead system no i'm just saying they actually would be

regardless of what they so happen to ideologically

the leace

that's what a fucking materialist would say

you're not a fucking materialist so you don't understand this

he's arguing well why were the hong kongers protesting they were they were they were mad they weren't living under china's political and economic principles

effectively yes they were mad

that they weren't and we're not talking about principles we're talking about a concrete system you idealist fat fuck

but effectively yes

what we are talking about is people who are mad

about underlying material economic and social grievances

that would have been alleviated under the communist party

yes they would have

so yes

the underlying causes for the protest would not have been there

had the communist party been able to execute its policies within hong kong i don't know what's so fucking hard about that to understand

it's actually really simple

guys is it doesn't it feel like i'm like destroying vh i'm like ripping him to fucking shreds can you even look at vosh after what i do today

like even though he's too scared of falking de baate me

doesn't it just feel like i'm destroying him right now

can you even look at his dreams

without being reminded of how fuck and easy it is to put this bitch back into his place and check this bitch

forces

was blamed on the

the communit party right in hong kong so i think we have to look at hon konglo look at the protest in russia with volumy look the propos in belarus look at the protests lain america should all look at these in the same leng of course l yeah the same level of suspicion a lot of the unrest happens in this country

he's a fascist you understand he's a fascist he's a fascist he can't even define what a fascist is

you tried to make me define it

and then when he's pressed to define it he can't

i can define it liberal it's the psychosis of liberalism i did one sentence he can't do one sentence

every movement he supports it's just red fashcistm

belarus yeah there's nothing even remotely

then why don't i support the ukrainian neo nazis

it's like

he wants to debate me sure i'll debate him

whenever he wants listen

it's fascinating because

it's absolutely fascinating because

there are people in ukraine fighting right now

with the flag of nazi germany

they are fighting on the front lines

against the russian separatists

and they they literally have nazi flags i'm not talking about like

connected to nazi flat it's like it's the red

with the sirch with the white circle and the swastika that's right there

right

so why don't i support them vouch

is there a reason i don't support them if i'm a fascist and i just support any fascist

by the way

the burden is still upon you to prove that lukashenko is a fascist

is her fashist

how is he a fascist

can you prove that

what's fascist about lukashenko

would look a shenko right there's nothing even remotely

left leaning about lukashenka just

it's like

it's like this dude

thinks that the american political spectrum is like this universal code to understanding

the entire politics of every single country in the whole world

it's like he he reads the wikipedia page of left leaning or right leaning and he just like

projects that onto everything

is it all let's see is lukashenko a democrat or republican

dude he lives in a different country so you have to

begin from the ground up

i do need a fuck in face former mot

i i need a face one mot youre wrighte

i do because i would have you guys spam that right now

belarus

has preserved a lot of the aspects of the former soviet system

and has resisted the neoliberalism

that befell russia

so that's the difference between belarus and russia actually

so i don't know what left leaning means

but yes belarus

has protected its people it has pro people it's a pro people state it's a state of the belarusien people

the fathter

but he'll say that any

any criticisms

these are putin talking points yeah because russia is like the arbiter of modern red fascist discourse you know

the't

w

even pretend to be left leaning you know but

what does left leaning mean you stupid fox

no one cares about left leaning that doesn't mean anything

that has no meaning

o even america there's a political realignment going on so even here where you got it from it's not even applying anymore

i mean

what kind of dumb ass thinks the political spectrum is the actual essence of politics rather than material

interests

it

he is the definition of soy he's the definition of a fucking soyboy

he is so he is what soy is he is soy he is what soy is

he is what soy is he's a falcking soy boy when you look at the fucking soy wo jack when i see that on twitter is vos it's lily him

fascists like has find it

more aesthetically agreeable

to align themselves with this wing of fashist

but critically i don't think there's any real ideological distinction

between

the hagen has i really don't fundamentally i don't

you' heard it guys there's no ideological distinction between hak and has

at that point then what does ideology mean anymore

you even know what ideology means i have to apparently have to explain this guy what ideology means so osh

ideology

it's about how

fundamental ideas

manifest themselves in consistent and coherent ways right

there are different ideologies because there are different fundamental ideas right

the ideology is the form of that idea that underlying fundamental idea right

so it's about ideas it's not about the fact

that both hake and has

are opposed

to the establishment or at least position themselves against the establishment

it's not the fact that both hake and hawes are outside of left wing discourse and that in some material sense we appear to be similar

if you're talking about ideology you're talking about something very superficial and explicit

me and haike are not ideologically the same because i'm a communist and haike is not

now

is it

will would hake find an easier time converting to my ideology than you would probably my ideology probably makes more sense to him

than yours does

that doesn't mean we have the same ideology though

you stupid fuck it means in a deeper material sense

he has more of a reason

the hear me out and you

the only real difference is like which side of the same ideological conflict they would take you know like

well do you want to approach fascism from the christian nationalist side or do you want to approach it from the

guys were totally communist and that's whathy so remember of os calls fascism anything that reflects

not the the demise of liberalism

but the demise of the liberal establishment

so as soon as our liberal establishment becomes full fascist

through a o c megan markel

and the neoconservatives

a botch is goinga say that's not fascism

he's going to be an anti fascist fascist

right

by everyone who protests these fascist dictators in

in the you know in the former cold war

block states

is totally a part of like george sarros and the rothschilds

did you guys catch that

i wanna know if you guys catch wosses tricksuse

he does this a lot he gaslights his own audience a lot

you guys catch that

yup you got it

good for catching it today you yesterday you didn't catch it

you caught it again he said the rothschilds

i said nothing about the rosschilds

george soros is the founder of the open society foundation

which wikipedia admits

was heavily involved in the european color revolutions

which the the

george sees himself admits it he himself admits that means positioning himself

against these dictators he accused sd himself sh it's not a conspiracy theory because the guy himself admits to it

but what does that have to do with the rothschilds

the rothschilds are a banking family

they're not they don't have an open society foundation

they're a banking family from

when the eighteenth century

rose to prominence in the nineteenth because of the

i believe because of the napoleonic wars

really doesn't go jummy

if you can find it

which crater

that's about that's aboutll i have

right

ready to become a communist jam i diin you talk about his answers for me

are has his answers for me are

they muddy the water they do

explain that

yeah they do mady the water wait josh sawyer oh no

i follow joshua josh sawyer

i'll see

uh ya studio to design director for follo up viicu

very talented guy

oh no he's on wre all the time

he's where constantly our likes frome hour go two hour ago three hoursgo

nobody cares

nobody cares fat ass

i sroll through like a day's oh my god so many like waits holy fock

i've done like seven page reloads i'm still on day back

you know i need to have a

thank

a lot of stuff is just mate

but

i think that

a lot of his

you can't one cannot tell what actuallyppened his

ook aookw lied aboutday so we don't know oh no and what the motive was they lie about what what if they lied about in history

the idea that hok

it's like

listen here's here's the goddamn truth of it right

and we can all see it

bosh is an ex forchunner

who himself probably held these views

and he retains this neurotic stance

toward anti semitism and holocaust denial and neonazism

and racial realism and stuff

because these are things he himself subscribed to before

and he remains ideologically insecure in the ways in which he has renounced supposedly renounced those beliefs like

he's still haunted by those beliefs he finds them

he finds

there to be like this like

extraordinary

persuasiveness about

these beliefs

that he himself can't keep in bay right he's fighting this inner jihad

to keep these beliefs at bay so he projects them on to everyone whose whose right wing

i mean look does hack really look like a guy who's who's spending his time

focusing on germany and world war two no he's not hock is just some dumb ass who lives in america

in no way does hack is hack like bereft of the fucking intentionality of like some fortan

neo nazi agent who's like

intentionally leading to the fourth rerich i mean no dude hawk is a very spontaneous

expression of an american right winger right

m

and i bet you he is pro israel as a matter of fact i bet you hawk is pro israel i guarantee you he probably is right he's probably an evangelical pro israel guy

can almost guarantee i mean he is an even wait hold on

hawk is a jesse lee peterson

ah orbiter and jesse lee peterson's a hardcore zionist

evangelical zionist

so

ok

is probably not going to have favorable views on hitler and whatever right so

let's let's let's be honest here and

i mean look wasoh is just the guy who doesn't know how to ideologically diagnose people i do

i can tell

when someone's like coming from the holocaust denile thing

and you know how you can tell because they don't know how to like

they don't know how to like

uh hide it

they can't hide it they're very obsessed with it the's something you're obsessed with right

im

i can tell right this is just paranoid it's like leftists have 't gone to this paranoid business where like

they will hear

anything and think it means holocaust now

if hack is saying they've lied about history

them being the establishment

is it really fair to assume or infer that he's talking about the holocaust

or maybe he's talking about

trump

in twenty sixteen

maybe he's talking about obama in twenty twelve or twenty two thousand and eight

i don't think

the span of hok's political discourse

a spans farther than ten years and ten years is generous

i i don't even know i i don't even know if it'd be like maybe three maybe

seven years

i don't think hock's political

existence

just i don't think he talks about anything but from after from from before seven years ago with any degree of investment or seriousness

you know

to be fair oss doesn't either right

yeah it's much more likely to be the sixteen nineteen project so

pesto is a guy who understands this because pesto works among regular people all the fuck and time

and he knows what people think on the ground

and it's so you have to be so terminally online to hear what hawk says and think holocaust denial you know

i'm curious

what are they being dishonest about

well why don't you let him actually speak so one of the things boss does

is he like he'll pause the video

when someone hasn't even completed the sentence and like oh my god and then like

he plays it and they finish the sentence and they completely

make vosh look stupid for like preemptively responding

they boss maybe you should wait for them to finish what they're saying

and can we get hawks to agree wait do you think of hag jes so ok he paused a heear all because hawks said

the establishment has lied about history

he paused the video and he is now we are now at the point where he's saying has is a holocaust and

so

look guys there's like what seven hundred of you here

am i alone am i crazy

am i actually crazy

he paused the video where hawk said the establishment lies about history

not only did he make the leap

inferring howk is a holocaust deniror

he also says i'm one too

all because he paused a here and didn't let hack finish his sentence

flat out said like i feel like the

hollywood liberal elites

overplay the severity of the holocaust to make white men hate themselves if he said that you

wait

a

look

es

good

what do you mean to make white men hate themselves first of all

i am familiar with the most popular anti semitic conspiracy theories

out there

and the the the the the jews are targeting whites people thing

i have never been familiar with that in my life right

i've been familiar with like the

you know more middle eastern anti semitism like

which is

which sometimes tries to say like yes

they're using the holocaust

to defend israel

but what do you mean to defend the white man because aren't jews white

you're white

jews are white they're considered white people italians are white people irish are white people

they used to not be considered white

because they weren't wasps but jews are absolutely white people in america

you fucking kidding

just because fortune

ran like

wash is talking about something very fringe even among

you're like even a monk

even among most anti semites

as far as i know like where does this thing to target white people what do you mean to target white people

like you guys ever heard of the black hebrew israelites

the black hebrew israelites you ever considered them

i sorry you ever heard of them

they i think they also they also kind of deny the holocaust too right

i don't know why i put that in prorevences deny the wll they do deny it right

they do deny it right

well

they they do it because they consider jewish people white people they don't think that jews are different than white people i mean

where does this idea that they're not white come from i don't know a bit well it's because boss's own background he comes from for chune

and there's a high likelihood that vosh is a former neo nazi white supremacist

white nationalist and that's where valch is coming from

you think i honest to god at this point i feel i feel like i feel like possibly like well i don't know if i fully agree with that but i do agree the liberal democratic lined elites will often invoke meaningless cultual war issues to like don't you think he w

hold on eaven it looks

no one considers

raising holocaust awareness to be

a meaningless culture war issue

like no one

it's never been no one's ever said that no one's ever been like oh they're talking too much about the holocaust

this is culture war nobody's ever said that ok

i've never heard of any one who complains about culture wars to ever say that

second of all

am

even if i did say that which is obviously not something i would say but even if i did say i don't agree with that but

wouldn't it be a sohow of strength

that i'm

confident in my own position to that i'm not going to like freak out on people for saying dumb shit

and then i'm going to forward my own alternative position instead

that

doesn't force us to lead to that conclusion

like

you don't have to be anti semitic right

or you don't have to be against

you don't have to be ust racist against black people

to oppose the establishment

you can leave black people alone right

and because they're struggling and fighting for their own thing too

so because to me the essence is about people fed up with the establishment

not people being racist having an issue with black people right

pc is not going to accept that

because

he make his career is to

tap into polarization algorithms

he would have nothing to talk about if he didn't focus on this meaningless

stupid bullshit right

that's why he can't back off from the topic

any respectable normal conservative

would agree with

because they have

in real life when i say shit like you know what

black people know how best to diagnose their own problems

not of our business

we can't tell them what to do

and whatever when i emphasize that aspect of like

they are their own people and

it's the manly thing to do is not get involved in other people's business

they one thousand percent agree with me

i've never met a conservative who was like no i' st like haw hawk was where he's like no i still want to it's like you sound like a pussy at that point you sound like a bitch you know

if a jew is white then so one is raanient

but jews came from europe in america not all of them there are some middle eastern jews

you are middle eastern

if like if you're an iranian jew who came to the u s yeah you're jewish but because of your iranian background you're not white

but

most jews in the us are white

how do you propose black youeople handle their problem of disproportionately getting murdered by the cops

we're supposed to do nothing because that's a black people problem

is that what i fukin said you dommas

and howbout you listen to what black people say and they

ibon't you just listen to what black people say you stupid fuck

stupid bitch you know what

ld on i'm looking at your profile picture and you're an anarchist right

and you notice why do anarchists white anarchists why are they so obsessed with black people and getting up in black people's business and like

like it's so patronizing and condescending and disgusting like i'm literally picturing what you look like right now

like a pasty white anarchist

who would literally call the police if they saw a black person in their neighborhood

right

but you can go ahead and get the fuck out of my chat because i don't need anarchist in my fuck and chat

believe it or not i don't need you people here

i actually don't need you

what

yh he would fold like a chair i beh man i wish i wish the could just do it fucking do it he do it give it to me

charlottesville they lie about the capital most

boss the boss watched this whole video between me and hak

under the presumption that it was about him and that he was the audience

so if i'm finding common ground with hake that means i'm folding like a chair

little does osh know he has nothing to do with it because he's not the audience

se peple capital protests and char ago cauple lie about the blacklis not a movement they even seem to have

eyes

fold on the black communities

y grievances

so it's

to me i think it's a who knows who cares to think as far as the history goes

i'd like to know present we like this whole time

everyone saw everyone thought

that i looked extremely confident extremely well

postured and just i looked very good this sohule fucking time

i never lost my cool i was patient the whole fuckin time

and i ended up looking way better than hate

to his own audience by the way

they know at no point could they say oh this is just another crazy comy this is another emotional leftist

no point they could do that was very

respectful everything right

if you don't get how

this made me look good you don't know anything about how to grow shit

then again

and i hate to bring it back up

but

if you're a leach

in an empty husk of a person like vasch

whose sole significance

and soul

claim to fame

is leaching off of destiny

copying destiny

and appealing to those disgruntled destiny viewers

who wanted destiny to go more left than he was

you wouldn't know a goddamn thing

about how to grow a platform

with a minimum of independence

how you

have responsibility

and not throw out

god with the death leter

you see any last loss in for it

um i think it was an overall productive of the conversation

what do we call this guys

what do we call it when he does this he's riding the cock

he's cock wriighting

coock riding vo i would shoot myself i would

oh man

the guy don't jiggle

it's the guy no jiggle losch his favoorite dance move the guyo jiggle

i don't

they didn't even talk about communism it didn't even like

it didn't even come up it like nothing none of the ideological

or economic precepts we didn't talk want the fog

look at that amote

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this is the one we can use

it's a sober mote

fok

who do i got to fuck and subscribe to to get that amount

can we get that on bt tv because that's one we can use that is one we can use

we can use that one it's fucking perfect

it's falcking perfect that's the one we need every time he does it becuse it's literally that

it's literally that

we needed we needed now we needed now we needed now we needed notow

we need it now

we need it now

what is it no no we it does does he own it if he owns it we can't do it i don't know can we

we need it now we need it we need yeah we need that

see if it's already on bt

we need that one we falkon need that one

we definitely need that one

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economic control of the means of production we din't talk about statelessness we didn't talk about decmodification we didn't talk

that it's not what people find relevant about communism people don't find

the relevance of communism to be some hypothetical future society

they care about what it means here and now

that's what people care about

ok

nobody cares about some

state lissed like it's so fucking stupid

because because os thinks communism is somewa like arbitrary precept

about how to form a society

he doesn't understand it

marx like hegel proceeds from the perspective of imminent critique

all of the things marx says about a future communist society

proceed imminent as the logical and imminent

conclusion of

a single dialectic

it's not like an he doesn't arbitrarily interject just be like

upon like sh doesn't just say like

like the old testament god to just be like i am what i am this is it

this is communism

it's like it follows from a deeper reason

right

and it's one dialectic

it's not like a bunch of them

marx is a monist he's not like a polit he's a monist he's a monist

he's a dialectical monist

marx doesn't say

we should have a stateless society because it's more efficient he doesn't proceed from some like

utilitarian perspective

he says statelessness or the withering away of the state

would logically follow would inevitably follow

in so far hawx thank you so much for the ti

mark says it would

it would inevitably follow in so far as the material basis of statehood

would cease to exist

it's not about whether the society would be better or more efficient

i mean you

you haven't moved past utilitarianism right it's just like you're philosophically illiterate so everything you say about communism and marx

is going to be completely fucking brain dead and stupid

merry christmas blocks thank you so much appreciate it

it's like

but that is why destiny just destroys

stupid fucks like valsh in debates

cause they're always like i think it'd be more efficient if we had this type of society

and thisneys like

well no it wouldn't be because by any standard of utilitarian efficiency

from that philosophical perspective

no you can't sustain it stupid as hell to sustain that view right

about any of it

know i guess i was saying with regards to bcy i think this is our main point of contention

i wouldll justcommend reaching out and listening to

thank you jb i appreciate you

many black leaders right because you're not you know wasoh is so fucking bad faith even dylan burns could give me credit for this debate

and voch everything i say he has to twist it watch watch

he's going to twist everything i say into being bad

just watch

who are co opted but themprests against is going to sa to house a socialstin they authentically you know our leaders of their own community have

at their own specific agree and they're going be demonized by the matorm medias well and it's something that they have in common with american conserative

so i just uh think that that's aboutly have

their own specific use and they're completely demonized by major media as well and's something that they have in common with americanservatives so i just think that's important for unity but

you know i do all agree that the media so it's fundamentally true every single independent black voice that is not given a fucking platform

by

the mainstream media

is absolutely demonized by the mainstream media

ados you guys know what ados was

it was a movement

it was a twitter thing where it was like

africans

american descendants of slaves and they were basically just saying

we don't hate african immigrants or whatever but

we have our own specific

like identity right

and

they were completely demonized

they were completely demonized

right

they're like they were a lot of them were still pan africans mind you but they're like

you know different african countries

have

different

african identities right

and we want that too but we're

where we haven't a specific american one right

they weren't against pan africanism

necessarily but they just wanted to be able to say

we're not just black or we're not just african this was their perspective they have the right to have that perspective in my view right

um

yeah and then also angie speaks nico house fred hampton leftist

revolutionary blackout adolf reied

yeah i mean

of course

these all these people are demonized by the fulk and mainstream media

when i say these are off the independent leaders of the black community i mean they are only accountable to the black community

they are not serving the democrats they're not serving

the establishment

they are only they're only coming from the black community that's what i mean by that

american conservatives american socialists one struggle

one struggle let's get

on ironically

go

nessary to division but the same time it does't mean

we should be trying to mak an effort to bridge those divisions as there are in my view that you have described the divisions i like to

yes i have

or if youem describe them because they're pretty fucking self evident

there is a big racial divide in this country we don't want a fucking

stoke the racial divide

we don't want to

we don't want to we don't want to promote

ox

you know complaints about you know black people in shit

that's a form of stoking racial divisions when hock is attacking black people or critiquing them or whatever

he's stoking racial division for no reason

we don't want that

yeah do you have any would be a black leader that

that you think we historically you have

wh would voss what do you think i'm going to say like what are you so excited for

yeat he doesn't know how conservative so many latinos and black people are

pations like the nation of islam right oh man

yeah i mean you have people killed

malcolm nice

yes catch that

just curious did you guys catch that

he said the people who killed malcolm x

you all caiss that

you all catch that right

he said the nation of islam killed malcolm x

for all those who don't know this

it is very likely the fb i killed malcolm x

the two people who were charged there was two people charged from the nation of islam

with the murder of malcolm x and they were just exonerated

so what does that tell you

malcolm xs daughter was also recently found

dead in their apartment

rested peace

but

what does that tell you there's something really weird going on and

if you think the nation of islam did this

you're really a falckings

thank you louis farrakan i appreciate you

currently controlled by luis farak speak of the devil on a nazi

good work

what

louis farrakhan is a nazi

again it's beyond the threshold of sanity what do you even say to that

farakhans a nazi

butight

for good

i like who's the first person who comes to your blong

i need more energy right

how ma me eat this musgrose stek

keep it in these or become both

never mind when you think uh when you think of uh uh

black leader oh i think of

the nation of islam really that's the first thing

the come

yeah it is

it's one of the only independent black organizations

that is not answerable to the fucking democrats

or any other higher power

it comes from the black community grassroots it's one of the o it's one of the biggest ones in america

matter of fact

nation of islam membership

estimated fifty thousand members

estimated fifty thousand members

you ever watched the voszflowers debate

i don't give a shit about professor flowers

they talked a lot of shit about me on their twitter so fuck them

don't give a shit about them

she's a lib she's just a liberal i don't know anything about her except she's a liberal

simple as that she's a liberal

he joined along the chorus of white leftist

echo chamber attacking me that tells me all i need to know about her she's a fucking lib

democrat live

simple as that

comes to your mind

just that's the that's the one right off the dome right there really

m

yeah by the way

i bet she was really polite to wash too you know

ibs she was like osh i want to find common ground with you

i hate that guy has i agree with you has is the worst

i want to find common ground with you has

reap w you so i don't give a fuc

it's got nothing of fuck to do with me

let brain vibrating at intense speeds to quickly think of the worst organization

the worst

the most one of the most based ones you mean

why should i think it's the worst organisation

i get why you do boss you're like a fat beverly hills socialist and a white supremacist

so i get why you would hate them but why should i hate them is the question

why should hars hate them

group he can imagine you know

yeah ya

guys so so os why don't you name a group

never ask haz what who is favorite german leader in history is

worst mistake of my life

what is up with this white supremacist projection

why does os think everyone is tempted to be a fuck in neo nazi

yeat he's obsessed with nazis because

i think vosh like

secretly wants to

be are nazi

but he doesn't

because it's not

alloued

i don't know

he's so obsessed with it it's like how do you go from farrakhan to nazis

i don't know people need to remember this buth you know the nazis were european white supremacists

who thought that

all other races were inferior

and that this is the culmination of european colonialism

i don't know is that not relevant

is it not relevant

yeah it's a fucking fortchune instincts ont to all ofer things exactly

by the way if you want to know my favorite german leader

it's gonna be

wow there's a lot to choose from

favorite german leader

glory in gyor

he's one of them

comes to mind

frederick the great

ernest almann yeah

but he never talman never seized power so

ernest almann

um

ismrk

is got to be up there somewhere

mean whether you like bismarck or not he was a great leader

i

united germany

munser yeah i said florian geyer because geyer was

you guys it's really interesting because

the story of florian guyre was basically that

when the presidents revolted

led by thomas muncer

most of the armies in europe were still professional so it was based on knights right

so there is one

renegade band of knights

who came from the

upper class

but turned against the upper class for very mysterious reasons

and they were called the black

the black army the black band

and they were led by florian geyer

and they joined the peasant revolt and helped the peasants

a as the professional army as a professional army

and no one knows their motivations no one knows why they did it

i don't fuck to know why they did it

they did

uh uh uh well uh

mm

i forgot we're still watching this fat flok

louise farrakhan doesn't even pretend to be a lefty right does louise

wking cares

it doesn't pretend to be a love tea

wases that even mean

he doesn't have gyno

farrakhan openly call himself a fastist what's his economic risk

the most hilarious irony

of vous

he is so obsessed with the political spectrum

and yet

he has actually arrived at a point

where the entire american left

ate his falking gots

i promise you

go to any local anarchist

worg

any antifa

any d s a chapter they're all friends with each other by the way they all know each other all connected

go to any of them

and ask him he guys what do you think of osh bash he's a debate b white supremacist i hate bosh bosh he's such a pig bash he's such a chauvinist bash

they're all gonna say that shit

bch that's the left right now the left fuckn hates you

right

the left absolutely despises you

you only have your fuck and colt at least i have a working pipeline

that's growing infrared you don't even have a fuckin pipeline you're just a fuckin calt

you know what vosh is

hohes like the jim jones

jonestown he just a cult

you're in the middle of a jungle you're a cult

may say

views

ok what about like

socialism

no just social media

uh economic

n just that

uh

im know that's community community community community comm why would farrahkhan talk about those things

what the fuck why would he talk about that

what

i love how you have to i love how we even begin with the premise that

oz agrees with everything farrakon says

or is one hundred percent ideologically alit not everything is ideology

it's about who's the independent leader the black leader

and farrakhan is one

does that mean i am a idiologically aligned with him

well it's not my business to be ideologically falking alined by him right

how am i

going to make an ideology for black people i am not black i don't come from a black community

all i can do is have dialogue

how am i going to prescribe an ideology for black people

all i can do is have a dialogue

i don't come from a black community

i don't

have roots in the black community

i

am not black myself

how am i going to prescribe

who are people

i have no business

leading

and ideology

i can have dialogue and we can find common ground

and from there we may come to a common ideology

but that's the sea

this is bosch's

anglo universalism

he first comes to what he considers the true ideology then you impose it on everyone else

instead of the chinese way which is

first we respect our boundaries

then we have dialogue

then we work from the bottom up to a common

understanding

that's my approach it's not

what a stupid fuck you know you know what this is

this is like all these leftists on twitter

who like idolize the black panthers cacuse they project this i oh the black panthers were just like me they were black people who agreed with my ideology of of marxism

shut the fuck up dude you're not black

the black c like

yeah they were marksist leninis whatever but

that don't mean they're like youre people

it don't mean you can claim them as yours and your history

they're not your history

you don't get to claim them history is not based on ideology

it's based on people what people do you come from

if you're not black that's not your fuck in history you don't get to claim them as yours

community community community ok not that

bascism nothing for that

does he even have any economic

oh he's not even anti semitic either look he wanted to heal the rift between him and the jewish community

now search anti semitism what i just searched jew a fifty eight wow so he searched you look at this

this is what a slimy fat fox is

the first result in a one nine hundred sixty six interview

with louis gage junir he speculated that his father jeann may have been jewish

thearikonn faughed and speculated

that his own father

might have been jewish

so why the fuck like

and he didn't talk about this even

ms p b j

can i throw a corn dog at you

who are you

check mark

what

what is this

okay

zercus x or are you the one with a spider

oh ok i remember

this guy must have a lot of opinions on jewish people

now we

we know what he's about

we know we know

but wh he just controlled f and he didn't even talk about what he controlled f

roll it back look at this

look what he just did

now search anti semitism what i just searched je a fifty eight wow

like this guy he tried

and then the thing directly contradicted him so he immediately left and played it off

i must have a lot of opinions on jewish people

n he immediately to exit out of it

it completely backfired no one in his chat pointed it out by the way no one in his chat pointed it out

completely fok and back fire what a lazy fat fox

know what he's about

we know we know we know what he's about let's you know you know how do you know what he's about

do you know what he's about we know what he's about prove it

i'm calling the bluff

what do you know what this is about

how can you justify what you think you know

yeat dude's caught in fucking for ky

whether you have the tres marks gards i would have deleted the vot if that happened that would have been so embarrassing

yeah and if even if he did say some shit

that's fine you can disagree with him that don't mean

you consider him an enemy right

ly

marcus garvey was an anti communist he

i don't blame marc aus gardian for being an anti communist

the communists were absolutely fucking horrible in their approach

two

the national question in the u s i don't blame him for being an anti communist

it was explicitly

he was explicitly an anti communist

so what

that's like saying that's like blaming the iranian revolutionaries for being anti communist

i can't really i really can't

he was a pan african if communists fuck up that's their fault

a white a black separatist who

i support pan african black separatists

who wanted a

fascism

no he didn't want fascism s the fuck of the fucking lion

dud how does anyone say that marcus you don't know anything about black history

you're going to be out here

talking shit about marcus garvey he was so fuck in formative

and important

he called mussolinia dumbass yeah but marcus garviy was so important

in influencing

ah the black consciousness movement and whatever right

like he was so important how do you fucking go and write off marcus garvey

the fog

ud you're literally it's just some fat white guy what the why youven talking about this

random fat white dude just talkin about fuckin marcus garvey like it's his business

n don't even know how stupid you sound

you don't even know how stupid you sound when you talk about this

you're a beverly hill socialist

what connections do you have to black people

what connection to the black community do you have

none

you look stupid

you look stupid talking about this

darvey told historian j rogers that he and his followers were quote the first fascist

adding that mussolini copied fascism for me but the negro reactionary sabotageed

okay

f dr also praised mussolini

in the early years believe it or not

some of the only people to call out

a mussolini were a communist actually

doesn't mean he was a fascist

yeah he said we were the first fascist but what did he mean did he mean i am a follow the fascist doctrine or did he mean like

you know di was he basically just saying all musolinis nobody he's trying to take credit from me he's trying to take

copy me or whatever write

what do people it's important to try to understand what people fuck it mean is it fair to call garvia fascist

because he said this

well logically yes because he said we were the first fascists

but what did he mean by that what did he mean by fascist did he mean like

try to form a unified cohesive movement around some kind of

national identity

if garvey's going to associate that with fascism then that's what he's going to say but

there's way more to fashion some

to that right

he was

but

moscellany copy my homework

but i think it's ok when you're reading historical passages to say that word ok

the o is fine the a and the r aren't ok but you can say the o

otherwise you couldn't read anything from m ok

uh anyway um

oh

he's

how is this the leader of the theaar like

explicitly anti communist in fact wait if i open that again i'm pretty sure i cauln find old i' sorry i'm sorry

like i said

if you thought ideology was the essence of politics

this would be an all

but it's not

i don't give a fuck that he was anti communist

if he's anti communist then my job as a communist

would have been to convince him otherwise if i had a dialogue with him

inso far as i did

other than that i can't judge his significance based on his views on communism

that's like saying you know like

the s s r supported nasser and nasser literally killed communists

nasser hung communist

they were hung by nasser

gamel abdul nasser the leader of egypt

he was also an anti communist

the leaders of syria were also anti communists

saddam the iraqi government was anti communist

that did not stop the uus s r

or china from supporting them

because ultimately

ideology isn't what determines material reality

it's just incredibly funny to me like who's the greatest enemy to communism oh it's like george soros and the democrats from haz you know

yes because

communism isn't reducible to communism as an ideology

it's like

that if then if we're materialist

then this like the essence of the idea is material

it's not the idea itself

how is that hard to understand

a is not a it's not about a being a it's not about

preserving the pure ideological form of communism

the meaning and significance and essence of communism is not reducible to the ideal form of communism

it's it it's

material

i yeah and george soros would agree that he's a

the biggest enemy of communism

george soros named the leader of the chinese communist party

jijen ping

as the number one threat to the open society

it's like

bas

thank you andy appreciate you

also it's really weird to say enemy of communism

if you're talking about communist states i get it and

or maybe we're talking about the socialist bloc

well

marcus garvey

was not a threat to the socialist bloc or the soviet union at all

georde sorows was

now was id ideologically speaking was garvie opposed to communism yeah

but where does that stand in relation

to the real movement which marx actually said communism is

the real movement and nothing more marx said communism is not a future society it is the real movement

thatublates the present state of things

so

does an anti communist strictly mean

is that strictly going to be measured

based on ideology no it's going to be measured based on

your relationship to the real movement

and garvey

was more of a communist

in many ways

then communists at the time

because he was building the prerequisites to a

black communism

which requires

a national self consciousness

as it's prerequisite

and then he's like ok well wre's a black leader well what about this fashion

there is no evidence garvey was ever sympathetic to socialistm

while in the u

so what

he strongly opposed attempts by socialists and communist groups to recruit african americans the trade union movement and urge after

americans not to support the communist party

yeah because the communist party

wasn't a black led organization so why would he

he viewed the communist movement as a white person's creation was not

which it was

not in the interests of afric american

he coul

call it a dangerous theory

i

the communist internationale characterized gard

because it seeks to put government in the hands of ignorant white mass who have not been able to destroy

their prejudice

so

and maybe a good thing is so he's basically insisting on the necessity

of independent black politics and independent black national self determination

well as a communist i would consider that a prerequisite

s

a successful communist nvement in the usa

yet garvey built up the foundations of the fucking black panthers

there would be no black panthers without garvey he's like the foundation of that

are you guys it's well stupid are you just talking stupid

wash haay fer as wash

why

bed

the black panthers form

why didn't they

just stay in the communist party

angela davis was a member of the communist party

why didn't they just

stay in the communist party why did they even

form the black panthers

i wait for voss to respond can voss respond

oka no response

he just shakes his gui uw

the reason is because

they were building on the foundation laid by garvey according to which there is a necessity of black national self determination

it's that simple

the thing that separates the black panthers from the communist party

people like garvy

marcus garvey

and there's people you know

there's people that came after garvy too that built on the foundation

buckley right is that his name

william f buckley

no not william a bukley with the funk

why the fock did i say that

what was his name

no yet i was the conservative i don't know why fuckin said that what was his name

his name was

was it robert

he went to china and he posed with a gun

robert f williams

no robert f williams

robert f williams i don't know why i said william f buckley what the fuck

robert f williams there you go

robert f williams

there you go

four

not baldwine

garvism as reactionary bushwi philosoph robes and i think robeson was more associated with the communist party

this is who has is holding water for

okay

and he noted it was a secular movement to it' ya

why are you soying out and exiting out i can't handle it i ca handle the fact that it was secular this is too ridiculous

but how is that ridiculous when did i say

what is so ridiculous about it being secular what is he even talking about oh what because oz spoke favourably about religion

oz doesn't think

osdesn't believe in secularism

ah

are you guys even following this

are you even following this stupidity this utter falcc and stupidity is brain dead falc and stupidity

on h's part

this amass

is making it seem like

marcus garvey promoting secularism or being secular

he's like

radically in contradiction to my views

or what i've said

what

what are you trying to fucking say if you ask me about independent black leaders

i'm going to give you people not too most ideologically align with me but who most authentically represent black people independently

why is that so hard to understand even like

there's so many layers to the stupidity first he's assuming i'm against secularism then he's assuming

that i'm conditioning my naming of marcus garviy on grounds that i ideologically agree with him it's like

there's so much layers to this that make him look like a fucking idiot

i know that me saying over and over again that has is a fastist like doesn't hold much water because ive said it so many times and all you already understand and believe it but like jesus christ

oh no voshs fucking audience thinks i'm a fascist whatever will i do

whatever w will be my source of growth going forward

i don't know maybe the same one that i've been

using since i debated wash remember when i debated wash and he was like

he was like

oh my god has is never growing ever again

o is never gona grow because i'm gona ignore him

oz's source of growth is

done and cut off

pausel is over

has is done

and then i just like

growed a shit ton

and he and then he had to react to this because of that

remember when that happened

just funny how obviously

successor

you have malcolm x historically famously called

the democrats the wols and cheap clothinges was a very did he have any otherp did malcolm x say anything besides criticizing the democrats or was that oh he's get he's getting a little bit aggressive

hide your twinkies

he's getting a little aggressive he's hungry hide the twinkies

at to the totality

of his ideological he was killed by the nation of

yet

hide the twinkies

voss you need to calm yourself down big boy

he might have a mental illness i don't know maybe he has a mental illness i don't know who thinks this way like he's just like s

sowing out into freaking out

when he doesn't understand

that

i'm not

giving like in a

general description of malcolm x to you

to anyone i'm talking to heart

so if i'm talking to het

obviously i'm going to highlight the things about malcolm x

they are going to be the most the biggest source of common promoting common ground

obviously i'm going to emphasize

what malcolm x said about the democrats because a

it proves that he was an independent black leader

i mean look

when the whole point like look eyes hack asked me

can you name any independent black leaders who are not beholden to the democrats and then i say

yeah malcolm x who called the democrats wolves and sheep's clothing and voscos

yeah but

that's not what i was being asked

i was being asked

to name

independent black leaders who are not beholden to the democrats so i named one and gave an example of why he wasn't beholden to the democrat it's like

it's so simple

it's like so fuck and simple right

you think he's going to use mental illness as an excuse for why he can't he was he said all this shit yeah maybe he would

he said he legitates autism

oh

ohh

yeah i didn't know that i didn't know he said that

all right we'll steer we will steer clear of anything relating to that

going forward now that we know that

spicy chicken fingers you are such a little bitch

where such a little bit

this dude spicy little fingers

went into latina's chat and he was like

your latina

everyone on zirko's royale was talking shit about you

and she was like huh and she was like yeah

all the girls

we're demning zerka not to let you on anymore and to kick you off

and they're all they're all talking shit about you and

she was like

and she was like where's the proof and he was like call call has

and i was in the fuckin gym and she called me

and asked me about it and i was like what

why would you say that

it islam

so like malcolm x famed for his belief that the democrats are bad it's like well they look read from that

yeah do you he he just lost the plot about what we were even talking about

added nothing else you know

brich tradition and there what a stupid fok he can't even respond to what i'm saying

living people who a

who a

i talk with lex practically whoing to be wle to chet

seriously has

every day on my my radio show

some of them have sen some of them agree with me many of them agree with me

me can you believe people are this fuckin stupid asked bosch and his chat can you believe anyone could be so fuckin stupid and brain dead

you don't i many have that anger they've taken on false identities i think a blackpra is a light so they have embraced the islam stuff the nation islam what your parents think when you left this year us somethink

com

i think they were okay with it um

wait the nation of islam guys who killed him were exonerated recently dog

wasn't the person who killed him literally nation of islawm like the rest there we go

quickly killed him along

nation

of islam

exonerated

anviicted illingu next week ore o

the nine eenred sixty six oh hol on hold on

convictions of the two men are expected to be thrown out after a lengthy investigation vutly c outsils of rights lead

to the men heky let's see this

let me look this up myself

alcolm x's assassination

thomas hagan

yeah

and found guilty of the assassination expect have theerir convictions thrown out

for decades histories a cast oubt the two men muhammad aziz and k islam who each spent more than twenty years in prison their exoneration

there were like five people who were convicted ok wait yeah how many people were convicted hold on so wait these two weren't the ones who killed him directly they were just convicted as part of the conspiracy to kill macomc

but there were still other nation of islam members who

whose convictions are maintained

no it would be very surprising if the conviction was overturned on the guy who was found to have kill him directly because i think the case against that i was pretty solid

evidence is withheld that nobody actually knows

why he was killed

tuesday

the nation of islam does not claim it

so that

the hagen guy that you're talking about

he hasn't gotten exonerated but no one knows what his real connection

to any conspiracy is to kill malcolm x

so that guy could have been in just an f b i you know whatever

no one knows

ok the assassination of malcom a

sho multiple times three members of the nation islam of nation of islam are charged with the murder given

indeterminate life sentences

the two were exonerated and hagen

men works onerateed ok so one of the three

one of the three remains

yes so you still can't say the nation of islam did it

heard wet to bit to it it was on video ok ok

so my point stands but it was the f b i too yeah it was

you cain me you think the f b i doesn't want the f b i the f honest to god i feel like i

hold on guys

i just want to let you know

this is the face of a man

who knows what's best for black people

look at it

le me let me give you a better pace for

just want to show you the face of a man who knows what's best for black people

ready

ara is on

this is the face of a man who knows the best he knows best

he knows best for black people

he knows best

he gets to speak on their behalf and talk about

who's the f b i and what's best for the f b i and everything

he knows best

by the way guys

you know the resemblance between this and the soyjack

you think it's just a resemblance no the soyjack actually comes from this it actually comes from this

picture

hope you know that

it literally comes from this

it's a carbon copy come on

it's a carbon copy

it's a fuken carbon copy

it's a carbon foking cot like

this is what we mean by the decline of testosterone by one percent a year it's this this is what we're talking about dude

we've always been talking about this this is what we fuck and mean

and it's not even a joke anymore it's like we like to laugh and joke about it but it's not a joke anymore it's actually just

the truth

it's literally the truth i mean it's not a joke it's actually not even a joke

which is the that's the sad thing it's not a joke

you know

it's not even a joke

oh god

why does anyone watch this guy like this is what you want to become

i can understand why people watch hassan because they're like oh if i watch hassan i can become more like him

but why would you want to be more like this

how much more downhill can bvoss viewers get watching a guy like this i don't know

the reason malcolm x was assassinated when he was

was probably because he ditched all the cringe fucking nation of islam perspectives you know wens

nation of islam is a gift to the f b i were there rath

why

ical advocacy is like a what if we all just leave which is never going to happen and has

i don't think they advocate for a leaving

you stupid folk

maybe they did at one point

absolutely no bearing on any material reality whereas later in his life malcolm x actually did believe in you know meaningfully changing the circumstances within the united states african americans that's far more dangerous

that's why fred hampton

was dangerous

because fred hampton

was based a shit anyone who listens to fred hampton and doesn't want

a racial equality and socialism in the u s gets fucking danger alarms going off in their head if fred hampton was just another lunatic who was like oh we should all just move back to africa he would have been a

what it

louis farakhan does not advocate for going back to africa you dnum ass

this is why i say i don't fets this is why like i don't talk about fred hampton because

if someone like this is fetasizing fred hampton

and guys fredhampton was very young so stop fetasizing that dude you know

it's really cringe

yeah he was a great leader and but he's not your leader he was a leader of the black community he's not your history you know

but

fred hampton was a marxist leninist

to the bonn

also

hold on hold on i actually do want to talk about this for a second

so i'm one of the people who have actually read

the black panthers

i've read them

and i've also listened to their music i've listened to the one of their albums they put out

so i'm a guy who knows something about the black panthers right i actually know like

where they were coming from what they were about i've read them

right

isn't that crazy i'm not just like a guy on twitter who talks about them like i've actually read their books and their writings

to the from the source right

anyway

uh

hold on

anyway

you got to understand

the black panthers have been completely forgotten today

what they were about and what they were there coming from has nothing to do with any of the people who feticize them today

i dont know why

because one of the most important

cultural aspects of the black panthers

like their mission their aesthetic

what they were about

their idea i've read it directly from hughie newton not just him

but several others

i read it from

eldridg cleaver i read it from you know

look i keep forgetting names

it was the other guy who wrote

i' read it from

blood

george jackson yeah george jackson bobby seal

why mator was he in the panthers i don't know

his name was stokelely carmichael right

i've rid these people

um

i've also read angela davis' reflections on the panthers and i don't trust angela davis by the way i really do it's not my business to i guess but

i really don't trust her

but

because i'll tell you why elaine brown yet

i hear she sang a song

i'll tell you what the song was too that i i've listened to before

um

a very yeah i don't trust angela davis she's studying under markusa and she's she said some i'll tell you what she said

in a second

the panthers

believes

that

why because from the days of slavery

um

black people were deprived of manhood

of masculinity

so

where'd the black panthers were coming from

was

returning to masculinity

it was about manhood

it was this like a pivotal thing for the panthers

it was manliness manhood it was very very important

right

like you can do all the psychle anysis stuff too which just makes sense of it but you don't need psycho analysis because the thing is is that they said it it's like they directly wrote about it and said this they talked about it

they talked about how

you know im

the black community was being ruled by the white man

right in that

they need to be men

it's something that has been completely erased they were very like hyper maasculine

in orientation

now does that mean that they were anti women no

matter of fact

who was it is was it george jackson who wrote

george jackson wrote about

aw they opposed the cultural nationalists because the cultural nationalists

we're treating women like

lesser right they were the cultur nationalists

he said would have women

walk

behind the men and guess

and george jackson called them the f word the f sler

and they use this word very often to describe

people they considered effeminate men

both men and women within the black panther party use the f slur

to do to do that i would never use that i'm against that i'm not even kidding i'm against it but they used it very often you see it in their writings right

they were not afraid to use that word they used it a lot

women were very empowered but this is the thing is that a lot of people don't understand paradoxically

the more masculine a group is going to be

the more

status women are going to have

the more effeminate

the less status women will have right

that's how it is in societies too it's sparta versus athens right

but

a

the panthers

like black masculinity and manhood was like

one of the most foundational foundational integral

parts of their psychology and their modus up like their

their aesthetic their reason for existing and so on right

i mean it's all tied like even the black panthers the started out as a community for self defense they weld rifles

re them this

it's very much like a

marchall thing right

sixty percent

women by membership at its site

k i need you guys to understand what i'm saying the black panthers were very much about masculinity

i'm not saying this

at the expense of women

i'm saying it at the expense of

soy males like vosh

that's what i mean

they would not tolerate you if you were a soy male if you were dude in the black panthers they were going to tell you to fuck a man up

the women were going to tell you the same shit to

women wanted you to be a man

they would they women pressure people to be men probably most of all

i've if you listen to what elaine brown has said

if you hold on we got a

if you listen to their songs and one of their songs is liter like

what is the song it was by elaine brown i've listened to the album before it was like

it's literally the lyrics are literally like

i need a real man some shit like that i don't know

but it was it was a huge part of the black panthers

that aspect of them has curiously

completely been erased

as a matter of fact

in a documentary angela davis she was saying

well one of the things i did not like about the black panthers

was that they were very masculine they were very all about

masculinity and i don't like that

now keep in mind why does david say that

when

women were very empowered within the black panthers they were very they had they were very powerful in it they were very like

they had a high status

equal status more or less right

within the realm of possibility

i mean obviously people are different but

you know what i mean

um

it's really surprising no one's ever pointed this out

and if you go and read black panther i'll compile some readings if you guys want

it's crazy when you go and read them and look at the contrast of the people on twitter

and ww should talk about them

i mean

yeah

when you see it a lot of academia is that for black studies you need to be apologetic and pessimistic in order to get a position or voice

yeah it's really weird who benefits from

ah downplaying masculinity

i don't know who benefits from that

um

just curious

but anyway

you know these people call me like a hyper masculine chauvinist or whatever

but i'm nothing compared to what the panthers were saying

the panthers were saying about that is like

today they really they emphasized it a lot

you

a lot

are you progressing on your book i haven't

i haven't for like a month

you know

assassinated because he would have been a threat he would have been meaningless he would have been another radical

it's the reason louise farrakhan is of no one's interest a the moment he can't affect anything he's a lunatic nobody cares he'll ever do anything

but bred hanthy

oky

you would never do anything interesting

powerful

that's why they killedhim

interesting farrakhan can't do anything except maintain one of the largest independent black organizations that exist in the u s

also the nation of islam guys were crazy that was also

yeah

that's vos's casual racism he's just goning to call him crazy

primarily because

you know i did have issues of religion growing up but i comt to completely neglect the significance of a liesa muhammad and

you know he is going to call crazy go ahead

a perspective where i have great respect and rever but i said this is a guy who knows what's best for the black community here is

for all the world's major religions also i have and i acquired actually as a communs f appreciation for chrisianity and

in particular right because of how closely inwined communs m story has been

with christianity

me everyth w

burkeley is in her twentyldest canity in the west

that's not true

just

i think it's important that

we not

that's not true fascism is not fascism is not entwined with christianity

was fulini's fascism was pagan

the nazis were also pagan so i don't know the fuck you're talking about

caughtup in the identities where you can just tell

where you can' just tell people the truth

for for example for the haue i call myself i call

i call black out call winn out i call

but the blackper is a light out and they can call in and disagree with me

i called both the rhinos and the democrats out

the mainstream media

but i think that we should be have the free us like have was such a putsy for not soying out and screaming at hak for being

so

vulgar

it's like what do you want me to say

let him say what he wants i don't give a fuck

what's i got to do with me

he's being vulgar

he hasn't crossed the threshold in terms of what he's saying

he's using politically incorrect language

but what is he actually saying he's saying oh i call people out ok

what's your point you know

so i focus on meat and potatoes i don't just get mad about how people talk

i wouldn't talk like that

but

i'm my own man

ed the freedom of speech to just say our impression especially whites and men

because they're christians

there're some of the most

saland submissive lately

and fearful and intimidate falsely intimidate beause

and look at what has happening how right now

he's charged with murder i feel like i feel like heke is baiting

haz at this point i i wonder so so what is has this response going to be hereh yeah actually actually i do agree white people don't haveenough freedom of speech

what are we

where we going with this one

oh my god he's just like

everything he says he can't help but say it with like this air and must of nervousness by like

he's getting sweaty i'm getting sweaty

hey here he's like he's like he's getting sweaty because i guess what hake is saying is tempting him

i

am not really impressed by what hake is saying

um

i understand

why he's saying it

not because i think it has merit but because

i understand the discourse bubble that hake comes from

like i look i'm looking past it i'm seeing

okay hake is talking about

the media controversy i mean you turn on c n n they're talking about colbrate and house and

he's talking about

white people's

fixation on black lives matter and whatever i'm translating it into what reality is he trying to refer to

what i describe the reality in the same way that hake is no but i'm looking past it

and let's see what he means to say right

yes

it says more about him than it does me i'm my own man i can't control what he says right

all i could do was stand my own ground

over clear case of sef defense

people don't have justice

and we have sd of justice freedom here i definitely agree that

i do believe that americans freedom of speech has been curtailed

specifically especially by the bige companies

there we go the guy n jiggle

back at it again

yeah it has fre americans freedom of speech has been curtailed that's why the presidentt got banned from fuck and twitter

so yes

freedom of speech is getting curtailed

um now why it is and all that kind of stuff

we're going to disagree with hate but we're not going to deny the falcon reality

see the way i think of it is like hak says this shit like all white and christian people are being targeted

and what am i how m i translating ok he must be referring to big tech censorship in general does it have to be specifically white people and christians no

but i'm trying to find the common ground reality that he's referring to

so that he doesn't need to think that

the white christian aspect is what's essential

you know it's fuckin stupid

and regardless of who i agree gree with i do think people should be allowed to give authentic expression to what they really do believe and

what can s my

how is that fucking spineless when it's what i fucking believe

i do believe

that people should be able to say what they actually think

because i prefer them to do that then be like you waso who lie because they're not allowed to

when we can have people

say what they really think

you can arrive at a focking

baseline the possibility of dialogue

when you repressing all that shit

there's no way to falkon work with it

it's called the fetishesst disavowal

look it up

yeah having and you know it's so fucking ironic because

happ you know the

this is the last person who has any fuck and right

to be talking

about who does and doesn't have a spine

because alh's entire political positions

when bolse talks about the lve

he's talking about

the thing he's submitting to with no spine oh this is the lab this is the lab

this is the left orientation

right

you're hiding behind discourse instead of having your own spine

you don't have a falking spine at all matter of fact

your posture the way you look the way you compose yourself

looks jidgly and spineless

but here's the thing you can't first call me a fascist

and then say i have no spine

if i'm a fascist like you're saying then this is what i believe

according to you

you by your own terms

by what

terms by what premises do you accuse me of being a fascist

if i'm just being spineless that means i'm a spineless communist it doesn't mean i'm a fascist

like all you're saying and by the way i'm speaking in terms of your terms on what grounds do you call me a fascist

if i'm being spineless you stupid fat idiot

stupid fat fok i'm going to go pee give me a moment

oh you let's finish this part

let's finish the specific part

whether i agree with it or not how soccer so and being able to come to an point of unity

and usually have

and as i think example this was recently and let's not ge into the details of it because you wt switch so yeah i'm not sure what but

reacon the chape net such so i pave the example of a black muslim man

so

you see how i you see how i did this guys so hak is

was trying to get to a thing about like oh i think white and christian men

are being persecuted

so i was like okay

i definitely see

the reason you're saying that is because of big tech censorship well let me find some common ground here's an example of a black muslim man man

who's getting pushback

right

the opposite of what he said

didn't know chipau is muslim yeah he's a muslim

so

it's actually kind of like really intelligent when you think about it right

people should be praising me for how intelligent this shit is

right and he was trying to just give authentic

you know expression wen believed and he was was was canc that's actually a really telling thing right there isn't

so as you guys probably saw has lost his mind about the trek the dave chapelle stuff on twitter but here's the thing ok

how did i lose my mind

has correctly

i lost my mind the fuck are you talking about you lost your mind about it you dumb ass i just watched it and i lost my mind

and yet you were soying out over it and like being outraged and shit sounds like you lost your mind

in furs

that if he talks about this that hake will go off and talk about you know crazy transs or whatever the thing is though which to west would only hammer down on hake

wait hold on wait a moment

so

even if that were true i was transfobic and i wanted to channel my transfobia

to hake let's just assume that was true it's not true we obviously know that

let's assume it was

wouldn't that make you a spineless fuck and bitch for dancing like a gremlin and taunting me about twitch to o s you're hiding behind censorship which makes you a fat pussy

you're hiding behind to arrest censorship because you're a fat pussy

so wouldn't that make you the bitchier you spineless fock

what that make you fk con spineless you relying on censorship to sustain your position

it's like if you're right about me which you're not

right

but i don't do a fuck what you think anyway if you're right

that i wanted to channel transphobia through hague

because of censorship

the fact that you're gleefully smiling about that acting like you're owning me

you're a fucking dick riding little bitch

you fucking sucking big techs cock you suck the cock of big tech censorship there is a big tech censorship cock

in your focking mouth

you literally foking have the cock of big tax

down your facking throat

down your focking throat

you're calling me a pan a spineless and pandering

when you just have big tag down your fucking

throat

when you're sucking off big teck

maybe that's what it means when you're doing in your little gay or jigle

you're just riding on big tech's cock

you're riding big tex cock

you're bouncing on it you're riding it

you're sucking it

not on

pause

unless haws joined in

there have been plenty of cases

where weere you know a

where a one person has been banned for going you know joker mode on a panel but the other people there haven't

it's just interesting you like the language there was more of like let's not get into it more so that please don't say anything bad about yourself

what

why would i say please don't say anything bad about yourself

wait but what a stupid semantical distinction if i say let's not get into it that obviously implies

neither of us should get into it

right

and by the way you know how fucking stupid vahes is that

if he did say transphobic shit i would have deleted the vod

and censored it

because i didn't know that it was alloved

for my enemy to say that i'm platforming it on my stream

i don't know how that fuccin works right

when hak started talking about slavery

i actually started to censor it

on my stream

and that's the only fucking proof you need to know that vals is lying

yeah i'm going to go pee really quick guys i'll be right back gota go p

i'll be right back

u bak up

fory now he's a able finding is that how it works yeah it's happenedh weh're like one person a especially if're pushing against

if you have

napoleon underscored bonaparte donated three dollars

wasschites sent their best yesterday and it was another incomplete victory by infrared os

reminds me of my victory over the unquote allied powers in the battle of austrilitz

march forward us

as well as you glorious gurillas thank you so much napoleon bonaparte

person on and there's they say something big it you're pushing back hard against it i've never

well which can be really inconsistent

i'll say it's fifty fifty on this

i'll say it's fifty fifty on whether or not it's a it's you know an indication that he would join in on the red record or other

the ways to get his movie published and stuff so it's like

his stuffths i mean so you know it's really a shame that we just create this culture of lyining and people not be honest you scared to speak was on the mind i you know one quick

other point you mentioned black le i have no idea what you're talking about people are totally honest about what they really believe

they're not scared of censorship or pushback at all

people are totally being honest about what they really believe osh

you soll right

what a fucking idiot

i think that

one of the problems with

it's like that other guy who came on yesterday and he's like

oh yeah when i tell my fellow workers about

ah racism and stuff they totally agree with me

and i was like really what's your position in your job was oh i'm the manager

and like yeah do they're totally being honest with you they're totally being honest with you

is that we have the people that we met put ups leaders we should not be doing it

we should be

our own leader

and then we unite together work together

and

somebody if someoys going to be a president like a trump

then that's fine but he is not

he' is not put on a pedtal where he is

influencing our thought any more than any other man

would be even youn hear the truth f me even even archist are a i do agree that we should we shouldn't get caught up in as many you know su as men not w thats i don't speae fro me as i am my experience not seeing that they are different

i'm just you know i agree that we shouldn't be relying on putting our

putting all of our trust to just other men pt being a man is being ow man having own thoughts and being able to think for yourself

so i completely agree with that you know

i think that's been the prop part of the problem with

the black communityes they've had these people that they've propht up as leaders

and they've made them into heroes and you see you see

human nature to do that

especially now that i think

ultimately i believe that black people themselves know what's best

and know how to best diagnose their own problems right i think we need our help were all youings and we all have the freedom of speech and they can

they can hear the truth from other races they need to learn to do that

'tby close youir minds to whit and it's not gove i don't know that'ssly true because theyse all different expiences and the have different situation they have different circumstances

look at all fosh like

grinning and he's like i can't wait to jump on it something that i this saing to red and even though what i'm saying is like

no one could disagree with it there's nothing absolutely nothing wrong with what i'm saying right

but he's just like waiting to fuck and say something

this is what a fucking bad faith fat bitch is

but i finally to much racist int to that because

they don't share those same experiences and same circumstances

but no vosh it's not that there's too much racism

in terms of being honest

having a fucking conversation with someone

i he he like he thinks at some point i have to cancel the guy no vosh

at no point you have to cancel people at no point you have to be like ok

like you know what i mean

unless he says something crazy

right which he duly ended up did saying he ended up saying some crazy shit

specifically because he was not prepared

to talk to a reasonable communist

he was not prepared to talk to a normal communist

so yet to say some crazy shit

he ged what he was foken looking for

right

but no he's like

where's the when are you goin to cancel him has i'm not goin to dude i'm not goin to fuck and cancel him

i'm just going to be

honest have a human conversation

what do you think it's is it too much racism now has

like at no point

was i

tolerating racism i was being consistent this entire fucking time

you know

but they're all nose up against

sorry i' found the tweet that josh sawyer likes

nobody cares

shove your pup funk aes yourvasha guy who was conslting would takes have me going to gys abslutely remarks i'll take to cancel for here is that they try to re show me on this but they could because undefable

marks was a mar on you did get fucking ratio ratio doesn't mean

that there's more retweets than likes it means

among those retweats were

tweets that had more likes

and you which there were

you did get ratioed like more than once i'm pretty sure

so yeah you did get ratioed

ashs the

which seems very relevant to the content looking right

i

josh sawyer no yet to be fair to the fake and els i don't represent the fuck and twitter andmls which is something voss needs to understand

those people hate me

but

they hate you more

is the thing

yeah those people would bitch about me the same way you are for talking a hake or whatever right

yeah he's downstream from the woke m ls the woke m ls are the left wash is not the left anymore

left is hate ash they've moved on

right

so when hos pushes back on a cardcore when he says b s reger of sliy what is waso going to do

we'll see

well see he's so bad faith he might just invent something that like makes it look bad

wre he tries to make it look bad to his audience

oh

josh slaawyer you can't be smart enough to help designll vegas and stupid enough disagree with me on any

distp point

o a joke well the tweet here in order to like it you would kind of have to know who i am because the tweet's not really alongs videob i'm trying to wrap it up now

pons just this it's sort

brodley about me

and follow now instead what will begin a campig of passiveggressive ress

for rok as wino i that's notru i would

a bit this more

is about forty more minutes

this imagineary problem that's all reasionm wheres whitnt have a blank spot and sometimes to take someboey from outide lk in to see through the medic wet listen and alsos a form of what youeop not experiencing biness ras right so the series that it doesn't exist

well that's i think we would definitely have to re ous a real iting is real black the pinary vner

i don't agree but

one thing i can say is that to me as far as i'm concerned the democrats are very racist party and

always

i don't even

i actually think there's little girls

whose laugh is deeper than that

there's little girls who have a deeper laughe than that

yeah he's a guy he's a guyina

he's a guyina

a guy in a yeah

a guy you know

i mean if my whole goal

is to connect

anti establishment populism

specifically anti democrat establishment populism

with

the black

struggle for self determination

and show how there can be common ground between those two things then yeat

you can both recognize that white supremacy is real and that the democrats are the primary source of it

because according to my actual theory

by theoretical foundations

they actually are

according to has's theory which i' have saeid talked about before before i talked to ha

the primary

subjective and agential source of racism

lies in urban liberal elites

not rule conservatives

if i believe that

then

in order to explain to hacke

to be

open minded to black people's critique of white supremacy

i'm going to emphasize that the democrats are

instead of shifting i'm going to shift the blame

from the rural white conservatives

to the democrat liberal

urban

gentrifiers

shit he can suck his own dick

dude what a spineless weasel well i don't necessarily age agree with you that that racism does

but that's actually how you talk

are you going to mock my fuck and voice

i literally sound like fucking conan the barbarian compared to your bitch ass

i literally sound like a falkin

barbarian warrior chieftain compared to you vos you fuck and soyboy nerd little bitch

the fuck are you going to do mocking my voice

does't exist but i will agree that the democrats holy shit

god

hold on let me let me say ok so this is what a tough guy would say in this situation according to oss you

can't sy say your your

why i was just being so i was so i was keeping my cool

and still committing to the principle of good faith

again for his audience so his audience could see

who the aggressor is

because his audience thinks communists are the aggressor

and all the people in america who call themselves communists

confirm that

so i want to be an example of a communist who's not going to confirm their idea that worthy aggressors right i want them to see that he's the one who has to freak out

f it would go after you either way of course you would

it

how does has not know how many holes there are in a pussing when he has one

you guys nust catch that

so if you're going to die on that hill

of the whole thing

at least

don't fuck it up and say something worse than what i said

because

the question wasn't how many holes are in a pussey a pussey would be one of the holes

letter below a woman's wist

right

what do you mean holes in a pussy does voss think women pee out of their pussy

women don't pee out of their pussy wash why do you think that

wait does voss think women pee out of their pussy

usually pussy is what you put your cock inside him

that's what people referre to right

or do people mean by pussy the entire fucking volva

right

who knows

it's not making that very distinction

that landed me into trouble supposedly right i don't think i'm in

i don't i don't know is this what it feels like to be in trouble because

they said it was going to end my career and i'm still waiting for that to happen it hasn't happened

ah interesting

the only thing that's happened is that every political left the

continues to talk about it

that's the only thing that's the only consequence

of that video getting four thousand likeks

wow that's so bad

but

what an own what an o

rule on w

i it do i don't think voss knows how many holes are in a pussy because

what do you mean holes in a pussy right what does that even mean

such a stupid fock if you're going to die on the hill of being a gynaecologist

as the epitome of fuck and manhood

you've got to get it right

i

what he is one jesus as he look at a mirror oll

wheny yar is one

again

let's break this down

i'm a pussy

for having the courage and the patience

to keep my cool while debating hock

to not get ideological to not get dogmatic

and to present myself as a reasonable communist alternative

right

his audience

and wash is a tough guy and totally not a pussy

for covering me for four hours

while to this day refusing to debate me because he's too fucking scared

but i'm the pussy

pretty sure he's trying to character assassinate you to his audience

he knows about building bridges to other ideologies if he's calling you spine thiss year

how does he justify his performances where he neuters his political id ideology

when he's talking to liberals or conservatives

just listen i could just sit with hackbeck no systemic racism is real right but i would exhibit the same vain liberal neuroticism that would not make any breakthroughs to his audience they would see me say that shit and he would be like

hawses of fuckin nark

houses a fucking ark

he sounds like a falconark and he's speaking from the authority

of

the urban liberal coastal elites in the institutions and the democrats in the media should be speaking from their voice voss difference between you and me

you have a cock in your mouth you have the cock of the establishment in your mouth you don't speak as an independent man you speak as the falclon mouthpiece

you are a mouthpiece your mouth belongs to the cock of the establishment it uses and abuses your mouth as it pleases

understand

i am my own man

so i'm not going to speak on behalf of the authority

of the media

and institutions in the establishment

now you're saying well how is acknowledging

because when you put it in the words that you want to put it in

to his audience that's all they're going to hear you think they're going to hear about

arguments pertaining to racism and systemic racism no the meaning i would be conveying to them is this

hey guys amhas

i'm a shill for c n n and all those people and i'm a narch

i'm not someone who's

speaking to you authentically as my own person

right as an independent thinker

that you can trust

or maybe

or maybe consider trusting right

i'm not the manager

i'm not the manager right

bully fuk

are a big supp source of what i would consider real white supremcy i don't think that rule ordinary americans

are the main culpurs of whit supremacy i think's actually the democrats and liberals

which is something i do believe

most effective sources of racism in is white supremacy is happening in america

there you go he's riding the cock guy know jigle

dio jiggle

obviously

i don't know i just think that the funniest thing is that you know what he looks like when he laughs

he looks like daniel radcliffe and harry potter when he's like yelling let me look atlo this up

harry potter

yelling

hees that like

that no he looks like that when he when he laughs let me s let me see if i can find it

this is what he looks like

it looks exactly like that

i want to try to find

it's that same like

missing

it's kind of like this you know

it reminds me of this

so let me see

like this right

now let me let me hear me out like

thro in a pussy when he has one

what he is one jesus as he look at a mirror allly thought

he looks like a harry potter when he's like talking a most i don't know i can't explain it guys see what i'm saying

are a big sup source of what i would consider real whatms i think one of the thing if you have the harry potter look

you know what it is it's a big

noticeable difference between your head and your body it kind of looks like your head is

gravitating over your body

like it's a very womanly look

right

you have like these tiny little ity bitty shoulders

you like

and there's just this discont yeah it's like a bable head discontinuity from your head

from your body and your shoulders

that daniel radcliffe and harry potter has

and i don't know if this is a good example let me try to find it

harry potter laughing

doubting

harry potter is shouting

it seems short

yeah it's like this

i don't know

my reaching

by reaching

am i reaching

what do you all think am i reaching

hold up let me try to find

like this it kind of reminds me of this every time he laughs it reminds me of this

you'll know what i'm talking about

he's got that bobble head type of thing

where's like

his head is like

you don't got you know he don't got he don't got traps maybe that's it he don't got traps

you don't got the traps

you know i mean

you don't got the traps that supports his neck and his head

so he looks like a fucking boble head

you know

when he talks

rule ordinary americans

are the main culturts of wit supremacy i think's actually democrats and liberals

who are the most effective sources of racism and whit supremacy is happening in america

obviously i

i don't know there you go there was it there when he did that when he did that i got to roll that back hold on

hold on i gotta rule ot bt

critical we lost it alough

show you

are the main culpurts of whe supremacy i think

actually a democrat

yeah he has a tiny neck with no tissue it's the neck

the net

yeah it's the intak

despite being a fat ass

it makes his all physique comboding very sol

despite being fat he he still has no neck

he still has a tiny neck

oh god

yeah that's it that's it that's actually it

it's the next

bress and the liberals

who are the most effective sources of racism in w g look int the right top right corner look

he here

blook

top right corner is is happening in america

obviously

then right there right there i just when he did that when he he

you get you see what i'm saying

right there

exactly the harry potter moment that's exactly it

you saw it

there you go

there you go

the funniest thing is that as hard as as has is trying to the funniest thing

suckcakes dick it's not working

pige is actually so stupid

it's not working that i'm trying to

i'm trying to fucking

he's saying i'm trying to suck up the hate

when in reality

i am

trying to uh

give his audience a different perspective on what a communist looks like

i don't give a fuck about hate

i know hake is resisting

my fucking optical warfare i know he's resisting my optics warfare

you don't get that

i know he's resisting it

he's resisting it because

people like me would run him out of business

he wouldn't have any reason to focking you know

exist anymore he doesn't want unity

between people he wants to continue polarizing so he's going to try as much as he can

i don't expect hake to agree with me

hate his forok

this he's like

shit

how am i going to keep my stupid stick of constantly fucking dividing people up

if

i give any ground to has

so ideologically single minded that he's just continuing to run down this road he ignored everything about the democrats that he that ha was desperately using to appease the nazs

to appease the nazis or

the show hates audience

that there's an alternative

to hate himself

on this question

again why does vosch think it's about hate

that's what i don't folkn understand

see and ran right to oh so you think racism exists at all

like like it's worthless like he's compromising so much integrity trying to do thisll i guess he didn't really have any

well the what am i compromising you you called me a fascist and a nazi

and you said i supported hitler

so how am i compromising anything according to your own logic

stupid fat folk

but's still

m

and it's for nothing it's absolutely for nothing it's completely meaningless

god

i just think ordinary americans and rural americans were white actually have more in common

with black people in terms of you know being down to earth people u being the stiff

you know liberals who do opinimize what we consider white supremacy that's right

weight but it's true

for example the stiff urban liberals

are exactly the people who call the police on black people they're exactly the people who are uncomfortable with black people

and have a problem with black you know black culture and they're scared of black people

if you don't know that you haven't talked to any black people

but

but most black people are democrats by a huge majority

no they're not

let's look at this

black political

affiliation

most black people are not members of the democratic party

thank

percentage of black

voters in the us

black voter turnout

one

black

m

a

black voter turno

yeah both parties have a low to mid twenty percent support

so fifty eight point four percent of non white voters

uh let's see

black

so

sixty two point six percent of black

americans

voted

how many of them

vote a democrat

all of them know

i'm willing to bet

that enough black people voted for trump

to make this claim that the are most black people are democrats unsustainable

right

because if sixty percent of black people voted

and only let's say it's even ninety percent of that sixty percent voted for a

thirty six percent of black men voted trump

ok then it's over dude

it's over

the highest black male republican vote in like fifty years yeah

so of the ones that

of the percentage of black people who voted most voted democrat but that doesn't mean most black people

are democrats because only sixty percent of black people voted in the first place

that means

a minority

of black people or democrats overall

it's like that simple

you can't get around this you can't say oh dude

you know we just need to listen to black people and stop listening to democrats and liberals

we do need to listen to black people

that's what i've consistently said

but guess what

there's not just one voice of black people there's voices of black people

m

aren't democrats and want to have black leadership and independence from the democrats

and those are the people you can find common ground with

but you still have to listen to them

obviously you're going to find common grounds with the people that agree with you

yes

but it still has to be them

eighty five percent of sixty is fifty one ok big deal fifty one

your most is fifty one and we don't even know if that's really accurate

if it's that low you can't really say

most you can say half

i'm sorry there's a lot of overlap in those categories it's not a perfect overlap but it's a pretty significant one

most black people are dissatisfied with the demograps

believe it or not

most black people are dissatisfied with black

democrat leadership

so the reasons for them voting it doesn't matter right

know at least fifty one percent of all black people are very reliable democrats

how

well

eighty five percent of sixty

is a solid fifty one percent

it could be less than that

because the statistics are never exact

so it's half

that voted democrat

by the way that doesn't mean they're democrats it just means they voted for biden in twenty twenty so you could maybe say

fifty percent of black people voted for biden

that doesn't mean they're pro democrats

it just means

they thought trum was a racist

because the media

and they wanted to vote for by or or

they' they were

positioned against trump doesn't mean they were forbiden

prob a united force

for people with any decency

well and in many ways you could say that liberals were even more far more likehit supremacystm tru because

you

it's so grotesque

it's so fucking grotesque

yet black people are only formally democrats in content the are conservatives who detest the establishment

that's very true

but this is the most disgusting thing i've ever seen in my life this laughed

pes

hos fondle the balls

to do the twisty motion why is he acting like this isn't something i believe and i've said before

guys you want to get the clips of me saying this before because i've actually said this multiple times before

you know what

hold on

it's even better

it's even better

that then i've said it before

in twenty nineteen

and in twenty twenty

i wrote about it

i actually wrote about it

i might just go full troll cycle mode and just leak my fucking blog and just show you guys right now

i'm pulling it up right now

i wrote about it

let me see let me see the exact date

no this was november twenty eightheen

in november twenty eighteen i wrote about it

i wrote about it

i talked about how the democratic party has become the party of white supremacy it has become a party of the white suburban

the white suburbanites

i talked about

how the white gentrifiers

in the urban cities are the epitome of white supremacy i actually wrote about it it's in writing

and the the blog is public i s i'm

very tempted to just leak it i i don't know i'm i got to

cool it down a little bit because i don't want to fuck and leak it but

yeah i can't sleek it

but

and i also can't read it to you because you'll just word s bulet

so

but i actually wrote about it

hold on

no wait this isn't even the one

this is the one

and that even in that one i wrote about it but this is the one where i went really in depth about it

let me see right here

i called

the new i called the new found base

of the democrats

i call them urban coolawks

and i said they're pilgrims

i called them pilgrim parasites

i said the d sa

he's an antagonist

the black urban population

because they represent

the white gentrifires

ilch did an in depth class analysis about this

and then i have another one

that i wrote

and i have to ask asra i actually might leak this one

i'll ask zra where it is hold on let me actually see

let me actually see

um

let me see if he wants to leak the blog

he had a blog too

and i wrote it on his

his his his

his block

and it was about

ados and bernie sanders

yeah here it is

there it is

ok

this is something i wrote about

let me actually ask

its if it's oka

if it's ok hold on

let me ask him because it's not his

is blog

so

let me ask you if it's ok this is something i wrote for it

this and it was actually really popular when we shared it on twitter

like or a gain organic popularity like among black activists and others

it is from twenty nineteen

early twenty nineteen

let me see what he says

so os just saying i'm just sucking his cock and this isn't what i actually believe

i'm lially going to show you evidence

that this was my position

two years ago

no three years ago

as early as three years ago right

i'll show it to you right now

i think i've at this multiple

writings that i've done about this by the way

so i've written multiple things about it literally does authentically represent what i believe

i'm just waiting for him to respond

' wait for him to respond

i'll just put it away

m

wow

i want you guys to see this

o i don't

i'm just waiting for him to respond

a minute

it shouldn't be a problem

okay i'll ot this way

your hats more spit please holy shit

well actually no i know i' look at this disgusting projection

and why does vosch act like i was stuttering was i stuttering in that debate

really do think trump was the best president in american history i it's just you know compared to the liberals at least compared to obama i mean

but is that what i said

what did i actually say

why did circa quit he didn't quit i don't think he quit do i think he's just taking a break maybe

he was more this is a public ss probably caught up in some shit or maybe i don't know who knows what he's doing

whereas they are more exssessed with purity and political greatness and many of rob was more as of now worse still

we're still on track to go to l a

he's out earth regardless the b yes he was billionaire real estate mogul who was born with a silver spoon in his mouth

yet and somehow he was more down to earth and more relatable to america's working people

you want to deny that vosh

you want to deny that america's working people found trump way more relatable

ight

they found trump more relatable yes trump the billionaire more relatable

then

a

ivy league let's say grad student making thirty five k year

now why who knows

ok esmer said it's ok i'm going to i'm going to read it out to you guys

as we said it's ok

so

he just responded

so the title of this that i wrote that i wrote it for ezra's blog

and

we wanted we wrote this for twitter we wanted to like

reach out to the ados community about this right to the burnie people cause

this so keep in mind

this was

february twenty eighth

twenty nineteen

ok

and this was the earth this bernie's thing didn't even take off and we were like

if we want bernie to win we want to make him antis you know we're

we were coming from that perspective so i wrote

i'm going to read it out to you

many in the ados community are up in arms what they perceive to be sandra's reluctance and fully supporting reparations

and cener supposed proclivity to pender to the alt rights vote

sanders for example

he said that not everyone who voted for trump is a racist or a sexist and continually emphasized

winning the white working class

despite that many voted tromp

understandably

this is angered and disappointed many tomatoes communities since the words appear to come at their expense

why paner to the white vote

why speak of white communities left behind

when conditions faced by black americans are worse

this line of reasoning is mistaken

sanders is not talking about the white working class as opposed to black americans

he is talking about the rural white working class

as opposed to the coastal suburban and business elite

he is not talking about the poor the the white poor as opposed to the black poor

he's talking about the poor whites as opposed to the hypocritical white liberal gentrifriers suburban whites and wall street etc

ok

he is talking about the difference between rural white america and metropolitan white america

for sanders the issue is eternal to white america itself

and does not come at the expense of the goals of ados

as for the old right

and the racism inherent to white america as a whole

let us ask the question of where this altright ideology originates which is

which segments of white america ultimately benefit

the alright originates not from the rule white working class but from suburban white use and from silicon valley

as the racist

as racist as the white working class may be

it was

primarily opposition to the establishment to coddled white metropolitan liberals

the same people who gentifry black communities

that ultimately led them to vote for trump

and not the ultright ideology of white boys living in their mom's base

it is true that the white working classs racist has historically benefited from institutional racism and continues to

but this benefit does not last forever it is always proves to be temporary

whether it be racist southern democrats of the early one thousand nine hundred or trump today

once the racest white leaders gain power it always turned against the white working class swindled by them

this is now especially the case today

when the white working class voted for trump they did so following the lead of the upper segments of the white middle class and white business owners

then with trump's tax breaks for the rich and his continued attacks on federal programs once benefiting them

this same white elite benefited from the white working class

soon became aware and increasingly aware that they were eated

keep in mind guys this was twenty onine thousand in february so at this time

we thought berney still had a fighting chance

which is why we were going against trump

whit this right

because we believe that there was like a working class

discontent with trump that tump's base was discontented with him and that there's bernie has a chance to win these people obviously

now we know

that the rot of the democratic party was much much much deeper than we anticipated at this time

but the main thing is that theoretically

my identification

with

well let's just continue reading it and you'll see

now what does this mean for atos

there are major obstacles to achieving reparations for american descendants of slavery

the first and foremost obstacle is not the white working class

it is the hypocritical white liberals who run the democratic establishment

there you go

so what i told hak was the same thing as what i wrote here

now i made more of an emphasis to acknowledge cause i was addressing

that

black people

but yes i acknowledge your experience that there's racism to the core we acknowledge that now there's no use

in telling hak this because what's the point right

there's no use it may be true but what you what good is it pointing it out what's the practical consequence of doing that right

what would i be trying to say that what he should feel bad for it or something no

that that would not be a meaningful confrontation with hake's racism

or the racism of his viewers obviously yes

white people

are racists

we're all racist in this country everyone's racist right

but

that's not because we're bad people

it's

again it's a structural thing we all have racist prejudices

within us

you don't believe me we do

we fucking do

the question is how do you address that racism

and unlike the liberals i don't think you address that racism

by repenting and feeling guilty i think we need to have

mutual respect

and mutual boundaries

of understanding that

you know

a

we have different backgrounds

that's what i believe i've said this before

everyone's racist everyone's got racial prejudices

everybody

i

totally i didn't so you could see like the tone is different

what

in substance i am saying the same thing that i told hay

three years ago

three years ago

a little less than three years ago

you understand now

now let me ask you this question where was vosh three years ago

might i ask you

where was bos three years ago

was he anywhere near the level of consistency that i that i was at

wonder

yeah probably in fortune

luck and loser

let's continue

um

looking at the data from the midterm elections of twenty eighteen

the democrats increasingly gained support from the white suburbs

the democrats now represent both the gentrifier city whites

as well as the upper middle class suburban whites

the rural white working class that supported trump

did not show up either for the democrats or the republicans in large numbers

oh now that's changed

that changed in twoentusyd and twenty

thouse are the democrats

it's going to change in twenty twenty two

because of the democrats they have pushed

these people

who in the twenty eighteen mid terms were not very enthusiastic about voting

they thk it's super polarized now so yes now they're very fanatically

pro trump

twenty eighteen that was not the case it was way more ambiguous back then and berney did have a chance he did have a chance he had a fighting chance

now with biden and covit and all this shit foo it's bad you know

for them

they mostly stayed home because they didn't like the democratic establishment

and many also feel betrayed by trump's actions

if the same thing happens during the democratic primaries

the genter fire in suburban whites will absolutely dominate

in determining which democratic candidate will get picked

and this will make the goals of atos impossible

the white liberals and suburban whites have the most to lose from reparations

mean three years later biden's president

we are

the reparations is a pipe dream right now no one's even talking about reparationss a fucking pipe dream

right

they stand

to lose the most from the empowerment of black communities because it would turn the tides against white gentrification

and would funnel money resource and possibly even land

away from the new class of what suburban whites the white working class may be racist

but they're not gentrifying black communities and they live in old crumbling communities unlike the new suburban whites

bernie sanders ability to win over the rule

white working class offers the only platform for real reparations

unlike the liars warren harris and others who will make empty promises and fail to deliver as soon as they are in office

what up where you

here we are

kind of

here we are

harris is the vice president of this country she's made absolutely no effort for reparations it's not happening it's not going to happen there's no way it'll happen

ados does not have to put its full trust in bernie sanders or the white working class but with sanders

realizing ato's goals is possible

with a white liberal elite it isn't

if ados entered into a strategic alliance with sanders who can win over segments of the rural whites

while at the same time maintaining its independence and always holding

the alliance accountable

then reparations can be this is keep in mind i'm being very like generous in good faith here

because

i thought these rad libs were like

real leaders of the black community and they're not

i know that now right

but i was like pandering to the fuckin

rad lib shit like yeah i keep holding them accountable and whatever like

i don't know

you know now my perspectives changed and i don't think i would say the same thing in the same way

but in substance my position is the same right

then reparations can be part of a real national platform and not an empty promise

that is because the common enemy of both atos and other groups including many rural whites

is the coastal white establishment elite wall street silicon valley and big industry

with rural whites the possibility of plain faced respectfubl dialogue is possible

and racism can be dealt with openly

it can be brought to face its community as equals and respected partners in a struggle against a common foe

it will require hard work and patience on bernie sanders side and struggling with many segments of rural wide america but it can happen

it is sanders side's responsibility to fight against

white working class racism ignorance

instead of attacking berni atos conformulate james coulian directly organized to establish black littal independence

and pushes agenda to the top of sanders movement is the sole condition of winning over the black vote

both the black vote in the rule white working class are necessary for senators win

suburban and gentrifying metropolitans in america

a a the leftist

will never in a thousand years support bernie sanders or ados

the professional class will never support bernie sanders or ados

only a strategic alliance between black america and rural working class

can ensure the victory of the struggle for reparations rural rights do not stand to lose anything from reparations but have

like the majority of all other americans everything to gain from medicare for all

infrastructural overhaul new federal jobs programs a living wage and free college for their children

reparations and black empowerment will never be possible for as long as this rotten establishment which ha is

everything to lose from it

is able to survive another day the best course of action

is anything which can bring it down and open up opportunities not currently possible

there you go

so textual evidence that

this has been my position for years and i was not pandering to hate

as wash alleges

as direct evidence

oh we're being very proletarian here today yeah this is kink at pride holy shit the fuck the complete spinelessness

jeesus fug

i'm he's calling it spinelessness then what does it mean to have a spine because as i've just shown

had its been my position

forever right

for as long as we can

see a writing of me right

writings by me

twenty twenty nineteen it's been my position

it's not spineless at all

especially now

right

m

i also wrote a piece

in twenty and twenty

when i wrote many pieces but i wrote one when bernie sanders lost the nomination i realized the democratic party cannot be salvaged

cannot be safe

ready for has to watch this on a stream he couldn't watch the whole thing right like this is too much for him ight

there's no ways you go with t watch the this is another thing boss got wrong by the way he just can't take

can't keep taking ellls

as if you've watched from the beginning up to this far in i ironically applaud you i

thought you were way too fraschhile

i didn't believe in you ok i should have had more faith in your tenacity because i've never seen somebody try to suckcck this heart ok jesus christ

you said i was trying to suck cock and yet i said

hunt you've both said that i've been trying to suck cock and that i'm like a nousbol red fash so which one is it

is this actually what i believe leading you to the conclusion that i'm a nazi and a fascist

or am i just trying to suck haigs cot

it can't be both you stupid fat fok

plus i just disprove the idea that i'm sucking it

i'm suck i'm sucking up to anyone

because i wrote about this

as early as feb twenty ninetheent

right which confirms

that my views have remained consistent

all the trans g f subs of twitter are in envy of your determination here ok

what

a

yeah

are your parents more conservative or or liberal i don't this guy has like these weird sexual

he's a sexual harasser right he's a serial sexual harasser so

he he's just he has to make everything sexual

boss i don't think anyone

once

let me just

make this more clear i don't think anyone who has the option

wants to have any sexual involvement with you at all whether on twitter or elsewhere

they're really not not yeah

you got it will jump in the q and a this is been an enjoyable one is i want all the questions want to remind you of a couple things one you got a question feel free to ft in the o live chat weill go about thirty minutes and also our guests are link to description

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because all of our deest links in the box forty ps so its well if you find link there was well rights one from lynanion says debate is useless noise that never result anything it's just it's just true it men don't do that but the'll do god bless you lord good here

thank you prettyext up she you boys let's go and says i love youke

nice to you

that you convince me ha it is having got some sort languag is ever trying to find you the say i'm athist so i must be communist

i gotm thats i think forviing me that i'm not

yourk

well

all ethism is not comes we all come is ethist

what i'm actually surprised he was able hold up the government had long enough to provide you know after

i'm actually i'm actually kind of proud actually you know i was

that was like that was like saying it like you know some arithic oloud actual get the right answer then like he actually held a the pieces

this's oning from chris moreox ays there're older maany people in china that identify as religious as there are in the u s about one hundre twenty million why is this ane more than hundred tll maybe mean so many peoplechin

but you know under under hard life i don't know if they are real questions it's hard to know it's are not any real questions are so many as point out so much of so much of the wereion

it's still with only people and i't know maybe the tough times making a person moveing rise in china but for sure

there is a

have what do you know hake is conceding ground to me and he's actually a

proving that i did make headway right

what do you know

i was successful

and something i comes turn and i

i've heard of strouble sessions in a comst worlds where they just

they don't really try to force pe to believe things that a true and you don't believe you go through

i

this one coming in were int don't ask why can if you believe something that's not ideological orthodox the c p

from like a very verified account ok it has a red check mark

you actually think it's just

tweeting that's

people are just getting tweted at are people losing their fucking jobs and shit you stupid fuck

people are being deep platformed and not only being the platformed

is one thing but losing their jobs

and means of livelihood

dumb ask

because it's the c c p and i tweett you so hard

communist openly be on all big tech platforms but an esy i

kids

y i think you se that there's not a lot ofeopleho are informed by commism and the mainstream k a lot of i ca

got this one coming in int don't ask why can communist openly be on all big tech platforms

but andan easy i ask

can't

y because one is bad and on is good

is that actually how he respond to that question why are the why is the far right censored but not the far left and co's

because one is bad and one is not good

but aren't you against the ruling class so why does the ruling class consider you good in the far right bat

well i how would he respond right he wouldn't have a fucking response

he like

what do you mean it's because they're normal because the ruling class isn't bad they're normal people

like fose do you fulking think

a you fking thingk

there's just this tide of

this tide of discourse that's going to be in your favor that

one day

we're going to see

all the big corporations

promoting my ideology of anarchy socialist anarchism they're not gona dodude

why does osh think that like

you know what i mean like you think the corporations are going to be like you know what we are going to give the workers

our wealth

he's so stupid

listen

for for glic vosh

a fascist in a reactionary is like

someone who's outside of the corporate discourse right

and for vos progress means like

the the progress of mcdonald's commercials now the mcdonald's commercials are

o our non binary order i don't know what the folk right

that's progress and if you're like stand if you're like outside of that development

you're a reactionary right

but what fos doesn't understand is that

it's not going in your direction it's not going in the direction of like some kind of like

public ownership of the means of production it's not going in the direction of like the corporations giving it to the workers that's not going to happen

so how it there's not going to be like a time for your revolution where it's like

you know what

now the revolutionary

pro discourse thing to do is for workers to seize the means of production and anyone who's against this is a reactionary

no

that will never come to pass

a reactionary is always going to be someone who's against corporate

america

and the mainstream discourse

and one day vosh one day

very soon probably next year

that will be you matter of fact you stupid fat ass it's already you cause the fuckin left

on twitter already hates you

even shit lib democrats find you annoying destiny falkon hates you

democrats hate you the leftists hate you too wash you're already a reactionary by your own standard

it's not going to be long

right

before you just turn right you just become a right winger outright

use you don't know how to be a communist without suckling the fucking dick

of discourse

you don't know how to be an independent communist like me

so you're just going to become a fuck and fortchune nazi

vodborn donated ten dollars

here' sanddollars in the hopes that we can get transgender non binary representation in burger commercials

howetag burger a her math for that

uh voidburn um

i don't even i don't know if you're allowed to use that word so don't don't use that word

i don't know what that means

i don't know i'm not well versed on the gender language so you said transgender non binary

i don't know ok

and is that a slur i don't know is that a slur that word

is that a slur

why would you fuck and say that

it's an obsolete medical term

i thought it so i know but know where we are you know

i know beni new trans but

it's like

you can't say that

it's it's not allowed to say that

but you're still not allowed to say that

it's an obsolete term the word is intersx now you have to say intersx

and

i don't think all transgender nin non binary people are intersex so

deven

i think you should that there's not a lot of people wh were informed about communism and the mainstream littal establishment

has had to deal with you know there's been very clear you not phenomen's been no kind of right wing alter right when i say there's really been a communist movement

many many decades in country that has go to theight

so i think that much explains the majory the reason why we it right because it's not really that it's plit realt to us be recently becoming a symbol and that's really the only explanation you need

there was a neo nazi phenomenon in the us there there hasn't been a communist phenomenon

are in the uus

that's one

you know the liberal and right

ses right but he li live and by the way

i would call neo nazism in the us

bike

a form of

aesthetic anarchism right

the biggest way to defy the rules is just like

to carve a swastika on your school desk

at school

it's a form of aesthetic anarchism it's the quickest way

to just be like i'm going to just

it's like drawing a ditk

it's just being offensive for its own sake like south park right

because it's offensive right obviously the swastika is offensive

it's offensive to people right because

you know the holocaust and all that

so it's offensive

that's why it gets cracked down on

we'real democratic extremist

i guess the the radical moderate democratic party

in canada you have a big ukrainian community that's trying to push for

anti communist censorship for the same reason and it's been successfully accomplished in many european countries

youond that i think all relate to you know

have you have you caught hate for not

heting what youp know

esus i haven't used of being white supremist i've been used of being a white commist it is not because i sayd a fct comms at patris and it in'jiggle you red eing government does where you read dinojiggle go you know be disgusting

what is this fuck of noise he's making i

he's used to making that noise because

he does it

there' is nothing wrong with it but hohw does do it

he definitely doesn't

definitely knows what he's doing and i think to big tech as well

big time

actual pig yeah he can't even help sounding like a fucking pig because he is one like

when i say vosh is a pig

i don't mean like all he's a

male chauvinist pig i mean like

he may actually anatomically be a physical pig

he actually may be a pig

physically

reason i have't attacked all the whitepre is ironic because i'm not sure if i am considered w i dotin a lot of attention to but from their backgrounds so it's rely weird how he lear trying to race against me when mhite if your white behave i guess

coming christmre lock for youke theyk there four million pers in ina prepares and there are in total about eighteen million so far las chinese people live in the uus

how is peoples republic of t against christ

probly they care about this from christmaock american by way

so quot realy the side of theppressed creature the heart of haartles world and the soul of soulless conditions unquote carl mark

that's nice

it's a tough times

do make you turn to god's times and that's what

howrks olth was blind ges was i got i guess

wow we got hate

to give ground to karl marx

about something

in what universe would a g like

wak

seeede some credit to karl marx the isn't that kind of a w

that he's giving mark some credit

like

think about it in what other context

what a guy like cake

ever ever concede anything to marx never marx is like satan to these people

so we did a really good job i we i did a very good job you know

i'm making these people open minded to it

it's completely demonized

you know

that's a w to me

coming ps underport ofick report s keepeting the truth butther also thank you for having this fe thank you

and take where you pakank you

black lenin s ays question for jake i think i hate ha the say what do you think of a labor aristocracy do you deny what's your thoughts why would you know youoracy

to wet earlier yeah

and

keep in mind hake is super dogmatic hes a jest lee peterson guy

and

it's his career to be polarizing right

but imagine what a normy rit is

would think

you know what i mean

relay republican trump

says

how do you explain how your nameut there and i don'ts more th that aupub about how do you explain the current failure of communism in america being american indian reservation

well actually felt like a chill go dow y body is that when ren' feels like that atually fel worying like medical

yeah this is something nerds

do where it's like they hear something that they don't consider

reasonable or correct

and they're like oh my god this is offensive but it's like because voss is part of the political discourse like imagine me escoteric marxist

do you think i care about any of his dumb fuckin

this scores bullshit

the only difference between me and condbox

is that i'm wagering that this media shit

is leading somewhere

s going to lead somewhere

but we are both in full agreement that like

it's falcking meaningless you know like

why do you why do you like

why do you like why is this part of your hetspace

oh

like voss is like oh my god i have to seriously rationally consider whether the native american system

is a form of communism

the reservation system is a form of communism

when i heard that i was like

ah what do they mean by that or

oh i get what they're trying to say it's like a right wing mem

where they're saying

that

the reservation system is heavily tied to the government so it's communism

and i'm like you know

there's not a lot of education about communism

uh in america so

if they're going to associate communism with like being dependent on the government i get that

i get why they would say that

that's where i'm coming from right

oh ok wem tot give me a second

night we're

okay

we're go to kee we're going to keep tring throgh ok i don't know exactly i referring to but i think filure the congress the united states

i thinks a theoretical issue it it's the probise is that pyp of people intellectuals who attracing to communism do are try to do it because they're anti soocial and

they say we loser his in life and but

which is true

i don't how to relate to the reservation system but it's like look at vosh you think people

you think people w look like

the opposite of us would be attracted to communism in america no you have to be a fucking loser like this

i think i waslaing a figure

the movements i re be to off you i think point out that the american indians they they get

to payout whether it's from the casinout that and dping debilitating to them and so they don't end up doing for themselves and working for themselves taking responsibility i've known to median whoick out of the indian tribe

and i was on the best th what the could that they start working and their s going to have families

well i think i'll say that'm not remiliar with this situation relation system but what i do know about as imporant coms is sovereignts be to have a certb of control and subtermation we're going to

and as far as the resvation is concerned it has no formal on we know that there has been varyus treates violated and the way in which indians are insing americans have been on

have been treated by the u s government has been very unfair

and they have been you know

i

they have not had a good deal so i dot what is one of the drunking drunk in terms i don't know to be go examples more do this fact the native reservation system is completely separate from any state

they have their own autonomy and

only the federal government can go on to the reservation yeah yeah

that makes sense to me it's like

it's totally beholden to the federal government

like there's a direct reliance to it so it's like a federal system

um

economic

grants

something like that

temple of communism as much maybe internalized corruption and

you seem to have like

that sham

woman's mindset if you will allow me

if you will allow me yes

yeah

um

why would i

why would i even entertain that he's like if you were ok yeah explain yourself why do i have a woman's mindset

yeah i am going to allow you it's part of that same woman's mindset

if you will allow me ok sure go ahead

i don't care if he says i have a woman's mindset what do i g

have you guys ever seen a hosz this cucks before

like you have a we're geting very lucky with these ky drops

you of a woman's mindset yea yeah like

no that's not what was said vashe

what he said was

that reminds me of a woman's mindset if you will allow me

in other words if you will allow me to explain

and i said ok go ahead explain

please like

see how good of a job you're going to do convincing the audience that i have a woman's mindset it's just self evidently absurd so i'll let him talk

you know

m

have you ever i' never liked

thke

is trying to provoke me here he's trying to provoke me

because it's what he came here to do and it's what

his audience expected him to do

now i didn't give him that so he's just trying to provoke me

i'm not going to fuck and entertain it

why would i entertain it

what do you think i'm scared to vch

like i said

what took more balls

saying what i did to wash in front of like seven thousand people or

keeping myd cool with a guy like hak whos just not particularly popular

add all untowitch

or you to

nver seen him this submissive

like i

that's a really curious way of

defining submissiveness

on ironically think

that heks winning this debate i actually i genue that's not ironic i genuinely do believe that i think in terms of the but no one else thought that i mean we can go on the fucking modern day debate

modern day debate

infrared

it only got

talking nine thousand ees why does everyone keep talking about it

so

ok so just so we're clear let's see who won the debate

hek is what happens when a turnip learns to speak

yeah dylan burns gave me the db because dylan burns comes from a conservative family

boss comes from beverly hills he doesn't think conservatives are human

right

haike likes to claim his political enemies act like females but his voice was shaking when it was time to defend slavery

that dude's slaver became out of nowhere

anyone doubt so

rendy'r minor

when a right winger says communism means neo liberalism holy crab hake is insane

um

is there a pro hague reply

so these are all critical of hate

and

so i don't think anyone thought

hake onan the debate

who watched it

on either side

it sounds like vosch is the only person who thinks hakue was winning the debate

the cohesiveness of the argument presented i genuinely believe

that hatue is winning and that is that is wild beyond belief you know that is insane

why would anyone care about what you think about who wins the bates when's the last time you want to debate

you get focking mopped with by destiny

and keep in my destiny is a guy i call randomly

and just defeat him

i just call it i have like

oney destiny focking

els

that i've taken that i've given him

all ready

i just do it randomly i just just randomly just debate him and beat him

right

you always get marked

by destin you've never want to debate with destin in your life

but

but i guess that's the that's the world we live in

in that you have like his feeling sorry he's different

that's the thing

voh prepares with destiny and loses i

i have never prepared for a single destiny debate

never

never prepared once i've never prepared with a for a single debate with destiny

i've always had it right off the dome

so called the press groups these minorities if you will ass a womanll just try talk about how being forceds current u s government wasn't it w's being forced feminized

again he's got these really weird fantasies

because he's a sexual predator let's be honest

but

i don't know why he's talking about that in regards to me

right because

well he wouldn't he wouldn't even say that in v c to me let alone in person right

but

ya that's just that's almost funny right

it's like here's a thing waso to your credit

no one would ever have to forcibly feminize you

you already have a big old pair of kiddes

hang in

hanging on your chest

and

your body is very femininely shaped you have a pear shaped feminine body

allready

they were very weak shoulders

a very tiny little

womanly neck

so i don't really think anyone

needs to talk about that

in your regard right

week chin

eminine looking round face

it wasn't a good deal for the american people

the policy of our government is abut that's true i actually think the one reason oh might not be balding

its because his testosterone is so low

i want vos to like measure his testosterone

please measure it you have abnormally low rates of test

promise you

re coun beporting riped off't nessarily you know making excuses or blaming just winning out

that he's actually submissive i don't know maybe is he

the native americans are on the haved a good deal right i mean you know

far as the relations to the with govern is concerned and that should be investigated but it's a complex issue

but the one thing i will say is that i don't think's an example communis

and that's something i can be certain of without knowing much else

he doesn't have jaw muscles look at him

he doesn't have a jaw he has a beard you don't have a jaw

this one coming in from ckreo de bunk says

pink have you heard about the caybernetic economy any objection to that and i don't know what

tell us what it is

you know i cannot

cyberneticyberonetic economy they put it a cakehybernetic into cybernetic

ok i don't know

if knows the answers to these questions hes welcome and i think it mean cybernetic but if think's a complex issue

you know the the cybernetic econom that's a complex issue i've read it of economic papers on the

cyberne

type

does boss think i'm not educated about cyber addicts

economic

planning

i literally have like

what is it like for or five different channels of

of of introduction to cybernetics

like one of em

is the obvious one paul cock shot and the big computer gag which is what the guy was referring to that i said is a complex issue cockshots cybernetic planning

right

but then

electron de lose and cybersen yeah i get i gave you a lectron to lose and cyberson

then

so i'm going to just st put cybers in that regard then there's the dels

cybernedicts

through and

the's c cru and nick land right then there's that

then

there's my own interpretation of cybernetics through the lens of look on and looks understanding of the drive

the drive and from desire to drive

right

and then what else then there's bog don ofd the soviet theer inventor of cybernexs was it called

tech

tectonics with the no it's not tectonics what does he call it

technology yeah

technology

um

it's like i'm actually pretty well versed

in understanding cyberneticts

oh and then there's hidegers

ah

writings about cybernetics in the end of humanity right so there's just like a lot of

significance of cybernetics in my

in my canon of thought

hybernetic comommy that's nonsense

the cybernetic economy however

what you how fucking illiterate

and not educated do you have to be

did not know about

cybernettic

economies

wh

yes

oh i forgot vosh's a dumb fuck who's

sole political and theoretical

spear of inquiry is

that's dgg s community

i can't with these guys man i can't do it i can't

he's trying to copy destiny's voice

i should just quit debates forever i'm cle

ea's your possy

really not meant for the space

anymore i agree

i should just stop

isn't right

he did you know that other thing that labor

he said that's like a comunity i was that before

t and long as you do in long time you were going to seuse as how hely the government putting drugs in the street creating the war on drugs snatching father o of the home than acting like white people know how solve our problems when you've created them

i didn't put the drugs in their community i din't take ot of home and honestly the best thing for them if the governmentvolved governmentd bribe them to have a ot of home that's right i know they made p toughever you people doing not is were b my property but the best thing for us

and i think it is addressing the conmist that

falseming logic also minute it responsibility it likes i like me who st of others

had to responsibility for that rather than continue to blame the government is evil and it is against

them not everybody

then they would be doing much better and i think that's that's y concern about wites and my the appeal of this reson com is not

but is appealing to anger which is the lie the youre right to be anging to blame when you better off jt taking responsibiliy

and they can they will have strength to find out right way and youy the wisom to

but

i don't think i think i wre taking responsibilit butre also trying to point out that

you know they want to

he lost out of community to try force things on right

so ofltermation i don't you mean by people be for everbyone foss called me spineless and unwilling to push back on hake and i literally just did like a million times including right now

and vo he doesn't say anything why don't you say anything voss pause the video and fuck and say something you fat fuck say something voh

well i think they i think black people know what's best for themselves right they know

the best answer is to their own

if they did wouldy be voting ninety six ninet ey percent for democrats

a curious rebuttal

yeah obviously you agree with hate

h we know because

we know that

red tube left is zone

and

aches

far right whatever shit two sides of the same coin i've pointed out before we all know you agree with

one i would like to know the answer to as well

i just sounded like the fucking internet history in there

i would also i would like to know the answer there because you sound like a pussy

puse

has

constantly jumped back and forth

between liberal democrats are destroying the country and are the real racists

but also listen to the black people but when you listen to black people they vote democrat

however you may feel about that it seems to be the case that a lot of

ah black people are

liberal democrats

so do we actually want to listen to black people or do we only want to listen to the minority of them that

don't do that

voter turnout is very low i know but win he's going to wasle around that he's going to be like well i ges's not be really councl

he's going to weasele around it by responding to the argument so anything i say boss going to say was weaseling around ready

and

can't speak on it fresh

no that's not what i said you fat fuck you lying fat fuck when you spoke over me

and you used your voice to drown out what i actually said

let's i want to show you guys what a fucking lying bitch this guy is

let me show you

did i say i can't speak on it or did i say

what i say actually want to listen to black people or do we only want to listen to the minority of them that

don't do that

by the way what i said is independent

leader leaders of the black community

if they're beholden to the democrats they're not independent

but let's continue

i know but he's going to weas know that he's going to be like well i gu's not yeah he's going to wash is trying to mute me

so no one can hear what i actually say

he's scared of what i'm seeing

he doesn't want his audience to hear me

then the couns oll black ind

can't speak on it fresh one can

there you go

one last time

j see you can

your vose lie

so do we actually want to listen to black people or do we only want to listen to the minority of them that

don't do that

t very low i know that voter turnout is very low he's going to weasly know that he's going to be like well i gues's not because it really count

i can't speak on behalf of black people because i am not myself black

into the

can't speak on it

no i said i can't speak on behalf of black people because i'm not myself black i can speak on it

but i can't speak on behalf of them

there's a big difference between those

fresh one coming in this one coming amzing anihilation prism saysk we a lot of wenen praised washington seven hundred seventy six

what didn't i wheeze a lot of you stupid fat fuck you wheezed all fucking going on the treadmill day fucking ninety six

you're weaseling out of going to the fuck and jim and putting down the fuck and pringles

that's what you're whizling out of

you gon a fucking weasel your way out of a fucking bag of twikies

without eating the whole thing

and lincoln's anti slavery crusade in the civil war as revolutionary in his letter to the american workers

what is your response to that

it's a red flag i think there's a lot of melodrama about slavery and this pretense that it by the way anyone who ever comes at me say wash is fat himming wash is fat himming

but he's a lot to talk about my height

you can actually exercise in shit right

i'm five nine no matter what i do

so i get the pass i get the pass to talk about what we all see and by the way he's grotesquely fat he's a grotesquely fat folk

they make it sound worse than it really was i think that's worse evil today i think democrats they are much more evil than that than the democrats who own the slaves

and ah seventen seventy sixteen okay okay

yes

ok we know haws doesn't have a spine but is how do i not have a spine because i've been affirming the same position that i have literally in writing from february twentie of nineteen

so how do i not have a spine you stupid lying fluck

is there a single vertebra

is there a single is there even like a bone sliver like is there anything going on in there what huss this is your chance redeem yourself

take the bold step

say that slavery is bad actually

this is nice it's a nice i mean i get that they want to latch on and support the revolution

but i think our revolution

as far as my impression was more righteous and based in god and nature nature is god

right whereas the communists are aists

you got it and that it because he really not going to say anything oh my god is he seriously

he doesn't even have any spinal fluid

imagine being a wash watcher and having like

your emotions and sentiments just throttled around so rapidly it's like vosh

look how much there is left of the video are you sure you want to pausit at this point

and start commenting about how i'm not going to respond to it are you sure that's what you're going to do vos you're going to pause it right there and just say i have no spine because i'm not responding to what he said are you sure vosh are you sure

because you're going to g up to look really stupid

just to be clear about to look really funk and stupid

go

how how does he

why didn't you delete this vob this is fucking embarrassing

this is actually fucking embarrassing

he confidently paused the video here

in said i have no spinal fluid as if

what you

are you sure vosh are you sure this is the fucking

hill you want to die on

are you sure

questions we do want to say not a words what of

first of all

even if i didn't say anything

you can't call anyone a bitch

you are a bitch

you're afraid to debate me

you look like a bitch

you're afraid to debate destiny

not just me but also destiny you are afraid to debate you are a cowardly little bitch you wouldn't even say this shit to me in a v c call because you're scared of confrontation because you're inherently a cowardly fox

listen cowards have weak shoulders cowards have weak necks for a reason

he's a weak little falking plussy little pitch

that's what he falking is

you let hak say you have a woman mindset

did i listen if i said

if i allowed hake to say i have a woman mindset

i will give you ten thousand dollars right now you lying fat fuck you fat as bitch

you didn't deny the allegation that you are a bitch

you're a fat ass you're a vosh watcher which means you probably look like him which means you're probably a fat fuck

you fat bitch

and hate didn' it i didn't say yeah to hate saying ot a woman mindset i said yeah to go ahead and try to explain yourself

and look more stupid than you already do and know what's missing in this crucial context that you're not going to find in this fuck and video

my chat

my chat was going so hard against hake

this entire time

then it's like i almost felt bad for him

the whole time

especially at this part

that's what you don't see

in this debate is my chat

both in the youtube thing and here so i'm like

look the chat's already roasting the shit out of this guy i'm going to cut him some slack you know what i mean

mador to the liight le of channel you can find their links but i think i think i think just

most americans

look he's soying out osh you just called me a bitch and said i have no spinal fluid

so

is anyone going to hold you accountable for this fuccin eluse i am you stupid bench you come to conclusions without knowing what does that say about your other beliefs you've said other things you've done this before you reach conclusions without knowing you say things

a minute later you're proven wrong

yeah open wide for the cock to come in your fucking mouth becuse you need more of that pacifying big tag cock in your fucking mouth

to save you from this falcon el

you disgusting fat fock

understand that slavery is probably thea

biggest historical evil in this countr i think

w i mean look you can say i mean you surely understand slavery is a right

i don't know i don't know why it was there were decent and indecent slave owners it's not it's not ideal it's not

wait

so

you're saying that what you just said was wrong wash

is that what you're saying

but it's not go and s's actually sowing out haven't you actually seen the soy meeam and felt ashamed

because they're talking about you by the way

have actual like mess killings

of i think i think on this point that's just the red line that i don't think

i could ever come to a he going to agree to disagree ont way beyond the realm of

why would i want to debate about whether slavery is bad or not what a stupid waste of time obviously we're not going to come to any mutual understanding

if you're gon to say some dumbshit like that

conceivability for just normal even just normal americans like isn't it like

slavery is its evil was so unpresent in history of humanity

that's

likees yes absolute thing is

i actually said something that voss would not agree with

i said that

slavery

in the united states

in the nineteenth century

was an unprecedented historical evil like it's worse than every prior form of slavery and voss would not agree with that he'd be like now they were all the same

like you know how voses all imperialism is the same

and i saiy no modern imperialism is specifically unique

you want to know where i

who proves this is

read this man

his name is

domenico

lo seor do

laserto

but sur thoh i don't know how to pronounce it

he proves how liberalism

you think there's like some kind of progress it was barbarous and horrible and then liberalism is more enlightened no liberalism brings an unprecedented barbarism

he proves it

read him

liberalism a counter history read it

he was a big influence on me by the way

liberalism a counter history

read it

there's a lot of things you

if you thin a lot of you might have boshs mentality on this and it's not true

he has a lot house has a line that we actually found a thing

that hause won't just yes and

this it

why wouldn't i do that to hold on

what is so inconsistent

so because i'm able to look past his politically incorrect language and get to the meat and potatoes what we're talking about that means i'm willing to concede anything hock says that's not fucking true if you say some crazy shit

i will call it out it's fucking

it's disrespectful

finally we finally found it it was it was going to be this or holocaust andnile maybe maybe on the holocaust andialle

thing is is that there's no chance in hell that

hake is a holocaust andni

vosh is bad at diagnosing people's ideological views so he's a fucking idiot there's no way hake is a fucking holocaust in ore that's not where he's coming from

that's not his camp

that's not like his background

stupid fulk

what a fuck an idiot

he's literally just stupid he's just a stupid focx

i

but let's go let's find out how far is it go look a fat walrus the stupid fucking walrus lobbing around

but that sayings because at least walruses have like an aer of majesty about them right this is just a job of the ut looking mother fucker

the job of the fuck and oh

yeah that is i mean it was a reality of all of history

no d lavery that existed

in the united states was qualitative diffent than historic of slaver because which we it was a modern form of slaveryhich slave owners

were able to do whatever they wanted to there was no like you know we made aver in the past slavery merely referred to relgational power the just wan it was right in wot of lavery actually pwer it was and he wasin later casted and i look that's that's just coming left fiel right's just let field

talk about and they're to trying to downplay the runds of aers so we fight civil work to eliminatet evil from the face this cot you do on millions millions gd nt work and you just deryink mentally and try downplay these wor legal slavery that is going to happen the south the people south is more christ mo like to blak meany than anybody elsegards of the south today we did fight civil war to wmin slavery and to get is what legal slavery is one reason y do against the very basis of this country

ll honestly they were not treasonous when they fught against the north they had we can not look if i if i would have flipped the table and done a full cans cooke on hay

it would have been very satisfying right

but it's beating a falck and dead horse

i'm trying to get

fast the discursive barrier

between conservatives and communists

so this actually was a master class in being able to retain

composure

and push back against some what someone is saying

while not losing your shit

watch and learn guys when you talk to conservatives in real life

don't lose your shit

watch my example if they say something

beyond sanity that slaverys was good or something

and it's just a private conversation bg na man that's not true no way right

or here's a thing right

in private i'm going to be honest

i probably would have been like i would have disagreed with him

but i wouldn't have acted offended the reason i acted offended was because he said it publicly

and it's disrespectful against black people

he's publicly disrespecting black people

so that's why i pushed back

and said what you're saying is offensive and you should not be saying this

because you's disrespectful right

if he said this in private and he was a family member i'm using this for you guys as an example

i would have just like

i wouldn't have

been a north

and been like

talked formally i would have been like

nabro slavery was fucked up like it was super fucked up like

they did crazy experiments and all this crazy fucked up shit they were sadistic

got away with whatever they want and she was fucked up you know i mean like i would have been like that right

but

like how i talk to a friend obviously if i'm talking to someone in private it's very different than in public

but as far as pub like voss doesn't get this right because

oss

well i can't say it right

but

there's a big difference between how you act privately and publicly

right publicly you're supposed to be very more formal

and you're address by the way you're addressing everyone right so you have to

you can't let people disrespect

the black people like this

that's a form of public disrespect

right

he's a nazi nazi like full on so'll defend this a lot of other stuff

im

i generalely can't tell how he's not a fucking nazi you don't need to be a nazi

in america to say shit like this i mean we

was the confederacy nazi no it wasn't it was before the nazis right

of his

chosen language is a product of his min ning stupidity and i do i genuinly believe he was to just as and so they're both kind of on the covtively

you know they're not the

im

and i have to say naa say things when i call a person nazi i mean they're nazis un commmon people i think you know they'rey prominent like german parmilitary police forces the've never really left united states america was pro nazi largely until the war started the ideological precepts nazims never meaningfully been destroyed the'veen challenged and mocked in media but destroyed not so much

and hickar is

well i guess he's operating about the intellectual level you expect for this sort of thing but anyway les let's let them take away you know

how was he a nazy

the question is what i do find it's reallyppalling and human to spee what's likeings what you i geess you you'll never beble to come to come understand you actually i he's right country if you try to downplay his stor evil he's not a nazi

he's not nazy at all there's nothing he says that's nazy

he's an american like

reactionary i guess

what do these words even mean anymore i'll just call them a right winger

he's a right winger that says outrageously disrespectful things

and it's like a form of anarchism where he sas he's it's not like

he's saying it

and you're offended

as a as like an accident

he's doing it to offend you

he's doing it to provoke you

he's doing it for that reason

it's not an accident that you' feel offended when he say this

if you're a normal person

he's doing isn't as being an edge lord

and justice i' on the realitment like you know i think in't thk i represent the truss i caink truskingt the extrem historical evil is lab to stups a lot p sor it wt that and insult the black people insisten of this country i think its wly all black should be grateul

to be in this country that' grateful for you whicht nen thing people fundamentally play an instrumental part talking about

why is it funny

i don't ge why it's funny

so the hak says that and voss finds it funny

wy

this is how you know wash is a for chan edge lord himself like he likes the shit

i don't really find it funny i'm like

you know

andti human youhuman n know you know people support w ca bak we're not talk abouthich r we're talking about w're u we fact itll gainst a likek nos you'sing toing iutle with any pretense that you want to see bt divisions and get what want of you youre ss like children you seeing yourself

you think you think you're just speaking you know i can't think anyaling comeddly there tying to downplor evil slavery if you t anger you use that false anger someing one past i don't know why os might be losing the conservtive audience here he needs to tale it do out a little

thing is

no i'm not

i believe

and like i said in his video normal conservatives

uh don't agree with he

they don't

listen this is all

a discourse game

hake wants to know at what point will i be a narch

and yes i will be an arch

for this

you want to know why

because we're in public

and

you have to have a level of

professionalism and formality where you just say

oo

i'm a public political speaker

at a certain point i do need to be maarch

you you understand like i do got to say

youo

i have to say that is

you know

unacceptable

right

maybe i should have gone forulckan's cook or whatever but i didn't want to

i don't want to because it be it'd be it would

it wouldn't

lead to the result i wanted to write i wanted

conservatives can understand being a nark sometimes

is it is ok right

just for the sake of

some minimal sense of decency

some level of just basic formal decency right it's like come on dude you're we're in public you can't say this shit right

in private i'm going to disagree with you

and

be less like

authoritative about

how i disagree with you but in public i'm going to be like an authoritative nark and i'm going to be like

no that is unacceptable you cannot say that i'm going to say that in public dude because it's true

you know

um

he's too small a streamer yeah there's that too

and but

let me explain to you the game of discourse here

it's a discursive struggle

hake wants to isolate the point at which

i

will appear to be

the representative

of the main stream sienan

institutions

mainstream society whatever like he wants to get to this point where he can sustain the polarization see

he's a commy just like a

those se's just like the mainstream media he's just like all those people that

we conservatives have been defying in our anti establishment rebellion he's part of the establishment so he wanted to make me sound like the establishment

and this does kind of make me sound like the establishment

but

i think conservatives can understand that at a certain level

you can't be an anarchist child and just say whatever the fuck you want

there are some things

that are just offensive and you should just not say that

you know

looking back i don't think i should have reacted in this way i think i should have just been like

no that's not true right

i i was more being like a nark

because

i wanted to get out of the conversation i didn't want to debate him anymre it was just

i wanted to get out of there i was not

interested in continuing to debate him right

um

so i just wanted to do so i was basically saying and politely i was being like

shut the fuck up we're not going down this road you're making yourself look bad

stupid right

m

but looking back i should have actually argued with him about it

but i didn't want to because this

this debate lasted two hours already right so s

sp be fuckin sick of talking this guy it's tiring right

but looking back optically it would have actually been better

if i just

they didn't become a nrk and i was just like

yeah that's not true that's not true at all right

and i should have like gone into it like that

i should have just get it got into i sounded like a nark it wasn't good right

it wasn't good

but either way

um

either way you know it's like

it is what it is it

it is what it is you know

por saying unspeakablyle evil things if if somee was advocating in favor it's ong when someone when someone is defending do well what we do well are they doing as part of a broader

hold on hold on we have to actually cover that part because this is actually very relevant

to wash

point that i was make cans here he needs to tone it down a little bit

saying on i actually think another thing too is like bss well how is this pandering to conservatives

but i genuinely think these conservatives would be communists if they were exposed

to that point of view

ably evil things if youone was if someone was at haake is trying to test you right now and be like are you an narch

are you like going to sound like a politically correct authority right now and he w he got that w because i did sound like that in a way right

but i didn't sound like it in an unreasonable way like

you know what i sounded like

i sounded like

like h i sounded like a a school teacher right

and

it's is it bad to sound like a schoolteacher

yeah

but it's more tolerable to sound like what it a schoolteacher would say

then like a college student activist

you know i at least i didn't sound like an s j w

i sounded like a schoolteacher that

in like ok that is offensive and unacceptable and you should not say that

not

in favor of you

it's long what if someone what if someone was defending pedophili what are you do

directly to bosh it's almost like i anticipated bvoss was gonna watch this

yeah

said what if someone was defending pedophiliam

we they do it all on wait they are they doing it as part of a broader hypothetical argument against child exploitation of the economy or are they just doing it for its own

that critically changed

the context

hold on

look itt

the chat

look at these peps in the chat these smog peps in the chat

they're actually proud that voschs defended pedophilia

and i think it's like base

he actually has a community of petals

of the quest

all the time they do all the coick but you wan be w should be angry when people say unspeakably you know you i you th you what is go be is fundamentally thing you're saying no it's not

yes it is yes it is slavery was one of the greatest historic evils because it was the modern form of slavery

it's literally and the devastation of like likesoutek of strong foundation i guess child sexual abuse is funny to bosch and his community

but a family the's something like slabverany slaby had a faily want today

this is the point which ha is gone to so which has gone to a point

where you cannot

make fun of and laugh

um

ad

like

h uh like

all the different sexuality sexual identities right that have flourished in the past few years you can't make fun of those

what

you can make fun of the sexual abuse of children and find that funny and laugh at it

that's the point which hes gone to

right now that that that's allowed to be funny

he fought a civil war you knowit you know somethaying i'm american i know you much americans workm yes b we just

you feel sorry people like that they're not fel youll youll look at his faut it's such ugly disgusting

it' is so gross

what a sick folk what a sick sick folk

if he's ever found guilty of anything

i can't wait

to for society to be safe from this person

and

him to be legally removed

and separated from the broader population

and imprisoned right

this is disgusting to is like

it's it's like sickening there's something so fucking sickening

just about the way he laughs the way he laughs

is disgusted

ally my patriot duty no meing the tradition history of this country to fight and liminit from the face of the earth i recognize historical evil of his countryt probly have you

i it whin how was equal that we say all men and women all men are equal and if some people have change are reduced their tempert to reduce the status of oan imal was i think itsl the wmde in christians

we are

they were nothing nothing christian about institution of slavery it's a miic big form bigan form of roman slavery the confederaatesmong so we slabout it

he's fake laughing

thing is

this is something christians at the time actually said

so vosh is making its what a wildly ridiculous thing to say when it was like a widely held sentiment that abolitionist held

this is not a christian institution

it's

pagan

it's from the romans the pagans right

thing is

here's the thing

confederates like albert pike

the free who was a freemason

actually believe this

so

it all it takes is the minimum of education and something that sounds ridiculous

you realize it's true and then

well

the fact that you found it ridiculous just reflects your ignorance and not anything

about me it's not because i'm a ridiculous person

it's because you have a ridiculous level of ignorance

history so to do christiany there you haved elements of paganism and complete anti christian notever the most perfect christian at the time were fighting to free their fellow man fro the bond like

one thousand percent true

abolitionism

was religiously motivated

does it about anyone want to deny abolitionism was religiously motivated

does anyone think that's not true

because

wow

i mean

how much do you have to not know about his thory to know

that abolitionism was religiously motivated

oh i guess john brown was a editor

right

no redditors at this time were writing rerdded threads about

owning slaves and how

it's not that bad to own slaves these christian people

like that that's that's what they were fucking doing you know they were in the vas sub breded

showing off their slaves and how how benevolent they were to their slaves and shit that's what they were fuckin doing

in the eighteen hundreds

was fundamental military resource

by the way where do you think alh

would be

in the one nineteen hundred eighteen hundreds

keep in mind vosch has fantasies of sexual

assault

forced sexual slavery we already got that one

he's got all these twisted disgusting fantasies in his head

where do you think vosh what kind of person do you think osh would be

in the eighteen hundreds

he was auning iitble

jon brown was anmy terrorist murder you what you call john brown terrorist and murder and meanwhile you know he was seing is ting by any necessary just anger and lies lien murder listen human beings have the right to be angy on just things notatural

yeah no they don't have that might gae with bacs like they absolutely do and you are playing into the tropes of the media that all concerns are race which are not funamentally you can race

i just one ma the racist to try and downplay the sortal evile of slavery and what particularly in slect you know extent that no pble

ho' about a vomit

i'm actually ablout the volmit

this is

bo

god

the fucking noises he's made a so disgusting

it's so farking disgusting

it's so fucking disgusted

might

there's so much i want to say i can't say there's so much i want to say that i can't say but let let me just say like

this is offensive

to human senses

human beings do not want to live in societies with people like this

do sound like this

it is offensive

to our senses

we don't want to

live in the same

villages someone like this let's just say he would not be able to live in the same village they would have expelled him

from the village mini at minimum

yet he has a fan base

but they're giving themselves away because they're all like him

disgusting man the way he jiggles

physically and how he laughs

and you could just see like the inside of his mouth like like it's so visceral there's such a viscerality about this person

that makes them so revolting to human senses

you know

it's like you can see his fat cheeks just flap and flap and flap

while he laughs his just fat is jiggling

it's so visceral

dude i know fat people

that people are very graceful

and they're like gentle giants

and it's like you don't even notice it

right

but with him it's so visceral

why is that

why is he such a vi really fat person

i's calling my show every day me with me ed guys

it

it utterly disgusting like

i can hear his back fat when he talks

you like flipps it's so weird

anti slavery types

really are't communist

then why was it called the union army

and like every time he talks or laughs

his face like pinches in

and he becomes like blood red his face just becomes

blood red

and you can just see the sweat and heat rising to his face

it's like

this is too extreme a human emotion for him to handle

second bate

i su heart if you were to say that slavery was not that bad i do not think oh my god it's she's shae it's an earthquake

this should not be allowed on twitch

why is this to s so women on twitch

can't do a bunch but this is allowed this is really fucking pornographic

it's really explicit

it's not that i need to be back he's quaking

a matter of historical record that it was i fundamental evil just riight into their i feel like as from as what what was in ord to ignore the presentdate evils that we going on right now it you more like a democrat right now you know

i can't i can't fucking cat i fucking cat with this man

this is so fucking good

we're almost done we are almost done like we're literally almost done there's like

talking ten more minutes

five more minutes in our time but this is really hard to finish that's honestly hard to finish

w is she

oh my god it's so pucky funny

ah

i'm weak

i'm weak i'm being i'm being broken right now this is too much this is too fucking much you apologize for slavery

is justundamentallyppalling led omur democrats not worse today thananering laver therefore

listen there's no need to lie about historical re record changing it't even challenge you think i cank have you seen people making a memildonn aboutlavery slaver movi the sixty one thousand projects about lies yeahs you about the livees of theix thty one thousand project you is not denied historical legal slavery which you recogniz that was the intention of y fathers from the outseide w make eviual in the civil war was the manifestation of this ineviable historical misionsor mission i would call it ahole mission

i think it'sjus that just you can't recognizeod you can't probaerly recogniz that's that's ptableship byay

so hold on he's gonna say it's total bullshit by the way let's see

let's see

this is an actual argument we're going to re spond to for the first time sorry the founding some of the founder fathers being like slavery is bad i guess but i know it's pretty good too that's not that's not them undertaking a holy mission to defeat slif ok

first of all i didn't say the founding fathers undertook themselves this holy mission

i said it was a holy mission

that was inscribed into the fabric of the republic from the very beginning

it was a holy mission that was fulfilling something that was there from the very beginning

there's a really big difference between those fuck and two things obviously the founding fathers didn't embark on a holy mission against it

but they laid the foundation

w one

so yes

just because they personally didn't live up to the ideals

that they set the republic to the standard too doesn't mean that standard didn't exist from the very beginning

you fuck in british monarchy disgusting fuck

i i'm sorry i'm not buying

is evil

you're not going you're not buying it beause no one wants to convince you anyway you fuckin parasite

nobody wants to fuck and convince you

to buy into anything

you're not buying it

you're not meant to bide you're not part of this republic voss you're a beverly hills elitist

you will have no part

in the revived american republic of the future

you're going to be the meghan markel supporter when it comes to that point

not and that is going to happen by the way and you

when it does

i'm going to comeon exact

the l from wash

it would real n i understand what's about your argument motion

y it's not simply coming wasit you have said something fundamentally it's we only have like ten more minutes of wash's disgusting absolutely disgusting and grotesque

shaking and quaking

n so there's no need there's no need adress that i just wsult in o group of people by trying to downladorle like they dot the last th need pep with the pretending they was so bad

we're talking aot very normal i don't think american serts agree we're talking about normal baseline i

arle bea youreon you are beyond the re

who are you asked the american conservaive looks back

destroy boh inon debate he's too scared to defuck and debate me hesk's running away from me to his day

them i'm you but stronger and tk carrying

miny comes

and also he has a sleepve with

whatever you get the jobe

yet hake is not a nazi

he's actually not

again once again voses know how to diagnose ideologies

more watch the jus

they want to perce mo ces ho

jk play to be a chrisian we cannot see e oh my god amazing comy bit ok amazing comedy bit ok

the far right is researching in america

trigger the libs the're doing slavery again it's crazy rightps stopp him ok but one far right pro slavery guy gets really mad because he's walking his slave around like on like a big met collar chain

during frid month and people keep think it's time

and he gets really frustrated hijacson sue that's a fucking banger comedy premise right there holy shit that's good to done well that

what

that's comedy

and he was complaining about hold on so dave chappelle can't joke about trans people

but you can joke about

someone

owning a slave and holding a slave on a leash in public

keep in mind you're talking about america's racialized slavery so

we are presuming the slave would be black wrighte

and you're allowed to joke about that but dave chapelle can't

make jokes

which you you complained about dave chapalin called him a fascist

but you can you can joke about that right

that's disgusting

that's disgusting actually i'm not even a politically correct guy and even i'm fucking disgusted by that

that joke it's not a funny joke it's just disgusting

and weird

it's weird and disgusting

it's a really weird and disgusting fucking joke

could be so fucking funny the gt increasingly angry like oh he's also and he also is copying a destiny

and once again he's a destiny copy bought three thousand holy shit holy shit

like the same destiny fuckin catchwords he's a destiny bought

no no no he's my slave and they're like it's like a whole like genre of people who just copy how destiny talks

remember that vo sit i fucking argued with

his chat is eerie laughing it's super fucking eerie

you been together oh my puking god i would be good well is slavery

he just uh shouted oh my fucking god in classic uh destiny

mannerism

he's wow this is fucking unbelievable

psently was not you want to get f to do so i suppose i'm w down i hear a lot of things about about that sof but evil is real and evil is more subtle than people realize

want to you a black and thank you infret so

like says you all readre bssp crashing onus

amason but based on that

hak

how is an economic system that encourages read and be more qristian than wonderfl quality and holpe you follow me

that's what is based on en b based on conbousness iss based on jealousy and anger and a false sense of justice is playing

when you got youthing i want you think i wt ius you's what go in troublet

take out

hakek the bibles nothing a se what steal the man sells him and anone in possession of him sll put itwn

thk i talk abouts like

that even is the respondvery just do't want wheno

this we' going toer says aren't you framing slavery as past evil ignoring all the slavery we still have toay

no i'm my position is really all i'm doing is doing a baseline recognition that slavery was anutmost historical evil that should not be apologized for doutplayed or there should be no reasons this fact should recognize basein fact i likeor that tost re park on the basis of the recogion any like countries that were atateed in apy countries there slavery day i don't think i think you're down playing the world by evil i i't not pk any instance evil slavery what what i just recognizing the qualitatively distinct and distinctly evil inal actually ca actually argue with whatkus and ab hes also by the way

is he's genuinely fucking his chats really disturbing

patrol why do you think you kept say you'ree prety mad why are you woan where you woman was like he's atroll he knows ah wait you're saying he's a troll so that means

if i would have reacted harshly

that means i will have taken the troll's bait

would in' that it was not what that means wash so what's so manly just about taking a troll's bait

doesn't that evince a severe lack of fucking self awareness

wouldn't that mean hake wins and i lose if i took the fucking bait

you fuk an idiot

what he's doing

it's almost like i knew what i was doing

so very stupi those aren't mtually exclusive can be both of those

im

but you know you can actually there's no real point debating people like

except for the spectacle of things but for me this debate is only fun because has is also a lo cow if haz was replaced with a sensible person wellone

listen

in what world does vosh call me a loll coow

first of all

more people have laughed at your stupidity

than mine

because you are genuinely and authentically a stupid person

sure i'm an intentionally funny guy and yeah i'm never unintentionally funny by the way it's always intentional

because i know how to be funny i'm genuinely a funny guy

what

behind that is an extremely knowledgeable and articulate person

no one can deny that by the way right

here we go a hohles guy a hohle's guy

nor no normal person ever brings that up by the way it's only political people who find it fascinating

but anyway

vosh is genuinely a stupid and knowledgeable person if igain

all he would have to do is get in v c with me

and i take him to task about any subject

that i want

marxism communism anything anything history anything

and i would expose

profound gaps in knowledge

for a what thirty year old man profound gaps in knowledge

profound gaps in knowledge

he's an extremely inarticulate

just stupid fucking person

he's gotten by this far because he copies everything about destiny and adds a lefty twist

to it

that's the only fucc and reason

why he's ever ever gotten

as far as he ever has

period

right

like a like a jinggles or you know just like another it's like a real another nerd another nerd who sounds like you're smart but actually are devoid of substance

leaaning to bg person it would be like frustrating boring because they look right like for osh a smart person is like someone who

has their own cock in their mouth and also the cock of the establishment in their mouth

where they're basically doing this kind of like self referential way of like signaling to others that i'm one of you i'm i'm a guy who's in the know about the fact

that i'm completely estranged from my own material being and material reality and everything is mediated by discourse and everything is premised by the conceptual use of reason so we are in the same page here that everything is like it's that that's why the guys

you know why they talk like that in such an effeminate way

i think from psychoanalysis perspective

because

i don't know if i should explain this do i have time to explain this

because

they do not wield

the authority of the master signifier right

they don't arrive

as the basis of their speech

an authentic encounter

with the material basis of speech

they're engaging in a metanumic form of discourse where they're basically relying upon the authority of the other the big other

and they're speaking on behalf of it

that's why they sound so effeminate

di they in stupid people terms

the authority of their speech comes from

another authority

it doesn't come from something within themselves

a man talks like a man

because for every word they say it's coming from their own encounter

with the basis of speech itself

but

effeminate person

is likeh i'm not going to go there i'm just and i'm just a eunuch i'm just a messenger right

and they're getting it from some other authority

that's the difference

explain why x is dom and they would get in jus ret over n

andm

so so for me it's critical to both of them be fucking souit

oh in case you guys care look ho many i rooms' got lok

fre call boss calls me stupid

but

how many times did i expos bosh in the past seventeen hours to me covering him

it's there's no recovery for walsh after this by the way we're going to conclude it

andv is done

i don't want anyone ever to tell me

it was said this was said that

just from this alone i have exposed such a profound level of stupidity on vaousch's part

that

if this were to be public

it would end his focking career

in a heartbeat it would end his fucking career

to im

three miles

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to vex too o

and also i have

one of each them

i'm not the butter for

abou

ber on the american continent seiically like we went through a lot

rom wasv not knowing that

malcolm x was not killed by the nation of islam

to his stunning lack of knowledge about it

philosophy in history is like there's so much shit he fucked up

that we caught

right from this alone

wean up this war helll you

yeah that's why very much ins way when i was i'm wing i was we were they we going actually go to

but i think i just usta this this view was fundamentally incompatible with't it

but that's kind of true

yeah it is kind of incompatible with communism b except that's not what i said what i said is incompatible with common

sense

what i said

he said communism

that's

that's thelestro

there's nothing to do there's nothing about slavery right

yes there certainly is i know what there is no actually do is and it's a matter of s record and i i recognize it may it makes it a place that mak ma long slavery is not gon ideal aner

you pl you making a claim aain they were do it's a matter this worcalact every slaveowder is because every slave

wasn't the two were fundamentallyined to you make you make it be nonense let's go tomy do money w i coming from

steve who said i could wrong becaing but did jke say that las were treated well

they wereing about mey were about theyre i christian so we to read for me was not read the wite

so overall we treat them quite wellpared to many oer cultures

going to ad youne you seems like what he is trying to say is thatue you haven't demonstrated how enslaving people is evil you

i think it's a matter of it's a self evidence

absord it's the reason why it is us sel evident if we have to get to a point where what no philosophy does to mother fok what no philosophy does to mother foker

and what philosophy does to a mother fucker is publicly

debating about whether pedophilia should be acceptable and vosch

assuming the position of the affirmative

that's what a philosophical education does right

but the difference is the crucial difference is and any one is free to call my bluff in this regard i mean some have tried prospective philosophy ram whatever

i am actually

rigorously educated in philosophy

for me to say

that

there are some things we should not talk about

and should not be up for discursive

public discoursive whatever discussion

that's actually a philosophical position itself

yeah he's scared to debab we know he's a pusssy

but

p'v what's the think

that

doing this is philosophy this is not philosophy this is

fuck in public

political propaganda or whatever it's not philosophy

philosophy is a solitary

and fundamentally antisocial

um

sphere of inquiry and development

right it's not something that's like

has all these viewers and has all this

fuck and bullshit that's not philosophy philosophy something you do by yourself

so if you want to think about these things by yourself yet nothing is off the table

when it comes to philosophy

what

the question is does philosophy premisset

o our public discourse it doesn't

actually philosophy

leads us to the conclusion

that it has an inherent limitation

all philosophy teaches us is its own inherent limitation

when it comes to being able to condition the terms of public discourse

this is a very common philosophical position

actually

like hasn't hijak directly said this to jesus like

i don't want to live in a society where we debate about rape

and he said i don't want to live in a society where we debate about

being an nasy

right

jesk has said this directly and he's a like a renowned philosopher so

no this is what philosophical education does to someone

you don't want to get to a point where we have to debate about everything

if we have to debate about everything

you have a very very dangerous situation because

i'll explain it to you actually

so let's say we got to a point where

we were like ok

should we or should we not allow for slavery

just debating that

endaws

discourse with the power

to reintroduce slaver

if we discover through discourse that slavery is ok slavery will happen

but if we say it's not a matter of discourse it doesn't matter what conclusion you come to discursively there's something more fundamental

that we can have a guarantee in

that would make slavery just not thinkable right the reason why we don't find slavery accessible isn't because of some

conceptual use of reason

it' so much more material and intuitive

recognition

that it's like a violation of our humanity

right our common humanity

it dignifies the undignified exactly

i mean a normal people get this but stupid fucks like vos shol defend pedophilia can

ok how much philosophy terminology does has flippantly use i can't even answer this question

you're not going to like not a philosophical question it's not a philosophical question whether slavery was good or bad was never a philosophical question if anything it's more of a religious question

if we want to go down that road

its sures tll was never a philosophical question though

if slavery was a philosophical question

then the civil war would have been fought with quills and

fucking books

and not with rifles

so it's not a philosophical question

actually many would argue

that a fundamental prerequisite to participate in philosophy is a more

fundamental ground of freedom that can only be

um

acquired at the level of something beyond philosophy like physical force right

then you can do philosophy i mean there's a reason socrates and plato and aristotley were not slaves because

slaves can't really do philosophy right

so what a stupid fuck

and by the way voh says i only use philosophical terminology and that i'm not actually

um

educated in the sphere of philosophy

but voss literally didn't even know that certainty and faith

are considered opposite to one another

in philosophy so

and a bunch of other shit too i' i'm not even talking about right now

so

yeah

crash argument itself you're not going to make an appeal to like

bodily autonomy or to no i'm not i'm not going to make a fucking appeal to bodily autonomy or any fucking else because i'm not going to try and premise and condition our rejection of slavery upon some kind of fuking twitch or you tube debate bro talking point because at that point

what if we decide to come to a different conclusion right then it's up in the air the question of slavery is not a matter of philosophy

the hold on hold on let me reel it back

that's not even philosophy if you were to talk about bodily autonomy

you're not participating in philosophy

you're trying to create an arbitrary moral system

creating an arbitrary moral system

is just as much philosophy

as is

i can't even say this

a certain a person with certain

let's say cognitive limitations

trying to build a nuclear reactor out of legos

and like spitting on it and shitting all over and being like look

this is my science experiment

that's not

that's not

balking

engineering

ok

and vos trying to create a fucking arbitrary moral system

we're talking about well bodily autonomy what does that even mean bodily autonomy

i believe listen oh axiomatic systemic thinking is not philosophy

it's not

as much as you like to believe it is it's not if you like

for axiomatic systemic thinking is about drawing red lines and then proceeding from those premises that is not philosophy

gap

the only premise philosophy has ever proceeded from

is the platonic idea and its consistency thereof

what

the thing is

that's not even necessarily true because

the platonic idea is metaphysically ambiguous it

it's it is latent with all of the the

mythical poetic

poetry of being

that you had in the pri socratics the idea contains

like

a metaphysical wealth that is irreducible to the concept

some kind of baren purely formal concept

the idea is like

metaphysically dense

okay so even then you can't say that we only begin with the idea is stranged from the rest of being we no the idea is part of a more harmonious

a

world of being

right

like for example heideger

says that all the problems begin with the platonic idea

right

i disagree platonic idea

is not

the

a pure

who form of modernity which is just like an empty pure form totally estranged from all reality no

platonic idea contains is a way of giving form

to the whole of being

it's not an empty pure form that set against the whole of being

as is the case in the modern philosophy

it is a form of being itself

a plotonic idea so even then you can't say it's a form of axiomatic systemic thinking

right

even then

modern philosophy is not even an axiomatic

a systemic form of thinking that begins with first premises

the only example of that in the history of modern philosophy

if we assume hegel's the last philosopher which i do

would be spinoza

spinoza right

be like we begin from substance all body is substance

h spa substances ex extended in space some shit like that and he keeps

building off of the premises right spinoza kind of works that way

only spinoza

consent

what about individual liberties the way hake was talking about earlier like

feel like there are

feel like there are directions you could go with us you know

ram talking mad shit about you saying he will debate you on the nature of goodness i don't give a fuck

we have to debate about that

why slavery is fundamentally evil

then everything else becomes up to debate too i don't want to arrive a situation

where we have to start debating about things like pedicili on things we know intuitively

and inherently to see wash attacked me

and then i just said i don't want to debate about things like pedophilia and look at the nervous look on his faces likeh i feel called out

yeah that's why vosh

i you self evident but you're relying on yourelings youre lostbout

like i said there are things there are lines we should not cross ashuman beings as a matter of basic human decency th human

this is such bad argument think how you this is bad arguments

prove it

i'm calling your bluff prove why that's a bad argument

whovides a bat argument i'm actually interested

provides a bad argument osh you can't

because you're going to say something like

well if that's the case then there's a whole lot of other arbitrary things that people can say we shouldn't cross

they can say it

but the question of if whether they're going to be successful in persuading the audience

it's different right

i mean you can say we should not cross the line of

debating medicare right let's say bosses like what's going to stop us from doing that if we don't have clear

philosophical distinction lines right

i

nothing's going to stop you

but you're not going to be successful

because the difference between medicare for all for example

and slavery

isn't the difference premised by conceptual reason or philosophy

itself

it's a difference again

that is both objective and at the same time as far as its significance is concerned

unconscious and intuitive

he react to the british dep state atempt to asasisi linln by supporting unpaedriotic john wills booth and the confederacy

also shuttle to inrared and r t s g

i don't know much about that but it sounds like it was evil fighting against maybe evil i don't know

so fucking stupid how people don't understand that

it's a bad argument

what do you mean it's a fock and bad argument

we should recognize there is some shit we shouldn't

cross why do you want a debate about slavery

why do you want to

response like when you begin like was slavery good or was slavery bad

um

what does the historical record show us as far as we fought a civil war about it

that's all done

why are you why are you asking whether it was good or bad or not of what

again i'm a pragmatist and vohs a fuckin anglo whatever

so to me

what is the meat and potatoes point of this discussion right

do you want to reverse the tides of history and reintroduce slavery

maybe you should humble yourself before the history and ask the question of why a war was fought over this in the first place

i meean to humble yourself

you're not a fucking

god who stands above history and reality

whether abraham lcoln was

goodre evil because i you can't trust any historyowaday

much less the mainstam media present ay

you got to with that i do want to remind you i guess aing the description folks it is been a lively onant to be sure and

interesting and interesting contradiction that i've noticed from nazis is that many times they're pro john will spooth because they think that like

slavery was based and here by reuniting the country he brought the south in control of like the jews in the north nobody cares aout thats not not everyone's a fucky nazi

but the interesting thing is that also when nazi talk about slavery they'll say thateople jew stay go on to whiteople and in reality jws we responsib for slavery this is

and you guys notice that just position they do both of those things at sameie

ww are you telling me theo ideological people

are inconsistent logically including you wasoh you're also inconsistent logically too you stupid fuck

i just named about like a dozen in this fucking

passed seven hours alone

that you thought you we reponsible slavery should be like o yeahn stop you good he'sop thosese

they don't say that they believe both things at the same time

youing i do this all the time for every issue

were other likely one i mentioned earlier as remas we hearn it just a week agos intedmal in the last week of this month you want to that debate on it's right and i wasaing's going to take well in as thatn you w

y i appreciate oky

thank you i to gup bit to surround a

wow well we did it that was a thing that happened that was the stupidest

fit

i have ever sat through in my life that was

remarkable

i can i can't g be out here be outre

come out

to me out

com me out please com out

le me out he's got

yeah so what are my thoughts after all that what are my prescriptions

ah

pus is really bad at debating

that's why he's scared to debate me who gives a fuck what you think anyway ha

and i think it's really telling

how

the thing the thing to me is in a way

has standing up against slavery at the end

was almost even more spineless because in a way there's an admirable consistency to him folding to hake on every single conservative issue

was i folding to hate

listen he keeps he said i folded the hague

and i showed you actual evidence

that i was staying true to the position i've held

as early as february twenty ninetheen in written form

so how was i folding to exactly

and i didn't fold on shit

because we did disagree throughout that fucking debate to fuck an idiot

i just

i guess you're saying i let his right wing rhetoric slide

because

i don't necessarily disagree with some all of it

the part the rhetoric i do disagree with is

i'm my own man he can

describe

his position however he wants

i wouldn't describe it that way but i'm my own man what am i going to do tone police him and police his speech

you know

so fucking stupid

but he wasn't even consistent on that there was the last one he had to challenge you know what i mean

like he what he wasn't even

this is by the way such an incoherent illogical stupid fucking thing to say

you're spineless because you were folding to hate

and that was admirably consistent

but then

you s you h

you push back against hate

and it's not the only time i push back against him

but it's the time i did it the most intensely you pushed back against take

and

that

was

that was cowardly

and why was it cowardly

because it wasn't considered what so being consistent so let's let's just adopt the premise

that i was being cowardly

there's something admirable about being consistently cowardly

and when you're inconsistent about being cowardly it's even more cowardly

what

that's assuming that i'm elevating cowardice to some ideal principle that i'm committing to

out of some reason righteous like he's just going down a path that makes him look fucking stupid

right

juster's complete stupid contradiction

isn't even like

spineless he wasn't even like consistent enough to be properly spineless he had to be spineless about being spine

and throw the defense up a the last tight

i am glad that he said giving like the slavery is bad it's just that's where your line is really

you know that mean where it

that's where my line is really sure

is that a bad line to have

that

it's pretty outrageous thank you josh mackers to say slavery wasn't that bad

yeah i think that is pretty fucking

out there

far as public discourse is concerned

it's like i can excuse this but that's going too far and then the lady says

what so we're basically saying is

ha's excused when hate

sad

that

i don't know

oz excused when haikes said that white people were being censored by big tech

but when hag said that he defends slavery

that's ridiculous how's a soone can sick what

as you can excuse that

like yeah because that was by far the most outrageous thing

hake said the whole fucking time you fucking idiot

you know i

anyway phenomenal me

fantastic stuff

they didn't even talk about coming

like at any point during any of that

i did in the introduction it's not my fault hey didn't want to

ram says he will donate ten thousand dollars to any political movement of your choice if you can show proof you wrote books about hayool

i can

i can but he can't leak it

hold on he can't leak it tell him he can't leak it but privately i can show him

on this courd i conshol him privately

he cannot leak it

you cannot leke it though

and he has to swear

and i might even force him to write an n d a to swear

that's an easy ten k

and political movement of your choosing infraredza political movements

infrared's a political movement

really

he will

wy in't she can

i can

no way

i can i can do that

would on i can't do that

no way no way no way no way no falkonway

no fucking way

hold on

oppy link address let me see

misse

this is gonna be an easy ten gay guys

this is going to be an easy ten k

he just added it has to be two hundred pages it is

it is

it's a hundred and eighty thousand

two hundred thousand words something like that and then i have another one that's ninety thousand words

i don't know which one i should do

actually it's more than one hundredight are you kidding

combined yeat it's way more

he can't be trusted it's way more than

two hundred pages dude

it's

you know

weigh more than two hundred pages

infrared

if infrared

sent me

two

a hundred dollars

no no

sends me two of his hagel book manuscript

i will donate

ten thousand dollars

i didn't

i didn't actually write two books

about hegel specifically

did i

i wrote a book about havil

i wrote a book about hagel heyess i need an nda

i need an d a because

yeah

to

any political movement that he

ten thousand dollars

i'm not joke

i will legit i will sell

any assets i have and i

i swear on not

he can send me two of his bookman

now a book

as to be minimum

to

both have to be minimum two hundred

um

i don't have to i don't think i

i don't know i have one

specifically about hegel

that's well above two hundred thousand

the other other ones that i have

they're very much like hegel

there's hegel saturated

but i don't know if you can say they're about tgle

right

i actually am going to hold him to that sit please download this clip because i'm going to follow up with him and hold him to that

one thousand percent and it has to actually be

et

bring

now wait what it has to be coherent well ok that's an ur you can arbitrarily decide whether it's coherent or not then

you can arbitrarily decide whether it's coherent or not

he's going to write some

no no so we a

he has ten

yea you noo he has an hour

is an hour ok hold on

actually yes

hold on where's that

i have him as a friend rn

bram

calling i right now

i just beamded them

i want to take you up on your offer for ten k

i actually have them right here

right here

this is actually gonn to be easy

wow i have the

all of them here

unbelievable this is a stupid thing to say why would you call my bluff

like why would you risk it you know

hello

hello infrared yeah yeah

yeah i want to take you up on your offer

all right you heard the conditions right i can go over them again

they have to be two books about hegel

two hundred page not minimum what do you mean by tagle

because one of we have to be books on hagel

only on hegel

or can w n itt be a page that like no it's not just a page like

both so

i have one need to be i have one about hagel right about hagel's dialectic

you said you had six books on hagl w why didn't i didn't have i say i have six on hagl i had six in general

not all of them are haveal

f

i was under the impression that you you'd master tagal at nineteen

hm i did

per meal

so

but i the one i want to s i'm going to send you is when i wrote at nineteen but

you need to

i need like an n d a or something that you cannot share this with no one

listen no but i've said i din't like i

i can't just take a book that has hg because all of the stuff i've written

has icontian themes in them

i'm talking about book's scholarship on hegel

what do you mean scholarship

like official academic scholarship no no no no scholarship in that it is about hegel yeah yeah i have one that i can guarantee i said to

two two hundred plus page books on hage

i have one two hundred page book on hegel

ok why i said to

and

that was what was clipped

you so you need two books about hagl specifically what is the criterion for it being about hagel

the topic has to be hegle

what about like hegel and communism

why don't you send ou

this is getting like complicated but you're kind of like change you're kind of backtracking now and like no no i saidut here no no no no no no no from the very start i said about hagel

so the question is whether we can interpret about hegel very broadly

when

you said that you mastered hegel at onineteusen yea and you said you wrote six books on hagel when did i say that i never said i wrote six on hagel

that is what i recall during our last was called falsey i never said i wrote six books on hagel i wrote one on hagel specifically

the rest evince a level of mastery of hegel's logic

but they're not about tgle

it well i need two books on hagel infrared that's what that's what was clipped to you that's what you saw

so i didn't say one book on hegel and then another that has inspiration

in he galian thought that's really fucking cowardly

how is that not ho simply the one i'm pretty sure the one book

that i mean to send you

is

at least four hundred pages

is four hundred pages of one book

yeh

allt no i can't just i can't

two books are going to be about

two different subjects ing in hagelan thought ya

yeah

yeah know we have to stick to the original conditions has i'm sorry

that's so fucking cowardly

i don't think so i don't think it's cowardly to stick to why why do i have to write two books on hagl specifical because you said were you were in like i don't think if you were a master of hegel at oneteusen how old are you now

twenty five

ok so if you were an expert at hegel at nineteen i feel like you should be able to write more than one book on hegel

why would i write one book only on hegel what am i going to write a biography

i write books that apply hegel's method and his logic

and his insights

develop those like the meaning of those

but

so see one of them is specifically about communism

from a ha gelian perspective like in light

yeah yeah the other one is just about hagel's dialect

it just has to be but both have to be about hegle

like something like a spirit of trust you know

so i why would hold on why would mastery of hegel system entail writing more than one book

interrupt

infrared listen

i sent you the original conditions my conditions on this have not changed at all

you can't come in here and be like you like andro

you're a fucking coward that's not how this works actually conditions to get t thousand bucks as a result of it either you know the conditions i look it ot or you don't okk let me let me let me see

let me see what i have

let me see what i he might have a hidden book

no

in the way i actually might i actually might in ball

so let's see

um

listen listen

how long cold to be offer this like fifteen minutes ago ten minutes ago

call me back okay

ap

you've got your two candidates or whatever and then we'll go over it then oka

ok i'll talk you a a bit

no no no i have to go so we're going to do this now

oh oh okay

alright wow

ok

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there's that one

and i won't show it downs stream or anything

if you don't want

uh hold on

and a paradigm example of a book about hagel would be something likelight

i feel like a spirit of trust is the best

sample

so something aga talking about its introduction to hagl because i haven't written one of those

no it doesn't it just about hegel the the primary topic has to be about hagel yeah i have one guarant but

ok but i said into like in in arguably unambiguously but i yes i understand that infrare it but i said to

that's what the original conditions were you can be mad at my conditions that's fine

but

the original conditions as i put them

from the very beginning

two books on hegel specifically

minimum two hundred pages that are coherent

what does coherence mean by the way who gets to define what that means

i mean that it's not like an undergraduate level

paper kind of thing like the arguments have to make sense it has to be readable there you go with that because you're obviously going to say they don't know no no no no want to n no no i will not no i will not if if a reasonable person can be like oh this is a coherent like

you know have to be a person who's like

heavily knowledgeable about marxism

about continental not hagel

what

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