Introduction to Dialectics
2021-02-11
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let's see what we can
what's going on
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let's see was in the chat did
oh my goda so many youre cant nam you all
what up robert
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jesus man save span the whole fuking chat when i was be
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what up
the guy who's the japanese characters i can' read your name have a better name
what up what up dialectical vegan inco egoist what a curse name
what up dan lit
shut ut damn little
they say your volumes too low
my volume is too long
according to gentle ginjee
per
well i don't know why it's it's low i
it shouldn't be b
there's no reason for it to be law
is it really low
guys
is it low
toemmy this well
it doesn't seem like it's slow
this sa some say it's a little
whatbut mind
yours is probably fine
let me see if it's my uh hold on
mis s
they say yours is low relative to mine
jesus
either i should lower its lower it's or you should increasees someway this
how about now is it better now because i just turned off a
it's fine
i can't
lower my mike sensitivity a little
both of you are fine ok
oka
our guys
few quick things we've got to get through before we do this edg you screen
dream
um first of all guys
i sha to talk about that later when it's about the edg you stuff later but i want to get through some some stuff
first
where to begin
sage wants to debate you on lefty pool
why
what do you mean on lefty pool
he wants to come on stream and debate us or he wants me to go type with my fingers and waste my fucking time
type
i don't want to fork
type it's so fucking cut time consuming
and well guys it's up to you actually
if you want me to type there's going to be no streams for weeks
it's either i do streams or i write essays on left popole and i don't want to fok and write essays on left
f
fink it's a waste of time for me
and for everyone else involved
you really want me to go on left you pol and just start typing fucking books for everyone in essays and shit
i promise you it's not going to be
and it's just going to be ugly
trust me it will be ugly
text format
it's so fucking like
my fingers
are so weary of just
why why do people this is the metaphysical battle that's been going on guys
there's a metaphysical battle that's been going on
anglos prefer text
because for them text equals essence
again remember it's protestant is
they want something to be able to reduce they want something eternal timeless
and just static that they can fucking reduce everything to
for them
text equals the true essence they don't actually see truth and meaning and discussion
as something that in unfold
in actual time it actually develops and as something that's actually living in active
they see it as something static in the past
which is why they prefer the text format
over actually using their voice and discussing like human beings
you know
the only reason i i write anything
is either for me as an index of memory
or i have a targeted audience
that's why i haven't released anything to you guys yet because i want to know who my audience is to know
what i should write for the
but anglos have the approach of writing to whom it may concern
to literally any the void or something right
but your audience is always going to be determined because your audience is always going to have
a certain set of ideas in their head a certain range of knowledge in their head
a certain level of familiarity with the words you're going to be using
there's so many variables
you have to have at least some kind of sense of
to affect to write for
so that's why we haven't released any writings or i haven't written anything
for you guys yet
n know
that's why we privilege streaming over type
because
i don't type and i don't make writings to whom it may concern
the only types of writings i make to whom it may concern are for me
as an index of my member
my theory so i can return to it
and
you know i
retrace my steps as far as
where i am theoretically
so
because a word for me triggers a certain association
that same word will trigger an entirely different association for you
words have different
i don't get this later because is actually going to be the
the educational topic of our stream
dialect
believe or not
well he can't debate in person he's just too slow
the thing is guys about why i say come debate me
the thing about that
is that
i actually have no intention
of
being like wasah and destiny and gaslighting in real time
and just
doing it for the purposes of attack
the reason i'm always telling people to come on stream is because when you come on stream
you actually have to treat me like a human being
and you have to give me the assumption
that i am trying to say something meaning
ok
and every time we've had anyone on as long as they've been polite
i've been polite too and i try to establish some kind of common meaning
i try to adjust how i speak
to accommodate others and where they are and what words and associations they're familiar with
i try to help anyone who
who's looking for
i work with
that's what i'd like to do
when it comes to having discussions
i want to work with
so when i'm engaging in debates
in shit
i'm always on the defense
it's up to you to come on stream show your face and try to attack me
i'm never going to be the person who's on the offens
and who's just going to try to
have someone come on and completely gas like
it's it
i always afford everyone including my enemies
the benefit of trying to say something and communicate something meaningful
it doesn't matter if it's my worst enemy on falcking earth
i always afford my enemies the benefit
that they are trying to communicate something meaningful
ok
so
i'm always going to be on the defensive
so if you want to come on stream and attack me
i will defend myself
and i will successfully defend myself
i mean at least that's the most likely out
f as i'm
but you're right i can't pretticy
i
that's why we want people
to speak and use their voice
that's why we prefer that type of medium
because when you type your bluff
typing words text is abstraction
bluff
there's a guy behind the fuck and keyboard
and there's an audience
that typing is addressed
you know it's bluffing to only
only fu
it's just focking bluff
because at the end of the day we're all human beings
and we all have this intention
to communicate some kind of meaning
when we're engaging in communication
ok
when you're typing you're bluffing that you're not actually addressing only human beings you're also speaking to god himself or
it's just fucking bluff
and i don't have fucking time
know
i would rather have a constructive
engagement of s
kind
you know
i
reminds me of the dogs they have a tendency to bark at you and they are
behind a fence and they will make it seem like they're repeated pieces
that's exactly it
that's literally exactly it
literally the biggest form of bluffing ever
yeah i know du
i'm not one of those people
who when i see debate i'm not talking about like a high school debate club where there's formal rules
who won the debate of course
and i don't i don't care about any of that
when i see debate i mean
attack me with the same ferocity
and the same dismissiveness
try doing that when you're face to face with me and you fucking can'
that's my fole fucking point about a debate
my whole point of a debate
isn't where i think it's a game where whoever's like wash and destiny do it
i don't see debate
that way
i want people to come on
and explain their problem with us explain your
if you can't communicate your beef to us
f you can't afford us the assumption of being human beings trying to communicate
meaningful things
you're just fucking bluffing behind your keyboard
that's my fucking point
you know
could you forgive redeemed sage
he wanted it
if he apologized and stop being so fucking annoying
of course i would forgive
see
but he comes on and he's so fucking annoying
and
it's like
it's like you're not even dealing with a human being
he doesn't act fucking human
as we what's that word in chinese
where it's like being human
where they just say like just be human
or uh
just sort and
its litterary means s ubin
s
and sage can't do that
you just can't
be human
can't act
in a human fucking way
you know that's why he mechanically and robotically just spams things
he doesn't want to establish any meaningful bridge of communication
doesn't want to work with us
he just wants to spam fucking phrases and annoy us
that's why we have this problem with
autism boxes
you know
it's because it ultimately comes to this robotic bluffing
jack
yeah i'm not going to get in
the debate moderator says i can't docs or issue death threats to my
year
exactly dark worries
anglo debate is theatric
and real debate is about discovering truth
it's exactly that
i think it's what i have
drilled in my brain the debate is conflict the losers humiliated therefore permanently wrong can't
son and stup
we don't want that approach
but we're never the ones
who who refused to afford other people the
benefit of communicating human meaning
that's the thing
so we want people to come and try to
dismiss us like how they're doing with their fuck
fingers
keyboard
and i want to i want to show you guys how much they're going to fail in doing it
when they actually try to talk to us
one on one
because when they talk to us one on one they're going to have to afford us the benefit
that were human beings
trying to communicate something meaningful and they're going to try to have to work with us to see
what we are trying to say in good faith
that's why
one dislike say yeah i know
but it's supposed to be a way to come to a mutual understanding of both developerspo that's what i prefer to but again there are people hostile to us like vosh
and that will be a con
you know that will be a conft
but infrared
is never going to
to outright dismiss you know infrared is not when we debate people like vosh and all those people
we're not going to be like oh you're any empirical facts it doesn't matter we we are going to hold wash to his commit
and hold him to his
issue
and hold him to the meaning he communicates
we're going to deal with him on those terms
we're not going to say
you know oh according to the facts and of our the meeting according to the tre definition of dictionary you got it wrong
i don't i don't know i don't believe that's a way to engage anyone
even if it's my worst fucking enemy
not a way to engage any
i
dislikes the haves agorithm yeah i don't care about
se nine viewers almost
blass
am
i want to give you guys an example of this i don't know if i was going to share this
but for example we'll get comments like this
ok
and this is sage by the
this is say
not danll led bed that's a cool guy
shining path is safe
and i want to show you
why we don't want to engage in tex debate
and we're not going to engage with people in text form
unless we're defending something we put out tex
then well i'll probably go and defend it
people want to challenge
text
and i'll wipe the foot
or
just like how
know i'm life
but
this is why
and it's just this is the crux
so then bill comes in good faith
is he aware of you n know he's not aware of us but i'm just saying like that's an example of someone who's clearly hostile
almost a complete
damn this country of sixty people in a classroom yet
voss spends his
he probably had knows about us but they're probably looking at us and just seeing
how far is this going to go
and they're going to eventually see we're going to get really big
we are going to get we already are getting really big at an extremely rap
pigs
one hob
no't
so been
but anyway daniel this is a fine question
he says not sure what this video was in
can you explain what you mean by post imperialism and your analysis of why you think we live in post
perio was
imperialsm still works with the importan export of finance capital
the tmost competition is for the control he's explaining the
lennon's imperialism
acord tohim
times have changed for sure
the new it's not the same as wmenro his book but the empires present the empires a sending act
to the precepts laid out in the high states of capitalism
i want to remind you guys some
remind you guys of some
we made a pool
long time ago
here
and we made this poll for you guys
and we linked it
to you guys
and so everyone
you know we tried to get everyone
to be able to see this pool
twenty eight people voted
for it
and everyone wanted the next educational stream to be into the dialectics
so an intro to imperialism stream
is going to come after this
it's not going to be this stream
that's the reason
i don't want to delve more into this issue of imperialism
because
you guys aren't familiar with our position
it's a complicated position and i want to be able to
to communicated in the best way in the most
formative way in
most clear way possible
i also don't want to type sentences
that i know people in bad faith are going to take and try to reduce the whole of our extremely complicated
addition to
because again
that's the anglo approach
trying to look for the substantial essence of
that is somehow static and inscribed in time
before the fact
that's not a search for communicating human meaning that's a stt's a necrophilia searching for dead things and dead objects
i
to worship
we need to make
no we don't need to go
i
that's that's the reason that's the reason and another another reason to
another reason to besides the fact that i don't want to
engage in all this kind of
what's up break
engage in all this kind of typing in my fucking comments and writing books and my comments trust me i've been down this path
for ok trust me i have
i don't want to fulcking you
i don't want to fok and argue
on the fucking internet
with
it's such a waste of time it's such a fucking waste of time and it's always just going to end
with the opponent
giving up
because if they do not have more energy
then me
trust me they don't
okay
but anyway
here's what i told him i said i disagree
but we will delve further into the topic in the future
and that's the honest to god true
right
honest got true
fuck the drama this isn't drama i'm just going to
i'm just going to use this as an example and we're also going to look at the new read it that needs made
and check out that ready
i
he said but when
and indvidual be great you have at least one so this is a good faith guy asking for a one minute explanation
okay
exactly dialectically was the only dead thing is an abstraction
and that's what anglo seem to worsh
and that's why it's necrophilia
and individu be great you have at least one minute explanation for now
ok
that's a good that's a good a's eas asking a question in good faith
i
i said here's my one minute explanation
there's aspects of nineteenth century capitalism that persisted when lennon wrote imperialism
they just became super
there are aspects of imperialism that persist up to the present day
it's just that they became superf
it's not actually what in the main defines the era post breton wouldd
brennon woods by the ways the monetary arrangement
that emerged after world war two between the united states
and
the rest of the non communist world
more or less
that's ultimately would strick
we are in a not we're not just in op pose ok so i just said all this stuff
and i also gave him a good intro
to the american uni polar era which is the very young azeo foxs book
the global minotar
it's not a perfect book it's not a great book
but it contains a lot of good facts
and information
ok so that's why i recommended this
we are so
he said nice and then he said you know he disagreed more
and he he and then i said
for us polarity has a special conceptual relevance that isn't just political
it's also economic
ok that's what we said
so going back to this
what was it that i was trying to communicate
what i was trying to communicate here
is that if i consider our era to be post imperialism
it isn't because it liquidates or invalids
invalidates lenin's imperialism
it's because i think lenin's imperialism
ok
has been subsumed
you want
by a greater
type of the
a greater type of process of
pack
that's all i meant
this is the only thing i meant to communicate we don't reject lenin's imperialism
we just think
similar
to
nineteenth century capitalism it has become absorbed
part of a greater
and
i don't want to say system but a
a greater historical
development
cross
ok let's just call it that
that's the only thing i wanted to communicate i didn't make any argument
i didn't make some partisan position and i'm going to defend with a debate
i don' not make any state empirically controversial statement
i just communicated that we don't reject lenon's imperialism
that's all i meant to communicate
so here comes sage
and sage was so humiliated by last dream
and he made a fake account called shining path
and he thought this was going to be his opportunity to expose infrared
and he wants us to
give him a string of words
that he can completely
he can completely debunk
right by taking it in bad faith taking it out of context
taking it in isolation
so he can run back to lefty pool and say he beat hot
and it's so fucking pathetic
at this point
at this point
sages become our goll
you know
it's really sad
he's really become our god
you know this guy
thisy much what he's become
in the beginning he k approached the hobbits
and he approached gandolf and all those i don't know w those people were
and at first he acted like he was their friend and he was nice
he said
what did he say
come check out my thread
check out mine stad
about
the global goolad
please come check it out and i went and checked out his thread
and it turned out to be fucking stupid and i didn't like his threat but i tried to be polite about
then he went fucking crazy and he became sneagle
the deceiver and the annoying
you know this is what i think of when i think of say
it's this
it's literally this f were strong proces you bg
may appreciate
how the fungs you figure out it was safe
six all of ten impression
because i figured out it was saved
because
there's no one this but her who's against
and
he's yeat he's clear the type of guy who would do
you know
but
this is what he's become to us and i actually feel bad for him
that's why i was engaging him in the chat because i don't want to be this sadistic guy
who has this pet
smeagle with this pet reek
and i don't want
and i want people to be dignified human beings all
i don't want infrared
to have these despicable creatures
as our servants and our jesters
play
i want everybody to be able to redeem their self selfs
so that's why i was being polite
you know
yeah
that's why i was bulling polite if i was an abusive type of guy
maybe i would take
but honestly going back
about it
you know i just don't want
i don't want this type of
humiliated creature
and maybe he has a b d s m fets like neat pointed out
he might have a humiliation fetish
and i kind of feel dirty
and i kind of feel
not right
like
feeding into this guy who gets off
on i'm being like
you know
so
the angle of view history is a status set of dead facts of that events
yeah
i
the general consensus is he's a fed
i've had an encounter believe it or not in you tube comment
about half a decade ago more than half a decade ago
and there was a guy who did act like say
his argumentation shit
but here's the scary thing guys
is that this valking guy
told me the exact amount of money i had in my bank account
with no other information to go of
they had no information about
they didn't have my e mail they didn't have my name they had zero information about me
and they guessed
they didn't guess they
they commented
they said the exact amount of money i had in my bank account
time which is like
two hundred thirty four dollars in
de s
more
isn't that fucking scary
and i think that was a fed honest
i really do what do you guys
i
i tried to as people in our group
who that could have possibly been
i know yet it is his comments i shared it on twitter
i
maybe he has a bd s m fetish
no i didn't say like me di i say like me i didn't mean
i
he said
this is what his argument was
talk so much that you say so little idiot
right off the bat if you're going to be rude to me i'm not going to fuck and help you
i am under no obligation to help you if you're going to fucking be rude
functionality iperalism was not dependent on whether french or germans or british prevailed
which is a funny thing to
to say because i didn't say anything about that
it's the basis in the economical not the geopolitical
but i already said that for us polarity
has economic relevance it has special conceptual relevance
sage came in here
and wanted to immediately
debated
but just going off my youtube account isn't that crazy that they knew my exact bank account shit
financial capital extraction from the periphery is not superfluous this is
some hear i means world system theory take
it's the core of the economic relationship between the us westlak and the perip
ok so he just made an assertion
and i just said keep barking dumb fuck
keep barking i'm not going to address your views
if you're going to be rude
and you didn't say anything of any significance
you if you were't you would expand what the fuck you were talking about
why would i do that when you're going to be rude to me who are you
and where did you come
but no you coed trigger to that
called you out of being an idiot because you're a bad faith actor being fucking group to me i'm not going to help you
try to clarify and
and i said you didn't make an argument he said response go to make one
he said ok let's start again
he just repeated the same thing he said
this is autism by the way this is autism what have tri
come on can we please forget and say we know it
i this is going to be the last
thing about say
and is because
this is going to go out
to be a general
w'm go to i'm going to take the red it up
and then we'll
i want its i want to take a tweet and show you gus a tweet
there's a few things i want to
worry
yeah
i
you didn't tell ok then he said
you didn't tell me about
what made post breton woods capitalism diff
but we never we never
gave you any indication
that we intended on telling you that we said we're going to have a stream
and we'll clarify it more and net stream
when did you get this idea that you're entitled to an explanation
you just made that statement and then pointed out to the subsequent
i didn't make a statement i clarified that we
don't
rebuke
lenin's imperialism we just think
there's something else going on we in a laboratey we didn't explain upon
nor did we have any obligation
i don't know where you're getting this idea that we had an obligation to do that
we did it
but he wanted me to do
was write a paragraph
condensing really complicated views that need extensive elaboration
in order to get a gotcha
and reduce us to some ridiculous
substance it's again the classic anglo position
they want something static
finite
sorry definite
eternal
to
pin as the essence
the true essence
a string of words to reduce everything
ok
sorry
that's not how human communication
were expression of meaning
works
ok
you have to begin first
with a good faith assumption on meaning of meaning on our part
i
of trying to say something
i were going to talk about it later in the in the dialogue
yeah exactly and i'm glad you guys can all see this
right
i'm glad you guys can all see this
me giving yeah and i explain this and then this is where the comedy begins
and this is what i want to show
i
why should i care about whether you yeah exactly
this is read this comment guy
this is really
this is fugging hilarious dude he said
running back live on camera
to your chat
but isn't it more balsy to be live on camera
than to type in the fucking common section like a bitch
whenever you backed into a corner how is we how we backed into a corner
if someone in the chat
sees it that i don't see it
how how we backed into a corner
your pre you're probably copy pasting from archived comments on our communism one to one
you know it's interesting a lot of people accuse us
of basically
saying things without elaborating on them or just
not giving the proper definition
this is the opposite of what we do isn't it
we don't say things in ways people are already familiar
and purposefully too
we don't want to
virtue signal
communist or marxist talking points
that you find on the internet because we think those are really misleading
so we're not doing that
and people regularly give a shit over that fact
which is why you have nothing left to say to me
ok do
it's like you could tell it sage because nobody else gets this close to me like brochs take a few steps back
honest
i don't like you like
understand just please
i can smell you
take it it's like he's trying to grab my dick or some
u
use
take a few steps back you are way too close
you are way too close
way too close
ok i accept your concession
here we go with the b d s
a
the bd s
fetishism
you should not let your
you know i don't know what he's doing
rea guess gs we go on the twitter and read it
walking away
all that time spent doing sports and working out who would have thought
that didn't mean shit in the marketplace of idea
he's getting all of this shit
people like me who debunk you
which
ok
he demonk does i guess your ability to make a basket from a three point line
when did i say i played basketball
as much as your anorexic ex girlfriend
who's king now chn
i mean met because i'm the streamer
and you're writing my dick dud
don't forget where you are right now you're in the comon section of my video
so it sounds like i'm still king i don't know what you guys
my intellect to superior you belong the leeches and parasites of the labor move
what do i have to do with the labor movement
that he's talking
like what do i have to do with
and i just said come on stream if you want to challenge it
you have to put skin in the game because we're putting skin in the game
you're the one who came to us we didn't come to you
you know
ah
yes
and then there's one another thing i wanted to show you guys really quick
is
this reminded me
why don't you read this guy's is this is the most pathetic fucking thing you ever read
i hope everyone has fun talking about forced the vote for yet another day
i will be in negotiations for a collective bargaining agreement all day
doing something actually tangible for work
people
best of luck to the discorse
shut the fock up
who
whyse what the funct does that have to do with force the vote
this is such disgusting
opportunism
oh while you're talking about while you're talking about
the struggle for true executive dictatorship in supremacy and actual political power
and you're talking about that struggle
i will be sweating and being suffering and being in pain
doing tangible things
youve got this cocktail of seventeenth century anglo metaphysics
and
vulgar protestant calvinistic
self flagellation i know that's a catholic thing but
worship of suffering
i don't respect this i don't know this is been the talking point of the democrats for many years now
is basically
oh whiy you're working on this whole bernie thing
meanwhile hillary clinton
and obama we're actually helping people in the real world
trying to get real health care instead of
bernie sanders pine the sky medicare for all
oh while you
we're talking about abstractions
i went and voted for biden
tangibly helping kids and kids it's like shut the fuck up dude
this is why americans need this type of spiritual
existential
phills out ediological whatever they need some type of revolution
to free themselves
from this
posturing
because all this is all left is fucking do is they advertise pain and self
listen
i'm not going to shit on people who do charity
because you actually are helping people and that's fine
but the minute you're doing charity of some kind and yes what she is doing does amount only to charity
you're tangibly helping people on an individual level that's the de
you want an angle
that's vulcan haer
ok
this is charity
and i'm not going to respect you doing this in fact i'm going to spit on you
metaphorically speak
when you go on twitter and start bragging about it
in trying to contrast this
to things like force the vote
when you use this as an excuse to contrast it
bigger issues
i'm going to shit on you i'm not going to respect
they you're
you're suffering to tangibly help you
it doesn't command my fulk
that
because you're using it for attention
and you're using it
to virtue signal
then it completely look it completely annihilates everything you're trying to say
and do
i have no respect for it
whatsoever
and i'm so sick of americans being conned by this
stupid fucking bluffing in blackmail
i will be in a shut the fuck up who gives the shit
go fucking do the
no difference from
no biden and saying
i can get things done you know it's always a blackmile it's being a blackmile for decades and still the same blackmile
this is why anglo materialism
and
fighting it
has such concrete relevance even on a political level
because the cult of so called tangibility
can only persist
subsist
within a pre established range of possibilities
when you're trying to challenge the range of possibiliti
you're inevitably not going to be doing the tangible things
that are currently considered possible
that's why
a dialectics for example has concrete relevance
helping americans
i was going to trigger a lot of people progressive forces as ambiguous as that sounds
fight for things like jimmy dor
it's going to help them
clarify
and fight against this retarded fucking
anglo protestant i don't know what to call it
mentality that has literally retarded the left
and is the quintessential expression of opportunism
among the left
it's a form of emotional manipulation i know do it it is
it is
it's exactly
folk
form of a motion
i mean collective bargaining is important
ok it may be important but in what context
because
you know
here it's not important
it just isn't
your virtue signaling about it like you said
it's virtue sing yeah i don't care if people want to collective bargain that's fine
that's fine
you know this is one of the last things i want to say about this whole union thing
right we're coming under fire for supposedly being against unions in the union movement
i
which is really dishonest
because we didn't do that
and i don't know maybe unions are some new thing that are
you know the future of everything
but from my experience for people my age
their heads and their hearts are not there
their minds and hearts are not it's mostly these kind of hipster people
you know
if you know what i'm talking about you know what i'm talking
but
i'd very skeptical i'm very sceeptical
because why are google engineers now unionized
why is folking everyone unionized
hm
even all the fucking petty booge what type p m c
type of elements are unionizing
i'm very sceeptical
if you want my two cents but i could be wrong i'm open to being wrong
i'm open to being wrong
but
i feel like it's another it's a type of attention blackmail
because
they want to capture people's attention
and they're not doing it as successfully as to cast you six notine
something you know what i mean
and this is a demographic has to not go soon
oh you got to go soon
but um before i go i'm just going to say
tomorrow we're going to have a special screen with a special guest
uh it's gon to be
six p m e s t
um
and i'm going to be
the main guy hosting so i'm not just going to be chill you around so if you get many of you could really get tired of hazzi should show up for tomorrow but
i'm just nobody will gets ever gets hired off us
all i see you guys
guys yet tomorrow six pm as there is going to be leading that
that show
and it's good we're going to be interviewing
can't pronounce his name
sorry for that but
he's a prominent guy on twitter
and it's going to be a really sick
so i recommend all of you guys
tomorrow it
i
yeah
yeah that's the guy who's come
and ezra set the whole thing up so i don't
there's i'm kind of in the dark about a lot of things
i
yeah the stream will be in english the stream will be in english
and it's going to be our sixth official episode of the infrared show
how because we have different episodes where we ent
and but this one's going to be the first one that's live
i
it's going to be the first one that's live
okay i think we're going to check the rebdit now
and then i'm going to go right into
the dialogue introduction to dialogue
so let's check out this new ready
on
right off the bat
see in some
seeing some stuff
us does
direct strike
my precious
up
yeah i mean
i don't know what to fuck and say you know it just
yeah
all right nice
oh my god u is what is my cultu of personality read it
i
wow what is that
what is this flower that don't get this
nice pick though
i'm going to oup for
will infrared be answering questions
yes
what the
fuck is going on
wo wait a minute
it's the fucking mossad agent guys we need another character
bring out the means we need this is were going to have more recurring character
for context
there was a mossad agent one suspecting is one
who is in a lefty pool thread who used this copy posture from his mossage brochure
two cent
israeli cyber army
shares on the internet
and this guy seems like he's going to be a
regular character
because he made an account
with only one post called has is anti semitic
i
my anti semitic
feel like i'm more semitic than you right
israel is an indigenous state
it's not a crime for indigenous people to declare
and it's the same one
from the brochure of the
id f cyber army that they share on the fucking internet
and he thinks has this is this is almost like sage level
the it's like the i is the idea
have a bunch of sages in it who are begging for hazes attention
get off my cock
i don't care
but
i don't give a shit about his
i
no
i
does israel have the right to
posswill
no
no state
has the right
to exist
you understand
i
so i don't
i don't think isral
just don't
just don't
sorry i don't
um
like i you want to right to exist
how can you know state was formed by saying i have a right to exist like
you know
but
yeah i don't reck i don't i oficially do not recognize as
how about
like i'm i don't know if i speak for everyone infrared
but for me at least there's no israeli embassy we don't recognize israel
and we have no diplomatic relations
this
you know fock fock is real i what
so
i don't
i
i know did we have a whole cast of villains
but
to
we have a whole fuck in
cast of villain
it's fucking crazy s
yeah i know
ignore nonsense ignore massade
seems like this is a regular character we're going to have
be point doctors first question
where's your pass
yeah
modern state yet
i think israel's kind of cringed you
i've never seen like an organic expression of anything israal
israel seems like the most fake state ever
and they try so hard via p r departments to make it seem like they're a thing
oh yeah israel's a thing no israel's not really a thing i think it's completely synthetic artificial
try hard state
it's trying to be a legitimate state
keeps failing
that's my impression it seems like they just try hard they're like reaching
you know like they're trying so hard to be a thing
what that mean girls quote
it's not a thing
ok
like stop trying to make
it
a thing
it's not a fucking thing
o
like
yeah ok i don't want to get
this will get us bandage sh
know this why we can't stream on twitch
because i think you get banned
twitch
talk should about
yes i has
what do you mean we're already living in socialism yet
has you said you areunfamiliar with the communist party peru i'm kind of familiar with them
i'm kind of familiar with them but thanks for the book i'll probably check it out sometime
i
maybe
but i am somewhat familiar with
i'm just
someone came in the chat and asked us a very specific question
have you seen every mares israel yeah i did it i saw that it's crazy
crazy
israel has no history
criminal record
it's my impression too i don't i don't see israel as a legitimate nation
doesn't seem like a real state
seems like completely synthetic artificial
anglo america
project
i see a anddre amin also bo
named
it's called
i
i don't know
check out the read it and just click the read it
check out the ready
they got the redy
sohow picture those who don't
who don't get whit house cause a status quo
source oil i forgot let mean
yes the answer this is yes
does anybody have a list of all the big corporations with marxist uses
funny
yeah dude no one cares no one really gives a shit
i mean like no one cares
about
it's socialism isn't shocking it's like the default now you know
i think you're right we should obomas private corporation
look how easily she responds to that
that's yeah it's a good example to
what a bucking liar dude
just because i said we're going to educational stream does mean it's the next stream
so
we're here now
like in terms
do you love black people and reparations
for your
racism
what a strange question
on
what a weird question
i don't know what
what you're asking
i
what is this
what the fug is this
look at this
say just something
but this is a legendary folk
picture do it i save this picture
this is a legendary picture
i don't know who made this who made this fucking pig
step up and take credit
for making this pit
is a sick picture
i love this
whoever made this
pole is still here
no no no don't don't don't
we're not going to ban
unless they
do bannable shit
so i think someone
is sharing us around
like right wing image boards
our leftist is doing
by the way it's a co hundred percent leftist
and it's funny
because they always accuse us of being nosballs and shit
but when push comes to shove
at the end of the day
you know
at the end of the day
like
yeah they just i guess they they they stoop to that level because that's how much that they're left
thirt
like who's the true leftist here right
they're going on pool and they're going all over these image boards and sharing our stream
but what they don't understand
did they do that just now youre arasian supremacist because i saw they did that last stream
they did it last stream
and
i don't know why
people do it
because
i'm not
scared like i'm not scared of people from those images
's not
yeah i know did i saw that last stream but did they do it again
let them do it again dude we need attention we need exposure
i
and who knows maybe a lot of the will find us interesting
you know
i don't care
it's not like
i don't know why they think this is ourki achilles yl giving us free attention
even if we get brigaded with
dislikes
and negative comments
that's still attention dude
i
prices
good press right how they say it
but what a fucking loser left is to
i hate left this
more than those poll people because at least poll people are honest about who they are in shit
but meanwhile leftist
act like there i'm the real leftist antifa
and then you're a fascist ties you're a fascist
but then they go on pol and share us because the're that buthard and that much little bitches
and they're trying to run to b p please attack he go ahed attack her
dude but paul hates you
more than i do
they hate you more than i do dude
you are the fucking left that cancels them
and deep platforms people
d platform alex jones on if you are the very left
that they hate
i have nothing to do with you
meanwhile
i didn't i don't care about cancell culture in deep laft
six
you're the left they hate dude stop trying to run to poll
have them attacked to me
when they hate you more than they hate me probably
right
yeah i know
free advertising exactly
like they think they can stop us or hurt us somehow
you can
you really can't do there's nothing you can do
there's nothing you can do about infrared dude we're unstoppable we're going to keep growing
we're going to take down fosh
we're going to change the whole game
cannot be stopped
can share us wherever you want
go ahead shares
what do you mean strikes hard
direct tax
isn't it this thlough isn't this type of smeagle creature we're dealing with
who's doing this type of shit
le's wll actually allows paul to debate us
yeah i mean i'm not scared of debate i'll debate anyway
yet
mm
what you mean strikes our direct action
direct action
that
previous votes what' this
as looket forrom you
it saves disgrace
wow dude even on left boll they voted he was disgraced this is cool
even on lefty poole they disgraced him just like i said he's disgraced forever bears suff
six hours stream time
this time hopefully not
what
whatc is this
haz his love
late
turn to monkey
for me
w is this like my culture personality threat
anglohotism bogs
one
this video was'dre
all right i think that's it i think that's all on the read it let's refresh one more time
or someone
so much here thats nice
twenty seven members while we're growing
we're growing
f a third down pool
it's already on page eight and going to get provee soon three
applies and nobody cares yeah i doubt anyone gives a fuck
but you see how isn't it direct action
cancelling poll based the redirecting poll to other leftists
great
well that's what they do dude that's what they do
but serusly how isn't a direct action because this like watch our previous dream d
there's a guy who kept scamming us about it it's
i've explained i'm not going to explain it again how about that i'm not going to explain
it's just going to take too long to get explain again someone in the chat explain to the
i just can't i don't have energy explaining
how ha sees himself
this is the most low effort post but at least you're
keeping it going
all right that's that's enough for that
and some that ok guys
i'm going to
here's what we're goninga do
think you need to let me in
no i don't
a there is someone who shared us on poll
that i am seen in my discourse
yeah dud one guy liked us
yeah this isn't that hostile dude lefty polls way worse to us lefty pulls way worse to us than pull
isn't that sad
lefty pol hates us way more
left us hate us way more
on
okay i'm goinga
open up m s paint
because that's how this is going to work for this intro to dialectics
we're going to go back to emis paine
and
where is the window capch
oh it's right
right here and then
okay
i'm going to be right back
and
will
put this aside for now
because
we don't need this to distract
and i'm going to be right
back
ok i'm going to right back
im goming to just blow my nose a beit or two seconds
all right come back
don't worry guys i'm still here
i'm still here
on
yeah it seems like people on pull
do like us better
give us a rundown on what you are all about i don't understand how you can idolize lenin marx and trotsky unless you are jewish
well we're not trotsky is
but
i don't i i that doesn't brian that doesn't make sense because
despite the fact that in europe
there they were very jews were very prominent
for obvious reasons
i
in marxism and also in all everything revolutionary and pretty much
interesting that was going on in europe from philosophy to such
freud psychoanalysis
phenomenology neo conti all this interesting stuff was going on in europe
jews were involved right
because there
you know
but
for most marxist leninists
you know you can't read that's why you don't really see anybody making anti semitic conspiracies about
vietnam and china
cuba
flucking
the majority of countries
like and nobody makes you know nothing nobody makes anti semitic claims about like bresnev soviet
it's only in likek the twenties before
world war two
that people are obsessed with this whole like anti semitic
right
n i know he's from paul it's ok
ok
why post on lit
i didn't
bob horkin
leftists don't like me
left to sve me they accuse me of being a nosball
and they don't like us
because
we're not politically correct pretty much
so they're trying to go run to you guys on fortune
to come get us
like basically
it's like b pretty much like these
they're pretty much like hillary clinton and t for left
you know what i'm saying
and they have a problem with infrared because infrared is coming from a
so yeah
that's that's pretty much was going on we did not
i i didn't go on for i' never been on for tun and before i never shared nothing on there
we got leftist haters going onftune
to trk because they want to cancel us right because they're accusing us of being anti semitic
they're accusing us of being too wok
they're accusing us of being
the nosbels their kingos been all sorts of things which were not
we're not
but
that's what's going on base
that's why we've been shared all over fortchen we're being shared on pol
be in sured on lift
other leftists are very but heard about us in the first thing the decided to do
guan pool
because they want to see us
gone
because they can't cancel us
so now they're turning to poll to get the job done
but
infrared jus is not going anywhere you know
but h you know
i can understand
that you're coming in here thinking were the aggressors were the ones going out around
sharing ourselves around
we're not doing a duty
we're not
you know
but feel free to stick around no
i guess all preped
oh
what do they say all attention is good attention right
all p r is good p r
someone wants to debate you on pool
well they can d m me on twitter
twit it dot constant shoan for red
and i'll let them on the show and they can come
debate
but we kind of want to get into this dialect
as long as there are you know polite
sir
not going to give me band
alexander i don't know why you just
marrige
twe minutes
what is the marxist end game though
we don't think in terms of end games
we just want to be delivered
to the development of contradictions as they actually unfold in reality itself
so
there is no real end goal it's just it's almost like acceleration ism right
it's about unleashing the forces of production
and it's about the perseverance of humanity after modern
my rundown
so
it's about overcoming anglo saxon modernity that's what i think marxism is about
overcoming and moving beyond anglo saxon lagernity
i
this stream might be his first copy stright no we've had copyright
streams will
work
communist murder my countryman comis to the enemies of an which countryman robal country from
they're banned from twitters make a new twitter
tkn a twitter
as a whole
chill do that i live in america so
sho with
but chill with that kind of shit
i'm saying
to with that's a we got that mossad guy that id f army guy
coming and attacking us
so i'm already in the spotlight by somebody you know
so let's chill with that stuff
for some reason i'm already in the spotlight weve got the fuck in two cent i d f army
writing essays and brochures for us
so
poland
dude
wasn't poland based under communism
but then they became
open to american globalism liberalism
mike
yeah there was there was world war two and shit
but pretty much after the smoke cleared
i'm pretty sure polish people
kind of had it better off
maybe i'm wrong
communism can be beat capitalism can be beaten
bob you must not know that we already live in so
capitalism is already a fake
capitalism is a complete myth du
look what happened games stop there is no capitalism
it's already fucking defeated
you know
it's already gone
trust me the federal reserve
already plans our economy
game
we already live in social
even libertarians know that we don't live in
real capitalism
as we're back i don't is he back
who's back
don't se anyone
i've seen on
a fortune gang
yeah guys reminder i'm not the one who shared
this stream to fortune you know
wasn't me
you are wrong
i don't think i am dude i think it depends on wh talked
right i think in poland people were working in like steel factories had dignified lives and shits
now they have to be
er drivers and shit probably right
what are you what are your goals in plain ingglish please i'm not up to date in your lingo
i
to bring down the american establishment
and usher and help
accelerate the new era of multipolarity
etceter etcea
and
surpassing of liberalism
and anglo saxon modornity
pridate communism no breadlines no one v be no show trials
for who though
robert
first of all n k v d
that happened immediately after world war two
but then
the smoke cleared a little bit
and then people you know kind of got on
for the first time people were educated
for the first time people had access to
basic
human
necessities and ship
sit
it depends on who you were
uhuhhuh
calling
the federal reserve does socialism is an insult
guys stop being fucking trigger i'm talking to people from pol
guys are such bad you guys cock blocking
me
and you have like bad optics i don't wt to fucking doing
ok
woman rights in communist poland yet
i found this from fortune you make sense so far go ahead is with thoughts
thank you bro s i you from fortchan are so much more polite
so much more even when they're
saying
h things i disagree with
the people from lefty poole hate me so much more dude
lefty pool nerds see so much when they watch the stream
and even people from porchs
fortune treatment with respect
even though believe it or not dde i'm not the one who shared it there
it was a fucking but her guy from lefty pool
who thinks they were going to bring us down
someone go tell that guy from leftypole his plan failed
we had public sing povate communism
i know but
still do
is is the american liberalism really better than communism i'm not sure
start the tielectics lecture already
all right fine
i'm
ok when to started
now we're in s the dialectics thing
not
okay
first
things first
first things first
yeh it's calm down and start shitting on fast yeah
well guys in the chat you take over from me
if more people come and they're asking why did you shareus and shit
just tell them the story tell them a butt herd left people guy shared us
and that's why we've been we were sharped
what the fulk is multipolarity anglo saxon modernism that sounds like fuck whitey to me
it's not fuck white you do
well who's whity you know
there's also continental europe
france and germany
and there's eastern europe and there's russia
and you know
sort of like
i don't know
don't tell you
ok
that's not this
let's start this
is going tough
want to start it now
let me ok what i wanted to say in the beginning of stream
let me preface this by saying
god i came in to shit all over you but although you obviously don't know much about posh history
your common section is just
but although you don't know much
for history no problese i'm sure topic to people
but your common section is just retarded
i will just be patient you know just be patient
try to talk yeah yeah dude i
we
you know they i have to i want i promiseed i'll do this educational stream
about dialectics
that's why i'm kind of in a rushes get right into this
you know what otherwise
wow we're going to itighty views today it's focking crazy all time im
whoever shever was trying to strike us by sharing us around
for chan and shit
literally is going to like
they're going to break our all time high end ews
terms of how many people are watching
so that's crazy that but her guy from lefty pool
do
what a failure
ok sorry i'm going right into this
prefacing this
prefacing this
i did not have time to really prepare for this stream besides thinking about a few things
i
besides thinking about a few things about what i wanted to say
but the reason for that is that right now i'm in law school
so there's that
i don't have a lot of free time
the other thing though
is that i don't want you guys to overthink this
i want this to be a chill stream i don't want you guys and most the time when you talk about education
people are going to be intimidated
peop were going to be like
would this is the authority do it's not like that i'm not going to speak from an authoritative place
where i'm going to say
you have to believe i'm not going to give you definitions and axioms and
all the empirical statistics and i have focken should like lost
i'm going to work with you the chad
and i want you guys to bear with me and i want you guys to be brutally honest about whether any of this makes sense
to you
because that's my goal is to make it make sense
and
what we're going to do here
is yeah fucking crazy d we
we're hitting eighty you are just fucking and saying
what we want to do here is basically
ok brian i'm going to answer this last question and then i got to get into this educational stream that i that was planned before ok
what is multipolarity
ok
multipularity
multipolarity means
that america
america is no longer
boss this is like dodgin said
you are not boss
so you've got china rising you've got russia rising you got brazil rising
you've got all sorts of cut different countries
that are becoming pollir polar centers in the world it's no longer just america in charge
ok
how is anglo saxon not md moderism not fuck whitey
you just said it wasn't
what depends on what you mean by white
ok if you mean if you mean anglo saxon
the supremacy
then i guess fuck whitey right
but i'm pretty sure most
europeans
there's there's more to europe than just
anglo saxon
modernity and i think the german conservative revolution thinkers of the one nine hundred twenty s and thirties
would kind of agree with what i'm saying
about that woll
you know
and yet
so
that that's that
you know i don't want to
we actually are going to continue this angle theme in the dialectics thing so maybe stay tune
and
yeah
yeah it's 's a go t's g right into this ok
the first thing i wanted to do
was
preface this by saying
i want to
put a disclaimer
disclaim right
because this is something i noticed with our last educational stream and it' is something i noticed with all of the attempts we make to introduce new concepts and new ideas to you guys
re these present old concepts in new ways
i'm going to add a disclaimer
disclaimer
right
and what are we going to say
we're going to say
disclaim
the following stream
is going to
going to present
dialectics in a way
that you will not be immediately
familiar with that means we are not
not going to virtue
signal any of the phrases talking points
were things
you've heard about what dialectics is in the past
we're going to start from scratch based on simple common sense
and hopefully relate
what we arrive at to some of the things
your
you are familiar with
we want to present
something old
in a new
any
brand new way
putting it in new words in order to clarify many confusions and dogmas that now prevail
regarded
concept
this is our disclaimer
yeah this is our disclaimer
okay
so i want to give you guys this
basically
you're not going to be familiar with
how this is something i notice
many people are looking for us
to hit
tick boxes
of talking points they've heard before
because they don't actually want to learn anything new
they want to test us and see if we're familiar with the things they're familiar
well you're just going to have to take my word at the fact that i am
fully familiar with all the shit
that you're familiar with
when it comes to dialect
i just think
they're very vague and confusing and leading to a lot of errors and opportunism
so i want to present it in a new way
o from scratch
completely bypassing all of that
if you can do the work of thinking you'll see how it's all related
you'll see
how this is related to what lennin said and what mark said and what angles directly said
but i'm not going to repeat you phrases and sentences
you know mantras and all sorts of
textualistic talking
point
just to kind of confirm and
scratch that itch you might have for me to just
speak from this legitimate
you know official and orthodox perspective
and the and the bible said it so you know it's not where i'm in forred is coming from whatsoever
you're just going to have to get over that
i'm also going to make another disclaimer
another disclaimer
how you
how
you
what you take away from this stream is going to be entirely
up to you
no matter what we say or how we say it
to
people
are
are going to try and say it is completely
meaningless bullshit that makes no sense whatsoever
and
is all
t midly the equival
but went to saying
notough
thingk at all
i can't help
i can't
control this i can't do anything
anything to stop
people from making
from making
those claims
so it is ultimately up to you the viewer to decide whether
a meaning is being communicated here or not
i am not going to
i'm not going to
try and convince you that i'm
a human being
trying
to communicate something meaningful for a reason
you either accept this assumption or don't
your choice
okay
thess and the thess
synthesis dude
set up
thatbsoally the opposite of what we're going to fo
okay
yeah
alright
all right
so
now we're going to have the intro to dialect
speak
now
believe it or not
i was going to make a video
in the beginning
addressing this issue of language
what it was of agan cast there seems to be a problem when it comes to language there seems to be a problem
when it comes to the use of language
a
disc
discored
ok
jesus fucking cries
guy will leave me the fuck alon
i sorry
dialectics
ok
for discikes from the massad
agent yet
okay
i was going to make a ten minute video
but i decided not to
and i was going to make this about this issue of language
whenever i seem for example the tweet
the tweet i made about
i don't want to bring it up i want to like rehash all this shit
but i basically said something about the difference between
these empiricism kind of things in a dialectic approach
and i said most of the time
when people on the internet for example or in on you tube and all that shit
when they're asking for empirical evidence
the reason isn't because they're curious about
sensory sensory phenomena they're unfamiliar with
but they want some type of idle guarantee of truth
what is an idle guarantee of truth
what did i mean by
well over on left the pool a very smart guy decided to just say that i was speaking nonsense
why
because the phrase idle guarantee of truth
was a new combination of words he wasn't familiar with
and according to him
the only type of words or phrases you can say are virtue signaling talking points someone else already said
but i find this approach to what a concept is
radically unfamiliar
radically alien
forn
to me
i have an active understanding of languag
the main thing the main essence is trying to convey a meaning the meaning is what is essential
to me
the form in which the meaning
is instantiated comes second
the meaning is primary
so using strings of words in ways you're unfamiliar with
in order to convey the deeper meaning to me is more important
theen using straings of words in ways you're already familiar with
in order to virtue signal about
conveyances of meaning
you're familiar with in the past
ca
oh you demank that things i appreciate
appreciate your soldiering doing all the work
doing this kind of work out here
but anyway
i was going to make it about language because it kind of
had me start thinking returning to some things i've thought about many years ago but haven't returned to
and which is be that the relationship the english language has
to the conveyance of meaning
is i think very unique
and very bizarre compared to every other language that i've ever encountered in the world especially as someone who is moderately
i
an airbig speed
not completely hundred percent fluently
i have a guest
lay
i was born
i grew up
um
to me
the english language
unlike other languages
does not rest
upon
well any type of vernacular english is going to be a different story
black vernacular english is similar to the rest of the languages of the world
southern united states vernacular english
similar to the rest of the world
but when it comes to east coast or west coast
formal and official english
the one that's relevant for intellectual discourse and academic discourse
and all that kind of stuff
english seems unique
in each attempt
to pret preemptitively premise
the meaning it attempts to convey
in the very form of the word
and that seems self evidce in every language you that no
every other language
rests upon something called
common sense a common sense of your kind
some
why is that
because a word
what is the meaning of a word
what is the meaning of a word
the meaning of a word
is ultimately
not simply reducible to a string of other words
a meaning of a word is going to conjure associations
that are based on your sense and i'm going to clarify what i mean by sense
later
but the meaning of a word
conjures up a string of unconscious association
unwritten and unspeakable associations
that are ultimately rooted in your common sense
you're insect
this sense
is individual and particular
and and nonuniversal
non universal
what does that mean it means let's say'm speaking
polish there's a polish guy here right i'm in the polish countryside
i
the there's going to be the meaning of word
the meaning of a word in polish
is not going to be reducible to any kind of universal definition
there's some meanings of words that only other polish people are going to be able to understand
why is that
because
despite that everyone individually is different
and everyone individually
has different associations and meanings of words unconsciously based on their experiences and based on their background
the fact of the matter is that a nation
or a community or a local
tradition of some kind
for example
is based on a dialogue in a dialectic
of establishing by unwritten and unconscious means
common sense and common meaning
common meaning
it's like
all fu hold on sorry
on
ok
sorry what
common meaning and common sense
what this means
effectively
is that
this sight of meaning
must take into account what is unwritten
not just what it's written
but what's unwritten
what's unwritten
it's like how they say
you're either in the no or you're not in the
right
you either get it or you don't get it
when it comes to vernaculars
when it comes to languages
spoken in their everyday use
that's the case yeather get it or you don't
you get what it means or you don't
and i think
officially and medically speaking
some people say that people who have autism
have a really hard time
understanding unwritten and on
spoken meaning
and unconscious meaning
lock on had the very controversial view
that autistic people don't have it cononscious
for that reason
i
so i don't mean to offend people with the whole anglo autism box shit but
you know i'm not really that nice of a guy and it is what it is and
sorry
h i want to offend people
but that's what we're dealing with here oka
so
what does this have to do with dialectics
wellk one other thing
i just mentioned it's also based in sense
english
english
is unique in the fact
that it attempts to impose
a universal common sense preemptively
whereas other language couldn't convey meaning
and must accept
in good faith
that other people will just get it
english tries
to define the meaning preemptively
and contain the meaning in the word
against the void not against the determinate addressy
such as the person in your community
such as your countrymen
such as the people in your nation or in your community or in your localit or a definite other person
which requires
a dialectic of mutual engagement in the construction of mutual meaning
english rather arrogantly says
that
the meaning is already preemptitively defined and can be imposed universally
such that
to say a certain string of words
doesn't actually require determined address c
the word itself self contains
the meaning
quat the void
quae even something like
voic
it is meaningful even quad the void
how did have the english come to justify that
in this sense english is the first
modern language
the reason is because for them
they have reduced the deeper sense of words
the deeper unspeakable sense of words
to the empirical sects
to the empirical sense
to the literal
object
reducible to the five senses touch smell sight hearing
this is all you have to go on in the english language
empirical truth
plus
some kind of pre written
definition
these two things
for the for the english language supposedly
exhaust
the exhaust meaning
an analytic figure called rudolph carnap
critique tied to g precisely on these grounds
for him
empirical truth
and
discreet
predefined
definition
encompass and define the whole of human meaning the whole of human meaning can be reduced to
but most people
in the world
who do not have english as a secondary language
a
have as their primary sphere of communication
a somewhat criminal
a criminal language
they have a language which they know
can never be made
anunciable
and i
and directly apparent in the english language and they know that
if you're a secondary english speaker you know what i'm talking about
there's something subversive
there's something i
almost criminal
and off the books
about speaking in a non english
language
within a formal english setting
because engliand english has become
a global language
but the reason it's the global language
is because english is also a technical paradix
english is also a technical
there
i
it's what i mean by that is that english as the first modern language
doesn't have as its primary object
human conveyance of meaning
case
but some type of relation
to the inhuman
strange
let's just say technical
forces of production
that's why the english language
is so fick
in predefined
it's
peg
to a predefined
empirically air tight and absolutely
scientifically certain meaning
because this scientific certainty is operative
in modern technology
for example
born
formalistic modern
any
and modern form in general legal whatever
matt jane not really
well
poland is not based
well it depends on the context maybe within poland
it isn't the case because everyone just speaks polan
pull in that anyway
but i guarantee you if you're an immigrant in the united states
you're living in a polish community
you know your native polish language is going to feel criminal
innocence
with french there's a lot of context words a change meaning english
is really is more predefined with word
exactly
exact
youlook like baked alaska
know the
that is
it's like a food right
ok anyway
okay
why am i talking about language what does that have to do with dialect
well
etymologically
i don't know if i'm pronouncing it right etymologically
dialectics
dialectics
just responding to chat
oh
dialectics
i
sorry
dialectics
is
has its roots
in
dialogue
discourse debate
some type of
back and forth
conversation
sorry i just got a
i got a message on
witter
by
ing g
going to check out a thread
ok maybe i'll take it out
okay sorry about that detracting
my bengali is a heritage language speaker is not the same as
bengali bengali
interesting okay this is what dialectics mean though
i hope it sounds like that for you guys right doesn't sound like this
dialectic
they say for example
there's a local dialect
right you know what that means
dialect
and it's a language
it's a way in which things are spoken a local dialect
some kind of dialect
a variant
of a length
a formal language of some kind
dialectics etymologically has its roots in
dialectics discourse debate some other type of back and forth
conversation
ok
well let's start getting visual
and
do we pick on poor sage
do we pick on poorsage here
i'm not sure
here we have poor say
in ancient greece or something classical philosophy
and
i'm being very generous for how i'm drawing him
sage
speaks
and
another person
response
i know this is all really simplistics taking too much time to illustrate a very simplisty
point
but maybe some people like to see it vision
someone else
response
right
here
a dialectic
is initiated
why
why is something like a dialectic initiated
by this
by this encounter
right here
well let's
ignore
this
debator here
let's delete him
here's the question
who is the address
who is the address s
of sage's speech
this is a big miss
who is the addressy
of sages speech
when you speak
you convey meaning
with intention
you're trying to convey something meaningful to
ultimately to something
otherwise why speak
right
isn't there always a reason why you're going to expend effort
to speak
i
to say something
the question is
who is the address
of
some person speak
who is the address
well
this question mark
is always going to
result
in an address s
of some kind
who's going to give you knowledge
who's going to tell you something
that you didn't know
before
you
enunciated
before you engage
in the speech
you got a low everyone's leaving now
sorry red and don'tan s you later
my guys
y guys
i guess only enlight and w will
this okay
no whenever it doesn't matter who the addressy of speech is
sayus speech is
what every address see is going to have in common
otherwise there is no reason for any dialogue whatsoever is ultimately
this other
let's just call them the other
this other
is always going to have in common
the fact
that the other
is expected
to return to you
return to you
something that could not have premised
this speech
itself
no this is not from norm johms
ok
so
if it's a determinant other
there is no reason to speak to them
unless
and we're speaking what a very abstract
philosophical dialogue whatever
there's no reason to speak to someone unless you can
have the assumption
they're going to tell you something
that could not have premised
your speech
in relation to them
first
otherwise
otherwise
speech
is not communicative
it is not a dialogue
otherwise
otherwise
it's not a dialogue
but a form of domination
but a form of domination
if
you are absolutely certain
about the content of your speech
irrespective
of to whom it may be addressed
your goal is not
to receive something from the other
which could not have premised your speech
your goal is some kind of
domination
not just giving orders you can even be an s o s come please help me
but you're ultimately
you're ultimately exacting a result
you're trying to exact
a result
some kind
maybe i should not say domination i should say order
it's a it's a
it's order
right
it's an order
no i don't want to see what you
and
you keep using words without defining them
premised your speech what does that mean
ok g u n you linux
chill the fuck out
ok chill the fock out
premised your speech means
if it's a dialogue of some kind
then
whatever it is the other is going to return to you
could not be something that preemptively
premised the reasoning and the rationale
in your own head
and also the objective material causal reason
as to why you said it
they're going to give you a result
that is not only unexpected
but could not possibly have been premised in the original speech
you say a string of words you convey a meaning and they're going to tell you something
that in a sense surprises
that's what i mean
this sounds dumb to be honest
just trying to begin somewhere simple
isn't easy
thm
ok you can't use the word
in the definition
what are you talking about
what are you talking about g and you
like what do you mean you can't use the word in the what does that mean
explain to me what that means
explain to me what that means
ignore chat
and i want to help this guy
he's coming he's asking for help
what does he mean
the sage wants a fucking surprise
then why speak why engage in a dialogue of any kind
why why speak at all why speak at all
the question
why speak it all
so a premise that is not part of your argument
not a part of is doesn't go into your speech it's not going into the input
that rea that leads to the output of your speech
what i'm trying to say
no being shed the fock
people enjoying themselves are quiet
thanks
ok
basically what i'm trying to get at
this premis your speech mean
it was not a premise in your original argument no you're overthinking it
you're over i'm not saying a logical premise in your original argument i mean it objectively did not premise
the reasoning the cause the rationale
behind your speech
it did not objectively premise
your speech it was not part of the input that gave rise to your speech
in the first
game
i
has first s and then
oka ginzi
i get it
okay
jesus
premises a part of an argument premise conclusion
so much mean prochally
i didn't mention a fucking argument though but even then i disagreed
but even then i didn't say anything about an argument
ok i didn't say anything about an argu
sorry i'm sorry for getting mad i'm going to catch up with the chat ok sorry
let's delete all this
and
go back
okay
so what am i trying to get at
what am i trying to get into
i'm trying to establish
in the form of a dialogue let's say a socratic dialogue
where you guys not ae acradic a sign not a secratic
that's an example of one but
blatonic dialogue
plato was one athor
the way in which he develops his philosophy
plato
is that he has one guy
side
he has one guy
here
sound
copy that
pace that he has one guy
lip
was on
he is one guy
plato
right
plato is right here
he's the author one author
ok
he in
he's using both of these as his puppets right for his dialogue
why is he doing this
because plato
is developing his philosophy his dialectic
by having one guy say something right one guy's going to say some shit
and then another guy's going to say probably he's going to respond or he's going to say the exact opposite thing
through this plato recognizes
there is some kind of
outcome constructive out
why is that
why can't it just be a monologue of one guy talking
why is there necessarily an other
why is it necessary that for plato for example
could be anyone
there is necessarily an other who must say the opposite thing or respond
or respond
because
because
what's like
because
because
if it was just a monologue
has
search it spamming
i just
oky
sorry
then the hope you didn't expect anything special i mean your fused apply in anymore
in
to various programs
del what are you talking about
i think both views are too extreme so i don't discuss
them i didn't say that i thoundt think you're talking about
right you're not talking about me
sorry
okay
the reason it's not just a monologue
reiz the suckers didn't wrte
ok fine ginji i'll just focus on this
the reason it's not a monologue only a monologue and he needs
another person to say the opposite thing
to get it going
is because
for him
another person
let's say this guy
is giving embodiment
giving
giving expression
embodying
the necessary
ground of otherness
that
through a sity through which or for which or
upon
which
the truth
or essence
of the original
claim
can be clarified
ok this is a really big paragraph
truth were the essence of the original claim
can be clarified
when i say something
when i say something
or the person giving a monologue says something
ok
what up sky lethal
when you speak or say something
you don't necessarily know
what it is you are saying
remember what i said about anglo language
right
with anglo language
you are already certain as to the meaning
of what you're saying
here
here
your speech is addressed
to some kind of
absence some kind of emptiness
you speak something into existence
because you find it necessary to express some
but you don't know
what that something actually is
another person
who's initiating a dialogue or dialectue
for example
will give expression and embody
the ground of otherness
upon which
what you are trying to say
can actually be
revieal
because
and why is this
because
sid
at this
because
because
because
the
the ground that gives rise to the necessity
and even possibility of speech
cannot possibly be contained in the speech itself
this ground
right here
this is the ground of otherness i'm talking ab
this is the ground of
otherness
i am referring to
it is necessarily
outside of you somehow
it is other than you
right
try to explain the inadequaciy of an language in was not you could perfectly you have perfectly fine
um
it's just people are confused about what you mean when you use the
the problem
okay
this is the ground of otherness
that i'm referring to
the very ground that give rise to the necessity
and even possibility of speech
plato
for example
for example
gives expression
to this otherness
in the form of
a nother
first
ok
form of another person
alright
okay
what if i just established right now
i've established
maybe and this is not the best way to approach it
keep in mind i didn't have time to prepare for this in the law schooll bear with me
try to work with you guys
i started this out
with sage or someone
speaking
speaking
what have i done here though
i've created a contrast of some kind
you have a person
with an output
for example
out
you have an output
some kind
and then
you have another
have another
so i'm not going to
going to do this
and then you have
some type of otherness
that reveals the truth
review of the truth
of the input
the input
truth
i' say truth in' want to say s
will reveal the truth
of the input
when you speak of something else directing your speech something in you ok let's not get there outyt
will reveal the truth of the in
some other
some type of other
other
some type of other
he doesn't know
because
why is this
why
because
because
because
he doesn't
no
because he doesn't know
the input
because he cannot
contain
the input
that premises his speech
in the
output
he cannot
i need to make this small
s it's
cannot contain the input that premises his speech
in the output
at least so far as he know
not
he's so far as he knows
fork man i wanted to make it small okay
and i know this is shitty and complicated but this is he
see this he cannot contain the input that premises his speech
in the output as far as he
nos
this other
is going to reveal to him something
that
that could not
as far as he knows
premise
his output
that's why he speaks an output in order to discern
what he himself is trying to say
can we get some background music
turning on
like a university lecture
and this is so hard
so haart
let's let's this
world is back and know this is not a good start i n not i'm not doing a really good job here
but
let's just roll this back a little bit
let's ust roll this back a bit and i want to start
with something maybe you're
more familiar
let's think
let's roll this back
ok let's roll this back
sorry i'm not doing a best job
let's roll this back
to metaphysical dualism
right
metaphysical
dualism
metaphysical dual
okay
now this is something you guys are probably familiar with right
in metaphysical dualism
cross the history of humanity
cross the history of humanity
you've got what
you've got this union unan thing
going on
you guys probably
are familiar with
fuck me man i can't stand this
ms p
bullship
that
sorry
yet
this thing going on
and then just because i'm going to be af
jesus
that you go
i
it
what
you got this
and then you've got
something you probably
haven't heard of manykiani ism
nethianism
you got ggnosticism
you've got all sorts of dualisms
o
you're right it's diff
i know what we're going to get through this truss we're going to get through
i get it somewhat i'm ted don't worry don't worry about he going look on right now
i don't
i'm going to try i'm trying to make this as simple as possible but that's why it's so hard
can you get a fucking powerpoint make this beforehand
damnl the promise i can'
like i just got out a class before i
did the stream
and i have wrote a paper yesterday
tuesday so i'm bogged down with law school right now
until i can escape law school
i'm not going to
we'm going to try to make i'm going to try to work on the imperialism one maybe a week ahead of
slowly add to it and work
p
but
yeah dude
s
psychanalism
for second
spent learning it's five ten spend
writing i hope so u
okay
yeah very true
okay
there's metaphysical dualism you're probably familiar with this right there's yin and yang monikanism gnosticism
and there's all sorts of dualities you're going to find across history and various mythologies
and all that kind of bullshit you're going to find
that the world is being represented in opposites right
being the world the universe
whatever
is represented
in the form
opposite
i hope you guys are familiar
right
in the form of opposite
o
the way most people interpret this
the way most people
interpret this
is to
metaphysically positive
entities
that contradict one and another
ok
for example
here
i want to ask you the chapter question
no i'm not going to start with value
has i guys i want to ask oh fuck
alexander just remind me
fouht
this is this is the most important
anchor point
for all of this
this one right here
all the gods
this is the most important one
sexual difference
man woman masculine feminine
this is the primary
means by which
ah
metaphysical dualism
is uh
is given expression in relation
set some kind of sexual
can beliave i just forgot
see how folkinghuf this is for me
yup so okay
i want to begin here
right here
radio
most people i want to ask you the ch at the question
why is to
so privileged
across the history of human civilization
and
in general why is there metaphysical dualism
now
in most
in today's universities
you have
a a
two
you have a
an attack against binary logic
binary lodge
bye
favoring
favoring pure multiplicity and pure diversity
instead
because for them
because for them
the binary is just
one
is the binary for them is just one plus one
so they asked a simple question
why must there be one plus one
when we can have one plus one plus one plus one plus one
why one why not two why i sorry why two why not three why not four why not five
why not six for example
this is the basic and then you're going to see this kind of
logic expressed in other places even in physics
what do you have you have a
many worlds theories
and then analytical philosophy you have another type of many world
a oll there's many possible languages in many possible worlds and many possible whatever
you know it's like it's this
privileging of
multiplicity
right
clear privileging of multiplicity
over bindary
over bind
one second
okay
s
but the fok is wrong with this camera
back
back
on
no forgive but you i don't mean to like b you
okay
or delos i don't mean to like that
just in a commonsensical way you know i want to
have the least barrier entry
to this
right
okay
least spirit entruy possible
everyone is probably familiar with this
all of you are probably familiar with this
can i get a one in the chat if you're familiar with metaphysical dualism
you heard of the in yan
you know about
the way in which opposites
are used
to give expression as the most primordial state of being
you know there's
two different
two opposites that define
being right
and then the wld man women
binary logic
one of the chat if you gys understand this
so far
because i can i can get into it a little more
and give you more examples in illustrate more example
everyone gets it
that's
awesome
everyone seems to understand
okay great great great goat great got it
ok thank you we have to dwell more on this
okay
now i want to focus your attention now
on this little box and we're going to save this box
when we while we delete everything else
and we're going to
going to save this box
the way most people interpret metaphysical dualism
is two positive entities that contradict each other
so you got a one
ok sorry going to do
you've got
one
i
plus
one
well that is arbitrary isn't it
why not three
why not
four why not five
why too
why too
why too
well i'll tell you what
this is a big miss
this is a big misunderstanding
of both metaphysical
both
sorry
there
both
the origin of
why metaphysical dualism is so prevalent
and why
a and
what
the unity of opposites
relevant to dialectics is
ok
this is a big misunderstanding
um
yeah the mind body difference daniel that's a really big one
my mind body dualism is
one you guys are probably familiar with as well and that's also just sext engendered right body is female and mind is masculine
you got the logos and you have sophia
you have all sorts of different
that's gnosticism and all that kind of stuff
the mind body one
is i think
i think it's
very prevalent across the stree of humanity but it's given
fullest expression i think
through gnosticism and then
gnosticism culminating in de cart
and that's what's critiqued as binary logic
the universe
and so on
that
but this is what i want to focus your attention on
it is not
that metaphysical dualism
is arising out of an arbitrary imposition
of two just privileging two ones
because in that case
in that case
why not three why not four why not five why not six
yeah base where suberz was another one
which is also why
in most ways people use base for superstructure it's un dialect
i me
i'll explain that more later
but
let's
get rid of this
here's what we need to keep in mind
mister
dialectics
it always begins with one
dialectics is actually monotheistic
it so controversial on the shit i'm going to say
sorry
always begins with one
maybe i should
deemphasise this a little bit so as to not confuse you guys
but i'll clarify what i mean by it
but i want to emphasize that
dialectics it always begins with one
there is always a striving
and in orientation
to what is ultimately
one
seeing
one
see
seeing
t
too
to is merely
the most initial
the most initial
primordial
and immediate
expression given to a difference that is
that
experience
proper to
one
you've got one thing first
you've got one thing
first
you understand
you've got one thing first
towo merely is the most initial
expression given to the fact
that
here's where i'm going to say
the form
subtantiation
and
box
f you will
if you will
we give to oneness
will always necessarily enter into contradiction with its real cont
actual and real content
there is some kind of difference
metaphysical dualism
is never actually an arbitrary unity of two ones
it's always trying to give expression to this
primorial distinction if you will
between simple distinction
between no
guys this is another issue we're going to have with these education stream
is that you're looking for the
you're looking for
who i'm referencing and you're looking for
which authority this is citing
but i am just trying to get you guys to think about this independent
you know don't worry about
how i'm arriving
don't worry about who's the background
i'm not talking about me i'm not talking about bedu right now
i'm not talking about jk right now
ok let's think actively
instead
let's just think actively
right let's try to think of it independently
so it is like multiple conflicting dedities being merged into one super
i don't know how you're
you're drawing the
i don know how youre drawing
i just said
you begin with one
ok
now
the multiple
it' is a different story right now but you begin with one
when you're concerned with dialectics in the abstract
always because the only reason there's a unity of opposites
the only reason you privilege opposites
because you're dealing with one
and its otherness
one and its other names
its own otherness
this other ness is that one
you understand
this otherness
proper to the one
is the one
is strange from itself
somehow
the form and the content
for example
being what is so funny
and you you being what is so funny what's so funny
i'm trying really hard
ok
what's so funny tell me what's so funny
is this like the essence of something and the appearingce
sure that's another way of putting
the essence in the appearance
isn't dragging
your use of trigger words
very
okay
one and it's otherness yes that's how you should put it
one and its otherns
one and its others
ok
now why do we begin with one
why does one begin with one
i just said it
i just said why
because
why begin with one
because one begins with one
one person begins
side one
thinker
subject individual
the mind begins with one
so once you put something into a box it's no longer reality it's the science about it's no longer what's really happening
the model
no don't worry about that
ok
i'll get to what the box is
no way of putting that is the opposite discloses something about the one
yes
yes
pin that comment
yes
very true
very much what i'm trying to get at
begins with one
we are instand sheated in a determinant
singular way
terminated
singular way
fuck i lost the textbox i can't ad
singular way
singular way
our object
is always one
one
s always one
fok this textbox man
god fucking damn pain
in so far as
our speech
our thoughts
are mine
etcetera
etcetera
is determint
and itself singular
what up kangaroo what's up
in mathematical optimization theory duality is the principle that
optimization problems may be viewed from
either of two perspectives the primal problem of the dual problem
the one defines the opposite
i'm not that familiar with that
i
gotta go what se later ageent chaos
i
okay
why begin with one because one
is determin it singular way
our object is always one insaviars our speech our thoughts our mind is determinate and itself
singular
in a sense ontology
is mano fiust
itself
when we ask what is being
we're asking what is something
what is a something that something is ultimately
implied as one something one being
one being right
being itself
confronts us as one thing
and even when we divide it into several things
that's only in so far
as thouseh several things
is those several things
those several things
bear witness to the fact
that there cannot just be one
there's multiple
because there cannot
just be one
for example
oh
german is the more
voice in reality english
okay
and
i want to clarify this about metaphysical dualism
the difference between masculine and feminine
in contrast to what they teach you in the american universities
for example
there's no transforbia
on my part i'm not like paul cock shot or whatever
but i'm going to just say this
because anyone who's saying otherwise is lying
this difference between
metaphysical dualism between masculine and feminine
is giving rise
is the very expression for example of a dialectic between form and content
between
night and day
for example
darkness and light
body in mind
on
these distinctions are proper to every human civilization
now
there
all human other civilizations do have
a sense of multiplicity and so on
but
this multiplicity
is ultimately
i
is ultimately
coming from
branching out
from this original
and
man vers woman is in dialect
ok but you know what i mean
gentle
you know what i mean i mean masculine
how much i need to smoke to understand this
i don't
i
metaphysical dualism is trying to give expression to one thing
ultimately one thing which is being
it is not an arbitrary
privileging
to
for no reason
it is trying to give expression to one thing
being
being itself
okay
so
who is our original one
we began
initially
with someone
trying to
one person with one
y
okay
otherness is negative
i'm not exactly sure of that
hold on i'm getting some d m s and tweets
shit
sorry
using what
okay
sorry
sorry okay
bro just read hayel easy
okay
we're back
we began with one person speaking to one
address
but there's other ways
to
to situate the contrast
between
the basic contrast that initiates a dialect
what is ok let me
go back a little bit and just say
we can now see
we should now be able to understand very simply that a dialectic
is some kind of interaction some kind of encounter
between two opposites
a one and its other
the object
of dialectic
unifies them both
as ultimately
one
the
what are other examples of this encounter between
um
some type of one
a subject
so i'm talking au as sub
some type of one and it's an other nis
ok
for example
for example
we have
a person
and their address se in this case
maybe this is a crazy person
their addresse in this case
isn't
another person
but his nature
nature
nature for example
and
nature for example means what
it means
same thing
has another vegan in the shat
you got it
you if you hear my views on animal rights you'll stop you'r unsubscribe
not sure if you want
um
if you're a vegan and you hear my word
and you hear my views on animal rights you are going to
decribe
sand
promise you that
i
speaking with one addressy
this
that' sure this is the best example i
okay
this is another example
this is another example of anotherness
another example
of others right here
another example of otherness
ah
okay
this is another example
nature
guys by the way if you're not following
say something in the chat
any of this sounds arbitrary and doesn't isn't clicking
ah
isn't
clicking light bulbs and just kind of making sense of things just say so and i'll try to change my p
like i said i need feedback i need know where you guys are
right
because the shit is not easy
i
another example otherness is nature itself
ok
now
here's something else i want to say
i know this kind of schitzoism all over the place
in a way
in a way dialectic
you
has been the default for the entire
entire history of humanity
for the entire history of humanity there is
always a sense of the unspeakable
sublime
m
said to the otherness a conditions
that conditions the possibility of
uh meaning
speech reason
sir
okay
yuh
but
only after anglo saxon modernity and
saxon medith
does the
dialectic
of being become foreclosed
foreclosed
only here is there a striving to arrive at
what
at one this
at the object
in e
as reducible to one form
and premised by one
universal
self subsistence
and absolutely self search and for
why is that
why is this
not just like what is the reasoning behind me saying this but why did it actually happen in reality
no i don't get why the opposite doesn't do the same thing for the one
not not
the opposite
what a thing is
not
discloses something positively
because
within the standpoint
of a single person a single subject a single speaker or single s
thinker
mm
what
you are
what your being is for example
is not known to you
is only revealed to you by means of the other
the other is the site at which what you are
can be revealed
to you
why do you guys think people go on the internet
and seek attention
because we don't know what we are
fundament
we search for other people
to
to reveal what we ourselves are
that's why we go on the internet
and we type on lefty poole
for example
even though we're anonymous
because we want to type something and we want to see how people are going to respond to it
and
that's going to reveal to us what we are
because we don't know what we are
should i be thinking in terms of electroardes but no don't worry about that that's way too metaphysic
don't worry about
that kind of stuff
but i'm already veel to myself
that is my ego but what is your ego
for example what is the content of ego
and in terms of theky and thinking you just equated angle with the process of foreclosure which is to say psychos
gentle g ge
i'm doing it intentionally
according to lacon
normal
experience of normal reality
which i interpret as
experience of
modern normal life
does result
from
foreclosre is a primordial form of
coast
yes
i know that
and i say that intentionally
there's also heidegger's foreclosure of being
think which is what i'm aiming at a little bit more the foreclosure of being
itself
the question of being being itself becomes
foreclosed and we only can speak now of
that particular being
being as such becomes foreclose to us as something that reveals itself in a novel
and the unique were
ah
okay
okay
to proceed now
to proceed now
is it is theres a more refined version of taoism
well i would argue that the world's religions in general have this as their object
not the other way around
it's not that i'm trying to reproduce
world religions in the past i think these world religions have this
i
contradiction
defining being itself as there are
including tism which is more explicit about that but also every other religion including
ones that are not
unnecessarily dualistic metaphysical
you should explain what foreclosed means
foreclose in the sense of the
the ceiling off
ceiling off
closing off
right
ceiling off
ceiling off
a
closing of
h okay
okay
oh
right
so
we can accept
we can recognize
recognize
a simple
a simple difference
proper to oneness
something and it's other
form and content
i think is and it's actual content
form some thing is
and its actual content
for exact
but what makes
but
how does it come to pass that the object of dialectic is itself revealed as one thing one
site
one uh disclosure of me
ok this is the
topic
question
that i want us to
focus our attention on
i have nott psychosis in the past this mean i'm
wee closed
well
that's why i don't want to talk about lek on
you know
people over
is interpreted in a psychiatric way
and over identify with
why are you on the infrared stream for example interesting
question alexander is going with the deep question okay
let's focus our attention on this
we can recognize a simple difference proper to ones something
and its other
the form of what something is and its actual cont
but how does it come to pass that the object of
dialectic is itself revealed as one thing
one disclosure of being
well
why don't we relate this to this issue of socialism
why are most people socialists
what does socialism mean for example
for most people
it means
here i am
here i am
for example
this is a contradiction isn't it
i'm here i'm sad
and
shey world
right isn't that the case shitdy bad world
everything sucks
and here i am
and i'm sad
about this
ok
is this a contradiction
isn't this
what we're talking about
when we're talking about bread to
and we're talking about the entire aesthetic of socialists in twenty twenty one
doesn't this ltimately though
um
doesn't this ultimately
imply a type of arrogance
isn't this also kind of arrogant
higgle
a guy you're probably a little familiar with the name
he referred to this aesthetic
as the aesthetic of a romant
the romantic
a or the let's say the romantic
is an aesthetic
of the unhappy consciousness
the unhappy consciousness
according to hagel
is an initial encounter with the fact
that
move this year
an issue
initial encounter
with the fact
that the inner cef
andrs
radically enters
into contradiction with the outer world
being unable to
being unable to find
full expression and
this is the most important
so what does the socialist do and say
socialists say this is a shitty world
and how do they arrive at the conclusion that a chity world
because the world does not reflect
what they what is within them
the world does not reflect
the striving in their inner striving to be realized
in the world
instead they're confronted with a contradiction
and they're confronted with
uh imperfection or whatever right
yes gentle gin gy
exactly it's the beautiful soul we're talking about
ok
the socialist says
the solution to this
is to change the world
solution to this
the world must be
itself be changed
so what is going to happen now am i going to be jordan peterson and say no you have to change
mm
clean your own bedroom
for you
clean your own bedroom before you want to change the world buckle
maybe you just got to change
your outlook
but
although
i'm not going to get into jordan peterson
time
jigle
arrives at something that superficially
might sound a little similar to this
jordan peterson
for hagel
the problem with
this socialist right here
who bases their entire aesthetic and their identity upon the fact
upon this initial encounter with a contradiction
initial content
contradiction
i
hagel says
what
this person cannot see is how
this contradiction
sorry this looks so bad
this contradiction
from here on out
every line you see like a dash like this this is a contradiction
right
this is the difference itself the contradiction
for hagel
for hagel
is actually proper
proper to the very object
the world
itself
what does that mean
what does that mean
it means this
the anglo socialists you are familiar with on bread tub and on youtube
they are this guy
they think this is a shitty world
and the goal is to change the world and that sense not in marx the sense but in their sense right
special sense
they're elevated above the world
they know better in their head
ah the truth whole truth of being
simply because they have encountered
a contradiction
but the contradiction is still
the contradiction
is still
purely subjective
oh boy
this is such a mess
but this is still a purely subjective contradiction
the only source of the contradiction here
the only source of the contradiction here
the only source of the contradiction here is the fact
that the world
does not conform
to what the socialist feels
is within their very soul
but what hegel says
according to hagel
what hegel says
is that to recognize the contradiction
as itself
objective
means
that
you recognize the difference the contradiction
as proper to the thing itself
not just something that dwells inside of your heart
but is actually proper to the object itself
the object
the wound is already reconciled
this is what hegel means
by the wound on the cross
we only see the world as shitty
but we do not include in the world
the very contradiction
that we experience
in a purely subjective way
if we did include the contradiction
that we experience purely subject
as a feature of the object
solf
paradoxically
this is the source of an immense reconciliation
why is that
because
true
because for hegel for example
christ for hegel
this for hegel
deliverance to the true object
is the source of true
subjective
freedom
let's say absolute knowledge
when we recognize the contradiction as proper to the object itself
and not just something
that
a
that is instantiated
subjectively as the difference between ourselves
and the world
we put the contradiction to work
we see the contradiction as the object itself and we see
we see it as something
w which is the source of a continued development
some kind
the contradiction sets in motion
the beginning
of work
the beginning of work
beginning of work
why
i got to clean this mess now
explain why
and i'm going to save this
little
arrangement
get rid of it to
so i can
bring it back
make it small
why
much
au
mo
make it
is good ac
right but this year
okay
um
why is there reconciliation
because
this
both thing
comes proper
to the object
proper to the world
the object
contradiction
well if i ck a twenty inch dick there's nothing gon do to pursue this so how do i cope
gues elien subjected stitution
perfect danswer
contradiction what is the implication of this
the implication is simple
the implication is simple
the object the world society
is no longer taken
were expected to be
a
whole form
the deviation from which
was the prior source of this appointment and
unhappiness
contradiction
is
rather
recognized as a feature of the object itself
that's placing the subject
on a new
footing
that is delivered to
that is delivered
to a relation
to the world
how should relation to the world
it was ver defined by
the active
its own active
development
the dialectic of freedom and necessity
this is kind of
all about aesthetics this turn
went from language to aesthetics
such a long paragraph too
so anything that you pursue is your other even if it is something in an ideal self of some kind
not necessarily the other is going to be the objective
response you're going to get
in that pursuit you're going to pursue for example an ideal self
and reality is going to spit out something completely different
than what you expected to be your ideal self
that is the expression of
other
it is only when there's a response to you
that
and other
your stream is covering
the box
ango box nine
if i accept i will always be lacking in anything then why pursue anything
well what is the object of that you can pursue if you recognize the it's not that you will always be lacking danvil
it's that the object itself is lack
the object itself
and why is it lacking it's only lacking from a subjective perspective
in axual reality
the object
is positive
in such a way
that you subjectively experience it as lack
but this subjective experience results from a feature an objective material feature
proper to the object itself
feel this s makes much more sense it was another
language th english
i don't expect you guys to get this right off the bat this is just an intro
and it's not the best intro
possible
but i want you guys to take something away from it
something
nice
i just saw that nice
i just saw that link in g nice
um
now now you guys can see wen a deeper german idealis perspective why i say we're living in socialism partially the reason why i say we're living in socialism
is because
i want to combat
would ginji rightly recognized as would hegel called the beautiful soul
i want to combat this
aesthetic of socialism
you see
this aesthetic of socialism
if we say we're already living in socialism
and
so the meaning of we already live in
this way
the meaning of
the meaning of we already live in
socialism
is that
socialism is no longer
confined to a little
box in our heads
forever set against the world
the very contradiction
that gives rise to our socialistic
subjectivity is recognized to be proper to the object the world itself
hence the
the world is
already
so
that's what i'm right
see
if you have terminal angle brain rot no
it's not going to make sense at
nice i'm going to come back and watch this when later thanks for the good work see later sopprilette
apreciate you being here
s later
and
but su
so i got some
got some
m
so
patients
on
ge
this year this year this ok
sorry
alright
oh i'm covering it sorry
covering it again with the fok
there's no way to win except if i disappear
see this
okay
i don't remember anything i read that's one symptom
that's ok it's ok
i just want to introduce you a little bit
to
the dialect
this
initiates
right here
putting it onto the object itself
initiates re initiates
the dialectic process
what's called in marxist terms unleashing the forces of production
you become subjectively attuned
a
to dialectic of freedom and necessity
and you become delivered
to this
process of the unleashing of the forces of production
i have a long journey to go don't worry about a lot of people take years and years to understand
you know
and i'm trying to condense a lot
you love this lecture cabins luicious thanks man
like i said i didn't have time to prepare for this and a lot of this is coming off the top of my head
and i'm trying to take into account what i would expect you guys to be at
that's why it's just
i'm stumped a lot you know because this
thinking about what i would should i say you know and what will make the most sense
i
okay
a
okay
i'm glad ginje ginjit
like knows exactly what i'm talking about here you know
he's very educated and well read and
so he knows exactly what i'm talking about i'm just trying to
try to make the best way to make it
understandable to you guys
alright let's
let's continue
okay now
exactly spikey exactly
exactly exactly yes you get it
you get it
um okay
okay
dialectics
i want to try and work with your guys as associations when you see this word dialect
above all what you should be thinking about
above all
you should be thinking about
when you see this word
th
is
the tit for tag
hahh tids
it's it for tat
the back and forth the the
the movement
of something
to its opposite nothing
and back
oh
inscribed
oh
proper
to one object
ultimately
one object itself
a dialectic
re first
tin movements
that every form
every discreet
four
and tangible form necessarily
enters
into contradiction
with
its own conditions of existence in a way that cannot be preemptitively defined known or contained within the form itself
i know this is not that helpful because i'm just typing paragraphs and shit
and i'm not doing enough visual illustrations you know
so maybe i should do that
and on being off topic here
but when i hear the word dialectics firsting comes to my mind is different sandings of dialect
western vers easn marxs had which it self is dialected absolutely absolutely
guys
all of this comes together
ok
the east vers west difference is a dialect
the rule versus urban is a dialect
town versus country
a dialect
mind versus body is a dialect
i
marxist materials dialectic means there's a unity of opposites
so it is a search for
grounding these
contradiction
such a way
so as to arrive at their objectivity
their objectivity
contradiction is itself
syriaus
maateial
contradiction is itself what is material
that's why i speak of substantialism as anglo saxon seventeenth century metaphysm
within substantialism
the thing that is material is already a predefined form of some kind
it's a tangible object in the clickal sense of our words
it's an object like this water bottle
it's an object like an apple it's already a predfined form
but
the object relevant for dialectics
serialus dialectics
what is so material about the object
is not the fact
that it is sensuously
real
only sensuously real
but that
the
contradiction
reveals itself
as objective
as objective
in a way
that cannot be contained
for example in a previous grounding of the dialect
the example of this is hagels dialect
hagel's dialectic attempted
to ground the very
subjective
appreciation of
dialectic itself
in ultimately one form
one form
that
philosophy through philosopy
marx simply
continued to dialect
he said hegel
a can't you see
that in this movement
of arriving at absolute knowledge
having exhausted the whole extent of
philosophy
the movement of philosphy
you have merely arrived
and um
commanded
you will
a
compelled
an encounter
with the otherness
in actual reality that is
proletarian
proletariat
is the concrete
disclosure
of a unity of our
namely and this is kind of separate
dialectics
proletaria
so i
pletarian
a concrete manifestation
of a contradiction
and what is this contradiction
what is this contradiction
the actual living
expression of what hegel
arrives at
in thought
as the unity of opposite
and not being
okay
philosophers only interpret the world ver is the point is change it
needs trolling
as usual
the actual living expression of what he gol arrives
at in thought
primarily
a scandal for philosophy since
since
it
the bases
he he
the
philosophies universal state
man
as premised by thought
four
as citizen
proletariat
is a hole in the edifice
of hegolian
universal stateh modern
statehood in gener
proletary the one
productive relations
the other
n know the proletariat then though this is where we must escape
the one sidedness
of merely recognizing the dialectic in the form of a contradiction
and recognize the contradiction itself to be object
which means
our object is no longer one or the other
our object is the very essential
contradiction
for which
the distinction between one and other
is a secondary expression
subjectively
meaning
the proletariat is itself a concrete unity of o
the proletaria is itself the concrete
unity of our
the unity of opposites
i
between
between what
from the perspective of the universal state which attempts to premise man
by some kind of form
citizen
the citizen
the proletariat is the living contradiction
the unity of opposites
between man
between man and his material actual
sensuous
this
marks
and living reality
and
the modern form
of citizens
this is the unity of opposites that defines the proletariy
this is the unity of opposites defining the politary
right the other is the citizen and what is the other ness of the citizen
for hagel
for hagel
the other nis of the citizen
for example
is the void
form for hagel arises forth
from the void
for marks
form does not arise from the void
form arises from some type of material content which cannot be preemptively known in thought
were subjectively
but which is nonetheless
real and material and object
and in a sense
in a sense
the busze was state
for example
form of the buszis state
arises in contradiction to
what
the peasant
right the the rule countryside
ven d whatever
the proletariat is the living and concrete manifestation
of that contradiction
as
living in
persist
that's why marx's privileges the proletariat and not the peasant
mark's privileg is the proletaria
because
for marks
the dualism
of the modern bourgeoisie
a and
and and
the cities and the mass would marks cause the mass of
the rule poor
for example
this contradiction
does not reveal anything to us about
what is
objective in being
so
it's a one sided contradiction
right
it's not enough we need the proletaria
disclose the fact that the contradiction is itself something that
is object
and it's not just
dwelling in a subject
who recognizes difference
between town
with a mass of the rule poor
and the
i
so yeah
okay um
think i'm going to start taking questions
we're really kind of going down in viewers even though we peeked at eighty which is falcking crazy
fucking crazy
but this is probably a good time to just start taking
quest
unless you guys want me to explain some more stuff
that i
then maybe i'll think of more things
that i wanted to say that i forgot about
what did i want to say
oh
i don't know this is the intro this isn't going to be the last educational stream about dialect
maybe i'll say that say this
i
i will be
much more
want to get the ball
and get you guys
in new way
that
x
sorry if i disappoint
i can do more but i just need your feedback a little more because at this point
i need to think a little more about
what i should say
it's just an interest
you know
senior
it'sjust my best attempt at it in
and i can already see the lefty pol comments in do to bd look a stupid it remember guys next stream
give me what you think i should address and respond to and i only address that
not
the lefty pull ups don't care about this hegel onan on one
has would you yes i'll invent i'll invite you gentle
g
via twitter
i' going to invite
okay
let's have
injee
our guest
speaker
enter the building
see
invite
copy invitely
we're going to invite our guests
speaker ginj
ok i'm going to exit out of paint
we don't be so harsh on yourself we just want
so wew you got adjust your shit
we don't need a one to one weeed a zero zero one yeah
yeah
there's just some shit in my head that i wanted to say that i forgot about
you know
okay
i just forgot about a lot of
you know
okay
just invited you
i just invited ginji
my bt are you banned from the top set no dude i didn't ban anyone no one's banned in our chat
nobody but nobody's banned in the chesck
nobody's been
we don't do that over here guys we don't ban
we don't do that over here
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i'm very bad
be right back sorry
let's see we don't have anybody in the
ihoudvent why did'
you have to do that schizo energy
that's just facts the good in the bad that comes with it
yeah dude it's off the top of my head to you know because of this law school bullshit
poor housjust realized the western left has been more folked than he thought and he had lowt e pis expectations
possible
i've always known that dude
ah
okay
engage in a dialectic with this video
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but
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i want to drop out of law school thats honestly i want to drop out
but
you know i got to secure my future but i hate i fucking hate law school do i feel it's a waste of time
i fuck and hated dude
i hate it so much
you have no idea
i wish i could do this shit full time not i'm not just talking about streaming but also writing
you know
and studying and doing all this
full time
i fuck in a law school
works on my machine
send the link again i need a
another link
yeah i mean you don't get to choose how you make a living you know all jobs a
and this at least law school gives me time to
do this
you know
hes youar
what up genje
was sub ginji
your mike is really bad really bad mike
i'm going to mute you i muting is here
hold on
took terrible mike to
terrible mind
school of life hob
your mike's really bad it's really bad it's like
your mike's really bad u
where can you find your writings bro
i want to know what i should really i want to know like who my audience is first you know
and then i'll
i'll release stuff
i'll tailor my stuff
to toward my audience
i never i never write things to to whom they may be concerned i always write for a purpose and for a context
and for an audience
you know
ah
me tell there's a problem is my
i just told her
what who did marx write for
marx had an audience in mind
he wrote for the new york tribune
and most of marx's work were published
after his death by angle
for the workers movement that existed at
so mark didn't write to whom it maye
either
you know if i'm going to be paid for my wriuntings i'll write to whom maybe that's what it's for guys
writing for to whom it may be concerned is for getting paid that's why sesic
releases twenty books a year and they're all the same thing
because he just wants to make money and i need to make money too don't be wrong the's nothing wrong with
but
if i'm going to have a targeted audience and i'm doing it for free
i don't want to waste my time or your
ginji theres a lot of
so how should riight for american pools we're not there yet
noo ca you
lucoking bad
are you his ster
life in the sahart
america's a lot bigger than germany re marxs alive true and there's also the fact that
the workers movement was a lot more concrete than
whatever we're going to define as america
cause why is dialectic relevant
that's a really good question
it's relevant because the let the all the lefs problems stem from one sidedness
you know
in any subject is they get too caught up one sidedly and they never see the bigger picture of
what the contradicts
y
can't believe we have fifty viewers watching
that's what jen said it's a
sandtorm man returns
it's like technical difficulties extreme technical difficulties
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and
so hiy
oh
trying and play you the microphone ginji
mayb you call your phone weill fix this guy he's going to fix it
i'm just reading some shit that's funny
not going to show it to you guys though i was going to laugh to myself es can watch me laugh
than you
i'm just waiting forhim to join
so i'm i'm reading that pull thread guys pull throread is actually kind of funny
yeah i'll do a i think i'll do that
i don't know
i think the next one' is going to be about imperialism and i' want to put a new poll on our twitter
so you guys can vote about it
i'm so i'm fascinated by this let me see if there's any porn
here n the is n
i'm reading this pull thread gt as'm fulking fascinated by
the
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i'm was going to show the chat this fortune thing
i can't hear you i can't hear you
i can i'll tell you when i can hear you i can't hear you so far
i just can't
i'll tell you when i can hear you ok
ok
im you to do
okay
check the sit out do
these people like me more than left people
and guess what dude sages heyar what a pussy
and look where he lives
thenight s and i say he's a fucking angle you i told you
i told you dude
i told you
interesting th these people
i don't know if i want to read all this
dude
interesting
okay that's an interes
threat
all right
going to go make dinner nice stream you'd see later jimmy
subjenial o'higgins
what
all right
do have link to the thread
someone should make sage mad
sorry i'm be behind with the stream i would like to ask you ginji younplaan the proter and his unity opposite thing
sure
the proletariat is the unity of opposites the opposites being
the form of the modern citizen and the actual real
humanity
for example as a pito myze by the peasants
the working humanity the material humanity economic humanity
protary is the unity of o
it's not simply just the peasantry
to be one sided
the unity of the opposite itself
the only thing i could see in that third was a craiglist for
for
here
and white noise and come in
no
jesus
i was so loud
somebody should have told you this hoe was sage is something anyone can name theselves or not the bump
thread
if you think a thread doesn't deserve to live you save you
oh ok
i don't i'm not familiar with the lingo not familiar with the terminology
you know
screen is frozen
know the screens just frozen
screezes frozen
our angle brains can't understand g
i don't know what's going on dude
oh my god
stay way too long
taking way longer than it should
on
he's here but i
he's joining
there's a so patient guys i've just been fucking browsing shit
today
such a bad streamer
all right i'm going to browse it with you guys
ginjy dude i can't keep
i can't keep up with this dude
you know
we got at some point i got to give the chat something
some content
you know
let me just tell gjit this
you know i got to
i got to give chat something to watch
you know i can't
have you guys just
watch me brows the in
waiting
has opinion on anglo music
actually don't really like it
honestly i
i like irish music
what is your favorite dinosaur
the
to
fucking tricetops not what's the one with the fucking
the the horns and shit
whatever that one is
speaking what up chris what em tok con git haven't seen ahim onstream
i don't know dude i just sent him a d m on twitter that i got a
we got to get the show on the road you know
you got to continue the streams got to continue this is been
way too long we've been
do enough
i want to hear can you dout meet
me too
but this needs to be fixed
i don't know what's been going on
this needs to be fixed
this must be fixed
right
trying to be optimistic
trying to be optimistic in this is in work
trying to be optimistic
lut of dinosaurs have horns
what is i think it's a trice tops ory trice sera tops
ya it's a tried syrup tochops
i like that one
think
think i like that one the most
isn't it weird how triy sarahtops
is a
is it tri saratops a
reptile is not folking weird it's like the strangest reptile
that's ever existed
is it a reptile
they are stupid
no it's not a reptile
wait is it reraptile i don't fuck in the
shit
maybe that's pre the classification of
reptiles
try this and critique it
ok
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neeeds your links don't work for some reason
sen send me the link on twitter
send me the link on twitter
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all dinosaurs are reptiles right
a bird
dinosaurs were ripped
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and i can't hear you anymore
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if i put my headphone in you can't hear me
if that means that you'll get some echo or something
byde
leftist can only protest and achieve nothing in the past one hundred years
that's true in the west
communism already tried and the result was nineteen thirty two
uh okay
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if i put my headsphone h i know i know
but do you have auh feedback right h do you have echo right now
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maybe we can
we can deal with it for now yeaheh we can deal with
it's better than before you know
four was just white noise
okay first of all do theh congratulations with your uh you know
uh too lung didn't breed the
how do you call this that dialectics introduction
thank you appreciate it was sav so tough i mean of course it's a huge topic it's a huge topic
h did just see my comment
on that atter um
you know when i said that for me man diabetics comes up
i think first of all yye the eastern versus the bestern marxist interpretation of directics itself
yeah
yes
so this is a thing you know
i know you don't really like ja p sut
uh and for good reasons but i think he had a good uh criticisms
of the so called eastern marxist or
what he would call
and ganzia marxist view of dialaectics that being that
okay let let let's let's hear uh o out okay so
sub says that you know that angles tried to apply diactics to materialality itself
and and the starts uh criticism of angers is that you know
uh these uh specific dialectical rules
do not actually apply to physics to chemist chemistry and so on
yeah
this is the so called the western conti dialectic goal begins with lupox aion yeah
yeah yeah
that's that's another yeah yeah
but here's the thing uh
here's a thing
you know
for the western marxists
uh this whole
uh how should i call it
framework
of marxism is the
leas
exspected
to
uh social phenomenal ya ya ya ya
it's contient w yence inusationalism
maybe maybe but it's it's what ihul call your point of view
but he is a thing
that
the eastern marshes so so called eastern marhes
there to project
dialectics on to nature itself you know i think this all this is the two
but you know i sogree as you
ok but let's for a second acceptes dualism ok
and you
sart says that that act these is only for social phenomona fat phenomenon and the startss that these so kind of gezia marxist you know the eastern marxists
project this whole dynatics onto nature itself
so we have this
and this
but there's a thing dude
if i accept
sarts definition which is to say that only social phenomenon can be dialecticized
yeah
and
the eastern marsis say that this whole then i thical process can be applied to nature allegly
i would think that this guy has a point
because they
i mean i don't not cle and i did not say that you know human being is a part of nature
but
the westn side
basically implies that not so very much
m
well i want to give you a brief rundown
what i think about this
to me
you know the distinction drawn between marx and angles is unjustified it says from a misreading of marks the way i go resolve this false contradiction
between nature
and the transcendental screen that mediates our relationship to nature that's called sociality
which actually doesn't derive from marks at all it derives from the neocontians of the early twentieth century
that were actually the ideological outgrowth of western social democracy the neo conscience
lucox was actually very much a western social democrat
reacting to bolshevism that's why we're hidi garians infrared the view for us is that idgger and other german conservative intellectuals inadvertently
were giving expression to what was going on with bolshevism
but were too stupid to see that it was bollssm they opted for the fake version which was nazism but that's another story but to me i
the first thing i would want to say is that there is dialectics is against one sidedness but if but there' is a reason why dialectics is either materialist or its idealist likewise we can only be in a sense eastern marxist or we can be western marxist the western marxist will say that reflexively eastern
are superimposing a predefined logic onto nature metaphysical right yeah maybe contradental that metaphysical enthusiasm
but the eastern marxist would say
you're putting words in our mouth
we did no such thing
we merely related
two
objectivity material objectivity
as our objects
this is the source out of which we derive the very necessity
of dialectic thinking
rather than superimpose a preexisting logic upon nature
we replenish our idieology and our
views of the dialectic based on a deeper sublime necessity and i'm going to clarify what that means that results from possessing some kind of sense of the objectve in nature why do i mention sublimity though because another point of distinction between the east and the west is that the east is known for something called
oriental fanaticism which is a special relationship to sublimity
that the west does not have the east relates to the sophiological if you're not familiar with vladimir sol called whatever his name is sophiology the russian guy it's related to the absolute the metaphysical absolute in the object not as a predefined logos but as the more feminine unspeakable un
aathomable
sublime to me the east means materialism in that sense the east means materialism the west to me means idealism the reason i side with the east is not because they think east will destroy the west actually maybe the lesson of mutually assured destruction is that it's not possible for one to destroy the other we're stuck with the contradiction but to me
the east is the source for this contradiction to be replenished the new to be replenished the new and set on new terms just as lenin's thought that the democratic was in the countryside
a could set the class struggle the contradiction of the class struggle on new terms we must always be oriented toward the material
in order for form the ideal and perhaps also the west to be set on new terms
i think that's the wager of materialism before i let you speak need think you so much i was going to ask you please time the fucking idiot out in the chat holy
is it sage again i think it might be sage sages like schizophrenia gives a million different accounts
and he like he larves as a right winger and he larve s ays
yeah time that guy out put him in my little beitch box
filthy how does it feel to be put in time out like a little time out little bits
sorry this is like a ul garity unworthy of a depth is goyh it's ns it's necessary it's up sos necessary
but tak mister thing uh ask
i think the point i missed in your intro to directics
discoursed
is the following
i brought up this example for a very specific reason as i said
theres this so called uh wester marxist point of view theres the so called easter marxist point of view
okay
we can uh
analyse them from
you know their objective perspectives
but here's a thing
for them
the bax the arcist
the easter com maases
go too far
in the sense that they dialecticize uncritically
nature itself
but
from the point of view of eastern marxists
the western marsists don't go far enough
because they faile to realize that the human being
is a national being
so you know
it there is moment
but i think there's this overarching
then this overarg changer
a dialectical approach but there's inside the dialectic
you know there's the overarching
h hager what call it i don't know what you know the
becoming of being becoming of thought whatever
but inside that dialectic
there are subjective positions
that
mutually
eutually
h
misunderstand each other
but i think
for
the dialectic
the masus dialect
hes dialectic as well but for both these dialects
there's always a one and established form
and there's always something
and if you reach egia you understand what i mean and you understand what i mean
there's always something which is only defined
because it is not
it only stands for the further qualification of the form itself
meaning you cannot treat them as two discrete forms that are equals and that we must arrive at a golden mean in between them
one of those stands for the future developments itself another is a crystallized temporary form
given to it that makes sense so to me though this this thing about dialartization of nature
it's not so much that the east in my perspective
does this ya
in my perspective
they view the object
the material object itself
as something
already
latent with a contradiction
it's not that they impose contradictions on reality
they already recognize the one
the object
the material object as itself in regards to our human finitude
contradictory
that's why in the east okay you can sorry but at this at this point at this point sorry at this point i have to be the uh defense lawyer or aso western marxism
because
from their point of view therey they are charging eastern marxists
for being too ready
to directicize nature you know i know the the point is that in
just just to make it clear so from thevest marxis the point of
you
yeah
uh dieticis is uh
one hundred percent uh
proper insight
uh you know human societies
but they say that maybe maybe
dialalectics
can be
used or applied to nature as such
but there are breaking points between you know
uh social
uh biological
and physical and so on but this you know that this dis thing again i don't know the lawy anyway im not notarsing against you in but
yeah the argument itself yeah
do you know that this distinction between
the
radically alien nature
and the human subjectivity
is proper
to i don't want to mention angle because it's good it's paranoid at this point
but it is something
proper to classical madernity initiates this distinction
classical ajoerney
the east's response to classical modernity has always been to say that rather than possit nature purely in as marx actually would put it as nature wholly estranged from man nature must be perceived as the sight within which this contradiction is reconciled which means
that would basically the i'll try to give you my perspective on what the western marxists are think and some of their errors the first er i think they make is that they superimpose upon easterners every flexivity that's not there they say that the easterners are reflexively beginning as idealis and then superimposing their idealism
upon material reality
whereas is good conscience they say no
there is an other
the thing in itself if you will the blind nature the metaphysical metaphysically a strange nature and we must respect that or else we're going to pollute the purity of science modern science and so so on so they say easterners should not you did they basically underestimate easterners and they t they think that the easterners are unprepared for the
shocking revelation that nature there's something fundamentally a stranged about nature from our human society and human subjectivity but the problem in my perspective is this they make two assumptions
one that in the east there is a fortress human society a comfort space
and two
that the otherness of nature is somehow foreign and impossible and shocking to eastern societies when in fact
it's precisely something they're so used to you don't even have to mention it it's a given that
out there is different theres something gve being given to us that is different from our experect nature somehow humiliates us the other the object but the whole east is built upon this fact the east itself is defined by some type of recognition and assimilation and conformity to this this is the sublime object of the east
they don't even have a fortress that is called the transcendental human social relations of society that can be divorced from this the whole thing is based on this radical encounter with
the sublime object this is why this is why there's western racism more or less because the east is associated with monsters hoards from the
yeahk ok so still keeping on me this
uh you know theme of me being the lawyer of the wester marxists if i may
you know
you yourself
as a leconian
of some sort
you know ty well
that didn't say
quanitative
difference
emerging from the fact that the human infant
it starts to learn or becomes
mm
human subject
that is
a human subject that uh
masters or is or is in the process of mastering a language as such
you i mean as a lecanian you have to accept this fact that uh
there's this and pmll being which is the part of the homosapis you know our rates
and after the point that little idiotic being starts to get some kind of point that oh my god this is a language which in i'm included
and there's another and so on
and the western marxists
stress this point of view that there's a qualitative
shift
from the biological you homosapi s infant
to the speaking being infant
but
i you're right you're right but i think
even from a laconian
spective what i would say is that
this ship
should radically
shame
what it is we thought
was the at original biological
human
we should reinscribe
like this is how i think
the dialectician escapes anglo saxon temporal
ok ok
you're become a time traveler
rather than
say
first you have the human who is a biological animal
and then
there's a radical rupture
in which you enter the symbolic order so on is
we must say instead
this rupture proves to us something about the essential nature about the original animal
solf
don't like'
almost there almost that it proves a fucking point about ontology itselfy you know
be ajck in here that there's something there's a gap in precisely precisely
that's why s reality itself yet that's why susu always makes the point
of remembering that marx quote
we learn the anatomy of an ape
through
yeah
and i think this is the material was
di ya but from this uh she sharking your point of view
if i may uh reframe my lawyer defense of the soperbastn marxist it will be this that the so called eastern marxists uh
basically just
step
over
uh this gap of onthology they say that you know human is just another animal
there we go it's solt
but for divestor marxist it's a bit more complicated and by the way i have a be mean let's just make this clear that byvester marxist i don't mean anglos you know i i know i beeve you mean you know everything sa of course
what i would say is that
this problem stems from the fact
that easterners do not do well
in the shop
or in the
the i don't want to say you not urn you said notur they do not dwell in being impressed or shocked
or
it's superflu the oft upture yet for them it's superfluous it's a given that they're not exactly
and for them this is why the east represents
this precise rupture in its actual material development
whereas the west tries to pin down the essence of what it is
by some kind of reflexive informal means
and you can even argue this is true before
majority i mean what was the western scholasticism if not this ok ok yeah i get your point i get you point
but you know
i mean
inside your mind has
there must be
some kind of you know
antagonism
because as a
suppose lekinia youus see
that there's a rupture
when a human being becomes a speaking being a subject
proper you
but
my and it's lucky and you must acknowledge the fact that there's a qualtitative difference it this is the dialectic we're talking
all right
all right but we're also talking about the different dialectic which is being you know the
western and eastern maarxists no no i know i know and i know the i'm speaking about the rupture you're talking
my point is that
the eastern
yes
recognize this dialect
as the very object
of
veneration and
worship and devotion
basically the object
material object itself and
furthermore
but there it's the perspective of ultimately of wisdom
the easterners perspective says
initially we experience
the shok
inerruption this is where i kind of break was usic
not kind of
really blak pictre
uh
there is a kind of shock or an interrupt
but it's only because we are now delivered to a deeper more fundamental sense
positive
material of
this shark
disrupture
is proper to the sublime object
self whereas what would what would es should say
he would almost say the same thing
but jesjak would instead say
that the rupture
the shock is itself the only real thing
the object is only this kind of abstraction of this rupture the shot
for the easterner there is a positive material object not empirical
not substantial
positive material object
which reconciles
the whole shock which is not in it's we're talking about the same shock the infant entering the symbolic order
and the pre modern subject entering moderny
is exactly the same thing we're
my
ok hans
so reight okay what
what you just said i are so let me be phrase my you know lawyer phase you what you just said
so for the wester marxis they would say that
you just said
in defense of eastern marxism that they have the so called object
and for them it's a popable you know touchaball
something a possible material reality
and you know the eastern massies but sorry the western massiest would say that
this is exactly the reason why we had the gulag
this is exactly the reason i hed this startingism and so on and these excesses
of course of course i don't disagree
both stalinism gulag
the taliban
i wouldn't say i sus i blame on the english
but islamic iranian revolution mao was excesses
all these excesses yes
but to me
these excesses represent the open and honest developments of material reality in its actuality
the west pretends to be civilized
but on the ridge in the border of the west
we find the same excess
so so come me so can we agrey on this point basically that the
as you said on your previous dream that
fuking reality is brutal
it's disgusting pcise but it is what it is
precisely yes
so this gives a point to easter marxists versusy basically yes i mean
this is actual reality in its
nyd developed
itut hiding behind
the safe space
ok we are so only given to the real and concrete
brutality
contradiction of the world
without finding refuge
h would lennin for example would call the hipocritical reff
o
social chauvinists
who speak of the civilized west
well at the same time
so
here we are
a
you just had a i don't know twenty minutes discussion i don't know previously
about sages idiotic thread
about you know the world is a gulag but we agree
basically if the word is not a good but it's a really fucking ugly place you know you know why i reject that post so much the world is a good g because to me
the thing that defines gulaug is not that it was able to control
people
but that when you look out from the perspective outside of the gulad you see a type of chaos
to me sages fantasy of the world as a gulag
is a quintessential western fantasy of attempting to impose exactly a form upon that
second second
exactly
and and you know another thing another thing
for i think that for seeg this gulab
fantasy of he sorr he's in the chat right now and he's you know you know
hey mods hey fellow months just give him a time out or whatever you know
talking with this media
no i mean seriously
has i don't know if you if you know this but the
sage
or openly sad with his fucking hash tags or whatever on left the boll that he was insane
i mean he openly says he' is insane do what are we doing here right now why are we responding to him nowch he says he's insane ok do that
you know maybe need some la com maybe you need some psychiatrist p psychologist p psychoanalyst but don't fuck in
spam this fucking thread
don't you have anything better to do you foll you doesn't you he doesn't
but it's this is your point isn't it fascinating though that
why are people attracted
to success in this way and have this impulse
just destroyed
because
they are people who enjoy failure
and they wanted m
they it's like misery love's come
you know they want
drag
it's like but why us why target us what is our crime it infrared what's our crime
our crime is
ing success do you want to do you want my take honestyy
it' so fuck in autistic do
he is he's the
that
too long didn't read version of has
hverses
a sage here it comes
sag said
strikes are direct action
has proved that you know anything that is neediated like union strikes
are by definition lo them definition are not heck
and from that point on this fucking little goblin this fucking little golum goum goum
mind blown and he tries to stay face and this is all this is all his fucking h dear
you know i'm not to address sage but more on this thing of direct action
you want know america with how sickening the context
direct action is though
you know you
for every good communist understands the real struggle is at the site
well
of laos
what
the right it's a russian word for power
means
kind of th
executive
a cold
primordial
sight of real power
the dictatorship the class dictatorsi
right
you know what a marxis this real power would you know stem from productivity
you know yeah butm but it's is stranged and singularly manifested in some type of in the soviet union for example
this is how they referred
power don the e of cat river
we must seize the
largely wrote an article about
months
i
this is the site at which
ah
the class struggle reaches its most advanced
level right
in america
in america
because leftist completely failed bernie sanders and he failed himself
course
instead of going and corbin in the uk
seort of going back to the drawing board and asking what the fuck did we do wrong
i see a bunch of youus and now it's time for direct action run in the street and this is the discuss it in context it's a cop out
from the objective side of struggle
from an objective going back to the books
and think about
why did we fok this up so bad
you know he's
why is it
that we were unable to continue
and develop the objective contradictions
of the american politics what did we do wrong instead of doing this they say
this individualistic stupidity
th
let's directly go and do things individually
well this is a cop up this is laziness you can't just directly go and do it
you know that's that's one of the contexts of direct
you know
has this is one of the saddest ispects i don't think you're familiar with
but as a hungar indian from
a so called exx socialist country
this is the fucking view from my point uh
don't
are so cod
leftists here
are in a leg
i do familiar with this definition you know so the's happening here
it happens and the leg means that
after the
after a time t's adopt it yeh you here'sing
yeah
this fucking idiot
leftists leftists in my country are basically
in a five to ten year leg
between anglos basic yeah yeah so right now
they start making parties in my country
cause
democratic socialist o yes yes dude yes so after after after fucking burnie failed
twice
after fucking corbin failed after fucking series a failed in a greece dud
they are just now starting to make their own democratic socialist parties
they're like in a time they're in a different deion ok here's some optimism
optimism
ready
yeah you want to know it's also sign of proglem
because
it seems like they're behind
the hunk hungaryan people are behind
but it's just because they're s the're
their speed running
that makes sense
yeah because the internet speeds it up yeahh it's true
they're going to speed run it and then
soon maybe a year or two they're going to be ahead of the west
hopefully let's be up there ah but sorty it's also a politic uh class political element to this because you know
those people who start this fucking uh democratic socialist parties who try to copypaste corbin and so on
they are these
eternally online
fucking you know
b m c people you know it's like it's like you know so they have the fucking
yeah it's interesting because it's like
the internet's an american invention and when we're on the internet unless we have china's great firewall which particular reparticularizes the internet
and that's the tendency we're in
now take not
but
up till now yes up till now the internet
is the ultimate america everyone who's on the internet is an america
way right at least
in the outside of china but
here's the thing is that
you know there's that you know those means
of the political compass that show the different walljacks in different boxes that are really big ones the really big political compass compasses
that show all the wojacks like from left to right and
you know i'm talking about
course
yeah
i think these are the
these represent
the quintessential american perspective
and the reason is because
the internet has allowed us to abstract ourselves
from our country i'm speaking i'm an american so i'm not included
but if we're outside of america
the internet abstracts us
from our local countries
and allows us to see ourselves from an alien
the universal perspective
these olitical compass means to me are the quintessential form of that
and to me this represents actually
ah
the next stage
ushered in by china is that we're going to rise from the abstract
back to the concrete
ok ok that's was too fast for me
ya
how does the checkine ah
gets because theause is china has passed through
the american majornity
in the form of
twentieth century state socialism
then it has the internet
but china's internet for example has the great firewalls
so it's particularized internet
china does not see internet communication as
virtual abstract in the void in
you send it off into the void and it's addressed to whomever it concerns
china says no fuck you were going to trace you to the exact material conditions
of your existence
what's your ip what's your computer what's your server what's the power plant
partnts
that's energized
they've nailed down the infrastructure of the internet and kind of
you know what i mean like
they arrive from the abstract back to the concrete
and i know you're this infrastructure
i know you're not the kind of guy but i still have to ask did you hear the latest chapelon house episode
no no i dide
okyh of course not okay n anyway i i clipped
the version that i think is important in the
theu left
people p r c thread you know people's republicus chinad
uh and you know these fucking anglos these fucking reditors that are ch apples rapples and idiots
they themselves said
you know
they contrasted
what the wesn media said about china
and their so called coplet nineteen response brazls
chinnel's you know big data and so on
infrastructure and their um
u copit the response
and even this fucking red lep
chapeld prouss ready tours said that ok
so here's the picture on the one hand
there's china
and in bejing you know twenty something twenty three million people living there and zero
fucking covid casees is
meanwhile they are using big data and so on
in a centralized manner
on the other hand we have
fucking new york or whatever
i don't know how many million people
and we have you know
ten thousand people dying every year every every day
so what the fop
meanwhile in the so called free vest
the pick that up
functions the big data functions
but not only not in the same ay as in china in china big data in a sense serves
yah
making sure that cobe doesn't spread
in the best
big diita spreads for what u you know
tracking my buying results
tracking my girlfriend
you know this is the
the same technology on both sides
and the differences between results
okay okay hans
you know one one more fucking thing because uh
because i know you love the debate and so on
so you know on on your latest video i i uh
i made the comments can you can you show it on your screen maybe
oh yeah yeah sorry i briefly forgot but i remember wh you talked
which one was it on was on the
give me a second more i
it's on the video called you can stop the inevitable o
sure
and it starts me it's likelly i my pe i sorry for not yh
so i don't know who's this uh
o t n o t guy is
the enalty
oh i didn't yeah i didn't see that one
okay but anyway
i think that uh this uh o t n oti guy is somewhat um
how should i call it
and i rest of license
best of es is your your basic points
let me let me read it just to see if i can give my pching
revolution is a multi cit
i agree with that insurrection it might us
yes i agree with that
there is no after the revolution
you think that's a
roses and
i kind of agree with that
you have to abandon your utopian
there thingy do for that the revolution is realis
i kind of agree with him ya i just i i think you g i give it my approval ya
okay so here's my point
i basically kind of
agree with those points
but you know the devil is in the ou ort deenenationvi that wasn in the detailsight
its bactly exactly exactly
so you know
that
just just for the second you know uh
are we going to
for feet
uh this term revolution
are we going to what
are you going to say that evolution this term is out of the indoor or something i mean come on
i mean the mot
i no no i see where you're coming from i think
ya
i think um
i think we shouldn't abandon it but we should just be more careful about
how we use
and not use you haven't used to abused it but
i see a lot of leftists always talking about the revolution and
the revolution is the revolution that
i' get your point
when you say that you know when these lefter massist think about the revolution they think about salvation
if
i'm not on that train
you know what train i'm on
has and you said in your last them that you fucking hate this movie called ds
yeah yeah i hate it
ok so this is the to lg didn't watch version of friends
that is about
a fucking romantic idiot bear or something fucking anarchists going to russia
uh in nineteen seventeen
and they were enthusiastic
and wen they saw how brutal
how realistic
the fucking revolution was they said
ok
s i go home now is this the went for the party
and may
they left after the cleanup yeah
so from my perspective
i don't think that we should abandon the term revolution but
by revolution we shouldn't think that it's kind of salvation or whatever no the revolution is at the point when the real verk starts
revolution is at the point
then we have to fuck in dirty are fucking hands
revolution is the point where nothing will be beautiful devolution is the point thaty be fucking
barbaric
towards our enemies because we have to be
know that is the remtion for me
of course this convers to mind to me also french rel
right i mean also we should also have another sense of revolution
is also a
i don't want to
provoke more arguments but any doing angelsian
revolution in nature itself for example
to me the geological
we should have a poetics a revolution
even in the
violence
geological and cosmological
changes that happen in nature
itself
i think this is a nice poetic s
revolt
like
revolution in the forces of production
something that's happening in reality
s
ah only we subjectively can be worthy of that
inar
we can only be devoted to ok one more thing
force
okay one more thing
okye
i uh
one hundred percent of ball was
this view
that seeing anything
so called positive
y
how should i say predictive
or you know
things about what happens after the revolution is utopia
i mean let's be fair here
even marks and angles themselves
in the communist manifesto in the second chapter
have a tem point program
you're empy program here
you know it's outdated and so but they basically propose
they say that you know for every developed country we say that one two three four five whatever
this should be generally done
i mean i think it's so
yeh
it's interesting you
when you read that
ten planks in the manifest
it's almost like
marx and angeles are saying
we must do these things to catch up
some
but the something doesn't exist yet isn you get that impression that they're saying basically ok
we need to do these just to catch up
what are we catching up
can be open can be open that ten points on
okay so it's u corporate s manifesto second chapter
a
ofh for the museum
sorry
communists and infestal
s
marxist that or will show up
this being sucks
okay
two and then it's chapter two ok here we go
oh yah
hould up
sage is so cute dude he's like he's our smeagle
is ore doalking
he said you know
it's so crazy how filthy he made a sack popent called filthy insurrectionist
because he was he was too scared to be racist
as sage
so he may fil the insurrection is the talk
i gut about the brown skin
m
that's funny
okay sorry uh
let's continue
do you have it opened yet
ya it's open it's open
spy s faestal second chapter yeah it's a its omt the end plinks te plinks right now
maybe you read it out and they comment so it they say
nevertheless in most advanced
countries the follow we pretty generally applicabal
abolition of property and land and application of all rents of land to public purpose
heavy progressive or graduated income tax
abolition of all rights of inheritance
confiscation of the property all emigrants and rebels
centralization of credit in the hands of the state by mean
of a national bank with
state capital and an exclusive monopoly
centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the state
extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state
the bringing into cultivation of wasteland and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with the common plan
equal liability of all to work thousand of industrial armies especially forragcal
combination of agriculture with manufacturing interest industries
gradual abolition of all distinction between town and country by a more equitable distribution of poplace over the country
free education for all children in public schools abolition of children's factory labor in the present form
combination of education with industrial production
that's it
cancel and and one yes yes yes
okay
so
let me my my first first fucking thing that comes to mind
point eight
mmhm
equal
lay lay up ho this si all to work liability
yeah
of waterwork
and this is a thing
from our so called enarchist critics you know many moreeran anarchists look at the so called a primitive communism like for example david greer who just died thank for god
fock fok you hem him or not to show you with thehm but
isn't his idea about that kind of interesting
you don't like it
ok so there's the labor theory value and gber tried to invent a new anthropologistic anthropologistic theory of notal but
i kind of e from a lekanian perspective this idea of
money is emerging from and i owe you one
know i kind of think maybe something can be done
but
i see how in conflict
prone and i just want
okay so contin so to continue on this point yeah eight plus e liabi liability
of all to bed
now i'm
i'm not an english native speaker but when i double click on liability
it says for me as the definition just a second
obligated it's just
responsibility for something oh my god
oh my god
these fucky marxists are saying that people should have
responsibilities
that nott
and you know for these fucking anarcho bushy people
uh they triy to copy paste
fucking primitive communies societies
ben
you know everything works
spontaneously you know gan that he goes to hunt grandmamma goes to fucking get the and had to get
that's all patriarchal
depression you just mentioned grandmamma we don't have the ditinctions but we fuck the grandma we fuck
it's all incest there's no what are you talking about the patriarch
yeah yeah so this is the twenty first century communist program
f grandma
here gramdpa
instcest is revolutionary go on twitters will tell you that
but to be serious for the moment
so you se has but i'm saying that you know communism and marxist thought
can ih be uh you know
the separated
from some kind of positivistic thinking not in the fielsopical sense but in the sense that
we have to have some kind of standard some kind of pro positive positive proposals let me try what you after the evolution try to reword it
think what i'm
actin to try
i think i see you're trying
let me try to see
we must have
we must
understand we must get some kind of sense
of what is that stake
politically
in terms of the
not creation of a new society per se
but in the basic way in which
the contradictions in the forces of production can be related to
politically
by means of policies and so on
you must have a basic sense
of that
a hunch suspicion some kind of sense of
one thing
the bummer think they would add
we've rered this c ten point program
y this is a thing
let's say you were a party focking communist party and you have such a program
the crucial thing about this is that this tempoate problem gives you a back forards view of what is wrong
with your current society yeah precisely precisely
precise like if we were season power it would be as easy as doing this and we can
i see where you're coming from
you know here's the only thing i want to say
the two things i want to say the first thing is that
one way infrared
tries to
fill this hole i know it's not an
we say we want to learn from china
because
when they wrote this
they were talking about catching up with some
that didn't exist of cose
with the objective forces of product
i think the word china
denlegdes
the third ord
what is a denlegation
the i think understan what you ch saying know it es it represents this oubjective revolution in the forces of production china
so when i say we must learn from china
this is what i mean china represents this thing we must catch up
i know it's not enough
but here is the most fatal thing i want to avoid
above all i'm
completely
completely against
and want to avoid
i don't want to create a program and then
wave it around as my little red book and scream at people and say listen this is our program just lit follow us and we can do this yah this is all you have to do is follow us we can just do this
you like that's what i'm trying to avoid
i agree with you i basically agree with your point
but i think it's only meaningful if we
are humble about
our subjective position of enunciation
let's not hold society to the measure of
accepting our ten planks
and and just say everyone stupid because no one's accepting that ten planks
you know if you would just listen to me this is a path i don't want to
i see many leftis
this is where i think we would have a kind of onehd
con
but you know you sd we're if were more modest
and we just want to
have a basic sense of what you were talking aout
basic sense of
what
how can we relate
politically to what can be done our conditions of
all this kind of stuff
completely agree with
we agree
but i also would add that
we also must bear in mind that
when you seize power
we have a lot of freedom
do many
and that's the most
important thing is the struggle
mean because if you could seize power you can do all sorts of
you know
but i basically agree with you need some sense
you need something to clarify
but
i just think we cannot
have the er of the little red book
the fanaticism over
andanther thing i don't want to fall into the air of doing is
making this our true en goal and holding all
reality
political phenomena under the standard of this specific
so i think that's what i would absolutely
i would also say that you know
i'm not an idiot so i know that uh
using this term this bom beastic term because by its very nature it's bom bestic
this term revolution
should be contextualised should be used in different uh
you
how do you ca this in english i'm so sorry
so in different uh places you should use it in different places you should bet
is an example
uh cann moubing
you know the guy
here
how many times did he say revolution
i think like you can count it on your o hands maybe five times
and this guy is employed by artie dot com so you know
ok
maybe i if you were a streaming channel like yours is
like infrad is maybe you shouldn't bomb this fucking term every fucking now and then
maybe if you try to
educate the fucking masses me bya your stream about basic realities
basic way to understand reality and so on
i completely understand it
but do it
here's a content example if i may
could you please open on youtube
uh this recent uh p s r video called uh
not a riot
an uprising
it's a p s r video
ok before i think what is
if you like it or you don't like
but what do i like
do you like it or you do not like
i absolutely fucking adot it i think it's the
like the most evolutionary thing i've seen from america
um from ten to years now
wow
so nothing i and pris from
liberation s
pce
on
i'm uh plyning it right now
okay
hepaking more than one
howny thousand
wow
yeah
that
but
so i don't want to interrupt it but just one one thing is
don't you think
this was kind of a miss
representational
protests and stuff like
they turned out to just be a kind of carnival
no
ok
from my point of view
yeah i'm going to be comtly honest and the plad is fact checked
what i'm willing to say is
you
andy
okay
court
my basic point is do that the
let's look at how
uh b
you know these froth youngman beme to be
is starting underfucking obama
and in fa gosson
they had something malrg
like um
fucky dog broadcast and you try to burn everything
pht of any
justified reasons
that was more like a spont spontaneous thing right that was like people from the community expressing
yes
but it' starting to grow and then that point
you can google in this month
yeah you're right you're right you're right i know you're going to say what happens
not the
yeah yeah yeah yeah
ok
no you're right you're right you're right what happened is no no no no you're right
at the democratic party
and a bunch of activists
from in universities
they took over the whole fucking thing
they saw there was an organic
uprising in ferguson
and then opportunistically they made themselves the figurehead of that even though they had no organic
connection to the
black community people
at all
and black lives matter the phrase black lives matter
would eventually become a democratic party brand
yeah a brand for the democratic party that's all it is
and i know black nationalists
who view would
black nation many black nationals viw
real black let nationals not the kind of
wok academic whatever but real ones who are
we have militias and stuff
you know like
so what you're saying isn't
it's nothing bad about it all
is it because
the you cannot contain
this is the most beautiful thing about it
they cannot farking contain
these fucking sho foundations
hes ing for foundations they cannot ain however they try
the caus de farking black anger
in america
he
yeah
but they're trying
they're trying really hard to you're right you're right
hundred
ok single white
the reason why i brought up this video because
this guy from the b s l
and basically gives the uniful speech
that says you know fath this af on is ched
we are for revolution
so when i said that this evolution talk is all about content
this is what i mean
okay
on the one hand
i differently understand my in mobing son
yeah
on the other hand
bang the pocket you know
more than one hundred thousand people had of fe you
yeh
you know
a
you know
a
what you know one thing just to kind of
keep the dialectu
the thing with the revolutions st is almost like everyone
agrees about a revolu
it's just what does that mean you know everyone's always talking about a
this is the right like it's just almost like we're in era in america we're after the sixties
we all want the revolution apple wants
the beatles one
everyone's talking about it but what does it actually mean
knowo
supposedly sam
fate in all these pes were an evolution by the way
by the way man the revolution
the whole time
is here us having fun
and getting out on the street
and that's the revolution man
it's all right you know like
it all ends with this kind of
bad fake eastern wisdom the ones esic always talks
that
the whole time the revolution you were looking for
was right here man on the street
would you agree with this point of view that
time
morning
thes point to the few aut the devolition is the following
the resolution
is always at the horizon
and my eyes are always on the erise
i do not speak
so he's in the mot that ever
because it's
my basic
eight
i do not
best standizes this fuckingtterm revolution
it know being my this solve my problems i mean this is the hard
struckle
that i feel sometim
maybe
lead us to do that point
and met that for us
anxio
the only thing i would add to that
out add
a kind of evil uh
satanist
you go to your you
solar soul in victors
view
the sun behind the horizon i would also say you look behind the horizon
and then you can see
that behind the horizon there's a cliff
the thing behind the horizon goes underground
and it's moving the earth below your feet
and it's moving the earth below your feet
thing that's behind the horizon
and the revolution
is a violent process
in which the ground you stand on
very ground you stand on will trust me
tremble yeah
destroyed
even if i can never shrin
the song for theion please
some of them will tremble
and some of them you'll find those
they'll be the first who triy some kill lenin who tried to kill little an anarchist
yeah how how's that how that you know that guy you called out uh not so long ago that idiot socialist who has this fucking fedora eomic
nathan robins yeah
oa
it would be the first to fucking you know abandon the fon always listen because in we talked about before in one of our videos
you know in china
who are the biggest collaborators with japan
in the thirties
ex communist party members
because they saw that mao was going to the countryside and they were urban
intellectuals and this humiliated them it offended them
so they sided with the japanese occupier
listen
the first traiters the first betrayers they're all leftists look
left who tried to kill and redly who tried to kill infrared iness in its cradle people from lefty poole even people from fortune came
and some of them
yes they they kind of lagt
the first people that will try to spit on you will try to drag you down will try to destroy you
if you try to get anywhere it's always going to be other leftists the're always going to be your number one number one andenemy
and that's we how we're living ample urmy
how pathetic are we do
but it's it's almost in it's almost like religion like
like it's o i don't wan the anti semitic
but
it's almost like when jesus came
and his own people were the first ones
to attack him
because he
with he was
i'm
where i can already see the lefty pol people saeing has thinks he's like jesus
ok let me look we're roll that back ll the back we it's not what i mean
not what i mean not what i mean
all that back all that back
meams ams incoming meams incoming ohm
all i me say is
what i'm trying to say is that
leftist
take pleasure in their failure
and
they learn to adjust to it and enjoy
and whenever you try to be successful
the people in your own group
are going to be the ones
try to drag you down
that's why to me i always say something
we can't focus on other leftists
we must focus on the people
keep our eye on the ball
maybe i have a better chance with fortune than i have with a lot of people on left
i think that is the case despite that
most of left people i think loves us
that minority that hates us i think i have an easier time with fortune and these aders these lefti has
and the simple reason is because
the real test of whether we're going to be successful or not
isn't going to be whether we please our own echo chamber
we must compete ruthlessly
the left must compete ruthlessly to win the masses
win the people
then whoever wins the people will be the real ones you know it's like it's almost like
imagine if the bolsheviks
said oh forget about the masses
we should just focus on
winning the economists
and the ments of it
all these opportunities no they said no
it's the democratic dictatorship of the workers and peasants
this is the people the bolseviks must win
whoever wins
whens
very game
if infrared becomes successful
fair game
if
the if sage becomes successful
in winning
fair game i'll give it to him i'll learn from sage if hes success
he can start his own stream
and see how successful he's going to be i'm not going to drag you down
see i'm one of those people where i say
if you're successful even if i hate you i disagree with you and you're a leftist
i will never try to kill you inhen your cradle
i will only come after you after you've already been established
very
nw i only critique people who've reached their limits and will not come to terms with the fact
that you're failing
it's your own fault you're not growing big
only when we reach our limit
and we don't grow bigger and we're not more successful
and we start blaming the world
that's when i'm going to come after you when you're growing
and you're being successful i'm not going to come after you kill you in your cradle try to kill you in your cradle
i'm going to say
even if i disagree with it
let me see what's going to happen maybe something interesting will happen
what can i learn from them
you know that's my mentality
m sotin h okay uh two things has
uh the first thing is basically bus shit post h how do you call this shit posting
but since stage is still on topic
do you know for do you know do you know for the fact that uh
what is this so called labor organizeding sage does cparently
no i don't i know nothing about m okay let me enlighten you because h sh said this in several threads
siege has a tenant
union
the
so that is is basically that
he knocks on the door
on the second door and the third door
to his fellow you know tenants and they stay ok fuck the landlord
we won't pay our rents for a month
or so
and that is his tucking union dudes
so i mean forgres the fall maybe i should be a
i mean okay so first of all okay good for you because you beeve they wk in uh
adamspace
ricardo level of consciousness which says that
and david bourgeis economists by the way but you reach that consciousness that says that farcking landlords are
panicides upon the one not just that
but it's basic self interest
right
yeh of course not going to you know
good for you basically yh but here's the thing here's the thing
for marxists unions meant a different thing you know yeah because for us fucking marxists means that
we
fucking
grab the neck of capital and
fucking strangerly
at the point of
production
and the point of product seeins eat what they're going to say is they're going to say we are doing this
this because thk this is no they're goy they're going to say they're going to say
we're doing this
no matter how small and no matter how local we're doing our part
because for example they're going to say
re's going to be like a toy shop
and they're going to say
we stop the toy shop from operating so ho how small and marginal
we did stop production that's really how they think they individualized yes
and they feel like they reproduce that at the individual level and they did their charity
and they did their work
es for them
they will say for themselves you know thisa has this wonderful speech about you know
at one point
we rebelled again capital and after twenty years we cae be became you know p the bourgeois whatever became the next the
bill gates and so on
this is the fucking place ofre sagest
he thinks that the
companying a tenant
the landlords is some kind of radical resistance
but it's not because it doesn't touch basic
social
ontology by that
i mean the facty marxis point of view that
believe in class struggle
and class struggle is determined by who is working at who is
fucking the paraicide on that very
and
the tenant unions it doesn't work like that i'm so sorry you know what good for them you know always good for them but
shut p
fock p you fucking iio sys you fucking the roll
you know
the thing i want to tell my viewers
if anything
i'm never going to tell my viewers to go out on the street
do the revolution
all this possile
oh go wor i'm never you know i'm not going to tell them to go organize i'm not going to tell you bre
you i want to say to do
if i can help you in any way
i can't give you money
what
why not
do what the actuly bets doing let's make some fucking money how about that
because you need money to eat
before anything
if you want to know more about marxism youeed to support yourself so let's become capitalist is make some fucking money
you know i'm saying
instead of spending time organizing
why don't just make money
if you have money you can do anything
and i'm so sick of this fake you know morality all that's organized thiss organized because at the end of the day they're going to rely on the soros money
right and ok d of the day it's always going to come down to institutional money and some kind of backer who does have money who you're going to rely on
and i know what i'm saying is impossible we're not going to be able to make money we're not
but i'm just saying if i was going to advocate any direct action it would be trying to advice to make some fucking money
somehow you know yeah
okay you know it my direct action for fucking sage and everybody who
even thedares to talk about direct acection is the following
read
fucking marx you fucking india that's the first direct action autstic fucking anglo
but then they're going to says and they're going to say
i'm too poor and i have too much i have to spend too much time working even though they have time to be my chatrom
yeah you play
then i would say
if you want help at an individual level
you have to find we have to you know
i don't know if i can help you but
you gota you know
hustle or so i know i sound like
lift yourself by your bootstraps
but you have a big better chance of getting out of poverty if you have the time to come on the internet stuff
trying to look up ways to make money
on the internet
then you do
doing direct action or organizing if you're going to st speak of things individualistic terms that's the plain reality individualistically
for your own life you have a better chance devoting all your time to trying to make money then you do
having a revolution pan out and work in your lifetime there's a reason why revolutionaries sacrifice their lives for the revolution
they never individualized it and said oh i'm i'm a revolutionary i'm lenin and i'm poor and the revolution's going to allow me to live a better life they completely self sacrificed and devoted themselves
and they didn't even think about themselves the individual didn't exist it was only you know me
fully devoted to the object the revolution
or the proletariat as the class or whatever
so that's what's wrong with me i make yes i go
if i may
connected to what you said
i think this is about uh this general line about uh
fucking you know
uh western
moralism
you touched upon this point from different angles
like you know
a catholic n n know you call it a protestant protestant ethic and so on that's very fair
but in on theres
even outside protestant ethic you know she just mezed respond that uh
yeah
the current day buddhism is more suited
hello
ya ya i i can hear you
ok ok so so that even it's a course western buddhists and so on
that moralism a concrete example
exactly from sage and his lk
they think that
if you are a communist
and you
let's see
on effectively
you are a bastard
all right
so
mom must try to remind them that you know fucking angles
basically on the factory
and facki marxists
on stocks
those different because of
it was different because i
you know they we were perfect
you know so we have to be more per
they were
trying to imagine what they would say
yeah but he it's the thing
after they say these that you know you may not want to beus this as a communist
they say that ok what's the solution you have to collpate that cop that
co open that eyes
your industry
under capitalism
which is
for many reasons i'm not going to go into night now
is absolutely non workable and so on
but this is a basic point about the
moralism and the what he gol called
mm
you know why
that sorry i forgot
exactly but he's a thing has
would you be so kind to read out
for fucking bettergraphs
the fronds and how long they are
if you if you take one and a half minutes ok
in the chat i told you when you were talking about this topic that i don't think that your audience exactly
understands
what the beautiful soulis
and i think there's a text that perfectly captures that
just a second
lincoln in the a
it's cold the
and
the soul of man
under th exactly
and the youunverse i'm going to link it but
i just wanted to have a disclaimer
i hate
the bread tubes
obsession with us who will
oh yeahh of course yeah yeah they don't want the size i agree with you
the thing about the terst
yeah
but please s please read the first four paragraphs what everyone heres sre will see that what this falcking beautiful soul is
the chief advantage that will result from the establishment of socialism
undoubtedly
the fact that socialsm would relieve from us the sorti of necessity of living for others which in the present condition of thing press so hard
on almost everybody
fact scarcely anyone at all skp
now and then in the course of the century
a great man of science like darwin
great poet like keiths
fine critical spirit
like mr rerennan supreme artist like flobber
has been able to isolate himself
keep himself out of reach the clamorous claims of others
to stand under the shelter of the wall
as plato puts it
and sort of realize the perfection of what was in him
to his own in comomparable gain
to the incomparable and lasting gain of the whole world
these however are exceptions the majority of people spoil their lives by an unhealthy and exaggerated altruism
are forced to indeed so to spill them they find themselves surrounded by hideous poverty by hideous ugliness byo starvation it is inevertable they should be so strongly moved by all of this the emotions of man are stirred more quickly than man's intelligence and as i pointed out some time ago in an article on the function of criticism
it is much more easy to have sympathy with suffering
than it is to have sympathy with thought accordingly with admirable though misdirected intentions they very seriously and very sentimentally set themselves to the task of remedying the evils that they see
but their remedies do not cure the disease they merely prolong it indeed their remedies are part of the disease
to try to solve their problem of poverty for instance
by keeping the poor alive
or in the case of very advanced school by amusing the poor
but this is not a solution it is angate aggravation of the difficulty the proper aims to try and reconstruct society on such a basis that poverty will be impossible
and the altruistic virtues have really prevented the carrying out of this aim
just as the worst slave owners were those who were kind to their slaves and so prevented the horror of the system being realized by those who suffered from it
and understood by those who contemplated it
so in the present state of things in england the people who do the most harm are the people who try to do the most good and at last we have had the spectacle of men
who have really studied the problem and know the life educated men who live in the east end coming forward and emploring the community to restrain its altruistic impulses of charity benevolence and the like
they do so on the ground that such charity degrades and demoralizes they are perfectly right charity creates a multitude of sins
that's it that's it
for me
he goes beautiful soul
we summarizing this sentence
it is much more easy to have sympathy with suffering
then it is to have sympathy with
thought
and of story
mmhmm
i have a
question from the chat if you don't mind
gar marks
how do you think the gig economy can be unionized
for examplere how do you unionize drivers because i feel like you're trying to impose order when there is n
in that case
i don't even think were drivers want to be unionized
but how would you do it
for example but i'm open to what would you have to say
no i di' i din't talking to me i sa no no no no just the guy check
because he's saying we're not being fair to unions
and i also mentioned
i don't think the ga economy can be unionized
but i could be wrong
maybe i'm missing
yea i mean honestly there are very basic physical problems with the g academy and you literally cannot
union unioniz them in the classical sense
i mean
for sure i think what you can do with the gig economy is maybe you can establish standards political
right ok on a political level but
creating an economic union
i don't think works in the in the digital age
comes
seventh
online if even possible that's interesting so you can somehow do it online but how were should be an open source i agree with that especially times ok dud
i think uh this is our time no
ma maybe our discussion is coming to an end now
yeah i think so too our stream has been going on for a long time and
okay do i fuck in lave okay come back
you towo man g always a pleasure
always a pleasure to have conjit on the stream
always an interesting conversation always an interesting dialectic and i love
all right man see later
i wasn't thinking whatboutver specifically but the general trend that people have
very short terms employment in lower end jobs reachs rental wre you're right
right so
i think there's a reason for that i think it's because the site of socialization isn't at the workplace
that's my view
appreciated ined
man ar going whenever yeah ginji
is such an interesting guy gs you know he's
he's one of the few people that i can just talk to when he gets
it's a combination of being educated and not being arrogant
he's educated but he also doesn't bullshit around like a lot of academic
you know so hes he's perfect he's the perfect type of guy
throg a stream
i
a
oh
on sorry
looking at something
based convo appreciate
anyone can unionize at any moment why don't they sf their class conscerts
i think haes criticisms unions last am with sage
had married
i mean we have police unions
that's the
when i think too is
unions are
part of
the apparatus
of there's a lot this like an institution in america at least right unions
it's one
site
i
legacy institutions
where the union
can be swayed to the progressive side but it's not the union is in itself going to be the center
you know
but a union isn't like in the nineteenth century it's like all this is create a union
a union is a legacy institution
almost similar
to some type of like
hasn't
commune
i know it's going to mindfolk a lot of people that i'm comparing unions
peasant communes
but they are this kind of legacy thing
mostly when they wehre they matter you know
but maybe i'm talking on my ass i know what i'm talking about which is perfectly possible
p i'm willing to have someone come and come on
and explain to me
thank
the real
thing going on that i can't i'm not seeing and
i'm open to that so don't take me for dogmatism
i know groundworks but
those are places where people are concentrated
in one place
but i think that's just one piece of the puzzle
it misses the bigger pictre
were gl yeah
i've never seen a union
well i know my age group i know people who are my age
why do you think most people disregard dialectics
i mean i must seen chomsky say
you understand
it's mostly arrogance and it's not being able to understand limits
go on lefty pool you guys are to on lefty pool
for the last fifteen minutes or you want someone else
i think i'ming to end at nine
so this is going to be up to you guys
i
i think most people disregard dialectics because it's aul tomately a type of arrogance that's trying to foreclose themselves
to the radical
unknowability ultimate unknowability
of the other that also defines
we someone who rejects dialectics basically wants to control
every
right
if you accept dialectics you're at peace with the fact
there's always going to be
reality is always going to surprise you in ways you can't preemptively account
you know
it's always going to surprise you in ways you cannot preemptively
count
for the fact
and people who reject dialectics like chomsky are utterly humiliated by the
i
union seems to have no impact
interright can we review this song
it's called and cap grind
hoh
and cap grimd
okay
let's see
and cap grind
whatever that is
yeah i'm going to go on left youopant to say
one set
i think
what haveen was ste bests for combination of meeting people at one place yeah jennifer see jennifer thinks forward guys
jennifer thinks ahead she doesn't think dogmatically you know that's exactly my thoughts too
you kids just don't remember what you used to be in america's history
no chris you're right
you're right chris you're right
you're right but i'm just saying
almost similar to a peasant commune in the nineteenth century
i'm not sure we can just bring that back
but i agree that that's a really important part of the hisory
wait hoses back to his old habits going on lefty pool
now
i haven't gone yet and i'm not going to check our thread
i'm going to check a thread that
ginji sent us
sent me
about the laook con threat
but it's up to you guys it's seven percent at best today
en capsuleing
ho
i think we need something like that yeah i agree general
agree
i go you're saying i don't think unions will be essential that as in the twentieth century but i personally can't see ho we can do without them
like i said you know
yeah i'll check her out i'll see what's going on
unions are so intore just because the union somewhere
yeah i think
this new digital economy whatever
has completely changed
how people relate to
phenomena and how they distribute their attention
and unions
almost a s like
this is going to sound so crazy you going to take me out of context in to sound stupid
but it's almost like unions
weill have to compete with jake pauls
you do' guessing what i saying why that
like unions will have to make themselves sexy like fucking
riana some
like that's just the nature of how it is n'
not that infrared can compete with riano
can
at least we have some as that
kind of like stylist
thing
you and we try to draw attention with our thumbnails and music and o
units are like a concept socialsm and communism they can exist
any point
people choose
i don't think that's true for socialsm or communism either
and it i don't think that's true you know i think i think that's the issue chris
is that
the kids hearts and minds are distributed in ways that cannot
you can't just keep
telling them to
get with the program because
that itself is economic
like
if you want to tell the kids to form unions
that itself has to pass through the attention economy thresh
thresher
and you have to compete with jake pull
no
for attention
organizing on tick talk is actually popped off
answer a visionist comi of
what the fulk and tickt
we're not that deserate
year
introducing
comun i don't want to watch the j reg video dude
don't want to
i don't like j
all right let's check out this thing on lefty pool
this is going to be a chill lefty pole
thing
not a triggered one
don't worry we're going to going to
kindest piece of puzzle marks a stop
yeah i think there's a missing understanding of
subjectivity
in marxism in the west
loc cons definitely part of that
puzzle i agree with that
yeah but i don't think he meant the brain i think he just meant
subject to
and
do the autism box mem spread
spread
spread for fift five forty subs wow
oh what about the song what's the song called cap grind
what is it called the fhulosopher
like in yellow style bucky to the stadus it left a lot people but now you won't lfrad us thought you'd see the means gos of looking dangers
thel
w did not look great to hag your birthday gret
mashter
not sir
i'm not sure
ok i think it deserves more views though
you know
but
mm not sure much
ok y that's
some of it
cas a little bit
loc
cas a little bit
m
yeah
uh
sokl was right to critique lakan
what a fucking idiot
who's the duck
who's mentioning sokl i feel bad for whoever's mentioning sokl
that dumb ass soko was like
lakan said that the physical male organ is the same as the square root of minus one what nonsense
what a fucking arrogant dumbas
so calls the biggest bitch of all time fuck and dumb shit
stupid bok
adm me you're a dumb ass
and stop having an inferiority complex at being retarded
search left peole andanth them on you to by t's get out of left peole
this is not that long
h
s can understand this
everything set on infrared for me
kidd
but i actually understand all of this i understand all of this no joke i
no joke i
no joke i do the barred subject
little a objit petite
don't be intimidated by this shit its super easy to understand maybe i'll do a stream a bout it somem
search lefty pool anthem
okay
sure
if i cringe guys who do i blame
who gets to blame
who gets the blame if i cringe
what the fucg
which one do i click
oh this one
sanders you should loenti
so como
ok
yeah i know i know you understand it
you're one of the mightes and you tanky anthem i'
nh it's just let's go the red army song right
no it's not
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not too sure about that one gy's not too sure about that
not
not too sure about the
not too sure about that
that
not too sure about that
this is like the end of the road the most
the worst part of the fucking stream is one it browsing you
this
god damn it links tot work
i don't know why i can't every time i click on the link it doesn't work
used to enjoy that song hironically
that one or the red army one that the real one
a because the left pole one is a
i don't know
i kind of want this to happen do dot youuus kind of miss trump i kind of do
i kind of missed trump
n
guys remember remember when trump was president
yes remember trump was actually the u s president
and that was like
four years uy remember that
nosbll party of
i can't finish the the contre dude my i'm so tired
i'm worn out
too worn out
sorry
yeah i missed trump to
i'm to wn i let's see the nledgeable stuff
were already accused of bem nosbles
now it's going to be
thank
oh
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jesus right worreing
exiting out of that
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little bit too far
little bit too far
ok
i
guys want to watch family guy
i
what is this
guys you know what i'm ft you want i tremble in fear
and sweat in fear
of the idea of
that when godzilla versus g comes out
in like two months
for one month i don't know what it's coming out
that king ong is going to lose to godzilla
and all of you guys in the chat are going to rub it in my face
you going to make means
of
someone
i of like voss defeating king kong and put my face on king kong
and i'm so it's like almost like i have skin in the game now
and i need godzill to i need king kong to win or i'll face
permanent humiliation
ginjed send me everything on twitter because on the chat it won't work
i actually fear that outcome
i don't know i just gave you guys that idea either i should have just
wa
you guys
yet
look at the twitter d m s you sent you didn't send any
oh you sent them five hours ago
videos unavailable
godzilla wins has has to quit infrared oh no
what's up justin wooton what's ub man you live in china
what's up man
what do you think about the aesthetic of vis on
cluster
okay
visy on
glass and hos
this is probably a leftist
this is russian hold on
me also get the other stuff
message
gn g
right
let's see what's going
china is definitely socialist yeah almost five years now
what up justin
will you
would you like to debate socialism dumb laug
i'll debate hm
why not
other btam i have like a battle plan to defeat empiricism
so itd be so easy
you know
us kept telling me about this guy right i checked out his channel and i watched almost all his videos so let's watch his d
this guy's kind of funny
let's watch this guy's bit
all right i'm going to watch all of these
b bit
what does this bef
you know you just got a class what's up real politics howre you doing
thoughts on radical empiricism
that's that american guy right what's his name
something something
how di you like him
how do we like that american guy
a got his nam
what is this beef
all right let me let me jump in on this beef and create some enemies ready even though i have any i don't care
i have nothing to do with this but to play the devil's advocate
play the devil's advocate
isn't this guy still in power
and
these guys aren't anymore
i don't know
just
not trying to take aside but
i don't know maybe i'm wrong
this is three minutes is too long
oh
hey do you
no where i can spam
i know do justin
america is totally different
totally different place even i got to be careful right now
because i can't
say
there's on the t v the will be watching mos board systm t
this guy was featured in black ops is not fucking crazy
that's fucking insane
that's crazy
crazy stuff
crazy
is in blackouts
six
sages are new like villain's a new punching bag of the show
is a new scaperoad
goofi stuff h
wow
m
if this is in russia
i can't speak down on it you know it's in russia my were
in america that might be kind of crzy
vot jessee i like just eventure a lot
you speak in german
who are these people
who are these people
crazy
sage not sage the guy sage but like the mem sage
how come leftists aren't like this in america
j wish american leftist were kind of like this
half of all easter
inside these guys
dud exactly do these are real
these are real leftist these are like real leftist you know
america w have fake leftis
these are actual real leftists
believe it or not
americans in the chat
guys
these are real lefs like this is the real thing and all the things you familiar with in america
completely fake
like this is actually real left
you know
dumbz
are you talking about
tagging achieves more than ten
i don't know dude i feel like these guys
other friends
i don't know their friends
i don't do they just have style and they have an attitude
and they carry themselves a certain way
that american leftists could not do american leftist
are masochistic
that is
masochism fetish pain fetish
and also moralizing and winding all the time
do these are real leftist because of how they carry themselves and i can tell the real leftists
these are they're about it they're not like these fake american leftists
we're always complaining about
bullshit
and whining all the fucking time
and leftism for them means like hey
don't step on that bug the bugs feelings shut up
yeah i know alexander exactly
toxic masculindy
so that's exactly what they would say here
it's exactly what left as you would say
the do like this is toxic masculinity
and it's making me feel really uncomfortable and the
they're also homophobicca it made that up to
the most mastream left we gt burg
i don't care about the suck them mean
but it's just the attitude of these people
you know it's like the attitude of the people in america
what do you think about a moral technique
bush knocked down the tower
that's
the're the guys who said bush knocked down the tower
' all i know about
dude in america these would be as accused of being fascists
i promise you this would be accused of being fascism in america
companies only works when the nationals on board with it
and njiust uss communism
i know i kind of know what you mean by national
yeah
attude
exactly
should we check the red one more time
and then call it a stream
is there anything new on the read it
let's do that
we're going to schacke the red it one more time
one more time
let me just see if there's any
i let's check the red it one last time they're going to call it
seen
gins eight hours
what up gins you
talki detected in gay
t one hundred
massad
m
okay
let's check what's coming
i saw hos from infrared at a grocery store in los and los angeles yesterday
i told him how cool it was to meet him in person
but it we to prison as i saying they said oh you're triggering me now
i was taking a back log ss ham but he kept cutting off and going ha ha
closing is su fri face a memembering insaw law
and i walked away continue my shopping and i heard him chuckle as i walked off
i saw hm to walk out the doors with a fifteen hideger books in his hands without pay
thehrot the cont very nice about a professional he was like ser you need to pay for those first and kept pretending i saw this mean before
right but let me just see what you're the
whatever the
i
scanning multiple times and you stop he and told you to scan them each individually
to prevent any electrical interference and then turn around and winked at me
and it's a word
she's scanned
true story by the way this actually is true
it actually did have
why did you
why did you come in for a stream as a white nationalist on your burner account
that wasn't me that was patricia
yeah
that's fucking incredible dude
strikes are here we go it's sage
howses and
dude they're all sage it's literally the feds sage is a fed
new mm sage is a fucking fed he's the i d f guy
he's the fucking filthy it's literally sage dude it's literally saye
it's literally say
dude this is a fulking fed
this is a fucking fed this is a balking fed i don't care i'm convinced now how can it be so many balking people doing the same tactics in the same balking shit this is a balcking
fd
in the fucking fed
thinks they know me psychologically
and think that i'm going to take debate and i'm going to
this fed wants me to goe lefty pool
and exhaust all my energy
writing
in corresponding with this fucking person because they want to stop infrared nice try fed nice try mossad nice try cia nice tried you glow we has baging to work
this streams going to keep on running a wasting no energy on that lefty bull thread so i can take the wae so i can take the energy and take it away from the sre streams going to keep on rolling you're not going to stop this you' not going to killus our great obit
we are going to buck and grow
nothing even do about it
bds you bought
lowi mos side beach i'm convinced this
literally a feed
literally afect
literally a fed he said go literally a fed
swear to god this is a fed i promise you i promise you this is a fed
thinking they're using psychological tactics
guys
i literally know what's going on
this is literally a fed
trying to use psychological manipulation
to waste my energy
from the stream
i swear
i'm almost certain of
maybe i'm wrong
they don't want
but this is really big glowy shit
tell me what guys it makes sense of this for me makes sense of this for me
sage calls himself a maoist
and who wants protracted people's war that's very glowy
because gloi's always want people to go
do dumbshit
by the way that w'll get him arrested
so that's a kind of glowy thing
then he's also a mossad guy
posting pro israel propaganda
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then
he's that
strikes or direct action mean to kind of aggravate me then he wants me to come on lefty pool and debate him
to
take the energy away from the stream and have me stream less often
so i can type
that's crazy twelve to thirty two it's crazy
connect those dots for me guys and then it's also filthy insurrectioni ist
who wants to get a rise out of me through the racism stuff
connect the dots guys
connect the dots
net
the dot
connect the fking dots
what is going on here
how do all those things connect guys
connect the fucking dots
i don't know if this is glowy shit
but it kind of seems like
loway
i don't know do
i don't know it seems like glowing
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but little did you know this is also sages the facade these are all this these are literally all the same people
this is all the same person
these are all the same people
this is literally all the same people
sage too is
this is age three
dude
next yeah exactly next thing i'm going to find out is that this is also neat
how many of you are saye
how many of you are safe
where does it end where does the fucking end am i crazy or what
whre is fucking and
where does this andend they're all saf
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almost every single one is sa
i'm gonna i'm goinga open the stream one day and i'm goninga fukn see neat spam stri strikes a direct action
dude
i don't know i don't know i don'tus to say
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thud the mossad guy started saying strikes or direct action it's all fucking safe
that so
it's literally all see
i don't know what to say
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i think that's it right
yeah that his
yeah guys join this let me see if other people joined
i think you're all joined
pretty much in this who are in the stream you've already joined
do join this base thats read it this read it so much fun
it's so much
our guys
it looks like
it looks like we've got to
yeah
yeah dude that's crazy it's almost kind of weird it's like
they're actually all the same person
literally all the same person
that is really sauce
really suce not going to lie you guys
super sauce
to prepare
i agree
i agree
i definitely agree alexander i am going to prepare better
sorry about that guys
definitely going to be more preparation
for the next one
i'm going to make a poll for our next edgy stream
actually i want to make the poll right now just so you guys have the opportunity
to vote
actually it's going to be ok let's just
what should the topic of our next edg you stream be
i want to do the imperialism one
we're going to run this for two days three days
forty
three days
right for three days
m going to tweet this out
put this right here
so yes can see
i guys it's going to have to call it to night
but
this was an awesome stream i had a lot of fun actually i love the stream a lot
and see you guys later
this was a really nice