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about that. You know what? I don't care though, because I'm going to keep fighting. You know what I mean?
I'm going to keep doing the same shit I always been doing
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W11, what's up? Once our shit is up and running and we've got attention and we start, we build the authority and stuff, then all these fucking sheep will come to us
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W-11. What's up? For those of you that
are high energy energy for the rest of you that's how it is you understand
that's how it is in any case uh all right on a serious no we got some important stuff to talk about
Columbia protests
and the community doesn't know how to respond
and a lot of people are confused about how what they should make of it and how it should be
addressed and how it should be understood.
So today I'm going to offer some clarity on that.
Before we get into it, here's a few things, a few announcements.
I'm going to say, I'm going to be streaming tomorrow, two days streaming in a row.
Woo-hoo.
I'm going to be streaming tomorrow.
Friday, I'm going to be headed
off to ATL.
What's up, Sciop Shorty?
What's going on?
What's going on, Shyaw?
What's going on? What's going on? What's going on?
What's going on?
Siaop Shorty.
Let me tell you what's going on.
I'm going to go to the ATL, 7 a.m.
ATL, if you know what I'm talking about.
You understand?
I'm going to be driving 7 a.m. in the ATL.
I'm going to ATL Friday, going to Atlanta, you understand?
I'm going to the Black Capital of America, Atlanta, to tap into my Afro-Asiatic roots.
Afro-American, strong emphasis on the Afro-part heritage.
You understand?
But in addition to doing that, I'm actually going to be attending a special little event.
And I'm going to try to live stream. I'm going to try to lot because you know who else is going to be there is Jackson. You understand? Me and Jackson both going to be in AT t l Atlanta i'm not going to spoil too much but i'm
going to try to live stream it and do some live streams it's going to be a fun time you understand
so sunday i'm not going to be streaming because i'm going to be in atlanta but i'm not going to be streaming in this setup but i might be streaming because I'm going to be in Atlanta but I'm not going to be streaming
in this setup but I might be streaming by other means you understand with my
phone another kind of stream what's up red demos what's up red ambiance how you doing
how are you doing? How are you doing? What's up? Red ambiance. What's going on? What's going on? How you doing? I got a message for our programmers and coders
for the organization
technical infrastructure.
We run out of time.
I will pay whatever.
I will pay whatever.
We're running out of time.
No fucking jaw. I already gave you guys the green light
months ago. Red Saffron.
What's up? Is Singapore socialist?
Not particularly.
See how I wore my way
out of it.
Not particularly.
Not any more than France's.
Thank you so much, Red Saffron.
What's up? This is going to be an important stream.
It's going to be an important stream because it's going to be a lot of theory in it.
It's going to be a lot of strategy in it. It's going to be a lot of strategy in it. It's going to be a lot of these kinds of things in it. So I recommend you carefully listen to every single word I tell you.
Today. Caleb Moppin. What's up? These niggas prayed on my downfall. You understand?
You know what, Caleb? They didn't only pray. They took action. But you know, you got yourself to blame.
And then you also got yourself to blame and then you also got
yourself to blame for
I mean you've been
praying on Jackson Hinkle's
downfall
you know
in collusion with Fiorella
Fiorella the
ogre you understand
been talking
mad shit
about me
and Jackson
I mean guys
every single
stream I could really just bitch
about how much lies
are being spread
about me and Jackson
and just have that
be the whole stream
anytime
somebody complains about
being lied about
nobody listens
you ever notice that
when someone complains
like oh yeah I'm being lied about.
Everyone's like, what do you talk?
No.
Are you?
No.
Okay.
I mean, it's like exactly what Zijik says.
I know very well, but it's like, okay, you're being lied about.
But you're not really being, like,
people, people can accept this superficially,
but they don't really understand
that it's actually true.
You understand?
Like, in their head, they're like,
okay, whatever, you're being lied about,
but, like, they don't understand,
like, no, no, you're actually, I'm actually being lied about.
Like, it's actually a fucking lie.
And I've come to be at peace.
No, no, you're never at peace with it.
It's more like I've come to understand it better.
Because I'm a communist to the capital C and I'm a
Marxist Leninist and I finally
understood
so many Stalinists who
knew the truth about Stalin and the
Soviet Union been
seen it with their own eyes
they were going up an avalanche up against an been seen it with their own eyes.
They were going up an avalanche,
up against an avalanche of lies.
And you know what they thought to themselves?
Fuck the world.
If this is what you want to believe,
fuck you and suck my dick, bitch.
I'm not even going to argue with you
that's straight up
why Stalin gets lied about
that's why it's only people like
Grover fur
and a few others in the English-speaking
world that fight back so hard against it,
to the detriment of their own mental health.
Thank you so much.
Krasse!
What's going on, man?
What's going on?
But it's like...
I mean, communism is the single most lied about historical phenomena in the history of mankind.
In the history of all humanity, nothing has been lied about more than that.
And the communists who know this empirically gave up trying to defend it because it was just so tiring.
They're like, you know what?
If the world and if history chooses it to remember it in this way, may you all be damned to hell and fuck all of you.
Like, you guys would be surprised to know
that Marxism, Leninism was actually true
as an outlook and as a method. Like it was actually the truth.
Communism was actually real. It was actually the truth. It was actually the truth. Communism was actually real. It was actually the truth. It was describing
what communist propaganda was saying was actually true. Like, it was actually true.
That's what's shocking to so many people.
No, no, it was actually true.
The anti-communist propaganda was all lies.
It was literally all lies manufactured by demonic Satanist scumbags,
lying through
their teeth from scratch, just
liars.
All the people
in the CIA and the OSS
and whatever, not the OSS because
that was World War II, but all the people in the CIA
and MI6 and all of the
anti-communists who were spewing lies in the 20th century, every single one of them is getting
raped in hell right now if they passed away. If they passed away, right now they're being raped in hell right now if they passed away if they passed away right now they're being raped in
hell by dogs by demonic death hounds right now in hell for their disgusting, evil fucking lies.
What kind of faggot do you have to be to spread lies?
Like, what's your whole M.O?
Uh-huh. I'm just
going to fucking lie.
You deserve
what's coming to you in the afterlife you piece of shit how do you tell a lie like that
i don't understand that who i just get a twist it what is what's the motivation giggling at how fucking
stupid and retarded people are for believing in it.
That's why I believe we should go back to medieval times.
We should straight up torture liars publicly in the most brutal medieval manners. If you're a liar and you're one of these demonic, disgusting
goblins who methodically and intentionally spreads bullshit about others, such as myself and Jackson,
I believe you should be tortured in public
in the middle of the town square.
Tortured to death.
That is what I believe.
And you know, I'm just saying this,
it's not even the truth.
The truth is,
you should just get a prison treatment and just get shanked.
Because that's what they do to people in prison.
You know, if you start fedjacketing people in prison, like Fiorella and all them people are boosting this shit, in prison, if you start fed jacking people, don't shoot the messenger, I'm just telling you how it works, and you don't have proof, and you're just spreading lies and rumors and shit, you get shanked to death and die, you get beaten to death, and you die.
They straight up murder you for less.
That's an honor code, you know, and straight up.
That's an honor code.
I don't know why I'm on this crazy talk because this has nothing to do with the topic.
This was all spurred on by a Caleb Moppin donation there you have it there you have it but no it comes to the great surprise of many people that I don't lie I straight up just like
tell the truth I don't lie about I straight up just like tell the truth. I don't lie about my enemies. All I do is tell the truth.
What do what, what have I lied about? What do I lie about? Nothing. Literally nothing. I straight up just tell the truth. That's why nobody gets in my VC and challenges me. Because like I stand
on business. I ain't got to remember shit because I just tell the truth. You understand? It's that
simple. It's really black and white. It's really black and white
okay so let me talk about Columbia
all right now we're going to talk about Columbia
we're going to talk about Columbia
we're going to talk about Columbia
seemingly it's a paradox.
So let's get a few things out of the way that we know, which is why this is a difficult issue for the community.
The protesters at Columbia, by and large, are not our friends.
They don't like us, and we don't like them.
They are on a class level, not allies of any revolutionary movement in this country, in terms
of their class basis.
That specific demographic and personality is also the same one that we have a very, very bitter, bitter, bitter, bitter relationship with.
These are the type of people that we've literally been dealing with, right?
Straight up demons.
Dishonorable, disgusting,
evil scum.
We also regard
them as optically bad for the
socialistic movement in general.
They give socialism a bad name in America and they in general. They give socialism
a bad name in America and they're responsible.
We have so many different criticisms of them,
which I'm sure you're used to and I'm
used to. So these are the
students. We don't like the students.
Generally. We don't like the students.
Generally. so that should be a done deal it should be
an open and closed case but but it's actually not that simple it's actually not that simple. It's actually not that simple.
And I'm going to try to explain this in the best way I can.
What's up, Red Saffron, Revolutionary? What's going on?
Now, I'm going to simplify my position.
Red Saffron! Let's go!
Let's go!
Um...
You know, I'm going to go ahead and simplify my position, which is there is absolutely no reason anybody should be speaking
against the Columbia protests. There is absolutely no reason anybody should be helped spreading
propaganda against them and accepting the inframing of oh my god these ridiculous BLM students i mean i mean to choose your side
america are you going to be shut the fuck up you Zion bitch. We see your tricks a mile away.
And we, I'm not going to let myself or my community fall for it.
What's up, Australia's steady with the 25.
Let's fucking go.
Let's fucking go! Let's fucking go!
Excuse my volume.
There's no reason we should condemn the protesters,
or accept the inframing the convenient.
You know, I saw a clip, for example, of a Zionist woman counter protesting by herself.
Everyone was wearing masks around her, and she wasn't.
And she was like, look at all these
NPCs wearing masks.
I'm not wearing a mask.
So they're trying to,
they're trying to like rope in a bunch of other things.
And it's very,
this is why the media,
by the way,
is constantly covering the protests.
Instead of covering what's going on in Gaza,
because they want to frame the issue precisely in this way. Oh, if you were against mask mandates,
then you should be pro-Israel, right? It's a very convenient framing that they're engaging in. But you know what I think?
I don't think it's going to work. And to be quite honest, this is what I wanted to talk about today,
I am deeply fascinated, not simply by these protests in Colombia and elsewhere.
E.K.S. What's up, man?
Not simply what's going on in Colombia and elsewhere. I'm deeply fascinated with the pro-Palestinian movement in America.
Because it has really enthralled people otherwise, you know, I would totally be against them, otherwise totally be against them.
A bunch of shit libs, libtards, whatever.
But there's something about the Palestine movement that I find so fascinating.
And I know there's all these critiques of it because of its connection to the billionaire class and whatever.
But I think a lot of those people kind of are missing the real point.
The Palestinian issue somehow manages to supersede all of this
baggage and present itself as this fundamental contradiction, which is
somehow able to cut across
all of these
different social formations,
all of these nebulous connections
and, I mean, put it this way. If you're
one of these retarded
parapolitics faggots
constantly like I'm going to draw the connections
we're going to draw the connections right
one of the things I find so hypocritical
about these people is that all the connections
are among the progressive
leftists that's where you find all the connections there among the progressive leftist. That's where you find all the
connections.
There's so many. It's like you're, it's very
selective what connections they pay attention
to. A guy can meet
someone and shake his hand one time on
camera and that's an indictment
as far as their connections
but an activist group
can literally get millions and millions and millions
of dollars from
billionaire or
NGOs that are connected with the CIA
or something and they just like turn a blind eye
to it and ignore it.
But I actually think the Palestinian
issue, in a way,
I think it's really a rebuke
of parapolitics, the whole
paradigm of parapolitics, the whole paradigm of parapolitics.
And the paradigm of parapolitics is more or less this notion, oftentimes you see these
idiots like Jimmy Fallingong.
This is an example
of how it's
become a total clown show,
right?
Oh, the LaRoucite
conspiracy.
Whatever, but these guys,
the basic thesis
is that like,
you know,
there's the
politics on the surface,
and then when we do
parapolitical analysis, we're going to try to, like, tie together all of these different, you know, all these different connections, invested interests, and whatever that are somehow occluded
in the official form
formal form of politics, right?
And that to get to the truth
of where the true power lies, you have to pay attention to all of these connections.
And you keep digging deeper and deeper into the rabbit hole until you find, like, it's really, you know, I think that, of course, we Marxists have a notion of hegemony.
Of course, we don't accept politics at face value.
But it's so ironic because I think that the Palestinian protests are an example of how the parapolitical paradigm is actually missing something.
It's missing how the object that they're looking for, deep, deep under the rabbit hole or whatever, that object is actually superficial object it's a superficial object it's
something actually on the surface and it's something imperiled on the surface it's not a deep
vested private interest behind everything it's a radically public interest,
a radically anonymous public interest.
That's how the object manifests itself and exists.
And this is precisely kind of...
A good example of this is precisely kind of a good example of this is like south africa and the palestinian
uh movement a lot of people are trying to kind of what is the real motivation behind
the student protest
surrounding Palestine.
This is secretly
serving the interests
of George Soros or whatever
and I don't think
this is an
I think
I'm going to
sound very schizophrenic
in this stream
but I think this is an outlook and this is a worldview that comes before the Iranian revolutionary paradigm, where everything somehow has to be reducible to some carnal private interest.
I think this is precisely what the Iranian revolution outmoded as a default assumption
for if you're a kind of person disposed of revolutionary consciousness
this vague notion of let's call it um reductionism to the private interest reductionism to some kind of immediate interest, more specifically, not just private, but immediate, right?
And there's something I find so fascinating about
footage I see in Columbia.
Like, yes, a bunch of shitlibs and libtards
and whatever. We all, I don't even, I'm preaching to the choir, right?
But between the lines lines it's almost like
they are a kind of instrument of some kind of hyper object
and they're exhibiting symptoms of it
it's almost like that there's a Hamas virus
that's just overtaken them and they're wearing kaffirs and all this and it's like yes they're cringe and whatever we don't like them on a personal individual level but at the aggregate level you can see how this fit this thing that's going on in Gaza and in Palestine is somehow affecting the highest institutions of the liberal hegemony that's behind the hegemony, in the capitalist hegemony and such as the institutions of higher learning
and i think we should not underestimate the significance of that i don't think we should be too quick to engage in a reductionism.
I think we should, first of all, appreciate that we are witnessing the development and the unfolding of a radical,
irreconcilable within the framework of the institution
contradiction taking place at the highest levels of the hegemony,
of the hegemony, such as, in this case, the institution of higher learning and you know it got me thinking about a few things
like for example the Iranian Iranian Revolution, once again,
and actually the role that students played in that revolution,
it's always been a kind of inconvenient difficulty for the Marxist worldview
to grasp why is it that in the postwar era of the 20th century why you have students played such a fundamental role in the decolonization in revolutionary movements and. And we know
in the West, the
workers movement was totally outpaced
by the student movement in the West
when it comes to the anti-war
movement in Vietnam and so on.
And we talk about for example there's the students and they're totally isolated from the people they're claiming to represent like compare their degenerate hippie students and the Viet Cong. There's no comparison, right? It's not like
they represent the same interests at all. They don't. Actually, the opposite is true, right?
But that, but this is what I mean about this kind of post-individual, post-parapolitical outlook we should really cultivate, is that that doesn't matter.
Put it this way.
The immediate interests, the immediate self-interest that's
underlying the phenomena doesn't matter we should kind of adopt a political
phenomenology just like in Herschel's
phenomenology where we say,
okay, the
underlying
immediate interest,
this seems
heretical for
Marxism, because
in Marxism,
everything is
about these
underlying
particular interests,
class interest,
clashing.
But stay with me.
We should adopt this kind of phenomenology, which says, let us shelve, let's shelve any and all immediate self-interest behind the phenomena. Let's just
appreciate the phenomena by itself, what it is, how it discloses itself to the society and to the discourse and how it affects it, right, how it relates to
other kinds of phenomena, right?
And I think that is, that is kind of what, that is kind of the infection by Islamic metaphysics, I think, that Western civilization is now experiencing.
And I regard that as a good thing.
I regard it as a good thing, actually.
I think in many ways, you know, it's, again, I told you this was going to be a schizophrenic stream, know it's it's I'm again
I told you this was going to be a schizophrenic stream
but it's like and I saw Dune 2
and I'm like you know I kind of
am very fascinated by this
Islamicate
Orientalism that's infecting America specifically.
Like, I kind of think it's a positive development, actually.
There's so many suspicions you can have,
but at the fundamental level, I choose to believe that there is no immediate cynical private.
George Soros is not behind this.
Behind this is actually precisely nothing.
An era that can deliver us beyond the narrow, immediate metaphysics of self-interest,
and into a radically, let's call it, desubjectivized, objective,
objective,
phenomenal form of politics,
where immediate interests no longer matter.
All that matters is the thing itself, the object itself.
It's like object-oriented ontology translated into politics.
It's speculative realism, but translated into politics, right?
I think that is an example of
how Islam has
infected the West.
Again, I find that a good thing.
I think it's good Islam infects
the West in general.
And all I hope the far right quotes me and whatever but I I think it's a good thing I think a lot of the problems the West has objectively
on an objective level came from its inability to not to be reconciled with
Islam the West kind of is a fortress-based civilization constantly trying to isolate itself
from the universal civilization created by Islam
which was constantly knocking at its door
sometimes with those
dargillus guns
and I'm not necessarily
saying that the West is bad
and the Muslims were the good guys or whatever. History is history. What happened, happened. On the one hand, you know, the Western Europe represented a usurious civilization whereas the
Islamic civilization
was not that
on the other hand
Western Europe
also is what gave us
modern science
and modernity
in general
and also
communism
so I'm not trying
to say good or bad here I'm not trying to say good or bad here.
I'm just trying to say there was a radically irrevolved, irresolvable tension at the heart
of Western civilization, which became defined in the Middle Ages, if we're being honest,
what we call Western civilization,
because of its inability to cope with the existence of Islam.
By the way, I'm not saying this is a problem of Christianity as a whole.
I think, for example, the Russian civilization did come to an understanding with Islam in its own way, even being influenced by it in these indirect ways and so on. But for Western Europe, it never had its proper acquaintance with Islam, I think.
And Islam, I think, is it, just like Christianity, is an unavoidable historical reality.
It's an unavoidable world historical phenomenon, which every civilization has to be acquainted with in some form. I'm not saying everyone has to become Muslim. I'm just saying you have to respond to it in some kind of way. You have to kind of be acquainted with this reality, this specific horizon, the specific kind of horizon of
existence, civilizational existence. Maybe Islam is a bad word. Maybe Islamicate is a better word. I kind of like that word, you know? I kind of like the
word, uh, Islamicate. Lundonistanis are completing the dialectic in real time. No, Mormons are.
That's what I wanted to get to. Not them, but Mormons. See, I think America is what takes the West to its furthest possible conclusion, both in the world historical, civilizational sense, but also in the geographical sense.
And I think that's why I'm fascinated by this new Islamicate taking form, this Islamicate influence penetrating America from the specter of the fear of Sharia law or whatever to this kind of what should
we call it?
To this kind of
doomed to Islamicate
Orientalism that's becoming very
trendy to the rise in
proliferation. Very strangely, I i should add maybe i'm wrong about
this but it kind of seems like there's a lot of aspects of islamic culture that are starting to be
just kind of adopted as like in a trendy way right it's like people kind of adopted as like in a trendy way
right it's like people
kind of not drinking that
much anymore and more kind of
leaning on coffee culture
it's so funny actually
because we hate of course we don't like
the baristas
but
American coffee culture
is
obviously we know the origins of that right
civilization world historical origins
of that yes Yes, also the
nation of Islam. Also Malcolm
X. These are completely indigenous
American versions of Islam.
So I'm
just saying there's all these different kinds of
Islamicate phenomena
taking shape in America, which I find, actually, I'm very fascinated by it.
And I don't like these petty knee-jerk reactions because I think these are pre-Islamic reactions. They're based in the jahili. Is that how I say it? I don't know
how to fucking say it. The age of ignorance.
Now, as far as
the Sneco stuff and the
Lundonistani stuff, that
is not
what I'm talking about. is that's the Islam that stops in Britain okay see
Islam we're supposed to kind of dis we're supposed to conquer all the infidels
and impose Sharia law on the whole world.
Apparently, that's the goal.
I don't make the rules. That's what everyone says.
There's a version of that that stops in Britain and goes no farther than that and cannot cross the Atlantic.
And it's produced
the most disgusting depraved
grotesque abomination
it's produced ISIS
it's produced the fundamentalism
and terrorism every that
kind of version of Islam deserves to be
exterminated unconditionally exterminated it's not of version of Islam deserves to be exterminated,
unconditionally exterminated. It's not a version of Islam. It's a disgusting,
disgusting degenerate abomination,
which I have no sympathy with at all.
Although British Orialism and kind of British literary figures,
there is an interesting, fascinating orientalist relationship with Islam
that I don't want to dismiss.
I will dismiss the kind of, I don't know what we want to call it.
Anglo, I don't even call it because that makes it sound cool.
It's just kind of this disgusting reductionist
version of Islam, which totally betrays
the spirit of Islam, which I
blame the British for.
I blame the British for that.
But if we cross the Atlantic
and go to America, I think we
see a different Islam. We see
a kind of, we see
an Islam of Malcolm X.
We see an Islam of
based
on a kind of
strong sense of how should i call it we see in islam that occupies really in the
hegelian sense the strongest metaphysical sense of the word the moral right and Islam that intervenes there it intervenes at the level of issues of utmost moral significance world world historical. So in the, for the Higelian sense of the moral,
that's not, not the Kantian one. That's not like what choices you should make. That's like
this, this undecided sphere of our future as a people, right? Future of world
history and civilization. So we see in Islam that's kind of very lofty, that's very kind of
high-minded, that's very, rather than the parochial pettiness of the British version, we see one that is like Mormon.
You know, it's commensurate with this notion of this future-oriented outlook, you know, I'm not just doing it.
I'm not giving it its best, it's proper justice, but I think in America it's a little different, right?
So back to the topic of students.
I think it's at this level that we should appreciate the protests.
And I wish the only people who could watch me were smart, but unfortunately you're always going to get enough retards to not understand what I'm talking about.
I'm not telling you to go to the protests and LARP as a protest.
Finally, I'll make friends with these.
They're not our friends.
And make no mistake, we will have nothing to do with any of this.
Make no mistake, we will have nothing to do with any of this. Make no mistake,
we will have nothing to do with any of this, okay? Make no mistake,
we're not going to build a movement among
these people, and
we should not be pandering to them or tailing
behind them.
I'm just saying you should think twice before attacking them.
Because you're not just attacking them.
You're attacking a phenomena that is bigger than them.
And that's what I'm trying to say.
If it was just attacking them individually
at the level of the class warfare or whatever, yeah, whatever. But that's not what's going on here, right?
And I think one should holster any kind of reductionist instincts when it comes to this.
Now, let's try to understand if we're going to avoid reductionism and engage in a kind of phenomenonology of historical materialism, let's call it that, historical materialist phenomenology.
Let's kind of try to understand what it is and what's going on.
Because, again, a classical Marxist would be a little, would find it difficult to make sense of this phenomenon.
There's too much psychoanalysis that would have to be involved to square it with a traditional
Marxist view. Why is it that on a superficial level, students appear to be at the vanguard of
anti-war movements, anti-imperialist movements, or movements in general that just have
moral significance in general. Why are they at the
forefront of it? Now, keep
in mind, I'm impressed in a way
because, for example,
there's all these other stupid
things that students get caught up in activism about the
gender stuff total nonsense right environmentalism uh not just environmentalism but kind of
like extinction rebellion level stuff right there's so many ridiculous things uh the
trump oh my god whatever but somehow they're able to brush everything aside brush all of this
lgbtsy aside brush everything aside, and fully, fully own up to the immediacy of the contradiction represented by the genocide in Gaza, or let's say it is a genocide but
the war for Palestinian
liberation. It doesn't matter
Hamas is, it doesn't matter
Palestinians don't have a
liberal culture. They don't have a liberal
culture but no one cares.
They're focused on the immediacy of this.
I find that I choose not to be cynical about that. I think there's something about that
worthy of an optimistic appraisal.
I find it, I mean, like, to me, that's impressive.
You know, I'm impressed by it.
I'm impressed by their ability to ignore all this meaningless nonsense and just focus on this issue and put this issue before everything else.
So let me go ahead and say that. I'm very impressed by that.
Second, how is it we should understand the phenomena?
In general.
Well, I would like to kind of go back to the era of the Vietnam War to do it, to understand it.
It's a big, it's a big, let's misconception, that's the word I'm looking for, that the Vietnam War was one of the catalyzing factors of U.S. defeat in Vietnam.
Not true.
Not true.
For the first years of the Vietnam War,
we didn't see a huge student movement or anything.
It was only after it became clear
that the United States could not win in Vietnam, only after it became clear that the United States could not win
in Vietnam, only after they
started losing all these major battles
and whatnot, that's what catalyzed
the student movement.
And you know, the same exact
thing is going on when it comes to Palestine.
The Palestinian issue is not new
the criminal treatment of the people of Gaza is not new why only now are this university protests happening and occupation happening?
Why has it now gotten to a breaking point where the government is trying to send in the National Guard and brutalize these protests just like Kent State during the Vietnam War. Why now? Well, I'll tell you why now.
Because now, unlike before, the Palestinian cause is no longer hopeless. Now, Hamas and the Mikalama are going to win this.
And so, as if to get ahead of the fact, the Western subject, American subject, the student, who is otherwise a drone of the hegemony, who is otherwise completely subservient to it, wants to beat material reality to the chase, so to speak, and flesh out the existential and moral consequences only to avoid having to confront the fact of the material consequences preceding those now what i'm, it may be very difficult for you to understand.
I'm going to try to simplify it as much as I can.
But take Vietnam, for example.
If the Vietnamese are losing, who gives a shit?
Nobody cares, right?
The students don't care.
But if the Vietnamese
are winning,
it is much less humiliated
for the bourgeois subject
to say, I'm against
this war for moral reasons,
and it's an outrage, and we should need to pull out because it's wrong.
Versus them just winning and leaving you looking like an idiot, how would you respond to it, right?
So it's like you're beating material reality to the chase by attempting to make it seem as though it's determined by morality. Students did not win the
Vietnam War. The Viet Cong with guns won that war.
Likewise, the Mukalama has not gotten as far as it has because of liberal protesters or college protesters.
It's gotten as far as it has because of the strategic genius and brilliance of the irgc in coordination with the resistance groups of the entire region including and especially Hamas and its allies.
That's why it's gotten as far as it has.
In other words, brute material force,
which is not at all premised by any kind of abstract morality at all.
So this is what needs to be appreciated
here when we understand
this. And
it's only
happening now because the liberal hegemony, the Democratic Party, is imploded.
It's imploded. Put it this way. This is why the Zionists are so foolish. They say, oh, Hamas is going to win because all these stupid, naive, liberal presidents.
No, that's your cope.
Hamas was winning.
And inside of your own house, you're not even able to maintain morale anymore because of that fact
if the palestinians were unable to put up any resistance at all like in 2014 and before
you wouldn't see these student protests.
They wouldn't care, right?
But now that the Palestinians have the strength
to prove their ability to really, really,
win, actually, only now, when, actually, only now is it impossible to maintain morale within the institutions of the hegemony.
And I'm not necessarily saying this makes students bad or this makes these people bad or good.
I'm just trying to tell you why it's happening now versus not before. you should not elevate the student protests to the level that the Zionist wants you to elevate it to the point where you're taking a side.
No, sorry, you're taking a side against them.
Because first of all, it's even absurd on face value.
You're going to side with Columbia, college.
Look, everything we dislike about these students in terms of their worldview where do you think they fucking learn that from they learned it from columbia they learned it from columbia professors they learned it from the people who fund columbia they learned it from what columbia as an institution
teaches them all the things we hate about the students actually blame the university institution
in the first place if they're causing a ruckus and they're causing trouble for Columbia, why should we not be happy about that?
Why should we not be happy about that? I'm happy about it.
You think, I mean, what kind of pussy do you have to be to be like well it's disrupting their
people's classes who gives i'm glad it's disrupting classes at least it's not disrupting ordinary people going to and from work and going to and from home, and it's not disrupting a guy driving his daughter to the hospital.
Yes, it's disrupting the academic learning environment. I'm glad it's doing that, actually, because that academic learning environment is a breeding ground for terrorism against the American working class, first of all. So I don't understand why anyone would think it would be based to side with the university against the protesters.
It's just a no-brainer.
Even from our extreme version of our position, right?
Um... so let's just get that out of the way.
Um, that doesn't get that out of the way.
That doesn't mean my heart is with the protesters or whatever.
Like, I have no illusions.
I have no illusions that taken individually, we don't like these protesters,
only taken individually, but we should prioritize the We don't like these protesters. Only take it individually.
But we should prioritize the phenomena over the immediate self-interest involved.
See, a lot of people will say things like, you know,
SJP and all these groups, they're all funded by Soros and yada, yada, yada, and it's like, okay.
But clearly the phenomena has exerted itself over and above the network of immediate self-interest, which kind of appear to be responsible for it but they're not responsible for it what's responsible for it is something completely outside of the control of
sorrows or anyone else. We should appreciate that
that irreducible
element of
indeterminacy or contingency
perhaps
where in contrast to the views
of the parapolitical thinkers you cannot reduce it to the views of the
parapolitical thinkers, you cannot reduce it to
the network of vested interests.
This is genuinely a novel moment
which, whose outcome is
undecided actually.
I'm trying to articulate myself
in a more
in a more
clear
way so you're going to have to bear with me because I'm not clear way
so you're going to have
to bear with me
because
I'm not exactly
satisfied
with how I'm
presenting
my perspective here
because
what do I mean by this kind of like ability to supersede immediate self-interest?
Am I so naive as to believe that yes, this is the realm of pure morality and universal justice? it's just about like being a good person man like should we choose between this kind of naive bourgeois universalism and a kind of bourgeois cynicism and nihilism even.
Like, is the choice really between Habermas and Nietzsche?
I disagree.
I disagree.
Is the choice really between
Herbert Rand Russell and Nietzsche?
No, I think Bertrand Russell and Nietzsche are actually two sides of the same coin.
And I reject both, actually.
I reject both of these kinds of
presentations of the world
and understandings of the world.
Is it really binary?
No.
That's funny.
That's actually funny.
It's not funny.
It's just kind of, uh...
Clever. It's not funny. It's clever. Slightly clever.
As a hater, I'll give you credit. That's slightly more clever than what we usually get.
But no, it's not about rejecting binary logic.
It's about saying what Stalin said when he said, which is worse?
The left deviation or the right deviation?
He said, both are worse, implying that the golden middle is the good position right that that a priori we have this
position now it's just a matter of rejecting the deviations so uh So that's not necessarily what I mean to say.
Going back to the Iranian Revolution, it's important to remember that one of the biggest critiques by the Islamic thinkers of the Iranian revolution
of Marxism was precisely the class reductionism, actually.
They said, you materialists try to reduce every existential horizon, every belief, for example, to some kind of pre-existing interest, pre-existing concrete interest.
Concrete, I'm not going to use that word pre-existing immediate interest right
but the islamic thinkers of the iranian revolution said no this is a folly clearly there is this
realm this let's just call it, this kind of ontological sphere, this existential horizon that all of us as a whole, all of society is faced before.
Questions as fundamental as like the meaning of our existence, the meaning of life, the meaning of reality and so on and so on right that is something which as far as consciousness is
concerned pre-exists immediate self-interest this is going back to the my commentary on the Iranian Revolution a few streams ago, which is it really, after 1979, it really was about like the Iranian Revolution versus this kind of Anglo-Bentham, Bentham outlook. Like, are people just motivated by wanting to get more funco-pops? Or is there an existential horizon that we all collectively face, even regardless of class differences, even regardless of
differences of individual interests or whatever, vested interest. Is there some open existential
horizon which pre-existence
all of that when it comes
to our consciousness
keep in mind I'm saying
when it comes to our consciousness
because there is a
discrepancy between consciousness
the sphere of consciousness and an actual material reality.
For example, one can say that in actual material reality, yes, there's a radical contradiction at the
heart of it, which is the class contradiction at the heart of our social reality. But in terms of how this registers to us immediately for consciousness, are we first faced with the immediacy of self-interest, or are we first faced with a broader existential horizon, which we all are imperiled within, which in a sense is indifferent to our our
tangibility as individuals
in the first place.
Is there an object
set before us
that pre-exists our
individuation, let alone
classification into different social strata.
And I think that was, first of all, a huge underlying theme
of the cultural revolution
in China, actually.
What do you think the
cultural revolution? It was the great
proletarian cultural revolution.
It's literally in the name.
The whole thing was about how the proletariat at the level of its disclosure to consciousness was no longer a seamlessly immediate self-evident reality. Thus, culture now has a significance
it did not have before.
Now,
we have to appreciate the realm of culture,
a phenomenal realm
of appearance
and consciousness and
ideology and so on and so
forth
then this is in my opinion taken to
its final conclusion in the Iranian
revolution actually
and I think this is what I'm trying to say like
I think at this point
you know the meaning of materialism as we know it now
starts to take form the bad sense of the word materialism, as we know it now, starts to take form, the bad sense of the word
materialism. Like, you know, when someone uses the word, you're too materialistic. They're like,
you just like too many Gucci bags or Prada bags. You just care about worldly things too much.
You know, when Lenin used the word
materialism, that's not what he meant.
He didn't mean having a petty fixation
on immediate
satisfaction of
your desires.
Lenin's materialism was a broad outlook.
It was a lofty outlook.
I mean, so much so that he accused his enemies of being Philistines, of being unable to see the
deeper beauty of the whole concrete existence of reality as it all comes
together into this kind of single horizon of uh of of uh of uh of meaningfulness and uh eloquence and so on.
It's after the information age and the age of consumerism that we
we kind of start to have a confusion about the meaning of materialism.
And to me, this is what justifies the position of the Islamic thinkers of the Iranian revolution against the Iranian Marxists and communists.
Obviously, I don't entirely agree with the anti-communism. I just think whether you want to understand it as a shortcoming of the Iranian Marxism, or whether you want to give more good faith and say, you know, the Islamic thinkers were onto something. They kind of had a point. You don't really blame them that much for rejecting Marxism, given that that Marxism they were acquainted with was kind of immature, right?
Yeah. in any case let's go back to the students
and oh let's continue with Iran actually
you know it's always a funny irony that happens in both the cultural revolution in China and in the Iranian revolution, where it's almost as if tremors are felt in the ground. In Iran, tremors were being felt at the level of the social reality of Iran.
Clearly there's these tremors.
Faintly, we're feeling them here in Tehran in our universities.
Where are these tremors coming from?
Clearly, they're coming from the countryside.
It's about to explode.
This huge social explosion is about to take place. Same thing in Russia. MIG, what's up? Same thing in Russia with Narodniks. They've
Neroldism arose because they felt a tremor
there's a social implosion about to happen
with the rise of russian peasant subjectivity
it's always the students that feel the tremor first because they're at the center
so they feel the tremor first because they're at the center. So they feel the tremor first and now they're
tasked with responding to it. They're tasked with making sense of it. So it kind of imposes
itself upon them as this kind of existential horizon in general, where they are tasked with responding to it somehow, right?
And always the response by students is always a kind of takes the form of the negation of the authorities of the institutions they themselves are based
at. It's a pure negation, right? Like, we stand against the university authorities. If you're a Russian
Narodnik, you stand against the Russian university authorities.
If you're in Tehran, same thing with the universities under the Shah.
And in China, same thing of the universities in Beijing and so on.
You're fighting against the authorities the party bosses
whatever and it takes this kind of form of the pure negation surrounding the inadequacy of the
institution to account for this tremor, this contradiction.
Let me translate this to you in a way you will fully understand, okay?
On university campuses, why is it that people brainwashed in liberal, universal liberal human rights ideology, are outraged about what's going on in Palestine, when that ideology has its foundation in American imperialist degemony, which the Zionist entity is an extension of.
So what's their problem? Shouldn't they support the Zionist entity? And it's like, well, what they are doing is existentially giving form to the contradiction within liberal, universal liberal human rights ideology, for example.
Like, it's clear that the reason they oppose the actions of the Zionist entity is that
it is
insufficiently universalist
and pro-human rights.
Right? It's a no-brainer.
Like, the protesters at Columbia
are protesting Colombia because they regard the university establishment of Colombia as not adequately fulfilling its own values as an institution. It's not adequately enough giving expression to the values
of democracy and human rights
and all the things the institution
is founded upon, right?
So this is the pure
negation. It's a pure negation based on
a contradiction. The contradiction between the
values the institution claims to stand on and the inability for that to be kind of reflected
in the actuality of its behaviors and actions, in this case, the support for the Zionist entity.
So it's the same thing with the Narodniks in Russia, right? It was the same thing with, especially especially in china it was the same thing in
tehran and iran
it's always this kind of one-sided negation and then part two of these revolutions
part two is always something that is very profound.
It's the negation of the negation.
So the Narodniks wanted something and when did they get what they wanted
on the october revolution of nineteen seventeen but tell me why it is that many of them opposed that revolution.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, yeah, this is what we wanted, but not like this.
Put it this way.
If you're a French aristocrat on the eve of the French Revolution,
all power to the people.
Okay.
You're doing the tennis court oath.
All power to the people.
Then the actual raggedy French peasants, the actual French people, the Sands Kolo, whatever, they all, all these poor raggedy peasants all get their pitchforks, rise up.
Yes, all power to the people.
And then the arrest are, no, no, no, no, no, no, not like that. Not like that.
I was just reading Rousseau in the garden. I didn't. Not like that. I didn't mean it like
that. It's always that. Every revolution, every revolution has as an undertone, the first, first revolutionary saying,
I didn't mean it like that.
That was Trotsky, was it not?
I didn't mean it's like, oh, oh, you mean the communism and socialism?
Stalin goes to chat face.
Yes, yes.
We're going to see to this revolution to its conclusion. No, no, I didn't be it like that.
I didn't mean it like that. I thought I was just going to be a commissar and like
shoot a bunch of peasants and like repress everyone for not being revolutionary.
I didn't
know that when we said we are going to build
a state
a democratic dictatorship.
I didn't know that's actually what you meant.
And these actual barefooted
peasants are going to start becoming top
scientists and filling
the ranks of the government. I didn't know that
you actually meant what you said.
During the Chinese cultural revolution,
did you know that the same thing happened?
The Red Guards initially.
Yeah!
Okay, whatever.
Then, then, when the...
Then, it actually happened.
Like, the actual half-illiterate peasants in the Chinese countryside actually did start rising up. And suddenly they had second thoughts. Oh, wait a second. That's not what we meant. That's not what we meant.
Exact same thing with the Iranian Revolution. You'll read it in a book called Perseis all the students chanting yeah yeah yeah and then what
happens the actual iranians the the illiterate peasant iranians respond to the revolutionary call
fulfill it and the students say that's not what we want it and then they join the Respond to the revolutionary call. Fulfill it.
And the students say, that's not what we want it.
And then they join the M.E.K.
Or they go abroad as communists and spend their whole lives trying to overthrow the Islamic Republic.
Because that's not what they meant.
It's not what they meant by it.
Not like that. Not like that.
Not like that.
But it's never like that.
It's never how you meant it.
It's never what you meant.
That is a fundamental reality of communication that i've explained to you in uh like august
2022 the problem of communication but it's a it's the translation error i always talk with it's a
fundamental law of dialectics that the essence of something never discloses itself on the terms of the form
familiar to you, in terms of the form familiar to you, The real content of your
position on a formal level
never discloses itself to you
on the terms
of that form, right?
It's something that
arises as something novel, that
radically disrupts
the formal purity, the
formal consistency,
radically disrupts it and throws it
into disarray, right?
So
what I'm, this is why I'm fascinated
by the palestinian uh campus protests in america
because it seems like that's it it's so strange because america is on this side of the world
and then you have the palestinians East, right? And it's like two opposites
seem like they're coming together, like the most privileged living in a bubble, out of touch,
university student, is converging with this kind of peripheral subject in the form of the Palestinian
wearing the kaffirs
and you know listening to the Hamas music and whatever
and it's like there's something so fascinating about how
it's almost as if this is a this is one of the ways in which
the concrete is disclosing itself and manifesting itself to American subjectivity.
And when I say American subjectivity, I mean the abstract subjectivity, the subjectivity of the pure subject, of the beautiful soul,
right, the kind of Kantian type of subject, the one that dwells in the institution,
who looks upon the world in an abstract, subjective way, right?
The most cosmopolitan, abstract, kind of, 500 genders, non-binary person, whatever, somehow is discovering a concrete existence and reality in something that is the
total opposite of that, the highly traditional, deeply traditional
Palestinian people.
Now, you see,
right-wingers
constantly make fun of this
and constantly try to kind of
Zionists, they constantly try to
like throw a fit over how ridiculous this.
Why is it that these, like, transgender whatever's, are supporting Hamas, who clearly are not
socially progressive, but they don't understand the deeper
significance of this irony, actually, right?
They just kind of have a petty knee-jerk reaction
at the contradiction, but they don't understand why that this contradiction exists in the first place.
In terms of, like, why is it that there's this sense of solidarity the students have?
Now, you can do the psychoanalysis and say, well, they have the solidarity because
they're projecting upon the Palestinians their own grievances. Like, oh, in the same way that I don't
have transgender bathrooms, people in Gaza are suffering, so I'm going to project my stupid problems upon the real problems of the people in Gaza.
I mean, and sure, at the individual level, you can say that.
But at the phenomenological level, who gives a fuck, right?
It doesn't matter.
You know what I mean?
Like, it actually doesn't matter in terms of how this is manifesting.
In terms of how this is manifesting,
thousands of people are, like, camping on the street,
blasting Hamas music.
It doesn't matter what their personal motivations or background story is.
Like that is a very significant thing, you know?
Um, which we should treat it with more
with more consideration than just this kind of like
one-sided
you know with the right wingers they're doing which is the right-wing Zionist
nonsense right there's a so so let me right-wing Zionist nonsense, right?
There's a... So, so, so let me continue, though.
This couple between
their,
let's say the intelligentsia and the objective social phenomena
has always been a true it's always been a truism of every revolution in history
I just gave you many examples of it the French aristocrat whatever
but you know it's not necessarily inevitable that the revolutionary
intelligentsia the conscious segment let let's say,
responds negatively when that's not what I meant.
The whole of Marxism, actually,
Marxism was created actually as a theory and as a method precisely to prepare revolutionaries for the inadvertence of revolutionary phenomena. The whole of dialectical materialism is precisely about how things are not going to go in the way that you expected them to beforehand, and you need to adjust and adapt to it and recognize it and submit to the laws of history.
In the Bolshevik party, yes, Bukharin was there.
Zinoviev was there. Kamenev were there.
Those three, Bukharin, Zinovyev and Kamenev.
Those were the types that said...
That's not what I meant.
Not like that.
Right?
But you know who else was in the Bolshevik Party?
Stalin.
Stalin was also there.
Stalin was not a proletarian.
Stalin was a revolutionary intelligentsia.
And look at how he responded to the inadvertence of the revolutionary situation.
The revolution failed to spread. So what did Stalin do? He recognized the objectivity of the
situation. Things did not go as planned, but we're not in control of the situation.
The laws of history are, and we must submit to the laws of history.
So clearly, this represents a novel...
This represents something we must adapt our theory to, actually.
Not only must we adapt Marxism to this new circumstance,
because this is an excuse opportunist, we'll always be able to use,
we must recognize in this novel circumstance
the very essence of what Marxism is.
This is what actually gives
meaning to Marxism.
This is what gives,
this is what proves Marxism
actually.
This is what proves Marxism was true this is what proves Lenin's thesis was true see the brilliance of Stalin was not just that he improvised in a situation Marxist didn't expect to happen the brilliance of Stalin was actually something a lot deeper.
He saw in this unforeseen situation the total vindication of Lenin's outlook, a vindication that Lenin himself
was unable to foresee.
That's the brilliance of what Stalin did.
He didn't just say, oh, this is a new, we're going to invent socialism in one country because our theory was wrong.
No, your theory was actually right.
It was just right in a way you didn't expect it to be.
That was the brilliance of Stalin.
It's like, no, you were right.
Just not in the way you expected it to be.
Likewise, if you're a student who has grievances with your institution because it's not living up to its values, you are not necessarily wrong. You are right. There is a contradiction at the heart of liberalism, but you're just not right in the way you might
expect you are. You're right because liberalism itself is going to be destroyed.
So you were right.
It's just that you were right in a way that may,
that you may not like, right?
But if you're a Marxist,
you precisely recognize in that inadvertence, the ground
of objectivity and truth
and meaningfulness
and confidence
in your outlook and your belief.
So,
that's really what I'm kind of trying to get to here.
And, you know, anyway, to continue i think that i think that why why is so what so what so how would that
manifest for the students i mean, we are not trying to lead a student movement, but our movement is going to have cadres, a cadre masses distinction, right? Now, it's true that we live in an era where cadres can also be workers
themselves. That is a description that fits many of you who are actually blue-collar workers.
It's one of the things I'm the proud of most about infrared.
But understand many of these students are in debt.
They're in debt.
Students are a reactionary force when they assert their specific class interest as students in contradistinction to the rest of the masses.
But students who are indebted and uncertain of their future and open to that future, there's also room for participation in a revolutionary phenomenon. Of course there is. Many blue-collar young people are students who had student debt that they couldn't pay off through their degree. So what did they do? They went to trade school and they're trying to work real jobs. This is an example of how the declassing of a petty bourgeois student leads to a kind of proletarian position, proletarian subject.
No, we're not taking in the fucking interpretive
dancers. Are you just trolling me, dude?
Are you just trolling me?
Just completely neglecting everything I'm saying
like why is there an instinct by bad faith action
not necessarily saying you that
but like take the most extreme
conclusion possible of what I'm saying
in the most bad faith possible way
you know if you haven't if you don't understand I'm saying in the most bad faith possible way.
You know, if you haven't, if you, if you don't understand this by now, I'm not an extremist.
So when I say something, it's the Stalin is golden mean. It's not the most ridiculous wacky conclusion possible.
Like, yeah, anyway.
Yeah, Hassan, exactly.
Or they joined the military. You're right.
Anyway, um, no, to continue what i'm talking about
yeah go ahead and give me a hundred push-ups anyway uh a communist is someone who completely and fully selflessly devotes themselves to the cause of the masses
not on behalf of any immediate personal private self-interest at all so when you become a communist
you are sac your self-interest for something bigger than just you.
That's what being a communist means.
Your self-interest eventually becomes synonymous with fulfilling the interests of the proletariat and of the cause of communism in the last final and ultimate sense.
On the other hand, student movements are based in a kind of at least a veneer of selflessness students are camping not because of any immediate self-interest because they are so moral and so noble that they are willing to sacrifice for the Palestinians.
Now, on the one hand, you can be cynical about that and say, actually, this disguises some kind of self-interest, a class interest. And that can be true for a lot of cases.
But in a minority of cases, and that's what we care about,
maybe these are just selfless people.
Maybe these are exactly the kind of people that would become communist.
In which case case something interesting
may be going on on a hegelian level which is what i'm fascinated by and interested in is like
you know the the first the the way in which the selflessness of the intelligentsia and the interest of the masses converges is when that selflessness identifies itself with the concrete interests, concrete social interests of the masses.
And thus they kind of interpenetrate in the dialectical sense and basically there's a process of mutual recognition that takes place where the workers recognize in the selflessness of the communist, their own concrete self-interest and vice versa.
This is how the Hegelian predicament of the beautiful soul, moralistic, woke moralist, is avoided.
Selflessness becomes united with some concrete... woke moralist is avoided.
Selflessness becomes united with some
concrete interest.
Not the concrete interest of an individual,
but the concrete interest
of a world historical phenomena.
This is what Kojevin Hegel in a misguided way try to identify in their recognition between the philosopher and the tyrant, right? It's the same thing.
But... the same thing but uh but this otherness which eventually becomes
recognized reconciled as a higher form of the self right sublated as a higher form of the self, right?
Sublated as a higher form of the self.
The otherness first takes the form of a radically alien, radically foreign, and ulterior being.
So in my naive optimism, what if, for many of these campus protesters,
what if the same kind of selfless solidarity they expressed for the Palestinians,
they can eventually, Palestinians, they can eventually express for the American working masses, in which case the basis of their moral position is given something concrete, and the two synergize and unite, and these students become selfless political cadres, going down to the people, synthesizing and creating a vehicle, a movement, where the most lofty
aims of the moral subject are united with the concrete actuality of its existence. This is the stuff of communism.
It's always the unity of these two elements, the cadre and the masses. That is precisely how you build
an infrastructure contrary to the ruling class hegemony. Ploppy. Ploppy, you're fucking retard.
Hope that helps.
If you want to get in VC, go ahead.
Anyway,
what I'm trying to say, guys, is that here's what I'm trying to say.
In the same way that a lot of these like woke, libtard, disgusting, demonic, student leftists have a bad faith interpretation of infrared.
And because they personally believe, you know, that if they adopted what we believe is true, they would become Hitler rights, that they accuse us of being the worst possible thing, Nazis, whatever.
We shouldn't have a bad faith view of all of the protesters or all liberals even. Some of those hippie liberal libtards became jimmy door
and uh what's that guy's name russell guy who dated katie per, what's his name?
forgot his name.
Those became Jimmy Door viewers.
And they became anti-vaxers and like super-based.
Russell Brand.
You know? And it's like
it's the same thing
with these kind of like campus protesters
like yeah sure
we need to kind of
overlook the cringe
and not have
a priori bad faith
toward them let's not a priorii bad faith toward them.
Let's not a priori have bad faith toward all of them.
Now, let's harbor no illusions.
I think the majority of them will always be hostile to us, no matter what.
So don't fucking take these words and interpret them to go, um, you know, start like pandering
and making posts like, oh, I love the students.
Like, that's not what I'm telling you to do.
I'm just saying it's worth more for us to just
maintain the integrity of our position and not write everyone else off you know let's just maintain
our position if we don't like what the student protesters are
doing or we have critiques of them that's immaterial because what are we doing in their stead
you know like what let's just do let's just make our critiques positive by actually doing what we want to do that we don't think they're doing.
Let's just do what we want to do instead.
Let's just do it right instead of focusing on how everyone else is doing it wrong.
Let's just do it right ourselves, right? That's what I'm trying to say. Like, if we think they're doing it wrong, let's do it right ourselves, let's maintain the
integrity of our position, and not get caught up in false dialectics.
Let's not get caught up in this false thing where we're going to go ahead and go out of our way to antagonize the students at Columbia
and join in with the right-wing
Zionists and calling them
a bunch of transgender, retarded,
blue hair, spoiled
idiots and like make
fun of them and shit, you know?
Because as tempting as that is,
especially because of how maligned we have been by them and how much they've attacked us, it would be better to just maintain the integrity of our own position. And then you know what? A few of them who are decent might look at what we're doing and being like, you know what?
What they're doing works better than what we're doing.
And, you know, I want to go join those guys and learn from them.
Whereas if you start going out of your way to antagonize all of them and write all of them off, you know, people who might otherwise be open to what we're doing, they might identify us with the same Zionist enemy that, you know, that they're protesting against right now.
I choose to believe on the basis of my Islamic faith.
I don't like to invoke that a lot.
But I choose to believe that there is an irreducible...
Okay.
Warlord, thank you.
Many of us in the chat were left to...
I agree.
Thank you so much for the five.
What's up, Johnny?
Thank you, man.
I choose to believe that cutting across all of the cringe, there is an erud...
This is what I believe as a humanist.
I believe there is an irreducible kernel of human solidarity, which you cannot attribute to an immediate self-interest.
I reject Venetian cynicism. I reject that idiot Christopher Lash and says it's all a culture of narcissism.
What he gets wrong is that, like, it can turn into that.
I agree.
Oftentimes, that is what it becomes.
But it only becomes that because it's distorting something that is authentic and is real.
If you're a student and you're just like, okay, you could be bourgeois, it doesn't matter.
You can come from a bourgeois background.
But if you're genuinely interested in trying to understand the world and make sense of it, there's an irreducible humanness which makes it possible
that you can arrive at the correct position on the basis of an integrity on the basis of an honor
like we do have a shared humanity as a people, right? I do fundamentally believe that.
And if I didn't believe that, I mean, I didn't come from a proletarian background. Jackson didn't
come from a proletarian background. Carl Marx didn't. Frederick
Engels didn't. Lenin didn't. I'm not sure if Mao did. You know, very rarely do Marxists actually come from that background.
Che Guevara did not, you know.
But that's really not the point.
That's not the point.
You know, a lot of idiots try to do the same
shit against me
they'll be like
you know freaking streamers man
freaking streamers as if I represent
the interests of streamers in any capacity
like yeah that's totally me
my message is about
reproducing the class
position of streamers.
Totally.
That's totally my position.
That's why the major streaming
websites completely ban
and deplatform me.
Because I'm just like Pokemon.
I'm literally the face of streaming, guys.
I represent the interest of streamers.
Like, get the fuck out of here.
Okay, it's such a joke.
Yeah, not Hassan Pike or me.
I'm the one who represents the immediate self-interest of streamers.
Not Hassan Piker, who lives in a $3 million mansion, and who tells people and whose actual message to people is that leftism is about losing
not a paraphrase
ad verbatim quoting him
that it's actually about losing and failing
all the time and just being depressed
that's me
I'm the one you should be cynical about
and reductivist about, right?
But anyway, you know, it goes back to something that I like about Heidegarian etymological kind of analysis, right?
Where, like, in order to understand the meaning of a word, let's actually trace it to the origins
of how that word came to be, the etymology.
And that will get the deeper truth of what the word means, right?
Anyway, you also, not many people think all these kind of
Nietzsche and Marxists
quote unquote
Nietzsche and Marxists
who try to make it seem like
classes are different
animal species
and that their contrary
interests are like the same thing as like
you know this is we know, we do not share any humanity.
That's meaning, it's nonsense, right?
The kind of Nietzschean nonsense of like just proletarian, this is like what fascism came out of, by the way, because they just then translated to racialism.
They're like, the class interest of the proletariat is, it may as well be the interest of a totally different species.
That's how Trotsky view in and stuff.
And it's like, it couldn't be further from the mark because the proletariat was always a
minority of society.
And their purports of Marxists is that the leadership of the proletariat would be good for
the whole people, including the majority who are peasants and not proletarians, right?
So it's a partisan position within the battlefield of the whole people, right? It's always been about that.
But anyway, no, no, no. What I'm trying to say is that look at the etymology of proletariat. Proletariat, even in terms of the significance of that term, has always been in reference to some fundamental concrete human interest in general.
The etymology of proletariat, the prol means offspring. So, Morlock is the one who reminded me of this today.
Prole means offspring. The proletarians were those in ancient Rome
who had nothing who didn't own anything, except their capacity and ability to reproduce
and produce offspring. So a general and fundamental quality of just pure human subsistence and
reproduction was itself categorized as a specific class, right?
Like, I am not classified according to a specialization within the division of labor in particular.
I'm just a human being that can reproduce and subsist, and I'm defined by that. And, you know, a eugenicist kind of Malthusian would be like,
you know, these trolls don't contribute anything.
They just subsist and reproduce.
And what do they contribute?
They don't have any property to contribute.
But it's like they're missing.
The proletarian outlook is, it's almost like, you know, the real binary is between
proletarian humanism and
bourgeois malfugianism, to be honest.
Because it's like, it's a totally different
understanding. The
proletarian understanding is that
humanity,
human existence does not need to be justified by something else, right?
Like, yes, it is enough that the interest and the commonwealth of the whole people is attended to. We are the subject of history. We are the subject of existence, right? Whereas the bourgeois outlook is like,
okay, I'm a private interest, and I have a specific conceit about what humanity should be.
And if you don't fulfill that conceit, you know, you have no value and you have no worth.
And why that's wrong isn't just because we're
humanitarians who believe, oh, all human life is sacred for its own sake.
It's not just that. It's also that like, that conceit has no skin in the game.
Where is it being proven? You have this conceit about what must be done, but why? What makes yours correct? How do you prove that it's correct? Before whom do you prove that it's correct or how can you have certainty about it?
You don't have that certainty.
We are all equal
before our shared existential
horizon. No
segment of a population,
no individual can
abstract themselves, and
claim an exclusive relationship with the existential horizon of all of human history and humanity, because it's one that literally in the name we all share. Right? We all share that
existential horizon
you know who takes this
up
uh... mouthusian thinking to its farthest
was nick land actually
he had this crazy idea of like,
okay, what needs to happen is
we create a self-sustaining city
that totally walls itself off,
isolates itself from everyone,
neutralizes all life
outside of it
and then just goes on
to build a great AI
because most of humanity
according to him 80% of it
they're just leeches who contribute nothing
and I find it's
a funny
perspective that that's worthy
of responding to,
right?
Like 20%
of humanity needs to kill off 80%.
That was his view.
Because the 80% are contributing nothing at all.
And so why is he wrong?
Why isn't he correct that like, okay, the 80% aren't contributing a single thing and, you know, but here's the issue is that, I mean, there's many reasons why it's a false perspective.
For one, the number one thing that's accelerating the development of technology is the aggregation of these wildly diverse, um, multitudes of different desires and interests and data, right?
So if there is ever an enclosure of this process of the collection of data to the point
where it's fully complete and you just say, okay, just this 20% is all we care about
and then no one else matters.
The ability for the technological
advance of the
productive forces,
according to how it is doing that today,
such as AI,
would stall.
It wouldn't be able to advance, right?
So there is, it's kind of a lot of different issues with the view.
I'm not talking moral issues, even theoretical issues.
But I find it fascinating as a thought experiment to respond to because you know you could
just say oh that's so inhumane you can moralize about it but it's like at the end of the day
what's your response because the world is a cruel place and it may not care about your whining
and moral outrage right you know a cruel place and it may not care about your whining and
moral outrage, right?
You know, just like
a tsunami can come and kill all of us
and it won't care about us thinking
it's immoral, right?
So, so, uh, what
is false about that kind of view?
In closing a specific segment of humanity and then the rest can simply be disregarded in terms of their moral significance or their significance in general and so on.
And I think it's precisely how the border is defined.
It's always that Sir Wright's paradox.
It's always that problem of
vague predicates. How do
you define the
golden 20%?
Because it has
to cut off somewhere.
And the paradox is that when you cut it off exactly where you cut it off
will be the hill you die on
exactly where you cut
cly lincoln should know this because he's a delusian right
the difference upon which your identity is founded
is a difference which will continue to assert itself
and reproduce itself.
And schism, it will produce
continual schisms within the identity, right, on the same basis, to the point where it's a regression, what's the word, where it's an infinite regress, right? An infinite regress, which I think land would say is a good thing, but one that's not conducive to the acceleration of the productive forces.
Obviously not.
The acceleration of the productive forces depends on the aggregation of vast territories and supply chains and resources and minerals and so on and so forth, in order to, and this is the most important thing uh fulfill the needs of infinitely many
different kind of disparate desires wants needs uh goals and so on and so forth so my issue with him isn't necessarily like, okay, 20% is too low, we should just do 75%.
It's not necessarily that.
It's any time you try to reduce humanity to a discreet or definite portion of humanity whose beginning and
whose end is fully known with absolute formal certainty, you fail. That's always a failure it's always an impossibility
actually that's my issue my issue is you can the line you think you're making is impossible to make
actually moreover you can also have is impossible to make, actually.
Moreover, you can also have a kind of Heidegarian, obvious Heidegarian critique,
which is that it's not that the 80% are
unproductive necessarily,
it's that you are unable to reduce their existence to a utility.
But every utilizes is there is, sorry, utilitarization
utilitarian
is that the correct way
to say it of
human existence
presupposes an
irreducible
existential ground
which itself cannot
be the subject
of a utilitarian
reduced to a kind of utilitarian
function.
So basically it's like
yes, the Roman proletariat which is just producing children and no property
it may seem like they're just a burden on the state but without them there's no property
owners in the first place they provide a kind of irreducible, um,
civilizational and existential ground that property itself, the logic of property is derivative from,
and which presupposes as its foundation.
Before we can have property, which is the estrangement of human labor, according to Marx,
we need an irreducible existence of laboring human beings
just attending to their reproduction
and subsistence, right?
You can't just get rid of them
and then be contended with the property that you have
because your property rests upon that irreducible foundation and depends upon that foundation pre-existing its its conversion into a form of property, right? like the roman proletariat is the subject of roman civilization and civil society and the aims in existence
of the state yes of course it's just people living reproducing their existence and attending to
their existence right that to their existence, right?
That, of course,
is what it is.
The ownership
of property
is predicated
upon having a
specific
position in
relationship to
that,
which estranges it into a specific and reduces it into a specific form.
My response to Landianism has always been a kind of Xi Jinping
materialist populism.
There is a wisdom of the people.
It's like, I'm not an idiot. I know that the majority
of people are fucking stupid. like I'm not an idiot. I know that the majority of people are fucking stupid.
Majority of people are idiots. I don't deny that. You think I deny that?
Majority of people are just picking their ass and picking their nose and just farting around and being stupid. But they are an irreducible,
ontological ground
that pre-existence any form of individual intelligence.
The masses collectively form into something that is irreducible to their individual stupidity.
You don't have to be a smart person
to have brilliant fucking dreams.
You don't have to be an intelligent person to have profound dreams.
You don't need to be an intelligent person to be a part of an intelligent historical existence.
Sorry, a historical existence that could only be appreciated from the perspective of an intelligence, I should rather say.
I think that's really the kind of message.
And you know, the inconvenient thing about the student protest for us is that we look at the most noble, selfless communist warriors of history.
Lenin, Stalin, Che Guevara, Mao, you name it.
Marx himself.
People who selflessly devoted the whole of their existence,
the whole of their life to the cause of the proletariat.
And what's awkward and inconvenient for us is that when it comes to selfless,
um,
conscious intelligentsia leaders of society, there's a whole obscene in an obscene way there's an
whole industry that produces that now now everyone wants to be lenin it's so and almost to the
point where we're sitting here we're're not students, we look at the students, and we see them as an object, not a subject, we're the subject. We see the students as a kind of private, see students are supposed to represent, the intellectuals, they're supposed to
represent like what Lenin did or whatever,
like the highest form of
subjectivity in relation to society,
right?
But we sit here with an even higher
form of subjectivity because
awkwardly, even there's a kind of ridiculous proletarian in the bad sense of the word the roman sense aspect of them where it's just this kind of obscene reproduction of their
existence and their position as students
is happening on an industrial
scale in a way that's
devoid of any kind of
that's not prefigured by any
kind of pure consciousness
right
so put it this way it's almost like by any kind of pure consciousness, right?
So put it this way.
It's almost like, it's literally, it's literally like this.
Like you are going to Star Wars at Disney World, and you want to be Luke Skywalker.
The only issue is that you're going there,
and everybody is fucking dressed up as Luke Skywalker,
and there's a whole industry of producing Luke Skywalker to the point where this is no longer the main character anymore.
It can't be.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, how can this be the main character?
It's literally like the real hero of Star Wars is looking above
on a mountain somewhere being like
yikes
but
that heroism cannot
be maintained
by being above it all it can only be maintained by being above it all.
It can only be maintained by owning up to and acknowledging this obscene proletarian aspect of the mass production of personalities.
See, Christopher Lash kind of people try to interpret this to mean that students are a class.
And they do act as an antisocial segment of society, but there is a way to have proletarian subjectivity as a student and there is a way to do that right if you're or if
you're coming from a student background i should say there is a way to have proletarian
subjectivity.
Where you do break out of the bounds of the culture of narcissism, and you basically kind of,
no longer try, you're no longer trying to be luke skywalker anymore you're directly identifying with your mundane ordinary existence in a sense in the form of uh the realletariat, the work, the industrial working class.
Instead of trying to identify with Luke Skywalker, you're identifying with the sand people or some shit.
I don't know.
Maybe that's not a good analogy.
You're identifying with like a mass subject subjectivity.
It's no longer narcissism anymore, right?
It's the
concrete interest of the proletarian
masses. And then your
personality becomes downstream from
that. And then if you're lucky
and if you're worthy, you will be Lenin,
or you will be Che Guevara.
Based on your work, based on what you do, based on what you contribute, not what you try to be when you look in the mirror.
We are the empire. i agree fuck star wars i totally agree um i just i just kind of the reason i'm a little sympathetic i'm not i the reason i'm so fascinated is like i feel like uh there's something
so interesting about like this orient i like the orientalism of the palestinian protests i like the orientalism i like the dune to
orientalism of it i like this kind of islamicate new form of islam Islamicate narodism, maybe.
Maybe it can turn into an Islamicate narodism
where a new type of Malcolm X subjectivity can form
and the students can go down to the countryside and start organizing the working people because you know what it cuts both ways the goal of the communist movement, the proletarian movement, is not simply to eliminate the distinction between, you know, selfless intelligentsia and the actual masses concerned with their immediate self-interest.
It's to narrow the distinction to the absolute point zero minimum.
At the end of the Cultural Revolution in China,
the Red Guards stopped just being people in the cities.
Suddenly, these impromptu schools that were forming and rule China in the most remote regions,
directly people, the sons and daughters of peasants, would set up these schools, and that would be the Red Guards.
Eventually, we will have students, we will have the students from the technical colleges and the community colleges and the colleges out in the boonies and the people that work at the city council and that work for maybe the local government or something.
We will have those kinds of
people leading
the movement.
Instead of an ivory tower
in Colombia, right?
That's what the goal is always about it's always about narrowing the distinction you know
Jackson is calling
does he not know I'm live let me call Jackson is calling.
Does he not know I'm live?
Let me call him.
Yo, Jackson.
Okay. I'm gonna call him You know, let me ask so that guy is not going to come to debate me but uh i want jackson to come to talk about the event
i'm going to give him two seconds five four three two one it's two, one. It's not happening. Wait, oh, it's not happening. It's happening now.
Yo!
It's happening now.
Yo, I'm live.
One second.
Yo, listen. Are you live? One second Yo listen
Are you live?
One second
You hear me?
Yeah
Yeah
Yeah
I can hear you
I can hear you
Yeah we're going to end the stream soon
But I want to bring you on
Talk about the event Right Yeah, we're going to end the stream soon, but I want to bring you on.
Talk about the event, right?
One second.
You don't need your video.
Okay.
All right.
Yo, hello?
Yo.
All right. So, uh... Oh, it's working now. Yeah now yeah yeah i could see it
do you want to be put on sure all right so um jackson this is so nobody here knows you, so I'll introduce them. But, uh, guys, this is Jackson. He's just this random guy we're doing the, um, the Dearborn event with
and hold on
give me a damn second
this is ridiculous
here we go
and
I'm not Jackson Inkel bro yeah i don't know there's this guy's kind of weird because he tried
to say that cape the much more famous uh charming and much more successful caleb mopp and
was jackson hinkle basically trying to co-opt his identity and success for himself.
Why did you do that, by the way? Couldn't you just stay in your own lane?
Why did you try to take credit for Caleb Maopin's accomplishments by accusing him of being you?
You checked my telegram?
Yeah, I did.
I did.
So, what do you think about going?
No, I'm not going to ask about this.
What do you think about going to, going to have an event
in Portland, Oregon.
Uh,
uh,
uh, I don't, I mean, I don't know about that.
What do you mean? You don't know?
I don't know about that, bro.
Why?
It's the best place to do it.
Look, I'm not into fat chicks like you.
Oh, okay.
You know, here's the thing.
You know, they did a study that says, if your taste in women, is they're too skinny?
You're actually retarded on a mental level?
I'm not into the fat Starbucks barista workers.
You know what?
This is literally an NPC conversation out of oblivion.
Listen, here's the thing.
Our event is going to be in one month
and how many tickets have we sold?
Half, over half?
Don't give the exact.
Just over half, right?
Over half.
Yeah.
So, once if you're coming to that, by the way,
ones if you're already registered to that, you're coming.
Charmhorn is...
Is he actually coming? Can you check?
I don't know what his actual name is.
That's a little, yeah, that's, that's a little worry.
I think I did see something where he said he's coming.
He's been saying he's coming.
I just don't know.
Like in the discord or something.
He says he wants to be, he wants to be security.
I'm saying he is what we need security for.
There's no way
in normal security
yeah
if anything
yo visidad what's up
Visigrad
what's up
No his name is
uh
Visited
but uh No, his name is Visited.
But this is the first event we're doing that... Well, if Charmoles the bouncer,
are events going to look like
Columbia University front lawn
that's great
that'd be great
so
you know
I think we're going to have pizzas at the event how much how much would it be it'd be like a few
hundred i'd pay for that pizzas you're such you're so generous hasan piker would never
yeah he wouldn't
So there might
There might actually be pizzas
That might be a thing
How much would we need?
Bro, the
Yeah, I mean
Oh bro the uh yeah i mean i mean we could uh we could get some pizzas we're also both yeah we can get some pizzas yeah we're also both yeah we're we can get some pizzas. Yeah.
We're also both... We can do some...
What do you call that?
We'll do some revolutionary blackout network, mutual aid, hand out the pizzas to everyone who comes.
I like that.
Well, yeah, it'll be activism.
But what do you think about?
So we're going...
Yo, Hamza, what's going on?
Jackson Al Hinkle with Osalvin.
So we're going...
By the way, why don't you wear a suit on stream anymore?
I'm the only one who does that?
Bro, I wore a suit on stream anymore I'm the only one who does that bro I wore a suit well no I didn't wear a suit because
I took my suits where did I just come back
from I don't
fucking know oh
Alex Jones I wanted my suits to look nice for that.
And then I don't want to wear my suits again because I don't have enough time to get them pressed before I go to.
Atlanta.
Let's not reveal the exact because, you know.
No, I'm not.
But I'm going to Atlanta, then Vegas, then Scottsdale,
and then L.A. And I have to wear suits
for all those things.
Yeah.
Yeah,
no, Atlanta is, uh,
is, are they known for like food, food, any kind of food?
Yo, Iron Rose, what's going on?
I think they got, like, Popeye's chicken there.
In fact, you know, my mom's from Atlanta.
No, there's another, so there's this place, this chicken place.
What is it called the famous southern chicken place?
It's only in the south.
There's only one in Michigan.
What is it called again?
It's like, uh, not Keynes, right?
Cains, yeah.
Oh, bro, we got canes in california canes is so lit
yeah i got i think i might try that in georgia
canes is so good bro
i thank god i didn't live next to canes
canes was like 30 minutes away from where I grew up or else I'd I've been dieting hardcore.
I'm going to, you know, when we, when I go to Georgia, I'm going to have some Cains.
Well, if I, if I live next to a Cains, I'd be looking like Compot.
Oh, man.
I don't know why he hates you.
I don't know what's his issue is.
He hates me too now.
I don't know.
What happened?
I don't understand it at all.
Straight,
no, straight up.
Like, what did we do?
Straight up. What did we do straight up what did we do i don't think i've ever said anything to him besides that snide comment i just made
uh maybe i have but i don't remember
i don't get what we did to that guy.
Like, what happened?
What is he,
what about us does he find so objectionable that he didn't back in 20?
He used to be cool with us in 2021.
Now he fucking hates us for no reason.
Why?
Did we, dude, you know what?
I was thinking about the other day.
It's like, you know, all these accusations of like, oh, we're LaRoucites because all
of our conspiracy theories?
We got that from Kantbott and those parapolitical people.
Kantbot was the fucking one
who put us on all that shit.
And now he's calling...
Now he's calling us LaRushites or whatever.
It's like, dude,
our views about like how America got hijacked
by the OSS.
I got that from you, dude.
I just realized that.
I was like, what the fuck?
I was so gaslit.
All the parapolitical people that are obsessed about
LaRouche, they are the ones
who introduced me to who LaRouche was.
I didn't fucking know who LaRouche was before I was on, like, cave Twitter, like, looking
at what all these parapolitical people were saying, kind of making him trendy and cool, like in an ironic way.
That's how I was introduced to LaRouche.
I didn't fucking know who he was before that.
Now, they're like, oh, there's a LaRouche conspiracy with Haas and Jackson.
Motherfucker, you are the conspiracy.
I literally got it from you.
The thing is, I tweeted this out,
and Zirka responded with some gay shit,
but I tweeted out, I said,
The rabbit will always hate the fox.
And that's honestly just the truth about us.
Because, like, I was live streaming today.
And pizza fun, thank you.
Thank you so much, anonymous.
What's up?
I was live streaming today.
And I was live streaming today, and I...
This is so fucking annoying.
Holy shit.
Your internet do that a lot?
No. All right, we're back.
The compot.
Compot deep state got us.
Yeah, I don't know what that guy's
problem is. I don't know what I did to him.
I don't know, but I was saying, and so they were
spamming their donation links and i'm like i honestly
like i obviously spam my don't know links a lot when i got banned from youtube but that was
because i got banned from youtube but i'm like how come no one else gets attacked for spamming their
don't know links like just me and i haven't even
done it in a while and like new york times attacked me for it it's like i literally had to buy a
five dollar newspaper to read the hit piece against me you know and they're they're beefing me
because i have a three3 a month subscription.
It's like the rabbit will always hate the fox.
You're calling you a fucking grifter, but this is what you do for a living.
If you didn't fucking need to get paid for it, then you would be part of the ruling class
and not have to make money
because you already fucking have a ton, right?
Grifting would be going out, like,
grifting would be going out like Hassan Piker
and saying there's a genocide in China.
Yeah, grifting would be like Hassan who's scared, who is scared to criticize AOC because she boosted his fucking streams when she came on.
That's fucking drifting.
Jesus Christ.
It's like, yeah, you, so you make enough money
to continue what you're doing
that makes you over,
dude,
people think you make like millions of dollars.
Did you know that?
Yeah,
I saw that.
People actually,
it would actually be hilarious
if anyone saw my bank account.
They don't know we're broke, dude.
Remember Moscow?
I'm like the brokeest multi-million followed person on the internet, I think.
They don't know that we're both broke, especially you.
They may believe I'm broke. They don't know that you're broke broke, especially you. They may believe I'm broke.
They don't know that you're broke.
They literally don't.
They actually broke.
They, uh, they, you know, uh, and they also say I have like a trust fund, which help me find it, please.
Yeah, bro.
If I, if I was rich, you'd know.
You would know if I was rich.
Because like like you know
you'd show off yeah
bro me and jackson
you don't understand when we have anything we show off
when i have a fucking tungsten necklace
that i bought for like fifty dollars i I showed that off, all right?
I was flexing with that bullshit, all right?
So anything...
Hosswell Post is like 10th pair of all black Air Force Ones on Instagram.
Yeah, we flex the dumbest shit we have.
It's all we have.
I definitely would not be driving a Lamborghini.
I would not be driving a...
What is John getting?
He texted me the other day.
He's buying like... A Lam yeah the uris is that the
i'd not drive that i'd have some like classy like old like james bond Porsche
Porsche like one of those old Porsches or something.
How are we grifters, but Hassan isn't?
What would, bro, imagine if you had Hassan's house in L.A.
Uh, and I don't even, I wouldn't even get that. I'd get some like biggest state in Michigan and have like hunting dogs like I'd be like British aristocracy and that shit
bro this is why people hate you because they they see you as the most like elitist guy
ever but they don't understand you're a broke
elitist. The actual elitist is
this is, see, Hassan pretends to
be humble, but he's fucking
millionaire. Jackson is
extremely elitist, but he's actually broke.
That's the ultimate paradox.
Bro, polo shirts are the ultimate elitist, like, fuck you shirt.
And I have so many, but they're not expensive.
Like a polo shirt is not expensive.
Yeah.
Bro, that is so real that is like a true proletarian
actually like tries to be as rich
as possible
only people only actual
fucking trust fund babies
like Hassan Piker
Yes to be like
Oh I just wearing like this tie-dye shirt
I'm like humble it's like shut the fuck up dude
Or like the ones where it's like it's a billionaire
But he dresses like he's homeless
Yeah exactly
Like that is some shit.
No, if I had money, I'd have a, I'd have a, I don't even have a car.
I don't even own a car.
I don't, like, I just like don't, I don't, I don't do that.
I literally don't, so, bro, if I had money,
I'd have, like, one of those things where I have
the hunting dogs with a big shotgun,
and I'd go, like, hunt for ducks, and I'd
have horses, and I'd have a big estate,
and I'd have, like, a nice old car,
collection of cars.
And... what else?
I mean, look,
look, clearly you're better off than most people.
But for how many followers you have
and how much clout you have,
you are nowhere
near the person
who has the same clout and followers
you have. Like somebody who
has your followers and your clout is an
actual fucking like trillionaire
millionaire. Why? Because it's all
thank you so much,
MIT.
It all fucking
comes down to
sponsorships.
Isn't that the truth?
Well,
I ran the numbers
with,
you know,
my friend Austin,
he was out in Miami.
He came out
and hung out with me
for a week.
I haven't seen him in a while and I ran the numbers if I was still on YouTube if I was still had all my sponsors which keep in mind I I have made nowhere near this amount of money my whole life but But if I had everything,
like I would be,
I would be set.
But every time I started to make a little money,
I'd get banned.
So like,
my finances are just fucked because of that.
See,
we, this is our curse.
We both got on the Deng Xiaoping shit where we were like, fuck it, let's make money.
Like, who cares?
Making money's fine.
By any and all means, stock market.
Barrio, what's up? I'm not just talking about. I don't have what's up I'm not
just talking about I don't have any stocks
I'm not just talking about collecting donos
like let's go full capitalists let's make
any kind of money we can
and we're totally fine with it ideologically
and only then
do we don't get shit dude we literally ideologically. And only then
do we,
we don't get shit,
dude.
We literally fail completely.
And meanwhile,
Hassan Piker has the opposite
messages us.
And he's a millionaire.
How fucking crazy you do that.
Not by our own doing.
It's because like, I get
clipped. Like, I get
banned and shit. Yeah,
we like literally,
literally Austin and I ran through the numbers, bro.
It was like 200,000 a month.
That's how fuck. If you weren't fucking banned from YouTube.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
If I had all my sponsorships, if I had my ad revenue, like I lost all my sponsorships.
I lost ad revenue for a year before I got banned.
Lost Patreon.
Lost Venmo, lost pay, like.
Bro.
People try to say that I'm...
We're probably making about the same...
We're close.
Like, we're close, actually.
People call me a streamer grifter.
But I have zero
sponsors. How am I a fucking
grifter without sponsors, you retarded
bitch? You think a grifter
just gets donos and no
sponsors? Spons? Guys,
Kai Sinanat all them people
they have like
100,000 subs
right
but most of their money
is from sponsors
did you know that
like Nike
I have no sponsors
you think anyone's going to sponsor me
no fucking way
no fucking way
yeah
like and you think about it sponsors are like
you being approved by corporations
so Hassan I'm not approved by any corporations.
I'm only
approved by
Australia
Stanley,
Iron Rose,
M.
IG,
Burrio,
Visid,
and Red
Saffron and
Crask.
Those are the
only people
that approve me.
That's the thing that pisses me off.
It's like, well, if everyone's accusing me of being like a millionaire
or having hundreds of thousands of dollars, at least,
it's like I should at least have that or like close to it, but like...
No, my favorite part is when they say that we get paid by Russia and China.
We don't get anything.
They don't pay us a damn thing.
It's... It's, uh,
honestly, you know.
Dude, what a tragic existence we live.
I don't want to offend our good friends in Russia,
but like all the work we've done for Russia.
It's all free. It's all free.
It's all free.
We should not only,
we should not only have a lot of money.
We should have like a harem of women
gifted to us. Oh my God.
Dude.
We live a very tragic existence.
We're the most lied about ever.
Everyone thinks that we're super rich
and we're getting paid by all these governments.
And that like, the truth is,
we're literally telling the truth,
completely lied about,
fucking broke.
We don't get paid by any
government.
We work really hard just to get
recognized by them.
And we're literally just going on day
and day out for this message.
What the fuck?
Where, bro, where is...
You think I'm above taking money from a fucking oligarch?
Oligarch or whatever?
That just means a billionaire.
Russian billionaire.
Send that fucking money my way.
What the fuck are you waiting for?
I'll take it.
You think I'm just saying this?
Because, oh, my principles,
no, I'm literally not getting shit.
I mean, I'm not going to change my message,
but I will happily
accept any and all money
from anywhere, as long as I have
to do anything in return for it.
You know what I mean?
Well, they would agree with you.
No, because they're like, oh,
Haas is pushing this message
that it's like, all right,
then let me get fucking paid for it.
You know?
Because I'm still going to push it either way.
Yeah.
No, I'm saying
like they would agree with, like, Russian oligarchs would agree with your politics, 100%.
I just think Haas, with a small loan of a million dollars could do great things. That's all I'm saying.
That's all I'm saying.
Here's the truth of the matter. You look at my Twitter account, X for now. We'll see how long it lasts. But for now,
meritocracy is reigning supreme
and it's like
one of the most followed Twitter accounts now
I literally have a list of all the schmucks
from like CBS and Fox News
and CNN that I passed and following
and it's like we did that all
on our own and then imagine if we actually had financial
backing and we weren't banned everywhere, how much we would achieve. It would be limitless.
Bro, here's the thing. Autism is, autists are literally holding the world hostage and they're like terrorists.
Like, just a net negative completely.
And you want to go to Portland?
Wait, wait, wait, no, let me finish.
Like, usually autism is just like a crisis, know thank you so much anonymous from me yo security
worker at a hospital exactly what's up anonymous shadow funding from the hazmat guy um so on autists are
holding the world hostage, etc., etc.
But the one example of an...
The only time autism is saving us is Elon Musk.
Elon Musk's autism is the only reason we're platformed, because he's like free speech, you know?
Like, he's just doing that
without any regard for the consequences
just like when he did that
shit where he was like I'm going to do the Tesla stock
at like 420 69
like he just does shit like that as like
an example of his autism and that's why we're successful.
So thank the autism.
Thank the autism virus for Elon Musk allowing us to be on X.
Because if Elon Musk was not autistic,
if he was just like a Normie,
we would be fucking banned.
Yeah, we'd be banned everywhere.
Normies have nuance.
Normies are like, well, yeah,
I kind of see what you're saying.
Autists are like, no, we're doing free speech regardless.
Yeah.
The only thank you for the vaccines for giving us Elon Musk.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, it's true it's true uh yeah
uh do you think we should live stream at Atlanta and do IRLs?
I mean, I'm not going to say anything right now, but given the guest and who's going to be talking with it?
No, no, for the Friday and Saturday.
Oh, I mean, you can. I'm not.
No, like, I live stream it and you can be in it.
Oh, yeah, we'll get like Adriana Lee out there. It'll be fun.
Bro, don't even mention that. Oh, my God.
That bitch is nasty, bro.
No, I mean like, yeah, we could do that. That'd be fun.
I know no one.
Yeah, we're gonna, guys, we're gonna, I don't know anybody either.
We're gonna be out in Atlanta.
Uh, and you're going to see why Sunday.
But if you're in Atlanta, hit us up, especially if you're a Fed and you're going to, like, you know, do some. do fed feds are always like they'll message you and they'll be like
yo haze yo haze i'm also going to be here i'm selling this uh ar 15 from my back of my trunk and it's got this switch on it.
It goes fully automatic, you know.
It's totally what the feds are scared of.
It's totally how we take down AOC, you know.
Come by and pick it up. Be totally legit. It's totally how we take down AOC, you know.
Come by and pick it up.
Be totally legit.
And I'm like, oh, yeah.
What do they think I'm going to respond with?
You know?
I felt bad because there were all these Iranians emailing me and messaging me like a ton of them
last...
You're backed by a car
salesman in Seattle.
Travali!
The car salesman.
What's up?
It's proof of my
support among the
petite bourgeoisie.
Anyway, go ahead.
There was like
all these Iranians
emailing me and messaging me and saying like, Mr. Hinkle, this is a message from Iranian Supreme Leader.
That was me before. Hasmat security is nuts.
What's up, Red Demos? Sorry, continue.
They're like, this is a message from
Iranian Supreme Leader to the Youth of
the West. It's a letter he wrote.
I got that too.
Yeah, and like,
I looked it up and he actually did write
a letter to the, what, the
youth of the West like in
2015 or something and it got
a resurgence online this month
but they were like click this
link to view the letter and I'm like
I'm not clicking no links yeah
I'm not I never click any links
um anyway um did you see that Yeah, I'm not I never click any Winks Um Anyway
Um
Did you see that shit on TikTok of that
Um
That one like troll streamer who's like
He was like he's like playing for it and he's like
I bet you nobody here can like, calculate, uh, five times a thousand.
Bro, you watch way too much TikTok.
Just finish the book.
Finish the book.
No, so I'm taking a shit.
When I take a shit, I scroll TikTok.
No way you take that many shit.
I do, actually, I do.
Anyway, he's like, he's like...
I get like 10 TikToks from Haza Day.
He got like 5.
Anyway...
I got like 10, bro.
Bro, bro, listen.
And then he's like, he's like,
chat, if you're new to the stream,
Calc stands for Calculator.
It's just short.
And he's like, he's like constantly being like,
if you just join the stream,
Calc is short for calculator.
It's just slang.
I don't know, dude.
I can't get over this.
It's TikTok's like 70% of them, like, they're all random, but like 70% of them aren't even funny.
No, they're all great.
No, bro.
It's like some of its boomer humor.
Like what?
Like the,
like, like, like the Kanye one, the cringy promposal one.
That one was fucking hilarious. What are you talking about wait which Kanye one
uh his apology tour
i'm not talking about that one but uh okay i... Okay, I got five TikToks from Oz yesterday.
Yeah, I told you was five.
No, bro, you don't even know about the TikTok Riz party
with Turkish Kwan Dale Dingle.
Oh my God,
they're getting rid of Tickr.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
What's going on with Kanye with that porn site?
What is he doing?
I hope it's some meme.
I hope it's all like a joke.
Why is he calling it easy porn? What does that even mean?
Bro, did you see his post he just made?
Yeah, where it's like a woman announcing it.
Did you see the one where he said, it's like,
I don't even know how to pronounce this word,
but he said it's like a Bukak box
or Bukake box or something
he's sending out?
He's losing his mind, dude.
I don't know what to say.
Well, if that shit's real,
if that shit is real and not some, like, sick joke,
bro, he needs to talk to Norm Finkelstein about gooning and fascism or something
Now Norm was so correct about that
The gooning shit
Where he's like, it's a form of fascism
That was so... How did he know that?
Because like He doesn't know that that's actually like what these extremist neo nazi subcultures are about yo jb what's up he was so on point it's
crazy bro on that same vein,
I've only seen this because that
Sonny Fawz kid keeps posting
them and I follow him.
I've never hung out with him, but like, he keeps
posting Destiny's leaked DMs.
Did you see the new one?
I did actually.
I'm not proud of reading that, but I did.
Bro, that shit is...
Yeah, I almost didn't read it.
And then I read it.
And I'm like, God, I wish I hadn't read that.
Yeah, my reaction is like, why am I reading this?
Like, what, why, I feel like I shouldn't even be here, you know?
Oh.
Yeah. Yeah. uh oh yeah but anyway we're gonna anything else about the event before we sign off in the stream um um uh uh i Um Um Uh
Uh
Uh The vegan debate guy's gone
Right
Yeah
You're gonna debate a vegan
Yeah but he leaves the server every night
I think he's a troll
anyway go ahead
no I mean I don't think that there's
I don't know
it's gonna be lit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean,
we've sold more than,
we've sold more than half the tickets,
but there's still more.
So if you guys are in Dearborn,
like,
you know,
tell your grandpa, bro, grandpas love me.
Grandmas and grandpas love me.
Tell them that, you know, I'll be there.
Tell them the crews.
We have pizza.
I'll go as far as say if you want to you, um, want to protest us. Papa John's pizza. If you, if you, um, want to debate us in person, right? Do you agree?
If you want to come or call us out for whatever come you have to buy a ticket but yeah
stand up we'll give you the mic and you can say whatever you want to us right yeah i mean i i i don't as long as they don't like interrupt shit
no yeah yeah like we'll have a section we're like all right
you want to bring up um
that you think we're disingenuous and you want to in front of the Dearborn Michigan Muslim crowd talk about how you find us.
Let's get me call, council member McCall from Bonty.
I invite Councilman McCall to come and air out his grievances with myself or Jackson in front of the Muslim Dearborn Michigan crowd and explain why we are evil, evil Nazis because we have conservative social views, which Dearborn Muslims are famous for not having at all,
especially older people.
Please call us fascists and see...
I'm not even going to spoil it, right?
I'm not going to spoil it.
You know what's crazy?
Yeah.
He was like, we can't allow Hinkle to come to Michigan.
It's like, I'm literally named after Jackson, Michigan.
My grandfather was buried in Jackson, Michigan. Probably 90% of my extended family lives in Michigan because, you know, my grandfather was one of 14 kids in Michigan. Like my family goes way deeper in Michigan
than I guarantee McCall's family
goes. It's like, how
could you say that? How could you say that?
The worst thing is that
he didn't even just say like
the city. He said all of Michigan.
What the fuck? Who says
that? Well, I've watched every
single Michigan Ohio State game
since before I could walk. Like, I'm
Michigan. I'm, my
blood bleeds blue.
I'm pro, I'm, I'm as pro
Michigan as you can get.
Fuck Ohio State.
How is,
yeah,
how is Jackson not,
uh,
you guys actually think Jackson's like a California guy?
He's actually a Michigan guy.
Look at him.
Why do you think we're friends?
No, I mean, uh, why do you think we're friends no i mean i i've only been to michigan like i think like twice though so that is fair i've like
not spent a lot of time there but i'm talking about like the the race racial no no no there's different races based on states
i'm serious like probably i've got probably like hundreds of family members in michigan um most of
whom i don't know.
But I know a bunch in Michigan.
But the thing is, it's like, I think I've told you this. Like, I don't want to, I, you know, I lived in LA.
I live in Miami now.
Like, I definitely don't want to live in a major city when I get like a house when I have my when I have my uh
Hassan Piker millions and I buy my estate so Michigan is probably I've got family in Michigan
family in Minnesota
like I like it there a lot
like getting a house on the lake where you can do some
duck hunting you can do some fishing
you don't like fishing right
I don't dislike it I just
have rarely done it.
I love fishing. Austin doesn't like fishing. I love fishing.
And like ever since I was little, I just remember hearing sort. Because like my grandpa had a
cigarette boat and they'd take it to mackin all the time and do like
summer trips at mack and all they go fishing all the time it's like that honestly is that's pretty
ideal i think if you move to mich Michigan or something and
started like
just like doing all that kind of stuff
like hunting or whatever
people would like hate you less probably
even like your haters
they would just make it harder
to hate you.
Yeah, I don't, like, no one in my family did hunting, really.
Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying.
I would like to hunt.
Yeah, same.
Hogs. Hogs.
Hogs are demonic evil creatures.
I don't fucking...
I don't like dogs.
You know, it's crazy, bro?
Yeah.
So,
my dad,
he doesn't hunt or anything.
Like,
he played basketball.
He played basketball in Michiganigan and like uh louisville
and like places like that but he wherever he lives like he grows this utter distaste for like whatever
wildlife is in the area and so like when we lived in
california there was like a pigeon problem uh at the at the we lived in like a condo when i was
growing up so like he would like buy airsoft guns and shoot at the pigeons from like our balcony the pigeons and then now he lives in uh now you know they live in arizona
and what's that tarantulas uh Arizona, they get, my, my mom does, like, gardening and stuff, and, like, so she'll be
gardening and there'll be, like, rattlesnakes.
And, like, there were snakes in California, but they, they wouldn't be, like, on like on our like we lived in a condo.
So like they wouldn't be like in our home, but like she'll be like got rattlesnakes.
When I was there, I saw, you know, you know the snoring desert toad.
It makes like the 5MEO DMT.
You know what those are?
DMT's a drug, right?
Yeah, but the, you know what?
It snoring desert, it secretes the...
Oh, the shit that hippies lick.
Yeah.
Yeah, so I went outside and my mom thought it was a snake.
She thought it was a rattlesnake when she was doing the gardening.
And she's like, she screams.
I'm like, what the?
I was waking up.
I'm like, what the fuck is happening?
I go outside and she's like, there's a snake in there
and I get close and I'm like trying to uncover it.
It was a sonoran desert
toad, no cap, like this big.
It was crazy. And then
there's also two last things,
scorpions everywhere.
So like my mom likes to put out like decorations for Halloween and Christmas.
And like you have to let it like sit in the garage for like a while because there's there'll be like scorpions on it when they bring
the pumpkin like the fake pumpkins back in or something and then the craziest one oh no there's
also a bunch of coyotes i mean we had coyotes in california too but they're like they live like near a riverbed that's dried up. So they always go there and you hear them at night. But the craziest one are, uh, your chat's going to know what this is. But these things are insane. These things are insane. They're called, um,
they're like wild boars, but they're like desert boars. Uh, I,
but they travel at like 45 miles
an hour. They're super fast.
Yeah.
And they'll what's going on, man.
They'll eat dogs. Like, they'll eat dogs.
Like, they eat small dogs.
My parents have two big dogs, but like they'll eat small dogs.
Is it javelinas?
Havelina.
Havelina.
Okay.
They, bro, they're, if you look up videos of Havelina's running, they go like 45 miles an hour and they're these big, uh, like, uh, boars, but like desert boars.
That's fucked. What are, bro?
You're running packs. Last thing, dude, did did you know did you know that pigs
were descended from corrupt humans
it's like
the Miyazaki movie
I'm not joking about this shit
pigs have way too many things in common with people physiologically.
And, you know, the holy books say that I don't, I don't remember this.
Like, you know, pigs are descended from sinful human beings i'm not even kidding
like what do they say anything you know how like um
you know how like pigs are what is it called hadam they're like yeah yeah and why supposed to... Yeah, yeah. And why are they so smart
for no reason? Why are they
so... They're the only animals that
will eat us. They're smart enough to, like,
say, oh, fuck it. I don't care. I'm going to eat them.
Bro, they're extremely smart, extremely
cruel. They eat people.
They're, like, demonic and fucked up and shit.
Bro, pigs eat people?
Yeah, if boars attack you,
they'll knock you down and start eating you.
Bro, have you seen the videos where like,
I don't even know where it is.
Like maybe like, um,
the Midwest or something where they go out
on like a giant like
range rover, a Jeep and they go out
with like a fully automatic gun at nighttime
and they just start like
like shooting all the boars
the reason hogs and boars are fucking scary
and they're so aggressive is imagine if there's like an angry
evil man running around the woods but they're four-legged
and they're hairy that's what a boar Like, imagine a serial killer in the woods,
just running around trying to kill people.
That's literally boars.
Like, people...
You actually convinced me that...
You convinced me, like, a few months ago to stop...
No, no, it was like a year ago.
You convinced me to stop eating pork. no. It was like a year ago. You convinced me to stop
eating pork. I don't fuck with pork.
Yeah, I don't eat that. And here's
the thing, dude.
And people are the scariest animal.
Everyone knows that, right? If you're in the woods and you see
a person and you don't know them and like they're
hostile, like it's weird right
pigs imagine
evil terrorists
but they're four-legged
and they're actually like a serial
killer in the woods like Hannibal Lecter
but they roam in packs
I think you just have something against animals though animal lector, but they roam in packs.
I think you just have something against animals, though, because you don't like dogs either.
No, I'm fine with dogs.
I don't like dog worshippers
who literally, like,
when they say that, I will
save a dog before an infant
it's literally demonic
nah you don't like dogs
bro I've I've seen you around dogs
yeah you're right I don't like them because I feel like they're dirty
like I don't like touching them because when they lick my hand, I immediately have to go wash my hands.
And I just-
Yeah, you're weird about hands and, uh, aren't you?
I find them to be stinky and God knows what shit they've been rolling in or whatever.
And I don't want to talk-
You guys, I'll be like eating a meal, right?
And like, yeah, wash your hands before the meal.
But like, when you're in the middle of eating a meal,
all bets are off for like how greasy or gross your hands get.
And awesome will just look at me bin beal
and he'll be like do you let your hands get like that
bro this dude this dude he'll have like uh
he'll have wings he'll get super dirty with his hands
chicken wings how else am i supposed to eat and he'll get super dirty with his hands. Chicken wings.
How else am I supposed to eat?
And he'll just, and then after,
this is the problem.
After his hands
are dirty, he'll just do this
and just walk out and just touch
his car. He won't
even clean him, bro.
This dude will walk around.
Bro,
that's nasty,
people like Jackson and Zirka,
what they'll do,
they'll have a slice of pizza.
They'll eat the pizza.
And with that same hand,
they'll take their phone
and start using their phone with their
sticky greasy pizza hands
who does that
you no no I'll like wipe it off
on my shirt or something that's fucked
that's gross
you got grease on your shirt
now? What the hell?
The thing
is though, like with dogs, with food,
you are like this,
you're like a Dr. Fauci
clean freak. Like
like, okay, when I sat down for the Alex
Jones interview, he got up like three
or four times to take a piss. We had to take
breaks. You get up that many times in a
meal to wash your hands. So like
Yeah. For me, I see it as like the more, you know, I don't want to get germs right before I eat.
So I'll wash my hands before.
But the more germs I live around, the better because it heightens my immunity.
So like during COVID, I was going to take, bro.
Where did you learn that?
That's true.
During COVID, I was going to TikTok parties in L.A.
Because I'm like, this is going to boost my immunity.
Well, that, that, I, yeah.
It's the same premise
that's yeah but I don't
see look I don't I don't you don't
no no I don't you don't even read
you don't even read Ray Pete bro you don't
bro you don't know listen I don't give a fuck about health
at all I just don't want my hands to be sticky and gross
and smelly and nasty
and disgusting.
Yeah.
No.
Fuck!
Say as soon as it comes back, we're going to do an outro.
Charmhole is going crazy.
Stream is back. One's of his back.
One's of his back. Farm of it's back. Once of his back.
Marmoles hacking us.
All right, guys.
I'm going to stream tomorrow.
So I'll see you guys tomorrow.
And, yeah, we're going to end
the stream now
see you guys there
I just want to say one last
thing I really like
this new TikTok Bryce Hall haircut
thing you're going for I think it's the fuck
up with that.
This dude's trying to say I got
a zoomer haircut.
Not even...
Look, yeah, I have a normal haircut.
It's like somewhere...
It's like somewhere between
like Bryce Hall.
And you know the meme with like the Mexicans that get the Edgar haircut?
You're somewhere between like Bryce Hall and the Edgar haircut.
What the hell is the Edgar?
Is that the, is that the,
the hell is that?
Bro, you're not culture. Bro, you're not culture, bro.
The Mexicans love me.
You don't even know that.
How the fuck do I have that haircut?
I don't have that haircut.
When I was in high school,
the Mexican girls love me the most.
Like, me and Austin,
well,
Austin's a half Mexican,
but they loved us the most.
I should style my hair different, actually.
Anyway, guys, I have a month to look the best.
I got my beard cut today, but...
I don't know.
Anyway, guys, one last...
Wait.
One last thing.
Yeah.
What was that photo you made where you got your haircut?
And then he started sending me all these pictures of his haircut and we were face-timing talking about something and he just kept looking at himself on his phone screen i saw him looking at himself but then you went in your discord and you made this photo of you
standing on this grassy
hill and you're like
you imposed
yourself on this grassy hill
in like Norway and you're like
damn I actually look tall here
bro because I had someone you're like, damn, I actually look tall here.
Bro, because I had someone take a photo of me and I actually have a fitted suit and I'm like, bro,
every other photo I take, I look like I'm four feet.
And this one I look like Sl'm four feet. And this one, I look like
Slender Man.
But, uh,
you,
you,
you,
like,
impose yourself on this weird.
No,
no,
I'll tell you why,
because I had to remove the background.
Because I was actually in front of my house.
I was in front of my house,
so I had to remove the background.
But, bro, no one knows how tall you look
if you're, like, imposed on this, like, gratis.
True, but I did have to remove the background
because it was my house.
No, I was just saying, like, I'm not talking
about how tall. I'm talking about my,
how I look, like, just
my build.
Anyway, guys,
anyway, guys,
one last thing. We're going to one last thing.
I will say, you know, when it comes to Hassan Piker, you know, there's, there are a few things about him that I don't think he's a grifter about, all right?