Into the New Era [Chatting with Caleb 6pm EST!]

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i was angry

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i can't fight

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home

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let's go

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you're the night sky trying to make me

see your stars

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and your heart makes no sound

i'll find valid in your eyes

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you'll always be my

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you'll always

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and the silence is

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silence

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and your heart makes no sound

i'll find valid in your eyes

you'll always be my night sky

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he'll always

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he'll always

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i get lost inside my thoughts and when i

start to think all the time

closest starts to end up on the break

i tried so hard

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and i can't see the ground can we

stop this gravity

it keeps bringing me down

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sleepless nights i laid awake just

begging to let go i

almost got to suicidal thoughts when you

stepped in an angel sent from heaven

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it keeps bringing me down

hold on

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it'll

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baby

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when it hurts like this

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that can never change

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when it hurts like this

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when it hurts like this

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behind when it's good

it's uneasy

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when it hurts like this

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and i've been chilling watching the

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and i don't need to speak a

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my jokes aren't funny

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and

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i know we got the good vibes

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sing away

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play me like a bass guitar

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people

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if you don't

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if you don't wanna change

i can help you out i can help you out

i can help you out

i can help you out

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here we go we go again time is up and

i'm calling up my friends

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if you don't wanna change

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look who's back look who's fucking back

in the game

and they thought they could bury us and

they thought they would be rid of us

and they thought we would be gone

forever

but look who's back that's right

it's us

that's fucking right soy and dylan burns

tv

thought we would be buried in darling

gone forever

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you are now witnessing the beginning

of a new era a new

era of the left the era

of infrared

infrared is a platform for

marxism-leninism

in the age of multi-polarity and the

post-covert world

the breadth tube left the fake synthetic

left

the cia dsa left

trembles in fear at the mere sight

of our glorious rise

the gorillas and sons make them tremble

and wet their pants they go to bed

every night and have nightmares about

our

eyes son floyd

putting swastikas and pornography on our

stream

we caught him looking at pogba boy

we caught him looking at the message

saying should i spam

porn on his stream and he added him to

the fucking car

right after he saw it and we have a

fucking video

evidence proof of his eyes looking at

fucking poker boy

saying he's gonna fucking spam shit to

get us banned

what fucking week later and we're back

and they thought that would bury us

forever

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they thought we would be gone forever

and look who's back

look who's back

infrared isn't going nowhere they try to

de-platform us

they try to silence us they try to use

dirty tricks

but the light of truth burns through the

fake

snakes in the shadows the burning truth

of the sun

shines high in the sky and it ain't

going nowhere just look up

just fucking look up and you'll see the

god damn fucking truth

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snakes in the shadows

scared to reveal themselves into the

light of day

sun soy that fucking fake he's got a

fucking trans

flag in the back because he's virtuous

signaling he doesn't believe in

any of it he's a fucking fake he's a

fucking

fake left he's trying to con and deceive

people he's probably a fucking predator

too like all these goddamn synthetic

fucking virtue signaling leftists

they don't believe in a goddamn fucking

thing they say

infrared believes in what they say

infrared don't prey on

people infrared don't use their clouds

to prey on people infrared ain't giving

no more free clock to these fake

synthetic bitch-ass leftists

infrared ain't going nowhere and they

thought they would de-platform us

forever

and one week later we're back stronger

than ever

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soy what are you gonna do bitch huh the

fuck you gonna do huh

i pound my chest like a gorilla

can't do shit can't do a fucking thing

they tried to de-platform us samantha

banana i'm inside your head

trying to de-platform us but see look

what happens

one week later we're back stronger than

ever

and that's how it is at the end of the

day

it's always how it's gonna be we'll

always come back stronger than ever let

this be a lesson

they can't de-platform us they can't

fucking get rid of us

the truth is coming to the light of day

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son soy and dylan burns tv obliterated

they failed and we won

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we won and they failed

they're on their knees trembling before

us trembling at the rise of infrared

gorillas and suns in the chat gorillas

and sons in the chat

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let them come after us what's more

powerful than us huh

you won't find a goddamn chat and all of

twitch

more powerful than ours a hundred

viewers in our chats more active in

destinies

more active than bosses more active than

hassan's

anybody in the name you name them and

our chat's more active

more energetic and we're rising they're

falling

we take it over the politics channel

we the new guys into in town we taking

over

they're going to look up to us and put

some respect on our name

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they're going to notice us put some

respect on our name

son so it couldn't do a fucking thing i

gave that little bitch ass some clock

that 20 viewer andy little bitch he's

been in the fucking game for so goddamn

long

he's still a 20 viewer fucking andy we

just started this shit we had a hundred

viewers on twitch

day back that we fucking got unbanned

without further ado let this fucking

show get on our

to get this show on the road however

they say that shit

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okay

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so

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shout out neat feet for that based

fucking vid

bass fucking vid

you thought that you'd be getting rid of

us forever now didn't you

you miss me you miss me twitch you glad

to see me back huh

you glad to see me back i ain't going

nowhere

i didn't go nowhere you understand

how does it feel a bunch of pussies who

tried to fucking de-platform us

using dirty fucking tricks and look what

fucking happened

fucking backfired on your fucking face

cause i exposed you

sansoi i exposed you exposed

yeah play those dirty tricks dylan burns

tv

came out of fucking nowhere thought

you'd fucking

you thought you'd fucking get rid of

this you thought you'd kill us in our

cradle and we're back stronger than ever

salute the chat salute the chat

salute the real ones in the chat stick

by us

thick and thin not the fakes who attack

us in our moment of weakness

but the ones in the chat sticking by us

through thick and thin

through thick and thin they stuck with

us we were banned off twitch

and that whole week through youtube 200

viewers

every day no fucking problem

they stick by us thick and thin because

that's what infrared's about

salute the real ones in the chat

sticking by us through thick and thin

sticking by us through thick and thin

sticking by us through thick and thin

and you all know bullshit we've been

going through this week

we got these fakes and these traitors

their nobodies tried to fucking bite us

in the ankle

in our moment of weakness

and we demolished them one by one they

all

fall one by one they all fall

we're undefeated to this day not a

single person

can claim victory over infrared in a

debate

or in anything not a single person

they couldn't beat us in the debate so

they tried to go to war

playing dirty tricks and they fucking

failed

they failed bad they failed bad

through thick and thin chad's been with

us

through thick and thin the gorilla army

stays strong

we stay in line stick together and they

call us a cult

they call us a cult and they try to

cancel us because we don't ban

people from our discord even if they're

talking shit down on

us even if

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i just fucking slammed my fingers on my

fucking desk

oh damn but you know i don't feel pain

i don't feel pain you know what i'm

saying i don't feel pain you understand

i don't feel pain i don't feel pain i

don't feel pain

damn that shit hurts man that shit

fucking hurts

oh shit that shit fucking hurts bad dude

that shit that all right be honest that

shit hurts bad my friend

but you know what i'm saying they call

us a cult

and they try to cancel us because we

don't ban people coming on our discord

because they're right-wingers

we don't ban nobody because of ideology

you understand we got rules in our

discord

but they want a little echo chamber

because they want to be the gatekeepers

of the

they try to say we're a cult and they

try to say we're too open which one is

it you got to make up your mind bitches

calling us a cult and shit shut the fuck

up

we're a fucking cult we're fucking cult

we're the fucking cult really

really we're a cult we're a cult shut

the fuck up bitch we're an army is what

we

are a cult just sets up a farm somewhere

and stays on their little bullshit ass

farm bread tube's the cult

we're an army on the march we keep

moving we keep moving

we're always mobile we never settle down

and create a little cult

we're always mobile expanding and

growing

they want to call us a cult fucking

pathetic

fucking pathetic all these bitches want

to debate me

and they fall one by one

son soy i'm looking at you i see you

i'm back on this shit bitch i'm the king

you're the fucking bitch

i'm the king son soy i'm the king here

you below me bitch with your 20 viewer

andy little bitch ass

son soy thought you could fucking ban

me look who's back look who's back with

100 viewers on your platform

you've been here for so long haven't you

son soy haven't you

and i just busted onto your fucking

platform and i'm fucking

more than triple your fucking size

quadruple your size and i just busted my

fucking

i just kicked down the door i just

kicked down the door

fucking busted the door wide open took

all your fucking viewers bitch

cause we're pirates

we're gonna yoink those viewers from you

you political

fake leftists we're gonna take those

viewers like we're pirates

because we're raiding your shit you know

what i'm saying

your heart matey is what i'm saying

we are horde we're looting and burning

the village

taking all the goods taking the war

booty

you know what i'm saying sansoi thought

he would de-platform us

he thought we'd be gone forever but

we're back

we're back a week later

claps in the chat failed attempt

failed attempt

failed attempt but they thought they'd

take us down didn't they

they thought they'd take us down they

thought they'd take us down

we are the future of the left it's 2021.

it's 2021. it's 2021

cp usa 2036.

we're not about those 2010s anymore we

are the left in the 2020s

these fake ass synthetic left bitches

but how are you people all you people

all you people hating on us watching us

you thought we'd be gone forever

oh you thought we'd be gone

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you guys thought we'd be gone you

thought it'd be that simple

no no no it's gonna be a little bit more

work

than that my friends a little bit more

work than that my friends

you thought it'd be so simple you

thought it'd be so

easy it's a little bit more work than

that my friends a little bit more work

than that

because when you got supporters like

these it's gonna be a little bit more

work to take us down my friend

little bit more work try a bit a little

harder you know what i'm saying

but you know with that we persevere and

that's what we're about

we persevere and that's what we're about

you understand

persevere and that's what we're about

through hardship and through thick and

thin the gorilla army

climbed the mountain and went back on

the other side

climbed the mountain and sled down

this is our victory everybody

salvage this victory salvage this moment

we went through that week of hardship

the army was thinned a little bit

instead of having 300 viewers we had 200

per stream

but guess what we made it out the other

side

and we met our twitch forces

our army on twitch back through the

other side we were cut off from supply

lines

and now we're back in the game we're

taking over twitch

i vow we're gonna take over political

twitch

we're gonna fucking take over political

twitch

there's no army there's no army like

ours

and thought slime you're on my radar boy

you on my fucking radar you will debate

me

you will debate me it will happen

you can't keep running and ducking and

hiding you we know you know about us

we know you know about us i saw it in

your eyes

you know about us thought slime you're

not gonna keep running from us

you will face infrared

we are going to debate those line

because he needs to put some respect on

the name of the tankies

you know i'm saying they call us tankies

like it's an

insult i'd rather be a tanki than a

fucking snowflake

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i'd rather be a tank i'd rather be a

lion

than a fucking chicken shit sansoi

little bitch

but they say i'm a tanki oh i'm a tank

yeah i'm a tanki

yeah i'm a tanki we're riding that tank

mowing down the fucking snowflakes fuck

them

trying to cancel us and de-platform us

and shit

and they fucking failed

i see you i see you son soy

sans soy hey i know you're watching

i know you're watching all these fucking

bitches on twitch trying to get clout

off of us

kevin logan i schooled you i fucking

schooled you

you bluffing bitch

talking all that shit cause you need

viewers because you don't have any

content

oh this guy doesn't know what he's

talking about he has no clue what he's

talking about

but every time you tried to test me you

failed you bluffing bitch

you fat fucking slob

you you act civil in our debate but then

you go about talking shit

oh he doesn't know a god he doesn't he

has no idea what he's talking about

he has no idea he's he he doesn't know

what he's

it's all a bunch of gibberish it's all a

bunch of weird salad

it's all meaningless none of it means

anything no you're just a fucking

idiot you're a peanut brain fucking

idiot is your problem

you fucking dumbass

and you're not getting another actually

if you challenge me maybe i will give

you another debate but it's not going to

be a nice one this time

and i'm going to challenge your

knowledge because to say somebody

doesn't know what they're talking about

assumes you know something you know a

thing or two and i want to test your

knowledge boy

little bitch kevin logan

the fuck do you know huh you don't know

a goddamn fucking thing about the topics

i brought up when we were talking

you don't know shit you're

how he doesn't know what he's talking

about he doesn't know what he's talking

about

and i've been at this for years and

years and years not being in public

and i don't know what i'm talking about

when this is all i fucking devoted my

life to is this shit

this shit that i'm talking about i've

devoted my whole fucking life to it

and he says i don't know what i'm

talking about what a fucking idiot

of course i know what i'm fucking

talking about

why would i be so specific in what i'm

talking about you think it's random

you think it's fucking random no there

is a consistent threat across

everything i say a consistent thread

you're just too stupid to see it

fuck you mr bamboozle i'm not debating

your bitch ass

you get more viewers than me then i'll

unconditionally debate you but people

who have less viewers than me

after sansoi you get through my

community first

if you're smart enough to take on my

community then you're smart enough to

take on me

but most of you 99 percent of you too

stupid to even win in a debate with my

random

fucking discord people so you take them

on first

you pass through them first then you can

deal with me

wasting my time

wasting my fucking time is what they

want to do

no more weak challengers no more weak

challengers big gorillas sick of eating

tiny monkeys

you understand big gorilla want to eat

some

big monsters you know i'm saying gorilla

got to get big you know what i'm saying

gorilla big now but gorilla's got to get

bigger you know what i'm saying

gorilla's sick of eating tiny monkeys

little tiny monkeys

little two-bit snacks

i need those tiny monkeys no more i'm

full

you understand i'm here to take on the

big godzilla monsters now you know what

i'm saying

and i hear those tiny little gorilla

tiny little monkey ass bitches you know

what i'm saying

but you know what i'm saying y'all know

the beginning of this fucking stream

y'all know the beginning what do we do

in the beginning of our streams twitch

chat what do we do

i know the youtube chat knows there's a

twitch stat no

bitch baby you'll wreck me fuck you

bitch wreck my chat first prove you can

wreck my chat

prove you can wreck my chat and the

discord

get in vc and discord and debate my

discord and if they find you worthy you

can debate me

you fucking bitch this is prime time

hours you ain't wasting my time

we about to check that reddit you

understand you in discord then go and

debate my community

see how your fair bitch then you can get

to me

we check this reddit this image

i'm fucking saving this shit immediately

saving immediately

saved immediately instantly fucking

instantly

instant save based

based fucking image by the way guys i

got a full eight hours of sleep

this cbd shit worked like a fucking

charm

so now we're full maximal super scion

energy super saiyan

maximal fucking energy today you

understand i got them seven eight hours

of sleep

i could run 10 miles right now

i'm charged up you know what i'm saying

throughout this week i had this insomnia

i only been getting two hours of sleep a

day but now

i'm on twitch and the power level is

unlimited

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factual fucking factual

fucking factual

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nah man i have yet to meet another big

gorilla i only get in these tiny monkeys

what's my benchmarks i don't do

benchmaxes they're for cocks

you only do what you actually do

functionally

what i can do of 10 i've only been up to

225

for my uh reps of 10 but i don't even do

flat bench most of the time i just

wanted to see how much i could do

and i probably could have done more but

that was just the most i went up to

because i didn't have a spotter

if i had a spotter maybe i could do more

than 225 10

10 reps but i never do flat bench i only

do incline

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we have bt bt tv we have it

kami buddhist it's gonna have to wait

after what sansoi did to us

he fucking got our twitch band for a

week because he hired some little bitch

from his community to spam swastikas and

porn

and got our stream banned so no offense

dude i like talking to you too

but we can't be trusting nobody on this

twitch scene right now you know

we can't be trusting nobody right now

the shit that he would that sansoi did

was super sketchy super fucking sketchy

this whole twitch scene of pop political

scene is so full of snakes

and they're connected to the alt-right

and they hire them to fucking spam

swastikas and

pornography and shit these are nasty

disgusting people

nasty disgusting fucking people

sansoi did not get banned to this day

he's still active on twitch he never got

banned

but we exposed him on our youtube

channel i didn't i didn't play that

video because it blurs out the swastika

but i don't know if it blurs it out

enough

but we proved we proved how he was

looking at

pogerboy's comment looking at it down on

screen

with his cursor hovering over the

fucking comment and he invited him to

the fucking call

and he started spamming that shit so

sansoi knew about it

then 30 minutes later after the job was

done

he fucking typed hey don't do that but

only to

make it seem like he was disapproving of

it when we confronted him with the fact

of what he was doing

we got the whole thing on tape we

fucking have it all

we have it all fucking covered

we have it all covered all these twitch

snakes

bunch of fucking twitch snakes you know

i'm saying

we don't trust nobody make it so you

could see bt tv that's that's a restream

problem i think

that's restream's problem

yeah go on our youtube and watch the

video

son soul exposed

by the way guys if you look at our

fucking reddit

we got 420 people join our fucking

reddit we don't delete shit from this

reddit put whatever you want on it

but if you do some bannable shit you get

banned

follow the fucking reddit and twitch

rules

we got a fuck ton of people on this

reddit you understand

join this reddit if you're based if

you're truly based you're going to

go ahead and join this reddit you

understand join this reddit you

understand

join this reddit kill the poor kill the

poor clean

exactly two-party fucking

duopoly is gonna fall

we're gonna have the one-party communist

party cp usa 2036.

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need more reddit mods yeah we probably

will soon

when they say yes i'm left wing

what you hope for what they mean

this disgusting guy

fucking larp is this nsfw

exactly exactly

exactly exactly

upvoted immediately

american author's take on chinese versus

western democracy

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well when you look at the composition of

the chinese legislature people come from

all walks of life

all different provinces all over china

some come from

the nongtren countryside some come from

the cities

one of the great misunderstandings is

that oh china is not a democracy

no china is not a two-party system but

there are

many democratic aspects and processes in

china

i recommend everybody go on the reddit

and watch this video we're not gonna be

able to finish it

go on the reddit watch this based video

it's gonna educate you

about how china's more democratic than

america watch this video

america has fake democracy china has a

real democracy

here we go with the cloud chasers on

twitch

and we call these clout chases they want

our clout guys they want our clout

they know we're rising they know we're

big you know what i'm saying where they

get that

weakness about us you know what i'm

saying they want our clout

they want that cloud they want our cloud

you know what i'm saying

look at these people remember that you

know what i'm saying look at these

people reacting to us

they want our clout

infrared is rising

no i am suppressing

the rise you ain't doing shit

you know i'm saying we rising we rising

infrared is rising

infrared is rising infrared is rising

yeah we

we're gonna look when caleb comes on

we're gonna be mature okay we're gonna

have some fun now

okay i respect caleb i'm not gonna be

retarded with caleb goes okay

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ant he was very rarely stable heidegger

hi digger was a boozy bigger and you

come on

under the table david hume could

out-consume

frederick wilhelm hegel something

something schlegel that

jordan peterson cringe as fuck man i'm

gonna invent my own song

in response ready

jordan peterson the biggest bitch on

twitch

if you debate me not gonna go down like

how it did with jesus you're gonna get

see deck you know i'm gonna slap you in

the face metaphorically

you're gonna lose in a debate and you

cannot even see

that in a debate mr peterson

all you could do

what rhymes with peterson nothing i'm

done

i had to beat him in a debate i'd defeat

easily i'm not even kidding like i'm

joking right now

we're in character and shit but like

seriously non-ironically not jokingly

i could fuck him up in a debate i know

more than he does

and anything related to the ussr

to communism easily easily

jordan i'm coming for you one day

don't you're going to remember my name

and i don't res

in your case jordan i'm not going to

respect my elders because you know what

you you like stephen pinker you like

them academic arrogant people

who just ain't that smart at all but

they just get the time magazine likes

them you know what i'm saying is

celebrity

academics like steven pinker with his

dumb ass fucking curly hair that looks

like isaac newton but it doesn't

he's trying to look like isaac newton

and shit

looks like uh isaac

punkman you know what i'm saying an

intellectual cool lock

exactly you know what i'm saying and see

david hume cut out

david hulman i'm consuming nobody shut

the fuck up about david hume

i know you love david hume pinker

and fucking jordan peterson david hume

could have of course they're gonna

make david hume seem like he's an og

what'd they say about heidegger

you disrespectful as bitch

and you saying kahn's thoughts were

rarely stable

where's your critique of hume because

you because you're scared because kant

btf owed hume you know i'm saying

he ptf owed him you know what i'm saying

and these

i don't want to insult anglos no more

because someone's going to red pill us

about

like that whole thing but you know what

i mean by anglo right these type of

anglos

still can't deal with what kant did

to hume you know what i'm saying

all right

assad blanket fine i'll upload it

props to the lack of gatekeep all right

we gotta read this fast

so happy to fresh sports monster

potential the line must be the line

most draw is completely unproductive but

where do you put it stand

by your principles internally but don't

impose

barriers on people that's not how you

speak to human beings

don't ever fucking put a barrier in

front of a human being unless they're

being personally abusive to you

otherwise draw the line in your heart

and never compromise it in your heart

and then when you talk to people in a

dialectic in a dialogue

guide them to the correct path but never

fucking

throw a line on them and say no fuck you

you're canceled i hate you

never do that draw that line in your own

heart

but don't fucking throw it in people's

face because that's your line

that ain't their problem it's your

problem it's your duty to stick by your

line

ain't there pr it ain't their duty it

ain't their problem

some people are too far gone to every

yes i guess well you gotta

use logic like but based on what you

know i'm saying because

some people there's no they i don't know

you know it depends on

like what is the aim of the conversation

because you don't you don't have to be

like that person who's got to convert

everybody

ever you know sometimes you should just

avoid the topic

like probably with your parents just

avoid the topic you don't have to make

everything into an

uh conversation about this learn how to

be a human being with a personal life

don't make it all about this shit

you know lead by example

not everybody's gonna be a leftist

you're right so in that case

use your common sense but how you can

judge who

is going to be more open to these ideas

is based on

their real living situation and not

their etiology

principles like a working-class guy

who's republican

much more likely than a fucking arrogant

lib

okay even though ideologically that

doesn't make sense but ideology takes

is downstream from real life never

forget that

baster cringe based oh how cute

nixon and brezhnev i heard about this i

saw this before

we saw this in high school so listen 260

viewers i know we have two

i'm expecting 300 maybe 400. that ain't

easily easily you know what i'm saying

we were taking over twitch before we

were banned and now we're back on course

how was super saiyan back on course

and they thought we'd be gone they

thought they would destroy

us and look at us on our first

fucking day back on our fucking first

day back look at us

i thought he would stop us they thought

they would stop us

oh they thought they would stop us

i'm too loud good

factual

i think xi jinping should watch hamilton

that would be a good starting point to

help him figure out how his china

lost nearly every this reminds me of

something kevin logan would say

this is like some dumb shit kevin logan

would fucking say

this is actually how kevin logan and his

fans think this is who they are

and this is the type of tweets they make

oh you must be an idiot and you don't

know

anything because you don't know hamilton

you don't follow our anglo etiquette

you don't fucking uh you know follow the

oxford scholars and their dictionary

and you don't nothing you say is

meaningful at all i'm just going to

dismiss you as nonsensical

and be an inhuman disgusting barbarian

just like how the british empire treated

all of humanity because they considered

all of humanity to be nonsensical

just because humanity didn't fucking

conform to their fucking dogmatic and

narrow

world view and standards and culture

kevin logan

you fucking arrogant bitch

talking all that shit after you got

wrecked

politely wrecked

couldn't even answer a single one of my

points just kept rolling back to well

that doesn't make sense to me

like the peasant thing was the most

pathetic

on his part like that was a no-brainer

like even a fucking five-year-old could

understand what i was trying to say

and it was almost like i was being

condescending how polite i was then i

was like okay well

this is why it's similar kevin you know

it's it's a little bit similar

you know it's really intuitively

self-evident why that's similar

and he's like but the oxford scholars

don't define it that way

so therefore what you're saying makes no

fucking

sense no sense whatsoever

soccer my dick

this stuff's old right cpus oh no

it's coco the green

metal guys that's what that's what

they're training the twitch needs to see

this

these are all twitch streamers this is

all the political twitch scene

you got here you got all of them you got

denims

you got uh

you got a

you got a lecture fan and shit i know

electro fan is in the house

conservatives on twitch

everybody join along and not on the

bitch we i know i'm bastiat that one

lawyer guy

guys that's what they're trading all

those videos we have to

you see what i'm saying you see what i'm

saying we shaking up the twitch game

shanging up the twitch game all this

that this is a fellow traveler i'll vote

it

we already covered that yesterday

fred hampton warned against voss vashti

tendencies

yeah fuck bosch

vosh is still scared

still running away oh that's so cute

full metal is wholesome posting now he's

being oddly wholesome

full metal you've been oddly wholesome

bro you're being oddly wholesome with

your posts

wholesome posting you know what i'm

saying

at least he didn't say socialism is

defined by social ends

because it is salamander you fucking

idiot

that's literally what it fucking is you

guys just don't

understand marx's humanism when marx

talks about

human ends you're like what are those

ends what is the content

marx would say they're just human he's

not giving a predefined content

it's when you think imminent it's called

imminent dialectic

when you think imminently conception on

a conceptual level

you're getting rid of

unnecessarily positive concepts

like social literally just means social

like well what if those ends mean war

well then if you actually analyze it you

realize those aren't social ends they

aren't human ends

and marx himself in private property and

communism do you want me to read it to

you

he literally said human i.e or he had c

said social i.e human

ends okay so yes

it just socialism just means mode of

production

defined by the fulfillment of social

ends what those social ends are differs

across time and space

you don't know that immediately that's

how that's fucking the point of marx's

humanism

are you never gonna fucking give up

never

never

never you guys say

oh social ends it doesn't make any sense

social ends

i'm using the wrong words you fucking

idiot salamander i'll fucking take you

through marx

through his early works and you will

look like a fucking idiot

do you not know the meaning of social

ends as opposed to private ends

you're such an idiot that's literally

how fucking they used it

that's fucking literally how they

socialists used it throughout all of

history they would speak of

a society that fulfills social ends as

opposed to private ones

everyone fucking knew this except you

bred to people

bringing in unnecessarily um

additive concepts to the mix when it's

actually much more simple

you guys don't understand the imminent

dialectic of marx

do you know what imminence means that

word is that we're too big for you

do you know what that word imminence

means it means it is imminent

you want to know why marx spoke of

humanity without actually defining what

that humanity was

because it's a it's a negative concept

it's a concept that delivers you to

reality

rather than a concept which pre uh

pretends and postures to possess

empirical qualities already latent

within it

when mark says humanity he really means

be open to the humanity

that is in front of you what that's

going to look like

he's not saying he knows that that's why

marx

developed his philosophical position

first and then he wrote capital

because capital was the result of marx's

investigation of real humanity in the

present tense

he didn't first write capital and then

arrive at his philosophical position

the reverse happened

they think this social ends thing

doesn't make any sense

what a fucking idiot yes it does make

perfect fucking sense

of course the content of social ends is

going to be distinct

from private ends but that doesn't mean

that content is already pre-defined

in some way these people are so

fucking bird-brained stupid and they try

to talk down to me

they try to talk down to me just because

i fuck their girl

and i fuck their wife and they think

that makes me automatically stupid

oh haas can fuck my girl that means he's

dumber than me at least i can counsel in

my

pretended intellectual superiority no

i'm literally smarter than you and i

know more about you

than about on all of these subjects

socialism communism marxism

any day of the fucking week i'll walk

you through it and you look like a

fucking idiot along the way

salamander i didn't forget your bitch

ass you fucking sansoi simp

i didn't fucking forget you talking all

that shit

last week oh social ends it doesn't make

any sense it's nonsense

have you read anything before bread tube

do you literally think bread tube

invented socialism

have you read anything before fucking

bread tube

have you are you familiar with socialism

in any capacity before bread tube

it makes perfect sense it's in the

fucking name

why is it called socialism and not

workers owning the means of

productionism

because they were saying social ends as

opposed to the anti-social and private

ones that now prevail

in liberal 19th century predatory

industrial capitalism

they were saying we want to socialism we

want our society to be structured

toward social ends

and i'm crazy for saying that that's

what it fucking meant

and literally i can drag these old farts

in the university

please test me any day of the week drag

these old farts from the university

and despite that they'll hate how vulgar

i sound and despite how they'll hate

how how much of a gorilla i am they will

be forced to fucking agree with me all

of the scholars of 19th century history

will fucking agree with me that this is

what the only fucking consistent thread

in this word

socialism was the fact that people were

contrasting

a new appreciation for the fulfillment a

society

economy fulfilling social ends as

opposed to the anti-social

individual and private ones that then

prevailed

any fucking day of the week anyone who

questions

this shit and tries to doubt me and

tries to be like oh you don't know what

you're talking about

i humiliate them i literally make them

feel their stupidity

they feel stupid salamander feels like a

fucking idiot

because i combine gorilla vulgarity with

fucking

intellectual expertise that they fucking

get from the old farts in the university

and they hate that unity of opposites

you don't think i know what i'm doing

with this shit

it's a unity of opposites vulgarity plus

intellect i combine them both

let's continue all right this is being i

already downvoted that

okay do we have anything else pewdie

beast

full metal posting

i didn't enjoy it

then why did you claim we live in

socialism because i was making a

provocative point that

flew over everyone's head so now optics

wise i'm going to de-emphasize this

point i've been making

because people are too fucking stupid to

understand what i was trying to say

that's the sorry truth people are just

too fucking stupid to understand it

so optics wise i'm gonna start

de-emphasizing it

yeah it did fly over everyone's fucking

head

the whole point of we live in socialism

is that it's objective and not

subjectively like

our political superstructure doesn't

reflect that fact

yeah i'm not gonna fucking go down that

rabbit hole watch my earlier streams and

i explained it a lot

i explained it very thoroughly i'm not

gonna go down that rabbit hole again

yeah he started out as a philosopher

which freed him from philosophical

prejudices

that's what his humanism meant for marx

humanism didn't mean

i'm gonna create a specific arbitrarily

ideal humanity

that i want to conform to he literally

meant

being open to real material humanity in

some kind of way

that philosophers were previously

foreclosed to

that's what allowed marx to write

capital without being weighed down by

philosophical baggage

but people don't read marks and they

don't care about reading marks and

finding meaning in marx's words

they like to gloss over marks like oh he

was just talking about a bunch of

incomprehensible bullshit

it's so stupid i want to drag kevin

logan's ugly fucking deformed ogre face

through marx's early writings and see if

he can put together

the minimum of some kind of meaning

because i've never seen an anglo do that

ever

nonsense meaningless nonsense

it's a bunch of nonsense the oxford

scholars would never agree to this

nonsense

it's complete nonsense it's absolute

rubbish

absolute rubbish all mankind is rubbish

all mankind's history and philosophers

are rubbish

the arab philosophers are rubbish the

persian philosophers

rubbish all the philosophers in history

and rubbish the ancient greek

philosophers

rubbish everyone's a rubbish except me

everyone's a rubbish except stephen

pinker

everyone's a rubbish against noam

chomsky everyone's

rubbish against the contemporary

anglo-saxon retards

suck my dick

thoughts on i'm not going to answer that

little rubbish it's all rubbish it's all

rubbish everything's a little rubbish

everything's nonsense

expelliarmus shut the fuck up kevin

logan you bitch

you look fucking stupid to everyone but

you're fucking fans

it's all rubbish anything that doesn't

make sense to me

must be rubbish i couldn't possibly be

the one who's mentally handicapped

and who's not committing themselves to

passing through a meaning that's put in

ways unfamiliar to myself

i'm just going to say he doesn't know

what he's talking about and it's all

rubbish

but why didn't you say that in our

debate because i could have fucked you

and demolished you all you said was i

don't quite follow okay student you

don't quite follow

so hit the books but you didn't dare say

what i was saying was meaningless

because you're a pussy

you only said that afterwards

i shouldn't have been so fucking easy on

you

i shouldn't have been so fucking easy on

that guy

yeah it does bother me honestly even

though he's a nobody and he uses our

name for clout

when someone sent to me that in the

discord

i'm becoming racist against anglos but

i'm not

but like look at his face and look how

he talks

it's so disgusting it's so ugly and

disgusting

the ugliest most disgusting fucking guy

he's just full of fucking shit he's full

of nonsense

oh my god he nothing he say

is meaningful fucking bluffing bitch

the r word is ableist i don't give a

fuck fuck you

consider picking up mindfulness have you

ever considered picking up my balls

all right we got everything we got holy

shit time flies it's fucking 5

19. we're gonna talk to caleb in 30

minutes

damn does time fly

time flies when you're having fun

i honestly thought we would play some

dark souls before caleb but i don't

think we're gonna have time

um but i got dark souls 3 downloaded

everyone who mocks me and is like

reacting to our debates mocking me and

shit

you're gonna be embarrassed you're gonna

be super embarrassed i do know what i'm

fucking talking about by the way i

actually do

so when you mock me just because it's

not familiar to you you look stupid

by the way you look fucking stupid

i promise you i promise you

a lot of people know what i'm talking

about

did you see this

and i am taking your viewers by the way

i am taking your viewers one way or

another

i am more entertaining than you they

will like me better than they like you

even if they're not willing to admit it

now i'm simply more entertaining than

you and i have better content than you

you want to keep talking about nothing

you want to get back to substance

and you all you fucking do listen bitch

if you want to cut me off

you have to be the alpha male you're not

an altimeter you're a little better boy

you're not going to cut me off in a

debate

so if you want to speak over me if you

want to speak over me when i'm trying to

explain a point

you better have the fucking bars to back

it up you don't you little soy boy cock

so shut the fuck up and let me speak

when you have this discussion otherwise

you're not gonna win this game of

dominance

you're not gonna win this game of

dominance little boy you're not

everything i said was true right

it was all true

it was true it was true let's go back to

our main show

we got maybe some things to react to

before caleb

i don't know i kinda i'm gonna sit for

caleb's converse for the conversation

with caleb but i just have a lot of

energy right now

how about we test dark souls before

caleb

let's test dark souls

let's just like see if it works you know

let's just check if it works

oh my god this webcam is so fucked up

it's so wobbly i have to buy a new one

we're going to test dark souls before

caleb

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okay

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um

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i can't play music because it's twitch

oh man twitch man

twitch is super tough guys twitch is

super

tough twitch is super tough

we're gonna like check it out for like

20 minutes

then we're gonna talk to caleb

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memory could not be written what does

that mean

oh shit

guys did it stop working

fuck i'm gonna have to it

the dark souls just crashed my stream

hold on

saved saved

saved saved

dude should i i don't know if i should

start dark souls there just might not be

any fucking memory

let me check task manager yeah memory is

at 52 percent right now so i got to end

some stuff

let's see what's taking up everything

uh this is tough

i i literally don't have memory

all right exit page

microsoft edge is fucking crashing

beep

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me

yes i'm using edge dude how many i'm

okay i'm gonna look up how much ram do

you need for dark souls 3

might crash again how much ram does dark

souls 3 need

eight gigs yeah dark souls needs

all eight gigs of my ram i can't play

dark souls i just can't

that is super fucked that is super

fucking cursed

that's super fucking cursed super cursed

dude

i have to exit out of discord and i

can't afford to do that

fuck my pc guys every pc is fucking sold

out

beep beep climbers

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and it's me i can't fucking sing it

dude fuck this computer and fuck this

webcam i gotta buy a new pc and new

webcam all the fucking pcs

are sold out though did you shave for

caleb no i shaved

much earlier my computer can't

have any more ram my computer can't fit

more ram that's the problem my

motherboard's a piece of shit

can't even fit more ram

yeah i can't even fit more ram on this

fucking pc

i'm not shaved it's just that it's sunny

and i'm not shaved what are you talking

about

build my own pc i don't want to do that

i just don't play minecraft

we can play something but this sucks

dude i didn't know fucking dark souls

dempsey does dark souls used all eight

gigs of ram

does dark souls use eight gig ram

is that 16 gigs is fucking garbage

okay well reddit doesn't work reddit

doesn't even work

guys i can't even do anything about it i

can't even do anything about it and i'm

saying can't we do nothing about it

you're not saying infrared is back

infrared is back in the game you know

what i'm saying we got caleb coming on

in 30 minutes

30 minutes you know what i'm saying 30

minutes you know i'm saying

30 minutes you know what i'm saying what

should we do in these 30 minutes i think

we should play halo just to chill

let's just chill and play some halo so

we wait for caleb

we're gonna chill with some halo i

really wanted to play dark souls though

i really wanted to play dark souls i'm

going to be honest guys we're going to

play halo to pass the time

halo did crash but i'm going to disable

the anniversary edition

and that should do it i think that

should do it

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by coming buddhists

no i'm not gonna draft caleb gay caleb

has his own style okay you gotta respect

his style

okay it can't just be us

guys i'm fucking crazy like if you guys

ever notice i'm fucking crazy

you can't just beat me dude caleb's a

normal guy we need normal people

can't just be like a guy like me no one

will take us

like people take us seriously but

we have to like have serious people you

know

like i make an ass to myself i don't

care i admit it viewers on twitch went

down

call them bitches left you know i'm

saying no one takes you seriously sorry

okay uh gorillas and sons in the chat if

star slice is wrong gorillas and sons in

the chat i just want to do a test

gorillas and sons in the chat if star

slice is wrong

let's do a democracy since you believe

in democracy you dumb bitch

you stupid fuck oh these are all my cult

members though right

fucking idiot dumb bitch so are they

nobody

they're nobody star slice you dumb fuck

you look stupid as shit

you look like stupid as fuck right now

you know that

yeah you don't i don't care if you do or

not

you said no one does you think i give a

fuck what you think

fuck you i don't give a fuck what you

think

she thinks i give a fuck or he thinks i

give a fuck whatever they are

i don't give a fuck what you think

actually think i give a fuck yeah look

at them cope in that chat

look at them cope so much copium so much

copium they're smiling with that copium

oh they're copium oh they're copium

dumb bitch cuck

draft zizek i gotta talk to jijic in

private

not in public if i ever talk to zizek

you know beep beep kleiner's at the

elite

all these coping people see they are

coping can stop me

coping people can't stop me cope cope

all they can do is cope

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coping bitches try to debate me all they

do is lose something

coping bitches try to debate me they

are coping so hardly they are

coping so much yes i call this rising of

course this

is fucking rising you dumb fuck of

course this is rising

coping people come to me every time they

regret

it coping people come to me

they are always coping coping people

come to me they are always crying cope

cope

all they do is get btford

coping people come on my chat then i

talk right down to them

hoping people come to chat then i

talk right down to them they feel

humiliated

and regret having ever come they are

coping now right in my chat

coping people cope to me all they do

is cope you see coping people come to me

all they do is cope to me coping people

in my chat all they do is come to me

and give me some extra extra views

they are talking shit in the chat but

whenever i invite em on they always

sound very

soy soy boys coping in my chat

all these soy boys in my chat coping

saving coping seething seething

and coping star slice is the

big biggest bitch in my chat

star slice is a sun soy fan and they got

btfo'd

how do you feel that we're back and

we're not going anywhere how do

how do you feel

how does it feel to know that we're not

going anywhere

how does it feel that your attempt to

get us banned

felt so miserably and we're back bigger

than ever

how does how does it feel bitch

oh my god can this game get any fucking

slower

can this game get any slower

change twitch category i will when i

guess you get into the game

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guess what if i had a good pc we'd be in

the game right now

my pc is sh shit hey

and they're all sold out they're all

fucking sold out

we're gonna break into this we already

got denims trying to you know

collab with us and shit nope

nope sorry denims you had your chance

sorry denims you had your chance what

i'm

what i was removed

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yeah denims who who

who and we're going to be on the the uh

the the real nimbo royale on thursday

possibly

wednesday we're going to be on that show

you know what i'm saying

possibly wednesday wednesday why the

fuck is my connection keep getting

interrupted

we might have to play campaign

we might have to play campaign

beep beep climbers at elite

um

build a pc it has to be from best buy

my connection was interrupted all right

i think it's because the

streaming is taking up too much internet

so

let me just try halo 3. maybe this will

work

yeah we're going to be back on that show

the real nimble you know what i'm saying

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no

you know i'm saying look at all these

twitch people look at all these twitch

people you know i'm saying look at all

these twitch people

these they look on twitch this week

they're all going to be reacting to us

infrared's name is going to be in the

title of all of these c

tier streamers because that's the only

thing that gets them clout

because we attract clout you know that

okay fuck we have to play campaign we

attract

clout above all

uh halo 2 anniversary

yeah i'm gonna resume we're gonna right

back

where we started from

right back where we started from

and dust up your giant nose why would

this crash

this bullshit crashed this fucking halo

never works

you attract bent bungs in your nose say

this bitch is still in my chat

hey wait wait star slice who has power

me or you

who has power hey and once you take a

five minute break

bitch i just want you to know who has

power you know

you have to be reminded you should know

your place

you should know your place you

understand know your place a little

bitch

talking shit in my chat but i ban you

and what can you do about it

what can you do about it nothing

nothing bitch mods every time you see

star slice

time them out for uh five minutes

don't ban them just keep timing them out

they need to know they're being

dominated in real time

they need to know they're being

dominated in real time

don't time them out um

damn dark souls really doesn't work

let's say let's put launch table again

beep beeper's at

look at the sun shining down upon me

peter pants off yeah i do dude check out

youtube

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star slice i can't hear you in the chat

i want to hear more what you have to say

star slice can you please type something

star slice what happened

wait guys what happened to star slice

stream tinder no dude

you need to go check another channel if

that's what you're looking for

you know what i'm saying wink wink wink

wink there's another guy who does that

it ain't me

i don't do that shit but uh

you know that halo 2 anniversary

campaign just don't work huh

what does work i don't have odst

um okay i swear multiplayer anything

literally anything how about that

game preset

any yeah i'll just do any fuck it

beep beep climbers at elite

wait where's star slice

where's star slice

20 minutes left oh my god

all this fucking game does is crash

fuck mcc dude i need a new pc really bad

and they're all sold out

and fuck mcc by the way fuck mcc

honest to god fuck mcc

and it's not even showing up on the task

manager so i can't even exit out of it

what a disaster dude what a disaster

okay exit out of it um

we have 20 minutes left

we can we can play oblivion it's like

the only game that works

could play half-life one oblivion or far

cry

far cry is boring though no one likes it

oblivion's kind of a late night game you

guys feel me

oblivion's a bit of a late night game

it's a bit of a late night game

hey political no it's not apolitical at

all there's nothing apolitical about it

dude

all right i'll admit i'll introduce now

i don't want to play living right now

all right we're going to try this one

more time but we're just gonna do a

campaign

everyone who said you weren't going to

game no

oh conser streaming 720p to conserve

connection

i might have to do that oh cause i have

to stream twitch

and youtube so that's why this shit has

given me a hard time

that's why

more thought slime reacts i don't want

to fucking

look at that fucking guy

you guys don't worry about our views our

views are only going up okay

don't worry about that shit we're here

you understand we here

don't worry don't look at the view

number don't worry about it

okay trust me trust me when i say

that this game froze again

this damn fucking game

halo the master chief collection end

task

there is a surprise game we could play

yes the game may destroy and crash obs

trust the process what's this youtube

video

oh we got a youtube video and i clicked

on it and nothing's happening

oh my god

bannerlord is 25 gigs i was going to

play bannerlord i thought i already had

it installed but

apparently not dude

maybe this game works this game actually

might work

caleb and 15. beep beep kleiner

elite

the video is not working

we need stalin's beatings why is

everyone spamming me

i doubt you'll run bannerlord

huh sage sage

sage i'm downloading something now but

it might take a little bit

it's gonna take yeah it's gonna take i'm

not two gigs out of nine gigs

and it's a surprise game

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you should try cloud gaming

now dude that'll fuck my internet

i only have a finite number of internet

you know

since the oxford school

it's complete nonsense it's absolute

rubbish

absolute rubbish all mankind's rubbish

history and philosophers are rubbish the

arab philosophers are rubbish

the persian philosophers rubbish all the

philosophers

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retards it's a bunch of

pogers fucking hilarious

it's fucking hilarious wait i got a

notification

play that and no i'm not going to play

the fucking anime game

we got to start getting some connections

on twitch i don't know nobody on this

shit you know what i'm saying

when you start getting some connections

on twitch i'm saying some connections

on twitch some connections on twitch

what always did someone try to spam us

17 messages were deleted what messages

they had china us

see what happens when you try to spam us

the game is downloading now guys

um

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i can't believe halo just doesn't

fucking work

rubbish what are you going to talk about

with maupin

a lot of things

youtube's not working cause uh my steam

is downloading this game we're at four

gigs out of nine gigs

for what happened to the talk shows i'm

gonna be back

who's bad bunny what does she think

about tankies

drama what she think about tankies wait

aren't we banned from her chat i think

i'm banned from her chat

pretty sure i'm banned from her chat

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oh my god right when youtube doesn't

work

we have to react as fuck god damn

youtube doesn't work i have to exit out

of this

emergency exit out of steam

we're gonna react to sansa's video

if it works sansoi's video let's see

a little bitch

i'm gonna watch it on stream if it works

um properties

youtube why doesn't this work

all right this fucking browser is not

working

what youtube doesn't work

okay i'm gonna try this again

microsoft edge seems to not work

it's not loading

open a different browser i might just

have to

why doesn't fucking edge work fuck

i can't even exit out of it

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chrome should work all right

prove it

okay we're gonna watch this now

this is 10 minutes

all right let's watch it

sansa is a political twitch streamer and

calls himself a democratic socialist so

i'm

kind of like i describe myself as like a

baby leftist i guess i'm like a prettier

like um honestly

it makes me trust you more that you're

not caught up caught up in all that dumb

shit

he puts up the so what dude i didn't

fucking know anything about you until i

researched you

afterwards bitch and you did fucking

call you with yourself a democratic

socialist

we're gonna send our reaction stream

back to him this is our

appearance of being an extremely woke

and politically correct guy these are

the same hyper-sensitive

cancer-culture-baiting virtue signaling

leftists you see on a regular basis

initially sons albert okay pretended

like he was acting in good faith

as just some curious guy who wanted to

know more about our views i guess like

uh

i'm like pretty new to like the online

yeah you were pretending

what you're this is debunking me i'm

literally describing your

how you were fucking pretending you

bitch you better make a new video

response you pussy because this one's

not going to cut it

kills fear uh it's like very interesting

for me to watch people like engage in

discourse and i'm not after shark he

does this every single time well you

know what i had a very simple

conversation yeah because i'm talking to

your chat and i could already fucking

detect

based on your chat that you were a snake

so my hostile attitude to you sansa

was fucking justified especially after

we exposed you

not want your fucking previous stream

saying you want us gone from the

platform

don't fucking act innocent you little

pussy

station with a guy yesterday i didn't

yell fucking once and his commenters

took that for weakness

i gotta bring it into your fucking

people mostly yeah

but it was justified wasn't it because i

could tell from your chat how they were

hostile to me

that all you were doing was talking shit

about me and you were acting polite

when i came on stream you could tell a

streamer

you could tell how they feel about you

based on how their chat feels about you

and this was proven and corroborated

because we have you clipped

saying you wanted us gone and

de-platformed

the fucking stream before respect

anything but violence you don't respect

anything but violence you're not human

beings you don't engage in fucking civil

conversations

all you know is violence that's all you

know true

um yeah so like when i talk to marxist

leninists um i

i i wonder about like the let me ask you

a question

are you interested open uh good faith

are you interested in hearing where i'm

coming from

i mean yeah that's why i'm talking to

you having faced off no you weren't

bitch

the fucking stream before you said you

want us to be fucking d platformed

fucking streamers like xander hall vosh

destiny and even lesser prominent ones

like socialism done left

you're asking me to locate a string of

words that applies to every single

circumstance and every possible fucking

way listen

okay and we did fucking destroy him

so what's your point dude everyone was

fucking wiped the floor with

um who do you think was a better fighter

never towards okay

no this was a fucking fragment from the

destiny thing you forgot about the

russian stuff dumb bitch

then real politically to you don't

fucking understand you don't understand

that just because objective is part of

objective and human belief is part of

the objective world that doesn't mean

that human

human beliefs yeah that was a critical

point

that he got wiped the fucking floor on

with now didn't he

didn't he he couldn't fucking respond

he had no response

proceeded to ambush me into having a

debate with him about so-called chinese

imperialism believe it whatever what you

want to do

i have work early in the morning you

wanted to turn up

yeah only casual conversation into a

debate you made it award you you did you

were the one that got upset about

something

what did i get upset about you fucking

escalating it into a debate is what i

got upset about and i caught you as a

snake and my fucking intuition

that you were a fucking snake was 100

corroborated

oh but you forgot about that part didn't

you because you turned it into a debate

how am i trying to

debate i just like questioned something

like the second do you have anything

challenging your world views your

fucking no it wasn't about challenging

my world view

you randomly fucking ambushed me with a

fucking article that i had no fucking

idea about

i didn't you didn't give me time to

research anything independently

you didn't give me time to prepare for a

debate you just fucking ambushed me with

some shit

without giving me any time to look at

what you were talking about

i wasn't even able to look at what you

were talking about

you fucking bitch you tried to ambush me

and that's proven by the fact that you

brought on your buddy dylan burns

you pussy mind he brought up evidence he

already prepared for

about matters i didn't have time to

investigate independently like a chinese

company's dealings with the sri lankan

government over reports

this was bizarre i i just had a link

thrown at me that like sri lanka wants

to undo

okay from your chat okay so you're

saying you weren't prepared for it it

was your chat doing it

okay so why are you just getting random

shit from your chat to throw at me then

you fucking moron

and you were fucking talking shit about

me because i was doing the same thing in

response to you

oh a deal to least the poor uh airport

to china for 99 years i managed to

pretty easily corner him and he found it

necessary to bring in a larger streamer

dylan burns to come to his aid

one second there's someone there's a

there's another stream or a large

streamer than i that wants to come in um

because he's uh he wants to elucidate on

this

um burns who's an expert on sweden well

he's a foreign policy guy

what am i gonna say no i don't back out

of shit bitch but you did still force

this upon me i'm not gonna fucking back

out

but don't fucking act like oh it was my

choice of course we're gonna have to

take any challenge that's thrown at us

on the spot because i want your chats to

know that we're gonna dominate you

like we do dominate you like that's

like what he's known for okay with my

educators this was probably the easiest

debate i've ever engaged in

so what i was screaming it was easy as

fuck

it was easy as fuck even though i was

yelling because you kept me up bitch

it was the easiest fucking debate i've

ever been in just because i was yelling

doesn't fucking

say anything about that about how easy

it was for me all you're talking about

is how pissed off i was at both of you

personally

because of how fucking stupid you were

if you keep on your mic

people could make problems i thought you

were a lawyer i hate them i hate lawyers

absolutely how is that a fucking own by

the way you you don't have to yeah you

can say i fucking hate

dude most lawyers probably hate lawyers

too

it's not a fucking own you're getting at

oh how ironic yeah dude that's how the

world works

and unambiguously demolished are you

saying that chinese ships have never

been to the

shield because that's an example of

chinese ships going over somewhere and

harassing your people

guess what kind of chinese claim that

has historical claims okay so who cares

i care i'm saying i care i'm sorry you

only care about what china thinks when

everybody else in the fucking world is

saying like no there's like really no

reason

because these people were so fucking

stupid in this debate and they

that's why they fucking got the floor

wiped with them they're so fucking

stupid

the whole point about china's historical

claims bearing significance isn't just

because

abstractly they have historical claims

it's the concrete substance and content

of those historical claims

before british colonialism in the

colonial era

the historical tradition was that

there had to be a fee based on respect

paying respect to the

uh the chinese civilization by

other civilizations and there was a

mutual understanding about how things

worked in the south china sea

the only thing that upset this balance

between civilizations

and this long-standing historical order

was british colonialism and european

colonialism

which completely fucking uh overthrew

and liquidated

the historical tradition and

and established a world order on a new

basis how were the british justified in

establishing that world order that

liberal world order

on which talks about blank check

sovereignty of states

you can't justify the primordial basis

of that world order in the first place

so that's the substance and content of

the fucking historical claim

that's why it fucking matters you

fucking idiot

filipinos yeah

but guess what those people for better

or worse

like i already watched the fucking

debate it's on his channel i already

covered this

yeah exactly these other countries have

you had to put text dude you got blown

the fuck out

the right to uh under other countries

are operating under the american-led

global order like vietnam

yes it is no here dude you're a fucking

idiot if you don't know about the fact

that vietnam aligned itself with the us

with the tpp trade deal against china

encircling china

maybe it's different right now as we

speak but yes

dude this idiot doesn't know about the

softening of u.s vietnam relations on

the basis of antagonism toward china

you're a fucking idiot dude you don't

know anything about the recent history

of geopolitics

the vietnam versus to the extent of

vietnam's opposing china yes so any

country that possesses china is just a

shield from that world order they're not

doing it for their own sovereignty

it's not what i

yes dude that's not what i fucking meant

that's not what i fucking meant i didn't

it's not necessarily that they're a

shill

directly but yes they are benefiting

from us-led

world order that's why i said to that

extent yes

you fucking bad faith bitch was for both

of them they decided to derail the

conversation in order to mock me and

abuse me personally

you know western anglo-retarded rotted

brain these two failed

yeah yeah yeah and why did i say that

why did i start saying that huh

the chance against me so now we find

ourselves in a situation where it's 1v9

so what yeah you were trying to fucking

personally attack me

and you got fucked up are you giving us

the rights to this place

i was overwhelmed with an impassioned

rage the type of people sansa

a supposedly left wing and woke streamer

brought on were almost all decidedly

sociopathic and amoral personalities

that's why i'm like asthma do you think

that like holladamor is um

yeah yeah so that makes me sociopathic

because i'm denying fucking propaganda

about the soviet famine of 32 and 33.

the whole fucking point is that it's a

lie that doesn't fucking mean i'm

personally sociopathic

meanwhile the way you and fucking all

those people were acting in that call

betrayed a personality of a fucking

sociopath

you stupid bitch you think that just

because you disagree with me on a

historical subject

that's a blank check and that's a

warrant to act like a fucking sociopath

and dismiss me as a human being

you're a fucking idiot you fucking

dumbass you're used to doing that with

conservatives who have the most minor

disagreements with you

and dehumanizing them on that basis it's

not gonna fly with me

bitch it is a thing like genocide or

anything like that these are like the

biggest things right now that

we can talk about if you mean there's an

intentional genocide of ukrainians yes

it's a lie

regarding weaker genocide yes it's a lie

decidedly sociopathic and any moral

what is so amoral or sociopathic about

that

have you ever bothered to actually

contest uh

contest my point

caleb's gotta come i gotta maybe we can

finish this

but i wanna have this be one clip so

let's finish it one of these streamers

going by the name of pogerboy24 on

discord a close associate of son sols

decided that since his favorite streamer

failed to defeat infrared in the debate

that he was going to directly attempt to

get our stream banned off of twitch

yeah that wasn't unread though just

because there's a line there doesn't

mean you didn't read it you fucking

idiot

it's on stream he's trying to say that

because this red line is here this

proves it wasn't red

you're a fucking liar you're a fucking

liar

we see your eyes looking down and

looking at it

he's actually transcended language watch

the cursor

yeah it's right down there so you're

saying you couldn't see what was below

the red line

you couldn't see what's below the red

line

red line is there that means it isn't on

my screen yeah exactly what a liar

trying to communicate with that's right

yeah and just like okay let's read the

time

3 27 a.m this is 4 a.m you're a liar

dude

this was 30 minutes later after it was

too late first you brought him on to do

this

after he did the job you tried to cover

your fucking ass

you fucking liar is he in the chat

sansoi's in the chat just so like this

will be like the last time i

uh i say this right now because like i

have a segment planned out to like

address all of this but just for

mr kadaffi's um benefit here you saw

parker voice commenting he will spam

porn demand infrared and you add him

right after yeah no i don't like when

that screen

came out i was like i don't remember

seeing that shit um i am like super open

when i uh

you're a liar we caught you though we

caught you on screen there's nothing you

could do to worm your way out

i'm disappointed or if i want to ban

someone i'll give like the exact reason

so i'll be like 100 uh transparent with

that like i fucked up by not reading

that message that's on me right

you did read it we caught you reading it

just because there's a red line doesn't

mean you can't see it

it's on me it just means you didn't see

it before that's how it works on discord

you're such a fucking liar to then ban

that person from my community because

that's like fucking shitty behavior and

i

won't tolerate that shit right so um

yeah i don't know how the fuck i missed

it when i first opened up the thing i

think that my eyes were up here the

comment was down there well i guess you

guys can see me pointing the screen but

um yeah

i just added it without reading that

part of it um oh you how could you not

have read it when you just admitted your

cursor was right fucking next to it

you fucking liar yeah meanwhile i

managed to smuggle in a few infrared

people into the call a heated discussion

was proceeding about china and one of

our members being from china themselves

wanted to chime in watching the

following clip the way in which sansa's

friends decided to treat him behind

closed doors

i i think it's pretty basic i think it's

sweet

it's pretty basic i don't know i didn't

listen to the whole thing but it's the

general content okay if you didn't

listen to the whole thing like you don't

get an opinion

you fucking idiot he wasn't stuttering

because he had a disability

but because english was his second

language everyone sees how

self-evidently fucking racist

your bitch friend samantha's conduct was

what are you doing bitch like your

friends are stuttering dumb shit they're

the first ones to jump on board with

canceling people

there's nothing to do with stuttering

you try to worm your way out of the

racism

by just saying oh i was being ableist

which is slightly less cancelable

what a fucking lie the most minor of

offenses

okay and look what you were fucking

doing

hey listen english isn't my favorite

pitch

bring it back

you should love me you fucking genocide

okay so what

so what i meant was that hypothetically

in an abstract situation that is beyond

the realm of possibility

you fucking idiot prove i meant

otherwise

yeah what genocide i'm still saying what

genocide i'm still

saying what genocide what weaker

genocide that makes me a sociopath

because i'm questioning your fucking

sources

you fucking idiot what genocide there is

none

you can't win in a debate about me with

this you can make a response video

trying to do your best to pull up

sources

which is what you're going to do but in

a one-on-one debate i will knock your

sources down

one by one i stayed in that call until

everyone else left around 9am

you might think that is crazy but i

wanted to make a point

sansa doing fuck

is attempting to dig dirt on us and even

alluded to planning on spamming our

discord with illegal material

didn't happen but i have the recording

of you guys alluding to it so we're

gonna maybe i'll release that and we'll

see

i ironically don't understand what is

happening in this picture don't worry

he said he has a copy so let's see if he

linked it

okay he admitted he has it okay

link to the full vod all right download

this vod guys

download this fucking vod download this

vod

download this vod

download this vod

downloads vod okay i'm sorry caleb i'm

so sorry dude

i'm so sorry um

all right let me open up chrome

edge i mean it's where my email is

logged in

alright let me zoom

okay um

all right shit

all right

okay

um

all right

all right

um okay let me see invite

copy invite link right i sent him the

link now

all right let me set this up so

window capture

properties um zoom meeting

okay

main show what is going on

all right

oh it's down here okay

it's down here

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hold on guys i'm fixing the zoom

actually oh man he's not going to be

able to see me though

um

trying to capture this hold on he's in

the

thing

why isn't why is zoom not working

properties zoom meaning okay this works

uh remove yes

zoom

okay here we go this is it this is it

right here

all right take this oh wow look how big

the zoom is

jesus

damn dude what happened all right

transform

fit to screen what the fuck look at this

flip vertical

fuck

flip horizontal okay and then we're

gonna bring this down

and we're gonna bring this down here

okay i think this is it

all right um

all right let me remove the video

capture device

remove or maybe i could just disable it

properties deactivate

okay this now it works okay sorry guys

for this technical difficulties starting

the video

right sorry for those technical

difficulties guys

it's good it's working

there we go all right

oh my god damn it dude

everything fucks up

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okay damn it man

this is such bad luck and bad timing

that sansa released this video

all right fuck okay i think i got it all

right

hi hey what's up i'm really sorry about

this

technical difficulty stuff i just yeah

um

oh can you hear me you're muted i can't

hear you

oh shoot sorry sorry about that

i'm really sorry about this uh technical

difficulty stuff it's

it's been a rough day all good i got

plenty of unnamed diet beverage right

here so

yeah that's cool um

so what's up i think i just saw on

twitter you were uh you were talking

with like galloway in them

just now yeah went on george galloway's

show um

it's evening for them but it was

afternoon over here uh just a nice

afternoon chat about what's been going

on in us politics

i've seen you've been uh you've been

doing your usual thing and uh

btf owing uh some uh

to get in your twitch stream so there

you go right

yeah yeah i mean um

yeah it's pretty much um

it's pretty much the fact that you know

the way i i like to see it is that

if you look around now and see what are

people's main

barrier to entry to becoming or you know

being associated with

socialism and all this kind of stuff and

unfortunately right now the people

monopolizing that

are what is called um loosely bred tube

right

they're really defining what it means to

be a socialist right now in

america i think yeah

i mean it's shocking to me i mean the

communist and socialist movement has

been cursed by

reformists and sellouts you know for

since it's inception

what shocks me about these people is

that they've developed a model

that in no way challenges neoliberalism

um you know you watch these debates when

the reason foundation

and jacobin sit down and the reason

foundation repeats every anti-communist

lie

then the jacobin people get up and they

say oh that's all true and and we

totally agree we don't want state

socialism we just want to start a worker

cooperative with all our friends

and then the libertarians go oh we have

no objection to that go start your work

at cooperative we don't care

and so they both just kind of embrace

each other on this agreement that the

state should

leave americans out to dry and that's

what's happening right now i mean

you know you look at texas where the

power grid collapsed

i mean you look at so many people

unemployed i mean the state has an

obligation to intervene here

um and you know you go back through the

history of social democracy

all the reformists and sellouts

understood that you you know they at

least made

some demand but this idea that socialism

is just this

voluntary worker cooperative this has

been around for years

right collective capitalism cooperative

capitalism employee stock ownership

programs there's nothing revolutionary

about this right i mean

in a socialist society something like

huawei that's got

you know worker ownership and and such

profit sharing might be a good idea but

the notion that we shouldn't be

be demanding a government that fights

for the working families and that we

should just

you know be sitting back and and you

know begging you know some foundation to

give us money to start a worker owned

pencil factory

i mean it's really disturbing i mean

they've taken everything revolutionary

out of marxism

um and they've just turned it into a a

way that they can kind of celebrate

their liberalism

and keep fighting the culture wars and

that seems to be what they're really

concerned about is these culture wars

you know

um people can be left out starving and

hungry and you know the country can be

falling apart

uh but my my goodness don't say anything

that might be slightly

possibly perceived as transphobic you

know don't don't dare shake hands with

anyone who voted for donald trump

because that's what they're really

concerned about

they're waging this culture war you know

that you better be on the right side of

who cares if americans are suffering and

starving who cares if they launch a new

war against

china or against you know against the

iranians or

i mean it's it's ridiculous it's really

ridiculous i'm shocked at how

how horrifyingly liberal these people

are

yeah i mean um it's very bizarre

because the what it what appears to me

to be the situation with the so-called

american left

is that when it comes to the narratives

about history that you were talking

about

and when it comes to this you know this

culture war

nonsense where now don't get me wrong i

would like to take a you know the

progressive position i guess

when it comes to the culture war you

know i'm not myself a transphobic person

i don't think you are either

um but this idea that it's on the basis

of these

cultural differences that you're going

to completely declare

people you know enemies and drop

um points of distinction

like that you would like uh how should i

say

that they would use in war like an enemy

combatant or something

is absurd but what i think this all goes

down to

the common thread that unites all of

this

is the embedded and entrenched

institutional power

of the democrats the deep states the

people funding

all of these think tanks and foundations

and universities pushing propaganda and

lies

about the history of um

about the history of the 20th century

and the present

and you can now very clearly see that

the so-called american left presupposes

this

as its foundation it's its point it's

its um

point of departure and all it's doing is

creating this kind of

ornamentation supplementing it

but they're not actually fundamentally

challenging

these premises and i think what is so

imperative for anyone calling themselves

a socialist

even if they hold you know reformist

views

if you're going to call yourself a

socialist it is imperative that you

target

these fundamental premises that these

synthetic leftists

actually take for granted bolster and

ascribe ornamentation to them

yeah well i mean it's it's was pretty

big in my development

you know to to realize that you know

every day in the united

states whenever the topic of communism

comes up we are told well it failed

everywhere it's ever been tried

it just doesn't work i mean it's a good

idea but it just doesn't work look the

soviet union fell

clearly it just failed i mean it just

never worked anywhere

and that's so obviously false i mean

it's it's

you don't have to have a degree in

economics you don't have to be like a

historian to know it's false okay

look at russia before the communists

came in look at russia now

look at china before the communists came

in look at china now

look at cuba before the communists came

in look at cuba now i mean it's like

duh i mean it's so obvious who were the

first people in outer space

who defeated hitler uh you know i mean i

mean who who have the biggest power

plants

in the world and who you know who are

who have the biggest telecommunications

manufacturers in the world

800 million people in china lifted out

of poverty

um you know i mean i mean goodness

gracious i mean how do these people

how do these people believe this right

but it's just something you're told

over and over again in the united states

communism failed everywhere it's just

never accomplished anything it's never

got anything done

and they just drum this into your head

it's actually it's it's the big lie

you know in in hitler's mind comp he

talks about how like

people if you tell a little lie people

will question you but if you tell a

big lie a lie that is so huge

right and that people and you just

repeat it everywhere people

just can't fathom that it wouldn't be

true and this this lie about communism

never achieved anything i mean it was

just completely unworkable

that's such a lie it is such a lie

um and and once you take that apart

everything falls down like a house of

cards but this lie is so

central to what they believe and that's

why i'm a tanki that's why i will not

disavow being a tanki that's why i'm

proud to be a tanki because i think you

have to be a tanki if you're going to

believe in socialism in the united

states you have to be a tanker you have

to go up against this

it comes up in every debate you know

that bernie sanders is on there i think

that we should raise

the minimum wage to 15 dollars an hour

because we need to do that and then the

the person interviewing will be well

what about stalin i mean stalin tried to

you know crazy people's wages and

millions of people died and they all

starved and it was miserable oh we can't

do that or it was stalin and mao and pol

pot

and you know and and i mean it's just

like if you can't go up against this

basic

narrative the myth of the 20th century

you can't go up against that you really

have nothing to stand on all economic

discourse in the united states centers

around this big lie

and if we can't combat this big lie uh

we got nothing so i i'm a tanki i'm a

tanki until the end

you know and and that's the fact look if

you want to talk about a system that's

failed everywhere it's ever been tried

try neo-liberalism right the the idea

that we should just

cut government spending right we can cut

our way into economic growth right

there's

magical thinking that if you just if you

cut the jobs of government workers

you lower you know subsidies you you cut

off social programs for low-income

people magically the economy just starts

to do better because

taxes go down or something well they

look at the soviet union after the fall

of the soviet union

they tried that and it completely

destroyed the place they tried that in

chile under pinochet

and it completely destroyed the place

they tried that in bolivia they tried

that in venezuela like every south

american country tried that in the 90s

it destroyed the place

and we've been doing that here in the

united states for decades and the

country is falling apart not

surprisingly so

you know you want to talk about an idea

that's failed everywhere it's ever been

tried

it's funny because i say that you know

everything they say about us

is actually true about libertarians

right you know libertarians you say to

them hey you know

chile was destroyed by your policies uh

you know people have been you know we've

had capitalism for hundreds of years we

haven't ever produced this free market

utopia they want

what do they say oh this was real

capitalism right it was real capitalism

right and and then you know and then you

say to them oh you know pinochet and how

many people

30 percent unemployment children

starving they don't care how many people

have to die

in order to carry out their ideological

project profit

must rule greed is good and they really

do not care about the

pile of dead bodies that their system

has produced

everywhere neo-liberal free-market

economic reforms are implemented

the country falls apart it's wrecked

this happened with the british empire

back in the 1800s they did it in india

they did it in china

they did it in country after country

after country um you know and it

happened once again in our time when

this adam smith psychopathy

that they call economic teaching uh you

know became introduced around the world

and it's horrifying to me because if

you're against capitalism this is what

you're against

right you're against this notion that we

should we should leave the

basic important things people depend on

like jobs and healthcare and education

to the magic of some invisible hands you

know i mean that's complete

i mean that's completely what you should

be opposed and the fact these bread

tubers you know they don't even have the

courage to stand up to that it's like oh

we agree with that we just want to make

a worker cooper it's like it's like

give me a break give me a break the

emperor has no clothes

he's walking around naked and it takes

you know you and me and

and the rest of you know the tankies of

this world to stand up and say it the

emperor has no clothes he's walking

around naked he looks like a fool the

cut the world is on fire

and there's an obvious solution which is

you know reviving

statecraft the notion that the

government has a duty to serve the

people

right um you know i mean this is this is

pretty basic right the notion that

that the government shouldn't just set

back and let the country fall to

shambles but we should instead have a

government that fights

for working families build up the

country make people

smarter don't make people stupider right

make

people more industrious you know unleash

people's creativity and talents

how many people are sitting at home

right watching this now are full of so

much potential

right they're ready to go out and work

uh you know they they

they've got a degree maybe they got

student debt they've got so much they

could go out and do but because some

capitalists can't make money from hiring

them they're stuck

you know and they're stuck you know

living a life where they you know

they're

stuck in low-wage jobs they feel useless

their family's on their ass saying hey

you know when are you going to get to

get your life together i mean it's a

tragedy

right it's a tragedy what this system

has done many young people are angry

about it

and it seems like there's this big

effort now to make sure that the only

people that

that are able to capture that anger are

the alt-right and white supremacists

that's basically what red tube is trying

to do

they're trying to say that if you talk

about economic suffering

you must be a nazi right that's class

reductionism

right that's what they're trying to do

they're giving a huge gift right you

know it's like there's millions of young

people that are angry about

economic issues and redtube is saying

you know what up you know you know

richard spencer and

neo-nazis you can have them you can have

them right and we're going to

castigate and shame anyone in our

movement

who tries to actually address these

issues um and we're just going to hand

all those people to you here you go it's

a beautiful gift you know vosh

skippy the bear thought slime whatever

you want to call him right uh

what is this the surfer kid surfing usa

whatever that loser is

right these people are the best friend

actual white supremacist and neo-nazis

ever had by making working-class people

that are

angry and want economic justice uh

basically feel like they don't belong

in in the socialist movement to make

socialism part of a war

on working-class people not something

mobilizing them to fight for their

rights that's a huge gift

to actual nazism and actual fascism no

question about it

right if i was richard spencer if i was

the white nationalist and white

supremacist i would be paying these

clowns to be on there representing

socialism i mean they are every

caricature every caricature that the

right makes about

about socialist and communist that's not

real socialism oh you're

an and you're a racist you know people

are racist

right obviously you know but if you just

call somebody a racist right if you just

say

you're racist you haven't accomplished

anything prove to them that they're a

racist show them how their position

is racist right show them how they're

wrong but if you just call somebody a

name

you've accomplished nothing right in the

real world you know if you just call

somebody an ist

or a phobe you haven't accomplished

anything you know i mean this this

cancel culture it's juvenile it's

childish it's thought-stopping it's

trying to prevent people from really

engaging

with the issues that you and i talk

about on our streams that's what's going

on i've had it up to here with bread

tube with jacob with all these phonies

right we need a government of action to

fight for working families

yeah you know um that was really you

know you took the words right out of

them

but uh uh you know one of the one of our

taglines of our kind of new brand

is marxism leninism in the age of

multi-polarity

and one of the things that i think is so

um important important about that is the

things you've mentioned about

the way in which the history of the 20th

century and even the contemporary

world is distorted um

by this establishment and these

institutions

well you'd a lot of people look at guys

like me and you and they say these are

these are ideologists right they're

ideologues but if you just go to russia

and you just go to china and talk to

random people on the street

they're going to tell you things and

they're going to express

beliefs without any ideological barrier

to entry whatsoever

that completely contradict like

you'll realize just how much we here in

america have this ideological bubble

imposed upon us whereas for other people

they live and breathe

like it's nothing without having to have

any brainwashing whatsoever

basic self-evident

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basic normal they get on with their

lives normally without having to care

about any of this kind of

myth making so it's quite staggering you

know you don't have to be this kind of

ideologue who just fanatically believes

in marxism leninism like

um you know as some kind of

evangelist or some kind of you know

psychotic

uh the element of multi-polarity to us

is basically just

humbling oneself as an american just to

learn from other people's perspectives

and just doing that alone

will give marxism leninism and openness

and a richness

that can that's easily contrasted to the

type of larping

and kind of cultural nonsense that is

kind of typical

to a lot of people identifying with it

here in the states

another thing i'm really glad you

mentioned is how

talking about being you know tankies or

whatever and defending the record

when it comes to lies and distortions

being put about the history of the

soviet union and china and elsewhere

has a decisive and practical

significance

even to the real existing progressive or

i don't know if the progressive cause is

dead

in america per se uh like i mean the one

that opposed obama for medicare for all

stuff but

something vaguely like that it has

decisive significance

um a lot of these bred to people who

were approaching me by saying

well by calling yourself an ml

you're you know scaring people away and

i tell them

if they're willing to call joe biden a

communist

you have to own up to this history and

you have to give a counter narrative to

the one the establishment is giving

if you don't have a counter narrative

you're you're proving you're not you're

not able to build up a counter force

to their actual power that prevents us

from having

a 15 minimum wage and medicare for all

and things like that

um and you know this whole thing about

the neoliberal austerity politics

this synthetic left as you mentioned

with cancer culture

perfectly supplements this logic that

somehow as human beings there's too much

of us

in the world we're doing we're being in

the world

all a bit too much and we have to kind

of limit ourselves

with political correctness and we have

to um

we have to feel guilty about the fact

that we like hamburgers and

we have to eat v you know it's all this

kind of um

it's kind of the same pathology and it's

a fundamental

deep rooted malthusianism i think

uh that the synthetic left is especially

is is reinforcing but i mean at the

level of government it's self-evident

that

the neoliberal establishments and

ideologists for decades and decades

despite all the you know failures that

that you're talking about they were able

to ignore that just because of how

ideologically potent

this idea that you know we need to feel

guilty

about our humanity we have to

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where there's too much of us in the

world we have to cut cut back we have to

always feel guilty we can't

we can't have a sense of um the

realization of our latent potentials and

power and the unleashing of the forces

of production

so to speak um i think this

corresponds if i were to sum it up to

some type

of objective decline of

liberalism and to me this decline of

liberalism has led it to some kind of

state of self-contradiction and

psychosis sure i mean there's a lot that

i can react to

i mean as for as far as like the mindset

here in the west you know

my whole life i've heard people say this

is the greatest country in the world

this is the greatest country in the

world this america is the greatest

country in the world

and if you so much as ask people you

know how did you come to this conclusion

are you saying we have the most money or

you

and they look at you like you must be

brainwashed you don't think america is

the greatest country in the world you

must be brainwashed

you know what i mean and you go around

like people in this country can't find

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screen just blanked out

uh hello hey hey i'm here

this stream might have a good thing i

recorded this conversation but

let me see neat's feet go live again

oh what what happened stream is working

the stream is fine okay then my my obs

has frozen

uh it's completely frozen um

i think this might be a problem with

microsoft edge

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all um um okay just go okay okay

yeah obs has frozen completely

but if it's still working we can okay

yeah

all right sorry about that um yeah

sorry about that no it's just i mean we

can't find our country on a map

i mean the education is so low here um

and we're told that all around the world

these people that are in

anti-imperialist countries they're all

just brainwashed you know they've all

just been brainwashed but it's like they

can find their country on a map

they understand the views that that

americans have

and they also understand the views of

their own government and they can

compare them whereas

here in the united states people have no

idea about about the opposing viewpoints

around the world so

i mean this this this brainwash hysteria

in the united states is quite ridiculous

i mean it's a huge amount of projection

uh that's what i would say about that

and that yeah i mean you know and when

you talk about the you know the need to

not be

you know just kind of you know overly

ideological look there's plenty that we

need to learn

i think the cultural revolution in china

was a disaster i think deng xiaoping's

economic reforms were absolutely

necessary

i think that there are non-marxist

feminist forms of socialism in the world

like baathist arab socialism like

boldivarianism um and that you know we

don't need to get bogged down in like

the really

really nitpicky ideological debate to

the 20th century right

uh you know who is better enverjosia or

you know or

i mean i i don't get i'm kind of done

with that kind of stuff you know

um but but at the same time you know we

can learn the lessons right i mean

you know i tell people that you know i

mean if we want to make a better country

right if some other country was making a

good car we would look into it right if

somebody if some other country was

making a uh

you know a more efficient way of

developing energy we would look into it

so why wouldn't we look into a better

political and economic model

um you know and that we should study all

of it but blindly follow none of it and

try to figure out a model that can work

for this country and how we can get

ourselves

out of the crisis over here um and when

you talk about malthusianism you know

really what it gets down to is this

right it's

you got to imagine a game right a game

of king of the mountain where you know

every every kid's trying to get to the

top of the hill

so one kid gets to the top of the hill

and he announces oh game over i'm at the

top of the hill that's what

malthusianism is right

the the western imperialists they

control the oil markets that's their

main way of dominating things is with

the oil markets right we have an

oil-based economic order so they're at

the top of the hill and they've

announced oh you know

our fuel source oil that we happen to

control is polluting the world so you

know what human development has to end

here

while we're at the top of the mountain

we'll stay at the top of the mountain

and we'll stay on oil we're going to

keep an oil-based economy but everyone

needs to stop developing because we're

at the top of the hill

and that's what's basically uh basically

been announced that's that's the

malthusian

viewpoint right that there's just oh you

know human history human history must

stop

because we're we're ahead right we put

while you're ahead well we're ahead

we're at the top

we're winning the game so uh human

history game over

right and what's particularly eerie

about that is that it's just kind of a

basic need of human beings to survive is

human beings

want to grow right human beings want to

expand

they want to have more than they had

before they want to work hard for

something they want to have a family

they want to have children

but when you introduce the malthusian

pessimism into the conversation and you

say well

we all have too much and we all need to

be poorer

uh you're basically with those words

you're basically

trying to kill people i mean that's what

depression is the mental illness of

depression

right when people cannot go forward they

lose their will

their drive to go out and do things in

the world their body just kind of shuts

down that is

that is depression that is what drives

people to become suicidal and so when

they announce you know

every day it's coming out of your cell

phone every day out of your cell phone

out of your computer

the malthusian you know there is no

future there's too many people in the

world human beings are a cancer

uh mother this stuff is it is actively

killing people it is toxic

it is poisonous and what the nature of

humanity human beings are tool makers

we're creative creatures we have the

ability to march forward into advance

and

and because they're at the top they've

announced that we can't advance anymore

look

climate change is a reality i don't deny

climate change the answer to climate

change is obviously getting off of

fossil fuels

we need a higher fuel source we need

fusion energy i mean when vladimir putin

called for international cooperation

china russia and the united states to

come together to get fusion energy like

yesterday

that is what needs to be said we need

fusion energy we need to get off of the

trap of

of the oil markets and and natural gas

and all that we need to get into a

higher

higher mode of technology plus we need

to start you know

expanding into outer space look china's

already getting helium-3 from the moon

um you know we need to figure out how to

extract resources from mars we need to

figure out how to

how to not limit humanity to just this

planet right i mean we are

we need to start exploring stuff um you

know

before john f kennedy was killed kennedy

was bad in a lot of ways before he was

killed

a lot of people don't know this he

called for there to be a joint moon

mission between the usa and the soviet

union you imagine that right and he

wanted the soviet union

and the united states to team up to go

to the moon not a space race but a space

cooperation

imagine if something like that could be

arranged today that's that's the kind of

thinking we need

right we need progressive thinking not

this game over

economic pessimism there is no future

stuff and

you know it's one thing in the first

world to say oh we've got too much i

don't agree with that i don't think we

have too much i think a lot of working

families around here are suffering

but to go to people in africa with a

much lower life expectancy we've never

had running water and never had

electricity and say oh you need to stay

poor

uh because of mother earth that is the

height of like you know you want to talk

about white privilege and

and and arrogance and i mean it is it is

pretty unbelievable you know you can't

hold back economic development you can't

human beings want more than they already

have they want to advance and we're not

in this to make people poor

i don't know where people got this

notion the memo was sent out communists

want everyone to be poor because

capitalism is people having a lot of

stuff and communists are against that

they want to make everyone poor

that is not true at all right the goal

of socialism is to build a world with so

much prosperity

and abundance that we don't need a

government right you know that we can

eventually get to

a level of material abundance where all

inequality can be broken down

the need for the state can go away

people can just kind of do what they

need and

take what they need and do what they

want to do and you know from each

according to his own ability to each

according to his needs

that is the ultimate vision of marxism

right it is it is

the height of progressivism human

progress

and the drive of human beings what got

us from you know being hunted gatherers

living in caves to

making iphones and space travel that is

behind marxism leninism

this is not a reactionary ideology it's

not a pessimistic ideology

it is about the human spirit and how

human beings can conquer

any challenge facing them it believes

that human beings can march forward

and move ahead that is that has always

been what marxism is about what these

people are pushing this destructive

pessimistic cancel culture stuff

this is not marxism i'll tell you that

much now in my book on kamala harris i

talked about the roots of it right and

that

you know in a feudal society right uh

people are very controlled

and the bourgeoisie in order to bring

down feudalism they gave people

permission to unleash their impulses

their impulses toward anger

their impulses towards sexual uh release

right and that the french revolution was

an explosion of sex and rage

right the peasantry that had been very

controlled were given permission

to just you know chop off people's heads

and and and celebrate

but also permission to unleash their

sexual desires the marquis assad was a

big figure in the french revolution

um and that the bourgeoisie in order to

take power they unleashed people's

impulses right

um and you know marxism came out of the

aftermath of the bourgeois revolutions

the disappointment right that

the bourgeois revolutions didn't create

a just society right

and so marxism kind of held with it that

that belief that

in order to in order to bring down the

old social order we need to unleash

impulses unleash people's rage etc

and that kind of the the psychology of

the bourgeois revolution kind of carried

over

but right now the capitalists they're

doing that right they're giving people

permission to unleash their rage they're

giving people permission to unleash all

their impulses and be as angry as they

want and be

destructive and all of that meanwhile if

you look at the strength of china you

look at the strength of countries around

the world that are building socialism

it's not their ability to tell people to

unleash their impulses

that holds them together it is the

opposite it's they give people a sense

of community

a sense of purpose a sense of joint

effort and and almost that feeling that

sigmund freud condemned that feeling of

religiousness and

oneness with the universe right and if

you look at what stalin did during his

five-year plans

you look at at what was achieved uh you

know in many countries what

gaddafi did when he built the the great

man-made river you know the biggest

irrigation system in the world

right it's about giving people a sense

of community giving people something to

be part of not just giving them

permission to unleash their rage and

their destructive impulses i got into

all of that in my book on kamala harris

because

it needs to be said i talk about that in

my my city builders and vandals and our

age

that we need to kind of rethink the the

psychology of what is it we're appealing

to

with marxism are we just giving people

permission to go out and break shit

or are we telling people that the

capitalists have broken the world

and we're going to start rebuilding it

yeah i mean um i really like how you

mentioned uh the whole

um the game of uh first one up up the

hill

and i actually think that also applies

internally to the west as well it's not

a

it's not an accident that the people who

are pushing this whole cancel culture

you know fake wokeness and dumb

political correct stuff

these are the elites that made it to the

top

they are white people and they're

telling the rest of the white masses

you know oh you got you know you have to

feel bad and feel guilty

and um oh well that's quite convenient

because you already made it to the top

and you're kind of securing your

position against the majority of the

people

in your own country so it's not just uh

that they're that they're telling um

other countries to do this which they

definitely are

it's also all connected you know and i

think an important thing

for us is to be able to show concretely

make those connections

between us imperialism and um

uh this internal rule of this oligarchy

these

this deep state and this

institutionalized

kind of professional managerial however

we would call them

elites um

it's interesting you mentioned the whole

thing about uh the bourgeoisie as

unleashing uh

unleashing people's um

passions so to speak you know uh it's

interesting because

there's a utopian socialist like fourier

if

i don't know if i'm kind of lost fourier

i believe specifically

talked about socialism in this way is

this kind of way of

regulating these boundless and crazy

types of

you know urges and passions and emotions

in society and you can kind of see how

with the current american synthetic left

they're kind of going up that alley as

well where they're

the main aesthetic behind them is really

about

it's really about how to um

it's a it's a certain way of expressing

yourself

uh not just in terms of having definite

concrete political positions

um but this kind of cultural posturing

and just a way for people to

you know um

way to people to channel their kind of

urges and

i don't know like to what extent would

be appropriate to discuss

this but i don't know if you're familiar

with how on

bread tube a lot of these content

creators the way in which they interact

with their own communities

um you know on discord and elsewhere

it's that we kind of

see a lot of predatory and um disturbing

behavior you know

so yeah well i mean i don't know i don't

know if you want to get into specifics

about that or not but i think it's it's

a symptom of

of this problem right um and that

you know if you look at you know and

i've talked about this it's like this

taboo in leftist circles you cannot talk

about the congress for cultural freedom

well i'm going to talk about the

congress for cultural freedom

the 1950s the cia set up you know

a foundation uh to start funneling money

to trotskyites and phony leftists right

they set up partisan review magazine

and they started funding like leftist

thought

that was anti-soviet anti-communist um

but was also critical of the cold war

and mccarthyism and stuff

stuff like that and if you read one of

the intellectuals that they talk about

who they they built up was susan

sontag right and susan sontag i mean

she's toxic i mean you read her stuff

she she has this essay that she

published people consider it one of her

greatest works fascinating

fascism and it's all about you know

she's criticizing this

this art exhibit and saying it's fascist

but her definition of fascism

is like the most crazy i mean if

anything

anything is fascist she says that i say

gymnastics or fascist

uh fascism is physical fitness if you

want people physically fit god forbid

that's

fascist uh you know uh you know uh

having a having a

a a powerful leader leading a group

that's fascist uh you know

uh trying to build a family of mankind

that's fascist

um and and if you read that essay

basically she's saying anything other

than

than individualism right anything that

celebrates beauty

anything that is trying to to build a

new word world anything that unleashes

courage and

encourages strength is by definition

fascist so if you follow that essay you

can't build a mass

revolutionary movement you can't you

can't right you're going to be fascist

right there's something especially

pernicious about

that specifically because and we know

this from

experience we are continually called

fascists bright bread tube i mean and

you i think as well you're called an os

bowl and all this dumb stuff

and and i don't know if you saw my

encounter with vost

but it's precisely why i

acted the way i did on the whole fascism

thing

is what you're saying these people

define fascism so

vaguely and so abstractly

then it that it could be applied to the

power that had the decisive significance

in the actual

destruction of fascism which was the

soviet union

all these things you mentioned the

promotion of beauty the promotion of

health

physical fitness strength promotion of

manhood a sense of manhood for

people and i think you know i'm not like

one of those mra people whatsoever but

what's so wrong with being able to teach

people you know

who are really confused in this day and

age just you know

how to be a man you know things like

that communist states dealt with issues

like those you know

um and

it's like all of those things have just

suddenly become

fascist when in fact

the fascists were stealing and

opportunistically trying to emulate the

example of

not only the real existing soviet union

but also the

communist parties of their respective

countries and also the

the social democrats the german social

democrats

had traditions of um these kind of boy

scouts camping

and all these kinds of uh promotion of

physical

fitness and culture and all that kind of

stuff and the nazis pretty much

we're hijacking all of that stuff so

you have to ask the question where did

the fascists get these things we are

otherwise associating with fascism

they stole it from the socialist

movements

right and and then what's interesting is

a lot of the things that you and i

complain about about the synthetic left

are actually far more accurate about

fascism for example uh you know i mean

we're

pushing an ideology that is about you

know human progress

and advancement uh but the fascists were

obsessed with the past

they loved primitive feudal societies

the dalai lama

right who was just the the darling of

all these synthetic leftists oh the evil

communists have oppressed tibet

before the communists came tibet was

this beautiful mystical kingdom

the nazis loved the tibetan society

right

the tibetan feudal regime they loved it

because everyone was just born into

their place there was no class struggle

and and no you know it was this you know

really authoritarian feudal society

um you know the nazis were very very

into the indian caste

system something the british empire

reinforced when they got to india

and this kind of this primitivist

obsession right this belief that

that well we don't want to advance we

want to go back to like you know

pre-capitalist societies and kind of

kind of you know glorify the the

mystical beauty of of pre-capitalist

civilizations that is a very nazi

very fascist that's julius ebola that's

you you look at the ideology

of the far right that is that is very

much intrinsic to what they believe

and a lot of the things that they say

now like you pointed out are fascist

are just things that if you would do if

it's just common sense if you're

building a mass political movement right

if you're

i mean if you're trying to mobilize a

mass movement of people uh to get

together you might want them to wear

uniforms so they dress similarly

you know what i'm saying uh the

communists of germany they

wore red arm bands so the nazis they had

their red armband except they put

swastikas on them right

um you know uh the the communists are

you know going back to the paris commune

we had our salute

right so you know the fascists invented

their salute right um

interesting fact right you know uh you

know back then they didn't have you know

when they were mass printing propaganda

posters they didn't have

facial details right there wasn't enough

like you couldn't have a lot of facial

details

so lennon and stalin both had very

distinct mustaches so

if people saw the mustache they knew

that's lennon that's stalin well

hitler comes along right he's trying to

build print posters so his face can go

on propaganda posters

he has a very distinct mustache so none

of this is fascist this is just

when you're building a mass political

movement you do this kind of thing and

and communists and social democrats did

it first and

then the nazis were coming along and

building their political movement to

beat back the communists and the

socialists and such

so they they did some of this on their

own while

also incorporating a lot of very

reactionary elements trying to

reincorporate the past

anti-semitism the idea that the problem

isn't capitalism it's just some race or

another

right um you know i mean they were they

were you know you know co-opting

some of the effective organizing tactics

of the revolutionary movements

plus incorporating their very you know

reactionary ideas glorifying the past

wanting to go backward

look malthusianism is all over nazi

ideology right they wanted to reduce the

population

and the soviet union stalin gave women a

medal one of the highest honors it was

if you had more than 10 children you got

a medal for being a mother of the soviet

union

the nazis sterilized people they went

around they first started with disabled

people sterilizing them

then political dissidents sterilizing

them and and we know all the rest and

what eventually happened so

you know uh you know i mean the nazis

were actively trying to decrease their

population

right whereas uh you know in in the

soviet union they were actively trying

to expand their population big

difference there

very very big difference there um and

and you know the nazi

and the fascist elements i mean that was

very much you know i thought that was

the most brilliant part of your debate

with bosch

right i i never had thought of that and

that when you said that was very

brilliant he asked you to define fascism

you said

fascism is when liberalism like

collapses into itself

that's really what it is right it's when

the liberal societies enter such a big

crisis

that they're forced to become ill

liberal to protect their system that's

actually a very good definition

a very very good definition we're seeing

that a lot right now right

i mean this is the argument right is

that you know the western world

is so great because everyone can think

whatever they want everyone can say

whatever they want

um but now uh there's such a crisis in

society and there's a lot of people

joining these illiberal movements like

communism or or

the far right or whatever so we need to

start banning people from the internet

in case uh they would it's like wait a

second i thought what was so great is

that we don't ban people from the

internet and this is

liberalism collapsing onto itself oh you

know we're for total free speech

and that's why we have to ban people who

might you know come into power and limit

total free speech

this is like it's it's getting crazy

right and then that's kind of the basis

of what fascism is the liberal society

is so threatened

uh in a crisis that it's it's reduced to

that i've talked about bonapartism

uh you know how one section of the

ruling class will battle against other

sections

and i think that that's that's really

key into understanding

um and that's karl marx's pamphlet of

the 18th roomier of louis bonaparte he

talks about

you know the finance capitalists were

backing louis bonaparte in 1851 taking

over the government

um and what's interesting is i think

that nowadays that's kind of the role

that

the bread tubers kind of play right they

are like they are

fighting for one faction of the ruling

class against another they are fighting

for the ultra rich facts and they're

fighting for

you know for jeff bezos they're fighting

for george soros

they're fighting for the ultra rich

against kind of an insurgency

by betsy devos and who's the guy who

owns home depot what's his name

uh the home depot guy and you know

there's these lower level capitalists

fracking companies others

that are are kind of fighting back

against the ultra rich you know in in a

turf

war and you know the bread tubers

they're you know the hit squad the goon

squad of the ultra rich to control the

lower level capitalists who are

rebelling

around donald trump um and uh and that's

really what's going on and it's

interesting because at the same time you

know we're supposed to hate trump

because he's illiberal

remember that like he's illiberal right

trump is illiberal he's just like kim

jong-un he's just like putin he's just

like china he's illiberal he's a threat

to our liberal order

so what we got to do according to cnn

right is we got to kidnap people and

deprogram

them and brainwash and brainwash them to

make sure they don't follow this guy

who's illiberal and brainwashes this is

getting stupid

you know what i'm saying it's it's it's

really really really bizarre and silly

um you know and it's like you know i i

i'm not a q anon guy

i don't i think it's a really crazy

conspiracy theory but at the end of the

day

the fact that a lot of working-class

americans are so

angry at the ruling class and so angry

at the elite

that they think these people might be

satanic pedophiles

is that a bad thing i mean i mean i'd

rather they think they're satanic

pedophiles than think they're good

you know i mean at the end of the day

right you know i mean i want to engage

with these people i'd rather these

people think that they're capitalists

and

the solution is workers power that's

what i want i don't want to just shame

them back into to obeying the

the elites of this country i mean i mean

it's yeah the priorities are all

are all confused you know people make

these endless analogies to the 1930s

right and that's a pet peeve of mine too

the 1930s right

you know roosevelt entered a popular

front alliance with the communists and

great victories were won

that's this is not the 1930s okay i mean

i mean there's no

you know soviet union now there's no

like mass communist party

and entering an alliance with biden is

is the equivalent of shooting yourself

in the head

that's really what the what they're

doing i mean that's all they're doing

here this is not

it it is it is not uh this is not a

revolutionary act

we're not on the brink of having a

fascist dictatorship set up

look trump you know trump was bad but

fascist

you know dashes tend to like you know if

if trump was actually a fascist

okay if trump was actually a fascist the

pandemic would have been his reichstag

fire

and he would have like swung into action

and did all kinds of stuff you know that

that's what fascists do it's a

bonapartist move to save capitalism

um and donald trump fell on his face in

the pandemic donald trump's a

libertarian he's a pathetic libertarian

he sat back and the economy collapsed

and fell apart and he couldn't even tell

people to put masks on their face what

kind of

you know a fascist would like shoot

people for not putting masks on he'd

implement the death penalty for not

wearing a mask

he was a fascist come on you know donald

trump doesn't have the courage to tell

his supporters to put their masks on and

he's a fascist you know

fascism is heavy-handed authoritarianism

to

try and save capitalism donald trump was

weak and pathetic

and trying to protect lower levels of

capital from some of the managerial

schemes of the ultra-rich

he appealed to racism and anti-immigrant

bigotry anti-islamic you know people's

bigotry and their

their delusions and such so i mean you

know you can see elements there at the

end of the day i mean

you know trump was trump was a pretty

pathetic pathetic guy

and uh you know i i don't think his

crime was being illiberal

i don't think his crime was appealing to

masculinity i think his crime was that

he was a phony and a fraud that's what i

think his crime was

i 100 agree with pretty much everything

you you said about trump

i mean um but this you know again it

comes back

these people are gonna say well it's all

it's just because everyone's brainwashed

by russian fake news there's no

contradiction of liberalism there's no

contradiction of our society it's all

russian fake news

coming in and brainwashing people into

fascism

uh supposedly but um you know

back to this thing about fascism as

liberal

liberalism and contradiction you know

it's interesting because

liberalism was always a negation it was

just a pure negation of the old

feudal and kind of traditional society

and liberalism was always this kind of

rights for its own sake individual

rights just for its own sake

you know um uh with no kind of

actual content no substantive content

and fascism and and

when liberalism is faced with a

contradiction that it that there is

indeed

um real premises real substantive

content of its own order like for

example

the fact that people need to be taken

care of economically

um the fact that after 1929 the wild

west

kind of arbitrary capitalism was no

longer sustainable

um this is where i think fascism has

decisive significance because

actually instead of being open to the

real material

content missing which liberalism

foreclosed itself from in a real

authentic community

fascism invented a fake phony

mythological

and idealized community an idealized

past an idealized tradition

uh which didn't which wasn't didn't

reflect any real openness to the german

and italian

people it is especially evident for

example in italy the way that the

fascists had an uneasy relationship to

the southern

southern italy the southern italians um

and i think there's something similar

going on with bread tube actually bread

tube is inventing

the synthetic left is inventing trying

to

reinforce the gaps in liberalism

by creating new rules new political

correctness

new bonds new pencil

pencil factory you know experiments

about you know

how to recreate society entirely from

scratch all of this

just to prevent themselves and avoid

some type of new openness to the

actual majority of people who are living

in

in the country within which they reside

instead of engaging in a newfound

dialogue with the masses and learning

from them not pandering to them but

learning from them

humbling oneself to them they want to

create something

you know in a vacuum abstractly workers

democratic ownership

of the pencil factory or something and

then they draw a line if you don't agree

with this

you're out if you're in you're in and

that's the whole

that's actually what this whole culture

war is about it's not

actually about the supposed content of

transgender rights and gay rights and

all this kind of stuff it's a way of

uh it's a way of this kind of elite this

cultural elite

to estrange themselves

from the majority of the people and

basically um

create their own culture and reality

from scratch without having to

acknowledge

the real material reality uh that is

beyond these kinds of

bubbles and walls they're creating for

themselves

so to me that's another way bread tube

is very related to fascism but speaking

about this whole fascism business

this is the plain fact i think it's

ridiculous to compare the

present situation to the 1930s at all i

think it's just stupid like how you said

you know pretty much

agree with what you said about the

reasons why but another reason i would

add is that

kind of missing one really important

thing when they're calling trump a

fascist and they're making all these

accusations about fascism

it's not only the fact that we don't

have we do have china so that's kind of

an equivalent to the soviet union but

what about war there was no fascism

without some type of

newfound aggression against other

countries

uh italy invaded ethiopia for no reason

i mean there were reasons but

this was the meaning of fascism in italy

the meaning of fascism in germany

was the eastward and the invasion you

know the

the conquest of the the living space or

whatever and

the destruction of the soviet union if

anyone wants to look at

where anything that bears any

uh similarity to the 1930s fascism is

going to come from

why don't they look at the actual

american deep state

and it's its attempts to create

newfound aggression against rising

powers

like china and russia if fascism is

going to come somewhere it's going to

come from the humiliated

national feeling that is coming with the

rise of

china coupled with the deep state's

hostility hostility to china and then

one last thing i just wanted to say

about the satanic elites and stuff is

that

honest to god i may be at the threat of

embarrassing myself but honest to god i

have no

idea what kind of twisted and warped

and depraved culture actually prevails

among these

elites because after what was revealed

with jeffrey epstein

at the very least i have to confine

myself to a position of

ignorance i just don't know honestly i

don't know if they're satanic elites

i mean uh satanic pedophiles they might

be you know it's

it's up in the air we honest to god just

don't know you know

that wouldn't surprise me is all i'd say

well

you know as far as what you said about

fascism and war you know i i really

i really if there's any german folks

watching i i deeply

i deeply sympathize with you because you

know that

the ideas of hitler those were british

empire ideas right

malthusianism racial pseudo science

anti-semitism and that there's been this

whole

emphasis in in the way history is taught

that like fascism is just like magically

german

right like germans are just fascist

people they're just inherently fascist

and it's like for thousands of years the

germans have been like that and that's

not

true um you know germany until hitler

was the center of the global gay rights

movement there were huge institutions

promoting gay rights in germany in the

1920s

um you know i mean it's it's the music

of bach and beethoven look the communist

manifesto was written in germany

the biggest marxist group in the world

the german social democratic party for

many years was was in germany

uh the german communist party was the

biggest communist party outside the

soviet union

the germans have a proud history they

have a lot to be proud of right

and that that what fascism and and

hitler was about was about

you know trying to trying to destroy

that history

um in order to prevent some kind of

revolution and it was the british and

and british bankers and capitalists the

british royal family uh you know you

talk about

you know wealthy interests in britain

that worked hard to bring fascism to

germany as a way of like crushing

its progressive and revolutionary nature

so you know i mean i

and and and the biggest fear that the

the you know you talk about the

anglo-imperialists

the the the eastern establishment of the

united states uh you know the british

the british you know bankers and

imperialists

their greatest fear has always been the

germans and the russians getting

together

because if the germans and the russians

got together then basically

the european mainland would be and all

of eurasia

would would no longer be under their

dominion and they know that right

and they've known that for a long time

and if you look at

what happened is you know the the

british the americans the french they

got into the imperialism game

way ahead of the germans they started

colonizing the world and and all of that

and germany

was very late in the process right they

were very late in the process of

becoming an imperialist capitalist

country

uh they got into the game late um and

they were trying to catch up with the

british and the french and the american

imperialists

and because they were trying to catch up

they did some things uh

that were kind of a little bit you know

more progressive i guess you could say

to try and stabilize their society to

keep up with the

the other western imperialists like they

had public education before we did here

in the united states they had a

national health care service you know

before and it was again you know they

were trying to catch up the kaiser and

all that they were trying to catch up to

to what happened and ultimately that

exploded into world war one

after world war one the imperialist

germans were stripped of all their

colonies

they were stripped of all their colonies

um you know and and

you know at that point they were you

know they were kind of you know held

down and you had you know you had the

communist party of germany fighting for

a socialist germany to join with the

soviet union

and so you had the british you know and

the western imperialist setting up

hitler kind of as a counter gang as

a grouping to fight the communists but

then you'll notice that hitler

changed his ideology in the late 20s

because he realized he had a chance to

come to power

and he sat down with hollimer shacked

polymer shack was the economist who

was friendly with hitler he was a german

banker and he basically uh you know

you know hitler stopped working for the

british and he started working for the

krupps and the tysons and for shocked

um and the the german industrialists

seized control of the government killed

all the communists

but also canceled the loans of the

british and started trying to re-seize

colonies and seize territory again

and then you have world war ii um and

and ever since world war

ii you know germany once again you know

beaten down but their capitalist economy

re-emerging

so now you have a situation where the

germans have been saying look we want to

buy natural gas from russia the united

states is on the other side of the world

russia is right here we're going to buy

natural gas from russia we're going to

build this nord stream 2 pipeline

and the united states and britain are

going crazy and telling the germans they

don't have the right to buy natural gas

from russia

and it's this huge issue that they want

the germans to like pay twice as much

practically for their natural gas just

because you know we

say you know we the americans we the

british say you're not allowed to buy

your natural gas

from russia right but again it's not

just about natural gas it's that fear

that fear on the part of the british

bankers and the american bankers and the

american oil giants

that if the germans and the russians get

friendly to each other

that will cancel out their domination of

europe and

eventually of eurasia right i mean

they're afraid of seeing the belt and

road and all the economic development

projects that china is leading

and that russia is leading and with

eurasian economic union

they're afraid of seeing that spill into

europe could you imagine high-speed

railway

all throughout you know eurasia could

you imagine what could be done

right if if you know if europe and

western europe and russia and china were

to get together

and that is what they're afraid of the

world is slipping out of their fingers

and they know it right

their system has gotten to the point

that it is on the brink of total

collapse

right and this is again this is basic

like i

i it bothers me that these bread tube

folks don't read marxism you know

they want you to think about something

different because mark's talked about

over production

overproduction right that that you know

the capitalist is constantly trying to

make production more efficient

eliminate people from the assembly line

hire as few people as possible pay those

who he does hire as little possible so

you de-skill the jobs right

and the idea is you know is make

production as efficient as possible as

cheap as possible

churn out as many products as you

possibly can

hire as few people pay as little to do

it and the result is the worker who is

also the consumer

can't buy back the product he's

producing right that's what happens

right if you eliminate people's jobs you

drive down people's wages

eventually people can't buy the products

that you're producing and so you have a

glut and the market is full of products

that can't

be sold and the economy collapses and

this is the built-in problem of

capitalism and this is why they created

the federal reserve

i mean this is why all the economic

reforms they've invented have been

carried out they're trying to stabilize

a naturally unstable system

the worker cannot buy back the product

he produces that's the problem of

capitalism

and that's what's happening the computer

revolution has just expanded that

problem beyond

anything marx never envisioned

self-driving cars

you know marx never envisioned you know

you know you know uh

amazon you know where you you know a

book is printed by a machine not no

human labor involved in printing the

book the machine just turns out the book

right 3d printers i mean their computer

revolution has created such a situation

where there's millions of people that

have no place in their assembly

line um and their system is coming to a

grinding halt

whereas in china where the state

controls the means of production where

the banks

and the factories the major industries

are subject to a state central plan

and the lending of money and credit is

in the hands of the state this isn't a

problem in fact as

technology advances in china living

standards advance and

people are getting wealthier while the

economy is becoming more efficient this

contradiction between technology

technology

and you know human prosperity and

abundance is eliminated right we can get

more technology

and people can get wealthier at the same

time so

their system has reached an impasse the

computer revolution is destroying

capitalism

meanwhile the socialist countries of the

world are able to deal with the computer

revolution

because profits are not in command the

state controls the means of production

not the irrationality of the market

so they're at an impasse whereas the

developing countries or the socialist

countries of the world are continuing to

speed ahead

uh the way china handled the pandemic is

another great example of that you know

um and you know they're at an impasse

and i think they will become more

war-like i think it's weird you know you

ever

there's a line in a lot of old horror

movies they say it's quiet too

quiet i listen to the biden

administration they sound quiet

too quiet you know what i'm saying

they're very very careful in how they

speak anthony blinken says oh no more

force

no more force in uh regime change

anymore yeah i really trust you on that

one antony

uh you know i mean it's i i think

they're planning something right you

know

harris is a very dangerous person i i

have psychologically profiled her she's

a very

very dangerous person she's is somebody

who wants to kill

she wants to destroy she wanted to

execute an innocent man in california

she wanted to block dna evidence and

execute an innocent man

that is called attempted murder in my

world right but you know she she tried

her best to execute an innocent man

in california destroyed the lives of

thousands of people

for smoking marijuana and then they

asked her on tv oh have you ever smoked

marijuana she's like oh of course

my family's from jamaica yeah i mean

it's like this is a dangerous woman and

she was put in there

to continue doing what the hillary

clinton state department wants and that

is

unleash chaos and mass destruction to

preserve the rule

of wall street bankers and london

bankers so

i'm really perplexed by the kind of

passive silent

you know careful words we're hearing

from the biden administration

i think behind the scenes they're

planning something there are

negotiations going on right now they're

getting ready to do something big

and when when something big happens

which we don't know what it is

when something big happens it is our

responsibility those who us who

understand how the world is actually

working

it is our responsibility to tell the

working-class people of this country

that their enemy isn't on wall street

their enemy or their enemy is not in

iran their enemy is not in china their

enemy's not in russia or venezuela their

enemy is the billionaire bankers that

run this country

this is basic our real enemy is at home

that was the message of the

revolutionary working-class anti-war

movement of eugene debs and

and joe hill and so many great figures

throughout this country our real enemy

is at home

you know our lives are being destroyed

by the capitalists and we need to get

that message out to people

you know one thing that's interesting is

you'll notice that the anti-china

obsession of trump has carried over

right anthony blinken said that china is

the only country in the world that can

challenge the open international system

right

the open international system is that

interesting turn of phrase the open

international system

you know when they rule the world it's

open right you know i mean you know i'm

saying

you know it's like when they're in

charge it's just it's it's open right

you know

they're not in charge it's just that's

just the way it's supposed to be you

know and and but but if if china were to

start to grow as a country and have

international influence they're

challenging it's not open anymore

right i mean it's like their de facto

supposed to be in charge that's just the

way it is and if you start meddling with

that

you're being a dictator right because de

facto the natural order of the world is

them being in charge

well i think i would disagree with that

i look at the world right now i think

things are very unnatural

we're seeing a lot of unnatural

disasters we're seeing man-made famines

caused by capitalism i mean you know i

mean look look what's happened in africa

since this pandemic has started

malnutrition through the roof that's

their system that is their system right

that kills people all over the world

it's destroying the lives of working

families in this country

um you know we those of us those of us

who understand

actually marxism leninism actually

understand it we have a duty

we have a responsibility to to get

people in the united states to

understand who their real enemy is

you know um we always like to say

that um it's important to learn from

china

you know obviously china is a different

country with a completely different

history

but the way china i mean um

the way china's socialism uh is able to

reconcile contradictions

and um and function with its dynamism

it's really arrogant that there are

there that there's anyone in america

calling themselves a socialist

who's dismissing and foreclosing

themselves to the most

probably the most successful socialist

country

that gives meaning to the word i mean in

the history of a

history of the world arguably but um

i very much agree that uh it

seems to me as well that they are

plotting something and it has been

awfully quiet we haven't really seen

a really uh solid indication of the

direction the biden

administration is planning on going in

but if the past is any

you know serves any lesson uh

something is going on they're cooking

something up and all i would want to say

to that is all of those people who were

shilling for biden during the election

uh because of the specter of fascism

posed by trump yeah they should be held

accountable for whatever happens

uh when this whole body administration

and its foreign policy

and i'm even seeing some of these same

people these synthetic leftists trying

to walk

back their previous support for biden uh

critiquing you know the whole business

of uh

the lack of passing of a fifteen dollar

minimum wage and

the drone strikes in syria and elsewhere

and so on

uh well you were the one who said this

was your lesser of two evils so you have

to stick by it

you know people like us were telling

people not to waste their time and

energy

voting for people like biden and instead

commit their energy to working

on building an actual alternative

because as human beings

our time is finite our energy is finite

we can either use our time to go with

the status quo

or we could use what little time we have

to try and build something new

and you know the whole argument that

well you know we're just doing harm

reduction

but that's ridiculous you know you're a

finite person

with the small time and energy that you

have you would be making much more of an

impact

trying to build an actual alternative

for working americans

than just joining this flood this

you know this sheep for the status quo

this flock of sheep

uh for the status quo as just one among

many if you're

committing yourself to building an

alternative you're not just a sheep

anymore you're actually

participating in building something new

um

but anyway uh it's very strange in

general how the meaning

even in america of socialism and

communism has changed

now in the past the meaning of socialism

and communism

meant empowerment it meant giving people

dignity and something to be proud of

today the meaning of socialism appears

to have been defined

entirely by the right wing

but what we have with bread tube and the

synthetic left is that they're just

going

they're just going ahead and perversely

adopting this caricature and straw man

created by the right wing

and embracing that oh communism is for

weaklings who hate humanity and are

misanthropic

and are pessimistic and you know they

they

they as you said they want to kill

stifle people's

creative uh energies their livelihoods

they want you to be depressed

and fear-mongering like greta thundberg

about

the end of the world and all this kind

of stuff and they just went yeah okay so

now i've kind of seen what the meaning

of socialism and

so-called communism in the american

context has come to mean

it doesn't actually mean any authentic

discovery of these ideas

within the american context or i should

say rediscovery because they do have

precedent in american history

and rather consists in a way of

um perversely mocking and

teasing conservative people

that's my the conclusion i draw i drew

yeah

well you know it's funny because you

know i think about communism i think

about william z

foster and gus hall and huey newton and

you know the leaders of the black

panther party fred hampton and others

their message was that working people

are oppressed uh by a system that puts

profits over people

and that black and white should united

fight seize control of the economy

and build a society where working people

and their needs come first and human

creativity and progress is no longer

restrained that's their message

but i listen to you know the folks on

bread tube and i'll criticize bernie

sanders a little bit too

when people say you know well the

understanding of socialism is well the

government gives people free health care

the government

gives people free education i mean i'm

for that i'm not against that

but but you know in a way it's they've

taken this like very triumphant

and heroic message um and they've

replaced it with ah fuck this shit give

me some free stuff

you know i mean that's kind of what i

get from a lot of you know the message

that i get from a lot of young social

it's like the world sucks

give me some food stuff well i mean they

deserve some free stuff corporations get

free stuff all the time they're not

wrong

but like that that that is such a

pessimistic way of looking at things

it's not

inspiring it's not you know heroic and i

do

think that social media in a lot of ways

has really

weakened people right it's really kind

of turned a lot of people into

into very emotionally weak people i talk

about over socialization

right and that um you know it's very

interesting you know uh b.f skinner uh

who was one of the important

psychologists out of harvard

he did a study and he determined that if

you want to control someone's behavior

uh it's far more effective to reward

them than to punish them

because if you punish somebody they can

just say well you're you're being unfair

to me right you're victimizing me and in

fact there's like you know there's a lot

of like

murderers and rapists and all that that

really in their minds think they did

nothing wrong and the world's just being

unfair to them people can make

huge leaps and back flips to make

themselves feel like a victim no matter

what

but if you reward somebody nobody ever

goes i don't deserve this reward you're

trying to manipulate me what

you know what i'm saying so it's reward

is a far more effective way to

manipulate somebody

and but what you can do with rewards

rather than punishments is you can turn

people into addicts

right the reward controls people when it

gets taken away right it's like oh well

you know you don't get a reward this

time you don't get a sticker little

johnny you don't get a

you don't get a cookie and social media

has got people

programmed right we're constantly

looking at our phones you know oh do we

get another like do we get another share

oh do the people agree with me or oh

they don't agree with me and it's gotten

people into this state where they're

they're like addicts you know the heroin

addict has to get their hit they have to

get their hit we have to get our like

our emotional you know reward our

validation from our peers

and if we don't get that uh you know

then we got to do something different

because we got to get this emotional

validation

and it has kind of turned people into

addicts where they constantly are

craving the approval of others

and they don't have the the courage to

stand against the mob

right as much as i'm a populist and all

of that you have to admit

the most heroic people in history you

talk about joan of arc you talk about dr

martin luther king jr

these are people that stood against the

mob these are people that took unpopular

stands that

you know that that you know that stood

firm in their beliefs and

and earned the scorn of others made

other people angry

right and that social media has kind of

weakened people and taken away people's

ability to be tough

and to stand firm and to just say you

know what this is these are my

principles

this is the hill i want to die on you

know come get me right and

and that is what we need to find a way

to reinvigorate in people that that

heroism because

i would argue that social media is

largely it's about

making people dependent on the approval

of others and

the the the dirty secret behind all of

it is we know what they do with their

algorithms it's not really

the approval of others right they're

manipulating it behind the scenes

silicon valley

i mean the people i mean look there's a

whole history of this it sounds tinfoil

hattie who set up

who set up silicon valley as the center

of the computer revolution okay

the nsa the cia it was a strategic

decision they knew the soviets couldn't

invest in they didn't have the resources

to invest in computers

and you know the reason that it wasn't

the free market that was going to create

silicon valley

it was very much a result of strategic

decision making by the intelligence

agencies

they put the usa at the center of the

computer revolution al gore

he said you know we invented the

internet what he meant was

that through strategic decisions the

american government

had created you know what eventually

became the internet and that you know

that they are

very much using social media and using

you know you know the control of the

mechanisms of information

to try and carry out their agenda and

their agenda is not eradicating poverty

in the world

their agenda is not you know lifting

people up their agenda is staying on top

of the world

um and you know you talk about satanic

elites i mean read the aquarian

conspiracy by marilyn ferguson

right i mean marilyn ferguson was al

gore's spiritual advisor

and she wrote this very very disturbing

occultist uh

new age manifesto called the aquarian

conspiracy

all about basically how we're out of

balance with mother nature

and we need to create some kind of you

know social explosion to you know drive

humanity

uh humanity down to uh down to you know

balance with mother nature once again

this is this disturbing stuff

a lot of these new left gurus you know

they seem progressive but again the

dalai lama

was not progressive right uh you know

the indian caste system

you know was not progressive and a lot

of a lot of the eastern influence uh you

know on

on uh you know what what's going on in

the west that's a big thing with like

the new age

folks they're all about the east right

the eastern ways the nazis were like

that too right they had this fixation on

the east

whereas in china the communists have

been trying to modernize they've been

trying to get rid of that stuff i mean

this falun gong cult that's trying to

overthrow the chinese government that

puts out epic

times it's like quoted as a credible

source on china

these folks these folks are are not

eastern in the sense they're

in the developing world fighting you

know to develop and fighting for

progress

they're eastern in the sense they

glorify pre-capitalist

feudalism they they glorify the past um

they're opposed to human progress right

and that john foster dulles uh who was a

founder of the cia

wrote that one of the strategies of the

cia was to was to you know promote you

know mystical religious

groups that would be against communism

in china um and that that's

long been their strategy and you can

talk about you can talk about falun gong

you can talk about eastern lightning

you can talk about the hari krishna

movement you can talk about reverend sun

young moon in south korea

you know the use of like mystical

reactionary groups to

to fight against scientific progress in

the east uh

it's been a big aspect of cia strategy

but also

it had a lot of influence on on silicon

valley and the kind of social

engineering faction

that is trying to dominate the united

states and rule with with social media

they have a very

very uh eastern mystical primitivist

perspective i think and that that

influences what they're doing

yeah i mean uh it's interesting you you

bring up

um i i want to say that that's the kind

of more interesting stuff but uh

you know uh this thing about the

relationship between

this kind of this type of mysticism and

fascism and reaction and i mean you

i mean the nazi thing is self-evident

history madame blavatsky and theosophy

was all up all connected to fascism and

you know but um i think that the way

humanity can establish an authentic

relationship

to its real past and its old religious

and even

to an extent mystical traditions is by

embracing the wealth

of modern technology and uh

in a sense modern science uh

because these people you're talking

about like falun gong and these kind of

mis they are making a fatal assumption

they are making the assumption

that the pre-modern

civilization and society was explicitly

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was explicitly establishing itself

against

modern progress but that's knocking on

an open door it's just that they

they hadn't yet encountered uh

encountered

what we call modern science and

technology and so on so on that's why

communists were the only ones who

actually successfully i would argue

revive the unique characteristics

of their respective civilizations in

russia and also in china

um whereas people like falun gong and

all these kinds of you know

i would call them fake mystics and these

kinds of religious people

glorifying their idealized version of

feudalism

they are actually an extension of

liberalism western liberalism

in my view i think that's kind of a

lesson from not to get too philosophical

or anything but that's a lesson of

dialectics is that

contraries uh apparent contraries

uh can coincide you're absolutely right

yeah you're absolutely right i mean if

you look at

um you look at the middle east for

example right saudi arabia is one of the

most primitive barbaric

governments out there that's who the

british imperialists set up and that's

who the west embraces

who do we attack in the middle east we

attack you know governments like syria

that

are modern and secular uh governments

like the islamic republic of iran where

they have women who are brigadier

generals in the military and multiple

party elections etc

that um and that this is part of the

problem with the synthetic left is that

they've

they've obliterated the economic

definition of imperialism

right imperialism is about holding back

development so the western capitalists

can keep the world as a

captive market and instead it's become

quote unquote cultural imperialism

right and cultural imperialism means if

you do anything to

you know to if these countries do

anything to modernize right

if in the arab world the baathists come

in and build

power plants and wipe out illiteracy

well that's getting away from the

beautiful primitive ways

look at saudi arabia that's a beautiful

i mean that's that's the way these

people think i mean in nicaragua the

sandinistas the socialist government you

know

they are working very hard to eradicate

poverty they've wiped out illiteracy

they've done all of this

and the cia goes and they find like the

most like

crazy reactionary sex of the indigenous

people who don't believe in technology

and stuff

and say oh you know this you look at

these indigenous people they're so angry

about what the sandinistas are doing

i mean you know i mean it's ridiculous

it'd be like if you you know you went to

you know i'm from ohio right

you could find like an amish guy in ohio

you know and the next time they're

building a power plant you know put him

on tv

oh we ohioans don't believe in

electricity this is not our way you know

you're

people pressing our beautiful ohio

culture we're amish here

and this is this is i mean it's it's and

and the majority of people in nicaragua

are indigenous right um and and that

again it's about obscuring the actual

definition of imperialism if it becomes

cultural imperialism and you know and i

mean there are you know and that's kind

of the beauty of modern china is

you know you know the first act of dr

sun yet sin when he launched the

revolution was he smashed the idols in

the temple

right and he told the people of china

these are primitive beliefs we need to

be modern scientific like the west

mao took that to a whole nother level

with the cultural revolution

but now in in china they have found like

kind of a balance where

you know that marxism fundingism and

mountain thought

and uh you know and confucianism and

some of the aspects of chinese

civilization

are able to kind of like have a you know

a synergy right

um they reject all the aspects of

traditional chinese culture rooted in

feudalism

but they also celebrate a lot of the

traditions of chinese civilization

while also embracing scientific marxism

and that they can

they can walk together and that's the

beauty of it um and that's really kind

of what's amazing

um about you know chinese socialism is

that they they have been

able to combine these things right and

that in the west we like to

glorify primitivism it's this weird

bourgeois thing i swear it's like

national geographic magazine all these

rich people that go to africa it's like

the zoo or something they take pictures

and they're like oh look at these

primitive people with their ways it's so

you know that's kind of what it is i

mean a lot of what what calls itself you

know intercultural and

and a lot of the academic you know you

know looking at developing countries is

this kind of very

sick you know tourism i guess you could

call it right that's what the west is

doing

um meanwhile people in the developing

world fighting for their rights fighting

to raise their countries out of poverty

are able to embrace some aspects of

their culture but also embrace

science and progress and and that's a

beautiful thing um you know and i mean

i've been to the islamic republic of

iran i've seen you know what they've

achieved as a result of the islamic

revolution and

um you know there are there there are

great things that are achieved when

countries break out of western

capitalism

um and that's that's never told right

that story is never told um and that's

that's one of the problems in the way

discourse in the west is we never know

about

how great it is when countries break

free and start developing themselves and

allow their cultures to flourish but

also allow to modernize

yeah i think um there's two ways of

looking at this event we call modernity

i think

i think one of the ways is the kind of

dogmatic

liberal way is that modernity um

is just negation for negation's sake

rights for rights own sake but another

way of looking at it is

allowing us to stop making assumptions

about our our own nature right

the ability to have gender equality the

ability to have

modern education medicine technology all

these things

free us from the bondage of prejudices

and assumptions and allow us to have

a newfound openness in relation to our

own

traditions and history without making

dogmatic assumptions and i think that's

what happened in the case of china

they had the modern revolution but

instead of

closing themselves off from their own

past permanently like

how i would argue the west more or less

america has done

they use this as an opportunity to

rediscover their own

authentic tradition and civilization um

while still retaining this modern

standing

freedom that doesn't that doesn't uh

force them to become

bogged down by the bondage uh and and i

think

one thing that's actually the same two

sides of the same coin

is the liberalism the negation for its

own sake and the fake

fetishization of indigenous

uh a true authentic untainted

human zoo if you it's pretty much what

it is

like um these academic ivory dollar

people this is the sick game

they occupy in a position of extreme

modern abstraction from the entire world

and power and the way these elites love

to secure their power

is by referring to the most marginal the

most

indigenous and so on types of people and

just say

ah this is this is our substance this is

our content because those people

don't actually pose a threat to their

position in their ivory tower

but these you know working class people

in the west this

uh toxic trump supporters and all these

kinds of things

those people actually do pose a threat

to the institutional power of these

academic

elites one last thing about imperialism

you know i had a

debate with some guy dylan burns

recently on twitch about imperialism and

what's fascinating to me is that how

leftists make imperialism into an

abstraction

they don't actually want to talk about

imperialism as an actual

reality um as an actual

like it's not a coincidence that

anti-imperialist powers

modernize themselves you can't call that

western imperialism that's just a total

abstraction if you actually look at the

concrete situation you can

very clearly see the remnants of

western and specifically english

imperialism

on the one hand and the peoples of the

world including peoples within europe

itself trying to break out of this old

paradigm

so it's fascinating to me that every

it's all about some abstract

principle oh china's committing

imperialism because there's a dispute

in this south china sea it's stupid you

know

yeah it's it's pretty ridiculous again i

mean they they think imperialism is a

verb

you know they think it's something you

do um i've even heard people say

imperializing

they is the e on the end of it that's

not even like proper use of the english

language but

but no imperialism is a system you know

lenin's definition of imperialism needs

to be revisited people

people need to understand that when you

know imperialism is not one country

influencing another country or trading

with another country it is a

global setup where big monopolies stop

development around the world i tell

people imperialism is

wall street in london keeping the world

poor so that they can stay rich that's

what imperialism is

yeah i mean um it's it's it's the

it's the epitome of opportunism you know

it's it's always this kind of what

aboutism of

we can't think critically about the

nature of

the global world order because you know

that's kind of the thing with bread tube

is they

really like to individualize everything

they try to find

isolated individual actions

which they can they try to reduce

social and historical forces to

individual

moral actions china's committing

imperialism russia's committing

imperialism

they want to find ways to absolve

themselves from an

authentic and critical encounter

with the actual concrete imperialism

that actually exists

they want and it's the same thing

actually with the critique of capitalism

if i just go in my community and set up

a pencil factory

i'm actually because i'm doing it

individually i'm actually creating

socialism

and or conversely if you're making money

somehow and trying to get by in this

world you're committing capitalism you

know it's just this

fundamentally individualistic pathology

which i actually like the way you put it

a lot

it's making things into verbs rather

than systems

you're doing socialism you're doing

capitalism

right and it fits their cancel culture

moralist world view it's not really

about changing the world it's about you

know being a good

moral person who virtue signals and you

know you say all the right things and

you do all the right things and

and they're not really trying to change

the world and and one thing i've noticed

that i must say and

i mean this is just an unfortunate

reality is that you know real political

change real political organizing

requires you to make alliances with

people who maybe you don't agree with

you know i mean i'm sure you and i can

find something we disagree with if we

try hard enough you know what i mean

but in the real world you have to like

be able to find someone and you know hey

i don't agree with you about this but we

can work together on this

but these folks they want to sit there

on the internet and it's like

every little disagreement has to turn

into an epic war

you know what i'm saying and it's like

anyone you know you must never have

shaken hands with anyone you disagree

with you must never been in the same

room as anyone who's cancelable

and it's like they don't understand that

like that you don't you don't

change the world and you don't

effectively challenge power

by reducing people to more and more

atomized individuals and breaking down

any bonds

you build community you bring people

together

you make alliances that's how real

things get done

right it's not through through this kind

of petty i swear i see these communist

facebook groups and all that they cannot

they cannot

you know stop fighting for two seconds

you know um

and and it's it's again it's this

releasing of impulses

it's this you know permission to unleash

your aggression you know and it's

again like you need to be able to learn

to to enter an alliance with people to

shake hands with people you don't agree

about

to find some common grounds and start

building something not tear something

down and make yourself feel good and get

your anger out

but build something that's what this is

about it's about building something

yeah i mean we definitely are aware of

this kind of

you know people making a mountain out of

molehill over the smallest disagreements

i mean we've

we've almost gotten you know no end to

that when it comes to people

because of our views about china oh

you're dengues you're revisionist and

all this kind of nonsense

so we're very much familiar with with

that issue

um you know uh it's the thing about

specifically when when i think some

somewhere in my conversations with these

people you were brought up somewhere

and they always went back and mentioned

oh yeah well caleb maupin he's a

transphobe

and i knew the the story behind this one

so i said

he's not a transphobe he's marched with

for transgender people

he was just talking to someone who

happened to maybe

harbor those i didn't even know if they

did or not but

then they were you know it's like these

stories are becoming they

they they spin these narratives just

because you're talking to someone you

disagree with

the other one was dugan that everyone

because you're a nozbel now because you

talked to

to dugan i mean it's ridiculous

it's it's a fundamental breakdown of the

basics

of human communication that have

been in place for the whole probably of

all mankind's history only now

do you have this thing where if you talk

to someone that

you know we have a kind of i don't want

to bother you with this dumb bullshit

but we have a discord right

and we tend to allow people as long as

they

follow the rules of the platform we let

people and they're not personally

abusive we let anyone with any

ideological views come on our discord

because we want people to be

know how to debate these people right

right and

people will smear us

for for anything anyone says in that

just because we don't ban people for

having opposing

political views so um

it's shocking to me that uh

that this kind of this type of level of

individualism has gotten to this level

where just

even being somewhat associated with

someone

you have to adopt all of their views

about every single thing

it's just ridiculous to me but one thing

i would say is that i think we have

kind of made it pretty clear that our

mission is kind of to take down

us i mean the infrared show we do want

to take down redtube right

but as a kind of self-criticism

maybe something that's a little bit

vague on our part is what are we going

to replace it with

right um and uh

i always look to you as an example as an

inspiration of somebody who

does not only destroy but is trying to

build things you know so

i guess that's all i'll say about that

sure um

well you know i mean one thing that

people need to learn about this cancel

culture stuff

is you can never please these people

okay so stop trying right i mean no

matter

what you do look i mean contra points

who's a

a huge bread tuber right she is a

transgender bread tuber

they think she's a trans folk and like i

mean i

watch contra points i cannot think of

anyone who's more outspoken for trans

rights is trans herself but

she did something wrong in a video

sometimes she's a trans folk

you can never make these people happy

but

what feeds them is when people

react to them and they go oh oh i'm

sorry oh yeah and they they play the

game and they disavow whoever they're

supposed to disavow

that is like it's like it's like you

know it's like feeding the monster

that whenever you do that you're feeding

the monster so you know

and i don't i'm at the point where i

don't i don't play that game you know

i mean jason and rouhey maoist rebel

news or whatever we don't agree on a lot

right but somebody came onto my my

twitter the other day and was like oh

you should disavow jason for this or

that i said i'm not gonna do that i said

get the hell out of here

right we disagree on a lot of things but

i'm not gonna disavow him

i don't play that game i don't play that

game that's being a punk

that's being a coward and you just gotta

you gotta learn to be tough and when

someone

comes to you and says oh just about this

person just about that person say no

no i'm not going to play that game you

know i associate with people with whom i

disagree

maybe i'll argue with this person about

this issue that i disagree with

but but that's that and um and that's

that i mean and

and we gotta we gotta do that and also

you know on some of these issues i must

say like

dugan right dugan has his view fourth

political theory eurasianism

that's his viewpoint obviously not my

viewpoint i'm a marxist leninist i

believe in historical progress

etc uh you know but he's a very

important russian intellectual very

influential a lot of people in russia

read his words a lot of people in russia

strongly disagree with him but a lot of

people

do read what he has to say why would i

not as an intellectual as an

anti-imperialist in the west

why would i not want the opportunity to

engage with him

and why would i not you know seek that

opportunity out it's just like common

sense

if you're in the real world trying to

get things done now if you're

on the internet trying to prove you're

the most glorious and most pure leftist

maybe not um you know jyoti braar uh you

know she's uh a leader of the communist

party of great britain marxist leninist

uh she's with the workers party

and i mean they do great stuff they're

great folks they're

trying to get to working-class

communities they're building an anti-id

pole pro-brexit socialist party

uh they have been in the long haul i

mean she went to libya to stand with

gaddafi

um you know she went to gaza to stand

with the palestinians i have

huge admiration for jyoti i don't agree

with everything she said about the trans

issue

but also i will say that that you know

there's a difference here right i have

many trans

friends who i love deeply and anyone

ever tried to

discriminate against them or bully them

or or mistreat them or tell them they

weren't welcome or make them feel

ashamed of who they are

i would be the first to step in and say

that's not acceptable

however i don't really know and i don't

and

they don't really know what trans is

right and there's a

huge debate among trans people

themselves about what it is and what it

means right

and i stay out of those discussions i

don't know enough about that and i do

know that that there are very strong

feelings among the trans community about

what exactly is behind the transgender

phenomenon and i as a non-trans person

do not know what's going on there i'll

just tell you i don't know what it is

i know that people have rights i know

people shouldn't be discriminated

against i know people shouldn't be

be ashamed of who they are they

shouldn't be accused of being mentally

ill they should be allowed to live their

lives as they want

and that's it that's what i know and

that is solidarity right you know i

don't go to the black community

and tell them this is who you are this

is how you should fight this is

i don't do that because i am not black

you know what i'm saying there's a basic

level of just

solidarity is respecting people's rights

um

and that's it you know what i'm saying

and that's that's that's it's not

and and this demand that you adopt one

ideological perspective or another that

that's

again this is not realistic right

there's i mean it's not realistic right

and the trans issue uh the sax worker

issue also right i mean look i have said

i've been asked many times what are my

views about the sex worker issue

my view is nuanced you know on the one

hand right if women want to engage in

that kind of work i'm not going to stop

them i don't want them to go to jail

but we have to be real that in a lot of

working-class communities the sex trade

is a very

ugly thing it's a very ugly thing you

know you know

women from maybe a middle class

background who would rather do that than

do something else and feel empowered on

the internet or whatever and want to get

on a webcam that's that's one thing okay

but you know we know we know what human

sex trafficking is we know there's real

horrors there

and if leftists go around talking like

all all

all of you know what what is called sex

work is a good thing

we're being really really insensitive to

what lots of working-class people go

through

so again there's nuance to this

conversation we can be you know for

decriminalization

for ending the harassment and the

shaming of people engaged in this we can

be for people's right

to engage in it if they you know do so

freely on the one hand

but we have to be real about the reality

of what the global sex trade is and what

the majority of people

who are quote unquote sex workers are

going through which is horrific

and it's a horror of modern capitalism

and that there's a nuanced way to have

these conversations and

and it seems like as the shrill emotions

get going

no one can ever have these kind of

conversations in a nuanced way

and that that at the end of the day

there's a kind of an anti-working-class

edge to it right

if you go into an immigrant community or

a working-class community and you're

telling everyone you know i'm a

socialist in my organization we

really strongly believe in prostitution

people are going to say

get away from me you know what i mean

the people are going to say get out of

here

you know what i'm saying you have to be

sensitive about how you approach these

issues and

and the world is not as as simple as

people would like and

again it's a very middle-class kind of

thing it's about appealing to

middle-class intellectuals and and

seeing working

working-class people you know oh they're

uneducated rabble they didn't go to nyu

and study

gender studies like i did clearly

clearly you're misinformed you must be

one of those deplorables that uh that

voted for trump

get out of my way you inferior in i mean

this is not a communist approach

this is not how gus hall and william z

foster and

joe hill and and fred hampton would have

approached working-class communities you

know you know you can have

serious conversations and engage with

people or you can just

feel good about yourself and dismiss

them um and and

you know there's there's one way that's

the communist way and there's one that

is clearly the middle class

petty bourgeois you know virtue

signaling way and i think we know which

way is correct

yeah i mean um it's very

very suspicious why has this whole

discourse about you know prostitution

and all that why

has this become at the fore of the left

well

maybe it has something to do with the

fact that

people are losing a sense of stable

livelihood

maybe it has to do with the fact that um

uh selling oneself

has become the new moral virtue i mean

not just

in terms of prostitution but

people sell their souls you know uh to

these institutions that they're wedded

to

um it's extreme and and another really

nefarious thing is

why are socialists the the foremost if

not

not talking about the rights of people

who have fallen victim to this

trade this uh sex trade i'm just talking

about

as some fashionable you know nude why

are socialists

leading this because

doesn't it only empower people who have

money

i mean it's kind of common sense it's a

sex trade you're

purchasing one of the defining things

that makes us human

um which defines human relationships

you're purchasing that with money

who has money in our society

it's it's quite self-evident to me you

know why do culture wars always become

the first thing

right why does that you know i mean why

is that always the the first thing that

pops out right

you know the understanding you i mean

you uh you go back to

you know in the communist movement right

people always talked about

how the communist party with their

anti-racist

line were able to win huge victories for

the working class black and white right

that

back in the 19 teens and the 1920s when

there was a strike

because most of the labor unions were

whites only the black community would be

used as scab

labor right and a lot of black people

hated unions because unions kept them

from getting jobs if the plant was union

it was a union plant and you were black

you couldn't work there right and so a

lot of black people hated unions very

you know understandably so and when

there was a strike the black people

would all be hired as scabs right

well the communist party came along and

they said

let's get rid of that let's have

anti-racist

unions and let's make the demands of our

strike that black people have the right

to work on the docks in san francisco or

have the right to work in the auto

plants

in detroit and when the communist party

did that and said black and white unite

and fight

the black community suddenly started

supporting the labor movement and not

operating as scabs meanwhile meanwhile

at the same time

you had you know the the white workers

uh you know had allies and they were

able to be victorious and

and it was through you know black and

white united fight

putting the needs of the black people at

the front of the labor par

the labor movement's demands that's how

the labor movement was successful it was

understanding that it was in the

economic

interest of the working class to oppose

racism

uh that that you know that these you

know these battles were won and that big

victories were won and

and black people got to work on the

docks in san francisco and black people

worked in the auto plants and you had

the very beginnings of the civil rights

movement which the communist party was

part of

um and the understanding was if we can

build solidarity

we can break down racism if the

communist party back in the 1920s and

30s

had had gone to these unions of white

workers

and said to them you all are racist

you're racist you're scum you're racist

you deserve to be poor the workers would

have spit on them and told them to get

out of there

right but it was through through helping

the white workers to understand that

putting the needs of the black community

first was in their economic interest

and would ultimately benefit all workers

uh that this came through

look the new left the 1960s new left is

is very toxic

okay um the weather underground

uh the weatherman you know the sds bill

ayers bernadine doran

these people that went from being you

know communist revolutionaries who

engaged in left adventurous terrorism

to being like big time democrats and

friends of barack obama

these folks their attitude these people

basically just had a white savior

complex right bill

heiress comes from a billionaire family

he's the leader of the weatherman

a billionaire family you know but in his

view

right he wanted to be the white guy who

saved all the black people from the evil

racist white workers right

and that you see that a lot with some of

these you know groups that come out of

the 1960s

they tend to be led by a white guy a

white guy who's from a wealthy

background

who has it in his head that you know he

was sent to earth by

god to save the black people from the

evil deplorable racist whites

right and it's this like this white

savior complex

right that's really what motivates a lot

of the new left remnants they're

very wealthy people who who are at they

see the

the white working class as a bunch of

racist hillbillies and rednecks

and they see black people as just these

victims who couldn't possibly fight for

their own rights

but luckily you know the rich white guy

shows up to save the black people from

the other evil whites and

and that is such a toxic narrative it's

such a toxic narrative

and if the communist party had operated

that way in the 30s they never would

have made any

progress they never would have won great

victories right you look at what

happened in the south when

when the communist party built

interracial labor unions and got you

know white workers to rip up their ku

klux klan cards

and join the communist party instead and

and to stand arm and arm with black

workers it was a totally different

approach

it wasn't about shaming it wasn't about

white privilege

it was instead about building solidarity

and understanding that racism hurts all

workers

most especially those who are victims of

it but even those who who benefit from

it slightly in the long term

they are they are hurt by racism that

racism and colonialism and white

chauvinism hurt all working-class people

um and it should be on the agenda of the

entire working class to eradicate these

things

the way i put it is that those who can

afford

to write people off and simply dismiss

them

and of course those workers were talking

about who were in the sand

of course you could say yes they do

harbor racist tendencies yes there is

something racist about them

but you can only afford to write them

off as racist when you can somehow

find refuge in an establishment

which represents a tiny minority of the

population

that has secured itself against the

majority of the people

you can only afford to skip the part of

actually winning the masses

when you're taking refuge and hiding

behind the dictatorship of some kind of

elite

when all these fake leftists are going

around dismissing all these people as

racists and deplorables what is what

ground are they standing on to sustain

that

they're standing behind the

anti-democratic and

anti-popular elites yeah

indeed well listen um i'm i'm gonna have

to probably go

pretty soon we want to wrap this up uh

you know do you have anything before we

go before we conclude

um we covered so much so okay

i'm not sure uh i think we pretty much

touched base on everything i could uh

remember all right well i gotta have you

on one of my streams next i'd love to

i'd love to

you're welcome anytime let's set it up

so it was really a pleasure man

i'm really honored to have you on and uh

i'm honored to be on here right people

have been posting gorillas in my chat

for the last few weeks

so i'm really excited so yeah let's do

this again sometime always a pleasure uh

it was really great a great conversation

very wide-ranging

uh let's talk again soon okay i'm

looking forward to it thank you so much

for coming on

sure thing see you later yep bye

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