DEBATE BLOODSPORTS (MASSIVE BEEF!)

Still on steal.

Next to uh

In my cold paradise.

Men sit in circles and talk numbers I never really like.

The way they think of life as some kind of gamble And watch the city jump

Where is it that I belong?

So hey

Yeah

everybody, what is going on?

We are back.

We are back home.

Midwest with the 10.

What's going on?

ACP Showgunner with the 10.

What's up?

Lennon Dubois with the 1.

What's going on?

Jayska with the 1.

What the fuck is going on, everybody?

We're back.

We're back and we got some debates apparently.

Got some.

I got so much shit to share with y'all.

It's crazy.

It's crazy.

Is crazy.

What the fuck is up, everybody?

We are back.

We are so back in so many different ways.

Not just back home, but we're back to our roots and to our spirit.

You know, I found this ancient artifact.

And it's like shit, we're back in every kind of way.

And this this one day this is gonna go for millions and millions and millions of dollars.

You know, it's made of rare earth metals.

Anyway, I'll give you the story on that another time.

But I have a lot to talk about.

I have a lot to California, Texas.

Really, if y'all missed out on that, for real.

Y'all missed out on the Texas shit.

I'm not going to lie.

That was even more fun than the convention, for real.

Like, that was so fun.

Okay, so, like, look.

Why did I stream today?

Usually I like keep to my schedule like Monday and shit.

Well, first of all, I could not wait to stream.

I couldn't wait to get back home and stream as soon as I could because there are two little bitch-ass pussies on social media conveniently when I was gone and I wasn't home saying, oh, Haas is dodging me.

Haas don't want to debate me.

Haas not debate.

Where's Haas?

Haas not debate.

Here I am, bitch.

Here I am, bitch.

Grant, what's up?

So these people are such losers.

I don't even remember their name.

But if y'all can remember who they were, tell them to get in VC or I'll set up the space, however, we got to do it.

And we'll fucking do it right now, bitch.

Let's see who's going to stand on business and who's talking shit.

And by the way, anybody who talks shit from their computer about me acting tough on some tough, tough guy shit, I spit in your I will spit in your face in real life and bitch slap you in a video game if you put me in a self-defense situation, you little bitch.

Don't fucking talk shit on the internet because not a single one of y'all who talk shit have ever to this day brought that energy in real life.

As a matter of fact, you quaking nervous pussies have never ever deigned to look me in the eye when y'all see me in real life.

And I'm I'm notorious.

I'm notorious.

I'm here.

I've never been confronted in real life.

I went to UCLA.

I was waiting.

What happened?

I was waiting.

Where are they?

I don't know.

Nobody knows.

But they talk because I emasculate them.

Like straight up.

They just like see me and they feel like the little bitches that they are.

So they have to talk a big game about how, oh, I'm going to do this to Haas.

I'm going to do that to Haz.

You ain't going to do shit, bitch.

And it's as simple as that.

It's as simple as that.

And I've never changed, by the way.

I've never changed.

I haven't changed.

I've just shown you for one year how disciplined I can be.

I can be disciplined.

I can be fucking boring.

I can be formalistic.

I can wear a suit and be fucking boring.

But do I enjoy it?

Absolutely not.

And that's one of the themes of today's stream: enjoyment versus sacrifice.

And I want to talk about that.

Lebanese, let me talk about something.

Thank you so much, bro.

And shout out Detroit chapter.

We're going to be running it up with the Detroit chapter soon.

All right?

Fall season's coming up.

I want to talk about that.

If you're doing some shit that you don't enjoy, you're punishing yourself.

And Lord knows, you know, I'm not gonna name names.

Fuck it, I will name because

I'm not, it ain't no drama, but it's like if you're not enjoying what you're doing, it's a punishment.

And if it's a punishment, you're going to find a way to enjoy that too, right?

And there's a certain somebody who said he ain't Jackson Hinkle, and he found a way to enjoy that shit.

He found a way to enjoy getting punished, right?

So it's like if you're not enjoying it, it's a punishment straight up.

And

We have to enjoy what we do.

We have to enjoy this.

We have to roll with this shit.

We have to live this life because we want to live this life.

Not because we feel obligated to do it because we're scared we're going to be spanked otherwise.

Because Lord knows.

Somebody y'all so so the human mind will find ways to enjoy I'm just saying I'm just saying am I wrong am I wrong?

Am I wrong?

Okay.

And I noticed this.

The only way we're going to be able to work hard, you know, as a party, and let me talk about the party.

I can talk about the party.

The only way as a party we're going to work hard is if we also enjoy a lot of what we do.

And that way, when we do have to push ourselves to the limit, when it comes to the work, you know, we'll do it.

And it's not going to feel like.

You know, so miserable, you know?

And it's like, look, during an intense Civil War and revolutionary period, that's when life is going to be extremely harsh and it's going to be all suffering and it's going to be carrying the cross up the hill.

Like, we absolutely need to be ready for that shit, right?

But that doesn't mean we have to.

Punish ourselves in the interim and live like ascetics.

Like, if you read about revolutionaries in history, you know, Lenin was not an ascetic.

I mean, he was it was written as such.

He wasn't an ascetic.

He did enjoy himself.

He did, you know, he was a fan of sports.

He was doing that shit.

He had hobbies.

And Stalin was the way he was because he took power and then he didn't have time for nothing except what he was doing, right?

But he was still watching Western films and shit.

And look, look at Cheguevara.

Che Guevara was chilling, smoking cigars.

He had watches and shit.

He was chilling, bro.

I'm telling you, human beings by nature enjoy 95% of whatever they happen to be doing.

It's just a fact.

95% of what human beings do, they happen.

to make a habit of and make a routine of to the point where they enjoy it right so if we're on this mentality that we're not going to enjoy party activity and work and this culture and this community that we have like and i'm saying this because like

I went to California and I had a great time with my people in California.

Like this was a like a tribe to this is like a completely new ethnicity to me.

Like I'm not Arab, I'm ACP.

Istanni, bro.

Like this is like we are

I was chilling with everybody, you know.

Yo, shout out, shout out Isaac.

The the guy in LA, okay, the LA comrade.

Isaac, literally an I G G died in the wool, super based guy.

You know, um, shout out Marcello, shout out uh, Huey.

You know, I'm missing a ton of people, obviously.

Shout out, Malumbo, Malumbo's based as fuck.

Everybody, we're not like everybody was so fun to be around and so cool to be around.

And guess what?

I went to California and I was doing the work as well.

You know, I was doing in the limited capacity, you know, I was doing drayage.

I woke up early for the drayage stuff, and you know, obviously, I streamed the convention.

You guys saw that and how that went down.

But then we also had that barbecue.

I didn't stream that because I was having so much fun.

One of the reasons I wasn't live streaming everything I was doing was because I was actually straight up enjoying myself for a lot of that.

That barbecue we had in LA was so fun.

Like everybody was gathered.

We were telling crazy jokes.

Everybody was laughing.

We were having cigars.

Great time.

Okay.

And our people are super chilled to be around.

Like by the standard of society.

I'm not talking about by the standard of political groups.

By the standard of society itself, we're super chilled to be around.

And it's so true because like we will like we'll like mob it up and go out.

And like, we will like, everyone finds us chill.

We're like hanging out with everybody, even non-party people.

And it's like, that's because we are actually our generation.

And that's what I love about our party: we are our generation.

We need to stop worshiping these fucking boomers.

and like idolizing them.

And by the way, like

The elderly people within our party are super chill and like we love them.

They're our comrades.

And they run it up with us and like, you know, they they they they have a good time just like we do, you know.

That's why they're so cool.

It's like, you know, having barbecues, telling jokes, having a good time.

Um, but when I say boomers, I'm talking about these legacy institutions that people, for some odd reason, LARP.

Why are you trying to LARP some outdated shit that has no resona resonance with the society we're living in?

Like, this thing we're doing should not be boring.

This thing we're doing should not be un

It should not be uncanny.

It should not be emulating boomers.

The boomers are the ones that failed us, okay?

The people in the CPUSA, they fucking failed us.

Hey, that's the truth, they failed us, okay?

Even Gus Hall, as much as he was relatively better, he failed us.

CPUSA failed us.

Something they were doing was very wrong.

And we need to wake up to that fact and not have this imposter syndrome where we feel like the only way we can take seriously what we do is if we LARP and pretend like we are like super corporate and professional.

You know, like, you know, look, I'm cool with suits, but that whole suit socialism shit was not our shit.

That came from CPI.

Suits are fine for our like super formal events, like conventions and stuff, but there's no need to overdo it.

And there's no need to be formalism is bourgeois.

It's actually bourgeois, you know?

And being stuffy and rigid and shit is just hypocrisy because people find ways to enjoy even that shit.

And you know what I'm talking about.

It's hip.

Boomers are hypocrites.

It's all this bourgeois institutional nonsense where they pretend like they're super serious and super whatever.

But behind the scenes, they have all these weird perversions and shit because they can't just be normal in the natural sense of the word, right?

Didn't Lenin wear suits all the time?

Yeah, because everybody did.

Okay.

In the 1900s, everybody was doing that shit.

And also, let me continue talking about that.

Even then, even then, Lenin was coming out of social.

Don't look at Lenin and say everything he did was like absolutely what we have to like one-for-one emulate.

Look at the groundwork Lenin laid.

He broke with social democracy.

Did he still carry some baggage?

Yeah, for example, there was ambiguities around the national question that weren't fully sorted out because of that baggage from social democracy.

Mao's criticism of Stalin about the peasantry that actually probably comes from social democracy.

You know, look at their trajectory.

Like, you go from Lenin to Stalin, okay?

It's all an evolution of drip when you think about it.

Lenin to Stalin and then Mao, okay?

Think about it.

Then Mao is just chilling.

Mao met Khrushchev in swimming trunks to disrespect his bitch ass.

Mao was a gangsta.

Mao was on some real shit.

Mao didn't...

Mao literally was a troll.

All right.

Mao was a troll.

He would laugh at nuclear war.

Then you go from Mao to Che Guevara, the swag master of our movement.

Dude smoking cigars.

He's got fake Rolexes on, which is based, by the way, because it's basically a complete defiance of bourgeois culture.

You're literally wearing that fake shit.

Like, yo, we get it for cheap and we still have the same bullshit prestige you pretend to be fronting and having, you know?

And that was, and then you go to the Black Panthers, and it's like, that's the road we're on.

We're not here to go back to fucking Bernstein and Karl Kotsky in the 1900s.

Like, you know how there's always those nerds in school that are like, I want to go back to the 1950s.

And they're like wearing old shit.

And they're like, I missed the old society before gangsta rap.

That's not us.

We can't be like that.

That's some CPI shit.

We'll never be that, okay?

Ever ag well we need to purge whatever is remaining of that in our ranks.

I don't think there's a lot of it.

But it needs to be fucking completely gotten rid of because we are the generation that's gonna fucking lead the future.

The fucking boomers failed us.

They don't know what they're doing.

Legacy institutions are dying.

We're living in a new world.

That only we understand and we have the keys to inherit.

Okay?

The the old ways, they're gonna get with the program or be left behind.

We're not fucking going back and worshiping and groveling before these retarded boomers who don't know what the fuck they're doing.

Okay?

Um, we're done with this like thing where we have imposter syndrome and and we're trying to pretend.

Like, look, I love Xi Jinping.

You know, I love the CPC.

Glory to the CPC.

Obviously, you know, I will be parachuted into Taiwan for Xi Jinping.

But we can't pretend like we have the luxury of the prestige and wealth that the CPC has to be pretending like we're some like

Corporate thing.

We just don't.

We're getting down and dirty with the proletarian rugged, like from the soil, from scratch type of shit.

Okay.

Like, we're creating this shit from the.

It's like we're building this shit from the ground up.

That's not a clean-cut process.

JK, just like it wasn't for Mao, when Mao was building his shit up, that was not a clean-cut process.

Okay, they were building that shit from the ground up.

You can't institutionalize that.

There's no way to do it.

For one year, we've been rolling.

with this continuity from the CPUSA.

And we're going to start.

There is going to be a cultural vibe shift, okay?

There is going to be a cultural question.

There is going to be a question of

Culturalization and not in the sense of creating it institutionally, but discovering our own memes, our own vibes, our own type of shit that we are gonna have for us and instead of like this bourgeois institutionalism that came from the CPUSA, you know?

Proletarian culture shift, you know.

Absolutely, we're Maoists and we make a critique of it straight up.

All these people that love, let me tell you something.

I was talking this to people in person a lot, but like I wanted to share it with y'all.

The rise of online socialization, especially after COVID, that was the death stranding.

Let's call that the death stranding, because that's exactly what it was.

It's the death stranding, right?

And it's irreversible.

There's no way to going back to being normal.

There's no way to going back to being normal.

Everybody is now autistic.

We live in an autistic world.

And now everyone's trying to reconnect and find out how to reconnect after the death stranding.

And like, that's what we are.

We are like a terminally online community and that's fucking based.

Because who the fuck do you think is terminally online?

Do you think it's these like PMC fucks in the city?

No.

It's isolated rural people who have nothing to fucking do because they're fucking bored all the time.

So they're just on the internet.

It's literally the most working class thing is to be terminally online.

All right.

Anyway, you go from that to real life and you and it's like it's so beautiful.

Like that's what we're we're leading the vanguard at post-COVID, after the death stranding, to reconnect this country, reconnect humanity, allow this generation to finally be free of this simulation prison that they're stuck in, you know?

So it's like that's what we're about when you think about it.

And this is the post and and all the reactionary retard LARPing boomers they're pretending that they can go back to the pre-COVID world.

Oh, touch grass.

Oh, I do things the real way.

Oh, we're gonna do things the old way.

Oh, I'm so offline.

I'm so working class because I'm so offline.

I wear suspenders in the field and I don't even know what internet is.

I'm so offline.

It's like that's fake.

There's no such thing.

That's LARP.

That's LARP.

That itself is LARP.

Every single one of these fucking ops we have that are like, y'all are too online.

You're fucking LARPers.

You're a bunch of LARPers who worship boomers.

You're LARPing as a boomers fart.

Everyone needs to be honest about the fact that everyone's become retarded and autistic after COVID because of the internet, and it's absolutely a fact.

It's absolutely a fact.

And we're the only ones that are bringing back some chill vibes and like real life.

The way, you know why we're the move, and I realized this kicking it back with our comrades in California and Texas.

We are the move.

Because, like, I have never been in a social environment where, like, everybody's kicking it back and it's so chill.

Unless it was family.

Only families kick it back like we do, right?

And plus, here's another thing: everyone else's way of enjoying their lives, like always involves some drugs or some D-Gen bullshit.

And like, we have none of that.

We are literally.

People have beers and like that's it.

Or cigarettes, there's a cigarette problem.

I'll acknowledge a fucking cigarette problem.

It's like spreading like wildfire.

Everybody's like getting on cigarettes.

But

Like we actually have fun.

In non-self destructive ways, you know.

Red design, what's up?

Um, that's so important, you know, and that is something sorely missing in our society.

And I feel like every time I hang out with our people, I'm like, I only wish more people could just see how our people are.

Like, oh, it's a cult, it's this, it's that.

And it's like, if you see how chill our social environment is, every single person exposed to it and is there, unless they're a Fed.

Like, why do you think our ops are so like obsessed, obsessively, like attacking us?

Because they're missing out and they fucking feel bad.

You know, they're wreckers, basically.

Um

Yeah, everyone would join us if they saw how fun we were, and that's so fucking true, all right?

That's what I'm trying to say.

Like, that's a big strength.

You should play that shit up.

And anyone who says otherwise is a fucking hypocrite, because 95% of what human beings do in normal peacetime conditions, but probably even in war as well, is they enjoy what they do.

Otherwise, you're not living.

Even in prison, they find ways to just enjoy the time that they're spending.

However much it's bad and they suffer, it's like they're still trying, you know?

So it's like, whoever's like trying to be on some shit where they're like, everything we do has to be pain.

It's like you're just LARPing and you're a fucking hypocrite.

And eventually you're going to get into some perversion where you learn how to fucking enjoy that shit too, right?

Um so there's a lot of things coming on that front that I can't even share with you.

A lot of exciting news and developments, especially in California.

Um all I can tell you, you know, is a few things.

Like one, infrared is gonna be fucking super tur turbo grown.

Like I'm growing the shit out of infrared.

I infrared needs to expand big time because this is an online, terminally online subculture that needs to fucking grow tenfold.

'Kay.

I consider it a huge, like a super important thing.

And I've always considered it.

And the plan for ACP was never for infrared to disappear.

Never.

You know, I had to put things on the back burner for a year getting started, but like I understand things, you know.

Also, I'm growing the shit on my TikTok.

And so much more.

You know, the army, the guerrilla army's just got to grow straight up, and it's going to grow.

Okay, uh straight up.

Guerrilla army's gonna grow.

And it must grow.

And guys, memes are everything.

Memes are everything.

Not concepts.

That's bourgeois idealism.

Memes are the materialist comprehension

of how the principles of organization actually

get spread, okay?

That's the truth.

And like we need to fucking cultivate we forced memes are cringe and always have been.

You can tell when an institution like Arby's is making a meme and it's so fake and cringe.

Infrared has never been like that.

Infrared memes have always been raw, distilled truth bombs, okay?

You know how many I saw fucking Peter Griffin on TikTok talk about Paul Pot, okay?

Like, that's not is that even us?

Who's doing that?

If we don't get in on it, someone else is, alright?

That's all I'm trying to say.

Like, shit is going on.

Anyway guys, I want to tell you that

California was great.

I went to Northern first, and there was the I had the barbecue with logo.

And you know, Logo's like a sage and I respect the hell out of him.

And Logo really likes this carnival thing, this like carnival idea, you know.

And like

This carnival thing is exactly what I'm talking about, in a way.

Like, we make it fun.

That's how we grow this shit, right?

Um we had a lot of conversations about the the future of politics.

Hey, I even s I've I've I saw it on my T L just today.

I saw what I saw was that uh apparently you know Burkina Faso passed a law that upset some Western leftists.

And so you see these like radical leftists who used to love Ibrahim Treora and they make they're now spreading propaganda against it, like, oh, you're losing villages to terrorists like literal French propaganda.

So, that whole convergence that we've predicted for so long, where they're just going to become NATO Nazis, is actually happening, right?

Also, guys, Jennifer was there at the barbecue.

If you could, the OG legend Jennifer was there.

And.

I didn't know what she looked like, but she started talking and I recognized her voice.

And that was such an honor to meet our the the director of the infrared board, Jennifer, the first the der the bo uh shareholder, what is it?

Board of

What is it called?

The board of directors, the shareholders.

She's like the head.

Um, 'cause she was like literally the first person in chat in Infrared's history, you know?

Board of Finance.

Yeah.

Um, so but yeah, but Logo kinda just disappeared when he left.

No one even saw him leave.

He just kind of like he was like a sorcerer, like a magician.

He just vanished.

He did say he's like, Yo, I gotta go and then like we turned around once and then he was gone.

Uh so he must have levitated out like yeah from the Sidgic Order he's from like the Sidgic Order from Skyrim or some shit you know

So uh

Red design.

What's up, bro?

Bro, the Amarillo crew.

Bro, Amarillo is a different.

I'm just talking about California right now.

I'll get to that.

California, we drove from the northern part of the Bay Area.

We drove to LA, and along the way, I got some of the best barbecue I've ever had in my life from those California cows.

And I got to kinda s vibe out the rural California, you know, environment.

It's it's great.

It's a bunch of rural people.

It's m um white, Mexican, you name it.

And they're super rural and they're super based.

And I feel like it's like the infrared demographic, you know.

Like

Just a super based population.

Rural California, right?

Working class rural Californians.

And then we went to we passed into LA.

And then, uh, in LA we uh you know, I went to the convention which I streamed, but um

It was it was great.

It was a great time.

I don't know if you guys saw.

We went to like a hookah bar.

Malumbo was there.

The only thing is, bro, me and Malumbo were supposed to hit the studio and record.

I was straight up gonna make music with Malumbo.

He was like, I got the studio guy, and we were gonna be able to make a beat.

I was gonna make a song called Tartaria, and it was gonna be like, what was it gonna be again?

I don't remember, but I had an actual great idea.

I had a great idea, and for music video and shit.

So.

That but the but the the the producer or whatever, the sound engineer, I don't know what his name is, he wasn't in town.

So I have when I go back to LA we're gonna be doing that shit.

Um

So, I could have made, you guys know, like, I have the vision.

I can make music.

I don't know how to technically do it, but like, if I'm in the studio, 'cause the guy makes beats as well.

So, if I'm in the studio, I can make some really hard shit, and it would have been super basic.

I gotta go back to California and do that.

I believe in that vision so much.

Anyway, uh

Then we went to we went to UCLA.

Amila with the 10.

What's going on, Amila?

Amila with the 10.

What's up?

Um, LA, I'm just gonna be straight up with you guys.

We have fun, all right?

We just have fun, and most of the fun comes from the laughing that we do.

We're not, we don't have to have drugs to have fun.

The way that we have fun is the crazy jokes we tell, and I've never seen a group of people laugh so much as ACP people when we're all gathered together, like um.

Bro, but I was on some wild shit.

Like, I convinced a group of people that I was like a Silicon Valley executive and that we knew like all these Silicon Valley people and that was from the Bay Area and that I live in a bunker and it's a crazy story.

I lied to them and said that I was a I was the uh you know what Waymos are?

They're self-driving cars in like California.

I said that I was the lead engineer of Waymo.

Marcello was with me.

He was actually being convincing.

Marcello, because you know Marcello's a Bay Area guy.

So he was like smoking cigarettes.

He was like, yeah, the technology prototype, but he was using all the technical language.

And I was saying that they were talking about how like Waymos are running people over.

And I was like, well, that's the price of progress.

And I would just say that shit with a straight face.

And I like they were actually convinced, right?

So then they were like, they were like, wait, hold on.

Is I'm missing something?

I was talking.

Yeah, I was talking.

Oh, I was like, also, like, belittling them.

It was like, I think it was like a group.

They were like these rich women, right?

I was like belittling them.

I was like, yeah, I don't usually talk to poor people, but I'm doing it today.

It's so funny.

I was like, they were super entertained, though, right?

So they're like, all right, so call the Waymo.

So I called one.

And like, we were all going to the Waymo because they wanted to go somewhere else, right?

So, uh, I um

I like when the Waymo came, I like ran up to it and I was like pretending to inspect it and shit.

Like I know what I'm like, oh, I got to inspect it and see what's going on.

We're doing diagnostics to run the tests.

It was so crazy.

I mean, look, is that serious work?

No, but it's like, that was an adventure straight up.

Me, Isaac, and Marcello.

I was actually like hilarious.

I should have, I don't know why I do the best stream content offline.

Like, if I streamed that shit, you guys would have been dying laughing.

It was like the most one of the most top 10 hilarious things I've ever done was like lie to all these LA people that I uh I'm the leader engineer.

Anyway, um

Uh, that was fun, but uh, no, I did, I went to the Drayage, um

I talked to a lot of the Drayage truckers.

Well, by a lot, I mean like probably a dozen or so.

The trucks are pretty big, so it's kind of uh, I talked to them like from while they're in their trucks about it.

Look, can I tell you guys something about Drayage truck organizing?

It's it's fish in a barrel.

Like they're they're already ready.

They're ready.

Like, just go do it.

They're they're they're they're receptive.

They're waiting for this shit.

You don't even have to convince them.

Like they're straight up waiting.

for this message.

Like every single one was receptive big time and more.

Like they would ask me questions, like, Oh, when is this getting off the ground?

How soon?

I can't wait, you know?

And that was in LA which is behind Newark in terms of like progress on the organization front, but it's a super promising thing that we're doing there, right?

And it lines up so well with all these other plans we have.

I I'm telling you, the stars align so well.

The the trucking, it's like transportation across the country.

We're gonna have that locked in.

All right.

And then there's other things

Some crazy ideas that are very viable that I heard that are going to work really well, right?

Um

So guys, you just gotta do it, you know?

And I feel like a lot of people don't do it because they just

I don't know they're discouraged.

I get that it's super early.

I understand I woke up at five AM

To go to that

To go to that, uh, to go to the port in uh in OC, but um, you just gotta do it and you know.

You gotta do it and it works.

It's straight up.

It's fish in a barrel in terms of how many people you can get to sign up for the union, for the organizing.

And uh

So yeah, I mean I I I checked that out as well.

You know, I was shown a lot of other promising projects in development that are kind of top secret, but are going I they're so based, I don't even want to say them because I don't want to even jeopardize them by talking about them.

Um, super promising stuff.

Let me tell you guys something: LA and California, it's like there's something about that place, like the heart and soul of infrared, straight up.

Because I was there for 45 days in the formative years of the Jackson Alliance, the Sacred Jackson Brotherhood.

The immortal friendship

And the fraternal brotherhood of infrared and Jackson was born in LA.

And it's like the whole vision was planned there and plotted.

And it's like going back was super nostalgic.

But I could live in LA straight up because the vibes are so on point.

My skin is always looking fresh.

I never have this dandruff problem.

I have a huge dry skin issue in Michigan for some reason.

I don't have that issue in LA.

And vibes are just super good.

And you know, there's a lot of infrared people there.

Like, it's crazy how many are there, like, just from the community, you know?

Um, California, it's just great place.

Yeah, California is where, like, this hyper liberal, you know, global empire was born and that's where it's gonna die, you know?

It's a it's the barbaric frontier of the USA.

So I have, and these aren't my the full extent of my thoughts on the California trip, but it was so I it really, like, really increased my morale and made me super optimistic about our future, big time.

Not just in terms of what's already on schedule for our party, but something even more grand and greater, okay, that I have full, absolute faith in.

Like, let me tell you guys, the future is bright.

Straight up, the future is bright.

Okay?

And um

Uh that's I guess that's all I'm gonna say for California.

Is there anything else?

Yeah, I think that's it.

Uh, not bigger than the party, but like big for the party, you know?

Big, big stuff.

So then Amarillo, okay, Amarillo, Texas.

This is the American steppe.

It's literally a steppe climate.

Okay.

It's a steppe environment.

It's like Mongolia.

It's actually all flat.

Amarillo is super beautiful.

Super pleasant place with beautiful people in terms of their soul, their hospitality, their culture.

Extremely hospitable.

You know, maybe I'm just white passing.

I don't know.

But like all the old people would come up to me and they were so chill and nice and friendly.

Old ladies.

Are a big fan of me, big time, which was super charming.

You know, where do I even begin with this?

Okay, the Amarillo crew.

First of all, shout out Maddie.

Okay, Maddie's the one who organized this entire thing.

So, this was all Maddie.

So, shout out Maddie for organizing this entire thing.

Um, but Maddie organized this extremely cool Like I felt like it was a field trip like one of those cool ones Like in high school or some shit, right?

Because the first thing we did is we went on this hike this really beautiful And I think it was a natural reserve or something, but it was like a full rundown of the ecology and the environment in Amarillo and it had these crazy rocks.

Man, it looked like Africa with all these trees and these rocks and shit.

Like, shit was shit was like, wow, it was like, I felt like I was in, I felt like I was in Africa or some shit, right?

Uh but we basically had a tour guide and it's super interesting.

He was giving us the rundown about the water cycles, the the aquifers, how everything uh the the the the the geology the the ecology the the bioregion the plants the animals the habitats um and that shit's super interesting and it's so funny that people call me a LaRoucheite or some shit when I actually I love ecology.

I think ecology is super interesting and important.

We are an ecological party, but ecological doesn't mean green.

Because ecology includes geology, right?

Ecology is just about how natural systems work and being cognizant of those systems.

Now, what you do with them is on you, but you know, some people have a superstitious attitude toward natural cycles and systems where it's like avatar or some shit.

But this is more about just like how do these systems actually work?

Where does the water come from?

What's like, how does it actually get replenished and at what rate?

How does it interact with the environment?

You know, what are the various networks and systems at play in environments?

Jason, what's going on?

And, you know, it was a super interesting talk this guy gave because he was talking about, I mean, he wasn't even an ideological, like, fanatical communist by any means.

He was sympathetic to us.

But what he was telling us is that what creates a common interest of people in a region just by default is the shared environmental dependency they have.

Now, he was talking about the bioregion of Amarillo and it included parts of the Rockies.

And it was about specifically like how the water cycle.

He explained it in a really particular way.

And I bought into it.

The guy was like, you know, that these borders are not really meaningful because they don't actually establish the common.

Like we have this shared environment that's unique to this region that gives us a common character.

It gives us a common culture.

It gives us a common temperament.

It gives us a common problems and way of life.

And he's like, all of our state laws are like, they're all different.

We don't work together, even though we have the same common interests and same region that's all interconnected, right?

And it totally won me over.

Now, does that mean our party is going to change its chapters thing?

It's like, probably not because we'd have to do that at the convention.

But nonetheless, the point was we'd have to do that at the national congress.

But he made a very intelligent point.

And I'm not against ecology.

I'm not a LaRoucheite who opposes ecology as a science.

I actually think it's super interesting and important.

So, you know, I I gotta say that that was that was an extremely informative and and enlightening and very nice, just just in general, that hike we went on.

It was super uh super interesting, you know.

Uh so we did that.

And then um

Precisely after that, what did we do?

I think later that day is when we went to dinner to that steakhouse.

And oh, I had a meeting with the executives that were president and also the regional leaders in Texas.

But I tried to stream that steakhouse we were at, and I don't know where the fuck you guys were, okay?

Because nobody showed up to the stream.

I was shocked.

Like, y'all straight up just did not show up.

And then I was like, okay, I'm gonna make it go interesting and just like take the camera somewhere else to make the content better.

And it died.

And I was like, yeah, I'm not gonna restart this stream.

Like, barely anyone showed up.

It was like a Friday.

But I'm gonna tell you guys, you missed out.

Let me tell you guys why you missed out on that stream.

And there was actual content that you missed out on that you should have actually invested in.

I shit you not.

After the stream was over, like an hour later.

A fucking cowboy Trotskyite came to the table.

A guy dressed in a cowboy outfit, who was randomly a Trotskyite, started fucking arguing with Kyle and Abe

About Trotsky.

It was the crate.

It was the waiter.

He was one of the waiters at the restaurant.

So, in a random fucking place in Amarillo, Texas, there was a fucking Trotskyite cowboy.

And you're telling y'all because y'all were not patient with the stream, you didn't see it and it wasn't streamed.

Like the content came to us, and y'all were not having it because of a lack of patience.

Whenever I fucking say there's an IRL, everyone has to get on that shit because nature itself is giving us content.

And like, I cannot have this thing where y'all are not showing up to the IRLs.

Because this is like golden content that would be eternal memories forever.

So.

No, he didn't recognize us actually.

He did not recognize us.

That's the crazy thing.

He didn't recognize us.

Um

Never mind.

All right.

Sorry, I just got a funny message.

All right.

Sorry.

Sorry.

Oh, man.

Um so yeah, I mean uh yeah, that was a fun night.

And then I think uh what did we do?

Yeah, we went.

Strail Stanley's up there was like a Texas Airbnb.

Um

It was a really nice place.

It was like in the middle of a giant field.

And uh, you know, we kicked it back, had cigars.

We were uh we went to we we left early though because we had to get up for the horses in the morning, right?

So that's another thing Maddie signed us up for.

She she she put together this thing.

So there were two groups, you know.

Uh, one group was riding horses, but their slots got filled up.

So, another group went hiking.

So, Amarillo has this like canyon that's like the second biggest after the Grand Canyon.

So, they were hiking through Death Valley basically with like all the fucking rad scorpions and shit, like dying of heat stroke.

We thought they died, I don't know what happened.

Um, and then we were riding our horses like up to the canyon, but not down into it, so we were overlooking them like aristocratic, nomadic kings.

Strell Sandy, what's going on?

Anyway, um

I rode a horse for the first time in my life, okay?

And my only regret is that they didn't allow me to like fully charge with the horse at full speed.

But something was stirring inside of me.

I don't know what it was, ancestral blood memory.

I knew how to fucking ride this horse.

Like, I knew the vibe.

I understood the horse's vibes.

I got it.

I knew what I had to do.

Like, I started running with the horse.

I didn't even ask them how to do that.

They had they gave us instructions on how to ride these horses just to like walk.

I knew how to make it run.

So I started going at a higher speed.

Every single time it was like, what time is it, Mr.

Fox?

She would like turn around and she would be like, stop it.

It was so funny, like me and the Oklahoma guy, uh, Woody, we'd be like we'd be we'd be uh running with the horses and then would they turn around and be like, Whoa, we can't control this horse, it's just running on its own Anyway,

Um, this horse, I I I wanted to book it full speed, Tartaria style.

Like my ancestral blood memory was calling for me to just like ride in the wind.

And I I really don't like that I wasn't able to do that.

Like

I wanted to charge full speed.

Like, I, this, this, it was, it felt so natural.

Riding, being on this horse felt so natural.

Like, I, but, like, ancestral blood memory kicking in, it was crazy.

Um.

So, look, let me tell you, yeah, karmic memory, whatever it is.

Anyway, and then, um,.

Uh, I think that's the same day we also went shooting, went to the range.

PJ, the baste, brought like a fucking silencer, like some 007 shit.

We had an AR-15 in 223 that was fun to shoot.

Uh, we had another rifle that was nine-millimeter.

We were just shooting for like an hour, we were just like wasting rounds, and that was fun.

We just went to the range, it was fun.

Now, was it the same as Russia where I could just unload full auto in the middle of a fucking field without any restrictions?

No, but

It was still quite fun.

And uh so we were doing that.

Uh you know before then I think we had lunch and then they had a barbecue back at their the at their uh Airbnb.

They made these really good burgers and we were all like kicking we were just at that point we were chilling 'cause we had nothing to do in the morning.

So we were just kicking it back and then I I had a lot of ideas.

So there's this giant open field.

I was like let's go get fireworks but all firework places were closed so that didn't work.

And then I told Maddie, I was like, listen, the neighbors right there, they have horses.

Like, their neighbors, like, far away, you could walk there.

They had, like, a horse stable.

And I told her, I was like, I want to ride a horse and I want to go fast.

So we had an idea.

I was like, listen, I brought her and two other white guys.

And I was like, you guys need to go or or she needs to go to the door because we kinda look scary.

And she needs to say that I'm like from out of town and that I'm like some Eastern European guy who's visiting and that she needs to charm them and you know the whole southern solidarity.

She needs to like tell them that it's like um it's it's my birthday and that uh I want to ride a horse and it's my my dream my whole life.

Uh, and the first idea was her telling them that I was retarded and that you know it would be so nice because he always talks about horses and he's yelling about horses.

But we didn't do that because then we realized they wouldn't let us ride the horse if you know because it's a safety hazard.

So we went with the second idea, and you know, these are like rural old white people, you know.

So this was an operation.

I just brought the white people for this operation, you know.

Um

Not that I'm accusing them of the old people of racism.

I just, you got to be safe, right?

But that plan failed because by the time we got there, they were like sleeping and the gate was closed.

And if we crossed it, they had the right to shoot us.

So it didn't happen.

But it was still a fun night.

It was still fun.

We did karaoke.

No, we actually didn't.

We were gonna do karaoke where uh like we were like a panel of judges, but we didn't do it because uh I we realized we didn't want to hear people sing.

Um

It was a fun night.

Oh

You know, it's like it's fun through laughter.

You know, we're laughing a lot.

Yeah, it was Orvo was there.

Like, Orvo, you guys like Orvo's the most hilarious guy in the world, but he actually doesn't laugh that much.

And when he's cooking the craziest memes, he's actually like he has a straight face the entire time.

I saw it in person.

So Orvo the based was there.

A lot of based people were there.

Everyone who was there was based actually.

Everyone was super chill and

What can I say?

It was like a cookout.

We had a bar we Oh, let me tell you, there's a missing s part of the story.

Next door to us, like right next door, there was another Airbnb, and it was this giant Mexican family that rented it out for the birthday party of their Abuela or something, right?

So they had a Mexican band that was like, and they were like singing, they had that whole band with all those instruments and shit.

It was super loud, it was super lit and based.

They were bringing the energy.

So we went over there.

And like we met them, we introduced ourselves, and we were just like.

They were like, y'all can help yourselves to our food and y'all can chill with us and like run it up with us.

And it was like super cool.

So we were just like going back and forth, this like neighbor's giant Mexican cookout/slash birthday party.

I met a dude randomly, by the way, who was like a Mexican dude who was like in Russia.

Like, knew a lot about Russia for some reason.

So, we were, it was crazy, like, how what a small world it is.

Um, so that was a super fun experience, you know.

Uh, and if I'm honestly, if you didn't attend that, you missed out, like, straight up.

I'm not gonna like lie to you or sell it to you otherwise.

Uh, if you had the opportunity to go, but like, got cold feet and were like, nah, I'm not gonna, you straight up missed out, like, for real.

Um

Like really you did.

That was an extremely enlightening to one or two weeks or something.

Like super enlightening.

It was Death Stranding 2.

It was Metal Gear Solid.

I was in the that desert southwest environment.

It was like some Wild West shit, literally.

Super good vibes.

User Tom, what's up?

And it really reminded me of the golden era of infrared.

It was just this golden environment.

And I was like, damn, this is like infrared vibes back in the day.

Like, this is what it was all.

This was literally the environment where I was when I was dreaming about CPUSA 2036, like this was the environment I had in my vision, you know?

And it's so important for this vision and for this project.

Because I feel like this is where a new America is going to be born.

You know, this is.

This is where the soul of our country, the future of our country, you know, that's where it's going to come from.

And um you could tell there's just like a completely different

um vibe there where like people are very open to very alternative timelines in terms of politics and state building and state construction.

Because it's just such a different it's like the Wild West, but the frontier closed, but this barbaric element still remains, which has not been fully civilized yet.

And can't be because America's civilizing mission westward was an attempt to impose, you know, the the the vestiges of European colonialism onto this new land.

And the people that actually came and settled permanently did adapt to the land and become more barbaric.

You know, according to the East Coast stand, like the East Coast is a totally different world than the Southwest.

Southwest is very barbaric in the most based possible way.

Um.

Honestly, the Oklahoma guys are actual like step barbarians.

Like this dude told me that he ripped a cricket's head off and ate it raw.

And that the cricket was still moving in his throat and I just looked at him, I was like

But honestly, it's like they're the Taliban.

Like this is the American Taliban.

This dude ate a cricket.

'Cause uh in Amarillo they had the giant crickets that were attacking me 'cause I was I don't know why.

They're like giant crickets.

They kept jumping on me and like terrorizing me.

Specifically, they were jumping on me.

And

Um, he was talking about how he would eat those motherfuckers, and I was like, What the hell?

Shit, we're gonna have to adapt to that.

And then somebody else started talking.

They were like, Yeah, you know, ant burgers aren't that bad.

If you have to and you're in the wild, if you just take a bunch of ants and cook them and make them into a burger, it's definitely livable and you could survive off it.

And I was like, Oh shit, we're gonna be in store for a real struggle when shit kicks off.

Like, when shit kicks off, it's gonna be tough, all right?

So, for the time that we have, we should be trying to live as best as we can.

Straight up, because this is like the Stalinist American Taliban.

That's what we're going to become.

I didn't see any armadillos.

That's a good question.

I should have asked.

I should've asked where the armadillos are.

I saw a lot of the spotted whatever they're called, the fat lizards, I don't the toads, spotted toads, I don't know what they're called.

I've made a bet with Darg about tarantulas.

Because when we went on the hike, I was fear-mongering about tarantulas before I came to Iamarilla.

I'm like, man, this is where all those tarantulas are.

Like big, disgusting spiders.

And I'm like, I know I'm going to see some tarantula bullshit.

And I'm ready for it.

But it's not going to be pretty.

And I kept telling Darg that on our hike we're going to see tarantulas.

And he's like, all right, you want to bet?

And I was like, yeah.

And I said, let's bet dinner.

You know, when we go out to the steakhouse, who pays for who?

And he won the bet.

There were no tarantulas.

I gotta get my f over my fear of the bug.

Uh I'm gonna be real, like, those crickets that was crazy.

They were like jumping on me.

It's one thing to just see them and be grossed out by them.

It's another for them to literally jump on you.

Like, like, literally attacking you.

Spartacus is ready to debate.

Tell him to get in VC.

Tell him to get in V C, where's he at?

Yeah, these bitch ass people that challenge me

Uh to debate.

Where are they at?

Comrade Banana, what's up?

Okay, tell him to get in VC.

Tom, this is Danny Shaw's friend, by the way.

That's what this is.

That's why he has a problem with us because he was Danny Shaw's friend.

So let's bring this guy on.

Tell him again VC.

Or if he doesn't wanna get in the Discord I guess we have to do a space, right?

Uh I guess we gotta do a space.

Alright.

Alright, I'll do the I'll I'll literally open the space right now.

If he's not gonna get in show queue I'll just open the Twitter space.

Flying ant, what's going on?

Anyway y'all.

Alright.

So I started the space straight up.

Space has been started.

Here it is.

Copy the link right here.

Put it right here.

Here's a space.

So tell this dude to get in the space and, you know.

And there we go.

Like what more is there to say?

I'm in the space right now.

Apparently these people are saying that uh Oh, why isn't he hosting the space?

Here I am.

I'm gonna make Rev co-host in case he can see people that I can't.

Um if they show up and I can't see them and they're requesting and I can't see.

So we're gonna bring him up.

And we're gonna see who stands on business and what.

'Cause you know, sometimes people can't do Discord 'cause they always make these excuses.

So this is gonna be the test.

You don't show up, you're a little bitch.

Straight up.

These people saying that you notice that they they claim that I didn't uh you know what these little bitch ass people said?

They said Haz uh canceled his confront the chairman on on last Thursday.

You mean the Thursday that I was flying on a fucking plane?

Um

What are you talking about?

It's fucking stupid.

Like when I was, even if I wasn't flying, I wasn't home.

Stupid ass thing to say.

Like, I'm here though.

I couldn't wait to get home and start a space, though.

They say this shit when I'm traveling because they're pussies.

They literally have gynecomastia.

They're literally estrogenic little bitches.

And they feel emasculated just by my existence because I remind them what little bitches they are.

Because they have no confidence.

They don't walk with swagger.

They don't walk with confidence.

They walk with misery and depression.

Bring this little bitch on.

What's the holdup?

Uh tell me what the holdup is.

Where's he at?

Where's this dude at?

Where's he at?

We don't know.

Uh only being Rev.

I invited you to co host.

I'll invite Sewell to co-host.

Or like actually let me uh Buffalo.

Apparently you're the guy talking to this retard.

Alright.

Where you at?

Where's the dude at?

Where's he at?

Sounds scared.

Should

Yo, is this guy gonna show up or what?

Hello?

I think there was another guy too.

There's like supposedly another guy claiming that he's going to show up and debate.

When I was in California, he was saying that I was dodging him because I didn't do my confront the chairman while I was 30,000 feet in the air.

So where are these people?

Where are they at?

Because I'm hosting this shit right now.

See, imagine me, a little bitch.

You're so scared of me.

You got to wait till I'm traveling.

Like, oh, he just wants to bait me.

Is that how you cope?

Is that what you tell yourself to feel like a man, you little bitch?

Just admit you're a pussy.

You got all this nasty shit to say to me, and you got all this big keyboard nonsense.

You can't even confront me with your voice.

These little bitches are talking about fighting, and you can't fucking fight me with your vocal cords, you pussy.

Why the fuck would I take you seriously?

Talking about fighting, but you're nervous to speak.

Hey, I'm going to take that seriously as a challenge.

Get the fuck out of here, bitch.

I'm going to take a fight challenge seriously, but you can't even speak.

Sure.

People don't know that I actually stand on business, though.

That's the crazy thing.

That's the crazy thing.

Anyway, we're waiting.

We're waiting.

He says he's in Discord.

Okay, he's not in the he's not in the fucking uh he's not in the show queue.

He ain't in the show queue.

Y'all can see the show queue.

He's not there.

Who is he?

Who's he trying to fool?

He's not in show queue.

He said he's in Discord.

Where?

He ain't in show Q.

Nobody's in ShoQ and everyone can see that.

Where's he at?

Ay no excuses.

He's trying to lie, he's like trying to lie and be like, Oh, I'm just there, but no one can see me.

It's like, but everyone can see the the VCs.

Everyone can see them, bro.

People are so scared of me.

I'm just I've gotten used to it.

I'm like, whenever I hear someone's challenge, oh, where, where, where?

Because it never happens because people are fucking terrified to speak to me because they're pussies.

Uh where where's he at?

Where's he at?

Where's he at?

Y'all see how it is though?

Like, not a single one of these people that talk shit ever show up.

They never show up.

Like, oh, I don't show at midnight.

I've been speaking for like 90 minutes and nobody showed up.

Like, you know, the whole time when I stream, you can show up.

Nobody ever does.

All you got to do is hop in chat, be like, yo, I'll debate you right now.

I'll debate you right now.

Simple as that.

But nobody ever shows up because they're pussies.

It's crazy.

Damn.

Damn.

So y'all, it's it's actually boring.

I got I got you know.

You just gonna make me the villain that everyone fears?

Why do you gas me up like this and boost my profile as the undefeated warlord?

'Cause that's all this proves, is that I'm the undefeated warlord and I am stepping on your neck with my shoe and you're on the ground and I'm spitting on you.

That's all that's going on.

You see how they fear me?

You see how these cockroaches scatter in the face of light?

I can't believe it he didn't show up.

What a fucking pussy.

So every time you've ever encountered this guy and he's typing on his keyboard, now you know what these people are made of.

They're pieces of shit.

Oh, where is this guy?

Let me see.

Are there any updates?

No fucking way.

The whole screen, the dude was saying that he's ready to debate.

He's been waiting for you, but once you went live on Twitter, he disappeared.

Yeah, where he disappeared then.

Yeah, it was like five minutes ago.

He said, I'm waiting.

Now he's gone.

He said, Yup, I'm there.

Tell him to hurry up nine minutes ago.

He never joined the show queue.

Unbelievable.

So this dude's just not going to show up.

As soon as I c uh called this bitch ass shit talker out, he fled.

He disappeared.

That's crazy.

That's crazy.

Y'all, I'm still undefeated.

I haven't gone to the gym in two weeks.

I'm still undefeated.

I'm still undefeated, y'all.

It's as simple as that.

People talk big.

I get excited.

Like, oh shit, you're going to challenge me?

You didn't do shit.

People talk big.

I got excited while I was away.

I was like, I can't wait to get home and have these people stand on business.

So I'll I'll fight you, Haas.

Really?

And you're scared to confront me with your voice?

And I'm gonna take a fight challenge seriously when you're scared to even utter a word at me from your fucking computer miles and miles away, you pussy?

You're on that level of bitch made that you have social anxiety

To fucking speak through the internet and you're a tough guy who's gonna fight in real life, shut the fuck up, bitch, not a single person has ever done shit.

In terms of confronting me in real life.

This dude's probably waiting for me to end this space so he can say that.

Oh!

Now I'm ready.

You're a pussy, dude.

You're a fucking pussy.

Okay, I'll make sure you're gonna get a little bit of a discord.

He ain't in show key.

In VC chat.

Okay, let me see.

He's in VC chat.

I'm here.

Okay, get in VC.

Finally.

Kick dot com slash infrared, he's probably not going to show up in the space.

Bro, what is going on?

Let's see.

I'm here.

He's in the V C chat in the Discord.

But he's not responding.

Yeah.

Johnny the commie, what's going on?

These people are terrified.

Why am I th why am I so scary?

People are so afraid of a superior Afroasiatic intelligence 'cause I'm gonna systematically dismantle them and make them feel fucking stupid.

But then why talk shit in the first place?

You know what I mean?

Talk shit, then stand on something.

Don't talk shit and have nothing to stand on.

Then you're a bitch, right?

Bro, he messaged one thing in VC chat, he's not clicking show cue, he's not clicking anything.

This is goofy.

Yeah, he's playing games.

This is somebody playing games, not somebody serious about debating.

This is somebody playing games.

But what can you expect?

What can you explain?

Bro, people ask why, like, the community we have is, like, so, like, like, like, like, tribal and shit.

Because everybody sees this kind of shit.

Like, it's so you want to destroy infrared.

It's so simple.

Then fucking debate me and win.

Just actually sh confront me and literally be more compelling.

And, like, I promise you, my community will splinter and scatter and people will not respect me as much as they do.

But, like, when everybody constantly sees these bitch-made moves, like Jay Dyer, all these pussies, just leprechauns that are doing these tricks to avoid debating me, it can't help but inspire some confidence that I'm actually a guy who knows what I'm talking about because people are fucking terrified to even have any kind of confrontation with me.

Like, people are trying to plot and scheme all the time to, like, destroy our movement.

And it's like, all you have to do is fuck here.

He is finally.

What a bitch.

Guys, go to kick.com slash infrared.

He's now in the show.

Uh he's in the Discord.

So y'all gotta watch it on kick.

I can't transmute this shit.

Onto uh

Onto onto onto X.

Go into my Discord if you want to debate me after this guy.

All right.

Alright, where you why are you mute?

Why are you mute?

I don't think it's mute.

What up, pussy?

We can hear you now.

Oh, that's not very respectful now, is it?

But you was talking a lot of shit on X, weren't you?

Weren't you talking about how you're everyone's dad?

You're going to destroy me.

You're going to crush me.

So go ahead.

You don't respect the workers.

You don't fucking work, asshole.

And you don't respect the workers.

You don't work, asshole.

And does Danny Shaw work?

Now you sound like Danny Shaw work?

Does that bum Danny Shaw heroin addict work?

Shut the fuck up.

Yo, wasn't he a professor at a university?

Is that work?

You're claiming that's work?

Hold on.

Let's be calm.

I'll be calm for you.

You're claiming a professor does real work, but a streamer doesn't.

You're a joke.

A streamer actually works harder than a lazy bum ass professor who's sitting on the street.

All right, what about Professor Michael Hudson?

What do you got to say about him?

Professor Hudson is working.

Nothing.

Nothing.

I do have something to say.

Why are you afraid of my response?

Hudson is respected on the merits of his actual contribution to thought and to theory, not virtue signaling how hard he's sweating while he's using his pencil to write.

But the content of what he's writing is what we respect.

Now, Danny Shaw is a retard who has never contributed anything to theory or philosophy or to economics.

So now you're talking about how your party says that your definition of work by your 5 a.m.

in the morning and make food and drink for people aren't productive.

Tell me how that works.

If they're productive, then I'm productive as long as someone's paying me a wage to do this by your definition.

All that would be required for me to be.

See, okay.

According to your definition, all that would need to happen for me to be a proletarian, productive laborer by your definition, is that I get paid a wage for streaming the way I do.

Which years are productive, bankers are productive.

What's the difference?

Do you agree on that?

Yeah, I absolutely regard them as unproductive.

But what's the dividing line?

Why aren't they productive?

Why aren't bankers productive?

They're not adding surplus value.

Bank tellers that get paid a wage to work at the cash the register.

Why aren't they productive laborers by your definition?

Even though they're getting productive.

So you told me by your definition.

No, you're the one who's challenging me.

You're the one who wanted to debate.

So you explain that to me.

What makes them unproductive by your definition of what a productive laborer is?

Because by your definition of a productive laborer, which Marx contradicts various times throughout the year.

They act as an intermediary.

They act as a cashier, essentially.

They're not adding value to any kind of a...

Why not?

Tangible commodity.

So, okay, according to you, tangibility is what decides whether someone's a productive laborer versus an unproductive laborer.

Necessarily.

Not necessarily.

What about nurses?

What about teachers?

Good question.

What about you having a rigorous, consistent definition of what a productive proletarian laborer is?

You don't have one.

Let's get away from the theoretical.

Let's get into the practical because you're heading up a political party, no?

Okay.

No, let's stay in the theoretical.

Why are we moving from the theoretical to the practical?

You're a dumbass on the internet who's never going to be able to do it.

None of you or any of your guys are ever going to agree on it.

You're going to piss off 12 million workers saying that they're unproductive.

And you're focused on 80,000 Dreams.

When's the last time I've talked about baristas being unproductive?

When's the last time I talked about that?

You're the one crying.

Your ass is deleting.

You're the one who's...

I thought you're going to be respectful.

You're not respectful.

You're a disrespectful little shit who doesn't work.

You get up at noon every day.

But all I would have to do to be a productive laborer by your definition is to get paid a wage.

That's exactly what I do.

We just establish that.

We just established.

Why not?

But tell me why, from the perspective of your theory, why not?

All I'd have to do is get paid a wage by some company that employs streamers and makes a profit off of it in order to be a productive laborer by your definition.

So physically speaking, everything that I'm doing physically is not necessarily unproductive, according to you.

It's just that I don't work for a company that pays me a wage that makes me unproductive.

By your definition, not mine.

Baristas are productive.

By what?

By your definition.

Are you an NPC?

I'm explaining your theory to you and why, according to your theory.

No, according to my definition, they're unproductive.

I'm just going off of your definition and applying it to me consistently.

You're claiming that I don't work.

I assume you mean physically speaking, right?

But by your own definition of what constitutes real work, physical exhaustion has nothing to do with it.

It's just about whether you work for a company and get paid a wage or a salary that automatically makes you a productive proletarian by your definition.

So by your definition, all a lazy streamer like myself would have to do to be a real worker by your definition is work for a company and get paid a wage.

No, you're using...

You're getting lost in the theory now.

Can you ex what what is wrong about my refutation of your theory?

Explain how yours is consistent then.

From a Marxist perspective, the question of whether bank tellers are productive hinges on how Marx defined productive labor under capitalism.

They don't add surplus value.

Why not?

How do baristas add surplus value, but not bank tellers who work for a wage at a bank?

What?

How do you know?

Based on what calculation?

Because according to the theory you're coming from, all it takes is for socially necessary labor time to be crystallized in a commodity, which according to you can be a service as well, right?

And you know, for that to be paid to the laborer in the form of a wage, and for profit to be realized, which you claim is always surplus value.

Um

So by this definition

If a CEO, for example, wasn't getting stock dividends and was just being paid a salary, that's a productive proletarian laborer by your definition.

By your definition, anyone who's an employee of an enterprise and gets paid a salary or a wage is a productive proletarian laborer.

No, I just told you that's not my definition.

You're putting words in my mind.

Tell me what your definition is.

What a productive laborer is.

You want my definition of what someone who creates surplus value.

Okay.

So why don't bank tellers create surplus value?

And how how do you measure whether someone's creating surplus value?

Can you explain that to me?

How do you measure it?

Yeah, how do you know if surplus value is being created?

How do you know if there's surplus value being created?

they're creating they're creating surplus value from their labor how do you know that's added to the product that they're selling.

And how how can we know there's being surplus value created?

Well, why don't you just why don't you just use the barista example?

You can use any example you want, but you have to apply it consistently.

If you use any you can you can use any example you want.

I'm just saying that you have to apply it consistently for your definition to be rigorous and comprehensive and logically coherent.

So whatever you're applying to these baristas has to also apply and you're by your own definition baristas are productive.

You can't quantify that.

You haven't heard my definition of anything.

You haven't heard my definition.

And let's hear what it is.

Okay, according to my definition of what productive labor is, productive labor is labor that valorizes capital, meaning it not only realizes profit, but initiates the process by which capital can actually accumulate and thereby spread and expand.

Okay, so that the process of the extraction of labor in the first place can have the ability to expand.

So labor has to have the quality of not only paying for itself, but producing surplus value in the form of capital's valorization.

So to me, that's the definition of surplus value.

And that's not always the same as making a profit, which Marx points out numerous times throughout all three volumes of capital.

In Capital Volume 2, Marx gave examples of unproductive laborers in the form of commercial workers.

He said that even though they're being paid, he said, even though they get paid a wage and even though what they're doing is necessary for the realization of profit, they're not actually productive laborers.

They're not actually transforming the material world in any kind of way.

And because their labor doesn't actually valorize capital, it's a cost of production.

Right, but can I interject?

Yeah.

A worker may produce socially useful goods.

But is unproductive if the goods aren't commodified, which is why we would say, you know, cashiers.

Bank teller.

Banks are selling a bank teller or the person working at the bank is selling a service.

The bank is selling a service through them.

They're providing a service.

They're helping people open their bank accounts.

They're helping people withdraw money.

You name it, whatever.

So, what makes what they do unproductive by your definition?

But baristas are productive.

Hey, okay.

Now we're getting somewhere.

So.

If I say I were to concede that bank tellers are productive, they're exploited.

Now, tell me why a barista isn't.

Okay, so come on.

But but you okay, look, all I'm doing is rolling with your arguments.

You notice that's all I'm doing?

You open this whole entire segment saying, how dare you criticize, how dare you claim baristos are unproductive, but you're an unproductive streamer.

You don't work.

What you implied is that what I do is not physically exhausting.

You know, I have it easy.

I'm a streamer after all.

But all I had to point out was that your argument is incoherent.

All I would have to do to be qualified as a real worker by your retarded definition of what productive labor is, is get paid a wage and work for a company.

And I could physically be doing the same thing that I'm doing now, but by your definition, I would be just as much of a productive laborer as a barista or now a bank teller.

Right?

So, so right off the bat, you basically came onto the show, into VC, and you just shit your pants in public.

And that's all that's happened.

Okay, now you tell me why a barista isn't productive if a bank teller is.

I would say that nine okay.

When have I said bank tellers are productive?

You think I think bank tellers are productive labor?

You're saying my definition.

You're giving me my definition, which isn't even my definition.

All I'm doing is holding you to account to the definition you give me.

You have to just apply it consistently.

You don't get to pick and choose when it's inconvenient.

You have to make sure you have a logical and sound comprehension of how you're qualifying what productive and unproductive labor is.

So if something, if you're saying, well, baristas are productive.

Bank tellers are unproductive.

So you're not conceding that?

You're going to continue with that?

Yes.

Okay, but what makes them unproductive but baristas are productive?

Well, for one, they remain exploited, overworked, underpaid, sure.

Their role sustains capitalism's system.

And they bring extraction elsewhere.

Who who are you talking about?

Bank tellers.

Okay.

You don't want to talk about baristas.

But we're going to have to do it.

The definition you just gave of bank tellers also applies to baristas.

How so?

I you don't even let me finish.

Okay, the teaching of productivity isn't a moral judgment.

It reveals how capitalism misdirects labor toward maintaining its own structures.

you know, rather than the social needs.

The bank clerk is a proletarian.

But his labor does not create surplus value.

He's a cog in the machine that redistributes that wealth upwards.

Okay, why is it that they're aren't producing surplus value, but baristas are?

Or why do you think?

I'm asking you.

It's your argument.

I'm just asking you to be consistent about what you're telling me.

Well, what did you ask?

Why is it that Okay, for example, you claimed that bank tellers help reproduce the system, right?

Well, so do baristas.

Obviously, they do.

They contribute to the capitalist supply chains that exploit third world farmers where Starbucks gets their coffee beans from.

And they help valorize or they at least contribute to the process of the fictitious capital that is the Starbucks stock value and they they're part of the system just as much.

So you're I think your definition is completely arbitrary and you you know it it actually goes against the linchpin of the you know the the unproductive or the I guess the pro-barista side it's kind of absurd to qualify it like that.

Well service let's call them service workers.

It goes against your argument.

If you're gonna claim that bank tellers are unproductive but baristas are productive, then your your definit your your your argument in defense of barista labor being productive is inconsistent because you're not applying it to cases where it actually would qual uh barista labor by your definition is productive.

The same one that you use to maintain the view that baristas are productive also applies to bank tellers.

From a from a Marxist perspective, that's just not I mean I get it, Karl Marx's

Dead and gone two hundred years ago.

The distinction between bank dollars and baristas hinges on how their labor interacts with the capital, specifically whether it creates new surplus value or merely circulates existing value.

Yeah, but why aren't w how is it that Starbuck baristas are not just recirculating existing value?

How is this?

Just like commercial workers.

Well, Mark said that's what commercial workers are doing in Volume 2 of Capital.

So how do you know that they're producing surplus value versus recycling it as a as a mere expense, as a mere cost of production?

You have to actually look at what they're doing.

You have to look at the cost.

So you would agree that the physical aspect does matter.

But if the physical aspect matters, then your entire argument collapses.

If the physical is so decisive, and we're not just talking about the value form of capital or the commodity anymore, which is what the pro-barista side does, they resort to this kind of value form theory that came from the German Zionists.

Like post own, and he came from that school.

If that's the case, and the physical does actually matter, then what baristas are doing is absolutely unproductive because all of the actual labor is being done in the growing, in the manufacturing, just pouring shit in a cup of coffee that service does not.

Have you seen what these people do?

They're the cashier.

They're the grinding the beans.

But all they're doing is taking the finished products of actual labor and turning it into a service performance.

So that's physically, physically, that's what they're doing, physically speaking.

I'm not going to sit here and say that baristas are more exploited than.

The people who are picking the beans out of it.

Why?

Okay, so you clearly don't have a coherent argument.

You're super angry about me and ass hurt and crying.

And you're obsessed with baristas.

I haven't talked about them in years, but you have many.

You're crying because Danny Shaw, your master, didn't teach you autism well.

This is why you're going to lose people.

Because that's how you talk to people and treat people.

Why do you talk so much?

Pull up the screenshots.

Do you want me to talk?

Hey, pull up this, guys.

Pull up the screenshots of all that crazy.

He was talking like he was going to rape.

You were like threatening rape, dude.

You were like some crazy shit.

I'm going to bash your skull and fucking stick my nuts on your face and I'm going to do this and I'm going to do that.

He was saying crazy shit on the fucking keyboard.

But when he comes on fucking VC, he's this much of a pussy that he's talking about respect.

Have I called you any of those?

Have I resorted to that yet?

Yes, you have.

You just didn't do it with your voice, you fucking pussy.

You don't respect me.

You did do that shit.

You're just not doing it with your voice because you're a pussy.

You did type that out.

Well, I've got kids and I've got people sleeping in my house.

If you don't want to keep the energy, if you don't want to keep that, if you don't want to keep, yeah, is that what Danny Shaw told you?

Is that what Danny Shaw told you?

Fucking idiot.

You can keep that sleep.

You can keep that same energy.

You want respect.

He was a great leader.

That guy in Colorado.

You, you, he was completely respectful, and you lost your shit.

Okay, yeah, and you were listening.

I can tell why you're unable to understand anything about Marxism.

You were presented with about 90 seconds, and you think that's some kind of exhaustive context for anything that's happened.

You're an idiot, you're like an NPC.

Anyone can deceive you and trick you however they want.

You're just an easy target to manipulate because you just see some shit, you don't even know what's going on, and you think you know the facts because it's being presented in a certain way.

I, I, I like you didn't even investigate, you didn't even listen to you and and Jackson Inkel.

You're my best friend, basically, my best friend.

No, no.

I've been listening to you guys for years.

I'm going to smear him into the middle.

I'm going to smear him into the sidewalk like the little spider that he is.

Yep.

You said you wanted to be respectful.

I I could talk like a 15-year-old.

Because you're not willing to actually engage the content of the debate.

I don't care about you personally.

I don't give a fuck about who you are personally.

Engage with the debate itself.

Okay.

So.

You guys think it's smart to charge people fifteen dollars a month when CPUSA only charges five?

Is that smart?

I thought you were upset about baristas.

Are we just abandoning that now and going on something else?

Well, you wanted to go on some tirade about something else.

Because you're not even developing...

You're not even maintaining your argument.

You're so upset about this nonsense.

I don't even care about it.

By the way, look.

You should drop your prices.

You charge too much.

Okay.

You're going to get out-competed by CPUSA.

I guess that's going to be on us.

I guess we're just going to suffer then that fifteen dollars a month for recruits is just it's just too steep.

No one can afford that.

I guess we're you're right.

Well, that's something to consider.

Notice something also, like this whole barista thing.

Notice how instead of like attacking baristas, which we don't do, all we're doing is just organizing the workers that we think are decisive and strategic.

Instead of like attacking baristas, we're just positively doing what we think advances the workers' movement.

And you're still crying about the fact that we don't consider baristas the vanguard of the workers' movement and we're not expending all of our resources on Starbucks workers.

It's like you went out of your way to do what?

To do what?

To say that we should prioritize truck drivers and steel.

To say that we should prioritize blue-collar workers over baristas in terms of our activity and our work, that in no way attacks baristas.

Workers aren't blue-collar workers.

That's high human.

Baristas are blue-collar workers.

What?

Wait, did you say baristas are blue-collar workers?

Service workers.

Yeah, work in restaurants.

Okay, sure.

We're trying we prioritize organizing the blue collar working class and you are crying in your asshole about that for some reason.

That's all it's going to be.

I haven't mentioned Barista.

Okay, and I'd still slap the shit out of you if I saw you.

You're five feet two.

Then you can you can just if you saw me you could see the truth.

That's all it would take.

You just you're gonna slap me if you see me?

You're I mean you you say that you don't support violence, but you're threatening violence against me.

Having no knowledge that no, it's a metaphorical slap.

It's a metaphorical slap, you little snitch baby bitch.

You guys respect veterans?

You guys don't respect people who get up at 5 a.m.

and work.

I don't fucking respect pussies that talk shit and then come in VC and pretend to be my best friend.

No, I don't.

What do you want to do?

Are you saying that you want to meet at the gym and settle this?

Is that what you're saying?

No, what I'm saying is that you actually show.

What I'm saying is that you actually show and demonstrate you have an intelligent position in arguing about that justifies your anger and your hatred and your vitriol and your threat.

You at least have listen, buddy.

You're so angry.

You're so angry at me.

I'm crying.

You're crying and seething.

I don't hear Richard Wolf talking about that.

You're seething.

I don't give a fuck about boomers.

That's why you're seething and you're crying all because of this theoretical argument about 10 years.

You're seething and crying about.

People are younger than you come and talk to me and they're like, I fucking hate that guy.

It's like a frat club.

Now, you guys have potential.

Why are you scared to hear the truth?

Why are you scared to hear the truth about why you deserve no respect?

I'm telling you the truth and you are losing it.

You told me to tell the truth, buddy.

Okay, I'll tell you the truth, buddy.

The reason why I don't respect you is because what I expect you to do coming in my VC is actually have a rigorous...

I respect you.

I expect you to have a rigorous theoretical argument that justifies your disrespect that you used with your keyboard.

Meaning you should have your theoretical shit together and not embarrass yourself.

You came into my VC and you shit your pants publicly.

Now look retrospectively.

Look retrospectively at all the shit you were talking on X about how stupid I am and how wrong I am about theory.

You'd think you'd at least have a decent argument to back up all that shit you were talking.

But you came into my VC.

You came into my VC and you just shit your pants.

You wouldn't even take it on.

You want to talk about bank tellers, which we both agree on.

What I wanted to talk about was streamers.

Hey, hey, hey, buddy.

I wanted to talk about streamers because remember your opening argument.

You don't work, Haas.

You're a streamer.

But by your definition, what I'm physically doing would be identical to true real work.

All I'd have to do is work for a company and get paid a wage to fit your definition of real work.

You fucking loser.

Like, how stupid is that?

Imagine thinking a streamer is a productive laborer and a proletarian, which I've never claimed.

You think that me streaming is real work?

Is that what you think?

All I'd have to do is get paid a wage and work for a company and all of a sudden I'm I'm I'm the same as as a person who fucking uh lays bricks and builds houses and fucking drives trucks and uh and and works in mines and I'd be the same as that, as all I'd have to do is get paid a wage and work for a company and I could just turn my camera on and dance and I'm the same as them.

You're you're mi completely misrepresenting it.

That's your definition but that's the that's the definition that you angrily use to justify talking shit with your uh fingers on the keyboard.

Yeah, why don't you why don't you show what your buddies said?

I mean, you you take one little thing that I said because your friend, whoever he is,

Talks a whole bunch of shit.

He does the exact same thing you do.

He starts the shit talking and then I say a couple things and then you literally said you said a lot of things that were extremely like weird.

You were saying that you're our daddy.

You want me to apologize?

No, I don't want a grown man.

I don't want no, I don't want a grown man who has kids to humiliate.

I don't want for your kids' sake, I don't want you to humiliate yourself for generations to come, your entire lineage and bloodline to come onto my VC and apologize after talking so much shit.

What I want you to do is actually reflect about how maybe you shouldn't talk so much shit with your fingers if you're not willing to do so with your tongue.

I'm here and I said what I said.

You don't like it.

You don't agree with it.

You know what I'm saying?

Thank you, Trunk.

What's up?

You charge too fucking much.

You talk too fucking much.

Okay.

Who should give a fuck about what you have to say on it?

You think 15 is too much a month?

I don't know what to tell you.

You guys are desperate for content, so that's why I'm here.

If you don't want it, no, as a principle of honor, I was looking forward to debating one person who claimed they were going to challenge and debate me.

Now, you tried to debate me, we tried to get to the bottom of what your understanding of productive labor is from a theoretical perspective.

You fell flat on your face and shit your pants, and now you're here talking about how $15 a month is too much for recruits to pay in terms of dues.

So, here we are.

So i you still haven't explained why baristas aren't productive.

If you're productive by your definition, I haven't even advanced all I I gave you my definition, but we haven't developed anything.

All I've been doing is holding you to account when it comes to your definition.

That's it.

I don't think bank tellers or streamers are productive.

I'm using your definition against you.

That's all I'm doing.

That's what you think.

You think that any time a profit is made and a cost is expended to pay an employee.

No, I al we already established that.

See, this is your thing.

You

You're gish galloping and re and and recycling things that have already been established and trying to, you know, because you know you're doing.

I'm asking the same thing out of you.

And you're not even.

Let me give you a hypothetical.

Let's say someone.

Let's say someone.

Okay, let me move forward.

Let me ask you a question.

Let's say someone was being paid a wage and worked for a company and they provided a certain service.

Now, the service was they were taking a pencil and lifting it two inches and then dropping it.

And they would get paid $5 an hour for this.

And it became a and everyone started buying this service and going to this company that's selling these services.

You're using an example.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

And what's driving the popularity is purely social.

Like it's just like a viral trend on TikTok.

People find it funny and they're actually making money from it.

Is that picking up a pencil up two inches?

Is that a form of productive labor by your definition?

If they're being paid a wage, since it's not like a bank teller who's just recycling money, is that productive labor, by your definition, the pencil?

Right.

Why not?

They're not adding any.

That's subjective, but according, but listen, you just said the subjective thing doesn't matter.

All that matters is whether you know whether, from the perspective of the capitalist, it's a productive, right?

Just like Marx was in presenting in the theories of surplus value, where he was giving Adam Smith's definition of productive labor, not his own, Adam Smith's.

That it's just the perspective of the capitalists.

I mean, if this is making you money, fuck it, it's productive, right?

So, why not?

You know why.

This is I know why for the same reason.

I know why for the same reason that I can confidently say that the service industry is not a form of productive labor.

That service labor is not productive.

Marx's definition of productive labor, it's tied to the social relations of capitalism, not the type of work or its physical output.

No, you're wrong.

It's a dialectical interplay.

It's a dialectical interplay of both.

That's the point of Marx's understanding of productive labor.

He doesn't fully agree with Adam Smith, nor does he fully agree with the physiocrats.

Marx's view comprehensively combines or dialectically synthesizes these perspectives such that the physical transformation materially of the world, he does understand that as.

Labor, that's the definition of labor for him, and productive labor.

And for him, that's the source of capital's valorization, which is something physical.

So, in a sense, the physiocrats were correct to point out a material and physical foundation for political economy.

But for Marx, their problem is that they were focused on one form of labor, which was agriculture, which didn't account for industry, didn't account for technology and the modernization of productive forces and relations.

That doesn't mean Marx abandons the notion of physical labor altogether and that it's all abstract value-form social relations.

It's that he combines the notion of productive labor from political economy, sorry, from Adam Smith and the classical school.

For Marx, that one's too abstract, but it's still an advance in the history of political economy.

And the physiocrats, they're like vulgar materialists.

They're too substantial or too concrete in a way.

Not Marx's definition of concrete, but you get the idea.

Now, what Marx does is that he's combining in his own understanding these two perspectives.

His notion of what productive labor is doesn't discount the aspect of use-value and the physical reality.

It's just such that he doesn't begin dogmatically with a given premise about what is the most privileged form of physical labor.

He doesn't begin there.

He begins with this kind of imminent critique of Adam Smith's political economy in order to arrive at a comprehension of how it is that real physical productive labor in the use-value sense is responsible for the production of value and corresponds to the production of value and surplus value.

So, Marx never, in the writing of capital, actually directly shows how labor directly, directly speaking, in an unmediated way, is valorizing capital.

Not in any of the three volumes of capital does he do that.

Instead, what he does is point out the contradictions of A, the theory of political economy as it had developed thus far, and B, the form of commodity production.

Okay, and for Marx,

This all invariably points to the conclusion, this contradiction that he's pointing out, that there's an element at play that is a driving force or even law of production, which the capitalist commodity form is unable to account for, which is the fact that socially necessary labor at a social scale and at the aggregate.

Is responsible for the valorization of capital.

That's the actual source of capital's valorization.

That's its actual symptom, right?

And that is downstream from the physical transformation of the world in terms of material wealth.

Like, yes, the abstract wealth, which is measured in terms of the abstraction of the commodity form, absolutely does correspond to the physical material wealth of the world that we see.

There is a definite relationship between the two.

But in order to show how one leads to another, how one corresponds to the other, Marx deigns to explore the contradictions within the abstract form of the commodity and of capitalist relations of production as they exist in the form that is at play in production itself through market relations and so on and so on.

He doesn't impose any of his own categories or concepts.

So this is Marx's understanding of

Capitalist political economy.

This is his understanding of the source of capital's valorization.

It actually is based in something that corresponds to material wealth and its production at scale.

Absolutely.

I mean, cups of coffee, the service to produce cups of coffee, and measuring that relative to what it takes to manufacture goods or build roads and highways and stuff like that.

Absolutely, you can compare those two things and understand at face value how one is productive and the other isn't.

Now, it's not enough to just vulgarly point out one and compare it to the other in terms of how physically exhausting one or the other is.

You do have to show through an analysis of commodity production and of capital's valorization and accumulation in general, how that is, which I can, which can be shown actually, which I have made arguments for.

But at the same time, common sense is actually right.

Most people's common sense is correct.

Marx is not here to dismantle your common sense.

He's just here to rationally explain it.

You know, this whole idea from the Zionist value form school, which is Zionist, again, Moishi Postone's notion of structural anti-Semitism, he would say that anyone.

Now you're painting me as a Zionist.

Well, I'm just down against all that.

I'm just trying to educate you a little bit about, you know, you have this anger and animosity toward me about my understanding of productive labor, but you're not aware.

Did I ever say that?

Well, I could see from your tweets.

I could see from your tweets.

You're angry.

You told me I was butthurt and I'm a pussy.

You just read.

You said all this shit.

Buddy, I'm reading this.

You did the same shit you're accusing me of.

Okay.

So don't fucking tell me.

Here I was, but here I was.

I think I was in California at this time.

And I read this tweet from you.

You go, I'm going to crush your daddy's little baby manlet nuts.

He's no soldier firing.

So you're gonna crush you said you're gonna crush my nuts.

Doesn't sound like you're doing that now.

Yeah, because you just keep talking and talking and talking.

But you have nothing to say.

I you're happy to interrupt me.

You're happy to interrupt me whenever you want to, but when I am educating you, you sit down and listen like little bitch you are because you need the education.

If I listen, I'm a bitch.

Yeah, absolutely.

I'm interrupting people.

Because if you had the humility, yes, yes, absolutely.

Absolutely.

For normal, absolutely.

Because you were actually learning something.

Because you were learning something.

And if you had to learn something, you are a little bitch based on how you compare your need and thirst for knowledge to the confidence you exuded in those tweets of yours.

Marx is not.

If you're such a humble and earnest student and learner, why be so disrespectful in your tweets?

Because you're disrespectful.

I've seen how you act.

And you're being, you said you're going to be disrespectful in this conversation.

You start out with the pussy and the asshurt.

But I'm just going off of I didn't even.

This is the first time I heard your voice in my life.

Before then, all I heard was that you're gonna crush my little baby man lit nuts.

That's all I heard from you.

So, who what kind of person are you?

Uh, the older Marxists stuffed him in a locker from which he will never escape.

Run, like, you're talking a lot of shit, bro.

Like, you're talking a lot of shit.

You, you, you want to dismiss.

Oh, they're boomers.

These guys have been doing it for you.

Yeah, but they're retarded because they're boomers.

Because boomers are retarded.

'Cause they're boomers and they're retarded.

How many followers do you have?

How many followers does does Richard Wolfe have?

And how many do you have?

I will tell you right now that the follower account of a given profile is not as important as the content of what they're actually saying.

Now with Rude Marks, he says that workers' cooperatives solve all problems.

So I'm talking like Richard Wolfe so that you will be respect do you respect me now that I sound like Richard Wolfe who's respectable because he talks like this?

Just you know, it it goes back to

You not having a law degree.

I saw you get I saw you just you are just can I cry for a little bit and he oh my god I don't have a law degree John John whatever his name was productive laborers productive are lawyers productive laborers

All right, but our lawyers, productive laborers He actually writes books.

He gets he he he you know, what what do you do?

You talk shit.

You you disrespect people.

Okay.

I I'm pretty sure I gave you a pretty comprehensive uh short rundown of Marxist theory.

Well don't tell your parents about ACP All right.

So, you know, you said something okay, but are lawyers productive laborers to you?

No.

So what's so sacred about what's so sacred about being a lawyer to you?

Like, why is that so prestigious in your mind?

Why did you waste your money at law school?

You wanted to make money because I wanted to make money.

Yep, exactly.

Yeah.

Do you think I was trying to be a lawyer because I had respect for fucking the bar or some shit?

The British accredited.

Who's that based American guy who was in court, the living man, and he said it's a British accredited whatever?

And he said it's all bullshit and it's unconstitutional.

That guy's so based.

It's true.

But anyway, look, you know, you agree.

You think I respect British accredited, whatever the bar stand?

You think I have this immense respect for the prestige of this British powdered white nonsense?

I don't think I don't respect for anybody.

I don't think you're somebody that people can trust to lead them, is what I think.

Okay.

So why are you crashing out on them because they disagree with you?

Crashing out on what is that?

Wait, like I didn't even know who you were.

You were just like crying at one of the uh one of my comments.

No, your buddy wanted me.

Okay, he went and got his daddy because he he but you were talking shit about me because you were talking shit about me.

You talk shit about me.

You should say it to me.

This guy's talking shit about you.

And then you you're you guys are calling you know what I know for a fact when this debate is over you're gonna go talking shit again with your fucking fingers Why?

Because that's how you are bro I mean I mean i i if i if i continue to see that you guys are making progress that that i'm seeing promise i i will support you i will how have boomers advanced marxism in the past forty years in america

How have you?

I've only been doing this for one year.

ACP five years.

You're talking about infrared for four years?

Okay, in the four years infrared existed, ACP was born.

We created the most uh influential communist subculture that exists.

You know that, right?

We are the most influential capital C communist subculture in America, period.

We have all I wouldn't be trusting.

I didn't think me as worthy.

We have the most meme value per capita.

We are terminally online meme lords.

And we created MAGA Communism.

We created the Mechate.

We created so much.

And all these journalists and people from around the world took interest in it.

'Cause we fucking turning a giving you the cold shoulder.

They're going with more mature Marxists like, you know, Yannis Morifakis.

Um you're not no you're talking about a misunderstanding with a private Chinese media company uh from like fucking a year ago, okay, that was literally cleared up and fixed.

So you're talking about nonsense.

Uh China fucks with us heavy.

A actually the Chinese netizens fuck with us super heavy.

The Chinese youth, they fucking love us.

I've had my shit go viral on Chinese China's uh social media.

I didn't even try.

I'm not even doing it.

Oth there I have literal fans in China that are doing it.

You should be proud of that.

I am.

Why would I not be proud of you?

I can tell.

Now now explain to me

For me, this is this is can we can we you know can we begin with you acknowledging that you regret saying all that bullshit you were typing about me?

No, because it sounds like you're changing your tone sounds like you're changing your tone So you think it was fair to say all that shit you were saying to about me to me it's fair what you said to me in response to you

In response to what you type.

Okay.

You said you're gonna break my nuts, dude.

That's what you said.

You said you're gonna break my nuts.

You said you wanted to be respectful here, but you said you were going to break.

I said, I said, I want to focus on the content of the debate.

Is that what you want me to do?

Because I'd rather focus on the content of the theoretical debate, the substance.

Yes, let's do that.

Let's do that.

This is what you were saying is a crucial and misunderstood point.

Marx explicitly demonstrates how labor valorizes capital in capital volume one.

Most in

Chapter 7 here and chapter 9, he proves labor is the sole source of capital's expansion.

Right.

That's true.

And the dual nature of the commodity production.

He establishes that commodities have use value and utility and exchange value, socially necessary labor.

Okay.

Okay.

So capitalist production aims not for use values, but for exchange value expansion.

We know.

We know.

But the problem is that capitalism, the production for exchange value, runs into contradictions.

For example, one of these contradictions being the tendency for the rate of profit to fall.

And these tendencies actually reveal inadvertently a contradiction between the use value that is necessary for society, according to society, and the exchange value.

So that contradiction reveals itself in what Marx regards as the foundation of a new mode of production based on use value.

So society is at a fork and it has to choose, basically.

This is an extreme simplification at a certain point between production at the level of what's necessary for society as society sees fit.

Versus what's necessary for the valorization of capital, which enters into contradiction with it and thereby itself through the tendency of the rate of profit to fall.

Because the tendency of the rate of the profit to fall is a consequence of overproduction.

Marx regarded that contradiction as incredibly ironic, because overproduction, it's creating more abundance, is creating more wealth.

And yet, in terms of how that's registering at the level of the commodity form and exchange value, it's actually the depletion of wealth.

It's the depletion of value, right?

So Marx regards that as a foundational contradiction of the capitalist mode of production that heralds the inevitability of socialism.

So you're not wrong by rejurgotating Marxism one-on-one, but you're failing to apply to how that proves every single form of employment in 2025 is a form of productive labor as Marx understood it.

But I'm not making that argument.

You are.

You're putting words into my mouth saying that's what I'm saying and that's not what I'm saying.

Do you want me to comprehend it?

Do you want me to comprehensively explain to you why I think baristas are not a form of productive labor?

Yes.

Are you sure that's what you want?

I'm sure that's what I want.

Okay.

I'll try to make it as quick as I can.

So in Capital Volume 3, Marx actually has to sort out the question of, you know, there's this, it's called the transformation problem.

That's what the Austrian economists would later call it.

But setting about to resolve the problem of how the input process of, you know, being paid a wage and realizing a commodity through labor and the sale of that commodity in the form of profit, how is it that at the local level of production, that this leads to a tendency for an average rate of profit, right?

So there's all these disparate forms of production with these disparate magnitudes of labor value.

And you would think that would lead to correspondingly disparate magnitudes of the realization of profit, right?

Corresponding to the disparate magnitudes of value being produced, right?

Because not all labor is producing the same amount of value.

Not all industries and sectors of the capitalist economy are doing so, right?

So Marx resolves this by, you know, pointing out that actually value is not actually being produced at the level of the individual inputs of labor in the first place.

Only from the perspective of the aggregate level of the total production of commodities and the total labor of society, can we speak of the production of surplus value?

The only scale at which surplus value is actually being produced is the sum total of all society, meaning at the local level of production, surplus value is not being produced only at the aggregate level, right?

And because of this fact of surplus value being produced at the aggregate level, oftentimes industries which are unproductive

are uh they're getting revenues that are distributed uh from productive industries, right, that allow them to realize profits by drawing from the productive labor of other uh industries and sections of the economy.

So there are cases, for example, where

Certain industries or certain forms of commoditization are realizing profits, just in this example, right?

But they're not actually producing any value because the the actual profit i the the value, so to speak, is merely being redistributed from some other segment uh of the economy, right?

So this proves, according to Marx, that not all forms of employment, even those that don't necessarily, according to his definition with commercial workers, uh merely recycle value in terms of you know uh the the the the the the

Production of value, that not all of them, not all of these are forms of productive labor.

Some of these forms of labor are kind of like.

Basically, leeching off of others, more or less.

Some industries are just leeching off of other industries in order to exist and survive.

So they're not actually the source of production, so to speak.

Constitute strippers.

What?

I'm giving you an example.

Strippers.

Well, yeah, that would be lumping, right?

That would be the lumping.

And the dividing line, you know, is the extent of institutionalization.

But so, yeah, that's Marx's understanding.

I'm just laying that foundation to prove, in contrast to what many people claim, that you cannot actually measure the production of value directly if someone is being paid a wage and then there's a profit being realized.

That doesn't necessarily entail that value is being produced, according to Marx.

But he explicitly includes service workers in productive labor.

No, no, he doesn't.

Yes, he does.

No, no, no, no, no, no, he doesn't.

Right here.

I'll explain.

I will explain that passage.

I know the passage.

I know the passage you're talking about, and I'll explain it to you.

So when Marx is using the example of a cook, he's not actually giving an exhaustive application of his understanding of productive labor.

Rather, what he's doing is applying political economy's definition of productive labor.

And he's using this hypothetical of, well, a personal cook that you're just employing for your own consumption is unproductive.

But let's say this cook in this, and he's using this as a hypothetical in a vacuum, meaning this whole thing about the aggregates of labor and value and commodities, he's bracketing that.

This is a pure thought experiment, okay?

And it's a vacuum.

He's saying if this cook.

Is valorizing capital, meaning if profit is being yielded from the sale of this, and he also uses the example of a singer in another example.

But if this is able to expand capital through the profits being realized and like create an entire industry out of this, he's like, then by that definition, it would be productive labor.

But here's the problem.

He also ends in the singer example.

He says, but for now, these are only infinitesimal magnitudes or parts of production.

Now, why does he actually say that?

Because it is actually impossible for those kinds of industries to valorize and expand capital in practice.

In actual practice, what we see from the service industry is not this ground zero process of employing someone and then having this kind of thing where you're out of the total balance of costs and profits, you're yielding profit from that profit.

You're using it as a ground zero way to accumulate capital.

What actually happens is that you're taking on credit, you're taking on loans, and oftentimes these service industries are forms of fictitious capital is what they're actually drawing from their stocks.

And they're using these revenues to expand, but the profits that they're making at the point of sale is not actually what's fueling the expansion of the capital.

What's fueling the expansion of the capital is coming from finance.

It's coming from investment being pumped in through credit.

Okay.

So that's the case for Starbucks and every other service industry.

So that so the examples Marx uses of a cook who's you know a productive cook or whatever that was a thought experiment that is actually like physically impossible in real life and he even alludes to that fact um so you know marxism mark didn't create the point of marx's criticism his critical method was not to completely refute and deconstruct common sense and lead us to have these absurd notions that if you pick up a pencil two inches and get paid it whatever that that's productive labor marx was trying to develop a theory that could explain rationally uh you know what actually is in conformity with what we can observe with our common sense that we have a class of people that are responsible for the production of the overwhelming material wealth of our society in physical volume okay and that that is in somehow in in this antagonistic contradiction with the form that wealth takes on in the form of the commodity form in the form of money and exchange value right he's not trying to tell us that capitalism is just the reality of capitalism is just the reality of abstract commodity form and generalized production and an exchange value because according to marx's definition of capitalism capitalism also includes the seeds of a new mode of production and that is included in capitalism this is a problem with the german value form theorists is that they don't acknowledge that fact they claim that all capitalism is is the value form it's purely this abstract transcendental horizon of social relations that are inherently capitalist so it leads to this kind of uh pseudo marxist like left comm gnosticism where they basically try to say like oh behind the artifice of actual tangible reality of real like physical reality it's just this pure you know psyop of of pure capitalist relations and that's all that essentially matters such that you can you can even raise a pencil two inches and if you're getting paid a wage and making someone's making a profit from that but that's not what i'm saying all that matters is the abstract rel social relation and nothing else see that's that's not but what i'm trying to say is that that's not marxism because the marxist understanding of capitalism either yes it is possible i'm affirming the marxist understanding of capitalism which includes the contradictions and includes the seeds of a new mode of production in it physically like it's it's it's not just an abstract transcendent by the way marx never affirms an abstract kind of kantian transcendent horizon of social relations you know some habermas german bullshit he never affirms that he his understanding of social relations again is a dialectical interplay between you know

The reality of form, the reality of abstraction, and the concrete, and the physical, and the natural, and the tangible, right?

So, Marx is not this kind of social solipsist who denies exterior in all this Western Marxist nonsense comes from a rejection of Frederick Engels' dialectics of nature, and that's why the whole that's where the whole thing came from in the first place.

And you're getting pissed on Twitter and typing because you're just affirming the German Zionist interpretation.

I mean, you live in the West, you don't live in the East.

It doesn't matter.

I'm affirming the communist perspective, the real Marxism.

My view has nothing to do with hating baristas.

I think baristas are workers.

I think most service workers are working class.

I have no issue with Starbucks baristas.

Baristas are working class.

I have no problem saying that.

But I also believe in defending the integrity of Marxism and not warping our basic Marxist theory to conform to people's feelings and sensibilities.

And I also think that in terms of strategy, it's probably smarter to prioritize organizing blue-collar workers if we have finite limited resources, which we do, over patting ourselves on the back just because we managed to organize yet another fringe kind of like graduate student.

But even you yourself are talking about how difficult it is to get to these workers.

Do you go grocery shopping?

The Drayledge truckers.

It's not difficult.

Hold on.

It's not difficult.

It's absolutely not difficult.

At any given time.

If we had.

You got to wake up at 5 a.m., which you don't sound like you like doing.

So what?

Do you go grocery shopping?

There's a Starbucks in every single grocery store.

Okay.

Why not approach the?

I mean, part of the reason.

Yeah, but I hear what you guys are saying.

The point is, the point is, the people that are educated with Marxism need to use that privilege to actually empower people like Drayage workers, even if they have to wake up at 5 a.m.

to do it.

And that might not be pleasant, but it's always been what's necessary within Marxism that people who know the theory have to go down to the workers and actually help organize and empower the workers with the theory.

Why not encourage your people, your young people, to go talk to other young people in the grocery store?

We all go grocery shopping.

Every grocery store has a Starbucks in it.

Go talk to me.

Because I'm not going to tell my people to go accost Starbucks employees.

You think truckers want to talk to e-commerce?

They don't.

They do.

Yes, they do.

Our experience confirms that they want to talk to us.

Absolutely, they want to talk to us.

I don't know why.

I don't know, but it takes a lot more than to just personally talk to random service workers you encounter in your day-to-day life to actually get to a point of organizing.

When we go do drayage organizing, we're not doing so in any casual capacity.

It's being planned.

We're printing our pamphlets.

We have our websites ready for them to get to.

We have specific classes or we teach specific ways in which to actually relate to them.

We have to learn and study their situation.

We have to do research.

We have to know what their sentiment is.

We have to get a pulse on their consciousness.

These are not things you just can do with your thumb up your ass or farting in a grocery store, walking around.

This is actually something that takes strategy and planning.

And also I don't know why you have this fetish for like barista so much.

Like I have no issue with barista.

Then you go do it, dude.

I mean, why are you yelling at us?

We have finite time, resources, and energy.

In terms of what we're doing with our organizational capacity, we're prioritizing blue-collar workers.

There's 12 million service workers.

You even admitted they're blue-collar workers.

People work at McDonald's, people who work at Starbucks, people who work at Dunkin' Donuts, people who work at all these places.

Okay, but if socialism Well, okay, there's multiple things.

The strategic sectors of the economy are the ones that can be that can't be shut down.

Okay, if you want to talk about practice and practice alone, the way we see it is that if all the service industries had to be shut down, that would be cause shocks in the economy to be pretty bad.

But it would not be at such a level to cause a literal political revolution automatically.

Whereas if the strategic blue-collar sectors of the economy went on strike, the society would literally stop functioning at the level of survival.

And that's more important to us.

It's more important to us that the people who are actually...

Like responsible for the real physical existence of our society, not the luxuries, not the laboobu produ producers, not the Dubai chocolate chocolate.

We just don't think the Dubai chocolatiers are the vanguard of the proletariat.

That's all.

Well, obviously.

But I mean.

I think society can survive without the Dubai chocolate and without the matcha lattes or whatever.

But it can't survive if the truck drivers stop delivering food to grocery stores and they stop delivering goods.

I mean, society will just stop functioning.

It's a very critical difference.

Sure.

But why why exclude we're not excluding everyone you could make the argument if we had if we had to pull if you shut down all the fast food restaurants it's gonna cause just as big of a problem no it won't it'll cause a lot of weight loss it won't cause just as much of a problem not uncourse they can't afford groceries i promise you people will still survive because they'll have canned beans okay th they won't die they won't be on the street dead because there's no fucking mcdonald's big max

Right, but it's absurd that you would exclude this other group.

I'm not excluding anyone, but I'm not excluding anyone.

Like, where did I say I'm excluding anyone?

I have no issue with baristas.

I just, you know, one of my problems with this German Zionist Marxist view is that it attempts to institutionalize degrading professions that don't physically need to exist from the socialist perspective of use value.

But they're claiming that, no, we need to institutionalize the act of making coffee and make that a permanent like where look in socialism.

There's still going to be people in the mines.

There's still going to be people in the factories.

There's still going to be people driving trucks.

That's still going to be necessary.

But.

It's not going to be necessary that people are going to be cleaning.

It won't be necessary for people to massage your feet in order to be fed.

They're going to have self-driving trucks that are going to, I mean, yeah, you can check back with me and when that never happens.

But when that happens, I'll give you that point.

I don't think it's going to happen.

I don't think the self-driving trucks are going to happen.

And by the way, the current truck drivers have the ability to stop that, literally.

Even if it was technically possible, which it's not, but if it was, let's assume it was, they have the leverage to literally stop that from happening.

Yeah, they do.

They could just go on strike and stop it from happening.

And so the only way, even if it was possible to have self-driving trucks and this nonsense idea of automating blue-collar work, first, the only way it could be affected is a socialist society that ensures and makes sure people can make a dignified living still.

Uh and and transition them properly, uh which we can't, so yeah, it's not gonna happen.

I don't think anyone should have to ever be a barista.

But I do think some people, including myself in a socialist society, should have to spend maybe one hour a day working in a mine or doing some physically demanding labor.

That's my view.

It's not intrinsically degrading that people or these industries have high organic composition of capital.

It's less, I mean, that's the thing that I don't think you're seeing here is that those industries are becoming more and more automated.

There's less and less workers.

The proportion of a traditional, like the proportion of the actual Marxist notion of a proletariat relative to our society hasn't really changed.

It's about like 20%, 20%, maybe 30%.

And it's never been in the majority.

Maybe I don't even think in industrial England it was.

I think even industrial England had a large farmer population.

They were the base of the Tories for a long time.

It's never really been the case that the proletariat was for a long time industrial proletariat was in the majority.

That's just a fact, you know?

Yeah, I don't, I don't disagree with the Dread trucker drive.

I think that's I applaud that.

I think that's good what you guys are doing.

I never said that that's bad.

Look, dude, I feel bad for you because it's like, again, you were talking a lot of crazy.

You're talking a lot of crazy shit.

And now you're like, you're shooting yourself in the foot.

You just realize that you don't actually hate us.

You don't actually have this big issue with me.

You're actually chill with us.

So why did you talk to your buddy on there?

And he starts talking shit.

And I'm going to go to the bathroom.

Hey, buddy, let me tell you something.

All right.

This is what I'm going to tell you.

I don't care who you were talking to.

I tell you something.

All right.

I'm not.

You may have this idea that I'm like a purely like a an intangible celebrity or some shit.

I'm really not even a celebrity.

I'm a human being.

You know what that means?

A human being?

Like a coffee bean?

I'm a human being.

You know what that means?

A human being?

It means I'm literally just some dude.

I'm literally just some dude.

But what that means is I'm straight up just some dude.

I'm angry at you guys.

I don't care.

I don't care, bro.

I don't care, bro.

Don't let the bro.

Stop being so terminally online in the sense that you dehumanize me.

You can't just straight up.

Bro, bro, bro.

You can't.

Look, look, I could be, bro, I could be a Buddhist who has this like crazy wisdom and doesn't.

Everybody I've talked shit about has done what you did.

I've never disrespected anyone who didn't disrespect me first.

And again, I'm a human being.

You know what that means, human being?

You know what that means?

That means although you're not getting to me and it's not getting under my skin necessarily, I'm still going to stand on business and hold you to account if you talk shit about me.

Bro, if you say that you're going to, bro, if you say you're going to crush my nuts, if you say you're going to crush my nuts, I'm going to hold you to account, bro.

Because guess what?

Because guess what?

I ain't no bitch, bro.

I ain't no bitch, bro.

I'm going to hold you to account for that shit just for honor's sake.

You understand?

You can't just be talking shit saying you're going to crush my nuts and expect me to just let that shit slide.

Bro, I'm not an elder grandmaster.

I'm not a Buddhist monk on top of the mountain who's just going to be like, I see the wisdom.

I'm okay with it.

Like, people respect that, I guess, but I'm going to stand on business to defend my dignity because I'm a human being.

You know what a being is?

It's like a coffee being like at Starbucks, but the human version.

I'm not messaging you saying anything.

I'm telling you.

But that's what I'm reading.

But that's what I'm reading.

I'm reading that bullshit you're saying.

This dude said he's going to crush my nuts.

Bro, I'm not going to roll out the red carpet for you and treat you good if I read that you're saying you're going to crush my nuts.

You're going to be respectful.

Bro, I have fun.

I have fun.

Guess what?

I have fun roasting people and making fun of people.

And if you give me an excuse to do that, I'm going to...

That's my interest.

I'm going to do that.

Bro, why should I hold back?

Why should I hold back?

Why should I hold back?

I didn't hold back.

Why should I hold back?

Why should I hold back from roasting you?

You're a bean, bro.

I'm roasting you like a coffee bean, bro.

Why should I hold back if you're going to talk that shit in the first place?

You gave me a pretext to roast you and make fun of you.

Okay.

If you don't want me to fucking do that, then be respectful.

I mean, you're not doing a very good job.

I don't feel any less than before.

I see things that you guys are doing that are.

You're a frog.

Because this entire time, you're like a frog being boiled.

You don't feel it.

You're like a frog.

Because the entire time, you're like a frog that's being boiled and doesn't feel it.

But instead of a frog, it's a bean.

And instead of being boiled, you're being roasted.

Because you're literally my cup of coffee now, bitch, espresso by Sabrina Carpenter.

You're a fucking soy latte.

Bro, I turned you into a fucking soy latte and I emptied you into the river so all the fucking bitch ass people will drink it up and grow gyno.

You're literally a laboo-boo, bro.

You're a laboo boo.

You're a laboo-boo, bro.

I work with your guys.

Yeah, you typing, you typing.

You typing, bro, you typing into that construction project.

I brought the fucking tools because you don't have any men or soldiers.

You got a bunch of little boys.

You don't know what you're talking about.

Listen, bro.

Listen.

You.

Came out typing like you're Joe Lobby.

You want to be daddy?

You got to act like daddy and you act like I don't want to be part of your weird shit, bro.

What are you talking about?

The are you talking about, bro?

You guys worship Stalin and you like, and he's like fatherly.

He doesn't act like you act.

He lets everybody else talk.

I think he's like, I'm literally a 29-year-old man.

I don't know what you fucking want from me, bro.

Like you have this crazy expectation that I'm going to be your dad.

I don't want to be your dad.

All right.

No, I'm talking about your guys that are like my guys.

Okay, I'm going to tell my daddy.

Well, I don't know.

All Buffalo did was straight up after he was.

You didn't even know who that was.

Bro, I know who he is.

You roped me into some bullshit that had nothing to do with it.

No, no, no.

They roped me into me.

No, you didn't.

He wanted who you were.

Bro, you talked shit.

I got a life, okay?

Bro, you started talking shit about me, and all he did was tell you to tell me yourself.

That's it.

And nobody talks shit about you, right?

Because you're just some guy.

No, you talk shit about me.

I'm just doing in my VC.

Talk shit about me doing my VC.

I'm here.

We've been talking about it.

You're here, but you know, like, bro, you just shit your pants.

This was a great conversation.

It is, because you shit your pants the entire time.

You've been farting and shitting the entire time.

No, you've been talking the whole time, and you don't let me talk.

Bro, you farted, but you don't realize when I talk over you, nobody wants to hear that.

You farted and you don't realize this is your show.

You farted, and I'm a guest.

You farted and you don't realize you actually created productive labor because you created a physical commodity in your pants.

It was a shard.

You sharded in your fucking pants.

You don't even realize it.

You think that it was just a bank teller thing?

No, it wasn't.

It was a coffee bean, bro.

Go clean your shit.

Go wipe your shit, bro.

You just shit your pants in front of the world.

That's all you did.

This entire stream.

It was productive labor.

It was a tangible physical commodity.

And you thought it was intangible and it wasn't.

Profits and coffee shops do represent.

No, they don't.

Starbucks.

You think Starbucks expanded its capital?

Do you think Starbucks expanded its capital?

Absolutely external capital inflows.

Absolutely external capital inflows and credit.

You misunderstand it.

Starbucks's growth was fueled by external credit.

Here's the problem.

Like, when I'm talking to your guys, they don't, they just fuck each other.

Like, I read what your guys say, I listen to what you say, and I respond to it.

All right, so you don't want to talk about the external capital inflows?

No, we I was just talking about that.

Yeah, Starbucks' expansion is not fueled by the profits made on the ground floor.

That's just an indication for investors to pump more money into it because it's popular and it's it's in demand.

It shows demand, yes.

That's why a lot of companies that are in demand operate even at a profit loss, but they're still getting injections of credit.

Yes.

Starbucks' expansion is not actually fueled.

No, the profits Starbucks makes at the at the shop floor.

Are not enough capital in terms to initiate an accumulation process to expand.

It's not enough.

Let me ask you something.

Is Marx is he is he talking about is he studying socialism or is he studying capitalism?

What are we studying?

He's absolutely studying both.

He's studying the breakdown of a capitalist system and the growth of a socialist mode of production from within it.

He literally uses the example that capitalism is like a pregnant womb, okay, and socialism is being born inside of it.

Mm-hmm.

That's the example he uses.

But money invested isn't itself productive.

It's a claim on future surplus value.

If the coffee shop fails, the surplus value in question is never actually realized.

It's a claim on future value, but we are in 40 trillion in debt in the USA alone.

And how much is the derivatives marketed worldwide?

It's like what?

50 quadrillion, quintillion, jabillion fucking dollars.

So yeah, it's not actually ever going to be paid off and realized.

So something a little funky is going on, which cannot be explained, frankly, in a classical Marxist framework in the first place.

Which has always been my point, by the way.

I was never trying to affirm.

I think we're in a revolutionary situation here, though.

Do you?

I think you have more I think you have time.

I I I think that

I don't know what to tell you, dude.

The capitalist mode of production, I don't know if I would say that's the dominant, really, that's the dominant mode of production anymore.

I think it's definitely the dominant superstructure and it's the dominant institution.

But is it the dominant mode of production still?

Probably not.

Actually, it's not.

Like, I could straight up die on the hill that it's not.

And you can bring any like Marxist you want to come and debate me on this topic, and I will wipe the fucking floor with them.

But they don't count them.

They don't.

They ignore you.

Right.

I know.

I know they do.

Yeah, because they're scared.

Crowd.

Because I would make a fool of them in front of and I would ruin their prestige and their entire bullshit.

I saw you with Dugan and you look the little stage guy there.

I mean, I know he's your hero and everything, but.

I just stayed shy because I wasn't having an extremely fluent conversation with someone who speaks English as a second language.

You don't know what you're talking about.

Anyway, look, the problem here is that the reason these Western Marxist academics won't debate me is because they're all retards and I'd expose them for the frauds they are.

And all their stupid degrees, all their stupid degrees and all this prestige that they accumulate as a form of capital, it'd all be exposed as a fart and nothing else.

They'd be exposed for the frauds they are.

That's why they don't ever, ever even think about debating me.

Why won't Jimmy Dore have you on his show?

He has had me on.

Has he?

I haven't seen that.

Okay, but what's what kind of argument?

Like, what are you trying to say?

I mean, I mean, he has all kinds of crazy people on his show.

Why?

I don't even know what are you even getting at here?

Like, it was, I don't even understand what you're trying to say.

I'm just saying, like, you, you seem, you, you seem ignored to me.

Like, based on what I'm saying.

Okay, because I'm not in your generation, first of all.

I don't know the same degree.

I don't know what year were you?

What year?

90s?

Yeah.

Yeah.

So 89.

Okay, you're 89.

You're significantly older.

You're almost a decade older than me.

Here's the thing: you're playing the age game on people.

Like, like, you guys.

No, I'm just trying to say that, like, bro, the shit you fuck with is not necessarily the same shit I fuck with.

There are tons of kids who are following me, who are talking to me, who are messaging me, who are like, I was in that ACP.

It's like a frat.

It's like a.

I felt like I couldn't.

I couldn't.

Express my uh express a dissenting opinion.

Can you name who said that?

I'm not gonna name them.

I mean, I don't know.

And they're all like part of the same retarded cult led by Professor Shaw.

I mean, don't you think this is Shaw?

We all agree that the Democrats, the Republicans are all, we don't care about you guys.

Just fuck off and leave us alone.

That's literally it.

But you can't even get on board with, you know, there's guys who are winning in New York.

There's a guy who's winning in Minnesota.

Come on, Mamdoni.

I'm going to fix all your problems because I'm smiling.

I'm a good guy.

You think I buy into that shit?

I mean, I'm waiting for this breakdown that you think is going to be.

I'm waiting for a fucking thing.

And you think you guys are going to be able to.

You know what I'm doing?

You ever heard the song Plain Jane?

No.

If you want to know what I'm doing, we ride with the mob.

Alhamdulillah.

That's what we're doing.

We're not waiting for shit.

Yeah.

Did the Bolsheviks run candidates in election?

Are you listening to the stream?

I'm not waiting for shit, bro.

We mobbing out here.

We mobbing out here.

You understand?

Out here, you know, we're getting in with the the the the convoys, the trucks.

We got horses and shit.

We're driving across the country, all right?

We're mobbing it up everywhere we go.

What the fuck am I waiting for, bro?

I'm not waiting for a thing.

You understand?

We are the horde.

We're here.

I'm telling you, you got you're not gonna get any military guys.

You gotta show some respect.

Maybe you got a couple in there.

You don't, you don't get, you don't get to, you don't get to disrespect me.

You don't get to disrespect me and not get a response.

I don't know what to tell you.

I had to say, don't get fucking out.

You're nailing.

Don't do that.

Don't.

It's like, you know, they're young.

They act like tough guys.

They didn't even have a screwdriver between the six of them.

Bro, I don't know where you came from.

You guys can get ahead of yourself.

Okay.

We literally just did our party census and we are.

I think fifty percent blue collar.

Okay, well

I'm telling you that there are some chapters that are students looking to do that.

A fucking set of tools, bro.

I mean, I and it was, you know what?

What chapter?

You literally left the party like Colorado, in the mountains.

Okay, so in the mountains.

So I live in the mountains.

So after two months, I came down, I brought my tools.

We built a homeless lady's ramp, which was not a homeless lady.

So I'll tell you what this guy's talking about.

I'll tell you why Spartacus left the party after two months being in it after July.

So he was in Colorado with like two other guys, and they were going to do something.

And of the three people that were there, the two of them didn't bring their tools and only he did.

So he claims our entire party doesn't know anything and is bullshit.

No.

Because the other thing is that was just one red flag.

Yeah, that was that.

But that's the only example you have.

The other red flag is that there's 12 million workers that are service workers.

That you're calling on production.

The other red flag is there's 12 million workers.

Wow.

And then another red flag is, oh, you got to pay $15 a month for what?

I don't see my money going to something that I want to pay $50.

I might pay five.

Don't.

I'm not going to haggle with you, bro.

This isn't a fucking...

This isn't a fucking Bangladeshi fruit stand.

This is not a Bangladeshi fruit.

Did someone make an AI image of this guy trying to haggle tools at a fucking Bangladeshi fruit stand or some shit?

Like, what are you talking about?

Trying to haggle the price.

I might pay five.

Maybe seven.

Let's sell six and a half.

I mean, you're not competitive.

Maybe six.

Like, bro, what are you talking about?

You guys are over.

Do you smoke beer?

Do you drink beer?

I guarantee you, you're going to drop the price.

Do you drink beer?

You're going to drop that price.

Do you drink beer?

Yeah, every once in a while, sure.

How much beer do you drink in a month monetarily?

I I don't really drink that often.

I'm so much social.

No fuck no.

So you just live in the woods?

You don't spend any money at all?

Oh, I don't mind the woods.

I live

In a mountain town, okay.

15.

If you truly came to us and said, I cannot afford 15 a month, we would obviously already do that.

Like, if you straight up cannot afford it because of your situation and you can show that to us.

It's not that I can't afford it.

It's that I don't think other people would be willing to pay that.

They're going to see that and they're going to be like, you know, the way I see it is if you're a recruit and you're joining and you can't spend $15 a month, you're probably not that dedicated to the party to the point where you're willing to.

Because in terms of what our cadre have spent, in terms of their labor, resources, and like energy, it's a lot more than $15 a month.

Okay.

They just don't send direct money.

You know, they don't send their money, but like all the chapter activity, it's self-funded.

It's all coming out of their own pocket and they're all doing that shit.

Their own energy, their own labor.

And it's like, it's a lot more.

I got nothing bad to say about your guys either.

All the guys that I'm talking about.

So it's like, so it's like, if you're if you're a recruit, if you're a recruit and you're starting out and you're like, no, I won't, I won't.

I refuse to.

It's not that you can't.

It's that you refuse to.

It's like, well, you're probably not even that dedicated to this shit in the first place.

But because it's like, what, what is motivating me?

There's these demotivating factors.

I look at these guys.

One of your leaders in Colorado talking to you.

And then I show up and he's got no tools.

All right.

So I'm just looking there and I'm like, this is a guy who thinks he's better than people.

But in reality, he ain't much better than them.

So, you know.

All right, bro.

To me, it's a little bit of you're making yourselves out to be something more than you are.

And for me, it was.

If you're such a great judge and all this stuff, then why don't you mobilize all the people in your mountain town and you form something bigger than whatever's going on in Colorado?

I'm sure you can do it.

We just have what we have.

We have what we have.

You don't like the people in Colorado?

You recruit more people that you like.

It's like we have what we have.

All we have is what we have.

They just do what you say.

I'm also being told you never even showed up.

I'm not there.

I work two, three hours away.

So you never showed up.

You claimed he showed up and he didn't have tools.

Bro, you didn't even show up to the Colorado event.

You didn't even show up to that shit, bro.

What the hell are you talking about?

What the hell?

See, now I mean, that's the thing.

When I when I was done, they made up all kinds of shit.

Bro, you didn't even show me that.

I had all these issues.

You didn't even show up, though.

You're like.

You're such a great judge of the party.

You need to show up.

They first of all, there was multiples and they canceled one of them.

Bro, you weren't there.

That's all that matters, bro.

You weren't there.

I didn't even show up.

Hey, listen, I don't know what to tell you, dude.

You just're like best friends with Danny Shaw.

That's where all this comes from.

He's like your dad.

He's your mentor.

I mean, you guys don't have tools.

Bro, you don't have tools.

Your literal master is a heroin addict, bro.

I don't know what to tell you.

I'm just telling you, no no soldiers are gonna wanna join.

But they already have the Michigan chapter has like two soldiers in it already that I can c I can name.

I'm not gonna name on stream, but I met both of them.

Just the ones that I met.

They're in the Detroit area.

We already got veterans and soldiers.

There's 70,000 special forces out there.

I think you can grow a party.

I think you can grow a party to 70,000.

What I'm telling you is that you've got a paywall.

You've, I mean, now it sounds like you've got wired.

I want you to test it.

None of those guys like you had tools.

Bro, go test it in practice.

Whatever kind of party you think is going to work, go fucking try it yourself.

All right.

You see if it works.

Go see if it works.

We we doing what we can.

Go do go do it and try it yourself.

See what you can do.

Good luck.

It's like you're sitting and you're talking shit.

You don't do nothing yourself.

It's like such bullshit.

It's not true.

It's like you have no experience.

You have no experience.

You have no knowledge or experience of what it actually fucking takes or what is possible when it comes to building a party.

And if you want to contradict me, by all means, go fucking try.

It's all hype.

Go try.

Then you go create.

Okay, then vectorism.

All right.

It's broken to make your own shit, man.

Literally, go try to make your own shit.

Go try to make your own shit.

Go try to make your own shit, bro.

I don't know what to tell you.

Go try to make your own shit.

See how easy it is.

No, I'm telling you you're making it harder on yourselves.

Alright, but we're optimistic and we're hopeful for the future and we're vibing it out and everything is chill on our end.

So thank you for your concern, but we're having a great time.

We're riding horses and shit.

We're having a great time.

We're running it up.

It's never been better.

You gotta take criticisms.

But but we ain't it's like we're chill, bro.

We we got our shit together.

We know what we're doing.

I I've heard plenty of people come on and and and people who are in your party who are

Wondering why you're gallivanting all over the place and the guy wants a food truck because they want to set up a oh god the are you the food truck guy who's the food truck no no the detroit food truck i heard about the detroit the detroit cadre told me there's a food truck guy chris okay that's that guy yeah the food that was him yeah the guy who came that was the guy who came to my space yeah the guy who wanted to set up a food truck Then yeah, you really dismissed him.

You didn't hear him out.

No, he's in your party.

And you bitched him out.

No, he's not.

First of all, bro, bro, he had the most stupid idea in the world.

A food truck?

Bro, I'm not gonna.

I'm not, I'm not buying a food truck.

You think I can afford a food truck, bro?

I'm not, I'm not buying a food truck.

He's like, oh, what I said.

He said was instead of traveling to Russia.

You know, you you should just buy a food truck.

That's what he said.

Who's gonna work in the food truck?

By the way, he sounded like he had a great idea.

So he was going to work full-time in that truck?

Who's going to pay him?

It sounded like it was going to be one of your party enterprises.

And I mean, you shit all over it.

So, I mean, because it was fun, I mean, I get it.

I get it.

It was retarded.

Service workers aren't productive to ACP.

I get it.

But, but, but picking up trash.

All right, I gave you, I got an idea.

Why don't you start an enterprise of foot massages?

All right, I gotta go to bed.

I'll be back on Thursday.

This is entertaining.

I gotta go to bed.

I gotta go.

You should do the foot massage enterprise.

It's a service, right?

Service is the way to go.

Hey?

All right.

All right.

Yeah, the foot massages.

Like, just like lifting up a pencil.

All right, yeah.

I mean, look, guys, it is what it is.

Like, shit.

Like, shit.

Um

Uh what was I gonna say?

Bob was I gonna say.

Yeah these people they never have an argument and w they type it out and it sounds like especially what a lot of people like to do they quote Marx on theories of surplus value, assuming that's Marx's own view.

Like they'll quote a passage from Marx where he's like uh there's a dist people don't make a distinction between productive labor from the perspective of the capitalist and productive labor in general, right?

And they think Marx is affirming the view of the capitalist perspective.

When Marx thinks the capitalist perspective is obviously one-sided and he thinks that a comprehensive understanding of productive labor has to include a acknowledgement or comprehension or understanding of the fact

That the capitalist mode of production

Is inherently contradictory and is giving rise to a new mode of production, which capitalists can't uh comprehend.

So, from their perspective, anything that's yielding them a profit is productive.

But is that true in general?

No.

Is that true, like in material fact, that that's actually productive labor?

No, because the real understanding or definition of productive labor has to include how the valorization process of capital accumulation.

uh is inherently contradictory, right?

It's like so simple.

It's like straight up simple.

And like I get autistic about this argument, not because I have a problem with service workers, but because I think it's important that people correctly understand what Marx was trying to say so that this definition doesn't get abused and misused in the ways that BreadTube has abused and misused it, right?

BreadTube was trying to say that like anything that gets employed and you don't control the workplace, it means it's that's what Marx was describing as exploitation.

It was a total distortion of Marxism.

And it's petty bourgeois nonsense, you know.

And I, yeah, I'm autistic about Marxism in a way.

That doesn't mean practically I have an issue with.

Like, go ahead and go fucking organize the Starbucks baristas if you want.

Like, I don't give a fuck.

I have no issue with it.

Um

But I personally think that the strategy we're employing is more important and that we're acting accordingly.

We're not it's not like we're blocking people from going to baristas or whatever.

Like, go do it and see if it works.

Maybe you'll prove us wrong.

You think I you think I would be upset if I was proven wrong?

Like think about this.

Like you think I would be upset if they actually like created a workers movement with like baristas at the Vanguard and it actually worked and it was effective and it was actually like challenging the system and shit.

I'd be so happy that I was wrong and that you know it would be a revolutionary strategy that works.

And I would I would humbly say that, you know, that this is the shit that worked and I'm wrong.

But, you know, look, decades and decades, these people have fucking done nothing.

And I'm not going to just be about here to surrender to them just because they're being loud and fucking calling us names and shit.

Thank you, Jennifer.

And yeah, we got baristas in ACP, so you know, that might come as a surprise to people.

We got baristas in ACP.

A lot of people think that we have this thing where we're like we don't like people that have blue hair or septum piercings or some shit.

And the reality is we don't give a fuck.

Like, I

And it's especially true, like

Women that have septum piercings and

Like, uh hair dye and shit.

Like, yo, some of them be fine as hell, straight up.

I don't have an issue with them at all.

Like when did anyone say I got an issue with women like that?

Osos, what's going on?

I've never said I have an issue with women who present themselves that way.

And I've had a lot of friends, and I've been friends with a lot of women who were like that in my life.

And, you know, I'm, you know, I'm just saying it's like I got no issue with them.

But they try to make it seem like we hate them, we hate goth women and all this shit.

It's like, I don't, what are you talking about?

I don't know where that comes from.

Uh, all I've ever tried to-I don't believe women should have to be like wearing fucking milkmaid dresses and shit.

I've never said that.

When have I ever said that?

Um

That's like saying that's like saying dudes can't be wearing, you know, they can't be wearing what I'm wearing here.

It's like saying I can't wear a beater or some shit.

You must be ha you had me confused for some other shit that has nothing to do with me.

You had me confused with like Caleb Maupin or some shit.

Like, that's not me.

All right, I've never been like that in my life.

Actually, like, observe my entire streaming career, observe all the people I've been streamed with my whole career and shit.

I've that's never been me.

All right, I've never been the one who's like uptight about like that.

I don't give a fuck.

Um

You know, y yeah.

They think that yeah, they think they they they have it c uh mixed up because we were against the like uptight woke scolds that were like making extremely

If you're white and you're just like going to a party meeting and people are just like oh, you're enjoying yourself?

Well you white, you're fucking garbage, you piece of shit.

Like, you're straight up driving people away from our cause.

You're straight up making super uncomfortable, awkward environments no one wants to fucking be in 'cause they're just not enjoyable and they're just not shit anyone wants to fuck with.

And you're just like

Making it awkward and like super painful to be in.

Like, yeah, someone cracks a joke and then someone gets fucking mad.

It's like, what is worse than that?

Cracking a joke and then getting fucking mad at it.

Like, I promise you, there would be no culture war in the USA if leftists just stopped fucking policing jokes.

Just let people fucking laugh at whatever they want to, and nobody will have a fucking issue with your fucking principles.

Straight up.

Nobody even has an issue.

Nobody has ever had an issue with like left progressive politics in the USA.

The line that nobody could forgive was how they fucking started making it impossible to laugh and ruining fucking jokes.

That was the issue for everyone I know and I've ever seen.

Um

Also, the the vibe shift has changed, guys.

Like, the goth girls are kinda based and the libtard women are usually the peop like they're usually more like clean cut now.

They're like uh Barry Weiss.

They wear like glasses and they wear pantsuits.

It's the pant suit like Barry Weiss.

type of females that are like the liberals.

It's not like the Goths who have like blue hair and shit.

They're kind of like joining us now.

Tho those people are like anti-Zionist and they like are getting canceled.

Even that retarded woman on TikTok that we've that's I can't fucking stand her, but like, um, she was like defending North Korea, you know, she's like a goth and has blue hair and shit.

That was her.

She was defending North Korea.

All the Liptards were like canceling her over it.

Um, she's like still a liptard because she's fucking crazy and she attacks us because she wants to get the heat off of her.

But what I'm trying to say is that this is a vibe shift that's happened, it's a political realignment.

Um, all that CPI shit has nothing to do with us.

Fucking whoever has that baggage, leave it behind.

We're not trying to carry that into the future.

Uh, straight up.

Shit libs are like Barry Weiss.

They're like, who's that?

I don't even know that.

I don't even know how to name these people.

But uh

Yeah.

Ursula van der Leyen.

Exactly.

Exactly.

Exactly.

Bridget Macron, exactly.

That that type of shit is like

On a different wavelength.

We accept people from all sorts of subcultures, including people that are traditional.

They're also welcome.

Of course they are.

We love all types of people.

Shit.

There's traditional women in the party.

There's people that are not.

I mean, y would everyone's welcome.

You just have to, like, be able to fucking

Be chill, honestly.

Be dedicated, be chill.

I have discipline, you know, that's all we ask.

We accept metal heads, yes we do.

But when I'm the thing is, when I'm there

Y'all are not getting the JBL speaker.

Like, it's simple.

You can listen to whatever you want.

When I come and visit your chapter, you're not playing that bullshit.

You don't get the you don't get the Bluetooth.

That's it.

That's the only fucking persecution.

That we institute

Um

If y'all play that stupid crush punk and all that stupid shit, I don't want to hear it.

You know?

Y'all are not making a the statement you want to make.

Some of y'all are trying to make statements.

Let me get the ox.

I'm gonna make a statement.

Like, mm.

You're not gonna hold me captive to that.

I don't wanna hear it.

Mm-hmm.

Uh ban the Sonic song.

The son Sonic song go hard, but I wouldn't play that at the a social setting.

They call me Sonic, but I am dancing around that's more like a car song.

That's the song I would play in the car.

They call me with like if the whole gang is in a car, I'd be playing that song.

They call me Sonic, 'cause I am dancing around, I keep on jumping around.

Blue has a that's not a song I've I've play when I'm trying to chill and kick it back.

Do you like country music?

You know, the whole point of music is supposed to be ambient.

You're not supposed to have to think about it.

Exactly Orvo's got it right.

Like, I don't want to think about this shit.

I don't want to pay it no mind.

It should be ambient.

All right, can I be on some real shit?

One of the things we did in California is we went to a karaoke place and I sang.

I sang.

I sang the uh thank you, USA, you are my and then I made my own version, but it was thank you, Enver Hoja, you are my best friend.

Khrushchev is a fat.

Like, I actually added my own lyrics, it was crazy.

That shit went so hard.

Um, and we I also did Mongolian throat singing.

And um

Yeah.

But then it got boring because, like, people actually started to sing for like the full three minutes of every song.

So you'd just be sitting there and people were like, Just call me Angel.

And you're just sitting there and it's like, fuck, when is this gonna end?

I get it now.

Like, the joke is over.

Um, yeah.

Anyway.

Anyway y'all, I think I'll see you tomorrow.

But if not tomorrow then Wednesday.

I hate the 500 mile song.

You guys know I hate that song.

Anyway, guys, I'll see y'all.

This was a long stream.

It was wow, 303 hours.

Good shit.

Which shit, honestly, which shit?

I wish you could sing on my dive bar.

Yo, Shogunner, what state are you in?

What state are you in?

North Dakota, fuck, yeah, I don't know about that.

I don't know about that.

North Dakota is quite a ways away.

One day I'm I'm gonna be doing a tour of every chapter.

It's just we gotta make it efficient.

Um

You know, the one I wanna visit next is Florida.

I wanna go to Florida next.

Florida is the one I have next on my sights.

Uh it's a big it's a great chapter.

I would like to visit Florida as soon as I can.

But I'll

Yeah.

Appreciate that, Harold.

Appreciate that.

Harold's domain, yeah.

Of course.

Um

Definitely, definitely within the next two months I'll visit Florida, for sure.

But I'll give you guys proper notice, at least a month's notice.

I'll give you guys.

And yeah.

We'll like strategize to make it the most efficient and shit.

And then like I also want to strategize to also stream it as well, to like stream a lot of it.

Because I didn't strategize enough to stream California and Texas, unfortunately.

And I should have, but I just didn't have time.

Anyway, y'all, I will see you um I'll see you tomorrow or if if not tomorrow, uh, Wednesday.

But I'll see y'all.

Good stream, good shit.

I hope you like the debate.

Bye-bye.