FBI AFTER ME! | IRAN CEASEFIRE
2026-04-08T01:59:35+00:00
We're international, so international, so international.
You can't test me for all.
I'm overseas and about 100 cheese for sure.
Don't test me for all.
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feel about through the death of me
cream in my body
and let the ocean
have what's left in me
but for now
forget about that
blow the whistle
baby you're the rest of room
you're going to die
like New York
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wild like
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my fantasy Hot's in Miami
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But I touch down
Everywhere
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Everywhere I don't play baseball
But I've hit a home run Everywhere
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The cities I can't pronounce
In the places on the globe
I ain't no existent
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Tell me Pitt
You can have me and my sister
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A bomb man in Greece
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Like New York City
I've never seen
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I ain't talking credit cards, if you know what I mean.
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I'm going to be in Miami, one's fantasy. I'm good than Miami.
I'm going to be.
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good.
International love.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, yeah.
International love.
They're looking for visas.
I ain't talking credit cards.
If you know what I mean.
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There's not a place
that your love
gonna affect me,
baby
so don't ever change
I cross the globe
when I'm with you baby
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appreciate you bro middle age with the five appreciate y'all appreciate y'all First things first,
My Iraqi beard is coming in
Hey, what's up guys?
I got the police on my trail doing about a hundred miles an hour.
All right, sorry, what's going on?
Yeah, the FBI's after me.
FBI's been investigating me.
I've been, uh been under FBI investigation.
And that's because I'm somebody who speaks their mind.
I'm not one of these bitch-ass.
What do you call them?
I mean, they're always complaining about transgenderes and stuff but these
are really some bitch made like type man tities uh you know bitch made punk ass bitches these 15
percent of americans these quartering these these captive dreamers, these, all the people really who were celebrating, finding out that the feds are trying to persecute me, that the government's persecuting.
Zagonel is what I'm going to call. Make a tweet about it. Menopausal men.
Which, they're even worse than transgender, if you think about it.
At least let transgenders be. They're not harming us.
But these people, they're a bunch of menopausal, middle-aged men, Gen X, they're declining,
rapidly declining T-levels,
talking big shit on my name
as if I'm a victim and I'm
I'm, um, you know,
they're winning, basically.
You're a little bitch. I mean, we're all going to die one day, you little pussy,'re winning, basically. You're a little bitch.
I mean, we're all going to die one day,
you little pussy.
You little bitch made...
It's like, look, I'm going to be straight up.
I see one of these people
I'll beat the brakes off of them
because they need to be...
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,
it's all comedy.
It's a comedy show, is it not? Hey, look, hey, hey. It's all comedy. It's a comedy show, is it not?
Hey, look, you know, no, we all die eventually.
And I'd rather live as a man with aura, a man with purpose, a man with... Who's got big balls, basically.
Versus these people, they're a bunch of...
They're not even men.
What do you call them?
I kid you not.
Captive Dreamer.
All these...
I don't even know all their names.
The right-wing menopausal men, they sit with their
legs crossed and they go to wine bars and they're just kind of, they have a metrosexual twang
in their voice and they type big tough, they type like tough guys on Twitter.
They type on their phones,
on their smartphones,
like they're tough guys.
But if they were in my shoes,
they would have shit their pants multiple times.
I mean,
let's just think about it.
I've been in conflict zones.
I went to
the funeral of Sayyad, Hassan Nasrallah.
I don't give
a fuck what happens to me. You know what I mean?
These people would shit their pants
if they live the life that I live. I'm just
not going to lie. Chairman
of the American Communist Party with that target on your back, but you know, I'm just not going to lie. Chairman of the American Communist Party
with that target on your back.
But you know, I'm basically saying, I'm basically walking
with my nuts hanging, bitch.
I'm basically walking around with my nuts
hanging saying I don't give a fuck.
You don't think I know what I'm doing?
Being the Communist Party chairman walking around with my
fucking giant nuts out hanging you bitch this is my fucking life that i live because i'm a man i'm a lion
and you are a little bitch.
You are a menopausal declining testosterone, Gen X, Goyim cattle.
If I get shot in the head right now, if I get bombed right now, if I get killed and assassinated, I would have lived the life of a lion.
Do you understand?
Why the fuck would I live any other life?
Nobody should feel bad for me, by the way.
Because why the fuck would I want to live any other life?
You think I want to live like these
anonymous
howling mutant? Do you think I want
to live like these people who sit at their fucking office
desk and are terrified of showing their face
because they're going to get fired by their daddy, their sugar daddy bosses?
You think I want to live like these fucking people?
You think I want to live the life of Gunther Eagleman?
And that's who I admire.
Have I seen them in person straight up?
I mean, you talk that shit.
I mean, you're going to be confronted about it for sure.
But, uh, I don't know, all the people that were celebrating the news, it's like,
why do you think this is a win for you, bitch?
I know, how is this a win for you?
First of all, what's it going to take to wake up Americans?
What's it going to take for you people, for all the American people to realize?
They get me this way.
What laws have I fucking broken?
All I've done is live the life of a dignified free man who expresses their opinion independently of what the powers
that be think i've operated within the confines of the law i haven't broken the law i haven't violated
any laws and yet they're persecuting me and they're using our tax dollars to fucking do that
they're going to do that to everybody so unless you want to live the life of a castrated bitch,
as much as these people are crying all the time about transgender,
they have no balls,
they're castrated,
rapidly declining testosterone levels because they're menopausal.
You can, I mean, I can't, honestly, my patience, I have infinite patience,
but I have to think about a specific demographic of retarded Americans,
the hell diver gamer demographic.
America!
The unironic fucking epic bacon.
Epic bacon Americans.
They'll see news that the Communist Party chairman is getting persecuted.
Oh, commies's heck off!
You are Goyim.
I don't know what to tell you.
You are literally just, there's something about you that's just less than human, to be honest.
Wasabi, what's up?
You're just less than human.
It's like, who cares about me?
Do you know what kind of precedent that?
No, no, you don't care.
Of course you don't.
But just like your fathers didn't care, by the time, I'm going to fucking go there. Just like your fathers didn't care. Of course you don't. But just like your fathers didn't care by that, I'm going to fucking go there.
Just like your fathers didn't care during the Cold War, when they also jumped on the fucking anti-communist bandwagon.
From the post-war period until now, Americans, there's not a single population on Earth, more cuckolded, more humiliated, more deprived of their rights than the American people. And it's because the fathers of these same people were also fucking cuckolds. I'm going to go ahead and say their fathers and their fathers' fathers were a cuckolded
race who ate up the McCarthyite anti-communist slop like the Goyim cuck cattle that they are,
just to pass the baton to a cuckolded, castrated generation after them, who does what, does what, collects funco pops, plays hells divers, and spreads heck off commie memes on the fucking internet. You're in debt and you're a slave because your cuck fathers and their fathers bowed before
the propaganda of the american state machine because when they were targeting the communists
during the 50s during the 60s you fucking cheerleaded it it's time for some responsibility and some
reflection it's time for some responsibility and some reflection. It's time for some responsibility
and some reflection, actually. This is a cuckolded, sedentary population, a defeated and conquered
people. And you think you can talk some shit on me? You think you can talk some shit on me.
You are a defeated cuck slave.
You're worse than that.
You're a literal cheerleader.
You're a free cheerleader for the regime.
And you think this makes me look bad?
I will live and die as a free man
until my last breath.
Okay, you're going to live 75 years.
Who gives a fuck?
Honestly, life is not that long.
It's really not that long to be talking all that big shit.
Oh, who fucking cares are you about are you
gonna live and die as a free man are you gonna be a cuckold bitch slave i'm not living the life of
a of a of a captive dreamer i'm not gonna live uh like the man titty's quartering i'm not
gonna be living this life of these
metrosexual gamer menopausal men. These epic game the epic bacon. Yeah, they have a beard
for sure because they, um, they bought man man, man, uh, care products, like dude wipes and stuff that they rub on their face to grow the hair. I understand. Mine is natural, but it's okay. Uh, but then they, you know, they have these giant beards, the epic bacon manscapers.
They have these giant beards.
And then when they open their mouth,
I really think that what President Trump is doing?
Yeah, I really think that what President Trump is doing is extremely justified.
They have this metrosexual twang in their voice.
They have these giant beards and they have these AR-15s.
But then when they open their mouth, this is how they sound.
Do you even know anything about the principles of economics?
Do you even know about economics?
They have this metrosexual twang in their voice while they drink their black rifle coffee. You think I admire you? Oh, you're not being
persecuted by the government, but why would I want to be like you? You're not even human in my eyes, right?
So these are the fit, by the way, these are the remaining 15% of people who still support the current regime and the current administration.
By the way, I'm lying.
Do you understand?
I'm lying. I you understand, I'm lying.
I am saber-toothed tiger.
I don't have to live this life of a cuckold slave who, it gets scared.
Fuck it.
Should I say some shit?
Okay, fuck it. Should I say some shit? Okay, fuck it.
I say everything.
I got aura from that shit.
I open, I'm like, damn, that's aura.
Am I fucking crazy?
I don't give a fuck, bitch.
I don't give a fuck.
I would be disappointed if they wasn't
investigating me.
That shows I'm no threat.
I would be disappointed.
I'm like, shit.
Okay, aura.
100%.
And then these people,
Captive Dreamer,
Oh, I hope I's ghost of prison.
Bitch, do you know who I am?
Do you know who I am?
You're literally, I'm literally going to enslave you one day,
Captive Dreamer.
I'm going to enslave you.
I'm going to put you in chains.
You will literally be a slave. Sorry.
But, look, I'm a good faith person. I understand a lot of people are uneducated about communism. I understand a lot of people. But listen, just because you're a cuckold
slayer, you're talking about your father and his father's cuckold slave lineage, where they were
convinced to be anti-communist by the pederast, pedophile financial capitalist class,
and then you're going to bring that energy upon me
and start talking shit on me and being aggressive with me
because you don't like communists.
I will bitch-slapp you into the concrete.
You come up to me with that.
I will put me in a self-defense situation.
I will bitch- will bitch slap you into
concrete i'm not jesus christ i am not i'm not here to die for your sins i'm here to
defend and assert the rights of the communist party. Do you understand?
Who in turn is fighting for the American people? Sure.
But we communists, we have our own dignity. We walk upright. We walk with our nuts hanging out. We are free men. If you're a communist, if you are Bolshevik, you are a free
man. You understand? I live the life of a free man. If you're a communist, if you are Bolshevik, you are a free man. You understand? I live
the life of a free man. Ain't nobody going to infringe upon my dignity. Some random-ass bitch,
epic bacon, brainwashed piece of shit, quote tweeting me and in my replies.
You know, the other day I saw this this gay.
No, no, it's okay.
That's their life, but they're, you know,
one of these closeted gays, basically.
Autistic.
One of these menopausal
Gen X, when these people that have
meme folders with the helicopter
memes and the 50s
ironic memes like, how about a
nice cup of shut the fuck up? Remember those
Facebook memes that
the low IQ
would share from the
19th, the ironic 50s
style of whatever
that Gen X people still cling to who play
hell divers.
Comey tears. Yeah,
anyway, one of them replied to my post by the way this post attracted more negative responses from the american right than anything i've ever posted on x and the reason is because all i did was make a post with a dog.
And that's like the mandate of heaven for white Americans. So as soon as these
goy slaves, slave
of Zionist Jews, whipped,
literally whipped, they're in chains.
That's why I don't see him as human. Like,
when I take over, you are still
going to be a slave. I will take you. You're the property of Zionists. You'll become our
property. You will clean the shit in our toilets. But you're a slave. You're still in chains. We're
just going to seize you as a property. You're literally a property. You're a movable type.
Guerrillo, what's up?
Anyway, these slaves were sent by the Zionists, the Mossad types, whatever, they got the memo.
Shut it down!
Shut it down!
The Arab is with the dog.
Americans love that. So they had to go and shut it down. The ARAB is with a dog. Americans love that. So they had to
go and shut it down.
An innocent post of me next to a dog.
They
were sent into a, you know,
they activated those cheap Air Force
bots.
Anyway, one of these
one of these
man titty menopausal middle age men,
they replied
and they're like,
this is the frog of ratio.
Like this, if this
gets more likes than the original post, then it sucks. And then all the
goofy goober, 47-year-old men, uh, you know, with their, with their dude wipes and their
black rifle coffee, they saw it. We're, with their, with their dude wipes and their black rifle coffee,
they saw it.
We're supposed to believe that it got
1,000 impressions
and about 700 likes,
which means we're supposed to believe
that every, basically every impression
it got one person engaged with it, which doesn't
exist on X, by the way. So, okay, if you want to know what that actually means, they were botting.
And then I just kind of thought to myself, okay, you're using bots. You block all of my people.
I thought of something pretty devious and devilish.
I was like, okay, if it gives you satisfaction to ratio me,
I'm just going to hide your reply and block you.
And then they couldn't ratio me.
You look at it
Now they couldn't
It's like
Why am I not
I'm just gonna hide
You reply
You fucking bitch
It's not
You think I'm running
From confrontation
With you
I don't hide where I am
You can find me
In person
Or you can
Fucking debate me
Any type of confrontation
I will, you know, if I'm
forced or whatever, you know what I mean? Any type
of confrontation, I'm not running from it though, right?
So you want to play this like game.
You want to use these bots. I will just hide your reply
and block you and shut you me you think
you can just be in my replies for free and just it's a it's a free speech zone uh no i'm just gonna
fucking completely decimate you just like you're decimating,
declining testosterone levels, because you're a menopausal middle-aged man.
You fucking pussy. You fucking have AR-15s, and you go to the range.
And I know y'all put those headphones on when you're at the range.
You tough guys. You have to do it right and you confuse your cowardice with you know technical expertise on how to handle firearms
and then you have me who fires a
PKM light machine gun
without any here
anything no hearing anything
I don't have ear plugs I don't have the
special thing I just fucking do it
because I have big balls
literally suck my dick bitch
you gun gun enthusiast
fucking pussies
you're nothing you're like
you know I saw did you guys see that shit
where they're like Idaho has more
I just have to it's so cringy.
It's so fucking cringy.
Idaho, guns, Canada.
I have to show you this gay, extremely gay.
Extremely gay menopausal.
Just, it's giving big time
hell divers. This is exactly what
I'm talking about. These are the people that I'm talking
about. Like, this is their
entire existence, their sense of humor,
everything about them is this.
Ready?
First of all, look at this extremely, you know, submissive looking, low testosterone,
menopausal, metrosexual pose that they're doing, and there's not even a video playing.
But you should see this and you should understand what we're up against.
The people that are saying they want to kill commies like homath, the homath, the gay guy
screaming about how he can get no pussy, he's 50 years old, he gets no bitches, and he's screaming and crying about it all day
this is them by the way these are the people talking that big shit to us yeah you think
if you think if they say this shit to me and they put me in a self-defense situation i'm not
gonna slap these people into the concrete. Epic Bacon! Epic bacon.
Epic.
Look at this manscaped.
Look at this manscaped male.
Look at this epic bacon manscaped male.
This guy talking shit about transgender's.
This is a transgender.
That's not a man.
They have transmogrified into something else.
And maybe, you know what?
There are more than two genders.
Because this is neither a man nor a woman.
This is some third thing, some fourth thing, some fifth thing.
Definitely on the estrogenic side of the spectrum, you know, since it's a spectrum.
But for certain, for certain, I know that they were right when they said there's more than two genders.
Now I know they are because it's not a man, it's not a woman.
It's definitely some third, fourth, fifth, sixth, something that we haven't qualified or classified.
Definitely has a...
Definitely menstruating.
Definitely menopausal.
Definitely metrosexual.
Definitely not a man.
Definitely extremely gay. But even in a way that would make
gays think it's gay. Even the gays think this is gay. That's how gay it is. Even gays say this
is gay. That's how extremely, I i mean flaming gay this is even the gays are cringing they're saying
you know this you know what even this video has the gays saying, all right, roll back the gay marriage. Roll back the rights. Just roll it back. Roll it back. It was all a mistake. This is too far. Even they're questioning whether they should have rights after seeing this. These are the people who complain about
transgender for a living, by the way.
Can you believe it?
They're picking on these transgenders.
Most of whom I would say are not
bothering anyone.
Most of whom, I think,
live peaceful lives
and their whole life they think they're tough men
because this is their life crying about transgenders all day
okay meet a real man like me bitch
I have never met a single one of you people who have said shit to my face my
entire fucking life, by the way. You know, uh, anyway, you know, it's like, uh, okay, all they can, and then
they cry and they, I'm a big threat. I'm a terrorist. Haas, you're a terrorist.
You're an Islamic terrorist.
Okay, we get it.
Shabbat Shalom.
We get it.
Shalom.
Shalom.
Shalom.
We get it.
We get it.
Tel Aviv Shalom.
Goyim.
We understand.
I understand Goyim. go yem we understand i understand goyem yeah they say enjoy prison enjoy prison okay you want to make you a promise i'll make a promise right now if i go to to prison, if I go to prison,
there will be no more United States of America.
Because they would have to
find a pretext for throwing me in jail
that they will inevitably use on
higher value targets. You think
I'm the highest value target? No.
So if they're going to fucking come after me,
Long guy, what's up?
Whatever illegal standard that they attempt to fucking pull out of their ass against me
for exercising my First Amendment rights,
they're going to use against some fucking Democrat or someone else.
And they're going to fucking light the flames of a civil war.
So I'm here literally fucking completely fine devoid of any cortisol.
That's how confident I am.
Devoid of any cortisol.
Oh, have fun in jail.
You think you're going to be able to terrorize and intimidate 30, 50% of the
country in this way? I'm part of the 30, 50% of the country that have just had enough, by the way.
So you think they're just going to pick me off and it's not going to have consequences for
everyone else good luck really good luck and by the way everyone's going to remember who you were
we're all going to remember you don't worry this administration's not going to last forever
trump will die eventually this will not
last forever you are 15 percent of the country right now all of us are going to remember you every
single one of us are going to remember you who cheered on state repression who cheered on killing extra judicial killings and persecution and murder
and so on and so on, we're all going to remember who you were, we're going to remember your
faces, we're going to remember where you live, we're going to remember every detail about you.
This current situation is not...
This current criminal lawless situation
that you're oinking like a pig
squealing with excitement about
is not going to last forever, I promise.
I know what's going on in the U.S. military where Pete Hegseth is fucking hated by all the fucking active duties, by all the reservists, by all the fucking personnel, by the National Guardists, even by the military hierarchy that they haven't managed to completely fucking replace with loyalists.
Everyone fucking hates the current administration.
You have no fucking ideal of what kind of country you're living in.
If you think you can simply say, throw him in, throw him in jail!
See, these critics of Israel are being harassed and persecuted by the state. And you have
Epic Bacon captive dreamer types. You have Howling Mutant Epic Bacon captive dreamer types
like this, who look like this, by the way.
Metrosexuals who have manscaped beards.
Put him in jail.
Put him in jail.
Put him in jail.
Now, Trump's send him.
No, lock him away.
He's scary. Lock him away. He's scary.
Lock him away.
These beardson.
This is a beard sin.
This is literally what they are, Beardson.
This is my head. I'm in jail.
FBI.
Put him in jail.
Put him in jail.
Even if I'm in jail.
Even if I'm in jail. Fuck it. Even if I'm in jail. Even if I'm in jail.
Fuck it.
Even if I'm shot and killed.
I live the life of a free man.
What do you think victory?
I mean, I don't understand this civilization.
Do you think victory means that you are
comfy? Is that victory?
You have a woman's understanding of victory.
Even then I think women are
less shallow.
You have a child's understanding
of what it means to win.
To you, victory means being comfy.
Okay, so I suppose Napoleon, when he was exiled to St. Helena, after Waterloo, I guess he won because he was living a comfy life, right?
That's how it works.
You fucking retard.
Absolute fucking retards. What kind of civilization is that? What kind of morals are these?
What kind of values? They're not of men.
Yeah. Victory is when you're comfortable. That's what victory. That's what it means to win in life.
Just being comfortable.
Just sitting on your couch and playing video games.
And you know what these subhumans call it?
They call it vidia.
By the way, this guy, he calls it Vidia.
Kill them all in a video game.
I mean, what the hell?
Gavin Newsom, just kill them all in a video game.
I'm sorry.
Like, you know, in the Bolsheviks that they put down the Tambov rebellion with gas?
I don't know.
If we could just funnel the gas into, you know, gamer PCs somehow,
if we, in a legal way, if Gavin Newsom takes power,
and we could just have a law
signed into Congress that
I don't know
poison gas is going to come out of the
gamer PCs of people who
look like this
the world
might be better off for it.
Anyway, guys, I'll be right back.
Give me one second.
The FBI is here.
Give me a second. You know, Sorry, guys. The FBI just took me to jail because I hurt Captain Dreamers' feelings,
a Canadian. And
Drew Pevlu, I was
just in jail because I hurt their feelings.
Because the commies make them uncomfy.
Freaking commies.
This is just like the 50s, ironic
50s. This is fallout. These is fallout. These
metrosexual menopausal declining testosterone males. Why are you even looking in my direction,
bitch? It's like, your slave, you're a slave. slave slave cannot look me in the eyes
don't look in my direction slave
you are slave of Zionist Jews
we're not even gonna
we don't acknowledge you as a subject
when we defeat the Zionists
we're just going to take you as property
just like when we seize the means of production defeat the Zionists, we're just going to take you as property.
Just like when we seize the means of production, you will be part of that.
You are not human.
You are a category.
You are an object.
You are a thing.
Groyper's claim to it was because of Tyler Robinson But they were just joking
You know
It's just like a really funny troll
Like 30 years old
But we're trolling like you know
We're just yeah it's just like a troll
We're 30 years old so don't worry
Um
Yeah Yeah we're 30 years old so don't worry um yeah no look it's all it's the internet it's the
internet somber what's up it's the internet but i okay i'll give you my honest take.
Every single person who has cheerleaded the current regime in its foreign interventions, whether it's Venezuela, whether it's, I'll give you my actual serious take.
I support the persecution to the utmost degree with maximal consequences.
The entirety of the U.S. population, the 15% who support the actions of the current regime that are unconstitutional.
If you support the illegal unconstitutional actions of the regime,
whether it pertains to foreign interventions,
or the persecution of American citizens of conscience,
or Americans in general of conscience,
for their free speech and for their views,
if you were a cheerleader,
if you tried to give this moral support in any kind of way whatsoever,
I believe in Nuremberg trials for you.
I absolutely support any,
the worst possible outcome
occurring to you.
Because you are basically, it's like we're all in a prison right now and these are the snitches.
You got to think about it like that.
We're all in prison right now.
And these are the snitches.
And our morals and our ethics are such that we don't care what happens to snitches.
You are the lowest of the low. You are literally beyond our ability to recognize as human.
We're all in a prison right now in America under this occupation. And these are
the snitches. These are the collaborators.
These are like the Vichy collaborators.
And by the way, half of them are foreign.
Drew Pavlou
in these types. That's okay. Precision
missiles, heat-seeking missiles can deal with
Drew Pavlou.
And I never wanted it to get to this level. Before anyone claims, I'm inhuman. Before anyone claims, what happened to your human values? Why are you? Listen, I, from 2021 until 24, let's say, when infrared was first tier, there was no one more humanistic than me when it comes to this.
There was nobody more, you know, I support dialogue.
There was nobody more, you know, I don't believe we should, you know, take it to this level,
you know, just say, what's up? Differences of opinions should never translate into losing a grasp or a comprehension of someone's humanity.
But when they jumped the gun and started this precedent, I mourned not just for everyone but even for myself because I realized if we are to survive in this new environment if we're able to exist in this new world
we have to operate where the law of the jungle prevails.
We cannot have any regard for the humanity when they are the aggressor,
when they're actively, actively disregarding the humanity of others,
when they're actively violating all red lines, crossing all red lines without limits, without any morals whatsoever, literally the morals of beasts and wild animals.
We're in the jungle now.
I can't vouch for the humanity of these people because we're focused on completely
neutralizing their ability
to do harm to
both the people in our own country
and the people of the world.
And by the way,
we all knew Trump's bitch ass wasn't going to
do shit in Iran.
I knew that at least.
I hope everyone else did.
But in any case, it's the mere pretence to ending an entire civilization.
I mean, on the one hand, it's like, should you even take that seriously in the sense of,
should you even entertain that, right?
But on the other hand, it's like...
It's like the fact that this is the posture people have, the fact that they're providing discursive and moral,
basically put it this way.
At some level,
the discursive and moral cheerleading
by these people
is enabling the regime to get away with what they're doing.
Because the buck stops at the second
lowest chain of command if jd vance can you know suppress whatever conscience he might have
by opening x and reading captive dream's tweets and the chain of command below him and below him and below.
These people, by the way, who do you think follows Captive Dreamer and the rest of these types?
It's people in the regime who are looking for some kind of discursive and moral cover for these outright depraved and criminal actions.
So if they could just open X and feel content that they have this justification of some kind,
they will absolutely take and seize every opportunity they can, every
opening, every out, to continue doing what they're doing.
Even if it confines them to this echo chamber of psychopaths who comprise maybe 15% of the U.S. population.
I mean, Captain Dreamer doesn't even have 80,000 followers, or he has only 80,000.
He doesn't even have 100,000 followers.
And yet he's so influential? who do you think is boosting him?
It goes for others as well, right?
And then you have Cat Turd and Gunther Eagleman and so on and so on.
But these are the people who are enabling the regime
by providing it with the discursive and moral cover
that it needs on an operational capacity even to just get the people who work for the regime
to continue doing what they're doing. Think about that. The regime has employees. It has people working for the government. They need a way. They need to have some kind of morale to continue doing what they're doing. All of the people giving them that morale right now are criminals. They're absolutely culpable in the crimes of the regime and when this regime
falls hell even if when this administration falls um whatever happens to them
first of all square one is whatever happens to them
we support if it's negative
100% any bad thing that happens to them
they get what's coming to them they are criminals
they do deserve it
I used to absolutely be a free speech person who said
no no this isn't about free speech anymore free speech assumes that the constitution is being
upheld it's not they are cheerleading for our free speech to be taken away. And the regime is taking our free speech
away. So it's collaborators, the people running cover for it. We should not see humanity in them.
They need to be treated like Vichy collaborators were when the Vichy regime was overthrown. They need to be treated like Vitchie collaborators were when the Vichy regime
was overthrown. They need to be
seen as like in prison
how you see snitches. Because
we're in prison right now and these are the
snitches. These are the collaborators.
So absolutely I can give every necessary justification.
All current regime shills, whether their shilling is purely propagandistic or something else
you know
they should be tried
as the criminals that they are
and be suppressed
and you know
we should not worry let's say Gavin News newsome takes power by the way i think the
democrats would do the things trump threatens to do by the way that's the difference
democrats are absolutely ruthless trump is morally rhetorically ruthless.
Democrats would actually fucking do it.
In any case,
if Gavin Newsom takes power,
he's going to try to persecute all of us for certain.
But he's also going to maybe hopefully
persecute these people but the sad part is it's wishful it's wishful thinking
because i remember in February 22 during the SMO, the bots that I was dealing with, are the same ones that are now being used to defend the Trump regime.
And that's absolutely what we're talking about here.
There's a continuity of the regime.
That's just across administrations.
And it just, it glows in the dark.
That's how you could tell.
It quite literally just glows in the dark. That's how you could tell. It quite literally just glows in the dark. That's what it is. It just fucking glows, right? And that's really what we're dealing with that's what it means when we say glowie right but um so i want everyone to be on the same page when it comes to, you know, the current persecution level that we should expect these people to experience.
Regardless, I mean, it's no longer about defending free speech.
The defensive free speech doesn't apply to the people actively cheerleading and supporting the destruction of our Constitution.
Frankly.
Frankly.
Now, of course, we're law-abiding, follow all the laws.
But the current regime is not going to last forever. And yes, the day will come when there will be no laws or order for that matter to speak of.
But the American Communist Party will still be around.
So I want to be absolutely clear about that, frankly.
You know, cat turd, all these type of people.
It's like, you know, we didn't want it to get to this point, but they pushed it to that point, and it's as simple as that.
Anyway, yeah, the FBI is investigating me.
Big news.
I suspect this was triggered by my visit to Lebanon
given the timing of the gag order, but
I'm in consultation
with legal
expertise and we'll get to the bottom
of it precisely.
Any case, again, I
have no fear or no regret. Simple as that, i have no fear no regret uh simple as that i have no fear i have no regret when it comes to that
and additionally regarding this news of the iran ceasefire.
It's quite interesting because
there's a huge degree of ambiguity
as far as
what has actually been agreed upon.
After sifting through all of the fake news and information, here's what I can gather as far as what's happened when it comes to the ceasefire.
Trump does not have the balls to promise, to do what he promised.
And I'll tell you why he wasn't going to do it.
It's really simple, actually.
But what's been agreed
upon is that there's going to be a ceasefire
and that the United States
will consider
negotiations
that begin with, you know, it's going to entertain the 10 points.
So has the U.S. acquiesced Iran's 10 points? No. But they will be considered during negotiations.
Now, I hope, and I think perhaps the IRGC and Iran know what they're doing.
Maybe they need the two weeks.
After all, there's a lot of equipment that Iran destroyed that needs years to repair. Maybe weeks for
them are much more precious. I don't know. I could tell you for certain that Iran was not
scared Trump was going to follow through on his threat to end their, quote unquote, end their
civilization or use nuclear weapons
or anything like that.
And I'll tell you why.
If Trump
attacked Iran's power plants,
let's just begin there.
If Trump attacked Iran's power plants, no, no, if Trump attacked Iran's oil fields, let's put it that way.
What Iran would do is wipe Qatar, the Emirates, and economically, Saudi Arabia off the map.
Qatar would probably be done, genocided, exterminated.
Saudi Arabia, considerable portion of its population would be killed.
It would be economically incapacitated for certain all its oil fields would be destroyed.
Iran would destroy the oil fields across the entire Gulf, including the Emirates, and plunged the entire world into decades of chaos and strife and overnight basically collapse the entire global system,
end the United States of America as we know it,
and plunge the entire world into chaos, armed conflict, civil war, resource wars, shortages, blackouts in America,
you fucking name it. If Trump followed through on 5% of the consequences implied by ending Iran as a civilization.
Forget about nukes. Forget about
ending it as a civilization. Just
if he struck their power plants,
Iran would have plunged the entire
world into darkness.
Forever.
I mean, not forever. forever for decades at least
maybe maybe half a century
who knows
the world would take a long time to recover
and it would be an ugly
chaotic world
so Trump to be clear did not ever have the balls. Nobody should have taken
Trump seriously when he said he's going to end Iran as a civilization. Trump is not
ballsy. He doesn't do these apocalyptic crazy things.
And all you have to know is this. Would Trump survive in a post-apocalyptic world?
Before you worry about Trump bringing on the apocalypse, ask yourself the basic question.
Would Donald Trump survive a post-apocalyptic world? No.
Would Haas survive a post-apocalyptic world?
Yes.
Would Trump?
Absolutely not.
Would IRGC commanders and
Iranians
and Hezbollah
and people
of that, people who are built like that, would they survive a post-apocalyptic world?
Yes.
Would Trump?
No.
Would captive dreamer?
No.
Captive Dreamer would be mutilated and tortured and skinned and tortured for days perhaps weeks in really
gruesome brutal ways uh that goes for gunther eagleman cat tur Turd, Howling Mutant, I'm learning about all these people.
Cala Yuga, pedophile, Beardson, Nick Fuentes.
They would not survive a post-apocalyptic world.
They would be immediately perhaps eaten.
Perhaps they'd be eaten if there were food shortages.
Perhaps worse things would happen to them that I won't even name.
Definitely tortured.
They would be definitely skinned alive, definitely brutalized in very gruesome ways.
And the best life they could hope for is being enslaved, really.
They would have just chains. they would be in chains maybe they would be enslaved by some local warlord or something that's not the type of world they
would want to live in. I would be really
ugly for them.
In a...
No, not in a video game. In a post-apocalyptic
scenario,
these people,
if you can call them that, would not
thrive. I can say that. I don't need to say in a video
game i can say i can speculate and give the analytical conclusion that it would they would not fare
well so whenever they make world-ending threats, understand
that they will never follow through with them
because they're not prepared for the consequences.
Especially Trump.
Especially Trump is not.
Trump doesn't have enough support.
Again, the 15% of Americans who support Donald Trump look like the guy that I just showed you,
metrosexual, menopausal, middle-aged gamers.
Those are not people who are actually, okay, do you want to understand why they'll never win a civil war?
Maybe you could clip this.
You want to know why the Trump's supporting right will never win a civil war?
Because in order to win a war of any kind, you have to be willing to die.
You have to actually put your life on the line and be brave enough to die for what you believe in. When you look at the ways in which they rationalize or respond to examples of people being martyred, people who are dissidents, who are persecuted,
people who are that brave, you can immediately see they're not built like that. Because they're always
laughing at them and posturing how you lose i won
see for a martyr
you didn't win i want i live as a lion i died as a lion right
but they don't see it that way when your life is terminated and you can no longer
play video and you can no longer play video and you can no longer
masturbate to child anime porn which is what they do don't make a mistake of it
when you can no longer consume and live a useless louing, hedonistic life, like a captive dreamer or whoever else,
these subhumans, humans, right?
For that to be terminated is what defeat is to them.
And so when they sit in their luxury and comfort and watch people getting killed or persecuted or thrown in jail or something for their beliefs, and they scoff
at that and they go, ha ha ha, ha, you lose.
They're showing their ass to the world.
In a scenario where they would have to actually fight a war
of some kind,
their defeat is certain. Because unless you're willing to take the risk of
putting your life on the line, you don't stand a chance. There's always going to be an enemy who is.
And you will always choose comfort over honor, which means you are what Aristotle called a natural slave.
You are born and bred. You are meant and destined to be a slave. That's what you are. You made the choice. You're a slave. Whether you made a choice or whether you were born that way, we can only speculate.
But you have the morals of a slave. You're not willing to put your life on the line for anything.
Forget about putting your life online. You're not even willing to put your career on the line. That's why these people are
anonymous. So because this is, these are the terms of victory and defeat that are meaningful to you,
you are signaling to people like me
that when shit hits the fan,
I'm coming right for you.
I mean, you are easy pickings.
That's what you're signaling to people like me
who are about some real ass shit.
You know?
If there was no law anymore,
if there was no government anymore,
if nobody was enforcing any laws,
if everything just collapsed,
how would these people survive?
How would they be able to posture and how would they even be able to maintain any pretense when people like me exist who actually
have a life that is purposeful,
who actually devote their life to something,
like literally devote everything that they exist for to something.
How would they be able to fare when people like me are their competition?
They wouldn't.
And it's as simple as that.
And they can talk shit on the internet all they want, and they can jibber and posture
all they want.
But nothing is going to change the fact that when they are actually actually forced is shit going to collapse yes yes it is i wish people saw that with the same level of clarity that I do.
People just tend not to think holistically.
They tend not to think long term.
They tend not to consider the fact that uh well look the american empire has existed since the post-war period
but the last real war that America fought was World War II.
I would say it was the Civil War, actually, but let's just be generous and say it was World War II.
It tested us as a nation, tested our resolve, tested our industrial, productive capacity. B. The You know, The The President The Thank you. You know, Thank you. Wands if you can hear me.
All right.
And whoever said buy a new cable, you're retarded.
All right, I bought a new cable.
I'm being fucked with 100% but whatever anyway I don't care I don't I literally don't care yeah the last time we were
tested as a nation was World War II okay That was the last real war.
And the reason it was our last real war is because it tested the loyalty of this nation.
The entire country had to mobilize around a common goal for victory or for defeat.
Okay.
And that's what tested us.
Now, we live in a violent world.
States are violent by nature.
They rest upon violence in order to exist.
We have not been tested in nearly 100 hundred years.
It's nearly a hundred years that's passed since we have been tested, okay?
And the state cannot continue to exist if it rests upon an untested basis do you understand the ability for the state to even exist, unless it tests the populations will continuously to live and die for something, It cannot continue to exist.
And we are past the point of the state losing all moral authority.
I think we passed that point in the 60s or 70s with the Vietnam War. And after
the Vietnam War, it became about
hedonism and credit cards
and fueling consumerism.
But I think we're just about at the limit
of that as well.
I think that the ways in which
huge swaths of the population are
engaging in self-destructive behavior
shows the spiritual limits of consumerism.
And so we're really
getting to the point where war real war is demanded by the existence of this nation.
A real war. Not a war against Iran, not a war on Venezuela, not a war on Russia, not a war on China, but a war within.
Because every war that we fight abroad is a war that cannot command the morale of the population. So what's left? How can the inherent violence that is at the foundation of the existence of the state continue to have vitality and vigor if it's untested.
The only thing that tests it is a standing army willing to die for it, really.
As Hegel said, that's what Hegel understood as the significance of war.
When you don't have that, the state rests on sand, which it does.
I mean, it does.
That's why paranoia's increased. That's why it's become so internally repressive. It's not normal for states to be as repressive as they are, by the way, as ours. Endemic issues like gang violence, terrorism and gang warfare and all these kind of things.
These are features of a collapsing civilization. A civilization in a normal state has some kind of
relationship with its population that makes impossible the organic
or spontaneous
emergence of stochastic
types of terrorism and mass
shootings and stuff. A normal civilization
doesn't have those. Why?
Because there's a social contract written by blood at its foundation, where, at least in the terms of the modern state, at least, a considerable portion of the population has enforced the will and the existence of the state by attaching their own lives to it, by a willingness to sacrifice their lives for it.
And this is the foundation of a well-ordered and united society under a regime or under a
state. We don't have that. Those basic premises don't exist anymore. And so yes, a collapse is inevitable. And it's very clear and obvious to people like me who understand that
this is a the the clock is running out and it's a game of chicken fortune goes to the bold and the brave
there's a ganger is a gangbanger in Chicago somewhere right now who is waiting.
There's crazy militias in the Pacific Northwest waiting.
There's all sorts of crazy fucking people who have discovered something they consider more
valuable than their own life who are waiting.
And you can't pin it down to an ideology or a boogeyman.
You can't say this is like the Bush era and say this is because of Islamic terrorism.
It's not. It's completely chaotic.
In the absence of a united state
that gives purpose to life,
all other kinds of purposes or lack thereof
will overwhelm civilization and hijack people's biological systems, their self-preservation mechanisms for it. And that has already proliferated like a million flowers blooming, right?
And the only thing keeping it at bay is a logistical and operational capacity that is increasingly unstable and unsustainable for multiple reasons.
First reason is a breakdown in the global supply chains and resources. If there were blackouts
across the country as a consequence of the straight continuing to be closed or other major disruptions in our supply chains, there's no longer a logistical or operational capacity to maintain technological domination and control by the regime.
At the second level, the regime does in fact require a considerable human bureaucracy and personnel in order to enforce its will.
What happens when that bureaucracy becomes internally divided between
loyalists and partisans of a certain flavor or lack thereof simply divided? That's also a breakdown
in the operational and logistical capacity of the state both of these conditions have
already been met yes there's going to be a collapse uh you can absolutely be certain of it
amyla what's up with the ten appreciate you we all know it too and i wish people understood it with the same clarity that i have
i'll say that again you know
but i digress
so um to be clear, you know, how soon?
I can't, I'm not a fortune teller.
People keep asking me how soon?
I am not, what's his name?
I'm not that guy. What's his name? I'm not that guy.
What's his name?
I'm not Zoltar.
I never said I was Zoltar.
I just, I'm telling you, there's, there are logical premises.
Um,
or there are premises we can comprehend logically.
They have a rational relationship and when one or two variables are missing, you know there are going to be consequences.
You don't know when.
You don't exactly know how.
But it is logical to say that there will be a collapse
give me one second guys
my notifications are blowing up
uh people are still, people are still screaming about this tweet from yesterday with the dog.
This is fucking crazy.
This is fucking crazy. People are still, like, freaking out about it. The dog tweet. It's like a track. Holy fuck. Let me see the replies. 603 replies.
These people fuck dogs.
They worship dogs.
It's like, okay, there was a dog who gives a fuck.
They're so, like, freaked out and scared by it.
I'm hiding this anime fuck and blocking them.
Ha ha, having lived in it, no hiding your reply and blocking you.
This guy's talking about fucking dogs, hiding your reply, and blocking you. This guy's talking about fucking dogs,
hiding your reply, and blocking you.
This guy's name is Man Bear Jew,
and he's talking shit.
Goodbye. hi Haas, I lived under communism.
Hide your reply and block you.
This guy's sharing, okay.
I'll continue finding more.
But we'll put a pause on it for now, you know.
All right. put a pause on it for now you know all right i got some shit to talk about y'all i got some shit to talk i mean i wish i was on a more lighthearted mood by the way i was just had an
acp event in st. Louis, Missouri.
For all those who were in attendance,
I'm always in such a lighthearted, unsurious mood,
like such a jolly, unsurious, lighthearted mood.
Because when I'm on stream,
this is when I'm a serious motherfucker. Do you understand? So I want to go back to being light'm on stream, this is when I'm a serious motherfucker.
Do you understand?
So I want to go back to being lighthearted on stream and funny on stream.
But I was just so silly the whole time.
I feel like I have a lot to make up for.
Okay, I want to talk about the ACP social
Maybe I should save that
Okay can I can I say something guys
In ACP when there are ACP events
I was on a PSA all right
Do not have a chud-like antisocial being too serious type of shit.
All right? If it's an ACP event where we're not planning anything or getting and there's no
business going on, you guys need to be a million times more lighthearted.
You need to be like Orvo, honestly.
You need to like, make me laugh a little bit.
Make everyone, make others laugh.
I don't see enough KekWs.
I will critique.
I didn't see enough Kek Ws.
I was really fighting hard for the Kek W's.
There need to be more Kek Ws in real life, all right?
Because we're going to have plenty of time to be sad and serious with the events coming. So every fucking opportunity
you can. All right guys, let's be less
chud-like. Not everyone. I'm not saying everyone. I'm just saying overall.
Every time there's an ACP event, which
is like just chill, people oftentimes want to only focus on serious topics of conversation and serious stuff.
And I'm just kind of like, look, we need to...
Calm down a little bit, right?
We need to chill.
We can't be on this chud thing, right?
It's not even bad.
I'm not saying people are bad. I'm not saying it's bad at bad. I'm not saying people are bad.
I'm not saying it's bad at all.
I'm just saying it's like,
don't act like it's a funeral.
Don't act like it's a funeral.
Don't treat it like a funeral.
I'm not going to lie, guys.
Sometimes I'm walking in the room.
Everybody's just kind of silent.
They're just sitting down.
They're just kind of barely mumbling.
I'm like, is this a funeral?
Like, what's going on?
Right? Okay. That's going on? Right?
Okay.
That's all I'm going to say about it.
You know, we can't be treating our events like funerals, right?
Great and lighthearted, I hope.
No, Jennifer was not guilty of this at all.
Jennifer was super Kekw.
As a matter of fact,
actually, I think almost all of the ACP...
See, this is the thing, the dynamic, is just like our, the female comrades in the ACP are very pro-social and lighthearted when it comes to these events.
I'm not in the main,
and we should, we should,
you guys should,
we need to like break the chud dynamic,
I think, you know,
a little bit.
I think we need a little bit,
you know, there needs to be a little less
of the funeral, funeral atmosphere,
if I may say so.
Because we have plenty opportunity to be serious. It's a serious world we live in. We're going to,
plenty of serious things we do.
You do as a party, as chapters already. Plenty of work and sweat and blood and tears you put
into this. So when we have these ACP events that are just for fun, have fun. Just have fun. Make it
all about KekW.
So,
just make it KekW.
You know, be like Orvo.
Honestly, Orvo gets it.
I hung out with Orvo in real life
and he is a real Keg W
so
I just wanted to say that
just wanted to say that
anyway guys
but now I feel like there's going to be
people who force it next time
that's all right
we start from somewhere
all right anyway
I'll move on to another
topic. The inter-haz...
So I was thinking about some shit, right?
And we keep getting called
Nasbol's. And then I realized something.
It's like, why does it when I say we're internazboz?
I'm like, you know what?
That kind of goes hard.
Like, internationalist Bolsheviks.
I don't know.
It's just like it goes hard.
But then people are going to bitch and cry about the Naz Park.
It sounds like Nazi as if they own that.
Why should they own that?
I mean, it's international and national share the same root word.
Internosble goes hard as fuck.
We are internationalists, but at the same time, we are on some real-ass shit.
I don't know.
Internosble goes fucking hard.
But, and then I thought, it's kind of, forget the Nas, we make it Haas.
Intern Haas Bowl.
International Hezbollah Bolsheviks.
I'm just kind of like, that shit kind of goes hard. I don't know. I don't know. Inter-Hazbole gang.
It's like I wouldn't mind if people pointed at us and said, oh, those are the inter-Naz-Boles. Those are the inter-Haz-Bels.
Okay, fuck it. You need a signifier to distinguish us. I agree. I agree we're not like Finbull. I agree. We are not KK.K.E. Gay-Rie LARPR MLs. We are Orthodox MLs, but I agree there's something about infrared and our whole vibe that's just kind of
different like we bring a whole different vibe to the function and i understand that and your way of
dealing with that is calling us nosbels which is not accurate because we're not nationalists but if you
were to just start calling us internazbolls or interhospels,
it's, I'm like, um, there's something about that.
It would be less triggering to me because I'm just kind of like,
it's kind of like interhazbo gang type of shit, internazbole gang type of shit inter-N-Azbole Gah-Hasbola type of shit
I don't know
it's like something about it is just gangsta
I don't know I fuck with it I kind of
I don't know it's just kind of gangsta
now HOSB is kind of like
it's just like y'all are my followers
and and Now, Hasbo is kind of like, it's just like y'all are my followers.
And it's like, all right.
But, uh, I don't, that's why I cut.
There's aspects of interhazbole that are not.
And it's so funny because interhazbobole sounds like you're fascist or something oh you're fascist all it's international is Bolshevik meaning Lenin was
an inter-Hosble or internazbole okay all the Stalin they were all internazboles when you think about it Stalin was all internazboes.
When you think about it, Stalin was an internazbole, absolutely.
So why is that, it's just like, the word nozbole has just kind of come to mean something different than what either the European third positionist or Le Monsov intended it to mean.
And it's kind of like, oh, you are the leftists that say slurs and tell bad jokes.
And I'm like, okay.
I mean, like, I don't really have a problem being categorized as that.
But Nossbole is just not accurate.
So you could just cause inter-Nosbles or inter-Hazbles.
Like, I don't give a fuck.
Yeah, we're in, like like we're about that like gang
gang type of shit we're about that bolshevik type of shit we're about that um i don't know it's
something kind of punk about it internazbo just kind of punk just like a i don't know what it is interhazbo whatever
we are internationalist internationalist hasbola bolsheviks it's kind of like yeah
wagner hesbola synthesis it's just like i do kind of fuck with that i do like, I do kind of fuck with that.
I do kind of fuck with that Mr. Worldwide shit.
And by the way, can we make... So I want to make an AI song, and it's like International Love, AI.
Yo, appreciate you.
Elite, thank you so much, bro.
Thank you.
We should make a remix of that,
but make it like a Nashid.
We make Pitbulls, Mr. Worldwide, international love, make it a heart style, make it an a nashid we make pit bulls
mr. worldwide international love
make it a hard style make it an asheed
and that will be our anthem
that will be the new international
if someone can do that with AI
I put the challenge upon you
to do that with AI
make it Mr. World I put the challenge upon you to do that with AI.
Make it Mr. Worldwide, international love.
Change the lyrics to something halal,
because it's some pretty haram lyrics in there.
You know, but make it into it into a Nashid.
You can keep, we put it down.
We put it, okay, maybe, maybe not.
You say Nashid, and then we put it down like New York City.
And then the FBI is like, what do you mean you put it down like New York City?
And this shit's an Ashid.
What do you mean by that?
What do you mean by you put it down like New York?
What did you do in New York?
What do you mean?
In New York, what did you put down?
Right?
That would attract some pretty negative attention, to be honest.
Because it basically, who knows what we're referring to?
You know, the Twin Towers?
I mean, I don't know.
You got to be careful about that anyway we don't want to we don't want to be anti-semitic and steal israel's credit
we don't want to be anti-semitic and uh you know um suppress and downplay
Zionist Jewish contributions
and inventions and achievements
that would be quite anti-Semitic
so we have to be careful about that so we have to be careful about that Can anyone make it? I remember I asked someone to make a remix.
Shout out to them, they're great, but I was like,
yo, could you make the Red Army is the strongest
with this AI thing?
And they're like, yeah, and then I listen to it, and it's like,
Mr. Crabs Army, mystic. And I'm like, bro, why is he, Mr. Crabs Army, mystic.
And I'm like, bro, why is he saying Mr. Crabs Army?
Like, what is this even Russian?
What is this?
And like, why?
It's just like, make it good.
Make it go hard.
Through Suno.
Yeah, make it go hard. It don't have to be like that right uh so yeah so that's kind of what I'm thinking.
Those are my thoughts.
I don't know.
Inter-Hosble, internazbo, kind of internazbo.
It's just like, I'm not a nationalist.
Nationalism, it's just kind of gay.
It's just kind of like,
it's just kind of like
coping.
Like, I'm a nationalist.
I'm going to be in my little box.
It's like, I'm about that
Mr. Worldwide shit. I'm about that, worldwide shit i'm about that um global shit i'm a globalist i'm a bolshevik
globalist i am a uh globalist uh wagner globalist i'm a wagner globalist i'm a wagner globalist. I'm a Wagner globalist.
Fuck, that goes hard as fuck. I'm a Wagner globalist, you know?
Nationalism is just kind of like some coping. You know what nationalism is? Nationalism is like the
kid raised by their grandparents
that
is like, I wish we could just go back to the
50s, like that type of shit. It's just
really
like autistic.
Can I say that, Drake?
Nationalism is extremely autistic because you're basically, like, it's like a sonitude medallion.
You're, like, focusing on this part without having this universal thing. You're just focusing on a part and being hyper fixated on it.
And then because it's not dynamic or transcendent enough, you start bringing in anime girls to give it the dynamism and whatever that it doesn't have, right? And that's basically
like the story of all the Nasbo LARP on the internet. And it's like, we got to be about that
dynamic globalityity and we are
internationalists
we are on some
globality type of shit
and interhospal
interhospal gang
interhazble gang
interhazble
I don't know
like I don't know why internazbo
it's kind of like you know what
guilty is charged it's like
we are so we are international especially infrared
they're like they're internazbolls
it's kind of like it has the same punk
rock that Lamonov types
had the kid what's up but it's not the same punk rock that LeMonov types had?
The kid, what's up?
But it's not, it's internationalist, right?
Because what are they going to say?
Even if they clip me and they say, oh, you know, what are you going to say?
Okay, internosble.
What is, literally, they're going to be like, oh, yeah, they're fascists, they okay internazbo what is literally they're going to be like oh yeah they're fascists they're internazboz it's like okay they're internationalist bolsheviks so what about that is
nazi that's it then they're going to be like oh you know what they're internationalist fascists
that honestly the line of attack of our enemies is unironically that going to be like, oh, you know what? They're internationalist fascists.
Honestly, the line of attack of our enemies is unironically that we are internationalist fascists, which makes no fucking sense. Their unironic line of attack is that we are internationalist
fascists.
That's actually their line of attack.
Internationalist fascists.
I'm kind of like, okay, you're calling us internationalist fascists.
That's your line of attack.
And I'm like, well, okay, well, what about it is, how could it be fascist then? Where's the, oh, the transphobia?
All right.
Whatever that means.
I mean, like...
All right.
Or telling jokes about it.
I don't know.
Jokes, bad jokes.
Um... telling jokes about it. I don't know. Jokes, bad jokes. The Russian Oswalds were pretty punk rock. They were pretty edgy. They were pretty young.
That's another thing. They were very young. Youth led. That's kind of what gave them the edge that they had. What can I say?
By the way, Donald Parkinson, let's talk about Donald Parkinson. Everyone loves talking
about Donald Parkinson, right? Okay, Donald Parkinson,
Um,
The spineless holy larp holy larp okay so donald um donald got you know big boy Donald, he got 7.4,000 likes.
I wonder who's liking Donald's tweet.
Totally, I mean, is Donald shameless?
Is he, he's literally a lightning rod for the Mossad and for Zionists
and for fascists and for Nazis
to counter signal us. He just
offers himself as a lightning rod
as a prostitute for Israel,
for Mossad, for feds,
for fascists to counter
signal the Communist Party
and
he can't if only
has there any has there ever been anything
mug has done that's gotten
7.4,000 likes on
social media.
Is there anything Mug has done that has gotten this level of exposure?
Why is it that Donald Parkinson can only get exposure at this level by ankle biting the Communist Party?
And the support he's being given is from Zionists and from fascists, from the right.
And then look, okay, do you want to make fun of us, Donald? from the right.
And then look.
Okay, do you want to make fun of us, Donald?
Why are you making fun of us when this is you?
By the way, I'm going to just nuke Donald right now.
Donald, you can't call us LARPERS.
You want me to prove it and nuke him right now?
I can just bomb him.
Once you want me to bomb Donald and Parkinson, just fucking bomb him. You want me to, once you want me to bomb Donald Parkinson,
just fucking bomb him.
Okay.
Donald,
you can't
call us
LARPers
because there's
nothing we have
to LARP.
We are actually the ones creating our entire fucking vision.
The actions, what actions can we emulate?
Whose drip can we steal?
It's all ours.
Are we operating from
the inheritance of the past? Yes.
But how are we... How could we, we
be LARPs? We the unprecedented.
Be LARPers. What are
we larping? We're in fucking uncharted territory.
We're the ones on this bitch creating
this shit nobody's fucking done what we've done nobody looks like what we look like
nobody's got the style we're larping ourselves exactly who are we lar? What role are we playing?
How could it be a game?
If the role don't even fucking exist,
bitch boy.
Meanwhile, Donald,
I've read the same fucking books that you have.
Mack McNair and Lars Lee and all that. you're larking a turn of the century social Democrat.
You know, before the pre-war, second international, you have in your head created the delusion that we are living in the turn of the century right now, that the DSA is the equivalent of social democracy at the turn of the century
and that you're going to be the next Bolsheviks.
Just keep voting for more Democrats and you'll be there, right?
You are actually larping.
You're like there's a playbook that you're following you are
larping you are larping now and maybe he me by larp he means you guys are putting on theatrics
yet this is theatrical okay is there a single state or serious non-state actor whose
propaganda is non-theatrical have you seen hasbalah hype videos have you seen Hasbullah hype videos
have you seen Iranian propaganda
have you seen Chinese
propaganda you think it's not
staged
you think their propaganda isn't
theatrical and staged
are you a fucking retard?
Like, yeah, of course, yes, we are...
We are making a video.
We are absolutely doing...
Yes, we're taking into consideration.
The camera shot, how it looks, the angle...
Of course we are with this video.
It's propaganda, yes, that we made and produced.
That's what propaganda looks like and is.
You're calling that LARP.
It's not LARP, it's just propaganda.
LARP is being like you who actually genuinely is playing the role of a turn-of-the-century
Social Democrat and getting a sense of certainty and guarantee that everything is going to turn out
fine because you're playing this pre-established
role.
There's no pre-established role any of us can play.
Think about that.
What pre-established role can the ACP play?
Genuinely, what pre-established role exists for us to emulate that we're emulating.
Give us the pre-established role we're
emulating. We created this shit.
We are unprecedented.
We're not following a fucking playbook.
We're writing the fucking playbook.
You understand?
Nobody's fucking, nobody's doing what we've done. Nobody's ever done what we've
fucking done. Hell, the reason you retards call us feds is you've never seen what it looks like
for somebody to write their own fucking playbook. We're not following a playbook written by someone
else, so you think it must have been written by the government.
Meanwhile, you don't fucking know.
We're the ones who fucking wrote it.
That's what it means to embrace history.
That's what it means to open yourself to historical outcomes outside your control.
For the purposes of what?
Advancing the experience and knowledge and skill of a future generation of revolutionaries
who cannot larp, who cannot pretend their turn of the century
social democrats like Donald does.
I see what these mug people look like, man.
They literally wear early 1900s berets, because they actually think their turn of the century social Democrats in our age.
We don't have that.
We really don't even have that.
Genuinely. And yeah, I'm not talking about this century.
I'm talking about from the 1800s to the 1900s. That's that turn of the century. That's what he's larping. Don't talk that shit on us.
Why are you talking shit on us?
Who are you?
What are you?
Nothing.
You're a nothing.
You'll never be anything.
You're worthless. Thanks, You know, The Young Soviet, what's up?
Strah Stanley, what's up, bro, with the 10?
Appreciate you, bro.
What's going on? Can you tell me what a kick is?
What is this thing where you can earn kicks?
What is a kick?
How much money is a single kick worth?
I don't fucking know.
Don't fucking ask me shit.
Like I'm supposed to fucking know. 50 shekels sounds about right we're about to transition into our uh
every time i stream i'm so fucking intense and violent and fucking scary um straight up i'm like
straight up i'm on some
fucking uh scare the scare the hose type shit
honestly
i just love scaring the hose on stream
um I just love scaring the hose on stream.
I'm such a scary fucking person, right?
Anyway, let's get on TikTok.
Are we ready for the debates?
Ones if you're ready for the debates okay but if you actually meet me in real life I'm not like this with my comrades
I'm only like this when I can rage at the void
they got two why are there two phones why you when I can rage at the void.
They got two... Why are there two phones?
Why are you asking too many questions, you fed, bitch?
Guerrilla, what's up, bro?
Uh, yeah, I'm a crazy cult leader.
Orvo, what's up, bro? Good question.
Gorilla, what's up? So Orvo, we actually...
Orvo, why were the fuck were you not at the function, by the way?
You know, is this kind of like...
It's just kind of like, we go there, Orvo's not there.
I'm just like...
Actually, who from Texas was there?
Almost no one.
Literally nobody from... Does anyone from Texas even there, almost no one. Literally nobody from
Does anyone from Texas even show up?
I'm just saying
Orvo, if you like in person,
we would tell you in person. We have
plans, though. 100% we have plans.
I just tell you, we're gonna, we have other forms of communication that don't depend on the internet.
He!
Anyway, let's, you never heard about it.
Yeah, that's fucking crazy.
Who's gonna be in New York, though?
Y'all know what's going on in New York soon?
Y'all hear about it
New York's pretty fucking far from y'all
who's gonna be
in New York you know and I'm not
gonna spoil what it is but it's
something going on in New York soon
I don't know y'all from Texas I suppose is, but it's something going on in New York soon.
I don't know. Y'all from Texas should pull up. I don't know. It's fucking expensive, though. I don't know.
What's going on in New York? Ask your chapter. Ask your CC rep. What's going on in New York?
Straight up. Ask your CC rep don't know all right that's going to be the next
event that we're going to do anyway guys uh let me uh let me uh Let me,
uh,
let me start the TikTok debates.
Fuck,
remember last time?
Ha,
guys,
I ended the stream.
I was straight for five hours.
I was debating autis,
Logic Lord Autis.
Uh, yeah, Laura, just let me know.
Y'all rarely message me, all right?
Let me know.
Let me know.
The next time you all come up,
just keep asking me.
I spent five hours debating with the Autis.
Um... spent five hours debating with the autists. Um,
Dallas. I didn't know,
y'all, Dallas?
Fuck, Dallas.
I don't go to Dallas. But anyway,
um, yeah, anyway, and then my flight was at 8 a.m.
So I ended the stream at when, 3, and then I packed, and then I just didn't sleep.
And then at 5, I went to the airport because I knew the TSA closing.
So I didn't sleep at all. And then at five, I went to the airport because I knew the TSA closing. So I didn't sleep at all.
And then they, you know, the Friday before the event, everyone showed up, had showed up.
I was literally the life of the party.
Hold on. I'm actually the life of the party. Hold on.
I'm actually the life of the party.
When you think about it,
I was the life of the party.
And then maybe if I'm good,
you can say I'm the life of the party,
the ACP.
But the house, I don't know if I call it a house party, but the get together
were like we had, what, 20, 30 people, 40 people. I had no sleep and I look at how much energy
I had. I just want everyone to admire that.
Remember that stream I did
five hours with those logic lords? I never
rested. I went straight to St. Louis
and then
I
was absolutely...
Whoever says I'm antisocial.
Remember when Danny Shaw said that?
He's like, this dark, twisted, antisocial.
Bro, it's just because I didn't fuck with you.
You know what I mean?
It's like, yeah, I don't fuck with everybody.
Sorry. I don't fuck with everybody sorry
I don't fuck with you fed as bitches
it's like that song whole gang with payroll Giovanni in it
bitches want a taste of the prize but can't look straight in the eyes.
I'm trying to think that you a snake in disguise.
I'm starting to think that you a snake in disguise.
You know, that's the type of shit I'm on sometimes.
Anyway, y'all, we're going to be starting the debates
fuck um i will never say... You know, Thank you. but ones if we're good twos if we're good twos if we're good twos if we're good twos if we're good twos if we're good two's if we're good two's if we're good, Tuesday if we're good. Tuesday if we're good.
Tuesday if we're good.
Two's if we're good.
All right.
Some actual unironic fascist.
A real fascist.
Name Tyler. are you doing?
I'm doing fine, but what is this LARP?
This LARP?
How old are you?
I'm 22 years old.
All right.
And why are you...
You are a self-described fascist?
Yeah, I am.
Why do you
adopt a failed
ideology?
How is it failed
necessarily?
Because the whole thing
was like
we're the toughest,
meanest,
baddest guys ever
and then they fought
one more and lost.
That's what you think fascism is?
No, I'm just simplifying it.
So,
so you think because we lost a war,
that's a failed ideology?
Well, if the whole point of fascism is like we're going to, you know, achieve this kind of
Nietzschean, Ubermensch, we're going to be these superhumans, we're going to be, you know,
we're going to treat the state as a military and might is right and we're going to assert our dominance and conquer and enslave others who are inferior to us.
So where in the doctrine of fascism does it save us?
In the practice of fascism, Mussolini invaded Ethiopia for no reason.
Then he invaded Libya.
He invaded his Slavic neighbors, wanted to subjugate them.
Albanians.
That's not a core part of the fascist ideology.
The way Mussolini saw politics internally, where he's just like, we're going to just
like beat people we disagree with into submission.
And just because we can get away with it, that makes us justified.
And I'm not saying politics doesn't involve suppressing your enemies, but even communists had moral justifications. Anyway, Mussolini's like,
we're just going to do it because we can. Like the whole we can ideology like Obama, right?
Yes, we can. He was like, yes, we can. like Obama right yes we can
he was like yes we can go invade Ethiopia we can do all these things
and just because we can you know and then that's the whole like
premise in a way and then they fought one real war and then lost
so that is So you think
like fascism is being your
opposition into submission?
I wouldn't reduce it to that
but I think that in practice
it was a way
for the bourgeois state to
do what constitutional
republics cannot with respect to the
suppression of dissidents
okay so do you think like
class collaboration is a bad thing
um for Do you think like class collaboration is a bad thing?
For who?
For the bourgeoisie, it's great.
For the proletariat, it's treachery.
How it's it treachery for the proletariat?
Because class collaboration is
acquiescing and submitting
to the
principle of a class
whose existence contradicts
your own.
So you think the Borsesbossey
contradicts a proletariat?
Yes, fundamentally, I do.
And even Mussolini had to...
Sorry, I got a call there.
Mussolini rhetorically
agreed with that, by the way, which is
why he constantly
postured and made it seem like
fascism was somehow post-Bougeois
and it was more proletarian, and that
Italy had become a proletarian.
I think he left. I didn't disagree. I didn't and that Italy had become a proletarian.
I think he left.
I didn't disagree.
I didn't, I mean, yes, I didn't disconnect him.
Okay, we'll wait for him to come back.
Maybe he won't.
We'll bring a Sphinx.
Go ahead, Sphinx.
Hey, what's going on, brother Howard? What's up?
Hey, man, I just
want to ask a little bit about your guys' work
with your party.
I think I saw that
Jackson is part of your party too. You guys are founders?
Yeah, he's a co-founder.
Okay, so I just wanted to ask
how much progress
have you guys been making
and getting people to like, you know,
getting people to like, you know,
follow the message and follow you guys party and give support.
It's been... You're fighting a big monster, you know, follow the message and I'll follow you guys party and give support. It's been pretty...
You're fighting a big monster.
Pretty steady and pretty explosive
in 2026. We found out
that we had 6 to
7,000 people, I mean
6,7, right?
Literally 6 to seven thousand people
who tried joining
but couldn't because of technical errors
and so gave up.
So we are much less than...
That's actually crazy, right?
But yeah, we're growing pretty steadily.
Okay.
So you guys, I mean, are you guys hoping to get to a point where you can actually run for,
have one of your members run for president or something?
No.
No, what is this? Elementary school No. No, what is this?
Elementary school politics?
Like, what is that?
No, no, I'm not trying to be funny here or anything.
I'm actually, I'm not exactly sure what you guys are doing.
But I'm just, I'm just here to, I'm not here to, like, challenge you anything.
I'm just here to, I'm just asking to see what you guys are.
What's your, what's your what's your like main goal here if i may ask um our goal is to build a
preeminent you know organization of the American proletariat.
And,
uh,
you guys,
like,
I mean,
I'm assuming we're,
we're preparing because we think we don't,
we no longer
have confidence that the current state is going to last within our lifetimes forever
and we think that there needs to be an organizational framework that survives the coming collapse
I'm with that that makes sense to me lapse. How much that?
That makes sense to me.
How much, I mean, how, like, but in terms of actual progress achieving such, you know,
your goals, like, I don't know what's holding you guys back. How, how well are you doing in terms of like your own, like how much you've been hoping to achieve?
It's been pretty steady growth.
But we're focused on building up resources, which we have to do because we don't get support from the bourgeoisie.
Uh-huh.
Are you in the US, if I may ask?
No, I'm in Belgium.
Okay, so you guys, what's called?
I don't know if Jackson
is trying to get into politics
in America but I was just curious
if he because I know if I'm not mistaken
he's an American citizen
with all the stuff
with all the stuff that he
you know tweets about and publicizes
is he will he be arrested if he comes to the U.S. in the current situation?
There's no current warrant for his arrest.
Yeah.
But we suspect he will be harassed and potentially deprived of travel which would interfere with his career okay so you guys more um international are you guys focusing on the u.s as well is it uh we're internazboles okay i will appreciate
you answering my question best luck brother to you and the party uh nicholas says he knows a little secret about the ACP.
Oh, we love gossip over here.
What's the secret?
This is some low testosterone.
Escedic tells about the secret.
Oh, my God, there's secrets.
They're the master of Unix.
NYC Catholic.
Go ahead, bro.
What's the secret?
All right.
So,
I believe that, okay, so i want to ask you one question right all right
why do you follow why do you follow the teachings of dougan i don't i don't i've i've been hearing a lot of, like, things about you guys following teachings.
Are you, are you ML?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
What are the things you heard about Stalin when you first heard his name?
Oh, yeah. I heard him as a dictator right so so there's a you know
if you're actually a real communist they're just gonna the things that you hear about the real
communists they're not going to reflect reality the system we live in so you know it's no excuse to not do your due diligence
um okay what about your homophobic comments what about that uh which ones i made so many i need to
remember which ones? I made so many. I need to remember.
Which ones?
You made, you made so many.
What?
Remember what you said about like the, um, woman?
Like, woman should be in like the, whatever.
But what is, wait, what is, well, hold on.
Before we talk about that, what about the homophobia?
Queer liberation is with class liberation.
What does that mean, though?
Because they're my...
No, no, no. I mean, what does it mean?
Like, what does queer liberation mean?
Because I'm thinking there's a bunch of queer people
locked in a cage right now
and then we're just going to open the cage and they're
we liberated you and they're going to like spread
their wings and fly like what does that mean you're
liberating them
I'm saying what it means
meaning someone
could finally marry, not be perceding.
China doesn't believe in that. China doesn't believe in gay marriage, but we already have gay marriage in America.
And China is, in China is state capitalists.
Okay, I got you, but America already has gay marriage. So what are you
liberating? That's not already been liberated. Queer people still face oppression in everyday life.
They still, just like African Americans, they still, they still face oppressed. So do fat people. So do fat people.
So do fat people.
So you're saying that
we're saying that we shouldn't
liberate queer people.
Should we liberate fat people?
That's entirely
Let me ask you a question. Are ugly people oppressed as well? And he's that's entirely different
Are ugly people oppressed as well
And these microaggressions?
Because we're talking
We go from something political
Usually liberation in Marxism
It means something concretely political
Or even economic
But you're talking about like vague cultural sensibilities, right?
So according to cultural sensibilities, clavacular talks about the halo effect, right?
Where ugly people get treated worse than pretty people with pretty privilege.
So should we liberate ugly people as well?
Clavigaller is a racist. Why are you bringing him into the conversation? Yeah, he's a racist, but still,
you know, I would agree that ugly people are treated worse than would you disagree with that?
If you're like let's say
you're ugly
as shit
and you walk
into a
KFC
and you know
and the workers
sitting there
at the thing
I mean like
you know
you might
they might spit in your food
they might say
this person's so
nasty and gross I mean but then if you're you might they might spit in your food they might say this person so nasty and gross i mean
but then if you're so good looking and you walk in they're hey handsome like you don't know what's
going on right so isn't that oppression in the same way?
Why not?
That's not a person. Okay, what if you're...
What if you didn't commit a crime?
Like, the cops run up to the scene of a crime.
And there's two people.
There's someone with the halo effect who's great looking. There's like a guy who looks like an ugly dog's ass, and he's like, just looks like an ugly piece of shit.
And the police just tackle him and beat the shit out of them.
Which is like, I mean, let's
be honest, like, that stuff happens.
Should,
should ugly people be liberated?
So, you're making
this argument to say that queer
liberation is not,
is, it shouldn't be important.
Well, the only example of liberation you're telling me is that liberation from distinct
treatment within culture, not within the law, not even within economics, because it's been made
illegal to discriminate on that
basis already.
So what is left to liberate except
the fact that some people might
I don't even know how
widespread this is, by the way.
I mean, there's so many gay billionaires who are like wealthy as hell, who are extremely wealthy actually.
I would say maybe on average they're more wealthy probably.
I don't know if I could say that was certainty.
But I just don't understand
where is the oppression now that you're talking about?
And how could it not also be applied to ugly people?
The oppression, the oppression that queer Why to ugly people?
The oppression, the oppression that queer and queer people face is like... Okay, queer people face unseen oppression.
Yeah.
Is there any way we could refer to it or talk about it in a way that we can hear about it, maybe?
Okay.
First, they are seen in look, even by the government, that's why there's queer conversion camps and everything like that.
They are literally, they're literally put down by the government
as something that isn't
that isn't brutal or
something that needs to be
fixed.
The government that had the pride flag
on the White House?
The government that's
in office right now.
Oh, the current administration, which is
moderately less
pro-LGB
than the Democrats were. Okay,
who put the pride flag on the
drones and on bombs and in military bases and stuff.
This was the norm for the regime for a decade.
But by the way, I want to ask you something.
What camps are you talking about?
Um, queer, um um queer conversion camps yeah where what camps the one the ones that like trump um the one that trump funds. Where?
Gracks me from the location of where they're funded.
Yeah, I've never heard of that.
How have you seen?
I've never heard of queer camps
for to imprison queer people in camps.
Oh my goodness.
It's not queer camps and imprisoning queer people.
Or the convert to convert them.
I've never heard of that.
You're strong in my argument here. No, I'm okay to convert them. I've never heard of that. You're strongmen in my argument here.
No, no, I'm okay to convert them. I never heard of that.
There's literally camps that
are made, they're funded by the
government to convert queer people.
That is a, you could Google
out, you could research that, that is a real could Google that you could research that
that is a real thing
are you talking about children or adults
I believe both children
and adults so the government
is taking adults and putting
them in conversion camps
or I believe it is children.
So it's exclusively children.
Yes.
Yeah, I mean, but that's it then, right?
That's the only thing you would say is if we just put an end to that, that's queer liberation, right?
That children no longer can be sent to conversion therapy camps.
But, okay. I want to get back. conversion therapy camps but okay
I want to get back on the
Dugan topic
so we're not really committing
to the whole queer liberation thing
got it
all right
I've heard
I've literally heard that you you subscribe to Dugan's ideas a you're Asian traditionalist fascist.
I don't subscribe to Dugan's ideas and also those are not his ideas you don't subscribe
to these ideas mean okay like all right like like oh my goodness.
You all subscribe to those ideas, but you are in.
What do you mean?
Like, what do you mean that's not his ideas?
Dugan is not a fascist.
Dugan is literally a fascist.
He's a conservative fascist. He's not a fascist. He's a conservative fascist.
He's not a fascist.
He's not a fascist.
In any Marxist, materialist sense of the word, the way that the common term defied fascism, he couldn't qualify as a fascist. He himself
does not regard himself as a fascist. The reason why this libel has become prolific in the West is because during the 1990s,
Dugan was associated with the Nas Bols, the National Bolsheviks, and the context behind them was that the Yeltsin government created this kind of boogeyman of a red-brown alliance.
And, you know, the twin totalitarian is a model.
So as a way to protest, the American imperialist, you know, financial occupation of Russia, young people from punk rock milieuz started adopting the label Nossbol to kind of provoke and troll liberals, basically.
And part of this was Dugin in the 1990s who wrote an article called Fascism, Borderless and Red.
Where in the article, he says, you know, Nazi Germany and fascist Italy were controlled by capitalists. These were national capitalist states that didn't live to the ideal of a true fascism and a true fascism has to be borderless
and it has to be a communist and it has to whatever so it was just this kind of nonsensical
artistic nonsense he was doing but uh as dougin grew older, he distanced himself from the Nossbol's and distance himself altogether from
third positionism as like the receptacle of his very uniquely
contextually defined
post-Soviet Russian worldview
and you know
started calling himself a Eurasianist
and then a fourth positionist
but never
was he truly in any sincere
or real sense of fascist.
Now, how I would qualify
if someone's a fascist is do they
um, grift off of
xenophobic, um, you know, sentiment, which he never did, that even the Nazbels and Dugin were always very protective and defensive over Russia's religious and ethnic minorities?
And that there was a big anti-immigrant phenomena and tendency in Russia, mind you.
And then, okay, well, did he advocate for some kind of, you know, support for the, you know, the imperialist machine.
Well, the imperialist machine in Russia was the foreign occupation by oligarchs, financial
oligarchs.
That was the objective reality of imperialism in Russia.
And Dugin and the Nossbollls were fighting the oligarchs so they were genuinely a revolutionary force in russia like like their ideology or don't
but they you can't say they were fascists they weren't hired thugs of the regime that was meant to
destroy the communist movement that's the purpose i want to be clear about something i can tell you're
young but i'm going to tell this to you anyway there's no such thing as fascism without a communist movement to suppress.
The only reason you had fascism in Italy or in Germany was because they had very large and powerful socialists and communist movements.
And fascism was the ideology created to fight that and suppress that so don't go
around calling people fascists just because they have beards and their meanies and they're tough
and they're strong and they're you know they're scary. That's not what fascism is.
It says
Dugan's ideas are literally they want to put the world
back into and the neoliberal orders and put the world back
into traditionalism.
That is...
Traditionalism is not the same as fascism.
He has expansionist worldview, which is a very fascist idea.
It's a very fascist idea it's a very fascist idea i would say it's not inherently fascist in the
context of russia because the soviet union was illegally dissolved in the first place. And moreover,
every case of expansionism
has always
come from the defense of minorities,
whether there are Russians, or non-Russians
for that matter, who were left
defenseless and at the mercy of
petty nationalists in the post-Soviet context.
So in Georgia, it was the Osatians.
Not Russians, they're an Iranian people, but they were being harassed by the petty nationalism of Georgia.
And Russia came to their defense.
Russia is a multinational framework, civilization, which doesn't tolerate small-minded petty nationalism.
This post-Soviet republics were infected with this balkanizing
petty
nationalist
disease
that culminates
in the
Ukraine
Maidan.
I've been
to Russia.
Russia is a
multi-ethnic
nation.
It's not
a nation
just for ethnic Russians. Okay? It's not a nation just for
ethnic Russians.
It's a civilizational framework that recognizes
and acknowledges the harmonious
coexistence of different peoples.
If Dugan advocates
an expansionism of Russia with
respect to the post-Soviet space
which I don't think he does unilaterally
I think this is fully justified
I mean the context is that the Soviet Union's
illegally dissolved the state collapses
and is given entirely to oligarchs, and then NATO expands.
Why did NATO expand? For what? So Russia is brought to a point that Russian people are occupied,
and their state had been destroyed.
In this context,
Dugan style expansionism isn't the same
as Germany or Italy deciding that they want to enslave and subjugate
other nations and peoples because they're inferior. In this context,
it is the restoration of a civilization that had been unjustifiably dismantled and destroyed and
preyed upon by financial powers.
All right. Well, I mean prayed upon by financial powers all right well
let me address your comments that
i've um had um
so this is in quote by the way
i'm not saying this because i support this
um this is your comment
shove the effin psychological to your fucking yuppity faggot
ass right now you're a faggot and i don't want to hear from a thing from you that is what you
said that that is is what you said.
That is directly what you said.
Okay. Is there no context that would, that you would find this acceptable?
No. That's like saying the N word. Like, there's no context for that to be i i just disagree it's like it's like
i refer back to the south park episode it's like oh so i disagree being homophobic is no i just
use the bad word it's not doesn't mean anything i i was just homophobic for a little bit, guys. I'm not that bad.
Okay, well, I just used a bad word. It doesn't really mean anything. But anyway, the reason I said that,
do you think that I was like engaging in a hate crime? Like, that's, that was a gay guy I was saying
that. Oh, God, I got violated for hate speech. Thanks, that's, that was a gay guy I was saying that.
Oh,
God,
I got violated for hate speech.
Thanks for that,
by the way.
Pretend me.
Violation,
repeated violations could resolve me.
I'm going to have to remove you in a second,
but,
um,
I'm just going to have to remove you, dude.
It's telling me to remove you.
If they remain, they'll be... I got to remove them.
All right, it gave me the restriction.
And proof of that is on the yellow website,
or the green website.
Anyway, to respond to what you're saying before I bring up the next person, that was to a member of the ACP Politburo who for weeks was acting strangely and erratically,
um,
hostile and constantly like maneuvering for mysterious reasons.
I came back from Russia and then we held a whole meeting Friday for like five, six hours where they criticized. They were given all the time in the world to voice their concerns, their criticisms of me. They had a big problem with me. Very vague vague but we gave him the opportunity to say whatever
they wanted and then they on their own accord said okay i think your response satisfies me so a
week later we had a meeting he said everything's good we had a meeting where we wanted to just get to
continue our leadership business. Then he ambushed us with a resignation, where he wanted to do this
theatrical thing where he's going to read like a two-hour essay
he wrote and ambush us with his
resignation and try to make us all feel so
bad that he's leaving. And I basically said
okay, this is not the time and place for this.
You want to quit? Just go quit.
Then he kept pushing and pushing and insulting me
and attacking me. I had dealt with him for weeks
dealing with very vague, nonsensical.
I just, oh,
Haas, you're, uh, there's
a big problem with Haas.
No, he could never say what his problem was.
Okay, so I took it personally.
I thought maybe this guy just doesn't like me, so I got pissed.
But then later we found out he really, you something had happened to him knock on the door
where he was compelled or convinced that he has to wreck the party and uh so he was acting under
duress, basically.
So literally a guy basically, we think, got a knock on the door by the feds to wreck our party was intentionally trying to waste our time and cause problems for us and i got pissed
and crashed out and uh socialism for all uh clipped it out of context because he's a really good faith actor
who you should definitely trust, right?
Right.
But I did use a bad word.
Because you know why he called in that?
Because he's like, you will sit down and listen, boy.
And I was like, what?
So anyway, Flak, go ahead.
Hey, how's it going?
I'm 25.
I'm just curious, kind of a little bit about the ACP, because I've
heard a bit about you guys, but I've heard some
mixed things. I'm a communist myself.
And I always like to have some
friendly, hearted, you know, left discussion.
They might be able to get into some stuff.
I want to pull up y'all's program
real quick, because I had some
questions.
Jacob, I accepted you,
but then you disconnected.
So you have to go next.
I don't know what to tell you.
Go ahead.
Yeah, like I was saying,
I got some questions about your program
and just, you know, if I was, if you could tell me a bit about your party and why you think someone should be involved with it.
Let's drop a 10, y'all.
Um, I would say if you're a communist with a capital C unapologetically, meaning you're not doing
these cope detours. If you're like actually a communist with a capital C, you're not like saying,
oh, I'm a communist, but Stalin was bad. You're like actually a communist. I would say there's just no other alternative to us for better or for worse. And that, you know, if you think we're doing something wrong, you could do it better, you could make your case to us. We're pretty open. We're pretty flexible. We don't
really have like gatekeepers who are preventing work from being done like other parties do.
We just, we're not ruled by boomers or Gen X people or millennials even.
We're ruled.
Youth led.
And it's a pretty open door, pretty blank canvas in a lot of ways for how do we move forward as a con.
We're learning from experience most of all.
Yeah. But I just don't think there's an alternative to us i mean if it's not us who else you know that that's fair i mean
we're we're in a very interesting error on the left in this country i mean the left hardly
exists to be honest like Like, you probably agree
that the DSA is hard to even call
left at all. It's just supporting the
Democrats. Same things to see the USAs.
So, we're seeing all this pressure for people
to join a communist movement,
and people are looking for something serious out there,
and you seem pretty serious about this.
But I'm curious what you said, like capital C, communist meaning that like you, you said something about Stalin there.
And then also I got a question about point 17 on your program, promotion of American civilization.
I'm not really sure
exactly what you guys mean by that.
Yeah, we just think that
we don't really have a
clearly defined American nation,
you know?
And hold on one said.
Carlos, what's up?
Appreciate you, bro.
Yeah, we don't really have a clearly defined
national existence
as Americans.
And we want to kind of discover
a unique civilization on this land by this people
all the people here right and we're very open to what that potentially could or
has to look like and we
just think we should stop emulating Europe
and looking to Europe for
guidance on how we should be
and we should kind of
embrace
our geography, right?
Okay, interesting. I'm still not really
exactly sure what you mean by that, but if I had to guess, like, what it mean, like,
you could have, like, a, uh, multi-country, multi,
like, racial, ethnic background kind of American culture. Well, multi-country, multi-
racial ethnic background
kind of American culture.
Because when I think of America,
I think of...
We want one American
civilization
that is a fusion
of all those things.
I would say like this,
like China promotes Chinese civilization,
Confucius and the classics.
We want to do that.
We just don't have it.
So we need to also simultaneously build it.
Okay. Well, I see you're coming from with that. Yeah, there's definitely different ideas.
And I think part of society and being able to move forward in a positive way is having a unified national myth or international myth like kind of a i wouldn't say it's a
myth i wouldn't say it's a myth maybe maybe not a myth actually yeah you're right about that like a
collective understanding of who we are and what we're fighting for yeah and right now in the U.S., like you said, it is, like, it is a myth really in this country now,
and it's all over the place.
It's not consistent.
And I think that gives a level of disorientation to people today.
Yeah.
So what would you what was your position on the soviet union would you say you're more of a hardline supporter of them or like critical support i would say critical support is definitely
how what i think of them but i'm curious what ASEC because that's really important.
Critical of everything but to an extent uncritical, you know, like unconditional.
Like, okay, if I would, if Brezhnev was around and things popped off between Brezhnev and the imperialist block.
I understand he's a revisionist.
I understand what de-Stalinization was totally unjustified.
But if that, you know, if that conflict happened, am I going to be going to be critical i mean no i'm going to
send me tie me to a missile and send me to nato well yeah i mean i feel it the same way so like
for example i really like following a lot of trotsky's lines on this i think he's got a
pretty good analysis on the Soviet Union.
But if I was there when the Great Patriotic War started, like you bet that I'd be out there on the front lines just as much as anyone else, right? At the end of the day, a worker state... I can't agree with the Trotsky I think. I'm sorry. It's just...
It's like mentioning the Shaiton and expecting me not to react.
Just casually dropping Shatan right there.
You can't... You can't just be casually dropping Shaton and expect me to be chill with it.
I'm sorry, you know?
It's like Trotsky.
I mean, like, you're just randomly dropping Shaiton in here.
And, uh, can't have that.
It's like casually referencing the mustache painter man.
Anyway, where's the other guy who wanted to...
Where's that guy who requested?
Who said that he...
ACP is unsirious
but what does it mean to be serious
you know think about that
I feel like the only thing that means
serious just means action it doesn't mean like
I'm going to act a certain way on TikTok.
Yeah.
No, it's just stupid.
Like, oh, you're serious because of how you act on TikTok.
I just kind of feel like that's nonsense.
You know, the only thing that determines your seriousness is your commitment.
It's not how you act on social media that determines your seriousness is your commitment.
It's not how you act on social media that determines your seriousness.
It's what are your commitments?
What do you actually do?
Can't tolerate discussion because you can't compete with Trotsky's ideas.
I don't need to compete with ideas that have no basis or foundation.
I mean, there's nothing to correct for. It's a,
it's a dead end. We know what Trotsky looks like in real life. We know what Trotskyism looks like.
It's a dead end. I see no opening. I see nothing to debate about. Why be a Trotsky?
Do a burden is on? Okay, you can request again, but I'm putting the burden on you.
Why should I be a Trotskyist?
Why should I accept Trotsky's ideas?
You know?
I have to put the burden on you
all right
you
you know
big respect for letting me back up here
well I think the main thing
is uh socialism one country versus permanent revolution me back up here. Well, I think the main thing is socialism
one country versus permanent revolution.
But you know how it's a logical
fallacy or contradiction?
Everything's contradictory. What do you mean?
Yeah, but I mean it in the sense it's like a self negate self-negating
uh self-undermining notion of per rolution okay and it's in the etymology okay well let's start here what's a revolution the transformation
of society yeah but what's a revolution wouldn't you say that is what it is
i could i could work with that but I think it's so much more simple what is what is etymologically like what's the actual definition of a revolution
oh like uh well I mean it goes back to dialectics, right?
It's one of these brief periods of significant upheaval
as something, a transformation from one thing to something else.
Mutually exclusive before and after, something like that.
It's way more...
I'm not sure exactly where you can.
There's like a root-reut meaningfulfulness of that word that is so much simpler,
to the point where it doesn't only have to be applied to historical phenomena.
What are you getting at?
Do cars have revolutions?
Yeah.
Right.
Do you know what a revolution is?
A rotation?
Yeah.
Exactly.
Like a cycle.
That's a revolution.
How could that be permanent?
Well, the permanent revolution is a permanent cycling, circling of progress in this spiral that moves forward.
It's like a double helix moving forward, this constant rotation.
Okay.
I could work with that.
But here's the problem.
It can... Okay. I could work with that. But here's the problem. The problem is
you're said progress, the permanent
revolution of progress. Progress always has to acquire a
qualitative determination.
I agree that
the development of nature
and history is unceasing.
Never ends.
But
the specific
transformations do the specific um
transformations
do end. The transformation
of one thing into another thing is
the movement of one determination
to another determination.
The transformation as such cannot
last forever.
Now transformation in the abstract is eternal in this sense.
When we're speaking about the particulars, you're talking about the transformation of one thing into another.
When you're speaking about revolutions, you're talking about a specific revolution, which of course must end and cannot be permanent.
Does that mean the process of change ends forever?
No.
But how can we speak of change?
And this is how Trotsky doesn't understand dialectics. How can we speak of change? And this is how Trotsky doesn't understand dialectics.
How can we talk about change without determinations?
If everything is just flux and everything is just change, we lose the point of reference to the things that are changing in the first place. What is changing,
and what does it change into? So there's a distinction between the qualitative and the
quantitative. There's a distinction between content and the form. Trotsky thought he could achieve the eternity of a content that doesn't have to go through form. That's the problem. Content eventually has to acquire form. In order to further partake in content, by the way.
If you remain suspended in the pretense of content that suppresses form,
once of you can still hear me in the
green
green place
I can still hear you
I believe you
okay you could still
all right
he's suppressing
the formal consequences
of the content of revolution.
But that doesn't mean you will avoid those consequences.
It means that you will be trapped within the formal framework that is pre-revolutionary. And that's why sociologically and demographically,
you will never be able to convince me, short of changing everything I've ever seen and read from
history, Trotskyism and left communism were both sociologically part of the same
historical strata as fascism.
Both of them were reacting to a qualitative revolutionary change that happens sometime after 1929, 1930, that created a new type of political subject and civilizational subject, a mass subject, mass politics, popular.
People associate Nazism and fascism with mass politics, but they were actually a reaction to mass politics.
They were a defense of classical liberal individualism in the face of true organic material mass politics.
They emulated the aesthetics of mass politics
in many respects
but fascism
it's the fascists
it's the kind of
individuals uniting
together and binding together
in a pact
to defend their private property
against the masses
that's basically what it was.
And Trotskyism is part of that reaction, because the mass subject in the USSR was the peasantry.
And Trotsky was defending the sanctity and integrity of the classical,
modern, European individual subject versus this popular subject that was the basis of Stalin's
cult of personality. Could you clarify what you mean by that a little bit more?
I haven't heard a notion like that before.
Yeah.
Russia obviously was-
Maybe like a concrete example.
Sorry to cut you off.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay. A concrete example
was that in the 20s during the debates
following Lenin's death,
Stalin's support
was based primarily in
newer cadre that were joining the party
who were very much coming from
the countryside in many cases, from the Soviets.
I agree on this. They were used to this W.A.R. Communism
where there was little
questioning of the status quo and authority, these newer cadre, and
also this significant base in the peasant class who were more conservative.
And also a lot of support amongst the bureaucracy, which was, like
Lenin said, the Tsarist state
anointed with socialist oil.
Yeah, sure, but ultimately all of these forces Trotsky regarded as having contaminated.
And the fight against bureaucracy,
Stalin did not stop that fight.
And Lenin acquiesced to the reality
that we're faced with this Tsarist imperial machine
that we have not fully replaced.
Lenin also had to acquiesce it.
So the fight against bureaucracy,
I don't think acquires any concrete development in the Trotskyist tradition.
Only in the Marxist-Leninist tradition,
do we finally have something like Mao's Cultural Revolution, where that ability to deal with the impersonal bureaucratic nature of state machines is possible in the first place? It's a different contradiction.
But in any case, I would focus here more on the mass subject of Russian politics and civilization, which was coming from the peasantry.
Trotsky very much believed that the revolution and its sacred principles would be completely destroyed if it embeds itself and defines itself within that context because he didn't regard Russia as advanced enough, right? Because Western Europe has the
proletariat. And Russia does not. And so
we need to
we need to be, you know, we need to, our state has to be ruled by the true
proletariat. The true subject, right? And, but in practice,
this was civilizational racism. In practice, I mean, that's the form it took. The lesser, less developed races the chinese the russians others they they have no
basis with which to lead uh so they have to follow the civilization of Western Europe.
And Lenin said that we should pursue a different path for the construction of civilization,
a non-European path, that's what he said.
I think the last thing he wrote actually, one of the last things. But anyway, I think that Trotsky represented the vanity and the overextension of a very specific type of classical liberal Western subject
faced with the reality of mass politics and reacting against it.
And I would put Mussolini and Hitler in the same camp.
So...
Because the proletarian
politics he was talking about
was mythical.
Never actually existed.
For a brief period, it seemed like
it existed in the October Revolution,
but the city proletariat
were turned out to be only part-time proletarians. They had land in the countryside that they went back to during the Civil War. And meanwhile, in Western Europe, the mythical proletariat was not at all a revolutionary subject. In fact, it was a profoundly conservative and petty bourgeois subject.
In Western Europe?
Yeah.
What? I mean, do you
see the waves of revolutions in Western Europe
after like after 1917?
I mean, 1918 in Germany.
Those revolutions were simply a temporary vacuum that was filled due to the collapse of the Austro-Hungarian and German empires.
So they never represented a positive principle of proletarian politics asserting itself. They were simply the negative consequences of the dissolution of the losing side of World War I, which were the imperial confederations and states that lost.
Some people tried to hijack that and, you know,
in Hungary and in Germany,
but it was a total failure.
Well, yes, they had a lack of
working class leadership, for sure.
A shortage of a quality party
to move them forward. And the reason they
didn't have the party is because they never had a mass
subject. They were focused on trying to
solely and exclusively
base themselves in the
traditional social democratic concept
of the proletariat, which had by that time become institutionalized and no longer revolutionary.
I'm not sure what you mean by the proletariat becoming, like you said, the proletary becoming institutionalized?
Yeah, through trade unions through social
democracy itself becoming an appendage of the state and uh through the growth and rise of a more
of imperialism which very much you know compartmentalized and institutionalized labor and very much institutionalized
things that before were much wilder i mean angles and marks talked about this tendency with
respect to the english proletariat okay for so for example like basically
because the proletariat in these more advanced countries has received essentially bribes kind of
like what lennon talked in the imperialist court countries not not necessarily bribes it's just the way
that they they became a new type of subject, right? They became a subject of institutions. A vacuum of leadership had been filled by petty bourgeois leadership that was allied to the state, the imperialist state, and they were no longer an inherently revolutionary subject.
So you're saying the class became unrevolutionary, or you say, I would say that they were just limited by leadership that was guiding them. I would say that they were just limited
by leadership dollars
I would say that
Dimitrov and the Popular Front
thesis was the good place to start
that it's not that they
were they had no revolutionary
potential it's that you there was
a need to embed party politics in a much broader
stratum of the people than just the traditional factory proletariat. So in the case of England,
Marx and Engels talked about the Irish. In the case of central and eastern Europe,
there was a huge peasantry and farmer class that communists had very much neglected. In the American
context, William Foster came from a farmer worker background of a farmer worker organizing.
And that's why he, you know, was able to kind of grow the Communist Party to this extent that it was.
But focusing solely on the urban proletariat was impossible in order
to undermine imperialism it would have been necessary to establish a counter-hegemonic foundation
in the mass subject.
A mass subject other than the proletarian?
I mean, I agree the pro- it's not just the industrial politarian.
Look, the truth is
the majority of the people
in most countries
cannot be defined on the basis of one class.
They oscillate and they have vacillating tendencies and they are compelled by different class principles and tendencies.
And usually this is a middle subject who usually is called the peasantry.
In Russia, actually, peasantry just meant subsistence farmer and nothing else.
But this subject is almost always the majority.
I mean, the factory proletariat being the majority,
is a crisis that will immediately mean revolution.
That's why it's usually very rare for that to be the case.
What about the proletariat
outside of the factories? Would you say they have a fundamentally
different character to them?
The
Okay, so Marx was describing proletarianization, you know, people being separated from their means of production and they have nothing to sell but their labor. That's broadly the proletariat in Marx's time, not just factory proletarians, right?
Right.
But by the time that process becomes so comprehensive
that the alienation from the traditional means of production
is completed.
So in America, when people are being kicked out of their farms
and all these different divisions
of labor that were not yet proletarianized became proletarianized. The intensity of proletarianization
was symmetrical to the institutionalization and the rise of welfare states and the rise of kind of social policies and a social orientation of the imperialist state that very much created a new social contract and almost a new type of property, subsistence property, that was based in a social contract with the state, where you no longer have nothing to lose but your chains. You have a citizenship that is a guarantee of a certain way of life and a certain minimal
condition of a standard of living that gives you the same level of stability that a farmer used to
have. And so the destabilizing proletarianizing process becomes a process of mass institutionalization by modern states and societies, which is even more stable than pre-modern and feudal society in many ways so it was paradoxical and it's something marxist didn't anticipate at all they thought that proletarianization would lead to people just having nothing but their labor to sell and therefore disposed to revolutionary, you know, social instability would collapse, the superstructure and revolution would be inevitable.
It was partially true, but the way that happened was not anticipated.
A new type of subject emerged that a post kind of post-liberal, post-individual,
post-capitalist, mass subject whose rights, classical political rights were also combined with
certain economic rights, objectively, right? And that more or less offset the destabilizing consequences of proletarianization
it's like instead of being think about it this way instead of being a guy who has
nothing to sell but their labor you're now an employee of an institution of control and command of society
most people aren't directly government employees but that's you know they're they're they're
employees of hegemonic institutions.
And, you know, this is, you're no longer just selling your labor anymore.
What do you mean by that? You're participating in a different and a more broader kind of social contract where you are given
certain guarantees of a certain way of life of a certain standard of living you have expectations
that are indeed fulfilled and that becomes the basis and foundation
of the stability of the state
yeah it's basically like what london
was writing about imperialism where
the super profits that are used from
exploding the no not
okay no that was i didn't really get to that point but
that was a distinct tendency these super profits that were being used to that that that was yes the
institutionalization of the new labor bureaucracy and aristocracy was only the beginning. What Lenin didn't
anticipate is how this basically
would become universalized.
And the financial revenues
that were a product
of imperialism or in the post-war period
super-imperialism
in any
case
people are
no longer
living
solely on
the basis
of their
labor
but from
steady
streams of
revenue that
are very
much
financialized
and the extent this is where a theory of class struggle today would be relevant, is who actually depends upon the surpluses that are solely a consequence of imperialism versus who depends upon the actual material wealth produced by labor, by an industrial civilization. So that was the basis of the whole barista debate, by the way, which we got in trouble for.
People thought that we claimed baristas are unproductive because we think that they're less masculine, and that's not true.
It's just because we're trying to figure out in an era where
imperialist
revenues as the basis of people's way of life is universalized
meaning every class is not paid directly because of the sale of their labor. They're more or less paid because of a
indiscriminate revenue. So within that revenue, you have to distinguish what is actually a consequence of the material wealth produced by labor and what is a
consequence of you know revenues monopoly revenues you know of you know of speculative and
finance and so on and so on.
Okay, so you're
saying that
I'm trying to pick up on what you're saying exactly
because I haven't really heard exactly this
before. It's not this idea
that working class
people in like the West
are counter-revolutionary or like
unrevolutionary. It's not it at all, yeah.
Sorry.
But it's also not
so it's like this idea that you have
steady incomes because of the stability of
imperialism through things
like state benefits for example
and you're guaranteed of relative stability of life
from the system and also it's not
only state benefits like look at Trump
freaking out about the Strait of Hormuz.
The state proactively tries to ensure that there's going to be a minimal standard of living that's fulfilled within the population for political purposes.
And...
Yeah, that's true, right?
But the thing is, I think that the crisis of capitalism doesn't stop that from changing.
Like, we've seen the slowest recovery ever since 2008 for example i i agree to an extent um
but i think that it 2008 can simply last much it's not going to culminate in a marxian crisis
because capitalism as we know it is based going to culminate in a Marxian crisis because
capitalism as we know
it is basically functionally dead
it doesn't have to be ruled by the laws of capitalism anymore
what
yeah it's a
it's a pretty unsustainable yes i agree but it's a it's a it's a command of the
productive forces but via some type of political fiat now are you saying like the laws of capital
or like the notions that marks put forward are changed or like i agree with a new economic system a different financial system those precisely didn't change what changed is history uh we are in 40 trillion dollars in debt and yet the steamboat is still tugging.
Okay.
So think about what that means.
Well, I think we've seen a lot of examples of states in the past capital estate,
Borgiaw states that are able to keep trucking along with huge amounts of debt even even historically right no uh we saw
not really but it's unstable it's almost i mean no this has been happening keep in mind this
is since this is almost a century now. So this is very different.
You're saying that in the past they haven't been able to move along with significant amounts of debt.
But now you're saying that maybe a century where they're just what printing money out of nothing and just keeping the system moving because of aircraft carriers and...
Well, they do have a strange level of control now, but this, like, quantitative easing, for example, this money printing policy, can't go on forever. They're going to hit a very hard limit.
There's going to be a tipping point.
Why can it be forever, though?
Because eventually the U.S. will
have to pay its debts, and eventually
people are going to realize the U.S. is not a very
good debt payer. People are going to stop trusting the U.S. is not a very good debt payer.
People are going to stop trusting the U.S. government
to actually pay that's why. I'd someone take out a bond.
The debt never has to be paid.
A lot of the debt
is, you need to understand how the system
works. As long as part of the debt is, you need to understand how the system works.
As long as part of the debt is continually serviced, everything's fine.
Look, put it this way.
I'm going to explain how we're paying back the debt.
So if you're a Japanese businessman, you're buying U.S. government bonds, you actually are getting paid back.
True.
But when we're paying that back, we're printing money to pay you back.
So you're getting it back.
Don't worry.
But then the balance sheet on our end is that we just printed money we didn't pay for. So we're basically
like in debt to ourselves.
Okay. And the guy in Japan doesn't care
about that. He doesn't care if we're in debt to ourselves.
Well,
wouldn't the Japanese
guy care if we're so indebted to ourselves
that we're having to cut
social services to
just afford to pay the debt?
No? No, he doesn't care.
So you don't think there's any limit to the US
debt spending? The only limits are
political. The only limits are based
in the logic of civilization itself. Like, how much more will the people tolerate psychologically and politically? Yes, I think those are explosive factors. But by the way of the economic system itself, is there going to be a Marxist breakdown?
No, that happened in 1929, and that's when it actually happened.
The one Marx predicted did happen.
But something else has, you know, emerged after that, um made economics less directly you know capitalist crisis no longer
directly corresponded to an immediate uh crisis of of politics.
I see you were coming from.
So I got two points if you can let me finish.
The first one is that I agree
that right now, unless there's a significant
transformation in the activity or the
consciousness of America...
Leonard DuBore, what's up?
Sorry? Don't worry about it. I'm somewhere else. or the consciousness of the American workers in America. Sorry.
Don't worry about that.
I'm somewhere else.
No, you're cool.
Unless there's a significant change in consciousness
or a huge movement of the workers,
they will keep on going up with this, right?
The state can get away with doing almost
anything it needs to without the conscious
intervention of working people. Sorry about the traffic. It was crazy. But at the same time,
there are absolutely limits and they will be hit. And I'm curious what you mean by 1929 being a Marxian crash and the potential for one not like that ever happened.
I just mean the one like Marxian directly predicted what happened based on what he wrote in capital.
Okay.
So I'm not,
can we bring this on back to
permanent revolution and
socialism in one country?
Because I still...
Revolutions cannot be permanent.
They have to have a...
But they are constantly in motion, aren't they? Sure.
Green. One's over good on green. One's over good on green all right we're good on green all right we're good so the earth is is constantly revolving around the sun okay so what we call a qualitative determination. It could be an apple, it could be a biological organism, any qualitative determination, a planet, a solar system, anything. Ultimately, those are,
according to systems theory, there's systems. That's the premise of systems theory.
Systems theory is kind of like the bourgeoisie's approximation of dialectics. It's not quite there,
but it's an approximation.
Every given thing, though, is not just a thing. It's a process. It contains an internal process.
That's the kernel of truth in systems theory. every given thing is really just the form of a
process when the process acquires form the revolution has complete when revolutions complete
yes they continue to move but they don't move in ways that um that uh how should i put it um they move with such a degree of consistency and they move with such a degree of stability and predictability
that they become forms. That's where form comes from. When a revolutionary process stabilizes, we no longer see it as in motion.
The only things we see in motion are the things that, like put it this way
when you see a guy walking around
yeah he's walking around
but it's the same guy right
or
when you see a
um
when you see a car
its wheels are moving,
actually, you really can't see the wheels are moving
if it's going at a sufficient speed. You just see a wheel.
There's so many other examples of like, you see something that looks static,
like a self-same
form but actually underlying it is a is a constant perpetuation of a process and a cycle
so i don't think the october revolution uh ended in the sense that the motion ended it till it's i mean even to this day in the
russian federation it's still turning off those wheels that began in 1917 for sure but what
happened is the revolution acquired a determination. And Trotsky hated that. He thought the revolution
should continue to solely be defined negatively, but revolutions are also eventually acquire a positive definition.
Just negation, eternal negation is not the same thing as revolution.
Trotsky's permanent revolution really means permanent negation.
Well, I think permanent negation. Well, I think
permanent negation is a part of this
process of motion. And I'll
go to what you're saying here about
that's a nice hat. But negation has
the opposing tension of
you know, uh don't actually negation and positive determination
and together they form a qualitative determination so you, you know, even a particle in modern physics, you know, a neutron or a proton or an electron, very much are suspended in negation, but also positive determination.
It's a relationality.
You know, it's a polarity, right?
Sure.
So, so there's this, like, constant transformation of the revolution.
You would argue, like, you say that it's constantly changing, right?
But you'd argue that it doesn't take on these
qualitative leaps that would qualify
it as a revolution again.
Right? Am I getting that right?
A new revolution.
Okay, for example, China.
China had the revolution in 49, but it also had the cultural revolution.
But the cultural revolution did not overthrow the proletarian dictatorship in the party state.
It was the reason it was a new revolution was because it was happening at a different dimension of society.
And yes, there are dimensions of a civilization in society that can continue to be, that can be open to new revolutions but
when a revolution stabilizes
you have a changing of the guard
that is continual that's processual
and which is what?
Denastic.
So I would argue the DPRK is a revolutionary state.
But the succession, the dynastic succession of leadership is revolutionary change, for sure.
But we don't think of it as revolution because it's it doesn't seem like it's new just like when we see a wheel turning it's nothing new
but as such that's it is new right it's it's a passing of the baton it is a change a generational change and so on so i have a kind
of dynastic notion of revolutionary succession okay well all right i see where you're coming from
so it's a bit of a differentiation between the initial revolution
which takes hold, like let's say
1917, and then it
goes through cycles, but you wouldn't call those
for the revolution. So, one
thing I do want to stick
on is the possibility,
sorry? They are
new revolutions but
they are revolutions that deepen and
enrich the
forms and qualitative determinations
that emerge out of the
revolution rather than liquidate them.
Okay. So two things
that are part of this, I'm curious about.
What would you consider the, would you consider
the withering away and eventual abolition
of the state a revolution? And then
how do you think you could have a revolution
that sticks to one country
that's able to actually achieve socialism
without spreading internationally?
Well,
the way,
okay, so
the revolution, okay, so the revolution, so the revolution
corresponding to the withering of the way of the state,
the way I see it is just a continual process
of dynastic revolutionary change,
like Mao's culture revolution, and so on and so on.
These cycles, after a certain threshold of cycles, eventually, yes, the state proper that was defined by angles withers away. Now does that mean central authority
is gone?
I don't think so.
Of course not.
Yeah, you still have to have
a small organizing apparatus.
Yeah, so the deepening
of revolutionary cycles.
Now, the second
question you had was, how can
revolutionary cycles continue to deepen
without inevitably spreading?
And my basic response to this is that
I think that
it is inevitable
that they spread
actually
but they don't spread
like a certain
nodal center
just expanding
and they don't spread
in an expansionist way
they spread more in the sense
of the creation of a revolutionary center
which is like a center of gravity
which then influences the rest
of the world
like the common term
no not even
okay um you know uh our experience of civilization and our reality
globally is very much interconnected what happens in america very much affects the threshold of
possibility that is imprinted upon our what happens in america very much affects the threshold of possibility
that is imprinted upon our brains and our minds
and you know the the the arab spring for example absolutely affected america
so and the way this happens is it just furthers and extends the threshold of what we consider possible within a civilization. Monkey see, monkey do. We tend to, like a tick, like a viral TikTok challenge, like the ice bucket challenge or something, right? Like a trend. There's a certain logic of civil society of like trends can spread.
Yes, like if there was a revolution in the U.S.
It would be a role model for the whole world.
Yeah, yeah, it would spread like a trend.
Trends can spread.
That's the point.
So there's a logic
of civil society at play that's global
for sure.
And I think that's inevitable.
But what's not guaranteed, it's never guaranteed
that the revolution
will influence a given country in a way that you
expected to. Stalin didn't anticipate that the revolution would influence China in the way that
it did with Mao, for example, right?
So that is the way that revolution spreads
in a revolutionary way, by the way,
because I think Mao was more revolutionary
than Stalin in many ways, right?
And... in many ways, right? And this is what guarantees the openness of the revolutionary process, but there's never a guarantee from any central place of control that it's going to expand within your control.
The control aspect isn't there.
So, yes, revolution spread, but not within the control of revolutionary actors within a given context.
So... within a given context so you're saying that it doesn't spread by the
movements of a revolutionary actor I mean wouldn't that be the
party are you saying it doesn't spread across national lines through
revolutionary action yeah yeah if I'm a If I'm the revolutionary actor within my nation
and I'm participating in the revolutionary process,
I can't control how that's going to influence another country.
I am not the leader of that country's process.
You know, even the Robespβthe Jacobins understood this, by the way. That's why Robespierre was so against
expanding the war effort in France. He didn't want to become a war of expansion because he's like, we have,
we are the subject, we are participating in our own revolutionary process. For us to extend
a degree of control over how that's going to influence other nations means that we're going to be assuming a position
with respect to those countries that's not the same
as one we have to our own.
So they could anticipate how that would have a corrupting effect
on the revolution within.
You know, the imperial
tendency, so to speak, that
we see with Napoleon.
Like this push and pull
between a centralized revolutionary
supporter and, like,
in one country, and the influences
of imperialism coming from another one.
Can you repeat that? I don't I didn't quite understand that.
No, it's all right. So, for example, if you had a centralized country that's trying to develop revolutions in other countries, you're saying that there would be influences of imperialism
onto the country that is trying to spread that revolution?
No, I'm saying that, yeah, well, your country would start to occupy and control other countries
in ways that bypass the process of organically acquiring the popular support and being the voice of your own people.
You know, like, if you're in France and you're the Jacobins, you're an organic son of the soil, you're the voice of the French masses and the French people,
okay, and you said, I want to control how the revolution plays out in Spain.
You don't have the same relationship to the Spanish people, though.
You didn't do the long work of building a mass organization of the Spanish.
You don't speak their language.
You don't understand their culture. you don't understand their culture, you don't
have the same relationship.
So you would be kind of meddling and extraneously imposing your will on a nation
who will simply see you as a foreigner, right?
Well, do you think that if there were proletarians in one country that wanted the revolutionist
spread their country, but they do not have the Communist Party built up necessary for that yet?
That, like, wouldn't they appeal to that revolutionary country to support them?
Even though they are not of that country themselves?
The country would have to
judge fairly.
Are you the actual genuine representative
of your nation?
Or, like, do you, because
the common turn absolutely funded
communist worldwide and gave them the resources
they needed to
do that, but
most of them were not successful.
You know, Moscow
funded everybody until the end,
till 91. But most of
the communist parties worldwide
did a very lousy job at becoming
the leaders of their nation
and the voice of their masses.
And usually to do that, they actually had to break
with Moscow, because Moscow
imposed a certain Orthodox institutional
paradigm.
So, you know, you really...
You know, it's not as though Stalin and...
You know, ML states didn't actually help other communists, is that, for example, if you're
Soviet Union, should you risk it all to prop up an unpopular minority of communists in Germany
and prop them
up basically to be the
heads of state using your own
I'll tell you well that ignores and
neglects the protracted and long process
of building up actual support
and good faith and goodwill among your people.
And for this to be imposed, you're seen as a foreign occupier, basically.
I see where you're coming from.
But you said at the same time spreading the revolution by
invading other countries and by stepping that
process. Was that something
that you support? Like for example,
the spread of the Soviet Union by
armed force into
Eastern European countries through the war?
Yeah, it was absolutely a mistake. Because, um, into Eastern European countries through the war?
Yeah, it was absolutely a mistake because
oh, you mean
a great patriotic war, not the Civil War?
Yes.
Yeah, I mean,
yeah, that was of course
justified by right of conquest because it was the USSR that was invaded and those states were used as the launching pad to do it. So it fell within the logical demand of the USSR that those states would not be militarily used against the USSR.
I don't think the USSR actually forced or exported its model onto those states.
They didn't turn Poland and Hungary and Germany into Soviet republics.
They more or less created basic guidelines of, okay, you know, be a nice good democracy
and don't be an aggressive militarist power.
Sure, it definitely imposed certain terms and conditions.
And, you know, the Soviet occupation created favorable conditions for communists, for sure.
But it's a big myth that the Soviets simply appointed the communists in those nations.
It's not true.
They actually preferred, I think they preferred actually that they wouldn't
be ruled by communists as a matter of fact.
Okay.
So I want to go back to
one of the questions I asked earlier is how do you think
socialism is possible?
I think we could agree like Marxist's system based on abundance in a country and a single country.
What do you mean?
Like how can you have socialism in one country um because because what okay so the relationship of a country to a mode of production is the question, right?
And modes of production take national forms.
Now, usually a modality of production, when it is inceptial, becomes a dominant tendency in all
countries simultaneously
because of the logic of civil society
itself. So you could have
a bunch of feudal countries
and capitalism can prevail
simply because, you know, the logic of civil society.
You know, the disruptive nature of profit-mongering by some foreign mercantile power
introduces practices
and relationships of production
that previously did not exist.
Monkey see, monkey do, right?
And
in the case of socialism,
a country can actually
uh... be advanced to the point of a of a more qualitatively advanced modality of
production
while the rest of the world is backward in the same way that, for example, capitalism can develop maybe in a few city-states and then take over the whole world.
And we can see examples of a superior socialist mode of production actually inspiring other nations with the necessity of adopting the modality of production, not only according to the logic of civil society, but according to the logic of politics. So, for example, in order for the USA to fight the Soviet Union, it actually had to adopt a lot of practices that we thought were exclusive to socialist nations, economic planning, control over supply chains, and so on and so on. And we're seeing something similar with China today. So it is inevitable that socialism will influence the world if it is
adopted in one country but is it possible to
build socialism in one country yes
it is
but that simultaneously
establishes the inevitability
that you're going to be influencing
the rest of the world that you're going to be influencing the rest of the world
if your mode of production is truly
more advanced, which
history shows it was.
I agree.
I'm not here to say that a centralized
economy or a planned economy is a problem. It's absolutely supported. I mean, I'm not here to say that a centralized economy or a planned economy
is a problem. I absolutely support it.
I mean, that's the best thing about the Soviet Union
that allowed it to go from a backwards peasant country
to a global superpower
as the planned economy. It's what allowed it to
win the great patriotic W.A.R.
These kinds of things.
But I want to hear your definition
of socialism on socialism
on one country. I can tell you mine first,
but I'll be in Japan so you can go.
Defining socialism? Yeah, and like how that connects to the socialism. defining socialism.
Yeah, and how that connects
to socialism in one country.
Okay, I would say a socialist
mode of production
is a mode of production
according to the principle of fulfilling the needs and well-being of the overwhelming majority of the population.
Off the top of my head, if you put a gun to my head, forced me to define socialization. of the overwhelming majority of the population.
Off the top of my head, if you put a gun to my head, forced me to define socialism.
I would say that the production is governed by a logic and is commanded by the principle of fulfilling some kind of common social interest.
That's not the only way I would define socialism, but it's like gun to my head.
Define it in less than 30 seconds.
That's how I would do it.
Do you think abundance is a critical element of socialism as like an essential element?
No, actually, I don't.
So this is one of my big sticking points with that theory is that socialism, my definition, is a society where the productive forces are controlled by the state, and there is a democratically controlled centralized plan that executes production, production to an extent where society has its needs and wants fulfilled with more than enough to go around of all the necessary products to move
society forward.
And the reason I
emphasize this abundance...
I don't really have time to
get into all that.
I understand the
abundance argument.
I'm just going to say,
and we're going to
probably have to wrap it up here.
I'm just going to say that,
you know,
the way I think about modes
of production is in terms of
modalities,
of cycles and systems. just like when i talk about revolutions right so production is always a
process that has a cycle right a beginning a middle point and end and a reproduction process
and a mode of production it's almost like a biological organism.
It has to reproduce itself, right, in a kind of systemic way, consistently systemic way.
And, you know, this, it's almost kind of like a cybernetic understanding, where you have to think about...
When we're talking about distinct modes of production, we're talking about distinct...
...modalities of, like, what is almost like a living organism right uh distinct ways of a given
integral division of labor reproducing itself how does it reproduce itself and so on and so on
and the capitalist kind of society, it's like an organism, and how does the organism
reproduce?
Well, the capitalist form of reproduction is where the circuit of capital MCM prime, right, is the basis and the foundation of economic activity, right? So the continual accumulation of surpluses in the form of money, right, in the form of
exchange value, creates this kind of retrocausal, almost autonomous process whereby all manner of economic institutions and relationships and
technological innovation proliferates and so on and so on at a huge scale all because
of this kind of underlying logic of this circuit, of capital, right?
And it's the circuit of capital that prevails as the governing logos, the governing logic of production.
And just from that, Spark, you get the... the like governing logos, the governing logic of production.
And just from that, spark, you get the modern industrial civilization we call capitalism.
So I like to think of modes of productions in terms of these kind of like governing and guiding principles or or
a logic of production, right?
That actually pre-exists a given
state of society.
So, I think, saying
the premise is abundance puts the
cart before the horse i think
because that's a give that's just this particular state of society it's not referring
directly to the the underlying principle of society so to speak right so okay that that's fair yeah so i think going off of that it's like you can
have to wrap it up there i got to bring more guess sorry man don't mean to do it abruptly but uh all right
let's bring on more what actual palantir wants to talk to me like the literal palantir
actual palantir
hello yeah what
hey man i just wanted to say hello and i wanted to say, I wanted to ask, what do you think about the, the ceasefire agreement between Iran?
I'm not, I'm just like, you're, you know, your name is Palantir.
I'm like, what it, Go ahead, introduction to coffee.
Hey, can you hear me? Yeah.
All right. So, uh, I am interested.
Are you still holding to the idea or thought that communism was morally good?
You know, I knew, I felt bad that I was going to be mean to you because of your profile picture.
And I wanted to let you speak before I started judging you and I did allow you to speak
and I just want to let you know that I hate you and I knew I hated you just because
when I saw your profile picture.
Okay.
Are you interested
or not? I've got a couple of arguments.
I'd like to run past you.
Not at all related to the last guy
who...
No, I know. I've been talking to you, robotic
glasses wearers for many days now.
So hold on. Are you going to fully hold on to this idea that...
What do you think of PPP?
Of propositional logic? Yeah, PPP. Of
propositional logic?
Yeah, PPP.
You know?
I think it helps clarify
a lot of points.
I don't think it's necessary
for debate,
but I do think it helps
clarify and make sure
people on the same page
and...
I don't like PPP. the same page. I don't like
PPP. It's not, I don't like
the song.
Okay, well, are you least willing to
entertain
thought by thought? And
as I go
through
give me what you have your
contentions?
Just tell me what your problem is
and go from there.
Well, I mean,
first of all,
I don't know what version of communism you promote, so I'm sort of lost in the dark. B.B.A.B.
Interesting.
Well, while you do that, I'm no.
All right, it's the, the Stalinist one, you know, the Stalinist one.
So would you say that the communist?
Yeah.
Would you say that the Communist manifesto then is a good representative of your beliefs?
Okay.
Yeah.
So would you say that communism is ethical even when you take into account Christian ethics?
I think ethics is for peters.
How? Did religious thinkers not engage in ethics at all?
Petirass did.
Can you expand on that?
Yeah, I believe in something called Tahweed, which means, you know, from, you know, Tachweed.
You know, I believe in that.
And I think ethics is a way to violently abstract and establish as a particular division of mental labor, the innate moral cosmos that animates the soul of all mankind integrally with seamless concrete unity.
So do you not think that and box it off in a petter-assed box and call it ethics?
And then glasses wears molested it.
I'm against that.
I don't want glasses wears to molest any, any sacred part of the integral whole of united mankind.
I believe in the principle of al-Wahdad al-Wzhu.
You're appealing to religious elements, are you not?
No elements.
Just one book, the Quran.
So you wouldn't have any concern with Christian virtue ethics at all?
I don't speak, Petter-Ass Babel.
No ethics.
No ethics.
Okay, so let's maybe take this a different way then
so if you're not engaged
in ethics at all
how do you hold on to the idea
in the first place that communism is morally good
uh al kuran is okay but the corin does the koran not
have a code of ethics does it not tell you how to behave and how to act no code no code
no code so there is no instructions for
no instructions
for conduct in the Quran
no instructions are how to put it put a
chair together it's not there
so if I open up to a random page in the koran it's not
going to tell me how to behave um it will not tell you how to behave it will only show you the
truth so is it true
that there is a proper way to behave?
Yes.
So then there is ethics?
Because if there is a proper way to behave, then there is an ethical guide.
There's no ethical guide.
That's what an ethics is. an ethics is a guide to life.
Ethics is a made-up arbitrary division of a whole that is undivided.
And how do you possibly substantiate that claim?
By existing.
By existing? By existing.
Without glasses.
So I still don't see how that's relevant.
So when I am talking about ethics and morality, I am mostly concerned with how one should live their life.
And so when I open to religious texts like the Quran...
From a law.
Okay.
So let's talk about, for example, what is it, do you have any, uh, do you just, do you not think the Quran is a guide for how to live?
Okay.
Well, here's what I'm going to say then. If the Quran, it guides people on how to live, it promotes a ethical prescription.
No.
Yes, it does. But definitely, because ethics is a guide to life. No, it doesn't. Because ethics is a guide to life. No, it doesn't.
Okay.
Ethics is a guide to life.
No.
Why do you contend that and how do you contend that?
How do you possibly...
Ethics is a secondhand attempt at people
attempting to identify
the...
So when Prophet Muhammad
attempted to guide people and how to live,
that was some made-up second-hand concept.
He didn't guide people on the basis of some kind of discrete divided compartment within a mental division of labor he called ethics. He guided people directly through inspiration based on his virtues, his actions, him as a role model.
So you're a virtue ethicist.
He's a role model.
You're supposed to adopt his virtues.
No, I'm not any of these pederat.
These are molestation victims in your head.
I'm not any of them.
I'm actually just Uzbek.
Okay. Am I supposed to imitate Muhammad?
No.
So what is, what's the whole point of the Quran is it not guiding me and how to live?
It It doesn't guide you as a computer
I'm not concerned how it guides me I just don't know how to talk to someone who doesn't know what it means to be inspired by anything, you know?
Well, I'm very familiar. I'm a Christian. I'm inspired revelation.
You're not. Yes, I am. You worship numbers and not computers.
So, hold on.
I have a copy of the Quran,
and I've got three Bibles in riddles.
He spoke in poetry.
He spoke indirectly.
If you can't get it,
if you can't be inspired by truth,
if you can't be inspired by things,
if you just don't get it, if you don't
understand that everything that guides us and compels us in human beings is coming from a source
that is an integral whole of existence that is simultaneously and continuously compelling
the sum integral totality of all that the cosmos is continuously upon us at every second of every breath that we take.
And nowhere within this is there a distinction between the ethical, the moral, the beautiful, the just
and the good? I don't know what to
tell you. You just separate
all these things. You're partially correct in the sense that
religious concepts are matters of
significance. So like you said,
there are going to be matters of parables. There's not, religious
doesn't exist. religious doesn't exist.
Religion doesn't exist.
It's not real. Religion doesn't exist.
It's not real.
How do you come to that conclusion?
It's just some separate made-up thing.
That's just like, I don't accept the justification of separating it into a discrete division of labor there's an integral totality I believe only in the integral totality of existence and labor I do you do you believe that there are matters of instance and labor. Al-WahdΔ. Do you believe that there are matters of instance
and then matters of significance?
Like, do you think that there's a difference between a story
that has a moral to it
and then morality itself?
No.
As it is.
There's no distinction in reality.
Only in your head is there a distinction.
So if I say that there is a
cup in front of me, for example,
that is not one
communicative aspect
as opposed to
let's say I describe a woman
like a cup full of love
same thing
so the cup that is in front of me is same thing. So
the cup that is in front of me
is literally full of love.
Literally, yes.
How do you come to that conclusion?
Because all of being
is full of love.
God's love.
Okay.
So let's maybe
is, so you said
everything is full of love? Is that including
the spiritual beings?
Everything.
So what about the deceiver, Satan?
Even he.
How can a deceiver be
full of love?
He was created by
God.
Okay, but that doesn't explain how he's
full of love. I mean, if I love someone, why would I
lie to them?
Because how he's full of love. I mean, if I love someone, why would I lie to them? Because you are deceived.
So,
how?
God gave you free will
So let me get this straight
I'm supposed to somehow believe that
that Satan the deceiver is full of love
But yet I am deceived
Yes but yet I am deceived.
Yes.
Okay, so then I'm really failing, because I'm left here with two options.
Either I'm accepting all these different contradictions
that you've proposed,
or the simpler thing is you just don't want to build a moral argument behind why you think communism is morally good.
It seems like you're trying to have you cake and eat it too.
No cake. No too. No cake.
No cake.
Is no cake supposed to somehow convince me that communism is good?
Yes.
I mean, it explains why communists love to starve people
but okay
if you had to
try to convince me
that communism
is morally good
how would you go about it
stop eating seed oils that lower How would you go about it?
Stop eating seed oils that lower your testosterone.
I'm actually allergic to seed oils.
It's a big problem.
So you have no excuse.
No excuse for what?
For being gay.
So effective.
I am... I'm thoroughly convinced.
Do you, like, actually have an argument that would maybe convince an outsider as to why communism is good?
Yes, I do. I mean,
of course I would.
So what is it? I'm waiting for
it. I'm waiting for it.
I'm an open-minded individual.
I've been inquisitive this entire time.
You really want the argument in a proposition form?
I'm extending an olive branch.
You want the argument in a logical form, correct?
I want the argument in a way that is maybe coherent to that I can track and that we can refer back to. It doesn't have to be P1, P2.
It just has to be
referential.
Yeah.
Okay.
Got it.
It's coming right up.
So... so
let me ask you this
you've been very
unserious this entire conversation
if I am a reasonable person
to what like why If I am a reasonable person,
to what, like, why should I believe that... I have a pen.
I have an apple.
Where is this leading?
Uh, apple fan.
I have a pan
I have pineapple
I just want to make sure you're tracking
Are you tracking that?
I'm not understanding why a new song from 2015 has any content.
He had a pen. Are you tracking it?
He had a pen and then he had an apple.
Do you know what happened?
From there, how do I come to the conclusion that communism is more than good?
Well, you got to track the argument first before you understand the beautiful conclusion.
There's nothing to track. There's no context content so you're not tracking it how can i help you
if you don't want to track it there's no content to discuss you haven't enlightened me as to
how that has any relevance yeah to how communism is really good.
All right, I'll play it again.
So typically when it comes to debate,
refusal to take an affirmative position and explain the position you're holding is a form of like fleet running away.
Concession.
All right. Are you tracking that about about as well as junior is tracking
very similar conversations that he had with inspiring philosophy
but did you track that?
I think we're on two different trains here.
Did you track what the argument was?
I'm on the track.
You are driving a Jeep in the middle of the Oregon Sand Dunes.
Okay, let me ask you a question.
If you were living in Dunn and the Messiah came to Iraqis would you have glasses
and be like
no
what does that have any relevance
to the moral status
of communism
everyone's inspired
everyone's ready
they understand
the situation
they understand
they're ready to go it's a very clear thing being communicated. They're oppressed. They need to be liberated to acquire dignity and so on. Would you be like, let me hear the argument so it can track? Is that how you would respond? I just want to be curious.
I would, well,
first of all, a Messiah-style figure, like what we would expect to see
given God's nature
would be a
something like a father figure. And
fathers, actually, from my experience,
love to sit back and explain the world
and how it works.
That's actually like a key facet of being a father.
Why would he be a father?
If Jesus, would you like logic Lord Jesus
if he was alive and be like when jesus was like you know it is
easier for the wealthy to pass through it's either for a camel to pass through the
eye of a needle than the wealthy to enter heaven would you be like that doesn't track for me can you
explain is like would you be like, that doesn't track for me. Can you explain? Is like, would that be your whole thing?
So, like, how would you respond? How would you respond to that if you said that?
How would I respond? I would ask, I would ask him to what he means by
that but nobody had to do that
except you
actually
if you finish that first
to its logical conclusion
people did have to ask
they really They understood exactly
what he meant. No, no, no, because you're, you're opening
He didn't have to put himself in this formulaic
mechanical way. People understood.
So that means the entirety
of early church history is just kaput?
No, you're saying that. I'm not. I'm saying most...
Okay, do you know why I'm not taking you seriously? I want to be good faith
about it. Okay, the reason I'm not taking you seriously is because
your relationship to truth.
Before you get to this, do you understand the full context of the verse you just referenced?
Okay, what's the context?
So, immediately following the Eye of the needle thing,
people did ask Jesus because he was a rabbi,
rabbi. It means teacher. And he
said that he eventually ended up
in clarifying that all things are
possible through God. So when he said that the wealthy
would have an easier time
get into heaven than passing a camel through the eye of a needle.
He was saying that even God can do the impossible. It was a call to have faith in Christ not to not necessarily saying that rich people can't get into heaven.
He's saying it's really hard by default
for them to do that and that if they wanted to
they would have to have an extraordinary
degree of, you know,
faith in God or whatever. So
I don't know what you're talking about.
Anyway,
look, the reason I can't when i think every man in their gut i can argue i mean i'm happy to argue
but when you're operating on the basis of reducing everything to a um propositional form
and you're calling that logic
it tends to be
a bad faith way of conversing
with someone.
Usually the meaning
that we intend to communicate
usually has to...
That's just the whole thing is
this entire time I've been like,
hey, we can kind of ditch
propositional logic and take something more informal.
But you said you,
you know,
you said you have to track it
and all these kind of things
and I just,
I don't know what you mean by that.
I would say I would say that pretty simple. I would just I would say okay I would say communism is not an abstraction. Okay, first of all, I'm not inventing some kind of system I made up
or I think has been
made up at any point. I think
communism is the very basic and
self-evident demand that does
exist
among populations and people
in many different forms for certain, but it's a basic demand and growing awareness that we do exist within an integral, unified division of labor, and that the common reality
we share
deserves to be given
the consideration that
is befitting of our existence
as dignified human beings.
Now I'm not going to, you can strip that and turn that into a of our existence as dignified human beings.
Now, I'm not going to, you can strip that and turn that into an eternal abstraction and reduce it to that as some kind of universal principle that exists in isolation within a vacuum.
But I'm saying that within the context of the actual world we live in, the actual society
we live in, the actual history that we've inherited, and the actual situation we now find
ourselves in, with all the context it implies. So I would like to assume...
So you... I would like to assume that we can all acknowledge. We do live in a real world and we can talk about it without having to be absolutely certain of whether or not at a propositional or formal level
we are being consistent.
I mean, yeah, I'm a realist.
You have not said anything I'm necessarily
like just there that I disagree
with. We do contact and
interact with reality
and there's very real aspects of human nature and there's a
it sounds like you are communicating some degree of like a most common denominator shared
between people correct yeah so then would you say that this most common denominator is something like a human nature?
Hold on. I'm reading something. What are you saying?
So earlier you said that you would agree that there is some degree of like most common
denominator among workers and people and we should recognize that
as a fact of reality.
I would say that our existence
is materially
interrelated,
materially and practically interrelated,
like in actuality.
We share a means of production, and we share a division of labor.
So you would, as you essentially, are you not grounding this division of labor aspect as a part of human nature?
To the extent that I would say that human nature is that we are, we form divisions of labor, we form communities of labor, upon whose basis our existence depends materially.
I would say it's human nature that we are social beings but i wouldn't say a particular form of the division of labor is a reflection of human nature
okay so sure just the tendency of humans to specialize and deviate the labor.
That's cool enough.
I personally, I think that there is much more to human nature than that.
In fact, I think at its core, humans are rational.
I never reduced human nature to that.
I just said that's an aspect of human nature.
Sure. Would you agree that it would be subordinate to other aspects of human nature, such as the things we have more often in common?
I think that every aspect of our existence is subordinate to the kind of logos that pre-exist our
individuation, pre-exist our sense of subjectivity, pre-exists our individuation, pre-exist our sense of
subjectivity, pre-exists our
command of language
even, and that
before we have any of this, we have to be
socialized in some kind of way. We have to
enter some kind of social cosmos
that interpolates us as a something and way. We have to enter some kind of social cosmos that
interpolates us as a
something and as a someone
and that without this
mediation, we
cannot exist, actually.
Sure. I would still say that that aspect of, you know, human nature exists as an aspect of our
rationality, right?
So humans are rational animals and that it is rational for humans to cooperate.
I think all that all things are rational
in that sense. Even plants
are rational, animals are rational.
But
they'd be bar, plants and animals
would be rational insofar
as the creator has
rationally fit them into the world and into the system it created.
No, they are governed by rational. They're governed by rational principles.
Correct, but the animals themselves are not rational animals.
Why not?
Because there's something uniquely special about the way that humans exchange information and argue and debate.
Okay, well, if you want to understand and understand what separates man from animals and simplified, I agree something qualitatively does separate us from animals. The difference between man and animals is that man has to reproduce, it's the only being within the cosmos that must actually reproduce their existence.
A biological organism, for example, doesn't actually reproduce its existence.
All it does is, all an organism is really, it's a relationship between the organism and its environs can you clarify what you mean by reproduces its existence yeah so all the premises that ground our existence we can say these are causal premises so for example all the
things that made us physically possible in the first place whether in the emergent sense of the
evolutionary conditions of our existence you know since let's say the beginning of the universe or the active conditions of our existence, you know, since, let's say, the beginning of the universe, or the active
conditions of our, the active material conditions that allow us to continue to survive.
It just sounds to be like you're describing general reproduction with all, which all organisms
share in general.
Yeah, but the problem is that you cut me off, so we will never know what I was talking about.
I just want to, okay, so go ahead and continue, so I want to make sure I get your whole thought then.
Yeah, so biological subsistence and reproduction isn't actually an act of reproducing your existence with any discrimination. It's a completely passive process in the same way that physical causes are passive, you know, rocks falling down hills and so on and so on. Biological systems do
reproduce, but they do not do so by, they do not do so by reproducing the existence of the thing,
actively. Do you understand?
It's still completely passive.
So would you say that the
difference between the active
and the passive is some sort of intentionality?
Well, you didn't let me get there,
so we'll never know what I meant.
I'm, like, I have to kind of probe you as you go, because I'm, we have to clarify
you see.
I'm trying to get to that key point, but you keep interrupting me, so we'll never know, I guess.
Well, so then what separates human
reproduction from animalistic reproduction right so like I said all the
underlying premises I just mentioned that premise the possibility of a
human being which are inherited by the human being and not the consequence of human
actions, are set before a human being and made an object of their activity. And in this way, the passive reproduction of our existence is impossible
because the dimension of actual necessity intervenes.
And so when we think about what is an act, well, all an act really is, if you ask me, is the entire fabric of the cosmos actually facing itself and closing in upon itself, a human being is a being that reproduces
itself.
That's burdened with the task, that's burdened with the necessity of reproducing itself for itself.
What is the thing in humanity that's being reproduced here?
There's a woman who wants to talk to me i'd rather talk to her i'm just going to bring her what do you want
yeah i was going to ask if you had an argument for moral realism
bro bro bro what is this you have an arra right
yeah no offense
with radcap they kind of now associate
you with moral realism go ahead
I was just curious go ahead continue
um
so
to kind of get back to where I was at, what is it with, like, what is it in humans that's being reproduced, like down in its core?
I would, no, it's interesting. I would say the thing that's being reproduced is actually being itself.
A human, all a human being is a is actually being itself. All a human
being is a
being as
it acquires
particularity
and which
which
which
really is
the principle of cosmos itself itself it's an ontological principle so being as such
um acquiring self sameness with itself.
That's really what a human being is. So how do you attribute that to humans and not animals in general?
Because it seems to me that animals have an almost automatic code of life.
They have like an instinct that drives them.
They are the like,
even Jordan Peterson
recognizes that.
We don't have that privilege.
We don't have the privilege
of being able to be guided
by an instinct.
We have to decisively face
being as such,
for example.
You want to go to the
Hyde-Ggarian route.
Correct, which is why
that humans have to have that
specialty of rationality to them.
It's the rationality that explains why
they have to be so decisive, which you disagree.
All that reason
consists of is the accordance of being with itself.
That's it.
So then you would say that maybe the ultimate telos of rationality is capital B being, being able to
be one with
the creator or
the intended design of the universe.
Yes, that's the that's what reason can
that's the content of reason.
So then it is by reason that
humans decide how to act. Is that
not correct?
Provided
this is our definition of reason,
then yes.
So then
you would say that morality
is a rational enterprise.
Or that ethics is a rational.
Everything is rational.
I would say there's nothing
that is irrational.
So then
now that we've gotten to this idea that morality in ethics is rational, how do you say that ethics or morality is not like this code of conduct that humans can discover? It seems like we're right back to where we start this conversation. Let me let me just simplify
like my entire world
view to you
because honestly it's
140 a.m.
I'm not going to sit here
and spend three hours
explaining my entire
philosophy to you.
But I'll try to simplify
the best my ability.
All right.
So my view
is that being
does not have the discrimination inherently that we impose upon it through creating mental divisions of labor that maybe make it easier for us to attend to these different aspects of being,
that there are these different aspects,
but those aspects are not the same thing
as the different specializations taken on by our thinking consciousness, which are in fact
distinct forms of mental activity, not distinct realities of being. So the moral dimension of being,
I don't actually think is distinct from the material dimension, from the existential dimension, you know, and so on and so on. I don't think the moral is actually separated from the cosmos. I think cosmos is inherently something moral.
And being
is inherently
something that has
a moral
reality to it. But when we
abstract the moral from a concrete
totality, which is in fact part of, we have to engage in an abstraction and treat it as something distinct. When we do that and treat it with this exclusivity and distinction, we translate it as ethics.
And that's solely something we're doing through our mental activity.
Then after we do that, we then project, this product, this artificial product of our mental activity, onto the thing itself and say, you know, this is ethics, this is religion,
this is this and this is that. The thing itself doesn't know these distinctions. The thing itself
is not separated by these distinctions.
So the distinction is artificial to me.
That's why I don't take it seriously.
I think when we human beings engage in ordinary language,
and we talk about sunglasses,
when a random guy in the street talks
about sunglasses, there's
absolutely a moral significance
to what he's doing.
He may not
know it, he may not comprehend it,
he may not have thought it through. But there is an inherent...
For example, every step you take, this is the analogy, when you walk, there are all manner of different processes going on with the one step that you take. There's biological
processes, physical processes, processes that are relevant at the scale of particle physics, skeletal,
you know, muscular skeletal, whatever, biophysical, all sorts of things that are treated
differently within the mental division of labor are suspended in the process of you taking a step.
But does that mean that with every step you take
there is somehow
all of these divisions of labor
are
some, the knowledge, specialized knowledge
and tail by them and so on and so on. All of this is actually there. No, it's one thing that's happening. There's one thing happening. All of it works together and is interrelated concretely and in reality, right? Mentally, you treat these all as separate things, but they're all actually one thing, okay?
So that's basically my worldview.
I would almost agree.
I would say that matters of significance are, in a certain sense, embedded in a sense that when humans
interact with the world they do so teleologically.
The way in which things are embedded
have no regard
for the distinctions
we project upon those things within the distinctions we
project upon those things within our consciousness.
So would you say that it matters,
it doesn't, would you say it ultimately doesn't matter
what humans value?
It's 1.45 a.m. I have no idea how you would come to that conclusion.
So please give me one reason why we shouldn't just wrap it up here.
I mean, I'm perfectly comfortable. I think I
if I could just...
Yeah, I mean, I don't know how you get from that. Like, okay, so you say
you can't have that... What? No, I'm saying the opposite.
I'm saying that our values are embedded
they're not like these separate distinct things like what are you talking about if i said a guy
on the street with sunglasses that there's a moral significance to him talking about that, or literally anything, really.
Of course, yeah, suspended in this are values and so on and so on.
But abstract values are the artificial creations of our consciousness.
They're artificial secondary products of a kind of secondhand mental activity that is in no way suspended in the vital source of the thing that we call a value.
I don't know how to explain that to you.
One more person can come
one more person and then we're done
and it's not going to be a logic lord i'm not staying up for four hours again
uh if you guys want me to continue debating autis every stream drop a 10 otherwise and i understand
if you don't don't but i will not continue doing this shit every stream
uh because it's just a waste of my time honestly
all right one person request or we're done. why did you kick me when you found out i wasn't a woman dude
i don't know because from far away your profile picture
why are you um why are you a moral realist? Why are you a moral realist?
Why are you a moral realist? I don't know who that is.
Can you hear me?
Oh, you're echoing.
One's on the green place if it's working.
Ones, ones, ones, ones if you can hear me.
One's who you can hear me.
All right, you can hear me.
Yeah, I can hear you.
All right, we're going to, this is going to be literally five minutes.
I have to go after that.
All right.
So what do you, you said, why am I moral realist?
Yeah.
Because.
That's my response because
okay well
I'm an anti-realist because
Seattle doesn't really get us anywhere
no you're right but you're the one who requested
I don't have a problem
with uh I don't I don't I don't have a problem with...
I don't... I want to be clear, like, I don't find it necessary to evangelize common sense.
I want to be clear about that to every...
All the logic lords on TikTok.
I don't, on a mass level, think it's necessary for me to convince autistic logic lords
i'm not even no no no i want to be clear about this because it's like for us to take power
we just have to speak to the masses in terms of what they understand in their stomach their
common sense uh things they can feel and understand.
And we don't need to...
Like, all these things you talk about, I'm a moral realist, I'm a moral anti-realist.
In real life, none of that matters at any
level. It's just, you're creating problems
that only exist in your head,
but are nowhere real in the real world
anywhere. And you're saying, well, how do we
talk about? You're like a person cornering
themselves in a dark room, like, well, what is
real? How do we talk about,
just go outside.
Stop psyching yourself out.
You're treating as the,
this is not a problem of your brain.
It's not a problem of your mind to dwell upon.
Like, you can,
you can be like,
how do I, how do I, how do I know what the grass is green and what
the green is, bro, just touch grass.
You're overthinking it in your head because you're separated from the thing itself.
If you're spending so much time making up these made-up philosophies of morality, it's because you're
removed from the actual reality of what is the moral. The moral is very much something everyone
can sense and experience. When you're engaging in these abstractions, moral realism, anti-realism,
it's because you're separated from the thing itself.
Okay, if you were to say my attitudes about chocolate ice cream are objectively true right right do you think like me
asking for an argument for that it's like what would be the meaningfulness of that statement
what would you say what would be the meaningfulness of that statement?
You'd know you'd be making a basically meaningless statement.
You're basically saying you could not consider the possibility that other people don't experience ice cream the same way you do, which would be something I doubt you believe, unless you were delusional.
Well, no, no, no, I'm not saying I believe that.
Look, I'm just saying how do you were, if you were to say that, right?
And I asked you for an argument.
Big Chud, what do you want?
You've been talking shit, haven't you?
My bad.
I didn't need to, I didn't mean to disrespect you
how you doing tonight bro
I just wanted your submission
and I accepted
you bitch
so everyone in this chat
talking shit
just understand
your leader just submitted to me
uh this guy's saying
oh 57 viewers
yeah totally
I only have 57
you're right
I would never violate
TikTok's terms of service
and be somewhere else right now
wait I'm allowed to do that
I'm not I can that. Am I not?
I can't, I just can't mention where I'm at.
Huh?
Nevermind.
No, I'm just streaming on TikTok right now,
nowhere else.
Trust me.
5-4 brown clown My feelings are hurt by that You know, you just hurt my feelings
I got to think about how I'm gonna cry about this before I do cry, which, don't worry.
I just got to think about it a little more. You know, I'm like, what does this woman want?
And then I click it and it's like,
yo, what up, bro?
That was hilarious.
That was honestly so funny.
That was a highlight. all of these weird, like, logic lords, you guys are just not even human anymore, honestly, like, your whole worldview would collapse if a homeless guy just like um just like
jumped you on the street you're like none of that stuff you spend hours debating about on
tic-tok would mean anything anymore like when anytime shit gets, none of the things you care about matter.
You know, like all these things, all these like made up things you construct in your mind
in your head that don't exist anywhere in the world, all of that collapses the minute shit
gets real. Then you become, you have an integral worldview where you just got to act quick, think quick.
And none of these values and principles you artificially construct in your head become anything. Not a logic, Lord.
Bro, you're talking about moral realism versus anti-realism.
Like, how out of touch from the real world do you have to be to talk about that?
Red Maze, what's up?
Do I don't know my argument against analytic philosophy?
Just look at them.
They're all a bunch of fat people at wearing glasses.
And their whole life is hollow and empty.
You want to die like that?
Go ahead.
Be my guest.
I don't agree.
You only live one time.
Is that what you want to live your life doing,
thinking it matters?
It really doesn't, I promise.
So communism is a rash feeling we should all act on without consideration.
You've had plenty of time to consider it, but because you're obese and play video games, you haven't.
I don't know what to tell you.
Plenty of consideration is devoted to it.
As soon as people understand what it means,
look, it's like, when a fish knows what water is, fish swims in the water when mankind knows what the
communism is he seizes upon the communism with a zeal with a fanaticism like a fish seeking water
and uh this is the truth this is why you like a fish seeking water.
And this is the truth.
This is why you anti-communists have to lie
and deceive and create these convoluted
systems of cope and gibber
to... Even you
ANCAPs lie to people
and say, you want communism communism be an ANCAP.
If you want a dignified way of life and you want to be able to support yourself and your family and have dignity, you say, then you're going to be an ANCAP.
See, the basic demand for other people
to have these things is
inherently communistic.
Nobody says this.
Yes, they do.
Unconsciously, they do. Not consciously. Of course not.
Communism.
You want me to nuke you anti-communist? It was never a theory.
Karl Marx did not invent communism.
Communist manifesto names what five to seven different types of communism. Communism is a tendency that happens to prop up throughout human history.
Its origins cannot be pinned to anything, so it must come from God.
If communism could be debated with, in the way you logic lord seek it.
Who founded communism?
Where's the founder?
The reason you talk of Karl Marx is because he's the boogeyman who embrace the role. But what do the opening lines of the Communist manifest? A specter is haunting Europe. Before anyone who knew who Karl
Marx was, a specter was haunting Europe europe the specter is immortal across history people have
been freaking out and people were freaking out and fearmongering about communism before carl marks even
had a name literally in the press they fear-mongering of communism.
Literally, in the same way they do now.
Mr. Paolo, I think Brazilians are annoying.
Are you Brazilian?
He's taking forever to load. I'm done with this shit.
Yo!
What? load. I'm done with the shit. Yo! Hello, how are you?
Are you Brazilian?
No, I'm not Brazilian.
What are you?
I'm European.
Bye. F you, you reactionary, you brown fascist.
Get out.
Get out from our country.
You're a fascist.
You're not a communist.
Get out.
A white guy telling an Arab to get out of the country?
I'm not white.
I'm Indian.
Get out.
Why is an Indian telling me to get out? If you're,
I'm Arab. Who you would say to get out of
the country? I'm saying get out with their reactionary
politics. Do you know you said get out of the country?
So you believe in deportation?
Deporting fascists? Yes.
Okay, but you said get out of the country, correct? So this is a national framework you're working in?
Well, we currently live in a nation.
That's right.
And that's Lenin as your profile picture, right?
So are you a Bolshevik as well?
Well, Marxist
Leninist. Unlike you.
So national Bolshevik.
I'm not a national Bolshevik. Yeah, you are.
You said you wanted me to get out of the country.
You didn't say, for example... Because we currently live in a capitalist
country. I'm not saying we should establish a new...
But why say get out of the country? But what... Me getting out of the country implies
there's a country that you're okay with accepting me, right?
No. What? So where... How could I get out of the country without ending up in another country?
Well, you could die.
Okay, so just say that's what you want.
But you're a fascist. Of course that's what I want.
Okay.
Do you call your mom a fascist when she gives you a bedtime?
Well, my mom is actually a fascist, but...
Your mom is a fascist, right?
Yes.
So me and your mom...
Me and your mom are together.
No, no, she's not a red-brown fascist.
No, but me and your mom are definitely in the same boat.
In the nationalists.
Me and your mom are in the same
boat. You said you want me to be
deported? Well, your mom will be with
me on the same boat. My mom wants to leave
though, that's the thing. My mom wants to be. Okay, and I'll take
her with me. Is that okay?
No. Why not?
Are you going to go to India?
She's fascist, right?
So you should, you want her to die, right?
Just like me.
No, no, not my mom.
My mom's special.
No, you said, unless you have no principles.
You're bourgeois, petty bourgeois.
Well, not coming to my, when it comes to my mom.
I love my mom.
You don't let your mom?
You said she's a fascist and I'm a fascist.
What?
She's with me now.
She doesn't love you anymore. No, no, no, no. Well, like, she's unfortunately, islamatobic, so...
She doesn't love you anymore.
No? He just says I'm a failure. There's a difference.
I wonder why.
Anyway, uh, you said, get out of my country, you
fascist. Then you said your mom is a fascist.
And then...
Wait, is this actually... Can I talk to your mom?
No. No, she would kill me
if she knew I was on TikTok.
How old are you?
I'm 18.
Okay. I'm 18. Okay.
I'm coming home.
I would say that...
I would say that your mom and me have a lot in common according to you, and that maybe you should introduce us.
No, don't press up my mom, bro.
Maybe I should.
Maybe you shouldn't.
Why not?
Because I like my dad.
Well, he doesn't seem to have a say in it anymore because you just said your mom's a fascist.
Aren't you like the head of like one of the biggest communist parties in the country?
Communist quote-unquote parties in the country?
I would say
second biggest,
if we're calling PSL,
communists,
we're the second biggest. They have
1,400. We're slowly behind them.
We're getting there.
But why?
Damn, I didn't know I was talking to such...
I thought this was like...
I didn't... I didn't... Oh, I mean, I knew you were like...
The Hawes, but like... Yeah. Why do people...
Why are people surprised about how accessible I am?
I understand that.
Because like they were going one guest request here.
Yeah, I don't really publicize my TikTok at all.
And I'm not primarily streaming here. I'm somewhere else, but'm using this to for content for somewhere else
anyway uh what what do you want you wanted to yell at me and say i'm a fascist because the
reddit told you well reddit and media's like that's two sources
Reddit and who?
Medium and Discord and TikTok
So that's four sources
That's like academic media
No I mean I'm sure
When you grew up hearing that Stalin ate babies
I'm sure you
Believe it right away.
Also, why are you guys trying to take over
subredits, bro?
Do you think Stalin was a lied about man?
People are saying the truth about him in the in the mainstream like on Google?
No, they're lying.
Yeah, they're lying about me too, buddy.
You get used to it.
They're lying about me too.
Did you or did you not call someone the absolute?
I did.
Okay, so then...
What are we doing?
I didn't take over subredits.
I didn't do any of that.
I did.
No, but you guys are.
No, they're not.
There's one Australian who's doing it.
Who's not even an ACP,
all right? He's just a sympathizer.
I mean, it doesn't matter because Reddit is like...
Okay, he's an ACP supporter
in Australia who's doing it, all right? Cry about it.
You should denounce that.
Why would I... Why do I?
Because it's immoral. It's like I hope Reddit burns to the
ground. I hope every Reddit data server
fucking gets flooded and is destroyed.
Why are you talking to a communist
and talking about Reddit?
Me too, me too.
But, like,
you have to consider
that it's really cringe
to try and take over separate
that's, like,
really cringe to hate.
Okay, I don't care about that.
I literally,
it's not my problem.
I don't care.
Okay, but, like like you should still denounce
it, though? Like, do you denounce
national Bolsheviks?
No.
Okay, well, that one.
It's okay, so then don't complain when people call you
red-brown fascists.
You know what you remind me of when I was like in elementary school and people like
called all the Muslims terrorists and it's just kind of like exhausting.
Like you're so ignorant.
You don't even know anything, dude.
You don't even know what national Bolsheviks are. You don't even know who they are, where they came from, what they actually believe.
They're like Dugan, bro.
Okay, you don't know who Dugan is. You're just an ignorant person.
You know, like the fourth freaking political in front of
being staged
thing.
Okay.
And what's my
relation?
What about
Dugan's ideas
do I,
am I influenced by?
Yeah,
you guys are like
kind of similar.
Yeah,
just kind of
vibes, right?
Not really any
investigation.
Yeah, vibes, right, no investigation.
There he is for LARPERS.
There he is for LARPERS.
Just a bunch of buzzwords and stuff.
No actual arguments.
I get it.
Yeah, yeah.
Of course.
All right, anything else?
What is the Big Haas' opinion
on the KPD?
The German?
Yes.
From the 1930s?
Yes, from the 1930s.
They were too late.
They should have
got on that A game earlier but uh why
because i i i want i want to ask what's your opinion of the third period thesis and like
should timon have hidden the widow of affair should he what did thailand have hidden the widorf affair
like he didn't what the whit torf affair when uh one of tayloran's allies was embezzling funds and tamon hit it
and the conciliators come in KPD occurs
should he have hit that? What is the relation
of that to the third period?
Well, because the conciliators
were against the third period and
in order for fare was the excuse that
Tamon and his allies used to purge the
Considators and cemented the third period
thesis. Yeah. So that would be the correct thing to do.
Talman was correct.
I mean, I think he was correct, too too but why do you think that because if the purpose is to remove conciliators who would change the party line in a false direction then the means by which that's done are completely justified regardless.
Well, I would be inclined to agree, and I also think that social Democrats emphasize too much the SPD's quote-unquote willingness to cooperate
when the SPD banned the RFB
on the nightly celebration.
What's your question?
My question is, my question is
so you support
the KPD, but yet you support national Bolshevism support the KPD,
but yet you support national
Bolshevism when the KPD was against that.
Serious.
National Bolshev, first of all,
I don't support,
I just refuse to
denounce the National Bolsheviks
of Russia. It doesn't mean mean i what do you mean support
they never existed in the thirties ernest nikish and those national bolsheviks were irrelevant
marginal larpers from the post-war period of the World War I completely irrelevant in Germany.
And so they didn't even exist.
The Russian national Bolsheviks is a punk rock youth subculture that emerged in the post-90s period.
Um, well, I understand that i'm i'm talking about like the aspd um all
those all those parties that espoused sort of syncretic uh views between fascism and communism
the kbd denounced those. Which party?
The, which ASPD?
Yeah, ASPD.
Split from the SPD because...
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, completely has nothing to do with the Russian national Bolsheviks.
Why would you say that when they're both like, their core, they're both syncretizing fascism and socialism?
Because that's not what the Russian national Bolsheviks were doing.
Okay.
Fascism doesn't just mean you're adopting provocative aesthetics to trigger liberals. I'm sorry.
Fascism is a concrete phenomena, okay? It's just, it means something.
Well, I'm aware that it means something, but like they're...
No, I mean something material. It doesn't just mean you're adopting aesthetics that are edgy to trigger liberals, which is what the Russian...
It means an authoritarian... Oh, that's a liberal word, but...
No, it means what Demetrov defined it as, which is the dictatorship
of the imperialist finance capital.
The open dictatorship,
the open terrorist dictatorship.
That's what it is, all right?
Well, I mean,
I would define it more like
dictatorship of the bourgeoisiebles... Well more like dictatorship of the bourgeoisie.
Well, not dictatorship of the bourgeoisie, but the state ally with the bourgeoisie to oppress the proletary.
Okay, well, the Russian national Bolsheviks threw Maltaf cocktails at oligarch, so I don't know what to tell you.
Yeah, and the NSDAP also fought with
Jewish bankers and Jewish
No, it didn't. That's the big
myth. I don't know why you keep perpetuating
that.
Hold on, Gabby, listen to me,
Gabby, I'm not interested in you.
You're not my type. So I don't know why you're talking to me, Gabby. Gabby, listen to me, Gabby, I'm not interested in you. You're not my type.
So I don't know why you're talking to me, Gabby.
Gabby, I'm not, you're not my type.
Please stop trying to flirt with me in the chat.
Anyway, uh, what else did you have to say?
Just improve. You should read more theory.
Like, State and Revolution, it's like a really good book.
You should read that.
Okay, yeah, I totally haven't read State and Revolution.
You're right.
What an incredible thing to say.
Apple user.
Go ahead.
By the way, Gabby, the bouncy bend, low testosterone bouncy bend boy, the fact he needs a rematch is a concession that I won.
So let's be honest.
And by the way, who's avoiding anything?
And Gabby, stop flirting with me, okay?
We all know what you're doing.
You're not my type.
Go ahead, Apple.
Go ahead.
I'm just curious on what the major difference between the ACP and the PSL really are?
The major difference is that we don't have, we don't enforce, oh my God, I got restricted. Because Gabby's aggressively flirting with me.
I got restricted.
That's incredible.
The PSL is a basis of strategy on Democrat-Aliant protests.
We are trying to build dual power.
That's basically one of the profound material
differences. Gabby, thanks for
restricting it because your aggressive flirting was
so... Oh, good-day
mate. Hey, I'm not
a commie or anything. I just wanted to talk about
a little bit.
From what I understand,
I don't like people who just, like,
introduce themselves.
Just get to the point, you know.
User, go ahead.
Go ahead. Yeah. go ahead yo hello yeah
oh fuck australians yeah you're you know what i'm not i don't i'm not gonna talk to an
australian right now because it's twom. for me and you guys are just like
zippity do da zip it
you just woke up in the fucking morning
you know you
oh the sun is out
and you're sipping your orange juice
and you're just on you
and I'm fucking tired. I don't want to
talk to you. It's an insult.
Anyway,
we're wrapping this up because
I got censored by
Shabbat Shalom
censored me
Larry Ellison censored me
Shabbat Shalom Shabbat Shalom everyone
Shalom Shabbat everyone
stop censoring me
and we're done
this live me. We're done.
Just Guys, I'm leaving. Bye.
My food is cold. Bye-bye.