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Yo!

Estrella Stani with the 10! I see you, bro.

Four hours ago.

What's up, bro?

Appreciate you.

Mordor was good with the 10.

What's up, bro?

We crabbing it up before anything begins.

That's what I like to see.

And then Brigham. What's going on? Brigham. No, this. And then Brigham.

What's going on, Brigham?

No, this guy's not Brigham.

This is Birmingham.

Okay, Birmingham.

What's up?

I'm seeing things.

Juzon, Orvo, boo-gu-boo-go-boo.

Suiz.

What's up, guys?

What up, y'all?

What up, y'all what up y'all? What up y'all?

NRG bro

thank you for the five. I appreciate you bro.

What's up?

What's up?

So guys, I don't know if you noticed this, but I realized something about my chair. This is too high up before, right?

This is like good.

Before it was too high up, now it's down.

It's very down.

I lost a few inches,

but I feel it looks better.

Anyway, y'all,

I want to talk about a lot of things, actually.

So bear with me and let's talk about it. Okay. I have, I was very angry today because I was thinking about Zoran. I was very, very angry. I had a lot on my mind that I wanted to put into a tweet. The tweet was not possible. Okay. It was too long form. So I'm going to actually explain that in this stream. And I'm in a very violent mood. I'm in a very violent mood. I don't have a lot of patience tonight. So I think that if you do not understand my words, there will be beatings.

I have people posted up out of every single viewer's home right now.

If I see that you're not processing what I'm saying, if I see

that you don't get it, if the education is not going the way it should be, your home will be

broken into and there will be baseball bats, broken legs, and

this is a direct,

very real threat

because it's just like the snap of my...

No, guys, call it off!

I'm sorry, every time I snap my fingers, they're going to go in,

and you're guys going to get beatings.

We're not understanding.

So, this is the cult.

This is how we do things.

And look, I want

you to take a few things away from this.

First of all, I think you should probably make a video

out of this stream or something.

Because I want you guys to get this and I don't want to

repeat myself okay Johnny what's up I want you to understand and walk away with two things after the

stream okay and I want you to keep the two things in the back of your head again I don't want to

repeat myself keep these two things in the back of your head. Again, I don't want to repeat myself.

Keep these two things in the back of your head, okay?

Two things I want you to walk away with.

Well, three things.

Okay, the first thing is I want us to crab it up in here.

That's a given.

The second thing. Sorry, the first thing that I want you guys to keep in mind, keep in the back of your head, okay?

I want you to properly understand why it is impossible, why it is impossible why it is impossible

for the future

of the left wing in America to be with

Zoran Mamdani. I want

you to properly understand that.

I don't like your guys's

overly ideological

response to Zohran because it makes us look like a sect.

Okay?

You guys currently don't have a good argument against Zoran.

You just don't.

I haven't seen anyone produce a good argument against Zoron.

What you guys are saying is that Zoron is a Democrat and he's a shill and he's a this and he's

a that and he's a whatever.

Can you not sound like a cult?

I know we are a cult. Can we just not sound like a cult? I know we are a cult.

Can we just not sound like one?

Okay.

So you guys don't even have the argument.

I'm going to give you the argument in this stream.

Okay?

And it's very simple math,

and I want you to understand it

from the perspective of realism.

Okay?

I hate ideology.

I'm against ideology.

I'm going to give you the argument from the perspective of materialism and realism.

Okay?

That's the first thing.

The second thing is I need, we need to refine our reaction and our response to the Zoron phenomena in light of the

wider shifts facing the nation and our strategy, okay? Because I'm also dissatisfied with our

response. I'm dissatisfied with my messaging, your messaging, everyone's messaging.

And I think that we do need to reflect and have a more intelligent response and understanding

of the Zoron phenomena, the hype around it, the conversations it's driving.

And again, you know, if you watched my stream, people think, oh, you skip Thursday stream.

No, I didn't.

I had a stream with RBN.

So if you watched my RBN stream, I just, you know, didn't get any subscriptions for that stream.

Anyway, but I did stream.

You know, I technically did stream.

And also, I was on a plane, so I couldn't stream Thursday.

But in any case, what I'm trying to say is that if you watched my stream with RBN, you would have heard me talk about how I'm pretty stumped by the Zoron phenomena in that like, why is this happening again? We didn't think this would happen again. So there needs to be some self-criticism there.

And I've thought about it, and I want to talk about that.

So these are the two things.

One, why Zoran, from the perspective of realism, is a dead end.

I just want you to have the proper logic and the proper, not just the

argument for propaganda purposes. I want you to understand why it's impossible and why we go with

the strategy that we are. We're not pursuing the strategy that we are because we're purity fetishes

and that we care about ideology so much. We're pursuing it because

it's genuinely the only possible strategy for the left, not just for communists, not just for

Marxists, just anything that's left-wing in general. Our strategy is the only possible one,

and I'll explain why.

And then the second thing is going to be the messaging. We need to have stronger,

better messaging when it comes to the Zoron phenomena, like straight up.

Like, we need to, like, not be so cringe in our response to it.

And we need to reflect upon... So I'm going to start with the first thing, and then the second thing, okay?

So I want everyone to follow me very, very carefully.

I want you to follow my words very carefully.

I want you to follow my words very carefully. I want you to

make me so I don't have to repeat myself.

Right? Again, if you don't

understand what I'm saying, if the education

doesn't dawn upon you,

if you're not able to

process, if you're just able to process,

if you're just like sitting there,

you know,

with low attention span,

the baseball bats are outside,

all right.

Anyway, let me get right into it.

Okay,

so basically,

um,

how did Zoran, okay, what is the problem facing the American left?

Okay?

So if you're gonna like start a video and clip this shit, this is, I guess this is where you would start, right?

Why has the American left not been able to make a dent or impact on U.S.

politics in decades? And why is that from the perspective of realism? Okay, so the first thing I

want to say is that a lot of people think that politics is about being able to enact the policies that you want to and that you begin with policy. So I have a policy that I want to make people's lives better. And they see politics as a vehicle with which to realize policies.

That's not Marxist. It's just wrong.

Okay, politics is class struggle.

It's about the supremacy of one class over another.

Whether it's to pass policies, whether it's to pursue plans, planned economics,

whether it's to

have a strategic

position that's different, like for

national defense, like anti-imperialism.

But it's

about class warfare.

It's about one class asserting itself at the expense of another. And it's about class warfare. It's about one class asserting itself at the expense of another.

And it's about sovereignty, you know.

And it's about reconstituting popular sovereignty.

So the goal is not actually policy.

The goal is sovereignty.

The goal is not policy.

The goal is to more or less create a type of sovereignty that can facilitate popular will, okay, more effectively than the current system, right? So that new, yeah, a new path,

there's so many bright ideas people can have about policy.

It's not that important.

We should see the state as a kind of means of production in a way,

in that it's owned by others i mean you can have whatever

good policy ideas you want but in who's in who benefits and in whose interest so you have to

think in terms of class struggle that's the first thing okay it's not about having a bright idea

and wanting to get it done it's about who is the state machine serving?

Who is the state serving?

What is power being used on behalf of and for what?

So if you're a Marxist, you have to understand in this country there's a conflict of interest.

There's a class distinction.

The interests of the bourgeoisie, the interest of

the proletariat, interest of the establishment, the interest of the people, right? You can think about it

in these ways. But there's a rift. I mean, for example, you know, you can say, well, is it an

America's interest to invade Venezuela, like Nick Fuentes says? Well, it's certainly in the interest of the American bourgeoisie, but for the American people, for the American workers, it is in their interest? No, it's not. It's very much not in their interests because that strengthens the, because what's going

on to the American working class? Again, deindustrialization. They're being priced out of their homes.

They're being emiscerated into dead. They're having their futures and their livelihoods destroyed,

and it's a form of class warfare. So class warfare is a reality, and everything

has to be understood through the lens of the class war, right? So that's what politics is. It's

class warfare. This is just basic Marxism. So I want to clarify that so people understand what does it mean

to have left-wing politics? Well,

left-wing politics

is revolutionary

politics. Let's just call it what it is.

And what I mean by that is it's a

politics that represents and

articulates change that is in at least in the direction, right, of a comprehensive radical transformation of the foundations of popular sovereignty, of the economic system we live under, right, of the prevailing economic institutions, political institutions, all of these need to undergo a kind of revolutionary change, right? And there are no illusions about, you know, being able to reform the system if you're left wing. There's no illusions about that. And even in the reformists think you can reform the system to change in that way. But the left is always about, you know, being in a position that is at odds with or in contradiction to the status quo in some kind of way.

And so that's just a very minimal left wing. Like the left wing believes there needs to be a comprehensive transformation or the left wing is the party of movement the left wing thinks that for example we call ourselves a democracy right we call ourselves a democracy the USA's democracy well a left wing position would basically be okay if we're a democracy, the USA's democracy. Well, a left-wing position would basically be, okay,

if we're a democracy, we need to address the material premises of democracy. Like, okay,

we live in a new age, though. If we live in a new age though if we live in a new age democracy

has to adjust to a new age for example and there are those so so there so the left wing is always

about it's a direction of change but not change, but the adaptation of what already is to changes that I've already happened.

I don't want to get too much into this.

This is kind of good.

Fuck!

Every fucking time this piece of shit microphone fucking falls on me.

Anyway, guys.

Um... of shit microphone fucking falls on me anyway guys um let me continue okay so uh left wing position like the left is positioned against the system that's just the truth the left

is supposed to be positioned against the system and the left is supposed to stand for

comprehensive change in a way that's positioned against the system so comprehensive change position against the system

and the status quo like i guess that's this simplest definition you can have of the left right

okay great so why has left wing politics failed in america for decades why is it not able to happen okay because there's

people who want and and who want comprehensive change in a way that contradicts the prevailing system

so for example that can be Bernie Sanders and Medicare for All.

Medicare for All was a left-wing proposal for politics, even if European countries already have it, for a number of reasons.

Some people don't see this, and I'll have to explain it to you if i

can right well well it changes the logic of you know what of of how you think how we should be

thinking about our responsibility you know for it in it does introduce a

kind of socialistic logic right and that's what made it so and and also it it challenges the

pharmaceutical industries it challenges big pharma these established entrenched monopoly monopoly interests. So the system, the status quo, it's going against that in some kind of way. It's shaking it up. It's challenging them. So I have no problem calling these things left wing. I have no problem calling Bernie Sanders left wing. I have no problem at all.

You know, at least in 2015.

I'm not here to purity test and say, well, he wasn't good on this.

He wasn't on... I'm not actually a fucking idiot, okay?

I live in reality. I'm not living in la la land okay and so why has that failed though

like why has that failed just something as simple as medicare for all like why can't we have

medicare for all why can't we have Medicare for all?

Why can't we have free

college? You know, why can't we have

things that, I guess,

you know, we're champion

under the American system, I guess,

in the 19th century, under American industrialization, where the government basically will pay for most of the kind of costs of doing business, like as Michael Hudson puts it.

Why is that impossible?

Like, what's the issue, right?

And I'm not saying why is the system unable to fulfill that?

Why is it that if you're a politician running on a platform to affect such modest reforms and changes?

Oh, so's what's up? You're a politician and you're running on a platform to affect very modest changes.

Why is it so difficult and impossible if you're doing so from a left-wing perspective, right?

This is kind of what I want to address. I'm not interested in like ideological

stuff. I'm not interested in gibbering or terminology. Just straight realism. Why is that impossible?

Well, you have to understand politics as a balance of different social forces and the ways in which different political leaders can employ those forces as leverage, at least in this case in the game of electoral politics. So politics is really about the balance of leverage and social pressure. That's all it is. It's a balance of leverage and it's a balance of social pressure. So for the left wing, what is the balance of leverage and the balance of social pressure?

Historically, what is it?

Well, Bernie was running for president, okay?

So there is this two-pinser kind of struggle he was faced with, right?

Where, okay, the Democratic Party, on an ideological level, you know, represents people who believe in progressivism.

So Democrats ideologically are more likely to agree with Bernie Sanders because it's kind of an extension of the, you know, Obama, and it's progressive and it's enlightened. And if you're from an educated background,

you're probably more likely to not have the crazy prejudices

about socialism that uneducated people do.

So if you're educated, you're going to realize,

well, actually, Scandinavia has health care.

Other countries have health care.ernie's not a communist

you know we kind of all saw this in 2015 we saw the intelligentsia come out

and basically defend bernie from the dumb peasant stupidity

of various you know American conventional ignorances about socialism. And we all saw it. So I hope you understand what I'm talking about when I say that the intelligentsia ideologically, at least that face value doesn't really have a problem with the left wing.

The Democrat intelligentsia doesn't have a problem with such left-wing proposals.

Okay.

At face value.

I mean, at least at the...

There's a reason, for example, Bernie came from the Democrats and not the Republicans. This is what I'm trying to say. Okay, but... he what he was proposing was fucking with people's money okay so to just i'm just telling you this

from a perspective of realism and if you're a someone who's even nominally left wing what i'm

saying should not be controversial well the democratic Party is a machine that runs on donations from very big donors who have a lot of money. And the Democratic Party really does represent the interests of entrenched financial business and corporate interests. I mean, they absolutely do.

What I'm saying is not radical. It's not outlandish. It's not like a cult. It's not like some loony stuff.

Absolutely. The Democratic Party is beholden to entrenched

corporate hegemonic interests

like they straight up just are okay it's just it's a fact

this is a fact of the Democratic Party

okay

it's also true for the Republican Party. It's oftentimes the same, the same classes, actually, that prop up both at the level of funding and lobbying, okay, and donations. So there's a reason the Democratic Party will never be, you know, that radical.

There is a limit to how far you can push the Democrats left

because there's a material constraint at the level of who do the democratic politicians actually represent who props

them up who grooms them into office who controls the democratic party machine well it's the people

who have the resources and the money it's the the capitalist class. And what Bernie was advocating and

what any left wing would be advocating for, even if it's a modest reform, even if it's something

small, is going to contradict the interests of the Democratic Party.

So we know that Bernie is advocating things that are opposed to what Republicans advocate for,

but they're also against what the Democratic Party mainstream was comfortable with and okay with.

And that's because Big Pharma owns the Democratic Party, right?

Just like they own the Republican Party and the insurance companies.

And we all saw how that played out, you know.

So what actually happened?

Well, the Democratic Party did two things.

One is that they out, you know, they out-lefted Bernie.

That was a very minor thing that they did.

And that's the thing I think leftists actually exaggerate too much.

They employed identity politics.

So when Hillary Clinton, you know, started talking about feminism and transgender rights and intersectionality and saying,

well, you're just a Bernie bro and this is class reductionism.

You know, you had the dirtbag left, you know, versus the, you know, that was where the left liberal distinction kind of emerged.

But I think leftists pay too much attention to that, that kind of employment of leverage by the Democrats.

When the Democratic mainstream made use of various fanciful

intersectional and feminist and LGBT

progressive theories,

what that did was not actually

turn any like electoral base and any significant capacity against Bernie,

what it did was cause confusion among the leftist intelligentsia.

It created ideological confusion and doubt among the leftist intelligentsia. That was the only purpose of it. It's not like it was

actually rhetoric that reflected contradictions and shifts when it comes to the balance of leverage

through the employment of various different social forces.

So it was just an ideological damage that was taken.

You know, the ideology HP suffered a little bit from the Bernie camp.

Not much else.

The real leverage that the Democratic Party employs that they still employ, which they

employed originally, and which is always the only meaningful leverage that they have, is

the Republican Party.

Okay, so that's what I want you to focus on.

I want you to think of three, for now, just think of three different actors in U.S. politics.

The Democrats, the Republicans, and the left. Okay okay the left is sandwiched in the middle

strategically because the left will fight the democratic party mainstream but the democratic but

the left is the underdog.

Okay, so the Democratic Party mainstream already has it.

They already have solid lines drawn on the maps.

They already have a solid electorate.

They already have a solid machine going.

They already have a convention. They already have have a convention they already have the donors the money the resources and it's the let the burden is on the left to change that or to take that from the democrats right

so the order of leverage the balance balance of leverage, I should rather say, is such that the Democrats can actually kind of team up with the Republicans or the right wing indirectly to corner the left. If Democrats employ right-wing rhetoric that would be typical of a Republican against the left, they can actually get away with it.

Because while the left can scream and pout you know hey you sound like a

republican you sound like a republican all the democrats have to say is basically like well fuck you

you know um because i'm the only alternative to the Republicans right now.

You need me to defeat the Republicans.

The left needs the Democratic Party to defeat the Republican Party.

That's the order of leverage.

So Democratic establishment and the Democratic mainstream can always indirectly channel the already existing prejudices of the Republican Party and the Republican Party base to silence the left and keep them in check hey if you either choose us or the republican

now the left can see no you sound like a republican you sound right wing and the democrats can say

maybe i do bitch maybe i do but it's either me or it's them.

So even after Bernie, there was rigged against him, you know, when it came time for elections, that's literally what the Democrats, that's all they had to say.

Yeah, I did you dirty, but it's either going to be me or it's going to be Trump.

So every election cycle, this is what Democrats do

to the left. They employ

leverage that comes from the right.

And they use the right

wing to corner the left.

So the Democratic Party

uses the indirectly...

So the Republican Party, how does the Republican Party fight the left? It's so easy. Republicans have a monopoly on very poor rural infrastructure. That rule infrastructure for education, like churches the school systems a local radio hosts and local propagandists and media and all this kind of stuff that the billionaires will fund from the republican side and that that monopolizes the rule kind of base from the hinterlands, right?

And it's very easy for Republicans to just, you know, use the social leverage they have from primarily, you know, blue collar working people

and just dismiss the left using that. I mean, it's so easy. It's the easiest thing in the world,

right? The burden is on the left to have to explain, know who the fuck are you you're you're a

nobody but the democrats do that indirectly rather than directly the democrats will you know

they'll have dog whistles to the right wing rhetoric rhetoric, and they'll get away with it.

Because think about this from the perspective of realism and leverage, not principle.

Of course, Democratic, look, nothing is better than a Democrat for a Democratic politician when it's a contested close race between Democrats and Republicans.

Think about it this way.

Nothing is better for a Democratic politician than to be given the opportunity to distance themselves from the left and it's absolutely

true it's absolutely true that a slava thank you so much for the five appreciate it so much

and it's absolutely true that it works to their favor.

If you are a Democrat running in a Republican district, and it's a close call, you can use right-wing

rhetoric against the left.

Because think about it.

Who are you competing over?

What base are you competing over?

You're competing with the Republicans over the same base.

The right-wing and prejudiced, you know, nominally republican or centrist electorate is not going to punish democrats for being right wing relative to the left that's not going to happen now leftists may say that they're going to punish Democrats for it. I remember, for example, leftists said that they're going to punish Hillary, they're going to punish Biden in 2020, and nothing happened. It doesn't matter. Leftists are not a popular social base. The popular

social bases are monopolized by the Democrats and the Republicans. The left right now is mainly

just fanciful intelligentsia. Now it's acquiring more of a base among indebted students.

Let's just say students.

That's not enough, okay?

The classes and forces that the left currently represents is not a national subject.

It's more like a subject that can animate and and have potential to lead the national subject but by themselves they don't have leverage, okay?

As the left does not have leverage by itself.

It really doesn't.

There's young people and there's students, but young people and students are not leaders.

So they don't have any independent way to utilize the let well

we're trying to change that admittedly but for now up until this point they do not have any

independent precedent for utilizing their leverage within politics.

Okay?

This is a fact.

This is just absolutely a fact.

So does everyone understand what's going on here? The left will try to

challenge the Democratic

establishment in mainstream. All the Democratic

establishment and mainstream has to do

is indirectly siphon

the leverage that comes from the right to totally

corner and squash the left.

Okay?

When you think about it, Grant, thanks.

Appreciate it, man.

When you think about it,

lawn guy with the four.

What's up, man?

Thank you.

So, when you think about this,

carefully, okay?

The left is the one without leverage. Republicans have leverage.

Democrats have leverage. It's the left that republicans have leverage democrats have leverage it's the left that

doesn't have leverage if the left ever gets to the point of challenging the democratic party

all the democrats have to do is siphon leverage from the right.

Democrats just have to go right, and they'll take some from the Republicans, and it'll be fine.

That's exactly what Biden did in 2020, by the way.

It's exactly what he did.

And he won.

He won, supposedly, unless you think it was rigged, which maybe it was, who knows.

But there's precedent for that maneuver to be very successful.

So that's why the left wing in America isn't able to exist. They don't have leverage. They don't have their own base.

Left-wing ideas are not native to the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party has a very, you know, but I think that the right wing, sorry, the Republicans in their own way, I'm not going to even get into that about, you know, right wing dissidents. But needless to say, look, both the Democratic Party and the Republican Party, there is a hard constraint on the agenda. You don't even have to think of it in left versus right wing terms. Just understand there are hard constraints on how far they can be pushed in whatever political direction. And the only common denominator is that they have to fulfill the interests of their donors. They have to fulfill the interests of the capitalist class. I mean, it's just a fact. For example, if you are on the right and you want to shut down immigration. Well, there's a hard constraint as far as, you know, how successfully you're able to push for that within the Republican Party,

because the Republican Party also has to fulfill the interests of the capitalists who need

cheap labor. Okay. So that's a hard constraint that's baked in based on class warfare and nothing

else. So rather than think of America, so there's an idealist understanding of U.S. politics that it can be pushed left or it can be pushed right.

And it can only be pushed the only pendulum, the only kind of wiggle room for change is based on the logic of class struggle.

It's not based on receptivity to ideas. It's based on class struggle and the order of leverage. So when politicians need the support of, you know, interest that might come at the expense of capitalists, but will, are certain to give the necessary concessions to a base that otherwise will vote for another candidate.

That's a class warfare going on.

That's the kind of thing that's going on that's relevant.

You know, if Trump is going to lose his election, unless he gives the working class some concessions that are at least not immediately in the interest of the capitalist class, he'll do so. And that's what happened in 2016. You know, the America First policies were not immediately in the interest of the capitalist class. So it was a concession to, you know, populist MAGA base. But eventually they were adjusted and

tweaked and refined so that they would

fulfill the interest of the capitalist class

immediately. But

there was a class warfare

thing going on,

which is why Trump was like

this new thing in 2015,

2016, you know, in a way similar

to Bernie, right?

But class warfare is the common denominator.

So,

circling back, does everyone understand

the thing about

how the left just doesn't have leverage. Like, the Democratic Party,

if it's ever challenged, can just draw from the Republican Party as leverage to use against the left.

Because the left cannot take on the Republican Party by itself.

And that's it. The left can't take on the Republican Party by itself.

Now, you may say, well, can the Democratic Party take on the Republican

Party without the left? So Hassan Piker and other kind of like leftist thinkers have been saying, no,

they've been saying the reason Kamala lost is because the Democratic Party is losing the left and therefore cannot confront the Republican

Party because they're losing the support of the left and you need the support of the left

to confront and challenge the Republican Party.

Now, this argument is contradicted by what happened in 2020, for starters, okay?

But the problem with it is that even if it was true let's just assume it was true even if it was all that proves is that the democrats need to give leftist voters the illusion that they're necessary and that they have leverage.

But because the left wing doesn't have any independent pressure that it can exert on the Democrats in a consistent way,

what's to stop Democrats

from just promising leftist things

to get elected

and then totally just

forgetting about it

the minute they get into office.

Who's going to hold them accountable?

I mean, they have the monopoly on the leverage the power the machine they you know they they have the money the resources what our left is going to

do threaten to no longer vote for democrats because they're not delivering on their promises to them.

They can, but then when election season turns around, all Democrats have to do is just promise shit again.

And, you know, they'll be duped, just like they were with Zoron himself.

You know, yeah, they're easy to scam.

Very easy to scam.

So it's an issue of leverage A, which I identify.

It's an issue of leverage and just not, the left is just not had enough time to like have a subject,

a mass subject.

It doesn't have its own independently defined base

because, and this is the second thing,

it doesn't have its own sovereignty.

It doesn't have its own power.

It doesn't have its own sovereignty. It doesn't have its own power. It doesn't have its own ability to use leverage and force in an independent capacity. It doesn't have its own organization. It doesn't have its own party. It doesn't have its own authority. That's the word. It doesn't have its own authority.

So, that has been the story from Bernie to now. That's why the left has been dead. And it has been dead. And I'm going to have to repeat this, but I made a grave miscalculation. I said that it's dead, and it's just dead, and that's it. And we're just, it's a new chapter.

There's going to be this massive political realignment.

That's what I've been saying.

But what happened in New York City with Zoran Mamdani and how that's affecting U.S. politics. Well, how was the left able to prevail in New York

City? Okay. Well, here's the thing. If there's no Republican republican threat if democrats are unable to utilize that leverage that they get

from the republican party does the left have a chance to win?

Actually, yeah, they do.

If there's no threat from the Republican Party,

if there's no Republican Party at all, and it's like not even a thing that exists,

you know,

you can have whatever circus you want, basically, you know,

it's absolutely possible that you can get a left-wing figure like Zoron, left-wing, I guess,

to win. I mean, yeah, you can. I mean, there's no Republicans.

There's no... And that's not because, you know, leftists cannot win Republicans. It's because

the Democratic establishment and machine doesn't have the ability to take leverage from the Republican base and use it against the left.

So if they don't have that leverage, then people like Zoran do have a chance to win the election, okay, for sure.

But let me tell you the paradox, okay?

And I hope everyone's following me very clearly right now.

I hope you're following me very clearly right now. I hope you're following me very clearly.

The paradox is that the only way

for the left to win, I guess,

within the Democratic Party,

is in the strongholds of the Democratic Party

like solidly blue cities

or solidly blue states

but what's the problem with that? Well understand the problem with that you need to understand

the role of the democratic party and the republican party respectively the democratic party is

directly the party of the hegemony, the CIA, and

just the mainstream.

At least since Obama. I would argue

probably since Clinton,

but let's just say since Obama.

And the Republican Party,

you know, let's say since Nixon, relies upon a strategy that is like quasi-Maoist, the Republican Party captures the hinterlens and uses that as leverage.

So the Democrats capture the centers of the U.S. empire and the centers of the hegemony,

and the Republican Party captures the hinterlands, the periphery, the countryside, the countryside, the small towns.

Small towns. What about Reagan? Well, what the... Tell me what the fucking Reagan Democrat is.

It's exactly what I'm saying.

Don't fucking use all caps with me

some stupid ass shit

anyway

so Republicans

are usually a party in insurgency

not not really

but like that's

how they

that's what they're like a controlled opposition

Republican Party is a controlled opposition

you want to think of it that way

it's a controlled opposition to the

CIA okay more or less that's what it is

and it just depends on how you define opposition

and mainstream but I would say like

the media academia

you know the major institutions

of civil society the major centers of power like new york city

you know these are pretty blue and pretty democrat okay and the republican party at least before Trump, I mean, it was much less contentious, but since Trump really accelerated that conflict, you know, in particular.

So Republicans are controlled opposition, okay?

That's their function.

They're just controlled opposition.

And the paradox of the left and zoran momdani is that the only way it can win is if it does so in the core and within the citadels of the hegemony.

So the left has a better... Can I put it this way?

The left has a better chance of winning

within the CIA

than it does

an armed insurgent militia in the backwoods of America.

They have a better chance of winning the FBI than they do, you know, some insurgent workers' movement outside.

The left has a much better chance to win inside the empire. Because inside the empire, the other Democrats cannot use Republicans as leverage because the base of the republican

party is in the periphery far away from the centers of power and control of the empire

far away from wall street and holly Hollywood and the mainstream media

and the big think tanks and the big

NGOs. They're far, they're scattered,

they're distributed,

and that threat

that comes from the barbaric hinterlands

just isn't there. So the

left, paradoxically, can only win by losing. That is to say, by winning in places where maintaining power as a left is structurally an impossibility, like york city and that's what i want to get to

i'm not saying this as an ideologue i'm not saying this as a fanatic i'm not saying this as an

embittered sectarian. For structural

reasons, Zoran Mamdani

will be absorbed by the system.

Are you kidding? He's going to be

mayor of New York City.

He will be absorbed by that machine.

You cannot be

a rebel mayor

if you're in

if you're on

the throne. You can't be a rebel

like if you want to, everyone like

Star Wars because they think in terms of

Star Wars. they think in terms of Star Wars

you can't be

you can't conduct

the rebellion

you know in in Darth Vader's bathroom

you're not going to do it like you're bro

you're there like that's where you what do you think Like you're, bro, you're there. Like, that's where you, what do you think?

Like, you're there.

Like, bro, you're like straight up in that bitch.

You know, like, you're not, you're not going to be like a left wing force of resistance is the mayor of New York City.

Don't be crazy. Think about it for a second. You're a mayor of New York City. I mean, you have to interface with the NYPD. You have to put down protests if they're too unruly. You got to interface with the DHS. You got to interface with all these other federal agencies. You got to cooperate when it comes to matters of national security and counterterrorism. And you have to actually like facilitate life to go on as normal. You have to, like, you know, you have to ensure that things are

being managed and run in a way that's compatible with the rest of society. If you're in New York

city, which is America's largest city, of course you're going to sell out you for structural reasons you have to even if zoron in his heart of hearts was a principled you revolutionary, he has to sell out,

and he will sell out.

Because,

and that's a,

that's a structural

determinism,

that is unavoidable.

If you're winning

New York City,

or if you're winning

any other center of the hegemony, you can't conduct the class war from there.

Zohran Mamdani cannot use his seat as mayor to launch a rebellion anywhere.

He's going to have to go with the flow and in case you have doubts about what i'm talking about he already has okay look at his cabinet look at his transition. Look at his transition team.

Look at all the people he's meeting with.

Look at all the concessions he's already making.

So Zohan Mamdani does not have a chance to advance left-wing politics while mayor of New York City.

He had more of a chance to affect politics or the left running for mayor then he will being mayor now you could you know the only way

mom dany can maintain and hold a left-wing position as mayor is if he's in New York City and he blames all of the

problems of New York City on the federal government or the state government and he rallies

the people of

New York City to basically

like

even rhetorically

you know stage an uprising

against the

governor of New York

or the federal government for that matter.

That's kind of like a Paris commune kind of thing.

He would have to turn New York City

into a headquarters

of rebellion

against the rest of the country, effectively, in order to just maintain a left-wing position.

Now, he wouldn't have to literally do it, like, in the Paris Commune, but politically, he would have to position himself in that way.

He would have to constantly rally New York

City to be like

not as like a literal

armed struggle, but he would have to be like

we need to continue fighting.

You need to contact your senators,

your congressmen, you know,

Trump and the Democrats of New York are trying to stop our

movement. They're trying to stop our agenda. We have to defy them. You know, he has to, he has to be

mayor of New York City and the strategic position he has to position himself in, he has to base himself in defiance. He has to be a defiant mayor to be a left-wing mayor. He has to run New York City from the perspective and in a position of defiance against the

democratic party and against the federal government now first of, there's absolutely no sign that he intends on doing that.

But in case you still have hope that maybe he'll change his mind and he will do that,

I want to explain to you why that is also structurally

impossible it's impossible because there's because in cities like new york the people that are that

that voted for mom dani did not vote to go to war against the country

for new yorkers mom donnie wasn't a radical that's why he was elected he wasn't a radical it's

already a solidly blue

city. There's no threat of the

Republican Party that exists there whatsoever.

And he just had

two Democrats, and they chose Momdani.

They didn't choose

a radical antagonism.

If Mamdani was running on radical antagonism you know if the problem is that too much of new york are undocumented they don't want and they won't take risks too much of new

york are immigrants who have aspirations petty bourgeois aspirations for careers some Some come from

anti-communist diaspora.

But they're really not all that radical.

They're just not.

And they don't have

sustained anger at the system.

Most of these immigrants

are just happy to be in america versus the country they came

from they don't have a sustained level of anger or dare i say entitlement toward the system

and meanwhile the young people and the students there's not enough of them

to be a social base for for any kind of defiant strategic position Mike I don't know what the fuck you're talking about, dude.

I'm forgetting struggle.

What the fuck are you talking about?

Like, what the fuck are you talking about?

Struggle of what, by whom, toward what, to do what?

Who's willing to struggle, and what's the likelihood they're going to struggle?

And what's the likelihood they're going to struggle?

You know, just like fucking think.

Like, that's literally what I'm talking about.

The inner city.

They're not going to struggle, dude.

They're not going to take the risk.

People want life to go on as normal

in these kind of places like

New York City. New Yorkers,

you know why they want affordable housing?

You know why they want affordable housing? You know why they want all the things that Mom Donnie is promising?

Because they're not angry enough at the system to just want to go to war against it.

They don't have feelings of revenge against the system. They don't want revenge. They don't have feelings of revenge against the system.

They don't want revenge.

They don't have, they're not motivated by class hatred and revenge.

Many indebted students are, don't be wrong.

Many of the people that were fans of Luigi are.

But the popular base

of New York City that's just not who they are

and you're delusional

if you think otherwise

okay

okay let me continue

after the Okay, let me continue.

After the disappointments, they'll be a lot closer.

I also want you to reflect upon being a retard because

didn't AOC disappoint people?

Didn't Bernie disappoint people?

That doesn't mean anyone's closer to a fucking thing.

Okay?

So just fucking think about it for two seconds.

Anyway, let me talk about

let me finish what I'm trying to say

mom donnie cannot

for structural reasons

reign as mayor

in a position of defiance against the system

he just can't he doesn't have the popular

base of support to do that. The people that elected him actually want what he's promising.

They don't want to go to war, and they're not willing to go to war. And moreover, it is impossible to wage a war from New York City.

It's not possible.

And it's not going to happen.

The problem I have with free shit Obama politics is that I understand

politics as class struggle

and people genuinely do just

want free shit. They're not

necessarily motivated by class

rage and antagonism.

They're mainly motivated by just wanting

free shit.

Okay? They're mainly motivated by just wanting free shit. Okay.

If you don't find this argument, I'm presenting convincing.

I don't know what to tell you.

Zoran Mamdani, for structural reasons, cannot wage a rebellion against the country from New York City. New York City is the

largest city in America. If New York City rebels against America, that's like the equivalent

of America of like the CIA rebelling against itself. It's like, that's like the equivalent of America of like the CIA rebelling against itself.

It's like, that's like not going to happen. You're talking about a nationwide revolution,

only under the circumstances of a national revolution will it be possible

for New York City

to defy the rest of the country

because New York City

is a center of America

it's not going to defy the rest

of the country

you can have as many I love New the rest of the country.

You can have as many I love New York t-shirts as you want,

but at the end of the day,

New York City is very much beholden

and dependent upon

and reliant upon the rest of the country.

And it has,

for as long as the rest of the country or the powers that be, are going as normal,

so will New York City.

So New York City will just go as it is.

Okay, so finally, I want to make a final argument from the perspective of realism.

Let me entertain the fantasy

that New York City

becomes the Paris Commune.

Like, let me entertain that fantasy.

Why not?

Are you guys ready for that fantasy to be entertained that Mamdani is going to govern from a position of defiance against the governor of New York and the federal government.

Okay. Well, what happened to the Paris Commune?

Have you ever read what Mark said about the Paris Commune and what happened to it? Have you ever read Lennon's writings about what Mark said about why the Paris Comme more or less failed?

Because

Mark said the Paris

commune needed to make an alliance

with the provincial

subsistence farmers, the indebted

subsistence farmers of the countryside.

That for as long as it wasn't able to do that,

the central government of France could draw up an army to just crush it

from the provinces, which it did.

You have to win the nation. You can't win a city. You have to win the nation you can't win a city you have to win the nation

if momdani becomes a defiant mayor it's not going to be difficult for both the democratic governor or the federal government

to just do what what have i been talking about this whole time class to utilize and direct the leverage from the hinterlands to crush Mamdani.

Because in the hinterlands, everyone thinks Mamdani is a crazy jihadi communist, and there's not enough time for Mamdani to go and smile and go get you know have a tour and

and convince everyone he's a care bear they're not going to believe anyway by the way because his

politics is this is where I am going to get a little

ideological. Well, it is bourgeois. I mean, from a common sense perspective, Mamdani is just a

bourgeois, sleazy, slimy politician. And most of the working class hates him, actually. This isn't

ideological.

Let's look at the voter data.

The New York City blue-collar working class are not the Mamdani people.

Mamdani won because he had a bunch of demographics lined up, you know, that were receptive to that message,

but translating that at a national scale is a very different thing. He united students and

immigrants, more or less, and upper middle class professionals.

You know, that's the balance of class forces and social forces at play. Now, I'll talk about classes and social forces and

dead ass. You know, the average DSA people will be like, that's divisive. Everyone's the same.

And it's like, no, there is a material difference between blue collar workers, you know.

And, uh, I don't know, like, um, interpretive dance instructors or something.

Like, sorry, there is.

At least tangibly there is.

Well, that's just culture stuff.

Well, culture's a...

I guess, isn't that the thing

that separates us from being animals?

Phenomenally speaking?

Cultures are pretty important indicator of differences at the material level like it is.

It's not just superficial aesthetics. It reflects different ways of life and different attitudes and sensibilities with respect to the world that are in part shaped by experiences, by different experiences.

But I'm not going to even get into the PMC thing because everyone's going to, oh, the PMC myth and the barista thing.

Okay, I didn't even mention that one time and everything I say holds, okay?

Simple realism.

Like, if you believe the Democratic Party is not incentivized to support Mamdani for material

reasons

and if you believe the Republicans

are hostile to Mamdani

which I think most do

the order of things

is that he doesn't have a chance

the left doesn't have a chance. The left doesn't have a chance.

And one of the disheartening and depressing things about the Mamdani hype is that people will not learn this lesson from it.

People are going to go in the opposite direction.

They're going to think that, okay, all I need to do is have a unifying progressive Democrat platform, and that's how we win. And it gives me hope. I have Obama like hope because of Momdani. And there's not an awareness that Mamdani only won in the way he did

because it's New York City where there's no threat of a Republican Party.

And then B even

that he won

for structural reasons

you know

everything that he ran on is going to mean nothing

he's just going to mean nothing.

He's just going to be a run-of-the-mill New York City Democratic mayor.

There's not much he can do about that either, by the way.

His campaign was a lie. Of course it was a lie.

I mean, no, you can't be mayor of New York City and affect all these sweeping changes.

So, like, you can't. You just can't. It's not going to happen.

Okay. So what do I advocate for? What's my strategy? What do I think is the alternative?

You know, as a Maga communist, what's the alternative that I would advocate for as a much more realistic thing for the left wing?

A lot of Americans believe brown people are subhuman

you know Sigma I don't know what's up with you bro

but like you say a lot of stupid ass shit all the time in the chat

and it's like, so what is

this? Is Mondani? You're going to fucking be an Indian

guru with his fucking legs crossed?

He's going to fucking teach Americans how to

not be racist anymore. What are you even saying?

What are you even saying?

What are you even talking about here?

He's been fucking sitting with his legs crossed.

Well, what's going to happen?

Nothing.

Stop mentioning irrelevant-ass shit.

Oh, it's unfair.

That's why I don't like what you're saying.

You're like, it's unfair.

Americans only dislike Mamdani because he's brown. So go spank them Go spank them and punish them you know, I'm gonna sound like, I'm gonna like, I'm gonna like, I'm gonna sound like, I'm gonna sound like a right winger right now, but it's like, your average American

doesn't know

anything about India or where brown

people come from, you know, in

Asia or the Middle East.

They don't fucking know anything about that.

And the only reason they do is because

our country is involved as a global empire

and it got fucking wrapped up in all these different places. But like, why do you have this

expectation that any country is just going to like treat a foreigner the same. That's just not

how any nation on earth is. Every nation on earth is going to be wary and suspicion of people

that they just don't

fucking know.

So it's just kind of useless to talk about

well, Mamdani, they're just hostile

against them because of racism.

Well, what do you fucking expect?

Did you think America was like this inclusive, tolerant land

where there's no racism?

Because that's just not reality.

Anyway.

Um... Anyway Um All right, I'm done with going on that rant

What do I advocate for

And why do I think it's more realistic

Well, what I think it's more realistic well what I think

communists should actually do

or what

the left needs to do

but I think communists

you have to have dialectics to just be able to

do this and have the intelligence to

um just cut out the middleman and just like straight up just go directly to maga and win them

like that solves everything like imagine if you take away the leverage of the Democratic Party

in that way and just just directly Otomaga and win them

people like you don't get how powerful that is like

the Democratic establishment can no longer use the right wing as leverage against the left anymore just focus on directly fighting the right wing over their base and their electorate because if if there's any takeaway you should have from U.S. politics, the kingmakers

are the base of the Republican Party.

The Democratic Party bows to them.

Lenin, what's up?

Just go directly

win Manga

and you have all the cards.

Don't even

vie for control

over the Democratic Party base.

Because the Democratic Party base is a hodge

of different groups that independently have no leverage.

Immigrants are an extremely vulnerable class of citizen or non-citizen, I should rather say.

Don't worry about that you're not going to win the immigrants.

Don't worry that you're not going to win different marginal groups.

Don't worry that you're not going to win students you know, students or something. If you win the MAGA base, you can win those groups much easier, actually. Much easier. Are you kidding? It's a million times easier to win immigrants if you're neutralizing the threat directly that they're going to be deported. Think about that for one second. Like if you can win the MAGA base and if you have the source of the fear of these immigrants is that the Republican Party is going to deport them or crack down on them.

That's the source.

By winning the MAGA base, you hold all the cards.

You open up the opportunity to steal all of the fundamental

let's say coalitions that underpin the democratic party and you don't have to worry about them

the only thing the left has to worry about is MAGA. The only

threat to the left wing.

Just be direct about the threat.

The only threat to left wing

politics is coming

from the Republican Party. It's coming

from MAGA.

In the sense that like, that's the only leverage the Democratic Party

establishment can use to defeat the left is just by, well, there's this threat of MAGA.

There's this threat of the Republican Party.

Okay, so what the left should do is just go down

to the countryside and win MAGA,

like to their side,

and cut across

the established Democrat and Republican

voting blocks and build a new one

that's based on left-wing

politics.

Now, why I think that's

just much more realistic is, like,

if you win mayor,

or city council or any other position of power,

in a really

shitty, poor small town in Appalachia or somewhere out west

or somewhere in the boonies where everybody is really angry and wants revenge against washington dc and everybody has a lot of rage

and everybody is like ready to go you can actually sustain a position of defiance.

You can be a defiant mayor in a small shitty town in bum fuck nowhere.

You can.

You can be a defiant mayor if you're in a tiny small town. Why? If you're a if you are a defiant mayor in New York City, that's a crisis of national security. The system will not allow it to happen. But if you're a defiant mayor in a town of,

you know, 2,000 people or something, that will be considered an oddity. It'll be overlooked. No one's

going to care. And plus, you will have a base of people who do want to go to war with the system, who do hate the federal government, who are against Washington, D.C. And they would gladly, gladly rally behind a candidate

or a figure to prop

them up whose like sole

agenda is to say, fuck you to

Washington, D.C.

And this is the game that Republicans

already play. The reason

Republicans get elected, a lot of the time is because they're pretending to be populous,

giving their middle finger to Washington, D.C. and to like the system.

A lot of times rural people will vote for these like insane Republicans just as a form of protest. And the reason there's a lot of anger in rural America and in the small towns is because the number one thing, and I'll always say this, the number one thing is the neglected and abandoned state of rural infrastructure. Because that accounts for everything. You could say, no, no, it's because of racism. Well, even if you were to say that's a factor, rural infrastructure doesn't have

educational infrastructure. So of course, people are going to have all sorts of backwards

views about a whole lot of shit. And that inequality between rural infrastructure and the urban infrastructure

you know it's it's a marker of class rage and class warfare rule people hate the

elitism of

you know the coastal elites

they do they do resent it they genuinely

do resent it

so

the left wing if it

just just go down to the countryside and start from scratch forget about working in the democratic party start from scratch and start stirring and causing trouble in the small towns.

And if you win small towns, little by little,

it doesn't have to be won, you know,

this is how you build what they call dual power.

Let me explain what that means.

You win mayor here, you win city council here, you can build a guerrilla base in the small town.

I'm not talking about armed, illegal, anything.

I'm talking about politics.

You can build an opposition, a force of pure opposition in the small towns, and you can sustain it because it's asymmetrical. The small towns in

America don't have

the responsibility put on them, like

New York City, to be centers of hegemony.

So the system can actually

tolerate them to be in a

position of defiance.

You can

be a genuine people's opposition party that is based in this geography. You can. You can sustain it, too. You can be like in a position of protest indefinitely there. Because the onus of being the center is not on you the onus of representing the country is not on you the onus of being the most largest and most powerful city it's not on you the only onus upon you is to represent your local constituents who are angry and pissed off at the system.

So you can maintain and sustain a position of opposition and dual power.

What do you mean dual power if you're mayor?

Well, if a party does this, okay, let's say the American Communist Party, if we were able to do this, then we are incorporating those positions of local, official, you know, conventional power into a system of dual power that's based on a strategy.

So that would facilitate the construction of dual power with respect to Washington, D.C., and with respect to the hegemony. Remember, there's two types of power that we're building dual power against.

There's Washington, D.C., okay, so the federal power, and let's say the state governor, even, whatever.

And then there's also the hegemony,

which is unenumerated within the Constitution.

Okay?

So,

that's why I think, just from a realistic

perspective, it's much more intelligent

for the left wing to win

small. Small much more intelligent for the left wing to win small small parts of rural america don't go for the center

you know aiming for the center is trotskyism 101.

The idea that you first win the center and then from the center, you subordinate the periphery, is a Trotskyist strategy.

But what I'm advocating for is Leninism, okay?

And people say it's Maoism.

That's true, but that comes from Lenin.

Mao's impetus to base himself in the Chinese peasants came from Lenin. Lenin is the one who opened that horizon up within Marxism. So this is Leninism, this is Stalinism, and this is Maoism. You know, the Stalin's ability to rein in that treacherous forces within his party was because of the leverage he was able to employ by having a basis and foundation in the Russian national subject, the peasants, who were the biggest proponents of his cult of personality,

right, for that reason.

So, um,

the task is that the left

has to win the small towns

and it has to win Maga more or less.

And I mean, guys, that's what Manga communism always was.

Sometimes people try to say,

Oh, Haas, your prediction didn't pan out.

I never predicted anything.

I proposed a strategy.

A strategy, by the

way, which hasn't

seen, you know, incredible

successes, probably

because it was shit-coded

and like, just

so much volume

it was just misrepresented

like so many YouTube videos were made about it

and like if you look at like all these

people just totally

twisted what it was supposed to be

it's it's a different strategy for left-wing

politics

but if you ask people what it be. It's a different strategy for left-wing politics.

But if you ask people what it is, they'll just be like, oh, you're just

communists that support Trump.

And it's like,

but

doesn't it, when I explain to you in realistic terms, doesn't it make...

Doesn't it make... Doesn't Maga Communism just fucking make sense?

Because it's just about cutting out the middleman.

Why...

Play these games with the Democratic establishment

who are always going to use the Republicans as leverage

when you can just go and win

the boogeyman

go and win the boogeyman

like if somebody is constantly threatening

you with the boogeyman

just make that boogeyman your own.

Just don't, or directly confront the boogeyman yourself.

Directly, you know?

So that's my very realistic explanation whitelisted for why zoron cannot win or why this is not a strategy this is not a way forward for the left wing it's not all right before i transition into the next topic does anyone

else have any questions about

that? Why do

I think that this is not a strategy

for the left to go...

I didn't use any ideology.

I never said, oh, you know, you're not pure

enough. I'm thinking of this in terms

of realism and materialism, okay? Yeah, we're telling Maga, like, fuck the Republicans

join the communists.

That's the whole point.

Do you think leftists would become dis-okay, you're getting ahead of yourself?

I want you, I want you guys to tell me if there's anything you feel like I left out or you're missing

or you don't agree with even like this this is not a way forward for left wing politics

this strategy can't work mom donnie can't be replicated.

You're wrong. You're making it seem as though left-wing politics had never been attempted in the South.

You're overlooking the race factor. Rural whites will always side with whoever plays into white supremacy.

Okay, Crunchy, I love that you say that, because you're basically a representative of what I will call the swollen intelligentsia.

The swollen and arrogant intelligentsia.

Yeah, it has been tried before by the petty bourgeois intelligentsia

who spit out their own bourgeois prejudices

to rural people,

get a response that they don't like,

and then write the book settlers saying that the rural people are materially predisposed to being averse to class politics. But the essence of rule rage is class politics. That's the tragedy.

So, maybe there is something I left out here, Crunchy. For this to work, there needs to be a cultural revolution within the left wing. The left wing has to humble itself and has to detoxify itself from its bourgeois tendencies remember where the

the word bourgeois comes from is the burghers or the town the town whatever, whatever, the town's folk, right?

There's a prejudice that comes from that.

The left wing has to Bolshevize, has to undergo a cultural revolution,

and has to change its own attitudes and its own sentiments and has to learn how to distinguish the

appearance from the essence of things the left wing has to lose its ideological insecurity

and adopt confidence don't bring your fucking baggage

and try to sell that to rule people.

Genuinely make an earnest effort

to embed yourself in the masses,

level with them, and speak to them plainly in plain spoken meat and potatoes English,

and if you can hold your own, that's the whole Maga communism dialogue, which ACP has proven

as possible, by the way.

We may have not, you know, affected a revolution in America.

We may have not taken the reins of power.

But if there's one thing ACP has proven crunchy, is that actually you can fucking win rule people

to communism. It's actually not

that hard.

You know, our, the reason this hasn't

panned out in some grand thing for us

is because, like, well, we don't have millions

and millions of dollars. We don't have

tens and 20,000

members or whatever.

We do, you know, we're up against tremendous

odds, but we do know

how to have a conversation with rural

people. We actually do, we have that nailed

down. So, you know,

when you're saying that, like, oh, you're making it seem like

the left has never tried this before, it's like, well, you haven't ever tried it before, you know?

What leftists have done is that they've taken baggage from New York City or L.A. or something. They've tried to impose that upon people

with materially very different way of life in a very different culture. It didn't work out how

they wanted it to, so they wrote them off entirely. Not self-criticizing enough about how, well, maybe you have an elitist baggage.

Maybe you come off as you're talking down to people.

Maybe you're insufficiently aware of how, you know, you are actually perpetuating class distinctions in the very way that you're talking to these people.

So, like, you know, for you to say, like, oh, you're making it seem like this has never been tried.

It's like, it honestly hasn't.

Now, if what you mean by try is that you want to go down and win small towns by convincing rural people

to engage in sexual experimentation

and get offended when they're not using pronouns

and you get offended by them

and you write them off because they are

because they may use racist rhetoric

when you talk to them

hey you're right you're never going to win them over.

Because you live in a fucking bubble.

And you think that you're some morally superior person

because you use the right language and the right words.

But you're actually not.

I don't deny the essence

of class politics, but these are the same people

that burned down black towns

and lynched people when confronted with a choice

to make. At times, they were extremely

revolutionary, like when they went to war with the

Pinkertons, but there was a cultural rot that can only be broken by extreme material conditions.

That, you know, no, the problem is that the left or communists were outmaneuvered sometimes by the bourgeoisie in the south, okay, or by the local landowners or something, where they used racial politics. Yes, they did. And then communists found themselves in a position

where it was difficult to um it was difficult to compete with the people that were already powerful and then no it's still a thing and rule that's not even just the race issue though there's a lot of other things you know that that would be relevant in but you know that's why that's actually like the bloodiest struggle

of all not literally but like that's the real struggle man but that's the struggle you know

the struggle is not winning over um nancy pelosi the struggle is actually fighting against the racist ideologists that

or even even if they are spontaneous you know know, uh, racist.

The,

the,

the struggle is fighting over leadership of the masses,

man.

I don't know what to tell you.

Like,

that's the whole struggle.

That is what the struggle is.

Like,

that is the content of class war in a lot of ways.

You know?

And by the way, I'm not just talking about the South.

I'm talking about rural America.

You know, the thing about getting people to rally them to burn down black towns, well, who's their, what's their leadership?

Class rage can be directed into racial cannibalism. Everyone knows that.

But that speaks to the insufficiency and incompetence of Marxist leadership or class conscious leadership. That's not because the masses are inherently disposed to be bad.

And plus, nobody said it's not going to be a fight. Of course it's a fight.

But you don't give up just because you're not winning.

You give up.

Never.

You adapt.

You understand the root causes and the essence of things.

You know, and you know, I will go out on a limb and saying this.

And I don't like to gibber, and I'm not somebody who likes to over exaggerate theory but awareness and and having in a die i should rather say possessing a dialectical outlook is life and death here.

Because it's all about contradictions.

It's all about the correct appraisal and understanding of contradictions.

Because there's usually about 30 or 40 at play in a given moment

like usually historically

there were spontaneous

movements of black and white

farmers who actually spontaneously

they weren't stupid like they figured it out

they were able to unite

and fight against the powers but

there were other sources of leverage that were at play that were coming from the city or that

they were coming from somewhere else and people the spontaneous leaders of these movements found themselves stumped

because they got outplayed and and only by having an awareness or a dialectical outlook can you actually

have a strategic outlook to be

aware of the contradictions at play?

I think rural

America will be communists only after the American

Civil War.

Look, I don't think you can change everything

I don't think you can win all of rural America

I just think you can start

building a foundation

you can start

you can start there

look what you're talking about is crazy

okay i'm saying the left wing

to start its struggle needs to start

there

i'm not saying it's you can win all of rule

america and then simply mount a rebellion against Washington, D.C. from there.

What I am saying is that the left, don't waste your time with New York City. Don't waste your time trying to be mayor. Don't waste your time trying to be president just base yourself there

to build up left-wing politics to become a tribune of the people to become an effective

opposition and through the course of the intensification

of contradictions the things that you're talking about will inevitably what even without a left

wing it'll happen but do you want let's say civil war two happens tomorrow do you want to be a left wing

that has a firm basis and foundation in some rural armed communities or do you want to have a foundation

in university book clubs

and radical

transgender spaces

of about

12 people

and you're just going to get shot and slaughtered on day two.

What's a smarter strategic position that you have a solid popular base and maybe it's going to take the civil war

for the left wing to finally go down to the people like Mao did with the PLA and like yeah

build that foundation and build that base. I'm just saying, why should we wait for that?

Why don't we just start doing that now, which we are?

Why doesn't the left wing just start doing that now?

If it wants to be relevant in America again, you know?

So, like, that's my two cents.

Don't waste your time with New York City in these big cities.

Just start building dual power.

That's all I'm saying.

Like, build dual power.

You know, I can't believe some idiots would be like,

Oh, you,

uh,

a small town is better than New York City?

Um,

if we're talking about building dual power,

you can't hold New York City,

you fucking idiot.

You can't hold New York City as a revolutionary

if shit popped off or something.

You can hold

small towns.

You can't fucking hold New York City.

You can get someone to mayor in New York City.

That doesn't mean they're going to be subjected to the discipline of a radical

Leninist organization.

That's literally going to be a belligerent in a fucking war.

Who the fuck do you think Zoron is?

You think that if a civil war happens in America tomorrow?

That Zoran fucking Mom Dani is going to be accountable to some, like, radical paramilitary

Bolshevik party?

And he's going to, like, lock New York City down and fucking mobilize and like go to war and shit.

You can in a small, if a, if a radical organization had a foothold in a small town and shit popped off.

Yeah, that's possible.

But a radical organization didn't win New York City.

An independent left-wing organization didn't win New York City.

The DSA wasn't even put in the cabinet or the transition team. So, Mamdani, as a politician, as a Democrat career politician, won New York City.

That doesn't mean the PSL can win New York City.

That doesn't even mean the DSA can win New York City.

They can't.

Imagine if Mom Dani's campaign was a DSA campaign openly.

Like, this is, if he was like, this is the DSA's campaign, I represent this organization, which has, like, it wouldn't have, he's a Democrat. He ran as a Democrat. By the way, I saw some really AstroTurf boddageage shit speaking of this. Remember the

CPUSA that defunct

non-existent entity? Well,

on X, it got 2 million impressions

that the

CPUSA won four city

councils

positions. Oh my God, the CPUSA won Four city councils.

Positions.

Oh, my God.

The CPUSA won positions and elections?

Why, the Communist Party.

They said the Communist Party.

Okay, more about this is going to be revealed but um there's not a single one of those c p u s a members

who even listed the c p u s a on their campaign websites or in any other capacity.

One of them listed the DSA, but in addition to running as Democrats, they didn't even, at least Zon Madani was like, I'm a Democratic Socialist.

But not one of the four

CPUSA candidates

during their campaign

made it part of their campaign that they were

communists.

They didn't include the CPUSA in their campaign website.

They included a ton of different organizations, working Families Party, DSA, some other NGOs.

CPSA wasn't there.

So how did four CPSA members win?

I'll tell you how they won.

The only people that joined the CPSA,

they're what you call

promiscuous politicians or promiscuous activists.

I would call them organizationally promiscuous advocates, activists.

What they do is that they'll go and they'll collect,

they'll sign up for dozens and dozens of different organizations.

So they'll sign up for DSA, they'll sign up for CPUSA, they'll sign up for Working Families Party, they'll

sign up for the Green Party, they'll sign up for the Purple Party, they'll sign up, of course

they're already Democrats, they'll sign up for the Young Democrats, they'll sign up for the

transgender awareness group, they'll sign up for the Queer Club, they'll sign up for the transgender awareness group. They'll

sign up for the queer club. They'll

sign up for the

black disabled folks

unity. They'll sign up for Black Lives

Matt. You look at these people's cards

that they have. They have about 36

different cards.

Avant-Garde, you said entryism.

Hey, you know what? I'm giving you an award and it's a big fucking retard award.

Take this award, a big fucking retard award to yet another chatter.

Entryism.

Are you fucking stupid?

What the fuck do you mean entryism?

If there's literally a fucking guy who networks with everyone

and just joins every fucking organization

that they can fucking come across,

what's the entry here?

Who's entering what?

I mean, there's no entry.

Entryism is when there's a clearly defined organization that is infiltrating another organization.

That's not what I'm fucking talking about.

I'm talking about stupid careerists, career activists that join billions of different fucking activist organizations just because they're trying to network with as many people as they fucking can.

It doesn't mean they're loyal to any one of those organizations in particular.

What they are loyal to is their dream of being career Democrats.

So a whole lot of people in the CPUSA fit that bill.

They are career Democrats who are networking and rubbing shoulders with everyone they possibly can.

And they're members of DSA, CPSA, Poop PSA, shit essay, fart USA, Democrat Party Party working families

this that Starbucks

Union everything they can get their hands on

just because it's like a way for them to network

just that one person that just wants to be part of everything

and they're part of everything.

And they're part of the poop club and the animal club and the environmental club.

And they're the... You know in high school, that one fucking teacher's pet, that striver that would just join every fucking club in college or something?

Or in college, I should rather say.

I'm part of the rowing club.

I'm part of a fucking knitting club.

I'm part of a fucking this club.

I'm part of that club.

That's the CPUSA

membership.

I would say very few members of the CP USA are like,

yo, I'm a communist.

I'm part of the CPUS.

Yo, we rep in CPUSA.

I'm here for C.

I ride. I catch bullets for Joe Sims.

No.

They're not like,

they're not like cadre.

The CBOSA doesn't have cadre.

They don't. They have a few

full-time staffers that get paid by people's world.

But other than that,

they don't have cadre.

They're not cadre.

They don't have cadre.

Okay.

Let me repeat that. CPUSA doesn't fucking have cadre okay let me repeat that

CPUSA doesn't fucking have

cadre okay

like I need to

you need to scream that to the mountain tops

to whoever needs to fucking hear that

they don't have cadre

they have promiscuous activists

promiscuous in the sense that they're not they just like they're in every organization

they can get it their their hands in And what that effectively means that their

newspaper...

I'm going to ignore that. I'm going to pretend I didn't see that.

What part of this is missing to you guys?

Some dumb fat guy will just go and sign up to be in CPUSA

and just do it and then forget about it the day after like Patrick Starr.

That's what I'm talking about.

I'm not fucking talking.

It's literally just people that will sign up to be part of some shit and then

forget about it the morning after like Patrick Starr.

That's what I'm talking about.

Like somewhere along their life, they sign their name somewhere and they're part of this organization

and that's how that worked.

So there's, so when you hear that cposa won four spots in the city council a no they didn't

they ran as democrats but b cp usa had nothing to do with those campaigns.

Other organizations did.

They just happened to be members of CPSA because they signed up 20 years ago or something.

All right.

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Like, I want compensation for seeing

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tartarian what's up all right anyway look i'll get to the second thing now, okay?

I'll get to the second thing.

Restitution.

It's really what it is is restitution for all the stupid comments I had to read tonight from the stupid people in chat.

All right, guys, the second thing I want to talk about, which is arguably more important in a lot of ways.

Comrade Kid, what's up, bro? That's 45 remaining.

Okay?

45 remain.

So,

anyway,

the second part

is arguably more

important for you,

so listen carefully.

And I'm going to

try to wrap this up quickly.

So it doesn't take too long, but it's very important.

So, like I said, originally, let's say in 2024, I was convinced that DSA AOC style politics was dead, and it was just dead in the water, and that we're never going to see any of it again, and we can just move forward with a new political realignment,

which is happening, but in strange ways.

Political realignment.

And I have to say, like, yeah, that I didn't...

I never factored or

took into account the possibility that

the avatar of left-wing politics

would once again be a DSA

shitlib

Democrat,

which is what subjectively

happened with Zoran.

And, you know, the first thing I want to say, you know, with respect to that, I guess, is that, um, Amila with the 10, what's up? Appreciate you. That's 35 left.

What's up, Amila? Appreciate you.

Fuck, I don't know why I'm so hungry.

So, um, my eyes are a little tired.

So basically, uh, So like I said on RBN, you know, I was pretty stumped.

And it's like, I got to do some thinking about how did this happen again?

It's the same thing.

Our messaging on this hasn't been strong.

And I want to point to some dangers that the Zoron phenomena do put us in, okay?

By no longer being the freshest, most talked about left-wing phenomena in the country,

we run the risk of just becoming like a sect.

Because you know what, guys, you may say that we'll be vindicated on Zoron, which we will, of course, which maybe might take a year.

But consider this.

You know how many sectarian,

Marxist organizations have existed for 30 years

and have constantly railed against bourgeois politicians

and have not grown one member in 30 years.

Do you want to know how comfortable and safe and feel good you could just be in?

Feeling like you can just like, oh, I'm the true Marxist, I'm the true radical. Everyone's deceived by the illusions,

but only we see the truth. It's not a strong position to be in. It's where a lot of losers are.

It's a sectarian position, objectively speaking, and that's how we lose

all our emotion, our momentum, and we just

become an irrelevant fucking sect

and a cult.

And as much as I love the cult thing, you know,

we don't actually want to become a

fucking cult, you know? We don't like actually

want to be this niche, eccentric, wacky thing that's just like

crossing our arms all the time and talking about how we're so smart and everyone else

is so stupid.

So the first thing we have to do is acknowledge and in some kind of way recognize you know that

zohran momdani has become the signifier for left-wing politics in America.

Whether we like it or not, he just has.

As a signifier, again, concretely it doesn't mean we have to like him.

Concretely, it doesn't mean we have to shill for him.

It does mean we have to recognize what he means.

And what he means is that up until this point, we've had Kamala Harris, we've had, we have had AOC, we've had Trump, and we've had, we have had AOC.

We've had Trump, and we've had a lot of people disappointed by Trump.

And Zoran is this new boogeyman in U.S. politics who is like a Muslim.

People are calling him a communist,

and he represents right now the left wing.

He represents the alternative, you know?

He has objectively succeeded

because he took the national

center stage

he does represent that

in America right now

and I'll be up front with you

I resent that fact I wanted

ACP to represent that but

that's just not what reality is right now.

For the masses, I mean, you know.

And everyone sees Zoran as representing this new future of politics

because there's this new

dialectic that's been created

by the things

that he advocates for which are on

their own not impressive

but the reaction to Zohran is, remember when I said politics is all about contradictions and stuff?

Well, this is the contradictions part. It's the contradictions around Zoron's, you know's persona that have shaped

the shifts in U.S. politics.

Like,

the fact that the conversation is being framed as,

or do we really want this Muslim communist

in New York City? He's a Muslim communist.

And, you know, there is this pretty objectively, like, yeah, it's a left-wing position this has opened up in a way, you know, because it's like, you know, the only reason people are calling Zoran a Muslim communist is because they're disguising they're a bunch of Zionist Israel shills.

And you know what?

That is a very real proxy for, materially speaking, for the status quo.

So it's like the Zoron hype is, it's this like edgy defa...

You know, you know what it is guys?

And you know, maybe this is like a good thing to compare it to.

Think about Trump in 2015 or 2016.

Now Trump won the presidency, okay?

But if we can concede that Trump represented something new for politics,

if we could concede that Trump polarized discourse and culture in pretty interesting ways, we should also concede that Zoron is doing the same thing.

Zoran is polarizing U.S. politics along the lines of crazy Zionist Israel Shills who are fearmongering about Sharia law and communism, you know, versus edgy young people that are much like the alt-right in 2015, 2016, around Trump.

I'm not saying this is a one-for-one comparison, but they're like doubling down on the Sharia law.

They're doubling down on the commun communist as an edgy meme thing.

And I've even noticing overlap infusion.

You know, I'm seeing the, they're making that Sunnand-Rand sickle meme, the Nazi Sunn-Rand, and they're using it with a hammer

and sickle they're making their own

agartha memes I'm seeing a lot

of like dark woke memes with

Zoran where they're like

just as like a way just like the all right was

in 2015

2016

and you know a lot of that plays the alt-right was in 2015, 2016.

And, you know, a lot of that plays into what me and logo predicted and what I predicted a year ago, which is that, like, yeah, the DSA types will merge with the alt-right and become the new american nazi party for sure yeah that's true like a lot of that is happening i to be clear like that is happening with with the zonron thing. But it's a double-edged sword,

just like Trump in 2015, 2016.

Because the only reason fascism is able to win is because communists are not intervening

and correctly clarifying the contradictions

and taking leadership

and while we can be sanctimonious

and fully and outright denounce

the entire Zohron craze

and all the edgy memes and all the hype that's around it

I think we should exercise you know

not to sound fucking cringe but it's like

we should exercise leadership

we should exercise leadership.

We should kind of like... I mean, we should be at the vanguard

in a lot of ways of the hype.

I mean, I am a fucking, like, crazy Muslim communist, you know?

Like, that is actually me.

The ACP... I mean, talking of jihadi communism and and the polarization

of politics along the side of like israel shill versus like based resistance supporter it's like

well you know the acp is thought of as an organization that meets with the Houthis and with Hamas, which Jackson and Chris met with, I attended the funeral of Sayyed Nasrallah. I'm the chairman of the party.

There's no reason why we should not capitalize off of the hype for ourselves, because that is what we have been.

And, you know, and so there's like this interesting play of contradictions here, which we have to be aware of.

And I'm speaking strictly of pipelines of radicalization of the youth.

I'm not talking about...

Can I say something like, you know, this is going to sound crazy, but the biggest potential that the Zoron thing opens up are the new terminally online memes.

That's where I'm seeing like the interesting motion.

You know, regarding like, oh, should I

should we stop working with DSA and joining me, Zach?

No, I'm not talking about that at all.

I'm not talking about that at all.

I'm not saying this is like, oh, we can keep pushing left.

We can keep, this is only the first step.

Like, you see, no, I don't care about that. That's all, like, irrelevant. That's like meaningless.

Totally meaningless. I care about how it's affecting consciousness. That's what I care about. I care about how this is shaping and affecting consciousness. I care about the signifiers that are being unleashed by Zohran. And we need to have a more intelligent response, just like we did with Trump. We need to have a more intelligent response to it. Because you know it was a stupid, ineffective response to Trump in, you know,

2022 or when Biden was in power?

You know, this stupid response would have been like, oh, well, Trump is a capitalist politician

and MAGA

should therefore follow me instead.

Whereas it's better to harness the meme

energy that Trump is

putting out there and

capitalize off of it yourself.

That's what Maga Communism was doing.

We all know that Trump is a

fucking bourgeois or

capitalist beholden politician

and a sellout. It's like

we do know that.

And it's the same with Mom Dani.

You know, the reason our messaging is so stale

on Mom Dani is because

everyone already fucking knows that, just like

they knew it with Trump.

But why are they still falling

for it?

Well, because

there are more interesting things

happening unconsciously

and at the level of like

the meme warfare and at the level

of consciousness. And I think part of the reason our

messaging is stale and weak on Zoran to be self-critical you know and it's that that applies for our

entire movement is that what I think...

I don't like the sickle son and ran memes either,

but we don't have any...

We didn't create those, dude.

We don't have any, like, responsibility over that.

All we can do is try to understand what's going on.

Anyway,

um,

and we're,

but we're definitely not going to fucking win

by reacting to all the edgy shit,

by regressing into wholesome

respectability politics, dude.

Like, we have to

be a young movement

of young people.

We're not going to be

a fucking movement

of wholesome,

you know,

family values people.

It's just not possible.

Anyway,

um,

so I don't like those memes either, and I wouldn't... We should not use them at all, but we also can't, like, be, like, offended by them and shit.

Same... It's the same attitude we have to like the all right, you know.

We have to like, be better.

Anyway, um,

so let me continue.

You saw that crazy edit they made for ACP?

Yeah, I don't, I don't care, dude.

Sometimes, guys, you got to let the meme warfare play out,

and you got to let these people, articulate shit on their own terms and you can't control it and that's the thing you just can't control it all you can do is be

more effective and and be more effective rather than politically correct.

We don't want the Sun and Rand meme, sure.

But what's, you know, you know what disappoints me about this community, guys?

I'm just going to be honest.

Like, I did propose guidelines for how

we could make effective memes.

And the only person

who understood it was Jesus

motorcycle. I was like, instead of the

fucking little dark age

retro bullshit and Agartha posting let's be more 3d and metal gear

solid let's be more like that like let's be more like you know like the american um like the mojave desert and shit the can't the grand canyon

like that like solid rock dynamic let's like be like hyper 3d like super real it's realistic

unreal engine five graphics memes 3D, like super realistic Unreal Engine 5

graphics memes

where like we have some like

hype shit and like our music should be different

we should like have some hard style type

of shit. Like I did

like float some shit and like nobody took

it up right? Anyway, although, nobody took it up, right?

Anyway, although I feel

it would be effective, you know, like the thermal

special, lot. Some of you did, but, like,

not a lot.

I know what he's fucking talking about, dude.

I know he's talking about that Agartha ACP edit.

I know he's talking about that.

We didn't make that shit, and it's like, it's not our style.

I'm saying if you don't like that style,

we have to make a better one.

Not simply sanitize it with political correctness, but like make a better one. Not simply sanitize it

with political correctness, but like make a

totally different style.

We should use

just use whatever

fucking works. All right, a lot of you guys don't have a fucking

vision. That's just the truth.

And y'all are in debt

to me by 35 subs. That's just how I see

it. With all stupid ass shit, you guys say.

I'm not going to lie.

Because, like, a lot of y'all just don't

fucking get it. A lot of y'all just don't fucking get it.

A lot of y'all just don't fucking get it.

Like, you just don't fucking get it.

A lot of y'all just like on some stupid as shit.

Anyway,

I'm not drawing a fucking picture, bro.

I'm not drawing a fucking...

You know what?

I will fucking show you some shit

from the fucking earliest days

of infrared.

Show you some shit.

Stupid ass motherfuggers. show you some shit stupid ass

motherfuggers

no I live forever

I don't know

let me find this shit.

Remember the old-ass infrared streams from like 2021 on YouTube?

We had those like thumbnails that were like on some crazy ass shit.

It was like sick as fuck

I used to like get

images from Art Station

and put those in the thumbnails

like shit was

pretty crazy

I'm gonna like shit was pretty crazy and it would be like images of like futuristic tanks

and fucking vehicles and shit

it was like so cool

I'm trying to find it.

I can't find it.

Fuck.

You guys don't really...

You have not really

cultivated our unique aesthetics

and style and shit.

It's like I'm trying to say because a lot of you guys just

don't have the vision you know unfortunately you got some dumb ass shit

we try to find this You got some dumb ass shit.

Let me try to find this.

Can't find it. Can't blame me. I can't find it.

Can't blame me. I can't find it.

I can't find it.

Because this shit is old, you know?

Like this is like, I don't even know if I still have this.

Like this shit is old.

Straight up. These are like some of the earliest thumbnails I would use.

Maybe they're gone. What the fuck happened to those? You know, Yeah, I don't know what happened, but that shit is just gone.

Yo, you know what?

Strah Strad standing with the five.

What's up, bro?

We got 30 subs left for you guys to pay off your debt.

You know, I had a dedicated thing.

I just don't know where it is. Oh, I't know where it is.

Oh, I do know where it is.

Oh, I do know where it is.

Oh, it's not here.

It's okay.

It's not here. Okay, I don't know.

I can't show you.

Anyway,

why not use a similar style

instead of inventing a completely new one.

If it works, why I create something new? Why do y'all punish me with stupid ass than you.

Why do y'all punish me with stupid-ass confidence?

Comments.

Why not use a similar

one? Because we're

fucking original.

We're our own movement.

We're some new ass shit.

We're trying to distinguish ourselves, you fucking moron.

Like what?

We're about fucking tail behind Some stupid ass shit that already exists

We're just by whoa

We're fucking

Copycatting some shit

Aren't we cutting edge

Aren't we a new thing

Don't we have a new Aren't we a new thing?

Don't we have a new like, we're not can I be fucking clear about some

shit? Like, we're not just here because

we're like, oh, we have some ideas.

I'm a policy walk.

We're not just here

because we have a new theory. We're not just here because we have a new theory

we're not just here because we have a new

we have a new fucking articulation

of the fundamental contradictions

propelling the movement of history

we have our own vibe

it's fucking real

it's comprehensive.

Why is there going to be a civil war now? Why was there none when JFK got assassinated?

Yo, you know what I need to do? I need to like get super chats because like I'm literally not

even getting paid to read

stupid ass comments like genuinely

why the fuck would JFK's assassination cause a civil war

like based on what

everyone like JFK.

He wasn't like a divisive politician.

Why would that have divided the country into two?

I'm pretty sure everybody was upset about JFK dying.

I'm not, I'm done being nice, by the way. I'm not going to be nice anymore ever on stream.

All right, anyway.

Like I was saying, yeah, we need to never let ourselves get outflanked. Because when you whine and bitch and whine and bitch, you know what that signifies.

It signifies that you've been outmaneuvered, okay?

And that's the thing Zoron in a lot of ways did out maneuver us

meme wise, like it did.

Let's just be like real about that.

Like it did.

Like we straight up did not.

Although like it's possible, although it doesn't like shake up our theory

it doesn't like change our view of reality

on a rational level

it was surprising that people

are still falling for this same as shit again.

You know, so, like, we need to actually...

You know what the problem with 99% of your guys and my responses are?

We're too rationalistic.

Like, yes, we are correct rationally.

Of course we are.

But there's shit that's going on that's like unconscious that is not necessarily accountable to the use of reason.

And we should be aware and tapped into that.

Anonymous with the 10.

What's up, bro?

Thank you.

Look at Anonymous.

Anonymous is like paying off the debt.

You guys only have 20 subs left to pay off.

Everyone thank Anonymous for paying y'all dead off

okay although i can see who the anonymous is not your real name i mean maybe it's your real name

i'm not going to read you because your your username might be your real name. Maybe it's your real name. I'm not going to read you because your username might be your real name, so I'm not going to read it.

But I'll just say William Foster.

Thank you for the 10.

Appreciate you.

Come on, bro. You got to be nice. You're like my Zizekind,

dougand. imagine if Dugan called you a dumbass bitch

I would want him to you know

if I respected him enough

I would want him to just be real if I'm being fucking retarded and explain why.

So, you all got, you all, you got a debt, 20 subs.

15 subs, because Bolshevik 7 just dropped a 5 what's up bolshevik appreciate you bro

you guys are in debt by 15 subs you know don't shoot the messenger anyway guys uh what am i

trying to say um continue to continue what I'm saying

uh

it's a debt jubilee

uh yeah guys um

we can't be too rationalistic, you know, we can't be too superficial.

I think that we need to shape and define how this moves forward.

And we have the ability to, to be at the avant-garde and the vanguard of that.

Nobody should be praising Zoran.

Nobody should be defending Zoran because we don't have to, but there is a reinvigorated morale that is not so much left wing, or it's not so much communist as it is a newfound more can I you know the way that I think is like so schizophrenic that like I don't even know if you guys are going to understand this.

There's a new type of morale that is against the right.

Corvid with the five.

What's up, man?

Appreciate you.

You guys got 10 left.

All right.

Your debt is almost paid off.

Um... got 10 left. All right. Your debt is almost paid off. There's a new morale

against the right, which I do

kind of fuck with. Because let's be honest

about something. You have a retarded Trump administration

ran by retarded

cringe boomers like Benny Johnson

and it's super

and like it's super

cringe and it sucks

and it's cringe it's super cringe and it sucks and it's cringe.

It's like unforgivably cringe.

Um,

and then you have a resurgent right wing

which is like Nick Fuentes and these neo-fascist, whatever,

and they've been like dominating meme-wise.

And like, Zoron's victory, although rationally, if we're being rational, it's meaningless materially.

It is materially meaningless, at least in the conventional sense of the word material.

Politically, it's pretty meaningless.

But you know where it does have meaning in that meme war like there is a vibe shift

that I that we can all detect

where it's like there is this new like left wing

morale that is out it is like more edgy than the right

and it feels more powerful than the right wing which is very, very interesting.

Like,

it feels more subversive and

it feels more like

just

potent and

like revolutionary

than the right wing, which is so

fucking rare

and unheard of

and unprisoned of. This is the

thing that's new about Zoron. The thing that's new

about Zoron. The thing that's new about Zoron

is that like...

The alt-right was at the cutting edge of the memes

for 10 years.

But yes, Volk actually got it. Like, Volk... but yes

Volk actually got it

like Volk you get it

you had Luigi

you had these insane fucking people

with Charlie Kirk

who were like praising it

and now you have Zoron

and that is like a continuity

that is like a thing you need to observe

and it's like people are

articulating that in the light of the Palestinian thing,

not thing,

the Palestinian movement,

and anti-Zionism

is like primarily,

yeah,

the Kirkified memes,

that's like primarily where it is.

Amila, you're right,

you're definitely right

that that's a factor.

But it's,

I wouldn't say it's the only thing, you know?

The left is countercultural again.

Yeah.

Can I just say, like, there is a pulse on, like, what's considered cool and funny, and what's considered, like, cringe and nerdy within culture?

And the right wing has always been, like, the cool and funny since Trump.

And the leftists were, like, you know, the leftist meme were, like, they're talking too much, the leftists were like, you know,

the leftist meme were like they're talking too much

and they're like cringe and shit.

But like that is kind of starting

to change

and shift.

But

simultaneously, let's also remember this, me and logo talked about this also represents a merger between the DSA and the Groypers and there are material reasons for that.

And it comes from the fact that these are downwardly mobile, professional managerials,

or people who aspired in professional careers,

who failed and are now in debt and, you know, they blame Jewish gatekeepers. I'm not saying, oh, anti-Semitism. Like, Jewish gatekeepers are real.

Harvard and Yale and whatever, like, yeah, there is a strong, you know, let's at least say Zionist presence.

And that's the reason what is materially incentivizing

leftists against

Zionism is that

it's the same thing that is materially

incentivizing groepers against the Jews

it's the same class D class is materially incentivizing groipers against the Jews.

It's the same class declassing process,

and it's a lumpinization that they're both experiencing.

They're both becoming lumpinized.

Can I ask about non-MLs in the party?

Can you... No, you can't, because it's just, why the fuck would you be in a Marxist-Leninist party

if you're not a Marxist Leninist? so like we need to be mindful of that

we need to have the best memes

we need to have the cutting edge

I'm not saying we don't need to emulate

anybody. We don't need to follow any trend.

We just need to be aware of the trends

that are dominating and that are winning.

And we need to have

our own response to that.

And that's what we're lacking in right now.

And that's the, that's the, and nobody should right now and that's the that's the and nobody should be

content with that you don't be content with just like saying the rational truth about zoron

because it's not enough we need to have our own response to zoron and i can talk about that more on the next stream.

You know, but for now,

um,

for now what I'll say is that y'all are in debt by 10 subs. Which is a fact. Here we go. Midwest Sing.

Midwest Sing, what's up, bro?

Yo, what the fuck? Abe with the 10.

What a scam.

They doubled, it's doubled, they doubled debt, they doubled for it.

Phil, what's up, bro?

So Midwest and Abe

both cleared the debt.

I can't believe this.

Wait, it wasn't Midwest.

No, that was an error.

It was just Abe.

Okay, good.

You guys weren't scammed.

It was Abe. It was just Abe. Okay, good. You guys weren't scammed. It was Abe.

Abe did it.

Nice. The scan didn't work.

All right, guys.

Yo!

Anonymous with the 10.

That, oh, okay, I see how it's going on.

Anyway, guys, I got to end it.

I got it ended before it's too late, you know,

and I got to say that, uh,

what I got to say is uh no I am another baby an animal I am not a citizen as before i see it in the mirror in my road and i get a feeling stronger in my soul but i'm not sure i'm ready for this word now as he thinks I didn't

see before

I need an explanation

tell me more

why I'm in alone

now

I don't know

how can I need for

I don't know Where How can I need for a woman? I don't know.

Where can I find a half?

I don't know.

What is I going to happen?

I don't know why I'm in love now.

I don't know.

I don't know. I'm in love long No, no

I'm in a lot

No I'm going to be able to be able to mind.

I'm going to mind.