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No, go ahead

Yeah, so where was I?

Yeah, another mistake that you're making is you're conflicting this reality that there can either be the state where anarchists are fucking nothing, and then all of a sudden extreme anarchism where anarchist is an anarchist state

and the whole state is an anarchist state

it doesn't work like that

anarchism is also about

the struggle to achieve anarchism

just like Marxism is about

the struggle to achieve actual

eternal struggle to walk in the image of perfection we're trying we're trying we're trying we're trying to be better but we just can never reach it i I don't give a fuck about that.

Why can't reach it?

I just told you a motherfucker who...

I don't give a fuck about that.

That's some fucking cope for fucking fat asses who fucking do yoga.

Fat-ass guys who fucking do yoga to get pussy.

I don't give a fuck about that retarded idea.

I want fucking results.

Yeah, there is a result, though.

Results.

The Gandhian agitation was a result of panacea.

Now you can see that.

Better at being better people.

It's anarchism just a guiding philosophy.

No, no, no.

Results.

I just told you.

I just showed you results.

I can't be a result.

Give me a single fucking group

on earth that doesn't have one leader.

One leader.

I just told you why that

is not possible because it is

the theory of language itself would allow

to give me a single example of a group on earth. Give me a single example of a group on earth.

Give me a single example of a group on earth that can successfully conform to anarchist

principles without contradicting them entirely.

How about that?

Any group can adopt anarchist principles.

Give me a single one that has done so successfully.

I just told you about Gandhi.

I just told you about how he educated people.

Gandhi is an individual.

Even if I were to believe this ridiculous notion

that Gandhi individually was a consistent anarchist,

Gandhi's an individual.

Give me a society.

Give me a group that successfully reflects anarchist principles.

What group was?

It was Indian people.

They received their success through anarchism.

Hit the fuck out of my fucking, you're dying.

That's it.

He claims the Indian people were, India was anarchist.

All right, I'm done. I don't even need to hear that. I don't need to hear that. I don't need to hear stupid shit my whole life. I don't just, I don't need to just sit here and hear stupid shit, all right? What is this a circus? what are we even talking about

let me just mute the kick stream okay where are you speaking through kick or are speaking through Kik or are speaking through Discord?

Oh, good, good, good.

Okay, so should I just get started then?

Okay, so I guess I just want to pick your brain about how, since you talk about it somewhat, and I've heard it from Carlos too, how dual power strategy will work as things go on.

I mean, I guess I could find something to debate about or I take it rain whichever you want.

Because I'm speaking on a on election zero or that's why I get in.

Debate or Q&A.

I guess I just want to pick your brain about that.

You want to pick my brain?

We'll go pick your fucking ass first.

Because all I smell is shit. it. You know, I would say let's crab it up, but I can't even justify it.

I guess my Xi Jinping lecture was good, but, uh... The stream really got fucked up badly.

Quite badly.

Quite badly.

Uh, we lost 100 viewers viewers that's great lost momentum lost a lot

Carlos what's up because uh I fucking because the my internet just decided to fuck me again

after I thought

I had gotten

fixed and

called to

everyone and

thought I

talked to

I'm going to

have to

talk to the

automated

customer service

again.

That's wonderful.

You know, I'm not meant for this shit. You know, I'm not meant for this shit you know i'm not meant for this shit you know i'm not meant to be i'm meant to be riding horses around with tents raiding villages and shit i'm not meant to be riding horses around with tents, raiding villages and shit.

I'm not meant to be talking to ITT customer support and to fucking automated fucking customer

service 1-800 numbers so that my fucking internet can be fixed so I can yell at the world

through the fucking computer.

I'm not meant for that.

I got to keep doing this shit

until shit gets real, though.

CD, what's up?

TikTok debates?

All right, we're going to do two things.

If you want me to stay here and we do it,

no, it's too late for it, honestly.

And it's too late.

I'm not gonna do TikTok shit.

Way too late. It's not that late. It's not that late.

It's not that late.

Bro, it's late.

All right, ones if you want me to do TikTok debates.

Is there really an amphibious assault being staged?

Yeah, they're planning it.

Um... All right, I'll give the people what they want.

Fuck it.

Comrade kid.

All right, that's some encouragement.

Y'all want to keep...

Want me to stick around and give me some encouragement.

You know, I'm just kidding.

I'll just do it.

I'll give you all what you want.

I'll give the people what they want because I'm a good person.

Yo! Dan! What's up, bro?

Yeah, we're just gonna do it. We're just gonna get right into it.

But I'm going to tell you guys something.

If I lag again, we're done.

Long guy, what's up with the four?

Yellowstone, what's up, man? Guys, if I lag even one more time we are finished Okay with tonight so if it happens one more time just assume that I'm not gonna reset it and it's gonna be a good night and we're gonna be done all right

So I need a good night and we're going to be done. All right.

I'm just going to do the humble one for people that have no clout.

Grandma, what's up?

Which is ask me anything.

Because when you have no clout, you just have to just kind of be a chill guy who just

is like, hey, I'm here.

You can ask me anything.

All right.

When I have no cloud on TikTok, no kings related.

Oh, fuck.

I have to restart the whole thing to change the title. You know, Yeah, let's talk about no kings.

It's just called no kings is for losers.

That's my title.

I don't know if that's going to get anyone.

So, uh, what is there to say, really? No Kings is, um, some Democrat nonsense. And all the purity fetishes

people have about ACP and they want to problematize the transgender stuff that we don't even care about or even talk about.

But they're okay rubbing shoulders with Zionists and pro-NATo supporters.

I know that people said there was 8 million people who attended these protests.

I'll break down the numbers for you.

Of those 8 million, 2 million were boomers who are already dinosaurs that don't matter

4 million are soy

Oh oh I got to put my thing

4 million are uh soy low testosterone males who are looking for some

poohs can we say it on ticot They're looking for some females.

And the rest were the mentally ill people.

And that's it.

That's all the people who are, that's the masses of no kings.

I just broke it down for you.

It's a combination of crazy blue sky boomers,

low testosterone males who are looking to get laid,

and the mentally insane.

And it's all a Democrat Sciop

and you're not canceled for grifting off of this

but Maga-Communism was

cancelable? What are we talking about?

So we're here to, you know, you can request for a debate.

If nobody requests for a debate in 10 minutes, this is over.

I don't have patience.

I'm fucking hungry.

And I don't need to frankly

you still support Trump

Ian I'm glad you're here

of the 10 people that are on

TikTok

I'm glad you're here

because I want to calmly explain to you

I want to calmly explain to you I want to

you're here

seized so to speak right

I want you to understand

you are not human

you are that low IQ Yo, fuck you fascist, pig, fuck you fascist, fuck you fascist, fuck you fascist, fuck you fascist fuck you fascist

fuck you fascist

what

you don't understand

you don't understand

socialism

your entire organization You don't understand socialism.

Your entire organization doesn't understand socialism. It's fascist, man.

It's... It's... Oh my goodness. Okay. it's

okay first

your entire thing isn't because

like

isn't because class relations

are bad you're revolting because of another

reason one's of the mic's good on

can you can you repeat yourself why are we fascist and why are we because of another reason. The one, ones if the mic's good. Hold on.

Can you,

can you repeat yourself?

Why are we fascist and why are we not socialist?

You aren't revolting because of class properly,

um, class,

um,

material conditions

are going for

another reason

you're going

for like

some elite bullshit

How old are you?

What's your age?

My age is

fuck fashion

They just left?

I was going to ask their age because what an ridiculous uneducated immature thing to say you're fascist because you're not motivated by material conditions according to marxism

everyone is motivated by material conditions, including fascists.

So the notion that people aren't compelled

to political activity on the basis

of material conditions is

that you're repudiating the basics

of Marxism. Marxism regards

all political activity to be compelled

by material conditions.

To make material conditions in some kind of normative cause, some moral cause for why you should actually be a communist is just ridiculous. You're completely confused about the things you're trying to talk about. And this is a sample of the type of people that call us fascists and

say we're not real Marxists and

socialists. I asked them how old

are you because I'm guessing this is not an adult

that this is a minor. And they left.

So here we are.

Discian here we are. Dishing Fed. Sleazy, are you

anti or pro? I can't even tell who you're aiming that towards.

That is not an adult. For sure, that is not an adult for sure that is not an adult that was not an adult that is a

yeah that's either a middle school or a high schooler that was a ridiculous that was such a

ridiculous thing uh feel free to request

what a ridiculous thing.

Eurasian KKE.

KKE is not Eurasian.

KKE is the most quintessentially Western European dogmatic sect there is.

The difference between KKE and any other sect is that they get millions and millions of dollars

from being on the European and Greek parliament.

That's why they're very loud

because they have those, they get that money

that they get from the EU.

They're literally funded by the EU.

They're institutionally tied to the EU.

ACP is fed larping. I didn't see an argument there, so I don't even know if I should

respond to that. Based on what? What are you talking about? What organizations would you compare us to that you think

were worse than? For example, we live in the real world. We're the only real communist party. It's just the truth. Who are you going to compare us to in America? We're the only real Communist Party in America.

I'm sorry.

And I'm not saying we're the best in terms of like this is the best everything could possibly be.

It just doesn't get much better than this right now.

Really, it doesn't.

I mean, like, who's going to do it better than ACP right now?

Who's doing it better? Really, think about it. Who to do it better than ACP right now? Who's doing it better?

Really, think about it. Who's doing it better than ACP? Communism doesn't enjoy a high status in this country.

And right now, nobody's doing it better than ACP. If you can't see that, you're meant to Leo. I'm sorry.

It's like communism in America

is not doing very well

in terms of the brand and whatever. I get

that. But in terms of who

are the communists that show promise and

our doings, yeah, of course it's ACP.

Who else is it? Who else? If not, us, who else?

What is, what could a Communist Party possibly look like right now that we're not already doing or trying to do. That will always be my

question. Like who else? Okay, if not us, then who? That's just going to be like my argument.

If not us, then who? Do y'all do anything IRL?

Of course we do.

I mean, a cursory glance at our social, yeah, the, the guy joined, he said, fuck you fascist, fuck you fascist, and then left, because he had no argument for how we could possibly be a fascist organization.

You have to put debate prompts.

I don't know how to do that.

I'm sorry.

Needs text on screen.

Okay.

Step by step.

I'm on the TikTok live studio.

I don't know how to do that.

I genuinely do not know how to do that.

Thoughts on Nazbols.

You know what's interesting?

Russian Nosbels are so different.

Nossbolism is a cringy Larp ideology

because usually when you're on the internet

and you see someone call themselves that

it's a Brazilian anime

gooner

and or it's some kind

of like West European

Larper who thinks

they know what Russian

knowledgeables are or we're like

or what they believe. Oh, we're just going to combine

fascism with communism.

And that's how leftists think

of it, and that's also how the LARPA right

wingers in the West think of it.

Notice none of these people are Russian and therefore

lack the context to understand who the

nozboles actually were, what they are, what they actually are like, and what they believe.

I'm not a nozbole myself, but Russian nozboes are straight up nothing like what people think

they are in the West.

Trump is in the Epstein files.

Okay?

So are all the Democrats who bankroll no kings.

So are the Democrats who bankroll no kings. So are the Democrats who bankroll no kings.

So what's your point?

What makes Democrats better?

The burden on you is to show why Democrats are better, not that Trump is bad.

Chiefs, the burden is on you to show why the Democrats are better, not that Trump is bad.

We know Trump is bad.

Show it.

Tell us why the Democrats are better, though.

That's the burden you have.

Okay. That's the burden you have. Okay, so this is a DNC bot.

What about the German ones?

Yeah, that was just some nonsense.

In the 20s, you mean, with Ernest, Nikish or whatever.

It's just kind of some nonsense.

It's not even worth consideration.

The Russian ones are totally divorced from that lineage, by the way. You're talking about a

sociological phenomenon in the case of Russia, a subculture. I'm a, hold on, I'm a CPUSA leader trying to keep my chapter from falling to liberalism.

What do?

Just join ACP.

I don't know. Why don't you just join ACP i don't i don't know like what why don't you just join ACP

because we if you want our opinion we just kind of thought that was a lost cause

um you may disagree but that's going to be my opinion. I'm sorry.

The guy who's spamming about Trump, we need to get rid of that guy.

Because I gave him the opportunity to explain how Democrats are better and he won't

elaborate so he's gone.

Sorry, bye-bye.

ACP is useless.

How, one, how, and two, compared to what in america like what organization do you think is useful

what communist organization in america is useful in your mind i'm not claiming we are

going to win the next presidential election.

I am saying this is a measure of how much communists can accomplish in America right now.

And if you think otherwise, show me the opposing evidence.

They're maga communists

PSL is better

PSL has

1,400 members

we have a little less than that

they have hundreds more than us,

which is a lot based on our measurements.

But the PSL really just

organizes protests. That's all they do, really.

And if you think that the most effective strategy to build an organization that for communists to be doing is to organize protests, you have to ask the question, what about building dual power?

What about building the crucial long-term, not the exciting part where everyone wants to go out on the street and yell, but the tedious work that Lenin talked about, where you have to go down to the people and you have to build a base among the masses, among the working class for a long-term strategy to build dual power.

Now, PSL is very good at capturing excitement and protests and stuff, but those don't last forever.

So when you say PSL is better, I disagree.

I tried ESP I was randomly removed. Okay, you can I disagree.

I tried to ASP I was randomly removed.

Okay, you can message me on Telegram.

I don't know.

I don't know what the reason for that would be.

Elect Democrats everywhere. Why? give me a single argument Opinions on looks maxing.

Um, I could not be less interested in something, to be honest.

I think it's incredibly anti-cosmic.

If you have faith in cosmos, then you accept that you look like what you deserve to.

If you want to look different, be different.

This micromanaging and this meticulous attention to detail, I just...

Good luck.

PSL is successfully organizing better than other parties including ACP.

Where's the evidence for that?

The PSL has at its disposal tens of millions of dollars from Roy Singham.

I don't see any examples of the PSL planting itself in communities in the long term. I don't

see examples of PSL

pioneering and being at the

vanguard of unionization attempts for

workers.

All I see is them leading protests.

So please explain how they're better at organizing.

Go ahead, Walt.

I'm like, not a

communist, but we should elect Democrats

instead of Republicans.

Okay. Why?

They'll win

and they'll govern properly.

Okay. By the way,

this is like a really bright idea, right?

I don't know. It's just like...

Do you think this is a... You think I would consider this a new idea?

Yes.

Oh, okay.

No, no, really, I'm intrigued because I could have sworn there was an era where Democrats controlled the House and had the presidency

and I think they had a majority

in the Senate

as well

Yeah under Biden

you know when he got elected

Yeah he did

Remember that?

Remember when Biden was elected

And the Democrats

controlled the House

and the Senate?

Good times, man.

So why did the American people decide to vote for Trump

if it was so swell under the Democrats?

It wasn't swell, dude.

We were in a global pandemic.

Oh, it was just the pandemic.

What do you think?

Is that what you, is that your talking point as you're a DNC shell and this is what you think people will buy up and eat up?

I get paid.

It's awesome.

No, I believe you.

You have to get paid.

You told me the reason the Democrats didn't perform well to the American public under Biden's presidency was just because of the pandemic.

I don't know.

Do you expect anyone to believe that?

You just said people should vote Democrats rather than Republicans.

The American people have felt

what it was like when Democrats are in power

and they were very much against

the Democrats when they were in power.

So what about Democrats is better?

Which Democrat is better?

No, what about the Democrats being in power is better?

They govern.

They govern properly.

Like, look at the current administration.

You know, you don't mean to say they govern properly.

You mean to say that they're more professional optically when they govern.

No, I mean they govern properly.

Okay.

Based on what?

Under Biden, we had record inflation.

Under Biden, we were dragged nearly into the World War III because of his reckless policy with respect to Ukraine and Taiwan, by the way.

Under Biden, we bankrolled a genocide in Gaza for one year.

That was under his watch.

No one else can be blamed for that

in terms of, you know,

another president except him.

And Biden,

Biden, by the way,

was senile why the Democrats were

lying to us and telling us he was in

good shape cognitively.

We were entering

skyrocket debt.

Life was not getting better

for the American people at the everyday level,

not at the grocery store.

Not at the everyday level. The quality of jobs

continue to decline.

There is no meaningful qualitative, there is no meaningful qualitative change that the Democratic Party was able to affect while it was in power that in any way even slightly addressed the fundamental material conditions that gave rise that led people to be so disgruntled with the system that it led them to go to Trump.

They did not address those underlying conditions.

If they did, please give me an example of how.

The expansion of the child

tax credit. Okay. So,

you're saying the child tax credit

addressed the fundamental... It helped people, dude.

It helped people. Okay. You know

what else helps people? Charity.

Does charity... you know what else helps people charity this charity what is this stupid

spineless disgusting

morally depraved argument

but we're just going to sprinkle some crumbs on people

yeah I know it helps people

the fact those people needed that help in the

first place is a disgrace. What about the

infrastructure bill? What

about it? I didn't see the results of it. Did

you? Who saw the results of Biden's

infrastructure bill? There's signs. There's signs

in my town that say this was funded by the

bipartisan infrastructure bill.

What was funded? Because I live in Michigan. I live in Michigan about maybe an hour away from Flint, and the water has not been fixed in Flint, Michigan. So you need to explain to me a measurable example of Biden's infrastructure bill that made even 1% of a difference.

I don't know what you want to tell you like where where like some where yeah because all we saw was the trains derailing and the bridges crumbling, all was happening under Biden.

Where was the infrastructure?

You mean to sit here.

This is why you Democrats, you Democrats are the most spineless, disgusting people.

You mean to sit here and tell us that we were living in paradise under Biden and that we were getting infrastructure and the child tax credits just made so much of a difference that it somehow addressed meaningfully

the underlying conditions and reasons

why people are losing their minds politically?

Oh, well, it helped people. It helped people.

Okay, a fucking billionaire

who's throwing $1,000 at a bum

and then pissing on him, that also

fucking helps. Does it address the underlying injustice for why our system is so dysfunctional

that this happens in the first place that people would need such a thing?

Well, help people. Oh, let's bow to the Pharaoh. Let's bow to the Pharaoh.

Let's bow to the Pharaoh of the Democrats.

I'm going to get on my hands and knees.

Oh, they're like gods.

They're helping people.

Oh, they help them.

Oh, we owe them so much.

Oh, I owe my life.

Look, man.

They're helping.

What a ridiculous, disgusting argument.

They do better than Republicans.

How?

What do you mean how?

How?

Give me a single example. my example was the infrastructure bill

my example was a nothing it was a nothing sandwich inflation spiraled out of control under

biden how was it better under Biden?

He brought it down.

It was a global supply chain shock.

Biden brought the inflation down, really? It wasn't an inflationary crisis all the way up to the election in November.

What was the inflation when he left office?

What was the inflation rate?

Tell me.

It's 2.5%, I think.

Okay.

If memory serves right. This is just playing with numbers to trick people

because the price of goods did not

go down.

They just said, oh, it's no longer an inflationary

spiral because we're officiating

the inflation of prices.

That's how inflation works.

Yeah. So it's BS.

We're just going to switch the numbers around.

In the long term, the price of goods are still where they're at.

They never actually went down.

You're asking for an example.

No, no, no.

You're talking about the rate of inflation.

You're talking about the rate of the increase. you're talking about the rate of inflation. You're talking about the rate of the increase.

You're talking about the rate?

No, no, no.

He didn't bring down the inflation.

He brought down the rate.

No, no.

The rate at which it was increasing went down, not because you brought it down, by the way.

Yes.

No.

No, because that's how inflation works.

He didn't actually, for him to actually reduce the inflation.

I'm not saying he brought the price of goods down.

Okay. He brought down the rate of the increase of the inflation. I'm not saying he brought the price of goods down. Okay.

He brought down the rate of the increase of the price of goods.

Okay.

He slowed it down a little bit, right?

How did he do that?

Okay.

Explain how I did that.

Tell me what the peak.

Tell me what the peak percentage of inflation was under his administration.

Tell me, tell me, no. No, no, I'm in charge. You don't know that number. You listen to my questions. How did Biden, what was the function by which he brought it down if he was such a wizard and he was such a good president he did this miracle

of bringing down the rate of inflation

how did he do that

I'm sorry

I got distracted

your question was

yeah

how did Biden what was the function by which he was able to Your question was, what did he do?

What was the function by which he was able to slow down the inflationary spiral?

Because he didn't end the spiral.

It continued.

No, he passed the Inflation Reduction Act.

Which did what?

It helped. I don't know the specifics

of it exactly. I know you don't.

You don't either. You don't either. You don't either.

Because the inflation rate, because

the inflation rate across every

U.S. president since Bretton Woods

has had ups and downs that are in no way a consequence of good or good or bad governance.

How can, wait, ups and downs are of no consequence to good or bad government.

No, because it's a, first of all, it's a cycle.

The inflation doesn't decrease.

It's a cycle.

Okay, so it's out of our hands.

You know what?

I have to mute this wild animal because you keep interrupting me.

What I'm actually saying is very simple.

The inflation continues to spiral out of control in ways that measurably increase the quality of goods, the quality, and the cost of living.

The cost of living kept going up.

Now, relatively speaking, the rate at which it's going up can be more intense or less intense.

But the fundamental degradation of people's quality of life continued in the direction it was going in.

Biden did not reduce the cost of living for people.

To be clear, he did not reduce the cost of living. That's the only thing that matters.

When rent is so high and then, okay, slightly the rate at which it's going up is kind of slowing down a little bit.

That doesn't change the fact that it has become unaffordable.

Life became unaffordable.

Biden did not address that.

That's what matters.

You're straw manning my arguments.

Okay. If Biden did not

make life less

unaffordable, how

is he a good president?

Okay. To your

first point, I disagree with you because he did make life more affordable how please how

child tax credit it helped they get put more money in people's pockets okay trump stimulus in his

first term trump trump just gave out free money.

Anyone, that doesn't mean you're making...

I'm sorry, wait, wait, the, what, the COVID stimulus checks?

Yeah, the COVID stimulus checks and Trump's cutting the tax rates.

Economic necessity, because if we didn't stimulate the economy, it would crash harder.

And someone could say that the child tax credit was an economic necessity because what?

What does it ultimately do, though, as far as the actual cost of living is concerned?

Does it slightly kind of a little bit of leave? It's like, it's like imagine you're

being pissed. Imagine you're being literally pissed on. I'm bringing up these things that like made a little bit

of progress. Hold on. I want to make a quick point, please. So you bring up these things that make

good progress, the steps

in the right direction

and then

I'm just saying

you know what Walt

you don't care. What was the average

effect? What was the average

effect of the child

tax credit as far as what

people were actually taking home in ways that they could use.

Because you haven't, first of all, I want to preface this by saying...

I think it was like two or three thousand dollars more people's pocket.

No, no, no, no, no.

You're not going to say, I think.

You're going to give me the exact thing.

Because here's the reality.

The reality is life becomes fundamentally unaffordable. The cost of

living becomes fundamentally unaffordable. People are sinking into debt. Now, you're saying, well,

the child tax credit helps alleviate that a little bit. Okay.

What are we talking about here? Because we're talking about a drop in a pond,

a drop in an ocean of debt is what you're talking about.

You're right.

That is what I'm talking about.

Right. And that's incrementally a step in the right direction, according to you, right? So how long will it take us for us to be, to actually reach the direction of our economy not spiraling into unsalvageable dysfunction

because people can't even afford

the roof over their head,

which is where we're kind of at,

and where we've been at.

Don't get me wrong, man.

It feels that way.

I just think it's better.

It's going to be like 500 years before we, you know, walk in, we're, we're, okay, a step in the, we're not, it's not a step in the right direction, even if I'm going to agree with that premise, which I don't, when it would take the equivalent of however many steps it

would take to walk, you know, 500 trillion light years. Even if that was true that infinitesimally,

it's a step in the right direction. It is so profoundly meaningless.

It is so...

It's profoundly meaningless that we just shouldn't take it at all?

No, what you should do is put your effort and energy into actually addressing the root cause

of why our country's so fucked up.

And that is. You should absolutely

spend zero percent of your effort

pushing for some kind of

incremental veterans, which

isn't even there, but it's not even incrementally

better. Because there have

always been advantages in

this. Okay, if we're speaking in infinitesimals, there are ways in which Republicans are infinitesimally better than Democrats and vice versa.

There's always pros and cons.

Every single administration consistently, there's pros and cons

with respect to

infinitesimal, incremental

veterans. But fundamentally

right now, the con, the con is in the

executive office. He's a con man.

Was Biden

a con man? No. He was a's a good man really was Biden not involved in the

Burissima deal with the Ukrainian oligarchs no he wasn't yeah he absolutely was we

absolutely was he absolutely was you're talking. You're talking about Hunter Biden

talking to the big man, right?

Yeah, and Hunter Biden's laptop?

What happened?

Nothing. Nothing?

You are just, you are even more brainwashed

than Trump's biggest supporter

right now. Trump might have

the biggest cheer. You are more brainwashed than

Trump's biggest cheerleader right now.

Tell me, bro. Tell me. Tell me what they

charged Hunter Biden with. Nothing

because it was corrupt. they got him on like

a stupid gun charge yeah yeah because it was systemic corruption systemic corruption if it was corruption

if it was corruption biden would have just canceled the investigation.

It was his Department of Justice.

You think Biden had the political capital to cancel the biggest political nationwide

scandal in the country?

He doesn't have the boss he never had the balls to do something like that actually i agree with you i agree yeah yeah i'm glad you have a little bit of a head on your shoulders that you could see how ridiculous it is i agree this is what i agree with

yeah it was the biggest political scandal in the nation.

At the time.

It was on the headline news.

So for him to cancel the investigation, he doesn't have the political capital for that.

That just goes to show just how normal things were

that's a made-up

ass story

about some Ukraine deal

was the biggest deal in the country.

Yeah, yeah, the biggest deal in the country while people were dying from drug overdoses because

their lives were being devastated.

Yeah, that's happening today, bro.

Yeah, it's been happening.

I agree.

The Democrats don't make a difference.

Our country spirals in a direction. Democrats don't make a difference. Our country spirals

in a direction. Democrats don't make a

difference. They absolutely

don't make a meaningful difference.

Okay, see, that's not

what you just said. For every example

that you could cite of Democrats being...

A meaningful difference? Like, what's meaningful to you? Utopia tomorrow?

First of all, you sick, disgusting swine. Who's talking about utopia? Do we have to speak of Utopia? Do we have to speak of Utopia to allude to the possibility that our country could be 5% as competent and normal as the People's Republic of China? Is China utopia? Why have we turned it? Why have we made it?

Why have we... Why do we allow these disgusting shills to convince us that our demand for basic human dignity,

the basic ability to afford life in a dignified way,

somehow is a utopian demand.

Somehow that's unthinkably utopian.

No, we can. It's impossible.

That's not my point.

Absolutely, it's your point. You're claiming that it's a utopia, that we have to accept

the insane dysfunctional system that we have right now we have to by the way why do we have to why do we have to no you are throwing away our insane dysfunctional system because you think it's insane

and dysfunctional. I think it's functional.

Okay. I think it's insane.

The majority of Americans don't agree with you.

That's why you have to sit here and convince people to vote Democrat.

If people love the Democrats so much, they wouldn't. Why do they pay you? If people love the democrats so much they wouldn't why do they pay you if people love

democrats so much they wouldn't need to pay you you're right fuck i'm wrong even if you're

joking about them paying you they do fucking i know people they pay so people they pay. So I do, they do pay people on

TikTok, by the way. Yeah, hook it up, bro. Yeah. So I need a dollar. Yeah, yeah. But if, look, man,

who would you vote for?

No one.

I wouldn't waste my time.

All right.

Well, then don't complain when like nothing you want to happen in government happens.

Did Gingas Khan ever cast a vote?

I am a manga lord.

No, I answer it. Did he cast a vote?

Okay, that's ridiculous to you, right? So did Lenin cast a vote?

Did Che Guevara cast a vote?

Did Mao Zetaan cast a vote?

No.

No, they didn't.

I'm a bad, evil person.

For you liberals, you Democrat liberals, understand this.

I'm a bad evil person.

I'm not here. I hate your democracy. I hate your liberalism. I hate your system. I hate your values. I hate your fake so-called respectable liberal democracy. You're Carl Popper, your George Soros. I am the incarnation of the authoritarian

evil tyranny

the totalitarian Lenin,

totalitarian Mao,

totalitarian Plato,

totalitarian Stalin.

This is me.

Do you understand?

Evil, extreme,

you call us fascist,

red fascist?

You need to understand. I don't live, I don't

respect your so-called civilization.

I want to destroy your

so-called civilization. You understand?

You're talking to me telling me about

voting and casting ballots, or you're not

going to go, you think I respect the ballot box.

Look at me in the eyes.

You think I respect a ballot box?

Look at me.

I don't think you do.

Absolutely not.

So understand who you're talking to before you sit here and insult me talking about ballot boxes. Oh, you don't vote, so don't complain about anything. No, I will do what is necessary. By the mandate of heaven, I will do what is necessary without any regard for the institution of so-called democracy.

All right.

So this is where it stands.

And I will tell as many people as I possibly can to avoid putting any of their energy, even 1% of their energy, in this disgusting, corrupt, Epstein fake democracy sham, and put 100% of their energy in this disgusting corrupt Epstein fake democracy sham and put 100 percent of their energy and building alternative sources of authority and chains of command and power so that when the system eventually does get to the point of no return in a constitutional crisis, the American people will have the ability to fall back on the infrastructure necessary to reassert their popular

sovereignty. That's what I stand for.

I don't stand for that. I understand. I absolutely understand.

You are a cuckold slave.

Because you don't have rights.

You don't have popular sovereignty.

At any moment,

the CIA can do anything they want to you

and get away with it.

You absolutely have no rights. You have no. You absolutely have no rights.

You have no rights.

You have no sovereignty.

Your voice doesn't matter.

You're ruled by an Epstein regime, which is both Democrat and Republican, by the way, who are in the Epstein files.

They can do whatever they want with impunity. You can't so much as

j-walk without a cop harassing you. This is the system that you live in. This may not apply to

you personally, but unless you're at the very top in their inner circle, for any reason whatsoever, if you decide to step out of line, if you

decide to speak against the system, they can do anything they want with you and get away

with it.

You have no rights at all.

Your voice doesn't matter.

This is not the republic uh that was built seven this is not the this is not the

republic right to establish enumerated in the u.s constitution there's no popular sovereignty the

people's will doesn't matter the The majority of Americans hate the government. Nobody cares. Majority of Americans didn't want war. Nobody cares. Majority of Americans were against being involved in Ukraine. No one cared. No one cared because it doesn't matter.

Americans who spoke out against Biden and spoke their opinion, they're Russian agents. FBI came and got

him. Nobody cared. Because they can do whatever they want. And you're nothing. Because you're not human.

You're a slave.

So for you to sit here and tell me,

I should acquiesce to the slavery and indignity

where I have no fucking rights.

They can literally do anything they want

and get away with it.

And I should accept this system

and not spend every fucking...

Would you ever, like, run for office?

No, why the fuck would I?

To make change to enact change.

I don't need to enact change.

Change is coming.

Change is coming. Change is coming. You need to understand

what this debate is about. We're not arguing about whether there should be change. Change is coming.

We're arguing about whether a dignified human being should spend even 1% of their energy responding to that inevitable change by mentally molesting themselves by casting a vote for the Democratic Party.

That is a form of self-mental molestation.

Who do you think in the change that is coming, would it be easier for the change to happen

under Democrats or Republicans?

The change is absolutely coming at the expense of what we call the United States of America

as an institution.

There's no...

There's no positive change.

Look at me in the eyes.

You think I'm AOC?

Look at me in the eyes.

No, I want you to answer my question.

No, no.

What do you think I mean by change? The institution will fall. No, no, no. What do you think I mean by change?

The institution will fall.

No, no, no, no.

You are absolutely delusion.

The institution will fall.

Okay.

What you're trying to say,

what you're trying to say,

what you're trying to say, what you're trying to say is that by change, I mean some hippie-dippy,

age of Aquarius thing where, oh, it's all going to get better. I'm not talking about that.

No, you mean like the government's gone. I'm talking about a

systemic, terminal systemic dysfunction.

I'm talking about the

political fragmentation of the United States of America.

I know. No, I do understand that.

Okay.

So who would you want to go up against?

Democrats are Republicans.

What do you mean?

Like, this change is coming.

Yes, and no one can stop it so is it easier for this change to happen

like what's the path of least resistance because there there is no resistance there is no resistance because the Republican Party is illiberal.

There is no resistance.

There is nothing resisting this tendency.

It simply is accelerating exponentially.

Nothing can resist this tendency.

Whatever, dude.

There's no way to resist the tendency of terminal systemic dysfunction. There's absolutely no way that the institutions of government enumerated in the U.S. Constitution can sustain and reconcile the contradictions that have been born as a consequence of changes and revolutions

in the productive forces within society that have fundamentally outmoded the material

premises of what we call the United States of America. The United States of America

will end. It's as simple

as that.

Like 10 years?

I'm not a

fortune teller.

Look at me. Look at me.

Do you think

I am... You think I am, uh, you think I am, uh, what's his name in the machine?

In the machine?

Yeah, what's his name?

I, I don't know.

Uh, green, green people. Tell me, tell me what...

Zoltar.

You think I'm Zoltar?

What's that reference?

Oh, look at me.

I know, I know.

No, no, look at me.

Look at me.

Do I look like Zoltar?

No.

Okay.

I just think...

I'm glad you have eyes.

I think you should take

electoral politics more seriously.

That's pretty gay.

Yeah, it is.

It's really boring.

It's genuinely like gay.

It's boring.

It sucks.

It's genuinely gay.

I'm just going to be honest with you.

Like, it's genuinely gay.

I mean, you can advocate. No,

like, it's extremely, like, gringy.

Like, what are you talking about electoral

politics? Like, go vote. This is some

shit that college kids in the young Democrat

club who wear lanyards and want to intern

because they want to, I don't know,

become career politicians or something.

Like you sound like SDL or some shit.

It's so cringy.

Oh, electoral politics should be, you're talking about mental molestation and cuckoldry because you're a kufr.

You're a kufr.

What are you talking about?

You are a kaffar.

You're a kaffir.

You're a kaffar.

Kufar?

You're a kaffir.

You're simply a kufr.

You're a pagan.

You sit in these institutions in this section of the division of labor and you say well we just have to cuck to epstein and just bow to it and just go why should i why why why why why based on what why why shouldn't you bro why why Why? Why? Why? Why?

Why?

Go run for office.

No.

Okay. Like, okay, bro, 30 years from now, the whole Epstein regime will be dead.

Like of old age, I mean, a old age.

Like these people are old people.

They will go away.

Someone needs to run the government

that could be you

no general but naked is going to be running entire

neighborhoods and sections of the entire country

who's general buttoning

the future of many parts of america who is general but me the future of many parts

of America who is general

but naked I don't understand that

reference I don't know if I want to look that up

I don't know if I want to look that up I don't know it's like

this whole once this whole Epstein thing it's not you know it's not

gonna be a generation you think there's gonna be a non violent it is a generation but it's just

gonna be a non violent turn of the generations it could be if you were in charge generations.

It could be if you were in charge.

It especially would not be if I was in charge, I promise.

I promise especially would not be if I was in charge. Joe in chat says Jared Kushner owns half my state.

Me too, bro.

Tell me a single example of revolutionary change anywhere in history that wasn't ugly

it doesn't have to be revolutionary change doesn't always have to be revolution in

a single example of qualitative change happening anywhere in any time in any place in the

in the world that wasn't

a revolution

women suffrage in

America

women suffrage in America

oh yeah like the suffragettes that's an example

they were dressed like the flappers right

and they just it was just like a...

You know what it was like?

It was like SNL.

And they're just kind of these SNL New York liberals celebrating about how everything is...

Like under Obama, when we would watch SNL, I mean, learn about how, like, better everything

was getting while we were droning kids while we were coming like a

total mass surveillance state

where you know

the Peter top peeping

Thompson and would be listening

and having access to all

your private information and there's

nothing you could do about it and Obama

could just drone U.S. citizens.

But it was like SNL and the Conan O'Brien,

the homosexual Conan O'Brien.

He'd just be telling us about how everything's getting

better. Homosexual.

He's just to get gay marriage, Stephen Colbert

and all them are just smiling at us,

telling us how women's suffrage,

how much society is getting better?

Good times.

Right, good times, right?

And all the liberal, like, theater kids

were just, like, so happy

because nothing was mean and ugly on TV.

You know,

we just devastated and destroy Libya, destroy entire nations and genocide them and

exterminate entire peoples, bring back slavery into Libya, North Africa, and it was gone for a long long time.

Obama was just like droning children around the world.

It was like in Syria, we devastated Syria.

Remember when we devastated Syria?

Oh, he left.

I just systematically dismantled on a deep psychological level his entire worldview.

I just addressed the fundamentals of his

pathological liberal worldview

by attacking SNL, by the way.

That's what did it, by the way. The theater

kid thing, the liberal theater kid thing, when I attacked

SNL, he was done. By the way, that was a major attack.

Go ahead, Liam.

Yeah, so huge support here for like

Kamala Harris. Are you

Kamala Harris fan? Are you troll?

No, I just wanted to say, I mean, one thing I think, which was pretty amazing for her record, was from 1990 in California to 2017, that she absolutely prosecuted zero priest from the clergy

that were inappropriate with literally hundreds,

if not thousands of children.

She actively actually covered up all of this stuff.

I don't know if you've read into this at all,

but this is some good information on her.

She used their campaign funds as very beneficial to her future.

So yeah, a lot of good, good information here that I don't think the liberals like to talk about or really even know about.

Yeah, okay. I mean, that's like some Epstein shit under Kamala.

I know you're being sarcastic for all the autistic people.

But, you know, let's bring on King Ratchet.

Go ahead, King Ratchet.

Go ahead, King Ratchet.

Sorry, I want to connect you to AirPods,

so we can have a conversation about this.

I think primarily while you're dealing with liberals,

it is fairly easier to have a conversation with them because... No, it's not.

It's really hard, actually.

Why?

Why don't you need that?

Because unless the traditional MAGA person

is so easy to talk to compared to that

because the traditional MAGA person

is pissed off and angry at the system

and has a lot

to complain about

and keep saying the media is lying to us

saying it's all fine it's not fine

that's my average conversation with a maga person under biden and they talk to a biden

supporter and they're just saying how everything's so fine and how the child tax credit helps so

much so the bare one like the the premise that things are really bad, you can't talk to Democrats.

I mean, if you're a Marxist, we have to be on the same page that things are pretty bad.

And I guess now liberals accept that things are pretty bad

but investigate the reasoning they give

they say things are bad because Trump is incompetent

because he's mismanaging things

because he's hurting our NATO alliance

and all these

they're not actually addressing on a

material level why things are bad they're not actually addressing on a material level why things are bad.

They're saying that Trump is a disruption to an otherwise swell regime.

That's a fundamental non-starter if you're a Marxist.

Yeah.

I hear you.

I think my major pushback is like, while we're both Marxists, I think I am a decolonial Marxist.

I think fundamentally we would disagree on that.

No, practically we wouldn't.

Why not?

Because if you were an effective

agent against the state, practically,

I don't care what your end goal is.

I would support you.

If you were against the regime effectively,

you would be objectively revolutionary in my eyes.

I don't care what you're fighting for in the end.

We can disagree about that later, maybe.

Wait, hold on.

I am genuinely curious.

With that being said, however, have you

encounter any

anarchist?

No, they're not because they are

incapable, fundamentally, of being effective opponents of is in our folks They're not because they are incapable

fundamentally

of being

effective

opponents

of the regime

because to

be an

effective

opponent of

the regime

you have

to create

your own

So you're not

let's be

real though

you're not

necessarily

always going

to agree

with left as people who have different ideologies.

No, no, no. I never said that. I said all effective opponents of the regime I agree with.

Okay, fair enough.

Effective means they are actually in actuality capable of standing up to the status quo.

Anarchists who don't believe in authority can't do that.

Square one, they can't organize.

Square one, they can't build independent centers. We don't have to do the like i am a scientific socialist

pan-africanist like i don't want to get off to ideology means is very little what i'm saying though

it's like, we will

mostly agree on anarchists and I don't, I want to

get on like where we disagree at.

Almost nothing.

Can I ask you a question though

do you feel like America what's a great leap for

humanity

okay my view of history

I don't believe in a great leap.

I think that history proceeds by necessity.

That could be tragic, absolutely.

That could accompany a great deal of many evils and horrific things.

Sure.

The question at the end of the day

is not, is this good or bad? The question is, what choice

do we have?

The question is, what

reflects an objective tendency

within world history?

I mean, think about this.

Think about how we think about nature.

In nature, when there's a big

catastrophe, nobody says,

was this great or not?

We say, okay, how do we respond to it

for some reason in history we have idealism that says there's no objectivity here

there's no materiality here it's all reducible to our individual choices

so we truly we attribute to it a moral criterion.

Now, in America, if you can point to me the progressive forces that stood against the evils that corresponded to the founding of this country, point me to them, and I'll support

them.

But genuinely, look at the world when America came to be. Who opposed? Who, in opposition to the United States, represented something morally superior? For example, we had the British Empire.

Some leftists now want to make the argument

that British Empire was morally superior.

I fundamentally disagree with that.

Why?

Because the British Empire

was the reason for the bad inheritance we got in the first place.

All the evil and wickedness that is at the founding of the United States of America

comes from Great Britain, the British Empire.

The fact that... a new approach a new approach i like i'm fascinated

for you to explain what do you mean so like i'm legitimately fascinated by what you're saying so

like i'm legitimately fascinated by what you're saying. So ultimately what you're saying is, like, America proceeding from Great Britain, a lot of their morality came from Great Britain, so it was a...

Yeah, of course. Of course. See, what I believe we cannot abandon as Americans. This is my modest view.

The notion and the purport of one united american republic

and the tradition that that gave rise to corresponded i will not disagree with you all theils in infamy, I'm not going to deny any of that. But I'm also going to say simultaneously there were also emancipatory and progressive threads that were there. I agree.

All the evil was there.

I don't disagree with it.

As the Marxist, you're using,

you're using sort of sot-demed language in some of this.

But like, I just ignore that for your bigger point.

There's a history of America as a nation that is proletarian and that is a bourgeois.

I mean, that's, I mean, specifically for European settlers, yes, that is true.

Yeah.

Well, I say, okay.

Not necessarily.

Yeah, of course.

The indigenous people were exterminated.

They were treated in a genocidal manner.

They were not included in the construction of the American nation, which I fundamentally think is a sin of our nation.

But the notion of a united republic, one united American republic on this land, on this continent is a wonderful

place to start.

The simple purport

that we have one indivisible

republic.

For whom, though?

I am curious, though, like, for whom?

For whom?

For all the for the indigenous people

for the black people, for the white

people, for the

Latinos, for everyone who lives here, really?

Wait, wait, hold up.

So we have to ignore.

Keep in mind, we have to ignore history of the indigenous.

Ignore the history of the enslaved Africans.

Why ignore it?

Became emaciated.

I mean, specifically for your example, it was a great leap forward for those people. I don't think it was a great leap forward. I think it was an objective development of world history that we have to respond to in some way. I don't believe we can respond to it by

a balconization. Why should we

not strive to build a single indivisible republic?

Yes, we can acknowledge the past for certain, but why should we not be one American nation or aspire toward one American nation?

I think it would be easier for me to, like, had this conversation with you.

We were just to, like, give a

big day, close to that day

that

like,

national understanding of why you think

that. I mean, of course, not in the 17th

century or 18th century not in the 17th century

or 18th century, or the 17th century, not the

19th century pre,

uh, or pre, um,

or pre, um, Jim Crow for it.

Against, so I would assume that you're primarily

focusing

the 20th and 21st 6th

The future

The future and what I'm merely saying

is there's something called history

History is a development

And we can trace in history threads merely saying is there's something called history. History is a development.

And you can trace in history threads of the development

of a future that I believe in.

And I choose to believe

yes, America

foundationally is evil.

I agree.

I'm not going to disagree with you.

But also foundationally lies something good.

I hear you.

I hear you.

And I'll be honest with you. I hear you and like, I'll be honest with you. I've heard a ton of rhetoric around you.

In speaking to you, more empathy,

especially when you say you're from Michigan.

But either way,

I think that like,

that foundational idea

that like you believe

that America had a good

path forward

I disagree. I think I disagree

with most Marxists. I don't

think that

the struggle. By the way, I think

unless we could be time travelers

it wasn't a good path necessarily. But the fundamental

framework within which we can articulate and emancipated and free American nation has to start from acknowledging

thus far the experience of attempting to build

a single republic on this land.

I'm not saying we blindly submit to that experience

and say we're stuck within there. I'm just saying the notion of building from

scratch a state and a republic, we will be burdened with that inheritance dealing with many of the

same issues, by the way, that were dealt with. And the notion of one,

of trying to have one American republic and one nation and one people

that includes all the different

groups because look

when European settlers

came and when the institution of

slavery

continued to exist

throughout the duration of the United States

from its founding

the European settlers

who had come here had not yet fully committed

to this land

they had preserved an institution who had come here had not yet fully committed to this land.

They had preserved an institution that was born from European colonialism,

and they maintained a distinct and separate European identity that comes from Europe, which did not reflect a full kind of suspension and commitment to just being an American nation and all that may entail. And I can trace a thread in the history of America of, in fact, the American national existence attempting to struggle to come to be at the expense of this.

For example, in the civil rights movement, I don't romanticize I'm okay and I don't romanticize

the various kind of naive liberal methods and approaches that correspond to that.

But that was genuinely a movement of Americans who said,

American national existence means we have to throw away the prejudices of the old world

we came on different boats

but we're in the same land now

we have to commit to America

we have to commit to having a share

wait wait wait I gotta pause you there

I gotta pause you there so I come from

a Pan-African lens.

Naturally, my mind goes immediately to

Kwame Torei and during that time. And I don't think that it was a

it was a conscience lens

from the American Empire

to integrate black people in this

society. It was closer to

the Soviet Union

and we had to look

at it from an international

nationalist lens. It was an empire. It came from the American We have to look at it from internationalist lands.

It was a empire.

It came from the American people and, and from support.

No.

No.

From support from the Soviet Union.

That's not true, man.

The Soviet Union specifically during the decont, this is in the height of decolonization of Africa.

And the Soviet Union specifically advertising or how would I say,

using propaganda while African

nations were decolonizing

from their things

put pressure on the American

to integrate and so on

because it was embarrassing for them

internationally. I fully understand.

But that's the only but the only thing that explains to me is how it was able to be done peacefully because the bourgeoisie acquiesced to it.

But had they not done that, the conditions for a very revolutionary shift, really, actually was there anyway when you think about it.

The 70s, many people anticipated that America was on the cusp of a revolution, not just because of the rise of the black power movement, which was the most active and vigorous element of that in America, but also because the American people after the counterculture and after Vietnam and so on and so on, we're just fed up with the system.

Just say it was the greatest leftist movement since the 1930s.

The Panthers?

I have no, no, no, no, it wasn't.

The Black Panthers were the

greatest

revolutionary

movement in the entire 20th century

that existed in America.

While I agree, it is

very difficult for me

as workers because I'm a worker

you're probably not a worker anymore

but like it is hard for me

to ignore the

what

specifically people of European descent did in 1930s or the 40 hour work week, the labor laws in this country.

It's hard to ignore it. It wasn't revolutionary. The notion of the revolutionary praxis and the construction of dual power and the adoption of Mao Zetong thought and asymmetrical organizational strategy only entered this nation through the Black Panthers.

I'm a fosterite. I have William Z. Foster on my wall, who is the leader of the American Communist Party back in the heyday. So, of course, he was a revolutionary in a broader sense, and he was a good communist, and he was a good Marxist-Leninist. However, there's a reason that no communist party anywhere in any western

country was able to successfully establish a revolutionary strategy the black panthers got

closer to that than anyone.

Well, I want to say this, Haas.

I'm going to jump down because I'm sure there's other people that want to talk to you.

After speaking to you,

if you get a much more bad rap than you deserve.

Like, we can disagree on a ton of different things in the same way I disagree. We're like, let's be Trotskyites and the whole nine.

You think that you're a net positive for the net movement or for the left-wing movement.

Well, I appreciate you.

I want to say that to you, man.

I appreciate you.

Thank you.

I appreciate that.

I always appreciate people who want to figure out things for themselves and not just listen to what others have to say.

Okay, this will be the last guy.

Go ahead. He's got a crazy name yo what's your guys's uh like end goal

uh fulfilling the will of heaven uh I mean, is that revolution?

We don't have to make

revolution a goal because revolution

is a law. Yes, I understand.

Yes, it's inevitable. I understand

that. But what are you doing

in order to actually make sure that the

working class has the consciousness that they need

in order?

They reflect and respond

to the moment we're living in.

What?

Our goal is to build a completely new

state, a completely new authority to build a completely new state a completely new authority and a completely new

power i understand that happens after the revolution i'm saying what are you happens now not after

okay okay okay fine you can't do that without revolution though The point is, is that how are you going to make the working class not just do a trade unionist style sort of reform or referendum? And how are you actually going to build that organization if you don't actually mobilize the working class.

You're getting backwards, okay?

One guy on the green,

one if the mic is still good.

One if we're good.

One's if we're good.

Two's if we're good.

All right.

First of all, we are doing that, but before you can do that, you have to actually organize as cadre.

You have to organize as a militant cadre, devoted to the cause, devoted to the vision, so to speak, and then you have an operational capacity as a collective

to actually agree on doing things such as organizing workers, which we do, by the way.

So is that what happened in the October Revolution?

Like, you think that it started with the militarism

part first, and then it wasn't...

Really? So then how was it a

nearly bloodless

revolution?

That's

an incredible description for

an event that corresponded to years of one of the most bloodiest civil wars that have ever happened on Earth. The revolution itself, I'm saying. Okay, the revolution is inseparable from the consequences that immediately followed it and did not consolidate it until the victory after the Civil War.

But in any case, to respond to your question, there would have been no October Revolution if there was not decades of painstaking militant organization by the Bolshevik Party.

That's what was decisive they were prepared

when shit popped off

they were ready

yeah but the point is

that nothing popped off

right

it was that the working class

what are you talking about?

One person died.

It doesn't.

What shit popped off?

Okay.

You're talking about this specific moment in which the Petrograd Soviet

and the Soviets

seized power from the

provisional government. Correct?

Correct.

Yeah, that was relatively bloodless.

Okay. To say

that this was the revolution proper and not the years of civil war that were the prerequisite conditions of it actually being able to consolidate, the revolution did not consolidate until the end of the Civil War.

So you're saying the revolution was baldness?

No, it wasn't.

The revolution didn't end until after the Civil War. but he just he just

he just left he just left go ahead juice how are you doing

good

good i just have a question

um sadly

you know i got and i also

i'm a new watcher to you man i'm new to politics

um so i don't know too much about really

anything. Actually, I was in your kick

and I asked you, you know, if we could just talk about theory.

I want to know more about like information.

Like so I could, uh,

I don't know. But basically, sadly,

I got into a, you know, argue with my mother.

You know, she told me, you know, we talk about politics and she told me the only way to, you know, like, be better, like, for us to live better is to vote.

And I disagreed.

And I want to know what's actually a good response to someone who says we must vote.

And I kind of heard you talking a little bit about it with the person that kind of up the book.

I would say that it's a waste of time.

I would say that, uh...

You know, I don't like Emma Goldman, but if voting mattered, they make it illegal.

That's what I would say.

I'd say that all the people in power, you think they're going to let a vote change the outcome?

You think they're going to...

And you know what?

That's what I'd say.

I absolutely agree with you, but I feel like...

But I would say fundamentally, juice, as much as I love this conversation, we've got to wrap it up.

Don't argue about your mom.

Don't argue politics with your mom.

Please just stop doing that.

Never do that again.

That's the takeaway.

All right, guys, we're wrapping up the TikTok.

I'll see you guys.

Later. guys later.

I need those.

Someone like in infrared just like help with the fucking making the TikTok banners or some shit that I need, supposedly.

So hungry.

All right, guys, we're wrapping it up right now.

Bye-bye.

Hope you had fun.

But it's over now.

Bye-bye, guys.

I'll see you Tuesday.

Goodbye.