DEBATE: Is Infrared Right-Wing?

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let's get right into this let's get

right into this

and uh basically come to the conclusion

that you guys are just pandering to the

right you guys uh seem to live the right

you seem to love you know figures like

Alex Jones you know those type of uh

people which I'm not going to deny they

have a material basis and some of their

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so

um

well I came on to talk about was uh how

infrared from the community what I've

seen just seems stupendous to the right

wing that's all you guys seem to do

well in it mate you got an argument or

something or what

what got my argument

is that as communist you guys should not

be aiming to uh Pander to the right and

Panda to conspiracy theorists and

quote-unquote mega communism you guys

should be looking to build an actual

movement uh among the working class

so aside from all the jibber jabber your

act your basic accusation is that we're

either pandering to the right or we are

right wing right

um

I'd say you are pandering to the right

yeah look at oh we want to get rid of

your taxes and blah blah blah blah blah

all this shit you're just lying to their

faces pretty much what is the right

the right yeah well the American right I

would consider

um

Maga

uh people of conservative values okay uh

why is that

why is that

yeah why

but the the image that's been portrayed

right

um well why is that right wing

what you mean what why is that problem

they want to they want to preserve they

want to preserve well if anything it's

more reactionated I want to go back to

like an older style of uh social

politics and social policy

what is the oldest style you're

referring to

like you know hating gays and you know

uh hating commies and you know you guys

want this back you know the it's

glorious so let's start with the um

are you saying that the Maga movement

uh expresses hatred for people who are

gay

let's say they do yeah

based on what

well I've talked to a lot of people uh

that have been to like these Mega

rallies and they don't feel comfortable

around uh a lot of the people facts

don't care about feelings can you give

me examples of how Margaret people are

hostile to gay people

well for an example the capital riots

right

um a lot of that had wig Nets Nazis okay

no proud boys so you're saying January

6th you're saying that you're saying

January 6 was about gay people

well I'm not saying it's about gay

people I'm talking about that's kind of

people that manga attract in the right

attracts

don't you think that any uh don't you

think that the BLM riots in 2020 also

attracted political extremists from both

sides of the uh aisle

far right extremists and far left ones

what they're trying to respect no the

2020 BLM rides

um

so is is it because Maga is

intrinsically attractive to uh

neo-nazis or do these political Fringe

extremists want to latch on any movement

that they consider to be promoting the

most amount of disorder and chaos

well obviously any on T for the capital

riots so you didn't see what

I didn't see anything

well Communists or any of these people

right but antifa antifa are not actual

like they're not actual uh political

accelerationists who want to collapse

the system antifa wants to defend the

system at all costs

uh

I've never seen antifa actually

demonstrably challenge the system in any

kind of way you show me your average

antifa position and aside from openly

wanting to do crimes their value systems

and their ideology does not actually

differ

from

the mainstream and from what

corporations are openly advocating and

supporting

but there's a lot of um

there's a lot of Communists among NT for

a lot of anarchists among antifa I don't

think can you qualify what

meaningfulness

those phrases have in this context who

cares what does that mean that their

Communists or anarchists well

ideologically speak and that's what they

believe in so

okay uh

what what is what's the Practical

significance because I don't actually

ever see antifa doing anything for quote

unquote communism I often see them show

up at drag queen Story Hour

um to defend the the drag shows against

protesters I've never actually seen them

do anything for these

political ideas

that's what we were talking about

sorry

you were talking about what idea like

ideologies these attract so

so yeah the only difference between the

so-called far left and the far right is

that the far right is Wilder

that's the only difference the far left

is Extreme in defense of the status quo

the far right seems to be extreme uh in

an anarchistic way in the opposite I

think the real anarchists are the far

right actually

you think that the real right there so

you think the real Anarchist is the far

Road yeah I would call them Anarchist

yeah

but in the way they function yeah

what's the what you containers doctor

analysis to be exact sorry

well I know what an artist are you

comparing them to

the historical ones when people used to

say anarchists 100 or 200 years ago they

weren't referring to some special

ideology they were referring to people

who position themselves in a specific

way with regard to the status quo

okay

so so overall then you would argue that

the the far right okay and what what do

you classify as like far right now

um these extreme you know neo-nazis and

all these kinds of people the Ukrainian

as of these are pretty much anarchists

more or less

so would you consider like uh a wig nap

far right okay yeah I would yes I would

and that's not to say that they actually

do oppose the status quo it's just they

position they appear to position

themselves in that way but oftentimes

they are used to defend the status quo

that's why the best friends of the FBI

and the government at something like a

Maga rally whatever one you want to

refer to is going to be these extreme

uh quote unquote wig Nats and the same

is true for you know anarchists

historically they've always been used by

the authorities to do the Dirty Work

that the status will cannot

yeah so the like uh in the infrared then

from what I've I've been able to see I

met a lot of people on your telegram on

uh other like like there's a nice bowl a

telegram where there's like 200 people

in their mainly uh from infrared uh

there's a lot of people that seem to be

on the like

like encroaching like wild classified as

the far right within infrared and I

think that's a problem so what can you

defend the meaningless the

meaningfulness of

that qualification of the far right

because I used to be a Bernie guy back

in 2015 2016.

and to me it seemed very clear that

there was a political spectrum because

Bernie represented something different

from Trump

and to me there was a meaningful leftist

politics or left-wing politics in

America because Bernie was also outside

of the center

but after after the complete

capitulation of Bernie Sanders to the

DNC

how can you qualify the meaningfulness

of any real left-wing politics in

America or even right-wing politics for

that matter I mean where how do you

define that

why attach yourself to maggot like this

is where the confusion comes from

because my argument has consistently

been that Maga is the only partisan and

counter hegemonic movement in this

country when I say partisan

all I'm referring to is that they are

outside of the political consensus

they're outside of the uh Center the

ruling center that is so Maga is just

the only real political opposition I

don't I can you point to me any real

political opposition outside of Maga

no

there is none

okay and so what your goal is to attach

yourself to manga which is like

um but you I mean I'm you're not going

to deny this right that uh our white

nationalists among my girl and you know

people that are reactionaries among

Market you think we're gonna just

magically change these people into being

somehow left that's not the ranking that

has nothing to do with the rank and file

there's a lot of people who've tried we

are among them by the way who've tried

to attach themselves to the Maga

movement and gain some kind of

ideological leadership over it

and you can say there's wig knots there

well there's also Communists look at us

so there's all sorts of people but you

know here's the thing you said we're

pandering to the right and that's what

I'm kind of confused about

because yeah right but I'm confused

about that because historically speaking

the right wing was associated with the

people who wanted to preserve the status

quo or the ancient regime where the left

just it was the party of movement the

left is the party of political change in

the party of movement so if you ask me

Maga is actually what's on the left in

this country

I don't see a left I don't see a party

of movement

politically speaking

that exists outside of Maga so if you

ask me what my political spectrum is I

would actually say Maga is on the left

not the right okay okay yeah but dude

when people normally talk about right

wing and left wing look look values or

are people considered like a right-wing

value to be like pretty much like uh

anti-lgbtq uh anti-feminism all these

songs

but why

the wisex the remaining the people that

supported but what do what is the elves

what is what are those movements because

I can't get into detail about them on

YouTube but what do those movements have

to do with a revolutionary movement when

has there ever been a revolutionary

movement in history that has been

similar to those con that has

incorporated elements that you find in

those kinds of movements I've never seen

one in history

um

I've never heard of a revolution that

took on the same

structure as the so-called Progressive

left in America

and if you actually look at this

distinction between the left and right

the conventional distinction

in America it's pretty much from the

Obama era before Obama there wasn't

really much of a left to speak of you

can talk about the anti-war movement

wasn't really political

the American left coalesced around Obama

after Obama they went to Bernie Sanders

Bernie Sanders capitulated to the DNC

and now we're here so where what is the

left where's the left what what does it

mean to have a left the left is dead in

America and the left won't return from I

agree I agree it's dead now I think I

think you guys should just wait until

the rise of China happens and uh sorry

yeah wait till what you should just wait

for China that's it

so anything you guys can do like let's

be honest so like uh saying that we

should wait for China is no different

from these stages historical position

within the Russian Social Democratic

labor party that we should just wait for

capitalism or we should wait for the

revolution in Europe to happen first

and as leninus because we're Marxist

leninus we refuse to wait for anything

we don't believe that's dialectical

so what you guys think you're gonna have

what like uh you think we're gonna take

over the cpsa you're gonna

um do all these things like do you not

think this is like cpusa is not

literally filled to the brim with FEDS

like

yeah it is it's probably the most uh

federally controlled uh

minor political party in the country

okay

the whole infrared right thing so

within within your community then

everywhere you go on your telegram on

your uh even Twitter or Discord you know

there's just people pushing these

continuous right-wing reviews uh well

obviously you wouldn't call them right

but um these these right-wing views that

uh you know Communists really shouldn't

be advocating Forum pushing like uh

if anything we shouldn't be debating of

social policy even though the coach war

is real and it is a real thing taking

sides on it is not really the answer

well I think you can

you're right I don't consider them right

wing but I think you can forgive my

community for focusing so heavily on

these issues

considering that they have consistently

popped up as early as the Bernie Sanders

Movement by the way as the number one

obstacle to being able to form a workers

movement what I mean by that is that you

had these so-called left-wing populace

coalescing around Bernie everyone was so

excited we can have a left-wing populism

we can reach the working masses with a

positive message of Love instead of hate

and yada yada

based on uplifting people economically

right and really concrete terms

challenging the ruling class and the

elites Trump on the other hand was a

billionaire and he he was associated

with you know the elites he didn't seem

like a real populist at the time

everything's great but then comes this

uh culture Warriors

who shit everything up

and they gate kept left-wing populism

and destroyed the populism aspect and

turned it into leftism what we call the

ideology of leftism they gate kept the

whole thing the whole thing was

extremely unappealing to the

sensibilities of working people

extremely right so much so

that exclusively as a result of this

artificial attempt by leftists

right

entire new right-wing movements quote

unquote right-wing movements I wouldn't

refer them to that but

Jordan Peterson Ben Shapiro all of these

people got their name to fame reacting

to the same people who shit up

the Bernie Sanders movement back in 2015

and now we're here and every time you

try to join a Communist party or get

involved in any kind of communist

organization you're faced with the same

exact problem of having to deal with

these Gatekeepers

for whom there is a special attachment

to the Rockefeller Progressive agenda

in in a way that comes at the expense of

actually being able to form a workers

movement

so that that's your like uh attempt at

Defending Your Community is that's it

yeah I I do I do think so yeah I think

um

it's very clear also you don't even have

to be a disgruntled

uh left-wing populist to understand this

you could just focus on the fact that

there is very clearly in terms of

mainstream media and what's the ruling

hegemony of our current Society an

attempt to shove things down our throats

that are in commensurate with our own

sensibilities so people being able to

make fun of that and mock that and laugh

at that

is not an indictment on their attention

not being placed enough on building a

worker's movement if anything it's

something that the working class can

relate to

very clearly can relate to because the

sentiment the backlash against wokism is

mainly coming from the working class

I don't I don't uh grief you there but

that doesn't like excuse your community

as a whole to go around just like

fucking Champ garbage and it's putting

garbage everywhere online and uh paying

into this culture War doesn't really

excuse that kind of behavior

I I don't need to excuse any Behavior

because people are free to do whatever

they want on the internet but the fact

of the matter is that we've been placed

in a defensive position leftists

have

any everything short of direct physical

violence against us every kind of

slander every kind of abuse

so in their eyes it's fair game

I mean what we if you if you uh want to

know the origins of infrared we did not

start out particularly

quote-unquote

um you call it right wing I don't think

it's right wing but we used to have

feminist mods

it's almost exclusively

we used to be we used to have no quips

with any of the Rockefeller Progressive

agenda movements none of them right I

was always someone who um

would mock soy males and low

testosterone males we weren't

anti-feminists we didn't critique any

other kinds of movements

and

leftists

decided they were going to bury us

and they resorted to the most slanderous

dishonest

and scummy means to do that not not in

not uh

not only de-platforming which is the

worst thing of all

but character assassination and trying

to destroy our reputation so we decided

we weren't going to be bound by the

leftists anymore

and we weren't going to really care

about them in terms of trying to be

within that Echo chamber which by the

way what does it have to show for

there's a really big leftism in America

phenomena pretty big right

what where's the politics what's what

politically what are they is there any

political power to back that up do they

is there anything within American

politics

I mean how can there be a political

Spectrum

if there's no left I don't think the

political spectrum is viable anymore as

it used to be

if there's gonna be a future of the left

it's not going to come from leftist

self-proclaimed leftists who I can't

help but pin down their concrete

politics in just defending the

Democratic party now they can be the

most revolutionary Anarchist whatever

they want but they all implicitly

understand that there is a political

spectrum and the Democrats are on the

left side of that political spectrum and

that that is the bulwark of their

political existence which they're just a

subjective and ideological articulation

of that's very clear to me it's very

clear to me that leftists are just

Democrats they may be opposed to the

Democrats

they may not want to work with Democrats

but they all have this implicit and

unconscious understanding that this is

the left and this is the right

Republicans are on the right the

Democrats are more the left and that

assumption which I agree I used to have

as well that everyone used to have in

the Obama era when Obama was Center left

quote unquote in most of our minds

is something they still hold but my

problem is that that's a baseless

presumption after the capitu after the

capitulation of Bernie Sanders after

what the DNC did to him how can one say

that there is a DNC left or there's a

Democrat left there's what do the

Democrats have to do with any left the

Democrats are the status quo period

there's nothing about the Democrats that

represents political movement in any

kind of way they are the epitome of the

in the entrenched interests of the

ruling class in this country

so

so like this is like where

um the car I am just wondering what what

is the problem though we've taken the

center why why is it why you guys are

looking to appeal to like the red pill

community and all these like uh strange

and where the online phenomenas of like

we're not appealing to the red pill

Community we are appealing to

we're not appealing to anything actually

we're trying to make sense of sentiments

which the new generation in particular

is Awakening to

and that's called The Red Pill Community

quote unquote the red pill Community is

something that existed in the 2010s

pretty much was just a bunch of angry in

cells and that's what I think they're

trying to attract at the moment that's

such a goal I refuse to believe that I

know Andrew Tate fans in real life I

know the kind of people who are his fans

anyone who says that these people who

watch Andrew Tate and snico and whatever

are angry in cells is just very out of

touch

on the ground your average no no listen

I'm at plenty but the problem is is that

you want to attract these kind of like

just weird online they're not weird

they're not that's the opposite the

people who are who like Andrew Tate are

not overly online people they're just

normal

young Jim Bros you know maybe they're

into crypto they're trying to get away

oh out of the nine to five job grind

they're really just normal people

they're not in cells they're not crazy

online people that's masses and masses

that's like millions and millions of

people

uh in cells yeah in in cells

I don't even know what insults have to

do with that actually installs are

people who are upset they can't get laid

and they form a community around being

involuntarily celibate what does that

have to do with

uh well and do you think that doesn't

attractive no no because the kind of

message Andrew Tate gives people is

motivation it's pretty much like if you

can't get laid it's your fault so in

place you support a sex trafficker is

that what you support man

where are you getting that

well Andrew Tate being a sex trafficker

okay

so you saw it so you'll basically openly

support and knock a man that's a literal

sex trafficker which is how

do you mean how you're you're basically

saying oh he gives people motivation all

this yeah he does

am I wrong

okay so can um

well you'd be fine with people saying oh

yeah Jeffrey Epstein gives people

motivation yeah we're just gonna start

saying shit like that like come on man

you can't can't be pushing these views

I don't think it's I don't think it's

really comparable

so so you're gonna defend Tate

argue he's uh why do I need to defend

Andrew tank can't I give just an

accurate description of uh what the

phenomena is first of all

well you can type in your defending a

man that's you know a sex trafficking

man and the Undertake phenomena it's

um

it's odd argue the only benefit that

Andrew Taylor gave to the communist

movement was breaking people out of the

political Spectrum that's about it but

what what am I defending

you're defending the fact that you

motivates young man you're motivates

young men to do this no I'm just I'm

giving you a description of fact it's

actually true

that is really the function he serves

it's a mainly a motivation function

I've never

I mean what else would you think it is

why do you think people watch Andrew

Tate or like Andrew Tate

because he says the shit that

um

you say some stuff that people want to

say

that's it

yeah he says things that make sense to

people and which motivate people

okay

what by by saying that the West is a

bunch of the generates and then claiming

that he's fucked 500 women like so I

want to give you some perspective right

now

uh in America at least we're witnessing

a skyrocketing level of deaths of

despair

people are just

having no sense of hope they have no

motivation and

people look around them and they see

only fans and they see

a complete confusion as far as the

relations of the Sexes is concerned and

genders

who have their own fans webcam business

uh business let me finish

okay

come on man because the detail you just

gave was irrelevant because we're not

talking about Andrew Tate's personal

character we're talking about why it is

people are attracted to his message

um I've never met an incel in my life

anyway anyway let me continue

let me continue

all right go on Andrew Tate is saying

that the West is degenerate makes people

feel like this isn't just me it's not

just I'm experiencing it's not like I've

just given a bad hand and like

only I I'm the only one who just

I guess is sick with this world and with

this country that I live in he's saying

it's a bigger problem and that makes

sense for people

instead of someone going and deciding to

become addicted to drugs or lose and

give give up on life Andrew Tate is

saying

this is a problem with the West it's not

just you you're not the only one who

feels like this is all wrong it's a

problem bigger than that

every time people used to try and make

sense of that you know they would be

called an in cell they would oh it's

just you you're just everyone else is so

happy and everyone else is so able to

conform to this

so-called civilization and it's just you

who's wrong right

and then well it's just not true right

so Andrew Tay was the first person I

guess to break into the mainstream now

you can express

uh you can say that you

don't like that it was Andrew Tate who

did it because of some indictment on his

personal character but that has nothing

to do with the phenomena

in other words Andrew Tate did not go

viral he didn't go viral for sex

trafficking or for his cam girl business

that plenty of people do that by the way

and they're praised by leftists as

empowering sex workers

that's not new Andrew Tay went viral

because of his message

uh wait can we can I guess we'll send

that because I don't think I've seen

anywhere around me the air or by any

leftists of uh

praising people for quote empowering sex

workers well I I remember actually it's

quite it's quite fucking medium stuff no

you can I recommend you can do research

on this because

for a long time

let's say in the 2010s and in the

mid-2010s it was almost a unanimous

consensus among the radical left

to support sex work and that that's why

we call it sex work by the way we used

to call it prostitution now we call it

sex work many of these come many of

these women on Tumblr and this is the

sad truth

Grew Older

as of recent in the past few years

and as a result of Aging

among other factors

now there are more critiques of

so-called sex work that are coming from

the left

but it is 100 percent

a result of the personal

narcissism of the leftists themselves

those same people who critique sex work

were praising it

five or six years ago eight years ago

yeah can I get a sauce on that

uh no you can research and invest yeah

so you're trying not your ass look I

told you

so the year is 2015 would you deny that

for example on Twitter there's more or

less

mainstream consensus that

sex work is work

no okay well I used to be a little bit

tangentially involved with the DSA

before it went mainstream actually

and

sex workers work was basically codified

within that organization as a Dogma

and that DSA was supposed to be the

political form of the Bernie Sanders

phenomena that was like the Bernie

Sanders let's codify it into a political

movement that was the DSA wait so you're

saying Sanders support sex work is that

no I'm saying

the the legitimate the normalization the

normal let me let me finish the Lord the

normalization

they would have sex Works actually yes

the momentum

movement which was the youth wing of

this of the Corbin movement was trying

to push for the normalization of sex

work I witnessed it I was there okay I

witnessed it dude about providing the

source because I don't remember any of

this and I lived during that so as well

okay well I I would like to ask you how

you think we started calling it sex work

instead of prostitution

because I remember how that happened

no I don't remember tell me so we've

always called it sex work it was never

we never used to call it prostitution

well

Charming bed well I'd argue that people

call it prosecution sex work cool to

anything God I don't know I don't know

where the exact time for sex work came

from have you ever heard of the slogan

sex work is work

yeah I've heard that slogan and you

think that was just a fringe thing that

wasn't like a mainstream consensus

and if you could find like a like a

mainstream like article it's called a

network and then uh you know take one

Google search uh I you're asking me to

find you a mainstream article talk

saying sex work is work

yeah look mainstream look from a

mainstream news source or when the big

means you're right that's apparently

you're controlling everything right so

if I if I provide you this Source what

do I get

um you've been on this point

all right

and you don't provide me some Fufu

website enormous fucking heard of right

don't provide you what some fucking

bullshit website and no one's heard of a

beautiful mainstream all right so this

one side of it so this was all right

wait wait wait wait now we've I've

already found it this is the first

result on Google okay

okay who's it from the ACLU

American civil liberties Union is that

mainstream or no

never fucking out of them

AC but this was the this was just the

first result on Google

and that's the ACLU

I'm looking at oh because my Discord

doesn't work

what's up on stream

yeah I don't watch your stream

um

the American civil liberties

Union

these things these guys seem to be like

the only guys really talking about

okay well no you you uh so well you can

see it on this point or do you need

another one

um so I'm looking don't there's only two

things I'm seeing and it's from nswp

teen vote yeah there's the Teen Vogue

one this is the first page

proletarian feminists.medium dot UK

element.com and it's the problem with

the phrase yeah so it's a it's a Marxist

feminist okay what about the open

Society foundations

Oh Come

so

transaction

is is the open Society Foundation is not

enough for what

I'm the bad of them and have you heard

of them

before yeah they happen to be the

largest philanthropic uh Foundation

funding left-wing causes around the

world and this is George soros's

Foundation

that's the first page of Google dude

okay so the point was uh

do you remember the backlash against

Foster and sesta

so your point was that the mainstream

was supporting this

not only the mainstream but almost the

entirety of the hegemonic left yes it

was a very small Fringe of the left that

was opposing it now the opposition to

prostitution has grown recently

and it's become more fashionable to

critique

uh prostitution now but these same

people were defending it

years ago

so that's uh

2019

so open Society

okay so we're clear that

you were wrong on this point

sex work I don't know what what you

could be looking up or trying to find

out megacopium

um I've never heard of it

Foundation seems to be still fine with

sex work so these same people are

continuing to support sex work right

well I'm I'm referring to the left in

particular the radical left

radical left yeah because they're the

ones who kind of pioneered this and made

it go mainstream

let's just say the Democratic socialists

because something to the quote-unquote

left of the Democrat mainstream in the

year 2015-2016 is how I would qualify it

okay

so you're talking about yeah good

morning Revolution

talking about what I want to even call

Bernie a Democratic Socialist but yeah

Bernie's movement was totally hijacked

by people who yes were pushing the sex

work thing I was there

I was there in the

um youth wing of the DSA where yes they

were pioneering it already there

in 2015

2016 it was extremely common extremely

like very very trendy and popular

but to be

far to be to be Pro sex work and

legitimize prostitution as just another

form of work yes

I mean we can

look this up us Pro sex work if you're

in the UK you should be familiar with it

already in the momentum movement

foreign

so

um

so yeah the the original thing we were

talking about was um

when you get back to that I'll agree

with you that the Democratic socialists

of uh

of 2015 2016 were supporting sex well I

guess I mean I'd have to look up further

the groups and by the way almost all of

the

more radical leftists from Anarchist to

ml today and maoist

came from the DSA

the ones that are popular now they were

they were in the DSA

I mean I don't think there's any popular

Marxism in this in America well if not

other one well at least discoursively

anyway there's a reason Andrew Tate got

popular

and we are also cognizant of the same

reason we notice

the Rockefeller and Soros cultural

agenda just as much as Andrew Tate does

I don't see what that has to do with any

anything about Andrew Tate's character

well so talking about something for

mayor publicity

um I mean no no not from your publicity

but to try and make sense of the

complete breakdown of any kind of human

ity in this sphere of gender and sexual

relations

people are extremely alienated

um especially young men most of all

probably

women have women's voice is already

clear when it comes to their alienation

they

destroyed Bernie's movement

uh

and a DSA by the way and they destroy

everything pretty much the feminists I

mean

because not even just the feminists but

the prioritization of the so-called

grievances of women

meanwhile Andrew Tates quote unquote

phenomena or movement is not even about

complaining it's just about trying to

make sense of reality

so it makes sense so everything's clear

and then it's the end of the world well

it's clear to me that uh

women do not exclusively have a voice

the so-called authentic representatives

of women's Grievances and their voice

clearly will never succeed in satisfying

women's alienation so now it's time to

talk about men's alienation

with Positive Solutions

in what regards that they can't find a

why no no not not in regard to that in

regards to the complete loss of

willpower and the ability to wake up

every day to have something to live for

how do you do that in this wacky twisted

confusing clown world

yeah I mean that's that's just the

nature of capitalism right I mean no

it's it's not just it's not just the

nature of capitalism it's specifically

how the nature of capitalism has

affected the relations between the

genders and the sexes

yeah

so so it's an effect of capitalism you

agree with that again

I just think it's Superfluous who cares

if it's an effective capitalism

just advocating for a change in

uh

who runs a factory is not going to

change this underlying problem

um

you know what is capitalism how do you

effectively critique capitalism what's

the core of capitalism itself

the court of capitalism itself

yeah what is that

now with that well you'd argue in the

past profit

um okay

oh so you eliminate profit then what

yeah but but okay under socialism

workers would have their own vote on

social policy like we have no vote on

social policy today that's a managerial

distinction it has nothing to do with

the motor production

yeah so

so your argument is uh well again say it

what

argument

my argument is that talking about

capitalism is usually a waste of time

because leftists do nothing but critique

the so-called capitalism and it'll it's

always just an excuse for their

inadequacy to concretely address real

problems

yeah I mean there are real problems

within Society not grieve that but to to

just like kind of move your whole

thing away from

not end in the destruction of what

capitalism is

um

what do you mean Envy what it is what

does that mean ending what

wait say again ending what what do you

mean ending what capitalism is what do

you mean by that

well no I he was gonna so you want me to

tell young men for example you want me

to look myself in the mirror better yet

yep and just say I'm here to end

capitalism does that give me anything

concretely is that is that is that is

that a tangible position to hold or to

make sense of the world with I mean I

think if every young man woke up in the

morning and thought thought that I think

it would be in a completely different

situation no I don't I think we would be

in the exact same situation yeah no we

wouldn't because where is the capitalism

what is the capitalism

at this at this point it's uh smooth to

do with um everyone critiques capitalism

even mainstream media does it all of art

does it everyone does it it's you go to

a if you think you go to a cocktail

party in Manhattan you don't think

they're critiquing capitalism there they

are even a CEO of a hedge fund company

is critiquing capitalism but critiquing

capitalism is an existential

quandary it doesn't actually denote any

kind of positive or concrete political

position

it's just an existential question of

this problem of capitalism which almost

everyone exclusively recognizes as some

kind of problem similar to how yeah and

so the point is you're going to build

you're going to build a move and that's

the point so you're gonna

take control of the part you'll build a

party and okay that that should be your

goal right so you have a party based on

what by the way what are you what are

you selling people to motivate them to

join your party

for for like what you get for America

any any any context you you want let's

UK or America

well my my argument would be

um

for me personally uh it would be like

people can buy a house

you know uh what

for like people can buy home like here

in the UK people can't afford homes you

know like so you want to keep your homes

wait what tell me what

What what is the

what what is the party based on

based on what like uh

you've told me you want to end

capitalism and form a party for that

Express purpose well what does that look

like what is that

I think it should be a united front

but kind of similar to what George

Galloway's got going on with the work

spot you burn

okay

do you know that George Galloway's

Workers Party of Britain by the way

not to detract from this point but

you're aware that the Workers Party of

Britain has taken a

uh very clear anti-woke stance right

but they don't pan this to the right

what does that mean because when it

comes to the controversies of which

we're probably not allowed to delve into

on YouTube

they do side with the so-called right

uh on what like um

let's just call it the bathroom issue

they do side with the right

yeah not in terms of like uh no white

nationalist sentiments and they don't

they're not cultivating sentiment of

ethnic or racial hatred we're not doing

that either but when it comes to social

issues they are not taking the side of

the British left on any in any way

laughing I think there's actually been a

big change in the British I think if you

had any understanding of the I'd say

Brenton is a hole in its politics I'd

say a party like George Galloway's is

gonna is gonna thrive in these elections

and there has been a once like a

conservative

uh Socialist Party right so the

sentiments that you find in the in

George Galloway's Workers Party of

Britain are sentiments that can only be

hosted within the Maga movement in

America

it's a clear line you're either with

Maga or the blue pill America there is

no way you so what you're gonna go up to

people and say to them oh yeah we want

to get rid of your taxes and uh you know

we're gonna stop making the frogs gay so

is that what your strategy is here like

something you're gonna say to people

um opposing excessive taxes

was a mainstream communist position

for a long time

in many different countries

yeah but the problem is is that okay if

you're going into people and saying oh

yeah we're just gonna

um okay why is that a form of pandering

though because

last time I checked these are all right

wing talking points right well you can

you can you can baselessly call them

right wing but opposites opposition to

the imperialist states bureaucracy is a

standard position even since Marx's time

I think I think what you need to accept

is it uh would seem hard I think you

need to accept the fact that in the left

well in America they left won the

culture War they won you guys I don't

think so I don't think so yeah you're

100 lost

sorry

I mean the people are unlocked more the

right of the culture well they lost

um that's evident today

um I don't think so because

for in institutions yes not on not on

the ground within institutions

absolutely but we are witnessing a

revolution against the institutions

across the board in this country

economically and politically

well A revolution is in what like Trump

got kicked out like DeSantis is going to

take over Trump

um it doesn't matter Trump has done

something irreversible to American

politics

and meanwhile Economic Institutions

which

have planted their feet in the soil

their claws and the soil of the people

in the form of the dreaded nine to five

service job well the entire movement of

the people now is geared toward among

the youth

subverting and avoiding this dreaded

nine to five this new form of

serfdom

which people reject

which is a huge factor in Andrew Tate's

success I mean people bought nine to

five

forever dude like what

yeah

they worked in uh

normal jobs not these grotesque service

service shops I mean you can still go

into normal jobs like you can't there's

really not enough you really you really

can't well I don't know us but not in

the US we don't even have as much of a

powerful manufacturing industry as

America does so well if everyone did it

in the UK you couldn't there would be a

huge competition so would you would you

call like a firefighter or policeman

like a grotesque service dog

would you call like a fireman or a

police officer like a grotesque like a

service shop that no one wants to do

when it's not those are not Mass jobs

those are not jobs for the masses those

are jobs for uh

a small percentage of people not for the

majority it's not a standard job the

majority could relate to as a general

job

again but here's your problem that

you're going to run into is that

um

you're you're gonna have to work with

people in the server dog in

within like your Baristas your no we're

gonna work with the workers

no you're gonna have to bug these people

yes we're gonna work with the people

because the people hate their jobs we

are not going to work with unions and

organizations that have been established

for the explicit purpose of preserving

these jobs

and uh and what what's what's the

problem with taking power within the

union is that is that a problem do you

need to speak up I can't I can't hear

you every other sentence I have to tell

you to speak say it again because you

are not intelligible so just speak more

clearly and speak louder so okay right

what is the problem with you guys taking

positions apart within the union what's

the problem with that

because establishment unions are

politically polarized

they're not polarized as in divided they

serve the Democrat polarity

they have a definite polar orientation

that's you can't break out of

so you don't want to like try and take

part of look supporting infrared member

to try to take part or become like um a

shop steward or like a union organizer

but then you did it it is definitely

it's possible within certain strategic

sectors of the economy not for service

jobs

within those sectors of the economy of

real jobs yes

within service jobs no there's no point

in doing that

but there's no point none at all

and what do you think people I mean

people are going to get annoyed if they

don't get that fucking Big Mac dude you

don't know what your Americans like and

too bad too bad

wait so so you believe that you you

shouldn't bother organizing service

workers no you shouldn't they not at all

you shouldn't not at all

even though even if they could like

provide value

service workers are not attached to

their jobs the ones that are attached to

their jobs

are managerial elements the ones that

the majority of service workers

don't have any attachment to what

they're doing at all then they don't

have any long-term aspirations to

continue doing the job they're doing for

a particularly long time they're waiting

for their next big break to get the fuck

out of those jobs and we want to assist

them in doing that

so what you want to overall just abolish

the service industry

yes that's one of the things we offer to

people as far as you say I want to end

capitalism you don't have anything you

someone asked what do you mean by that

we say one of the things we say is uh

let's get rid of the service sector in

the nine to five let's have a reduction

in the Working Day

and an increase in proliferation of

heavy industry Blue Collar jobs which

because of the abundance of people will

have to do less of per day and have more

time for free time so that's something

that is part of our thing

that we're telling people

yeah I I agree with the abolishment the

service industry I think it's very

possible something in fact automation

but the problem is is that to completely

give up on these workers when

um they could provide value to you we're

not giving up to them we're not giving

up to them we want to form a political

movement

that will enact policies

that will make people less committed

less tied down to them I mean already by

the way it's the service industry that's

experiencing some of the worst shortages

already there's the great resignation of

Labor yeah there's a reason McDonald's

is

18 an hour a lot of places because

nobody wants to do these jobs and people

the ones that are there

and they they uh don't even care if they

get fired anymore they literally do

whatever they want and good for them by

the way I'm not knocking on them I'm

saying

the these are outdated kinds of jobs

right now even already in reality most

people are shifting toward the gig

economy

as an alternative most people would

rather do

you know these gig economy jobs

uh then have to work for an institution

hello

okay I can't see if you're talking I

can't hear anything and I haven't been

able to hear anything

sure he's just restarting

his thing

they'll be back

hello

okay

hello hello yeah

hold on

there we go uh hello can you hear me

yeah

okay yeah so

um we'll talk much absentry correct

okay

there we go

um So within the um

so the so if this is what you've got to

offer so what what what's your plan then

like this is my

question so you're gonna offer this to

people and then you're just gonna say

we're against the gym receiver against

this or against that

and call yourself conservative

Communists that's going to be got the

whole thing

okay

well and that's your movement

now

that's well that's like the impression

that your movement gives off right

um

you guys are like a conservative

Communists like that's just your whole

thing I mean you've literally said it

right I think we are we are conservative

well you want to conserve Global Homer

is that what you want to do

we want to conserve

um

foreign

we want to conserve basic human

sensibilities

that allow people to

make sense of the world

and be human

I mean people already pre-human

no they're not they're people are losing

their humanity and they're losing their

ability to make sense of their own

Humanity

and what you think this is due to

Western degeneracy is this what it is

I think it's due to the uh implosion of

Western Civilization since modernity

culminating in this point

so so overall like uh

you're gonna basically

Lop is like what like so conservative

Communists that we don't have to learn

as conservatives we are conservatives

so you okay so you're so you are

actually our Defense Finance

conservative thank you so much for the

Ray jackson appreciate you yeah we are

conservative do you have a problem with

like uh feminists within your movement

because this is bad Optics dude to be

honest

why

why yeah

because at the end of the day the only

people that you're gonna attract is

these like weird Alex Jones and like the

red pill Community like we talked about

before but like you're just gonna

attract these like right I think that's

a subjective judgment if you're calling

them weird I think any political

movement that's outside the mainstream

will attract weird people but

don't you think that

leftists are the weird ones mostly

left this

yeah

in America and in the UK

I mean my own personal opinions is

become like a cons I'm like a Christian

I'm a conservative in my own regards but

I don't agree with like the entire

movement being based around that no it's

not it's not entirely based on that but

we have to emphasize that to distinguish

ourselves

from the so-called leftists

yeah and you guys the problem is is that

inevitably

you guys are gonna have to probably work

with these quote-unquote leftists right

why yeah why would we have to work with

them when they just serve the function

of serving Democrats

well I think you have a revenue a moment

they would split away from the Democrats

so I do believe that

split away from now I'll explain this to

you in order to split away from

forget about splitting in order to

constitute anything politically

you have to base yourself in something

how will leftists split from the

Democrats what will they base themselves

in

what class what power what

what reality they would face themselves

in the

the left socialist working class set

there's none you know there is none

quote to generates that's where there

was basically there is no such thing in

the if you're referring to d-class

elements and people who are used to who

are living in Brooklyn

they will never that's already the DSA

by the way

but the Democratic party is a national

party

so the DSA May base itself among these

people that you refer to as working

class when it's not that they're working

class it's just that they don't really

own anything

but they're not working class they're

just salaried kind of do not classified

stuff as well because it's working

crafts not always no geography is very

important so a service worker who's

working at a Dunkin Donuts in Idaho

probably is a day in day out nine to

five working class guy

but a barista in the middle of Brooklyn

is very likely not

a member of the working class

even if they had to sell that labor to

survive that's a dogmatic definition

that is inapplicable into no it is

applicable not not today it isn't

it yes

it is absolutely not do you do not

believe that people have to sell their

name to survive

I don't think they're selling labor at

all

well they are

nope

I don't think a prostitute is selling

labor

I'm not talking about like a prostitute

here I'm talking about if someone's

making you your fucking coffee at the

end of the day they're still in La were

they giving them they're not to make you

sing well even if they were selling s

their labor that would be an

infinitesimally small quantity of Labor

value compared to what they get paid

their wages cannot justify their the

labor they're doing cannot justify their

their wages

but so you think so by the way so under

like

um

let's say

Mao's China or

uh silence us saw where they had

communal kitchens right and they would

cook food for the masses of workers do

you think that these chefs and people

that would cook the food they weren't

Justified a decent wage for what they

did those were socialist countries

yeah but the

it still applies right why does it still

apply those are socialist countries

because even if America was socialist

you would still need some service

workers like do you not understand that

uh you wouldn't need Starbucks ones but

even if you did need like a chef in the

kitchen for you know a Barracks or

something

that's not a class anymore they're not

part of any separate class

again but what we're talking about it is

by the way in the USSR during the

context is also different because you

didn't have an automation like we have

now so service work thank you automation

however like if you do magically enact

the Socialist Revolution

it does you're not going to immediately

automate the entire country it's going

to take time you're still going to have

those service workers that are still

working

I I don't think you will though because

I think

first of all the Community Kitchens

did not last very long by the way I know

they were they got a Resurgence in the

people's communes which also didn't last

extraordinarily long

but uh

even in that context uh division of

labor for menial tasks

when life itself is being socialized

which is what happened in those communes

is not the same

as people earning their living doing

these undignifying tasks

yeah for Starbucks or McDonald's it's

really not the same I mean if you look

at China people work in well 95

McDonald's jobs there so

yeah but if if

that was starting to become generalized

like it is here it would be a crisis for

the ruling party the ruling party

doesn't want

a service economy to be a general yeah

but they still have to have service

workers okay I'm thinking of

understanding that statement you still

need service workers you still need I I

beg to differ

you no but dudes as the people like the

proof is in the pudding right look at

China they still need service workers

and they're fully like they are fully

adopting automation where they can and

they still need service that's um not

necessarily true China well look you're

speaking in in the midst of change right

now by the way

but China does not want to grow a large

service economy

they

don't but

first of all

there's many problems with what you're

saying I'm not sure what the

unionization situation is for Chinese

service workers I doubt they're allowed

to form independent new unions so that's

one problem

even if I entertain the idea that there

will need to be service workers the

difference is that Chinese unions

are loyal to the state and are State

unions

controlled by the party right so okay

the emergence of those Union unions

precluded Chinese Communist Party

already being in power the question of

what role those Unions would play in a

road to power of actually having to take

power would be entirely different even

if I agreed with you that those jobs

have to exist which I don't by the way

again this is that that's again let's

not look a proper like material analysis

then because why not reality is they do

need to exist this is like why do they

need to exist

why do service workers need to exist

well people you people want to go to a

restaurant people want to take their

fucking their girlfriend their wife to a

restaurant like these people still need

to exist like what do you want to just

magically vanished overnight these

things still have to be in place

they don't have to be at all they exist

because of the dictates of the consumer

Market which have been imported more or

less from the Western model

in China

China's future you can't say because

they have these things that this is the

path for China China is very quickly

modernized and has imported a lot of the

um phenomena from the West

very immediately without you know China

May Ponder upon what will a socialistic

alternative to service look like maybe

in 20 years or something they'll embark

on I don't know but

I just find it a very tenuous

claim

what's very Dangerously

that there has to be a service economy

in China no it's not it's not the entire

look dude

people want look okay people will still

need restaurants people still need why

do you think why do you think people so

my view has always been by the way on

this question is that

phenomena like restaurants

should be owned and runed by people

because they want to be doing that

because it's their passion and it's

something they do on their own free time

not yeah not not something people do

because

they have to to earn a living I feel

like restaurants and other luxury

service

sectors should not be based on

like necessity

whereas working in a coal mine or

something or in a factory should be

based on necessity because it's a real

use value necessity of society that's

not based on subjective whim directly at

least

do not think the will of the working

class should have book a saying like

what gets produced what jobs are

available what things they need I mean

the US saw it right it's not it's not a

matter of the will of the working class

or the will of anyone it's a matter of

direct natural because you understand

that U.S restaurants

foreign

so if everyone had to work an hour or

two a day doing a

heavy industry job or at least

some days out of the week

just hypothetically and then on their

own spare time they want to run a

restaurant what's wrong with that

yeah no problem maybe if they're

successful enough in running their

restaurant they can be relieved of that

job somehow and

spend all of their time doing it if it's

successful enough and viable enough so

what's wrong with that

why should anyone yeah I have no problem

with that but I just don't agree with

this argument that um

you're magically just gonna

um make these things disappear like

people still

look kind of need well so I can need me

to the manufacturing cold so speaking is

cold Etc but speaking strictly in terms

of logic

the argument is indistinguishable from

the sex trade argument that prostitution

no it

is

I know the difference is that there's no

prostitution going on right there's no

sex okay so wait if everybody had

kitchens in the USSR right why was there

restaurants in USA if it was such

degrading work

it wasn't really degrading work in the

USSR

no but I'm saying that people still have

to have these jobs right they still had

to do these jobs because people wanted

to go to a restaurant right now when the

sun is I think those jobs were sought

after

because they were pretty well paying

actually

yeah but the point still stands people

wanted to do these shops

yeah they wanted to that's the clear

difference here and people wanted

restaurants

but the problem is that the service

sector as it exists is based on coercion

not based on what you want to do

nobody if there's actually a SpongeBob

SquarePants out there who wants to work

at McDonald's

they shouldn't be forcing every they

shouldn't be upholding the institution

of the service sector

at everyone else's expense because of

what they want if they want to do it

they should do it on their own time

the USSR was a top-down centrally

planned economy

so the logic is completely different and

I understand that

but that kind of economy is not going to

be coming back anyway we're not going to

be planning every minute detail of life

and the economy from the top down

take care

so

how's you understand that there's like

um I'm not against service work I'm

against the institutionalization of

service work

okay

but the thing is that these look even in

knock Soviet Union there was an

institutionalized service work

everything was institutionalized in the

Soviet Union yeah yeah so I don't think

that's going to be the case for the

future of uh so how do you think of

working Casper say to them and they're

like when you lied to them yeah there's

no restaurants and not a few people that

want to open restaurants it's not going

to be good for people it's not going to

be a few people

I think there's a lot of people that

enjoy cooking don't get me wrong but I

don't think there's a lot of people that

enjoy fucking uh

slaving over another and for like

what's

six hours out then I don't think a lot

of people enjoy that

nobody should be working at a restaurant

unless they want to that's my view

whereas

in the period of early socialism as Marx

put it

everyone must work some kind of job

based on necessity

regardless of what they want

and I don't think those kinds of jobs

should be service jobs at all

so you think uh

so you think they're basically

um

just gather the sub sector

be gone with it forever

even though you know some people do

kind of neither okay so let me give you

an example Valentine's Day is coming up

right

you know what what people gonna do when

there's no fucking restaurants and they

can't take their wife out they can't

take their girlfriend out are they just

gonna work just what are people gonna do

in the incoming economic collapse

that is gonna destroy the system

again you're

you're going way off track no I'm not

sure you're gonna do socialism

uh a dude in a circumstance of a

revolution

Valentine's Day will be the least of

people's worries I promise

yeah I mean uh I think we both agree

with that but we're talking about the

socialism here right so your argument is

is that as infrared you guys want to

abolish your service industry right so

what I'm saying is it's selfish and she

needs to exist for things that people

want to do so the answer is free time

yeah I think people should have free

time we need a different socialistic

Civil Society economy

I have to explain this to you

so the capitalistic form of economic

relations

are based on universal exchange value

okay

that means you do a wage kind of job

or it's labor vouchers or whatever but

you get paid for a discrete input of

abstracted Labor time

that's the traditional form of a job

right

that will still exist in socialism

but in a very limited

form based in strict industrial economic

necessity

as far as the surpluses of production

are concerned and as far as the

surpluses of the economy is concerned

that will be subjected to forms of free

association and free time

where people will form a kind of new

economy not based on necessity anymore

but based on

their actual

artistic and scientific abilities

and Pursuits so

for example a restaurant will be

successful if it is popular not if it's

profitable necessarily if it's popular

yep

economic profitability will still be a

necessity

obviously for a long time but

we want to free up most of the economy

to be thrown to a different new kind of

information-based socialistic

a civil economy that's already we're

starting to see it now in different

kinds of ways like for example

uh Yelp reviews will make or break a

business right now right the gig economy

is an alternative form

and I'm not saying that's a form of free

association it's just it's the embryo of

something like that we're already

starting to see in the information age

in the fourth Industrial Revolution

yeah so like a YouTube review for an

example right being a YouTuber

Yeah well yeah well everything's kind of

becoming like that right yes sir if you

have a restaurant

leave your like or dislike and that's

gonna make or break it as an entity not

necessarily

uh profitability profitability is just a

form of data actually it's like the more

important thing is

is this something people want

so I think the consumer economy is not

the type of economy Marx describes in

capital

the capitalist economy is just based on

profit not based on

uh the want it's not based on want it's

based on need and then necessity the use

value

is ultimately based in profit all use

values Marx describes under capitalism

are oriented around

instrumentalized for the purposes of

surplus value right so the consumer

economy is different though it's not

based on that if there's if there's a

service that people want a huge huge

amount of people right but it's very

limited amount of uh

um people willing to go into that work

and don't bring up sex work any too bad

I I believe in a basic principle of

Justice where if people want something

but not a proportion amount of people

want to do it

then they they should either do it

themselves or have robots do it or stop

complaining

so you have to look very black and white

view on it correct yeah I don't think

it's fair that some people should have

to do things just because others want it

foreign

ification of desires I don't like this

idea of

I want your shoes

and you you know you want me to give you

a massage

I don't like that I don't like how two

things

are

um economized and commodified and

exchanged like that

I don't believe in that

I think

exchange should have to be reserved for

example material economic necessity

based in production

not based in Whimsical wants that are

part of culture

I mean because I do think you could

argue that people just want a car right

you don't need a car people want it so

well

toward what end because a car also has a

use in relation to production getting to

and from your job which is why most

people have cars by the way being able

to Traverse cities

as a strict matter of luxury I think

cars can be produced we already see

again the informatization

whatever you call it of

car industry in the form of Tesla

where production is very closely pegged

to demand

very closely that's why Tesla is

considered like a Soviet

Central planning with all the

inefficiencies and problems entailed

with that because it's like almost

socialistic in nature Tesla is like not

based in

like a strict putting it on the market

shelves and see if you can get sold it's

like you pre-order it first and then it

gets produced so you already see

elements of this in the information

economy

um and that is based on

um

that is based on

uh

that is based on

economic production and surpluses or

production

so you think that things like okay this

is I think it's a hierarchy right like

you go so you

you go from the collective necessity

based on Mankind's relationship to

Nature

and then the more you go down the ladder

of necessity the more there's

ambiguity is like does the toilet have

to look this way or can it look this way

that's where Choice plays a big factor

a lot of things Paul cockshaw talks

about about like uh the cybernetic kind

of feedback loops based in consumer

choices can play a role here right

then you go further down the hierarchy

to intangible the furthest lowest one is

the exchange of intangible services or

intangible Commodities which I think

should be eliminated completely I am

against

the exchange of

Services completely

so so

for example an Economy based on getting

cars

should be more like

uh

to translate this into the terms of

bartering you know

um

of uh uh 10 vacuum cleaners for a car I

know it's it's not realistic but not you

know I want a car so I'm gonna massage

your feet

should still be grounded in the

tangibility of production and

commodities

so do you like

that means like whatever labor voucher

system people have

I think people will be able to spend

money quote unquote

there will be a distribution of

things they can buy

there's an element of standardization

there where like is it normal for

everyone to have a car there's an

element of ambiguity there or some

geographies make it so a car is not

necessary I think those kind of things

can be taken into account

so how do you feel about the Amazon uh

like model then compared to the Tesla

Model do you think it's part of the same

thing more or less yeah because

I would do it I would agree with that

right so

yeah basically I think that I think a

socialistic economy

is already possible but it's not going

to completely replace

markets and all that kind of thing that

will still be here in the form of

um standardized jobs the decentralized

market economy will paradoxically Thrive

the most in the embryo of a socialistic

form of Civil Society

and why it's socialistic is not

necessarily based on the question of

ownership

because ownership I mean nobody

everything's been concentrated in the

hands of a humanopolies already

so it's not based on ownership

it's a question of

labor and the exchange of Labor that's

crucial

so

um

so so if a particular sub shops and

right uh let's go with

um it's an every driver right do you

order Uber Eats or order any takeaways

or anything I don't know if you do

um yeah I do so so somebody that does

search like undignified works you say

that like I I don't think of your food

and they're taking it to you like their

little slave and then they're driving

back and grabbing someone else's food

and then taking it them to the doctor's

name do you believe that kind of service

work should be abolished as well

uh ultimately yes but I don't consider

so how would you

so

what would we do about like things like

Uber Eats so I'll just manage right

yeah I would I would not place my own uh

lifestyle uh in front of what I consider

to be

a better or more just

Society

I wouldn't say oh this must stay because

I happen to use it that's a little I

mean don't you get your iPhone from my

children working in African Minds how

are you talking to me on the computer

right now

you know there's children and mines in

the Congo who mind the materials that

enabled the possibility of you being on

the internet

yeah

so why it's kind of a silly example

but uh I don't view

I don't view the gig economy

it's much

I mean any I I was gonna doordash at one

point I mean I didn't but I was very

close to it it's just there was some

complications

signing up but I've had friends do it

it's

it's a pretty egalitarian pretty

dignified job actually

believe it or not because you set your

own hours you don't have to deal with

anyone's bullshit you don't have to

smile to anyone you don't have to do any

of that it's pretty much just go to and

from and get paid choose your own hours

it really is much better than working at

McDonald's or Starbucks and uh

it's pretty respectable I mean it's not

a replacement the reason who ubereats

and doordash is a problem

is that you can't make a living off of

it but it's not really undignified you

just can't make a living off it

that's the problem with it and the

reason you can't make a living off of it

is because that form of service work

in the scheme of uh exchange values is

not very

much right

Uber also you know transporting people I

use Uber as well

um when I'm traveling

again it's not really that it's

undignified the the indignity

comes from the institutionalization

that's where the indignity mainly comes

from

yeah so you you both agree though that

we need these forms of like service work

none uh correct no we no what do you

mean we like

who is we right do do I need an Uber

when I'm at the airport

yeah but you can't translate that into a

social policy

because that's just a matter of

circumstances dictated outside of any

Collective will whatsoever

Uber doesn't exist because I need it at

the airport

rather I need Uber at the airport

because of changes and how as a society

Transportation has evolved

making it harder to get a taxi for

example

so that's not a matter of social policy

there's

plenty of things people rely on

that don't fit within their world view

of what they would consider to be an

optimal Society

so you do acknowledge now that service

work is a necessity you do it like

another chat at the moment no it's a

necessity for the individuals who are

engaged in it

yeah but dude if there was millions of

people that can get from A to B then I

think it would be a problem like if you

didn't have Bush drivers you didn't have

tax drivers like it would be a problem

but it's the chicken in the egg like

what are you saying are you saying so

what is your point like

it's it's not a state there it's an

anti-social phenomena it's not because

of uh socially conscious policy that

these things exist it's a matter of

circumstance

I mean somewhere along the supply chain

African children are necessary also

you are under your understanding of that

right without a comprehensive social no

no no no no no no this there's uh

I think I think there's a difference

right there isn't you could have

adults work in these jobs for like you

know the Cobalt mines you could have a

dog you could you could okay well if

we're free if we're free to start

changing circumstances we could also

have more free time and different

infrastructure which would radically

reduce the demand and necessity of these

kinds of things

yeah I agree look I've told you I agree

so as long as we're not free to change

the circumstances I think you understand

what I'm saying dude I think

so you acknowledge the fact that you

agree that we need service work no we do

we don't need it no even in the

socialism no saying saying we need these

things implies there's a collective

subjectivity that can change the

circumstances which there isn't so we

don't need them period because we can't

actually we're not in a position to

control the circumstances so how could

it be we need them who is we

as a society no there's no Society to

speak of that's responsible for this

there's an anarchy of the market as

angles would put it

I mean

example uh

you know

your I don't know family member

breaks their leg you need to get them an

Uber to explain so you need to get them

to the hospital right you need the swing

to do do you need these jobs to exist

you have to have the words no matter how

you look at it you're gonna need it

dude I don't know what you just said

because you were you said something

you're gonna need it okay

an ambulance I don't think that's really

a service job I don't think I would say

that but um

I mean the medical industry the medical

industry complicates medical industry

complicates a lot of things right in

terms of being able to like categorize

but um

personalizing

uh institutional and structural

phenomena is just meaningless

so your admin that at the moment in our

current Society

that we do not need service work you

You're Gonna Stand by that no we don't I

will stand by that yeah

and I think I think that's just a

completely ridiculous view to take at

the moment dude I think if I think I

think you're kind of confused still so

I'm gonna try and explain it to you but

you're gonna have to like really try and

hear what I'm saying because I've said

no no dude but a vast majority of mocks

than this and

a lot of people disagree to see I think

this is a fucking show me their results

where have those people done results huh

well your results so I don't see your

point

yeah I'm the one who's maligned by the

entirety of marxist learning this to the

point where I have to introduce

thousands of new people to it which is

going to take some time but I'm the one

who's maligned by all of them the reason

I'm not as popular as Hakeem and others

is because they canceled me they're the

ones who said we want to keep doing what

we're doing which is a dead end and we

reject what infrared is saying if those

people were listening to me right now I

promise you if all of the combined power

of marxist leninists were listening to

me right now

we would have a

Communist party in America with hundreds

of thousands of people in it already

promise

if I had I mean of clout and pop and

reach

if I had that many people taking me

seriously and listening to me I promise

you I would bet my life on it we would

have minimum 100 000 people in a

mainstream Communist party in this

country that's your problem no look

having such confused this right now we

can abolish yourself as soon as she is

completely like

ridiculous why is it ridiculous

because services are at the moment are

needed for society exist I don't think

you understand the word into it dude you

are not listening to what I'm saying for

the last time I have fucking distance no

you're not you keep referring to society

who is society

there's no Society dude makeup Society

dudes who is

who is society

you everybody

so the sum total of individuals of

society how do you establish that as a

singular subjectivity then

you understand let me explain to you

very slowly the point the point is this

when you say Society needs service work

you are establishing some kind of

collective subjectivity

which is already in a position of power

in terms of changing the circumstances

but we don't have that so we are dealt

circumstances owing not to what Society

needs but to the Anarchy of the market

Society is just adjusting itself to the

Anarchy of the market it's not doing

anything on behalf of society this is

just what we've been thrown at by the

Anarchy of the market

so saying Society needs this is wrong

we as individuals need it because it's

the consequence of the Anarchy of the

market

Society yes so yeah we need it at the

moment no as individuals as individuals

as Society in society okay we got rid of

the service industry right now to think

Society will run perfectly fine yes

if we got rid of it we would already be

Central planners who can organize our

economy in a way that we consider to be

rational or correct it wouldn't be based

on the Anarchy of the market so yes

so

dude you genuinely believe that you just

magically got rid of all uh no it's not

magic it's based on an actual plan

it's based on an actual plan it's not

Magic

it would be assuming we are in power

and are organizing the economy

accordingly yes I definitely think it

would be possible

so when I when I call you a pause when

you're in path right and I have to talk

to somebody on the call center you're

not gonna call me I promise I

you will not call me at all and um

uh dude I will I'll be cool then uh

whatever this fucking Soviet Republic of

America you're kind of dude you're just

doing you're making an irrational

argument right now you're trying to

remember because dude and then I'm gonna

I'm gonna answer somebody and it's gonna

be somebody on the phone a somebody

working at a call center which is a

service shop again another thing that's

needed and

um dude you don't realize uh

calling can be automated I mean for you

you have such an outdated mentality yeah

not the people how else do you maintain

American hegemony

yeah exactly have you tried calling them

fucking dude

you just sound very backward right now

we're imagining this future yes because

we're imagining this like futuristic

communist state

and you somehow still think there's

gonna be telephones why would there be

telephones in the first place oh you

want you want the marking up you want

the mark of the beasts in people's heads

that's what you want no I don't think

telephones as a form of Technology have

very long term it's just vestigial why

we use them right now it's not really so

how would we communicate people

dude

how do you think

on the internet yes

Elon Musk is already doing starlink

which is having satellite based internet

that is the future

5G 6G

you don't think there's gonna be ways

people

look I'm calling and talking to you

right now

look come on no you're not calling me

right now you're in my Discord which is

on the internet

yeah but I'm still like communicating

with you through a phone

okay

but I'm not gonna get into the

classifications of calling but like uh I

think a lot of people would classify

this as a call so

yeah but I'm saying why would a call

center need to exist when

you can just use the internet

for what

like if I if I have to fucking call

somebody to make a fucking complaint

then uh

I'm not going to use the internet I want

to talk to somebody

you uh you're not going to be able to

call the government and complain I

promise because you can't do that right

now already yeah name can you do that I

mean your local government probably yeah

I can uh I can right now your local

government you can't call the Paramount

leader

to complain to them

um

I probably could honestly

you can

I don't even remember who's the leader

of the UK right now who is it Rishi

sunak has his Line open to me trust me I

really doubt it

I'm just saying dude that like um you

you need to still communicate with

humans like I I don't I don't think

we're gonna get to the point where we

can communicate like completely

communicate with robots and have these

like uh humanistic relationships with

robots maybe you want that but okay on

an Institutional level if service work

is still necessary it should be kept to

a bare minimum and slowly eased out with

technology and if those people

so you admit to the fact that so you

finally admit that

service workers are necessary

no I don't

so no no did you basically conceded no I

entertained your hypothetical scenario

in which they would for some reason be

necessary on an Institutional level

however even if I entertain that

hypothetical scenario the amount of

quote-unquote service workers would be

so minuscule

that they would pale in comparison to

the amount now and in no way with their

existence justify the possibility of

classifying their form of activity as a

service economy in any way there would

be nothing economized

service work as a knock industry okay

yes we're talking about it as an

industry we're not talking about these

minuscule cases in which some kind of

service work such as answering the

telephone

would still be necessary

by the way it's very iffy in terms of

the definition of service work exactly

I would probably agree it's very iffy

because when I would probably Define

service work as based work that is based

on servicing people rather than things

when it comes to servicing things like a

janitor for example

I'm not exactly sure

that's service work

um as I would Define it at least

I think that's more maintenance work I

would probably call janitors maintenance

workers

so that could be a new category of

maintenance

is similar to the medical industry

probably so you're just gonna you're

gonna start making up all these

classifications now to try and not

concede your point no because service is

based on servicing other the whims of

other human beings period

the Whimsical desires of other human

beings

so basically us

you have basically submitted you have

conceded to my point at which point is

required

no I didn't I didn't do that and what no

there we don't need a service economy at

all

or service industry period

we don't need a service

Society doesn't need a service sector no

no okay I don't I don't think there's

anything like that's gonna

like uh make you understand and how like

a material like realistic level that you

would actually require like uh

subscribers gave you plenty of examples

and you seem you can't comprehend it

what give me an example of

it being materially necessary

for servicing other human beings desires

desires that's what the service industry

is based on

personal trainers what

a personal trainer

why would that be necessary

well some fat folks have got to lose

weight so so someone has to work for an

institution for a fat fuck

yeah I think it's a site we should no I

think the fat fuck's cousin can help

them train

or

that thing could exist as like a game

that thought you could be alone man not

good I'm thinking you're thinking in a

very uh again uh again

nothing should make

uh training a fat guy necessary should

not be based on necessity if there are

people who want to help fat people

and

somehow do that on the side then they

can do that most personal trainers by

the way

uh work on the side they don't like work

for a wage they work on the side

that exists now not the gyms around here

they work for the gym a lot of them

but the way they work for the gym is

that the gym gets a cut of what they do

but

it depends on the gym

no there's like not there's actually

like here in the UK like the local gym

so it's like you can actually work for

the journalist person trainer and as a

person trainer it's always available

it's definitely not

so

that's like saying um the military is a

service

I mean why is the meditating

that's like saying working in a factory

as a service because your service work

out machines like the one I had at my

house which eliminates personal trainers

LOL no I don't think there's any

structural or institutional reason for

why personal trainers should be

necessary

I have no doubt there are people who

would want to be personal trainers

on their spare time

that would probably require the fat guy

to actually form meaningfully human

relationships

with people that are not really

economized

let me let me explain to you how this

works by the way

so go on

when you do a favor for someone

as a human relationship

and they go oh my God thank you so much

for the favor here's a hundred dollars

it's kind of insulting isn't it

um

or when they do a favor for you and they

go okay you're in debt to me now give me

a hundred dollars basically shaking you

down I think that's insulting usually

how it works is you go out with someone

you pay for the meal

you know

it could be any kind of favor right

you do a favor for them

you help them move or something and then

you call them up for a favor and they do

something to help you

and although there is this implicit I am

obliged to help this person because they

helped me it's based on a human

relationship it's not based on a cold

exchange of commodities

and that is how most

Services should actually be like when it

comes to these interpersonal

relationships the fat guy

should be help someone with their

homework and in return that person will

be their personal trainer there's plenty

of things right but it should be based

in meaningful Human Relationships not

based on cold logic of Exchange

foreign

then people shouldn't be able to exact

things from other human beings

without having to have some kind of

relationship with them

an actual doctorate

no because it's not based on desire

doctors are based on Survival not desire

and um so you think that um

I'm just trying to understand it's like

a very Village logic if you want some

beef stew and some Babushka in the

village is making beef stew and they

offer you beef stew I mean it's like

it's like a human relationship it's not

you have to but you but then you

actually have to talk to them and you

have to you know

you have to sit with the family and they

can talk to you and whatever and that's

how it's that's the natural way that's

the human way it's not like uh you know

the cold abstraction of services based

on desire I think is an obscene and very

recent phenomena

is recent

it's an obscene yeah I do think so yeah

I don't I don't think it's recent

because I think I think it is you can

date things back look restaurants

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because even in the past a restaurant

a communal restaurant even though you

were paying money and shit whatever in a

village or something

restaurants were very personal it's like

you knew the guy working there and even

a bar or a pub where you live

it's like people know each other you

know the bar tender or the owner it's

very personal right

it's not just like okay take my money

and then fuck off

you would be kind of get strange looks

if that's how you behave because it's an

anti-social

Behavior but that anti-sociality has

been

institutionalized which I also rely on

by the way

but that's because I'm a person who's

been abstracted from any concrete human

community

and so you think you think that people

back

um way back when didn't go to like a

restaurant or a cafe or I don't know

what you have in America

um yeah I don't think it was as cold and

impersonal as it is now

we'll see dumping ages a and then fucked

off like you dumping those people like

that again I don't think it was this I

don't think they had like kiosks where

it's just like you automate your order

and then

yeah I don't think it was as cold and

impersonal again as it is now

yeah I think I think with one way off

fucking topic oh shit

yeah we did

yeah I didn't I didn't expect to get

into the service debate

I think I think dude you need to like

like maybe come to like an understanding

as to why

some things like I think I think you

didn't understand my argument as in at

the moment it is required that that was

it

I don't think it is on a social level I

think for individuals it is not on a

political or social level

foreign

so do you think the the like the

collective subjectivity should

um

should have any say what happens or it

has to constitute itself as I could

determinate

thing it has to be a party of some kind

and that's

it has to be something

work

we got

um so

it it doesn't matter whether

uh

90 of people agree that you know

attached drug needs to exist what

so it doesn't matter if there's uh

so you don't think that people should be

made to do a job that they don't want to

do

no not at all not at all well I don't

think that people I don't think people

should be made to do jobs has clearly

never been outside the West I don't

think people should be made to do jobs

that are not necessary for society but

are just necessary for some subjective

desire

so what about things that are look we

would consider necessary at the moment

for the exactly like the example you

know the only things that are necessary

from a materialist perspective are that

which physically reproduces the

conditions

of production

So Physical base production is

definitely necessary

so like like the example you gave

earlier like uh taking things from X to

B right

um yeah do you not think these but what

do you think this is necessary huh

so we're taking things from uh X place

to another X place do you not think this

is necessary

yes but what things

okay let's

it can be anything from Industrial

Hardware to

uh you know in the industrial Machinery

to yeah of course yeah transportation is

a blue collar job definitely

and so you believe then that these

people should be paid

uh in the form in Return of what how

should they be you've returned with

it could be a in the form of a gig

economy or it can be something else

so would you be fine with people doing

the same thing for

um this the current Services industry

dude I'm just sick of how long this

argument's been all right

for the last time because you can't do

the same fucking thing because the

service industry is there's a local

Starbucks it's a nine to five

institutional job there's a manager the

manager tells you you have to smile and

you have to do this and do that and you

have to say please and thank you to the

customer welcome to retarded Burger King

and one two one yeah

fuck you dude and throw the coffee you

love you like what the fuck do you want

man

I don't want a service industry period

I I just don't see how Nativity it would

function in society as we have it today

and I don't I don't think the collective

would agree with all right dude but

we've already been through every

possible dialogue tree for this specific

debate yeah but I'm just saying the

collective would not agree with you

whatsoever it would not agree with you

in any regards the collective

sovereignty is is is not based on some

arbitrary will okay the destruction it's

not based on your believer so but my

will is not arbitrary it is based on

science The Immortal science of Marxism

minorism it's not my subjectivity it's

fucking science

um

the destruction of Starbucks is

literally science it's not based on what

I like or what I don't like it's science

basic science

now I think that you've just got a

particular problem with these jobs and

you you have to hold no it's not it's

based on the material role they play in

production you have to hold this

particular view nope it's based in

science it's based in science

and necessity necessity is not based in

subjective will it's based in material

reality

again but you you won't agree to what's

not saying what is going to say and I

gave an example of a service that is

necessary and in use some you started

like uh all I have done is say no one

should have to work because of what

someone else wants how is that okay well

we can apply that to every fucking

industry dudes so no you can't dude

because guess what mining coal or mining

oil isn't based on some guy wants it you

need that to power everything

you need it

fucking building I just say somebody

wants to fucking pass somebody wants to

electricity I can make the fucking we

could go down this fucking rabbit dude

no no it's not it's literally based in

an objective relationship between

Mankind and nature that is general and

objective it's man and nature not man's

desire in another man's desire there's a

big difference

dude food

we have to eat we have to shelter

ourselves we have to clothe ourselves we

have to have energy to power our

productive forces none of those things

are Whimsical that is direct material

necessity

yeah

but I'll just manufacturing bricks that

are used to build things doesn't matter

what you're going to build you need a

fucking bricks right it's not

just like a service shop it's something

materially necessary thank you Anonymous

another narc

yeah I think uh it's just been a fucking

Rabbit Hole I don't I don't think even

was still gonna agree and I think that

you're very like stuck in in the spirit

and I I don't think I'm gonna change it

I don't think anyone will cause yes okay

another form of ignorance

I'm I am the one making an argument and

you're just repeating the same thing

yeah no but you'll repeat the same thing

and I'm repeating the same thing so we

we want to move on we can

okay

so is anything else you want to talk

about you were the one who wanted to

come here

I mean um

yeah I mean overall so what we've

concluded is that you're fine with your

fan base running around

spewing Neo-Nazi talking points that's a

new thing hey cool

what hateful what Neo-Nazi you came to

us yeah what new Nazi talking points

does my fan base View

what that they hate fucking gays and uh

first of all my fan base does not spew

that view at all

no they don't

dude my Telegram

my telegram my telegram hey shut up for

two seconds shut the fuck up for two

seconds no dude so don't be fucking my

telegram you're getting emotional

without even hearing reason

myself

come on and keep talking keep talking

then go ahead and let me know when

you're right yeah we'll keep talking uh

when you're done then

uh your telegram is just filled with

just absolute fucking ridiculous views

that are spouted out by your fan base

and um you're fine with that you're fine

with them basically hating gay people

and uh

and anything that they consider

basically the genre

you've done what you'll find me if and

that's a representation of infrared to

your community that you're trying to

build the movement you're trying to

build will you swear on your mother's

life that there is nothing I could say

to there's no nothing you're missing

when you say that that what you said is

absolutely true there's nothing anyone

can say to disprove it it is the word of

God himself would you swear on your

mother's life

I've told many people fans dude I'll

talk to him on a fucking daily basis

would you swear on your mother's life

to him all the time I told all your

fucking fans too that's not what I asked

you fucking loonies you are making you

are doing something president Sunday did

our last debate with him you're saying

something but you don't want to hear the

response why is that

no go on just spouse it spout what

you're gonna say

the telegram is open to everyone and it

is usually reserved for the people who

cannot be in our Discord because of

Discord censorship the telegram

enforces nothing there are no rules at

all except you cannot say the n-word and

there can be no sexual content other

than that we have no rules in the

telegram the telegram has a lot of

far-right people on it and yes there are

Wing gnats and all sorts of people and

there's about a thousand people in your

television I'd say that's your main look

no it's not

like uh we have 3 000 people in the

Discord

okay comparison the telegram is not

representative of the community

you must active people are not captive

on the telegram though from what I can

tell but those are not all our people

the telegram is always a Battleground

between infrared fans and these

far-right people it happens all the time

it's like a constant thing especially

over the anti-Semitism stuff it's always

a huge Battleground you know you realize

the telegram

is full of people who just talk shit to

me all the time who are coming from the

far right that come there to vent their

complaints against me

so why is why do you assume that the

telegram

is representative of the community how

is it

well it's the kind of people you attract

and the people that you attract seems no

I'm a I just happen to be hold on no

it's not that hold on hold on right dude

do you attract fascists that's just a

reality you you no I don't I don't

attract anyone standing there saying

that's what you contact he wants to keep

mousing off he's incapable of listening

to reasons so keep mouthing off

I don't uh

keep going I'll be guessed what it is

man you need to accept what yeah you are

dude you are basically a magnet you are

so profoundly stupid it is incredible I

don't attract them I just don't censor

them everyone attracts them an equal

amount it's just that my community is

not scared of them we can actually

debate them no you may you accept him

just enough you accept them just enough

we don't accept anything we actually

accept that reactionary views just

enough that that's the thing what

reaction are reviews what reactionary

views

mobile reaction reviews yeah what

reaction reviews

again if we're talking about it the view

of

um

in of like lgbtq people why is that okay

so was Stalin a reactionary

what matters is what I promote not some

stuff you see on the ground

we just aren't sensitive about it that's

the difference we're just not sensitive

we have a clear line and principle when

it comes to these kinds of things

but we're not like

snowflakes who are scared that these

other people have these views it's just

we have a very clear position at the top

people can have all kinds of sentiment

they want it's like

concretely it's there's no obscene

violence going on so I don't see what

point what's the point

do you do you believe that people then

you're uh

your movement could get to that point no

there would have to be a deviation in

the line that's coming from me

for it to get to that point

because we have a very clear line

you have a very clear line I mean uh

I'd like you the vast majority of your

members that do have very clear language

actually

I want to give you an example of this

if you have a politically correct

mentality please never go on the Chinese

internet

because all sorts of obscenities and

racism and everything is there dude it's

all there

it's very common sentiment in China

racism is very common I'm fine with that

no can I clarify personally I'm fine

with it but it's but that doesn't mean

China's a racist civilization because

the representatives and leaders of China

how am I pandering to anyone

wait what

there's no need to Pander to anyone when

we're just espousing

but there's a very dominant view within

your community that is basically X

fingers to generate if you don't agree

but like I think animals I think anime

is degenerate I don't I don't have a

problem calling things degenerate it's

Orthodox Marxism leninism to do that

foreign

like uh argument man is that

if your community is like against sync

that is your camera they consider the

general if they considered like being

gay as the general they don't dude can

you

so overall you advocate for absolute

like look a classical liberal like

absolute freedom of speech

what do you mean I mean

no because we don't allow the n-word and

we don't allow sexual content

so we don't consider ideology a threat

no

we think that the standard

uh policy of proletarian dictatorships

was reserved for a different information

environment

which was based in the centralization of

information

and that in the information age

censorship based on

political and ideological expression we

aspire to not have to censor any of that

ever

because we don't think it's inherently a

threat

that's our aspiration as a new

generation of American communists

we just don't see it if it to be a

threat that needs to be censored it's

like

um of course actions should be censored

sexual sex should be censored

uh anime should be censored all that

kind of stuff but

uh

speech of an abstract political position

or ideology I don't think so

hello

hello

yeah yeah

um

yeah so

so you would so you would disagree then

overall that infrared does not panda

to and bow down pretty much which is

what I see from you guys tonight no we

don't because we don't believe in the

meaningfulness of the previous form of

political uh Spectrum

except that we disagree that there is a

left and a right we just don't agree

that that the application of that okay

when I'm talking about the left and the

right I'm talking about generalized Time

Saver okay yeah I get what you're saying

the dissident right so so quote unquote

but yeah okay I don't think the

dissident right has a monopoly on the

things it's known for

the dissonant right doesn't isn't the

only people who can be pointing out

the things that they point out

and we can be friendly with people on

the dissident right but when have we

Pander to them honestly like we have our

own line we have our own position

and uh the dissident right is itself is

a changing and will it always be the

dissident right I don't know

I think you're looking at a new populist

Center that's emerging

that's not very clear whether it's left

or right yet and that's something marker

is right

no

you actually don't believe it traveling

well nope I think Maga represents either

a new popular Center or in many cases is

probably left wing right Maga

is positioned against the entirety of

the political consensus the political

establishment objectively it is Maga is

the yeah I'm talking about you would not

okay tradition it's also the preeminent

anti-war movement in the country

yeah I would actually agree with that

even even their opposition to China is

not based in the language of War there

is a clear condemnation of Nancy

Pelosi's visit to Taiwan for example

there are conspiracy theories aimed at

China which I think are baseless and I

we combat them wherever we see them

but even they don't want war with China

so so the magic movement is not based in

like uh this idea of

capitalism or like you know all sorts of

ideological

things I'm talking I'm talking about

like traditional like when I say right

Wings right let's not get a fucking you

know oh yeah they said that I'm talking

about the traditional values of it right

that ideology is very prominent in Mago

but we think it's more than that we

don't we don't see we we're trying to

look below the surface not just on the

surface

I think

um

so do you not so you think that the

majority of manga is working class men

yeah

you don't think it's a middle class or

uh

no because that's the impression a lot

very very clear that he represents the

white middle class it's very clearly the

blue collar America

foreign

so would you would you look to change

the

um what infrared represents

at the moment then because it does it

does represent like the left wing

tip like if I'm talking from like a

normal person your average girl if I'm

looking at infrared I'm thinking this is

your you know economically left-wing you

know right-wing social policy would you

agree that's what infrared is

ah no

I would just say

infrared

is

but you can understand why people

perceive it yeah I do I do I don't I

don't not to like I don't freak out when

people say that it's just if you ask me

it's not what I would say

but I I get why people are saying that

but

we're anticipating a political

realignment where

maybe in the future people won't

associate

conservative values with

a political right

anymore I think 2024 is going to shape a

lot of this by the way because

um the Mago wing of the GOP

is entering into an intense civil war

with the rest of the Republican Party

if you wanna if you wanna if you want to

tell people what infrared is you could

probably just get away with saying

their left-wing Maga

I would say that's fair just to say

left-wing Maga pretty much

um you could also say

they are against social liberalism

and are anti-woke

I think that's also Fair

so they're an anti-woke Maga

anti-woke left-wing Maga

could probably say that

so that's what we'll

do though

so will you um

so you you I think it's fair to say we

are the left wing we want to be the left

wing of Maga the Outlast kind of we want

to be the left wing of Maga right we

want we think Maga probably has two

Wings there's a left wing which is what

we want to be and there's a right wing

which probably wants to be more

conciliatory both conciliatory toward

the GOP

uh more hawkish on China

and

more kind of wants to get in bed with a

traditional Republican electorate

instead of the blue collar so that's

probably how I would characterize Maga

communism honestly and I I think the

problem is that you're on like a like a

dying movement right because DeSantis is

gonna like wob the fucking floor with

Trump yeah I see that no I I agree and I

see that but maybe I don't know actually

but I'm we're anticipating that at least

we're preparing for it

but I think the problem is that

we want to establish a chain of

succession and Maga is still a fertile

soil to succeed and begin from not end

with just begin from

and uh

I agree Maga as a movement may just die

but we just want to keep the flame going

into something else

I don't think a future political

anti-establishment movement is just

going to be outside of Maga

it's gonna have to

at least assimilate it or carry it

forward in some new way

so the ambition is to kind of take what

you can from I guess yeah and then

finally and where are you gonna fun at

it I mean you don't have a party

um

uh well there's plans for this month I

don't know if maybe it'll have to be

postponed to next month to Launch

a new political initiative

for on the ground

political stuff

building a

something like a party

but like uh what's it called CPI

no that was a think tank

yeah I mean we we probably we're gonna

we're pretty much gonna launch

a uh

a rogue wing of the cpusa

which will act you know it's going to be

the Communist party we want to see

in the world and we're pretty much gonna

it's a new strategy to take over the

cpusa but it's going to be in the form

of a

being the cpusa itself

so if hypothetically it's going to focus

on Praxis and not

not uh

not so much Democratic centralism just

the Praxis we want to see that's

combined with a decentralized

information technology so I look at as

you guys cool yourself like conservative

socialists right I mean uh you guys kind

of call yourself they started

conservative Communists yeah

red pill marxists and all this shit yeah

um

is that what you want the image of the

cpusa to potentially be

I mean it's not really the be-all

end-all it's not really our aesthetic we

are conservative yeah but more

fundamentally we're like

we want a forward-thinking

bold Forward Thinking

renewed kind of

very blue collar working class kind of

communism

that is like rugged uh

Industrial

kind like that's where we're really calm

it's not

conservatism is just part of it it's not

like the be-all end-all it just happens

to be conservative

I mean uh so

would you say that infrared latch Sean

would you okay I don't know uh

if we can say would you say that

infrared kind of took this path after

seeing January 6. afterwards Central the

right house

after what

would you say that infrared took this

path after January 6 and what basically

we took this path when we realized

that the the leftism is dead and we need

to actually reach out to the masses

instead of trying to Pander to leftists

which we in a way we're doing

we were like trying to dwell within

leftism and participate with them and

kind of follow their rules and be all in

that and then you know the there was

such a evil that was coming from leftism

it's like fuck we want to start from

scratch

start from zero

we don't need any of this

uh

I would actually agree yeah I don't uh

I I think the left is

I think I think look there's no work in

classroom at the moment and I think I

think this is where we would actually

disagree I don't think uh

um

age is a working classmate should see

it's there

so what is it then

I would say it's more

um

you know

it's more of like a an angry sentiment

of the white

middle class pretty much

well middle class is an ambiguous term

the middle class can also be referring

to like

Suburban

um you know Democrats who have BLM

lawnmower signs sorry lawn signs

so I disagree I think it's I would call

it the blue collar working class

a construction worker

is

more Maga unless they're in a union in

which case they're still probably Maga

but have to fake it

generally Maga

unless out of convention

for some reason

just the average of blue-collar American

generally Maga

or they're outside of politics

altogether but to the extent that there

is a political Consciousness among them

it's Maga

so you got to start with their level of

consciousness

and that's Maga

I think uh

I think so you do understand and

um

like Morgan

is

it doesn't have inherent like social

values that come with it then no that's

the point there's nothing it's a clean

slate

or any what you think manga is a

complete clean State yeah if as long as

you

have a counter hegemonic politics

Maga is a clean slate yes

yeah I mean

so

um if it does come to the point so you

basically you don't want to attract any

form of people from the like they're old

well what would call the old left today

so

um or Democratic socialists or any

people I don't want to chat to any of

them no not at all

foreign

would you be fine with the front

with a what

would like a front so kind of like yeah

but that's DSA and leftists will have

nothing to do with that

look put it this way I'll tell you I'll

give you an idea about the problem is so

my friend Jackson

you know who he is

he's speaking at an anti-war

rally

Washington DC

in about 10 days okay

very simple it's just about the Russell

Ukraine conflict

code pink and Veterans for peace pulled

out

because they accuse Jackson of having

inflammatory views on

a certain cultural issue you can't talk

about on YouTube very minor it is

irrelevant right

so they prioritized that over the

anti-war popular front or whatever there

is no way in hell A Renewed communist

movement is going to have anything to do

with leftist leftism and leftists none

at all

these people

will literally cancel each other

over

agreeing with me on anything

one time there's someone I know who was

getting canceled because they retweeted

me

or liked my tweet

just because I am who I am

I mean

yeah I think

I think I would agree that them has left

their soft failures if they're going to

give up so this has been going on for

about three hours we got to get

somewhere

I mean overall

I think if you want to come to a

conclusion I do think that to a certain

degree

and you you can make you can describe

Optics Wise from my perspective is

somebody that I didn't know too much

about in Threads I came on and I joined

your telegram uh just basically hearing

that you guys were playing the whole

we're conservatives cards and everything

from Optics perspective from my

perspective you guys do still give off

the vibe of like uh

you know the conservative socialists

like you're trying to blame stuff

that's fine we're here for the future we

want to build a movement outside all

these bubbles we want to reach the

workers

we're here for the future we don't care

about any of the

we don't care about

any of the conventionally established

political communities anywhere

we're here for the future

it's as simple as that

yeah I mean

I mean that's who that's a good thing I

mean all right if you want to wrap it up

we can okay sure all right bye-bye

all right all right guys now we're gonna

we don't have a lot of time that's the

problem right but uh

we're gonna have some fun

together

because I have a surprise for you

oh boy do I have a surprise

for you

[Laughter]

thank you so much John I appreciate you

man

appreciate you it's on

appreciate you oh do I got a surprise

all right

shit is about to get real

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good morning Revolution good morning

Revolution lion oh boy we're lagging

we're lagging

we're lagging

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oh hell guys I'm trapped

I'm lagging

I'm like

oh boy

there's a certain no we're not going to

be able to name him that

well on Rumble we can but

all right guys

[Music]

we're preparing the shaders oh my God oh

my God paper wind

paper wind

is that paper wind is the owl

oh oh my God paper wind sent me the owl

what did he give me

oh my God

it appears I have been accepted to go to

Hogwarts

oh my paper wind he has sent me the

letter of acceptance

oh boy

I will go to Hogwarts

all right

let's get into the groove of it

because we're going to be going to what

I've been accepted

to Hogwarts

I've been accepted thank you so much

Harold wizard Paul Potter thank you so

much Harold

I appreciate it Harold but

the game

the Hogwarts is taking so long to load

the shaders

all of the shaders

are taking there's 75 done but it's

still quite a drudgery

but we are going to go find Dumbledore

yes we're going to go be finding

Dumbledore

and uh

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Voldemort

because

we must discover the truth thank you so

much Chris Morlock glad to put my foot

down on Harry Potter good night

Goodbye Chris Morlock I've been frozen

help me

Frozen in Time

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I've literally been frozen

can anyone hear me

what am I to do

am I Frozen or what menu reader

off why the Press spacebar to toggle why

is there text to speech

why the fuck have I been frozen

what have I done to deserve this

what have I done

do you need a lift to Hogwarts sir we're

back

right well I've got a text to speech

foreign

ER accessibility option I don't want it

uh cursor sent there's so much shit here

continue

Okay I accept all your terms of service

no I don't want to fucking link my

fucking account

fuck off I don't give a fuck

I don't give a fuck about all this shit

okay

[Music]

or I want to do ultra

Graphics Ray tracing yes yes yes

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apply the settings

I don't give a fuck restart the game

fine bitch continue

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the fuck do I have a RTX 3070 to not max

out this fucking game

all right we're gonna we're gonna um

okay

we've got it

all right

okay

here Begins the semester

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game capture any full screen application

okay I I'm hoping we are eventually

bound to get captured

yeah

yeah okay

all right

let's get on with it

[Music]

I'm gonna start with what they give us

face shape

beautiful

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beautiful

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just stunning

it's exactly what we're looking for

Alice is this it

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you can't make him fat

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you literally can't make him fat

you literally can't even make him fat

the fuck is this

and this is I thought you can like

chisel their face in depth

I thought you'd be able to like chisel

the face and do all that

the fuck all right we're going bald I

don't give a fuck give me the bald one

give me the fucking bald one dude yes

yeah I can't be bald there's no matter

male pattern baldness accessibility

fuck this game

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the fuck is this you just can't have

blue hair either right

oh

you can't mate you can have the blow huh

ah perfect purple hair that's exactly

what we're looking for

yes that's exactly what we want

beautiful

beautiful

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truly inclusive features

yes

it's gonna be a ginger

that the red hair or the green hair

yes we're gonna be the Joker

okay

it's exactly what we're doing

you're a wizard Harry

I'm a scarred

yes

[Music]

all right this is uh too many options

honestly I don't want any freckles

or take a mole all right

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eye color

black

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the eyebrows need to of course yes

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this is this is exactly what we seek

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can I just have dark ones

beautiful

beautiful

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two voices I am indeed a student it was

wonderful

that was quite something I'm eager to

get to hulks me I am indeed a student

but I could very well be able to help

you

it was wonderful I believe I'm re that

was quite something

I'm eager to get to hogsmeade

all right all right all right all right

perfect

I can't change the body shape

I can't change the body shape in any

capacity

there's no way can I identify as the

other gender

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perfectly inclusive game

but there are no Xeno genders

should I be a witch no what happened

I was a female

why did that happen oh we can't change

it I was stuck with it

we're just gonna have to keep sprouting

we didn't have a bit more time to spend

on spell casting I presume you've been

practicing the Spells we worked on I

have Professor shut the fuck up quite

sure I've never seen anyone take so

quickly to a secondhand one Professor

you'll be a force to be reckoned with

when you get your own

thank you Professor fake I appreciate

you working with me all the time

cryptic description of our location did

not thwart you're finding us I've

apparated to more vaguely to find

destinations than this we're playing as

a cannibal calculated playing as a

cannibal gave quite the frights thank

you Cyrus

too long when I received

I am here to make sure that Hogwarts of

course is up to date with the new

after you

we'll see about this I've been to the

castle we'll see about this old pile of

rocks

we'll see

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what the fuck

is that on purpose

this game sucks I can't even do anything

man

can I skip this

should I skip the scenes

I don't give a fuck

wow all right guys

not the towers just barely

yeah

and who is your traveling companion

a new student wait what year is it

2001 starting school as a fifth year

what how extraordinary where are we

going none of none of the faculty has

ever heard of anything no not like this

no I haven't you can't do this as the

other fifth years will have been

her magical skills why are we entering

into New York what is going on

begins no well you couldn't have asked

for a better mentor Professor fig is not

only an exceptional teacher he's also a

remarkably intuitive and gifted wizard

oh no prone to flattery I dare say it's

one of the reasons he's risen so far at

the ministry

not there

I have opinions differ as to how great a

threat Round Rock really is

although I've yet to convince my

colleagues at the minister can I

actually change the gender backs what

the fuck he's doing female gender

expressions and shit

I didn't want to I was literally an

accident I'm not even kidding did I

actually change it back

or am I stuck with this forever before

she died

wondering what the ministry knew am I

stuck with this forever

I literally didn't even choose this all

right should I once if I should restart

the game it was the last thing she said

this is absurd okay it came to me via

her owl

I'm stuck with this forever now I can

I can once if I should restart it I am

restarting it fuck this I'm restarting

it I cannot fuck off fuck off fuck off

fuck off I don't care I don't care

leave me alone I'm stuck forever now

you're hurt

perhaps a bit I hate these fucking

cutscenes take this it's wig and well

potion not stuff look at these

effeminate like behaviors

that's going on

they programmed it that way

Dad look how he's eating it he's like oh

drink it like this

can't believe he wanna give a fuck what

the hell got into that damn thing

attacking a carriage mid-air

a typical Dragon would never

professor

sir

where are we

not sure okay leave me alone let me go

okay

hurry asshole

what a name

let me free if you'd like to look around

it all right let me look around

stay close we've no idea who created

this pork all right no one has any idea

why

all right we're leaving

uh exit to main menu

yes

new character

I don't give a fuck

based

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gendum dysphoria exclamation thank you

Janna appreciate it

we're going back to the basics

all right really quickly

I realized we're gonna have a different

type of character because that fucking

voice was incredible

[Music]

I have insomnia similar to me

we're gonna have this

[Music]

I know exactly who we're going to be

foreign yes

[Music]

a few cobwebs I am indeed it was one I'm

eager to get the Hulk's meat

[Music]

salothea saw

[Music]

wait can I have an eye patch can I have

an eye patch

that would be very inclusive can I have

a fucking eye patch

where

this fucking socks

this shit socks can't have an eye

purchase ableism

Harry as hell

[Music]

the wizard is the male right or what is

it wizard is male all right we're

starting finally

[Music]

all right skip everything

nobody gives a fuck

nobody gives a fork

nobody gives a full

nobody gives a fork I promise

I mean you can't skip this one

but at least we're not stuck are you all

right

oh

take this it's wicked World potion he's

still acting effeminate second Monson

ban me a mirror thank you

dude he's still acting effeminate as

usual what is up with this

what is that I thought I chose the mail

[Music]

what happened

look at he's like effeminate I can't

believe gestures and stuff all right I

guess that's everyone get into that damn

thing I guess everyone's like that here

mid-air

a typical Dragon would never

professor

sir where are we

I'm not sure let me up but that key you

just let me go okay I want to start

being free to bring whoever touches it

to a specific place

oh as soon as I get up oh finally

feeling better sir

let me out look around a bit let me up

I would

fuck off my I'm sick of this dialogue

all right oh why all right

I can't punch nothing I can't do nothing

I can't do shit

what is that

can't do a damn thing

can't do nothing I'm just using all the

keys I can't this is all I can do

what is this fucking game

[Music]

I thought this game was open well didn't

it

some open world game in it

all right how far did that Porky take us

father from London than the carriage

traveled

somewhere in the Scottish home so those

rules that brexit in it where's the

brexit I do this has not been the day

either of us expected

we're gonna do the brexit for a reason

when it was Scottish didn't sign up for

it the SMP is not going to be up down

for it died in pursuit of whatever it

was meant to lead to

sure you're all right and wouldn't mind

indulging me I'd like to have a look

around absolutely so good let's see if

we're here to do brexit however faded it

may be

oh finally we're free we can truly truly

do as we plea you can't do shit man yeah

I was gonna test it

let me go brexit I want to brexit off of

this let me go it's time for some brexit

some brexit where do you suppose you're

going swimming

why give me this channel I'm gonna keep

rolling Miriam spent years

of a long forgotten why this old pedo

get away from me

ancient Magic

yes a powerful magic wielded by a rare

few get away from me we're doing brexit

I'm brexiting out of here

Hogwarts Castle was built by him and now

I gotta watch

if I can do anything about it I don't

know

it's Sonic

but I am certain it was to do with it

it's literally Sonic but there's a wall

down below this way

sir why was your wife searching for

evidence oh I can't imagine I can raise

my one and then and then what I raised

it disappeared from The Wizard and then

what spoke of the good it could do but

magic is no different and I will raise a

point of my own what really matters is

the one who this is a troubled child

who's bringing

he doesn't like people who have glasses

let's just say that it's not cold enough

here he's got scars he's got the scars

to show for it someone wanted to block

if I may raise a point see some of that

one word this does not seem to be

reflective on the center of what is

going on

all right

all right I'm I'm holding it

oh okay

so I can I can only uh oh shit

[Music]

let's get this guy

thank you sir

foreign

plan here

I am a wizard under the apprenticeship

of Sailor saw

that name has not been spoken in

Hogwarts in eons yes and I am here to

continue the work of salafar

come back here

up there sail off will be revived from

his tomb and Hogwarts will rule the day

that they sided with the Vietnamese

revisionists

back here

for me social imperialism

ends here my good sir

sail off saw has his last laugh you

can't do shit you can you can't do a

fucking thing

I thought you could do anything

all you can do is follow this old pedo

that's this whole game is just follow

the pedal

and I I can't do anything

I'm completely locked out I'm locked out

this game is so fun

guys I'm having so much fun doing

nothing and just watching cutscenes

and doing this this so the whole game is

watching cut scenes and doing this

yeah great game

great game

stay lost

say lost

say

lost the Rises

[Music]

glory to sail off

say Loth

glory to say love

the winds and the storms of the sea will

bring sail off to Hogwarts

Harry Potter will pay for siding with

the Vietnamese social imperialists

say love

the good word of Sailor

oh my God you can just all you could do

is run jump roll and do this that's it

thank you

yeah

okay this game's a lot of fun

why would someone have built this here I

suspect they valued their privacy let me

run you are disrespecting my privacy

the place

yeah I have to walk right I literally

have to walk right

okay

I hate how these games like

they just what they just force you to

watch what I'm not here to if I wanted

to watch a movie I'd watch a fucking

movie dude

this just seems out of the ordinary it's

a mirror of some kind

you didn't think I could see that you

dumb little shit you don't think I could

see the fucking mural as the first thing

you see when you walk in here

you snot nose dumb little stupid fuck

who the fuck will got you into Hogwarts

you dumb fuck

how the fuck is that an observation

Captain Obvious

yeah what do I get paid for these stupid

kids

you're gonna get held back

matter of fact there's a reason the

carriage was not particularly long

we didn't have a long Carriage we had a

pretty short Carriage on the way here

just for you

and I can't do anything about it right

oh I can run now I gotta walk there

all right guys thank you Carlos

professor

yeah this could have been another

skippable cutscene

why would someone have conjured that

Enchanted Stone I'm gonna I'm gonna be

the inner thoughts of this character

ready this is the inner thoughts

remember your mission

sailor awaits

remember your mission you must pretend

to blend in

for sailorth Rises

gain their trust

in roderick's heart

where are we I don't believe it

JK Rowling

[Laughter]

how many genders are there

hello

I'm trying guys I'm trying to enjoy this

all right I'm really trying

I just I I can skip it thank God

what the fuck

how many votes are there what the fuck

hundreds in fact you'll see quite a few

on our way the graphics are not bad as

we speak we're just beneath the main

lobby

not the tower private entrances to the

bank common at Gringotts say laugh

and that was a thing or two about

traversing these Caverns

away all enchantments it's a security

measure experience the thief's downfall

before have you heard of it

these are the guys can you translate

this I really can't speak this British

what

Bank settling with quite a distance to

go brexit here we come fuck the you

I can skip it

here we are

get me the fuck out of here

Jeremy corbyn

[Music]

Jeremy corbyn was accessed a goblin has

been stationed at my desk

in that time no one has visited vault

12.

that looks like the has

that looks like the this Goblin looks

like the has infrared Twitter Photoshop

thank you for your help

it looks like the Kremlin gremlin

you are

oh my God it's the Kremlin gremlin

oh my God it's

it's what Twitter says has from infrared

looks like

now I can't I'm not even walking I can't

even stop walking I can't believe this

sir I wonder if you made instructions

for Vault 12 indicate that I am to Grant

access to the holder of the key and then

close the door

you are

[Music]

yeah

Professor that was certain what is going

on

let me think

there must be something

revelio perhaps

revelio yes a revealing charm no time

like the present let's see what we're

missing shall we

ready your wand and feel

oh my god dude what is this shit

okay

then what do you want I did both

[Music]

oh I see

all right

there I saw something

move a bit closer and try again

dude what is this like is this a is this

like a is this a male

I don't suppose yes girl yes girl that

was the one I saw on the porky container

if what you can see reveals the way

forward yes say we are about to discover

that yes

work it

laughs

you are

canceled

you are canceled

can you not wear that to the prom

you are canceled has

you are canceled

you are misogynist

you are racist

you are sexist

you are transphobic

you are homophobic

you are queer phobic

you are fat phobic

anywhere Ukraine phobic

canceled

Kremlin shell

canceled

bigot

xenophobic

trash

men are trash

men are trash

work it girl

boss

[Music]

fat bodies matter

and if you disagree

you're trash

and you're canceled

canceled

your banned from twitch

you're banned

and sold

misogynist sexist

racist

trash

lumos

so this they clearly didn't do male and

female on costumes oh man

[Music]

I can't see stay close you know what

Professor you are a bigot you are trash

you are sexist you are racist

stay close to the pedo

is what Harry Potter is teaching people

[Music]

I see something up ahead

what is it

that glow again but on the floor

when I moved towards the globe it

suddenly seemed as if the ground was

swirling about

are you all right

yes sir I'm fine

I have no choice I've got no choice got

no choices a statue

I see some sort of statue but only is a

reflection in the floor

oh I know what I gotta do it must be

sent to that reflection

this is what you saw reflected in the

gotcha the reflection still canceled

positions though I just got your tweet

from 2014 and you are a bigot

canceled perhaps you should cast lumos

this is how you cast spells in this

fucking game

let me go

all right how do I do it

okay

why not well done

I got myself a little light

it does follow the light

thanks

look at this

I am beating the drums of the ancestors

the indigenous ancestors

lumos

black lives matter raise your fists can

I kneel

[Music]

okay now what what does this want for me

what do I do

have to fight this guy

I love how you can't punch anything you

can't do anything like you can't can't

uh you can't like kick or punch or

anything you have to you have this

fucking stick

this magic wand

what a fucking game man

what a game

protecto

I want to use a sword you know I don't

want to fuck it

use a wand

this game would have potential if there

was melee combat I don't want to fucking

be like oh look at me I'm casting spells

oh wow look at me

what I mean

look at this like look at this shit dude

this is poisoning to you

ah

oh they want me to dodge stuff all right

go ahead

bitch

what do it again

oh no

do it again this time I've said dare you

I dare you try it try it try it bitch

are you scared you scared oh you dumb

bitch fucking pussy

I win

okay I gotta heal man I'm fucking about

to die

damn

this game's interesting man it's like

it's like it's like as a craving for

physical

melee combat there's a craving there

right and they don't give it to you you

just have this this is all you get

this is all you get right

kind of cringe Professor fig I'm coming

sailor

I can't find it

sailorth I'm jumping for joy

hurray I glow again

again

lumos

this game's like garbage

canceled

lumos

hip hip hurray

Christopher Robin Winnie the Pooh

Christopher Robin

I'm British look at me

and what do you want me to do

most elections

foreign

[Music]

and how the fuck do I do that

lumos Rebellion

lumos

oh like this

it seems I have no choice

I'm gonna fight my way out of him

[Music]

I can't even Dodge I can't even run I

can't do a damn thing in this game

and they they teleport all right

there you go fuck off

hey give it a rest

okay what the fuck is that

dude dude again this game's boring

yeah great game great fucking game

great game

honestly

[Music]

foreign

if I die I'm quitting I swear if I die I

quit I'm done

I promise I quit if I die I that's a

promise

what the fuck

okay I don't know what I'm supposed to

be doing here all right

I am gonna die soon

laughs

oh man what a game

what a game

[Music]

lumos

[Music]

damn I love games with long intros

they're so fun

that looks like a lot of fun

generic dungeon

looks the same

yeah give me a cutscene

just kidding I don't give a fuck

skipping at all I don't give a shit I

don't care too bad

too bad

come

we have a sorting ceremony to get to

they they put their so they uh

they

um

they they put their head in the fountain

and that brought them to Hogwarts

that's what happened

I can't skip this cutscene so we have to

watch him it's not letting me skip

all right we're watching it

the owl

it's the owl

owl say love

a sign of sail off

[Music]

foreign

I can't refund I bought it yesterday

can't skip

I know what Hogwarts looks like all

right I've played this I mean I've

watched the movies we haven't missed the

Sorting ceremony

I'm no expert but

that seems more appropriate what a pedal

creepy thing to do I need to study this

song

what is this pedal dude it's like taking

your clothes off

for the moment I ask that you keep all

that's happened between of course what

the fuck thank you did you guys hear

that shit he goes keep all that has

happened between us now I'm going to the

Headmaster

I'm telling them that shit you said that

you did yeah it's a bit older than the

others aren't you

you come here with preferences and

[Music]

I can't wait to explore I'm looking

forward to exploring if only you knew my

true motivations

the great sailor

awaits having an adventurous Spirit as

your professors have a great deal to

teach you as well

um

I wonder is there a reason I can't skip

this

dude I don't tell me how do I do

Slytherin tell me how do I do that

ambition the one that sounds like an

asshole I may seem single-minded but it

is important

she belongings

perfect

you belong in Slytherin

maze

good morning

Draco Malfoy

green like Libya's flag that's the

Gaddafi house where green like Gaddafi

and one more thing we got Gaddafi

Gaddafi Green Springs Gaddafi green

season has been cancer Gaddafi green

[Music]

where Gaddafi Green in here it's not

Gaddafi is here with us but

don't tempt me I don't care about this

old pedals don't give a fuck bitch don't

give a fuck bitch shut the fuck up can't

skip this

[Music]

can't skip it it's not letting me

[Music]

call Taz

bro look how they walk

androgynous walk

does a man walk like this

hey Mom Dumbledore

I can finally explore

if I can't bully students

I suppose

they don't give a fuck they don't even

react

okay now I do have the power to cancel

let's go

excuse me

at the end of the Sorting ceremony last

night oh really

I waltzed in

you are garbage you are canceled you are

sexist you are misogynist and you are

canceled

and I

am going to ratio you on Twitter

you bitch

don't you dare

be ableist

when I'm here

she broadcasted the game for 10 hours on

the first day

this game's cringe I'm not gonna lie

no

no sexism is not

funny

fat phobia is wrong

oh

bodies are beautiful

got it

get it

good

I just canceled this shit out of them

and why are you alone in cell

you are an in cell

reveal you

let me repeat that I was wrong to do

that hello Mrs I'm a feminist what are

you

I'm a feminist

oh hi my name is Rebecca oh really

Rebecca

um and Rebecca

what thoust they they missed

what do you mean I'm a woman

you

are

transphobic trash

just because

you look like a woman according to

patriarchy

doesn't mean you can assume your

gender

trash

let's continue

why are you sitting alone

oh I'm just a little shy

yo Rebellion ah

transphobic trash

you're just sitting alone because you

don't want to sit with your trans

student piers

transphobic trash

let us continue

oh hi

don't mean to interrupt your

conversation

tell me to get in between the both of

you but I was just wondering and I was a

little bit concerned

was wondering and I was a little bit

concerned

that first of all excuse me

let me get

let me get in here just for a second

I just wanted to say that I don't

appreciate this young chap

talking to you because he doesn't seem

very respectful of feminism

and I will have you now I'm a male

feminist and I'll tell him off for you

listen

women

ah

equal

and I'm a famous

you

cannot

talk to her

in that way

you better not

bring that in sales shit here

it's not even a woman it's literally a

man

what a mistake oh my bad

but still wait

give me a second guys give me a second

I made a mistake but you are both

in cells there is a Stark lack of women

period

oh hi

I'm a feminist

oh I don't mean to interrupt this

I don't mean to interrupt this

you can't even interrupt them what the

fuck

excuse me

excuse me

I just want to let you know that I'm a

feminist and this young lad

needs to stop with his Andrew Tate

pickup lines you are both trash

cisgender trash

[Music]

period

I'm gonna continue getting acquainted

with everyone

here in Hogwarts

my contribution to this school

will not go unnoticed

cisgender trash

every day

oh is this an inclusive couch

is this an inclusive couch

is excuse me is this an inclusive couch

let me tell you

that Hogwarts is getting some changes

you

are canceled

I just canceled them

excuse me

yes I am interrupting

yes I am gonna interrupt I am

Excuse me yes I will interrupt you

everyone has to pay attention to me now

Hogwarts is experiencing some changes

and you are not

welcome

she

is

non-binary

and she's exclusively attracted to other

non-binaries such as me

get your cisgender

patriarchical thank you Christopher clip

them and make them shorts into smaller

cluets I should but I I don't ever have

time thank you Chris you

have canceled and she's with me now

point

blank

period

horatioed for being a suspected Andrew

Tate fan

you you are racist

everyone has to get a piece of my mind I

can't spare anyone all right we have to

go one by one make sure everyone knows

the new rules because I'm starting new

rules in this school

bet now

it's ableist

to do that because there are people who

are sensitive to light and flickering so

stop stop it now

ableism is not

cool

canceled

you

look like

Hitler

all right is that everyone pretty sure

we got everyone did I call her

transphobic you're transphobic

no we have these people playing chess

now we have the window people trust me

move aside

this is ableist because some people are

blind and cannot see these fish

check

your

privilege

this guy's name is

ominous Omni liberal destiny

yo

how the fuck did you get in here

I had one

doubt mermaids find us that interesting

based on all the all the data when you

entered the common room I'm guessing

you're no one cares you want a debate

debate me ominous no you support Russia

you support Russia you're canceled I'm

canceled I'm the one who does the

canceling I'd much rather have a ride to

bring Cambodia to Hogwarts

I Can Only Imagine

well it's good to have you in Slytherin

thank you ominous I didn't mean to say

that I was pressing space

okay and I need to talk to two more

bitch

[Music]

not going to move there are you ableist

batphobic okay I didn't warn you

Checkmate I don't care I told you

no one needs to hear your trash boys

I am a fast woman of color and I want a

sandwich now give me a sandwich and a

donut or your back

foreign

the minute I started eating McDonald's

not the way I fly oh you don't eat

McDonald's do you you fat faux big bitch

how dare you I am canceling you as soon

as I am in control farewell nice meeting

you

his name is hairy asshole

Rebellion we are not done

you are canceled

bitch

now we're gonna Sebastian

mean the number one toxic transphobe

oh Sebastian you're reading what are you

reading mind comp

what the fuck are you reading Sebastian

tell me what you're reading

what are you reading

don't tell me you are reading a book

by has

not helpful you better let me see that

oh social cohesion and national identity

by Salat saw

interesting book I don't know we can

talk

hi Mike can I help you I am here

Paul part you're the new fifth year

I'm Sebastian sallow welcome to

Slytherin hello I am Sebastian the

racist I am openly racist in this school

I am openly misogynist and sexist also I

am the most hateful bigot of Hogwarts

and

well you were reading sailorths are so I

can't really cancel you it was Dreadful

yeah it's not that unreasonable to be

bigoted interesting when everyone's a

social imperialist how did you and fig

managed to escape it's all still a bit

of a blur to be honest

didn't mean to press oh a lot of it

self-settled

I'll get settled but you need to join me

in my plan because I've got a lot of

dynamite in my backpack why don't you

get back to your book nice

now it's time for

you shut up bitch

nobody fucking cares

anyway

it's time to do some internal monologue

I've infiltrated the HQ of this cursed

place now it looks like everyone loves

doing magic and all that all that stuff

magic and tricks and Wands and spells

I'll tell you what in it my plan for

Hogwarts is a bit different

I've got a bag full of dynamite and TNT

and I'm gonna place it on the roof of

this God forsaken building and

Dumbledore is gonna go flying Sky High

that's right

I've got guns dynamite TNT and knives in

my backpack

and these students here at Hogwarts

don't know what's coming for them

neither do the professors all that magic

jibber jabber I didn't give a goddamn

about any of that

I don't give a damn about any of that

I'm here for one reason and one reason

only

I know my mission

and we go cancel this group of students

who seem frolicking about unaware of the

Injustice trans people face Excuse me

yes yes sorry to interrupt yes yes

excuse me

you seem to be so happy and going about

chattering are you even aware are you

even aware of what fat people are going

through every day when they are not

allowed to eat McDonald's

yes I'm talking to you

trans

phobia

homophobia

and by phobia Erasure

by Erasure

think about it

stop just frolicking

black lives matter

you privileged

bitch

yo you are

racist

that ought to teach them

owls are an endangered species

and you are species

and lack vegan wisdom

you want vegan food I'll give you some

let me pull the dynamite out of my

backpack

lumos

yeah

yeah a lot of them up light them up

yeah light them up

light them up

excuse me both of you

excuse me both of you

oh you're twins that your twins in it

should have thought about that

before you decided to come to this

bigoted School

lighting them up

boom

[Laughter]

all right

what a game man what a game all right

guys we're gonna have to wrap it up here

this is that's enough

I mean one last internal monologue

these students have no idea

what's common for him

no idea at all

right game's so fun guys what a fun game

all right I don't know if I'll be

playing it tomorrow

um

frankly

it's kind of an impromptu kind of thing

can I do I have to save it right save

game

save it

yeah saved it and then I'm exiting

exiting the game yeah get me out of this

all right

all right guys see you later

see you guys later bye-bye

fun fun stream great stream good stream

beautiful stream

bye guys bye-bye