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Yeah.
Some die.
She got his ass beat.
15, glee in my drawers.
I'm a lost cause.
Niggas couldn't see me from the hip.
And I got pause.
Hit scenes.
Ask them where they're from.
Bet they all pause.
Niggas that I'm with my look soft, but they all dogs.
Hot sauce.
Tryna eat the human when I lock draws.
Rock stars.
They didn't even rap.
I rock y'all.
Talking to the pigs.
Get y'all niggas fuck with hot dogs.
Bing gang bang.
Who the fuck is all these hot balls?
Keep it Charlie.
I don't wanna hurt nobody, nigga.
I'm just tryna catch a vibe where a body up.
Keep it Charlie, bitch.
I got a chop on me.
Go want, woman, want, want, and flip the whole party up.
Never saw me fold a nigga or a gamma.
Niggas say he got a time, he should've shot it when he saw me.
Should've spooky in the room, probably fuck her in the lobby.
I'm a gang member, bitch, so you know I got it on me.
Uh, Coney, I don't do the hem or do say.
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Been tryna kick it like a first name, Lupe.
I do say my brother got a song on 2K.
I travel past, take your ass home with your traveling ass.
Conan got a cougar, put the 40 in her fanny bag.
I'ma have to kill him if he sing with your jagged ass.
Cherry clan, cherry air slide with your ganglin nigga.
Bitch, please think before you speak or get bitch slack.
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Hundred some shells, drown the nigga while they dispatch.
Shoot first king, never lie, I was whip strap.
D-Rehella geekin', Jody clutching the cobra.
Fleet to blow a nigga whip up like shook up soda.
YG move me, tryna move a little cold.
All this paper on the nigga got me feeling like a fodder.
Uh keep it Charlie, I don't wanna hurt nobody, nigga.
I'm just tryna catch a vibe where a body up.
Keep a charlie, bitch, I got a chop on me.
Go want, woman, want, want, and flip the whole party up.
Never saw me fold a nigga or a gamma.
Niggas say he got a time, he should've shot it when he saw me.
Should've floated in the room, probably fuck her in the lobby.
I'm a gang member, bitch, so you know I got it on me up.
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Echos verdades y casualidades.
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Serotas y tracatos accidentales.
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Na yanadi como tΓΊ, yamo.
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Ay muchas preguntas, y po catres puesta.
Ay gente valientre, gente coniedo, gente que el bundo no les importombledo.
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I'm not sure if I can do it.
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I'm under a disclosure, NDA.
I can't repeat them.
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Guys, I'm going to be debating today.
Uh D and D geopolitics.
They're holding a space and apparently there's some Zionists in there and it's fresh meat is what I like to call it.
Fresh meat.
Hot take.
I see you, I recognize you, and I appreciate you.
Guys, let me tell you something, okay?
Let me tell you guys something.
Hazaldin is starting to get mentioned and shit, right?
The Jewish Chronicle.
I don't know what this means.
The Jewish Chronicle.
And we're going to just go ahead and check out what's going on.
It's just madness all around.
We're going to go ahead and review this.
Then we're going to go ahead into the debate, okay?
So, by the way, guys, I'm getting a haircut tomorrow.
Pretty exciting.
I gotta look my best for the Timcast appearance.
Um so guys, here's the thing, right?
Here's the thing.
So this is an article that was released about Jackson.
Alright?
Article released about Jackson.
Jay Summit!
What's up?
Um
Jay Summit is the studio producer for the songs I've released.
I've released a few songs, been in the studio.
You know, Jay Summit's helping me with the technical stuff, the microphones, the audio, and all that.
But yeah, I've if you check the channel, the Haas channel on YouTube, there's a lot of songs I've been singing in my spare time.
I've become a somewhat of a musical artist myself, exploring the fine arts of music.
So, yeah, check that out.
Anyway, guys, yeah, by the way, I'm going to be in Washington, D.C.
this week.
This I'm not going to tell you the exact date.
I'll tell you when I tell you.
I'm going to be live streaming in Washington, D.C.
as well, and I'm going to be in Washington, D.C.
I'm gonna be there, okay?
So uh we have some exciting stuff.
We look forward to.
But anyway, guys, the Jewish Chronicle.
Um who is Jackson Hinkle?
Twitter's most viral misinformation spreader and anti-Israel activist.
The MAGA Communist has repeatedly been banned from social media after spreading fake news.
Now, first thing we have to notice about this article Woman Moment You know, straight up
This gives us a new perspective, straight up.
This is the only thing you need to like know to the to to is an introduction, all right.
So that's the first thing we're gonna take note of.
Second thing,
In two thousand eight, Jackson Hinkel was in high school.
In the six years since he has been banned from WhatsApp because of Zionists like yourself, YouTube, Ditto, PayPal, Ditto, Twitch, because of CIA people like yourself for spreading misinformation.
No, I think he just was banned because he said things people in power don't like.
There's no objective criteria of mis I'm I'm just you know guys arguing with a woman is a lot like arguing with a bird outside.
Imagine a bird just comes on your deck.
Comes on your porch and just starts chirping.
And then you go outside and you start arguing with the bird.
The bird's like, chirp, chirp.
And you go outside and say, no, I mean, actually, really, you'd look stupid.
Anyone passing by would think you're an idiot, right?
So it's the same shit.
I mean, what am I going to argue with?
You can't.
Anyway, let's continue.
There's nothing to argue with, right?
But um to continue.
Uh let's see what we are getting.
Um
Uh babies were never beheaded and Israeli soldiers were taken to morgues by Hamas.
Wait, are they saying babies are beheaded still?
I can't keep up with this.
It's fucking crazy.
Um his politics are confusing.
He's a God-fearing Marxist Leninist, just like Zyuganov in Russia.
He doesn't see any issue with his conservative Marxism.
It's always been conservative.
I mean, this is facts.
Like, yeah, the Eastern, the Warsaw Pact was socially conservative.
People are like, well, the DDR, there was some legislation that was passed so that people didn't go to jail for being gay or whatever.
And they had gay marriage in 1980 or something.
It's like it doesn't matter what laws you have on the books if your society is conservative.
Like, we're talking about society.
We're not talking about pieces of paper.
Okay, second of all, dude, guys, can you believe this shit?
I'm not even going to show because of how fucking stupid it is.
But I saw the most delusional thing the other day.
I saw these leftists who are like everyone who's spreading the thing that um Palestine is conservative, they're lying.
Palestine is pro-LGBT because in nineteen fifty one,
Um sodomy was legal.
in Palestine and it's the Israelis who made it illegal again.
Like, I was so profoundly shocked when they said that because they found some, like,
Some weird source that said that it was same-sex relationships were not banned by law in 1951.
Then I looked into it, and it turns out this was under the Jordan, Jordanian Hashemite monarchy.
It wasn't Palestine.
There was no Palestinian sovereignty during that time.
And yeah, I mean, I guess they didn't punish it legally, which is not that uncommon.
Not every country throws people in jail for sodomy, but that doesn't say anything about the values of your society.
It doesn't say anything about what society thinks.
It doesn't say anything about what's accepted on a social level.
It just means on a piece of paper, you know, if a policeman.
Walks in on you doing something, I guess you're not going to jail by the state.
Okay, I mean, that doesn't, but but if the village finds out what you're doing, you're probably going to be ostracized at the bare minimum, right?
I mean, honestly, it's just delusional, like it's just fucking delusional, all right?
Like, straight up.
Like, okay.
I'm not one for the divisive stuff.
If LGBT people want to fight against Zionism, you know, I'm not going to knock on that.
I wish they would have done the same when it came to support for Ukraine, but whatever.
You know, I'm not going to say that's wrong.
I'm not going to say that they can't do that.
But don't sit here and just straight up lie and be delusional about Arab culture or whatever, or Muslim culture.
Like, don't straight up and just lie to the world and just spread lies that are so obviously wrong.
It's just going to embarrass all of us and make Zionists look like they're on the side of truth when they're not.
All right.
Straight up, like that's so fucking delusional.
I couldn't even believe that.
Anyway, let's continue.
It's not just Marxism which has been corrupted.
It's the American government.
That's such a fringe thing to think that.
Can you think?
Guys, could you believe?
That the American government could have been corrupted, that is so far out.
Okay, so this is the part w that we're focussing on, right?
This is the part we're focusing on here because I didn't come here to just cover Jackson.
I came here to I was summoned.
All right.
Haz Aldin has been summoned.
And this is the one paragraph.
I'm so happy about it, by the way.
He isn't the only MAGA communist tying contradictory beliefs together.
Okay, this is what is wild.
Contradictory beliefs are being tied together with a common thread of anti-Semitism.
So according to this woman
Keep that in mind, you know.
Float b
Expectations, right?
But according to this woman, um
The thing that ties together my beliefs is Jews.
It's all about Jews.
Jewish people are the center of my universe.
Like MA communism, it was all about Jews somehow.
It's all about Jews, right?
It's the the common thread is anti-Semitism.
Um, the common thread between MAGA and communism, it's not, you know, counter-hegemonic populism, it's not, you know, working class blue-collar politics, it's not opposition to the warmongers or anything like that, it's really anti-Semitism.
Um, I kind of just feel like this is just Zionist ideology that's projecting this.
Like, Zionists look at MAGA and they're like, oh my god, this is a threat to Zionism.
As Zionist as MA's leaders are.
Can I make a prediction, guys?
Six months from now, MAGA is either not going to be a populist movement anymore, or it's going to be anti-Zionist.
No, put that on the record.
Six months ago six months from now, Israel's gonna be seen as the new Ukraine.
Or MAGA will die as a populist movement, right?
One or the other.
Six months from now, put it on the record.
And it is it's so obvious if you just think about it.
Like why is there a commitment to Zionism?
It's so fake.
It doesn't square with the populism.
Doesn't square with the see MAGA is always late.
But there's always a trickle-down effect with Mago populism.
Like, the Ukraine stuff was a little late at first.
They were all Russia's bad.
And there's always this kind of trickle-down effect where eventually they realize, oh shit, we're being lied to.
Yo, Blackpack.
They are no different than the far-right morons who think everything is about the Jews.
Really?
Yeah.
It's true.
Blackpack.
Guys, Hazal Deen, a Marxist-Leninist YouTuber.
Is that all I am?
I'm not really a YouTuber.
I'm more of a political philosopher.
I actually I would actually like to be addressed by my proper title.
Hazal Deen, a political philosopher.
And a comedian, a comedian and political philosopher.
Address me by my proper title, okay.
Hazal Deen, a comedian and political philosopher.
which is my common which is my proper title called for workers striking to come together with the MAGA industrial working class in parentheses.
We kick out the globalists, he said.
We kick out George Soros.
Two obvious dog whistles for Jews, okay?
Two obvious dog whistles.
For Jews, like Bill Gates, the biggest Jew on earth,
and Claus Schwab, another giant Jew.
Mega Jew Claus Schwab, Mega Jew Bill Gates.
You know, clearly a dog whistle.
It's not only a dog whistle, as a matter of fact.
It's the whole it's not just the dog whistle, it's the whole damn dog megaphone over here, all right?
We kick out the Globalists, we kick out George Soros.
We're obviously talking about the Jews here.
Straight up so obvious.
Um anyway
Um
That is
That is all we got as far as my mention.
But why
So, this is it.
I'm happy about this, though.
I got a whole paragraph dedicated to me.
And the common thread is anti-Semit- okay, got it.
Because globalists and George Soros, so that's the common thread of anti-Semitism, apparently.
If you crit yeah, if you criticize the ruling class at all, you're really talking about Jews.
You know, it has to you either either be subservient or you hate Jews.
That's the only choice.
Anyway,
I'm reading hold on.
Jackson Hinkle isn't the only one profiting to promote his own hatred of the Jewish community.
This is so s what so Jackson.
Is doing this because of his hatred for the Jewish community?
Did Jackson get a burnt bagel or something when he went to a bagel shop and he just got a burnt bagel and now he's got a vendetta?
He's at war with the Jewish community.
What happened?
Everything changed.
Ever since we decided to be misogynistic and transphobic.
It just became about Jews right away.
Like, I love this thing.
Like, everyone's like, oh, Jackson's a Nazi.
Oh, how is he a Nazi?
Well, I mean, like, he's super transphobic, for one.
And it's like, ah, transphobia.
The Hallmark
Uh telltale sign.
of Nazism in particular, right?
You know, it's gotta be that.
It couldn't be anything else.
Um you know.
The founders of every major religion.
Jesus was a Nazi.
I mean, the prophet of Islam was a Nazi.
Everyone's a Nazi.
Like, Gandhi was a Nazi, you know?
Actually, that's probably true.
Um, but if I you know, better example, like
MLK was a Nazi.
You want to know why MLK was a Nazi?
I'm going to tell you why.
Because.
If MLK brought a woman to his hotel room,
She takes off her dress and actually there's a whole dick.
Pretty sure he'd be scared.
Pretty sure he'd be a little frightened.
So MLK is also transphobic, therefore he's also a Nazi, right?
How am I wrong?
Am I wrong about this?
Am I wrong about this?
I mean, Mother Teresa, probably.
You know, the Pope.
Actually, yeah, the Pope.
Everyone knows that he's religious.
But, you know, who's somebody these people like?
Um.
Native Americans, a native tribal chief.
Imagine a native tribal chief minding his business, smoking tobacco, doing whatever they do.
You know, he's just sitting around minding his business, and you know, he's doing the equivalent of he's like bringing the hose over, basically, right?
And one of them.
Straight up.
has a penis.
Pretty sure he'd be scared.
Therefore he's a Nazi.
Right.
Think I'm getting this right.
I think I'm getting this right.
Everybody's a Nazi.
Uh anyway, uh let's let's continue.
I feel like they're like um do they're doing this thing where they're like lumping him in with all these other people he has nothing to do with.
Uh okay, let's continue.
He's the kind of guy who gives you hope about the future, the then environmentalist.
Hinkle may still be fearless, pretty
Pretty pretty good compliment.
Not bad.
But he is certainly no longer well informed.
Why not?
He also doesn't take politics seriously, admitting he does everything for the clout.
Where does Jackson admit this?
Let's see.
Okay, so guys
So, Jackson claims in this video that he does, you know, it's such a small world, everything crosses over, right?
So, Jackson claims in this video with renowned political analysts and commentators.
Clearly, that's the context.
I did it for the clout.
I do everything for the clout.
You will never see me do something not for the clout.
That's the only way I and this is Harley from Epic Mealtime.
It's such a small world.
Okay, so if you're not aware, this was not a political statement.
He was on a show and he was talking about something about girls.
I think it was about he hit up this girl.
Or he was flirting with some girl and he was putting her in her place by saying, I'm just doing this for my job, bitch.
I don't actually like you.
And like this got interpreted to mean that he's like doing all his political stuff for clout when all he was saying is like, I'm only on this dumb show with all these like normies for clout.
I'm doing it to grow my things I care about.
It doesn't mean he doesn't care about the actual thing he does, it just means he's not here to flatter women, he's here to grow his business.
I mean, the red pill translation is basically he's telling these women, I'm not here for you, I'm here to grow my business, right?
But somehow they took it out of context.
By the way, this guy, the Lego guy, I remember this guy.
This dude is like Jackson's number one stalker.
Like, Jackson's number one.
Like, this dude was up, like, his whole account was for Jackson.
Like, he clear fed, by the way.
Guys, a fed.
Actually, this guy got uncovered.
His face.
What does he look like again?
Straight up.
This guy, I saw it.
We know his face because his face got leaked.
Looks like the biggest faggot ever.
Straight up.
Like, he looks like such a pussy.
He looks like such a malformed, soy jack retard.
And I was like, damn, that's so pathetic.
But I think he was like a glowy Fed or he worked for some Fed NGO or some shit.
I don't fucking remember.
Now he looks like a skinny twerp.
But he's like a very angry Jackson stalker.
And you know what's creepy is this guy is like thirty or something or over thirty.
And at this time, Jackson's like, what, twenty one, twenty two?
And it's just like he's getting stalked by this creepy guy.
Who's like obsessed with him?
Either he was assigned to Jackson or he had a crush on Jackson.
Either way, it's pretty creepy, right?
Anyway, that was a woman moment.
That whole article was just a woman moment.
But here's the response.
Their their Twitter thing only got like
Forty-three likes, and then this was the response.
So, yeah, I mean, that's.
Guys, let's do this Twitter space.
All right, let's do this Twitter space.
Sue's Twitter space.
Joe, let's go.
Let's go.
And by the way, guys, do not worry about interrupting it.
This is not a serious one.
The Jackson one, I didn't want any interruptions.
Don't worry about interrupting this one, all right?
Don't worry about it.
So we're gonna get in to this space, start listening.
Situation.
Wait, who bombed the airport?
Who bombed the port?
Who besieged it?
No, okay, wait.
Who besieged Gaza?
Tell me, who just answer a question?
Who besieges Gaza right now?
Is Gaza free to import and export goods as they need?
How about
I mean the whole direction of the line of questioning and and let's just go into like understanding his mindset on certain things if if that's okay uh let me sorry sorry i just want to say it with one word hamas did not kill any civilian in gaza hamas is just only defensing the palate the israelian attack on gaza okay thank you so much that's guys just to tourist we get has doron and faraz just three of them engage amongst the conversations of faraz and has to engage with doron in whatever line of questioning they have because we hardly get has on the on the space as well and we all love him he's already here man
How about I can talk without being questioned?
Go ahead.
You want to unmute yourself and introduce yourself to everyone?
Haz?
Oh, yeah, I appreciate it, man.
I'm Haz Hazal Deen.
I've been a commentator on this conflict.
Comedian and political philosopher.
That's how I style myself.
So it's good to be here.
And I just want to state my position real quick.
I believe that Israel has no right to exist whatsoever.
So that's my position.
So there you go.
And what and how do you think Israel is going to feel about that?
Um, who cares?
They're gonna kill you.
What do you mean, who cares, dude?
They're gonna kill you, bitch.
They're not gonna kill me.
What are they?
How are they gonna kill me?
That's what the last guy said on the video I saw on the phone.
The Hamas guy on the phone.
I don't know if you guys have seen it on Twitter.
Now he's dead.
No, he's not.
I'm still, I've been laughing for a long time.
I'm gonna, I'm gonna laugh.
Doran, let me make you a promise.
Sorry.
I'm gonna laugh through the destruction of Israel.
It'll happen in my lifetime.
And I will laugh as it happens.
Duran, what's so wrong with having equal rights for everyone?
What's so wrong with treating everyone with respect?
What's so wrong with that?
No, no, there's no that is by itself goes against the Zionist supremacist ideology that the apartheid state that Israel is.
That itself contradicts your argument because that's what Israel stands for.
If you don't like me, go look in the indoctrination.
It calls for the supremacist regime.
See, as soon as you say the word apartheid, it gets my backup.
Okay, Doran, I'm going to state a fact and then I'm going to let Haas speak.
120 Israeli legal professors stated that Israel operates as an apartheid state.
I don't fucking think you're smarter than Israeli legal professors.
Yeah, you know what?
You do.
I don't fucking care what they say.
I'm allowed to have my opinion.
Like you are.
My opinion's wrong.
Anyway, Haas, I'll let you connect.
There you go.
Yeah, I'm just curious.
Duran, do you live in occupied Palestine?
What country do you live in?
I live in Canada.
Okay, you live in Canada.
So what we call people like you, your tethers.
You live in Canada, you live in America.
You're not even loyal to the country you live in, but you want everyone to sacrifice themselves for Israel.
Okay, so you are in opposition to me.
Where do you live?
The United States of America.
And where were you born?
This country, the one I'm standing in.
See, because I was born in Israel.
Okay, then why'd you flee?
Why don't you go die for Israel?
I left when I was four years old.
My parents left.
Why don't you hold on?
Why don't you go fight for the cause you believe in instead of having young Americans go die for this fake gay country?
What young Americans?
Yeah, the 5,000, the 5,000 minister.
Let him speak.
Let Haze and let Dora explain.
Let's be realistic.
This is going to end in two ways: either a ceasefire or a regional war.
Because the stated goal of the Zionist regime that they're going to eliminate Hamas will not happen without a regional war.
It just won't.
So either it's going to be a ceasefire or a regional war.
If there's a regional war, the U.S.
gets involved because of Zionist lobbyists, such as yourself, who have hijacked the U.S.
government and are forcing Americans to go give money and die for Israel.
So I think that's criminal.
Why should we prop up this country?
If it's such a real country, why does it need America to exist?
If it's such an organic country that can survive in the region, why does it need America?
If it's such a real country, couldn't it fend for itself somehow?
Against 1.4 or 1.8 billion Muslims.
How does that happen?
Who all want Jews to be dead?
No one's gone for Jews to be dead.
No one.
Like, where did you get that from?
Oh, please.
If Muslims want Jews to be dead, then why didn't they eliminate Jewish people throughout the thousands of years in which Jews have lived in Muslim civilizations?
You know what?
Nobody!
This is pretty well.
An impossible argument.
Re you got guys like Haz.
You got guys like Haas.
Oh, hang on.
How Dean, nice name by the way.
Um he lives in Texas, I believe.
Correct.
You probably you know what, we could probably be friends one day, but we b on opposite sides of a very weird situation.
I'm like a a Jew who whose history has been not great.
You know?
We've been hated fucking by everybody since the year dot.
I that's something I actually um disagree with.
I don't think Jews have been hated everywhere.
I think that okay, whatever I'd say.
Okay, go ahead.
So I feel we've been persecuted like by fucking everyone.
The Romans killed more Jews than Hitler did, by the way, just saying.
Um and so I am what I am.
I mean
Yeah, you're not really I don't I don't understand your point.
Like this whole narrative that like Jews are killed everywhere.
I mean like maybe for in Europe that was true because of the religious differences.
The Roman conflict was a religious and territorial conflict.
Rome uh Jews who lived in the city of Rome and Italy were not really persecuted until the arrival of I'm not talking about them.
I'm talking about yeah well I just think the narrative is just kind of wrong you can think whatever you want.
What what are significant examples of Jewish persecution by Muslims?
Uh Suleiman
Who invaded Israel back in the day?
Wait, wait.
What the what Muslim invaded Israel?
There was no Israel.
What are you talking about?
Okay, so so Muslim only started in six hundred, right?
Right, and uh by the time that Islam arrived on earth, there was no such thing as a kingdom or state of Israel.
It was Byzantine uh occupied.
So the so the so the Temple of Solomon was what?
Was destroyed twice.
But who, what was the Temple of Solomon?
Was that Kingdom of the Christian Temple?
No, no, the Temple of Solomon was destroyed.
It was rebuilt.
That was the second temple.
What religion ran the Temple owned the Temple of Solomon?
It was destroyed.
It didn't exist.
What religion?
By the time Islam arrived, there was no temple of Solomon, dude.
I don't know what to tell you.
It's like you're getting worked up over this.
Was Solomon not a Jew?
Yeah, but he was like, that was ancient history by then.
Oh, but yeah, so ancient history.
So that was fucking the land of the Jews back then, before you people even existed.
Well, technically, the Canaanites preceded the kingdom of Israel.
So that's actually wrong.
But like, whatever.
You know what?
We can argue this.
I'm an intellectual.
I'm not denying there was a historical kingdom of Israel, but history has.
So, you know, I don't really think that that's even relevant anymore, is it?
Exactly.
I don't think it's relevant.
So why are you talking about it?
Well, I didn't start it.
You did.
No, you said that.
No, you started it.
I'm the one who said that.
What's the history of persecution of Jews by because apparently this is not?
I know.
And even that question is kind of weird.
Well, I'm asking this question because it seems like you're trying to say that, like, basically, listen, I'm Jewish.
This is like, I need Israel to exist because Jews are persecuted everywhere.
Well, given it's an awkward location.
It's the only place.
You know what?
It's the place the size of Vancouver Island in an area.
That's as big as
Almost the United States in a Muslim way.
If you go from Morocco all the way east.
Past Saudi Arabia, it's in that area, and you look at Israel, which has zero oil, by the way.
It has nothing.
I don't understand your point.
Islam is not a nation, so you can't just kick out and evacuate a nation from their homes and expect it to.
Why do you want Israel so bad?
It's a tiny piece of ground.
Why do you want Palestine so bad?
Doran, I think the people who want the people who want Palestine are Palestinians.
You can't just straight up go and rob their land and then expect them not to fight back for it.
Like, that's nonsense.
But they're Jordaniers.
To me, they're not Palestinians.
They're Jordanians.
Okay, fine.
You can call them whatever you want, but those people.
They should go back to Jordan.
No, Doran, Doran, you seem confused.
This is kind of like Zionist babble.
It doesn't matter what they call themselves.
The people who lived on that land and had the homes and villages on that land and the olive trees and stuff.
Call them space aliens if you want, but that's their land.
It doesn't matter what you call them.
Just like if you call them Chinese, that doesn't mean they're going to be tied to Chinese land.
You can call them whatever you want.
That's their land.
Okay, so they were beaten in many wars.
Well, the wars aren't over, as you can see.
They're not over.
They're not.
And they were beaten in every single war since till today.
Well, they're still around and they're still fighting.
When you're beaten in a war and somebody takes your land, and they're still fighting.
Well, but they're still fighting for it.
Who said the wars are over?
They're not over.
They're still fighting for it.
No, they're not over.
So he's a colonizer.
Exactly.
The wars are not over.
So I don't know what your point is.
You know what?
And Doran, I just find it curious.
Like, if Jew if a history of Jewish persecution in Europe, because let's be real, justifies the creation of the Zionist state, it's such a weird location, given that you can't name any significant examples of the persecution of Jews under Muslim land, which is where Israel is located.
When have Muslims persecuted Jews?
It's kind of unfair that you're blaming you're attacking Arabs and Middle Easterners for something Europeans did historically.
Why don't you create a state of Israel in like Germany or something?
Why why there?
Why are you blaming people who have nothing to do with any Jewish persecution whatsoever?
We've created it because that is where Moses took the Jews from Egypt.
Yeah, but according to the according to the Canon and now we're going to keep that land.
And you know what?
The more that you people fight, we will turn Gaza into a parking lot.
Before we talk about parking lots, let me fucking finish, dude, because your first sentence when you came on was very aggressive.
Okay, continue on parking lots.
Shut the fuck up and let me talk.
So now it's time.
How big is the parking lot, by the way?
Can I park my car there or is there a handicap?
What's the you can park your car there, but it will be destroyed, my friend.
So, so why is it a parking lot, dude?
Why is it a parking lot?
If I can't, so if I park my car there, it's destroyed, then why not make it a water park?
Why does it have to be a parking lot?
Doesn't even make sense.
Yeah.
Don't worry, you got an answer?
You seem a bit too dim to really argue with.
I I kinda no, I just kinda wanna get to the point because it kinda sounds like you're saying because of religion, but doesn't it say in the Talmud that you can't have a a kingdom of Israel until the Messiah comes?
I don't I'm not religious, so it doesn't matter.
But you said Moses is the reason you chose that land.
Well, that means it's a religious land.
He was a Jew, so yeah.
Yeah, but that was a reli that's religious.
It doesn't make me religious.
Okay, so so what no, you're not religious either.
So is this some kind of like race racial theory of Judaism?
That's nonsense.
You a rabbi would slap you across the face if he heard that.
It's about religion.
I can't fucking do ar rabbis.
Okay, well, a rabbi is gonna take his sandals and beat you with it if he told him that.
You're saying Judaism isn't a religion?
It's just a what is this?
What is this racial nonsense theory you're spouting?
This is like some racial supremacy kind of like, yeah, the Jewish race.
This is just German nationalism from the 1800s.
It's just nonsense.
Dude, dude, this is just European racial nationalism from like the 19th century.
That has nothing to do with Judaism.
You know what, dude?
You know what, dude?
You just sound like a fool.
I don't want to argue with you anymore.
Seriously.
It doesn't sound like that.
You're that fascinating.
So, you just want to talk about parking lots?
No, but Gaza's going to turn into one.
No, okay.
It sounds like you've got some expectations.
Okay, go ahead.
The math finished?
Yeah.
West Bank is next.
Okay.
Well, I don't want you to get too excited, so I want to temper your expectations a little bit.
What's going to happen is that the IOF is going to go into Gaza and get slaughtered.
It's going to be so, so horrific.
It's going to be like Saw.
Have you ever seen the movie Saw?
It's going to be like that.
They're already in Gaza, and you guys are running away.
Doran, have you ever seen the movie Saw?
It's going to be a death trap.
It's going to be just like that.
So they're going to get slaughtered.
And then let me tell you what's going to happen.
Eventually, maybe Hamas will be cornered, right?
But when that time comes, Hezbollah is going to get involved.
Iran will get involved.
The Domino effect.
And then there's going to be no more Israel.
It's just not going to be on the map anymore.
So what will you do?
I mean, how are you going to cope with that?
I want to do this for your mental health because you seem to have these expectations that do not seem realistic.
So, we need to temper our expectations, make our expectations realistic, so that you can have the most peace of mind in your Canadian life.
So, go ahead.
Doran, are you still there?
Archu, did you want to speak?
Yeah.
I want to ask him.
I'm originally from Israel.
I live these days in New York.
Of course you do.
First of all, I'm very, very happy to hear this guy has that is being honest and he said that basically he wants to wipe state of Israel, which is good that no, it's good that the person come up, doesn't hide stuff and say the truth as is.
So first of all, thank you that you saying the truth as is.
Yeah, I didn't know it was such a rare thing to say, but yeah, I mean, they sh the State of Israel.
Some some some people like, you know, this try talking to you, they try to
go over and over who started first or this or this and in the end of the day if you want to try to make a peace with a person that doesn't want you to be exist so it's a different game
I mean, yeah, there's no peace with the Zionist entity in the long term.
It will ever be so wait.
So wait, now you change your mind.
Well, that's against the Zionists, against the Jews.
Which one are we talking about?
Okay, so what I said was the Zionist entity, which is a synonym for Israel.
Okay, so let's start.
So let's reverse.
So you have no problem with the Jewish people as me.
You have a problem with the Zionists.
I don't.
Yeah, Jews in general, I don't really have a problem with them.
Wouldn't say I do.
Okay, so we come to agreement on something.
I like Adam Sandler.
I like Adam Sandler.
I think Aiden Ross is pretty cool.
I don't even have a problem with them.
Not really.
So okay, so when you said like, you know, basically you want to wipe State of Israel as a Zionist State?
Yeah.
Correct.
Okay.
And what should be instead of that?
Whatever the position of the question.
Just quickly, can I just re-qualify your position?
Would you say your position is you basically I think the moral encompass even by UN is Israel as an occupying state and basically the resistance are looking to gain control back of their estate, right?
So the moral encompass fundamentally is you're fighting to get back the state which is an occupying state, correct?
Yeah, I would say that the first of all, the Palestinian resistance, according to the principle of national self-determination, would probably decide what happens.
And then I would imagine a deeper regional involvement for regional integration.
And we would probably see the region decide what happens as far as the governance of that territory.
But I do imagine that it would be...
Hang on, I would like to answer that.
Haz.
Yeah.
And like in the past, Iran and Iraq had a war that lasted eight years, and yet the United States beat up Iraq in what four days.
So when you say Iran is going to be involved, I don't think anybody's frightened of them, just to be honest.
Well, Iran is a very different place than it was.
Yeah, really?
You think so?
I don't.
Well, I mean, the facts disagree with you.
As I want to ask you, I want to ask you a quick fact.
Dawn, can you give me one second?
I want to ask As one question.
Yes, please.
If you have the opportunity I mean, if people have in Gaza and the West Bank have the opportunity, let's say to vote for which under which under for which under government they wants to live, under Israeli government or under Hamas or whatever, Hezbollah, what do you think will be the vote for?
from the people.
I'm not talking about from from the politic perspective, from the people like, you know, they're running the show.
I'm talking about like, you know, if you're taking individual people and give them the option to vote.
What do you think will be the result?
Hamas.
Okay.
I don't think so.
Um well typically you know uh Palestinians the Palestinian street they kind of just seem very opposed to I mean look uh Arafat was with the Oslo Accords.
They didn't like that.
That followed the uh with the Intifada two-state solution.
Two-state solution is not popular among Palestinians.
It's just not.
You're right.
Okay, but let's let's be let's be honest.
Let's be honest.
Let's put this straight up.
Most of the Palestinians that live in Gaza these days, everybody wants to get out of there, not b because what happened on October 7th, even be way before that.
People want to leave these places.
People want to have to leave more frequency.
Let's just assume that's true.
They leave and where do they go?
So I'm asking you a different question.
Where is all these refugees from Syria left to?
Where they are now?
Was there seven million of them?
Where they are now?
And they're in the process of resettlement.
Where?
All over Europe.
Well, that's Europe's problem now, I guess.
But the ones that are in the region Wait, why why is the Europe problem?
Because the that's Europe decided to take in refugees and wh whether they want to resettle or not.
So why why is the problem?
Um because they are not from Europe and they don't have the same culture and you know assimilation is difficult.
But it's it's it's it's very easy that if you're coming to a different state, you respect that you if you're coming to a different country, you respect the country that you came in, that they welcomed you, and you march into a massive influx that didn't do that.
That's that's like you did like the like the Israelis from the Jews from Europe did when they came to Palestine.
Is that what you mean?
Yeah, you didn't ask the question again.
I didn't I didn't hear you say that again.
Basically, you didn't respect the Palestinians when you came to our state under Palestine and living between Palestinians.
Instead, you kicked us out.
Listen, I want to tell you.
I just want to ask him what his point is.
Archu, can you get your point?
I want to tell you like this: like if we we can be in spaces and talking over and talking over and talking over, like you know, and I won't be able to change your mind, you won't probably will be able to change my mind, but at least let's talk.
Now, if you're looking in history, so the question is from which point in the history you start looking at looking at the Bible, you're looking at the Quran, which one is is is from which point I can start looking in the history.
So if you even even if you look in the Quran.
I think I think we're pivoting.
I I would like you to explain your point about Syrian refugees and the relevancy.
Like what does that have to do with no I'm saying like i it has to do with like you know if the Arab nation and Europe uh and and people like really care about the Palestinian people
So, some of them can find themselves like the those people that want to leave, not the people that want to stay.
So, let me answer that.
So, I'm sure you're aware that the countries in the Middle East, specifically in the Levant, already have a huge Palestinian refugee population.
And this is what has contributed to a great deal of the instability in the region.
So, that's why the right of return is actually so fundamental and important to this cause, because these people have been uprooted from their own historical lands of their families and their forefathers, and they don't have lands in these other countries because they don't have ties to them.
So, this is why the right of return is so important.
So, when you say that people in Gaza want to leave Gaza, I'm trying to tell you, even if they left, they would not be at home anywhere they went because that's their home.
Palestine is their home.
What are you talking about?
Well, Palestinians are not like Zionists, they're not people who just are going to pack up their bags and completely change their identity and create a fake country.
But what do you think?
Why do Jewish people came to the state of Israel, to the land of Israel, to the Holy Land?
Why?
I think most of them were traced.
No, I did like we just said, this is not about religion.
Mostly the Bible.
Okay, I mean, if this is about the Bible, then you should listen to the Talmud, which says you cannot return until the Messiah, until the arrival of the Messiah.
No, the Bible opposite.
You have in the Talmud, you have the opposite where you have to say to you that you must, you cannot, you cannot even live outside of the land of Israel.
That makes no sense because the Talmud gave you three rules that you can leave the State of Israel, the land of Israel.
One is the problem.
The problem with what you're saying is that the reason why what you're saying is contradictory is because the Talmud was actually compiled after the majority of Jews were no longer living in that territory.
So it was actually compiled outside of quote-unquote Israel.
So that doesn't make sense.
If the Talmud says...
Why do you quote your Talmud?
I don't understand.
Why are you quoting it?
Because it is a part of the world.
You have much more other stuff you can quote.
You can quote only one of the people who are not return to the promised land until the arrival of the Messiah.
Listen, I'm a Jewish Orthodox, and I gotta tell you that I never heard about this type of rules.
I have no idea where you're making that from.
Well, I know because you've probably been brainwashed by Zionist propaganda.
No, no, no, no.
I'm not a Zionist propaganda, and I grew up in ultra-Orthodox world.
So, are you aware of the Orthodox Jews who are anti-Zionists?
Yeah, I'm aware of them, yeah.
So what's their argument?
I listen, those people I have they have their own uh uh uh uh idea that against the Zionists, but the fact that they joined the Palestinians
Which has nothing to do with each other, that's that's something else.
But I I'm not agree to uh agree with that.
They make the religious case that it's actually heretical.
Zionism is a heretical.
Yeah, you know what I said to those.
You know what I said to those people?
They live in the United States, most of them.
Very, very, very small group are from those Nituri Tata in Israel that standing up in those type of a protest and a protest against Israel.
But those people, most of them live here in the United States.
Some of them do live in the United States, like small group in Merchaurin, but but but very small.
What?
Around 100,000, yeah?
I think that's all.
No, no way.
Archu.
Is there a reason why the ultra-Orthodox, when the first government of Israel was formed, they didn't participate in the government in Israel and they never actually said it was forbidden for them to participate or even become ministers in the government for the first few decades?
You may be right.
And you know what?
This is part of our inside politics.
If you want to bring it against the Zionists, it's okay.
So you have one point.
It's not about the fact that nobody is perfect in every country.
In every country, there is some ethnic or some group or some people will say that it didn't include me.
What happened in the United States with the black people?
In every country, if you're going to go, nobody is perfect everywhere in the world.
But the Zionists are not perfect also.
But what I'm trying to establish here is that this isn't about religion.
This is not about religion.
About race.
So the whole point is, what I'm trying to say is the ultra-Orthodox in the beginning justified moving to basically Israel by saying we are not going to be part of the state and that's how we're going to justify it as long as we don't participate in the state and we don't recognize Israel as a Zionist state, but we're going to live in the Holy Land.
And then after that, we have in.
Wait, what I'm saying, but let's cut it off because in the Orthodox group, there is so many of them.
You have the Neturic, you have the Le Litvak, which is, I don't know if you know, those it's different from the Hasidic, and you have the Sephardic.
There is so many of them.
So it's not all of the Orthodox.
It's not all of the Orthodox few decades of the State of Israel in the government.
And then the first ones that did, I think, were the Sephardic Jews who said that.
Let Konas finish his statement.
He never interrupted you.
So my point is basically after that, they justified it by saying, okay, we will participate, but it is forbidden for us to be a minister.
It's okay for me to be a deputy minister.
And then it was okay to be a minister.
So it seems that there's some religious revisionism happening just so and to my in my opinion it seems that the Zionist kind of ideology is corrupting the fundamentalist position of the Orthodox Jews by participating in the Zionist state.
Yeah, listen, there is definitely a movement uh from the real Zionist to the what is t today uh so-called Zionist.
I can tell you that today the the right side in Israel, if you compare it to Ben-Gurion, so Ben-Grion is today if you put if Ben-Grion was alive today, he was would be considered like Itamar Bengvir.
You understand what I'm saying?
Yeah, yeah, I know.
So so so I'm saying like, you know, things have changed.
So y s the people they have so much against the Zionists, the Zionists today is not what a Zionists was like, you know, forty or fifty years ago.
Right.
I I agree.
The the Zionists today are even more open about their criminal depravity than they were before.
I'd like to ask a simple question though.
So since for you this is about religion, it seems like.
It seems to me that you would prefer, as an Orthodox Jew, that Jews live in a way commensurate with the rules and customs and culture of their religion.
So here's my question You have two places in which Jews live.
One is in occupied Palestine, as I'd call it.
The other is in the Islamic Republic of Iran.
Of the two places, in which of the two places are Jews more obedient uh to their religion?
Where w how many what Jews live in Iran?
Thousands.
Money.
Maybe tens of thousands, actually.
No way.
Barely Jewish living these days in Iran.
Okay, so for the Jews that are living in Iran, are they more pious?
Are they more following their religion than your average Tel Aviv nightclub ho in Israel today?
I will answer your question with a question.
How come all Arab countries have ethnically cleansed the Jews out of their country?
No Jew is allowed to
In almost every case of Jews being quote unquote ethnically cleansed from Middle Eastern and Arab countries, it was actually due to Mossad or Lehi or the Stern gang terrorism that drove them out of their homelands back to Israel to serve in the IOF and uphold the Zionist dream.
So we're not gonna do that.
But you could talk about being ethnically cleansed from Europe and the Pale.
Also, there's about ten thousand Persian Jews still in Iran.
Ten thousand.
How many how many uh how many Muslims live in Israel?
We were from we were from Palestine, so we didn't actually.
How many Muslims live in Israel?
How many of them were immigrants?
Almost.
Huh?
Seven million, almost, right?
Seven million?
Yeah, yeah.
You don't consider the West Bank and Ghaza Israel, right?
You said that we're going to take all of them.
No, you're talking about like, let's say in Gaza, you have two million, in West Bank, you have like a million, let's say, and in Israel, you have another two.
You want two million Palestinian citizens of Israel.
You have 350k in East Jerusalem.
You have 3 million in the West Bank, and you have 2.3 million in Ghazi.
Where do you have 3 million in the West Bank?
In the West Bank, you don't have 3 million.
What are you talking about?
Ferraris?
Feraz, how many Jews live in your shitty countries?
None.
Uh my my country is your country, Dora.
Why?
Why?
Bec no, your country is all the way from Morocco all the way to Saudi Arabia, all all the Muslim countries.
They've thrown it.
So you're saying that Muslims are all one nation?
That's not true.
There's different cultures, ethnicities and states that are Muslim, yes, but they're not the same countries.
I I I just I'm just waiting for my citizenship in Israel.
That's it.
I just wanna be able to vote.
That's where where where you from, by the way, in Israel.
You know what's funny is that there are more Jews.
We're in the fancy neighborhood.
There are more Jews in Iran.
Not so fancy.
There are more Jews in Iran than there are in Poland and the Baltics combined.
Okay.
That's because Iran is run by Arabs, not Persians.
Wait, how is Iran run by Arabs?
I don't understand that.
Ask any Persian who lives in Canada.
They'll tell you.
I'm sure.
We're not sure.
Is the supreme leader of Iran an Arab?
I personally do not know, but I do know that every Iranian that I speak to in Canada.
Left because Arabs run the country and not perfectly.
So are they telling the truth or are they just saying that because they're asshurt about the Pahlavi dynasty being overthrown?
Well, Haas, you know what?
If you ever told me it was raining outside, I'd go and look because I'm pretty sure it'd be sunny.
Okay, so you're un it's unclear to you whether the supreme leader of Iran is an Arab, just to be clear?
I'm completely unclear.
Well, don't you think that kind of speaks to like your lack of education on the topic or?
Not really, no.
Okay, are are the people of Azerbaijan uh Arabs?
No.
Are Aziris living in Iran Arabs?
No.
Interesting.
Okay, yeah, so Iranians.
But you're an Arab, right?
You're an Arab, right?
Haz?
No, I'm Jewish.
No, no, you're not Jewish.
I know you're not Jewish.
Wait, we have like a very even wait.
We have a very even battle right now because we have two.
We have Faraz and Haas on the on the we'll call them the Arab side, and then we have the two Zionists, and now you have two anti-Zionist Jews on the panel.
This is who is the two anti-Zionists?
Yeah, I know Didi is one of them for sure.
I know the other one.
Although, she who's the other one, the Aussie guy.
No, Benjamin.
Who's Benjamin?
Where are you?
No, I'm Muslim.
I'm Muslim.
Who's Benjamin Rubinstein?
Benjamin Rubinstein.
Oh, there, that guy.
Benjamin.
Yeah, he's he's a proper Jewish.
And what about the and what about the Aussie guy?
What is he?
He's just Aussie, man.
No, it's not just us.
Muslim, Muslim.
Okay, thank you.
Everyone's gotta be something.
That's that's the important damn it.
Stop trying to label people, man.
Don't put people in a box, man.
Oh, fucking everybody in here.
Oh, dude, everybody here is in a box.
I just want to vote.
Can I just vote?
Can I just vote?
Because, you know, Netanyahu controls my life as much as he controls Archu's life.
Yeah, Netanyahu is really good at putting people in boxes, so.
Are we going to go to Israeli politics now?
Is that the deal?
No, I just let's go back to Archu and Haz.
I think.
No, no, Fred.
I want to ask you, where in Ramadan do you live?
Exactly.
Sensitive information, but I don't live in.
I'm starting suspicious that you're working for the IDF.
No, no, I don't work for the IDF.
I wouldn't talk about my IFF.
I have to interject for a second here.
I'd serve in the PDF when we can get equal voting rights, you know.
I just have to interject here for a second.
I saw a tweet the day before yesterday, this gay guy going, yes, I'm gay and I live in Tehran.
And there was a reply from Iranian government.
See you soon.
That's like a that's like a joke for like 60-year-olds Doron.
Come on now, man.
Are you from the you live in the United States?
Oop, me?
So Iran in the Telson.
Well, I live in the US, but right now I'm in Tel Aviv and I'm just chilling, you know, basically.
But I do live in the Television University.
Are you seriously in Tel Aviv now?
Yeah, I am.
Oh, nice.
Where are you hanging out?
In Allenby?
I'm just gathering intel and kind of just scoping things out, you know.
Daising golf, you're taking a picture of buildings.
Yeah, you photo shoots, all this kind of stuff.
I'm kind of a photographer.
He's in Texas.
He's doing TikTok, TikTok videos in his RDF outfit.
Hey, Doran, I've got Nicole here.
He's actually Persian, and you mentioned that Iran's run by Arabs.
Do you want to respond to that?
First, let me thank D D Truth.
Not familiar with Abby, but thanks for giving me the mic.
Happy to be here again.
Again, I'm here on a friendly level.
All right, nothing controversial.
I think Truth, I don't know if it was Haas or Doran who said the Islamic Republic regime is Arabs.
Is that what I heard?
I I don't know who just spoke.
I'm sorry, what now?
I'm just saying I definitely didn't say that, so that was Doran Doran said it.
And we all laughed.
D Doran, I I don't I don't know.
Palestinian supporters.
Are are you Palestinian, Doran, or Jewish?
No, I'm Jewish Israeli.
All right, my friend.
So just to be clear, I'm I'm not Jewish, I'm not Israeli, I'm just a New Yorker and uh Persian American.
So the Islamic Republic, uh they're not Ara Arabs, right?
They're, you know, Iranians, but their whole ideology is different than mine, if that makes sense, Duran.
All I all I know, Nico, is that uh
I know a lot of people.
He's trying to say, Doran, he's your friend.
He's pro-Israeli, but he's from Iran in the US, and he's basically rebutting your commentary in terms of Iran being Arab.
Dude, all you're doing is interrupting.
Exactly.
That's what Tim does for he's the Aussie guy.
What's up, Mike?
What's up, Mike?
Tim, relax.
All right.
Nico, I live in Vancouver, British Columbia, and we have a very large Persian community here.
And I've spoken to many of them.
I'm a property manager.
I rent out houses and condos.
That's right.
Just DM each other's numbers.
Talk about that tomorrow.
Timmy boy, relax.
They all tell me.
They all tell me that the guys in charge.
In Iran are not Persian.
So that's all I'm saying.
And I could elaborate on that, Doran.
Timmy boy, what's up, Mike?
Can you just wait your turn and let us talk like adults, or are you going to keep interrupting like a little baby?
Wow, so defensive there, Nico.
No, I'm just saying, Timmy boy, you know, that's not.
Oh, well, calm down, man.
I'm just, I'm just saying, relax.
It's actually pronounced mate.
Mate.
Mate.
There you go.
Might.
My bad.
Mate.
Mate.
Mate.
Exactly.
There you go.
Exactly.
Very well.
There you go.
Can I respond back to Doran host?
Is that okay?
Or somebody?
Okay.
So, what's going on, Doran?
You're pretty much correct, right?
So the Iranians in the diaspora has a total different ideology or outlook with the whole entire regime in Iran, right?
So the regime came to power in 1979 through Khomeini.
So when he passed away or died, then they have the supreme leader right now, Ali Khomeini, right?
So people like myself, you know, I don't agree with whatever he's doing with the regime in Iran.
So the people in Canada, for example, speaking of Vancouver, Toronto, or whatever, they have pretty much the same thinking process as me.
Does that make sense, Doran?
Yes, absolutely.
You just deflect on these questions.
Like, so the question was, are Iran are the Iranian is Iranian in power Arabs?
Yes or no?
Timmy, I I I I don't understand this guy's accent.
Does somebody translate?
He asked if the Iranian regime is run by Arabs or if they are Arabs.
Okay.
So Timmy boy from Aussie loves yes or no answers, right?
So we like in first grade.
He doesn't like to have dial.
You can't answer the question, bro.
It's so easy.
Okay, I will.
All right.
Xanon, take it easy, tough guy.
Relax.
Let me get a ton of fun.
Hey, hey, relax.
Hey.
Xanon, you're a funny guy, okay?
Hold on.
To make it a yes or no, the answer will be no.
Doran, there you go.
He said no.
Thank you.
All right, let's move on to something else.
Is the Godfather dubbed in Persian yet?
Yeah, please.
Back to Oz.
I needed to fact-check that by an Iranian.
Now go on, please.
Okay.
I was just wondering if the Godfather was dubbed in Persian yet, but it seems like it's on its way.
But anyway, as I was saying, basically so-called Israel has no right to exist whatsoever.
No, no, no, no.
As you change your mind already, you can say the Zionist.
Be focused.
You say the Zionist.
Well, you can call it whatever you want.
It's like the Zionist entity.
I like to call it quote-unquote Israel.
And when I say the word Israel, I'm using air quotes with my hands.
You just can't see it.
But I don't think it has a right to exist.
Actually, I know it doesn't.
And that's my position.
I also think that Khamenai is a great leader.
A great leader.
And the Islamic Republic of Iran is by far the best modern government Iran has ever had in its history.
You will for sure be proven to be wrong.
Well, okay, hypothetically speaking, let's just be realistic.
Hypothetically, you just entertain the hypothetical.
Let's say there's a regional war and Israel is wiped off the map, it's no longer on the map, then what?
What would you what would your position be?
I don't really know how to answer that because I can't believe that could happen.
Well, would you be going to Australia and hopping with kangaroos?
Or what would be, you know, like, what would be your reaction?
What would you do?
Well, I don't think Israel will be wiped off the face of the map.
I think you will probably be wiped off first.
Okay, well, let's use some basic logic then, all right?
So there's a region, it's called the Middle East, I don't know if you've heard of it, and there's this country there that just doesn't get along with anyone and never will.
So how do you plan on having Israel exist without foreign war interventions to protect it until the end of time?
Are we just America's going to have to sacrifice everything for Israel forever?
I mean, at what point can quote-unquote Israel be what you call self-sustaining?
You know, like, yeah, you have to prop it up at first and give it billions of dollars and weapons and all this stuff.
But like, shouldn't it become self-sustaining eventually?
Do you foresee that ever happening or what?
Well, I think that seeing as Israel owns America, it doesn't really it's kind of a moot point, isn't it?
Well, do you actually believe that?
Are you just being facetious?
I'm being a troll, just like how you being a troll.
Right.
Well, realistically, when do you foresee Israel in air quotes, when do you foresee that state becoming self-sustaining?
I feel it's pretty self-sustaining now.
Well, it's just not because we have to send American warships.
It just is.
Well, it's really not.
So I'm an American, and my tax dollars are funding that Tether State completely.
You know what?
I don't really care about your fucking tax dollars.
I'll tell you something.
Well, will you pay me?
Can I finish?
If you don't care about my tax dollars, then you don't care about it.
Here's what I'm telling you.
Yeah.
Here's what I know.
Yeah.
Is that all when you say we give Israel so much money, we give them so much money.
We give them everything.
No, you get shit in exchange.
You give them everything.
You get stuff in exchange for that.
Well, I don't.
Maybe like some Wall Street corrupt guy.
Your country.
Okay.
Sure.
So just to establish where we stand on this, you believe this symbiotic, mutually beneficial relationship where America is getting anally raped, but it's mutually beneficial.
You think, you know, in quotes, it's mutually beneficial.
But that is just going to last till the end of time.
Like, at what point are we no longer going to have this mutually beneficial relationship?
You have to ask this question in the United States, not Israel.
I'm asking you at what point do you foresee that Israel wants to be able to do it?
Well, the United States decided that she doesn't want to have anything to do with Israel, but I don't think it's going to happen.
It's going to happen because the United States is to support the only free democracy.
Yes, all this blah, blah, blah.
Yeah, the free democracy protecting everyone from the sand monkeys.
Yeah, I get it.
I get it.
Okay, so you are basically saying that you do not imagine a future in which the so-called state of Israel will be able to exist without dependency.
Will be able to exist without the United States.
They already exist without the United States.
I told you when the United States decided that she has nothing to do anymore with Israel.
So you foresee at a certain point in the future that it's possible that Israel will be self-sustaining and it won't need the United States.
Yes.
Yes.
Do you think that time could be now?
Let's say the U.S.
turns its back.
Okay, okay.
That's interesting.
So who is fueling and supplying Israel's iron dome missiles right now?
Just out of curiosity.
United States.
Who invented Iron Dome?
It doesn't matter who's supplying them with the rest of the it is, it is, it is metal, it is metal.
Well, actually, I invented it, I invented Iron Dome.
Listen, listen, which phone are you using?
Which phone are you using?
iPhone, listen.
I invented the Iron Dome.
You're using an iPhone, sir.
Please, please.
I invented the technology and the iPhone also made by the Israelis.
Right, maybe Israelis.
Don't get emotional.
Just let us speak.
Look how army is.
I don't get why you guys are getting so arced up.
Let him speak.
All right.
So I actually invented the Iron Dome.
Please give me like a few billion dollars because it doesn't make a difference.
I invented it.
So just give me billions of dollars of missiles and we'll be fine.
I'm entitled to it because I invented it, right?
Send me your F-18 and I'll put 7,000 modifications on it and send it back to you and tell you how a plane is supposed to be.
Hey, so you're claiming that Israel somehow benefits the U.S.
with technology?
Oh, are you fucking joking now?
What you're saying is because you Muslim Arabs have no clue what fucking technology is.
That's the problem.
You know what the Israeli intelligence invented?
They invented Jeffrey Epstein.
When the Jews gave you Gaza, which was a jewel, you fucking ripped it to pieces and fucking turned it into some African fucking country.
Benjamin, Jeffrey Epstein is one of your friends, a Democrat, right?
So let me continue because I want to be clear about this.
You claim that if the U.S.
turned its back on the so-called state of Israel right now, Israel would be fine.
That's what you believe?
But it wouldn't do that.
But let's say it did.
Would Israel be fine and self-sustaining?
Let's not say it did, because that's not bullshit.
Is Israel capable of being self-sustaining right now?
Against all you people?
Yeah.
Against Hezbollah.
Against nukes.
Okay, so Israel is going to use nukes.
What would happen then?
So would Israelis.
Well, yeah, but then you then you won't be able to take your investing your investment back from the island drone if these are the same we're never we're never gonna see the investment back.
It's just uh being thrown away listen you cannot you cannot you on the one hand you really want to get back your investing the other you want to wipe Israel so you won't no no no I don't I don't think you want to be listen I don't think we can get back any sunken costs but in the meantime I would like to have it so that all of the money that we give to Israel we spend it on ourselves so that's what I believe but this is besides the point because this is about the question of whether Israel can exist in the region in the long term now we've established you're kind of worming around it but I think we've established pretty confidently that even you admit Israel cannot survive without the United States so once we've established that we have to ask the question has there ever been a state in history in the long term in a region that can survive so inauthentically and inorganically relying on a foreign power halfway across the world just to be able to have the necessary security to subsist every single one of the civilizations in the middle east that are indigenous to that land they're what you call lindi over thousands of years they're tried and tested they're firmly implanted in that soil every ethnicity every community every sect every religion is there because they were tried and tested they're compatible with their neighbors there's a cultural uh shared history with their neighbors and they've survived battles and wars and they've all come to a mutual understanding with each other and they share a civilization you somehow think that this fake inauthentic artificial state is going to be able to survive at the expense of all of that that's silly that's just silly for you has i have a question from the river to the sea palestine will be free from the river to the sea palestine will be free yeah you see i i'm dry but they they have talking about like you know very like you know diplomatic now like you know free from the river to the sea free free palestine no that's what actually i i'm not one for slogans because here's what i believe i believe that the destruction of israel is a matter of gravity it simply will happen and there's nothing you can do to prevent it i don't need to have any slogans i don't need to say anything it simply will happen as a law of nature itself
Yeah, for once for physics.
I think it's completely I think for the end of the day, after what happened now, I think something good must
must happen after the terrible
What happened to the be the beheaded babies?
Uh okay, now you're gonna tell me prove it and stuff like this.
No, no, the babies were beheaded.
No, I'm saying like, you know, I'm saying like, you know, you know, if you want to go about, if you're talking about proof, so they said like about 10,000 Palestinians got killed 90%.
I didn't say anything, I just said 40 babies.
I'm just saying like this stupid proof situation.
Okay, forget proof for now.
I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I told you, I'm not, I'm trying not to go, I'm trying not to go into this type of a path because it's not going to be end for that.
And I can have a conversation with you.
I think I'm fair enough conversation.
You can have a nice conversation.
I think you should actually harp on this point.
Because you tried to draw an equivalency to the 10,000 killed in Gaza, of which even the Washington Post doesn't contest, to the 40 babies.
So putting it again.
Putting aside the question of proof, I just want to gauge your level of delusion.
Do you actually believe that 40 babies were beheaded by Hamas?
It's just like yes or no.
Do you believe that?
Yes.
Okay.
Do you really believe that or is it just like, do you really believe that or is are you just joking?
I do.
Okay, you believe that as well, Garrett.
Uh Ferez, uh Ferez, how do I say your name?
Ferez?
Okay, yeah.
Let me jump in about the 40 beheaded babies.
My name is Khaled.
I'm Palestinian.
I live in the United States.
You know, the White House walked back that story.
They had enough sense to walk it back.
The Israelis stop repeating that lie.
But why is it that they had to talk about the beheaded babies?
Well, because for the same reason they have to talk about Hamas leaders hiding in the UN-funded hospital, as if raining chemical weapons, as in white phosphorus, on that school, will kill the Hamas leaders, as if the Hamas leaders were playing in the playground of that school that they had to.
But I think the reason they talk about beheaded babies and raped women and so on is because these kind of arguments are precursors to committing war crimes.
You want to go and commit war crimes, you have to demonize and dehumanize that group of people that would justify, at least in the mind of the West,
You would have to justify the killing of those people by demonizing them and dehumanizing them.
Basically, it is like in a horror movie.
When a horror movie, when you see a zombie, you know, you don't feel bad, nor do you feel guilty about killing a zombie.
And I think what they wanted to do, even in a horror movie, you see a seven-year-old who is really cute with a dress and braided hair and so on, but then you find out she's a zombie.
You go and you kill that girl, even though she's just very cute and teeth and all of that.
But because she's a zombie at the end of the day, if you don't kill the zombie, the zombie is going to kill you.
So I think what they try to do by talking about the beheaded babies is that they try to make Palestinians as zombies so they can go and carpet bomb entire neighborhoods.
They can bomb a 16-story building and then turn it into smithereen.
They bomb 2,000 pounds on one.
I wasn't even populated.
I was checking my DMs.
I wasn't listening.
How is this guy a pedophile?
And that should justify.
And then we heard the rhetoric coming out of the Israeli officials, whether it is Netanyahu talking about the Amalkites were in seven-year-old what in Petite?
What are you talking about?
Dude, what is this?
I wasn't listening to anything he's saying.
The babies and the infants and the women and even the animals and the donkeys.
So we heard that rhetoric from today or yesterday from the cultural minister who talked about lopping a nuclear bomb on Gaza.
We heard it from so many different Israelis.
Now the discourse in Israel is go and kill every living thing, basically reliving that biblical term.
So I believe that if you are so delusional to think that beheaded 40 babies, then you're really just trying to justify, even in your own mind, maybe, trying to justify the atrocities and the ethnic cleansing and the war crimes that are being committed.
So if you want to go that path, I mean, that is fine.
It is on you.
Thinking that you can live without the support of the United States, let me see how long you would last in the Security Council with all the vetoes that the United States is using on your behalf.
Let me see why you can live without the $14 billion coming out of U.S.
taxpayers, but you don't really need it.
You just need this as kind of icing on the cake.
You don't need the F-35.
It doesn't matter who invented them.
It doesn't matter.
You know, the microchips, 90% of microchips in the F-35 are made in Taiwan, by the way.
So the fact they invented it or they manufacture it does not make them entitled to all of this military hardware, military support.
Without the support of the West, mainly the United States of America, you will not last for six days.
One last point, and then I'll stop and listen to somebody to people's comments.
Basically, Israel receives the largest U.S.
military aid in the world.
Any country gives to any other country.
The second recipient of that is Egypt.
When did Egypt get that?
When it signed a peace treaty with Israel, which means that we give Egypt the second largest military aid so that it can have peace with Israel.
I.e., we give you military aid provided you keep the peace with Israel.
The third largest recipient of U.S.
military aid by the United States, the largest in the world, the third largest in the world, basically, is Jordan.
When did Jordan start receiving it?
When it got guarantees that it will have peace with Israel.
So the United States is sustaining Israel with the largest military aid.
So wait, so the problem is the United States.
Well, well, I mean, l you you were saying that you think whatever let's say whatever you said just now was just true, that Israel will not be able to stay for one second after the United States will stop supporting Israel.
Who is this problem?
The Panama is the United States?
No, no, it doesn't it's irrelevant.
I mean, no, it is irrelevant.
So you you live in you Palestinian, you can't live in the United States and you have a Panama's United States government.
I'll tell you what, I will be ready to go back, you know, talking about from the today I was in Channel 4 here in my local community because our congresswoman Rashid Atleb was saying that from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.
And many pro-Israel groups said that they were like, oh, horrified.
And they felt that it's adding salt to the wound.
And they feel really uncomfortable and they feel threatened by Palestinians calling from the river to the sea, Palestine be free.
And let me just tell you how absurd it is that my father from the city of Tiberias, Tabariya, I have the key to his house.
And it is the house where he was born, the house where they had my oldest brother.
And for me to ask for that house, it will make some Zionist uncomfortable.
I say, get some fucking therapy if you're uncomfortable with me asking for my father's house back when you're coming from New York with a 3,000-year-old Bible saying that God gave you my house.
I mean, is that not absurd?
And you're calling me that I, Palestinian, live in America.
I was born in a refugee camp.
I would rather go to Palestine tomorrow if I am.
Why don't you do that?
Oh, because I think the overall point here that we're trying to establish is that Israel's reliance on the United States is unsustainable because it drags the U.S.
into wars that are not going to be popular among the Americans.
You don't explain one thing if we all so smart to say whatever you just said now.
So how come the United States doesn't stop it?
Because the United States is going to get dragged into a regional war where it's going to get a really bad thing.
The United States is partnering.
No, no, actually, it is not because of that.
I believe it's not.
I think Hazard a lot of questioning, and I think he was going to continue something.
I think Khalid, like your information was really valuable, but has continue on, man.
Yeah, I was just going to say, well, it doesn't seem like the U.S.
government is going to stop anytime soon.
And that's going to lead us down the path of calamity.
We're going to get a really bad, bloody nose because of the kind of regional war, or worse, that Israel is going to drag us into.
We're in debt.
The U.S.
system is not sustained.
I can talk endlessly about how the U.S.
isn't sustainable.
So it's a bigger picture.
It's a bigger picture.
It's like something like you already.
Yeah, I mean, the background, generally speaking, the background behind this conflict, especially is the U.S.
unipolar system, which is collapsing.
The collapse of dollar hegemony, the collapse of the Bretton Woods system, the petrodollar.
And with that will come the collapse of the so-called state of Israel as well, which is dependent on all those things.
See, so here I'd like to say something now.
A couple of things, actually.
Mr.
Khalid.
Yes, if America abandoned Israel, it would be difficult for Israel.
Absolutely.
They're never going to abandon Israel, though, ever, ever.
Furthermore, how many Hamas and Hezbollah do you think have walked across the border in Texas from the south and are going to cause big problems in the United States?
Absolutely none.
I think what you're alluding to is the potential false flag attack that the U.S.
government and the CIA will carry out in order to gain consensus from the U.S.
In America, it's not going to happen alone because the American people in America will do something like crazy to kill it right away.
Same way that after 9-11, they destroyed Iraq totally and some other country, and they don't give a damn about anybody.
And they're going to put like a bomb, whatever they want, and this is the United States.
I mean, I think you're kind of not paying attention to how U.S.
policy is driven by Zionist lobby and Israel.
And you're kind of just saying this is the United States.
Oh, come on.
Okay, I just want to be clear about something.
All right.
So people who speak up against Israel and speak in favor of Palestine, which is their First Amendment right, we are seeing these people getting blacklisted.
We're seeing them getting censored.
We're seeing them getting fired from their jobs.
We're seeing them getting doxxed.
We're seeing them getting harassed, making it difficult to live here.
How is that possible if not for the fact that there is a huge amount of Zionist control in place?
I mean, how would that be possible?
Haz, answer me this: how come when Saudi Arabia killed 150,000 Yemenis and Assad killed 200,000 Iraqi Muslims, nobody fucking marched through the streets?
So without getting into the deal, yeah, I'll respond to it though.
But when Jews defend themselves,
And kill a bunch of people, the whole world is furious.
I think one of the big differences we can just look at immediately, and I'm not going to speak to the details because I don't buy the bullshit against Assad, but let's just put it aside for now, right?
Assuming all that's true, I can speak out against Saudi Arabia and it will not affect my life in any way.
I can speak out against Assad, and I'll be rewarded for it, right?
But if I speak out against Israel, suddenly my career is jeopardized, suddenly I get censored, suddenly, Zionist power comes crashing down on me, and I get labeled an anti-Semite.
Try to find out who is the Zionist powerful that you're talking about.
I don't know who is firing all of these.
I'm trying to do like you know, quick research.
Let's say, like, Joe Soros.
No, no, listen, I think that the paper that I think that I think a lot of institutions in the United States have made it very difficult to be pro-Palestine.
And I think, what are you talking about?
Most of those universities that allow the po-Palestinian to do all these protests and stuff.
Let me give you a concrete example of what you're asking.
Okay, so a few years ago, there was a few states that wanted to make it illegal to participate in BDS.
And in those court hearings, a delegation from the Israeli embassy was literally invited to sit in on them.
Not only that, but they helped write the argument in favor of the law that the judge was deciding on.
So, you know, you literally have foreign representatives of government sitting in and playing a major influential role in the U.S.
judicial system when it comes to the BDS.
Can I add something to that if I may?
And by the way, that was run by Abby Marty in that court case, and the lawyer was Maravon Hayden-Hilliard.
So if so, if you have any questions, let me.
Khali, I'll let you speak.
I just want to make one point.
I will let you speak.
20 seconds, I'll let you speak.
Just a second.
Listen, APAC is the biggest lobby in the U.S., which controls all the politicians.
95% of politicians that win election in Senate, Congress, and even the presidency are funded by AIPAC.
APAC is a foreign agent, okay?
And they have one priority in mind, and that's Israel first.
So if you're not Zionist, you have no chance of winning office in the U.S.
And guess what?
That also applies to the deep state, where you have the likes of Victoria Newland that are running around with their crazy foreign policy and making a mess of the world.
And I'm going to pass it on.
Okay, thanks.
Can I just get one thing in before Khalid?
Can I just get one thing in before Khalid?
Moron, there's a march tomorrow, pro-Palestine march at the Vancouver Art Gallery.
Will you join us tomorrow?
I can give you a Palestinian flag.
Okay.
You call me moron?
You call me moron?
Well, yeah, you are a moron.
Can we just bring it back to Haas because I think he was still continuing on and with Benjamin Frank?
Who was that talking?
Don't worry about it.
No, and it's Tim.
He's a nice guy.
He's a nice guy.
Let me just say about the BDS.
You know, there are thirty-five states in the United States that has passed legislations that either forbid or outlaw or punishes any activity to boycott Israel, which means seventy-eight percent of the American people live in states with such legislation.
In America, where the first amendment of the Constitution is freedom of expression.
So you have freedom of expression to boycott Jesus Christ, but you don't have the freedom to boycott Israel, at least in thirty-five states where seventy-eight percent of the American people live.
So that that is one thing.
But is that because the Jews are so powerful?
Yes, I think the Jews happen to be powerful and very influential financially in many other ways.
But I also believe because of America's complicity, America as the institution, America as the country, the deep state, if you will, America is, I think, is a partner with Israel in its crimes against the Palestinian people.
America is a partner with Israel in the ethnic cleansing because it serves America's interests.
Having tension in the Middle East makes it so possible to have puppet regimes like Sisi in Egypt and Ibn Saud in Saudi Arabia and the UAE that is just basically have become an office of the Mossad in Abu Dhabi and so on and so forth.
So I don't believe that the Zionists control America.
I think there is a partnership of criminality that is going on between the Israelis and the Americans, where the Israelis do the bidding of the United States to keep control of this really very strategic area of the world where there's a lot of energy, a lot of oil and all of all kind of things.
So they have served them for seventy five years.
It started with the British and the Americans.
The British kind of faded away, handed over to the Americans, and this is a partnership that is ongoing.
I I just don't believe that it's only just because Americans are victims of the Zionists.
I think they're partners, hand and a glove.
Khalid, I wanna ask you a question, like uh just a little bit off the topic.
T let's take a Jordan, the country, the the the Jordan state.
Why this uh uh uh Jordan cannot make their country better financially and people make more money and other stuff like this?
Why it's like so low
Income, there is no development.
Why?
Yeah, it's the same reason that Egypt, a country that used to have more income per capita than South Korea and Japan, actually.
Japan modeled its educational system after the Egyptian system after World War II.
So it is the same reason that Egypt is one of the poorest countries now in the world, the same reason we haven't had any democracy, because I think American hegemony in the Middle East have made sure that only dictators are going to be installed and continue to rule in the Middle East.
But that is irrelevant.
But you see what happened in, let's say, in Libya with Gaddafi, that when the United States decided that it's going to go off, they took him down in the end of the day.
Well, I think they take him down just like the Shah of Iraq.
They took down also Mubarak.
When he no longer served their purpose, yeah, they took him down.
But that is really irrelevant right now because the one who's committing the massacres, the one who's committing the genocide against the Palestinians are the Israelis with American weapons.
And I think any conversation about, well, what about Jordan and what about this, what about that, is really trying to change the subject.
It's a diversion, basically.
Just like, you know, now the controversy is, oh, from the river to the sea is making me nervous.
Get a therapy, man.
Don't blame me for your fragile.
Do you believe that the right of the state of Israel to be exist, or you prefer that the state of Israel will be wiped?
Do you mean the right of Israel to exist as an apartheid state?
No, it doesn't.
Do you think it's a...
Israel is not apartheid.
Come on, let's not talk about it.
I have a question for this guy.
Don't take my word for it.
Don't take my word for it.
Take the word of Betsellim.
Take the word of somebody like apartheid in Israel, it cannot be if a judge, an Arab Israeli, Arab-Israeli judge could be in the Supreme Court and every and every Arab that they that are Israeli citizen wait I'll tell you in in South Africa they're talking in South Africa they were there were uh judges who were they were okay come on they have this they have like almost eighteen seats in the Knesset are true what are you talking about
Guys, we really can't rehash whether or not Israel is an apartheid state.
It's basically agreed upon.
So, Haas, why don't you give us your opinion on what Khalid was saying?
Especially, I think he was talking about the American people are sort of being represented by Israel to some extent in the region.
So, I guess I'd like your response to that.
I think I disagree with that to an extent, if that's what he meant.
I think that the American people not only do not gain any benefit whatsoever from the support of Israel, but are actually harmed significantly by it, right?
Just the fact that we have to get dragged into wars is probably, I mean, the number one reason why it's a net harm to the American people.
But, you know, understanding Zionist power, I think he did bring up an interesting point that I do agree with, which is that what we're dealing with is a cartel of an international ruling class.
Zionism is not the only part of that.
It's one of the parts which has circumvented our basic kind of the institution of the American Republic.
We have a constitution, we have an official government, we have a history and tradition of statehood that's open and transparent, right?
But on top of that, there's this kind of international ruling class, Britain, United States.
I would say Israel is one of the parts of that.
South Africa used to be part of it.
And so on and so on.
And basically, we have the rule of international capitalists in this country, which has created, yes, a deep state.
NATO is a part of that.
Ukraine is a part of that, or funding of Ukraine, the interests there.
And basically, this has hijacked our country.
And we have the veneer of a U.S.
government, of a sovereign country of the United States, but we don't have any real Westphalian sovereignty.
America has no real sovereignty, right?
So I don't think Zionists are the only ones in power.
I just think Zionism is a proxy for this kind of power, just like apartheid South Africa was, just like these various dictatorships we propped up during the Cold War were.
I agree with that.
And support for Israel is a clear example of something that is artificially propped up and only to the benefit of the ruling elites.
And it's a proxy for the deep states agenda in this country.
Excuse me, I don't think America goes into war because of Israel.
America goes into war because of Israel.
You're right.
You're right.
America in general.
Right.
America in general goes to war on behalf of the interests of a very specific oligarchy, right?
Rich people, yeah.
An oligarchy, right?
100%.
But Zionism is a pet project of that same oligarchy.
So we do go to war.
We do go to war.
Excuse is the word to use.
Excuse.
No, we do go to war for Israel because Israel is a part of that interest, that international ruling class interest, right?
So it's not.
If they let Israel die, if they let Israel die, they would completely lose control of the Middle East in such a way that they would have to declare nuclear war on the Middle East to get away from the world.
What would probably be...
Biden said, by the way, Biden said that if we don't have Israel, we should create Israel.
So, I mean, I think Biden was.
I think Haz's question was.
And Doran, I appreciate your transparency.
I think him talking about the geopolitics of the interests of Israel within the Middle East is a really important conversation to have.
So I think that question line questioning and the response you get, Doran, gives me an understanding.
I think you've said it a few times: Arab Muslims, Arabs generally, and Muslims around the world.
It sort of gives me an indicative of the geopolitics.
Continue on, Haz.
Yeah, I would say that.
Wait, one second.
What do you think about the Russia picture in this situation?
Okay, no, no, no.
We're not changing the subject.
So please continue on.
So basically, basically, obviously we have a foothold in the Middle East for purposes of energy, right?
But I think at this point, it's shifted actually from just being about energy and the oil crisis in 71 and so on and the history of Aramco.
I think it's moved beyond that.
And we are trying to, similar to how there's a front now in Russia, there's a front against China.
We are trying to repress a poll, a form of regional sovereignty centered in Iran specifically in order to prevent the development of that region, which could challenge the monopoly of the Anglo-Saxon capitalist class, international capitalist class.
And I think that's really what we're dealing with.
It's a hegemony trying to protect its economic monopoly, particularly economic monopoly.
And Iran right now is really one of the only sovereign powers or polls, as I would like to say, that has the potential to actually develop the region in a sovereign way.
So at this point, I think historically support for Israel did not become on the basis of some kind of calculating interest of American geopolitics.
I think it really was a pet project, a colonial project for the British Empire originally to maintain a foothold in that region.
I think gradually throughout the Cold War, we saw all sorts of different interests define U.S.
foreign policy.
But I don't think there was total control of the deep state like you see now.
Now,
At this point, you know, we have this international oligarchy which is doing everything it can to prop up the state of Israel to kind of fulfill an agenda, the full scope of which I don't think we even know, right?
But it's definitely part of that.
I would like to ask you a question.
I don't even know who you've been talking, but I would like to ask you a question.
Do you think that the Iranian people love their government?
I think the majority of them prefer the government they have to the alternatives that are on the table.
I have to interject.
I have to interject.
Okay, I'm going to say, I'm just going to say to everybody, good night.
It was nice to talk to you.
Sure.
So, good night.
Daron, Daron, Daron.
Before you go, please, I've been wanting to talk to you for just five minutes.
Talk to me.
Go ahead.
Nico just wants to interject on the Iranian point, then you can chat.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let Nico respond.
Well, I mean, I feel bad because Faha literally had his hand for 30 minutes now.
I don't know.
You want me to answer?
Yeah, yeah.
I've actually been here for like three hours just listening.
And there was an interesting thing that has said.
He said.
The they differentiated the American people and also a certain group of oligarchs.
And so what's happening here right now is that the American people, their thinking has shifted, and this is why you're seeing massive protests against what the oligarchs are trying to impose on them.
If this was 20 years ago, there is a possibility that the American people would have supported Israel enormously.
Because I don't know if you get what I'm saying, because the playbook has been the same.
They just recycled it over and over again.
There was also something that has asked Doron.
He asked, Do you believe that 40 babies were beheaded?
And I know some people go, I want to talk about that.
I want to talk about.
Doron said yes.
And according to my assessment, and I've said this in a previous space that I've been in.
With that logic, I am starting to believe, or I actually believe, that Hamas never went in on the side of Israel with an intention to massacre or to kill anyone.
And so I'm also relating that to the survivors that said that people started dying only when the IOF or IDF came and there was a crossfire.
However, let's also go to another you know, let me tell you something else you should think about.
We all know about a civilian, IDF civilian that was held hostage, uh the guy, the soldier, Gilat.
And Gilad, when they were giving, when they were swapping, someone saw prison the Israelis gave or swapped 1027 Palestinians for one Israeli soldier.
I message one of the co-hosts for prison.
They were trying to project an image that one Israeli is worth a thousand Palestinians.
Now, with that logic, if you are Hamas and you've already known that Israeli has over maybe 10,000 prisoners, sorry, or people that they have abducted and put in their jail cells, when you get a chance to get or to get maybe 20 Israelis or even 200 Israelis, you do not murder them or you don't kill them because you know they are worth more to you when they are alive.
Put it in mind first that earlier they said one IDF or one Israeli is worth a thousand Palestinians.
So there is no reason whatsoever that you could give that can justify that Palestinians came in and killed the civilians.
Number two, the idea when they say that the Palestinians are using human shields.
Now, you can't say that the Palestinians want to kill Jews, all of them, and at the same time say they are using their people as human shields.
If they want to kill all Jews, all they have to do is to get your own civilians and use them as human shields because you've already said they want to kill them.
So if they want to kill them, why would they take them as civilians?
That's number two, or number two.
Number three, the idea of you thinking that carpet bombing and killing a four-year-old's whole family somehow only inflicts fear is wrong.
Because in my opinion
If you bombed my family and I survive, I do not develop love for you.
I resent you.
So, whoever is giving Israel there was we're getting a master class in every single pro-Palestine argument ever in history.
All PA pro-Palestine ar arguments, volume one.
Waiting for the moment to cleanse the Palestinians.
How?
Number one, the Minister of Justice, I think Minister of Defense, or he was given the position after shooting a Palestinian.
And then there is this thing left the space after she wrote on Facebook that the land of Gaza should be given to Israelis.
Which means, and I want to give you an example: if I was a doctor, and you know that every time I touch a patient, that patient dies.
If you are the owner of the hospital and hire me to work in your hospital, you are directly or indirectly saying that you are okay with patients dying in my hands.
You're going way off topic, way off tangent, and we're not here for a monologue.
This is a logical land it, and then we're going to move on.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
My idea, what I was trying to say is Doron was trying to deflect and other people who keep on bringing these arguments to vindicate or demonize Palestinians.
I'm only trying to tell you that because of the past, because of everything that you have done, we already know who the liar is and we know that we need the people of Palestinians more than they need us because they have put their lives on the line to fight for their land and for the truth.
And we won't stop and we won't give up on them.
I want Nico to give his argument, because I do believe the majority of people in Iran, not the few, not some metropolitan elites in Tehran, but the actual majority of people in Iran support their government.
And that's my view.
But I want you to be able to respond to that.
Anyway, guys, I'm going to head off to a barbecue.
Nico's a joke, just to let you know anyway.
But Kaz, D D, you guys are legend, Benjamin legend, truth, awesome.
Duran, I hate, I love the fact that you openly declared how much you hate Muslims, Arab Muslims.
And I love the fact that you talked about you're going to destroy West Bank and Gaza.
Like that tells the people inside the exact mentality of Zionists that are living in Western countries.
In any case, we all know that when the State of Israel was created, the entire international world, including all the Jewish communities, never wanted it to be created.
And I'll leave you on that.
Have a great night, guys.
Bye.
Timmy Boy, has anybody ever told you you talk too much?
No, because he always tells the truth.
Okay, so yeah, please.
Haz and Nico, go for it on Iran.
All right.
So Haz, I'll keep it real short.
Hands are up.
So you know, and I know there's really no way of measuring percentage-wise how many people support the Islamic regime.
However, in the Iranian diaspora, you clearly see that people did not support the regime.
Now, if you're in the U.S., you can hit the streets running from New York, Texas, to Cali, and you could ask around and you'll know people did not support the regime.
However, inside of Iran right now, okay, if people protest, I think somebody's mic is open.
I think his door on, if I'm not mistaken.
Right now, in Iran, right, as far as the regime, whenever people take to the streets to demonstrate against the revolution that we have for the past year, they either get shot in the eyes or they get arrested and everything else.
So there's really no way of telling, right?
But from what I know, being an Iranian American, right, I could reassure you that the majority do not support the Islamic regime.
Is that a fair enough answer, Haz?
Yeah, I mean, I don't, yeah, I know the diaspora is not a fan of Islamic Republic.
Most of them fled because they benefited from the Bahlavi dynasty.
So obviously those guys do not support the current government.
But I think the majority of people living in Iran, they may have criticisms, but overall, I think they support the Islamic Republic as opposed to alternatives, you know.
And the reason I think that is because I don't think that government would be viable or sustainable for so long if the majority of people were against it.
There has to at least be a sizable, huge population of mass support.
Because, you know, there's so much pressure.
They're under sanctions.
They're under siege all the time.
It's not like, for example, Egypt or Jordan or like some Middle Eastern dictatorship where like dollars are just propping them up, just like pure support from like foreign powers, you know.
So when you're in the hot seat and the Islamic Republic's in the hot seat geopolitically and it has been for decades, you need the support of your people as your lifeline.
If you don't have that, I couldn't see how they could have survived for so long.
Haz, if I could say this, okay, going back to 19 Khalid, I think your mic is open, Khalid.
Haz, if you look at it this way, going back to 19.
It's all right, brother.
No worries.
Going back to 1979, Khomeini, right?
He was never elected.
He was planted there by the U.S., France.
I see Lucina, she's giving fingers down already.
Lucina, we know you support the Islamic Republic regime.
That's fine.
However, the Western governments planted Khomeini in power.
When he passed away, Ali Khamenei, mind you, was always also in prison, right?
So then he came to power.
So if he was elected Ali Khamenei, which is the supreme leader, whatever you call himself right now, why did they attempt to kill him so many times?
Hence, his right arm is a fake arm because once they planted a bomb at his desk and he lost his hand.
So right now he's still in power.
So taking into the past year, there's been a revolution.
All right.
So if you are for the people and they elected you, then why would you shoot the young people in their eyes?
Why would you imprison thousands of people?
If you have nothing to worry about, right?
And the people support you in Iran, then why treat your own people like this?
So to the extent of my knowledge of the facts I've been presented with and the research I've seen, a lot of these narratives about the protests and about the, you know, the, what was it, the, um,
The woman freedom, whatever protests, that this was synthetic and manufactured, and the stories of women being shot in the eyes and stuff were lies.
But I'll let Ruslan speak to it because if I could say this, I'm sorry, people have their hands up.
So you said people getting shot in the eyes and things like that are fake.
That's what you said, right?
I'll let Ruslan speak on the details.
But I have pictures.
I could prove it.
If you like, I could DM your pictures and then you can see it for yourself.
Go for it, Ruslan.
Well, yeah, again, Prism Ruslan has more of the exact details on the allegations and stuff, but everything I've been presented with and seen, I'm pretty convinced that this is just smears and lies against the Islamic Republic.
But Prism, go ahead, take it away.
I can talk if you want and I agree with Nico, I think that house is completely indoctrinated by all the bullshit.
Okay, please go ahead, Ruslan.
And that yeah.
Anyway, I was gonna say, uh I don't I don't really know where to begin since these are all just fabrications and allegations he made without any evidence, so he has to kinda present his argument.
Bruslan, just for you, I will go ahead and post all the atrocities for the past year in the space chat.
So you can see that.
Okay, so let's.
All right, so instead of debating semantics, let's focus in on one specific thing regarding the past.
I guess we should start at the very beginning.
Please, please let me go ahead.
I guess we should start.
Well, you twisted.
Okay, so do you think you know what pictures is?
I do.
I understand.
I also understand that the U.S.
government was funding all sorts of arms being delivered in ISIS Khorasan and all of that in relation to the protests to aid the protests.
So, you know, further than that, let's go to the beginning.
Masa Amini, right?
Was Nico.
Do you believe that she was killed by the Iranian government or do you think that she died of health conditions?
Benjamin, your first mistake is you don't even know how to pronounce Iran.
It's not Iranian, right?
It's Iranian, right?
That's the first thing, right?
So American dude, who cares?
Well, I care, Ruslan.
How about that?
Yeah, I care.
Right, but we're talking about the death of a young woman.
So why don't you go ahead with that?
Right.
So the fact is, again, I could show you video and pictures that she was murdered.
There's even footage of her in custody when she passed away.
I could send it to you, Benjamin.
Rather than me going back and forth.
No, I mean, I've seen the footage you're referencing, and it doesn't show her being beaten.
It shows her just collapsing on the floor.
But Ruslan or Hajj.
Why don't you go ahead and respond to Nico again?
But Benjamin, let me ask you a question.
Hold on, you asked me questions.
Let me ask you a question.
Let's be fair, right?
You asked me a question.
Let me ask you a question.
And I think Samira Khan is Pakistani, so I can't wait to listen to her.
So, Benjamin, my question to you is: my question to you is: when she was in the hospital, right, what caused her to end up in the hospital?
That's my question to you, Benjamin.
She had a chronic heart condition.
Okay, all right, that's fine.
Can you show statements or records of that?
Yeah, the autopsy report actually.
Okay, that's fine.
Excellent.
So, there's about a thousand people, excuse me, 907 people in here.
You just said that you have proof of records to show it was something related to the heart.
So, I will wait for you to send that to me.
Franz, do you have that at your disposal by any chance?
Do I have what?
The records that it was a heart failure and stuff.
Yeah, I do.
Yeah.
Okay, so Rosalind, send it to me right now.
Thank you.
Okay, guys, let's move on from Massa Amini.
So let's come back to Palestine, Israel.
May I.
Okay, we haven't heard from Smir at all.
I'll give her a shot to speak.
And then Haz, do you have any more questions you want to do with Doran?
No, I think I'm pretty satisfied.
And actually, good timing because I actually do have to go now, but I really appreciate it.
Great space, and we should do more of these because I had a lot of fun.
Absolutely.
Listen, I followed you.
I can't DM you, though, so just message me back, follow me back, and then I'll do that.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Make it interesting, so make it worth your while.
Appreciate you coming on, man.
So you can bring Jackson on one day, too.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Thank you.
Okay, bro.
If I may, really quickly.
Dora, can you hear me?
Because it says it's connecting.
All right.
Um okay.
Okay.
Alright.
Alright guys, we are
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You know?
Anyway, guys, see you tomorrow.
And as I prepare.
for Timcast.
See you guys.
Later.
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