ACTUALLY PISSED [PT 2] [2021-11-06]

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we're unmuted we're unmuted

in case

it were uneted

okay we're back

we back

hod the fog

i got so scared

sorry guys we were talking about pokem on

we're talking about pokem on

and we got carried away

if we're back we're back

mmhmm

god damn

who

what's your favorite polkem on

um jig poff

oh yea

i like chicky boops

you literally just stole my joke right now

why are you making a dirty we're literally having an innocent pokem on conversation

yy

sorry

yeah

m

would you ever get a pedicure

uch no what do i look like i would get a pedicure

yeah

why would i get a paredicue

thousse guys don't take care of their feet

i need to take care of my feet

i don't know your feet

i clean my fucking fee i wash them

so

do you like trim

trim what

yeah

toenails

i take care of myself ok too

you know we're on muted right now right

i know i literally i was talking about that

and you're making it seem like

because it wen't ok to i got a pedicatet the other day

but now i have a cat on my foot and i'm like

listen

he let me give you some advice

we men we don't want to hear about your pedicure

ok

youn't even know what that means you're just supposed to look nice for us

is so much to ask

no yeah you're justoed to appear and come and look nice to us

i'll k it oup

like

what do you mean to ask

look nice for us

two

men

really

yeah

we don't want to know the details of how that happens

it's just like listen latina it's just like disney world when you go to disney world

there's all these like a rides and stuff

you don't want to know about all the stuff that goes into that and like all the technology or whatever

you just you know

so it is

i think that's how it goes

i think that if

yes

both uh

p four

both parties

are interested in one another it should be theyre both trying to impress

yeah well i already impressed

like the maximum extent

do do you think you do i you think i burden you with my

the things that make me me you think i always talk to you about the struggles

and the fighting and all the kind of shit that i do

you think i'd tell you about how at night

i literally am a vigilante i'm a little like a d c youre o and i'm in the league of shadows and i'm always like fighting ninjas and shit and bs and thugts i don't even get me sleep and i'm doing all this crazy shit i don't tell you about that

i don't tell you about that it's an anti

yeah i'm a superhero

yeah a what it is

yeah

w is that talia al gool is she a superhero

yeah i work with her

oh really

yeah

oh okay

yeah how old is she

she is twenty

twenty years old

oh crazy

yeah

how tall is she

fyve one

oh that's crazy

yeah

do you think i look like her

you have the potential

you think if i did my hair i could look like her

yeah can you try give me the best idea

you should show a picture of her to the child

show a picture of her in that black jrumsuit

and then ask them if i could pull off that list

no who cares what chad thinks

i think i want to do that for my strem tomorrow

they'll watch your stcream

just kidding you think i watch your streams

i think you do i literally don't use like an al to count i don't even think i'm on me see if i follow you ont which i think i'm follow you

why

because he betrayed me

what does really mean

i mean person

i'm literally follow to you

stop complaining

okay good i'm littly followed ty you subscribe

hang don't no

yeare you areo i'm not subscribe

comment something

comment something on my chat

bright now

no way maybe yeah yeah yeah i was gifted a sub whatever someone gifted me a sub i don't pay i don't pay money even i don't pay money

don't even i knew you were a subscribe

i didn't pay for it

yeah but you mentally did

with your arms

you wanted it so bad

to be a sob

yeah

hello

you could see all my varts

why w i can just call you whenever i want

yeah but i'm not in my yoga pants

i can ask you to be in them

but i won't do it

in private

no

it's a one thousand an hour

how yeah

do you think i should charge her calls

with me i should be charging you after what you did to me

ah after what you you're literally taking advantage of my kindness and forgiveness like my christ like forgiveness you're taking advantage of it

no yeah

that's how worri that is

no

i forgave you unitn grateful

i'm grateful you talking a much

talking about nonsense

appreciate it

charge i be reoring

mmhmm

am i being boring

no want to do yoga

should i yeah do yoga

then i have to change

yeah change

this is not my dream

it's up to you

mm

i don't know you'll have to pay me

oh i have to pay you the subs and it i'm not paying for wly anymore by the way

oka good

you're paying for it

no

yeah

if you want it you pay

mmhmm

well now

get a little cocky

what are these clips on your channel

watch them

watching them right now

interesting

very intellectually stimulating

yeah

which one was that

uh the one where you were talking about the quantum mechanic yeah yea yeah i was uh and the physics and the way that the particles collide to form the nuclear uh

dryonic shift precisely

pcisely that precisely

yes

exact medicine the ad to tolsin is a main part of that you can't forget that

that's exactly the the one i'm talking about yes

like the one with

the

article collider like the article collision is a really important the collision i course exactly where there's just asort there's just continual collision

i know

ya for sure

by really

back and forth

going back and forth

yeah

i feel blad that i'm ruining your stream

i started to scream late i wasn't even going to scream today

like i can like how long are you streaming to

i'm probably another light

ours

how long do you want me on the call

i don't care

want to leave

i can change my

tp

yea change your top

because i feel bad

ok what's that

i'm scared she's goning to make a mistake a on

ok

it's unsafe

why is everyone in shap beitching

ok all let me tell you something all ofre you beaching right now

all of you beitching right now

where were you on twitter backing me up

if you're bitching right now and he wasn't on twitter backing me up shut the fuck up

literally spent all day dealing with some bullshit

can have a break

check this

what is this

mm

yeah taught it she you know she's literally lying about that too right

i

have you ever had an accident

have you ever had an accident

like what do you mean

like bannable

no

yeah

oh flat

i won't do it at this thing

that shit literally worries me a lot

i'm always worried about that i swear a go

now with me but with

um

how should i put it with

which

women

okay

okay

no n no

iy

i got band for underboo

like six months ago

so i was wearing like a really obvious like

big

slit under boop

and i didn't know that it was beanable

so and i got the into it

but now i know cleavage is allowed

i know camelte is not allowed

uh you can't show your but cheeks like i'm full aware of like what is and what isn't allowed on twitch

i

ok on give me one second

i'm going to meet right now

hold on to mute

i run muted

r on muted don't worry

we're on muted

don't worry about it we'rell needed

care hous is make you better

so why did you choose the name the wild latino

uh i don't know cause i actually made the account because i was watching somebody else

and then like somebody i knew were you watching

like it was like a friend like a family friend

was it a guy

yeah

did i say you could talk to him

a family friend

does that mean

like a family friend

like

that you know that can be an arranged marriage right

like he's married to somebody

m

is related

interesting very interesting

very very interesting

so

what were you saying again

that's all so i don't know i just made it to watch him

is it a step brother

no

ok just making it sure

making sure

anyway we're you talking about why did you choose the name

yeah and then i just made it it was like an impulse decision i wasn't planning on streaming with it but it's like such a good idea

what's you mean name

and if you look up the willd

some thing the now everybody is putting their names as the wildest the wildcat

see here's the thing i call myself

a pioneer like i'm an explorer right

and what i do is i tame the wilderness

ok

you know that means

oh

means like

i make things wild

ten

ok

yeah

after latina

after me yeah will you call yourself the tame lautina

uh no i don't think i will you know what you know you've almost gott me cancelled a bunch of times be cause your name's the wild latina and i always just call you latino

how that's not my because every time i every time i call you latino people are you talking about latinos

who said that

it's been said before i remember it

my god

i remember that i remember that

yeah i go why why weren't you on the royal this week

because i'm going to be honest i thought you were mad at me

really because you know i wasn't on the fucking royal i quit the royal discord for like a week

yeah

yeah and i didn't want to make things worse

to be honest so that's why i didn't go and thought that was because you

yeah

ah i have that much power

i just don't like to start anything i don't want to make people upset

you didn't start anything

i felt like i did

the only thing you started

honestly this is like the worst thing you did

is cheating on

you cheate it on me

how do i cheat on you

i didn't cheat on you you were cheating on me first and we were broken of yeah

no

we were broken up

no theyare you were

you

if if we break up you get bann that's our words did news from someone else

what do you mean accept that it just got sent to me

what do you mean accepted

mm what i mean

you're so jealous

know what if i what if i start going after every start ok you want to play his game what if i start going after every single guy in your chat

why

they're notcing me

pictures and stuff and i'm not being like oh hos you better step up

aa

now

listen you you can step up i'm giving you the chance

mmhmm

mmhm i don't think so

i think so

cooing

i think the reason you don't think so is because

you know so

no

you don't have to think about what you already know

no you know what the thing is

i thought it was like

set already it was like set and stone ok good and then you were on

ah

better step up

and i'm like tin latina as a grown man can you blame me

can you blame me as a grol maan

are ya

what you want me to do know about it the report block

no far accepting that's me

you are accepting that harassment

it's not harassment

yes

listen you can't you can't be jealous and solicited pictures you can't be beefing with other

girls

i'm not

ok there's plenty of me to go wround

oh no

yeah

that's the problem

why is that a problem

that's the concern

listen

we'll get married

you know i can do temporary mariite right

you know

no it's in my religion i'm allowed to do it

what do you was your religion

it's here

se has seen

no shea is lam

i

never heard of ba you can do temporary marriage

so sorry

like i is this is what we do is i have you and then we face time mean you face time the the mom

the mosque i go bra look at this you know i'm saying

but saying give me your blessing and then he gives me his blessing and then

we're married we can do what we want

oh nice ya

and it's not even i won't even go to hell

really

yeah

okay

can you have more than one

marriede at the same time

i don't know i have no idea

you should look ato that

yah

but i think i was wanting to make you my exclusive wife

we're loka

yeah

yup

interesting

yeah

i guess

i don't know

i'm not really the type to get married

ah in my twenties

it's only temporarily

writ temporarly

mmhmm

yeah

okay

so how long

as long as you need

why would i need to be married

temporarily so you don't go to hell

you could save your soul

i'm fine

really

yeah are you religious

i'm ok

are you

no we are

yeah you said it was in your religion

yeah but that's just like to make sure i don't go to hell

you're going to get cancelled so hard

why

i don't know

you don't think i'm already cancelled

have you seen

you think that have you seen my twitter or forget about in a week

mhmm

you think you've been cancelled over one

tweet or whatever one video that people are going to forget about and we're not trust me there it's been a week

i mean at least you're getting publicity that is the good part i would be like thank god like i w a lot of ews after something like that happened to me

i started to scream too late so that's why i'm not getting

enough publicity right now i know like why not

because you derailed the stream by distracting it

ok sorry

so

here's a thing

but

here's what i actually really want to know

right

how many holes

are below woman's waist

more than two hayes

really

now we're jumping on board the cancel culture train h

i'm joking

i don't know like technically yah yah yeah yeah yah more than two but i

like

when you ask somebody that how many houss yeah like

to

that is like what you say

i'm not a scientist i'm not going i'm not a biologist i'm not going to be careful about your words here this's really

biologist

these are really dangerous words and you're going to offend a lot of people i'm i'm not offending obvious i'm not even kidding you have to be care

technically speaking

technically there are obviously more than two holes or the pea hole

all the hole

obviously

but when you ask somebody the first hand response it's going to be two and it's not something

worth being canceled over

wll if i get counseled for this that is the stupidest thing buty at least i'll get some publicity you just got canceled for

for why i am literally for saying you know what you did what you did is worse than what hit the nazis

don't say that ah don't say that

what you did is worse than racism right now don't fucking say that

don't say yeah it's worse than racism

don't say they're going to get cancelled there do literally are you think we are watching your stream right now waiting for me to say yes

he know

trust me yes

so w country a you from again

what do you think

to what

no

phuertorico

no

the minican republic

you know

weot fock mexico

oh

where the fark are you from

look at my moiw

it's a long

ok don't make your king stretch his neck

little at a fking bio

iver workout you can't look the other way

stretch you no i already work not i already worked out already folcus you he those like nep exercises that like a

some wrestler does i don't do neck exercises you know something i want you to do or something this something i want you to do

is

since i'm a king i want to be able to sit on my throne while i'm streaming and you just feed me grapes

ya that ption

and now on

i myself i expect someone to fend me

with hand fans on either hand you in the falcking winter

and i will put the heater on all the way just so that i can be fanned

fans

and then

you have to make food for me

i actually i can fan i can actually fan you let me show you

i can literally fan you like this

ready ian to do

what a fuck

yeah

i'm literally like going to flinch every time i get a wave

when

scared

yeah that's oh no you know why is that the plastic one no it's metal oh i'm not scared n it's metal

confirm did you actually go to spirit halloween and buy

a stword and say that it was metal no it's metal it's made of thedamsk ile yes it is made mask of steel

where dies it say on the fine print

it should say materials

made in china book right plastic

the mask is steel

that scratches

no

that is scratches

i should say

made in china and then underneath it

clss

thatk

you know i hunt monsters right

what kind

giants

my god i tried to call the ghostbuster's number like two days ago

what does he do for halloween

i got drunk at my house

you've literally live such a boring life

i was gonn to go out

i'm not second vaccinated

go out where

two clubs

that's boring clubs fuck and sock

i've never been to a club before

really

yah i just nw never wanted to

can i see your i d

no i was actually thinking of showing you but i don't even have it on me

you don't have it on you

like it's upstairs obviously i'm not going to show you

that's the first thing i'm going to buking as you when you g uss for your

when i pick you up from the airport i want to ask for your i d

and if i think it's fake

she's going to drive off bye bye youll keeple your real nem

m

do you tell people your real name

zero

this is my that's

that is your real name yeah

okay

i was just wondering

see i don't tell people my real name

tell me in person

that's the thing like if i showed you my id obviously you would know that's the problem

why is that a fucking problem

i have to keep my identity a secret

you're literally coming to meet me you have to fuck and keep your name

never confirmed

o okay we're still living in fiction

never compa it hypothetically when you come and see me

i can't hear your name

m

maybe

maybe if you buy my starbucks

and then if i

you think i'll like the name

you think i'll like it

oh yeah my name is really nice

really

that's really pretty

my parents made it up

we will see

but she'll never know

sour

sure

my old

coworker

who had a huge thing for me

he found my twitch today

and i'm so pissed about it so he could doxs the fuck out of me

like on tomorrow's dream

with

why did you give him that idea

i didn't give it like it's just uh inevitable like if you know my stream and i i blocked him as soon as he he messaged me he's like is that the wi latina i was like blocked

so now he's obviously going to come in my chat and like try to docs me

didn't you have a boyfriend didn't you have an ex boyfriend you want me to talk to

yeah

when's that going to happen

never

why

there is

you're embarrassed

thank you jackson appreciate you jackson thank you so much are you embarrassed

ok be honest be completely honest

i actually am

yes

do you have a single ex boyfriend that compares to me

um

in what way

in terms of being literally the peak

mail

how many people have you been with like how many girlfriends have you had

girlfriends

two

are really

yeah

helly

yeah

what can you not keep a relationship

they were pretty long

how long

ight

six months in a year

you think six months is long

yeah

oky for you yeah

you probably live in a town in the middle of nowhere

right real now

i live in a

in the likee cute city you live in a boring

pleace

no

i know i'm very private

very p you literally just sit at home all day doing nothing

can compete with your ex girlfriends

g me matterica

you really gonna put me in this corner

listen all i can say

i have very high standards

you have to answer the question

and you compare to them

yea

yeah you can compare

matter

um you know

oh wow you know i mean look

you're around there

beatter

you know what why don't you give me something first before we get there

i'm going to just give you all this shit

with nothing in return

yeah

okay

so i'll be honest you're a very jealous person right

mmhmm

whw you just audmitted it

yeah

so like how jealous are we talking like

it depends

does that mean

well i don't know i just it depends on like how serious

the situation is for me to be jealous because sometimes

ill pretend and joke to be jealous but sometimes i will be a little jealous

are you the type that like

would slash my tires or something

now

that's like crazy in so you're not crazy

like it depends on what you did for me to slash the tires

what if

what i

what if

what if we went out to dinner right

mmhmm

and it's a really really expensive restaurant i'm talking like

really is super super expensive

you understand

yeah

probably the most expensive one in the state

so i bring you there we get wine and dime we get some wine

oh she you're twenty

pleay goll

to drink n

here it is

h whatever

anyway

hypothetically let's say we wine in dine whatever

the bill is like

five hundred dollars right

so i get up to use the bathroom

before i pay the bill

the go wash my hands

andre you're just sitting there

any waits me to come back

then ten minutes passes

i'm not back

in twenty minutes passes

still not back

how you calling me here texting me

thirty minutes

jus you gil one moment le you go outside

you go outside the car's gone

and i just had a meal

i just had some lobster

would you be able to forgive me for doing something like that

it's really me

why

that's mean

all i wanted was a free meal

how does that mean

me

so you wouldn't forgive me

no why not

because that's mean

what if

to make it up to you

no

would have to make it up to i apologize

no

what

you're something must've really really been expensive like or

important enough for you to do that and then on top of that i was just i was just hungry i wanted to

not eat and not pay for it

no

but i just didn't want to ask you

now

to paiy for

okay

really

now

that's mean

that's mean

i would if i left a note

no with a smiling face and i it said see you at that

what the far does it se you at home

and then at home

no chill chill chill

to the orange juice in the fridge because iim so thirsty

and you could just your way home

no

that is an unnecessary no

listen i feel like

what does it mean

no it's it's not mean i just

it's not me and i just feel like

i need to temper your expectations and standards and may not understand

you really have to work to and i will i mean someone who won't leave me to pay the

literally somebody from my ha any need from your

even my ex boyfriend would pay the bill

im like your ex boyfriends

yeah because they're actually nice

i'm nice

not at ao

i'm literally so nice what are you talking about

none n no

in that scenario i no

no no no that scenario that's no

no

why doesn't the guy aways why does the guy always have to be

now here's the thing

yeah here's a thing

i don't like your attitude for one

to it you think that all women are against men that is your that is your little bit i say that

you taught it what you're saying based off of what you're saying

you were saying why do men have to pay the bill yes setting that

you are setting that standard yourself nobody in this conversation said men had to know this is what you'll say you'll be like you'll be like you like listen no n no i' tell you what you'll say you'll be like look look you be der standing no n no i'll sa i'll say you was going on no not

s was going on you i

no no no sjust shh a no no no no that's not how it's going to work no no no i'm gona tell you

no no

why you guing with me

let me tell you listen sten if this was going to happen this was going to happen you're going to say you're going to say you're going to say

you going to say

sort the paying arrangement i don't want any of that awkward shit ok if i'm going to dinner with somebody or some friends we're going to discuss ok i'm getting my own no no ok i'm going to tell you the truth noo here's the truth here's the truth right we know the truth

you're going to say oh ok yah split the bill

but you just not get any top

i'm respectful if i say i'm gonna split the bill i'm not going to be like

oh bek yeah yeah

you're going to say oh yeah i'll split the bill with you but when we get home

you ain't get nothing

yeah

why

that's how that's how women are they say the says look i'll spend the bill with you oh that's how you want to play

but when we get home

i'm not giving you shit

this is exactly what i mean you are setting that standard for yourself

you're saying that's how women are that's how this or that so you can't accept the fire i don't know what kind of past relationships have failed you ok those two women in your life

but somehow

they've made you believe

that women expect more

then what

is like

you women expect more than equal they expect you think that women expect the bigger house they do know how yes they do of course they do oh really really

really have ever been in an actual healthy ca relationship

or friendship you will know equality equality ok i'm sorry that people have failed you in your life

no listen listen ok listen this is the biggest fairy tale i've ever

in my

life are you kidding me a quality a quality thats i ws in the real world t add right a do ok adude literally don't even got a chanance if he's not going to be paying for the uggy meal are you kidding

now yeah

yeah

yeah ok so basically you're saying basically

that are dodoed

can literally be a mcdonald's worker

and

she can be

riches hell and it's wrong with working at mcdonald's

you' so full the cap

you so soa for the cap

so you're saying

i can i can you're saying

i cannot have a car i can have oka latina

you paid for the flight and you paid for the over to my place

and

that's what you're saying basically right

us you oh also also you're also saying you're also saying that w when we go out

we going a both split

the defense like i'm not going to be the one protecting you we're going to both equally protect each other right

from glds

if someone is attack on me you're going to be like

shut this is litter this is this is

this is literally where i you disprove your entire argument this is literally where your whole arguments l yoga has come in handy

exactly

if they come from behind i mean it'll be like a

mmhm

interesting

ok

e g thirteen no it's not it just went from p g to p g thirteen

ok anyway so w all my legs into this

ok

to make some good use out of this

youeed to wiggle your legs why

because they're leggings you have to like jump

put them on

oh yeaes

so you do yoga

yes

every tay meditation

you meditate

yes

like how so is how do you meditate

that's just sleeping

it's boring

that's literally just sleeping

wake up

let me ask you a question why do you wear headphones

sometimes people have to listen

to certain conversations that they're having when on the phone

what

yes

why don't you get speaker

get a speaker get airpods aar people in my house

get air pods

i lost them

oh my god are you know i i'm so pissed about i literally lost them

let me see without headphones

will i have

hed fon hair

interesting

wow okay

your parents are sleeping

ha your parents are sleeping

doon't turn the speaker's on or

no not the speakers no

no sir

you live think one you think your parents

you think your parents would like me

no

why

i'm such a good guy you have to like a notification like a what's it what is the

oh my on parents approve of us

would we be have to be like romeo and juliet

forbidden leng

i don't give a fuck what my dad says

like a religious thing

amm okay

you have to pull like a night bat every ten minutes an auto thing that's like

guys she's twenty

guys she's twenty

why what are they saying

no some one just said she looks she's seventeen a dar said she's seventeen

s can't understand i have a lot of twitter enemies the people are attacking me and they're just

digging for any

ok

thging for are you sure you can handle

the bad publicity of being with me

um

why

do you really thinke someone this i someont of got pulicity you think this is so it's you know my you know s someone little let's you know i've been trying to protect you

someone who's with me in public

he's literally going to have to be a warrior

ok

this is the question is the ultimate question

would you stand by me

when everyone's against me

we if everyone's against you then it's probably for a reason

o

are you kidding

like if you're saying literally everyone in the world

i'm not going to be the clown all the all the political people and all the political people on twitter

all the political people

yeah and a lot of a lot now

now a lot of a lot of only fans girls got involved too for some reason

sophia is so sweet the child

someby say o she's just being nice to me

what do they say

she said

nice things

listen sophia is literally cringe ok

chuck thet fuck i are literally like the most grt person in all fuk

oh you know who toell me to set the porgir

oh that's why i w i didn't want to say anything okay

okay listen

listen listen and listen

what

here's a thing

right

i am not going to agree with you on anything with politics related because i don't know anything about pw yeah that's ok that's ok but so i'm not going to on well let's say let's say twenty thousand people on twitter

are against me

what there yikes

suck

dam so you would turn against me too

like if it's politic related i wouldn't give a fuck to be honest i would just be like

i i don't fin it's like if people are accusing you of something that you didn't do

or something i look at a lot a lot of people are mad about the two whole thing

yeah thatre's nothing to be mad about like five five thousand people are mad about it

no that's not something to be mad about there's like five thousand people mad about

yeah

no that's not something to be mad about

people are just like i don't know

what about when these only friends girls come at you when they start like attacking and stuff

oh you really going to take that

mm

mean you really i can handle it i can handle it but in my so tut about it

can you handle it

ah

and you heloa

yes

because let me see your twittering to go look at your twitter

missing

i'm looking at a twt right now

the wild latina

you follow me

don't follow me

we only have two thousand followers

you know i shut up i literally st you haven't even seen the rath

political twitter

what is your twitch let me look at your ticket for

no don't follow me on twitter trust me there's an infrared haze

yall is sharing the der for

you know the durham operations adriana retweated it

is that you

she retweeted it i guess i'm in it

yea a minute oh yeah yeah wait

costa rica

yeah

what's in costa rica

uh coffee beans

and i go to costa rica

yh

i want to go to costa rico but i think we can we can recreate it in michigan

go for it

we can recreate costa rica michigan

y

do it

oh wait whath

you can recreate coffee farms

no no i'm not talking about colifforms anyway

scrolling through this let me see

what is your twitter

don't worry

um

i'm a warrior on twitter i'm fighting on twitter every single day i'm almo tweeting

what is it in

oh

oh you stupid it's literally your name

in forra has

yeah

oh my god you only have five thousand follwers

i have six thousand

it says fi five as the first

number

yeah

so it's five thousand something not six thousand something

no it's six thousand

it's litly like five thousand nine hundred thirty eight you really want to get up on the technicality i point nine you're literally just like the whole people who get mad about you know it's funny and you're literally calling me o saying i have like no followers and s have two thousand ok look at my instagram

what do you have

what do you have one ins sta

i think

seven thousand something

wo seven thousand

yeah my personal ac caunt has more followers than you grow my insta

no

yeah

my personal account has a ot can we take ins pictures together

mm

now

why not

i don't want people tot follow me

why not

itces

is that w you if that is that why you took a picture with jackson

why

to yeah so i was so you don't want to be seen with me because you don't want to upset

your followers on instagram

no i just

what if what if i do this when we're together i'm a take your phone i'm a go live i'm going to say listen up everybody i'm her man

what are you going to do about it

then i'll tweet and say hey guys i'm getting a new phone tomorrow i got hacked

really really

can' steem tonight i just don't know if it would hurt you honestly i think like

a lot of people have a complex where they like

they like it

what i mean

yeah

really

ye actually you know what we've been noticing how fast the twitch medes have been changing

and it's like a tham where girls will stream with their boyfriends

yeah that's what i mean

one

now you know

so it's okay what

yeah so you know it's okay

hm

did you fail this month yet

that i what

did you fil this month yet

the'll doing what

never mind

oh no not november

yeah yeah i listen this is actually interesting

i fileed a few days ago

and

i filed a few days ago

and

here's the thing i decided

that i know for a fact i have to do

so before you come

on i'm looking on twitterright now

before you come

m

there's this people bitching me hold on

i see

listen listen there's there

mhum

listen listen to something i learned is that i have to

i have to abstain for like a week

before you come

mmhmm

what

yeah like or at least like three days

okay

but other than that i'm good you know

okay

but anyway

f

what do you think about travis scott do you like him

i thought you said you weren't allowed to talk about that

what about whate

about the travis scott incident

no i don't i want to show it

probably oh

yeah like the guy passing out or whatever i probably co i didn't se that

yeah

no i i'm not like a personal fan of him

you think he's satanic

uh yes

i agree he actually is super satanic and i lt was a satanic

heo

oh

that's not answer

i feel like a lot of people in the in the industry are

yeah you about to get cancelled

oh no

it honestly my opinion but it's probably not true

listen

truth

is what you make of it

it is i think i think is it is true i think by say tanic i'm implying that there's people in the industry

a that are placed there just planted there to promote

the

media that they want to be distributed

days

that's what i think to be honest and i think that like so what did you see the video of travis scott where she he was like

singing in the miice

while the guy was passing out and he was like i did not see that

you didn't see he know was that

was that with his like open concert

yeah

yeah i didn't see that i just i just on like heard about it like an hour ago

no

yah

that's fucking crazy i of fuk

like i'm not going to lie like that's kind of fucx like i' would have cancelld the show cancel the fucking shirrely how can you go on

i'm sure that people in the back stage have gotten

that they were communicating with some kind of ambulance and the police

and then you know obviously he got the message but he kept going with the show

like he rather

i don't know

i would have been like canceled the show like that's a funck i couldn't live with myself if that happened under my

you know

i you couldn't continue singing as someone was passing out

so let's say let's say you come here and you starts let's say you come here

and you start singing for me

and i pass out because your voice is so bad

would you still sing

that

can you sing

yeah

sing

no i don't want to know it why why you so scared people actually say that i'm bad at it then i'll like cry

so i don't how many times you cry today

um eight

eight

i'm kidding

once

twice

how many times

three times

you cry three times a day what do girls mean by crying you actually mean like tears or just mean like i actually i talk about i'm actually meaning crying but i actually by do why do girls always say i'm crying but then then they never actually have tears

like

on tax

yeah

like a in a sad way be caause sometimes i'll be like oh my god i'm crying like laughing

yeah i don't know i've nevert before but like

i don't know i feel like it's so weird to just like announce that you're crying like if you're crying you're crying

like surely if you have to announce it that means that that's probably your like sub

mm

your s of conscious intention for it

yeah

i mean

luncheion

kinder

if you have to announce it every time

do you think i would make you cry

yeah

really

yeah

isn't that what girls want though they just want to cry

just want to guy that makes some criye

no

how often do you cry

never

yeah

never

so then you relelyse that emotion through anger and other guess like that right

exactly

inkay

very aggressive rough

angry

ok i have a lot of tension in me

laota built ap tension

right

yeah

but i don't know

not since last week though

shut upg listen

i don't know if i uh

i don't know if you can handle it

that's what i'm worried about

okay that's fine

you know

i don't know you kind of seem like a little weak

ok

you know what you sushuld get a massage

by who

ah i don't know a massage clinic

there's literally a beat

on my floor

are you giving me a massage

no

no

what am as susss

wow you're just not talented

i guess not

i just need to charge for that you know

you charge me i should charge you

oh yeah

i should charge you for even looking at me right now

i should give you i should my day i should charge you for unbanding you

giving you the chance

to not only speak to me the king and your king

right

but even the chance to see me

okay

so you should be charging all your viewers

no i should be charging

why me

because you're very you're very lucky you're in a very lucky position much interest in me

hh

the expressed much interest in me so why would you want to charge me

i expressed much interest in you

yes technically speaking

how are you going to captivate my interest

um loka wy i said aes an in espagnol parakenagi and tiende

we're going to speak another language

i told you

i don't speak spanish

no ablis for noe

okay

okay

york hero

move shaw

yo karo mucho moucho

bolo

doesn't that mean something else

let us

no mo

you said the first one doesn't mean something else

it means bit

no doesn't mean like

a private part

spanish

good bye

bulaoh okay

yo kiero mocho mocho grande coolo

okay

that's good

good for you

that you know

if you can write that down and ship it to

santa claus this christmas you're golden so listen latina how are you going to

hold my interest

listen we have talked about this like seven times on this call

i've gotta go i'm goninga go bored

youre goninga get bored

oh i'm going to go boarding

goinga go snowboarding

no i'm going to board on a skateboard

no we should go snowboarding

i've never been before

really we should go snowboarding but here's the thing it's not going to be snowing outside so i'll make it snow inside

shut the fuck out

what's wrong

i have to go boarding

snow skateboarding

yeah

why

hause i have to ge back in my routine

it's one am

that's fine

oh my god

it's daylight saving hours so i have an extra hour tonight

ing to do that is it they was savings today

yes

it is a daily savings in america too

i don't know if it's the same time for you maybe like once what does that mean do i lose an hour wek i gain an hour asutly saving i gain turning one

it is today

that means at two am

yeah

so at two am it is gon to become one a m

yeah

what the fult

i know i'm getting an extra hour i'm so happy

oh my god i almost dreamed to day bro amathlessen imaginaive i dreamed

my three hours i would have had to make it four

to add that too

i would have been like all right thanks for coming and the i' likek i have to do another hour

would you like to eat

uh burritos pizza

chips

so we're going to eat junk food

wane juice

orange junes

you know i don't mean food right

i love pineapple

why do you like pineapples

it's so good for you

i heard about ponaple

it's good for your vagina

that's

you know lizina listen you can actually

solings

like i literally knew i was literally thinking

i was literally thinking about the same thing when you said pineapple

but you can actually keep it on the low key you know i mean you don't have to actually say it

you can be more subtle you understand

like i'm scared to take you in public honestly

one

because you're very

forthright

's embarrassing

yeah

five

yeah

that's so mean

mean to be more subtle okate

okay i have to go

i'm

hungry

i am thirsty

and there is not too long i might as well dream today to be fair i could tell you're thirstay

sol dehydrator

you are very thirsty

ya soda hydrogen

ok latina

i am so thirsty that i'm going to go upstairs and pour myself a nice pgglass

i fuck and forgot about that ship

i literally forgot about that sit you know what it's ok

that's ok

that's ok

i literally forgot about that shitt

i literally forgot about that sh but you know what i'm like three and i'm like

four and two right now so she's four and three right

so we're good we're good

all right anyway

oh what is it can i cover about the travis scott thing behind a lot of people died and it was really fucked up

somethingly happening

set

some like that

oh we're going to check the red it that's what we're going to do i don't know i'm be kind of being distracted on twitter

ah bro

it's still mad about what happened on twitter

i'm still mad about what happened on twitter

i'm still actually fucking mad about what happened on twitter

i'm still mad about being gasolated on twitter

i'm actually so fucking pizsed about that

it's on fok unbelievable

tued every single day on twitter

he's going off tonight

let me look at the quote to

all the ugly people

yeah this is not impressive

i can literally tweet anything dude i can just tweet anything i'll t fuck and drive everyone insane

and

so many people are likeqe tweting that tweet just to like

because they're insecure and they'ir like i want to see if people think i'm attractive or nots super insecure and pathetic

don't get me cancelled

latina already got cancelled

coming on my stream

and admitting there's only

you only think there's two holes

you literally just

youd literally worse than falking

you're worse than

fucking the devil

you're the worst person in the world right now

you know the highlight of the day is all these girls sending me fucking

pictures of their fuck and ass

for what

i didn't ask for that

i didn't ask for the guys

did i follow latin on twitter she worth it

to follow

that follow her

now

we'll give her more time

to prove herself and then i'll

oh my god now she's jealous

it' snow my mad

i mean it's like it's funny

letina i already told you

what my preferences

in the call when we were mutge i told you my prefect i can't say it on which

but i told you all my preferences

and trust me

none of those girls

who were sending me pictures or whatever

or quote to you pictures

none of them on my tpe so don't worry you got no competition

you don't got competition trust me

ilready told you

o

ok

um

older

alright

um

i'm getting off twitter right now i'm getting off twitter

completely getting off twitter

completely getting off twitter

completely getting off twitter

wanll give me one more said

okay

i think tonight we took the bilotin i think tonight we took the w in general right

and

the only fucking l i took is not having enough food so i have this junk food in the fridge that i have

i'm going to go grab it right now

i'm going to go grab it now

give me a second

give me a sirck give me a secon i'm sook

so for cannot

we

am am

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oh yeah but we're going to talk about that watered down infrastructure bill one point two trillion and i one point five one point two

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oh peter bbin and destiny no way no bk way let me go see that no way we go to check that out we're going to check that

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done battle battle battle ok wow see sa

but i

i did hear

twelve

when you tear out a man's tongue

you're not proving him a liar

you're only telling the world

fear

what he might say

that way

said by

guide

hearing

some show named game of throne

and while we're not in westerro

in the real world

censorship

and

these kind of things are

pretty much an issue and i wanted to start

the conversation off by citing the a c l u

which

may or may not be a defender of us

belierver to use right now

debated

but

says that therese two fundamental principles that come into play

involving free expression

first is

the government cannot

limit

expression just because any listener or even the majority of the community

is offended by its content

but that's balanced by second princ

that

sppression may be restricted

only if

clearly causes direct

imminent harm

to an important social in

so i wanted to ask some of the panel say do you agree with

sentiments of the a c l u here

or do you feel like

second

principal

is being abused

and if so

how in

and let's start with area

' a loaded question

beause

i think all of us

maybe not

leaning far left a the mo

have you

ok well then that then it's a problem across

that

far as i'm concerned

i've had

come

both

and i

even if i disagree with

i don't

special

i think

anything if i

good enough argument

twitch dreamer

stephen bonnel

the queen of controversial conversations

ariel scorcella

look how he stands

to overcompensate desny's becoming really self conscious lately

he's trying to look like a tougher guy i really got into his head you know i objectively got into that guy's head

he's trying to like appear tougher and fix his posture and

focus on his image and shit

you know what i mean you can tell dude i always notice that about him

when he's in like public events

you w you

and world wide renowned political shit talker nico house

and author author and video

essayist peter coff

all right

welcome to better discourse i' me your moderator brian edward

andday our panel is democracy dies with dorsey

that's

meant to be a little bit funny

because some of that

censorship is coming from social media

but i

i did hear

quote

when you tear out a man's tongue

you're not proving him a liar

you're only telling the word i'm still mad about the buck involve the thing i'm goaning to be honest i'm still mad

i'm st so mad about it

i'm just thinking about it right now

and i'm fucking outraged about it you know

i'm so fuckin outraged i've never been this mad and so fuckin long i can't get out of my fucking head dude

can they really just not admit i'm right

can they really just admit that i'm right

i think they're trying to like sa oh haws are still trying to say

that the urethra isn't a separate hole that's not what i'm saying

i'm saying i just made the fucking error of calling the volvo the vagino

which is a simple error to make another person did it and no one cares

i don't care

about how many fucking holes there are right at this point i just care

but getting to the bottom of why fucking people are piling on me so much about this shit

it's not because what i did was embarrassing it's a very common human error

the just refer to the volva as a whole as the vagina and every one knows the vagina as a whole

so obviously the volb was also a hole too

you're just referring to the whole thing you know

you might not specify its parts

why is this such a fucking issue you know

why is is such a fuckin issue man

not even denying the urether was a separate hold in the fuck and vaginal orifice

all i did was refer to the volva

as a whole

by containing

wever i just referred to the volvo and i called the volvo vagina

and then

i got fucking gaslighted thinking i made some huge embarrassing mistake

then this girl on twitter made the same fucking mistake we brought on latina she told us she made the same fucking mistake so women are making the same mistake i did too

you know i mean i don't fucking can some one explain to me what the i'm so fucking mad about it though you know

because they pile on me like not one person in those coatwets not one

balking person can just be like you know what hous is right and the one person who did that after they found out about me politically they deleted their tweet

it's so fucking unbelievable i'm still mad about it you know i'm still fucking mad about it

it's traumatizing you know how pt is d

yeah women are virsins if they don't know the exact anatomy of the human reproductive system

women don't even know how their own shit works

and i'm sure to be a fault

for not specifying the fuck in your rethroat whatever

the separate holes

am a sec mchs away was mand

the empressm where well a right tankers thek hao tankers they get us sollalonano stang in there w amt there not ja the i hand to get ifak a look at the ma

thatyao seecdmy sad he yes i th i go some od to go see go see us i am but ma may be seen a b you know i'm going to make it

i'm going to make a tweet you me a secon i'm actually going to make a tweet

i'm making a tweet right now

i'm going to eat something

i'm going to tat something right now

i'll never

don't to forget how full of ship

political

left to twitter

denye

we're almost a week

i was seriously

starting to accept

that maybe

i did say something unspeakable or embarrassing

on kiana show given

the reaction

then when my political enemies say

reveal

they

f

making the same mistake far is too long

leftist revealed

they are

think the same

thing

w

too long

were almost

a week

i was almost gaslated into thinking

that the technical mistake

i made is extremely ba embarrassing

cancel a goal

and

unspeakable

now i see a bunch of dip shfts

on twitter

same ones you canceled me

bea sre

do this

same mistake

i'm going to add to it

's not going to be good it's not going to be the only thing

the fact i get piled on

filed on and they double down

we're not

knowing

basic

talking

not one person in

the coqurties

tonight

add the fulk in honesty

just to admit

that i was right

only one person

you say

at the

jina

aren't the same

that the revagina is only

is

just one whole

and doesn't

contain bles

that soun stupid

i'm going to say this

after they found out about politics

they deleted their tweet

one

falcking believable

on falking believab

ons

falking but i'm never going to

fuck and

get that shit

i'm never gonn to

get out dicoting in dishonest these fulking people are

i'm never going to fuk and forget that shit man i'm actually fuking pissed now

i'm actually so fucking mad now you know

so

walking man

park in book

i'm acting

well

yes

is

there's no fucking debate

these people

are just

s honest

and the truth is

it is as revealed by tonight

even

most of the women

who were attacking me

don't

even

n

aren't really knowledgeable about

theyir own falking anatomal

walking anoth ofy

whoth it is

my mistake

wasn't even a big

on keano show

it was not

even a big deal

it's such an

extremely

common falking human error

that even women maye

referring to the

as the vagina

them

and when they were called out

on its

they literally doubled down

talking proving

that's it another falcons

i can't say it i'll give that

that's it

i fogk in one

there's no debate for arguments anymore

i'll take the flock

fok in dorbin

so fodk and unbelievable

i'm so fuck and angry man

i was supposed to talk in

fuki believed it was somehow shameful or

embarrassing

meanwhile literally

i scream shoted the names of every single person

mm

try to pile on me

as if i said something wrong

in saying they

when i correct it

on tonight

you

you look so funy stupid

beyond the threshold of recovery

and i'm

actually embarrassed

for

let me flucking look this up for

the link i was looking at

in case you need

in education on this topic

they youre ethro and

vagina

i both

inside

within the wall

i made the technical mistake on kiana's show

only the volgo the vagina

n

cancel

others did the same shit

i called them out

and people act like i am

wrong

athletic i'm wrong but

i am wrong

w com on

and wide the fok

was i cancelled in the first

please

why did you make a big deal

when you are literally

making the same

small

meaningless technical mistake that i made

what is the falking point

you look so fucking stupid

holy fath

n need see pinthed about it man

i'm actually falking pierce

caet funking believe this shit

look now i'm losing my fuck in mind guys can someone explain this to me can someone fucking explain this to me this guy goes you should be embarrassed not because you don't understand of me because you're falking moron but why

why

i literally i literally me saw you how falking stupidness is it it driving me falking insane

let me show you what i was dealing with

let me show you what i was falking dealing with

literally look at this literally look at this you're not even going to falking believe it you're not even going to falking believe it when i just went on to show you right now

look at this

this dude was responding to me

okay

and i he goes the your rethroat isn't part of the volva you falking clown

this is the this is an article from

the ncbi is a very credible source

there's no pictures or whatever so we're good

let me just show you read this out to he

revolver

is a global term that describes all the structures that make female external genitalia

the components of the bover are this this this this this whatever

the urethro and the vaginal opening

okay

and i just want to show you why i'm being driven insane right now because

this person went the anthrea isn't part of the volvo you fucking clown

then

t's let me show you how many focking he literally ratioed me by saying that

he literally ratioed me he literally ratioed me i got five lights and he got thirty two

i said no i just didn't speci my dier parts of the boba and treated as one whole sum me who fucking cares

thereth re isn' park you me would not

smart people cat

o

two

god damn mother foqers

be mother fumpers

g w all the s

for pople

oh apparently being ignorant about female anatomy is the worst and most embarrassing thing in the world you could possibly falking do except these peoplealking don't know anything about female anatomy and one is calling them oup for it trying to say oh this is embarrassing oh de this is so embarrassing oh you must be a virgin oh my god you'

ever seen a person in your life this is so i parising no one's telling that to this guy even beadsuking wrong about this

mmhmm

but when i make the mistake

i didn't even say this on kiana show when i said all i did was refer to the volva

in general that's all i fulking did

i didn't say something so fucking moronically wrong that the your rethroat isn't part of the folva technically i wasn't even wrong

all you could say is all what well wth the fo was not actually a whole ok if you don't want to treat it like a whole

then don't i'm not going to falking

care

but technically i really wasn't that i wasn't that wrong right

i mean yeah it sounded wrong i looked bad clearly because technically obviously the rethrow the basin orifice are separate

okay i get it

right

so i was like okay that must be really embarrassing that i got that mistake wrong but these people on twitter the same ones

who literally every minute of the falking day are attacking me over this shit

a literally are literally saying more embarrassingly stupid shit

about female anatomy and nobody calls them out for it and i'm getting ratioed and piled on

for telling the fucking truth

why you in secure about a racio because these people are trying to tell me that racio means they're telling the truth and i'm lying and that they're right and that i'm wrong

right

bma garne colleges so is this person right is the you rethrog not part of the volva

you stupid fox

no i'm not goninga fuk and feel better i'm still fucking mad

i'm still fucking mad about it

i'm still falking mad all these foking people on twliitter such fuking lis it's all political tibsm nothing i even didm brasing it's so fuking common for people to make that funking mistake but this guy's doubling down on it after being falking called out at least on kan a show i was like yeah i agree with you separate i said that on her show when i was called on

and i was like yeah i just meant the the whole thing i thought they're all part of the same

ah volvo i didn't use the word volvo but i was like the vaginal complex yeah it's an embarrassing word i didn't i didn't have the word for the volvo at the time

i was trying to talk about the verb i was baskly trying to say that the urethra and the vagina are part of like the same

structure which is they call it the volv i just thought it was i didn't even know what it was called the the vaginal complex the clitorial vaginal complex i didn't know what it was fucking called

but i knew they're part of the same structure

they're part of like the same within the fucking labos or whatever within the fucking lips they're part of the same fucking thing

and i just made that mistake and i get canceled by five thousand people about it

but guess what

when this person says this i get ratioed i get ratioed

ya ill l ya ill sim at yahot sharamuta ya si at yahot sharhamuta yahot sarhamuta so falking shit

thatse damn stupid folkes

look at this stupid fuk

right here this bm fok stupid fok

that's what i said

i said

there are no holes in the vagina

there are at least five holes in their brother

lights

that twter that fking cancling me and i'm stupid and they're smart and i look so stupid and i'm so embarrassing and i can be so ashamed and i to be so embarrassed and i should quit my job and go live in the fucking woods and never sew my face again for making such an irredeemable error but this gy is literally

in't said anything the likechan arab said to a week

th aen getting a fat for a week

en

all those falking people acting like i'm wrong

what am i looking at

thirty four likes ninety six likes

what is wrong

he'd absolutely wrong

it's absolualely not so there are no rules inside of a focking vagina because it's a inside of the oa

what's heh talking about

he's absolutely wrong

i can't believe this i can't fulking believe i'm losing my fucking mind i was actually gaslighted

into thinking i made a big fuck up on kiana stream oh i should have never went on that stream i made a fuck up now i realize these people take

anything i falking do and make a mountain out of a falking murrill about it they'll take anything anything i falking do and make a mountain out of a falker murrill sit that they're literally guilty of themselves literally themselves falking guilty of

and meanwhile

i'm not even allowed to call these people ugly i can't

there's a lot of women talking shit about me i can't comment on their appearance i can't say shit i can't do shit

or else i get bad

right

but there're a logt to harass me twenty four seven

over nothing

right

these two extremers i'm talking about

the'se fucking d s say people whever the fock they are right

fuck and weeks i'm getting buck and piled on by this falk and mob

for what

what did i do that was so wrong

what i do that was so evil and wrong and by the way mother fukers

what would i do to preserve so much falking

triol and hate what i even funkin do in the first place h oh that shit i said to littleoy after she was talking shit non stop to me

welk up

cas i talked about the netflix of being fuck and parasites

ca' falcon believe this ship ma

vodborn donated ten dollars

only big ws from here aun out

these people really are borderline sociopathic children

they view political discourse as a series of clever gatchaes

i don't understand the gravity of whats at stk

it's mad

er

i can't foking believe

they haven't sut the fop up about it for a week so i'm thinking i did something really bad really unspeakable really just cancellble on recoverable and i was literally thinking like

we're to do know so funking wrong

and now these people

i am making an even worse mistake

and nothing happens to them

stupid

foxmn stupid

just look at this

look at look at this quote weweet for example this is actually a woman i presume right

oh my god

so let me get this striight

i went on kiana show

and revealed to every one

that

i am not

i am not

very keen on being terminologically exact

when i'm talking about female anatomy

i called the volvver a hohle right i called the volver the whole thing as one hole

i didn't specify the different parts of the holes within it i just said it's one big hole right with bunch of shit in it

better elpanada released the video

every single one of my enemies on twitter boosted it to the fucking moon like ten thousand likes or something

yeah i was asked how many holes do have below the waist i said two because i was calling the volvo the whole thing one hole right

whatever it was a technical mistake

it was a mistake i know it was a fucking mistake was a technical mistake

i'm like i'm repenting for what i did so evil right

whatever

this was like three months ago

i got like ten thousand people on my back because of it

harassing me non stop on twitter as if what i did was so embarrassing so unspeakable

and so fucking just unthinkable

fast forward

fast forward

broy why are you sweating here's more lies here we have more falking lies there is not even a single drop of sweat on my falking body right now you stupid lying pitch

but that's all you falking have is falking lies let's continue

let's continue

so

this person goes

you don't know how many holes a vagina has sit down and shut the fuck up

but wait wait a second

we all agree the vagina as a whole

right

the vagina is a whole we agree it is right that's what people call vaginas

they're holes

if you're saying there's holes within the vagina

you're confusing the volva with the vagina you're confusing the whole

with the thra and the vaginal orifice you're not distinguishing them

you're not distinguishing the fact that within the bob there's actually two holes you just referring to the whole thing as the vagina even though the vagina is only one part of it

whatess what

that's the same exact mistake that i made

so seeing this and by the way

two hundred nineteen kes by the way

at respond to it and i go

that's the thing i'm getting attacked for is calling the vallve of the vagina there's no holes in the vagina that's the point

the point is

the vaginas

one of the holes within the volva there's no holes within it

it's the vagina it's the vaginal orifice

it's a wll

there's no holes within it

i said if you didn' that a stupid technicality and i agree it's a stupid technicality

then you're admitting the drama about me is fuckin overblown

take the falcon out

i get ratioed

i get piled on in ratioed for saying this

when i wake up to morrow i'm probably going to wake up to ten thousand quote tweets

each one having

five thousand likes

when i wake up in the morning tomorrow

so you're telling me

that i went through

en was fulking harassment for a week

for making this most stupid technical meaningless error

but the same people who are making a big deal out of that

are being worse in them error that they're folking making

to the point

were it self evident

oh my god

what do you mean oh my god i'm right

i'm right it's the same reason you attacked me for

you stupid fuck

not allwase people since i have to address this now too

all these people who go

oh you asked a woman if she pes from her butt

a a lly i'll lay i'll l c and make your hout sharmuta ykus and make your hot sharmuta

i literally was confused about why i was being laughed at

so i was like

what what's what's what am i saying that's wrong are you trying to say you pee out of your butt

obviously a ridiculous self evidently wrong thing

which is why i said it i was expressing how confused i was

because clearly you don't pee out of your fucking butt

but apparently i was actually implying that they do p out of their but apparently because that's how twitter works right

i want one person

one person to step up and tell me i was wrong i just want one fucking person

to step up

and tell me i was wrong

one fucking person come step up

and tell me i was wrong one fking person tell me i'm wrong right now one foking person and defended fkn v c and the fend i could probably be bunken wrong right now

i am losing my falking mind right now

i

this is like smooking at the sky it's blue and people are saying no it's not blue it's not blue it's not blue

what do you mean it's not blue what the fack do you mean a sky's not blue

what room do falking live in

yesin you so you are saying

the o in the vagin are the same thing right

that's your argument

i'm never going to forgive these fucking people you know that right

i'm never going to fuck and forgive these people

i'm never going to forgive these fucking people i'm never going to fuck and forgive these people

d g g brigading

what's your link article

i don't see a link

i don't care if the the focking rigating

like i said what's that picture with all the fucking people vosh and every single one of them

the dude who alpaed you on the twitter quote tweet is willing to talk

brelli

wh who alphed me hah

who oupued me by beingy fuker wrong

let's see if they can keep the so called alpa up

let's see if they can keep it up

n v c get in my fucking discord

itn't be cen now

he's in a dist were he can't speak what's his name

it was his name

itive was his name

mods member them up

give them member

i can't do it for some fucking reason just give them member

who's this fucking guy again

who is he

who's this foking guyh

you guys are so funny you think that this is about whether it's two holes or three holes right

no it's fucking not at this point

it's about wether the mistake i made on tana show can justify the fucking reaction i got

and why it is that when people make the same falking mistake they're not held to the same falking standard

that's what it's fucking about i don't care if you think there's thirty five les in a fuck and pussy what i care about is i can justi by how much you've fuking bothered me for a week about something that happened three months ago which wasn't even a fucking big deal and the binsed by the fact that fking fans women on fukingter are making the same mistake that i did in not

distinguishing the falc and rover from a falcon vagina

let's bring this dumb fock on

hello

who were you

goodye

yeah

you're the du that you asked to help inm to your discord yeah who are you on twitter

o hold my on twitter yeah

entre themaus on twitter

ok what did you quote to me saying

was it oh you ca me say

you said something you said something about my friend sam and i can say i'm going to talck about sam i don't give a shit about sa ca calm down cale down yes i don't i'm not going to fuck and calm down i'm not going to fuck and calm down anthony let's get to the ot let's get to the bottom of it is that a common technical error well is a common technical error that p call shut the buck up shut the fuck up he shout the buck up my show beach show me now beach

nw you in the case of a falcon gorilla the falcon like ser stupidsy let's get to the funkon bottom of this it a common technical error for people to refer to the falkon a as the vagina

what

is it a common technical error for people to refer to the volva as the vagina

i mean i don't know maybe i guess is it maybe ok i don't know if i would ok ok ok it i don't know if i so you' know aware of all the people on you're aware of all the people onre askingare all the people on twitter who say asking me the to shu on if it's so you ask me the question because you want to talk over me like you ask me i ask you a question you said i don't know so we're going to move on

since you don't know we're going to see why i don't know because i'm saying i'm saying i don't know because i don't know that

that many people that i've spoken to personally

have made that mistake however i you friend what's your friend's name i

what's your friend's name on twitter

my friend's name is sam but sam give me their to give me the to i'll see if they made this error right now

they didn't make any error she was making fun of you me

she didn't make any error quote tating me right now when i was fucking right by distinguishing the volg in the vagina ok that's ok all i was trying to say was was i was actually i was actually trying to i was trying to give you some credit here what i was trying to say was

i

is it often that somebody will

oh

i the woman's vagina the vagina when they remain the vulver

yeah i mean i i suppose so i could i could see that being eas yeah okay

so

so i went on kiana' stream and that's what i did

ok

but

ten thousand people thought that that was the most embarrassing and ridiculous thing in the world

so clearly it's not a common technical error right

i mean we betle make here's the thing but the thing about twitter is that you know it's a it's a cruel and unforgiving world you know i don't care it's cruel or unforgiving

i want to know if it can be justified at this point that's what i want to know

i don't know about i don't know about justified i think i think i think i think people i think people were very eager to dunk on you

just to make you the main character of the day

that's been that's been for a few weeks now it was ma was for y yeah it so so they've been looking for anything and this is what they found

but

so i'm going to if you're watching my stream right now

yeah i'm watching watch my stream

y

okay

you so i'm goaning to show you something like the whole hold i'm going to ask you question would you like to be on video so we can actually talk face to face

go shert

put your video up

i'm going to show you some of your

no but like in in this chat that we're in right now right

yeah so i want to show you something i want to show you some so here's what i said i want to show you what i just said right

and i just want to see confirmed deny who's wrong and who's right in this encounter right

are you a gnaecologist that's what you were saying

me am ia go to college a yeain

no

okay well let's see let's see this

so

law the thing i'm getting attacked for on the agina there are no holes in a vagina that's the point so this smart guy

who race showed me he got a hundred and twelve likes he went

there are at least five holes in their brother

y

i think he was i think he was joking though i think he was really just o he was just joking

yeah yeah yeah but i think but but but i was wrong right

and he was right in this encounter right

no like

ok when he says there are at least five holes in their brother i think he's so can you explain to me why doesn't he get cancelled and ratioed an attack

for making this clear anatomical error

because there are not five holes in the fucking vagina

it's just not falking true maybe he's never seen a pussy in his life

to say something like that

and he's bracioing me and everyone's saying he's right and i'm wrong

and i by the way he's not just joking because on twitter he was calling me an insult and calling me all these fucky names saying all this shit so it's clearly not a fucking joke

okay

no i mean like uh i

i'm not disagreeing with you i think that people were dog poling on you to make you you know a joke and frankly i also think that you know

and i'm guilty of this myself i'm as guilty as anyone don't even like i literally don't on you today so don't

let me come across like i'm trying to get myself off the hook here

i think that people use twitter as a pressure valve and you know when they find somebody vulnerable that they can you know create a dog path for

they will absolutely so you're saying they're just doing itsling do' even do it so you're saying it's just trolling there's no like there's not even any degree of seriousness behind it right

i mean like you know when when i when i quote feeted you there wasn't really much seriousness ok to do istin you was alin me why i literally have people writing me paragraphs trying to explain to me the anatomy of a fucking posi being really serious and saying so here's what i don't understand

why is it that when i was on kiana stream which is a completely casual meaningless unserious thing

everything i said adverbatim is being treated as something serious and yet

i'm supposed to i'm supposed to not treat the overwhelmingly

a negative and hostile responses imt to not treat that serius that's just the joke too

right

it's not a smear campaign

it's just that it's just a joke and

and it's just everyone having a laugh

over nothing even though

i myself wasn't even serious on that fucking show if it's not serious how come after a week

people are still bothering me about it

tell me what they're bothering me about

what mistake that i made that so fucking agregous and unspeakable

i do think that i

i think that because you take yourself very seriously

ok been am i not understanding the joke because

it happened on three months ago

he got five thousand likes

and

i'm still being bothered about it why noo i get it i think what is what the people want for me what do they want for you what do you want to say do you want me to answer you or do you want to just go ahead

hear yourself talk all right

so

i think that because you take yourself very seriously and a lot of people

on do i take myself that seriously

mean like you you come across like you do why did i go on jiana show then

was that a serious show

uh i will say that you know we we had a

we had a comprehensive breakdown of your interaction with kana

and i will say man like

she she put together a master class on improv

in your interaction

ok

but was it serious was was i se it was i going on to a debater and pontificated i think serious political and intellectual

matters i think you were

i think you were joking in such a way as you were trying to be deprecatory to her

but also be a bit goofy yourself

but the thing is i think also because she's somebody who

you know i mean she screamed she stcreams wearing scanty outfits and whatnot and i think a lot of guys think that you know women who who are in that niche of streaming

are also not very smart but she's a very smart person

ok

but what does that happen with what does that have to do with a point what a point is ho how is it that i take myself so seriously

when i'm wi i'm dancing i'm doing dm i'm telling jokes all the times i'll explain for you if you let me finish ok so what i'm trying to say here is that like you were trying to you know

i be a bit of a goofy character while also poking fun at her

and yeah he down asking her like you know you know yes submit and she t so what yeah but that's ok but that's the other thing so like she's also i think

im

women who are in that position who don't get taken seriously because you know they stream in you know scanty outfits

she's had to learn how to fight back and to be like you know verbally

like

short

and so what you were trying to do to her she was also doing yeah yeah yeah i diet it but what she was better at doing ok ok but if i if if but i wasn't taking myself that seriously

and i don't take myself that seriously in general

on which

except when it comes to

things that piss me the fuck off like this

where for a week i was actually questioning whether what i did was actually really shameful

and embarrassing and whether i should be ashamed about it

but now that i see how little people know about the anatomy of the even women don't even know their own shit

ok

why should i feel bad about it why should i feel ashamed

why di they try to shame me about this when very even worse than me

but here's the thing

maybe you shouldn't feel bad it maybe it was just an honest mistake and you know everyone can get let it go

we i've been srying i've been srying for a week

but i'm still being bothered by every single day and by the way i'm not just being bothered by it by like random commenters on twitter whatever but huge accounts with tens of thousands of followers

every single day can't let it go and i just don't get it i'm not seeing what they're seeing i'm like i'm trying to put myself in their head and be like ok if i was from their perspective and i saw this happen

what i think it's like the craziest thing in the world or

like was it just this extremely shameful unspeakable thing and the the more i think about it the

the more i'm struggling to understand why it's such a big deal to the point where like

people are losing their fuck and minds about it

it's like this happened three months ago

right

and it resurfaced ok it resurfaced but it still

people

can't get over it so i'm trying to understand why they can't get over it

when and this is the cherry on top

ok because that's been me for the past few days now tonight i realize how poor

basic knowledge of female anatomy is

among women too especially among women even

now i'm trying to sae i think what was it all for what would if they have

ha even more poor knowledge of this shit than i did

what was all this shit that i was receiving for what was that all for then

i think turns out really turns out there was nothing embarrassing about what i fucking said on kana stream

i think women generally do know their own anatomy

but then why are so many quote reading me

what listen the women that are puortrating me here

i'm not saying women in general i'm saying the specific ones

you are disagreeing with me about this

how could you literally be a woman

bail your own anatomy

and then try to be mad at me because i made a technical terminological error three months ago on kiana stream

ill tell me how that makes sense

i don't know if i'd call it a technical or terminological error i think you just fucked up like

you know you got it wrong big deal it was a technical terminological error i referred to the volva as a whole ok it's not a whole apparently no one thinks it's a whole it is and

but at the same time that they don't think it's a hole people as you just admitted i'm literally showing it on screen

confuse the volva for the vagina and everyone knows the vagina as a whole

how could you confuse the volva for a vagina and then go ahead and say oh it's ridiculous that you could refer to the volva as a whole whenever one knows the vagina as a whole

so what am i missing here right and you know you know if people had honesty they would admit this and i don't even know if you have the fucking honesty to admit this

ninety five percent of men when they watch the video

were themselves surprised and didn't know afterwards they just pretended like they knew to join in on dunking but the truth is even a lot of women didn't even fuck and get it

i literally brought on some one earlier on the stream to day

who didn't who didn't even specify that it's to get video now so we can actually talk face to face

okay

so you are you the guy with the suit

suit yeah on twitter yeah i was wearing the suit

okay

yes

hold on

so you're that guy with eighty thousand followers

that's me yeah

so what's your issue with me

in general what's your issue with me

i don't have an issue with you

why is your knee jerk response to me one of hostility i don't even know who you are

i looked at your twitter and said you're a marxist

the solonist evers aliness that's sliness yeah from the haitian revolution so what's your issue in there

i don't i said i don't have an issue with you

but why is there a problem between us

i don't have a problem with you that's what i'm trying to say

but you're tweeting at me in an extremely hostile way

and with an extreme level of hostility

so look look ok so i'll go back and i'll go back and look at exactly what i said you know if you want to go over that together i'm very happy to do that because

to be honest like tting abot me a lot actually multiple tweets

yeah we because yeah because you were talking my friend

you know with your friend again i don't th that

ah my friend is sam

sevent pen

ah samajammas

sammy let me look this personal she's the one that she's the one that tweeted at you and she was in lingerie

sammy you tweeted at me before her you talking about the

the girl who n no no no no the only the first time that i ever tweetd at you

no he we did up about me before then

onhe did it twad about you before that

some i might have like

i might have tweated some screen shots and shit about me you you no i teated a screen shot because i was and i said here's what i said here's what i said i said i've been on here too long man

ok that's all i sayd sa sama jammas is that's the person from today right w gave me there

ok sok want to try to say that was a way was i attacking them

hell the let me

ok my first interaction with you is what i'm trying to say my first interaction with you

was is when you said something about sammy right

now i did i did tweet that the

i

the video that you had with with kiana

i said like you know that's a complete breakdown it's like listen if you want to if you want to completely like own a chud you know if you just want to like you know you want to like totally deconstruct somebody i've never what's a shot what's a chotay

we just you know just a person who's like loud and brash you know what i mean you know somebody who's jt like a

yeah

did you know that people from my cultural background are like this

what's your cultural background i was in armenian

no i'm leveanew lebanese yeat we're very loud and brashed of the were bros i know i'm very familiar with lebanese people i just you didn't atras as lebanese

well that's how we are actually

we're not we're not we're not

we're very passionate and loud and and brash as you saying i don't know as a as a

as a whole i wouldn't say that like all lebanese are not all of us see but you know that's the main that's the mainstream that's most

sure sure

so yeah

so ok i'm a chud

so let me ask you a question

so when i made a tweet and i basically said all of my haters are ugly whatever right

yeah yeah yeah

so this person's tweeting as some sit you know what to be honest that's some shit that i would say you know yeah i was s but then this person's like weeding at me

who i don't know sama jammas whatever

trying to say that they actually ca you but ok but hold up but they do it right you set yourself up thg because if you're going to say you listen all my haters are ugly right

yeah if if she doesn't like you for whatever reason

now

sam she's fine assell like that's not even a question

you know so you did kind of set yourself up

well first of all everyone has their own preferences

but second of all no no no i want you to put her picture up on stream right now no is probablyan it's probably you i'tan like i don't want you to lob it's some you was'ys love its you look look it's not a toss it's not alook ill do i caln tell you dude is that the girls that i interact with here on wwitch

a that are normies that are not on the plan no no no no no no no no right listen s the normy grols the normy girls that i interact with it's t bit to the chat fam listen ok for political for political like d s a or whatever i guess so

but anyway

what do you mean for political no i want anyway continuing

continuing

im

no no i listen i'm not i can't i'm not going to rate someone's looks everyone in their own way

is has their own inner beauty and because you sas your haters are ugly so virtu ok ok but here's the question here's the question right i don't know this person

and they're attacking me that's the truth they're attacking me right because if you're going to quote tweet that tweet

you're saying you hate me

you are a hater and you do in fact hate me right so they're attacked mey so i respond

and my response was extremely tame because i was basically in my response implying

no you don't really hate me right

i don't even know who this person is by the way keep in mind sama jammas

i don't know who the fuck they are

right

but you need this is who they are

ok

that's the sen

okay

now i you s i can't here you got to get rid of that because i can't keep that on stream it's not allowed

you can you can see you can yes you can show it like once but you can't keep it on stream

ok

all right you can't actually keep i'm pretty sure your chack got a glimpse your chack got a glimpse so yeah

ok well they can go check for themselves sama jammas on twitter all right

ok yeah you got to not do that again

i just i just wanted your cha i just want to yea yeah yeah yeah what we're talking you most dudes would obviously find her attractive

but so that t me you don't are you telling me like are you honestly telling me that you don't

i personally do not like to be honest i personally do not

i have my own preferences and i personally don't find them attractive

but

but personality also takes a big

something beig in to account for me too you know

maybe if my first immression i mean what we're made maybe of my first impression of them was different well then is whether you know your haters are ugly

you know what i mean yeah yeah but

here's the thing he ok here's the if somebody hold let me finish somebody who's not ugly then response to you right you can by the way you can pring me back upon your stream's just my it's like it's me mike my can it's just me

i won't do that again because you said not to do it all right

so if somebody who's not ugly response to you

and says okay but you know

i'm not a be so are you going to revaluate yourself now

ok you know and then you were you know

so then i then i respond in my own way you said then i go then i go ok so that's a weird way to show that you hate someone

by giving them these pictures

well

you said that they're all ugly and she's like well i'm not s ugly so what now

okay

yeah so then i responded in my own way how are they supposed to how are they then supposed to prove to you that a i hate you and b

and i'm not ugly

the question is why are they trying to prove to me that i hate them when i've done nothing to them now even know do know they are she's saying but i hate you

and yeah i agree

why why did she hate me

that's the point why would you hal

why would' you it why would you hate me for what ok

i ok personally i don't know because i don't have hatred for a lot of people i don't really have hatred for people that i've never met

it's not how i would have responded to you

yeah but she did for whatever was to me the way the way i was ok from my perspective it didn't seem like syo let me explain to my perspective because you just talked about her perspective shit some explain my ight from my perspective

it's hard for me to believe that this person hates me

rather than just trying to seek validation from me and test

whether i would call them ugly or not

because

i don't know this person as far as i'm concerned they have no reason to fuck and hate me and be it's really weird to go out your way to try to like gain validation by quote tweating that to me and proving something

so

from my perspective that legitimately alsos also it's also people who don't take them seriously like trolling you you know what i mean like i don't think she was trying to engage in a serious conversation with you i think she was just trolling you

you know when re's the thing is that after i basically told her i'm not interested

and humiliated her i don't think with her

well on hes aing yes i do yes i did i know listen i know for a fact i also and like you don't have to you don't have listen listen to i umiliated her that does

and this is auly true be if you don't have to be in a frame of mind where you're either dominating or being dominate listen list listen what ok well you can you can try to explain their feelings in a different way when i explain to their actions

after i told them hey i'm not interested

like you can buzz off and leave me alone

they spent the next several hours on twitter at like if you wan on the timeline probably ever almost every single tweet

it' is literally related to and it's about me if you go to their likes

probably it's the same thing right

i'm getting notfications left and right

they'd like this because they're a big god

twitter aco i'm trying to some really getting the notifications on my phone that they're doing right sand what you're saying are you saying like if i go to sammy's likes and whatever

yeah and their profile it's going to be about me

h

okay okay i'm looking at this right now oh yeah yeah it's all the responses to your tweet so yeah like so it i'm trying to understand if i tell this person

that i'm not interested and you know

take a shot yet so i'm not i'm not interested i want nothing to do with them

i think they got insulted and they took it to heart and they're lashing out now and now they really do have a hatred of the they took it to heart i think they're just clowning you you know like yeah i think that's a cop because someone who's clowning wouldn't get that upset and get so like furious to the point iere there'st fear like i mean how many i literally just responded to i am and moved on i didn't even interact with them

in any capacity after that i don't think she was upset or humiliated or whatever i think yeah i was just

clowning you know i think it seemed like she was really bitter and humiliated at the fact that i publicly basically told her

i'm not interested in her which is true i'm actually not

i am

i doubt that and she you doubt that i'm not interested in her

no no no i doubt that she felt humiliated or you know whatever it like

i mean nither of us can read her mind whole neither of us can read her mind but i was w why couldn't she just enjoy her so called w let me fins le me finish let me finish i was talking to her during those interactions and i will say that i

didn't get the impression she was upset or humiliated or whatever i think she was just she's obviously not going to show that

but her actions say the contrary

but you anyway you know i do i do kind of feel like my i know my friend better than you you know yeah yeah so well i know you're also going to defend your friend in public and make them look the best they can that's ok but no no no no you also have no i' n know hold up hold up i think anybody who knows me knows that if my friends are out of line i'll say so

you know and you're not going to say that in public in front of an enemy territory tp gy

yeah well

so so questions if my friends are if my friends are out of pocket even with somebody that i dislike i will say hey it's ok were they not out of pocket

do i think she was out of pocket yeah

no

no she was not a part of it attacking me coming after me or anything

i don't think she's attacking or coming after you ok what do you think i did you justifies her behavior of coming after me

ok so now if we're talking about like why it is that you know twitter as a whole don't know why she specifically since this is your friend

what right does she have should' even know who i am to hate you know what so but if you let me finish i'll gyet into

do why is twitter as a whole on your neck

since you know you had that last ag twitter

left to shorer yet

oka sure sirre sure sure all right

i think because

again it's like

character of the day syndrome and i also think that because you are like sort of like doubling down and trying to argue with people about it it's just like

all right we're going but these these people hated me the i don't know you understand how the g on a video got spread

these people hated me before then it's that very hatred

that fueled the spread of the kiana video itself they're basically saying

look at this guy that we all hate together

and he looks bad here and we're all going to celebrate the fact that he looks bad

so the question stands is what did i actually do to earn

so much of people's hatred

and a specifically that person's hatred ok i will say that i only you only sort of like

showed up on my radar in your interactions with luna

do know him

yeaa yea yeah

that's that's that's where like yeah you sort of like first s up my radar right and it's also because like i consider like theen as i'm friendly right so so what was the agreous crime i committed against en away

to justify all the hate

um

ok i barely remember what your interactions were because i don't really

yeah i when pe when other people have bad interactions with each other i don't make it my business

so i just saw that like you'd said something that at the moment and i don't remember what it was i was like ea i wass respectful and uncalled for but

i also kept it moving because loon is a grown woman and she can handle her yeah right

well what i'll tell you what actually happened was that

what i said

was the issue was about the so called socialist patriotism

the issue has nothing to do with supporting american imperialism american chalvinism has nothing to do with the

your stance in relation to the national self determination of groups within the united states

all it is is a simple position you can agree with it or you can disagree with it

that regardless of

agreeing that groups within the united states the black population indigenous people should have their own sovereignty and self determination something i agree with i have no issue with

the united states is still a country

and however many territorial concessions it has to make to in the name of the self determination of these groups

communists should seize hegemony over this country instead of

seeking its complete destruction and a

trying to sell the american people on are you familiar with the concept of revolutionary defeatism

yeah

ok

so um and i'm guessing that like if you're in the crowd that's you know all about uh you know h

patriotic socialism and so forth you know they they might have their interpretation of what that means

but what do you think that interpretation is for example my colleague if i can call him that i would i like to call m a friend

because i don't really work with them much except collaborating

caleb malpen has been on the front lines opposing american imperialism and

reaching out to the governments of iran russia and china and america's geopolitical and strategic enemies and the peoples of the world

and within america people like the nation of islam and farikhan people who are resisting and fighting american imperialism

unlike a lot of the people attacking this

came of moppin has stuck out his neck

he went to the protests to free alec sob whose a journalist was imprisoned

because of something in relation to iran he went to venezuela he's right now i think he's in mexico city right now

so kate my colleague caleb moptin

he is a revolutionary defeatist and yet he's in our camp and he still believes in

the fact that we should have a love of our country

and we should try to strive for what's best for our country

it's just that as mous said it's in the overwhelming interest

of the people and he was speaking during world war two at this time

of germany and japan

to be revolutionary defeatst so i'm just

i'm i'm just loridate why i am receiving so much hatred and hostility why we as a whole

are receiving so much hatred and hostility

when the only meaningful point of difference that we have

is we don't believe

that america as a country

has to be completely that communists should have their optics be we want to destroy completely america

um it dep okay well that's kind of a vague statement to say that communists want to destroy america completely i think

well the issue is that i rejected the idea that

all of the land within the united states from seaboard to seaboard

has to be completely given to indigenous tribes

i disagreed with that point

i don't i'm don't have a problem with indigenous tribes

having more land and having more self determination

and having

treaties on or what do you s what do you think it what do you think it means for you know for indigenous people to be given land back like what do you think that means and what do you think would be the outcome it means they will have

land that is appropriate for their interests and demands their actual their own demand but what you know what i'm asking is what do you think

ok what do you think in

maybe a better way to put it yeah what do you think that they mean when they talk about supporting and back like what do you think that indigenous authors have varied in their demands and their interpretations there's an ingenous ofthor in canada who said

we don't even want to have political separation from canada we just want

our own autonomy want our own land want our own rights to the resources and economic foundations

a far as i am familiar with

but names three underscand but yeah but the mainstream representatives of the indigenous tribes

their demands are actually extremely modest i haven't found one

that actually wants to secede from the united states now but here's the thing

i am willing and i have no issue united states because their territory it's but they're not even they're not even close to demanding that it's not even what they're asking for they're just asking what

they're just asking to have they

you're just having stri you're just

they're just asking to have a sovereignty over what they have now and and maybe have more like for water access and to stop pipelines from coming in and have economic self determination and sovereignty over their land but here's what you're not listening to and you have to really let me finish here

i am not even against indigenous people seceding and having their own country completely sovereign state the reason i'm interrupting is not because i think it you know i don't want to hear what you're saying

because i do

i

i just want to be clear on something when you say secceding like

i you know first nation's

can't secede because the

they are on sovereign territory so there's no secession

because their territory

yah isn't

part of the united states that partf they haven't expressed that it's their aim to

be a completely different sovereign state

sure but there's a difference between the state and the nation

you know what i mean so

we have in

north america you know literally hundreds of nations but we have

dozens of states

thank

so the

they should know i mean by sovereign state i don't mean like

part of the united states i mean like a totally different country

like

t the us will have no jurisdiction or sovereignty over it

when you say a country a country is a state so i'm trying to say want to try to like

just make clear so that we're on the same page

on we have hundreds of nations but only x amount of states

so when you say secede

you can't secede from something that you don't belong to already so first nations

because they're on sovereign territory

they are by definition not part of

the united states they don't have forll they don't have full political sovereignty

right now no they don't know yet no absolutely not

so

that's what i'm trying to say if they want to demand full political sovereignty and much more territory than they have now

i have no issue with that

i just disagree with the idea that one hundred percent of the land with and i've debated about this before

within the united states

needs to be completely given to two percent of the population

no not given

and so here's the way that that works

i

like are you are you familiar with how the

i

lands concessions were one from indigenous people

in the united states or in canada sort for example like are you familiar with the treaty of fort laramie or are you familiar with like uh the stone fort treaty that sort of thing like are you are you familiar with how

these treaties were

drafted and and fulfilled

they were violated

well i don't they're violated yes that's abtually true but are you familiar like with what the process was for developing them

yeah but that was at a time

in which

those places were not already settled and populated and people weren't already indigenized there

so indeed these were talking about vast swaths of uninhabited land

that were given in these treaties

right ok and so you see the issue with doing that again

lies in the fact no no hold up hold up now we' got to we' got to we got to make something clear because i don't want to step over anything ok

so are you are you familiar with the concept of userfrucht

refresh my moset

use of frot is basically

the the

the right and the ability to live off of the avails of

the land property etc right so to enjoy like

on

use in common

o for example

yeahr f now i know it mean i know it means

ok so let's say we i just want to make sure that like you know even your chat and my chat are clear on this ok so let's say i have an apple tree growing in my backyard right

and

you want to share the use of my apple tree so you say a o

i'm going if if you if you let me pay you

x amount of dollars

can we enjoy mutual use of this apple tree like you can pick apples from it you ca pick uples from it

okay cool

so you're you're not you don't own the apple tree

on the apple tree is like property in common that i can enjoy the use of and you can enjoy the use of yeah right

ok so what a lot of people areund the impression

that the way that these treaties were supposed to have been designed and carried out

was that

i

you know the dominion of canada

i

signs a treaty with

first nations

in what is now modern day on manitoba

and

the the use of the property

transfers from

those first nations

two

the dominion of canada

so the property is moving hands from one group of people who own the property to another group of people who own the property

but that's actually not

white

the treaties were intended to do or at least not from the first nation's perspective

from their perspective

they were signing a treaty which is how they'd been signing treaties with each other

for hundreds and

possibly thousands of years prior to that

is that hey if you want to

trade with us gifts in exchange for another

we will have mutual use i get itject of l this was a cd so what i'm going to say is lt what land back would refer to

is

reverting

land not to the private ownership

of first nations groups

but more so that there would be the ability to commonly enjoy that property which is under their stewardship so that's a yeah i get that i get that as fm but the only issue i see as far as that's concerned

and i don't necessarily have a problem with that

on on face value but the problem is what what does that mean does that mean in what way is this land being used today so back then

land was being used for very specific purposes right in indigenous people at that time and they're very different now indigenous people are not

living the same way that they used to

they were living all of us re the land when acturing this name way they used to

they were living off of the land right

we don't mean to live off land naturally

it means for example to not engage in the development of the forces of production and engage in the extraction of minerals and that's not

that's not true

why not

that isn't true

explain like the is that it's not like you' like to say that uh you know there was no

on like use or atraction of resources or there was no there was no use of modern science to intervene with nature in such a way

so as to learn according to whom

well i'm talking about modern science i have i am from a i am sympathetic to the declonial perspectives which critique modern science and

the european pat paradigm in relation to natural i know about all of that ok but

the issue is we have to recognize it is a thing industrialization is a thing that specific relationship to nature

in which the development of the forces of production occurs

which is a modern ohenomena this was whatenomena of developing the forces of production

is strictly modern now

now forces of relations and forces of production

have changed historically including four indigenous people

but the specific

aim political aim of developing them is a modern phenomenon

o

going out of your way to develop the forces of production

to me

what is intrigral

to communism and socialism is the development of the forces of production right i kind of feel like what you're saying is that these are primitive people and you're not in that's not what i'm saying well i no no that is not good i'm saying

so if i'm if i'm if i'm mistaken i just want to like

can we be clear as to what that means when you say that uh you know they don't live the way that they used to and that yeah you just consult just consuler in science

sure yeah i just consult the declonial consensus

which is in the academi and the universities

before the europeans

indigenous people do not possess a relationship with nature

that gave rise to industrialization and the exploitation of resources and the kind of a

well nobody did because industrialization came after colonialism it didn't like sure europeans didn't bring industrialization with them sure but they didn't give rise to what we call modernity and modern capitalism and the standardization of the commodity form and the universe and its corresponding universalization and

the extent to which exchange value and labor could be extracted

to the point of being elevated over all determinant in particular instantiations and forms that there could arise something like abstract nor the course of human value in general and the abstracts the human development doesn't necessarily have to go through the process of industrialization like that's what i

under a socialist

framework

yes in the realization yes here's the things right was i'm i'm somewhat let me let me finish let me finish so what i'm saying though is that it's not

the sort of like the default natural mode for humans to go

i

through a process of industrialization in many cases industrialization isn't necessary because people already have with what they need without having to

i

you know extract resources in one area assemble them into finished products in another area and then distribute them throughoutver the the

the boundaries of that particular nation or state are that's not necessarily nok listen listen i

the reason i'm just trying to cut you off is because i'm familiar with this perspective

okay i've been doing this for many years

so i'm very familiar with the view that

yes it's a eurocentric view of linear progress that

some people are more privative and required to undergo modern capitalist industrialization

i i to an extent i agree with that in the sense that i don't agree that it should be forced on anyone right

but you have to keep in mind

that and this is just evident in works like the communist manifesto

this is not a perspective shared by marxism from the marxist perspective

modernization and modern industry is an irreversible and inevitable and necessary

a challenge humanity must pass through and must face

this is why that's us because that's because of where we are now like i get what you're saying but yes really but that you wunderstandan that this is basically there were reactionary forms of socialism that wanted to avoid english industrialization and preserve the agrarian bonds and it's kind of agrarian socialism

mean marks and angles distinguished themselves the reason they elevated the proletariat is the privileged

revolutionary class was precisely because they opposed that view they did think

it was something it was something inevitable and necessary

and whatever and then

this is actually why the communist parties are

gained power and endured in the soviet union in china because they fulfilled this promise of being able to modernize their countries

on terms different from the regular capitalist course of development

so but i can agree with you on the view that

there is no need for industrialization or modernity to be imposed on peoples

that don't need it or don't feel like they need it right

so i completely agree with that

i might be sceptical about the idea that the majority of indigenous people would not want to participate in the development of the forces and i didn't i didn't say that yet

but i din't say ok we like i'm not going to speak for any indigenous people because yeah i'm not bus this myself i just go by you know what i read and what i hear from indigenous comrades etc right

so what i understand that to mean

's not that like property simply reverts and then you know we now move from

and being underneath the yoke of capitalism under you know cent republicanism or constitutional monarchy as we have in canada that's where i am

but we revert to a form form of custodianship and stewardship under indigenous sovereignty

it's not as though like we're i don't know in danger of all being like

ordered or whatever

but simply that treaties are honored

and that you know the the way that

the way that we administer

uh property the way that we even

think of property

and that refers to

indigenous notions of how

land

property

resources etc are allocated and shared

yeah but the issue for me and this is where i do have an issue i can and i can already identify two issues i have with this one

um

concentrating sovereign land ownership in the hands of a minority of a few people

is not going to work

in any country whatsoe but it's not ownership that's the thing you're thinking about it as ownership n know what listen listen you can think about it as anyanship it yet custodianship sovereignty however you want i'm not saying that it's not i me i'm not saying i'm not saying inded that the plan is to deport all these people or

kick them out or to do malicious evil things thing but just from a formal level of them being able to

have such an extent of sovereignty over the land that it

can't be

but but it belongs i mean it's it's theres i guess all right though but but right now it's not theirs is the issue it's not

right it'm being used right now if for reasons

zus

it's not right now there's right you can say that it rightfully belongs to them and we could

disagree about that

but

and if we're talking by the way about all of the land mass of the american continent i'm not talking about

you know the idea of them having their own land or more of their own land i just

reject the idea that all of it

and this is really what i wanted to get to is because

the marxist view about owning the comments right

is specifically in regard to the development of the forces of production the commons are used for the purpose

the sight of commons in the communism of marxism

is itself the development of the forces of production that is what is in common that's the common aim of the state

it's the purpose of the state it's the

role of the party this is true in china it was true for the soviet union and every other communist state

that's if you don't have that you have a non marxist version of socialism or communism

which is going toly nice and ie you something though like when you say for example you say that you know you know we own it and that you know they're the minority of people are you familiar with are you familiar with the immgert versus oklahoma case

yeah

okay

so you realize that like

the eastern half of oklahoma more or less reverted to indigenous consodianship

okay

whch yeah i talked to rainer saw about this i don't think that's a political to the entire country

well

what if it was

well it's the reason it's not is youause you know before before the before the court ruling like nobody on the eastern haif of oklahoma at least the you know the majority of like white people who live there

i thought that it

it it was or should be under indigenous castoliianship and yet the united states supreme court said

yes it is

well first of all the indigenous form of custodianship that was ruled in that case in no way is the ideal form that is being striven for by leftist because indigous people still do not have real political sovereignty over eastern oklahoma

second of all eastern oklahoma

is relatively sparse in terms of population density relative to the rest of the country and currently eastern oklahoma

was not or is not being used economically

you being used economically it's not being used economically in for the development of the forces of production or anything like that it's not being it's not like an intrigal part of the economy that it has to be used in that

this has to be conceded to indigenous people it's just

so you're telling me that like everything east of oklahoma city is not being it's just like barren land

well it's

not decisive or economically important enough

to that

these american states you understand that like like

uh the like the tulsa oklahoma metro area

yeah

is under it actually reverted to

indigenous csodianship so you're telling me that telsa is not

being used

i didn't say it wasn't being used i said it wasn't being used economically in such a way that would make

that would make giving it to indigenous sovereignty detrimental to the u s economy or to the economy of oklahoma

i don't think that the court ruled that on the basis of whether it would be they didn't but if you ok so you are a matter of but listen and you're all you're probably an extremely cynical guy when it comes to the real motivations of the u s government's actions

rather than the formally apparent one so you know very well

that if it was going to be economic detrimental to profits and these industries and corporations they would not have ruled

in the way that they did the reason they ruled in the way that they did was precisely because it wasn't

ah so big of a threat

economically speaking

so i mean i guess so like you could you could say well you know it's not costing it's not costing you could you could it's not costing like a bunch of people their jobs and livelihood it's not it's not

red it's not good to say that but i mean

you could also i mean the reasoning of it is laid out in the justice yeah but you know very well that and i went to law school for a year and i'm still on leave so i'm probably going to go back in yar

you know very well that the apparent reasoning courts give

for the decisions that they come to are very different from the objective material factors

that actually are behind

the reasons why they rule in the way they do courts don't rule

based on what the reasons they say they do right we know that

so mean not ah ya not always i mean that it depends you know depends on like which

judge happens to be the one offering the opinion but sure yeah

yeah

so

so here's the thing though is that the

yes so

that's why i don't think it could be applied to the whole the country but second all this is the really important part no i'm not saying that it i'm not saying that it would be what i'm saying though is that like

your idea that you know

giving land over to a minority of the u s population

would be unworkable and i'm saying ok well

land like was it something like like

t to have three million acres was reverted to basically like the ownership of yeah but i sc was like five or six different rights different but i already specified the reasons why it wouldn't be a political

to the rest of the country because the rest of the country

has characteristics that are not in common with eastern oklahoma such as

areas of land and territories that are economically strategically and so on and so on important

for people's livelihoods for industries and for the development of the forces of production in general

so

that would be my argument and also things like population density just the amount of people that are already living there

things like that so

that's why i saying it's not just the fact that you have a case in which

you have white people living somewhere and suddenly other people have sovereignty over their territory

it's also these other factors that i'm mentioning but regardless

my main point is

from a marxist perspective

owning land in common is about the development of the forces of production

and

if in the if we're going to revert to these prior forms of ownership

that existed before european colonialism

the question stands as to how is that going to be compatible

with the developmental needs

and wants and demands and necessities of the american population

and moreover and this is probably the second most important thing that i wanted to get to have you tried talking to them to find out

talking to hom

well from indigenous backgrounds who support land back have you tried having conversations with them to find out what that would look like

ort least what they would want it to look like

yeah i've invited anyone i just can't find many indigenous people who agree with these extremely radical demands

that i'm sy i mean want to well that's mostly white s when you sy when you say you know these extremely radical demands i mean

maybe if you know you have a conversation with with some folks and you actually hear them out maybe don't sust fs i me fisor maybe once you've actually heard their point of view it's not going to seem so extreme and radical

to you right ok

like when i came on when i came on when i came in your discord right

you might have thought that i was like you know i

i

radical or you know like an asshole and just trying to like you know dunk on you are trying to fool you whatever but i mean is that your impression of me now or

i sad i mean you're on a panel right now so i'm not actually sure

but

anyway but ok but it is your initial impression of me the impression of me that you have right now

i didn't really have much of an initial presson all i don't i didn't know you that much

but anyway the point of tn i must of i must have i must have had

some

yeah

but most of the time what happens is people must have been something that you thought i don't know yet because right what happens usse people come on they're friendly and stuff and they go and talk shit on on

witter i generally don't do that i do we iginye yeah we'll see

but anyway here's the thing is that

i

the second important point thing is that i know about the causes of social revolution historically also from a marxist perspective

and it usually has to do with the concentration of the means of production now

i gd that

the ways in which indigenous people are going to use the land

is not they believe it's not going i mean and yes i would i would say it actually has a lot more to do with the conqretizing of class consciousness but but that is that does play a role well class consciousness is something that only arises for the proletariat

for the first class in history that is class conscious is the proletarian class

a class struggle had taken unconscious form beforehand

but anyway the point i was trying to get to is that

m

in the concentration of them it doesn't matter for what how benevolent or how good these usees

the overwhelming concentration of the ownership of the means of production in the hands of a few

um

and the

kind of you might not want to call it this but formally speaking just formally speaking

officially speaking this pretty much is the case

the reduction of the rest of the population to the status of like

serfce or not serfs but

renters or some kind of people living off of the land of other big landholders and landowners

that in and of itself regardless of how the land is being used regardless of whether it's

used benevolent benevolently for the interests of the people living on its

that itself is a form of a

social and class contradiction that gives rise to political turmoil and class turmoil simply because

people required to have their own

means of production their own

way of securing and basing themselves off their own kind of

being able to stake out their own

secure livelihood basically is what i'm trying to say like for example i'm going to explain it this way

if you concentrate

land in the hands of only indigenous people right regardless of how they're going to use it or whatever

the very fact that you are inentrusting it to them

is itself going to be a source of social turmoil and social antagonism because

people need to be able to before they can trust others they have i mean sure but we're goh be in a state where you know a vast

i

vast majority of land ownership is concentrated in

far fewer hands i agree the number of the proletariat so would it automatically cause like class tensions i don't necessarly whats theing i think it i think it more depends on what way but that's precisely on utit

it more depends on utility and motorve production know that would on the issue here on the land well on but i think this is an important point this is likeci issue yeah but the precise issue here in the first place hold up i just want to get one point across and you know you can make your point

is that

i think you're s thinking about it as though it's simply swapping out one landlord for another

and i think that

that doesn't take into account

like when i talk to you for example like when i said us of frct you know that's that's a legal concept and in

after some

you know some uh some priming like you got it like you probably you know

read that in a law book somewhere and it came to the surface so what i'm saying though is that

this probably ethver

ideas and concepts about relationships between nations of people

and utility of land that doesn't even necessarily include ownership

that i'm pretty sure

you can conceptualize very you're if you're able to get into law school and you're able to think in like horizontally and in abstract ways

it'll probably come to you that oh hang on a second yeah maybe that does make sense

you know what i mean yeah but but i would i wouldn't narrow it to simply swapping one lan but the issue is that i'm coming also from the background of marx's early works is philosophy that the question of private property in the essence of private property in its relation to labor days like that

but regardless i don't want to get into that i just want to make the important point

that

i do agree that right now land is concentrated in the hands of a few but

that is precisely how i have come to understand america's current

social antagonism

um

for me america's current social antagonism precisely

mirrors those of the french revolution and other revolutions in the history of humanity

it's not simply like the revolution of the proletariat versus the bourgeoisie it's this more fundamental and objective social revolution

between the land hungry the landless and those the landowners now whether that's directly going to take the form of

like agrigultural land you could make a one to one analogy that way because

the well a couple of a couple of things are in the french revolution like one it was there were very stark class differences

and right now right right now i'm just paraphrasing malcolm x is't ok ok ok yeah malcolm x basically said well the french revolution the landlists

ah took the land from the landowners that was the revolution and

said the same thing about the russian revolution so i'm just paraphrasing what he said i know it's a semponle occasion but

to me it just suffices to explain the probably the main factor behind

social revolutions and political revolutions in history

so right now to me one of the intragoal and corner stone

things about so called patriotic socialism which is a current intur term i didn't coin myself

is that we do seek to have a general land reform we do seek to in some kind of way

give land to the people

and have a form of ownership where the people can stake out their own form of ownership of land

um

perhaps similar to the russian land reform

which led to the colcoses and mind you the colcoses

never actually were completely absorbed into the form of a

gotl state ownership at least during stalin's reign and stalin specifically laid out the reason for that being was that

this would be a form of robbery of the peasants that this small

form of even if it was a collective form of ownership was necessary

in order for people to be able to

in a sense own their own means of production

so to me

i do agree the important the question of land ownership is important but

the way i see that is i want to tap into america's own tradition of land reform

and that's actually where i think you could make

the indigenous

the rightful indigenous demands and i'm not just qualifying rightful in terms of what i think is rival but their own demands

that's where you could make it popular for the majority of the american peoples by

including it in making it part and parcel of a general land reform which is about the fate of all americans that's also how you could

bring in reparations and make reparations popular among rurle americans and americans at large

so to me

um

you know formally speaking i understand the importance of utility right in terms of content

but you have to think about it like this what is the reason i jus let me finish let me finis really quick really quick ok what is the reason why the so called democratic socialists have failed so utterly

within the past four

eight years or whatever and being able to make their case the american po just recently in virginia the so called progressive

has failed the progressive agenda isn'ratrut with anight year failure it's been like like a fifty odd year for sure but the so called like progress i'm talking more about like

the progressive wing of the democratic party in the in the democratic socialist which are more relatively new

just right now in the infrastructure sos have been around for quite a while

yeah but they've they've they've launched into the scene because of bernie sanders twenty sixteen

so anyway

the the

the issue is precisely the fact that they want to engage in all this kind of benevolent

the central government initiatives that's going to help the population

but the people are not having anything of it because they don't trust them why should they trust

that this

a force outside of them is going to do things in a benevolent way for them it's because

the democratic socialists don't have anyth any equivalent to the program of land reform

which will give the general population some form of security

assurance and guarantee that'll be the first step

to be able to actually build a government that has trust

between itself and its people

ya i mean

i would probably put it more like a

you know

oka okay

think of for example av morales in bolivia you know when when he was elected and you know avo was

the first

president of bolivia

with

indigenous background right like he was it use a compass you know he was a he's from like you know rural areas

um

and one of the first actions a government took

w is land reform

and they redistributed

at no cost they redistributed twelve million hectares of land in the first

a i think was like a year and a half

im

after after he took the presidency right so i agree with you that like land ref i agree with you that

a programme of land reform would be absolutely necessary

but i would also say that

i

that program of land reform has to lead with

i

with the self determination of indigenous people it can't just be oh yeah we're going to include them in the project too

i think it's a matter of

prioritizing first and foremost recontiliation with indigenous peoples basically have to have to set you have to set right the historical wrongdoing and you have to create a

an atmosphere of reconciliation and solidarity

alongside redigous people rather than

im

you know

return to them as

from their point of view you know the new set of landlords you know oh yeah were we're we're the settler colonialists but

we're coming at you from a more egalitarian perspective but we're still going to retain

the power dynamics that

he had

back when we were slaughtering you wholesale

so i think yeah yah so i think folding indgionous sovereignty into that into that land reform project and into the broader marxist project would be necessary to

to having a kind of healthy relationship yet

yeah i was just thinking some that makes sense yeah thank you a yeah that makes sense i just want to

two things so to i agree with you about the example oliva but we have to keep in mind

that forty to seventy percent of bolivia's population is indigenous so that's a very important thing we have to keep in mind here right

it's not necessarily aplicable

but on face value i completely agree that in a programme of general land reform you're right we can't just

have a one size fits all policy that's

that indigenous people are going to be subsumed under it that it's like

you know m or or that matter for black americans either in the form of reparations i agree

that

it does have to take the form of

that'sus my personal view i kind of agree with lennon on this point

of indigenous self determination

as well as black national self determination actually in contrast to the communist party sa whose leader joe simms

a called me a chauvinist

i actually believe in the black belt thesis and believe that black americans deserve at least the right to have their own country in the black belt

right

so

that is something i agree with but

all i'm trying to say with general land reform

is that

this is a way you could make those things

popular and viable to the majority of the american people because

they will be getting something and then they will attach their own interests

to the interests of indigenous people and the black population

would basically it doesn't mean that um

black population and indigenous people are going to be formally reliant upon them or informally reliant upon them

it just means

that

there's just this common interest yes we want land and you want your own self determination yeah you can have your own self determination who cares o as long as you can get land i just

yea i jus want to clarify something be cause i saw um i saw

like i just happen to see

in your chat

that i

i mean i'm on a quote unquote panel

and that you know you're like

you know taking on five people so i just want to be clear like

these are oka okay so nia is my co host uh

the beautifully that you see up top

in mainstream okay

and then stew

is a very good friend of mine

and so was irene

friend of ours

and the reason actually that we were together tonight was because we were watching we're watching have c

right so we're watching like all of the other u s c fights

and normally we they get together on a nightly basis and we like you know like watch videos and shoot the shit

so i'm

i think it was stw that happened to mention that like you know you were a

i

still like talking about people who are like you know trying to dunk on you on twitter and making you the main character

so we pulled up your stream

and the reason that i actually like

you know came into yourchannel was like no i think i should actually talk to this guy because i think that

i

there's no reason that you should have to be

it's upset not that you don't have a reason to be what i mean is like

it it kind of made me feel bad that it's like you're clearly upset by this that like

people have just been getting at you for several let me ask you something like i mean let me go have a conversation so i just want to say like yeah it's just me and you having a conversation right let me ask you a question m friends i don't know if friends are in this stream yeah you have like eight thousand fars

would you say you ever been like attacked or mocked on twitter or come ot has to me all the time well i mean i mean to the same extent that i listen i' a a first of all i'm a marxist in a capitalist nation you know i'm

i'm probably the only communist that writes for a major

publication in this country which publication so

i wri i wat for mclean's magazine i also freelance for like the globe and mail and not you know

f other publications up here you know vice et cetera

but like there aren't

i

there are basically like aren't communists that

right for that broader range of publications so i do get attacked a lot because especially where my ideas

on you know on foreign policy on imperialism on reconciliation with first nations etcetera

it pisses a lot of right wingers off so i get attacked a lot like i had a leader of a political party like calls a dog pile army back in two thousand and nineteen that lasted for months

so yeah i completely get that

ok so you would say like it was the same extent

of what i'm receiving right now like thousands of people

yeah i lit i literally had to i literally on twitter had to block like eighty thousand people no no joke

oh wow because yeah yeah yeah because like it was just a bunch of r i've had death threats i've had people like like pull up my old addresses

you know i have to have had people threaten to do things to my my my fiancee and my children like it's yeah it's been pretty bad

ok

yah so

ok understandable if you're saying what

what you're saying is true i understand that

um

so my question is you

given that you know

you know you you may disagree with my perspective you obviously have the right to disagree right

but do you personally think that just based off of what we're talking about now right so i'm not asking you to like hypothetically apologize

for something i might have said

uh weeks ago but

do you think that i do

yeah do you think that it is justified

for people to be calling me like a chauvinist pig

and an apologist for imperialism and all this kind of stuff

or maybe i just have a disagreeing perspective about what i consider to be the best

strategy for communist in the united states

ah

okay is the

on

is like the vitriol justified

probably not

if i'm being perfectly honest like i think do people take a point of view from you that you are a childrens pig that you are pot apologist for imperialism that you are doing red brown stuff like

i can see how they arrive at that conlion

flusion

i do i think that it's necessarily healthy

to

i'm

you know

direct all of their anger at you n know i think in a lot of ways your functioning a is a pressure valve

and that like uh people are um using you basically to like vent anger at

conditions that they can't really do much about this happens a lot like i talk about this happening a lot in

you know left thet circles etcetera

is that sinceed people

can't i

exercise the levers of power and get the kinds of outcomes that they want i mean we show up to vote every four years and we don't get

like the working class

continues to get fucked

i it

you know we we

go to university

spend a shit ton of money

and then can't get half decent jobs you know we grind away at minimum wage jobs

for x amount of years can't get a raise our jobs are precarious

so all i'm saying is that like

because we've done all of the things that we were supposed to do

and because we've you know spoken to power in such a way that is required of

you know living in a civic society

voting paying attention to politics you know the

doing things as simple as like writing a letter to the editor you know we do all that and then the outcome doesn't change

so i think what often happens is that when we see that we can actually

hurt someone's feelings

that actually cares about it

because we have taken opposition to something that they say or something that we believe they represent

will take that opportunity to do that and i'm fully guilty of that myself i know i do it like i fully recognize it and to be honest like

sometimes i will even sit around and think about it for a few days afterwards and say you know what i didn't i didn't get at that person

because

they actually did something that wrong or that bad

i probably got at them the way that i did because i was just pissed off and i was venting and that's not ok

right

so you know yeah but i don't i don't i don't think that i don't think that most of the responses that you've gotten are really justified that are people really that mad at you

i don't think so i think people

im

have used you as a convenient target

to

to to vent whatever upset that they've got going on

yeah because you know like from my perspective if the issue is is this the failed political strate has been going on which i've been the infrared collective we've been taking note of it

been silence for many many years since twentoyan sixteen

and trying to come up with insights and solutions

we may very well be wrong we may be absolutely wrong

but i just don't see why if

what we're doing hasn't been tried i think i think though that ok there's there's

i'm going to put this there's sort of like two sides to this right

there's a site of

you know

aight people dog piling you on twitter and calling you all kinds of names and this that and the third

but there's also like i'm sorry it was just it was legitimate like your conversation

with kuana

was legitimately funny we broke it down on our stream yesterday i i laughed myself almost went into a fucking coma i found it so funny right

what

i will like

i'll laugh at almost anything you know so yeah it wasn't as though it wasn't as though like i you know i feel any sort of malice towards you was like oh man he got fucking owned and here's why right

so um i think i think oftentimes

will take

what should just be

like a joke or lighthearted laughter a funny situation and i think like after the after you're done laughing after you've roasted somebody

just let it go water under the bridge just don't bring it up again you know you cook somebody one time and then that's it like you don't have to go back for leftovers

but i think some people will then take

the the

the th been earned

i

bookmark that they' have put on you

and and that portion of the brain is like ok so i can just like flat out abuse this person whenever i want to have a laugh

you know what i mean and i can like get all of my friends

to do the same shit

so i think but i think the issue is that you got cooked for a day or two but over the you know the you know the vagina hose thing

i think people should have just moved on personally

yeah but i think the issue is that one of the reasons people found it so funny is because there's just this apparent contrast between has

who obviously projects at least the image whether people agree with he or not of this like

well read and serious intellectual

and political kind of guy and then on the other hand just some guy going on like a dating show

and being a vulnerable normal human right

but

to me i just don't

i don't

know why that's so

i think i thel like i saw one clip of you

going off on somebody you know and calling them an angle and whatever i'm sorry that was fucking funny yeah yeah i w the thing with me is that i've i never in my vocabulary i found h but but for me i've never hid the fact

that at the end of the day and i go out of my way to stress this

i am just

a not only am i a human being

i'm a straight guy i'm just a man right

so you know i'm on stream talking about a lot of silly stuff all the time i'm talking about like

you know like

relationship stuff and like talking to girls and shit like i'm talking about my own personal life a little bit too

and

these are things that are not appropriate for like a serious political theorist in that context but

i

i make no i never like i've never hit i've never hid the fact

that i'm just a human being i'm just a normal human being right so i don't know why people but you have us but you do project the image of somebody who is a

i think in a way like over compensatory you know like yeh talking to you you know you're not a you're not a stupid dude like you're a smart dude you know your stuff

do we have the same

like do we have the same views no

you know do we like we have went to disagreement yeah absolutely

but

i kind of think that if you

put more energy into

that intellectual side

rather than on the you know projecting like the alpha male image you know flexing on camera and that kind of shit

i think people would be a lot more receptive to what it is you have to say and

and be able to have a principled conversation with you that includes points of disagreement like listen i don't i don't really fuck witha patriotic socialism like i don't really

i don't really get that

but

i think beyond that point of deference like we probably agree on on a lot i think this is really just a matter of

the narcissism of small differences

well don't think that it's like you know we're political enemies per se

yeah well here's the thing is that

my personality right and this is just my normal personality is that i am a you know i''m a i'm just a man right this is what i am

um yeah just is how i see it right

and

do i always take that seriously not necessarily but at the end of the day i am of the view that you know this is a doggy dog world

you know we're all trying to whatever get some big boody beaches or whatever

you know what i'm saying

is what it is

and

you know

i make no apology or shame about that so

this intellectual but this what i want to get to is that this intellectual side that you're talking about

it's really interesting you say that because when we started these infrared live streams

these were almost

only intellectual in content

i was just being this serious kind of intellectual guy

and

over the course of time

people began to

ptroll me so much and like try to get under my skin and like

make me look like an idiot because they were taking things i said out of context i wasn't acting like a ridiculous

humorous you know light hearted person at that time

i quickly begin to realize that if i don't

get under control my own character if i don't develop my own character

and

you know take care of this pathological side that people are inevitably going to project upon you

people are not going to take me seriously and

one of the ways i've seen that happen is one of my i don't agree with that well i'll give you an example there's that one of the most serious and professional people

that i know and i have the utmost amount of respect and i respect them more even than myself

i give them way more props because they're strong enough to go through it than i am

is caleb malpen caleb malpen is an extremely serious

professional

guys you would

akill

yeah

o and and a so i don't doubt that i don't doubt that caleb is a very smart guy i think he is a very smart guy but he's also very serious and professional about what he does

there's a difference between being serious and being self important

well i think is i think's very self important all i'm trying to say is that you are inevitably going to derive pathological characteristics from people

regardless of how they try to conduct i'm going to i'm going to there's going to be things about people that i don't like yeah but i mean there's things about people that i don't like be are in my own family you know so when when the intellectal yeah so when the intellectual content of what i'm saying which was very provocative and very much

just upsetting to western marxists and specifically american marxist the things that i was saying like i was proposing really

things that just beyond the realm of their conception like i was saying things like

a marx and gles was right socialism was inevitable and right now we do kind of live in a stillborn socialism and i was saying things like

a traditional conception of the proletariat

as no longer applicable today and when i was saying things like this

um

you know i was

just because of the

theoretical content of what i was saying just how much ideologically controversial it was

people use that

to um

reject and attack me at all manner of pathological and

of slanderous and very personal attacks

so it became very clear and evident to me i mean i get that like yeah i understand like that i can i can conduso a good feeling yeah i can conduct myself intellectually

but i'm still going to piss off people the same extent that i do

it's just that now like

you're talk listen i

if you scll toroh my twitter feet you will find a bunch of down bad posts ok

a few days ago i saw a picture of an airship it was it was a blimp

it looked to me like a i'm sorry it just looked like a fat ass alright and i was like youyah i know you all see it

ok

i think that

people know that the

i'm somebody that

you know takes my shait seriously like if i make a claim i will have

you know three four five different citations for it

but at the same time like

i don't

i don't spend all of my time just being super serious i would say like seventy five percent of my twitter output are just shipposts

you know what i mean yeah i know but i gt the issu is that a huge burden of me

of seriousness is thrusted upon me because

my views are so much against the grain and so controversial are those views of the infrared collective

and i'm talking like we don't really share anything in common right now with any established current of the american left or the american marxist right

so we're talking about that level

then the burden of seriousness is we we're not allowed to just be like

casual individuals who are just

if we slip up once and we're held to the standard of like gods because we're basically projecting an entirely different

world in an entirely different world of meaning and were being held responsible for like

carrying and shouldering

this completely different ideological world view and to the fullest extent of its

you know necessary seriousness

so we can

really just be normal people

without that being used against us of the way i'm looking at is that like

the way this social media is so fundamentally meaningless right and just like no matter what i do they're going to fucking attack me like

i should pretty much just

satiate

on on twitter

and deeper i mean it's like it's like gtk that also important

i think' was also important and i maybe it's because i'm you know i'm not sure like are you a member of any of any party like a member of any communist party no and the reason for that is because i

i want to be able to infrared people we want to be able to have full control over infrared so

we do tell people to join the c p usa the communist party usa but

we don't we won't become members ourselves because then they can kick us out

uh b they can try to

you know hold us accountable for what we do on our streaming platform so we've consulted me so so i am i am a member of the communist party of canada

yeah and you know i'm

i consult i do consult with my

my club leader

like my local club leader

on a you know a fairly regular basis

i do talk to other members of the party

quite often

and i often say you know when we have these conversations you know one of the first things i'll ask is like hey this thing that i'm doing like

is it are we cool am i within bounds and so on on and you know just keep doing what you're doing you're good

right

i think you can

you can do a lot

without

hitting the outer boundaries of what's acceptable within party behavior

so when i say that what i mean is on

i think that

not being part of a party

or like a revolutionary organization

you know and it doesn't have to be the communist party

whether you're like it we believe in or we believe

we only really recognize the communist party is like

i if

ok from our perspective if it's not going to be the communist part of usa then the party form itself is obsolete

ok no i got that what i'm saying though is

i'm just trying to make a broader point that

when you're a part of a

revolutionary

or an anti capitalist or an anti imperialist organization

then the advantage isn't simply just belonging to part of a party the advantage is like it you know it's the political education

it's the you know the community work like the grassroots level work

um you know understanding like how to build and and maintain clubs and that sort of thing so

you're also getting a political political education that comes along with that

but it also

i think

it discourages

behavior that's highly individualist in nature

and i think that the

i think that one thing that and i'm not trying to my own horn here is just that something it's something that i continuously try to work on and check in with people on

is that

i want to make sure that

if i'm just joking around

you know and ten man i

i joke around about things like

you know did you know that the bald eagle

rde that you hear in movies and shit is not true

because the bald eagle the bald eagles cry is actually pussy

right

the double red tailed hawk over it now i am

i'm a i'm a i'm a

i'my falcon's premist

ok i believe like the falcon is like

the pinnacle

of

the evolution evolution of the animal kingdom

if you've ever seen a falcon

take out a fucking pigeon in mid air you have like seen

god's design at work

r now i will joke about some shit like that

which i mean granted it probably sounds really super silly in your chat

but i will like literally log on the twitter and talk about how pussy bald eagles are

right

i'll log on it

i on to twitter

and tweet some wild shit like

eh ya so uh what's home girl from the old comfy casch been up to eh

you know i want to i want to go see about her

now everyone wasn' fucking joking

and everyone also knows that i'm a part of this party

but there's nothing that i'm doing that's escaping the boundaries of like acceptable party activity

so to your point and to you know the point about kill a mopp and

i guess i do find him a bit off footing because

it really kind of seems like

i'm

thank

only my form of socialism and only like only

the form of communism that i've been able to arrive at

conclusions on

like through my own experiences my own education and so forth

this is what is valid

right and your shit where you're saying that you know patriotic socialism is actually a

tantamount to soorphanism actually like there's no possible way that you could be fucking right when it's like

you know i th you could probably

give a little bit of leeway

to other people's point of view

and especially people who belong to those parties where the party line is actually

no this is this is not ok you know you can give some credence to people who come at it from a different perspective and i think it's just very off putting

when people are just like

absolutely not this is the way this is like the way and there's no weather way at all

you know

well yes i think i think i think that's probably like what you're encountering

online is a reaction to that and not necessarily a reaction to you as a human being

yeah i think the issue though is that andh i'm not going to speak for caleb because we do have different views on things and i don't want to speak for him but

you know i think what you're talking about is the necessity for a degree of professionalism which caleb does have because he's bound by r t works for a professional media company so he's not completely

individually free to do whatever he wants without

you know having facing the scrutiny of the company that he works for so

to an extent there's an analogy there in terms of

but one of the things me and caleb do fundamentally agree upon maybe the details aren't necessarily the same or how we think about it

is that there's something fundamentally wrong

with

the current that the direction at the american levet

ha'd been taking let's say

after the one nine hundred sixty s or seventies maybe after the seventies of the conoculture right

we agree that there's

ideologically speaking i

something very very fundamentally wrong with this right

and to me the way i've looked at it is that

from a perspective a media theory i believe that the key to any party or any political

party

is a unity of

media and organization right

and

infrared we are collective actually of about eleven people so it's not just that i can do whatever i want right i am accountable to those people

but

we

we only believe in the necessary independence of infrared right now not because we believe that our view is the only possible one

we tell our members to respect democratic centralism if the main party line of the communist party is to denounce infrared

we tell them go with the flow

right stick to the meat and potatoes issues

i

so i agree about this necessity of recognizing the difference between your individual beliefs and organizational form it's a very important you know stalin

called this in relation to the american politics he said

this is true bolshevik manhood right if the majority vote one way

it doesn't matter what you believe privately go with the majority right that's the meaning of the bolshevik party majority

so i agree with that right

for the reason we retain our autonomy and our independence

is because we don't think

that the current leadership of the c pusa

is adequately equipped with the necessary media theory and the necessary kind of a

ideological or theoretical background specifically in the sphere of like

information theory and then for us this is like something that really scares a lot of people but it is the french theory of

post war period la con de l

a the structuralists and the people in the realm of semiotics

see what the fok ryzomes are

telling what risms are i will ook and kill you in annal game what the fuck is a body without organs i'm sorry i can't hear yeah yeah right here di this fear of like media which ties together with media criticism and

all that kind of stuff and then more controversially the kind of basis of all this is actually coming from heideger right

so for us there's a series this is not caleb's view by the way i mean we and caleb

think about the issue differently we just agree that there's a big problem

but so i don't want to speak for him but

we think there's just thiss been this deficiency in the theoretical

conceptualization of western marxism

that

we think we need infrared to be independent because if we joined the party i don't think we would have a chance

for it to be able to have a platform

it would just immediately be squashed and killed in its cradle so for us

it's important that we can do what we want on stream

and keep that separate from the party it's also important and this is something i said before

that a party's a business it's fundamentally a business right the soviets had a word it's called like a

weget the russian word

it's like a business like attitude that's the attitude of someone gauging in the party right

a party has to function it needs to have a flow of revenue

needs to work

it needs to carry out activities and

you know i

it's like a job in a way

a lot of times right

and when you're making such a challenge to the mainstream line of the party that infrarets if we planted ourselves with the party we'd effectively are rendering the party inoperational

we'd rather deal with all that stuff here like on the internet and online

and

havel people just stick to democratic centralism in the party so it doesn't get intermingled with like the day to day operations

of a functioning party

and

you know i get that i respect that yeah yeah and it's like we may be very wrong in our perspective we do think that it has to be done and channeled through the

normal organs of the party like the democratic centralism it has to be

past we don't want to circumvent the party's rules in the party's protocols

it's just that we're wagering on it we're wagering that we might be correct we might be wrong and be proven wrong we have to adapt our view but

um

we do have a fundamental disagreement

especially on questions for example like

the legacy of the popular front we obviously

don't envision a communist party

that trails behind the democrats

in um

in elections local or general otherwise

we don't believe in a do communist party which thinks that

the democratic party and the you know kind of left liberal

institutions

of our society the n gos funded by billionaires and so on and so on

think tanks that this represents some kind of like democratic civil society

that we have to like

game he gemany over

right and we think this is a perversion of the popular front view which we think is was more of a populist

view as a way of resisting fascism

by tapping into like

country's people and your nation or whatever

so

for us

um this is obviously an extremely risky and just

fundamentally different view than what the

the current communist party leadership has

and that's why you know

we have we believe we have to keep in infrared for now at least maybe in the future this can change but

for now we would just want to keep it separate again

we want people to respect the protocols of democratic centralism follow the rules do what the leadership says

don't tell people about infrared don't even tell people you watch it

but

we do think that this is a decisive sphere for the regeneration of the party

media

no i understand what you're saying

on

and i don't have any

major point of disagreement with that like

i could sit here and

nit pick

i

the minor point of disagreement but frankly like i don't see anything that you've said

as

i

having like ma major like uh like

we are primary antagonisms

no

i

frankly like

okay based on your energy iuh on

twitter for the last few days and you know with regards to like

your conversation with kiana and some of the clips that have come out after that

the verses you know what you've said just now to me in this conversation

they

this is ok this is the person that i think

on

if most people saw and got to know

would probably

the they wouldn't really have a problem with

i granted like

you know i did feel like you were

you know disrespectful to luna and i did think that the

you know you're back and forth with uh with sammy was a bit like

all for

but

i also get that this is this is twitch and shit is a spectacle you know social media is a spectacle

i'm completely guilty of it myself right like i

i see somebody say something that i

vehemently disagree with or even find stupid and i cannot resist theking on it you know so i'm as i'm as guilty as anybody else of doing that

i

but i think there's a lot more to you then you know uh

to whole theory and uh you know vagina outlets i think there's a lot more to you

then you know whether

i

people who dislike you are ugly

or whether you can flex harder than other dud'es

you know there's

just in this very conversation i've learned more about you

then in the three or four weeks since you first shot up my radar you know what i'm saying

that's atu why i wanted to come and that's why i want to come and have this conversation with you because i'm like no like

you know i don't i don't like that he's actually sitting there like fuming and angry because he actually does

at the very least like you've evinced

that you have

im

i think like a degree of learning that is past what most people have done

before they start calling themselves communists

and i just wanted to have a conversation with you about ok well this is why you know

folks have been getting on your ass and

this is why i did

i probably shouldn't have gone as far as i did and i don't think other people needed to go as far as they did

bright

i think were we get down to the heart of it like the major disagreement that people seem to have with you

which is this notion of patriotic socialism

like now that we've both explained our positions like i

i again i don't think that i can accept patriotic socialism as a concept

but aside from that like

my fight

really

primarily it is not with you

you're just

a matter of tendential difference

you know and to me tendential difference

i and

points of disagreement on theory

oh

nowhere near as in my face

as the fact that like

my sister needs a place to live

and can't find one right now

or that like i spent the majority of last year trying to help people not get kicked out of their homes or if they did trying to find the homes

like delivering food to people

that's the shit that's in my face in the parent and is

where i need to direct most of my energy

you are just

somebody that

have

i have a disagreement with

i might have laughed about

but have i directed way too much energy in trying to show people that

i don't believe in what you believe yeah absolutely have

and if i'm putting the greater things in perspective like there's a lot more that we need to be worried about right now and there's a lot there's a lot of things that are much more dangerous to us

then differences as to whether

a patriotic socialism is

they're truly socialist concepts or not

i

in the grand scheme of things i just don't fuck and care

yeah i mean i can appreciate you coming on and being honest about that and

you know i personally don't really have anything against you either

you know um

glad we could have this conversation is just the issue for me is just

you know twitter is a different story right people who come on twit

it's one atmosphere but then on twitter i mean people's ability to communicate with each other even people that completely agree with me on stuff right i might say something the wrong way and because i

i think like there's always an assumption of hostile intent on twitter

were it's like if you didn't see things in such a way that i

like

itight

if i don't if i don't deliberately massage my words into a way that it can't be misconstrued as being hostile then people lot ofmatically assume that i'm trying to be hostile even people that i think agree with me

almost all of the time

so there's been times where i've gotten back into back and forth with people and then it turns out like oh you thought that i meant it that way ok got it like

mo'm sorry about this water under the bridge we didn't really have to have this conversation

and i've done the same thing

where people have said things towards me and because i was in a shitty mood that day or maybe because people have been attacking me for this that or the third reason

i thought oh here's somebody else coming in and you know coming into my mansions to be shitty with me

turns out that's not actually what they meant

and i have to turn around and apologize so like the ability to have a structured

on conversation where there's at least some like graciousness extended in either direction

is extremely limited because you're limited to two hundred forty characters and the way that you interact with each other

primarily by quote sweeting

there is always not only the assumption of hostile intent

but the like the the commission of hostile acts

you know i mean like it's very difficult to interact on twitter in such a way as to not be hostile towards people

i think that i

smothing that out requires that we actually have a face to face conversation

so you know that again i gotter speaking with you like i don't think you're a bad dude

i do th i do think you've got to you got to clean up the the fast food containers in the background before youeo streaming you know with with the

with with a bad girl but that's donll

of the kettle of fish yeah right but and don't take that in any way or whatever i'm just ribbing you but yeah you know i think i think it's a lot more constructive for us to have these kinds of conversations than to be having like those those back and forth on twitter because there's there's no way that we're ever going to

come to any sort of reconciliation we're only just going to learn to hate each other you know i'm saying

yeah i mean no i'm really glad you have that perspective it's just

you know and i do appreciate i don't want to undervalue it but it's just

you know for me its i wish

the other i wish other people could have the same level of maturity and just

you know uh

willingly to just

see passed

their instinctual kind of hatred or whatever right

because you' shown me a lot of good faith you know you gave me the benefit of doubt coming on and hearing me out

and that's you know that's more than i can say for like ninety nine percent of the people that you know interact with me so i do appreciate that you know

and

you know hold hold those good thoughts until the next tim i got a fucking ros you on twitter in which case weill be at war again

wht

yea

that's all good hoey

ok sure yeah good talk are men well youyea good shat with you and i mean you know feel free if you ever want to like talk again any time if you ever want to like you know discuss there your butt heads or whatever like i'm completely open to it and i will let you i'll tell you straight up

like i know that in the twitch atmosphere like people sort of like egg on confrontation

but there's a lot of people that i know like on tag and politically and personally or whatever

that i will get into like

uh you know arg like serious vehement arguments with but to me it's like

this is just what their point of view is

but this isn't who they are as a like whatever someone's point of view is doesn't

i

does not capture the totality of them as a human being so even if you say some shit that i disagree with you might change your mind tomorrow right but you're still the same human being

so i respect that way more thean

i respect and have a lot more grace for that

then whatever it was that you said that i disagreed with honestly like

you say something and we disagree with it and we fuck and argue about it

i will go back to being your friend like

in the next five minutes if not the next day

you know i'm saying so if you ever want to like take up something that we disagree on

and we've auc can argue about it

honestly i'm not i'm never going to hold anything against you

like after that

you know we can just go back to just being cool again you know say

okay yeah

yea i mean yea i don't have an issue with that yea appreciate that

you andn no worries well anyway you have yourself a good night i i don't want to take up your whole night but have a great night and yeah hope to talk to you again soon

okay see later

i met

all right

w not give me a sake

taken sups

right well that i mean that was really honest it's just i wonder if uh

other people can be as honest you know

i'm really exhausted i don't even need to stream this long

we'll stream tomorrow longer guys

today was kind of a long stream anyway

i mean i don't have beep with that guy any more

but i'm still so fuck and pissed

i'm still so fuck and pissed you know

specially about that recent thing

people are so fucking adamant about it too

it actually still pisses me off

you know

i'm gonna get some food and just whatever

okay

i'm just going to go to bed

to you guys