China-bashing Leftist almost CRIES

but all right okay what do you have to

say about China let's hear it

uh China's probably doing genocide

um okay let's see anything else uh

that's really the the biggest criticism

I have of them

so prove China is doing a genocide go

ahead

um well there seems to be a plethora of

data that even China admits to in their

state media uh things that they're doing

that are negative towards the uyghurs or

the uyghur uh uh ethnic minority so okay

is that the same thing as genocide

um would you call the the boarding

schools that we put indigenous children

into in the U.S and in Canada a ethnic

genocide

history context yes

yeah and so I would say that it's pretty

similar what they're doing over there

where they're saying you know

not allowed to use your language you

have to learn this language and if

you're caught using it afterwards you

get in trouble oh so you're you're

saying you have proof that the uyghur

language is banned that's interesting

that's news to me bring it to my

attention go ahead what's the evidence

well they talk about it in the Chinese

State media oh show me show me

I mean

go grab myself some links

thank you

he's getting the links guys don't worry

oh recording everything

yeah so

let's see let me see if this is too

Anglo of a source for you no please just

link it to me and I'll just review it

and see where their primary primary

sources is I want to see what their

methodology is on their own terms

I'm sure I don't have like a fucking

Pace bit of links to throw at you so I'm

also checking out which ones are

legitimate basically

well yeah I didn't know pretty much

you're shooting the arrow and trying to

find the target basically

well making an accusation and trying to

find evidence to back it up so it sounds

like you were uninformed when you were

making that accusation

well I could say all sorts of things

where I make things up there there are

corroborated stories about people in

China that are doing this right I don't

do anything specifically what you said

they were Banning the uyghur language

you couldn't back it up with anything

uh I'm

I don't know what you want me to do here

I just want you to prove it to me prove

what you said

here copy simple this is the first link

on Google sure you said it first and

then you Googled it okay good yeah where

can I find it

I'm damning it to you right now seems

like the easiest way excuse me why did

that happen

all right so it's a surprise what the

link is ready

it's Radio free

hahaha

okay okay China bans uyghur language in

schools in key jinjiang and prefecture

okay listen sansold even if this even if

I just took this at the headline at face

value and said this is objectively the

truth there's no conflicts of interest

there's no bias this is a simple plain

face truth I'm just gonna accept it

because Google gave me the source so it

must be true even if I were to accept

the worst possible conclusion that

doesn't mean the government's Banning

the uyghur language it means the uyghur

language is allegedly supposedly banned

in schools which schools is not clear

and they keep sure and the way that we

did it in and so you see how you see how

you made you see how you made the leap

from saying the Chinese

okay well would you say then that we

didn't do that to the uh to the to the

indigenous children here in the us when

we you know it wasn't illegal to speak

uh you know uh Cherokee or whatever but

you know

they weren't allowed to learn their

language from a very young age so the

language died out that's why there's

like a thousand people that speak uh

Creek or Cherokee nowadays right because

we

destroyed their culture keep in mind

first of all that I'm just assuming that

this link of yours is 100 factorial well

sure but don't throw away right for

example if I were to but if I were to

throw you a source that is wholly coming

from the Chinese government you would

immediately say well I'm not going to

accept that I'm skeptical right you

would just can I be fair to assume you

no I'm saying no I'm saying that you can

be skeptical of the link right I'm

totally so we're just so I just want to

clarify first that we're just assuming

that link is correct when we're

entertaining this

but when we're entertaining that okay

if the you if all the US was doing was

that when it come to the indigenous

people then I could that wouldn't be

enough to say that it was a genocide but

it's the context right I didn't say that

was the only thing that they wanted the

context of the U.S government's

relationship to the indigenous

population that defines the meaning of

them erasing the culture and the

language in the schools the context in

China's case is entirely different

and what would be the difference between

the two then for you well the difference

is that there was an actual genocide

against Native American population

perpetrated by yeah

wait when I say what what is the

difference in your mind I mean like

there was an accidental question right

like massacres and things like that like

there was an actual genocide you know

that's the kind of

well sure do you think that you have to

kill a bunch of people in order for it

to be a genocide or well according to

how the U.N defines it not necessarily

but you do have to prove that there's a

intention to erase a group to

um to basically exterminate the group by

one means or another so the accusation

of genocide is very serious but another

thing I have to point out but even the

un's definition is political and heavily

contested and it was created during the

50s but if we go off the un's definition

that's what genocide means you know you

don't just say genocide means that you

personally I I'm actually like super

okay with that line of conversation

actually well I'm super curious about um

because I've had this conversation over

the past couple of weeks with my chat

and with other people are jumping in

chat

um is is the biggest contention for

people that are like super into China is

there base contention the name or the

the label genocide or is it any of the

claims

it's a it's a combination of both a lot

of the claims uh appear to be

exaggerated and ridiculous

um

and that corresponds to the label that

there's a now when you say there's a

uyghur genocide going on the first thing

ticking in people's head is what's a

uyghur it's just some foreign exotic

name and we know about a lot of horrible

foreign Americans don't know fucking

anything about um foreign policy or

anything we know a lot about uh horrible

things that happen in foreign countries

so there's a bias by it for Americans to

just accept that there's a weaker

genocide just because it sounds foreign

and it sounds bad

uh I don't

I don't know about that one like that

one feels weird to me this is this is

the reality that I see right even even

by China's own admission they are

there's a lot of things that they are

admitting to that I don't think that any

reasonable per reasonable person would

be okay with

um

the US government doing such as you know

vocational camps where they make sure

that they're like

teaching them not to speak their own

language right uh the absolute

absolutely crazy amount of

surveillance that's going on over there

the unbelievable amount of Rhett things

that can

uh list you as being a red flag right

like these are all things like just

owning camping equipment right this is

something that the Chinese government

has confirmed that the list of the red

flags is is real right okay well two

things they don't contest yeah two

things the first thing is that the

reason we wouldn't find it acceptable in

America is because we're Americans so

this is our country it's our business

and it's what's going on here we know

our country we have a feel for what goes

on in our country so obviously you know

in a vacuum if the U.S government was

just starting to you know

um

ban the Spanish teaching of Spanish in

schools I don't know what the

equivalents would be yeah there would be

all sorts of outrage but the context is

so different the difference is that

we're familiar not only is it our

business because we are Americans and it

actually makes a difference what we

think about what America does

we actually know the American context we

don't know the Chinese context we don't

know actually what's going on in China

we have no idea about this country with

over a billion people beyond the fact

that people are spreading this idea that

they're they're horrible I think they're

even given the the the things that they

are saying I don't think that we would

accept that here in the U.S right well

if there were if there was a couple of

people and there have been uh during the

beginning of Trump's presidency right

there are a couple of people that did

terrorist attacks in the U.S right this

is just something that happened if the

U.S government started you know rounding

up people that uh were Muslim and

putting them into education camps about

like patriotic education I think that we

would also be really upset about that

right even if we take China at every at

everything that they're saying at their

word right about the reasons why they're

doing it the things that they are doing

I think that the the context of that

even is really fucking like not straight

okay well two things one again we

wouldn't accept it if it happened in the

U.S because China isn't the US it's two

entirely different countries and

regarding that context you can't

actually compare Muslim terrorist

attacks in the U.S to Muslims in China

because the Muslims that live in China

have lived there

well before the Communist Party took

power they have actions well sure that

would make it worse we have actual roots

in China well I think a more fair

comparison is actually with a black

population in America now to give you

some perspective about these so-called

concentration camps

if we just go off on arrests alone not

detentions but just arrests

in 2017 which was the supposed crazy

Spike of arrests in xinjiang that were

so disproportionate and insane there was

a total of 227

000 arrests people in xinjiang right

um the data doesn't tell us whether

they're ethnically uighur or Han but

maybe we can just say that most of them

are probably ethnically weaker we don't

know right so let's just even assume the

worst thing

that's 227 000 out of a population of

somewhere around the ballpark of 30

million right

in the same year in the U.S

2.8 million black people were arrested

all right now I I understand that top

that I understand that what I

we have and in the U.S just like I don't

let me I don't understand

oh sure yeah let me further clarify

something to give you perspective it's

not

the population is comparable but of the

people living in xinjiang to the black

population in America

and you're talking about 10 times as

many people right I understand what yeah

the US does fucking horrible things with

our justice system I understand this but

we're not talking about the us right now

I I'm talking about it another time in

the U.S

say it again you cut out but but you

just said we wouldn't accept it if it

happened in the U.S and it seems like

yeah and people are mad about the

justice system here in the U.S

right but they're not really saying

there's a black genocide going on

well right because just because people

are getting arrested there is there's a

difference between being arrested for

one thing and then having you know your

entire culture Stripped Away from you

your language Stripped Away from you I

think right uh for for much lesser

crimes than even people are getting

arrested for in the U.S we have rules

for you don't think sorry about people's

culture and language was erased do you

know how they got here dude

oh well when they got here yes right I'm

talking about right now okay sure but

you don't think that systemic racism in

the prison industrial complex has

disastrous consequences for the

development of Black Culture within the

United States

um disastrous for their culture

um

perhaps well I mean a lot of black

cultures come out of the fact that they

are oppressed right but there's so we

can look at their music and the things

that they talk about through ART and

poetry and stuff like that right it

doesn't erase their culture

um it is incorporated into their culture

right you don't think that what they're

enduring is a form of repression that is

a race no I didn't say that well you

don't think it's repressing and the

development of an otherwise flourishing

culture that you know like you're saying

that the Chinese government is doing I

don't think there's any way for us to

know if if the culture would just

explode otherwise I feel like their

culture is very rich already right

that's true but I think it's fair to say

that the US is having bad consequences

for bad culture and it in its policies

by repressing and engaging in the

oppression of black people I'll give you

a concrete example of this right but

this is

really quick really quick okay the the

idea that

um repressing people is the exact same

thing as a cultural genocide I don't

think is a fair comparison because if

we're talking about the way that black

people are treated in the U.S sure we

all we all can accept that there have

been oppressed for the entire time that

they've been here right but we're not

right now right in the past we have

definitely done this but right now we're

not saying that you have to speak a

certain language or you have to

um you know we're not arresting them for

owning camping gear we're not arresting

them for having uh long beards we're not

arresting them you know these are things

that are important to making a lot of

claims so first you said having well

these are things that the Chinese

government have I'm only going to

operate in this discussion off of things

that I know that the Chinese government

has has the Chinese government is

engaged in a fan of long beards in

xinjiang

it's one of the things that can get you

red flagged for extra scrutiny or to be

thrown into one of the prisons it's not

necessary I've read from based on the

supposedly leaked documents is that

um if someone is exhibiting signs of

um basically religious extremism growing

a large beard you know in context is one

of those now in every context is that

true no but it can be an indication that

maybe someone is being radicalized and

they should have it and I kept on them

or whatever well okay but that's kind of

a leap to say that they're banning long

beards I mean it's a fact that

um growing a beard can be a sign of

religious extremism you know I don't

sure so what if there was a

what if there was a uh extremist

movement in the U.S and this extremist

uh movement everyone in it wore a very

specific kind of Nikes that was kind of

popular right right would we then feel

comfortable

Banning Banning a certain kind of

clothing or something like that we do

that for gangs we ban certain gang

symbols and we band Gang Clothing in

schools

say it again

in schools

right but that's not the law

well

um and goals are different if it got to

the point of being a problem I sure they

would I'm sure they would start passing

laws but the comparison is a little bit

problematic in the first place because

the reason the U.S government doesn't

have to engage in this kind of

uniformity uniformisation of the

national culture or whatever they're

doing

because it's already uniform at the

political level there's no equivalent

among the black population or the Latino

population of the level of autonomy both

politically and culturally that xinjiang

has enjoyed

um since the founding of the People's

Republic of China and now many people

said in the ultimate and last instance

they don't have sovereignty because

they're part of China and that's true

they don't have full sovereignty but

they do have a high degree of autonomy

in terms of how they're how it's run on

a day-to-day basis and an example of

this is the fact that there was a high

level of autonomy and what they were

printing in their textbooks they were

getting funding from all sorts of

countries turkey and you know the

Chinese government isn't controlling

every aspect of what's going on in its

provinces xinjiang and specifically I

suppose

the picture that's forming in my head is

that

the xinjiang autonomy has grown in a

direction that the Chinese government

feels it needs to inter I actually don't

really can't even confidently say that

I'm just thinking of it in terms of

you're beginning with a baseline of a

profound level of autonomy that no

minority in the U.S would ever be able

to dream of be able to enjoy like black

people don't well I I I I don't know

what like I know a little bit about the

history of the region I know a little

bit of the history in the past like 20

years what might have led up to the when

they kind of things that have uh

led to like whatever you want to call

these things just for the sake of

conversation

um the the like camps and stuff right

um and I I just don't think that any of

the any of the actions I don't care

about the the autonomy or anything like

that I I know a little bit about the uh

governmental structure of China

um

what I'm concerned about is the

um way that we talk about it feels like

instead of it being actually

attacking the points or the the things

that are happening in China right it

feels like

it's just

anything that America does bad and

anything China does good and I think

that even if we are a socialist and even

if like whatever I think that we should

be incredibly critical of

um you know any regime that's in charge

of a country right

okay so I'm gathering it's kind of hard

to follow you there's a lot of kind ofs

and maybe you know yeah sorry but um do

you want me to restate it a little bit

it seems like what you're trying to say

is that you don't really know anything

about China but you feel like you're so

much an authority to something on it

that you need to be like I know enough

about the the explanation to feel

comfortable talking on it right okay

well but you don't actually know

anything about the relationship between

the xinjiang province and the Chinese

governments and you don't actually care

who any of them oh sure yeah I know that

the people in xinjiang

um uh well the there's a

feeling enchanting that they are not

being ruled by a legitimate successor to

the last government that's one of the

arguments they use for um

I'm just saying you don't actually know

much about how China Works and how its

government works and I think you just

begin with this I mean I know about

their governmental structure and I I

don't know what part that I need to know

okay so you do know about its

governmental structure that's great yeah

sure I like to do research and stuff so

you know about uh the extent of

xinjiang's autonomy as a province

I know that they had the it was like the

oh fuck I don't remember the xinjiang

autonomous region or the uyghur uh

autonomous region yeah I know about that

right but I don't I don't think that

that's relevant to what we're talking

about why not

uh because I I feel like even if they

had more autonomy the fact that now

there is by China's own admission a lot

of uyghurs being interned into camps to

re-educate them

I I don't think that that's relevant or

I don't understand why it would be

relevant according to China's View

which you will deny but I have just as

much as right to deny your sources sure

in the same token according to China's

view these are vocational centers which

also exist through in other places in

China that are training the population

and preparing them for jobs basically

they're not really that out of the

ordinary as far as

how China's government works and how it

relates to its population

wait I I'm confused are you saying that

everyone that

it everyone's going to vocational

schools all over the place like yeah

there are other vocational schools

outside of xinjiang

well sure but are they detaining a very

very specific group of people there as

well

I don't know enough I don't know enough

well I I do know the answer is no none

of the other ethnic minorities in China

right now are being uh detained at the

same rate or for nearly the same reasons

as they are in xinjiang again I'm

guessing that's an inference maybe it's

a fair inference

I mean I looked at um it could be Affair

and for us but

no I looked at like data for this so um

yeah yeah okay so that may be true but

maybe yeah go ahead maybe that reflects

on the level of xinjiang's development

in relation to the rest of China maybe

it reflects in what way

well xinjiang is less developed than the

rest it's less industrialized and it's

less modernized in the rest of China

but why would that lead to so many

uyghur Muslims being detained to play

The Devil's Advocate it might be because

they need the necessary skills and

knowledge and training to be able to

participate in the modern job

um but that's not what China is saying

though

okay what are they saying

they're saying that there are there's

insurrectionist beliefs and and that

they are like you know supportive of

um

Independence and of terrorist groups

right no words it's a combination of

both China Also may be trying to address

um the possibility of separatistic and

Islamic well that was the primary reason

that I've seen them put out there is

that they are I don't adopted people to

be fair though I don't know I don't

think you said earlier yeah I don't

doubt that's the primary reason you've

seen because the primary spin of this

story as you've seen it is that there's

a weaker genocide so of course from the

Chinese government though but the

Chinese government isn't only well that

but you're you haven't you're not going

directly to the source of the Chinese

government to be able to fairly assess

what it's saying about the situation

you're going to secondary sources who

are citing those primary sources

selectively

uh you're saying that China is picking

its own sources selectively sorry

secondary sources that you're you're

getting this stuff from are selectively

choosing documents from the Chinese

government to no this is like Chinese

State media okay so you you know uh the

extent to which the proportion with uh

of which the Chinese State media is

focusing only on the aspect of

separatism and religious extremism and

not I figure yeah I figured when I

looked into this that it would be wait

do you see do you speak Mandarin

I mean it's it's translated and there's

a they have the um international branch

of their of their state media so it's

like Chinese translation like the

government translating their own news

source so I'd assume that it's not

Western propaganda wait a moment the

international news that's in English in

China is focusing on that aspect because

that's what's being heavily reported in

the west so they're trying to dispel a

lot of the things being said

specifically about that but you haven't

actually proven to me that you've

actually arrived

um at a necessary level of knowledge to

know whether the Chinese government is

mainly spinning it in terms of combating

religious extremism and separatism

rather than integrating the population

in xinjiang so do you think that it's

the reason that they are spinning it

that it's to combat

uh religious extremism is because they

think that everyone would think it would

be horrible if they imprisoned people to

learn how to do a certain trade without

cause is that what you're saying I think

you're confused right now I'm trying to

say there's a lot of reasons why there's

vocational centers in xinjiang and right

but they're like the only two reasons I

could think of for that right is either

by your admission that they're trying to

treat people or like teach people how to

um like work in a modern country or by

their admission to combat

extremism so either way those things

would be really ghoulish but why

couldn't people be both I can give you

an example of why it could be but that

but either way it would be bad but I can

give you an example of why it could be

both um for example the according to

even if it's both it's bad that's the

problem are you finished can I can I

talk her

do you want to say it's bad I just want

you to admit that if if we were

imprisoning people randomly that were

just like high school dropouts right and

we started imprisoning them and teaching

them how to weld that would be an

imposition of their rights correct well

America Works differently than China so

in the American context that does that

does sound pretty horrible admittedly

but but you would have to presuppose the

same level of acquaintance with Chinese

society as you do with American society

to arrive at that judgment and I don't

think you have I think that in any

context I would not want people to be

imprisoned against their will to learn

how to weld well yeah I I suppose but um

I think you're any context is pretty

much just America because that's all you

know

what context would be would it be

acceptable to imprison someone to teach

them how to weld for no reason

um

well you just said for no reason so I

guess in no context

okay so let's move it closer to this

situation under what con like what

country's context would it be acceptable

for someone to imprison someone based

off of their ethnic background to teach

them a vocation

I haven't actually had any data telling

me that China is has a policy of

detaining people strictly based on their

ethnic background

um

and also

vocational schools according to the

Chinese government since you

um yeah are using that as your Source

are voluntary they're not actually forms

of imprisonment

but but admittedly in China the way

China Works is that they don't have a

view of unconditional individual Freedom

so this is not how their society works

that's true from any other societies

if you don't have freedoms well to

choose what you do or what you like I I

don't understand why we would stand this

country if they get to choose what you

do for your living right if you don't

have any choice in like if you are like

particularly talented at I don't know if

you're like particularly talented at

teaching right you're a very very good

teacher and you know a lot about math

and then the government comes in and

puts you in a facility and teaches you

how to I don't know fix machines right

and you're like that's the only thing

that you're allowed to do then that's

also a Bad Thing even if it's a like

based epic socialist country well okay

well two things

um no one's talking about standing

anything I don't know what you mean by

that that's what you said second well

I'm okay go ahead second thing is that

um I think

I don't know if you have a level of

self-awareness for me for this to make

sense to you but when you're when you're

when you're saying that I think it would

be bad because it would you know because

the teacher should teach like you don't

think China has meritocratic systems

that deal with that I mean do you really

right you're telling me let me finish

let me finish yeah

um just because individuals don't have

unconditional freedom to do whatever

they want in Chinese Society doesn't

mean that the government acts

arbitrarily in relation to them and uh

it doesn't mean that the relation

between the government and the people is

just one-sided it's also double-sided

it's individuals do impact ultimately

how the government relates to them but

it's a it's a two-sided Affair now

someone in my chat is spamming it so

it's a good point I'll bring it up how

many and stop spamming dude I'm gonna

time you out how many talented people in

America can afford to get the education

that they want and they need I think

your point is kind of ridiculous

um well again what I'm talking about is

not affordability of Education I'm

talking about being forced to do

something against your will all right so

I think that that's a ridiculous

comparison vocational training center

doesn't force you to have a certain job

against your will it just trains you and

equips you to have the necessary skills

to enter the job market in the first

place now what job is going to be but if

you're if you are if you are going into

the if you're going into this Vocational

School against your will I think that

that is a bad thing

well I don't know that it's being forced

I think the context from what I've heard

of it being forced was if there's prison

if people who are sentenced to actual

prisons in China also have the

opportunity to to use the vocational

programs and similar systems exist in

both the United States and throughout

Western Europe

I'm sorry can you say that that last

half of that sentence again

yeah but what about Western Europe sorry

yeah I need to minimize my cat yeah

prisons in the U.S and Western Europe

have vocational

um sure yes right again but we're

talking about people who have not

necessarily committed crimes all right

the Chinese government they

have admitted to the the

absolute

amazing amount of surveillance that

people in the xinjiang region are having

to go through including right

requiring specific groups of people

namely the uyghur Muslims to have to

download a a kind of uh software onto

their phone so that the government knows

exactly what's on their phone at all

times if a uighur Muslim gets stopped by

the police they can have their phone

confiscated and searched through by the

policeman right all these things are

things that I think are not good and

pretty much if they are caught with

anything that is

not uh not 100 kosher with the Chinese

government they can be taken to a

vocational Camp okay well two things the

first thing is that

Mass surveillance

isn't genocide okay Mass surveillance

with the purpose of getting people to go

to imprison people in uh like

concentration camps is genocide though

is that why they have mass surveillance

in xinjiang because they have mass

surveillance throughout all of China

I know but they are there is evidence

from uh Chinese economic sources right

that shows that there has been an uh

unbelievable uptick in the amount of

surveillance infrastructure that's been

put into xinjiang there is there is no

one's making yeah no one's uh denying

that there is of course because there's

an issue there's more in xinjiang but

the reason for that is because there's

an issue of religious extremism and

separatism in xinjiang as evidenced by

the you know how much was it a thousand

or over a thousand uyghurs that were

found in the ranks of Isis within Syria

so this is this is the problem that

we've run into uh like four or five

times in this conversation

we've run into the conversation

where it is well it's not mostly because

of

um it's not mostly because of religious

extremism but it is mostly because of

religious extremism well it's mostly

because people don't have the necessary

jobs training in order to enter the

workforce well it's mostly because of

that well it's not mostly because of

that is it

what are you saying dude are you okay I

mean

what are you saying I'm confused

hello

hello did you cut out

I can't hear anything you're saying

he cut out

hello

let me DM him

okay here we go oh sorry my internet

died what was the last thing you heard

me say

um the last thing I heard you say was

you were sounded very confused

um and I asked you if you were okay and

another question sanso I have for you is

how come every time I talk to you I get

these people who spam penises in my chat

well I have people that are spamming

girls and Sons in my chat so I I think

that that's not a mutually assured

destruction thing those aren't TOS what

you're trying to do is Spam to West

things in my chat I'm not spamming

anything fucking wait wait every time oh

sorry my computer I thought that it

disconnected again say it again how come

I've every time I encounter you in any

way you're always somehow spamming I

always get these people spamming swaps

well if you give me if you give me their

usernames I will ban them from my

channel right here live it sounds really

sus dude it's super sus

what is it

um their box I'm typing out their Bots

well how could I possibly send a bot

over to you does it even work like that

I have slash ban and username ready I

don't know dude but it's super sauce

well tell me their username and I'll ban

them her name is Aurora

all right

at a u i don't have anyone named Aurora

in my chat yeah it kind of seems like

maybe you or someone you know is using

Bots to try to get me banned in my chat

but we have nightbot thankfully I don't

need them I don't know anyone named

Aurora and I also do not have the

fucking funds to buy any Bots all right

I'm poor but how come every time I ever

interact with you in any way they come

it's only with you

it's only with me sorry about that

friend false flag operations out the

Wazoo literally 1984. I don't know what

to fucking tell you buddy yeah but it's

pretty sauce dude come on it's pretty

sauce well if there's only one bot

that's spamming penises then ban them

otherwise tell me the name of the people

that are spamming penises in your chat

and I will ban them from my chat because

I don't allow that shit in my community

there's like 10.

hey all right spot not working what

happened to nightbot isn't nightbot

supposed to here you know what I'll go

over to your chat right now and I'll

look at their username since you don't

want to tell me them

there well I doubt that these are these

are Bots these are not legitimate users

so they're Bots they're not going to be

people who chat in your chat they're

just Bots

then why are you saying that they're

people that are from my chat I'm

guessing that people hire Bots to do

this or they have some kind of

thing I honestly don't know why how come

every time I interact with who they come

it's only I feel like you realize that

there's no real defense for anything

that's happening in xinjiang okay

the last but the last thing we left off

on was you

sounding confused about different points

of our argument just kind of so what did

you actually want to say

uh okay what I that's what I was trying

to ask you I don't remember what we were

talking about before the thing you were

you were just basically trying to repeat

some of the things I said but out of

context yeah TV is not in my chat

all right well it looks like the penises

are gone so

mods please take care of it okay you're

watching it religiously okay we got it

taken care of

does anyone in my chat remember what I

was talking about before my internet cut

you were talking all you said was that

here's the problem with our argument you

keep making arguments and you were just

repeating some of my arguments and I was

kind of confused

you were I think you were like

yeah I don't remember exactly what you

said

okay

so this is what I I guess I'll just

start a new line of conversation then in

regards to this sure I don't think that

when we are talking about

China's treatment of the uighur Muslims

I don't think that it is appropriate for

us to uh to try and

assume that even the things that China

is saying are are not true right uh I

think that when we look at it we should

have a consistent set of values right so

I don't think that having a different

context of human rights in the U.S or

China is a good thing I think that

having freedom

like individual freedom to choose what

you do and not to be uh arrested for

being associated

but not found guilty

of uh of being with a religious

extremist movement you know being Muslim

does not make you a terrorist right oh

um well do you not know about the

mosques that are being built in China do

you not know about the Huey Muslim I

know about the I know about the mosques

in xinjiang but you know that are being

converted from being places of worship

to bars and public toilets oh which ones

do you want me to give you their

addresses

um preferably if you can go that far can

you give me anything

there's there is

uh evidence that shows that mosques are

being shut down in xinjiang I'm taking

you at your word I'm would hope that you

would extend to me the same courtesy

since we're not just like going to a

barriers right I can't just take your

word for it it's kind of a pretty

outlandish accusation that they're

turning mosques into bars and toilets

foreign

come on man I need some evidence for

that

right well there's there's two ways that

this can go we either sit here until one

or both of us gets irritated enough to

start screeching and give the chat some

kind of entertainment or we can table

this discussion and we can both come at

uh we can come on each other on Thursday

or Friday with a bunch of sources since

right now all we can do is take each

other aspects you don't really have any

leverage to dictate scheduling of

continuing this conversation well I'm

not dictating I'm offering I bought

brought you on here completely

arbitrarily

and it doesn't it seems like you've come

up short you said we should have values

that we should apply universally but if

you don't know anything about the other

country I'm not sure what worth your

values actually have unless you think

that because you're asking me for the

exact address of mosques in China

that have been shut down

I said preferably I'm saying can you

give me any evidence that corroborates

that

all right

so copy

I'll send you this link

let's go ahead and if they are

if they are too Western for you you can

let me know

so this is some something that's

xinjiang mosques renovated equipped with

Banner amenities so that's a link I have

China demolishes mosque to construct

public toilet in xinjiang this is

znews.india.com

I'm not sure the validity but I guess

we'll have to go and see what they're

saying

a public toilet where did you put the

link that you sent me sorry

where'd you put the link that you were

sending me oh oh or did you not send it

yet no I didn't send it yet hold on oh

okay go ahead

I'll send you that one

this is from cgtn

it's Chinese uh medium

a public toilet has been erected on the

site of a demolished mosques in ATU City

in Northwest China's xinjiang uiger

autonomous Silvers believe it is a

mission of the Chinese okay

directive to this

um I'm looking for primary sources

there are none

so it's just this article saying that

but I don't know where they're getting

that from

do you know where the article got it

from or did you just listen to this

whatever this article said

oh it says some observers are saying

this

oh um and yours is saying does not is it

unless this is a primary source that is

uh you know just yeah very interested in

xinjiang mosques

well

see this is this is what I'm talking

about we can just throw Links at each

other that we haven't vetted or we can

come back to this conversation with

things that we want to do and think are

very strong evidence something else and

you wanted to talk about China

well what did you want to talk about did

you just want to talk about shit that

happened like two months ago or

something yeah because that's because

you lied publicly about how you didn't

see a message because it was under a red

line but a red line doesn't hide the

message

well I I publicly said that I don't know

how I fucking missed that and that it

was a mistaken that was on me and I

admitted to the mistake

oh so you just didn't your eyes were

looking there and your cursor was

hovering over it but you just didn't see

it

I I don't know why because I messaged

him before it happened and

he didn't respond to my message in time

to not do the bad thing so okay well

I've already publicly said even in

oh okay and every time I interact with

you I have people who spam my chat with

penises and swastikas that's also a

coincidence

hello

he cut out again

he cut out he cuts out at the most

convenient his bot Army is being taking

up too much internet

he cut out hold on wait for him wait all

right am I back yeah sorry my I can't

fucking do anything about ATT sorry

about that was the last thing I said it

takes a lot of bandwidth

uh I don't know what the fucking problem

is the guy that came out to fix it said

that there was a wire exposed and that

he fixed it but it still happened so

okay sure

yeah anyways uh what was when did I cut

out

um you were talking about how uh in

actuality you didn't see a message even

though you saw it

okay well

I like I said

uh

I've already admitted to that mistake

and I don't know how I didn't see it it

was very fucking stupid and I've already

owned up to that it was in my response

video which I assume he watched probably

many times right and you don't think the

behavior of your your friend she was

just being ableist not racist right

uh yeah I'll stand by that okay so you

don't think it's a little bit

chauvinistic to

um have a Chinese person who doesn't

speak English as their first language

come on and then chauvinistically and

rudely interrupt them mocking their

accent just because they don't speak

English as a first language

well I don't think that she was mocking

uh their accent I know that she was

walking the fact that they were

stuttering well do you know that there's

an uptake in anti-asian violence and

racism in the United States right now

Perdue went over that on my stream

so you don't think that that behavior

would be considered by many Asian people

to be chauvinistic and racist

um I think that uh this is really rich

coming from someone that uh was being

highly transphobic to no comment check

was I being transphobic to her go ahead

oh yeah I think that the it was really

really easily identifiable as say you

know you saying something like what was

it uh these people don't have to dress

all gross and and and weird and stuff

you don't have just because you're gay

doesn't mean that you have to dress

weird I think that's really fucked up

a lot of right-wing rhetoric which is a

city I said leftists are trying to use

uh LGBT people as their excuse for and I

use the example of the Chas mug shot I

didn't say gay people dress badly and

they should dress how I want them to I

actually said most gay people that I

know in real life clean up pretty well

and they dress nicely yeah this is

literally what right-wingers say oh is

it yeah literally like why do they have

to why do they have to uh shove the

gayness in my face well I know a couple

of gay people and they act like normal

all of you people are degenerates sanso

I didn't mention their gayness is being

rubbed in my face I said they're leftist

mental derangement which has nothing to

do with being gay or something oh yeah I

mean there are also people that dog

whistle about you know it's just the the

leftist mental illness that leads to

people being trans I mean it's really

hard to it's really hard to understand

what you're talking about when you're

using like language identical to

fascists sure so okay so have you seen

the Chaz mugshot

can someone link it uh

in the chat someone link it to me

someone so you're going to take a mug

shot and then base your entire well I

would just like I want your opinion do

these people look like they're

um just think a little bit and it just

seems a little bit nozbally to try and

uh dictate what people should or

shouldn't wear you know oh you're

talking about the nozzle so you I I

guess you're an expert on what nosable

means

well I know a little bit about it sure

enough to be able to identify a

knowledgeable type rhetoric yeah no okay

sure so what are what's a nozzle I'm

curious educate me you know yeah it's

like a little bit of Nazi a little bit

of socialist but it's usually socialist

for only a pretty select group of people

and where did that come from where did

that word come from I don't think that

that matters whatsoever oh so so so

you're just are you saying National

Bolshevik are you asking like who

invented the term no I'm just saying

like where did that nozzle thing come

from because it kind of sounds like

you're just making up your own view of

what that means that has nothing to do

with reality

uh

so I can describe a a nozball oh yeah I

don't know what it is exactly that

you're like asking me so to to you a Nas

bowl is anyone who's a Nazi and also a

leftist or something

uh it's basically like a fascist that

that has left his ideals but for a very

specific group of people or like a a

much smaller group of people than I

would consider acceptable right who

falls under the definition of one

besides me of course

uh I would say someone like Eric Striker

um fuck who's the other one allsup uh I

think that these people are Nas bowls

um oh so they know Edward lamanov and

all that stuff

uh they might

well they might okay Caleb malpin

probably do you okay so do you know

Edward lamanov

I don't think that it matters whether

I've read a book about this or someone's

ideology or whoever created the term but

I think that that is a deflection

because you don't have any way to argue

against it but I thought you were an

authority on what nosbel means so surely

you know about it well I never said that

did I

okay so you're just using words you

don't you know which you don't know

basically I feel comfortable enough to

call you a Nazi a Nas Bowl right all

sorts of things but you don't know I

think that people like you are a direct

harm to the left and if you ever gained

power a lot of people people like no

common chick probably wouldn't have any

rights because uh your your selection

for people for how whether they're

degenerates or whatever is is really

weird right but you're using words which

you would admit you don't know what they

even mean so which word

I've already explained what a nozball is

um you've explained what an Osborne is

okay well give me give me your

definition if it if mine's not adequate

enough for you if we have to throw

around definitions all day then this is

going to be a very fun conversation but

let's go it's not a matter of

definitions you're just using words you

seems like you made up or people you

know made up that have no bearing on

reality the nozzle party was formed in

Russia and eventually became part of the

liberal opposition to Putin they were

considered left-wing so much to the

point where I don't like them actually I

consider them anarchistic I say consider

them punk rock anarchists but they had

LGBT people in their party Edward Le

manov the leader of the nozzles was

himself bisexual and he called for the

abolition of the family and the Russian

Nation itself

um so it doesn't really sound like you

know what you're talking about when you

say nozball when nozzles as they

actually existed were more similar to

you than me I'm way more conservative

than nozzles are personally in terms of

my personal uh taste now so you're

admitting to being conservative fucking

really weird that I'm not a conservative

in terms of imposing it on others or

judging others on that basis but if you

look at it definitely judging no comment

check on how she dressed is it because

you found her to be like really pretty

or something is that something that well

is that the problem well because I'm not

sure

I'm not sure if uh that's a word I would

use to describe her but

I think I would just say that it seems

like people like her are just put up an

edgy appearance in general that has

nothing actually to do with necessarily

being LGBT and actually probably most

LGBT people have nothing to do with that

it's mainly just this kind of punk rock

leftism which you've seen are

wait are trans people or LGBT people are

they not allowed to dress like Emos well

it's not a matter of who's allowed to

dress like who it's just a matter well

it seems like you're that's but that's

what you're implying that it's not a

part of being a LGBT person that you

address with this aesthetic right what

does her being trans have to do what

does being trans have to do with looking

like a maniac in the Chas mugshot

well well the that given the the words

that you use very very much that is a

you thing but why right I don't think

there's anything trans people you did

not me

did you know that there's traffic you

were the one that was talking about LGBT

people

dressed like when they're in Chasm so

you're the one that brought that up

to trans identity my guy did you know

that there's a few trans people in our

community at least that I know of wow

there's also trans Nazis I don't think

that that means anything so if it

doesn't mean anything why are you

bringing it up

what what the what the fuck is that uh

response so I say you say weird things

about trans people and the way that they

dress and you mimic right wing talk and

then you respond with well I'm not

actually talking about trans people

you're talking about trans people I was

directly talking about something that

you had said on a previous story what

did I say and then you deflect back to

the fact that actually I have trans

friends which is a fucking hilarious

response given you know how much we make

fun of people that say well actually I

have a black friend and he says

what you're doing right wait a second

and then

and then you try to say that I'm the one

that has the problem with trans people

actually because there are people that

are trans and have like really negative

views on politics and social issues

people like Blair white you know so I

think it's really funny that this is the

fucking line of conversation that just

happened uh are you done yet or is it oh

I'm waiting for you buddy go ahead well

I was just wondering why you're bringing

up trans people and what I specifically

said about trans well because we were

talking about Nas bowls right and

they're leftists that are conservatives

right but what did I say about trans

people

oh my fucking god am I in a Time Loop

because we've literally just went over

this like seconds ago over it what did I

say about them

that you know they LGBT people they

don't have to uh they don't have to

dress that way you know they're they're

just like trying to get attention or

whatever like I know I know LGBT people

I know gay people that don't have don't

dress that way they're not trying to get

attention

here's what I actually said I said the

Chinese people are mentally deranged and

there's nothing about being LGBT that it

justifies them using them as a shield

because uh if plenty if not probably the

majority of LGBT people have nothing to

do with this derangement I'm not saying

I'm not prescriptively saying what

arrangement could you possibly

I need to remind you whose Discord

you're in and I can YouTube okay well I

mean if you want to mute music

why are you talking over me I let you

finish your sentence so let me finish

mine because I don't understand what

you're saying what I'm saying is

basically very simple I wasn't

prescriptively saying which transgender

or gay people should be doing I was

disentangling left is derangement from

LGBT people

wait are you saying that you don't

consider yourself a leftist

no but I was I'm critiquing leftist

derangement which I do think is a real

thing

um what would that be

um I think there's a lot of leftist

derangement that gets too caught up in

hating the world and trying to negate

everything and be against society and be

against the people and uh adopt these

anti-social tendencies that basically

alien alienate you from the majority of

the people in the country within which

what kind of antisocial

well the type of demeanor and attitude

and behavior of the people for example

at Chaz where they killed two unarmed

black kids and no one even remembers it

to this day

well it wasn't the Chaz people from what

I understand

it was it was it was the anarchist that

killed the black people and not the the

fucking neo-nazis that drove through

there and like did a drive-by making

things up it was Chaz leftists who

killed those two black teenagers

all right well and you're saying that

because of that what because of what's a

sign that there's a deep level of

leftist arrangement that they're they're

it's becoming a circus and it's becoming

a form of psychosis they tried to create

Chas and it ended in a psychotic

Massacre of two unarmed black students

when the whole point of Chas in the

first place was supposedly protest

police brutality of unarmed black people

and black people in general they ended

up doing the very thing they were trying

to protest and no one remembers it to

this day and it's very strange that

you're trying to squirt around and deny

this no I don't I don't

uh I have never heard this thing that

you're talking about people in my uh in

my chat are

you know saying the Republican talking

points again because this is literally

stuffed up do you know who rob Noor is

uh is that relevant to what I just said

or

uh yeah because you sound just like him

right now what is what I'm saying wrong

uh I am almost uh almost certain what

you're saying is wrong but you're saying

that people like lynched black people in

no they did kill them I didn't say they

lynched them you're putting words in my

mouth they did kill them well what I'm

but you're saying that they killed them

because they were black I don't

understand what the what the argument is

you're making comparisons between random

conservatives I can compare you well

you're you're comparing police

to assigning it to like the left-leaning

movement in this country I don't

understand it there's a level of

left-wing derangement that's thrown

under the rug and hidden and occluded

and left disarmed denial about it and

okay so besides this one little instance

what other kind of leftist arrangement

do you see I suggest talking to people

of color who feel that white leftists

are no better than right wing well I

talk to a lot of people of color I

suggest you talk to more to gain more

perspective and enrich your perspective

because how many how many how many

people of color do I need to talk to

well I think you need to address the

widespread concern that white leftists

are no different than white writers

according to them

I I've never heard this on my side of

the political aisle oh well it sounds

like you're filling yourself in a white

Echo chamber and you need to read no it

seems like it seems like you're echoing

fucking conservative talking points

again it's kind of bizarre that you call

me a nosable and yet you share the same

color blindness of supposed nozzles as

leftists call them what what color

blindness have I what you're saying that

all of people all of the people of color

who are sharing their concerns that

white leftists are no better than white

writers

people of color that are uh that agree

with me on most things that don't think

that

I'm curious to see what they have to say

about the several people of color

um who argue that white leftists are no

better than white writers

well in their experience

I I feel like the the only people I've

ever seen talk about this are the the

straw man of what the

uh lefties on Tumblr were and the only

people that ever talked about those

people like this with any amount of

um seriousness like they were an actual

threat to our civilization like Sargon

of akkad and other right Wingers and

fashion so it's interesting how

selectively you're gonna choose that I'm

a nozzle because I'm against American

and white supremacist chauvinism but

when it comes to

um white leftist being the ones

criticized suddenly you're willing to

take this

not nearly it's not nearly as prevalent

as you seem to be making it out to be

not by a long shell okay well that's

your white View and uh your view is

noted white he said he called me white

guys that means that I can't uh argue

anymore well I didn't say that I said

that is your white View and it's noted

it's no good

well it's one View and it's not the only

View

sure and it's informed by your

background console

sure okay

anything else you want to go over well

you're the one who wanted to you know

well we have people actually who are

telling me messaging me that they're in

China and they want to talk to you do

you want to talk to them

um I mean we could

all right

um

where are they who are they wait they're

gonna hold on

is it oh it's this guy

hey are you the guy in China

oh fuck

time to get in the show queue

the red comrades in China

they're not in Shoku

where you at

which yes I got bored listening to my

wife's voice

what's your Discord name

all right well I guess they're gone now

okay

um

well

if there's nothing else so I guess you

weren't really successful in backing up

any any of the things you were saying

about me

I I don't think that you're successful

in backing up any of the things that you

said about me either I'm not convinced

what did I say

um you know Western chauvinist white

um grifter whatever I am to you calling

you a grifter implies that you're

actually successful but you only you're

only 20 viewer Andy so I'm not worried

about that don't worry

okay

yeah

anything else

um

Stalin was a pedophile oh prove it

please

prove he's not

well you're a pedophile

oh shit yeah prove it prove you're not

prove you're not

oh no my friend

oh no my friend you're the one that you

are the one that made the claim yeah but

you're the one who made the claim about

Stalin

yeah but I don't feel like defending

that point because I am playing a video

game I don't want to find the uh the

links right now I don't feel like

defending it either

okay

so we're you agree you're a pedophile

basically no I didn't say I agreed with

that at all

sounds like you are what what uh what

would you say if I called you a

pedophile

well it would be as much worth as you

calling me calling Stalin one

he said he oh wait people in my chat are

saying that you said you were going to

fuck polar's world

no I didn't you said like it's not with

polar and when I have evidence I have

evidence of that whole discussion

someone was talking and I said I'm gonna

why haven't you posted it infrared I can

post this if your chat demands it I can

pose this part polar's world was support

talking because I posted the entire

recording of what I had that night and

for some reason can you let me finish

polar for some reason you kept on saying

you had the whole conversation for some

reason you weren't able to post anything

so what was it did you have the full did

you have the full thing or no let me

address this one first pullers yeah just

talking without me knowing who they were

at all I didn't know anything about them

and I just said I'm gonna fuck you and

then you said you were gonna fuck a

minor how no no no no I didn't I said I

was gonna fuck your girl then someone

told me polar's world was 17 and I said

how did I know they were seven oh yeah

yeah that's exactly what happened prove

it I can't prove it if I if I really

need to I can prove it I don't think

people are gonna believe it though it's

so stupid but I can if enough people

bother me about it I can post it

yeah

I might be able to unless it's too worse

if I said I said some maybe some TOS

things in that call so I don't know

but yeah there were a couple of people

but I might not show it on stream but I

ended stream I ended stream right after

the uh

The Raid into no comment chick so I

don't have anything that happened after

the raid so

um if you have the rest of that call I

would love it that would be really

exciting that would be really fantastic

I've been asking for it for a while you

threatened me with it for a while and

then you never posted it after

threatening we didn't we didn't so it

makes me feel like you don't actually

have any long long uh longer we didn't

we didn't post it because we only had

your stream in its entirety but we

didn't have what happened after you

ended yours oh then why did you keep on

saying that you had the full thing

because we did

so you did but now you don't no we still

have it but you we still have it

but it's the same thing that I posted

but we didn't we didn't catch what

happened after you ended the stream is

the problem well right that I mean

neither did I because I ended the stream

yeah

okay well they're here communication

we have people from China that are here

so

this person's actually living in China

right now

uh hello veggies

yes hey what's up hold on

hi can you guys hear yeah I can hear you

I can hear you just fine how's it going

okay

um there's one more person comrade

selected needs to be put in as well here

he is

okay easier

hello

hello

okay

can you hear me

yes yeah all right I can hear you too

how's it going guys

uh we're doing good

glad to hear it

all right what what did I get wrong what

which part was uh Incorrect and you

everything in your eyes everything

everything which part of everything

everything because there were some

things that Chinese government

admitted to

and yeah I can I can tell you what they

admitted to sure um and it doesn't meet

the requirements the most that it meets

was that um basically the the party sent

cadres when they investigated the the um

decades-long terrorist attacks that have

been happening so they wanted to track

the source of it right

so they tracked the source of the

terrorist attacks and it was coming from

wahhabist

and uh they said well are these

wahhabist

um you know

coming from outside of China or inside

of China and it was a little bit of both

there were there were some that were

trying to get in some were weiger some

were Turkish

some were not

there were oyger Muslims from China that

had left that had been radicalized

um this goes back to the 90s did you

read anything about that about uh oyers

that are in Guantanamo Bay right now

because the etim

um the East Kyrgyzstan Islamic movement

was the original

um

jihadist group that was committing

attacks and they were also uh coming

from Afghanistan where they were trained

so it's like there's a history there in

the 90s and then when the attacks in the

late 90s started happening

um

the the mainstream media kind of ignored

things because around that time there

was uh the things going on in Yugoslavia

um there were a lot of other things

going on so these are things that flew

onto the radar in the West

I don't think that the any news

organization sorry because there needs

to be there needs to be

that needs to be addressed first you go

through the hit but I don't understand

why these things are relevant no no no

no no no this

okay no I know what you're talking about

because whenever I first started hearing

about this and learning about it I mean

I live in China so if if China is being

accused of committing a genocide I want

to know what's going on because whenever

I moved here

um I didn't know anything about it right

so

um

you know before I came here I didn't

really have a strong like I'm a tanky

stance or anything like that I'd been an

anarcho-communist for most of my adult

life so you know I came here to escape

poverty I came here

to do something with my life

um you know I didn't care what country I

went to but I decided to come to China

because it was my best option so I

looked into it because that's what you

do when you hear the mainstream media

talk it's like this is probably not the

truth it's coming from the Americans

because I'm from Texas bro

yeah yeah so you know what I mean so

whenever I I would take exception to

some of that but we can continue about

two years ago the the most you can

accuse China of is extrajudicial

detainment by saying you are required to

go to school basically they went to

these poor Villages they went to these

poor villages with their party cadres

they sent the party cadres in and they

said

um you know they went door to door

talking to the the neighbors the friends

the family the community members where

they found actual terrorist cells so

they found the terrorist cells they

found the sources of attacks in xinjiang

the oyger

autonomous or uyghur you know they they

found it in

uh are you saying wait I'm sorry did you

say that all yeah go ahead

look what I'm saying is that xinjiang

is called the xinjiang ER autonomous

region because they are the majority

they're the majority population there so

there were hand

and there were hoi that's which is

another ethnic group of Muslims here I

know a lot of Hui and uh uyghur people

here in in uh I'm in Northeast China

so you know I go to hollow restaurants

and things like that

um nearby my my place of employment so

you know I wanted to find out if it are

is this really happening where I live

you know uh fucked up really quick or I

need to clarify something really quick

all right so you're saying number one

that they

that you're saying that they are

extrajudicially

putting people into vocational schools

okay so let me go through the because um

I can send you the link to this article

well that's a yes or no question I can

no no

cancel wait uh can I can I step in for a

second but I do want to I do want him to

answer that question I actually study

education I'm an education major here in

China so I just want to correct you on

something

um yes everyone is required to have an

education they they are definitely

entitled to an education here

okay

so I I don't want you twisting about

what he said yeah yeah well yeah exactly

extrajudicially means outside of the law

that's literally what it means

extrajudicial uh which is what because

um this is coming from uh this

journalist that

um has been there for years he went he

went to cover this and he wrote an

article for cgtn since he had been there

um for a number of years and so he just

this these were based on his

observations as a journalist and uh

there's been a lot of journalists um and

on both sides of the issues where they

said no we don't think China did wrong

or China did some wrong and but it's not

my country I don't make the laws here

but it's being exaggerated

um I I everyone uses WeChat here waiting

and um

there's an applet that translates

and other ethnic minority languages into

Mandarin they are not required to speak

Mandarin but since this country

is a majority Mandarin speaking country

it is advantageous for them to learn

that language just because it's

advantageous doesn't mean that it should

be mandatory or that people should be

arrested and put into vocabulary

no no no no no no what what I'm saying

here even if I can do that

you're saying that but I'm not what I'm

saying really quick I understand what

you're saying what I'm saying yeah well

yes I would consider that genocide

because I also think that wait a second

that happened in the uh that's your

Western because the same thing happened

in the U.S where we put a bunch of

indigenous tribes actually well well

it's not the same why let me

let me say this because like I said I'm

in China I studied education back in the

U.S and I study it here in China okay

let me let me school you a little bit

okay yeah first of all China is United

by the language of Mandarin they are not

forcing people to learn Mandarin and

forget their their language putting them

into camps to learn they are not doing

that show me can you show me proof can

you show me you've literally he was okay

do we should we kick you you're twisting

his words

judicially arresting people and putting

them into camps because it is uh illegal

to not have an education let me briefly

intervene on behalf of not what's being

said he did not say that he said that it

sounded to me that he's they found

actual people convicted of uh or they

were found to be Terr engaging in

Terrorist activity in in villages

somewhere and they were subjected I

think is that a million of them no he

didn't say that he didn't say that yeah

I'm going he only mentioned the village

okay

the way they stop the terrorist attacks

from happening what they did

you're very quiet loopholes

four loopholes uh so the solution one

was uh dealing with poverty

um and and there's other arrests too

that were made for

um you know drug dealers and whatever

other crimes happen

um another thing is is they didn't go

breaking down doors they did not go

breaking down doors because

um Chinese police are not allowed to

kill citizens unless absolutely

necessary and um they get executed

there's accountability here that is not

existent in the United States so I'm

sick of this projection you're

projecting you're projecting America

you're holding up a mirror to America

and saying oh this is China it's not

what exactly is happening here is you

are hiding behind a mirror and not

letting people see the other side of it

because it would uh it would show yeah

you're you're hiding behind it'll take

mirror because you're reflecting all

you're doing is a what about ISM you

can't actually address what is happening

we live in China

you don't you don't know what you're

talking about so you're speaking stencil

wait hold on okay let me speak I want to

speak because

okay here's the thing

what you do and what everyone else likes

to do is they go to CNN BBC and they're

like oh my gosh this is terrible they're

oppressing people

of what was happening in xinjiang I just

want to know if you'd seen them like

hacking people to death

I'm just curious if if you had seen that

happening because let me tell you let me

tell you I I watched so there were

people yeah no so sanso don't interrupt

don't do it you're making an argument

don't interrupt if you interrupt videos

I can do the same thing with videos of

these no you can't no you can't shooting

that's like no you can't say that all

muscles

we've actually live here in China we can

investigate it

no I've already said I didn't use any

CNN sources when I then what sources did

you use

what sources

they funded so that's everything

everything that I would link to you guys

you would say is Cia or no

stencil even like I I want to know I

want to know exactly what is what is

your interest in this

I don't think that China is this like

big bad like Saturday evening fuck it or

Saturday afternoon

um cartoon villain that is trying to

rule the world no I don't think that

whatsoever I think that China is doing

things that are against the US and the

US is fucking losing because we're dumb

as fuck all right now yeah what I will

say right no I I'll agree with that

right I don't think that their belt and

Road initiative is a uh inherently uh

negative thing I think that there's a

lot of things that China does that um we

can try and emulate here in the US I

think all these things are perfectly

reasonable things to say however I can

look at good things in a country and I

can also look at bad things in a country

right I don't have any specific hate for

the country yeah

can I tell you about your narrative

that's very dangerous not only is your

narrative dishonest but this narrative

that you that the US and the West is

perpetuating in the media is literally

harmful to the xinjiang people and the

people who work in xinjiang because that

is their livelihood like for example the

situation with the Continental Sports

labor you don't hurt people you want to

help that doesn't make any sense uh you

do hurt people that you want to control

no no no no I you don't hurt people you

want to help that narrative is very

hurtful well I think that arresting

people against their will for having

life what arrests are happening against

them well because you know can I tell

you most arrests happen I tell you a

story can you please stop talking over

me so I can talk like I'm really rude

like honestly when I was watching you

before you weren't doing that so now

you're kind of doing that to me and I

don't appreciate it okay

um I have been here for five years and

I've seen a lot of stuff okay I'll tell

you a story uh there were these vendors

uh out on the street and the thing is

when you have like Street vendors you

have to like be registered to make sure

the food quality is good and and

everything and everything's on the up

and up right just like we have in the US

you know everything should be up and up

clean you know and there are these

Street vendors who didn't have that and

the police came by and tried to tell

them to go home you know what happened

more people gathered around to support

the street vendors

okay and you know what the cops did they

backed away they didn't they didn't beat

them they didn't arrest them completely

opposite of what you would see in the

U.S so I actually have seen police

involvement here and how how they

interact with the people and it's

nothing like what you're saying what

you're saying okay is a complete lie and

you're projecting what happens in the US

because that's the only way I'm still

I'm still speaking okay I'm still

speaking it's rude okay so everything

you're saying about what's happening in

xinjiang you're projecting what happens

from the U.S onto China because here's

the thing well now you're feeling well

let me speak let me speak because you

know I worked in a vocational school

here do you do you know I worked in

educational schools

in the uyghur genocide because that's

really fucked up of you there's no

uyghur gen Hey listen I have uh ethnic

minority professors

there's no genocide

there's no you're you're over talking me

and I'm trying to talk to you but the

other guy is talking and I can't hear

you because of it

I'm focus on what I'm saying instead of

instead of everybody else like you're an

adult come on we're we're not in school

I think it's a okay go ahead here's the

thing I worked in a vocational school in

China do you know what the purpose of

vocational schools are do you know

well teaching people languages

um did you work at one in xinjiang or

just in China they're they're all

they're actually all the same vocational

school is a vocational school and it's

xinjiang if you're gonna say the name

please say it correctly okay yeah no

there's been that's really that's really

disrespectful oh it's really

disrespectful I think it's really

disrespectful how you're completely uh

just sitting here and running defense

for a for a regime that is no I'm I'm

telling you my experience are you

telling me my experiences

in China in 2018 were uyghur Muslims but

they only take make up one percent of

the population

first of all they have like do I I have

a question uh were you around that one

can I can I ask you were you around for

9 11. uh yes I was alive for that but

that doesn't answer my question

of the population that was arrested how

old were you when 9 11 happened that

doesn't have anything to do no no no no

no it absolutely I asked the question

first I'm trying to get to my point

don't make me dude well I haven't I

listen if you're just gonna like sit

here and uh in filibuster and ask me

questions in sea lion then this isn't

going to be a real discussion hey hey

answer the question answer the question

I I was around for 9 11. like I saw it

happen in real time I'm from that area

okay okay

and they were being attacked by the

people

do you know that when there were

terrorist attacks here in China okay

the government was actually telling

people not to single them out because

these are extremists these are

extremists that's completely different

if you actually watch the interviews

they they actually interview the people

who committed these crimes

and they tell you exactly what they're

fed in order to do it do you know what I

find really strange in the U.S we never

get to interview people who commit these

crimes that's not true

I don't know what we're going to live in

there were there were energy

in the real world the world with facts

yeah

yeah and you know I just want to tell

you that you know we have experience

here and I worked in a vocation school

and let me tell you the purpose of a

vocational school

because the Vocational School helps

people

get the skills they need to function in

society to have jobs are you saying that

people

and xinjiang don't have a right to have

jobs

I'm saying that if you're arresting them

and putting them into schools against

their will that uh that's a bad thing

they're not being put in there against

their will

how about people in the U.S who are

arrested and they just sit there

and they're not rehabilitated there's

nothing

do you support that is that what you're

saying

so there's actually a native Chinese

when we talk about the vocational

schools you're talking about your idea

of what a vocational school and the one

that you worked in no I'm talking about

orange jumps I'm talking about your

experience which is that completely

irrelevant to what we're talking about

and I saw the things that happened there

and then I live in China

because if anything

the information you're solved by the

government which is State media anything

that the government wants you to hear is

something okay training centers those

were how can I fuck can I hear you can

you please turn on right I literally

can't hear you

the pictures you saw were of Prisons

prisons exist and yeah prisons that

they're putting weaker Muslims in right

now yes there's over 350 of them right

now and they've housed over 100 those

numbers from from Western media yeah

what proof is it that that he's muted

he's muted say what you guys want while

he's muted posted misleading photos of a

drug rehab there was a picture of a um a

normal prison there was the normal

prison transfer there were videos from

other countries there was so much

disinformation put out there by

um quote-unquote independent sources and

picked up by the mainstream media that

were out of context completely so the

the vocational training centers are

separate from prisons those are two

different things so if somebody is um a

12 year old and they live in this

Village in xinjiang and they've never

been to school before the government

says okay this person needs to be in

school there's part of the poverty

alleviation that they rolled out all

over the country by the way

um there was a lot of broad sweeping

Universal policies that also applied to

combating

um terrorism over there so these are

things that they were already planning

to do poverty alleviation was one of the

top priorities that was XI jinping's

entire thing the president here came

from a rule

region he grew up poor so one of his

things was like we need to we need to

alleviate poverty

so part of combating terrorism was

through education and Poverty of

alleviation and

um building up um economy so sansol's I

currently muted him because he kept

talking over people uh Jay is he also

here and he's from China

um

yeah

yeah uh does it help I'm from I'm a

native Chinese I grew up in Sichuan and

Chengdu so how's everyone in chat doing

you're you're unmuted now Sansa but let

this guy talk I'm I'm oh I'm sorry I I

don't uh I don't participate in chats

where people just uh sit there and uh

filibuster and say things that are

completely irrelevant right uh it sounds

to me like unless I can have my question

answered but you kept interrupting them

is the problem

well they kept interrupting me they

never answered a single question that I

asked I think he answered your question

quite comprehensively actually

uh oh sorry I had muted because I wasn't

going to sit here and get uh

proselytized too

well he was he was trying to answer your

question because you kept talking over

well I didn't ask him a question I asked

her a question

and I can't hear him anyway because he

won't turn the gain up on his goddamn

mic

okay he could just turn off his full

name I turned it up to 200 I cannot turn

up anymore oh that's funny because

everyone else can hear him like super

clearly but you can't well I well you

can ask people in my chat if they can

hear him as clearly as anybody else if I

turn up the volume anymore then uh

infrared is going to be peeking out and

blowing everyone's ears out and then

everyone else is going to you know

stencil what question did I not answer

this question what's the topic right yes

which which part did you did did you

think he didn't answer like clearly what

question do you have what I wanted to

know was when when we're talking about

her experience you know liberal it poll

when we're talking about her experience

in these uh in these vocational schools

what does that have any relevance to do

with what we're talking about in

xinjiang when because it doesn't matter

so everywhere when I when we're talking

about what's happening in xinjiang I I

don't know at your Vocational School

were they forced to wear orange

jumpsuits walk around in lines

they don't wear that they don't wear

this literal satellite photos

that's like pictures you've seen on

Google dude like oh that's not even what

they wear at the vocation at least I can

do my own research in my country and I

don't have to listen to a bunch of

fucking you know state-sanctioned

information you know at least I live in

a country where I have the freedom to

learn what I want to learn and not get a

get fucking arrested at least I live in

a country where I have freedom not to

get arrested because I'm a I'm a

Christian or I'm a Muslim or anything

else just like Julian Assange just like

Julian Assange

you guys I mean look I know that you

guys can't say a whole bunch of things

because you'll get arrested otherwise

right free Julian Assange

propaganda if that's not some kind of

paranoia like if you need a tinfoil hat

in order the CIA get information about

what they do wait wait wait wait wait

wait wait wait wait what they do wait

why isn't it like I have a CIA I'm gonna

mute you for a second wait wait sansol

do you not do you not know about the NSA

dude

I I know about the NSA for sure right

what I'm trying to say is like Jason

every single piece of information that I

bring out right

if every single piece of information

that I bring out is just going to be CIA

propaganda Western propaganda and

there's nothing that I could possibly do

then what the fuck is the point of this

conversation dude dude you link radio

Asia it's literally a government funded

source

to China what a fucking baby what a

loser holy shit why are they not allowed

people dude how do you not know it's

funded by the government that's a basic

fact it's literally on the first like

you like Wikipedia right it's even on

Wikipedia it's an openly state-funded

Media Company

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vocational schools who's talking about

I was I was drawing my my fucking oh I I

was drawing look I was I was reading an

article as we were talking okay that was

my source because I know that you're

gonna say oh we're your personal

experience doesn't matter

um everything yeah it doesn't matter to

me I like data no no no no no no no no

then I feel sorry for you that you don't

want to hear hear other opinions outside

of like this is liberal right now what

you're doing

if we use anything

through tiny State media you're you are

not gonna listen to any calendar I

literally cited how Chinese State media

in our discussion with infrared

well we were waiting in the show queue

so I wasn't no you didn't do that well

you should have fucking listen then

shouldn't you calm down song calm down

you're both talking

you got to calm down dude you sound

really angry

I sound angry and maybe it's all the

people that are scary right now against

their countries

maybe we should let a local let Jay

speak let Jay Speak oh I'm sorry I

thought you were a local Chinese person

let Jay speak why not I I didn't say I

was a local Chinese person sorry you

lied to say that you were from China

then okay she said she was living there

I'm in China

let Jay speak I said I've been here for

five years oh yeah yeah okay let's let

the locals they actually know what

they're talking about

really because I spoke for two centers I

got like brigaded by like you're just

brainwashed at least I live in a country

that's freedom and I don't you don't get

arrested for speaking up that's like I

haven't got hey I've said a lot of mean

things Sansa I'm gonna mute you I gotta

mute you dude you keep talking over here

this is all I fucking sorry guys he's a

white supremacist and he he's trying to

talk over a native Chinese speaker

please go ahead Jay yeah

so I want to show because well even like

even the most western like media Outlet

could not sit like this was no evidence

of physical genocide so I I calm down

here because this freaking laughing like

why dude like was taking this

eurocentric view on my coach you can't

be like our culture my country isn't you

can't just be in like a nation stage

it's a multi-ethnic multi-regional like

Civilization

Chinese culture isn't dictated by either

Han Hue which we have 56 different

ethnic groups like

was like I'll try was our culture

heavily influenced by hot people yes

because that was a majority what built

our civilization but since the party is

like founding after like they liberated

Tibet they liberated with the other

provinces which I was unbrew by either

like a feudal system or by like a

dictatorship Warlords they from the

beginning from the founding you know

Constitution was that our culture from

now on every ethnic group Chinese

culture is Chinese culture we have

different ethnic groups but the

fundamental centralized culture is

Chinese it's not Han culture it's not

way Quaker so it's a Muslim culture

different ethnic group has different

ethical characteristic so I really don't

understand what this cultural genocide

perspective is because you just couldn't

understand like how a Eastern

civilization and this worldview is

because this is just so insane to me

uh it sounds like because sanso is so

scared of uh non-white voices that he he

muted you on his stream but um we're

gonna go ahead and unmute him and uh see

if he can respond to what you said

all right yeah so yeah so the reason

that I I again I don't think it's

because they hate so tell me please what

do you understand

bro what do you understand about way

good culture please educate it on me I'm

really interested in that so what part

of part of it wait are you out there and

you talked for five minutes which part

do you want me to respond to the fact

that you don't think that they're uh

genocide in them because there's

multiple different uh ethnic groups like

I can explain why I think that they're

doing the uyghur genocide right now uh

is because primarily because there is a

uh a lot of people in xinjiang that are

uh

I I'm I'm sorry I'm I will be not able

to catch the intricacies because I do

not speak Mandarin I will try to do my

best but you are an authority on the

subject right right

am I doing it right

you don't have to pronounce it perfectly

so are we gonna stop me every time I say

the word or can I explain further

yeah go ahead go okay so in xinjiang

when we look at what they are uh what

what reasons why they might be doing

this well primarily the Belton Road

initiative is going through xinjiang I

think that's the primary reason and

there are people in xinjiang that are a

little bit more insurrectionist or

they're I mean it seems like there was

at one point a uh

a terrorist movement there it didn't

seem like it was uh even by other

countries standards

um because lots of countries have

information and Intelligence on all

kinds of different uh Islamic groups

that are going around and like blowing

stuff up right they're they're numbers

that they had wait hold on I think

that's the primary reason right

go ahead yeah sorry

so because that's what comrades selected

was trying to address but you call them

both what he was trying to give you a

historical context as to he's too

emotional when he does it you tell me

about it

so

I'm gonna elaborate on what comment

selected which was trying to see no

Soviet splits our government actually

was training armed grouped like armed

wages minority

near the xinjiang and Russia borders

because they want to like undermine like

Soviet group and they want to introduce

instability so but that turns out that

shit actually come by them into US

during like the 21st the clock turn 21st

century because those those armed groups

are turned out to become Islamic

extremists that's why there's like

wiggers in Guantanamo Bay because those

fighter groups have like shit yeah that

sounds a lot like what the US had happen

right yeah we didn't do throw every

Muslim in our fucking country into

fucking camps and re-educate them they

didn't do that

um

of 12 million so there's hardly even any

Muslims okay is it a genocide sinners

now it's not the genocide they all

graduate okay it's not a genocide then

what is it

Dave am I was in like were they

mistreated it's a massive arrest it's

Master risk into two fights with people

yeah terrorism which has died down

because the the their measures were so

effective that it's died down and

they've gone off to fucking East turkmen

or uh their uh in Pakistan the ter

um what's the name of the fucking region

that they want to call it

um the that Islamic group fled to

Pakistan because the uh efforts were so

effective

in China so now they're just locking up

all the innocent people and trying to

make sure that they don't also go that

way which I think is probably just going

to make them angrier in the long run it

seems no seems to me like it would be

better if they just you know you know

those were nice to them

the street like Mass popular there's 360

something of them don't say there's

three yeah

was there mistreatment drawing the

person

yes am I I might stand for like mass

arrest because in the effort for the

radicalize and trying to combat

terrorism no I'm not I'm not for that I

think when they're doing that when

they're heavy-handedly doing that there

obviously is

like what you white liberals Chrome like

human rights violation when it comes to

you like

no I don't believe

this is such a liberal tank I don't

believe a god-given right right

I think that they're things that we all

accept that we shouldn't do to others

the only whites accept it only white

that's such a bullshit well if only well

hold on do you think that only white uh

countries believe in the idea of not

like fucking killing or wrecking each

other so Chinese I think that not being

killed or raped is a human rights

that inform the human rights here do you

like racial leninism do you believe for

all people and Chinese culture or in

Chinese cultures I just want to know if

you if you believe that there are some

rights that all humans should be

afforded I'm trying to get to my points

I believe a body of governments should

like have a basics so the material

condition and rights for its citizen but

I don't believe like if you just exist

as an organisms

Jay I don't mean to cut you off but this

is uh kind of urgent uh sanso I was just

given evidence of someone in your chat

uh can you go on my stream and see uh

what this person Joe Lewis just said in

your chat show her what a dick looks

like and you're saying you don't know

where these dicks are coming from

where is it it's right here I'm showing

it on screen this is directly from here

trying to pull up i i x out the twitch

tab one second

twitch loading

well he's a streamer

okay if it's Joe Lewis if you want to

talk to him well he's in your chat

actually talking to your community so I

think it's pretty clear where this stuff

is coming from it's from you

so we we basically just proved it

basically but uh okay so someone someone

in my chat said what now Joe Lewis said

what show her what a dick looks like

sure what what looks like

me I think you you know what's going on

here sansol I have direct evidence of it

right here it's right from your chat and

if you want me to sure you know zoom out

here's bones of Doom also in your chat

there's you this is your chat

um I'm just emphasizing it here so

people can see it

this is a guy in your chat sounds like

people are planning on sounds like

there's a lot of brigading that's being

organized on your chat well where is the

forgetting because I see a show her what

a dicks looks like can you show me the

uh

the brigading part now well yeah it

happened earlier in the Stream when a

bunch of people coincidentally started

spamming penises in uh text format

and before it was swastikas so where is

this coming from

so you just got here sometimes

you don't want to deny

uh I I am disavowing any fucking penises

I didn't tell anyone to put penises

towards me is this what I should be

getting because I'm just trying to tell

my story and I never this is what your

community is saying about a woman

speaking for no reason at all just

because she's a woman you don't think

this is a well I think that they should

I think that she should shut the fuck up

because she's wrong

just in the same way that I think so

wait wait it's you so someone in your

community is saying show her what a dick

looks like you don't think there's

anything vile and disgusting yeah I I

lit I said that's pretty fucked up and

that he shouldn't do that so what are

you gonna do about it are they are they

still welcome in your chat or is this

how your community is organized just so

we can get it on record

well I'll type in right now slash b-a-n

at Joe Lewis

and send

okay son Soul band Joe Lewis

is there any other one that uh you can

show me that is organizing bargaining

because I'll abandon

um

nope uh oh so you're relying not yet but

that's the one we have right now with

concrete evidence of your community

trying to organize

um okay yeah well I mean we'll go you

can go back through my VOD and you can

uh find me where I told people to go and

uh

Mr Judo send it to me their mod is also

doing it

where's that

this is Bones of Doom right now

he's not doing anything

oh wait and and an Infinity your mod

join and do it this is your mod right

here look on my stream this is your mod

and he's replying to Joe Lewis join and

do it

join and do it this is the second time

you've done this before it was with

swastikas now you're trying to do it

with this

this is direct evidence dude can someone

clip this for fuck's sake it's never

been caught so Raw

wow

because so raw like all of how how raw

all of y'all's assholes are at the fact

that China is doing something stop

trying to Pivot dude I interviewed me

because this is an urgent matter oh I'm

sorry

wait wait wait no no guys everyone stop

I need to get to the bottom of this

sansol this is your mod this is your mod

I I just banned him buddy your own mod

yes I just banned him your mod as well

my ma yes my mod as well scroll down

even more

is there anything else listen buddy I

don't care I don't give a fuck about

anyone in my community I'll fucking ban

people if they do like the slightest

thing oh it sounds like you don't have

everything but a lot of questionable

people are in your community first

there's first they're spamming swastikos

to first of all we talk about China

again wait wait we're gonna return to

the subject we're gonna return to the

subject I want you to continue talking

about China because you can't defend it

you've been pulling people in well

that's your interpretation of the events

you know you know that China well one

thing I think it's pretty unethical of

you to bring in all these people from

China which you know they're all every

single one of these motherfuckers is on

a list now you put every single one of

these motherfuckers wait check the

bottom of the chat

no wait I'm sorry wait wait

stop

you said Joe DM me you just you saw his

comment you said Joe DM me look at this

sansol Joe DM me yeah about what DM

about what

because he was telling me to go nuclear

what does that mean what does that mean

go nuclear he wants me to go hard on you

guys and what does that mean because he

said show her what a dicks looks like

Infinity said join and do it and Sansa

said Joe DME someone please clip this

please clip this

dude you're caught I just caught you

anyone in this chat you're slapping

anything that you're sloppy I'm sloppy

yeah just like all of the fucking all of

the fucking uh Chinese well on the

subject of China listen on the subject

of China you already got fucked this is

something separate all right this is

something separate you already got

fucked on China but what is this dude

you just got caught red-handed like this

is direct am I going crazy or something

could someone clip this you you were

crazy what is up with this guy dude this

is the second time he's been trying to

do this first it was with a swastika oh

so the first time your eyes you you

didn't see it right it was just a

mistake is this a mistake as well

uh I saw that one but I wasn't going to

show her my dick so I ignored it

listen you saw this right now no one

said you're gonna show your dick people

were spamming penises in my chat

and this guy Joe lose say show her what

a dick looks like Infinity said join and

do it and Sansa said Joe DM me what does

that even mean

you're trying are you gonna try to worm

your way out of this one too hard on you

guys are you gonna try to worm your way

out of this one too is this also a

coincidence that was pertinent to us

talking about wait is this also

coincidence listen talk to him Dylan

Burns is a reputable figure I want

someone to send this to Dylan Burns

Dylan Burns do you allow this this is

the second time your friend sanso has

done this and this is direct evidence of

him doing this kind of shit Dylan Burns

I want you to I want to know what you

have to say about this because he's

Dylan Burns is partnered and he's a

reputable guy on the platform supposedly

and I want to know how far this goes

this is so fucking weird dude what is

wrong with you you're fucking deranged

honest to God you're deranged

like you you you you caught you got

caught red-handed dude in my back you

got caught red-handed dude you got

caught red-handed yeah you want to

harass my partner

what's up with that

I saw this is there a new person in here

now sorry I my internet disconnected

again JJ got disconnected he needs to

come back in but which one no quiet guy

or your your your little friend your

little friend I still have a screenshot

I went to the uh I went to the one of

the chats I saw the screenshot

and okay

so your little friend and and then you

said oh Joe DM me what's that all about

well I've never already explained this

multiple times I mean if you don't have

ears then you don't have ears what did

you explain dude look at the screenshot

are you gonna explain this away too this

is this is literally the same kind of

fucking Inquisition baby boy shit that

people do on fucking Twitter all right

how do this is direct everything

this is direct evidence am I crazy this

is woke's gold shit I didn't think that

you were you were into this like left

song It's Not woke's Gold shit it's

direct evidence it's direct evidence

yeah it's direct evidence oh you come

from well according to people in my chat

right now you're taking people out of

context and they earlier so show

receipts show the full receipts so we

can know the context

um let me see if I can even scroll up

that far because of stream elements let

me see oops

grab my show her what a jink looks like

Joe DM me and you said but you just said

he wanted you to go Nuclear So what does

it mean to go into clear Sansa can we

invite have you never heard the the

phrase go nuclear yeah but it sounds

like going nuclear means showing

something TOs

S no that's not what's going on that's

what it sounds like to me actually

yeah because that's what you did last

time but you've done it before you did

it once before yeah exactly you've done

it before how is this a mistake yeah

I mean I mean we can we can sit here and

we can continue

and circle jerk about this or we can

you're trying to worm your way out of

this dude we caught you ready I'm

warming my way out of anything yes you

are dude dude I want you just to admit

you guys want to sit there and hear you

repeat the same thing over and over like

you did when you got your ass blown out

dude how do you how do you how are you

how do you have no shame when we just

caught you red-handed and you're still

lying I have zero fucking shit you're

still lying about literally everything

out of anything we just caught you right

hand here baby we caught you

right-handed I'm right here I'm talking

to you still can someone please send

this to Dylan Burns Dylan Burns yeah

Dylan Burns in here fuck it I don't give

a fuck no no send this to him because we

caught you this in a second time I want

to see if he condones this behavior of

doing TOS shit really TOA shit yeah sure

yeah

also you want an example of leftist

arrangement this is an example of it

this is exactly what I talked about I

can hear this conversation this is to

see what derangement is but you just got

railed on the topic of China but this is

something separate now oh I'm red I've

been railed well you you did though I

mean you did

it was it was

Chinese

wasn't good enough for them I really it

really is quite a shame can you imagine

moving from Texas we have things like

the rodeo good fucking barbecue

um

I Heard Ku Klux Klan I heard during the

winter and all of it is just fucking

cope

guys this is really serious though

honest to God this is fucking serious

what do we have right now this is super

fucking serious dude I dude Sansa part

of me suspected like was did he really

plan that shit with the swastika maybe

there's a one percent chance he didn't

dude you got caught red-handed dude red

fucking handed right here

like how do you even deny this how do

you deny it please tell me

oh

and if you're gonna deny this why should

anyone care about anything you have to

say start over okay I'm asking you how

do you even deny this right here that I

have in front of you how do you deny I'm

not denying it I've been sitting here

owning it and you won't shut the fuck up

about it I'm owning every single you're

owning your your violation of TOS you

caught a screen cap out of context on

the fucking okay please give me the

evidence give me the evidence and

context then I scrolled up I can't go

any farther than I then ask your mods to

check the box residue ask your mom to

check the VOD the VOD saves comments

then I then my mods hey boys my friends

you guys can go and uh check the VOD for

me show us receipts

show us receipts my friends

can you believe this shit chat can you

believe this shit I'm actually so I'm

actually so upset right now because I'm

not upset I'm just surprised he has

penises and I think they're actually

comments

and I'm gonna do all these different

things

why are you talking about liberal ID

pool and we're talking about you trying

to get us banned through dirty tricks

doing TOS shit you literally can't get

banned because someone else comes into

your stream and posts fucking like

that's what happened last time but

that's actually what happened last

literally not what happened last yes it

is we got banned for hate symbols and I

can I have receipts of twitch's

reasoning for Banning us yeah and it was

for them from your chat after they post

a hate symbol no it wasn't from my chat

it was from the Discord which you posted

wait was the penis in chat or was it in

fucking chat this swastiko was on

display through the Discord chat that

you invited right yeah because because

you had the fucking Discord up on screen

yes what were you talking about right

now we're talking about dicks are we

talking about last time but spamming the

chat with you

that's all you can talk about

but dude I'm not being paranoid this is

a completely reason of like this is

direct evidence am I crazy chat like I

mean you are you are crazy oh Joe said a

real dick Joe Mentor real dick so you

wanted to show a real dick on stream

yeah

uh I don't think that's at all what I

said my friend why did you tell him to

DM you go back why did your mod say join

and do it why did your mom say join into

it I can't say that it's wrong right you

say that it's wrong that Joe threatened

my uh my colleague over here my my

partner and our

our Collective

um we're red comrades in China okay and

uh we're two founding members of this

Collective

Langley

I can't hear you

do you do it for free why are you it's

it's sexual harassment too isn't that

sexual harassment to turn up the fucking

mic no to send dicks to women

unsolicited on Twitch it's fucking

sexual harassment yes why are your mods

advocating for sexual harassment

well you're afraid you can make as many

fucking claims as you want that doesn't

make mean that they are true but what

did Infinity say join and do it that one

he directly responded show her what a

dick looks like and your mod said join

into it you said you banned them for

that reason but you're I scrolled down

and then you said Joe DM me you just

banned those I literally it's I I but

you banned them you said you just say

the exact same thing it's over and over

and over he told me to go nuclear he

told me to uh sure what a dick looks

like and he's dming me right now he's

talking about like you know when you

call someone a dick that's what he's

talking about but you know so you said

show her what a dick looks like means

call her a dick

no that's not wait okay do you want me

to repeat it

yeah repeat it go ahead I'm confused

okay so you have you ever called someone

a dick because they're acting like you

know an asshole

okay

that's that's what he that's what he's

saying that that meant

shows like

well I mean so you're basically saying

like a lot of content

there's lots of things that we that

people pulled out of context on you and

I didn't show on my stream because it

made you sound even more fascist than

you actually are all right

and then I haven't shown on stream

because it would have made you look like

a dick you're still talking about

fascism you think we actually care about

that you think we're actually oh yeah

dude

dude you literally say stuff and they'll

have no idea of what they're what you're

talking about like you didn't even know

what a nozzle was you didn't even know

that until the stream you literally

didn't even know that you were imitating

a meme

do you guys have any final memes

anything final you want to say you're a

disgusting human being

who's next I know there's other people

that want to say something infrared you

got something mean to say

um you're a weasel dude we caught you

red hands I mean weasel who's next Jay

go ahead

there's absolutely nothing I can't say

to you like you can't say anything to me

it's true you go you say I mean like me

you don't even have a modesty of good

face like you're not acting emotional I

don't think I keep acting good faith

with people that are fascists I don't

think that you guys are like capable of

it I think that there's something

there's something about fascists that

they can't actually uh think correctly

or they don't have the world view or the

self um uh the self-critique to

understand that they're you know

literally

you don't know what the word fascism

will probably hop out but you don't know

what the word means you don't even know

why shouldn't care what you think about

it

yeah yeah yeah all right it's true if

you got anything mean to say or am I

hopping out

yeah I do have some things to say and I

hope you can respect me and listen and

hear me can you do that or something

because I'm hopping out oh no no no no

I'm not even gonna I'm not even gonna do

that I I just hope that you know I

wanted to talk more about my experience

because you know people can say oh

that's Chinese propaganda but you know

what nobody I don't think it's Chinese

propaganda I just think that your

experience is worthless in the context

of us talking how could you tell me it's

worthless I literally work in the

education sector in China

I literally work in the education sector

and actually actually your moderator

says I know nothing about policy I love

you but I study politics

policy for one year I pray for you that

you all please don't please don't do

that I don't need that I just really

hope I just really hope that when people

confront you with different with

different terms and different situations

okay he's gone