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Guys, I'm gonna be debating today. D&D Geopolitics, they're holding a space and apparently there's some Zionists in there and it's fresh meat is what I like to call it
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Guys, let me tell you something, okay?
Let me tell you guys something.
Hazaldine is starting to get mentioned in shit, right?
The Jewish Chronicle. I don't know what this means. The Jewish Chronicle.
And we're going to just go ahead and check out what's going on. It's just madness all around.
We're going to go ahead and review this.
And then we're going to go ahead into the debate.
Okay. So, by the way, guys, I'm getting a haircut tomorrow.
Pretty exciting. I've got to look my best for the Timcast appearance.
So guys, here's the thing, right?
Here's the thing.
So this is an article that was released about Jackson.
All right?
Article released about Jackson.
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I've released a few songs.
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technical stuff, the microphones, the audio and all that.
But yeah, if you check the channel, the Haas channel on YouTube, there's a lot of songs I've
been singing in my spare time. I've become
a somewhat of a musical artist myself exploring the fine arts of music. So yeah,
I check that out. Anyway guys, yeah, by the way, I'm gonna be in Washington, D.C.
This week.
This, I'm not gonna tell you the exact date. I'll tell you when I tell you,
I'm gonna be live streaming in Washington, D.C. as well, and I'm gonna be in Washington, D.C.
I'm gonna be there. Okay. So we have some exciting stuff. We look forward to. But anyway, guys, the Jewish Chronicle.
Who is Jackson Hinkle? Twitter's most viral misinformation spreader and anti-Israel activist.
The MAGA communist has repeatedly been banned from social media after spreading fake news.
Now, first thing we have to notice about this article,
Woman moment, you know, straight up.
This gives us a new perspective, straight up.
This is the only thing you need to like know to is an introduction, all right?
So, that's the first thing we're gonna take note of.
Second thing, in 2008, Jackson Hinkle was in high school.
In the six years since, he has been banned from WhatsApp because of Zionists like yourself, YouTube, Ditto,
PayPal, Ditto, Twitch because of CIA people like yourself for spreading misinformation.
No, I think he just was banned because he said things people in power don't like.
There's no objective criteria of mis- I'm, you know, guys, arguing with a woman is a lot like
arguing with a bird outside. Imagine a bird just comes on your deck, comes on your porch, and just starts chirping.
And then you go outside and you start arguing the bird.
The bird's like, chirp, chirp, and you go outside, he's like, no, I mean, actually, really,
you look stupid.
Anyone passing by would think you're an idiot, right?
So it's the same shit. I mean, what am I going to argue with?
You can't. Anyway, let's continue.
There's nothing to argue with, right?
But, um, to continue, uh, let's see what we are getting.
Um, babies were never beheaded, and Israeli soldiers taken to morgues by Hamas.
Wait, are they saying babies are beheaded still?
I can't keep up with this.
It's fucking crazy.
Um, his politics are confusing.
He's a god-fearing Marxist-Leninist, just like Zyuginov in Russia.
He didn't see any issue with his conservative Marxism.
It's always been conservative.
I mean, this is facts like yeah the Eastern the Warsaw
Pact was socially conservative. People were like well the DDR there was some
like legislation I was passed so that people didn't go to jail for being gay or
whatever and they had gay marriage in like 1980 or something.
It's like it doesn't matter what laws you have on the books if your society is conservative.
Like we're talking about society.
We're not talking about pieces of paper.
Okay, second of all, dude, guys, can you believe this shit? I'm not even going to show
it because of how fucking stupid it is. But I saw the most delusional thing the other day.
I saw these leftists who are like, everyone who's spreading the thing that Palestine is conservative?
They're lying!
Palestine is pro-LGBT!
Because in 1951, sodomy was legal in Palestine and it's the Israelis who made it illegal again.
Like I was so profoundly shocked when they said that because they found some like
some weird source that said that it was,
same-sex relationships were not banned by law in 1951.
Then I looked into it, and it turns out,
this was under the Jordanian Hashemite monarchy. It wasn't Palestine. There was no Palestinian sovereignty during that time
And yeah, I mean, I guess they didn't punish it legally, which is not that uncommon. Not every country throws people in jail for sodomy,
but that doesn't say anything about the values of your society. It doesn't say
anything about what society thinks. Doesn't say anything about what's accepted on a
social level. It just means on a piece of paper, you know,
if a policeman walks in on you doing something, I guess you're not going to jail by the state.
Okay, I mean, that doesn't, but, but if the village finds out what you're doing, you're probably gonna be ostracized at the bare minimum, right?
I mean, honestly, it's just delusional.
Like, it's just fucking delusional, all right?
Like, straight up.
Like, okay, I'm not, I don't, I'm not one for the divisive stuff.
If LGBT people want to fight against Zionism, you know, I'm not going to knock on that.
I wish they would have done the same when it came to support for Ukraine, but whatever, you know,
I'm not I'm not gonna like say that's wrong. I'm not gonna say that
They can't do that, but don't sit here and just straight up lie and be delusional about like Arab culture or
whatever or Muslim culture.
Like don't straight up and just lie to the world and just spread lies that are so obviously
wrong.
It's just going to embarrass all of us and make Zionists look like they're on the side of truth when they're
not, all right?
Straight up.
Like that's so fucking delusional.
I couldn't even believe that.
Anyway, let's continue.
It's not just Marxism which has been corrupted.
It's the American government.
That's such a fringe thing to think that.
Can you think?
Guys, could you believe that the American government
could have been corrupted? That is so far out. Okay, so this is the part that we're focusing on, right?
This is the part we're focusing on here because I didn't come here to just cover Jackson.
I came here to cut.
I was summoned, all right?
Hazaldine has been summoned.
And this is the one paragraph, I'm so happy about it, by the way.
He isn't the only Maga Communist tying contradictory beliefs together.
Okay, this is what is wild. Contradictory beliefs are being tied
together with a common thread of anti-Semitism. So according to this woman, keep that in mind, you know, it's expectations, right?
But according to this woman, the thing that ties together my beliefs is Jews. It's all about Jews.
Jewish people are the center of my universe.
Like, Maga communism, it was all about Jews somehow. It's all about Jews, right?
It's the common thread is anti-Semitism.
Um, the common thread between Maga and communism, it's not, you know, counterhegemonic populism.
It's not, you know, working class, blue collar politics.
It's not opposition to the war mongers or anything like that.
It's really anti-Semitism.
I kind of just feel like this is just Zionist ideology that's projecting this.
Like, Zionists look at Maga and they're like, oh my God, this is a threat to Zionism.
As Zionist as Maga's leaders are, can I make a prediction, guys?
Six months from now.
Maga is either not going to be a populist movement anymore, or it's
going to be anti-Zionist.
No, put that on the record.
Six months ago, six months from now, Israel is going to be seen as the new Ukraine.
Or Maga will die as a populist movement, right? One of the other. Six months from now,
put it on the record. And it is so obvious if you just think about it. Like, why is there a commitment to Zionism?
It's so fake.
It doesn't square with the populism.
Doesn't square with it.
See, MAGA is always late.
But there's always a trickle-down effect with Mago populism. Like the
Ukraine stuff was a little late, at first they were all Russia's bad, and there's
always this kind of trickle-down effect where eventually they realize, oh shit
we're being lied to. know black back they are no different
than the far right morons who think everything is about the Jews really yeah it's
true black pack guys how's al-Deen a Marxist-Leninist YouTube, is that all I am?
I'm not really a YouTube.
I'm more of a political philosopher.
I actually, I would actually like to be addressed by my proper title.
Hazaldine, a political philosopher, and a comedian, a comedian
and political philosopher. Address me by my proper title, okay. So Hazaldine, a comedian and political philosopher, which is my proper title, called for
workers striking to come together with the MAGA industrial working class in parentheses, we kick out the globalist,
he said, we kick out George Soros.
Two obvious dog whistles for Jews.
Okay. obvious dog whistles for Jews, okay?
Two obvious dog whistles for Jews, like Bill Gates, the biggest Jew on earth.
And Klauswab, another giant Jew.
Mega Jew, Klauswab, mega Jew, Bill Gates. You know, clearly a dog whistle.
It's not only a dog whistle, as a matter of fact, it's the whole, it's not just a dog whistle, it's the whole damn dog
megaphone over here, all right?
We kick out the globalist, we kick out George Soros.
We're obviously talking about the Jews here. Straight up so obvious.
Anyway, that is, that is all we got as far as my mention.
But why?
So this is it.
This is, I'm happy about this though.
I got a whole paragraph dedicated to me. And the common threat is anti-s-
okay got it because globalists and George Soros so that's the common thread of anti-Semitism apparently.
If you criticize the ruling class at all, you're really talking about Jews.
You know, it has to, you either be subservient or you hate Jews. That's the only choice.
Anyway, I'm reading, huh, Jackson Inkel isn't the only one profiting to promote
his own hatred of a Jewish community. This is so, so Jackson is doing this because of his hatred for the Jewish community?
Did Jackson get a burnt bagel or something when he went to a bagel shop and he just got a burnt bagel and now he's got
a vendetta.
He's at war with the Jewish community.
What happened?
Everything changed.
Ever since we decided to be misogynistic and transphobic.
It just became about Jews right away.
Like, I love this thing, like everyone's like,
Oh, Jackson's a Nazi.
Oh, how is he a Nazi?
Well, I mean like he's super transphobic for one.
And it's like, ah, transphobia.
The hallmark.
Uh, telltale sign of Nazism in particular, right?
You know, it's got to be that. It couldn't be anything else.
Um, you know, the founders of every major religion.
Jesus was a Nazi. I mean, the prophet of Islam was a Nazi. Everyone's a Nazi.
Like, Gandhi was a Nazi, you know. Actually, that's probably true.
But, you know, a better example, like,
MLK was a Nazi. You want , like, MLK was a Nazi.
You want to know why MLK was a Nazi?
I'm going to tell you why.
Because if MLK brought a woman to his hotel room, she takes off her dress and actually there's a whole dick. Pretty
sure he'd be scared. Pretty sure he'd be a little frightened. So MLK is also transphobic,
therefore he's also Nazi, right?
How am I wrong? Am I wrong about this?
Am I wrong about this? I mean, Mother Teresa?
Probably, you know, the Pope.
Actually, yeah, the Pope.
Everyone knows that he's religious.
But you know, who's somebody these people like?
Native Americans, a native tribal chief.
Imagine a native tribal chief, mine in his business, smoking tobacco, doing whatever they do.
You know, he's just sitting around mining his business and, you know, he's doing the equivalent
of he's like bringing the hose over, basically, one of them straight up has a penis
pretty sure he'd be scared therefore he's a Nazi right I think I'm getting this right I think I'm getting this right.
I think I'm getting this right.
Everybody's a Nazi.
Uh, anyway, let's continue.
I feel like they're like lumping him in with all these other people he has nothing to do with
Okay, let's continue
He's the kind of guy who gives you hope about the future the then environmentalist Hinkle may still be fearless, pretty pretty good compliment,
not bad, but he is certainly no longer well-informed. Why not? He also doesn't
take politics seriously, admitting he does everything for the cloud.
Where does Jackson admit this?
Let's see.
Okay, so guys.
So Jackson claims, in this video video that he does, you know, it's such a small world.
Everything crosses over, right?
So Jackson claims in this video with renowned political analysts and commentators, clearly that's the context.
I did it for the clout. I do everything for the clout. You will never do something not for the
plow. That's the only way. And this is Harley from epic meal time. It's such a small world.
Okay, so if you're not like aware this is not a political statement. He was on a
he was on a show and he was talking about something about like girls
Like I think he was I think it was about like he hit up this girl
Or he was flirting with some girl and he was putting her in her place by saying I'm just doing this for my job bitch I don't actually like you and like this guy interpreted to mean that he's like doing
all his political stuff for clout when all he was saying is like I'm only on this
dumb show with all these like, Normies
for Clout.
I'm doing it to grow the things I care about.
It doesn't mean he doesn't care about the actual thing he does.
It just means he's not here to flatter women.
He's here to grow his business. I mean, the Red Pill
translation is basically he's telling these women, I'm not here for you, I'm
here to grow my business, right? But somehow they took it out of context. By the way, this guy, the Lego guy, I remember this guy.
This dude is like Jackson's number one stalker.
Like Jackson's number one, like,
this dude was up, like his whole account was for Jackson.
Like, it's clear fed, by the way.
Guys are fed.
Actually, this guy got uncovered.
His face, what does he look like again?
Straight up, this guy, I saw it. We know his face, because his face got leaked.
Looks like the biggest faggot ever. Straight up. Like he looks like such a pussy.
He looks like such a like malformed, soyjack retard. And I was I was like damn that's so pathetic but I
think he was like a glowy fed or he worked for some fed NGO or some shit I
don't fucking remember now he looks like a skinny twirp,
but he's like a very angry Jackson stalker.
And you know what's creepy is this guy is like 30 or something or over 30?
And at this time Jackson's like what, 21, 22?
And it's just like he's getting stalked by this creepy guy.
Uh, who's like obsessed with him.
Either he was assigned to Jackson or he had a crush on Jackson.
Either way, it's pretty creepy, right?
Anyway, that was a woman moment. That whole article was just a woman moment.
But here's the response.
Their Twitter thing only got like 43 likes and then this was the response.
So yeah, I mean that's...
Guys, let's do this Twitter space.
Let's do this Twitter space. Let's do this Twitter space, alright, let's do this Twitter space.
Let's do this Twitter space.
Joe, let's go!
Let's go!
And by the way, guys, do not worry about interrupting it.
This is not a serious one.
The Jackson one, I didn't want any interruptions.
Don't worry about interrupting this one, all right?
Don't worry about it.
So we're going to get in to this space, start listening.
The situation.
Wait, who about the airport? Who besieged it?
No, okay, wait.
Who besieged Gaza?
Tell me, just answer the question.
Who besieged Gaza right now?
Is Gaza free to import and export goods as they need?
How about... I'm in! The whole direction of they need. How about...
I'm in!
The whole direction of the line of questioning, and let's just go into like understanding
his mindset on certain things.
If that's okay.
Let me, sorry, sorry, I just want to say it with one word.
Hamas did not kill any civilian in Gaza.
Hamas is just only defensing the Israeli attack on Gaza.
Okay, thank you so much.
That's the...
So we get Haz, Doran and Faraz, just free of them engage amongst the conversations.
For us and Haz to engage with Doron in whatever line of question I have, because we hardly get
has on the space as well and we all love him.
I'm already here, man.
How about I can talk without being questioned?
Go ahead.
You want to mute yourself and introduce yourself to everyone?
Oh yeah, I appreciate it man. I'm Haas, Hazaldine. I've been a commentator on this conflict.
I, comedian and political philosopher, that's how I style myself. So it's good to be here.
And I just want to state my position real quick. I believe that
Israel has no right to exist whatsoever. So that's my position. So there you go.
And how do you think Israeli is going to feel about that?
Who cares?
They're going to kill you, bitch.
They're not going to kill me.
What are they going to kill me?
That's what the last guy said on the video I saw on the phone.
The Hamas guy on the phone.
I don't know if you guys have seen that on Twitter.
He's still laughing, laughing.
Now he's dead.
He's not.
I'm still, I've been laughing for a long time.
I'm gonna laugh.
Dorn, let me make you a promise. Sorry. I'm gonna I'm gonna laugh. Doran, let me make you a promise.
Sorry. I'm gonna laugh through the destruction of Israel. It'll happen in my
lifetime and I will laugh as it happens. Duran, what's so wrong with having equal
rights for everyone? What's so wrong with the head treating everyone to respect?
What's wrong with that?
No, there's no wrong with it.
That is by itself goes against the Zionist supremacist ideology
that the apartheid state that Israel is.
That itself contradicts your argument because that's what
Israel stands for. If you don't like me, go look in the doctoration. It calls for
the supremacist regime. See as soon as you say the word apartheid, that gets my
backup. Okay, Doran, I'm going to state a fact and then I'm going to let Haas speak.
120 Israeli legal professors stated that Israel operates as an apartheid state.
I don't fucking care, dude.
Well, then you think you're smarter than Israeli legal professors?
Yeah, you know what?
You do?
I don't fucking care what they say.
I'm allowed to have my opinion.
Like you are.
Your opinion's wrong.
Anyway, hi, I'll let you continue.
Yeah, I'm just curious.
Duran.
Do you live in occupied Palestine?
What country do you live in?
I live in Canada.
Okay, you live in Canada.
So what we call people like you, you're tethers.
You live in Canada, you live in America.
You're not even loyal to the country you live in, but you want everyone to sacrifice themselves for Israel.
Okay, so you are in opposition to me. Where do you live?
The United States of America.
And where were you born?
This country, the one I'm standing in.
See, because I was born in Israel.
Okay, then why did you flee?
Why don't you go die for Israel?
I left when I was four years old, my parents left time.
Why don't, okay, hold on, why don't you go fight for the cause you believe in,
instead of having young Americans go die for this fake gay country.
What young Americans?
Yeah, the 5,000, the 5,000 minister, Lenin Street, let him speak and let us speak and
let everyone's be realistic.
This is going to end in two ways, either a ceasefire or a regional
war, because the stated goal of the Zionist regime that they're going to eliminate Hamas
will not happen without a regional war. It just won't. So, either it's going to be a ceasefire or a regional war. If
there's a regional war, U.S. gets involved because of Zionist lobbyists, such
as yourself, who have hijacked the U.S. government and are forcing Americans to go give
money and die for Israel. So I think that's
criminal. Why should we prop up this country? If this is such a real country, why
does it need America to exist? If it's such an organic country that can survive in
the region, why does it need America?
Wouldn't it, if it's such a real country, couldn't it fend for itself somehow?
Against 1.4 or 1.8 billion Muslims, how does that happen? Who all want Jews to be dead?
They, based on what...
No one, like where did you get that from?
Oh, please.
If, if Muslims want Jews to be dead, then why didn't they eliminate Jewish people throughout
the thousands of years in which Jews have lived in Muslim civilizations?
You know what?
No, Buella!
I think that this is pretty well an impossible argument.
You got a guy like...
You got a guy's like...
Hang on.
Aldeen.
Nice name, by the way.
He lives in Texas, I believe?
Correct.
You probably, you know what, we could probably be friends one day, but we are on opposite
sides of a very weird situation.
I'm like a Jew whose history has been not great, you know.
We've been hated fucking by everybody since the year, Dot.
That's something I actually disagree with.
I don't think Jews have been hated everywhere.
I think that...
Okay, whatever, I'd really like to finish what I'm saying.
Okay, go ahead.
So I feel, we've been persecuted like by fucking everyone.
The Romans killed more Jews than Hitler did, by the way, just saying.
And so I am what I am.
I mean... Yeah, you're not really I don't understand your point like this whole narrative that like Jews are killed
Everywhere I mean like maybe for in Europe that was true because of the religious differences the Roman conflict was a religious and territorial conflict.
Jews who lived in the city of Rome and Italy were not really persecuted until
the arrival... I'm not talking about them. Yeah, I just think the narrative is just kind of wrong.
Okay, fine. You can think whatever you want.
What are significant examples of Jewish persecution by Muslims?
Sulemann, who invaded Israel back in the day.
Wait, wait, what Muslim invaded Israel? There was no Israel. What are you talking about?
Okay, so Muslim only started in 600, right?
Right, and by the time that Islam arrived on earth, there was no such thing as a kingdom or state of Israel.
There was Byzantine occupied territory. So the Temple of Solomon was what?
Was destroyed twice? But who, what was the Temple of Solomon? Was that, uh,
was that, that was in the, uh, kingdom of Christian temple?
Or no, no, the temple of Solomon was destroyed. It was rebuilt. That was the second temper.
What religion ran the temple, owned the temple of Solomon?
It was destroyed. It didn't exist. What religion? By the time Islam arrived,
there was no temple of Solomon, dude, I don't know what to tell you. It's like, you're
getting worked up over this. Was Solomon not a Jew? Yeah, but he was like, that was ancient history by then.
Oh, but yeah, so ancient history.
So that was fucking the land of the Jews back then.
Before you people even existed.
Well, technically the Canaanites preceded the Kingdom of Israel, so that's actually wrong.
But like, whatever, you know what, we can argue this, I'm not intellectual.
I'm not denying there was a historical kingdom of Israel, but happened. So you know I don't
really think that that's even relevant anymore is it? Exactly I don't think
it's relevant so why are you talking about it? Well I didn't start it you did. No you
said that um no you started it I'm the one who said that what's the history of persecution of Jews by...
Because apparently... I know it, and even that question is kind of weird.
Well, I'm asking this question because you're, it seems like you're trying to say that, like, basically, listen, I'm asking this question because it seems like you're trying to say that basically,
listen, I'm Jewish, this is like I need Israel to exist because Jews are persecuted everywhere.
Well, given, it's an awkward location.
It's the only place, you know what? It's the place the size of Vancouver Island in an
area that's as big as almost the United States in a Muslim way if you if you go
from Morocco all the way east,
past Saudi Arabia, it's in that area and you look at Israel which has zero oil
by the way, it has nothing.
I don't understand your plan. Islam is not a nation so you can't
just kick out and evacuate a nation from their homes and expect it to. Why do
you want Israel so bad? It's a tiny piece of ground. Why do you want Palestine so
about the whole point. Hold on my apartment. The do you want Palestine so bad? That was the whole point.
Doran I think the people who want the people who want the people who want
Palestine are Palestinians. You can't just straight up go and rob their land
and then expect them not to fight back for it. Like that's nonsense.
But they're Jordanians to me, they're not Palestinians.
They're Jordanians.
Okay, fine, you can call them whatever you want, but those people...
They should go back to Jordan.
No, Doran, Doran, you seem confused.
This is kind of like Zionist Babel.
It doesn't matter what they call themselves.
The people who lived on that land and had the homes and villages on that land and the olive
trees and stuff.
Call them, call them space aliens if you want, but that's their land.
Doesn't matter what you call them. Okay, then.
Just like if you call them Chinese, that doesn't mean they're going to be tied to Chinese
land.
You can call them whatever you want.
That's their land.
Okay, so they were beaten in many wars.
Well, the wars aren't over. As as you can see they're not over.
They're not and they were beaten in every single war since till today. Well
they're still around and they're still fighting. When you beat in the war
and somebody takes your land and they still fighting anymore.
No, but they're still fighting for it.
Who said the wars are over?
They're not over.
They're still fighting for it.
No, they're not over.
So he's a colonizer.
Exactly.
The wars, the wars are not over.
So I don't know what your point is. You know what you guys? And
Doran it's I just find it curious like if if a history of Jewish persecution in
Europe because let's be real justifies the creation of a of the Zionist state
it's such a weird location given that you can't name any significant examples of
the persecution of Jews
under Muslim land which is where Israel is located. When have Muslims persecuted
Jews? It's kind of unfair that you're blaming, you're attacking
Arabs and Middle Easterners for something Europeans did historically. Why don't
you know create a state of Israel in like Germany or something? Why there?
Why are you blaming people who have nothing to do with any Jewish persecution whatsoever?
We've created it because that is where Moses took the Jews from Egypt.
Yeah, but according to the...
Canaan. Right, but now we're going to keep that land, and you know what, the more that
you people fight, we will turn God into a parking lot.
Before we talk about parking lots and stuff.
Let me fucking finish, dude.
Because your first sentence when you came on
was very aggressive.
All right, continue on parking lots.
Shut that fuck up and let me talk.
So now it's time.
How big is the parking lot by the way can I park my car there or is there a handicap?
What's the parking lot? You can park your car there,
but it will be destroyed, my friend. So why is it a parking lot, dude? Why is it a parking lot?
If I can't, if so if I park my car there, it's destroyed, then why not make it a water park why does
it have to be a parking lot doesn't even make sense
Doran are you gonna answer you seem a bit too dim to really argue with... I kind of, no I just kind
of want to get to the point because it kind of sounds like you're saying
because of religion, but doesn't it say in the Talmud that you can't have a
kingdom of Israel until the Messiah comes? I don't, I'm not religious, so it doesn't matter. But you
said Moses is the reason you chose that land. Well that means it's religious. He
was a Jew, so yeah. Yeah, but that was a religion. Doesn't make me religious.
Okay, so what? No, you're not religious either. So is this some kind of like race racial
theory of Judaism? That's nonsense. A rabbi would slap you across the face if he heard that.
It's about religion. I can't fucking do rabbis. Okay well rabbi is going to take his sandals and beat you with it if he
told him this. I pretty much doubt that. You're saying Judaism isn't a religion
it's just a so what is this what is this racial nonsense theory you're spouting? This
is like some racial supremacy kind of like, yeah,
the Jewish race. This is just German nationalism from the 1800s. It's just nonsense.
Full-on fucking Nazis, dude. Dude, this is just European racial nationalism from like the 19th
century. That has nothing to do with two days. You know what dude, you know what
dude, you just sound like a fool. I don't want to argue with you anymore. Seriously.
You don't sound like that.'re that so you just want to
talk about parking wants? No but we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna
God is gonna turn into one. No okay I'm gonna I want it sounds like what you're
it sounds like you've got some
expect okay, go ahead then the math finished yeah, West Bank is next okay well
before before you get I don't want you to get too excited so I want to temporar
expectations a little bit what's gonna happen is that the ID I-O-F is going to temporar expectations a little bit. What's going to happen is that
the IOF is going to go into Gaza and get slaughtered. It's going to be so, so horrific.
It's going to be like, it's going to be like, saw.
You ever seen the movie Saw? It's going to be like that.
They're already in Gaza and you guys are running...
Dorn, have you ever seen the movie Saw?
It's going to be a death trap.
It's going to be just like that.
So they're going to get slaughtered.
And then let me tell you what's going to happen.
Eventually, maybe Hamas will be cornered, right?
But when that time comes, Hezbollah's going to get involved, Iran will get involved,
the domino effect, and then there's going to be no more Israel.
It's just not going to be on the map anymore. So what will you do?
I mean, how are you going to cope with that?
I want to do this for your mental health,
because you seem to have these expectations that do not seem realistic.
So we need to tempper our expectations, make our expectations realistic
so that you can have the most peace of mind in your Canadian life. So go ahead. Doran are you still there?
Archie, did you want to speak?
Yeah, I want to ask him.
Who are you asking?
Who are you asking? Who is he? I want to ask him, first of all, I'm, my name is Arachu.
I'm originally from Israel.
I live these days in New York.
Of course, first of all, I'm very, very happy to hear this guy has, that has been honest, and he said
that basically he wants to wipe state of Israel, which is...
It's good that...
No, it's good that the person come up
Doesn't hide stuff and say the truth as is
So first of all thank you that you
Saying the truth as is
Yeah, I didn't know it was such a rare thing to say, but yeah, I mean, the state of Israel
deserves to be...
No, because you know, some people, like, you know, this try to try to go over and over who started first, so this, at this,
and in the end of the day, if you want to try to make a piece with a person that doesn't want you to be exist,
so it's a different game.
I mean, yeah, there's no peace with the Zionist entity in the long term will ever be possible.
So wait, so wait, now you change your mind.
What that's against the Zionist against the Jews?
Which one are we talking about the Jews?
Okay, so what I said was
the Zionist entity which is a synonym for Israel. So let's let's so let's
reverse. So you have you have no problem with the Jewish people as me. I have the
problem with the Zionist. I. I've... I don't...
Yeah, Jews in general don't really have a problem with them.
I wouldn't say I do.
Okay, so, so, okay, so we come to agreement on something.
I like Adam Sandler. I like Adam Sandler.
I think Aidenrault is pretty cool.
Like I don't even have a problem with them.
Not really.
T.D. is a lot.
So, okay. So when you said like, you know, basically you want to wipe state of Israel as a Zionist state?
Yeah. Correct. Okay. and what what should be instead of that? Whatever the
people of... Can I just re-qualify your position? Would you say your position is
you basically, I think the moral encompass even by UN is Israel as
an occupying state and basically the resistance are looking to gain control
back of their estate right so the moral encompass fundamentally is you're fighting to get back
the state which is an occupying state, correct?
Yeah, I would say that the, first of all, the Palestinian resistance, according to the
principle of national self-determination,
would probably decide what happens, and then I would imagine a deeper regional involvement
for regional integration, and we would probably see the region decide what happens as
far as the governance of that territory. But I do imagine that it would...
And I would like to answer that. Has? Yeah. And like in the past, Iran and Iraq had a war that
lasted eight years and yet the United States beat up Iraq in
what four days so when you say Iran is going to be involved I don't think
anybody's frightened to them just to be honest. Well Iran is a very different place
than it was. Yeah really you You think so? I don't.
Well, I mean, the facts disagree with you.
As, I want to ask you, I want to ask you quick.
Which facts?
Don't, can you give me one second?
I want to ask as one question.
Sure.
If you have the opportunity, I mean if people have in
Gaza and the West Bank have the opportunity, let's say, to vote for which under government they want to live under Israeli government or under Hamas
or whatever Hezbollah.
What do you think will be the vote for?
From the people.
I'm not talking about from the politic perspective from the vote for? From the people. I'm not talking about from the politic
perspective, from the people like you know they're running the show. I'm talking
about like you know if you're taking individual people and give them the
option to vote. What do you think will be the result? Hamas. Okay, I don't think so.
Well, typically, you know, Palestinians, the Palestinian Street, they kind of just seem very opposed to, I mean
look, Arafat was with the Oslo Accords.
They didn't like that.
That followed the, with the Intifada.
Two-state solution is not popular among Palestinians.
You're right. Okay, but let's let's be honest. Let's be honest. Let's put this straight up.
Most of the Palestinian that lives in Gaza these days everybody wants to get out of there not
Because what happened on October 7th even way before that people wants to leave these places
Okay, it wants to have to leave more free
Let's just assume that's true. They leave and where do they go?
So I'm asking you a different question. Where is all these refugees from Syria left to?
Where they are now? Was it seven million of them? Where they are now?
And they're in the process of resettlement. Where?
All over Europe. Well that's Europe's problem now I guess but the ones that are
in the region. Wait why why is the Europe problem? Because that's Europe decided to
take in refugees and whether they want to be settled.
So why is the problem?
Because they are not from Europe and they don't have the same culture and assimilation is difficult.
But it's very easy that if you're coming to a different state,
you respect that you, if you're coming to a different country,
you respect the country that you came in,
that they welcomed you and you march into the system.
A massive influx.
But they don't.
A massive...
Well, Vinus didn't do that.
It doesn't...
Like the Israelis from you, the Jews from Europe did
when they came to Palestine? Is that what you mean?
Yeah.
Wait, I didn't respect the Palestinian.
I didn't hear you said it again.
Basically, you didn't respect the Palestinians when you came to our state under Palestine
and living between Palestinians. Instead, you kicked us out.
Listen, I want to tell you something.
I just want to ask him what his point is.
Archu, can you get to your point?
I want to tell you like this.
Like, if we, we can be in spaces and talking over
and talking over and talking over, like, you know,
and I won't be able to change your mind you won't
probably will be able to change my mind but at least let's talk now if you're
looking in history so the question is from which point in the history you start
looking at the Bible you looking in the Quran, which one is, is for
which point I can start looking in the history.
So if you even, even if you look in the Quran.
I think we're pivoting, I would like you to explain your point about Syrian refugees and
the relevancy.
Like what does that have to do with?
No, I'm saying like, he has to do like, you know, if the Arab nation and Europe and people
are like really care about the Palestinian people, so some of them can find themselves like those people that wants to live, not the people. So some of them can find themselves like those people that
wants to live, not the people that want to stay. So let me let me answer that.
So I'm sure you're aware that the countries in the Middle East, specifically in the
Levant, already have a huge Palestinian
refugee population, and this is what has contributed to a great deal of the instability in the region.
So that's why the right of return is actually so fundamental and important to this cause,
because these people have been uprooted from their
own historical lands of their families and their forefathers and they don't have lands in these
other countries because they don't have ties to them. So this is why the right of return is so important. So when you say that
people in Gaza want to leave Gaza, I'm trying to tell you even if they left, they would not be at
home anywhere they went because that's their home. Palestine is their home. And this is...
Some people doing changes. What are you talking about?
Well, Palestinians are not like Zionists. They're not people who just are going to pack up their bags and completely change their identity and create a fake country.
But as, what do you think, whythe Jewish people came to the state of Israel
to the land of Israel to the Holy Land? Why? I think most of them were triggered. It's a Bible.
No I did like we just said this is not about religion. It's mostly the Bible. Okay I mean if this is about the Bible then you should listen to the
Talmud which says you cannot return until the Messiah until the arrival of the
Messiah. No the Bible is opposite. You have in the Talmud you have the opposite
where you have to say to you that you must, you cannot even live outside of land of Israel.
That makes no sense because the Talmud, the Talmud would give you three rules that
you have, you can leave the state of Israel,that the land of Israel one is sure the matter
The problem with what you're saying is that but the reason why what you're saying is contradictory is because the Talmud was actually compiled
after the majority of Jews were no longer living in that territory.
So it was actually compiled outside of quote unquote Israel.
So that doesn't make sense.
But why did you quote your Talmud?
I don't understand.
Why do you quote the Talmud?
Because it is a part of the Jewish...
You have much more other stuff you can quote.
You can quote only...
It is part of the Jewish religion
that you cannot return to the promised land until the arrival of the Messiah.
Listen, I'm a Jewish Orthodox
and I gotta tell you that I never heard about this type of rules.
I have no idea where you're making that from.
Well, I know because you've probably been brainwashed by Zionist propaganda.
No, no, no, I'm not a Zionist propaganda and I grew up in ultra-Autodox world.
Okay, so are you aware of the Orthodox Jews who are anti-Zinus?
Yeah, I'm aware of them, yeah. So what's their argument? I, listen, those
people, I have, they have the own idea that against the Zionists, but the fact
that they joined the Palestinian which has nothing to do
with each other that's that's something else but I'm not agree to agree with
them. They make the religious case that it's actually heretical. Zionism is a
heretical. Yeah you know what I said to those you know what I said to those, you know what I said to those people, they live in the United States most of them.
Right. Very, very, very small group from those Nitturotra and Israel that standing up in those type of protests and a protest against Israel.
But those people, most of them live in the United States.
Like, they never...
Some of them do live in Jerusalem.
Yeah, barely they have a small group and Mearsher in.
But a very small in
amount of that.
Yeah, what?
Around 100,000, yeah?
I think, uh, no, no, no way.
Archu, is there a reason why the ultra-orthodox when the first government of Israel was formed,
they didn't participate in the government in Israel and they never actually,
they said it was forbidden for them to participate or even become
ministers in the government for the first few decades?
You may be right, and you know what, this is part of the our inside politics. If you want to bring it against
the Zionist, so okay so you have one point. It's not about the it's not about
the fact it's like you know nobody nobody no it's, it's like nobody is perfect in every, in every
country, in every country, there is some ethnic or some group or some people who will say
that you include me.
What happened in the United States?
With the black people. So like, you know, in every
country if you're going to go, nobody's perfect everywhere in the world.
Right. But what I'm trying to establish here is that this isn't about religion. This is not
about religion. About race. So the whole point is what I'm trying't about religion. This is not about religion.
About race.
So the whole point is, what I'm trying to say is the ultra-orthodox in the beginning justified
moving to basically Israel by saying we are not going to be part of the state and that's how we're going
to justify it as long as we don't participate in the state and we don't
recognize Israel as a Zionist state but we're going to live in the Holy Land
and then after...
But you have...
Wait, let's carry off because but let's cut it off because
in the Orthodox group, there is so many of them.
You have the lituric, you have the, the, the Litvak, which is, I don't know if you know,
the, the, the, the, those, it's a different from the Hasidic, and you have the Sphardic.
There is so many, there is so many of them, so it's not all of the orthodox, it's not all
of the orthodox, like being like, you know, none of the Orthodox. It's not not all of the Orthodox like being like you know...
None of them participated in the first few decades of the state of Israel and
the government and then the first ones that did I think were the Sephardic
Jews who said that it was no no no no you're wrong you, you're wrong. You're wrong. Okay, I don't know what...
Let for us finish, let's finish his statement, he never interrupted you.
So my point is basically after that they justified it by saying,
okay, we will participate, but it is forbidden for us to be a minister, it's okay for we be a
deputy minister, and then it was okay to be a minister. So it seems that there's some religious
revisionism happening just so, and to my, in my opinion, it seems that the Zionist kind of ideology is
corrupting the fundamentalist position of the Orthodox Jews by participating
in the Zionist state. And listen there is definitely a movement from the real Zionist to the what is today so-called
Zionist.
I can tell you that today the right side in Israel, if you compare it to Ben Gurion, so
Bengrion is today, if Ben if Bengrion was alive today he was
will be considered like it them are bankville. You understand what I'm saying?
Yeah yeah I know he's a so I'm saying like know, things are changed.
So, the people that have so much against the Zionist,
the Zionist today is not what the Zionist was like, you know, 40 or 50 years ago.
Right, there are even more...
Everything is changed.
I agree, the Zionists today are even more open about their criminal depravity than they were before.
But...
Please, man. Really? You would say...
But I'd like to ask a simple question, though So since for you this is about religion it seems like
It seems to me that you would prefer as an Orthodox Jew
That Jews live in a way commensurate with the rules and customs and culture of their religion. So here's my question.
You have two places in which Jews live.
One is in occupied Palestine, as I'd call it.
The other is in the Islamic Republic of Iran.
Of the two places, in which of the two places are Jews more obedient to their
religion? Where how many what Jews live in Iran? Thousands, plenty maybe tens of
thousands actually. No way.
I don't know their dreaming.
Barely, barely Jewish these days, barely, barely Jewish living these days in Iran.
Okay, so for the Jews that are living in Iran, are they more pious, are they more following their
religion than your average Tel Aviv nightclub ho in Israel today?
I will answer your question.
How come all Arab countries have ethnically cleansed the Jews out of their country?
No Jew is allowed to...
In almost every case of Jews being quote-unquote ethnically cleansed from Middle Eastern
and Arab countries, it was actually due to Mossad or Lehi or the Stern Gang Terrorism that drove them out
of their homelands back to Israel to serve in the IOF and uphold the Zionist dream.
So we're not gonna do that.
But you could talk about being ethnically cleansed
from Europe and the pale.
Also, there's about 10,000 Persian Jews still in Iran.
10,000 Persian Jews still in Iran. 10,000.
How many, how many Muslims live in Israel?
We were from, we are from Palestine, so we didn't actually...
How many Jews live, how many Muslims live in Israel?
How many of them were immigrants almost?
Seven million almost right? Seven million? Yeah, yeah. You don't consider the West Bank and Gaza Israel, right?
You said that we're going to take all...
No, you're talking about like in let's say you have two million in West Bank, you have
like a million, let's say, and in Israel you have another two.
You want two million Palestinian citizens of Israel, you have 350K in East Jerusalem,
you have 3 million in the West Bank and you have 2.3 million in Gaza.
So that's...
Where do you have 3 million?
What are you talking about?
Feraz, how many Jews live in your shitty countries?
None.
My country is your country, Dora.
Why?
Why?
No, your countries all the way from Morocco, all the way to Saudi Arabia, all the Muslim
countries.
They're saying that Muslims are all one nation, that's not true.
There's different cultures, ethnicities, and states that are Muslim, yes, but they're not
the same countries.
I just, I'm just waiting for my citizenship in Israel that's it I
just want to be able to vote that's... Where is where were you from by the way in
Israel? You know what's funny is that there? I'm from Ramallah. There are more Jews
there are more Jews in Europe. There are more Jews. There are more Jews in Iran.
Not so fancy.
There are more Jews in Iran than there are in Poland and the Baltics combined.
That's because Iran is run by Arabs, not not Persians.
Wait, how is Iran run by Arabs?
I don't understand.
Ask any, ask any Persian who lives in Canada, they'll tell you.
I'm sure.
We're going to go to the U.S.
Is the Supreme Luter of Iran and Arab?
I personally do not know.
But I do know that every Iranian and I speak to in Canada left
because Arabs run the country and not...
So are they telling the truth or are they just saying that because they're ass-heard about
the Pahlavi dynasty being overthrown? Well, I, you know what, if you ever told me it was raining outside, I'd go and look
because I'm pretty sure it would be sunny.
Okay, so it's unclear to you whether the Supreme Leader of Iran is an Arab, just to
be clear?
I'm completely unclear. Well, don't you think that kind
of speaks to like your lack of education on the topic or? Not really, no. Okay,
are the people of Azerbaijan Arabs?
No.
Are Aziri's living in Iran Arabs?
No.
Interesting.
Okay, yeah, so Iranians. But you're an Arab, right?
You're an Arab, right?
Haas?
No, I'm Jewish.
No, I know you're not Jewish.
I know you're not Jewish.
Wait, we have like a very even...
Haz is an honor.
Wait, we have a very even battle right now because we have two, we have Farras and
Haas on the, we'll call them the Arab side, and then we have the two Zionists and now
you have two anti-Zionist Jews on the panel.
This is the...
Who is the two anti-Zionist?
Yeah, no, Dede is one of them for sure.
I'm the other one.
Although she...
Who's the other one?
The Ozzy guy?
No.
Benjamin. Who's Benjamin Benjamin where are you no I'm Muslim
who's Benjamin Rubinstein Benjamin Rubinstein oh there that guy
yeah he's a he's the proper Jewish And what about the Ozzy guy?
What is he?
He's just Ozzy, man.
No, he's not just Ozzy.
Muslim.
Okay, thank you.
Everyone's got to be something.
That's the important thing.
It ought to be something, damn's that's the important thing for it to be something damn it
right we reach door on huh I'm trying to label people man don't put people in a
box man oh fucking everybody in our dude everybody everybody here is in a box.
I just want to vote.
Can I just vote?
Can I just vote?
Because you know, Nathaniel controls my life as much as he controls Archie's life.
Yeah, Nyea was really good at putting people in boxes, so.
Are we going to go to Israeli politics now is that the deal?
No, I just want to ask for it.
Let's go back to Archu and Haz, I think, and it's not.
I'm afraid, I want to ask you, where in Ramallah do you live exact?
I'm sensitive information, but I don't live in the rich party.
Don't tell us.
I'm starting, I'm suspicious that you, you're working for the IDF, if I...
No, no, I don't work for the IDF. I... No no I don't work for the IDF I wouldn't say about my
time. I have to interject for a second here. I'd serve in the I'd serve in the
PDF when we can get equal voting rights you know I just I just have to
interject here for a second I saw a tweet day before yesterday this gay guy going
Yes, I'm gay and I live in Tehran and there was a reply from Iranian government. you soon that's like a that's like a joke for like
60 year olds Doron come on now is fine are you from the you live in United
States as who me so so you're on did you know I'm in the you I look well Yes. Who? Me? So, Duran.
Is Durant the U.S.
Well, I live in the U.S. but right now I'm in Tel Aviv and I'm just chilling, you know,
basically.
But I do live in the U.S.
Are you seriously in Tel Aviv?
Yeah, I am.
Wow, nice. Where are you hanging out in Holland B?
I'm just gathering in. I'm gathering Intel and kind of just scoping things out, you know.
Do you think of you're taking a picture of buildings. Yeah, I'm your photoshoots, all this kind of stuff. I'm kind of a photographer.
He's in Texas.
He's doing a Tick-Tock video video is in his IDF outfit.
Hey, Dorin, I've got Nico here.
He's actually Persian, and you mentioned that Iran's run by Arabs.
Nick, you want to respond to that?
First, let me thank D.D. Truth.
I'm not familiar with Abby, but thanks for giving me the mic. Happy to be here again.
Again, I'm here on a friendly level, all right? Nothing controversial. I think truth, I don't know if it was
Haas or Duran who said the Islamic Republic regime is
Arabs, is that what I heard?
I definitely didn't say that.
I don't know who just spoke. I'm sorry, what now? I'm just saying I definitely didn't say that.
So that was... Doran, Doran said it and we all laughed. Duran, I don't know, I know
majority like 95% in here are Palestinian supporters. Are you Palestinian Duran or Jewish?
No, I'm Jewish, Israeli.
All right, my friend. So, just to be clear, I'm not Jewish, I'm not Israeli, I'm just a New Yorker and Persian-American.
So the Islamic Republic, they're not Arabs, right?
They're, you know, Iranians, but the whole ideology is different than mine if
that makes sense to run. All I all I know Nico is that I know a lot of
true. He's trying to say Doran he's your friend he's pro-Israeli but he's from Iran in the US and he's basically rebutting your commentary in terms of
around the Arab. All you're doing is interrupting. Exactly. That's what Tim does
for his Aussie guy. What's up Mike? What's up Mike? Tim relax.
Relax. Nick uh, Nick, I live in Vancouver. Here's the Aussie guy. What's up, mate? What's up, mate? Tim, relax.
Nick, Nick, I live in Vancouver, British Columbia.
We have a very large Persian community here.
And I've spoken to many of them.
I'm property manager. I rent out houses and condos.
That's right, just DM and Chobos' numbers.
Talk about that tomorrow.
No, Timmy boy.
Timmy boy, relax.
They all tell me, they all tell me that the guys in charge in Iran are not Persian.
So that's what I'm saying.
And I can elaborate on that, Duran.
Timmy Boy, what's up, Mike?
Can you just wait, you turn and let us talk like adults or you're going
to keep interrupting like a little baby? Wow so defensive there Nico? No I'm just
saying to me boy you know that's a little calm down man I'm just I'm just saying
relax it's actually pronounced mate might there
you go might my bad mate no mate mate mate exactly there you go exactly very
well there you go can I respond back to Duran, host?
Is I okay or somewhere?
Okay.
So what's going on, Dora, you're pretty much correct, right?
So the Iranians and the diaspora has a total different ideology or outlook with the whole
entire regime in Iran, right? So the regime came to power in
1979 through
Humeini. So when he passed away or died, then they have the Supreme Leader right now, Ali
Harmoni, right? So people like myself, you know, I don't agree with whatever he's
doing with the regime in Iran. So the people in Canada, for example, speaking of Vancouver,
Toronto, or whatever, they have pretty much the same thinking process as me. Does that make sense to Iran?
Yes, absolutely.
You just deflect on these questions? Like, so the question was, are the Iranian, is Iranian in power Arabs yes or no
Timmy I I don't understand this guy's accent to somebody translate
He asked if the Iranian regime is run by Arabs or if they are Arabs
Okay, so it so Timmy boy from Aussie loves yes or no answers, right? So we're like in first grade. He doesn't like to have
dialogues. You can't answer the question, bro. It's so easy. Okay, I will. All right, Zana. Take it easy easy, tough guy, relax, let me get a chance.
Hey, hey, relax, hey.
Zana, you're a funny guy, okay?
Hold on.
To make it a yes or no, the answer will be no.
Doran, there you go he said no
Thank you
All right, let's move on to something is the godfather
Yeah, I tell us now. Yeah, please back to ours. Yeah, I needed some fact check that by an inner Iranian now go on please
Okay, I was just wondering if the godfather was dubbed in Persian check that by an Iranian, now go on, please.
Okay, I was just wondering if the godfather was dubbed in Persian yet, but it seems like
it's on its way.
But anyway, as I was saying, basically, so-called Israel has no right to exist whatsoever.
And I kind of want to focus...
As you change your mind already, you can't say the Zionist, be focused.
You said the Zionist.
Well, you can call it whatever you want. It's like the Zionist should not be. You can call it whatever you want.
It's like the Zionist entity. I like to call it quote-unquote Israel. And when I say the word Israel, I'm using air quotes with my hands.
You just can't see it. So, but I don't think it has a right to exist. Actually, I know it doesn't.
And, you know, that's my position. I also think that Haminai is a great leader, a great
leader, and the Islamic Republic of Iran is by far the best modern
government Iran has ever had in its history. You will for sure be proven to be
wrong. Well okay okay, hypothetically speaking, because let's just be realistic.
Hypothetically, you just entertain the hypothetical.
Let's say there's a regional war and Israel has wiped off the map.
It's no longer on the map, then what? What would
you, what would your position be? I don't really know how to answer that because
I can't believe that could happen. Well would you be going Australia and hopping with kangaroos or what would be, you know,
like, what would be your reaction?
What would you do?
Well, I don't think Israel will be wiped off the face of the map.
I think you will probably be wiped off first.
Okay, well let's let's use some basic logic then, all right? So there's a region, it's called
the Middle East, I don't know if you've heard of it, and there's this country there that just doesn't
get along with anyone and never will. So how do
you plan on having Israel exist without foreign war interventions to protect it
until the end of time? Are we just America is going to have to sacrifice
everything for Israel forever? I mean at what point can quote unquote Israel be what you call
self-sustaining? You know like yeah you have to prop it up at first and give it billions of dollars
and weapons and all this stuff.
But like shouldn't it become self-sustaining eventually? Do you foresee that
ever happening or what? Well I think that seeing as Israel owns America doesn't
really use the kind of a mood point isn't it? Well you actually believe that, or are you just being facetious?
I'm being a troll, just like how are you being a trial.
Right, well, realistically, when do you foresee Israel and air quotes?
When do you foresee that state becoming self-sustaining? I feel it's pretty self-sustaining
well the it's just not because we have to send American warships. Just this.
Well it's really not. Okay so I'm I'm an American and my tax dollars are funding that
Tether State completely I don't you know what I don't really care about your
fucking tax dollars I'll tell you something well will you can I finish if you
don't care if you don't care about my tax dollars then you don't care
here's what I'm telling you yeah yeah here's what If you don't care about my tax dollars, then you don't care about it.
Here's what I'm telling you.
Here's what I know.
Yeah.
Is that all when you say we give Israel so much money, we give them so much money, we give
them everything.
No, you get shit in exchange for that. You get shit in exchange you give them everything
you get stuff in exchange for that well I I do maybe like some Wall Street
corrupt country your country okay sure sure so so just to just to establish
where we stand on this, you believe this symbiotic mutually
beneficial relationship where America is getting anally raped, but it's mutually beneficial.
You think, you know, in quotes, it's mutually beneficial,
but that is just going to last till the end of time. Like at what point are we no longer going
to have this mutually beneficial relationship? You have to ask this question in the United States,
not Israel. I'm asking you at what point
do you foresee that Israel will no longer... The point of the United States decided
that she doesn't want to have anything to do with Israel but I don't think
it's going to happen because the interest of the United States is to to happen. It's going to happen. So aren't realistic... Okay, so... The interest of
United States is to support the only... Right. The only free democracy... The only... Yeah, the
free democracy protecting everyone is the sand monkeys. Yeah, I get it. I get it.
Okay, so you are basically saying that you do not imagine a future in which the so-called state of Israel
will be able to exist without dependence on the U.S.
We will be able to exist without United States.
They already exist without the United States. I told you when United States I decided
that she has nothing to do anymore with Israel. So you foresee at a certain
point in the future that it's possible that Israel be self-sustaining and it
won't need the United States. Yes. Do you think that time could be now? Let's say
the US turns its back. Okay, okay. That's interesting. So who is fueling and supplying Israel's Iron Dome missiles right now?
Just out of curiosity.
Who invented? Who invented iron dome?
It doesn't matter. Who's supplying them with the reason. It is, it is, it is matter.
It is matter.
Well actually I invented it.
I invented Iron Dome.
Listen, listen, I, hold on, which phone are you using?
Which phone are you using?
Iphone?
Listen, I invented the Iron Dome?
You using an iPhone? Sir, please, please, I invented the iron dome. You're using an iPhone? Sir, please, please, I invented the...
The technology in the iPhone also made by the Israelis.
Right, Israeli... Is it an iPhone? Just let has speak.
Okay. Look how army is. I don't get why you guys are getting so acked up. Let him speak.
All right, so I actually invented the Iron Dome. Please give me like a few billion dollars
because it doesn't make a difference. I invented it. So just give me billions of dollars of missiles and we'll be fine.
I'm entitled to it because I invented it, right? Send me your F-18 and I'll put 7,000 modifications on it and send it back to you
and tell you how a plane is supposed to be.
So you're claiming that Israel somehow benefits the US with technology?
Oh, are you fucking joking now?
No, I, I, what you're saying is just...
Because you, because you Muslim Arabs have no clue what fucking technology is.
That's the point of thing.
You know what, you know what the Israeli intelligence invented? They invented Jeffrey Epstein.
When when the Jews gave you Gaza, which was a jewel, you fucking put it to pieces and
fucking turned it into some African country.
Benjamin Jeffrey Epstein is one of friends, the Democrat, right?
So let me continue, because I want to be clear about this.
You claim that if the U.S. turned its back on the so-called state of Israel right now,
Israel would be fine?
Is that your, that's what you believe?
But it wouldn't do that. But let's say it did. Would Israel be fine? Is that your, that's what you believe? But it wouldn't do that.
But let's say it did. Would Israel be fine and self-sustaining?
But let's not say it did, because that's not bullshit.
Okay, is Israel capable of being self-sustaining right now?
Against all you people?
Again, yeah, against He has been, against this is just, let's,
and yes. Okay, so Israel's going to use nukes, what would happen then? You'd all be dead.
So would Israelis.
Yeah, but then you then you won't be able to take you investing,
investment back from the island drone if these are.
Dude, we're never, we're never going to see the investment back. It's just as you're thrown away
Listen you cannot you cannot you in the one hand you really want to get back you investing
That it'll never happen you want to wipe Israel so you want no
no, I don't I don't , I don't decide before you want.
I don't think it's money back or what.
I don't think we can get back any sunken costs, but in the meantime, I would like to have
it so that all of the money that we give to Israel, we spend it on ourselves.
So that's what I believe.
But this is besides the point because this is about
the question of whether Israel can exist in the region in the long term. Now we've established,
you're kind of warming around it, but I think we've established pretty confidently that even
you admit Israel cannot survive without the United States.
So once we've established that, we have to ask the question. Has there ever been a state in history in
the long-term in a region that can survive so inauthentically and inorganically,
relying on a foreign power halfway across the world just to be able to have the necessary
security to subsist, every single one of the civilizations in the Middle East that are
indigenous to that land, they're what you call Lindy. Over thousands of years
they're tried and tested. They're firmly implanted in that soil. Every
ethnicity, every community, every sect, every religion is there because
they were tried and tested. They're compatible with their neighbors. There's a
cultural shared history with their neighbors and they've survived battles and wars and they've all come to a mutual
understanding with each other and they share a civilization. You somehow think that this fake
inauthentic artificial state is going to be able to survive at the expense of all of that? That's silly.
That's just silly. I have a question for you, Haas. I have a question. Free. From the
River Tidic, if Palestine will be free. From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.
Has?
You know, you don't think that you know, you know, think that you know, you see, I'm try,
but they have talking about like, you know, very, like, you know, diplomatic now, like, you know,
from the river to the sea free free
free Palestine no that's well actually I'm not one for slogans because here's
what I believe I believe I believe that the destruction of Israel is a matter of
gravity it simply will happen there's nothing you can do to prevent it. I don't need to have any slogans. I don't need to say anything. It simply will happen as a law of nature itself.
Yeah, for once for it. It's physics. I think you know I
It's basic science. I think I think for the end of the day after what happened now
I think something good must must happen after the terrible what happened to the beheaded babies okay now
you're gonna tell me prove it and stuff like this no the babies were beheaded
no I'm so like you know you know if you want to go about if you're talking about proof,
so they said like about 10,000 Palestinians got killed now.
I didn't say anything.
I just said 40-bys right?
I'm just stupid proof situation and I'm not, forget proof for now.
I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm trying not to go, I'm try not to go into this type of a path
because it's not gonna be end for that and I can have a conversation with you.
I think I'm fair enough conversation, you can have a nice conversation.
I think you should actually harp on this point.
You should because you try to draw an equivalency to the 10,000 killed in Gaza,
of which even the Washington Post doesn't contest, to the 40 babies. So putting...
I said it again.
Putting aside the question of proof, I just want to gauge your level of delusion.
Do you actually believe that 40 babies were beheaded by Hamas? It's just like yes
Rinal. Do you believe that? Yes. Okay. Do you really believe that or is it just
like do you really believe that or are you just joking? I do. Okay you believe that
as well. Uh, fries. How do I say your name? Fries? Okay, yeah.
I jump in. About, about the 40 beheaded babies. My name is Khaled. I'm Palestinian, I live in the United States.
You know, the White House walked back that story. They had enough sense to walk it back.
The Israelis stopped repeating that lie. But why is it that they had to talk about the beheaded
babies?
Well, because for the same reason, they have to talk about Hamas leaders hiding in the
UN-funded hospital, as if reigning chemical weapons as in
white phosphorus on that school will kill the Hamas leaders as if the Hamas
leaders were playing in the playground of that school that they had to.
But I think the reason they talk about beheaded babies and raped women and so on is because
these kind of arguments are precursors to committing war crimes.
You want to go and commit war crimes.
You have to demonize and dehumanize that group of people that would justify, at least
in the mind of the West, you would have to justify the killing of those people by demonizing them and
dehumanizing them. Basically, it is like in a horror movie. When a horror movie,
when you see a zombie, you know, you don't feel bad, nor do you feel guilty about
killing a zombie. And I think what they wanted to do, even in a horror movie,
you see a seven-year-old who is really cute with the dress
and braided hair and so on, but then you find out she's a zombie.
You go and you tell thatthat girl even though she's just very
cute and teeth and all of that, but because she's a zombie at the end of the day
if you don't kill the zombie, the zombie is going to kill you. So I think what they
try to do by talking about the beheaded babies is that they try to make Palestinians as zombies
so they can go and carpet bomb entire neighborhoods, they can bomb a 16-story building and then
turn it into smithereen. They bomb... Wait, who's a pedophile?
Who's a pedophile? Who's a pedophile? I was... I was... I was checking my DMs, I
wasn't listening. What, how's this guy a pedophile?
And that should justify, and then we heard the rhetoric coming out of the Israeli officials,
whether it is Nathen Yahoo talking about the Amalkites, where in,
seven year old, what, and Petit? What what do you talk do? What is this?
I wasn't listening to anything he's saying the babies and the infants and the woman and the even the animals and the donkeys
So we heard that rhetoric from today or yesterday from the cultural minister who talked about
lopping a nuclear bomb on Gaza.
We heard it from so many different Israelis.
Now the discourse in Israel is go and kill every living thing basically
reliving that biblical term so I believe that if you are so delusional to
think that the Palestinians went and beheaded 40 babies then you're really just trying to justify,
even in your own mind maybe, trying to justify the atrocities and the ethnic cleansing and
the war crimes that are being committed.
So if you want to go that path, I mean, that is fine. It is on you.
Thinking that you can live without the support of the United States, let me see how long
you would last in the Security Council with all the vetoes that the United States is using on your behalf.
Let me see why you can live without the $14 billion coming out of US tax papers,
but you don't need it, you just need this as kind of icing on the cake.
You don't need the F-35.
It doesn't matter who invent them.
It doesn't matter, you know, the microchips, 90% of microchips in the F-35 are made in
Taiwan, by the way. So the fact they invented it or they
manufacture it does not make them entitled to all of this military hardware, military support.
Without the support of the West, mainly the United States of America, you will not last
for six days.
One last point, and then I'll stop and listen to people's comments.
Basically Israel receives the largest U.S. military aid in the world.
Any country gives any other country.
The second recipient of that is Egypt.
When did Egypt get that?
When it signed a peace treaty with Israel, which means that we give Egypt the second largest military aid so
that it can have peace with Israel, i.e., we give you military aid provided you keep the
peace with Israel.
Which third, the third largest recipient of U.S.
military aid in the United States, the largest in the world, the third largest in the
world basically, is Jordan. When did Jordan start receiving it, when it got guarantees that it will have
peace with with Israel.
So the United States is sustaining Israel with the largest military aid.
So wait, so the Parliament is United States?
Well, well, I mean, you were saying that...
So, so, so the part... Wait, do you think, whatever, let's say whatever you said just now was this true,
that Israel would not be able to stay for one second after the United States will stop supporting Israel?
Who is this problem? The problem is United States?
No, it doesn't, it's irrelevant. I mean, I think...
No, it is relevant. So you, you're Palestinian, you come live in the United States
and you have a Panama United States government.
I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what, I will be ready to go back, you know, talking about
from the, today I was in Channel 4 here and my local community because our Congresswoman
Rashid Atlab was saying that from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free and many
pro-Israel groups said that they were like, oh, horrified.
And they felt that it's adding salt to the wound and they feel really uncomfortable and
they feel threatened by Palestinians calling from the river to the sea, Palestine, be free.
And let me just tell you how absurd it is, that my father from the city of Tiberia, I
have the key to his house, and it is the house where he was born, the house where they
had my oldest brother, and for me to ask for that house, it will make some Zionist uncomfortable.
I say, get some fucking therapy if you're uncomfortable
with me asking for my father's house back when you're coming from New York
with a 3,000-year-old Bible saying that God gave you my house. I mean is that not absurd and and you're calling me that that I
Palestinian live in America. I was born in a refugee camp. I would rather go to Palestine tomorrow
if I am. Why don't you do that? Oh because I think the overall point here that's
we're trying to establish is that Israel's reliance on the United States is
unsustainable because it drags the US into wars that are not going to be popular among the American people.
But you don't explain one thing.
If we all so smart to say whatever you just said now, so how come United States doesn't stop
it?
Because the United States is going to get dragged into a regional war where it's going to get a really bad
No, no, actually it is not because of that. I believe
No, no, let me.
Let me, how's that a line of questioning and I think he was going to continue something
I think I would like your information was really valuable but has. I think Khaled like information was really valuable, but how's it continue on, man?
Yeah, I was just going to say, well, it doesn't seem like the US government is going to stop
any time soon, and that's going to lead us down the path of calamity.
We're going to get a really bad bloody nose because of the kind of regional war or worse
that Israel's going to drag us into.
We're in debt.
The U.S. system is not sustained.
I can talk endlessly about how the U.S. is unstable.
So it's a bigger picture. It's a bigger picture, it's like, it's something like you already...
Yeah, I mean, the background, generally speaking, the background behind this conflict especially
is the US unipolar system, which is collapsing.
The collapse of dollar hegemony, the collapse of the Bretton Wood system, the Petro
Dollar, and with that will come the collapse of the so-called state of Israel as well, which
is dependent on all those things.
See, so here I'd like to say something now. A couple of things actually. Mr Khalid,
yes, if America abandoned Israel it would be difficult for Israel absolutely.
They're never going to abandon Israel ever ever.
Furthermore, how many do you, how many do you, how many Hamas and Hisbola do you think have walked across the border in Texas
from the South and they're going to cause big problems in the United States?
Absolutely none.
I think you're, I think, I think what we're alluding to is the potential false flag attack that the US government and the CIA will
Will carry out in order to gain consensus from the US
population in America in America. It's not going to happen the one because
the American people in America
will do something like crazy to kill it right away. Same way that after 9-11
they destroyed Iraq totally and some other country and they don't give it them about anybody and they can be going to put like a bomb
Whatever they want and this is United States
I mean I I think you're kind of not paying attention to how US policy is driven by Zionist lobby and Israel and you're kind of just
saying this is the United States.
No, come on.
Okay, I just want to be clear about something.
All right, so people who speak up against Israel and
speak in favor of Palestine, which is their First Amendment right, we are seeing
these people getting blacklisted, we're seeing them getting censored, we're
seeing them getting fired from their jobs, we're seeing them getting docks, we're
seeing them getting harassed, making it difficult
to live here.
How is that possible, if not for the fact, that there is a huge amount of Zionist control
in place?
I mean, how would that be possible?
How's it?
Answer me this, how come when Saudi Arabia killed 150,000 Yemenis, and Assad killed
200,000 Iraqi Muslims, nobody fucking marched to the streets.
So without getting into the...
Let me finish.
Yeah, I'll respond to it though
Let me say but when but when but when Jews
Like defend themselves and
And kill a bunch of people
the whole world is fucking furious. I think I think one of the big differences we can just look at immediately, and I'm not going
to speak to the details because I don't buy the bullshit against Assad, but let's just
put it aside for now, right?
Assuming all that's true, I can speak out against Saudi Arabia Arabia and it will not affect my life in any way.
I can speak out against Assad and I'll be rewarded for it, right? But if I speak out against
Israel, suddenly my career is jeopardized. Suddenly I get censored. Suddenly, Zionist power comes crashing
down on me and I get labeled an anti-Semite and try to find out who is the Zionist powerful
that you're talking about. I don't know. Who is firing all of these people. I'm trying to do like you know quick research
let's say like George Soros is the guy. No no listen I think that the people that I think that a lot of a lot of
institutions in the United States have made it very difficult to be pro-Palestine.
And I think everyone...
What are you talking about? Most of those universities that allow the poor Palestinian to do all this protests and everything.
I can give you a concrete example of what you're asking.
Okay, so a few years ago, there was a few states that wanted to make it illegal to participate
in BDS.
And in those court hearings, a delegation from the Israeli embassy was literally invited to sit in
on them.
Not only that, but they helped write the argument in favor of the law that the judge was
deciding on.
So, you know, you literally have foreign representatives
of government sitting in and playing a major
influential role in the US judicial system
when it comes to the BDS.
And I'd think to that if I may.
And by the way, that was run by Abby Martin in that court case and the lawyer was Maravon
Hayden Hilliard.
So if you have any questions. Let me, let me, I'll let you speak. I just
want to make one point. I will let you speak. 20 seconds, I'll let you speak. Just a second.
Listen, A-PAC is the biggest lobby in the US, which controls all the politicians.
95% of politicians that win election in
Senate, Congress, and even the presidency are funded by APEC. APEC is a
foreign agent, okay, and they have one priority in mind and that's Israel first.
So if you're not Zionist, you have no chance of winning office in the US.
And guess what?
That also applies to the deep state
where you have the likes of Victoria Newland
that are running around with their crazy foreign policy
and making a mess of the world.
And I'm gonna pass it on. Okay, thanks.
Can I can I just get one thing in before Caudid? I can get one thing in before
Harid? Yeah, a moron, there's a there's a March tomorrow, March at the Vancouver Art Gallery. Will you join us tomorrow, Paulistine, March at the Vancouver Art Gallery.
Will you join us tomorrow?
I can give you a Palestinian flag.
Okay.
You call me moron?
Well, yeah, you are a moron.
Can we just bring it back to house?
Because I think he was still continuing with Benjamin and Ferrari.
Who was that talking?
It's alright, it's alright, Doran, don't worry about it.
I mean, no one, it's team, they're taking it easy.
Tim is like, it's a nice guy, it's a nice guy.
Tim?
Let me, let me just say about the VDS.
You know, there are 35 states in the United States
that has passed legislations that either forbid or outlaw
or punishes any activity to boycott Israel,
which means 78% of the American people live in states with such legislation.
In America, where the first amendment of the Constitution is freedom of expression.
So you have freedom of expression to boycott Jesus Christ, but you don't have the freedom to boycott Israel.
At least in 35 states where 78% of the American people live.
So that is one thing, but is that because the Jews are so powerful?
Yes, I think the Jews happen to be powerful and very influential financially in many other ways. But I also believe because
of America's complicity, America, America as the institution, America as the
country, the deep state, if you will, America is, I think, is partner with Israel
in its crimes against the Palestinian people. America is a partner with Israel
in the ethnic cleansing because it serves America's interest. Having tension in the Middle East makes it so
part so much so possible to have puppet regimes like CCC in Egypt and
Ibn Saoad in Saudi Arabia and the UAE that has just basically have become an office of the
Mossad in Abu Dhabi and so on and so forth. So I don't believe that the Zionist
control America. I think there is a partnership of criminality that is going on
between the Israelis and the Americans where the Israelis do the bidding of
the United States to keep control of this really very strategic area of the
world where there's a lot of energy, a lot of oil and all kind
of things.
So they have served them for 75 years, started with the British and the Americans.
The British kind of faded away, handed over to the Americans and this is a partnership that is ongoing.
I just don't believe that.
Khalid.
Yeah, it is only just because Americans are victims of the Zionists.
I think they're partners hand and a glove.
Khalid, I want to ask you a question like just a little bit off the topic.
Let's take Jordan, the country, the Jordan state.
Why this Jordan cannot make their country better financially and people make more money
and other stuff like this?
Why it's like so low income, there is no development why it's the same yeah it's the same
reason that Egypt a country that used to have more income per capita than than South Korea and Japan actually.
Japan modeled its educational system after the Egyptian system after World War II.
So it is the same reason that Egypt is one of the poorest countries now in the world, the
same reason we haven't had any democracy because I think American hegemony in
the Middle East have made sure that only dictators are going to be installed and
continue to rule in the Middle East.
But that is irrelevant.
But you see what happened in Libya, with Gaddafi, that when the United States decided that
he's going to go it off, they took him down in the end of the day.
Well, I think they take him down down in the end of the day.
Well, I think they take him down just like the Shah of Iran.
They took down also Mubarak.
When he no longer served their purpose, yeah, they took him down.
But that is really irrelevant right now, because the one who's committing the massacres, the one
who's committing the genocide against the Palestinians are the Israelis
with American weapons. And I think any conversation about well what about Jordan
and what about this what about that is really trying to change
the subject.
It's a diversion basically.
Just like you know now the controversy is oh from the river to the sea is making me nervous.
Get a therapy man. Don't't don't blame for your your fragile do you
believe do you believe the right of the state of Israel to be exist or you
prefer that the state of Israel would be wiped do you mean the right of Israel
to exist as an apartheid state? No, it doesn't.
Do you think that's... Israel is not apartheid, come on, let's not talk about it.
Okay, I want to, I have a question for this guy. Because what... Don't take my word for it.
Take the word of Vitselim. Take the word of Betselm. Take the word of somebody like
okay. Okay, okay. A part of an Israeli cannot be if a judge an Arab Israeli, Arab Israeli
judge could be in the Supreme Court and every and every Arab that they have Israeli citizen wait and then I'll tell you in
in South Africa is they were talking in South Africa they were they were they were
judges who were they were okay come on theythis. They have like almost 18 seat in the
Knesset. What are you talking about? They're always. Guys, we really can't rehash whether or not
Israel is an apartheid state. It's basically agreed upon. So, so,
Haas, why don't you give us your opinion on what Khalid was saying, especially,
I think he was talking about, you know, the American people are sort of being
represented by Israel to some extent in the region.
So I guess I'd like your response to that.
I think I disagree with that to an extent, if that's what he meant.
I think that the American people not only do not gain any benefit whatsoever from the support of Israel,
but are actually harmed significantly by it, right?
Just the fact that we have to get dragged into wars is probably,
I mean, the number one reason why it's a net harm to the American people.
But, you know, understanding Zionist power, I think he did bring up an interesting point
that I do agree with, which is that what we're dealing with is a cartel of an international ruling class. Zionism is not the only part of that.
It's one of the parts, which has circumvented our basic kind of the institution of the
American Republic. We have a constitution. We have an official government. We have
a history and tradition of statehood that's open and transparent, right? But on top of
that, there's this kind of international ruling class. Britain, United States, I would say Israel is one of the parts of that. South Africa used
to be part of it and so on and so on. And basically we have the rule of international capitalists in this country which has created, yes, a deep state.
NATO is a part of that, Ukraine is a part of that, or funding of Ukraine, the interest there.
And basically this has hijacked our country.
And we have the veneer of a US government, of the sovereign country of the United
States, but we don't have any real Westphalian sovereignty. America has no real sovereignty,
right? So I don't think Zionists are the only ones in power. I just think Zionism is a proxy for this kind of power, just like
apartheid South Africa was, just like these various dictatorships we propped up during the
Cold War were. I agree with that. And support for Israel is a clear example of something that is artificially propped
up and only to the benefit of the ruling elites and it's a proxy for the deep states agenda
in this country.
Excuse me, I don't think America goes into war because of Israel.
America goes into war because of-
You're right, you're right.
America in general, right.
America in general goes to war on behalf of the interests of a very specific oligarchy, right?
Rich people, yeah. An oligarchy, right? 100%. But Zionism is a pet project of
that same oligarchy. So we do go to war, we do go to war, excuse is the word to use. Excuse, no, we do go to war, we do go to war, excuse is the word to use, excuse.
No, we do go to war for Israel because Israel is a part of that interest, that
international ruling class interest, right? So it's not the, it's not... If they let Israel die, die if they let Israel die they would completely lose control of the Middle East in
In such a way that they would have to
Yeah, nuclear war on the Middle East to get well what would probably
By the way Biden said that if
we don't have Israel we should create Israel. So I mean I think Biden I think
Biden was... I think I think how's this question was and Doran I appreciate your
transparency so I think him talking about the geopolitics
of the interests of Israel within the Middle East is a really important conversation to have.
So I think like that question, line of questioning and response to you go, Doran, gives me an understanding.
I think you've said
it a few times Arab Muslims, Arabs generally and Muslims around the world it
sort of gives me indicative of the geopolitics. Continue on has.
Yeah I would say that. Wait, one a second. What do you think about the Russia picture in this situation?
Okay, no, no, no, we're not changing the subject. So basically, basically, obviously we have a foothold in the Middle East for purposes of energy, right?
But I think at this point it shifted actually from just being about energy and, you know,
the oil crisis in 71 and so on in the history of Aramco.
I think it's moved beyond that and we are trying to, similar to how there's a front, now in Russia
there's a front against China, we are trying to repress a poll, a form of regional sovereignty
centered in Iran specifically in order to prevent the development of that region which could challenge
the monopoly of the Anglo-Saxon capitalist class, international capitalist class.
And I think that's really what we're dealing with.
It's a hegemony trying to protect its economic
monopoly, particularly economic monopoly. And Iran right now is really one of the only sovereign
powers or Poles, as I would like to say say that has the potential to actually
develop the region in a sovereign way. So at this point I you know I think
historically support for Israel did not become on the basis of some kind of
calculating interest of American geopolitics.
I think it really was a pet project, a colonial project for the British Empire originally
to maintain a foothold in that region.
I think gradually we throughout the Cold War we saw all sorts of
different interests define US foreign policy but I don't think there was total
control of the deep state like you see now. Now at this point you know we have
this international oligarchy which is is doing everything it can to prop up the
state of Israel to kind of fulfill an agenda the full scope of which I don't
think we even know right but it's definitely part of that I would like to ask
your question I don't even know who we've been talkthat. I would like to ask you a question.
I don't even know who we've been talking, but I would like to ask you a question.
Do you think that the Iranian people love their government?
I think the majority of them prefer the government they have to the alternatives that are on the table.
I have to interject. I have to interject.
Oh my.
Okay, I'm going to say, I'm just going to say to everybody. Good night. It was nice to talking to you.
And uh, sure. Sure. Ma. Ma? So. I was nice to talking to you and uh... How does I want to be good news?
Sure.
Ma?
So, how could you say though.
Good night.
Doron, Doron,
yeah.
Before you go, please, I've been wanting to talk to you for just five minutes Talk to me get it more on
Nico just wants to interject on the Iranian point then you can yeah yeah yeah let let me
about Iranian I feel back because for how I really had his hands off 30 minutes now. I don't know you want me still answer?
Yeah. Yeah, I've actually been here for like three hours just listening and
There was an interesting thing that has said. He said, they appreciated the American people
and also a certain group of oligarchs.
So what's happening here right now is that the American people, their thinking has shifted.
And this is why you're seeing, you know, massive protests against what the oligarchs are trying to impose on them.
If this was 20 years ago, there was a possibility that the
American people would have supported Israel enormously. Because I don't know if you get what I'm saying because what the playbook has
been the same, they just recycled it over and over again. There was also something
that has asked Doron. He asked, do you believe that 40 babies were beheaded?
I know I know some people are like, I want to talk about that. I don't want to talk
about Doron said yes. And according to my assessment, I've said this in a
previous space that I've been in. With that logic, I am starting to
believe, or I actually believe, that Hamas never went in on the side of Israel with an intention to massacre or to kill anyone.
And so I'm also relating that to the survivors that said that people started dying only when the IOF or IDF came and there was a crossfire.
However, let's also go to another, you know,
let me tell you something else you should think about. We all know about a civilian, IDF
civilian that was held hostage, the guy, the soldier, Gilad.
And Gilad, when they were giving, when they were swapping, someone's all prison.
The Israel gave someone's all given him orapped 1,027 Palestinians for one Israeli soldier.
And this is one of the calls for Prism.
They were trying to project an image that 1,000 Israelis is worth 1,000and Palestinians. Now with that logic, if you are Hamas and you've
already known that, you know, Israel has over maybe 10,000 prisoners, sorry, or people that
they have abducted and put in the jail cells. When you get a chance
to get or to get maybe 20 Israelis or even 200 Israelis, you do not murder them or you don't kill them because you know they are worth
more to you when they are alive. Put it in mind first that earlier they said one IDF or one Israeli is worth a thousand
Palestinians. So there is no reason whatsoever that you could give that can
justify that Palestinians came in and killed the civilians.
Number two, the idea when they say that the Palestinians are using human shields.
Now, you can't say that the Palestinians want to kill Jews, all of them, and at the same
time say they are using their people as human shields. If they want to kill all Jews, all they
have to do is to get your own civilians and use them as human
shields because you've already said they want to kill them. So if they want to
kill them, why would they take them as civilians? That's number two or number
two. Number three, the idea of you thinking that carpet bombing and
killing a four-year-old whole family somehow only inflicts fear is wrong.
Because in my opinion, if you bombed my family and I survive,
I do not develop love for you. I resent you.
So whoever is giving Israel, there was...
We're getting a master class in every single pro-Palestine argument ever
in history
all pro palestine arguments volume one
again everything for the moment
to cleans the palestinians
how number one the minister of justice? Number one, the Minister of Justice, I think Minister of Defense,
or he was given the position after shooting a Palestinian. And then there is this
people just left the space. 50 people left the space.
Netanyahu after she wrote on Facebook that the land of Gaza should be given to Israelis,
which means, and I want to give you an example, if I was a doctor and you know that every
time I touch a patient, that patient dies. If you are the
own of the hospital and hire me to work in your hospital, you are directly or indirectly
saying that you are okay with patients dying in my hands.
If I go on way off topic, you're going way off topic, way off tangent, and we're not here for a monologue.
This is a meaning. But you know, but you know too far. Yeah, but, but 30 seconds to bring it to land it and they're gonna move yeah
Yeah, yeah my idea what I was trying to say is
Doron was trying to deflect and you know and other people who keep on bringing these arguments to
vindicate or demonize Palestinians.
I'm only trying to tell you that because of the past, because of everything that you have
done, we already know who the liar is, and we know that we need the people of Palestinians more than
they need us because they have put their lives on the line to fight for their
land and for the truth and we won't stop and we won't give up on them. I want Nico to give his argument, because I do believe the majority of people in Iran,
not the few, not some metropolitan elites in Tehran, but the actual majority of people in Iran support their
government and that's my view but I want you to be able to respond to that.
I'm gonna head off to a barbecue. Nico's a joke just to let you know anyway but
Kaz Didi you guys are legend, Benjamin
Legend, Truth, awesome.
Durant, I hate, I love the fact that you openly declared how much you hate Muslims, Arab
Muslims and I love the fact that you talked about you're going to destroy West Banker
Gaza.
Like that tells the people inside the exact mentality of Zionists that are living in
Western countries.
In any case, we all know that when the state of Israel was created, the entire international
world including all the Jewish communities, never wanted it to be created and I'll leave you on that have a great night guys by
Timmy boy has anybody ever told you you talk too much?
No because he always tells the truth
Okay, so yeah, please uh, highs and Nico go for it on Iran. Oh, okay, so yeah, please? Oh,as and Nico, go for it on Iran.
So Haas, I keep it real short, hands are up.
So you know and I know there's really no way of measuring percentage-wise how many people support the Islamic regime.
However, in the Iranian diaspora, you clearly see that people did not support the regime.
Now, if you're in the U.S., you can hit the streets running from New York, Texas, to Cali, and
you could ask around and you'll know people do not support the regime.
However, inside of Iran right now, okay, if people protest, I think somebody's mic is
open, I think it's door-on, if I'm not mistaken.
Right now, in Iran, right, as far as the regime, whenever people take to the streets to demonstrate against the revolution that we have for the past year. They either
get shot in the eyes or they get arrested and everything else. So there's really
no way of telling, right? But from what I know, being an Iranian-American, right, I
could reassure you that the majority do not support the Islamic regime
Is that a fair enough answer?
Yeah, I mean, I don't, yeah, I know the diaspora is not fan of
of Islamic Republic.
Most of them fled because they benefited from the Pahlavi dynasty.
So obviously those guys do not support the current government.
But I think the majority of people living in Iran, you know, they may
have criticisms, but overall I think they support the Islamic Republic as opposed to alternatives,
you know. And the reason I think that is because I don't think that government would be viable or sustainable for so long
if the majority of people were against, there has to at least be a sizable, huge population of mass support.
Because, you know, there's so much pressure they're under
sanctions they're under siege all the time it's not like for example Egypt or
Jordan or like some Middle Eastern dictatorship where like dollars are just
propping them up just like pure support from like foreign
powers, you know.
So when you're in the hot seat, and the Islamic Republic is in the hot seat geopolitically,
and it has been for decades, you need the support of your people as your lifeline.
If you don't have that, I couldn't see how they could have survived for so long.
How's, if I could say this, okay, going back to 19, Khalid, I think your mic is open Khalid.
How's, if you look at it this way, going to 19. It's all right brother. No worries
Going back to 1979 harmony right he was never elected
He was planted there by the US France
I see lucinar she's giving fingers down already, Lucinia, we know
you support the Islamic Republic regime.
That's fine.
However, the Western government's planet Jomene in power. When he passed away, Ali Khamene, mind you,
was always also in prison, right? So then he came to power. So if he was elected
Ali Khamene, which is the supreme leader, what I recall himself right now,
why did they attempt to kill him so many times?
Hence, his right arm is a fake arm because once the planet, a bomb at at his desk and he lost his hand.
So right now he's still in power.
So taking it to the past year, there's been a revolution.
So if you are for the people and they elected you,
then why would you shoot the young people in their eyes?
Why would you imprison thousands of people?
If you have nothing to worry about, right, and if people support you in Iran,
then why treat your own people like this?
So to the extent of my knowledge of the facts I've been presented with and the research I've seen.
A lot of these narratives about the protests and about the, you know, the, what was it, the
the woman freedom, whatever protests, that this was many this was synthetic and manufactured and the
stories of women being shot in the eyes and stuff were lies but I'll let Ruslan speak to it because
well has yeah if I could say this I'm sorry yeah people have their hands up
so you said people getting shot in the eyes and things like that or fake that's
what you said right I'll let Ruslin speak on the details but I have I have pictures
I could prove it if you like I could DM you pictures and then you can see it for you.
So, go for it, Russlyn.
Well, yeah, again, Prism, Ruslin has more of the like exact details on the allegations and stuff,
but everything I've been presented with and seen, I'm pretty convinced that this is just
smears and lies against the Islamic Republic, but prison, go ahead, take it away.
I can talk if you want, and I agree with Nico. I think that the House is completely indoctrinated by all the
bullshit. Okay, please go ahead and there. Yeah I thought the turn was for for
Ristlan not for Doran. Anyway, so we want to speak then we can. Yeah, Ruslan, please go ahead.
Yeah, I was going to say, I don't really know where to begin,
since these are all just fabrications and allegations he made without any evidence.
So he has to kind of present his argument. Rus Lant, just for you, I will go ahead and post all the atrocities for the past year in the space chat.
So you can look at it.
All right. So instead of debating semantics, let's focus in on one specific thing, regardless.
Benjamin, I guess we should.
I guess we should start at the very beginning.
Please, please let me go ahead.
I guess we should start.
Well, you twitch some.
My mother.
Okay, so do you thinkitched them. My mother. Massa Amini.
Okay, so do you think, do you know what pictures is?
I do.
I understand. I also understand that the U.S. government was funding all sorts of arms being delivered
and ISIS court us on and all of that in relation to the protests to aid the protest.
So you know further than that let's go to the beginning. Massa Amini, right? was Nico. Do you
believe that she was killed by the Iranian government or do you think that she died of
health conditions? Benjamin, your first mistake is you don't even know how to
pronounce Iran. It's not Iranian, right? It's Iranian, right? That's the first
thing. Oh he's an American dude, who cares? Well, I care, Russeline. How about that?
Yeah, I can.
But we're talking about, we're talking about the death of a young woman.
So why don't you go ahead with that?
Right, so the fact is, again, I can show you video and pictures that she was murdered.
There's even footage of her in custody when she passed away.
I could send it to you, Benjamin, rather than me going back and forth.
No, I mean, I've seen the footage you've, you're referencing and it doesn't show her being,
and shows her just collapsing on the floor, but Ruthen, or high. you're referencing and it doesn't it doesn't show her being BNAS show her
just collapsing on the floor but okay so let me ask you go ahead and respond to
Nico again I'm just here and the question hold of you asked me questions let me
ask you a question let's be fair right you ask me a question let me
ask you a question let me ask you a question and I think Samir O'Conn is Pakistani so I can't wait to listen to
her so Benjamin my question to you is right my question to you is when she
was in the hospital right what calls her to end up in the hospital?
That's my question to you, Benjury.
She had a chronic heart condition.
Okay, all right, that's fine.
Can you show statements or records of that?
Yeah, the autopsy report actually goes. That's fine, excellent. So there's about
a thousand people, excuse me, nine hundred seven people in here. You just said that you have
proof of records to show it was something related to the heart.
So I will wait for you to send that to me.
Fair enough.
Do you have that at your disposal by any chance?
Do I have what?
The records that it was a heart failure and stuff?
Yeah, I do. Okay. So Roslyn, send it to me right now, thank you.
Okay, guys, let's move on from Masa Amini. So let's come back to Palestine, Israel.
May I? Okay, we haven't heard from Samir at all. Give her a shot to speak. speak and it has do you have any more question you want to do with Dorn
No, I think I'm pretty satisfied and actually good timing because I actually do have to go now
But I really appreciate it great space and we should do more of these because I had a lot of fun
Absolutely, listen I followed you. I can't DM you though, so just message me back great space and we should do more of these because I had a lot of fun.
Absolutely, listen I followed you I can't DM you though so just message me back
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May I you bring Jackson on one day too. Yeah, yeah, for sure if I'm gonna be
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