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What the hell is going on?

What's up y'all?

What's up y'all?

What's up y'all?

Don't mind me looking a little fancy.

It's a little occasion, know i just i just decided

i'm gonna go live you know i mean don't mind me looking a little fresh don't mind me look a little

you know uh dripped out don't mind me looking a little fancy don't mind me looking like i'm crabbing it up

because i took all y'all subscriptions

all that crabbing it up and I got my I'm just kidding this is an old suit this is

anyway uh what's up y'all Anyway

What's up, y'all?

We got a lot to talk about today, okay?

We got a lot to talk about.

But here we are.

We're back.

We're back.

It's a Sunday.

We're back on our Sunday grind a Sunday we're back on our Sunday

grind set

we're back on our

weekly grind set

no disruptions

yeah last week

was the total

disruption

we had

I think Sunday

we didn't do it

and a lot of shit

guys I have an

announcement

that's so fucking exciting.

I'm scared to tell you about it.

Because I guarantee you, if I tell you about what this is, if I tell you about something

upcoming we've been dreaming of or I've been dreaming of, If I tell you about it, it's going to

jinx it. It's not going to happen.

So I can't tell you about it.

But all I can tell you is there's good

times ahead. And a lot of people,

a lot of people,

they're going to be super salty about it. They're going to be super salty about it.

They're going to be super fucking salty.

They're going to be devastated.

Their whole world's going to be shattered.

Okay?

It's not the...

I don't know what you're talking about aifornia thing can can you calm down all right

there's there's orders of magnitude more exciting than that okay so we have that uh by the way guys

today's stream is going to have a common theme that I'm going to be pretty

consistent on.

You know, it's going to be a pretty consistent, pretty consistent.

Let me get these shades on because the brightness is out of control, okay?

The theme is going to be pretty consistent.

Stig, what's going on?

We're going to talk about, first of all, we have a lot of things to cover.

I mean, first and foremost, there's a lot of things we have a lot of things to cover i mean first and foremost there's a lot of things

we have to cover there's a lot of things there's a lot of crazy shit going on okay so trump

is sending troops to portland Oregon to fight Chaz.

He's fighting Antifa.

There's this new...

You know, I got to show it to you because this is actually

fucking crazy news. Nobody's covering

this, by the way. It's going to be used against

everyone. There is a new

federal... Let me show it to you. against everyone. There is a new federal

let me show it to you.

It's some fucking crazy shit.

You know,

and honestly,

Hassan Piker was the one

who I saw it from

on his timeline.

I don't follow him,

but I saw it.

Glenn Clippersstein, okay?

There's a new directive for the national...

It's more than just an executive order.

Targets anti-capitalism, you know, opinions as indicators of extremist violence.

And it's authorizing an army of over 4,000 counterterrorism officers to prevent crimes that haven't happened.

Now, you know, they're going to go after anyone who remotely might...

It's not anyone who could remotely fit the bill.

It's more like anyone who they could spin to the public as guilty.

Anyone they could lie to the public and say,

this person is Antifa, you know, in the sense of like the Portland anarchists or whatever.

And anyone who vague, I mean, for example, we're communists.

One of the reasons the, what do you call these disgusting degenerate?

These obese piece of shit frogs, we step on them and they croak.

Anyway, these people,

they are very cynically

banking on the boomers and the

general public. They're not going to fucking know

the subtleties of all these

differences that exist within the American

left. So the idea is, oh, you're a

communist. You're an extremist. You're the same as a

Portland. It's going to be one big broad brush, but it's not even going to be just the left.

If you're on the right, it's going to be used against you as well. Top goy. Top goy.

The top goys of the right are hurting all the rest of the right wingers

into the arms of the zionist regime and this is what always happens with the far right by the way

because look what happened with hitler in the by the way, because look what happened with Hitler

in the night of the long knives. Look what happened when what Hitler did to the S.A.

And what Hitler did to his underlings, the extremists that got him to power, he purged him.

He got rid of him. And the same thing is going to be used against all the other

factions of the right but you know this stream is not just about keeping tabs on the right

the right is just Zionism that's just the truth there's there's two factions of the right there's the

ben shapiro zionist israel right that's all it is and then you have these anarchists instead of the

a symbol they have a swastika. It's the same

thing. Slow-mo,

what's up? Because the whole purpose

is edginess. The whole purpose is to be

a provocation. It's just anarchism.

That's all it is.

So those are the two factions of the right, I

suppose.

And, you know,

Oh, shiver me timbers.

We're so scared.

Except we have nothing to hide.

Except we have nothing to hide.

Except that's not how it works.

I am trying to appear interested. I am trying to appear interested.

I'm trying to appear excited.

I'm trying to appear like I give a fuck about stupid shit that I don't care about, right?

I fucking don't care.

Like, I could care less.

You're going to jail.

You're it to jail. You're it.

I don't know how better I could express my indifference to just, I just so fundamentally indifferent to that. Like you have a lisp. You're probably fat, and if you're not fat,

you're a disgusting meth head slash pothead.

You're a disgusting degenerate subhuman and nothing you say. I don't hear the words of a human being. You're not human to me. Frankly, you're not human to me. You jibber and you talk and i just i could not be more indifferent it's

like the sound of a fart it's less exciting than the sound of a fart um it means nothing but you know what is interesting this is a consistent theme i want to have

for the stream is that for the the christian national the catholic nation you know what i

notice on the right not just recently but for the past like three years,

these right-wing pieces of shit.

You know, there's some exceptions.

There's some individuals, I would say, are exceptions.

But the broad, like, movement,

they basically have this thing where they say,

oh,

Christian ethics don't apply to commies.

When it comes to commies,

commies, by the way, we're going to use

the 80s to commies,

like my grandpa says,

they're not human

so we can lie about them we can slander

them anything is permitted against

commies because commies ain't human

okay I want to be

crystal fucking clear about something

okay

communists are not

care bears.

I'm a communist

because I'm not a fucking bitch

like you. Let's get the, let's just like

clear the table and be fucking clear

about what these words mean and what they signify.

I'm a communist because I walk with a powerful chest forward,

and anyone who gets in my fucking way is up for a big

fucking problem. I'm a communist

because I don't have to submit

to your bitch system.

Your bitch made

fake world of illusions and lies. I'm a communist because your fucking money

means fucking nothing to me. Nothing. You cannot bribe me. I don't care about the status you have because of your money.

It means nothing.

I don't give a fuck about your BMW.

I don't give a fuck about your Lambo.

I don't give a fuck about your yacht, your Ferrari.

None of it, your Rolex, none of

it means a fucking thing

to me. That's the

freedom and dignity I have

as a communist. You

are food, if you

get in my fucking way, and I don't

fucking care how much money

you have.

So this is what it means

to be a communist.

The dignity and freedom of a

communist is that they don't have to buy

into this system. They don't have to believe any of it. they don't have to buy into this system.

They don't have to believe any of it.

They don't have to buy into any of the bullshit that they're trying to feed us.

You don't have to care about the TV.

You don't fucking have to care about what everyone else is talking about.

Because what everyone else is talking about is a bunch of stupid time wasting bullshit.

A communist to somebody who lives life, and this may sound ironic if you're a fucking moron without ideological illusions.

You walk by, you see a billboard, you see an advertisement, you see a commercial, you don't relate even one percent of your soul with it.

Not even one percent of your soul.

You have an absolute dignity and freedom that no one can take away from you.

So for those that try to say, oh, commies aren't human.

You want to test and see if communists are care bears?

You come up to me and tell me I'm not human. You try to treat me as anything but a human being.

And you're in for a crude fucking await. I will slap this shit out of you, bitch. Shut the fuck up talking about communes aren't human. I will slap you into the ground, you little bitch.

Shut the fuck up.

Who the fuck

do you think you're talking about?

They think

we're like hippies or some shit.

Fucking trembling, bitch.

They're nervous and they tremble in real life.

Commies aren't human.

We can treat commies however we want.

Try it.

Try it. Try it.

I see you as an aunt. You're a piss ant. Your life is that of a slave. You actually believe in the bullshit. You buy into the bullshit.

You might call some of it Jewish, but at the end of the day, you're a fucking pathetic pissant retard.

Slow mo with the five.

You can be bribed.

The difference between you and me is that you can be bribed. I cannot be bribed. Money can shape everything about who you are. And to me, I don't see dollars. I see bullets. That's the difference between a communist and a sheep, weak, pathetic maggot, anti-communist pissant, who thinks that human morals and ethics and whatever doesn't apply to us because communists are

universally maligned in America. I'll tell you what, I pay taxes. I live as a free man i have dignity like any other communist anyone any

it's not we're not simply selfless care bears we have a selfless devotion to our cause absolutely

but we're not just that we're also people who have our own interests who have our own business who have her own dignity who have our own manhood

and anyone who tries to disrespect communists anyone who tries to disrespect communists, anyone who tries to infringe upon the rights, the God-given rights that every other fucking American has, is in for a rude fucking awakening.

A communist

is not a carebear

who lives to wash

the feet of every single fucking

stranger.

To be a communist is a unique

type of freedom that you have.

It's a unique type of freedom that you have. It's a unique type of freedom to live without illusions.

To be reduced to the actual collective reality that regardless of whether you're aware it or not actually defines you

and that reduction is a form of responsibility you are not a man if you are an anti-communist i see see how these piss ants are tugged along by trends, by the society that we live in. They are. They're piss ants and their sheep. But they don't take responsibility for their collective existence. They still pretend to be free individuals.

I'm a free-thinking individuals.

I just repeat whatever the fuck I see on TikTok, but trust me, I'm a free...

No, you're not.

You're a piss ant.

You're a fucking sheep.

A communist clings to their collective existence like a Red Army soldier clings to their, what do they call it, Pepe Shaw, clings to their fucking rifle.

You own that shit.

There's nobody else guaranteeing it for you.

You fight for it or you're nothing.

That's what it means to be a communist.

To be a communist is to be part of a horde right that moves as you move a horde that's got to take down everything in front of it, pummel everything in its way, or else you are nothing, and it is nothing.

To be clear. To be clear.

To be clear.

Communists are not care bears full of love and whatever compassion for everyone.

Metaphorically, metaphorically speaking,

Communists will fucking curb-stomp your bitch ass.

Metaphorically speaking.

You know, you want to know communism, this is communism, bitch.

Okay?

This is communism anyway

we don't infringe on anyone's rights

and we respect everyone's rights

and we respect others

but we demand respect in return.

The same respect you would give a stranger, we demand it.

So anybody who calls themselves a Christian and anybody who calls themselves a moral, whatever,

how you treat us is going to determine your fate we're not going to let people get away with calling

themselves a catholic christian movement who claimed that tyler robinson was in acp we're not

going to we will never gonna, we will never

let you, we will never let

you live that down for the rest of your

fucking existence. You will never be

freed from that lie. Until you

publicly atone for it.

And you're not going to confess in church you're going to confess to me i'm your new pope bitch you confess to me your fucking lie i'll exact that confession however i have to fucking do it but i will

it will be

exacted

it will be exacted

let's be clear about that

you failed your pope you failed your pope you failed your catholic pope you disrespected your catholic pope right so i have to be your new pope you disrespected your catholic priest

you didn't follow his words now i have to You disrespected your Catholic priest.

You didn't follow his words.

Now I have to be that.

I'm your church now.

You failed to be a moral person.

You failed to be an honest person. You failed to be an honest person.

So I'm going to make you honest.

By the way, do you think I'm a crazy fuck?

Good.

If you think that, it's because you're a bitch.

And you're a pussy.

And you live life as a bitch.

And you live life.

You breathe and you live and you eat and you shit as a worm.

And that's what you are. and by the way all the motion in this country is coming from the left wing let's be clear about that as well all the motion in this country is coming from the left wing. Let's be clear about that as well. All the motion in this country is left coded. It's all left code. Even anti-Semitism, the so-called upsurge of anti-Semitism that you see on, you know, the one you see on TikTok where it's like less bots than X,

even that is left-coded.

All the motion and movement in this country has always been left-coded.

You know?

Even Maga was just a bizarre, strange phenomena that didn't fit the mold of a stupid pussy Republican

movement. That too, you could argue, was left-coded in many ways. All the motion, all the

movement. Everything that is consequential and that matters for the history of this country is left coded.

All the motion comes from there. The truth doesn't apply to commies.

And the commies aren't human. We don't have to tell the truth when it's a commies. And the comys aren't human.

We don't have to tell the truth when it's a commie.

All right.

So you choose to be shoved in the locker.

That's your choice.

It's beyond my hands. It's beyond my hands.

So you choose the swirly. You're going to get it. You're going to fucking get it. Okay.

The coming, darn human. I just bitch slap you in the face and you fall on the ground crying and your glasses

get cracked on the floor and you're crying and sobbing

on the fucking sidewalk. You're a pussy.

Shut the fuck up.

Honestly, where'd you learn to speak like that?

It's such a disgusting larp. Like, you learn to speak like that? It's such a disgusting larp.

Like, you come to me with that energy.

I will slap the shit out of you.

Because I will be put in a self-defense situation.

You're saying I'm not human, God forbid.

You're reaching for your gun.

I got to bitch slap you into the ground to prevent you from

in any case, you get the idea.

I'm a respectful, honorable

person. Honestly, I live and die by

honor. I live and die by honor.

My record. My record is fucking crystal clear. Guys, look at this retard in my chat. His name is Noxter. Noxter gifted a sub to me

You paid tribute to me bitch

Shut the fuck up

Second of all look how he goes

You're wearing a suit

You're wearing a suit

You want to be Nick

Yeah just like how I'm wearing glasses because uh because your gay memes hurt my feelings right

two things that I did for years or whatever are glasses I started two months ago guys

ask Knox or when I first started wearing suits on stream, you stupid bitch.

It's like you go on my fucking YouTube.

Let's debate, pussy.

Get in my fucking VC, you bitch.

Get in my VC right now.

Is this this the brown Albanian who's a cuckold?

Is this the cuckold?

Is this the cuckold of the, uh, the superior white race according to his own fucking cuck, cuck existence?

Get in my VC, you bitch.

You want to get slapped again? You want to get slapped and

beaten into the ground again, you little bitch? Get in my fucking VC. You want to be humiliated

in front of you the whole fucking world again? Be my guest. Where is he now this is the albania i think this is the albanian is it this is the albanian is it

this is the albanian sir we are white i promise we are white we are indo-european sir we are white. I promise we are white. We are Indo-European. Sir, we are white. Sure, we are white. I promise Albanian. Thank you, USA. We are so white. We are Aryan race.

You can fuck my wife.

Go ahead, Noxter.

Sir, please, Nick Fultes.

We are white.

We are white.

Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.

I suck Bolshevik up.

Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.

Shut the fuck up.

Shut up.

Why are you cammed up, you little bitch?

Nobody can fucking see you.

You're trying to look like Kabib? You're trying to look like Kabib.

You're trying to look like Kabib.

Do it like the old-fashioned days, huh?

Look like Kabib without the mantis, you fucking pussy.

Yeah, I look like a bee.

Your fucking team levels are so fucking low.

I will single leg you.

I will single leg you.

You understand what I do too high. You won't do shit, you fucking stupid pussy.

You're fucking brown.

Stop larping as a white man, you fucking brown bitch.

Hyes, you remember when people used to bully you when you were 14 for being Muslim?

And then you're like, fuck, I gotta be a communist now.

Holy fuck.

What are you talking about?

Look at this fan fiction.

Yeah,

when is your fan fiction?

Fanfiction. Fan fiction.

Van fiction.

Bitch and bitch.

You're lying.

You're lying, bro.

Look,

I have the clip of you saying that, and I'm going to own you.

Okay, get the clip then.

Go ahead.

Let's get it.

Remember when you were fucking bullied for being Albanian, so you got cucked and became a fucking white nationalist?

Shut the fuck up.

Remember when you lost a debate with me?

Live?

No, I don't remember that. I must

have forgotten about it alongside

the fucking DNA test that show you're

a white man. You're not a white man. Shut the

fuck up. You're a cuck.

Guys, let's be honest.

Me and you walk into a KKK

rally. They're going to fucking put you honest, me and you walk into a KKK rally they're gonna fucking

put you on the fucking grass.

They're gonna put you on it, bitch.

You think you fucking fit in with them?

You fucking idiot.

You fucking retard.

We were literally part of the SS. I literally look at this guy. We were like an ARA. I literally put the SS.

I literally looked at this guy.

It looks like...

Okay.

Okay.

Sir!

We...

Sir, we did...

The Nazi party gave us...

Sir, the Nazi party gave us a brown division of the SS.

We had a brown faction of the Wehrmach.

Sir, the German army had a brown division.

We are white, sir.

Please, sir, we are so white.

Oh my God.

My name is, my name is.

How does it feel be a cuck?

How does it feel be a cuck?

How does it feel be a cuck?

How does it be just be a 5-3 faggot? How does it feel be a cuck? How does it feel be a cuck? How does it be a 5-3 faggit?

How does it feel?

How does it feel to be a cuck?

How does it feel to be a 5-3 faggit?

How does it feel to ape off a fucking Destiny's fucking memes?

Are you a fucking destiny fan? You Gino-ridden

Low-T bitch. You fucking

Redditor. Is that all you can do?

You can fucking, uh,

you're going to be a fucking Reddit.

Destiny memes, you know, bitch.

All these come from Reddit.

Get the fuck out of your. No, you come from Reddit, you bitch.

All your fucking memes and attacks on me come from Reddit because you're a fucking low-tie gino pussy.

Hazz.

I actually recommend that you go transgender.

Go transgender from female to male.

You need the fucking testosterone.

Fucking boos.

Dude,

you never wore a suit in your life in the early streams.

The early Twitch days.

Oh,

I found it!

I found it!

I found it!

I found the video!

Okay,

let's see.

What's so peculiar about this is on the one hand,

it's neither Christianity nor Judaism,

basically, right? And as I continue to study

Islam while re-evaluating

this new fond understanding of Marx,

what if Marx was just converting

to Islam, basically, right?

Because this is the Islamic view. The Islamic view

is one of dialectical material

is more or less. By the way, that would make

you... Hold on, why don't... Finish

the clip. What are we missing here?

Replace matter with the word

essence, because they mean the same thing.

The essence, or what they call divinity, God,

or let's say the human being cannot only focus on heaven or earth.

The human being is some kind of dialectical unity of both from the Islamic perspective, right?

And the essence, this is what I want to get to.

The essence of humanity is the divine creation

right it comes from uh

skips to the part where you

where you prove what you're trying to say

right here

here Islam I was internet leftist

so I could feel like I was atheists

and dwell in the desert of American

nihilism to be a Marxism. I've dwelled there. You want to know how I know this? Chat? The same

fucking thing happened to me when I was 14 because my values as a Muslim. I was bullied

into a non-hastar. Hold on. Finish the whip. I was bullied I was bullied I was bullied

finish the clip

I was bullied

I was bullied

I was bullied

I was bullied

I was bullied

I was bullied retard

what you're talking It has nothing to do

you said

I was bullied I was bullied by my god

retard so I can fucking explain.

Hey, retard.

You made it seem like I was bullied

in high school or some shit.

Well, you're talking about is the fucking internet.

Like, where you get shamed for being religious. That's not bullied for being a Muslim. You're... If you say you were bullied for being a fucking Muslim, you're implying it's like Christians bullying you for not conforming to their religion rather than a fucking leftist subculture where being religions wasn't considered

cool completely different fucking things retard what a fucking retard am i muted am i muted

you're unmuted now you mute what a homo to get his point out. What a dumb ass.

Look, anyways, I'm going to ask you a question.

Within the Islamic perspective, right, does it make you a kufar, right?

A kaffer to be a fucking call me.

Why would I fucking care about something?

You wouldn't care?

You wouldn't care not being

strong in your religion? You're not religious, are you?

Right?

I don't, I don't

LARP as religious like people like you do,

and I'll tell you exactly why.

Because you people call yourself religious.

I'm lucky.

Absolutely.

You're disgusting satanic pagan movement

is the most loud about being religious

that being the most fucking hypocritical

degenerate. Get the fuck

out of here. Yeah.

What's the most satanic? No, communism has

killed multiple groups of

people and what you're saying

you're saying that what Christianity is, how is it

Satanic? What?

You are not a Christian and neither is your

cat boy degenerate movement. Your fucking

movement is anything but Christian. Your fucking movement is

calling itself Christian

and formally by the word

proclaims to be Christian.

But in actual fact is satanic,

is fucking pagan,

is degenerate to the utmost.

Do they follow Christ? Do they follow Jesus?

No, they don they follow Jesus Christ?

No, they don't follow Jesus.

They just say they do.

They don't actually fucking do it.

People that follow Jesus don't knowingly make up lies about others while they know that they're lying.

Hold on.

Hold on.

What did Jesus say about lying?

What did Jesus say about lying?

Hear me out. Hear me out. Hear me out. Hear me out.

Hear me out.

Hear me out. Hear me out.

So I'm gonna, I'm, because you're like, you have your communist values, but then you

bring, hold on, hold on.

You have your communist values, but then you bring out your little Islamic side.

Listen, listen.

If you accept your Jesus Christ as your-

Okay, I don't care if you talk about Jesus.

I don't care if you talk about Islam.

If you can't pass the first fucking test,

which is do your words conform to honest intentions? Are you a fucking liar?

Do you tell the truth? If you can't do the bare fucking minimum and be honest, I don't want to fucking hear a thing about religion.

I don't want to hear about religion. I don't want you to talk about religion.

If you can't fucking do the basics, if you can't follow the laws of fucking Adam, the first fucking human, be fucking honest.

Don't lie.

If you can't do that, nothing that comes out of your fucking mouth has any substance.

It doesn't fucking matter. You're a liar.

You call yourself Christian.

You claim to follow Jesus. It means

nothing. You're a liar.

Go ahead.

Follow.

You can call yourself Muslim Christian.

It doesn't matter if you tell lies and you're a lie.

Who do you follow?

Why are you running from the question?

Why are you running the question?

Who do you follow?

The truth.

And what's the truth?

Communism.

Who created communism? God did since the beginning of time.

Okay, no, no, no, no. Who pushed communism?

Every prophet of God that's ever existed.

Get the fuck out of here.

So you're saying, you're saying Muhammad was a communist?

Yes. You're saying Muhammad was a communist yes

you're saying Jesus Christ

was absolutely absolutely

do you know

without ambiguity

do you know Muhammad would look at you

and shake his head and grab a stone and bash it on your head for

why would i why would i why would your words matter to me you're a fucking liar you're a fucking

nothing you're a liar because you're a fucking kaffir you're a fucking kaffir you say that

you say that karmu communism. You say communism.

I'm talking, bitch.

It's my time, bitch.

No, it's not your time, little short, bitch.

No, it's not your time, old boy.

Listen to me, dumb ass.

Keep being a keyboard.

Keep being a keyboard warrior talking shit over the internet.

We can yell. We can internet. We can yell.

We can yell. Listen. Who created

communism? Who created communism? Was it the

Bolsheviks?

No, it was God.

God created communism.

Since the first man existed,

there was communism. Why are you so scared? Why are you there was communism why are you

so scared why are you so scared why are you so scared

because I'm telling you the truth

you can say you're not

telling me the truth absolutely I am

you know it you know it's the Jews you're running

you're running

was Tyler Robinson and the

you're running from it was Tyler Robinson

and the ACP you're running. You're running. Was Tyler Robinson in the ACP?

You're running from it.

Was Tyler Robinson in the ACP?

He was in your movement?

He was?

Yeah.

Okay, Satan is going to torture you and rip your fucking balls off in hell and put it in your mouth.

You're a fucking liar.

You and Jackson are going to get bent over and blacked in prison.

Okay.

And you're asshole going to burn in hell.

You're scared. You're scared and you're running. You're a kaffer.

Right? You're a kaffer. A lot. I mean, I'm a lot. I love to have with me.

The labels. The labels. What does a fucking label

mean if it doesn't prove anything? Like, you can't even be honest. You can't even be an honest man. And you're fucking referring to labels like I give a fuck about names and labels.

I'm going to have this way with you. Jesus is getting, anybody do you believe in that you think can happen? Were you just about to imply that Jesus is a do you believe in

Are you just about to imply that Jesus

Is a rapist?

Is that what you were going to say?

No, dumb ass.

You said have his way with you.

What does that fucking mean?

That's so weird.

That's so weird.

You're going to hell.

Buddy, you can't even do the bare minimum of keep up.

Are you that perverted? Are you that perverted?

What did you just say before then? You talked about prison. You talked about bent over.

You're a sick fuck and it comes from your group community.

You're burning

so bad. Okay.

Is that what you think? I'm going to take you to

C level bitch. I'm going to help you out. Okay.

So you know what? You know what? So ones

ones, ones, ones

Shuns up what I'm

drowning. Let's see.

Let's see who's drowning.

One's in the chat if Hodge is a little short homo.

Two is if the opposite is true and that all of that applies to this guy instead.

Hoss, bro.

I really can't wait to see you a person.

I would have my way with you.

Okay.

Yeah, that's, that, that, guys, he speaks for himself.

I didn't say anything.

Just let him talk and everything comes out as far as what kind of fucking person this person is.

Oh, bro, what happened?

What happened?

You know, you know, it's literally been, it's been like five years since I've seen your existence.

You had a debate with like, what's his name?

Who's the fucking guy that smoked-

Are you white?

Are you white?

Let me finish talking-

Are you white? Are me finish Are you white?

Are you a white man?

Yes.

No, you're not.

You're a cuck.

You're not a white man.

Is that what you think?

Do you wake up?

Do you wake up and you wake up and call yourself a white man?

You abandoned.

You're abandoned your religion.

Hey, hey, hey, cuckled.

Cuckled.

Cuckled.

Cuckled.

Do you wake up in the morning and call yourself a white man?

Well, do you wake up in the morning and suck Hassan Piker's dick for your communist movement?

Why do you have so many homosexual fantasies?

Could it be related to the repeated patterns and tendencies?

What's the thing with the skin color?

Like, why are you dodging it?

Like, I'm telling you I'm white.

Because you're a cuckold, because you're not white

and you're not accepted as a white man, but

yet you, you tag along

like a fucking, you tag along

like some kind of, uh, Hindufta.

Sir, we are white.

We are white, sir.

Please.

Please accept me, sir.

You're a cuck. Keep yelling.

Look, were the Albanians a part of the SS?

That doesn't matter. They accepted anyone. That doesn't fucking matter.

They didn't mean anything.

Did Adolf Hitler

say the Albanians were

the closest things to be Lerians?

He said you were next in the gas

chambers, okay? So shut the

fuck up. It's the most stupid. You are

such a coping retard.

This is such a coping retard this is such a

quintessentially

brown thing to say

you worship the Bolsheviks

so you're in the gas chamber

bitch and I've turning that bitch all the way up oh

yeah you

you don't even know what you're talking

about.

You say that

Albanians are

considered white

because they let you

die for the German

army.

They let you go

and kill yourselves

for Hitler,

your fucking cock.

Are you that stupid?

Enverroja put a bullet

in every single one of these

cockroaches, okay?

And God bless him for that.

Enver Hoja rounded up every single

one of these people you worship.

If it wasn't forever,

a hoagher, your movement will look dead.

If it wasn't for Everhoge, rounded up

every single one of these

traitors of shit.

And he massacred them.

When they were a part of SS,

yeah,

Enver Hoja took them and massacred them.

He threw grenades in them.

He fucking blew them up.

They're dead.

They're dead. They're gone.

So shut up about this.

He died to poison.

He got bitched.

For as long as he lived, he ruled.

You're a cuck.

You cuck to a race

that you consider superior

Hoja cucked to no one

that's why you are

not Albania

You're a slave

You're nothing but a cuck

You're a cuck

You're a couple.

You know, you know why you use us Albanians, us, you know, Everho, my DNA, right?

Because we're the only good thing to happen to your fucking movement.

Because your movement was fucking completely nothing.

It was nothing if it wasn't forever.

I'll hold you on the Albanian movement.

Because you guys kill each other within.

Your stupid little gay arguments.

Russians can be cool with Chechnans.

No, they can't.

No, they can't. No, they can't.

You think multiple

groups and different cultures and

different races can be under

communism. No, I don't think they can be. I think they

are. They are. They just are.

They will kill each other.

Then why the fuck did fucking Chechnans and Dagestanians and fucking Russians all fight?

Can I ask you a question?

How come Russians and Ukrainians go to war?

Even though there's a lot.

Let me ask you a question.

How different are brothers from each other genetically?

Not at all.

Okay.

Do brothers fight?

Do brothers fight?

Oh, you're going to use this little gay argument?

Do brothers fight?

Do brothers have two different cultures? Okay. You're dodging the question. Do brothers have two different cultures?

Okay. You're dodging the question. Do brothers fight?

You're asking me a gay question. Do brothers, do brothers, do brothers have different cultures?

You know what? I know you flunked out of school and you never actually had the discipline to be taught anything in your fucking life.

But I'm going to go ahead and do something for free to you. I'm going to teach you something.

Human conflict under any pretext whatsoever is probably inevitable.

It's in the same way it's inevitable that brothers will fight.

People will find all sorts of stupid reasons to fight each other.

So yeah, sometimes Chechens and Russians, they might fight.

But that doesn't change the overall fact, the general tendency that Chechens live harmoniously

within the Russian Federation and that the overall tendency is that they lived harmoniously

within the Soviet Union alongside dozens and dozens of other ethnic groups.

Are there exceptions? Are there conflicts that are inevitable between people? Of course, there's conflict between brothers is inevitable.

But does that mean those conflicts

fundamentally mean people can't be connected and integrated?

Well, brothers are integrated into a family.

Of course they can.

The question is how you manage conflict,

not whether conflict will exist. How do you manage tensions and conflicts conflict will exist how do you manage tensions

and conflicts russia knows how to do it china knows how to do it the west doesn't and you consider

them the superior race that's curious i'll let you uh go ahead yeah mute me pussyuting me. Like a little cuck

Bro. You're a wild animal who can't control

themselves. Because you can't control yourself. You're a wild

animal. You're the one screaming on top of your lungs and you can't have a

simple conversation. Now answer my question, what was the reason

of Chechnnians and the Russians

and Dagestanians fighting?

You want the actual reason?

Fucking funding by the CIA

and by the fucking Gulf states.

After the end of the USSR.

That was the actual

Who were the same people?

And by the way, you have the conflict wrong.

It wasn't simply Russians versus

Chechens or Dagestanis.

It was Russians versus the rebellious families

from those

countries. There was a civil war

between loyalist forces

to Russia and the rebellious forces

and the loyalists want.

And to this day, there is harmony,

peace, and stability. So what are

you getting at? Why are you using this as an example, you fucking idiot?

What I'm using this as an example is communism simply doesn't work when there's multiple different cultures.

It does and it has worked.

It works in China.

Based on history.

It worked in the USSR.

Are Chinese?

Are Chinese? Chinese?

How many ethnic groups are in China? Do you know?

How many are there? You tell me? Are they Chinese? Do they speak the same language?

Because that Cheshney can speak a same language? You think that China only has one language and one ethnic group? Is that what you think?

There's two, right?

There are dozens of different ethno-linguistic groups

in China

why did you got

not work

Yugoslavia didn't

work because

they adopted a market

form of socialism

and had to fucking get loans

from the IMF on their last leg.

When they started going bankrupt,

the CIA went in and propped up nationalism

so that people would be at each other's notes

and fucking blame each other

over their fucking problems.

Are you stupid bitch?

Are you stupid bitch? Are you stupid bitch?

So people became nationalists during

communism?

No.

People were always nationalists as a consequence

of the betrayal of communism.

No,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no yeah they did no yeah

what did albanian

when did albanians become nationalists

Hoja why did Hoja

hate Tito the leader of

Yugoslavia do you know what even fucking know why that was

because the leader of Yugoslavia. Do you know what? Even fucking know why that was?

Because he was what, Croatian?

He didn't like Croatians?

What?

Did he didn't like Croatians?

You're fucking idiot.

What a humiliatingly stupid thing to say in public?

You're a fucking war. You're a retard public. You're a fucking you're a retard. You're actually a retard. It's so hopeless.

Thank you. And you're a short little bitch. So why did he hate them? Are you going to go

out of it? Or you're going to just called name?

He hated him because Tito betrayed communism.

Because he betrayed Stalin.

That's why, retarded.

So what?

You're saying Milosevic was a better leader?

What?

Who the fuck mentioned Milosevic?

Because after,

after Tito died who came in who mentioned him who said it who said that the guy that came after is better than tito tito himself betrayed Stalin that was the beginning of the end

but who gives a fuck about Stalin,

bro? Like, fucking... Okay, Hoja did.

And Hoja's the fucking one that funded

the KLA in the beginning.

Bro, Hoja had to go to

France to be taught by Jews.

Communism.

Based on what?

What's your evidence?

Go work who's teachers' words?

Go look at his fucking evidence.

Go look at the proof.

You're the history major book guy.

Yeah, you're just making shit up.

It was Hoja a Jew, by the way?

Sure. Okay, he was Jewish.

Listen, I'll say this.

Why does Christianity end when it comes

to how you treat communists?

Why do you stop listening to Jesus when it comes to how you treat communists. Why do you stop listening to Jesus when it comes to how you treat

communists? Why is it okay to lie about

communists? Why is it okay to be a disgusting, deceptive,

scheming little fucking bitch?

You're the one that saying Jesus is

you're saying Jesus is communist.

I am saying you have nothing to do with Jesus because if you follow Jesus, you follow Jesus unconditionally.

I have nothing to do with Jesus, so Jesus isn't with me.

What does Jesus say about lying?

Does Jesus approve of you being a liar?

I'm glad you know one Bible verse faggot.

What does Muhammad say about

against his movement?

What does he say?

What was his movement? Can you explain?

Can you explain what Islam was founded for?

Can you explain that? Okay, do this for me.

You know, you abandoned it.

You abandoned it.

Okay. You abandoned it.

So you know what Islam is, right?

How many, how many scholars? How many scholars? You abandon it. So you know what Islam is, right?

How many scholars?

How many scholars were after Muhammad that were preaching Islam?

How many were there?

It's very simple.

Stop dodging my question.

What is Islam?

What was it? What was Muhammad's last message to mankind on earth? What was it?

No, no, no. You tell me how many scholars were there?

No, no, that wasn't thousands, guys. Come on. It wasn't thousands guys come on it wasn't thousands

go on go ahead this is what it looks like for this is what it looks like when a little

rat hides behind labels and superficial nonsense there what? I'll tell you the answer.

I will,

answer the question.

What is Islam?

There was four.

It was four scholars.

There were only four scholars after,

there was only four scholars of Islam

and his true.

How does the Hadith work? How does a Hadith work?

How does a Hadith work?

I can't believe there are only four scholars of Islam in all history.

There is only four. Wow. Someone write this down.

How many Hadiths were there?

Okay. I'm going to mute you and then answer so that you don't interrupt.

Okay.

I want to be clear about something.

Just FYI to the entire world.

Religion means absolutely nothing to me beyond what it actually is, beyond what it looks like and what it does. Beyond how it

actually exists. I don't care about labels. I don't care about religious identity, even 1%, not even 1%.

I care about what it looks like. I care about what it looks like i care about what it does i care about

the effect it has i care about its fruits just like the bible said know them by their fruits if you

are a degenerate and a liar and a hypocrite i don't care how much you virtue signal religion

i don't care how many labels you use i don't care how much you uh find loopholes to be in

conformity with legalisms i don't care about how much religious words or phrases you use. I don't care about any of that. It means not religion is nothing to me outside of what it materially is in the world. What it actually is. What is islam what actually is that a label means nothing to me

an identity means nothing to me it's empty it's it's it's completely meaningless it's a fart

an identity to me is a fart Plato's idea

the idos to me is a fart

it is nothing

I care about content

behind every form content I care about content.

Behind every form, content.

So the form is the word Islam.

What's the content?

I care about that.

I don't give a fuck, not even 1% of a fuck about any religious identity. And if that makes me an atheist,

then I am an atheist. And I don't give a fuck. Because I live in this world. I'm human, and I fight for what's right.

Just like you breathe, just like you eat, just like you defend, you try to defend what little dignity you have, and I would say it's none.

Just like you go to work to feed yourself.

Just like you try to have a family and you defend your loved ones and you live and exist in this world.

Religion to me is 100% meaningless

outside

of what content

it can actually dispense to

mankind here on earth.

Farts in the sky, ideas in the sky, don't mean anything to me.

Not even 1% of anything to me.

I reject philosophical idealist paganism.

And in the Bible, they would burn pagans,

and they would fucking burn their idols,

and they would be absolutely ruthless.

You look at, know them by their fruits,

there is nobody who is in more conformity with all of the religious traditions of humanity

than modern day communists.

No one. There's absolutely, it doesn't even come close.

The entire story of the Bible, the entire story of all the struggles of all the religious prophets,

the whole thing that has given it content and meaning is shared with the communist struggle of modern history.

And that is a fact.

Are you done, bitch?

Are you done, bitch? Are you done, bitch?

Go ahead, bitch.

You're a little calf or I, shu.

Okay, who were the Pharisees? Can you tell me that?

Who were the Pharisees? Who were the Pharisees? Can you tell me that? Who were the Pharisees?

Are you done?

Who were the Pharisees? And what did they disagree with Jesus about?

After all that, right? After all that, what's a Hadith?

You're a caffar. You're a caffar. What do these labels mean to me? Nothing. It sounds like a fart.

Can you just fart in the mic instead? It's the same thing. Like, you think this offends me or bothers

me that you're just misusing labels that mean nothing? The last sermon of the prophet Muhammad peace be upon him to all

mankind was about abolishing usury and taking care of the weak among mankind

that's what it was about.

The first

sermon

delivered by

Jesus

Christ

was about

restoring the

Jubilee year,

wiping out

all debt.

That was what the whole drama was about the reason the prophet of Islam got into trouble wasn't because he was debating pagans about

metaphysics and they had a different philosophy about what's in the sky.

That is not why people were killing each other and shedding blood.

It's because the prophet of Islam was fighting for the forgiveness of debts and the entire emphasis on mercy god as a merciful being within

is that mercy was the word they used for forgiveness and all the creditors in mecca and medina and the in surrounding areas and all the creditors in Mecca and Medina

and the surrounding areas and all these corrupted Arabian tribes

had a good thing going.

They had a good thing going, making money off of enslaving people with debt.

And the Prophet of Islam came, and he announced a new law to free people from the bondage and wages of usury.

And that put a target on his back.

That is what put a target on his back. That is what put a target on his back. And the whole fight, the whole fight was about that. And Jesus, it's the same thing. The Christians were a threat to the Roman status quo for no other reason than the fact that they were a movement

for the abolition of debt.

Forgiveness of debt.

The Roman creditor class persecuted them and hunted them in a way no different than how the U.S. government persecuted and hunted communists.

It was a life and death struggle like any other revolutionary struggle in history

and zero percent of it

zero percent of it was about metaphysical gibber

zero percent of it was about formalism

zero percent of it was about a debate about pie in the sky.

It was all about here on earth.

What the fuck is going on here?

That's why people kill each other and shed blood and give

their own lives for a cause

because they're fighting for

something that means something

here for people

that are living and breathing

here

and then the pedophile philosophers come after the fact and make it about pie in the sky.

And it never was about that.

Simple.

It's very simple.

You fuck with the money of those in power. They're going to come after you with everything they got it. It doesn't matter how honest and virtuous and just you are. And the whole struggle of mankind in world history is that fighting against the powerful who are powerful because they appear powerful

teaching the masses who are in fact the real powerful ones that they are the true power, who are brainwashed to think that people who have symbols have power,

the people who have money are those who have power.

But money is a symbol.

The ones who have the real power are the ones

who have the numbers who are the ones that are organized the ones who have a plan the ones who have

the weapons it's a very simple, uncomplicated struggle throughout the history of humanity.

0% of blood of mankind has been shed in history over pie in the sky.

0%. over pie in the sky 0%

I'll unmute you

you're muted by the way

you fucking idiot

I'm talking to my

I'm talking to my

talking to your fucking loser audience

that Yeah yeah and what is your audience Yeah and what is your audience Yeah my talking to your fucking loser audience that

yeah yeah

and what is your audience

Jackson Hickle

Gooner

like what's up with that

with your faggit

followers

you guys are like

Jackson Hickles

the true white man

get the fuck

but look

I'm gonna ask you

so

who is more white Jackson or Nick

are you gonna answer my question listen

so

you're gonna listen just hear me out don't interrupt right

because I know you love the one that's pissing me off

because if it wasn't personal

look so you believe communism is what pissing me off because if it wasn't personal, look.

So you believe communism

is what Muhammad would have wanted.

Why not just do Sharia?

What is Sharia?

Sharia is a way

more, you know,

non-Kufur

way of

Sharia, right?

That's what does that look like?

There's different ways of it, right?

Okay,

there's different ways.

Now you're already I'm not the, I'm not the, I'm not, right? Okay, there's different ones. Now you're already

proceeding on everything.

I'm not asking you to answer.

Stop running like a little bitch.

You're fucking running.

You're running.

You're running.

You're running.

You know, what you're drowning, honestly,

because you have to go and talk for 10 minutes

to your audience

to dodge the question.

Because I'm educating you because you're a wild animal

that can't keep a line of argumentation

consistent. I'm not listening to you, bitch.

Communism isn't Sharia.

You can't say something that was created by a Jewish man,

Jewish men, the Bolsheviks, right?

Right.

Based on what?

It's something, they're Jewish.

That something...

Where's your truth? Based on what? Okay, you're Jewish that something based on what

you're Jewish okay okay

since you're saying the Bolsheviks

were all Jewish I'm going to say something

I'm saying you're Jewish so why should I listen to you

if you're Jewish? Your mic's

fucked bro what I'm Jewish why would I listen

to you by your own logic You're Jewish. Why would I listen to you? By your own logic.

You're Jewish.

I mean, I wish I was a fucking...

No, you're Jewish.

No, it's a fact because I said so.

If I was Jewish,

I'd be able to fund

Haas and Jackson

to post about dumb shit.

Get it out. Get out the joke. Oh, you failed? Yeah, because you're a fucking slow thinker. You fucking idiot.

By the way, you're Jewish. So what is there to be said? You're Jewish.

I'm Jewish. I'm the chosen people. Yeah. No way. No way.

You're Jewish.

What's wrong?

Haas.

Can I ask you a real personal question?

Man to man.

Yeah.

Are you Jewish?

Yeah, you are.

Okay.

I already asked you.

Can I ask you a question?

Why does one eye, why does one eye look

the other way and then the other eye looks the other way?

What the fuck is up with that?

Because I'm looking at the distance between

an Albanian and a white man.

And it's very far.

Yeah.

Or you used to watching your own

cock and then Jackson

in the corner getting fucked by the black guy

for Black Lives Matter. Which one is it?

That's an extremely

creative homosexual fantasy there. It's an extremely creative homosexual fantasy

there. It's almost like you'd have to be gay to think of

something like that.

I don't know, man.

I don't know.

I think I know that. I know where your

mind is and what you think

on a consistent basis. My pussy's dry. My pussy's dry looking at you. That's all I can say.

You took the words right out of my mouth. You speak for yourself. It's like, I don't even need to make the case.

It's like this is we're in court right now,

and it's to prove if you're gay or not, and you're just

like doing it for me. Yeah, I'm

definitely gay for a fucking five three

man named Haas. Alibadi

Badi Badodi Dabidoo, definitely.

Once again, I've been silent.

He's been speaking.

I haven't said anything.

He just speaks for himself.

Yeah.

I speak for myself.

I do.

Yo, Haz. Okay, you're going to answer my

questions now. Are you done being

are you done being a little

gay little homo who's not going to answer

my question? I really want to. I want to get

Are you part of the white race? Are you

like a representative?

Yeah, billions or what?

No, they're not.

Okay, stop living in delusion.

You fucking cuckold.

I guess not.

Can you please sing the song?

Thank you, USA.

Can you sing that song?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I got you. You ready?

You ready?

Yeah.

Thank you, U.S.

Hey, Ha, Ziz. man Accent says Black Lives Matter

We didn't we didn't hear it can you sing it again

We didn't hear it can you sing again?

Oh

bitch

So by the way I wish I think I want to find a way to show you on my stream so everyone can see how white you are.

I want everyone to see what a white man you are.

Let's see.

Pop out.

All right.

So guys, I present to you the whitest man.

This guy is for sure white, by the way.

Hold on.

I don't know, Haas.

X, your X.

I'm black below the waist.

Okay, guys, by the way, this is a white man, supposedly, right?

Ready?

Black, below the waist house just for your girl

even if you have one i don't know i'm not talking about jackson why is your

screen blurring you have albanian internet right now

no it has to be you, man.

I don't know.

I'm good on my side.

Can you take your glasses off?

Why are you so shy?

Show everyone how white you are.

Both eyes.

Look at the white man, guys.

This is the white man.

Europe.

Europa.

This was the SS division of the Hitler's army.

Yes.

Look at this white guy.

Hey, improve your video quality.

Can you get rid of the Albanian internet connection?

You know, my side is good.

So let's say somebody, so let's say you were in a crowd of Mexicans.

What would make you different since you're white?

What would make me different is simply me being a white man.

Okay.

What if you were in a crowd of Arabs?

What would make you different?

I don't know.

I don't got a towel on my fucking head.

Oh, so you're definitely like you fit in with the white people, right?

You're not like those brown people.

You're the white one.

Who do you fit in with?

I never claimed I'm white.

When did I claim my white?

What are you, Haas?

What are you?

I'm every race combined.

Yeah?

So on, everyone can see you more clear.

Are you white?

Are you part of the white race, the Aryan race?

Is this it?

That's white as he gets, yes.

So this is the Aryan race, like, in your view.

I just want everyone to see, because on X, these people are very loud,

and I want everyone to see what they look like.

No, I was streaming when I was debating you.

No, no, it's fine.

And I posted the whole video, yeah.

I'm very confident in my looks.

Like, I got so confident in my looks about, like, you know, a year ago from throat fucking your ex-go every day.

And your shoe was saying, oh, my God god your cock is literally the size of haz

and i was like wow thank you no way and when when so when were you given refugee status from

syria why are you a little i buy albino refugee status from Syria.

Why are you a little albino?

When did they let you in?

Were you fleeing Al-Assad's regime?

Why are you in Al-Inal? Did you, where'd you come from, Idlib or Aleppo?

I come from a nice

place called

Albania Kosov.

Basically with guys like us, we would

their head off for being

commies. So you were with ISIS

in Syria? Is that what you're saying? So you were with ISIS in Syria?

Is that what you're saying?

If I was with ISIS, you'd be done.

You'd be done.

How would I be done?

You'd be done.

How tough are you?

Because so far, all you've done is scream like a monkey on the internet so what's next

we're waiting for hos i'm promise you right now you're losing a fucking fight to me i promise you

i i'm sure you're promising from the fucking safety of your keyboard in your fucking mom's room right now.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm gonna, sir, I'm not gonna make out, sir'm going to I knock them out, sir.

I knock them out.

I knock them out.

I have multiple fighting clips in what.

You think I won't fight you,

Haas?

I think you have

Gyno.

I think you'll fall on the floor

and fucking crack your head.

That's fine.

If I could have gyno, I can have a belly. I can be as big as Santa I think you'll fall on the floor and fucking crack your head. That's fine.

If I could have Gano, I can have a belly.

I can be as big as Santa, but I have enough fighting experience of training. That would fucking...

Can you show us your fighting moves?

Show us your fighting moves, white man.

Show us.

Only if you get up.

Show us your fighting moves

right now

or you're lying

show us

get up from your chair

and show us

the fighting moves

look at my clips

show us

no no

show us

your fighting moves

right now

so we can see

is this your

moves

you're rocking on? You're rocking

on your

gamer chair?

Your sweaty

gamer chair?

This is your

fighting experience?

A faggit

little suit,

bro,

you have no tie.

I want to

dress up like

Nickyler.

I want to dress

a,

a mom, a mom.

Look at this white guy say this.

Yeah.

Look at this white guy say this.

Go ahead.

Fascinating.

This is the white race in their natural habitat.

This is the most fascinating thing. This is a white man. This is the white race in their natural habitat. This is the most fascinating thing.

This is a white man.

This is what they've become.

Fascinating.

How about we shadow fight for content?

Get up and, yeah, get up and do it.

Get up and start fighting

show just the fucking sure sure shadow fight me get up and shadow fight me right now you get up

you get up get up abu noxter that's actually a go ahead go ahead go ahead do it i'm watching your

stream faggot fix fix it. Go ahead.

Get up and show us your fighting

move so we can all know what a tough guy you are.

We all want to see what a tough

guy you are.

You have nothing because you can't

fight. You're a pussy,

bro. Come on.

I'm a pussy

because I'm not going to

shadow fight you

over fucking discord.

This guy's such a tough guy.

Guys,

this guy knows the street code.

Get off.

This guy's got...

He's wearing a fucking bathing suit.

He's wearing a bathing suit doing this shit.

He's about to go in the fucking kitty pool.

Watch out.

Hide your kids.

This guy looks like he hangs out in the shallow end.

Oh, you can't...

Do that again. Do that again. do that again.

Do that again.

We want to see that again.

Go ahead.

Fight again.

No, no, no.

Do that thing you were doing.

You're punching in the air.

It's really tough.

Hold on, hold on.

Let me show them.

DJ Callow, let's go.

This is when you're orthodox.

Okay.

Yeah.

Okay.

Basically, this is your jab.

You move your head off the center line, right?

And you bring everything back to your face.

Keep doing this.

Your right hand, faggates, because you know nothing, your right hand, you move your head off the second line, and you throw it.

This is a white, white excellence, by the way, white excellence.

No, keep going, keep going.

White excellence.

This is the white, this is the best the white race has to offer keep going keep showing us your moves hiz you can't fight what have you told you

chat all the fight no we want we want to learn from you because you're such a tough guy,

right? Show us how you fight.

Listen,

Haas. I'll teach you, I'll teach you, because you're short.

Can you do a punch and save for the white race?

Save for the area race.

I'll do it for you. I'll do it for you.

All right. Let's see.

Hold on. Let me, let me just

do this real quick.

I'm little

Haas. I'm little

Haas. who was 14

and I got bullied for being a Muslim

this is how I fight

this is how I fight

I fight like this in cave

at school every day because

I like communism but they booed me for

being Catholic oh yeah go out shit out this hide it hide it because I like communism, but they booed me for being caffered.

Oh, yeah.

He bullied me in school.

When,

who,

hide it.

Because it reminds you of what you are, fucking pussy.

No,

you just brought back a lot of bad memories.

Who bullied me in school?

Can you tell me?

You got bullied,

you were the one that said it for the clip.

I didn't talk about school.

I said about leftist subcultures where being religious was uncool.

That's completely different.

No, no, you said,

My communist friends just to bully me when I was 14.

I wasn't talking about high school, buddy.

I wasn't talking about something real.

He's talking about a fucking ideological subculture,

retard.

Anyway, you look

very ready to bring Sharia law to the West.

Can you explain how you've been assimilating?

I'm Catholic, bro. I'm fine.

Oh, you're Catholic. You're one of the good ones, right? You're not the brown ones.

And you're really white, right? You're like a vanguard of the white race.

Christian can be on my side. White, brown,

Haas, whatever the fuck Haas is.

So you're a Christian?

You're a Christian.

Do you follow Jesus?

Yeah, what are you going to say?

You know, let's say the last question and then run?

Like what?

So what about Jesus' message resonates with you?

Can you tell us?

Oh, that goes for the catholic church yeah explain why does that resonate with you because it's not a form of communism you're being paid

with propaganda that's a little it's not a form of communism really no that's why so why aren't you something else why

you know what that's like saying that's like saying oh you know sex is pure but does that make sex

gay sex impure? Because sex is supposed

to be pure between two people? Notice how

unprompted you're talking about homosexuality

again? I think we're getting

onto something here. You're running. You're running. You're running.

I think no one's running from anything.

I didn't say anything and you just unprompted started talking about homosexuality again.

Let me just explain it, bitch.

Yeah, explain it.

Explain why you keep talking about this.

I don't know how.

Are you a Goyper, by the way?

Am I a Goyper?

Yeah.

Yeah, I could tell.

Yeah.

So this is what they look like.

You're an example of them?

I'm going to get my cat ears.

I'm glad you're embracing it, finally.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm glad you're embracing it finally.

Yeah.

So why do you follow that movement?

Because, bro, let's be honest.

If you are any sort of ethnic group like what are you ethnically right

I don't know you tell me

you're the expert

what are you're a mongoloy right

yeah I'm mongol

yeah you might not be able to relate because

you're like

everything in the fucking

i'm less white than you are

for sure

you're definitely very white you're you're accepted by the white man you know you're definitely very white

you're accepted by the white man

you know

you're Lebanese

you're Lebanese

no way he's Lebanese

he's talking to me about gay shit

I'm actually not you are unprompted continue Lebanese. He's talking to me about gay shit.

I'm actually not. You are unprompted continuing to talk about

homosexual topics and subjects

without anyone prompting

you to.

What I'm saying

is this, right?

Yeah, what are you saying? Go ahead.

Whatever you're saying, it's like saying what the actual statement is and then just twisting it up.

And you're using it for your power.

I asked you one question. Why are you a Catholic?

Because.

Yeah, why?

The keys were handed to Peter.

Okay.

So why is that compelling to you?

Why do you believe?

Because I believe in the text.

What do you mean?

What about the text is compelling to you?

Why do you believe it?

A bunch of things.

We want me to give one thing.

Okay.

Jesus dying on the cross.

Okay.

What about that is so moving to you?

Because a man is willing to die for our sins.

So what?

What's wrong with sins according to you?

Well, you know, if you're a sinner right

let's say you're like Jackson

constantly lying

okay is lying a sin

are you saying lying is a sin

yeah but Jesus died

for our sins

so does that mean you're allowed to sin as much as you want?

Because you die.

Jesus Christ is your Lord and Savior,

house?

So wait, are you saying you like...

Are you saying that you're a Christian

because you think it gives you the right to sin all you want?

Okay, is rape a sin?

I'm asking you, do you...

Is price is rape?

Okay, I have to mute you because you're a fucking retard.

I'm going to ask you this really simply, okay?

Are you a Christian because you think that Jesus dying on the cross means you can sin as much as you want, guilt-free? Is that it? Explain.

Am I unmuted faggot?

Yeah, you are. You're unmuted.

Yeah, I don't try to sin. I stand by my beliefs and I go off.

Is lying a sin?

Is lying a sin?

Is lying a sin?

Is lying a sin?

Is lying a sin?

Is lying a sin?

Is rape?

Is it?

Yeah, of course it is.

But is lying a sin.

Okay, then.

What are you trying to say?

Is lying a sin?

Yeah, no shit.

Okay, okay.

So let's say somebody went and said Tyler Robinson was in the ACP.

Is that a lie?

Or is that the truth?

I'm in this Discord just as much as Tyler Robinson was in this.

Okay. And is that a lie or is that the truth?

That's the truth. Why did you clean the old Discord out?

Okay. So you're saying it's the truth. Why did you clean the old Discord out? Okay.

So you're saying it's the truth, correct?

Oh, yeah.

Based on what?

Bro, there's been numerous proof.

Yeah.

Give me one example of it.

Give me one example.

A couple screenshots.

Why?

Why did you wipe it?

Why did you wipe the Discord, Haas?

So you're saying there's no other explanation for why I could.

Why did you wipe the Discord?

Instead of asking me a question, give me the proof that Tyler Robinson was in...

Okay.

So I have to explain. I'm once again your teacher, okay?

I once again have to act as your teacher.

You're claiming it is the truth that Tyler Robinson was in the ACP.

You're claiming this is the truth, right?

And I say, based on what?

And you go, why did you wipe your Discord?

Now, first of all, if you're implying that me resetting the general chat 48 hours after Kirk died is proof that Tyler Robinson was in the ACP, just say that's what you think and that's your proof. Is that what you mean to say? Go ahead.

Are you done? Yeah, go ahead. Is that, do you mean to imply that Go ahead. Are you done?

Yeah, go ahead.

Is that, do you mean to imply that me resetting general chat?

Is proof he was in ACP?

He had chat logs in here.

Why?

What chat logs?

Show me an example of the chat logs.

No, no, no.

You just, hey, buddy, you just said something.

You just said lying's a sin.

Then you just said he had chat logs.

What chat logs?

Show us one of these chat logs.

Show us proof there's a chat log of Tyler Robinson in my Discord.

Go ahead.

You just said that very casually.

Was that a lie or was it the truth?

Yeah.

I'm not...

No, no, no.

Stop dancing around it, you fucking pussy.

You abject bitch.

Shut the fuck up, homo.

You abject pussy.

I'm not going to go under your...

And go find screenshots.

Where are these screenshots?

Do these screenshots exist?

Do these screenshots exist? Do these screenshots exist?

Go on Twitter and do your research.

You and your homo community are trying to fucking hide it.

Where is the proof Tyler Robinson?

Is he not in your discourse saying bello chow, bello chow?

Okay, where's the proof Tyler Robinson was in my discourse?

What's the-in-your-discore saying bellow-chow, below-chow?

Tyler, where is the proof Tyler Robinson was ever in my discord?

So can you answer my question?

No, I'm asked, you made the claim of you back it up.

You're not going to add any points.

You're going to ask you.

You know what?

Look, you're clearly too scared to admit the truth.

So I'm going to mute you for a second.

If you're a neutral viewer, if you're a Groyper or a sympathizer with them,

if you consider yourself a Catholic, if you consider yourself a religious person, can you watch this person squirm and struggle to account for the fact that they are blatantly lying about something? They're running cover for a supposedly Christian community knowingly tell a lie.

This individual is fully well aware that they're lying right now, by the way.

He said Tyler Robinson was in my Discord, their screenshots.

Notice whenever I press him for evidence, he avoids it and he pivots right away because he knows he's lying.

Not only is he lying, he is knowingly lying.

And this is right after he claimed that he thinks lying is a sin.

How can I take religious selfproclaimed religious people on the internet seriously

if they lie like this guy does knowingly for what?

For social approval?

He is a liar. He is lying, and he's doing it on purpose. And then he says, do you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior? How meaningful is it to ask someone if they accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior if they knowingly

lie like this guy does?

What is the meaning of religion? What is the

meaning of Jesus if you're allowed

to just lie this way? That's what I want

to know. Go ahead.

Is him not is the discord not being cleared

no no you're not going to ask me a question

you're going to you're going to back up

no you're not you're not going to ask me a question

you're going to back up the claim that you made.

Since you made the claim he was in my Discord, you have to back it up.

If you're going to ask me if he was in my Discord, the answer is absolutely not.

But you said he was.

So prove it.

Go ahead.

This is not even a debate anymore.

He's just running.

Just prove it.

Prove it for us that he was in my Discord.

He's running like a fucking...

You're unmuted.

Can you provide the proof?

Are you going to keep muting me, bitch?

The floor is yours.

Provide the proof. Do I answer your questions?

No, you don't. You're running from them.

Did I not answer?

Give me proof. Did I not answer the question?

You said there's screenshots of him and there's chat logs.

Where are they?

But you fucking seen them.

Why did you clear the Discord?

Where are they?

Where are they?

Guys, you fucking homo.

You understood.

I fucking liked you growing up as a fucking kid.

I used to watch your content.

I would be like, this guy's fucking funny.

Good debate or whatever.

So I don't want to cave to social pressure.

I don't want you to go to jail if it's a lie.

Now, is it a lie?

No.

What is your proof behind it?

Why?

What's the reasoning of clearing the discord? The burden of, okay, I'm going to teach you something about the burden of proof.

So I'll give you a thought experiment.

Okay.

You rape animals and you are a goat rapist.

Now go ahead.

Answer for yourself.

Why are you a goat rapist?

Go ahead.

Yeah.

Keep deflecting.

Where's the proof?

Where's the proof that you don't rape goats?

Can you give me proof you don't rape goats?

Keep deflecting.

Give me proof you don't rape goats.

Go ahead.

Give me proof of that.

Give me proof you don't rape goats in the mountains of Albania. I me proof of that. Give me proof you don't rape goats in the mountains

of Albania. I want proof of that.

The goat

that I'm raping

Okay, so you're just admitting it then. Perfect.

I got lucky, I guess.

The goat that I'm raping is your sister.

Okay, so, like we said, this guy is a Christian follower of Jesus.

This is the person preaching Jesus in the gospel on the Internet.

This is what they look like.

This is who they are.

Perfect.

Perfect.

You're a great example.

Yeah.

So, can you please provide proof for the claim that you made or admit you're a liar?

What did you say? I didn't hear you.

Why do you follow Jesus when you were a sinner who lies on purpose?

Can you answer that question, honestly?

You know you're lying right now.

So why claim to be Christian?

Why are you

dodging and running away from the

question that I'm asking you?

For me to provide proof to a fucking

claim you made? How can I provide proof

of a negative, you idiot? Why did you clear the

Discord?

Okay, you want me to just answer why I cleared the Discord and then we can move on to asking you clear the discord. Okay.

You want me to just answer why I cleared the discord and then we can move on to asking you why you're a liar?

Yes.

Okay.

Two days after, there was content being posted in the discord depicting the shooting.

There were embeds to tweets. There were

raids by Groyper's in that time period

who were saying slurs and putting all sorts of

TOS shit. And there was

Why? Because they

raided and they came

because they got upset that

we were calling out Fed Fuentes for being a fucking compromised

shill of Israel. So they raided our discord. They tried to do a bunch of fucking TOS

bullshit. And also, there were too many depictions of the assassination, which goes against

terms of service. So so Friday I had to

clear general and tell everyone that the whole topic is banned so on your opinion

eyes you're saying that there was no proof none what's no it's not an opinion it's a fact until proven otherwise where's the proof

Tyler Robinson was in my discord it's not a fact it's in the air it is absolutely a fact it wasn't a

order all right you know what we can actually determine whether it's a fact

in a way that shows our commitments.

I'm willing to commit

every dime

to my name

and I will quit the internet forever

if you can prove

Tyler Robinson was in the ACP

the claim that you originally made

and you have to give me

$10,000

if you can't provide proof of it.

How about that?

I give you $10,000.

If you fail to provide proof that he was in the ACP,

you give me $10,000.

Yeah, keep coping.

It should be easy, right?

You stated it as fact, so show me the proof of the fact.

No, you know you're not going to fucking...

I'm going to never stream again, man.

I'm never going to stream again, boom.

You need to stream, but what are you going to work at?, man. I'm never going to stream again, boom. You need this dream,

but what are you going to work at?

What type of job can you get?

You're a short man.

Where are you going to work in a fucking grocery store?

You can't fucking even pick up the fucking cereal.

Finish it.

Shut up.

The cereal? That was creative. the fucking cereal finish it shut up the cereal

that was creative

that was so creative

you said the cereal

thank you

you must be very tall

five then

wait wait 5.10.

Wait, wait, wait. Can you repeat that?

I'm 5.10.

I'm taller than this guy.

You want to know what's funny, guys. I guarantee you, if I meet up this guy in person, he's going to be

my height exactly.

No way. There's no way he's even

being honest. He's adding two inches

to his height for sure.

No way. There's no way he's even being

honest about it. The thing about me, how

So this guy is literally my height, and he's doing all this.

I'm very honest.

You're not.

So...

Oh, wait, you're honest.

If only there was a way...

If only there was a way for us to judge whether you're honest or not.

I want you to debunk this.

I'm going to send it.

Hold on.

Okay.

If only there was a way we could determine your honesty level.

I want to debunk this.

Where?

Where do I put this?

Where should I put it?

Put what?

The link to this thread.

I want you to go down and be a high IQ because you want to just...

What thread where?

On Twitter.

Okay.

Show us this thread.

Put it in general chat

if it's a Twitter thread

in general

okay

god

no wonder

you got a clear

here discord

this shit's terrible

there we go.

Explain all that.

Yeah, show me the proof in this thread.

Read it for me.

Can you read it for me?

You go ahead and do it.

Okay, you want me to?

You're introducing your stream.

Go ahead and do it.

Okay, let's do it yeah there you go

okay

Tyler Robinson

the assassin

of Charlie Kirk

allegedly could be

connected to the

American Communist Party

okay shortly after Russian state media out to the American Communist Party. Shortly

after, Russian

state media outlets spread disinformation

online, initially blaming Ukraine

while inciting division and calls

for violence. By the way, the only blame

for Ukraine was proving the fact that

Robinson's father was sympathetic with Ukrainian militias, which is a fact.

Utah governor warned of Russian and Chinese bot activity aimed at fueling unrest and polarizing the public.

Okay?

Since a few days ago, Russia linked public figures have been accusing Israel of being involved in Charlie Kirk's murder.

Candice Owens and Michael Flynn.

Additionally, Kirk was one of the most influential U.S. conservative Zionists and killing him wouldn't make sense.

Claims that, okay, so he's

arguing against the Israel thing. There's no evidence

here. More facts about the ACP.

It's positioned toward Russia and China, and it's

documented ties to the former.

What are the documented ties?

The three posts shown in the image

can be found in the thread attached

now claims are circulating

that Robinson was part of the ACP

or an affiliated Discord server

suspiciously the server was wiped

shortly after

by shortly he

means two full days,

which Hazaldine claims as a routine measure

because it is. However, save

chat logs show messages calling for a server

wipe after it became clear

that Robinson was left wing

and had been active on Discord.

Chat logs show messages

of, let's see the chat logs

in question. Discord about to get nuked again.

Okay? All this shows

was that there was going to be a crackdown on Discord

because Intel Slava, a telegram, post was linked in the general chat saying,

Tyler Robinson was reportedly part of various Antifa Discord servers according to CBS News.

Okay?

Now, at

353 p.m.

which is a full

this was 910

353. So this was two days before

or something. Someone says let's

nuke this chat.

Why? Because graphic depictions of the assassination

were being posted, which

are TOS.

Okay?

Also, subreddits, even though

we didn't celebrate it, subredits that did

make jokes about Charlie Kirk's assassination, like the D-Program, those got fucking nuked from Reddit, okay? So we were absolutely not willing to risk any of that, even though we were guilty of not, we weren't making fun of him or anything, but it's like

it's a sensitive topic.

We don't even want the topic to be

discussed.

But where is the proof showing any

connection between Robinson

and the ACP or the infrared

discord? Because this thread doesn't provide any where so I just I just read that whole thread so you heard me right what what what what what where's this more is the evidence where's the evidence what's enough wolf evidence? Was it not proof in his cord?

What?

Is it not proof he's in the cord?

What is proof he was in my Discord?

That we wiped our chat?

Why are you guys wiping your chat, really?

Okay, can I ask you a question?

When, how many times did we wipe our Discord chat in 2025? Do you know?

I'm not in your faggot discord.

Okay. You made the claim he was in our community and that he was in our party.

Right? Where's the proof? right? Where's the proof?

Where's the proof?

Is there Antifa members

in your court?

Where's the proof Tyler Robinson

was in our discord?

I just said to a bunch of shit.

You didn't send me anything, you fucking idiot.

Give me the actual

fucking evidence, you fucking eyes hard.

You had Jackson in the back rooms

cuddling up. Oh shit.

We got to figure something out, so

let's blame Nick. Why did you blame Nick?

How did Nick do this?

Nick blamed us and then we pointed out the fact that Groyper General Latino Zumer got five years in prison for planning to shoot up a Kirk conference himself.

So why the fuck would you accuse us when it's way more likely

a Groyper did it?

The war between the Latino zoomer?

Why the fuck

are you talking about lore when you just

made the fucking claim

that Robinson was in my fucking party

in Discord with zero evidence.

You fucking idiot.

You want to talk about the fucking subtleties of Latino Zumer?

When you're fucking making a claim that Robinson was connected to us based on nothing?

You fucking idiot.

Latino Zuma

was literally a fucking griper.

You have nothing connecting

us, to Robinson.

And you want to fucking get into the subtleties

of war, you fucking idiot,

eight-brain-brein-braith.

Because if you're going to use Latino Zumer if you're going to

use Latino zoomer you're going to

I'm going to use Latino zoomer because

there is zero equivalent in our

community of anything like that

you fucking idiot

you just said he was

in my party you fucking retard you said he was in my party you fucking

retard you said he was in my discord you fucking idiot

with zero proof with nothing

you know it's a lie and you say it anyway

you are subhuman

you are not a human being

who's a cooper that did it?

Do you think an infrared or an ACP person did it?

Based on what evidence?

What?

Did Nick go to his telegram and delete his telegram and delete a bunch of shit?

You guys did.

You guys were acting mad suspicious.

Guys, is this person human?

Is this like a human being?

Is this human?

What is this?

How can this be a human being?

This guy's actually the most retarded fuck I've ever seen in my life.

He is genuinely a fucking retard.

You look in the mirror, bitch?

He is genuinely a sad retard. You look in the mirror, bitch. He is genuinely a sad, pathetic sub-humor retard.

I have never seen a more, like, low- IQ retard.

This guy's about to cry.

You are genuinely a fucking moron.

You know that?

How the fuck can you sit in here in front of this

fucking camera?

And claim that me

wiping my general chat

two days after Kirk was

assassinated is proof Robinson

was in my Discord or ACP.

The fact that you don't see there's absolutely

no connection. How is

that even remotely evidence

connecting Robinson to me?

You want to know what I think, huh?

Go ahead.

Can you admit you're a liar?

What I think is you and Jackson and Haas, or you, Jackson, and Hassan, and the rest of the A.

Go ahead.

Repeat what Nick said because you're going to jail.

There you go.

Okay.

And why are we going to jail?

Even if you're not going to jail,

let's say Sharia gets taken back into place and, you know, the Catholics lose.

Or let's say the Catholics

win and we take over

beheadings are going to be brought back

and you communists are all going to be lined

up and we're going to have a few things. I think you know about that

because your ancestors were Turks. You have a

Turkish phenotype. So your ancestors were Turks you have a Turkish phenotype

so your ancestors were Turks that went to

Albania and that's where you come from

Yeah

Now you look like a fucking... I did a DNA

Did you do a DNA first?

Okay and it showed up as a fucking

Turkish ice cream seller

because that's what you fucking look like

it said Albanian and Greece

100%

you look like a Turkish ice cream

performer that's what you're fucking destined to be in life.

I'm sorry. I go to the beach. You're calling in life.

The only reason you're not a fucking

Turkish ice cream stand guy

is because of technology, you fucking ape.

They invented a fucking webcam

and computers, so now you're performing

a fucking camera instead of on the street making ice cream for people.

That's what you're fucking destined to be in life.

Ha's, you were supposed to be an 18T worker, bro.

And what happened?

No, you were, no, idiot.

I was in, no, retard.

Actually, retard. I was in law school on a scholarship, actually. No, retard. Actually, retard.

I was in law school on a scholarship, actually.

You were meant.

You were in a law school and you were meant.

You were meant.

You were in a debate.

You were meant to be an ice cream Turkish singer.

Jasmine and Haas.

The Trinity of lawyers getting bitched by a 20-year-old.

Like, come on.

You're actually 20. That's incredible.

You've destroyed your whole reputation.

You humiliated yourself. Your ancestors are humiliated. And any seed, any, any, any, if you, God forbid, God forbid if you reproduce, which I doubt because you're gay, probably. But if you do, God forbid, your descendants,

you have humiliated,

you have humiliated bloodlines.

You have humiliated all bloodlines that will descend from you forever.

Your sons will be ashamed of what you forever. Your sons will

be ashamed of what they see.

Their sons will be ashamed of what they see

and it will be eternal. You have humiliated

your entire bloodline in both directions.

You're a caffer. You're a caffer.

Your ancestors, your Muslim ancestors would hate you

they would hate you I don't think so

I don't think so they would hate you

because you abandon your religion for Jews

that's really not true

yeah sure yeah it's really not true. Yeah, sure.

Yeah, it's really not true, though.

So here's the thing.

You can claim this and say this, but the fact of the matter is what you have done tonight humiliating yourself, being a liar, failing to follow a single consistent line of argumentation, this will be eternal.

You are actually a fucking idiot.

You're eternally going to get raped by me for years.

Like you think this is the last time you're seeing me

it's going to be over.

So I just have to point it out.

I have to point it.

It's like you got to take a shot every time.

Another unprompted homosexual statement

by Noxter.

Unprompted.

It's just like no one knows where it's coming from.

But it sounds a lot like this guy has a chip on his shoulder.

And that chip needs to be tested for something

because

go ahead

I have a chip on my shoulder

it might not be in your shoulder

I don't think the chip is on your shoulder.

I think it's lodged somewhere dark and where no one should ever deign to explore.

Unless you're a fucking doctor who's who's unfortunately going to have to take it out go ahead hars what have you done like

what are you talking about ship on your what have you done what do you have you done hos for your movement

you came around the time that hasan you know destiny nick a couple of the old, and you're like the fucking biggest failure of all of them.

If that's true, why are you here?

Why am I here?

Because it's like, oh, let me get on kick and let me stream.

Wait.

Oh, it's that one retard who used to look a monkey on Twitch that was a communist retard.

And he would yell and rage and debates.

I was like, that, yeah, he was funny.

I was like, let me go.

And then I saw you shit at your other workers. And I was like, no way. was funny. I was like, let me go. And then I saw you shitting your other workers.

And I was like, no way.

So I had to pitch you in a debate.

And then I came over here.

I was like, do you think,

I was like, you know,

his chat's moving a little bit of a little slow.

Let me give him some fucking content

and that's what I did for you

okay so you did all this

to give me content

I mean bro your case set

he's boom in the way I made your chat boom

this was all free content

that's your you're saying you did this uh to help

help make my stream more entertaining

yeah you definitely needed it

okay

um do you feel proud for yourself i was 10 years old when you were, yeah, I'm so fucking true.

I was 10 years old, but this guy was in like law school.

I'm gonna be a great communist debater.

I got bullied in school at 14.

I need to, I need to do a style of a little more than doing.

You're failing.

You think I got bullied in school based on what?

You're height, faggot.

You are literally five. You claim on the internet to be 510, means you're probably five seven which is one and shorter than me listen you are not when you five seven i'm five eight so five six hars you're like shorter than I'm 5-8. So 5-6.

Haz, Drew,

you're like shorter than Slicker.

You understand that?

No, I can't, I can't.

Slickers definitely shorter than you.

Look, even if that was true, though,

I mean, I don't understand

let me ask you a question

do you follow

you know what you're 20 so I'm gonna cut you

some slack

do you follow the looks maxing on TikTok trend

no I don't believe all that black black mac

what is it? Black pill

shit. No, because you sound like you're like

really into the physical, you sound like you're into

men's physical features a lot. It's like

a big thing that's the one that brought up a prostate.

No,

I said this many,

I didn't say that. I didn't say that.

I did not say that.

Did you not bring up a prostate?

I really didn't.

I really didn't.

I really did not do that.

Definitely didn't.

I don't know what you're thinking about, but it's definitely not.

Yeah, how's your fucking little.

All right.

So what, what's, what's going on with the, with you, do you, do you, uh, you talk to women?

Yeah, you see my content. Okay. So you, you, you, do you speak to women yeah you see my content okay so you you speak to women sometimes no no no no

i don't just speak to woman okay i i put you're a player is that we're on hot i put on has infrared on TV

wow I can just make some background

noise

well I'm just

and then I

turn my head to the side

and I lose my

my erection immediately

I'm like fuck

there's this ugly human being Ha hives, just mouthing out.

Wow. So it's, it's, it's you, so is it an extraordinary. So wait, is there a type of man that would, would, would be turned on by while you are, uh, engaging in intercourse?

Is that something

you're actually admitting

that...

I don't know.

There is a man out there

who would be it for you.

Maybe Nick Fuentes?

I don't know.

Jackson's a little short

and petite.

Like Jackson's almost your... I think Jackson's a little short and petite. Like, Jackson's almost your...

I think Jackson's a little bit shorter than you...

Tell us... Tell us more about your...

Your preferences in men's looks.

Continue.

Tell us more about that.

Well, do you have a girlfriend now?

Yeah. about that. Well, do you have a girlfriend now? Look how

unprompted this guy is, like,

inquiring into

very private questions.

Oh, you don't want to...

That sound like, that sound like he's like he's like oh

I guess this guy

Is an elite figure within the political world? He has to hide his girl

Are you are you uh are you would you consider yourself a player

I gotta go right now Are you, are you, are you, would you consider yourself a player?

I got to go right now.

Oh, you have one?

Yeah.

Do you have a girl, really?

Yeah.

Does she go to a different school?

I don't go to school.

We just don't know her because she goes to a different school, right?

She's in Canada?

No, no, no, no, no, no.

But she's real, right?

Yeah.

What kind of, what's her Japanese name in anime?

She's Albanian, and she's Catholic.

Oh, what's the pillow look like? Can we see the pillow?

He's talking about a pillow, right?

Why are you projecting all your past trauma onto me like i don't have anything to do with that right i don't have anything to do with that you understand how is you being a loser your

whole life and girls being taller than you and you having to beg them for love and sex that's

not me i never had to do that no you're a player right never said i was a player so when you're with

your girl what men do you watch on tv when you look on the right you said you don't want to watch my stream so what what men do you watch on TV when you look on the right?

You said you don't want to watch my stream. So what men do you watch?

I go to

Twitter.com slash

Noxter or I go to

Kate.com slash noxter and I'm like

yes, that's what a real man looks like.

I get a heart to myself.

You ever seen American cycle?

I'm like, yes.

Yes, this guy's Compton.

So you're a grope, right?

This is what you are?

I'm anything you want to call me.

Okay. Okay.

And, um, you like women or no?

Yeah.

You didn't say that with a lot of conviction.

You didn't say that with a lot of conviction. You didn't say that with a lot of conviction you do you you didn't say that with a lot of conviction

do you do you like women

well the facts speak

for themselves in my case

but you didn't say that with a lot of conviction

I don't know if you got a girl or not.

Okay.

Again, it's not, it's like, it's like this guy, he's inquiring to.

Yo, babe, you do me a favor real quick?

Yeah.

Just do me a favor.

Tell this little short communist faggot.

His name is Haz.

Tell Haz he's a faggot for me, babe.

Will you?

Hodge, you're a fucking faggot.

And that's your cousin?

Hey, babe, how tall are you again?

You're 5'2, right?

Yeah.

Yeah, you're almost the same size as him. This guy has

the balls that talk shit to me. Like, what the

fuck? When is your next family

gathering? It's your cousin, right?

I know it's depressing.

It's like, what the fuck? Anyways, baby.

Why did you call your cousin?

I called my cousin.

Yeah.

You actually called your

Albanian cousin to say that on stream?

Do you think that makes you

look cool? That you called your Albanian

cousin?

Bye.

What if your uncle knew about that?

Can you call your girl?

Can you call someone who's not your cousin

or that you're related to?

Here we go. We have to keep coping. Yeah.

Keep coping. Keep jumping. Keep coping.

Yeah. Hyes.

Wait, can you smile at the camera like that

again? You look like a Turkish ice cream seller.

No way.

You know what you

look like?

You look like

a skinnier

version of the

the Skibbitty

guy.

That's honest

to God

it.

Bitty!

Skibb

dub,

dub,

dub,

dub,

yes, yes.

Can you sing

that, please? Can you sing, Skibbity. Can you sing that,

please?

Can you sing

the Skibbitty

song?

Because that's

really what you

look like.

How many

subs?

20

subs to me

guys and he'll

sing it.

No,

not to you. Not to this fucking and he'll sing it. Nah, not to you.

Not to this fucking...

Not to this mongoloy.

To me, bitch.

Did you get that from Nick Fuentes as well?

Would you say he's a high IQ person?

Yeah. You'd say Nick is IQ person? Yeah.

You'd say Nick is high IQ?

Yeah.

I'm glad.

I mean, I wanted to ask a high IQ person what their opinion was so I'd know.

Because it takes a high IQ person to know that, you know?

And you're clearly high IQ.

Look, that's not 20 subs, bitch.

You lost the nick in the fucking debate.

You're clear. Yeah, you would know.

You're so smart, you would know.

You would clearly know. You're literally the judge of

intelligence. You're the epitome of that.

Talking about Africa.

Like, who gives a fuck about Africa?

Do you smoke pot?

No.

Why I smoke weed?

Okay.

Is that a brush for your beard?

Yeah.

So people that can grow beards, they don't need a brush at it beard? Yeah. So people that can grow

beards, they don't need a brush at age.

You can just grow out.

Yeah, no, I have really...

Back when I was like a little Muslim...

What's going on, Dan?

So you converted from Islam to Catholicism?

No.

I was starting it as long.

I had liked it a lot, to be honest.

Because the whole thought of me

going up to Haas and be like,

do you believe? And you'd be like,

I believe in communism.

I could have just

shinging.

You could tell I'm wrong

because of the way you made my voice sound.

That's a really effective argument.

Orbital, what's going on?

So what's your issue with communism?

Let's hear it.

It seems to be passionate about the subject.

It's a Jewish.

What about Jesus?

What was his ethnicity?

You said this last time in you left. Are you going to say, they're going to do the same thing and leave?

What was Jesus' ethnicity?

2011 and let the five. What's up? Tell me his ethnicity, racially.

So I were talking about his race. So what was Jesus' race?

Are you going to do the same thing and leave? I'm not going to leave. I'm going about his race. So what was Jesus' race? I'm going to do the same thing and leave.

I'm not going to leave.

I'm going to let you answer.

They're going to do it like Shamsie and all these other guys.

When they debate me, they, what was Jesus?

Oh, what was Jesus?

Okay, what was Jesus' ethnicity?

Go ahead.

He was an original Israelite.

Okay. So what does that mean?

That means he was the original Jews, not the modern Jews, because they left.

Okay, what are the modern Jews?

The modern Jews are the Israelis in Israel at the moment.

Well, oh, what's up? So Jesus was not a Jew. Is that what you're saying?

No. By blood, he wasn't a Jew.

Yeah, the original Jews. original. The original Jews.

Okay. So the Jews

are different. So what's the difference between the Jews?

What does it matter? Because

they killed him. Like if anything, he's God,

it shouldn't matter what ethnicity God is.

A Jew tried to

kill Lenin.

A Jew tried to kill Lenin. A Jew tried to what?

Kill Lenin.

Okay.

Many Jews didn't like Marx, so what's your point?

Okay, does it mean that?

Okay, is leftist ideology Jewish propaganda?

You tell me, is it?

Yeah.

Where does the left come from? Can you explain?

From your little fucking faggit

ideology

can you stop copying

Zerka's

mannerisms and just

answer straight

just like answer

the normal person

naturally

wow that took

about

stop trying to

look cool

and just

answer the question

where does

where does the left wing come from in history?

I'm aware of debating, and this guy's obviously copying Zirka.

Nice.

You just stop copying how Zerka's tone sounds, just sound normal.

Where does the left come from in history?

Go ahead.

Should I talk like you? Did you talk like yourself, actually?

So you talked with me for an hour? You don't think I haven't talked like myself?

Can you answer the question?

Are you going to answer my question? No, I'm asking you the question. I can answer my question.

No, I'm asking you the question.

Where does the left wing come from?

I just said it's not Jewish, so where does it come from?

Well, for you, Mr. Haas, infrared, which voice would you like me to use while I...

Would you like me to use while I would you like me to use while I

conversate in these particular

moments, Haas?

How can I do you justice what's your problem with communism my problem with communism is you worship a jewish god

the bolsheviks, you idolized them.

Did you say Jewish God?

Are you gonna go with your last?

What was Jesus?

What was Jesus?

I do like you to understand that.

It doesn't matter what Jesus

So answer it

Like you're such a fucking little

So is that your answer?

Yeah

Okay

So hi,

you don't have an argument

That's great

You literally did this the whole, the whole time when I asked you about Sharia, when I asked you about, you haven't even explained the Hadiths.

Like there's so many things you haven't explained.

So your problem with communism was that Marx was ethnically Jewish by blood, correct?

Are you scared of your face?

I just think you're

the white person. Everyone should see the white race.

Thank you.

They should all see what the white

mom looks like. Yeah white he is flirting with me

dude I don't know

once again unprompted homosexual

this guy

unprompted unprompted unprompted

unprompted he's always bringing it back to one thing

can you call your girlfriend

can I talk to her

I want to ask her some questions

can you call her?

No you cannot talk to my girl

can I call her no because I'm genuinely worried about this.

I want to see, you know, because it kind of seems like your cousin should know.

What's going on here?

Not a lot. I'm like a Muslim like you guys, bro. I don't let you even look at my woman.

You just put her on streaming for

everyone, everyone heard her voice.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm going to call somebody, don't worry.

Hello, kind, sir.

Hello, hello.

I'm in a, I'm in a call with Mr. Haas infrared himself.

You know that, Kaffir?

Yes.

Now, I want to hear, because you know more about Islam than me, right?

I want to hear the Islamic perspective upon

why Haas is going to

rot deep in hell

like Stalin and like Marx.

I want you to go ahead and explain.

Go ahead. First of all, because we had to believe in the

Sharia. Communism is opposite from the Sharia. Democracy, communism, first of all, because we had to believe in the Sharia.

Communism is opposite from the Sharia.

Democracy, communism, this is all Kufr.

Anyone who believes in this is a kaffir.

Haas is a kaffer.

If he dies upon what he's dying upon right now, he died kaffir and Kufar go to hell.

Yeah.

Things what communism, Allah says in the Quran the hukum is for

Allah that means legislation is for Allah

when someone legislates something else

that Allah Allah described

in the Quran this person

is a kaffir

okay can I ask this guy a question?

Yeah, you want to add him to the thing?

No, I'd just keep him on your phone.

Oh, you want to run from Abuisa.

Okay, I'm not surprised.

Keep him on the phone.

No, no, no.

I mean, you can join

it the right way, but go ahead, run.

So you, oh, guys, guys, back in the day, back of

2016, you were not done this shit.

But no, you want to be like, it. It's going to

take a long time for him to join

the Discord. No, it's not. Okay, then have him do time for him to join the Discord.

No, it's not.

Okay, then have him do it.

Have him join the Discord.

I don't care.

In the Discord, I'm going to send you the invite, okay?

Okay, invite me, invite me.

Let's go ahead.

Okay.

I'm telling you it's going to take time.

You can just have him on right there. You're going to remove his rolls and then bring his rolls back, remove his rolls and bring...

That's not me.

And you've been talking all regular.

Oh, we have a lot of people in the...

Don't worry.

Yeah, no, no, no.

It's fine.

It's fine.

I'll tell you his name.

Don't worry. Don't worry.

Don't worry.

Your mouths can hear me say his name.

Can you talk about how Jesus would approve of you claiming Tyler Robinson was in my

Discord?

I want to hear more about that.

What would Jesus think of that?

Can you tell me why you're so fucking short? to hear more about that. What would Jesus think of that? Back and forth.

Can you tell me why you're so fucking short, you can't grab

your fucking

what?

Serial.

Again with the cereal?

Yeah, again with the cereal.

Yeah, again with the G is like,

what the fucking is that?

What's going on with cereal?

Is cereal really high up or something?

You can't reach it.

Why is it difficult to reach cereal of all things?

Can you explain that?

How does it feel to be shorter than a gay man?

You know, you know, you were talking about yourself, for sure.

And, uh,

I don't know how it feels.

I mean,

it just doesn't really feel like anything

London

What the fuck? What the fuck

Alright

Let me call him

you're going to join

through the link yeah

join through the link and then

are you going to give him rules or does he have to

like click something for a roll

what does he have to do

you're not going to say it, right?

Yeah.

I don't know what his username is.

I told you this is going to take a while.

It's not, pro.

What's his username?

Simple.

Mods, you got to roll him up.

It's Abuisa.

Okay. Give him a roll okay give him a roll Anyways, while he figures that out

Because I'll bring you some content with the focus that

My cats

Why?

So what led you over to

The White race

Being born into it

no I mean like as a white

nationalist what is what's your

what's your view on that

what do you think you should be deported

or do you think you're a...

I'm asking you, I mean, like, do you think you should be deported?

Are you a Muslim, right?

Yeah, I mean, I say I am.

Interesting.

Anyways, there's different, you know, like, there's different you know there's different

rankings

upon the races

within Islam

right

what

really

according to

within

the Islamic

text

what are you

talking about

can you cite the text

not I didn't I would have massive wrong but let me ask text. What are you talking about? Can you cite the text?

Nah, I didn't. I was there massive.

All right. Let me ask you a question. Are there rankings within the white race?

No. Hold on.

You ask me. No, no, no. Answer this question. Are there rankings within the white race?

Yeah, it starts off with me and then you. You're at the bottom.

No, no, be honest about this question. Are there rankings in the white race?

Like, are some white people more superior than others?

Yeah, I'm superior to you.

So Albanians are the most superior white people?

Some of them are.

No, no, no.

I mean, there's a white race

He's different

Abouisa join

He's up there

He's the one with the red profile

picture drag him in

Okay

So are you his boyfriend

No

No Noxa is a Kaffer bro Knox's a Kaffir his boyfriend? No,

Knox there's a Kaffer, bro.

Knox's a Kaffer.

Okay, because I told him to bring

his girlfriend.

No, no.

And he said, oh, no, I'll bring my boyfriend

and he called you.

Can you see me? Can you see me? I just want to... No. Yeah. Yeah. I keep going to. Can you see me?

Can you see me?

I just want to,

you know what?

No, it's okay.

I destroyed you, Haas.

I want a Muslim now.

Nah, I mean, okay.

Let me see if I can.

I got to ask you one question.

You said that the Sharia is

law that comes from God

how do we know

what God wanted the law to be

through the Quran right do you believe

in the Quran? Yeah how do we

interpret that? How do we interpret that? We interpret that through the sahaba and the salaf okay so the sab and the righteous predecessors the three generations also crown itself says uh in verse 544 those who do not judge by what Allah has revealed surely are the disbelievers.

Okay.

So this is how we know.

So

the Sahaba are those

who have the right

to interpret the Quran.

Is that correct?

Well,

they know a lot

of the explanation

because they were there

with the messenger of the prophet

also we also know the prophet as well who interpreted the Quran as well but uh and Allah himself

he says the legislation is only for him and uh so but the legislation is the Quran, is that correct?

Legislation is not just only the Quran, but anything they do with the Sharia.

So the Hadith, it could be the Hadith and the Quran, yeah.

How do you know if a Hadith is legitimate or not?

We know a Hadith if it's legitimate or not? We know a

hadith if it's legitimate or not if it's

so something's right or not. So

chain of narration. So for example

you have, let's say

I have, we see something from

let's say Nick Fuentesentes in the call, right?

Yeah.

Nick Fuentes in this call

and Nick Fuentes says

I am, I'm gay.

Okay?

Let's put it like that.

Okay?

Right.

Listen, I don't like Nick.

I don't like Nick, bro.

You know, I don't like Nick.

Nick says, I am gay.

How do I turn my camera on?

God damn it.

But Nick says, I am gay, okay?

And me, you, and Knoxter, we hear it.

And then Knoxter goes heads and tells his sons,

and his son tells his son

and he writes it down

and you hear and you tell your son

and I hear and I tell my son

and there's a whole

it's a whole science to it so basically

if I'm a liar if I'm a known

a liar who has memorization

problems and stuff

like this, then basically my chain

is with my sons, you can't

take from it. But you still have a couple

other chains from you and your sons and not from

his friends. But the Hadith doesn't come from God

directly, right?

You have Hadith Qutzi, which comes from God directly, and then you have Hadith Kudsi,

which comes from God directly,

and then you have Hadith with through that messenger.

So there's certain Hadith,

there's certain Hadith, for example, that come from Allah as well,

because the same way,

the same, I'll tell you how,

because the prophet

peace be upon

and received all the

revelation besides,

besides,

besides,

besides just the Quran.

And the Quran shows

that he received

other Wahhi besides the Quran.

That's why.

But how do you know,

how do you know,

uh, if you go to Sura Bakrha, 2-143 to 2-144.

I'm going to pull it up real quick.

Let me see, Quran.com.

But if you pull it up, it talks about a kibla, right?

And it says, we have made you follow a kibla.

Now we're going to change the kibla, where they change the direction.

Because I used to be a Quranist, but it's kind of inconsistent.

Not really consistent with the crown

it's going to change the direction but where does

that say? Yeah, Allah says yes

Allah says you change the direction the kibla

to a new kibbla.

But the problem is where is the command

in the crown to follow the first kibla?

There's no there's no command in the crown to follow the first Kibla. There's no command

in the Quran to follow the first Kibla.

And that shows you that the Prophet peace be upon

received the other revelation.

There's also other examples like this.

I believe in 66.

Where is it proven that those

other revelations are recorded

in Hadiths? Where does the Quran say that?

The Quran says that Moses was given,

the prophets were given a wisdom, but

where is it proven that the Quran says that? It says

a Quran says many times in 465

and other verses where it says follow the message that. It says, Quran says many times in 465 and

other verses where it says

follow the messenger and follow Quran

and follow the messenger. And what

does that show? What does that entail you?

What do you think that entails? How do you know

if the hadiths are legitimate or not?

Besides an unbroken...

I just said it's...

Because we know it goes back chain and narrations.

We know it goes literally goes right back to the prophet.

Just like how we know...

How do you know...

Like I could say, how do you know the Quran is from the Prophet Muhammad?

How do you know?

Well, because the Quran is what is supposedly the direct word of God recorded, right?

How do you know? How do you know that comes from Muhammad?

Well, there's no dispute among Muslims about it. No, but there's no dispute. Muslims about it no but there's no dispute

there's really no dispute about

Muslims about the

the Hadith

I think there are there are

disputes with about the Hadith

well about about about about

weak about week of course

like I totally agree with that yeah there's this

had a week you don't you don't really act upon

how weak ad ad yeah but if it's if it's

sahi that has have it has

change that go back to the prophet change

change in narration that go back to the prophet

no one disputes this

this is a consensus well but there's

no proof that the hadith is referenced in the koran is this legitimate source of revelation

yeah uh there is uh if i a fucking short real quick

Let me pull it up on my thing

Okay

Okay um

Could you look at uh

I think it's 663, let me follow up Quran.com.

But even if I can use only Quran, even if, even if I can use only Quran why communism is Cooper because Allah

Allah says in the Quran that those, for example,

would you say a fortune teller

ascribes the right of God

unto himself when he says he knows the future?

I think according to the Islamic tradition,

it's against fortune-telling.

Orbitol, appreciate you.

Yeah.

So the same way, when Allah says in the Quran,

that legislation is only for him,

and this is his right

when a communist like Carl

Marx, whatever

like when he, this Jew,

whenever, whatever he does,

when he makes

why are you saying Marx

was a Jew?

He's a Jew, bro.

This is a fact, man.

This is a fact that is Jewish.

If a Jew by blood converts to Islam, are they still a Jew?

Oh, no, but ethnicity-wise, no.

I have no problem if someone converts to Islam

when they're a Jew. They have no problem with that, dude.

I used to be...

What is the Jew ethnicity? What does that mean?

Someone who comes from

Benny Israel, but do the Jews even today

come from Benny Israel, the same tribe of Muslims today come from the Benny Israel, the same tribal

wolves? I don't know. Bang. But that's not a Jew. He was a Christian, confessionally.

Okay, fine. You can, you, you, okay, I'll give you that, whatever that. Whatever, you can defend Marx. That's not really my point.

But my point is, when you have people like Marx legislating laws besides Allah, Allah's law,

you have him ascribing a law's right onto himself, because Allah says legislation is only for him in the Quran.

Now to answer your question about the Hadith

if you look at 663

in the Quran, chapter 66

verse 3 and remember

when the prophet confined to one

of his wives a statement and this statement

is Hadithan. It's called Hadithen.

Um, and when she informed another of it, this statement, and Allah showed it to him, he made known part of it and ignored part of a part.

And when he informed her about it, she said, who told you this he said i was i was informed

by the knowing the aware so right here he said who his wife who said who said this haddhadi to you

he said allah but now the question is where is this hadith it's not in the caran but somewhere else

so this proves right there that the prophet it's not in the Quran but somewhere else so this proves right there

that the prophet received

other revelations

beside the Quran

and there's many other

examples of this

some revelations he told to his wife

and his wife told others

yeah and it's not in the Quran

but is that a had a hadith

yes I got to pull up the Quran. But is that a Hadith?

Yes, I got to pull up the Hadith.

Actually, there's a Hadith that coincides with this.

But there's many verses like this, man.

Like, it's, I used to be a Quranist.

I mean, that's not, that's not, I mean, that's not, that's not really, that's not really an argument to say I used to be something.

Well, here's my question. Here's my question. When it comes to the Quran's description of the establishment of laws, what does it say? What is

the law? Because the law comes

from God, right? How do we know

how to interpret that? You said

from the Quran and from Hadiths, right?

But the role of

the Hadiths is to be interpretive, correct?

Some, not all. Sometimes they have commands as well.

Like you have certain commands as well, just like you have commands in the crown.

You think in any given command, does context matter?

Or can a command hold for

any possible context? Is that

possible?

Is it possible for there to be a command

or law devoid of context?

That's why they have something

called Tefsir.

It's like

interpretation

like a lot of the

sahaba and

like the three generations

they they did

tepseer certain verses

but uh

yeah i believe

I mean I take the verses

more so literal

because Allah says in the Quran

this is clear he made the book clear and understanding. I believe Allah says it himself that the book is clear. Does clarity mean that there's no difficulty in, or let's put a difficulty away that doesn't take much effort to understand

can something be clear without difficult can something be clear but simultaneously difficult

uh to fully understand because i think saying that to fully understand. Because I think saying that to fully understand the Quran is easy, would be a wrong thing to say if you're a Muslim.

Well, to fully understand the Quran is to really

there's obviously context to

everything you know

but when God says it's literal

when he said it's clear what does the

clear mean

what does that clear mean that means

why would why would

God send a book down

for it not to be clear to us?

Because I could answer that.

I think that

I think that God sent the Quran

to be understood in context to a specific historical circumstance, which I think he expected people to remember correctly. I didn't think he said, oh, you can forget about history and what factually happened. You can forget about

what's going on. You can forget about

the situation that you're in

concretely. All you need

is this book out of context. I don't think that

was the point. I think the point

was that A,

you need historical context, and then B, you need the book,

which tries to make meaningful sense of reality in that context, but therefore and simultaneously, providing...

Okay, let me ask you a question because I don't want to be too presumptuous.

Do you think there's an underlying logic in the Quran that's non-superficial?

Meaning, do you think there's a logic in the Quran that

you would say it's like a wisdom?

Like it's a wisdom. What do you mean?

Like, there's logic in it where there's a wisdom.

You think it's deeper than what it appears as

or on the surface?

No, no,

no, this is not how the... You don't think

there are... You don't think there are

deeper wisdoms

that are more than just what

appears on the surface? There are some

schools of thought that

I completely, like, we completely beef each other

because of this but uh no i think this is i think this is wrong because if you look at how the sahaba

understood it they understood a literal and you know and this has seen as extreme like would you say

let me ask you question would you say that the koran is is only for specific time or you think

it's applicable for all time i would say for all time but I would say the issue is the interpretation.

These alerts are fucking killing me too.

Do you kick him?

I didn't kick him. What the fuck are you talking about?

I'm focused on these fucking alerts I just tell him to reconnect

I didn't fucking kick him

Go ahead

I'm focused on these alerts right now

Trying to figure out where the fuck

It's probably

It's probably

What are you streaming on?

OBS or stream labs?

Stream labs.

Um, it's probably connected to the stream labs.

You gotta hide the alerts or turn them off.

I don't know where it is in my sources.

I can't see it.

Um, go look at your...

Here, hold on, let me...

Tips, not tips, logo.

I can't fucking see this.

Jesus, man.

You're supposed to be the one teaching me what to do.

You've been doing this for you.

Bro, it's fucking...

Go over the...

I have horrible trouble hearing you.

It's actually annoying.

I don't know how I can get rid of this shit.

This is fucking crazy.

Hopefully you fix it.

When you look at your,

when you look at your sources,

do you have a follow bot?

No,

I don't have anything.

I don't,

I'm supposed to have an alert box,

I think. Okay, go to your settings, go'm supposed to have an alert box, I think.

Okay, go to your settings. Go to your settings and it will be there where, um, you can turn off

alerts.

Um, stream. I don't think I see this. This is not here. It's not in settings at all.

Jesus Christ.

Oh, man. I think you're... shit.

Haas, you gotta to get an assistant man

supposed to be alerts

honestly, it's usually alerts.

Yeah, it is supposed to be an

hoarse.

Stream label, super chat

now I remove the alert box

I don't know why this is showing up

Petersburg thank you bro

oh fuck bro. Oh, fuck.

Yo,

Noxter.

All right,

let's just,

let's just continue it.

I mean,

there's nothing I can do

about this shit until

yeah,

there's just nothing

I can do about it.

But my question would be, when God says in the Quran

that legislation is only for him,

and many people, obviously from the, you know,

Sahaba, this is like obviously a thing, you know, Sahaba,

this is like obviously a thing that,

uh,

you're supposed to believe,

especially in Islam,

you're supposed to believe that the Sharia is the best.

Um,

so I would,

look,

I would say,

I would say that I'm a religious materialist.

And what that means to me is that... Okay.

I think that the meaning of what God is even supposed to refer to, I think that the meaning of the laws, I think that the meaning of revelation

is always

always has a content

that is directly meaningful

given

you know let's say the given existence of a people.

Like, it's already something meaningful.

It already refers to something that they regard as meaningful and which makes sense of the world that they live in in some kind of way.

So, God, for example, means the ultimate or absolute being.

And referencing God to people was not like referencing a space alien, some arbitrary character from a fiction story.

When the name of God was invoked, people knew what that was.

They understood what that meant.

It meant the ultimate absolute being, you know, the ultimate reality, the ultimate being of the universe, the ultimate reality

the ultimate being of the universe

the ultimate actor

the ultimate

you know

hold on

this is really distracting

everyone's fucking losing their mind over this shit

but um

yeah no worries.

I...

Fuck

this is so annoying.

What the fuck is this costume?

All right. Alright, um

guys, don't bitch at me about the sound. I can't do anything about it.

I mean, I can, you know what I can do? I can pause it. Let me try that.

Unpause alert cue. Oh, wait. Mute event sounds.

Perfect.

Hold on.

So let it...

Just for my Muslim friends.

I just up for you guys.

Love you guys.

He's just gonna come kill the pig, you know that, right?

I fucking, I, I, I muted the event sounds and I paused.

You can't hide it, you can't hide it because you don't...

Why do you think I call myself Abuisa?

What is... Father O. Issa.

I have a blasphemer's name

in your religion.

But Abuisa,

you fucking know

you know how I feel about pigs

within Christianity.

What happened?

You know how I feel about Pigs within Christianity.

Okay, bro, I did something wrong with this

micro, like, I don't know what's wrong with it, bro.

It's like very low.

Ever since I was streaming tonight, it was like so low,

bro.

I have no idea, man.

Oh my god, it's still bothering me.

This fucking alerts.

Are you here again?

Alright, you can, okay, you can respond to my point about religious materialism.

What about religious materialism. About religious materialism.

My point

is

to be a Muslim.

There's things that you cannot, there's things that can take you

out the fold of, like, whether, whatever

how modern Islam, how

it is now, how, you know, they kind of, it's kind of almost like turning into Christianity where it's getting infiltrated, in my opinion.

And I'm going to get to your point in a second, inshallah.

Basically,

the whole idea to be a Muslim,

there's things that can take you out

the religion.

You can't be

a Muslim is obviously

what you are, what you believe in your actions.

Be a Muslim, there's certain things that you have to believe, obviously like all the prophets and stuff like this.

Once you start saying that, communism, I believe in this, it's the same thing as me saying, I believe in this it's the same thing as me saying I believe in Buddha

I disagree that are in in this is this is how you become a Muslim there's no separation of church and state and Islam.

It might sound extreme, but that's how...

It happens, though.

You guys there? You guys hear me? i can hear you now yeah i got freaking um you guys still hear me yeah haz all right go ahead wow okay i can turn it off in terms of the visibility i What? Wow.

Okay, I can turn it off in terms of the visibility.

I just can't turn off the fucking sound.

Pause, bro.

What the fuck?

I'm almost...

The sound is bothering me a lot, but at least we are fucking stupid.

Anyway...

Um... No, I disagree.

I think that in Islam,

I'll share you my opinion.

In Islam, when it comes to words,

Islam is materialist and not idealist,

and what I mean by that is that

the meaning of a word is not the form.

If the meaning of a word is just the form,

then you're in the realm of idealism.

You're in the realm of idolatry.

You're idolizing a form.

No different than you'd idolize a statue

or you'd idolize any other

static depiction of

being. Hold on, hold on. Hots. Hold on.

He can't hear you because he lagged.

Just join and get through your phone.

Just join it through your phone.

Yeah, just disconnect and reconnect.

Yeah.

My fault.

Hazz, when are we going to see you dress up as a costume?

Never.

Why not?

Hold on, is Jolani here?

What's going on, Jolani?

Why the fuck is there a...

What the fuck? What the fuck? Jolani is there a what the fuck

Jolani is here by the way

I don't know what the hell that is

Alaykum alaikum

Asalam alaykum

For Jolani

Okay is this the real Jolani

Uh

Jolani Jolani do you want to eat me Jolani uh jollani

jollani do you want to eat me jollani

jollani do you want to eat me jollani

i'm kosher

is this really him this is jollani

hello my sheeptile brother, what are you doing?

What's up, sheep?

How are you doing, brother?

You want to eat me, bro,

what's wrong with this guy?

Can you speak?

Okay.

So, Jolani, what's going on?

What brings you here?

Of all places.

Oh, he's... He laughs.

So, wow, what is that

That sound?

How do you do that?

Why is your fire alarm going off?

What's going on with that?

I don't hear that.

I don't hear that.

I don't hear that.

Okay.

Jolani.

Jolani, what brings you here?

What's going on?

I received a call from an Albanian brother.

Yeah?

What do you say?

What do you say?

Yeah, what do you say? He's getting owned by like a

Lebanese man

I can never be owned by a gay Lebanese man

so the

Giovanni profile

your profile picture is not

showing you have a Chebaraushka why do you have a chebureushka is your a profile picture

yeah you don't have the you don't have your on discord it's jollani's face but on on my stream it's a cheburuyska

oh because i like cheperoshka okay well yo mr lububu man let's bring on the this is the

anarchist what does the anarchist want to debate about?

Jesus, okay.

Yo, the booboo, Julani.

Yeah, what's up? Brother, do you want to eat me brother

yo what what is the

this one you wanted to debate me correct

no not necessarily a debate but i just had some questions

okay you know what i'm gonna be rude right now and say that sounds really fucking boring.

That sounds so incredibly fucking boring.

You don't want to debate.

You just want to ask me fucking questions.

Can I ask you a question?

Do I look like your friend?

Do I look like just someone who wants to talk to you and have discussions?

No, I'm asking questions.

No, I'm asking questions because I'm talking about joining the ACD.

Give fucking 10 subs if you want to ask me a fucking question, all right?

Like, what is this?

Okay, let's bring on the other guy. All right. Like, what is this? Okay, let's bring on the other guy.

All right,

Abuisa.

Are you there?

Yes.

I'm here.

What's up?

Yeah.

So...

Hi.

Did you ask the ethnicity of Abuisa?

No,

I don't care.

So,

uh,

now he doesn't care.

So I was,

what I wanted to say?

Why not?

Why not?

Why don't you care

that he's in Albania?

Why doesn't it?

What happened?

Because you're not the

fucking white supremacist,

you fucking idiot cuck.

Because you're not a fucking white nationalist.

Ask you a bitch.

Ask him.

Ask him.

Maybe he is.

Are you a white nationalist?

No, I used to be.

I used to be a Nazi.

You used to be a Nazi.

Wow.

Okay.

Yeah. But Hitler letting me Islam. Fascinating. So what I wanted to ask, or what I wanted to say is that I think in Islam, there's no textual formalism. I think formalism is a form of paganism. It's idolatry.

In order to actually understand the wisdom and logic behind divine revelation, which encompasses the absolute of being, the absolute of existence, the absolute of reality, right? There has to be a deeper content behind or corresponding to the form. So a word, the meaningfulness of the word, is not in the appearance of the word or the form of the word. It's in what the word signifies. For there to be both a signifier and a signified implies that words already have or imply relationships.

So a word is meaningful insofar as it signifies something, not itself.

And to me, you know, when we talk about communism or we talk about Islam or we talk about what all these words actually mean, we have to be thinking about what are the relationships that they imply.

And in order to do that, I think we do have to go beyond the surface. I think we do have to, we have to regard them as actually signifying something meaningful

not not not just like a static dead

idol you know that is

devoid of this says this so do do do what X says

because X says this exactly I think that's okay that was the

that was the logic of the pharisees in jesus this time and that was the whole conflict that's

recorded between jesus and the pharisees was was over that and I don't think Islam is a return to the

pharicitical or whatever

logic.

I don't think, I have, I disagree with

well, I do believe that that's why

that's my problem with the New Testament. That's why

my problem with Paul and

some, no, suppose you have some early church fathers who are like almost similar to Pharisees in some aspects.

But my thing with that is when the Quran itself says in like 11.1, when it says it's who or whose verses are perfect for perfected and explain in detail right when the Quran itself says this and it says we have made uh the in an arabic Quran so that you may understand so what does that mean we made an Arabic Quran so that mean you may. So what does that mean? We made an Arabic Quran so that

mean you may understand. We made an Arabic

so you can understand it.

So my thing is the Quran itself

does this. And now my other question

is, do you think Mohammed?

Like two questions. I mean, two

well, my main point is that the Quran itself says this and my second question would be kind of a question. Um, basically, do you think Muhammad went above? You think he did this,

this so-called, like he was against

this so-called textual,

you know, textual literalism?

It depends on what you mean. So, for example,

when he said, I made it in Arabic

so that you would understand it.

I think that's proof of what I'm saying.

Because in Arabic, you have a colloquial language. You have an everyday use of the language

where there are subtleties to how words are used and even how they're pronounced and even

in what tone that they're pronounced and even in what tone that

they're pronounced in order to actually

signify the correct

meaning, right?

And this

this

like, you know,

this quality

of the language comes from something that is embedded in everyday life, something that is in use in everyday life, right? So there's a concrete meaningfulness in the Arabic language that is inseparable from real life, A, and then second is not simply based on a dead form.

If it was based on a dead form, the Quran could be translated into another language, let's say, and be just as

just the same.

Well, yeah, that's not possible.

Yeah.

The translations

are not really

100%

obviously there.

Right.

But I think part of that is because

Arabic is context.

But in addition to the language...

In addition to the language's context, I would argue

history is also a context.

Yeah.

And about that, like, that's the first verse I told you about like the Quran in Arabic.

I guess we both interpret that differently.

I kind of see that because there are T tephseer. I'm not trying to be like, you know, condescending or anything. A lot of the tefsiere and would you say maybe the sahaba, would you agree that the sahaba, maybe I haven't showed you what they thought, or maybe I don't know if you even care what they thought, would you kind of see them as textual literalist?

Or would you, what would you say about that? um honestly i'm not sure okay that's fine if they if i could prove it to you that they were textual literal

literal list and maybe mohammed from the hadith was a textual literal list what would you from the Hadith was a textual

literalist? What would you say then? Would you question

the Hadith or would you

would you, what would you say?

Um, well

what, what, why would, what would argument would you make

citing Hadiths that he was

a textual literalist?

Honestly, again, it also depends on what you mean by

textual literalism. He says

In Abu Dawood, 3.6th,

this is a Hadith. Actually, it's great and good.

Whoever interprets, I haven't looked at the same either, but I actually it's great and good whoever

interprets I haven't looked

to the chain either

but I usually look at the chain

before I uh

I don't stress off my memory

but he says

whoever interprets the crown

by his own opinion

and happens to be correct

he still has he still has erred

so this is a reference to the happens to be correct, he still has erred.

So this is a reference to the importance of the Hadiths

as an unbroken chain of command.

Yeah, and this is what

But the source of this is itself

a Hadith and not the Quran.

The source is itself

from the prophet. This is the prophet said. And he also said, he said,

in a hadith, though, not in a

not in the Quran itself.

Yeah, but then again, it's like,

what would you say? Okay, what would you say about you say okay what would you say about this verse

what would you say about this verse right here

a book where verses

are perfected and then explain in detail

111

I would say yes because because the verses are,

they are giving expression to a relationship between signifiers and signified.

And that is a perfection if we understand it as a relationship.

But if we understand it as a relationship. But if we understand it as a form, as a static, let's say just the arbitrary strokes of the calligraphy and the pronunciations and so on, if this is just a dead letter and that is perfection, I would say no. But I don't think it's necessarily implying that. I don't think it says that anywhere. I think the contrary is true. I think Islam repeatedly tries to evade any kind of idolatry and paganism.

For example, in its rejection of the use of figurative representations and depictions.

So for people to go and just take what we have,

which is just words and text

and language,

and make an idol of that,

I think it goes against the whole point.

If they were...

I wouldn't understand.

If there was any interest in creating goes against the whole point. You know, if they were... I understand. Yeah.

If there is any interest in creating a substantive perfection, which is just a type of thing

that's out there that doesn't demand a relationship, then we would just have idols.

We would have golden calves and bulls and things like that, and we would have pagan kind of. But Islam forces believers to actually understand the meaning, not just follow blindly the letter of the law, but actually understand the meaning, not just follow blindly

the letter of the law, but actually

understand what it means.

And where I have doubts and I have

skepticism is I don't think

the Muslim world actually today

understands the meaning of the

religion.

You have a more so, almost like a, uh,

I don't know if you know what the Escherese are.

I don't like, uh, no.

Well, it's a school of theology.

Obviously, like, do we take my school like

because of Qaeda yeah basically

it's Al Qaeda and there's

different Al Qaeda different they basically

they take everything almost everything

metaphorical like

It's not about

Metaphor is only one type

of literary device.

Okay, there's also other kinds of ways of signifying meaning without directly just throwing in your face, you know, one or zero, okay?

So now, who signified the meaning, though?

That's the thing.

Who signify the meaning?

Are you going to, are we going to do it ourselves?

Okay, you know what?

I'll actually just like point blank, because this is an interesting conversation.

I'll lay out my cards and I will expose my atheism

and just explain what I actually think.

Yeah, because, you know,

this is this,

Ha, ha, ha, ha, so, no, no, let me, let me,

let me, let me do that, though.

I respect this more.

Let me do this.

Let me do that, no, no, no,. Let me do this. No, no, no.

I mean, this is, I've never hidden this.

It's just I'll be more forward about what I actually think in terms of what is revelation, what is God.

How do we know something comes from God?

So this is my opinion.

This is like my private view.

You know, I don't impose it it it's just this is how i

interpret it or how i see it so language you know as per heidegger let's say right as heidelberg

points out is inherently ontological.

So language is the house of being.

Insofar as we as human beings have any connection whatsoever to reality as such, to absolute being, right?

This dispenses itself or discloses itself to us in the form of words and language.

And I think this is true.

And in my view, to speak of a source from God, something comes from God, I will just be up front about something.

I don't believe that God is just this supernatural force that intervenes abruptly in our reality and just like you know um uh uh disrupts the lawfulness of creation so to speak in a way that is alienated like in a way that is just totally like a protrusion upon existence from without.

So I think that to speak of God as a source is to speak of the authenticity of

an ontological authenticity

with respect

to absolute being

and a fidelity and faithfulness of signifiers within language to give way and to reflect that,

to authentically reflect a given historical situation in a way that

situates it within it, a much, much wider,

ontological horizon.

I do not believe, frankly, I just, frankly speaking, I don't believe in, um, you know, the, the more super, I'm very flexible about what nature is and what it can be, but I don't believe in like a supernatural, like, just sudden protrusion into reality that is the source of revelation. I think that...

Interesting.

I think that the prophets were not tricksters who just did magic tricks and confused people into following them and believing them.

I think that the logic of why people followed the prophet of Islam, peace be upon him, and why people followed Jesus, and why people followed all the other prophets of history, obeyed the same logic of why people followed Che Guevara, why they followed

Lenin, why they followed all

revolutionaries throughout history.

And that's how

I interpret

the history of religions.

So

that means it's still going on.

It's still here.

Now,

that is a very,

like,

almost atheistic look on,

like,

how the religion,

because to be honest,

this guy,

this goes against,

like,

you know,

like Orthodox. Like, it might, well, I would say Islam, but know, like orthodox.

Like, it might, well, I would say Islam, but you would say orthodox.

It does, it does go against orthodox interpretations or at least clerical Orthodox interpretations of Islam.

Yeah.

And, you know, I honestly, that's why I say I don't mind if people call me an atheist, doesn't offend me.

But the reason I object to the label atheist is because...

You believe in higher power.

Yeah, I believe there's an objective force of history that's absolute. I believe in absolute truth. I believe in absolute reality. And I reject nihilism. So if I'm an atheist, then it's proof that atheism is not necessarily nihilistic.

On the other hand, I don't know if it would be fair to say I'm an atheist.

I don't think I'm an atheist because I think it is...

I think the invoking of an absolute higher power like God is meaningful.

And to say that there is God, to say that God exists, to me is meaningful.

I mean, it's not a meaningless claim because it doesn't refer to some kind of it's not an empirical claim it's not we're not saying that there's this there's this guy out there who we could sense but we just can't for arbitrary reasons.

And he's just

really magical and he's really big

and he's really omnipotent.

I think that God

is

the signifier

that is in the word God

is something ontological.

It's something that actually makes sense to people

without having to indulge in metaphysics.

They don't need...

And it's not this, like, magical thing

from, like, saying, oh, it's a unicorn somewhere magical thing from like saying

oh it's a unicorn somewhere or something

you know how new atheists argue

I don't think that's what it means in religions

I think God

to put it to say something very heretical

I think that

when Islam or Christianity

talks about God

and when Stalin and Marxism

talks about historical necessity

and the laws of history

they are more or less talking about the same thing

I say this is like a almost like They are more or less talking about the same thing.

I say this is almost like a revisionist viewpoint of all, like, religions.

Like, this is like heretical.

Yeah, for sure.

Listen, I respect the view.

It's very heretical. I agree.

It's very heretical

that's why I don't talk about religion a lot

because I would say

according to all

why you claim to be a Muslim

like you're a kaffir

but like why even claim to be

a Muslim?

Because I consider myself a Muslim because Islam makes sense to me on a very intuitive level.

You know, I'm a Muslim in my bones and my spirit.

It's I fight like a Muslim

I see the world

as a Muslim

yeah

you fight as a Muslim

though does

does not so he doesn't realize

it bro

I guess get the fuck out

I would say

I would say

I would say I would say

I am a Muslim but I'm alim but i'm a muslim who happens to disagree

probably with many clerical authorities within islam

can i ask you a question?

How is because you said it?

For me,

what I'll say to that.

I don't,

I don't completely dismiss them and say they're all full of shit and there's no wisdom or nothing there.

I just say that I think the modern world has corrupted all religions, frankly, in their established form.

I think modern capitalism and the emergence of the modern world has totally changed the matrix of meaning,

and it's made religion into something that has just...

Let me be frank with you, okay?

I'm going to say something that's very generalizing.

My phone is 1%.

So I'm probably going to have to rejoin.

Sure.

It's very generalizing, but I'm going to say it.

You know, Islam in particular,

you had these clerical

authorities and then the

French and the British came in

bribed them and the religion

suddenly meant something different

so

something happened in the world

in the world right in a way that Marxist historical materialism would describe, a new mode of production, a new logic of production, a new logic of life.

And this fundamentally altered the original meaning of all the world's major religions in a way and i

in a way and i agree with you but i disagree with what it altered to i say it was something that

altered into something that is basically

seen, basically

the original Islam, the original Christianity,

if someone was like a base Christian or

based Muslim, they'd be seen

as radicals. When before

the radical was normal.

Yes.

So we agree that.

No, I think actually I think about it.

Think about it.

I think the phenomenon.

Aboisa gets called an extremist.

I get called an extremist and it's like.

No, no, because guys, no, I think it's not true because there's a displacement of the meaning.

So the phenomena of fundamentalism is uniquely modern.

The passion of the modern reactionary who says, why don't we do things as in the past?

Why is it this new thing?

And they want to be extreme and like, you know,

like, like Daesh or something.

That is only modern.

Only in the modern world do we rage against the world in this way

at the expense of what things mean, we seek some kind of

absolute guarantee for the faithfulness of our actions and activity. That same guarantee that we

seek in the modern world is the same one that scientists seek with scientific certainty so it is a category of modern the modern search for certainty it has nothing to do with the pre-modern way of believing or way of living or way of seeing the world, which suspended fate into something else. There was no delusion before the modern world

that fate is something we could

directly control and be certain of.

Fate was something

suspended

in the hands of God.

But it wasn't

something, or it was the hands of God or the spirits or whatever

you want to call it, but it definitely wasn't something we had the conceit we could be

absolutely certain of. We could decide the outcome of. So fundamentalism, whether in a christian or islamic or jewish form in the modern world is basically trying to use religion as a way to be absolutely certain

of things that religion never, never, ever

claimed to be certain of in the past.

That's my opinion okay i mean i mean obviously you still here i think he's phone that yeah he disconnected

he'll join again um I mean, but what does

that have to do with

being called

an extremist, right? Because think about it. For example,

I don't think, I don't think it's an

I don't believe it's, there's such a thing

as religious extremism. I think there's such a thing as religious extremism i think there's

such a thing as modern nihilism that takes religious appearances so to be honest i'm not even

doing it as a dig the um the so-called america first catholic movement is a is a form of

um extreme social nihilism that is uniquely modern, which

takes a religious appearance. They invoke religion to be an absolute source of justification,

an absolute certainty of their correctness.

But this same absolute certainty also makes them feel like they have a leeway with, and I'm not lying about this, being degenerate.

The cat boy stuff is very real.

I seen Groyper's talk about their, they like femboys.

They do all this kind of stuff.

They, I mean, it's real.

The anime, the hentai porn, the pedophilia stuff. What did you mean?

Wouldn't you also say that's also going

within the communist movement as well, though?

No, no.

Let me explain.

Not at all.

I'll explain to all.

I'll be good faith and explain the distinction.

Hold on.

I'll explain the distinction.

Among leftists,

it's absolutely true that there's all sorts

of bizarre horrible

degenerate things going on among like

left liberals and stuff I agree

you know for sure

but the difference is

they don't even actually enjoy that shit.

They make it into a,

a kind of like,

a moral,

like they turn that into a religion

and it's like a ritual for them

and they're open about it.

And for them, it becomes a kind of inverted ethics, a dark ethics where they're like, it's moral to be immoral. It's like they turn it into a system and to an ideology. But what the extreme right does is that they search for religion as an absolute source of guarantee

for the correctness of their position which then gives them the leeway in the wiggle room and the

freedom to indulge in sin, even though they know they're sinning,

they say, well, it's okay that I'm sinning, because ultimately my position is still correct,

and I'm absolutely certain of that.

Okay.

When we have this false certainty

of the correctness of our position,

we forget that in order

to be correct,

we have to constantly be putting in work.

We have to establish...

Okay, but what did you say that?

Well,

what did you say that about the

first movement as well?

Like, you got to think about it.

There's always a bad.

Hold on.

Let me make a point.

Let me make my point.

For the fact of like, okay, well, the commies, right?

You guys have the left week commies, for example,

and T for the LGBT ones.

Doesn't that make the movement look bad?

That strips communism of its masculinity.

Yeah, but the difference is our movement doesn't have those people.

It just doesn't.

I mean, bro, come on.

You can't say it.

I'm being completely honest with you when I say that although our movement has people who might have come from those backgrounds, you know, in the 2010s or something, for sure we have people from leftist backgrounds.

The movement we've established right now is not made up of those kind of people.

As a matter of fact, those type of people hate us.

Okay, look, and I'm not even like trying to like come at you.

I'm trying to have an actual conversation.

Yeah, sure.

Okay, look.

So where did you say that's the same thing

for the people who are quote unquote America first

but they're actually homoes?

But it's the same thing for you guys.

He guys are calling themselves communist.

I'm not saying the issue even is that they're all closeted.

It's more like they are actively

indulging in evil and they don't recognize how much that is uh indictment on their entire movement

because they think their movement is ultimately correct because it's justified

by an absolute moral source of guarantee and absolute truth what do you think the guarantee is

they say it's catholicism so they say we are catholics we are christian therefore what is that

what is that?

What is that difference between, you know, the right wing call me's and these, in your words? Because when we say that we're communists, that demands action and it demands a relationship.

The relationship in question is the relation between our words and our actions.

Those things have to be square.

Okay, but why don't you say that's the same thing with the America First Movement?

No, no.

All they have to do is identify with the Catholic

label and they feel like they can get away

with anything. But I, you see,

with me, I don't agree with that.

The same way you don't agree with

within your movement, you know, the

Fifa members

me and you can come

I try it

I know what

I get that

but I'm talking about

the overwhelming

tendency of the

Groyper movement

whereas there is

almost no tendency

within my movement

that's like the

antifa. Oh, come on.

So, be honest, right?

We don't. I mean, I don't know if you

you've been under a rock, but like those people

fucking hate us. It's just the truth.

They hate, like,

your version of it,

but they still fly your flags around

and promote it.

You know what I mean?

Like, come on.

Not really.

Honestly, no.

The truth is they don't

because

they hate Stalinism, quote, unquote. they don't like the Soviet Union they don't

don't you don't you use them no what do we use them for they've threatened us I mean they

I'm just being honest with you those people don't like us, I'm just picking your brain upon your ideology of it.

So, okay.

And I forgive them, by the way.

I don't even hate them.

I'm just telling you that, you know, I think that there is something very wrong about in the modern world the way religions are used

to make people get away with anything without any consequences Can one of your mods drag up

Abuisa please? Yeah thank you

Um yeah no I understand

I understand it right because think about it

Right

You know the whole Play-Doh

I know you don't like Plato but you don't want Plato said

Oh there's there's the dog

but people are too focused upon the puppet

that is the fake dog

that is and there's they're focused on the shadow

right that's what people use with religion right

with these movements what they do is then think about it's

even in islam it's even in with christianity or catholicism there's people like this who

they say it's oh look it's a dog when it's really not the dog it's the shadow and people are so

focused upon the shadow it's not the real thing it's the dog it's the shadow and people were so focused upon the shadow

it's not the real thing

it's the bluff it's the fake

yeah

right

so I'm getting guys I understand

your perspective on it but how do you

has how do you go to sleep like

so do you take the atheist like so do you take the atheist

perspective or do you take the oh I'm a Muslim

like I think you want I think you want

I say look when I also say I'm a Muslim there's also an element of blind

faith that I don't justify

like I say prayers and I

I mean who knows if it's if it if it if it will work or not

but that's how it's something absolute it's something beyond justification and i feel like

from what i read about history that's always what it's been it's never been this like

this type of it's never been a type of knowledge that we

claim to be absolutely certain

of in the way that scientists claim.

It's always been something.

Okay, I understand you, But it doesn't bother you,

Haas that it's like,

you're half doing it.

Like,

come on.

Like,

when you pray,

you don't feel a bit of guiltiness.

They're like,

oh,

my God.

Like,

I want to be,

I want to be Muslim,

but it's like,

I just don't trust it.

Like, and I know you explained why, but is there that feeling within you that it's like, because I was like that for years. I was like that for years, right? Well, and then I was, I would say, I would say to be totally frank with you, um, I don't have any guilt at all

religious guilt I mean zero percent

okay

I am so

I have so much

faith and belief

in

in the revolutionary cause let's just call it that, because I would even say that even before I would just say Marxism, communism, sure, but ultimately what I'm talking about is the revolutionary cause, the thing that makes the world turn, right?

To me, that is what is fundamentally at stake as a living human being.

Okay.

And that to me

is absolute.

And that's my reality.

That's what's real to me. What's real to me is

the revolution.

Okay. I wanted to ask you

because you had mentioned it earlier, but

I kind of got off. Yeah, I had a question as well because my phone died.

He was going somewhere. I was, I want to ask you what's your, so when people

Ida worship somebody, right? Within your Islamic perspective, how do you feel about that?

See, that's, that's, um,

I'm against the, well, this is why I think for me, the revolution being the

absolute is also in a way in line with the the

the uh you know

Abrahamic or monotheistic tradition because

the whole reason

idolatry is so

bad is because it's trying

to freeze

creation which is in motion to me idolatry is what gets in the way of the

completion of the revolution and revolution just means for being or for creation to be what it is.

But for it to be what it is, it has to come full circle.

It has to become what it is, right?

And an idol cannot encompass that.

An idol cannot

cannot,

cannot, encompass that. An idol cannot cannot be that.

Because an idol is one thing. It's one form.

It's one appearance.

Whereas everything is suspended in motion.

Okay.

And would you say that,

and I'm not jabbing you,

I'm just laying out the question.

Do you believe that there's a bunch of commies

who worship Mark,

like they idolize him.

Yeah.

Well.

How do you feel about that?

Um, it depends.

You know, Marx, I think,

Marx is an important figure to me because he discovered, in my,

in my understanding, the key to having knowledge of the modern world and the key to understanding history and and the law is guiding

how history moves how do how do things change speaking from the perspective of like societies

and

you know

cultures and civilizations

and I think

Marx,

if you think about him in this way

he's basically like a bridge that allows you to reinterpret everything that has come from the past.

And, you know, his importance stems from his ability to discover that in the modern world

there's both a type of knowledge we lost that we've become alienated from and there's a new type of knowledge we've acquired and people idolize marks in the way that you're talking about even without fully being able to understand him because they see him as a guide to navigating a modern world, which just nothing else can make sense of.

Yeah.

I agree with you upon that.

But okay, so you say that.

But when we go into the conversation of communism, right?

When you say it like that, why not just go, because earlier you said that communism stems from, you know, the Quran or it stems from the Bible.

You says it stems from like Jesus or Muhammad, right?

And I disagree with that.

But why won't you, for example, be pro-Sheria or, you know, pro-Cath.

I'm not necessarily, I think, okay, let me explain what I think communism is first, and then I'll explain what I think about Sharia or the Catholic Church or other kind of religious traditions.

So to me, communism was not invented by Marx. I mean, it wasn't.

He said it wasn't.

The word was used before Marx.

But to me, communism is the force within human societies that is responsible for their tendency to change and it's also the objective reality of human societies and that reality can actually drive changes and exert influences on people without them knowing.

So to me, communism is first of all a force and a reality.

And the reason I think Jesus and Muhammad and all the prophets were communists in a sense was because they were communicating to people something about their reality, not just an otherworldly reality, but the reality they were living in.

Yeah. and otherworldly reality, but the reality they were living in that allowed them to, in, in some form,

comprehend it faithfully and authentically.

And this came in the form of, for some prophets, laws, right?

Laws that actually reflect, you know, justice in response to what is happening.

And in the case of Jesus, if not necessarily law,

I know Islam interprets Sharia is ubiquitously communicated by all the prophets,

but in Christianity, Jesus didn't necessarily bring a set of laws, but he did bring a radical exposure of the reality. He exposed the truth of what is going on, right? When Jesus died on the cross within Christianity,

that was, in a way, a message that was like he exposed the whole system he exposed um the entire truth

you know of of what kind of existence human beings had and we're living in. And so there's shining light on the nature of the society that human beings have created

and giving people the ability to articulate

injustices that were going on that they knew about

but they were ignoring because of habit or out of cowardice

or something like that.

But revelation, to me, when I see history history it always has its focus and its object what are people

doing and how is this does this faithfully reflect a, you know, a true or authentic or just existence, you know, like, are people

exploiting each other and abusing each other? Are people committing acts of depravity upon one and another?

Is society degenerating, you know, are people engaging in debauchery into antisocial, destructive

behaviors and so on and so on? It seems like the message of religion is always, like if you look at the

linchpin, like for example, the first sermon of Jesus was about announcing the restoration of

the Jubilee year. We have to wipe all the debts, right? And then the last sermon of the prophet

Muhammad, a lot of it is just, he's including in his last sermon, we need to get rid of

usury. We have to get rid of, we need to forgive debts. we need to forgive people's debts

we need to be merciful he's talking

about the zakat we take care of the poor

among you take care of the sick

take care of the elderly

and that we agree with that we this is

yeah a lot of things in communism are

very almost not everything but surreal like

there's certain principles i think the point of the religions was not

to simply force people to just have a view about reality just because it's true.

Like true in some abstract philosophical sense.

How could you prove that?

Well, I think it's the difference between philosophy and religion.

Philosophy is about proving if an idea is true

by the standard and measurement of ideas. I don't think the prophets were concerned with that.

I think they were concerned with the world they were living in

and the language they were using

was an articulation of that world.

And would you say the text

support that? Or would you say the text support that?

Or would you say that...

I think the text take it for granted.

I don't think they...

They neither, like...

They neither affirm this or deny it.

I just think they didn't even question it.

I think only with the modern world do we question such things, and why?

Because the modern world gives us a false sense of certainty about reality.

We think we can know everything about reality in a way that we're absolutely certain of if we measure it, if we measure the relationship between mathematical abstractions and empirical observations and so on and so on.

And it's like that type of certainty

I don't think is in religion.

But after the modern world

introduces this type of certainty,

which is also a practical

certainty to be fair.

Like, for example,

the engineers who make your

fucking airplane

have to know their shit

with the degree of absolute certainty because otherwise

you know the plane can't fly and everyone dies so that's practical like that's something that's

proven in practice right so that causes confusion in religion, which says, like, okay, so, you know,

what is the point of the religious message? Well, it's to communicate that this reality is

absolutely true in a way that's similar, like in the same way that we're certain of the correct engineering

of an airplane, we're absolutely certain that this is the correct message because of some

extraneous empirical or in the case of philosophy, like, extraneous, empirical,

or in the case of philosophy,

you know, logical syllogism or something, right?

But I think

this is imposing abstractions on religions

that just weren't there.

Yeah, I think there's a difference between

in philosophy, really, because I'm like a textual,

you could say textual, textual realist you know anti

more so like

anti

I'm more so anti

rationalist

and like

in the metaphysics

of certain things

so this really just

I'll say

if in the Quran

which I don't think it says this but but let's say the Quran, it says like, you know, if a woman is sleeping around stone her, right? Does it say that or no?

Yeah.

And the Quran itself, no, it doesn't, but does Haditha say this? Yeah.

So, you know, these kind of things,

to see that practice...

In the Quran, it does say the hand, the hand cut off, yeah.

That is in the...

Something cutting off hands, whatever, like,

when it,

when it says these things and you look at today,

so well,

this is the absolute word of God,

so let's start chopping the hands off.

Yes,

I agree with that

yeah that's

I can tell

but I really disagree

with that

because

because you're

abstracting it

from the meaningfulness

it used to mean

something different

so does it so if it means something but then it doesn't mean anything now It used to mean something different.

So if it means something then, it doesn't mean anything now? It meant something to chop someone's hand off today means something very different than what it used to mean.

This is right here, what you're claiming is.

In the past,

in the past,

we're talking about an extremely

brutal, violent world

where such extreme acts of violence

were pretty ubiquitous,

pretty normalized, and pretty common, right? That Islam did not bring that. It didn't introduce that.

Of course, of course. All it did is articulate a specific meaningfulness out of that. I think that there's a wisdom to that meaningfulness that can be applied today but to directly just be

like okay let's just start chopping people's hands off uh you're displacing the meaning

because now that would be an extreme act of depravity whereas in the time

of the profit it wasn't

I would

disagree with that because

first of all you said

damn dude I forget

but you said first you said

well you did you were right there Islam did come there

there certainly for example like forcible marriages were going on and Islam said hey you

can't date it kind of was in the between of two extremes you can't date but you can't

force forcefully marry Obviously there's still

forceful marriages which is wrong going on now.

So you're right on that part.

Like Islam did come and certain

of these things were

in place. So you're right on that point

but what I disagree with

is where you say they didn't mean that how this back event.

Maybe you could say this about other religions, and you were speaking about it earlier before my phone died,

that the fundamentalism is a modern thing.

Maybe you could say that about other religions, but with Islam, it's kind of hard to make that claim.

Because you have tons, like if you, if I were to bring one of the earliest scholars of Islam, one of the earliest, the earliest interpretation, even to like, even if even if I should listen a lot of Muslims hate me for this but if even if I bring up the earliest interpretation for 929 like fight the disbelievers until there's no more fitna. A lot of the earliest scholars

would be seen as extreme.

And most of people back then,

if I bring like 10,000 Muslims back then,

bring them now,

they'd be seen as extreme.

No, that's true.

But they were living in a different time

where these things meant something different.

And now my question today is, is the Quran for all time or just now?

But the Quran, I don't think at its essence, is about prescribing laws in such a direct way.

I disagree with the directness of...

At the time, maybe you could make a direct leap in interpretation,

because it made sense.

But once we advance historically,

we have to make an effort to interpret the Quran according to new historical developments.

I would say that's changing.

And I think that to me, the brilliance of the Quran, if I'm being honest, why I say I'm a Muslim.

Because I don't have to say that. I could say I'm a Christian or something else. I think Islam is the most profound religion to me.

Because I think that within the Quran itself, the logic of being able to adapt

an essence to a completely novel, let's say, configuration of appearances is there. So the ability to adapt the Quran to a new stage of history or something, already the logic of that is in the Quran itself, in the very way in which meaningfulness is communicated.

So that's what convinces me about. The Quran is a book about the signifier to me.

It's a book about the brilliance of meaning itself.

And it's like to that extent,

I'm a Muslim, but if we're talking about just

like taking the direct practices

that existed back then and saying

you wouldn't yet. and saying you wouldn't

yeah

well you wouldn't

you wouldn't say that

that you know

for example

having this

belief to go with

historically

historically accurate

to be historically accurate

to do this

would be changing

God's law

would be idolatry

in itself

because

if you don't look at

like I'm going to bring this

even if you look at

why did the

Jews for example

why were they? Why do

why do the prophets say they fall their

rabbis and their monks instead

of the book of God? Because the rabbis

and monks started going with historical

accuracy. So I think we just have

I think that's a beauty of it though. There's a

beauty to this conversation where we could disagree on this.

I think that to me, the spirit of the religion is living.

Yeah.

And it's in the future.

Like, you don't need to hinge upon the forms of the past.

The truth of the Quran

is suspended and eternally

being confirmed

and and

in a way revealed to us

with the advance of history itself

and the Quran...

What you say if you don't keep those old-fashioned...

That's that. We're going to keep going to circles.

That has, we just...

See, to me, the Quran is something which...

Has a miraculous ability, even even to hold true for all time.

But there's a brilliance to how it does that,

which I think very much demands readings that are beyond

skin deep, beyond the surface level.

That's just how I see it. I mean, look,

I don't have to be a Muslim. I don't have to call myself Muslim. I don't have to

say that I think there's profound truths in these religions. I don't. to call myself Muslim. I don't have to say that I think there's profound truths in these religions.

I don't.

I'm a communist after all, right?

But, you know, I see Islam and I see the Quran as a religion for people, you know, in a desert.

I see them.

It's a religion that, in a desert i see them it's it's a religion that in a sense is

is speaking to a position of absolute existential abandon and despair which doesn't have the voice

of some you know bearded scholar yelling at you it doesn't have the voice of some, you know, bearded scholar yelling at you.

It doesn't have the voice of other Muslims.

It doesn't have the voice of holier than thou people.

It's like...

Of me yelling at people saying your kaffir, yeah.

Yeah, it doesn't have people

calling you a CAFR.

It has you alone

and

with nothing

and has nothing.

It does,

it does somewhat.

It does have that,

the crown.

But yeah,

I get what you're meaning. I get what you mean by that, though, yeah.

Yeah, it's like, it's, that's all,

that's where it's really at stake. I mean, you don't have to believe it.

You don't have to, uh, you don't have to be a, uh,

good religious person. But when you find yourself in this situation

of a total desert

of meaningfulness and a total state of

abandon, for some reason

the Quran to me

has an ability to actually speak to

you. It has an ability

to be meaningful.

And that's...

You wouldn't say it's...

Because I'm not Muslim, but you wouldn't say that it's not meaningful at all times.

Like right now, at the moment, what you're doing, you're talking to a Catholic, you're

talking to another Muslim, you're in this one, talking to a Catholic. You're talking to another Muslim.

You're in this one. You wouldn't say that's

not meaningful. You wouldn't say it

had not translated till now.

What do you mean?

For example,

I feel like you're only like

wrapping it up within this desert.

I think it's

happening right now.

The way I interpret

the religion is that it commands you

to

have a certain level of obligation to the world that you live in.

And that obligation involves, you know, hey, I am a communist. That's how I interpret it. I mean mean but it makes sense to me it's like the obligation is

that you need you need to fight for humanity you have to fight for your fellow man in the world

that you're living in and the religion is a guide to do that. And it's an ancient

type of wisdom that reminds you of that possibility and how others have done it before,

you know, and it's like a, it's, you know, one of the, the, the, the, I've related to different

chapters and verses, I like the story of the people in the cave, you know, I liked Alcoff a lot.

Yeah.

So, what would you do, though, that? what would you do though

what would you do has

let's just say hypothetical

because we obviously

this is this is the disagreement

I want to keep going circles

what would you do if

let's say my fundamentalist

crazy

by extreme interpretation

is actually the right interpretation

of the religion

I always say this

I would I

happily accept my fate

if I'm condemned to hell

I accept my fate

frankly

like to me

why why

okay my god because there's a certain type of belief let's say there's a certain

certain type of faith and belief that i have in what i'm doing and

but if a contract dates god why would you care about that like is wouldn't wouldn't you say

that's following your desires or falling no well that's pride that's pride i don't think so i'll

tell you why i think that i think that the world or existence or being would be profoundly comical if I was going to burn in hell and I was going to be punished by God and what I was doing is completely without God's approval. But all I can be is responsible not only for what I'm in, for what I'm in, but for the situation that I'm in. Like, for example, there's certain things that I know. I know, for example, that we are being robbed, you know, frankly, like the American people are being robbed and screwed over.

It's just a fact. I know that there are a lot of bad evil people getting away with a lot of bad evil shit.

I know, for example, that workers are constantly having everything taken away from them, all their benefits, all their rights, all their dignity.

I can see these things that are happening.

And I have to make a choice.

You know, who do I side with?

Do I side with the exploited or I side with the exploiters?

And it's, and I see, I witness a revolution on the horizon. Do I stand with the forces of

revolution or do I try to deny the reality that's unfolding before me?

Do I embrace this revolution or do I deny the reality that's right in front of me?

I mean, if I see someone on the street, you know, down, they need a hand to be

brought up,

I go and I

lend them a hand without thinking.

And if that's going to put me in hell and I'm going to burn in hell

and the absolute being and

reality of all of this disapproves of that, I think it's a funny reality we live in, but

all I can know for the same reason that you find Islam compelling, for the same reason, maybe,

maybe a different reason, but like the only way you know is in this world and through this world that's the only way you can know anything none of us have an ability to be absolutely certain of anything that exists otherworldly so So if you find Islam compelling

in the way that you interpret it,

I think there's a materialist

reason why, and that's why I'm a

materialist.

I don't think there's a way

to avoid that, though. Like, there's no way

to avoid a certain... Let me put it this way. There's a way to avoid that though like there's no way to avoid a certain let me put it this way

there's a certain type of knowledge that we have in this world that actually predominates

the knowledge we claim to have

of the otherworldly.

Like, for example, and let's just say this is a hypothetical.

Let's say I'm wrong, but like I'm,

I'm not accusing you of anything, but I'm saying like,

the structure of the logic I'm trying to get at.

Like,

yeah.

You first had to have a certain type of,

so there's something about fundamentalist Islam that had to be compelling to you in the way that you make sense of your existence in this world

before you accepted fundamentalist Islam itself. It's not on account of the being a fundamentalist Islam that you are a fundamentalist Muslim. It isn't as though you are merely an attribute of this specific interpretation of Islam in your existence and in your being.

There is something proper to your existence that allowed that interpretation of Islam to be compelling to you.

Maybe something thatistic you're saying.

Not necessarily in a vulgar sense, like, you know, your desire for goods or your desire to be satisfied in something, you know, directly an object of consumption. But definitely a certain way of making sense of your existence and your place in the world that you live in. And that is an existence that is defined

by your interactions with other human

beings

and your place within society

and that is a materially real thing

is that even real belief then

like

you're so like accusing was is that even real

belief to you or like well someone have real belief through materialism to you they they can have

belief but the problem is the causes of that belief are not based on some kind of tautological truth of the religion itself but based on a certain truthfulness of the existence therein.

Yeah.

But certain things that cause, I mean, no doubt.

I mean, yeah, there's, uh,

and even it is not me,

I guess,

maybe,

I'm going,

I mean,

circular reasoning here

but there

is, you know, obviously reasons

why and what we say, like every

religion probably says that

God is the reason. The God put

us in this, like God knows that this is going to

happen. Because obviously we believe free will, like, God knows that this is going to happen.

Because obviously, we believe free will, but we also believe that Allah knows the future.

So, and that he's written down everything.

At the same time, we have free will.

But, uh, that's probably, it links back to God, almost example kind of in a way but then that's just religion for you well I would not even be opposed to saying it's God but what is God I think God is something if we are

does Islam believe we are made in the image of God or no no from my knowledge no no.

Not from my knowledge, no.

Yeah.

Christianity.

Actually, I don't want to say anything.

I don't want to get, I don't want to.

I think I've seen... I think...

Let me call up.

One second.

Let me call up one second let me call up give me one second

call up

I'm

I had it saved the other day

because I know with the answer

I just don't want to say it wrong

because this could

I could fall into a heresy here

so that's the only reason

I'm not trying to say anything

Well in any way

But my point

Look look

There's a certain...

Concept in the history of Islamic thinking.

It's called...

I think it's called Al-Insan al-Kameel.

Have you heard of this?

And...

It's Islamic equivalent of logos.

So there's a saying by the prophet attributed to him, I think apocryph whatever, but it's, I was there in between when Adam was created and when he was clay.

And if all the

the causes and the reasons that lead people

to embrace

Islam or specific interpretations

of Islam

come from God

we say we're creating on the image of Allah.

We are, yeah.

Yeah.

So...

Not in the image of Adam.

A lot of people, a lot of muscles make this mistake.

So, well, that's even better to my argument.

If we're created in the image of God, then that's even better to my argument if we're created in the image of

God then that

image is not an individual

it's our collective

existence

as a people

you know

as humanity

and it's the configurations you know, as humanity.

And it's the configurations within that collective existence,

the relations, let's say, within that existence,

that allow the light of God or the will of God, let's say, or not allow, but facilitate the exertion of God's will upon us.

And that, to to me is a social

logic, and that to me is

the materialist view

within Marxism.

Maheshallah.

What the fuck God

there's two things

I wanted to say

because I forgot to tell you this

and I'll go back to this

what you just said

I just wanted you to answer

Is this real belief to say that

if it's so be if if this

is the truth and God

Allah said Allah is

this fundamental you know Allah

the Quran is just fundamental book and I'm going

against that I'm just going to go to hell so be it

is this really belief I'll tell you yeah I think book and I'm going against it. I'm just going to go to hell, so be it.

Is this really belief? I'll tell you, yeah, I think so, and I'll tell you why.

So one of the things that I was always fascinated by as a communist who had no religious

interest in being a religious person at all for a decent part of my life.

I was interested in the paradox of how do you believe in communism?

The causes of what lead people to be communist are not communist

causes so why people become communists are usually for reasons that are not directly

accounted for by a communist ideology. So, like, for example,

um, you know, let's say you accidentally,

a lot of the, for a lot of people with socialization, so people might be lonely, this wasn't me, by the way, but a lot of people might be lonely and they're just lonely. Like the cause is that they're just lonely people, right? So they make friends or they make a friend group or something or they join a club or something. And, you know, that's how they get introduced into communism.

It comes from some kind of cause that isn't accounted for by the ideology itself.

It doesn't say, like, well, I became a communist because communism is true.

Well, it's like, no, that's not why you became a communist.

You became a communist for reasons that are not accountable, accounted for by the system of thought or thinking we associate with communist ideology, right?

I can agree with that, yeah.

This is a very profound paradox.

It's true for all systems of belief.

Now, where I think faith is meaningful is that when we can say that there's a harmony between the premises of our position and the conclusion that position amounts to.

Even though the conclusion and the premise are not identical, they comprise one and share one reality, one rational interrelated structure of existence.

So, for example

the conclusion of what again

well

I'll explain so

the reasons for example

you become a communist

seem totally unrelated to communism

right

but after the fact you discover seem totally unrelated to communism, right?

But after the fact you discover that they were all along related,

just not in a way that is ideological,

in a way that is real, like a way that that makes communism true, like, for example.

I can agree with the same.

So I think it's true for religion as well.

I think it's true for Islam as well. Like, there has to be a rational interconnection

between the causes of the

belief

and the

content of the belief

itself. And that

rational interconnection is

when an indirect relationship

is exposed as

having a deeper rational connection.

And that is the essence of, by the way, the dialectical method.

When you discover the deeper rational interrelations that underlie

apparently separate things you know separate apparent phenomenon so

when you can get that moment

and kind of I guess

reconcile your conclusions with your premises

your real material conclusions with your premises, your real material premises, with your...

That's real belief.

Ideal conclusions or whatever.

That was the whole point of Marx, by the way.

I mean, Marx was dealing with the paradox of Hegel's system, which could not account for its own premises, right?

So he said the real premises of this system of thinking and every system of thinking for that matter are real material premises. They're not premises created by the system itself.

And so, you know, this is why Marx was compelled by materialism. But when we can say that many people are cynical and they'll say, well, that proves there's no possibility of belief. There's no possibility of a true faithfulness to an idea because, well, the real cause is always something worldly.

The real cause is always something banal.

But actually, the real cause may not be the same thing, but it is indirectly um

it is

indirectly

uh

connected

rationally

with you with an ideal

or a belief or something

or an article of faith

so faith is

basically the

to me faith is like

I can't know this

with certainty necessarily.

But I believe

that the outcome

of

disbelief or my journey or my struggle or whatever you want to call it is going to be compatible with its causes is going to rationally justify and be harmonious with its causes like at the conclusion of it all. Okay.

So my question to you is,

is look,

what communism,

that's not like,

what communism you have to be based upon,

upon your beliefs,

right?

Okay.

So what you're saying is you're fine with being a heretic

within your own religion and not being based within those beliefs. So you're fine with being a heretic within your own religion and

not being based within those beliefs.

So you're, what you're doing

is you're making communism, your

religion overlapping it, and you're

sitting here and talking to us.

And I'm not trying to come at you. This is my

perspective on it.

I just feel like you're having a

self-conflict

within you where it's like common.

Yeah, that's,

that's,

that's,

I mean,

there's no,

there's definitely,

there's definitely,

there's no conflict

because I don't need religion technically for those reasons.

Like, I don't mind going outside the bounds of the faith that I was raised with in terms of my beliefs because for a long time I was just an atheist.

You know, I have no issue.

I'm not scared of being a heretic or being a disbeliever or something.

So that's not an issue for me at all.

But, you know, I think I have made

a kind of discovery

when it comes to religion.

Your belief that it's probable.

Believe what?

Your conclusion

to what you said is just

what you believe in

not really, you have a different, you define belief to be

something different than what the Abrahamic

belief. No, I think it's absolutely

the same. It's absolutely the same.

It's absolutely the same.

By the way, that's the whole reason why forgiveness of debt is so important in the religions.

The debt represents the contradiction between the premises of our existence and the conclusions of our activity.

We accumulate debt because the two are not harmoniously interrelated.

By forgiving debt and forgiving us of our, you know, our accumulated incongruity, we're basically affirming that the conclusions of our activity

cannot

directly be the same

as our premises, cannot shape our

premises, you know?

In fact, they contradict our premises.

So,

I think that belief

has always been...

This is why I think I'm an interesting Marxist

in a way, because...

I think... I never talked to...

I think, yeah, because I'm a Marxist to, there's also, there's interesting Marxists who explore this as well, but I do it in a way where I speak with my chest, I guess.

I think that the dimension of belief is not foreign to materialism.

I think there's more to faith in belief than just, you know, belief in some kind of supernatural, you know, arbitrary thing.

I mean, that's not belief. Obviously, yeah. Belief is... supernatural arbitrary thing.

I mean,

that's not belief.

Belief is about a kind of relationship

to something that doesn't

apparently exist

but which

exists

processually in the relationship

between essences and appearances.

I see that as almost,

maybe I misunderstanding you.

I see that it's almost like flipping a coin

and saying this is what

belief is, but here's

my

interpretation of belief to believe something

well, the Islamic

fun, you could, well I view

is real Islamic, but you'll say fundamental.

Belief is something, for example, if I see, let's say God right now, Al-Dubla, this wouldn't happen.

He says, go kill Knox, go, go, Go kill Nick Fentis.

Okay?

What the wrong with this guy?

And if I don't, if I, if I, if I interpret that a different way, if I don't do X, because God said X,

but the problem, the problem is, I'm not, I'm not saying I want to do that to Nick Fenton.

How do you know what God says and what he wants?

And because you just gave it away to me because that's not belief.

Because for you to see God means he has become an empirical object, which you are absolutely certain of.

I didn't say I see God. No, I didn't say

or he speaks to you.

No, no, revelation.

You witness an extraordinary

phenomena that you are

absolutely certain of according to

your senses. But you want

to know something funny? Even

the prophet of Islam was not

certain of his senses. When the

angel Gabriel came to him,

he had nothing

but doubt about what he was seeing. He didn't have

certainty. He didn't have certainty.

He didn't say, oh, I know this is what God wants.

Absolutely not.

He had nothing but doubt.

He thought he was insane.

He thought he was crazy. He was thinking and contemplating of committing suicide because of how crazy he thought he was and how others thought.

Yeah, but then what happened? What happened? What happened was a process where he had to draw out

the meaning of the revelation. He had to actually, in a slow, patient, methodical way understand.

And it's this process of understanding that

I would...

Faith is

something that guides activity.

Faith is not something

you just have because you know. You don't. You can't be absolutely

certain. I think you didn't do justice to my example. Because the prophet, right, this was something

completely shocking, utterly shocking. My example, I may i explain my example more well if if god came to you

of course it would be shocking yes it'd be very well not came like in front of me all the blah i didn't say

that but obviously if God somehow

communicated with you,

it would absolutely

sense,

yes.

It would destroy,

it would be shocking in the beginning.

It would destroy your ability

to be certain of anything.

But he didn't,

he didn't have any commands

in the beginning until,

the only command he had

my point is

God giving you

command

that God gave

God

God have commanded

the prophet

when the prophet

could not know

in any way

that was God

exactly

that's why

later on

me knowing

that's why

I said my example me knowing that's why I said my example

me knowing that this is God

and I'm going ahead and saying

you should pay attention to what it takes

to know that it's God revealing

yes yes of course

and I'm not disagree

my argument is decisive

but I disagree think my argument is decisive. But I disagree.

Because my argument was right, right, that I know this is from God.

You know the Quran is from God.

Okay?

And this is what I, this is my, this is my belief of belief.

This is my, no, definition of belief. And I'm going ahead. And I'm going ahead. And the sense of belief. This is my definition of belief.

You're treating this not as a belief

and I'm going ahead.

In the sense of faith.

You're treating it as a

knowledge

in the sense of certainty.

Very different things.

Yes.

Yes.

You kind of

you kind of almost near the doubt on that.

So I say, why my definition of belief is someone obviously says,

law, Allah, right? No God but Allah, right? And believes in all the messengers, all this stuff.

But then he has has in his heart

but he also has it out of

his action because the heart is the reflection

off the actions so he must

have this off his actions as well

and and and

the action of him saying just like the

Jews who

who covered the verse

and changed the verse, and that's why they, just

because they didn't rule by a certain, I don't know

you can bring that, that's a certain story, there's no point

to that, but the action

God says X to me.

I do, I, and God says X to me. I do I and God says X to do Y.

And I say God X, right?

I instead of doing Y, I do Z.

This is disbelief.

Yeah, but I think the, what is at stake to me is how can you know what God is commanding?

I think you over, you take that for granted a little too much.

To me, that's where everything is.

The final thing I'll say, and then we've got to wrap this

up because it's been four hours.

Yeah. Yeah. Final thing I'll say, though.

Yeah, yeah. Final thing I'll say, though,

is that one of the other reasons

I'm a religious

or I'm not guilt, I have no religious

guilt. I'll actually tell you.

I think religions have been simplified, radically simplified, so that they could be, so that they could be taught to the masses.

And how do I know this? Because I know that's what happened to Marxism.

Are you kidding? How difficult it was to teach Marxism to Russian peasants and Chinese peasants?

Yeah, yeah.

Marxism and Leninism. Much of Marxism and Marxism and Marxism and Leninism became slogans.

It became simplified.

Even in the cultural revolution in China, this is a reflection of that.

I mean, that's not an easy thing to do. If you have a very kind of difficult activity of the individual to discover something and then to communicate that to the masses, to make it digestible to them, to allow them to understand it, is very difficult.

Do you think simplification is a good thing?

No, no, yes. It's part of the whole dynamic.

I think it's a good thing, yeah.

But I don't, I believe it's a process. And I think it's a good thing, yeah. But I don't, I believe it's a process.

And I think that, you know what I think?

I think that Marxism, three, four, five, one thousand years from now, a few centuries,

one thousand years from now, if you just took all the stories of the great Marxist revolutionaries, if you just took all the slogans and all the beliefs and rituals of communist parties, one day that might be turned into a religion.

And they'll say, say okay there was something supernatural

and you must you must you must people who are religion anyways you must visit uh mouse mausoleum

and bow five times and this will give you and it's like but they're missing the point the

whole point was there is something meaningful about this.

You don't just do the ritual just because, you know,

Mark said so.

You do for intention.

There's intention and there's meaningfulness.

And that's how I see religions.

That is, like, yeah, that is for the intention.

Like, everything you do, or at least in Islam, even before I drink water.

Islam to me is like, it was Marxism 1400 years ago.

And it's just that far away

and to me

Christianity

was Marxism

2000 years ago

you know

and Judaism

was Marxism

you know

let's say

for

dude that's so

freaking disrespectful but I'm telling you but I'm telling you how you know, let's say for... Dude, that's so freaking

disrespectful.

But I'm telling you

how I see...

Yeah, that's how you see it.

Look, look, look,

that's a whole different...

Yeah.

I mean, okay.

Like,

it's just...

It's been so much time

that the meaning got lost. But at at the time that's what it was

it's like a modernistic that's why i say i think communism is almost a modernistic people we're

going to go keep going to circle it absolutely is this circle. I think it's a modernistic.

I say it's a modernistic product.

It is absolutely.

But you know what modern means?

Modern means nowness.

And to seize the now, to know the now, to be at the now.

The present, yes.

But let me tell you something.

Human beings have a tendency

to forget. They're forgetful

beings. We're not

God. We forget. We forget.

We lose our way.

And so the task of

remembering means it means that in the now with every

fleeting moment in second we have to seize that and know we have to keep track of ourselves here

and now and i can relate to that I can relate to that in a sense

how we say the same thing

about the Jews and Christians

like forgetting.

But we say they forget

in a sense.

We say we're not bringing anything new.

We just say we're going back to the original.

We have to catch ourselves

in the moment to understand the whole truth of all world history.

We have to catch ourselves now in the moment. And that's modernistic. I agree. See, I speak bad about modernity a lot, but it's not necessarily about saying

it's bad, it's just how modernity has

caused confusion

and made us

misinterpret things because of

this new challenge

for humanity. But

I guess we're going to have to wrap

it up there. Yeah, 100%.

Well, it's going to be a lot more, has

on your

thingy. I didn't know you did this. I did this. I might have to

implement your platform in Syria.

Jolani. Jolani. Jolani. I'll take it this right now. Jol at your platform in Syria.

Jolani, Jolani, Jalani, I'll say this right now. Jolani is a Khaf al-Mushvik.

Okay.

All right, guys, we'll have to

wrap it up. See you guys later.

He's the enemy of Allah.

Okay.

So that was that. so so guys that's the power of infrared you just have the power of infrared.

You just have such heated fighting and then you can just have normal discussions.

Jumbo, what's up?

What's up, Jumbo, appreciate you.

Middle age, what's going on? The President so guys uh So guys, I'm actually, yo, Carlos with the 10.

Appreciate you, bro.

Thank you so much, bro.

Appreciate you.

Yeah, guys, I'm gonna

wrap up.

This stream was not planned for, okay?

Absolutely not planned for.

Like, I just...

He came on VC

and we just... We just went at

it. And then

you know, he brought on

other people... This was like early days of infrared

honesty. This was like how shit happened.

Like so many people

in the infrared community started out this way.

I'm not even kidding.

Sye, what's up with the five?

This is like 2021 shit.

Not 23.

You guys, don't gift any more

subs because I'm straight up ending it

so I'm ending the stream

you'll make me feel bad

all right y'all see y'all see you all later goodbye see you guys tuesday bye