WAR ON CHAPO TRAP HOUSE [2021-10-15]

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these two weapons together the wig splitter and the cheek buster can literally slay be grow ragons

when combined

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this is going to happen sunday this is all getting clean all this shit is going to be gone then the week we're going to go to a halloween store we actually decorate we're going to decorate going to decorate

wre to decorate ok i promise i promise i promise ok i promise we only have one decoration right now

thank you dixon what is this made of real steel this is actually real ford steel actually a real sword wooden gri

it made of a wooden grip and ornamental

steel engraving

and yes this is actual real

the mask is steel

okay

if we're going to have a whole arsenal ca so this one this ones a bit excessive right this is only when we have really top level debtaons but i like this got understand i like this one the best because i like short swords because already got a big ick to understand and then another thing is that

i'm more like an a warrior who's in the heat of action i jump like i'm not the guy who's like you know fighting from long distances i'm the guy who jup right into the mouth of the dragon like that you know what i mean thank you s thank you s

i'm the guy who jumps right into the heat of the action and that's why i need a small agile light sword you know like i'm very much weow squarters you know like imagine me like ball like the dragon's mouth is wide open gouping right into it

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thiscause this is a high energy streamer according to the guy in the chet

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how many times i've heard stories of like kids in class that are drawing like fucking manga panels or some shit and like an art teacher sees it they're like that's not real art that's garbage that's trash like you need to work on stuff that's more appropriate like

the fuck why the fuck you think they're going to fucking school

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i have a sword and a scat

i allergy was there

i really have a sword

that's how fun i am

i'm like the fin uncle and he's the boring uncle

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that's literally the boring uncle that you dread seeing because all they do is horong you about your fuck and homework

i literally have a sword

and you're talking shit to me

you little ach

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we have a lot of ship planned and lined up for today we have a lot of ship planned and lined up

thank you es guys you know what i think of the song you know i think of the song

this is a snazzy song shut up thank you need not appreciate w's the story of the chapel trapos my debating anyone today yes

chapel trap house it basically goes like this right wh'chjus is getting started ok because we're going to tonight stream is going to be a rally it's going to be a roally against chapel ok so this is just the beginning ok

i need everyonever you know i'm still going to the baby what it or listen we haven't even started the stream we're still in the introduction of the introduction so to speak everybody needs to be

and and because this is i'm going to get charged up right i'm going to get charged up and then once i get charged up to a certain level so this is how the stream is going to start out let me actually explain it's the stream

is going to start out like this see it going to st this pretty soon this stream is going to turn in to this i am by the way i am the battle on i am aleder battle on if she was a man and a streamer i was sent from the sky you found me

in the scrapeyard and now i'm falking here to take on this sky palace where i san and we're goingbs on today yes we're going to talk about it on today i s all falking people at the top in the sky palace i'm going to b my way to the top i am

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ll with swords don't you cant you see me as a guy with a gutana don't you see me as the guy with the guzan like i just have that style about me and i just have that look about me where i'm just an exotic type of person you know i mean i have that exotic look about i have a gutan so this ha stream

go along we're going to this is going to be taken all right then then're going to upgrade how it's got interesting isn't it n's getting interesting isn't it not it's getting a bit heated

o hor din you pos in that photo

that's all

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then after the excitement wears off we're slowly transition into a cozy stream where we're going to watch some spooky next

spo that kind of spooky holloweens the right for chilling right and then maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe if you're lucky if you're lucky the last hour the last hour we might just have a chill mind crab stream for the last hour we might do min craft

if you're lucky gona be a nice halloween understand

so we have actually a lot of things to cover i don't or to start there's the

hasan stuff hasan content but tust me this is worth covering right it's worth covering and

thank you so much diogenes diogenes thank you so much

all right so

i want you guys

hobout this we're going to we're going to latina

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she left nevermind when to talk about chapel craft house and why they must be defeated by me personally by me specifically

did havevin cochlan join us on it ok you're here ok hold on actually i'm going to call lesina

this a on he misaid

where the flock is she

here she is

hello

hello

hello

ham up

why

what do you mean by

i looks like shit right now

you're not give me content

but oh my god kivill don

that

just late it looked like abst dog stit right now

okay

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what's up oh give me a secon give me sec

recapture discord

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i look like a shitt

oh you want me

so this is egit chat listen every time women say i look like shit they want you to say the contrary

so it will boost their ego and confidence

and every time they say disguise

you have to just say ah ok

no i don't contradict them

huh

you're not i'm not going to contradict

well

soims fine

i have to turn on my pc

what

i want my phon

ok what's your actual name because i can't keep calling you latina and i'll get cancelled as racist

no i'm not telling you my name

it what's your other nickname what's your other nickname besides lasina

and call me like wild or something even though it's like qraz oy wild

wild let me ask you question

when is the first

today you decided you have a really big crush on me

that's so fucking cb

i need to stop saying that shit yeah but you didn't answer the question

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i haven't decided yet

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so there was a day

no

that's the whole point of thef

the answer

alright you know i'm going to go ball though right is that okay

no

what

i don't think that's a good idea

no i have to i'm losing my hair

it doesn't look like you are

yeah i know because i'm hiding it

why the why are you going to like that's what beeats the purpose if you're going bald

you'rehding you're hiding your bald so you're going balld

yeah

that defeats the absolute purpose of it

ok are you going to critique

my haircut choices or are you going to answer the question

uuse i can't have you switching up on me once i go bald

and then you decide to drop out

if you want to go bold you should go bold

that's that

okay

um second question so when we're definitely not getting married that's like one hundred percent confirmed because

yeah because i heard what you said and i i'm sorry you can't raise my kids

that's so duck i'm sorry i don't want my kids to be

greys i don't want them to be dropped off in like

worried that your dad's not going to come back for them

yeah but you know what

you you want to raise a bunch of weaklings and i want to raise a bunch of warriors

that's not how it works

yeah that is exactly how it works

i don't i know i can't afford to raise all of these like

you know soft sensitive snowflake type of boise

that you're trying to raise

ok

and second of all

so why exactly

are you like so into me like what about me makes like

you keep dragging the shitt on if it's not like a thing

what do you mean

that's so embarrassing for you

why

because it's not that's not i know like what about me

specifically

i think it's got to be the baldness

but you haven't seen me bob

are you a vegan

yeah

what

why is that fad

yes that's bad what the funk

are you a vegan

goes

what do you mean card

i don't know

is it because you care about animals

yes and also it's like a better diet no it's not

yes it is no it's not

that is

i swear it's not

yes it is

you have to eat meat

no i don't

if you are going to be chilling with me you'll have to have a hamburger

no there's only one kind of meat that i'm willing to eat

and it's oka for the vegan diet

what of bog

no but you have to eat the other kind of meat too

no like you're not supposed to

what do you mean

like

like you like yeah whatever me me me whatever but like on a ve caan diet it is easier it's healthier

in what healthier house so i can grow

yes

cause that's what happens to men who don't eat meat

no

so you you want you want double ds on me what size do you wanting

listen so basically on a veacan diet you're cutting out like all the like

unnecessary shit about me that least unhealthy

don't you feel like shit not eating meat don't you feel so replenished and feel so good after eating meat

no

what i feel like shit hey i used to work at home

panera ride and they haved me doing a bunch of shit but they also like

i don't know they also had me eating like you know like or they had me like prepping all the meat and shit like that so that made my like stomach hurt and all of it

and just smelling it and stuff like that so i feel like shit like being near me like if i smell meat or whatever if it's like obviously like because i was prepping it

the smell of it was infused in my face so it was

five

it made my stomach wan a gag

so that's why you became gan

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no wait rotate your camera

no

yeah you're in the

you're in the fucking uh

por'chter mode

yeaw there you go

ok i saud i looked like i was in a toolshed

so you have no halloween decorations and wow your stream makes your room look way better than it actually is

it's a basement

so this is the actual truth of everything

when the lights turn of the cameras are off

you live in a swan

it's a basement this is just where the setup is like i'm trying to find my own place

you live in your parents basement

ya my we i'm with my mum

does she care of you dream

no she was like on one of my dreams before

really

yeah

like twice

damn

where do you live

um

what i say that like

i'm not asking for your address what fucking state do you live in

um

i'm mad of gascar

ok wow that's so cute isn't it

i don't like her

what

you don't like har work

i don't like how

the my phone camera looks it looks so stupid

like i look like a gum drop

i got this sweater today like i just came back from the mall but i still haven't decided if i like it yet

um

it's a sweater

like is it like good

what the and we do what do i look like your

best friend

you're supposed to go to the mall to dress to impress me you're not supposed to ask me

twenty five dollars

i don't know if i like it i think it's like tocchy

if you don't know

why you like it why would you wear it in front of me

because you fucking called me literally called me while i was trying it on

yeah and you didn't you could have had time to go prepare something that you're more certain and

what the fug bro i'm not here trying to impress you right now

no

you know what i thought that all of your child was going to roast the shit out of me and call me ungly

no listen that's not what we do

listen who wants no ok he my question who wants which is better looking than me

besides the s

besides it probably me

no ad the wet mail on which is better than me

heh i look like literally a pumpkin

can you stop

what was thatmino guy

why wear in pink on halloween

you really don't care about the holiday do you

your shirt makes you look like you're literally in a fucking barber shop getting your hair cut

but it looks like one of those like plastic bags that you are you are wait are you telling me to t on are you telling me to take off my shirt

i'm just telling you like that's what it looks like it looks like one of those garbage bags that they cut the hole in

and just like

put it on

so you're basically implying i should take off my shirt

i'm just saying that's what i want

thn get on

ok we're not

can you slow it down a little bit

was i being just weight like

thirty forty minutes i'll take it off

ok

oh i want to get to know you a little bit more

to

ok one

what guy on which is better than me besides a song

he how would you answer that first

what

this answer that but in like your perspective

answer what

like the other way around like what girl on twitch is better looking than me

w see it

i think like a lot of answers but i just want to i just want to hear you say it

you think i'll okay what do you think

i think

like i think there's a lot of girls that are like really attractive on twitch

so i'm not expecting you to sae me

wow

you are ambitious

i think poky main is really pretty and i think

i don't really watch a lot of female stream really i i don't watch anybody

i don't watch them either i just talk to them you know what i mean

yeah

did you watch my stdream last night

no

why would i last youtream big a shit

but if you do think

that's so fake

how was that fake

because you're supposed to be like a fan

i'm supposed to be a fan like i'm one of your chaters

ya no i'm not one of your chatters oka

i'm the guy behind the scenes i'm not the guy who's out in the open

you know like chatting in your chat all that kind of shit

you know you must got me confused for something else because that's below me

that is blow in fact

that's actually offensive and insulting

okay sorry

i think that's disrespectful to not show support for a girl that you're in love with

i'm not in love with you

amens

i'm still alive

testing you you know

ll have question what girl on twitch

is

better looking than me

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see i'm not going to answer that because

i asked you first and you didn't answer me

so and how it works you don't just

ask me questions after ive already asked you questions

so

you have to answer me first second of all

what are you doing

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it is it loud

why are you covering your ears well my ears are open

ok i got these earrings yesterday

what the fog

can your chat tell me if they like it

my chad hates it i speak for chad

they wish they would have gotten three instead of two

i want to get a third piercing

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so what do you think of open relationships

i think that they're literally cheating

saying like what the fuck is the point like if you're gona be in an open relationship just don't date

like a relationship is a

contract between two people

and that's what i like that's hoy i feel about poly amorous shit too and like triangular relationships like bro that's literally cheating in your face

ok and what do you think so let's say we're going on a drive right

and you're in the passenger seat i'm in the front seat

and you're hungry right you tell me you're hungry i'm hungry too

and we pull up to the drive through and i get us for mac chickens right

three for me one for you

and i give i hand you one miked chicken and you're going to say no because you're vegan

i'm going to say excuse the folk me like you shouldn't even know that but find out how discussed that's like ca i give you the best sandwich on earth

well if you're talking about mc chickens i know they're going to be like a dollar fifty

it's still the best tasting sandwich on earth

yeng

it really is yes

what are you being hollowing

you know what i'm going to do i'm going to be raz al goul and gang is khan

there's ahmaed conqueror

i'm probably gonna be like a cheebah or some shit

what

ya achito

something like that i don't know how boring

yh

why would you be a cheaah

cause i got this like one

so your basically what you're saying is

you're basically a furry

kind of

what

just like sirca

i'm just kidding obviously not if that's what makes if that's what qualifies then i guess that's what i um

i don't know i just bought this like one piece that it's like long in shit it's like a whole body suit so like if i have to take a piss i have to take the whole shit off which is crazy

but i'm going to like my friends probably throwing a halloween

costume party or whatever

so i'm probably just going to wear that

so you're one of those people who don't even appreciate halloween

and you even care that it's supposed to be a scary spooky holiday

and you just go to parties where people dresses like funny things like bananas and

and harley quinn and stuff and you you basically defill wen youn care about the ijustnest rely howow for me like this year it's like a good opportunity to just dress like

it's fun to dress up in she like that so i'm going to do like a dress up like every single day until like halloween on my street but then

i don't know i just don't agree with the concept of it

like i don't know with how it started like it's literally a satanic like

hot lakes you know day

but that's the only time of year when you're allowed to deal in the dark arts

and you're supposed supposed to explore dark scary things you want to haunt a houses

yeah like it it's it's one thing to be like scared which is fun

but it's another delay no i go next level s be knowledgeable on like

how halloween started you know like at least no ho summon no we were going to summon demons

yes were going

summon demons pentagram

all of that stuff

no and you're going to join me

that's fact

guess what is going to be sacrificed

you

no guess who

you're dead dog

i don't

don't have it aren't you vegan

don't you care about animals i don't fays shre about dogs

so

the person being sacrificed

their name rhymes with

the mild canteena

youver heard of them

no

so but don't you ever wonder like why there's so many dogs and cats going missing like all these like missing dogs and cats like posters

it's because there's like

people are like still practicing that satanic shit and they take the opportunity to every thse because they're less like

their last leg

have you ever been to an abandoned

exploration

now

while you're born

old are you at least like

oh an abandon exploration yeah i think i've been to like an abandoned asylum how are you agin

twenty five twenty two

twenty

you're twenty and you've never been to likeli an abandoned

hospital or asylum or anything no because there's like one in my area but my friend is the security guard there

how boring

yes

you don't

so you've never ever tried to summon ghosts or spirit or do anything scary in your life

you i'm not goinga summon a fucking ghost that so grows why not

because that's fog they follow you

so

so absol fucking willly not

know sometimes you know i work is haunted

what

ya my work is haunted

what do you what is your work

i work at like a braw and like underwear store

that's not

there's this ghost and we call her like felicia cause like she's been there for a long time

oh she a

y

um she has like a really hot presence

andn you send her to me

i don't know i don't really want to talk to her

sounds like you're just a coward

i went into okay so basically my friend like a couple like last year

she was closing on her s on her like by herself and there's nobody in the store because she closed she was sweeping the floor on the one side and then she said that there was um

there is a flake

fucking footsteps coming towards her she turned there's nobody there

and then my other friend a couple weeks ago she was like oh my god this place is haunted and i was like how and she said

oh you know like i went to the bathroom the l is then all listen let's sen know i just want to bring one more ghost in your life is that ok

which is like after we meet up and after we you know

spend time together

it will the ghost will be me be caause i'll ghost to you

that's so fux

that's the ar sh

cause like we're so necessary

why

by the mo you'll hear the howling of the wind at night

noa remind you when i just

disappeared from your life

all too bad

so sad

the only i feel like the only way that would happen like

is because be so like scared to come back to another wory out because ill just most a shit out of you every so ok in the roy house right who do you think we between me you

i think the only way that people would think you win is because your fanbase is so loyal

that they're just like hasbas hasbas like they're so are you denying onm base o really powerful are you denying bas thing

what

are denying a bat

i'm just saying like half the shit you said was not like valid

like with you for a reason what about what i said was invalid

i don't remember

okay

what's wrong ok so mes a question what is wrong with five minute dogging

i think you just got to explore a little bit more you can't watch it that's boring it's fun noen not for me

okay cool

that's great i mean whoever you know

is on the receiving end like

as long as itre's not boring for them then that's fine

really so you're saying five minute dogg is acceptable

like for that person

no your sing in general for everyone including you

no

so you're basically vegan

and yet hypocritically

you just want to draw out

and slaughter

another man's time

you're literally slaughtering my five minutes like what is it worth if it's just going to last five minutes

it's an intense energetic

passionate five minutes exactly why the fuck ca it be longer

well because if it's longer you're not going to appreciate it as much if it's in five minute purse you're going to be thinking about it like

all day until the next day

and it's like it'll keep you going on a cycle

he's going to keep wanting more and more and more

ok well i've got to get ready for my stream so hop your stream goes well what are you dressing up as

i don't know i'm probably going to be like little red riding hood or some shit

you know what you should dress up as

no

you know way actually know

you know what

i think i'm gonna dress up aus

oh my god i wasn't gonna do that with a fat

god damn it

what the fock

never again will i let that happen

never again will i let someone hang up on me

i should have done it earlier with a fax

who taught her that

who taught her how to do that you're not supposed to

teach them to r the rabbit of fok

the fock was that

i still took the w i just took the w i claiming victory because i was clearly going

to do it first and she just copied me still claiming i'm going to deleate the box i'm beleeving was getting deletd

the foten years

you guys we're going to go back to talking about chapel crap house when to go back to talking about chapel rap hoouse mo mission thank you so much for the five appreciate you

appreciate you mo'am damn

o

you can't fucking stream omegal what are you fucking crazy are you crazy and o'megal stream you're literally insane

you know here's here's something that should be that shouldt go on spoken right regarding chapel crape and all adjacent trends

aot min prat i'm going to explain to me to you guys the two thousand tens were about and it should have never started as a trend to begin with right so this is this what happened in the two thousand tens social media became a thing frum

elected and all of a sudden a bunch of nerds became empowered

the thoughts to the idea

that they are somehow cool

and that you know what guys you know i really grab chapel by the buck in balls and destroy them don't focus on their edgy you know i iranic humor man you're so funny feel ex yourse funny you focus on that shit focus on their actual serious take

because their actual serious takes amount to yeah i mean were democratic socialists and we want a badter were democratic ao see time for the environn buckt maslets let's take a look at these these chapel these chapel chaps

jesus

at the end of the day this bg democratic exagersm and s and students and pter ruling the world what i see himsters and still smllling the wady one stment i' smart i'm sad inspirt theoreticaltation and i' sd a brallian guy

they you mustpreciate you this is basically what we're dealing with in case you don't know this is what we're dealing with regularly regularly we're dealing with this shit right this anti working class professional managerial bringe

chapo man for real buck chapo and i confess something and i confess something to you guys the reason it's so difficult for me to roast them i'm going to confess something i have never listened to jacko

in my life thank you boss i've never listened to it in my life ok i'm going to just confess something right now i have never don't even know what the sound of this guy's voices i don't even know his voice sounds like ok i cod never listen to them in my life but here's a thing i've heard here's a the things i do know about

chapel there preing sch guy on twitter is a piece of shit buking schun bag ey fuking being they say i hate all the fans i hate ok san people they go ont sans fucking stream and

pup bshit there democratics now ins then they love the buck in d sa

and d s a loves them

and their ironic hipsters who are just

ironic in nemers and nothing in the world is serious only happo this song is as water song tastes like us

ok that's what we know about chapel right

now contrast that to to infraret now infraret's symbiology is the gorilla in the sun what is our symbol of gorillas and sons

let me i explain to me you guys you gy this is a high level stuff you're not going to get it but i want you to think about it right high level stuff you're not going to understand it you're not going to get it but i still want you to think about it ok it's high level stuff ok right now

let me explain to you the origin of mean culture on the internet the origin of mean culture the origin of irony means chapel and all these scum f beach stupid little beaches right so the internet used to be dominated by a bunch of

boards and forums and things like that where you ever was still rationalistic the internet was a rationalistic place where people had this idea that the privileged sight that which ideas will be conveyed is through just plain

open rational thought right something awful whatever yet like goals right just normal people who are just expressing themselves in a direct rational way right like if you had an idea the idea was the rational way you're explaining it things like that right

we have a checkmrk in the chad look buok is this ca fulls my followers but your partner how do you think that makes me feel o anyway as i was saying

as i was saying this is a good backscratcher we shit so

that was for the period of like the twenty tens

we're like a rational when people had rational debates

it was based on like the content of the rational explicit use of reasoning whatever right

latino still in my chat and you do have a check mark too how much followers do you have

who are you i thought you were a new streamer this is a lie i thought you're a new streamer and you're gatekeeping your videos i have to sup your videos to watch the when did you join me

doesn't say with the hell did you get one hundred thirty seven gay followers from where lips are public let's watch your clips

oh nver mind so where how can i benefit from this so i ok let's see i think we have a good arrangement going like i

am an extremely high quality beautiful maletremely soft after scarce high quality energetic alpha male just a perfect guy you can think of right and you have one hundred

seven thousand holers isn't that a deal i think that's a good deal i actually think that's a good deal

then we wen a day i don't people there see th next one i wind your sext one like tex robot nex so m jama i go sat me ramama ss ama cas di just but i wont ppll gots u i as i was saying

th again underselling yourself well we're going to clind the rks like we're going to start with latino and we're going to move on to some with two hundred k followers two hundred fifty three hundred k five hundred k one million eventually will be at the top

we're going to like bounce off of them we're going to bounce off of them one by one weill reach from queen to queen soi we reach the biggest queen of them all nancy hello the speaker of the house anyway

um talking about the origin of means yes okay

when's jimmy doore coming to twitch jackson hasn't talked to me about it he called the what what's the pickets charge

when's the collod dropping i don't know i have no idea

i have no idea on

oh mam

allright let's let's take it from the beginning right stk from the beginning so the early age of the internet right

was like something awful in those kind of forms right those were based on a rationalistic approach to information right let's say you got into an argument with someone the arguments can be based purely on the rational use of argumentation right everything' is going to be purely based on the open communicative discursive reason whatever right

now shift to around the time of the trump era right and it's actually happened before but i'm just speeding things up right now during the trump era something changed right and it's a shift from conceptual reason to aesthetics as the primary site of the conveyance of

information and truth and all that kind of stuff so trump for example he could go to the republican debates and athll rational people marco rubio and jef bush well i'm maarguing on the basis of nmally there in and trump could literally just be like right and hesus says that kind of shit and they lose so all

a sudden you have the birth of you know means and aes stetics this more kind of like ambiguus and partial and unconscious sphere being put into work through the use of like you know irony particularly in the form of irony and and means and all kind of stuff

so this had the nerds freaking out ok the nerds started to freak out and the way that nerds like matt christman and felix cope with this new reality asthetics overtaking the conceptual use of reason was by because was by treating it as an irony o it's the irony right everything's an

irony became the the metaphysical absolute and why because there's clearly a contradiction between our conscious intentions and views of the world and our sense of you know the world being insistent and and the reality right there's clearly

the world is clearly paradoxical and contradictory and that's why a stetics trialmph as the primary site of the conveyance of information not specifically aesthetics but means and irony and jokes and comedy specifically because if reality is inconsistent right or just not rationally whole

or not rational whatever nonetheless we can acknowledge that but nonetheless these means are still participating in the reality somehow gts can you fk and bear with me here can you bear with me you stupid empty headed

air headed stupid fox can you listen to what i'm trying to say ok lit what i'm trying to say it's very important ok we can acknowledge that reality is somehow contradictory inconsistent and that the conceptual and open use of reason is

not enough to give expression to the world and to our politics and to you know the trends of the world to the phenomenon to culture you get that part right you understand that you get that somehow the something awful style of forum posting where you're just you know pyping paragraphs and you know explaining yourself directly

by the merits of the use of reason or logic another example of this was um the the rationalistic

forum less wrong right less wrong was like these hyper logical hyperrational people who really wanted to like you know arrive at exhaust the capacities of human reason on in this new form of internet information communication whatever right so you get that right but the reason mean start to take off isn't just

to insist or argue that fact

like for example a mean isn't really rational right think about the mem the pepy frog think a pepy the fraug the mean right is that really rational is it really like convey an argument that can be distilled at the level of like conceptual reason so to speak no it's giving expression to something more unconscious and more

just indescribable's like you have to get it or you don't get it right yous twitter handle is by your logic mocking that's forarm style discurse yeah i known' i get it so so you get that right you get that part at least

ok now means start to take off around twenty fifteen twenty sixteen and oh my god lasino what are you doing you said you were going to prepare for your stream i to call you agains you know i don't want to see i don't want you to

see me when i'm smart ok i want to hide my power lod in front of you like i want you to think i'm stupid you know what i mean and that way i can like manipulate you wayasier because you won't you won't be able to like understand my power and yeah

anyway was i saying saying what the buckins chapel ok let'sena make me a promise right now make me a promise right now

you need to promise me and you will never ever ever find out what chapel is and as long as you don't know what chapel is you are pure in my eyes you have to promise me you will never find out who they are

anyway continuing right uh okay

was i saying ok so you get that right that the something awful type of communication information no longer is able to exhaust the reality right that think about the people who lost their minds about trump's election ts the nmb guy din't make any sense he's not a rational guy but nonetheless he's still won and he's still communicating something mean

meaningful right may not find it conceptually consistent or exx that rational at the level of like conceptual consistency or logical consistency but it's still somehow meaningful he still like saying things that communicate some kind of meaning on among his supporters and in front of the world at large right

now means started to take this form

of

disguising themselves

behind the pretense of irony ah it's just a joke right mim is just a joke right

it's just an ironic

jokes ust make you laugh

but

even if we move past the joke

memes start to have a history right memes start to actually give expression to our cultural and political and unconscious realities

that

in like an intelligible way like for example

the chad mean this's like the latest one right that chad in the virgin mean whatever the soyjack mean it's an ironic joke right but it's still saying something it's still actually saying something you what i'm saying

it's still some conveying something meaningful that's what i mean no from the perspective of a something awful rationalist all means are the exact same in the sense that they're an ironic joke that's making fun of the ultimate meaninglessness of the world right but when you look at it to the level of a mean they're actually

different they're different from each other right like from twenty fifteen twenty sixteen twenty sevneen twenty eighteen throug the past five years they're actually conveying like meaningful things that have a history and have a context and still give expression to something right

um

no

something interesting here is going on right we're seeing a shift from the kind of th you tact all taco we're seeing a shift from like the conceptual use of reason or logic as the primary sde of truth to some kind of language of the unconscious right on the internet now here come the greatest

coolocks of the twenty tents chapel cock house chapel bitch house chapel crap

house kolock crack house you understand now these people are trying to salvage this older nerdy you know something awful ah form of you know enacting a critical distance to reality

by adopting a permanent aesthetic of irony and the significance of the irony when it comes to chapel really just amounts to the fact that there in the knowo and every one else is stupid and not in the no that's the athetic right we're aware that everything is somehow you know

meaningless and no one else's we're smart everyone's dumb right the world is contradictory but we are somehow wholesome and in the know and knowledgeable and you know we're these we're big shit basically right

um

i haven't listened to them but i know they're exact aesthetic because i know

the people

who i know theyir twitters

and the people who follow them that's enough for me right

yeah it's similar to son thee like this whole thing of like hoogs and shuts these people are trying to like

enact some kind of like security distance away from this unconscious

loks of mean culture and stuff now contrast their aesthetic to mine i don't have an ironic distance i fully embrace not only do i fully embrace

i falking become the mean i embrace the mean i become stly the mean st it so that you guys can't even tell if i'm joking or if i'm serious most of the time and the readony can't tell if i'm joking or if i'm serious

it's because the messoge i'm trying to give you is that it doesn't even matter it's not meaningful whether i'm joking or whether i'm serious what's meaningful is the the unconscious idea or er thing i'm expressing when i talk about the mongols and all i kind of stop is it a mem or is it serious

it's not important if it's a mem or if it's serious what's important is the mem itself the mem itself is conveying something meaningful right think about our slogan beyond the visible spectrum right the reason it' is beyond the visible spectrum of light infrared means looking beyond the visible spectrum

it' is because

we somehow recognize that this sphere of like aesthetics and means a com that's enough right you'll have to try and discern what the like actual true meaning is behind it beyond the veil it's there so it's beyond the visible spectrum

it's like a some like visible spectrum of you know reality that you're going to arrive at that's going to ground the meaning of a mem it's beyond the visible spectrum of light okay

i want you to think about our symbolism and in't even choose these fucking emodes spontaneously the community chose the gerrillas and sons now why why did the community just stick with gouerrillas and sons think about the dualism of black and gol right light and dark

the gorilla is dark the sun is light

right

plea

the gorilla in the gorilla in sons represents

the fdian itd or the laconian unconscious whatever one you want to call it

b ties whatever

you did not

uh his metaphysical uh

et dionysian ecstasy or whatever right this kind of thrmre nitzschian kind of sphere that's just below the surface of the conscious use of reason and rationality right and then the sun is this symbol of this kind of like you know this rationalistic good so that gourillas and sons is actually the unity of opposites

s and sons basically means that we're going to unite heaven and earth

we're going to unite the head with the body we're going to just like marx wanted to unite philosophy with

the proletariat

right with material reality

that's what gorillas and sons mean

right

unlike fuck and chapel cook hoouse

these little bitches right

b

have no sense of eithing a gorilla or the sun but try to meander in between in the form of irony where on the one hand they will never fully assume

a sense of like

taking them taking anything seriously and on the other hand the'll never go full mean mode right the'll just stay in between like this little cock beach space in between meanwhile think about an interesting paradox you notice from watching me and watching infraret especially when you look at our infrared vision videos on the one hand i'm an extremely serious guy in the sense like i don't really take this serious

and authentically do believe in this the sense of authenticity and sincerity which is there about the fact that i do believe in infrared i do believe in this is not a joke to me believe in this but on the other hand right andan extremely un serious in the sense that fully embrace means and fully embrace the inconsistencies and

contradictions within reality oftentimes in the form of comedy right it's not really a comedy we're laughing at the world we're laughing at ourselves too we're laughing at everything we're just laughing in general it's almost like but ti is kind of like you know laughter at being itself right laughter at the world after it a

everything right so you have to understand why infrared is the future and chapel was the past from a historical perspective right we are the next stage of internet culture the twenty twentyes has no falking place for these little couck beach millennial walking irony p

pussies becauses not that is the people are just bad when it comes to aesthetics and means and are just not that funny or charming whatever they're also not smart theoretically speaking they lack any semblance of a grasp of any of the things they're talking about and then politically speaking they're fucking bankrupt recause they emerge out of a burnie era they emerge in era

where they're meandering in between unable to like and the reason why they're meandering in between these two kind of like opposites

it's because during the burni year with the bernie pros they found themselves in a position where on the one hand they can't fully repudiate to the old order

that trump was overthrowing

because you know they're presupposing it b on the other hand they have to ax a critical distance toward it because of the way the media was going after brini right the media and the establishment is going after bernie but on the other hand they're coming from the perspective of the establishment in the media and the universities and all this kind of shit right it's like they have a critical distance toward it

but this critical distance is only to like safeguard it in a way like they became the ultimate conformists and the ultimate protectors eological vanguard protectors of the status quo because there very critical distance the status quo and to the establishment is exactly what sanctifies it and we legitimizes it

allows all of its internal contradictions all of its flaws and all of its inherent inconsistencyes basically be ameliorated in the form of chapel traphouse irony aesthetic right instead of actually developing imminently these contradictions in the form of the political destruction

of the establishment and rebirth and so on and so on this kind of dialectic it's rea channels into this fucking irony poison chapel bullshit right

' i re not tell you this isn't to convince you not to like chapel i'm letting all in on a little secret me i'm letting win on a little secret comm here com here comm herere commericre me letting win on a little secret right a little secret chapel was fucking obsolete if you have stocks in chapel pull the fuck out of those stocks these guys are not going to be around in five years

in five years of you know chapel would say too i would say one if i was feeling balsy which is the play say five five years mio chapel promise you i promise you there's not i promise you there's not like their time has come their time is cae is

ly speaking their times come garbage ape is a bitch whever garbage ape is i think he's a chapel gar guy right garbage ape on twitter you are a fucking bitch i'm declaring war on you and i might ratio you very soon little bitch garbage a

fuk garbage o we actually are going to we're going to stay on on the cha

a little bit

i never i want youuus understand something being ironic that way has always been ut it is the twenty ten student's obviously the twenty tens look let me tell you guys something

i have i never in my ow will talking life i've been in this for ten years this will thing for ten years ok i'll never fell into the vortex into the temptation and into the aesthetic of a chapel irony insll i've never

ever ever fallen into that that little aesthetic were i'm an iranic hits there and that how many of you the word i have never ever ever ever listen to these podcasts i've never listened to any of the podcast the only podcast i listen to is conp bt ed b and logo

o ka i have never ever listened

the chapel

uh cometown

red skare

and wh are the other ones

i've never listened to any of those i ha i had never

ever ever fallen into that ever

as a matter of fact i was like a falking skeptical like conservative of the old form of the internet i was

i'm fuking mats ady mat's fucking daddy you understand thank you circ appreciate you that's a lot of viewers started out one one hundred percent i was never a follower of these

people chapel anything like that i was the type of person they were following i was their daddy chapel trapposs i was their daddy you understand

d stcreaming for another ten hours

when manic yeah come down nick mullen lady shook her at all those fucking people right

all those people we will not yeh come down is fringe talking red scares fringes f you know what whats the whole thing about red scare no i used to say i kind of like dasha because she's she's a little cute and she's you know i could you know she's she's got a style but

i've never listen to that right i don't know what they sound like and when i learned where their loyalties lie on the internet i started to hate thatm when i learned what tribe they're a part of like in terms of like what faction of the internet they're on and who their friends are on it should i started to hate them right

thank you do a sav appreciate you behaate you man thel peter tl spear whatever the hell that is yeah that's shit whatever the fuck that is i don't even know what the fuk that is right

comedians yeah

comedians right guys i want to understand this is where a song gets all of his views from is this guy son gets all of his takes all of his views all of his ideas all of his anything all of his aesthetic all of his inspiration every fking thing that you think is

like a hassan thing comes from people like this ok what you find funny look i'm trying to tell you i was never like you all i was never a chapel listener or some kind of fuck and follower i'm an ancient leader you understand i'm an ancient

leader on the fuckt internet i have my owning army i'm a falcon on g w lord of the internet

these people were all my fuck and followers this guy was my follower this guy was reading me understand

this guy didn't ask permission from me

this to go ahead and do all his dumb shit i never approved of it i'm like a disapproving father to this guy that you n understand where i'm coming from with this i'm like a disapproving i never ever signed on for this shit but this chapel trapout big shit i've never ever signed on to that i never signed on

and now i'm here to exact

what's ow y have your fun chapp o traphouse now i'm here i sha know babin to exact what is owed

you had your fun chapel yeah had your fun the two thousand tens are over now and it's the twenty tens your puck in time has come as a mem as a phenomenal as a potcast as anything your times comne not i'm here wing to said now it's my time now it's my time

you understand we're not doing podcasts anymore the only podcast worth anything is combat and logos

bot and logo are not spectacles so you listen to them because they're actually giving you information that matters why would you listen to chapel when they're what theyre telling jokes and being a spectacle why nn f would you listen to them since listen to combot whre you and edburg will you actually find me

potatoes substance you don't have this meandering bluffing where it's like we're going to tell t joks and then i met chrisman and i'm going to get serious about marx's theory know anything about marxs theory right you get wor both worts you get the worst comedy and the worst theory if you want the best theory watch cont bot and if you want the best spectacle in the best

comedy watch which streamers like me where i'll dance around and falck and will have fun but both extremes don't buck and choose the worst of both worlds to the best of both worlds you know i never respected chapel viewers i was always the type of person i was like i was a snob basic i was like look if you want to get serious read

fucking books ok don't be the pseudo intellectual look this is my issue guys let me like any chapel viewers in the chat any chapel viewers in the chat someoning to break it down to you in a way you're going to understand the thing i would tell chapel viewers in the past is basically read books you don't need to listen to these people just read right

wy tell mes has hats i'm on man i want to be human too i don't you know i want to have a sense of like you know humor and i want to i want my you know unconscious to be played with and i want this kind of you know like casual cool cultural trend and i want to feel like i'm part of like

you know like it's something unconscious and pathological it's not based on theory it's based on like you know it's based on like i want i'm basically it's like this i'm a nerd has and i want to listen to people who are going to teach me how to be cool i want to style i want to the static right ok i understand that ok i understand it but how come when you have a stream

like me who takes full advantage of this pathological sphere of comedy aesthetics and style and setting an example and just

being a rong gorilla human being these same fking words come and mock me

they come and mock me and make fun of me because i'm not sophisticated enough and i'm a gorilla and i'm not smart enough you fuking pitch i'm fuking pain

i am both

the muscle and the fucking brains the extreme of both

how'm the book guy

and then i became this guy right on stream i became a gourilla ok you weak you're weak pans you're a weak ap you're just like me except you're less charming you're less handsome you're less good looking you're less charismatic you're less appealing you're

less aggressive and you're less able to speak the language of the unconscious to your audience you're less able to this tap into that six sense where you can't rellly explain it rationally but you just get it right youre lially doing that with your fucking chapel traphuse because you're not sophisticated when it comes to theory

and you're not particularly relatable as human beings you know the only time i listened to chapol traphouse was in twenty sixteen i didn't listen to them but i listened to you tube clips of them of their voice

and there was an article

called

welcome to the dirt bag left

welcome to the dirt bag left these are the new dirt bag leftists we are the new dirt bag leftists

i said wow so i'm thinking here like truckers and construction workers and they're going to sound like you know they're going to sound like rugged working class americans and i thought i always assume they're going to be like italians from the east coast like yeah i am ouk about that dum cup democrat shit does bucket liberals i thought they're going to sound like jimmy dore

something right i thought they were going to sound like these working class people so i looked on you tube to hear the oice and this is what i hear one of the interesting things about the democrats and they were fuckings and they were falking nerds they were frigid wmd on the relatable nerds reltable only to fellow nerds

ds trying to find someone relatable you fucking nerdch trying to find a politically correct outlet to be normal i don't just want to be a stiff nerd ok i'll have you know that i'm also a casual hipster who's coo i'm a

clul chapel guy we know cruel is bridge

wel peopleli in real life the shit out of you you no covery you the little ner school but i have to because i'm too smart but you're not smart either that's the thing you're not theoretically sophisticated or smart

either

they're just a falking stupid bitch

you're stupid soy bitch

and you created this little insular falcking community of fellow cloks

where you can cope with each other oh oh wait i wish i had a pair of glasses oh wait 're in the n too about chapow ay lads chapow and you're trying to make it a thing and it's not a thing to the majority of falkin americans it's not a thing you're falkin nerd you're falkin nerd you're no different than a f

unsons and dragons player except uns and dragons it's probably fun different than some friends community of furries or some shitw i'm in the now that champ o are you in the now are you in and now bak champ out i'm in the now i'm in the now you get youre the only ones who are in the knowo actually only you are it's not like this

is like a thing that spreads to non irony poisoned non mark soid nerds you're balking left wing nerdd youre literally one percent of your fucking generation listening to this shit and you're trying to act you't ned me ender act like al on the leent hand

we're so relatedble unlike those stiffy academics but we're also and then when you find a groul like me they gos is ridiculous he's a barbarian he's a savage he's ridiculous he's so dumb he's a caveman has is a caveman has is a caveman

i'm a cavemn not better than you in both ways in heaven i'm better than you but my brains than you but also here on earth i'm better than you i how to speak to the human unconscious and the human instinct be a relitable raw human being you you'll ever be able to

you smiling beach

man christmn mant chriinsmn im mat christman i mat chrismn let me you' want to see you want to hear the voice you want to hear their voice let me sell you the foking voice let me show you what we're talking about let me show you what we're falking talking about stalin was the loser

here we go we're starting it out he's calling s hes title it stalin was a loser

here we go

who cares

papaley

stalin was a fuckin coward

a bitch and a loser

and that's what matters

stalin

did

an incredible thing in building the soviet union

if you want to give him credit for it which is of course stupid in the first

because that another reason all this discourse is ridiculous

there is no

the power does not reside in the person that way you're actually doing like mysticism to

cgy donated five dollars

what the efth

is this inferred the most sexy mother fair on the planet

s didn't recognize you with that fresh sauscy spicy haircut

how are you going to crack tease us with that fresh cut in thick full of beer

dad damn you are daddy

i love you

thank you o we appreciate the finen thank you so much

this is what people look up to and watch

this is who people are watching and looking up to

and this is with the following

this is him

this is the guy

and his

you his

he's speaking the name of sallin

he speaking the name of stalin

bits

disgusting

swamp creature

the people follow

he's speaking he's uttering the word stalin in his mouth

yet a la in a just world

wy yet alllah in a just world

that would not go

that would not fly

we yet all in a just world the name of stalin would never ever find itself uttered in the mouth

of this filthy ugly swamp creature

debuw one dude with the entire

uh like

the agency of the soviet project that's stupid

he built this thing him and

him in the system that he presided over created this formation

this thing that was not capitalist

that was developmental without but profit at the heart of

now it was

as capitalism had been

insanely bloody in its development

ah my god if only they elected a on c and then they would have avoided that catastrophe of modern industry if only they had elected a on c

go on not doors and vote for you guys it's our only hope

to avoid that

that's what stalin should have done

the never knocked on doors and told people to vote for bny and the squad and al c

you're falcking cock

who the fock are you to talk about anything

he look at his condescending fucking voice extremely bloody like he's like overseeing it and he's the overseer who's going to judge

the moral significance of everything

like he's an ultimate moral agent

and he's going to go ahead and be like

i do not approve of this i am a hipster living in brooklyn i do not approve of stalin you no no no stalin i do not approve it i do not approve this soviet stop every one has to stop what they're doing stop what they're doing and ask matt what he thinks stop what you're doing every one stop right now i am a brooklyn hipster you

not consult me and listen to me before you say anything and do anything

park in pache

had wrung blood from stones had turned

peasants into mulch

because that's what you do

wait till people listen to this falking guy

you know guys sometimes i feel self conscious and i'm like

do i just sound like a dumb fuck all the time

do i just sound like so

you know

simplistic and stuff and this is just literally a homeless guy on his fucking camera

talking cracked nonsense

we thererere peasants and some mos

yeah ma that's what happens man he tak there's no like rigor or like any keen sense of like

historical accuracy or understanding the complexity or actually understanding what specifically happened

you just have this like fucking homeless guy just sitting around thank you so much fred will for the five thank you much for the five man appreciate you you go this fucking homeless

crackeed

thitning around on camera but he's just repeating fuckin tropes he saw on the fuckin history channel

and we're supposed to accept this is this like a rigorous critical examination

of soviet history or isn't aguis us playing off the tropes we've all learned in school that are in our head

that we're disposed to uncritically accept

and not examined from another angle whatsoever

and he makes two hundred k a month so let me get this straight

chapel leftist leftist to love chapel

sins at me

we're making this amount of money

which this is like three thousand

right this is about three thousand

if i'm correct

this is about three k or maybe three point five k

i don't know

a month

this bucking guy

makes two

hundred thousand a month

two hundred thousand

void born donate and that's ok

i finally understand why you hate this guy

i never understood hopo trap a house

the appeal

ore the hype around them and i understand it even less now

talking shit on joseph stalin is pretty absurd and ridiculous

yeah it's pretty fucking pathetic

especially pathetic

thank you for the five

and he gets two hundred k months to save this dumb shit

that is what that's what progress in civilization is

it is pulling people away from the lamd

soound deep

that's why he had to te guys know these guys said they cheered up when they watched avatar

the were again man i watched avatar and they teared ut so i heard onup twitter

they said

that they watched avatar and they teared up

because they thought it was so beautiful

it's falling

resources away from the land it is reducing

ah

the new resources from the land

need for

h

reducing mule the be say basically

in the countryside

so that

consumption can happen in the cities

what the fuck are you talking about you dumb folk

you're talking about a very specific situation

in the soviet union because of the sizers crisis

where

people in the cities were not getting enough food

because there is a price there is a divergence of the price of grain

from the price of industrial equipment ens

the incentivizing peasants to industrialize

this is no way we could a foken video on the origin of socialism

the issue isn't

beeting people in the cities and that's why a fucking happens

ok

the reason why the separation

presdent's original means of production happens actually

s because of be self interested

and anti social interests of capitalists

not fulfilling some social aim of feeding the cities

you don't know the fuck you're talking about you dumb folk

i i this is what a smart guy looks like this guys smart

it's kiny of smart

the schedu rely smart

how about you dumb stupid pch matchristman stupid fuckch stupid bitch fuck

have you ever considered the fact

that soviet collectivisation was actually necessary

in order to industrialize the soviet union

and introduce modern industry and machinery

some i con produce things like tax

and prepare for an invasion by a country like

i don't know charmany

you don't work

you thought of that that matt youver thought that

maybe it was about also

giving people electricity and sewage

systems and running water

things you take for granted you fuck and slob and your fucking apartment taking for granted with your fucking a a c here and you just take all the shit for granted and you spit on the name of stalin and the soviet union for working to give their people

a fraction of what you fuck and take for granted

you known people in those preasidents

didn't have shit mat didn't have a falking godban thing they weren't literate they weren't educated they didn't have electricity they didn't have running water they didn't have any of the things you take for granted the didn't have heat gas heating

they didn't have

they didn't have culture

in the sense of like

literature and access to libraries and fucking theaters

and you know things like that things you take for granted they didn't have the minimum of aculturation with modern culture

modern science none of that they had none of that

but stalin is a loser right

he's the loser and guys stalin's a loser and this guy's a winner

this guy's a winner

stalins the loser and this guy's the winner right

this is what the winther looks like

this is what a winnter looks like

look at his winer face

look at the face of a winner

look at the face of this winner

he's winning isn't he

this what a real winnerd looks like

let's compare it to stalin

let's compare it to stalin

see who the loser is

see who the real loser is

let's see who the real loser is

so according to math

according to good old mat

according to good old mat

this guy's the loser right and this is the winner this is what a winner looks like

an arrogant smug

pach sses a hard working leader of the people

who spends his days tiressly working for his country for his people and for the working class of the world

and this is the winner an arrogant fuckin pussy

spouting nonsense on camera

daring daring to utter the name of stalin in their mouth

and that is where you build

state you build capital

you build an economy you build state capacity you build something that can compete

on the westphalian stage

you're literally a dump

what

you are fucking assuming that modernization

happened as the result

of a focking

intentional state policy

that's not how it happened historically you dumb fuck

it didn't proceed as a policy by the central state initiative

that's what happened under socialism

nomss

of of state competition

that emerged in europe in the eighteenth six seventeenth century

and why was the state competition what was the meaning of that state competition you answer any of these questions

except without alluding to fucking other things

which is the context for all the developments of capitalism and soviet of communism and everything else

no it's not

it's literally fucky not

capitalism perceives that

capitalism has its origins

at the very very least in the fourteen dreds

maybe i'll stretch and say fifteen hundreds

you ever heard of early modernity you dumas

the westphalian stuff happened after

that's not the origin of capitalism

that's not the fuck and origin of capitalism

america managed to industrialize without killing the coolox

there were no pulocks in america a

b

america industrialized

because again it took advantage of capital differentials and investments

from countries like britain

who used their surplices

of capital

to industrialize america

it's all about imbalances of the concentration of capital

is what leads to countries industrializing peacefully

america didn't industrialize until la

a hundred years after its founding

and the reason for that

was because

it had to happen after the english industrialization

that is that is that the train that gave birth to everything

is that competition

what

the fuck are you talking about

and so communism did what

capitalism did it killed a lot of peasants

then then endna communiss came and killed peasants

for capitalism

and it effectively distributed resources enough

to leap frog

historical development stages

far faster than capitalism would have allowed for

because capitalism

parcels out that violence

it parcels out that violence

but in appetime the blue people w

man i't want to stop the violence looking at the skylve

thank you skinny

i just want to stop the violence i mat

mat

capitalist industrialization

was not happing at a slow pace

it was

lidy it would it hit a fucking limit in russia

that couldn't even be surprissed

under the czars

thezar state

it's not that it was going to take slower it's to hit a fucking ceiling

and parceling out that violence was harder for the soviets because their empire

was a multi i you mean buck and parceling it out you dumss

big empire

their empire was

relatively homogenous as opposed to the empires of europe which were racially divided

this is just not true

what the fock are you talking about

the soviet union was racially

homogeneous

in what

fuck and world

was a state

where forty percent of the population

are mflims

homogeneous

the it's the european nation states that were homogeneous ethnically

the soviet union was multi ethnic

so you could have

safe cozy

social de why di he talk like that

prsses

in the heartland

and brutal extraction at the edges

couldn't do that the soviet union everybody is a slap basically

two hundred thousand a month

two hundred thousand a month

that's how much you give to this guy

two hundred thousand a month

two hundred thousand dollars a month

certainly everybody where there's any food is a slop

and so you got

he's literally mouthing off

talking out of his fuck and ass

he's done no research to confirm this he's just assuming it's true because it makes sense that it would be true according to him

and let's see the comments for this video

twenty six likes

by the way

thatt to do it to your own people

which makes your system

poisonous

in the in world memory in a way that the european imperial powers aren't

because of that racial difference

sleep

they get two hundred a month for sitting on the establishment

wait wait

chapel traphouse shits on the establishment chapel al c traphouse chapel vaccine mandate traphuse chapel

mainstream media at all costs traphouse chapel vote for biden traphouse

chapel traphuse

chapel d s a trap house

that chapel trap house

is against the establishment

chiting on the establishment

which one

which one

which one

they did what the capitalism did much faster

to their own people

and they foth we need a church do we need a purge of chapel listeners in our community

do we need a porch

we might need a perch

we might need a purge

the first thing we're going to do

first of all there's someone on twitter needs to be fucking block

okay

i don't know who the fuck this person is

i don't know who the fuck this person is i'm getting nonstop notification

wio fuck is this person

who is this spoking person

i'm getting non stop notifications from them

who is this person

here

here

wh the fuck are you

oh they have ok let me help this person out they have no idea what i mean

some going to help them

there you go

hep

ofh

an existential attack by this monstrous

national capitalist mutant

in the form of the the nazi states

it was going to solve the problem of cap yea i heard about what happened in lebanon yesterday

but't listen

and culture under capital i'm done listening to this fuck and cock

map

richman

i'm metk christman guy mak christmen

oh my god

we're going to get into the hassan stuff now

i'm done with fluck and matt diitchman

i'm done for a dealing with matt bitchmon

we're going to get into that sun stuff

so

add some context

this is actually going to be pretty dark

odd i'm not making any allegations

it's just really dark

um

and i want you guys i don't usually do trigger warnings or anything that but like

this is kind of dark stuff so make of that which you will

um

this has not been receiving a lot of attention

ok

so

brace yourselves

you know we're goinga talk about hassan

uh and far be it from me to be like a guy who like

takes joy in cancelling people but

i think this deserves attention

right it deserves attention

m

and it's not getting any

ok

and before you jump to conclusions

ah why don't you hear me out

ok

so first of i want you to look at this clip

someone found on twitter

figured out how a sund blows his millions

w ever had an escort no shame alway sx wor his real work

i've had sex with

not even escorts but also like

straight i've gone to a brothel artemist in berlin

and had sex with

the workers there yes

i don't hide it i don't give a shit

why would i

hey i love how he calls

them workers

he calls them workers

you ever notice that

he calls them workers heyet sex with the workers

now if you ended it there

it's still disgusting it's disgusting how a person just

publicly says this

let alone does it in private but just

brag about it and talks about

workers people who are prostituted

many of whom from countries like eastern europe

and are being prostituted out of economic desperation

it's fucking disgusting

right

for someone to just say this

but they call it sex work that's the new word

sex work

there's no such thing as sex work

i'm a fucking grandmster of marxism

of marxist theory

i challenge

any froking so

proclaimed marxies

the debate me about weather

there could be such a thing as sex work

and whether this produces value and whether this is a form of labor

in the marxist sense of the word

as they marxist

i remember i'm the grand master of marxism on the fucking internet if you see a guy who's running around my age

and they're showing their face

i know more about marxism than

let's put it that way right

any it

whatever that mets whatever that means to you

i'm telling you

according to marxism

there's no such thing as sex work

it's not a form of proletarian labor

it doesn't produce any value

it is not work in the sense of marxist work

it's called prostitution by the way

you don't need maxism to know that either you don't need maxism by the way

to know that it's a form of whitewashing of prostitution

hope you guys don't plan on having daughters

in this wok politically correct country

s when your daughter's young

some people say

what do you want to be when you grow up i want to be an astronit

i want to be an engineer i want to be a doctor and ss streut that soon they're going to start asking the kids

oh would you like to be a sex worker when you grow up

but it's a normal job right it's just like any other job so why not

it's just like any other job

and just in the case people i'm not even picking on them in general i'm sick of people perverting marxism

l for example

i'm not a fuckin worker

this not work

this is not labor in any meaningful marxist sense this is not labor this is not producing value in the marxist economic sense

now is it producing value in the sense of like people find value in it yeah sure

clearly

but

in the markest sense of the word i'm not a falckin worker

i'm not a fucking proletarian

doing this shit

so you'd think it just ends there right and it's just like that's the extent of it then

that's as bad as it gets

you think that's it right

no

this is really what i wanted to draw attention to

and just put out there to discuss

so he mentioned a place called artemis

and he talked about how he slept with the workers there

the workers

we actually altemist has made the news before

and

here' is the news

it turns out the brothel and it is the brothel hassan went to

so we could have sex with the quo unquote workers

was raided in twenty sixteen

for human trafficking

on april fourteenth two thousand and sixteen ars was raided by nine hundred police and customs officers investigating human trafficking and taxvasion

the police had obtained information

that members

voidboarn donated ten dollars

the purposeful whoewashing of prostitution in america and the west in general has had some pretty dire consequences

i know damn well for the fact that being a construction worker or a while mart cashier is nothing like being a prostitute

thank you so much boydburn for the tent appreciate you

anyway

they obtained information that members of the hell's angels forced some women to work in artemis

one of these women had talked to police about her abusive pimp

a former professional football goalie

who would be convicted of trafficking coercion and extortion

and sentenced to seven years in prison

in october twenty seveenteen

the tax evasion cross

charges against artemist

were based on the allegation that the prostitutes working there were fraudulent

ightly crscified

as independent contractors

rather than employees

just to be clear is there an american artemist because i'm this is the same one assans talking about right

this is the same one

no this is yeah this is the german one in berlin ok we're clear on that

we're absolutely clear on that

there's a high probability

that these so called workers

we're being forced against their will

and that people in brothels i need every one pier a so hassan's a guy is going to teach you that sex work is cool guys every sex work is fine sex work is cool

yeah sex workers read so it's all fine man is it is the workers is iss empowering it's feminists

am i to be a streamer who tells you

if you visit a brothel

or if you try to find sex workers

there is no way for you to guarantee that they're doing it voluntarily by choice

let me just tell you something

if it's not

bike tooics

and

ninety percent of the time globally

it's not my choice

by the way

the overrunlming majority of prostitutes do not do this work by choice

and the overwhelmed majority of prostitutes around the world

do it out of economic desperation

and would choose any other job

they could

if it was available to them

they did studies on this by the way let me show you

so this is an nanoric model

so this is in the nordic countries right

this is in the nordic country oh this is in the uk

citizens for the united kingdom alone

and this is assuming that this study

has like the highest

like this study covers it all and this study's like really checking for like manipulations or anything by these pimps

this is in the united kingdom a first world country we're not even talking about the global sex trade

and prostitution globally we're talking about the united kingdom

ok

and the united kingdom

thirty three percent of prostitutes were looked after children

fifty percent started before they were eighteen

fifty percent were homeless

fifty percent were coerced

and seventy two percent were abused as children

that's for the u k alone

that's for the u k alone

okay

let'us continue

field the leak between prostitution and sex trafficking

field research in nine countries

the vast majority

of women in comminationes of no images

the vast majority of women in prostitution don't want to be there

you seek it out or choose it

and most are desperate to leave it a two thousand three study

first publish in the scientific

journal of trauma practice found that eighty nine percent of women

in prostitution want to escape

and children are also trapped in prostitution

field research in nine countries found that sixty to seventy five percent of women in prostitution were raped

seventy to ninety five per cent were assaulted

sixty eight percent

met the criteria for post traumatic stress disorder

there's so much research

and study on this matter

and this i think this is just in america

the worldwide statistics are insane

it's insane

ok these ad blockers and shit hold on

global estimates of modern slavery

this pediup is taking too long

forty two million prossro the world here's where they live

eighty percent are female

three quarters are between thirteen and twenty five

and we don't even know the half of it guys this is all

i have to find the study

what

the one that talks about globally right

but

unless you have it in fact checking put it in fact checking because i'm looking for it right now

i think you know the one i'm talking about if you know what i'm talking about

but here's the point i want to make

here's the point i want to make

a son's going to give you the message that this is ok and that sex worre is giving you this fairy land

lie about the reality of prostitution and the reason he's getting away with this lie is because many privileged women

who live in the first world and come from upper middle class backgrounds and actually do choose to make this their quirky profession

don't do exist

you know hassan probably knows those people too

but they're giving you a false idea about what's going on on the ground

for the vast majority of

people trapped in prostitution

not only around the world but in america

they're giving you a false idealized completely fake synthetic made up view of the actual concrete co reality of prostitution

if you visit a prostitute

theres a very high chance

that you are effectively raping someone

if they are there

being coerced

or being kept against their will

or being violently bullied into it

or living in desperation i would even argue

you're not having consensual sex with someone and based on some transaction you are a rapist

you're a fouging rapist

and i bet if it gets discovered

if the truth comes out and they are able to escape

you will be met with the full force of the law as a rapist

and you would fuking deserve it you mother fucker

i will never have a community that harnors people like hassan

if i find out anyone in my community goes and visits brothels

you're fucking bands for life

we don't do that here

we don't do that here

you could have

you can have all the views on sex you want

when it comes to

consensual sex between adults

right

we won't do this

infrared men

bt

participated in human trafficking

the men of infrared do not

participate in the global sex trade

the men of infrared do not participate in the global sex trap thank you kill joy for the five

thank you for the kill joy for the five

the men of infrared

do not buy sex

period

the men of infrared

do not buy sex

there are no hassans in our community

we will never have a hassan in our community

now let me show you

some quotes by real life marxist to back this up

because there's a lot of american

so called marxists going around and spreading the idea that communism and marxism is pro prostitution

well let's look what the authorities have had to say

let's look at

lenond's companion

roop skeire

he was a very prominent authority within the bolshevik party

a very powerful voice and figure within the party

okay

let's see what she had to say

booz professors are not ashamed to declare in print

that prostitutes are not slaves

that they voluntarily chose this road

this is disgusting hypocrisy

which claims that nothing prevents a worker

from leaving a factory

where it is impossible to breathe from dust

poisonous fumes

and the heat

he voluntarily stays to work on it

voluntarily works sixteen to eighteen hours so what she's saying is

these boozrop professors were obtly saying oh it's their choice to be prostitutes they're not enslaved

say they're just as bad as the ones who are apologizing for these horrific work conditions where workers are breathing in dust poisonous fumes heat

working sixteen to eighteen hours and it's the same thing

these are our authorities by the way

right and he's an american marxist

a trying to lie to us and gaslight us ot what's always been the bottom line

we the communist tradition with the capital sea by the way

if any of you are in the communist part of u s a

you must remain vigilant you must stand strong and you must make sure

this is your sacred duty i'm telling you

you must make sure

that these sex work

pro prostitution marxist never ever have a place in the communist party

it's very important

let'us continue

alexandra colendie

prostitution

what did she have to say about it now

colontai was

i forgot what position she was in

she was a very prominent a

female figure in the bolsevik party again

after the soviet government took power she oversaw women's affairs and

she was a kind of feminist right a communist feminist

she has an article called prostitution and the ways of fighting it

the question of prostitution is a difficult and thorny subject in soviet russia

this sinister

legacy

affects the physical and moral health of the working people

we are still far from being rid of this evil she calls it an evil

and she says her goal is to be rid of the evil

prostitution continues to exist

and threatens the feeling of solidarity and comradeship

between working men and women

and members of the workers republic

these are the authorities

these are the relevant authorities

the psychoby american marxists are making shit up about land back and trying to distort our history

they're doing the same thing when it comes to so called sex work

would communist state allow prostitution

which communist states allow prostitution

every single communist state that's ever existed

ban prostitution

every single one

not only ben that they eradicated it

there was no prostitution in the soviet union no prostitution in china

now i came back after they opened up

in china

their markets

but it was still fought against

vehemently by the government

to eradicate

read this we are not going to read it onstcream but i'm just trying to show you

how they're lying and trying to gaslight us

about what the authorities have said on this matter

if you see hassan operating the communist party what would you do i would move to get him exp expelled

this behavior is worthy of expulsion from a communist party

a person who visits a brothel cannot be a member of a communist party

period

you can't have communist party members running around

who visited brothels

that's fucking unheard of

that's fucking unheard of anywhere in the world you don't have communist party members

running around visiting fuck and brothels

ond

visiting bropols i might add

there are alleged

and are even proven according to testimonies

to have people

working there

against their will

now i'm not making an accusation because i just don't fucking no

but it sounds to me like there was a chance

that hassan

was dealing with people

so to speak

who were there against their will

in other words

her son was with

workers who did not choose to be there

and therefore did not choose

to be with him

i'm not saying that's what happened i don't know if that's the case

i'm just saying it's a possibility because that's something that

is proven to have happened in the past

that artamis

how do you know it's eradicate is it eradicated that artomis now

when hassan went you don't fucking know these things

and the lesson i'm trying to draw is not that i'm trying to accuse hassan of anything

because i don't know right

i want you all i want you all to know

that when you go a fucking brothel

and you hire the services

of a sex worker and you buy sex

there is no

you know you're not having a free and equal transaction between equals

you're not

let me tell you why

there are very few women in this world

who will actually

agree

as anything but the last resort

the have sex with you for money

that's the last

that's something you do when you're so fuck and desperate you have no choice

now listen i'm not trying to police

people's relationship

you don't you think castro wasn't having so bfers he wasn't

he wasn't he plainly wasn't

i'm not trying to police how people

have relationships

okay

i'm not trying to police how people interact

interact however

god damn you want to write

what

the line should be crossed for the infrared community and for communists because i want to raise awareness about this and i want to fight this trend

of no buying sex

a man in this community

cannot

bisex

it's ban

you will be banned from our community

i'm not here to police your private life

but we want to take a firm stand

against this phenomenon

because as this case proved

rubenstein proved

this

brothel that he went to was raided in twenty sixteen for human trafficking

so while it's not illegal to go to that brothel

we're making it illegal in our community

we're not standing for that

and that's what makes us different from d g g

that's what makes us

different from

hassan's community and the rest of them

no one in our community

is going to be involved in the sex trade

as far as we know

two

pigeon donated five dollars

cowlong sex work has prostitution not sex wor but i feel it's a trop in western movies as well

upp class women exploring their sexuality are something by doing sex work by doing prostitution

we're not using the word sex work anymore

were

you cle you guys we cleanse words in our politically correct culture

and you are starting to get gaslighted into using this phrase sex work

the worn in prostitution by the way

there's already a word for it

stop trying to normalize this shit

call it what it is prostitution

call it what it is

you don't we're not using we're not getting on board with this sex work

thing right we're not getting on board with that

the stripper applied in that thread she said she wasn't exploited

i don't give a fuck

what are you talking about

would't i give a shit

what do i give a shit hah

what does it have to do with the facts

that this place was raided in twenty sixteen for human trafficking

yeah i know i've been on twitter dude i've been on twitter

where everyone always says oh it's my choice and i don't feel exploited at all i just choose to do it freely you think i buy that you think i'd give a fuck about any of that and i buy into that

that's not the reality underground

that's the reality on twitter

where you live in make believe fantasy land

that's not the reality on the ground

how the hell is the place still up if it got raided

because western german feminists

insist that it stay up

because feminism in it became a thing where

u is just apparently prostitution is very empowering for women

so they fight for prostitution

and i'm not joking about that by the way

watch exploiting the poorest sex slavery in europe

it's probably um

it's probably got t we s so i don't think i can watch that

it's probably got t o wes so i don't think i can watch them

yet hassan calls every other work wage slavery

but going to a fuckin brothel

is supporting

sex workers

you're supporting them by giving them money

see

let me address this this business i don't care how many bridges i burn

i'm going to address this business

of prostitution and all this kind of stuff

let me address this business

support sex workers by giving them money well if they're privileged

if they are desperate

and

you know they're just doing it for fun

and just because they want money they want to get rich

wait a second

wait a second

latina am i a sex worker no unless you call yourself a prostitute

hassan probably thought he was a good person after thank you may thank you magon

listen

what was i saying

if

if the argument is basically just

oh well support sex workers by giving them money and you're supporting them

well if there if they don't need the money and it's just like because they just want to get rich

why why is a sex worker better than a steelworker

but why do they deserve that

they don't fucking deserve that they don't deserve more support than anyone else

thish you get a fucking real job

you're not owing them any charity so get a real job

wouldn't they do need it to feed their kids or in they're in a state of economic

desperation

then you can still help them if you want to do charity you can still help them

without taking advantage of them sexually

why do you need to receive something in return

if you are doing it out of charity to

help sex workers by giving them money

and they actually do need the money as poor people

who like need money and you know they can't

then you can help them

without demanding

ah

demanding them sexually in return

yeah because sex positivity

is the crux of our position

is what they say

and they literally do say that by the way they actually say that shit

you know all over

wwich

political twitch that's like the norm now like oh y

yeah

sex positivity

listen i am sex negative

i

m sx negative you wanna know why

let me tell you why

i believe in hypocrisy

i believe in the power of hypocrisy you know what that means

it means

we're all sexual beings

what

it's something you can't control

it's something you don't you know you don't

you don't fuck and go to the extreme just

shut down all barriers

and and open all the doors

be a hypocrite that's fine be a hypocrite behind closed doors that's great

but you recognize it is a shameful thing of course it is a funck and shameful thing

it's not a simple thing

why wouldn't you be ashamed to be sexual in front of your mother

would you ok would you be ok with

you know like let's say you're spitting game with a woman

would you be ashamed to do that in front of your mom yes you would

i promise you you would

and you know what that's good

beuse that's human

that's good and human

you know i'm sick of this thing like oll sex is positive it's a good thing it's not a fucking good thing

it's not a fucking good thing

and by the way

by calling it a good thing and a positive thing you're fuckin ruining it

you're making me want to nover

ever ever

get my fock and dick wet again

is that's just such an ugly disgusting thing to say oh let's be positive i don't want to fuck and be positive about it

i don't want to be positive about it

i don't

it's valid don't want to see validation

i don't want your validation that's the thing when i'm

you in five minute doggie

with big body bitches i'm spining you

it's to spite you

you the viewer you the spectator

i'm spiting you and i hope it's your girlfriend too that's the thing

i hope it's your girlfriend

then i'm with

ihe it's your crush that i'm with i'm not doing it for validation no it's not positive

it's not positive

it's a brutal thing and is brutal in the sense of this your girlfriend

that's your crush i just broke yourp feelings in your heart

and i go there the day after

what's positive about that

what's positive about people

giving in to their passions

i'm just taking that risk

maybe there's something poetic about it

but stop

positive it's not like

a risk free safe thing it's not it's not a safe thing in the sense of like

there's a high chance you're going to get your feelings hurt there's a high chance you know it's not going to turn out well for you emotionally there's a high all those things are there and that's what makes it so fucking exciting

and that's what makes it

sex that's what makes it sexual in the first place you puck an idiot

that is not wholesome

the word sex literally come you know what sex means you know the etymology of sex right

sex etymology

i'll show you

six

means denoting too

' for something to be sexed

means it's divided

method it means for something to be sexed

like it's a mathematical word sext right

you sect something into two

comes from sexas

ok

that's literally the opposite

of wholesome

bothom means one

and it's just one wholesome

endeavor that's not that's the opposite of sex that's not what sex is

ok

to this whole sex positivity thing is fuck and disgusting

anyone wll guy something else

there's nothing more

ugly

and

off putting and less sexy than sex positivity sex positivity is just not sexy

it's not sexy

it's not sexy

it's not saxy it's just not

it's ugly

it's really ugly

it's ugly

and

those sex positive people don't have good sex either they they lie about having good sex on twitter and having his great sex life and they don't they have a miserable

miserable horrible sex life where the guy can't get it up

and they just devolves in this like

this fucking jellyfish fest where like

it's not there's nothing remotely erotic about it anymore

you know what's sukin erotic

witserotic is one a conservative girl

a conservative girl

accidentally just starts to give in

to the temptation

that's falkin arund

that's falkin errootic you wanna know what's falkin erraotic

when

two people

do not plan on having any sex

and they just

do

right they just

find themselves that's like erotic right that's like a fucking romance novel

you wanna know what's not erotic

wnd know what's the opposite of erotic

you want to know what's the opposite of sexy

what someems like

sex is great and we should be positive sex is positive

's be happy about sex

let's be happy go lucky it's a good thing and it's fealthy it's fealthy and good for you hi would you like to have sex with me imagine boss would you like to have sex with me

i stoft for a hour

suffer a lot

at on

a

aram all the women

all the people who agreed to that could t desperate for clout

when vosh does that they say yes they're that desperate for cloud

they're that desperate for clocks

i feel so bad for them

i feel so bad for them

that they agree to that just because he has clouds

ya ur on alikon

stuff for the log

stofp for the law i'm not having kids in this country

stop for the law i'm not having kids in this country

i

would you like to have sexy time with me

how is that not more assault that's a form of assault

not a form of assault

that's a form of assault

that's a form of assault

that's a form of mental assault

sexual assault even

i think it should be just as illegal as rape

it should be just as illegal as rape if someone

if you go up to a girl that you don't know and you say that you should go to prison for life

one hundred thousand percent

one hundred a thousand percent you should go to prison for life

if a woman asked me that if a woman asked me that

if a woman asked me that i'll say i mak come i thek come you your parents your grandparents your wle ancestors

leave my presence

and i am not joking

i am not joking about this

i am not joking

this is not a joke i'm one hundred percent serious

that's the most disgusting thing i've ever heard of

the fact that it's being promoted among the twitter

which left these

it disgusts me beyond reproach i'm so disgusted i'm so disgusted and i to think that merrick tried

to cancel jackson

for what he said

when she

is out here with that attitude saying that shit

and friends with the people saying that shit

we live in a topsy turvy upside down world

we live in a topsy turvy

upside down falcon world

where

the most evil disgusting people

get away with doing

whatever the fuck they want

and the good people get cancelled and demonized

for being good people

that's the type of fock and world

we live in

that's the type of fock in world

we live in yeah merrick proposed something called sexual mutual aid you guys want to know what sexual mutual aid is it's when

as a form of solidarity between comrades

you know i i if you have a

a loser guy go go give him some pussy go give him some pussy it's sexual mutual aid right

oh give m some pissy it's your duty

it's mutual aid it's wholesome

it's solidarity it's wholesome

comey come

come

i was son ha cop

this is the last we have in america

i was so my ocome

imagine someone came her syster told her

stec you imagine your sister wants to get involved in politics she joins a party

wen she joined the communist party and merrick was allowed in the communist party she joins the communist party

your sister she's interested in politics

and some fat slob

or some disgusting person

some fat slop comes

and tells her

to do sexual mutual aid

what will you do

what would you do

are you going to let the communist puart become that

we need

the communist party join the communist party stecure it so that these people we can isolate them we need to turn the communist party into a north korea issolated from all these people

people like mrrior should never ever be allowed in

don't secure that party make sure they never ever are allowed inside

if that's left i'm right

yeah sure if that's what if being a right winger

means

with every fiber of your being you reject that i'm a right wing or ultra far right person hundred percent

e hundred thousand percent

if that's the left i'm the far right

but i don't believe that's the leve

i don't believe that's le

i choose not to believe that is

but if it is i the far right

i'm sorry

what

sexual mutual aid

what

it's the most disgusting

horrific

evil thing i've ever heard of in my life

mutual aid really

thank you big nugget

who is to blamed for the grosth's sexual openness

i don't know

i don't know who to blame

the media

blame the media

i blamed something

the media disney i don't know what the fuck it is

they gave these people these ideas

maybe

maybe

maybe maybe

maybe this is what it is

maybe people spontaneously

right

they every human instinct they have in their stomach

they isolated the say i'm going to reject this

they feel the human instinct in their stomach

right

and they go off

now it makes me feel queazy

i have to elevate it

it comes from within

they reject their own human instinct these people hate their own humanity

they hate their own humanity

they hate their own humanity

also it was the sixties and all that dumb shit but

these are people who hate their own humanity

e hundred percent

they're trying to make being human optional

yeah

hundred percent

you want to know how we're going to end up if we keep listening to these people

everyone

it's me

i joined the dsa

in twenty twenty one

and the year is twenty thirty five

and i'm transcended

what do you mean by transcending

well

i uploaded my brain

into a micro chip

because i realized

being human is toxic

can i put you on masks

chip

inside my head

but i got electcuted

but i am part of the singularity now

it's just that

well

i no longer have a soul

my computer has mimicked

my consciousness

but my soorl is still stuck

in my bones in this skeleton

and

i was promoting sexual

openness

and

you know saying that

the family's toxic

and traditional generals are toxic

a that masculinity is the worst thing in the world

but now

i am a computer

i'm a computer guy

everything made out of numbers and wires

i've transcended

t

these old bones are of no use to me anymore

when my consciousness

it' is now on the mainframe

okay

and

well

nothing human

nothing human survives me

all of my thoughts

are jumbled into a mesh

of destruction

i'm part of a robotic army

that hunts down the humans to exterminate the humans and machines w

yes

humans don't know the joys of

te left is alum

which means

the distraction

are youy

all right we're putting that away

ok that's enough

so you see what happens

you see what happens

you see what happens right

you see what happens

you understand

you understand what happens

when you listen to these people just ask him

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you knowur old friend right

and a his name

is a

what's his name

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let's see what do we call hm

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chatter

his name is chitter chatter

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or yeah we're goinga call him yet

yeah yeah the twitter left the yapper he was the twitter lefty

yappin all day on twitter

about twitter lefty stuff

and that's what happened to him in twenty thirty five that's what happened to him

his name is yap

yap or mr yap

so mter yapp is going away right now but he'll be back

trust me mr yap will be back

he will be back

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out of it stale

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excuse me

my coat looked stie

and you don't say things so you're cau crusty

you know what saye

you never complimented me

you don't know the real meach i

you just like what you see

but you don't know the real me

you just objectifying me

and i'm i don't appreciate it

stale cut stale room

i' appreciate it

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i look unreal

but you don't know the real me ok just

using me for my looks

so i don't appreciate your compliments

it just complimenting my looks and not the real mean

and i don't appreciate the objectimification

i don't appreciate the objectim iification ok

i don't appreciate that shit

i don't appreciate that shirp

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no warrior

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instead

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can you see

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this is a video of a

philosopher

saying puty pie is full of shit let's check it out

famous you tube bar there

a video on netzsche

and that was great to sive because it's wonderful to see that me just feel so popular now fine said we should do a reaction video to this because this would

get us probably a lot of views and by the way also some viewers asked us to do a video on nach just so we can basically hit two birds with one stone and

since we're kind of playing with this ar anyways here on this channel we thought we'd try it out and we

i even came over to my place because we can't go to my office today because the university is closed because of covid so in this video a netsa

pue pie

kind of inevitably in this ar starts with the long commercial for a minute introducing a keyboard stop before video begins all pretty pie keyboard

and mouse combots are now thirty percent off

a and then he talks about natscha's fashion style he's moustached

i guess that's

kind of necessary to

profile him i like metcha

he is a german philosopher born in eighteen forty four and uan user

mm

before we dig too much into this i just want to preface by saying that you know i'm not an expert i'm just making this video to hopefully inspire you guys to dig into his readings as well but then beauty py

shares his philosophical take on the

and he says rightly so that natsu is often misrepresented as being annihilve

an that he isn't really a nihilist

because there's so many misconceptions about meet sed that sort of makes you wonder if anyone's ever actually read him and i

in order to illustrate this

misrepresentation he points to a very nice movie little miss sunshine that has this

a young

nimo guy who is a fan of nitse and represents this approach to netzse as

uh you know an attitude towards life where you

uh basically

deny everything will you that do that is nitsa though i'm sorry

every single puck in nachs

every single net sae diued

is this focking like

dark nihlistic like

i am above all morality

something puck up dude

nitcha is emo with fark okay

you deny that you're a fuck and liar i don't care what kind of professor you are

and fuck putupi to a llowle bitch

to have no fun with nothing

and were where you're kind of against everything teenagers appropriate him as a symbol n is a dark pessimistic guy ok

or thinking that life is pointless and i like nitsa i'm a nihilist kind of kind of ew instead

puty pie says rightfully so

need to actually affirms life he's a positive guy

uh at least some

need sir

no no that's the thing is that

wh niche is a firming life

he's doing so at the expense of like christian morality or whatever

so his affirmation of life is a dionysian excess

it's like a bathized dionyesian excess

when

mitscha talks about affirming life

he's talking about the fucking

you know forceful dark ecstasy of of vital life

at the expense of fucon

he's not he's not this like positivity guy ok he's a really nealistic dark ey

kind of a

positive guy

now then putter pie goes on with his kind of personal in depth analysis of netsa

and says that he is special need se was not a bloomer he was in a bloomer he was a doomer

what he likes

netss idea of the eternal recurrence of the same

and he understands this as a kind of

life

affirmation tests but i wanted to keep this simple and focus on the life a farming philosophy and my favorite passage from netsch is the i need i need engineers in a chat

my yaddy my yedddy

is positioned away

from my speaker

but the back

the back

of my yady

is getting feedback from my speaker

how is that

how was that

how was that

what up fuck is going on

how did that happen

what is going on

how was that happening

eternal recurrence which is this idea that noise travels

how do i stop it from travelling

life is a cyclic thing that has been reoccurring and will continue to reoccur for infinity so

if you are ok with like your whole life

repeating itself

over and over again then obviously

you must have a positive attitude towards your life and you're a positive guy

and this kind of repetition he points out even includes the suffering which is of course part of life but

yeah if you're really positive you can also fm that

and then he gives kind of

half corny example about

his wedding where he was dancing with his wife maybe

litt bit to please the

female

he's broking and it's going into my mind

i'm supposed to talking to the mike

ne

what is this

stop talking in my fuck and might dude

i'm just zoomed in on the holls

im

chile you're literally wild and you're wild

the audience during my wedding when i was dancing with marci i felt as being surrounded by my family i had this moment of feeling like you know what whatever my life turns to at least i had this moment guy you see what a haircut you see what a big difference a haircut makes

this is how superficial women are

all because i got a haircut suddenly something changed

i feel so objectified

and i can't believe it

but that's kind of his personal take on

uh nitches

eternal recurrence of the same so he'd like to have this kind of dance repeated over and over again

actually this way of

puti pies nitzschanism

yes

kind of is correct it's a kind of a mainstream understanding of what

and nach's

idea of the eternal recurrence of the same is all about

the question we may ask from a philosophical perspective though maybe this

notion of the

eternal recurrence

of the same is on the one hand

a little bit more complicated

and number two

uh it's not

really that much of a theory of kind of

straight

forward

um let's say teaching as it is

this guy is just

can't

get to the fucking point

this guy cannot just get to the fuccing point

you know

understood usually instead

uh it's more like a kind of a vision that needs you head and

and that even sometimes frightened him and it's influenced by a lot of

things needs to read and new and studied number one greek philosophy the pris a cratics heraclids

they were already kind of big

jesus child what the fougt

you're crazy

you're talking crazy

go on

kind of a cyclic understanding of time you know whats i where you austin i'm actually going to austin this month so keep that same energy

then of course you a keyboard warriors which you are

you're a keyboard warrior

he knew a lot about buddhism through reading schopenhauser oh you not in austin

oh that's too bad

and we find a sort of cyclic idea in buddhism as well

and it even was kind of floating around in contemporary pop science in the second half of the nineteenth century when

and nacha was kind of reading this story

so this is a

intellectual background of this idea which then somehow overpowered natsa

but if we look at it more guy shut up she's not a viewer she's a streamer ok it's different

closely i think it's pretty obvious that

nitss philosophy

doesn't really have

straight

forward

theories or straightforward teaching

needs a

basically

on every page not even in every book speaks

with a whole lot of different voices

and he also says a very contradictory things about

this

vision of the

eternal recurrence of the same

these voices include the cynic

the joker the wise man

the projoker

the joker

from batman

the preacher the scientist the historian and so forth and so forth

so

in this sense by speaking with all these different voices he is kind of

already in a post moodernist way

deconstructing any kind of potential meta narrative of his own thinking

and

but this does not mean that

needsa doesn't say anything that he says nothing

he says contradictory multi layered ambigous in congress things

that reflect

the

contradictory multi layered

ambiguous

in congress

nature of life or human existence for that matter

it's a precisely what makes him

a

post moodernist

existentially syea i don't agree with this shit at all

so

i think

this vision of the eternal recurrence of the same

is not merely simply a yes say or a big

affirmation

at the same time it's equally a big no saying and a big negation

it's pretty clearly a subversion of three major narratives

three major meta narratives that nasre was dealing with throughout his life

so first of course it contradicts the christian narrative which is all about you know

this final end point of resurrection

and second coming what so he reads nietzsche as like a post modernist

guy who just rejects that meta narratives out on by that

and this kind of

history that is

and

you know oriented towards an

en point

and nitchre is basically

with the

vision of the eternal recurrence of the same

saying no

to christianity which of course he also

understands as a form of nihilism

so it's a double negation and no saying to the no saying of christianity which makes the

affirmation is a much more complex thing because it's a double negtiation

and then secondly why is it so hard to understand that nitsche is just an aristotlean with an emo characteristics

nietzsche is aristocle with emo characteristics

holy fok

guys write that down

nietzsche is aristoclit with

emo characteristics it's literally that simple

he jus the drama queen aristotlin

please

also a no saying to buddhism

because buddhism does not only have the cyclic recurrence idea

it also has the idea that eventually you can somehow step out of it and reach something like nirvana

and of course with nietzsch's idea of the eternal recurrence

that's not the case there's no exit to it

thirdly he's also contradicting like the big meeta narrative of the nineteenth century of the view of history as progressing did another video about

hegel and mark swere you also find versions of this

tyve

you pick up the pencil

i'm not picking up the pencil you pick it up for me

n how do i look like

that right

that this idea of progress was kind of very central to the whole nineteenth century european modernity

so the eternal recurrens

vision

also

very strongly says no to the dominating

historical political socio economic narrative of his time

so

at the center of the

eternal recurrence idea is not just an affirmation but a much more complex and powerful

triple

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including a no saying to no say

i think an alternative understanding of nietzsch's idea of the

internal recurrence of the same is

actually as

i like to call it an allegory

of the absurdity of human existen

just to explain this very briefly what i mean with this

i

this idea this vision of an eternal

recurrence of the same has basically three i think

elements to

number one

it's

horrific

it's horrible right the idea that that

everything

to us

without end repeats itself again and again that's like in a horror horror visuion

secondly

uh on another level

uh it's also

extreme boredom

right nothing

changes ultimately everything just comes back and back and back and so

so that's an expression of again extreme boredom

but thirdly and importantly this idea of

the eternal recurrence also has something deeply

comedian to it

i mean just think why

there's structures of jokes right like where you have a running gag that is repeated again and again

or just think of this

movie which

was famous in

the ninetuny nineti s groundhog day which is also a comedy movie this continuous recurrence also has something

deeply ironic deeply humorous to

and

i think this

three dimensions are horrific

the boring

and

uh the funny

very much often overlap

in life

right and we see this in natscha

reflected in many of his ideas for instance in his

reflections on tragedy and comedy

on the dionusium

and the appollinian

they also combine these conflicting

is there a guy

i hope that's a guy kind okay it's

contradictory let's say existential modes

ne

i think that's also very much concentrated

can you shy no that's

you literally lost the plot you've lost the plot i have no idea

what you're

the idea of the eternal recurrence of the saint

so

let's actually look at a short passage from the spoke zarathustra whre nat to talks about

the eternal recurrence of the same and zarathustra speaks about it and

he speaks about it with great disgust

the passage goes like this in english translation

naked had i once seen both of them

the greatest man and the smallest

all to like one another

all to human

even the greatest

all too small

naked had i once

what

even the greatest

that was my chi i'm live rary now what are you doing

you got a chill

this is public

we are in public

discuss

at man

and

the eternal return

also of the smallest

that was my disguss

and all exist

so really here all these three kind

of in congress ambiguous contradictory elements that i spoke about the horror

naked

what

the discuss

the boredom and the comedy they all come together so

of course the horror is expressed

through

discuss

but actually

if we look at the word that needs to uses it's in german it'ss

which means something like

like

wariness or

more precisely

uh when you ate too much of something and you can't eat it anymore so you're kind of being full with something or in english we have the nice call

driving

uber druss

can

saying being

fed up

right

being so bored that you you're

fed up with

things so so that expresses

this combination of boredom

and disgust of horror

but then thirdly we have very strongly i think in this passage also

um

comedian element a humorous

more precisely a carnivalistic element

because we see the great

guys

chi is just all talk she's one of those people that's just all talk

hold on i gotta get food

doing an eat

ho do us want have some chickens

ngest man naked

right and we see the greatest man just like the smallest

this is the core carnivalistic motive

right basically the revelation of the nothingness of great

right that's

humor that's irony that satire

so

nature's idea of this eternal recurrence of the same

is i think

rather than juvenile imon nihilism

or self help

be positive life formation

an allegory of the absurd experience of human life

that combines into one

the incongrent

okay i kinda i kind of buy this this is

i'll buy this

this makes sense

this make sense

the element

your viewers are going down you think i'd give ap bup about my viewers

hop the viewers

we do what we do

cora

boredom

i'll care about the viewers like tomorrow you know today we're just coming back ok

i didn't even expect to have y viewers today

and comedy

maybe just like the experience of

watching a

pauty py video on you tube guys viewers are easy to get

ok don't worry about viewers

yours

all i have to do to fuckin get this week i fucking got

eight hundred fifty viewers why because i woke up

start the stream at four

this six hour stream and is like it's got the habit of that

now my scheduling has been off

cause i wednesday wen on the royal

thursday i got a haircut our back friday we're back on the grind so don't worry about it

a way can also feel all these

three different feelings at the same time

so that's it about the

nitzscha and the eternal recurrence of the same and

for the next video we're planning g i rate this guy a boring fuck out of ten he didn't even fucking elaborate on the comedy whore

an absurdity type of thing

so it's not

particularly in interesting

die

we won on video games and then we hope that

putive i will do reaction video to us as well

okay

i'm thinking if we should watch the nick land video

this is a spook quite a video this is like a super spooky video b nick land

it's a good video

ok

it's a good video

right

knelt down oh

' wwatch meltdown

nickland meltdown

is it video to us is there any to us in this i bet there's to s in this socen video

that's why we're not going to watch it

there's probably a lot of teos

i know that

of the collective who

made this it switted the organs without bodies

orphan drifts yeah

i know what them

there is implied gore yeah there's gore in it that's the thing

i knew that

to withdraw from the world market invited me to go

a quick rundown on accelerationsm

the market economy

capitalism oh this is a cool video

there's actually good videos on this

there's actually a good high quality videos on this

ok

you know what child

you

are playing a very dangerous game

so i can see

so i can see

playing a very dangerous

game

k child

you need a chill

calm down a little bit

all i could say is you a keyboard warrior that's all i could say

bas

ten hour doggy stream when

never

the idea of ten hour doggy is

so horrific

i can't even fathom it

latina's live

what

what is she wearing let me see

i have an ad

i have an ad

i have an hed

this is little red riding hood

among us among us among us among us among us

sqidward game

handsome squidward game

o but like for real don't you just like wake up sometimes and you're just like why do i look like handsome swidword

like

everybody looks like him at least one point in their lives and that day that you look like this is the laziest but then costume i've ever seen in my life come back to that

do you guys remember like the last time you looked to your best

and when was it tell me about it was the laziest costume st

or at least of all time and like

worked hard ah

always look like doodle doodle sponge bom

douty spongebob what the fuck doodle

lazy as costume

shut the fuck up i was going to wait for you to come

i have the address

do you want me to put it on and then it won't be lazy

oh sit

just

wait

like a minute

and then i'll put it on

ok what the far

bright

yah

we're still going to judge we' still going to judge

change title

what's the title right now

oh

i literally can't put the shit on

what thing is the a hook

i look like i'm scared like something's going to fall off hold on

okay ready

honur

this is the dress

scared with the fun

of a wardrobe malfunction

it's like

it's like a brahwk

what is that so like fox

what costume is that

he probably laughed he's like i'm not going to wait for those shit

i was waiting for a i need a good rating

looks like a maternity dress

this does not look like a little red riding book ok k out of here

not i lost my head f lking she thinks i'm gone so i don't have to respond to he i do't but the drive this does not look like little red riding

like does that look good

she looks like wonder woman this is like the most effort i put she looks like wonder woman who died and went to heaven and wears a white robe

enough

but is still wearing her my entire body

to do this i look

too bad

have you a hot mom i can't wait toill have kids

like i don't want kids right now but i can't wait

like i can't wait

and like years from now i just

but i'm scared because i feel like they're going to get the worst traits for me

another twitch team weer watching me

who

don't tell her

are you guys what you guys are all twitch streamers aren't you exactly streaming

ok i've never understood like why would you download twitch if you don't want to stream

yeah

thanks

she's scaring me

she's reckless i feel like she's going to have a wardrobe malfunction and i don't want

anything

what do with that

ok

she's very reckless so i can say

i

we're going to watch this

bow issues nowadays seem pretty much impossible to deal with

whether at the individual or collective level it's honestly hard to imagine you know what should i call her

and get that sumb nail

now we'll do that later

if i get desperate

good news

we'll do that later

what

imagine a way out of inequality pollt

i only be reckless

oh my godchild

pollution know what i'm a call you right now how about that

i'm sick of you just talking shit in my chat

i'm goninga call you and actually see what you about

oh oh the keyboard warrior got called out let me see where are you

sive

shy bunny let me call you

i'm not home

exactly

holld out

you talking all that crazy shit of my chat

i need nothing to play around with chah

i nothing to play wrong with

i'm in a hotel cause my mom's starting a kitchen fire

what

human rights violations and any other assortment of dread inducing buzzwords

quite a few issues nowadays seem pretty much impossible to deal with

whether at the individual or collective level it's honestly hard to imagine a way out of inequality pollution human rights violations and it isn' so you video

ok we're going to give it a chance but

his video is focken sore

before

yeah i have the quick rundown video right here

don't worry we're going to watch it next

she goning to give us a chance

call latina what a is you doing

i'm actually in a calln

ising

book these ads

i am

walking sick

of ads

i am sick of falcon ads i am sick of ads

i am

fucking sick of ats

okay

firs so i kind of need to like

situt

i know i thought i added bt t v

like i think i added it did i not like you probably are spelling it wrong because it should' have

get a scissors and do some latina shit

hey hold on

she's literally goin to have a wardrobe malfunction

ok

no that's too short

i'm exiting out ofice

let's consinue any other assortment of dread inducing buzzwords

but maybe we just aren't being creative enough

in a one nine hundred sixty seven sci fi novel lord of light there is a group of revolutionaries

way off in the future who want to take their society to the next level they believe they can do so through swiftly altering the social attitudes people carry about technology instead of fear of the unknown we should put our foot on the gas and see where it takes us

they called themselves accelerationists

accelerationism is the real world belief that technology and capitalism should be sped up this is either because they genuinely think this is a good idea that will result in some sort of techno capitalist utopia or because there is simply no alternative

but on to k speed you focking low attention span

fucking don't realize he's not even fucking stalking that slow

i'll be your cat girl any day

eo

aaction

jesus

we can either prolong our suffering or go right through it

hence they push for deregulation the merging of the digital with the human and the overall rejection of the belief that we can somehow control progress

current accelerationist circles have even argued that the election of trump too easy what do you mean too easy

sime

i'm sorry but

i'm going to austin oka and you don't live in austin

so

this is all a mirage

this is all a mirage

trump a hyper capitalist anti establishment figure

is the first true manifestation of their movement in politics where did this begin exactly

many point to the mysterious philosopher and writer nick land as the source of the movement

land was a young professor at warwick

already known for his eccentricity love of nietzsche and his propensity for climbing over chairs

he would tell his lecture audiences that he worked in the field of the collapse of western civilization studies and he would also get extremely high in his office

reading everything can you guys pay attention to this man

pay attention are you paying attention

i don't know folt iing to have to watch this again

need attention

he could get his hands on land quickly consumed all of delu and gutari's work

including antiedips as well as the work of leotard

these thinkers emerged at a time when the leftist project appeared futile in anti piss tari in to lose wrote about the lefts need to acknowledge the ability for capitalism to liberate and oppress

rather than simply oppose it at every turn

they suggest embracing the anarcchic tendencies of the free market in order to go still further in the movement of the market to accelerate the process

leotard would also write libidno economy

which praised capitalism why the fuck is adriana calling me

oh

the fox

oka

she just called i called her back

for its naturalness and that even its most oppressive aspects were enjoyed by its victims

land was inspired by this thinking and began to form his own philosophy

in nineteen ninety two he suggested that capitalism had never been fully unleashed and was always held back by politics a practice he considered primitive the last great sentimental indulgence of mankind

he began to form this idea of embracing the apocalypse through acceleration

land saw capitalism as the motor of modernity above and beyond any shl should i restart the video

should i restart the video

ones if i should twoshy i shouldn't

ally chy chy

child you

you are playing a very dangerous

game

you need to realize

i am not

child

you need to understand okay

you really need to understand

the individual movement

this is strengthened by hyperstition which is what he called the action of successful beliefs and ideas that once emergent in the culture give rise to their own reality through apocalyptic positive feedback loops

they are fictions that make themselves true

by you are a key board warrior you say things

and you do not know

the reality

capitalism is perhaps the g could not

handle me

prorass me you cannot handle me

harass me cannot handle it

gates aet this through for example forming consumer desire for things that aren't actually essential

capitalism he adds reduces the importance of the self

this was an idea that land was quite comfortable with as he argued the individual has now become less important than the system they lived within the human experience is becoming increasingly irrelevant

this is evident in an early speech of lands called let's put the rat back in rationality he argues that we should view death not as a particular event in an individual's life

but rather through the view of the rats carrying the black death across europe

as a world encircling swarm with no coordinates or individuation when asked if he is telling us to abandon the human experience he simply responded that it's worth studying but shouldn't be prioritized

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lan's thought was only further encouraged by new arrivals at the warwick philosophy department

who equally rejected the optimism of the californian ideology which envisioned a world in which new technology unlocked human potential

as well as the traditional leftist view of humanism and rights that pervaded humanity's departments with the help of two young lecturers mark fisher and sety pont

they form the cybernetic cultural research unit or c c r u

which operated within a single office in the philosophy department the c c r u listed these now commonly discussed but at the time quite niche topics as their general discussion points

and they would regularly produce cryptic articles with invented terms and convoluted messages

for example the article swore machines discussed

i remember this website is the website still online

i litterally went onwn our hole rapitable and looked at all of this

the situationists

carbondating and describes jungle and intent still up they take it down every once in a while

pissing

hense genre of electronic dance music

they would also host virtual futures conferences that acted as a performative way to reject the common discipline and formality of university lectures for example in one land simply laid down in front of an audience and croaked into a mike while they played jungle

an audience member reportedly stood up and said

some of us are still marxists you know and stormed out

as time passed the c c r u became more and more despised land would leave the department and continue the work of the c c r u above a spa body shop there the group drifted from accelerationism towards sod youar that he literally went

got on the ground and started making weird croaking noises

as like a perf he was like it was like an experimental i don't know what he was doing

and some guy came and hes like you know s of us are still marxists and then he storms out

what are we do in spooky hours

m

i think i'm going to start it at the five hour mark

bi hour mark is when we're going to have like

freedom to do spooky

mess around stuff but we have another nick land video after this and hopefully it's way better

um but yes we're going to do next poll

next po videos and things like that

o cult a move likely inspired by their abusive use of amphetamines and alcohol they would move into the satanist allster crowley's old house and spend the nights drawing satanic diagrams on the wall

after several mental breaks the members including nick land disappeared from the public

honestly chi is making me want to just d ream right now

you know

but

i'm staying strong

i'm staying strong

look eye

and the c c r u was officially disbanded

the first half of nick land's life

is still considered to this day to be a radical extension of leftist thinking members of the c c r u such as mark fischer have continued their work with great success

for example fisher would go on to establish i'm not given into the say tanic temptations

theory that continued to argue for the acceleration of capitalism

but suggested it be channeled towards an altered modernity

based on automation reduced working hours and this is the soyshit from fuck and nick sernakk and alex williams

land re emerging in china years later would criticize this left accelerationism stating that the notion that self propelling technology is separable from capitalism is a deep theoretical error that's right

nickland moved to china

there he has since appeared far more pro government and has gone on to write that china is a fundamentally accelerationist society fixated on the future and speed

more significantly land has a

you know what child whators

what state do you live in

you said you're on the east coast

we're on the east coast

you know what shy i'mt i'm might call your bluff this how about this

how about this i'm go to call you bluff

it on a flight

come here

how about that

expanded on his views of accelerationism through his piece entitled the dark enlightenment

in it he argues that freedom is in

hold on let me look up where that is

us not going to leak

but

let me see where that is

four

is that far

i'm not a man

i can't do o f right now

oh so

you're reinforcing sexist roles interesting

so i have to come to you

compatible with democracy in that there is no value in democracy left

instead he pushes for a post libertarian future which embraces authoritarianism

book my flight

i literally will book your flight

i will actually book your flight

don't test me tchy

specifically he

i'm not a one night though i'm for life what

what do you mean for life

he wishes for an ideal state that can be considered to be a capitalist monarchy or govcorp in which the state is controlled by an authoritarian e o

who manages the state through what land called rational corporate governance

you know what

that's the biggest debate i've ever heard of in my life

that's the biggest debate i've ever heard of in my life

where's my date beforehand

what have you seen the filthy things you have been typing in my chat

where was the date before you type those pilky things

in my chat

extremely

extremely inappropriate

extremely inappropriate

comments

that work

manipulation

temptation

detractication of the highest degree

of the highest degree

what about some semblance of human rights or rule of law at this point in lan's career such concerns are seen as a hindering to acceleration

egalitarian policies slow us down when sha doon begone

that's the new rule shake on begone is the new rule

didn't you say it was a sult to ask for sex

yes

directly

it is

but she started

instead we should be rushing towards what land calls the techno capitalist singularity

this anti egalitarian embrace had

is united land's current ideology of what he calls neo reactionism

with the alt right

neo reactionaries tend to believe in the

what

replacement of the modern nation with authoritarian city states that value genetic fitness and intelligence

such an advocacy for what has sometimes been called hyper racism

or the belief that some groups will fare better in moderate conditions than others

and should be accelerated out of existence

has been seen as obviously controversial and hateful

nickoland insists that the opportunity for viable ethno supremacist politics

disappears into a logical abyss

what to make of nick land

it's rare to hear of someone so brutally honest about the state of the world and the future it's also equally rare to hear of someone who appears to embrace the speeding up of everything

that is popularly considered to be bad

or at the very least yeah i know the other bit is better we're going to watch it after

i suspect the other bvis wy better

it is and there's a peculiarity to land's tone so comfortable with disregarding the human experience and the individual

that leaves one uncomfortably in agreement with the idea that the human eror is drawing to a close

his thoughts drift between crude especially when describing race

to uniquely insightful such as when he discusses the implications of capitalism on the self

accelerationism has found support in environmental and marxist circles

and his also how

no it hasn't i've never heard of that

actually i have kin

a right

i've never heard of this

i've never heard of this in my life i have never heard of this so been blamed for white supremaist attack

are you for the shiaks and of that dark sel

m

what do you mean for it

nickolin is an interesting thinker

but this shit is different ok

oh god is this bad photo floating sub psycheling

oh no okay i thought it was footage of someone getting run over with the fox

i'm green within all movements that struggle to understand to advance

to hope in a world of speed and transformation

sometimes it's freeing to know that

guys can you shut the fuck up and stop backseat streaming me

and it's world view

perhaps nickland is the per

perfect to represent

chjaesus

what

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you gott to be careful oka

yeah

gm of ideas

i don't know

h

gott taking a break

im okay

we're going to watch the other video

we're going to watch that other video

okay

a child you have my attention you have my attention

what a farg

i did not know about this

so i have to come to you

everybody's pray for me right now

i need everyone to pray for me right now

everyone has to pray for you right now

shaight on begon

shate on begon

okay we're going to expel

seight on

be gone

when was this one

understanding has gathered the

the market economy

capitalist

don let me just scroll through this make sure everything's okay

scroll through

ok this is going to be a really important video guys this is like a really

good

insightful

video

understanding has gathered the

the market economy

capitalism

is a discovery process

it's inherently epistmology

but i should have an introduction to this first

we're not going to watch this ok

nss can i watch this randomly

listen

okay so this is nick land this is the guy i talk about a lot

the nick land and the accelerationist

the media talks about accelerationism and it's referring to something different ok

deferring to the thing that o the guy talked about at the very end of his video

um

um

we keepingm strong we keep m strong we keeping strong

everybody we keep in strong we keep in strong

anyway

a

yeah we going to watch this video

a very important thinker

most important thinker i would say was the nineteen nineties

most important marxist think are in the nineteen nineties

can i say that

yeah i think so

one of the most important british marxist thinkers of all time if not the most important i think i can say that

most important british marxister postmarks where you ca marxis adjacent thinker

period

unders standing has gathered theam

the market economy

capitalism

is a discovery process

it's inherently epestmology

it's not just the object

oh

philosophical attention it's it has its own

in hel

philosophical activity

i think capitalism and artificial intelligence are the same thing it's the same

prosens capalism can only be artificial

hold on

intelligence production and part of this intelligence can only come out of self propelling capitalism you're not understanding either you don't see ultimately identical

follow the light the light is your guide

so acceleration ist

starts here

what

actually let's not get

little bit more context

little bit more contaxt

well ok well too much context let's

smooth things

there's nothing to was in this video was there

forward just a little ok here stuff

both

this should work

so marx is really the foundational proto accelerationist

although obviously mark

anti capitalist

he was a staunch utilitarian when it comes

practe

and if there's any doubt just read a speech on the question of free trade where he wrote

in general

the protective system of our day is conservative

while the free trade system is destructive

it breaks up

chi you playing a very very dangerous game

very very dangerous game

ok

very very dangerous game

like i don't know who you know i don't know if you think i'm like these uh

you know like these twitched little boys like i'm a gamer or whatever like you playing a very dangerous game that's all i could tell you you playing a very very dangerous game

old nationalities and pushes the antagonisms of the proletariat and the bourgeoisie

to the extreme point

in a word

the free trade system hastens the social revolution

it is in this revolutionary sense alone gentlemen

that i vote in favor of free trade

so in contrast to what many people may believe

marx was not against using capitalism in every aspect

he recognized the very revolutionary potential

and exploiting the contradictions in capitalist

for mark

capitalism can be used so long as it's used as a weapon against capitalism itself

we can also find threads of this self destructive aspect of capitalism

in the communist manifesto as well

mark says

bourgeoisse

historically

has played a most revolutionary part

borge was

wherever it has gont the upper hand

has put an end to all fudile

patriarchal

idyllic relation

it is pitilessly torn asunder the motley feudal ties

bound man to his natural

period

and his left remaining no other next

between man and man the maked self in

callous

hem

in simpler words

the contradictions which will bring the revolution to bear

exist within capitalism itself

capitalism's essential aspects as a mode of production

as marks put it

bring to the surface a contradiction

imminent in capitalist production

it isn't hard to see the exitment

coloration is logic built into this idea

if capitalism contains within it the contradictions which bring

capitalism down

then slowing capitalism down doesn't

hurt it so much as it actually prevents

capitalism from hurting itself

a marxist accelerationist might suggest that we should

speed up capitalist processes

in order to hasten their collapse

instead of trying to focus on protectionism

both economic and humanists

which would only extend the capitalist process

over a longer period of time

thus resulting in a greater

net negative

then we get these

delosing gtari writ the capitalism and schizophrenia series

taking marxist materialism and

surgically replacing dialectics with psychoanalysis

this frankenstein's monster of theory becomes influential in many disparate subjects

such as

anti psychiatry

or

literature

and eventually this guy

but wait we'll get

the key to delosing guatari in relation to accelerationism is the idea of deterritorialization

deterritorialization is an extended concept

of that destructive element that marx identified in

trade

basic idea behind this

and this is where stuff gets really weird

so hold on

the basic idea is that flows of desire

are set

free by the introduction of things like money and free trade

leading to social destabilization on a far greater scale than marx actually predict

this destabilization isn't simply a contradiction within capital

rather it is some sort of force

an outside force which has function to destabilize societies long before capitalism was around

capitalism is simply the historical stage

you know what

you know what um

never mind let's keep playing which

thus far releases the most flows of desire

and therefore produces the most

force the most

social

destabiliz a

this force is what the losing quatari

term deterritorial

deterritorialization everyone deterritorialization

focus and pay attention classes in session focus and play attention

pay attention and focus ok

focus and listen

from antiotopus

decoded desires and desires

coding have always exist

history is full of

kpt

capitalism in its break are defined not solely by

float

but by the generalized decoding of

the new massive deterritorialization

the conjunction

deterritorial

we

so capitalism is a unique simply because it has the most

code

it is as if society in a very real sense

has become a decoding machine

society's decoding machine produces a feedback loop of

give a fantization

a movement which opens the potential for an attempted

overcoming the barrier of capital itself

not simply to the contradiction and negation of capitalism

but instead

pass over the body without organs

into a place of radically creative production

hopefully in the sake of bringing us towards

what they called

the new earth

ok

now you may have noticed that none of that made any sense

don't worry

that's a normal

we need to put ourselves through

it's important

let's try one more

remember mark

he had this whole idea of historical progression

don't worry about this whole thing though because delosing withtari come up with a whole new set of states

this swall volume is a little too low

all right i know this looks like a lot but really can ignore most of it for now

all we really need to focus on

is that there are stages

ca

history they're following a line drawn by the process of deterritorialization

okay you know what chil

i'm going to fuk and book your flight right now

i'm going to book your flight right now

i'm going to call your bloff right now and book a flife for you

so you can come

here and show me that same energy

in between

stage of capital

and the body without organs

we see

the schizophrena as a clinical entity

these would be like casualties produced by failed attempts at overcoming the barrier of capital

it's important then to know that schizophrenia in a clinical sense

and schizophrenicis ation what de lusing guitar are trying to talk about

they're not actually the same thing

don't make the mistake of reading this as a vulgar glorification of schizophrenia

it's actually really not

another question a lot of people have quite

understandably

the hell is a body without organ

well 'sten eg

but

it's also the remains of a totally deterritorialized sociist

a place to act and record yourself upon

delues uses the term

sir roboert sir

which means

literally

to fall or fall back upon

and upon this totally deterritorialized sociist

the potential for those

decoded flows of desire to move in these radically new and

creative unprecedented ways

there is a real potential in this production of deterritorialized flows of desire

of the schizophranntization of capitalism

a potential to actually

as deluzing gutari put it

overcome a limit

shatter a wall

the capital is barrier

hopefully the logic here is pretty clear

the deterritorialization of capitalism isn't something which

simply needs to be dealt with

it's something which needs to be worked through

in order to take full

advantage of that schizophrentitization of capitalism for our potential escape from the body of capital

into the vague

optimistic concept of a new earth

one last passage from antiotipus to tie it all up in a nice little bow

it should therefore be said that one can never go far enough in the direction of deterritorialization

you haven't seen anything yet

and irreversible process

to a point where the earth becomes so artificial

that the movement of deterritorialization

creates of necessity

and by itself

a new earth

well

okay

now this is starting to sound like real accelerationism

hopefully now we have a decent amount of context to get started on the man himself

he this is going to be the interesting part this was like the most boring introduction i've ever

seeing my light

so i'm sorry for that but this is where it's going to get interesting

this pint

nick land was a professor of philosophy at warick university in the nineties when a certain research group

the c c r u

began quagulating around the work of sadie plant

eventually plant steps down and nickland takes the reins

the drugs in the jungle music really start to infect the assemblage

soon enough we get all sorts of weird experiments like

collective identities

court apology

snake becoming

and many more

work would vehemently deny any association with the c c r u and actively deny its existence a common motto became

the csiaru has not

does not

and will never exist

it is during this wild descent into drugs music and french philosophy that nicklan makes his major intellectual turn

accelerationism

to couse a clear upgy

i'm not down

me tell me how doa

not gokd of got tired of

what is it to us

tosten

thank of

bye

for god buty i think it all

h

now boy wlldy

tik fiftic switch your si

youut cok

it's resoite

it's rasla

this is actually rosa

i'm actually starting to get pissed off i'm not going to lie i'm actually starting to get pissed off

i'm actually starting to get pissed off

yeah

all right me and chi are going to be doing a lab stream

i this week and i'm booking her flight and she's going to get a ass over here

this week

and probably preferably

this weekend

actually

preferably this weekend

preferably tonight

but

she's kind of far

actually how far is that let me see actually let me see let me see

we can actually make this happen tonight

how far is it let me see

distance

oh shit

that's my car

it's only an hour away

it's only our way

o k so chi is coming to night

but

the

m

she trying to get me band or something i don't you know

this

this is a

okay

it's collab time

me and chai we're goning to do an irel collab stream

this weekend

latest

latest next week

latest next week

so that's just an quick announcement i wanted to have

you know hope you guys look forward to and everything and um

what a fut

no way

that doesn't even make sense

that literally doesn't even make sense

that literally doesn't even make sense

what

but

holy hit it's look lic mind had been cleensed

wait what

way hold on

mind

it's been cleansed

wait what clab

i don't know anything about itlab what are you talking about

i don't know anything about a clab i you know

i yeah i don't know what that is

i'm on you o tin you i fits almost f that g f you want to fit i't you don't want me thin go i take it the fokus is st us

o you

how would he

wre to puch

bth

coordinate a is this aneme shit ma'am

one

squishes a woman to death in the scene yeah i'm going to skip it

yeah it's super gory

exccelerationism is not ok we're good

back

hey i'm actually for real chi we are doing i rl collaborative content

this week

or this weekend

so i don't know if you had anything scheduled or you had any whatever plans cancel all of them

and i will literally book your flight

vim me the details i'm a book your flight

hundred

thousand percent

i will book your flight

the easiest thing to define

recently land tweeted that

accelerationism means whatever the process makes it mean

wk

that's not a very satisfying answer is it

in light of this let's instead try and figure it

i have to move in this new place with mine

next eg go to my mom and i work this one

what what do you mean you work this one what do they even mean

i'll see if i can fit you in my schedule

this week

this week

becaus i'm going to austin

by the end of the month

this week

okay

like it has to be this week

like next week i'm probably going to be going to austin

so

and call in sick or something like that

you know say it's like emergency or you know you have to attend to some business

and you know you have to you know

just say like you know you got to go out and you know

take a ride out of town

and a ride in another town

you know what i mean like just something like that

figure out what the process has made it mean thus far

well if we go back to c c r you airland

where accelerationism was created

there isn't all that much as far as definitions really go

fank newman i rarely mentions the word acceleration

instead focusing on broader notions of cybernetics and the production of non human intelligences

a quick search of the book shows only one instance of the word

acelberation actually written by nick lin himself

oh boy all right let's get into it

so let's jump a little bit farther forward see if we can

figure out why we don't see the word acceleration a whole lot

this is a passage from nickland's

a quick and dirty introduction to accelerationism

which is something i hope you've read before you made it here but if not go read it

and for those of you who aren't going to read it here's an excerpt

for acceleration ism the crucial lesson was this

a negative feedback circuit

such as a steam engine

governor or thermostat

functions to keep some state of a system in the same place

its product

in the language formulated by french philosophical cyberneticist

gilles de lousz and felix guatari

is territorialization

to capture the contrary trend

characterized by self reinforcing errantcy

flight or escape

dan g coined the inelegant but influential term

deterritorialization

deterritorialization is the only thing accelerationism has ever really talked about

and this is what we'll use as our skeleton key to explore fang neumena

ah searching territorialization returns more than a dozen written instances by land

hopefully you can see why i put you through all that to lose

ok

so let's use this skeleton key to start translating

so we have feedback circuits which come in two form

positive

and negative

these are the basic schematics borrowed from a field called cybernetics thank you or will appreciate you

swhich land mapped cleanly on to delusian deterritorialization

territorialization reterritorialization

and

further on to acceleration as

so when you hear the words that people mean all the time cybernetics deterritorialization

this is what they were referring to this

sort of basic schema of feedback loop

positive feedback loops

circuits which excite themselves

and negative

hold on

feedback

which either hold the circuit's excitement in place

stace's

or decreases the excitement in the circuit

from nick lan's machinic desire

capitalism is not a totalitizable system

defined by the commodity form as a specifiable mode of production

determinately negated by proletarian class consciousness

it is always on a move towards a terminal non space

melting the earth on to the body without organs

and generating what is not promised

and pre existing land

but a world created in the process

you're not getting a kiss you have been sole

thata

you are not getting a kiss

at all

bes of its tendency

it's coming undone

its deterritorialization

capitiz your behavior

it's not the type of behavior that

should be rewarded ok it's the type of behavior that needs to be

punished

you understand you're not getting a kiss

lil is not in essence

but a tendency

the formula of which

is decoding

or market driven imminentization

progressively subordinating social reproduction

techno commercial replication

so land is discounting here the marxist accounts remember it's eighteen plus stream i don't want to kids here

ya

this is an extremely

um you know what guys remember i said i was going to decorate my house i think uh

isn't it isn't isn't a cage kind of spooky i should get a cage i should go buy a cage you know what i mean

like can you know like

it's spooky isn't it like halloween decorations

so you know

i don't know

what do you think

of capitalism as a fixed mode of production

one negated from within

but instead of something active

something on the move

towards what

terminal non space

the body without organs

remember in antiotipus we didn't see capital as something headed for something

sure it was active it decoded

it certainly wasn't the fixed marxist idea of capitalism

but if you remember the chart

the body of capital was something that was supposed to be left behind

it was a stage in the process of deterritorialization

one that provided the potential for our escape

human escape

but wait

human escape

where is the

m

so on this is actually an important question so tied

so you slip it clean and you're not going to spit it out

because if you spit it out it doesn't count

this is actually important af to notice

okay good

and

but what if i like what if like a

go like

when i'm giving you you know like

the milk

like what if it spills

like

you know like on your

you know

what if i accidentally spray it like

on your body you know

what then

like are you going to look at ofar

this human antioch

antiotopus

this is the most harn stream ever

his stream is sob beyond hallanm

i

machines

the

intentionally or not

reads as if it was written for the machines not us

so why did they come to that conclusion that the new earth was

something human something for us

why did they come to the conclusion that escape was meant for humanity

was it just a given that humans are the protagonist and this

cosmic story

so many billions of years are elder

that humanity was wearing the plod armor all along

this is the transvaluation

the inhuman transvaluation

that really makes nick land's work what it is

he was the one to set aside that unfounded assumption

and truly continue the marxist critique

no matter where it leads

escape berracon bro you have five hundred viewers she's just one of them watch land

brah

well i'm waiting for a viewer to top the o

it's like a bidding you know it's like if you want to top that

you can try actually don't try

what

you know the

abrout five hundred of you but you know

it's

i think right now it's really tough to top this you know

so yeah

i think it's really tough

yes

absolutely look at the system look at the deterritory what happened to the debate to day

chi decided to have a debate with me instead

but

she wanted to have a different nonverbal type of debate

and it's a debate that we're only going to be able to have i rl so she's actually going to come here

this week remember it is gonna be this

week

before i go to austin and we're going to have like

you not

a debate

off

stream

and i'll tell you how the debate goes basically

djk three sixty seven donated five dollars

chinese to chill

i's about to bust live

um

it's nothing about the bus live

s im back to

get out

of this apartment

and take a plane

and go to the east coast and

you know

that's

you know it's

listen i

it's been a long time ues okay

been a long time

it's been a long time

right

and the way she's playing with me and all that kind of shit she plays a dangerous

dangerous game and i really don't think she even knows what she's getting herself into

i really don't even think she knows what she's getting herself into

you know

that's why i'm just kind of

what

anyway back to nickland

you know

thatks and a glin

but

berealization the movement the positive feedback

the schizophrenia the paranoia

so let's ask the hard question then

if the process

is it meant for us

whose escape are we headed toward

do to w dot anve

the story goes like this

earth is captured by a techno capital singularity

as renaissance rationalization and oceanic navigation lock

into commoditization take off

logistically accelerating technoeconomic interactivity

crumble social order

an auto sophisticate

six

on

you know what since con

i am the con

and

soour

she's stepping up

so are you going to step up and heplay siscan

to pay tribute

then shut up

that's what i thought

what

latina

your stream went out

holyok

old well

give me a second guys um i just gotta see something

everybody pray for me everybody pray for me

everybody prayed for me

everybody prayed for me

everybody got a pray for me

adkating machine runaway

as marcus learned to manufacture intelligence

politics modernizes

upgrades paranoia

and tries to get a grip

the body count climbs through a series of globe wars

emergent planetary commercium trashes the holy roman empire

hire

the napoleonic continental system

the second and third che

and the soviet international

cranking up world disorder through compressing phases

deregulation

and the state

arms race each other into cyberspace

converging upon terrestrial meltdown singularity

phase out culture accelerates through its digit tech heated adaptive landscape

passing through compression threshold norm to spooky hours as promised

i'm currently being spooked in a different way

um

we already have in spooky hours

an intensive logistic curve

fifteen hundred seventeen fifty six

eighteen eighty four

nineteen forty eight

eighteen eighty

nineteen ninety six

two thousand and

two thousand and eight

two thousand and

two thousand and eleven

nothing human makes it out of the near future

all right now we get to the real real mean fodder here

capitalism is a

transcend an ai from

somewhere outside of time

working itself into actual form through the positive feedback process of capitalism

yes that is nickolan's point

capitalism is ai

if you consider the production of artificial intelligences

and capitalism different things

that only means you don't under

oh my

g

thank you so much jackson

you call me at a hoarrible time

you jackson thank you so much but you call me at a time where i'm literally

be

attacked mentally

you call me a very bad time

where i am under attack mentally and spiritually

what

watch the communism vers anti comomunism damonor deb its it's probably too us on twitch right

and also

sh

understand either of the concepts well enough so that

tatina i'm leaving sorry why are you leaving

that's where we are left some sort of retrochronic hyperintelligent ai has infiltrated

or infected mankind

somewhere in europe around fifteen hundred

and only now are we in a reflexive position to realize i don't care about destiny's twitter dude

it's the last thing on my mind right now

what do you think i care about destiny's twitter

this thing that we had for a long time thought of is some inert system which we propagated

is now something with such a high degree of autonomy

and dictation over our society

perhaps it's best to start asking the question

are we even behind the wheel anymore

it's a matter of debate just how much of lan's writing was parable

how much was metaphorical

how much was straight up fiction

i personally think with the early es on i saw the

it's best to lean towards reading thang neman one hundred percent seriously

i know that can be really hard to do sometimes

but i think it's on us to sort of take up that challenge and actually try

best we can

to muster an answer to these questions no matter how

bizarre they may seem superficially

the late mark fisher put it in no less dramatic terms

land was our nitsche

and if nietsche is any sort of model

it is pertinent

one

what carkin

miss

to note that

more often than not

it was his most provocative and radical statements which

echo is the most prescient today

i mean who could imagine the common man who does this to a man when he's live

who does this to a man when he's alive

when he's literally alive

like in front of all of these

innocent viewers

a man hearing that god was dead

would he not have reacted i've never seen that ever

same way that we do when we hear that earth is captured by a techno capital singularity

can't shot talk shit to zerka why

of course i can talk shit to zerko

perhaps

land might not agree

i mean not any more at least

he's come down off the drugs and began to suffer from

an epoch of deep disillusionment as he put it

stemming from what he called the facebook era

before for example in the writings of fang numena

land may not have been a card carrying marxist or anything

but he was certainly on the side of liberation

there was a certain inescapable feeling of potential

radical new lines of flight

k tactics

cyber gorilla

insurgency

effectve feminine violence

this was all considered radically left as political practice

the land distanced himself from all of this

he cut as many personal ties as he could to what he referred to as his ancient work

opting that it belongs in the clawed embrace of the undead amphetamine god

he ran his zenosystems blog for a while including a

very worthwhile rundown on kek as an archaic chaos god

but it became clear to everyone that lance thought was swerving quite hard to the right

eventually

nickland finds mould bugs

his neoreaction accelerationism

no not really

has it become a major source of inspiration and critique for acceleration is theory

yes absolutely

so

preempting the complaints

this guy made it in a video

to chief concepts at the five thirty mark we're going to watch next full

the five thirty more

we need to take away from this guye and they'll help us continue

first we have the idea of the cathedral in my mind is clear

my mind is cleaned

i'm focused

my mind has been clensed

and we're ready to get back to the

untain

this is probably best understood as the ruling socio political idiological apparatus

more bug put it as

the party of the educational organs at whose head is the press and the universities this is our twentieth century version of the established church

ldbug also explicitly associates all of this with leftist politics

leading to a new reactionary position

or neo reactionary position

which nickland characterizes with flight from the ruling political idiological apparatus

which means in essence

a flight from democracy itself

okay

as lance says

for the hard corre nr reactionaries

democracy the fog

are you trying to get me banned

what a fuck is this

this wek keep that same energy keep that same energy

keep that same energy you we'll see

keep that same energy

keep at same energy

is not merely doomed

it is doom itself

fleeing it approaches an ultimate imperative

political alternatives often offered to the cathedral are things like neo cameralism

which is a return to some form of market based nobility

or

second we have patchwork

which molbug describes as

replacement of crappy goverments with

a global spider weeb of tens even hundreds of thousands of sovereign

independent miny countries

each governed

she has only fans you're not the first

the pogu bits

r by its own joint stock corporation

and without regard to its residents opinions

rather than have your right to have your saying government or electing government officials

he instead have the right

hey what do you want me to do ok

to choose between

you want me to go think circu

a theoretical smorgas board of political organizations

and you can move to any of them

rather than vote

i'll think zerka

after this week we'll see what happens this week how about that

you leave

does this sound incredibly idealistic

probab

anyways i'm not all that interested in your reactionary theory

i'm interested in acceleration of them

so that's all you're going to get here

go watch the distributors for more if the

this sounds like your kind of thing his rundown on mold bug is much better than anything i can give you

so nick land runs into this idea of neo reactionary theory

and he runs hard with it

he goes full reactionary aldwig

starts in with some strangely pessimistic dysgenic i q shredder stuff and finally took up his new philosophical mantle

the twitter shit post

okay

oay i don't want to see his tweets these tweets are like gonna be t us

um

latina all i could say is you have very tough competition right now that's all i could say that competition is very very

you really have to up your game right now i'm sorry

what

and it's not my fault either i had no part in this

i had no part in it either but

youve really got up your game

because

child has set the bar very high

in terms of

back to this um

coin and one of his other book chi right now shy is all talk

that's the truth right now she's all talk oka

so we'll see after this week what she's really about

but right now my attitud my view is that chi is just all talk

blogs urban futures

overall his shift has been away from the overtly occult angle

towards a more universal idea of intelligence production

something he feels a should this is ourkan

guess what

you are comne

so who's ok who's going to step in to get pay tribute to the con then you are

ok

that's what i thought

don't complain

conan's got to eat too

the khan's got to eat too

the conkhan's got to eat too

ok

sould be mankind's duty to foster

basically he's disappointed he humanted he havn't gotten it shit together

in order to bring the damn future into existence

it's important to clarify exactly what intelligence means in the concept of accelerationism

because

as land puts it

intelligence explosions

latina stop pretending not to be jealous ok

and it's ok if you're jealous

that's fine

what

wanna b

i don't get it

i don't get it

oh shit

ohh

look guys there's plenty of me to go around oka there's plenty of me to go around

matter of fact

we should all do iral streams together all three of us

that's what i think

we should all three of us

do i rl streams and we can all come together

and make peace

ok

he thinks that the basic schema of intelligence

can be diagrammed through game theory

the more intelligent a thing

the better it operates

the better it is at witny games

operation and intelligence colaly

there's a mem i sometimes see out there that

why is your chat acting like a bunch of virgin thirteen year olds

im chat all getting a haircut tomorrow

true everyone go gets a haircut

m

the capital of sentient

which it's actually a mean land never said that as far as i know

sentiences the ability to feel

to perceive to experience

land doesn't actually think the measure of intelligence artificial or not

is determined by feeling

that's consciousness

land wants to talk about artificial intelligence

not artificial consciousness

this is another challenging conclusion of his anti anthropocentrism

we smuggled in the assumption that in order to be truly intelligent you need to be truly conscious

but why do we make that assumption

are we assuming all intelligence in the universe must feel in the same way that we do

and if we take away this assumed subjectivity

call it

acephalic ai or something

it's not absurd to see how markets manufactured

the ache of fail symbol always scares me

sort of intelligy even though there's no nudity in it

the

the very nature of capitalism's ability to operate through even the most severe crises is all the evidence you need

remember game theory

capitalism will always win the game even when we change the rules

you know

the problem is that

from the very beginning of capitalism

people had this hope

you know oh it's approaching it's s and let's push it a little bit further

and i found this quite comical like marx described capitalism and for marks capitalism was close to its end approaching the the graation

then lenning said ok now imperialism the last stage

then

have a century later a mouseter don't says

s

post what what do imperial leave them it's imperial leave them capitalism in the iest last roting state and so on

then we post modernings in this new culture you

thank

for over one century this story goes on

we think capitalism exposed to its limit but it

it's like an m thata

vampire or whatever it

youurn stronger and stronger

so in young land we mostly get a descriptive account of accelerations

most of the practice comes in the form of critique

not positive political formations

in old land however

we have a tendency toward seeing accelerationism as needing our help in some way

as if

accelerationism needs bootstrapping of right wing political practices in order to help it achieve its goals

this is what we will call in the rundown

or act

or right accelerationism

this is a form of accelerationist practice that wants to see capital take over

but only in a particular way

it can perhaps be called protective accelerationism

as it wishes to act as a bulwark in order to protect capital against its potentials

this beudo is kind of boring i wished there was a good

video exp this isn't this re kind of boring guys

we should just move to next po i wanted to finish this but

the videosn't boring

it's plainly just fucking boring

now here's my question isextpo to s

is next po to o s and we are going to watch some twin peaks videos down the line

what is next pot to s

no

there's no to us

we're going to watch some like twin peak's analysis videos

later like tomorrow or maybe the day after

but we're actually going to

plaase do some next foll

um

the microfor is now restarted

i'll restart the micro server restart it

mhm

yeah we're

you're going to

hold on give me a second

okay um

i'm just dealing with some distractions

give me a second

the sortest to protect me ok

this sword is to protect me from all

satanic

sports

all satanic thoughts

oh my god

zero

this is literally a pg thirteen o

chat

you can't youus say that

you can't just save that shit

el myo our relevant has more viewers than me on average

yeah because he doesn't have his own content

he just reacts to other streamers

if and he also has a consistent schedule

that's the thing

also has the consistent schedule if i have a consistent schedule

hes was proven this week

i can average seven eight hundred easily it's piss easy

okay

but

i don't want to be like our relevance and be like a fucking

leach little bitch you know

latina you're alive

why do you have a present for me

me see

h

oh my god

did someone in latina's chad give me a sob

oh my god i too

jeesus hold on give me sedond

thank you tepid

we're going to watch the clt in a boarding school but it's fifty two minutes these are

let's watch let's watch a

let's watch a shorter one it's called the reditor that vanished we're going to watch that one

it's called the reditor that vanished

um

we go don't watch that one

the raditor that vanished

ok

there's something about mysteries rooted oh she we turn the light off

then we should turn ofuf the light oup

let's get spooky gus

you don't write it that simply fascinate me

the variety of daily users from all walks of life

congregating on one single public forum has created a sense of community that's nearly unmatched in the current online landscape actually yes if i do not pause at all

then

we are

then i get

five hundred dollars

because of this the website's given us the ability to look into our fellow editors post histories okay starting now if i do not

if i completely just watch start to finish and i don't pause

i get

one hundred subs

one hundred subs

okay

start to finish

giving us a small peek into the lives they live oftentimes these are mostly mundane however if you do a bit of digging you'll find some that stand anomalous abandoned and forever embedded within the corner they carved online in twenty seventeen a user named flipp and flop made a post explaining that they're eager to try out a drug by the name of detera while the initial response was

greatly against it flipp andflop ignored their advice and did it anyway creating disturbing update comments and leaving behind baffled onlookers that feared the worst had happen to them this is the story of flipp and flop a editor that vanished

our mystery begins on the r slash drug sub reredit

on the night of april seventeenth of twenty seventeen flippenflop would jump in with the simple question finally got my hands on some detura how much should i take their post reads the following

hi guys i finally got some deterent to try out i'm free tomorrow and have the house to myself so i'm really excited to try the effects of this interesting plant i have around sixty seeds some dried flowers and leaves how much should it take for a nice first time trip i was thinking of crushing up x seeds and making tea with them drink the tea and smoke a couple of leaves while the tea starting to take effect what fifteen seeds be enough source

on the internet tell me a regular dose is around ten to twenty but i've seen some talk about over thirty seeds thanks guys after this thread when live the overwhelming majority of commenters expressed caution

warning that if they were to do it it could have permanent lifelong effects and can even cause death

a user named recht recalled their prior experience with detura claiming that they are still scarred from its in hopes of deterring the o p from giving it a tdry i bought two detura inoxia plants from a local greenhouse and ate and smoked both of them over the course of about two weeks i never noticed too many effects initially dry eyes and mouth hot flesh skin rapid heartbat but i was one hundred per cent in a state of psychosis that whole time

and for about two weeks after i stopped using it like someone here said it's a deliriant so i wasn't even aware of how totally fucked i was my friends got increasingly worried about me and i finally broke down mentally about a month later i got diagnosed with generalized anxiety disorder and severe panic disorder with dear realization and depersonalization while the effects felt by wrecked were severe another commenter share

that it's not always the case according to a logarithm the great they claim that the potency of the drug can vary from person to person and even sometimes through the time of day it's taken after reading this i went forth and cross checked their claim with the psychedelic education resource named the third wave dot com and found that while the time of day assertion isn'tsubstantiated deters so called fatal dose

ranges pretty widely according to this guide a dose as small as one hundred milligrams of dry seeds have been known to kill while others have taken substantially more than that and lived

considering how heavily any drug's effects can vary from person to person this declaration isn't that surprising however it is noteworthy

so

how many seeds should flip and flop take

exactly zero

none

i hope this is a ship post

good luck and report back please

best effects will be achieved by doing none of it i believe throw that faking hell in the garbage

sounds pretty unanimous

let's see how they took it

update

i've crushed some seeds around fifteen to sixteen in my mortar and put them in a glass of water i've added some lemon juice and sugar to mask the taste i'll just have to roll my joint with the deura leaves and i'll be set to go i've decided i'll be sippin on the tea and slowly smokin the leaves until i feel the effect is strong enough of course

after this comers were questioning why they wouldd subject themselves to such a dangerous substance they were wished good luck and were given advice for the phenomenon that they were about to experience for flipp andflop it was the point of no return the train left the station and they were on a one way track to the inevitable consequences of detura

it was at this point that commenters were tuned in everyone knew what was about to happen however hope for the best remained abundant remind me posts well wishes and questions on an update flooded the space and at least in that moment all eyes were on the op

five fifty five in the morning

april eighteenth of twenty seventeen

google dot com how normal again stop now

what needless to say everyone's concerns were validated however it was good to know that the op was still alive the replies here were mostly well wishes with a clear mood of apprehension a user named emilsko pleded for the o p to reply to the thread when things became normal again and another named pest p gave their two cents on the matter as well

they explained that they'd ordinarily reassure the op that they're going to be ok however considering the unpredictable nature of the substance and their own personal experience its a troll only aren't any guarantees

five fifty eight in the evening

nearly exactly twelve hours later

what you're looking at is a jiff posted by a reditor named nitris in the gaming sub reredit it's allegedly depicting mammoths and an accurates battle simulator yeah they nailed that one

so why are we here should i get this game because someone we know very should i buy this game right now their way to this post specifically should i buy this game right now please these big dog i can't pause the video i by right now it appears to me that flipp and flops trying to cliimb that please these big dogs are fighting not ok with the big dogs of

course being their interpretation of the mammoths and that jeff from being honest it's safe to say that flip and flops discovery of this post likely didn't do them any favors depictions of an animal quite literally launching another one in the air while under the influence of something as unpredictable as detera would probably mess me up pretty badly that's just my guess unfortunately

after this post though flip and flop would never return their thread continued to rack up comments pleading for any sort of updates however through all of this fear remained abun i sd the pay for this game at the worst and

you may say

ok submint

i'm going to don sadly most of the search results surrounding the user name flip and flop aren useful i was hoping to dig up accounts that they might have migrated to on other website i bought it frustratingly did got to gain much is twenty dollar in the surface web is an uphill battle we can find a considerable amount of posts asking about him however concrete answers to that

are non existent there was a flipp and flop with one p account i found that could have been a potential lead however considering that the last post they made was eight years ago on the no fat forum it's needless to say that i was only left with dead ends speaking of dead ends the following is a list of accounts and their current status i found on other websites what

name flip and flop imagor dead facebook dead stumble upon dead photo bucoket dead reredit dead clothes maaster doesn't work to ring it dot net dead baby blog aor you this is getting weird is my t v flickering ot all the picture by this point the name is surprisingly common and the results increase tenfold once you fund

in the other spelling of flip and flop brute forcing our way in at tracking this person down is only going to result and wasted time in a massive headache so i'm going to pause my search here and pivot my focus towards the actual drug he took because my curiosityes peaked what even is deura how serious really is it and is it actually as fatal as it's made out to be to answer that

i made my way to a nonprofit educational resource by the name of arrowit dot org that specializes in providing information about various psychoactive plants and chemicals in their entry about detera they claim that it's a woody stalked leafy herb growing up to two meters it produces spiny seed ponds and large white or purple trumpet shaped flowers that face upward most parts of the plant contain

ropinepollamane and hig acyamane and that's a long history of use in both south america and europe and is known for causing delirious states and poisonings and uninformed users this definition got me curious on the effects of atrophine spoamane and hiocamane and so i dug a bit further according to arrowid these are known as tropane alkaloids capable of producing extreme psychoactive effects

including disorientation confusion hallucinations delusions panic and more furthermore the resource states that in this class of hallucinogens namely users are absolutely convinced that the hallucinations and delusions are in every sense real and may attempt to interact with them this can range from amusing to dangerous

i see this almost leads me to wonder what kind of experience flipp andflop had since they can vary pretty widely as we know by this point an update from their aftermath is non existent and at this time we have yet to gather a detailed first hand account about a deter trip so what is it really like

a user on a website named steamen dot com shared their story about three years ago in their post they claim that they had taken about eight dried seeds and were eager to experience the effects after doing somediately met with extreme thirst causing their quotes mouth to dry up in a horribly scary way the dose in which you get active effects is extremely close to the amount needed

for a fatal overdose following this they share in detail what it was they went through after about an hour i felt a weird mix of euphoria and dysphoria and had a bizarre sense of fun to its as reality and imagination blended to form one it gave me a very tricky feeling which was at the time chilling and scary after quite

a long time maybe two hours i felt poisoned as i can't remember how i acted or how i perceived the world exactly i felt like i was dying honestly i thought it was quite a good way to pass outs everything felt surreal and i definitely had some weird hallucinations which at the time felt realistic and normal i went to bed and went to sleep quickly i had a really weird dream in which something that looked like the moth man was chasing me and i had to combat it with a

lot of weapons that were homemade as i did the creature became outrageous that's all i remember from the events the next morning i experienced deepersonalization photophobia depression anxiety and a horrible hangover that lasted more than a week this substance is just now worth it jumping over to a website named

psycho not wiki dot org we can observe yet another deter a story from twenty twelve while this person's accounts is incredibly detailed one section stood out to me reading the following about fifteen to twenty minutes after downing the potion i was already feeling very drunk and distended from my body i hadn't even stood up for my original seats i was just battling nausea

so i've been fighting an incredible urge to purge since the first step and considering the sheer intensity of the confusion i so i was abandoning the idea that i was going to peacefully meditate myself into another plane of thoughts i didn't even make it to the bathroom i purged right back in the pot i prepared my brewen before i even got a chance to stand up i might be paranoid but i think this may have saved my life i faded out of memorable consciousness after stumbling

to the bathroom the fade seem to happen quite a bit i'll slip in in and out of consciousness with detera i still seem to function while i'm outs as opposed to the more familiar nod associated with opiates with an opiate i wake up right where i faded out but with detera i wake up in a room i don't remember walking into in the middle of doing things or talking to people and contexts that don't make any sense

en similar to a drunken psychosis now it doesn't take much more of an explanation to understand why flipp and flops actions were ill advised considering the claim from steamits about the fatal dose being incredibly close to the one in which you feel the effects combined with the possibility that flipp and flop didn't have anyone with them to make sure he was ok it all seemed like a perfect storm

of what not to do when trying out a substance for the first time as a matter of fact in some ways it almost seemed like too perfect of a storm

what on this page stands out to you

as a bed

in genuine

here

i'll give you a hant

the profile was created on april seventeenth the very same day that their one and only post was made being entrenched in the world of internet mysteries observations like this stand out to me like a sore thumb it appears to me that this account was made for the sole reason of discussing their story about trying to tura while they potentially could be separating this from their personal accounts

and life due to the taboo nature of something like this it unfortunately discounts the validity of their entire account furthermore the fact that they used a throwaway profile for this post explains the lack of other social media or forum handles with the name flip and flop existing online without any sort of hint at their location their main account or their interests tracking down the actual person and cross

checking a potential case record

is impossible

don't get me wrong here while i'm entertaining the idea that this could be found po it the sequence of events that took place no n credence no its being real no if we look at the post it was made at five twenty one p m central on april seventeenth of twenty seventeen over the course of the next twenty six minutes flip and flop would go from asking about trying it to having it prepared

if we're considering the potential that their mind was made up on doing it and they had everything on hand is video su time for you have to finish furthermore considering the fact that they made their first video s at five fifty five in the morning at no point was i interested in you cr trip all night dros falling in and out of consciousness if they reside in the u s then getting up that early

just to post an update comment about your fake story seems like a bit of a stretch i mean we've seen determination like this before but something about this comment really drives this story home

looking back i suppose i entertain the idea of this being fake because i guess i just really hope it is i hope there wasn't a loss of life after flippinflop's curiosity led them to try a dangerous substance i really hope we're all being bamboozled by a poster that simply wanted to me meark for evolusting their creation within redit is calledmino

but

that's something that at this point in time unfortunately can't be answered ohre going to check that up am

okay

the r slash drug subcredits lit up in april of twenty seventeen much to the credit of flip and flop

to night's we were able to learn about detura while exploring a morbid mystery involving one person whose curiosity got the best of them whether their story is real or fake it's difficult to argue the fact that it was effective

getting people talking sharing well wishes and crossing their fingers for an eventual update as we know by this point that update never materialized and so we're all here existing as onlookers and hoping for the slightest possibility that they made it through their experience alve much like all of you i truly hope they're still with us but as we all know

the only person that would be able to confirm that is the one that's vanished without a this crowd leaders a bunch of cool videos into internet history okay

thanks so much for watching

i'll see you when the next one

i love you all

and good night can iight is it over it's over right it's over

um

i know he has better videos

i've watched way better videos than that but i only chose that one to do a short

and the reason i chose the short one

as a matter of fact

the reason

i chose

the short one

you don't have to give me a hundred sbars

you don't have to do that

um

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he's live right now

everyone get an ehminabo pee

and um

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i'm going to pee we're going to do this

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i guess there was a moment were

i guess what i'm going to have to say if i want to say that it's the case that like you did a less convincing job than boch

on that board

or he debated valsh

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interesting

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a general statements sor my microphone probably just peak

he took that general statement

about like

how the left kind of fails generally

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she specified it to your scenario and your criticism of las

ren't

wash

hasson

where you said something to the effect or not you said something the effect of

you

said that hasan has this kind of obligation

to do some amount of fundraising some amount of donation

cetera

so

uh sorry

um

i'm getting distracted by the chat i'm and actually

yeah don't don't get distracted by them oh no

i know i know the rules are like we're not

like getting destrabed by people is dumb i just

did it

i

he took

that general statement i know i'm wining back a little bit he took that general statement

and he specified it

to like the thing you were talking about

which was just that had like a higher obligation here

and he thought

that that

would plausibly cause a son

to like

be less participatory in the movement

which

seems to be true if you accept the general statement

so if you if you accept the general view

that the higher standards the left imposes upon people how long is this shit going to go on

and i can try and argue for that a little bit no i i even believe i conceded to that in the conversation that it's going to push people away i'm going to call and just think that the people that it pushes away i'm calling you not super concerned with here we i'm a calling

cavolling you right now

i'm sorry give me a second go that's not yout rid that i believe that increasing the standards on anything is going to push you remove me as a red leave that right this is what i was appeal to even was it the argument of not saying the n word right and like he kind offt but that's on ironically like a philosophy of isn't it like chapel trapows

that they just say whatever the fuck they want

and they're like what is it the scum dirt bag left or whatever i'm not sure if it's them specifically i' nots er common town or what have you but some chat can can correct me if i'm wrong there's people on the left

who like believe that you can say whatever the fuck

you want

right whatever the fuck you want

thank

um

and it doesn't matter

ah

and that can absolutely attract more people

one hundred percent

but i also think that there are

you know

negatives to that right there are

takes that you can

gif after that gift

in regards to

on political advocacy or what have you being at a higher bar like fundraising when you make

over a million dollars in discretionary income because again there was an open conversation

like he said like what if i said the bar at ten million and i remember this specifically i was like

okay

that's fine like if you set the bar at ten million i just want to make sure that we're you know having the same conversation that we have some moral obligations for some people

that we hold some people to some kind of standard we need standards

you know

and so

i think it's really important

to be able to

to have that be the case maybe you

or you know of the position that i didn't argue for that properly in the conversation and you know maybe you're right

well yes so at leas my position

ya sure so so i'll just i'll just confirm

tooth

i'll confirm that i think that you didn't argue for it

that convincingly in the conversation

and

too i just want to specify like i don't hold like a super strong position about this i don't i don't really side with

vosh abot much of anything

young

with with respect

to what you said there

maybe you could say in the general case it's true to have a strategy like this would be good

because you push people who aren't willing to commit to the movement

and maybe you galvanize people who are willing to commit to the movement

so they're behave more he's so scared hollly fought i he's scared shitless thank you to these marxist there

you know thyk you studious marxis we're actually going to do this tonight we're doing this tonight so i don't think we're going to do this andnight we're doing this andight i can criticize

for instance something of a craz we're doing this tonight selecting its happening out of the

right like your own

you're not saying that some people can't join

but you are going to

pressure some people who aren't

like desirable

how would i be

pressuring themuth

you're a way you're talking about in effect i would push people out is that what you're saying y

yes yes

yes of course i was saying like i would deliberately try and get them out

no yeah of course i'm just saying that it's yeah

of course i'm going to catch people are going to leave

the movement as a result of

yeah which isn't a criticism it's just a thing that

fact

a factor exactly and you're taking that trade off because you think in the general case maybe you'll galvanize some people in favor of you whatever you think there are some positive up

do i have this basic

correct

yeah

awesome

so the

thing is maybe that'll work in the general

but the problem is you you were arguing for the

on

now i'm i'm eble to say that if you accept like the general argument

that this type of thing will

push

people out of the movement

that

why that will apply to hassan

didn't you already wck him why again

because we know that he got wrecked

but i want to make d g g know

beyond reasonable doubt right and all you have to do in a debate to destroy someone

is just

not yell apparently so we're going to we're going to give him the sansal treatment

and i'm just gonna sl i'm literally just going to do this for my own satisfaction okay

because these people think that you lose the debate when you yell

so i'm actually going to debate him i'm not going to yell

of potential bood

don't pussy out on me guys we are going to destroy him in front of all of twitch tonight

and if he bitches up from the debate tonight

he' conceded to me already and he fegten lost

it'd be the same as me winning victory

i want to at least do one of two things

one of two things

debaate him tonight and falking destroy him so his own schad knows

youur

get him to admit fath was well chat that he's too scared of debaatey

one of the two things i'm getting on tonight

what is

i mean

i don't i don't think that was really vocus point because like that's very

tailored to it has sw specific

as a person

i was making a more prescription aou people with

and again i must have said it ten to fifteen times i don't want to be specific about just asson

what i'm trying to say what the reason why is spring morning off of a s on specifically is because when you have that amount of resources that amount of capability that freedom

right that agency that you're provided with that amount of resources i believe you are afforded

is not only more power but also more responsibility and obligations with that power

and i think that

making that power of

i'm going to debate him tonight

period

is important

it's happening tonight

alert

the discord

that's what we're doing

why hassan's intuitions about the way to treat hassan

seemed more plausible

and

the the reason that i think like you guys might have arrived here if you'd kind of challenged him down this route

is just that

he defended the general case problem of like pushing people out of the movement so presumably he thinks that applies to hassan

i'm just applying it to hassan and seeing how that logic runs out

the intuition seems true it seems like if you accept the general folk a even talking about nothing a whole bunch of nothing

you're talking about a whole bunch of nothing

he genuinely looks scared i'm looking at our relevant right now he genuinely looks scared

i wonder what he's going to do he's en going to debate me tonight

or tell his viewers he's too scared to debate me

one of the two

one of the two

he is more intelligent than me he beats ah

five

a relevant beat vousch write a relevant verse vousch

as if it's hard to beat voz where did he beat voz by the way

adriana i tried calling you okay

you didn't pick up

things that are required for like

you know don't murder and don't rape i think we're

where di they debate

where did they debate

look th his foot

i'm high on life

listeny just dreamed it

this and hes bakbilities and stuff

resources w

i was awaiting

so

i

i

i just kind of wanted greater clarification

on some of the

okay so guys let me know when o relevance done talking to this person because we're going to watch this

let me know when they're done talking that person in the meantime we're going to watch this

let me know

adriana

these ideas because i think that's hes a beta strimmer

the get that's missing

each other's just geting when it comes i love each other

so like

um i think there's a lot of people that might

think that

some people's opinion who might be advocating that we do more with the resources we have are saying like socialism is when no house or socialism is when poor

um

and like

and i don't really i feel like this is kind of missing

missing the we're missing each other im

oh ya okay so

i at least and want to come from a position of

like

i think that we could be doing more when we have an excess of resources and i think we ought to be doing more in order to further political causes in order to bettering you know our community and stuff like that and to my knowledge

you you are of the position that this is more of a

for you know all the dank means that might get posed a superraqatory position

more than anything like it would be nice for us to do this but we have no moral obligation how long thates debate go on by the way

and to go out of our way to do like

a lot of like let's say funding of canvassing or what have you if we're a political streamer or what have you and we have excess resources correct yeah

well i think it's good if we do it of course it seems odd to me um

the idea whether we're talking about ideology or access to reshift our moral framework

for for what a person should be expected to do

not just like in accordance with what they could do

but also like

how we how we treat that conversationally would a us to put it another way you know

if a person is a i guess we have to use this is a as an example but

if a person like makes their living advocating for socialist shit on social media you know and keep doing it over and over gets really stressful doing it makes a lot more money at what point do they switch from being a positive

representation for the movement because of what they're advocating for to being a negative one

because they spend too much of their money on houses or whatever i think there's a really like ambiguous gradient there and the best th sure can really do is we can just encourage defending ason let me see how long agosle to do as much as possible with

um i don't want to

it's a tack hole

i don't have he being bad

ok si how many make that me

look how long the debate went

i been misrepresenting our positions it's not about what we agree on but what we spend our time doing

you know

yah

i i'm assuming that's supposed to be a job at me no no that would be that would be destining

oh okay it's a reason why people expect blood whenever we meet each other at a conference but it turns out honestly these two are such little bitches

like they have these little jabs at each other in shit

and they just

are't this in box

they have so much passive aggressive

just animosity towards one another like

everythiing

nre you

nine

oh destiny

oh vouch i didn't expect to see you here

oh destiny

you are looking quite exhausted from your lack of logical capacities of intellectual capacity

ah yes vous i see you have a

not understood the axioms of the systemic analysis of statistical througout yes just a fuck up you pt about the biggest bitches on the platform

they're both the biggest

soe

streamers on which they have the most soy communities on which their communities are fuck and identical and i'm sick of acting like there's a real conflict

between destiny and vosh there's no real conflict

this is the bunch of passive aggressive

bickering between two bickering aslow bitches

i'm sing of both of them

voh came from destiny hassan came from destiny why does everyone think destiny's the good guy

when all these streamers hassan wvaush

came from destiny

think

end his dream came fro he destiny

with that being the case still talking about nothing

capital owner i now get woken up to socialism

right

and what have you

i'm

you know

the crushing reality of the past comes down on me and the new inevitability of the future comes down on me

i believe

that if i continue running my capitalist organization the way that i've recognized is like destroying people's lives that that is worse

when it comes to

on the the individual action in the rules that we ought to what

but bide by that is worse because i am knowingly doing it in malice

and i'm setting up you precedent that we ough do things in malice if i continue doing it or that it's moreally permissible to do so in comparison to when i was ignorant

because i didn't know any better

right so that's why it would hold us to different standards that's why i would hold conservatives

and sock thems to different standards because i am generally speaking

working with

what i would consider to be the tenets

of social democrat social democrats and saying that you probably understand what bootstrap that bootstrap means are kind of shit

right i think that's fair to say

that most people on the left

know that bootstrap means are fucking nonsense

ay yar so so

so i think i understand what you're no i think i understand what you're aiming at so i'll rearticulate again what you were saying and then i'll see if i

i can articulate a criticism

another irrelevant saga no

we just want to catch him tonight

beause he's streaming at early hours usuly streams like five hours ahead of time so he's streaming early tonight so i want to catch him tonight

yes

so people on the left are aware of the fact that you cited this as an example

the the idea of like picking yourself up by the bootstraps is false so it's not actually really possible for someone to follow re por

to pick themselves up

quote unquote i like the bootstraps

because there might be factors that prevent them from doing soight altogether

and so that

higher understanding of

how the world works

confers on them a

higher moral response

so

they have a responsibility to behave differently

in virtue of that di he say he'd debate me

um

if he doesn't he's telling his jaddis a bit

so he has to

you can't just stall his jat oh

this guy' haws is ready to debate and he's ready to go in

i'm just going to dodge it and avoid it

you can't say that

or else thank you chris aor else i just want to instill the message loud and clear to like everyone that this guy runs away from me from debates

that's it either he's going to debate me or i'm going to gain the ability

show everyone

how he runs away from debates for me now

keep in mind i don't re from no one

i do't run from nowhere

okay

i don't think that vosh is going to hold some view that like

hassan shouldn't be donating his money

that's why he's citing examples of like the vegetarian and vegan

it' examples he mes that you ought be behaving so

but i'll just i just want to

but he's citing those examples because he does think people have a responsibility morally to behave that

but

what he's

saying is that

holding them to account for doing that like socially pressuring them for behaving to behave in a different way

by publicly holding them accountable

is

undesirable because it's going to push them out of the movement

so proof of that just really quick really quick

is proof of that is a the vegetarian case so people who are vegetarian frequently don't go vegan

because

you know

it's they just

art

convinced that they should

and when they feel like in this person shut the fuck up no one cares about anything they have to say

and they're just wasting time these are the people who try to come on my show when they didn't in the they just talk

don't let them on my fuckon show that's why all relevance viewers are bored as fuck

his whole chat is begging to get unbanned because they want to actually be in a stream that's entertaining and high energy

and doesn't have all these fucking boring people

which he is one of

by the way

incmparable like political

power

the left

so none of what you were saying was actually like mutually exclusive with what he said

and i have textual evidence by which i mean

evidence formed of the things he said

to suggest he doesn't really disagree with it

it's just that he disagrees the should be i'm go it owll lights

right so when i gave this example he disagreed with that you did see that though right

he disagreed with it how he did

so the example that was

um

i posed was that

the exact example i gave you the capital owner

and that the capital owner

has

who is a conservative has a greater or less

a moral responsibility

to be able to act with that information than the leftist

and his argument was

well both of it is bad

and so i don't think it's less bad or more bad

if

it comes from a socialist or a a

conservative

oh yeah i understand what he means by that or i think i have like an understanding of what he means

so

what vosh could say and

this is another weird this isn't even like incumbent on you to figure out what he means

im

i hate doing this because by being this charitable i'm also kind of changing what he's saying

but

what i took it doeses this doesn't even have to matter because you could seal man his argument you know you don't have to like try to

do that sure but but the claim i'm making is that like i don't think you did well in your debate against him in the sense i do think he delivered a better argument so if i suman him by like making a new argment that's i under i understand i understand your point going go on

sure so

what i

can you repeat your point i lost the train fors yes so my bet on that so that's f voh

specifically was talking to

m

how

he believes the the

moral position

isn't different because the outcomes aren' any different right i understand i remember so vosh can delineate between what

what i would call a responsibility

and between like an actual moral outcome

so if you're a utilitarian i'm just going to reduce to act utilitarianism here because

hate real utilitarianism i think it reduces to act utilitarianism and it sounded like wash admitted that in a debate a long while ago but that's irrelevant i actually disagree with that and maybe that we're going to find some contention here because

i think it ays come with that

we you think sh is a real utilitarian

he state no no no i believe he stated that he wasn't

yh he stated he reduced himself to an act

right and so what i'm stating though is i don't believe that rual utilitarianism reduces itself into act utilitarianism

yeah you could make arguments about how life

i don't know

a rule could bring symboliz thats a more perfect

i'm getting one of two things tonight i'm getting one of two things tonight what i understand

i'm getting one of two things tonight

sorry so so voh could delineate between the responsibility that a given person has and actual moral condition

so you might imagine

we might imagine two worlds

one in which someone is repeatedly pressing a button over and over again

you have that kills four hundred people let's say you

in first world they're aware of it in the second world they're not

yup

and then you could ask is there a moral difference between the two and because he holds that utility is the morally relevant

thing

he'll hold that in the first case the case where the person is

just

hitting the button knowingly

and the second case where the person is s in button unknowingly i'm make you suffer i'm going to give you content

i'm going to give you debate content

that's what he means and again it's in line with how he talks about philosophy should be thanking me and be grateful

terran he is now

so yeah i would just say

that like

that may be the case or what have you but i would make fierce arguments

about how we ought to uphold

a rule or a standard

with which people abide by in order to make sure

that people

adhere to that like moral like

standard because i think the way

that he was arguing it was like

well

if you set these moral standards how are you going to impose them on other people

and it's like yeah that's a difficult question there's a whole multitude of answers but we need to have these moral standards if we don't have these moral standards people do whatever the fuck they want

that's not true

nothing holding them

to like doing anything

right whatsoever

and it's moreal standards that i think

that govern

honestly the difference any material difference

between any of the political affiliations

it mean that's not fucking trugh at all that's the most stupid shit i've ever fucken heard

if you do nothing like about it if you have no moral standards to abide by it if you do nothing materially about it it means absolutely nothing

the difference between a conservative

and a socialist

is meaningless

if both do nothing

well

so

so there that's also not true

he's goinga chick him out

why do you think he's going to chicken out i don't i don't know if he's going to chick out that's the thing

that's why i'm waiting because

it's gotta be hard to like tell your chat no i'm not debating this guy

i'll bring on any coller who's awake right now but

not this guy i'm going to run away from this guy

he thinks he's above you

well then he can think what he wants but i just want to see if he's actually going to tell his chat

that he's going to avoid me because this chat wants the debate

you know what i'm saying i know what i'm doing guys

i really just want to see at that moment where he's like

you know what i'm not going to debate infrared infrared is toxic

i'm not going to give him attention

and

you know i'man it's not responsible platforming even though he has a

three hundred more viewers than me

and effectively i'm the one platforming him

but how can i get him to agree i don't have to it's a win either way

if he refuses to debate i win

if he debates me

he fock

he's superfux

right

so

ah

yeah i win either way

power and therefore be able to do more good

and the reason he seems convinced of that

is because

the right

to

even you agree have like less facts on their side or whatever

they're less or they're more capable of holding like a large movement or they're equally capable of holding a large movement because they don't push people out of their movement he said as much in the debate

time

so

unless you have a retort to his intuition or a reason to believe your intuition over them

you both i'ming to call me ain grind out to zero

mccm again that it's the case

that vsh is wrong in his intuitions that

the movements will generate more utility by having just more people in them not yours

continue no i if i understand

um

and you think that there will be more utility harm or loss invert me as a d wrong principles that everybody move me

now the only thing you guys can move me as a friend argue about whose intuition seem more plausible and when i want to be i can't call again your movie as a friend like your view

or i was actually watching it from

but whatever he bed me he bed me

well we bean me from the chat ok that's a concession with bos that's a concession and i

had see that's a concession totuition that's all i wanted en all i wanted was that concession

which

you granted

ok particularized all i wanted was the concesshion didn't pick up on a reason not to

grant there all i wanted was the concessions saw it as being the case that it was more plaus ale i wanted was the concessions that's all i wanted

going to be good

so is anyone have any doubt about who want a general i think there was a massive misunderstanding there

right

the point my point isn't that you can't do any of the things that you stated he could do

my point what

yeah

so

is there any doubt now

does anyone have any doubt no i'm kind of tempted to rate him i'm kind of tempted to rate him

i'm kent attempting to id are relevant now

yeah dude is actually a pussy for real andan actual pussy

i'm kind of tempted to raid this guy now

but i'm not gonna because that'll be tors

you know i can't do that

not a lot to do that

m

indisputable victory simple as that

okay i i

there's no fuck in dout

there's absolutely no doubt so i want to run back and explain to you why our relevant is scared to debate

a p released an article showing that there is no oigo to genocide

they literally are just admitting it now

and

that they're all all of these e running scared because they just don't want to confront us

um

yeah this guy's fucking scared shitless of me

m

i've heard

from a little grapevine

that he's editing the video between me and him to release

i'm going to go ahead and leak this

we already edited the debate ourselves

we already edited the debate

so the minute i hear that he uploads the debate

we're uploading it on our channel

is i'm going to wait

his it'll be best for our algorithm if he uploads it first right

he's banning all mentions of you

the tickets

what a pusssy

what of fuck and pussye

guys

the debate

with all relevance

right

when we uttowed this on youtube most of you didn't see the debate

ok

most of you saw the part where i was yelling at the end

and the part where i got mad at zerka

and builk those parts

make it seem like i lost

to someone who didn't see any of the debate

because i'm yelling you all i of you yell that means you're mad you lost

and if i'm mad at zerka it's because

he didn't carry me through the debate even though i yelled at tzerka

because he shot me in the foot

at the end

at the very end he shot me in the foot

ok

there was six hours

and we edited it so you could see all of the actual things we debated about

and there is absolutely

remember the perception talk yeah

there's absolutely no falking doubt

that anyone can say he won

is is

people ran with this idea that i lost

becuuse the was six hours and no one fuck and watched it

so we edited it down to like an hour

to get all of the actual arguments and you're going to see who fuckin

won or who lost

okay

i still stand by

my original position from the very beginning

and i was so shocked

that people spun that narrative

because at that point by the end like

i almost felt bad for him

that's how much i had him routed

okay

by the end of that shit

i had em so fuckin i smacked m around so fuckin much

that by the end of it at that point i was like ok what next

cause i beat you and i'm still mad

like when kabib beat macgregor and he was still mad

and he jumped out of the fucking ring

that's me

i'm st it's like i was still mad i had beaten him

five and a half hours ask me what have i e been doing this five and a half hours

well i stay up i stayed up till two pm doing the shit i was mad

youn'tin like i beat this guy

and who's going to pay now who's going to pay up

you know what i'm saying

now who's going to pay for it

but anyway

i can't damn doode

that's a really bad look whatever

sure

happing to ba me

m

that's a really bad look

n g l that's a really bad look

that's just

yikes

yikes

mega ykes

do you have any other life besides twitch

yes

it involves your mom

every single day

every single day

and i'm not talking about like

once every three days

once every week

i'm talking of heut every single day

every single fackon day

okay

yeah it's like saying to be lost because he jumped out of the ring

you have to understand

us middle easterners or whatever the fuck you want to call it

we have khabib's ten temperament

which means we get angry even when we win

we get fucking angry

we get angry

because our time is wasted and we feel like even when we win in terms of the rules

we still have

some justice to an act like we have

he s we still need something to exact from our opponent

even after we win

it's not enough to win according to the rules

i'm jus still mad you know what i mean

we're mad because why were we here in the first place

the beotle's fucking mad

let me tell you w the beeb was mad

but be trained as fuckan ass off

and there was so much shit talk and anticipation

and there are so much mental

games

macgregor and his team were playing

k you be

he destroys macgregor

so fucking easily

and to be sitting there acting like

what was this all for

all this for that and who was that easy to destroy and wo was that easy to fuck and rat

that's why he was mad he said

what was this all for

that shitt tougked for a while there was nothing behind it

you'd think he was a miraculoar fighter

there's something behind it

try to report me for what for challenging a political stream of a debate

don't go on his chat don't go on his jat

i already said don't go on this chack

you know that's already a given

i've already said that shit

but

that's a given

you know

ok we got a fucking weirdo on the chat goodbye

oll destiny

no i don't want to talk to destiny

i'm sick of destiny

i'm sick of destiny

i don't want nothing to do with destiny

who's friending me

it's a beautiful life

well oh

it's a beautiful life

well

oh

m

i don't i don't i don't really feel like yeah i i don't want to debate destiny again

because

i feel it

asking him to debate is almost like

like i'm asking for a favor at this point do you know what i mean

and

i think destiny at this point needs to come ast to debate me

you know what i mean

why di i find 'sy not ok anymore

because he declared war

destiny declared war

so me and destiny had a non intervention pact

we had a non aggression pack

and

he attacked one of my allies zurka

and zerko was at war with him

and i didn't directly get involved but i was like at a neutral party

going after d g ge the community not destiny personally but the community right

beuse for d g g

and the reason i'm going af i went after d g g let me explain to destiny drama to you

why me and destiny are on bad terms it's as simple as that

did you gee

are the ones who uh

carried are relevant

so when i was fighting our relbant i was fighting all of the g g

right

i don't forget that shit you guys i want to keep in mind the like the

let me give you the sequence of events that we're dealing with here

okay

it seems like i'm a big bully and i'm like this asshole guy

but the truth is

either

in the past i mean i'm joking

i'm debating someone

otherwise

i am an honorable person i keep to myself

and

you know i don't bully anyone i don't

do any of that shit

and over on good terms with destiny

and as far as d g g was concerned i was just indifferent to them right

what

are relevant

decided that

because

i reject the narrative about the or youer genocide in china that it's ok to just personally attack me

just start personally attacking has start getting into the nitty gritty of his life

and just start you know going after me basically right

start you know

just talking shit about him and attacking his character

and you know calling him insecure and whatever

just start psych ar do an armchair psychology all this shit

i didn't throw any stones at them either

i've debated destiny before but we had respectful debates

there's nothing warranted that absolutely nothing warranted that again i haven't bullied anyone in d g g

i haven't bullied anyone almost anyone period

i've dealt with leftists that way like sonds all the rest of them

d g g and destiny

there was nothing irrelevant threugh the first stone

he just started attacking me out of the wild

for nothing yeat he's one of destiny's generals

so this pissed me off and then i it put our relevanceo my radar right

so i went after our relevant and all of g g rallied behind our relevant

so after that at that point

i was enemies of d g g

now when zerka and destiny went to war

zerpah is one of my allies so i'm

joining the war attacking d g g but not destiny right

because me and destiny are still on ok terms

but then

dextney gets on his stream and just starts talking shit about me personally

calling me insecure in a beta whatever the fuck he was saying

just callin me names and stuff

and at that point

all bets were off destiny's a clerb war on me

so all bets are off

o so right now the state of infrared

we are currently at war with d g g

destiny all of the d g g streamers

all of those irrelevant people that get a hundred views

we're at war with all of them

those are all of our enemies on titch right now and guys remember

these people are making it seem like ah has is like a

big bully and he's this

bad guy and

he now he's you know

he's mad when he gets a taste of his own medicine what medicine when when have i just randomly attacked people

personally

unprovoked

what have i attacked people unprovoked

like for example

bastiap is like the political opposite of me right

but

he's in my chat and we're on good terms

you what i mean

he's the opposite of me politically but

there's no personal issues i've never attacked people

just because of politics i've attacked people because they personally

ronb me

even the s so the s dl debate

s d l disrespected me

okay

he called me an idiot

ah the vols debate

foh was also disrespecting me right he was calling me a nazi or whatever the fuck he was saying

so

it seems like i'm a guy who just debates people and bullies them

but i never am the first one to personally attack people

if you think that's the type of guy i am

you're just selectively watching my shoe i'm not that guy who just randomly attacks people personally

okay

so

you know that's why people were like why is infrared who always act like this

alpha chad bully mad that our relavant is coming for him personally

because i find it weird when people just come at me personally

that i don't have any beef with i don't even fuking know them

i i'd never do that to anyone right

but now that i know how wwich is i'm starting to do that now right

i'm starting to just randomly go after people

and just just pull up a random stream of you know that guy's a bitch fuck that guy

i' say i'm starting to do that now becuse i know how it is

but

god forgive me

lord forgive me i used to be a human being on this platform you know that i used to be a human being

but

yeah that's that's those days are long gone those days are long long gone long past us

everything was shown t you threw your weight behind the ana thing

i threw my weight behind the anything because

she was going against d g g and i fucked with that because d g g

are narrative spinning scumbags

they are scum bags dude

eg g are narrative spinning scumbags

who go after you because you have political disagreements

she going to be calling me that mart's name what mart's name

and but anna was calling destiny a psychopath

well no i was trying to convince her to

you know

to just forget about destiny i ok whatever he's an assal he's not an assal

forget about him right

what

i can understand the harassment you're getting from theg because i get the same shit

that's what i was that's the angle i was coming from right

butn't attack destiny

i she actually did fucked up shit and you indirectly picked aside by going so hard

you know

she i don't think she did fulk up shit i don't

i think the d dj was harassing the shit thought of her for a long time

and whatever problem she has

it's no excuse

for a community

of mostly grown males to be going after a female

period

there is no excuse

you know if you were a grown male you've got an issue with the female

you turn your ass around you ignore her unless she's personally

causing problems for you

right

f you are grown as man don't be spending your time

going after females

making them cry

tears on stream and shi like that

that's just whacks out

right and she's crying she's mentally distressed

you know i'm saying like

sorry and here's another thing too

this is also why it pissed me off

anna

was a regular on circus show

so

it's been months and all of us on zirka show after we've been together for months

we have a kind of sense of camaraderie in a way right

just in the sense that like yeah this is our community is our show and these are outsiders coming after one of our own that's how i thought about it like

these are outsiders coming after one of our own anna was one of us

because i didn't know anything about this d g g s involvement with them

a they were on the show and they were part of the show

and you know

when an outsider comes and starts you know doing that shit

but listen we're a different community we're not d g g they're not going to come and impose their bollsit on us

yeah it's an independent thing we're not going to follow destiny's rules and all that shit

so

i don't i don't i don't want to talk destin for that long but

and it's the one who brought it up

okay

who cares

who cares

destiny was egging her on and chat ever that's what everone forgets to destiny was egging her on a ton making it a lot worse

right

call latina adriana

i m'll call adriana

thank you esther you and jerika are fucking funny but you really do carry the royales

the most recent one had me dying

thank you as to appreciate you

it's a beautiful i don't know what i'm going to get for dinner what

i didn't even order diennery

actually i do have dinner

have dinner in the fridge

wo i do have dinner

okay

cash some dinner in the fridge

adriana didn't answer her phone

forking a phone a

which is insulting

she's got this is why she didn't answer

she got one point seven k vies where did you get those views from

who rated adriana

i been having a little podcast lately oh destiny did

no way destiny did

our next topic we're talking about is probably a me on tuesday

is

how social media redefine did she betray us

the destiny

i love how she didn't pick up her phone i love how she didn't pick up phe if adriane is an ol g she's about to get offline she would raate me if she's an ol g

a positive is that you don't have relevan ship positions anymore but the negative is you lose content

yeah

i don't know

on no water

it's a beautiful lafe

wll oh

it's a beautiful life

wah oh

it's a beautiful love

oh

please rate r t c gaming who's it

i already know who i'm going to read ok it's that's already said

would gimutay i'm supposed to do legs today but i'm probably not gonna

probab going to just save it for tomorrow

it's a beautiful lafe

whh

it's a beautiful laofe

not to

what program i on

know what you're talking about

i have no

idea which is on one

can't believe adriana

called me

but as soon as she got ady b y destiny all of a sudden

i don't exist anymore

i'll never forget that

read ag read

why does she need my raid

of all people

why does she need my raate of wll people

is the infrared link aboove me real yes it is check try it for yourself

dry for yourself

think i might have some in sh

gymney

know that is

maneesh jibney you know that is

you know wh that is

many ash ibe

i hope you know what that is

ain't nothing to fuck around with

are you going to go trip or treating no

no i'm not

bad for you you will come

far from it

re you talking about

it's a beautiful life

avatch is online

how's he doing is he coping too

he is still talking about dave shaproll

would a loser

maan oushe gibner

n wo sh it

where it she

but's on dave chapelle i love him i love dave chapelle

he speaks fat

all right i was just waiting for this seven hour mark

one more hour again

i really can't

probably not like i would rather date a guy that was taller than me raid

how tall is she

a raid should i cancel the raid

someone told her about it should i just cancel it

x was four eleven i think i i'm going to cancel the raid should i do it

walk the dog

for you

oh

three

thank you go for appreciate you

don't be like that

a guys i'll see you tomorrow

bye bye