COMMUNIST PARTY USA REFORGED [2021-03-21]

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oh you thought i was doing that intro tonight now didn't you

damn

folk

what today was a beautiful day guys

sunny

hot out

i was in the sun

i'm going to get my tan back don't worry

way why would you worry about that

okay guys

shake

what a day

what a focking day you know

as you guys know

we're trying to make a transition

to

which

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yeah wwich is free you know we're going to make the transition to twitch

we're still going to be streaming on you tube ma for another week or two weeks i don't know i don't know the exact timeline

but eventually we're going to fully transition our streams to twitch and have videos on you

okay

and um

i know' twitch is way more strict

and they're banning people left and right for nothing

but

we'll have you tube a back

you know we're multipolarity and multi platform

case so don't worry

look at how with

such ease we switch between platforms you know it's so it's super easy

you know

so don't worry about it guys

this is the ag the internet two point zero is the age of multi platformity

and i'm saying

so you're going to be on multiple platforms and stuff

i got a lot of content lined up in store today

lot of news and guys

the gangs coming on today they could they're available so

we have some people whose

can come on

today

we're going to check the red it first

and we're going to get right into the news

and after the news i want to talk to you guys about some of my thoughts

on the current prospects of a third party in the usa

i know american politics i get it ok i get it don't worry

i'll make it fun we're going to look at movement for a people's party we're going to check out some things going on around that

we're going to check out c p uus and we're going to do it together we're not going to do it from the perspective of you know

i'm not going to arrogantly be like i know you know what it's like to organize a party and i'm going to look down on them and critique them

we're just going to do it together you know as layman people who aren't experienced

in you know building parties and political whatever i mean ass experienced

a little bit

way more than me

but we're just going to look at it together and we're going to just talk about it and we're going to see what we can you know we're going to bounce some ideas around and just

i want to get a feel of the situation

you know because we just need that feel of the situation for third parties

in america

so we're going to do that together ok

now

without further ado

let's check

the ready

and i didn't check this before stream

so don't worry

then

m looking at it right now

and

wow i'm impressed

so

we have a six seventy six bucking members

holy shit

holy fuck and shit

that's a lot

that's a fucking lock

wow

what are all these bananas

banana moons and shrimps

oh it's the opposite of guerrillas and sons

but i don't have a problem with the moon we mean the moon are not on bad terms

du the moon is not the opposite dude

dude the moon i'm fine with the moon dude i don't got no beef with the moon so i don't know what you think youre what kind of statement you think you're making

but

you know

i don't got beef with the moon

understand i don't got beef with them

ok let's continue

castro and gorilla

based

soul isn't that a band

oh it's the roman cult

soul in victis

i mean

this is a based picture but

i'm not so sure about this this is like too much

we're not about solings here guys we're not about

son worship

you've got to make it more subtle you know i just make it more subtle it's just like

what i mean by that is that

don't directly worship the sun

just appreciate the sun shining on your face

you don't worship it it's had on whatever

we're not sun worshippers as we don't worship the son

but we are one with the sun you know

you've got to be neo platon neo platonic mysticism

subtlety

not

you know soul and vigscreen

and the band sucks too

zenz alert

but i hate all bands actually

zens alert

i write that this is that s fucking scombat

this is true

this is one hundred percent fucking true

this is one hundred fucking percent

troue

hundred percent true

yeah raccoons are way more actually i don't hate raccoons but

i have one arch nemesis raccoon

i don't know if i am i declared war on the species itself yet

i do have an art nemesis reracoon

the american centuries over this is that guy who's kind of hit or miss sometimes he poss cringe like his licenco thing

but other times he's not so bad so let's see what he's got also discuss

our deep concerns with actions by china

including in hinjong

hong kong

taiwan

cyber attacks on the united states

economic coerse

toward our ally

each of these actions

threat

rules based order

that maintains global stability

thought i but

well you can't

blame this problem on somebody else i have to tell you what i'm hearing is very different

what you describe

i'm hearing

deep satisfaction

united states is back

they were reengaged

with our allies and partners

i'm also hearing deep concern

about some of the actions

your government

take

woman body mention the tire holl woman know wenym wit so cheap and

when john chip

well i

think we thought too well of the united states we thought the u s side will

i'll shit

matic protocol

so for china it was necessary that we make our position

was in they change

sl

he makes hom silly that you w so far

from what

so let me say here that in front of the chinese side the united states does not have the qualification to speak to from position of straatey

yeah

nll

do the whip sound effect

yeah it's as simple as that ok i was a good video

base video

vasco's full mascot

saying that

from the writings of angles lennon mou he learned socially is best under busgoi democracy

where there's a veneer

where did you learn that dude is it's plainly not true

the only successful revolutions happened in fucking

oriental despotic countries

and in all the democratic countries nothing happened

the fuck are you talking about what a dumb fucking thing to say

this is something that i've learned itus is betrays basic common sense

w i looked into the writings of people like engles ok what he's talking about is stages

but that's mentionsm and it was the boseviks distinguish themselves from it

and marx and angles rejected stagesm too as is proven by fucking marx's writings on the fucking russian

peasant commune

that they didn't you go through busgeoi modernity they could just pass rights to communism that was marx's view

so and marx had also interesting things to say about other nonwstern peoples especially later during his life

later during his life

so this is just not true oka it's just not true

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did they think that

generally would it be accurate to say that marxist tended to think that busge wi democracy

provided more favorable conditions to the propagation of socialism yes ok yes but there's very practical reasons for that there's a few reasons for it one of the reasons was that

the revolution entailed by busgeois democracy whi is this big shock to the ancient regime

they considered

first of all that communists and marxist whatever they have to like

they can't be reactionaries and just say we can go back to the past they have to acknowledge there's something significant about that and irreversible about it

the second thing

is that

there's very practical reasons like for example

in germany under

the authoritarian state that the so the social democrats the original ones were operating under

restrictions against socialism

and free speech and whatever

made it hard to disseminate socialistic propaganda and grow as a party

but the irony is that

the german social democratic party even under those conditions would grow to be the largest in all of europe and even all the whole fucking world

as compared to england where you did have that kind of free speech and as compared to america where you had free speech whatever so

abstractly they thought it was true but concrete experience proved it was way more ca it's way more complicated than that

and also

the question of whether this entails an actual literal stagesm

was settled in the disputes of russian social democracy

between the bolseviks and everyone else and specifically lenon as an individual versus everyone else so

this is just not true

it's just not for

and what he's saying about corporate democracy well

corporate democracy

corporate democracy

that only makes sense for the latter half of the twentieth century when you're

actually

they weren't they were precisely not talking about corporate democracy

orthodox marxis leninist view

would be that busgois democracy at least nineteenth century english liberal busgois democracy american liberal democracy is dead and gone

and that imperialism has transformed the state apparatus

into something different entirely

actually marx himself pretty much hinted at that

lenin was polematizing about this and explicitly referenced this lenin was polematizing and arguing back and forth with some idiot and the idiot was like well mark said that there could be a peaceful transition to socialism under democratic conditions and then lenin said well that was before the age of imperialism as disclosed by the b

napoleon the third's regime in france

and that at that time mark said the state the state machinery cannot be readily inherited but must be smashed

thoughts slime and the rest of the serfce interpreted that quote from marx

to mean that marx was saying that the state in general has to be abolished it's not he was saying you saying the boogi state as it exists cannot just be readily inherited

it has to be smashed into pieces

he didn't say nothing's going to be built in itstead he said this one needs to be smashed into pieces

the one vosh is talking about

specifically

so

i mean there's direct textual evidence that

that is

the exact contrary of what wash is trying to argue here and yet people still look to this idiot as though he knows anything about marxism

and he knows nothing

he doesn't know a fucking thing about marxism he knows as much as i knew sophomore year of high school now he doesn't even know that in sophomore year of high school

i was in depth reading like the left columns

you know boorda jo and those fucking people

and even come outay and you know

that's how you pronounce his name

and i was reading i was even reading de guiye de board and i didn't get as far as the frankfurt school guys

but like i was reading those french assles and i was reading

that in depth

you know at that time in my fucking

sophomore year of high school when i before i turned sixteen years old

and that's like almost a decade ago and i knew way more than wasth those right now

and lenin and mau

yeah you see socialists are at least as i understand it most comfortable at least as you understand it ok at least you're admitting it's it's as far as you understand but

think somebody needs to tell this guy that the extent of his understanding is so abysmally limited

making our argument compared to like a saw a guy in sophomore year of high school

in a democratic or a bourgeois democratic system that is to say

in a system where we have sort of this

veneer of corporate democracy where people

no but they weren't talking about what you're saying is a veneer of corporate democracy

in their time over one hundred years ago they were talking about a completely different environment

they weren't talking about the veneer of a corporate democracy they were talking about

states which were more or less

a liberal liberal democracies at least in name

not this kind of centralized post ruby ridge post wacko you know

fucking

leviathin that we're dealing with now which is the federal government the us you know you're not it w they weren't talking about that

the busgeoi state back then was nowhere near as in control as it is now

it was nowhere near as powerful

you know

it was nowhere near as probab they didn't have the fucking ciaa back then they didn't even have

a real f b i they didn't have those kinds of like they didn't have a real established deep state

they had secret you know conspiracy whatever but they didn't have like this bucking machine

that we have now

you're really wrong about this oh

p'll expect things like

rights and representation you can make arguments like

now in the twenty first century bourgeois democracy is thematic

it's thematic

which means it's like a fucking costume

it's not just a veneer it's actually like a theme

it we are no different than a communist party ruled state one party state it's just that

instead of communism as our theme we have democracy as our idiological theme

but that's all it is is an idiological theme

formally you can be like burnie and run against the establishment

but they're going to fucking

to be pleaed dirty tricks against you

and well that's democracy you know it's like that's how it works it's a fucking theme

it's a theme park democracy

hey

couldn we there's nothing real about american democracy nothing

not

trust me there's nothing real about it guys

in other countries in world leas you can have free speech you can have free speech here to the extent that it's literally harmless and makes no difference when you start making differences the state comes hard and clamps down on

you know

this is so delusional i don't fuck you know what kind of fucking idiot this is

there's a difference between busgeois democracy in the nineteunenthd century and today

today there's noy it's dead liberal boge or democracy doesn't exist anymore

it was inherited it did evolve in a new way but it evolved into

it was inherited by socialism itself it's not something that's just like well how do we

how do we compare back then to now when you know who's the equivalent of the boozewa democracy now there is no equivalent

the situation is fundamentally different

by the way that mem of democracy first then com that's the whole reason bosh has retarded politics or at least

that's the theoretical justification

as far as he is concerned

has i wise is called has city

what i'm going to find i'm dude i'm a twitchtreamer and a you tuber not going to found a city

guys come on

it's not that

i'm not i'm not that you know

there's not going to be cities named after me

that was aleven thirteen twenty twenty

pss a superhero

fool killer

we do have so many of these caulls n don't

we have like

yeah

let me see this is neat

dude

this is wrong

this is the top half is correct

andoy train is fine

the only people this applies to is this

this is this this in this

you know

that

need come on

come on

this is in bad taste to

this is also in bad taste

you know twitches banning people left and right

and it's so fucking diculous

it's so fucking ridiculous man

twitches like

is such a tough platform to be on

you're always fucking walking on egg shells here you know

you always fucking walking on egg shells and

platform

it's like it's it's like people on switch are more nervous than a fucking soviet bureaucrat during the height of the fucking great burges would be

it's like

you can never just relax on this platform it's like at any moment you're done you're out

you know

at any fucking moment

i

it's it's ridiculous dude

and

what i find i this is something i find really

fucked up about this

the way it's done is that

a lot of people's livelihoods

depend on this

and i'm not

saying i'm not saying this's from like a moralistic i get it you know it's like

not everybody i'm not saying like i'm not trying to go on like some

dignified ran

but i'm just saying it speaks to the kind of like

we live in an age where everyone's pretending to be so woke

and so sensitive about everything but like

they just so easily ruin people's lives

and just take it all away for nothing and it's like you could have just

left it alone

and the the no harm would be done

but there's just some people who just got a strike you know

they got a pocking

i don't know maybe they feel it makes him feel good

to do that but

it's like

it's like if you just left it alone

for a lot of people to get ben just leave them alone and there's literally no problem

but people like to create problems from thin air

you know people love creating problems from thin air

yea and they're very unforgiving when you're small and it's like

wait i thought cultural marxist rule twitch well if they were cultural marxist why the fuck are they just going after all the small people you know

yeah

can't tell this is an insult

please don't leave you tube

we're not going to leave you two it's just that eventually

there this is why i want to start

this is why we have to

stop streaming on youtube eventually

because

if i click a filiate on twitter

that's the only way i can access twitch subscriptions

and twitch subscriptions is a way for you guys to support me without paying a dime

depending on whether you have amazon prime or

and you tube doesn't have an equivalent

of anything like

you know

what is this

why does has encourage his viewers to read nickland

besides a few decent criticisms of liberal democracy what do marxists have to gain from meeting the work of a race

dude come on don't be a fucking

don't be one of these people

don't be one of these fulking cancel

like

okay

just not to be offensive but like

i'm curious if this guy is white or not be caause he sounds it sounds like a very something like someone who's

a white liberal would say

dude don't you realize land thinks i'm sub human

just doud

you just said racist chauvinistic eugenicist ok

literally every falking thinker that marx dealt with

and was reading and was inspired by was that

every single focking one

and you want to be want to tell you something they're all still like that but they hide it

you think fucking just because someone smiling and do you know pretending to be woken progressive that they're not this u they're even more chauvnistic from what i know about nick land

on a personal level he's a really nice good guy and he's never racist or anything

personally toward anyone

but a lot of people who claim they're not racist like va and they're not chauvinistic to the biggest racist and biggest chauvinistic type of people

dude you gota grow thick skin

and

what did lenin say lenin said you have to read all the treasures of mankind and no you can't selectively choose what is and isn't a

form of brilliance

just because they're politically incorrect and yes all of this what you're saying is that he's politically incorrect

it's not enough to label someone a racist to say

they have nothing interesting to say

because land is not only a racist or a chauvinist there's a reason he's those things and it you know he's other things too

i don't i don't understand it though i just don't get it like

don't you realize everyone's like that

and they're just fake about it

it's like i encourage you to read nick land because the guy is falking brilliant

and i challenge you

to think critically about what he has to say because i doubt you have an intelligent response if you if you can just so easily dismiss him as a rasist like what is your intelligent response to the problems nick land raises do you have one

land gets you thinking about things you otherwise wouldn't be thinking about

you know

this is dude this is the problem

it is very dogmatic i'm going to i'm stone to read it i've seen its p s a

if you're only going to read people because they agree with you politically

you're not going to fucking read anyone interesting

do you read nicholas toalub not seem nicholas toalib

you read him

he's not one he's not one of us politically

you're only going to read people who agree with you politically

do you know how many fulking people marks read

do you know who inspired lenin's work imperialism the highest stage of capital

it wasn't a marxist

it was some random british guy

who wasn't politically progressive

and lenin based it all on him

that's who inspired him

marx drew from everyone he read everyone he didn't say this person's right because they polit and politically marx always said that there's hidden brilliance

and hiden genius

and yes people don't know how to put the pieces together so they end up being reactionary politically but marx saw the deeper truth in people

he didn't dismiss them or write them off

because they were just wrong politically

he saw the deeper truth in deeper brilliance in them

and that's what marxists are supposed to do

now just read people just because they call themselves marxis that's how you cultivate

laziness and mediocrity and let me tell you whatth the controversal say nick land is smarter than ninety nine point nine nine nine nine nine nine percent of all people callmselves marxist today

whenever i fucking read marxis i read the most dumb stupid

platitude ridden boring dumb bullshit

it's fucking book oh capitalism affects our live but shut the fuck up

okay i'm sick of reading marxis

in twenty twenty one they all suck

please name me marxis who have smart things to say and you'll find like two people

good marxism is mediocrity that's ag fucking means all you have to do is

recite the formula and plug in the formula variables it's the fucking stupid arithmetic that anyone can do well this is how i'm going to analyze shrek shrek is a he is a capitalist exploiting don it's like so fuck it's like mad libs you just fill in the fucking blanks and shoehorn in the most

fucking mediocre vulgar types of analysis and let me tell you another thing

marxists always fuck up intelligent analysis someone like jimmy dorret will spontaneously and instinctuvely have a

fucking good analysis but then some fucking marxist actually guy will come and fucking bury and extinguish his brilliance by shoehorning in this simplistic dogmatic bullshit that ignores the subtlety of fucking human reality i think people need a fucking remember that marx was a humanist

so he believed in being a well rounded well cultivated human individual not a fucking n p c

marxist n p c whose shoehorns in fucking superficial dominalysis

yet even jordan peterson has smart things to say sometimes sometimes very rarely but sometimes he does have smart things to say i think

ok

you have to read fucking everybody

don't fuck m come here and be like

well

this is everyone's going to be problematic politically the goal of marxist is to be well rounded be correct politically but also be brilliant as a human being

if you're just correct politically but you don't have human brilliance

you're fucking parasite

because you're just fucking using

others is work

and repping it without actually going doing the actual work necessary to justify

dude marx spent all day in the british library literally reading everyone and in marxis time there were no marxis and in lenin's time all the fucking marxist were sell outs and fakes and phonies

and lenin exposed all of them when world war one happened

that's why lenin looked at people who weren't marxis and read from them and appreciated their brilliance

that's why lenin wrote imperialism he read non marxis

remember when i said leftists are always the ones who fuck it up

marxists are always the ones who stop

our marxism from being the best

marxists are the ones who fuck up marxism

no ground you legit sound dumb

what are you fucking saying

what does that mean

what does that fucking even mean

you need you do read everybody

you have to be solid politically

but read everyone dude

don't just ignore people because they don't agree with you politically because they have intelligent things to say

and me if you listen to me at all

you're listening to some of nick land because that guy profoundly influenced my thing

profoundly influenced and reshaped

my think

profoundly

profoundly

i there would be no infrared there would be no haz

without people like ick lang

okay

if you're

by by listening to me

you're listening to a piece of him

and you're listening to a piece of dougin

you listen to a piece of a lot of other problematic people too

lennon's speech on anti semitism

alongie

this is good

we don't have time

found sage's old video

i don't know what this fucking means

who is the coolest

ok full metal posting

no i'm down i'm not going to download

wash independently arrives a soceial with science he crsies

in your mind is market socialism temporary or permanent oh temporary

i just look

have you read any other new your reaction

oh yeah i have i' read mold book too

mold bug is way dumber than nick land

but he still has interesting things to say

so the the component of market socialism that's important to me i should talk marxist humanism

no

yeah yeah yeah

now we're not talking about euro communist

we're not talking about humanitarianism humanism means something different it goes to the renaissance you know

we're not talking about like a

live bullshit

and i'm'm talking about that

talked about this gme

the important of markets so ok youre hold on let's let's do this ok

ok get ready people for

fucking

painstrem

ok

ok

hold dip shit

i'm skeptical will ever escape market ok i'm going to draw the world

ok

i saw the shit

yeah he basically is like you have to trade with people

goes social

start producing everything for the people by the people

oh

forces in your country

and in

of the world

the goal though

the real goal is to make capitalist countries dependent

on market socialistt

can you imagine by the way

what would happen if america went to war with china

and we didn't get any more chinese goods in this country this country would fuck and clap

foss you just said

whatever oh yeah it's because they're because

because in china not every company is run by a democratically elected pencil factory

so so that's why china doesn't actually you this video this is a wrong title guys you're misrepresenting wash

according to ozz the reason

china is not socialist is because

uh the

the the politics of nineteenth century liberal sovereignty

are not transposed to every small workplace

therefore

there's no worker there's notes workers ownership with the means of production

because the only way you can exercise ownership

is through liberal sovereignty

from

sixteenth century writings

here we go pte davidson i put class struggle first already better than dor

door

doesn't read end notes and has no idea that capital

capital is the true puppets here and he is merely the puppet on capital strings

as these fucking idiots in my chat

guys want to bet we're pete davidson pete dandelions from

want to bet where he's from

what website hes from

jimmy dor

doesn't read

communization theory

and he's an idiot because populism makes me feel uncomfortable

and i would rather talk with my fellow grad students about the true class struggle

shutle buck up

populism

they always say popular it's so i love how they reduce

like the objective fact of popular realities and national realities

they reduce this to the

phrase populism oh yeah populism is just like an idea that's floating around there and sometimes people grab this idea and that's what animates masses to support this like the idea is just there're such bucking idiot idealists

like the idea is just out there and the just grabed the idea from the ather and that's that's it paul

it pull they do is you same thing with the word it pull they just grab some it pull yeah yeah hu we newton he was just grabbing some it pull and he was high off it pull yet it pull the idea it shut up shut up with this ideal is bullshit

wasoh guarding eggs

if you know you know

i stud ok guys

so this

so i raded oh

last night

and

i saw this someone sent me this a like

four am

when i was

high as fok because i took two of these it's legal it's for sleep

but i was made took maybe high as fox schiz a level high and i was watching willie's wonderland and i love that movie

a nine out of ten movie willie's wonderland i love it with nicholas cage loved it the five nights of freddy's movie i loved it anyway

someone sent me this

and it

i literally just thought of wash is like this big detached head like he's the final boss

and i was like what the fuck he's talking about me because like this because look at the stream you don't see wash his head but his voice just comes on

so i just thought of wash as like a detached big head

who's like in the void

just speaking bullshit at me like

you will never catch me

i will keep getting away like he's like a fucking video game villain or something

but i'm gona this is me goninga i'm goning to watch it

sober

for the first time and i listen to it sober because i just you know i didn't listen to a sober so me see what he said

he said he was talking shit about aself

nic just call people stupid god damn right

and ford's not a troll they're legit yeah that's like insane to me ially watch them of in for

uh

bred's content on my own recently t like out of curiosity sut up oh you watch it out of curiosity do os you literally subscribe to us probably and you're fucking watching us every day you probably watching us now fat lying fuck

at least he admits it though thoughts slimes like oh i've never heard of infrared

mm

maybe his appearance with me was just like aberrant

i on iron i actually i actually he every time alely wants to say he wants to exaggerate his points like i on ironically cannot under sut fking posturing bitch

genuinely don't i can't actually tell if it's a bit

wasoh and i'm going to call your bluff i want you to actually see if you can

make me look stupid

like

please test me wash

test how knowledgeable i am compared to you

please wash let's test let's test

vosh wash you're so o way over your way out of your head

you're way over your head dude

like he's got no idea

like' he's like lost

but that's what it i mean to be a tanky all you really need to do is be saying i'm lost because he he it makes no sense to him he's like

wait

oh yeah he must just be lost

i'm the last one but oh said that

lennin would vote for biden

but i'm yeah it's bluffing dude it's pure bluffing

very stupid

and accuse every

them tinkies are stupid

the one who disagrees you of being racist

and that

and they do you being rich

wash i called you racist because you called me a fascist so two can play at this game

h

that's

that's pretty much the spirit right there isn't it they're basically like a

dude you called me a fascist you're like oh tank you support fascist like you're the one who started

throwing you know

mean names like that like dude you're the you're the fucking racist you know i can play these games too

they're basically like slightly edgier like you your whole stick was the fascism car if i

you can use the fascism card but i can't use the race card

dude

literally gargle on my balls

like liberal it poll types like khive you know what i mean doud and he thinks that

he thinks that anti racism is liberal it pull

like it's the same thing

they like scream

dude

a lot

they'll call you racist if you don't like their their stands their daddy's

voice

the whole racism thing

dude you literally do the same but with fascism

and nazebol what are you talking about

that's that's basically the the long and shre that's what you do you fat fuck if you don't call us all fascists and nosbls

a and you didn't use that as your fucking holy writ of the oll the spectru of facss god

maybe we could just have a conversation without mentioning all that ugly business now couldn't we

part of it

oh

little little centrist democrat type

see they're doing it right there the person had uantin see

he literally came on because he saw irrat in him

the tortoise charge

infrared

still cannot stop the tortoise charge at night

it has only made the charge visible

debate shot

sid

in light of tonight's stream average well reasoned argue average angry fucking retard enjoyer

i'm not even sure if i should like this or not

how my a fucking angry retard

who is ellan mars

aren't you the same person

yeah you are the same person

okay alaa mars let me tell you something

why don't you just go watch luna oi cause there's no fascism and there's no

nick land there's no ugin and there's no you know toxic go watch your safe space streamers dude

just go do that

go watch your safe space streamers

you know because we're not a safe space for you

and we're not going to make you feel comforty and cozy here so i'm going actually download this

once you go go watch your comfy cozy streamers and leave me alone

yeat and i will not denounce juice gang i'm not going to do it sorry

i'm not denouncing juica game by the way ust not happening

you know so

yeah

and i know you guys trying to cause drama and be like oll inference denouncing luna and and it's not going on

ok

i'm never the one who causes division it's never me

it's never me

but you know what if you are so intent on like making that distinction

go watch them

just go watch them

ok go watch them

go watch them

you know i don't need you personally i don't need you

i don't need you in the street

you can go watch them you know

wesley

input output analysis model

it was a a rush

imagine if i made the streem everyone watched this onstream

oky n

fellow and word enjoyer

true

gorilla grad

it wouldn't look like his and it would not be called gerrilla

anything else let's see

reach the mass is such a nebulous concept i have more organizational power by being

no you don't you fucking idiot

you have more you have more power of feeling like

you are it's the feeling personal individual feeling

than dor does with his populism

what a falking delusional falking idiot that's the most stupid falking thing i've ever heard he said i have more organizational power by being close with my neighbors than dor does with his populism

dude this is the epitome of falking

western individualist retardation because he feels the effect of something when he's going to fuck his neighbors or something

have an orgy with his neighbors he feels it personally and he's reducing the actual objective reality to his subjective experience of feeling close to his neighbors this is the most stupid fucking thing i've ever read this fucking idiot doesn't realize that the justice democrats were created by kol kolinski and sen

whatever and movement for a people's party i bet you my balls that a big thrust of that whole thing is created by jimmy dore

at least a big thrust of it

all jimmy do jimmy's nearly a million subs he has way more way more power

dude people from infrared literally went and joined the c p s a from infrared and there's a ton maybe at least a fucking dozen

that's you think you can convince your neighbors to join the c p u s a as fucking effectively as i convinced

i didn't even ask them to by the way it wasn't even like our program just because of the mean c p usa twoentoand and thirty six people in this fucking chat our audience went to join c pusa i didn't even tell them to

imagine if i was like making my platform

hey guys we need to take over the seat like imagine if that was my fucking stick

i would convince way more fucking people than you would be able to you only have two neighbors idiot one on left side one on the right side okay maybe you can go knock on doors or something

and see how farill get to you fucking idiot what does up with fucking morons in the west who think there's something more authentic

about doing it yourself why you need a workout is that it just need an exercise i can relate i exercise every fucking day but i don't pretend that's the same as revolutionary practice i understand the whole point of working out is so my muscles get bigger or something

why don't youjus go run a mile you fucking idiot

you just love pain you love protestant pain you're protestant pain enjoyer

and your theology doesn't apply to me i'm muslem leave me alone

i don't share your your enjoyment of pain and suffering

as the epitome of the absolute

experience

like you just lup holl yeah guys i knocked on doors and i ran across the block today and i've just been putting sweat in it and you know there's a lg and got a lot of sweat in it and i do just go on the treadmill then leave me alone

fuckan idiot biggest dumbss in my chat so far

is pete idiot

tardation

pete dandelton is a falking

idiot ok's

i think this is it and we're going to

okay

hold on

let me tell

on the weeks so

go in shore

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to do that hold on

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capture it

to capture we have to do video but i just want to capture like your avatar you know

okay

um

i mean it's fine t

just turn video on but don't turn your webcam on it or cover your webcam

and then turn the video off

okay

that way i can pop it up

okay ya wait

let you pop it out

ok

popped it out

and now you can turn it off

all right perfect perfect ok

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and then i'm going to get rid of me

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howo do this shonan oh wait for

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we don't have anythings

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discord

and then

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yeah yeah perfect perfect i got

that

oh evans your shit

hello guys

how oh

you just leave

he's probably reconnecting

we're going to go straight into the news

let's pull up

her

s streamlinks

i what's the first thing

i wanted

hope

all right let's take this the i want to checke this article out

the intersectional period the someae thing

all right i guys i didn't actually read this so i want to check it out with you guys extream'm not going to slowly read it so don't worry it's not going to be boring

but im

this is going to be

this is going to be fun

k

what up what up evan how you doing

a was good was good can you hear me all right

yea ya we can hear

o

hello evan

eh worstup as wea

go

was good

dude we got a lot of fucking idiots in the chat

i know man i i'm seeing them

hey ya everybody what's up everybody

but you gota forgive me i'm eating

when i'm done i'll get on video and all that shit

uh but

hope everybody' is well

for sure for sure

so i wanted to check this out this article intersectional imperialism because

the title itself i already get was going on and it sounds interesting so let's read it

the empire cllpse back oh no no star warsh immediately immediately a

a horrible image just came in my head

horrible image

the empire cllps back

with trump styn nationalism out of the door a new era of imperial etiology is upon us

this mutation of the empire's dominant dogma is manifesting throughout global institutions of economic political

and social control and is materializing in a mirad of conflict theaters

dude

so fucking true

so fucking true

and oh is saying that this is actually america's spreading democracy so

because it's l g b t rights you know

you can't criticize him

you are a fascist if you criticize him for that

yeah

yeah

i

but

this is so true and any international people here

want to confirm this like

a you're seeing the perp the permeation of all this w bullshit

through american funded led institutions

around the whole fucking world and completely alien from the soil in which it is taking root

in order to identify where woll computerism exists we have to define it first

oh

i'm just gkidding

so what is it

it's certainly not the first iteration of hedgemun of domination buttressed by moralism

the doctrine of responsibility to protect was officialized

by the united nations in two does' and five but it's routually traced back to the nato bombing campaign of uos slaviat

during the obama years

the term humanitarian intervention caught on as a main monarker for such actions

well imperialism

toould be inunderstood in the mesuration of these concepts

as corporations have increasingly embraced rainbow capitalism to keep up with the sensibilities of an increasingly liberal

us public

so too have institutions of united states imperialism refine their pitches to reflect the increasing popularity

of identity politics

this phenomenon has not gone unnoticed

as with everything on the internet it has become the subject of means with an image of ok we know this mean

this is it guys here it is this is the bid in era

they sent

they say the next one will be sent by a woman

really makes you feel like you're a part of history

may be very soon

given

hol bid s being acting physically but

uhh

yes

unless they you know they put his head in a jar or something

what both of the above means can't express given their limited format

is the variety of methods of exerting imperial control

as it takes many forms beyond bombing

and not all this can be chalked up to the presidential transition we knew that the state department and three letter agencies were hardly on board with president trump's approach to foreign policy

nor his cultural proclivities

this is the dylan burns dylan burns foreign policy era

so while a lot of trends

the noble anti triggering organization nato

look at this nato at let's watch this ad

at nato diversity

is our strength new bot to wait they're all white the's a bunch of white people dan

diversity is you try come on guys

there g not a single one usually the the like one dark skinned dude in there just one they've got to tokenize somebody but not even here

maybe it's more honest this way

wait when a way don't you know she's she's a

she's she just like elizabeth warren she actually is one a thirty second

very good blood one out of thirty two that fraction

she's got about a point five percent native american blood

and the one drop rule

yeah prevail exactly

yeah this is native american representation in nato

and she's descended from the young ny invaders from asia that brought

that the indo european invasion of europe

she's descended of one of those people so that's something our own unique personality different skills oh ok ok and she didn't even get screensime they literally just flash that black lady give her any screen time they might have cut her off

theye probably doesn't even speak english

jesus

they they just found her randomly

like they're probably like you they probably got troops in her country they just found her yeah

exactly exactly

come with us

yeah come with us for a photo shoot really quick

this is an example of the people we invade

come from all over the world from every walk of life no two of us are the same

this is the awkwardness of europeans trying really hard to appear american

oh boy we were and they were even get wor thandard

americans as doing it

and americans are not good at the puly quote unquote americans in the first place

they're really not

guys by the way this is nato the north atlantic

and i'm retarded what was the north atlanta ine trigger

what it someth triggered the north atlantic triggering organization

and it was formed

you have a north atlantic treaty

organization and it was formed

after world war two

um and the was trip

and this is what it's become now it's like it's a cruise ship

you know

yeah yes yes should the first thing that it made me think of was like an airline

like you know how when you sit on airplane

and they tell you how to like be safe on the thing

what if they just started like

what if they just started showing like operation gladio stuff and like they just show neo nazis they sw like some ukrainian guy with a swastika they s all in the background yeh its all in the background noo that they know that the ukrainian guy with the swastika he's right in front of the camera he's smiling guys are really diverse look we've got the neo nazi we've got

a sonic italian fascist we got brace differences brace our differences

embrace our deficits because we all have one thing in common we are natal bro this is the democratic party i see no in the democraus guy with the man but hey guys it skinny boss

it's skinny wash

when he starts taking i don't even see the person on my screen this mon i know who you're referring to why does he look like this

they all look like they have why do they have man bunes is that like supposed to be like a

a way to escape whiteness

like if i have knowo one

it is no no i think it's

is in solidarity with women

this guy that's the most fake smile i've ever seen oh d you see this wo this ises is going to turn into the facebook symbol

de facebook oh wait what imagine it turns into a swastika

mm

what kind of shit is this oh

we are nato

met being such a cop

that you

you hashtag we are nato you actually tweet that

imagine being that much of a fucking

ok

what is this kamala in one nine hundred eighty four

you know my mother had many things but one of them was she is so unlikable

she's so unlikable i just hate kamala forget about her politics she's an unlikable person

yeh agreed agreed snake ya snake

yeah

i actually can't think of anyone

more likable on a national level

so it's really a firs it's really a stretch i think you really have to

you really had to suppress a lot of shit

i think a lot of people lie to themselves

yeah a lot of people doloion to do many things yeh make sure and notf the last that's about legacy that's about creating a pathway that's

kamala

spicks and chooses when she's black all the time yes she's always picking and choosing when she identifies a being black

recently she's more asian o yeah i thought and controversyy well it's perfect it's perfect

this is

multi ethnicity

you can just touch everything i've experienced everything

i'm also asian

i'm are sold

x y z whatever

i know your pain

kamala has the if infinity gauntlet of identity yes exactly true we doing after any out during when there was discrimination against during trump's travel band she appeared in the he job

i know your pain gyspl your pain i'm alsom muslim

well

we that's got to be something

that's got to be something

you have some gram to start as off

dude

dylan burns and as d l sosendn left

they're soyfacing at this news ready

in his very first remarks as secretary of state secretary blink just imagine them soyfacing a watching this

lead out

vision

strengthening the state department

both in the near term

and in the years to come

in those remarks he acknowledged that we cannot do our job of acing america's interests values

our commitment to democracy

without a seat department that is truly representative of the american people

so on left watches this and he's like this is literally sic of so of the last faces literally him when he watches this

say my guy

that's lially how he watches it

th youns this is llan burns face ready hes goes first he has a serious inquisitive face

is the housemow

mmhmm

it's like everything's going according to plan

yeah he's very like

they did not disappoint he's very proud

like he's very

linking improve diversity and inclusion to the broader success of u s foreign policy

so this is this is death not

definition this is an m p c this is this is literally

a robot dod this guy win till after he delivered this speech he just like he prepared his papers

you've read his papers

and he goes

he looked he was walking away and he was

i did a good thing today

d that's sad o that's depressing

secretary blinkon announced the creation

of a new chief diversity

and inclusion of

position

which will report direct

to him

the cd i o known will align and advance

i policies across the department

bring transparency to these initiatives

and hold senior leadership accountable on progress

addition

each of our vieas will also designeate an existing deputy assistant secretary

to support that bureau's own

and to serve on a newly created this is a fucking bureaucratic nightmare what do he just say we're going to appoint someone and then

appoint another person and then appoint someone who's going to appoint that person who's going to

oversee that person and it's

he just get bogged down in the weeds and it's like ok fine i promise i won't say the slur ok i won't say

i won't be transfobic leave me alone

there's the there's so much like you get you get bogged down in so many weeds

and it's like ok i'm sorry ok you know it's just exhaust you diversity and it's the worst kind of torture it's the worst kind of torture

dude what a pathetic display of an empire

desperately just it's it's just trying to get anything

we're going to we're going to apoint an official

twitter mean squad

we're going to create meams now guys

that

council

they got to get with culture there behind

from that's what they do yeah yeah they always do this whenever they're behind all the time when they're behind

then they just have to hire an expert

like they're failing it's an abject failure and they're like we'll just hire an expert that's their goals for everything

department to achieve the goals laid out

in the upcoming diverse

please

they have a strategic plan

diversityion make us stronger

smarter

more creative

and more innov

the work of building a state department that truly represents the american people

just

beginning

but today's announcement god the secretary's

do with what this guy's doing they could literally put anybody on there i don't see why at this point in time they don't just put celebrities on

people who can actually spin and do it well if you're just going to read off might as well have that means nothing if you're going to read some shit that means literally nothing you might as well have somebody who's good at reading mean whch up may as well have microsoft s

yh yes yes yea right might as well seres on there fucking talking toolus

guys

this is triggered me because this diverse

tk

for

it's my law paper

i have to write about

i have to persuade

that

that that diversity is strengthen at

tuk to tuck law school fulk law school

buck diversity

to pup it in ship buk diversity i hate that word so much

streatam have diversity shot up what a meaningless phrase

it's such like an american obsessed thing to talk about diversity

dude fok diversity i'm so sick of hearing about it

buck the word diversity shut up department of defense

strength through diversity

because americans are zessed with multiplicity for multiplicityes own sake

like american scientists actually believe in many worlds theory what a bunch of bucking idiots

there are many universes it's the multi verse guys

by the way guys anytime i show

or a lore

talks about the multi verse they gave up

yeah you can't just yeh they can't justify why they made a change it's like oh it's the multi verse guys i'm telling you they always just intentionally they they substitute quality writing and storytelling

for for bullshit

that's what it is

that's america makes sality

it makes a story meaningless anyway like

completely yeh just so arbitrary and stupid

alright i think uh

the age of women on

women not o

i think we've kind of exhausted this

yeah yeah yeah we can

thoroughly we've we've said a lot about how to actually

let's go to the next thing

so i heard on read it there was an

a m a

for

a real

prisoner of the weaker camps or a went undercover to visit chinese labor camps

and apparently

the reditors exposed her as a fraud

is it a um

gizm person or is someone else the name is

a lauren

something

es

i think she's the gidsmre person

yeah

no no i think this is someone else

ok it's aot you those words of the go times

oh

and read it expos her

that's crazy that read it exposed i didn't expect read it maybe wall street bets turned red it from cock

to something else you know they got exposed hard

what did you say i think

there are lots of very very passionate

thi or slash thino

o

she polled there

you guys take this out

would you mind describing what you saw in the labor camps t l d r i didn't go inside but i can share you a link to a thirty year old documentary now go by my book

wow

she's one weaker she's one eight weaker that it's more than elizabeth warren so

she's st damn

yeah legit legit

is she the person who oh yeah yea yeah wait is she the person who rose he new york times opet about

how like this

c c b c suppressed her isnic identity that she doesn't even know she's parts a weay g or something yeah i think so it was

ya it was the c c c c p uh

suppressed my twenty three and mere results

i this's the c c p's faults that i don't speak weaker i don't even know about my weager roots like one eight

one eight is nothing by the way guys can you think how

so what's one eight so

your parents

and

i'm so stupid wait one great schoup parents

one gan gres grandparents one great grandparent

and on that basis she thinks the c c p

stopped her

stopped jim from recalling her ancestory

wow

okay

this is a video that i'm interested in and this is a three takeaways from china u s alaska meetings it's about four minutes we may not watch all of its but let's just

check it out i i'm interested to hear this is a chinese media company so i'm interested to hear their

their impressions and their you know

yeah

hey guys welcome tolit to checkut what the world has been making sense of the recent alaska meeting between beijing and the biden administration here a few quick thoughts here first of all you can see the shifting power dynamics between beijing and washington this is a photo that went viral on chinese social media the first one was taken at the signing a boxer protocol in on n thousand one and

equal treaty china sign

after its defeated by eight western powers the treaty allowed western troops to be stationed in china and forced beijing to pay eighteen thousand tons of silver which is ten billion u s dollars in today's value it took china for decades to pay it off the second one was taken at the alaska meeting in twenty twenty one you china's senior official pointed fingers i mean literally point

his fingers at the u s side accusing them of condescension and he pokrisy citing specific examples of black lives matter movement the capital riot and endless american war world this is the same thing wt is no qualification

same thing i say it was like check the record check the record fujin would started talking about the the native the genocide i think

exactly he's like not only did you genocide the indigenous people then you bring africans over

and slave them for he's the only one straight checken like that dude

yeah it was good shit has some backbone you know what i mean this is backbone

and putin named it he said the american establishment and the ruling class he named them

ya my hand

okay alright play this one so we can yeah yeah

dw some ter this is backbone this is backbone wow i was the last time anyone had got to tell the u s secretary of state that and to tell that on live television on twitter ninety nine shake says referring to young speech eighteen minutes of hardcore truth ouch yes one two three says it was always america dictate topics between the two now they're surprised

global politics put it even more bluntly saying this is a beautiful tweet

look at this

you are not number one anymore

you are not boss this is a multipolar world shout out marxism leninism in the age of multipolarity

learn to treat others like equals

and shut the fuck up with your sanctimoni as bullshit about freedom democracy and human rights

wild euyes

let me add to this on my body

gay saying basically china told the u s you are not number one anymore learn to treat others like equals shut up about freedom democracy and human rights and here's my favorite singular figure

based this is fucking awesome this is fucking awesome

challenged western stereotypes and ignorant is this agent brewsbro you're sorely missed now a lot of people interpret china's remarks in alaska has been aggressive and proervans soft topic but i heard that mao toward the end of his life

he ordered movies by bruce lee

and he didn't want to give them up because he loved them so much

do you hear about that

i've never heard of it it could be true

i mean i can loc it off in

yeah's that's what i read it didn't sound like a false source but that's fascinating

you know

the bruce movies are so

the bruce lee movies are excellent

really

they're very very good

man and just uh

you know it's

instills a good spirit within the viewer

yeah they're powerful films you know what i mean and all all of them at least the ones that i've seen always had that theme

of the peasantry coming up

and rebelling against

the landlord whatever

that's always a pretty a consistent theme in those movies

and the need to like train and be disciplined

over your body be able to defend yourself in your community

against the fucking parasites and all of that shit

and theyre they're excellent movie

but after trump and pum the chinese source confirms smith so

that's true

i love that

i just wish

my dream would be that bruce lee collaborates with chinese filmmakers

in an alternate timeline

that would be fuck and sick

to make good propaganda

you know

damn yeah

scapegoating china for what's largely been america's own problem for four years and sixteen minutes state looks moderate my second observation is that the adage that foreign policy starts at home remains as true today as it has ever been by and thiss tremendous pressure from the republicans to be toug on china as the two sides met in alaska marco rubio thatad he fear stajing will

quote lre us into a deal that we think is so important that the started insisting on us to stop talking about hong kong stop talking about taiwan stop talking about muslim labor ca

marco rubio is the champion of muslims everywhere

yes

michael feelsbery trumps favorite china expert said similar things and after the talkspright bart one of the most conservative news outlets in america says china humiliates fidons foreign policy team shamesplincln with black livesmtter conservative commentatory such as mikae ser of itch framed at the meeting in asca as a humiliation for by theen too let's face biden will be a

accused of being soft on china no matter what he does or does not do but it's still worth trying getting the optics right as a new president

after all the success of dos what's so funny the thing that i ca think you about republicans is the video i think it came out yesterday or whatever you see that video where binds like walking up

air force one yeah rol and he's freaking slips oh my god yes like perfect

not only is it happening to his actual physical body but even

intellectually put the man it's falling apart

and it happened on the first day with the whole showdown was a chinese divil that's two

oh my god he was shaking he was terrified fell the steps

your trump was making fun of eim i heard

dude i saw that shit too funny people like pushingeople around the world are making fun of them he

is worse than is worse than trump

yeah dude

dude i don't care dud trump

trump was the best u s president that i lived with

that i lived with

yeah with in my lifetime he was the best one

easily the best

who wouldn't be on the biggest bogment finally people a most recent gallup poll in march shows an unprecedented sixty three percent of the american public think china's growing economy is a threat to america and nearly half of all americans think china is its biggest enemy a year ago americans were split over whether russia or china is enemy number one

this coincided with rising hate crimes against asians and asian americans call it anddmic along with the paddling of china virus and cone flu narrative as apparently increased negative perceptions on ethnic chinese both in america and on the other side of the ocean there needs to be more nuanced mutual understanding through personal connections through travel through

study abroad programs to get china u s relations back on track people on both sides need immunity immunity not just from covert but from the wims and indoctrination pt

wow

nicely put

cool video

so

this is some other news this is also china related don't worry it's not all going to bebout china today guys we just have a few things

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i were not going to watch the whole thing but i thought that was interesting news

okay

so i wanted to point this out

so we're always every if

we hear about

the mice

that are scurrying on the floor in russia

if a mic screes on the floor in russia we hear about

if somebody squashes a bug in russia we hear about

has anyone heard about this there's a lot of protests going on in thailand

his

in bangkok

the king's palace did anyone here hear about it

that me

is dylan burns talking about it is socialism dn left talking about it oss talking about it anyone talking about it

because they love being in everyone's business so i would think

maybe they would talk about this

i mean

if novale farts in russia osses on the case

you know boss smells it

yeah they're always on the case whenever the smallest thing happens

but no one cares about

by the way is this a is thailand a u

a u s friendly country

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mm must ick it up

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thailand u s relations

yes they have very strong relations

caka

well that's interest for what reason

you know the reason what does it say on the thing

i don't know nothing about

the i don't know anything what's

sistery as th as is sees like

you know you hear about the small i never heard about that there was something gong on

you know yees something major

something that's hitting a little bit closer to home did you hear about miami

mm

no what

so there's spring break going on in miami

oh yeah ok ust look at this guy

i'm jealous i mean this is bad

i'm sick of being inside all the time and i'd love to

's always miami something about florida

in the air over

look at this guys this is fucking crazy

maybe we can find some footage

i

hon't knowlk it's a footage

this is the aerial view after the cur the police crack down there's a big curfew

and it's a super spreader event let's check out some footage if we can

um super spread eerth miami spring break twenty let's make it

child friendly

this is after the curfew i believe

if you come to south beach guys this is one of the most iconic places down in south beach

wait is this after the curfew

you can take a this is afterno this is march fifteenth ok

picture on it's the sign and obviously this is what right now twenty twenty

dude

the one guys it's definite i was going to go to miami before covert hit

go now go now man it slit over there

yeah you guys i'm gonna stop i'm gona drop out of law school and stop streaming

buck you guys a going to have some fun in my mf

stdreaming every day

and locked up and stuff

billy pk to say the ase so we're going to try to squeeze through here i do have a mask on a two different worlds

why is miami look like this miami is like still eighties

it is still that desk old money

yeah yeah it still has that old i don't know if it's like

is this new

or is this the old

i don't know is this the legacy of the old or is it like they're doing it purposefully for like

the eighties revival

you know

oh yeah yeah i guess i figured that well no i guess it isn't necessarily

i figured that was dead

the eighties revival

well no man listen to like

person of

fucking was his name he just did the super bowl thing was his name

mhmm

the

fox

somebody somebody knows who i'm talking about

the duties like

he's like ethiopia

he's a pop he is a pop artist

the weekend but is the weekend yes yeah yeah thank you thank you

yeah

no

the reason i bring that up he's still dwelling in the in the he's whacked w i figured it was dead but no with the weekend he's's

got the eighties on his back

dude we're celebrities now so we talk shit about these people oh wow yeah they'll come for he's going to come for what's not we got to bere

yeah

well nows just to switch it up man get with the times that's all we're saying

if you want to get a little perspective of what's going on over here gy looks like a fun time it looks like a pretty dangerous time but

looks pretty fun to me

our guys this is a complete shift

shift of news

look at this

the war in yemen is still raging

ho wanted to start years on end the saudi

government has not

made any inroads they're going to be stuck in yemen forever

so yemen's

they attacked iran coal refinery last week

friday

wow

they're still doing those whothy rebels in yemen are still they're still fucking with saudi arabia like this

years on the the they haven't made any progress

still going though

and it's still gone

they want air strikes by the saudi led coalition to nend

they had no idea what they were coming into

seems like

no idea

no idea let's watch a video about it

and em until the rebels fired missiles only two minutes

drones at the heart of saudi arabia's oil industry on sunday attacking saudi aramco facility

pass on sunday or friday

oh this is a few weeks ago

ok

this is a different one

military target in a soaudi the cities of dumam assid and jazan

the iran aligned groups military spokesperson said that the group fired fourteen drones and eight ballistic missiles across the border s

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it's not that much gys es in the chap for saudi arabia

fs in the chat

this is their vietnam they're going to be stuck there forever

it

it's just sad because like h bin salman

his horse stick

is like the leader of saudi arabia was like

this like hitler ight we're going to go ino yemen and we're going to take over ym and it's years on end it's

w what

this is a little bit more difficult than they expected

es in the chad they always they always underestimate people

they really think that people

ma you i think you brought this up the other day they really think people are out here just willing to give up

their shp

no people are dying they will die they have no problem you know they have a problem with you coming in and they'll put their life on the line for that

you know today's an age of vanity you've got a lot of like

one napoleon want to bees there they want to be strong men like mcron in france is one of them

and bin salman

and you know these guys they get ahead of themselves a little too much andly think they're hot shit

yeah

and they ins in to an extent they really are they really have

they really have the weaponry like that they really do

but that doesn't

you can't take for granted i think you know the spirit

that people have in a willingness you know to fight

of they always take that for granted they think oh just because we have these machines these mechanical this and that it's like

like it's a trump card or something like that no i'm sorry bin solman is molding every day i thought to be easy

um

be got out i'm mean not as a the noa

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themn they got it the man

the saudi energy ministry said an oil storage yard at rastanora the site of an oil refinery and the world's biggest offshore oil loading facility

was attacked with the drone the ministry sa

head on the ground in yemen in maribantis regions these have recently stepped up cross border missile and drone attacks on saudi arabia

the iranian allied rebel group is battling the saudi led military coalition

since it intervened in yemen civil war in twenty fifteen many countries including the united states are trying to use diplomatic channels to end this conflict the conflict in yemen is largely seen as a proxy war between saudi arabia and iran

but the huthis who ousted the internationally recognized government from power in the capital senah

in late twenty fourteen

deny being puppets of theiran and say they are fighting a corrupt system and for et whoes

there are a different sect of

i dodn't know this

until recently

like a few years ago

the wo the yemen shia they're a different sect they're not twelve evers they're like a

something else

so i don't think they're really puppets you know it doesn't seem like they're

poroxies per se

but yeah the iranian government is supporting them

but i'm not sure if they're proxies you know because they're it's a different are the ismailis no i think it's something else

it's something very specific to yemen i think

forgot what it was

me actually

a

i think it's this one

no that's the wrong

zaidie yes something like yes zadi zad you're right

s

too much arab stuff

you're not going to like this next one that was kitding it's not it's not a

it's turkish

want to cover this a little bit

aerdagon our central bank head installs interest rate ally

i love this word interest rate ally wen just understand that

whether it's strong

or others

there's a big war raging

and then i think theoretically it's between m m t

and the clad neoclassical economics and

erto goon he wants low interest rates which means

he doesn't want the currency to be too strong because having a weaker currency

gives you an industrial edge

and eragon knows ertagn is a kind of m m t guy and then he's expelling these neo classical

people who think that

higher interest rates

is a way to

is a way to create

price stability

and save the economy

you know this is the kind of battle raging across the globe you know it's like you

it's the politics of austerity

you know

ah

correct me if i'm wrong it looks like he's learning from in siding with the chinese on this

more or less yeah it's more or less like this battle between

neo classical economics

and this kind of new m m t

print a lot of money

and invest

and it's really interesting

eah

plea

turkey's currency has been fuked for a long long time

and there's like a really big internal struggle going on in turkey

related to

the lero

and related to the

park

monitor yells

when we

when we for that period of time i guess we're still looking into a

bless now

but when we started looking into for x

just that in itself

trying to understand that beast

you know that completely opens your eyes or open my eyes you know what i mean to the

to the vastness and complexity

of this freaquent currency

you want to know the most stupid people when it comes to this

marxis

n know anything about currency

currency politics

not

completely out time

total grain led

it's a heavy shit though

that some heavy shit

yet

i don't know if you guys have been noticing it looks like aeragon after biden was elected it seems like we're seeing a shift

in ertogon's politics even

and his geopolitical position or turkey's geopolitical position

check this out

do to suit

he was responding to biden's remarks about putin

same by dinnon

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is it cause of armenia and azerbaijan

no because

here's i'm going to show you something else saudi arabia and egypt

supported armenia

and maybe that scared him and he's like ok we're not going to go that far

but

look at this

other news

erdragon moves against the muslim brotherhood in egypt

that is groundbreaking that completely changes my understanding of the situation nw

is there a strategic shift going on the

turkey was always aligned with the muslim brotherhood

across the middle east is it changing its position because of azerbaijan and armenia

i wonder if it is

i wonder if it doesn't want to risk

the arab states

favoring armenia over it

and that's why

ertogon is throwing the muslim brotherhood under the rug but this was shocking news to me i had no idea

no idea what

looks like turkey just wants to stop this kind of

onkara is signaling to cairo and jerusalem

that it wants to normalize relations

what the fuck happened

a year ago it seemed like turkey was about to go to war with israel

it seemed like turkey was the number one enemy of everybody what the fuck haped

i have no idea

it's very mysterious to me

with that projects such as the east med pipeline which will likely run in parts of the eastern mediterranean sea that turkey's considers its territorial waters

have left it strategically isolated

aerogon wants to show l c c a the series in his desire to normalize relations between the countries

u

what do you think what do you think the likelihood that the shift has to do with

with the dam

with what's going on in the nile

i don't know it's so mysterious i' have no fucking idea

o

i need to read more

i just don't know why this happened this completely changed my whole understanding of the middle east

and maybe this is just a temporary thing and it's just it's not going to work and they're going to have to go back to supporting the muslim brotherhood

and it's just you know

he's just trying to normal i don't know

i have no idea

it's really weird

you know before by do you remember when mccron and biden were like

sorry macron and erragon were going at it

yeah

and then like what soon as biting got elected

erdogon sends a letter apologizing to macron

what

yeah what

what happened

it happened like overnight

jared kushner's been talking with them about what

you think he's playing forty chess

ah i don't know

really weird

this is something esro wanted to show

we'll show it on screen

then we're going to get into the party stuff

and anyways declining birth rates are actually good

it would forcing people to exist without their consent is morally evil

keeses

there's a direct line from liberalism to this

ok

direct line it's the same pathology

this obsession with unconditional absolute

you know ability to prese yeah exactly

it's just

but

you know

whether you like it or not this is the logical conclusion of the same reasoning which holds

and every country which isn't a fucking western democracy

is a authoritarian dictatorship and it's like because you didn't guarantee the consent it's like the

it's just as stupid as saying this

the absence of some kind of airtight mechanism to ensure absolute consent

in the case of someone being born

doesn't fucking mean

that

you're forcing them

and you're taking away that right like the absence of rights doesn't mean

that they're deliberately being violated or being taken or taken away

that's what liberals don't fucking understand

just because youy're not guaranteed rights

doesn't mean they are being taken away

actively

or being violated deliberately

and they don't understand that distinction

ya ya ya i think it goes back like uh

the subtleties of

human and social interaction like they can't grasp

definitely can't grasp you know

hold on let me it has to be explicitly written in some type of doctrine

for it to

hold's not something that people can just get intuitively

yeah dude it's

fucking joe

thisjus

minutes

but i

but anyway

let's get into some

party let's talk about parties guys and's talk about the third party so i've been

saying that the time is now

for thinking about a third party

and we have some candidate what is this is a bug bit me or something

whatever

now is the time to start thinking about

damn how do i get rid of this shit this looks stupid it looks like um i got like uh

red cheeks or something

what is this

i look like a fucking clown

actually look like a real clown now

it's a bug bite

but that is

anyway

we've been talking about a new party

what do where do we begin in america for like where would that new party be

where would it be in

well i've been talking about movement for people's party to keep an eye on

i just don't know much about it

we're going to go over some drama that's facing movement of the people

so some people have signed a petition

making some demands to

the party

and they're going to go over what they consider to be its problems

let's check it out

i'm going to look at this with you guys

we're going to look at it

together

ok

here's the petition

ok

i

so this is who are we

ok

who are we

it was not

we are a group of former volunteers

from a movement for people's party

as a result of our unsuccessful attempts to bring whatt needed reforms

creation of bylaws

what do they mean by that

bylaws i don't is this is this cokolock behavior we're looking at

so far ok so far my instinct and

my koolock during my koolock

the detector is off the charts right now ok

i have cool lock detective

beinging beinginging ma it may go back as i read more and i may be more understanding but so far my coolock detector is off the charts

wigely legislative

whenever people demand transparency and creation of these rules and shit

it's just my koolg directors off the charts it just sounds like people

who want to create rules for no reason

and

can't just use their own common sense

to get in line

by the way the reason we can't have parties in america is because when you have a party in russia

everyone's united by a common sense that's transmuted through culture

america has no common culture so everything as yet fuck and legislated formally

you know

that's why we can't have a party in america

but anyway

through normal channels inside mm p we created a petition in late october twentusyd and twenty to present we're going to look at that potition

in the process of negotiating the particulars of the position many of the signatories either resigned or removed from m

having all our access cancelled we're going to look at the petition and see what's going on

and why there was a petition in the first place

this sounds like drama i don't care about

we petitioners still believed in what move people party stands for

however because we are not able to significantly move the needle within mm p

and because we have since been slandered and gaslit this website has been created to share with they made a whole fucking website over this dumb

shre

dude we need a third party in america why don't you have party discipline

this is why i don't ok this is why my kulk detectors off the charts ready

sixty one of the signers are in the pacific california fifty are in new england and mid atlantic it's a rap so what is that

coastal one hundred ten they're all coastal elites and there's a small minority

of the

these people

ok

i am

off the bat i'm a little skeptical of this ok

um they made a whole

website out of pettingess guy's word of advice

if you have drama with a party

that no one knows about

stop don't waste your time to create an organization just based on your beef

nobody even knows who movement of the people's party is in the first place

no one cares about this byzantine drama

just drop it and move on

and i don't know what happened

we're going to

try to figure out what happened but

you need a chill and you need to not make this website

because why did you make this what it looks stupid

it looks like a fucking ruckus it looks like a circus

you know

just build a solid third party dude and fucking man up

and stop getting bogged down in this dumb petty bullshit

she heurs an unconfirmed

this is our guy

this is are not god not misgendering them but

this is our person default there in our discord

top

default is there just and

i think they want to talk about it

but

we'll see

can you please join me c

mm

i

hold on

i'm just a bit confused

because

this is like petty byzantine drama

that's completely a waste of time and completely pointless

and i don't know what it's about but the way they're writing paragraphs about it just convinces me that

guys you need to suck it up and move on

you know this is not going to do you any good dude first you got to put m p p on the foking map

make it a

devote yourself self sacrifice for m p p

do not make

a whole website

dedicated to bitching about something that you didn't even let grow from its cradle you're trying to kill it in its cradle

don't make a fucking website about it

before it became becomes anything

at least wait till it gets big then you can do this so we can call you kulox

i can't even call you kolox this is just stupid

this is so pointless in penda drama

okay

let's look at their petition and then this is the purge

oh my god look at all this drama

all right let's look at

below is the text of the petition how long is this petition ok it's not that long

thank god

to the movement for people's national coordinator circle we the undersigned m p p volunteers

hereby request

that m p p leaders give serious consideration

to the below standard

stated concerns and take swift and effective action

cokolock detector off the charts off the charts

with your solutions and who are you are you the majority of the party

who are you to make these demands

and our work as m p p volunteers we have dedicated many hours to the mission of the organization

to form a major new political party in the united states

but you just fucxed it up now

you just proved why it's not possible to bet

a all right for sure sure

you just prove no

what's that

m mmmm no i was just i was agreeing with hi

oh i thought you said yout you gota you'll be right back y ok okay no yeah

hes they said we believe in forming a new political party by making this website you just admitted it's not possible

you just said it's not possible

you literally you real literally already surrendered you already surrendered

i don't care what the dramas about

either ditch m p p

or stick with it

but don't make this website and say you're for a new political party in the united states like dude you just proved why they're not possible

this is literally why we can't have a third party right now it's the only reason actually

it's the only fucking reason dumb stupid petty shit like this

ok this is why we don't have a fucking new political party

don't make this website shitting on the party

you just proved by going public you proved why it's not possible

anyway

thoroughly corrupted by part and faild to mikate

as individuals we have come to m p b three different paths we have a common coastalts we create a better country and world

not

if m p p is a real thing

it's not going to be founded in california in the coastal lites

if there's a people's party in the u s it's going to come from the midwst or the south

something like that

it's not going to come from you coastal leats

otherwise you're larping you're larping is the people's party

if it's all based on coastal leats it's just a larp

you may as well just

make the white panther party

if you guys know what that is

it's the epitome of coastale dumb shit it was found in an arbor michigan yeah ma da yeah

shead

but anyway

not surprising what's so funny is that ant arbora hasn't changed a bit it makes so much sense that the white han

started in ann arbor

p seemed to offer a space where we could be listened to am

god this cochol locker yeah man on yeah dude

this is a university this is a this is a graduate student organization

me and evan know a thing or two about this this is a graduate student organization this is somethak shit these are just some

yeah

we know a thing this lar about this cool lockery

promises of youight with no follow through in the inability to effectively adjreust problems ok let's see what problems

oka transparency

there is a lack of transparency in the organization with regard to leadership decision making financials and strategies

we do not know what happens in the nest

and okay

but what is your problem then is there is there is is theres a problem that you think

they're doing something that's not allowing the party to grow then

focus on that problem don't

don't fucking immediately you know focus on the form focus on the content of the problem

we do not know how we o k do you care why do you care we do not how we are funded does it matter

where our donated money goes

or who keeps track of the books so this is a trust issue

that's what block chain fanatics are all about

the computer is solving this problem of human trust

that's what these people seem like they need they don't have any human trust

and i know it's tough but

look the wisdom of marxist leninist democratic centralism

is that for all the formal mechanisms in an m l party

the buck stops somewhere and you just got to swallow it and just be like

dude

swallow your pride

don't try to formalize everything at a certain point you're not going to there are going to be things that are not transparent

and not democratic

and he just got a bucking man on

you know

start being a parking

you know

we do not know what the process is is used to make decisions

ases

would you not ned di di you're killing it in its cradle dude

it's like

we do not know how the organization functions at the top

we are not kept privy

ok

there's someone here who knows

he's not there anymore never mind

i was going to bring on i am ok

it is not clear how the eventual party platform we voted on or how the founding convention will work at all maybe they themselves don't know when they're still working on it

this is a stupid concern to me this is fucking stupid

default is in showcqe

no they're not

i am ok was

democracy

on democracy

volunteers often feel no sense of agency in the work they do

here we go with this coolockery meaningless bullshit

the volunteer and membership community is not consulted on major decisions

if you have a problem with a decision focus on the content not the form

you don't focus on the money

this is such a stupid fucking concern

good

imagine if the populace one hundred years ago thought this way

dude you know how organizations work is that the buck stops somewhere eventually you got to realize

you can't formalize everything dude you just can't

somebody's got to make decisions and you got to follow the line

ok

and it doesn't matter how that person's a that person maybe you can elect them maybe you can do things like that

but someone's got to be in power and make real time quick decisions

that there's no time to consult anyone about

and you just got a bucking get shit done these fucking people sound like they want to turn the party into the fucking u s congress where nobody gets shit done because they spend all their fucking time formalizing bullshit instead of actually getting things done the most important thing any organization has to do is get shit done

ok

and the democratic forms are secondary

this this central and democratic centralism is way more important than the democratic part way more important

way more falking ampoort

they substitute

a clear vision

with

bureaucracy ok ok we're going to bring in two people associated with m p p ok when they ok i'm going to tell them

ok hold on on

ok default and i am ok you guys here

youo

okay okay

we gota um i just want to say um

yeah

that mk good yeah your mikes good i can't hear defaulto

so hello ok i hear you here ok i both of us were involved with the petition o get i just want to make this organized though because i brought two of you so like we got to like one at a time

and all at default start

are you guys watching the stream right now

f i am ok ok right now we watch instead of watching let's let's go one by one like addressing this because this is the first time i'm reading their petition so

can you corroborate these claims because they're making a lot of claims about

the national coordinator circle so i want to know i'm

yeah

because i'm a neutral party can i explain this

m ok with sure you can go ahead

because default is some we they mission on their website so i'm a bit more a neutral party but the thing is is that the m p p petitioner circle i was

they were controlled by a guy from california

the guy

was named

i'm not going to name him but

because i want csh but he was like ex military dude

that already give me shady vibes

and

and he

was

part of the m p p since day one he was a he was like

in the organization he was like part he was like the it could he controlled the entire west

coast n p p

the entire west coast n p p was under his control

and then

he one day invited me and if you a everyone in the coast to a meeting saying

oh

time to democratize and p p

and then he invited us to a fucking discourd server which is not professional if you're a fucking professional you use sla

you do not use discoord

so

the thing is

it and to be used slack for m p p but invited us to discourse ser so that's another fucking alarm

and then

thanks to the work of default here

he was able to stop this wrecking

from what i from what i heard

and this was basically wreckoning

this was reck

from because he was trying to recruit people to his own organization

this was wreck

dude there's no other way fucking putting

this is to me just instinctually i'm reading this shit and it sounds like

literally that

tie

fucking time old leftst bullshit

i don't think this i actually think this is coing what grow thats someone who is part of the petitioner circle

what this was like i was actually in their group

the

that what they call they call themselves

the revolution within group they have a discord i was i was invited i signed a petition

i joined their discord

m

what this is what this is

what they are

is essentially

a color revolution

within the fucking p p

like i found people within there fucking put their discord that we're talking about

they were that were pushing conciliationism with the democratic party

o with elements of the democratic party

t

fox

ople like us i just i thought a twitter war with these fpuckers like

like my twitter just blew up today do i just found out that that this was a thing i sort i attacked one of them then like

the next thing i know i'm getting like attacked by dozens of people including like bread tube

like radleg types

who had nothing to do with any of this fuck and shit

like my twitter gets blown up like i do this like a notifications they're retwining each other like crazy ok ok

listen

i fucking a man i can't confirm or deny nothing but that sounds super spooky

that there're like suddenly these d you people aren't like how far does this fucking go

yeah yeah i think this is i actually think this as someone who's involved with this

and

i can confirm

because i'm on there i'm on the current slack and i was on there before i've been in since day one and people in n p p can confirm this

i was in the petitioner circle until and i

petitioners circle actually

made me less active an m p p

because of the fact

that

i had no faith in p p because of the ps yes or yes that's a that's exactly what they were doing like the m p p like literally while i was in the petitioners the r w discord

there were like signs where the m p p was trying to like make conciliate concilitory gestures

towards the petitioners group

and like like like they actually came up with a fucking constitution

but then like everybody like all the leadership

of the r w discurd like the mods the people that would that were like had special roles

they all dismissed it out of hand

and like is

this is what really gets me like

okay

like i can understand you you're you've tried like negotiating with the with the with the c c with the leadership of the p p fine

but then it turns out before i joined the r w r ly discord

the entire group had taken a vote

as still like

where they should go following a

particularly like a slow or

or unsuccessful negotiation with the c c and the group

the orderly group

basically voted to abandon the m p p

declared voted voted that reform reform of the n p p was impossible

right

and they basically voted to form a splinter group a breakaway group called the way forward that they would fuht that they would build on on gilded

i never even fucking heard of it and gil nobody fucking uses gilded i'm sorry

gilded

only people who use guilded are fucking neo nazis

that's l please guilt it

dude and get get this

the people these people like so like the people that voted to leave the or leave the reform mo or s form this breakaway group they still had voting power within the r w discord and they also occupied

of moderation position

they offer all the occupied leadership positions within the orderly discourse

yet

during all of the thing they would still masquerade and present themselves to the n p p base as a reform movement

even though they believe the reform was impossible dude that is

that is so fark too de

nothing disgusts me more than people who try to just kill shit in its fucking cradle this m p p wasn't even allowed to get anywhere before these fucking parasites came and shit it all up

yout fking regrettably

if you know the history of contel pro you would know that they usually try to kill things in their womb

before it becomes a problem

do do only thing do only thing but

you know

there has to be a way because there's going to be more of that shit for m p p and the n p p this is the least of their concerns right yeah ok that's good that's so good to i just i just joined back on you p p slack

they had like i was

the last time i was on there i was in january they had more than a thousand members in january now they have only eight hundred

actually killing them right now ok but no but in my i'm part of the california specific

because i'm in california youy' part of the specific california people's party and

thankfully we have a really great organizer now in the pro runs the bay area

and now we're in the state of california we're actually in official party now

so we've been doing great in california that's evening on unter air

but we've actually been able to recover california

you know on

there ha you know this this

the thing that i think is so important just like i'm a sideliner so my

my words are not weight like worth that much

but just like as a sideliner you know just like as some guy

i think the m p p a lot of it you have to think about

what kind of messages it who what kind of people must it attract

and i feel like

whether they're feds or not

those type of p m c type people literally it's in their instinct to shit things up like this be babies cause drama

and demand over formalization of everything

and it's just you know what what youse people said to me

so like

when i expose these people in the n p p slah

right

one of their one of their one of their like leaders

um

like there was this whole thing with with like a with a working class

a petitioner

who was part of the m p p but also part of the

part of the part of the r w discord

who had like

like he has some reactionary like behaviors

and you know like

and essentially

what this what this particular what

our leader told me was that

he would

he would try to get working class people fired from their jobs

for having reactionary attitude

and this is an

he strikes like he's in a party called the fucking people's party

this is a party

you know the people's party mission literally is in opposition to everything he was doing

also he was a fucking x military jerry perez was an ex fucking military guy i w'm talking about stve colm jy pres was the guy who i was wing well let's not get bogged down in the weeds t's kind of

keep our eye in the money

ok but i think that the m p p i actually think that by paying attention to this

we're actually letting them win

and in my opinion

f i disagree

i think because the m p p will grow regardless of this

and

the thing is is that if the m p p

can

make a lasting impact by the g of nina turner win her senate seat and it s wwitches to the people's party none of this will matter

yeah you're right maybe you're right but right now like i thought this would die away like i thought this would even be an issue

but like i come back like two months later and

these people are very well coordinated they're tr there they know how to network they're like reaching out to all the smaller like

like sort of

they're trying to cancel the ajacent show

there on they're basically trying to cancel p

just so we have the crowd on sy thing i am ok

do you think

that this messaging this petition of theirs

is this actually convincing people and like people are reading this like wow they're right you know i agree with it ah

i think that

in a way they're sure as someone has been a volunteer for them there are problems

but the thing is is to over to anyone who's volunteered for m p p

you would know that a lot of these problems quote unquote are necessary for the functioning of the organization and that by removing these problems you create more problems

if that makes an me set

yeah yeah yeah

no i mean know fllly you know like i fly i just plainly

this is my this is my feear i'm going to tell you what i'm scared of as a sideline or someone whose voice was a matter that much but this is my fear

ok

i saw how burnie's campaign

started to hear about all these demands and shit and he just

he just fucking submitted to everything right

unfolding to the academic people's party actually formed because of the fact that they didn't want to submit

that well this is the thing is that

i think the biggest threat from where i'm standing to people's party internal threat

is these specific types of people who are going to come and make a fuss and do their fake cultural revolution you know like this fake red guard shit where

all these like wok not just wok you would all these like p m c t pipe the band together and they start making demands and slogan eering within in creating these like

sub organization like

parasitical types of

things that wrecking in shit and it's like

the leadership

has a there's always a threat that the leadership seems like wow this must represent the masses we have to pay attention to this

but actually

it's only a tiny loud minority from a grand scheme of things and by listening to them

you're you're shooting yourself in the foot when it comes to winning matches because let me tell you someone who's in the midwest right now

if you listen to these people you will not gain you will not you will not go anywhere in the midwest

you will gain you're going to appease these students

and these like people demanding all this democracy and formalization

and this collor revolution bullshit and it's going to make you weak as fok and very fragile and brittle

when it comes to winning people in the mid west

you know i actually whatan i was atual we were that's actually what

i sorry oh you speak and then i have to say something go yeh

so i'm just i'll just be real quick like take a wild guess

what these people's position like these these are that the ret what the r w leadership position on jimmy dorris like a pick of wa i know i already know i reready know everything

i already know all their politics

i know who these people are i know what they're about and i could glee i could i could deduce that just by gleaming this fucking website i know what people they are

you know yet another another one of these like leader figures like lisa peifer on twitter

like she also is ex military

a former veteran or i guess 's like a veteran

but if they're all ex military only shyly thought one of these people's ex military lisa peifer is also ex she puts it on her twitter profile

look at this look at this this would disgusts me i'm going to read this it leaves many of us feeling that we have been misled in our efforts have been hijacked by an organization

it is not what it says it is ah boohoo instead we often feel that m p p is veering dangerously close

to the kind of elitism that has corrupted the other parties

okay

dude your number one goal is to make m p p

on the map make it big and make it strong and you're preemptively trying to fuck and cock this party by this fear that all we're going to become no better than the democrats pray get on your knees and pray pray you'll have a fraction of what the democrats have

that's the that would be the most revolutionary biggest achievement most unprecedented thing in america right now is if a real wing third party got anywhere and p because i wanted one the party itself

it's a move it's the movement to found the party the power the party will be founded like this summer

that's when the party will be found in god hol you even by the way movement

god help i mean not it's not a it's not a party god help the people who are involved with trying to found that party and god help the leaders of that party because

that's where shit is going to be hard that's where like

do well look if it's going to happen this summer that process of drafting that making that new party

that's where you got to be careful because this is where they're going to try to fucking cack you in fucking shit it all up and fuck the whole thing up

the one thing i gota say

is it

the whole this if this

petition which they won't win because they're now out of the party but if that and they actually went on a fucking bread to podcast

to explain like their position but the m p p was not given any air time

on bredu

on any bread to podcast

but the thing is is that

if if these guys hypothetically won

they would end up being the same

fucking people as the green party

the green party

and i respect some people in the green party i don't mean to diss them but the reason why the m p p is separate from the green party

is because the green party

is focused

on the coastal people heh on the and the green party's been around for how long and where they goten around the six yeah and we hawkins who once founded it

is

we he wasn't even that active with it for a while because

and i respect how i respect jill stein

in fact jill nine is what got me into this whole thing

but the thing is is that jillstein and howie hawk and even howie hawkins

kind of appealed to a more coastal type people the people's party is the people's party in their own platform staates that we must

appeal to the working class

let me let me tell you something though some other word of advice

that as someone from the midwest and like

listen

focusing on the environmental angle and making that

one of the central things is going to fd optics it's going to walk you

it's going to fok not you like it's not go to work it's going to fuck everything up

i get that you need to have a strong policy written somewhere about addressing climate change

but if you get in on the gret a thunberg religion and like obsess over it and that's like your main thrust of how you justify your existence

you will not get anywhere

and i know that right there is a pew this's a very much a coastal sentiment that has no bearing on us i mean people here

and there and there have been other crazy things that i've actually wanted to bring up

in the sphere of politics for example

did you see the recent d s a international committee statement which i'm also on their international committee can you leink here so we can show it ontream

ok so i i linked it in your fucking like come on stream ta ok you're going

you're going to fucking love it ok let's read it onstream

um comm on stream comm on show request

ok so y as you click the tweet

yeah click the tweet yeah

and put on screen for everyone to see because you will see that the d s a international committee at the very least has actually become more based over time

this is the international committee

yes is their international committee i actually serve on it sek it up democratic sources of america's international committee

condemns into the strongest terms

the xenophobia and the push for a cold war with the people's republic of china

that have been all watch so they're actually making the connection

yeah you're actually like seriously they are actually

wat

with

people in the united like

and i know the people who've written the statement and i i'm not going to name any of them because i don't want to yeah i understand like like

i know the people who've written the statement i've

work on the international department

and the thing is

is this is actually one of their best statements they've ever put out they also put out if you check their utter statements just click on statements for a second like

you will see a bunch of other good stuff like u s hands off as well s hands off this or that like they actually take a reasonable anti imperialist position if the international committee was the entire organization

d sa would actually be a real party

right now i see

that's interesting it's interesting that when you focus when you have an international approach

you become like

better politically overall

yeah yeah yeah

yeah

and

the thing is that its in soliary with the farmers of india

they talk about lula in brazil they talk about venezuela

they talk about

putting people's lives for profits all this other stuff

they actually

care about

alsof they actually care about the international committee

the thing is is that the international committee

the only problem with the international committee is that

everything that's posted there must be approved

except for statements must be approved of connections that they actually make and even some statements and tweets every tweet

must be approved by the national committee so i'm surprised that they're actually getting this shit approved by the national

yeah

mean it's not enough for them you've seen the national conventions and w you've seen the that twenty one thousand national convention personal a privilege like you've seen that shit yeah i saw i saw it

like like and if those same people are the same people who are proving this type of stuff

you i actually am pleasantly surprised

and i ironically think

that if you're an m l

don't waste your time

with the small vanguard sect

nctually id may be worth

were engaging with so i

i it this is this is really cool the international committee thing

but it's not enough for me to get over my

i don't listen i'm not one of those mm ls ws like oh i hate the d s a because they're not you know

yeahou yeah but he has issues

bit dark

these things called caucuses the are trying to change the

but i just i just likeink the word democratic socialism is bad optics you know

y of its horal you of got optics which is why

the people's party thing maye yeah that's what i would say i would say i would i could endorse the people's party way before i could do d

because emy

people's party is like name alone it's not it's a lot more ambiguous and another thing theother problem is that

in america the word socialism still doesn't make sense to the actual mass yes you know and i pops party is actually something that could make sense you know

wllly yeah and there's also

and i actually think that ironically

we should be working i and

part of the other reason i want to come on the show was to talk about strategy

yeah in burning question of today

i think that our strategy should be to work with independent political organizations i p o

independent political organizations they're in the big tent of

the democratic party or are outside the democratic party whichever one

but like

within the broad progressive movement not progressive in like the wolkespold sense but progressive in like the broad burnie

and

and in and like the populist sense

idea

or populist movement

work with independent political organizations don't waste your time with these fucking self proclaimed vanguards oh yeah i that's again get to the fucking masses and actually talk

about these independent poli organizations onll ironically the progressive democrats of america

are actually better than the d s a in some ways despite being i don't doubt it i don't doubt it

i don't doubt it i mean so if you're part so the progra and the progressive democrats of america doesn't even have dues

so if you want to participate with them

they are

o good

thevery good alternative to the dsa

cause they actually held some good positions

but these people are trying to even get on to jimmy dor and like

we try that i saw them try to like a

i hear that like these these these are deadly people

they're they they've been invited on to justin jackson's show

and justin jackson is like basically

like a stones thir away from getting on jimmy gore

you know

so like

yeah i mean um

yeah i just i think this it's such a

it's such a fucking problem because

the problem is leftist

the type of person who's attracted to leftism

unfortunle yeah they there they tend to be the wrong kinds of peothle you know

yeah

it's like it's not here it's like you there is the

qinto pro shit that's a real thing but here's another thing

the thing that gets a lot of people into leftism they take it too far they become ultra leftist and that's the source of a lot of wrecking behavior

is ultra leftism were like

people just extend the original logic behind their leftism

and they turn it against

parties that haven't even fucking become

big to rebel against in the first place but they do it anyway

one of the actually i have a lot and i actually think that ironically

the organizations the are the m l organizations like liberation road or c or p c sa or c p sa or whatever are unironically better

then like your average fucking maoist or trotskiest or whatever sex

yeah because

those organizations are considered riightists by those people but they're the people they're one of the few marxist list organizations actually getting shit done

i personally work with one called liberation rod you can search it up

which is which they have a complicated history but liberation road

work is

one that actually places

the oppressed nationality of this country

and they actually have a real analysis of the oppressed nationalities of the country and they place them at the forefront of the move

and that's one of the

that's one of our

their unique like theories

so theyy do they do qk analysis on nations

and then we all sa

libration road that i' have liked is that

they actually try to update mass line for the twenty first century

so that's the other thing i like about them

i we also have to really take seriously the work of the work of online online politics

yeah i mean i'm looking over the i want to also check out the c pusas program and read it for the first time

yeah green and then

and i also recommend you a checkout

the liberation roads program just to compare it

mmhmm

well i'm never i'm never a guy who gets bogged down in etiological weeds

i'm a guy who focuses on success

and

you know

i know i'm not im not you're not going to find me critiquing people because they're like oh they're not you know focusing enough about it's like

it's about power it's about winning power you know

anything the only reason i'm a marxist is because i think marxism is useful

for people to build alternatives to the status quo

but it's not about principles to me

y

and

one

and

the thing is is that

one of the strategies of the c p usa

that you mey

the they

they may or may not disagree with

because he did scroll over earlier

was

defeating the extreme right

that's one of their main there the my big stick with the c p sa is there world war t their popular front misunderstanding of the popular front

yes and that's actually a problem i have

all look like most

but still i would rather have a popular front

in no front at all

but it's not there's no popular front because

it's just trailing the democrats

yeah because they are and that's the problem

we need to we need to we don't i think that

this the correct strategy is

not tilling the democrats

but

working with people who identify as democrats in independent political organizations i don't know you know i'm i don't know i think a third party really means a third party and it means that drawing in a lot of republic we need

h i think that one thing i've been taught

there's a friend i know named carl davidson who was formerly the chair of the s d s if you know their history

and

he

he

he told me his political history about how he went down like a

the rabbit hole he he ended up defending pulelpot once you can find out on the internet of him defending polepot

but

he wt but one he day he realized

that's all these ultra left the sex

did nothing like itd absolutely nothing

in that

we he was bogged down in internal leftist politics

but that he wasn't reaching out to the masses

so what did he do he left all the ultra he stopped making ultra leftist organizations he disbanded the ones that he was a part of

and then

he worked within the c p uusa and eventually formed a splinter of it called

committees of correspondence for democracy and socialism

yeah i mean

i just focus on c pusa because i i'm a simplistic guy you know the're simple there's yt there's a mean there's a mean about socialism in america and democratic sos and i say why don't we rebring back communism with a capital set

yes of course that's pretty much like the linspin of everything it's not

you know but the reason i bring that up is because

i think that

so

i think that

the c p the that's mean that one of the main points is that

we need

to

work within the broader progressive movement and eventually he is

one thing he talks about is instead of building a third party

need to build first party instead of yeah n know i re more center and he s i but here's my issue it's a very practical issue

the problem is that democrats progressives and leftist themselves it's in it's not in their class interest

they don't know how to be class traitors and the old revolutionary intelligencia

thet me tell you something about the old revolutionary intelligencea like in russia

these were people who used to get

who used to were transformed by literature

they would read revolutionary literature

fiction books things like that

and it would transform their lives and they would become class traitors

but yeah nobody's a class trainer anymore everybody always says oh i am the working class i'm a google engineer and that's the type of people you're getting here and there it's not in their class interests and i just i'm not convinced

that you can win over

people who are already calling themselves leftist and mass i feel like that the people who are going to be the raw material of fighters are going to be a political people

and they're going to be rightists they're going to be former right wingers trump supporters and y some of them might be

you know

might be part of the left

but the new the future of the left i don't see it in the existing left

of course and that's the want to kill a mop and slogans one kill mop and slogans is out of the movement into the masses

and i wholeheartedly agree endorse and agree with that yeah

yup

totally

yeah it's like the number one issue is just like it's just leftists themselves it's like

every time and me and evan have

a history here not a huge one but like a minor history

every time i'm with i'm among leftists in person and i was like

you know dealing with them

i had to repress so much caus i was cringing so fuking much

just cringing so hard inside because i knew deep in my heart

do these people will never re the mess no never fucking re the masses they don't funk in a lot of different languale like trustst anarchists they're all the same thing to me

they just don't know how to talk to people like can these people

do they know how to talk to normal people do they know how to talk to trump supporters i don't i don't think they can

i din't even talk to bernie supportter little alone

yeah they don't know how to talk to people i mean like in bernie supporter should be the easiest people to win over i've won over many of them

but

i

and trump supporters

i've even won over

but the thing is is that you don't win them over by screaming at them about how

stalin did nothing wrong or a troots you know i know that i know that trust me we're not me eviden look at me and evan were never like that dude

we never got bogged down in edological we it was always and that my that's why for and that's why despite my differences i do appreciate your work

because

you were one of the few m ls

that's not dogmatic i'm not going to call out the ones who are i'm not niching name yeah yeah but i think that there are lots of people

in this community

who are overly bogged down with dogmatism

yeah it's like we have theoretical positions but we don't confuse those with being practical ones you know so we were were not the type to be like

but at the same time the sword goes both ways like

does an organization need to praise stalin probably not

but doesn't need to condemn stalin no it does not it's just focus on yah you know

it just just focus on its concrete situationt know in the past but not living in it too many people try to live in the past and try and substitute that knowledge for

an organization in my opinion

should be focused organization ok you're roboting like you're six you're bidding again

yes i

mk my mike doesn't just let me discnect to reconnect

yeah

like so many so many m l orks

so many have ls today they

they

they have the abstract you know negative principles in there in their mind they understand those but they don't

they don't do the hard work of

of applying those those abstract negations to concrete reality and coming up with like a positive

concrete plan

because that would actually require more than just reading

you know the the

marxist can and that would actually require understanding the concrete reality that listen

people don't do that here's here's what mls don't get is that this whole marxism thing

isn't about

creating some like religion or principles

marxism is actually a guide

to win

states power

that's what it is it's a guide to win

most to got to action

it's a guide to w it's a guide to not only win states power

but when you win that power to know what to do

what to do yeah you ever heard the phrase marxism is a science or whatever that's exactly what they mean by that that's what they meany like

marks are i don't know i those marks or angles but one of the two literally criticized people who

who would just substitute

and a concrete detailed knowledge of history for just learning like historical material like for example that a marxist doesn't say bernie

you need to become a marxist and therefore change your prciples a marxist would say bernie you're clinging on to too much dogmatic principles and you need to read marxism because marxism what's going to teach you how to win

because

the problem is that people become too bogged down and like the

dogmatic principle of marxism and they miss the point

there are no

there are no axiomatic principles of marxism there's none

that's what people don't get there are no actomaticples like i think and that's why like

and that's why

a lot of maoists have called

liberation roade and myself are visionist because we try to up to i try to

apply mass liine to the twenty first century

and

a lot of these people i call them going to allys they're larpers they're here's a thing here's the thing is for get let me give you example of racism and sexism

marxis don't say

we have some special principle that makes us anti racist marxists say

we reject

the prejudice

that is racism

because it has nothing to stand on

and same with sexism we reject the ways in which

women are actively

oppressed and kept down it doesn't it doesn't introduce some new principle

you reject the principles that exist

that

that are racist and sexist you know

yes

and you become free from them so you could and once you become free from those by the way that doesn't mean you're establishing

some kind of you're making anything positive you're just being free from

the prejudices and then you have a words

it opens up yeah it opens up the ability

do have

interracial or what international dialogue and it opens up the ability

for the relations between genders

to start changing and you know just just just being you know it's just a way to open that up it's not fucking like prescribing some

axiom it's not even saying the axiom of a quality it's not

you know it's people don't get this i just want to say one thing

we learn from many revolutionaries and idolize not

that should be our statement as marxists

ya i mean um

but anyway you know i just wanted to say that h

a lot of times people will like oh

your way to people accuse me of beef being both to leftist and to riight is

that's how i know i'm in the center because like i don't crit sa from the left a way i critiqe them from the right i say what i do your aesthetics

too extreme you your democratic sosm a stupid word you're just whitewashing but on the other ha one capital s center you know

but on the other hand i say we need capital c communism n why do i say that i say because when you call yourself a democratic socialist

you're not owning up to what you're actually trying to say be a capital see communist

and give new meaning to that word

you know

yeah because

marxism leninism i heard this one point a while ago that marxism leninism is the true center

yees exactly it is that

and that's exactly what it was in russia too in the soviet union as well

stalin was the centre

he was between bukarin and trotsky two extremes

yeah

and but karin was the capitalist trot toa solcial leftst yeah and lenin was the same by lenin was also a centrist lenin was in between

the ultra leftist and he was the rights and it reflects in all of his writings too even philosophically in imperial criticism

he's against the

the anti contian riightis and the super contian

you same two sides of the same coin

you know so

i think this is notm this is my critique of c p s a layman's critique

they just adopted the democratic party's talking points rhetoric etiology and platform but give it a communist theme

and there's a wisdom to why they do it they do it because the democratic parties

platform

' is tried and tested and real and it's you know there's power back to by it so the c p s a goes instead of creating some bullshit from scratch like all these other sects s let's look at actual reality and let's try to stay grounded in reality but the c p s a i'm going to critique them from the right now i'm going to say c p s a

you don't understand that the democrats are too extreme in a sense

they are too much airy fairy they're not grounded enough in reality

so by just by copying them you're being too much an ultra leftist

yah

and most workers don't even like the democrats that's what i mean that's exactly what i mean

that the dichotomy or we have to be more extreme left is no no no that's not my point

my point is we have to be grounded in reality means we cannot take for granted the status are you

are you familiar at all with like mexico and how like

and and all mo and and

yeahor now we have a memory we have a member who's yeah yeah

yeah

if you're familiar with that you know that

they won not by calling themselves socialist yesterday had former communist former social solders or stuff but they never called themselves socialist or communists but they still held on

to like

a basic lefting populiust principle they called them they basically framed themselves to be like the mexican version what let me tell you somethy wt people ok we have a lot of so called maoist in the u s but they don't learn from fucking mao

what his contribution to marxis and the im like only let me tell you why though because this is what mou teaches us with the division between primary and secondary contradictions this what mout teaches us

eight

the platform of political power is actually something separate

from the site of proletarian class struggle

you know what i mean by that which means this

amlo

is a broad tent populist party right

moreinos what's called but yeah more sorry i'm stupid moreino yeah almos leader

morena is a broad tent populisust party

and centered around the figure onloo

that is just your political platform that's the left wing political platform

the sit of the proletarian class struggle is within there

so what's the analogy in mouse case in mouse case it's the war against japan your platform is the anti imperialist struggle

the specific proletarian struggle is within that

but that's not the same you you have to have

and an understanding that there's both a primary and a secondary contradiction you're not just waging the proletarian class struggle from the void you have to take the correct position you have to side with the patriotic

a bourgeoisie in a sense

you what that means and we and that what hart

i

is the example of the bolsheviks right yeah winning massive popularity by through their slogan to peace ld and bread also and aligning and lenin's insight that we must align not with the big city liberal bugoisi and not with some pure proletariat which is no such thing we must align with the democratic petite busgoisie in the countryside

in other words we have to create a platform within which class struggle can be allowed to wait be waged

in modern china

is there a class struggle yes but it's a this class struggle is waged

in a subtle way between the cracks

not directly

like

there's two fucking aspects of struggle

there's the direct class struggle

which is actually never direct but always subtle

and then

there's this secondary contradiction between establishments and people's parties

and or anti imperialist part same thing

and that where one is subjective in one is objective

yeah where with the site of like

what would be today's you know peace land and bred site of struggle in the united states

we're oreselves trying to figure that out but here are some leads we're looking at because there's theoretical ways to think about this with direct one is land is housing we don't i'm not don't don't don't quote me but this is lead these are leads tore hunches and suspicions

we can think of land as housing the housing crisis in america

so some type of housing reform real estate reform for tenants and people

something like that because there is a real estate crisis and there's a housing crisis in america especially for the younger generation

then

there's this thing of u b i

now that's really complicated for me to explain why u b i is similar to land

but it is basic income it is it's similar to what land is because land is some kind of guarantee for having a economic ground and you b eys the saing

but it's more complicated there's that

then yet the health care there's health care

then there so we end up realize yeah there's education we end up realizing there's a ton of things

there's a ton of different things

so what now we have to realize is how do we find

the center that coheres

all of this multifaceted aspects of land reform now let me tell you what the iranian revolution can teach us

the shah

of iran

attempted a direct land reform where he gave people land

and omeni

it seemed like he was reaction and we said no we're not going to we reject this right

and the iranian revolution there was no demand for land reform that was its basis so what was going on

after the iranian revolution i know there was a lot of bad shit that happened they imprisoned leftists they killed communists

but still you have to pay attention to this after the iranian revolution

elements within the iranian government

we're starting to have a debate about land reform after they took power let's let's give people land

and then

there wasn't a specific exact land reform but afterwards the iranian government started engaging in intensive

and specific multi faceted ways

of supporting the iranian people opening up opportunities giving out business loans and master it's all this multifasceented

multifaceted

ways

in which the government in iran was now closer connected to the people

and that was the land reform the land reform wasn't a direct giving out land

it was

it was i'm going to sound ridiculous if i put it this way but

it was it was something that happened

during the during the revolution

that was at this kind of common abstract almost idiological common site or spiritual religious common site

that now interpolated all of the iranian people on a new found basis and opened up the ability for the government

to cohre all of the multifaceted aspects that are the equivalent of a modern land reform

because you think about it there's not one thing that's land reform

it's a bunch of things

so the actual sight

of really a like an actual land reform

it seems to me it's like

it's almost

it's almost like idiological now you know i don't fucking it's like you need psycho analysis or something i kind of sound ridiculous now but

yes but

is it what with that

because land reform land reform is very psychological because it's about trust

and it's not just psychological thing

it's yeah it's not just psychological but i mean is like

it's about

giving people

the actual basis

of the economic ground of the means of production and trusting them with that and it's a basis of mutual trust

and thats that game of mutual trust is also happening

in iranian revolution

because when everyone has access to the common source code of the whole state which is the religion

but you know we're going to get into like french philosophy bullshit at this point

you know talking about that

sign symbolic word but i just want to like illustrate how

complex this simple question of like what is our land reform today

what doesn't seem like anything could happen without without you know like

people's party and one of the biggest obstacles is

like you talk with

but i've also spoken with a lot of like bernie sanders supporters and ma they're just so taken in with the whole lesser evil stuff

here's o sorry let me say one more thing

here's something i learned

this is something we all learned from the soviet collectivization

there's no such thing anymore as just blank check land reform where you just give people land

and that's all because

having land also entails our kind of socialistic era

having a having a relation to the

apparatus that supporting land at tractor stations

without the tractor stations land is useless

and tractor stations is a way

governments states interface

with the independent

quote unquote independent proprietors and support them

that's why today

let you can't have like a classical liberal land reform that's just going to give people property

blank check

you have to give people something

but that something also has to be a guarantee of certain

you know medicare and

loans and education and fucking universal income you know all these kinds of intensive

it you have to win these reforms or to win people over you know whre you have to tap into the the heart of what unites all of those things

and right now with when it comes to left wing politics in america the thing this is the this is our problem i'm going to tell you our problem exact fucking problem right now in america

we have a lot of so called struggles in the democratic party right medicare for all is one

and then but they also include a bunch of cultural stuffl b t racial stuff and the democrats say this is intersectional it's all

it's all on the same level

that's the fucking problem in america is that you need a marxist analysis to show you that these are not on the same fucking level one of them is cultural and the other one is about this whole land reform thing

and the when it comes to the land reform thing

medicare for all we need a new center that unites all of the central transformative land reform economic demands that actually coheres

what

u b i

housing reform

medicare for all ed what what unites all of that together what is the platform that unites all of that together because right now the american left

what unites it all together is subjective morality personal feelings

university education bulshit source coded

and the

being a good person you know it's fucking stupid you know we needed a new center

that can cohre and to me big sea communism it's not the best one that we're going to have in america but for me that's a stand in for that big sea communism is our center

my fantastical imaginary one it is capital c communism it's the fucking thing that unites all these things together that's what communism in america means this is why i believe that what we should do is this

we should we found the left in a way

in a way that like the left is kind of dead in america

i considered love to be a dead in america

not a thing it's fucking rotting man it's a rotted door running corn roting but if un for qu is lump in a way

because it can be revived

and

but we need to revive it with new ideas new theory

knew all these hard to things

need to revive the left

but not the old not the left that got us here in the first place

we need to revive but we need to make

not a new left in like the fucking herbert mccuss on nine hundred sixty seve but a modern

let's just call that a modern well that's why we are wole stick

do the reason we focus on china and russia

isn't because we're like those other mmls who substitute having a good

for domestic politics with

dick writing off oathers we genuinely think we have to learn from china

like we have to fucking learn from them because look i just mentioned land reform the land reform in china right now is pings housing reform where he's giving people ownership over single unit apartments

yeah and with this poverty alleviation program we have to learn from china and also russia we have to learn from these countries

to build an effective political alternative because as you can see

by how i've been covering the news

anti establishment politics in the united states is directly tied to these civilizations and the way that they overcome liberalism

yh there are actually other countries

not other countries there are actually other countries and other socialist examples

of countries

that have basically overcome

the question of nation and nationality and all their stuff and the natural question

thk

that one of the ways that socialist countries have typically done this throug like autonomous oone or s s rs or whatever

and i feel like that the socialist so it's not just like the lam reform hous yeah yeah it's other things too it's also the national question in america

and the natural question

is so

fundamental to

lenin's idea of imperialism and lenin's idea

of

of how the world works so i think

that

if we sa in a so in a socialist america i think

that anyone who

i think that we need

to believe need to give

the chicago people we need to give

the the new african population like the other population

the letter

oppressed populations

we need to give them

we need to give them say in how

give them say in their own communities that'sh i'm one hundred percent with you one hundred percent with you

and yeah the thing is is that

i think that

there is one thing that a lot of people forget

you cut out

there's too extine yeah there's one thing a lot of people forget and it said

there's two extremes to this anti ipoll thing

there is the intersection list which we've obviously talked about

but then there's like the fucking like

anti nation and you like you know how vosh once debated this one like

black

this one black person about how he should have a nation or whatever how he should have autonomy be nationalism the we youre talking to the guys who get accused to be in osbles yeah yeah but like

well like to two fucking extreme extreme anti it poll like osh

and he but also but he's also at the same time extreme intersectionality

yeaha yeah yeah

like he's both at the same time

and there are people who are one at the same time but osh is an example someone is both let me let me ok let me go on record for something

in america right now the number one idiological enemy of marxism is intersectionality

the number one idiological enemy of the american left is intersectional ideal ideology

ight

i

i couldn't agree more

i mean the whole marxism is literally useful

materialist dialectic dialectic thinking

is literally useful

to allow us to overcome this garbage intersectionality

like intersectionality

the one like

not only like there's many problems with intersectionality besides the obvious shit like from a from a hegel or a marxist perspective from a philosophical analysis

these things don't just like the how interest like they talk about how you things intersect or whatever it is the ideology of technocrats

p m cs academics and soce like pres i heard like fucking mike bloomberg supporters talk about fucking intersection yah like it's people who want to do busy work micromanaging every fucking aspect of our lives and i you our loverem

you read a stream on this re you on this earlier on the stream i saw you read an article about like intersectional imperialism or whatnot yeah and like

intersectional imperialism is a term i love to use to these fuckin like oh yes queen more drone strikes on syria

like you like

like i work with fucking democrats and republicans but that doesn't mean i'm not cretic critical for fucking parties just make that one thing clear

i'm not really i am

fucking critical of both parties

that's why we want a people's party

yeah dude

and it's so important that the people's party is centrised in a way centrised from below

in this just in the strict sense that it's not just going to be to the left of the democrats it's also going to be a new center

y that people will clearly be able to identify as

something different

you know it's realtablish a new point of reference yeah

yeah but to the left in the sense that it's like not neoliberal oh yeah objectively it will be to the left hundred per cent but

not the current attorney building the center yeah yeah it's not going to be the current what's currently associated with the left is what i'm trying to say

you know

yeah like

like the thing is that i just saw comment saying slavery was woke like

like if these people existedoack then they'd be trying to find a way to like make slavery they literally did dude in the south they did

that's how they justify it was moral terms that basically like

oh well it would be irresponsible the slaves had nothing

and you know we take care of them we're nice to them in our house

and you know they have even more rights than thean our o these yars and bolic

it is all symbolic it's all symbolic gesturing

and it's not reaching to the actual demand of these people you surprised

southern antibellum aristocratic culture

one hundred percent the democrats are returning to that foundation of yes yeah that's the foundation of the democratic fuking party'es

hill fucking

yeah

in i actually bucking

buto

on irly just the way typ onicly one day and i'm probably going to i'm probably going to get trouble for saying this later well on ironically

we should

as as marxist

and her

we should be entering these independent political organizations

challenging the fucking leadership have you you are familiar with the nick fts couiper thing

right the groper war

the greper war ah th i think we should do that on the fucking left i'm oner one of the convinced of that i got no issue with want to think the whole reason why i came on here in the first place on this whole server was that i wish some big influencer would one day challenge the fucking

sa the fucking democratic party

and would actually

we would actually try to fucking challenge their we're not going to make them fucking comfortable in their positions of power we will challenge their fucking positions of power

jude

yeah dude mean

i'm not going to like disclose the history or whatever but me and evan

we got falked over

bad du

balked over bad

by these snakes

you know tkes everyone they completely slandered us

one day i might tell this story on stream because i want to speak my truth

because i've been fucking silent about this forever

he i got to soting i got no problem

yeah it was fucking disgusting what they did to us

because i felt like that one day

this whole fucking stream i feel like that one day if i ever become prominent on the left if i ever which i don't think i will but if i ever become prominent

then

the problem is

somebody is going to take this fucking clip

somebody sd go back in time find this fuk like the use like a time machine or something take this bucking clip let me let me say this much overc loking establishment yeah and a fucking us this to discredit me until i let me say this much

an organization

completely blacklisted us

and i couldn't speak out for years

because we were threatened

with legal shitp

if i said any

said any type of concept anything was the more egg shell any god

a nightmare

is it a small one or is it a big one justli

i don't want to name the ord because

just tell me if it's small or big

it's big

i

oh i probably have an idea of who it is

yeah

yeah it was so falked up what they did it was literally the most fucking just literally for a year

i was literally almost nihilistic disillusioned i was like this is how leftis are they're literally like this

they're this disgusting and they did something that i didn't even know was possible like i didn't even know left to do this shit

and i was like what the fult

no it's not the p s l don't worry don't guess guys ok one day i'll tell you guys what happened

it's for a grilla story grilla fire camp chat yeah it would be like a fire camp chat i'll tell you something drama

and it was literally the most fucking disgusting thing

and it made me give up on any real world contact with leftist to this day for the rest of my life

and what the thing was that was so deceptive about it was that we actually thought that we were dealing with the left

yes that was what was so eye opening too

we actually thought we were dealing with the left not t

parasites academic parasites

we were actually like good faith actually comoe delusioned yeah you become delusioned by them

mean how many people join the left and they just they just

meet this fucket nasty

oh this this disgusting sick

ugliness and then they just

they just wuck in

we give up

the you think

they become nihilistic they just treate it like a game like

me to like just just just don't take anything seriously and then like honestly i think a lot of the a lot of the sort of irony poison comes from that it's just like a defense mechanism from

from just

how shity the internet is

yeah

so

i don't mean to laugh sor but the thing is i'm just nervous you know

the like the thing is is that like

the whole problem with

leftism

in with leftism right now

is what you described

that

in the fact that

the qal the

the

you have

what's called careerism careerism is very fucking prevalent and somebody say can someody say the fucking fraud squad careerism isn't just them there are people who will enter like the fucking let me just say this there are people who enter the sa not because they fucking agree with the d sa but because it's another fucking like name on their resume w they can you if you storm into a party with new ideas

and you like

you're like you actually challenge people in shit

like how you sad

they will literally smear you

and pull something out of their focking ass

made up

completely made up

completely baseless and theo literally just

put it out there with no shame

and they'll just they wont even think anything of it they'll just make something up with about you and they'll believe it

they'll fucking believe it

just because

just because

because superficially you fit the bill

and they will literally do that left this look at read to look at fucking bread toubob the lie and makes it up about us already

that's how fucking leftists are they literally are fucking liars they are fucking liars in their soul in their heart they're falking liars and they have no shame making shit up and smearing you and putting that on your fucking face and they have no shame about it whatoever

lk when i was when i was going up against these ar de people on on first the the p p slag and then on twitter the

they're just making up the most fucking insane chit about me

do david it's like it's like i got sometimes well ca exaggerate listen listen people

people can exaggerate and people can twist things

but left us alone literally lie they make shit up

from not ings people from not people here they heared to discourd screenshot

but it like if you look at the screenshot it's clear that the person i was talking to deleted all their fucking comments

so that is just basically like us just just me typing one line after another after another after another and they're taking one part of this and they're trying to smear me smear me with it

and

i think that sorry

i think that there is

more time yet

i think that

honestly

has i'm just go to say this

i

i

we had drama for a while

but i'm willing to i i think that who cares it's water under the bridge yeah yeah i will say one thing

i wasn' wanting

i think that

after after hearing you say all this

i actually have learned

i actually think of you more as a human being and less of a constant creator and in

i think that

and you mentioned on the earlier scream that like

showing

a

the showing like the beauty in this world will be crushed by the ugly

in a way you're right but in a way

there are other beautiful things in this world that exist

yeah

gana

it's just the fragile you know

yeah it's just fragile

and

the thing is is that

one day

i will i've been

people in who know me

who know me they know me

and the people who know me on finbles commun and elsewhere accuse me of oh you keep on switching organizations you keep on

changing your ideology

because i don't know where to fucking go do i don't know what anybody knows

anybody who's just one hundred percent set and complete dude we haven't accomplished anything you know we'll look at the state of the left in america

i don't know where to fk to go on the left yeh for these people for the people that are already that already have chosen and like like pledge

feelty to an order

thein think

where the receit of believe that they that they are like currently working for the vanguard ordan that will carry forward

carry out the revolution

dude but then they'll become disillusioned it will be like oh marxism was all dumb shit

that's how it happens like they

they eventually realize it's absurd i could have realized that it yesterday you know it took me an hour to realize it was stupid

takes them to life it's just it's

the left isn in total ideological shambles it's like there's just utter confusion

in the last

well dude we identified bread tube

as like

one of the main

things that are

that are the detor w

like the barrier to entry to socialism is just being

fucking

the didn't g higher and higher you know

yeah

but theyk but see like this is one of

like

i don't know like you know when caleb says out of the movement to the masses

if he's including bread tube in the movement

we we

we have to go through bread to we have to smash right through them in order to get to the masses because

right now bread tube is like the only

the only connection that that that

the people have with the left is basically through bread to

the promise of the bread tube

pretends to safeguard like the true essence of marxism and then i even see a lot of mls i just feel like are like

yeah we agree with bread too but we're going to slap on some more additives like anti imperialism

to the mix that's like this is a fundamentally

this is a fundamental misunderstanding of marxism that red tube is peddling

ow

i would actually

i would like to see this

the one

pot the one thing about marxism

that makes me still a marxist

is that

the idea

that

the only constant is change that something will change eventually we just don't know when yeah

but right now it's clear that bred tupaz has

adapted their strategy dealing with us like

they understand that essentially our growth was basically through

you know these big one on one debates that you know you has

i've had with with

you know these these

the giant saw on bread tube

and essentially they they've just blacklisted us

like at this point it's like

i think that we have to think

think of this conflict not not just in terms of

you know bread tub erss infrared or bread to versus tankis like on the level of

you know individual content creators like you know you going up against wash it's basically

our community going up against their community yeah that's that's it's what's happening and you know what

that's why the need jusjump the fuck out of there that's why right now i want despite that we're blacklisted

we're still in their heads because of our community and we're still in our heads also on like a personal existential of like

i threw vosh i feel like i threw him into like a type of

existential crisis and i i represent it's money but scary at the same time

what it is a i'm waiting to see like vosh what is the worst you could do because i've ok i've incurred the worst of your wrath and i want to see what you got like

y i mean you word beause you know if he

my fear

is that

because

i my fear is that one day

somebody is going to use this fucking conversation

and try to discredit me in the future ss i you don't don't don't fuck and where you want it to you didn't say anything wrong

yeah

a like i'm just saying basic hooking markis thing

yeah

you know if i were bred peop i think the worst that they could do is basically just ignore us

like the they're going to

i think they're going to try to start out you know the beginning of the communist efs a specter of europe a specter is haunting europe you know what

i would like to reframe that to a specter is haunting you tube the specter of infrared specters spectersing bread yeah in a sense that like

and then in that

in the next line the comunisman festo it says

they accuse each other of being communist or whatever

and

just like now how in the you tube accuse each other being tankies

yeah without

because like and how like tankys are the new power in you tube you know you power shes new unspoken power bosh is endless dud

listen

these bredsho people keep laughing at tankies but actually evaluate the past few weeks

there's no more hot topics for them to have it's literally just this civil war

where now they're going to have to fight tankys because they got their biden elected and just bitching about biden all day

it's not getting them anywhere show receipts so

jimmy dor and tankies that's going to be the prime time subject of bread tub and they have they literally real can't control it

it's only when they'll make money it's only they'll get views and they uphold the system just as much as the d n c does

tank listen tankyes cannot be ignored like we are the only thing

we're the only subject they can talk about

you know and actually and actually one thing i got to tell you about is

communists in the one nine hundred twenty s worked within the italian fascist trade union and even within the party itself

communists worked within

the fascist trade union

therefore

i think that as we should be working within even reactiony trading

as lennon himself would say yh we should be working with in

in for god forbid we should be working with the more progressive elements of the democrats we should be working with the more progress sometimes we thought about

can the republican party be transformed i don't think it can be because it's too infested with no i know i know i agree but

we a these ier sing republican party rath fox like the democrats we entertain the idea of you know we thought about you know cause because here's why i would tell you why because the republicans

were founded

by lincoln and so we know that whole history

and then also the republicans

there was because the democrats are thugs like democrats going back to the reactionary southern democrat party

it's because they're getting all these white suburban voters

rich suburban voters they're becoming that kind of party again

and then we also said maybe the republican party can also change because that was the party of lincoln and trump completely realigned the politics

so maybe there's an opportunity but we we decided it wasn't

possible but

we at least entertained it you know

yes

and i think that one thing that can be done i actually think that like the silent majority of democrats

and i like and i mean e a soilent majority in this context

i think

that

bernie voters who are not

overly

intersectionalist

are the are the file those are let me tell those are

with the twenty sixteen bernie voters

yeah yeah exactly

twenty i'm voters twenty sixm forty voters we the actual tilt majority yeah you're right you're right a lot of them went to trump a lot of them didn't vote at all but a lot of them with third party

but they're the people

but if we get them if we are able to reunite them that will be a huge feat yeah f le dude i'm one hundred percent with you on that und y and and most these who are still active most of the ones that you'll find in real life

are usually active in like activism but not like

the type of activism that leftists are involved with they're usually involved with like

like housing issues

or

union activism

or that type of shit the shit that actually gets stuff done

the like the activism that actually is the one passing reforms that help their lives that's those are the activists who we must reach out to

but that's why we need to have like

there needs to be an overarching organization that can pull all these local struggles together and unite them

on a national level

because just going locally

like

there's a lot of these local struggles but how many of them actually succeeded how to get anywhere

when they're dealing with

when the poe that they're dealing with is is

national and you know global

yes

and

the thing is is that

a lot of the

jimmy dor people and i've talked to jimmy dor fans

a lot

and i look at the comment section every time because i watch his videos all the time i have i'm in this community i'm a fun i'm like a

integral part non integral but i'm like a part of their community i've integrated myself into jimmy rre fan

jimmy dor fan

are

working class in not only in their actual status because a lot of them are like southerners midwesterns

but also because a lot of jimmy dar fans

come from working class areas

and

also their working class in our attitude yah i thingk yeah they think

that

that

the system as a whole is corrupt

and therefore we need to find party but that the green party and that the currently existing third parties like the libertarians or whatever are controlled opposition

but that we need to do something new

need to b that we ned like we need to do what emlo did in mexico as the

people parti themselves to say and rebuild the whole political tablishment from scratch yeah i me dorself he's not he's not militant enough like he's on the right track but like

he like when he did force the vote he actually thought forc the vte would work

like he's hes he's a comedian you know it's not his job to be

and plus it was all i like to the people like outiders people like outsider that's why trump got elected

yeah i mean he's not naive that's you know he's not naive it's just you know like he portrayed himself to be good faith

about the force the vote to set an example like the point was

you should have no problem doing this if you are

real progressives

and by the way

he's right because force the vote may not have worked

but if aosi and the squad did rebel against pelosi

they would have just created a new fault line around which progress y this rally

and and you know actually allow progressives to be distinct

from

establishment democrats exactly

it would have it would have basically burned any bridges between the progressives in congress and the polosi center yeah and it would have been a new thing to rally around you know

it would have it would have been so good for the movement it would have inspired so much energy and activism like a o c has the gll to like come out and tell people to go go go fucking you know organize and volunteer and work like another fucking shift after the their their full time job getting exploited

but then like you really want if you really want to to get people fired up you know actually go against the fucking democratic yeah yeah

if you listen but do not disregard the fucking democratic voters

or

and i don't mean like the fucking like intersectional

imperialist i do got to i wish n i just want to row the average republican voter you talk

who never who's barely at meetings

but who still who never goes to democratic meetings

but still votes for the menu

those are people n to be i mean it's it's

those people are probably important but i think they're a minority of the democratic party's base because

if you look at the elections

the people who got bit into power were rich white suburbanites

and yeah professional managerials and then it's like so youah gota we got to have a marxi t we have to have a marxi party we have to have a marxist class intensive analysis

un homly democratic voters are the crisis of there's

sorry there's also i think like like like large sections of the black commuty including the working class of thot democrats a b like glad that that's the black community then that's a that's the n question that's a whole that's a whole national yeah yeah det with a separate time but like the i separate time we need to be dealt with now separately yeah but needs to be dealt with by those people themselves

mm

well it's a different puzzle thing is a different pyh the thing is that like freed and this goes back into my original point which is

freedom can only be obtained

by

the

by

the

by the oppressed themselves

no one can oppress and no one can oppress anyone but the oppressors and no one can free anyone but the oppressed

right now the oppressed the exploited lack lack any political power they wit have

the don't have a political organ to express their will

but that's our job as marxist is to build the ical power for our class

and that's why'd like a populus party is so badly needed

because like like it's not enough to simply launch a twitter campaign against a o c in the and the progressives in congress because like they get muchit all the time anyways from the right they mak it's so easy for them to just ignore it

like

we what jimmy dor is pushing now which is like what's it called a

he's he's threatening to tell people what he's telling people not to not to donate to any democrat including theggressives that's a start

but i don't i think even that is not enough

i think you have to basically say

you have to basically

be ready to go to fucking war and go if you if you a s you know

the

you

progressives

you the squad if you don't actually

stick to what you ran on

and run against the fucking party establishment then we will ensure that you lose your fucking reelection even at the cost of electing a corporus democrat or even a fucking republican

yeah i mean it's a lot of things are optics that's the answer i you thing lefty is fair that is bad optics and i think that what would be better is to try and unseat like moderate or and unseatre i don't knowther part people people need people

leftists don't understand leftist have a lot of metaphysical confusions and they don't understand like

how this new media environment works and how politics works in this new media environment

ya and they have a lot of naive ideas and i just think um

you know it's not always directly about the thing itself

yea

and

i and

i think that

what needs and i think that

there is actually an interesting article i read about how the u s is

in reality a six party system and it says that there are three factions within the two parties

and three

yeah the

the

basically it's a graph that shows like all like the different there's a big graph i can

i'm i'm going to find

who's the third in the republicans there's a neo cons and paleo cons and the religious nationalist that's the third party religious ones

yeah like religious nationalists

you will be surprised

they play a huge role in fact when bernie was first running his first campaign he would actually go to evangelical colleges to speak about socialism

wow

the religious

and then what about the democrats there's the bernie and there's the yeah i see who ok there's the there's the moderate in the blue dog

with a moderns in the blue dog

where the blue dogs are basically conservative democrats ah

they're like like the swing voters like those th you're right that is a division you're right ye

they are a simping butter

it is like the swreing voters

okay

the swring voters tend to vote in favor

the swing voters tend to vote in favor

of

take

the swing voters tend to vote in favor

of

actually let me i found the article let me send it right now

in comancho request

okay

the swing voters tend to vote in favor of either conservative democrats or conservative republics

mmhmm

yeah like like blue dog democrat i just sent you the graph which basically shows like

like the right wing the three the three there are three factions within the republic

the g o p tent which are

the establishment yield liberals which are like ryan romney

but the bush family

the global what they like to call the globalist

the christian nationalists such as like glenbck mike pence and in the right wing populace such as bandon trump

those people

and within the left

or the democratic t it's a blue dog bipartisan

like

fucking who's that one guy from

west virgina

just tell me who that w i west virginia and check the sho comment san co requt comment a request to actually show like

the people this grafh but

but like oh yeah whoever oh yeah the

the mansion yeah mansion

mansion from

from west virginia he is the blue dog bipartisan he is or he is

a military kynesian or

the big money people or what he will he

and some in

and you

and

in some unions

surprising there are some unions that surprisingly support

the blue dog oh i know that i know that yeah

yes

then there's a third way neo liberals the third way neo

than the neo candians like clinton ancy pelosi youre these are thes the clinton are the enemy

these are people like

howard dean onward together

a the new democrats

the big money

the f l c i o leadership not the membership leadership

the the the

some meings of the n w c p

like

these people

and although the end of c p can be radical in some cases there are some parts of it that are also but the leaderships very neo liberal because i turned on my fucking ex box once and i saw and c p was offering you i've beennoringord i've been ignoring that i always thought it was only two

you actually open my eyes that there is three

there is fucking three

there's

there's these and blue dogs

and there's these christian nationalists that i've been forgetting about

yeah

the fucking christian

like the christian nationalists

like like the christian nationalist

play a huge fucking role

in our politics

so much

to wear like

the like the focus on family

the

sory the focus on family

there

the christians the kolch ruthers all these people

you know they all do

there are all

a huge

it didn not

they are huge in terms of like

how

they operate

like these church

these churches

like we like we sink if you live on the west coast

you think that we're secular

but go to go anywhere outside of the coast

and you'll learn that we that religion still plays a huge influence over family over society over many things

we still live

in a religious society

many americans are still christian

there are more to lim in the goust ash ok like always play influence

you go out of the city you know go go into the suburbs and like

here in the de south you can't

you can't drive down like like you can't turn down a street without running into another church there're so many churches down here

yup

and

the one thing is that

and the one thing about

the blue dogs

another b dogs a christian nationalist is that

these mega churches will always play huge influence in our pault

as long as we have religion organized religion these mega churches will always play a huge part

and therefore i think by disregarding christian nationals i think

instead of trying to win over the right wing populace which will never work

nor the es stablishment you llliberals i think religious people in america are the most honest of the g o p tent the most honest and there like the largest majority

by a large assum

by huge amount there's no competition they s they shouldn't even be a separate political block this is

it's attest to the incompetence of the left

yhs a whoy separate thing just defined by religion

yeah yeah

and then

pap

u

so

so

uh you saw there i'm okay

so i'm just talking some

oh yeah we actually have to on the streams the thing that's thats to cut it short but we do have ok in the stream so

okay just one more thing and then

the tent that exists in the democratic party that forgot to mention but you already know is the social democrats the the left wing of all these things

these are

the social democrats in my opinion the social democrats and the and the christian nationalists are the two people from eacht tent that we need to look at the blue dogs the right wing populists are towo are two extreme

the third way their class base who's there who's the class base of the blue dogs a lot of unions that you mention right

o some unions some unions are mainly trading

but like

some building trades

but like but who are who's their main class base we have to be marxists you know we have to thatments i would say that

i say that the main like if you want a real working class base the ule is just nationalists are where you should go

but what about the blue dogs who are their class base

some i've actually talked i had the opportunity to talk to a blue and this is relevant i had the opportunity to talk to a blue dog

like

yesterday

and i asked him why are you a blue dog he says these establishment liberals

and he doesn't even say socialst he just says liberals he's establishment limousine liberals

you are not in touch with us

so a lot of blue dogs in some states are working class that's what i think too i think that too

but the people we should definitely oppose are the third way neo liberals the neil canty i agree with dre liberal in both parties yehth party but the also another issue is that the social democrats their class base

is the p m c

some yes some no

like like there's a the social democrats are such a huge tent

like

in itself that like the d s a obviously are p m c

yeah but like

but like

then you go to like movement for people's party which has a lot of working people from my experience the union a lot of nurses for example the nurses union are social democrats

and there

working class by all

yh it's true it's like there's a big there's a big divide within the m p p itself over like

like

there are working class people on the one hand

and then there are the m p p there are the p mc people on the other

and theyve the

basically went on any like

it doesn't matter really on what issue it there it's there really is a classified

basically the p m ces in the in the in the movement take one side in the working classic the other

and then the

it's always importan to focus on that peasantry you know that that national peasantry

that you know

that stalt always focused on the middle peasant so you've got to focus on the middle peasantry

yes

and i think that one day

i think that one day

we need to reach out to the religious part of america

that that that that doesn't participate in politics often but is still

believes in the religion and i think that

and i think that if we

as socialists we should frame our rhetoric

not as like this

not in like the petty bushe midle sense class because we are too you have too many of those but the pas in middle class

like the like the peasant middle class a like

the the the rule the lorder like the people who are

religious

who are the majority of america now me by middle i

falling into the working class

well it's there's not a strict distinction between working class and and middle c and middle class means different things you know

middle class oftentimes meant the unionized worker factory worker

so it means different things it just means different things but

i hate to cut it short but we do have to wrap up the stream but uh thank you guys for coming on it was really insightful really interesting we're going to have more streams like this oky thank youy he yeah

i on more about strategy

we're going to analyze the

what's going on in these different parties and we're going to get this ball rolling you know

heh yeah

be sure

all right see you guys

i feel

see i'm ok thanks for being on

see

bye

um

you want to stay for another eight minutes so it's a total four hours or you want to

ah yeah let's get it let's do the four hours are

ya might as well might as well

i mean not not

not another four hours another six minutes

another four hours

imagine

do people be on here for like thirty six hours is that a real thing these thirty six hour streams i'm going to do one one day

this summer i'm going to do a twenty four hour stream

my god

or thirty six hour and i'll start during like four pm

and i'll stream all day

jesus o rce ah i'm going to do it there time

i'm going to folk and do it

but im

you know

did you see the fuck in justice league

no no no i didn't when i looked at it and i saw that it was the same i didn't even see the first justice leae but when i saw it was just

the same movie by a different guy

changed it was different dude they hear that yes it's ior it's a different movie

' a totally different wy

so you like it though

i liked it it is it was in a quality like not from a film critic perspective

and i gave my criticisms but

and it was too slow burn a little bit but at the end of the day i liked it i thought it was enjoyable i enjoyed it

yeah

h man i always take your recommendations with movies so maybe i'll

it's not great it's like a six out of

ten you know

in four hours i idnight god

itll just like

the i just watch you know if you get bored you can exit out

but if you're interested keep watching

yeah yeah i'll check it out i'll check it out well we all need to get h b o max because king congvers godzilla is in

three days

rsday com what's the possibility is there a pot oh probably not

thatill definitely get shut down oh we can't stream it i thought about it sh's not chrit

can we like sidetream it like not actually stream of but still stream you know we cant is long as we don't show any audio or video

i could like watch it on stream and react to it in real time and we could do yes

but it's not going to be practical to coordinate that with everyone

ya no no there will be too many um

too many stops too many interjections

yeah

but i was thinking about that the other day that would be that would be cool to have

similar to like the gaming but do something like that with movies or shows or something

we're going to have a post right

react stream where we all

react you know what really we in the internal collective

we did this before we can fucking

stream it's internally and watch it yeah yeah we did that with fucking the

what movie you watch

what was it

we did it with love craft

lovecraft country we did that last

this is before he even streamed anything

yeah we can do that again

that would be cool that would be cool

i'm geming for it

but we got to figure something out yo that would be fun

see

the fulk and copyright chit

just stymies any type of creativity and any type of

cool shit

you got all these fucking barriers that come out

yeah

but

will make it work either way

fok copyright dude

foxox

they always say they're like oh this is to ensure creative integrity this is no i've never been

sofa in food

frustrated and

unable to create

as i'm trying to work with

carpyright ship

dude you have no idea what i'm trying to choose a song for stream

i'm always fucking worried like u

fork thish

i can't play music

exactly is what consid

no

i can't even always play the song

i'm not

fucking

i'm not releasing the song a new i'm not you know

putting out a cd

i'm just fuckin listening to it on it's just ons stream i don't understand what the problem is

but your twitch is banning people left and right

for a lot of dumb fucking shit

yeah ma'm

yeah dudes is is this is a damn platform twitch

o we're not getting partnered on this platform

we do man we really do need something there's got to be

people will be in the chat i've seen it before they'll say something like

infrared is the platform

if it's really got to be like that something new

well internet two point zero is around the corner and it's going to change everything

you know

yeah

but

you know i was thinking

which is so away

let's think about someone's arraide

i just read as soon as our viewers dropped like twenty people

i'm like you know what let's raid someone

we got three minutes to decide who we're going to raise

should i raid b x bullet

nots harassment

mhp

who's on

i don't fulk and know

i'm looking right now

b x bullets on that's why i just saw that

some reason theyre recommend

this is a recommended channel

whose wet shrimp

yeah i see that one too any suggestions in the chat who got suggestions

um

hey it's the it's the the bernie girl

you probably don't know what this shit it's the one who went on

what's the song

boomer ok boomer

you know that

she made a song

i don't know what

it blew up on twitter

she screams now

hold on okay boomer twenty five don't okay don't jop that so

heckler

during climate speech

hanging

no no i'm not going to look at it

if i'm if i'm if i'm too late i'm too late i got to accept that

byd the impulsive side of me like the

chaotic part of me just wants to raid bullets

but

you know we're running out of time though so that one's got to be i think it's got to happen now

hold on

it's got to happen now

i mean is is is

we're pushing it

we were going to drop it forur

we got thirty seconds

okay

there's so much coomer streams

i try to ust filter them

a lot of streams for losers

um

i'm looking

right

raid

t

yup

raid

come on anything interesting please just show me something interesting

show me something interesting

anything

anything interesting

what's the cayo show

i'm looking through tho

is moist critical

the schiller institute

are they on t which they're not on twitch right now

it's time to rate destiny

now we' got to go back ho my

your dreams are like analogies like people will represent positions and debate i don't know i do't know i believe in well i mean there must be some connection to your dream