DEBATE BLOODSPORTS (MASSIVE BEEF!)

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I'm Guess who's back everybody? What is going on?

We are back.

We are back home.

Midwest with the 10.

What's going on?

ACP showgunner with the 10.

What's up?

Lenin Dubai with the 1.

What's going on?

Jiska. With the 1. What's going on? Jiska.

With the one. What the fuck is going on? Everybody.

We're back.

We're back. And we got some

debates apparently.

I got so

much shit to share with y'all.

It's crazy.

It's crazy.

It's crazy.

What the fuck is up, everybody?

We are back.

We are so back in so many different ways not just back home but we're back to our roots and to our

spirit you know i found this ancient artifact and it's like shit we're back in every kind of way and this this one day

this is going to go for millions and millions and millions of dollars you know it's made of

rare earth metals anyway i'll give you the story on

that another time.

But I have a lot to talk about.

I have a lot to California,

Texas.

Really, if y'all

missed out on that, for real.

Y'all missed out on the Texas shit. all missed out on the texas shit i'm not going to lie that was

even more fun than the convention for real like that was so fun okay so like look why did i stream today

usually i like keep to my schedule like Monday and shit.

Well, first of all, I

could not wait to stream. I couldn't wait to

get back home and stream as soon as I could

because there are two little bitch-ass

pussies

on social media

conveniently when I was

gone and I wasn't home

saying, oh, Haas is dodging me.

Haas don't want to debate me.

Haas not debate. Where's

Haas? Haas not debate. Here I am,

bitch. Here I am, bitch.

Grant, what's up?

So these people are such losers.

I don't even remember their name.

But if y'all can remember who they were,

tell them to get in VC,

or I'll set up the space.

However, we got to do it, and we'll fucking do it right now bitch let's see who's

going to stand on business and who's talking shit and by the way anybody who talks shit

from their computer about me acting tough on some tough tough guy shit uh i spit your, I will spit in your face in real life and bitch slap you in a video game.

If you put me in a self-defense situation, you little bitch, don't fucking talk shit on the internet.

Because not a single one of y'all who talk shit have ever to this day brought that energy in real life as a matter of fact you quaking nervous pussies have never ever deigned to look me in the eye when y'all see me in real life.

And I'm notorious.

I'm notorious. I'm here.

I've never been confronted in real life.

I went to UCLA.

I was waiting.

What happened? I was waiting. Where are they? I don't know. Nobody knows.

But they talk because I amasculate them. Like straight up. They just like see me and they feel like the little bitches that they are.

So they have to talk a big game about how, oh, I'm going to do this to Haas.

I'm going to do that.

You ain't going to do shit, bitch.

And it's as simple as that.

It's as simple as that.

And I've never changed, by the way, I've never changed.

I haven't changed.

I've just shown you for one year how disciplined I can be.

I can be disciplined.

I can be fucking boring.

I can be formalistic.

I can wear a suit and be fucking boring.

But do I enjoy it? Absolutely not. And that's one of the

themes of today's stream is enjoyment versus sacrifice. And I want

to talk about that. Lebanese, let me talk about, let me talk about it. Thank you

so much, bro.

And shout out Detroit chapter.

We're going to be running it up with a Detroit chapter soon.

All right?

Fall season's coming up.

I want to talk about that.

If you're doing some shit that you don't enjoy,

you're punishing yourself.

And Lord knows,

you know, I'm not going to name names.

Fuck it, I will name.

Because

I'm not, it ain't no drama, but it's like, if you're not enjoying what you're doing, it's a punishment.

And if it's a punishment, you're going to find a way to enjoy that too, right?

And there's a certain somebody who said he ain't Jackson Hinkle, and he found a way to enjoy that shit

he found a way to enjoy

enjoying getting punished right

so it's like

if you're not enjoying it it's a punishment

straight up

and

we have to enjoy what we do we have to enjoy this we have to enjoy what we do.

We have to enjoy this.

We have to roll with this shit.

We have to live this life because we want to live this life.

Not because we feel obligated to do it because we're scared.

We're going to be spanked otherwise.

Because Lord knows... obligated to do it because we're scared we're going to be spanked otherwise because lord knows somebody y'all so the human mind will find ways to enjoy i'm just saying i'm just saying

am i wrong am I wrong?

Am I wrong?

Am I wrong?

Okay?

And I notice this, the only way we're going to be able to work hard, you know, as a party. And let me talk about the party. I can talk

about the party. The only way as a party we're going to work hard is if we also enjoy a lot of what we do.

And that way, when we do have to push ourselves to the limit

when it comes to the work

we'll do it and it's not going to feel like

you know so miserable

you know and it's like look

during an intense civil war and revolutionary period that's when life is going to be extremely harsh.

And it's going to be all suffering.

And it's going to be carrying the cross up the hill.

Like, we absolutely need to be ready for that shit, right?

But that doesn't mean we have to

punish ourselves

in the interim and live like ascetics.

Like if you read about revolutionaries in history,

you know, Lenin was not an ascetic.

I mean, he was, it was written as such. He wasn't an ascetic. He did enjoy himself. He did, you know, he was a fan of sports. He was doing that shit. He had hobbies. Um, and, and Stalin was the way he was because he took power and then he didn't have time for nothing except what he was doing right but he was still watching Western films and shit and look look at Che Guevarergovar was chilling smoking cigars. He had watches and shit.

He was chilling, bro.

I'm telling you, human beings by nature enjoy 95% of whatever they happen to be doing.

It's just a fact.

95% of what human beings do, they happen to make a habit of and make a routine of to the point where they enjoy it, right?

So if we're on this mentality that we're not going to enjoy party activity and work and this culture and this community that we have, like, and I saying this because, like, I went to California,

and I had a great time with my people in California.

Like, this is like a tribe.

This is like a completely new ethnicity to me.

Like, I'm not Arab.

I'm ACP.

Istani, bro.

This is like, we are...

I was chilling with everybody, you know,

yo, shout out.

Shout out Isaac the guy in L.A.

Okay, the L.A. Comrade.

Isaac, literally an IGB, died in the wool.

Super-based guy.

You know, shout out Marcello um shout out marchello shout out uh hui you know i'm missing a ton of people

obviously shout out malumbo malumbo's based as fuck everybody we're not like everybody was so fun to be around and so cool to be around and guess what i

went to california and i was doing the work as well you know i was doing in the limited capacity

you know i was doing drayage i woke up early for the drayage stuff and um you know obviously I was doing drayage. I woke up early for the drayage stuff

and, you know,

obviously I streamed the convention.

You guys saw that

and how that went down.

But then we also,

we also had that barbecue.

I didn't stream that

because I was having so much fun. One of the reasons I wasn't

live streaming everything I was doing was because I was actually straight up enjoying myself

for a lot of that. Like we were, that barbecue we had in L.A. was so fun. Like everybody was

gathered. We were telling crazy jokes. Everybody was laughing. We were telling crazy jokes.

Everybody was laughing. We were having

cigars. Great time.

Okay?

And our people are

super chill to be around. Like, by

the standard of society. I'm not talking

about by the standard of society i'm not talking about by the standard of political groups by the

standard of society itself we're super chill to be around and it's so true because like we will

like we'll like mob it up and go out and like we will like everyone finds us chill we're like

hanging out with everybody even non-party people and it's like that's because we are actually our

generation and that's what I love about our party

is that we are our generation.

We need to stop worshipping these fucking boomers

and, like, idolizing them.

And by the way, like,

the elderly people within our party are super chill, and, like, we love them.

They're our comrades.

And they run it up with us, and, like, you know, they have a good time just like we do, you know.

That's why they're so cool.'s like you know having barbecues telling jokes having a good time um when i say boomers i'm talking about these legacy

institutions that people for some odd reason,

larp, why are you trying to larp some outdated shit that has no resonance with the society

we're living in? Like, this thing we're doing should not be boring.

This thing we're doing should not be un...

It should not be uncanny.

It should not be emulating boomers.

The boomers are the ones that failed us, okay?

The people in the CPUSA,

they fucking failed us.

Hey, that's the truth. They failed us.

Even Gus Hall, as much

as he was relatively better,

he failed us. CPSA

failed us. Something they were doing was very

wrong.

And we need to wake up to that fact and not have this imposter syndrome where we feel like the only way we can take seriously what we do is if we larp and pretend like we are like super corporate and professional, you know, like, like, you know, look, I'm cool with suits, but that whole suit socialism shit, that was not our shit. That came from CPI.

Suits are fine for our, like, super formal events, like conventions and stuff, but there's no need to

overdo it.

And there's no need to be,

formalism is bourgeois.

It's actually bourgeois, you know?

And being

stuffy and rigid and shit is just hypocrisy because people find ways to enjoy even that shit.

And you know what I'm talking about?

Boomers are hypocrites.

It's all this bourgeois institutional nonsense where they pretend like

they're super serious and super

whatever but behind the scenes they have

all these weird perversions and shit

because like they can't just be normal

in the natural sense of

the word right?

Didn't Lenin wear suits all the time?

Yeah, because everybody did.

In the 1900s, everybody was doing that shit.

And also, let me continue talking about that.

Even then, even then, Lenin was coming out of social. Don't look at Lenin and say everything he did was

like absolutely what we have to like one for one emulate. Look at what, look at the groundwork Lenin

laid. He broke with social democracy. Did he still carry some baggage? Yeah. For example, there was ambiguities around the national question that weren't fully sorted out because of that baggage from social democracy. Uh, Mao's criticism of Stalin about the peasantry that actually probably comes from social democracy, you know?

Look at their trajectory.

You go from Lenin to Stalin, okay?

It's all an evolution of drip when you think about it.

Lenin to Stalin.

And then Mao, okay, think about it.

Then Mao's just chilling.

Mao met Khrushchev in swimming trunks to disrespect his bitch ass.

Mao was a gangster.

Mao was on some real shit.

Mao literally was a troll. All right? Mao was a gangster. Mao was on some real shit. Mao literally was a troll.

Mow was a troll.

He would laugh at nuclear war.

Then you go from Mao to Che Guevara,

the swagmaster of our movement.

Dude smoking cigars,

he's got fake Rolexes on, is based by the way because it's basically

it's a it's a complete defiance of bourgeois culture you're literally wearing that fake shit

like yo we get it for cheap and we still have the same bullshit prestige you pretend to be fron and having, you know?

And that was, and then you go to the Black Panthers, and it's like, that's the road we're on.

We're not here to go like back to fucking Bernstein and Karl Kotzky in the 1900s.

Like, you know how there's always those nerds in school?

They're like, I want to go back to the 1950s.

And they're like wearing old shit.

And they're like, I miss the old society before

gangster rap. That's not us. We can't be like that. That's some CPI shit. We'll never be that.

Okay. Ever, we, we need a purge.

Whatever's remaining of that in our ranks,

I don't think there's a lot of it.

But it needs to be fucking completely gotten rid of

because we are the generation

that's going to fucking lead the future.

The fucking boomers

failed us.

They don't know what they're doing.

Legacy

institutions are

dying.

We're living in a new

world

that only we

understand and we

have the keys to

inherit.

The old ways, they're going to get with the program or be left behind

we're not fucking going back and

worshiping and groveling before these retarded

boomers who don't know what the fuck they're doing

okay

um we're done with this like thing fuck they're doing. Okay.

We're done with this like thing where we have imposter

syndrome and we're trying to pretend.

Like look, I love Xi Jinping.

You know, I love the CPC.

Glory to the CPC.

Obviously, you know, I will be parachuted into Taiwan the CPC. Glory to the CPC, obviously.

You know, I will be parachuted into Taiwan for Xi Jinping.

But we can't pretend like we have the luxury of the prestige and wealth that the CPC has to be pretending like we're some like

corporate thing.

We just don't.

We're, we're, we're, we're getting down and dirty

with the proletarian,

rugged,

like from the soil from scratch type of shit okay like we're creating this shit from the it's like

we're building this shit from the ground up that's not a clean cut process j k just like it wasn't for

ma when mao was building his shit up, that was not a

clean cut process. They were building that shit from the ground up. You can't institutionalize

that. There's no way to do it. For one year, we've been rolling with this continuity from the CPUSA, and we're going to start, there is going to be a cultural vibe shift.

There is going to be a cultural question. There is going to be a question of culturalization and not in the sense of creating it institutionally, but discovering our own memes, our own vibes, our own type of shit that we are going to have for us instead of like this

bourgeois institutionalism

that came from the CPUSA

you know

proletarian culture

shift

you know

absolutely we're Maoists

and we make a critique of it.

Straight up.

All these people that...

Let me tell you something.

I was talking to people, like, in person a lot.

But, like, I wanted to share it with y'all.

The rise of online socialization especially after COVID that was the death

stranding let's call that the death stranding because that's exactly what it was it's the death

stranding right and it's irreversible There's no way to going back to being normal.

There's no way to going back to being normal.

Everybody is now autistic.

We live in an autistic world.

And now everyone's trying to reconnect and find out how to reconnect after the death stranding.

And like, that's what we are.

We are like a terminally online community and that's fucking based. Because who the fuck do you think is terminally online community and that's fucking based.

Because who the fuck do you think is terminally

online? Do you think it's these

like PMC fucks

in the city? No.

It's isolated rural people

who have nothing to fucking do

because they're

fucking bored all the time so they're just on the internet

it's literally the most working class

thing is to be terminally online

all right

anyway

you go from that

to real life.

And it's like, it's so beautiful.

Like that's what we're leading the vanguard post-COVID after the death stranding to reconnect this country, reconnect humanity, allow this generation to finally be free of this simulation

prison that they're stuck in, you know?

So it's like that's what we're about when you think about it.

And this is the post, and all the reactionary retard larping boomers they're pretending

that they can go back to the pre-COVID world oh touch grass oh i do things the real way oh

we're going to do things the old way. Oh, I'm so offline. I'm so working class because I'm so offline. I wear suspenders in the field and I don't even know what internet is. I'm so offline. It's like, that's fake. There's no such thing. That's LARP. That's LARP. That itself is LARP.

Every single one of these fucking ops we have that are like, y'all are too online. You're fucking larpers.

You're a bunch of larpers who worship boomers.

You're larping as a boomers fart.

Everyone needs to be honest about the fact that everyone's become retarded and autistic after

COVID because of the internet and it's absolutely a fact it's absolutely a fact and we're

the only ones that are bringing back some chill vibes and like real life the way

you know why we're the move

and I realize this kicking it

back with our comrades

in California and Texas

we are the move

because like

I have never been in a social environment

where like everybody's kicking it back

and is so chill

unless it was family

only families kick it back like we do

right

and plus here's another thing

um everyone else's way of enjoying their lives

always involves some like drugs or some D-Gen bullshit. And like we have none of that. We are

literally, people have beers and like that's it.

Or cigarettes. There's a cigarette problem.

I'll acknowledge a fucking cigarette problem. It's like spreading

like wildfire. Everybody's like getting on cigarettes.

But like we actually have fun in non self-destructive ways you know red design what's up um that's so important you know and that is something sorely missing in our society and i feel like

every time i hang out with our people i'm like i only wish more people could just see how our people, I'm like, I only wish more people

could just see how our people are.

Like, oh, it's a cult.

It's this, it's that. And it's like, if you see

how chill our

social environment is,

every single person exposed to it

and is there, unless they're a're a fed like why do you think

our ops are so like obsessed obsessively like attacking us because they're missing out and they

fucking feel bad you know the wreckers basically um

yeah everyone would join us if they saw how fun we were

and that's so fucking true all right

that's what I'm trying to say like that's a big strength

you should play that shit up

and anyone who says otherwise is a

fucking hypocrite, because 95% of

what human beings do in normal

peacetime conditions, but probably even in

war as well, is they enjoy

what they do. Otherwise, you're not

living. Even in prison, they find ways

to just enjoy the time that they're

spending. However much

it's bad and they suffer, it's like they're still trying,

you know? So it's like

whoever's like trying to be

on some shit where they're like,

everything we do has to be

pain.

It's like you're just larping and you're a fucking hypocrite.

And eventually you're going to get into some perversion where you learn how to fucking enjoy that shit too, right?

So there's a lot of things coming on that front that I can't even share with you.

A lot of exciting news and developments, especially in California.

Um, all I can tell you, you know, is a few things like one infrared is going to be fucking super turbo grown.

Like, I'm growing the shit out of

infrared. I... Infrared

needs to expand big time, because

this is an online, terminally

online subculture that needs

to fucking grow tenfold.

Okay?

I consider it a huge, like a super important thing.

And I've always considered it.

And the plan for ACP was never for infrared to disappear.

Never.

You know, I had to put things on the back burner for a year getting started, but like,

I understand things, you know?

Also, I'm growing the show on my TikTok and so much more.

You know, the army, the guerrillailla army just got to grow straight up and it's

gonna grow okay uh straight up guerrilla army is gonna grow and it must grow and guys memes are everything memes are everything not concepts that's bourgeois idealism

memes are the materialist comprehension of how the principles of organization actually get spread, okay?

That's the truth.

And like, we need to fucking cultivate.

We forced memes are cringe and always happen.

You can tell when an institution like Arby's

is making a meme and it's so fake and cringe.

Infrared has never been like that. Infrared memes have always been

raw, distilled,

truth, bombs.

Okay?

You know how many, I saw fucking Peter Griffin on TikTok talk about Paul Pot.

Okay.

Like that's not, is that even us?

Who's doing that?

If we don't get in on it someone else is all right

that's all I'm trying to say

like shit is going on

anyway guys

I want to tell you that

California was great

I went to Northern first and and there was the, I had the barbecue with Logo.

And, you know, Logo is like a sage, and I respect the hell out of him.

And Logo really likes this carnival thing, this like carnival idea, you know?

And like, this carnival thing is exactly what I'm talking about in a way. Like, we make it fun.

That's how we grow this shit, right?

We had a lot of conversations about

the future of politics.

Hey, I saw it on my TL just today.

I saw, what I saw it on my TL just today. I saw

what I saw was that

apparently, you know,

Burkina Faso passed a law that

upset some Western leftists.

And so, you

see these like radical leftists

who used to love Ibrahim Trieri and they make, they're now spreading propaganda against us.

Oh, you're losing villages to terrorists, like literal French propaganda.

So that whole convergence that we've predicted for so long where they're just going to become

nato nazis is actually happening right uh also guys jennifer was there at the barbacue if

you could the o g legend jennifer was there and

I didn't know what she looked like

but she started talking and I recognized her voice

and that was such an honor to me

the director of the infrared board, Jennifer,

the first, the board,

the shareholder, what is it?

Board of,

what is it called?

The board of directors,

the shareholders.

She's like the head.

Because she was like literally the first person in chat in infrared's history you know

board of finance yeah um so but yeah the logo kind of just disappeared when he left no one

even saw him leave he just kind of like he was like a. No one even saw him leave. He just kind of

like he was like a sorcerer, like a

magician. He just vanished.

He did say he's like, yo, I got to go.

And then like we turned around once and then he

was gone.

So he must have

levitate it out

like yeah from the Sigic order

he's from like the Siguroror from Skyrim or some shit

you know

so

Red Design

what's up bro

bro the Amarillo crew bro Amarillo crew bro Amarillo Red design. What's up, bro?

Bro, the Amarillo crew.

Bro, Amarillo is a different... I'm just talking about California right now.

I'll get to that.

California, we drove from the northern part, for the Bay Area.

We drove to L.A. And along the way, I got some of the best

barbecue I've ever had in my life from those California cows. And I got to kind of vibe out

the rural California environment. It's great. It's a bunch of, environment. It's great.

It's a bunch of rural people.

It's white, Mexican, you name it.

And they're super rural.

And they're super based.

And I feel like it's like the infrared demographic, you know?

Like, just a super-based population, rural California, right?

Working class rural Californians.

And then we went to, we passed into L.A.

And then in L.A., we, you know, I went to the convention, which I streamed.

But it was great.

It was a great. I don't know if you guys saw.

We went to like a hookah bar.

Malumbo was there.

The only thing is, bro, me and Malumbo

were supposed to hit the studio

and record.

I was straight up

gonna make music with Malumbo. He was straight up gonna make music

with Malumbo.

He was like,

I got the studio guy

and we were gonna be

able to make a beat.

I was gonna make

a song called Tartaria

and it was gonna be like,

what was it gonna be again?

I don't remember, but I had an actual great idea. I don't remember,

but I had an actual great idea.

I had a great idea, and for music video

and shit.

So,

but the,

the producer or whatever, the sound engineer, I don't know

what his name is, He wasn't in town.

So,

when I go back to L.A., we're going to be doing

that shit.

So I could have made, you guys

know, like, I have the vision. I can make

music. I don't know how to technically do it but

like if i'm in the studio because the guy makes beats as well so if i'm in the studio i can make some

really hard shit and it would have been super based i got to go back to california and do that i

believe in that vision so much.

Anyway,

uh,

and then we went to,

we went to UCLA.

Amila with the 10. What's going on?

Amila.

Amila with the 10.'s up um la i'm just gonna be straight up

with you guys we have fun all right we just we just have fun and most of the fun comes from the

laughing that we do we're not we don't have to have drugs to have fun.

The way that we have fun is the crazy jokes we tell.

And I've never seen a group of people laugh so much as ACP people when we're all gathered

together.

Like

um

bro, but I was on some wild

shit like I convinced

a group of people that I was like a

Silicon Valley executive

and that we knew like all these Silicon Valley executive and that we knew like

all these Silicon Valley people

and that was from the Bay Area and that I live in a

bunker and

it's a crazy story.

I lied to them

and said that I was a way I was the

you know what Waymo's are there's

self-driving cars in like California I said that I was the lead engineer of Waymo

Marchello was with me he was actually being convincing Marchello because you know

Marchel's a Bay Area guy. So he was like smoking cigarettes.

He was like, yeah, the technology prototype, but he was using all of the technical language.

And I was saying that, they were talking about how, like, Waymo's are running people over.

And I was like, well, that's the price of progress.

And I would just say that

shit with a straight face and I like they were actually convinced right so then

they were like they were like wait hold on is there I am am I missing something? I was, yeah, I was talking, oh, I was, I was, like, also, like, belittling them. It was like, I think it was like a group. They were like these rich women, right? I was like belittling them. I was like, yeah, I don't usually talk to poor people, but I'm doing it today.

It was so funny.

I was like, they were super entertained, though, right?

So they're like, all right, so call the Waymo.

So I called one.

And, like, we were all going to the Waymo because they wanted to go somewhere else right so uh i i i um

i like when the waymo came i like ran up to it and i was like pretending to inspect it and shit like i know what i'm like oh i got to inspect it and see what's going on we're doing

diagnostics to run the tests.

It was so crazy.

I mean, look, is that serious work?

No, but it's like that was an adventure straight up.

Me, Isaac, and Martello.

I was actually like hilarious.

I should have, I don't know why

I do the best stream content offline.

Like, if I stream that shit, you guys would have been dying, laughing.

It was the most, one of most top ten hilarious things ever done.

Was like lie to all these LA people that I uh I'm the leader engineer anyway um

that was fun but uh no I did I went to the Dreyage um I talked to a lot of the Dreyageers. Well, by a lot, I mean like

probably a dozen or so. The trucks are pretty big, so

it's kind of, I talk to them like from

while they're in their trucks about it. Look, can I tell you guys something about

Dreid's truck organizing?

It's fish in a barrel.

Like, they're already ready.

They're ready.

Like, just go do it.

They're receptive.

They're waiting for this shit.

You don't even have to convince them. Like, they're straight for this shit you don't even have to convince them

they're straight up waiting

for this message

like every single one

was receptive big time

and more

like they would ask me questions

like oh when is this getting off the ground how soon i can't wait

you know and that was in l.A which is behind new work in terms of like progress on the organization

front but it's a super promising thing that we're doing there, right?

And it lines up so well with all these other plans we have.

I'm telling you, the stars align so well.

The trucking, it's like transportation across the country.

We're going to have that locked in.

And then there's other things,

some crazy ideas that are very viable that I heard that are going to work

really well, right?

So guys, You just got to do it

You know

And I feel like a lot of people don't do it

Because they just

I don't know

They're discouraged

I get that it's super early

I understand

I woke up at 5 a.m.

To go

to that

to go to that

to go to the

port in

an O.C.

But you

just got to

do it and

you know

you got to do it and it works.'s straight up it's fish in a barrel in terms of how many people you can get to sign up for the union for the organizing and

So yeah, I mean I, I check that out as well.

You know, I was shown a lot of other promising projects and development that are kind of top secret, but are going, they're so based.

I don't even want to say them because I don't want to even jeopardize them by talking about them.

Super promising stuff. Let me tell you guys something. L.A. and California, it's like there's something about that place, like the heart and soul of infrared, straight up, because I was there for 45 days in the formative years of the Jackson Alliance, the Sacred Jackson Brotherhood, the immortal friendship, and fraternal brotherhood of Infrared and Jackson was born in L.A.

And it's like the whole vision was planned there and plotted.

And it's like going back was super nostalgic.

But I could live in L.A. straight up because the vibes are so on point.

My skin is always looking fresh.

I never have this dandruff problem.

I have a huge dry skin issue in Michigan for some reason.

I don't have that issue in L.A.

And vibes are just super good.

And, you know, there's a lot of infrared people there.

Like, it's crazy.

How many are there?

Like, just from the community, you know?

California, it's just great place.

California is where, like, this hyper-liberaliberal, you know, global empire was born,

and that's where it's going to die, you know?

It's a, it's the barbaric frontier of the USA.

So I have, and these aren't the full extent of my thoughts on the California trip, but it was so, it really, like really increased my morale and made me super optimistic about our future, big time.

Not just in terms of what's already on schedule for our party, but something even more grand and greater, okay, that I have full, absolute faith in. Okay, like, let me tell you

guys, the future is bright. Straight up, the future is bright, okay? And, um, Uh, that's,

I guess that's all I'm going to say for California.

Is there anything else?

Yeah, I think that's it.

Uh, not bigger than the the party but like big for the party you know big big stuff so then amarillo okay amarillo texas this is the american step it's literally a step climate. It's a step environment. It's like Mongolia. It's actually all flat. Amarillo is super beautiful, super pleasant place with beautiful people in terms of their soul, their hospitality, their culture, extremely hospitable.

You know, maybe I'm just white passing. I don't know, but like all the old people would come up to me and they were so chill and nice and friendly.

Old ladies are a big fan of me, big time, which was super charming.

You know, where do I even begin with this

okay

the Amarillo crew

first of all shout out Maddie

okay Maddie's the one who organizes

entire thing so this was all Maddie

so shout out Maddie for organizing

this entire thing but Maddie. So shout out Maddie for organizing this entire thing.

But Maddie organized this extremely cool

like I felt like it was a field trip.

Like one of those cool ones.

Like in high school or some shit, right?

Because the first thing we did is we went on this hike,

this really beautiful,

I think it was a natural reserve or something,

but it was like a full rundown of the ecology

and the environment in Amarillo and it had

these crazy rocks man it looked

like Africa with all these trees and these rocks

and shit.

She was like

wow it was like I felt like I was in

I thought like I was in Africa

or some shit, right?

But we basically had a tour guide and it's super interesting.

He was giving us the rundown about the water cycles, the aquifers, how everything, the geology, the ecology, the bio region, the plants, the animals, the habitats.

And that shit's super interesting.

And it's so funny that people call me a LaRushite or some shit.

When actually I love ecology.

I think ecology is super interesting and important. We are an ecological party, but ecological

doesn't mean green because ecology includes geology, right? Ecology is just about how natural systems work and being cognizant of those systems. Now, what you do with them is on you, but, you know, some people have a superstitious attitude toward natural cycles and systems where it's like avatar or some shit

but this is more about just like how do these systems actually work where does the water come from

what's like how does it actually get replenished and at what rate? How does it interact with the environment?

You know,

what are the various networks

and systems at play in environments?

Jason, what's going on?

And, you know, it was a super interesting

talk this guy gave because he was talking

about, I mean, he wasn't even an ideological, like fanatical communist by any means. He was sympathetic to us. But what he was telling us is that like what creates a common interest of people in a region, just by default, is the shared environmental dependency they have. Now, he was talking about

the bioregion of Amarillo and it included parts of the Rockies, and it was about specifically

like how the water cycle, he explained it in a really particular way. And I bought into it. The guy was like, you know, that these borders are not really meaningful

because they don't actually establish the common...

Like, we have this shared environment that's unique to this region that gives us a common character.

It gives us a common culture. it gives us a common culture, gives us a common temperament, it gives us a common problems and way of life.

And he's like, all of our state laws are like, they're all different, we don't work together,

even though we have the same common interests and same region that's all interconnected, right?

And I was, it totally won me over.

Now, does that mean our party's going to change its chapters thing?

It's like, probably not because we'd have to do that at the convention.

But nonetheless, the point was we'd have to do that at a national Congress.

But he made a very intelligent point, and I'm not against ecology.

I'm not a LaRushite who opposes

ecology as a science. I actually think it's super interesting

and important.

So, you know,

I got to say that that was that was an extremely informative and and enlightening and very nice just just in general that hike we went on it was super uh super interesting, you know.

So we did that.

And then, precisely after that, what did we do?

I think later that day is when we went to dinner to that steakhouse.

And, oh, I had a meeting with the executives that were president and also the regional leaders in Texas.

But I tried to stream that steakhouse we were at.

And I don't know where the fuck you guys were.

Okay?

Because like nobody showed up to the stream.

I was shocked.

Like y'all straight up just did not show up.

And then I was like, okay, I'm going to make it go interesting and just like take the camera

somewhere else to make the content better.

And it died.

And I was like, yeah, I'm not going to restart this stream.

Like barely anyone showed up.

It was like a Friday.

But I'm going to tell you guys you missed out.

Let me tell you guys why you missed out on that stream

and there was actual content

that you missed out on

that you should have actually invested in

I shit you not

after the stream was over

like an hour later, a fucking cowboy Trotskyite came to the table.

A guy dressed in a cowboy outfit, who was randomly a Trotskyite

started fucking arguing

with Kyle and Abe

about Trotsky

it was the

waiter he was one of the waiters at the restaurant

so in a

random fucking place in Amarillo, Texas,

there was a fucking

Trotskyite cowboy.

And

y'all, because y'all

were not patient with the stream, you didn't

see it and it wasn't stream.

Like the content came to us and y'all were not having it because of a lack of patience.

Whenever I fucking say there's an IRL, everyone has to get on that shit because nature itself is giving us content.

And like, I cannot have this thing where y'all are not showing up to the IRS.

Because this is like golden content. that would be eternal memories forever

so

no he didn't recognize us actually

he did not recognize us

that's the crazy thing

he didn't recognize us

um Um Um sorry, I just got a funny message.

All right.

Sorry.

Sorry.

Oh, man.

So, yeah.

I mean,

yeah, that was a fun night. And then I think, uh, what do we do? Yeah, we went.

Stral standing said there was like a Texas Airbnb. Um, it was a really nice place. It was like in the middle of a giant field.

And, you know, we kicked it back, had cigars.

We were, uh, we went to, we, we left early though because we had to get up for the horses in the morning, right?

So that's another thing Maddie signed us up for.

She put together this thing.

So there were two groups, you know.

One group was riding horses, but their slots got filled up.

So another group went hiking.

So Amarillo has this like canyon that's like the second biggest

after the Grand Canyon.

So they were hiking through Death Valley

basically with like all the fucking rad

scorpions and shit. Like dying

of heat stroke we thought

they died I don't know what happened

um

and then we were riding our horses

like up to the canyon but not down into it

so we were overlooking them like

aristocratic nomadic kings

strasani what's going on anyway um i wrote a horse

for the first time my life okay and my only regret is that they didn't allow me to like fully

charge with the horse like at full speed

but something was stirring inside of me

I don't know what if it was ancestral blood memory

I knew how to fucking ride this horse

like I knew the vibe I understood

I was like the horse's vibes I got it I and I knew what I

had to do like I started running with the horse I didn't even ask them how to do that they had they

gave us instructions on how to ride these horses just to like walk.

I knew how to make it run.

So I started going at a higher speed every single time.

It was like, what time is it, Mr. Fox?

She would like turn around and she would be like, stop it.

It was so funny,

like me and the Oklahoma guy,

Woody,

we'd be like,

we'd be running with the horses.

And then when they'd turn around,

be like,

whoa,

we can't control this horse.

It's just running on its own.

Anyway, this horse, I wanted to book it full speed, Tartaria style. Like my ancestral blood memory was calling for me to just like ride in the wind.

And I really don't like that I wasn't able to do that.

Like, I wanted to charge full speed.

Like, it felt so natural, writing, being on this horse felt so natural.

Like I, like, ancestral blood memory kicking in.

It was crazy.

Um, so look,

let me tell you,

yeah,

carmic memory,

whatever it is.

Anyway,

and then,

um,

uh,

I think that's the same day.

We also went shooting,

went to the range.

PJ,

the based,

brought, like, a fucking silencer,

like some 007 shit.

We had an AR-15 in 223.

That was fun to shoot.

We had another rifle that we used 9mm.

We were just shooting for like an hour. We were just like wasting rounds.

And that was fun. We just went to the range. It was fun.

Now, was it the same as Russia where I could just unload full auto in the middle of a fucking field

without any restrictions?

No, but

it was still quite fun.

And so we were doing that.

Before then, I think we had lunch.

And then they had a barbecue back at their Airbnb.

They made these really good burgers, and we were all like kicking.

We were just, at that point, we were chilling because we had nothing to do in the morning.

So we were just kicking that point we're chilling because we had nothing to do in the morning so we were just kicking it back and then i i had a lot of ideas so there's this giant open field i was like let's go get fireworks

but all firework places were, so that didn't work.

And then I told Maddie, I was like, listen, the neighbors right there, they have horses.

Like, their neighbors, like, far away.

You could walk there.

They had, like, a horse stable.

And I told her, I was like, I want to ride a horse. And I want to go fast. So we had an

idea. I was like, listen, I brought her and two other white guys. And I was like, you guys need to go,

or she needs to go to the door, because kind of look scary and she needs to say that

i'm like from out of town and that i'm like some eastern european guy who's visiting and that she

needs to charm them and you know the whole southern solidarity she needs to charm them and, you know, the whole Southern solidarity. She needs to, like, tell them that it's like, um, it's, it's my birthday and that, uh, I want to ride a horse and it's my dream, my whole life. Uh, the, the first idea was her telling them

that I was retarded

and that it would be so nice

because he always talks about horses

and he's yelling about horses.

But we didn't do that

because then we realized

they wouldn't let us ride the horse

because it's a safety hazard so we went

the second idea and you know these are like rural old white people you know so this was an

operation i just brought the white people for this operation, you know?

Not that I'm accusing them of the old people of racism. I just, you got to be safe, right?

But that plan failed because by the time we got there, they were like sleeping and the gate was closed.

And if we crossed it, they had the right to shoot us.

So it didn't happen.

But it was still a fun night.

It was still fun.

We did karaoke. No, we actually, we didn't.

We were going to do karaoke. We were

like, we were like a panel of

judges, but we didn't do it

because

we realized we didn't want it because we realized

we didn't want to hear people sing.

It was a fun night.

You know, it's like, it's fun through laughter.

You know, we're laughing a lot.

Yeah, it was,

Orvo was there.

Like, Orvo,

you guys,

like,

Orvo's the most hilarious guy in the world,

but he actually,

like,

doesn't laugh that much.

And when he's cooking the craziest memes,

he's actually,

like, he has a straight

face the entire time I saw it in person

so Orvo

the based was there a lot of

base people were there

everyone who was there was based actually

everyone was super chill

and what can I say it was like a cookout we had a bar we

oh let me tell you there's a missing part of the story next door to us like right next door

there was another Airbnb and it was this giant Mexican family that rented it out for their birthday party of their abuela or something, right?

So they had a Mexican band that was like, hoi!

And they were like singing, they had that whole band with all those instruments and shit.

It was super loud.

It was super lit and based.

They were bringing the energy.

So we went over there and like we met them.

We introduced ourselves and we were just like they were like y'all can

help yourselves to our food and y'all can chill with us and like run it up with us and it was like super cool

so we were just like going back and forth this like

neighbors giant mexican cookout slash birthday party i met a dude randomly by the way who was like

a mexican dude who is like in r, like knew a lot about Russia for some reason.

So it was crazy.

Like what a small world it is.

So that was a super fun experience, you know.

And if, yeah, honestly, if you didn't attend that, you missed out, like, straight up.

I'm not going to, like, lie to you or sell it to you otherwise.

If you had the opportunity to go, but, like, got cold feet and we're like, nah, I'm not going to,

you straight up missed out,

like for real.

Um,

like really,

you did.

I was an extremely enlightening

to one or two weeks or something,

like super enlightening. It or two weeks or something like super enlightening it was death

stranding too it was metal gear solid i was in the the that desert southwest environment

it was like some Wild West shit literally.

Super good vibes.

User Tom, what's up?

And it really reminded me of the golden era of infrared.

It was just this golden environment.

And I was like, damn, this is like infrared vibes back in the day.

Like, this is what it was all.

This was literally the environment where I was, when I was dreaming about CPUSA 2036, like, this was the environment I had in my vision, you know?

And, um, it's so important

for this vision and for this project.

Because I feel like this is where a new America is going to be born.

You know, this is this is where

the soul of our country,

the future of our country.

You know, that's where it's going to come from.

And you could tell there's just like a completely different vibe there where like people are very open to very alternative timelines in terms of politics and state building and state construction.

Because it's just such a different...

It's like the Wild West, but the frontier closed.

But this barbaric element still remains,

which has not been fully civilized yet,

and can't be because America's civilizing mission westward was an attempt to impose, you know, the vestiges of european colonialism onto this new land and the people that actually came and settled permanently did adapt to the land and become more barbaric

you know according to the east coast

like the east coast

is a totally

different world

than the southwest

southwest

is very barbaric

in the most

based possible way

um

honestly the thelahoma guys are actual like step barbarians like this dude told me that he ripped

a cricket's head off and ate it raw and that the cricket was still moving in his throat and I just looked at him I was like

but honestly it's like they're the Taliban like this is the American Taliban

this dude ate a cricket.

Because in Amarillo,

they had the giant crickets

that were attacking me, because I don't

know why, they're like giant crickets.

They kept jumping on me and, like, terrorizing

me. Specifically, they were

jumping on me. Specifically, they were jumping on me.

And

he was talking about how he would eat those

motherfuckers. And I was like, what the hell?

Shit, we're going gonna have to adapt to that

and then somebody else started talking

they were like yeah you know ant burgers aren't that bad

if you have to and you're in the wild

if you if you just take a bunch of ants

and cook them and make them into a burger

it's definitely livable and you could survive off it.

And I was like, oh, shit, we're going to be in store for a real struggle when shit kicks off.

Like, when shit kicks off, it's going to be tough, all right?

So for the time that we have, we should be trying to live as best as we can.

Straight up, because this is like the Stalinist American Taliban.

That's what we're going to become.

I didn't see any armadillos.

That's a good question.

I should have asked.

I should have asked where the armadillos are.

I saw a lot of the spotted,

whatever they're called,

the fat lizards,

the toads, spotted toads.

I don't know what they're called.

I've made a bet with dark about tarantulas.

Because when we went on the hike,

I was fearmongering about tarantulas before I came to I Amarola.

I'm like, man, this is where all those tarantulas are,

like big, disgusting spiders.

And I'm like, I know I I'm gonna see some tarantula

bullshit and I'm ready for it but it's not gonna be pretty and I kept telling

Darg that on our hike we're gonna see tarantulas and he's like all right you want to bet

and I was like yeah and I said let's bet

dinner you know when we go out to the steakhouse

who pays for who

and um

he won the bet there were no tarantulas

I got to get my

over my fear of the bug

I'm gonna be real like those crickets I gotta get over my fear of the bug.

I'm gonna be real like those crickets.

That was crazy.

They were like jumping on me.

It's one thing to just see them and be grossed out by them.

It's another for them to literally jump on you like literally attacking you

Spartacus is ready to debate

tell him to get in VC

tell him to get in VC

where's he at?

Yeah these bitch-ass people that challenged me

to debate

where they at

comrade banana what's up

okay tell them to get in vc Okay, Tom McGinnivie.

Tom, this is Danny Shaw's friend, by the way. That's what this is.

That's why he has a problem with us because he was Danny Shaw's friend.

So let's bring this guy on.

Tell him again, VC.

Or if he doesn't want to get in the Discord,

I guess we have to do a space, right?

I guess we got to do a space.

All right. all right all right I'll do the I'll literally open the space right now

if he's not going to get in show Q

I'll just open the Twitter space

flying ant what's going on to get in show queue, I'll just open the Twitter space.

Lying ant, what's going on? Anyway, y'all. all right so i started the space straight up space has been started here it is uh copy the link right here put it right here here's a space

so tell this dude to get in the space

and you know

and there we go

like what more is there to say

I'm in the space right now.

Apparently these people are saying that,

oh, why isn't he hosting the space? Here I am.

I'm going to make Rev co-host in case he can see people that I can't.

If they show up and I can't. If they show up

and I can't see them

and they're requesting and I can't see.

So we're going to bring them up

and we're

going to see who stands on business and what

because, you know, sometimes people can't

do Discord because they always make these

excuses. So this is going to be the test that you don't show up. You're a little bitch. Straight up.

These people saying that, you notice that they claim that I didn't, you know what these little bitch-ass people said? They said,

Haas canceled his confront the chairman on last Thursday. You mean the Thursday that I was flying

on a fucking plane? Um, what are you talking about

it's fucking stupid

like when I even if I wasn't flying I wasn't home

stupid

stupid ass thing to say like I'm here though I couldn't wait to get home and start a space though

they say this shit when i'm traveling because they're pussies they literally have gyna comastia

they're literally estrogenic little bitches and they feel emasculated just by my existence

because i remind them a little bitches they are

because they have no confidence they don't walk with swagger they don't walk with confidence they

walk with misery and depression bring this low bitch on what's what's the hold up uh tell me what the holdup?

Tell me what the holdup is.

Where's he at?

Where's this dude at?

Where's he at?

We don't know.

I'll be being Rev.

I invite you to co-host.

I'll invite Sewell to co-host. Actually, let me...

Buffalo.

Apparently, you're the guy talking

this retard.

All right. the guy talking this retard all right where you at

where's the dude at

where's he at

sounds scared

shit scared. Shit.

Yo, is this guy going to show up or what?

Hello?

I think there was another guy too.

There's supposedly another guy claiming that he's going to show up in debate.

When I was in California, he was saying, he was saying that I was dodging him because I didn't do my confront the chairman while I was 30,000 feet in the air.

So where are these people?

Where are they at? Because I'm hosting this shit right now.

See, imagine me

this is a little bitch. You're so scared of me.

You got to wait till I'm traveling. Like,

oh, he just won't debate me.

That's, is that how you cope? Is that what you

tell yourself to feel like a man, you little bitch?

Just admit you're a pussy.

You got all this nasty shit to say to me, and

you got all this big keyboard

nonsense. You can't even confront me with your voice.

These little bitches are talking about fighting and you can't fucking fight me with your vocal

chords, you pussy? Why the fuck would I take you seriously?

Talking about fighting, but you're nervous to speak.

Hey, I'm going to take that seriously as a challenge.

Get the fuck out of here, bitch.

I'm going to take a fight challenge seriously, but you can't even speak.

Sure.

People don't know that I actually stand on business, though.

That's the crazy thing.

That's the crazy thing.

Anyway, we're waiting.

We're waiting.

He says he's in Discord.

Okay, he's not in the fucking, uh, he's not in the fucking he's not in the show queue

he ain't in the show queue you all can see

the show queue he's not there

who's he who's you trying to fool

he's not in show queue

he said he's in discord

where he ain't in show queue nobody's in Discord. Where? He ain't in show Q.

Nobody's in show Q and everyone can see that.

Where's he at?

Ain't no excuses.

He's trying to lie.

He's like trying to lie and be like, i'm just there but no one can see me

it's like but everyone can see the the the the the the the vc's everyone can see them

bro people are so scared to me i'm just i've gotten used to it i'm like whenever i hear someone's

challenging oh where where where because it never happens because people are fucking terrified

to speak to me because they're pussies uh where where's he at where's he at? Where's he at?

Where's he at?

Y'all see how it is, though?

Like, not a single one of these people

that talk shit ever show up.

They never show up.

Like, oh, I don't show up midnight.

I've been speaking for like 90 minutes and nobody showed up.

Like, you know, the whole time when I stream, you can show up.

Nobody ever does.

All you got to do is hop in chat, be like, yo, I'll debate you right now. I'll hop in chat bill yo i'll debate you right now i'll debate you

right now simple as that but nobody ever shows up because they're pussies it's crazy

damn damn so y'all it's it's actually boring. You know, you're just going to make me the villain that everyone fears? Why do you gas me up like this and boost my profile as the undefeated warlord? Because that's all this proves is that I'm the undefeated warlord, because that's all this proves, is that I'm the undefeated warlord,

and I am stepping on your neck with my shoe, and you're on the ground, and I'm spitting on you.

That's all that's going on you see how they fear me you see how these cockroaches scatter in the face of light

i can't believe it he didn't't show up. What a fucking pussy.

So every time you've ever encountered this guy and he's typing on his keyboard, now you know what these people are made of.

They're pieces of shit.

Oh, where is this guy

let me see

are there any updates

no fucking way

the whole stream the dude was saying that he's ready to any updates? No fucking way.

The whole stream, the dude was saying that he's ready to debate. He's been

waiting for you, but once you

went live on Twitter, he disappeared.

Yeah, where...

He disappeared then? Yeah, it was like

five minutes ago.

He said I'm waiting.

Now he's gone.

He said, yep, I'm there.

It's him to hurry up nine minutes ago.

He never joined the show queue.

Unbelievable.

So this dude's just not gonna show up as soon as i called this bitch ass shit talker out he fled he disappeared

that's crazy out, he fled, he disappeared.

That's crazy.

That's crazy.

Y'all, I'm still undefeated.

I haven't gone to gym in two weeks.

I'm still undefeated. I'm still undefeated, y'all.

It's as simple as that.

People talk big.

I get excited.

Like, oh shit, you're going to challenge me?

You didn't do shit.

People talk big.

I got excited while I was away. I can't wait to get home and have these people stand on business.

I'll fight you, Haas.

Really?

And you're scared to confront me with your voice?

And I'm going to take a fight challenge seriously

when you're scared to even utter a word at me from your fucking computer miles and

miles away you pussy you're on that level of bitch made that you have social anxiety

to fucking speak through the internet and you're a tough guy who's going to fight in real life

shut the fuck up bitch not a tough guy who's gonna fight in real life. Shut the fuck up, bitch.

Not a single person has ever done shit in terms of confronting me in real life.

This dude's probably waiting for me to end

this space so

he can say that oh

now I'm ready

you're a pussy

dude you're a fucking pussy

okay I'll make a promise he's here

he's here apparently in's here? Apparently in the

Discord now. He just messaged. He just

messaged. Where is he in the Discord? He ain't in Show Q.

In VC chat.

Okay, let me see. He's in VC chat. I'm here.

Okay, get in VC chat. I'm here. Okay, get in VC.

Finally.

Kick.com slash infrared.

He's probably not going to show up in the space. Bro. Bro, what is going on?

Let's see.

I'm here

he's in the VC chat

in the Discord

but he's not

responding

I'm Johnny the commie, what's going on?

These people are terrified.

Why am I the, why am I so scary?

People are so afraid of the superior Afroasiatic intelligence because I'm going to systematically dismantle them and make them feel fucking stupid But then why talk shit in the first place?

You know what I mean?

Talk shit, then stand on something.

Don't talk shit and have nothing to stand on.

Then you're a bitch.

Right? right bro he mess

bro he messaged one thing in VC chat.

He's not clicking show Q.

He's not clicking anything.

This is goofy.

Yeah, he's playing games.

This is somebody playing games. It's not somebody serious about debating. this is somebody playing games

not somebody serious about debating

this is somebody playing games

but what can you expect

what can you expect

is this floating

bro people ask why like the community we have is like so like like like tribal and shit because everybody sees this kind of shit like it's so you want to destroy infrared it's so so simple. Then fucking debate me and win.

Just actually confront me and literally be more compelling.

And like, I promise you my community will splinter and scatter and people will not respect me as much as they do.

But like, when everybody constantly sees these bitch-made moves like Jay Dyer,

all these pussies, just leprechauns that are doing these tricks to avoid debating me,

it can't help but inspire some confidence that I'm actually

a guy who knows what I'm talking about because people

are fucking terrified to even

have any kind of confrontation with me.

Like, people are trying to plot and scheme all the time to, like, destroy our movement.

And it's like, all you have to do is, fuck.

Here he is, finally.

What a bitch guys go to kick.com slash infrared

he's now in the show

uh he's in the discord

so y'all got to watch it on kick

I can't transmute this shit onto uh on to onto onto

x go to go into my discord if you want to go debate me after this guy. All right.

All right.

Why are you mute?

Why are you mute?

I'll think it's mute.

What up, pussy.

We can hear you now.

Well, that's not very respectful now, is it? But you was talking a lot of shit on X, weren't you? Weren't you talking about how you're my, you're everyone's dad, you're going to

destroy me, you're going to crush me. So go ahead. You don't respect the workers. You don't

fucking work, asshole. And you don't respect the workers, you don't fucking work, asshole.

And you don't respect the workers.

You don't work, asshole.

And does Danny Shaw... Now you sound like... Does that bum Danny Shaw work?

Does that bum Danny Shaw heroin

addict work? Shut the fuck

up his costume. Yeah, wasn't he a professor

at a university?

Is that work?

You're claiming that's work?

Let's be calm.

I'll be calm for you.

You're claiming a professor

does real work, but a streamer

doesn't?

You're a joke.

A streamer actually works harder than a lazy, bum-ass professor who's...

What about Professor Michael Hudson? What do you got to say about him?

Professor Hudson is...

Nothing.

I do have something to say.

Why are you afraid of my response?

Hudson is respected on the merits of his actual contribution to thought and to theory, not virtue signaling how hard he's sweating while he's using his pencil to write, but the content of what he's writing is what we respect.

Now, Danny Shaw is a retard who has never contributed anything to theory or philosophy or to economics.

So now you're talking about how your party says that service workers...

Your definition of work about your...

...and morning and make food and drink for people... Your definition of work By your... Get up at 5 a.m. in the morning

and make food and drink for people

aren't productive.

Tell me how that work.

If they're productive, then I'm productive

as long as someone's paying me a wage to do this.

By your definition.

All that would be required for me to be...

You need to read Capital Three. See...

Okay.

According to your definition, all that would need to happen for me to be a proletarian,

productive laborer, by your definition,

is that I get paid a wage for streaming

the way I do. Why not?

Your's are productive. Bankers are productive.

What's the difference? Do you agree on that?

Yeah, I absolutely

regard them as unproductive. But what

what's the dividing line? Why aren't they productive?

Why aren't bankers productive? They're adding surplus value. Bank tellers that get paid a wage

to work at the cash, the register. why aren't they productive laborers by your

definition? Even though they're getting paid a wage. No, you're the one who's challenging

me. You're the one who wanted to debate. So you explain that to me.

What makes them unproductive

by your definition

of what a productive labor

is? Because by your definition of a productive

labor, which Marx contradicts various

times through capital... They act as an intermediary.

The act as a cashier essentially. They're not

adding value to any kind of a tangible, tangible commodity. So, okay, according to you,

tangibility is what decides whether someone's a productive laborer versus an unproductive laborer.

Necessarily.

Not necessarily?

What about nurses? What about teachers?

Good question.

What about you having a rigorous

consistent definition

of what a productive

proletarian laborer is

you don't have one

let's get away

from the theoretical

let's get into the practical

because you're

heading up a political party

you know

okay

no let's stay in the theoretical.

Why are we moving from the theoretical to the practical?

You're a dumbass on the internet who's never done any practice.

None of you or any of your guys are ever going to agree on it.

You're going to piss off

12 million workers saying that they're unproductive.

And you're focused on 80,000

draughters. When's the last time I've talked about?

When's the last time I've talked about baristas being unproductive?

When's the last time I talked about that?

You're the one crying.

Your ass is bleeding.

You got videos out there about it.

You're the one who's...

I thought you were to be respectful.

You're not respectful.

You're a disrespectful little shit who doesn't work.

Okay.

Who gets up at noon every day.

But all I would have to do to be a productive

laborer by your definition is to get

paid a wage. No. Exactly what I do.

Why not? We just established that. Why not?

Why not? But tell me why, from the perspective of your

theory, why not?

All I'd have to do is get paid a wage by some company that, you know,

employs streamers and makes a profit off of it in order to be a productive laborer by your definition.

So physically speaking, everything that I'm doing physically is not necessarily

unproductive according to you. It's just that I don't work for a company that pays me a wage

that makes me unproductive. By your definition, not mine. By your own definition, baristas are

productive. By what?

By your definition.

Are you an NPC?

I'm explaining your theory to you and why according to your theory.

No, according to my definition, they're unproductive. I'm just going off of your definition and applying it to me

consistently you're claiming that i don't work i assume you mean physically speaking right but by your

own definition of what constitutes real work physical exhaustion has nothing to do with it. It's just about whether you work for a

company and get paid a wage or a salary that automatically makes you a productive proletarian

by your definition. So by your definition, all a lazy streamer like myself would have to do to be a real worker, by your definition, is work for a company and get paid a wage.

No, you're using...

You're getting lost in the theory now.

Can you... What is wrong about my refutation of your theory? Explain how yours is consistent then?

For Marx's perspective, the question of other bank tellers are productive hinges on how marks define productive

labor under capital okay so why are they not productive by your definition they don't add surplus value.

Why not?

How do baristas add surplus value, but not bank tellers who work for wage at a bank?

They're extracted from elsewhere.

What? How do you know?

Based on what calculation? Because according

to the theory you're

coming from, all it takes is

for socially necessary

labor time to be crystallized

in a commodity, which according to you can be a service as well,

right? And, you know, for that to be paid to the laborer in the form of a wage and for profit

to be realized, which you claim is always surplus value.

So by this definition, if a CEO, for example, wasn't getting stock dividends and was just being paid a salary, that's a productive proletarian laborer, by your definition.

By your definition, anyone who's an employee of an enterprise and gets paid a salary or a wage

is a productive proletarian laborer.

No, I just told you that's not my definition.

So what your definition is. I just told you that's not my definition. So you're putting words in my mouth.

So tell me what your definition is.

What a productive laborer is.

You want my definition of what.

Yeah.

Someone who creates surplus value.

Okay.

So why don't bank tellers create surplus value?

And how do you measure whether someone's creating surplus value?

Can you explain that to me?

How do you measure?

Yeah, how do you know if surplus value is being created?

How do you know if there's surplus value being created?

They're creating surplus value from their labor. How do you know? That's added to the product that they're creating surplus value from their labor

that's added to the product

that they're selling. How can we know there's being

surplus value created?

Why don't you just use the barista example?

You can use

any example you want, but you have to apply

consistently. If you use any... You can use any example you want, but you have to apply it consistently.

If you use any...

You can use any example you want.

I'm just saying that you have to apply it consistently for your definition to be rigorous and comprehensive and logically coherent.

So whatever you're applying to

these baristas has to also apply

and... You're contradicting yourself.

You're,

by your own definition,

baristas are productive. You can't

quantify them.

I haven't, you haven't heard my. You haven't, you haven't heard my definition of anything.

You haven't heard my definition.

And let's hear what it is.

Okay, according to my definition of what productive labor is, productive labor is labor

that valorizes capital, meaning it not only realizes profit, but initiates the process by which capital can actually accumulate and thereby spread and expand. so that the process of the extraction of labor in the first place can have the ability to expand.

So labor has to have the quality of not only paying for itself, but producing surplus value

in the form of capital's valorization.

So to me,

that's the definition of surplus value.

And that's not always the same

as making a profit,

which Marx points out numerous times

throughout all three volumes of capital. And Capital Volume 2, Marx gave examples of unproductive laborers in the form of commercial workers. He said that even though they're being paid, he said even though they get paid a wage, and even though what they're doing is necessary for the realization of profit, they're not actually productive laborers. They're not actually transforming the material world in any kind of way. And because their labor doesn't actually valorize capital.

It's a cost of production.

Right, but can I interject?

Yeah.

A worker may produce socially useful goods, but is unproductive if the goods aren't commodified okay which is why we would say you know cashiers bank teller but i

banks are selling a bank teller or the person working at the bank is selling a service.

The bank is selling a service through them.

They're providing a service.

They're helping people open their bank accounts.

They're helping people withdraw money.

You name it, whatever.

So what makes what they do unproductive by your definition, but baristas are productive?

Hey.

Okay.

Now we're getting somewhere.

So if I, say I were to concede that bank tellers

are productive

they're exploited

now

tell me why a

barista isn't

okay so

and then tell me

why

but but you

okay look

all I'm doing

is rolling with your

arguments you notice that's all I'm doing is rolling with your arguments.

You notice that's all I'm doing.

You open this whole entire segment saying,

how dare you claim baristas are unproductive,

but you're an unproductive streamer.

You don't work.

What you implied is that what i do is not physically exhausting you know i have it easy i'm a streamer after all but all i had to point out was that your

argument is incoherent all i would have to do to be qualified as a real worker by your retarded definition

of what productive labor is, is get paid a wage and work for a company. And I could physically be

doing the same thing that I'm doing now, but by your definition,

I would be just as much of a productive laborer

as a barista or now a bank teller.

Right?

So right off the bat,

you basically came onto the show, into and you just shit your pants in public.

And that's all that's happened.

Okay, now you tell me why a barista isn't productive if a bank teller is.

I would say that neither are productive.

Okay.

When have I said bank tellers are productive?

You think I think bank tellers are productive laborers?

You're giving me my definition, which isn't even my definition. All I'm doing is holding

you to account to the definition you give me. You have to just apply it consistently. You don't

get to pick and choose when it's inconvenient.

You have to make sure you have a logical and sound comprehension of how you're qualifying what productive and unproductive labor is.

So if something, if you're saying, well, baristas are productive.

Eighthers are unproductive. So you're not, well, baristas are productive. Ain't tellers are unproductive.

So you're not conceding that?

You're going to continue with that?

Yes.

Okay, but what makes them unproductive, but baristas are productive?

Well, for one, they remain exploited, overworked underpaid, sure.

Their role sustains capitalism's system,abling extraction elsewhere.

Who are you talking about?

Bank tellers.

You don't want to talk about baristas.

But the definition you just gave of bank tellers also applies to baristas.

How so? you just gave of bank tellers also applies to baristas. Also, you don't even let me finish.

Okay, finish.

Ficking of productivity isn't a moral judgment.

It reveals how capitalism is directs labor

toward maintaining its own structures

you know rather than the social needs

the bank clerk is a proletarian

but his labor does not create

surplus value he's a cog in the machine

that redistributes that wealth upward.

Okay. Why is it that there aren't producing surplus value, but baristas are?

Well, why do you think? I'm asking you, it's your argument.

I'm just asking you to be consistent about what you're telling me.

What did you ask? Why is it that...

Okay, for example, you claimed that bank tellers help reproduce the system, right? Well, so do baristas. Obviously, they do. They contribute to the capitalist supply chains that exploit, you know, third world farmers, where Starbucks gets their coffee beans from

and they help valorize

or they at least contribute to the

process of the fictitious capital

that is the Starbucks stock

value and they're part of the

system just as much so

I think your definition is completely arbitrary. And

you know, it actually goes against the linchpin of the, you know, the unproductive or the, I guess,

the pro barista side. It's kind of absurd to qualify it like that.

Well, let's call them service workers.

It goes into a segment.

If you're going to claim that bank tellers are unproductive, but baristas are productive,

then your argument in defense of barista labor being productive is inconsistent.

Because you're not applying it to cases where it actually would qualify.

Barista labor, by your definition is productive

the same one that you use

to maintain a view

that baristas are productive

also applies to bank tellers.

From the Marxist's perspective, that's just not...

I mean, I get it.

Karl Marx is dead and gone 200 years ago.

But the distinction between bank tellers and baristas hinges on how their labor interacts with the capital, specifically whether it creates new surplus value or merely circulates existing value.

Yeah, but why aren't, how is it that Starbucks baristas are not just recirculating existing value how is this like commercial

workers well mark said we're that's what commercial workers were doing in volume two of capital

so how do you know that they're producing surplus value versus recycling it as a mere expense, as a mere cost of production?

You have to actually look at what they're doing. You have to look at the coffee. So you would agree that the physical aspect does matter. But if the physical aspect matters, then your entire argument collapses. If the physical matter, yes, it does. If the physical is so decisive, and we're not just talking about the value form of uh of of capital or the commodity

anymore which is what the pro barista side does they they resort to this kind of value form

theory that came from the german zionists like post, and he came from that school.

If that's the case and the physical does actually matter,

then what baristas are doing is absolutely unproductive

because all of the actual labor is being done in the growing,

in the manufacturing, just pouring

shit in a cup of coffee, uh, that service.

That does not.

Have you seen what these people do?

They're the cashier.

Okay.

They're the, they're the, they're, they're grinding the beans.

All they're doing is taking the finished products of...

But all they're doing is taking the finished products of actual labor and turning it into a service performance.

So that's physically... Physically, that's what they're doing, physically speaking.

I'm not going to stay here and say that baristas are more exploited than the people who are picking the beans out.

Okay, so you clearly don't have a coherent argument.

You're super angry about me and ass hurt and crying.

And why?

You're obsessed with baristas.

I haven't talked about them in years.

But you're on X.

You're crying. You're crying because Danny Shaw... You're crying.

You're crying because Danny Shaw, your master.

You didn't teach you autism well.

This is why you're going to lose people.

Because that's how you talk to people and treat people.

Why do you talk so much?

Pull up the screenshots.

You want me to talk to shit.

Hey, hey, pull up this guys, pull up the screenshots of all that crazy.

He was talking like he was going to rape.

You were like threatening rape, dude.

You were like some crazy shit.

I'm going to bash your skull and fucking stick my nose. You were like threatening rape, dude. You were like some crazy shit.

I'm going to bash your skull and fucking stick my nuts on your face,

and I'm going to do this, and I'm going to do that.

He was saying crazy shit on the fucking keyboard. But when he comes on fucking VC,

he's this much of a pussy that he's talking about respect.

Have I called you any of those?

Have I resorted to that yet?

Yes, you have.

You just didn't do it with your voice, you fucking pussy.

You don't respect you.

You did do that shit. You're just not doing it with your voice because you're a pussy. You don't respect. You did do that shit.

You're just not doing it

with your voice because you're a pussy.

You did type that out.

Well, I've got kids

and I've got people sleeping

in my house.

If you don't want to keep

the energy, if you don't want to keep that, if you don't want to keep, yeah, is that what Danny Shaw told you? Is that what Danny Shaw told you? Fucking idiot. You can keep that same. You can keep that same energy.

You want respect.

He was a great leader, that guy in Colorado.

He was completely respectful, and you lost your shit.

Okay.

Yeah.

And you were given, you were,

listen,

I can tell why you're

unable to

understand anything

about Marxism.

You were presented

with about 90 seconds

and you think

that's some kind of

exhaustive context

for anything that's happened.

You're an idiot.

You're like an NPC.

Anyone can deceive you and trick you however they want. You're an idiot. You're like an NPC. Anyone can deceive you

and trick you however they want. You're just an easy

target to manipulate because

you just see some shit. You don't even know what's

going on and you think you know the facts because it's being

presented in a certain way.

You didn't even investigate.

You didn't even investigate. I listened to you and Jackson,

you're my best friend.

Basically my best friend.

No, no.

I've been listening to you guys for years.

I'm going to smear him into the sidewalk, like the little spider that he is.

Yep.

You said you wanted to be respectful.

I could talk like a 15-year-old.

Because you're not willing to actually

engage the content of the debate. I don't care

about you personally. I don't

give a fuck about who you are personally.

Engage with the debate itself.

Okay. So

you guys think it's smart

to charge people $15 a month when CPUSA only charges five?

Is that smart?

I thought you were upset about baristas.

Are we just abandoning that now and going on something else?

Well, you wanted to go on some tirade

about something else.

You're not even developing,

not even like,

you're not even maintaining your argument.

You're so upset about this nonsense

that I even care about.

By the way, look.

You drop your prices.

You charge too much.

Okay.

You're going to get out competed by CPUSA.

I guess that's going to be on us.

I guess that's going to be on you guys are.

I guess,

I guess,

I guess,

I guess,

I guess,

I guess we're just going to suffer then that, you know, $15 a month for recruits is just, it's just too steep.

No one can afford that.

I guess you're right.

Well, that's something to consider notice something also like this whole barista thing notice how instead of like attacking

baristas which we don't do all we're doing is just organizing the workers that we think are decisive and strategic.

Instead of like attacking baristas, we're just positively doing what we think advances

the workers' movement.

And you're still crying about the fact that we don't consider baristas the vanguard

of the workers movement

and we're not expending all of our resources

on Starbucks workers. It's like...

No, we went out of your way to...

To do what? To do what? To say that we should

prioritize truck drivers

and... To say that

we should prioritize... To say that we should prioritize

To say that we should prioritize blue collar workers

over baristas in terms of our activity

and our work, that in no way attacks baristas.

That's not way a black collar workers.

That's high human. Baristas are blue collar workers. That's high human...

Baristas are blue collar workers?

What? Wait, did you say baristas

are blue collar workers?

Service workers.

People who work in restaurants.

Okay, sure. We prioritize

organizing

the blue collar

working class

and you are crying

and you're assured

about that for some reason.

That's all it's going on.

I haven't mentioned

baristas.

Because you're just

a little fuck.

Okay, and I still

slapped the shit out of you if I saw you.

You're five feet too.

Then you can, you can

just, if you saw me, you could see the truth.

That's all it would take.

You just, you're going to slap me as you see me.

I mean, you say that you don't support violence,

but you're threatening violence against me.

Having no knowledge that...

No, it's a metaphorical slap.

It's a metaphorical slap.

You little snitch, baby, bitch. Veterans, you guys don't respect people who get up at 5 a.m.

and work at Starbucks.

I don't fucking respect pussies that talk shit and then come in VC and pretend to me my best

friend.

No, I don't.

What you want to do?

Are you saying that you want to meet at the gym and settle this?

Is that what you're saying?

No, what I'm saying is that, what I'm saying is that, what I'm saying is that you actually show, what I'm saying is that you actually show and demonstrate you have an intelligent position and argument about that justifies your anger and your hatred and your vitriol and your threats.

You should at least have, Listen, buddy.

You're so angry.

You're so angry at me.

You're crying.

You're crying and seething. I don't hear Richard Woolpe talking like that to people.

I don't give a fuck about boomers.

That's why.

You're seething and you're crying

all because of this

theoretical argument about

the Ristus. In 10 years, you're going to be a boomer.

You're seething and crying

about... It's no younger than you.

They talk to me And they're like

I fucking hate that guy

It's like a frat club

Now you guys have potential

Why are you scared to hear the truth

Why are you scared to hear the truth

About why you deserve no respect

Well I'm telling you the truth

And you're you're losing it

Okay

You told me not the truth you wanted to be respectful.

Okay, I'll tell you the truth, buddy.

The reason why I don't respect you is because what I expect you to do coming in my VC is actually have a rigorous, I respect you, I expect you to have a rigorous I respect you, I expect you

to have a rigorous theoretical

argument that justifies your

disrespect that you used you

with your keyboard. Meaning

meaning, meaning

you should have your theoretical

shit together and not embarrass yourself.

You came into my VC

and you shit your pants publicly.

Now look retrospectively.

Look retrospectively

and all the shit you were talking

on X about how stupid I am

and how wrong I am

about theory, you'd think you'd at least

have a decent argument to back up

all that shit you were talking. But you came

into my VC. You came

into my VC and you just shit your pants.

You wouldn't even take it on.

You want to talk about bank tellers, which we both agree.

What I wanted to talk about was streamers.

Hey, hey, hey, buddy, I wanted to talk about streamers because remember your opening argument.

You don't work, Haas.

You're a streamer.

But by your definition,

what I'm physically doing

would be identical to

true real work.

All I'd have to do is work for a company

and get paid a wage to fit your

definition of real work.

No.

You fucking loser.

Like, how stupid is that?

Imagine thinking a streamer is a productive laborer and a proletarian, which I've never claimed.

You think that me streaming is real work?

Is that what you think?

All I'd have to do is get paid

a wage and work for a company and all of a

sudden I'm the same as

a person who fucking

lays bricks and builds houses

and fucking drives trucks

and works in mines

and I'd be the same as that

as all I'd have to do is get paid a wage

and work for a company and I could just turn my camera on

and dance and I'm the same as them.

You're completely misrepresenting it.

That's your definition,

but that's the definition

that you angrily use to justify

talking shit with your

fingers on the keyboard.

Why don't you show

what your buddies said?

I mean, you take one little thing that I said

because your friend,

whoever he is,

talks a whole bunch of shit.

He does the exact same thing you do.

He starts the shit talking,

and then I say a couple things and then

oh you're talking shit

you literally said you literally said

you said a lot of

things that were extremely

like weird

you were saying that you're

our daddy

I'm gonna do this?

No, I don't want to...

I don't want a grown...

I don't want...

No, I don't want a grown man

who has kids to humiliate...

I don't want, for your kids' sake,

I don't want you to humiliate yourself

for generations to come, your entire lineage and bloodline, to come onto my VC and apologize after talking so much shit.

What I want you to do is actually reflect about how maybe you shouldn't talk so much shit with your fingers if you're not willing to do so with your tongue.

I'm here.

And I said what I said.

You don't like it.

You don't agree with it.

You know what I'm saying.

Thank you, Funk.

What's up?

You charge too fucking much.

You talk too fucking much. You talk too fucking much.

Okay.

Who should give a fuck about what you have

to say on it?

You think 15 is too much a month?

I don't know what to tell you. You guys are desperate for

content, so that's why I'm here.

If you don't want it...

As a principle of honor, I was looking forward to debating one person who claimed they were going to challenge and debate me.

Now, you tried to debate me.

We tried to get to the bottom of what your understanding of productive labor is from a theoretical perspective,

you fell flat on your face and shit your pants. And now you're here talking about how $15 a month

is too much for recruits to pay in terms of dues. So here we are.

So you still haven't explained why baristas aren't productive.

If you're productive... All I've done is...

No, by your definition.

I haven't even advanced.

I gave you my definition, but we haven't

developed anything. All I've been doing is holding

you to account when it comes to your definition.

That's it.

I don't think bank tellers

or streamers are productive. I'm using your definition

against you. That's all I'm doing.

That's what you think. You think that any time a profit is made and a cost is expended to pay an employee.

You run from the service workers. No. We already established

that. See, this is your thing.

You're

gish galloping and recycling

things that have already been established

and trying to, you know,

because you know your position.

You're consistent about your definition

of productive labor and you're not. I'm consistent about your definition of productive labor and you're not.

I'm asking the same thing out of you, and you're not even...

Let's... Okay, let me give you a hypothetical.

Let's say someone...

Let's say someone...

Okay, move forward.

Let me ask you a question.

Let's say someone was let me go forward let me ask you a question let's say someone was a

way was being paid a wage and worked for a company and they provided a certain service now the

service was they were taking a pencil and lifting it two inches and then dropping it and they would

get paid five dollars an hour for this. And it became

a, and everyone started

buying this service and going to this

company that's selling these services.

You're using an example.

No, no, no, no, no. And

what's driving the popularity

is purely social. Like, it's just like a viral trend on tic

talk people find it funny and they're actually making money from it is that picking up a pencil

up uh two two uh inches is that a form of productive labor by your definition if they're being paid a wage since it's not like a bank teller who's just recycling money is that productive labor, by your definition?

The pencil.

No.

Why not?

They're not adding any...

That's subjective.

But listen, you just said the subjective thing doesn't matter.

All that matters is whether, you know, whether from the perspective of the capitalist, it's a productive, right?

Just like Marx was presenting in the theories of surplus value where he was giving Adam Smith's definition of productive labor, not his own, Adam Smith's, that it's just the perspective of the capitalist. I mean, if this is making you money, fuck it, it's productive, right? So, no. Why not?

You know why.

I know why. I know why for the same reason.

I know why for the same reason that I can confidently say that the service industry is not a form of productive labor.

That service labor is not productive.

Mark's the definition of productive labor.

It's tied to the social relations in capitalism, not the type of work or its physical output.

No, you're wrong.

It's a dialectical interplay. It's a dialectical interplay of both. That's the point of Marx's understanding of

productive labor. He doesn't fully agree with Adam Smith, nor does he

fully agree with the physiocrats. Marx's view comprehensively combines or dialectically synthesizes these perspectives, such that the physical transformation materially of the world, he does understand that as labor.

That's the definition of labor for him and productive labor.

And for him, that's the source of capital's valorization, which is something physical.

So in a sense, the physiocrats were correct to point out a material and physical foundation

for uh...

for political economy but

for marks their problem is that they were focused on one form of labor which

was agriculture

which didn't account for industry didn't account for

uh... technology in the modernization of productive

forces and relations. That doesn't mean Marx

abandons the notion of physical labor

altogether and that it's all abstract,

value form, social relations.

It's that he combines

the notion of productive relations. It's that he combines the

notion

of productive labor from political

economy, sorry, from Adam Smith

and the classical school.

For Marx, that one's too

abstract, but it's

still in advance

in the history of political economy.

And the physiocrats,

they're like vulgar materialists.

They're too

substantial

or too concrete in a way.

Not Marx's definition of concrete, but you get the idea.

Now, what Marx does is that he's combining, in his own understanding, these two perspectives.

His notion of what productive labor is doesn't discount the aspect of

use value and the physical

reality. It's just

such that he doesn't begin

dogmatically with a given

premise about what is

the most privileged form of physical

labor. He doesn't begin there. He begins with this kind of imminent critique of Adam Smith's political economy in order to arrive at a comprehension of how it is that real physical, productive labor in the use value sense is responsible for the production of value and corresponds to the production of value and surplus value.

So, Marx never in the writing of capital actually directly shows how labor directly, directly speaking, in an unmediated way, is valorizing capital.

Not in any of the three volumes of capital.

Does he do that? Instead, what he does,

is point out the contradictions of, A, the theory of political economy as it had developed thus far,

and B, the form of commodity production.

Okay.

And for Marx, this all invariably points to the conclusion, this contradiction that he's pointing out, that there's an element at play that is a driving force or even law of production which the

capitalist commodity form is unable to account for which is the fact that socially necessary labor

at a social scale and at the aggregate is responsible for the valorization of capital. That's the actual source of capital's valorization.

That's its actual symptom.

Right.

And that is downstream

from the physical transformation

of the world in terms of material wealth.

Like, yes, the abstract wealth, the abstract wealth, which is measured in terms of the abstraction of the commodity form, absolutely does correspond to the physical material wealth of the world that we see.

There is a definite relationship between the two.

But in order to show how one leads to another, how one corresponds to the other,

marks Danes to explore the contradictions within the abstract form of the commodity

and of capitalist relations of production as they exist in the form that is at play in production

through market relations and so on and so on he doesn't impose any of his own categories or concepts so this is marx's understanding of capitalist political

economy. This is his understanding

of the source of capital's valorization.

It actually is

based in something that

corresponds to material wealth

and its production at scale.

Absolutely.

I mean, I mean, cups of coffee, the service to produce cups of coffee and measuring that

relative to what it takes to, you know, manufacture goods or build roads and highways and stuff stuff like absolutely you can compare those two things and understand at face value how one is productive and the other isn't now it's not enough to just vulgarly point out one and compare to the other in terms of how physically exhausting one or the other is,

you do have to show through an analysis of, uh, of, uh, of, you know, um, of commodity production and

of capitals valorization and accumulation in general how that is, which can be shown

actually, which I have made arguments for. But at the same time, you know, common sense is actually right.

Most people's common sense is correct.

Marx is not here to dismantle your

common sense. He's just here to rationally

explain it.

You know, this whole idea from the Zionist

value form school,

which is Zionist

again Moishi Postone's notion of structural

anti-Semitism he would say that anyone

now you're painting me

as a Zionist and

I'm just trying to educate you a little bit about

you know you have this anger and animosity toward me about my understanding of productive labor, but you're not aware. Did I ever say that? Well, I could see from your tweets. I could see from your tweets. You're angry. You told me I was but hurt and I'm a I'm a pussy.

You said all this shit. Buddy, I'm reading.

You did the same shit you're accusing

me up. Okay. So don't fucking tell me.

Here I was, but here I

was, I think I was in California

at this time. And I read this tweet

from you, you go, I'm going to crush your daddy's little baby manlet nuts.

He's no soldier firing.

So you're going to crush, you said you're going to crush my nuts.

Doesn't sound like you're doing that now.

Yeah, because you just keep talking

and talking and talking. But you have nothing to

say.

You're happy to interrupt me.

You're happy to interrupt me whenever you want to.

But when I am educating you, you sit

down and listen like little bitch you are

because you need the education.

If I listen, I'm a bitch.

If I'm, if I'm interested in interrupting, I'm interrupting.

Because if you had the humility, yes, yes, absolutely.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

Absolutely. Absolutely. Because you were actually learning something.

Because you were learning something and if you had to learn something, you are a little

bitch based on how you compare your need and thirst for knowledge to the confidence you

exuded in those tweets of yours.

If you're so, if you're such

a humble and earnest student

and learner, why be so

disrespectful in your tweets?

Because you're disrespectful.

I've seen how you act.

And you're being, you said you're going to be disrespectful in this conversation.

You started out with the pussy and the ass hurt.

But I'm just going off of, I didn't even, this is the first time I heard your voice in my life.

Before then, all I heard was that you're going to crush my little baby manlet nuts.

That's all I heard from you.

So what kind of person are you?

The older marks is stuffed him in a locker from which you will never escape run

like you're talking a lot of shit bro

like you talked a lot of shit

you you want to dismiss

oh they're boomers

these guys have been doing it for you

yeah but they're retarded because they're boomers because

boomers are retarded because they're boomers and they're retarded

how many followers do you have how many followers does does richard wolf have and how many do you have? How many followers does Richard Wolf have? And how many

do you have?

I will tell

you right now

that the follower

account of

a given profile

is not as important

as the content of what they're

actually saying. Now, if you read

marks, he says

that workers cooperatives solve all problems.

So I'm talking like Richard Wolfe.

I mean, that's why.

So that you will be respect. Do you respect me now that I sound like Richard Wolf, who's respectable?

Because he talks like this.

Just, you know

it goes back to

you not having a law degree

I saw you

I saw you just

you were jealous

could I cry for a little bit

Danny?

Oh my God

I don't have a lot of

And John

Whatever his name was

Wait

I have a lot of agree

Wait are lawyers

Productive Labor

Yeah you're

You're insecure about that

You're insecure

Our lawyers Productive Labor's productive Laborers And you've got you're insecure about that our laborers

our lawyers productive laborers

and you've got a million followers

all right

but our lawyers productive laborers

he actually writes books

he gets he

he he

you know what do you do you talk shit you disrespect people okay i i'm pretty sure

i gave you a pretty comprehensive uh short rundown of marxist. Don't tell your parents about

ACP.

All right.

So, you know,

you said some,

okay, but are lawyers

productive laborers to you?

No.

So what's so sacred about, what's so sacred about being a lawyer to you?

Like, why is that so prestigious in your mind?

Why did you waste your money at law school?

Because I wanted to make money. Because I wanted to make money.

Yep, exactly.

Yeah.

You think I was trying to be a lawyer because I had respect for for fucking the bar or some shit, the British.

Who's that based American guy

who was in court

the living man

and he said

it's a British

accredited

whatever

and he said

it's all bullshit

and it's unconstitutional

that guy's so based

it's true

but anyway

look

you know

you think I respect British, British accredited, right, whatever the bar stand.

You think you think I have this immense respect for the prestige of this British powdered wood nonsense?

I don't think you're somebody that people

can trust to lead them is what I think.

Okay. So why are you

crashing out on them because they disagree

with you?

Creshing out on...

What is that?

I'm awake. Like, I didn't even know who you were you were just like crying at one of the

one of my comments

no your buddy wanted me

he he went and got his daddy

because he he

but you were talking shit about me because you were talking shit about me, because you were talking shit about me.

You talk shit about me.

You should say it to me.

This guy's talking shit about you.

And then you guys are calling...

You know what I know for a fact?

When this debate is over, you're going to go talking shit again with your fucking fingers.

Why?

Because that's how you are, bro.

I mean, is you...

I mean, if I continue to see that you guys are making progress, that I'm seeing promise I will support you

I will give you guys money

How have boomers advanced

Marxism in the past

40 years in America

How have you?

I've only been doing this for one year

ACP is one year Oh you've been doing it for like five years.

You're talking about infrared for four years?

Okay, in the four years infrared existed, ACP was born.

We created the most influential communist subculture that exists you know that right we are the

most influential capital c communist subculture in amer, period.

We have all the memes, we have the most meme value per capita.

We are terminally online meme lords,

and we created

Maga Communism

we created

the mechate

we created so much

and all these

journalists

and people from

around the world

took interest in it

because we

fuck yeah

but now

China's kind of turn

of giving you the cold shoulder

they're going with more mature

Marxists like

you know

Yonis Verfakis

Um

You're not

No I don't know the other guys you're talking about a misunderstanding with a private Chinese media company from like fucking a year ago. Okay, that was literally cleared up and fixed. So you're talking about nonsense.

China fucks with us heavy. Actually, the Chinese netizens fuck with us super heavy. The Chinese youth, they fucking love us.

I've had my shit go viral on China's social media. I didn't even try.

I'm not even doing it. I have literal fans in China that are doing it.

You should be proud of that. I am. Why would I not be? I can tell.

Now, now explain to me for me this is this

can we can we begin with you acknowledging that you regret

saying all that bullshit you were typing about me

no because it sounds like you're changing your talk regret saying all that bullshit you were typing about me?

No.

Because it sounds like you're changing your talk. It sounds like you're changing.

It sounds like you're changing.

And it got me on here.

So you think it was fair to say all that shit you were saying about me to me?

It's fair what you said to me.

In response to you?

In response to what you like?

I didn't know.

Okay.

You said you're going to break my nuts, dude.

That's what you said.

You said you're going to break my nuts.

You said you wanted to be respectful here.

But you said you were going to break. I said, I said, I want to focus on the content of the debate.

Is that what you want me to do?

I want to focus on the content of the theoretical debate, the substance.

Yes, let's do that.

So this is a, what you were saying is a, is a, is a crucial and misunderstood point.

That Marx explicitly demonstrates how labor valorizes capital in capital volume one.

In, in chapter 7 here

and chapter 9

he proves labor is the sole source of capital's expansion

right that's true

and the dual nature of the commodity

production he establishes

that commodities have use value and

utility and exchange

values. Socially necessary labor.

Okay.

Okay. So

capital's production aims not for use

values, but for exchange value expanding.

We know. We know. But the problem is that capitalism, the production for exchange value, runs into contradictions. For example, one of these contradictions being the tendency for the rate of profit to fall.

And these tendencies actually reveal inadvertently a contradiction between the use value that is necessary for society, according to society, and the exchange value. So that contradiction reveals itself

in what marks regards as the foundation of a new mode of production based on use value. So society is at a fork and it has to choose, basically.

This is an extreme civilization at a certain point between production at the level of what's

necessary for society as society sees fit,

versus what's necessary for the valorization of capital,

which enters into contradiction with it,

and thereby itself through the tendency of the rate of profit to fall,

because the tendency of the rate of the profit to fall is a consequence of overproduction.

Marx regarded that contradiction as incredibly ironic, because overproduction, it's creating more abundance, is creating more wealth.

And yet, in terms of how that's registering at the level of the commodity form and exchange value, it's actually the depletion of wealth. It's the depletion of value, right? So Marx regards that as a foundational contradiction of the capitalist mode of production that heralds the inevitability of socialism.

So you're not wrong by rejurgitating Marxism 101, but you're failing to apply to how that proves every single form of employment in 2025 is a form of productive labor as Marx understood it.

But I'm not making that argument. You are. You're putting words into my mouth saying that's what I'm saying and that's not what I'm saying.

Do you want me to comprehensively explain to you

why I think

baristas are not a form of productive labor?

Yeah.

Are you sure that's what you want?

I'm sure that's what I want.

Okay.

I'll try to make it as quick as I can. So in Capital

Volume 3, Marx actually has to sort out the question of, you know, there's this, it's called

the transformation problem. That's what the austrian

economist would later call it but setting about to resolve the problem of how the input

process of you know being paid a wage and realizing a commodity through labor and the sale

of that commodity in the form of profit.

How is it that at the local level of production that this leads to a tendency for an average rate of profit, right?

So there's all these disparate forms of production with these disparate magnitudes of labor value, and you would think that would lead to correspondingly disparate magnitudes of the realization of profit, right? Corresponding to the disparate magnitudes of value being produced, right?

Because not all labor is producing the same amount of value, not all industries and sectors of the capital's economy are doing so, right?

So Marx resolves this by, you know, pointing out that actually value is not actually being produced at the level of the individual inputs of labor in the first place.

Only from the perspective of the aggregate level of the total production of commodities

and the total labor of society, can we speak of the production of surplus value. The only scale

at which surplus value is actually being produced is the sum total of all society,

meaning at the local level of production, surplus value is not being produced only at the

aggregate level, right? And because of this fact of surplus value being produced at the aggregate level, oftentimes industries which are unproductive are, they're getting revenues that are distributed from productive industries, right, that allow them to realize profits by drawing from the productive labor of other industries and sections of the economy.

So there are cases, for example, where certain industries or certain forms of you know commoditization are

realizing profits just in this example right but they're not actually producing any

value because the the actual profit is the value so to speak

is merely being redistributed from some other segment

uh... of the economy right

so this proves according to marks and not all forms of employment even those that don't necessarily according to Marx, that not all forms of employment,

even those that don't necessarily,

according to his definition with commercial workers,

merely recycle value

in terms of, you know,

the

production of value,

that not all of these are forms of productive labor.

Some of these forms of labor are kind of like

basically leaching off of others, more or less.

Some industries are just leaching off of other industries more or less. Some industries are just leaching off

of other industries in order to exist

and survive. So they're not actually

the source of production, so

to speak. Constitutes? Strippers.

What?

I'm giving you an example strippers.

Well, yeah, that would be lumpin, right?

That would be the lumpin.

And the dividing line, you know, is the extent of institutionalization.

But so, yeah, that's Marx's understanding.

I'm just laying that foundation to prove, in contrast to what many people claim, that you cannot actually measure the production of value directly if someone is being paid a wage and then there's a profit being realized.

That doesn't necessarily entail that value is being produced, according to Mars.

Sure, But he explicitly

includes service

workers in

productive labor.

No, no,

no, no, no,

no, no,

he doesn't.

Right here.

I'll explain

I'll explain,

I will explain that passage.

I know the passage

I know the passage

you're talking about and I'll explain it to you, okay?

So when Marx is using the example of a cook, he's not actually giving an exhaustive application of his understanding of productive labor, rather. What he's doing is applying political economies definition of productive labor, and he's doing is applying political economies

definition of productive labor.

And he's using this hypothetical of,

well, a personal cook that you're just

employing for your own consumption

is unproductive.

But let's say this cook

and he's using

this as a hypothetical

in a vacuum meaning this whole

thing about the aggregates of

labor and value and commodities

he's bracketing that

this is a pure thought experiment

and it's a vacuum.

He's saying, if this cook

is valorizing capital, meaning if profit

is being yield from

the sale of this, and he also

uses the example of a singer in another example,

but if this is able

to expand capital through the profits being

realizing, like create an entire industry out of this, he's like, then by that definition,

it would be productive labor. But here's the problem. He also ends in the singer example. He says,

but for now, these are only infinitesimal

magnitudes or parts of production. Now, why does

he actually say that? Because

it is actually impossible

for those kinds of

industries to valorize and expand

capital in practice. In actual

practice, what we see from the service industry, is not this ground zero process

of employing someone and then having this kind of thing where you're out of the total balance

of costs and profits, you're yield of the total balance of costs and

profits, you're yielding

profit from that profit, you're using it

as a ground zero way to accumulate

capital. What actually happens

is that you're taking on credit.

You're taking on loans. And oftentimes

these service industries are forms of fictitious

capital is what they're actually drawing from, from their stocks. And they're using these revenues to expand, but the profits that they're making at the point of sale is not actually what's fueling the expansion of the capital.

What's fueling the expansion of the capital is coming from finance. It's coming from

investment being pumped in through credit. So that's the case for Starbucks and every other service industry.

So the examples Marx uses of a cook who's, you know, a productive cook or whatever, that was a thought experiment that is actually like physically impossible

in real life and he even

alludes to that fact

um

so you know

Marx's on Mark didn't create

the point of Marx's criticism

his critical method

was not to completely refute and deconstruct common sense and lead us to have these absurd notions that if you pick up a pencil two inches and get paid at whatever, that that's productive labor.

Marx was trying to develop a theory that could explain rationally,

you know,

what actually is in conformity with what we can observe with our common sense,

that we have a class of people that are responsible for the production of the overwhelming

material wealth of our society in physical volume, okay?

And that is somehow in this antagonistic contradiction with the form that wealth takes on,

in the form of the commodity form, and the form of money and exchange value, right?

He's not trying to tell us that capitalism is just, the reality of capitalism is just the reality of abstract commodity form and generalized production and an exchange value, because according to Marx's

definition of capitalism, capitalism also includes the seeds of a new mode of production, and that is

included in capitalism.

This is a problem with the German value

form theorists is that they

don't acknowledge that fact. They claim

that all capitalism is

the value form. It's purely

this abstract, transcendental

horizon of social relations that are inherently capitalist.

So it leads to this kind of a pseudo-Marxist like left-com Gnosticism where they basically try to say like, oh, behind the artifice of actual tangible reality of real

physical reality

it's just this pure

sciop of pure capitalist

relations and that's all that essentially

matters such that you can

even raise a pencil two inches

and if you're getting paid a wage and

someone's making a profit from that but that's not what i'm all that matters is the abstract

social relation and nothing else see that's that's not that is what i'm trying to say is that

that's not not Marxism because

the Marxist understanding of capitalism

yours isn't Marxism either. Yes

it is because I'm affirming

the Marxist understanding of capitalism

which includes

the contradictions and includes the

seeds of a new mode of production in it physically.

Like it's it's it's not just an abstract transcendent by the way Marx never affirms an abstract kind of Kantian transcendent horizon of social relations.

You know some Habermas German bullshit. He never affirms that.

His understanding of social relations, again, is a dialectical interplay between, you know, the reality of form, the reality of abstraction, and the concrete, and and the natural and the tangible, right? So Marx is not this kind of social solipsist who denies exterior. All this Western Marxist's nonsense from a rejection of Frederick Engels

as dialectics of nature and that's why the

whole

that's where the whole thing came from in the first place

and you're getting pissed

on Twitter and typing because

you're just affirming the German

Zionist

interpretation. I mean, you live in the West.

You don't live in

the East. It doesn't matter. I'm affirming

the communist perspective, the real Marxism.

But that's not... No.

My view has nothing to do with hating baristas.

I think baristas are workers.

I think most service workers are working class.

I have no issue with Starbucks baristas.

Baristas are working class.

I have no problem saying that.

But I also believe in defending the integrity of Marxism and not warping our, you know, basic Marxist theory to conform to people's feelings and sensibilities.

And I also think that in terms of strategy, it's probably smarter to prioritize organizing blue-collar workers if we have finite limited resources, which we do, over, you know, patting ourselves on the back just because we managed to organize yet another fringe kind of like graduate student union or something.

But even you yourself are talking about how difficult it is to get to these workers.

Do you go grocery shopping?

The the drayage truckers.

It's not difficult.

Hold on.

It's not difficult.

It's absolutely not difficult.

If we had,

if we had.

You got to wake up at 5 a.m.,

which you don't sound like you like doing.

So what?

Do you go grocery shopping?

There's a Starbucks in every single grocery store.

Okay.

Why not approach the...

I mean, part of the reason...

Yeah, but...

The point is...

Yeah, but the point is...

Yeah, but the point is the people that are

educated with Marxism

need to use that privilege

to actually empower people like

Dreager's workers, even if they have

to wake up at 5 a.m. to do it.

And that might not be pleasant, but it's

always been what's necessary within Marxism

that people who know the theory have to go

down to the workers and

actually help organize

and empower the workers with the theory.

Why not encourage your,

why not encourage your people,

your young people to go talk to other young people in the grocery.

Did we all go grocery shopping?

Every grocery store

has a Starbucks in it.

I'm not going to tell my people to go

accost Starbucks employees.

You think truckers want to talk to

commies? They don't. They do.

Yes, they do. Our experience

confirms that they want to talk to us.

Absolutely.

They want to talk to us.

I don't know.

I don't know, but it takes a lot more than to just personally talk to random service workers you encounter in your day-to-day life to actually get to a point of organizing.

Okay. When we go do drayage organizing, we're not doing so in any casual capacity, okay?

It's being planned.

We're printing our pamphlets.

We have our websites ready for them to get to.

We have specific classes or we teach specific ways in which, you know, how to actually relate to them. We have to learn and study their situation. We have to do research. We have to know what their sentiment is. We have to get a pulse on their consciousness. You know, these are not things you just can do with your thumb up your ass or farting in a grocery store walking around.

This is actually like something that takes strategy and planning.

And also I don't know why you have this fetish for like baristas so much.

Like, I have no issue with baristas.

It's easy access.

Then you go do it, dude.

I mean, why are you yelling at us?

We have finite time, resources, and energy.

In terms of what we're doing with our organizational capacity we're prioritizing blue-collar workers

there's 12 million service workers you even admitted they're blue-collar workers people who work

at McDonald's people who work at Starbucks people who work at Dunkin' Donuts people work at all

these places but if socialism

well, okay, there's multiple things.

The strategic sectors of the

economy are the ones that can be

that can't be shut down.

If you want to talk about practice and practice

alone, the way we see it is

that if all the service industries had to be shut down, that would cause shocks in the economy would be pretty bad, but it would not be at such a level to cause a literal political revolution, like automatically. Whereas if the strategic blue-collar sectors of the economy went on strike,

the society would literally stop functioning at the level of survival.

Okay?

And that's more important to us.

It's more important to us that the people who are actually like responsible for the real

physical existence of our society

not the luxuries not the lububu producers

not the Dubai chocolate chocolate we just don't think the Dubai

chocolateers are the vanguard of the proletariat.

That's all.

Obviously. But, I mean,

I think society can survive

without the Dubai chocolate and without the

macho lattes or whatever.

But it can't survive if the truck drivers stop delivering food to grocery stores and they stop, you know, delivering goods.

I mean, society will just stop functioning.

It's a very critical difference.

Sure.

But why exclude these other sections? critical difference. Sure.

But why exclude these other sections?

You could make the argument that those are just...

If we had the pull...

If you shut down all the fast food restaurants,

it's going to cause just as big of a problem.

No, it won't.

It'll cause a lot of loss.

It won't cause just as much of a problem.

People buy it fast food because they can't afford

groceries.

I promise you, people

will still survive because they'll have canned beans, okay?

They won't die.

They won't be on the street dead because there's no fucking McDonald's Big Macs.

Right, but I mean, it's so absurd.

I mean, it's absurd that you would exclude this other group.

I'm not excluding, but I'm not excluding anyone.

Like, where did I say I'm excluding anyone?

I have no issue with baristas.

I just, you know, one of my problems with this German Zionist-Marxist view is that it attempts to institutionalize degrading professions that don't physically need to exist from the socialist perspective of use value, but they're claiming that, no, we need to institutionalize the act of making coffee and make that a permanent, like, where, look, in socialism, there's still going to be people in the mines, there's still going to be people in the factories, there's still going to be people driving trucks. That's still going to be necessary.

But it's not going to be necessary that people are going to be cleaning.

It won't be necessary for people to massage your feet in order to be fed.

They're going to have self-driving trucks that are going to, I mean.

Yeah, you can, you can, you can, you can, you can check. going to have self-driving trucks that are going to I mean yeah

you can you can you can

you can check back with me and

and when that never happens but when that happens

I'll give you that point I don't think it's going to happen

I don't think the soft

driving trucks are going to happen

and by the way the current truck drivers have the ability to stop that, literally.

Like, even if it was technically possible, which it's not.

But if it was, let's assume it was, they have the leverage to literally, like, and happen right yeah they do they could just

they could just go on strike and stop it from happening and so the only way even if it was possible

to have self-driving trucks and this not nonsense idea of automating blue collar work, the only way it could be affected is a socialist society that ensures and make sure people can make a dignified living still and transition them properly, which we can't.

So, yeah, it's not going to happen.

I don't think anyone should have to ever be a barista, but I do think some people, including myself in a social society, should have to spend maybe one hour a day working in a mine or doing some physically demanding labor. That's my view. Like, like, it's not,

it's not intrinsically degrading that people... These workers,

these,

these,

these industries have high organic composition of capital.

It's less,

I mean,

that's,

that's the thing that I don't think you're seeing here is that they, those, those industries are becoming more and more automated. There's less and less workers in those. The proportion of the traditional, like the proportion of the actual Marxist notion of a proletariat

relative to our society

hasn't really changed. It's about like 20%,

20,

maybe 30%,

and it's never

been in the majority. Maybe, maybe,

I don't even think in Industrial England it was. I think even Industrial England had a large farmer population. That's what was, they were the base of the Tories for a long time. It's never really been the case that the proletariat was, for a long time,

industrial proletariat was in the majority.

That's just the fact, you know?

Yeah, I don't disagree with

the Dreyad trucker

Okay

I think that's

I applaud that I think that's good

What you guys are doing

I never said that that's bad

Look dude I feel bad for you

because it's like, again, you were

talking a lot of crazy.

You were talking a lot of crazy shit.

And now you're like,

you're shooting yourself in the foot in a lot of ways.

You just realize that you don't actually hate us.

You don't actually have this big issue with me. You're actually

chill with us. So why did you... No, but I'm

talking your buddy on there, and he starts talking

shit, and I'm going to go directly to the story. Let me

let me tell you something, right? This is what I'm going to

tell you. I don't care who you were talking to.

I'll tell you something

i'm not you may have this idea that i'm like a i'm purely like a uh an intangible celebrity or some

shit i'm really not even a celebrity i'm a human being you know what that means a human being like a coffee. I'm a human being. You know what that means?

A human being?

Like a coffee bean?

I'm a human being.

You know what that means?

A human being?

I mean, I'm literally just some dude.

I'm literally just some dude.

But what that means is I'm straight up just some dude. I'm literally just some dude. But

what that means is I'm straight up

just some dude. I'm angry at you guys.

I don't care, but I don't care, bro.

I don't care, bro. Don't let

the, bro, stop being

so terminally online in the sense that you

dehumanize me.

You can't just run out.

Bro, bro, bro.

You can't.

Look, look, I could be, bro.

I could be a Buddhist who has this, like, crazy wisdom and doesn't seem pretty safe person.

How much shit is you said about people back?

Everybody I've talked shit about has done what you did.

I've never disrespected anyone who didn't disrespect me first.

And again, I'm a human being.

You know what that means human being?

You know what that means?

That means although you're not getting to me and it's not getting under my skin necessarily,

I'm still going to stand on business and hold you to account if you talk shit about me.

If you say that you're going to, bro, if you say you're going to crush my nuts, if you say

you're going to crush my nuts if you say you're going to

crush my nuts I'm going to hold you

to account bro because guess what

because guess what I ain't no bitch bro

I ain't no bitch bro I'm going to hold you to account for that shit

just for honor's sake you understand

you can't just be talking shit saying you're going to crush my

nuts and expect me to just let that shit slide.

Bro, I'm not an elder grandmaster.

I'm not a Buddhist monk on top of the mountain who's just going to be like, I see you the wisdom. I'm okay with it.

Like people respect that, I guess, but I'm going to stand on business to defend my dignity because I'm a with it. Like, people respect that, I guess, but I'm a stand on business

to defend my dignity because I'm a human

being. You know what a being is?

It's like a coffee being like at Starbucks.

I'm not writing on your, I'm not

messaging you saying anything.

I'm telling your buddy. But that's what I'm reading.

But that's what I'm reading. But that's what I'm reading.

I'm reading that bullshit you're saying.

It's like,

this dude said he's going to crush my nuts.

Bro, I'm not going to roll out the red carpet for you

and treat you good if I read that you're saying

you're going to push my nuts.

You're respectful.

Bro, I have fun. I have fun.

I have fun.

Guess what?

I have fun roasting people and making fun of people.

And if you give me an excuse to do that, I'm going to, that's my interest.

I'm going to do that.

You, why should I look back?

Bro, why should I hold back?

Why should I hold back?

Why should I hold back? Why should I hold back? Why should I hold back? Why should I hold back? Why should I hold back from roasting you? Oh, I, I, I'm roasting you like a coffee bean, bro. Why should I hold back if you're going to talk that shit in the first

place? You gave me a pretext to

roast you and make fun of you.

If you don't want me to fucking do that, then be respectful.

I mean, you're not doing a very good job. I don't

feel any less

than before. I

see things that

you guys are doing that are just...

Because you're like a frog.

You're like a frog being boiled

and doesn't feel it. You're like a frog

because the entire time

you're like a frog that's being

boiled and doesn't feel it

but instead of a frog it's a bean

and instead of being boiled

you're being roasted because you're literally

my cup of coffee now bitch espresso

by Sabrina Carpenter

you're a fucking soy

latte bro I turned you into a fucking soy latte.

Bro,

I turned you into a fucking

soy latte

and I emptied

you into the

river so all the

fucking bitch-ass

people will

drink it up

and grow gyno.

You're literally,

you're literally

a Laboo-boo,

bro.

You're a

loboo.

You're a baboo, bro. You're a loooboo.

You're a lobooboo, bro.

I work with your guys.

Yeah.

And you typing,

you typing,

you typing,

you typing, bro,

you typing. I come into their construction project.

I brought the fucking tools because you don't have any men or soul Bro, you typing I came into the construction project.

I brought the fucking tools because you don't have any men or soldiers.

You got a much little boys.

You don't know what you're talking about.

You listen, bro, listen,

you came out typing

like you're Joe Lange. You want to be daddy you gotta act like daddy and you act like a punk i don't want to be part of your weird shit bro what are you talking about the fuck are you talking about bro you guys You guys worships Stalin and he's

fatherly. He doesn't act like

you act. He lets everybody

else talk.

I'm literally a

29 year old man. I don't know what you

fucking want for me, bro.

You have this crazy expectation that I'm going to be your I don't know what you fucking want for me, bro. Like, you

have this crazy expectation

that I'm going to be your dad.

I don't want to be your dad, all right?

No, I'm talking about your guys that are like...

I'm going to tell my dad.

I'm going to tell my daddy.

Well, I don't know you.

All Buffalo did.

All Buffalo did was straight up after you.

You didn't know who that was.

Bro, you roped.

I know who he is.

You roped me into some bullshit that had nothing to do.

No, no.

They wrote me into it.

No, you didn't.

You wrote, bro, you talk shit.

First time I need to debate him on a Friday

night and I'm like

I got a life, okay?

Bro, you started

talking shit about me and all he did

was to tell you to tell me

yourself, that's it.

And nobody talks

shit about you, right? Because you're just some

guy. No, you talk shit about me

do it in my VC. Talk shit about me

doing my VC. I'm here.

We've been talking for a hour.

You know, like, bro, you just shit.

This is a great conversation.

It is because you shit your pants the entire time.

You've been farting and shitting the entire time.

No, you've been talking the whole time.

You don't let me talk. Bro, you farted, and you don't let me talk.

Bro, you farted, but you don't realize.

And when I talked over you, nobody wants to hear that.

You farted and you don't realize.

This is your show.

You farted and you don't realize you actually created productive labor because you created a physical commodity in your pants.

It was a shart.

You sharded in your fucking pants.

You don't even realize it.

You think that it was just a bank teller thing?

No, it wasn't.

It was a coffee being, bro.

Go clean your shit.

Go wipe your shit, bro.

You just shit your pants in front

of the world.

That's all you did.

His entire stream.

It was productive labor.

It was a tangible, physical commodity.

And you thought it was intangible and it wasn't.

Some coffee shops do represent.

No, they don't.

Starbucks, you think Starbucks expanded its capital?

Do you think Starbucks expanded its capital?

Not merely external capital

inflows. Absolutely external

capital inflows and credit.

Starbucks's growth

was fueled by external credit.

Here's the problem. When I'm talking to your guys,

they don't, they just

just start past each other.

Like, I read what your guys say. I listen

to what you say and I respond to it.

All right, so you don't want to talk about the

external capital inflows?

No, I was just talking about that.

Yeah, Starbucks's expansion is not fueled by the profits made on the ground floor

it's not true no no it's not that's just an indication for investors to pump more money

into it because it's popular and it's it's in demand it shows demand yes that's

why a lot of companies that are in demand operate even at a profit loss but they're still getting

injections of credit uh no yes Starbucks's expansion is not actually fuel. No, the profits Starbucks makes

the profits Starbucks makes at the shop

floor are not enough capital

to initiate an accumulation process to expand. It's not enough.

Let me ask you something. Is Marx, is he talking about, is he studying socialism or is he studying capitalism?

What are we studying?

He's absolutely studying both. He's studying the breakdown of a capitalist system and the growth of a socialist mode of production from within it as a like a he literally uses the example that capitalism is like a pregnant womb, okay, and socialism is being born inside of it.

That's the example he uses.

But money invested isn't itself productive.

It's a claim on future surplus value.

If the copy shop fails, the value in question is never actually realized.

It's a claim on future value, but we are in 40 trillion in debt in the USA alone. And how much is the derivatives market it worldwide? It's like what? 50 quadrillion quintillion, quadrillion, quadrillion, quadrillion, gubernation. So yeah, it's it's not actually ever going to be paid off and realized. So something a little funky is going on, which cannot be explained, frankly, in a classical Marxist framework in the first place.

Which has always been my point, by the way.

I was never trying to affirm.

Do you think we're in a revolutionary situation here, though?

Do you...

I think you have more...

I think you have time. I think you have more I think you have time

I think that

I don't know

what to tell you dude

the capitalist mode of production

I don't know if I would say

that's the dominant

really that's the dominant

mode of production anymore

I think it's definitely the dominant superstructure and it's the dominant mode of production anymore. I think it's definitely the dominant

superstructure, and it's the dominant

institution, but is it the dominant

mode of production still? Probably not.

Actually, it's not. I could

straight up die on the hill that it's not.

And you can bring any, like, Marxists

you want to come and debate me on

this topic and I will wipe the fucking floor with

them. But they don't. They don't. They ignore

you. Right. I know I know they do.

Yeah, because they're scared. Because

I would make a fool of them in front of, and I would ruin their prestige in their entire

bullshit career. I started you with with dogan and you

look a little stage guy there i mean i know he's your hero and everything but i i don't

stage shy because i was i wasn't having a extremely fluent conversation with someone

who speaks English as a second language.

You don't know what you're talking about.

Anyway, look,

the problem here is that

the reason these Western Marxists

academics won't obey me is because they're all

retards and I'd expose

them for the frauds they are.

And all their stupid degrees,

all their stupid degrees and all there's

like prestige that they accumulate

as a form of capital, it would all

be exposed as like a fart

and nothing else. They'd be exposed as like a fart and nothing else

they'd be exposed for the frauds they are

that's why they don't ever ever even think about debating me Why won't Jimmy Dore have you on his show?

He has had me on.

Has he?

I haven't seen that.

Okay, but what's, what kind of argument?

What are you trying to say?

I mean, he has all kinds of crazy people on his show

why i don't even know like what what what are you even getting at here like it was i don't

understand what you're trying to say i'm just saying like you you seem you you seem ignored to me

like based on yeah i'm okay because

because i'm not in your generation

first of all

i don't know the same degree

i don't i'm not looking

what year were you born

what year 90s

yeah

yeah

so what are you okay you're 89 you're 89 you're 90s? Yeah? Yeah.

So, 89.

Okay, you're 89.

You're significantly older.

You're almost a decade older than me.

I mean, you're playing the age game on people.

Like, like you guys...

No, I'm just trying to say that, like,

the shit you fuck with is not necessarily the same shit I fuck with.

There are tons of kids who are following me,

who are talking to me, who are messaging me,

who are like, I was in that

ACP, it's like a frat.

It's like a,

I felt like I couldn't

I couldn't

express my, uh,

express my, uh, expensive dissenting opinion.

Who said that? I mean, I'm telling opinion. Who said that?

Can you name who said that?

I'm not going to name.

I'll name them.

It's, it's Bree, Daniel Gutierrez, Gannon, or Shuvu?

I mean, I don't know all the names. And they're all like,

they're all like part of the same

like retarded cult led by

Professor Shaw.

I mean, don't you think this is,

this is there're part of some

like retarded

Fed cult led by

Shaw

We all

We all agree that

Democrats,

the Republicans

are

They're

They're

They don't care about you guys

Just fuck off And leave us alone.

That's literally it.

But you can't even get on board with, you know, there's guys who are winning in

York.

There's a guy who's winning in Minnesota.

Oh, right, Mum, Dutty.

I'm going to fix all your problems because I'm smiling. I'm gonna fix all your problems

because I'm smiling.

I'm a good guy.

You think I buy into that shit?

I mean,

you buy into that bullshit.

You buy into that?

You're waiting for this breakdown

that you think is coming.

No,

I'm not waiting for a fucking thing.

And you think you guys are going to be able to catch everybody.

You know what I'm doing?

You ever heard the song playing Jane?

No.

If you want to know what I'm doing,

we ride with the mob.

Hum do Allah.

That's what we're doing.

We're not waiting for shit.

Yeah.

Did the Bolsheviks run candidates in elections?

Are you listening to the stream?

I'm not waiting for shit, bro.

We're mobbing out here.

All right?

We're mobbing out here.

You understand?

Out here, you know, we're getting in with the

the convoys, the trucks.

We got horses and shit.

We're driving across the

country. All right.

They're mobbing it up everywhere we

fucking go

What the fuck am I waiting

For bro?

I'm not waiting for a fucking thing

You understand

We are the horde

We're here

I'm telling you

You got

You're not gonna get any military

Guys

You gotta show some respect

Maybe you got a show some respect. Maybe

you got a couple in there. You don't

get to disrespect me.

You don't get to disrespect me and not get a response. I don't know what to tell

you.

Say, don't

get fucking out. You're nail it.

Don't do that.

It's like, you know,

they're young...

They act like tough guys.

They didn't even have a screwdriver

between the fuck six of them.

Bro, I don't know where you came from.

You guys are getting ahead of yourself.

Okay.

We literally just did our party census, and we are, I think, 50% blue collar.

Okay, well, I'm telling you that there are some chapters

that...

Okay, yeah, there's some members

that are students

studying to do medicine.

No, all those guys didn't have

a fucking set of tools,

well,

I mean,

I,

and it was was you know what

what chapter what chapter

you literally left

the party like

Colorado in the mountains

okay so in the mountain so

I live in the mountains so after two

I came down I brought my tools

we built a homeless lady's ramp, which

was not a homeless lady. So I'll tell you what this guy's talking about. I'll tell you why

Spartacus left the party after two months being in it after July. So he was in Colorado

with like two other guys and they were going to

do something.

Of the three people that were there,

the two of them didn't bring their tools

and only he did. So he claims our entire

party doesn't know anything in his bullshit

because the other That was just one red

flags yeah that was that but that's the only

example you have the other red flag

is that there's 12 million workers

that are service workers

that you're calling on production

the other red flag

is there's 12 million workers.

Wow.

And then another red flag is,

oh,

you got to pay $15 a month

for what?

I don't see my money

going to something

that I want to pay 50.

I might pay five. Then don't. I'm not going to ha that I want to pay 50. I might pay five.

Then don't. I'm not going to haggle with you,

bro. This is a fucking...

This is not a fruit

This isn't a fucking Bangladeshi

fruit stand.

This is not a Bangladeshi.

Someone making AI image

of this guy

like trying to

haggle tools

at a fucking

Bangladeshi

fruit stand or some shit

like what are you

talking about

trying to haggle the price?

I might pay five

maybe seven.

Let's sell six and a half maybe six like bro what are you talking well you guys are over charging do you smoke do you drink beer i guarantee you're going to drop the price

do you drink beer you're going to drop that price you drink beer you're going to drop that price you drink beer? I guarantee you're going to drop the price.

Do you drink beer?

You're going to drop that price.

Do you drink beer?

Yeah, every once in a while, sure.

How much beer do you drink in a month monetarily?

I don't really drink that often I'm

You smoke cigarettes

Not fuck no

So you just live in the woods

You don't spend any money at all

Oh I don't live in the woods

I live

In a mountain town.

Okay.

15.

If you truly came to us and said,

I cannot afford 15 a month,

we would obviously,

we already do that.

If you straight up cannot afford it

because of your situation, and you can show that to us. It's not that straight up cannot afford it because of your situation,

and you can show that to us. It's not that I can't afford it. It's that

I don't think other people would be willing to pay that. They're going to see that.

And they're going to be like, you know, the way I see it is if you're a recruit and you're

joining and you can't spend

15 a month, you're probably not that

dedicated to the party, to the point

where you're willing to, because like, in terms of what

our cadre have spent,

in terms of their labor, resources,

and, like, energy,

it's a lot more than 15

a month okay they just don't

send direct money

you know they don't send their money

but like

they all the chapter activity that it's self-funded

they're all coming out of their own pocket and they're all

doing that shit their own energy their own labor and they're all doing that shit, their own energy,

their own labor. And it's like,

it's a lot more, okay? I got nothing

bad to say about your guys either.

All the, all the guys that I'm

at Colorado are, if you're a

recruit and you're starting out

and you're like, no, I won't, I won't, I refuse to. It's not that you can to say you're a recruit and you're starting out and you're like, no, I won't.

I refuse to.

It's not that you can to say you refuse to.

It's like, well, you're probably not even that dedicated to this shit in the first place.

But because it's like what is motivating me?

There's these demotivating factors.

I look at these guys, this guy online,

you're one of your leaders in Colorado

and then I show up and he's got no tools.

So I'm just looking there and I'm like,

this is a guy who thinks he's better than people.

But in reality, he ain't much better than them.

So, you know, to me, it's a little bit of, you're making yourselves out to be something more than you are.

And for me, it was, it just wasn't.

If you're such a great judge and all this stuff, then why don't you mobilize all the people in your mountain town and you form

you form something bigger than whatever's going on in

Colorado. I'm sure you can do it. We just have

what we have. We have what we have. You don't like

the people in Colorado.

You recruit more people that you like.

It's like we have what we have.

All we have is what we have.

They just do what you say.

I'm also being told you never even showed up.

I'm not there.

I was two, three hours away.

So you never showed up?

You claimed he

showed up and he didn't have tools.

Oh, you didn't even show up to the have tools bro you didn't even show up

to the Colorado event

you didn't even show up to that shit bro

what the hell are you talking about

what the hell

I mean

that's the thing when I

when I told these guys

they made up all kinds of shit.

Bro, you didn't even show.

I had all these issues.

You didn't even show up, though.

You're like, you're such a great judge of the party.

You need to show up.

First of all, there was multiples and they cancel one of them

bro you weren't there

that's all that matters bro you weren't there

you couldn't even show up

hey listen i don't know what to tell you dude

you're just

you're like best friends with Danny Shaw.

That's where all this comes from.

He's like your dad.

He's your mentor.

I mean, you guys don't have tools.

Bro, your literal, your literal master is a heroin addict, bro And you don't have your literal your literal master

is a heroin addict

bro.

I don't know

what to tell you.

I'm just telling

me no

soldiers are

going to want to join.

But they already

have. No, no. The Michigan chapter has like two are going to want to join. But they already have...

No, no, no.

The Michigan chapter has like two soldiers in it already

that I can name.

I'm not going to name on stream, but I met both of them.

Just the ones that I met.

They're in the Detroit area.

Yeah. just the ones that I met they're in the Detroit area we already got we already got veterans and soldiers

there's 70,000 special forces

out there

I think you can grow a party

lift your heads off

you can grow a party You can grow a party

No

To 70,000

What I'm telling you is that

You've got a pay wall

You've

I mean now it sounds like you got wires

I want you to test it

If another those guys

Tools Bro go go Go test it If another those guys tools

Bro go

Test it in practice

Whatever kind of

party you think

is going to work

Go fucking try it

yourself

All right

You see if it works

Go see if it works

We do it We do it and we Go see if it works. We're doing what we can.

Go do it and try it yourself.

See what you can do.

Good luck.

It's like you're sitting and you're talking shit.

You don't do nothing yourself.

It's like such bullshit it's not true

it's like you have no experience

you have no experience

you have no knowledge or experience

of what it actually fucking takes

or what is possible

when it comes to building a party

and if you want to contradict me

by all means

go fucking try.

It's all hype.

Go try.

And you go create, okay, then

Dictorianism.

All right.

It's, bro, go try to make your own shit, then.

Literally go try to make your own shit.

Go try to make your own shit.

Go try to make your own shit. Go try to make your own shit, bro.

I don't know what to tell you. Go try to make your own shit.

See how easy it is.

I'm telling you, you're making it harder on yourselves.

All right, but we're optimistic and we're hopeful for the future and we're vibing it out and everything is chill on our end.

So thank you for your concern, but we're having a great time.

We're riding horses and shit.

We're having a great time.

We're running it up.

It's never been better.

You gotta take criticisms.

But we ain't, it's like, we're chill, bro.

We got our shit together. We know what we're doing.

I've heard plenty of people come on and people who are in your party who are wondering why you're gallivaning all over the place.

And the guy wants a food truck because they want to set up a...

Oh, God, the fuck. Are you the food truck guy? Who's the food truck because they want to set up a oh god the fuck are you the food truck guy who's

the food truck no no the Detroit but I heard about the Detroit Godre the Detroit

the Detroit Codry told me there's a food truck guy Chris Croy that's that guy yeah the food that was him

yeah the guy who came that was the that was him. Yeah, the guy who came.

That was the guy who came in my space, yeah.

The guy who wanted to set up a food truck.

Then do it.

You didn't hear him out. No, he's in your party.

And you bitched him out.

No, he's not.

That's all you do.

You bitch people out. Bro, he's not. That's all you do. You bitch people out.

Bro, he had the most stupid idea in the world.

A food truck?

I'm not, I'm not, I'm not buying a food.

You think I can afford a food truck, bro?

I'm not buying a food truck, bro? I'm not buying a food truck. He's like, oh, what I said, he said was, uh, instead of traveling to Russia you know

you should just buy a food truck

that's what he said

who's going to work

by the food truck

by the way

sounded like he had it all

it sounded like he had a great idea

so he was going to work full time in that truck

who's going to pay him

it sounded like it was going to be one of your party

enterprises and I mean you shit all over it

so I mean I shit all over it so I mean

I get it I get it

service workers are productive

it's retarded service workers are productive

to ACP I get it but

but

picking up trash I gave you I got an idea why do you

I start an enterprise of foot massages?

I got to go to bed.

I'll be back up Thursday.

This is entertaining.

I got to go to bed.

I got to go.

You should do the foot massage enterprise.

It's a service, right?

Service is the way to go.

Hey.

All right.

It allows other workers to be more productive.

Yeah, the foot massages.

Just like lifting up a pencil.

All right.

Yeah.

I mean, look, guys, it is what it is.

Like shit.

Like shit.

Um,

uh,

what was I going to say

what was i going to say

these people they never have an argument

and they type it out and it sounds like especially

what a lot of people like to do they quote

Marx on theories of surplus value assuming that's Marx's own view like the court of passage from Marx where he's

like there's a just people don't make a distinction between productive labor from the perspective of the capitalist

and productive labor in general right and they think marks is affirming the view of the

capitalist perspective when marks thinks the capitalist perspective is obviously one-sided,

and he thinks that a comprehensive understanding of productive labor

has to include an acknowledgement or a comprehension or understanding of the fact

that the capitalist mode of production

is inherently contradictory

and is giving rise to a new mode of production,

which capitalists can't comprehend.

So from their perspective,

anything that's yielding them a profit is productive.

But is that true in general?

No.

Is that true?

Like, in material fact that that's actually productive labor, no.

Because the real understanding or definition of productive labor has to include how the valorization process of capital

accumulation is inherently contradictory, right? It's like so simple. It's like straight up

simple. And like like straight up simple.

And like I get autistic about this argument, not because I have a problem with service workers, but because I think it's important that people correctly understand what Marx

was trying to say so that this definition doesn't get abused and misused in the ways that

Breadtube has abused and misused it, right?

Breadtube was trying to say that like anything that gets employed and you don't control

the workplace.

It means that's what Marx was describing as exploitation.

It was a total distortion of Marxism.

And it's petty bourgeois nonsense, you know?

And I, yeah, I'm autistic about Marxism in a way.

That doesn't mean practically I have an issue.

Like, go ahead and go fucking

organize the Starbucks baristas if you want like I don't give a fuck I have no issue

with it but I personally think that the strategy we're employing is more

important and

that we're acting accordingly.

We're not, it's not like we're blocking people

from going to baristas

or whatever, like go do it and see if it works.

Maybe you'll prove us wrong.

You think I, you think I would be upset if I was proven wrong?

Like, think about this?

Like, you think I would be upset if they actually, like,

created a workers movement with, like, baristas at the vanguard,

and it actually worked, and it was effective,

and it was actually, like, challenging the system and shit? I'd be was effective and it was actually like

challenging the system and shit, I'd be so happy

that I was wrong and that

you know, it would be a

revolutionary strategy that works

and I would humbly

say that, you know,

this is the shit that worked and I'm wrong. But, you know, this is the shit that worked, and I'm wrong.

But, you know, look, decades and decades, these people have fucking done nothing.

And I'm not going to just be about here to surrender to them.

Just because they're being loud and fucking calling us names and shit.

Thank you, Jennifer.

And yeah, we got baristas in ACP, so, you know,

that might come as a surprise to people.

We got baristas in ACP. A lot of people think that we have this thing

where we're like, we don't like

people that have blue hair or septum piercings

or some shit. And the reality is we don't

give a fuck. Like, I...

And it's especially

true, like, women that have septim piercings and, like, uh, hair dye and shit.

Like, yo, some of them be fine as hell, straight up.

I don't have an issue with them at all.

Like, when did anyone say I got an issue with women like that?

Oso's, what's going on?

I've never said I have an issue with women who present themselves that way.

And I've had a lot of friends, and I've been friends with a lot of women who were like that in my life.

And, you know, I'm just saying

it's like I got no issue with them

but they try to make it seem like

we hate them we hate goth women

and all this shit it's like I don't

what are you talking about

um

I don't know where that comes from

all I've ever tried Um, I don't know where that comes from.

Uh, all I've ever tried to, I don't believe women should have to be like wearing fucking milkmaid dresses and shit.

I've never said that. When have I ever said that?

That's like saying, that's like saying dudes can't be wearing, you know, they can't be wearing what I'm wearing here.

It's like saying I can't wear a beater or some shit.

You must be happy. You have me confused

for some other shit that has nothing to do with me.

You have me confused with like Caleb

Mopin or some shit. Like that's not me.

All right?

I've never been like that in my fucking life, actually.

Like, observe my entire streaming career.

Observe all the people I've been streamed with my whole career and shit.

That's never been me, all right?

I've never been the one who's like uptight about shit like that.

I don't give a fuck.

Um... they think that yeah they think they they they have it mixed up because we were against the like uptight woke scolds that were like making extremely if you're white

and you're just like going to

a party meeting and people are just

like oh you're enjoying yourself

well you're white you're fucking

garbage you piece of shit

like

you're straight up driving people away from our cause.

You're straight up making super uncomfortable awkward environments.

No one wants to fucking be in because they're just not enjoyable and they're just

not shit anyone wants to fuck with.

And you're just like making it awkward

and like super

painful to be in

like yeah someone cracks a joke

and then someone gets fucking mad

it's like

what is worse than that

cracking a joke

and then getting fucking mad at it.

I promise you there would be no culture war in the USA

if leftists just stopped fucking policing jokes.

Just let people fucking laugh at whatever they want to

and nobody will have a fucking issue with your fucking principles.

Straight up.

Nobody even has an issue.

Nobody has ever had an issue with like left progressive politics in the USA.

The line that nobody could forgive was how they fucking started making it impossible to laugh

and ruining fucking jokes.

That was the issue for everyone I know.

And I've ever seen.

Um... also the vibe shift has changed guys like the goth girls are kind of based and the libtard women are usually the people like

they're usually more like clean cut now

they're like uh berry weiss they wear like glasses

and they wear pantsuits

it's the pantsuit like like Barry Weiss type of females that are like the liberals. It's not like the Goths who have like blue hair and shit. They're kind of like joining us now. Those people are like anti-Zionist and they like are getting canceled.

Even that retarded woman on TikTok that we, that's, I can't fucking stand her, but like,

um, she was like defending North Korea, you know, she's like a goth and has blue hair and shit.

That was her. She was defending North Koreaa all the libtards were like canceling her over it um she's like still a liptard because she's fucking crazy and she attacks us because she wants to get the heat off of her.

But what I'm trying to say is that this is a vibe shift that's happened. It's a political realignment. All that CPI shit has nothing to do with us.

Fucking whoever has that baggage, leave it behind. We're not trying to carry that into the

future.

Straight up.

Shitlibs are like Barry Weiss.

They're like, who's that?

I don't even know how to name these people.

But, uh... Yeah.

Ursula von der Leyen, exactly, exactly.

Exactly.

Exactly.

Bridget McCron.

Exactly. That type of shit is like

on a different wavelength.

We accept people from all sorts of subcultures um including people that are traditional they're also welcome of course they are we love all type of people.

Shit.

There's traditional women in the party.

There's people that are not.

I mean, everyone's welcome.

You just have to, like, be able to fucking... Be honestly be dedicated be chill be chill have discipline you know that's all we ask

we accept metalheads yes we do

but when I'm

the thing is when I'm there

y'all are not getting the JBL speaker

like it's simple.

You can listen to whatever you want.

When I come and visit your chapter, you're not playing that bullshit.

You don't get the, you don't get the Bluetooth.

That's it.

That's the only fucking persecution that we institute.

If you all play that stupid cross-punk and all that stupid shit, I don't want to hear it.

You know?

Y'all are not making the statement you want to make.

Some of y'all trying to make statements.

Let me get the ox.

I'm going to make a statement.

Like, mm.

You're not going to hold me captive to that.

I don't want to hear it.

You know.

Ban the Sonic song.

The Sonic song go hard, but I wouldn't play that at the social setting.

They call me Sonic, but I am guns in a...

That's more like a car song.

That's the song I'll play in the car.

They call me...

If the whole gang is in a car, I'd be playing that song.

They call me Sonic.

Because I am dancing around.

I keep on jumping around.

Blue has...

That's not a song I play when I'm trying to chill and kick it back.

Do you like country music?

You know, the whole point of music is supposed to be ambient.

You're not supposed to have to think about it.

Because that Orvo's got it right.

Like, I don't want to think about this shit.

I don't want to pay it, no mind.

It should be ambient.

All right, can I be on some real shit?

One of the things we did in California is we went to a karaoke place

and I sang...

I sang the...

Thank you, USA! You are my... I sang the thank you USA.

And then I made my own version, but it was,

Thank you, Enverhoja, you are my best friend.

Khrushchev is a fat.

I actually added

my own lyrics

it was crazy

that shit went so hard

um

and we

I also did

Mongolian throat singing

and um

yeah but then it got boring and um yeah

but then it got boring because like people actually started to sing for like the full three

minutes of every song so you just be sitting there and people were like

just call me angel

and you're just sitting there and it's like, fuck, when is this

going to end?

I get it now.

Like, the joke is over.

Um, yeah.

Anyway. anyway anyway y'all i think i'll see you tomorrow

but if not tomorrow than wednesday

i hate the 500 miles song.

You guys know I hate that song.

Anyway guys, I'll see y'all. This was a long stream.

It was, wow, 3 hours.

Good shit.

Good shit, honestly. Good shit.

I wish you could sing

up my die bar

yo showgunner

where

what state

are you in

what state

are you in

North Dakota

fuck yeah

I don't know

about that I don't know about that

I don't know about that

North Dakota

It's quite a ways away

One day I'm gonna be doing a tour

Of every chapter

It's just we gotta make it efficient

Um

You know the one I want to visit NX We got to make it efficient.

You know, the one I want to visit next is Florida.

I want to go to Florida next.

Florida is the one I have next on my sites.

It's a big, it's a great chapter.

I would like to visit

Florida as soon as I can

but I'll

yeah.

Appreciate that, Harold. Appreciate that. yeah appreciate that

Harold

appreciate that

that

Harold's domain

yeah

of course

definitely definitely within the next two months

I'll visit Florida for sure

but I'll give you guys proper notice

at least a month notice I'll give you guys

and yeah

with like strategy I'll give you guys. And yeah.

We'll like strategize to make it the most efficient and shit.

And then like I also want to strategize to also stream it as well to like stream a lot of it. Because didn't strategize enough to stream california and

texas unfortunately and i should have but i just didn't have time anyway y'all i will see you um

i'll see you tomorrow or if if not tomorrow uh wednesday but i'll see you tomorrow or if not tomorrow, Wednesday.

But I'll see y'all.

Good stream, good shit.

I hope you like the debate.

Bye-bye.