FBI AFTER ME! | IRAN CEASEFIRE

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Comrade Kidd with the five, what's up, bro?

Steven with the five.

Appreciate you, bro.

Middle age with the five.

Appreciate y'all.

Appreciate y'all.

First things first, y'all, my Iraqi beard is coming in.

Hey, what's up, guys?

Uh I got the police on my trail doing about a hundred miles an hour.

All right, sorry, what what's going on?

Yeah, the FBI's after me.

FBI's been investigating me.

I've been uh under FBI investigation.

And uh that's because I'm somebody who speaks their mind.

I'm not one of these bitch ass

What do you call them?

I mean, they're always complaining about transgenders and stuff, but these are really some bitch-made, like type man titties, you know, bitch-made punk-ass bitches.

These 15% of Americans, these quartering, these captive dreamers, these all the people really who were celebrating, finding out that the feds are trying to persecute me, that the government's persecuting Zagonell.

This is what I'm gonna call him, make a tweet about it.

Menopausal men.

Which they're even worse than transgender if you think about it.

At least let transgenders be.

They're not harming us.

But these people, they're a bunch of menopausal, middle-aged men, Gen X.

They're declining rapidly declining T levels.

Talking big shit on my name.

Uh as if I'm a victim and I'm a I'm I'm um

You know, they're winning basically.

You're a little bitch.

I mean, we're all gonna die one day, you little pussy.

You little bitch-made.

It's like, look, I'm gonna be straight up.

I see one of these people, I beat the brakes off of them because they need to be.

Hey, hey, hey, hey.

It's all comedy.

It's a comedy show, is it not?

Hey, look, you know, no, we all die eventually, and I'd rather live as a.

A man with aura, a man with purpose, a man with who wear who's got big balls basically.

Versus these people, they're a bunch of fuck, they're not even men.

What do you call them?

I kid you not, captive dreamer, all these, I don't even know all their names, they're right-wing menopausal men.

They sit with their legs crossed and they go to wine bars, and they're just kind of, they have a metrosexual twang in their voice, and they type big tough, they type like tough guys on Twitter.

They type on their phones, on their smartphones, like they're tough guys.

But if they were in my shoes, they would have shit their pants multiple times.

I mean, let's just think about it.

I've been in conflict zones.

I went to the funeral of Sayyid Hassan Nasrullah.

I don't give a fuck what happens to me.

You know what I mean?

These people would shit their pants if they live the life that I live.

I'm just not going to lie.

Chairman of the American Communist Party, with that target on your back.

But you know what I'm basically saying?

I'm basically walking with my nuts hanging, bitch.

I'm basically walking around with my nuts hanging, saying I don't give a fuck.

You don't think I know what I'm doing?

Being the Communist Party chairman, walking around with my fucking giant nuts out hanging, you bitch.

This is my fucking life that I live.

Because I'm a man.

I'm a lion.

And you are a little bitch.

You are a menopausal declining testosterone.

Gen X Goyim Cattle.

If I get shot in the head right now, if I get bombed right now, if I get killed and assassinated, I would have lived the life of a lion.

You understand?

Why the fuck would I live any other life?

Nobody should feel bad for me, by the way.

Because why the fuck would I want to live any other life?

You think I want to live like these anonymous

howling mutant?

You think I want to live like these people who sit at their fucking office desk and are terrified of g of showing their face because they're gonna get fired by their daddy, their sugar daddy bosses?

You think I wanna live like these fucking people?

You think I wanna live the life

Of uh Gunther Eagleman, and that's who I admire.

If I see them in person, straight up, I mean, you talk that shit.

I mean, you're going to be confronted about it for sure.

But I don't know.

All the people that were celebrating the news, it's like, why do you think this is a win for you, bitch?

How is this a win for you?

First of all, what's it going to take to wake up Americans?

What's it going to take for you people, for all the American people to realize?

They think at me this way.

What laws have I fucking broken?

All I've done is live the life of a dignified free man who expresses their opinion independently of what the powers that be think.

I've operated within the confines of the law.

I haven't broken the law.

I haven't violated any laws.

And yet they're persecuting me and they're using our tax dollars to fucking do that.

They're going to do that to everybody.

So unless you want to live the life of a castrated bitch.

As much as these people are crying all the time about transgenders, they have no balls, they're castrated, rapidly declining testosterone levels because they're menopausal.

Uh you can I mean I can't honestly my patience I have infinite patience but I have to think about a specific demographic of retarded Americans the Helldiver gamer demographic America the unironic fucking epic bacon epic bacon Americans

They'll see news that the Communist Party chairman is getting persecuted.

Oh, Communes, heck off!

Uh, you are Goyim.

I don't know what to tell you.

You are literally just, there's something about you that's just less than human, to be honest.

What'sabi, what's up?

You're just less than human.

It's like, who cares about me?

This is, do you know what kind of precedent that?

No, no, you don't care.

Of course you don't.

But just like your fathers didn't care by that, I'm going to fucking go there.

Just like your fathers didn't care during the Cold War, when they also jumped on the fucking anti-communist bandwagon, from the post-war period until now, Americans, there's not a single population on earth more cuckolded, more humiliated, more deprived of their rights than the American people.

And it's because the fathers of these same people were also fucking cuckolds.

I'm going to go ahead and say their fathers and their fathers' fathers were a cuckolded race.

Who ate up the McCarthyite anti-communist slop like the Goyim cuck cattle that they are, just to pass the baton to a cuck-olded, castrated generation after them, who does what?

Does what?

Collects Funko Pops, plays Hell's Divers, and spreads uh heck of commie memes on the fucking internet.

You're in debt and you're a slave because your cuck fathers and their fathers bowed before the propaganda of the American state machine.

Because when they were targeting the communists during the fifties, during the 60s, you fucking cheerleaded it.

It's time for some responsibility and some reflection.

It's time for some responsibility and some reflection, actually.

This is a cuckolded, sedentary population, a defeated and conquered people.

And you think you can talk some shit on me?

You think you can talk some shit on me?

You are a defeated cuck slave.

You're worse than that.

You're a literal cheerleader.

You're a free cheerleader for the regime.

And you think this makes me look bad?

I will live and die as a free man until my last breath.

Selke, you're going to live 75 years.

Who gives a fuck?

Honestly, life is not that long.

It's really not that long to be talking all that big sh Oh, who fucking cares?

It's about, are you going to live and die as a free man or are you going to be a cuckold bitch slave?

I'm not living the life of a of a captive dreamer.

I'm not going to live like the man titties quartering.

I'm not going to be living this life of these metrosexual gamer menopausal men.

These epic games the epic bacon.

Yeah, they have a beard for sure because they, um

They bought man, man, man, man care products, like dude wipes and stuff that they rub on their face to grow the hair.

I understand.

Mine is natural, but it's okay.

But then they, you know, they have these giant beards, the epic bacon manscapers.

They have these giant beards.

And then when they open their mouth...

I really think that what President Trump is doing.

Yeah, I really think that what President Trump is doing is extremely justified.

They have this metrosexual twang in their voice.

They have these giant beards.

And they have these AR-15s.

But then when they open their mouth, this is how they sound.

Do you even know anything about the principles of economics?

Do you even know about economics?

They have this metrosexual twang in their voice while they drink their black rifle coffee.

You think I admire you?

Oh, you're not being persecuted by the government.

But why would I want to be like you?

You're not even human in my eyes, right?

So these are the fifth by the way, these are the remaining 15% of people who still support the current regime and the current administration.

By the way, I'm lying.

Do you understand?

I'm lying.

I am lion, I am saber-toothed tiger, I don't have to live this life of a cuckold slave who just scared.

Fuck it, should I say some shit?

Okay, fuck it, I I say everything.

I got aura from that shit.

I open, I'm like, damn, that's aura.

Am I fucking crazy?

I don't give a fuck, bitch.

I don't give a fuck.

I would be disappointed if they weren't investigating me.

That shows I'm no threat.

I would be disappointed.

I'm like, shit.

Okay, Aura.

100%.

And then these people, Captive Dreamer, I hope Oz goes to prison.

Bitch, do you know who I am?

Do you know who I am?

You're literally, I'm literally going to enslave you one day, captive dreamer.

I'm going to enslave you.

I'm going to put you in chains.

You will literally be a slave.

Sorry.

But uh

No, you look.

I'm a good faith person.

I understand a lot of people are uneducated about communism.

I understand a lot of peop, but listen, just because you're a cuckold slayer, you're talking about your father and his father's cuckold slave lineage, where they were convinced to be anti-communist by the pedarassed, pedophile, financial capitalist class.

And then you're going to bring that energy upon me and start talking shit on me and being aggressive with me because you don't like communists.

I will bitch slap you into the concrete.

You come up to me with.

I will put you in a self-defense situation.

I will bitch slap you into concrete.

I'm not Jesus Christ.

I am not.

I'm not here to die for your sins.

I'm here to defend and assert the rights of the Communist Party.

Do you understand?

Who in turn is fighting for the American people?

Sure.

But we communists, we have our own dignity.

We walk upright.

We walk with our nuts hanging out.

We are free men.

If you're a communist, if you are a Bolshevik, you are a free man.

You understand?

I live the life of a free man.

Ain't nobody gonna infringe upon my dignity.

Some random ass bitch, epic bacon, brainwashed piece of shit, quote tweeting me and in my replies.

You know, the other day I saw this.

This gay, uh, no, no, that's okay, that's their life, but they're, you know, one of these closeted gays, basically.

Autistic.

They they uh one of these menopausal Gen X, they one of these people that have meme folders with the helicopter memes and the the fifties ironic memes, like, How about a nice cup of shut the fuck up?

Remember those Facebook memes that, uh

The low IQ which share from the nineteenth the ironic fifties style of whatever that Gen X people still cling to who play Helldivers.

Commiters, yeah.

Anyway, one of them replied to my post.

By the way, this post attracted more negative responses from the American right than anything I've ever posted on X.

And the reason is because all I did was make a post with a dog.

And that's like the mandate of heaven for white Americans.

So, as soon as these goi slaves, slave of Zionist Jews, whipped, literally whipped, they're in chains.

That's why I don't see them as human.

Like, when I take over, you are still going to be a slave.

I will take you.

You're the property of Zionists.

You'll become our property.

You will clean the shit in our toilets, but you're a slave.

You're still in chains.

We're just going to seize you as a property.

You're literally a property.

You're a movable type.

Gorilla, what's up?

Anyway, these slaves were sent by the Zionists, the Mossad types, whatever, they got the memo.

Shut it down, shut it down.

The Arab is with the dog.

Americans love that.

So they had to go and shut it down.

An innocent post of me next to a dog, they they were sent into uh you know, they activated those cheap Air Force bots.

Anyway, one of these uh

One of these man titty menopausal middle-aged men.

They replied, and they're like, This is the frog of ratio.

Like this, if this gets more likes than the original post, then it sucks.

And then all the goofy goober 47-year-old men, you know, with their with their dude wipes and their black rifle coffee, they saw it.

We're supposed to believe that it got 1,000 impressions and about 700 likes, which means we're supposed to believe that basically every impression it got, one person engaged with it, which doesn't exist on X, by the way.

So, okay, if you want to know what that actually means, they were botting.

And then I just kind of thought to myself, okay, you're using bots.

You block all of my people.

I thought of something pretty devious and devilish.

I was like, okay, if it gives you satisfaction to ratio me, I'm just going to hide your reply and block you.

And then they couldn't ratio me.

You look at it now, they couldn't.

It's like, why am I not?

I'm just going to hide your reply, you fucking bitch.

You think I'm running from confrontation with you?

I don't hide where I am.

You can find me in person, or you can fucking debate me.

Any type of confrontation I want, you know, if I'm forced or whatever, you know what I mean?

Any type of confrontation, I'm not running from it, though, right?

So you want to play this like game.

You want to use these bots.

I will just hide your reply and block you and shut you.

You think you can just be in my replies for free and just it's a free speech zone?

No, I'm just going to fucking completely.

Decimate you, just like you're decimating declining testosterone levels because you're a menopausal middle-aged man.

You fucking pussy.

You fucking have AR-15s and you go to the range.

And I know y'all put those headphones on when you're at the range, you tough guys.

You have to do it right!

And you confuse your cowardice with technical expertise on how to handle firearms.

And then you have me who fires a PKM light machine gun without anything, no hearing, anything.

I don't have ear plugs, I don't have the special thing, I just fucking do it because I have big balls.

Literally, suck my dick, bitch.

You gun, gun enthusiast, fucking pussies.

You're nothing.

You're like, you know, I saw, did you guys see that shit?

Where they're like, Idaho has more.

I just have to, it's so cringy.

It's so fucking cringy.

Idaho Guns Canada.

I have to show you this gay, extremely gay, extremely gay menopausal.

Just it's giving big time hell divers.

This is exactly what I'm talking about.

These are the people that I'm talking about.

Like, this is their entire existence, their sense of humor, everything about them is this.

Ready?

First of all, look at this extremely uh, you know, submissive looking, low testosterone, menopausal, metrosexual pose that they're doing and there's not even a video playing.

But you should see this and you should understand what we're up against.

The people that are saying they want to kill commies like Homath, the the Homath, the gay guy screaming about how he can get no pussy, he's f fifty years old, he gets no bitches, and he's screaming and crying about it all day.

This is them, by the way.

These are the people talking that big shit to us.

Yeah, you think if you think if they say this shit to me and they put me in a self-defense situation, I'm not gonna slap these people into the concrete.

Epic bacon epic look at this manscaped look at this manscaped mail.

Look at this epic bacon manscaped male.

This guy talking shit about transgenders.

This is a transgender.

That's not a man.

That's the he they have transmogrified into something else.

And maybe I you know what?

There are more than two genders.

Because this is neither a man nor a woman.

This is some third thing, some fourth thing, some fifth thing.

Definitely on the estrogenic side of the spectrum.

You know, since it's a spectrum, but for certain, for certain, I know that they were right when they said there's more than two genders.

Now I know there are because it's not a man, it's not a woman, it's definitely some third, fourth, fifth, sixth, something that we haven't qualified or classified.

Definitely has a definitely menstruating, definitely menopausal, definitely metrosexual, definitely not a man, definitely extremely gay, but even in a way that would make gays think it's gay.

Even the gays think this is gay.

That's how gay it is.

Even gays say this is gay.

That's how extremely, I mean, flaming gay this is.

Even the gays are cringing.

They're saying, you know, this, you know what?

Even this video has the gays saying, Alright, roll back the gay marriage, roll it back, roll back the rights, just roll it back, it was all a mistake, this is too far.

Even they're questioning whether they should have rights after seeing this.

These are the people who complain about transgenders for a living, by the way.

Can you believe it?

They're picking on these transgenders, most of whom I would say are not bothering anyone.

Most of whom I think live peaceful lives.

And their whole life they think they're tough men because this is their life crying about transgenders all day.

Okay, meet a real man like me, bitch.

I have never met a single one of you people who have said shit to my face my entire fucking life, by the way.

You know?

Anyway, you know, it's like, okay, all they can and then they cry and they I'm a big threat.

I'm a terrorist.

Haas, you're a terrorist.

You're an Islamic terrorist.

Okay, we get it.

Shabbat shalom.

We get it.

Shalom, shalom.

We get it.

We get a Tel Aviv Shalom.

Goyem, we understand.

I understand Goyem.

Yeah, they say enjoy prison, enjoy prison.

Okay, I'm gonna make you a promise.

I'll make a promise right now.

If I go to prison, if I go to prison, there will be more, no more United States of America.

Because they would have to find a pretext for throwing me in jail that they will inevitably use on higher value targets.

You think I'm the highest value target?

No.

So if they're gonna fucking come after me...

Long guy, what's up?

Whatever illegal standard that they attempt to fucking pull out of their ass against me for exercising my First Amendment rights, they're gonna use against some fucking Democrat or someone else.

And they're gonna fucking light the flames of a civil war.

So I'm here literally fucking completely fine, devoid of any cortisol.

That's how confident I am.

Devoid of any cortisol.

Oh, have fun in jail.

You think you're gonna be able to terrorize and intimidate 30, 50% of the country?

In this way, I'm part of the 30-50% of the country that have just had enough, by the way.

So, you think they're just going to pick me off and it's not going to have consequences for everyone else?

Good luck.

Really, good luck.

And by the way, everyone's going to remember who you were.

We're all going to remember you.

Don't worry.

This administration is not going to last forever.

Trump will die eventually.

This will not last forever.

You are 15% of the country right now.

All of us are going to remember you.

Every single one of us are going to remember you who cheered on state repression, who cheered on killing, extra judicial killings, and persecution and murder and so on and so on.

We're all going to remember who you were.

We're going to remember your faces.

We're going to remember where you live.

We're going to remember every detail about you.

This current situation is not this current criminal lawless situation that you're oinking like a pig, squealing with excitement about, is not going to last forever.

I promise.

I know what's going on in the U.S.

military, where Pete Hegseth is fucking hated by all the fucking active duties, by all the reservists, by all the fucking personnel, by the National Guardists, even by the military hierarchy that they haven't managed to completely fucking replace with loyalists.

Everyone fucking hates the current administration.

You have no fucking idea what kind of country you're living in.

If you think you can simply say, throw him in jail.

See, these critics of Israel are being harassed and persecuted by the state.

And you have epic bacon captive dreamer types.

You have howling mutant, epic bacon, captive dreamer types like this, who look like this, by the way.

Metrosexuals who have manscaped beards.

Put him in jail Put him in jail Put him in jail Now Trump send him Now lock him away Lock him away He's scary Lock him away These beardson, this is a beardson This is literally what they are Beardson

Put him in jail, FBI, put him in jail, put him in jail.

Even if I'm in jail.

Even if I'm in Fuck it, even if I'm shot and killed, I live the life of a free man.

Uh what do you think victory?

I mean, I don't understand this civilization.

Do you think victory means?

That you are comfy.

Is that victory?

You have a woman's understanding of victory.

Even then, I think women are less shallow.

You have a child's understanding of what it means to win.

To you, victory means being comfy.

Okay, so I suppose Napoleon, when he was exiled to Saint Helena after Waterloo, I guess he won because he was living a comfy life, right?

That's how it works.

You fucking retard.

Absolute fucking retards.

What kind of civilization is that?

What kind of morals are these?

What kind of values they're not of men?

Yeah, victory is when you're comfortable.

That's what vict that's what it means to win in life.

Just being comfortable.

Just sitting on your couch and playing video games.

And you know what these subhumans call it?

They call it Vidia.

By the way, this guy, he calls it Vidia.

Kill em all in a video game.

I mean what the hell?

Gavin Newsome, just kill 'em all in a video game.

I'm sorry.

Like, you know when the Bolsheviks they put down the Tambov rebellion with gas?

I don't know.

If we could just funnel the gas into, you know, gamer PCs somehow, uh, if we in a legal way, if if Gavin Newsom takes power and we could just have a law signed into Congress that uh

I don't know.

Poison gas is going to come out of the gamer PCs of people who look like this.

Um.

The world might be better off for it.

Anyway, guys, I'll be right back.

Give me one second.

The FBI's here.

Give me a sec.

Sorry guys, the FBI just took me to jail because I hurt Captive Dreamers' feelings, a Canadian, and Drew Pavlou.

I was just in jail because I hurt their feelings.

Because the commies make them uncomfy.

Freaking commies.

This is just like the 50s, ironic 50s.

This is fallout.

This is fallout.

These metrosexual, menopausal, declining testosterone males.

Why are you even looking in my direction, bitch?

It's like you're slave, you're a slave.

Slave cannot look me in the eyes.

Don't look in my direction, slave.

You are slave of Zionist Jews.

We're not even gonna you're not we don't acknowledge you as a subject.

When we defeat the Zionists, we're just gonna take you as property.

Just like when we seize the means of production, you will be part of that.

You are not human, you are a category, you are an object, you are a thing.

Groipers claimed it was because of Tyler Robinson.

But they were just joking, you know.

This is like a really funny troll, like 30 years old, but we're trolling, like, you know, we're just yeah, it's just like a troll, but we're 30 years old, so don't worry.

Um.

Yeah.

No, look, it's all it's the internet.

It's the internet.

Somber, what's up?

It's the internet, but.

I, okay, I'll give you my honest take.

Every single person who has cheerleaded the current regime and its foreign interventions, whether it's Venezuela, whether it's, I'll give you my actual serious take.

I support the persecution to the utmost degree with maximal consequences.

The entirety of the U.S.

population, the 15%, who support the actions of the current regime that are unconstitutional.

If you support the illegal unconstitutional actions of the regime, whether it pertains to foreign interventions or the persecution of American citizens of conscience or Americans in general of conscience for their free speech and for their views, if you were a cheerleader, if you tried to give this moral support in any kind of way whatsoever.

I believe in Nuremberg trials for you.

I absolutely support any worst possible outcome occurring to you.

Because you are basically, it's like we're all in a prison right now, and these are the snitches.

You got to think about it like that.

We're all in prison right now, and these are the snitches.

And our morals and our ethics are such that we don't care what happens to snitches.

You are the lowest of the low.

You are literally beyond our ability to recognize as human.

We're all in a prison right now in America under this occupation.

And these are the snitches.

These are the collaborators.

These are like the Vichy collaborators.

And by the way, half of them are foreign.

Drew Pavloo in these types.

That's okay.

Precision missiles, heat-seeking missiles can deal with Drew Pavloo.

Uh and I never wanted it to get to this level before anyone claims I'm inhuman before anyone claims what happened to your human values why are you listen I from 2021 until 20 you know 24 let's say

When infrared was first here.

There was no one more human humanistic than me when it comes to this.

There was nobody more you know, I I support dialogue, there was nobody more, you know, I uh don't believe we should you know take it to this level, you know, just stay what's up differences of opinion should never translate into losing a grasp or a comprehension of someone's humanity.

But when they jumped the gun and started this precedent, I mourned not just for everyone, but even for myself, because I realized if we are to survive in this new environment, if we're able to exist in this new world,

We have to operate where the law of the jungle prevails.

We cannot have any regard for the humanity when they are the aggressor, when they're actively, actively disregarding the humanity of others, when they're actively violating all red lines, crossing all red lines without limits, without any morals whatsoever.

Literally the morals of beasts and wild animals.

We're in the jungle now.

I can't vouch for the humanity of these people because we're focused on completely neutralizing their ability to do harm to both the people in our own country and the people of the world.

And by the way, we all knew Trump's bitch ass wasn't going to do shit in Iran.

I knew that at least.

I hope everyone else did.

But in any case, it's the mere pretense to ending an entire civilization.

I mean, on the one hand, it's like should you even take that seriously in the sense of should you even entertain that, right?

But on the other hand, it's like

It's like the fact that this is the posture people have, the fact that they're providing discursive and moral

Basically put it this way.

At some level, the discursive and moral cheerleading by these people is enabling the regime to get away with what they're doing.

Because the book stops at the second lowest chain of command.

If JD Vance

Can di- you know, suppress whatever conscience he might have by opening X and reading Captive Dreamer's tweets and the chain of command below him and below him and bel these people, by the way, who do you think follows Captive Dreamer and the rest of these types?

It's people in the regime who are looking for some kind of discursive and moral cover for these outright depraved and criminal actions.

So, if they could just open X and feel content that they have this justification of some kind, they will absolutely take and seize every opportunity they can, every opening, every out to continue doing what they're doing.

Even if it confines them to this echo chamber of psychopaths who comprise maybe 15% of the U.S.

population.

I mean, Captive Dreamer doesn't even have 80,000 followers, or he has only 80,000.

He doesn't even have 100,000 followers.

And yet he's so influential.

Who do you think is boosting him?

And it goes for others as well, right?

And then you have Kat Turd and Gunther Eagleman and so on and so on.

But these are the people who are enabling the regime by providing it with the discursive and moral cover that it needs on an operational capacity, even to just get the people who work for the regime to continue doing what they're doing.

Think about that.

The regime has employees.

It has people working for the government.

They need a way.

They need to have some kind of morale to continue doing what they're doing.

All of the people giving them that morale right now are criminals.

They're absolutely culpable in the crimes of the regime.

And when this regime falls,

Hell, even if the when this administration falls.

Um whatever happens to them.

First of all, square one is whatever happens to them.

Uh we support if it's negative, 100%.

Uh any bad thing that happens to them, they get what's coming to them.

They are criminals, they do deserve it.

I used to absolutely be a free speech person who said, no, no, no, this isn't about free speech anymore.

Free speech assumes that the Constitution is being upheld.

It's not.

They are cheerleading for our free speech to be taken away.

And the regime is taking our free speech away.

So its collaborators, the people running cover for it, we should not see humanity in them.

Uh they need to be treated like Vichy collaborators were when the Vichy regime was overthrown.

They need to be seen as like in prison how you see snitches.

Because we're in prison right now and these are the snitches.

These are the collaborators.

So, absolutely, I can give every necessary justification.

All current regime shills.

Whether their shilling is purely propagandistic or something else, you know.

They should be tried as the criminals that they are and be suppressed.

And, you know.

We should not worry, let's say Gavin Newsome takes power.

By the way, I think the Democrats would do the things Trump threatens to do.

By the way, that's the difference.

Democrats are absolutely ruthless.

Trump is morally, rhetorically ruthless.

Democrats would actually fucking do it.

In any case

If Gavin Newsom takes power, he's going to try to persecute all of us for certain.

But he's also going to maybe, hopefully, persecute these people.

But the sad part is it's witchful it's wishful thinking.

Because

I remember in February 22 during the SMO, the bots that I was dealing with are the same ones that are now being used to defend the Trump regime.

And that's absolutely what we're talking about here.

There's a continuity of the regime that's just across administrations.

And y it just it glows in the dark.

That's how you could tell.

It l it quite literally just glows in the dark.

That's what it is.

It just fucking glows, right?

And um

That's really what we're dealing with.

That's what it means.

When we say glowy, right?

But um

So, I want everyone to be on the same page when it comes to, um, you know.

The current persecution level.

That we should expect these people to experience.

Uh, regardless, I mean, it's it's no longer about defending free speech.

The defense of free speech doesn't apply to the people actively cheerleading and supporting the destruction of our Constitution.

Frankly,

Frankly.

And now of course we're law abiding, follow all the laws.

But uh the current regime is not gonna last forever and yes, we there the day will come when there will be no laws or order for that matter to speak of.

But the American Communist Party will still be around.

So I want to be absolutely clear about that, frankly.

Uh you know, cat turd, all these type of people.

It's like

You know, uh, we didn't want it to get to this point, but they pushed it to that point, and uh, it's as simple as that.

Anyway, yeah, the FBI's investigating me.

Big news.

I suspect this was triggered by my visit to Lebanon, given the timing of the gag order, but I'm in consultation.

With legal expertise and uh we'll get to the bottom of it precisely.

In any case, I again I have no fear and no regret.

Ah, simple as that.

I have no fear, I have no regret when it comes to that.

And additionally, regarding this news of the Iran ceasefire.

Uh it's quite interesting.

Because there's a l there's a huge degree of ambiguity.

As far as what has actually been agreed upon.

After sifting through all of the fake news and information, here's what I can gather as far as what's happened when it comes to the ceasefire.

By the way Trump does not have the balls to promise to do what he promised, and I'll tell you why he wasn't gonna do it.

It's really simple actually.

But uh what's been agreed upon is that there's going to be a ceasefire and that the United States will consider negotiations that begin with you know it's going to entertain the ten points.

So has the US acquiesced to Iran's ten points?

No.

But they will be considered during negotiations.

Now I hope and I think m perhaps the IRGC and Iran know what they're doing.

Maybe they need the two weeks.

After all, there's a lot of equipment that Iran destroyed that needs years to repair.

Maybe ye weeks for them are much more precious.

I don't know.

I could tell you for certain that Iran was not scared Trump was going to follow through on his threat to end their quote unquote end their civilization or use nuclear weapons or anything like that.

And I'll tell you why.

If Trump

Attacked Iran's power plants.

Let's just begin there.

If Trump attacked Iran's power plants, no, no, no.

If Trump attacked Iran's oil fields, let's put it that way.

What Iran would do is wipe Qatar, the Emirates,

And economically, Saudi Arabia off the map.

Qatar would probably be done, genocided, exterminated.

Saudi Arabia, a considerable portion of its population, would be killed.

It would be economically incapacitated for certain all its oil fields would be destroyed.

Iran would destroy the oil fields across the entire Gulf, including the Emirates, and plunge the entire world.

Into decades of chaos and strife and overnight basically collapse.

the entire global system, end the United States of America as we know it, and plunge the entire world into chaos, armed conflict, civil war, resource wars, shortages, blackouts in America, you fucking name it.

If Trump

Followed through on five percent of the consequences implied by ending Iran as a civilization.

Forget about nukes, forget about ending it as a civilization.

Just if he struck their power plants, Iran would have plunged the entire world into darkness.

Forever.

I mean, not forever, for decades at least.

Maybe maybe like half a maybe half a century, who knows?

The world would take a long time to recover.

And it would be an ugly, chaotic world.

So Trump, to be clear, did not ever have the balls.

Nobody should have taken Trump seriously when he said he's going to end Iran as a civilization.

Trump is not ballsy.

He doesn't do these apocalyptic, crazy things.

And all you have to know is this, would Trump survive in a a post-apocalyptic world?

Before you worry about Trump bringing on the apocalypse, ask yourself the basic question.

Would Donald Trump survive a post-apocalyptic world?

No.

Would Haas survive a post-apocalyptic world?

Yes.

Would Trump?

Absolutely not.

Would I RGC commanders and

Iranians and Hezbollah and people of that

People who are built like that, would they survive a post-apocalyptic world?

Yes.

Would Trump?

No.

Would Captive Dreamer?

No.

Captive Dreamer would be.

mutilated and tortured and skinned and tortured for days, perhaps weeks, in really gruesome, brutal ways.

Uh that goes for Gunther Eagleman, Cat Turd, uh Howling Mutant.

I'm learning about all these people.

Uh Calai Yuga, Pedophile, uh uh Beardson.

Nick Fuentes, they would not survive a post-apocalyptic world.

They would be immediately perhaps eaten.

Perhaps they'd be eaten if there were food shortages.

Perhaps the worse things would happen to them that I won't even name.

Definitely tortured.

They would be definitely skinned alive.

Definitely brutalized in very gruesome ways.

And the best life they could hope for is is being enslaved, really.

They would have just chains, they would be in chains, maybe they would be enslaved by some local warlord or something.

That's not the type of world they would want to live in.

I would be really ugly for them.

In a and no, not in a video game, in a post-apocalyptic scenario.

These people, if you can call them that, would not thrive.

I can say that.

I don't need to say in a video game.

I can say, I can speculate and give the analytical conclusion that they would they would not fare well.

So whenever they make world-ending threats, understand that they will never follow through with them because they're not prepared for the consequences.

Especially Trump.

Especially Trump is not.

Trump doesn't have enough support.

Again, the fifteen percent of Americans who support Donald Trump look like the guy that I just showed you, metrosexual, menopausal, middle-aged gamers.

That those are not people who are actually okay, do you want to understand why they'll never win a civil war?

Maybe you could clip this.

You want to know why the Trump supporting right will never win a a Civil War?

Because in order to win a war of any kind, you have to be willing to die.

You have to actually put your life on the line and be brave enough to die for what you believe in.

When you look at the ways in which they

Rationalize or respond to examples of people being martyred, people who are dissidents, who are persecuted, people who are that brave.

You can immediately see they're not built like that because they're always laughing at them and posturing, haha, you lose, I won.

See, for a martyr, you didn't win, I won.

I lived as a lion, I died as a lion, right?

But they don't see it that way.

When your life is terminated and you can no longer play video, and you can no longer masturbate to child anime porn, which is what they do, don't make a mistake of it.

When you can no longer consume and live a useless, lounging, hedonistic life.

Like Captive Dreamer, or whoever else, these subhumans, humans, right?

Um

For that to be terminated is what defeat is to them.

And so when they sit in their luxury and comfort and watch people getting killed or persecuted or thrown in jail or something for their beliefs, and they scoff at that and they go, ha ha ha, you lose, they're showing their ass to the world.

In a scenario where they would have to actually fight a war of some kind.

Their defeat is certain because, unless you're willing to take the risk of putting your life on the line, you don't stand a chance.

There's always going to be an enemy who is.

And you will always choose comfort over honor, which means you are what Aristotle called a natural slave.

You are born and bred, you are meant and destined to be a slave.

That's what you are.

You made the choice.

You're a slave.

Whether you made a choice or whether you were born that way, we can only speculate.

But you have the morals of a slave.

You are not willing to put your life on the line for anything.

Forget about putting your life on the line.

You're not even willing to put your career on the line.

That's why these people are anonymous.

So because this is these are the terms of victory and defeat that that are meaningful to you, you are signaling to people like me that when shit hits the fan, I'm coming right for you.

I mean you are easy pickings.

That's what you're signaling to people like me who are about some real ass shit.

You know?

Um

If there was no law anymore, if there was no government anymore, if nobody was enforcing any laws, if everything just collapsed, how would these people survive?

How would they be able to posture and how would they even be able to maintain any pretense

When people like me exist, who actually have a life that is purposeful, who actually devote their life to something, like literally devote everything that they exist for to something.

How would they be able to fare when people like me are their competition?

They wouldn't.

And it's as simple as that.

And they can talk shit on the internet all they want and they can.

Gibber and posture all they want, but at the nothing is going to change the fact that when they are actually forced.

Is shit going to collapse?

Yes Yes, it is.

I wish people saw that with the same level of clarity that I do.

Um, people just tend not to think holistically.

They tend not to think long term.

They tend not to consider the fact that, uh,

Well look.

The American Empire

has existed since the post war period.

But the last real war that America fought

Was World War II?

I would say it was the Civil War, actually, but let's just be generous and say it was World War II.

It tested us as a nation, tested our resolve, tested our industrial productive capacity.

Once if you can hear me.

Alright.

And whoever said buy a new cable, you're retarded.

Alright, I bought a new cable.

I'm being fucked with 100%, but whatever.

Anyway, I don't care.

I don't I literally don't care.

Yeah.

The last time we were tested as a nation was World War Two, okay.

That was the last real war.

And the reason it was our last real war is because it tested the loyalty of this nation.

The entire country had to mobilize around a common goal uh for victory or for defeat.

Okay.

And that's what tested us.

Now we live in a violent world.

States are violent by nature, okay?

They rest upon violence in order to exist.

We have not been tested in nearly a hundred years.

It's nearly a hundred years that's passed since we have been tested, okay?

And

The state cannot continue to exist.

If it rests upon an untested basis, do you understand?

The ability for the state.

To even exist.

Unless it tests the population's will continuously to live and die for something.

Uh it cannot continue to exist.

And we are past the point of the state losing all moral authority.

I think we passed that point in the sixties or seventies with the Vietnam War.

And after the Vietnam War it became about hedonism and credit cards and fueling consumerism.

But I think we're just about at the limit of that as well.

I think that the ways in which huge swaths of the population are engaging in self-destructive behavior shows the spiritual limits of consumerism.

And so we've ri we're really getting to the point where

War, real war, is

Demanded by the existence of this nation.

A real war.

Not a war against Iran, not a war on Venezuela, not a war on Russia, not a war on China.

But a war within.

Because every war that we fight abroad is a war that cannot command the morale of the population.

So what's left?

How can the inherent violence that is at the foundation of the existence of the state continue to have vitality and vigor?

If it's untested, the only thing that tests it is a standing army willing to die for it, really.

As Hegel said, that's what Hegel understood as the significance of war.

When you don't have that,

The state rests on sand.

Which it it does.

I mean it does.

That's why paranoias increase, that's why it's become so internally repressive.

It's not normal for states to be as repressive as they are, by the way, as ours.

Endemic issues like gang violence, terrorism, and gang warfare, and all these kind of things, these are features of a collapsing civilization.

A civilization in a normal state has some kind of relationship with its population that makes impossible the organic or spontaneous emergence of stochastic types of terrorism and mass shootings and stuff.

A normal civilization doesn't have those.

Why?

Because there's a social contract written by blood at its foundation, where, at least in the terms of the modern state, at least, a considerable portion of the population has enforced the will and the existence of the state by attaching their own lives to it and by a willingness to sacrifice their lives for it.

And this is the foundation of a well-ordered and united society under a regime or under a state.

We don't have that.

Those basic premises don't exist anymore.

And so yes, a collapse is inevitable, and it's very clear and obvious to people like me who understand that

Um this is a the the the clock is running out and it's a game of chicken.

Fortune goes to the bold and the brave.

There's a ganger there's a gang banger in Chicago somewhere right now who is waiting.

There's crazy militias in the Pacific Northwest waiting.

There's all sorts of crazy fucking people who have discovered something they consider more valuable than their own life.

Who are waiting?

And

You can't pin it down t to to an ideology or a a boogeyman.

You can't say this is like the t um uh uh Bush era and say this is because of Islamic terrorism.

It's not.

It's completely chaotic.

So that's who in the absence of a united state

that gives purpose to life, all other kinds of purposes or lack thereof will overwhelm civilization

and hijack people's biological systems, their their their their self-preservation mechanisms for it.

And that has already proliferated like a a million flowers blooming, right?

And the only thing keeping it at bay is a logistical and operational capacity.

That is increasingly unstable and unsustainable for multitude of reasons.

First reason is a breakdown in the global supply chains and resources.

If there were blackouts across the country,

As a consequence of the strait continuing to be closed or other major disruptions in our supply chains, there's no longer a logistical or operational capacity to maintain technological domination and control by the regime.

At the second level, the regime does in fact require a considerable human bureaucracy and personnel in order to enforce its will.

What happens when that bureaucracy becomes internally divided between loyalists and partisans of a certain flavor or lack thereof?

Simply divided, that's also a breakdown in the operational and logistical capacity of the state.

Both of these conditions have already been met.

Yes, there's going to be a collapse.

Uh you can absolutely be certain of it.

Amilo, what's up with the tan?

Appreciate you.

We all know it too, and I wish people understood it with the same clarity that I have.

I'll say that again, you know.

But I digress.

So, to be clear, you know, how soon?

I can't, I'm not a fortune teller.

People keep asking me how soon.

I am not um

What's his name?

I'm not that guy.

What's his name?

I'm not Zoltar.

I never said I was Zoltar.

I just I'm telling you, there's there are logical premises.

Um

Or there are premises we can comprehend logically.

They have a rational relationship, and when one or two variables are missing.

You know, there are going to be consequences.

You don't know when.

You don't exactly know how.

But the lo it's it is logical to say that there will be a collapse.

Give me one second, guys.

My notifications are blowing up.

People are still people are still screaming about this tweet from yesterday with the dog.

This is fucking crazy.

This is fucking crazy.

People are still like freaking out about it.

The dog tweet.

It's like a traly fuck, let me see the replies.

Six hundred and three replies.

Uh these people fuck dogs.

They worship dogs.

It's like, okay, there was a dog who gives a fuck.

They're so like freaked out and and scared by it.

I'm I'm hiding this anime fuck and blocking them.

Ha ha having lived in it, no, hiding and blocking, get the fuck out of my face, Tether, you're not human.

This guy shared a boomer meme hiding your reply and blocking you.

This guy's talking about fucking dogs, hiding your reply and blocking you.

This guy's name is Man Bear Jew and he's talking shit.

Goodbye.

Hi Haas, I lived under communism.

Hide your reply and block you.

Um this guy's sharing uh okay.

I'll I'll continue finding more.

But we'll we'll uh put a pause on it for now.

You know?

Alright, I got some shit to talk about, y'all.

I got some shit to talk.

I mean, I wish I was on a more lighthearted mood.

By the way, I was just at an ACP event in St.

Louis, Missouri.

For all those who were in attendance, I'm always in such a light-hearted, unserious mood.

Like such a jolly, unserious, light-hearted mood.

Because when I'm on stream, this is when I'm a serious motherfucker.

Do you understand?

So I want to go back to being lighthearted on stream and funny on stream.

But I was just so silly the whole time.

I feel like I have a lot to make up for.

Um okay, I want to I want to talk about the ACP social, but maybe I should save that.

Okay, can I say something, guys?

In ACP, when there are ACP events, I just want to PSA, all right?

Do not have a chud-like antisocial being too serious type of shit.

All right.

If it's an ACP event where we're not planning anything or getting and there's no business going on, you guys need to be a million times more lighthearted.

You need to be like Orvo, honestly.

You need to like make me laugh a little bit.

Make everyone, make others laugh.

I don't see enough Keck W's.

I will critique, I didn't see enough Keck W's.

I was really fighting hard for the Keck W's.

Uh there need to be more Keck W's

In real life, all right, because we're gonna have plenty of time to be sad and serious with the events coming.

So, every fucking opportunity you can, all right, guys, let's be less chud-like.

Not everyone, I'm not saying everyone, I'm just saying overall.

Uh, every time there's an ACP event, which is like just chill, people oftentimes want to only focus on serious topics of conversation and serious stuff, and I'm just kind of like, look.

We need to

Calm down a little bit, right?

We need to chill.

Uh we we can't be on this Chud thing, right?

It's not even bad.

I'm not saying people are bad.

I'm not saying it's bad at all.

I'm just saying it's like.

Don't act like it's a funeral.

Don't act like it's a funeral.

Don't treat it like a funeral.

I'm not gonna lie, guys.

Sometimes I'm walking in the room.

Everybody's just kind of silent.

They're just sitting down.

They're just kind of barely mumbling.

I'm like, is this a funeral?

Like, what's going on?

Right?

Okay.

That's all I'm going to say about it.

You know, we can't be treating our events like funerals, right?

Uh great and love lighthearted, I hope.

No, Jennifer was not guilty of this at all.

Jennifer was super Keck W.

As a matter of fact,

Actually, I think almost all of the ACP see the bit this is the thing, the dynamic is like our the female comrades in the ACP.

are very um pro social and lighthearted when it comes to these events.

For the I'm not, you know, in the main and we should we should you you guys should we need to like break the Chud dynamic, I think, you know, in a l a little bit.

I think we need a b a little bit, you know, there needs to be a little less of the funeral

Fu funeral atmosphere, if I may say so.

Because we have plenty of opportunity to be serious.

It's a serious world we live in.

We're gonna plenty of serious things we do, you do as a party, as chapters already.

Plenty of work and sweat and blood and tears you put into this.

So, when we have these ACP events that are just for fun, have fun.

Just have fun.

Make it all about Keck W.

Um

So uh

Just make it Keck W, you know, be like Orvo.

Honestly, Orvo gets it.

I hung out with Orvo in real life, and he is a real Keck W.

So I just wanted to say that

Just wanted to say that.

Anyway, guys, um, but now I feel like there's gonna be people who force it next time.

That's all right.

That's all right, we start from somewhere.

All right, anyway, um

I'll move on to another topic, the interhasm.

So I was thinking about some shit, right?

And we keep getting called Nazbulls.

And then I realized something.

It's like, why is it when I say we're internosbos, I'm like, you know what?

That kinda goes hard.

Like internationalist Bolsheviks.

I don't know, it's just like

It goes hard, but then people are gonna bitch and cry about the the Nas part, because it sounds like Nazi, as if they own that.

Why should they own that?

I mean, it's international and national share the same root word.

Internazbull goes hard as fuck.

We are internationalists, but at the same time, we are on some real ass shit.

I don't know.

Inter-Nasbull goes fucking hard, but and then I thought it's kind of forget the Nas, we make it Haz, intern Hasbull, international Hezbollah Bolsheviks.

I'm just kind of like, that shit kind of goes hard.

I don't know.

I don't know.

Inter-Hasbull gang.

It's like I wouldn't mind if people pointed at us and said, oh, those are the inter-Nasbulls.

Those are the inter-Hasbulls.

Okay, fuck it.

You need a signifier to distinguish us.

I agree.

I agree.

We're not like Finn Bull.

I agree.

I agree.

We are not KKE Gay Reek LARPE MLs.

We are Orthodox MLs, but I agree there's something about Infrared and our whole vibe that's just kind of different.

Like we bring a whole different vibe to the function, and I understand that.

And your way of dealing with that is calling us Nasbulls, which is not accurate because we're not nationalists.

But if you were to just start calling us inter-Nasbulls or inter-Hasbulls, I'm like, there's something about that.

It would be less triggering to me because I'm just kind of like.

It's kind of like inter Hasbull gang type of shit.

Inter Nasbull Hasbola type of shit.

I don't know.

It's like something about it is just gangsta.

I don't know.

I fuck with it.

I kind of.

I don't know.

It's just kind of gangsta.

Now, Hasbull is kind of like, it's just like, y'all are my followers.

And.

It's like alright.

But uh, I don't that's why I kind of there's aspects of inter-Hasbul that are not and it's so funny because inter-Hasbul sounds like you're fascist or something.

Oh, you're fascist!

Oh, it's internationalist Bolshevik, meaning Lenin was an inter-Hasbul or inter-Nazbull.

Okay, all the Stalin, they were all inter-Nasbulls.

When you think about it, Stalin was an inter-Nosbull, absolutely.

So, why is that?

It's just like the word Nasbull has just kind of come to mean something different than what either the European third positionist or Lomanov intended it to mean.

And it's kinda like, Oh, you are the leftists that say slurs.

And tell bad jokes.

And I'm like, okay.

I mean, like, I don't really have a problem.

Being categorized as that.

But Nasbull's just not accurate.

So you could just call us inter Nasbulls or inter Hazbulls.

Like, I don't give a fuck.

Yeah, we're in like we're about that like gang gang type of shit.

We're about that Bolshevik type of shit.

Where about that um

I don't know.

It's just something kind of punk about it.

Inter and Osbol.

It's just kind of punk.

It's like a, I don't know what it is.

Inter Osbull, whatever.

Uh, we are internationalist, internationalist, Hezbollah Bolsheviks.

It's kind of like, yeah, Wagner Hezbollah synthesis.

It's just like, I do kind of fuck with that.

I do, I do kind of fuck with that Mr.

Worldwide shit.

And by the way, can we make so I want to make an AI song, and it's like international love, AI.

Yo, appreciate you.

Elite, thank you so much, bro.

Thank you.

We should make a remix of that, but make it like a Nasheed.

We make Pit Bulls, Mr.

Worldwide, international love, make it hard style, make it a Nasheed.

And that will be our anthem.

That will be the new international.

If someone can do that with AI, I put the challenge upon you to do that with AI.

Make it Mr.

Worldwide International Love.

Change the lyrics to something halal, 'cause it's some pretty haram lyrics in there.

You know, but make make it into a Nasheed.

You can keep we put it, we put it okay.

Maybe, maybe not.

You say Nasheed, and then we put it down like New York City.

And then the FBI is like, What do you mean you put it down like New York City?

And this shit's a Nasheed.

What do you mean by that?

What do you mean by you put it down like New York?

What did you do in New York?

What do you mean in New York?

What did you put down?

Right?

That would attract some pretty negative attention, to be honest.

Because it basically, who knows what we're referring to.

You know, the twin towers.

I mean, I don't know.

We got to be careful about that.

Anyway, we don't want to ti we don't want to be anti-Semitic and steal Israel's credit.

We don't want to be anti-Semitic and uh

You know, um

suppress and downplay Zionist Jewish con uh contributions and inventions and achievements.

That would that would be quite anti-Semitic.

So we have to be careful about that.

Anyway, some can someone make this?

Can anyone make it?

I remember I asked someone to make a remix.

Shout out to them.

They're great.

But I was like, yo, could you make the Red Army is the strongest with this AI thing?

They're like, yeah.

And then I listen to it and it's like, Mr.

Krabs army, Mystic.

And I'm like, bro, why is he saying Mr.

Krabs army?

Like, what is this even Russian?

What is this?

Like, why?

And it's just like, make it good.

Make it go hard.

Through Suno.

Yeah, make it go hard.

It don't have to be like that.

Right.

Uh

So

Yeah, so that's kinda what I'm thinking.

Um

Those are my thoughts.

I don't know.

Inter Hazbul, internazbull, kinda inter-nazbull.

It's just like, I'm not a nationalist.

Nationalism is just kind of gay.

It's just kind of like.

It's just kind of like.

Coping like I'm a nationalist, I'm gonna be in my little box.

It's like I'm about that Mr.

Worldwide shit, I'm about that um global shit.

I'm a globalist, I'm a Bolshevik globalist, I'm a I am a globalist.

Wagner globalist.

I'm a Wagner globalist.

Fuck, that goes hard as fuck.

I'm a Wagner globalist, you know?

Nationalism is just kind of like some coping.

You know what nationalism is?

Nationalism is like the kid raised by their grandparents.

That

Is like, I wish we could just go back to the 50s, like that type of shit.

It's just really like autistic.

Can I say that, Drake?

Nationalism is extremely autistic because you're basically like, it's like a Sonachu medallion.

You're like focusing on this part without having this universal thing.

You're just focusing on a part and being hyper-fixated on it.

And then, because it's not dynamic or transcendent enough, you start bringing in anime girls.

To give it the dynamism and and and whatever that it doesn't have, right?

And that's basically like the story of all the Nasbull LARP on the internet.

And it's like, we got to be about that dynamic globality.

And we are internationalists, we are on some globality type of shit.

And uh interhasboll

Inter Hosbull gang, you know?

Inter Nosbull gang, inter hosbull.

I don't know, like, I don't know why.

Internosbull, it's kind of like, you know what?

Guilty is charged.

It's like, we are so, we are international, especially infrared.

They're like, they're internosbulls.

It's kind of like, it has the same punk rock that Lomanov types had.

The kid, what's up?

But it's internationalist, right?

Because what are they going to say?

Even if they clip me and they say, oh, you know, what are you going to say?

Okay, intern Osbol.

What is literally, they're gonna be like, oh, yeah, they're fascists, they're inter-Nazbulls.

It's like, okay, they're internationalist Bolsheviks.

So, what about that as Nazi?

That's it.

Then they're gonna be like, Oh, you know what?

They're internationalist fascists.

That honestly, the line of attack of our enemies is unironically that we are internationalist fascists.

Which makes no fucking sense.

Their unironic line of attack is that we are internationalist fascists.

Um

That's actually their line of attack internationalist fascists.

I'm kinda like, okay, you're calling us internationalist fascists.

That's your line of attack.

Um

And I'm like, well, okay, well, what about it?

Is how could it be fascist then?

Like, where's the oh, the tr transphobia?

Oh, all right.

Whatever that means.

I mean, like, all right.

Or or telling jokes about it, I don't know.

Jokes, bad jokes.

Um, yeah, the Russian Nazbulls were pretty punk rock.

They were pretty edgy.

They were pretty young.

That's another thing.

They were very young, youth-led.

That's kinda what gave them the edge that they had.

What can I say?

Uh by the way, Donald Parkinson, let's talk about Donald Parkinson.

Everyone loves talking about Donald Parkinson, right?

Okay, Donald Parkinson.

Um

The spineless

Holy LARP

Holy LARP.

Okay, so Donald, um Donald got you know, big boy Donald, he got 7.4 thousand likes.

I wonder who's liking Donald's tweet.

Totally I mean, does Donald shameless?

Is he he's literally a lightning rod for the Mossad and for Zionists and for fascists and for Nazis to counter signal us?

He just offers himself as a lightning rod, as a prostitute for Israel, for Mossad, for feds, for fascists to counter signal the Communist Party.

And uh

He can't, if only, has there any has there ever been anything Mugg has done that's gotten 7.4 thousand likes on social media?

Is there anything Mugg has done that has gotten this level of exposure?

Why is it that Donald Parkinson can only get exposure at this level by ankle biting the Communist Party?

And the exp and the support he's being given is from Zionists.

And from fascists, from the right.

Uh and then look, okay, do you want to make fun of us, Donald?

Why are you making fun of us when this is you?

By the way, I'm going to just nuke Donald right now.

Donald, you can't call us LARPers.

You want me to prove it and nuke him right now?

I can just bomb him.

You want me to.

Once you want me to bomb Donald Parkinson, just fucking bomb him.

Okay.

Donald, you can't call us LARPers.

Because there's nothing we have to LARP.

We are actually the ones creating our entire fucking

Vision.

The actions.

What actions can we emulate?

Whose drip can we steal?

It's all ours.

Are we.

Operating from the inheritance of the past, yes.

But how are we how could we we be LARPers, we the unprecedented, be LARPers?

What are we LARPing?

We're in fucking uncharted territory to we're the ones on this bitch creating this shit.

Nobody's fucking done what we've done.

Nobody looks like what we look like.

Nobody's got the sty We're LARPing ourselves, exactly.

Who are we LARPing?

What role are we playing?

How could it be a game if the role don't even fucking exist, bitch boy?

Meanwhile, Donald, I've read the same fucking books that you have.

Mac McNair and Lars Lee and all that, you're LARPing a turn of the century Social Democrat.

You know, before the second a uh the pre war, Second International, you have in your head

Created the delusion that we are living in the turn of the century right now, that the DSA is the equivalent of social democracy at the turn of the century.

And that you the the you're gonna be the next Bolsheviks.

Just keep voting for more Democrats and you'll be there, right?

You are actually LARPing.

You're you're like there's a playbook that you're following.

You are LARPing.

You are LARPing.

Now, and maybe he by LARP he means you guys are putting on theatrics, that this is theatrical.

Okay, is there a single state or serious non-state actor whose propaganda is non-theatrical?

Have you seen Hezbollah hype videos?

Have you seen Iranian propaganda?

Have you seen Chinese propaganda?

You think it's not staged?

You think their propaganda isn't theatrical and staged?

Do are you a fucking retard?

Like, yeah, of course, yes, we are making a video.

We are absolutely doing, yes, we're taking into consideration the camera shot, how it looks, the angle.

Of course, we are with this video.

It's propaganda, yes, that we made and produced.

That's what propaganda looks like and is.

You're calling that LARP.

It's not LARP, it's just propaganda.

LARP is being like you, who actually genuinely is playing the role of a turn-of-the-century social democrat.

And getting a sense of certainty and guarantee that everything's going to turn out fine because you're playing this pre-established role.

There's no pre-established role any of us can play.

Think about that.

What pre-established role can the ACP play?

Genuinely, what pre-established role exists for us to emulate that we're emulating?

Give us the pre-established role we're emulating.

We created this shit.

We are unprecedented.

There's never we're not following a fucking playbook.

We're writing the fucking playbook.

You understand?

Nobody's fucking nobody's doing what we've done.

Nobody's ever done what we've fucking done.

Hell, the reason you retards call us feds is you've never seen what it looks like for somebody to write their own fucking playbook.

We're not following a playbook written by someone else, so you think it must have been written by the government.

Meanwhile, you don't fucking know.

We're the ones who fucking wrote it.

That's what it means to embrace history, that's what it means to open yourself to historical outcomes outside your control.

For the purposes of what?

Advancing the experience and knowledge and skill of a future generation of revolutionaries who cannot LARP, who cannot pretend they're turn of the century Social Democrats like Donald does.

I see what these mug people look like, man.

They literally wear early 1900s berets because they actually think they're turn of the century Social Democrats.

In our age.

We don't have that.

We really don't even have that.

Genuinely.

And yeah, I'm not talking about this century, I'm talking about from the 1800s to the 1900s.

That's that turn of the century.

That's what he's LARPing.

Don't talk that shit on us.

Why are you talking shit on us?

Who are you?

What are you?

Nothing.

You're a nothing.

You'll never be anything.

You're worthless.

Young Soviet, what's up?

Strail Stanny, what's up bro with the ten?

Appreciate you bro.

What's going on?

Can you tell me what a kick is?

What is this thing where you can earn kicks?

What is a kick?

How much money is a single kick worth?

I don't fucking know.

Don't fucking ask me shit.

Like I'm supposed to fucking know.

Fifty shekels sounds about right.

We're about to transition into our uh

Every time I stream I'm so fucking intense and violent and fucking scary.

Um straight up, I'm like

Straight up, I'm on some fucking uh scare the scare the hose type shit, honestly.

I just love scaring the hoes on stream.

Um, I'm such a scary fucking person, right?

Anyway, let's get on TikTok.

Are we ready for the debates?

One's if you're ready for the debates.

Okay, but if you actually meet me in real life, I'm not like this with my comrades.

I'm only like this when I can rage at the void.

They got two why are there two phones?

Why are you asking too many questions, you fat bitch?

Gorilla, what's up, bro?

Uh yeah, I'm a crazy cult leader.

Orvo, what's up, bro?

Good question.

Gorilla, what's up?

So, Orvo, we actually.

Or why the fuck were you not at the function, by the way?

You know, it's just kind of like.

It's just kinda like we go there, Orvo's not there, I'm just like

What n actually who from Texas was there, n almost no one.

Literally nobody from Te does anyone from Texas even show up?

Uh I'm just saying Orvo if you like in person we would tell you in person we have plans though 100% we have plans okay I just tell you we gonna we have other forms of communication

That don't depend on the internet.

He anyway, uh, let's uh you never heard about it.

Yeah, that's fucking crazy.

Uh who's gonna be in New York though?

Y'all y'all know about what's going on in New York soon?

Y'all hear about it?

New York's pretty fucking far from y'all though.

Who who's gonna be in uh New York, you know, and uh I'm not gonna s spoil what it is, but there's something going on in New York soon.

I don't know.

Y'all from Texas should pull up.

I don't know.

It's fucking expensive, though.

I don't know.

What's going on in New York?

Ask your chapter.

Ask your CC rep what's going on in New York.

Straight up.

Ask your CC rep, they'll know.

Alright.

That's gonna be the next uh

Event

that we're gonna do.

Anyway, guys, uh

Let me uh let me start the TikTok debates.

Well, remember last time

Guys, I ended the stream.

I was straight for five hours I was debating Autus, Logic Lord, Autus.

Yeah, Laura, just let me know.

Y'all, y'all y'all rarely message me, all right?

Let me know.

Let me know the next time y'all come up, just keep asking me.

I spent five hours debating with the Autus.

Um

Dallas?

I didn't know y'all Dallas?

Fuck Dallas.

I'm gonna go to Dallas.

But anyway, um yeah, anyway, and then my flight was at 8 A.M.

So I ended the stream at when?

Three?

And then I packed.

And then I just didn't sleep.

And then at five I went to the airport 'cause I knew the TSA closing.

So I didn't sleep at all.

And then they they you know, the the uh the Friday before the uh event, everyone showed up had showed up.

I was literally the life of the party.

Hold on.

I'm actually the life of the party when you think about it.

I was the life of the party.

And then maybe if I'm good, you can say I'm the life of the party, the ACP.

But the house, I don't know if I call it a house party, but the get-together were like we had what 20, 30 people, 40 people.

I had no sleep, and I look at how much energy I had.

I just want everyone to admire that.

Remember that stream I did five hours with those Logic Lords?

I never rested.

I went straight to St.

Louis.

And then um

I was

Absolutely.

Whoever says I'm antisocial, remember when Danny Shaw said that?

He's like this dark, twisted, antisocial.

And bro, it's just because I didn't fuck with you.

You know what I mean?

It's like, yeah, I don't fuck with everybody.

Sorry.

Uh I don't fuck with you fed ass bitches.

It's like that song Whole Gang with Payroll Giovanni in it.

Bitches wanna taste of the prize, but can't look straight in the eyes.

I'm trying to think that you're a snake in disguise.

I'm starting to think that you a snake in disguise.

You know, that's the type of shit I'm on sometimes.

Anyway, y'all, we're gonna be starting the debates.

Fuck.

Um

I will never say

Works.

Good, ones if we're good.

Ones, twos if we're good, twos if we're good, twos if we're good, twos if we're good, twos if we're good, twos if we're good, all right.

Some actual unironic fascist.

A real fascist

Named Tyler.

Hey, how you doing?

Uh I'm doing fine, but what what is this LARP?

How old are you?

I'm twenty two years old.

All right.

And why are you

You are a self-described fascist?

Yeah, I am.

Why do you uh adopt a failed ideology?

How is it failed necessarily?

'Cause the whole thing was like we're the toughest, meanest, baddest guys ever and then they fought one war and lost.

That's what you think fascism is?

No, I'm just simplifying it.

So

So you think because we lost a war that's a failed ideology?

Well, if the whole point of fascism is like we're going to, you know, achieve this kind of Nietzschean ubermensch.

We're going to be the superhumans.

We're going to be, you know, we're going to treat the state as a military and might is right and we're going to assert our dominance and conquer and enslave others who are inferior to us.

So where in the doctrine of fascism does it say this?

In the practice of fascism, Mussolini invaded Ethiopia for no reason.

Then he invaded Libya.

He invaded his Slavic neighbors, wanted to subjugate them.

Albanians.

That's not a core part of the fascist ideology.

The way Mussolini saw politics internally, where he's just like, we're going to just like beat people we disagree with into submission.

And just because we can get away with it, that makes us justified.

And I'm not saying politics doesn't involve suppressing your enemies, but even communists had moral justifications.

Anyway, Mussolini's like, we're just going to do it because we can.

Like the whole we can ideology, like Obama, right?

Yes, we can.

He was like, yes, we can go invade Ethiopia.

We can do all these things.

And just because we can, you know?

And then that's the whole like premise in a way.

And then they fought one real war and then lost.

So that so you think like fascism is being your o of like uh opposition and to submission?

Um, I wouldn't reduce it to that, but I think that in practice it was a way for the bourgeois state to do what constitutional republics cannot with respect to the suppression of dissidents.

Okay, so do you think like classical aberration is a bad thing?

Um for who?

For the bourgeoisie, it's great.

For the proletariat, it's treachery.

How would say treachery for the proletariat?

Uh because class collaboration is acquiescing and submitting to the principle of a pla of a class whose existence contradicts your own.

So you think the bourgeoisie uh contradicts the proletariat?

Yes, fundamentally, I do.

And even Mussolini had to

Sorry, I got a call there.

Mussolini rhetorically agreed with that, by the way, which is why he constantly postured and made it seem like fascism was somehow post bourgeois and it was more proletarian and that Italy had become a proletarian

I think he left.

What happened I didn't disagree.

I didn't uh I mean yes, I disagree.

I didn't disconnect him.

Okay, we'll bring we'll wait for him to come back.

Maybe he won't.

We'll bring uh Sphinx.

Go ahead, Sphinx.

Hey, what's going on, brother?

How are you?

What's up?

Hey, man, I just um I just want to ask a little bit about your guys' work uh with your with your party.

Um I think uh I saw that Jackson is part of your party too.

You guys are founders?

Yeah, he's a co-founder.

Okay, so I just wanted to ask um uh w how much uh progress have you guys been making in um adding peop like, you know, getting people to like, you know, follow the message and uh follow your guys' party and give support.

It's been a big monster, you've been pretty steady and pretty explosive in 2026.

We found out that we had six to seven thousand peop I mean six, seven, right?

Literally six to seven thousand people um who tried joining but couldn't because of technical errors and so gave up.

So we are much less than that's actually crazy, right?

But yeah, we're growing pretty steadily.

Okay.

So you guys, I mean, are you guys hoping to get to a point where you can actually run for have one of your members run for president or something?

No.

No, what is this?

Elementary school politics?

Like, what is that?

No, no, I'm not trying to be funny here or anything.

I'm actually, I'm not exactly sure what you guys are doing, but I'm not here to challenge you anything.

I'm just here to ask.

What's your main goal here, if I may ask?

Our goal is to build a.

Preeminent, you know.

Organization of the American Proletariat.

Mm and uh you guess oh like I mean I I'm assuming because we think we don't we no longer

Have confidence that the current state is going to last.

Within our lifetimes forever, and we think that there needs to be an organizational framework that survives the coming collapse.

I'm with that, I'm with that, makes sense to me.

how much I mean, how like um but in terms of actual progress uh achieving such uh you know, your goals, like, um, I don't know what's holding you guys back, how how how well are you doing in terms of like your own like how much you've been hoping to achieve?

Um it's been pretty steady growth.

But uh we're focused on building up resources, which we have to do 'cause we don't get support from the bourgeoisie.

Uh-huh.

Are you in the US, if I may ask?

No, I'm in Belgium.

Okay, so uh you guys um

Uh what's it called?

I I don't know if Jackson is trying to get into politics in uh in America, but I was just curious though if he 'cause I know uh if I'm not mistaken, he's an American citizen.

If he b with all the stuff with with all the stuff that he um you know tweets about and publicizes, is he will he be arrested if he comes to the US in the current situation?

There's no current warrant for his arrest.

Yeah.

But we suspect he will be harassed and potentially deprived of travel.

Which would interfere with his career.

Okay.

So so are you guys more, um, international or are you guys focusing on the US as well?

Is it um

Aware internosbuls.

Okay.

Alright well I appreciate you answering my question.

Best of luck brother to you and uh the party.

Nicholas says he knows a little secret about the ACP.

Oh, we love gossip over here.

What's the secret?

This is some low testosterone.

Estradenic tells about the secret.

Oh my God, there's secrets.

There's the master of eunuchs.

NYC Catholic.

Go ahead bro, what's the secret?

Alright, so.

I believe that okay, so I want to ask you one question, right?

All right.

Why do you follow why do you follow teachings of Dugan?

I don't.

I don't.

I've I've been hearing a lot of like um tha um things about um you guys following teachings of Dugan.

Are you are you ML?

Oh, yeah, yeah.

What are the things you heard about Stalin when you first heard his name?

Oh yeah, I heard him as a dictator.

Right.

So so there's a you know, if you're actually a real communist, they're just gonna the things that you hear about the a real communist are not gonna reflect reality in the system we live in.

So, you know, it's no excuse to not do your due diligence.

Okay.

What about your homophobic comments?

What about that?

Which ones?

I made so many, I need to remember which ones.

You made so many.

What?

Remember what you said about like the woman?

Like, woman should be in, like, the whatever?

But what is wait, what is well, hold on.

Before we talk about that.

What about the homophobia?

Queer queer liberation is with class liberation.

What does that mean, though?

Because they're my queer liberation mean because I'm thinking there's a bunch of queer people locked in a cage right now, and they were just gonna open the cage and they're we liberated you and they're gonna like spread their wings and fly.

Like, what does that mean?

You're liberating them?

I'm just tell me what it means.

Meaning someone could finally marry, not be pr um not be perfect.

China doesn't believe in gay marriage, and but we already have gay marriage in America.

Okay, I I got you, but America already has gay marriage, so h what are you liberating that's not already been liberated?

Amer queer people still face oppression at i in everyday life.

They still just like um African Americans.

So do fat people.

So you're saying that we shouldn't li that we're saying that we shouldn't liberate queer people.

Should we liberate fat people?

That's it.

That's that's entirely.

Let me ask you a question: Do ugly are ugly people oppressed as well and these microaggressions?

Because we're talking we go from something political, usually liberation in Marxism.

It means something concretely political or even economic.

But you're talking about like vague cultural sensibilities, right?

So, according to cultural sensibilities, clavicular talks about the halo effect, right?

Where ugly people get treated worse than pretty people with pretty privilege.

So, should we liberate ugly people as well?

Clavigular is a racist.

Why are you bringing him into the conversation?

Yeah, he's a racist, but still, you know, I would agree that ugly people are treated worse than would you disagree with that?

If you're like ugly, let's say you're ugly as shit and you walk into a KFC and, you know, and the worker is sitting there at the thing.

I mean, like, you know, they might spit in your food.

They might say, this person's so nasty and gross.

I mean, but then if you're so good looking and you walk in, hey, handsome, like, you don't know what's going on, right?

So, isn't that oppression in the same way?

Why not?

That's not a problem.

What if you didn't commit a crime?

Like the cops run up to the scene of a crime and there's two people.

There's someone with the halo effect who's great looking.

There's like a guy who looks like an ugly dog's ass.

And he's like just looks like an ugly piece of shit.

And the police just tackle him and beat the shit out of him.

Which like I c I mean, I'm well, let's be honest, like that stuff happens.

Sh o should ugly people be liberated?

So, you're making this argument to say that queer liberation is not is is shouldn't be important?

Well, the only example of liberation you're telling me is that liberation from distinct treatment within culture, not within the law, not even within economics, because it's been made illegal to discriminate on that basis already.

So, what is left to liberate except the fact that some people might um

I don't even know how widespread this is, by the way.

I mean, there's so many gay millionaires who are like wealthy as hell, who are extremely wealthy, actually.

I would say maybe on average they're more wealthy, probably.

I don't know if I could say that with certainty.

But I just don't understand where is the oppression now that you're talking about?

And how could it not also be applied to ugly people?

The oppr the oppression the oppression that queer and um queer people face queer okay okay queer people face unseen oppression yeah is there any way we could refer to it or talk about it in a way that we we can hear about it maybe okay first they are seen and look even by the government that's why there's queer conversion camps and everything like that they are literally they're literally put down by the government as something that isn't that isn't real or something that needs to be um fixed

The the government that had the pride flag on the White House?

The government that's in office right now, that's what Trump is.

The current administration, which is moderately less pro-LGBT than the Democrats were, okay, who put the pride flag on the, you know, on drones and on bombs and in military bases and stuff.

This was the norm for the regime for a decade.

But by the way, I want to ask you something.

What camps are you talking about?

Um, queer um queer conversion camps.

Yeah, wh where wh what camps?

The one the ones that like Trump fu um the one that Trump funds.

Where?

You're asking for the location of where they're funded.

Yeah, I've never heard of that.

How have I seen I've never heard of queer camps for to to imprison queer people in camps.

Oh my goodness.

You can it's not queer camps and prisons, queer people.

You're the convert to convert them.

Where I've never heard of that.

You're strawman in my argument, you know.

No, no, I don't convert them.

I never heard of that.

There there's literally camps that are made they're funded by the government to convert queer people.

That is a you could Google that, you could research that, that is a real thing.

Are you talking about children or adults?

Um, I believe both children and adults.

So the government is taking adults and putting them in conversion camps.

Or I believe it is children.

So it's exclusively children?

Yes.

Um

Yeah, I d I mean so that but that's it then, right?

That's the only thing you would say is if we just put an end to that, that's queer liberation, right?

That ch children uh no longer can

Be sent to uh conversion therapy camps.

But okay.

I wanna get back on the Dugan topic.

Alright, so we we're not really committing to the whole queer liberation thing, got it?

All right.

Okay, well um I've heard I lit I've literally heard that you you subscribe to Dugan's ideas, um a Eur Eurasian traditionalist fascist.

Um I don't subscribe to Dugan's ideas and also those are not his ideas.

You don't subscribe to his ideas me.

Okay.

Like, alright.

Like, oh my goodness.

You don't subscribe to those ideas, but you, alright.

What do you mean?

Like, what do you mean that's not his ideas?

Dugan is not a fascist.

And.

Dugan is literally a fascist.

He's a conservative fascist.

He's not a fascist.

He's not a fascist uh in in any Marxist materialist sense of the word.

uh the way that the Comintern defied fascism, he couldn't qualify as a fascist.

He himself uh does not regard himself as a fascist.

The reason why this libel has become prolific in the West is because during the nineteen nineties,

Dugin was associated with the Nas Bols, the National Bolsheviks.

and the context behind them

Was that the Yeltsin government created this kind of boogeyman of a red-brown alliance?

and you know the twin totalitarian l to totalitarianism model.

So as a way to protest the American imperialist you know financial occupation of Russia

Young people from punk rock milieus started adopting the label Nazbull to kind of provoke.

and troll liberals basically.

And part of this was Dugan in the 1990s who wrote an article called Fascism Borderless and Red, where in the article he says, you know, Nazi Germany and fascist Italy were controlled by capitalists.

These were national capitalist states that didn't live to the tr ideal of a true fascism.

And a true fascism has to be borderless and it has to be communist and it has to whatever.

So it was just this kind of nonsensical artistic nonsense he was doing.

But uh as Dugan grew older, he distanced himself from the Nausbulls.

and distance himself altogether from uh third positionism as like the receptacle of his very uniquely, contextually defined post Soviet Russian world view.

And, you know, started calling himself a Eurasianist and then a fourth positionist.

Um but never was he truly in any sincere or real sense a fascist.

Now, what w how I would qualify if someone's a fascist is do they um grift off of xenophobic um you know uh uh sentiment, which he never did, that even the Nosbols and Dugin were always very protective and defensive over Russia's religious and ethnic minorities, and that there was a big anti-immigrant phenomena and tendency in Russia, mind you.

And then, okay, well, did he advocate for some kind of, you know, um support for the uh you know the the imperialist machine?

And well, the imperialist machine

In Russia was the foreign occupation by oligarchs, financial oligarchs.

That was the objective reality of imperialism in Russia.

And Dugin and the Nosbuls were fighting the oligarchs.

So they were genuinely a revolutionary force in Russia.

Like like their ideology or don't.

But they you can't say they were fascists.

They weren't hired thugs of the regime that was m meant to destroy the communist movement.

That's the purpose.

I want to be clear about something.

I can tell you're young, but I'm going to tell this to you anyway.

There's no such thing as fascism without a Communist movement to suppress.

The only reason you had fascism in Italy or in Germany was 'cause they had very large and powerful socialist and communist movements.

And fascism was the ideology created to fight that and suppress that.

So don't go around calling people fascists just because they have beards and they're meanies and they're tough and they're strong and they're you know they they're scary.

That's not what fascism is.

says Dugan's ideas are literally they want to put the world back into ending neoliberal orders and put the world back into traditionalism.

That that is not the same as fascism.

Conquer he has an expansionist worldview, which is a very fascist idea.

It's a very fascist idea.

I would say it's not inherently fascist in the context of Russia because the Soviet Union was illegally dissolved in the first place.

And moreover, uh every case of expansionism

Has always come from the defense of minorities, whether they're Russians or non-Russians for that matter, who were left defenseless and at the mercy of petty nationalists in the post-Soviet context.

So, in Georgia, it was the Ossetians.

Not Russians, they're an Iranic people, but they were being harassed by the petty nationalism of Georgia.

And Russia came to their defense.

Russia is a multi-national framework, civilization, which doesn't tolerate small-minded petty nationalism.

These post-Soviet republics were infected with this balkanizing, petty nationalist disease that culminates in the Ukraine Maidan.

I've been to Russia.

Russia is a multi-ethnic nation.

It's not a nation just for ethnic Russians.

It's a civilizational framework that recognizes and acknowledges the harmonious coexistence of different peoples.

If Dugan advocates an expansionism of Russia with respect to the post-Soviet space,

um which I don't think he does unilaterally.

I think this is fully justified.

I mean, the context is that the Soviet Union is illegally dissolved, the state collapses and is given entirely to oligarchs, and then NATO expands.

Why did NATO expand?

For what?

So Russia is brought to a point the Russian people are occupied.

And their state had been destroyed.

In this context, Dugan style expansionism isn't the same as Germany or Italy deciding that they want to enslave and subjugate other nations and peoples because they're inferior.

In this context, it is the restoration of a civilization that had been unjustifiably

dismantled and destroyed and preyed upon by financial powers.

Alright, well, let me address your comments that I um have.

Um so this is in quote by the way.

I'm not saying this because I support this.

Um this is your comment.

Shove shove the effing psychological to your fucking yuppity faggot ass right now.

You're a faggot and I don't want to hear from a thing from you.

That is what you said.

That that is directly what you said.

Okay.

Is there no context that would that you would find this acceptable?

No, that's like saying the n-word.

Like, there's no context for that to be used.

I just disagree.

It's like I refer back to the South Park episode.

It's like that.

Oh, so I disagree that being homophobic is.

No, I just use the bad word.

It doesn't mean anything inherently.

I was just homophobic for a little bit, guys.

I'm not that bad.

Okay, well I just used a bad word.

It doesn't really mean anything.

But anyway, the reason I said that w do you think that I was like uh engaging in a hate crime?

Like that's that was a gay guy I was saying that?

Oh god, I got I got violated for hate speech.

Thanks for that, by the way.

For 10 minutes.

Violation, uh, repeated violations could resolve from remove.

I'm going to have to remove you in a second, but um I'm just going to have to remove you, dude.

It's telling me to remove you.

If they remain, they'll be I gotta remove them.

All right, it it gave me the restriction.

And proof of that is on the yellow website or the green website.

Anyway, to respond to what you're saying before I bring up the next person, that was to a member of the ACP Politburo who for weeks was acting strangely and erratically, hostile and constantly like maneuvering.

For mysterious reasons, I came back from Russia and then we held a whole s meeting Friday for like five, six hours where they critici uh, they were given all the time in the world to voice their concerns, their criticisms of me, they had a big problem with me.

Very vague, but we gave them the opportunity to say whatever they wanted, and then they on their own accord said, Okay, I think your response satisfies me.

So a week later we had a meeting.

He said everything's good.

We had a meeting where we wanted to just get to continue our leadership business.

Then he ambushed us with a resignation, where he wanted to do this theatrical thing where he's going to read like a two-hour essay he wrote and ambush us with his resignation and try to make us all feel so bad that he's leaving.

And I basically said, okay, this is not the time and place for this.

You want to quit?

Just go quit.

Then he kept pushing and pushing and insulting me and attacking me.

I had dealt with him for weeks.

Dealing with very vague, nonsensical, I just oh, Haas, you're you're uh there's a big problem with Haas.

No, he could never say what his problem was.

Uh, okay, so I th I took it personally.

I thought maybe this guy just doesn't like me, so I got pissed.

But then later we found out he he really, you know, something had happened to him, knock on the door, where he was compelled or convinced that he has to wreck the party.

And uh so he he was acting under duress basically.

So, literally, a guy basically, um, we think got a knock on the door by the feds to wreck our party, was intentionally.

trying to waste our time and cause problems for us, and I got pissed and crashed out.

And uh socialism for all uh clipped it out of context.

Because he's a really good faith actor.

Who you should definitely trust, right?

Right.

But I did use a bad word.

Because you know why I called him that?

Because he's like, You will sit down and listen, boy.

And I was like, What?

So anyway, flat, go ahead.

Hey, how's it going?

I'm 25.

I'm just curious kind of a little bit about the ACP because I've heard a bit about you guys, but I've heard some mixed things.

I'm a communist myself, and I always like to have some friendly-hearted, you know, let discussion.

Like, they might be able to get into some stuff.

I want to pull up y'all's program real quick because I had some questions.

Jacob, I accepted you, but then you disconnected, so you have to go next.

I don't know what to tell you.

Go ahead.

Um, yeah, like I was saying, um, we've got some questions about your program and just, you know, if I was if you could tell me a bit about your party and why you think someone should be involved with it.

Let's drop a ten, y'all.

Um.

I would say if you're a Communist with a capital C unapologetically, meaning you're not doing these cope detours,

If you're like actually a communist with a capital C, you're not like saying, Oh, I'm a communist but Stalin was bad, you're like actually a communist, I would say there's just no other alternative to us.

For better or for worse.

And that, you know, if you think we were doing something wrong, you could do it better.

You could make your case to us.

We were pretty open.

Um we're pretty flexible.

We don't really have like gatekeepers who are preventing work from being done like other parties do.

We just

We're not ruled by boomers or Gen X people or millennials even.

We're ruled youth-led.

And it's a pretty open door, pretty blank canvas in a lot of ways for how do we move forward as a con we're learning from experience most of all.

Yeah.

But I just don't think there's an alternative to us.

I mean, if it's not us, who else?

You know?

That's fair.

I mean, we're in a very interesting era on the left in this country.

I mean, the left hardly exists, to be honest.

Like, you'd probably agree that the DSA is hard to even call left at all.

They're just supporting the Democrats.

Same thing with the USA.

We're seeing all this pressure for people to join a communist movement and people are looking for something serious out there.

And you seem pretty serious about this.

But I'm curious what you said, like capital C communists, meaning that you said something about Stalin there.

And then also I've got a question about point 17 on your program, promotion of American civilization.

I'm not really sure what exactly what you guys mean by that.

Yeah, we just think that, um

We don't really have a clearly defined American nation, you know?

And hold on, one sec.

Carlos, what's up?

Appreciate you, bro.

Yeah, we don't really have a clearly defined national existence as Americans.

And we want to kind of discover a unique civilization on this land by this people.

All the people here, right?

And we're very open to what that potentially could or has to look like.

And we just think we should stop emulating Europe and looking to Europe for guidance on how we should be.

And we should kind of.

Embrace our geography, right?

Okay, interesting.

I'm I'm still not really exactly sure what you mean by that, but i if if I had to guess like what it means like you could have like a uh multi-country, multi like racial, ethnic background kind of American culture 'cause when I think of America, I think of we want one American civilization that is a fusion of all those things.

Um

I would say, like this: like China, remotes Chinese civilization, Confucius and the classics and stuff.

We want to do that, we just don't have it.

So we need to also simultaneously build it.

Okay.

Well, I I see where you're coming from with that.

Yeah, there's definitely different ideas and I think part of society and being able to move forward in a in a positive way is having a a unified national myth or international myth, like kind of a I wouldn't say it's a a myth.

I wouldn't say it's a myth.

May maybe not a myth.

Actually, yeah, you're right about that.

Like a a collective understanding of who we are and what we're fighting for.

And right now in the US, it like you said, it i like it is a myth really in this country now and it's it's all over the place.

It's not consistent and I think that gives a level of disorientation to people today.

Yeah.

So what would your p what was your position on the Soviet Union?

Would you say you're more of a hardline supporter of them or like critical support?

I I would say critical support is definitely how what I think of them.

But I'm curious what basically thinks because that's really important.

Critical of everything, but to an extent uncritical, you know, like unconditional.

Like, okay, if Brezhnev was around and things popped off between Brezhnev and the imperialist bloc, I understand he's a revisionist.

I understand what de-Stalinization was totally unjustified.

But if that, you know, if that conflict happened, am I going to be critical?

I mean, no, I'm going to tie me to a missile and send me to NATO.

Well, yeah, I mean, I feel it's the same way.

So, like, for example, I really like following a lot of Trotsky's lines on this.

I think he's got a pretty good analysis on the Soviet Union.

But if I was there when the Great Patriotic War started, like, you bet that I'd be out there on the front lines just as much as anyone else, right?

At the end of the day, I can't agree with the Trotsky, I think.

I'm sorry.

It's just.

It's like mentioning the shaitan and expecting me not to react.

Just casually dropping Shaitan right there.

You just can't you can't just be casually dropping Shaitan and expect me to be chill with it.

I'm sorry, you know?

It's like Trotsky.

I mean like he's just randomly dropping Shaitan in here.

And uh

Can't have that.

It's like casually referencing the mustache painter man.

Anyway, where's the other guy who wanted to

Where's the where's that guy who requested?

Who um said that he uh ACP is unserious.

Um, but what does it mean to be serious today?

You know, think about that.

I feel like the only thing that means serious just means action.

It doesn't mean like I'm gonna act a certain way on TikTok.

Yeah, no, it's just stupid.

Like, oh, you're serious because of how you act on TikTok.

I just kind of feel like that's nonsense.

The only thing that determines your seriousness is your commitment.

It's not how you act on social media that determines your seriousness.

It's what are your commitments?

What do you actually do?

Can't tolerate discussion because you can't compete with Trotsky's ideas.

Um

I don't need to compete with ideas that have no basis or foundation.

I mean, there's nothing to correct for.

It's a dead end.

We know what Trotsky looks like in real life.

We know what Trotskyism looks like.

It's a dead end.

I see no opening.

I see nothing to to debate about.

Why be a Trotsky?

The burden is on okay, you can request again, but I'm putting the burden on you.

Why should I be a Trotskyist?

Why should I accept Trotsky's ideas?

You know?

I have to put the burden on you.

Alright.

Yo, big respect for letting me back up here.

Well, uh I think the main thing is uh socialism in one country versus permanent revolution.

But you know how it's a logical fallacy or contradiction?

Well everything's contradictory.

What do you mean?

Yeah, but I mean it in the sense it's like a self nega self-negating, uh self-undermining notion of permanent revolution.

Okay.

And it's in the etymology, okay.

Well, let's start here.

What's a revolution?

The transformation of society.

Yeah, but what's a revolution?

Wouldn't you say that is what it is?

I could work with that, but I think it's so much more simple.

What is etymologically like what's the actual definition of a revolution?

Oh, like it goes back to dialectics, right?

It's one of these brief periods of significant upheaval or something, a transformation from one thing to something else.

Something mutually exclusive before and after, something like that.

It's way more exactly way more.

There's like a root meaningfulness of that word that is so much simpler to the point where it doesn't only have to be applied to historical phenomena.

Wha what are you getting at?

Do cars have revolutions?

Yeah.

Right.

So do you know what do you know what a revolution is?

A rotation?

Yeah.

Exactly.

Like a cycle.

That's a revolution.

How could that be permanent?

Well, the permanent revolution is a permanent cycling, circling of progress in this spiral that moves forward.

It's like a double helix moving forward, this constant rotation.

Okay, I could work with that.

But here's the problem: it can it the problem is.

Yurt said progress, the permanent revolution of progress.

Progress always has to acquire a qualitative determination.

I agree that the development of nature and history is unceasing, never ends.

But

The specific

um trans transformations do end.

The transformation of one thing into another thing is the movement of one determination to another determination.

The transformation as such cannot last forever.

Now transformation in the abstract is eternal in this sense.

But when we're speaking about the particulars, you're talking about the transformation of one thing into another.

When you're speaking about revolutions, you're talking about a specific revolution, which of course must end and cannot be permanent.

Does that mean the process of change ends forever?

No.

But how can we speak of change?

And this is how Trotsky doesn't understand dialectics.

How can we talk about change without determinations?

If everything is just flux and everything is just change, we lose the point of reference to the things that are changing in the first place.

What is changing and what does it change into?

So there's a distinction between the qualitative and the quantitative.

There's a distinction between content and the form.

Trotsky thought he could achieve the eternity of a content that doesn't have to go through form.

That's the problem.

Content eventually has to acquire form.

In order to further partake in in in content, by the way.

If you remain suspended in the pretense of content that suppresses form,

Wonder if you can still hear me in the y green green place.

I can still hear you.

I believe you.

Okay, you can still.

All right.

Um.

He's suppressing the formal consequences of the content of revolution.

But that doesn't mean you will avoid those consequences.

It means that you will be trapped within the formal framework.

that is pre revolutionary.

And that's why sociologically and demographically you will never be able to convince me, short of changing everything I've ever seen and read from history, Trotskyism and Left Communism

We're both sociologically part of the same

Uh historical strata.

As fascism.

Both of them were reacting to a qualitative revolutionary change that happens sometime after nineteen twenty nine, nineteen thirty.

That created a new type of political subject and civilizational subject.

A mass subject, mass politics, popular people associate Nazism and fascism with mass politics, but they were actually a reaction to mass politics.

They were a defense of classical liberal individualism in the face of true organic material mass politics.

They emulated the aesthetics of mass politics in many respects.

But fascism, it's the fa fascists.

It's the kind of individuals uniting together and binding together in a pact to defend their private property against the masses.

That's basically what it was.

And uh

Trotskyism is part of that reaction because the mass subject in the USSR was the peasantry.

And Trotsky was defending the sanctity and integrity of the classical, modern, European individual subject versus this popular subject that was the basis of Stalin's cult of personality.

Could you clarify what you mean by that a little bit more?

I'm curious.

I haven't heard a notion like that before.

Yeah.

So.

Russia obviously was facing like a concrete example.

Sorry to cut you off.

Yeah, yeah.

Okay.

A concrete example was that in the twenties during the debates following Lenin's death, Stalin's support was based primarily in newer cadre that were joining the party.

Who were very much coming from the countryside in many cases, from the Soviets.

I I agree on this, like they they were used to this WAR communism where there was little questioning of the status quo and authority, these newer cadre, and also this significant base in the peasant class who were more conservative and also a lot of support amongst the bureaucracy, which was, like Lenin said, the the czarist state anointed with socialist oil.

Yeah, sure, but the

Ultimately, all of these forces Trotsky regarded as having contaminated in the fight against bureaucracy.

Stalin did not stop that fight.

And Lenin acquiesced to the reality that we're faced with this czarist imperial machine that we have not fully replaced.

Lenin also had to acquiesce to it.

So the fight against bureaucracy, I don't think, acquires any concrete development in the Trotskyist tradition.

Only in the Marxist-Leninist tradition do we finally have something like Mao's Cultural Revolution, where that ability to deal with the impersonal bureaucratic nature of state machines is possible in the first place.

It's a different contradiction.

But in any case, I would focus here more on the mass subject of Russian politics and civilization, which was coming from the peasantry.

Trotsky very much believed that the revolution.

And its sacred principles would be completely destroyed if it embeds itself and defines itself within that context.

Because

He didn't regard Russia as advanced enough, right?

Because Western Europe has the proletariat and Russia does not.

And so we need to.

We need to be, you know, we need to our state has to be ruled by the true proletariat, the true subject, right?

And uh

But in practice this was civilizational racism.

In practice, I mean that's what that's the form it took.

The lesser, less developed races, the Chinese, the Russians, others, they they they they they have no basis with which to lead.

Uh so they have to follow

The Civilization of Western Europe.

And I and Lenin said that we should pursue a different path for the construction of civilization.

A non a non-European path.

That's what he said.

And I think the last thing he wrote actually, one of the last things.

But anyway, um

I think that Trotsky represented the vanity and the overextension of a very specific type of classical liberal Western subject faced with the reality of mass politics and reacting against it.

And I would put Mussolini and Hitler in the same camp.

Because the proletarian politics he was talking about was mythical, never actually existed.

For a brief period, it seemed like it existed in the October Revolution, but the city proletariat were turned out to be only part-time proletarians.

They had land in the countryside that they went back to during the Civil War.

And meanwhile, in Western Europe, the mythical proletariat was not at all a revolutionary subject.

In fact, it was a profoundly conservative and petty bourgeois subject.

In Western Europe?

Yeah.

What?

I mean, do you see the waves of revolutions in Western Europe after like after 1917?

I mean, 1918 in Germany?

No, those revolutions were simply a temporary vacuum that was filled due to the collapse of the Austro-Hungarian and German empires.

So they never represented a positive principle of proletarian politics asserting itself.

They were simply the negative consequences of the dissolution of the losing side of World War I, which were the imperial confederations and states that lost.

Some people tried to hijack that in Hungary and in Germany, but it was a total failure.

Well, yes, they had a lack of working-class leadership for sure, a shortage of a quality party to move them forward.

And the reason they didn't have the party is because they never had a mass subject.

They were focused on trying to solely and exclusively base themselves in the traditional social democratic concept of the proletariat, which had by that time become institutionalized and no longer revolutionary.

I'm not sure what you mean by the proletariat becoming like you said, the proletariat becoming institutionalized?

Yeah, through trade unions, through social democracy itself becoming an appendage of the state, and through the growth and rise of imperialism, which very much compartmentalized and institutionalized labor and very much institutionalized.

Things that before were much wilder.

I mean, Engels and Marx talked about this tendency with respect to the English proletariat.

Okay, so for example, like basically because the proletariat in these more advanced countries has received essentially bribes, kind of like what Lenin talked in the imperialist court countries?

Not necessarily bribes.

It's just the way that they became a new type of subject, right?

They became a subject of institutions.

A vacuum of leadership had been filled by petty bourgeois leadership that was allied to the state, the imperialist state.

And they were no longer an inherently revolutionary subject.

So you're saying the class became unrevolutionary?

Or I would say that they were just limited by leadership that was discussed?

I would say that Dmitrov and the Popular Front thesis was the good place to start.

It's not that they had no revolutionary potential.

It's that there was a need to embed.

Party politics and a much broader stratum of the people than just the traditional factory proletariat.

So, in the case of England, Marx and Engels talked about the Irish.

Um in the case of Central and Eastern Europe, there was a huge peasantry and farmer class that Communists had very much neglected.

In the American context,

William Foster came from a farmer-worker background, of of farmer-worker organizing.

And that's why he, you know, was able to kind of grow the Communist Party to this extent that he that it was.

But focusing solely on the urban proletariat was impossible.

In order to undermine imperialism, i it would have been necessary to establish a counter hegemonic foundation in the mass subject.

A mass subject other than the proletariat?

I mean, I I agree the pro it's not just the industrial proletariat.

Look, the truth is, the majority of the people in most countries cannot be defined on the basis of one class.

They oscillate and they have vacuating tendencies and they are compelled by different class principles and tendencies.

And usually this is a middle subject who usually is called the peasantry.

Um in Russia actually peasantry just meant subsistence farmer and nothing else.

And but this subject is almost always the majority.

I mean, the factory proletariat being the majority.

Is a crisis that will immediately mean revolution.

That's why it's usually very rare for that to be the case.

Uh what what about the proletariat outside of the factories?

Would you say they have a fundamentally different character to them?

Um

The okay, so Marx was describing proletarianization, you know, people being separated from their means of production and they have nothing to sell but their labor.

That's broadly the proletariat in Marx's time, not just factory proletarians, right?

Right.

But by the time that process becomes so comprehensive that the alienation of from the traditional means of production.

Is completed.

So, in America, when people are being kicked out of their farms and all these different divisions of labor that were not yet proletarianized became proletarianized, the intensity of proletarianization was symmetrical to the institutionalization and the rise of welfare states and the rise of kind of social policies and a social orientation of the imperialist state that very much.

Created a new social contract, and almost a new type of property, subsistence property, that was based in a social contract with the state, where you're no you no longer have nothing to lose but your chains.

You have a citizenship that that is a guarantee of a certain way of life and a certain minimal condition of a standard of living.

That gives you the same level of stability that a farmer used to have.

And so the destabilizing proletarianizing process becomes a process of mass institutionalization by modern states and societies.

Um which is a stabilized even more stable than premodern and feudal society in many ways.

So it was paradoxical and it's something Marxists didn't anticipate at all.

They thought that proletarianization would lead to people just having nothing but their labor to sell and therefore disposed to revolutionary uh you know, uh, so social instability would would

Uh collapse.

the superstructure and and revolution would be inevitable.

It was partially true, but the way that happened

Was not anticipated.

A new type of subject emerged that a post kind of post-liberal, post-individual, post-capitalist mass subject.

Whose rights, classical political rights, were also combined with certain economic rights.

Objectively, right?

And um

That more or less

Uh

offset the destabilizing consequences of proletarianization.

It's like instead of being think about it this way, instead of being a guy who has nothing to sell but their labor, you're now an employee of an institution of control and command of society.

N most people aren't directly government employees, but

at you know they're they're they're they're employees of hegemonic institutions.

And

You know, this is you're no longer just selling your labor anymore.

Um.

What do you mean by that?

You're participating in a different in a more broader kind of social contract where you are given certain guarantees of a certain way of life, of a certain standard of living.

Um

You have expectations that are indeed fulfilled, and that becomes the basis and foundation of the stability of the state.

Yeah, it's basically like what Lenin was writing about in imperialism, where the super profits that are used from exploding the No, not okay.

No, that was a distinct point, but that was a distinct tendency.

These super profits that were being used to that that was yes, the institutionalization of a new labor bureaucracy and aristocracy was only the beginning.

What Lenin didn't anticipate is how this basically will become universalized.

And the financial revenues that were a product of imperialism or in the post-war period, super imperialism.

In any case, people are no longer living solely on the basis of their labor.

But from steady streams of revenue that are very much financialized.

And the extent, this is where a theory of class struggle today would be relevant, is who actually depends upon the surpluses that are solely a consequence of imperialism versus who depends upon the actual material wealth produced by labor, by an industrial civilization.

So that was the basis of the whole barista debate, by the way, which we got in trouble for.

People thought that we thought we claimed baristas are unproductive because we think that they're less masculine, and that's not true.

It's just because we're trying to figure out in an era where.

Imperialist

Revenues uh as the basis of people's way of life is universalized, meaning every class is not paid directly because of the sale of their labor.

They're they're more or less paid because of a uh indiscriminate revenue.

So, within that revenue, you have to distinguish what is actually a consequence of the material wealth produced by labor and what is a consequence of.

You know, um

Uh revenues, monopoly revenues, uh you know, of speculative and uh finance and so on and so on.

Okay, so you're saying that m uh I'm trying to pick up on what you're saying exactly, because I'm I'm not I haven't really heard exactly this before.

It's not this idea that working class people in like the the West are counterrevolutionary or like unrevolutionary.

It's not it at all, yeah.

Sorry.

But it's also not so it's like this idea that you have steady incomes because of the stability of imperialism through things like state benefits, for example, and you're guaranteed a relative stability of life from the system and also it's not only state benefits.

Like look at Trump freaking out about the Strait of Hormuz.

The state proactively.

Tries to ensure that there's going to be a minimal standard of living that's fulfilled within the population for political purposes.

And um

Yeah, that that's true, right?

But the thing is, I think that this the crisis of capitalism doesn't stop that from changing.

Like we've seen the slowest recovery ever since 2008, for example.

I agree to an extent, but I think that it 2008 can simply last much it's not going to culminate in a Marxian crisis because capitalism as we know it is basically functionally dead.

It's not ba it doesn't have to be ruled by the laws of capitalism anymore.

What?

Yeah, it's it's a it's a pretty uns unsustainable yes, I agree, but it's a it's a r it's a command of the productive forces b via some type of political fiat now.

Are you saying like the laws of capital or like the notions that Marx put forward are have changed?

Or like I agree with the new economic system?

Those were precisely those precisely didn't change.

What changed is history.

We are in forty trillion dollars in debt and yet the steamboat is still tugging.

Okay, so think about what that means.

Well, I I think we've seen a lot of examples of states in the past, capitalist states, bourgeois states that are able to keep trucking along with huge amounts of debt, even historically, right?

No.

We saw it's unstable.

It's almost I mean, no, this has been happening.

Keep in mind, this is since this is almost a century now.

So this is the same thing.

Just to jump in.

You're saying that in the past they haven't been able to move along with significant amounts of debt, but now you're saying that they're not.

Not in a century where they're just what, printing money out of nothing and just keeping the system moving because of aircraft carriers and

Well th they do have a a s a strange level of control now, but th this like quantitative easing, for example, this money printing policy, can't go on forever.

They're going to hit a very hard limit.

There's going to be a tipping point.

Mm.

Why can't it be forever though?

Because the the eventually the US will have to pay its debts and eventually people are going to realize the US is not a very good uh debt payer.

People are going to stop trusting the the US government to actually pay debts.

Why did someone take out a bond?

The debt never has to be paid.

Um.

A lot of the debt is, you need to understand how the system works.

As long as part of the debt is continually serviced, everything's fine.

Look, put it this way.

I'm going to explain how we're paying back the debt.

So if you're a Japanese businessman, you're buying U.S.

government bonds, you actually are getting paid back.

True.

But when we're paying that back, we're printing money to pay you back.

So you're getting it back, don't worry.

But then the balance sheet on our end is that we just printed money we didn't pay for.

So we're basically like in debt to ourselves.

Okay.

And the guy in Japan doesn't care about that.

He doesn't care if we're in debt to ourselves.

Well, wouldn't the Japanese guy care if we're so indebted to ourselves that we're having to cut social services to just afford to pay the debt?

No?

No, he doesn't care.

So, you don't think there's any limit to the U.S.

debt spending?

The only limits are political.

The only limits are based in the logic of civilization itself.

Like, how much more will the people tolerate psychologically and politically?

Yes, I think those are explosive factors.

But by way of the economic system itself, is there going to be a Marxist breakdown?

No, that happened in 1929, and that's when it actually happened.

The one Marx predicted did happen.

But something else has, you know, emerged after that.

made economics less directly

You know, capitalist crisis no longer directly corresponded to an immediate uh crisis of of politics.

I see where we're coming from.

So I got two points, if you could let me finish.

The first one is that I agree that right now, unless there's a significant transformation in the activity or the consciousness of the American America.

Sorry?

Don't worry about that.

I'm somewhere else.

You're cool.

Unless there's a significant change in consciousness or a huge movement of the workers, they will keep on going up with this, right?

The state can get away with doing almost anything it needs to without the conscious intervention of working people.

Sorry about the traffic.

Philly's crazy.

But at the same time, there are absolutely limits and they will be hit.

And I'm curious what you mean by 1929 being a Marxian crash and the potential for one not like that.

I didn't say Marxian, I just mean the one like Marx directly predicted would happen based on what he wrote in Capital.

Okay.

So I'm not uh can we bring this on back to permanent revolution and socialism in one country?

Because I still revolutions cannot be permanent.

They have to have a

But they are constantly in motion, aren't they?

Sure.

Green one ones that were good on green.

Alright, we're good.

So, the Earth is constantly revolving around the Sun.

Okay, so.

What we call a qualitative determination.

Um it could be a f uh an apple, it could be a um

A biological organism, it could be any qualitative determination, a planet, a solar system, anything.

Ultimately, those are, according to systems theory, they're systems.

That's the premise of systems theory.

Now, systems theory is kind of like the bourgeoisie's approximation of dialectics.

It's not quite there, but it's an approximation.

Every given thing, though, is not just a thing, it's a process, it contains an internal process.

Um that's the kernel of truth in systems theory.

Every given thing is really just a form of a process.

When the process acquires form, the revolution has complete.

When revolutions complete, yes, they continue to move, but they don't move in ways that um

That uh how should I put it?

Um

They move with such a degree of consistency.

And they move with such a degree of stability and predictability that they become forms.

That's where form comes from.

You know, when when when a revolutionary process stabilizes

We no longer see it as in motion.

The only things we see in motion are the things

That um

Formal like put put it this way, when you see a guy walking around

Yeah, he's walking around, but it's the same guy, right?

Or when you see a um

When you see a car, its wheels are moving.

Uh actually, you really can't see the the wheels are moving if it's going at a sufficient speed.

You just see a wheel, right?

There's so many other examples of like you see something that looks static, like a selfsame form, but actually underlying it is a is a constant perpetuation of a process and a cycle.

So I don't think the October Revolution

ended in the sense that the motion ended.

It till it's I mean, even to this day in the Russian Federation, it's still turning off those wheels that began in 1917, for sure.

But what happened is the revolution acquired

Uh determination.

And

Trotsky hated that.

He thought

The revolution should continue to solely be defined negatively, but revolutions are also eventually acquire a positive definition.

Just negation, eternal negation is not the same thing as revolution.

Trotsky's permanent revolution really means permanent negation.

Well, I I think permanent negation is a part of this process of motion.

And and I'll I'll I'll go to what you're saying here about but negation has the opposing tension of uh you know uh

Actually, negation and positive determination, and together they form a qualitative determination.

So, you know, even a mo even a particle in modern physics, you know, a neutron or a proton or an electron very much are suspended in negation, but also positive determination.

It's a relationality, you know, it's a polarity, right?

Sure.

So so there's this like constant transformation of the revolution.

You would argue like y you say that it's constantly changing, right?

But you'd argue that it doesn't take on these qualitative leaps that would qualify it as a revolution again.

Right?

Am I getting that right?

A n a a new revolution.

Uh okay, for example, China.

China had the revolution in 'forty nine, but it also had the cultural revolution.

But the cultural revolution did not overthrow the proletarian dictatorship and the party state.

It was the reason it was a new revolution was because it was happening at a different dimension of society.

And yes, there are dimensions of a civilization and society that can continue to be, that can be open to new revolutions.

But when a revolution stabilizes, you have a changing of the guard.

That is continual, that's processual, and which is what?

Dynastic.

So I would argue the DPRK is a revolutionary state.

But the succession, the dynastic succession of leadership is revolutionary change for sure.

But we don't think of it as revolution because it doesn't seem like it's new.

Just like when we see a wheel turning, it's nothing new.

But as such, that's it is new, right?

It's a passing of the baton.

It is a change, a generational change, and so on.

So I have a kind of dynastic notion of revolutionary succession.

Okay, well, all right.

I see where you're coming from.

So it's a bit of a differentiation between the initial revolution, which takes hold, like let's say 1917, and then it goes through cycles, but you wouldn't call those further revolutions.

So one thing I do want to stick on is possibility.

Sorry?

They are new revolutions, but they are revolutions that deepen and enrich the forms and qualitative determinations that emerge out of the revolution rather than liquidate them.

Okay.

So two things that are part of this I'm curious about.

What would you consider the would you consider the withering away and eventual abolition of the state a revolution?

And then how do you think you could have a revolution that sticks to one country that's able to actually achieve socialism without spreading internationally?

Um

Well

The way okay, so

The revol uh

Corresponding to the withering of the way of the state.

The way I see it is just a continual process of dynastic revolutionary change, like Mao's cultural revolution and so on and so on.

These cycles, after a certain threshold of cycles, eventually, yes, the state proper that was defined by Engels withers away.

Now, does that mean central authority is gone?

I don't think so.

But uh of course not.

Yeah, you still have to have a small organizing apparatus.

Yeah, so the deepening of revolutionary cycles.

Um now, the second question you had was: How can revolutionary cycles continue to deepen without inevitably spreading?

And my basic response to this is that.

I think that the that it is inevitable that they spread, actually, but they don't spread.

Um, like a certain nodal center just expanding and sp they don't spread in an expansionist way, they spread more in the sense of the creation of a revolutionary center, which is like a center of gravity, which then influences the rest of the world, like the common term, no, not even, okay.

Um, you know, our experience of civilization and our reality globally is very much interconnected.

What happens in America very much affects the threshold of possibility that is imprinted upon our brains and our minds.

And you know, the the the Arab Spring, for example, absolutely affected America.

So and the way this happens is it just furthers and extends the threshold of what we consider possible within a civilization.

Monkey see, monkey do.

We tend to like a tick like a viral TikTok challenge, like the ice bucket challenge or something, right?

Like a trend.

There's a certain level logic of civil society of like trends can spread.

Yes, like if there was a revolution in the US, it'd be a role model for the whole world.

Yeah, yeah, it would it would spread like a trend.

Trends can spread.

That's the point.

So there's a logic of civil society at play that's global, for sure.

Um

And I think that's inevitable.

But what's not guaranteed that the revolution will.

Influence a given country in a way that you expect it to.

Stalin didn't anticipate that the revolution would influence China in the way that it did.

with Mao, for example, right.

So th that is the way that revolution spreads in a revolutionary way, by the way, because I think Mao is more revolutionary than Stalin in many ways, right?

Um

And this is what guarantees the openness of the revolutionary process.

But it there's never a guarantee from any central place of control that it's going to expand within your control.

The control aspect isn't there.

So yes, revolutions spread, but not within the control of revolutionary actors within a given context.

Uh so you're saying that it doesn't spread by the movements of a revolutionary actor.

I mean, wouldn't that be the party?

Are you saying it doesn't spread across national lines through revolutionary actors?

Yeah, if I'm o if I'm the revolutionary actor within my nation and I'm participating in the revolutionary process,

I can't control how that's going to influence another country.

I am not.

I am not the leader of that country's process.

You know, even the Robespierre, the Jacobins understood this, by the way.

That's why Robespierre was so against expanding the war effort in France.

He didn't want to become a war of expansion because he's like, we are the subject, we are participating in our own revolutionary process.

For us to extend a degree of control over how that's going to influence other nations means that we're going to be assuming a position with respect to those countries that's not the same as one we have to our own.

So they could anticipate how that would have a corrupting effect on the revolution within.

You know, the imperial tendency, so to speak, that we see with Napoleon.

Like this push and pull between a centralized revolutionary supporter and like one country and the influences of imperialism coming from another one.

Uh can you repeat that?

I d I don't I didn't quite understand that.

No, it's all right.

Um so for example, if you had a centralized country uh that is trying to develop revolutions in other countries, you're saying that there would be influences of imperialism onto the country that is trying to spread that revolution?

No, I'm saying that, yeah, well, your country would start to occupy and control other countries in ways that bypass the process of organically acquiring the popular support and being the voice of your own people.

You know, like if you're in France and you're the Jacobins, you're an organic son of the soil, you're the voice of the French masses and the French people.

Okay, and you said, I want to control how the revolution plays out in Spain.

You don't have the same relationship to the Spanish people, though.

You didn't do the long work of building a mass organization of the Spanish.

You don't speak their language.

You don't understand their culture.

You don't have the same relationship.

So you would be kind of meddling and extraneously imposing your will on a nation who will simply see you as a foreigner, right?

Well, do you think that if there were proletarians in one country that wanted the revolution to spread through a country, but they do not have the Communist Party built up necessary for that yet, that like wouldn't they appeal to that revolutionary country to support them?

Even though they are not of that country themselves, the country would have to judge fairly: are you the actual genuine representative of your nation?

Or, like, do you because the Comintern absolutely funded communists worldwide and gave them the resources they needed to.

to do that, but most of them were not successful.

Moscow funded everybody for till the end, till 91.

But most of the Communist parties worldwide did a very lousy job at becoming the leaders of their nation and the voice of their masses.

And usually to do that, they actually had to break with Moscow because Moscow imposed a certain orthodox institutional paradigm.

So uh you know you really

You know, it it's not as though the uh Stalin and and uh

The you know, ML states didn't actually help other communists.

It's that, for example, if you're Soviet Union, should you risk it all to prop up an unpopular minority of communists in Germany and prop them up basically to be the heads of state using your own military?

Well, that ignores and neglects the protracted and long process.

Of building up actual support amo and good faith and good will among your people.

And for this to be impo you're seen as a foreign occupier, basically.

I see where you're coming from.

But y you said at the same time spreading the revolution by invading other countries and biestepping that process.

Is that something that you support?

Like, for example, the spread of the Soviet Union by armed force into Eastern European countries through the war?

That was absolutely a mistake because.

Oh, you mean in the great patriotic war, not the Civil War.

Yes.

Yeah.

I mean, uh yeah, that that was of course justified by right of conquest because it was the USSR that was invaded and those states were used as the launching pad to do it.

So it fell within the logical

demand of the USSR that those states would not be militarily used against the USSR.

I don't think the USSR actually forced or exported its model onto those states.

They didn't turn Poland and Hungary and Germany into Soviet republics.

They more or less created basic guidelines of okay, you know, be a demo be a nice good democracy and don't be an aggressive militarist power.

Sure, it it definitely imposed certain terms and conditions.

And, you know, the the the Soviet occupation created favorable conditions for uh for communists for sure.

But uh it's a big myth that the Soviets simply appointed the communists in those nations.

It's not true.

They actually preferred I think they preferred actually that they wouldn't be ruled by communists, as a matter of fact.

Okay.

So I want to go back to one of the questions I asked earlier.

How do you think socialism is possible?

I think we could agree, like Mark said, a system based on abundance in a con country in a single country.

Um wh what do you mean?

Like, how can you have socialism in one country?

Um because

What okay, so the relationship of a country to a mode of production is the question, right?

And modes of production take national forms.

Now, usually a modality of production, when it is inceptual, becomes a dominant tendency in all countries simultaneously because of the logic of civil society itself.

So you could have a bunch of feudal countries, and capitalism can prevail.

Um

simply because, you know, uh the logic of civil society, you know, the disruptive nature of profit mongering by some foreign mercantile power introduces practices and relationships of production that previously did not exist.

Monkey see, monkey do, right?

And in the case of socialism, a country can actually.

uh ad be ad advanced to the point of a of a more qualitatively advanced modality of production

While the rest of the world is backward, in the same way that, for example, capitalism can develop maybe in a few city states and then take over the whole world.

And we can see examples of of a superior socialist mode of production actually inspiring other nations with the necessity of adopting the modality of production, not only according to the logic of civil society, but according to the logic of politics.

So for example, in order for the USA

to fight the Soviet Union, it actually had to adopt a lot of practices that we thought were exclusive to socialist nations, economic planning, control over supply chains and so on and so on.

And we're seeing something similar with China today.

So it it is inevitable that socialism will influence the world if it is adopted in one country.

But is it possible to build socialism in one country?

Yes, it is.

But that simultaneously establishes the inevitability that you're going to be influencing

The rest of the world, if your mode of production is truly more advanced, which history shows it was.

I I agree.

I mean, I'm not here to say that a centralized economy or a planned economy is a problem.

I absolutely support it.

I mean, that's the best thing about the Soviet Union that allowed it to go from a backwards peasant country to a global superpower, right?

Is the planned economies what allowed it to win the great patriotic WAR, these kinds of things.

But I want to hear your definition of socialism, of socialism, on one country.

I can tell you mine first, but I'll be in Japan, so you can go.

uh defining socialism?

Yeah, and like how that would how that connects to the socialism in one country.

Okay, I would say a socialist mode of production is a mode of production

Uh according to the principle of fulfilling the

the needs and well being of the overwhelming majority of the population.

Off the top of my head, if you put a gun to my head, force me to define socialism, I would say that the production is governed by a logic and is commanded by the principle of fulfilling uh some kind of common social interest.

Um that's not the only way I would define socialism, but it's like gun to my head, define it in less than thirty seconds, that's how I would do it.

Do you think abundance is a critical element of socialism, is like an essential element?

Uh no, actually, I don't.

So this is one of my big sticking points with that theory is that socialism, by definition, is society where the productive forces are owned or are controlled by the state, and there is a democratically controlled, centralized plan that executes production, production to an extent where society has its needs and wants fulfilled with more than enough to go around of all the necessary products to move society forward.

And the reason I emphasize this abundance.

I don't really have time to get into all that.

I understand the abundance argument.

I'm just going to say, and we're going to probably have to wrap it up here.

I'm just going to say that, you know, the way I think about modes of production is in terms of modalities of cycles and systems, just like when I talk about revolutions, right?

So production is always a process that has a cycle, right?

A beginning, a middle point, an end, and a reproduction process.

And a mode of production, it's almost like a biological organism.

It has to reproduce itself, right, in a kind of systemic way, consistently systemic way.

And, you know, it's almost kind of like a cybernetic understanding where you have to think about when we're talking about distinct modes of production, we're talking about distinct.

uh modalities of like what is almost like a living organism, right?

Distinct ways of a given integral division of labor reproducing itself.

How does it reproduce itself?

And so on and so on.

And the capitalist kind of see society, it's like an organism, and how does the organism reproduce?

Well, the capitalist form of reproduction is.

Um where

A circuit of capital, M C M prime, right, is the basis and the foundation of economic activity, right?

So the continual accumulation of surpluses in the form of money, right, in the form of exchange value,

Creates this kind of retrocausial, um, almost autonomous process whereby all manner of, um

economic institutions and relationships and technological innovation proliferates and so on and so on at a huge scale, all because of this kind of underlying logic of this circuit of capital, right?

And it's the circuit of capital that prevails as the like governing logos, the governing logic of production.

And just from that spark, you get the modern industrial civilization we call capitalism.

So, I like to think of modes of productions in terms of these kind of like governing and guiding principles or logic of production, right?

That actually pre-exists a given state of society.

So, saying abundant premise is abundance puts the cart before the horse, I think.

Because that's a given that's just this particular state of society.

It's not referring directly to the underlying principle of society, so to speak, right?

So okay, that that that's fair.

Yeah.

So I think going b off of that it's like you can have to wrap it up there.

I gotta bring more guests.

Sorry, man.

Don't mean to do it abruptly, but

Uh alright, let's break.

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Actual Palantir.

Hello.

Yeah, what?

Hey, man, I just wanted to say hello and uh wanted to say I wanted to ask what do you think about the uh the ceasefire agreement uh between Iran.

I'm just like you're your n you know, your name is Palantir.

I'm like what it

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Hey, can you hear me?

Yeah.

Alright, so uh I am interested.

Are you still holding to the idea or thought that communism is morally good?

You know, I knew I felt bad that I was gonna be mean to you 'cause of your profile picture and I wanted to let you speak before I started judging you and I I did allow you to speak and I just want to let you know that I hate you and I knew I hated you just 'cause when I saw your profile picture.

Um okay.

I don't are you interested or not?

I've got a couple of arguments I'd like to run past you.

Um not at all related to the last guy who um no, I know you I've I've been talking to you robot robotic glasses wearers for many days now and I very so hold on are you are you gonna fully hold on to this idea that uh what do you think of PPP?

Of what propositional logic?

Yeah, P P A P.

You know?

I think it helps clarify a lot of points.

I don't think it's necess I don't think it's necessary for debate, but I do think it helps clarify and make sure people are on the same page and I don't like P P A P.

It's not a I don't like the song.

Um okay.

I will are you least willing to uh to entertain

Thought by thought, and as I go through, give me what you have, your contentions.

Just tell me what your problem is and go from there.

Well, I mean, first of all, I don't know what version of communism you you promote, so I'm sort of lost in the dark.

P P A P

Interesting.

Well, while you do that, I'm I'm gonna have to.

So would you say that the Communist Yeah uh would you say that the Communist Manifesto then is a good representative of your beliefs?

Okay.

Yeah.

So, um, would you say that communism is ethical even when you take into account Christian ethics?

I think ethics is for pederasts.

How?

Did did religious thinkers not engage in ethics at all?

Uh pedarasted.

Uh can you expand on that?

Yeah, I believe in something called Tawid, which means uh you know, from you know, tawweed.

You know, I believe in that.

And I think uh ethics is a way to violently abstract

Uh and establish as a particular division of mental labor the innate uh moral cosmos that animates the soul of all mankind integrally and with seamless concrete unity.

So you take that and box it off in a pederast box and call it ethics, and then glasses wearers molest it.

And I'm against that.

I don't want glasses wearers to molest any any sacred part of the integral whole of united mankind.

I believe in the principle al-Wahdat al-Wahdat.

You're appealing to religious elements, are you not?

No elements.

Just one book, the Quran.

So you would y you wouldn't have any concern with Christian virtue ethics at all?

I don't speak pedarast babble.

No ethics.

It's no ethics.

Okay, so let's maybe take this a different way then.

So, wait, if you're not engaged in ethics at all, how do you hold on to the idea in the first place that communism is morally good?

Uh Al-Qur'an.

Okay, but the Quran does the Quran not have a code of ethics?

Does it not tell you how to behave and how to act?

No code.

No cut so there is no instructions for conduct in the Quran?

No, instructions are how to put it put a put a chair together.

It's not there.

So if I open up to a random page in the Quran, it's not going to tell me how to behave?

Um it will not tell you how to behave, it will only show you the truth.

So is it true that there is a proper way to behave?

Yes.

So then there is ethics.

Because if there is a proper way to behave, then there is an ethical guide.

There's no ethical guide.

That's what an ethics is.

Ethics is a guide to life.

Ethics is a made-up arbitrary division of a whole that is undivided.

And how do you possibly substantiate that claim?

By existing.

By existing.

Okay.

I don't still don't see how that's relevant.

So, when I am talking about ethics and morality, I am mostly concerned with how one should live their life.

And so, when I open to religious texts like the Quran, from Allah.

Okay.

So let's talk about, for example,

What is it do you have any uh

Do do you dis do you not think the Quran is a guide for how to live?

Okay.

Well, here's what I'm going to say then.

If the Koran i guides people on how to live, it promotes a ethical prescription.

No.

Yes it does.

But definitionally, because ethics is a guideline.

Okay.

Ethics is a guide to life.

Why do you contend that and how do you contend that?

How do you play?

Ethics is a second-hand attempt at people attempting to identify.

Um

The so when profit ethics to guide people in how to live, that was some made-up second-hand concept.

He didn't guide people on the basis of some kind of discrete, divided compartment within a mental division of labor he called ethics.

He guided people directly through inspiration based on his virtues, his actions, him as a role model.

So, you're a virtue ethicist.

He's a role model.

You're supposed to adopt his virtues.

I'm not any of these pederats.

These are molestation victims in your head.

I'm not any of them.

I'm actually just Uzbek.

Okay, am I supposed to imitate Muhammad?

Uh no.

So what is what what's the whole point of the Quran?

Is it not guiding me in how to live?

It it doesn't guide you as a computer.

Uh, I'm not concerned.

I just don't know how to talk to someone who doesn't know what it means to be inspired by anything, you know?

Well, I'm very familiar.

I'm a Christian.

I'm inspired by Revelation is sort of like you worship.

Yes, I am.

You worship.

Numbers and not computers.

So, hold on.

I got I have a copy of this.

Jesus spoke in riddles.

He spoke in poetry.

He spoke indirectly.

If you can't get it, if you can't be inspired by truth, if you can't be inspired by things, if you just don't get it, if you don't understand that everything that guides us and compels us in human beings is coming from a source that is an integral whole of existence that is simultaneously and continuously compelling the sum integral totality of all that the cosmos is continuously upon us at every second of every breath that we take and nowhere within this is there a distinction between the ethical the moral the beautiful the just and the good i don't know what to tell you you just separate all these things correct in the sense that religious concepts are matters of significance so like you said they're going to be matters of parallel religious doesn't exist religion doesn't exist religion doesn't exist it's not real how do you come to that conclusion

It's just some separate made up thing that's just like sep and I don't accept the justification of separating it into a discrete division of labor.

There's an integral totality.

I believe only in the t integral totality of existence and labor.

Do you believe that there are matters of instance and then matters of significance?

Like, do you think that there's a difference between a story that has a moral to it and then morality itself?

No.

As it is.

There's no distinction in reality.

Only in your head is there a distinction.

So if I say that there is a cup in front of me, for example, that is not one communicative aspect as opposed to uh

Let's say I describe a woman like a cup full of love.

Same thing.

So the cup that is in front of me is literally full of love.

Literally, yes.

How do you come to that conclusion?

Because all of being is full of love.

God's love.

Okay, so let's maybe.

Er so you said every being is full of everything is full of love, is that including the spiritual beings?

Everything.

So what about the deceiver, um Satan?

Even he

How can a deceiver be full of love?

He was created by God.

Okay, but that doesn't explain how he's full of love.

I mean, if I love someone, why would I lie to them?

Because you are deceived.

So

W how?

God gave you free will.

So so so let me get this straight.

I'm supposed to somehow believe that uh that Satan the deceiver is full of love, but yet I am deceived.

Yes.

Okay, so then I I I'm really feeling 'cause it I'm left here with two options.

Either I'm accepting all these different contradictions that you've proposed, or the simpler thing is you just don't want to build a moral argument behind why you think communism is morally good.

It seems like you're trying to have your cake and eat it too.

You've used

No cake.

And it is no cake supposed to somehow convince me that communism is good.

Yes.

I mean, it explains why communists love to starve people, but okay.

If you had to try to convince me that more that communism is morally good, how would you go about it?

Stop eating seed oils that lower your testosterone.

I'm actually I'm actually allergic to seed oils.

It's a big problem.

So you have no excuse.

No excuse for what?

For being

Gay.

so effective.

I am I'm thoroughly convinced.

Uh

Oops.

Do you do you like actually have an argument that would maybe convince an outsider as to why communism is good?

Uh yes, I do.

I mean of course I would.

So, what is it?

I'm waiting for it.

I'm an open-minded individual.

I've been inquisitive this entire time.

You really want the argument in a propositional form?

I'm extending an olive branch.

You want the argument in a logical form, correct?

I want the argument in a way that is maybe coherent that I can track and that we can refer back to it.

Doesn't have to be P1, P2.

It just has to be referential.

Yeah.

Okay.

Got it.

It's coming right up.

Mm-hmm.

So, let me ask you this.

You've been very unserious this entire conversation.

If I am a reasonable person,

To what why should I believe that I have a pen?

I have a apple.

Where is this leading?

Uh apple pen.

I have a pen.

I have pineapple.

Um pineapple.

Are you I just want to make sure you're tracking.

Are you tracking that?

I'm not understanding why a song from 2015 has a pen.

Are you tracking it?

He had a pen and then he had a

He had an apple.

Do you know what happened?

From there, how do I come to the to the conclusion that communism is happening?

Well, you gotta track the argument first before you understand the beautiful conclusion.

There's there's nothing to track.

There's no contact.

How can I help you if you don't want to track it?

There's no content to discuss.

You haven't enlightened me as to how that has any relevance to the surface.

Yeah, I'll play it again.

All right, I'll play it again.

So typically when it comes to debate, refusal to take up an affirmative position and explain the position you're holding is a form of running away concession.

All right, do you are you tracking that?

Uh about as well as Junior is tracking very similar conversations that he had with Inspiring Philosophy.

I I think we're on two different trains here.

Did you track what uh what the argument was?

I'm on the track.

You are.

Driving a Jeep in the middle of the Oregon sand dunes.

Okay, let me ask you a question.

If you were living in Dune

And the Messiah came to Arrakis, Would you have glasses and be like No

What does that have any relevance to the motivation?

Everyone's inspired, everyone's ready, they understand the situation, they understand, they're ready to go.

It's a very clear thing being communicated, they're oppressed, they need to be liberated to acquire dignity and so on.

Would you be like, Let me hear the argument so it can track?

Like, is that w how you would respond?

I just wanna be curious.

I would well, first of all, a messiah-style figure like what we would expect to see given God's nature would be something like a father figure.

And fathers actually, from my experience, love to sit back and explain the world and how it works.

That's actually like a facet of being a father.

Why would he be a father?

If Jesus, would you like to logic lord Jesus if he was alive and be like when Jesus was like you know, it is easier for the wealthy to pass through it's easier for a camel to pass through the the eye of a needle than the wealthy to enter heaven would you be like that doesn't track for me can you explain it's like would that be your whole thing

So, like, how would you respond to that?

How would you respond to that if he said that?

How did I respond?

I would ask I would ask him to what he means by that.

But nobody had to do that except you.

Actually, no, no, no, no, no, if you finish that verse to to its logical conclusion, people did have to ask.

They understood exactly what he meant.

He didn't have to put himself in this formulaic mechanical way.

People understood.

So that means the entirety of early church history is just kaput.

I no, you're saying that.

I'm not.

I'm saying most okay, do you know why I'm not taking you seriously?

I want to be good faith about it.

Okay, the reason I'm not taking you seriously is because your your relationships.

So before you get to this, do you understand the full context of the verse you just referenced?

Uh okay, what's the context?

So

Immediately following the eye of the needle thing, people did ask Jesus because he was a rabbi, right?

It means teacher.

And he said that he eventually ended up in clarifying that all things are possible through God.

So when he said that the wealthy would have an easier time getting to heaven than passing a camel through the eye of a needle, he was saying that even God can do the impossible.

It was a call to have faith in Christ, not to not necessarily say that rich people can't get into heaven.

He's saying it's really hard by default for them to do that, and that if they wanted to, they would have to have an extraordinary degree of faith in God or whatever.

So I don't know what you're talking about.

Anyway, look, the reason I can't, I think every man in their gut, I can argue, I mean, I'm happy to argue, but when you're operating on the basis of reducing everything to a propositional form and you're calling that logic, it tends to be a bad faith way of conversing with someone.

Which is why I usually meaning the meaning that we intend to communicate usually has.

That's the whole thing is this entire time I've been like, hey, we can kind of ditch propositional logic and take something more informal.

But you said you have to track it and all these kind of things.

And I just, I don't know what you mean by that.

I would say that I would say communism is not an abstraction.

Okay, first of all, I'm not inventing some kind of system I made up or I think has been made up at any point.

I think communism is the very basic and self-evident demand that does exist.

among populations and people.

uh in many different forms for certain, but it's a basic demand and growing awareness that we do exist within an integral, unified uh division of labor,

And that the common reality we share

Deserves to be given the consideration that is befitting of our existence as dignified human beings.

Now, I'm not going to.

You can strip that and turn that into an eternal abstraction and reduce it to that as some kind of universal principle that exists in isolation within a vacuum.

But I'm saying that within the context of the actual world we live in, the actual society we live in, the actual history that we've inherited, and the actual situation we now find ourselves in, with all the context it implies.

So I would like to assume.

So you implicitly assume that we can all acknowledge we do live in a real world and we can talk about it without having to be.

Absolutely certain of whether or not at a propositional or formal level we are being I mean yeah, I I'm I'm a realist.

You have not said anything I'm necessarily like just there that I disagree with.

We do contact and interact with reality and there's very real aspects of human nature and there's a it sounds like you were communicating some degree of like a most common denominator shared between people, correct?

Yeah.

So then would you say that this most common denominator is something like a human nature?

Um hold on, I'm reading something.

What are you saying?

So earlier you said that you would agree that there is some degree of like

most common denominator among workers and people, and we should recognize that in as a fact of reality.

I would say that our existence is materially interrelated.

Materially and practically interrelated, like in actuality.

We share a means of production and we share a division of labor.

So you would you would as you essentially are you or are you not grounding this division of labor aspect as a part of human nature?

To the extent that I would say that human nature is that we form divisions of labor.

We form communities of labor upon whose basis our existence depends materially.

I would say it's human nature that we are social beings.

But I wouldn't say a particular form of the division of labor is a reflection of human nature.

Okay, so sure.

Just the tendency of humans to specialize and deviate the labor.

That's cool enough.

Personally, I think that there's much more to human nature than that.

In fact, I think at its core...

That's the problem.

I never reduced human nature to that.

I just said that's an aspect of human nature.

Sure.

Would you agree that it would be subordinate to other aspects of human nature, such as like the things we have more often in common?

I think that every aspect of our existence um

Is subordinate to the kind of logos that pre-exists our individuation, pre-exists our sense of subjectivity, pre-exists our command of language, even.

And that before we have any of this, we have to be socialized in some kind of way.

We have to enter some kind of social cosmos that interpolates us as a something and as a someone, and that without this mediation, we

cannot exist actually.

Sure.

I would still say that that aspect of you know human nature exists as an aspect of our uh rationality.

Right so humans are rational animals and that it is rational for humans to cooperate.

And all things are rational in that sense.

Even plants are rational, animals are rational.

But they'd be they'd be bar plants and animals would be rational insofar as the Creator has rationally fit them into the world and into the system it created.

No, they are governed by rational they're governed by rational principles.

Correct, but the animals themselves are not rational animals.

Because there's something uniquely special about the way that humans exchange information and arguments.

So, okay, well, if you want to understand and understand what separates man from animals and simplify it, I agree something qualitatively does separate us from animals.

The difference between man and animal is that man has to reproduce the only being within the cosmos that must actually reproduce their existence.

A biological organism, for example, doesn't actually reproduce its existence.

All it does is

All an organism is, is really a relationship between the organism and its environs.

Can you clarify what you mean by reproduce its existence?

Yeah.

So all the premises that ground our existence, we can say these are causal premises.

So for example, all the things that made us physically possible in the first place, whether in the emergent sense of the evolutionary conditions of our existence, you know, since, let's say, the beginning of the universe, or the active conditions of our the active material conditions that I would take into account.

It sounds to me like you're describing general reproduction with all which all organisms share in general.

Yeah, but either the problem is that you cut me off, so we will never know what I was talking about.

Okay, so go ahead and continue because I want to make sure I get your whole thought then.

Yeah, so biological subsistence and reproduction isn't actually an act of reproducing your existence with any discrimination.

It's a completely passive process in the same way that physical causes are passive, you know, rocks falling down hills and so on and so on.

Biological systems do reproduce, but they do not do so by They do not do so by reproducing the existence of the thing actively.

Do you understand?

It's still completely passive.

So, would you say that the difference between the active and the passive is some sort of intentionality?

Well, you didn't let me get there, so we'll never know what I meant.

I have to kind of probe you as you go 'cause I'm we have to climb.

I'm trying to get to that key point, but you keep interrupting me, so we'll never know, I guess.

Well, so then what separates

human reproduction from an animalistic reproduction.

Right.

So like I said, all of the underlying premises I just mentioned that premise the possibility of a human being, which are inherited by the human being and not the consequence of human actions,

are set before a human being and made an object

Um of their activity.

And in this way, the passive reproduction of our existence is impossible because the dimension of

actual necessity intervenes.

And so when we think about what is an act,

Well, all an act really is, if you ask me,

Is the entire fabric of the cosmos actually facing itself and closing in upon itself?

A human being is a being that reproduces itself.

That has that's burdened with the task, that's burdened with the necessity of reproducing itself for itself.

What is the thing in humanity that is being reproduced here?

Uh there's a woman who wants to talk to me, I'd rather talk to her.

I'm just gonna bring her.

What do you want?

Yeah, I was going to ask if you had an argument for moral reality.

Okay, bro, bro, bro.

What is this?

Do you have an argument?

Yeah, no offense.

The debate for with Radcap, they kind of now associate you with moral realism.

Go ahead.

I was just curious.

Go ahead.

Continue.

So, to kind of get back to where I was at, what is it with, like, what is it in humans that's being reproduced, like, down at its core?

Uh I would no, it's it's interesting.

I would say the thing that's being reproduced is actually being itself.

A human all a human being is a the the being as it acquires particularity and which um

Which uh

which really is the the the the uh principle of cosmos itself.

It's an ontological principle.

So being as such, um acquiring self sameness with itself.

That's really what a human being is.

So, how do you attribute that to humans and not animals in general?

Because it seems to me that animals have an almost automatic code of life.

They have like an instinct that drives them.

They are the like even Georgia.

We don't recognize that.

We don't have that privilege.

We don't have the privilege of being able to be guided by an instinct.

We have to decisively face being as such, for example.

You want to go the Hegarian route.

Correct, which is why that humans have to have that specialty of rationality to them, right?

It's the rationality that explains why they have to be so decisive, which you just want to do.

Well, all that reason consists of is the accordance of being with itself.

That's it.

Well so then you would say that like maybe the ultimate telos of rationality is capital B being, being able to be one with

The creator or the intended creator.

To be accordant with itself, yes, that's the that's what reason can that's the content of reason.

So then it is by reason that humans decide how to act.

Is that

Not correct?

Uh provided this is our definition or reason, then yes.

So then you would say that morality is a rational enterprise.

Or that ethics is irrational.

I would say there is nothing that is irrational.

So then, like, now that we've gotten to this idea that morality in ethics is rational, how do you say that ethics or morality is not like this code of conduct that humans can discover?

It seems like we're right back to where we're going to be able to do it.

Let me just simplify my entire worldview to you.

Because honestly, it's 1.40 a.m.

I'm not going to sit here and spend three hours explaining my entire philosophy to you, but I'll try to simplify it as the best of my ability.

So my view is that being does not have the discrimination inherently that we impose upon it through creating mental divisions of labor that maybe make it easier for us to attend to these different aspects of being.

Um

uh that there there there are these different aspects, but those aspects are not the same thing as the different specializations taken on by our thinking consciousness.

Which are in fact distinct forms of mental activity, not distinct realities of being.

So the moral dimension of being, I don't actually think is distinct from the material dimension, from the existential dimension, you know, and so on and so on.

I don't think the moral is actually separated from the cosmos.

And cosmos is inherently something moral.

Well, that would be the moral.

And being, being is inherently something that has a moral reality to it.

But when we abstract the moral from a concrete totality, which is in fact part of, we have to engage in an abstraction and treat it as something distinct.

When we do that and treat it with this exclusivity and distinction, we translate it as ethics.

And that's solely something we're doing through our mental activity.

Then after we do that, we then project this product, this artificial product of our mental activity onto the thing itself and say,

You know, this is ethics, this is religion, this is this and this is that.

The thing itself doesn't know these distinctions.

The thing itself is not uh is not b um separated by these distinctions.

So the distinction is artificial to me.

That's why I don't take it seriously.

I think when we human beings engage in ordinary language and I we talk about sunglasses, when a random guy in the street talks about sunglasses, there's absolutely a moral significance to what he's doing.

He may not know it.

He may not comprehend it.

He may not have thought it through.

But there is an inherent everything, for example, every step you take, this is the analogy, when you walk.

There are all manner of different processes.

going on with the one step that you take.

There's m bio biological processes, physical processes, processes that are relevant at the scale of particle physics, skeletal, you know, muscular skeletal, whatever, biophysical, all sorts of things that are treated differently within the mental division of labor are suspended in the process of you taking a step.

But does that mean that with every step you take,

There is somehow all of these divisions of labor are some the knowledge, specialized knowledge and tailbone and so on and so on.

All of this is actually there.

No, it's one thing that's happening.

There's one thing happening.

Okay.

All of it works together and is interrelated concretely and in reality.

Right?

Mentally, you treat these all as separate things, but they're all actually one thing.

Okay?

So that's basically my worldview.

I would almost agree.

I would say that matters of significance are, in a certain sense, embedded in the sense that when humans interact with the world, they do so teleologically.

The way in which things are embedded have no regard for.

The distinctions we uh we project upon those things within our consciousness.

So would you say that it matters it doesn't would you say it ultimately doesn't matter?

Um

What humans value?

Uh it's one forty five AM.

I have no idea how you would come to that conclusion, so please give me one reason why we shouldn't just wrap it up here.

I mean I'm perfectly comfortable.

I think I um if I could just

Yeah, I mean, I don't know how you get from that.

Like, okay, so you say you can't have vet.

What?

No, I'm saying the opposite.

I'm saying that.

Our values are embedded.

They're not like these separate, distinct things.

Like, what are you talking about?

If I said a guy on the street with sunglasses, that there's a moral significance to him talking about that, or literally anything, really.

Of course, yeah, the suspended in this are values and so on and so on.

But abstract values are the artificial creations.

of our consciousness.

They're artificial secondary products of a kind of secondhand mental activity that is in no way suspended in the vital source of the thing that we call a value.

I don't know how to explain that to you.

One more person can come.

One more person and then we're done.

And uh it's not gonna be a logic, Lord.

I'm not staying up for four hours again.

Uh

If you guys want me to continue debating Autists every stream, drop a 10.

Otherwise, and I understand if you don't, don't.

But I will not continue doing this shit every stream.

Uh because it's just a waste of my time, honestly.

Alright, one person requester, we're done.

Why'd you kick me when you found out I wasn't a woman, dude?

I don't know, 'cause from far away your profile picture

Why are you um why are you a moral realist?

Why are you a moral realist?

I don't know who that is.

Can you hear me?

You're echoing.

One's one's on the green place if it's working.

One's one's ones if you can hear me.

Ones if you can hear me.

All right, you can hear me.

Yeah, I can hear you.

All right, we're gonna this is gonna be literally five minutes.

I have to go after that.

All right, so what do you you said, why am I a moral realist?

Yeah.

Uh because

That's my response because

Okay, well, I'm an anti-realist because CR doesn't really get us anywhere.

No, you're right, but you're the one who requested.

I don't have a problem with, I don't, I don't, I don't, I want to be clear.

Like, I don't find it necessary to evangelize common sense.

I want to be clear about that to every all the logic lords on TikTok.

I don't, on a mass level, think it's necessary for me to convince autistic logic lords.

I'm not even.

I want to be clear about this because it's like for us to take power, we just have to speak to the masses in terms of what they understand in their stomach, their common sense, things they can feel and understand.

And we don't need to like all these things you talk about.

I'm a moral realist.

I'm a moral anti-realist.

In real life, none of that matters at any level.

It's just you're creating problems that only exist in your head, but are nowhere real in the real world anywhere.

And you're saying, well, how do we talk about it?

You're like a person cornering themselves in a dark room.

Like, well, what is real?

How do we talk about reality?

Just go outside.

Stop psyching yourself out.

You're treating us the excuse.

This is not a problem of your brain.

It's not a problem of your mind to dwell upon.

Like you can, you can be like, how do I know what the grass is green and what green is and what the grass is?

Bro, just touch grass.

You're overthinking it in your head because you're separated from the thing itself.

If you're spending so much time making up these made-up philosophies of morality, it's because you're removed from the actual reality of what is the moral.

The moral is very much something everyone can sense and experience.

When you're engaging in these abstractions, moral, realism, anti-realism, it's because you're separated.

From the thing itself.

You know.

Okay, if you were to say my attitudes about chocolate ice cream are objectively true, right?

Right.

Right.

Do you think like me asking for would be an argument for that?

What would be the meaningfulness of that statement?

What are you saying?

What would be the meaningfulness of that statement?

You'd know you'd be making a basically meaningless statement.

You're basically saying you could not consider the possibility that other people don't experience ice cream the same way you do, which would be something I doubt you believe, unless you were delusional.

Well, no, no, no, no, I'm not I'm not saying I believe that.

Look, I'm just saying, how do you were if you were to say that, right?

And I asked you for an argument big chug, what do you want?

You've been talking shit, haven't you?

Uh my bad.

I didn't mean to I didn't mean to disrespect you.

How you doing tonight, bro?

I just wanted your submission and I accept it, you bitch.

Every so everyone in this chat talking shit, just understand your leader just submitted to me.

Uh this guy saying, Oh, 57 viewers.

Yeah, totally.

I only have 57.

You're right.

I would never violate TikTok's terms of service and be somewhere else right now.

Wait, I'm allowed to do that.

Am I not?

I can't ju I just can't mention where I'm at.

Huh?

Never mind.

No, I'm just streaming on TikTok right now.

Nowhere else.

Trust me.

5-4 Brown Clown.

Uh my feelings are hurt by that, you know, you just hurt my feelings.

Um

I gotta think about how I'm gonna cry about this before I do cry.

Which I will, trust me, I just have to think about it a little bit.

Uh I'm getting there though, don't worry.

I just gotta think about it a little more.

I'm like I'm like what does this woman want?

And then I click it and it's like, yo, what up, bro?

That was hilarious.

That was honestly so funny.

That was a highlight.

All these weird, like, logic lords, you guys are just not even human anymore.

Honestly, like, your whole worldview would collapse if a homeless guy just, like,

Um, just like jumped you on the street.

Like, none of that stuff you spend hours debating about on TikTok would mean anything anymore.

Like, when anytime shit gets real, none of the things you care about matter.

You know, like, all these things, all these like made-up things you construct in your mind, in your head that don't exist anywhere in the world, all of that collapses the minute shit gets real.

Then you become you have an integral worldview where you just got to act quick, think quick.

And none of these values and principles you artificially construct in your head.

Become anything.

You're not a logic lord?

Bro, you're talking about moral realism versus anti-realism.

Like, how out of touch from the real world do you have to be to talk about that?

Red Mays, what's up?

You wanna know my argument against analytic philosophy?

Just look at them.

They're all a bunch of fat people wearing glasses.

And their whole life is hollow and empty.

You want to die like that?

Go ahead.

Be my guest.

I don't agree.

Like, you only live one time.

Is that what you want to live your life doing?

Thinking it matters?

It really doesn't, I promise.

So communism is a rash feeling we should all act on without consideration.

Uh you've had plenty of time to consider it, but because you're obese and play video games you haven't.

I don't know what to tell you.

Uh plenty of consideration is devoted to it.

As soon as people understand what it means, look, it's like when a fish knows what water is, the fish swims in the water.

When mankind knows what the communism is, he seizes upon the communism with a zeal, with a fanaticism.

Like a fish seeking water.

And uh this is the truth.

This is why you anti-communists have to lie and deceive and create these convoluted systems of cope and gibber to you even you l ANCAPS lie to people and say you want communism, be an ANCAP.

If you want a dignified way of life and you want to be able to support yourself and your family and have dignity, you say then you're going to be an ANCAP.

See, the basic demand for of a people to have these things is inherently communistic.

Nobody says this.

Yes, they do.

Unconsciously they do, not consciously, of course not.

Communism

You want me to nuke you anti communists?

It was never a theory.

Karl Marx did not invent communism.

Communist Manifesto names what, five to seven different types of communism?

Communism is a tendency that happens to prop up throughout human history.

Its origins cannot be pinned to anything, so it must come from God.

If communism could be debated with,

In the way you logic lords seek it.

Who founded communism?

Where's the founder?

The reason you talk of Karl Marx is because he's the boogeyman who embraced the role.

But what do the opening lines of the Communist Manifesto A specter is haunting Europe Before anyone who knew who Karl Marx was, a spectre was haunting Europe.

The specter is immortal across history.

People have been freaking out and

People were freaking out and fear mongering about Communism before Karl Marx even had a name.

Literally, in the press, they were fear mongering of Communism.

Literally, in the same way they do now.

Mr.

Paoavolo

Hi, I think Brazilians are annoying.

Are you Brazilian?

Yeah.

It's taking forever to load.

I'm done with this shit.

Yo!

But hello, how are you?

Are you Brazilian?

No, I'm not Brazilian.

What are you?

I'm European.

Bye.

F you you reactionary red brown fascist.

Get out!

Get out from our country!

You're a fascist, you're not a communist, get out!

A white guy telling an Arab to get out of the country.

I'm Indian, get out.

Why is an Indian telling me to get out if you're I'm Arab?

Wh who do you say to get out of the country?

I'm saying get out with their reactionary politics.

Do you know you said get out of the country?

So you believe in deportation?

Deporting fascists?

Yes.

Okay, but you said get out of the country, correct?

So this is a national framework you're working in?

Well, we currently live in a in a in a nation, that's right, and that's Lenin as your profile picture, right?

So are you a Bolshevik as well?

Well Marxist-Leninist.

I'm like you.

So national Bolshevik.

I'm not a national Bolshevik.

Yeah, you are.

You said you wanted me to get out of the country.

You didn't say three.

But why say get out of the country?

But what uh me getting out of the country implies there's a country that you're okay with accepting me, right?

No, what?

So, where would how would I how could I get out of the country without ending up in another country?

Well, you could die.

Okay, so just say that's what you want.

Well, you're a fascist, of course that's what I want.

Okay.

Do you call your mom a fascist when she gives you a bedtime?

Well, my mom is actually a fascist, but she, your mom is a fascist, right?

Yes.

So me and your mom, me and your mom are together.

No, no, she's not a red-brown fashionist.

No, but we, me, and your mom are definitely in the same boat.

Me and your mom are in the same boat.

You said you want me to be deported.

Well, your mom will be with me on the same boat.

My mom wants to leave, though.

That's the thing.

My mom.

Okay, and I'll take her with me.

Is that okay?

No.

She wants to go to India.

Are you going to go to India?

She's fascist, right?

So she should.

You want her to die, right?

Just like me.

No, no, no, not my mom.

My mom's special.

No, you said unless you, so you have no principles.

You're bourgeois, petty bourgeois.

Well, not coming to my.

Well, not when it comes to my mom.

I love my mom.

You don't look her.

You said she's a fascist and I'm a fascist.

What?

She's with me now.

She doesn't love you anymore.

No, no, no, no.

Well, like, she's unfortunately Islamophobic, so.

She doesn't love you anymore.

No, just because I'm a foreigner, there's a difference.

I wonder why.

Anyway, uh, you said get out of my country, you fascist.

Then you said your mom is a fascist.

And then, uh, wait, is this actually?

Can I talk to your mom?

No.

No, she would kill me if she knew I was on TikTok live.

How old are you?

I'm 18.

Okay.

I'm coming home.

I would say that, um,.

I would say that your mom and me have a lot in common according to you, and that maybe you should introduce us.

No, don't protect my mob bro.

Maybe I should.

Maybe you shouldn't.

Why not?

Because I like my dad.

Well he doesn't seem to have a say in it any more because uh you just said your mom's a fascist.

Aren't you like the head of like one of the biggest communist parties in the country communist growing club parties in the country?

Uh I would say second biggest

If we're calling PSL Communist, we're the second biggest.

They have 1400.

We're slowly behind them.

We're getting there.

But why?

Damn, I didn't know I was talking to such.

I thought this was like.

I didn't recognize.

Oh, I mean, I knew you were like the Haas, but like.

Yeah.

Why do people are why are people surprised about how accessible I am?

I don't understand that.

There was only one guest request here.

Yeah, I I don't really publicize my TikTok at all.

And uh I'm not

Primarily streaming here, I'm somewhere else, but I'm using this to for content for somewhere else.

Anyway, uh what what do you want?

You want it to yell at me and say I'm a fascist because the Reddit told you?

Well, Reddit and Medium.

It's like that's two sources.

Reddit and who?

Medium and Discord and TikTok.

So that's four sources.

That's like academic.

Yeah.

No, I mean, I'm sure you when people when you grew up hearing that Stalin ate babies, I'm sure you uh believed it right away.

Also, why are you guys trying to take over subreddits, bro?

Do you think Stalin was a lied-about man, or he's people are saying the truth about him in the mainstream, like on Google?

Well, they're lying.

Yeah, they're lying about me too, buddy.

You get used to it.

They're lying about me too.

Did he or did he not call someone the F-Slip?

I did.

Okay, so then what are we doing, bro?

I didn't take over subreddits.

I didn't do any of that.

I did.

No, but you guys are ACP.

No, they're not.

There's one Australian who's doing it, who's not even an ACP, alright?

He's just a sympathizer.

I mean, it doesn't matter because Reddit is the.

Okay, he's an ACP supporter in Australia who's doing it.

Alright, cry about it.

You should denounce that.

Why would I?

Because it's it's immoral.

It's like it's like I hope Reddit burns to the ground.

I hope every Reddit data server fucking gets flooded and is destroyed.

Why are you talking to a communist and talking about Reddit?

Me too, me too.

But like, you have to consider that it's really cringe to try and take over substance.

Like, that's like really cringe behavior.

Okay, I don't care about subjects.

I don't, I literally, it's not my problem.

I don't care.

Okay, but like you should still denounce it though.

Like do you denounce um do you denounce national Bolsheviks?

No.

Okay, well look at that one.

It's okay, so then don't complain when people call you red brown fascists.

You know what you remind me of when I was like in elementary school and people like

Called all the Muslims terrorists, and it was just kind of like exhausting.

Like, you're so ignorant, you don't even know anything, dude.

You don't even know what national Bolsheviks are.

You don't even know who they are, where they came from, what they actually believe.

Okay, you don't know who Dugan is.

You're just an ignorant person.

He wrote like the fourth freaking political economy stage thing.

Okay.

And what's my rela what about Dugan's ideas am I influenced by?

Yeah, you guys are like kind of similar.

Yeah, just kind of vibes, right?

Not really any investigation.

Yeah, vibes, right?

No investigation.

Theory is for LARPers.

Theory is for LARPers.

Just a bunch of buzzwords and stuff.

No actual arguments.

I get it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Of course.

All right, anything else?

What do you what what is what is the big Hazard's opinion on the KP do?

The German?

Yes.

From the nineteen thirties?

Yes, from the nineteen thirties.

They were too late.

They should have got on that A game earlier, but uh why?

No, 'cause I I want I want to ask what's your opinion on the third period thesis and like should Tailman have hidden the Widorf Affair?

Should he what?

Should Tailman have hidden the Widorf Affair?

Like the Wid Torf Affair when uh one of Tailmann's allies was embezzling funds and Tailman hid it and the conciliators come in KPD occurs.

Should he have hid that from what is the relation of that to the third period?

Well because the conciliators were against the third period and the water for fair was the excuse that uh Teilman and his allies used to purge the conciliators and cemented the third period thesis.

Yeah, so that would be the correct thing to do.

Talman was correct.

I mean, I think he was correct too, but why why do you think that?

Because if the purpose is to remove conciliators who would change the party line in a false direction, then the means by which that's done are completely justified, regardless.

Mm.

Well, um, I I would be inclined to agree, and I also think that um social democrats emphasize too much the SPD's quote unquote willingness to cooperate when the SPD banned the RFP on the May Day celebrations.

What's your question?

My question is, um so you support the K P D, but yet you support national Bolshevism when the K P D was against that.

Curious.

National Bolsh uh first of all, I don't support

I just refuse to denounce the National Bolsheviks of Russia.

Uh doesn't mean I what do you mean support?

They never existed in the thirties.

Ernest Nikish and those National Bolsheviks were irrelevant marginal LARPers from the post-war period of the World War One, completely irrelevant in Germany.

And so they didn't even exist.

The Russian National Bolsheviks is a punk rock youth subculture that emerged in the post-90s period.

Um no, I understand that, but I'm I'm talking about like the ASPD, um all those all those parties that espoused sort of syncretic uh views between fascism and communism.

The K P D denounced those.

So which party?

The which A A S P D?

Yeah, ASPD split from the S P D because yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I mean completely has nothing to do with the Russian national Bolsheviks.

Why would you say that when they're both like uh at their core they're both uh syncretizing fascism and socialism?

Because that's not what the Russian national Bolsheviks were doing.

Okay, fascism um doesn't just mean you're be adopting provocative aesthetics to trigger liberals.

I'm sorry.

Fascism is a concrete phenomena, okay?

It's just it means something.

Well, I'm aware that it means something, but like there is no.

No, it means something material.

It doesn't just mean you're adopting aesthetics that are edgy to trigger liberals, which is what the Russians.

It means an authoritarian.

Oh, that's a liberal word.

No, it means what Dmitrov defined it as, which is the dictatorship of imperialist finance capital.

The open dictatorship, the open terrorist dictatorship.

That's what it is.

All right.

Well, I mean, I would define it more like dictatorship of the bourgeoisie.

Well, not dictatorship of the bourgeoisie, but a state allied with the bourgeoisie to oppress the bourgeoisie.

Yeah, and the NSDAP also fought with um Jewish bankers and Jewish bonds.

No, it didn't.

That's the the big myth.

I don't know why you keep perpetuating that.

Hold on, Gabby.

Listen to me, Gabby.

I'm not interested in you.

You're not my type.

So I don't know why you're talking to me, Gabby.

Gabby, I'm not.

You're not my type.

Please stop trying to flirt with me in the chat.

Anyway, uh,.

What else did you have to say?

Mm.

Just impro you should read more theory.

Like State and Revolution is like a really good book.

You should read that.

I okay.

Yeah, I I I totally haven't read State and Revolution.

You're right.

What an incredible thing to say.

Uh Apple user.

Go ahead.

By the way, Gabby, uh the the bouncy bend, low testosterone bouncy bend boy.

Uh the fact he needs a rematch is a concession that I won.

So let's be honest.

And by the way, who's avoiding anything?

And Gabby, stop flirting with me, okay?

We all know what you're doing.

You're not my type.

Go ahead, Apple.

Go ahead.

Hey, I'm I'm just curious on what the major difference between the ACP and the PSL really are.

Um

The major difference is that we don't have we don't enforce oh my god, I got restricted because Gabby's aggressively flirting with me.

I got restricted.

That's incredible.

The PSL is bases its strategy on Democrat Alliance protests.

We are trying to build dual power.

That's basically one of the profound material differences.

Gabby, thanks for restricting it because your aggressive flirting was so.

Oh, good day, mate.

Hey, I'm not a commie or anything.

I just wanted to talk about it a little bit.

From what I understand.

I don't like people who just like introduce themselves.

Just get to the point, you know?

User, go ahead.

Go ahead.

Yo, hello.

Yeah.

Oh, fuck, Australians.

Yeah, you're you know what?

I I'm not I'm I don't I'm not gonna talk to an Australian right now because it's 2 a.m.

for me and you guys are just like Zippity Doo da Zip it.

You're just woke up in the f fucking morning.

You know, you, oh, the sun is out and you're sipping your orange juice and you're just on your and I'm fucking tired.

I don't want to talk to you.

All right.

It's an insult.

Anyway

Uh we're wrapping this up because I got censored by uh Shabbat Shalom censored me.

Larry Ellison censored me.

Shabbat Shalom, Shabbat Shalom, everyone.

Shalom Shabbat, everyone.

Stop censoring me.

We're done this five.

Guys, I'm leaving.

Bye.

My food is cold.

Bye bye.