The Mecha-Tankie MAGA Revolution

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hello

hey

what's going on

i have i debate to you before

uh no actually i'm ah i'm a floater around uh like discord politics and stuff but uh

i've been meaning to talk to you for a while

okay

yeah so

my name's sun um

and

i guess like

i generally categorize myself as a leftist and like tendencies and whatnot but

i actually agree with a lot of your base analysis in the the

rise of maga communism substack

it's just the conclusion right which your solution to the problems that you're pointing out which i think most of them are correct to point out

is the maga communism being the solution to

um or the vector by which uh

workers can

get together and unite form a basis here in our formal political affairs

oky go ahead make your argument

yeah

so

one of the things about maga communism that gets me like first and foremost right

is when we talk about

how can we get an inroad for workers to have like

real political power

because i feel like

the original maga movement wasn't actually a workers' movement

obviously it was

propped up and

perpetuated by lake

opposition right bourgeois

uh who

misled i feel in a great many ways the working class who ended up following him

and i get worried i have skepticisms

that this is holding itself

um

it's still within like maga communism

if we're to move forward with this

it's still a tendency

that will show itself the bourgeois tendencies that maga started with

you let's be more precise about what those tendencies are because i don't i don'tsuing be a common

not a common level it's far as what we're talking about here

uhhuh

so what do you mean by those bousgeois tendencies are you talking about sheldon aedlson's money

and that

the israel lobby basically i don't i can't really think of anyone else

from the a ruling class

wheike the bourgeoisie

if you're referring to the small

class of capitalists

like you know people who

small corporations basically

what are you referring to specifically

yeah for sure

so one of the like hallmarks of any given movement we

let's take bernie's left populism

like push right

now i'm not a fan of like burni or whatever

but when it comes to

his

movement or his popularity

tendencies and whatnot he's obviously like part of or at least adjacent to the ruling class in one way or another i mean he's a social democrat right and

but

in the

margo movement

i think it's important to recognize that

this isn't like a grassroots movement and maga communism's trying to recapture

m at least what i'm looking at it's attempting to recapture

of movement that's entrenched with right opposition bourgeois who don't actually care or want anything to do

with their populist party other than it being a voting base

ok so who are you referring to by the busgeoisie let's just get more specific here

yeah for sure

so in this case like originally trump and his but this base has expanded out broader than just him

but but

if we focus on trump real quick as the icon of maga

he still is the icon four workers in the maga movement

uh

it's pretty apparent to me

that

trump

doesn't really have like an ideological tendency himself i think he's just kind of a narcissist

and i'm wondering like what's the strategy for maga communism to try and like

detach itself away and pull itself away from republican pundits

and what notot who are like the who who are

not for the working class

by interest

okay i mean that wasn't exactly what i was asking for i guess i can answer what you were asking right because remember i'm asking what do you mean by the buoisie and when and what do you mean by the maga not being grassroots

i'm not exactly sure what you mean by all that

but is far as how to disentangle mago from the republican party is that we're asking

yeah we can just start with that

yeah i already see the fault lines developing as we speak

the republican party is rallying behind ron de santas

establishment republicans are openly against donald trump

and even the non established the so called non established ones

now rallied behind desantas

i don't think trump is very popular among the upper ranks of the republican party

and it's also splitting the voter base as well because you have two

great factions of the republican party electorate

one of them is the george w bush republican electorate the traditional republican electorate

the other is the blue collar one

that increasingly

moved to the republican party

since the era of reagan democrats

you know nixon the reagan democrats and then even more after obama's great betrayal and then after bernie sanderss great betrayal all these people who were democrat adjacent or democrat sympathetic

union workers non union workers

they all moved to the republican party

and there was already this sizable portion of

you know kind of upper middle class respectable suburbanites

many of whom are migrating to the democrats but a great many of whom are still in the republican party so there's already a republican civil war going on

yeah that's fair

um my

my problem i guess is like i'm worried about the direction that maga communism might present for the right populists in the united states and by right populist i mean the average working class like conservative

a

and i think as all communists should be in favor for i want to unite the working class right

i don't think that it's good to galvanize or create splits or whatnot but i worry that maga communism doesn't have

a

like

a goal

of

uniting the working class as a whole it has a goal of pulling over

um

like right wing populace exclusively

two

it's

like directive or to bringing them closer to like class consciousness and what so you said that you read the substak do you do you think there would be a reason why maga communism would focus on the mago working class

exceptionally

rather than you know

yeah so there's two reasons for this at least reading from your substack what i can get is that you have a particular distaste which is understandable and i do as well for the leftsm in the united states

um and i've watched a decent amount of your content but you go pretty hard to

against what's the second reason because i don't s it's not really

the main resut my set my second reason which is the

primary reason is that you believe that or as you outlined in your substact that maga or the working class under maga is the only

working class movement in the united states at the moment more specifically

it's the only partisan form of politics that exists right now

oh right so when you talk about like the partisan revolutionary

yeah

and i actually agree with your analysis on the partisan revolutionary bit

my

is she

is that i don't think right now this is like a concretely partisan movement

i think it's still it hasn't detached itself and

uh ya

so i don't know if

like

um

if this is a development

that will happen in the future i can't the basic idea of maga communism is that

maga is a different world there's a different world within america

or there's two worlds that constitute america there's the world of

joe bidens america normal america the america that's existed in continuity with

the presidents have passed and then there' is bizarro timeline america

you know rogue america i like to call it north korea america if you will

that's mine

yeah so when i say maga

i'm referring on a geographical level i'm referring on a demographic level

and on a temporal level even

you not even just a spatial one

a completely different world in america a completely different

h existence of what it means for america to be a country right

and so to me maga just means

the

posed currently

of all forms of counter hedemonic

politics ideologies and basically world views

ok

in your

this kind of links back to something i i want to touch on do you mind if we focus on this specifically cause yeah i think this is like the heart of the maga communism like theory that you went through on your substack

because you actually kind of touched on this in your libertarian stalinism video

when you talk about how the goal of like libertarian stalinism

is

or not the goal but one of the

principles behind it

is like

explicit counter hedemonic

like position

you're talking about how like it's not ok to agree with biden just because he does a thing that you like

m like you don't just side with him because he does an infrastructure bill

the east

like you have to be more principled than that

yeah well and i'm not necessarily

about being principled it is more about understanding he gemony

right

so

when it comes to

hegemony

um

and being counter establishment

there are certain forms of being counter establishment

which i feel like

might be like unproductive not to say that it's ok to side with the establishment

uh but there are certain forms that like you're kind of just like replaying into it from the opposite direction right

just because i

you disagree

with biden obviously that doesn't mean you get to go

like agree inside with trump on everything that he says and i don't think that you do that

but i feel like it's a tendency that i've

uh

been seeing

in a number of

and a number of people that i've been talking to in your community

well i guess it would depend on what exactly is being talked about but trump is a symbol and he's a symbol of a counteredgemonic

positan

and if people are going out of their way to agree with him it's sly not because they actually agree with him

but more that they agree with the meaning of what he's saying in relation

to geminy right

if trumps says something that is an alternative fact that is like literally

factually wrong

we may still say yes he's right not because we think he's factually correct

but because he is right to defy jeminy

right he's right to defy

the consensus on what truth is

that is it

instantiated in an institutional way

but what i would really say is that

marga

is

for us much more vague and broad than any specific

grategy or any specific

kind of ideology or anything like that

it is just a

it's just the part american form of partisan politics an american form of partisanship

so that ambiguity is i mean maybe you could say it's outdated right now

especially with

you know for example ron desent is

rose to prominence

on the basis of his covid policies and his you know mandate policies

he's also big on the anti woke stuff

so i at face value it seems like

thissants is also host to some kind of counter hegemonic

position

people who are in that kind of counterhededemonic space

very easily find it symple they find it easy to sympathize with the santas and like to santas

but obviously desantis is not counterhedemonic in actuality right

so

i could see the argument that this is like o outdated magas outdated

but my problem with that is that it has not been succeeded by anything yet

so i thises is

to me maga is just the beginning it's where we are right now

it's not the end point

it's just this is where we are right now

maga communism is pretty much a go down to the countryside slogan

build communism out of the maga movement

the model movement is probably doomed

at the way it's going right now i agree it's a train to

trump twenty twenty four it doesn't look so great right now right

but maga communism is more a call to action

or a

a call to reorient

once do you perceive

on like

where is a communist movement going to be built it's going to be built from

the maga movement it's going to be a successor to the spirit of the counter headsmonic spirit of the maga movement

ok

so do you believe that

and this is the case for many movements

but

do you believe that

maga communism might have had

a

a

far better chance at being like

a vector for like a fully realized vector for partisan participation in

politics for the working class if this was done a little bit earlier

because i feel like

um

like you were talking about the that energy forro magas dying down and this is just an inroads

at this point but i feel like

there could have been something more if

this happened

i think the time for something more is now if maga as it stands is going to die it's going to die for a reason

and there's been plenty of other incarnations of partisanship in the history of american politics

which are just history they've died right

but i think maga communism

is also calling for a marxist leninist understanding of history

so in the marxist leninist understanding of history

there is a continuity there is a revolutionary tradition

and it's basically a flame that just takes new forms right

so maga communism basically means yeah maga may die

but there's this revolutionary flame there's this counter hegemonic kernel within maga

that and you want to concentrate that's going to be succeeded by something new

or something new will be built out of that that's that's our beginning right now is mago

ok

so

the what touched me about

because i hadn't thought about it like this before i think my favorite part of the substack is the partisan revolutionary

because i hadn't thought about it like that before but it opened up a

a

a direction

uh

for partisan politics like theoretically that i

i think might be more

successful

when

if morger communism

is or wll maga is to die out

then i think that

in the grand scheme of things

and you might agree that would be a good thing right because that flame has nothing to latch on to and that gives us the opening

to bill some thing out of that fill and i think what is

it's never a good thing i

before it's necessary that it has to

die out so marxism supposed to be this science right

and according to the science of marxism maga is going to die out right at this pace at least

that's not necessarily because we think it's normatively good it's an insight into necessity if if it

could still exist if margo could still exist

i guess that would not necessarily be bad it would just force us to change our understanding

of the situation strategically

while the situation strategically it's very clear

margot does not have a consciousness

of

its own basis right now it doesn't have a consciousness of

what is mago where did mago come from what makes that movement

the maga movement rather than just

disantiss or the neo cons

or something else

so it's missing class consciousness basically

right

im

that's my understanding like twenty sixteen is not going to happen again

because right now is the time for maga to sit and reflect on what it is

and

what it what it actually was was a working class movement that lacked working class consciousness

it had a tangential kind of blue collar consciousness

but it never developed that into like a political

consciousness or strategy based on the interests of the working class

right

so

in developing past

maga communism because it is just going to end up being one aspect of

i guess you could call a multiplicity of movements that

need two

come up in their partisan form

um

going based off of what i'm

reading here

um

i read

one specific thing that i want you to expand upon and i might have some contentions here and this might be where the debate will pick up

but you said in your stubsack that the leftist is in fact the greatest enemy of the partisan

um

and if you don't mind me quoting you too much here but not simply because they have contrary values but contrary subjectivities

represents the highest development of the bourgeois political ideology

which is based on what is supposed to be the ultimate form of change

i don't

think that

unless you're lumping in like the

a liberal leftism like conflation that americans make all the time like as part of this analysis

i don't think that necessarily

like leftism has become

a

a hedgemonic like appropriated bourgeoie force

i think i think so because leftim

is a theory of political change it's a ideology of political change

it's not actually political change it's an id it's a reflexive ideology of political change

and that corresponds to the rule of the bourgeoisie because the bourgeoisie has to continually change

the laws and political institutions and cultural institutions of civil society

to keep up with the you know detortoralization of capital

if you're familiar with that term

it just basically means like the way capital melts all that is solid into air

which is oh yeah i'm i'm a fan of your uh use of deluz by the way he's um

he's one of my favorites i have my

a ten analytical tendencies and not

sphere of thinkers

um

but

my contention

is that leftisarm or more broadly like progressive liberalism in the united states while it's true that this is like while your analysis is true a political to that i feel like your

community

has

alienated a lot of leftists for understandable reasons but i feel like there is something to be said

trying to find a space to unite both the right populist working class

and the left populace working the problem

the problem is that well i don't first of all i don't think there is a left populous working class that you could argue there was one in twenty fifteen

when bernie was still fresh

a lot of that moved into maga if not all of it

m

but

i i would also say that you know everyone as an individual

is decent i guess right everyone's just a thinker individually we all have our different views and values but leftism would not be leftism if it wasn't a discourse i it wasn't a community

it wasn't a kind of high of mind

and it's precisely that hive of mind that's

what defines leftism for me

i mean it's all well and great to hold certain principles and values

as an individual right

but how does that translate or how does that actually exist or how does it find expression

you know like

for example and any given

form of leftism

twitter social media any leftist organization

you know the dsa to c p sa to p s

it's a hive mind that seems to

in a apparently decentralized but not really decentralized way

act as an enforcer

foror the consciousness

the institutions

and the hegemony that now prevails

miss very mysteriously obviously i don't find it actually mysterious i think there's a reason why

left isum

he's popular

it's not because i think leftist influencers are all cia although you know yeah there's been some strange stuff dug up about that

it's more that

it articulates and distills

the

essence of the hegemony that already prevails

leftism is this kind of like this hermanutic of figuring out how to make your world view the most compatible

with m t v and disney and like mainstream media and academia and all this stuff

so that's what leftism is to me i'm not necessarily saying leftism is all created

by the cia and the rockefellers and so on

a lot of it is

but even in a decentralized way the reason why leftist communities inevitably

go in the direction they do which is wrecking anys possibility

of forming a working clas of reaching the working class

wrecking the possibility of doing anything productively constantly getting caught up in these like

pointless cannibalistic debates about identity politics all this kind of stuff

why it's really because

leftism is actually an ideology of ageminy

of the hegemony that prevails right now

then i guess i should uh

plant myself for also the chot as well but for

our discussion

m i should

plant where i sit ideologically because i sympathize with the partisan thing

wh i say i'm a leftist um i only do that because uh

the majority of the people that i hang out with and talk to are leftist but if you don't mind me doxing myself i live in texas

and

i and the people that i work with on the ground

that we consider ourselves not like

uniquely left us but

as abolitionists now when we talk to the average person we don't say like

i'm not an anarchist or anything but i just mean strictly the abolitionist

the abolitionist tendency towards capitalism

um

sorry i'm rambling

the

what i guess i'm trying to get at is that i live in texas where the majority of us over here are going to be like conservative working class people that i talk to on the day to day

the

mmm

when i talk to these people

and i

bring them around to

my view of things i actually approach it very similarly to the maga communism thing the difference is that i don't use the same rhetoric that you do

so i watched your video on the ground at a trump rally

as very popular video at this point

and one thing i notice is the difference between our language

so you'll use their language their empty signifiers

um

to appeal to them

the deep state red tape

like

a things that would appeal very directly to their sensibilities because that's the language they've been using for years now

a

whenever i like talk to them

i

talk to them with pretty concrete terms about immediate like locality

and immediate local politics to get them activized

to caring about

the infrastructure in their area

like why is it

that the

like

the city council doesn't want to fuck and do anything why are they funded

by like these com these big companies coming in that are like gentrifying our neighborhoods and shit

and they listened to me through that rhetoric as well

um all the same and so i'm wondering why you chose

using their empty signifiers over more concrete rhetoric i think they're there floating signifiers right or am i getting that wrong

n know that i more correct i feel like floating signifier would be more correct

yeah yeah i i i get them mixed up all the time

well i am

i just think they're two different things if you're focusing on the local situation i do think you could probably get away with not

saying things that would be problematic from a leftist's perspective like

you know

you speaking in language that is commonly associated with the right

but the problem is that

that

even from their perspective when you talk about government corruption for example

can i please get on band on the disank you so much expol englis research go in the bottom when you talk about the

the government corruption sorry the corruption at the local level we're getting robbed and stuff

you are

you're doing something that i think

you know maga communists should be doing

yeah i'm always talking about the local level you need to become leaders oft the local level

but the people you're talking to

are still placing your rhetoric

within the context

of

its relationship to hegemines so when they hear you speak

there that is just part of their mago worldview right

you're not really touching upon

their political consciousness

or their national consciousness right

you're just kind of

targeting an aspect of it

like for example everyone likes hamburgers

this is a bizarre example but

go to mcdonald's

like some one person can eat a hamburger

and another person can one person may be maga the other person may be a liberal

but the're reading hamburgers all the same

but in one person's life they're eating hamburgers

while being a mago supporter so their entire world is structured differently

than the liberal even though it's the same thing and i feel like when it comes to local issues

it can kind of work in the same way i think this is actually what the floating signifies

sort of referred to for la claouw it's like

you can have leftists and maga people agree on specific issues

but they're contextualizing it

in completely different ways in relation to hegeminy

so i find it i do find it admirable

to begin from the ground up

and i encourage that

but

even in order to coordinate that something like that at the national level like if i were to tell all my followers

we need to coordinate this

and use this specific kind of rhetoric whatever at the national level

sorry at sorry at the local level but i'm addressing a national audience

the question of hegeminy would have to raise its head because

i'm addressing them

not in a local way

so if you want to form a national strategy of any kind you have to address the issue of ageminy

i

i worry that the the

that

those the average working class individual in the maga

communism movement or in maga like more broadly

um

like you take the average working class individual

ah from anywhere on the political map in the united states and they're going to have a lot of preconceptions misconceptions misinformation to dig through but there's one there's something unique i don't necessarily in the maga movement anyway

that i don't actually necessarily think that they're strictly counter hydromonic

i believe that they're counter the current hedgemony

and that doesn't and i'm not saying that in the sense that they want like a dictatorship with the proletariat and they want a hegemony for them i think that they want um because they've like this is the conditions that they've been in for so long they want a

a

they want their own hegemony represented through

onm various political pundits and whatnot i feel like a lot of them would default toards like elected mooral politics even trump's

administration

which i know was filled to the brim with neo cons and stuff

but

that was a that was like a a

a rogue state

within a state

it was counterheadjim i mean that's what created the maga movement or fleshed it out it's like

the media is constantly saying orns mad bad

is orange man bad actually bad well you go down the rabbit hole there's queuing on there's all this stuff

and it's like all you take the red bill holy shit the whole media the whole institutions of our society

you know

the political class are all lying to us

and that's kind of where mago was

so you know i think

i don't think you they may dream of building a an actual new hegemony

but it's never gone close to that right it's always been counter hedgemonic

um

again the

okay so when i came into this conversation the

i tried coming in without any preconceptions because i've watched a couple of your debates before and i just don't want to

i'm

make any of those same mistakes so i'm glad that this is more of a discussion for the moment

but there is something that i want to touch on

and it's around the uh

the reference to carl schmidt

um i don't actually take an issue with you referencing him because he has fine political theory like depending on what you're looking at but it has to do with your fixation on ruralty

um

and i think this is important sy morality or rrality

ality ality myad

and i just because i don't want to butcher the quote here i

i just want to find it real quick in the substart

i appreciate you having me on by the way

yeah no problem

see

you oh here it is

partisans are not leftists but they are also not righttist either the partisan irregular stands opposed to the standardized order of the regular army

this i agree with

from the perspective of the regular army order it is a force of chaos

and this is my

a point of contention

but it is a deeply terrestrial earthly with a profound attachment to the soil of the nation and the deeper order of rural life

so

in terms of

the urban rural divide

obviously it's not as black and white as there are urban areas and there are rural areas because you can have comparatively rural

area is buried within

like an urban landscape

and what that looks like

this

dependent

but

but if you can

touch on why you have

a fixation on

the

rurality

when most of the working class in the united states whether they're proletarian or just

like wage laborers like baristas or whatever

these people live in

urban landscapes

i would

it depends on what you mean by urban

if you just mean that in a strictly light

m

you know geo

geographic

level

or if you mean that i'm a kind of like

it depends on exactly what you mean by that right because there's towns

like i would say for example

thatli there's

the surrounding flint michigan that in a way that's rule right

but obviously flint is a city

so

i i'll get more into that in a second but the reason i have a fixation on it well the obvious reason would probably be because

as a marxist linist

the entire history of marxism leninism has been a shift

from the urban

you know modernized urban perspective

revolutionary perspective

to the countryside so beginning from lenin's

democratic dictatorship of the workers and peasants

through stalin and the way in which he empowered the peasants

at the expense of the city

rolltes arri it and the through mau

the mo was probably

the one that's clear as day

and the other one which

nobody there's not a lot of familiarity with

from marxist sout eleast in america

is the iranian revolution probably my biggest biggest source of fixation on rural life

it's probably because of the iranian revolution

right now the

i don't know if i'd call it a fixation on rural life

instead of more of an understanding of what relation rurality has to the urbit

and the idea is that

the rule

there is a parasitism of town upon country

as marx describes

that has been reflected

as the parisism of town and country within

a country it's been reflected in the form of colonialism

it's been reflected in the form of imperialism in the imperial corps versus

peripheral states and so on

so that's a that but what underpins that relationship in general

is

where is the source

what is the actual geographic

and social basis of hergeminy

where does geminy need to parasitically replenish itself

in order to sustain itself

the urban urbanity is basically like an extension of hegemonic consciousness

and rationalism

so in urban it's like it's like if you understand in computer language i guess it's like the difference between

a natural language which would be rule versus an artificial language

that's urban right

so

it's an urban life

that

the material necessity out of which social bondage

is formed

is temper

whereas in urban life

there's all this experimentation that's allowed

because it rests upon the back

of this kind of

apparently stagnant

a backward order in the countryside

you know we can

experiment in the cities only because we're getting a steady dose were stitting getting a steady revenue of grain

that's feeding us by peasants

youo are caught in the idiocy of rural life to quote marx

doing the same thing over and over again repetitively

and like that's what gives us the freedom to experiment here in the cities and be like avan guard and stuff

now i'm not necessarily saying this gives agriculture

specifically any privileged significance

but the sociological relationship

has endured

between the rural and the urban even across

changes in the forces of production

so

in a broad sense

factory work

industrial work

in many cases

has actually replaced agriculture sociologically

in terms of the relationship it bears to urbanity

right

so the rural urban distinction

is

more a

it's more based on

a relationship to to

institutions actually

so

urban space

is governed directly by institutions urban space is the

abode of institutions it's where institutions exercise

in a very direct way

the social governance and engineering of life right

mmhmm

like its where life reflects

institutions right that's to me what urban is

okay

ya rule

is

more kind of kept in check

by

like brute

political power

and it's not

it's outside of the reach of institutions

it rather has to just be kept in check with guns in a sense i that's why like the

if you go to the south in america for example

every one knows the

the federal government the f b i

they're way more hard core in the south i mean oh for sure yeah i mean they're way more hard core right

noll

and there's a reason for that because

because the south is more rural

you know the a t f the f b i they have to keep people in check

because they're not domesticated as much by institutions that people in the cities are

that's actually why mout more or less

views the peasants as revolutionary as opposed to the

the city dwellers

yeah

so

translating that to now

um

because in the united states we don't have

peasants unless you want to make an analogy towards like a

incredibly impoverished like immigrants or what not

but we don't really have peasantry any moore

it's if

your

sufficiently into the

like marxist sphere marxist linist fhere then there's a distinction between the proletariat and the working class

um i don't make that distinction much myself but

um

i

i want to

i want to ask

have you read like i don't think i'm

pronouncing his name correctly but have you read a bdo

or elaine buta i think that's using yes yes but do ok

yeah so

a not too long ago i read

m

the a book called philosophy for militants

um

and

it was

something that i kind of want to bring up here when he talks about

what is to be done and the soldier figure

for

if you will or like the hero figure

for the working class or communism or whatever ideology that we're going with

and after maga communism

right

cause this this won't last forever where do you think we need to go

because i'm i'm worried that

we're going to run into a dead end with us and i want something to be

here to take up that torch

afterwards well

i want to say one thing is that i think sociologically

what happened i think

there's been a big misunderstanding by marxist as far as the peasant the presant question

throughout history

and there's this view that in the west the kind of the working class simply replace the peasantry and the peasantry just like

are gone right

but what happened

in reality was more this kind of very bizarre merger right

mhm

and this

officially

began

or culminated

in these like

political revolutions of the thirties

mainly like the new deal in the united states

the stalin revolution in the soviet union

the labor party in britain and so on whatever was going on in france

especially in the post war period

i think kojev alexander kojev kind of describes this process

of is the emergence of this kind of universal state

and

what i would add to that is that i've actually written about this not to have you go read another substack

and the the pat sock split thing where outlined like

this idea of a mecca proletariat where

the working class kind of merges with the peasantry

in the strict sense

that there's this coincidence between

being the vital source of surplus value

and also being the vital source

by which institutions replenish their social power

so the mecca proletariat is like like the peasantry it is outside of institutions

while at the same time being the source of the institution's power

because the institutions are parasitic

in relation to them

and the basic idea is that

the

meca is what i call the or the exo peasantry the meca proletarits pretty much means the same thing

gi's this idea that

um

the peasant is not just a friend

by a specific relationship to agriculture

the peasant is more specifically defined by being moulded

by some kind of socis some kind of sociality

that

you it would not be accurate to call it natural but it would be accurate to call it material that's why it's called earthly that's why it's called

from the soil

that's not because of any immutable

biological features it's more that

this is actually

the real material basis of social relations

of culture of social bonds in general

whereas in cities social relationships and social bonds

are contrived artificially

so in this strict sense the peasantry does not actually the significance at least that that it had for mao

had never went away it was just that

it

changed

like like on the one hand you still had capitalism

on the other hand

you had the rise of this like strange

deep

high high level of imperialism that is kind of entering into a

more socialistic mode of production in which

you know

the sociates organizing

social production

becomes econ it's becomes economical right institutions and the power they exert

in the organization and governance of individuals

becomes a significant factor in the twentieth century right

no one can deny that

the economy becomes more socialized

but also there's this question i think fucauld talks about this a lot right his whole thing about

that's where this this whole shift to understanding everything in terms of power

as opposed to class economic relationships that happens with

i'm very much a fan of fco yeah

yeah that's basically describing kind of like the rise of this

out you can kind of quote call it is quasi socialistic

new economy it's not based on surplus value it's not based on the production of material wealth

it's based on

control it's based on kind of

a

organ organizing

people socially it's based on

it's about biopolitics yeah the meet mediating life on a social level

and that is also something economic because it has to be reproduced

it has it has like a basis in something material other than itself just like the value form does

yeah so the question would be how do we recapture our biopolitics like at the base

like how do we return to the

like base material desires and conditions

well you i don't i don't necessarily agree with foucaul's

terminology specifically especially the biological

mm

analogy but i would definitely say yes return to the base

the base material i think that's more b tie for me

um yah

who was a big inspiration for me when it comes to this

so yeah it's it's more kind of batti like return to the base

upon whose

upon which

these institutions of civil society

have been built

right return to the repressed origins

of our society

yeah

so

in

aping

i

i want

there to be a good follow up

to the project that you're working on here

because skepticism's withholding because i feel like it should be understandable to be skeptical of the revolutionary potential of like

a large portion of

not just conservatives but liberals as well in the united states a lot of the a lot of the more politically active people

for the most part up until very recently have been suburbanites

and those aren't necessarily people that we want to rest are like revolutionary potential in

um

so when we were connected with the working class

uh you focus greatly on like the the

worts brodley

categoriz as the right

right

so i feel like that means that if there is a left populist population

or if there is a

considering that we are the most bisensus state a progressive country in the world

a

when or how

do we bring

these are politically homeless

if you will

like

leftwing people or progressive people who are working class

into the movement

well

to be charitable

maybe you're not necessarily referring to like people who have these strong ideological convictions

because those are there's not significant among the working class yh those that's only a handful of people i'm talking about like the average who may be like apathetic

but who unconsciously

would otherwise be sympathetic to a left wing populist movement

even if they're not aware of one and like the people who are just not involved in politics right now

because there basically has not been a proper

left wing populist voice to give expression to their

something that would actually attract them and draw them into a mass movement

i do agree that exists

in america

but yeah the question stands like there needs to be a co a good political theory which i try to outline that substack

like what is the left wing and what is the right wing

because left wing as a political alignment

which basically means a revolutionary stance toward

politics and

the political spectrum as a whole right the left wing just refers to those who are revolutionary with regard

to the established order of politics that's how i define it

i

wheres leftism

is this kind of

reflexive ideology of the left wing

which it's but it's not actually left wing it's like a theory of what the left wing is

so i came to my faious conclusion i think it was famous because

it was my favorite

which is that leftisarm is actually right wing

like leftism is actually right wing and it's

real alignman

it's just in the terms of consciousness and ideology it tries to approximate or capture the essence of political change and fails to

so i think

in a sense

my focus on the right probably has to do with this idea that

if you can broadly locate see if leftism and if the hegemony is right wing i agree it's right wing

it's an order right

so

you know

to me a leftist is in a sense conservative with with regard to our ancient regime right

then

so

if that's right wing then what is the actual right right

what the actual write

the dissident so called dissident right in america

they're more like partisans right

they're political partisans

then the first form of political partisanship is going to be right wing

because it's going to adopt and carry over the consciousness

of the status quo so for example

the reason why the dissident right

in america is more cancelled and more

anti status quo when actual reality more censored and so on

well that is because

they have stepped out of the current a geminy

so they're aligned outside of it

but they have

just adopted the ready made consciousness

that's already instantiated in the status quo i will i'll give you my favorite concrete example of this

for sure

it's in this sphere of

institutional sciences right

and it's this whole thing about

i q and race and all that the charles murray the bell curve and all that stuff

i was kind of fascinated by this topic

years ago

as someone who was trying to debunk it

but i was like fascinated by the sociological dynamics

and what you basically have is that

you have people who form dissident perspectives with regard to academic institutions

because they're like oh wait

academic institutions

don't believe in their covering up the relationship between race and i q

so we're going to be the crusaders of truth and we're going to be dissidents who are fighting against him now

like on a purely structural level these races

are kind of dissidents right they are kind of partisans

with regard to the academic institutions

but the form of their consciousness which

is based on i q and race and so on

' is just

like immediately and in a ready made way taken from the institutions themselves

like

i q is it's an institutional paradigm right

and

you know

the

notion of humanity according that's based on a biological reductionism

with like all were all were genetically

determine i mean that's already

that's a world view premist

by these institutions

yeah so like the consciousness

is taken from the status quo and rea and given a slight twist

right

usually exposing its contradictions of the status quo in a one sided way

so

the right wing dissidents they're partisan they're politically partisan

but their ideological consciousness

is taken from the hegeminy it's just given a slight twist

usually by exposing the uncomfortable truth

like and know you know in a way i think i said this about connya too

why can't you

he's he is a partisan right now i mean he's getting banned and censored from everything

he is positioned against the status quo right

but in terms of what he's saying he's staying stuff with he likes hitler and

he's saying all this stuff

that

the reason that's scandalous isn't because it's actually against the status quo because we look at the status quo we're funding nazis in ukraine

you know the

globalist order if you want to call it that was formed as a successor to nautism

nazism is the dirty secret of our status quo right

and conner is just kind of like immediately stepping out of it

while fully

fresh on his mind having the consciousness of the hegeminy

and just kind of

looking and giving back to it its own spitting image right

so

that's the conenenzrraum

left is um's right wing

right wingers

are

like a liined in a potentially left wing way

but lack the consciousness to make sense of their alignment

so

i acknowledge

that if i'm serious about wanting to

participate in the counter hegemonic politics that would make it left wing obviously

but there needs that i think that requires some kind of theory

i don't think there's going to be a broad left wing anymore i think

yeah

you know

a left wing is going to have to be

based on an understanding

based on probably based on class analysis and that kind of stuff of

hegeminy

because the dissident right

's just out here

they don't know what they're doing really they just kind of like

realize there's some contradiction in the status quo they expose that contradiction

they get it the but they're still dwelling in contradiction and haelian bad

sorry what is it called

the unhappy consciousness yeah which is also a critique i have for most left is

so how do you give positive expression to a revolutionary and counterhedemonic position

i think that's what communism and marxism leninism is about

because it's actually a science of that whole thing right it's a science of class struggle

and revolutionary strategy

ok

so then can i present to you the i

idea that

when

you're working with

people who have been inundated with rightist politics

or leftist politics

um

there's so many abstractions that a

a what would

i

baudriard call itu or baudriard call it the hyper real

we all live within various like levels of this superstructurer

and um

and when we're trying to pull people back down to the base ground them wake them up like say look at

what is not

what has been made to be

um

like i

one

more concrete

strategy

towards bringing away

on both leftists as well but also like rightist away from the rhetoric of like tucker carlson

the rhetoric of like the daily wire stuff like that because that that these are this is obfuscating their interests and focusing

on a culture war

like the establishment is engaging in a cultural war

that has nothing to do with

our material interests at the end of the day

but there but rightist politics and leftist politics are deeply invested in that

and they've obfuscated our ah

ability to

discern which one is more important

so how do we break people away from that

more concretely

why i don't actually think all of the rhetoric

from toco calson it's not all

it's not all

you have to

see

the under the gram skein idea of gemony which is still important

it's based on the center

so it's based it's not based on tucker carlson's rhetoric

it's based on the central coherent

let's call it a world view or or some kind of hehygemony

that

or let's call it what la claud would call it i think is probably

i think he would call that an empty signifyer right

the thing that unites all of these different signifiers

what needs to happen is there needs to be a

communist to gemany

which

in a sense repurposes

and hijacks these kind of

signifiers you're getting from right wing pundits

into a different

like

a different to gemany right which is a communist to gemany

so i think there's a lot of memes already

about this shit like comrade trump comrade tucker comrade alx jones

it's mostly to like make fun of it

right

right and point out the irony of like oh like this actually sounds communistic

but i think that should on ironically that on ironically has to be the approach

when it comes to understanding

how communist

can

understand

or articulate a revolutionary strategy in this country

so to me it's about building a working class

it's about building a working class political independence

re go a communist party

and b

building a working class a gemini

and part of that to geminy means

you don't necessarily write off all talk crossins this this person's that

you mainly just give

you triy to articulate

what about those people is

attractive to the working class because the working class likes tucker

if were marxes

we understand these different classes with different class interests

and even if we believe in false consciousness

all false consciousness really means is that

you know the working class is adopting a consciousness

contrary to its interests

but that's only possible because that false consciousness disguises itself in such a way

that it speaks to the inner necessities of the working class

so when a wor a blue collar working class person watches tk to carlson

they are situationally and materially

experiencing something entirely different

as opposed to when you know

some kind of like

professional

you know academic or something is watching tuker carlson right even if they both right wing even if they both like tuker carlson

they're different class positions

mean they're making sense of it in completely different ways

so proletarian consciousness that means

you are trying to articulate the essence of what makes tucker for example

attractive to these people

so if we take that because like

i understand

let's jump to a slightly different thing just for reference so

the groomer panic in the united states is rooted in

whether or not there is a groomer like

epidemic or whatever within the l g b t community whatever you want to call it

there is a concerted effort by people like

uh tucker carlson and the daily wire and i'm referencing those two because th the guys i can think of off the top of my head

um who

harp on this like twoenthunyre four seven now they're preying on a very real material concern that all people have right where it's like

well i don't want my kids to like get fucking groomed

i

but

there

on

to to a degree i mean they are like lying about it so

we need to

but instead of

in

i don't want to prey on the working classes like honest

material concerns

with like

empty

rhetoric just to like play into the hands of

like an opposition bourgeois

or like an establishment bourgeois

so when we turn from

h away from them and we say like okay

here's maga communism for example

and we tried to like harness that

institutional

are not institutional sorry wrong term we try to harness that revolutionary spirit or that anti establishment spirit

we need to be able to give them

like

honest to god just better people to listen to like i would much rather have people listening to you

than to like the average blue collar american listening to you

than to tucker carlson because i don't think that you're trying to

whats the the's the dimension

to that epidemic

which one has material basis and the reason there's a culture war over it is again it's this kind of

war of hegeminy specifically in relation to institutions because

there has been this profound disconnect between the

social

socially progressive quote unquote views of institutions

that govern us whether it's in public schools or college universities

which i think are

i think the public school system and the government system we have is downstream from the academic complex we have

and

it is it's a very real thing i mean

it's not

i on a personal level

i know people i mean i'm here dearborn michigan

it's a real thing that in school libraries for example

extremely sexually charged content

is being read to children

and the drag queen stuff is also like very real it's a very real thing right

so

this ha is caused a panic

but the

this panic is not necessarily groundless

and

well the emotions that they um that they're going through the feelings that they're having are grounded very materially because nobody wants their kids to be har uh harmed nobody wants their kids to be um

hurt

and but i feel like uh

like these very real material fears that people have

a

are being preyed upon to a degree like even if there was i can somewhat

to be charitable i know disants is using that issue

to get people to trust him as like of someone they can trust and then he's turning around and he's you know

he's literally a swamp monster if to put it in trump's words

he's literally an establishment shill like unequivocally

and neo con

he's just goinga end up

cert you know he's literally a representative of the ruling class

but i mean the issue has to be acknowledged is a real one

not just in terms of their feelings but what's going on

you do have this crisis this country is facing where

you know

how

how do you raise children how can children be raised what are the factors

that go into

sexual identity and the development of you know

a child's identity

throughout their life

parents

are terrified of this idea

that institutions are going to

hijack the process which they're trying to it seems like

of the development not just institutions but the internet and so on and so on

this wll come a long way since the only people who like since we lived in

like a

at least americans have come a long way from

like living in communities with

a various parents grandparents i read but i just kind of feel like amly there's been something lost when institutions

have attempted to kind of rationally and according to some contrived moral

progressive world view

um you know

morally triy and

fashion and direct to the development of human life

they have lost some kind of fundamental

wisdom

that the people understand intuitively that's passed down through generations

which they're not acknowledging they're just kind of in a brute forced way assuming that

whatever truths they've concocted in their isolated

you know

laboratories if you will

can just be imposed on ag can completely erase people's traditions and people's sensibilities and stuff

and this is the kind of clash that's happening in america right now

there is a clash between people's intuitive

sense of tradition

regularity and sensibility

and this completely contrived

kind of truth

that's not based in anything

you know material or intuitive or unconscious

but is it's based on something contrived

on the basis of a very cold formal

logic whether that logic is based on rational science or whether it's in the case of the covit crisis

it's the same thing right

the covit crisis that social crisis had created

it's the same thing as the grooming crisis right because it's it's this clash between institutions and the people

mmhmm

and a lack of harmony between them

i see

so

um you know funny enough uh coming back to the maga communism thing at heart um i have a lot of like

syndiclus predispositions that's kind of what ma what got me into this uh whole thing

um at first and there was like a definite history of spontaneity that sendeclist were in involved in that's kind of what made them a distinction

from fm

the

is it

other like communist or socialist movements happening at the time and in maga communism this is a very you called it like an impure

ideology or an impure current at one point

it's a very spontaneous thing i think you're developing something very organic

um

and i believe that that's

good

a

i

the problem that the sendeclus had right like we know why

they ended up

like capitulating or falling

is because there was no direction afterwards

like they didn't have a

they rejected like

vanguard parties they rejected

um

for the most part anyway theyd

rejected solidifying their base

as like a partisan

like revolutionary force

and i'm and i want to know like how we're supposed to go

from

a like maga communism

to like a more broad home for the hope like politically homeless working class who right now all they have to go to is the right or the left

a

and i'm and i just don't want this to burn out

you know

yeah thank you so much ang you appreciate the twenty so much man thank you

so

what i would say actually is that

i don't believe in spontaneity

i don't i'm not articulating maga communism from the perspective of spontaneo but the contrary right

my idea is that a communist institution

or a communist party as i like to call it

is calling it s institution this kind of evokes social democracy

it's a party

but it's a party with hegeminy and it's a party with a brain it's not just a body

communism part that's the brain maga part that's the body right

it's it's this basic merger formula uniting marxism

with the working class who are not already enlightened by the science of marxism

so it's that old predicament right like

it's the predicament of prometheus prometheus has to give fire steeal fire from the gods

and give it to the people give it to humanity and there's always a price right

so in a sense maga communism is an inherently

sacrificial

orientation

where communists need to sacrifice something namely their

social comfort and their sense of

you know

their sense of like safe belonging in a specific community and so on

and they need to do what communists have always done is go down to the people

just like from the russian narrodness tradition just like from the bolshevick tradition just like from the maowist tradition or

in one nine hundred twenty eight when the first collectivisation began and

young msomle youth went down to the russian countryside

to spread the good news of communism to peasants

the need to repeat that

heroic self sacrificial

act of

risking their entire world view out of belief and faith in the people so maga communism is also this kind of profound form of

forgiveness right

even if

marga

has all of these very wrong views and

misled views it's almost like saying

we forgive you we still believe in you

and we're going to stick by you it's there's a quote from shi jin ping

that i really i very much appreciate and i want to kind of read it

again

if i can find the exact you hear it is perfect right

so the quote from she is no matter how correct our policies are

if the people don't understand they can't be realized

you must first follow the people

if the people jump into a firepit

you also jump with them

if you don't the party people relationship would be disconnected

so right now the people are maga

and they're jumping into the maga fire pit

and maga communism means we must jump in that pit

with them

and i think that's uh

to me that's just

an extremely orthodox marxist leninist

spirit

ya um and i'm uh

i'm not a marxist linist i'm just a i tend to just

define myself as like a marxist um

the

but from the marxist leninist a so much jan are appreciate you so much man sorry

theo you're ok

yeah

i

i think that

when

we

look towards expanding the body

right

um

as maga dies out becae and if all you have left is the brain communism

and the body is this amorphous

a

not very directed or

just

like it much of our base is riddled with like the american like political apathy right

um

i want to

make sure that that doesn't happen so the body for this movement moving forward

how do we expand out from here

like i think a brain always implies a body

it's just that the brain is not always aware

of what its body is

so

if maga dissolves there will still be see maga

history never really just dissolves

um but straps kind of a bousgeuoi view right

history changes and it transforms emphasis on the transform

right

right

and it's the job of marxist to

remember that historical succession and not forget

the flame

so wherever maga goes it's going somewhere and we need to be there

with it wherever it goes

when i say maga i'm not arbitrarily referring to whatever trump

decides to do politically

i'm referring to you're talking about the conception you outlined in the subset i'm talking about the essence of the movement which is count the counter heagemonic politics of the maga movement

and that has bounced around across american history

you know you had

you had you know you had bernie in twenty fifteen

you had

um

i mean

you had the the the

ro ron paul i don't know you probably wouldn't agree with that but the ron paul thing

in the two thousands against george w bush

that libertarian movement that was a really big thing

militia movement the anti but anti iraq war movement

you had to occupied wall street that was part of it

you have all sors you have these

yeah it's taken different forms yeah yeah

yeah yes for artisan politics

i mean it's never become partisan politics until maga because before then it was not really political

but it was

some kind of counterhdemonic space that did exist

and that space will always exist 'll just take new forms

yeah um let's

talk about what and i agree with you there

i want to talk about one more thing because i don't want to take up too much time from your stream

um

but i want to go all the way back to the very beginning of the substack

a

were

you outline the left or

like

you outlined the left being outflanked

and you mentioned this literally at the very beginning talking about rum paul you reminded me of this

so

for example

you talk about unconditional anti interventionism

like being a thing that the right

mam has talked about before

uh like ron paul or and it's not an uncommon sentiment you can see this in literally like every

a republican representative most of them even a lot of the neo cons have had a sentiments about

like uh isolationism or anti interventionism or whatever

um i don't think that this is like a uniquely left wing thing like unless you're talking about the early

earliest twentieth century which wasn't even necessarily the case when you talk about like the u s s r or

china

i don't think that the left gets out

flaned

by stuff like

uh by positions like that i think it's been a uniquely right wing tradition to be like h

into anti interventionism into

um

isolationism and pulling back from that

a

and

i'm an internationalist

i don't think that the

like in this specific

context that you're bringing up

am

i don't

think that

like the left wing or in this case leftist

get outflanked by the right

on this topic i think it's a uniquely

like right wing what if tradition're talking about if

well if the left is defined by being

revolutionary or somehow opposing

the political order

the political order that we have rests upon imperialism

and when the right opposes interventionism they are opposing the policy of imperialism they are imposing

things that are ruling class find necessary

to preserve the system of imperialism

or

you know express their class interest the ruling class and it's the right that's getting in their way

so

also i'm not sure what internationalism could mean

except

a principled form of

anti imperialism which is unconditional anti interventionism because

how

i mean surely you don't believe american unipolar or unipolar ha geminy

represents some kind of internationalist common will

h no i'm not a globalist i try to make the distinction between the two when i say i

like like i don't believe in anti interventionism i'm anti imperialism i think that if the united states just like how the u s s r in china like moved forward i think if there is a

sufficient

desire or a need

to reason if you will

to to

support

the

affairs and other countries 's a line but i surely you don't mean under the current system like you wouldn't know you know

a decision by biden or the current u s government to intervene in another country

even if i did agree with like the single instance of the united states doing x or y thing or like a country in the e u doing x or y like piece of interventionism even if i did think that that was a good thing i would never side with them

i

eventually so so

and this so what you would be referring to is a hypothetical scenario of a completely different government a completely different system

i mean that's fine but it's still hypothetical so when the here and now

the right is unconditionally anti interventionist with regard to our current state

now whether they would be unconditionally anti interventionist

for a different type of state

based on some like ideological principles i mean who knows right but

materials analysis says that ideology is downstream for material reality and not the reverse

ok

um

i think that clears up

but a lot of it

i think the

final

thing

that i went because i was wondering how this was going to go down

a

the

a lot of the language that you use in your substack uh obviously is incredibly bombastic but there's some vagueness in certain areas like whenever i was asking about the deeper order of like rural life or what notot

that it like

i was worried that there was

a like

blood and soil sentiment at one point h and i'm glad that you cleared that up pretty early on

i think a lot of people do have misconceptions of you and your content

um

i don't necessarily agree that

maga communism was the like best step or is the only vector for the working class at the moment to represent itself

but i do think that

a friend of mine said who was defending the maga communism like said

give us the right to fail

and that's where my skepticism sits right i want to see where this goes

and i appreciate the work that you put into this

uh

thank you for having me on

yeah ok thank you

yeah i like that give me the right to fail

i i agree with that if this smaller e communism still fails

let's fail and learn from it

i think that's better than the current course of action i mean i don't want to be

in leftist communities anymore like

sit there let's go out and

let's fail if we have to fail we will

no problem we'll learn

and we'll get better

right

but

you know i want to i want to address something

because actually i do have stuff to talk about in this stream

i guess the debate was perfect for the stream topic

but

you know in terms of why people dislike me

i think a lot of it

especially when it comes to leftists like

but looking at face value

all the discourse aside

right

at face value like what i say isn't really bad right

it's not really bad

like when i rationally spell out

my world view

and my theo theoretical beliefs in my ideology it's not really bad

but the problem is my aesthetic and my practice

and and what do i mean by that

so for example

why did i originally get cancelled by red lips it's because i constantly use the word retard it's because i speak in a way

that has complete callous disregard for the aesthetic

sensibilities of leftists

and also the way i behave in acts

betrays something

i have a very like real realistic world view where it's like

i don't have any regard for virtue signalling or

respecting the rituals of the left anything like that

and people see me i'm so missogynistic

and you want to ask the question am i misogynistic

on a personal level

yeah i am

on a political level like i'm not really particularly interested in

pursuing a politics that harms women

what i'm real is fuck about the facts

that

like

you know

sometimes i find women retarded

on a personal level right i'm real as fuck about this shit

and

it' as it could also apply to racism

even though i'm not really a racist it's like

you could be

politically against racism on a political level

but then like on a personal level you can be super racist

and a lot of people think that's extremely

hypocritical

and it's not

it's not hypocritical at all it's just like

you have to realize there's a discontinuity between

the way in which you participate in politics

and how you exp likew what you actually

what your sense of the world actually is on a personal level

and that's not hypocrisy that is like an objective

like that's an objective thing

right

yeah there is a public private distinction and that's not hypocritical

a lot of people are like ohas how can you be so religious

or how can you profess such a deep belief

in religion in respect and reverence for religion

and yet you are like out here fucking all these random bitches and shit

and you're violating the perscriptions of islam and so on and so on

and to that i would say it's like well there's a difference between

the appreciation i have for religion

on one level

right

and

how i understand the wisdom

or what i say the lack of understanding of the wisdom of the religion

like i have the faith that there is a wisdom to these religious prescriptions like hat

don't have premarital sex right

and i do think there's a wisdom to that

and every time i do it i get closer to understanding that wisdom

but i keep doing it

right i keep fucking doing it

because at the end of the day

what's going to guide me in this world is just my sense of being here in the world

i respect the people who have devoted themselves

to religion and to the study of religion

those people are not really in the world though

like parts like i'm here in the hell

i'm here participating

in the evil of the world it's almost like what she said

when the people go into a firepit i will go with them

so as long as the people are here

living this normal american way of life i'll be here with them right

i will

indulge

in

temptation and sin

because i am not above

the people

simple as that

if they're going to hell i'm going to hell to

and i think there's a reason for this shit beyond

just that people are bad i think

we have to explore why do demons tempt us what is so damp tempting

about the demons and how they draws

to do sinful things

i think i want to learn these things and

i don't believe hell fire

i don't believe hell is just some place

it's just stagnant and idle and it's just sitting there

and you're just going to go to hell one day

and then

it's just there right

i believe hell fire is a living thing

that is here on earth

you can feel that fire

and you can get close to that fire

you can experience and channel that fire

the fire of hell

because at the end of the day

my interpretation of what hell is

hell is

where we lach

faith

right

hell is like

if you want know what hell is i'll give you hell

i'm going to give you help by talking to you about

one

the founding story of

of h

mecca

right

i i think i might be butchering it but the story of hagar sorry the story of ishmael and hagar right

abraham

his wife sarah

was jealous of his concubine hagar

who had ishmael as the origin of the arabs

and haygar was expelled out into the desert

right

and hagar was searching through the desert

and was praying and praying and praying for mercy

and then

she prayed for water something like that and then water came

right so she drank the water

she survived her son survived

ere go the origin of the arabs right so was a miracle a miracle occurred

that saved her life

and to me

i think hell

refers to

this place

where

the miracle doesn't happen

if you want to you want to ask me what hell is i think hell is like las vegas

where

people are really hoping for a miracle are really hoping for a miracle when they gamble

and then they lose everything

and

they don't get their fucky miracle they lose everything they own

and

you know

that's hell

i think that's what hell actually is

i think light came from fire

right in some sense

in the thermal veins of the earth if you want to do science nerg

whether you believe in that or not it's immaterial

there's something

creative about fire

right

and i think hell fire

it's just referring to this chaos of creation

that you're submitted to

to remind you maybe and humble you to the fact

that you should have been grateful

and you should have hum

um

humbled yourself

to this incredible miraculous act of mercy

by god

that gave us life

amidst all this fucking chaos

and all this contingency and all this

apparent randomness this i mean s nature such a the cosmo such a harsh fucking place

and that out of this emerges life right

and

there's something about that that proves

there's meaning in the falkon world

right there's something about that that proves there's meaning here

and i think fire is just this

chaotic

absence of the confirmation of meaning

that's my interpretation

and

since i'm a

heathen

and a hereity

and i think in a theological society i should probably be headed right but until then

i

i interpret how

as something that's here

so why do we say has why do you sin

because i think

i want to

bathe and hell fire a little bit

just to temper my sense of faith and temper my understanding of it

because i think

we're all burning in hell and away

already

her honor

and it's an

see people can't understand it because they have such like a strick

understanding of

observance versus hypocrisy

so that they see me say something and they're like oh you're such a hypocrite

because you don't actually believe what you say because you're not

walking the walk

like as if i'm too

bound by the gravity of temptation

and i'm not tough enough

to just be like a hardcore

muslim kind of guy i could be a hard coore muslim sure

i genuinely don't believe in that because i feel like

i don't want to just go to heaven and then just be like yah fuck the world i'll just go to heaven all this this evil society

give my middle finger to it i'm going to heaven

i'm going to go get my seventy two virgins everyone else can go burn and hell

i believe that

the meaning of religion the meaning of spirituality is here on earth

i believe it's here on earth

so

i will be here

right

and i'm see

i am not going to repress my desires

i'm not going to repress my desires

i like big booty bitches

if i

let me tell you this

if i resigned myself

personally right now in this stage of my life to religion

i'm not pure enough

if i was out here

repressing my love for big boody bushes

in the name of religious observance

i fee i would feel like a hypocrite

because i would be like well i actually

want big booty bitches

i'm just not doing it

to prove that i can have the discipline

because i want to go to heaven

but i don't actually care about heaven or hell in the afterlife

again i'm a i'm i'm like a fucked up

heretic i'm not claiming to represent any official religion at all

i'm just like speaking from my skizo self

in doing so

you know i don't care about

what happens after i die i just don't

i don't give a fuck

i care about here on earth

that's what i care about

i care about what happens here on earth

so since i care about what happens here on earth

m

i'm not going to do not i'm not going to do things to go to heaven

i'm going to do things

to

make heaven real on earth

and i don't mean that in the sense of a utopia i mean that in the sense of like

i think paradise is here

when i say here i mean it's in our heart it's in our soul

the paradise is already here that's what i believe

and hell is already here

elpire is already here

and

yeah you know what there's something very darmaic about what i'm saying or darmic about what i'm saying there's something very darmic about what i'm saying

and i think that speaks to an interesting interaction

that i think

should happen between islam and dharma

similar to the relationship between

judaism and greek

the greek philosophy or the greek realm

i think that is an interesting encounter that should happen

yeah

yeah it's very darmic what i'm saying very much

buddhist and all that kind of shit

what on

yeah i believe in the world here here and now

and

well it's not it's not just that i believe in the world here and now it's more so that

i believe that the world here and now is the only place

where

since i'm already here like

this is where it matters

this is where you prove yourself this is where you prove the truth

right

a lot of times like

people don't understand like has how can you say i'm a satanist and i'm fucking evil

when you are out here fucking big booty bithes

and then

i will qualify that

by saying

one

thank you so much for robbie prec wt to go i jes m h

the

i mean maybe

maybe

thanks so much for the dono miss e j and other dono think you are both just non linear omniscient perspectives on what we experience as a posteriory experience

that perspective is tied to the physical qualities of light

that i'm going to admit i don't understand what you said

i do not understand it

um

sorry but thank you so much for the don't know

because i really appreciate donnors right now you know i've kind of noticed something

about you tube

reaything about immortality man going beyond man and the end of mankind

brisom i'm going to be in the v c to debate about this because i have been informed

that there's a lot of heresy going on

so i'll be after stream

but i think trans humanism is bolsted

complete bolstt

but anyway what i was trying to say is that

people were like has why are you

m

how can you call people saytanic and evil

when you like you know you don't pray

you fugk big boody bushes

you're a fucking hypocrite you don't follow the religious prescriptions

and then what i would say is that like i don't define evil on the basis of whether an individual follows abstract prescriptions i defined on the basis of

whether you reproduce evil objectively

in the form of how you treat other beings and other human beings like

is your relation to the sociist the substance of evil

i'm going to call you focking evil then

if you're out here

reproducing the substance of

premarital sex

by

giving

like

making it a social phenomenon

like m t we did right

that is fucking evil

now i'm just an individual who's a victim of m t v s evil cause i'm i'm in this i'm born here this is

my world right

but i am not the source of the evil

thank you w levin i'm not the source of the evil

i'm just participating in it

then you could be ok then has according to you

visiting buying prostitutes is not evil

and then i would say

no i think it is evil

because you we have already arrived on some level

to a common social understanding

that this is an evil thing

to do right

and why it's evil and so on and so on like you this is a new avant garde movement to normalize prostitution

and by engaging in it

you are doing something to your senses that's abnormal right

so you're fucking evil right

in a sense

you can repent for it there's forgiveness for everyone

i've had to repent for evil in the past

'm saying i'm above anyone

but that's what makes something like that evil

but like

in terms of

sin

in terms of engaging in sin more generally like

you know i don't i

i don't think

if you're a muslim and you dream

that's not quite the same like let me give you an example this right

if you lie about someone

that is infinitely more evil

then if you just drink alcohol

or you eat pork

you drink alcohol and you eat pork you might damage your brain

you might damage yourself in some kind of fucking way

and woe unto those who are selling alcohol

or not selling alcohol woe unto those who popularized alcohol

woe unto those who have popularized swine

and you can blame them right

but just drinking alcohol eating pork that's not really on the same fucking level

is lying about another fuck and human being and

doing something evil

in the realm of humanity

that's not the same fucking thing

there has been psychopaths in my community

in the past

who like

nons stop spread a bunch of fucking lies about me did all this crazy disgusting

slimy disgusting shit

and then when i called him out were like you know this is

so against islam what you're fucking doing how can you be a moslem and lie like this and they' like oh

how can you

follow islam

while not praying five times a day we're on the same fucking level no we're not

me praying five times that's between me and god what you're doing

you are violating

you are doing something evil you are recreating the substance of evil

which is based on the relation of man to man

you are you are at the root of evil

right

that's fucking evil

what you're doing

you are doing something substantively evil something

imminently

unconscionable

something imminently evil deceptive

it's literally a lie it's deception

right

how can you fucking stomach it in your fucking heart to do something like that

to be a fucking liar right

for example

or you know to to to

to kill a baby or some shit

throw a baby off a cliff

or some evil th like i don't know running someone over some i don't fucking no right some evil shit right

that's on a different level ta you bee the day of judgment is the day you see your own life from god's perspective for eternity

so what you do here and now really matters so i know it does and the holy books made it clear that the here and now is what matters like what you do here

is the test

love your soul and what you arm

um

but it's like evil

is not

evil is not when you violate some abstract precept

evil is

when you do something

that

like effaces the very foundation and basis

of associus

i think that's what fuk and that's what that's how i would define evil right

it's like it's you do something that if faces what it means to be a human being

which is the highest form of creation

like when you create a social relationship

on the basis of a lie

that is the most evil fucking thing you can do

is create an order

of hue of power

of whatever on the basis of a lie that is fucking evil

right

does a human need to be present to make a judgement for what is evil

or does evil occur without the existence of a human

well

i think a human needs to engage in an act of evil

but the evil is there whether someone observes it or not

youre you're doing something that betrays the human heart itself it's just something unconscionable and disgusting

a lot of people think i'm not morally consistent

that's not true i am you just don't understand my world view or my aesthetics

but has

how can you be a communist

to

you know

because i'm a real mother fucker that's why right just like how

you didn't read karl marx

before you decided that you need to fucking drink water

it's the same shit

is this

you need to get your house in order

yourfreudan house in order

before you sit here and talk about ideological principles

cause a lot of you mother fuckers are motivated

by really pathological shit

like envy for example or some kind of mommy issues or daddy issues

or some fucked up problem you had in your life

where you adopted communism as a cope

you know le let's just be real i want to kind of be real about something

does politics actually matter

doesn't just relationships matter and like when your girlfriend broke your heart in high school

isn't that actually all that fucking matters why does politics even fucking matter right

politics is just like abstract

who are you to

care about something so abstract

when you cannot even reckon

with this existential quest to find

fulfillment and belonging

and recognition

from another human being right

that's why women don't give a fuck about politics

and all they care about is relationships and shit

it's not actually because they're inferior

um that would be because of um

you know like

that would be because of like

you know that

they falk in

voted for hillary clinton that would be an example of inferiority

but

the reason women mostly

don't give a shit about politics and only care about like

personal relationships

because it's because like it's the same thing

in a way right

in a personal relationship you are searching for meaning

of your own soul

in relation to another

whereas in politics

you are searching for meaning in the big other with a capital o

the other of society the other of the world the other of countries the other of statehood

the other of the sociates right

well what is a state what is associates what is a fucking society what is a fucking country

isn't that just an abstraction

isn't another human being the only real thing

that's

mostly how women see the world

just they don't really recognize the abstraction it's almost like what do you mean

they're like

youy're like

like they're like they're out here and they're like

the ottoman empire

world war one world war two the cold war

maga communism

what about having a small dick

why don't you stop having a small diate

whatfore you fuckin care about

all that shit

that's actually how they see the world right

it's like

it's like what right do you have

what right do you have

to care about like all these vast things

when you have not even got your house in order

in terms of how you

define yourself

as a human being

in relation to a concrete other right

and then me it's like i get away

with a lot because

you guys are my concrete other right is you know even though

we're going through a rough patch right now if i'm being honest

infrared is going through a pretty rough patch right now

no i still have an audience i still have

very generous

donators

who are keeping the stream afloat clap for the donators guys clap for the donators

the it's the unsung heroes right

but

that's a concrete example of me

putting myself out there in the world

and then getting something back that

kind of confirms

what i put out as

validated

write in some kind of way

but if you don't have that and ninety nine percent of people don't have that

you know

how can you talk about politics if you're not getting your own fucking house in order right

and that's a very difficult

thing to

like you got you gotta sometimes ask right

this happened when i had my first

artbreak

which was from high school

and it was basically something along the lines of

do i care about politics

or is this just a coult

for like me being bitter

and sad

and an insult

toward women

right

and

that's what people on twitter are like oh hands you're just like an insult it's like

they don't know how

like

stupid that statement is

because

o

i spent many years trying to purify

my conviction

and separated

from my personal feelings like i that i i was like a dharmic monk

trying to purify my heart

to like get to the essence of what does it mean to actually be devoted

to the idea

as opposed to using the idea as a way to cope

for your personal heartbreak or your personal ego

or your personal problems and all that kind of fucking shit

and the way i kind of dealt with it was that like

i created a

a very harsh division between the two like

commmunism doesn't care about your fucking feelings

doesn't care about your fucking

your sob story doesn't care that you're fucking lonely doesn't care that your girlfriend broke your heart

doesn't care about all this dumb shit you fucking go through

doesn't it's actually

completely indifferent to all that it's total indifference

now once you establish that indifference k

once you establish the indifference

of the idea

to your personal story and your personal life

and it takes a lot of discipline to do that by the way

right

but once you do that

you can discover something really beautiful

because you can discover

that even when

this thing this idea is indifferent toward you personally

it still has its own logic it still has its own consistency

its own poetical beauty

right there's something poetically beautiful about it

and meaningful it's meaning there

right

and then your problem

i mean your problem may still be a problem but now you can have faith now you can be like

ok

i have this problem

and

my problem is nothing

compared to this reality

and also

my problem is not necessary it's not actually what's necessary the realm of necessity

is outside of me

it's not here

so in a way

if you ask was a has why did you not become an insul

i mean i lost my virginity at seventeen but i don't think insl is defined by

whether you've had sex

i think it's like defined by like

do you like

have like a politics of resentment

based on your personal faelings

and in high school i like had my heart broken and shit

and it did make me very very sad

and it did

it did make me likelook very

black pilled

but never like messa i'm assageynistic now right not back then

i was still very young

and

the question you have to ask yourself is

like

why i didn't go down that path

was because

i decided

i felt like there was something inauthentic

and ingenuine

about channelling your personal problem

into politics

like if you were born

if you're born

like but ugly

it's an ugly duckling

and you use politics as a cope for that i find that in authentic

because the site

first get your shit in order in terms of your ugliness then you can start talking about politics

but you're not ugly because of politics you're ugly because you're fucking ugly

and

the reason i'm a misogynist today

because i feel like so many women who are political

don't understand that

you're not

miserable

because of the political system we live in

you're not miserable

because of

society

you're not miserable because of capitalism

you're just ugly and

you should settle for a

average man because you're not anything special

like some fat three hundred pound blue hair whatever feminist

is out here complaining about capitalism and society and as i actually

the problem is you

not society you're the problem

you should just blame yourself right

and i feel like

the reason i came on to the scene

so belligerent and so cruel

i spent years

like mastering the discipline

of disentangling my devotion to the idea of what communism is

from

my personal story and my personal life

which i understood was totally separate like my personal life

buhu beach right

nobody cares

communism that's out there that

that's not going to fulfill you in any kind of fucking way

that's not going to make you personally happy in any kind of fucking way

you need to devote yourself to an external

truth external beauty and external meaningfulness right

and

don't raify

your personal grievances

into the realm of external necessity

because it's not

that's what insuls do insuls reify the personal grievances they have

into like some necessary truth out there in the world

big fok a mistake right

big fucking mistake

i

because look if you

that's what women do

right that's why women should not be involved in all six thank you carny appreciate you

appreciate you

carney goose goo we sada appreciate it

but as i was saying

you know this is such an interesting thing i'm talking about right now

it's such a shame

all the people were missing

but i've noticed on all live streams i've looked at

everybody's down in terms of use everyone is fucking down i

can you guys name anyone who's like super successful right now

there's like nobody right i couldn't even imagine it actually because the atmosphere we have

but whatever whatever talk i could be wrong about that too by the way it's just something i've observed

but anyway i

is jimmy e been really successful right now

m

yeah i don't know yeah it's it seems like it's like mainly yeah i know redacteds doing good

you're right about that

redacted has

conkyia' is banned from everything though that's what i'm trying to say

he's like banned from everything

but i

the reason i came to online so belligerent so fucking upset

it's like so many of these people they're just using politics

as a way

to feel happier

or have a cote about their own personal fucking problems thank you so much urban savs appreciate you a ton

and it's like to me it's

that's not the case like

i believe in something very cold and harsh about communism it doesn't have any regard

for your personal happiness

notone at all you have to be totally selfless

and i

i do not see that virtue in any communist in america i see these people as just trying to cope

for like i live in berklyn and i want to be richer than i am i don't do a fuck bitch this is a cold world

you're not entitled to anything

you know i am a fucking

ultra right wing libertarian pull yourself up by the fuck and bootstraps when it comes to personal advice

don't fucking use politics as a cope

for the fucking fact

that you're a lazy loser

a

millennial

by the way

who

blames capitalism

for the fact that there aref they found themselves in a shit situation

guess what ever you people find themselves you know there's people who are born with no legs imagine being born with no legs

imagine it losing your legs that's a shitty situation

you can't blame capitalism for that

you have to blame some random shit right

imagine you get can't imagine

your loved one gets cancer and dies

you going to blame capitalism

you need to come to terms with the fact

that there is something cold about

being and the world

in regards to us

right

you're in a relationship

you can enter a relationship with someone

who is a piece of shit

and completely disappoints you

and completely whatever

you know

tough shit

the reason i'm so muslim isn't because i'm out here pretending that i follow all the prescriptions because i just

i love this idea of

god the merciful i love this idea that

as much as that horrible shit

would you just have to accept

happens

isn't it a fucking miracle that there's something rather than nothing it's a fucking miracle that we're here

right now

that's a miracle right that is an act of mercy

because the default is the chaos of the cosmos

the default state

is this cosmic chaos

right

burning stars and all this fucked up shit that's happening

that's the default state

and here we are

that's a fucking miracle

right

even earth is such a scary fucking place

here we are

that's a fucking miracle right

that's a beautiful beautiful thing

that is an act of mercy by god upon us that we need to be eternally grateful for

because out here

creation is a wild thing thanks so much paperwork its capitalism's fault my baris to messed up my tridle chatsor espresso order yettas polish

thank you so much paperw

yeah i mean know it's capitalism's fault

that you know i i

yeah it's it's capitalism's fuck and fault that you know

i don't know how to fucking make choices as an adult

it's like the basic

that's like the basic cote

of your average

anti capitalist whatever leftist

right

but it's like why does there ex why does suffering exist in the world

why does all that why does that exist well

you should be grateful there's meaning in the first place

because that is meaningless

when someone gets cancer and dies

in some sense it's meaningless

but they're still meaning

meaning delves into its origins often

well actually it's not meaningless because we have the power through knowledge

to harness an understanding of why it happens

so when we through some kind of medical technology

not necessarily even modern medical technology which is some kind of medical means

discover the causes of cancer and stuff

we are getting close

to the beauty of

you know the meaning of creation

and that's a great thing

right

it' a beautiful thing

actually

and i think that's like the chinese perspective too like

especially when kovt came around the chinese perspective was like ok

why is this virus here

we don't know what is the meaning of people dying from this fucking virus randomly they're like

we don't know but

we're going to fight it

you know we're going to fight this virus

and survive

that's such a beautiful thing

when they first had the lockdown in the

move on

you know

you're like we're going to fight

it's not even a fighting another person

it's fighting some meaningless thing from nature

supposedly right

according to what we have to say on you tube

according to its mandated

the mandated truth on youtube right

but um

yeah

i just think

i'm i'm throwing gems man i'm givin you guys gems you guys are fuckin lucky

that you get to watch these streams

because

damn

yeah this is something three thousand people should be listening to right

but

you guys are just a lucky three hundred

the lucky three hundred spartans

because i think this is important stuff right i think it's really important stuff

that i'm telling you

you know

is anything that happens meaningless no everything has meaning

so we don't always understand that meaning right

but if we understand there is meaning

right

you need to have faith in that

that's what i believe

so if there's things you don't understand the meaning of it

still havef faith the still meaning

still have faith in the meaning itself

and that meaning is god that's what i think god is

right

it's my understanding at least

in any case

that's i think that's why it's so hard for me to traverse

the

like this ideological sphere

i'm actually going to show you guys some content pretty soon

after i go on this rant you're going to be shown some content

and i'm not ending the stream any time soon because well

i need to make more money but no it's not it's not prom right no obligation i'm just saying

i'm going to be streaming longer because that

not with any entire expectation of entitlement so don't worry i'm just

just you know

just in case i can you know

but also because i have more contents to show you

but i

look

why won't you be a professor you're good at explaining things

i feel it'd be wasted as a professor becuse i shouldn't i tell this to the internet and not a classroom of thirty people

you know who won't even give a fuck anyway

so i would be a professor if i could talk to the internet

you know it's sad we have

four hundred likes and three hundred viewers

that means people just stopped

dropped a light and left

pretty sad

re said

but in any case

me continue what i was saying

i've got one of the reasons it's so hard to navigate

the political

ah sphere

for me on the internet the ideological spheres is like there's two realities

there's this external reality of

social meaning which is completely external

and then there's this like

extremely incestuous

extremely proximate way people have attached

ideology

as an encyclopaedia of personal grievances

and emotional traumas thank you so much maximilian so like leftism is based on like shit like ah ah my god do you use uberites do you use doordash oh my god you're a funcky piece of shit you remind me of the time where i was bullied for being ugly and d and it's just this extremely personal thing that has nothing to do with the external

external truth

of the idea right

oh you shout

what of

only bucking shills are infinitely possible but the

holy shit

is jennifer oil prince

princess

jennifer thank you so much

the ceo of infrared

thank you so much it's the jennifer deep state

oh my god

oh my focking god

holy sit

wheres the fuck did that come from jennifer thank you so much

will no train

clya thank you maan

oh my god jennifer

thank you so much clyth appreciate you man

ah man you know what

ah

i am in debt to jennifer right if jennifer if you ever need a favor

like if you ever need me to knock on someone's door

and say hello to them

like

i am literally like

come down

ok

i'll be a mercenary i don't give a fuck

ight

you know what i mean

it's be it's like it's like be

yeah

holy shit jennifer thank you so much i am st you i can't even put into words how grateful i am

for that

i am like extremely extremely grateful

you have no i i can't even put the appreciation into words

but you you motivate me to just do better and be better put on more videos put better content out there

and reward you guys with better

stuff

and better

content right

and that's what i'm going to do and

you know you know i was saying some shit

like oh i'm misogynistic that doesn't apply to jennifer that does not apply to jennifer at all

jennifer is

a queen

and

she is one of the few exceptions

on planet earth of my misogyny

she has been an o g in this community

from the beginning

from the beginning o g

right

of the community

and never started drama ever

never started any drama

you know how much men starded drama

ninety nine percent of the drama starters were met

ok

so

and the problem the troublemakers but it thank you so much jan aar

appreciate you so much ma'am

m

jennifer is always just chilled you know always has been chill

and

every time she's in the chat it's just such a pleasant

presence for the community

the old infrared days were wild yeah

yeah

ah maen

i feel pretty bad

i just

you know what else i feel bad about the fact that all of it's going to have to go to pokey main

that's just the worst part because

look guys one day she'll notice me

one day pokemin

will notice me

and

you know i gotta do what i gota do

i gotta do what i gotta do guys

i've been at it for a few years

i'm living in my mom's basement because i'm bankrupt and in debt because i gave all my money to poke main

and all the money you guys give me has to go to one place right

and

a just

one day she'll notice me oky one day

she will appreciate me and

she will say my name

she's never said my name on stream

and she has also filed a financial restraining order against me

and she basically said that

i need to stop sending her money and that she' you know aparently she's really like upset

thank you tristan

but she's just

in a mood you know she's

she's just in a bad mood it's just one of the things she does in our relationship

thank you so much christen bs you know in all seriousness thank you so much

fly

christan

and especially jennifer thank you so much

i am very very much

speechless

i'm just i don't know what else to say i'm actually just speechless

thank you so much

i the i really appreciate it

but on

you have a power hourg in a minute what

uh yeah

no we actually have

a good amount of women in the community is just that

a lot of them are not active

chatters

and

yeah but like am i actually mssagynistic

only on an extremely personal level like

but not in a not in reality just like

just in relationships you know

that's what i really mean

but

yeah

and i hope women are missandrast as well because

i just

yh i would feel bad if women didn't hate men

to

because i don't feel like an asshole

but anyway

um

russian missile in what

oh you live in south africa okay i see

um anyway in any case guys

what i was getting at

in the political realm

it's really hard to navigate because i'm always speaking to languages i'm speaking the language of

collective psychological resentments and like pathological problems that are channeled through politics

and then the purity of the external

like

logos of communism right

this is social thing that unites us

as just completely indifferent

to us on a personal level

or at least is not

cannot

rams

a son of

personally we can't use it

as are excuse to hide behind

instead of being like real human beings right

i always maintain that i've always maintained that separation it's almost like i'm calvinistic in a way right

i'm like a calvinist

protestant nordic

like cold mother fucker that's basically saying like n

it's a world of total depravity and there's no salvation

except

thrue

grace

and you know

weer would fate this fate

and whatever bad or good that happens to you is what god wanted and you can't bitch about it or you hide behind religion

that's why you got to work and have the protestant work ethic

and in a sense i have that german mentality there's something jerk see

there's something very german

about hayes

it's because i'm half german because my name is adam to here and my mother is a cia

german woman

and i'm german right

and um

but

no and in reality there is something very german about me

general

s i'm a marxist and

i'm a hganlian

and i'm a german idealist

and you know

that is german right

all that stuff comes from germany

anyway guys

by the way i to say something there's like

or germans i like

that i've met

there for some reason germans hate me

that's fine

um

and i feel like if i was in germany people would just like not like me

but i don't know maybe they would like me i can't tell

i have not had good experiences

with

well

germans

i just haven't

you know i just feel like we don't vibe that well

but it's ok i don't hate them

but i do have the right to make fun of them

whenever i want

anway guys i want to show you some stuff

i want to show you

some stuff

where the fork is it

because if i don't find it fast

i am going to

oh i want to show you this thing about the asiatic motor production

this is really cool

i the mo se an economist

he's basically saying the same shit i said on twitter

that got me you know turned

into a ridiculous absurd person

it's the same shit that i said

originally

apparently you know i got made fun of ford and all this fucking stuff

yeah we're going to need new a mots and shit i'm going to add a mots pretty soon

don't worry about that

but we're going to watch this thing about the asiatic motor production

before we do that

before me is that

ah you are sleeping on armenia armenia can be one of the keys you're missing and you can pull on the revolutionary essence in history

they rek my views on armenia

oky

now i threw the turks a bone

when i went on my rant

diplomatically ceasing to recognize greece as a country

i ceased to give diplomatic recognition to greece

i went on this huge anti grease ranp

and the turks the turkish lobby of infrared love that right

but as in all things there must be balance

and i love armenia and i love armenians and i have never

capped about that

the armenians i have met

are so fucking cool

and i vibed with them a lot

i love armenian food

i love armenians i just do

and there's j s i don't know what it is right

and i think it's because i look armenian

because i did this thing

on tick tok

that allows me

to

i did this thing

that allows me to

on ticktok it like it's a soviet police race chart

and it tells me what race i are

right

base

and where the fuck

i don't know what this shit is templates

i don't know how to do it but

it's the soviet police race chart

like all the different ethnicities and there's this

ap on tick tok

this filter

that lets you see which one you are according to tick sox algorithm

or according to sicktox ai recognition

and tik tog said that i was armenian

and that means something

ok

according to tiktok i am armenian

and you know what it makes sense

because i look armenian i do look armenian

i look like a mountainous caucasus

person

from the rugged caucases mountains of

armenia because i am a north

western

iranian

that's really what it is northwst iran

that's really the source of people who look like me a lot of people are like has

why do you have red hair are you german no

north west iran and i guarantee if i took the twenty three in me

it would say north west iran

the red hair this whole look

soe you look at my face look at my face

i a have a very harsh

distinguished look

right

this is

iranic this is northwest iran

and people who look like me armenians georgians

iranians afghans

it's a rugged

look

ok

it's a rug people from the balkons a lot of slavs

you like has you look russian

northwest iran is the source of a lot of the russian

a you know a lot of the russian makeup is from there

so that is why it's iranic it's o'm not slavic a lot of slavs

the origin of the slavs

iran

did you know that

at least partially

so the whole balcons basically the balcons

is from ya like the scythians in the north

western iranians that's the whole balkans

and i'm part of that shit so congratus that's why i look serbian and russian and i look like i'm yugoslavian

thank you so much you may have aler thought of this

but why don't you debate more libertarians and trump supporters

people you could maybe come to it because most of my debate opponents

have historically

come to me

and i have to seek those ones out

and it's like

you know i want you know what i want to debate

and i don't know how i can set this up i'm going to email him

i want to debate james lindsey

on marxism

and i want to do it in person and i want it to be an event

and i want to make it about mager

communism

madam

the communism

i want to debate james lindsay about marxism

and he's not a stupid guy i don't think he is

i think he's kind of smart actually i've read some of his stuff

and

he's kind of smart

he's a worthy opponent i will debate him i want to debate him

james lindsay i'm going to email him or something

i don't know i'll reach out to him

i will email him

and i want to bebait him

in person

if i can do it in person we'll do it online but i will fly out we could make it an event

and i want to debate it

i want to do it

maybe we can ah

have it through modern day debate

maybe modern day debate

that'll be a fun one

that'll be a fun one

i'll be a fun one

has don't islam and dharmic religions have an oer wrongingly antagonistic relations

i've seen indian burma address this

yeah they do

they do one

so did the greeks

so did the hellenistics and the jews look at the romans and the jews how much they fought

right

same shit

see look judaism and the greek really the greek

whatever philosophy

it's like it's about the intellect

and it's the relation between knowledge and faith

knowledge and faith

but knowledge on the basis of thought

right

islam

and the dharmic religions it's the ba it's the relationship between

faith

islam faiths just like judaism

revelation faith and

knowledge but not of thought

what of sense

darmk

religions are about

the censorus

thereabout

the hearts thereabouts

intuitions the'reabout something

that's not thought

it's more than thought

it's something

it's the unconscious right that's why karl yung

and they're so into

hinduism and stuff

it's the unconscious

that's what the darmic

religions are that's why they're religions actually because they're about the intuitions and stuff

mysticism and all that kind of stuff and islam is about

revelation and faith just like judaism is

and

i want to create a judeo muslim conspiracy

and it's basically a semetic takeover plot

so the judeo muslim conspiracy is

judaism

takes over europe

through greek merging with greek

philosophy

and then islam takes over asia

re fusing

with dharmic religions and then

the semites shall rule the earth i'm just kidding it's just a joke

not in all seriousness

the best forms of islam

are non arabic

easily

easily like

going to ask you like what's my favorite form of islam it's probably somewhere somewhere in like

ubakistan it's not going to be in any arab country

arab islam

is inferior to non arab islam

easily

off gone islam

better than arab islam

right

iranian islam yet better than arab islam

arab islam it's like it's too

ah it's just it's not there's it's just not it's eloquent

right

the'm talking the culture and the art and all that stuff

yeah look at the the huee

the hui and china such a beautiful people

such a beautiful culture

and such a beautiful form of islam that exists in china

ax speaking of the anti semitism shit i there's some twisted part of me

that wants it to start applying to arabs like

i want it i want people to start being just as paranoid about arabs

as they are about jews

because of the

and specifically phonicians because of this sematic connection because think about it

ball worship moloch worship

that's my people's shit i'm phoenician we're the ones who sit

we brought that shit into the world

we worshipped

see i don't understand anti semitism i don't get it

we are the ones

who worshipped ball and moloch and is star and all that sit

and it was the jews

who like really fought hard against that

really fought hard right

they really fought hard against it

and we the sphoenician canonites

are the ones who brought it into the world

so

noy i'm literally like

i am so smart like i'm just out here i'm literally evil like think about it i'm like

i'm like hannibal

i'm like hannibal barka

i am the evil in plain sight

while you are focused on hating jews

i am a literal

phonician

in america

taking over the world

with my evil

and nobody pays attention or notices

it's so weird right

think about it

think about it

and i've always wanted

i wanted i always wanted anti semitism to

expand

to be more inclusive to include

the other semites

such as

the extremely rich gulf arabs

as well as phoenicians

because

why do i want that i just want to feel more included

i just feel like our jewish cousins

they just get too much

attention

and

i just feel like it's not inclusive enough

that's what i feel like it's just not inclusive

it should be more inclusive

you know

we're be we're progressing as a society we're becoming more inclusive

you know day by day and

we arabs

and other we other semites we are excluded from anti semitism

nobody accuses us of conspiracies

and this strange that it's strange why not like for example

for i'm a phnician

lebanese people are the most shady mercantile people in the world

they literally go to countries all around the world they just take over

the you're to south america

you climb up the ladder and there's some lebanese dude hustling

he was like an oligarch

same shit in africa wherever the lebanese go they do that shit right

nobody bats an eye

nobody bats a fucking eye

right we just get away with it

there's no anti semitism against us

but we do worse that we are i always say this we're superjews

everything they said about the jews

we are worse

in every respect

they said jews have big noses

we have big noses

they say jews

are too hairy

we are hairy they say jews are greedy we are greedy they say that the jews

are too mercantile

we are way more merconcile

they say that the jews

are conspiratorial

we are way more conspiratorial are you do you know how much fuck in drama and conspiracy happens in arab families and

in the middle east and all these ruling families and shit

how much crazy

like the arab spring with atar insideia so manyq we're so sneaky and conspiratorial it's not even funny right

everything they say about the jews it applies to us but worse

we oll jews are too perverted and whatever

we are way more perverted than the jews

ok

we are ok

jews are obsessed with sex we are actually obsessed with sex ok

they say oh would jews are just

subversive

we are subversive

we were responsible for international terrorism ight

then they say shit like

oh um

jews are just like

they just there they're responsible for like this revolutionary rage

to overthrow europe

and europe and it's like

that's every arab

country that you go to the arab street they're all revolutionaries they're all got a ks and they're ready to throw it out

always right

and a joke as a joke right

like that's a norm you talk about oh you go lebanon to be like yeah i'm a revolutionary and you like we all are ok and we're still fighting amongst ourselves

you go to palestine know i'm a revolutionary

so what that's

we're all revolutionaries right

think about it

think about it

think about it

i'm just saying

how do you call yourself arab and phonician at the same time

because i am i get to

have that all right i'm from lebanon

and my parents are from lebanon

and that is where phoenicia was now if you're palestinian and syrian you can also be phoenician

i'm not like a meronite phnician i'm saying

but phoenicians were big that was a wee like they invented the alphabet

and they had

carthage and

huge thing you know

i' i'm going a slice of that give me a slice of that

i can have some of that

i can have some of that why can't i have some of that right

if you are iraqi you can take samyria

sumaria

and you can take babylon and shit

i want phonicia

i have a right to it that's for my parents

are from

and before you be like oh but that's not that was not you yes it was if you dig up amther fuckin

betson in lebanon

from four thousand years ago i guarantee you they will look exactly like me

i guarantee you they will look exactly like me

please go try it

i know for a fact

i grew up around

lebanese arabs

my whole fucking life i know for a fact

these people don't

they're still in the same ship for thousands of years

we arabs

do not believe in time

ok

we we just sit on the porch and just

eat cheese and tea

and we can do that for ten thousand years and we won't ever have to change a all

so i'm pretty sure four thousand years ago

you dig up

you dig up someone in lebanon

and

it looks exactly like me

there's no change that happened at all

one hundred is ay one hundred two percent

phoenician with a two percent margin of error no change at all same shitp

this is just identitarian cope nah i need you to appreciate the fact

my parents are from the same village

they're from the same village

ok

that's how it is

yeah we went to carthage

but most of us stayed behind

and we just were here

we've just been here

we didn't leave

the

what is the best argument against meroinite cringe

the best argument is you can say you're summerrian

or you can say you're ancient egyptian or you can say you're phoenician

or you can say

what the fuck aver right

but at the end of the day

we are all a rabs

i that's what i'm saying we're all just a rats

you can say whatever the fuck you want

at the end of the day in a rab is a rab and that's what we are

that's what we are

ok

we are a raps

we you know

it's not nationalism it's just the truth

you can be like oh i'm a special type of a rab ok you're a special type of a rab

but you're still in a rab

that's what you are it's just what we are any

we all got that same bullshit going on we all have the same tribal structure

we all have the same damn thing going on

it's as simple as that

we're all a rerabs

you and the phici the meroinite nationalist thank you dem and demonlims have nothing to print i agree thank you demonits or appreciate you man

that the meronites are here like

oh now we're p nicians ok so you're a special type of a rab nobody cares bitch you're still in a rab

just because you're trying to say you're a special type of a wrap don't mean nothing

the egyptians

we're ancient egyptian ok

youun a

the iraqis o were sumerrian

we're babylonian ok you w a rab

it's not much more to it

you're just a you're just a type of a rab

you ca you can call it whatever you want

you can call it whatever you want but we all behave the same way think about it

think about we all be we have the same

view on everything and we all view

we all think our shit don't stink and if you want to talk about some shit

arab supremacism is a very real thing

i will tell you something we a rabs

are racist against it

everyone

that's why i find it hilarious when there's arab identity politics in the universities i'm a person of color i'm arabic

moll fucker a rabs are racist toward white people

they are they literally

have en superiority complex to the entire world

because they're like

we are in the tribal arab structure and if you're an outsider they're like

you're not even human basically well you are

but it's like

you will always be an outsider

you know what i mean

we actually have an arabcentric mentality

in general like it's it's like actually

all the shit they say about white supremacy it actually applies to arabs that's us

we are the ones

who mould the entire world where we're the center of the world that's us

it's litally true

know what i mean

how come iran and turkey properly became national states above tribal issues

because

those civilizations and that's what they're actually are they're civilizations

actually

that

have something to offer

like those are real civilization those are real forms

of the way humanity

creates a universal existence for itself right

whereas

m

we arabs

are just tribes we're just tribes that's it we're just a bunch of tribes

and

we just follow the whoever's

the biggest tribe i guess

but

it's not really a civil i would not call it a civilization maybe i'm wrong i just i've never seen whate i've never seenan argument for it

we just fight each other

it's all we do

and um yeah

but at ok i will be critical toward my own people all i want i'm very critical toar my own people

but at the end of the day

look i will sing the praises of iran and turkey

and how much their civilizations and we arabs are not a civilization

i will admit i'm like i'm a realist i'm not coping out here right

but at the end of the day in my heart's of hearts

i am proud to be an araf

period i'm proud to be an arab it's just

justs just because it's what i am right

i'm nothing more than that i'm an arab i'll always be an arab

that's what i am

i could be realistic about shit

and not cope and give credit where credit is due to all these various different peoples

and

i can fight against arab chaalvinism which i do and i'm also against arab nationalism

and pan arabism i'm against that

what

personally

i'm a proud a red i just am

period

you know

in what if you whatever whatever you are you should be proud of it

whatever you are

you should always be proud of it

because that's whath you falkon are you're not anything else you'll never be anything else

period

right

that's the way it's got to be

and there ain't much more to it

anyway guys

and we gouys

beautiful stream

gank

tomorrow

earlier stream

and

can i tell you guys something although

i'm not getting a ton of views

live concur viewers

although i'm not

i'm having such a good time are you guys having a good time i am

i'm having a great time

i love

patrion tomorrow yeah

i'm going to make announcement of discord

everyone get your eyes in the patron

ask your damn questions

and we're going to do a long

patron quna tomorrow

ok

but i

this is a great time

and it's high quality isn't it

very high quality shit i'm very optimistic for the future infrad

i'm very optimistic

rumbles the future it may very well be thanks so much p is the future

rumble may very well be the future oil one last thing

jackson inkele

has apparently gone banned

from twitter

and it was because they marked him as a bot spam account and then you on musk was like yeah that was an error

a lot of accounts got taken were trying to correct it

so we'll see i think he'll be back though i think he will be back

i hope he'll be back

i'm optimistic i'll be back though

because it was like he got mistaken for a bot basically

beuse they been doing a big bot purge and a lot of people got caught up in that who were not bots

we'll see

we'll see

but anyway guys

in we guys

i'll see you guys

and uh one last thing right

one last thing

there's one thing that makes me not willing to be optimistic about

future of infrared

and that's

do you think about me do you think about me do you think about me

good bye to the people who trusted me

go bacy to the people who love me

go by to the people who trusted me

go by to the people

trusted me

good bye good bye to everybody

now i need

then h

now i need some move on a life

now

i need to move one in life to move one in life

good bye to the people who trust it