Social Democracy is the Vanguard of Imperialism

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look at patrick s look at patrick s in

my chat 175 views wow

patrick s

be honest

be honest be honest with us

are you fat

are you fat

just yes or no tell us if you're fat or

not

let him answer let him answer

i i just want to know

is he fat

be a fat one

he's giving me fat guy vibes

so answer the question yes or no patrick

are you fat

i'm gonna give you one more chance to

answer the question

because it seems like you're avoiding it

seems like you're avoiding the question

are you fat

waiting

waiting

waiting

awfully silent for a non-fat person

awfully silent for somebody who's not

fat

if you ask me

yeah he's bad i knew it i knew it i knew

it i knew it i knew it

i knew it see

there you go chad he said yes i'm fat

i knew it

fat bitter

angry at the world cuz let me tell you

why patrick

there's no healthy looking person

there's no person who's healthy

sits on their computer in someone else's

chat trying to talk shit

now you could debate me if you wanna if

your goal is to destroy haas just debate

me and win that's all you'd have to do

nobody's ever been able to do that just

gotta get in my vc debate me and

literally win an argument with me win an

argument

prove i'm wrong that's all you got to do

nobody can do that challenge my

knowledge of marxism challenge my

knowledge of anything

challenge my knowledge of heidegger

challenge my knowledge of this challenge

my knowledge of hagel like this is these

are all the things you'd have to do you

could only have to do that

but you have to you sit in my chat and

what do you say you what do you talk

about

i'll tell you why because you're a fat

loser it's part of your obesity you're

like a fat bitter loser who's a grown

man by the way

sitting on your computer on your

keyboard

talking shit in another man grown man's

chat

and it seems like you you know that i

was in law school which means you're a

long time stalker that means me a 25

year old grown man

has occupied that much room in your head

as in a fat adult man

you are literally a fat adult male who

has been thinking about me

for at least a year

you fat bitch

you are a fat

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loser

it's easy to make you angry at me

patrick patrick patrick

i'm not uh

i'm not fucking brad pitt i'm not a

hollywood celebrity i'm not kanye west

i'm literally

i'm literally some niche guy on the

fucking internet you know so much about

my background that you know

i was in law school and i did a year of

law school

that's how much you know about me

you the fact that you know that much

about me and you spend your time

trying to chat shit in my chat

that proves i knew you were fat patrick

i knew you were a fat fuck

i knew it

fat

patrick patrick s

why don't you get in my vc get my

vc don't you get in my vc i mean clearly

you know enough about me you spend

enough time thinking about me you spend

enough time on your keyboard trying to

do shit so why don't you get on my vc

and and we'll we'll hash this out there

i mean

it's not like you've got anything better

to do

right so go ahead and get my vc

patrick

patrick s

s for supersize me

um

i mean like once in a chat if you think

patrick is a fat fuck

he's a fat fucking loser and a bitch who

has gyno

and is a pussy like patrick

look at all the people random people on

the internet who think this about you

look at that

patrick

that's trauma you'll never recover from

okay you can

go home

to your pillow crying at night

talking about how you trolled me and you

weren't taking it seriously this whole

time

no fat trick you put a little piece of

your ego on the line

and we just destroyed that little

you your you have no self-worth you're

literally nothing

patrick the best course of action for

you would probably

oh i don't i don't think there would be

one honestly

i have no advice for you

that's how bad it is patrick

patrick

i'm angry patrick i'm the angry one

patrick you literally

you are a hater in my chat

who literally knows personal details

about my life that only a long-term

viewer could know

i think you're the angry one patrick i

think you're the younger one i think

you're angry that i look like this and i

look like this and i'm this way i think

you're angry about it thatcher cause i

just get away with it i just get away

with it patrick

have more philosophy streams we love you

thank you ben

thank you ben i'm gonna break down what

we're gonna do today

um

patrick would you like to have a calm

uh

defense of yourself in vc would you like

to just say the things you wanted to say

in chat and vc

oh you're also a pedophile

patrick you're also a pedophile

so you've just admitted you're a grown

man who's fat

probably lives in their mother's

basement and you're a pedophile

huh

interesting interesting

one how long has it been it's been like

what two years one and a half years

you're you've been angry for over a year

about me you're still shaking and rage

about me that is sad because in that

time span

i've had a lot of fun dude i've had a

lot of fun in that time span and you

were angry about me

i mean i've had a lot life's been pretty

good to me you know

um

that's sad that's really sad

that's really sad

all you'd have to do by the way to

destroy haas just debate me and win

that's all you have to do debate me

prove my lack of knowledge about

something

demonstrate

you know in real time i'm not talking

about taking a clip out of context like

in real time demonstrate i don't know

what i'm talking about come say hey goal

or marks hiding or anything that's all

you have to do to end this all you have

to do is do that

but instead you're a fat pedophile

coping

that's really sad

that's really sad

by the way how could i go back to law

school

if i got kicked out of law school

because i flunked out and i failed law

school

i don't know how i'd go back because

apparently

i i failed law school so i have no way

to go back to law school

that's sad

i didn't say you got kicked out of law

school

yeah but that's that's uh

what's going on is it

that's what everyone's saying i got

kicked out of law school i failed out

i i failed law school

all right patrick um

you are clearly a degenerate loser

who will not actually come into the

light of day

and debate me

um which is sad because you dedicate so

much mental energy to me

in your life

uh but you won't just debate me and and

actually talk about

the problems right what criticisms could

you possibly have with me right

you know a lot of people think has i'm

not open to criticism no you can

literally get in my vc and try to

critique me on literally anything

you know

you can try to critique me on anything

yeah

well patrick it's sad that uh you're not

gonna you're only gonna be known as a

fat pedophile for like the rest of your

life

so and there you and you you also used

your real name dude which is so stupid

like your name is patrick s you came to

my chat using your real name

patrick s

talking all this shit wow really

smart again if you've got the energy to

dedicate so much sieve against me

you can just debate me you know you can

just get in vc and there

okay anyway

check the show cue

this patrick s

this them

hello

are you patrick s

what's up what's going on

reactionary so i just want to know like

we can't talk about this right now all

right this is not on the agenda so

yeah we're not talking about the mean

and i just i'm not just here to talk

about anything guys i'm not just here to

talk about anything okay

um

i'm not sincere to talk about anything

so yeah

but okay this is this is what we're

gonna get into today so i'm gonna talk

about

social democracy

and i'm trying to think if i should do

it before or after

i cover

rtsg's debate with hunter avalone which

is like um

44 minutes right 44 minutes rtsg's

debate with hunter avalon i don't know

which one i'm gonna cover first right

i don't know which one i'm gonna cover

first

i don't

i think after would be smarter wouldn't

it wouldn't it

i think after would be smarter how about

we do this how about we do like

beginning a little bit introduction and

cover the rtsg shit then afterwards we

uh we we

talk more about it right all right so

ladies and gentlemen right

yay petrol petrol wins in columbia

hooray

hooray

new amuta is celebrating i mean let's

look at nuemutu's thread on twitter

or fuck fuck it i don't want to do that

um where's that picture of like him and

his vp and they're all

happy together

petrol wins

hey hooray

petrol

petrol

petrol aha the left's winning

well just like boric the left

let me fucking shit on your parade right

now petro is a fucking soros chill

and if he's not which he is

his fucking vp

was part of a group that's funded by the

ford foundation received usaid and she

won like some

glowy ass fucking prize

this is glowing

like nothing else okay

and before you say some shit like

but you're saying the alternative was

better i'm not saying anything i'm just

saying

this is the soros left that's starting

to win in latin america boric in chile

now this fucking guy

in in in

colombia and it seems like they're doing

the reverse ron desantis strategy in

latin america where they have candidates

that pay lip service to left-wing

populism

but are actually just these woke shills

that are promoting the de-growth sweden

agenda

in latin america

and this is something that kind of got

me started to think

fuck i i don't know i just said

something makes sense

this is something that's gotten me to

start thinking about why it is that the

western left

loves loves these sock them

you know

pink tied 2.0 latin american left stuff

and they also love morales a lot right

too

why are they so obsessed with them why

don't they have the same appreciation

for nicolas maduro

that they do for boric and and you know

i'm not saying

morales is is on the same level as these

shills because morales isn't a shill i'm

not calling michelle he's not a puppet

bolivia is not a shill of anyone i don't

think

but there's clearly a reason why

leftists love bolivia across the board

as opposed to venezuela there's there's

a pretty clear reason for that

and that reason is very simple

i want you guys

to think about something else why is the

left overwhelmingly more sympathetic to

vietnam

than it is to china

want to test it go to twitter and say

that

china was actually the one who's

justified in the sinnoh vietnamese

border conflict of 1979. go on twitter

and try arguing that well chen wei hua

who the western left is used to like

praising and gassing up and they love

him in every other circumstance said

that and they all jumped on him and they

said oh chen weiwa you're so wrong about

this china was in the wrong

so it seems like there's a pretty

consistent threat right if vietnam good

china not as good and then and then that

fucking liar and that fraud hakeem

does something pretty similar

where you know it's weird hakeem on the

one hand kind of

tries to defend the ussr but notice what

what which ussr does hakeem defend by

the way

it's the khrushchev

host and post stalin ussr that hakeem

pays special attention to

so keep that in mind but it's this weird

coupling between

revisionist ussr nostalgia by

revisionist i mean post stalin ussr

nostalgia

plus

in alignment with global third world

social democracy

what the fuck is going on

no we're not even dealing with

trotskyism right now okay

this is something arguably worse

this is something actually arguably

worse

okay

now you've not you might have noticed

that there's there's some kind of

dispute that appears to be raging among

bread two

okay face superstructure stop spamming

in the chat i saw your your comment in

the chat

i saw your comment okay

stop don't ever spam in my fucking chat

yeah hakeem will never debate me right

but

the debate that's going on within bread

tube right now between fosh and the libs

and the globe emoji rose emoji part and

the so-called marxist leninist it's a

debate between

um pro-nato social democracy and

tropical social democracy which is

anti-imperialist

now

let me go ahead and break down and

explain to you

what the anti-imperialism of the

tropical sock dems actually amounts to

okay

now

when most people hear the word

anti-imperialism

what do they think

what are they thinking

i think what they're thinking is

something like the ewoks from star wars

resisting the empire yay

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we're anti-imperialists

and we've got our spears in the jungle

and it's avatar

and then you fucking got your spears in

the jungle and then you know the

military the militarized machine is

coming to destroy the environment

and then you know the natives are

fighting back and and it's just like

anti-imperialism hooray

well believe it or not

there was actually inspiration for those

ewoks in star wars

and it was the vietnam war

star wars was about the vietnam war

believe it or not

and darth vader

and the empire that was nixon

george lucas look it up he admits it

right that was literally the inspiration

so something happened in the 60s or the

70s

where the hippie movement

regardless of their political

affiliation towards communism or

socialism even

kind of unanimously started to oppose

the vietnam war because they saw it as

this you know the man and the military

machine is going into the jungles and

killing the natives

and the ruling class

artistic cultural economic and political

that would follow in the decades after

were these same people that were in the

anti-vietnam war protest movement

if you didn't know this bill clinton and

hillary clinton both have a background

in protesting the vietnam war and i can

name several others

so something weird is clearly going on

where

it seems like that type of

anti-imperialism basically became

consensus

as far as the political and general

establishment is concerned so how do we

make sense of all those things right

well the first thing we have to point

out and notice

is that

the star wars narrative of imperialism

or let's just say the vietnam war

paradigm of imperialism yeah

that is dead okay that has long been

dead

i mean that one that much has been clear

since the persian gulf war of 91

but if you have some kind of idea of

some all-encompassing military machine

you know fighting against the natives in

the forest and they're invading them for

their resources into the reason movies

like avatar are box office hits

they're not substantive critiques of our

current status quo they're critiques of

a past status quo that neoliberalism has

overthrown

imperialism does not or i should rather

say very rarely in the contemporary age

take the form of just invading countries

wholesale to take their resources

okay

now even the iraq war which was waged by

george w bush now you shit lib lefties

can try to rewrite what happened during

the iraq war all you fucking want okay

but i remember there's a big distinction

between the vietnam war and the iraq war

and that distinction was the fact

that when it came to the iraq war there

was a unanimous agreement by both the

hippie liberals and the conservatives

that

saddam is a saddam's regime

is brutally oppressive against women and

the islamic backward religious there's

two religious man loosen up man have

some pot mans loosen up and it's like

they combine the hippie sentiment of the

the counterculture with some kind of

militarism right and i remember what the

neocons were saying about oh we need to

spread freedom and democracy and and

this was not cold war rhetoric because

cold war rhetoric wasn't cultural right

when they invaded vietnam that was okay

we need to contain communism

structurally geopolitically okay but the

iraq war had it had a very clear

cultural bent that was the inheritance

of the new left and the counterculture

a very clear cultural bent even the iraq

war in other words which is like the

prime example of u.s imperialism that's

used

even that did not fall within this

hippie new left

paradigm of what imperialism is which

was the vietnam war

now i want i want to be clear

okay

you can quote me on this and quote me

and send this as a letter as far and

wide as you want get me canceled on

twitter i'd love it right

the anti-war vietnam

the anti-vietnam war protesters won

they destroyed the man and the machine

they won they overthrew

that specific version of imperialism

and and neoliberalism also overthrew it

absolutely

anyone who's positioning themselves as

an anti-imperialist drawing inspiration

from the vietnam war and the

anti-vietnam war movement

yeah those people are not

anti-imperialists whatsoever because

those people have been very easily

assimilated

and integrated into the military state

machine

it's literally them it's literally them

in power right now those same fucking

people okay

and i'll tell you why that was

and here's my critique of the hippie

movement in general the anti-war

sentiment in the 1960s and 1970s wasn't

revolutionary

that was sentiment based in the

counterculture and cultural morality it

wasn't actually based in the interests

of the working class or the proletarian

class

in other words

the anti-war and anti-vietnam war

movement in the 60s and the 70s didn't

actually base itself in a working class

movement based on the material interests

of the working class

which is indispensable for creating an

actual anti-imperialist movement it

rather based itself on the moral

sentiments

of a new kind of middle class

professional managerial class

in general

as students and so on and so on it was

based in the morality of civil society

or the morality of what karl popper

would call the open society

now does that mean i'm against

the anti-war sentiment no i'm just

saying that that anti-war sentiment

based today should pornography be legal

so i i went on stream labs and i made

the fucking stream alerts thing

more than two dollars and it's just not

fucking working apparently like

this doesn't fucking work

give me a second

give me a fuck

because i don't know why it doesn't

fucking work i at this point i am really

at a loss for why this does not fucking

work

okay

oh

this is why

okay there we go

all right this is why

okay

perfect

all right it's updated

i adopted

all right we're good okay

we're good

so anyways i was trying to say

the anti the anti-vietnam war protest

movement was not actually about the

vietnam war at all it's about an

internal shift within the united states

where a new class of you know kind of

middle class

open society class

of civil conscientious

social democracy

right was asserting itself

over the kind of you know

industrial

machine state

the fortis state as we know it

uh that that came into existence around

the 1920s right so from the 1920s to

let's say the 50s

america was kind of characterized or was

kind of evolving into or was taking the

form or shape of an industrial

tortoise state okay so by the time

the vietnam war happens

the widespread anti-war sentiment is not

being based in anything relating to the

actual war or the material causes of u.s

intervention in that war which by the

way was not based

in you know

it wasn't simply based on wanting to

extract resources the whole extractivism

model of imperialism it's it it's a

fucking sham

it's completely unreliable for

understanding anything about the world

the key was bretton woods right the

whole thing about containing communism

was because communist states were

resisting being integrated into the

bretton woods a global economic system

which was a threat to what in the eyes

of the you know planners of that system

a threat to global economic stability

and the maintenance of the global

capitalist system

so that's that's why it actually

happened but the anti-war sentiment was

not actually about the war

it was about something going on inside

the united states

and those new left people who

characterized the protest movement

eventually became the people who are in

power now

okay

what was the proletarian class position

on vietnam war during that time

um

libertarian isolationism

anti-globalism

anti-interventionism

that that was a that was a position

marxist during that time

never even fucking bothered to develop

uh because they were dogmatic and stupid

and they were getting too excited about

all these dumb ass little students with

flowers in their years coming

in love and they they thought that this

summer representativity is exaggerated

in modern media and american conscious

all contemporary polls show that war

approval was always at least 50 yeah

well that that was nixon's silent

majority

and i think the approval for the war

was not so much about the war itself as

much as it was about

um

this internal counterculture going on in

the country between the hippies

and you know this older fortist kind of

boomer working class

again the war the people behind the war

had nothing to do with this right the

war is happening either way because the

people who are responsible for this war

are these bretton woods you know

planners

but the like it's like it's almost like

the simulation thing bottlart was

talking about right

the way in which that the war was

presented to americans

there's a radical discontinuity between

the two things right

the war at home is some cultural shit

the real

like structural causes and things

sustaining that war

we're totally and entirely different

thank you so much for the ray jackson

appreciate you so much man

appreciate you so much

so yeah i mean that that's pretty much

what we're dealing with in that case you

know

now yeah and there's the draft and shit

too but what you're looking at at that

time is the breakdown of the florida

state so like modern day where most of

antifa is just white middle-class kids

trying to spite their parents yeah

exactly thank you so much light

thank you so much light for those

blue

super chats appreciate you man

appreciate you so much

but anyway um

so what am i trying to say with all this

i'm trying to say

that

something was changing during the cold

war something strange was taking shape

globally globally speaking because it

wasn't just the anti-war movement

you've taught me so much and you stay

human for that

yellow 10.

thank you man

i'm seeing yellow in the chat thank you

man

so yeah that that movement

was within the broader context of the

emergence of something different now

here's here's what i'm going to theorize

what that was right

american globalism architecturally was

taking shape during the post-war period

bretton woods

um all these new alliances worldwide

this this newfound economic integration

the new role of the city of london banks

and all that kind of stuff so the change

in the cultural superstructure that

corresponds to that change

was taking the form of the new left and

the counter culture the beatles and all

that shit basically right so it seemed

like it was avant-garde and totally

revolutionary

last analysis good morning revolution

brother it seems like that was taking um

form as a resistance against all this

when that was actually just the

superstructure adjusting to the base

okay so that's what we're dealing with

and that's what was going on during that

period

okay

now what all that basically means when

you boil it down

is

it has not really been analyzed

to what extent

the

synthetic left

is not just the synthetic left but just

the left in general in the post-war

period literally just represents

the bretton woods globalists who wanted

to undermine america's sovereign

institutions in every respect right

and the in a lot of ways the anti-war

sentiment was false opposition because

the same forces that seemed like they

were behind the counter culture were

also behind the vietnam war itself so

you have this strange circumstance where

resistance is the false opposition the

the revolutionary hippies are actually

the people

representing these globalist

you know

post-war social engineers and planners

who thought that america's thank you

rocks off so michael hudson said that

anti-vietnam war sentiment came from

wall street because the u.s was losing

its gold deposits to

good morning revolution general we're

seeing that orange in this chat thank

you brother

thank you so much good morning

revolution more revolutionary mario

that's a mirio in that

chat thank you so much

but anyways i was saying

i was oh we're heating up in here we're

heating up okay it's getting a little

hot all right

but anyways i was trying to say

with regard to the vietnam war and the

anti-war sentiment

um it really appears

one way and the reality is entirely

different

and the globalists in the immediate

post-war period were seeing

america's older fortist institutions and

fortist culture and this kind of

machinery as completely outdated and and

somehow needing to be circumvented and

once they did that we had the

neoliberalism that happened immediately

after

reagan and all that thatcher i mean

there's a there's a direct pipeline from

the new left to reagan and thatcher and

these kind of neoconservatives right a

direct pipeline okay

so what is the hidden handsolution

oh my

oh my g off thank you so much brother

so there's this hidden hand going on

basically

right a hidden hand

and oh we got a lot of members in the

chat today a lot of members in this chat

today but anyway the hidden hand here at

least politically

is social democracy

that's the hidden hand now we should

recall

what relationship social democracy had

to imperialism as lenin pointed it out

as early as what as early as

um

the early 19th early 20th century like

the night

1916 or 1914

he wrote

g off with another 50 wow

wow

wow

wow

wow

thank you g off

thank you g off appreciate you man

thank you giov

but yeah as i was saying

um

you've got that circumstance

of a complete

uh

a complete hidden hand of social

democracy realistically

how much influence would you say the

israel lobby had in the iraq war and

libyan decapitation coming to fruition

a very large influence keeping that

gravy train going thank you you deserve

it gee

people like you jackson and kayla make

me excited and hopeful for our future

thank you

man what do you think or roxanne dunbar

ortiz and settlerist analysis what about

indigenous issues

yeah i'm sorry to tell you this but

there's the the people who have a

monopoly on indigenous issues are the

globalists

sorry not sorry

i'm not saying indigenous people don't

have legitimate interests they do but

there's a clear monopoly on

representation of the indigenous

difference

happy 17th to my fave black streamer

joe sims hashtag infrared thank you

jackson

for the 10.

but i should be paying you money jackson

because you're the one who raids me all

the time

right

so i gotta pay you back for that

but um

yeah that's what i have i'm sorry to

tell you regarding indigenous there's

real indigenous issues i'm not denying

that but the institutions who represent

them i mean that is overwhelmingly

serving the interest of the globalists

and global social democracy whose eye

and whose center is fucking sweden and

that's what we're going to talk about

off topic but i need this answered us

what do you think of democratic computer

based

keep the talk about the post 60s up not

enough political types understand this

period oh i am thank you so much easy i

will be uh paul pott um

no comment

no comment

no comment

no comment okay

no comment

but anyway um

no no that is something we literally

cannot

you can't talk about that in the discord

don't talk about that in the discord

first of all that's banned in the

discord and y'all got to chill in in the

youtube as well okay that's something

y'all gotta really chill on that there's

some guys there's some things gotta tell

you this there's some things we'll we'll

just have to be quiet about forever okay

there's some things we just should not

talk about at all

but yeah vietnam's great and they never

did anything wrong vietnam's never done

anything wrong

vietnam is a bastion of

it's a bastion of uh socialism and yeah

uh yeah

vietnam go vietnam

okay anyway

um

as i was trying to say

as i was trying to say uh

yeah okay continuing about this issue of

social democracy i think there's a lot

of people who don't understand what

social democracy is

and they tend to only look at social

democracy and the economic side of

things say social democracy is when

everything isn't nationalized and you've

got some markets no that's not what

social democracy is social democracy is

primarily political okay i want you to

hammer that in your head social

democracy is primarily

political primarily political so the

opposition is not between the planned

economy and a market economy

thank you rocks off on a totally

unrelated note the chinese emperors

buried the scribes gorilla sun totally

thank you unrelated

thank you for that

but um

as i'm trying to say though

uh

you've got an issue where

no it's not primarily economic it's not

primarily economic it it's not even

about bribing the workers

believe it or not

social democracy and i have to give you

a rough history of what social democracy

is basically

in order to give this the full breadth

and attention that it deserves i'm gonna

give you a kind of rough history right

so social democracy emerges in parallel

with the rise of the german state right

bismarck is doing all this shit with his

wars and whatever

and then on on the other hand you have a

guy named ferdinand la soleil right and

lazily he's looking at marx's ideas and

he's kind of looking at other ideas and

he's saying

oxygen is a correct science it's a true

science but

we need to build a political movement

right so before

the bakuninis and the anarchists and

other communists and other people they

were not so much

interested in a political movement they

were interested in violent political

revolution they were interested in

economic struggles through trade unions

and syndicalism and no cynicalism didn't

really take full form in the late 19th

century um

you had those kind of variants right

whereas nobody was really interested in

building an actual political movement

right so it just so happened that marx's

faction of the iwa

the international working men's

association would eventually evolve to

possess the position that there is a

necessity of building a political

movement and that there somehow has to

be this unity between the political

movement on one on the one hand right

and the workers movement which is

primarily based in trade unions and

trade union consciousness on the other

hand okay so you had this you had these

primarily bourgeois

states um

like bismarcks which were not social

states they were not states that were

welfare states or concerned with the

everyday working man's well-being so

this is what basically happens right

there's a workers movement in the form

of trade unions and other things on the

one hand and then there's something

called social democracy which is

emergence on the other hand which wants

to unite the political aspect of we need

these reforms

to make life you know

more um

more hospitable to the workers

we need to have economic reforms that

benefit workers

um things like that you know we need to

we need we need changes that will help

the working class we need a minimum

program

for what we want to implement

liberal democracy is neither liberal nor

democratic true dan thank you so much we

need a movement which is on the one hand

going to you know

um

represent we need a minimum program

which is going to like implement

immediately what are the immediate tasks

of what we do when we take power and

there's also the maximum program which

is like more like you know the communist

manifesto kind of thing of like

achieving socialism and and all that

yadda yadda stuff right so basically

when social democracy emerges which is a

name that marx and engels

did not choose and as a matter of fact

they hated the name social democracy

um but they excused it

and they didn't make it the primary

contradiction but it was their

preference they hated that name

um

the basic idea is that there's a

political reform movement

for democracy in

germany at the time

and you know germany is a kind of

autocratic

russian you know younger aristocratic

state

where there's not much political

liberties there's not a constitution a

clear constitution

there's not really a lot of political

democracy or political freedom

so in addition to the demands of the

liberal bourgeois reformers the idea is

coined of okay you want democracy in the

political sense we want to take it

farther

and we also want a social democracy we

want democracy in a social sense meaning

like in an economic sense we want the

economic system to somehow benefit

you know

other people living here nothing wrong

with that what's wrong with that nothing

absolutely not right

but

so just in the name you get a whole lot

right

so but the main thrust of it was

basically this uniting of the

reform movement for democracy the

struggle for democracy with the economic

movement

of the working class

um

in the form of trade unions and in the

form of the union movement those were

not things that were inherently united

believe it or not

but

originally conceived the ideas of social

democracy was basically it's kind of

like to build hegemony we need to build

this workers movement

that will get so big and it'll it'll

become so um

extensive throughout society

and vast in scale

that eventually it will be like a

political hegemon

that can sufficiently have the power to

overthrow

state

that was the idea of social democracy

more or less right

originally originally that was the case

the idea was there's a minimum program

and a maximal program and more or less

the idea is we have to build up this

political movement first once we build

up the political movement then we will

have laid the basis for a revolution

and you know the political movement in

question is also going to be satisfying

the everyday

needs of people so a lot of people look

at the black panthers and they're like

you know the breakfast program for kids

that's so revolutionary so great yeah

but that started with social democracy

that's what they the social democrats

would do they would

literally fulfill functions of people

in everyday functions right they would

fulfill a lot of cultural functions

they'd have cultural clubs they'd have

summer camps for the youth kids all that

kind of stuff and they were they were

basically this

this this like um shadow society right

so on the one hand you have the official

society and the social democrats are

starting to fill the vacuum

uh in terms of building this kind of

civil society right

now

that's all great they're doing a great

job the german social democrats they're

the most successful out of anyone

right by the end of boxing english's

lives

now

so

here's the funny thing is that um

you know there's this kind of

revisionism started to rear its head

uh

already in the

early 20th century like bernstein were

kind of like huh you know what

we're seeing so much success

workers lives seem to be like they're

getting better there's the growth of the

middle class

and this middle class is a huge

repository of people who are becoming

the leaders of the social democratic

movement i think marx was wrong

we need to go towards an evolutionary

socialism rather than a revolutionary

socialism so that's bernstein right

and then after bernstein it's just you

keep getting more and more of these

kinds of revisionists who are starting

to interpret the meaning of social

democracy differently than originally

conceived which is basically like hey

we've built this kind of economic civil

society we're starting to gain

concessions from the state

to implement these political reforms

the revolutionary path is done right

now lenin would obviously point out when

he writes

you know not only when he writes

imperialism in the highest states when

he writes his polemics against the

second international and others

and

you know lenin is going to point out

that

there's also a unique relationship to

imperialism now all right social

democracy becomes

attached to the imperialist state it has

a special relationship with the

imperialist state in order to bribe the

workers on the ground

um fracking is good what is incorrect

can you tell me what is incorrect about

what i'm saying go just fucking type

incorrect in the chat make a fucking

argument

anyway

um social democracy is being used as not

only this form of bribery

against the working class

sorry towards the working class to get

their consent for imperialism

it's also becoming this way in which

society was becoming institutionalized

society is becoming increasingly

institutionalized

to get people to socially conform

to this new imperialist state and lenin

is violently against this if you read

lenin's imperialism he's kind of half

sympathetic with the kind of classical

boudoir liberals that are protesting

this you know people like that that one

guy keep forgetting i always forget his

name that he decides like the classical

bourgeois liberal simply wants to return

the normal bourgeois democratic state

and this is not possible imperialism

going above and beyond the bounds of

democracy but what a lot of people don't

recognize is that

the way in which the bourgeois state is

going above and beyond the bounds of

democracy is also

it through social democracy social

democracy is creating these institutions

that are also going above and beyond

normal bourgeois statehood and normal

bourgeois capitalism

you know to the ire of kind of

libertarian classical liberal

laissez-faire kind of capitalists are

kind of like saying hey you know this is

increasing the government's power to an

extent that's not justified before

what marxists don't understand

especially the new ones who are emerging

in the united states in the past decades

or they don't realize that there's a

huge libertarian undercurrent to lenin's

critique lenin is kind of aligning

himself with that

in in a sense right with that kind of

libertarian idea of hey this imperialist

state is going above and beyond normal

capitalism

uh and lenin identifies and he he

incriminates social democracy in the

same way that he incriminates the

increasing powers of the police and the

military and the increasing use of extra

legal means by which these wars are

being justified in order to crack down

on political dissent at home so lenin

has this kind of libertarian angle to

him now where lenin disagrees with the

libertarians is that lenin basically

says we cannot return back to the

classical democracy libertarians can't

just return back to a time when none of

this existed this is now proving that

the conditions are ripe for the need of

a proletarian dictatorship

right which is going to smash this

entire machine including the social

democratic machine and refound the state

on an entirely new principle

and that's lenin's argument the need for

a proletarian dictatorship

but that's something a lot of people

don't know

or don't understand what is a

proletarian dictatorship and why is it

impossible for us to step from social

democracy to proletarian dictatorship

why are these things fundamentally at

odds

and that's what i'm going to kind of

talk about

uh

thank you chris bernstein

and the german socialists never read

volume 3 published in 1895.

they knew how capital was made but not

how it was distributed no theory of rent

or falling rate of profit you're

absolutely correct

you're correct especially on the rent

part they had no understanding of rent

or its significance why they weren't

able to anticipate or understand what

was going on with imperialism so you're

right yeah absolutely right

but anyway

good morning revolution good morning

revolution emirio

wow thank you so much

so much amir

anyway

as i'm basically trying to say here

right

something is going on

where

you have social democracy

being positioned in such a way that it's

not only it's not only a bug that the

social democrats are selling out to

imperialism it's a feature because

imperialism necessarily is relating to

the internal economic sphere in a social

way not just because there's a need to

bribe the workers or any of this kind of

stuff but there's also a need to

institutionalize the workers and

institutionalize their loyalty to the

state

through direct forms of economic

dependence

it's not just bribery in a cynical way

it's also institutionalization

right

and so when you hear the word social

democracy guys i want you to keep that

word in mind right institution keep that

word in mind because the essence of

social democracy whether it's going to

take the form of bernstein's revisionism

all the way up to karl popper's idea of

the open society

is this

socialism based on democratic

institutions

that's what social democracy is okay

it's a socialism that's based on

democratic institutions

okay so more or less skipping a lot of

stuff

because i just want to give you the

broad history

social democracy

prevails

everywhere

okay it prevails everywhere including in

fascist italy and fascist germany the

nazi party completely assumes all the

functions the previous social democratic

party does

uh so does fascist italy more or less

right

but social democracy prevails in europe

um to a minor extent it prevails in the

united states

although the new deal was a little more

ambiguous i would argue

um the new deal planners were kind of

starting to commingle with international

social democracy and all these people

are starting to comprise

one managerial class one educated elite

who are trying to set the course for you

know the future of their countries these

social engineers and social planners who

are sharing ideas and sharing all this

kind of stuff it's just that

with the new deal

um they are not

inherently

uh social democrats

when i'm talking about social democracy

i am not talking about a structure i'm

talking about like

literal the same parties and

institutions and the same social

democratic international like that's

what i'm talking about here okay

so anyway um

more or less in the post-war period

um after world war ii

you have the triumph

of european social democracy england and

the european countries and elsewhere

and you also have a view right

um

you also have the legacy of this kind of

loose alliance between communists during

the 30s

and social democrats

in the form of these popular fronts but

a lot of people don't point out every

single one of these popular fronts

failed right in spain

same social democrats mean they would

eventually betray the communist

government

same thing happens in france it was

totally inept

so you've got that strange thing that

that happens and then obviously with the

communist parties after world war ii

they turn on the soviet union

because of you know solzhenitsyn or you

know khrushchev's secret speech

creates a global revisionism in

international communism or less

right

which sets for the first time i'm

skipping a lot of things

but

after the death of stalin something kind

of weird happens which is also a little

bit the legacy of the popular front

but also something more sinister's at

play as well right after the death of

stalin

53

uh and you you have the emergence of

people like khrushchev and the rest in

power

there's this new global alliance that

starts to take place okay

based young caesar thank you so much

brother

a new alliance globally starts to take

place

which is the alliance

between

soviet union eastern bloc

and international social democracy

finland sweden especially become these

kind of non-aligned countries

and institutional social democracy

you know has a profound role in

resisting

the vietnam war now i want you guys to

pay keep something in mind why wasn't

there a similar anti-korean war movement

you know in the immediate post-war

period compared to the vietnam war

because by the time the vietnam war

happens

you have this international alliance

between

you know social democrats soviet union

and then more implicitly this may be

something

that's going to sound crazy to you but

elements of the democratic party in the

united states the new deal engineers of

the democratic party in the united

states

are more aligned to the soviet union

also a big piece of this puzzle

and you guys are not ready for this

kill okay

is india

india and the global non-aligned

movement in general

the non-aligned movement becomes the

geopolitical form of global

international social democracy

india plays a profound part in this okay

and so there's this

global alliance and i'll call it the

managerial alliance

when the chinese after the sino-soviet

split were talking about social

imperialism and soviet social

imperialism

they were talking about this network and

this precise alliance actually

in their view the soviet union was

selling out to us imperialism that

sounds weird how could the soviet union

be selling out to u.s imperialism when

it's supporting the vietnamese against

the us imperialist you know invasion

and you know it's obviously

holy fuck danny jesus

we're ready magazine exposed the new

left student groups as cia backed in

1967.

also you

fuck fuck fuck the stream f

fuck me man fuck me stream left

what the fuck

what the fuck

we're back

back

because my shit just reset

on my end

that's why but yeah okay we're back back

all right we're back we're back

perfect perfect we're back okay we're

back

anyway as i'm trying to say um

that that was like too red that was too

hot that overheated the youtube system

a little too much thank you so much

daniel

that don't know

but anyway

um

so

the chinese are talking about soviet

social imperialism and also this weird

way the soviets are selling out

the american imperialists why

because american imperialism

or social imperialism in general

is starting to take a more global form

that is not reducible to us military

adventures like the ones in vietnam

it's starting to be this global social

uh imperialist unipolar power

that

at least part of the soviet union's

elites

are playing a part in in creating

around the entire world and in europe

and through the non-aligned movement and

through countries like india

okay

that is really what what they were

talking about when it came to soviet

social imperialism

except it wasn't just soviet social

imperialism it was this globalist

unipolar force

that involved the cia and it involved

the u.s deep state elements of the

democratic party especially right

in creating this global social

democratic consensus now intellectuals

like carl popper would emerge in this

same period carl popper is basically

this

logical positivist philosopher of the

open society who tells us things like

you know we can't know anything about

reality

uh outside of um

outside of like

you know discreet facts and everything

has to be falsifiable and that plato was

the first theorist of closed societies

um who's in totalitarianism it's

basically this thrust against

totalitarianism right that goes on with

popper

um

no this is not because the common turn

was dissolved this was because

there was a rotten class that emerged in

the soviet union but stalin did not have

enough time to purge

and which was in bed with international

social democracy okay

and sweden was a big part of this as

well

uh didn't china believe the ussr had

become a hitler right dictatorship yes

they said they they used that kind of

rhetoric definitely they did use that um

rhetoric okay

there was no longer a world movement no

there was a world movement it was just

led by the managerial class that's the

thing that's the weird thing there was a

movement it was just led by this very

strange managerial class okay

so anyway

um

that that that network is basically

going to take form

in coincidence with the anti-war

movement against vietnam now you notice

a lot of people are against the vietnam

war

that are not communists they're not

doing it for ideological reasons but

just as this

spontaneous expression of their class

interests right

and all these weird experi obscure

interpretations

emerge with the vietnam war which have

nothing to do with marxist theory like

the george lucas theory of of the

vietnam war which is basically that

the u.s military machine is going and

fighting the ewoks in vietnam people in

the forest who are just happy for its

people and we're just ewoks dancing in

the forest that you know this is a weird

interpretation of that war it wasn't

what's going on in the vietnam war right

that's not that's not like a

marxist materialist analysis but

that kind of ideology is amazing

mao also pointed at khrushchev's

forsaking of class struggle in the ussr

in the instantiation of its bureaucratic

class as a reification of marxism yeah

true thank you chris warlock thank you

so much yeah you're right absolutely

absolutely true

okay

so with international social democracy

taking newfound form

uh and by the way i'm not saying the

whole soviet union is incriminating you

remember the soviet union's got

different factions got the kgb

got the military apparatus

and it's also got you know

it's got other factions i'm saying this

is a faction in the soviet union

not the whole i'm not incriminating the

entire state

jackson hinkle rejects jay sakai so i

guess you do too

why what's the criticism thanks david

parker the criticism is is jasokai is

basically a fed i think i think he's

from the other underground

and what he says is just false

more or less

he's just a liar

jesus guy lies lied about things that

famous communists said like william z

foster

that's enough to discredit him but his

entire thesis that work the working

class or settlers

um

it completely neglects

um

completely neglects any any actual

marxists understanding the national

basically

it's basically the vietnam war theory of

you know a theory of marxism where the

ewoks

are being oppressed by the the workers i

mean it was only a matter of time before

someone like jay sakai emerges and

identifies the industrial working class

with these machine oppressors who are

pressing the ewoks in the forest aka for

sakai the indigenous people okay so all

that that fucking paradigm comes from

the vietnam war movement okay that whole

para paradigm

that jay sakai is arriving at comes from

the vietnam woman instead instead of

just critiquing the us military machine

he decides to critique

the industrial working class at home

we're doing the same

for the same reasons by the way

apparently khrushchev replaced a stalin

approved logic and set theory textbook

written by vinogradov and kuzmin with a

more anglo-box logic book was khrushchev

a secret trod american agent or on thing

thank you so much shone no but he was

definitely an americanizer he was

americanizer and he was firmly aligned

with the globalist institutions that

were taking shape

after the

second world war

so yeah that's something about

khrushchev we have to understand he's

firmly aligned

institute globalists

and international social democracy

okay

so

later on right the character of

international communism starts to change

allende in chile

was a democratic socialist

why

because people like allende and chile

are the fruit

of the soviet-led

you know international socialist or

communist movement

that is fundamentally rejecting marxism

it's rejecting communism rejecting the

idea of the proletarian dictatorship

and is basically kind of

adopting this paradigm instead

of

integrating socialism with the existing

institutions of the imperialist state

um

basically institutionalizing socialism

uh turning socialism into this you know

facet of global imperialism

okay

yeah i i'm sick of the people coping

about allende and and just because he's

a martyr

i don't see allende as a fucking martyr

as far as i'm concerned it's his fucking

fault for not purging his own military

you know pinochet was allende's number

one guy instead of establishing a

proletarian dictatorship like chavez did

i ended with a democratic socialist and

he was this freemason who was you know

don't don't fucking lionize a guy like

allende guys sick of the losers who want

to lionize allende

okay

that guy

that was all his fault

that that guy pinochet that did that

that was allende's number two guy that

was like his right-hand man in the

fucking military

that's all his fault

and by the way

who do you think killed olaf paulman

i don't know

kind of was going to get to that i don't

know i have no idea

all right anyway

what i'm trying to say is that

you know this force of international

social democracy that's starting to take

form

um

somewhere along the line becomes openly

and explicitly aligned with u.s

imperialism

openly and explicitly and this is after

the vietnam war and it's also after

reagan's latin american adventures

which are in part because of the legacy

of henry kissinger and nixon

because nixon and kissinger

sorry kissinger more specifically

represented the old u.s imperialist

state which was a bipolar form of

imperialism

so we're basically looking at the

transition from bipolar imperialism

right which is against the soviet union

and which is pretty much economic in

nature

thank you orville what are your thoughts

on revolutionaries like bolivar and

george washington being freemasons

that's different because those are

bourgeois revolutionary you know and

freemasonry's bourgeois but diendi is

pretending to be a marxist so that's the

problem thank you orville but what i'm

trying to say is that

what i'm trying to say is that the

american bipolar imperialism was pretty

much based on this kind of private

interests

of american economic companies i mean

plain and simple

why was nixon and kissinger against the

soviet union they weren't against the

soviet union because they were like

fulfilling or implementing this grand

globalist plan

they were doing it because they were

trying to protect the monopoly profits

of the oil companies in particular

and of the us in industries and their

enterprises

in a way they represented in my theory

would be that

nixon and kissinger kind of with their

real politic

represented the smaller capitalist class

not not the petty bourgeoisie per se

but the smaller capitalist class

within the united states as opposed to

the globalist one the financial one

that you know is really the architect

behind the bretton woods system and the

real archetype be behind the cold war

anti-communism right but

that legacy of nixon and then later

reagan

of anti-communism

is partisan within the united states the

democrats in comparison by this time

as well as the cia and the rest are

comparatively less disposed

to confront the soviet union

they're less disposed to be

anti-communist they're less disposed to

go around the world waging these wars in

latin america and elsewhere

okay

so that's what happens

um at that time so people have gotten it

entirely wrong they think nixon and

kissinger represented the imperialist

war machine at its highest and most

advanced form no

they represented american imperialism in

its most primitive form

the people who represented american

imperialism in its most advanced form

those were the rockefellers that's the

ford foundation those were the liberal

and progressive social engineers

people who are more like john f kennedy

right

those people represented american

imperialism in its highest form

because those people

were trying to um

we're trying to establish the unipolar

world order right now there's a

conspiracy theory that you were probably

familiar with growing up if you were

like me

called

the new world order where the whole cold

war was fake and both elements in the

soviet union in the us

trying to establish a new world order

together

well

i've studied the history i've looked at

the history

i have studied and looked at the history

guys

and

kind of seems like that

starting the history

okay

that's just trying to say

the avant-garde intellectuals in the

united states are not fervent

anti-soviet people right at this time

actually the theory that was mainly

popular among the us intellectual elite

was

what was it called it was called the

theory of um

fusion

fusion

well who what was that called

the people who believed in an eventual

fusion where the soviet union would take

the best aspects

of american capitalism and american

capitalism would take the best aspects

of the soviet union there's a word for

that guys what is that word

um

the few convergence theory that's what

it is

convergence theory i'm literally just

going to show it to you

i think that's what it is convergence

theory okay

let me show that to you oh it's not

that's not what it is

what are your thoughts on voice check

gerazelski in the former warsaw pact

states

alex thank you for the five i tend to

think that um i i can't speak on that

guy i don't think but what's going on in

poland is a polish partisan populism

from the partisan movement

uh

during world war ii

um

what is that fucking theory guys there's

literally a theory and carl sagan

believed in it too

cold war convergence

what is it called carl sagan believes in

it

no it's not the fucking big crunch i'm

saying the intellectual avant garde

in america at the time believe that the

us and the soviet union will converge

and it'll create world peace and harmony

you know

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what's that fucking michael jackson song

by the way

what's that michael jackson on we are

the world

we are the children

we are the ones the making man

that's what's going on okay we have this

emerging

except it's not that the soviet union is

sharing power with america and that

they're actually converging together

okay

it's that elements of the soviet union

are surrendering to international and in

particular anglo-saxon

financial capitalist

elites

that's why at the end of the soviet

union what happened they fucking sold

the whole fucking country out

to american imperialism but you have to

understand

american imperialism

and you stay human carl sagan is so

based

american imperialism isn't based on its

root

from america as a country

thank you david packard what do you

think of the restoration of capitalism

in the soviet union by w.b bland

by the way fuck carl sagan a human fuck

that guy

um i haven't read that david parker okay

anyway as i'm trying to say

you have to understand that at this time

american imperialism

is evolving into what i call unit

polarity okay

american unipolarity which has its roots

yes in the post-war period okay

it's just that its full superstructural

and political and cultural

roots

are not immediately drawn out after

world war ii

people like nixon and kissinger are

representing the kind of

you know world war ii military

industrial complex

but

the planners of the bretton woods system

after world war ii also had ambitions

for the changing

the political system at home and for the

entire world

and in that regard they were firmly

embedded

within social democracy international

social democracy which is the key to

this whole thing remember what social

what function social democracy has

always

served right not just bribing your

population

it's also

institutionalizing i mean there's i'm

trying to tell you guys something

there's a straight fucking line

between bernstein's social democracy

okay

and

the world economic forum's great reset a

straight line between them this is what

i'm trying to tell you

okay you you don't be distracted and be

thinking about other shit right now

really think about this there's a

straight line between social democracy

and the world economic forum's great

reset

thank you thank you daniel convergence

theory is from daniel bell the end of

ideology another former trot who claims

the soviet union and u.s will merge

thank you daniel yeah i think that's

what it is okay

you guys have to really really

hammer that home for yourselves

okay there's a straight line between

social democracy

and the great reset

these things are not just to bribe the

populations but to structurally

transform people's way of life

under

these democratic institutions now let me

promise by the way

what democratic means in the bourgeois

lexicon

democratic is basically talking about

open institutions that are inherently

heterogeneous

heterogeneous means different based on

differences right so democracy is

basically this kind of agnosticism which

rejects one political form it rejects

one specific

type of statehood one specific

type of um

society democracy basically means

infinite difference for differences own

sake and you know

infinite heterogeneity and that

basically corresponds to the interests

of global capital if you read the

thinking of of people like gilles de lez

the french guy

kind of like his

his philosophical theory or whatever

pretty much mirrors one for one what you

call neoliberalism people like ellen

badu and jizyk have have pointed that

out right

um

yeah the horizontal open society

whatever but what anchors the ability

for an open society to be open and this

is true if you read karl popper himself

again the intellectual forefather of

george soros

who literally founded the open society

foundation

that is going to be through institutions

and the reason it's going to be through

institutions

is that institutions abstract people

from their immediate circumstances

and from their specific national and

cultural and whatever

um realities

and basically

subordinate them to an equally abstract

heterogeneous

state okay

again this is still the bourgeois state

that serves capital

guys this isn't literally fascism okay

this is worse than fascism what i'm

talking about is worse than fascism okay

so democracy

what they mean by democracy is just this

artificial openness they maintain

which is no longer an openness of just

giving expression to our freedom right

there's an openness in the sense of okay

we're going to be open and not close off

people's ability to express themselves

okay but then there's also a type of

artificial openness which is like the

one that happens when when you know this

opens things guys this this opens things

okay so there's an artificial openness

where you're putting society you're

opening society up butchering society

with creating an open wound basically

right

and forcing

heterogeneity upon people forcing people

to be separated from their means of

production forcing people to be

separated from their ways of life

through debt among other things forcing

people to be at a distance with their

own cultures and their own nations you

know forcing people

to become this abstract kind of

formless global citizen

you know

isn't that what the reddit form of

subjectivity really is

you know

and and the reddit subjectivity is

something that only prevails

because

you know the basic substantive culture

that people kind of used to have

has basically been ripped apart and

opened right it's been opened

throughout through

the devastation of the american middle

class

the devastation of the american dream in

the american way of life the total

devastation of any semblance of cultural

norms

in a completely artificial way by the

way

not it's not just that restrictions were

lifted so that people could be more free

it's that

the ability to be a human being

has been made and rendered increasingly

impossible right you can't just be a

normal human being anymore you can't

just live a normal way of life

in a sense right

and and you know i can i could give you

a lot of examples of that like for

example when you send your kids to

school

to the public school that your tax they

tax paid dollars

pay for

right

your taxpayer dollars paid for i mean

what is your kid in school going to

learn is that is that

compatible with just living a normal way

of life

the open society is the state of

absolute alienation yeah absolutely that

you've got it

that is what that is the alienation marx

talks about by the way guys that is

exactly the alienation

talks about that's what he meant by

so yeah you're absolutely right

thank you for the five yeah you're right

okay

so you have to understand all of this

begins with social democracy which is

why

social democracy tries to

take political democracy right which is

just this formalism of abstraction and

negativity

in the sphere of the state and impose

that at the level of our social reality

our economic ways of life our cultural

ways of life that's what social

democracy is

so there is a one-to-one line between

social democracy

and the open society and the world

economic forum's great reset okay

um

now a lot of people

have

really overlooked the various disguises

social democracy started to take

around after the 1970s right

um and in particular

you know

that's more or less the paradigm that

triumphs within the soviet union itself

gorbachev

increasingly you know is convinced that

we need to become like the scandinavian

model it's the nordic model comes

elevated as like the supreme political

ideal almost every western country the

nordic model right

that's what gorbachev wanted to adopt

for the soviet union now correspondingly

something else happens in the

international communist movement

suddenly the communist parties within

europe are starting to adopt

ideas like euro communism which is one

for one imported from the revisionist

austro-marxist

social democrats of the early 20th

century that's what euro communism was

so

something something very strange happens

where

you know lenin

lenin who broke with the second

international and he broke with

international social democracy

his work was being destroyed

communism

which was which began by lenin right

communism was becoming re-assimilated

international social democracy

and therefore

within the ultimate form that

imperialism would eventually take

which is american unipolar imperialism

get this association out of your head

between imperialism and

you know going into the forest killing

the ewoks

because american unipolarity doesn't

primarily take the form of invading

countries militarily

as much as it takes the form

of things like trying to economically

encircle china

through the um

indo-pacific

economic framework

right

things like that that's i mean it's not

just sanctions either

the latest tool in the weapon of the

globalists

is international progressivism

how

well china has been trying to

um go about with this belt and road

initiative

which is the key to china's ability to

finally break free from the

international capitalist system

okay

so what's the us's strategy well foment

economic discontent

in all the countries that china is

trying to build the belt and road

initiative sri lanka is an example of

this

but also latin america

that's something a lot of people have

overlooked

in the name

by the way and the whole thing and the

relationship between social democracy

and de-growth

and environmentalism i'll explain that

as well so social democracy is

inherently inherently tied

to rent-tier oil monopolies so the whole

environmentalist scam and the whole

ecological scam

is basically indeed growth thing in the

malthusianism it's basically about

maintaining

the monopolies of you know the

rockefellers and others you know in

norway they have their own fucking

gas industry so they're trying to

maintain their monopoly

through d growth and environmentalism

anytime you see an environmentalist

program anywhere

and by the way china doesn't practice

environmentalism because china's

combating pollution and shit

but anywhere where you see a political

party that is campaigning on

environmentalism

give your fucking jason on rouhey finger

to them they are enemies they're in the

fucking pocket of soros

that's a stand-in for

defending the monopolies of the the

main monopoly oil rent your class okay

now

here comes people like boric in chile

and petro

in colombia

these people

uh opposite are being propped up by

america

actually supported by america

in order to stop

and put a halt to china's agenda

for economic integration and they're

doing this all over latin america

they're doing it in the name of land

back and indigenous uh indigenous um

sanctity of the environment oh that we

can't mine here we can't extract

resources here because of whatever right

they're doing this to stop china's belt

and road initiative

and more or less maintain the current

economic status quo

and

it's all linked together right so these

so international social democracy is

becoming a very powerful weapon for

american unipolar imperialism now the

nato interventionists left who are also

social democratic left

these are the people like you know bosch

and and you know i don't know taran

fevec was one of these people

uh that one guy who fought in kurdistan

fuck is his name

the guy who went to rohava the larp

because he thought he was the next

ernest hemingway and then um chapel trap

house and slavoy zizek who's also firmly

embedded within western social democracy

all of these people have in common

basically and more or less

this new evolution of american unipolar

imperialism

and ukraine has been the rallying cry

right yeah brace belden

ukraine has been the rallying cry the

whole time

the indigenous movement i'm just gonna

go out and say the indigenous movement

worldwide is a tool of american unipolar

imperial and i'm not scared to say that

clipping and shipping and send it around

everywhere

the overwhelming majority of the

indigenous movement worldwide is a plot

new world order is masonic and was the

beginning of our national debt for the

civil war in the district of columbia

organic act of 1871. thank you dan

purcell

let me tell you what this indigenous

thing is about what does indigenous even

mean anymore right

because it's one thing to have

indigenous

ideas of indigeneity in the americas

but then there's starting to be this

export of indigeneity the concept of

indigeneity to

other countries to the middle east

asia

to china to russia

to europe even

this is a plot by the globalists to

undermine the sovereignty of states

that's the plot by the globalists they

want to create a political subject that

has no allegiance to any sovereign state

to undermine the legitimacy of existing

sovereign states because sovereign

states

stand in the way

of this great reset the globalists are

plotting

to basically implement a globalist

international social democracy that

erodes the sovereignty of each country

now the pro-nato left are not cynically

trying to like help the extractivism of

resources no

extracting fucking resources is

productive that is not what u.s

imperialism does anymore at least us

imperialism is primarily concerned with

degrowth it's primarily concerned with

making sure people can't extract any

more resources i can't fucking believe

people don't understand this u.s

imperialism isn't about going to other

countries and taking their resources

it's about going to other countries and

making sure they can't compete with

america's fucking industrial monopoly or

its resource monopolies that exist now

america doesn't want to extract more

resources they want to maintain the

monopolies that exist now

people are so fucking stupid and they

think that america is going to other

countries to take their resources no

they're not they're going to other

countries to maintain their monopoly

because these other countries pose a

threat to their monopoly greenpeace and

sierra club funded privately by big

energy oligarchy in the 60s to combat

the progress of nuclear energy and to

specifically prevent it from being

applied to third world well you're so

right you're absolutely right

that's the origin of the

environmentalist movement

and it's also why nixon was kind of an

environmentalist probably because nixon

was also defending the smaller monopoly

you know

probably who knows right but

i'm so sick of dumb fucks who say that

america went to iraq to take iraq's oil

no you stupid fuck america went to iraq

because saddam's oil industry was

undermining our monopoly and our petrol

dollar tadam

had his own fucking oil iraqi oil that

he wanted to sell in euros which is

going to undermine the fucking

international economic system of

american union polarity same shit with

gaddafi

we didn't go to libya to take gaddafi's

to take libya's resources and get off

his shit we did that so that gothi

gaddafi wouldn't fucking create his

african dinar currency which is gonna

fuck over the petrodollar and i'll

moreover fuck over a monopoly on

extracting resources we do not repeat

after me we don't go to other fucking

countries to extract resources we go to

other countries to make sure other

sovereign governments that are don't

answer to the united states can't

extract their own resources we want

these people to not extract anything

that's why hollywood makes fucking

movies like james cameron's avatar and

every other fucking movie under the sun

which demonizes extractivism and

demonizes productivism because they want

the resources to stay in the ground to

protect their fucking monopoly

i can't fucking believe people don't

understand this

it's insane it's insane how people don't

understand this it's fucking insane

it really pisses me off it's so fucking

obvious too oh you're such a fucking

revolutionary you go on twitter and you

like the fucking tweet with 80 000 likes

which says

um we need to stop extractivism we need

a avatar people are the indigenous

people are resisting the extractivism

god no you were brainwashed by hollywood

from the moment you were born at zero

years old to where how old you are now

which is 20 years old you were literally

fucking brainwashed by every piece of

cultural media you've consumed in your

entire life to be programmed into having

the ideology you do now on twitter which

you fucking pose as some kind of

revolutionary and some kind of

anti-establishment rebel when you're

just fucking repeating what you fucking

saw on mtv five years ago when you were

a teenager you stupid bitch it's what

you learn in fucking college by all of

your fucking professors who teach you

the same exact fucking thing how the

fuck are you against the status quo and

against the fucking establishment if

you're just repeating all the fucking

things that that same establishment has

drilled in our fucking mind since we

were born

i'm sick of stupid people i'm seeing

these stupid fake anti-imperialist

leftists you're not an anti-imperialist

you're a fucking george lucas protesting

a vietnam war after the vietnam war is

fucking over after

fucking 50 years based

and this is how nato uses human rights

ideology to justify badmouthing and

stopping developing countries from being

able to get a foot up yes

thank you

saddam kept the entire middle east in

check

terrorists were far and few

thank you alex gunn

like these dumb fucks go to these music

festivals and they fucking take lsd

and they think they're fucking like so

revolutionary and shit no you're not

you're a fucking pagan brainwashed pagan

slave of the globalist elites

you're not a fucking revolutionary

you're not a fucking rebel you're a

pagan slave of globalism

it's like people need to fucking

understand okay people need to

understand

the the people who are advocating for

intervention i i hate to break this to

you i hate to because it's so impossible

you will never accept this you will

never accept this because

you're brainwashed

but these nato libs are not advocating

support for u.s imperialism because they

want to take people's resources no

they're doing it for political and

ideological reasons it's to spread the

values of the open society and spread

progressivism now does that ultimately

benefit our monopolies yes they do it

not only benefits our monopolies it

destroys competitors to the existing

global economic system of american

unipolarity it's primarily about

snuffing out competitors

nothing more

and yes it is literally based on a

crusader progressivist ideology and i've

done my fucking research you know you

can crucify me for saying this but facts

are facts and please i mean just like if

anyone wants to push back on this

i invite you to come on my stream i will

be silent and you can present the

evidence but the evidence that i've seen

america's corporations and businesses

are not on board

with the progressivist intervention

agenda they're not

so this shit is literally just coming

from the squad and just coming from

people like aoc who want to sanction

china for human rights and hong kong and

and the we oughta in china and shit

whereas a lot of these wall street guys

were like you know they're just you know

greedy capitalist pragmatics so they

don't care about any of that shit right

but it's the ideologies of progressivism

who for example wanted us to stay in

afghanistan

and the neoconservatives were the same

way by the way

and i hate to break this to you guys

u.s military interventionism is not

about taking resources

it's about spreading the open society

values and snuff which helps snuff out

competitors

to the american unipolar system that

exists today

and why do they want to maintain the

american unipolar system because they

insist on the fact that anything

otherwise is going to be the holocaust

all over again and it's going to be nazi

germany all over again we have to stop

china it's killing the oigars we have to

stop the authoritarians they're creating

a fascist state we have to stop putin

i mean that's literally what they

believe they literally believe

any alternative to the us unipolar

system

is going to lead to nazi germany all

over again or the worst type of you know

horrible atrocity and that this is like

this is ideologically what they believe

and that is how they maintain the

american unipolar system it's not even

based on economic pragmatism it's not

based on economic pragmatism it's not

like there's like some fat cat

capitalists smoking a cigar who's like

ah

i need to maintain my

i need to increase my profits

no

now maybe under nixon it was kind of

like that but no this is literally

this is literally a war

that is occurring at the site

of of like a mental psychosis

because of the necrophiliac

like degradation and decay of the global

imperialist system

it's leading to a level of insanity

compared to

fascism which is literally what the

nazis were fucking about it was the

psychosis of the destruction of

liberalism

that's what's behind the nato

interventionist libs okay

same shit

and no it's not based on corporate greed

because corporate greed is about the

pragmatism of prophets

this shit

is based on establishing an open society

leben's rom

which is primarily about responding to

and trying to offset

the destruction of liberal capitalism

which is what the nazis were trying to

do in the east

offset the falling rate of profit and

offset destruction of capitalism through

creating a neo-feudal system of

colonialism in the east

that's what they're trying to do around

the whole fucking world creating a new

feudal system of living in the fucking

pods and eating the bugs that's what

they want to do to the russians it's

what they want to do to the chinese it's

what they want to do to everybody in the

whole fucking world

that's their open society

i'm trying to tell you that these

progressive

these progressives who are the evolution

of social democracy

you don't you're no one's listening to

what i'm saying i'm not saying they're

just serving the pragmatic interests of

some corporate wall street guys these

are scary people guys they're trying to

create a new system of social control

to ameliorate and respond to the

capitalist crisis degrowth unprecedented

social control great reset this is a

political vision that they have

and it's going to be a layer on top of

american unipolar imperialism this is

what social democracy has in store for

the peoples of the entire world

hey they're both on the same page about

what to do at home both hakeem and luna

oy those pieces of shit those scum of

the earth based

where does malthusianism work with this

you haven't yet it's genocidal

mtfg it's genocidal degrowth that's what

malthusian is

they have a genocidal misanthropic

mentality

because when you're trying to

institutionalize all of humanity you

start to acquire the paranoia that there

are too many humans because a human

being can't be controlled by an

institution a human being can't be

domesticated by political correctness a

human being can't be controlled by some

social engineers who are trying to

create an open society consensus-based

wholesome non-toxic institutionally

based society you're eventually going to

get this fucking idea in your head

there's too many human beings because of

the fact

of

literally people

being born

somehow

somehow is threatening and toxic and

somehow fucking bothers them because

it's like a wild chaotic thing they

can't fucking control

yet at least

there's too many humans that's basically

a way of saying

humanity is exceeding

my institutional vision of what a

humanity should be

so all these fucking people like luna oy

and hakeem

and those types you know

they're gonna claim to be

anti-imperialist they're not

they're not just because they oppose us

foreign interventions doesn't make them

anti-imperialist plenty of people in the

establishment oppose direct military

interventions it's at this point

literally only the progressivists

who are on board for full-on

intervention it's the neocons and

progressivists who want boots on the

ground

interventionism which is primarily based

on humanitarian nato in kosovo

intervention that's that's their

paradigm for the whole fucking world

and it's coming from the progressive

ideologists soros and the rest

interventionism is a dead dog

when it comes to pragmatic economic

interest it's not in wall street's it's

not even in the fucking corporate

profiteers interests to do military

interventionism they lose profits it's

not in their interests this is literally

being led at its vanguard by the social

democratic

a faction of the social democratic

progressive squad aoc and the rest of

them

again what i'm saying sounds crazy it

sounds insane it sounds insane i implore

you to do your fucking research i

implore you to do your fucking research

because i have i've done my fucking

research about this

i do not see

a clear connection whatsoever

between

the immediate interests of profiteers on

the stock market

and these foreign interventions that are

being proposed in congress and being

proposed politically which are based on

progressivist ideology and the

all-encompassing political vision of

social change

including environmentalism that they

have in store for us at home so the only

difference between the hakeem slash luna

oys and the other you know hunter

avalone kind of you know

i guess destiny you know like the social

democrats whatever

is

one wants to do it abroad directly

and one doesn't

but both of them are on board

domestically both of them want trudeau

to mercilessly crush the canadian

truckers both of them want the united

states government to mercilessly

prosecute the jan 16 pro people right

both of them want new domestic terrorism

laws new laws signed to basically

incriminate american citizens and

increase authoritarianism at home both

were on board with the lockdowns both

are on board with mandatory vaccines

both are on board with all these forms

of political authoritarianism at home

it's just that there's a disagreement

about whether we should export that at

home

and abroad right

so as a final takeaway

before we get into the hunter avalon

debate

i want to tell you what the difference

with proletarian dictatorship and what

it means and what a what a popular front

has to be okay

so proletarian dictatorship

has nothing in common with social

democracy why because as marx said

in his 18th premiere as lenin emphasized

later on

we want to smash the bureaucracy we want

to smash the bourgeois state we want to

smash the social democratic institutions

we want to smash the environmentalists

smash the ngos smash all these fucking

globalists

that's what the proletarian dictatorship

has in store smash them all

that's what our authoritarianism

consists in it's a defensive

authoritarianism which wants to root out

and snuff out

these fucking enemies of the people the

proletarian dictatorship exists to crush

the enemies of the people but beyond

that we're just like the libertarians we

want a simple clean and efficient state

which facilitates economic prosperity

facilitates human potential and human

growth no red tape bureaucracy smash and

get rid of all of that but we have to

maintain an iron dictatorship not to

impose our bureaucratic institutions on

on ordinary people

but as a way to defend and safeguard a

real people's democracy

against the enemies of the people

we don't want to be authoritarians to

force our vision of social change we

want to be authoritarians to destroy the

forces of the open society

who are trying to

rip open our society and themselves

impose their hitlerite fascist

dictatorship on the people social

democracy is fascist

the patriot act fascist every single

transgression that these fucking people

do against our fucking constitution is a

fascist dictatorship

based thank you nina's babylon was

eventually destroyed you guys need to

understand and i desperately implore you

to understand this

there are certain communists who are

trying to say that social democratic

reforms

are a step in the direction of communism

they're not they are a step in the

direction

of the open dictatorship of the

bourgeoisie

we will never consent to social

democratic reforms and the creation

of extra-liberal

institutions

as long as the proletariat does not

possess political supremacy and

sovereignty which means for as long as

the capitalist class owns our state we

must never ever ever consent to a single

to a single transgression

to our constitution

into our civil liberties as long as we

are under the rule of the capitalist

class the proletariat must say here is

our line here is our red line it's this

constitution you promised us it's these

rights you promised us it's these civil

liberties you promised us as a condition

of us not overthrowing you don't fucking

come for our guns don't touch our

fucking second amendment don't fucking

implement these laws we're gonna come

for our bank accounts don't fucking

overly regulate our economic activity

and overly fucking tax us don't fucking

come at our basic civil liberties and

freedoms don't fucking have your patriot

act we're gonna do all this shit with

the nsa and spy on us and fucking

infiltrate our privacy and collect our

data into all this fuck shit and then

turn us into a fucking

turn citizens of the terrorists that can

be killed with impunity you can't

fucking take american citizens to

guantanamo bay this is our red fucking

line because that's the fucking social

contract that's on paper our fucking

constitution that's our fucking red line

because we're not the ones who control

the state the capital class does so for

as long as the capitalist class controls

the state we must never ever ever

tolerate a single transgression of that

red line

and the proletarian dictatorship that we

aspire for is going to be a true

people's sovereignty which is going to

maintain that red line plus

popular sovereignty the red line plus

the iron dictatorship that's what we

want

we

will have a popular front not with

social democrats who are fascists and

hitlerites but with populist libertarian

constitutionalist conservatives we will

ally with them because both of us want

similar things or the same thing pretty

much they just want a return to the

simplicity of the state

and an end to the bourgeois to the

fucking imperialist state machine we

want the same thing it's just the only

thing we differ on is that we tell them

hey

we're not going to be able to have this

unless we have a way

of safeguarding

through arms

through an iron will being able to be a

watchdog to make sure

that the basic liberties of the people

can be protected without all of these

forces of infiltration and all these

forces you know of of intrigue and all

these forces of fascism

real globalist fascism

the enemies of the people coming in to

fuck and wreck and sabotage the whole

goddamn thing

so the proletarian dictatorship the

conception of the proletarian

dictatorship

isn't some fucking

institutionalization

of socialism

proletarian dictatorship means for

example

we have to tell the libertarians

libertarians you see these monopolists

the only way we can destroy the

monopolist is if we nationalize what

they're monopolizing is by nationalizing

what they're monopolizing our common

resources we can turn that into a

commonwealth

that that we can all presuppose to have

a real free market

nationalize the strategic industries the

simple you know the main industries the

main bread and butter

nationalize those things

okay not to increase the government and

the bureaucracy but to decrease it

because it's the monopolies

that are doing that so you nationalize

these things

give to the market what belongs to the

market but we can't bring back to the

market and what we presuppose is an

essential feature of life we'll just

nationalize it okay and then we'll

nationalize it

until we can build the forces of

production to such an extent that we

don't even need the thing anymore right

who knows

we need a national bank

i tell the libertarian libertarian

you're sick of that federal reserve we

need our fuck we need a fucking state

bank that's accountable to people you

need a state bank a public bank

accountable to the people

central state bank accountable to the

people

and to our our real popular sovereign

democracy

and that way we can ensure

that we have a government that serves

not only the working class but the whole

people including the entrepreneurs who

want

to build their own businesses and build

their own livelihoods

and you're going to the libertarians

going to say

how do i know that this state isn't

going to you know turn against the

people

because the power of the state is going

to be in the people's militias

that's going to be the organ of the

dictatorship

and if some of these militias

you know sell us out or go to foreign

elements or intrigues or whatever

and

they've declared themselves enemies of

the people we either have a state or we

don't have a state and if we're gonna

have a state it's gonna be a proletarian

dictatorship

the one mistake of the theorists of the

popular front was allying with the

social democrats that was their one

mistake

the social democrats are the fundamental

enemies of the people

if communists would have allied with

conservative peasant libertarians

they would have destroyed fascism in

italy in germany in america they would

have taken power if if the communists

would have allied with the

populist libertarian constitutionalists

we would have taken power 100

100 percent

the alliance is between the workers and

peasants

the workers

and the rule petty bourgeoisie that's

the alliance

what did social democracy mean even

during the protest against the vietnam

war

an alliance between the intellectuals

and the managerials

and the cia no working class or peasants

whatsoever

this is maoism ladies and gentlemen

we're maoists now this is dark maoism

territory gonna smash the revisionists

gonna smash the traitors we're gonna

smash social democracy it's ron paul

maoism baby that's what we're talking

about here

we are dark mowers

we're gonna unleash the energy of the

dragon we're gonna breathe fire on these

fucking swedish social democrats fuck

sweden fuck sweden fuck sweden

you come to me and tell me about the

indigenous movements in america and

latin america oh the indigenous and i

tell you behind those fucking indigenous

movements is the sweetest guy named olaf

some fucking sweetest guy sitting in

sweden in his fucking glass house in the

fucking forest with his renewable

fucking electricity and gardens and his

fucking solar panels and dumb fucking

shit

opposite of vegetable type of shit he's

fucking running and his name is fucking

olaf and he's got blonde fucking hair or

some shit

sitting in fucking sweden somewhere

because you had some fucking theological

problem with your fucking swedish

protestant dumb shit calling the world a

world of total dark depravity you're

like i ain't gonna unleash the forces of

satan yeah

oh

in the swedish

democrats

bought the indigeneity to destroy and

undermine civilization and as we know it

must be growth return to the trees you

know these fucking swedish people are

still fucking butt hurt that christians

came and chopped down their dumb ass

trees that they used to worship and

their fucking butt hurt about it so

they're going around trying to revive

indigeneity if they're all about it's

behind it it's it's a swedish protestant

fucking world of total depravity fucking

guy is behind all this shit it's not

coming from some shaman in the fucking

jungle in the amazon it's not coming

from indigenous people in america it's

not coming from the you know

from the navajo or some shit it's coming

from a fucking butthurt swedish guy

who's made his entire identity revolve

around hating the world because

christians chopped down his fucking tree

in fucking uh 1200

12

fucking 36

a.d or some shit and the fucking

missionaries came with their fucking you

know their axes and they just chopped

down those dumbass fucking pagan trees

and they're still fucking mad with it

they're still fucking mad about it

they're trying to get the revenge

this dumb shit promoting indigeneity

it's all it's sweet the swede is behind

it

that fucking guy knew what malta came in

no that's a fucking swede that's not

indigenous that's a swede a swedish

guy's behind all that shit

some fucking swedish guy who fucks

plants or some shit and worships plants

and thinks we need to return to nature

so they have this racist view of you

know tribe tribes that they're the

tribes are closer to nature and the fact

that there's indigenous people who have

bought into this fucking swedish

environmentalist retarded world view

ah one with nature harmony with nature

and the trees in the forest one with

nature the fact that some of them

actually bought into it i spit in your

fucking face you're a you you are a

fucking disgrace to your own people you

buy into that fucking swedish bullshit

you're fucking disgraced to your own

people

but some people sell out they look at

some fucking european academic

kissing seeming like they're kissing

their ass like i'm so flattered

i'm just gonna conform to the image you

created of me because it's a positive

one

fucking stupid

okay but anyway

anyway

um

all right we're gonna move on

to

you said

look you're either you're either a

maoist dark maoist or you're a swedish

social democrat there's

there's no in between

no in

excellent speechos if chat wants more

clarity on how the genocidal degrowth

agenda was born and is being enacted i

recommend reading the larouche org

report on the green new deal

thank you so much johnny for appreciate

you man

thank you so much

look

let me tell you what the chinese way the

chinese way is a dark way it's a

duganist way it's every single people's

projecting their own world

so you want to talk about latin american

people there's a dark maoist latin

american vision

of a revival of those ancient incan

civilizations

ancient aztecs whatever and it's a dark

vision of a completely new world

outside of the open society and

epistemically you can't even think of it

because it's beyond the transcendental

plane

of imagination

it's dark it's true it's raw it's real

combining the spanish and portuguese

cultures with these old civilizations

with that christianity this

super-powered christianity

it's a dark vision not bad vision but

it's it's out it's you can't make an mtv

show about it you can't you can't

fucking make it wholesome on twitter you

can't you can't the dsa and jacob will

never like it because it's politically

incorrect

and it's beyond the threshold of fantasy

and imagination it's real

it's the real the neo-traditionalism

each and every people destroying and

undermining and crushing the unipolar

world ideological vision of social

democracy through a true proletarian

dictatorship

of sovereignty

solar cruelty a dark sun a red sun a red

sun in the sky this is a fake sun ladies

and gentlemen you see the sun that you

see in the sky these solar worshipers

the frauds

because this is a fake sun we worship a

dark sun

this sun is fake there's a red sun

there's a red star in the sky

that's where we're gonna draw our world

and build our world from

actually we're not even gonna build a

world we're gonna be open to the cosmos

because the world builders

are gonna rule the day

this is the wandering earth we're

hurtling toward a new sun ladies and

gentlemen we're breaking out of the

anglo box we're breaking out of the main

ideology entering the 17th dimension

we are the closed society

walking in the steps of plato fuck

george soros fuck carl pop

we're breaking the conditioning

not a black sun

said a dark one a dim one

a dim sun

we believe

the vision we have you don't see that on

tv you don't see that on this internet

this open society internet our shit is

not open it's closed it's dark yet it's

so visible to us we can see it

everywhere we are

that's

totalitarianism quote unquote

totalitarianism

all totalitarianism means is finding

meaning piercing through this world

finding meaning in it

being loyal to that meaning

all right anyway getting a little too

esoteric

so ladies and gentlemen without further

ado

without further ado

or grab

grab some food

we're gonna watch

the destruction of hunter avalone at the

hands of rtsd

so if y'all don't know what rtsg is i

can't say much about it because it's a

secret

freemason or

no if you know you know if you don't you

don't

this secret

of the knights of malta type of thing

the templars

the assassins

they jumped hunter avalon

found them punked him

i'm gonna be real about something i'ma

confess something i don't know who

hunter avalon is i heard his name before

i have never known who this dude was i

swear i shit you not on who the fuck he

was i've never heard of this dude

i knew about xander this guy looks like

he's 12 years old i've never even seen

what he looks like till now he looks

like he's 12 years old so i went on

twitter and i searched hunter avalon

haas to see if he's ever talked shit

about me

just so i can have permission to talk

shit about him

and i found that he taught he celebrated

my banning from twitch so now it's all

unleashed i can talk as much shit as i

want about him because he's a guy who

talks shit about me

now on youtube this is an odd thing

this is a really odd thing so i'm going

to ask y'all who the fuck this guy is i

looked him up today hunter avalon

hunter avalon thing i saw you would not

belong it's not just it's you would not

believe what i saw he's got i said shit

i don't know if i want to come at this

guy he's got 600

600 000 subscribers but then every

single one of he gets the same views

that i get

if not less

he gets the same views that i do what

the hell is going on

he's got six hundred thousand

he's got six hundred thousand

subscribers he's got more subscribers

than destiny

and steven bonnell he's got more

subscribers than stephen bonnell

okay so i don't know what the fuck is

going on with that

i never knew who he was i never knew who

he was and if i did i probably would

have challenged him

uh i'm gonna send that money back okay i

know your paypal i'm

sending

yeah i'm sending that back

but um

oh don't you know

i mean thank you i appreciate it thank

you but

thank you for the donut but i'm sending

that back okay

okay so

first of all um so okay so i never knew

who hunter avalon was

don't know who he is

um

i guess he's never interacted with who

is this guy i don't know who the fuck he

is

first of all what's his what's what's

going is he is he destiny or is he a

boss guy i don't know right let me grab

my show off my sandwich i've been saving

uh so i can

properly

all right

bosh he's a wash he's a boss shit

chat does everything sound leveled out

testing testing one two three

can you give me one more test

yes uh testing testing

uh

all right sorry i know that's a little

comfortable

no no it's okay i hope i'm audible for

the audience yeah you're okay

well

prism goes

the raging hitler right liberal

became a liberal after being dominated

and domesticated by job of the vosh

is showing his social darwinist

mendelian racism

your society isn't better because he

masturbates funko pops and freely access

reddit see

people think we're racist against

indigenous people

no we're do we we're like dugan people

we

we believe in the sacred

unique truth of every people

and we don't think indigenous tribes are

primitive they have a very

equally human

if not more complex

morse with more spiritual depth and

reality than our corrupt liberal society

i believe you're okay so is this the

rtsg what does that mean who is that

what is that um

that's that's our group that's uh

so the person debating him

is rtsg august

august is a kenyan

from kenya and he lives in sweden

okay

he's taking down sweden from within

um we're a group that researches

politics uh geopolitics philosophy

economy um and even media so that's

that's who we are that's just

okay so you want to go through and sort

of talk about this tweet where you

called me a hitler light

or hidden no i didn't write it uh i

didn't write it but my friend did and uh

yeah i mean if you could read it for the

audience the raging hitlerite liberal

hunter avalon who became a liberal after

being dominated and domesticated by

jabba the vosh which is not true by the

way is showing his social darwinist

uh what is that word mendel it looks

like mike from pa's little brother

that's what he looks like like mike from

pa's little brother

lion racialism

your society isn't racialism all right

your society isn't better because you

mass produce funko pops and can freely

access reddit

so and you s

uh attached this not evolved

evolutionary or cultural

what

you realize that's what the definition

of primitive means right

um

i mean that's that's what i'll debate

you about after but yeah could you

continue reading the

just

it's scary how he copies boss's

mannerisms you guys notice that because

african tribes are technologically

backwards doesn't indicate primitiveness

the advancement of technology does not

equate to an advancement of cultural or

societal sophistication degeneration of

human culture morality is a result of

consumerism exists holy shit dude i

don't want to read this whole massive

thing all right

his conception of culture is that more

products there are the more advanced

culture this is bullshit hunter avalon

perceives the conception of time as they

speak rtsg has already destroyed sansoi

beyond recovery sansoi's done his whole

career is dead

for years he has five viewers

so avalon is the next victim

but um

yeah

see rtsg knows this shit because they

read they read heidegger they understand

this shit

these people existing in the past

despite them living in the present not

true at all you're just like basically

just projecting things on me

uh history is not a linear dead list of

facts but moves in spiraling zigzags

societies develop not by random

happenstances or individual brilliance

but by general rtsg is like a mystical

group of um

sages

they transmit ancient wisdom these are

like they're like very well learned

they're like

they're scholars okay

this is a fucking bird brain dumb fuck

he can't even wrap his small puny

pathetic mind behind this

generations of dynamic compounding

events i mean i can probably agree with

that therefore it is ironically avalon's

conception of linear time that is

primitive pick up i i don't know what

you mean

linear time avalon speech is virtually

indistinguishable from a victorian

uh colonel officer he accuses his

critics of being racial essentialist

despite calling african tribesmen

mud-hut tribesmen never

said that but okay cliche racism that is

so comical and speaks for itself that

explaining isn't needed it is

astonishing that someone of this obtuse

caliber commands an audience of half a

million people

okay cool

so let me give a quick rundown just for

anybody who's listening or watching

currently and then we'll go through this

thread and i'll explain why virtually

every single thing he said here is like

embarrassingly wrong so

first and foremost

i mentioned that that tribe

was primitive

in regards to the fact that they do not

have the same access you're right sagan

is bs with malfution views i held him on

an emotional pedestal because of my

childhood my error thanks for calling me

out

oh i'm sorry stay human i thought you

were trolling

poor

i'm sorry man i mean i didn't mean to um

scold you

i bad but thank you for the five

to resources which provide them with the

proper type of information regarding

complex social phenomena such as sex

gender non-binary transgender et cetera

and i'm saying huh

what the hell is he talking about

huh

roll that back

regards to the fact that they do not

have the same access

to resources which provide them with the

proper type of information regarding

complex social phenomena

such as sex dude is

saying the african tribe

is

primitive

because they're not exposed to lgbt

ideology

well the will the sock damn tankies

respond to this unique racism

calling a people primitive because they

don't give a fuck about lgbt bullshit

sex gender non-binary transgender etc

and i'm sorry but this was demonstrated

in matt walsh's own video where the

people he spoke to didn't know what

non-binary meant or what it meant for a

woman to or what it meant for someone to

be a woman with a penis and again i'm

not saying that

they are

dumb

what i'm saying is that

sure they have the capability

to learn more of course but the way that

they are currently living aka in mud

huts in a tribe

then yes they don't have equality

access

to that type of information so i fail to

see how this is racist to acknowledge a

fact of the matter

do i do i come in and disagree now or do

you want to lay out more of your

disagreements and then we can go over

them afterwards well you can go ahead

and talk now and then we'll go through

the threat i guess

august is such a scary dude

he's such like a smooth kojev

he's a kojev knight

he's deadly

deadly

do you want to talking

or would you like to witness

your destruction at my hands more

immediately

yes yes keep talking

i will dismantle you very easily

uh sure your point that

i guess they are primitive because they

don't know uh what non-binary is right

no that's not why they're primitive

[Laughter]

[Laughter]

why the fuck did y'all not flip this

shit

flip that fucking whole part

what the fuck y'all gotta make milk more

content out of this shit

clip that whole part clip that entire

part

post that shit on twitter

never know if you can't quote back what

i said then i'll say it again

you said that uh they don't have equal

access to technology that would explain

uh to them specific concepts such as

non-binary right

give me a sec

give me one second

in my mouth too

oh by the way

miss it

oh just a reminder

the youtuber named socialism for all

who i believe is a 40 year old virgin

i believe he's a 40 year old virgin

um

but he's the biggest pussy on the

internet

and

um

he's trying he's adopting socialism to

get pussy but he hasn't gotten any

yeah he's like this 40 year old virgin

who

um who like is adopting social media

pussy and like if you guys were to like

go to his channel and like

leave a bunch of comments that would

like be really bad that'd be really

devastating

like that's that would suck so much

did that

like basically like leaving comments

calling him a four-year-old virgin like

i'd never condone that

i would never ever condone that that

would be so bad if he did that i would

never condone that at all

so yeah i'm i'm not for that i'm not for

that

but anyway let's continue

do they have access why don't you answer

a couple yes or no questions does a

tribe that is described by the way even

by travel agencies nothing political as

primitive

does that tribe have access to say the

internet or a library or a large amount

of books that could educate them on

certain subjects

um lebanon has that and lebanon does not

accept the idea of someone being

non-binary

do you do you mean like a theoretically

a tribe or that specific tribe that

specific tribe do they have access to

those things resources yes masai people

have access to do they have access to

internet in kenya yes uh parents aren't

either wait the drive out in the middle

of nowhere which is constantly moving

around has access to the internet

uh

yeah unironically

like literally yes they do they're not

isolated from the whole fucking world i

don't know why people think that

african tribes

like they're not

they're not nearly as isolated as you

think they are unironically yes a lot of

them do have internet access

and they have phones and shit you know

yeah because they usually are based off

of towns you know that they have that's

where they meet you when they go to

traveling agency uh what you call it

let me go back to my thing then for this

because that's just not true the way in

which that tribe operates

how do you know hunter how do you know

it's not true that they don't have any

access then

no no they are in they are a nomadic

tribe usually but the people who

specifically who coordinate this kind of

stuff uh are based off of specific

locations

but that's just like any modern company

it doesn't really much matter

but even even then i mean they have

all right hold on

yes

the mahasi tribe roam freely across the

savan savannah from country to country

moving from one place to another without

any regard for travel regulations or

state borders

um

that's conceptually that's the the tribe

most of them specifically but like most

of them

um

i don't think most of them actually even

live that way now do they generally have

access to things like internet

um

yes

really then why is that completely

contradictory to the type of videos and

the information that we have on this

tribe

oh

i think you just

made an assumption based on your

prejudice

watching those videos

there were the the type of videos you

have on this specific drive yeah you can

watch videos of the tribe and

they're obviously living a more

traditional lifestyle and again i'm not

condemning that but when you act as if

like oh

why is this lifestyle incompatible with

having internet access i don't get it

like

you can't live this lifestyle and have

access to the internet

oh this is his arrogance he he assumes

that

anyone who has information access

will decide out of their free choice

to stop doing these practices

and and start collecting funko pops like

hunter

because apparently

this is an inferior way of life that can

only be maintained by a lack of

information that's his racism let me

give me give me a second

oh yeah you know they're they're uh

they're traveling from place to place

they tend to build huts out of mud but

yeah they can whip out their iphone

anytime like that are you serious right

now are you joking

this is incredible arrogance

did i say they have iphones and shit i'm

asking if you think they have access to

the internet

yes they have

yeah

they they they have smartphones you

fucking idiot they even have smartphones

access to internet in kenya yeah

and i'm not saying in kenya that's not

the question i'm asking if this specific

tribe the way in which they live do they

have the same type of access that we

have here to

see how the goal posts shifted now it's

do they have the same access which means

are they sitting on their computer 18

hours a day like hunter

internet access a library access to

knowledge the same way

i mean if you're asking me like

specifically like if per capita they

have as much internet usage uh as your

average small town in america then

obviously no okay cool so then they

don't have the equal access to certain

resources that could provide them with

no they do have access to those

resources what are you talking about

knowledge on complex social phenomena

such as uh non-binary people and uh

trans people that's fine that's all i

want why would you need

you're such it's just a fucking stupid

thing to say across the board like

why would they need

the internet for that in the first place

if if that social phenomena

exists in their society

then

through their own wars and culture

they're gonna be able to relate to it

themselves fucking dumbass wanted was a

simple acknowledgement of that false

possibility that's not necessarily

something you need the internet to know

that's just like a society social

organization that is uh dependent uh

on multiple factors not just like

technology right obviously it's gonna be

multiple factors and that's why i say

even no matter what

every human civilization has a concept

of gender but they might not fully

understand how that is considered gender

how we classify gender how that

interacts i'm not saying again that how

we

who's we

what are you what are you talking about

they're stupid and don't have they're

dumb they're not able to learn none of

this is what i'm saying all i'm saying

is that the way in which they live the

way in which they choose to live

makes it so they are living a more

traditional or primitive lifestyle where

they don't have equal access to certain

resources to be educated on these topics

which was shown in matt walsh's fucking

thing

in his video

give me a second i'm trying to like it

doesn't have to be the internet either

it could be

a library it could be

any

someone should make a meme like

correlation between libraries

and fucking

people researching non-binary like just

like what a stupid fucking thing to say

okay

the views about gender don't exist

because people are educated about them

but because it's a cultural trend okay

it's not because

it's not because oh we just have

scientific knowledge impartially no it's

a cultural trend

where people are like starting to

say this because of cultural reasons

that are changing any type of of equal

access to resources that provide it's

not libraries it's liberalism

unless you're talking about like you

know

eccentric uh

gender practices in the in these fucking

societies which they do have

okay

these societies sometimes have

pretty eccentric you know views about

sexuality and stuff

like they have

kind of heard they call them can you say

the word herma you know that they like

have these intersex and all that kind of

shit like they they do have like

cultural forms of memory of these kinds

of things themselves

but if you're talking about like the

discourse on this whole gender shit like

they have that's something you need

liberalism for not libraries by

knowledge

i mean no not really because like for we

have plethora of examples throughout

history where you would have like a a

country that has better technology or

subjugating a different uh people with

you know worse technology

and uh they are less alienated ensuring

that they have more regressive like

thank you so much vladimir

based

this guy only thinks these people don't

have internet because he has never

stepped outside of the anglo net let

alone gone to these people's local

websites like say nireland

thank you so much

yeah appreciate you man

a liberal sense uh

social order you know like uh forcing

that on them

that that has happened countless times

to throw out history

of course

anyone ever sit in chat and wonder like

hey i wonder if has read my comment

i wonder what haze is thinking about

thank you this guy would be the first to

censor tribal views on genderism

of course you would

if has read my understand what is he

thinking right now is he thinking about

my comment

you think about what i said

saying the internet thing says i mean

i'm on track one to one no no

there's no such thing as like universal

progression you know right i'm not

saying

that the internet is going to magically

fix everything the internet has caused a

fuck ton of problems i'm using the

internet more or less as a fill-in for

a good idea or understanding of how we

access knowledge and information

nowadays when we want to learn things we

usually go to the internet or to a

library if we are seeking out i know

this because i used to be a chatter to

be a streamer

i used to be a chatter and i know what

it's like to be a chatter or knowledge

especially on advanced subjects such as

non-binary all i meant

was that they don't have the same access

to those resources

because the way in which they live is by

the way we define things primitive that

i'm not saying the people are primitive

i'm saying that their lifestyle the way

in which they choose to live is

primitive by the very definition of the

word

the yeah their vibe is primitive i mean

it doesn't it doesn't uh wait did you

just say they're primitive

yeah i said yeah i said that holy shit

are you being racist right now are you a

hitlerite oh my god yes um

wow we got hitler over here right hitler

here's the question

um

what are the implications of primitive

um well before i get to that i'd just

like to read this really it's a

rhetorical question that was the joke uh

the implications when you say the

the term primitive is three

one there is a hierarchy

two

you are higher on that hierarchy than

them three

this hierarchy has objective measures to

which what one could uh

uh track development pro

progress et cetera so i guess like

number one

is demonstrate i would ask you this this

is not rhetorical

uh demonstrate the objectivity of this

um hierarchy right and demonstrate to

which um

why the specific

uh

am i misunderstanding are you asking me

to prove an objective category

yes because your statement no categories

are objective

that's no yes the the there are

objective categories yes

what an idiot

that's so stupid how old is this guy he

looks like he's 12.

wait well he looks like he's like 14 how

old is he anyone know his age

unironically looks like a 14 year old

kid

categories are socially constructed we

make them they are what a fucking idiot

no they're not you dumb fuck

read kant

what do you fucking mean they're

socially constructed

and proved how they're a priori

by dumbass

definition not objective if by the way

you're using objective you mean it stays

the same without human perception

yes

they're the categories of understanding

re what are you fucking dumb fuck why

why are you on the internet dude are you

trying to be an intellectual you're

stupid as fuck you're so uneducated but

this is the first time i saw this dumb

fuck

what a dumbass

no

uh

within sciences things can be classified

in an objective manner yes

you're familiar with anthropology no

no no i i am

but when you say objective

hold on wait what it usually means when

you say objective

that is he's only 20.

yeah but jackson's 22

i think jackson can you imagine jackson

ever

being like this no

oh this is they're lying about their age

they're probably like 16 or something

it's referring to

something that literally some kid in

high school

no joke stays the same without human

perception or human interaction for

example

he's 25 he's my age

this guy is the same age as me

damn

damn what does it mean to be an adult

damn what does it mean

i'm so mature for my age

i'm literally like a 40 year old war

veteran compared to this

fuck

example an existence of a rock biggest

twerp i've ever seen in my life he's my

age

is objective because even if there were

no humans on earth the rock would still

be here it doesn't depend upon human

interaction or perception to exist

categories necessarily do

so they are not objective by the way in

which we determine that word

dude

i get that you're 20 but even i

understood kant when i was

see this is what i think

you don't have to understand kant by 20

years old

but

when you posture as an intellectual on

the internet

you have to understand kant regardless

of your age if you don't understand kant

don't fucking go on the internet and

posture as an intellectual that's that

should be the rule okay

before you go on another spiel let me

just read this really quickly from

safari adventurer which is a a uh

neutral source it's not political at all

it's actually like a tour guide thing it

says

uh one of these tribes

political sometimes written as okay

sometimes written

who to this day remain a primitive tribe

of warriors living messiah okay one of

these tribes is the maasai people

sometimes written as messiah who to this

day remain a primitive tribe of warriors

living mainly in the areas dominated

what happened to sultan that guy was so

funny too

you guys guys look up

sansa sultan

look that debate up on you

that is legit one of the most funny

fucking debates ever

look that up okay that

that shit was fucking fun

by the enormous mount kilimanjaro

so when you say hunter's a racist

hitlerite for saying the word primitive

yet this tribe is described as primitive

even by neutral travel agency blogs i

don't know what to tell you i don't know

what the i don't know what neutral

travel agency this is about like if

you're going to be a toy it's literally

called safari ventura and it's pandering

to western

safari and you know you know that safari

shit has its origins in colonialism

who the british safari all that shit

so don't don't sit here and be like oh

this is like this shut up dude you're

fucking dumb

also you're literally a political

ideologist you're going to be held to

different standards as a political

ideologist

than a fucking safari because while this

thing might just have some leftover

prejudices of the past you are an active

ideologist saying this shit you know

there's a big difference tourist if

you're gonna go to this location what to

expect you know there's a lot of people

who are like uh liberals who are racist

so it's like i don't know you know

they could be everywhere they could be

behind us it's like a

it's a common thing in the west you see

so it's not really much of an issue but

i guess going back to it doing better do

you want me to read you the definition

of what a primitive tribe is according

to this no no no no

no philosophy dude why do they all talk

the same fucking way

ah you know what

people ask me haas why do you dislike

destiny

is it because of all the shit destiny

said about you

no

is it because destiny um

uh started attacking you because of uh

that drama like

in the last fall no

is it because of the debate you had

with him

um

no

is it because he was calling you

misinformation sweater no

the reason i dislike destiny

is there's something about that guy that

reproduces

copycats

and

it's people like vosh and this guy

that make me dislike destiny like

he created all this shit

and you want to know how i know he

created it

he sounds like destiny

he talks like destiny just like how voss

does

and it's so

fucking annoying

dude just go read books you instead of

you won't have to copy these

personalities you can create your own

personality

from your own intellect

yeah i fucking hate this shit man

one starcraft player

created the precedent for all the

political streamers

okay

so we have

the

the the the three questions or the three

points that i made right it implies

hierarchy it implies you're higher on

the hierarchy but it implies that the

specific the same thing goes on here in

india we've pmc urbanoids and rural

masses having same access to internet

these days but both hang out in

completely different spaces so the

urbanoid arrogantly ends up assuming

they're only ones with access to

internet

joe

thank you on

honor rag

sharma

thank you man

thank you man

thank you

change man

pacific uh

church man thank you

measurements

one could use in this hierarchy or

whatever our objective so i'm just

asking you

to just display like the objectivity of

it

and why you are on higher on i'm not i'm

not going to uh

lay out an objective category because

i've already said that those are not

objective and by the way in which we

categorize things they cannot be so if

you want to get hung up on this weird

philosophical

give me an objective category nonsense

then that's fine if you want to go in a

circle for an hour but i'm trying to

actually explain my position why i took

that position and why my position is

grounded in reality not racism okay

here's another one for you a book

literally about indigenous language

acquisition and maintenance talks about

what is a primitive tribe it is usually

used to describe a group of people not

yet exposed to or used to modern

practices contemporarily prevalent

but primitivism assumes the modernist

teleology

of

there being a hierarchy of development

it presupposes a historical hierarchy of

development

so that's what

august was talking about

primitive with regard to what's okay

this is this is what i would do right i

would just go and be like what is the

etymology of primitive the idiot car not

confusing certainty with objective truth

thank you uh chris morlock appreciate

you so this is where the problem begins

okay

so dumb fucks look at definitions and

smart people look at the etymology

when you look at the etymology you see

primitive comes from the land word

primus first primitivist first of its

kind

so primitive

carries on the connotation of

earlierness right

being from the past

and that is at the heart of the kind of

racist view these tribes because these

tribes are not

lesser or

less developed or in the past

compared to uh modern

they are just as contemporary as us

they have their own way of life that

makes has meaning for them

thank you chris morlak appreciate has a

meaning for them right

he is assuming

that there's like a line between the

tribe and then the hunter avalon soy soy

male

new male

i'm saying that this creature is a

degenerated form

of a much more virile vigorous

uh much more human

uh

powerful uh

form

the the messiah are much much more

powerful

much more advanced much more uh stronger

than this

creature

and here's why if you take your little

finger and

take hunter avalon off his chair he

would literally be like a whaling baby

he needs like drones and military drones

and all this shit he has nothing to do

with the problem he's literally sucking

on the teeth of modern civilization

whereas if you take a massage person

and transplant them somewhere pretty

sure the maasai guy is gonna like

know how to

you

know know how to live take care of

themselves

probably more right everyone needs

social

stuff but like

those people literally have a spiritual

world they don't just take it for

granted like hunter sitting on their

computer like

you know what i mean

they literally live and breathe their

world

members of such groups may have

primitive features in their social

structures as well as practices again

i'm not talking about humans being

primitive here's the issue right here's

the issue here's the issue is that you

specifically use a language that is

racist someone calls you out hey this

language is racist and then you go run

to a question a specific list or website

or you're like oh well they use the

specific language therefore people

unironically don't understand archaeo

modernity archaeo modernity means

there's going to be a bunch of acon

cities all across africa

afrofuturistic

beyond the current dimension

and these tribes are going to be ruling

these cities

and all these dumb fucking people are

going to be like how could these

primitives tribes

govern such complex cities and the

tribes are going to be like oh we just

tapped in

to our

uh ancient you know we just trapped into

our customs we just flipped the switch a

little bit all of a sudden you have

fucking

fusion energy

and flying hovercraft and shit you know

i'm not racist not just that it's not

the definition of the word is not

inherently racist you're the one

extrapolating that

intuitively we all understand when you

had specifically used those specific

terms you did not have in your mind oh

i'm actually referencing this language

or oh i'm referring since you don't

understand about people in the world

like just flip a switch and they can

have technology if they want

it's not like it would be so shocking

they're like

oh that technology shit yeah we just

didn't care about that but like if if

that's what we're gonna do now yeah

we'll have that i mean it's it's not

like they're like oh my god

thank you white saviors from the

technology

it's more like no we're doing our own

thing because this is meaningful for us

but like if we decide to do the

technology thing yeah we'll do a

technology thing look at china

y'all this is what happened with china

like y'all think china was primitive

he just decided not to literally

explicitly

and then once the time came they're like

okay you want to do this technology shit

to defend ourselves from the west we'll

do the technology shit and look at china

today you know what i mean

so it's like

that's what's going on in the world

referencing uh this this book this

travel agency actually uses it in the

same manner that's not how communication

actually works right like we

there's a there's a the way

communication usually works is we we say

words which have definitions that uh

elucidate what we mean to say that is

not how communication works at all

definitions are downstream from

communication communication is based on

intuition

it's also based on meaning meaning is

not derivative from definitions

uh meaning is derivative from context

hunter you fucking dumbass

so when i say that a tribe is primitive

and then the word of primitive is

described as lacking relative to hold on

when the definition of when the

definition of primitive

is defined as contemporarily prevalent

to a more modern society

and then they have more primitive

features in their social structures then

that definition is valid the way in

which i chose to use it the way i

understand works is that you have a

group of people that has a lot

bro

hunter's getting manhandled he's getting

manhandled

getting punked out

the sigma august he didn't he never

he never stopped

finally the beta male stopped speaking

and the kenyan chad

kept talking

that's how it works guys that's

domination

that's domination

they looked each other in the eyes

bumped her bitch style that's the truth

larger understanding and then we have a

group of people that has a smaller

understanding and the psychotic thing

you're trying to do is take it so that

the group of people who understood it

intuitively from the clip that you have

seen and say oh those people have the

minority understanding actually my

people have the majority understanding

which you it is you can demonstrate the

uh how incorrect the statement is are

just simple numbers you could just

i'm just like hey i've never seen this

guy

he's literally a real-life soy jack who

the fuck is this guy

he's literally a real-life soy jack what

the fuck

yeah when you make up my statement i'm

sure it's very easy to do that but

that's not what i said that's not even

what i imply how does this guy even have

any

that's not what i said that's not what i

said what

the fuck is this guy

i've never heard of this guy this is the

biggest fucking cuck i've ever seen in

my life

this is the definition of soy you know

what's funny is like ever since i

brought back soy discourse to the left

everyone's been trying to become more

manly everyone even destiny they've all

been trying to okay okay

he like

made us self-conscious wash all of them

bosh has been trying to lose weight cut

his head like they're they're all trying

to become more self-conscious about

their masculinity because of the

insecurity i thrusted on them this guy

never

got with like

got with the program

because he this is the only guy who

never debated me that's why

he's the only one who never debated me

he's the only one

he's the only one who never debated me

and that's why he's he's literally this

fucking soy because he never corrected

he never had the haas trauma of

going to the gym

and fucking changing your voice a little

bit to sound less like a fucking cuck

oh my god bro this i feel bad for this

dude this dude is so vulnerable he is so

exposed

oh my god this is bad this dude is

really weak he would be chewed up and

eaten and spit out

he debated me

looking at your video and posting it

and besides i keep asking you to

demonstrate the objectivity of this

specific uh developmental standard that

you specifically said and or implies all

right

again primitive is not an objective

thing primitive is defined in relation

to a more developed area

can you guys imagine me debating him

why have i never heard of this guy he

has 600 000 fucking subscribers why have

i never heard of him i've never heard of

this guy away to a website that's at

some point said the same word that you

said which is totally what you had in

mind when you specifically use those

terms right

okay let's go back really quickly

let's look at this

[Laughter]

yo what is this

[Laughter]

yo you could not make this up man what

is this

[Laughter]

let's just give a quick summary real

quick because i have a feeling already

that

he's so nasally

i

i have a feeling already man

i've bullied i've bullied the whole left

into like

becoming self-conscious

i've never seen someone this soy in a

long time

he's so nasally

it's it's a cartoon bruh this is like a

fucking movie it's like

this is literally fucking mclovin

it's mclovin what is this bruh it's

mclovin

has anyone ever called him mclovin am i

the first one

no what is this

oh fuck

you know i've seen you tweet about me

and whatnot i i have a feeling that your

main goal here is to be

basically just as fucking annoying as

possible to get me to hang up and then

so you can claim victory

i never ran back to a website i decided

that first of all i hear an echo in the

background can you

do you maybe have primitive technology

over there can you maybe turn it down a

little bit so

when i say that something is more of a

primitive person in my ear but that's

when i went oh wow so now you're

actually being more racist than i ever

was because i never said anybody was ah

i'm when you're being racist against soy

males

you're being rapists

against the funko pop race

this is racism

it's primitive but nice one

yes you just implied on the screen that

there may be primitive people who should

not dare to speak about mindfulness

do you think that's what i said this is

what i mean with the bad faith you're

actually like just you're lying about

what i said i never said they're

primitive therefore they shouldn't talk

about this that's not even i never said

they were permanent never talk about

this what i said you absolutely applied

it you you absolutely i said they're

probably not the best source

but that doesn't mean they can't talk

about it you know what i'm officially

saying they are the best source that's

what i'm saying probably not the best

which by the way wait if you lack

knowledge on something then yes that's

probably not the best source to go

seeking knowledge on that thing what are

you talking about

because they have an understanding of

social or they have a different

understanding of social order than you

do in your country doesn't mean

objectively that they have bad

information you're right it doesn't mean

objectively because words are not

objective good one buddy you're really

you're coming around i'm proud of you uh

i mean they are but whatever i mean i'm

uh do you think like the amish would be

considered primitive

i don't know what amish is they live

without electricity they ride around

with horse horse and carriages they uh

uh basically adhere oh they're not

primitive what

how are they primitive

to their strict view of faith and

religion and so yeah they don't use

technology they don't use cars

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um

by the way no one will characterize

amish people as primitive

just old-fashioned nobody calls them

primitive who calls them primitive

primitive is a specific colonial

construction

uh with regard to tribes right

it was the american tribes it was the um

tribes that were contacted and they

basically deduced

that these represented the first form of

human human organization

and that's where the idea of primitivism

comes from

so no the amish would not be

characterized as primitive i don't know

if that's a fair assessment i mean

judging by your track record i don't i

don't know if that's a fair assessment

of that would you consider that

generally like being

was a good source for uh primitiveness

personally speaking but that's just me

you know i guess the reason it sort of

feels like we're kind of walking and

going around around in circles here is

that

i feel that i was very clear with what i

said what i argued

was that because of the trump oh fuck

are they i didn't mean to are they trans

like female to male i

i don't i don't fucking know are they

if so i really actually apologize i did

not mean

that's that must be why fuck

fuck

i've oh no okay okay

if not

if not okay then all right we're back

then

we're back in business

all right back in business

back in business

all right

all right we're good

most people saw it interpreted as racist

so yes what no actually a lot of people

didn't interpret it as a racist if they

were not interested in being bad

you literally called them you

metaphysically isolated them in a bubble

and pretended they waited archaic was a

just a misnomer that was the wrong word

honest advice take testosterone

supplements to the sky that's my honest

advice

and i usually would never recommend that

but

you need to take them

for like a month or two or like five

months

and then you'll probably just get used

to it after

and you won't have to take him anymore

you'll just be okay like yeah this is

what it feels like to be a man i'll like

maintain that feeling but you're 25 and

this is you i'm telling you that's a

problem okay straight up i'm telling you

it's a problem

if you're 25 years old and you're like

this guy this is a big problem okay

you're gonna want to do something about

say something else i feel like i don't

know wait

the

okay yeah this is the thing with the bad

faith is like you obviously have a

perception of me and this idea of me

that you're kind of clinging to and no

matter what i say you're not going to

change but

yeah archaic i said right away hey

archaic was actually the wrong word to

use there that was a a misnomer it

didn't even make sense with what i was

saying it wasn't like i was trying to be

extra racist and then walked back to

being a little less racist or some shit

i said archaic mistakenly and then i

corrected myself and said i actually met

is this like secretly some bad

motherfucker i shouldn't be fucking with

like why have i never heard of this guy

who is this guy what is he known for who

is this guy

i don't know who this is

i don't know anything about this person

eh

who is this

meant primitive that was the word i was

actually looking for in which more

people got mad at me

saying that i was being racist you

weren't trying to be very racist and

then walked it back to being less racist

you did the more cowardly thing of being

very racist getting caught hey mods go

ahead and ban all the uh all the trolls

here in chat thank

you go ahead

yes i said that uh

give me a moment here what was i saying

yeah i said that you weren't being very

racist and then you walked it back to

being less racist you did the more

cowardly thing of being very racist and

then try to do the jujitsu move where

it's like everyone is actually more

racist than you

no actually the reason that you would

have to be racist for that is because

you're the one

essentializing being primitive to the

people i wasn't primitive tribe

specifically refers to a tribe in which

their social structure

relevant to contemporary practices

is primitive it's behind in development

who assigns the standard of what is the

social structure is like uh weren't you

the one who was just arguing about

objective categories

oh who assigns it i'm just asking you

who

these enemies with destiny

i thought he would be friends with

destiny enemies

damn imagine

damn even destiny doesn't like him

yeah this guy's i don't know who i've

never heard of this guy i don't know who

he is

i always saw stuff

on like reddit and stuff like hunter

avalon this hunter i had never looked

into it

but i always thought a hunter would be

like

i always imagined like someone

you know a little more um

i always like thought

hunter is like a

like a

like a fucking hunter you know like

hunter avalone

military veteran hunter avalon

every time i saw the tagline that's what

i was thinking in my head like

hunter avalon

rejects

strategy of the military nato forces

has his own strategy for beating

enemies of america some shit like i

don't know i've always thought like

hunter avalone

sounded to me like

this is like a fucking 14 year old

fucking kid okay

i don't know what this

if we're going to use the word primitive

it's used in relation to more

contemporary societies and social

structures more contemporary society

you're also isolating them in the past

again like i said before no i'm not i'm

talking about one civilization that's

moved ahead and developed in social

structures how how that's that's what i

would grill them on like

why is our social structure more

developed that's what i grill them on

you said more contemporary society yes

yes

if we're talking about a civilization

that has developed at a faster rate and

we're talking about them having more

access to certain resources as opposed

to another tribe that doesn't relevant

to that developed society that tribe is

now defined as primitive

yes

you specifically said that you weren't

uh using language uh that uh isolates

them in the past and you asked you you

specifically exist not isolating them in

the past that's just defining it the way

the word is used you don't understand

how words work you're over here telling

me that what does contemporary mean it

means in the present this tribe also

exists in the present

ah definitions you need to come up with

the objective definition

and you don't even fucking know you

don't even know what words mean

or how they're used apparently

you're you're coping about definitions

when being caught in the language you

use besides i'm so caught right now i'm

so scared

there's no such thing as universal uh uh

universal uh what do you call our

progress for example victorian laws are

like far more regressive on like many

fronts compared to like local laws in

like india or like polynesia or the

islamic world regarding things like

homosexuality

do you think that if aliens came to

earth that had the ability to

go through

universal progress to be a thing uh

what's your idea i know

that's true

wait wait hold on you just did it again

with the bad faith i never said anything

about

universal progress i don't know if

you're actually stupid or maybe you're

acting in a way to be stupid either way

you're acting fucking stupid right now

no really not really you're cool in

relation to

more contemporary civilizations

yeah that's

you said contemporary societies that's

the first thing and then the second

thing you said was that uh they don't

like their social order is more

uh what do you call it more backwards

sorry not backwards it's not as evolved

or developed

which is which doesn't even make sense

because there's no way to track uh the

quote development of a social order

unless you're doing it in the liberal

sense which i've demonstrated

civilizations that had better technology

and had a more regressive social order

in their liberal sense in the past okay

that's not even still due to this it's

not a universal that's the of course

there's nuance there i'm using the

definition of the word though it's in

relation to it's relative too

so

hold on you've talked enough now and

given all of us aids now let me explain

okay so if aliens came down to earth

right now and they had the ability to

teleport and time travel and go through

different realms and they had more

advanced technology

we would be considered primitive because

now we are defining ourselves

guys

700 000 subscribers

all i want is like a hundred thousand by

the way

i'm not that greedy

okay i i deserve like 10 million

right

but

yeah like

like aliens came and we would be

considered primitive dude it's so deep

so deep

so smart this is

you know what's crazy

i'm kind of sad man i always get called

stupid and dumb

i just felt dumb by people on twitter

and i'm like

what does smart look like to you like

okay is this smart to you

is this smart to you

is that is this what it means to be

smart

you know

what does that even mean

civilization the way in which we operate

relative to a much more superior and

advanced civilization therefore we would

then be defined as primitive that's why

it's relative

none of what i'm saying is racist none

of what i'm saying faults the people in

the clip it is in fact you chuckle fucks

who are consistently saying that it is

black people who are primitive when i

never said that

superior interesting interesting

superior in regards to the development

of the nation holy shit are you this

insane

interesting he said development of the

nation

yikes

in interesting what are the implications

of set supremacy if you want to

you know do a little funny with your

right hand i really listen i i don't

really appreciate the conversation what

i'm really sad about most is that you

know you kept saying like i'm going to

destroy you and what you're doing now is

misconstruing what i'm saying making up

what i've said no you're getting

destroyed

i could have tried to just be like oh

just the development of technology

literally said the development of the

nation

but

to then say i'm racist you're not

understanding words and because of your

own retardation you're now saying that

i'm the one who doesn't understand words

and lastly i said a superior developed

society in regards to aliens and you

brought that up to say oh hunter thinks

that white people are superior

so you can go fuck yourself cuckold bye

you you succeed wait you do

you think that aliens

you think that

in the same way that aliens would be

more superior to europeans

europeans are superior to the african

tribe that was the whole point of your

example like

you got me to rage quit congrats

what

that's it holy shit

banned

that was wow that was a special military

operation

25 minutes and 30 seconds

being a bad faith bitch

jesus christ honest to god i was trying

to have a good faith conversation you

could i was trying to explain

five tweets right now about how hunter

just got btf owed oh

and anyone that calls them out for

overusing the

raise bad faith yeah i said to ban the

trolls suck what i mean there's

something about our community

and i don't

i'm not the one who tells people to do

this

but sometimes our community just finds

random political streamers on twitch

and they just like run a train on them

like they just everyone takes turns i'll

debate him next i'll debate like

everybody starts go having a go at them

and debating them

and it used to be sansa was the

community like come dumpster or whatever

punching bag

but you know what i mean like everyone

just takes turns like the whole i don't

i don't even start it everyone just

decides to do it

to like i don't know

yeah

i'm i'm not the one who uh

i don't tell people to do this shit they

just they find an opponent that's so

weak and they just like everyone just

becomes unleashed on them

and everyone takes turns debating them

just because they're that weak

and it's like

not understanding and guys that shit is

mentally traumatizing like you know that

guy son-saul

he's mentally traumatized for life he

never forgot it

you guys scarred him mentally

and i didn't even know about it either

i've moved on after that debate i had

and i was like okay whatever

everyone i didn't know like that for

months you guys were bullying that guy

in fucking vc back to back in debates i

didn't know but you really did a number

on that one like that guy is

wow that guy

he never recovered

words

they project their own dumbassery

onto on to me they're like i don't

understand what primitive means or how

it's used in this context therefore

hunter is the one who is racist

that was funny hold on let me see i'm

i'm doing it boys i'm doing the cringe

name searching okay i'm gonna see if

anybody else has tweeted about it to see

if they're coping

ah yikes

yikes

this is not the community this is not

the beehive to poke hunter

this is not a

community to poke

this is not the beehive to poke and the

reason this is not the beehive to uh

oak is

cuz this community is used to

persecution we're used to being

outnumbered

which has made our community very

thick-skinned and very resilient and

very strong

so when we get one of these hyenas

that are divorced from their pack out

alone

you're dealing with the most savage

barbarians

ever and they will swarm on you in

fucking life okay

so yeah this is not the beehive to cake

okay

that's just my advice this is not the

this is not the community to like go on

twitter and like

yeah this hunter you're not yeah this is

a bad idea dude this is a bad idea

some communities have lol cows we

literally have

sacrificial

fucking lambs we literally

sacrifice people to ball we we are can

we're cannibals

we don't have wild cows people who have

lol cows

they just like

you know like they like

fuck with people like like you know

laugh at them whatever hahaha we

destroy people okay we mentally scar

people

and we sacrifice them like you don't

want to get on our radar

you don't want to get on our radar we're

not here to milk we're here

for the red kind of milk you know

nope not yet

they'll be back

the cope will be back

that was funny holy shit

well

oh well

i'm gonna take a quick break and then

we'll get into a topic okay

tanki's explaining how stalin did

nothing wrong yeah probably

the problem with a lot of these tankies

is that they have no strong father

figure in their life so they gravitate

towards people like stalin it's really

sad

uh

do you want to guess about how

strong hunter's father

figure was

i i just don't think we should go there

like i i really don't like uh hunter

i don't know um

if you had a father in your life at all

but i don't know what kind of job he did

raising you

if you turned out to be the way that you

did you know just to be honest

hey valkrie

11. thank you very much for the 5

donation i love you

um what did you say i joined to hear

that guy role playing as a minecraft

villager

take this for the brain cells

societies aren't inferior as hunters

my god

alien

civilization

as being yeah here we go that up to say

oh hunter thinks that white people are

superior

so you can go fuck yourself cuckold oh

you're right oops

oops oh mega kicked up is that it here i

thought this ellen degeneres person

wanted to talk my bad

all right well

omega kw that's all i can say that's

that's an omega kw

that's an omega kw

that's just an omega kick w

but i wanted to ask the chat

um

i wanted to ask y'all

do you think about me

do you think about me

i by the way we need to get the omega

kick w

and also i want everyone to salute

eat feet

the og

eat feet the og

and eat feet gave me a he

recommended me a camera to buy

which i'm going to get

i'm going to order it today or tomorrow

and he you know you don't need feet you

guys don't know about

what how much needfeed has helped

stream you know he just randomly

dms me like advice and he randomly dms

me tips

to do like how to do shit and stuff

and he's always been there always been

there

shout out to me og

but i wanted to ask the chat do you

think about me

do you think about me

um

thank you so much

come on up here

i summon thee

why do the donations not go through

we have two of them

i'll just read them then

fuck's sake

light of the twin lamps i found an

interesting avalon accuses tanki's

having daddy issues

when he sort out his debate with hawk

and dismissing the imports of dads i did

not know that thank you for the five

and then thank you so much core vega

starkiller

fact that these guys goes around trying

to be more masculine than the gorillas

is telling salute

thank you man appreciate you

thank you so much

yeah for some odd odd reason

the uh the stream labs alert function is

nearly

down

all right anyway i just wanted to ask

you guys

do you think about me

do you think about me

no

do you think about me

that's the question

i think streamlabs

something weird is going on

okay well regardless if you guys think

about me

server error what

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