DESTINY HEIGHT TRUTH (I'M TALLER) [2022-01-17]

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what if we watch the dylan burns versus has debate

right now

yeah i have to upload this shit now

he already uploaded his i have to upload mine right now

but which one do i fucking upload

which one do i actually fuck and upload

so this here

there's like a bunch of them you know

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this is his p ov

oh this is full thing isn't it

was it only twenty two minutes

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this is what is the shit they gave me

this is a really weird

bd they gave me they gave me like a really weird one

okay here it is this one continuity ok

so we're going to watch it together for now

and then on

we're going to watch it

actually

and i'll know which one to do

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i just short like this

we'll just react to it together and i'll upload it

tonight

it' is not a discussion

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this was not a discussion

biggest thing we have go with us here is one of our participants does have a fight this afternay so we will have a hard time

of what t you want baast

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we're go know i would have it listens to thirty

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yeat is there printer here by the way

for the like the hoding holls

was in twenty two minutes like it was broken up

the parts

well internet are you ready are you ready to go otherwise or yeah yeah i just i think i'm sure at the airports they'll take care of me

ok ok you can get that morning testing of your word later pack toy checked out or whatever yeah yeah

and so will start with opening statements

possibli thes a back and forth theill do some questions

she's w you was second job bortening here for the

as with all base here just keep a respectful attack the arguments as frd as you want to

no personal facts you going questions i got all the audience pripers

and yourself less you ask for specific moeration at that point but you guys are going to see the entire con everything

i mean not everything because we're going to skip some parts for twich but

you'll see

everything out have

between you two half is taiwan

should be interesting

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one hour of sleep

ad just debated destiny

and i got a flight to catch and i just do not really want to be

and my patience is thinn

just like my hair and

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the history of taiwan is a history of struggle whether it be the indigenous people's movements against the ching dynasty which they struggle dearly

i believe one of the phrases was

every three years an insurrection every five years an uprising

all the way to modern ages as they tried to make the way that the way they filmed it was that they only they didn't like take turns filming p ovs

they are either only film me or only filmed dylan if you want to get both you have to edit it

now i don't have time to do that

full work against and

let me actually see the one did he do it on his channel

three ss

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tll you're not interrupting me okay i'm talking

how the fuck did he get that one

how did you get that one

whether you like it or not so the

where did he get that one i have to ask

so we can get we can see both of us but you can't even see him

uh i'm going to have to ask them

how to do that

it's so weird

invading force which is consistently

tried to be aggressive against the new state of a democratic republic that channel was a illicit twitch channel

when he was filming that from the back this was not the official filming

of china

if the question is

is taiwan a part of china the answer is yes

it is part of the republic of china

taiwan

when we talk about the justification from historical perspective

you could look at

the resistance movement against

japanese

oh he didn't use the illegal livestream i looked at it

now

finish

done women pushp of course

they can what the fly fuck why the fuck wouldn't they

and chinese imperialism

and it's not from the audience guy

what you can call taiwan what you can call tie the government taipei or even the republic of formsa if we're talking about the japanese

it has a history of democracy if you look at the republican the republican for most of the declaration that they put out

it was very pot discy so weird he's got like all these managers that do all this she's like a kid

you know he was in high school like two years ago he's a kid

he's being propped up they trying to make him a thing

i don't believe he' is a thing i don't wan agree he is a thing

they try to make him a thing and prop him up and i don't buy it

you know me

i don't got managers i don't got coaches i'm a self made man i'm probably one of the only self made men on this fucking

olitical platform

i don't got coaches i don't got managers i don't got optics people i'm just a random dude who hits the fucking live button

understand

and every one's like hais your lawcow haw's your laucow

any any person who just hits the live button and beas themselves

it's going to end up

being alow cow

ok

unless you have managers and you have like

produce you have all these people agents and shit

you're going to you're going to have like chaotic op

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avision and nature

it was we are establishing a republic

in here

to defend against the japanese invaders that was eight hundred ninety five

and when we talk about the modern history of taiwan

it is a struggle to not only develop the identity which is a new one one that is taiwanese in nature

when the vast majority of the population now identify as taiwanese they have their own language they have their own currency they have their own judicial system they have their own military they have their own laws they have

really their own nation

but it's not a nation in the eyes of some

why because they're plain pretend

theyre plain pretend if i was to take out this phone in my pocket and say this is not a phone

now it functions in every way as a phone

i can turn it on i can text i can call i can do all these things but it's not a phone

i am not being honest with you

i'm lying for any number of reasons

in this case people are lying because they don't want to piss off the people's republic of china

the mainland government

now let's talk i actually think i did better

in both the debates

because of the sleep deprivation

you know because i'm an overthinker i overthink things by nature

i was watching back the destiny debate

and it's just like with this debate

i don't know if i would have responded to this as well as i did

if i had full sleep

when i full sleep i overthink shit a lot

but when i have one hour of sleep i just

for some reason i just know what to say you know

it about the conclusions of someone was to say you know what i disregard the historical basis

for taiwan's independent struggle in the indigenous community or its own language that is so beautiful

how things this turn out to work well you know

almost like there's a reason i couldn't sleep

it's like my body's telling me

trust me do this is good for you you know

identity that's developed or the fact that they want their own democracy i disregard the historical bass let's talk about the reality

of disregarding that historical basis and saying that the taiwanese

cannot have their own state and this is a merely an internal affair

taiwan is a nation of twenty five million people

it is one of the most dense nations on earth seventeen when it comes to density if you listen to the taipei times it's actually first

if you exclude mountainous reasons

syria was twenty million and it ranked sixty seven on the density scale

if we were to drop our support for taiwan

the likelihood of war would skyrocket

as the leverage that taiwan has in upholding its democracy would vanish

and a war across the taiwan strait would be an absolute disaster

not only would a refuge you could just see

you couln just look at my face

you just know i fuck and hate this guy i hate having to sit and listen to this fuck

i just time

shut up

fugk up

you know

taiwan taiwan the funck of this guy give a shit about taiwan so much you know

just hearing him piss me off it's like shut the fuck up dude

it's your fuckin

i can't call them names

but

let's just say like hypothetically it's like it's like the's just a swamp monster from wherever

is trying to get in that side of the world's business like

who the fuck are you dude shut the fuck up about taiwan

you know

i have access to taiwan taiwan is mine i have access to it it is mine i am going to it's about me i am the manager of taiwan i am the leader of taiwan everyone will listen to what i say china will listen to me

n know i mean

rehugee crisers spiral out of control worse than what we saw in syria

but america would actually be one of the prime recips

i think

unconsciously i'm getting triggered when i'm hearing about serrius

when this guy

this guy

is trying to talk about my homeland and yes i believe in greater syria so that is my homeland i'm a syrian

lebanon's a fake country

syria is my fucking homeland

hearing this fight the idea that this person can speak upon my homeland

the love on

the greater syria

and yes lebanon is a fake country it's called greater syria

shut the fok up

you know what i mean

sy but he's talking about s go come to syria come to lebanon come to the lev on

you know what i mean

he's going to hit doan the big man in syria

yllan's going to try to be the big man in syria

heh

i'm just think of like i'm with my grandparents and with my extended family and shit

and this dylan burns dou is coming through trying to tell us what to do

yeah you you know what i mean it's like one of those things it's like i'm with my people

not even my family just i'm with my people and a dude who looks like dylan burns walks in with his notebook and his

his his binder

and he's going to order us around and decide

what's going to happen for us right

so fucking and furiating it's so just thinking about that pisses music not that he would succeed of course he would not succeed i

i can't even say what would happen to i

but

the idea of it is infuriating the idea that he would have the audacity to try that

is a is infuriate

but the fuck happened

ons if there's no problem

ons if you can still watch the stream right now

okay

this weird federal account

who is this

traversey media this is one of those things you go down the rabbit hole on the internet

and you find out they're connected to fuck and jeffrey epstein

and weird

cia shit

what the fuck is this

what is this

o their base

well they the they commented on the video apparently

they came

oh youe talking shit about me he's like dyl and i want you to knock him around i bet you anything he can't fight

reipient of refugees

because yeah

you can literally see the comon

the taiwanese community has deep ties the californ

people are saying the same shit about me

that they say about jake paul i cat what happens birl

you know i mean

look i get it people have this idea on the internet

if you're an ashole and you talk a lot of shit

the reality is you can't fight

actually

i can be an asshole who talks a lot of shit

and can also in a legal sanction setting

eat the fark

and that pisses them off so much

that's why they want jake paol to lose all the time

because

you're not supposed to be able to hit all three of those you know

coornia and many of them would be filling persecution political persecution that is

from the government coming in that is something we would have to feel the full effects of thank you so much we need a five dollars

great shall bat the debates

thank you patriot thank you so much man

the semiconductor industry which the world relies on when one company within taiwan the t m s c produces fifty percent of the foundries necessary for semiconductor production that would take a hit

international trade would take a hit our trade one hour of sleep and my head is taking notes i'm like ok

is this this point i'm going to destroy every single one

with that nation would take away america's reputation would take a hait

not to even talk about the civil liberties that the taiwanese have fought against

see how i'm taking notes

of say chen kai shek for example to develop

that's another thing

many people will talk about the white yeah my hair looks like she in this

yah

i'm wondering why i should just go bald or shavee it down

the time is coming soon i think that i'm going to start

's gone super short

i don't know how long i can keep

to be fair this was bad hair

so that's that this was also bed here

this was bed hair so i didn't get to shower and

yeah ll did a number on my hair and u com onhone

maan i got covied

had a lot of stress whatever

we'll see

terror or chenkai shek's government the brutality of it

and we use that as a justification to dist de legitimize

the taiwanese people and their struggle for independence

well that's interesting since the people that sh sheck purged first

where the independence advocates

chenkai shek wanted to recquer the mainland and so he purged the indigenous

people's advocates for independent taiwan

those people fought free

the t

he appears to have a democratic taiwan with his own system of government

so i'm not going to ramble anymore i have a lot of points i want to go into and a lot of questions for has about the conclusions that would come from

his worldview here

but i'll just stop

oh my god

rop it there

guys on know it's hilarious

how does a guy like me end up next to that guy

so i'm not supposed to even be there

m

i'm just this random dude who like

spent two years studying occult mysticism and fucking

sacred geopolitican whatever like

why i'm not even supposed to be here you know you know how fucking aes sootiric this man is right here

ww fringe and esotiric this man's interests

and specialties are

and i'm literally just i'm larping as a political twichstreamer

fo

no matter how funny you guys find it

it will never be as funny to you

as it will be for the other infrared collected members

i'm going out debating destiny and dili buren's boss

this is high level trolling b you know the only people who are like infrared

is lie boch you know what lie boch is

the n s k art collective liebox

they're doing some similar shits us but we're better at it than them

because they're still very ovant gardenship in

you know

a high class

we actually do get down and dirty like you know what i mean

i'm literally a fucking

a mystic larp i'm not fucking a cult

esoteric

fringe mystic larping as a fucky political twitchtreamer

yet i know they played in north korea i know who they are i know everything about them

i may even know them who knows

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so there's three points i want to address

uh a midstll of that

firstly let me preface this by saying there is absolutely no historical basis

for the region of taiwan

it's called lie i'll play their music

i'll play their music

lie ba he's look it up on spott of

this is actually a bass song this was a song made for julian assange was made for julian assange

we arrive we crow

we walk and we stand fll we never fall as wecuss theky as far as the w we walk and we do not fall we sleep we dream w the timing beten

ch we see this heary from music video for this is actually pretty cool it's like very eastern block

ya know t me s

it's actually an interesting video

a youth camp

from communist times

want to be a separate country from china

the history of the relationship between the han chinese and the indigenous people of taiwan

is a rather interesting one

the only problem is that taiwan is currently around ninety eight to ninety nine percent on chinese

so there's absolutely no basis in the historically indigenous people of taiwan

for the indigenous for sorry for an independence movement

as a matter of fact some of the most renowned indigenous politicians within chin taiwan

are the most ardent advocates for unification and anti independence

so it's rather interesting that the indigenous people of taiwan by and large are against independence

whereas some han liberal elites within taiwan pro american

are the most in favor of independence so this was the hotel hall and i lied about the location i said on stream that it's across the street

becuse i don't want to docs where i was

staying and sleeping is just something i do but yeah this was all in one hotel we were all in the same hotel

and the conference halls were all in the same place to

talk of the indigenous struggle against the ching or the han chinese is a complete nonsensical non factor in the question of whether taiwan is a country or not

because indigenous people do not factor whatsoever in the question of whether taiwan is an independent country now second of all in the history i will concede

that politics has often i did forget to bring up an important thing about

the meing loyalists who fled to taiwan which cemented the actual foundation of the state of tai

sorry of taiwan as a territory

it was always an outpost

four light

greater china

bike

even when the ming loyalists fled after the ching

they use set it up as a base of operations for the southern song theness i sorry this the song naty i don't i don't

is it the meaning or the song i don't remember

but

it's like it's never been a place where it's like owas going to have taiwan no it's always been like a base

sometimes played a role in defining nations

yet tee jump was circle jerking with dylan and tee jump said some passive aggressive shit at the end he was like

oh

so he wanted to fight you until he could learn you could fight

and they were all like chuckling and then i went oup to him

and i said

do you fucking think a fight is the same as a boxing match

don't act like he wanted to fight you like a street fight and then when he found out he pussied up

he accepted a boxing match

under the condition of one month of training

then when he found out you had one year of experience

he had to reconsider

there's nothing wrong with that is that is that embarrassing t jump you know i saw that t jump guy in person

m

i disrespected t jump in our debates

and yet the guy gruveled at my feet

more or less when i met him in person he just groveled before me

hey has somem tea jum

and the guy debated

i was so disrespectful to him

but in person he grovelld before me

and he didn't say shit

low t jum i don't i would never say that

but

well i would say because he's low he's low it has nothing to do with

he's a lw

he's low enough

debate skills

right

mistaatees

france was a historically

united uh

region based on the kingdom of france and the common shared language customs etcetera

but it did not become a nation state until it was united by the republican ideals of the french revolution

so i will concede

that politics often plays a part of politics and religion in the formation of nations

the only problem

is that china is not just a nation it is not a nation state it is a five thousand year long civilization

that has endured many different types of political systems

and political forms while nonetheless maintaining being the one country of china the one civilization of china

a june war the middle kingdom

of the world is how it conceived itself

so this five thousand year long a civilization is not producible to a certain political project or a political ideal

which is actually something

the republic sorry the nationalists like chang shek were able to respect and acknowledge

throughout the entirety

of the republic of china's struggle against the people's republic a civil war that technically did not end

both chany g i should happen to the rest of the infrared collective

nothing happens to them if you pink them on the discord they'll respond to you

some people are doing school stuff

evans in africa

if you remember him

um others are busy preoccupied with work and they're working on scripts and videos and shit you know

i think most

of the infrared people are in school

right now

you lo busy have lives you know

you ask where are they

because i give you attention every single day because i'm live almost every single day i have something going on every single day

but

the truth is if i wasn't streaming

we would be just as quiet we would you would get like a new video once every month or two months

and you wouldn't hear from any of us you hear from me a lot

as i stcream every day

and malsetong recognize it

that there is one china

they were merely disagreeing over who should rule that one china

and the independence movement of taiwan has never next video i think is is is being completed it's almost done i think

i think they're at the stage of

of adding content

do it

they're at the stage of adding content

so the next one is going to be a

it's going to be about the chinese social credit system

ve been popular it's always been a marginal phenomenon the phenomenon we can infer was definitevely propped up

by the americans

chankai shek himself had tod but heeads with the americans and

engage in the

minor diplomatic conflicts with the americans who are pushing independence

on the founding mission of the cumantang

sorry if i mispronounce it the kmt

was one china the notion that taiwan would become an independent effaces

the very foundation of taiwan as a so called separate country from the people's republic the founding mission of the uman thing was based on the ideals of sun yad sen

for the unification and reju rejuvenation of the china five thousand year long chinese civilization on the basis

of um

the ideals of the modern world

now finally the notion that a chinese invasion of taiwan

a chinese invasion of china in other words

would lead to a refugee crisis assumes that the people of taiwan the chinese people of taiwan are willing to fight to defend

the status quo that is now in place

every form of research and study that has been conducted among the people of taiwan

has shown

that they are not willing to take up arms they are not willing to have any bloodshed

to prevent unification with china so there's no impetus for the people of taiwan

to have do why would there be refugees when there would be no conflict to begin with

china if hypothetically this would happen would simply come in and finally i want to make one last point

the notion that taiwan's current constitution and laws in the

whatever

would be destroyed upon unification

it gravely misunderstands the current chinese system

the chinese system the president set by hong kong

is of one country two systems many different systems can exist under the sovereignty of one china

and china has expressed the people's republic with china has expressed its fullest intention to allow the people of taiwan to maintain their specific system so long as they acknowledge there is only one china

i risk my case so the first thing i want to say so there's a bunch of things that were gorong there but i'm just going to start with the indigenous communities

be

indigenous community make up two percent of the population that is true ok i for just talking about people who just primarily indigenous for not talking about people who are culturally indigenous or we're talking about interfaith marriages and to child we're just we're just going to talk about the two percent

they make up two percent of the population yet sixty percent of the nation's special elite forces

sixty percent the ma ge it extremely disproportionate amount of the nation's military the military wait wait you see how he cell phones himself by bringing his up

it's such a fuck it self

the dumbest shit i've ever heard

that defends taiwan the indigenous community which you say oh they're there many of them love the idea of chinese invasion or china coming or any of these things i would i they vastly

support

the taiwan be ineportant and be an independent nuber onem and nuer tw they over they are over represented when it tees me why i'm wasting time now because instead of running in my head like oh i have to remember this

fucket i'm just going to fuck and go ahead and just be like

you're fucking wrong dude

he's like

but the that the indigenous people in taiwan are the the armed forces that means that

yeah they may be anti communist historically

but they're campty loyalists

they're they're anti independence

comes to the military and if you talk about them being came loyalists that's true a lot of people the can't you want stop interrupting me hans okay this isn't

the internet were on persson act like a civile svit

i don't care if it's not on the internet w calm down on please

anyway

the indigenous community are over represented

you know it's funny

it keeps telling me to calm down

and yet i'm perfectly calm

and he's very nervous he's like look how he's talking he's talking you could i could literally sense his heart rate

pumpy

and i am as calm as focking

you know

i'm as

what is something that's called i'm as fucking calm as a lotus on a pond

i'm just fucking call the shit

he's like really really he's like really getting a

he's getting gassed

you know

ino the military because they're willing to defend taiwan and the system of governance a a slowly evolved on across the taiwan straty so otherwise that's not true by the way the studies you reference when it comes to o but the taiwanese people would not defend according to they would not

in the absence of an american help they're not going to fucky shit

one thousand percent

taipe times two thirds of the population of taiwan have said they'd be willing to pick up arms and defense of taiwan two thirds of the population that bullshion

that's just true it's i a sim bullsion i'm just i tep it if the type times has said two thirds of the people yeah because studies showed the opposite studies showed they're not willing

taiwan survey

that it's not worth bloodshed

they said independence is not worth war

he said they would prefer not for china to come in

but

um

i if it came down to preventing bloodshed with no american help

they would not

so how here we go

how taiwan's citizenry plan to respond to war is not

reassuring

on the one hand eleven percent will join the military

eleven percent will support the war effort

and ten percent will follow govern orders

no this a

oh no no guys guys look look how i didn't have to give any source and i was automatically right i just googled it right

mm

look

just just look at this

right

it

so

this is the best shit i've ever seen look at this

do hes on his survey

includes a question about cross straate conflict

how taiwan's citizenry plan to respond to war is not reassuring

and i just told them to google it

on the one hand

eleven percent will join the military

eleven per cent will support the war effort

ten percent will follow government orders

twenty one percent

will go about their daily lives and or do nothing

eleven percent will flee to another country

twenty four percent said they don't know

no

but in

the joke writes itself right

the joke writes itself ok the joke writes itself

taiwan a willing to take up arms the taipei times is lying well then you're lying to me right now that's just true

whle eleven percent said they would join the military if

something happen

so yes

they're not going to take a bomb

there's no way for us to independently verify this right now so anybody can google it

google it everybody at home it just google it right now

m

i literally just googled it for you

the people then google it at home two thirds look up thatsalz look upt

taiwan

bas

boxing is such a meme now i no longer take it as a serious fight between two individuals

a thank you electron i guess

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the poll he's talking about

was from literally like three weeks ago i have it right here the top eight times

and it's from december thirtieth twoenty twenty one

every other poll shows ambivalence

upon by the chinese uh

people of taiwan

but this is like

this is like the only one that indicates the contrary

so

you do the fuck in math did something suddenly changed in the last

year or a few months

or maybe there are some flaws in this pool

i'm going to call bullshit and say there's flaws in the pool

this is the one i was looking for

yeah they're not willing to risk independence if it means war

try to be the first one i can't i'm not going to be able to upload this until tomorrow

i mean and that's conservative too because

actually

let me just

i have my editor

um

i'm going to send it to him

wre wory

are the most in favor of independence so this talk of the indigenous struggle against the ching or the on chinese is a complete nonsensical non factor in the question of whether taiwan is a country or not because indigenous people do not factor whatsoever in the question of whether taiwan

historically ancient state until chankai shews us

so long to pick up arms of defense of taiwan two thirds of the population that's bullshit that's just true it's the t of a sign bullshit i'm just i tell if the taipei times has said two thirds of the people of taiwan are willing to take up arms the taipe times is lying well then you're lying to me right now that's justrue

no

well there's no way for us to independently verify this right now so anybody can google it

google it everybody hot people then google it at home two thirds look up that's sy look up to the form study typet the type a times shit is bullshit

onehund percent bullshit

this surveys have shown the polling has shown people in taiwan are not golling to risk any bloodshed in the midst of the chinese people's republic of china s is not true two thirds of the population you have one to you have one source and multiple sources but you haven't even ok source one study that

i'm the t n s s i just named it right now the t n s

source

google i honded by radio f asia and the nnd oh my god

oka well i've been so neutral

sorce you have no sort ho you brought a fuckt bit

this is the biggest debate fallacy of all fucking time

i have a source and you have no source

it's like if i literally bring a piece of shin

and slam it on the table and call it my source

and you don't have anything

is do i win

it's how fucking works if you have a source and i don't have a source

that doesn't mean the burden upons shifted to me to provide a source

you have to prove your sources fucking reliable in the first place

that's how it actually

i don't have to provide any fucket source

finder and i came empty handed good luck well that's your fault youy have come prepared a do the thing is i don't need a binder that's the thing i don't need to take communist or listen the thing is i don't need a binder i don't need to cite a one study from the taipe times to the extent of my familiarity people of taiwant to not know it's up to the audience to independently verify i can i can trust that i'll

come out on the right when it comes to that sure you will ok so when it comes to the k m t and i actually did

the k m t has lost the two elections when it comes to the idea did celerity let me finish what let you know you're not interrupting me ok i'm talking whether you like it or not so the k m t this is about a different point so this why i can calm down the k m t when it comes to the independence struggle and whether independence is popular have lost the two last two elections sion when has won the last two elections in decent amounts in the democrat

a progressive party which is the party that she's a part of is the independence party the pro independen

its party and she has stated on multiple occasions and has been reelected on the platform of taiwan does not need to declare independence for we are already independent she points to the judicial system she points to the military she points to the language she points to a separate history she points to all these things it's yeat it's literally just like nick land becoming a fucking jordan peterson figure that's how nice

my background is i'm not even lying

for justifiable reasons to show that taiwan is independent and the world is ups

you've gott to work on abody language

you got to work on your ban appeal because you're just fucking got bann

if i have one hour of sleep

my body language is going to show that i'm tired

but your criticism

is actually what

i hate the most in life

chatters who act like they're my friend

who try to give me advice or try to think they know better than me they know more than me they don't know fuck and shit

i hate them more than anyone

i hate them more than my enemies

upholding a facade that it is't an independent nation they're pretending the thing is if i go to taiwan has and i called the chinese police the mainland chinese police if i'm getting ug they're not going to show this is the most stupid fucking point i've ever heard in my life

this is literally the dumbest point i have ever heard

in weeks and that saying so

go up you know what's going to go p the taiwanese and in a region of china it would work the same exact way you're not going to call its has if i go to michigan and call the l a p d u

it

mhmm

so

that

that doesn't mean anything

that doesn't mean anything

so fugged stupid

the dumby said i ward

ok i'll talk to mr grow but

i want him to

i'm not going to go to him

ok i'm not going to go to him

all the region in southern china if you're northern china what a stupid point second a boy are you really saying that the chinese government has authority over the taiwanese government does it doesn't have authority con shuk it the fuck up to

doesn't have authority in hong kong it doesn't have authority n it doesn't wait youre tll me yet it doesn't have hes the figuer streamer you have to ask him no i don't

watch me not

agents in the hong kong don't yell at the us like the uus saens a ower your voice us so the most pathetic thing i've ever encountered in

is dylan pathetically trying to be like lower your voice has or what its

no funre you going to do about it

lower my voice

the us sends agents all over the world so youro but they do it because they're trying toe how i'm looking at

it's all in my

it's all in this face i'm giving him it's like

when he says lower your voice i'm like

what the fuck are you talking abut

is it kind of sounds like you're making it seem like you got some shit to do about

you don't tell someone low your voice in

not be able to do nothing about it

what are you or what

their direct authority china has a i want lowly absb has i mention that that they are trying to enforce the authority for example in hong kong let's talk about the two china has one country in hong the one i want to systems he thinks it so favorable even though the time when these people are horrified at the notion definitely after development

because of the falcon here

hoorse they're horrified when the media fucked spins it in the way they do

in hong kong in hong kong the recent legislation that was passed if you boo the chinese national anthem you can actually go to prison for that due to national security legislation that the chinese government has put in there thes m southa came from and i disagree with those laws and that

don't give a fuck if you disagree with them

there's nothing exceptional about china

that makes that the case

blaming the people's republic par of culture but you don't cu

actually it is part of taiwanese culture

it's just that they had a color revolution

light

what wasn't a revolution b was like a color revolution type of

change they had recently

against the k m t

backed by america in the west

which made it more liberalized

under the k mt that shitp would be illegal

one thousand percent

if i go to taiwan i say fuk taiwan fu the government under the actual k m t which is the whole basis of taiwan

being a sing

that would not be allowed

you say fok taiwan

you're saying fuck china and they're not going to tolerate that shit taiwan became couck

for the same reason japan did

it's an american colony now

and i want to preface something

iwan under the kmt was not

in american colony

it was supported by america for the cold war

but chang kaishek was his own man

however much we condemn and disagree with chanhe

he was his own man

it was not answerable to the americans

he was not answerable to the japanese

he was answerable to nobody

he was his own man he was an actual independent leader

recently

the americans have backed the semiiclor revolution in taiwan to liberalize it ak

surrender

ah they

i want sovereignty to americas

globalism

to the national anthem they want to rest me because they have a dedication to democracy unlike the mainland government that's only recently because of liberalization effort go it came at the expense of the status quo the camt but moreover there's a number of points you weaseled your way out of we want to want to pin your open dout on those points so first of all you claimed

that first you made the claim that the all wrong majority of the armed forces are made up by indigenous people that's not said that is that the special force of the special forces that's not because they're pro independence they have always been a stronghold of cakmt loyalism and fierce anti independence i don't care what anyone says at this specific point in the debate

dylan got

balking rack

i mean

at that point in the debate i want

right then in there

a sentiment

so the idea so was it's a complete nonpoint you mention the president of taiwan say that we're already a country you want to maintain the status quo then maintain the status quo but try to change your official name to the republic of taiwan and see what will happen it is the republic of china that is the current status quo she's saying we basically function already as another country that's her opinion see what happens when they try to make that formal or official

and see what the response is going to be from china if taiwan attempts to pursue secession from china china will act swiftly

in response and the u s can't do a goddamned thing about it

whether you like it or not military military planners disagree with that's besides the point we're not theak can't they can't do a fucking thing they're not going to risk a nuclear war for tyle

they're blossing

and if they try to confront china

in a non total war but a localized war

china will falk and wrack

the us

if the u s doesn't get to use its weapons of mass destruction

uh in the straight

china's gon

falking wreck of the us

so it's either going to be an apocalypse

which the s elites are not going to risk for taiwan

or it's going to be a more localized conflict that's not of a form of total war

in which case china will roll the us it will fuck and destroy

i thought the kid was a supporter of pece he's not he's a really creepy

new specimen of lefty plus neo con

the worst thing you could be

but're not talking about strategy i'm sure you're not a military general oka no matter how many soviet caps you put on

bas

from the perspective of strategy think you tenn more

does it take a genius to recognize

he i'm going to show you a mat

read you guys

now this is gona be crazy

this is going to be sane

i'm going to show you some

pretty fuck

so

so this is the mainland and this is taiwan

the usa is

re

so from the perspective of military strategy

i'm pretty sure

this big as country can just

eat this country

and

this country here can't do a fucking thing about it

i'm pretty sure it's actually as simple as that

i'm pretty sure it's literally that simple you know

i'm pretty sure it's that simple

youeno knowgh

wait we will wait a few years and we'll see what happens anyway when it comes to the idea that the indigenous community don't support an independent taiwan even though they were at the front and center of every single independent struggle in taiwanese

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stdill in preest streaming probably played py for all day wearing a fur cap

thank you wingger

listen

i got to tell you i something

i got to tell you got some

what dan says

even though they were at the fore of every

they weren't struggling for the independence of some country called taiwan

they were struggling for the independence of the indigenous population

it's so fucking stupid how people think

a peopl

and a territory are the same thing

history there at the front they were the first heard i know what this is like saying

this is like saying

the palestinians

went to war

with egypt

during the six day war

that's like trying to say

that israel's war with falking

um

the arab league

alliance or whatever

is the same as the focking on

it' is similar to like some fuckin

o

revolt in the ottoman empire some shit

in that region it's such so fucking stupid it's just such a stupid thing to

i have the fualking courage to say

aainst the hig si i wre n way n they were the serce they were the first purge by ch there is no kind where that there is no continuity me there's no continuity that's like saying

thank

that's like saying the the

the band two wars with the indigenous people of south africa

is an analogy for

the africannor war was

it's the the dutch war in south africa with buck in

the book i don't know

rhodesia you know what i means fuck and stupid it's stupid

because it's the same place it means it's the same continuity of people

and and and the history

between the historical struggles of the taiwanese indigenous population and the current taiwanese independence movement which when you overwhelmingly dominated by one what is overwhelmingly a dominated by the han chinese been led by it's because it's ninety percent of the population but we're talking about a disp wile in the military specifically the special force so wi is there aso ordinate amount in the special forces but not a disproportionate amount in the independence movement in the independent

diroportiono there isn't thist it what percentage of indigenous people s moor the inc the exact percentage but it's not it's not the exact percentage but i am be i'm guessing it's very disproportionate o i'm go to p guys very back

everyone who left is a fucking traitor everyone who left is a traitor

third tell me your percente it's not fifty percent your pent third tell me it could not be more than twenty percent

do you have any data for that

and i were willing to risk everything by saying everything yeah wow

even your soul

ok i'm do i'm already doing that by debating right now i'm sure you are ok so what was the second point you made there was a second point besides that

the second point was about the history of nation states and politics

ok well that wasn't what i was going but o am and i'm looking at shat on the shitter

to be honest i'm not

i the shooter

a

ok i was on the shoot ok

but nothing nothing happened

i was just like

i just

add some gas

so

even if we were to disregard all historical basis for taiwan being an independent nation when it comes to its long struggle independence let's just talk about modern history then

the people of taiwan struggle against chenkai sheks white terror and if anyf you don't know what the white terror is the white terror the most irrelevant stupid bull should ever because in dylan still doesn't understand

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taiwan's population density would make a military altercation very difficult for the us if china were to occupy taiwan even partially

the us was sure would end up killing taiwanese civilians in the process

neocon input leads to neocon result and that would be the only reason for refugees if the us intervenes

but anyway and thank you for the five

it is

but anyway as i was saying

m

mm

oh yeah yeah

what dylan doesn't understand is that

if they have fought for democracy against the k mt

that doesn't address that's not the basis for

a state being sovereign

for state to be sovereign

is based in the military

so when you say they fought they didn't fight with arms

they secure their own state

they had a little bullshit color revolution like

so what that doesn't change the underlying geopolitical reality at all

it was a system of purges that chenkaihek and his sons until about nineteenre eighty seven

from about one nine hundred fifty i forget exactly when it started purge

independence advocates and opposition to the government

baste

you want to know why mal respected

saying

i shay

and vice versa

because both believed in one chanoer

ok

and chang

did a lot of bad shit

but he didn't only do badching

ok

urging those independence people

why don't i can't advocate

what depends on what's meant by purged of course

they were scared that this would jeopardize their ability to reconquer the mainland of china since most of the independent struggle

didn't really have any interest in invading the chinese you know the communist party of china

is a successor to the k m t do you guys know that

the communist party of china

za like split from the cam t

theycat a successor

and

it's like a faction of the came to and you know the came t still exists

in china and it's a party that's a lot recognized in one of the eight parties that exist in china

of course sunyat sen is still respected in china

of course he is

he's like the father of modern china

these mainland are re conquering and so they purge them hundreds of thousands

were purged to be exact

and those people struggled for years until the one nine hundred ninety s when they were eventually able to actually get a democracy

and that history of struggle is the history of modern taiwan struggling against the authoritarian system of government that was in place and then they were able to institute a liberal democracy which they have to this day

do you disagree with the fact of course i t it's not a liberal democracy military mind of the uman thaning is the foundation of taiwan as having any political independence from the mainland whatsoever it is the arms taken up by the k m t that is secured that and it is for the same reason that is the arms of the special forces that you're talking about made up by the pro k mpt loyalist i mean the cam

are the ones who are securing the political independence in the first place if these liberals want to go and not address it and have the offer something their democracy is not secured you're not you're not addressing liberal democracy you're talking about is something dylan loves to do is he loves to give narrative

in real time

instead of actually demonstrate

so for example he'd be like

pause i want to let you know you're fumbling as if he speaks for

dod

as if he speaks for the audience as if he speaks

for the truth

has you're fumbling right now youre i was just want to let you know you're fumbling

like he's acting like he's a neutral moderator and a debater

and that's also something he did when it came to the fighting ships

os you don't want to stray by

bro i told you outsi him i mean but he just narrative ves narratives and studies he runs his big mouth

it's all he does

has no basis in any sovereign power ok i don't dos no basi literally military not addressing my same power that made taiwan possible as a separate state in the first place

is something the liberal democrats have no stronghold in whatsoever so it is only on the basis of the ideals of the k m t

and the view that there is one china

that has kept taiwan separate from the mainland in the first place you're floundering

but when it comes can you address the point that i'm following ver just my point what's your point my point was that the modern history of taiwan

et your flower

your fumb

your flow

oh my god haws you're floundering and your fun

he just gives narratives

here's the truth about dill

dylan doesn't want to be a fighter

he wants to be a commentator he wants to be like joe rogan or a w w e comedy he just wants to commentate to narrativize things

this guy can't

put up anything he can't actually just

do he just has to give commentary you know

he's not even debating he's giving commentary about the fucking debate we're in then and there

you know

if i yeah well if i waste my time with this emimation and actually do it

which i plan to right now is the plan is to

you know what i win

i'm not going to be like happy whatever i'm going to actually be even more fucking pissed at all of you

for making me waste my time to prove something i already know

did it need to be fok impven

and i'm going to take out my anger on you

the audience

i just want you to know that

no i'm not

threatening guys at the buck up

you know aere on twitch

i'm saying i'm going to be even more bad

on stream and i'm i'm going to be more unforgiving and i'm going to be more

going against the world whatever

you know i'm not going to

it's not going to be happy

happy time but yeah i pretty much have to do it

when it comes to the population is a history of struggle against the authoritarian system the ch coudn so let me finished please but first you i'm not going to let you tire you that i'm not reingly what you sad not fingis definitely if i win i'm going to become a much worse person overall

ha rsh is hard to be

i'm ready for

just go ahead and finish i will finish yet and you will be quiet

we really will i be quiet you will not bond of what

so

this is where things start to a

spiral

right

he says oh well you'll be quiet

dylen i'm not your friend kyle i'm not your friend tyler

when you tell a fully grown arab lebanese man you will be quiet

it's not going to turn out well for you

me because i'm talking beus to the base see how he backpedald

and you're going to be quiet and i called his bluff or what ititch and then he goes

well we're in a debate and we're talking

this is how these snakes work

by snakes i mean these political whatever people

i don't mean a group

is how they work

first he says

and you'll be quiet and then would he if i would have just s sat there and taken that

the the people in the comments would have all been like

is is a bitch styllan just put him in his place

but then when i call his bluff

and say or what beitch

he goes

hause i mean we're just it's just a discussion i didn't mean anything by it i didn't mean anything by it

zero skin in the game but they won't all the consequences

they want all the

roots of the glory of dominating an opponent

but they don't want to deal

with having the skin in the game that's necessary to actually do that

understand

conversation ok ok go't don't sit here say you will be quiet then be quiet i'm not going to fuck and be quiet why don't talk if you tell me to be quiet i won't be how about that ok you won't be not ok then yell please yeah so w say s that's ok you keep yell i'll g you you can keep ok keep

the history of the listen history of that history that history is abt moray was thats you had the gam of the me movie is amazing so why wasn't it that why did't that democracy movement expin to the ma i didn't i wasn't paying attention to the twelve people in the audience

whoever laughed at the b movie joke

is the biggest fuck and loser of all time if you're watching this and you were in the audience and you laughed when he said the b movie joke

you're actually a fucking

i can't call you the word

but let's just say you were bullied in high school you were a loser in high school

you were considered a weirdo

and it's really sad

imagine crying about your loss to do ok

ons if i destroyed dylan

wose have i lost

so this person can spe the truth

so you're saying i lost

but this swarm of people in my chats

are saying otherwise

this swarm of people in my chat are saying otherwise so

it's your word against them

my army says otherwise

you coping bitch

because the demop because this it's a separate cking territory exactly a separate territory it's a separate saying because of a cultural difference

do you think

geopolitical sovereignty is based on culture

or military

's funny stupid

it's a separate territory it's a separate tertory you notice when he does this banging shit

it there's no effect on me

i don't even pay attention to it

it's a separate territory and then i give him the deaths there and he fucking backs down a little bit

di

his heart jumps a little bit when i give him that arab death this is like the stare if you have an arab dad in

listen if you have an arab father

you know what this theair is right

you know what this stare is because

you can keep bothering and bothering and then when they give you that stair yeah you fall in line

he did

for a moment

secured as such ok calm down see how see how you calm down and eatd and then i gave him the stair and he just stopped

let's actually play that back

body language

it's a separate territory

and then i look him right in the eyes for doing that disgusting fucking

i can't say because it's ablias

shit

i'll just give him that fucking look

like what the fuck do you think you're doing kid

on my table

i look him in the eyes once

and then look what he does

he secured it as such ok he calms down

actually when he says

on down what he actually is doing is projecting the fact that he just

i had to calm down after i gave him that stair

you don't you don't do this shit to me dylan

i'm i'm right here right next to you dylan

it's not the internet

and when i give you that look you're going to fuck it stop

and he did

calm down yeah that's the only reason it's talk in separate territory on first place stop slinging out and calm down ok time wastter you bullt sit and waste time you're not letting me speak

dad you're not letting me speak dad you're not letting me speak dad why don't you recognize me dad

recognize me dead

i don't recognize you i don't respect you you're nothing

you nobody

you've made nothing for yourself i don't respect you i don't recognize you

acknowledge me

guys i'm a this is a psychoanalytic analysis

you have to understand what's going on

he's begging for recognition i'm not giving him in

it's not an act by me but i'm not doing it intentionally i genuinely sincerely do not recognize

you need to shut the foot up jesus christ god say your p my god ok so the history finally for the fifth time the history of modern taiwan is a history of struggle against political authoritarianism particularly chenkai shak ok

look i do this he not gonna do shit in person he don't do shit

you look him in the eyes this guy don't do shit

shenkai shek hei did a white terror against the people of taiwan

president

this is what he was begging to talk about

and the

begging to get out so badly

and it turns out to literally be what i just said was a waste of time

and they fought for their freedom ands its not fucking relative

they earned it through blood and sacriics

he's basically trying to say that taiwan earned its sovereignty because the democracy struggle

was like the he gean master slave dialectic battle for recognition prove your lifetype of

except that's something that's only proven

militarily through military

means

so no you don't gain sovereignty

because you had a color revolution

just because listen just because you had a little movement doesn't mean you gain sovereignty

a lot of leftists have this idea that like well there was a struggle and there was bloodshed that doesn't mean you have sovereignty

sovereignty means you have the state

and the military

through the military as a matter of fact

the taiwan democracy movement does not the

is not grounds for sovereignty

sacrifice i guess you still don't have the military

s the government and for the last thirty years they've help hold of democracy which threuwh that demrcracy and bel demoracy

the consent of the governor

democracy used to mean different things

but in twenty twenty two as far as like what this word means in america

democracy can suck my cock

buk democracy

bok democracy

balk them

listen

there's a place for the word democracy historically

um

flato

the republic

understand hohw

talk about democracy

they have been able to elect

democracies and politicians represent their

platonic patriarch communist

versus soy liberal

it's and i mean like

interests and the vast majority of the people within taiwan support continuing the status quo and second if you would to follow the status quo is the independence when you check polling the reason why they choose the status quo currently over independence is purely because if they were and i agree with has on this to declare independence right now they would be bombed to shit and

no they wouldn't

they would not be bombed to shit at all

china would just probably send troops and occupy the island

why would shinn a bomb

taiwan

in any significant capacity no they fucking wouldn't

it's pure american imperialist projection because when america has problems with people they just go in and annihilate them

that's not how china works

yeah it's

pure american imperialist projection it's pure american imperialist projection

america did that to araq

a country it has no

relationship to

geopolitically or historically

who is an american imperialist to talk about what china does with taiwan

yeah it takes thirty six hours for china to fully occupy the island

thanks

it but it has to for some reason it has the bomb it has to use bombs

why

millions will die it would be a desa

i kind of missed that part

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my astian tudor grew up in soviet uzbekistan

her mother still lives there and said of this is what you call democracy

it's not for me thank you patriot for the fi i appreciate

millions would die

if china occupied taiwan in thirty six hours millions would die

f

millions would die guys apparently millions would die

oh my god

disaster that's a terrible thing but apparently china is going to bomb bomb the shit out of taiwan

we don't know why though because

it's like why would you say this

by the way rellly doesn't know anything about militaries or

wars

in the twenty first century this is what he's saying

or for that matter at any point in history

if you think that

the strategy for chinas china's invasion of taiwan is going to involve

killing a lot of people you just don't know anything about how war works

that a nation and its people declaring independence even though it's already independence is so result in a bombing and destruction of a sovereign people with its own

identity culture

language that has started and continues to separately develop what happened the chinese veterans only

let's talk about that what is the current evil

that the

chinese government you seceed from a sovereign

you see he doesn't understand any

any scientific understanding of politics or sovereignty

do what is the evil

evil has nothing to do with it

when you secede from a modern state

the modern state's going to it's an act of war

ok

morality has nothing to do with it

en territory ask me y sovereign is not asked me a tis got to be able to respond to the question yeah ok so the difference between the confederacy and when i talk about this younvil is this from the chinese perspective it is s wy does he get mad when everyone understands the point with the point you're trying to say is that

well the confederacy was upholding slavery

ok

you see how he gets frustrated because he wants to waste my time he just wants to waste my time

this is what i mean by a time waster

we get the fucking point

what do you just

because i'm ca' i'm

in a psychoanalytic sense

he is experiencing symbolic castration

he is experiencing a castration of his jouissants to speak

he wants to speak

and i'm castrating his ability

this really goes back to the fathers

this honesty goes back to the father

i am a father figure

cutting off a peece like china

and basically s submitting it to foreigners

well i know has endured the censory of hums it remembers the century of humiliation china will never submit to the dominance of anglo saxon imperialists

and it will refuse this on bond

of war

so if taiwan were to commit independent so called independence from china it would become a satellite state of the americans

china's not going to tolerate a piece of its territory being cut off if people try to take china's territory they're going to be met with a swift response it's interesting that its the people when the people we're talking about or the people who live there those are the people who would want to be a sovereign nation it's not the americans coming in and they don't just shut the fok up please don't you got to let me speak ok

my god fukn sess ok so the people there

overwhelmingly and there's no ed you to provide that the debt rejects this

do not want to be part of the mainland government under any circumstances that's only this doesn't mean they want independence

holy fox

six percent only six percent of the population actually want reunification eventually orm mediately with the mailing government only six percent that means i four percent there good data you're going to cit i don't know what it's for if there's a beijing time yet yeah why should i just trust the taip times not the beijing time ok tell me what's wrong with the five a times i couln tell you about the state funding that comes from for certain news publications are published the data there's no difference so my source i just sos youre just ip to talking about the f

that's the difference ok what's the funding difference typy times isn funded by the timehen he's got a it's just funded by private corporations that

it's even worse than private corporations it's funded by radio free asia and the ned

that makes it significantly less reliable

then if it were to be funded by the taiwanese government

which at least probably has a vested interest at arriving at a

more neutral conclusion for taiwan

it's being funded by foreign sources that have an agenda for taiwan

the taiwanese government will be a far better source th the sources of funding for the taipei time

prop up the govern ok so there's no soul that i could sort of back first of all there's two points because you weasel the way out of the first one then i'm going todress a second one the first point is simply this you're talking you you're you're giving this this a sob story about the history of democratic struggle within taiwan all of that still rest

thank you x

as uh you have

byes

thank you

first upon the foundational bedrock of true sovereignty sovereignty in the true hobsy and carl schmidt sense of sovereignty as in being able to enforce a state of exception

which is the kmt's military might they have not changed this foundation

and the ca m t is over bee founded its founding mission was based on one

china now the second thing we're talking about is whether which sources are a

sorry i sorry with the polling data polls have shown

that the majority of it is true people in taiwan want to maintain the status quo but as far as the taiwanese people whether they want to along the road eventually become independent or along the road

want to join with the

with china both of these are smaller than the percentage who say they either don't care or they would not care either way

so what you're saying is patently wrong both of these people eventually independence or eventually unification both are a small minority of taiwan's population o

so the first thing is on this this hobbsyan

nerd shed ok

you don't get the sit here in the nerdiest room of

all of america

being the biggest nerd on the fucking

and let me be clear about something

i was never a nerd in high school dillon was sincerely the nerd he cared about

of the teacher in the

student body organizations

and he was a he's a nerd he is a nerd of i've met him in person ok

he is one hundred percent a fucking nerd

i am a falcon

philosopher warrior do you understand there's a fucking difference

meaning

i'm i actually know my shit i don't dwell in

nerd

shit i know my falccing shit

i care about this stuff

i actually care about it

ga

i don't care about this nerd this is why i hate nerds i don't hate nerds

because they care about

on

i hate nerds because they do well in the inability to resolve anything through thinking

nords

dwell in a state of permanent fucking wonder and

uncertainty as far as the conclusions of thought are concerned

nerds are all pseudo intellectuals they're all pseudo intellectuals

and they they dwell in in this fake version of intellectualism

but they never get

they never actually take these things to their conclusion

so for example

i'm here talking about carl schmidt and hobbes and stuff right

taking thoaghw to the edge

of its

it's a

it's

its use

nerds are like you're a nerd for that

this is the definition of throwing stones in glass houses

sorry it's even a better term

let me put it this way

imagine if

you're in an orgy

of furry orgy

and then some guy walks in

oh

um

i don't know

is wearing like a b d sm suit

and the furry walks over to him and he goes

i don't care about this de genion

what are you doing in that room then you're already in the thick of it

you may as well take it to its conclusion

because you already in the you're literally right there in the thick of it

do understand

so when dylan sits here is like i don't care about this nerd shit we're not in a club right now we're not in a fucking bar we are talking about

this purely whatever intellectual you know what i mean like

who are you to fucking posture as a normy right now you can't fuck i posture as a normy right now

you're anything but normal

you got to you' got to understand the dialectic of normis

versus

uh like i don't know

political political whatever fucking people

what makes someone a nerd is not

having a genuine passion in a certain topic or subject matter

that's that happens to be fringe

would make someone erd

is the fact that they don't recognize that it's not fringe

a nerd is someone who's like thinks they're totally annormy

who's very different from normal people

but if you have a passion for something that's not normal

that normal people don't

and you're able to recognize that

and you're that's not you're not going to be a nerd because you're going to know the difference

you're not going to like talk about this shit at a club or a bar when you're talking to girls or whatever the fuck

we're going to be able to separate them

because you know that they're not the same thing but you genuinely have a passion for it anyway

you know what i mean so dylan is legitimately aert

so i don't care about any of that i'm going to be would have bet

i hate when these pseudo intellectuals go you know what ha i don't care about this nerdh

but you're already in the thick of some fucking bullshit anyway i'm not

you're not at a club right now you're not at a you know i mean you're already in the thick

this is what these fucking marxists on twitter do

right

and twitter they'll be like

and marx this marx that and then i will quote them marx's words

from his early writings like

i don't care about this nerdshit

you better fucking care about it because you're already in the thick of bringing up marks

if you don't kick that don't act like you're a normal person when you're not

don't act like you're a normal fucking person when you're not

it's the worst thing in the world i hate it so much

i hate when people posture as normys when they're not fucking normys

in context

i hate when people posture as fucking mormies

he guys i want you to look at the average dylan viewer this is actually a dylan fan

what is up with this satanic fok up shit

he's literally talking about

the r

r a p type of word

and that's what they fantasized over that's what these people fan

why do leftist by the way ha

these new neo con weird leftists

have this weird fantasies

it's so disturbing

it's so fucking disturbing

very disturbing

very disturbing do my fans ever say that shit fukner

look i can't tell you the truth about what that statement means because it's not allowed on twitch for me to talk about it

but on

he's band in my chat

said he'd talk to me he just banned my chat he can't show in my chat

you completely honest

what i careot

but h

what's a discord we can meet in i don't know

shared discord we can meet in

i don't falk in n

youd meet in a shared thiss ward maybe i don't know

educated

ok elite it just like you don't care about sciins istory ok i

shut the fugu ok so the thing is

i can care about one thing and one thing only here and that's the consent of the government

it

you understand

how fucking hilarious this is

he goes i don't care about this nerd shit and then he goes and talks about the consent of the governor

so if you talk about the consent of the governed

i literally brought up cakrl smidt

and you said the consent of the governor

maybe carl schmidt is a little bit relevant as far as that that whole thing is concerned

and as a patriot that's based on philosophy

you don't want to talk about hobbs or call schmidt and don't talk about abstract philosophical principles god like the consent of goy just keep

i just want to be able to spout dogmas without anyone questioning them

i just want to be able to take this bullshit i learned in college for granted

with no pushback

ca go i contest youre the foundational political loss and i don't here you're trying to s s if you don't care the don't fuck a debate well then don't sey me if you want to talk to me if you don't think it this if you want to run he's the one who said he don't care i'm here to debate

ready to debate

and look how absurd he looks

walk out the room walk why is he telling me to walk out of the room when he's the one bitching

he's bitching about the debate

and i'm actually making points and he's telling me to walk out of the room

you got to walk out you fuck an idiot

hypothetically i'm not calling anyone an idiot but hypothetically someone who would say that

because you are an idiot

and you're a fucking degenerate

you gon walk up because i'm talking

if you are in the right your position as merits why do you interrupt so much

i talked about this yesterday i interrupted so much because i don't respect dylan

i don't respect him

and all of my interruptions

were vindicated

he was just wasting time

the point

was already absorbed

and there was no need for him to waste time

by running his mouth

enjoying his own speech

like the point was already

absorb

he didn't there's nothing he would have said that would have made a difference

talking about what i'm talking about it my t when i gave thehm the chance to speak

he literally just said the shit that's like ok points is already taken why i don't know why you're saying this shit again

i don'tre i don't if you i don't care i don't care then walk out my god you yellow he here is where the boxing should started

i for a guy who's dodging a boxing match i'm doging

look how everyone starts talking and the

oh

no

buck and peanut gallery

of

i can't say i can't talk

being a man is not to allow the conic vers ex you conduct yourself

dennis

unlike you my time is worth something

my time is worth some

oh this is so scandalous

fuck and boxing yes you were really

why did you bring that up

you see how you just brought that up because he lost the fucking debate

specifically on the whole thing about carl schmidt and stuff

when he found out that i'm going to bring in a topic

that

when you guys say f

do you mean the stream ends or you're just experiencing bufferings

because those are very different things

i i wish all

language was allowed on twitch because i have a specific word i want to call

mak com that's not allowed on twitch

and it's just such an adequate word

it's such an adequate word right

o there's a big delay guys that's a big delay

there' is a big delay

yeah it's is it in sync

thank you imperado

once in chat if you can hear this

run's in chad if you can hear this

okay

it's good it's good it's good it's good

good so the rest of this video is not suitable for twitch

i don't think

but you can i guess you can watch it elsewhere

i don't know if i can like advocate for watching i don't

wealcom ros

i

but on

that's how it started that's how that whole fucking thing started

a

now someone told me dylan's giving a story on his dream about how i first met him

some'm going to tell you how i first met dyllan

ok

saturday

a saturday

i am

after stream

pjuz if you can hear me right now

i don't know why you're foking scamming one

ok stop spamming one

stop swimming one

saturday after i streamed i went down to look at destiny's debate

and just

i don't know check it out see what's going on

and

ah i was walking around

and

apparently dylan was standing right in the back

and

there was a book thing and i was i was walking past them

keep mind that's how much this person is just not noticeable

also they were wearing a mask

and dylan was the only person wearing a mask in that entire room that is something i did notice

he was the only person wearing a mask in the whole fucking room

so i walk past him

a

not noticing him

and finally i walked back past him just you know walking around the room and shit

and

w i'm kind of circling around

and he finally says infrared and i turn around

and i see him

and i'm like ah dylan burns

and he he

puts out his hand and shakes it

and i thought about do i want to shake this hand or not and i said ok whatever we don't really have any major beef

i said ok i said hew we're going to box h

and then he said a

he's like one day

what do you mean one day i thought we're going to you know

i

what do you mean one day right

because i think he maybe had second thoughts when he met me in person

so

i thought it was funny and i'm like

so we're going to box on like

some shit like that

and then i laughed i'll like

because i felt like

this is the guy who wants to box me

you know

in person

this is the guy who wants to box me i didn't do it aggressively i did it like in a

i didn't do it an aggressive way i just did it in like a fucking

funny way i was just like

like a comedian i don't know i was just like

yeah like that

and then i laughed

mm

looking back it was a really aggressive passive aggressive thing to do because like he probably felt humiliated but

ah

i just didn't really take him that seriously you know i saw him in person and i'm like this is the guy who wants to fuck and box me

m

so yeah

yeah i did do that

and

h i don't know what i think i just

i didn't talk to him because i

i' have nothing to talk to you about you know

as a guy whatever

it was one day

a

but seeing him in person did give me second thoughts about the boxing thing because

it's just the training thing is only issue but in person

let me just put it this way if i box

and trained for six months

it would be the most brutal fight

in the history of fucking celebrity box

it would be very very very very ugly and

and it was pretty

pretty tempt

beyond

it still would require a lot of time

again

boxing

usually you don't start fighting until after a year right

mm

but you know how i work magic i i could do it half

not

you gotta get three months for leg work was techn it's a very technical fuck

fort

no

but

wow physically seeing him in person it's

it's hard to take seriously

why are you scared of the bogs dill

why do you ask questions that are fucking wrong

not i'm scared of box dylan

i refused to dedicate six months

of my time

or dylan

i'll dedicate one or two months

not six

i'm going to put him before my streaming career s the fuck up you fuck an idiot

are you scared of bogs dyllin

i was surprised how short you were today

ellan wasn't

yllan wasn't in person

by the way

i literally pressed dyllan the minute i met him he sow you want to box

and he literally goes

oh one day

one day

and he's like

mm

i didn't i didn't actually know that you were you

i didn't actually know you looked scary in person ha

i thought in the i thought it's just a projection on the internet i didn't

i didn't know you look so aggressive and scary in person

so why don't you do it

e and

we're doing a

because emma a takes less time for me to drain

simple

if you think there's a has it like

if i had six months of training

it's that falking easy right

but is it worth it

let me let me put it this way

thank

i'm going to explain this with airtight logic then do it

you have to use your head

ok

let's say there's an eight year old

living in cambodia

and then give you a message on the internet saying fight me

and you are

you have arnold you look like john sino you're john seno living in california except you're broke

and this eight year old in cambodia wants to fight you

if you don't want to fly all the way to cambodia to do it

does that mean you're scared

and that is literally the analogy

does that mean you're scared

you just saw him and i can't i can't i can't understand i can't comprehend an analogy of space distance versus time

so

flying all the way to across the world is the same thing for me as training for six months

training does not have anything to do

training just means you learn to lock down the rules and the techniques

it has nothing to do with raw aggression

period or fortitude or willpower or all that shit that actually does make a difference

all training considered equal

ok

fock training if you can

theke hnm just do it

then why should i follow boxing's very specific technical rules

i think he would rock you

i want to like really make that ninety five percent it's going to happen

she

boking people

n stalk my cock i cannot wait

oh my falking god

it's gona feel so falking good holy falk holy falk and shit

so ready to touchdown to michigan get to work

i'm so fucking re

i'm so

this make dylan agree you both

he literally said no to that he literally accused me of threatening him when i insinuated something like that

so i had to back off of that

because karen i mean dylan

immediately played victim and ran

to the manager

if you watched the fucking vius

you ran to the manager crying

yeah the narrative is whatever they want it to be

but you know why i'm still here thriving

because it doesn't matter what they want the fucking narrative to be

the truth is still here

somehow the truth just comes out anyway

he's living in your head free

he's literally talking about me on stream right now

i was literally just responding to some bullshud stories he told us fuck and hak

i saw dylan's a shitty boxer but what most people don't understand is even if he's a shitty boxer

he knows the rules and the techniqs

now when he's competing he's shit added his total shit

but he's got the legwork technique and he knows the bread and butter rules

let put it this way

riding a two wheel bicycle who's that guy neil armstrong

so when neil armstrong

he never learned how to ride a bicycle two wheels

and he always needed training wheels

a five year old who knows how to ride with two wheels would be better than him

this is like a baseline technique you have to get down

before who's truly better

comes out

the only time that doesn't happen

is when it's a street bight

ellens watching it that not ten minutes later he was talking about this fucking bullshit

in the hotel room

or in the in the hotel conference

shut the farck up

can liar

and of course he's watching a destiny debate

because that's the only way he gets views

not lance armstrong but the other guy who cheated

steroids whatever' his fucking name is

i don't know who is

yeah of course he has the fuccing cover destiny because that's all the fuccing has

even i when i was screaming with destiny in't even know

that he's this popular

i get two thousand views what

bak

okay i mean

it's really not worth shitting my stream up obsessing over destiny to get his viewers it's just not

destinyes i don't really have an issue with him i just don't consider him that important to be honest

like

to be obsessed over

i just don't

you

can do anything

you want to

i saw what peter wiley did

and i think i might contact the modern day debate people to take down his video

but it's you know peter wiley fell off

he fell off he's a failed uploader

and that's what happens when you try to be a fuck and fence

fen should

could do anything

you want to

yeah it's really it's really peter uh

salty

for being honest

uh who

oh shit

i st

hey guys it's been like a fucking

six hour stream

and i know we didn't have much card expense can i do that

we ho much content this stream

but i'm going to get to uploading the

some stuff

and then in terms of content

i'm gonna set up professor hawz we're going to get into that soon

puta those debates are boring a shit though let's be honest

professor hoz i'm go to

this' going to be in the works also we got a collab

an irel collab with the streamer

what about mr grow debate i will do it tomorrow

or i don't know i'm direroll might be tomorrow

um

we'll do it anther time in know

he's going to be here

time a

but

that's going to be a surprise

i'm not going to announce that

and it happen

all right guys we're going to raid frogan

even though it's she's becoming a little too famous

be honest

m

she's becoming a little bit too famous and successful not going to lie

so i kind of feel like

oh

but we'll rase her anyway

because although she never came to the showdown

you know

no

uh yeah i fugt it was raider

you

and anything goodbye guys