The Ruling Class's 2024 Strategy ft. Daniel Burke

thank you geoff harvey appreciate you

man

appreciate you

thank you so much

uh everybody who hasn't liked the stream

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gonna burn you

okay

so

today

uh i got two hours of sleep

and it is my fault because i was

procrastinating at the gym

uh but it is also not my fault because

to go get dinner after the gym i drove

to mcdonald's they were closed it was

raining and it was not gonna it's not a

good time it was a really bad time

so you know i was not i haven't been

having a good day honestly i've been

i've been tired as fuck i've been

exhausted i haven't been able to get a

lot of work done

because i've just been so

fucking exhausted right

i've been trying though right

uh but i mainly just been staring at my

uh laptop screen

and i barely got anything done in terms

of writing or anything like that right

and also i completely forgot

about the fucking podcast

so here's what i'm gonna do

today's patreon thing

sorry this week's patreon stuff if i

postpone it to tomorrow which is

thursday

you know i'm gonna get get off course so

i'm just gonna after i talk to daniel

burke

i'm gonna just read them out on stream

unless someone has any objections and

you would just prefer it

that i would wait till tomorrow that's

fine but uh i just think i've it's been

too long i i've been postponing it way

too long right and it's not on purpose

just because i've been forgetting right

and and been forgetting because i didn't

get any sleep i was supposed to do it

today so let's do it yesterday i got off

track

okay

in other nudes

uh

there's a few things actually so some

other news is that

uh garland nixon has come out and said

that his super chat figure has been

disabled his super chat feature

was disabled

um

which is really scary right and the

reason it was disabled was because he

had scott ritter on and they were

talking about the ukraine war

so it looks like i we're not gonna

really even be able to cover the russia

stuff on youtube and it's a good thing i

don't really cover the russia stuff in

the first place but um

yeah

that's something youtube's deciding to

start doing and it's really fucked up

right

so far he's the only one who's reported

this and who's talked about this so i i

hope it's it's an isolated incident or

something like that

but yeah youtube seems to be stepping i

mean they used to demonetize videos

uh that denied whatever

and by demonetized just can't get ad

revenue but then they're disabling super

chats too it's kind of fucked up right

but geoff harvey thank you so much for

the 40

gifted memberships i appreciate you man

thank you so much thank you so so much

um

appreciate you a ton man

uh thank you jennar speaking the devil

so our super chats still work

right

as proven by jnr but

you know uh it is what it is and another

thing i wanted to get to

oh yeah this weekend

so something weird is happening right

so

modern day debate got back to us and it

turns out that adam soything's debate

partner

is gonna be destiny okay so we are going

to be debating destiny again on saturday

thank you jenna

such freedom of speech yeah the thing is

i'm gonna have to let modern day debate

know about the whole demonetization

thing to see if there's anything we

could do about that

you know if we can't if if war crimes

are gonna get us demonetized and talking

about them

and questioning them in any capacity

then we can't fucking debate about them

because there's no freedom of speech to

debate about it in the first place so

like

you know i mean that's like the complete

elimination of uh the possibility of a

debate

if you're gonna if it's gonna be

restricted right

so yeah you know you can't make a

fucking living if if you're going to

tell the truth i mean who no one's going

to even be able to know who's right or

wrong because

too bad it's censored anyway right

so yeah it's this saturday it's actually

this saturday

i

wanted to make a thumbnail for it today

and schedule it i literally had no

energy

i am like knocked out i had two hours of

sleep i'm so fucking tired and i'm like

the only person i know who gets this

tired why does everyone else like oh

yeah i got one hour sleep i'm fine

i'm the only person who uses like 100 of

my brain power and energy 24 7. every

waking moment

that i'm uh

on this earth

i am thinking every waking moment i'm

concentrating and i'm focusing and i'm

using my mental brain power and energy

and all these like dumb fucking people

are pretty much like

i i need like 10 hours of sleep i swear

to god i really need fucking sleep i

really need sleep right

but yeah that's besides the point

that's besides the point

no i don't drink coffee when i can't

when i don't get enough sleep

i literally feel like i just got knocked

out i literally feel like i just got

knocked out it even hurts to have my

eyes open right and it's like

it's such a fucking shitty feeling

it's such a shitty feeling right

um i don't when i when i don't get

enough sleep i don't even want to be

on earth i don't even want to exist

it's so bad i hate it so fucking much

every waking moment that i haven't

gotten nine hours of sleep i literally

have a boiling resentment and hatred for

life

every single waking moment that i didn't

get enough sleep on i fucking hate life

i cannot appreciate life and i become an

atheist when i don't get eight hours of

sleep a day i literally become an

atheist and i'm like there's no meaning

on earth there's clearly no god this is

all just suffering and pain it's the

worst fuck everything and fuck life and

i joined an emo band and become a

fucking satanic nihilist okay

and then when i get nine hours of sleep

and i wake up i'm like

spring meadows and it's a beautiful day

and everything's so beautiful i'm so

grateful for my creator and so great and

then when i yeah so it's just the thin

line between sleep right

you know let me uh let me i have a mucus

dried mucus in my nose right here and it

makes it hard to talk and it's just

living there without paying rent so i

have to go pick it out with the tissue

i'll be right back okay

i just evicted him he just got evicted

like the connelly house is about to get

evicted

conoley house is getting evicted

tomorrow i'm pretty sure so i read and

we're going to cover this tomorrow if it

happens but i read

that

there's a court order

sorry not not only the quarter they're

going to actually arrest them tomorrow

out of the connelly house they're

getting arrested and wait wait watch

them go and cry to the world

yeah who could have saw this coming dude

we like what did you think was gonna

fucking happen

what the fuck did you think was gonna

happen

it's like that's the most predictable

ending ever like did you think you

weren't gonna get arrested do you think

he's just gonna you know it's so stupid

what did you fucking think would happen

that was the most predictable ending of

that whole sago that i could have ever

imagined

all right

without any further ado

i don't have much else to talk about

uh as far as like my day is concerned

but without any further dilly dallying

oh he's already in so cute beautiful all

right

so there's two people i'm gonna bring on

i'm gonna bring on well first i'm gonna

bring on daniel burke then i'm gonna

bring on pesto mine because

um i don't want it to be too chaotic

right

sorry to best of mine but i just i'm

gonna bring you on not like separately

but like when we start talking about

what's going on in new york because

pesto mime's actually going to talk

about some of the republican populist

candidates that are running in new york

right but i'm going to drag him in when

we get to that part right because i just

don't want it to be chaotic

um

thank you so much lewis from hyrule and

yes i did see uh hakeem's anti-russia

video

and let me just say one last thing about

that in particular

um regarding hakeem's thing about his

video

can you react to hakeem's anti-russia

video it was so bad lol cheers from

seattle thank you so much one thing i'm

going to say before i get in uh

daniel burke i want to keep him waiting

but

what a coward hakeem is right

you notice me caleb jackson were the

only ones who get banned and censored

and shit all these mls conveniently

assume the political position that just

so happens to be allowed on big tech you

ever notice that

what a fucking coward yeah go ahead and

attack russia at this time

i mean it's just so blatantly obvious

who the real anti-imperialists who the

real communists and who the real marxist

leninists are

if you can't see that by now i don't

know what the fuck to tell you i don't

know what the fuck to tell you that we

are the real anti-imperialist we are the

real marxist leninists

i don't know what else to show like what

else do you need to see it's so

blatantly fucking obvious right

the thing with that confuses people

about me it's just like i'm like this

dark maoist right i'm like a um

i'm a

sinnoh pakistani tamerlane

type of like mongol

deep dark maoist

that took mao's side during the

sino-soviet split and like drew it to

its conclusion

and you know we were against the soviet

managerial class and it confused a lot

of people makes them think we're

reactionary but i'm actually a dark

maoist but anyway um

yeah let's uh drag in

daniel burke

hey how you doing man sorry for keeping

you waiting no no i'm good good to see

you

yeah youtube so we um so chad me and

daniel burke i haven't been doing much

work on my part but we've been kind of

dming and exchanging stuff

about

a certain political faction and actor

that we wanted to study and research

and

daniel is gonna

kind of talk a little bit about that

right yeah because we've been kind of

like you know

we've seen with elon musk's twitter

acquisition and all these different

political changes happening in america

we just want a clear idea of what on

earth is going on right so daniel is

actually

and the schiller institute they've done

a lot of research and studying about

some of it already so

let's probably get into that stuff you

wanted to

report on yeah

yeah okay sure well all right

i think that

the way to conceptualize what we're

dealing with is that

peter thiel

um

he's like the

the the expression today of what

eisenhower warned about in terms of the

military-industrial complex

he is a soulless individual

who

has completely rejected the republic uh

the idea of the general welfare and

uh you know the belief in that we could

have an ever more perfect union that we

can improve ourselves so we can

uh you know fulfill the principles of

the constitution

um especially this idea of general

welfare

he is an

uh

involved in an operation right now which

i think is really

usefully

developed if you look at the case of

this guy jd vance

so vance won the ohio primary as a

republican

right in the republican primary that is

and uh

vance

worked for teal

he was the uh

an employee of mithril capital because

you know probably that peter thiel is

completely obsessed with

with uh gold

yeah exactly he read he read the trilogy

the the

lord of the rings like ten times and he

named all his companies off of it anyway

so vance worked for them and also this

guy masters jd masters who's running for

for senate as well

um

and

vance's

basically political

attitude

uh his his operation

is he's being pushed by these people

like teal

who from the beginning intervened to

cause

the trump administration to be

anti-china despite trump's previous

intentions or his at least his

inclinations and his potential

because trump said that a good

relationship with china is good

he went to the great hall of the people

he sat down with xi jinping he said

if the u.s and china work together then

um we can solve

most of know all of the problems in the

world that's what trump said at the

green hall of the people

but trump was massively operated on

besides being a small mind and a small

heart and a small soul

which is uh disgusting frankly

uh and uh part of this was peter thiel

who from the beginning

was working in conjunction with steve

bannon

to try to cause a

a uh emotion towards the british

intelligence goal which is

uh

decoupling of the united states from

china

they're trying to decouple the u.s

economy from china that's always been

the point

uh which is really a way of attempting

to sort of divide the world

it would lead to massive economic

collapse of the entire world

there's no possibility of this ever

happening without that kind of disaster

and it's based on a sort of a

um

just perverse notion of the nature of

human nature

uh and uh

anyway it's absolutely horrifying and

terrifying right now because what

they're doing

is they're claiming and it may be true

their their political judgment is that

vance won for two basic reasons

one is that he was

able to get trump's endorsement because

trump has absolutely no principles and

he's an idiot and he should be

completely condemned

um

but the second point

is that

they what they claim steve cortez who

worked for the trump campaign came out

he wrote an article

in um

one of these uh one of these

conservative websites or trump trumpy

websites

and uh the the article says

the advanced one because he opposed a

no-fly zone over

ukraine

and that therefore vance was the one who

had the

appropriate

political positioning in opposing the

war in ukraine

so vance vance said something like um

uh like i gotta tell you i don't give a

damn what happens to ukraine

i gotta be honest with you i don't

really care what happens with ukraine i

do care about the fact that in my

community right now the leading cause of

death among 18 to 45 year olds is

mexican fentanyl

so they're positioning themselves from

this populist right angle which is to

say you're supposed to be anti-war

this is the trump you know effect they

saw that this people saw that this

worked

and then you're supposed to be like

worried about family

and supposedly they worry about drug

drug overdoses which is a lie they don't

really care at all

that's my view

and what they

but what the point is that vance

is merely

operating according to the teal bannon

playbook

which is to claim

that we shouldn't have the war against

russia because we should have a war

against china and we should prepare for

war against china if you go to war room

pandemic

which

you know when when bannon started it

this is like the leading podcast in the

country certainly among uh conservatives

so-called

republicans

um

the whole discussion right now

is about preparing for war with china

right now like even even after the war

in ukraine and stuff

yeah the uh they had a guy on who's the

head of the committee for present danger

which is a

old thing goes back 20 years neocon

operation but bannon revived it

um they had the head of this thing on

just yesterday i was looking at their

website talking about how

uh china is preparing for war on taiwan

and we have to decide what we're ready

to do and we absolutely have to focus on

decoupling from china

so this is the antithesis of what would

actually function which is the u.s

collaborating with china on the belt and

road initiative

collaborating to extend the belt and

road to world land bridge

collaborating to solve the you know the

hunger crisis the food crisis which is

threatening two billion people with food

and security right now

one quarter of the world population is

dealing with that and

rapidly this can turn into

hunger and then starvation uh outright

death from lack of food

uh which is uh you know nine million

people died of famine yeah

so

i so what i'm interested in knowing is

that uh

do the connections

as far as the bannon and it all goes

back to peter thiel i guess

does does that go towards the department

of defense or is it just purely private

because you know peter thiel his company

palin's here it's a it's a privatized

military contractor and i know they're

friends with

eric prince from blackwater which is

also another private uh military company

are there actual

do they have some kind of support from

the military deep state that's the

public military or

where where is their real um allegiance

or

what is their real connection to as far

as the international ruling class

well there's

i think there's

more to be investigated there i think

that's a good

research question but if you look at

palantir

it's founded in 2003

and the whole purpose is to assist u.s

intelligence agencies with

counterterrorism operations

that's the that's the stated intention

of the firm

uh in the last year they were involved

in a

really failed effort to do

medical

data tracking

as part of the pandemic or maybe it was

two years ago

they were involved in this really

disastrous effort because

it didn't successfully get

the the information to the popul to the

uh to the hospitals that needed it and

then to the cdc and so forth

uh and they were just sort of sucking up

people's medical info and not

necessarily uh using it

in you know any kind of way with privacy

uh and then last week palantir came out

with another company called trafigura

to say that they're going to make a new

effort to track carbon emissions

for oil gas refined metals and the

concentrates sector including british

petroleum

so

i mean you could look at it from that

perspective

that uh i don't it's a really good

question in terms of what does the dod

have to say about this how does that

operate specifically

uh but it's clear from their activities

what they're focused on

and then if you look at bannon there's a

very specific relationship

which is that he is one of um like five

members of a board maybe six

of the um

institute for human dignity

which is a really disgusting sounding

you know institute

and uh group and it's

and that is something

where

like the worst european oligarchs are on

on that

board

including otto von hopsberg who's the

heir to the hopsburg the defunct

habsburg throne so

about that in particular what what is he

up to as far as uh is he just is this

this like wealth from that

hobbsburg era or is he involved in some

kind of uh business or what what as far

as like economic power what what does

that really represent right now

well bannon has been like wall street

connected for a very long time

and then he takes this sort of um

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you know populist stance against wall

street to try to gain traction

but he has a history with

i believe goldman sachs

and

he um

he's connected to

miles guac people probably know

the chinese billionaire

who

you know and they've been

totally allied with the

well with many other operations

but

i couldn't tell you directly

where he stands to gain personally from

this

other than

i think that he's one of these i'm sure

there are many places that he's gaining

a ton of money

but he has a sort of a psychotic

ideology in my view

and he's committed to the uh the

this

notion that we need to decouple from

china

and um

you know i think that's another place to

continue to investigate we me there may

even stuff that i haven't read that

we've already published on that

but i understand that he's like he's

he's got an occultist tendency

theosophist uh bannon

yeah

i did not know that what what uh

this comes out of an interview it's not

exactly theos there's some branch

but it comes out of an interview that he

that was done with a guy named benjamin

teenelbaum

um so he's got some kind of

very unusual

approach to things i i'm not really i'm

not really sure it's more to investigate

but i can tell you that

i i read an article that you know just

to return to teal a little bit more

um that i really recommend people read

which is in vanity fair

and it's called what is it called

it's called what peter thiel jd vance

and uh curtis yarvin

something like is that it yeah yeah no

whatever inside the new right where

peter thiel is placing his biggest pets

that's the type i read some of that

article i didn't read the whole thing

i recommend it

because i think that

what you pick up

i mean people

may probably know something about yarvin

like you can go on

youtube and if you look up yarvin

american revolution you immediately get

this

12-minute segment

where he says

what's amazing about debunking the

american revolution debunking the

american revolution is that now in 2020

nobody actually gives a shit about it

you can basically go to a bar and be

like man the british were right and we

should still be under king george

king george iii and people are going to

say oh yeah that's pretty cool

so he has an overt position

about the american revolution

um

he says that that is completely

insane

he says the american revolution is the

vietnam war of the 18th century which i

really don't understand what he means by

that

but he he's basically i guess i i guess

i do he's claiming that there's it's a

civil conflict between two factions

and then he calls the u.s constitution a

reactionary coup

that replaces democracy with oligarchy

so the thing that constitution

yeah the us constitution is that is that

because of um

is that because like yeah i heard that

idea too that the constitution was made

to kind of curtail

the more

royal

not royalistic but like um

curtail these tendencies of the

executive branch which which were more

kind of democratic and representing the

people like directly through the

washington

something like well what i understand

he's where he's coming from is that see

in the articles of confederation you did

not have

a strong executive which was capable or

a

general welfare clause which is really

the point

alexander hamilton and his associates

fought

for

the general welfare class like governor

morris for example

and

that is in the preamble as the stated

purpose of the us constitution and that

therefore all powers that are

uh that that might be required to

fulfill that can be understood to be uh

implied

in the us constitution which is a major

argument that hamilton makes for the

national bank

so what jarvan is saying is that he

would prefer that we were under the

articles of confederation

which is a lot closer to the confederacy

he's basically a confederate

and uh he's

he uses the words democracy and

oligarchy but he never uses the word

republic

you know like of the people by the

people for the people so

if i get this correctly in the articles

of confederation you kind of have a

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i guess a less centralized power to be

wielded for the welfare of the people is

that how you would put it

yes definitely

yeah i see i i just don't see how it

follows i didn't read it so i can't um

speak for him but i i just don't see how

it follows then that the

constitution makes things more

oligarchic when it's it seems like

in a more confederate system

you know since it's decentralized to

these various different powers then it

would be more oligarchic right

i think you're right because of course

the point is that

you can't defeat you can't rest you

can't

you can't fulfill the united states as a

nation

uh as a republic

without the power to defeat the british

empire and to hold them back and to

actually have

a sovereign economy and you can't have a

sovereign economy for the union

if you're dealing with everything on the

basis of the states

you have to have a unified action

uh um that is uh you know not not based

on

how the interests conflict of the

different states but as in is based on

the the unifying power

um so he would prefer basically that

i mean if in his alternate universe what

happens i'm sure is that the british

regain power bannon is based in ac with

allies

i'm sorry uh when i get a chance i'm

going to replay your uh donation

but thank you so much for the the 20

appreciate it i'm going to put a pause

on them right now but thank you so much

man sorry uh can you repeat that that

there was a sure yeah i i was just

saying that i mean i think if you look

at

yarvin yarvin is calling for he's

famously calling for or basically

calling for an american caesar

and jd vance who's a friend of your

events

your and yarvin has a lot of operations

going on in new york city they're being

financed by peter thiel

but jd vance

says

what we should do

is

uh

fire it when when trump is going to run

again in 2024

he should fire every single mid-level

bureaucrat every civil servant in the

administrative state and replace them

with our people and when the courts stop

you this is direct quote stand before

the country and say

this is a quotation from andrew jackson

the chief justice has made his ruling

now let him enforce it

so in other words he's saying that we

need a

uh a total

uh overthrow of the government by forces

friendly to our interests

and then we should challenge anyone to

stop us

if you make a ruling against us

so be it

which means the overturn of checks and

balances it means the the complete

elevation of the executive branch to a

dictatorship

now

to play the devil's advocate um

uh

don't you think though that we do kind

of

don't you kind of see though that there

is kind of a connection between this

kind of managerial state

this administrative bureaucracy and the

kind of you know the kind of corrupt

oligarchy and special interests because

i'm kind of reminded and i wonder what

your thoughts are this honor it's like

in the case of russia you did have an

oligarchy that ruled under the veneer of

this like you know democratic state

and then putin came and he he was kind

of seen as like a caesar

who's wielding his quote unquote you

know they're calling this in the west

dictatorial power

in order to curb the oligarch so don't

you think there's kind of this

tendency for strong leaders to conflict

with uh

oligarchies

i think you're raising an important

question because it's obvious that a lot

of people have been seduced by that

thought

and therefore they do think that we need

some kind of a dictator step in

but look at their reference points

and you'll recognize that these are

people

who are so completely amoral

that they do not have

any compunction to advance anything for

the general welfare

and that's the reference to andrew

jackson who destroyed the national bank

who revoked the charter of the national

bank

uh and uh through and basically abused

the power of the executive office of the

executive branch in order to

uh in order to do what in order to mass

kill indians

in order to de-industrialize

uh the young republic which is what

happened we have 30 years of economic

degradation and then the civil war after

that

so the fact that these guys are

thinking in that way are referencing

that uh and the fact that they have such

a uh vicious anti-china outlook

is an indication of what they intend i

don't think that

i don't think that it's possible

for people to um imagine i mean i think

it's possible to imagine that there's

going to be some kind of a

dictatorship for the good in the united

states i see a lot of people who think

in this kind of way

but they're missing the whole

issue which is that the u.s constitution

begins with the general welfare cloth

it has the commitment to the benefit of

the population

and uh you know people like teal are

trying to tear that down he specifically

attacks this notion uh or the notion

from of of life liberty and the pursuit

of happiness and he misattributes it to

life excuse me to lock

lock whose real commitment was to life

liberty and

uh and property

you know locke was heavily this was

locke's ideas were adopted by the

confederacy

the sacred quality of property

uh he

continued no go ahead i was gonna ask

does peter thiel explicitly reject this

um

this life liberty and the pursuit of

happiness

what he does is he takes you can read he

wrote he there's a paper that he wrote

called

the straussian moment because he comes

out of the stanford university circles

where he's trained by

basically by straussian's he represents

a straussian fascist current along with

rene gerard

and what he says in this document the

straussian moment

is that

uh locke

is the real founder of the us

through his essays on

uh on what's it called

uh it escapes me for the moment what the

name of the book is but he that his

his concepts

are the heart of the revolution of the

united states

and this is a

uh a historical fraud

because it is in fact the role of

leibniz

and his circles

in advancing the notion of a

uh of a pursuit of happiness that has to

do with the love of humanity

that

that actually inspired benjamin franklin

to to and his circles to fight for this

idea in the declaration of independence

and that is historically documented so

the fact is that he comes out and he

claims one thing that is a fraud

which is very self-serving

uh namely that

you know that locke was the person who

was really the intellectual founder of

the us

now um

i agree with that by the way about uh

liveness but

what what i would like to say though is

that um don't you think there is now not

understanding this kind of idea of a

dictator which

you know it's it's kind of a kooky idea

but

and i i by the way i don't i don't think

it would be successfully i don't think

they would have i think it would lead to

a civil war right but

what i what i find strange is that

um i think it's kind of like a

of like fantasy

fantasy they're going to be able to take

on

the cia and they're going to be able to

take on

elements of the deep state and whatever

and do this

or there's something more sinister at

hand where this is exactly what they're

planning i mean who knows right but what

i what i really think is that um

don't you think that there is often

times now notwithstanding this stuff

about a dictator but don't you know

there is oftentimes this kind of overly

bloated managerial kind of class

and bureaucracy that

under the veneer of a civil society in a

democracy actually only represents

a small minority right of people

to typically um people who are not

you know rule

and

don't you often times

sorry don't you think that oftentimes

when a great leader comes into uh

you know power or acquires significance

like abraham lincoln for example yeah

and oftentimes the charge is that oh

they're a dictator and all they're like

a caesar and they're um you know they're

a tyrant

and this kind of represents this

the oligarch don't you think that

oftentimes great executive leaders

are more democratic because they

represent the will of the people

directly and kind of bypass

oligarchical institutions and classes

i think you're absolutely right i mean

you know i mean

it's obvious there's this deep state

it's obvious that the department of

justice is a permanent i mean look the

fact is that the same person who

prosecuted larouche robert mueller is

the guy who went after trump on russia

same person so how the hell is that the

case because there is a

permanent bureaucracy you're absolutely

right and it is

you know people call it the deep state

but it's a bunch of lousy people

absolutely so yeah that's a problem and

i agree with you also that i mean

obviously lincoln was called a dictator

uh and uh and uh people who people who

take uh i was just at the fdr museum

actually with with pastor mime and

another friend and we saw these uh

cartoons that were made about fdr

calling him a king

you know and stuff like that so people

are going to do anything they can to

pose this so it's really

it's hard you have to go past

appearances and you have to go to a

principal

that's why i keep emphasizing the

general welfare clause because there is

not the principle of the republic

as opposed to a democracy

is that

the the common good is something that is

knowable and that is the responsibility

of every citizen

to work toward and that we create a

society in which the interests of the

individual coincide with the interests

of society

and uh you know to the best that we

possibly can

so

you know that's sort of what i think

there to your prior point i also think

you're on the mark

namely that you know this thing maybe it

is something that they're planning in

terms of a legitimate coup

maybe it is a fantasy

but it coheres completely with the great

reset it coheres completely with meghan

markle coming in and trying to become

u.s president

and that's you know the intention to

just sort of

eliminate

the republic forever

yeah i think there's just this weird

false dialectic that might be going on

and and i have no clue right but

it is strange how i mean you do see it's

not only from the populist or so-called

populist side that they're viewing the

the you know i guess in some sense the

constitution

uh and specifically the power of the

judiciary in the case you mentioned as

an obstacle to getting things done but i

mean that's also what the other side

thinks as well the kind of democrat side

they also see the constitution as an

impediment

you know to be able to

implement their agenda so i wonder if

what's going to happen is that when i

think of the republicans

um i think that

they're kind of more

the rebels right in this case like

maybe peter thiel is just some lone red

rogue billionaire

he's just kind of trying to challenge

the system in his own kind of way

or he's playing into their hand directly

or directly

and

what i think it i i don't i can't see

how the ruling class

would want a trump

kind of dictator right but i could

easily see them prop up meghan markle as

this like figure of reconciliation of

the country i mean she'll you know try

to satisfy what so-called conservatives

want by you know i don't know being this

traditional monarch

um and and having some semblance of

conservative values but also

you know appease the left in some kind

of way

she see it seems like

trump would be you know it seems like if

they tried a coup or something i mean

that

it would it would

lead to some kind of uh civil war right

whereas in the case of meghan markle i

mean that also would probably maybe lead

i think what else what do you think

about this idea that they may try

something crazy just like january 6

and that it's going to be the response

to that by the deep state that gives it

the emergency powers uh necessary to

actually finally and successfully

overthrow the republic basically

you know they'll be like oh you know our

republic's in danger because of trump or

whoever else

so we have to actually suspend the

constitution in order to protect

democracy

i i actually do think that that's pretty

likely

i mean

but although i would say that

look

i went through the bush gore election

and uh

bush jr

george w

was evil stupid and evil tool of dick

cheney pool of fascism tool of mass

murder

and um

al gore is evil

al gore actually has a lot of

similarities to peter thiel

because they both have this kind of ted

kaczynski tendency

um

because there is this overt

green

anti-technology outlook

so i just mean by by referencing the

bush gore thing that

you know i wouldn't be surprised if we

get markle trump

and i do not think that it's

reasonable to expect that trump is going

to be better

because

he is just being used

you know and if you look at it and he

doesn't give any resistance to it

if you look at his uh his role in for

example

endorsing jd vance

not only did he endorse him but then the

next week he completely forgot the guy's

name and said the other guy's name

mandel

and then you know

right i mean at a different rally

and you know trump

he's just weak bannon had

bannon did whatever he wanted with trump

and supposedly he got you know he got he

got the problems like getting arrested

or getting kicked out and called sloppy

steve but

he did whatever the hell he wanted mike

pompeo ran whatever he wanted

and so i find trump to be exceedingly

weak and i became so extremely clear to

me when he failed to

to pardon julian assange which is the

last thing he could have done that would

have been that would have been potent at

all and would have saved any kind of

integrity to his presidency

so

you know that's where i see the problem

is is that presently we have

that kind of dynamic

um

yeah but on the other hand

there is

something that's shaping the rest of the

world

that these people are not really the

people who are running this kind of

operation are not really thinking about

uh sufficiently they don't really

understand it sufficiently which is the

new

economic system being organized by

russia and china and others

and the fact that you know this this

system is going into hyperinflationary

blowout so whatever yes they're planning

for fascist takeover at another degree

than they already have succeeded in and

i'm sure they'll use any kind of

emergency operation to uh to claim the

furor princip

but

but i think that they're they're the

miscalculation for them comes in

in terms of the actual severity of the

crisis of this system

and the actual um

courage

and capability of the physical economy

of russia china and india because india

is working in a sufficient in a

significant way there go ahead um yeah

yeah i also want to get to that but um

don't you think though i mean what about

vance's republican opponent wouldn't you

say also that trump may have endorsed

vance because

the republican opponent vance was facing

was kind of like a more

i guess they would call it establishment

kind of guy who wouldn't be as loyal to

trump

the story that has come out is that

bannon specifically requested that trump

endorse uh teal i'm sorry the trump

adores fans

and so that's i mean that's what i'm

going off of and the fact that um

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you know if you look at trump's other

endorsements they're all over the map

totally all over the map vance was a

never trumper

and he called he said that trump could

be america's hitler

really i did not know that

so he

so it it's just it's something much more

pragmatic and much more

uh an expression of the fact that

that bannon has you know some

significant degree of control over

trump's base

uh which

you know has been the problem in a

significant way the fact that teel and

bannon

hosted a joint event in 2016 where they

got trump to sit down with mark

zuckerberg and a bunch of other leading

tech billionaires

and

all that teal wanted to speak about

according to the report that i've read

was

china and how bad china is and to get

trump on that on the attacks on china

so that's been the operation i think

from

in a very significant way from the

beginning and i think it comes down to

the fact that these people

are basically

uh you know they're believers in the

limits to growth they're believers in

the idea

that we can't allow china to rise

because that would mean that we would

lose

we would lose we would lose our option

in his in his 2017 piece the straussian

moment piece he

directly attacks the treaty of

westphalia

which is the idea at the end of the 30

years war that you could have

a peace order based on the interest of

the other

and mutual economic benefit

and he says basically that this is uh

this is a failure that the entirety of

the treaty was failing was a failure and

then it's not possible to do that

so that's sort of why these people

you know are sort of in this kind of ted

kaczynski

situation because they really do not

have

an optimistic view about the human

species and about the potential for

nations to collaborate for the benefit

of all

now

strauss is someone i only have a

passing familiarity with

i think the the the thing i know the

most about him is his ideas about like

the foundation of the west being the

unity of athens and jerusalem and things

like that

what what is the straussian moment and

why why has strauss acquired seemingly

so much significance

uh for like the agenda of the department

of defense it seems like you know what

the you know because he is the found

founder of neoconservatism

and you know it seemed like the military

adventures of the 2000s under george

bush were

influenced by some of those ideas right

so what what is this straussian moment

really right what are we talking about

here

well that was that was definitely

larouche's view and uh and he he

specifically made a major effort against

strauss in his book

um

the book that was published called the

children of satan

which is about the neoconservatives paul

wolfowitz dick cheney uh daniel pearl

the whole the whole operation

uh project for a new american century

and all of that stuff and

i mean i i would put myself in the same

category as you i only have a passing

familiarity with strauss although it's

obvious that he's extraordin extremely

influential still today there's like

west coast straussians and east coast

trousers and all this kind of nonsense

but the

the the thing that really stands out to

me from what i have read

is that there's uh a common thread

between

uh an associate of strauss allen bloom

and strauss

which is their interpretation of plato

and the interpretation of plato

is the idea

that

uh

plato didn't really mean

what he wrote

and that socrates didn't really mean

what he's represented as saying in the

dialogues

but that if you read it with the proper

lens then you will understand

that

in fact there are a

uh small group of people

who are supposed to wear the elite where

who are these the select

who get to know the truth

and everyone else we we organize a noble

lie for them

huh

that sounds more like aristotle to me

right um

yeah but

so that's interesting i um

they're also kind of known for this view

of the kind of classic clash of

civilizations right that there's

something about

civilization that's fundamentally

incompatible with

other civilizations

would you say that's also a kind of

defining characteristic or

well i i i'm absolutely sure it's the

same current and you have um

uh you know you have a

this is this is the same kind of thing

that you get with brzezinski coming

through um

gosh his name is escaping me at the

moment i should really know but there uh

it is the same concept yes that there

must be in my you know i think you can

you can refer to it in that way um

there's

the idea that

there's something fundamentally

different that prevents the possibility

of a universal dialogue between

civilizations right and that becomes the

justification for splitting the world up

into two halves

right it's a complete it's a fraud it's

it's insane and what a lot of what we

saw in terms of the attacks on muslims

on and on islam itself

around the time period of the iraq war

was

because of that

um

but these people yeah go on oh yeah i

was just gonna say so kind of related as

you mentioned india but i think we're

also kind of yeah

looking at a lot of

big tension and there there does seem to

be this conflict between india and china

yep which i'm not i'm not sure if we're

underestimating it because india

recently joined the uh

indo-pacific economic framework which

was set up by the u.s to counter the

belt and road and india doesn't seem too

keen on on joining the belt and road

initiative anytime soon it kind of seems

like um

there does seem to be this

clash of civilizations that's being

pushed

by america and britain

between india and china right and india

has all sorts of territorial claims that

seem to be based in like you know some

religion or something like that so what

do you think is going on with that or

is india really throwing off the the

west or

is it really just um

on this issue in ukraine that it seems

like that but that you know in the long

term india is being primed for war

uh

yeah i think that's an important

question i'm not saying i'm not saying

that everything's going hunky-dory and

india's going to to join russia china

uh but i am saying that there is

certainly an opportunity for something

like that to happen

and it is not the case that it is fated

to happen the other way

um because what you have

i mean we published this incredible

report called the larouche plan for new

international economic architecture

and in it we go through the physical

economic

parameters of russia india and china

because we are proposing

that they collaborate on this new

international economic architecture that

russia and china are already

already doing because of course russia

has been forced to do it and if you

examine this you'll see that

i mean you're talking about those three

countries are 38 percent of the world

population

they

produce 42 percent of the world's wheat

45

of artificial fertilizer

65 of coal

uh and you know the many other things

you could go through 66 percent of steel

of course that's almost entirely china

most of these things are weighted

towards china massively

but

there's so much that they could do

together

and right now you see certain

good signs and i'll i'll be clear about

them one is that you have an effort

coming from india

who oppose

the climate colonialism that's what

they're calling it of the cop 26

conference which is basically the

british crown

and uh

prince charles and

when at i uh you know the story i i i

mentioned this on twitter the other day

that i went to the bloomberg global

forum i wasn't inside but i was outside

in october of 2019

in manhattan at the plaza hotel

and they had as their keynote speaker

modi

now bloomberg sir michael bloomberg has

uh he spent of course famously 500

million dollars on his political

campaign for us president

he also spent 500 million dollars in the

same i think basically period of time

on eliminating coal power plants across

the entire world

and so they brought

modi in because the most important

person for them to convince to eliminate

coal is modi

because you know china was clearly not

going to do it

and so they bring in modi and he refuses

he comes and he speaks as a keynote

speaker he plays nice but then he makes

it extremely explicit that india will

not give up its coal production and not

give up you know the benefit of

electricity for its population

and then two years later in 2021 we had

the halloween cop 26 conference and he

was at that conference that india made

extremely clear that they're not going

along with the cop 26 requirements and

they and that it's climate colonialism

to try to force developing nations to

reduce their co2 emissions at a faster

rate than anyone else

and then india has the most relaxed

goals

for so-called carbon neutrality they're

talking about 2070

so they say they have 50 years

to reduce their carbon output so clearly

they don't think it's so important for

humanity for them to do that they're

more focused on their own

populations you know requirements

so that's a that's a certain example and

the final one i'll give is that

uh about a maybe

two months ago maybe six weeks ago

in the face of the conditions of the

food crisis india went to the wto and

said we re we are uh completely fed up

with your policy of preventing what they

call what the wto calls food hoarding

but of course is simply food stockpiling

for the population

and they said we're not you know we

can't solve the hunger crisis with these

free trade rules from the world trade

organization

and uh and they um and they basically

said we're not gonna go along with that

and now they have ended all food exports

in order to defend their population

which is not a solution to the crisis

but it's an expression of the fact that

they're not just gonna do everything

that they're told to do

yeah that that does tell me that it

doesn't seem like at least the ruling

party in india right now that they're

not in the pocket

of the uh anglo

american

i don't know what i would call them

ruling class

right

so

so it to me it's um

it's interesting because while we're

talking about this it seems like there's

also a big political

realignment happening amidst the

midterms coming up

uh

this year right

so

you you talked about a candidate uh to

me in the dms that was running in new

york it was um

diane sayre diane yeah

and she's is she running for the

democrats or what what's parties you're

running for

she is an independent

larouche independent for u.s senate

wow and and uh

currently she

needs a certain amount of signatures in

order to um

run in the upcoming midterm election

basically

yeah yeah to be on the ballot

in in

new york

as an independent last year you only

needed for u.s senate you only needed 15

000 signatures which is already

outrageous because i ran for u.s senate

yeah it's ridiculous it's ridiculous

she's running for senate or congress or

u.s senate so chuck schumer that's her

target

oh and uh

yeah i needed 800 signatures to get on

the ballot she needed

uh 15 000 and then they tripled it last

year

so it was 45 000 it's an embarrassment

it's the by far the worst in the in the

state in the united states but

uh yesterday

we turned in 68 000 signatures no way

yeah

you you already because when you talk to

me in dms it sounded like

she had not yet gotten to the

well things are not settled yet yeah

okay because

the situation is that there's a

challenge period

they would have to successfully

challenge you know 23 000

signatures

and this is a huge effort i mean we had

like a hundred people involved it was

six weeks we had people out in the

sweltering heat every day standing in

front of like you know grocery stores

and asking people to sign

and um anyway so we got to 68 000 more

or less we've turned them in and we

expect her to appear on the ballot and

with that is uh you know made clear

unless there's a big legal fight and

there's a challenge

then uh it's going to be her

chuck schumer

a complete no-name named joe pinion

who's running as a republican

and uh i think that's it there may be

one other candidate from the

independents who actually got on

and so every

every household in new york state is

going to receive a ballot which includes

a choice of diane sayre for u.s senate

larouche independent and will fight for

her to be able to be in uh things like

uh you know debates

and to get a huge amount what are the

prospects for that that ability to

appear in debates

you know i don't know but part of the

insanity of the situation

and the breakdown is that i think things

are less predictable than they had done

so i don't know but she's been speaking

at a lot of mosques for example uh

republican clubs

a lot of different groups wide variety

of people i i think

i think what's what's crucially

important is that

um she needs to appear on all

alternative political

media

in general for everybody in new york so

it's basically if you live in new york

and you're sick of chuck schumer doesn't

matter where you lie on the political

spectrum i mean this is a candidate

who's gonna bring change it's gonna

bring something different

and um

you know i i think yeah i i think i

think the only thing standing in in her

way is name recognition right because

chuck schumer's already known and not a

lot of people know who she is but i

think if um

i mean geez i i don't know i mean if uh

if she was known

by the more alternative media types you

know i'm thinking

i know it's a long shot like joe rogan

and

greenwald and stuff i mean these people

speak to people who are looking for

something new and looking for

alternatives to the establishment

so

i think if if they if she can get the

proper name recognition out there

uh i think i think it could be a real

real good chance

i think so too i mean you look at

you look at jeff young and what i

what i see is that

diane can be a um an inspiration point

people like jeff can be an inspiration

yeah you could see a big wave of people

who who would say i have to fight for

this

and i mean it's pretty straightforward

right you know i was talking to people

outside the shop right

and i said hi you know are you new york

state voter can you sign for my

candidate and they say well i don't know

what's what's the story about her i said

well i gestured i just gestured at the

uh at the grocery store and i said you

know this hyperinflation that we're

dealing with

do you think that maybe the politicians

have no ability to solve that crisis do

you think that maybe this is a million

times worse than they're willing to

admit

well diane knows what to

do yeah at work i think that's a winning

message i think that's uh

i i yeah i mean i i personally i mean

i'm on youtube now so my i don't get as

many much views as i used to but i mean

i i personally would be

would have no problem you know um

having her on my show if she wanted to

come on and spread the message here and

then i could i could talk to people i

know and

try to get it done because i think uh

you know as alternative media people who

want to take on the establishment our

role should be to boost people like this

especially when it seems like you know i

mean 68 000 signatures that's no small

feat you know and

i mean can you just imagine if she

prevailed over chuck schumer i mean that

would be that would be enough to

you know cause uh

a lot of stir right in the establish a

lot of panic and a lot of change in this

country so

well i think you're right and i'm really

glad to hear you say that because i will

i will uh i think that your outlet is is

very important i think that your show is

actually really important i really

you know i look for people who think

sufficiently wild and creative to uh you

know to to change things and i think

that this community is that i'm very

happy about that and it gives me hope

so also yeah but my chat's also saying

jimmy on the jimmy dore show i'm sure

jimmy dore would be

uh willing to have her on as well so i

think we just got to get the message out

there and

i'll try to message everybody i know

and that would be great yeah yeah

because i think i mean wow i mean 68 000

signatures i mean that's

that is no small feat

you know we actually

well just to say that we got a we had a

palm card

and so we got out about a hundred

thousand pieces of literature across new

york state wow so

it's a it's a really significant

capability and

diane is fearless you really like her

she she just won't give in to anything

um and she's campaigning like a mad

woman so

um you know there's tons of opportunity

in fact you can see you know she has a

nice video on her website of her talking

at the queen's republican club you can

see how she's connecting to people there

on the question of financing neo-nazis

and preventing nuclear war

and then uh if you look at what she's

doing um

um you know she did a very good response

to the uh to the horrific buffalo

shooting uh emphasizing the role of the

azov battalion

um so she's not she she's really not

afraid to just step forward and tell the

truth and that's what people are

responding to but that's what we need in

general right because people are afraid

people are terrified about the crisis

um and they don't know any solutions

and uh but if they could find the

solutions i have faith that they would

respond to them

i i think this is something that that a

movement should be made out of you know

is that elect

diane sayre

or u.s senate and an unseat chuck

schumer we could do this you know it i

think it could be done i think this

would be a winning i think if if new

yorkers were just presented

with her position and her perspective i

think it would be no

the one the only threat is basically

people not knowing who she is right

uh because you know the the level of

confidence people have

in the senate and as well as the

congress i mean it's so low it's so low

right now in this country right people

don't like chuck schumer they're just

used to seeing his name right

and they're used to there not being an

alternative right so they all will vote

blue or instead of republican well

there's another alternative here and um

and it's especially great that she's an

independent you know that's even better

because

that's the backbone of a truly

independent politics and it's because

you know it doesn't matter where you lie

politically or ideologically everybody

who's

outside of the establishment should be

supporting people like this well i want

to put a an appeal to your viewers which

is to say come to new york get in touch

with me it's very easy to get in touch

with me

and come to new york and work on her

campaign you know i was just talking to

someone who's going to come down and

and help over the summer for as long as

they possibly can

and we should have tons of people just

coming into the state or if you live in

new york work with us

and we go out in the street

and we're going to fight for the world

land bridge and we're going to fight for

glass-steagall and we're going to fight

to shut down this uh

neo-nazi

uh you know situation is the danger of

nuclear war we're going to fight for a

peace with russia and china

and you can be a part of that

and then um you know i mean she she

actually stood up to schumer

in person about three four months ago

and just said directly to his face that

he was the cause of nuclear war we're

gonna put up billboards around the state

that have his face and it says nuclear

power not nuclear war

uh with diane on the front you know so

a lot of my followers they're in the

communist party one's in new york as

well i think you know the communist

party

instead of

campaigning and canvassing for democrats

i think this would be a good

person to to

campaign in canvas for instead you know

because they're already doing that for

democrats a lot of the time

uh when the election season comes around

i see no reason why the communist party

and the members of a communist party in

particular

you know get the message if you're in a

communist party club i mean without

giving yourself away

you know uh

it's going to come up if you live in new

york the

upcoming midterm elections and just be

like oh yeah well well there's all sorts

of ways you can hide it that they won't

draw the connection you should be like

who's this diane sarah that's running oh

my god she's an anti-imperialist she's

opposing imperials he's opposing war

against russia

uh and they'll be like oh well she's a

larusso well that doesn't matter because

imperialism is the primary contradiction

you know

yeah

yeah

i do know exactly what you mean it's

like you know it's it's just come to

that point you can't you can't stand on

on some old old-fashioned idea that

that some boomer indoctrinated you into

about how larouche is a bad guy you

gotta actually figure things out like

like like our friend caleb did

and uh you know and deal with the

reality the reality is the breakdown the

reality is the crisis you know i mean

what's uh the the latest report that we

have from eir is that um americans real

incomes are down 10

in the past year since 2021 to 2022.

i mean there's been uh inflation here

and in europe is around eight percent

and that's a completely

under reported figure the housing market

is blowing out

you know the situation isn't really

it's really getting much much much much

worse

and so you're going to have to go into a

kind of an emergency response

to the crisis that's my view people you

know biden got up and he said well we're

going to let the federal reserve fix

hyperinflation or hot fix inflation

which of course they're the ones who

created with all the money printing

this is a

this is a situation we really need

leadership from people uh like average

people who are you know who are in the

cpu usa and otherwise

so

i noticed that jeff bezos

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has taken to twitter

and actually did blame

the government spending

for the crisis do you think this is a

kind of way of sneaking in

a de-growth perspective um

rather than the money printing i mean

what what do you think about that

because i mean for someone like jeff

bezos to to talk about the money

printing

uh do you think there's an some other

agenda there or what do you think is

going on

well i think it's really important the

way that he framed that if i remember

correctly he focuses on the idea of

stimulus

right and uh

this is uh

you know

it's basically a monetarist outlook or a

keynesian

reference to keynesian in a sense that

no one is talking about the fact that

the u.s productive capability has

completely collapsed

they're not really addressing the fact

which includes the massive collapse in

orders from u.s manufacturers in this

year i think it's at least 10 percent

since last year

and the inflation in actually producers

inflation has been much higher than even

consumer inflation

so they're not talking about the fact

that yes okay the money was printed 10

trillion dollars since the since uh

starting before the pandemic remember

because the financial crash actually

started before the pandemic in september

of 2019

when they met at jackson hole wyoming

and the federal reserve and the other

central bankers said we got to start

pumping money

uh but it's not just that it's the it's

the fundamental issue the credit is

being created

for speculative purposes there is no

credit going to the physical economy

we're not directing credit towards the

projects that are necessary the

high-speed rail the you know the water

systems the power systems the nuclear

power plants that we need the fact that

we're not doing that is what causes the

inflation this is the larouche's triple

curve function if people are familiar

with it there's a dynamical relationship

between the cannibalization of the

physical economy and the the money

printing to support the financial

aggregates and we've reached the

crossover point where suddenly

you have to print the money faster and

faster and faster because you can no

longer support the financial assets the

financial bubble

at the same rate that you could before

suddenly you're going into an

exponential blowout

so that's you know they don't

acknowledge that because they don't

think in physical terms they think in

monetarist terms um and that's you know

that's i think the the essential problem

here

yeah i i i definitely agree with that i

mean um

yeah it's it's yeah it is this contrast

between producing real things versus a

fictitious coming based on fictitious

capital

but um

you know i i will say kind of roping it

back to what we were originally talking

about

yeah with bannon and teal and this kind

of agenda is that um

emits all of these seemingly

contradictory forces but it also seems

like kind of a false dialectic as well

um

you you sometimes you can't kind of help

but get this sense that we're just

passive observers

we're witnessing this conflict within

the ruling class play out it's a false

dialectic which is going to just

lead you know it's going to just develop

according to its own logic right and in

the event that something does happen in

2024 like such as a suspension of our

constitutional liberties

um

i know maybe we're kind of getting ahead

of ourselves but it's like

what then would we be able to do if

something like that happened

well i think it's really useful to ask

that kind of question

but then

you know one has to kind of uh back up

and consider

so to speak like

where we are right now

yes the question the question as you

pose is pretty it's pretty um

seductive i think i think there are a

lot of people who are who are brought

into thinking about things that way i

think that this whole sort of curtis

yarvin tendency

uh is an expression of an overt

uh cynicism about the nature of man

which includes a cynicism about the

power of the individual

to contribute something necessary to

humanity with this short life that you

have on you know on earth

because we're all going to die and so

you better produce some kind of meaning

for your life

uh and in fact you know the universe has

been created such that you can

by making uh contribution i'm to to

human creativity to creative thought by

making a discovery or even just to take

something that you've discovered that

you learned through your own

investigations of other people who made

the original discovery and then you

communicate it and you communicate it in

order to change society for the good

that kind of outlook is consubstantial

with the notion of the republic it's the

idea

uh that that there is this coherence

between

man's creative reason and the universe

and we can use it in an intelligible way

to contribute and to advance society

when you hear jd masters of peter thiel

come out and say

i think everyone should read

ted kaczynski's uh anti-tech manifesto

industrial society and its future he

says that he said that publicly

everybody should read it

because it's a cr it's a useful analysis

of how technology shapes our world and

how degrading and debasing it is to

human lives or could be to human lives

so that's what you're up against fascism

is organized pessimism specifically

about the nature of man

and if we accept that premise at all

and then say well given the fact that

we're not going to be able to stop these

people then what do we do later

then we're simply giving in to this kind

of cynical outlook about the nature of

the human individual

and that's where you know the real

question of leadership comes in is that

any person can find this tendency this

power within themselves and devote

themselves to that

and then you you you have a chance to do

something something fun for humanity and

you might not succeed and if you do

succeed maybe you're gonna get crucified

or thrown in prison or whatever

uh or killed but you know what it will

have been worth it

now

i might get we might get i might kind of

like throwing a curveball here but um

you know yarvin he's not really uh

that much of an unreachable guy he's

very much reachable he's very much

someone

with whom like a

discussion or dialogue is possible would

you be interested in ever

kind of um

challenging his ideas uh

to him ever or does that sound

interesting some kind of discussion

anything like that because

i think he is he i think i could get him

on the show i think i do plan on that um

one way or another but you know i think

it's also fair that you know you wanted

to

yeah kind of maybe have a debate or

discussion or anything like that i think

that's something i could also organize

uh

i'm definitely interested although i

would prefer to have you as a debate

partner

yeah yeah i mean i'm me personally i i

would be more kind of uh someone who

wants to hear

you know yeah

here's perspective but you know if you

guys maybe have disagreements about

history or anything like that and

i think i mean i'm more i'm just more

sympathetic to you

yeah i understand well let me give you a

couple yeah

yeah i agree with yours uh more i think

because i don't i do think

he doesn't really understand that

the issue isn't really um

formal it's not really the form of the

constitution or democracy that's the

problem the problem is that there's

these excesses to that that cannot be

accounted for by so this is a suspension

of constitutional liberties and across

the board that's just going to empower

the monopolists that already exist right

so

but um

yeah i think it's i think it's a great

idea and if if you set it up i will

absolutely

show up

and uh and represent the larouche

the larouche movement against curtis

yarvin who

i think is a pretty outrageous and and

uh terrifying person including you may

be interested to learn which is this is

in the vanity fair article

that um

years ago he could he this is a quote he

critiqued the attacks by the norwegian

far-right terrorist andrews breivik who

killed 77 people including dozens of

children

not on the grounds that terrorism is

wrong but because the killings wouldn't

do anything effective to overthrow

norway's communist government

okay so that's i mean

that's what's in the article i i think

you know i'm i'm quoting the article but

i

i'd be if someone has a different uh

different uh judgment that shows that it

is false that he said something else

please bring it up but he sounds like a

total nazi to me

and uh and i find that the lord the most

significant issue

is are you for a zero growth

uh society

are you for an information society are

you for boiling down human beings

through information or do you believe

that the human life is fundamentally

sacred and that you're gonna fight for

for that power and that you're going to

organize the world such that we can

actually acknowledge that truth i i

think that we need to do the latter

yeah

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that's definitely something to think

about for the audience but uh

pesto mime also did want to come on

to talk about

so i'm gonna drag him in if that's all

right

yeah that's great

so i'll be fine and let him talk yeah so

so pesto mine he's in new york i think

that's what she's told me that

something going on in new york you

wanted to talk about

yes so in new york anybody who is in new

york uh to make sure

like they said to

go and check out diane sayre's

campaign diane sayre has a monthly

newspaper which you can get mailed to

you as many copies as you want for free

you can also check it out

online there's also a weekly show that

goes live on facebook and on youtube the

diancer symposium

so you look at these these uh the

newspapers a lot of issues very specific

to new york but it's a lot of issues

internationally as well

you know she talks very much about

the larouche plan for new york state

to develop the new york state economy we

got a reopen indian point power plant

amongst other things we

had an interview on the live show with

one of the organizers of the amazon

labor union

very

uh now you you also very good interviews

on that show yeah i think you also

mentioned that there's something going

on with the republican

oh yes yes yes

okay so you know it's not

there's still hope is is what we're

saying right

because make america great again

uh movement

you know it's been trying to

steamrolled and picked over by these uh

uh strange pagan cultists like steve

bannon

and uh peter thiel

but it's

not so

uh not so uh easy as they might have

hoped it to be

there are

different currents and especially in new

york there's the rise of something

called a curtis slip or republican

people if they know about curtis

uh

guardian angels he founded the guardian

angels in the 1970s he was a

guy uh managing a mcdonald's

tired of all the crime over in the bronx

where he was so he decides to make an

organization of martial artists

to go around

preventing crime

recently they've been

doing a lot

in chinese neighborhoods

here in new york

across all the boroughs

they've also been doing a lot of

taking care of the homeless feeding the

homeless giving the homeless

cleaning supplies and

fresh sandwiches

he's been very very critical

of the corruption

of the former mayor's homelessness

program

he's

ran for mayor

he unfortunately lost because uh

eric eric adams is now our president uh

mayor here in new york but

now we have people

from across new york city who going

around saying

i am not a republican who believes in

uh

free markets and free trade and so on

i'm a curtis slew a republican

and that means i'm going to march around

with guardian angels by my side with

their red berets and their

uh

a pyramid with the eye and the center

logo on it

going around

talking about how much they need to help

the homeless and bring

people's justice and law and order

back to new york city and take on all of

the party bosses of the democrats and

the republicans

and they need to go uh

you know very populist uh

type ideas

that's interesting i yeah so it's like

the the the populace within the

republican party it's not only the

abandoned people there's also

these guardian angels right

uh

who represent something that hopefully

could take you know a national

can acquire some national significance

and and you know the other thing is that

hopefully there's there's other ways

that we can uh

help help roger stone

who is a great genius and the reason why

trump won in 2016 and

the reason he lost in

2020 is because

he started uh hanging around with his

new friends instead of roger stone

roger stone is is

helping now on a campaign to out seat a

very long time republican congressman in

new jersey

with a a new maga guy who is

completely opposed to steve bannon

named

crispy

so if you were in the new jersey

is that nice

no no not chris christie okay no

definitely not

and i know it's a very long shot uh on

this marxist leninist

youtube live stream with uh

you know however many hundreds of

viewers if you happen to be a registered

republican

in the new jersey fourth congressional

district uh see about what you can do to

to support roger stone and his effort

there

but

so roger stone and bannon are not

friends

oh my goodness daniel you can

you can yeah i can go on about this

because uh i wasn't around for a lot of

it i was a teenager uh when some of this

stuff but before i go before i before i

shut up

um everybody also

uh and i know that

it might not be too many people but if

you live in the 38th congressional

district of texas

make sure you go and say hi to joel

dejean who is a former infrared uh

scientist an engineer this uh

really great guy he is a member of the

larouche organization he's a contributor

to the schiller institute and so on and

he is running for congress in texas in

the 38th district also

yes well he no not an infrared viewer oh

he doesn't know who you are oh okay um

he he used to be a

army scientist or air force military

scientist i'm not

exactly sure what

the difference is between scientists

but he you know tells us all about

how he helped make the

infrared sensing equipment on the

airplanes

military uses

and he says

okay you know he saw all of the data

that they collect from those airplanes

and if people saw that data they would

understand how crazy it is to believe in

global warming uh which is true

because

i yeah we're getting to a point on

youtube where this is not even going to

be allowed to bring up well anyway joel

dejean

uh if you're in texas

see if you can go out to the 38th

district of texas

and uh move there and register to vote

there before the general election

all right so the roger stone steve

bannon uh rivalry is something that

daniel burke has seen a lot more of than

i have so i'm going to uh ask him to

explain to everybody because i think

this is something very important and

roger stone uh is also a famous

leurushist and he says this on his show

all the time

i did not know that wow

i posted in the chat uh a youtube

um which is uh if you just go if you're

just checking youtube

uh roger stone larouche it's like the

second thing that comes up

and it's one of my friends in houston

asking roger stone what does he think of

larouche and he says oh he's a friend of

mine and he's a very is great man he was

fucked over by the bushes

and uh

roger worked on reagan's campaign when

he was a young man

and that larouche met with reagan in

1980 on the campaign trail

and there's a famous picture of them

together and larousse was trying to

organize him about the strategic defense

initiative basically to end the cold war

with the ussr by establishing a new uh

international um cooperation to

make nuclear weapons obsolete so anyway

so roger saw larouche at that point and

said oh his ideas are crazy and then

later on said oh my god he was right

and uh he's been very friendly and

supportive and appeared on a number of

different schiller institute events and

larouche organization events so i think

he's really funny i think he's very

sharp he's very fun

very very wild person and uh everything

that has said i mean everything that

pesto said i agree with

um but um

and what happened was that steve bannon

completely opposes what roger stone

represents

and so um at a certain point when roger

stone was put on trial and they tried to

destroy his life

uh during the russia gate thing uh steve

bannon um

basically

took every effort to

um cooperate with the prosecution and to

try to help put roger stone away

and uh you can read the details on that

i don't remember them in specific but

you can easily find that stuff online so

bannon is a real vindictive son of a

bitch so i did read i remember reading

about how when trump first got into

office some of the people surrounding

him

had these ideas for economic policy

about basically adopting the chinese

model of using debt to build

infrastructure which would then pay for

itself

over the long term right

and was that represented by roger stone

or was that i think was an economic

adviser that was later sacked for like

uh

america first economic policy do you

know what i'm talking about or

um i'm not totally sure but roger is

someone who specifically said at one of

his one of our events that he

talked to

donald trump about the great silk road

strategy

the idea of working with with china on

the silk road which is another reason i

think trump is a chump because he he

definitely had the policies presented to

me just went along with

with uh you know i mean he was he was

under a coup

and we defended him and i'm glad that we

did

but i still think that he's a jump

yeah i mean he uh it's it seems like

he's kind of seems like to me the way

the wind is blowing

he's kind of gotten fully reined in

seems like to me

uh and he knows who he answers

but you know his movements still show

some promises just

as him personally i don't really think

seems like he's not like he used to be

in 2016

yeah i agree with you by all means get

out of the movement to the masses go

talk to the mega people and not they're

not really maga people anymore just talk

to the people who voted for trump in

2016 and 2020 and you find all types of

people but then you know yarvin and the

tealights are trying to do the same

thing and bannon is doing it on the

broad level

and so that's where i think there needs

to be some you know

political action i love what you're

doing in attacking the leftists that's

good

and i think that we also need to go

after the the fascist right currents in

this respect because otherwise the mega

people will never be able to survive

yeah

yeah i mean it's like uh it's a subtle

art of war you know you gotta

it's dangerous to have two fronts at

once you know okay that's fair that's

fair

but no i mean i am keeping an eye open

at a lot of things

it's uh

and it all it is to be fair is the

leftists who you know attacked me and

deployed for me

so yeah you're pissing them off that's

good but i also think there's there's

ways to combat ideas

without necessarily combating people you

know you can kind of just do that also

by

presenting alternative views you know

i'm i'm i don't know what what you think

but i'm i'd really try to lean heavy at

least for america

on the kind of uh

first amendment thing right i want

the ability for different ideas to

to be

yeah i totally agree and therefore

what's been done

you know by the the soros financed and

and other people who financed uh

that that outfit to attack you is uh

uh this is a danger to everyone it's an

extraordinary danger in fact i think

we're going to publish some kind of an

article

in our quarterly magazine that that

refers to what happened

oh wow

yes yes the executive intelligence

review magazine no i'm talking about the

leonardo oh the leonardo magazine that

people can subscribe to how people can

subscribe

anyway uh has it's been really good

talking to you should i should we

let you uh what do you think yeah i i

know i thank you so much guys for coming

on and thank you for uh

presenting that research and also if

there's anything else you want my mods

to link in the chat or

you know not out

yeah the larouchepub.com definitely i

think the best thing people can do is

read the ir

and uh and yeah

we can also find your twitter at uh is

it daniel burke all one word or what is

it it's burke for senate b-u-r-k-e for

the number four spin it okay well that's

where you can find them on twitter

yeah be in touch on twitter yeah and

pesto mime is obviously already infamous

right everyone knows

where to find pesto

um

i think his twitter is just pesto mime

right so

yeah also they're they're not they're

not uh banned on twitch they still got

that world

land bridge

so

well monday nights we're on the larouche

organization youtube at 8 p.m

and so people can watch us there we're

going to have a show next week where

i think we'll have a couple of guests

that you're that people who are watching

will want to hear from

some interesting names coming in

uh but uh yeah we call that the world

land bridge show so

okay yeah thank you guys so much for

coming on appreciate you thank you you

know what i'm sorry i'm sorry house i

got one last thing i got to say oh yeah

june 18 to 19 we're doing an

international institute conference i

want to reiterate my invitation to you

has to participate in every single

conference including this one

and um you know

get on camera ask a question to the

panelists you're really welcome to do

that

and then um

yeah invite you can go to

schillerinstitute.com if you want to

hear about this conference well last

last time we had anatoly antonov the

russian ambassador to the united states

and he had some very kind words for the

shaw institute

yeah yeah i'm gonna try to fix my sleep

schedule and then hopefully i'll have it

fixed by then

i'll be able to

participate

but yeah i i i'm gonna try i'm gonna try

this time

uh okay yeah

all right see you guys

take care

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check this out now this is like

something that really

really fucking shocked me right

but

um check this out

this is actually insanity i mean this

shocked me when i saw it i was like what

the fuck

uh check this out

i mean you will you're gonna like

be really surprised by this this is like

fucking insane

so look oh my god look at this so check

this out guys

this is about the cpi conference and

it's just like fuck holy shit okay look

at this

10 000 likes i didn't even know 10 000

people knew what this was

this has got to be bought it guys i

don't believe

that you know what 10 000 likes is it's

like a million views on youtube or

something you're gonna tell me that's

this is a million views a million people

care about this a million people really

right

also they're saying this is larp

i don't really think this is larp

because

it's

it's kind of reenacting a historical

thing so it's not really larp

because

it's an aesthetic it's just like it's

it's a conference where we're there to

give a speech we're not there to like

say we're changing the world we're just

giving speeches and and stuff

and these this is how it's being

decorated right and then obviously it's

showing solidarity with uh the dunyet

skin luggage was really i don't really

think that's a larp

connolly house is larp because you're

you're pretending you're engaging in

practice this is a conference when we're

just giving speeches right

uh so yeah

this is this is definitely just gotta be

about it come on there's no way i mean

500 retweets

10 000 i don't know man that's just

that's like a little

isn't that's a little out there isn't it

that's like

yeah that's really out there that's

really out there 10 000 likes but you

want to know what's so fucking

disgusting about this account so

disgusting and unprincipled about the

scumbag who runs this account

um it's the simple fact

that all of these likes if they're

genuine and all these retweets and all

these follows who are they coming from

are they coming from maoists or people

who are gonna be sympathetic to maoism

no

it's gonna fucking come from the

pro-nato

uh azovite liberals and it's just so

depressing these marxist leninists are

so butthurt about us

that they're breaking bread with literal

nazis

uh in order to oppose us you know

why are we the primary it's not like

it's not like you're going to like clear

the way and then eventually

you're going to be

it's yours you're going to be next it's

not like you're clearing the way by

opposing us

oh no then our mouth was no your shit

has never been popular you've been

trying to do the same shit for decades

and you've never been successful so

you're coming and wrecking our shit when

we were a success we have been be is we

have been uh successful i mean when i

got banned on twitch i was averaging 1k

so that is success right

i know on youtube we lost

i lost a lot you know on youtube and to

be coming i don't even know if i'm gonna

be able to do this shit you know

full time

it's still uncertain the youtube right

um

it's not set in stone but it's like

i have been successful in ways that you

haven't as far as getting your message

out there

i've been successful in ways you could

never even dream of have having been

gone right so it's like

you're trying to this i've always said

this shit though right i'm just

repeating myself you come at us to tear

us down outlying yourself with these

like pro-nato libs

and then you have this illusion that

there's going to be some space for your

ideas to what win or get popular they

are never going to entertain your maoist

dumb bullshit they're never going gonna

entertain it okay all you're fucking

doing is siding with the pro-imperialist

left it's all you're fucking doing

that's literally all you're doing but

shocking that 10 000 people like this i

mean wow

i didn't even know 10 000 people know

about this right

um

and look at how pathetic this is so i

called them out

directly

i directly called them out and they

tweeted about it

um

let me show you this

so they did tweet this is the so i said

the most despicable thing about them is

how unprincipled they are uniting with

nato libs ninety percent of them are

ninety percent of their followers and

likes their pronator liberals i mean you

just go into their likes you look at

their likes and then you know

immediately i found a ukrainian flag

right

you know look at this this is the nordic

socialist hitlerite

i mean

look ukraine flag

look at that you know

immediately and then this is on one of

their less popular tweets

and then so this is probably these are

the worst part is most of these likes

are gonna be the mls

but you even still find the nato people

here you still find them right

and then they say okay

if you want us to spread maoism and

actual marxism i'll happily oblige

though

38 likes

wonder why this doesn't go

viral like the other ones

it's almost like you are entirely

entirely grifting off of

nato propaganda

this is this is you promoting your

maoism 38 likes but when you're sitting

on the pad socks and you're sitting on

infrared oh you'll get thousands and

thousands and thousands you unprincipled

piece of shit you're not even promoting

your own fucking ideology in any kind of

way all you're doing is working with the

pro-nato libs because dumbass they're

not coming after us because we wave

american flags they're coming after us

because we're opposing the fucking nato

agenda and that's why they ban us that's

why they think we're a fucking threat

and they de-platform and censor us and

they don't give a fuck about anything

you do

twitter has never censored your connelly

house they don't give a fuck about any

of that larp you do in real life nobody

gives a fuck about this dumb shit you do

in real life you'll never be censored

you'll never be a fucking threat to the

fucking status quo you have people like

fucking hakeem who are joining the

chorus of pro-war opportunism making

videos shitting on russia

when you promote your own fucking

ideology

i'm gonna fucking tweet about this

i'm gonna fucking tweet about this

unfucking real

when they're promoting their own

ideology

they get 30 likes

when they're attacking the biggest

voices

against

imperialism and nato

they get thousands

drifting opportunists have no

principles

have no principles

people don't fuck

those thousands are only against us

because of russia

not being

a u.s flag

fucking unprincipled pieces of shit

what a bunch of unprincipled pieces of

shit

all of these

likes and encouragement they are getting

are from

pro-nato imperialists

pro-nato liberals

not an ounce of that engagement will

ever go toward their

pseudo maoist larp

ideology they can't promote their own

shit only try and tear ours down

and fail

such facts

i is such fucking facts

such fucking facts

such fucking facts

let me show you this

let me show you let's like let's look at

uh some of their biggest tweets let's

just look at the one

most recently by so this gun got like 4

000 likes and it's because i talked

about the crisscross theory of politics

how you know the the nazis and the

libertarian left are pretty much allied

i talked about how fascism is not you

know tradition in the name of the father

from freud it's actually

this adventuristic

you know pathology it's this

adventuristic perversion in psychosis

that's the same thing the ultraleftists

have

except it's at the reins of state power

right so it's like the same thing

and and without war there's no meaning

to fascism right fascism is exactly when

you know he's oh we're gonna invade

libya we're gonna invade fucking

ethiopia there's no

context or continuity we're just gonna

do it because war is glory it's

literally this anarchistic larp fucking

uh

voluntaristic ideology makes perfect

sense right people were so aghast by it

that you know they decided that this was

inherently absurd even though no one

could respond

to anything i even said but let's just

check the likes

let's just check the type of people who

like this right

israel ukraine u.s poland

uh lgbt

uk

canada

ukraine

pro-ukraine ukraine ukraine pro-nato and

this is like i'm barely scrolling and

i'm seeing it

right look at this

it's literally a fucking swastika it's

literally a swastika

it's literally a fucking

pagan sun wheel right

i mean these are the people

look at this ukraine

pro ukraine

ukraine

how hard is it to find and who are these

people that are liking it ah

france

ukraine

ukraine

ukraine colors

this is just not hard

ukraine hong kong

huh

ukraine

ukraine

ukraine and taiwan

totally not pro-war

uh

totally these are not pro-war

chauvinists

of us imperialism look at this

look at this this is i love globalism

liberalism the eu the us and other

liberal democracies

just scroll through the likes and it's

like yeah ukraine bought a bot

just scroll through the likes

how many models do you see in these

likes how many marxist leninist do you

see liking this

and before you say haas are all of your

likes for no mine are from working class

populists but who are these people

what's your excuse these aren't because

my excuse is that that's the working

class i'm a populist whatever so what's

your excuse you're just what grifting

off of fucking

the the upper class liberals is that who

you're fucking grifting off of literal

nazi liberals

i mean what you think this is the

working class as these ukraine flags

no no segment of the working class gives

a fuck about ukraine so who are these

people you're grifting off of and

getting all this attention from what is

their actual class

based thank you morlock that's an

ancient swedish symbol that means you

have to wait outside while others eat a

meal oh i'm going to talk about

something simple thank you chris but i'm

going to talk about that i forgot about

that

um so if you guys don't know about this

there's been some like discourse about

sweden

and let me just break it down right

let me just break it down so sweden

so sweden it's called sweden gate on uh

twitter so sweden's been trying to join

nato and there's a conspiracy theory

going around that russian propagandists

are promoting

some barbaric features of uh swedish

culture

that are going viral on twitter that i

want to talk about

um

is this real is this one fake or is this

real

uh so any swedish people want to tell me

because as a swedish child you were not

allowed to use the normal toilet in a

friend's house you had to ask the father

it's for this a bucket with a plastic

bag over it after you shit it they tied

the bag and you had to take it home and

throw it in your trash

is that true

it's

it's hard to accept

but we take our sanitation very

seriously

what

is this real

so it's real this is what these fucking

swedes are doing

if you shit in a swedish person's house

you have to

a bucket with a plastic bag and then you

have to take it home and throw it in

your own garbage

no i don't believe this

is this true no this is not true i don't

know what century this person was born

all right so apparently it's not true

is

is this real

is this actually real

okay well anyway i want to get to you

what what sweden gate is actually about

so

swedengate is this thing where it's

being increasingly exposed on social

media

that

swedes

uh do not

let me get the fucking original

screenshot

midsummer was a documentary bro yeah

thank you chris warlock appreciate you

but okay this is it this is uh this is

the this is the origin of it all

so what is the weirdest thing that you

have to do

at someone else's house because of their

culture slash religion

um

i remember going to my friend's house

and while we were playing in his room

look how fucking horrible this is while

we were playing in his room his mom

yelled

that dinner

was ready check this he told me to wait

in his room while they ate

i slept over a friend's house when we

woke up and he said he's going

downstairs for a few minutes after about

15 minutes i go to the stairs see what's

going on and they're eating breakfast

they see me and tell me they're almost

done and we'll be up there soon

what

so this is swedish culture it's it's

started a fucking firestorm but let me

tell you what happens when you go to a

swedish person's house by the way i am

calling on a boycott of visiting sweden

don't go to sweden don't visit them

you know no one should go there no one

should go there no one should go there i

will never fucking step foot in sweden

so apparently this is a feature of their

culture where when you go to a swedish

person's house not only do they not

offer you food which is fine i guess

right but they will literally eat

meals

as a family

and just assume it's a given that you

should be excluded and they're not gonna

fucking feed you so when so imagine

you're at your swedish friend's house

and their mom calls them

bjorn it's dinner's ready and he runs it

i'll be right back oh wait what about me

i don't get to eat i don't get anything

this is fucking barbaric this is

barbaric this is fucking evil

can you imagine

i mean like could you imagine i could

never i would

i would literally shit on the floor and

leave what a fucking rude thing

i'm an animal

am i what am i an animal you're not even

gonna fucking invite me to dinner

no we don't have enough for you

we don't have an oh you don't have

enough for me then

well we're buying ikea all the time and

i'm pretty sure those swedes are pretty

rich oh you don't have enough for me

fuck you bitch

fuck you

but this is that nordic

socialism i was telling you about this

is nordic socialism that's that

hitlerite nazi nordic

national socialist uh thing they have

going on

where what you're just

it's survival of the fittest

only our blood family can eat

you

stay in your room

not for you i i you know what can i tell

you guys can i confess to you the truth

this happened to me

this literally happened to me

so

oh god i i'm this is a trauma this is a

trauma so i grew up in a white

neighborhood

some of my childhood

i was i could not have been more than

like eight to nine years old right

and

there was this um

family

who were not foreign but they were very

waspy you know your typical suburban

waspi family

and they were neighbors and i was a kid

who used to play in the backyard

and you know their some of my siblings

would play with their siblings and

whatever

and i would kind of walk around and and

in the backyard and then they invited us

over to their house

uh and at their house

they made like this big pile of grilled

cheese pita pita grilled cheese right

things

and as a kid

i was like oh

these must be for us like the guest so i

took one i just took one and i ate it

just one i didn't take a lot there was a

ton of them i just took one and i ate it

oh my god

the mother threw a fit

i didn't make those for you

those were for the family

we didn't make those for you

we didn't make enough for you

and i felt so fucking excluded

and just i felt really bad

and just it gave me a really sick

feeling

so i went home and i told my mom about

it

and

you know they looked really that grilled

cheese looked really good and i i barely

had any i was expecting to have more

because there were so many

that she made

and i was just like hungry and i was

like oh i wish i could have some you

know they invited us over their house

and what we don't so i told my mom about

it and my mom was like oh listen don't

ever go to their house ever again

and don't eat for them and then my mom

made me some she i told her about it and

she made me some of those grilled cheese

pita things

and actually my mom used to my mom was

so shocked by it that she would make me

those often after that she would make

those for me like

very often like not every day but like

you know very often throughout the week

she would make them for me growing up

because she was so like i think she was

traumatized by it i think she was

actually

because like she she probably did that

because she thought i really liked

the that and i did it is really good but

it was mainly because of how excluded i

was and that's why i wanted them so much

because i was like a kid and i was like

oh damn you know that's just

it's just such a cold thing to do to a

child especially

and

that was just a weird family overall

it's just like a weird family but um

i i find that horrific i find it so

fucking horrific i mean let me tell you

how much i find it horrific

so if you're a guest and you come over

my house and i don't have enough food

for you i will literally give you my

meal and i won't eat that dinner i'll

order out or go grab some fast food or

worst case scenario i'll go i will go a

night without eating dinner just to have

my guest be able to eat okay

that is so barbaric and unthinkable

to put yourself before your guest

when it comes to food especially if it's

a kid

so if i was a father of a family

and my son or my daughter had a friend

over

and it was time for dinner and we didn't

we didn't plan for them so there wasn't

enough portions i guess

as the man of the house

thank you sean was jason

yeah thank you so much sean but as the

man of the house

i would

i would skip dinner i'd be like this

child is a guest of our home of course

they need to eat

more than i do tonight i would skip

dinner and give them my fucking food

you know

and but that's just assuming we we made

it only exact who does that who makes

only exact portions for them like every

normal family makes leftovers for

tomorrow for lunch and makes a little

extra and and how you know

you can spare some of your fucking meal

to be hospitable to a guest you know

it's just um

it's just so fucked up there's because

you're basically directly telling

someone like

it's so cold because what you're

basically doing is basically saying like

i don't have enough resources for you

outsider

you're an outsider

you're not even human i don't have

enough resources like imagine imagine

you're at someone's house and you're

you're playing with legos or some shit

and your friend he's like oh one second

i'm going downstairs

i'll be right back and they go down and

eat you don't know what's going on you

go down the stairs and you peek and and

the whole family's eating

what do you mean one sec you're gonna be

oh one sec i'll be right back what do

you mean you're gonna be right back

what are you doing

what the fuck do you think you're doing

you're gonna be right back

what the fuck do you think you're doing

bitch

i would be so passionately enraged i

would march to that table and destroy

everything on the table i fucking i

would chimp out and just

destroy no one's eating

nobody's eating

what a cold-blooded reptilian

cold-hearted family

how they're eating i'll take that fork

away from them you're not eating either

nobody's eating

and then imagine the audacity they come

back up the stairs yeah flip the table

they come back up the stairs

and they say oh

did you see that map of europe showing

who was most likely to share food i put

it yeah yeah thank you chris i'm gonna

show that map right now actually

but let me show you this okay

this is the map okay and it doesn't come

as a surprise to anyone so

imagine you didn't do that and you just

waited

then your friend comes back up the

stairs and he's like i'm back let's

continue playing legos i would be

looking at that kid like

what the fuck do you think i'm gonna

forget

what bygones be bygone we're just gonna

forget what just happened bitch you got

leftovers i'm a little hungry

and what i would probably do is gesture

a little bit i'd be like uh

i'm really hungry and that this fucking

swedish kid i guarantee you would be

like oh that's funny

and then you'd be like

oh that food smells really good and he'd

be like huh yeah my mom makes it the

best

and like they would just they would just

not even understand

what you're trying to say they would

they would not even process it

that you're you're politely asking if

they have any food for you to eat

and they would go right past them and

then as soon as they as when you start

asking them bluntly like okay um do you

have any leftovers

uh i don't think so

i don't think so

let me ask my mom

mom do we have any leftovers

oh beard

of course not

oh what why bjorn do you want some we do

have some for you bjord oh my friend

does he he wants some oh doesn't his own

mama feed him

we don't have enough for you

not enough for you

not enough

how could you how could you do that how

could you fucking do that right

and then all of a sudden you're super

uncomfortable you're you're like you see

yourself as a burden

and it's just super fucking

uncomfortable like oh i i can't tell you

on youtube what i think should happen to

sweden and i'm not even kidding i'm not

even kidding i i don't care anymore

my views of sweden have really changed i

never liked sweden anyway but after

hearing about this shit oh this th there

you know there's some things that are

human universals

you know you know when they used to say

like oh we found this um

tribe of cannibals

in in some pacific island this is an

existential predicament you know usually

that was just like colonial propaganda

but this is actually the real case of

that scenario like we found a place

which is so fucking barbaric that it

calls into question what the meaning of

human is

it calls into question like what does it

mean to

understand each other

that is so fun i will i will never look

at

i will never go to sweden i will never

go to that fucking country i will never

ever go there i am so profoundly

disgusted i am so profoundly sickened

and disgusted of the cold-hearted and

cold-bloodedness

that i see from this shit it is so

despicable and disgusting

that

i literally understand where not the

nazis come from

i literally get it now

like

not in terms of me sympathizing with

them but like i get what coldness can

create nazism this is nazism this is

nazis these this is what it is i

understand

its origins now it comes from this cold

cold-hearted

mentality

which is so fucking sickening

i can't fucking believe this

and apparently yeah i i i can't forgive

this i cannot forgive this i'm sorry i

can't

oh i didn't bring it up because it's not

a it's not a big deal yes it is a

fucking big deal it's it's a really big

deal and guys by the way i say this as

someone who never if you if i go to your

house and you offer me food

i'm going to decline it and i'm going to

be like no no i'm good i'm good i

already ate thank you so much though

that's me right so i'm not angry because

i need food i'm angry because it treats

it's it's treating people in such like a

you're treating them as such like an

outsider and like a foreigner and like

an unwelcome

guest who doesn't belong and it's just

it's so

cold-hearted and it's so fucking

rude you know

like i can't believe you could eat

dinner

i can't believe you could eat dinner

and and just do it without the guest at

your house like what the fuck is that

that is barbaric i can't fucking accept

that i can't understand it i can't wrap

my head around that you know

and

no it's not cold climates because look

at russia okay

russians are not like this

even the baltics aren't like this

the only it's just sweden and fucking

yeah i mean clearly this is you know

and look look at the south

i mean this is just

it's so mean it's so cold-hearted

and the reason it is is because it's

like you go to a house

and

there is a barrier it's a totally

different family

and

you start to be more comfortable and

feel more welcome

when they start overcoming that barrier

a little bit right okay yeah we're gonna

treat you like one of our own not

because you are one of their own we know

you're not gonna be part of that family

but that's the meaning of hospitality

you're made to feel that way so you're

made to feel like you're a welcome guest

like we will do the most we can

to make you part of our household for

the time that you're here because we're

human beings

and the reason why we exclude people

from our family isn't because we want to

exclude human beings because life is

brutal cold and it's a doggy dog world

and when you actually do have friendship

and you're able to have people over that

you like you do want to treat them like

family because it's ideally we should be

one big human family right it's just we

can't have that because of the cold hard

truths of reality and i get that but why

would you

why would you like why would you wield

those cold hard truths even to the

guests at your home

that's how cold and distant people are

from each other in a swedish household

that if you go there

you have to you have to sit in the

garage like a fucking dog while the

humans eat

and look look i would not be throwing a

fit

if this was an adult if it's an adult i

would be like okay it's a little weird

and it's a little rude but it doesn't

cross the boundaries of inhumanity

if my goddamn kid went to one of these

houses

and they made him wait in the room while

they ate dinner

i would walk in that house

and crop dust the whole thing

while they're eating

they would eat my fart that's what

they're eating for dinner the smell of

my shit

if that was my kid

and he they told called me and told me

what that fucking those people at that

house did

and this is so uncivilized i believe in

an embargo over this sanctions embargo

iron curtain everything

no one in or out

until we figure out what the fuck is

going on

because this is disgusting and it's

happened to me as a child too it has

happened to me before and it was the

most disgusting it was traumatizing it

was actually traumatizing

is the most despicable thing i've ever

seen

thank you lotto this info is false

finland not serving your guests is

offensive i bet they only looked at

coastal swedes i didn't think it was

finland either to be honest i didn't

think it was gonna i thought finland was

weird too that they included it here but

i think sweden is like this i think it

is

at least on the coast like you said and

i know denmark is yeah i know it's i

know that and look at this unlikely in

written what a surprise

what a surprise

check this out atari

drop something in fact checking

sweden's scary they have universal

health care but their doctors euthanized

covet patients instead of caring for

them dropped a link in fact checking

the country's treatment of the elderly

and patients with

comorbidities such as obesity is

especially appalling

many elderly people were administered

morphine instead of oxygen

despite available supplies effectively

ending their lives

potentially life-saving treatment was

withheld without medical examination

with this is what sweden did to the

elderly this is what they did to their

own elderly

something is very weird and you know

i've always gotten a bad feeling in ikea

you guys ever gotten a bad feeling in

ikea even eating that food at ikea which

admittedly it's not that it tastes good

it's just like there's a lot of variety

and there's a lot of it

the ikea food

but

you know

eating this food it's like

y'all ever been to ikea and got a bad

feeling in your stomach like this is

this idea is too cold

it's there's so much different

rooms but it doesn't it never feels

homely have you ever been to a fucking

ikea and felt like it was home no it

felt like an artificial husk an empty

shell of a home it never felt

warm

never go to ikea again what a fucking

horrible place what a disgusting place

i'll never go there again

i'll never go there again matter of fact

we may as well look at swedish cuisine

and see what we're missing out on here

just just for reference right

so

just for reference we should kind of

look at

what we're missing out on

i guess

hey there fellow travelers mark here

with walters world and behind lingan

berries legend bears these little red

berries you see in lots of swedish

cuisines you go to ikea i think it's in

half the picture gotta have in sweden

meatballs yes you will have the the

swedish meatballs and yes y'all can keep

that there's gravy with it y'all can

keep that mashed potatoes and things

like that but it is about just eat them

plain or it

y'all can keep that

y'all can keep that

that i want to feed my dog that shit

y'all can keep that

what the hell is that i don't want none

of that just looks like a chicken

mcnugget oversized

with some

tartar sauce on top and some the hell is

that shit man

y'all can keep whatever the hell that

shit is

yeah y'all can keep that

okay i guess that looks okay

y'all don't y'all feed your guests

that's disgusting man

i will never think this i'm so disgusted

i'm so disgusted

i'm so sickened

what a horrible fucking place

apparently in sweden everything is for

free at the stores

why should i why should i care

oh

hi you're stealing from the business

owner why should anyone care

it's a cool world get as many resources

as you can

why should i respect anything in sweden

it's a core

world

it's a cold

world

where there's not enough resources to go

around apparently

to feed the children guests you have at

your home

well

you at the the store the grocery don't

mind if i do bitch because it's a cold

world

it's a cold

doggy dog world you want to be cold like

that

i'll get some refrigerated pockets bitch

celery and fucking everything

do that shit in the swedish mcdonald's

where you go to the drive-thru hey let

me get a number three a number four a

double number five super size me on the

number ten let me get the large fry a

double whopper a big burger whatever

right

and then you walk up

you go to the drive-through where they

they're presenting that bag they're

holding it out and you run jog you grab

that bag you keep running

oh

world in sweden

oh you can wait in your room cashier you

can go wait in your room cashier you can

wait in your room cashier because i'll

be right back

i got something to do cashier you can

wait in your room you understand you go

to a swedish mod podge shop there's a

cute little old couple

oh my name is barnvar oh and this is

foreign we run an old convenience shop

where we sell it's a bakery swedish

bakery we have swedish food for everyone

to go okay whatever so you go in this

cute little bakery i'm going in this

bakery right you're going this cute

little bakery you understand

this cute little you know mom pop bakery

and i'm keep in mind i'm a war refugee

as a child

i experienced the sweetest childhood

where i was at them those houses and

they told me to wait in my room so i

that's ingrained and burnt in my head

thank you morlock

check out calton's mostly gusting

swedish thank you so much mark that shit

is ingrained and burned in my memory

right

so i'm

i'm walking in this shop and i'm wearing

this

i'm wearing this you got to keep that in

mind so i walk in that shop

grabbing everything and run out

and before i leave with the door i say

y'all can wait in your room

y'all can wait in your room i'll be

right back

y'all can wait in your room i'll be

right back

you can wait in your room i'll be right

back

when you don't got no humanity

in your household

gorillas on the loose

if you don't show humanity in your

household the gorilla's gonna be on the

loose

you don't show humanity in your

household the gorillas are gonna be on

the loose you understand i'm not gonna

take it i'm not gonna tolerate it

vigilante for humanity

for humanity you understand it's a cold

world in sweden

it's a cold

world in sweden

and i'm not having none of it

i'm not having none of it's a cold doggy

dog world i'm not showing compassion to

nobody i'm not showing humanity or

warmth to nobody i'm gonna be

i'm gonna be a gorilla i'm just gonna

take everything i'm gonna take what i

want i'm gonna eat what i want i don't

give a fuck i'm gonna go i'm gonna make

friends in sweden i'm gonna make friends

in sweden i'm gonna find a swedish

girlfriend and get invited to her

parents house and they're gonna make

dinner and i'm gonna come uninvited as a

guest and they're making dinner and they

didn't make those portions for me that's

okay bitch because i'm raiding your

fridge i'm raiding your pantry i'm gonna

have a big ass sack like santa claus i'm

gonna stuff and ransack their entire

fucking house

and i'm gonna ghost her and i'm gonna

walk i'm gonna be like the grinch of

swedish homes

you better ban me from sweden cause i'll

be the grinch of swedish dinners and

breakfast and lunch i have a big ass

sack going chimney to chimney just ram

sacking that whole thing you can wait in

your room sweden wait in your room

wait in your room

wait in your room

uh

i'm gonna go on i'm gonna go to sweden

i'm gonna find a swedish girlfriend

online i'm gonna go to sweden

i'm gonna take her out to dinner i'm

gonna take her out to dinner

and the waiter is gonna come and i'm

gonna get this extravagant

meal

and then as soon as i'm done ordering

that's all waiter you can go so you're

like um i forgot to order and i said

what you can wait i'll be quick

and i'm gonna have this 10 course meal

the waiter is bringing me while this

girl sitting there starving

i'm going to be eating up chick uh huh

she's trying to be cute she's gonna be

trying to be cute like you know how

girls they try to be cute take some of

your food

i'ma swipe her hand away slap her hand

away bitch you're not touching my food

bitch not enough for you

wait in your chair

wait in your chair

and i'm going to eat a five-course meal

she's not even having water

i didn't pay for that water but water is

free not in my household not in my

dinner table

and if you drink water i'm going to tell

the waiter that a hobo

is invading my table and to escort you

out so if you want to be here you're not

eating or drinking nothing

and that's a beautiful swedish dinner

date i swear and i vow

that will happen one day

i'm gonna defend all of the young

people who were traumatized by the

swedish household traumatized by going

to swedish homes and not being fed i'm

gonna avenge them all

i'm gonna avenge them all by bringing

justice

bringing justice to this god forsaken

place

bringing some justice

to this god forsaken place

y'all can wait in your room

or just licorice which if i could see

this dude rejecting oh you just weigh in

your room i'll be right back

motherfucker

basically cinnamon roll that shit looks

good i'm not gonna lie but i'm not

asking for it

i'm not asking for food in sweden i'm

taking it i don't ask because you don't

got hospitality anyway you know let me

let me think about this mentality so

if you don't have hospitality and you

don't offer your guests some food that

means i could just take the food from

you and you won't get offended

you must understand we don't have enough

for you there are limits exactly jan are

there malthusians

so let me get it straight

i can go to sweden and just take it

and that's fine because it's a

dog-eat-dog world

and i just happen to be stronger and

smarter than you in acquiring the

resources

and you can't take it personally just

like how i don't take it personally when

you i'm sitting in that room

and you don't offer me no food i'll just

take your food

no problem

oh you got a problem

that's gonna belong to you

what do you mean belong what does belong

mean

what does belong mean

i took it so it is mine unless y'all

want to pay viking reparations for all

them

all those uh

all that shit the vikings had ransacked

and pillaged

oh you don't want to talk about that

though i have it'll have like really big

pieces of sugar on top it is fantastic

all throughout scandinavia they're very

good pastries especially their cinnamon

rolls are really good especially here if

you want to be really sexy and stop

frying things they'd say yep

you don't put it on your potatoes when

you're seeing any

things that combine with that you've

found bad talks she quick eats is the

kind of local oh and they're stealing

our american food

we should put a patent on french fries

and enforce it now sweden you can't have

our food you can wait in your room

sweden you can't have our food wait in

your room you can't have our french

fries wait in your room

we'll be right back wait in your room

local chat all these people on twitter

who's saying um i don't feel

what the big deal is you don't see what

the big deal is

there's a big deal motherfucker

adams these are the people who are like

oh yeah we engage in cannibalism what is

the big deal exactly

i don't understand this house guy

this house guy he is so ridiculous

i don't understand fuck you

you don't understand shit you don't

understand your ass from your head you

understand basic common sense in basic

manners

shit man what the fuck is that where

does that come from

where the fuck does that come from pain

of fast food hamburger joints and what

you want to get is the max original okay

the original burger because the max

burgers their big thing is it's got this

special sauce on top the max original

sauce i'm taking that shit i'm

ramsacking pillaging that shit

i'm gonna make a space

i'm gonna make a space

i'm gonna make a space

i'm gonna debate people about this

i'm gonna make a space

we're gonna debate some people about

this

i'm not asking for shit i'm not asking

for shit

we don't ask for shit

because you want to be cold-hearted you

want to be cold

blooded

then you don't have to offer me any food

i'm just going to take it

and i'm not asking questions i'm not

asking requests i'm not going to be

polite about a not polite you want to

come to an understanding

where you don't have to

you don't have to offer your guests in

your home any food

well i don't have to offer you any

requests

as far as the food that i'm gonna take

you understand so this is the truth and

i have childhood trauma about this shit

i'm sick of the bullshit i'm sick of

people trying to bypass you know oh you

should no i'm not gonna i'm not gonna

leave empty-handed at a swedish

household i'm not just gonna accept the

fact that this whole entire family is

eating without me and excluding me from

their entire shit imma take i'ma take

what belongs to me what they didn't have

the politeness to request to me i'ma

ramsack that shit the whole pantry ritz

crackers the whole thing and what the

fuck are they gonna do about it nothing

because first of all let me put it this

way if somebody does that to you you

should never speak to them again anyway

but you may as well go into their pantry

and just start taking food and don't

even ask for it and then leave and never

talk to him because yeah it's gonna make

them see you in a really negative light

too bad bitch you already crossed that

line and by the way what are they gonna

do call the police that you took their

fucking cheez-its or some shit they're

not gonna do shit okay so if you're in a

swedish house and they don't offer you

any food

first of all

never go there ever again but second of

all most importantly ramsack that pantry

take take that shit don't ask for

nothing just take it

just take it

just take that shit you understand

and i had almost forgot

i had almost forgot because

motherfuckers we don't have time to do

space i almost forgot about the fact

that we have to do the patreon shit i'm

doing the patreon shit right now okay

fuck i i keep forgetting i keep i

fucking keep forgetting why we're doing

the patreon shit right now okay

so i'm gonna do that now

everybody like the stream right now or

you're going to hell and you're a piece

of shit like the stream right

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like the stream right now

all right

keep forgetting about

all right it's gonna be fun

all right

so first is beto

el buttercario thank you so much for

being a patreon appreciate you so much

man you do you has best regards beto

thank you man appreciate you

appreciate you

um

party chairman will you and the

collective ever do a detailed video

essay about how we already live in

socialism

i personally think that the video we did

which was uh

the meaning of socialism in 2021

was

pretty effective in already doing that

uh in the way that we had intended it

to mean right

um

let me tell you why i don't really think

i want to do that although i'm writing a

sub stack already about it but

i'm so sick of having to argue with

americans about the right to be able to

say provocative oftentimes contradictory

things like if i say we live in

socialism of course there's a sense in

which that can can make sense and that

can like be given context and meaning

but like americans are like no there is

no context at all in which that would

ever make sense or would that will ever

do whatever right and they're so

dismissive of it it's like a deeper

problem right i could make a detailed

video essay talking about how we already

live in socialism but why when the whole

point is to put a foot in the door to

get people to think differently about

socialism

all i'm really doing is defending the

right to be able to say something that

is that goes against the existing

conventions about what socialism is

and those conventions are based in a

kind of metaphysical and undialectical

view where there's just this fixed idea

of socialism that exists somewhere and

if you deviate from that you're a

lunatic

you know that's what i'm sick of having

to do just like when it comes to when i

said the ottomans were socialists yeah

of course

there's a sense in which that's true

no i don't think you guys want the

videos easy i don't think you want an

actual video about that i think you more

want to know why it could even be

justified to say something

that's so groundbreaking and shocking

right

um i think what you do want is is an

understanding of like what the cultural

revolution was

china what was the sino-soviet split

because that's what this is all about

and what is socialism in the first place

right

that's what you would more want to see

right but this i don't i don't think so

stalinism thank you for being a patron

do you always listen to the kind of

music you play on the show yeah more or

less

how has your taste music evolved over

time

it's actually a good question

um

so i used to kind of um

i rose from the abstract to the concrete

so more or less

in high school i was a big nerd

privately i would never share this

publicly but like i was a kind of nerd

where

i liked the communist music

and then um

it became punk when i say punk i mean

like the clash and all that cringe type

of shit

and that's pretty much what i would

listen to in high school and then

eventually i'd start to find halal

ideologically approved music that was

actually pretty good like

some italian progressive rock

and stuff like that but it's still it

remained um punk

and also ska this is so cringy like i i

found a band called it was an italian

band it's called banda basati something

like that and i used to listen to them

right banda basalti i used to listen to

that shit

so

yeah

um and then when i was in my s

so from from

junior to senior year of high school i

kind of i still have i didn't grow out

of like the um ideological halal based

music only type of shit but

i did start to get a little more refined

in terms of diversifying my

taste in music

based on

theory and ideology or whatever i'd be

like well actually

more things are halal than i would have

thought because a lot of music

has these inherently like ideologically

halal meanings

and origins that whatever and it got to

a point where

i started to care less about

um

the ideological meaning of the music

this is actually this is actually such a

good question

there's a lot i could say about this

there came a point where i started to

care less and this was still in high

school by the way about the id fuck the

clash dude fuck that it's just like

cringe um

teenager shit but

i started to care less about the

ideological meaning of the music

and more of whether or not the melody

and the vibe and how the song sounded

could remind me of what i would consider

like these ideological truths right

it's almost like um

i was a fanatic i wasn't i wasn't like

openly publicly a fanatic but privately

i was a big fanatic um

so like there was all sorts of music

that

it just had this cinematic epic

quality to it where i was like yeah this

is what like a fucking

revolution would be this is the soviet

union so i'd like i would make these

weird associate associations between

like

music that's not inherently ideological

and my ideology does that make sense i

would make those connections and then in

between that

um eventually

uh in

in uh senior year

i started to to go

yeah i know it's really cringe but then

there was this nuclear moment

senior year of high school like winter

break or whatever i took lsd

so i took lsd basically and um

it kind of broke me down in in a really

big way a lot of things were happening

in my life whatever

but

it was kind of this malavician moment of

ground zero like

all of my idols were shattered

all of these forms of cope these

ideological fantasies and cope was

completely shattered

and i went to the ground zero of like

what is spirit what is soul what is like

what does it mean for there to be

meaning in something right so then my mu

my music taste basically started to

it started to um

it got reduced it's almost like think of

it this way my music taste became like

used had been like a big tree and i

chopped down that tree right

and then

so the music i started to like was folk

i started to like folk music

bulk music

um also classical music

beethoven

was

always a um

a thing i trained myself to get into in

high school then after that moment when

i had lsd whatever i started to actually

get into beethoven a lot

like um

started to actually understand his

symphonies and like understand the

different ones and what their meaning

was

thank you quoting jesus watch the movie

fang hua it's about cultural reverend

okay

uh

i

basically um

what was i gonna say i

a lot of my teenage angst

was being translated to me in the form

of beethoven's music

beethoven was the like he

all that other shit i was telling you

about like

epic whatever

that was like uh

players on top of this

beethoven represented that like angst

teenage angst to me even more than punk

right

um

which era is based

um

i

i uh

i was getting i was also like starting

to be

fascinated with the french revolution

which was the context of this like the

french revolution and the story of

napoleon

that romantic story in general right

was a big reason for my uh

attachment to beethoven as well like

beethoven was what was for music

what was going on in history with the

french revolution

okay

so

yeah i i i don't really give a fuck

about the gatekeeper

what what what's here with was

beethoven's music from like i'm not

going to entertain this shit that by the

way that's not like it owned because

that's common knowledge

that yeah we're talking about the late

18th century early 19th century you know

up through

20s

but

let me just say i'm not going to i

promised i wasn't going to repeat this

but if you keep music

and you try to keep someone's knowledge

of music uh you are a cigarette

i don't give a fuck

no apologies that's what you fucking are

okay

so anyway

um

i'm not gonna say that anymore but

one thousand percent that's what you

fucking are you you are devoid of any

appreciation of

anything with soul anything with spirit

in it

you are the scum of the earth

um anyway

because knowledge isn't even important

it doesn't even matter

it's what it means what does the music

mean that's what matters

when you make it about knowledge you are

a cigarette that's what you look like in

my eyes

like

why talk about music then why not talk

about fun facts on uh why not talk about

logical syllogisms or some shit you know

anyway um

so as i was saying

beethoven's very stormy

angsty like

emotional music was like a big part of

my teenage years late teenage years

right

but i i i was chopping down the tree and

trying to get to like what does it mean

for there to be meaning not just the

music but just in the world in general

all that kind of stuff so was that

malevich moment leveling everything

trying to find pure soul pure feeling

pure spirit right so that's why i

started to really like folk

and by the way this is all in private

i'm not telling people this shit

publicly because that's cringy right but

i started to like folk a lot i started

to appreciate it a lot

in particular irish irish folk

um

mainly irish folk right but also other

stuff

i started this is so cringe dude you can

but i can get away with it because i was

literally in high school right i started

to like that band uh that italian band

madonna city ramblers they're like a

celtic band i don't listen to any of

this shit anymore by the way just to be

clear

telling you high school okay

i listened to them and

alongside that though i didn't only

listen to like old nerdy music i also

listened to like

you know

uh a little bit of uh

i don't know it's just like this time in

which

trying to remember i'm trying to

remember the type of fucking music i

would listen to

and

that i'm telling you just what like the

basis was not everything on top what i

would build on top that was like to me

folk

it's not that i would only listen to

folk but that at this point to me the

essence of what music was

was folk

because

it is

um

it is uh

full of meaning but not directly through

the lyrics but through the melody so

it's like for me the ground zero of

spirit is folk right at that time

and

um alongside that i kind of was

listening to um

uh

trying to think trying to remember

what did my fucking playlist look like

this was before i had spotify so i like

i had actually saved my shit on my phone

from my computer

um

that one song

which i did not discover through kanye

by the way it's like that hungarian song

she got but it's in hungarian but this

is like the english series like she got

pearls and

pearls in her hair

if she you know that song but the

hungarian one that kanye sampled but i

didn't i didn't find out about it

through kanye west i found out about it

through um

something else someone else

but um

that that type of music is what i

started to listen to basically like

music that was like

derivative of folk in some kind of way i

guess i guess that's how i put it

derivative of folk of some kind which

can range to a lot of shit i even

started listening to some country stuff

right

i started to listen to some country

music

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i always loved the wolf towns yeah i was

big friends of the i was sorry not

friends i was big fans of them as well

wolf tones and uh

we're those serbian celtic band guys i

like them too

uh

so

time is passing and that's pretty much

what i'm listening to

for a long time and then i discover

in

late 2014

i discover an artist

her name is she's an actually

scandinavian artist

her name is uh

suzanne sundford

right

and then at that point my taste

changed uh away from folk

that was a qualitative leap where i made

a change from

like thinking folk

was the ground zero

or the essence of music

to

um

i would call it like this

weird new form of high culture through

pop right i got somewhat called indie

pop right indie pop

so

that's going to be suzanne's son for

specifically

um

and then her album came out like a year

later right when i was getting into it

which was her most famous album

i got into it because i really like that

her album uh the brothel

but she was known for her later album

what is it fucking called and it feels

so weird about it the cover is even like

a black square with some shit on it

but um

yeah jazz is also uh

for and i'm gonna it's a word i can't

say yeah 10 love songs that's what it is

10 love songs but uh yeah so from there

i kind of would branch out and um

my idea of music at that point

going forward

was increasingly a view of music which

is like um

an antigone kind of view of music where

music is about

uh not just about meaning anymore but

about

sorry it's still about meaning but

somehow

it has to include the kind of agony

and suffering that's a part of meaning

right so music is like for me um

it's pop music popular music but

put into it a new context

which

explores and tortures

its uh inners right it's like

it's um

the things that go into it because i'm

starting to adopt the

heavily reading adorno and this stuff at

the time right critical theory so for me

it's like

true revolutionary music true good music

in general should remind you just like

how high culture does

it should impose upon you the ability to

think critically about

uh the form and the meaning of the music

itself it's good music is music that

makes you

dwell about the sublime

it makes you contemplate the sublime i

should say contemplation of the sublime

um

but then so i'm going from folk to

uh

indie pop kind of music and then

it's also scandinavian artists in

general a lot of them that i forgot

um

soap and skin i think was one of them

is that one of the names of their their

band that was people i would listen to

i'd listen to um

i forgot a lot of shit i forgot but uh

alongside that though

my music taste started to get

progressively more and more middle

eastern

since

when i was in high school like

i started to um

this is so cringy but like 2015 i was

listening to uh gogold bordello that

like gypsy music whatever

and

i really liked that like uh

middle eastern sounding whatever because

i i totally been removed from my culture

since high school

it's like i was kind of like

rediscovering it but in a really

unfamiliar form

so these kind of like melodies and

rhythms or whatever that are more like

oriental

whatever started to like those and then

okay no no yeah then from 2015 to 2016

it's not it's not specifically suzanne

sunford

it's beethoven's folk songs

so he has these collections of songs

that are based on the poems of like uh

irish and scottish poets like robert

burns and all those kind of people

he he had an album

i wasn't an album sorry it was a it was

a set of songs he made he was

commissioned by some noble and they're

called the 25

scottish songs 25 irish songs something

like that right

and he had these minor ones or whatever

and those are what i would listen to the

most heavily i would i like

i've memorized most of those songs like

i've literally memorized i could

literally sing them um

i could literally like sing mostly i

memorized most of them right

that's what i was listening to the most

because to me

that thing i was talking about before of

dwelling music that makes you dwell in

contemplation

um

that was beethoven's folk songs his folk

songs

were different from normal folk songs in

that

they um they were not just like uh

spontaneous and authentic expressions of

meaning

and the everyday lover they were high

culture

surgical

um

interrogations of these folk songs

which

left you with a very very like

disturbing but also it's like a

combination of the feeling of the

sublime the disturbing whatever

so

yeah it was those

beethoven folk songs

to me

that was when i my critical theory

moment right that i was big big into a

dorno

then um

around 2017

i'm really starting to think about like

i'm not pretending to be a music

theorist i don't know like the technical

terms for any of this shit but music has

always been really important to me then

around 2017

i'm uh

i'm getting a lot into the kind of like

accelerationist whatever stuff

and so uh

i'm starting to have an understanding of

music

that there's this there's this big

division

in music right

and um

it's between this pure

enjoyment of music of the jewish sons of

music the death drive of music

which it seems to me is what's popular

right people just want

the way nick land and the

accelerationists even described it they

were like people are in clubs because

they're trying to get possessed

right by the death drive through music

they don't have any regard for the

contemplative aspect or the aspect of

meaning there right

whatsoever

so for me

uh i had started to

to me these two aspects of music

became very polarized like on the one

hand i was listening to um

what is that fucking uk music even

called

what is it called again it's called uh

it's called

hyperdub some shit like that it's called

like hyperdub or whatever

but it's pretty much this type of uh

electronic music that's like

just pure repetitive

automatic

kind of disturbing no not pc music just

it's like very repetitive uh meaningless

music by the way no at this time i had

come to the idea that

the essence

the music of the future will be like uh

the soviet avant-garde vision like from

the iron foundry that we will find music

in the everyday sounds of the factory we

won't even have music

that romantically tries to be melodious

or kind of

contain some coherent meaning and it

will just be like this pure

imminentization of humanity into the

mechanical

uh world of of industry right

so i have a very avant-garde idea about

the future what it means for music to be

progressive is to go into the direction

of being um

just purest resonance pure enjoyment

right

so i'm starting to like oh

also at the time i really liked the km

fdm dude i liked them at the time

i liked industrial a lot leibach came

fdm

i liked it industrial a lot because

industrial was about

industrial is my favorite because

the soviet avant-garde vision of like

making music

industrious like the sound of industry

the group that

kind of um

not just that specific uh

who is the guy who did the iron foundry

again i i fucking forget i forget all

these people's names it's been a long

time

uh also the con not just the formalistic

idea of music but uh

it was almost like a transcendental idea

like for me it's like

i have to

enjoy the iron foundry if i don't enjoy

it i have a counter revolutionary

sentiment still

so it's like i have to learn to

appreciate and like this

um

so

uh

but then obviously like i i can't just

be listening to that all the time so

it's like

the music i'm listening to on spotify

and shit it's like industrial right

um

the constructivist idea of

sorry the formalistic and constructivist

idea of reducing music down to its bare

bones and its bare minimum that's why i

liked industrial that's what yeah i'm

also off yeah muscle off muscle off

yeah

he he went on if if i recall correctly

he went on you know this is so

interesting i'm going to be derailing

muscle off he's so interesting because

he

doing this repetitive whatever

industrial music he went on in the 30s

to change his interest

to

guess what uh

central asian folk music

because this islamic kind of music this

folk music from asia was also having

this quality of like repetitives

apparently meaningless

uh

chaotic

not chaotic but like apparently

meaningless

so on and so on

so

uh

but then on the other hand alongside the

industrial is that kind of like

scandinavian

dark whatever i don't know what the fuck

to call it it deserves its own genre

it's like uh antigone music i call it

antigone music it's like

music

that

is about

uh it's

antigone pop that's what i would call it

right

so on the one hand let me put it this

way on the one hand i'm listening to

music that's just pure industrial

whatever

and then on the other hand i'm listening

to music that's like

like a woman basically like

singing her heart out in the most

raw way possible right it's like a lot

of melody a lot of emotionally charged a

lot of this so it's two extremes that

are my uh

that are my um

that i i'm listening to right

and then

and then uh

i started to listen to more

fuck what was i listening to mainly

a lot of different shit right at this

time but um

trying to skip through shit

let me look at let me look at my spotify

right now

and just

i know the retards are leaving um

but i don't give a fuck fuck them right

but uh i'm trying to look at my spotify

now and um

your top songs from 2018

tops let's just do 2017. your top songs

2017 so i can remember

oh i'm also listening to like uh front

242 i'm listening to eastern european

uh

i don't even know what you call it just

like very dystopian sounding music right

listening to that yeah likely likely is

another person i forgot

um

uh yeah it's mostly this stuff and then

i'm starting to listen to more arabic

music too at this time

um

yeah some scandinavian shit

so yeah that's pretty accurate how i

described it and then

what happened after that

oh yeah and then i started to listen to

like

some english crazy shit

as well

yeah i've started to listen to some

pretty scary music not gonna lie but um

and in 2018

mute

my favorite song in 2018 was asap

forever asap rocky right

um

why would it how do we fit that in the

whatever i think it's cause like

i thought it was really interesting how

there was this combination and

convergence between like moby's whatever

song which is supposed to be like i

guess a form of high

high culture

and then pop music so what i liked about

asap forever was

it was pop music but somehow something

was trying to break out right

so that's really that music that that

song lived rent-free in my head for it's

the top song i have for 2018

um

i'm listening to uh

yeah other asap rocky shit

still the same shit from 2014 mostly but

you know likely and stuff

uh

the hyperdub people like komodo and shit

oh yeah in 2014 i was into massive

attack for some reason but um yeah some

more arabic music there's a there's no

song specifically that also lived rent

free in my head and it was uh

should i demonetize this video and just

play it

because it's actually really good

now i'm not going to do it but it's just

uh it's yazmin hamdan it's called cafe

acid arabic remix

that's i was into that kind of like

really dark it wasn't

dark but like kind of a little bit

depressing music

um

and

yeah

let me try to think of like is there any

new pattern here no so the major change

come on let me listen to this give me a

second

all right

i got it

um

so the major change

happens in 2019

2019

is when i finally released

how did you find brother louie

thank you ace 2019 is where i overcome

the problem between high culture and low

culture

and genuinely

start to have

a normal non-autistic

taste in music 2019 2019 i start to

fully

embrace

uh

the music industry basically pop music i

see i no longer have a snobby view of

music

in 2019 i have a music view of music now

which um

he privileges the intellect

and deep privileges the role of

contemplation fully

and at this time

i'm getting really into foreign music so

uh

music that is only indie not because

it's avant-garde but just because it's

foreign right so russian french french

in particular big time french

french electro pop and french indie pop

that kind of shit

and then

also

um

at this time yeah by the way the whole

time i like t grizzly the whole time

it's not mentioning it because

whatever

but

yeah the whole time like for years i

liked t grizzly and but he becomes

pretty much like my favorite for 2019

or like you know i guess storm the gym

and shit

um

2019 is where i think like my shit

matures the most right

and then

pretty much after that

i start to only like music that can

combine the industrial whatever

ruthlessness of rhythm

plus

the uh elegance of melody and to me

happy hardcore and then like bloom chan

and that kind of genre to me that's what

does that the best right so for me i

those two become reconciled those two

extremes i told you about somehow become

reconciled and then all of a sudden i

can like music like a normal person

right um but not as a snob i don't i i

i don't have a snobby view of music i

have a view of music that's based on

vibes not contemplation

um

so yeah

let me see 20 20. come on let's say

top songs 2020

um

yeah it's just the same

2020 is where that shit really starts to

kick off though like my music taste

becomes

more refined

than ever before

um i'm really proud of like how my music

tastes evolved honestly i'm really proud

of how evolved

and

explaining it now okay but how i got to

right now it's like

streaming has played a big role

in defining my taste now because like

music to me has to remind me of my job

some kind of way right

so

i can't really explain to you how with

the music i like because it's

schizophrenic it's just

it's not schizophrenic it's just like

it's hard to explain right

but

i eat food don't set the fuck up dude

like i've been i've been in this shit

for like 10 years and yeah i was cringy

in high school when it came to my music

tastes

so what

i i was having this mentality that like

you know

the world is all fucked up and it's like

you know

some music is going to

put me on the wrong course i got yeah

you can say i was brainwashed or

whatever but it's like i was a fanatic i

was an ideological fanatic

but that was in high school like i i

clearly matured from that pretty quickly

but meanwhile you have grown fucking men

like jason on rouhey who's the worst

example of it and then the all these

fucking people on twitter who never grew

out of that right

or who never even cared about that

because they never even gave a fuck

about it in the first place

right

um

because they were just always never even

like serious about it

but like yeah i very

like just let me put it this way like

most of these people

they just ideologically gate keep

everything and they they have they're

they the biggest ideological whatever

fanatics about every fucking thing

my aesthetics today are not ideological

at all

they're only ever so there's only ever

subtle ideological references

in the s like for example fond winon's

aesthetic it's never direct okay

today

my as i take aesthetics very seriously i

take taste

very seriously uh

is high culture the opposite of pop

culture

yeah

yeah it is

um

that's like the longest

response i ever gave to one patreon

question ever

but

the popular paradigm where is burke

dude you know what you're not even a

member so i don't even care to talk shit

about you dude fuck you

fuck you for coming into my stream

three hours in it's like where is burke

i don't know dude there's been three

hours of the stream

you think the title is gonna be for the

whole fucking stream fuck you

what a stupid thing to say what a stupid

and annoying thing to say

what a stupid and fucking annoying thing

to say come into my stream and say

wow

um

i hate talking about aesthetics

because i hate all the posturing around

it

i hate people

who think they can have a status based

on their taste fuck you you fucking

worthless scum status should not come

from taste but from work what do you

make

you make good stuff then you should have

high status but uh i hate people who

posture about the shit that they're into

that's what i have to say like

um

yeah

but uh

20 2019 was where i started to be a

happy person in life

2017 to 2018

some of the most miserable years of my

life

not for anything external by the way

just spiritually like understanding

you know just really miserable like

no i'm really depressed trying to like i

was basically like a yogi at this time i

was like one of those

people in india who just roam around

with a giant beard searching for meaning

in life

and become ascetic they just renounce

all worldly things and just

that's pretty much what i was i would

like i would go to the fucking gym

for like two hours

just being like what does it mean to

begin lifting where do i muster the

motivation what does it mean to do this

what does that say about the connection

between mind and body

right where does it begin where does it

end

what does it mean to make the choice to

do this to muster the motivation to do

this like i would spend hours

contemplating that at the fucking gym

i'd go to the gym at like 2 a.m

and leave at five

just contemplating that shit

and all of my philosophical fucking

problems

in that one thing like

and i'd always do it i'd never ever skip

a day at the gym i'd always get my work

done

but before i start i'd like have to

muster

the motivation

from the intellect right

what was the answer

um

one day i

felt shame

that was the answer i felt shame

i felt shame because

i it dawned upon me that

things were still happening

even if i was doing nothing and i had to

contemplate what the motivation for

doing this was i was still doing

something by doing nothing

there's a deeper

duty

i have

it doesn't come from the intellect

but is somehow unconscious right

and

manifests in the form of shame

shame

was how i became happy again

shame is not just happy shame is what

gave me motivation to live again

shea marx talked about this too shame is

like the most

powerful force for a human being shame

is what awakens you shame is what makes

you

a dignified human being

so it was shame

but uh

i was told when i say i was totally

isolated too i was like

i never i never cared what another

person thought or said to me it's

between me and the world and god

whatever like every time someone spoke

to me

and or every time i read something on

the internet like on twitter or some

shit i had so much bitterness cause i'm

like

that's what i see in chat too a lot you

know it's like you're

you're just typing this because like it

sounds like something

someone on tv would say

that gives them legitimation so you're

saying it too because

you want to be like recognized

you know

which is so cringy

um

and i feel like a lot of people don't

really spend time

alone

you know you always like reference other

people you always reference some

authority or always represent some

community like you're never really

fucking

brave enough to be alone you know

let me put it this way how you guys ever

think about how much of your thoughts

come from somewhere else

how much of your thoughts aren't even

your own but just like come from

something else somewhere else

something else

someone else

how many of your thoughts actually come

from

your

place in the world

i do think i'm a cartesian in one sense

where it's like

i do i did have that i do believe in

standing around at at some point and

just saying

how do i fucking know anything

how do i how can i even trust my own

thoughts how can i even trust my own

intuitions

what if these are all demons

you gotta stand your ground somewhere to

be a man you gotta say like

the only thoughts

that i'm going to focus on and and um

entertain are the ones

that i can somehow

verify is true

now

what form does that verification take

obviously there's a lot of problems with

you know the way the enlightenment

decided to verify

the veracity of being in the form of

uh thought and in the form of you know

logic uh

forms of reason

rationalism and then you know or um

axioms right or then you know in the

case of kant

um

some type of categorical imperative

yadda yadda

but that doesn't have to be the only

form by which you verify the truth of

your thoughts

could also be in the form of an

aesthetic

it could also be in the form of whether

your thoughts

whether your mind

is somehow aligned with a deeper sense

of beauty in the world

and meaning and purpose

which is just intuitive right

but it's still this cartesian

filter between reality and unreality

um

or or with regard to being right

so i do believe in that cartesian like i

think therefore i am as an iblis thought

in islam

in one interpretation yeah i know what

you mean but

why don't you think it like this like

when you're just someone who lives in

our society for example and you're just

like

how many of your thoughts just come from

fucking mtv how many of your thoughts

come from some podcaster or some fucking

thing you see on tv it's some shit you

see on youtube like jake paul how many

of your thoughts are actually

how many of them just come from others

you know what i mean

where do you ground yourself where do

you ground your own fucking

sense of meaning and belief and

individuality and whatever right

so it's like

i get what you're saying but it's like

i kind of like there's also a good

schizo descarte who's like

the demons are not just the ones talking

to him about religion but like

mtv the tv

uh

the media

the internet everything is just like a

demon

the billboards outside on you know

everything everything around me is evil

and i have to take refuge in something

to begin somewhere

i think that moment is so crucial

and so indispensable

for a marxist feminist for a communist i

think it's if you don't go through that

experience

in some way and it can go wrong in a lot

of easy ways and it usually does go

wrong but you have to go through that

experience

or else i'll never take you seriously

no this is not la khan's understanding

of adulthood this is more like

no because for lacon becoming an adult

let's just say in the case of the male

situation

becoming a man

um

is precisely about this way you take

responsibility

for the

world of uh

the imaginary

through the signifier

take responsibility for it in some kind

of way

that's what it means to have

it right

we're tuned

sorry i'm not going to get

um

yeah continuing uh

voidburn thank you for being a patreon

you think america's first poets and

philosophers like

emerson and thoreau created a cultural

paradigm of skill for outdoormanship

recreational appreciation for nature i

read those philosophers in high school

and they had a big impact on me as did

hawthorne and poe

and would you prefer they bring back

american philosophers like this in

school

i don't know if they created it or if

they both came from the same source

but i do i would like to see them be

brought back in school as opposed to

like

i'm gonna say some shit that's gonna

like

you know it's gonna sound like uh

bigoted

but like i saw some curriculum shit for

english literature and it's like

new york stories of diverse cultural

backgrounds

of immigrant families and it's like you

know what

all that poetry does is give expression

to the

confusion and uh alienation that comes

with immigrating but can we have some

literature that gives expression to what

it

what it's like to live here what it's

like to be an american not just be

alienated from america but to be an

american can we have that

you know

i come from an immigrant family i know

that feeling more than most right

i'm sick of people who make

i'm sick of people who think that's art

it's somehow it's just it's so worn out

you know try and actually

develop

what it means to be an american

what america means

okay we're here now so now what you know

don't just say

oh when i was a kid

9 everyone would say that i'm a

terrorist or okay

that's not art that's just fucking

stupid you know we're here now you want

to go back i'm not going back

so we're here now let's make let's

appreciate the literature that's about

this country

benign when should we expect

announcements collab

uh i

not anytime soon but

believe it or not it it's not that

out of reach

thank you for being a patient thanks sun

cars with all things being a patron you

think the political movement of fred

hampton and the rainbow coalition is the

most exemplary marxist landless movement

in us history no

hampton's vision seems very sympathical

with the infrared vision and the notion

about a us vanguard must connect up to

the deeper essence and content of the

workers and rise above the divisive

social forums that it takes

okay so

look fred hampton was great

i shouldn't even have to say it he was

great right

but

i just wonder if people know this

that he was a kid

19 years old

he was 19. he was like 1920

19 or 20 years old right so he's more of

a symbol no fred hampton was not the

sixth head of marxism leninism okay

he was a

uh

he was a good leader

very impressive for his age obviously

but he was still a young kid you know

he's still a kid

he's about 19 or 20 years old you know

and the rainbow coalition

was promising but how did it turn out it

didn't turn out that well you know

no i don't think it's the most exemplary

marxist lenders movement in us history

and uh

i think that that has had a bad

influence on the present to be honest

all of the worst aspects

of that era

as

all the worst things have been carried

over the things that brought the

panthers down

are the things that the leftist worship

today

no i don't think that i think you know i

i think the most exemplary marxist

leninist movement was still

a good old classic cpusa

of the 20s and 30s

can you do an el

i5 explanation on your twitter exchange

with paul coxshot regarding concrete and

abstract labor what is an eli 5

explain like i'm 5 ok

yeah sure

so paul cockshot

seems to have this idea

that abstract labor refers to the way

labor is measured

and concrete labor our particular

instances of labor empirically

and so he's he has this very

metaphysical view of the theory of value

where for him abstract labor

is not about

the valorization of labor through the

value form

that's not what makes it abstract it's

not general commodity production that

makes labor abstract

it's the way labor is counted abstractly

through hours that makes it abstract

so he has this very strange idea because

i brought up electricity right well

electricity is also counted in an

abstract way and then he said well like

electricity is not a use value

electricity is abstract power and i'm

like you lost me you know

but yeah for him

labor is this

metaphysical force

that acquires abstraction

in an in a way that is not necessarily

social it's it's literally a force for

him for paul cox

labor is not a social substance

it is a literal natural substance it's a

substance like

electricity is a substance it's a

substance like

steam is a substance it's a sorry it's a

force like water it's a force like fire

it's a force like

uh

you know

it's it's a type of

naturalistic force

right

and i just disagree i think i try to

tell him

labor has no

privileged metaphysical significance

its significance comes from the social

form of

labor the contradiction between the

social form of labor and the form of

price

and

real labor that's it's that

contradiction that gives it significance

naturally speaking no it has no

significance

it has no significance at all

there's no privilege significance

whatsoever

you know

um

however

uh

labor is about the reproduction of

social forms okay

this reproduction is material but

without the context of the social form

there's nothing it's material in

reference to it's no longer a material

force

because it has no privilege metaphysical

significance over any other element of

nature it is only from the perspective

of the internal logic of a given social

totality

that labor can be said to be a material

force

and he accuses me of drawing from the

germans value form whatever school

is their continents germans are

continents so everything is them

socially

uh conditioned transcendental horizon

of reality is

uh

inescapable and that there's no reality

we can speak about outside of that it's

not what i'm saying okay but i am

obviously dialectic

and

he's undialectical he doesn't believe in

dialectics

before debating mr bear thank you so

much battalion characteristics for being

a patron

you mentioned that you study the occult

do you want to share with us which

traditions of occultism you delved into

in particular

look when most people talk about

occultism

they're talking about theosophy

talk about the blavatsky school of

theosophy so beyond that

um

there are much less

scandalous

whatever

schools of thought like sufism

i did study also gurjayev

or jai of the fourth wave theory

believe it or not i studied that isn't

that crazy

i studied gurjayev you know who gorjayev

is the armenian

this idea of the fourth way

there's a way of the yogi there's a way

of the fakur there's the way of the monk

and there's the way of

it's the title of one of my books

way of the work

but um

yeah i studied gurjayev

and

i studied some

medieval

islamic

esoteric traditions

ryan tracy thank you so much for being a

patron what do you think is an effective

way oh i studied them arthritic

mysteries i studied

stuff like that

yeah i i don't know i want to tell you

what do you think is an effective way

for communists to react to horrific

offense like what happened in buffalo

and texas

the discourse is obviously isn't

effective but it seems like there has to

be something for us to do in these

moments there's nothing we can do in

these moments nothing

nothing the only thing we can do is call

into question

shady facts

about what led led to those things

uh specifically on

certain platforms that the perpetrators

were using

and i'm not going to say anything more

than that but no there's nothing it

seems like there has to be something we

we for us to do

think critically about that question why

does it seem like there's something

for us to do because

it's vanity there's nothing we could do

about it

all we could do is criticize our culture

and our society and ourselves by

consequence

think critically about yourself

you know when i was in high school i got

out of high school and

i forget which shooting or atrocity it

was but like you know these things made

me

question myself i was like

is there any of that evil in me

like

how have i sinned how have i how am i

culpable in this just in terms of my

mentality

and my way of thinking and my

consciousness of the world like

how do people fall into that

state of mind and like

would it ever be possible for me to fall

into that state of mind

so i would really interrogate myself i'd

really think critically about my own

i'd have my own energy hard

i wouldn't externalize like we have to

do something guys no there's nothing we

could do about it there's nothing

you could start

looking in the mirror though you know

you could start questioning yourself and

asking

in what way are you culpable in this

shit

uh

in terms of your the things that you

that drive you right

marcus thank you so much for being a

patreon

one of the biggest uh how could in other

words how could you inspire someone

who falls into this sickness to get out

of the sickness you can't do that

if you don't understand or entertain the

possibility that that could be you right

marcus thanks for being a patron one of

the biggest apprehensions most

conservatives i interact with on the

discord have

which communism

is the aspect of religion especially the

ussr cracking down on the orthodox

church in its early stages what is your

view on the relationship between

communism and religion

um

dugan places the ussr's crackdown on

religion

within the uh

russian sorry the elliptical um

the ellipse

of archaeo modernity right which is

basically this is a repetition

of orthodox iconoplasm

cycles of destruction and rebirth

correspond to orthodox spirituality

so it's not some alien thing toward

orthodox christianity it's orthodoxy

itself gives rise to its own negation in

this way

that's how he put it

um

however as far as a broader

understanding of the relationship

between communism and religion

obviously initially this was a

relationship

of hostility

lenin had said

every socialist must be an atheist he

said it outright

marx and engels were not fond of active

atheists

they did say through the course of the

development of the workers movement

itself

religion would be superfluous you know

sorry

something else religion would be

superfluous so

in practice religion would be negated

right

and to me this view of religion stems

from

a

production of religion to the form it

had acquired in through philosophy

i don't think communists

had ever developed a uh sophisticated

view of religion

however in the

before angles frederick angles died

i think they were starting to

reappreciate that relationship why

because engels wrote about the

development of early christianity

and engels is here and he's saying holy

shit

no this the history of christianity is

so weirdly similar

to

the history of the socialistic and

communist movement that marx and i had

dedicated our entire lives to why is

that

where does why is the history of

christianity so similar to that why are

why is there such a clear analogy

between

us fighting the empire

and the christians were fighting the

roman empire what the hell was going on

so

i think they started to appreciate that

fact and i think that

that's the convergence that i represent

when i talk about

the compatibility of it's it's not a

retards will come to me and show me

quotes by marx and lenin denouncing

religion

you're a retard right

that's not the point the point is how

has

religion

how was it rediscovered

after apparently being negated by

communism how did communists rediscover

the essence of religion

that's what's important

there's a deeper essence of religion

beyond the apparent one that communists

seem to have negated there's still

something about religion

that

uh that imposes its significance which

should change our view of what religion

is

change our attitude toward religion

we have made too many assumptions about

what religion is because of philosophy

bounding it up with superstitions and

any specific uh prejudices about the

world

and specific you know

forms of retreat from from the world

ian fair thank you for being a patron

i've noticed you have recurring sleep

problems as someone who suffers from

chronic sleep issues i've had to deal

with memory loss and poor cognitive

functioning as a result

you seem

pretty mentally sharp do you have any

advice how to maintain mental sharpness

despite dealing with these problems when

you're not a doctor whatever it'd be

interesting to hear how you manage it

honestly i'm losing my sharpness myself

this is leftovers from when i was able

to sleep well

but uh

comes from being in this for a long time

i guess

having to defend the faith

with such precision and acuity

thank you so much being a patron there

seems to be a lot of confusion over this

between so-called communists today

online

so how do you

go about locating and identifying a

concrete working class in the 21st

century

my hair looks so fucked

um

we have to change

our understanding of the privileged

significance

betw of the class division between the

bourgeoisie and the proletariat

uh the concrete working class is not

hard to find it's a colloquial cultural

reality

uh that is usually people who are you

know working

grinding

or working heavy-duty heavy industrial

jobs so it's going to be defined

culturally but it as for the proletariat

relevant to marx and the communist

manifesto

that class division is an existential

kind of apocalyptic confrontation

which

reveals the essence of the development

of history itself all history not just

the one of capitalism

and it just becomes naked and apparent

and bare

uh when the communist party is being

sorry when the comics manifest was being

written specifically in england at the

time

there's a naked antagonism

now when they say this is the naked

class struggle it's very clear

that class struggle

had acquired a phenomenal

phenomenological significance that

there's something naked

as a social phenomena

it's a quality of phenomenology right

so the question is

when it is no longer naked

which it's not it's not naked and

apparent to us anymore

does that mean it never had any meaning

or significance

i disagree i think there is a definite

significance

that's not reducible to the phenomenal

form it had taken

it's because it's not nakedly apparent

to us anymore

it doesn't mean

uh that it cannot be discerned by the

divisive criticism

we can't take the proletariat for

granted we have to use criticism to

discern

a proletarian

the evolution of the marxist proletariat

throughout history in order to discern

its revolutionary significance in the

21st century

bulky i remember one of your streams you

made an offhand comment that went along

the lines of how the communist party

should make political changes not

economic changes because the economy is

done economic means not political ones

this line of singing sounds familiar

to you

could you expand

on it

yeah the development of the forces of

production is something that proceeds

according to its own

logic

not not because of voluntary voluntary

conscious interventions

now there does come to a point where

consciousness

becomes a factor in the economy through

the state state intervention

but

one must not

uh proceed with the wrong assumption

that

the role of the state in interfering in

the economy

it has replaced

the material reality of the economy as

if the economy had completely become

subsumed by the superstructure no

the economy never fully becomes subsumed

by the superstructure rather the

superstructures

newfound role in relation to the economy

uh compounds itself as a deeper material

relation of production

that gives rise also to another

superstructure entirely so in other

words let me put it this way

when the state takes on an increasingly

heavy-handed role in intervening in the

economy whether it's communist states or

through imperialism or through the

post-war american welfare economy state

whatever brentwood's whatever right

that does not mean the whole of the

economy has now been subsumed

by politics and by the state

it means the state has been subsumed

as a moment as a detail

and as an attribute

of the material economy

and that is why

we are witnessing the rise of

the end of liberal democracy quote

unquote because

we are in need of a superstructure

that can

correspond

to the

redundant and superfluous role of the

state in the economy

it has become a feature of the economy

itself it's become a material fact of

the economy that it's consciously

intervened

in to by the state

so there you go

aram mazdas thank you so much for being

a patron

what are your thoughts on widespread use

of clinical psychology and therapy today

does it have its uses or should it be

done away with it's basically like a

form of cope

that people do the main significance of

therapy is not

that anyone's actually being healed it's

more so

this kind of smoke and mirrors illusion

people have that i'm gonna go and talk

to someone who is licensed by some kind

of authority that they can fix my brain

mentally and that sense of guarantee

that you have that when you go see a

therapist they know what they're talking

about and they're gonna know how to fix

you

that's where 99 of the effectiveness in

putting your mind at ease comes from it

doesn't come from anything they're

actually doing it comes from the

illusion

that they know how to cure

your suffering

because they have the authority to from

that peace of mind they have that you

have that there's this authority that

knows about

you know

your problems

the truth is

your therapist doesn't know anything

about you they don't know anything about

your problems

and you're probably better off like

getting advice from

a relative

uh your parents are probably the most

important people to get advice from

and if you can't get it from your

parents you got to walk that path

on your own

just like your parents did

there's only so much advice and

authority can give you but

all the advice you need comes from your

parents and if your parents aren't

around

come from the next immediate relative

who's older than you who's been in your

shoes

and they're not going to give you advice

that's going to solve every

contemporary problem

but heroically that's your role that's a

newfound confrontation you have to

face the world of the present in ways

your parents never did and you have to

survive that

in your own way

that's what it means to be an adult

there comes a point where you can't

ask guidance you have to

do it on your own jay thank you for

being a patron

what do you hope your infrared's legacy

will be

uh transforming

the meaning of communism

in the west and in america in particular

der trisker thank you so much for being

a patron

i'm not going to read out this whole

comment i'm just going to respond to it

so i'm going to read it

uh

thinking about socialism i noticed

interesting irony isn't the supermarket

it's only probably going to exist

somewhat socialistic because your

commerce and trading is the best very

good guarantee population amazing

not individual supermarkets always do

his profit but although there's

necessity for these things so

yeah i mean you could just look at

uh you could look at um

that book about walmart

i i hate people so fucking much

if it wasn't for the fact that somebody

wrote a book about how walmart is like a

kind of socialist planning

imagine if i made a tweet about it and

how much people would make fun of me

walmart is socialist

oh oh it's okay we can say that now

because some fucking authority who's

accredited in a fucking university said

the same thing so it's okay to say it

now but if i were to say it as my own

independent person then i would have

been clowned on and considered a

ridiculous person

biff franz thank you so much

uh

yeah supermarkets

stores in general they're all they're

they're

socialized they're so stirred

they are they are 100 socialized and

it's almost like this is like the early

stage of socialism in the critique of

the gotham program

you know you

these stores sell goods

as an index of data and

distribution

it's not the margins of profit from the

selling of goods that keeps them running

that's a minority right

of what

profits they're raking in the majority

of the profit

comes from the fact that people are

privileging these supermarkets and

stores to get their shit from so let me

tell you this walmart isn't getting its

profit from the margins of sales

walmart mostly gets its profit because

people choose to go to get their shit

from walmart rather than target or

rather than somewhere else so it's that

monopoly role of being having a monopoly

on the distribution of goods that

walmart gets its profit from the profit

that it's getting from

uh from uh

from

from the margins on on the goods that

they're selling it's just

that's just for re the reproduction of

of the maintenance of the warehouse

that's not like the actual source of

capitalist profit

your recent expose on the history of

cposa was eye-opening for me

as an eastern european

i was always confused by right-wing

americans referring to mysterious evil

neo-marxists

it was fair to say that they are

referring to his neo-marxists or people

like angela davis who left the cbsa and

moved to the democratic party yes

yeah it's almost like right-wing

conspiracy theories they had

grains of truth in them

uh just we're dealing with these

ex-communists in the west who

host communists

who are the democratic party right

crack a democrat you'll find an

ex-maoist

and in this way they are correct in a

perverted sense

yeah they are

thank you so much for the being a patron

bulky thanks for being a patron

have you been paying attention to what's

going on libertarian party no

dave smith using the media and his big

audience to gather and direct large

amount of people in the party to weird

glowy woke attacks by the establishment

and strange twitter accounts they even

caught a libertarian takeover the

libertarian party yeah apparently

there's a weird libertarian

i didn't know about this apparently he's

trying to say the patreon guy he's

trying to say that

what we're doing with the communist

party is something weird is going on

with the libertarian party too where

like there's a lot of glowy attacks

similarities are just fascinating both

the forces that are trying to take back

the parties and return to their roots

and the establishment of the parties

that are fighting them and it's all

happening at the exact same time

interesting

nine

senior philosophy is called new

objectivity does have any connection to

the european aesthetic movement of the

same name yes that was the inspiration

no it wasn't the inspiration but it

coincidentally

uh

they mean the same thing

except new objectivity

was about the american era

and mine is about the chinese here

exoshell thank you so much for being a

patron what are your thoughts on

medicare for all

be honest i don't care i don't care

i don't really have

i thought this

people who think it's about healthcare

miss the point it's not about healthcare

it's about the drawing the right lines

talent side thanks for being a patron

how much do you read and do you have any

tips on how one can read intently i have

to get full sleep

truth if i can get full sleep i'll read

of a ferocious amount

i i used to read

multiple books

i don't know that's exactly i used to

read books a day i used to read entire

books in a fucking day

i used to consume a lot a lot

um

i don't do that anymore though now

if i like a book

i'll read like

a few paragraphs of it

and i'll understand the whole thing and

i won't read the whole thing

i i i have a very short patience now now

i just like

i glim and i skim

zolo thank you so much for being a

patron

have you perhaps heard of the hit game

among us

that's just the cringe question i'm

going to be honest and mila thinks about

being a patron

can you please go into more detail of

mongols building civilization

i know they weren't just the hordes of

monsters anglers have taught me my

entire life

um

yeah it's like you have to understand

dialectics you have to understand that

the inadvertent result of the mongol

conquests was basically integrating

the abstraction

the nomadicism posed to sedentary

civilizations

strictly as far as the abstraction of

space is concerned that these are just

nomads who don't belong to any specific

territory but belong to the abstract

territory the steplands that are between

civilizations

that level of abstraction

had become an object of

uh

statehood

which means

for the first time

states are defining their territories

in discrete and definite ways

they're drawing a line they didn't do

that before they said this exactly is

our territory right that exactitude and

certainty

comes from the

abstraction

that

nomadic of the nomads basically

imposed to the sedentary civilizations

the abstraction acquires the quality

of universality

strictly through an exhausting

a kind of eastern closure of the

frontier

the mongols basically conquered the

world

at which point it was not possible to

really be nomadic anymore

suddenly the whole world is under the

blue sky of tengri

you can't be a nomad anymore now you are

definitely a part

of some kind of civilization however

this civilization

being the

heir of uh

the rule of genghis khan

for whom the entire world is under his

dominion

each civilization

from the mughals

to the safavids to the turks

governments i mean to the

russians to the chinese

now

buy for that universality even though

their territory does not encompass the

entire world

the abstraction of the world as some

kind of limitless territory

defines the conception of political

space

they become universal empires

this strict sense

universal in the sense of

defining their boundaries abstractly

by the way when you define your

boundaries abstractly suddenly

what defines

a member of your civilization also

becomes abstract or at least becomes

universal in some sense

your political sovereignty is no longer

defined

strictly by a certain religion or

certain ethnicity or a certain group but

as as its object some kind of universal

humanity that cuts across all those

things now the important question is

this

how does that

universality of the mongols differ from

the one of the european enlightenment

to me

the lost mongol universalism

was an abstraction towards the benefit

of the doubt which means

it doesn't mean we assume

all of humanity is an indiscriminate

abstraction devoid of roots and culture

and differences and so on it's just that

we won't make assumptions

about them

in our state

we will let those differences arise

organically

and in this way

there's a univ

unity between the universal and the

particular where

you're not making any assumptions about

the nature of the state but suddenly

you start to be assimilated you the

mongol conqueror

in the yuan dynasty

got the persian one but and

suddenly

these mongol rulers

start to assimilate and be become

civilized

by the civilization below

uh

it's

determinate universality

it's still leaving room and space for

dialogue and understanding and

change with other cultures and fusion

but it's somehow acquiring a determinate

form always already commit with a

determinate form the european

universality rather tries to ground its

universality

by eliminating the particularity that

grounds it and replacing it with one

that's contrived by the state itself

but if you want a quick answer i mean

the mongols if you look at the cities

that were the fruit of the mongol empire

if you look at

the contributions

in the form of this

science and technology and intellect and

literature and art

silk road and the flourishing that came

with that i mean some of the greatest

and most beautiful cities in the history

of mankind are the legacy of the mongols

and the heirs of the mongols timorous

it's not the mongols

that

to me

have the most privileged significance

i'm a hegeli so for me as a hegelian

something to have privileged

significance

only takes form

when it repeats

has to happen twice

history must happen twice for it to be

significant

it's the timarus it's timmer

timmer the heir of genghis khan who

wanted to repeat what genghis khan did

and uh

revive the mongol empire

that is where

uh the mongol modernity that i talk

about becomes the most apparent

so timur not genghis

is my hero well genghis is my hero as

well but timur is my

my idol is tim

would you ever make a video game if so

what would it be

yeah i have something to say about this

because i'm always bitching about it

like why didn't they just do this why

don't they just do that

um

i would never make one but like what

would i think what game should be made

uh just from a perspective like what i

want

be a cool game

let's just make like gary's mod but make

it

updated and

something like that i just want to fuck

around at this point i just want a game

where i could just limitlessly fuck

around

you know i just want to like

spawn npcs and fuck around with them but

don't make me just do make it new

because gary's not too old and clunky

and slow and shit so just make like a

new clean version of that and like

make it um

make it fucking you know

take it like that or

make a game like no man's sky but like

add combat and

add

like a star trek thing where you could

like have cruise

because i played with my friends once

and it was like what the fuck you can't

even like walk around in the ship

make a cool like space game it's so

solid i don't care make a cool space

game but like have like you know

have like like

combat and npcs and like fighting

pirates and shit and like fighting like

i don't fucking know

cities and shit

stars now that game's too fucking

complicated

i'll never play that game

uh would you

another question can you please talk

more about the concept of brotherhood i

feel these dark times boys are isolated

and i love abrahamic unity approach that

you advocate many apparently live so

much

the loving brotherhood

shia islam

um

i really don't say comrade i say brother

for some reason i don't like saying

comrade because it's to me comrade has

become it went from being like this very

militant way of

referring to each other

to this cringy like

cute

androgynous minions communism all little

cute squirrels comrade comrade we're all

these little cute minions running around

and we're all comrades because we're all

children you know children are not

children are not like um

children are all uh

they're not like

they're not sexually developed you know

what i mean they're like their children

so

yeah children don't

children don't have a clear

gender they do they are they

i'm fucking tired it's two hours of

sleep

they don't

have a clear like um

place in the symbolic order as la khan

would put it

like a child is not a man or a woman

you're just like this

you're just like a child you're all the

same children are pretty much all the

same you know

sexuality they don't have a sexuality

that's what i mean children don't have a

sexuality they're all the same pretty

much right

so the word comrade has come to mean

like oh yeah yeah it's cringy it's

cringy that's not mature that that's not

like empowering at all

because you're not even like addressing

the differences between men and women

that still exist

you're just like pretending they don't

and that we're all children which we're

not

npc thank you so much for being a patron

what do you mean by the romanticism of

the gas engine and do you think the

internal combustion will go away

uh the romanticism of the gas engine

comes from the fact that gas

comes from nature pretty much well no

it's

fossil fuels come from nature and

they're refined in an unnatural way i

guess but so gas is not coming from

nature but like

still um

it's not a rational form of energy

it's just a pure form of energy right

and the romanticism comes from like oh i

got my old beater here my diesel and you

know you just have to understand

american culture pretty much

there's like a romanticism of like

like that gunp you know that's i don't

know you gotta get it you know again

will the internal combustion engine go

away i i don't know i hope it doesn't

because i'm a romantic

i'm a big romantic and their partner

who's i'm romanticizing is your mom

that's all not not you patrons of course

i'm not talking about the patrons i'm

talking about the chat

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