Infrared BRUTALLY Destroys Ahrelevant

okay so i think that dictatorships are

not productive because people feel

alienated based on their lack of ability

to create substantial change inside of

their communities through voting or what

have you one party states and

dictatorships are not a good way of

doing that because people feel alienated

from the process of decision making in

their country okay we can actually test

this

um how much power do people in china

have to actually meaningfully change and

have the government respond to their

actual needs and wants and desires

relative to the united states uh

well why do we have to do it

specifically with just the united states

i mean we could do it with like for

instance south korea okay let's do south

korea okay which one do you think has a

better standard of health care china or

south korea is a more developed country

in general so what's the relevance of

that point i you wanted to you said you

were willing to do it in reference to

south korea

with 1.4 billion people with huge

geographical okay so you said you were

willing to do it in reference to south

korea i am okay

south korea having a better standard of

living isn't evidence of the fact that

people have more decision making um

or you know more real speaking like real

power relative how do you think a

one-party state is going to fare when it

comes towards individuals feeling like

they are alienated or not alienated from

being able to uh vote for the people

that are not alienated why um very

easily because the single party state is

literally the communist party of china

whose sole mission

is to do nothing but serve the chinese

people why could i not say the same

thing about the conservative party in

america because the conservative party

does not make that its mission right so

like not even officially right so then

why can't i just make this argument

about china well actually first off they

do make that like every single party in

america thinks that their their sole

mission is to make america better

that's if you listen to the precepts of

the republican party in the united

states it's actually not to improve the

welfare of the people and serve the

people it is too conservative they just

disagree

with the ways that you believe that's

that's when that's propaganda rhetoric

it's not like it's high quality missions

wait a second

real quick wait wait real quick let's

just settle this down what were you

going to say i was basically just trying

to say

that the republican party does not

inscribe into the like uh mission

statement of its being to serve the

people but rather to like conserve the

principles of the republic and the

values of like the american constitution

isn't that is it in doing that isn't

that how they serve the people isn't

that the same thing yeah i don't see how

well they believe it to be the case no

they believe that inscribing

conservative values is how to avoid like

for instance actually you can break

bread with this you tried to with lauren

southern right you remember where you

said that you know you and a

conservative could get along really well

and that you thought that conservatives

would really be open to your ideas as a

marxist leninist and that you guys could

get along really well so you already

know this i don't know why you're acting

like you don't why i actually don't

think so there's two different things

we're talking about

and everyday american ordinary

conservatives and i don't think those

are the two same uh

senses of the word conservative so when

i was talking to lord southern i was

talking about regular american

conservatives and by conservative i

meant americans who are suspicious of

like cultural politics of the democrats

and the extreme kind of changes and

governments

like that let's talk about those

republicans what's stopping me from

saying those republicans have the best

interest of the shit in mind because the

republican party is a party are you

referring to wait wait wait wait the

communist charity chinese party is a

party what do you mean by that you have

to allow that i know but the republican

party does not formally or like

officially

make it its sole purpose for existing

just to serve the american people they

believe that it is they just go about it

in a way that you don't believe is

effective for it so

they may or may not believe that by the

way but

ultimately because for example they may

say it's not the role of government to

serve the people it's the role of

individuals to serve themselves

government just needs to be a watchdog

to make sure

that the negative rights of people are

guaranteed and respected so that

individuals can just look out for them

but they can say something like hold on

but they believe and it would be just as

consistent they believe that any excess

uh governmental interference would cause

you to have a lower satisfaction or uh

what is it uh standard of life or

standard of living no actually it's not

it's not essentially about the standard

of life or even the individual

satisfaction it's about like the

fundamental precepts of liberty and

freedom and sovereignty why do they care

about those precepts no because they

believe it is like a fundamental um kind

of like ontological part of what human

free humanity really is what it doesn't

mean why did they yeah and why do they

care about free humanity it's because

they believe that that maximizes your

standard of living no it's not there

there no way like they can be

objectivist iron rand people and just

say um no we're not being utilitarians

or even consequentialists this is just a

matter like of an axiomatic fact of like

what it means to be human in the first

place like in no way does it necessarily

imply

uh the welfare of the people it does

imply the welfare of the people because

they believe anything else would be at

the detriment of your ability to have a

good standard of living

this has been the platform

not necessarily no it has hardcore

hardcore there's hardcore libertarians

who say we don't actually care about the

standard of living we just care about

freedom and even if that comes at the

expense of the standard of living that's

fine why do you think they say that what

is there because that's for saying that

they because they think principles are

more real than human beings why do they

think that principle wait what wait what

okay

what you mean is that they believe that

the principles of what they consider to

be freedom is like more important in

some cases than certain people's lives

and why do you think that might be the

case why do you think that they might

believe that because for them those

principles represent the truth like what

is the truth and what does the truth do

for them it doesn't matter what the

truth does it's just a matter of what

the truth is and for them it's in the

form of those prayers so you're just

wrong right libertarians have been on a

platform and it's been very clear that

what they have established is these

principles uphold the ideas of freedom

that are necessary for not only our

democracy but also necessary for

self-actualization and the happiness and

the productivity

that's not essentially libertarian

okay can you point me to can you point

me to one you can easily be a

libertarian and not believe that and the

important libertarians who don't believe

that can you point me to one person

who says that their political ideology

is to cause or is to not

maximize the

benefits or the the happiness or the

productivity of the general public and

that they're just doing x y and z

political policy because yeah they just

don't like people like mainstream the

core thinkers of the austrian school

hans heberman hop whatever the fuck his

name is but you said about those people

economics

are you talking about wait are we

talking about

economics did you say austerity no the

austrian school

okay

i do it okay austrian school it's an

economic school wait is it

the austrian school isn't just an

economic school it is also a

philosophical has a lot of philosophical

thinkers that orient around it that

don't just cover economics

okay i'm googling and i'm just googling

hans hermann hop standard of living and

from the first two pages so i'm just

you're gonna have to read them yourself

because they're pretty clear about that

consistently okay i mean

i'm

i could i mean i i just reject this i

think everybody's political philosophy

is all about well that's just not true

okay why is it necessary for every

single political position to have as its

essential basis welfare for society and

the people

in my opinion

yeah i mean what else would you have

what other what you could have for

example a political position that is

contrived on the basis of abstract

principles that have no regard for the

welfare of humanity whatsoever now as to

why someone would pursue them although

because they think there is no

alternative that everything else is like

a a dead end or false or against the

truth imagine a religion for example

that uh demands everyone die and

everyone just commits suicide

yeah i don't think these things are

widely followed if that religion was

expounded into a political program well

you would there you would have a form of

politics it has nothing to do with the

welfare of the people at all but it's

just based on is that is that what you

think is that what you think the

libertarian party is is it death cult no

no i don't care if that's what it is so

i'm just it's just an excellent example

right

yeah everyone revolves now obviously

okay we're talking about the

99.999 percentile and then 99.99

in which parties have to um

gain votes based on appealing to people

almost every single party is going to

try to make the case to people that

they're going to improve their standard

of living and their way of life but that

doesn't mean that they inscribe that as

the most fundamental principle or reason

for their existence in the first place

so i would typically argue is

from my position that most people

believe that that would be the outcome

of their political political system is

that the people

would be better off and and flourish

more

even if the like we could take um

literal nazis for example even they

believe this do you reject that that

like hitler believed the nazis thought

that they were socialists

okay so that's not

relevant what i'm asking you is whether

or not no no no so what i'm asking you

is these are an example of that so they

literally claimed that they were

socialists and they literally claimed

that they wanted to make a social

economy that benefited the german people

so i don't know what you're trying to

say so what i'm trying to say is very

simple do you or do you not believe that

the nazi party or the uh the third reich

proceeded to try and uh with their their

goal was to maximize the well-being of

all people and at the expense of six

million jewish people and other

than countless other people during

awards first of all they claimed it was

for the german people specifically in

the form of the war policy

right so it's not like the nazis were

also the developmental estate that

focused on uplifting the german people

they focused on aggression against other

countries

wait do you think that

like china doesn't aggress on other

countries the linchpin of the china's

communist party and the

china's economy is not war okay i never

said the linchpin i asked you a very

simple question do they aggress on other

countries what's relevant about that

okay i just don't know why because you

previously just stayed oh yeah i mean i

don't think they do but what's relevant

about that so you don't think china

aggressors on any other country no

really

no i don't

okay what do you think about um their

trade relations with like many african

countries do you think that's a good

deal with like many of these examples

yeah do you think

do you think that these are good deals

or do you think that many of these

countries aren't don't have a way to pay

these debts back and get trapped in debt

well the only thing we would have to see

is what would happen if they default and

some of them have defaulted and china

has

forgiven their loans and restructured

the loans

and you know cut you know like china

works with countries that default and

can't pay back their debts so

like you just lost on that point and how

is that aggression though but how is

that aggressive i don't get it how is

that a form of because it's a form of

passive imperialism

okay but wait there's no military

involved there's no politics involved

it's so economical so

if it is can i ask i just want to ask

one question just for this comment

because i'm just i'm super curious would

you say the same thing would you say the

same thing about the imf

no

why

because the imf when it comes to giving

out its loans and it comes to dealing

with countries that default on those

loans the imf doesn't address the

fundamental infrastructural

and base economic

um foundations of the fine finance they

just treated china has china ever done

that

yes they have actually yes they have

china builds infrastructure and attempts

to engage in the development of these

countries to address when you say when

you say it builds infrastructure and

engages the development of this country

you're talking specifically only about

ports that also serve the interests

of the reports there's a train in kenya

that

china built so how's that

shipping like goods and services

bro you don't know specifically destiny

is mr reaching house are you saying that

china exercises soft power compared to

the neocon conservatives that go into

the middle east and shit

china forms deals with sovereign states

without violating their sovereignty at

all simple as that

it's pretty good it's not aggression

that's not bad actually nice okay so

well yeah okay so then what about its

relation with like for instance hong

kong

okay but

you have to understand from the chinese

perspective hong kong is part of the

country of china there's one country two

systems okay so i'm just curious if

anything that happens there you would

consider as anything more than or

anything similar to like passive

imperialism is there maybe a little bit

more hong kong is literally part of

china

okay do you think that like perhaps

waiting

or

maybe a little bit more of an opportune

moment rather than like just kind of

going in there a little bit earlier than

when they're set to be uh

uh conjoined as one country should be

like probably a priority when did they

go in there

i mean

like on the hong kong protests i don't

remember the exact date those were dealt

with by the hong kong police

okay so you think that every single

person

that was being um that had any

aggression towards them in hong kong um

that any individual who was inside of

that region was not aggravated or or

assaulted by any individual with chinese

affiliation no more than protesters

within the united states for during

black lives matter and ferguson that's

not what i asked

that's not what i asked i was doing very

simply saying that if they feel

discontented it's not like a nazi

aggression against foreign countries

i never said it was a nazi aggression

just stay on topic well okay how did

hong kong stop being part of china by

the way in history what do you mean like

hong kong historically was just china

right how did it stop being that

i have no idea

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really yeah

i have no idea um so before hong kong uh

was returned to china what was hong kong

what do you mean i i don't know you you

are okay so you you are a guy who talks

about china but you didn't know that

hong kong was a british colony

no

okay

and so what right did britain have to

steal hong kong from china like britain

was in europe

so sure what

did britain have to just go to china

halfway across the world and say

actually this is our shit

i

never said that they had a right to do

that so i don't understand why there's

confusion about who hong kong belongs to

it's not about who hong kong belongs to

it's about whether or not there's

aggression in the region against the

local populists the populist being part

of china

okay if that was the case do you think

that there's any aggravated aggression

in hong kong in comparison to any other

region in china hong kong there was a

yes there was a huge level of civil

unrest yeah why do you think that was

um if it's just like any other reason

there's no reason and then there's the

underlying reason so there's two reasons

right i'll go over them the official

reason was because of the extradition

law that china was passing that would

allow china to um

extradite um

criminals from hong kong and try them

within china and bring them to china the

second reason and that just goes to show

you how hands off china has been to hong

kong even though it's part of its

country it's unheard of that you can't

extradite criminals like you can even

extradite crim american criminals from

europe second of all um yeah but the u.s

is one country the idea like you can't

extradite someone from florida that's

like unheard of right so the second

reason

um yeah hold on let me finish it the

second reason was that

hong kong has um been giving rise to a

lot of economic

uh discontent because uh there's no

basically there's no land right there is

land but it's all monopolized by

landlords and people can't find housing

in hong kong

um there's problems

yeah economic discontent i was gonna ask

you you'd rather the chinese communist

party squeeze out the bourgeois

capitalists in hong kong

and and make it like the rest of china

actually yes within the communist party

they literally uh were um

irrelevant

so they got a defense yeah within within

china they the communist party there was

talk within the communist party

that this is by like lower if not the

upper ranks when people talk about the

ccp you understand this is a 90 million

member strong organization

so there is a lot of theorists within

the party that were saying that if china

was allowed to

or if hong kong engaged in like a land

reform similar to china's in terms of

the housing that it could solve that

that underlying source of the civil

unrest but china can't do that because

it has the one country two systems

policy that doesn't allow china to

change uh hong kong's government system

um and its economic system

so hong kong has the government and

economic system that it has

um

independently of what the ccp wants

damn capitalist you got to respond both

of you what just to how like capitalism

can solve housing markets and not have

them because in hong kong obviously

because in hong kong

people don't have um

access to housing

can you tell me what that means like can

you show me like is there an

unparalleled level of homelessness wait

hold on just to be clear i don't have a

huge stake in this talking about it but

just to be clear china has housing

problems as well yeah

but no but the issue specifically in

hong kong is artificial scarcity of land

and housing well it's is it artificial

scarcity or is it actual scarcity

because my understanding is

china's had problems recently where like

these huge cities like um yeah the

demolish

people don't want to live there

no no no it's not because people don't

want to live there it's because they

found

at the base of the um the buildings they

were contaminated by uh what is it

called when water like rots the final

mold uh unsafe mildew or mold standards

well anyway those those those buildings

were not safe um ghost cities are

actually a myth so they look like ghost

cities because it takes years and years

for them to get populated but they

eventually do become populated and

there's many cases that you can observe

of these things that were called ghost

cities by the western press years and

years later they're all of a sudden

completely populated because they just

didn't understand the long-term plan for

these cities but anyway um

even if that was a problem it's the

opposite problem that hong kong has in

that case there's like an abundance of

uh

cities but they're just not affordable

right but in hong kong there's an

artificial scarcity of housing and land

because there's a huge monopoly by

landlords within hong kong

do you think that you know people are

packed like sardines the living

conditions in terms of housing are just

not good rent prices are super super

high like skyrocketed high so yeah this

housing situation in hong kong is really

not good i have seen no evidence to that

let's say china did you know get hong

kong fully you know on their side um

what would that mean for like the small

business owner would they flourish right

away or

the small business owner would

undoubtedly benefit a lot okay

hold on

so um i want to hear then uh

specifically if because i want to

get really back on track uh when it

comes to dictatorships i want to hear

how you think the dictatorship um how do

you think like north korea fares as a

dictatorship um north korea is a country

sanctioned from the entire world because

of america

and is not allowed to economically

develop itself based on the crucial need

to have international trade because

which one do you think has a better

living standard cuba or north korea cuba

why do you think that is because cuba's

um

keep in mind there's like free trade to

cuba from all countries no but the

sanctions are not on the level of north

korea why do you think there's sanctions

on north korea because u.s aggression

against north korea obviously okay then

tell me the korean war never ended and

the u.s never relinquished upon its

mission to destroy north korea well i

want to hear right do you think that any

of the reasons given like human rights

violations or what have you might be

part of the reason why some people might

not want to trade with north korea then

why do we trade with saudi arabia

i mean

we're going to trade with them because

it's mutually beneficial and as well as

it doesn't seem like there's as many

humans rights violations as widespread

how do you know based on the sources

that i've seen okay so so i'm i'm

curious what what about north korea's um

treatment of their people crimes against

their people is necessary because

they're cut off from

okay so let's say um the let's keep on

track the ability for you to protest

against the government

do you agree or disagree that you have

less of an ability to protest against

the government in north korea than you

do in america

um i would assume no but i don't know i

ultimately don't know

okay do you think i'd be surprised if

you did but i don't know why do you

think that is

why do you think you're not allowed to

protest as much

yeah well because um the us is still a

kind of liberal democracy which has not

arrived at like a determinant

specific

um

position like its government doesn't

take a partial specific

position

uh in terms of like the future of the

country like it just claims to be

completely neutral negative freedoms

formalistic state

whereas communist states um are

communist states so they're like they're

choosing a specific path

and if you're you don't just have a

blank check to you know have the right

to do whatever you want you have to

assume responsibility and say okay we

want to do a different path right if you

want to assume responsibility for

wanting an entirely different path

effectively saying you want to overthrow

the government and have a completely

different um

system

then you can do that but you also have

to face the consequences of doing that

now do you think if

yeah if you if what you want to protest

is something within the system that can

like be changed within the system you're

free to do that right really okay yeah

yeah you are especially in countries

like china

the 996 uh

the 996 culture the work culture within

china

there's a heavily

big culture of working nine hours

uh nine to nine sorry nine a.m to nine

pm

six hours a day and there was a huge

amount of backlash and protest of this

from the chinese populace

um and and finally the chinese

government decided to crack down on the

996 culture and pass laws

um

reversing it

okay

typically what we're talking about an

internal issue we're talking about like

the treatment of certain people right or

or i was thinking of severe political

change yeah exactly what differs your

ideology from fascist ideology about

security and everyone knows their

responsibility

when i say everyone knows the

responsibility i'm trying to say

you don't just have a blank check

because

like there has to be a reason why

you are protesting or you're voicing

your speech like what is the reason for

what you're saying if if the reason for

what you're saying is i want to

overthrow the state entirely

and um

you know and

eliminate the sovereignty and the you

know whatever of the state no no that's

a little extreme i mean other parties

uprising you know can there be an aoc in

china i really doubt it

but to do what like you have to you need

to affect

systemic political change well that's

the thing in communist states it does

matter what do you want specifically is

what matters yes systemic political

change

okay to do what okay what if they want

to turn the progressive wheel a bit on

some social issues can they do that yeah

they can

oh give us an example like something

severe so not not something small you

want to know the truth is that um the

majority of the chinese people are

pretty conservative so

it really doesn't happen

so okay so let me give you an example

what if

um in the chinese uh communist party i

wanted there to be strict term limits

let's say i i wanted to institute the

same exact governmental system as in the

u.s do you think i could do that

no that would be too extreme but term

limits yes you could literally push for

that okay what about multi-party what

about multiple parties

that have a wider view

lighter and more diverse

than what

okay wider and more diverse than what

they have okay because you've already

submitted yeah they they're just like

shadows they're just shadows of the same

thing they're not really that it's

that's like saying like multiple people

run against putin okay this is just

laughing no yeah dude you can't have a

hundred year system and say there's

multiple parties which would you mean to

say is is multiple parties that can rule

the state

exactly yeah

yeah

so so within china right

um a party is fulfilling is like the

linchpin of the entire political system

okay so if you're going to replace the

chinese communist party you're

effectively going to overthrow the whole

government

okay

and and otherwise right why do you want

another what can this other party do

that the communist party can't do

i i mean we've given several examples so

far apparently

we did so giving more accountability

towards you just named more if you would

stop interrupting me

you're naming more political rights but

political rights to do what and fulfill

what aim

politically they want let's say china

wanted more immigrants right and more

global trade right if if there's a party

that's all for immigrants and more

people coming to china there's no way

they come they come close to power

there's way and i know you're going to

say the chinese people are conservative

but is that because of their system

if the chinese people wanted more

immigrants and wanted more global trade

were very adamant and vocal about this

they would get it

okay what about the firewall

yeah if the majority of chinese citizens

rose up and said we don't want this

version of the chinese internet anymore

we're sick and tired of this what is the

what is the necessity of the firewall

why is it a good thing

um there's two reasons i can name just

off the top of my head one one of the

most important ones is to protect

china's domestic

platforms

and protect the chinese uh internet

sphere from being monopolized by

american companies

so that's a really important one

um and the second one is that china

wants to be able to control the flow of

information coming into its country why

do they want to contribute

most countries like if you look at

saudis like they protect themselves by

making their own starbucks one of the

most important like

forms of information that they're trying

to protect against is like pornography

you know

for example

i mean do you think that pornography is

something that needs to be banned

yeah i think it would be good if

pornography was banned you tell me why

um yeah i just

i guess i would have a standard

conservative view i think pornography um

promotes degeneracy yeah it's can you

tell me why you believe that it is

um i'd have to like look up all the

articles psychology articles of how like

porn pornography do you think that

instead of just citing that there are

psychological negatives that we could

figure out a way to deal with those

psychological negatives in a more

healthy way that might not make them

inhibit our day-to-day life no i think

why not

what are you talking about

why wouldn't i be able to so let's

assume that i grant you know

psychological negatives that come from

consumption of porn why couldn't i

simply say

that we can engage with pornography in a

different way that is healthy

because then you're dealing with the

symptom and not the disease

whoa how is the disease porn if what

you're saying is the reason cause of the

symptoms you're trying to treat hold on

hold on

right so just because something causes

some negative or perverse reaction

amongst a group of people doesn't mean

it's like intrinsically bad we can learn

different ways

well that's just because we may not know

how to engage with it

okay well how would you engage with it

i mean i could give you a host of ways

to be able to engage with pornhub okay

so not trying your best to be able to

understand that the people that you're

looking at on the screen are not an

average distribution of people and that

the body standards portrayed on this

screen or probably

not within the aggregate distribution of

is that what you're thinking about when

you're whacking it off

well that would be the point would be to

change that no do you think that when

people whack off their thinking

rationally yeah they could be

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i mean dude i mean sometimes sometimes

you want to come dude you're just like

hey i want to come

the year we're in right now is the best

china has ever been

really or compare it compared to another

decade i mean i don't disagree with that

claim either

when it comes to economics oh wow yeah

when it comes to economics they're

booming not just economics

whole life ideology is not just

economics he says every fucking field

they they beat us in

yeah

you i mean you're just wrong vaginal

i mean like every other field like in

terms of culture and in terms of um art

and in terms of philosophy okay what

superiority does china have culturally

than america oh wow i think you can

compare chinese tick tock to american

tick tock and it speaks for itself wait

i don't yeah

yeah what are you talking about oh

chinese culture um mass culture and mass

media values and prizes

um

more traditional culture more chinese

culture more kind of like they don't got

addison ray

that they don't have people twerking on

tick tock they don't happen

what do you think that's what irrelevant

okay

irrelevant you're not going to defend

miners

they don't have uh pornography for

children

they don't have um this kind of to do

wait do you think we have child porn on

tick-tock

say yes

wait okay

so what is your definition of

pornography twerking

a child working yes no is that

pornography is what i'm asking that

should be fucking illegal oh wait

irrelevant okay if it's not pornography

then are you saying you're okay with

having children twerking on your phone

no i'm not well no no i'm sorry not on

the phone just explicitly i just don't

think children should be doing that it's

sexually explicit it's not pornography

though

there's a wait what do you think is the

difference between sexually explicit and

politically productive it is a form of

soft core pornography like yes it is

wait do you think every thing that's

sexually explicit or is like

sexually implicit is

soft core porn

absolutely yeah pretty much are you

crazy okay where is porn all right what

is porn

and you and you literally looked up

online

with the google definition of software

we're saying it's not software porn

i was explicitly i was just asking you

what you considered to be

doing that it's sexually explicit it's

not pornography though

would never say twerking is okay on

stream i did not say that hey but he

didn't say he said it he said it wasn't

porn he was it wasn't softcore porn oh

just ask him straight up then

he said it wasn't soft

well ask him right now how far he'd take

it go for it changed his mind because he

knows he sounds fucking weird

wait yeah but what that's working isn't

softcore porn

uh young girls underage girls on tick

tock wait hold on underage born wait

under oh wait under a child no it's not

child pornography

what you think wait 100 you wait okay so

you think

that

you should be able to be prosecuted

legally as child porn

if you have a video on your tech talk of

a young girl twerking

yes yes that's wild

that's crazy

so you want grown men to have videos no

i don't think i don't think young girls

should be twerking i just don't think

that's child porn hold on irrelevant

what do you think of those conservatives

that take their daughters to fucking uh

beauty pageants for five eight-year-olds

yeah no that shit's creepy that

shouldn't oh that's creepy that's creepy

but the tick tock stuff isn't come on it

is wait hold on there's wait do you

think there's a difference between

creepy in child porn

what do you think child porn is

anything

anything

okay

hold up hold up and actually that's

anything that's redistributed by peter

i'm curious wait yeah okay wait

something traded by pedos can be

considered that

so irrelevant thinks that life is like a

twitch debate or a computer or

propositional logic when there's actual

legal precedent in america that defines

there is no legal precedent

i could get a lawyer in here i don't

need homes right now irrelevant

how big is child degeneracy in your mind

is that a big problem yeah it's a huge

fucking prosecutor

you have photos or videos that place

children in sexual context yes

and do you think sexual context include

like

cleavage if if you are like

accumulating those photos and putting

placing them in that context yes it can

be

so weird irrelevant that most your chat

is for children you know dancing in

weird ways on tick tock your whole chats

into that

yeah it's a creepy chat and a question

it's not no it's not actually it's not

like what

okay so what about what specifically is

child pornography and what what does

that mean so like let me give you

another anything redistributed by pito's

ink okay hold on just immediately just

to be clear just stay away from just a

bit right nice name

stop doing that so just to be so just to

be clear right do you you know that

child uh that anything that is

distributed by a pedo is literally just

pictures of girls that's it not sexual

at all just like a picture of them yeah

are you comfortable with the fucking

pedo having people i'm not comfortable

waiting

fucking taking pictures of olympic

dancers and saving a thousand

screenshots hold on if they save a

thousand screenshots on their computer

and you're the fbi and you find this

computer what are you gonna say oh it's

just pictures of the olympics bro come

on dude i'm actually curious do you

support israel or palestine

palestine okay do you think that

palestinians shouldn't be like rocketing

throwing rockets at israel

i refuse to answer your uh question

which is not allowed to be answered on

twitch okay do you think that um let me

rephrase it in a way that like do you

believe that retaliation for

palestinian people makes sense

uh i will never criticize the actions of

the palestinian people

uh any of their actions

nope what about their what about some of

them being quite like like hamas being

not too amicable towards

right

none of my business

okay so you understand that like hamas

is

on the side of palestine in a specific

way right

hey irrelevant there's no free speech on

this fucking topic you know that right i

literally can't even talk about it

there's been

multiple this is literally okay hold on

you're talking about free speech and

free expression and i literally can't

even fucking talk about it listen first

off there is no first hold up hold up no

no no no no no no no no no no no no no

no no no no no no no no no no no no no

no no no no no no no i don't want to do

that

i want to shut this down first of all

there's literally

you cannot compare free speech to this

this is tos for twitch you're not going

to get fucking

got by the cc yeah hamas is a terrorist

organization according to the us

government

so and there's there's anti-terrorist

laws in america that make it so you

cannot advocate for on behalf of

terrorist organizations and what do do

you think that that includes saying that

like hamas has a right to retaliate

against

that on the list oh my god okay you

think you are way more important than

you are just letting you know really

okay what if i told you i know people

who are on lists based on voicing those

opinions personally uh i would say uh

show proof and have been visited by i

would have to i would have if i told you

i know people who were visited by the

fucking government for voicing their

opinion on shit like this huh shit like

this it wouldn't surprise me because i

think the people that you hang with are

probably pretty fucking insane well

you're fucking racist is why because i'm

a fucking 100 lebanese man what people

i'm talking about are people who are

from my background who obviously have

opinions about the middle east

racism

so yeah you're a fucking racist what do

you mean the people i fucking hang

around

yeah you're clearly not hanging around

with the most level-headed people if

they're on fucking watch lists okay

that's just it

that's the way right

arab americans were not unfairly

targeted and put on watch list unfairly

for small did i say

well that's good to know now all i made

the claim was is that these individuals

that you're hanging with if all of them

are on fucking watch lists it sounds

like maybe you're hanging with a crew of

people that are pretty fucking

when did i say everyone i'm hanging with

is on a watch i said i know people

personally who were put on watch list

for saying really mundane shit

did they post on facebook and then the

yeah like shit like that okay

yeah

so yeah i just out of curiosity um yeah

how would they know that they're on

watch list

because they were visited and shit

okay visited by who

like agents federal agents and what they

get asked yeah would they get asked

okay fed

next question

okay buddy

okay i you know i think if uh vosh can

get away with saying what he said about

israel i think you could probably get

away with saying what you want is

literally israel being one of our

largest allies and not have like

constant fucking fbi tapping his fucking

phones and him getting black bag

isn't someone who comes from a country

where that like agents would deduce that

there is a real connection yeah

from hollywood from hollywood wait what

about a son then

hassan's from turkey yeah

and there's no known connection between

turkey that like that would justify the

assumptions are you serious

are you genuine

wait what about your involvement in

afghanistan in the taliban you are not

going to be assumed to be a hamas agent

just because you're from church

i never said like specifically a hamas

agent but i'm talking about like getting

looked at by the government

hassan is an extremely westernized like

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americanized within turkey

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dude they know everything about him he's

not just like some random immigrant who

comes from the middle okay so i want to

i want to hear how is how is hassan a

lib let's hear how he's a lib okay go

for it

okay so you just lost and took the l on

this debate and you wanted to pivot no i

i feel like you're oh

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