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two things. One, the reason I couldn't

fucking hear that is because my audio is fucked up.

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on a separate channel that is broadcasting the output

of the media file and it's not actually on the desktop

audio file. So I couldn't hear it, but you could

so everything's fine. Gorilla with the Five, what's

up? We're going to be doing our Twitter space today. We're going to be cooking Groypers, but you could, so everything's fine. Gorilla with the five, what's up? We're going to be doing our Twitter

space today. We're going to be cooking groipers, but I

invite Daniel Tut to come on as well. I also want to talk,

oh, drama nation. It's like

this estrogenic male. He's just addicted

to fake drama that he makes up.

I have a few things to talk about.

One of the things is, guys, I'm kind of noticing, is 8.30 a good time?

Because I feel like when I stream late, the vibes are better.

And I feel like when I'm doing this

consistent 8.30 p.m.

y'all are just

on the low energy type of shit

I don't know. You have to show me

the higher, if you want me to keep

streaming at this time, you have to be just as high energy as you are when I'm late. You

can't show me no slow, low energy. Because if you show me that slow, low energy, I'm going to be

streaming later. You understand? Because I do the five minute intro. When we're doing it late,

it's like everybody's in here like that, right?

8.30 p.m.?

You guys just kind of drip feeding in.

It's just kind of like, I don't know, guys.

I'm not feeling it.

So if you want the streams to be that, I can do it.

I can do it.

I fix my sleep schedule schedule which is also related to

the fact that there's going to be a time limit for tonight's debate the last time I did one of

these I went for six hours because I don't want to give anyone an excuse I'm dodging this net

there's going to be

two maximum three hours allotted to the debate okay i and why because i have to maintain my

sleep schedule all right i'm going to lay out the rules uh when we actually start the space but

i want to talk about and address Daniel Tutt.

Daniel Tutt, I don't know how you look in the mirror and call yourself a man.

We don't know who you are, really.

We don't care about you.

Every time there's a whiff, a fart of made-up drama you start kicking your

feet and getting giddy like a little girl you're addicted you're a grown man who's like such a

gossip queen about fucking nothing.

And then when you finally say out in the open

whatever nonsense gossip you fucking heard

in the background that has led you to the point

where you're just so fucking butt hurt about us,

which by the way, we don't fucking care about.

You shit your pants in front of the world.

What did Daniel Tut say in public?

He said, oh, I have proof the ACP guys hacked me.

What?

Buddy, you're literally like getting high off of whippets in the background making shit up and then getting upset about it and you're like why i'm gonna tell you the truth

you guys hacked me the fuck are you talking about, buddy?

And then I remember it.

It's like, you know, I remember Daniel Tuts' account got hacked.

Then he reached out to one of us.

I think it was Carlos.

And he's like, hey, I know you guys are in contact with Elon Musk.

Can you get my account unbanned or unhacked?

And we weren't in con... We don't have any contact with Elon Musk.

And so he got fucking mad and crashed out on us

and like soied out because of this false presumption

we knew Yon Musk. Now I think

I remember Carlos telling me, I don't

fully fucking remember. Carlos

before he even met me

or met me or any Jackson, whatever,

and this was before

ACP started.

I think he might have told Tutt or someone else that Jackson, like, knows everybody.

Oh, yeah, Jackson knows Elon.

Jackson knows this, because he knew Jackson was this bit.

I think he told Danny Shaw

something about, oh, Jackson, get your account

on band. There must have been a misunderstanding.

Like, oh, maybe Jackson can

publicize, because he has

such a high reach. I don't know where Danny...

I'm trying to be like his good faith as possible. I don't know

where Daniel Tut got the idea that we can contact Elon Musk about anything, right? But he had it firmly

lodged in his fucking head and then we didn't oblige, now he's accusing us of being responsible.

Daniel, you're a fucking coward.

If you were a man, you would have reached out to one of us

and confronted us with whatever you have to fucking say.

Instead, you're just kicking your feet in the air like a little girl.

Because you enjoy gossip.

You enjoy drama.

You're just a...

How do you look in the mirror and call yourself a man

when you're just like,

who, who?

What's the tea girls?

What's the tea girls?

And it's just like fucking a crackhead

going on a crack binge,

like Danny or some shit.

Has bullied me man

and he's like fucking seven feet tall

and I'm 5'8

he's three times or two times

my age

Jesus Christ

you know I'm saying this because I remember

I remember during like the big

Oh, the big drama

last year.

Why did Daniel Tut like jump in on that shit?

Like what did he have to do with it?

He just loves it, man.

He's like, he's addicted to it. It's either that

or he's some weird fucking fed or

some shit. I don't know.

I did meet him in person.

And I remember

when Tut in person

he told me something along the lines.

Elite, what's up, bro?

Thank you so much, man.

I remember when he told me in person, something along the lines, he was like, oh, but I know you guys are working for Russia right

I was like because first it was like the Fed allegations against Jackson

I'm like look man I know Jackson this is ridiculous

like it was made up by these fucking weird people who we don't even know who they are

right they could be

feds. I told them, I know Jackson, I've known him personally

since 2021, when he

was not well known at all.

And, you know, I,

like me and Jackson

developed a shared worldview

by being in the industry

working together

and it's like I was there every step of the way

and then he's like no no you're misunderstanding me I don, you're misunderstanding me. I don't think Jackson is a

Fed. I think he's a Fed for Russia and China. And then he's like, come on, you can tell me, he's a Fed,

right, for Russia? He's working for Russia. He's like trying to goad me.

And by the way, like something that's not even true, by the way. But he was like, he was like really trying to goad me into like saying that or agreeing with him about that. And I'm like, yeah, dude, you glow like a lot.

Like, this is so glowy.

Like, what the fuck is this, right?

We, uh, I met up with him in Dearborn and we were outside sitting down.

And I remember it.

And he's like, yeah, Jackson works for Russia, right? Right? And he was like,

Jesus, I was like, Jesus Christ. Anyway, yeah, he's super weird and sketchy. And just, just like he moves,

you wouldn't expect it. He's like a big guy. And it's just so funny, like, how nature is, I guess.

Like, you just, you wouldn't expect this guy to be, like, such a little bitch.

But he actually is.

He's, like, such a behind-the like shifty like

you know in Game of Thrones that

bald eunuch like that's how he moves

and it's so like

shifty and I'm like buddy for what

you're just doing it for the kicks and thrills

of the drama where there's like literally

nothing going on.

Oh, we hacked you.

What are you talking about, dude?

And he's like, oh, I was, oh, I, oh, I, oh, I talked to.

And by the way, he's lying.

He never talked to anyone.

I'm just putting that out there.

He never talked to anyone. Don't ask me how I know that.. He never talked to anyone. I'm just putting that out there. He never talked to

anyone. Don't ask me how I know that. He didn't

talk to anyone, okay?

By the way,

trust me when I say that, he did not

talk to anyone.

That, like, the conversation he claimed he had with that woman he did not actually have

that's just like the funny part

like that never even happened

um i just find that funny.

He like totally made it up.

Like he completely made it up.

He like, he literally like just took a chance and was like maybe if I make this up.

He just did.

He made everything up.

It's really pathetic.

Maybe he got catfished or something.

He was talking to an anonymous impersonator like Red Misha.

But Daniel Tut, you are so pathetic, man.

You're so pathetic.

It's like you live for drama you live for fake gossip and drama and you know what i think he should stop pretending to be an academic he should just get a job at

tmz i'm sure you'll find it more exciting than what's going on here.

And he's accusing, he's claiming that we're working with Nick Fuentes.

Can you believe that?

He's fucking crazy.

He's like a schizo-tweaker

babbler at this point.

He's like, no,

uh, you guys are, you guys are

definitely

friends of Nick Fuentes.

Oh yeah, sure, buddy.

You're right.

Totally makes sense.

Then why don't you attack our ally please we invite you please join the war at least asan piker did but no they won't instead red bull what's up you know

what's funny these like sock them pieces of shit have been soft making overtures to ally with the

groipers against us by the way uh when i pointed out the ds a groiper merger thing that was fucking real

there were people in mug or sympathetic toug who started entertaining it. Even Donald himself was pretty sympathetic, actually, with the Groypers. Whenever we would attack them and Nick Fuentes, Donald would go after us. And there was kind of an implicit, like, wink, wink,

head nod thing going on.

Because these people are retarded and just got, like,

red-pilled about the JQ

six months ago.

And they're like, you know what?

It's okay to be a leftist and talk about Jewish power. And it's like, buddy, you're kind of overcorrecting a little bit. It's like, yeah, you could talk about Jewish power. You could talk about Jewish capitalists. You could talk about the Jewish Zionist lobby, which is not, which is obviously prominently, predominantly

Jewish.

Like, there's nothing wrong with that. I don't care.

You can talk about how Zionism is a Jewish supremacist ideology. That's not a, like,

that's, yeah, welcome to 2021, right?

But then they kind of

overcorrect and they want to be...

So many of these people felt for this trap. They want to be like

edgy hipsters and be like,

you know, Nick Flintes isn't so bad.

You know, he's not so bad. And it's like,

you're a fucking retard. You just got red-pilled three months ago. And you're now over-correcting. And you don't have a lay of the land like we do. Infrared, abandoned naive, libtard leftism four years ago, right?

We have a lay of the land, meaning we can map out among the dissident sphere who is like a bitch

shill of the regime, and who is, who is somewhat

promising, who is somewhat principled, who is genuinely a fascist, and who is just kind of

confused and misguided? We have a correct lay of the land. So when we tell you

that Nick Fuentes and the Groypers

are enemies, and when

we're beefing with them, there's a good

fucking reason for that. We have been

the communists in the dissident space

for years. We

know who is misguided and who is an opportunist piece of shit

potentially fed. We know that distinction very well. And we've known that Nick Fuentes was a

dishonest, bad faith actor. We've known that he Fuentes was a dishonest bad faith actor.

We've known that he's a shill of the regime.

We've known that he is a shifty character for a long time.

But if they don't trust us, they go, you know what?

We're going to go dark DSA.

We're going to go dark woke and surpass you infrared.

Look at Sneko voting for Zoron, Mom Donnie.

Donald Redditson was bragging about that.

Even Sneco is voting for it.

And it's like, buddy, you don't have a lay of the land.

Shut the fuck up.

You don't understand what you're talking about.

You're not cool and edgy.

You're just a fucking idiot who got, who's overcorrecting because you were like an extreme libtard for years.

And now you want to go dark or

whatever. Dark woke.

Shut the fuck up. Literally shut the fuck up.

Yeah, we, we can, I could

tell you straight up. Like I, there's a lot

of people I just think are misguided.

And, you know, even people who claim to be

pro hitler you know they you could say they have wrong views about history but when they're

absolutely correct about their positions now when it comes to venezuel when it comes to uh iran when it comes to palest now when it comes to Venezuela, when it comes to Iran, when it comes to Palestine, when it comes to opposing the genocide happening now, a lot of the time you could say these people are misguided.

And that's a funny thing because so many people cancel me because, you know, I engage with thinkers like Heidegger or whatever. I know no one cares or whatever, but just think about this for a second. It's like the same people doing that are influenced by Moishi Postone, who is zionist but nazi germany is gone it was dead it's it's defeated

it's crushed defeated and destroyed and the zionist genocide is still happening so it's a lot worse to be a follower of a Zionist like Moisei Postone, who's much worse.

Why?

Because Heidegger never claimed to be a Marxist.

In fact, Heidegger would be disgusted and repulsed by what I am doing to his thinking.

It's almost like I'm fucking his wife. And by the way, that's what LaConn did, literally. He was a cuck.

Heidegger would have been disgusted with how I've twisted and, like, drawn these inadvertent conclusions from his discovery.

Probably he would have been.

And just like Lacan fucked his wife,

it's almost like that's what I'm doing, right?

Yeah,

was either Lacan or Batai

who fucked his wife, I forget.

Anyway,

but, you know,

he's,

Nazi Germany's gone.

And it's, and Moisei Postone is much worse because he's trying to, he was pretending that the consistent Marxist view is pro-Zainist.

That being pro-Palestine is irreconcilable with Marxism, his entire notion of structural

anti-Semitism, of industrial versus financial, whatever, like this was a disgusting twisted,

it's almost like Post-Oen was trying to fuck Marxism.

And you're a cuck for Zinus if you follow Postone, right?

And so

it's just kind of pathetic.

Yeah, that weird guy was in the Epstein files, the French guy.

That's so weird.

That's so fucking weird.

I don't want to get into it.

How is it not well known that Lacan

fucked Heidegger's wife? It's pretty true.

I think Heidegger was not a good person.

Okay, first of all, I don't know how that's not established.

I just think that he raised questions that deserve to be answered, and he didn't answer them the right way.

I just feel like that's not, that shouldn't be too controversial.

And everyone, you know, for example, I've been kind of reading Al Thucer again and going back into Louis Althusser.

Because I realize how much I take for granted from Louis Althusser. Louis Al Thusser. Because I realized how much I take for granted from Louis Althusser.

Louis Althusser was a huge influence on the young Haas, for sure, before my epistemological

break, so to speak.

Louis Al Thusser

was a major influence. I think I was

a partisan of Althusser for a long time

because that's how I started.

That's what stopped me

from becoming a Chomsky-Libtard

leftist. Was Althusair

actually. It's not Dugan. It's not Heidegger. It's not Carl Schmitt.

Why does everyone make a big fuss over Carl Schmidt, by the way? Really bad. Like, as if

Carl Schmidt is this major influence on me. Carl Schmidt has not influenced me more than he has left-wing academia.

If I cite him, you know, if I'm crafting a counter-Schmidtian political science,

which is from the POV of the partisan and not the counterpartisan, which is what he was.

I could hardly be blamed for that.

I think it's just all a little bit ridiculous.

Can we, in the big 2026, we're doing this in the big 26.

You know, Daniel Tutte is so pathetic.

In the big 26, we're still doing this.

Daniel Tut, can you just stop pretending to be, like, committed to Marxism in any way?

And just admit you're a fascist or a fascist enabler and collaborator or a highly

estrogenic gossip male gossip queen UKA what's up and I actually I have a I have a different theory

I'm not meaning to offend anyone but I have a different theory.

I'm not meaning to offend anyone,

but I have a different theory.

I notice how estrogenic Daniel Tut is. I notice

how much he's just like obsessed.

Why does it seem like I'm wearing

a fucking turtleneck?

Uh, I know it just seems like he's like super obsessed with drama.

He's so giddy and giggly and he's just kicking his feet up in the air.

Uh, every time like someone farts and, and the fart sounds like it might be like, you know, what's the T? What's the T?

And I realized something. How does he look in the mirror and call himself a man? Well, maybe he doesn't.

I think we could conclude perhaps Daniel Tut is trans. That's what I think. I think he's a trans. And I'm not here to hate. I want peace.

I hope that brings in peace.

Pursue that.

Solve your thing and then you'll be at peace with yourself.

Because he's down a path of self-destruction right now.

Right now he's going down a path of self-destruction right now. Right now he's going down a path of self-destruction.

I think he should just own up to his true self, which is not a man.

And I don't really want to insult woman by saying he's a man. And I don't really

want to insult woman by saying

he's a woman, but maybe we can meet

somewhere in the middle

and say he's a something else.

UKO, what's up?

But yeah,

this is just pathetic. Honestly i i challenge him to come in the space tonight

and uh face me i would say face me like a man but clearly there's no man on earth who's

this invested and just i don't know a man, but clearly, there's no man on earth who's this

invested and just,

I don't know.

What's that song from Abba?

Gossip Queen!

Or is that a different song?

The Gossip Queen. There's got to be a gossip queen

song, right?

Oh, that's a dancing queen. My bad.

My mistake.

Anyway, let's start the space.

These are so easy, by the way, to bait retards doing these spaces because uh all i have to say is

debating the far right and it they all get baited into like, it's such a powerful meta.

I said this last time.

So I'm going to name the space that again.

And here's where I need your guys' help and we can't be messing around, right?

Everyone needs to link or boost the space. And don't worry, it's going to get deleted.

I'm going to link it here. You have to boost the space. You have to retweet it. Hold on.

You don't have to join it, though. I'm not saying join it. You can stay and stay in kick, okay?

I prefer everyone. I only want the, ideally only the challengers would be in the space, to be honest, you know?

Hold on.

Let me edit this.

That's not the post.

Okay, guys, you're going to need to boost this post.

And this is no joke, guys.

This is so important.

This is so important this is so

this is everything depends on

everyone needs to

boost this

and the reason you have to boost it is because

no one's going to see it if you don't

you have to boost the post

and I will long guys if you don't. You have to boost the post.

And I will... Long guy!

What's up, buddy?

And I'm gonna show y'all your performance.

Okay, 57 likes...

It's not the greatest I've ever seen in my life.

Gossip Queen, Daniel Tut, he's the gossip queen.

It's so funny because he didn't even talk to any he just made that up

anyway guys boost it we gotta boost it to a lot

you can get this the impressions are 61 views on ex

how are there more likes than impressions that's what I want to know

anyway Kyle will be co-hosting this wonderful space

so that he can see the people that I cannot.

And we're going to be cooking the far right.

I'm going to have to repeat this many times. Okay, Osos, what's up, bro?

Appreciate you, Osos. Repeat this many times because everyone got confused last time and they're

like, Who's deleted the space? Okay, I do these more or less every week.

I do not record these spaces on X.

The reason I do not record these spaces on X is because I am using an app called Blue Stacks

to do this through desktop, a very buggy and unreliable app.

So instead of bothering to record this through X, a very buggy and unreliable app. So instead of bothering to record this through X, which is buggy and broken,

if you want to access this space after it's done,

you have to go to kick.com slash infrared,

and I will not delete the VOD.

The VOD will be there.

But two things are going to happen when the space ends.

There will not be a recording.

It's not being recorded right now on X.

Okay, so there's not going to be one.

Second of all, to preserve my algorithmic purity, I delete the post.

So every time I do this, I will delete the post of this space when it's done.

I delete it off my timeline.

Okay.

And second of all, very important, it's not recorded on X. I'm not deleting the X

recording. There isn't a recording on X. It's not on record. It's only recording through Kik. Why? Because

you join Kiktocklam slash infrared.

That's how you fucking access my content, bitch.

Not through X.

Kick.com slash infrared.

Okay.

It will be there.

So ones if you hear me loud and clear because people get

fucking confused about this every time this is going to be a heated lit fucking debate

I'm going to be dog walking groipers in the far right but after it's, you know what they're going to say?

They're going to say, you deleted the space.

Nothing was deleted.

Nothing's being recorded on X.

Second of all, this post on my timeline will be deleted and removed afterwards because it's protocol i do it every

fucking time everything is going to be on my kick channel everyone got that okay perfect

perfect okay so uh you know i feel like last time i debated the far right there were a lot of mouthy people who had a lot to say, trying to talk shit on me. I don't know why people try to talk shit about me. When I will literally send you crying in your bed, you'll cry yourself to sleep. Oh yeah, the third thing. I want to say one last

thing.

There's going to be

a time limit on

the space.

I'm ending it

in exactly two

hours.

Two hours.

The space is

going to end in two hours.

So anyone who

says, oh, you

ended the space.

No, no.

I ended it

because the two-hour time limits are.

It's going to end in two hours.

Anyone who wants to debate me has to do it within this two-hour window.

Why?

Because I'm not going to fucking stay up and ruin my sleep schedule for this shit.

So, space is going to last two hours.

It's not being recorded on X.

You can find it on kick.com slash infrared.

I will delete the post off my timeline when it's done.

Okay?

So, and Kyle disconnected on accident, probably, or because it glitched.

That's why I'm saying X is glitchy as fuck.

I don't bother with it because it's a piece of shit when it comes to desktop.

So we're going to start bringing people up.

We're going to be cooking these groopers and we're going to start bringing people up. We're going to be cooking these groipers, and we're going to make them answer for the truth, which is their entire world view and ideology was created by the Jewish pedophile Jeffrey Epstein.

And they're like, oh, you mean the Jews want me to hate them?

Yeah, some of them do that want that because it bolsters Zionism. Congratulations. Yes, the billionaire Jew Epstein, who's in bed with the British monarchy

and the entire fucking global ruling class doesn't care about the well-being of some random Jew with a hat in fucking New York

who's in the tunnel or some shit. He doesn't care about that guy. He cares about his fellow capitalists.

You see how their entire worldview is fucked.

They don't understand

the only tribal

solidarity that exists

is within

the capitalist class.

And everyone else is

going outside of them. They see everyone else as the goyim,

including some of the Jews in the tunnels, whatever they're doing in New York. They're also

going in their eyes, you know? And that's just the truth

but anyway

you know

and it's just like I've been

we're the most vindicated

online community of all time

because we're the only ones not implicated by the Epstein files.

The Libthard left was implicated via Noam Chomsky.

And that's the entire DSA.

I'm saying the entire DSA, because isn't it Chomsky who created this retarded idea that you could

be a socialist while rejecting

20th century communism?

I consider the Soviet Union

as a betrayal of Social...

I'm happy the Soviet Union's gone. It's one of the

authoritarian capitalist countries

gone. Now it's, shut the authoritarian capitalist countries gone.

Now it's shut the fuck up, you fucking disgusting fuck.

You know, he gave a speech saying he was glad the Soviet Union collapsed.

When that event itself is what catalyzed the sex trafficking that Jeffrey Epstein's entire network thrived off of.

What a disgusting old fuck.

What about the sales they have in, yeah, I'm not saying all the Jews in New York are innocent by any means.

I'm not saying that.

I'm just saying Jeffrey Epstein cares less about some random Jew than, you know, than his cabal of ruling

capitalist elites.

So obviously he doesn't care if he's creating

an ideology that is

you know,

apparently anti-Jewish.

And it's so funny because the Nick,

you know, the Nick Flentes J-Qers,

that version of it,

they're not even against the Jewish elites.

They're just against Judaism as a religion.

Like, I could give fuck all about that. They're like, well, I'm just against Judaism as a religion. Like, I could give fuck all about that.

They're like, well, I'm just against Judaism as a religion, but you know, I still support Israel.

And it's like, what?

What is this a fucking theology debate?

You know, what about the concrete power structures that exist it's like there's you literally have the Jeffrey Epstein

regime

he's a due

you would think this is a layup for them

but no no Epstein's actually okay i just have a problem with the

uh the theological disputes of the you know the the the Torah and the what

yeah you have you they have beef with the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the ones

that wear hats and have the curly hair that's the that's the ones they're beefing with they're

beeping with the ones that wear the hats and have the curly hair on their sides.

They're not beefing with Jeffrey Epstein and the fucking actual, like, billionaire Jewish

capitalists.

They're beefing with just random Jews.

Like, literally, you know who else does that?

Schizophrenics on the sidewalk.

It's the same shit.

There's a global Jew agenda.

I mean, if you're, if you mean a global Zionist agenda, I

agree.

That is like predominantly Jewish,

I agree. I'm not denying that at all.

I am not denying that. I'm just

saying when people ask the question, why did Jeffrey Epstein promote pole and 4chan when that itself was a place where a lot of JQ ideas were born?

Well, because the specific way that they're JQing doesn't happen

to threaten

the concrete

Jewish

elites whatsoever

or any

of the elites

for that matter

all it does

is create

confusion

and you know

it promotes it promotes

it promotes it promotes racialism if anything you know just general racialism so that's why you know if people don't understand the contradiction

but you know these people have to face the facts they were conned and bamboozled for a decade

or more probably more it was what 2011 is when it was created, Paul.

And then some people say, well, Paul wasn't the beginning of neo-Nazism on the Internet.

Okay.

But what created the alt-right that actually became relevant in 2015, 2016?

It wasn't these random fucking neo-Nazis.

There was a fucking forum for anything in the early 2000s.

Oh, there were the neo-Nazi forums before.

Okay, there was fucking forums for people that worship toenails.

I could literally just freestyle, make some shit up in my head right now, and it existed.

There was subforms for people that pooped in a Ziplog bag and threw it at postal workers.

That existed.

Literally anything your imagination can think of.

There was a community online for it. All right?

So that's as simple as that. Okay, Windows 95 is them.

Let's bring them up.

Yo.

Yo.

Hello. Hello.

Hello. Is this on.

It's my first time using the app. I'm sorry.

All right. After you're done apologizing, do you have anything to say?

Oh, yes.

No, I'm sorry, I want one more

apology for that. Sorry, it just doesn't cut it.

I'm sincerely

I apologize. It's my first time using

X-App. I'm not a Groyper, by the way.

All right. I don't have it as far as I don't. I think

Nick Fuentes is a retard.

Yeah, the only thing I would say is I would disagree

that poll explicitly was made

as you would say, like,

I guess you would say like the launch guess you say like

the launch pad is the alt-right because

at that time there was a news board

on 4chan and then

that mood at the time was

conversing with a lot of people because he had a startup

called Canvas I believe believe, around 2012.

And so he probably...

So when Jeffrey Epstein said that this moot guy will be useful, and then the same day he launched Paul, what did that mean?

What was he referring to?

What? What was you referring to? What?

What was the utility of that?

Was it just a coincidence?

Because news at the time

he didn't have a...

So Stormfront was also

being known present on what was known as

the news board at that time

he also launched many other

boards such as R9K

HC which is hardcore pornography

DUI do it yourself

Jeffrey Epstein

He talked about

how he had plans

to do something

game changing

with this guy

so they met

and then the same day

he launched poll

was that a coincidence

if it was two days later

but they also had

already had previous discussions

not Epstein

and moved but moved with other admins

because the admins are very public

you can actually find their Twitter accounts

found for that 4chan guy

because he said they had a utility well

you can say whatever you want but moot's also been

bankrupt many times I passed

he used to have donate and die which is he had

a beg for money multiple times

all the credit cards and everything else from him.

Yeah, okay.

Is Epstein just a nice guy?

Why did he help out that guy?

Just for free?

Well, we don't know what,

we don't know what they helped out with.

I understand that you're saying that,

yes,

two days later,

poll was launched after

they had a conversation

about conversation these they said they had some type

of utility just like

Maxwell was the head moderator

of Reddit or whatever she was like a super

mod so I understand it would have a conversation

with Mood, but I just don't think

there's a specific connection

to Epstein himself

in that direct conversation.

You want to know the nuclear bomb

that makes a connection.

In his private

correspondences Epstein

had the exact ideology

that became popular

on poll same one

now I wouldn't say it was a catalyst

I think like my moholy is I don't think it was like I like I think like my mohmo hold up is I don't think

it was like I'm not a coincidence man Epstein in his emails was pushing the HBD shit he believed in a

fascist dictatorship viewed the majority of people subhuman.

He kept trying to convince Bill Gates to stop Africans from breeding.

He wanted to come up with plans to kill most of the people, poor people, remove them, or stop them from reproducing. He absolutely was a eugenicist.

And in private, he discussed very often his disdain for the fact that poor people and lesser

races were able to participate in politics and other things.

This guy was a chud.

And how do we interpret the fact that Epstein had 4chan's views on a personal private level

that he met the founder or whatever and said in private emails that he's going to be a great utility

and then like on the same day poll gets launched

and then it only takes a few years

for GamerGate to happen

and then you get the alt-right

and then you get Trump

and then you get

the biggest political change in the history

of U.S.

Gamer Gamergate originally was

on what was the video games board

and the video games board for most of its

4chan's existence

was the most popular board

but I can understand what

you are inferring and what

the predictions and the cause of events

what about Steve Bannon wasn't he best friends

with Jeffrey Epstein

what about Breitbart

it's not just there's one connection

there's so many connections. There's so many connections.

So many connections.

Awfully suspicious.

Awfully, this is all right.

I just know as people have talked to. As a true refined anti-Semite, it's of my judar is kind of going off i know like right

i i understand right things just the things but as knowing like the chaotic history of essentially

even during that time time period

because they used to call it, I hate to say,

can I say the F word on this stream?

Is that, is that okay?

I get fag.

Okay.

He's called storm fags, like on 4chan,

and they wanted a separate board for them,

and there was that many complaints during the time where people email the mods, we need a place for the stormfags to go,

because they're on stormfront, and they're shitting up the newsboard, and we want a separate containment area for them.

I understand you can say, yes, they did objectively meet with Epstein on that day

and two days later they make the

politics board as a containment

board. I just

don't personally see that just

because there's other boards that were relaunched

that day.

Personally, also I also had to get money because what do you just get, was he just being

accused also at the time trying to do a startup.

You have a startup.

Look, I don't know.

This is like semantics.

You're saying, well, there was those other Nazi forums before

whole.

Well, they were irrelevant.

They were on there to

like the 4chan type

what you want to say like Nazis or whatever

or the did exist on 4chan that type what you want to say like Nazis or whatever or

did exist unfortunately at that point

they just didn't have a board they just didn't have a board or an area they can

converse with i'm aware they existed of course all sorts of people exist

okay but they did not become

the Nick Fuentes

quarter zip

until after poll.

Yes, that was very much

McQuentes until pool.

Yeah, Fentis came from poll.

No doubt about that.

Yeah, I'm not arguing that he's a

he's a birth child of

2013 2015

pole whatever

Pepe whatever

mm-hmm

I just don't think

the origin of him

so I win.

There we go.

C.

Orthodox writer, developer,

passionate in...

What the fuck is this?

Classical Romance and Courtship.

Wait, can I ask you a question?

What do you think about the song?

Let me buy you a drink.

Is that a classical courtship and romance do you recommend

Yeah it's a badass

I drive with it

It's modern days

Sing this song

You gotta write me a son

Okay what is What's your deal what is, what's your deal?

What's it?

I was asking.

Your mic is cancerous.

Can you stop with his fucking feedback?

This is awful.

Yeah, give me one second.

All right, you know, what's up? Can you read?

Yeah.

Yeah.

No, yeah, I still hear my own voice, which I don't want to hear right now.

I need to get, you need to get rid of that feedback

yeah what's up should be better now all right what's your deal um so london's imperial criticism i've read that some people think it's ad hoc sorting what do you think about that

it's a great piece do you think it's uh ad hoc refutation of metaphysics?

What do you mean by ad hoc?

What do you mean by ad hoc?

So like a presupp guy would say that... A what guy?

Presup.

A what?

Like, transcendental argument kind of guy.

Presa?

Presupp, presuppositional.

Oh, presuppositional.

Oh, pre-sup.

Okay.

Yes.

Okay.

So, we might say that he's choosing to hold on to metaphysics as ontology to squareways position, which might come off as ad hoc.

What is so difficult about the position that people jibber, that petter-ass gibbering in robes in the bathhouse is a waste of everyone's time.

And that practices the criterion of truth.

What's wrong with that?

I get that, yeah.

I was considering because when we go up to racialist metaphysics like they end up

doing an internal critique on our own ontology like what are we to say can you what do you mean by that so if we go talk to a guy who has defined racialist metaphysics

he might end up saying something like uh lennon's ontologies ad hoc

What do you mean ad hoc?

What does that mean ad hoc?

It's just not grounded.

Like it's just chosen.

He doesn't really

grounded in anything.

I think you said before that...

Why does it need to be grounded in anything when practices the criterion of truth?

Well, then a racial metaphysics guy would just say that his ontology is more grounded and defined than what is necessary

to live on earth or something.

I don't think it's grounded in

anything but his own farts.

What is it grounded in?

Materially, what's it grounded in?

Or essentially...

I think they use Nietzsche?

Huh?

Do they use Nietzsche?

Nietzsche is not some like comprehensive, rigorous

systemic philosopher.

Yeah.

So I don't know how they could say

they have a grounded...

I mean, look, at the end of the day, everything is in the now, okay?

Everything's happening right now.

It's almost like imagine this.

Imagine, imagine somebody just busts into your house, right?

What are you going to do about it?

You're just going to sit and fart or are you going to do something about it?

Well, the goal of real theory, the goal of real theory, the goal of theory is supposed to be to clarify the situation we're in right now.

And how do we respond to history?

How do we respond to reality as it is now, right?

And then someone can sit in the corner and say,

well, let me think about how the metaphysical grasp of my poo-poo fart noises are in the it's like this is a cowardly way to run away from reality that's all it is yeah and how do they blackmail us that this is necessary with absurdism they just say how do you know that there's a now or why are you presupposing that there's a past and a future that's like the past?

How do you have, how does anyone have a sufficient level of knowledge to take a step in one direction or even to to fart how do we have

sufficient knowledge to utter a word and make sounds with our voices how do we have sufficient

knowledge to be fucking anything or do anything at the end of the day we are

thrown into a reality of practice before anything and and before we know our first word

we're thrown into a reality before we are able to take our first step, we are.

And before we know about the minutia of how, you know, the muscular, skeletal, physiological details that go into how you walk, you learn how to walk first. So what I'm trying to say with this is that this notion, this notion of knowledge that is detached from practical existence and practical reality. And practice i don't mean utility i mean our

actual embedded existence as real living beings embedded in a specific way that conditions our ability

to survive and breathe and learn language and speak language and and react to

others around us none of these things are premised by some kind of abstract vacuum sealed

contemplation of pure thought.

Thought is in a constant

suspended relationship

with practice. Now, some

philosophers who were petter-Ras

in ancient Greece, and that's what

they were doing. They were pederast, like Diddy

and Epstein. They pretended like they didn't depend on any practical existence because slaves were doing all the work for them. So they would sit around and literally fart around and pretend like reality began and ended with their thoughts

because they didn't know what the reality of practice was because the slaves were doing it

for them because they were a lazy people lazy welfare garrieeks that makes sense

yeah that's an interesting way to think about it

it's the correct

how would you answer the

myth of the given then

it's not a myth

there's no myth of the given

there is a given all right i think i mean i

will ford's cellars is just wrong there is a given yeah the the the the consciousness should be devoted to understanding the given, to discovering the given.

Because the given is not a given construct of thought.

The given is a specific both historically and materially determined necessity that conditions the horizon of what thought could possibly be or even refer to as language. What does language? What do words

refer to themselves? No, words refer to things. They refer to determinations. They refer to dispositions.

They refer to feelings. They refer to emotions. They refer to specific material

quandaries, if you will. Yeah. They don't refer to pure thoughts or themselves or, you know, what Plato thought, which is Jesus Christ, in my stream end?

I think you're still up.

All right.

Fucking.

All right. Then I don't know why Why the fuck is stream labs giving me this retarded shit? Hold on

All right, I don't know

Stream Labs is showing me zero views.

Zero viewers.

So when that happens, it usually ends.

But I guess we're good.

I'm pulling up kick.

Yeah, okay.

It's all good.

Anyway, yeah, that's really it.

That's an interesting way to think about it i'm basically i don't know if you notice

i'm reenacting the jy dire debate uh i'm trying to answer the questions that didn't get really

answered oh but well he you know it's funny because he's this like Christian guy.

You know, in the Bible, at least in the Old Testament, the word knowledge was used synonymously with fucking.

It was a specific passage where they said,

and he came to know her.

Went onto her.

Yeah.

Wait, what?

It's a different verse that went into her,

went onto her.

Yeah, but he came to know her, right?

Yes.

And it's like, if this is how they were using knowledge, how far have we fallen in our understanding

of what it means to know when it's so sanitized and abstracted from our embedded existence materially as human beings, that it solely

refers to the criteria of thought imposes upon itself in order to be absolutely certain of that,

which it could not possibly be, because it only has itself to measure and refer to, right?

Ultimately, when we are confronted with the question of what thought is, we have to reckon with the reality and i i subscribe to a strong anthropic principle which means

the reality of thought implies a specific structure of cosmos according to which the emergence of thought is itself necessary. Now the weak anthropic principle says, no, not necessary, just possible. I say no, necessary. And when we're working from a strong anthropic principle, then when we ask the question of what thought is, we are in the realm of ontology, I agree, for sure.

Yeah.

But we make an error when we get into metaphysics.

When we cease to investigate the question of thoughts antipode or all that has culminated into the possibility of thought, which is precisely the opposite of what thought is, right? And try to create orders based on the self-relation of thought itself, which no one did more comprehensively than Hegel, by the way.

So you would say that there is a, like a nature and humanity in which the anthropic possible

sorry the anthropic what is it called

the strong anthropic

principle is mutually intelligible

to everyone so you don't have to

you a nowhere is given

because everybody understands the same way in that that's what being human is Mm-hmm. Thank you. They can't hear me now The I'm

The The I'm

It's

I'm

Just The saying it's

hello how about now

you just came back in

in the on x you just came back in on X

on kick

oh yeah on kick

guys there's nothing wrong with my mic

it's working on X

and it's working on stream labs

as far as it's filling up the bar.

I don't know what the fuck is going on with it.

There's nothing wrong with his mic, okay?

So I don't fucking know.

Anyway, yeah, look, what I was trying to say is I think, yes, that's why I disagree with analytical philosophers, because all language implies the communication of what can't be communicated, which is unconscious.

That's just implicit in all human communication. communicated, which is unconscious.

That's just implicit in all human communication.

And there is a kind of... I don't want to get into a philosophy of language

or whatever but it's like

the notion that

you can systematize

meaningfulness is just

impossible. You can't.

It's like well math

is a universal language and it's like well only if we accept certain parameters where we bracket all of what's going on in the background uh in communication and we can establish that's what's going on, sure, but that itself requires the communication

unconsciously. For example, if someone was engaging in mathematical, you know, mathematical, I don't know how I would put it.

If they were trying to communicate in the mathematical way and it wasn't prior established what's going on, you might not necessarily know what the

fuck they're doing, right? What if they're not using the same, the similar? Same numerals. What if they're not

using, you know

it has to there needs to be this context

that's established right

yeah

so yeah

all communication implies

the communication of

unspeakable realities that

are just shared intuitively.

And of course, that's not automatic.

It's a process to

truly communicate, but

that's the object of communication

and language. It's not

words. It's what those words refer to, and the thing those words refer to ultimately cannot be contained by words themselves.

I think that works in a materialist paradigm.

That's really interesting.

Would you recommend reading anyone besides Lenin's Imperial Criticism and Hegel about this specifically?

Um... specifically? Um,

I can't necessarily because I don't fully agree with them, but you know, actually

Slavoie Zhij Louis Althusser

are barking up the right tree

you know

I could say that

okay

I'll check that out

thank you

yeah

yeah I'm saying

Jay Dyer's a retard

I'm just saying

he's a full blown retard

full blown retard I mean I think you guys are just talking is a retard. I'm just saying he's a full-blown retard.

Full-blown retard. I mean... I think you guys are just talking past each other. No, he's...

He is fully knows what he's doing. He knows

he would have gotten out class by me, because

I'm somebody... She doesn't encounter

much. Somebody knows what he's talking about.

He knew what he was doing.

I mean, he did not want to debate me, point blank.

He...

I remember that.

He wouldn't even let me get a word in.

Yeah.

The minute the actual debate or whatever started,

after I called him out for being

a bitch for trying to warm his way

out in the way he did

every time I tried to

like respond to anything he said he was just interrupt

me wouldn't even let me get a word in

so the guy and then he kicked me after two minutes

right?

So, yeah, this, yeah, he's a fucking complete bitch, retard.

I don't know why any respects this guy.

Sorry.

Do you remember the debate you did with the logo and those two quote-unquote Nazi guys from like Keith Woods. I listen to that one all the

time. I remember one of the guys asked

like an actual question that seemed to stump you a little bit and then they

started throwing the N word around and they ruined it.

Wait, what questions stumped me?

Um, I think it was, I think it was a practical question, statecraft about like, what are we to do about like say Muslims living in a

Christian country or something and like

it took a second for you to give an answer

yeah I tried because I tried to respond intelligently

and yeah

my mistake I didn't know

like I was dealing with like a

circus of like actual

subhuman retards

so

yeah it was crazy

yeah anyway I'm going to bring up

Archer and then we'll bring

all right

Archer, go ahead

The noticing will continue

Until morale improves

You know, Archer, I noticed something myself

Which is that

The whole

In the entire lineage of the Fuentes movement

Goes back to Jeffrey Epstein

That's what I noticed

what do you mean by that well Jeffrey Epstein pretty much strategized to create

poll Nick Fuentes was raised off a pole oh you have a fortune yeah and now he's

selling the Epstein quarter zip.

So the father, the son returns to the father.

Gotcha.

What's, is your, uh, I really kept up with your Fuentes takes when it comes to this, um,

Epstein stuff.

Mm-hmm.

What's your...

It feels like there's like a lot of angles.

People are coming at him at this point.

You know what I think?

I think he's a agent of the French government.

Unironically, someone pointed this out.

Guys, I forgot to tell you about this

In the Epstein emails

Epstein literally said

Macron is my guy

He's like I own everyone

In the Macron government

And Macron is my guy

And I'm like, whoa And then remember this and Macron is my guy.

And I'm like, whoa.

And then remember the Fuentes Macron government connections?

We kind of explored like how

randomly that guy in France supposedly killed himself

and then gave him $250,000

in Bitcoin and how

like he suspiciously defended Macron

randomly like two years ago when the

right wing uprising happened

like literally I was talking about when it was

against Candace when she was no no

before then before then, before then.

I don't know.

There was this kind of right-wing

protest against Macron,

anti-immigrant, right?

And for some reason, like,

Nick Fuentes supported Macron.

He was like, yeah, I hope Macron crushes them.

It's like, huh?

It's like, well, isn't Macron like a Rothschild

banker or whatever?

And he was like, no, you don't get it.

And then there was

the weird kind of like

pro-EU line he has.

And then as soon as like shit started getting serious between France and Russia, he like started going after Russia, right?

There is not been a single instance of Fuentes being out of lockstep with Macron.

That's what I mean.

That's what I mean.

Like there's no exceptions.

And then the reason he started coming after me in Jackson with the Third worldism thing was because of Burkina

Faso and because of Mali right and who is threatened by those African states France

like France got super fucked, right?

They're former French colonies and they're fucking over French economic interests.

And then it's like, and then, and then yes, the Candace stuff for sure.

Super weird how he like got super triggered by Candice going after the McRons Okay that's not weird

Are you serious? She's like completely schizo

Yeah anything she says is reliable

Yeah okay he's that's where he drew the schizo line really

What about all their retarded shit people were saying, calling

me Jewish, calling Stalin Jewish?

Like, there was so much stupid

slop going on that he didn't...

I've never heard somebody call you Jewish. I didn't hear that.

Yeah, I don't think that... It's still...

Anyway, look, there's so much

retarded schizophrenia before Candace, and Nick Fuentes only started giving a shit about it when the McRons were in the crosshairs.

Yeah, because frankly, okay, that is, I mean, somebody calling you Jewish is not on the same scale as Candace Owens live streaming to millions of people

like pretty much

splitting up this whole right side,

the whole right wing.

How is she splitting it?

Even if she was wrong about the McRons,

where's a split?

Why are the McRons like contentious?

Well, I'm not going to talk about that in particular.

I mean, look at the, uh, look at the, uh,

Charlie Kirk stuff, you know?

No, but that's all settled because I,

because I did it, right?

Because Nick Fuentes solved the case when he said that ACP did it and

Haas did it.

So it's okay.

Before we get to Kirk, I just want to say the French connection, nobody ever investigates it.

Nobody ever talks about it.

Well, I think there's a really critical piece of the puzzle missing, which is that they both prefer men and dresses.

Yeah, that's who.

I think the chunk of money and Bitcoin from that guy is like the only maybe reliable thing.

But then why does he always lockstep have the exact position

as Emmanuel Macron on everything

that happens in the world?

I barely hear him talk about Macron.

I don't really think

you...

Look into it, man.

Just try to start noticing

and you might notice something.

You might notice connections.

Dude, I just... I don't think you talk about that.

There's something going on with that.

Maybe, maybe that's like, he sees it as like a Catholic monarchist Larp because Macron is, I don't know, a crypto monarchist.

But in any case, uh, something weird and funky is going on.

I don't know. Again, I think the main thing,

especially when it came to the candor stuff, is that he doesn't want

to taint the entire right,

the right wing and this whole movement

with some schizo nonsense. That's plain and simple what it is.

Oh, yeah.

Because beforehand it was just like so

level-headed and totally

sane, totally rational

before Candace.

Oh yeah, I mean the foundational beliefs

are fucking schizophrenic retardation from the

dude he was the pole guy what you mean you mean like the biggest schizo on the fucking internet

okay i don't know what i mean by that but yeah no the the foundational beliefs like the things

that are are um you, going to be typically promoted or talked about him.

Yeah, like how Stalin killed 500 trillion people in the Holodomor, and the Jewish guy, Yagoda, was behind all of it.

Well, no, I mean, they mean they got shot like one year later no i'm not talking about like some some fun facts i'm talking about like the

foundations of of of the beliefs of like the right wing right yeah that's the

foundational beliefs of the right wing are schizophrenic

and always have been.

Well, and

like what, which ones?

Well,

for starters, their views about communism

and its origins.

Again, I don't even think that's like relevant.

I'm talking about like the actual policies and the things that they're believing in and promoting for...

Yes, S. Comic Killer 45.

Who the fuck is that?

Well, look, all I'll say is that the right was full

of nut cases

for most of its existence

and I kind of feel like

Candace was on to something

but

and that's when Nick

Fuentes had a problem

you know there was like

so much

retarded shit

and then

all Candice did

was start asking

to raise questions

about what's going on

with Bridget McCrown

which I you know

honestly

good point

and then the other thing

was

who the fuck killed Charlie Kirk what the fuck happened with that

which is totally legitimate so you think it's less

schizo being like I saw it my sources I saw it in a dream

like that's that's like not a schizo's like

well that's not I think it's the same level of schizo as accusing us of doing it.

No, it's worse.

It's much worse.

Because Candace knew Charlie Kirk personally.

So at least, like, maybe he did appear in a dream.

Who knows, right?

But the idea that...

The idea that I did it

and got away with it,

that's fucking crazy.

Okay, he didn't say,

you did it,

though.

He did say I did it.

He did say I did.

When did you just say that?

He said you pulled the trigger.

He said Tyler, he said Tyler Robinson was acting

under the orders of Haas and ACP.

Is that a quote?

Because I remember I'm saying...

No, the direct quote is that, you know, all these commies are trying to blame Israel.

But Tyler Robinson was in Haas' discord, and Haas, especially wiped his discord the same day that it happened.

Okay, exactly.

And then he said, and then he said there has to be a connection there and that Jackson, he told Jackson he's going to go to jail for a long time

once it's found out that Tyler Robinson

was in the ACP, you're

all going to jail. It's like

all of these claims were just made up.

Well, that's a pretty big revision from

you fucking killed him to, like,

this guy that killed him wasn't

clearly the implication is clear the implication

is that ACP killed

Charlie Kirk I'm the

chairman of the ACP so

ergo you know

QED well okay

still pretty big difference and still not nearly the same.

It's like some shit, Daniel Tut.

It's like something Daniel Tut would make up.

It's like Daniel Tut level fabrication.

Yeah, well, regardless, you know,

still different than what you initially said

and still not nearly on the same scale as

Egyptian planes and you know

my sources I saw it in a dream

and there's a trap door and he's a time traveler

like this is a bunch of nonsense

Israel did do it though for sure

okay what evidence you have of that?

It's just so clear. But suddenly it's evidence.

Suddenly it's evidence.

Ian Carroll literally has all the evidence.

He has all the receipts.

Ian Carroll, brother.

Yeah, what did he say that's so outlandish?

Ian Carroll literally laid it out.

I don't watch it. To be be honest I can't bear watching Ian Carroll but you can tell me

what did you maybe the quick cliff notes of like

what did you lay out? That fucking gun could not

have been contained by his neck

the bullet type so that

so Israel did it because of that like let's his grant that that's true

how does israel involved in any way it's just obvious that what israel was involved we all know

that okay so i mean if your evidence that israel was involved. We all know that. Okay. So, I mean, if your evidence that Israel was involved, your evidence is that...

I find it very likely because clearly the real killer was not Tyler Robinson.

Clearly, there was a cover-up. Clearly, the FBI was not being fully honest. Clearly, they talked about working with foreign intelligence agencies on the case. Why? Clearly, you know, Kirk did have some falling out with his Jewish donors or Israeli donors. And yeah, clearly the incentive was there.

All the irregularities surrounding it were there.

Somebody fucking did it.

Do you think Tyler Robinson is like, what's the were patsy or whatever?

Like he was planted?

That's like the fall guy

could be

why did net njahou was in the same hour of the assassination

uh he's so sorry for charlie or whatever the fuck

cutting out of like an important you know? I think by the same standard of evidence

that Israel killed JFK.

What about that?

Did Israel kill JFK?

I'm not convinced either way in that case.

Fuentes claims it's a definitive yes.

I agree he does.

And I think frankly...

So there you go.

So why is it standard of evidence?

It's the fact that Nick Fuentes denied Israel killed Charlie Kirk that convinces me he did.

Because Fuentes would be willing to believe any of these theories, right?

He thinks that Israel killed Charlie Kirk.

I'm sorry, Israel killed JFK. i sorry israel killed uh jfk

so why is he suddenly like trying to be like scientific

and empiricist about charlie kirk

doesn't make us well i mean on a on a baseline level there's there's still more

jewish involvement in the jfK assassination than this one.

Are you kidding? Are you, what?

Are you kidding? Are you kidding?

Like, Charlie Kirk was literally embedded

directly with the fucking Jewish

Zionist mafia. Yeah, and they loved

him. He was stuck with him all the time.

But then he started to be a little, oh, I'm influenced too much by Candace.

Oh, I'm going a little bit too much.

And then something changed.

And then there was a problem.

Okay, well, that's pretty vague.

So I just am curious

because, you know, I think the

Goy Cattle, you know, psychology

really interests me, but

so why is it that when Nick Fuentes

says within like two hours of the assassination

that we did it, there's zero scrutiny?

But then when we come up with a much more

plausible explanation that Israel's involved,

suddenly it's, well, what's your evidence,

bro? Like, what are we caught from?

Well, yeah, I mean, obviously he's...

Do we just say that you don't actually believe anything

and you just, like, get all the ideas

inseminated in your head by a

fucking retard. No, no, Nick Flentes gave

evidence. He said he heard it on Mug Club.

He said he heard it on Stephen Crowder

as a subscriber-only show.

Right. That ECP did it.

By the way, all this originated,

you know what it actually originated on 4chan?

The same day of the assassination,

mysteriously,

random posts on 4chan went up

trying to tie me to it.

On pole.

Yep, on poll.

Yeah, so I think

obviously he would...

Can you also answer the question of why Paul?

The number one place that people

post from on poll is Israel.

People can...

No, that's like a... People can...

I'm pretty sure they... No, that's real.... People can... I'm pretty sure they...

No, that's real.

Can you answer that?

Yeah, people can

select their country on there,

I'm pretty sure.

Hmm, interesting.

It's like a...

So everyone decides to choose Israel.

Yeah, it's like a troll.

Like, people select...

Oh, I get it.

It's very confusing.

I've never. It's very confusing. I've never,

It's not

ID IP.

But that's, from what I understand,

that's how it works.

You can choose it.

Right.

Totally not your IP.

Yeah.

Anyway,

anyway, look,

you know,

at the end of the day,

nobody fucking knows anything

with certainty.

Nobody's claiming certainty.

That's the issue.

Of course, there can be certainty.

But what are, what should, what, like, would be a plausible explanation for a lot of this kind of shit, right?

And I find it plausible that Israel probably killed him.

Now, do I know that with certainty?

I mean, fuck, I don't know anything with certainty

except the fact that I'm a real motherfucker

and Nick Fuentes is a little bitch.

But at the end of the day,

all I know with certainty is that Nick Fuentes

is 5-5 or 5-6. That's the only thing

I know with certainty.

So, Archer, you claim, you claim definitively?

You claim definitively that you can choose what country you post from?

Bro, but no, not definitively.

That's from what I said.

I'd just like you to do a simple Google search real quick.

Cool.

I'll check it out. I'll check it out

in a second. Real quick.

Okay, can I respond to this?

detract from my wonderful

theory. Yeah, that's what I

want to get back to. Connected to the French government.

Okay, okay, gotcha.

But look, the reason I asked if you think Robinson was like the fall guy or whatever,

like, okay, if we think about this logically, you know, if we assume Israel is going to do

some sort of operation, it's going to be probably pretty sophisticated, you know?

And, you know, when it first happened, I was thinking, obviously, that's plausible.

What you would expect most likely is that a fall guy would probably be like a Muslim, right?

Like, first thoughts, like that would be the most effective.

No, no, no, you wouldn't.

You wouldn't.

Why not?

Because Israel is more scared of the white American left-wingers who are pro-Palestine than they are of Muslims.

Muslims are less than 1% of the U.S. population.

Unlike Europe, America doesn't have a problem with too many muslims being in it as far as

israel's concern it has too many left-wingers in it who are pro-palestine you muslims are

negligible force in u.s politics yeah but U.S., that's not what they care.

They care about Israel, right?

You think the Jews and Israel more worried about white leftists or Muslims?

Yes.

Yes.

In America, of course they are.

In Israel, bro.

In America, are not going to tip the scale.

White leftists are.

Yeah, I'm talking about in for Israel.

Yeah, in America, in America,

white leftists

have a better chance

of advocating for Palestine

than Muslims do. Absolutely.

There's way more of them.

Yeah, you keep saying in America.

I'm talking about in Israel. Why are we talking about

in Israel and in Timbo, too? Why are we talking

about that? Because if Israel was

the one who, you know,

why would they want to, okay, if they're trying

to have set frame Muslims, then let's say the end result would be that we deported every American Muslim.

Okay, you're still not getting rid of the fundamental problem, which is white leftist support for...

I don't think that would be the goal.

The goal would be to spur support of the Americans for, you know, more military intervention in the Middle East.

Yeah, but the biggest obstacle to that are the, are white leftists.

Okay.

Okay.

So, like, I'm not saying that you're gonna

uh

it's not muslims who are in the way of that

and by the way white leftists

are not particularly religious

and it's not out of solidarity with american

muslims that they're pro-Palestine they're pro-palestine

because they themselves are sick and tired of being ruled and occupied by zionist oligarchs

and billionaires right yeah i'm sure they have their grievances but um again my point is is simply that like

you know if if i was israel i would want to i would simply want to spur support for um you know

military intervention in the middle east and and the way to do that is to show the extreme

yeah they're not going to know any any no because even then if they Middle East. And the way to do that is to show the extreme nature of these...

They're not going to... No. Any... No, because even then, if they tried another 9-11,

nobody would buy it.

Nope.

There were plenty of ISIS attacks, and it's what... Nobody gave a shit.

And it's the only thing that'll spur more support for Israel is targeting and silencing the anti-Zionist movement in the US that's the only way

there's no other way gotcha well then I'm just not really sure what the assassination did for Israel, to be honest.

I don't see whether we go out of the way.

Two things, okay? This is the easiest question, right?

It's like, what's the incentive? Well, it's obvious, okay?

The two things that it would have done if they were behind it is a neutralize what they perceived as a threat, someone who was the leader of all of TPSA, had all that power. Had he decided to go more independent uh fuck the entire

youth wing of the Republican Party

becoming anti-Zionist

yikes uh oh he was too powerful

and uh you know I'm not saying that would have

happened overnight but he could have become

a Tucker Carlson in a year or two right

so uh then you have the

you have the fact that, you know, Israel wants to

foment more conflict within domestic

U.S. politics in ways that will create federal

crackdowns on left-wing organizations

and quote-unquote left-wing

extremism, which

neutralizes the most vocal

anti-Zionist and most organized

anti-Zionist force in the country.

So, you know, there's the two main reasons, and then, you know, organized anti-Zionist force in the country.

So, you know, there's the two main reasons.

And then, you know, another smoking gun piece of evidence is like, so, I'm like, what about Erica Kirk, though?

Like, look at the...

Oh, she's catchy as fuck.

Yeah.

Yeah, exactly.

So it's like, there's so much shit that's just like there's some funky business some funny business i should say and clearly the story they're telling us is not the real one you know well i don't take issue with that that exact sentiment right like that's not you know outside the realm

of plausibility

it does seem suspicious especially

Erica Kirk is suspicious

I just think that you know you're

smoking gun of like some sort of statements

Charlie Kirk made

look I mean you know when you when you when you overlay that, it's not one thing. It's all these things together. It's all these things combined together. Let's be honest. If Charlie Kirk never made like that was one or two statements, that was like very slightly critical.

What about the text messages?

Remember the text messages that got leaked?

Which ones?

The ones where he was like, yes, Candace, I was bumping that, Nikki Minaj.

No, the one that I posted.

Look at, go on my timeline.

Look at the one I posted.

Let me look. Where would he post? Back in the day.

So he literally said the Jewish donors

are stereotypes. Like I don't know what more

evidence you need. What is that?

That's literally in a verified

text message.

Okay, so we said Jews like money.

Two days before he died.

So we said Jews like money.

No.

There's more.

That's, well, if that's all it said, if it was, if Kyle quoted it correctly, then that's just like not much.

I mean,

like if he wouldn't have died and he said that.

No one is disregarded.

Like how much evidence?

I'll read it. I'll read his text.

Just two days before.

Just lost another huge Jewish donor.

Two million a year because we won't cancel Tucker and I'm thinking of inviting Candace.

Ugh.

Jewish donors play into all of the stereotypes.

I cannot and will not be bullied like this.

Leaving me no choice but to leave the pro-Israel

cause. Two days before he

died. That's crazy.

Two days before he's dead.

How does Israel benefit

though? He's going to

leave the pro-Israel cause and then

and he's going to expose that they've been giving him tens of millions of fucking dollars to influence the fucking domestic politics for decades.

He literally went.

He's like, all right, guys, I'm leaving the pro-Israel cause.

And then two days later, we are Charlie Kirk.

Like literally two days later

That's what happens

Two days later

Well I mean you bring up Candace and Tucker

And then you say

You give us that

But what's you doing

Shabbat Shalom

What are we talking about?

Two days later, the ACP militant cell

led by Raja Patel, Hassan Piper,

Haas,

Raja Patel's ACP cell

gave Tyler Robinson the instructions and orders to carry the flame, so to speak.

That's pretty funny.

I mean, but by the way, I mean, bringing up Candace and Tucker, I mean, these are two people that, you know, really just don't even understand it.

They don't mention Jews at all.

They don't think it's a problem.

Okay, it doesn't matter, but clearly, you know, the powerful Jews are more afraid of them than they are, Nick Windas.

Well, yeah, because they bought him.

Because Nick Fuentes was never mainstream.

These are two mainstream conservatives.

Yeah, but they never say anything about Jews.

You're just fucking purity testing them.

They started out as milk toast

conservatives, and then they turned

into being critical. Yeah, and then when Nick

popularized it, they fucking sucked it up.

You're such a fucking retard. You genuinely

think that, like, these Zionist people

care... He thinks... They love that. He thinks... You genuinely think that like these Zionist people care. Yeah, he thinks, he thinks, he thinks, he thinks Israel is genuinely opposed to people who just hate Jews.

Bro literally thinks that Zionism is.

No, they're fucking, how do you?

How do you? Okay.

Hold on.

Let's talk about Israel's

number one enemy in the world,

which is Iran. Iran

officially, as a matter of state

policy,

upholds, tolerates, and protects his Jewish minority.

Khamenei praises the people of the book.

He says, we have no issue with Jews.

It's just the Zionists.

So how come Iran is more of a threat to Israel than some retard

guy in America who

fucking is tweaking about

you know, the, you know, the

tunnels or some shit.

You know, like, at the end of the day,

Israel

doesn't give a fuck about JQers.

They care about people who concretely threaten pro-Zionist narratives.

Tucker and Candice do that far more effectively than Nick Fuentes does.

The Zionists benefit from JQers because it consolidates the Jewish community because they feel like they're under attack.

The direct quote from Theodore Hurtzl, it was, the anti-Semites shall be our greatest allies.

That's literally what he said.

Word for word, that's what he said.

Damn, all right, interesting. Well, look look I'll let that doomer nat come up here and blow you the fuck out

so I gotta get going

but have a going thanks for having me it out

all right

Kyle bring up

I can't see anyone so bring up whoever's requesting you want me to bring up... I can't see anyone, so bring up

whoever's requesting.

Do you want me to bring up the guy

that was actually next?

Or do you want me to bring the guy that he just shouted out

to carry his fucking ball sack for him?

Yeah.

Bring up whoever.

Guys, I want to remind everybody we have about 45 minutes or an hour left, 90 minutes.

I think it's 90 minutes left of the space.

Mercury, go ahead.

Hey, so you guys talked about a lot, but I just, I haven't had an anecdote about Jay Dyer.

I didn't know you had, uh, debated him.

I had the same, pretty much the same exact experience with him.

I was giving him an argument about Solstrup Torah, like a pragmatic

argument

because I know he had read

Quine and the minute

the minute like a door opened and I

paused he

You can call me an asshole I don't care but like

I don't want to hear someone

who's talking like they're holding their nose

i'm sorry like you know

you're talking about jay dyer and uh

he's uh well you know it's like

buddy i don't give a fuck all right

are you trying to be my friend

so i just i don't want to hear this because then i then i'll fucking pick up that accent i'll

start talking like that all right bring up the next person

they're connecting. Thank you. yeah all right just just bring up people until something connects Is Daniel Tate going to come?

I don't know.

He's jibbering about you as we speak.

It's very funny.

Oh, wow.

He's trying to bring Carlos in on it. Oh, wow. He's trying to bring

Carlos in on it.

Oh, I hope he does.

Hello.

Yeah, what's going on?

Al-Salam al-a-a-a-a-com. So,

um, this, you know,

debating the far right.

Have you, uh, called out any leftists who are sleeping from Chomsky right now, even though he was connected with, on the Epstein files and also talking about.

Talking about Chomsky?

Okay.

You said something earlier about Israel doesn't care about JQers.

Do you really think that's true?

What's that?

You said earlier in the previous conversation,

you said Israel doesn't care about JQers. Do you really think that's true?

Sorry, I was just looking at the touch shit.

I said that. And yes, I believe that's true. Israel does not give a fuck negatively whatsoever about JQing.

They love it.

It gets all the Jews in the world to feel like they're under attack.

And then big old daddy Israel's there to save all their asses.

You know what you know what's funny about this?

Duma, I'm going to get you one second. Guys, You know what's funny about this... Dumer, I'm gonna get you one second. Guys, you know what's funny about

this tuth shit? He's always

playing a game of telephone where he's like, oh,

well, Carlos said this or this person said

that. And it's like,

what is he talking about? And he's always

a yeah, look Like he's always,

yeah,

look,

he's,

guys,

unironically he's saying,

Carlos confirmed that Haas took my Twitter account.

Bro,

how would I,

it's almost like what, like first he... It's almost like, what...

Like, first he's bringing in that woman.

Now he's bringing in Carlos.

Oh, well, like, what?

Like, everyone's like, Daniel, where are you getting this idea?

That, uh...

What did he say?

Because someone told him, debate me, he goes,

if he gives me my Twitter account back, I might consider

Daniel Todd!

Someone fucking clip this.

Daniel Todd, I don't fucking know anything about your fucking Twitter account.

You literal schizophrenic.

Come back to reality, you fucking weirdo.

And then the guy's like, what do you mean, Haas stole your account?

And he's like, ask Carlos.

He's the one who confirmed

it, then bribed me. But then he

told me not to share what he sent me.

So if Carlos were

sins that, I will share what he sent for sure

any time. Bro, can you call

Carlos and share it?

Because, by the way, Daniel Tut made up talking to the woman

who doesn't want the drama.

But he made that up.

So he's also making shit up about Carlos

I guess he's betting that Carlos is sleeping

or some shit someone called Carlos

though for real

like I want to see this guy shit his pants again

I'm just so invested in it

all right Dumer

you said something about uh Israel

uh not caring about JQers.

They could if the JQing concretely threatens Israel's interests.

But there are many scenarios in which that's not the case,

and in which case they would not care about it.

The same thing can be said

for anti-Zinist leftists

in the West there, right? With like all of them

getting behind like Jewish voices for peace

and you know, engaging in

non-revolutionary political action.

Well, yeah,

Mamdani, he's like Zornamadani, I would say.

Yeah, precisely.

Yeah. Yeah, there's all such a thing

called liberal Zionism, which is anti-Nanyahu,

but is not fundamentally against Israel.

Yeah, that should have been a better term for it.

Liberalism.

Yeah, that's very real. Obviously, that's have been a better term for it. Like a JVPS.

Yeah, that's very real.

Obviously, that's real.

Tromsky was a Zionist.

But don't you think it's weird that, you know, this seems to fit

into more of a Jewish, you know,

a JQ narrative than this like vague anti-Zionist one where you have like Jews engaging in left-wing politics, but still somehow is subverting it to like a more moderate form of Zionism?

Well, there's definitely a lot of liberal Jews, but there's also, there's also a significant of jews who are fully anti-Zionist

fully pro-hamas

and you know

that are pretty hardcore about it

so not any meaningful

not any meaningful ones

um i would say i would say Max Blumenthal is pretty meaningful.

I would say that...

Isn't he like one-fourth Jewish?

Like he's not even really Jewish.

Kyle, do you know?

I mean, what is he?

No, he's a Jew.

He's pretty Jewish.

He has like one Jewish grandparent.

I don't know about that.

On his paternal side.

That's where the last name comes from.

He's pretty Jewish.

Pretty sure he's pretty Jewish.

I mean, you can fact check it, but whatever.

I mean...

What about Dan Cohen?

Dan Cohen, very anti-Zonist.

100% Jewish. Yeah,ist. 100% Jewish.

He's 100% Jewish.

Sure. Sure.

You can bring up Binklestein as well, but they still...

No, I wouldn't even do that. I wouldn't even do that. I want to bring up Finglstein.

Benjamin Rubenstein, 100lstein Benjamin Rubenstein

100% Jew

Rubenstein is Jewish

You're just naming individuals right now

Well yeah exactly

I'm naming

Fine with you doing not

There's statistical evidence to this

I forget what the example

No around like 85 to 90% of American

Jews support the state of Israel.

And it seems to be like when you...

But the younger ones are changing. The younger

general... The people under... I don't think that's true.

A significant amount that are

anti-Israel.

Well, look, even if I were to concede majority are Zinus, like overwhelming majority,

the fact that you do have these outliers shows it's not a racial thing.

This isn't because there's something in their blood or in their DNA that makes them this way.

That's the Hill Alderman.

You know, I'm just against the racial shit.

In my opinion, I just think it's like some vague exception to a role.

Max Blumenthal, raised in a Zionist family, you went to Hebrew school.

Yeah, he's pretty Jewish. Max Blumenthal is pretty Jewish. Sure, but Max Blumenthal, raised in a Zionist family you went to Hebrew school. Yeah, he's pretty Jewish.

Max Blumenthal is pretty Jewish.

Sure, but Max Blumenthal will also do

documentaries about how Iran loves

its Jews, and I just, you know, he seems

to be... Right, which seems to...

Which is pretty true. They

do. I mean mean it's an Islamic

it's an Islamic government that

you know is engaging in total war

well not right now at least but they seem to be

the biggest threat to design as entity

I don't see the big deal about it's

it's reaffirming this

like this, you know,

anti-Semitism and it's still like the ultimate evil.

It's debunking an anti-Iran

propaganda narrative, which is trying to say

that Iran hates the Jews, which is

just not true.

So he was doing the service to Iran.

I don't see a need to be like, you know,

anti-Semitism as this ultimate evil thing

and, like, highlight the fact that, like, all these countries love

their Jews.

To be clear, I don't think it's the ultimate evil. Also, when was that documentary released? It was 2025. Yeah. Well, okay, well, look, there's different forms of pro-Iran you know

myth debunking you could do

that was one that he did

and I happen to think that

okay do you agree the Jewish community

is pretty wealthy and powerful

yeah obviously yeah

do you think there is at least a sizable amount of people in the

Jewish community who are left-wing and feel very conflicted about what's going on?

They feel very conflicted in a sense because they still have an attachment to their Jewish identity.

That's what you have to investigate.

So I know that majority of Jews are Zionists, but then you have to investigate the why.

Because when they're born and raised their whole lives being brainwashed and then saying that

if there's no Israel, there's going to be another

Holocaust and all this kind of stuff

that plays into it. It's part of

the upbringing. Okay. And then

you have

a significant amount of Jews who are fully

anti-Zionists. I'm not talking

about the Chomsky's and the

shills and sell-outs. I'm talking about

the actual principled ones.

That's one end of, that's like an end of an

extreme. I feel like if the

Jewish community is divided on Israel,

that actually benefits anti-Zionists. But they're certainly not divided on Israel, that actually benefits

anti-dilis. But they're certainly not divided.

Well, they're certainly not divided. I know, but a documentary

like the one Max Blumenthal did

would help divide them

on Israel further.

Why? Because, well, you're proving

the point here.

Wouldn't it be better if more Jews turned against Zionism, that would probably be better?

I don't see that happening anytime soon.

But maybe, maybe not. What's wrong with experimenting?

Max Blumenthal's documentary...

Because we've tried to do... Because that's been

like tried before.

Max Blumenthal trying to convince them that Iran...

His fellow Jews.

By appealing to a Jewish identity.

And like that's kind of my problem here

if he's saying that Iran doesn't hate the Jews

so you should not buy into the Zionist

myth and he should be more supportive

of Iran I feel like that helps his case

I don't really agree with that I've already

are pretty divided on Israel Who's divided on Israel?

Who's divided on Israel?

Jewish youth

are very divided on Israel.

You just say that, oh, well, it's just the youth.

Okay, but in America,

it's only the youth that are divided on Israel.

Do you think boomers are fucking, like, oh, Israel's bad.

So look, look, I'm not somebody who's going to spend 100% of my time

evangelizing to Jews to stop being Zionists, right?

So I, and I understand, I'm not out here claiming that the number one evil, number one problem is anti-Semitism, and it's this huge danger or some shit. That's not me, okay? But if Max Blumenthal's a Jew and he's interested in convincing more Jews to break with Zionism, that's what he is. He's a Jew who's against Zionism. It's like, what's wrong with that?

Yeah, so let me respond here to this. I feel like that's what anti-Zionist Jews should be doing, you know?

That's the most moral thing they could do.

Well, in my opinion, it's not.

It would be pointing out the fact that Israel, by and large, is basically... All right, so if someone's a Jew and they're anti-Zionist, what do you think is the moral thing they should be doing?

Because I would say, they should tell their fellow Jews, stop believing in like an ethnic supremacist death cult, which is Judaism.

That's what they should be doing.

They should leave their religion? I don't know about that. Yes. Yes. Well, you're

going to have no luck with that. See, that's my point is that you shouldn't be trying to convince

a bunch of Jews. You shouldn't be, you shouldn't be, you shouldn't, it is their religion.

Let's go let's go out the reason about this.

Anytime you're bringing up someone's heritage and you're bringing up their religion, I don't care what religion it is.

You're going to have ego shit.

Then stop appealing to Jews to do your anti-Zionism.

That's the point I'm not.

I'm not.

Well, who's, that's what, that's what anti-Zionism. That's the point I'm not. I'm not. Who's who's how

doing that? By and large, that's what the anti-Zionist

movement in the West has been for a long time.

Jews have been the one leading it and it's been a complete failure.

Even if you're a cynical

anti-Zionist and you

dislike Judaism. I'm not.ionist and you dislike

Judaism. No, no, but even if you

dislike Judaism,

who are you helping by

reinforcing? Gentiles?

You're not, though.

I am.

Do you agree the Jewish community is very powerful?

Yeah.

Okay.

So I should just appeal to Jews and like really hope Jews like listen to me.

That hasn't worked at all.

Right-wingers do the same shit about immigration.

I'm not telling you to do anything i'm saying

if max blumenthal wants to spend his time debunking the myth that around iran hates jews

and that would lead to more jews breaking ranks with zionism i don't see what the problem with that is

like because this started out by you saying

that Max Lewenthal is not a true anti-Zionist

because he made a documentary in

2025 about how Iran doesn't hate

its Jewish population, which is true, by the way.

And then you're like, well, at this time, you know, why would you even focus

on that? And it's like, well, because it's, why would you even focus on that and it's like well

because it's it's counter Hasbara he's countering a Hasbara narrative all you but see here's

here's my problem with that is you should just point out and 36% of Jewish youth sympathize with

Hamas?

Well, it should be 100%. I agree, but that's a pretty

high percentage, okay?

How many does the general American population

sympathize with?

Have that feeling? What are we talking about?

How many do, how many does the youth

non-Jewish Americans have

sympathize with Thomas? How many?

I don't know.

I don't know. It's certainly going to be more than

I would say it's going to be more than that.

And the point, the only point that I'm making,

you're trying to create, you're trying to create Jews as a monolith.

No, I'm not.

No, not.

I'm not making...

I'm saying that Jews have a very concrete ethnic identity,

and it is rooted in Judaism,

and the vast majority of Jews in the United States

support Israel because that is in connection

to their Judaism or reform

Yeah and 85%

of American Jews support Israel

They seem to be very united on these issues

They must they They're pretty be very united on these issues. They must

they're pretty united on these

issues. I never claim they're a monolith. Some of them

have different methods of supporting Israel.

You have the radical Lakotites and you have

these more optical liberal Jews.

But both of them at the end of the day agree on two things

and that is maintaining

the state of Israel and

minimizing as much as possible,

you know, anti-Jewist supremacist

people. I mean, it seems to be what they're doing.

And then when you bring up like these other anti-Jews,

these people are still reinforcing

the fact, so I view it, reinforcing the fact that, you know,

anti-Semitism is the ultimate evil and people,

you know, because like if I ran, it creates an era into that well.

You know, I personally don't feel that way from Max.

It's like hearing about Max's documentary,

oh, that gives me the vibe that

anti-Semitism is the great...

Max Blumenthal attacks anti-Semites all the time,

but hold on. The point of...

The whole... But he does, though. The point of the documentary

is to counter Hasbara propaganda.

It's not to affirm the idea that anti-Semitism is the world's biggest issue.

I disagree because Blumenthal criticized anti-Semites all the time.

Max Blumenthal has also stated publicly many times that he believes that JQ anti-Semitism is Hasbara, that it is promoted by the Israeli state.

Which seems to be true.

Which seems to be true because it seems to be true because of the founder of a poll on 4chan was met with Jeffrey Epstein the very same.

If you want to talk about the Epstein stuff, in my opinion, my opinion, the whole point of Epstein was to get these dissident-minded all right people embed in electoral politics and elect Donald Trump. That was the whole point of state banning.

Yeah, but it was also to reinforce Jewish nationalist solidarity

um

you know that's the way

so you're you're telling me you think that like

anti-Semitism

reinforces Jewish identity

um I would also claim that anti-Zionism

does the same thing.

Just go look at like the Jewish, what the Jewish...

Only if we maintain the presumption that Zionism and Judaism have to be the same thing.

So do you think October 7th reinforced Jewish identity?

Because the Zionines dominate the Jewish

community, yes.

And why do the Zionists dominate the Jewish

community? Because it's in...

October 7th, as Finkelstein would say.

I think that October 7th

caught an immediate effect of that, but I think that October 7th clouded an immediate effect

of that, but I think

it also heightened all of the contradictions

within the Jewish community, and we're seeing that play out

in real time. I don't see that playing out in real

time. Look, I think we

lost the plot. Oh, I don't know anything.

We lost the plot a little bit

All right

It's obviously

The majority of the Jewish community

is pro Zionist

All right

But

What's the

What point

I reject the idea

That this is because

It's in their racial blood

And it's DNA

Because I reject racialism.

I know you do.

That's the hill I die on.

I reject that this is a racial thing

because if there's some racial magic...

Could you agree it's a cultural thing?

I don't care to argue about like psychoism.

Sure, it's a cultural

thing. Why not? It's part

of Jewish American culture that Zionism

is prominent. Yeah, it is. And I think

the only way to get to actually

deconstruct that is to get rid and deconstruct

Jewish culture. Because it is founded.

It is a genocidal lunatic culture.

We disagree with the solutions.

You're saying the problem is Judaism as a religion.

And they have to convert from Judaism.

As an identity specifically.

Yeah.

And I disagree with that because you're talking about people...

Have you read the Tanakh?

Have you read the Quran? Have you read any other holy book with contentious?

The Tanakh is very specific, though, right?

Like, if you read Isaiah...

I don't fucking care. Dude, you know, this kind of talk makes me want to be a Bolshevik atheist

because I just don't fucking care.

Aren't you already a Bolshevik atheist?

Uh, not fully.

But anyway, look, I would say, well, yeah,

I'm a fully Bolshevik atheist, but that also

means I'm a...

You're dialectical with it. I understand. Yeah, I'm a dialectical with it.

I understand. Yeah, I'm a jihadi as well.

But anyway, look, the thing is...

So the thing is, is that...

Are you Shia?

Yeah. So look, the thing is, is

that... Okay.

I think

I don't like the premise because

when you start to attribute

to religion the cause

of such very significant

and immense political and

structural realities, then

we're going to go from Judaism to Protestantism versus

Catholicism, to Orthodoxy, to Islam, to all these other fucking religions, because you're looking

at the wrong causes for understanding these phenomena in our society. So that's why I'm

against it in principle. If you say, oh, the source of the

problem is the Jewish belief and the Jewish identity, well, then we're going to have other

problems and people say, well, the problem is the Protestant belief. And then the Catholics and the

Protestants will be at each other's throat, It's just like they were for hundreds of years

killing and slaughtering each other.

And then Orthodox Larpers, like Jayre or whatever,

will come and say the problem is both of them.

And then obviously there's the whole Muslim angle,

which is already a thing.

Like, all Islam's a problem.

It's causing people to blow themselves up.

So... Yeah, I understand.

So it's like, I just reject that premise entirely, that people have to...

Let me respond. So I think the problem here

is, uh, one, this is, you know,

it's not like a premise thing

it's that one I don't think

Protestantism or Catholicism

are causing that many issues

and not yet

because the Jewish identity is

well it's not going to cause one yet

because like most of like

no no no on doom

do this is issue

because right now, the

front and center issue is Zionist power, right?

Yeah. But that hasn't always been the

front and center issue. For example, for hundreds of years

in Europe, Protestants, Catholics fought each other over their religion,

right?

Because there was a different issue at the front and center.

So we have a front and center issue. That doesn't exist anymore.

I know, but.

Right, so that's not going to exist again.

Yeah, but these people aren't religious anymore.

And then when you're doing what you're talking about a religion and identity that's existed for

thousands of years, that's too tall of an order to say that has to be wiped out entirely

in order for...

And there are because it's evil.

It's just an evil identity in religion.

That's what I'm getting at here.

Is it something that just should be happening?

Forget about the morals or whatever about wiping out lineages.

Forget about that for a second.

You are making the anti-Zinous.

I'm not calling for genocide, by the way.

Let's ignore that.

Regardless,

your position

makes anti-Zionism

impossible.

Because if you have to

wipe out something

or reverse something

that exists for thousands

of years,

you're basically

making it impossible to actually have a realistic anti-Zionist position.

It's unrealistic to expect that Jewish identity will be eliminated entirely, that all Jews will convert away from their Jewish religion into something else entirely.

When that religion has existed for thousands and thousands of years, you're no longer living in reality anymore and confronting the concrete situation, which is this Epstein regime and which is Zionist power, which is Israel's genocide.

It's Jewish, though. Have you read the files?

Like, Epstein was a Jewish supremacist.

It wasn't just about Zionism.

Like, he was calling Gentiles Goyim and all this other shit.

He preferred specifically Gentile white girls to abuse and rape.

That's a Jewish issue

and now if you're gonna do

this whole historical stuff

on me oh it's been around

2000 years

it's going to be a possible

how long did Catholic

reign in Europe

how long were all

the Europeans Catholic

and Christian

and etc

Catholicism is still around

not in any meaningful sense that

it used to be.

Yes, it's probably one of the largest religions

and how many Catholics are there?

How many people go to Mass once a week?

How many Catholics go to Mass once a week?

How many Jews are practicing Jews that actually

follow their fucking religion?

There's a key difference between

Jews as an identity

and the way that Catholicism operates

as an identity. But I'm going to

I will say this, the Jewish

identity is built around a

type of serve, you know know it's a reinforcing phenomenon

you know the whole you know you look at their holidays

Ponica etc

it's specifically about

you know negating themselves from the other

and a lot of them built around voter

it's just something that shouldn't exist

in modern society.

Do you think Epstein was religiously Jewish?

He talked about the soul

and all that other shit, and he, you know, this picture

came out of him having all those... Didn't he call

Madonna and all the rabbis fucking

retards? What did he

say in that email? Yeah, because isn't

Madonna, 99%

sure Madonna is a Gentile who converted to

this weird Kabbalistic cult? You know what, Nukes

the specific

racialist version of the JQ that comes from the

files that even kind of surprised

me. Did you

hear the recording where

Ehud Barak was

talking to Epstein and he said,

we need to import one million

Russians and just convert

them to Judaism. We need to get rid of these rabbis imposing

restrictions on jewish identity that's making it based in blood so that we can import these russians

have them convert to judaism and that will be better for us now God fucking knows what the fucking reasoning for that.

Oh, he was talking about, get this. This is the best part. I know what he was talking about.

It was because he said when Israel was founded, they brought in too many brown and black people

and they need more white people.

So isn't that fucking crazy? They wanted to do a eugenics program where they bring in,

you know, what they said, the most high IQ, the smartest Russians,

and eliminate Jewish religious laws that make it based on lineage and blood and convert them to

judaism which by the way that's surprised even me because i at least thought

zionism was a racial supremacist ideology based in blood and that was so fucking weird, right?

Now you have to ask the question.

It's like, I don't think this is a religious thing.

I think this is something else.

I've heard a lot of theories.

I've heard the Frankis theory, which actually does make sense.

I know Nick Fuentes mocks it a lot.

I read

what you're talking about and I don't think that's

what he said. I think what he was saying

is that they... He wanted to get one

million Russians in, convert him to... Yeah, but it was

one million

Ashkenazism. Nope, nope,

I'm pretty sure.

He was complaining about the Jewish

rabbinical law

that prohibits

non-Jews

from converting. He said, let's make...

And what was the point of that? What's the point of bringing

to dilute from the population, the brown and black Jews, the Mizra And what was the point of that? What's the point of bringing in Lelves?

From the population, the brown and black Jews, the Mizrahi's.

Right, right.

This still seems to be reinforcing Jewish supremacy.

I don't understand how this. I don't know.

It kind of feels like it's, and I know you hate this word.

It's like one weird rabbi.

I know you're going to hate this word because it's going to give you flashbacks from 2020

would be a L.

But I'm pretty sure that was some white supremacy, right?

If the problem is...

I'm not how the brown noise always end up like bringing it back to white supremacy. I don't know... I'm being objective. Listen, buddy, I'm how the brown noise always end up, like, bringing me back to white supremacy.

I don't know.

I'm being objective.

Listen, buddy, I'm not your enemy.

No, no, I get it, but be rational.

Ehud Barak doesn't have a problem with random whites.

He has a problem with the brown and black Jews in Israel.

And he's so, he's so, like, against these brown and black people, he's willing to bring in, he just wants more of a whiteness.

He wants to bring in more white skin, right?

I just feel like that's what...

I don't know what else I could call it.

Well, it's consistent.

They had a large program of sterilizing

Mizrahi Jewish people for decades.

Yeah, and I'm not saying I'm

defending Mizraahis or some shit. I'm just saying

it's like, what that proves

that this is not a religious thing. I don't see

it as religious. I mean, I'll say,

I'll say this. Well, it seems to be

a Jewish thing because he wanted those people to

convert to Judaism.

But you also have...

Isn't it interesting how it's no longer racial now?

It's like, yeah, now it's just like a...

It's a, what do they call it, an ethno religion?

They want people to...

But it's not the same ethnicity anymore.

It's literally just random Goyim converting.

Well, they would be, they'd be mingling in with the point they wanted to make some

like weird Michelin, you know, super race, which was what Epstein was also interested

in, because he was into the gene editing eugenicist's weird

shut.

But that's still Jewish.

They want the Michelin to mix with the Michelin and then the Michelin to mix with the Michelin.

I mean, you also have like, for it.

I mean, there's a lot of debate with the Jews.

Like, I don't know if you ever heard of like Ovidia

Yusuf. He was the guy.

So if you've seen the quote

going around that they said Epstein said about

like how the Jewish soul is superior

to the Goy soul, that's fake

Epstein didn't say that, but it was Ovidia

Yusuf, who was a very big rabbi in that, but it was Ovidia Yusuf,

who was a very big rabbi in Israel,

and he was one of the main guys that was behind getting the Ethiopian Jews,

I don't know,

beta Israel,

into Israel.

So you can have these really weird

Jewish supremacist beliefs and still be like down with the...

Ehud Barak was complaining about people like that because he was saying...

Right, but then you also have like these Jewish supremacist rabbis who won't people like that.

I'm not denying there's Jewish supremacists. I'm not denying that

I mean, do you think Barack was

one? I mean, I think, well,

yes, but I think

that it's not about the religion, though.

This is talking about Zionism as an ideology.

I think that it's

coincided with Judaism

as a

weird.

Look,

it's all going to go back

from me to this.

It's not about this

racialism shit.

That's it.

That's what it's going to do.

It's not about this racial

or some shit.

I'm just claiming

it's about Judaism.

That's all I'm saying.

As a weird, religious, ethnic identity.

Here's the weird thing. Zionism turns Judaism from a religion to something different, apparently.

No, because isn no because isn't

isn't like one of the third biggest

although he wanted to

convert these Russians

he wanted to do so by

overriding the rabbinical authorities

and suppressing the religious

tradition yeah there's a lot of the governing party the rabbinical authorities and suppressing the religious tradition.

Yeah, there's a, yeah, a lot of the governing

party doesn't like the

ultra- Orthodox rabbinics.

We don't have to get into the whatever,

you know, of... Well, I mean, if you want to get technical

with it, we really, because you're using this as like a

debunking of my view. And I'm like,

well, this stuff's actually really technical. And like,

you got to really get into the nitty gritty with this.

We could definitely get into the nitty gritty,

but I'm just saying it's going to be pointless

because my point is very simple.

All I'm saying is that there is no

monolithic

racial Jewish thing that's coated in their blood

and in their DNA that

no one's making that claim not even Kevin

McDonald makes that claim yes he does he says it's the group

selection have you have you read have you read have you read the trilogy he even talks about how there's a cultural how there's a cultural evolution effect to it it's not just about like how they read kevin mcdonald uh 10 years ago but i'm, very clear that he said that Jews...

There is a genetic element, too.

There is this cultural, there is this cultural social element to it as well.

You know, this is just kind of how gene tards cope with the inconsistencies of their...

Oh, here we go.

...biology, because what they'll say... I'm not fixing to argue with you about... tards cope with the inconsistencies of their Oh, here we go.

The biology, because what they'll say... I'm not fixing to argue with you about Lysenko and genes not existing and shit.

All right, all right, we don't have to get into it.

You can just believe in that.

I'm not arguing that.

All right, we don't have to get into it.

But anyway, this whole thing of like, oh, it's nature and nurture.

It's like, oh, it's nature and nurture. It's like, well, that's just because you have an incoherent worldview.

Okay.

Look, anyway, look,

we don't have to get into it. But anyway,

the thing I'm trying to say is that

in terms of a practical solution to the

problem of Zionist power,

I don't think making it impossible for American Jews

to disassociate from Zionism is an effective strategy.

That's the hill I die on.

That's it.

I'm not saying you have to cater their feelings.

I'm not saying you have to say anti-Semitism is this huge, you know, giant, most worst thing ever.

Like, I'm not saying you have to pearl clutch over this shit.

I'm not saying you have to, you know, X, Y, and Z and walk on eggshells.

I'm not saying you have to pander

or anything.

I'm just saying

if there's some Jewish guy

who's anti-Zionist,

like,

more power to him.

That's all I'd say.

Yeah, but see,

I don't really trust

Jewish Zionists, though, and I have really good

reason, or Jewish anti-Zionists, and I don't

really have a good reason, too. I don't trust

99% of Guillaume

either. I don't either.

Most of them are in bed with the Jew.

Yeah, I...

Oh, you can't...

I mean, dude, you got Nick Flentez wearing an Epstein quarters of, dude.

Like, you can't...

No, I get that, but I'm just saying, like...

I'm talking about individuals, and you're like, well, I can't trust them.

And it's like, well, who can you trust?

You know?

You're confusing the individual with the collective.

You don't trust collectives in general.

You know, if you want to, you can.

But we're talking about collect... Like, when you start talking about Israel and Jews, we're talking about a collective, and then you start naming these specific individuals.

I think that it should not be that Jews should have such an exaggerated, outsized significance relative to their population

in either direction.

So whether that's in terms of

these...

Can we put quotas on...

Can we put like specific quotas on institutions?

No, I wouldn't say that.

I wouldn't say that.

Isn't that what Russia did? Isn't that what the Soviets did?

Not openly. But anyway, look, here's that I would say. I don't know. The thing is, the way I'd put it is this. I think that the Jews were some of the first immigrant groups that came in America and brought kinship networks and kind of clannish connections to gatekeep a lot of different industries and fields and use these

to subvert white identity and white advocacy.

Let me continue. Let me continue.

They did it in order to kind of

gain institutional advantages.

But after the Jews

came, other groups came and did the same fucking thing,

with the same strategy, right?

No, not the same strategy. Same exact strategy. But because Jews were here first, they were the

first people to do this at the expense of the wasps, these other immigrant groups started to resent

Jews because they're gatekeepers of these institutions. So the same, if you talk about people that

came from Southeast Asia, people that come from the Middle East, I can vouch and say Lebanese people move

like Jews. Absolutely they do.

Although I wish

they would be more like Jews,

kind of,

because they're not really that

helpful with each other

as much as...

Listen,

what you need to work on,

I'm going to tell you this.

What you need to work on as a Muslim is bridging the Sunni-Shi-Shiya divide, because that's causing a lot of issues.

It's not my problem, though. At the end of the day, it's not my problem. It's all of our problems, because I have to deal with, like, these retards in the Middle East who are Sunnis that hate Shia more than they hate.

My solution to it is Bolshevik atheism

for 10, 20 years.

And then they'll all just be grateful

that they could have.

You just told me abolishing the Jewish identity

is like impossible.

But then you want to like turn the whole Middle East and the Bolshevik atheists and you think that's possible?

Come on, bro.

Maybe in Israel it should be abolished, but I'm saying in America, unless we're doing it to everyone, we can't do it to just one group, right?

Anyway.

No, I don't think that follows.

Because one group holds a very more

specific problem in a way that other groups don't.

Like when you start talking about like it was the Jews that came here

and they gave people in the room,

there's no Lebanese Hollywood, I can tell you that might.

Muslim, Milton atheism, 20, 30 years and forget.

And then everyone...

That's evil, though.

No, no, because it's only 20.

30 years. It's only 20 30 years

it's only 23rd not even

not even China

not even China is

Bolshevik militant atheists they

no no listen listen listen they hold

cling to their to their Confucianist

tradition they do no no listen but

I'm not saying forever. I'm saying maybe

10 to 30 years, and then when people

wise up, they can come back to a beautiful

religion. Like, look at Russia today. It has a beautiful

Orthodox faith. But only

because they had the

militantism for 10 years

yeah but

Russia will never be

because of what

the Bolsheviks did

to Russia

Russia will never be

as religious as it was

before the Bolshek

revolution

has a more beautiful

Orthodox faith

now than it did

pre-revolution

that will no it whoa hold on when before it was no much better Orthodox faith now than it did pre-revolution? Well, no,

it would, whoa, hold on.

It was so much better when the priests were just

like fucking stealing everything

and just like the biggest landowners in the country.

And the czar was like raping children.

That was so much better, dude.

They had much more...

The Bolshevichita wanted to talk about raping children. That was so much better, dude. They had much more... The Bolsheviks wanted to talk about raping children.

Before...

Your mic is messed up a little bit.

Before the Bolsheviks, I know those are.

The Orthodox faith was this like...

It was totally a co-opted by the autocracy which was a foreign

invaded foreign imported thing they were very cynical about it it was full of freemasons there was

no like genuine faith but through the militant atheism after 10 20 years suddenly when

there was a revival it was like this beautiful oh it was like an actual like spiritual reawakening

that never would have happened had that not happened and it was beautiful

but that's because

your your mic

is a little messed up pause

I don't know if that's might be on

my end is it fixed

yeah anyways is it fixed now

no it's not no it's not

fuck yeah anyways is it fixed now no it's not fuck

listen listen listen listen here's the thing

listen I don't care to argue about Russia with you

I don't the only point that I'm making here

is that like I don't you know you said me that

like deconstructing Judaism

is like impossible and then you're like we're just going to

make everyone Bolshevik atheists and then like

I think that's also impossible

guys on kick is it

is it muted or is it good

on kick you're fine all right so but

here it's can you hear me at all here or do i am i just a little we can hear you

there's just like we're still a robot here we can make out what you're saying we can we can deal with it

i'm like a jihadi terminator that's how you got to yeah basically all right anyway

look

to be serious

to not be joking

um

the way I would approach

the issue is to just

concretely focus

on the power concretely focus on the power,

concretely focus on the networks.

The minute we start getting into this

psychoanalysis about cultures and religions,

we open up Pandora's box for a lot of introspection

that I don't feel like we should have.

You can microanalyze

the culture and religion of a lot of different

groups, and let's just kind of

not do that and just

focus on the people concretely occupying

us.

Okay, but I want to know

why power moves the way that it does

and why these people have specific power

and cut.

Do you see no difference at all

between Ben Shapiro and Max Blumenthal?

This Max Blupe? This Max Blum?

Well,

in the West, like, for example,

for Blumenthal attacks anti-Semites.

It doesn't matter.

In a very dirty way,

in a very dirty way that's very similar to Shapiro.

Let me rephrase this.

Do you see a difference between Jeffrey Epstein and Max Blumenthal?

Well, Blumenthal's not a pedophile, so I mean, you know... Well, one person is actually part of the power structure, and another person isn't.

Sure, but when you look at what the power structure is,

it does have a very Jewish character.

And if you won't analyze why the power structure...

It has a Jewish character, sure,

but when we start getting into metaphysics

and making this about religion and culture,

we're doing too much psychoanalysis.

You're not going to be able to predict the way, just my opinion,

I don't think you're going to be able to wait to predict

why the establishment does the way that it does

unless you acknowledge the Jewish influence over it

and the Jewish interests that's there.

Yeah, again, you can, you should, you can do that, but you should do it concretely.

You should do it in a way that doesn't have to...

I do it materially.

Listen, I'm no ideologist.

You should do it materially instead of resorting to abstractions that end up, you know, kind of

making it about

this intangible... What abstraction do you think I...

What abstraction do you think I feel to?

For example, the Kevin McDonald, like, oh, the eternal

Jewish solid... These are abstractions. These are

not real things we can locate. It's not, though,

because he goes through a lot of evidence

for it. And there you could, yeah, but

it's just kind of, you can find evidence for anything

with this kind of paradigm. You know, you could say

that there's, I don't do it.

Listen, there's been many people to try to have a

holistic debunk of KMAC and it just

has failed. It hasn't

it just fails. I don't know if you're...

I think he fails to reconcile

the contradictions within the Jewish

tribe. No, he does

okay. No, he... He explains it.

I don't... He explains it in certain ways.

If you read culture of critique, if you read culture of critique, it's very clear that all the intellectual movements, very influential, these movements were, Frankfurt school, Boise and anthropology, etc.

You know, I know with certainty that there's no inherent rational Jewish instinct to propagate group survival because the way Israel acts is retarded.

That's your opinion. That's not their opinion. But objectively, Israel is an incredibly divided

fake country

and the only thing

that unifies them is the very thing

that's going to destroy them

so that alone debunks it to me

I don't think

I disagree with you actually

like if you look

if you look at, like,

how Israel has existed over the past,

just, we'll just say 20 years, I mean,

most of its enemies have been dealt with.

Jordan and Egypt is in the pocket of America.

Syria is no longer a threat. Iraq is no longer a threat.

Libya is no longer in effect.

And the last one standings, Iran.

So you can say it's retarded.

And Hezbollah has almost been dealt with.

They're still bombing Lebanon.

The last ones that are still fighting.

There are these resounding short-term victories.

But let's put some, let's be rational a little bit.

It hasn't even been a hundred years yet and the longevity of nations are measured in centuries they're not measured in one day so from that perspective they're already starting to talk about Turkey and say how Turkey is this threat, right?

So it's like, this is a paradigm that needs war and needs an eternal enemy, regional power.

It's only a matter of time before they fuck up and eat a nuke

maybe from Pakistan

I agree with you

I agree with you

I don't think Israel can

exist on a long-term basis

and I don't think

I don't think the American

I don't think the American Empire

can as well

but that but Jews

what Jews are doing, they see it, it is in their own self-interest. Now, I can't help that a lot of the Jews are retarded. In fact, I like that they're retarded. But the, you know, they're still doing it in their own interests.

You know, there is no, in my opinion, you know, when you talk about objectively,

we're not, we're, I don't know how you could, how you could measure, you know, what, you know, is in these groups' objectives kind of interest. They seem to certainly be trying to advance their own interests, and I take

them at their word for it. MacDonald fucks up

when he says, the only reason white people

go against their own interests is because of Jews.

No, he doesn't say that. He doesn't, he doesn't say that. He doesn't say that.

He does not say that. Because he

he has a whole, he has a whole book going over

you know european stuff and or european history and he talks about how you know white people for

example are an extremely universalist liberal people highly individualist and that allows them to be subverted by it.

The same dynamics exist among

the Jews, and the same accusations

from Zionist Jewish nationalists

are levied against more left-wing Jews

saying that they're traitors, they're

self-hating Jews. You ever heard the term self-hating

Jew? They invented... I've heard it. You ever heard the term self-hating Jew?

I've heard it. Yeah, so there's a similar dynamic going on there, you know?

So what can we... It cannot be denied that Jews are an intrinsically ethnocentric and collectivist group. In fact, I know this because the arguments that exist inside

of the Jewish community come down to what's best

for the Jew. That's not the case in the white community.

The white community aren't arguing what's best for white people.

They couldn't give a shit.

Among Jewish

nationalists, yes. Among white nationalists.

No, even among, even among

liberal Jews, like when you talk about

liberal jury,

which, you know, I mean, Barack was a part of and people argue

Epstein was also a part of this liberal Jewish fact.

Their debates are still

what's best for the Jews. Let's say I conceded that to you their their debates are still what's best for the jews

let's say i conceded to you that the majority of the jewish or israeli whatever are

regardless of their liberal conservative they believe in this by those are zionists so of course

they're jewish nationalists even if they're liberal. But in any case...

Well, you're going to have...

That's the vast majority of Jews, though.

Yeah, yeah, well, look, even if I conceded that and said this is inherent to Judaism,

is that a superior worldview or an inferior worldview?

Wait. In what sense?

Is being a petty ethnocentrist

superior than having a big, vast, universal outlook?

Well, I don't think Jews are these petty nationalists. I i don't think jews are these petty nationalists i don't think jews have ever created an empire ever

except in biblical times whereas

you know people that are part of big nations,

Russians, Turks,

Chinese,

you know,

Mongols.

Jews aren't international

group though.

There's Jews in Russia

in America.

And specifically the Jews in America and specifically

the Jews in America

that is where a lot

that is where a lot

of the dominance

of Israel comes from.

Let's be honest

about the real JQ

though.

Jews never had

this outside significance

until they were put in that position Jews never had this outsized significance until

they were put

in that position by the Latins

Western Europe.

Everyone else, in every other civilization,

they were just like

any other small ethnicity that were just

merchants doing nothing.

Only for...

No, they're still... I agree. They're still like that in Persia.

Yeah, in Persia, they're not that significant.

In China, they weren't.

In Muscovy, before Catherine the Great...

Or sorry, before they took the pail of the... of the pale of settlement, where Poland and Western Ukraine from the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, which was a Catholic Empire, Jews were not that significant. In the Ottoman Empire, I mean, they were there for sure, I mean, but there was like

not a big deal. It wasn't this like

thing going on, right?

The only civilization

that created Jewish

power as we know it

is the Western

European one.

Besides their own civilization

with the kingdom of Judah,

which was destroyed by Rome,

which I would consider a part of Western civilization.

There's really like 5 trillion years ago.

I thought we're talking about civilizations.

I was talking about a period of basically like the

Middle Ages to now. You're talking about like the

Bronze Age. Oh, sure. Yeah, sure, but that's where

a lot of... To be honest, to be honest,

do you want to know who those kingdom of Judah people were?

What do you mean?

They're mostly descendants of Canaanites?

Yeah, they're my ancestors.

Like, that's literally me.

Like, I come from that lineage.

Well, so is the Ashkenatsism. Yeah, but so do I. Like, even I come from that lineage. Well, so is the Ashkenat. So does the Ashkenazism.

Yeah, but so do I. Like, even I

come from that lineage. You're going to say Hasbalo

not on this big conspiracy. I agree.

I know you are. I know you are. I know you are.

I know, I agree. Yes.

The throw a hand grenade in this also.

It's like, don't tell those Russian Jews in their fucking minor village or whatever that the village next to them is also Jewish because they'll just start killing each other

Because that's like the whole history of Judaism before Israel is just like petty squabbles amongst different

fucking Jewish factions in various different

Jewish communities. There was like no

this universalization of the Jews is just

done by... Only until

the Gentiles started. Only only until the Gentile.

They created their own boogeyman for like

fucking five centuries.

Only until the Gentiles thrown in this equation.

Jews will fight amongst themselves, sure, but only until the Gentiles

thrown into the equation.

They'll unite over the gate.

Disagree big time.

Okay, you can, I guess, if you won't.

I mean, have you read the Old Testament?

Dude, from five billion years ago, we're talking about in the modern era.

They're still Jews.

Dude, I'm the Old Testament Jew.

It's literally me.

You're not the Old, You're not the Old Testament.

Sorry, buddy.

No, you're not.

No, you're not.

You are not a part of Judea.

No, you're not.

Yeah, I was, dude.

My ancestors literally lived there.

It's literally us.

So your ancestors were not a part of Judea.

No, they weren't.

Yes, they were, dude.

No, your ancestors were not a part

of the tribe of Judah. No, they weren't.

They were literally running around there with sticks

and stones in that whole, whatever.

And they were fighting, what were your ancestors? The

Amalek? Do you get destroyed? Do you know about

what Jews did to

non-Jewish people?

I'm still here.

I understand.

I understand you're still here.

No one's arguing against that.

I'm not arguing there's not a share lineage

between Panisites.

I'm not denying not.

It comes from South Lebanon, dude.

Do you know what South Lebanon was during those times?

Yes, I understand.

I'm just saying we converted to...

Understand.

We converted to Christianity and then we converted to Islam.

But that's, yeah, that's like my ancestors probably, right? So...

Your ancestors are a bunch of Jews?

Probably, the biblical ones, probably the biblical ones. I don't know.

Like, they're talking about two different people. There was a, there was a branching off when you're talking about two different people there was a

there was a branching off

when you're talking about the candidates you have the Jews

and then you have the I forgot the

I forgot the other name for it but you have a branching off

at Temple last

last fucking Saturday I mean it's just like

this whole concept of like

the eternal Jew is like

ever-pressed and every Jew

you say,

when you start to bring up the Bible,

when you're bringing up the Bible,

you lose me.

It's like,

dude,

that's too long ago.

I'm sorry.

They still follow it to

this day, dude. You can even find the liberal Jews

that are talking about Ticumbalam and shit like

that. Dude, dude, those liberal Jews

are literally just fucking libertards, dude.

Everyone does that. I agree

they're libtards, but they still cling on to their

Jewish identity. It's the same thing with progressive Christians.

What about Christians who have those churches with the gay pride flags?

They still think they're Christians.

You know who the biggest actual Jews on the planet are?

Evangelical Christians, the end.

Nobody else is...

Yeah, dude, all that shit's a Jew op, dude.

I just, I don't like how much time we're spending.

Why are we spending so much time talking about this?

Yeah, there are a bunch of...

Yes, yeah, yeah, you want to talk about, like, what is

the fourth or fifth grade awakening and, like,

who AstroTurf, Billy Graham,

dude, like, yeah, it's a bunch of media Jews.

You want to know why the Jews are winning

because we just spent

like an hour talking about stupid shit,

like about them. What's the point of this?

The Jews are winning because we're talking about Jewish power.

I mean, you know, maybe they might be winning because you deny it.

I can agree with that.

We're not even talking about.

I'm this.

That's because you went on some weird tangent about like Jews in like the bronze age or whatever.

I'm like,

I'm,

I'm annoyed about,

there's nothing paranoid or schizophrenic about it.

All right,

I'm becoming anti-Semitic because I'm just

fucking annoyed about hearing about Jews

at this point.

Thank you.

As long as I can make you a little bit more anti-Semitic

than I think I did a good job.

Whatever I get whatever, just so I have to stop hearing

about this. It's just fucking annoying.

Listen, I got a question for you.

This is a legitimate question.

I do want your opinion about this.

Because we were talking about, earlier we were talking about Epstein.

How much of a sizable impact do you think this Epstein office had on the right wing?

Not enough.

Red Disha got suspended.

Why suspended?

Why suspended?

Oh, the Instagram and

Oh, that's why they weren't posting.

Because the Instagram girl

that I DM'd who she

stole it from

fucking reported her

what the hell

the

Brianna

Briana Romero

literal hero literal hero All right let's not bother her guys don't bother The, Brianna! Brianna Romero!

Literal hero!

All right, let's not bother her, guys.

Don't bother Brianna.

We're not going to make memes of her on a tank with the Stalin hat.

Were you DMing your girls on Instagram?

No, no.

No, you don't know about this story.

It's above your pink, great, bro. Yeah're you're coming from a different corner of the internet

look guys

well I'm tapped in I'm tapped in with you guys

man I don't know I know which all are up to

you're not that tapped in if you don't know about

if you don't know about this you're not

I can't understand the words that are coming out of haz's mouth

he's like so guys red misha red misha's gone red misha's gone guys

hoss what do you this is a legitimate question i do what your opinion on, because I get called the same thing, and I think you get called it too.

When someone makes the third world this accusation of you, do you accept that title, or do you have a contention with

it or?

That came from

the BAP community, the Bronze Age pervert

people. Yeah, but now everyone uses it.

Yeah, I know, but I'm telling you, it came from them.

I know, I

trust me,

I'm well aware.

Yeah,

it was used to attack

anti-Zinus.

And then Nick Fuentes adopted it

because he secretly

admires BAP and is just resentful

that he wasn't let in the big club.

No,

the corporate and the Bathas

are basically the same thing now. It's up one goes to the church and one goes to the gym. No, the Groyper's and the Baptist are basically the same thing now.

It's up

one goes to the church

and one goes to the gym.

Yeah.

So there's that

and,

um,

you know,

the third world

is the accusation

is just calling you Goyim.

That's just what it means.

I think,

I think the people

who call

others third worldists are

in a sense literally engaging

in third worldism because

they're taking the position that Westerners can never

seek solidarity with the third world, which is what

the malice in the 40s

and 50s, who were actual third worldists took.

Because, like, the West is labor aristocracy

and intrinsically reactionary.

The Western Maoists, not the Chinese.

The Chinese didn't say that. I said

malice. I said Western malice.

No, third worldism is just these guys are talking about. I think that's true. I think when they say you're a third worldist, they are actually reinforcing the wrong idea that the American people, that it's in their interests for these you know these

interventions and for

for imperialism basically

and it's not you know it's really not in the interest

I mean if you look at the contrast

between the Iraq war

all the wars the U.S. has gotten involved

in Vietnam War and the quality of life of Americans and the dignity of Americans, frankly.

You look at small towns getting destroyed, devastated with drugs, deindustrialization.

We're talking about the destruction of livelihoods, opportunity, people becoming ensnared in debt.

The grain of truth to the argument is that imperialism maintains the credit card consumerist cycle machine.

But that's not...

Yeah, but it destroys the lower-end middle class. Yeah, yeah, that's not healthy. Yeah, but it destroys the lower and middle class.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's destructive. In the short term, does that activate people's dopamine

receptors? Yeah, but is it healthy for them? Is the health of the American people going up,

their life expectancy, their psychological well-being, their happiness,

you know, their ability to be dignified human beings. It's like, put it this way. Human beings,

you know, they, why do you think porn exists? Because human beings like sex.

Does that mean people are benefiting

from porn? No, no one's

benefiting from that. Well, the American

Empire is in... Oh, go ahead.

So, you know,

the accusation of third worldism

is just an admission that they believe that the interests of the american people are aligned with imperialism and with zionism and that's what they're hitting you know yeah and i i mean i think they're also the same as the leftists and people who they're calling third worldists because like you take a guy and you talk about Israel or Palestine and they're like, I'm taking this other third option of taking my own side. I don't understand how that's different from like a Cornell West or like the DSA that says that like they like they like they're against American regime change but also they're against the Islamic Republic so they have like this weird mystic third position that no one that no one's ever heard of I don't know how there's a difference between those two well I predicted before that I thought the Groypers and DSA would eventually merge.

I've always thought that.

But in any case...

The Bappas and the Groypurs have merged.

Like, there is no actual difference.

They got really mad at me because I pointed this out, but I

don't understand like what's the

like both sides are cheering

on imperialism.

And I don't understand what's the difference.

Because imperialism, I mean, if you're, if you're

a nationalist, have you read Michael Hudson

super imperialism? Are you familiar with that?

Seminole text for

our entire community. Yes,

yes. The, the

basis of the American Empire is not

like the way it was in the 19th century.

It's based on dollar hegemony

and the overvaluation of the USDA.

I understand how it works.

And that...

What did you say?

Yeah, I understand how it works.

Listen, man.

You know, I think that we agree on a lot of things,

but the thing we're... Hey, man, just keep attacking the American... listen man you know i think that we agree on a lot of things but

the thing we're... Hey man just keep attacking

the American Empire and I won't have a beef with you

yeah

yeah I mean we don't have to get into

the nitty gritty again retread

I think we both know well it only is it said

debating the far right,

so I thought I just threw my hat in the ring.

But as long as you're, like,

locked in on attacking imperialism and Zionism, dude,

it's just like whatever.

I'm in Grish, and I think if you keep going down this path,

I think eventually you're going to be one of us.

You're going to become a Marxist.

Dude, I've read Marx.

Look, I've read, I know MCM.

I know this stuff.

It's not, I don't, I don't have this, like,

hesitant rejection of Marxism.

I think you're on a pipeline, for sure.

Okay.

There's going to get clipped, and everyone,

every, all of my haters are going to be like,

you look, Dumerant, that's basically saying he's a Marxist, too.

But, but fuck them.

Who are they, you know?

Yeah, they're nobody.

Everyone's free to go their own path and go their own way.

You don't have to...

Listen, if I could just say, I'm going to give you some unsolicited advice.

Worst thing you could do is give a fuck about what these stupid online communities give...

No, I don't get a shit.

Like, there is nothing going on there there's literally

nothing there these are not friends these are like people will attack you though whatever and

all my credibility is going to ruin it's like it doesn't matter it doesn't matter at the end of

no they just they I've already been rejected

from the old degree

check and since this.

So it's like,

I don't care anymore.

Somebody I like was

academic agent.

Academic agents started making

videos where he's saying,

you know what?

Everyone's lying about Stalin.

Stalin actually wasn't

this thing that they're saying, right?

Oh, so many people

fucking attacked him and said all these things about him.

And he's like, well, I don't give a fuck, right?

And it's like, that's the energy you need, right?

Because at the end of the day, you know...

Yeah, but he also kind of turned

into a plus see. Well, i don't want to get into the

beef of the drama but at the end of the day truth truth truth truth and you know you got to follow

your conscience wherever it leads you mashala mashillah ma's all I'll say alright so

anyways man this is dice talking to you I'll see you later

sure see you so Kyle let's bring up

who's next well we have time

you want to try and fix your mic first

yeah I could unplug it and re-plug it in

yeah first. Yeah, I could unplug it and re-plug it in.

Yeah. Hello, can you hear me?

Hello?

Yeah, wait a second.

Haas is fixing the bike.

No problem.

How's it now?

Yeah, I can hear you, Haas. Try speaking. How's it now yeah

I can hear you

how I was trying speaking

Kyle how's it now

it's a little bit better

but it's a little bit better

that's good

all right well we got to go

with what we have

we're going to be ending the stream

soon anyway I think it's probably going to be ending this stream soon anyway. I think it's probably

going to be our last. Is there anyone like very

significant in the waiting room?

I mean

not really. I mean

no offense

for those who are waiting.

Yeah, yeah, okay, okay. This will be our last person.

How are we doing, how? Is we all doing good?

Yeah.

Good, good. So, um, so, um, so first off, props to do me that. That's my nigger right

there. Love them. there. I'm Palestinian.

My father was

born in Jerusalem. My mother's family is also

from Jerusalem, but her father's

born in Jordan. And I don't like to consider

myself an anti-Zionist.

I prefer to just say straight up.

I'm an anti-Semite.

I'm just an anti-Semite.

And for me, it's just, like, you guys were talking about a lot of,, like, larger, deeper things as it were.

And, you know, not the smartest guy on the block.

I've got that 90 and 95.

I got to ask, what's, what is the point?

The point is is that, um, I want these people off my land, and I'm not interested in playing games of, oh, well, there's a difference between an anti-Zionist and anti-Semite.

I'm not interested in playing games of...

Well, what's your point, though?

Like, who's saying?

Like, who's saying that?

Well, my... Let's go, what's going to have a lot of liberal Jews, a lot of liberal Zionists that like to say that you even have, like, a lot of these so-called anti-Zionist, poor Jews, that be like, Zionism is not Judaism.

These are two different things but and practical reality

I mean they are the same thing.

If I lived in Palestine,

you know,

I just,

I just think that in America.

Well,

let me just go,

well,

well, has,

let me just tell you,

like,

by the end of the day,

in terms of,

like,

what's happening in the West Bank.

Like, let me, like, let me actually paint this.

Let me paint this scenario for you.

I know, I'm well aware of what's going on.

Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, but I just want to, like, I want to paint this scenario.

Why are you acting like I'm, like, fucking.

No, no, I'm doing.

Who are... Why are you acting like... No, I'm not...

Yeah, I'm not a fucking breadtuber, dude.

Like, I could care...

No, no, no, you know you're not a breadtuber.

Like, it's a called...

Like, it's called... Like, we hate breadtube.

Uh, Bradtub... Uh, not Not the wind straight in the woodchipper

But the

What I'm trying to say is that like

From the perspective of like the people in these villages in the West Bank

They're not seeing Zionists

They're not seeing Lekudniks

They're not seeing

Gennett and Yahoo supporters They're not seeing recutniks. They're not seeing the Netanyahu supporters.

They're not seeing what they're seeing are...

I'm well aware.

I'm well aware what they're seeing.

But what are you saying that?

Okay.

And my point is that the society as a whole

that's called both within the West, the

cellars in the West Bank and the Israeli society as a whole

supports that. And the point that

Dumanaut was trying to make, and this is the point that

matters to me, is that the majority of Jews,

even the majority of Jews, even ultimately really

the majority of Jewish youth, Jewish youth, the ultimate

supports this.

So let's...

All right, so let's go to China where they have the Kaifeng Jews and yell at them because of this.

Well, let's go to what.

No, I'm sorry, I can hear you.

What?

Can you not hear me?

I can hear you just What? Can you not hear me? I can hear you just fine.

Okay, can you fucking calm down and stop interrupting me?

Because if Kyle can hear me, you could hear me too.

You're universalizing Jewish identities so that the way that Palestinians would treat Jews in Palestine should be exactly like how we treat them in America, which I don't agree with because not all American Jews are complicit in what's going on in Palestine.

Well, the thing is, is that, like, well, not America, not all American Jews are complicit with that.

I'm a practical person. I'm a practical person. So what is it you're asking me? Like, what practical position are you forwarding?

Are you forwarding the moral position that all Jews are tainted?

Even if I conceded that to you, what does that actually mean practically?

Like, why should I care?

Okay, they're tainted. So what?

Well, for me, practically

speaking, like, by the end of the day,

it, like, it reminds me of,

like, fucking, like, stupid

lip-tart arguments, like, well, okay, white

people are not okay. Oh,

straight people are not okay. It's like,

what, what is this?

What's the practical significance of what you're saying?

Like, okay, they're not okay, okay.

Well, what does that actually fucking mean?

I'm not, uh, fuck, did the space crash?

Jesus Christ.

Yeah, the space

crashed.

Fuck. Can you hear me? Can you hear me?

Hello, hello, hello. Hello, hello.

But he's still talking.

I can't hear anyone now.

My fucking, yeah, blue stacks.

And this is why I don't record the spaces on X, guys, because it's fucking buggy and shitty shitty because blue stacks is a piece of shit can't hear anyone

I'll try to fucking fix my blue stack settings

ay ay yi wow wow why do I do deserve this shit

speakers speakers are fine do I deserve this shit speakers

speakers are fine

yeah

I don't know what I'm going to do

like straight up

guys I can't hear anything

I'll try to exit out and join one more time

this is so fucking annoying

can you guys hear me ones if you can This is so fucking annoying.

Can you guys hear me? Ones if you can hear me now?

Hello?

Fuck this is not working.

I got to restart blue stacks itself, which fuck my life, right?

You know what I'm gonna do?

I'm gonna fucking die yikes okay it's gonna be like reconnecting i have 45 seconds this is bad.

Hello? Can you hear me?

Hello?

I can.

Yeah, yeah, I'm on my phone, but I need it to stream it.

So I'm going to go back to Blue Stacks.

Fair enough.

So I wasn't trying to be agro towards you at all.

I just have this. It's a bit of a passionate guy.

Passionate dude.

But that was my mind.

Hello?

Hello?

I can hear you just fine.

Yeah, yeah, okay, okay.

I reconnected.

All right, anyway,

yeah, look, I'm a practical person, so these kind of moral things I don't really care about in terms of that specific moral thing.

You know, like, well, we don't know the difference between Jews and Zionists.

It's like, well, I'm not the one complaining and pearl clutching necessarily about

these kind of things. But at the same time, when we're talking about America, do we have to say that anti-Zionist Jews are excluded?

That, you know, we shouldn't, we shouldn't, we shouldn't, you know, they are tainted.

And it's like, well, no, I will continue to, uh, you know, I'm not going to create racial and ethnic barriers of any kind or accept any kind, period. I mean, I just don't believe in that. And I live in America. So, you know, I will call out Zionism and attack Zionism.

And I get accused of being anti-Semitic either way, so it's not like I'm scared of that.

It's just that, but in principle, it's not even just like a moral thing.

She's like, I find it retarded.

I'm not going to just attack someone just because of what their lineage is

and what their heritage is.

It's just as simple as that.

Well, for me,

the issue really is this

is that we talk about

anti-Zionist Jews

and I'm like,

yeah,

I mean,

like,

listen,

I hate Max Bloom as all.

I hate Max Boone's all. I hate Max Buhl. I'm not the one claiming that, like, anti-Zionist Jews

need to be, like, put on a pedestal.

I'm just saying they are anti-Zionists,

and they're also Jews. That's all I'm saying.

Well, the thing for me is like this is that, like,

because I remember, like, you and Duman that were talking about,

okay, what's the most moral thing than anti-Zionist Jew can do?

Right.

I get to go, well, for me, I can do one better.

Anti-Zionist Jews can, as it called,

can engage in militant action against the state of Israel and in militant

action against, uh, it's called pro-er.

That doesn't make any sense. If you're, if you are a Jew born in the USA who's never been to Israel

and you have nothing to do with Israel.

You have an obligation to now take militant action against some random fucking

bullshit. Like, that's just stupid.

There are Americans that's called,

they're American Arabs or Arabs born

outside of their Palestinians born

outside of... What I'm saying is... There are Palestinians born outside of...

What's the...

What I'm saying is that there are Palestinians born outside of Palestine.

I have a son of Lebanese immigrants

who came here when they were kids

because Israel was bombing them,

by the way.

I'm a...

My lineage is South...

What I'm saying?

What I'm saying is...

Shia, okay?

You know, my lineage is

people who were in resistance fighting Israel.

And it would not cross my mind that I'm going to go fight in Lebanon because I'm an American.

I was born and raised here.

So imagine somebody who's been in this country for generations as a Jew has nothing to do with Israel, doesn't even have any parents who are from there.

What responsibility do they have to go to the Middle East and fight any war?

I don't think they have...

They seem to... A lot of them seem to feel a responsibility to go move to Israel and join

the IDF.

Then they're not American.

Yeah, I find that fucked up.

I think that those people are disgusting and, uh, you know, whatever happens.

Well, here's the thing.

It's neither, well, here's the thing.

It's like whether it's anti-Zionist, so-called anti-Zionist Jews in America or so-called

anti-Zionist Jews in Israel, in particular.

But let's start in Israel.

Look, man, at the end of the day, this is kind of like impotent because let's do, let's just start with the bare minimum which is anti-Zionism ban

zionism from the USA and you know ban the dual citizenship get rid of Zionist money in politics, and, you know, have a state that is anti-Zionist, in principle, you're already going to be accused of all this anti-Semitism and shit. You're like, no, let's go further. Let's say we hate, it's like like this is just crying out with impotence

because we can't do the basics,

which is anti-Zionism.

That's my take. It's like...

Well, for me, the reason is... I feel like

you're powerful enough

to larp these

scenarios where you're going to, like,

destroy the entire Jewish lineage,

which is just not going to happen.

And if it did happen,

it would just mean that all the...

Like, it's just going to be total racial wars and cannibalism,

and everyone just killing each other.

There is no scenario in which

Jews will be isolated and

all Goeim will unite against

them. That will never happen.

That literally was the

case before 1945.

That literally was it. That literally was it

that literally was the

that were actually

in particular

that literally was the case

in the 19th century

going for

what's called

Going past

where Jews were put in ghettos

they were put in ghettos

they were isolated

they were put in those

they were quotas

on the ages. Okay what What? From the Middle Ages that's called the they were isolated. They were put in those old they were quotas on...

Okay, what...

Not from the Middle Ages

It was going to

like the mid-19th century

I was going to

like the mid-19th century.

That was

that the Jews

lived in ghettos in Europe

because they were the only

fucking non-Christian minority

that was allowed in Europe

Muslims didn't even have ghettos

because they weren't allowed

Well you had to tell you had Muslims

in the Russian Empire

You know what the Cathars were

The Jews that were in the Russian Empire came from the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.

I'm saying you had Muslims.

You had Muslims in the Russian Empire.

I know, I know.

I know, but the tradition of Jewish, whatever, ghettoism came from the Polish-Lithuan Commonwealth. They didn't come from Russia. They didn't, like, create it themselves. Anyway, look, what I'll say is this. At the end of the day day all religious LARP

I'm against it

period I have no patience for it

I'm not trying to engage in like religious

LARP you know I'm not speaking to you I'm just

telling you I have no patience for it I don't want to hear

about it I don't care about it and I will

I am not someone who prays to God because I want to impress religious LARPers. If I find it and deem it necessary, I will go full Bolshevik atheists just to eliminate LARPers. And then I'll pray to god privately and hope he forgives me but i really

hate the religious larp a lot but i don't see what i had scala i don't say like oh do you think i was

larking religiously with that i just, I don't want to hear

about the Torah

and the Tachnach and the

chah ha ha ha ha ha ha I don't want to hear

about it.

But a lot of these people hold to those beliefs.

I don't care what they think.

I don't care what stupid things anyone thinks.

I don't care.

I don't want to hear about

it it's not interesting to me

but they act upon those books okay okay so and

and and and and and what

what a what some of these elites

you know they believe in all sorts of stupid

crazy shit.

Do I have to fucking concern and obsess myself with it?

No, I don't have to deal with nonsense.

Do I have to care about what Freemasons and all this shit?

I don't have to care.

Well, well, Freemasons aren't relevant.

Freemasons haven't really been relevant since the 19th century.

I'm not fascinated by this like a cult, whatever.

And also, look, when I see

like the Jewish rabbi be like,

go you! Or go ahead!

I'm like, I don't care. I mean, that's pretty funny.

That's fucking funny.

But if Alba Hamas

his name, he's like,

and then he sees the WhatsApp symbol, and he literally

just goes back shit and say it's the funniest

shit I ever seen. But what I'm saying is...

I can't take it seriously. I can't take it seriously.

But here's the funny thing. You say you can't take it seriously,

but then that same rabbi,

literally him is literally

on the border with Lebanon,

like it's a couple, like with a bunch of people

saying that we're about to take Lebanon.

We're going to take Lebanon.

It's going to happen.

That's the problem.

He can say that and

he can deal with the consequences.

But at the end of the day, I am

not going to be fascinated or

fixate on his retarded

worldview. It just doesn't impress me.

It doesn't fascinate me.

It's not about it being impressive, right?

It's not about being impressive or fascinating.

It's about, it's the reality

of these people. Can you understand

how I think about things?

I mean, I think I do.

I, listen. I mean, I think I do. I, listen.

I am the commanda.

Do you understand what that means?

Are you the captain of the ship?

No, no, no, I'm saying I am the commanda.

Do you understand what that means?

I could explain it if you don't understand. Do you understand? If means? I could explain if you don't understand.

Do you understand?

If it's a reference to something, I don't understand it.

No, no, it's not.

I am NICOMANDA.

Do you understand what that means?

You're the competitor.

Okay, what it means is,

I set the terms and conditions

of what we give a fuck about.

So if people cross our red lines, our Marxist faith, we send them to the Gulag.

I don't care what reasoning they have.

I don't care what stories they tell themselves.

I don't care what they're worshipping and what they're doing.

I don't care. You fuck up with and what they're doing. I don't care. You

fuck up with us, we send you to the gulag. Don't care what your excuses. I don't care if you're

a Muslim, a Jew, a Christian, a Buddhist, I don't give a fuck. You fuck with our revolution. You

fuck with our cause. we send you to Gulag

you will be in the minds, you will

be working, and it will happen

because what we care about is Supreme

not them.

Some crazy rabbi doesn't

create my reality. You know who

creates my reality?

Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, and Xi Jinping, by the way.

So...

Well, we definitely agree like the chairman's

that's a real mega right there so

i am the commander okay

i am the commander

you understand it's just for me

it's just for me like i'm just dead with these people

no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no i am the

commander okay with these people believe. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I am the commanda.

Okay.

Okay.

It's just, I just think the understanding of these people believe makes it easier to deal with them.

If you don't know what they believe, you don't know how they're going to act.

I don't care about any of that.

I am decukwanda

okay? I mean, have you ever read any of the internal

Israeli memos? I don't got to read anything. I am Dukamanda, okay?

I think reading things like the clean break memo and the

audit you non- paper and reading things

and reading what the Japanese do. I think

reading about who the commande is

would help clarify

your confusion

because I'm telling me directly.

Okay.

Well, look what happened in Syria, right?

You know, when Bashar Aastodzacal, it was forced to flee the country, right, after HTS

took, and that's because he was trying to rule the soft gloves instead of an iron fist.

But the point is,

but the point is,

we look at what's happening

to get stereo right now,

it literally,

it literally plays into

what's called a long-term strategy

if the Israelis have had

since the early 80s.

A strategy that has to do

what's called the,

that was put forth seriously

by O'Donan, who was an advisor to Errol Chiron. You know, the best has to do what's it called, that was put forth seriously by Orde de Yanon, who was an advisor to Errol Sharon.

You know, the best way to destroy Israel?

We saw Ariel Sharon first try to do this

when he invaded Lebanon in 1982.

His goal was, it's called,

his goal was to push the Palestinians into Jordan Jordan and it sounds like he's your commanda. What can I say? It's not my commandant I'm saying these people to have beliefs and they act on those beliefs. You want to beat Israel? Be better. That's my solution. Be better.

That's my solution. Be better.

Be superior in your ideology, in your strategy, in your every respect, in your morality, in every respect. Just be superior.

That's it.

Okay. Okay.

Okay, sure, but like, you're not going to beat your enemy if you don't understand, like,

if you don't understand what he's trying to do.

You can understand what he's trying to do without having to care about the delusion he tells himself.

Like, I don't care about the third temple.

I'm going to build the third temple.

It's like, okay, you know, you're not going to, this is LARP.

This is just insane LARP.

I don't think it's an insane larp.

I think it's a real thing they try to do it's a real thing they're trying to do,

and I worry that they're going to do it.

Then why do you have the nukes?

Where's the nukes?

Whose fault is it?

There's no nukes.

Is it,

whose fault?

Is it Ariel Sharon's fraud?

No.

It's the greedy capitalist bastards of the Arab world fault.

No, I said this is what I fucking hate them too.

They're greedy, capitalist badass.

Yeah, I hate them too.

I agree with you.

I hate them too.

Why can't Kuwaitis do push-ups?

Because they're diabetic?

And who made them be that way?

Why can't they do push-ups?

They can do... Can they even do ten push-ups?

Find me a single man from Kuwait who even do 10 push-ups. Find me a single man from Kuwait

who can do 10 push-ups.

Like,

like, I mean, I don't know, man.

Like, I mean, they're golfers, dude.

I can do 10 because I'm the commanda.

I could bench 315.

Like, I mean,

with the point I'm trying to make.

Well, 15 is not a lot, but I'm just saying.

315.

Oh, that's pretty good.

In a row?

315 in a row?

It was like a year ago. I bench 315. I did it twice it was like a year ago.

I bet you 15.

I did it twice,

but like it's

probably a little bit.

All right.

Anyway, look,

at the end of the day,

you're either the commanda

or are you the commanded.

You have a mentality of the commanded.

Not the commanda.

Yeah, but

Hassan Nostrullah would read the New York Times

and he read Israeli praise.

No, he was a, he didn't care about

LARP. He was a commander.

He wasn't LARPing.

He was just called he R.HG, he didn't best to understand he as well. He didn't, he didn't care't LARPing. He was his help. He did his best

to understand the Israel. He didn't. He didn't

care about LARP. That's why he was a command.

Yeah. Yeah, and he would read

the Times of Israel, the Jerusalem

Politan Hades. You did you think Nisrala let

Israelis get to him and get in his head

and he's starting to be fascinated and care about their hopes and dreams and their in joy.

He didn't give a fuck about that.

No, but he understood their mentality and he has always tried to understand their mentality.

And he used that to fight them and how you want.

And you're not going to find out their mentality in the Tanakh and the Hanakh.

You're not going to find anything useful.

I'm trying to just respect any religion, but I'm

just saying it's like, can we stop the LARP?

But a lot of Jews believe that,

and they act upon their beliefs

in the Talmud and the

Tanakh. No, we live in a world

of materialism. Nobody acts from

religious belief except a few people.

It's like saying like, oh, I want to

understand the root of...

The 700,000 plus

several is...

Well, the Northern Louis says, we need to understand the root of ISIS.

Let's talk, let's go and delve into the archives of Islam and the Quran and all this ancient stuff.

It's like Jesus fucking Christ.

No, I mean, the history of ISIS

is much more complex than a bunch of

like the Ushpexry of Klai.

I get the idea. It's like, if you want to

understand Muslims, you know,

I'm not going to go to a Quran. I'm going to go

to the Lubu Boo store and look at the receipts

because that's the world we live in. I'm going to go to the Loboobu store and look at the receipts because that's the world we live in.

I'm going to go to the Baja cafe and look at

the Muslims, but Muslims are varied, right?

Like, I mean, like, the Shafar, yeah, a difference from Hanafi,

a difference from Wahis, a difference from

512 or and 12 or a year.

I don't think it's useful to understand geopolitics

as the...

I don't think it's useful at all.

What I'm saying, but the here's the thing,

like, you know, the settlers in the West Bank

like believe.

They really believe in their heart of hearts.

Yeah, everyone believes in everything and whatever.

That's fine.

They believe it.

They're fucking whatever.

They're not jobs.

They can believe whatever they believe.

And they're killing my people in the West Bank, and that matters.

I understand.

But the way to destroy them is through military superiority, not through fixating on

the chana halakha, you know?

Well, it's not about fixing it.

It's about understanding them.

You don't have to...

I don't believe in that at all.

You don't have to understand anything.

You have to understand how to be better.

That's it.

I don't know.

That's insulting.

That insults me. I don't need to

understand

my enemy in terms of like get into

their head and get intimate with their

emotions. I don't have to give a fuck by any of that.

You just, you have an enemy, you deal

with it, you neutralize them,

you win.

Out of sight, out of mind.

In the gulag, you're not seeing them.

They're dealing with it. I'm not dealing with it.

And yet you and I are on Twitter and Hezbollah

is on the ground.

But Hussim Moustrola's understanding

of israeli society

and israeli politics

is what allowed

is what helped him

the defeat to Israel

in 1980 he didn't do

he didn't constantly

soy out about ancient babylonian jewish texts from five trillion years ago

he wasn't starting out about it but he understood what they believe both the way he understood

the israeli mentality and the israeli society is observing how they would

act, observing their psychology

in terms of how they would react

to things in a very

practical way. Like, you were talking about

very practical kind of

understanding the enemy in terms of how they move.

But what you're talking about is like let's fixate on all the things that motivate them on a moral

level and, you know, kind of freak out about it.

Like, oh, this is what they think that we have to neutralize this idea in their head.

And it's like, you're not- It's not about neutralizing the idea in their head and it's like

you're not...

It's not about neutralizing the idea

in their head. It's about... Because you're saying

like people's moral beliefs that's called

what moves them.

But that's where I'm...

Like someone who is...

I disagree.

Someone who is pro-life,

what's it called,

and believes that

it deeply enough

will be part of a

pro-life cost to some degree

whether he's getting money.

But what I think

is that

people's moral

beliefs can only compel them

inso far as the material conditions align with those beliefs.

And it's more important to focus on the material conditions of the belief than the belief itself.

That's my view.

I mean, I don't know.

I mean, the material conditions of average...

I think that...

Yeah, but the material conditions of the average settler in the West Bank

is far superior to that of the average Palestinian.

Again, there they are.

And maybe the Palestinian strategy

has to focus on

changing that. I mean, I think that the

I could talk to you all day about what I think

the strategy should be, but at the

end of the day,

nothing will happen without

a revolution

in that region. It's just the

truth. Yeah, but we had

the leftist cause it in the 60s and 70s and the 80s, and it faltered.

Yeah, well, they should come back and fix what they messed up and win this time.

I mean, sure, but like the reality of what we're dealing right now is we're talking about basing you're dealing with defeatism by spiraling talking about the hanaka

i don't really think that's just that's what i'm trying to do

i mean so okay so okay because you said this you said that the material conditions are more important

than the moral beliefs.

I'm going to bring the Jewish guy, ready?

Oh, okay, well, I'm in Israel.

What do you want to ask him?

But what I'm saying is that the material... You want to ask me?

But what I'm saying is that the material...

You want to ask

me what I think about

Israel.

The material conditions

of the average

several in the West Bank

is...

What is her name?

A wonder of woman from South Hollywood? What are you? the West Bank is... What is her name? A wonderful man from

Zott, Hollywood.

What's her name?

Her name?

Her name?

Uh,

what is her fucking name, guys?

I forgot.

What's her name?

Kahl Khadot.

You know, Kal Khadot. You know,

Chal Khatot?

Well,

Gau,

fuck me, I can't even see her name

right now.

It's called Gara.

She's a...

Yeah, she's a... Yeah called she's a yeah she's a

yeah she's an ethnic Jew

and she does

what she does

it's called

it's called

she does

because she's

an ethnic Jew

and she's a

Zionist

because she's

an ethnic

Jew

Zionism is

how she

expresses her

Jewish supremacy

it's why she does what you...

We have the sexy

Khal Khadot

for the Khayim

and your support.

Listen,

God bless you.

I don't even meet you

with you a lot of

what you do.

I like a lot of what you say.

I mean,

we agree,

get the Groypers.

We're real ziggers.

That's our word.

Everyone can say ziggar.

I mean, there's a lot we agree on,

but I think obviously,

I think it's just obvious that we're just not going to agree on this.

So we're going to disagree.

What is there to even agree okay so because the point I was trying to make was that the

is that the material you said that morale that the moral beliefs

uh um the sorry the material conditions outweigh more beliefs and convictions right

and with that right but I agree with that.

Right.

But what I'm trying to say is that look at the West Bank, look at the several in the West Bank.

I'm aware. Their material conditions are much, it's called to R.

It's called the R.

It's called the R.

No.

No, this is like when Red Misha said that rape is okay as long as if you're poor in black.

That's not what I'm saying.

I'm not making an excuse for their beliefs by blaming their material conditions.

I'm saying they're being enabled by those conditions.

Like, they're being enabled.

I'm not saying that, oh, we can forgive them.

No, I'm not saying that.

I'm saying the opposite.

I'm saying...

I know you're not saying that.

I'm saying the material conditions are allowing crazy retarded psychopaths to run wild and get away with all these atrocities and fucked up things in the West Bank because of the U.S. system of super imperialism, which allows quote unquote Israel to survive by getting unlimited funding and

aid from the USA with fake printed money that will

constantly allow it to be replenished in terms of its ammunition

and its stockpiles and to be in a military position of never being able to

be threatened by any regional power,

and that, you know, the specific conditions that allow this geopolitical security,

which is materially rooted, and, you know, which basically permit the possibility

of that hegemony to be maintained.

That's all material, okay?

And in those conditions,

you're giving people the liberty

to larp and enact

these extremely

retarded depraved fantasies like

the third temple and all this stuff

the settlers are motivated by

but the only reason

those retarded beliefs they have

are being

relevant or being

enabled is because of the military conditions.

Without those, they would just be

homeless people screaming on the street.

You understand what I'm saying?

Okay, well, I mean, I get

that. So then my question

is this, let's just say that the settlers in the West Bank

lose all their subsidies, right?

Because their material conditions are basically

heavily subsidized by Israel,

by, you know, international donations

and whatnot. Let's just say they lose all that.

Let's just say they lose all that, and's just say they lose all that, and they become

just as dirt poor as the Palestinians. What do you think

they'll do? They'll get fucking destroyed by everyone around

them. Okay.

So, but what I'm saying

is like, what are they, I'm not saying

what's going to happen to them. I'm not saying what are they going to react.

They become as they're poor.

What are they going to do?

They're going to have to fight their neighbors on an equal footing and they're going to get outnumbered and destroyed.

But then that's the thing.

You're saying they're going to fight their neighbors.

So then whether they're poor or whether they're rich,

they're still going to do what they're going,

they're still going to try to do what they're going to do.

Yeah.

So then the material conditions are irrelevant,

the moral beliefs are what's relevant.

Absolutely relevant because it's the material conditions

that can make the difference

between a schizophrenic homeless man

on the street yelling

and somebody with an M16

that's able to shoot people

and get away with it.

I don't even necessarily disagree with you.

I think that to go about it,

I think the settlers are

just cowardly shits, and I

do believe that, like, if they didn't have

the material conditions to do what they do, they would

probably easily get, like, you know,

expelled. But

the reality is, they would still

try to continue what they would do.

Even if they'd fail, which they likely would.

I don't disagree.

Yeah, they'd fail.

But do you understand the very fact that schizophrenics exist means every possible ideology already

exists and people are already trying to do it.

The reason we hear about some

rather than others is because of material conditions.

There's somebody outside

on the sidewalk right now

who is fighting for an ideology

they call

um

uh

zip log bag

uh poopism

where they poop in a zip log bag and worship it

and then burn it and say

they want to conquer all of

Hawaii because the god of the zip log bag and say they want to conquer all of Hawaii

because the god of the Ziplog bad told them about it.

And that exists. That's real.

That's actually someone he's willing to die for it and he's motivated by.

He's probably going to stab someone tomorrow because, you know,

he thinks he's doing the right thing

and that just

infinitely infinite

very it's just like constantly replenishing all

the capacities of the human imagination

can create anything

but the only thing that makes a difference

is the material cosmos.

Okay? Material reality.

So that's all I'm saying.

I mean, okay, sure.

Like, you know, if you gave the, it's called

the Pee-Poo-Poo Man, it's called

a rifle, you gave him a home,

theoretically, it's called it, and you were supported him, theoretically. Yeah, you propped him on and you gave him a home theoretically to call it and you were

supported him theoretically you propped him off

and you gave him that position to

act upon these things

and if this aligned with reality

you know materially

and aligned with the various

interests that play it's like then you're looking at something different.

Okay, so then...

Why do you entertain one and ignore the others

because one is materially disposed to have relevancy?

Yeah, but I guess the point is that

the material conditions are irrelevant to his motivation.

So he's still motivated by his moral convictions.

And even if he doesn't have a sense, he's going to try.

These motivations are a consequence

of the depravity and insanity

of the capitalist system

I mean I don't know

I think the motivations of the West Bank

is a consequence of the depravity

and insanity

of capitalist modernity

absolutely I think I think the settlers in the West Bank of capitalist modernity. Absolutely.

I think the settlers in the West Bank aren't really motivated by capitalism.

I think they're motivated by Jewish supremacy. They're motivated by capitalist ideology,

but that worldview they have is a consequence of the depravity of the world materially.

I mean, I think we could debate that, but the point I'm trying to make about the settlement is...

You don't think that the world, as it is now, compels many people to have fucked up, twisted, anti-human, psychopathic worldviews that are depraved?

Of course it does.

I mean, sure, but I think it's...

I think Jewish nationalism, as it's called...

I mean, you can say that...

Well, yeah, you can say that

Jewish nationalism is the reaction to capitalism

Because the people

Because the people that

Well, yeah, well, here's the thing

It's like, they were also like,

like the founding Zionists were socialists, though.

Like the same group of people,

The same pool of people

of the Bolsheviks.

And Hitler called

himself a socialist. So what?

But the same pool of people

that the Bolsheviks were recruiting from,

the Zionists were recruiting from.

The same group of, like, you know,

of Jewish socialists

that were part of the world or democratic

Charles Thomas. Hold on. The Bolsheviks

main target was not them but

I'm saying

I'm saying is that when they were recruiting

young young Jews right

yeah both were recruiting trying to recruit young Jews, right? Yeah, both were recruiting

trying to recruit young Jews.

The Zionists and the Bolsheviks

were competing with each other

for that same

for that same group

pool of people.

Yeah.

And it's go there.

The German communists

were competing

with the Nazis

over the same pool of people.

Well...

And we fight

we fight with the Groypers

over the same

pool of people.

Well, no,

it's like,

you think the war is over.

What do you think

the fight's ever over?

When communists

and fascist fight,

what do you think

they're fighting over?

They're fighting over the same people.

No,

the gripers

recruit from like

disaffected

uh it's a nominally religious white

man you

they recruit

they recruit from all

young men of military age

yeah but to go

but i don't know too but nick has made it clear, like, this is

a white movement, this is a white nationalist

movement.

It doesn't matter what Nick says. 90% of his

sympathizers are Hispanics.

Well, my understanding

I read this actual study.

You go to your local gym and ask people if they know who Nick Flentes is.

And you'll find a lot of people know.

And if they were fans before the EPSC, because that was a thing.

And he's getting nuked now. Thank God.

But when he was-

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, totally good to death, I agree with you.

The brown hordes

and the male side of thing

supported Nick Fuentes. It's just

unfortunate.

I mean, yeah,

Nick does have,

there was an actual study done on this

by the Institute of Hedodox Thinking.

It was actually, they did a sociological study

on the Groybers, right?

Which is really interesting.

And they said that about,

it was closer like 30% of Nick's

audience or like at least a third of next audience

was actually non-white. Yeah. So the majority of the

audience is... I'm aware it's, it's young

men, young military age men in America.

That's still majority white.

Right? America is still appealing

to this. America, America is majority white.

But Nick does

generally want to appeal to this, though he

will accept non-whites within his

larger sphere.

We appeal to

everyone, and we're majority white.

We're 75% white.

Well, sure.

Sure.

But I think that's...

Well, sure, sure.

But...

I think there is a difference, ultimately,

and how...

And what Nick is trying to do what you're trying

to do. And I think it's

you think Bolsheviks and Zionists

were trying to do the same thing?

I think Bolsheviks and Zionists were trying

to, I think Bolsheviks and Zionists when they were

recruiting from young,

that's it called from young

Ashkenazi Jews when they were recruiting from young um that's it called from young um

young ashenazi Jews

uh in the empire

they are to call the

ultimately these were all generally like left wing

Jew they were trying to

no they were trying to

um

be the leaders of how their

dissatisfaction with the capitalist order

would be articulated.

And Zionists operated the same

way fascists did.

They targeted the same demographic that

communists do.

And that was that.

That was that micro-Jewish struggle in the, you know, the sub-fascist.

But the end result was a socialist state.

You could consider modern Israel like

a fascist state, or at least a fascist

presenting state, but the original

state of Israel was a socialist state.

Yeah, you're talking about the kibbutz and shit.

Look, not only just the kibbutz and shit. Look,

I mean, like, I mean, like,

I mean, the labor, I mean, David Bingurion was,

was, uh,

Ahudat of Rit, if I'm saying that, right?

I'm aware of these things, right?

And what I mean, the 1920,

the 1921, the Haifa riots was about...

It's like, so it started by Bingudian because he was trying to expel communists out of, what's it called...

out of like Zionist circles and unite, what's it called the Jewish left as it were under his

form of Jewish labor socialism. Yeah,

I'm aware, but Jewish labor socialism

is part of the long lineage in the

1920s and 30s

and early, even the early

nights. I mean, how?

I mean, hell, I don't even further.

You interrupt me when I'm tired. It's so fucking annoying.

I'm trying to get a fucking sentence out.

Anyway.

I apologize.

In the early 1900s,

there were these various strands

of counter-Marxist or counter-Bolshevik strands of quote-unquote socialism,

which included Mussolini's bullshit. It included a lot of these weirdos running around in Germany before the Nazis and then it included the Nazis themselves

and the Labor Zionists

were just one of these counter

Bolshevik

socialists

and that they were all

reaction to capitalism and the breakdown

of capitalism. Yeah

well sure but they were the ones committing the majority of capitalism. Yeah, well, sure, but they were the ones

committing the majority of the atrocities are in the Nakhpa.

Like, the majority of the stuff that was happening

was being done by the Alexandroni Brigade,

which was filled with Mapai and Mapan members,

who considered themselves,

some of them consider themselves

devout Marxists.

You know, Tentota,

Tentura, was literally committed

to, as we all know about Tentura,

it was a bunch of socialists that were doing this.

In fact, it was a bunch of people

that considered themselves communist.

Even England had a socialist government after World War II, quote it technically, right?

But when I'm not talking about the depravity of capitalism,

I'm talking about capitalism as a system, not an ideology.

And what we're talking about here are a bunch of people who were ideologically devoted to some socialist ideals that were still very much part of a capitalist system.

Israel, as much as you're told that it was socialist and yada, yada, yada, yada, was embedded in international financial capitalism, which is what actually created the capital to bankroll these little caboots experiments, which were by no means the bedrock and foundation of that fake nation

Mm-hmm.

Well, I mean, I guess, but like

again, the thing that, what

motivated those soldiers during the

Nakba to do what they did,

were their, was

their Jewish socialism

right? Yes they had

yes it's a cold

it was it was capitalist

and you know the Jewish mob in America

supplying their ideology was they were

I mean

it does because they didn't have the ideology they probably wouldn't have committed the ideology, they probably wouldn't have committed the knockoff.

I disagree with that.

It's a classic kind of colonial structure you're dealing with, and they considered the Palestinians as savage

natives that had to be eradicated

because they weren't civilized enough

Yeah, they all did.

Yeah, exactly. So

you don't need a specific

ideology for that. That's a material

relationship. But if they didn't believe, but if they didn't believe the Palestinians specific ideology for that. That's a material...

But if they didn't believe...

But if they didn't believe

the Palestinians were savages, they wouldn't

try to kill them. I agree.

But that belief would have had to come

with

them not being in

Palestine in the first place.

The very premises and conditions

were that they moved to Palestine,

put them, you know, that's where they

were. I mean, that's why Zionism was

a disaster should have never happened.

Now, if they would have stayed in,

let's say they would have stayed in Poland or something and fought the class struggle within Poland, right? Then the bridge to be able to see Palestinians of human beings or any other people as human beings would be there, because you could have the international solidarity of the working class

and they wouldn't be moving to Palestine to steal the land they would be staying where they are

and you know they could just tip their hat to the Arab socialists and everyone can tip their hats

and the whole world gets along and it's all great.

But that's not what happened, right?

Anyway.

Well, anyway, sorry, you're going to say something?

Yeah, I was just going to say I'm getting really tired and bored of this conversation.

Well, I mean, let's go go.

We'll agree and disagree, but I appreciate you letting me come up and speak. to this conversation. Well, I mean, it's called to a world, we will agree,

disagree, but I appreciate you letting me come up and speak.

Yeah, and I think that you,

you said smoke meth, that's why,

because, and you said, what the hell?

World War now, enjoy,

are you fucking follow that retard,

oh, canonist?

He's literally

retarded.

You know

that?

Well,

it's a good.

I've known him

for,

I've known

Demitri and

Conrad for years

before they

created a little

now.

I was on

their show

at least seven times.

You know he

thinks I'm a Jew?

I was on their show At least seven times

He thinks I'm a Jew

Um

I actually didn't know that

But that's surprising

Ask him privately

I'll ask him on time

I mean

He literally says

He claims I'm a Jew

He thinks I'm a Jew He thinks I'm a Jew. He thinks I'm a Jew.

It's a tech out of me, sir?

Yeah, and then mis-thakadabi.

No, okay. Yeah, you don't speak Arabic.

But no, it's just like, um...

I'll tell, I mean, I'll talk to Dimitri behind the scenes,

but that's weird

that he believes that.

But the,

but the,

but the,

but no,

the,

I've known,

I've known the both of them.

I have a personal relationship.

You know what that sick fuck did?

He,

uh,

he tried to make a big fuss

within internal Russian politics, which never happened because he's a retarded larper.

But he told this chief larper in Russia named Antonovsky, who's the head of this big telegram called the Sons of the Monarchy, to write a hit piece on me and some of my left-wing friends

and say,

and then they promoted the clip of me

saying that Rasputin

beat the cheeks of Tsar Alexandra or whatever.

And they tried to get me in trouble trouble basically. And like, you know, they,

they, they caused like moral outrage over it that like never, nobody even gave a fuck about it.

And like, all the Russians who actually showed it to me, like, were laughing about it because

it was like so random that they showed this English kick streamer talking about this as a way to, like, cancel me and my friends in Russia.

And say, like, why is you allowed in Russia? What's going on?

And then, like, it's funny because nobody gave a fuck.

I'm just saying that's funny.

It's just, like, an epic fail.

That guy actually, like, tries to fuck with me.

I'm not even lying.

Oh, canonist.

He lives in Australia, too, with kangaroos.

Yeah, I know he lives in Australia.

Yeah, with the kangaroos, and he's doing this shit, right?

Well, you live in America, and I live in America.

Yeah, I'm an American, and he pretends to be a Russian.

Well, Demetri doesn't pretend to be Russian, he's ethnically Russian.

Okay, and I'm ethnically Tartarian.

They're ethnically Lebanese.

It doesn't matter because I live in a fucking

country where it doesn't matter. You understand?

Yeah, but the thing

about me as a, the thing about

Palestinian is that I eventually want to

go back. Like that's the point

to the Palestinian cause. Like the moment

I'm going to make it like really clear to everyone

here, the moment I'm allowed to go

back, I'm going to sell it. I'm going to convince

me my family to sell all the property

we have that we're going to fuck out.

Where are you born?

I was born in Florida, but my

parents were, but my father was born in Jerusalem.

I mean, more power to you, if you want

to go there, that's fine.

Yes, I want to live on my father's land.

The reason why I am here is because... It's because Jews made it so hard for my father to live life.

He had to come here.

The reason why...

It's called Palestinians live in 12th and

In the refugee camps in the West Bank

And in Gaza and in the surrounding

Middle East or the ones

That had the money were able to go

I'm just so exhausted

I'm bringing the guy

Oh not Jolly fella it's just a zero again.

All right, Kyle, that's it.

There's another guy, but we're well past that two hour, Mark.

Yeah, I can't do it.

We got to, let it.

All right, guys, I'm going to be deleting the space from my timeline.

It's not recorded, so don't worry.

I'm not deleting a recording.

There is no recording.

It's on kick.

Kick.com slash infrared if you want to hear this entire space.

Okay, we're ending it right now.

Goodbye.

We're ending the space. Kick.com. We're ending the space.

Kick.com.

Solution for anime

streaming and

collecting many

donations.

Anyway,

guys,

bye-bye.

All right, it wasn't that lit, guys, but it was something.

You can't say there was nothing going on.

You got some kecks.

Got some keks in the chat.

I'm not going to, I'm not going to expropriate y'all with the subs too much because I didn't bring the same level of content as the last space.

But I did bring some content.

You know, you can't say it was a big waste of time.

All right.

Well, Gorilla Logo.

Thank you, brother.

Thank you, brother.

Gorilla logo. What's up, man?

Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

I stress, Danny. Appreciate you, bro.

Daniel Tut is talking to some crazy ass shit.

I don't know.

I even know what to say.

Like, fuck.

I wanted to watch a movie when the stream ended, but I'm not going to have time.

I have to go with bed.

Well, I have to eat first.

Shit. You know, Okay, I'm gonna call Carlos.

Hold on.

But I have to mute it. Why did you tell Daniel Tutt about how I took his account?

Why'd you leak that?

I thought I thought it was a secret

Yeah I'm sorry

Because after he told us to tell

They just have to know bro

These people have to know

We'll take anyone's

fucking account

We have all the fucking numbers

I took his account

To this day To this I use it now I use it We have all the fucking numbers. I took his account. To this day,

you know, I used it now. I use it to

DM all the eagles.

Yeah. As him.

Yeah. And it's like, I catfish

them. I tell him we're going to go

on a date. They say, I can't wait. Daniel

Tut, the Marxist professor,

they're jumping for joy, right?

And then when we meet up, it's just me.

Yeah, yeah.

And it's a catfish, but, you know, hey,

sometimes they're just like, well, you know what?

I got dressed up and I'm going out tonight.

May as well just stay for this dinner.

Why do you guys think Red Misha hasn't posted?

By with her account got suspended.

But, yeah yeah come on man

Daniel Tutt first we didn't tell

Elon Musk to fix his account

and then you told him about how I

I used my advanced

coding skills

to hack his account.

Famous hacker, Adam to hear.

Bro, I'm

going to say the truth.

Yeah. I say the truth. Yeah.

All right. Here's what happened I

and not just me

Eddie and Noah

genuinely thought

yeah I know

but before

before ACP

you thought Jackson

was like

yeah yeah

knew like

everyone

yeah

we thought Jackson was so

well connected

because of

besides

that he could actually get musk.

And what we would do is use the story of him bringing back pro-Palestine people.

Yeah.

Yeah, I remember.

I remember the story.

And you told Danny Shaw that you could, Jackson would be able to fix his shit or something.

Wait, if I'm on stream, let me finish.

So I can fucking let the people know.

Clean the record.

I already told them.

Oh, okay.

I'm not watching the stream.

Yeah, I already.

Big news.

Big news.

No, I already told them.

See the EB chat later.

Big news, huge news.

I'm going to look at it right now.

Dude, there's, oh my God.

This is like.

Tremendous.

Is it the Antifa thing?

Oh, bro.

The 6.3, 6.3K thing.

Okay, I'm looking. There's's a lot here just give me a second Wait, what? Hold on.

Yes.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on, let me...

I can't see anything, hold on. That's got to be like totally...

No.

I just confirmed it. How is that possible

no idea

by everything in front of me is unique

no repetition

what

80% of them tried to join and couldn't

because of fucking what?

That's not true.

Bro, I can send you the fucking Excel right now.

No, it's not that they tried.

These are people that started the process.

Can I just say it on stream?

I don't know.

How many of them came recently versus the past?

I don't know. I don't have that.

But this is in total.

Total is 6.2 something, 6.3.

This includes the subscriptions of all kinds of attempts to join.

All right, guys, the big news is that, like, apparently there's 6,000 people who have tried to join ACP, over 6,000.

Apparently, over 6,000 people confirmed have tried to join. They made it to the point.

Yeah.

They made it to the point where they put in their details. Yeah. But you got like cold feet or something to the point. Yeah. To the point where they put in their details.

Yeah.

But you got like cold feet or something at the end.

Or it was too complicated for them or some shit.

Jesus Christ.

Yeah.

We have to investigate this more.

Like all this time there was

that would be the worst thing in the world if it was true

that yeah that'd be awful

but if it is true

it is true it is

it couldn't be bots could it

no no these are

they tell me the location

and everything

for some of them

there's some that's just an email

yeah that's a lot.

Yeah, we got to fix our sign-up shit, for real.

Like, that's, you know, but I feel like a lot of them left didn't join because of the sign-up

shit.

And that's a lot.

That's a lot.

It is not recent guys

this is like over the period of time

we've been around yeah

we have to do something

yeah we'll talk about more I gotta see you

I'll see you man bye bye

alright

well uh soon. All right.

Well, uh, yeah.

Well, I got to look into that.

Anyway, guys, I got to eat.

And, uh, I got to end the stream.

But I hope you had a good time.

I'll be back.

Sunday.