ENDING Patrick Casey (White nationalist)

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hi what is up everybody we are gonna get

into this debate it's been a long time

coming the first person from that

Community I don't know what you call it

the white nationalist the alt-right the

this the that the Adolf Hitler fandom I

don't know what you call them we are

debating them for the first time this is

the first time they've agreed to debate

us Keith woods and Joel Davis were you

know they debated me about China lost

very badly

um but we've never actually had the

opportunity to debate about all the hot

topics about white nationalism and so on

and so forth so I'm here you know to you

and my regular skin complexion and we're

going to be debating this uh this you

know this uh brown white nationalist

he's not really white I don't know it

doesn't really look that white to me but

I'll let you guys judge for yourself

whether he looks white all right

um you know he may or may not be looking

white I don't know you know uh it's

pretty much like an IQ test we're about

to you know subject him to except

instead of IQ it's color and it's

completely neutral unbiased and if you

say otherwise you're coping alright so

let's see Patrick Casey let's give him a

call can you hear me yeah I can one

second here all right good evening

everyone one second let me I'm trying to

do some I've never done this this way on

Discord before all right there we go all

right you can hear me yup I can hear you

excellent how are you I'm fine very good

all right well I guess we're here

because uh I disagreed with some of your

takes on South Africa you accuse me very

emotionally of uh crying okay I keep

seeing you in my quote tweets like all

the time I don't know what's up with

that you kind of just like cry with

these one-liners instead of making an

argument so I just wanted to give you

the opportunity to actually forward an

actual argument that we can test and you

know scrutinize yeah I think you were

very emotional when you were accusing me

of crying so I think that's kind of

projection on your part but yeah I mean

you know it's really hard to parse out

the emotions through tweets but the fact

that you've been constantly quote

tweeting me without challenging me to a

debate kind of seems like the emotional

guy did you have to challenge someone to

do a debate to uh talk to them on to

quote tweet them is that how it works

Patrick you're like my number one fan

dude I don't even know who you were I

think I would really do maybe three or

four times I didn't even know who you

were buddy I've been on here you asked

me for a debate so maybe you're my fan I

don't know yeah after you constantly

quote with me like every other day a few

times you're gonna really got under your

skin I can tell it's okay well it's okay

we can move on from that we can move on

we can have a nice discussion about

South Africa so yeah okay and uh you

know you yourself you're looking pretty

white today and you know I'm not as

white as me but that's okay not everyone

can be as white as me I know it's common

for white nationalists to just you know

not really be that white so anyways

there is a trend of that it's very true

but I'm not a white nationalist so I so

oh really what okay so what would you

describe yourself very briefly I would

describe myself as a Paleo conservative

look if you're like left of center I

know you guys are a little different

than the average leftist stuff

I'm not an expert on this shit but

weren't you like the lead guy of

identity Europa or whatever that's true

yeah once upon so dude that's not paleo

conservative dude paleo conservatives

Like Pat Buchanan you're bringing some

like a like Europe shit white

nationalism under the title of ideas

that we actually advocated for what we

what you do here in Europe and you do

hate white people that's very clear and

we'll uh dude I'm whiter than you as you

can see yeah

skin tones look at my skin tone compared

to you right now dude I'm lighter than

you right now do you see how can I hate

white people yeah a very very funny bed

you're really going with that I say

anyway look Patrick Patrick so you're

not a white nationalist so what would

you describe yourself as paleo concerns

just ask me that yeah so you're

answering the question

I mean it's fine it's fine so you're

like okay

sure Pat Buchanan paleo conservative is

that what we have uh we could go with

that Paul Gottfried yes yes okay okay so

just to be clear it kind of seems a

little cowardly not to own up to your

own past you're saying you have no

affiliation

I told you that white nationalism wasn't

the term that was used I used a

different term but you were you were

talking so much all right so so it's

another term it's another term for I

hate the black people on the subway so

whatever right it's gonna probably be

the same thing that isn't what it is if

you look at the substance of what I've

advocated for the entire time of my

political career it's been immigration

dude it kind of seems like it kind of

seems like

it seems like you used to be like an

alt-right guy and then you kind of

pussied out of it because of all the uh

like the alt ride died and they made a

lot of mistakes and I was like yeah I

don't want to be associated with any of

this so if that's if that's pushing out

dude you're a sellout to your own wife

if I get this clearly I'm a guy who

hates white people but you're a traitor

to the white race by your own logic you

sold them all out threw them under the

bus and now you disavow everything

really that's what

you trade the white

your skin tone on the thumbnail for your

video all you want and I can tell you're

a little wider uh you know down here on

your video for this stream than some of

you this is my natural skin color are

you kidding be white Oz I can help you

as an actual white person I can help you

out with that

um

we're gonna go through your ordeal of

Civility here together okay so instead

of I don't want to get lessons on how to

be but let's get to the substance now

being white with being a you know I

don't even know if I can say that on

YouTube but yeah bitch

just going up to it just don't up to it

I saw a stream where you're saying I'm

not anti-white I support white people I

you refer to that as uh in LGBT terms

you're the leftist here though you're

the leftist you're aligned with all the

LGBT stuff so that's the difference

between us as I'm not okay we'll get to

that in a second but Patrick I'm

anti-white and um why would I be hiding

that if I was anti-white what am I

scared am I scared to be anti-white why

well yes yes I absolutely yes yes and

you want to know why it's because you're

trying to infiltrate Maga with this

magazine dude if I hated white people

something that happens very often in

communism is where you have Outsiders

who come in and they say ah look at you

you uh revolutionary working class

specimen I'm fighting for your interests

um but the reality is a global situation

you need white people white

conservatives to think that you're on

their side why so of course they're

gonna say yeah I'm against it

let's kind of speed up this uh little

dialogue Loop why do I need them though

for what I mean I'm just based on what

you said here you're saying Europe is

gay I said I can teach you how to be

white you say I teach me how to be okay

so you're so sorry no I mean I was

talking about

why do I need it

that doesn't really matter I'm actually

repeating things that I've already said

two minutes ago right so um

barbarians living in caves so yeah

you won't admit to it Patrick why what

why do I need white conservatives go

ahead I just listed off the anti-white

things that you've said just over the

course of this video

white people why do I need them though

why do you need them yeah like why do I

need to fake

communism is is you're trying to sell

communism to predominantly white people

why why because you know there's already

an established left that I've gotten

ostracized from for doing that from I

could just go join them why am I doing

this you just said you got ostracized

from them dumbass because I stuck up

because I'm standing up

are you even listening to what you're

saying okay stop showing off for a

second and let's roll back the logic

logic allegedly originated in Europe

how are you before this is crazy Patrick

Patrick you didn't really inherit the

logic Gene so let's roll this back I was

ostracized from the left for standing up

for the Maga workers why did I do that

why did I have to do that I mean you

would you would have to be the one to

tell me you're asking me to explain your

motivations yeah because because here's

the thing Patrick if you come at me

racially I will banter and come at your

racially back but at the end of the day

I don't hate white people and if I did I

wouldn't be scared to admit it and by

the way I can be more way more racist

than you it's not doesn't mean I take it

seriously on a political level doesn't

mean I seriously think white people are

savages who have tails living in caves

and they're ice monkeys or whatever like

you could have banter with someone and

you're going jib for jab on racial

attacks doesn't mean I'm actually gonna

draw serious political conclusions from

that banter you seem to be really

sensitive and like cry baby shit think

think Patrick it's like it's like you

say you say even worse shit it's like

you're people who say even worse shit

and now you're crying like a victim of

anti-white hatred it's crying again

there we go you said it like five times

on Twitter you said it like 10 times now

this guy's got like 10 words in his

vocabulary he's got like two lines of

attack so very good very good well maybe

we should get into South Africa I think

yeah sure we have yet to we have yet to

demonstrate how Haas is anti-white on

any fundamental level okay well I

already have said that a number of times

you said a lot of answers okay you

mentioned banter that I said Europe

you can say just jokes you can say it's

just Banner I'm not really convinced

that's the case okay but when it comes

to South Africa I mean it's very clear

through the plight of the white Farmers

there that is absolutely okay

so the first thing I want to um

establish right when it comes to South

Africa

and um let me actually do something

really quick because uh I actually want

to reveal in fact that I'm infiltrating

the white race and this is not really

that genuine um I'm actually a brown guy

isn't that crazy anyway great reveal

there yeah your skin tone uh

your credit score saving I was saving it

for the end because I wanted to like

cast off the mask anyway Patrick let's

let's parameters do you think there was

a white genocide occurring in South

Africa right now I would say generally

yes but it's not

it's no it's a complicated thing if I if

you look into what app reform and a lot

of these farmer advocacy organizations

they're very careful about that but I

think if you take a step back the people

who are saying there's no idea and this

might not apply to you I'll be

charitable here the people who are

saying that there's no white genocide in

South Africa are trying to downplay the

plight of the white Farmers they're

saying ah it's not really like anything

you're not answering my question it's a

yes or no kind of thing do

so it's yes or no do you think there is

a white genocide in South Africa I would

say that yes in so far as yes

trying to get me to gotcha let me

explain my position and then you can

respond so genocide is not something

that begins the minute that like every

or a large amount of a particular racial

group is rounded up and killed right

there is a long process that leads up to

that okay so you look at genocide watch

this International genocide Watchdog

organization they have 10 stages of

genocide right and just you you if you

actually care about an ethnic group you

don't wait till it gets to they're all

getting murdered to that stage so I

would say that we are aware on this

genocide you know time frame or or a

process we are in South Africa is

debatable but it is absolutely you know

in some of these stages and that is what

genocide watch says about so that's

that's a little vague but um how long do

you think it takes for a genocide to

materialize if we're just in the early

stages because apartheid came to an end

in the 1990s and farm murders are

nothing new and as a matter of fact I

don't even think they've peaked like

this year they they were they've been a

thing for decades right so if the

genocide hasn't happened yet how long

have we been in the early stages of

genocide do you think in South Africa I

mean there the warning signs have been

there for yeah for years I don't know uh

decades right and I know he went there

in 2014 and he was very concerned about

what he saw okay um you're being very

vague so you just uh so what are the

examples of genocide would you say I

mean what what examples of genocide

would you say exist in uh South Africa

against white people sure so I mean you

would have to go to if we're going off

of what he said and I would you've got

the 10 stages of genocide I can read

these no no I just want to ask you like

um what are examples of that that the

government has not rounded up all the

white people and killed them yet but yes

in terms of moving

genocide doesn't need to be perpetrated

white people in South Africa then you

can't there's no way around the thing is

Patrick genocides don't look I'm very

concerned okay Patrick genocides do not

need to be perpetrated by the government

okay so I'm aware you can give me

examples of like things being done

against white people that you would

think are genocidal can you give me any

examples

um just in any context it's like a

general example of that okay so if we

again if we go to the 10 stages of

genocide you have classification

symbolization discrimination describe we

could just talk about that one that

one's happening in South Africa they

have over 116 racial laws that have been

passed since the end of Apartheid many

of these discriminate against white

people okay so yeah

the uh pathetic form of affirmative

action South Africa putting the genocide

question aside for a second are you

concerned at all do you have any

sympathy with them

um I have some I have sympathy with all

people around the world obviously but I

care about my own country first and

foremost nine white people in South

Africa Patrick Patrick told me you said

you said you were going to lead an

example of being a civilized white

person but you don't understand the

concept of taking your turn so I have to

get an argument in in order for this to

work okay one one Bible and we're going

to just talk past each other or talk

over each other okay so so here's what I

think I typically don't want to

interfere in the Affairs of other

countries but when you go around making

the allegation of genocide usually that

implies some kind of action has to be

taken by my country or our countries uh

to do something about it or to respond

to it in some kind of way so it's a

really serious allegation so if you ask

me if I'm concerned about white people

in South Africa I don't know why I would

be exceptionally concerned about them in

comparison to other groups if we look at

people in South Africa who are overall

being victimized by the circumstances so

I asked you again what examples what

kind of genocidal acts are being done in

South Africa

um against white people that concerned

you you said discrimination in the form

of laws being passed these affirmative

action laws which primarily concern like

government jobs and a bunch of nonsense

have done nothing to change who actually

owns the economy right the the actual

economic um Health of South Africa and

the means of production have not changed

since the apartheid era and if you look

just in the case of Farmland you have 44

000 farmers who control 80 percent of

the uh of the entire land the commercial

Farmers although agricultural land and

and Oh wrong majority of whom are white

and then you have an even smaller

subsection about 3 000 or so of these

Farms which are corporate Farms Mega

industrial Farms which are responsible

for like 70 percent of all the output so

you're dealing with a situation of

Monopoly Capital inherited from the

apartheid era the government has done

nothing to overturn that now if you're

going to say you're concerned about

white people because of discrimination

how has this can you give me examples of

how white people's position and stature

has been materially harmed by

discrimination laws

um yeah I mean if you want me to pull up

the source here we can talk about that

look you have uh almost every facet of

society you pointed out one particular

thing one particular way in which South

Africa I mean assuming those stats are

correct yeah white people still own a

lot of the farms and that's kind of no

they own the overwhelming majority of

all of the individuals right their

ancestors created what we know as South

Africa a much better version of South

Africa and they did so on according to

you they did so on the basis of Might is

right and now the might of the African

peoples is coming to bite them in the

ass so when you want to have a

philosophy of Might is right don't go

crying when a majority black population

comes to take it back so I want to ask

you again Patrick there we go we got we

got the crying again well that means

asking me to be concerned

in South Africa

oh they they own everything because they

you know might is right well might is

right the phrase that you use that

you're right right but we all know that

this ownership came in the form of

dispossession and theft and things like

that so obviously they're flunkering

each other killing each other you're

right you're right you're right you're

right oh yeah you're right everyone's

been conquering

for you know get your points no I

absolutely reject reject that entirely

okay um am I crying about it no but I'm

saying that yeah my sympathies are with

uh the whites out there but here's the

Patrick yeah you're right you're right

human history

clear you're you're Jibber jabbering

that's right human history has been

characterized by conquering this and

that I agree and the law of Might is

right has prevailed so when the majority

of the population is black and by virtue

of their might they take their country

back I don't see how you can cry without

being a hypocrite as well um you know

those liberal globalists that you're all

against they they actually were against

apartheid and that's that's a huge part

of the reason why uh it fell it wasn't

the Ingenuity of of Africans

well here's the thing Dia wants people

to believe in white genocide that's a

claim you made on Twitter yeah I don't

know why this white genocide claim is

going around specifically at this

opportune moment in which uh so many

African countries

are you just gonna do this thing where

you interrupt me at every turn and then

bitch

yelling over you because you can't

fucking have a debate in a civilized way

just shut your little ass up and let me

get my point in okay you're getting mad

you're getting mad so Patrick Patrick

here's the thing I'm giving I want to

give you an opportunity to speak and I

get an opportunity to speak if at every

turn I say three words and you start

talking No One's Gonna Hear shit so I

the brown guy have to symbolize you the

white guy you Patrick I'm civilizing you

and you're being an embarrassment for

the white race right now okay please

feel like thank you so Patrick Patrick

back back to the original Point Patrick

boy back to the original point right the

apartheid system was primarily a

political one and while I agree that

there was a huge International effort to

undermine the political system of

apartheid that really only kicked in in

the late 80s when the overwhelming

popular opinion was against apartheid in

the UK and the United States for decades

the UK government resisted any attempts

to alter the trade relations with South

Africa which they were heavily embedded

in terms of financial Monopoly Capital

headquartered in the city of London they

didn't lift a finger until like the late

80s in terms of imposing sanctions and

by that time they already had a plan for

dismantling the apartheid system on

terms favorable to that terms which

involved that none of the actual

Monopoly capital or its interests would

be altered or subverted in any way and

that's what happened neoliberalism was

introduced into South Africa which made

economic economic life considerably

worse after apartheid but none of the

actual fundamental demands of the

African revolutionaries were met so to

sit here and say that globalists were

against apartheid isn't really true when

they were instrumental in maintaining

all of these structures of economic

apartheid while politically having a

formal equality in Paul and politics and

representation and a bunch of nonsense

so what you're saying is is

insubstantial

insubstantial okay this just sounds like

a lot of kamiko I mean look the West

objectively uh ended apartheid if they

tried to ensure that there wasn't like

total insane African communism uh that

like total collectivization that took

over if they tried to ensure that white

people could still run the farms and

stuff well that's probably for every in

everyone's best interest

um frankly I don't know that wasn't

because because actually the economic

situation deteriorated even more

severely because of the privatizations

uh and the you know

South Africa being converted into a debt

Colony for the World Bank moreover South

Africa this is the most important kicker

here South Africa's Central Bank which

was Private right never became

nationalized it's still a private bank

it's still that same old Bank uh

connected to the international network

of Finance Financial Capital so to sit

here and say that oh well uh insane

African communism would have been the

alternative not really the the Min the

bare minimum of having a sovereign

popular government that represents the

majority of your people is your citizens

ability to have a stake in the system

when structurally speaking all of the

structures of apartheid are being

maintained economically nobody can feed

themselves in any particularly new way

right and all you're doing is lifting

all these restrictions in terms of

living and travel and stuff you're not

actually replacing that system as a

matter of fact you are just uh

strengthening in many ways the power of

financial Capital the whole reason there

was a conflict between the British

Empire and the apartheid government is

because actually the British Empire

wanted more of an ability to have a

foothold in the South African economy

than it uh it did it did at the time and

now it has that okay well

um I hope the white people in South

Africa keep their Farms so uh we're not

going to agree okay sure I mean you can

hope whatever you want but when you're

talking about genocide right we have to

get to like where that's coming from

that's coming from resentment it's

coming from a government that has uh

influential people where's the claim

coming from now there's a million white

population that have genocidal

statements on record no genocidal

statements on record so yeah okay so

here's here's the problem right we need

to establish how you can justify the

accusation of genocide I feel like I'm

I'm like holding your hand here and

giving you a really easy you would like

that you would like to believe that you

would like to believe that yeah yeah so

can you can you give me an example of

white genocide happening in South Africa

right now yeah I already I already told

you that uh genocide watch has done

studies on this and they've identified a

multiple of the ten stages of genocide

taking place so I mean that's that's

pretty reputable just and again you have

trouble understanding that genocide is

not you think we're in the early stages

of genocide right since the 1990s

heading in that direction it could it

could not result in it things could

change what makes you think it's heading

okay what makes you think it's heading

in that direction right well again if

you want to go to the 10 different

standards classification

um dividing us into a very Stark Us in

them and demonizing certain populations

that happens discrimination

dehumanization polarization right so I

mean look if you want to say it's ethnic

cleansing some of these some of these uh

South African farmer types intellectuals

some of them say it's maybe more it's

ethnic cleansing okay the purpose that

I'm the whole reason here is is is why

we bring this up is to say that there is

an anti-white agenda in South Africa

that white South African farmers are

disproportionately killed and attacked

in because of largely because of the

race in these Farm attacks and that the

situation is bad for them and that it's

moving in an even worse Direction so

right and so there's people regardless

of whether or not right now it could be

described as you know the experts you

know they disagree agree whatever okay

so um regardless of whether or not so

you're trying to interrupt me after

crying that I'm interrupting thing you

know regardless of that the question

what really matters is if you take a

step back from it is pointing out that

yeah the white population there is

suffering under a black communist

tyrannical regime whether or not you

were sympathetic can you name a single

Communist Regime that has a private

Reserve Bank a private Central Bank well

I'm not interested in splitting hairs

over what what yes

but anyway they're Communists they're

commies right okay they're commies but

the whole it doesn't mean if you're like

hyper specific like yeah yeah

you can you can have communism and just

have your economy be controlled by like

International bankers and stuff it's

totally real anyway Patrick let's let's

get to the substance of what you were

trying to say you think we're in the

early stages of genocide because of this

uh liberal jibber jabber 10 stages of

genocide vague nonsense that can be

applied to any situation in any country

where there's any conflict between

people whatsoever probably and then you

said that you think that um white

farmers are being disproportionately

killed in farm attacks because of their

race and uh because of their ethnicity

but afroforum which took Julius malema

to court in 2022

afroforums Representatives had to

concede in front of Court the fact that

only two percent according to them this

is afroforum the people you mentioned

only two percent of farm killings could

be as described as having a racial or

political motivation

so given that only two percent of these

killings have a racial or political

motivation don't you think that the fact

that white people in farms are killed

more often than black Farmers has to do

with the fact that there's more way more

white Farmers than black farmers

is probably a big part of it I haven't

seen that you can figure maybe true

maybe it isn't but what I would say I'm

more than happy to show it to you I'm

crying all these tears you know without

talking over and whatever else and he's

doing this I'll show it to you right now

that you're civilized you're doing the

same thing okay so if you want to have a

civilized conversation let me talk look

the fact at the end of the day uh white

people yeah they're the ones being

killed you can't you can't extricate uh

race from economics in in this case

right the people who own the Farms yeah

they're white so when they talk about

seizing the Farms when they talk about

shooting the farmer they're talking

about you know killing white people

taking stuff from white people so saying

oh all of these white farmers are being

killed and you know they're they're

being targeted uh you know all these

white farmers are being killed you know

that has nothing to that has nothing to

do with race uh you know in some cases

it is maybe in other cases it isn't okay

yeah so Patrick

um you said I didn't have a source I

just provided

that I just said I don't know I haven't

I haven't read that one it's a fact okay

so fact yeah it is a fact right it's a

fact that at least one that for some

reason afriform had to admit to now

since we've established that only two

percent of these Farm killings uh can be

said to be racially or politically

motivated let's ask a broader question

are you aware of how many white people

die per year from Farm attacks seen all

sorts of figures you know I was reading

some I think it might have been afro no

it's this book kill the boar yeah I

could show you after Forum statistics

and we'll I'll happily go by those if

you want pull up the ones in the book

but yeah if you want to pull up those

feel free I'm more than happy to use

their statistics for the purposes of

demonstrating this point here we go

um so according to afroforum by the by

their statistics and we're using their

statistics by the way and they're

they're very biased but I'll do I'll let

it stand anyway so we see here a graph

and you see that uh murders are in Black

right 64 in 2015 since 64 in 2016 72 and

2017 54 in 2018 57 and 2019 so pretty

consistently about 50 to 70 uh you know

deaths from Farmers and you would you

would say this is part of genocide right

I would say it's in like the early

stages it's heading in in a bad

Direction I wouldn't say that he's on

their own right now you keep trying to

make it just like a black and white

thing but it isn't like I said genocide

is a process and a lot of these early

stages are already there but you're not

sympathetic to these people that's the

thing like the average like white

conservative uh in Maga these people

you're trying to uh Swindle with maggot

communism they're they're sympathetic

right they're sympathetic they're like

yeah

the white people are having to deal with

there but you're like oh no the white

people are the remnants of apartheid

yeah it's obvious which side you're on

here okay

explicitly Patrick we can talk about the

narrative magical politicians out there

dude you're just you're just doing

narrative cope let's stick to the facts

okay we're dealing with an average we're

dealing with them dealing with around 50

to 70 Farm murders per year the total

murder rate sorry dumbass the farm

murders on their own are not genocide

I'm saying that you have to look at the

big picture

of the big picture but you're scared

little boy I've let you speak you speak

little boy right 25

000 people in South Africa per year are

killed so 95 of all murders in South

Africa black 95 of the victims of murder

in South Africa are black okay is that

an early warning stage of genocide or no

according to you black people victim of

genocide oh well you know probably not

but uh there might be some like tribal

motivations in some of these black

people killing each other okay we can we

can actually evaluate the motivation the

same motivation the same thing goes

through their head as when a black

person kills a white person when there's

all this resentment

I'm not denying there might be

resentment but according to afriforum

only two percent of the farm killings

could possibly be attributed to that in

one form or another so if you're going

to say that well white killings are

different because uh they're motivated

by resentment well all at best only two

percent of that is the case and plus us

how much of the 20 uh you know let's say

20 000 killings per year in South Africa

are are political we don't know right

but it's it's an extremely minuscule

amount in comparison comparison to the

total right and even if we just look at

household robberies in general I've

heard people make the argument for

example that well how do you explain the

sadism and the torture that goes on in

these Farm killings right well in

household robberies that occur in urban

areas there is actually a higher

incidence rate of torture and things

like that and violence that goes on so

these are clearly criminal acts with

absolutely no provable political or

racial motivation and why do criminals

in South Africa torture and whatever

kill people I don't know I I couldn't

tell you but in urban areas which are

overwhelmingly black it happens at an

even higher rate than it does on the

farms got it you know at perform also in

this book Hilda Borah talks about study

from Africa and found it is not uncommon

for Farm murders to increase in the

months following incidents of hate

speech that receive coverage in the

media so this refers to when Jacob Zuma

you know saying uh shoot the boar

um you know some of these other things

so uh there there is data that would

suggest a connection between when the

after various African black communist

politicians go out and talk about

shooting white people okay then why

wasn't it then why was it in the court

case because after Forum did maybe

you're misrepresenting that data point

that's the thing I haven't read it uh

I'll check it out I'm not

misrepresenting this is what he admitted

in a court of law in South Africa and

higher and far murders were 36 percent

higher than average for 2012. upon

analyzing five high-profile incidents of

hate speech directed at White Farmers we

discovered an average increase of 74.8

percent in farm murders in the months

that follow these incidents so it's like

very clearly but Patrick Patrick

in a court of law Africa

law could not prove any connection

between the singing of kill the boar and

any death of any form uh what bore

Farmer at all and they had an

opportunity to present this evidence

including the evidence from that book

you just cited

um they actually used that book in court

and not once were they able to prove and

they had to concede that they cannot

establish any provable connection

between the singing of kill the boar and

the death of even one uh boar farmer

um you know I don't know this I'm

looking at different research in here so

yeah I know your chat's trying to help

you really bad and you didn't come

prepared okay Chad I didn't actually

come prepared you've got your Discord

doing the hard work I did and I actually

did my homework before I did this I used

to be prepared so so Patrick so just to

be clear right you there is no provable

connection between the song kill the

boar and the death of one potato I'm

looking at dumbass says that says that

there is okay okay okay can you can you

present the data in any kind of way that

shows there's any data I'm not going to

read it again

you said hold on this is where you claim

you claimed you claimed in one of the

years

one of the years why genocides happening

where's your source for that where's the

evidence for that that's a pretty hefty

claim hold on what's my source for the

claim that white genocide is they want

people to believe that white genocide is

happening in South Africa wait oh that

the CIA does well I mean I don't have

any definitive proof obviously but I was

just making the spec I was obviously

you've got a very high standard for uh

empiricism here I can tell no because I

wasn't making an empirically uh an

empirical claim I was making an

observation that I think it's probable

that this stuff is being astro turf

because when you look at the disparity

between the facts on the ground and the

narrative that's being pushed on social

media it is so severe that it leads me

to conclude that there are probably is a

chance a high chance that yes this is

glowy it glows why is this happening now

at a time of so much geopolitical

antagonism against the West in Africa

when Russia's relations with Africa have

never been better since the time of the

Soviet Union when the when so many

African countries are now interested in

joining brics and the new kind of brics

world order it's it's a coincidence

that's all of a sudden we're getting

this spark of narrative outrage about

the so-called white genocide in South

Africa it reminds me of the claims about

an oyger genocide in China which have

been circulating uh since Xi Jinping

took power which also were completely

fucking nebulous bullshit and while

that's more provable in terms of the

source being CIA with Adrian's ends and

stuff it follows a similar pattern so do

I have concrete proof the CIA is pushing

this but it is it is following

conveniently fulfilling the cia's agenda

in Africa very interesting um you know

when I look into what the regime pieces

have to say the mainstream media these

ngos I don't know specifically the New

York Times ADLs PLC they tell you that

why genocide isn't happening right they

tell you that uh you're kooky and you're

a white nationalist if you if you

believe in all of that and um

regime propaganda uh saying that white

where is it coming from which like

regime institution or mouthpiece is

saying that a white genocide is

happening it's being astroturfed on

social media I don't know who where the

source is coming from but here's the

thing that's important Patrick the

important thing is that the source

yeah it resurfaces but Patrick we all

what I know for certain is that the

source is not from reality so that makes

me think it's highly

suspected

white people aren't being mistreated at

all in South Africa I don't know what

you mean by that you have to give me

tangible examples of it yeah you have no

sympathy for them listen listen an

American who has sympathy for all people

in the world right but I I am not

committed to uh like what people were

trying to advise president Trump on is

uh looking into sanctions against South

Africa or something because of things

like this like I sympathize with all the

black people in South Africa I

sympathize with the Indians in South

Africa do I sympathize with white people

in South Africa sure but do I sympathize

with them in a way that is more than

black people no that's my answer by the

way if there's any white people I

sympathize the most with in South Africa

it's all of the poor subsistence farmers

who um actually don't own the majority

of the land right it's all of the poor

communities in South Africa that have

been left behind because of the

neoliberalism and uh you know if I was a

South African I would promote a a Unity

between these people and organizations

like the eff to fight against Monopoly

Capital but they are a small minority of

the population in South Africa so why

they are getting so much undue attention

is not really clear to me uh especially

in this case you could say well because

white people have sympathy with other

white people I could show you a case in

which these kind of feelings are

misguided like the case of that guy who

brought in a refugee white South African

family to take care of them in the

United States and then went on to

completely regret it because they were

you know lazy and they were like not

willing to work at all which is a

stereotype that's held specifically not

against white people because there are

you know anglos in South Africa there's

other kind of people in South Africa but

against many boars is that they just

don't really want to work and they want

uh to lower low paying um migrant

workers from abroad many of whom

actually from what I'm told are

responsible for a lot of these foreign

murders and criminality in South Africa

to take care of them as domestic workers

to work on these farms and that they're

not really a productive aspect of the

economy but any case

um the idea that white people should

have sympathy with every kind of white

people around the entire world

unconditionally that would be like me

saying that you should have sympathy

with black or brown people anywhere in

the world regardless of the context I am

not willing to commit to that that's a

form of internationalist globalism which

uh you know if you're calling yourself a

paleo-conservative how is white

internationalism uh

I'm aware that's a phrase you like using

I wouldn't use that look yeah I mean I'm

going to be you have a situation where

you have white people who built a

country a great a great country Once

Upon a Time and they lose their

civilization to they lose their states

who insane black race Communists of

course I'm going to sympathize with the

white people there there's also you know

the the there's descriptive utility all

right it's a caution Tales South Africa

there are there it's not where we're

headed in America is not going to be

exactly South Africa

um but it's there there are many

similarities right and so that's the

thing you downplay what's happening over

there well you get people you South

Africa gets people thinking they start

thinking what's the future of America if

you're a hated minority as a white

person right sure not good and uh so so

there's there's also some utility in in

understanding that too but yeah of

course I have sympathy for them okay but

you understand in the case of South

Africa you're dealing with a country

unlike America and unlike European

countries where the overwhelming

majority of people were Africans right

only a minority were belonging to the

dominant uh ethnic group white people

right and they had an apartheid system

so any kind of um ability for the

majority in South Africa to be able to

rule over their own Affairs and choose

their own destiny is not commensurate

with the maintenance of the so-called

civilization station of apartheid we're

talking about black people ruling over

their own destiny but in in a vessel

right basically uh that they didn't

create which is uh with the state uh

what remains of South Africa

that is the that is there that was made

by white people coming there and setting

it up and you know black people were you

know he was just slaves and slavery's

nasty okay you know low-paid laborers

whatever but um yeah without white

people you don't get Southeast

organizations for example like the eff

that want to maintain and uphold the

original Spirit of the freedom Charter

the goals of the original

revolutionaries fighting apartheid they

don't want to just make do with the

ready-made infrastructure and productive

forces that were built up by white

people they want to you know do similar

to Russia and China build up brand new

forces of production from the ground and

have a developmentalism that surpasses

what was created previously they can't

do that so long as they don't have

economic sovereignty and they don't have

control of their own economy and the

whole Land Reform that's being pushed by

the eff is not because they hate white

people it's because they're against a

parasitical form of Monopoly Capital

that is not allowing the productive

forces in South Africa to develop

instead they're decaying and if you want

to blame black people for that you're

going to have to stand to explain why

most of the economy is still controlled

by non-black people if black people are

to blame for the development of the

South African economy stagnating so much

why aren't they the ones who own it I

would say that it's the political forces

a lot of the political forces in society

like the uh black you know 70 IQ

Communists running the show who uh are

responsible for South Africa not being

as nice as it once was and I would say

that the white farmers are the only

thing holding the damn country together

right so this idea

understanding of the situation you want

to talk about malema and the the eff and

the some of the land policies that they

support I mean you you can look at uh

there's a news article from what late so

December 2021 about how there were some

you know they were going to change what

section 25 of the Constitution

um malema introduced his party eff

introdu initiated the bill in 2018 but

they voted against it in 2021. okay this

is the bill that would have taken land

from White Farmers without

um compensation basically and uh his

quote exactly is the bill that this

house is asked to approve today will

take black people's struggle for land

repossession many steps back so that's

one of the big issues I have with your

thread and your entire framing of the

situation is you're acting like the eff

and Julius malemo aren't like insane uh

like ethnic you know ethno-narcissist

basically insane racial Nationals yes

yes they are they are always framing it

not just in economic terms but in racial

terms it's about about taking black

people's land that that is that is what

they are they are pan here's the problem

though because they are pan-african

nationalists and I'll cons yeah they are

nationalists right so they're not just

framing it in economic terms they're

also nationalists so they are going to

speak to the National the history of

their patriotic and National struggle

which is what it is but here's the thing

but you cannot say they are parochial

tribalists right because here's the

problem there are so many different

black ethnic groups in South Africa who

don't intrinsically like each other and

the contrary is true there's a lot of

conflict at that front and most

importantly there's a lot of animosity

especially toward immigrants toward

black immigrants among the population

and the eff has never caved into that uh

parochial sediment so yes I agree that

oftentimes they they will frame the

struggle in terms of fighting white

Monopoly Capital but what what what what

exactly why does that necessarily have

to refer to every single individual

white person doesn't it just refer to

the fact that they're also dealing with

African civilization and African people

not having sovereignty over their own

land I mean that's a fact right so to

say that because they mention white

people this and that yeah sure they

mentioned that you're also underplaying

but but why has malema went out of his

way several times not just in the court

of law but in in front of the press that

he doesn't hate white people that he

doesn't want white Farmers to have no

land he wants white Farmers to be able

to have their own land he wants all

people in South Africa to be able to

have land and that he doesn't want to

have any white people killed or murdered

or being he doesn't advocate for uh for

any of these Farm murders or thefts and

he's vehemently against criminality and

criminals so you're you're always

highlighting the most inflammatory bad

Optics from yeah yeah you totally

misrepresented malema right there so uh

you brought up his you brought up his

hate speech trial

um you know in the past malema said we

were not and like well we are not

calling for the slaughtering of white

people at least for now right which and

this is the stuff you're defending it's

just no no no no this is hilarious okay

so as a person and so he was asked

whether he would if a limo was asked in

this trial would he would he play would

he pledge

of white people well Emma says sure he

says yeah yeah and then the guy who's

asking him this says okay can you take a

pledge right now and he says no no I'm

not going to do that that's right it'd

be uh him in the future who makes the

call for the Mass lottery of violence uh

malema testifies that he may call for

the slaughtering of white people in the

future he cannot rule out that

possibility so I just want everyone else

died that we're dealing with this guy is

trying to whitewash these you know if

someone says

the guy who wants you to believe

there's a rain on your party Patrick now

that you're done you see your mouth is

smiling your mouth is open like a

autistic it might knock it was close

Patrick the thing is that wasn't a court

trial at all it was a BBC hit piece

interview taken out of context in which

malema said like seven times that he

pledges against violence against white

people then the interview got a like a

stunned him and Confused him into saying

no I can't I can't predict the future

malema said he himself will not call for

the death of white people but as far as

the future situation you're actually

wrong because I have the video with the

transcripts here and it's in it they're

in here and and before the gotcha

questioned the bullshit manipulative uh

media hit peace tactics got him to say

something that sounded bad it's a

complete misunderstanding of what he was

trying to say because like seven times

he did pledge that he will not call for

violence against white people believe

that you also just

I'm looking at it right here it's it's

he's in court this is and they have time

stamps for this yes

the issue with you man is is you're

operating in bad faith here because

ultimately yeah your sympathies are with

the black Communists they're not with

the white people you know maybe you

don't hate them because they're white

but at the end of the day

um it is

as much as much as you can just even if

you're just promoting this just in

economic comedy terms which you're going

to end up being anti-white and that is

what you're saying Patrick Patrick the

thing is there's a lot of projection

that goes on your front because you make

it seem like my world view is based on

race and it's not I happen to support

all revolutionaries against the system

of unipolar globalism against the

hegemony Against the World Bank against

the city of London whether they are

white Dutch farmers in their actual

Homeland whether it's uh you know

British people during brexit with whom I

simply size whether it's Maga people in

America whether it's the Canadian

truckers in Canada these are all white

people they're all white people who had

my sympathy and support because I take a

principled stance against Global

Monopoly Capital now when black people

are fighting Global Monopoly Capital

obviously have my sympathies you

unconditionally just want to say all

white people are inherently good I

support any white person

my worldview is not based on right never

said all white people everywhere are

great I am on the side of every white

person well in in the case

in the case of South Africa you clearly

support the forces of globalism this

guy's this guy was just trying to say

that this where I got that malema quote

from was a BBC interview no it's not you

have no idea what you're fucking talking

about it was an interview

done by a journalist said that he has

not yeah when he says oh I'm not going

to kill white people you see like

multiple times he said uh but I can't

say that I want in the future okay so

there's no way around that uh

can we can you provide can we read the

full transcript of that entire interview

for us

because it's going to reveal it's gonna

if you're not familiar with this like I

can say I can send it to you later yeah

I'm I'm I've watched the video several

times it wasn't uh no no again you're

saying it's the media hit piece it's

it's across it's cross-examination I'm

looking at Julius fucking malema sitting

in the chair right

provide me the link to this you're so

fucking stupid dude you have no idea

before you call people stupid go ahead

and provide the link to this

um yeah I mean I'll send I'll send you

the link but uh I don't have time for

you to watch it here so maybe uh you're

gonna you can get that on yourself so

you're just making it up I said I would

send you the link to it so okay well

I'll I'll go ahead I don't actually know

what I'm talking about I'll go ahead and

get it myself yeah I just I just dm'd it

to you I just dm'd it to you you're

pretending that I didn't I just sent it

to you on uh on Twitter so but look if

you want to start like reviewing that on

stream that's beyond the scope of the

stream you can familiarize yourself with

the situation a little bit that's

defined you didn't did you send it to me

on Twitter where did you send it to me

Twitter uh what's going on here

a different video than the one I'm

familiar with okay

yeah you're not you're you didn't know

what I was talking about South Africa

what's what's the timestamp I've said

multiple things

uh let's take a look for as long as this

change

11 15

the way the sentence is structured you

say I'm not calling for the slaughter of

white people at least for now so in this

case so yeah this was the court case

this one specifically was just saying to

if you didn't catch it let me find this

he's saying here is that if serious

changes are not happening to address

South Africa's fundamental problems

chaos and violence can ensue which is

beyond the scope of his control and the

media tried to twist that into making it

seem like he was the one called that was

going to lead the violence and it wasn't

the case yeah the guy singing shoot the

board who won't rule out uh killing

white people in the future is uh I mean

it's it's insane if we're gonna go by

court cases

it's already established in the South

African courts that shoot the boar is

not a form of hate speech and is not a

literal uh slogan to go and kill people

uh determine that it's it's not hate

speech so therefore there's clearly no

racial animus at play there yeah but the

reason they determine that is because

they couldn't establish even one link

between that song and someone getting

killed not even one it's like it's still

clearly talking about killing white

people

um no it's not talking about killing

white people because as malema himself

said in that court case during the

apartheid days when militants were

fighting against the government when

black police officers used to come into

their uh into their places where they

were living right they would say the

boars are coming they weren't referring

to individuals of their race they were

first I mean it was literally a race war

yeah I know they were talking well

they're referring to the boars are just

what black people thought of as the

government in the system it was wasn't

that they were enduring apart side it's

not like they were like uh sharing the

same subway with white people and they

hated them on a personal level that's

you you have a problem with black people

and brown people and whatever that's not

where anything on their part was coming

from all they understood bored to mean

in the context of that was the system of

apartheid the police the armed forces

the government all things they were

fighting against in the context of a

patriotic and nationalist armed struggle

so to sit here and say that they're

referring to individual white people

when literally almost every single

person has ever sang this song has

clarified it's not literal been

translated into English that's the

Optics fucking that's all that is okay

well well hold on

if it's the case that it's literal

Patrick right you need to at least show

me one case or a few cases minimum right

where the singing of that song has

inspired people to go out and kill white

people why have they not killed any

white people as individuals because

they're already provided the data that's

in this book kill the poor that after

that you have these hope high profile

situations where King ANC or eff people

sing these songs you do see an increase

you do see an increase there but that

could easily be a coincidence and that's

that's just not true either that's just

that's just Patrick Patrick only two

percent of all farm killings could be

said to be political or race maybe I

don't know you're saying that okay

Patrick can you give me a case where one

eff person killed a white person okay so

uh yeah let's take a look at this here

how many how many white people have the

eff members actually killed well now

you're adding once I go to start

answering what you first said now you're

you're adding uh extra things

oh easy easy so this guy knew tooth go

uh qna 28 serving a life sentence for

the murder of Godfrey Frederick Lunds

here are that's a pretty cool name uh

rest in peace on August 22nd 1992. so so

the firearm ammunition suitcase he stole

uh the guns to defend his community from

the that he sold the guns to defend his

community from the what year was this

Freedom Party

Chun said his accomplished in uh what

year was this Patrick um so this is this

is 92.

1992. okay I asked you eff have any eff

members killed white that's what I was

saying is that you added that on like

when I was like

you're trying to say that this was

because of the song No it's like you

start you like applied an extra

qualifier I don't know what you were

trying to look up I was reading so this

is the 19

case of someone who killed I started

answering the first question you asked

me and then you like once I was already

reading things you interjected I don't

know what your channel

what your chat sends you okay so you're

trying to say that that is not sending

me anything here okay sure Patrick

you're trying to say that in 1992 as a

direct consequence of someone singing

the song a white person was killed right

yeah can you please elaborate more about

this case because I remember after form

tried to bring this up during court and

completely failed but I'm just saying

this is this is what I've heard yeah

yeah this was I think if if this is

pretty sure I'm pretty sure

we did not have Okay so article I read

linked it to the yeah linked it to the

song if that isn't the case okay but

again the best data point that I would

go for is is that yeah after the high

profile look we're just spinning our

Wheels on the same subject I'm saying

the same thing I've said multiple times

again if you just take a step back from

this like it's very clear there is an

atmosphere and a culture of anti-white

animosity in this country and it's it's

just so there there is a cool

criminals I mean the idea that is not

talking about white people there he's

just talking about the bar okay okay is

is there an atmosphere of heightened

anti-immigrant sentiment among black

people in South Africa let's indicate

the other yeah I've I've heard that

there is some yeah tribal towards each

other too but it's not just tribalism

there's a lot of different kind of

antagonisms in South African society

right now because the fundament because

people cannot make a living off of these

structures created under apartheid uh

you can you can politically eliminate

apartheid but when all of the economic

foundations of apartheid are still in

place and people have no way to have a

stable means of running any kind of

income yeah obviously that's going to

create a lot of anxiety desperate nation

and it's going to create a lot of

antagonism in your Society now how would

you remedy that situation since you

think the eff is so scary and genocidal

how is Patrick Casey think South Africa

should go about remedying that situation

the people who built uh I think I think

the Communist should be out of power

that's really uh what do you mean what

do you mean by Communists you just mean

black people DNC BFF I mean yeah

basically I think that when white people

ran South Africa it was a lot better so

yeah but obvious so do you you basically

think that black people should submit to

slavery people well black people came to

South Africa to that area voluntarily

there was slavery once upon a time but

most most a lot of the black people

there came after you know the boar and

the various other white people started

setting up civilization there why

because there was something happening

rampaging up and down Africa killing all

sorts of other tribes so yeah no I'm not

calling for slavery

but leaving out the part where uh Bantu

pastoralis after they were enslaved and

when they were free they became

subsistence farmers who own land we

weren't ravaging or killing anyone all

of their land got dispossessed that was

before yeah their land got dispossessed

in the late 19th century by the boers

and by the uh British Union of South

Africa 1913 1913 establishes that black

people cannot even buy or purchase land

in most of most of South Africa uh we're

restricting them on that level so you're

saying oh black people just came to

South Africa because white people built

up all these riches and stuff that's

only after they were dispossessed of

their original means of production and

land because you have have to remember

as much as hard white nationalists like

to say it's not true that black people

were chasing animals in the savannah or

whatever on a safari or whatever they

were agriculturalists experience

civilizations and then hold on hold on

Patrick the relatives is that they were

pastoralists they were mainly

pastoralists and agriculturalists who

yes did settle on land and live off of

the land right as Farmers that's how

most black people in southern Africa

were living before uh the system of

slavery and apartheid and so on and they

were only after they were dispossessed

of their land uh could that were they

forced out of desperation to go and work

for mines for the De Beers and other

globalist forms of financial Capital uh

for cheap basically slave labor right

only after they were their land was

taken away though and you're living that

part out you're making it seem like they

were just random naked people running

around in the forest and they they all

just ran to all the wells in South

Africa that's not true only after they

were dispossessed originally of their

land were they forced to migrate and

become wage laborers and that's the

story of all wage labor even in Europe

when medieval peasants had their own

land they didn't want to go work in

factories and shit they had to have the

enclosures and they had to be

dispossessed of their land to create

this kind of proletarianized population

so you're seeing a pattern that you that

that's seen elsewhere you are trying to

put this racial Twist on it to make it

to uh to make your white

internationalist ideology more

convenient but it doesn't line up with

the facts sign up with the facts

um okay so yeah you think that Africa is

the same civilizational aptitude as as

the West as white people nobody wait

when you say aptitude what do you mean

by that capability for civilization yeah

okay so a hundred years ago would you

have said that China

what's your view on that how do you how

would you respond to that um you could

just look at like the national IQ for

the the populations you're comparing the

national IQ is has been proven to be a

statistical fraud already by people like

Talib it literally means nothing and and

all and like 105 or something out of the

185 countries in which they claim

there's a national IQ they didn't even

have any data they just extrapolated it

from other ethnicities so it's a

complete fucking bullshit scam that has

no basis in reality now uh even here's

the thing you take the IQ of an

illiterate Russian peasant in like 1910

would a Patrick Casey living in 1910

have believed that Russians had the

aptitude to become like the world's

second biggest superpower with nuclear

weapons with like uh one of the most

powerful militaries in the world you

probably wouldn't have believed that so

you can't sit here and say that you know

know what people's inherent potential is

everything you could have made

um you know maybe the Patrick Casey of

1910 would probably be aware that even

within a race there's variation in terms

of ideas because you're selective you're

selective about whose economics they're

probably not going to be the brightest

so yeah hold on hold on world's power

no I mean it just sounds really dumb

when I when I explain it Patrick Patrick

you thought many of Russia's peasants

who were illiterate so-called uh lower

caste whatever low IQ people would go on

to become great scientists and engineers

and nuclear physicists and stuff and

Military uh military leaders and

political leaders and so on you can't

say you know what the potential or

aptitude of a people is when you're

you're abstracting them from the context

of their Social Development and their

civilizational development and all we

know to prove that your perspective is

complete fucking bullshit is this your

ancestors for hundreds of thousands of

years lived in caves had no demonstrable

capability of civilization for modern

humans right that's uh hundreds of

thousands of years wow that's uh

supposedly modern Wars have existed for

200 000 we can narrow it down to tens of

thousands if you want and it'd be the

same argument for tens of thousands of

years your ancestors were living in

caves and I'm not sure exactly how

different their biological makeup is to

you so you have to admit one of the two

following facts either your biologically

do not have the aptitude to be sitting

here in front of a microphone as someone

who's literate who's read books and is

capable of uh

um mastering basic Technologies or you

have to say that you cannot judge or

measure someone's aptitude based on the

relative level of the development of

their civilization I don't I don't have

to choose between those two so what's

your argument

why are there differences in IQ between

populations you're saying tens of

thousands of years ago okay but the

reason why there are these IQ

differences is because of selective

processes over quite some time okay

right so you're talking about making

predictions ten thousands tens of

thousands of years you said when my

ancestors were in caves that's a common

like afrocentress talking point about

all of our ancestors were engaged dude

Patrick's all of our ancestors were in

caves for tens of thousands of years so

you're trying to say that all of the IQ

capabilities of Europeans only developed

like in the last 2000 years or so to be

generous because by the way for like the

last 1500 years or so Northern Europeans

I'm guessing that's where you derive

from were much less civilized than uh

Southern Europeans and people of the

Levant versus where I come from right so

how can you measure the app eyes

cultures got there they like picked it

up pretty quickly right what happened

when those Germanic barbarians

encountered the wealth of antiquity and

and Christianity well they did pretty

pretty damn well if you look at you know

encounter

is one way of putting it wow I mean look

I haven't seen too much of that from

Africa and now they've had contact

because here's the problem Patrick

the problem is hey little boy shut the

fuck up little boy shut the fuck up

you're gibbering you're gibbering and

jabbering Patrick I mean you're doing

the same thing the only the only kind of

comparable civilizational encounter to

the Romans uh with the northern

Europeans is something like the Islamic

world with the various African

civilizations on the eastern coast of

Africa which did produce things like the

Swahili culture which did show actually

show uh they did do well so to speak

European European colonialism European

colonialism Bears absolutely no

historical resemblance to any authentic

count and counter between different

civilizations and why because European

colonialism was barbaric it was just

looting instrumentalizing and completely

uh transforming entire peoples and lands

into tools right the Romans didn't

transform the Germans into tools or just

in an instrumentalist way the Romans

allowed people like Germans to get

citizenship that they didn't have any

essence of uh innate racial superiority

at least when it came to how they

understood the Roman Empire where they

pretty much allowed everybody to become

a Roman sure if you were italic or an OG

original Roman citizen maybe that gives

you a higher stature but there were so

many different kind of Roman emperors

who didn't come from that background can

you name me like any heads of European

colonial empires who didn't come from

European backgrounds none right so to

say that these are similar in uh and and

the nature sure of the encounter is just

betrays your complete lack of

understanding of History you talk so

much about Advanced IQ and you being the

superior European specimen but your

understanding of history is so

sophomoric and fucking yeah it's crazy

that I'm the superior European specimen

I mean it's wild that I just said that

like a million times yeah no that's you

describing me Listen Patrick I mean

Patrick the fact is the fact is you are

an embarrassment to your own race and

that's the truth and every in every

demonstrable respect you're an

embarrassment to your race your

knowledge of history in terms of your

knowledge of History like you should be

running a convenience store I don't

think you're really qualified to uh to

determine you know a fine specimen of of

the European race so uh yeah

I know it's rough living in the white

man's world and having to obey all of

these you know codes of Civility and and

whatever else but uh leave that to us

what do you mean codes of Civility

Patrick codes of Civility such as what

just constantly uh interrupting and

Jibber jabbering without lying anyone to

get an argument at the end of the day

because you're doing the same thing and

you're whining about it whining when you

talk over me I'm trying to get to the

actual substance of the arguments and

you're just mouthing off one nonsense

and then you start interrupting me when

I'm doing it everyone does it in these

fucking debates it's just the way the

game works think about it okay so

Patrick you lost on the so-called white

genocide question in South Africa

aptitude you lost on the question

there's yourself the victory can you can

you please

um choose a topic in which you think you

might Prevail in on every topic here me

on no topics you can't even establish

you can't even establish a single white

person killed by the eff not even one

okay you can't even establish even one

case in which malema's singing of the

kill the boar which he sang for like

over a decade now you can't even

demonstrate how that's led to the death

of even one white person no I said after

these people do it the the rise in uh

we're already we've already rehashed

this you know we can look at the Rises

the Rises you're talking about are so

insignificant they're statistically

meaningless no they're not no the data

statistically meaningless I'm not

reading them again so okay

at the end of the day you side with the

anti-white black Communists the people

that say that all white people are

criminals the people that are trying to

explicitly take white people's land and

you're saying that this regime is not

anti-whiting

so Patrick Patrick I know you want to be

a victim so bad Patrick I'm I know you

want to be a victim so bad no Communists

would say yeah fuck those white people

but you're a pussy and you're scared to

do that you won't even do that you won't

even be a real cop am I scared of what

am I scared of okay I'll say it I'll say

the magic words I will I will say it

it's not it's just I don't believe it

boy hey boy simmer down

boys

taking charge it's Constantinople the

fall of Constantinople all right know

your place listen let me tell you

something Patrick okay yeah again hey

white boy white boy the brown guy's in

charge now white boy white boy we're

doing karabogo now

Patrick

boy white boy

hey show your mouth

how do you square that with the

following fact just answer this for me

right if you can sustain that claim why

is it how do you on how do you cope with

this reality why is it that the entirety

of the left says that I'm a white

supremacist so much so that they deny

even my ethnic background they actually

say I'm a white guy pretending to be

Arab right it's Schrodinger's Haws I'm

white if you're a leftist and I'm black

if you're a right winger right so how do

you square that with the fact that all

nearly every leftist claims that I'm a

white supremacist and calls me a white

supremacist you're saying that I'm

anti-white to the core right both of

these things be true I'm just trying to

understand it if you've logic trapped me

no dude

how are you what you're asking me is how

can the left call you a white

supremacist but I can call you

anti-white okay

um left is the left it would be one

thing if I was calling you both of those

things but uh two separate parties can

reach how do you square that with the

reality

but I gained nothing up from being

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better and find her attractive

I gained Nothing by pretending uh not to

be I'll call anyone who disagrees with

them in any way and I'm aware there are

some differences probably not that many

between the way you see things and the

way a DSA person does so yeah they'll

just call you white supremacist the same

reason why they call you know Clinton

Creed walls or white supremacist it's

like yeah it's just a very silly uh it's

like scientologists calling people what

SPS it's just interesting you're outside

of the call okay so what do I stand

again what do I stand to gain from

disguising My Views Patrick what do I

stand to gain so I'm answering your

question and you're trying to shout me

down which is fine you can try to do

that just don't design it

sure what do I have to stand what do I

stand to gain from disguising this if

you're trying to smuggle in communism to

white people so we're going in circles

Patrick let me let me explain to you the

prospects of global communism right now

right we have the rise of bricks we have

the uh the uh you know this Insurgency

of of all these different kinds of

non-white peoples China's literally

overtaking the west and every

demonstrable regard I don't know if you

think Russia is white or not people are

undecided about that it seems like but

um you have Russia which is mounting a

full-scale military Rebellion against

globalism you have Iran on the right I

mean all of these non-white countries

are on the rise it's the that's

obviously going to determine in large

part the future of Communism on a global

scale right I don't need I don't need

personally to be a communist to smuggle

in a communist agenda or a pro-communist

agenda I don't need to lie right there's

no need for me to lie I could I could be

like a leftist here and just mooch off

of America while hating the majority of

Americans and nobody will do shit about

it I could literally talk shit about

white Americans and say I actually hate

white Americans and down with all white

Americans I can do that easily I'm not

going to get deported there's going to

be no ramifications

communism to the people you're trying to

relative right the whole communist

Outreach to maggot people wouldn't work

dude at least five times by now please

please pay attention but but you're but

it's a circular formula no it's not

circular communion

Communists in the first place

why am I why am I a Maga communist in

the first place

because you're a communist who doesn't

like

I don't know is that what I don't need

to learn

the focus on these identity politics

detracts from the uh struggle for

proletari revolution that would be my

guess I know you feel free that sounds

like that sounds like a principled

position that's not based in any kind of

enmity toward any race sounds like it's

just a principled position I still have

that and and have resentment toward

white people as well so so you're saying

do you think I have resentment toward

you Patrick oh uh if you ever sent me

towards me it's probably not because I'm

white it's because I quote tweeted you

and you didn't like that so probably not

because probably not because of Any

physical characteristic you possess uh

because none of them I would consider

Superior to me so the thing is Patrick

but there there we go right there so I

mean the fact that you needed to say you

tried out the superior line like you

have to be it's like an American history

access understanding of of you know a

Paleo Conor do you think you are better

than anyone yeah they're like oh so much

for that this guy considers himself the

master race right like that's just

something you're getting from movies

dude

um you know the fact that you needed to

specify like nothing about you Superior

okay yeah I mean that right there just

says it all Patrick it's like it's like

better than me man you're not better

than me just cause you're white nothing

about you is better okay all right guy

but but dude it's like it's like what

what am I resentful of what do I want to

be I mean like Jax I'll give you an

example my best friend my call right

like my closest political allies Jackson

Hinkle who's probably the whitest guy

like I know right he's more white than

you you're like Irish this guy's

actually

Hinkle Jackson Hinkle is founding stock

from the Mayflower white if I was

resentful against white people why would

he I mean Maga communism Has Two Faces

my face which is brown right no one's

denying it and then Jackson's it's the

whitest guy on Earth if this was about

being resentful against white people how

do you square that how where does that

fit in your worldview yeah if you have

personal resentments towards white

people not every white person dude black

people will be friends with white people

and still just happening it's not that

it's not that he's myself

dude is literally my closest political

Ally it's not just oh it's like a black

friend like in terms of this movie that

in terms of this movement or whatever

that's being created

me and Jackson Hinkle so to say this is

an anti-white movement is fucking

yeah well I think I think uh I've kind

of spoken over with this one it's

fascinating to watch you just repeatedly

try to prove to me that you don't hate

white people

while just getting like little Jabs in

you're not Superior there's nothing

physically about you that's Superior I'm

just okay

it's okay it's okay if you're lighting

your face you're trying to look white I

get it right Patrick Patrick literally

are so insecure about your skin color

it's crazy like you actually actually

care so much about this because here's

the truth Patrick that photo I used of

you didn't really look that much like

how your profile picture looks now and

dude you straight up look like at best

like an Italian guy in that photo I used

Straight Up anyone can pull I'll pull it

up right now and it's people can judge

yeah

he's right into your face and darkened

Vine yeah I'm aware dude that's why I'm

gonna show you the original song

is this what what would you guys say

this is to my chat this is the original

photo I used and he's saying that a

great deal of effort

that there I do look kind of dark in

that picture based on the light and I

don't care for the record but yeah I'm

just insecure about it it's crazy yeah

and yet I look darker in the thumbnail

that you made so

the fact that this psychologically

bothers if anything dude I was okay I'll

confess

I'm about to confess Patrick all I was

doing all I was doing wanted more

representation for like the majority of

white nationalists that's why I made you

so dark I just wanted to be inclusive

dude I wanted to accurately represent

the average white nationalist on the

internet that's why I'm not a white

nationalist is because I'm not white I

don't know dude it's just like you're

you're so like ass hurt about it it's

crazy I don't know again again so so put

it put it this way no examples no

examples of white people being

persecuted in South Africa okay like I

said there are no examples you can name

be very clear but uh no I'm I I am

extremely Talent if anything no no one

cares nobody cares nobody cares

speak this is so fucking stupid Patrick

you brought up nobody cares about your

yukubi and Babel about skin color

trying to get back to the topic which

you seem to think is not resolved

Patrick can you name one case of white

people's persecution in South Africa

besides a song that hurts their feelings

go ahead yeah I mean I could look at the

116 uh you know racial laws that

preference non-whites in other places

I'm aware it hasn't totally stripped

white people of their lands that would

be one it has done nothing it has done

nothing

I've done nothing to affect it it has

done nothing to affect the confiscate

your land hey because eventually it has

done nothing to

affects it has done nothing to affect

who owns South Africa's economy which is

more important than who's who's sitting

at the beer Democratic office yeah yeah

maybe maybe the South African government

does more affirmative action for like

better before the commies took over and

I think there's probably a middle ground

that could be achieved before between

what they have now and apartheid which

isn't coming back but uh

this is how I know you're historically

illiterate so the foundation of the

apartheid system were things like the De

Beers and international forms of

financial Capital tied with the British

the apartheid system only changed right

because when the British and the

Americans decided to uh because of

public pressure

um Institute sanctions against South

Africa that form of financial capital

saw that as an opportunity to deepen

neoliberal reform in South Africa

privatizations elimination of um forms

of protectionism and things like that so

that's what it that's why they got in on

it right when you sit here and say like

oh we could just go back to how it was

before this very same forces that were

responsible for apartheid Patrick the

same power behind the Parkside he was

the same Powers Patrick because the

powers behind apartheid was before now

you go on this boring historical tirade

putting everyone to sleep only to

misrepresent what I just said no ground

there's Patrick there's no middle ground

there's been no middle ground because I

said the opposite of that's right you're

such a fucking you're such a fucking

people there is no middle ground there's

no middle ground as far as bringing back

here's what a middle ground would look

like it would it would look like what

people are trying to to promote here in

America is doing away with uh you know

racial preferences that that favor

minorities I think doing away with that

you know you know what you know what

would um you know would strongly make

yeah you know what you know what hey hey

look

here's the thing dude I don't know maybe

it wouldn't work but at the end of the

day you want white people to lose their

Farms so no that's not what I said yeah

like 3 000 Farms total of millions of

white people three thousands of farms

connected to Global Monopoly Capital

right our responsible for like 80 of

South Africa's Agriculture and its

resources and shit so when you're saying

I want all what you're you're you're

just trying to make white people and

yourself a victim when there aren't when

they're not victims right well I'm not

I'm not part of South Africa so I'm not

a victim here

um yeah but but you're trying to like

feel you're trying to make it seem like

like your two neurons firing trying to

trying to connect the dots here yeah

okay no you're trying to you're trying

as a white person so so Patrick you you

have a white identity you have a white

internationalist identity and you're

trying to feel like you're a victim

you're trying to feel like what you

consider to be your own people in South

Africa are victims that they were my own

people I I feel some degree of kinship

but I not uh an africanor no well the

extent to which you feel kinship toward

them is how you're trying to make

yourself into a victim and you're just

fucking not it's because no I'm not okay

so but it but if you share kinship with

people in South Africa who you are

claiming are victims right then

obviously in some sense part of you is

victimized

well then you don't share kinship with

them

that's probably what you're trying to

get at what you're failing to get at so

so let's get down to the substance here

the laws that exist on the books within

South Africa that um make white people

less likely to get like DMV equivalent

jobs sitting around being government

employees I'm not sure eliminating any

of that affirmative action is going to

substantially change anything at all I

think you're going to have to address

the Looting uh the privatizations the

neoliberalism of the South African

economy the fact they have a private

Reserve Bank that doesn't serve the

interests of The Sovereign economy of

South Africa but serves the interests of

international uh Financial Capital

whimsically it's a private central bank

right you claim you're a Paleo

conservative but now you're a big fan of

things like that so when you're talking

about when you talk about the

deficiencies tell me about paleo

conservatism but I know paleo

conservatives are the ones who are like

claiming to be ants globalist against

the FED against the private central

banks that rule over the Western

economies things like that but in the

case of South Africa you're all for the

two beers you're all for globalism I

have a number of political ideologies

that way you could describe Ron Paul

libertarianism okay so you've got yeah

you got a real precise

to be clear you want to talk about why

South Africa is bad it's because black

race Communists took over uh they are

targeting white people you have people

in high positions of power it's a vague

that's a fake this is a vague uh

statement the thing about killing white

people they won't rule out actually

killing white people in the future uh

they refuse to take pledges to do so

when I provided you with documentation

of this you were accusing me of the team

this was a stupid God should answer yeah

this is a stupid base this is my stupid

form dude this is a stupid dude right

here and uh right now oh my God they're

gonna say all white people are gonna get

killed in South Africa they're being

killed and everything

on account of their race you can scrape

all the obscenities at me that's that

you want but like this is the this is

you're not actually backing up your

arguments it's not because you know the

CIA or the white tethers or whatever as

you've claimed they are the Whites

others they're white tethers white

internationalists from like Ireland or

Australia I don't know where the fuck

these people are from I want to believe

why genocide is is happening well maybe

I have one of them right Patrick Casey

who knows Patrick Patrick well I would

call you probably a Trader but anyway

Patrick here's the problem right we are

seeing a uh uh resurfacing of the

bullshit white genocide in South Africa

claim at a time in which Africa and the

specifically in the situation in the

Sahel is rising against the west and you

think that's purely coincidental or what

you don't have any suspicions about that

looking at the super chats what was the

question you had you don't think it's a

coincidence that this is resurfaced at

the time in which uh the sahelism

yes I think the reason why it resurfaces

is because you know you have the eff

rising up and uh malema is saying these

things and it's just something that's

always it's been it's been saying since

the 90s

to be clear this has been a song you

have like a new thing and yeah then

people are concerned this is a song that

has been sung since like almost for like

100 years now right since like the uh

60s or whatever right not not exactly

100 but whatever it's been sung for a

long time of black communist triumphing

over over white people yes and they

still sing it and the people who sing it

have said let me give you a hypothetical

let me give you a hypothetical and they

refuse they refused to rule out

you know they're going to kill masculine

white people all right all right all

right so let's say there was a song uh

from the American Revolutionary War

where they said we're gonna kill the

Brits and stomp them out are they

talking about average British people or

the Redcoat uh armed soldiers situation

would be very it would be very different

if British people still owns like a lot

of the the industry and there was a

sense of like real resentment there and

there were programs to get you know the

wealth from British people and to take

it away from it you know it's an

entirely you're really bad at drawing

comparisons here this is a fine but the

thing is Patrick Patrick Patrick but

here's the thing

my argument okay instead of babbling if

you're actually committed to this so

here's the thing Patrick you can say the

situation is different but if you are

willing to admit that kill the Brits

within the context of a revolutionary

war doesn't mean individual British

people then if you can say that might be

true for kill the boar under the

anti-apartheid struggle we have to

evaluate what the continuation of

singing that song could mean now now it

could mean for example a a patriotic

song as a callback to this struggle in

the past but in the case of continuity

with that stroke we have to ask the

question why does the eff think that the

militants of that patriotic struggle

should be continued is it because they

want to kill white people or is it

because they recognize the fact that on

the economic level which is fundamental

nothing has changed and the struggle is

continuing except instead of instead of

just fighting against a political

institution of apartheid they are

fighting against the interests of Global

Monopoly capital and its chills fighting

against the interests of white farmers

of just yeah the culotte class

essentially so

here's the thing but but I'm going to

give you I'm going to give you the

relevant information on white Farmers

okay 44

000 so-called commercial Farmers tiny

minority of white people okay and my

white people are already only like what

seven percent South Africa so of those

44 000 are commercial farmers who own uh

like 80 of all of the agricultural land

in South Africa now here's the problem

close about 6.7 run Farms about 2500 or

so right 3 000 or so

they are responsible for like 80 percent

of the Agricultural Economy sorority of

the white farmers are not actually in

the crosshairs of the eff because the

amount of land that they own is very

small they always frame it in racial

terms so yeah but but the reason they do

that is because the Monopoly Capital the

Monopoly agricultural uh businesses are

a Vestige of the apartheid era meaning

that struggle was not continued so the

reason they're still singing this song

and talking about boars or white people

is because they're referring to their

remnants of an actual real white

supremacist system and that's what it

was you would agree with that obviously

right that it was that or is that just

the buzzword white supremacy I mean yeah

you could probably use white supremacy

yeah

I hope you would so so that's the

problem you would yeah okay I mean we

really just are not on the same page if

you think that a guy who says that all

white people are criminals I mean that's

that's like something that there's no

way around that that is entertaining an

entire group of people in a title race

as as you know bad essentially so when

malema says what's the context of malema

saying all white people are crazy people

who would go to you know through these

mental gymnastics to rationalize this

all of this disgusting language and

these policies in the whole entire

situation or people think you're taking

things

if every position you hold is not

motivated by a hatred of white people

okay but you're making some things up so

malema in 2011 did not say all white

people and criminals the he said he was

referring to some whites and actually

the correct grammatical structure of it

he wasn't saying all white people are

criminals he was referring to a very

specific portion of white people who are

turning land into game farms right who

are um gobbling up all the land and uh

things like that he's not talking about

all white people he didn't say that he

just took what he said out of context

and added all in a completely uh made up

way

the whites have turned our land into

game five yeah I don't know the idea

that this guy is like so you're just

being so literal

literal literal it reminds me of of how

liberals interpret Trump's remarks and

shit he's like if Trump says when Trump

says oh they're rapists and they're

criminals and like oh he means all

Mexicans that's obviously not what he

meant he's just speaking in a kind of

popular Common Sense way and you're

reading into it in a really textualistic

literal like bad faith fashion why to

make yourself feel like a fucking victim

if you're such a fucking victim living

in the west if you certainly if you

truly want to go with the narrative

here's here's why it's so disingenuous

if you're such a fucking video I've

already explained why I am not where

were you where were you when it came to

the Dutch Farmers where were you when it

came to the Dutch farmers in the

Netherlands because you talk about white

people being victims but it seems like

you don't give a fuck about the actual

white working classes in any country who

actually are fighting against the ruling

capitals class I don't care about the

white working class in any country what

if have we even discussed it because

you're because because you're a

disingenuous you claim that you're

sympathetic you're claiming you're

you're sympathetic with white boards but

you don't care about the white working

class even in your own country I mean

what are you even talking about here

yeah again you're throwing the

accusation out here I'll reiterate what

I just said which is uh what are you

basing that off of but you just said I

don't care about the white working class

of any country

yeah maybe maybe I heard something maybe

I just hallucinated maybe I just

hallucinated okay if you're not willing

to commit to that argument then we can

go oh yeah I don't think I said that so

if if you care if you care about the

white working class right I'm sorry if

you care about white people so much why

are you never at the Vanguard of like

white working class struggles for

example why are you always outspoken

there like the Dutch farmers who are

fighting against the corporations and

their government or the Canadian

truckers where are you when it comes to

things like that supported that I don't

live in either of those fucking

countries dude so yeah so those don't

have your sympathy or what sympathy for

them yeah sure so you're going to talk

about fucking a minority of Boars in

South Africa but you don't give a fuck

about white Working Class People rising

up in their own countries to make life

better for them and here we here we are

again this is very tedious I know it's

hard for you to keep up with what I'm

saying in in this instance of this

particular instance it was like a

one-word answer uh you're saying that I

don't care about you know these other

groups like the Canadian truckers I

literally just said that I did I

literally just said I supported that I'm

sure I tweeted talked about it I

probably did a whole stream on it I

don't know what else I can I can really

do to help these people in other

countries you're saying I don't give a

fuck yeah I do I care about the

situation in many you know Western

countries but yeah but the problem

Patrick is like

focusing 90 of your energy is a bunch of

race jibber jabber nonsense but when it

comes to the actual confrontation

between those in power and those who are

waging a righteous struggle against it

even in your own country what have you

done to contribute to the victor history

of the American people over globalism

can you explain that because malema

right now is shaking the globalists in

South Africa to their core he's shaking

them they're trembling in his midst

right there is no equivalent to that in

America Patrick Casey certainly doesn't

even fucking come close to it but you're

just sitting here fear-mongering about

him while white working-class people in

America are dying of fentanyl of neglect

of Despair they're killing them yeah I

do Social Media stuff so most of my

contribution has been like talking about

this stuff raising awareness uh yeah no

it's not you're all your shit is a bunch

of jibber jabber culture War nonsense

all you talk about you do you do the Ron

DeSantis oh the wokeness is a new

religion or some shit like that why

don't you actually speaking this is not

a religion everything that you've come

at me with has been so baseless mad at

this whatever you're you're bitching

about woke you're bitching you're only

bitching about what

you claim to be do you claim to be a

dissident just so you don't say I put

words in your mouth

how can you claim to be a dissident if

you don't put at the Forefront seizure

of the fundamental means of production

dissolution of the Federal Reserve

established by the state of Sovereign

Bank how can you how can you be a

dissident

you know what's really funny is is that

uh a lot of a lot of people Leonard do

call for that and they don't get banned

from things uh they don't get canceled

in society in the same way so yeah you

want to know the significant difference

I'll explain that to you why Patrick

I'll actually explain why that issue

that actually gets you super canceled

yeah you want to say reports like the

proletariat Uprising you could get a job

at Google right you could get a job in

the government you can get a job

you're like me you're looking at it

there's no other option other than this

so uh yeah

let me know when you're finished with

your I am finished yeah I'm finished I

think I made a pretty good case okay so

now that you're finished while you can

make phrases about uh supporting this or

that when you tangibly actually do pose

a threat that you're able to do this in

political terms they come at you harder

than anyone else all of the laws for the

persecution of American citizens on the

basis of political belief if you didn't

know this started out against the labor

movement started out against the

Socialists and the Communists they were

the first victims of it now you can say

you're going to get canceled for saying

you love Hitler or some shit whatever

but when you actually tangibly pose a

threat to the system they don't just

cancel they fucking kill you dude Fred

Hampton that guy in Chicago they

straight up killed that guy these people

disappear and die when they threaten the

reign of Monopoly Capital so yeah you

can say it and speak with it

hold on I'm gonna finish little boy

but when you won't speak on it but when

you both speak on it and show that you

have some like strength behind it and

you start organizing people around it

it's a different fucking story little

boy when you both speak on it and show

you all the strength Destiny's shoulders

what are you talking about you're like

five three no the the argument which you

didn't let me finish which is responding

to that and then you yelled over me that

way I wasn't finished with my point when

you actually challenge the regime which

is calling for you know the seizing the

means of production it's not that's not

what challenging the regime is like you

said you didn't let me finish

you can't just say it you can't just say

it you have to take tangible steps to

making that a message tangible through

organization so there's a difference you

don't just say it you organize you

actually build power that gives weight

behind those words and that's what gets

you fucking killed okay so like I said

you didn't let me finish the point now

what is your argument in response go

ahead

I would say that the person who's by far

challenged the regime the most in recent

memories Donald Trump well they haven't

killed him at least not yet so the idea

that in jail

probably what standard are even putting

up here does this even apply to you for

for the for the crime I'll get to that

I'll get to that let me respond to the

point about Trump and then we'll get to

the thing about me or the crime of

giving expression to the possibility of

dissident politics in America it's not

enough for him to get killed although

they probably would if they could and

get away with it they're trying to throw

him in jail do you know how much he's

getting indicted and shit right now with

the FBI coming after him can you name a

single president in history who has been

indicted as on criminal charges ever

so if you're trying to make the case to

me that the system is going after Trump

you actually don't need to because uh

yeah so but you're saying that you're

saying that no they didn't kill him they

kill you you specifically said that when

you actually are taking substantive

material action against the regime that

the regime kills you you didn't say that

just happened to a lot of which is

happening yeah that okay but you're

talking about killing you uh yeah no I

yeah well that that has happened now on

the business of uh me personally I I am

not well known enough I my voice is not

Amplified enough I don't have people on

the ground yet organizing and talking to

Ordinary People and stuff so as at this

stage I mean I have been censored like

crazy right they have done things like

that to that which is crazy right I get

so deep platform and censored and yet

I'm not being racist I'm not attacking

the Jews I'm not being pro-hitler but

for some reason they're still doing it

it's pretty crazy but in any case right

when it comes to taking tangible steps

you can't just do what Trump does either

and just give a platform to the

possibility of this unlike Trump you

actually have to go to war with the

globalist economically you actually have

to uh forward political programs find

them fundamentally he's he hasn't taken

any real positive step politically Trump

all he did was clear the way for

dissident politics which he did not

really himself contribute a lot to in

terms of tangibly uh fulfilling I mean

his foreign policy he gave a lot of

leeway to the neocons when it comes to

his domestic policy he just let these

GOP do whatever the fuck they want the

reason they're after Trump isn't because

of what he's done politically it's

because what he has made politically

possible

I mean yeah Trump is under attack from

The Establishment thank you for thank

you for that yeah I agree I don't know

where you're going with that but yeah

well why did you bring up Trump in the

first place well they didn't kill him

well the standard that you initially set

up was that the system like you're

basically saying I'm not a real

dissident because if you actually

challenge the system they'll kill you

you're not but not only are you not a

real estate there you go see if I was in

a position I'd be complaining that

you're talking over me but uh

keep that in mind next time you start

whining about but Patrick let me talk

let me talk

I could just keep talking about you

right it's just like you being

anti-white you can't admit to it you

can't admit to the fact that you're

talking over me okay I I will admit on

record that sometimes I talk over you

when I perceive I got your point but if

I didn't get your point please continue

speaking

all right I mean I was I was trying to

rehash things about look you said I'm

not a real dissident because if you are

a real dissident then the regime kills

you that's what you said you gave Fred

Hampton as the example okay well so what

I got from that is you saying that the

regime has to either kill you or try to

kill you for you to be a real assistant

I mean that's basically what you had

said at this point you had said nothing

about getting locked up when I provided

Trump as the example of someone who has

actually challenged power and has not

been killed the reason I did that is to

say that you have to the regime has to

be like actively trying to murder you

setting that as the standard for

dissidents is stupid because it doesn't

apply to again the person who is quote

been the biggest threat to globalism

you said oh we'll throw them in jail

okay well what what are they so there

are more criteria at play here it's not

just wow huh so if you're done

Babble for like another 75 seconds

wasting time and I already know I I

don't think you actually understood

anything I said I already had digested

your points there was nothing you

finished you didn't finish any point so

to address okay are you ready to shut up

even when it's like one word answers

okay are you ready to shut up because I

I digested your point before you were

ready to shut up I mean

what are we even discussing here so

Patrick Patrick my response is this

you in very bad faith are shoehorning

what I originally said into some kind of

like absolute statement of propositional

logic when if you interpreted it with a

minimum of good faith you'd understand

that if you actually are on the road to

uh challenging the system in any kind of

way that culminates in things like that

I'm not saying you're not a dissident

because you haven't been killed yet I'm

saying you're not a dissident because

you're not walking in the footsteps of

the people who did eventually get killed

and come under attack nothing you say

actually yes

I literally let you finish your points

someone off to finish mine

I'm such a number and you can't even

restrain yourself you cannot even

restrain yourself Patrick Patrick you

could not even restrain yourself you

would have to sort it out with your cunt

mouth constantly speaking because will

you commit to allowing you to finish my

point are you just going to turn this

into a shit fast intimidating me or

talking about trying to figure out

Patrick are you going to commit to

allowing me to finish the point I think

you're the kind of guy who goes on your

Discord and begs people to like your

tweets so you can ratio someone and in

fact I've seen leaks from your Discord

of you saying just that

Patrick Patrick Patrick literally

literally literally Patrick

straight up straight up dude Patrick

straight up Patrick again I've seen that

picture of you up to Destiny's back

you're not tough at all um so you want

to huff and puff you wanna when we need

in person we'll see who's tough okay

when we meet in person we'll see who's

tough so you're talking a lot about how

you want to suck my cock and shit

because you're no one cares about that

Patrick

Patrick stop being such a

Patrick stop okay now let's get to the

actual substance of the debate will you

commit hey boy will you commit to

allowing me to finish my point as I

allowed you or you want to turn this

into a shit faster I just roast the shit

out of you in your non-existent chin I

don't know you're the one you're the one

that's getting mad uh you're not gonna

get under my skin that's the difference

here I think I will I think after the

debate you just scream into your pillow

like a fucking repressed like all you

other fucking uh

and I'm not interested just to be very

clear I'm not interested so yeah I like

women you probably

you know you want my pillow that's

that's where where's that coming from

where where is that where is that coming

from where's that from I don't care for

the bachelor shit I just don't like you

want to talk about the debate or do you

want to get to like oh I did you're

talking about pillows and stuff where is

that coming from it's like do you want

to actually get to the fucking debate or

not

we'll see right now you look like a

bitch who's running away from the

substance and I'm trying to rope you

back in yeah that's the difference

between dude you're like a ballerina

you're like a ballerina on your fucking

tippy toes trying to yeah you're trying

to fucking maneuver your way out of the

substance of the debate talking about a

bunch of other nonsense now you cannot

restrain yourself from uh not allowing

me to finish my point I already admitted

I interrupted you and I let you finish

your point where you do the same

interrupting me the whole time I've been

interrupting you I I admitted that I uh

interrupted you and then I let you

finish your point you didn't let me

finish my point so are you going to

actually uh debate me or are you going

to keep uh just mouthing off yeah I mean

what's left to debate here I don't know

it's about whether you're a fraud or

you're a real dissident whether I I uh

you know adhere to infrared houses I

qualify as no no by any reasonable

standard are you a dissident or are you

a fraud that criteria is like you're

having reasonable criteria yeah you're a

shill you're a shill for the globalists

for international Capital you claim that

there's you you first you couldn't even

admit there was a white genocide in

South Africa even though that's the hill

all of your supporters have been dying

on you could have name a single example

of real persecution by white people in

South Africa you couldn't actually

explain to me any real tangible

connections between the singing of this

song and the death of even one white

person you couldn't even establish one

member of the eff who killed the white

person you completely ignored how Julius

malema several times says he doesn't

want to kill white people there's way

more evidence suggesting that he doesn't

than the contrary you ignored you

ignored all the relevant evidence that

according to afriform who you cited only

two percent of farm murders are racial

or political in nature you completely

don't understand anything about the

history of South Africa your

understanding of white identity is

nebulous and groundless you claim that

I'm anti-white there's not a single

point that stands to argument or Reason

to follow that line of argumentation

through I am willing to debate you on

any of these things so long as we can

both get our points and I admit I've

interrupted you interrupt me but the

problem is when I let you speak and then

I speak in response you just go continue

interrupting me complaining again but I

was actually just responding to your

dissident point which is what you wanted

to discuss and you started talking so

will you let me finish my point will you

let me finish my point will you let me

finish my point what you're gonna do

with me don't cry when I do it to you

will you let me finish my point

I know your place

just finish my point you're not a real

dissident not least convincing attempt

being being like powerful or

intimidating I've ever seen so okay boy

shut your mouth now and sit down yeah so

you're asking me to like let you talk in

good faith and then you're like yeah

that's right bitch like yeah you are a

bitch you are a bitch

Patrick do a side profile turn for us

right now

no let's do it Patrick side profile turn

right now side profile turn right now

battery side profile chin check let's do

a chin check chin check

come on you're trying to like chin and

jaw check me no I don't think so I've

got a chin it's right here there you go

where's yours oh you got it all covered

up okay well I'll cover how how long do

you think my beard is this is like beer

that's how long it is it's long enough

long enough to cover your cover your

chin so okay do you want me to go shave

right now for you Patrick

no I don't care yeah okay so Patrick

finish my point okay

using you of being a fraud not because

you haven't get gotten killed and you

said I create established a Criterion

which anyone who actually tangibly

threatens the system gets killed

taken to that conclusion you are nowhere

close to arriving at that kind of

conclusion in reality just by what you

say right you don't actually challenge

the powers that be in any real way in

terms of your words alone right so when

you climb yourself a dissident but

you're not talking about Monopoly

Capital you're not talking about the

people who actually own and run the

fundamental basis of how we feed

ourselves and clothe ourselves and

actually live and have subsistence you

are a fraud you're complaining about

culture War stuff about how corporations

are not amicable to your vision of what

culture should be that's fine right but

at the end of the day you defend the

status quo you are incapable you should

stop complaining about a system that you

are unwilling to overthrow in any

tangible way

set up a a you know Paradigm we're in

and if you're not a communist if you're

not trying to seize the means of

production for the proletariat then

you're not a threat to the system okay I

just agree with that I don't think

that's a good model for society and what

I will say though is just in the in

terms of talking people who say what I

say face a high a far higher price uh to

they pay a far higher prices

either you know you're wondering about

me uh you know talking over you and

you're doing the same thing okay I

didn't know you were finished okay yeah

what I'm just trying to say is like look

Chapo Trap House you probably don't

consider them radical enough but you can

be pretty left-wing on economics and you

won't really get censored off of too

much

um again you can have jobs in polite

society that isn't particularly

controversial but if you uh believe that

there are you know I don't know only two

genders or worse you believe in HPD and

you express these things you take a

stand-in defensive historic Western

demographics uh you will pay a higher

price and that's just objectively true

there's no way around that

I don't want to talk about Chapel trap

house which is a Democrat chill front

and the only reason they haven't gone

canceled is because they're Democrats uh

you probably not have known that right

but let's increase the time scale to

like 100 years right not just like the

past five years we were talking about

now I'm not I'm not going to talk about

like the history of yeah if you want to

talk about like the 60s and the 70s yeah

the left was absolutely getting cracked

down on and I supported that like the

Black Panthers I support those guys

getting getting exactly

this is what I'm trying to say but we

had the remnants of a healthy Society so

it's like just because it's what are you

rebelling against what are you rebelling

against you I'm glad I got you saying

that so when these same systems of

repressive apparatuses which first

targeted Communists start getting used

to Target anyone who's not in line with

the cultural agenda of Corporations and

then you whine and complain and say well

I supported the creation of these

institutions I just don't like how they

eventually turned out and proved what

they actually yeah in nature ID would

probably have the police but that

doesn't mean I'm going to agree with the

decisions

Society might have a government but that

doesn't mean that I'm against uh you

know that I support this government but

but it's very interesting but little boy

we're not talking we're trying to

overthrow the order what remained of

historic America right radical black

lives this group what this Marx is

feminists all of these people yeah I

support the government cracking down on

those people I absolutely we're talking

about people like uh

those people kind of won they didn't get

all of the economic stuff that they

wanted

um but in terms of like the gay race

communism yeah that's basically yeah

so a little boy so so Casey right

you are just saying oh the police and

government but police and government

were not enough they had to create a

deep state to fight communism they had

to create extra constitutional

extra-legal methods of political

repression that weren't even in line

with the Constitution really by the way

according to like people like Ron Paul

who I respect so when you're dealing

with that kind of situation you say I

support this move

maybe it turned into that's different I

would I would say that the Deep state is

a little bit you know it entails a lot

more and entails the Civil Rights

bureaucracy which came from the people

who were you know that I guess you're

kind of aligned with they're the 60s and

70s radicals you mentioned the case for

example a lot of this stuff paved the

way for the Deep State

um but yeah I mean you know you're

talking about different things so when

you're talking about the Black Panthers

they were actually not part of the Civil

Rights bureaucracy that was a completely

different phenomena if you're just

talking about a lot of the Civil Rights

Movement it's not really what I'm

talking about when I'm talking about

Communists I'm talking about the first

red scare not the second one after World

War II which was actually the impetus

for the formation of the FBI the

imprisonment of Labor leaders and social

leaders like Eugene V Debs I'm not sure

how Eugene Debs was undermining Western

Civilization by uh calling for the

abolition of child labor and calling for

uh American workers and Farmers to seize

their own country

um you can you can try to make the case

for that though I'll let you after I'm

finished so when we're talking about the

Deep state which was created

fundamentally against communism and

that's what it was created against yeah

they absorbed they had a lot of

progressive elements but progressivism

is not communism progressivism was the

ideology of the Monopoly bourgeoisie the

Rockefellers Ford Foundation sure but

they actually funded Progressive

movements as a counterweight against

Soviet soft power after World War II

they funded Modern Art they funded the

Frankfurt School of of cultural Marxism

so on so that was against the Soviets

right they uh fund funded all these kind

of culturally open uh movements to

undermine the supposedly totalitarian

red fascist societies uh on that were

aligned with the Soviet Union so blaming

this on communism it just doesn't stand

to the historical evidence unless by

communism you're like talking about the

Fabian socialists or the progressives or

whatever which has nothing to do with

actual communist real Communist States

real communism yeah that sounds like a

question Patrick

Are you seriously trying to argue that

the Soviet Union wasn't the real

communism

Are you seriously talking over you

before you get your point and I just

want to ask a quick question just really

quick you're seriously trying to argue

and mock when I call the Soviet aligned

communist like world real communism what

what else is communism if not the real

existing Communist States like what are

you trying to say

no I'm not that's the whole thing is I'm

not interested in getting into a debate

about what real comments I'm using it in

a very colloquial like Common Sense way

though no communism well like well like

the people calling themselves actual

Communists parties like the actual

Communist party rules societies yeah

those were the communist societies your

nebulous Association of the FBI and CIA

with Communism is is much less tangible

than an actual fucking Communist Party

ruling over a country calling itself as

such so yeah go ahead

was there a question in there somewhere

or was just a bunch of historical

information well you kind of mocked my

use of the word like the actual

Communists and I was curious where you

were coming from with that are you

saying this it's more common sensical to

say that uh the Rockefellers were

Communists as opposed to like the actual

Soviet Union I have no idea what you're

talking about no I'm not saying well so

what were you mocking then when I said

the real communists

real communism hasn't been tried so I

just heard that it had nothing to do

with what I said you fuck you fuck

guitar are you just like a right-wing

NPC who spits out dialogue Loops

you have no awareness of the actual

context in which you say this shit

you're such a fucking idiot

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I'll let you spit your point out go

ahead

what was the question again am I am I a

right wing NPC okay yeah no I'm just not

interested before before I asked you why

you were modeling and you just want to

keep talking about it so yeah yeah so

did you want to finish your earlier

points or no remember what we were

talking about is this okay

so know you've like I forgot all the

other things you said about me on

Twitter quote tweets you want to go

you've you've gotten destroyed on every

topic so far so I want to give you more

no chances to win

the court hearing was a BBC interview

and it turns out it was actually like I

was I was thinking of something

completely different

here gotcha I had I had in mind a

completely different uh interview he was

in yeah I know you're right about

everything I've yeah totally you lose I

mean I mean being being charitable like

being charitable to your case being

shared with your case

it's like it's like Patrick being

extremely charitable to your case you

would actually say that you lost

Patrick Patrick to be charitable to you

maybe

um I didn't know what you were referring

to when it came to the uh the what I

thought was the interview was actually

from the court case about it yeah yeah

yeah yeah so to be charitable like that

is one thing that might have been

mistaken on my part but literally every

other substantive point of contention I

have prevailed on and you have lost on

God that happened yeah it is like for

example when you try to say that um that

there's early stages of a genocide in

South Africa yeah I couldn't actually

follow that argument through I didn't

like experts who say that it's happening

who have visited the country

um so you're gonna make an appeal to

Authority now what do I care if you call

them experts what makes them experts

on an international like genocide watch

they study genocide right so do they

probably say the oyers in China are

being genocided why would I care about

that I'd have to look into it yeah yeah

it's another fucking claim that they say

uh you know they they make all these

genocide claims any anytime the regime

wants to delegitimize any geopolitical

region or or country they say oh it's a

human rights genocide violation and like

nine out of ten times it's fucking

bullshit just like Assad's chemical

weapons just like how Gaddafi was

killing his own people and now South

Africa there's a genocide and we have to

step in and rescue the De Beers Monopoly

cat Financial Bankers in South Africa

and Rescue all of their assets and their

interests yeah but but no one associated

with the regime has actually said that

we've established that when you actually

look into it

yeah but if they're actually doing

anything about white genocide in South

Africa so actually you're on the same

time here's the thing here's the thing

if they do a huge 180 then then you know

maybe that should be caused yeah but

here's the thing here's the thing

mainstream media

actually say that because it takes so

little effort to disprove it that it

would be embarrassing for them but when

they're astroturfing it on social media

like how they are now and it's so

divorced from the facts on the ground

color ridiculous in addition to being

Brown that I find that a little

suspicious okay Color Me ridiculous that

I find that a little bit suspicious I

find it a little suspicious I mean it's

not even based in anything remotely

close to being the truth of what's on

the ground in South Africa and yet this

is what they're promoting it's being so

astral termed and stuff not only on

Twitter under Elon Musk but even on

Facebook I mean clearly something

inauthentic and inorganic is going on

here

I'm not really convinced not really

convinced all right well I think we've

covered the South Africa thing uh quite

a bit do you have any final things you'd

like to go into before we uh we can uh

we can cover manga communism we can

cover whether or not there's been any

successful uh challenge against the

regime and the powers that be besides

communism we can go into that kind of

stuff we can talk about why you're not a

white nationalist what are you an

identitarianist European ethno

nationalist which is like the same thing

in different words or what are you

so that's been the really tedious thing

about talking to you is I have to say

the same thing over and over again yeah

yeah but it's like it's like it's like

clearly I mean if if you feel so

strongly about this topic in particular

I kind of feel and then based on the

pattern of like no I don't this is not

like gonna hold up in court I'm in good

faith asking you like you do seem to be

associated with communities that you

know probably could be characterized as

uh white supremacist or white Nationals

just in terms of like how they how I've

interacted with them like we've I've had

back and forth insults and banter on the

basis of race with them so it's like and

I they brought it up first not me so I'm

just kind of wondering is are you guys

just like uh

it's joking conservatives who don't care

about race that much or what are you

like because if you care so much about

racism I would guess you're a white

nationalist is that so unfair because

you have a very very simplistic like 60

IQ understanding of uh uh right-wing

audience please explain the intricate

and in season and and subtleties to your

ideology Patrick go ahead because you

just said

why nationalism uh do you have it in

kind of the

Headway from the regime means you're you

know they say about Steve Bannon Tucker

Carlson that said about me basically

anyone who's ever said anything remotely

positive about white people or whoever

has you know was ever advocated for

immigration restriction they would or

white nationalists now when it comes to

what people who actually Define

themselves as white Nationals what they

say is they want a white country for

white people like 100 white right you

don't want a white country like you want

to split up America they could want to

you know build it on you know establish

it in Greenland I don't know Ireland

somewhere

um and some people want that violently

most of them want it peacefully okay

okay

um well I don't see and then that's it's

kind of a variation of of national

divorce which is like

um political is the political non-racial

version where conservatives just say

well let's split up the country

um for the Reds and the blues and I have

the same objection to both which is that

it isn't negotiating it doesn't solve

problems if you actually could arrive at

that I mean if someone peacefully

created a non-world country

predominantly or only for white people

somewhere and again peacefully

peacefully

um yeah I would rather live there than

uh in in you know globalist American

hell okay

um but but I mean I wouldn't need it to

be 100 white um what it is uh with paleo

conservatism it's a little more

pragmatic it's about you know you can

restrict demographics right it's about

questioning you know where we are right

what Have We inherited um if your

political program is to kick out every

non-white person from uh America it's

probably not going to happen right there

are moral claims uh against that uh

there's logistical problems someone

could raise but uh really the issues

that I care about are uh the pragmatic

wins that I think the right could

achieve are net negative or immigration

or an immigration moratorium doing away

with uh preferences for non-white people

relative action we could talk about

doing away with things like this Theory

Banning the stuff that demonizes white

people and you know I mean basically Law

and Order those are these these are like

basic things that the right can win on

I'm very pragmatic because it's hard to

get anything done uh given the state of

things so so so what you're saying is

like this is not for white people

specifically

of sympathies for white people I have an

identity as a white person I'm cognizant

of the fact that when white people are

disproportionate you know targeted as a

group in a negative way such as through

a policy like affirmative action or

something like Dei that yeah as a white

guy should be against that and I can't

oppose that on the grounds that I'm

white

um you can also oppose it on the grounds

that it's a violation of like you know

colorblind well okay that's you can make

that okay

um but uh look at the end of the day if

someone someone doesn't have to be white

to be right wing that just doesn't refer

to the state of of like you know

politics I'm just sorry I don't mean to

cut you off but uh is your politics for

white people and for the white people or

is it um because I kind of feel like

you're warming your way out of it and

it's just like taking a middle position

uh my the policies I advocate for yeah a

lot of them would benefit white people

there are some that I would benefit or I

say would better good for the country

overall

but again it's like you don't have to be

white to to agree so so look at it you

don't answer me why to agree but it's

like in terms of your world view

was like

basically of the view that like uh

getting for America to become and it

should be maintained white right

basically so demographic change yeah

that's uh you you can phrase it however

you want you don't mind with like a

bunch of boards but but but you don't

mind if boars from South Africa come

here right

be fine with that there are cases to be

made against Mass European immigration

as well

or is that that's different they'd

probably be you know conservative but

look the fighting lines in American

society you have race ethnicity some

extent of religion political ideology is

a huge one

um there are white people who support

obviously support local supporters

hypothetical hypothetical like if a

bunch of people from uh Zimbabwe

candid States

all Republicans Pro Republicans and pro

right-wing would you support it people

are we talking like uh as many boars as

many who would be borers coming

employers are coming in this

hypothetical let's say let's say about 1

million

I wouldn't accept one million people

from anywhere in the world frankly okay

okay what's your limit what's your limit

as far as how many you would accept

anyone in the world like from Sweden or

something

of immigration and I think that net

negative immigration is a pretty good

policy certain number of people leave

the country every year making sure that

the number of people we bring in is is

uh less than that so you have net

negative um you know more people believe

than come in

I just want to be clear is there any

difference between 50 000 right wing

swedes coming to the U.S versus 50 000

right wing zimbabweans in your view

there is um if you look at the research

on ethnic diversity in society there's

tons of tons of research that's been

done on that

right it lowers levels of trust uh

destroys Community things like this so

you you believe that swedes are like

basically just because they're white

it'd be the same as anyone else I

believe that white people have more in

common with each other with some

exceptions right you look at the Balkans

they don't really get along that well or

didn't once upon a time but uh yeah I

feel like I I absolutely have more in

common with a right-wing Swedish person

and I've been there and I've met them

than I do with a right-wing guy from

Zimbabwe that doesn't mean and if you're

saying that's totally different if

you're saying that's on ethnic grounds

or that you look similar and so on

um referring to the fact that you look

similar then you know we can go there

but I kind of feel like it's like for

you it's because of ethnic genetic

proximity or whatever right so because

even though America's white

um there's a lot of minorities in

America who obviously don't would not

share the same Affinity to Suites right

so the reason people would probably

characterize you as a white nationalist

is because it's like you believe in

um you're basically supremacist right

I'm not sure listen to what you just

said the reason why people would care to

you characterize you as a white

nationalist is because you're a white

supremacist what the fuck are you even

saying here dude no you still have this

yes

why do you have something is like you

believe that white people

should their interests should be Supreme

over everyone else in America right what

does that actually mean though when you

break it down

there are not a wildlife immigration you

want to end critical race Theory

affirmative action

to be clear it's immigration from

non-white countries right

immigration moratorium overall like I

said that you if you if you took mass

immigration from certain European parts

of the country that could cause problems

part of me parts of the world that could

cause problems too now I would favor if

you're going to do immigration from

anywhere yeah I would favor European

immigration

um but you look at like Ukrainian

refugees for example they're probably

going to be pretty left-wing or even if

they're you know social personally

conservative they're going to vote for

the Democrats

um that the Russia you know the

Republicans was like you know they're

taking their orders from Putin or

something

I also don't want to import white people

over here if they're going to support

that's really interesting why does

advocate for an immigration moratorium

I've already said negative all right

you're definitely not a racist that's

really interesting you're like a total

Pro diversity Pro uh you know well let's

not let's not let's not go that far so

yeah yeah so anyway

um the reason this kind of things is

because uh I want to make it clear that

perspective on uh for example

immigration all these kind of things

you're not clear about like the

reasoning behind it like do you want

what's good for American society overall

or just a specification of Americans or

what did I just say about diversity what

did I just say about it diversity you

could say diversity is bad overall right

but

for all Americans is that your view or

actually something that Putnam found in

the Pluribus Unum that was the academic

treatment he did of the effective

diversity on uh levels of trust social

cohesion it's uh it actually is is bad

for everyone involved um people people

are less active in their own communities

uh even minority groups that was one of

his findings now the thing to keep in

mind here though is you can use claims

and you can appeal to the state of

America overall but when every other

group in the country is specifically

able to advocate for their interests the

idea that I'm going to be told that

that's like something wrong for me to

say well that actually I'm not here to

do that I'm just here to so you said you

believe in um deportations for certain

groups which group specifically

is the word I'm not deportation uh net

negative population right so people just

leave naturally on on their own as a

result which people would you think it'd

be better for them to leave

hate America people who hate our

greatest can you stop snaking around and

just say what you think or I don't

advocate for forcibly deporting anything

negative immigration means people people

leave every year regardless of how many

people we bring in some people will

leave the country some people will move

back to where they came from which

people Patrick which negative means that

that natural like people leaving

is you you know that's going to make it

negative because you're going to bring

in a fewer number of people then so so

Patrick which people though

the process is I would imagine it

applies to all Races that's something

that already happens now people leave

the country all the time but in order to

like get Negative

policies so you're hearing about it for

the first time yeah but in order to not

involve like finding like minority

groups and like putting them on that's

uh dude I'm not a liberal journalist I'm

trying to I don't know you're going to

see the point of my argument at the end

I'm not a liberal journalist trying to

cancel you I'm asking

policies which incentivize net uh net

negative immigration right so which

people

Lucy's incentivized leaving America

explain this to you again you wouldn't

even have to incentivize that to have an

immigration you would just have to bring

in fewer people and the people who would

leave naturally who would have left

naturally regardless of how many people

were coming in right for all of the

reasons I just mentioned

um so okay that's interesting so you do

believe in civil rights you believe in

equality for all Americans regardless of

their race

pretty that's a pretty uh you know

getting to that point is is definitely

important I'm pragmatic yeah

um I you know if you're running on an

election to like get affirmative action

for white people or something uh

probably not going to win but uh yeah

you know doing away with these race

preferences and and hiring and Academia

and so forth is is

you know it will win there's a lot of

things do you think do you think um

the action quotas are being placed

I think these are positions of real

power

and what you mean by real power okay for

example

I think there's a lot of affirmative

action uh almost to for example

um who actually owns

Final in this country who actually owns

the economy I don't think they do

affirmative action for things like that

I think like old dynastic families just

Rule and that the affirmative action is

being done for like

the power but positions of management of

their power what do you think about that

yeah I mean I think there's probably

something to that I think that the

people at the top are probably not you

know Bill Gates isn't going to get

replaced by a diversity hire something

of the sort but in terms of white people

who go to college and get jobs and are

trying to get by I mean yeah

discriminating against white people in

that way so it's not that uh

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so since you've admitted like the ruling

class is not actually changing in any

way right it's just who's managing their

Affairs don't you think that it would be

more

um you would be it would be it makes

more sense to actually Target the system

not just who gets to manage the the

wealth of the ruling class but where

that wealth actually comes from in the

first place and things like that like

you basically say we maintain everything

as is in terms of the fundamental

economy if I I don't know if I'm reading

too much into your position and that

your main issue is like you know to be

hyperbolic the main issue is like the

the black Hitler Netflix documentary

that it's a black woman right yeah

that's not what affirmative action is

yeah yeah but I'm I said I was being

hyperbolic but your basic issues no well

yeah that's that's because you mentioned

College you mentioned college right and

uh all these college students are in

debt these jobs are meaningless they

don't actually contribute to the economy

College itself it's like a huge scam the

jobs that are being offered up for

affirmative action these are not real

jobs these are like pencil Pusher you

know salaried parasite jobs anyway so it

like you'd basically

system you like the FBI what it was

doing when it began the Inception of the

deep State against communism oh that's

fine you just don't like the kind of uh

cosmetic costumes it puts on but you're

fine with like everything else or no

everything else no there are other

things that I would want to change than

um you know than just affirmative action

what about nationalizing the energy

industry do you believe in that

yeah I mean you think it's funny I mean

I'm not a communist so look at this

government you look at this government

this government is like the Civil Rights

bureaucracy yeah do I want this

government to like own more of that

that's not what I'm asking you I'm not

asking you that I'm asking you

should a government that represents the

people in this country nationalize the

energy

probably not that's I just don't think

that's like

I'm not a communist I've never claimed

to be whatever terms you want but until

very recently it was doing very well so

we don't Target I don't think Communism

works I think that we had a lot of the

world that was living under some various

forms of socialism

and they're not anymore right because it

failed it sucked so we did that's

interesting I know what did how did they

do they stopped being you know

Communists when it came to economics

they should be doing free market stuff

so false completely false here's exactly

what happened the Soviet Union Patrick

Casey Patrick Casey well here's the

thing to speak as you do right you can't

actually evaluate the success of

Communism by comparing it with uh

Advanced Western countries that started

out hundreds of years before the Head

Start you actually have to compare them

with where they were before communism

and in every single case of Communism

coming to power in almost any country

you see a drastic rise and acceleration

of the productive forces being developed

and living standards going up and

literacy going up and the rate of

acculturation Nation going up

familiarity with basic uh knowledge of

the classics going up and actually you

have a lot of hostology in former

communist countries in Eastern Europe

because after the fall of Communism uh

you had a tremendous rise in the human

trafficking sex trafficking child

trafficking immense drug addiction

poverty desperation post-communist

states are largely regarded and known

for as being shitholes right and

everyone understands the collapse of

Communism with a small exception of few

countries like czechia and the Central

Europe as being a complete disaster for

its people now in the case of china you

said that they abandoned communism and

that they privatize everything that's

not true stayed on the state-owned

Enterprises control most of the Chinese

economy to this day all of the land is

state owned publicly owned

um China banks are all state-owned banks

they don't have any private uh Reserve

Bank Central Bank so when you're talking

about China's communism being really

dismantled it's not true it's actually

being reinvigorated like never before

the introduction of Market reforms in no

way is incompatible with Communism

unless your definition of communism is

being pulled out I'm not interested in

debating like real communism okay well

real communism has been a success almost

everywhere where it has existed

about South Africa but like the Soviet

Union isn't around anymore so

absolutely

I don't know how you look at the

situation in Russia right now and not

see that yes in some form or another

some equivalent to that will come back

the uh Capital flight that's occurred

the sanctions from Western economies

huge impetus for nationalizations and

increased socialization of the economy

is happening in Russia

it's what the people want in general I

mean

it is um has never actually disappeared

from the face of the Earth it's just

changed its form right coming back and

there is never and even if it wasn't

there was never been a real Challenge

and threat to the ruling class uh except

communism

and thing here's the thing right

you past presidents of completely

different conditions and circumstances

but for you to sit here and bitch and

whine about the managerial practices of

Corporations and act like you're some

kind of revolutionary dissident when

you're not willing to Target the

fundamental means of production the

actual root cause of where this shit

comes from just shows that you're a

fraud you're not you will never actually

did that we're going in circles you can

call for that and you will face less

pushback than than I do not when I vote

but not when I both call for it you look

at the people that get de-platformed

debanked censored the most right not

door that's yeah

just just by calling for it nothing and

he responded to this fucking point like

five times

if we're just retreading you didn't but

you didn't respond to it I said you have

to call for it what is the respiration

communism's never okay yeah I'm waiting

on the SS USSR to come back I'm waiting

for it you have to both call for it and

show that it's a serious there's weight

behind your words and that's when you

become the biggest threat of all and the

biggest target of all and that's what

history showed that's why the FBI and

the entire deep State apparatus was

formed against communism

good to know but you you can't say that

you you can't say the n-word in uh on

social media so that means you're more

persecuted I guess Gene Debs who was uh

one of the first people to run for

president absolutely true people who say

the n-word are far braver than the uh

the most persecuted comedies yeah people

people who get the platforms for saying

the n-word that's good that's being

persecuted more than a guy who was

thrown in jail while running for

president because he opposed World War

one uh yeah totally like

you better watch out man they're gonna

get you you're uh you know you're really

the Maggie communism's gonna appear for

okay well I don't think so if I if we

keep having Patrick Casey's calling me

Brown on Twitter it might stop me I

didn't call you brown on Twitter see

you're just so dishonest about

everything here dude why are you scared

to own up to this shit it's like I'm not

like some liberal politically correct

guy like did I did I say you're Brown on

Twitter I don't think I said that but

it's like it's it's not I mean but I

don't know I don't know that much about

you your community or your people

is that wrong to say it's like

these are a little racist or what am I

crazy for thinking that

uh yeah I don't know what does the term

racist mean

crazy dude so you're not gonna say that

your followers are like race

yeah what a pussy an actual right wing

with balls would be like yeah I'm racist

of course I am whatever I hate brown

people like they say it all the time why

are you such a pussy when it like you

actually

you're gonna get like I don't actually

hate brown people so that's that's my

place

who aren't white no I don't blink twice

blink twice blink twice if you're like

only doing this because you're like

scared of persecution don't worry like

I'm on Rumble I don't know why you

stream this to YouTube that's kind of

crazy but uh place if you're like dude I

don't hate I don't hate it twice he

played twice I got it he did blink twice

there you go I'm not okay

and Hell please I'm trying to hate brown

people here and the Deep State won't let

me what what what I mean I didn't so

you're not deep platform you still have

something to lose or something I don't

know I've been I've been kicked off and

stuff yeah but uh you have something to

lose now so okay that's fine I don't

want to get you in trouble but I was I

was hoping I was gonna debate like one

of the right Wingers who have balls not

like a guy who's like scared to admit

their basic positions but anyways you

call me a white supremacist for them I

don't the idea requisite to just like

indiscriminately hate everyone who isn't

uh isn't white I mean again that's just

kind of like splc understanding of

things at the point that I made before

is that I understand here's why I'm a

little confused you can find Edge words

out there who'll say are all sorts of

extreme stuff yeah go talk to them but I

told them here's why that confuses me

just a little bit right the reason it

confused me just a little bit is just

like I am not a guy who's known for

coming after white people you know like

uh it seems like I mean you've quote

tweeted me multiple times you've kind of

a few times your community it's always

about race with you guys when it comes

to me kind of like is it just race or is

there something more like is is it just

Skin Deep or what when it comes to uh

finding my position so objectionable you

guys hate them so much it's like no it's

your positions it's it's your positions

again there are like non-mite they're

non-right-wing people yeah

what positions like what positions what

positions

that's right we've been debating though

I'm not going to rehash that we've been

going out now besides the South Africa

stuff almost three hours here yeah

you're what positions do I take issue

with how about what we've fucking been

debating for almost three hours dude but

that but but I think we I think I think

South Africa

I don't know listen the South Africa

stuff came after so what positions do

you find so objectionable

what that's what I co-tweeted you with

here no no you but you've been doing it

before I remember you from before what

did I I don't know what what did I you

seem to have a better memory of of the

times that I've co-treated you it's it's

seared in your brain it's not seared in

mind you know more about me than I do

you that's the thing I did research for

the topic I didn't do research for you

your personal background like you know

more about me than I do you and I'm like

I don't know that much about you I know

okay so you haven't been in my mentions

a bunch

someone would be like this is a dumb

take and have no fucking clue who they

are yeah okay so you're kind of just

backing away from that I guess so were

you familiar with Maga communism before

okay so what's your main objection

already been talking about this it's

where we're going on three hours again

holy shit we didn't what's your name

and um is that it's communism and I

don't support communism so

context of here why is that such a

problem

is about

necessarily the case can you explain

is in communism I mean some supported uh

Industries never called for like the

collectivization of entire Industries

it's just like something that doesn't

exist

well the incompatible is what I mean

like why can't it exist in your view

because a lot of what trumpism is about

is is contradictory to that Trump's

always been a fan of Industry he's uh

he's a baby doesn't want his stuff to be

taken by uh you know experience so yeah

it's totally fucking different dude you

know what fan of Industry his name was

Joe Stalin did you know that

industry so uh I don't know what

relevance being a fan of industry has to

it he said he's a billionaire

sure but it is not the same as Maga

Trump's personal interests are not the

same as Maga because Trump's done a lot

of things that go against the Maga

movement like his support of vaccines so

when you talk about Maga which is a

primarily Blue Collar working class

movement what is alien personality

basically that's what Maga is uh the

idea we'll see if it can Outlast him

then why did that

from Trump or trying to like insert

their own like weird stuff hold on you

can't this millennialism into into the

mix uh well you know I saw something

funny I actually did see some funny

screenshots on Twitter of uh you and uh

Jackson maybe some others you're on what

truth social like getter or something

trying to sell maggot communism and you

have like human honors and stuff saying

they wanted to kill you so yeah I don't

dude I don't actually think that uh

that's something that people want so

there are issues with the the pragmatism

but yeah I don't support communism I

don't support Marxism that's great not

what I'm about I didn't have to explain

why I'm not I mean

Patrick I don't want you to rehash your

NPC dialogue loop I want to address your

points you've made points you're not

asking me the same questions and then

you're complaining about the NTC

dialogue you're not able to address the

points now uh what I remember you just

saying was that it's not going to be

successful because uh you can't divorce

Trump fromaga you can't divorce Disney

from Mickey Mouse uh but that Mickey

Mouse is the CEO who controls the whole

thing and Trump is a mascot and Maga has

booed him at rallies for things they

said that they disagree with right so

they're not the same thing just because

they're inexorably entwined doesn't mean

they have an identity okay now the

second problem with what you said is

that oh it's not successful because I

saw a Fed astro turf tweet with 25 000

likes shared by leftists of a few of of

people on Truth social just uh using the

word communism and getting backlash yeah

yeah but here's the problem right uh

true when I go in person to a Maga rally

and talk to actual manga supporters

about this and they overwhelmingly

support it I think that's a lot more

credible than just some like like shit

on Truth social Anonymous uh talking

about the word communism I'm not denying

that communism has a bad rap for most

Americans in general but my view is that

comes from a lack of education and a

lack of familiarity with what it is now

I know it's an unreasonable position

when you actually talk to people and

explain to them what your position is I

think that's a lot more

um I think it's more uh tenable than

just being like Oh man uh don't you

think black people suck a lot and it's

like they might agree but you're not

going to get a political you're not

going to get huh who's saying I'm saying

that well I'm Ling or whatever right or

they're hard right right or whatever is

saying black people suck LOL that's

that's the uh I think a lot of people on

social I mean I don't know

Patrick here's the thing you just

mentioned you just mentioned um

truthful as an example of like a

phenomena and is it fair to me to

mention that like on Twitter all of your

supporters are Nazis

then you've pulled them they're all

Nazis yeah that there you go shooting

warning like there you go shoehorning

like a common sense statement that you

should understand intuitively into like

a statement of proposition I would

absolutely object to the claim the

accusation that all of my followers are

like you're interpreting it within the

lens of propositional logic not common

sense I obviously don't mean literally

all just like how malema doesn't mean

kill individual boars I mean like

vaguely is a phenomena it's like a lot

of them it's like characterizes a really

prominent tendency among your supporters

right that they're like Nazis I can't

help who follows me on Twitter I'm sorry

if they made fun of you for being uh

Lebanese or whatever no but I mean

that's not it that's not what I'm

talking about I'm talking about their

like

like yo Nazis like who likes straight up

Advocate genocide and shit like that

like is that not something that's

representative of uh do you you disavow

that is what you're saying that's crazy

you hate your own followers

poor genocide this is this is extremely

bad faith I just explained all of my

ideas

followers

dude you're throwing your own followers

under the bus that's crazy so yours told

me they're all gonna totally uh hold on

you don't support All This Racist stuff

they're saying about like

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do you disavow your followers calling me

like a a brown

um subhuman or whatever you disavow that

this is a vowel game yeah I'm like Trump

you want you know they try to get him to

disavow David dude

so is it your position or is it not

Brown what no no like that like like I'm

a sub human I should be killed all this

kind of stuff I've already said I don't

believe that brown people are

like bad people because they're brown

again it goes back to what is a good

model for society and I've done a lot of

research on the effects of diversity

this is crazy you're not even gonna like

see like in my community

dude yeah dude in a lot of community

he's like eating you because you're

Brown here you go Haas I don't hate you

because you're Brown I don't hate you at

all but uh you know I don't have my

opinion of you it doesn't have anything

to do with the fact

it's because I have I'm inferior in

intelligence because I'm Brown correct

ah no I don't like it you would say that

that's so crazy

Brown why do you want me to say that to

you it's like because

it's what you're do you like for example

that I'll give you an example all of my

supporters are like this dude is a cuck

and you know I feel like there's truth

to that I'm not gonna like distance like

extreme positions that I don't hold okay

yeah dude but I'm just saying like

you're not even dude you're not even

owning up to your own shit it's so

pathetic there you go that's bad faith

right there that's bad faith right there

okay so you lost on every topic so far

yeah I don't think that happened I don't

think that happened but if you believing

that is enough to like end this this bad

faith uh accusation splc game that

you're playing here well uh listen The

self-designated Undefeated debater can

can claim another picture dude how is

this not a victory

okay what do you think is the fact

proves the point that it's not a victory

like what is the main hitting point

because I think I'll say mine like the

reason I think I won is I think you made

a very poor case for white people in

South Africa being persecuted for Julius

malema calling for their actual

individual death in a literal sense I

think you made a very poor our case

being able to defend that because you

were unable to establish any links

between the song and actual cases of

violence done by people who heard what

malema said you were unable to establish

that farm murders were more than two

percent political or racially motivated

things like that I think you were unable

to speak before the evidence all of

these with data so here's here's the bad

faith like red counting of the internet

so what do you think is the high what

what do you think is like the reason you

want

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uh people I don't think anyone's had

their mind changed I think your

followers still probably support you I

think mine probably still support me so

okay there we go

you're basically saying you weren't even

you didn't even like put any

the different people than I am okay so

you're basically saying

you're basically saying you had no skin

in the game the whole time you weren't

even like putting anything on the line

it'd be very difficult for you to like

um lose in the eyes of your own

followers it would be difficult for me

to lose I was actually talking to them

in a stream I did like a few days ago I

was like oh would it actually take for

you guys to uh stop watching stop

donating and I was joking like what if I

started sobbing I was like I bet

somebody you would still watch look if

you look at these debates I would I

would wager the people who watch me they

see malema stuff and they they think

he's anti-white right and they don't

appreciate your contextualizing and they

just disagree fundamentally okay I feel

like those are people who want to be

victorious do you think that you've won

how many of my people have you converted

probably none I feel like all the Smart

Ones I've converted

okay I would hope that they message me

and tell me that they I I would love to

know I would not be upset so uh they

should go to YouTube you should you

should tell me the names another thing

I'm gonna be doing is that after this

one's over I'm gonna do a Twitter space

and I will do Collins anyone can come in

and uh Farmers my donors are going to be

like yeah what genocide is not happening

in South Africa yeah okay enjoy the

Twitter space yeah I hope it goes well

have fun wait yourself couldn't you

yourself didn't believe the white

genocide was not gonna be like my yeah

hundreds of thousands in super chats uh

let me let me go take care of that uh

with my career Dad here so you've got

hundreds of thousands of dollars

hundreds of thousands millions of

dollars is crazy that's crazy okay but

YouTube takes 70 so that sucks but

anyway um

for that anyway you're you're swimming

in money right now so I don't want to

keep you from your yacht but um

right after that you could not support

the claim there's a white genocide you

said it's we've already been over this

you're not gonna keep reiterating

everything so to be clear I have given

Patrick Casey every opportunity I have

given Patrick Casey every opportunity to

show how in South Africa malema is

actually advocating for uh violence

against white people and actions you

want to know what I said he said that

he's not going to rule out killing all

white people no that's not what he said

at all that's the thing yes it is and if

that is something if that is something

he said it is curious that that is the

only time in which he's ever said that

and that every other time he's been

confronted with this question

uh you didn't even thought again it was

a BBC interview so why don't you go

watch the whole thing and like yeah then

you can then you can figure it out we

can you you were talking about you were

talking about home to be clear you were

talking about hey you were talking about

the thing that Keith would shared and

he's not advocating for the no he is he

was he was offered a chance to take a

pledge in the courtroom not to mass

murder why people and he didn't do it no

he he said yes

Patrick no then what about some double

down why has why why since then does he

continue to say that he does not

advocate for killings or violence

against white people

maybe some Optics cooking I don't know

he said it enough if you're saying that

in a court of law if he's going to say

that in a court of law then why would he

be scared of saying it in uh in public

it's so stupid he's still saying shoot

the bar which obviously refers to you

know he's talking about all white people

come on if you're going to take malama

at his word Patrick

um here's here's where you've gotten

yourself into a pretzel yeah

if you are committed Patrick I'm not

gonna I'm just not going to re-explain

these things okay one last thing just

one word

One Last new point if you are committed

to taking what Julius malema says at his

word in court and you believe this to be

an example of taking him at his at his

word then I have to ask you the question

why are you not also taking him at his

word probably in that same courtroom I

think he said and I'm not exactly sure

where he said shoot the boar as I've

stated many times is not to be taken

literally why is one case he's telling

the truth and the other case he's lying

pretty clearly if you just look at the

big picture everything he said he

clearly hates white people he wants to

take white people's land and respond to

the point he's bringing the entire land

appropriation thing in racial terms he's

saying all white people are criminals

he's getting all sorts of nasty stuff

about white people

racial terms because apartheid was a

racial system you ever thought of that

of course he's doing that of course he's

doing that he's faced like hate crime

charges which in Black comic South

Africa has got to be pretty hard to to

do

um and you know that's just I'm sure

that he's cucked out on a few occasions

but yeah overall he is anti-wide the

policies he proposes are anti-white the

things

they're actually good for white people

white people would benefit under malema

there is actually a lot of poor white

communities now and uh under malema with

the industrialization and revitalization

of South Africa China style they would

be sure to benefit from that and uh I

mean they're not benefiting under the

current system of Monopoly Capital

that's for sure and if you want to say

it it's because of the black commie

government you have yet to explain why

that government has done nothing to

undermine the power of Annapolis Capital

that controls South Africa

pretty good good stuff yeah I think

we're I think we're done

dude I feel like I feel like you're

right

if you're in a six foot grave and I'm

fucking tossing dirt on you right now

with the shovel you're fucking dead dude

dude you got fucking body dude you got

fucking destroyed holy shit I've given

you so many opportunities to actually

make the case for your fucking argument

what a fucking failure dude you just got

a life you just got fucking white dude I

just bitch slapped you into the fucking

Next Century Dude tell me how it is are

we in space

holy fuck you got destroyed well you're

contesting all of these statements that

I'm making that were based on like what

you thought was it was a BBC interview

you had no idea what it was but that's

not relevant to the actual whether it

was it

Patrick whether it was a whether it was

a BBC interview or a court case

is it into the substance though the

substance is what was he actually saying

about his statements and his statements

are absolutely things that we would do

we were debating the idea that his

statements convey like nothing to what

he thinks about white people here's why

it's better for my point that it's a

court case because he was being asked by

that by a cross-examiner from the

opposite side that was that was uh

Prosecuting him right he was arguing

with the uh the party that was taking

him to court a cross-examiner so that

cross-examiner has even more of an

incentive than a BBC journalist to make

to trick him into saying something he

doesn't mean so that's actually why

you're like you're stepping on a rake

and hitting yourself by constantly

emphasizing it wasn't a BBC interview

yeah all the better to the point that it

was a trick question

I mean again I've already he's already

made these statements in in

I don't think he's made all these

anti-white statements like in a court of

law is actually a defense of him and uh

of his character so I actually think

that in the court of law he said

everyone knows that song is not to be

taken literally which is why no debts

result from it

yeah in the court of law he refused to

take a pledge not to he took the pledge

like several times he took the pledge

again it's it's yeah so it's okay to be

clear Patrick you missed wrapping the

debate up we're debating things that we

debated before so so I'll uh allow us to

settle on this to be clear he he

actually said was that Beyond his own

control yes there could be violence

against white people if the situation

does not stabilize but that he would

never call for it and several times

several times he said yes I will make

the pledge and never call for it only

after he was asked what he perceived to

be a different question of can you

guarantee that nothing will happen to

white people did he say no I can't

guarantee that how could I I can't tell

the future so that's what he said but

it's been misconstrued all of a sudden

you're an expert on this court case you

you did you watch the the uh the hour

and a half I I am familiar with both the

court

because I had something else in mind

watching this whole thing

I think Keith would shared like a few

days ago so even if this was the first

time I saw it which it wasn't when he

shared it I definitely I'm familiar with

it in preparation for this debate okay

I'm excited the court one of the court

cases of afroforum versus malema and the

eff and I actually like linked an actual

source so yeah I'm familiar with the

court case dude again you thought it was

a BBC interview I don't know I don't

know what else to tell you because I

thought you were referring to something

else dude Patrick the thing is it

doesn't matter because you're the one

sitting here who didn't even know that

only two percent of farmers

dude statistics just like your Aryan DNA

two percent

just like your Aryan DNA two percent

yeah it's two percent dude just like

your Varian DNA I think two percent over

and over all right we've already we've

already discussed Patrick

lost you lost

what I think is that the BBC you're

worrying about is the wrong BBC ask your

girlfriend about the BBC she should

worry about okay because you're worrying

about the wrong one so here's the thing

Patrick your takeaway from this whole

thing was wrong you completely got

destroyed total African Victory the West

has fallen complete Aryan defeat

is over

I don't think that happened yeah

dude give me a side profile give me this

give me the it's so over things with you

after after very important questions

I win I win Patrick believe whatever you

want but okay in good spirits and good

spirits in good spirits just show you

have a good sense of humor can you

please turn to the side so we can get a

it's so over meme please come on

uh yeah you got you got some good meme

game there you have real sense of humor

come on Patrick come on I'm not gonna do

that are you are you really just you

have a such a stick up your ass what the

hell

on temper tantrums you have no sense of

humor dude come on

come on give us the chin give us the

chin just for the memes come on why

don't you give us the chin you got

you're not even showing it

so I'm gonna go shave right now yeah go

shit no

no all right well have a good night okay

well grow beard that's my advice for you

grow a beard

I don't need to yeah well why don't you

just show us the side profile if you

have one

look at my videos

okay by the way the picture I chose for

you

uh did your chin change since then or

what

did it to change since then it probably

not it might have something to do with

the angle so yeah oh it's the just like

maybe the darkening effects to try to

make yourself look wider than me maybe

that had something to do with it so

maybe I am whiter than you who knows

because you guys claim don't you guys

claim that like you would like to be if

you would like this but you guys claim

that like all the Egyptian pharaohs were

white or some shit

so like who knows some people people say

out there you guys are like you guys are

like yeah the Phoenicians were white

everyone was white it's like damn maybe

I am white it's kind of like a selective

thing

no yeah I know I think we'd be able to

tell I don't think you are I think I

think after you dug up my bones like a

thousand years and like some like white

nationalist wanted to claim me to go

yeah that guy was white that guy was

white he's just not white when I don't

like him well there you have it Haz

wants to be remembered as a uh White

racial revolutionary for the uh exactly

dude my whole aesthetic my whole

aesthetic it's just like I want to be

white so bad look at this dude look at

my hat look at everything dude this is

all white white aspiration to be white I

mean you lightened your face on the

thumbnail so I don't know wait wait hold

on hold on okay I have to just ask you

something right just real right do you

really think that I whiten my face

you think

that dude this is my skin color right

now okay you can't understand that you

have Envy dude why are you trying to

like brown me dude I'm literally a white

guy come on

dude

yeah what's the problem dude dude dude

Patrick you're literally darker than me

literally darker then come on

yeah everyone can see you're the dark

one here everyone can see it literally

everyone

okay I think the debate's done all right

oh cause you okay well I guess you lost

the debate on like who's the real white

guy

very funny stuff oh this is for you that

you're darker than me right now dude

Patrick does this bother you that you're

darker than me right now

look at me look at me

I am the white look at me I am be right

I get it uh yeah

you just look like someone who'd be uh

you know yelling at me in a convenience

store or something so oh

yeah Patrick Patrick's a white

convenience store a white one

dude I don't speak Brown I don't speak

Brown I'm the white guy now well I'm

gonna I'm gonna leave if we're just

getting your comedian yeah dude you're

scared you're so fucking scared dude to

be showing what you are racially I'm the

white man now I am the white leader of

the white race now

oh follow me

yeah dude I'm a board I'm a board please

help me Julian's dilemma's coming for me

please

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