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Berria Gulag with the ten, what's going on, brother?

Vortex with the five Midwest Singh with the five HB Rain with the one minister with the one American Vaquero, what's going on, brother?

Everybody gather round.

If this stream fucks up again, I don't know what I'm

Aye, well this is awkward.

This is awkward.

I didn't know that, you know.

All right, let me uh

Let me change the camera.

This camera's in the uh in the infrared control room.

This is where the LaRouche uh Nick Land

stuff goes on and you're not supposed to see this control room but let me change the camera back to the stream room my bad my bad this is a top secret room like you can't see this all right

There we are, back where we're supposed to be.

So, Florence Nightingale with the ten!

The government.

Brutal Stalinists with the wand.

What's going on?

What's going on?

Y'all are gonna get me in an auctioneer, boys.

Florence Nightingale with a 10.

What's going on, brother?

Real stands with a 10.

I saw a merry go line with a 10 with another.

5 in the midwest of 5.

We got a Florence Nightingale with a 10.

Anyway, guys, I'm the chairman of a serious party.

Let me act my part.

Anyway.

Uh I'm gonna be doing debates tonight.

I'm gonna be doing a Twitter space, uh, probably uh, you know, well into the stream, but I'm gonna start out not doing that and talking about uh

Well

Uh, ones if you're in ACP.

One's if you're in the party.

'Cause I wanna know if this is if I should say this here now.

Uh if enough of you are gonna be able to Alright, a lot of you are in the party.

Alright.

Alright.

Ah.

Now, threes if you are both in the party.

And.

You know, basically you can hold your own, more or less.

Everyone's gonna say three, of course, no one's gonna be humble.

Alright, anyway, look.

Um

We have a community service event this Saturday in Illinois.

And the event is going to be in Carbondale, Illinois, Carbondale, Illinois.

where some social fascist provocators have attempted to intimidate one of our members.

Um there's more to that story, but that's more of a thing that your chapter executives should tell you.

Uh and we have a community service event which we're gonna go and do there, peacefully of course, uh because they're basically trying to say that we're not allowed in Carbondale.

That's what the social fascists have said.

They said ACP is not allowed in Carbondale and that that's their town and we're not allowed there in Carbondale, Illinois.

So we're gonna show them whose town it is actually, and we're gonna be heading there.

Now there's already a lot of us going.

It's gonna be next Saturday.

So if you're in the Midwest and you're within seven hour driving distance, I ask that you show up next Saturday if you can.

Please contact your chapter executives for more information and contact Kyle for more information.

Uh but the social fascists uh there it's the there's a DSA chapter that's attempting to uh threaten us and then of course there is the uh the the the ogre monster fuck that attempted to uh intimidate one of our comrades down there one of our comrades you know um who's outnumbered I want to know who signed up.

Stop fucking donating to that shit!

That shit is straight out.

You know what?

I don't give a fuck.

Your name is stupid.

It's disrespectful.

Do not fucking donate to that text.

I removed it.

How you still even know what that link is?

You're literally pissing away that $10 and throwing it in a fucking well because I cannot get that money out because donation alerts is fucking sanctioned.

Because of that bitch Hillary Clinton who fucking hates Russia.

So they sanction everything that's Russian.

And donation alerts is a Russian payment processor and I can't fucking transfer the money to my bank.

I have to literally tag in Jackson to help me deal with this issue.

Do not it's in my telegram message.

What?

Are you talking about?

Do not donate to text-to-speech, period.

Ah.

I'm the only streamer that gets pissed off at people donating.

Because you're not donating to me, you're donating to Hillary Clinton.

Remember that.

Hillary Clinton is taking all that shit.

It's fucking Hillary Crooked Hillary.

Alright, wait, well what year is it?

Sorry.

It's right below the stream if you scroll down.

Okay, well, uh stupid people need to learn how to listen to my words.

And that guy should know.

Okay, that move that money is frozen up.

Jennifer, that's how you know Haas isn't a grifter.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

I'm not telling you not to donate to me.

I'm telling you to subscribe.

Let it be known.

Let it be known.

I'm fully on the grift right now.

Subscribe, gift subs.

We love that.

Mr.

Krabs communism.

Fully, Mr.

Krabs Communism.

We're on that Mr.

Krabs grind set.

Do you understand?

We're crabbing it up in here like a salty, crabby, patty emphasis on the saltiness.

Anyway.

Australia Stanny, that's a boy.

That a boy.

There we go.

There we go.

The grift is in motion.

Oh, this grift is working.

The breezy, we're grifting it up.

We're grifting it up with the Krabby Patty Secret formula, which is plankton.

Anyway, someone told me that.

I don't know if it's true.

Anyway, uh.

This is all money that's not going to Hillary Clinton, so thank God for that.

Anyway guys, um

What was I saying?

I just got so distracted by money.

I was mesmerized.

Anyway, yeah, next Saturday we're going to be going to uh

We're going to be going to Illinois, Carbondale, Illinois, and we're going to be doing a community service event there.

And uh we would appreciate people who come.

And we have no intention to provoke any violence, we have no intention to engage in any.

Sleeper cell, what's going on?

But uh one of our we're there to show solidarity with one of our comrades who was uh intimidated by a fucking ogre and a bunch of social fascist uh scum.

Anyway, um

So I have made that announcement now.

Now you know, if you're within seven-hour driving distance, I highly encourage you to come.

Harold, what's up?

What's up, Harold?

And by the way, uh there's other stuff.

So the election is uh unfortunately a fucking election.

Can the election wait for me to write more?

Anyway.

Is it for members only?

Uh members yeah outside members and uh

you know, frie fellow travelers, I guess.

Uh anyway, look guys.

Uh the election is on Tuesday.

I don't know what the fuck is gonna happen.

We're gonna be covering the election, obviously, live.

But, um, I don't know what's gonna happen.

Sleeper cell, with all due respect.

Sleeper cell, where are you located, first of all?

Um look guys, I'm hearing a lot about a Kamala victory.

Nashville, it might be too long of a drive.

I'm hearing a lot about a Kamala victory.

Uh Logo's confident trouble loses yeah, well, I see where he's coming from, frankly.

Stalin's pit bull.

Logo's confident.

I'm I I I share Logo's suspicions, frankly.

Uh his thoughts are the same as mine on this matter and on many other matters, frankly, but um

I think there's a strong chance Kamala is going to win, but that it's also rigged, that they're going to rig it.

They're just going to rig the election.

So if they rig the election, I imagine there's going to be instability that follows that.

What volume that instability is going to take and how long it is going to last is something that we are going to as a party going to wait and see about.

We have no intention on jumping in on the action because that's a Fed trap.

But we are definitely going to observe what happens.

Uh there will be instability if Kamala wins.

I'm almost certain of it.

I think we're all expecting that.

And um in the event I want to let everyone know a plan.

And this is not a particularly se it doesn't have to be a secret plan.

Sure, everyone can know about it.

Uh comrades in the ACP.

Um

In the event that things really pop off, and I mean really, really pop off.

Okay.

Of course, await orders.

But we are all going to meet in Chicago.

We're all going to.

Meet in Chicago.

And uh

That will be our national convoy.

Wherever we go from Chicago, we're going to be starting in Chicago.

So that's the plan.

The plan is if shit really, really, really, really, really pops off, we're going to be meeting in Chicago.

Of course, this may not be the day or the week of the election itself.

It could be weeks after.

But that's the plan.

Our it's not because the majority are in Illinois, it's because it's a central location.

And also, if you know, well, we have I'm not going to tell you our plans about where we're going to go after that, but

Trust me when I say that's the plan.

Uh, and uh, contact Kyle, Yankee, I will be in touch with you on Telegram, right, brother?

So, uh, let's be in touch about you know the party stuff.

Don't worry about it anyway.

Um

I'm from New Delhi and I joined the ACP.

That is uh verifiably not true.

But uh thanks for the fun, the hilarious idea.

Anyway, uh

So, uh, now I'm saying I'm telling you this because we plan on going to Carbondale next Saturday, but we don't know what.

We don't know to what extent, you know, things are going to be even more severely disrupted.

Uh, before then, right?

So, uh, that's the plan, and guys, I wish we had more time.

to develop our party before things get real.

Fate works in mysterious ways, and here we are, and uh I'm confident we'll make it through whatever's to come.

Uh in the most ideal scenario, nothing will happen.

And we will have more time.

The inevitable will come eventually, but we'll have more time.

And that would be the most ideal scenario.

But in the event that it's not that ideal, well.

We're gonna learn

How the steel is tempered, I guess.

Anyway.

And I and the fact that so many of you are waiting and eager for that.

And the fact that that those feelings are reflected in a huge portion of the American population tells you all you need to know about whether or not there's going to be a nothing burger or how l likely that is.

Uh make of it what you will.

Make of it what you will, but uh instability is coming one way or another, whether it's through a world war or through election instability, and our goal as a party is to weather the storm and survive it, and adapt to these conditions to the best of our ability.

So

Uh with that out of the way, I'm just trying to let you guys know there's a good chance shit's gonna get a little bit real.

The fact that I'm telling you this so brazenly and openly just shows how confident I am that, you know, this is gonna be interesting times ahead.

I'm not saying I know for certain that things are gonna happen this week or

In two days, I'm just telling you, we all have that feeling in our stomach.

And uh you know

The end is nigh.

So to speak, the end is nigh.

It's not just about the election, it's about international events, the regional the escalation in the Middle East.

I hear that Iran attends to strike pretty severely this time around.

The end is nigh, all right.

It is coming.

I may not survive it, you may not survive it.

In the event that we do, we have to

Keep the flame going.

Gotta keep it moving.

It's all it's about.

Keep it moving.

Keep it moving.

Deliver the message.

The end is nigh the in the digital cult on kick.com

Preaching that the end is nigh.

Well, the end is not really nigh.

It's just.

What would it say?

Shit's about to get real.

It's about to pop off.

All right.

I don't know what to tell you.

$1,500, nothing happens.

Well, what's your time scale?

Nothing happens in the next two years?

Uh because uh I'll I'll bet you uh a million dollars that something will happen in the next two years.

Next week or this week, we don't know.

We don't know.

But I will tell you guys something.

I don't want to.

You know what?

I don't want to do this because it's going to be controversial.

But let's just say.

Some of the viral stories about gangs roaming around is fake news.

But some of it is also not fake news.

I mean, it's, I'm going to be real, like.

The stuff about Venezuelan gangs

It's not entirely wrong.

Tell me I'm wrong.

Because I saw it firsthand in fucking Michigan.

Alright?

Shit was popping off.

And I'm going to tell you what happened in Michigan wi with respect to that.

The newly the newly arrived Venezuelan gangs are up to sh crazy shit.

I don't know what the fuck's going on.

But like that shit is real, or to some extent it is.

It's not even like uh completely fake.

Some of it's real.

I don't know, uh pff I don't know like what to what extent or how much of it's sensationalized, but it's not entirely fake.

Uh it's Venezuelan gang sounds based, but remember these are anti Maduro, anti government people that, you know, the US brought in as like political refugees or some shit.

They're they're they're not they're they're not quite based, guys.

They're definitely not quite based.

Definitely not quite based.

Um

In any case

Um

Gangs are forming all around.

It's not just them.

The militia movements are also preparing for shit to pop off.

We all know this.

We all know this as well.

It's not just immigrants, it's everyone.

Mm.

The elections.

Uh do I think Kamala will win?

Yes, I think it's a strong possibility.

And I think it's a strong possibility that she will win and that it's rigged.

And you know what the best part about it is, even if it's not rigged, even in the event that it's not rigged, guess what?

Uh half of the country is gonna say it's rigged anyway, so it doesn't actually matter if it's rigged or not.

Half of the country will say it's rigged anyway.

Frankly, I think it is it will be rigged, uh by the way, if she wins.

I find it very hard to believe she has the popular majority.

I know people are talking about young women who just love abortion so much.

But I don't think they're enough.

Compared to all the fucking people that care about the economy, I don't think they're enough.

I think the privileged college girls that just care about abortions are not those are the bourgeois.

Those are the bourgeoisie.

The majority of people care about the economy.

They don't give a shit about that.

You know?

Uh so I think we're being lied to.

I've seen so many TikToks of fat people saying forgive me for emphasizing fat, I just it's just the truth.

They're like um everyone's a Kamala supporter, but they're just like too scared of their neighbors.

Amila, Amila with the 20!

Amila with the 20.

We're crabbing it up.

We're crabbing it up, the crusty crab.

By the way, I tried two weeks ago, I tried Wendy's's Krabby Patty, and it tasted like shit.

It just tastes like a Dave's double with and you couldn't even taste the sauce.

It tasted like nonsense.

Not even good, but we're crabbing it up in here, thanks to Amila.

Amilo, what's going on?

Con keep the grift going, guys.

I'm a grifter, remember?

We're here to grift.

We're here to grift.

It's not like I'm spending all this money on ammunition.

Anyway

Anyway.

Uh

Let's keep drifting it up, guys.

Give me that yacht.

Give me that yacht, guys.

Give me that mega mansion.

Soon I'll be sleeping in my mega mansion with in my yacht at the same time.

It's gonna be a mansion that's simultaneously a yacht.

Simultaneously a yacht.

And that's what all this is for, just for me to pack up all the money and run from all of you.

And it was all a grift, it was all con, so keep funneling it, guys.

Anyway, um

It was all just a grift, 'cause I'm such a grifter.

Fucking grifters spending all their f money on

Sorry, I'm literally a sucker.

Like

A fucking idiot.

If you were a cynical person you would think of me as an idiot, frankly.

spending all the money that I make on

You, I spend it all on you, right?

And I'm a broke fuck who literally spends everything, nothing for themselves except food.

Anyway, guys, um, by the way, the food thing, I'm becoming more efficient with that.

Nowadays I am, because I have to, especially.

Uh alright, look.

What was I gonna say before I was interrupted?

Um

Uh, you know, as a matter of fact, as a party, should we become such a cult that we learn how to make our own food that's party-wide, standardized food?

Like, you know, I tried food in this was either this was in Donbass or somewhere else, but it was definitely in Russia.

And it was cracked wheat with minced beef in it.

And they said, This is what the army eats.

And I said, I could eat this every day, I don't need anything else.

This is perfect.

Bulgar.

Bulgar with minced meat.

Ah, perfect.

I didn't eat anything.

I don't need anything more than that.

You guys think I like eating lavishly?

I don't.

You know what I fucking get from the delivery meal stuff?

I get stupid, what are they called?

They're like meal prep.

I get meal prep.

I get meal prep, and it's rice, and it's chicken, and it's two boxes of those a day.

And then.

And then on a special occasion, I'll get some shit garbage food.

For a little bit of happiness in my life, and that's it.

But uh you know I don't have time to cook food, that's the issue.

Bulgar is very good, I like that a lot.

I like the military food.

I don't season the food.

No, I don't.

I don't even like fucking eating.

To be honest, the most luxurious, not luxurious, the tastiest thing I eat in a given day is my protein.

My ready-to-drink, by the way, protein shake, which is from GNC, The Ready to Drink.

That is my tasty, or that or an energy drink.

If I have an energy drink with no sugar, it's so tasty.

It's flavored.

It's a flavored, like juice.

It's like soda, pretty much.

It tastes like better than Coca-Cola.

But I have it for the gym.

Um that's my treat.

Uh Darg is gonna shoot me in the head with a Ray Pete gun right now 'cause it's sugar-free, but

Yeah.

What's my stance on Maronite nationalists?

Well, that's another thing.

In Lebanon right now, there's a strong chance that the Maronite the right-wing Maronite nationalists are they're being trained by the Emirates and by the Gulf states right now.

And there is speculation that as Hezbollah is fighting the Zionist entity on one front, that the Maronite phalange fascists are going to strike Hezbollah now because they think the leadership is gone and this is when they're going to be weak.

And um that is the situation in Lebanon right now.

And uh you know

Frankly, let me be honest about something.

This is a fifth column.

Can you imagine this, guys, if this was World War II and you're fighting Hitler or something, and you have a fucking fifth column inside your country that doesn't even I mean, the Israelis, quote unquote, they're destroying Lebanon right now.

They're destroying Lebanon and there's a fucking traitorist fifth column in the country that is cheerleading the enemy.

Right?

So

But all this depends on Iran.

Hezbollah can't do everything by themselves.

They can't.

Iran and and I'm hearing word that Iran is gonna do something very big very soon.

And I hope, I hope.

But uh it everything depends on Iran.

I'm Maronite and I don't so no, no, no, I'm not talking about Maronites in general.

I'm talking about, I said, that's why I said nationalists.

I don't know what else to call them.

The Ketaib or the, you know, Jaja, whatever the fuck.

The uh, the um the fascists, they're f that's what they are, they're fascists.

Yeah.

They're just fascists.

I don't know what else to call them though.

They're just f French colonial puppets.

They're fascists.

But no, no, no, I'm not talking about Maronites in general.

As a matter of fact, there's Maronites allied with the Hezeb, as a matter of fact.

But the country is under attack, the people are under attack, I mean you can't side with the enemy.

Um

So yeah, I mean

This is the situation.

And frankly, and you know how, you know, all you need to prove that all it's not about religion or any of that shit?

Because the fascists that I'm talking about, they're being trained by the Gulf states.

The same Gulf states that for decades and decades were funding Salafism.

They're now funding the.

It's all about money.

It has nothing to do with religion.

You know?

The thing about the uh Iranian uh women who's naked

Um

I saw that, and my frank thoughts about that are very little.

Very little thoughts.

I have no big thoughts about it.

I think the tweets were botted.

And if they weren't botted, it kind of puts our infrared Haas misogyny arc into perspective a little.

If it's not botted, if Western women actually do support that shit, maybe that retroactively justifies a lot of the edginess, you know, from me and Jackson over the years.

So I hope it's botted because I don't want to, you know, I don't want to believe that young women in America are that stupid.

Um.

And in the West, that you know, there's just support as a rebellion.

Oh, she's naked.

Who gives a shit?

Okay, I'll go outside naked.

Ain't that something though?

Like if I went outside with my dick out, I'd probably g you know, public indecency, I'd fucking get arrested.

Do I become a brave war you know, it's fucking stupid.

That's all you need to say to nuke the whole discourse, by the way.

I go outside naked and it's public indecency.

So she in Iran goes outside naked and she's a brave.

Get the hell out of here.

It's nonsense.

If you did what she did in America, you'd probably get arrested too.

Listen, you know what's stupid is that every culture has a different standard of what is indecent and what is decent.

For example, there's tribes in the Amazon And also, you know, I don't know what I'd call them, hunter-gatherer tribes.

I don't know what the politically correct term is.

But there's tribes where, you know, women walk around, you know, with their breasts out and men might walk around with their dicks hanging out.

And they consider that normal.

And for them, that's not indecent because, you know, it's not necessary.

I have a transition topic, actually, about this very thing.

Very good transition.

I didn't even plan for this.

And it's not, it's nothing.

It's not considered like erotic in any way.

Particularly erotic.

Now, speaking of erotic OnlyFans influencers, let's talk about Orthodox canonist.

Orthodox canonist, who is, in all likelihood, CIA, Mossad, State Department, directly or indirectly, I'm not sure.

But that guy's whole profile is dedicated to trying to incite ethnic and religious tensions inside the Russian Federation.

I'm not going to say anything further, but.

What I will say is that uh I can't say anything more, frankly, I can't.

But uh O Canonist, probably a threat to Russia's national security, and probably a fifth column, probably some kind of if he lives in any capacity in Russia.

I'm pretty sure he's a fucking Australian though.

But he is an enemy of the Russian Federation who is spreading ethno-religious sectarianism and trying to inflame tensions while Russia's at war right now, by the way, and it needs to be united, at least for now, you know.

Why do you assume he's a Fed?

I don't he may not directly be a Fed, but I think uh I think that that there's a connection, at the very least.

In any case, I wanted to make an observation about something.

He made a really disgusting tweet which said the American Communist Party is coming together.

To combat anti-Semitism in the United States, their main enemy are conservative Christians.

And they shared a video of us and all the comments and all the quotes these are people shocked.

They saw our convention.

It was a video of our convention.

It got 300,000 impressions, thousands of likes, and a bunch of people making violent threats against our party.

Uh from that post alone, and definitely boosted by feds, by the way.

Of course, feds are sitting in their fucking ass on their computers and laptops laughing.

They're this is the fucking attention they're directing at us, by the way.

Fucking stupid, retarded pieces of shit buying into this stuff.

Anyway

Our party came together to combat anti-Semitism.

Really?

Really?

What's your source?

Because he literally quoted to fight anti-Semitism in the United States.

First of all, I don't think the United States has an anti-Semitism problem.

I think the United States has a Zionism problem.

I think the people who have an anti-Semitism problem are brain rotted fucking idiots on the internet who are unknowingly being corralled and being herded into some fucking stupid Mossad-fed bullshit to discredit themselves in the eyes of the actual public who wants nothing to do with that shit.

Trust me, I don't think Jews in America, who are some of the most wealthy and upper class people as a demographic, majority speaking, are in any kind of danger or need to be rescued from anti-Semitism.

I think our country actually needs to be rescued from Zionism.

Frankly speaking, that's the truth.

We are against the JQ nonsense.

A, there's a multitude of reasons.

A, it's Fed bullshit.

Okay?

It's against the revolutionary cause.

It stymies and hurts the effort to actually build a revolutionary movement in this country.

It plays into the hands of the ruling class by sowing the seeds of an overall sectarian and racial division.

First of all, all right?

Second of all, it is, on a factual basis, it's wrong.

It promotes stupidity or promotes slop.

It promotes anti-communism based on misinformation, slander, and defamation against us as communists.

Third.

You understand?

Let's keep going.

Finally, third.

Yes.

Maybe 0.01% of our ranks in our party.

Yeah, of course, there's Jewish people.

Very, very small.

I mean, proportional, probably proportionate to the population.

And there are comrades, and we're not going to.

Just like we have Muslims and Christians, majority of our party is Christian, by the way.

Not a single ethno-religious group.

That joins that joins our party.

Sorry, let me rephrase that.

Not a single individual from an ethno-religious group who joins our party is going to have their lineage dishonored.

I don't care what their religious or ethnic background is.

We're not promoting racial and religious sectarianism, period.

Doesn't mean we think Jews are victims in America who need to be protected.

We don't fucking think that.

But it does mean we're not going to have any tolerance for any racial or religious sectarianism, period.

And that's it.

That's the end of it.

It's that simple.

The idea that we came together to fight anti-Semitism is a fucking lie.

That's not true at all.

We came together to fight Zionism, if anything.

Fucking idiots.

If anything I'm saying, like if it has to fixate on the Israel-Palestine conflict, then we came together to fight Zionism.

Um

You know, regarding Jews.

There's many righteous Jews and many wicked ones, just like any other group.

He do you know why uh

Anything else and um

Mm-hmm.

Period.

You people JQing and stuff.

It's just a distraction, frankly.

It's stupid.

There's all sorts of f I always say this.

I don't want to repeat myself.

I'm not going to repeat myself.

I'm not gonna repeat myself.

I've I've gone I've I've treaded these waters millions and millions of times.

Millions and millions and millions of times.

I've treaded it so many times.

I've gone over this so many fucking times it's not even funny.

I'm not gonna keep repeating myself.

But uh

99% of the time in America right now, when the anti-Semitism label is being used, it's being used by Zionists to silence criticism of the Zionist entity.

And that's just the truth.

Now, regarding the rise of Hitler worship and old canonist retard slop on social media, that is just a form of brain cancer and brain rot.

But until it actually leads to cases of actual like violence or pogroms or something against Jews, no, we don't consider the primary negative effect of that to be harm done against the Jewish community.

I don't see that harm being done.

The harm is being done to yourself.

The harm is being done to us as communists, actually.

Because think about it.

It's not promoting harm toward the Jewish community.

It's promoting harm against us.

Primarily non-Jewish, by the way, communists, because it's the Judeo-Bolshevism myth.

They're trying to attach.

See, I made one tweet, said the Bolsheviks were good.

And did you see how these vermin and scum came after me?

I want to be clear about something with respect to all of these threats and all this stuff going on.

Our party is not going to be like the old Western communist parties.

We are not fucking Gandhi communists.

Hear me loud and clear.

We are not Social Democrats or Gandhi communists.

We're going to defend our party.

We're not only going to defend our honor.

We're going to defend our security.

Any scum who makes threats to us, you're on our fucking list.

Period.

We're not going to be like the fucking old CPUSA.

Frankly.

Frankly.

We're not gonna let people roll over us and disrespect us and try to punk us out.

It's not gonna fucking happen.

Over my dead fucking body, literally, by the way.

Nobody's gonna make violent threats toward our party.

Nobody's going to see to those threats.

We have a constitutionally protected right to self-defense.

Let me put that out there.

This is the first time a Communist Party has been led by a Hezbollah Muslim.

When what what is a Hezbollah Muslim?

A Hezbollah Muslim means a tribal mentality

Son of first generation tribal immigrants who lived by a different code of honor and a different way of life.

And I'm the son of barbarians, and my background is barbarism.

So this is the first time a Communist Party in the West has been led by a fucking barbarian.

And we're going to do it the barbarian way.

We're not going to do it the Gandhi way.

We're going to do it the barbarian way.

I'm not going to repeat myself.

We are not Gandhi communists.

We're not social democrats.

You want to know social democrats?

I've talked about this in the stream with Eddie, all right?

The Social Democrats.

They don't have the muscles because they want to give the muscles to some other authority so they could go outside and do de the pinnacle of political action for them is holding up signs and demonstrating.

So that's the social democratic way.

Uh have stable conditions so that we could, you know, c c hand out pamphlets and, you know, demonstrate and, you know, uh do this and do that with our newspapers and that's the fucking social democrat way.

But the way of Bolshevism, and we are Bolsheviks, by the way, the Bolshevik way implemented in China by Mao, the Bolshevik way is partisanship.

The Bolshevik way is standing on business.

The Bolshevik way is self-defense.

The Bolshevik way is militancy.

That's the Bolshevik way.

We're not Social Democrats.

We're Bolsheviks.

Remember it.

Remember that.

Uh it's as simple as that.

It's very simple.

Uh, so we're not intimidated or scared of anyone's threats.

You motherfuckers be ready.

Better be ready.

I'm not even gonna talk or address these fucking idiots.

Frankly, let me say something that's actually really mean.

Anyone who voices a political opinion.

in public, but who isn't a Marxist is a child in my eyes.

You are a stupid small child in my eyes.

And I frankly am being honest with that.

A pre Marxist mind

Is basically the mind of a mentally retarded child.

Scared, confused.

Oh, then the Bolsheviks are eating the children and the m the Jewish Bolsheviks.

You're fucking retard.

And I'll tell you why.

I can elaborate on what I mean by that.

It has to do with the lecture I gave a few streams ago with respect to the question of consciousness.

Yeah.

By default, people do not have consciousness of the world of history, right?

The world of the relations of production, the mode of production.

They don't have consciousness.

So they get glimpses of consciousness, just like Whippets.

I told you, I used the example of Whippets.

You guys, ones if you remember what I'm talking about, remember the shit I say.

I don't say it for no reason, right?

They get bits and pieces of consciousness, you know?

So they get bits and pieces of consciousness, right?

The only real consciousness is Marxism, though.

Why?

Because the knowledge that is given to you by Marxism is the only kind that tells you you are responsible for the object itself.

You are responsible for responding to the real object.

Instead of cowering in terror over all of these subjective forces out there that are conspiring to define reality according to their aims, Marxism alone tells us that they're all getting it wrong.

That yes, there are all of these conspiracies are real.

They're all fucking real.

Probably every single conspiracy theory is true.

Yeah, the reptilians are there and the Freemasons and the Illuminati and the fucking eyes wide shut people and the Diddy people and whatever.

And they're all there.

All of them are there.

But what Marxism teaches us is that they're all failing miserably to actually fulfill their conspiratorial aims because they have no knowledge of actual objective reality.

And actual objective reality is a disaster.

It's chaos.

It's a crash site where all of these conflicting wills and conspiracies are coming together in a mishmashed, chaotic, and grotesque way.

And the result is this kind of nihilistic anarchy.

It's this breakdown of the human soul.

The only common denominator is this fundamental persecution of human beings at every level, existential, spiritual, physical.

And that's at the intersection of all of these different failed conspiracies.

And Marxism alone.

looks at that intersection, looks at that persecuted humanity, identifies it as the proletarian class, and initiates the process of real consciousness and real knowledge.

Nobody knows the proletarian class.

They're all fucking ignoring it.

They're all talking about the Illuminati and the Freeman.

They're all fucking going in every direction, fixated on the vain idea that there's a motherfucker out there whose intentions are in control and are successfully defining the course of reality and the truth is none are.

I'm not one to share private conversations, but I think he would be fine if I shared this one.

So I will share it with you.

You know, I remember speaking to Zachar Prilepin in private.

Um

into the long hours of the night where all of us Jackson were all you know at the table and I remember I was talking to him

And we were asking the question of who is in control, right?

And basically, you know, he told me, in Russian, he told me, he said, because I was trying to float a bunch of things by.

I was like, look, you know, it's a hegemony, it's a system, it's this group, it's that group.

Uh and then he goes, you know, some people

say it's these different groups, he says I don't think I don't think it is.

I don't think anyone's in control.

I think the way reality is going now isn't because someone has too much power, but because no one has power.

It's a result of our weakness.

It's not a result of the omnipotence of some omnipotent will.

It's the result of our own impotence.

And then, you know, he said that and he kind of got up and went to have a cigarette.

But I I really remember when he said that and he told me that.

He's like, the way he put it was much more poetic.

I don't remember exactly.

It was like, he's like, I don't think anyone.

Is all powerful.

I think everything that's happening is the result of no power, no one having power.

And

That's so fucking true.

That is so fucking true.

That is so fucking true, you know?

That really stuck with me.

Um

But you want to know what makes it so powerful?

It's not the fact that the conspiracy theorists are wrong, it's that this is true, and simultaneously all of the conspiracy theorists are correct.

Do you know how fucking crazy that is?

That means all of these different groups are behaving conspiratorially and trying to conspire to control these different outcomes of reality, but they're too weak to be successful and they're failing, and it's just producing chaos.

That's an incredibly

deep thought when you think about it.

Like the conspiracies are correct, but they're impotent.

They don't work, or at least they don't work as intended.

They produce unintended outcomes.

And no one is taking responsibility for the unintended outcomes.

A million conspiracy theories are in motion sorry, a million conspiracies are in motion.

And they're all, as they're being implemented, producing unintended outcomes, and no one is taking responsibility for those outcomes.

But you want to know who did recognize the outcome?

Marx did.

Jacques Lacon

My teacher

uh who I never met or knew or he was dead when I was born or something, but he is a teacher of mine still.

said that Marx was the first to discover the symptom.

For Lacan, what is a symptom?

The symptom appears to be an unintended and inadvertent effect of something deeper.

It's a symptom, right?

That's what symptom means when it comes to mind.

We say, oh, this is a symptom of, oh, it's a symptom of a more fundamental underlying disease.

But Lacan, drawing from the logic of cybernetics and systems theory, really.

Had this radically novel concept of the symptom where the real cause is the symptom itself.

The whole cause of a given system or a given circuit or loop, right, or a given consistent reproduction of a given, you know, a trajectory or pattern or habit, whatever you call it, is glued together by its symptom.

And the symptom is unintended.

It could be a slip of tongue, it could be this or that, but the very unintended thing, the thing that continues to return, continues to rear its head, that is actually the foundation of the whole thing.

That's the hidden and secret truth of the whole system is this seemingly inadvertent byproduct.

But the byproduct actually reveals the truth of the entire system as the fundamental basis and glue tying it together, right?

So this is the logic of the symptom.

And he said Marx was the first to discover the symptom, because that is precisely what the proletariat is.

The proletarian class as it emerges is a symptom.

It's not the consequence of the Illuminati or the Freemasons or even the consequence of the capitalist class.

It's an indirect consequence of all of the different wills in motion and intentions in motion in society, and no one's taking responsibility for it.

But Marx decided to.

He decided to recognize in that and this is why Lacan said, Marx blew meaning into the symptom, right?

He gave that meaning.

He said

This shows that.

There is meaning to all of this.

All of this madness of capitalism.

All of this madness of political intrigue and chaos and instability that Europe was experiencing at the time.

There's meaning to it.

And the meaning lies in the proletarian class.

The emergence of the proletarian class.

As the uh

You know the um

the standard bearer of a new epoch of history, a new historical totality.

So

Um how did we get here?

Ah yes.

Conspiracism.

So Marxism as a type of consciousness

alone acknowledges that um

You know, uh

I ign i i i i it not only acknowledges, it creates a form of knowledge

That is involved in its object.

And what I mean by that is that.

Instead of just talking about reality or trying to describe reality in many different ways as an individual, you know the very basis of your subjective position of a nunciation, and that basis is a social basis.

And once you know this, right, once you acquire this knowledge, um

You partake and you participate in uh in the conspiracy of history itself, which is not the product of anyone's intentions.

It's a rational process that is in the

The uh that is suspended in development, but which isn't the result of an individual's intention or will.

That's what Marxism understands with respect to the development of history.

History doesn't proceed according to our wishes and whims and fancies.

It proceeds in ways that are fundamentally inadvertent with respect to our various intentions and our various diverse individual states of consciousness.

Marx said Men and women make history, but not as they please.

And to think about what that means is that

The determination of history.

Mecca Timmer.

What's up, brother?

Thank you so much.

To think about what that means is that the determination of history does not occur according to um

According to uh s the the subjective whims of consciousness.

Once we acknowledge the inadvertent product of our reality, of our social intercourse, so to speak, we acquire a type of consciousness which um

liberates us and frees us from the arbitrary speculations, the frightening, you know,

Um

I mean, it's so stupid.

These these things I'm reading under O O'Kannon's post and his quote tweets, it's like uh, oh, the the the the Communist Marxist like there's no knowledge here.

None of this is knowledge.

It's all like

They don't even know what's going on.

They're just kind of like I don't know what it is.

It's like uh I f I feel like we're space aliens and we're looking at the reaction of like a different species that is encountering our existence and reacting to our existence.

It's so, so very bizarre, so very strange.

It's like what.

If only they knew the truth.

And what is the truth?

The truth is, is that Marxism gives rise.

to an ability to suspend the need to assume

That meaningfulness has to be attached to individual subjectivity.

That out there in history or in the s class struggle or in some kind of social conflict, right, at the heart of society, which is fundamentally impersonal, that that is actually where meaning is.

And that there doesn't need to be a conspiracy for it to proceed and for it to develop and for twists and turns to be taken with respect to.

to that and um

I think that is so interesting to think about.

You know.

It all goes back to the logic of the symptom, you know?

It's a very, very important.

I feel like I should even.

I'm not going to.

Every time I promise to write something, it never gets written.

You ever notice that?

Um.

But the logic of the symptom is very fundamental to Marxism, I think.

And Lacan's notion, he said Marx was the first to discover the symptom.

And the symptomal kind of thinking, you know, it's so radical because I think Lacan was probably the first to draw out that fact that Marx actually discovered the symptom.

Because Corvid, what's up?

Because once you read the early Marx under that lens to try and make sense of Marx's new kind of

Euphoric awakening to the proletarian humanism, you know, the humanism of the proletariat.

I think that when you understand it in terms of Marx acknowledging a symptom that no one else had before acknowledged, it makes a lot of sense.

When Marx regards the symptom as humanity itself, a kind of repressed, forsaken, and accursed humanity that is being neglected in some kind of fundamental way, but which nonetheless we are participating in, it it makes the early Marx very, very easy to read and understand where he's coming from.

But alas, I mean Ah

Everything is indirect and inadvertent.

It's like you intend something and the outcome is completely different.

Right?

And that is my response to all conspiracy theories.

Yes, all the conspiracies are real.

And you know why all the conspiracies are real?

Because they themselves, the Freemasons, the Illuminati, whatever the fuck, they think they have that level of control themselves.

They think, oh, I'm going to implement this.

They think that.

But in reality,

What does the Holy Book say?

God is also planning.

They plan, but so God plans.

But what does that mean?

It means.

The real plan

At the scale at which it's unfolding, it's radically, radically beyond the intentions of any any consciousness, any intention, or any individual.

It is an inadvertent product of

Of association between individuals.

It's an inadvertent result, or it's at least experienced as an inadvertent result of the, you know, the diversity of intentions and wills and so on and so on.

And that is the truth.

The real plan is not for you.

It's not your plan.

There's a plan.

It's not your plan.

It's not anyone's plan.

It's not a plan of a group.

It's not a plan of an institution.

It's the plan of our real existence.

And our real existence is not something we have the power to determine according to our subjective consciousness, whether that consciousness is elevated to the dignity and power of an institution or whether that consciousness is the whims and dictates of a single individual.

This is why MKUltra was leaked.

They wanted people to know the control they have exactly.

But when you realize the control they have,

doesn't fully succeed and produces unintended consequences, that's when things get interesting.

That's when things become very, very interesting.

But again, think about always regard and think about the practical consequences of a given stance.

If I'm going to make a claim about reality, that oh, this group controls reality, what are the practical consequences?

For Robbie with the ten, the practical consequences is that I will be a grifter who grifts.

To get ten sops.

Wow.

Wow.

The g let me see where we're at.

We are at are we at 889 or 899?

Because uh we are awfully close to the one.

We're eight eighty nine.

We are awfully close to the goal.

I didn't know we would get here this fast.

The November goal is 1,000 subs.

That's the November goal.

We're very, very close to it.

We're going to reach that goal in a matter of weeks, I think.

Anyway,

Um what was I saying?

Um

Put Subgo on screen?

No, I I I don't.

I never did that on Twitch, I'm not gonna do it here.

I never did that on Twitch.

I'm not doing that here.

I just need to stream consistently.

That's why I'm going to be streaming every day this week.

Monday, I'll be streaming tomorrow.

I'll stream Tuesday, I'll stream Wednesday.

Thursday, that's something else I have to talk about.

So, we're going to do the debate pretty soon, by the way.

I'm probably going to open up a space.

Soon, very soon.

I just need to talk about a few more things.

Listen, guys.

Uh i on Thursday, here's another thing.

We are having our 107th anniversary October Revolution celebrations in Chicago.

HB, what's up?

Yeah, we're having the debate.

But on Thursday, we are having a

Our 107th anniversary of the October Revolution, which

Thursday, okay?

Thursday.

And that's going to be in person.

I'm going to be in Chicago with the Chicago Worker School people.

If you've been there, you know, you know what I'm talking about.

And I'll be giving a speech and we'll, you know, we'll have a ceremonial, symbolic demonstration.

And we plan on celebrating that event.

So

Uh the uh but it's November.

I'm gonna be a nerd and like no the uh October Revolution is called the October Revolution because they had a different calendar at the time of the event.

On the on our calendar it was oct it was uh November 7th, but for the one that was uh in use at the time it was um it was in October 25th.

So I'm correct about that, right?

25th.

Anyway.

Julian can calendar, yeah, correct.

Uh anyway, um

Anyway, I think I stream fixed the stream lag, by the way, because uh I lowered the bitrate, and I think that is w Wow!

Mecca Chimmer with the fifty.

Wow Wow

We are very much

Wow, we are at nine hundred and fifty subs.

Wow.

Very much wow.

Don't know what to say except wow.

Wow.

Thank you so much.

Appreciate that so much.

Um

Anyway, um

Anyway, ah, what was I saying?

What was I saying?

Uh yeah, yeah, the celebrations will be this Thursday and I'll be giving a speech and we'll be having a demonstration of some kind.

And um that will I and I hope you can make it.

I hope you can make it.

I'm not gonna ask you to fly there.

You know, but you know, as many people that can come would be nice.

Because here's why: this is what I was going to say.

We are celebrating, okay?

We are celebrating and

You know, I hope to God, I hope to God.

Nothing crazy happens this week because it's going to be a celebration.

It's going to be a joyous time.

It's gonna be fun.

Okay, we're gonna give a speech, we're gonna have our ceremonial demonstration, and then we're gonna fucking have a really fun time, you know?

We're

I'm I'm gonna get cigars.

Uh I'm not saying I'm gonna drink because I'm not, but maybe you guys can drink.

I don't know.

Um we'll get pizzas or we'll get McDonald.

No, we shouldn't get McDonald's.

That's fucking disrespectful.

But when I'm saying it'll be fun, it'll be like a nice get-together, you know?

It'll be like uh I'm not gonna call it a party.

Mm, because it it's not gonna be like a ba it's not gonna be like a rager.

I mean, I'm tw that's pretty stupid, but it's like it's gonna be like a what do you call it?

Uh like a f like a f like a more professional kind of thing, you know?

But it's still fun.

Still fun.

Still fun.

It's gonna be a gathering, yeah.

Be a gathering.

Uh there's gonna not gonna be dancing unless Chris Hilali is there, which he's not gonna be there.

But uh it'll be fun.

A function, yeah, that's a good way to put it.

So I I encourage you to come, you know, don't think of it as like just oh, I have to come and like it's like a job, it's also fun.

I'm not gonna use that weird fucking French term.

Uh because uh I am not French.

So, you know, keep that one to yourself, anyway.

So I hope you guys can make it then.

Ah, besides the what I just mentioned, what do I have to say?

What do I have to say?

Ah, yes.

I hear that there's a.

There's a.

Oh, the sacred writings of Hazaldine.

Some nonsense schizo shit that's being passed around.

Uh, yeah.

Uh, check, fat, fact-check your shit, guys, before you look fucking stupid.

Like, treating shit as real.

That's just not real, alright?

Some random schizophrenic.

You know how many schizophrenics are in my fucking DMs?

I don't respond to any of them, but there's dozens and dozens in a given day.

And they all are.

They just attach to me like flies to a lamp.

Because, you know, schizophrenics have to talk to me.

And, you know.

I never get beautiful models in my DMs.

I never get, you know, I never get any of that.

I just get fucking schizophrenic.

Isn't that sad?

I don't you know, it's not like, you know, I never get anything on my DMs on X, on Twitter.

All I get are fucking crazy people.

And it's like, guys, I don't want you to talk to me.

Leave me alone.

If you're like a crazy fuck, if you're a normal person, you're cool.

I'm cool.

I'm not an asshole.

Like, I respond to you guys a lot, actually, when you're like, you know, you're asking for help with something, whatever.

But it's like, when you're like on some shit where you're like.

I don't fucking know, like, the seventh dimension, whatever.

Like, leave me the fuck alone.

I'm not.

I'm not, like, uh.

I'm not your I'm not a fucking machine elf, alright?

I'm literally a human being.

Yeah.

Bye.

Oh man.

Just crazy fucking people.

Machine elf.

It's very specific.

Yeah, I don't know.

I've been every time I shit, I go on TikTok.

Do you guys know that?

So I've been seeing some stuff on TikTok about some interesting things.

Debate went.

Now I'm going to throw a curveball at you.

I can't actually host the debate because I have 99% of these people blocked.

And I have them blocked, as you can tell, for because they're fucking, you know.

They're worthless.

They don't actually contribute anything under my replies or quote tweets, but they're I just fucking.

have no patience for retards.

Um but those who debate me, I will debate them.

So if you guys can host a space and then I join it and I can co-host it,

That'd be great.

I'm autistic, but I promise not to be a stereotype.

Uh, self-awareness is a good step, I guess.

Have you heard that the planet of

Mia is declared war on Earth and are launching laser attacks tomorrow at 2:30 p.m.

Ah!

Don't care.

Don't care.

Manlits cannot be stopped.

Yeah, that's another interesting thing about my great reputation on the internet: is that because I look normally sized compared to everyone else in photos, everyone else has been dragged down with me.

And now all of you are like extremely short.

Um.

So sorry about that.

But that's how everyone sees you, you know.

They just see you as like extremely, extremely just, you know.

Every time they show our convention, they're like, nobody here is above 5'7.

And it's like, it's like everyone is, except me, who's like 5'8.

Like, I'm the short one.

All right.

The short one is literally me.

And then almost everyone else is quite tall, actually.

But no, I've dragged all of you down with me.

You're all dragged down with me.

So, sorry about that.

Yeah, yeah, literally this guy's six two, but according to Twitter No, no, you're not below six feet, Chomos.

You're below five two, according to them, which it doesn't even matter.

It's such a stupid, like, topic, but it's like um I wonder if they say that about everyone, honestly.

I don't know.

Uh

Ask Zerk 6'2 is Manlet.

Ask Zerk.

Anyway, yeah, J uh Kyle.

Yeah, Kyle's 5'8.

Everyone knows Kyle's 5'8.

Danny Shaw makes everyone look short.

Danny Shaw is our NBA player, on party NBA player.

Um

Anyway, you know, I know I'm bringing it up because I feel like it's stolen valor.

It's like, no, I'm 5'8, and you guys are the fucking peasants.

You guys are the fucking, you know, normies.

I'm the one who's comically short compared to my personality.

I think about this all the time.

If I, if I was, if I, if, if, if I, if, I was like you guys, um, not like you guys.

But it would just be kinda stupid, you know?

Compared to my pretensions of being like a fucking warlord or some shit, it would be really fucking stupid if I was actually like very tall.

It would be really stupid.

It'd be like, yeah, but you're not as tall as your ambitions.

So the contrast would be even more

It w I would look stupid.

But if I'm short and I have extremely big ambitions, actually, um, there's poetic beauty to it.

If you make y you think about it.

Anyway, um.

Well what a stupid topic.

Uh, no, I think everything is for a reason.

Everything's for a reason.

Everything.

Everything uh all reputations are defined for a reason.

Everything is for a reason.

And I trust I trust the plan, whatever it is, fully.

Um

Uh uh all right, Kyle, I fucked up somehow.

What did I do?

Host.

Oh, Kyle, yes, host it.

Yeah.

I thought Kyle.

Kyle, I was like, shut it down.

Shut it down, um

Anyway

Yeah, Kyle, please host it.

Think I'm Napoleon.

I shared a video on my Instagram.

It's literally the funniest video ever, but if I tell you about how funny it is, it's not funny anymore.

But I was scrolling on TikTok once.

It was like this Russian woman in court.

She was telling the judge, she was like, I can't live with him.

He thinks he's Napoleon.

And then the camera just cuts to a guy who's dressed as Napoleon.

And he's just like standing there.

He's just like standing there.

Oh, it was actually so funny, but I just ruined the joke because I made it sound not funny.

Anyway, sorry.

That was hilarious.

Uh

What topic do you wish people would try to debate you on more often?

Uh I don't want to debate anyone anymore.

I kinda just want to just beat them over the head with a uh wrench.

That's a joke.

Um do I do I have to joke about that?

Like do I that I want and that I dream of it?

Like I'm not gonna do it, but I dream of it.

Anyway, um

That guy in real life is fucked up if you look into it.

Uh, of course.

Everything has to be deep.

Do you like any of the debaters?

I have to think about it.

The most high profile ones, no.

Debate anorexic people and why it's better to be fat.

Uh I'm the chairman of the party now, so I can't make these comments.

But

There are many tragedies in that realm.

There are tragedies where some women just decide to become skinny.

Um

you know, and and uh very skinny and it's like, Oh, this is in vogue and it's like who and it's like, Fuck, it's literally like kill you know, it's like a fucking crime, it's like a war crime.

They're like, Oh, it's vogue to be skinny It's like, What the fuck does vogue mean?

You know?

Um

Yeah, modeling.

Yeah, the here I'll tell you something about modeling.

Models are not actually attractive.

They're just supposed to look a certain way so that any clothes can fit them.

Someone told me this.

They're just supposed to look good in clothes for the purity of the fashion.

But they're not supposed to look attractive.

Uh

There's a name, bro.

How is there a name?

There's a name for this, and it's called the Gap Pocalypse on TikTok.

Ah, it's so crazy how like

Other people are thinking about the same shit I'm thinking.

Oh, Ice Spice started it.

Johnsta.

Like, what the fuck is the purpose of the?

Oh, the Ozempic crisis.

The Gatpocalypse.

Uh check telegram.

All right.

Let's uh get this space going.

Um

I have to use fucking blue stacks.

Oh, the stream's probably gonna fuck up, by the way.

Bad.

Jason

J Summit!

You guys know Jay Summit saw me in person, shook my hand, and decided not to tell me that he was Jay Summit.

He just told me his real name.

He was like, oh yeah, I'm uh I'm Fred.

Oh, nice to meet you, Fred.

Like, who the fuck is that, you know?

But uh

That's what he did.

Yeah.

Uh

Alright.

Alright.

Blazor!

What's going on, Blazer?

What's going on, brother?

Chris Chris Morlock, what is going on, brother?

What's going on, brother?

Uh okay, here I am.

Alright Joe, I'm here.

Uh Joe, I gotta change the name.

Something way more inviting.

But bring me up.

Bring me up, brother.

There we go.

Uh Joe, hold on.

Waylo, what's up, bro?

Joe, um, can you change the name to something uh like uh just like uh

ACP or or just through anti-ACP uh

Just put like deb anti-ACP debate.

I think that'll attract people.

Yeah.

Like the minute they see anti-ACP, they'll be like, uh, they'll be like entranced.

It's like bait, you know, you gotta get them to join.

Uh, Chris is here.

Should we let's start Chris up.

Uh, should he should I be called?

Uh, you should probably just be speaker because if you're co-host, some of these fuckers can't be added.

I'll bring Chris up if you want.

Chris, if you could hear us request

If if you want.

If you don't want to, you don't have to.

Yeah.

Uh

Um can't find him anymore.

I think he hopped in and out.

No, no, don't put records wanted, just put debate.

Anti-ACD debate.

Got it.

We'll see if they happen.

Yeah.

Alright.

Uh do you see any requesters?

Well, we've got one.

It's your favorite guy.

He was featured prominently in a CNN hit piece.

No, no, no Charmhole.

Alright, fine.

Bring up Charmhole.

Like, for literally for two minutes until someone else comes.

Alright, there you go.

Ah.

Alright what?

Fifteen, fourteen, thirteen, twelve, eleven, yeah.

Get him out of here!

He said hello and left.

Get him outta here!

The hell is that wasting time?

Nonsense.

Alright.

You guys gotta do your best to amp this shit up, spread it around.

Tag your favorite hater.

Tag yeah, t bring 'em, tell them to come.

This is their time.

I actually am gonna go uh I'm congested and I have uh shit in my nose, so I'm gonna go clear it out so I can speak better.

We are back.

All right.

I can breathe now.

I'll explain.

Charmhole says his shit crashed.

And now he's back.

You want me to add him back?

No.

Alright.

Um, you only get one chance.

Is there anyone else or no?

Not yet.

We only got eighty six so far.

Um see if I can have uh Eddie at least share this thing.

Uh wow.

Maybe, maybe make me co-host.

Can they really not join if I'm co-host?

I feel like that's a myth.

Um uh that's what they've said in the past, so when I was the ghost with Eddie it wasn't an issue, so

I don't know.

Uh you were dropped down from co host a couple of times and then people were added, I dunno.

These people are bitches.

Yeah, no one's requesting on my end either.

Fuck.

Not a single person will debate.

Ah.

Bunch of bitches.

Bunch of bitches.

It's really sad.

But they'll type in gibber and but they won't use their voice.

I I can never respect these people.

They're literally not even human.

They'll type in my replies nonsense, but they won't use their voice.

And there's men who call themselves men.

They can't do that.

'Cause every time they do use their voice, what?

Well then why are you fucking typing, you bitch?

Keep s keep silent.

Yeah.

We have one request.

Uh, bring 'em.

You triggered one.

Who?

Yeah, bring them up.

Hello?

This is not uh an enemy, Kyle.

Oh, why the fuck are you requesting?

I had a question actually.

Alright, but make it quick, please, 'cause this is for enemies.

No, this is not really an enemy thing, but it is a question about the ACP.

Yeah.

Uh what is the ACP's official position on the Khmer Rouge?

Because I've been hearing a lot of conflicting things.

We don't have an official position on that.

Alright.

We don't.

Because like as an Asian communist, I kind of take umbrage to all the pole pot kind of praising that goes around.

Well he was Asian himself though, wasn't he?

No, I'm aware of his ethnicity, but I think a lot of Asian communists, particularly Vietnamese and Chinese and you know, it's a very sensitive position.

Did they deport him?

No, they supported him.

They armed him.

Yes, they did.

They did.

It's a very contentious situation, but I guess I just want to clarify what the issue is.

Oh, yeah, we don't have an official stance on that.

Anyway, so I could see there's haters here, but are they going to request and are they going to request to speak?

Probably not.

Get loon.

Yeah.

Loon.

Rarely is a hater.

Bring up the loon person.

This is true.

Alright, are they gonna come up though or no?

'Cause uh some people just like venting, uh, but they have no intention on actually making any arguments.

They just like venting to the to the void.

Wow.

Huh.

I have invited Loon.

Let's see if they request.

Just keep tagging 'em.

That's the best way.

Oh, there we go.

Okay, Loon, what is your issue with the ACP?

Go ahead.

How's it going?

Can you hear me good?

Yeah.

Alright.

Yeah, I d I mean, I just disagree with the way that you know you tell tell right wing forces.

Okay, how are we doing that?

Oh man.

I mean, you just talk to fucking, you know, Trump people and that's all the people that you wanna recruit from, so

Okay.

Um do So what is your issue with me?

I mean you guys are the ones that are trying to get me.

Well the community is saying that you have a problem with ACP, so and you're saying we tail right-wing forces because we talk to Trump people.

It doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Can you elaborate on that?

No, it's no, it's because you tell them.

It's not just because you talk to them.

How do we tail them?

I mean I I don't

I mean, your whole fucking MAGA communism platform, I mean, that's what it's about.

So, I mean What's where where's the tailing going?

I mean, you said that Blue, do you know what tailism means, first of all, or no?

'Cause it sounds like you don't know what it means.

So, you know about the spectrum upon which advanced or forward or backward is defined with respect to the tail, tailing or leading or going in front or going behind, has to do with revolutionary stance.

So, the extent to which you are opposed and willing to overthrow the government.

So, if you're tailing behind the masses, it means you're tailing behind the masses to the extent that, for example, they have more reformist inclinations or they're not really ready to challenge the government and they kind of want to be tamer.

It has nothing to do with your cultural views on transgenderism.

So, please stop abusing the word tailism because you're just revealing your ignorance, frankly.

So, why do you feel like MAGA has won the culture war?

Because that's what you said in a space ago.

You know what?

I don't know why you're talking about MAGA.

I don't need to mention MAGA when I'm talking to my cousins or when I'm talking to random people on the street who aren't brainwashed by the institutions that you have been so deluded in your experience with to think actually reflect the views of ordinary people.

The overwhelming majority of Americans are deeply skeptical of the cultural adventures that quote-unquote progressive institutions are artificially trying to impose on the rest of the country.

You don't need to be a MAGA supporter to find that ultimately just not something that's working out very well.

And you know, I want to know how I know that because the very institutions themselves, even the corporations, even the media, they themselves are starting to rein in on the quote-unquote woke stuff because they realized it was a total failure and it's just not working.

Go ahead.

So, what does woke?

What is what does woke mean to you?

Go ahead, if, if, if you don't know what it means, um, and if that if you don't know, you're the chairman of the fucking party, so why don't you explain what it means to you?

I don't think woke is like something.

First of all, it's not the duck.

Wait, why do you use it?

Like, what the fuck?

Why do you use Loon?

Oh, yeah, you must only.

I need to get a word in Loon.

So, before I unmute you, I want a commitment on your part that you're going to let me get a sentence in because you're screaming into the mic extremely angry, and it sounds like you're just tilted about something.

I don't know what it is.

I don't even know who you are.

But please make the commitment that you're willing to allow me to get a single sentence in.

Go ahead.

You're unmuted, go ahead.

Okay, yeah, go ahead.

What what did you want to say then?

So I actually defined wokeness myself before.

I don't I actually think I'm gonna define it, but to be clear, I don't eat think I need to define it.

I think everyone knows what it means.

It's basically uh common sense as far as everyone's experiences are concerned.

Why even refer to the term anyway?

Why even get mad about us supposedly engaging in tailors or whatever you're talking about?

So if it's common sense, so you've made the commitment that you're going to allow me to speak without interrupting me, but you've already failed in terms of that commitment.

Are you going to let me finish what I wanted to say or no?

Go ahead, Loon.

defined w woke Yeah.

Uh woke wokeness is attempting to artificially contrive our cultural habits and sensibilities according to the subjective di dictates of political consciousness.

Okay, and do right-wing people not do that?

Are there not any conservative forces that do the same thing?

Or is it just the right-wing forces that are attempting to do that, if you could say that, are extremely marginal and not very represented in the mainstream institutions that rule society?

And to that extent, all it takes to oppose the quote-unquote woke stuff is to just be someone who doesn't buy into it and is indifferent to it.

That's the difference.

You can be someone who's completely indifferent and just immersed in your everyday habits and be canceled as someone who's insensitive and bigoted and stuff.

And you could be someone who has no political consciousness whatsoever and get crucified on the cross of being a bigot who crossed too many lines and is transphobic and whatever just because of your indifference.

Whereas the reverse can't really be said to be true.

When have you know when right-wingers attempt to overreach, and they have in the past, by the way, this was especially pronounced in the Bush years with the evangelicals.

I remember it myself.

When the religious fundamentalists would get super triggered over like stuff pertaining to people making jokes about religion or crossing too many lines when it comes to their sensibilities.

But there was a tremendous reverse with the rise of social media.

And this was a psyop to basically destroy the Occupy Wall Street consciousness that was in 2011, where so-called leftists started partaking in similar behavior.

Okay.

Can you uh define why you believe the ACP is the vanguard party and how it's operating as such?

What do you mean?

How do you feel like you're applying the mass line of the Mao Zedong and all these things to the American context?

Would you say?

Oh, because we're actually going down to America's working-class communities and deriving our position as a party on the basis of a dialogue and interaction with those communities.

And we're sending you a lot of people.

Shut up.

Shut up.

Shut up.

Haz.

You're forgetting.

Shut up.

Haz, you're forgetting that talking to the American masses is just tailing the right.

You know, this fucking thing.

Right, I find that so strange.

You're asking us about Mao's mass line while simultaneously accusing us of talism for partaking in just that.

That just doesn't make any sense.

Anyway, Loon, you said that you had a problem with us.

We're not here for you to ask me 21 questions and define a million different things.

Why don't you open a dictionary if that's what you're interested in?

If you want to critique our party, go ahead and do it.

Instead of asking me a million to define a million different things.

Can I ask you a question?

No, you can critique our party.

Go ahead.

Okay.

So

And a couple of spaces ago you said that it was unimportant to think about LGBTQ issues because it's kind of like a m minority population, right?

That's what sh what you said, right?

Yeah, be it's a form of navel gazing.

That's what I said, because it's a form of navel gazing.

Mm-hmm.

But, you know, LGBTQ people might be a minority, but the people who support them are not a minority.

It's actually a majority.

There's a lot of people that uh support the LGBTQ movement and people so.

Would you say the majority of Americans are okay with their children being exposed to um um sexual uh imagery in their school books when they're in elementary school?

Would you be would you say the majority of Americans are fine with their children being taught about LGBT issues in elementary school?

Okay, so we can speak on like specific issues.

Are the majority of American parents okay with their children in elementary school learning about LGBT issues, as you would put it?

I mean, defined learning about it.

Learning about the intimate details of, you know, like how to define your gender, that gender is subjective, that anyone can identify however they want to, that, you know, learning about gay sex, which were in public school libraries in Hamtramack, which is close to where I live, where the Muslim community overwhelmingly rejected the Democratic Party this time around in the elections, in part because of that, by the way.

Do you think the majority of American parents are okay with that kind of stuff?

Be honest.

So I would say that it depends on if it's in the curriculum of this, you know, or if it's like, you know, a teacher is like teaching their children about like, you know, different types of people.

What are you talking about?

Are parents okay with children, with teachers teaching their children about gender theory and gender identity and things like that?

Go ahead.

I mean, I don't know.

I mean, you tell me.

How do you know?

I think it's pretty safe to assume that the overwhelming majority of parents are extremely hostile to that.

When you say the majority of people in America quote unquote support LGBT people, I think what you're probably referring to is that they all agree that they shouldn't be persecuted, which I agree with that too, by the way.

So what's the issue?

What is this issue?

Why is it every time someone who is quote unquote supposedly agrees with us on every issue when it comes to foreign policy, you yourself seem to be repping Mao Zedong thought, which kind of sounds like you don't reject the fact that China is socialist.

So you seem to agree with us on everything, but I come up, I ask you, critique our party.

What's your issue with our party?

And it always goes back to this navel-gazing obsession with sex.

What is wrong with you?

Well, my my main issue is how you relate to people, you know.

If you're not very likable and, you know, people don't like you, then how are you going to win any support?

So it's not that you have issues with me or someone else or with our party, it's that you're making the assumption that we are disliked by others on account of my personality.

I mean, you're disliked by liberals, right?

Okay, can I ask you something?

What class background do you think the majority of liberals come from?

I mean, I don't know.

I mean, I I it's probably 50-50.

I mean, probably there's probably more conservative people that are in the uh you know.

More productive areas of the economy, I would say, but I mean So would you say that liberals are people who make a living um primarily from like institutions that are primarily about mental labor?

I mean, I would I would say that the people who support liberals, you know, what segments of the masses are liberal in your estimation?

Because even among sections of the American masses, such as like this used to be the case, for example, the black community supports Democrats a lot.

But they are not culturally liberal when it comes to their views on things.

They have deeply conservative views.

They're very religious.

They're very much going to church, a lot of them at least, every Sunday.

And they're still voting Democrats.

So even they wouldn't be colloquially regarded or considered as liberal.

Do you believe that there are culturally liberal conservatives as well, or like Trump supporters, I should say?

Um, it depends on the problem.

It depends on what you mean by culturally liberal.

I think Americans in general are pretty culturally liberal in the sense that they don't care about what people do privately or even individually, as long as it doesn't negatively impact others.

Um, so I think that's most Americans, to be honest.

So, you have to ask yourself what red lines have the quote-unquote liberals crossed for people to be regarded as conservative in this country.

And I think for you to say that the problem with ACP is, oh, you're too conservative.

You're this and that.

I think relative to other countries and other communist parties around the world, which I can attest to personally, I was just recently in not only Russia, but in Donetsk.

I think the ACP is profoundly less conservative than they are.

So, I don't know what your issue is.

I don't know what problem.

I'm trying to understand where you're coming from in terms of your problem.

And you're not really communicating.

I'm coming from it from an American standpoint, right?

So, my question to you would be: why do you feel like you don't have to unite the communist movement in the United States?

Why do you feel like because you call them leftist scum and we don't care about them and we're going to follow the MA people?

I mean, that's what it said in your.

Okay, who is, hold on, Kyle, let me handle this.

Who is creating the discursive barriers that are an obstacle to unity?

Is it us or is it them?

Both of you guys.

No, it isn't.

No, it isn't.

Because they started before MAGA communism was a slogan, which was from 2022, is when it began, that slogan.

They started it by calling us fascists right off the gate, that we're Nazis and we need to be shot and killed.

That's what they said.

This is what these fascists said to us.

They're the fascists, by the way.

But that's what they said.

They erected a discursive barrier throughout the outset.

I challenged all of them to debate.

None of them would debate.

None of them would have any discussion or dialogue.

Their minds were made up, and they erected a discursive barrier according to which a friend-enemy distinction was made in which they identified us as the enemy.

So who is the obstacle and impediment to unity among communist forces?

By the way,

Are you aware of Lenin's famous quote about unity or no?

I mean, not really, I guess.

Go ahead.

What is it?

Unity between Marxists or unity between Marxists and the enemies of Marxism.

In any case, I'm going to be honest with you.

I'm not going to sacrifice my party's ability to engage in open dialogue with the masses in the name of uniting a bunch of mentally ill, deranged people.

See, that's my issue, right?

So why should we as a party sit around and hold hands with people who happen to fucking use the same words that we do while sacrificing our ability to actually talk to the overall majority of the American working class who doesn't share our consciousness?

Why would we want to sit in a hug box and sit in a little circle jerk just what you're saying?

Because our party is literally open to anyone who is just willing to prioritize work among the masses rather than attending to the special snowflake field.

I mean, you're the chairman.

Name a single successful communist in the history of mankind who united the left rather than divided it very violently.

But you still gotta work a little bit to the market.

Name a single successful communist in the history of mankind who united the left.

Go ahead.

Portions of the left, probably.

No, no, no.

You said we are a portion of the left.

So I said unite the left.

Name us because that's what you told me to do.

Name a single one who did it and was simultaneously someone who successfully seized the reins of power.

You're never going to get everybody on your side, so that's not what I'm saying.

All right.

Well, we are the American Communist Party.

We are literally open to anyone who is willing to do work.

Why should I believe that you're the American Communist Party?

Why should I believe that?

Because if you tried to be the American Communist Party, you'd fail because you and a bunch of other people who have the mentality that you have are idealists.

You're idealists and you're sectarians, and you start dividing and bickering and canceling each other and taking everything personal because you're a bunch of infantile idiots, frankly.

Excuse my French.

You don't have the maturity to put aside your differences and put aside your personal views and resentments and personal opinions on things and just unite on the basis of selflessly devoting your lives to the cause of the working class.

The minute any of you guys are able to pull something like that together, I'll concede about doubting the possibility that we are the true Communist Party.

But none of you are able to do that.

You can't even fucking create anti-ACP Discord or Twitter groups without having fallouts every single week where you split up into a million different fucking sects.

You literally have splits in your anti-ACP Discords and Twitter groups.

You can't even create wrecker organizations that have a unified discipline of collective organizations.

You also fail to realize that the party was started by unifying a large, wide swathe of people from different parties.

We had people from the PCUSA come in, like 80% of their membership.

We had huge contingents of the CPUSA that folded into the ACP.

We had groups that were kicked out of the CPUSA, entire clubs, two of them, different states, join the ACP.

I don't give a fuck what you support.

You don't understand that you are talking about divide, divide, divide.

All we have done is unify.

So I super premise.

You've unified MAGA fucking people.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

The PCUSA was fucking MAGA people.

Let's be calm.

I'm not going to swear.

I'm not going to swear.

I'm going to be calm.

I'm going to be patient.

I'm trying to learn patience.

You tell culturally right-wing conservatives.

Loon, let me get a word in because you sound like an NPC right now.

I know you want to get this all off your chest.

We hear you loud and clear.

You're MAGA, you're tailless, you're fascist, you're this.

We get it.

We know where you're coming from.

You have a mental illness.

Can I respond to it or no?

Go ahead.

You're unmuted.

Go ahead.

Go ahead.

Go ahead.

Ball's in your court.

Do you want to hear my actual response to what you have to say?

Yeah, go ahead.

Midwestern Marx were not MA communists.

Eddie critiqued the slogan MAGA communism when it first started going viral.

So Infrared united with Midwestern Marx.

So to say that all we have done is brought MAGA people together is frankly ridiculous.

First of all, we haven't brought MAGA people together.

They're already together in the actual MA movement.

We've brought MA communists together, yes, but we've also brought people like Midwestern Marx into the fold and also people who are not necessarily going around calling themselves MA communists, but are orthodox Marxist-Leninists and we're sick and tired of the CPSA's revisionism, entailing of the Democrats, actually.

So you're completely wrong that all we're doing is uniting MAGA.

I mean, you don't even know what you're...

You're not even making the basic Leninist operational distinction between the masses and cadre.

That's where you're really fucking up here.

The MAGA masses, hypothetically, according to the theory, that's the masses.

That's not cadre.

Cadre are people who have advanced Marxian consciousness.

They're not the entire masses, right?

Yeah, yeah, but hypothetically, according to the theory, they represent a segment of the masses.

They don't represent the theoretically class-conscious, you know, cadre of the party.

So you're not even aware of these basic distinctions in Marxism-Leninism.

And you keep screaming about MAGA very loudly in your mic, by the way.

I don't know if you're aware of this.

MAGA!

You're really yelling it really loudly.

And I think you have a pathological issue with the MAGA thing that I don't understand.

Why are you crying about MAGA, MAGA, MAGA?

When have we ever strongly leaned on with your new essay coming out then that's liberal communism?

Let's bring those people in.

Never.

Because.

Yeah, so you're fucking tailing the MAGA people.

No, that's not how taillism works.

I'm trying to be patient.

You're basically saying that unless we regard fanatical liberals with the same significance.

So what are you saying?

Are you saying that the MAGA do we think that your average blue-collar MAGA supporter has the same significance with respect to revolutionary strategy that our raging libtard does?

We don't think they have equal significance.

So are we tailless because of that?

Is that what you're saying?

I have a question.

So are there excesses in the conservative people?

There's excesses.

There's the Groipers.

There's like, you know, far-right people.

And then there's MAGA.

They all hate MAGA.

Yeah, there's the ultra-leftist.

There's like, you know.

I mean, I'm not.

But they're not equal.

You don't even understand dialectics.

You're assuming.

Hold on.

You're assuming with respect to American politics right now that MAGA is the same thing as Kamala supporters.

And that's not true at all.

It's not true at all.

All right.

It's even absurd to think that fucking Groipers or anything like MAGA people.

First of all, you don't even know what MAGA communism is.

You clearly haven't read the substack.

You haven't read my follow-up long form article that I posted on X, which actually clarified all the criticisms of MAGA communism for a second time.

But you just know about the meme and you know about the phrase and you know about the outrageous significance and conjures in your head.

You're running amok with all these conclusions that you yourself have drawn without even understanding where we're coming from in the first place.

Originally, by the way, the MAGA communism phase of our movement, our movement, ours, right, is more or less successfully, it's successfully finished.

So we don't emphasize it anymore because the goals were already accomplished.

We've already successfully initiated the process by which we have entered into a discourse and a dialogue with the, I would call them the progressive and the elements among the MAGA movement that had progressive and revolutionary potential.

You know, we've already successfully initiated a dialogue and an ability to speak to them.

And by the way, everyone's a MAGA communist now.

You yourself probably.

Hassan Piker's become a MAGA communist.

Everyone has.

It's superfluous now.

It's not even like...

It's not even like you're not.

You believe MAGA has won the culture war and that's kind of why it's not about the culture war.

You are such.

I'm not going to swear.

I'm trying to be patient.

Listen, Loon, you're frustrating me a lot because it seems like you're trying, because you feel so passionately and strongly about LGBTQIA plus, am I missing something issues?

Because you feel so passionately and strongly about those issues, you are assuming that the whole MAGA communism thing was about that, and that's what it was all about.

And that is really frustrating because it's narcissistic.

Nobody cares about your navel gazing obsessions.

We're not obsessed with it like you're obsessed with it.

Would you say that you have a preference for MAGA people, the movement?

Do you know what our argument was?

Why?

Do you know why we started that slogan?

Do you know what it was about?

You think it was about culture war?

Because it wasn't.

So do you know what it was actually about?

So, what is the issue with leftists?

If it's not about the culture war, then why do you call them leftist scum and all this?

It's about a type of consciousness and a type of political environment in which people are more skeptical of the prevailing institutions of society and especially the media.

When liberal leftists are liberals are not skeptical as well?

No, they're not.

They ran cover for big pharma.

They believed in the Ukraine narrative.

They not only believed it, they were at the vanguard of it.

Bernie Sanders, what was that movement about?

I think Kyle was as well.

Rev was as well.

I was as well.

We were all fucking Bernie bros in 2015, dude.

You don't even know who you're talking to.

Bernie Sanders sold out to the Democrats in 2016, and his movement died in 2020.

Okay, why are you yelling about it then?

What are you even talking about?

I'm asking you, why do you believe that the MAGA base is more revolutionary than the fucking Bernie Sanders?

The Bernie Sanders base does not exist anymore.

All of the fucking people in the Bernie Sanders movement either went to Trump or they just stopped caring about fucking politics.

I'm just words out of my mouth.

There you go.

Because the DNC is corrupt.

I mean, that's mostly right.

So you're talking about a base that doesn't exist.

So why?

Yeah, what do you start talking about?

Liberals still fucking.

They don't exist.

They hear about the Bill Clinton base.

Like, what are you talking about?

Just because the DNC is corrupt doesn't mean those people don't.

Listen, Loon, liberals?

I just told you.

If you want to call Bernie people liberals, I mean, I don't think so.

If you recall, if you recall correctly, the Bernie base was actually called by liberals at the time Bernie Bros because they were perceived to be regressive and reactionary and chalvinistic culturally, according to them.

So you don't even know what you're talking about when you're using the word.

The idea that there's a still you're talking about Hassan Piker's viewership.

Please just be honest and tell me that's what you mean.

You're just talking about Hassan Piker's community because you're probably a Hassan viewer.

Are you a Hassan Piker viewer?

Yes or no?

Do you watch Hassan's streams on Twitch?

Not anymore.

I used to.

When?

When did you?

About the same time that Jackson uh Hinkle was viewer of

I've Hassan Piker as well.

So, is that who you're thinking about as Hassan Piker and his viewers when you're talking about the Bernie people?

Because I don't know what you're talking about.

What are you talking about?

You don't believe the Bernie base still exists or like in some capacity?

All right, let me let me I'm going to be charitable, Loon, because I'm not here to torture you and humiliate you.

I'm actually going to try to make this argument for you better.

I think what you're trying to say, okay, don't interrupt me, what you're trying to say is you think that if there was someone who had the balls to insist on a, you know, progressive, you know, progressive kind of more economically left-wing politics, that the same base that was galvanized by Bernie Sanders would could be reactivated somehow.

And that right now no one's representing them and they're being left, a lot of them are being left out and they don't have a voice really in politics.

Is that what you're trying to say?

Yeah, I would say so.

Yeah, well, we agree with you on that.

And we're so we don't understand what the issue is.

We don't think you think we are excluding it's Lun.

Let me let me be charitable.

I'm not here to like uh break your head with, you know, with a baseball bat.

I'm going to be trying to be, I'm going to try to have us arrive at some kind of dialogue here, and I'm going to try my best.

All right?

So.

We don't actually exclusively think that only you know die-hard MA support.

We don't, we know that there's people who are apathetic.

We know that there are people who are indifferent.

We also know that there's people who might shrug their shoulders and passively have liberal views on things.

And we're perfectly aware of that.

The miscommunication here comes from when, when you say liberal as like an equivalent to MAGA, we kind of have in mind like the fanatical Kamala supporters and because those people are all bloodthirsty warmongers who want to bomb Russia and stuff.

So of course we have no problems.

So I'm speaking of like culturally liberal people and culturally conservative is what I mean.

All right, I want to create a distinction here, all right?

Because my goal is communication and dialogue.

So I would say there's two kinds of people that come to mind when I hear the word culturally liberal.

There's people who are kind of passively shrug their shoulders, have liberal views.

They're just kind of open to others and they're, you know, they don't, they don't particularly, you know, they're tolerant types, if you could call it that.

And we have no problem with those people.

But the issue has to do with like the woke scolds.

And I know you're going to tell me to define woke, but I think you know damn well what I'm talking about here.

Who basically, let's say we're in a meeting in one of our Communist Party chapters, and the majority of people happen to be like white or something, or white males, or cisgendered, or ably bodied.

And they'll randomly make a problem of that.

So that is the kind of liberal we want nothing to do with.

And that's what we mean by that.

If you're talking about people who are more passively liberal, who are just kind of more indifferent and therefore also kind of more passively liberal, sure, but when we're talking about people who like.

You know, are scolding, the scolding types.

That is what's coming to mind when you're using that word.

I don't know if that's what you intend or not, but that's why I think there's a problem with communication here.

So, would you say that you're culturally conservative to some degree?

On a personal level, you're asking me on a personal level?

Yes, far more than American conservatives on a personal level.

But all that means is that it has to do with my personal life.

It doesn't have to do with like how I don't, I'm not a judgmental person.

You represent the party to some degree, though.

I mean, you're the chairman.

But I also have a private personal life that is not party business.

And so, as far as the rest of the leadership is concerned, would you say that most of them are liberal?

I think these distinctions are not very meaningful when it comes to communists because I think communists would be classified by liberals as very conservative in general, but I think communists themselves.

I don't think Communists we are not ideologically conservative, but I think Communists have conservative intuitions and sensibilities by default.

And I think that's true for all Communist parties, almost all major Communist parties in the world.

History.

I'm not like, I wouldn't say that I'm like an ultra-liberal or anything like that.

But I would say that the, you know, history speaking, you know, it kind of trends in that direction of being more progressive.

Yeah, I think that's a completely false understanding of history, which is based in American liberal progressivism from the early 20th century.

It has nothing to do with Marxism.

So Marxism doesn't say that, you know, culturally speaking, the more we become loose and the more we become deterritorialized and the more we become jellyfish, the more progressive we are.

That's not the Marxist view with respect to what progress means.

So I have a question as far as like, let's say that your party wins the, what is it going to be, a military coup or I don't know how you foresee coming into power in the next 20 years or whatever it is.

But let's say 20 years from now, will you have a policy on the transgender issue?

But why would we need one?

I'm I don't I mean I'm just having a question for you.

I mean 'cause 'cause I see Jackson Hinkle, you know, he retweets a lot of stuff as far as like Russia's uh, you know, law laws with regards to like LGBTQ people and stuff, and he seems to be Do you think Jackson's uh engaging in any kind of misinformation with respect to that?

Not as far as it being misinformation, but he seems excited that Russia is not aware of the money.

I'm going to go ahead and take a leap here.

I actually think Russia has very good laws with respect to issues like this.

I've been to Russia many times.

I mean, relatively speaking.

I've been to Russia, actually not many times, but I've been there long enough to have an idea and have a pulse on the extent of, you know, quote unquote social conservatism.

Russia experienced liberalism after the 90s.

I mean, it's not like Russia is like Afghanistan or something.

It's not.

And Russians are not, you know, Russians are normal people.

But because their ruling institutions don't have these quote-unquote progressive agendas to change society's sensibilities artificially, it's depicted by the West as incredibly backward and aggressive.

Not because it's curtailing people's freedoms.

It's not, actually.

I mean, for example, LGBT identities are not criminalized in Russia.

What's criminalized is propaganda aimed at children.

That's LGBT in content, which I think is pretty reasonable, actually, to be honest.

Yeah, I mean, it would depend on how you define propaganda, right?

Like, if someone's just existing on the street and it's like a man wearing a dress or whatever, right?

Is that propaganda?

Yeah, but that's not criminalized.

What would be criminalized is something like a pride parade in the streets where people are naked and engaging in sexual acts.

Yeah.

That's not just propaganda, by the way.

It's public indecency.

Yeah, I mean, it would depend on how the, you know.

I don't know Russia's entire laws and everything in terms of that.

Russians are very modern, at least in Moscow.

They're very modern.

And other major cities as well, obviously.

They're very modern.

And.

You know, I don't think there's anything wrong with their views on these things, to be honest.

And I don't think they are alien to the sensibilities of your average American, frankly.

I think every time Americans go to Russia, unless they are like a liberal, ideologically fanatical liberal, they get the strong impression that, wow, this just makes so much more sense, and I wish we were more like this.

Yeah, I mean, I support Russia, you know, as far as like the military, the economy, I feel like they're going in a better direction.

But, you know, I don't support necessarily all the culturist stuff as far as.

Cracking down on LGBTQ people.

The movement, I mean, it defines on how you do it depends on how you define the movement, right?

So.

Um, all of that, you know, all the extreme stuff, like, you know, being naked.

The issue, again, I've look, you can just watch my stream with Daniel Tutt.

I don't know if you've seen that, and I've basically fully elaborated what I think on the whole thing.

You know, the issue for me has to do with the quote-unquote critique of heteronormativity, and that's what we reject.

We don't want to exterminate minorities.

We have no interest in interfering with the private business of adults.

We just uh

do not want to encourage the tendency of communists being marginal on the margins of society in all respects, not just with respect to their sexuality.

So that's our view.

Okay.

That's all I have to say about.

I do have a follow-up question, actually.

You made a post on the 13th of October, and you said I probably won't be able to join any professional organization again due to my mental health issues, and also because I like having a bit more freedom in my posts.

I plan to donate to ACP Main once that option becomes available to tentatively support the party.

So I'm just curious what changed between last month.

I don't agree with the way the leadership talks to people sometimes.

And it's not a personal thing necessarily.

I don't feel like you'll win support with being that way, is my main question.

Win support among who?

Because we need to be clear about what we're talking about.

Liberals or left-wing people?

I just gotta ask.

You're so wrapped up in the liberal thing.

I just don't.

Hold on, Kyle.

Let me just ask a basic question.

So, Loon, would you say sectarianism is a big problem on what little remains among the left-wing in America, if there is any at all?

Yeah.

I mean, that's a problem, isn't it?

And frankly, look, it's ugly, but it's just the truth.

There were a lot of people from the Bernie camp.

and they started to become the target of like Alexander Reid Ross and these kind of anarchistic types, and they called them like Nasbulls and Red Brown and all this kind of stuff.

And before infrared was even a thing,

The tankies, quote unquote, were under attack, who supported fascist states like China and Russia, whatever.

And they were being accused of being red-brown and all this kind of stuff.

So, whether you like it or not, a hard line is going to be drawn by a muscular, I don't know if that's too culturally loaded for you, but a muscular left-wing, a strong left-wing, a left wing that's actually a left-wing, not a Democrat appendage, not liberals, a real left-wing.

If that ever emerges in this country, it's going to be categorized by liberal.

It's going to turn off a lot of these liberals and left-wing people that you're talking about, quote-unquote, left-wing people.

Because real left-wing politics is muscular, it's proactive, it's aggressive.

Do you need muscle to shoot a gun?

Question?

What I mean by muscular is a willingness to defend and stand on an independent political power.

And liberals can't do that.

No, because they depend on the Democratic.

Conservatives can do that.

Well, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say something.

Not conservatives in the sense of Republicans, because they're pussies 100%.

I mean, they can't do anything.

But.

I think, yes, to build any kind of independent authority, key word is authority, right?

There takes a great degree of what we would otherwise say, we would call them conservative sensibilities, which has a lot to do with a strong sense of discipline, a strong sense of respect for authority, a strong sense of self-sacrifice, a strong sense of numbing and blunting your personal feelings in the name of doing what is necessary.

And those things are.

What authority are we respecting then?

For example, a left-wing political party, right?

Of some kind.

That's not the Democratic Party.

Of some kind, but is that a Marxist party or is that just well?

We regard it, Kyle and I regard it as the American Communist Party.

But it could be hypothetically any independent left-wing movement or political party or even, you know, personality, if Bernie had balls, let's say in 2016, that decided to insist on a left-wing politics.

So it could be anything.

But regardless, breaking away from the liberal jellyfish Democrats, yeah, you have to grow a spine.

And growing a spine is a very violent thing, even not necessarily physically violent, but it's a very violent, abrupt, and aggressive thing.

And it's definitely something that's very easy to categorize as like right-wing coded or conservative or something.

If you looked at the militancy and the discipline of like the Red Army during the Civil War or during the Great Patriotic War or the KGB or like communists historically who were guerrilla fighters, they would be regarded by jellyfish liberals as fascists just because they had a backbone.

And this is a reality Americans need to understand that our cultural codes where we code something, oh, this is right-coded, this is left-coded, oh, this is conservative-coded, this is liberal-coded.

It's all warped and jumbled and messed up.

And it's precisely designed, I think, if I'm not being too conspiratorial, in such a way that makes it impossible for a left-wing, dissident, and revolutionary movement to ever take form.

Because if you're turning all of the self-proclaimed left-wing people into spineless jellyfish, and if you are categorizing having a spine and collective discipline and solidarity and selfless collectivity, if you're identifying things like this and coding them as fascistic, you know, with like Starship Troopers and Hollywood's media and Star Wars, whatever, then you have a situation where only the right wing is allowed to be militant and strong and powerful.

And the left wing has to be weak and, yeah, I'm going to say it, effeminate, not manly, not masculine.

And they have to be like, you know, they have to be passive.

That's the perfect scenario for the state and the ruling class because it takes away from the revolutionary ideology, the revolutionary actuality.

It takes away.

They keep the revolutionary pretensions ideologically and theoretically, but the muscle behind it is given away to the right wing.

Co communism shouldn't be effeminate, is is what you're saying.

Uh it's not just that it shouldn't be, it's that it can't be and has never been in history.

Mm-hmm.

Are women effeminate?

Um, you know, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that communist empowerment of women.

Was opening women up to roles and duties that were beforehand typically masculine.

I quoted it or associated with only masculinity, men.

But the reverse was never true.

It never opened up feminine pursuits to men.

Communism has never done that.

It's never, it's allowed women to be feminine, sure, to continue to be feminine, but it's never opened the door for women to start acting like a woman.

Why do you always harp on the past so much?

Why can't we go in the future?

Well, the reason I'm focusing on the past is because I don't appreciate us being labeled as right-wing and all this kind of stuff when we're just in continuity with what has been the norm for communists since forever.

If you have an argument as to why we should tolerate...

But Marxism is an evolving theory.

Yeah, no, no, I understand that, but you also need to present the rationality of how, in tandem with the development of history and the productive forces, you know, that for some reason we should revise our view on this matter.

And I haven't ever seen a convincing argument on that front.

Yeah, I mean, I just feel like your party should try to be more open to liberal people.

I mean, I'm not.

We don't test people.

Like, people who are in our party, you know, may sound not very we don't, you know, I think this is I take issue with this idea that we like have these rigid boxes and identities we impose on people because we don't.

We don't really like create definitions and like impose these rigid standards.

We just kind of see it more as a common sense thing.

And, you know, if people, we don't, we cut people's slack.

We don't tell people that they have to sound a certain way or talk a certain way.

That's just aesthetics nonsense, right?

We care about the content, the meat and potatoes.

And if people can act as disciplined soldiers in the army, if they can act as comrades, if they can get work done, if they can, you know, prove that they have the discipline to follow collective initiatives, if they can just prove that they are able to competently fulfill goals, we don't really care about.

The culture aspect that much.

It's just that we've made the observation that oftentimes there are cultural characteristics associated with certain, you know, certain behavioral propensities.

Now, we could be wrong about that.

You know, we could be presented with exceptional cases that would force us to revise our views.

So it's not a dogma on our part.

But us having this kind of reasonable, pragmatic sensibility and intuition is not, I don't think it's fair to call that taleism.

I think it's just practical knowledge that we have, to be honest.

Well, I don't believe that we should tell liberals either, if that's not already clear.

Well, I mean um

Look, uh

We are not interested in cultural ideologies.

We don't think culture has anything to do with the fulfillment of the cultural revolution in China.

Did you support that?

Curious.

Yeah, but I'll tell you why, actually.

So, the cultural revolution in China had it was double-sided, right?

On the one hand, there's the superficial reading, which is that it was this vain attempt to purify all culture.

And by the way, the cultural revolution in China.

Um, was not liberal in any capacity, it tried to eradicate all kinds of expression of culture that were not uh, that did not submit to the collectivistic discipline of the revolutionary idea.

So, conservative culture, right?

I mean, destroy the four olds or whatever it was called.

That was in the beginning, and that had to do with a lot of old statues and things.

But when it came to sexuality, it was profoundly far more conservative than even the four olds from the past.

It was to the point where if we're not even talking about sexual deviancy, that was very much persecuted in the Cultural Revolution.

But even normal displays of sexual affection between men and women were persecuted at some points and in certain instances.

So, the cultural revolution was profoundly conservative in many ways, and even xenophobic.

For example, I remember reading about how classical music, in some instances, was denounced and opposed for being foreign and bourgeois.

Bourgeois, probably, and both, really.

And so, yeah, the attacks against feudal culture were not attacked against like you know, anything to do with sexuality.

If anything, it was in the opposite direction.

It was profoundly.

Do you believe the United States should have a cultural revolution in the future?

We already are.

So, here's: I was going to tell you my view on the cultural revolution and how it was twofold.

So, the cultural revolution had a lot to do with an increasingly artificial rise of the mass production, more or less, of our society, of all the things that inform us about our habits in society, our values in society.

With the rise of consumerism in the United States, this is abundantly clear.

Almost every aspect of culture is being mass-manufactured.

But also in China, with the changes in relations of production brought about by the construction of socialism, the awareness of how much subjective discretion is there when it comes to the production of light consumer goods, let's call it that, right?

Cultural objects that became acutely felt, right?

So, the cultural revolution seized upon that as an opportunity to denounce to indirectly, first directly and indirectly, frankly, symptoms that were being felt at this level of a kind of emergence from the ranks of the Soviet technical specialists and other kinds of bureaucrats, Soviet-trained technical specialists and bureaucrats.

This new kind of apolitical, ideologically indifferent technical intelligentsia, which kind of had a cynical regard for the subjective element when it came to the construction of socialism in terms of belief, in terms of genuine belief, in terms of the genuine revolutionary idea, right?

And the significance of that was twofold.

On the one hand, obviously, attempting to define culture subjectively, ideologically, it's completely against materialism, and that was vain, right?

That failed, by the way.

Mao acknowledged it failed.

But on the other hand,

This new opportunity to basically search for the true revolutionary essence, which eventually created this kind of criticism of the party bureaucracy, empowering ordinary peasant masses to who were, you know, newly educated in the cities to have a subjectivity, to have a voice, to be recognized, that profoundly animated and defined.

China's political trajectory on the basis of an involvement with the Chinese masses.

Never before has the Chinese subjectivity been awakened.

Before the Cultural Revolution, you had a kind of Soviet-trained technical intelligentsia ruling over millions and millions of Chinese peasants without necessarily without their active participation.

So even after the Cultural Revolution,

Uh i i the progressive effect it had was this

Empowerment of the voices of Chinese masses, their feelings, their sentiments, their whims, their subjectivity, still to this day is a fundamental factor of governance for the Communist Party.

They call it promoting the overall happiness of the Chinese people, something like that.

So, you know, it's twofold.

So, should we have a cultural revolution?

Well, here's the thing: we did have our own farcical, and we are having our own farcical version of it, but it's a farcical version.

It's a one that is as much of a cultural revolution as Hitler implemented socialism.

So, it's a completely farcical, kind of inauthentic mimicry of an original revolutionary thing that has been warped by the degeneration of capitalism and neoliberalism.

And unlike China, there doesn't seem to be a way out for us.

We are descending into a spiral of insanity and subjectivism, but we don't have a kind of wise Deng Xiaoping or even Mao himself to basically ascribe this process with any kind of goal, with any kind of idea, with any kind of lofty aspirations.

You know, China's cultural revolution, at least.

However destructive it was, the aspiration was like, you know, the the rise of the whole Chinese masses, you know.

But the one that's happening under neoliberalism today is incredibly divisive with respect to any kind of popular sovereignty.

It's not, it's, it's preventing that, it's, it's dividing people, it's not allowing for any kind of recognition of the whole people as a subject in any capacity.

So

Um so uh we don't need to have a cultural revolution.

All we need to do is uh

is learn from Deng Xiaoping and learn how to recover from the the cultural implications of a transition into an information based society

Which had happened under capitalist neoliberalism, which produced a disastrous cultural environment.

And we have to learn how to recover from that.

And to learn how to recover from that means to adopt a revolutionary outlook that, on a mass scale, which is unprecedented, which is not the cultural revolution in China, but is more like a popularization of Deng Xiaoping thought, if you will.

A kind of sobering up and acknowledging our collective responsibilities.

That we're facing environmental catastrophes, we're facing the prospect of world wars, we're facing the prospect of societal decay, industrial infrastructure decaying, and all these kind of problems.

And we need to have this kind of sobering up where not becoming immersed in ideological enthusiasm, but more kind of having more of a sense of the real, like the real of you know.

The objective, this ruthlessly objective hurricanes that will come and devastate us and wipe us out.

They don't care about our ideas, they don't care about our subjectivity.

We have to acquire a quote-unquote subjectivity that is responsive to that, that is humble before these facts.

So, you know, that's what that's my view on: you know, do we need a cultural revolution?

I don't think so.

I think we need a revolution at the level of.

Of the objective, not the subjective.

Which which is to say we have to submit and respond to objective tasks.

not invent subjective problems from scratch.

Never.

Any more questions for me?

Well, I just want you to be honest, after having this conversation, what what is your objection to our party still?

Because, you know, clearly you've been exposed to a range of views by people on Twitter who you disagree with, but what if I told you that there's people in our party who probably share your cultural views and, you know, they're not ostracized.

Well, not my my question would be are they represented i in their leadership in some capacity?

Um it depends on what you mean by that, but because for example, the leadership isn't finalized yet.

We're still in the process of forming leadership.

But um let me ask you a question.

Are you able to tolerate people who are culturally conservative, even religiously conservative?

Could you tolerate and coexist with them in a party?

Yeah.

Then there would literally be no issue.

The problem are people who like draw these d create these discursive barriers and say, No, this person's a fascist and they you know they're trying to nail them on the cross of an extreme, you know, position they don't even have just because they, you know, are happen to have conservative views on things.

So honestly, if you could just be able to coexist and work alongside people who differ from you when it comes to their cultural views, there wouldn't be an issue, straight up.

Yeah, I mean, I just have to see what happens with the party, you know.

Like, uh, it's so how how long has the party been?

Like, three months or something?

Three months, but you have to admit, I mean, it's probably not easy doing what we've done so far in so little time.

I mean, would you admit that or no?

I mean, it's probably not an easy thing.

To do what we've already done.

I'm impressed with the growth in all these things.

And it's not just growth, it's the ability for.

You know, I mean, look what chapters are doing.

We're not ordering every.

We're not even ordering this stuff.

They're just doing it and taking the initiative.

And nobody's holding up signs, you know, trying to protest culture stuff.

People are trying to help their neighbors out.

People are trying to create organization and respond to the most objective issues.

We're really objective problems, you know, hurricane relief, things like that.

Really, my only problem that would ever be with your party would just be the leadership.

And I just have to wait and see.

What's the issue with the leadership?

Be more specific.

Me?

What's the issue?

Just on capacity, I would say, yeah.

I mean, I just don't feel like.

it it seems like you just push people away, like, with your language, you know, with the way you deal with l opp opposition and uh I don't I don't think you're aware, but I have to go out of my way to encourage opposition in the party because

Is there a lot of opposition in the party?

There isn't, but that doesn't mean it's not allowed.

It is.

It's literally in our constitution.

It's just that it's not my fault that people at the convention unanimously voted to ratify our constitution and program.

But doesn't that kind of show something, though, kind of?

I mean, I think it shows a tremendous degree of unity, frankly.

Yeah, among like your people.

No, these are not all my people.

These were people that came from all over.

And if someone is hiding their views, we would be very disappointed about that.

I feel like you've probably pulled from socially conservative people and all the other parties, and they've kind of again, it's like, why are you constantly focused on the culturally liberal?

Listen, Loon, I need to understand something.

I don't want to partisan.

Loon, let me make this more understandable to you.

We are all just straight up normal people.

Like, I went to the after parties, a few of them.

People are literally just like having beers, like, you know, eating pizza, whatever, just chilling, talking, telling jokes, being funny.

I mean, maybe i people are telling jokes that might offend you.

They're too politically incorrect.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I can't say.

But, like, there there's no like pressure to like, we're not.

Nobody's like, I don't know what the issue is.

Like, nobody is making a problem of anything.

I've already said what my issue would be.

It would be with the leadership.

But the leadership isn't, the leadership isn't like that either.

We're all chill, too.

No, no, that's fine.

It's fine that you're chill and all that.

I'm just saying that I don't want the leadership to just be all socially conservative, guys.

There's going to be an agenda, obviously, if that happens.

Wouldn't you say?

But Midwest, I mean.

Um I don't know.

So we would have to have affirmative action for people who like have socially liberal views.

It doesn't make any sense.

I mean why why why are liberal minded people not interested in joining the party?

I look I I want to be real with you Loon let me put it this way.

Maybe this will make sense.

Do you think people are really liberal in a state of war?

What do you feel like what was Mao's position on that?

On the United Front and all these things?

Mao was definitely not socially liberal.

I'll tell you that.

Definitely.

For the time, though.

No, he wasn't.

No, he wasn't.

I think this is also a big deal.

For the time, though.

No, no, no.

The idea that there's like a there's oh, relative to the time that there's like an arrow of progress that goes up in a direction with respect to the evolution of cultural tolerance, right?

Is a neoliberal idea.

Because the idea is that the more time passes, the more individual self-expression culturally is tolerated.

And that's not true for tolerance is a neoliberal thing.

How does that make sense?

When it's individualistic, yes.

If we're talking about the evolution of culture at a collective level, it has to be compatible with the reproduction of the collective existence.

And it doesn't make a whole lot of sense that the proliferation of LGBT ideas would be considered progressive by communists because it's only progressive with respect to freedom for the individual.

It doesn't have anything to do with the determination of the collective, which has to actually reproduce itself through would you consider the rank and file of your party, are they pretty much anti-trans, all these things, would you say?

Not, I mean, I look, we were, I was at the after party and I conversed with everyone and I the topic was never brought up.

That's the issue.

That's why it's so difficult to respond.

It's like the topic was never even brought up.

Kyle, did you ever hear it being brought up or no?

When it is brought up, it seems to be a big issue for you guys, though.

When it's brought up, the topic is quickly changed because why do we want to dwell in this navel-gazing topic?

It's very weird.

That's strange.

No, no, imagine if someone is like bringing up a topic, like, oh, my belly button is out instead of in.

It's like, okay.

So it doesn't have anything to do with anything, but okay.

Yeah, it doesn't.

It doesn't.

It really doesn't.

It's not in the world.

LGBTQ does have something to do.

No, it doesn't.

Unless you make it a problem yourself.

Submen how to speak for you unless you talk.

Huh?

I am talking.

I say that nobody gives a fuck.

No one gives a fuck about trans shit.

No, nobody cares.

Yeah, it wasn't even brought up once at the convention.

In your party, or you mean in general?

Like at the convention, it wasn't brought up one time.

At the party level, I've never heard it.

Yes, but I'm speaking of the people that you want to gain support from, the masses, right?

If someone is really focused on transgenderism one way or the other, we don't want them in our party.

One way or the other.

Yeah.

I conducted like 300-plus interviews of onboarding for members, and it's really a red flag whenever it comes up.

But you don't want trans people to be marginalized in your party or feel uncomfortable.

I mean, nobody's uncomfortable.

Nobody is.

You're just panic mongering about something that doesn't.

Because you barely have any fucking trans people in your party.

Who fucking cares?

Transgenders are.

Fucking I care.

Fucking a lot of people care.

Why do you care?

Transgenders are less than 1% of the population in America.

Yeah, but the people that support them are a large percent of them.

Why does our party need to have a lot of transgenders?

Why is that necessary?

It does.

People that support trans people, you do need those people in your meeting.

What does it mean to support trans people?

What does it even mean?

What does that even mean?

I personally am we technically haven't issued an official position, but I'm going to share my view on it frankly.

And I don't think it's going to be contentious in our party.

We don't want to leave the children alone, period.

We don't believe in transgender.

So otherwise, it's legal to be transgender in the U.S.

And you're allowed to.

And so what's the contention here?

Where is the contention coming from?

You want to have mass support from both you're saying we don't have enough support from people who support transgenders.

What do you mean s that they support what does that mean to support them?

I mean, there are excesses to the LGBTQ.

No, no, I meant to.

It would depend on what we're talking about.

Like, what you would have to go into.

Because, Lune, this is what you're not understanding.

The people I think you have in mind are the people who cancel others for being transphobic for not caring about trans issues.

And that's the issue.

Of course, I don't care if you don't care about them, but it would depend on the language that you use.

All right, you know what?

I'll kind of go on a more, I'll be easier for you.

Just so you don't look totally crazy.

I think we would not tolerate someone who brings like a trans flag.

Right, Kyle?

I wouldn't tolerate that.

Yeah, I wouldn't tolerate that shit.

No, we wouldn't.

Why not?

Because we have the red flag.

It's not that fucking important.

And if that's your focus, then go see what's going on.

Then why would you care if it's not important?

Then why would you care?

Because you are forwarding an individualist fucking liberty over the class struggle, and I just don't give a shit about it.

I don't respect it.

You're flying a flag based on your individualism, and it's not the red flag either, by the way.

So it's like, of course, we don't want that.

Our flags are the red flag.

None of you guys have flown like a transformation.

Also, here's the issue, Lune.

It's a kind flag.

What the issue is, is like.

I'm going to pretend I didn't hear a comparison between the Palestinian flag and the transgender flag.

But anyway, look, the issue is, it's like, do we have trans advocacy in our party?

No, because what trans advocacy means is like, everyone stop and think about my genitals.

And we don't tolerate that.

We don't.

I'm not saying for you to fucking do that.

I'm just saying, but that's all it amounts to in practice.

Don't turn people off from supporting your party.

Then you won't just have fucking socially conservative.

But what you're saying is we need to pay tribute to them.

Like, they're the great con, and we have to give them a lot of people.

That's what it means objectively.

Objectively, that's what it means.

It means a tributary system where we have to pay tribute to them, and we're not going to do that.

You won't turn people off.

It's not that hard, dude.

I mean, dude, the only you want to be a party for Americans, right?

Not just like the only people that are offended, and the people that you're talking about are literally crazy.

They're literally a tiny minority.

They're even more marginal than we are as a party, and they're mentally ill.

And they regularly threaten to kill us.

Yeah, but they might be marginal now.

But if your party grows and support, then you'll probably have this, you know, the same problem, but on a larger scale.

No, we won't because the majority of Americans see those people as batshit insane.

What people?

The people that you're talking about who are turned off by our party because we're not trans inclusive enough or whatever.

Those people are insane.

And you think that's a minority?

Okay.

I don't think I know.

Well, you know what, Lune?

Here's the tragedy.

And I wish I brought this up earlier.

It's not even necessarily that they're a minority.

That is literally the base of fascism now.

Those are the people that support the Azov battalion.

Those are the people that are fanatically supportive and working at Raytheon.

And only 1% of them are identifying as anti-imperialist MLs who support China.

Less than 1%.

How many conservatives identify as anti-imperialists and all these other things?

Quite a few, actually.

The sad thing is quite a few liberals also.

No, no, no, no, Lune, Lune.

When it comes to red versus blue, here's how it works.

Yes, liberals are more sensitive about the humanitarian crisis in Gaza.

I will give you that.

But they frame it in terms of humanitarianism.

Among liberals, supporting Hamas is non-existent.

They don't support Hamas.

Is there a pipeline potentially that could lead people to radicalize?

When it comes to people that are like your typical American leftist, when they end up supporting Hamas and there's that pipeline, they end up like Kala Walsh and they're called red-brown fascists and they're lumped in with the rest of us.

Even if they have socially liberal views, it doesn't matter.

They're still categorized just like how me and Kyle are.

In any case,.

Uh when it comes to the red versus blue bulk, I will tell you this.

B red in terms of like uh conservatives or republican MAGA, let's just say much more skeptical of US military interventions than blue is right now.

They are much more skeptical of US military foreign interventions in general.

Maybe.

No, not maybe.

100% are.

100% much more.

That could change, granted.

That could change.

Let's say Trump.

No, no, you don't need data.

You just need experience in the real world, Loon.

Let's be frank.

Don't be frank.

Give me something.

Give me something.

I don't know what.

Let's pull on the Ukraine war and see what's going on.

Yeah, let's not even.

Let's just say who is the candidate that you think in any capacity will change ship the course of the state.

I'll even be better.

I'll be better on Ukraine.

Kyle, I'll be better.

Loon, how did Donald Trump, who killed Soleimani, become popular among the Shia Muslims in Dearborn, Michigan?

I don't know.

You don't know?

Could it have anything to do with the perception among them that he is more anti-war than Kamala is?

Because that's really what it is.

Do you believe that he's more anti-war than Kamala is?

Oh, me personally, I'm much more skeptical, obviously, because I don't know that for certain.

I know his rhetoric is.

I know that the movement surrounding him is.

It seems that he might want to end the war in Ukraine, right?

That's the main reason.

Reasonably, he's saying that, but like, you know, I don't know about Trump.

I just know the movement and the sentiment.

I mean, it sounds like to me, it sounds like he wants to go to war with like Iran or China more.

Again, it's unpredictable.

It's unpredictable.

But in any case.

Um

Yeah, when it comes to well, all I'm trying to say is that as a mass, in terms of the masses, the people that are really passionate about transgender issues, those people are more likely to support Raytheon, more likely to support imperialism as a masses.

1% of them may be like you, right?

But 99% are Vosh Destiny viewers who, you know, believe in the Ukraine narratives and believe that Taiwan should be independent and all these kind of stuff.

I wouldn't say that most people even watch Destiny or Vosh Destiny.

No, no, no, they don't, but they have this similar ideology of like NATO Nazism, pro-NATO, pro-EU.

So do a lot of Republicans, I would say, but okay.

Yeah, they're called the Lincoln Republicans and they're extremely anti-Trump right now.

I wouldn't say MAGA supporters right now are particularly pro-NATO.

Definitely would not get that impression.

Again, I'm not saying this can't change if Trump wins.

Trump might win Tuesday and become an extreme warmonger, and everyone's gonna rally behind him.

We don't know.

But all I could say is that, you know, the movement's origins were on the basis of an extreme skepticism to, you know.

US uh interventionism abroad in general.

The current trajectory is already war with Iran and China.

And that's because, you know,

All of the last four years, administration, which you know Kamala Harris was a part of.

And

The only individual who's running is beyond that is Donald Trump as a viable candidacy for winning.

And those are the people that you're saying, oh, the social conservatives or whatever, and they're not necessarily anti-war or whatever.

But he's the only one toning down any type of rhetoric in that way and presenting any sort of wildcard in that equation.

Yeah.

I think the issue is it's like, look, neoliberalism is reactionary and it is fascistic.

And one of the roles we have on the US left is really painfully forcing people to painfully swallow the pill that cultural neoliberalism, which is based on individualism, is not actually progressive in the Marxist sense.

It's actually deeply reactionary and deeply repressive.

So which ideology would you say is more individualistic, would you say?

A conservative movement or a liberal movement?

Um depending on what boxes we're putting around those things, if we're just gonna go very vaguely, I'd say the conservatives are much more collectivistic just because they have a sense of like, you know, that the the individuals, like right libertarian people?

Well, again, we're talking about cultural values.

Um we're not talking about political individualism or political cons you know, collectivism.

I mean, I feel like it would define how it would depend on how we define individualism, right?

Yeah, but I think neoliberal individualism is not necessarily based on individual sovereignty, which is where libertarians think they're coming from.

It's based on individual consum consumer discretion.

It's the individualism of desires.

It's the individualism of choices made at the level of consumption.

And that is something that is like reified into an ideology.

I don't want to use the pseudo-intellectual word reified.

That is something that's turned into like an ideology that's the supreme social value.

And I reject that.

I'm not necessarily against individuals choosing what they want to consume.

I reject elevating that as the supreme principle that should govern a society.

What is your opinion of individualism within like a communist country?

Would you say?

There is none.

There's no individualism in a communist country?

In communist countries, individuals obviously exist, but individuality is not elevated into a social principle ever.

It's you're just an individual and no one cares.

It's not something anyone else has to care about.

Hmm.

Okay.

Yeah, I mean it would depend.

All right.

Well, uh we have some other speakers who have requested.

Um you want me to move on, Haas?

Yeah.

All right, all right.

See you, nice chatting.

Yep.

All right.

Mm-hmm.

Alright.

So, uh one of them just ran away as soon as I said that, but maybe they'll come back.

It was looking interesting.

They were laughing a lot.

Is Comrade Confucius requesting, 'cause everyone keeps t saying to bring him on.

No.

He's not requesting, guys.

Can you stop?

Uh prov du.

That the person?

That's one that's one of 'em.

Good.

Yeah.

What's up?

What's up?

Man, I feel like.

What what you said about sectarianism

One, I feel like it's very hypocritical.

Very, very hypocritical because for months, years, there's this propaganda campaign.

You've been joining Ted Cruz, the rest of the political class, and talking shit about the PSL and really the PSL.

And it's interesting because even last year, after all this shit you guys were talking, I saw so many selfies at the rally organized by these same left forces that you guys are constantly during.

Let me go ahead and make an assurance to you, all right?

Um

Division with respect to working with the PSL, even though we don't regard them as a Marxist-Leninist party, is one-sided.

We have no problem collaborating with the PSL.

It's on their end.

They're the ones who have a problem with us.

And even if the leadership of the PSL were wise and said, yeah, these ACP guys, you know, they're well-connected.

They're good guys.

We should collaborate.

The rank and file, who are a bunch of liberals, a lot of them, all it takes is 5% Rad Libs to ruin an organization.

You know that.

So those ones will ruin it and have a big hissy fit and destroy the PSL from within.

That's why the leadership can never associate with us.

But frankly, if we criticize the PSL, it's because there's a perception that they are slandering us internationally and attempting to destroy our reputation.

But if they're not doing that, we know they are though, but if they're willing to stop doing that and if they want to unite with us against imperialism, we are totally fine with that and we have no problem with that.

So it's one-sided.

Real.

I don't think it's one-sided, but I mean, I respect that.

I mean, go tell them.

Go communicate that to them.

We don't even have lines of communication open with them.

So, you know, we really don't have beef.

I mean, frankly, the beef has to do with international, some of the international stuff going on, but we don't have grudges, I should rather say.

We're not, you know, we're not, we don't take it personal.

So if you want to go communicate to them that we can collaborate with them in some respects and in some capacity, go do it.

I mean, frankly, we wish left-wing forces would unite with us against the growing neo-Nazi threat instead of attacking us.

So we're being attacked from both sides, but such is the situation.

But I feel like that's the case throughout the whole, as you would say, Western left.

And I mean, there's different tiers.

I mean, you talked about like there's the Western left that's actually pro-imperialism, anti-China, and pro-everything the State Department says, even though they're, you know, so radical.

But there are ones who I think are more, you know, genuine forces.

And I think that that is an issue.

And a lot of times I think it's miscommunication and misunderstandings.

You know, like you said, you know, we feel like it's one-sided.

If it's not, that would be great news, but you know, we're not going to hold our breath.

Well, but to be completely frank, we know they've made moves against this internationally.

I don't even know why we have to sugarcoat this.

And we haven't retaliated in any way because we don't see it as productive.

And we just kind of see what about you guys talk about the PSO all the time on this site.

What's his name, Eddie?

What does that have to do with what I just said?

And even, hold on, it's because it's because of what they've done to us.

So we're just, if Eddie is saying something on X, that's different, but we're not making moves against them internationally.

That's not what we're doing.

Real.

Maybe that's just a, maybe I don't know.

You know.

Yeah, I mean, we really can't get into the specifics of this, but that's the case.

But to this second point about the liberalism thing, I see where you guys are coming from.

And I don't think at first I kind of bought into the view that you guys were reactionaries.

I don't think that's the case, but I think that there is some differences.

Because to the point that you were making, right?

So you say, you know, for example, the USSR, they were against even like jazz music and the decadence.

But it wasn't because of the liberalism in and of itself.

It was because it was coming from the imperialists as an attack, right?

So there's no way to then go and say, oh, I'm going to go against that and go, I'm a mega communist.

I'm pro-America, right?

In trying to fight this quote-unquote because there's also a fascistic side to the imperialist system that has worked with brutal dictators all over and has had no problem being illiberal, right?

I mean, even if you look at how they use Christianity throughout the third world, throughout Africa, you see Uganda.

I mean, look, liberal is a word that's muddied very much.

I use the word neoliberal a lot because of that.

Because in Stalin's last speech,

Aspects of liberalism, real liberalism historically, you know, such as the right of self-determination, you know, constitutional liberties, civil liberties, things like that, freedom of assembly, whatever.

Stalin said that actually communists need to pick up the banner to defend those things, right?

And so that's not really the problem.

The problem has more to do with.

The USSR in the post-war period didn't necessarily oppose the cultural decadence of the West because it regarded that decadence as liberal.

It actually regarded the decadence as proto-fascistic.

The ML view implicitly, and sometimes I think explicitly, I'd have to search where though, they regarded the descent into hyper-individualistic, you know, ultra-liberal, you know, whatever.

They regarded that as kind of actually the same as fascism.

They categorized it in the same ways.

Fascism in the 30s, culturally, was associated with vanity.

It was associated with like, you know,

the individual attempting to defy the laws of nature and defy the laws of history and whatever.

And, you know, the Soviets perceived in the post war period with the rise of uh you know American hyper liberal

Culture, they saw that as actually just as much fascistic.

So they assu.

So, what you're talking about as illiberalism.

Is not the s I think there's two kinds of illiberalism, right?

There's illiberalism, which is a liberal hypocrisy, right?

It's still liberal, it's coming from liberalism, it's coming from the bourgeoisie, and it's maintaining the aspect uh, but it's a mutation, it's a mutation that is kind of fascistic.

Then there's illiberalism, which is based in collectivism.

And collectivism is not necessarily about fascist tyranny.

Collectivism can often be an organic collectivism.

It could reflect a civilization, a culture with social values or something, like in Palestine or Lebanon or something.

So that would be a form of illiberalism, or Russia today, right?

That would be a form of illiberalism, which is just based in a positive collectivism.

But illiberalism that's purely based in the negation of liberal freedoms, such as fascism, but doesn't have a positive collective aspect, that is a mutation of liberalism itself.

So I think that's the distinction.

But even the, I mean, it's interesting, that's a good point.

But I feel like the imperialists will even use the positive liberalism as a weapon.

And you could see this in multiple aspects of the world.

The positive collectivism, you mean?

Right.

Yes.

Like you see, even with the civil rights movement in the conclusion, Brown v.

Vordavet, they talk about how they're in this position as an ascending empire and how it's a blemish.

And actually, I found out recently Eisenhower released a memo 10 years earlier, like telling them that they would need to use that as a weapon.

Well, I think positive collectivism in this sense is something I'm referring to in terms of cultural values.

So it basically how people associate with each other, how people, you know, what manners people have, what kinds of protocols of honor and respect are in place that govern relationships within society.

Uh, you know, how individuals put the interest of the collective first, such as the family.

You know, um, you can't just do whatever you want, you have to listen to your parents, people from but I feel like, if anything, you know, you said that the conservatives have that value, and I guess I see what you're saying the way that Americans see it, but I would actually say historically, obviously, the anti-imperialists are the ones who have had courage, who have had discipline, who have been able to have a lot of people.

I agree, I agree with that.

It's always been the revolutionaries that have defended people's honor, it's always the imperialists and the right wing that's attacked people's honor historically.

It's just what I've been trying to say here is that neoliberalism has deceived people into thinking, you know, in terms of opposites, honestly, with reality.

And that's kind of the issue with the U.S.

Yo, they're talking about how you're fucking white privilege to not vote for Kamala and not endorse a fucking thing.

It's just like nonsense.

It's a complete inversion of what everything used to mean, you know, and that's the issue.

Word.

I mean, I guess we I agree with you on a lot of this to be honest.

I mean, we got yeah, listen, man.

I know who you are, your comrade Shaq, right?

Listen, yeah, yeah, no, Elon, Elon Ben, my sorry, it's all right.

Listen, you know, in any case.

Communicate to the leadership if you can or whoever you know, just tell 'em, you know, and see what

See what they say, because I'm telling you, I'm communicating to you that it's, you know, on our end, we aren't, we have no interest in going to war with PSL.

We are stuck going to war with neo-Nazis and fascists and neoliberalism.

So we don't have to be the same party as PSL, but we don't have to be at war.

There's a million factions in the Palestinian resistance.

They don't agree with each other on ideology, but they can put aside their differences for a greater cause.

So as many people who understand that as possible, we're willing to work with, frankly.

Alright, man, shout out to you.

Yep.

Alright, see you later, man.

I'm going to bring on one other person.

Or Kyle, is there any other people or no?

Yeah, there's two, actually.

Not the what's going on.

Anyone else?

Yes.

Who is it?

Uh Aurora Hammer and Sickle Vay them Catboy Barrel.

Alright, uh bring that up and we will have that as the last speaker for the night.

Alright, sounds good.

Your uh there you go.

So

Um

The reason I heard about your party was because I live in the rural south in the United States.

And I saw that you guys were helping during Hurricane Helene.

I appreciate that you guys helped the communities and it's so great that you guys did that.

But I just think that you guys should not alienate your workers.

Uh what is your age?

Sorry.

My age?

Yeah.

I don't know what that has to do with anything.

Yeah, I'm just asking though.

I'm thirty years old.

All right.

Um, so who are we alienating?

I feel like your rhetoric could alienate the LGBT people who are also anti-imperialists and anti-capitalists as well.

Well, I think if they prioritize those things then they would probably put their feelings aside about the sexuality and focus on what matters.

Oh, yeah.

I think we could.

I think we could, but can you not alienate them though?

I mean, we care about results and we care about, you know, what people do.

We don't really care about we what they do in in service of the party's goals.

We don't really care about people's private

stuff well see um what do you mean by private parts

No, I mean it literally we don't we don't I don't don't care about saying let's look at our private parts.

I think that's a gross miscarriage.

Well, I don't know what they are saying.

I mean if they're trying to say we need to correct you don't know at all well I I don't know if they correct you don't know at all right for example you go by they them so if you were at our convention and someone like referred to you as a he or whatever and like you know you got upset about that I think that would not be conducive to an environment of comradeship or solidarity.

I think that would be very alienate.

I think that would be extremely alienate.

I think that would be very alienating um behavior on your part and y you know, that's kind of where the differences come from, I think.

I agree that that could alienate them.

Right, so like what what else w we don't wanna have a culture we have to like artificially use pronouns out of nowhere.

I mean you know, we're not gonna go out of our way to try and abuse people who are clearly trying to present in a certain way.

I'm not gonna personally like be like yo to their face, like yo, you're a man I mean like 'cause that would be abusive, but

I don't know what else you want from us, frankly.

There's nothing I really want.

I just would like it if you guys would just like stop the rhetoric that you guys do on Twitter.

Like I think the the the issue is this.

This is why it's so unfair.

Because like

These people, and when I say these people, I'm talking about liberal leftists who are overwhelmingly from these communities.

They go after us so viciously and so personally, and they like, they use fucking anything at their disposal when it comes to that.

They fucking go at us with whatever, right?

And we're not allowed to like talk about the elephant in the room to humble them.

No.

If they don't want us using that.

Forget me, I'm chairman of the party, so I'm above the pettiness now.

But if you don't want our soldiers using that rhetoric.

Stop going after them.

Stop going after our party.

You know, be honorable and honest and decent.

Otherwise, if you don't want the ugliness, don't bring it on yourselves, you know?

Frankly, I think

Okay.

Um how do we um not we but how do you do about your party members who are also doing the rhetoric like that, like doing anti-LGBTI never seen it offensively about it?

No, because I've only ever seen it uh be done defensively.

I've never seen it be done offensively, just out of nowhere for no reason.

Okay.

Well, just want to say I appreciate your party and I think that your party is.

Yeah, I'm just telling you, man, we're at war and, you know, when war is ugly, you use by any and all means to demoralize and attack the enemy.

And if Oh, yeah, yeah.

Our soldiers our soldiers gotta defend themselves and uh they have to defend the party too, you know.

And um we don't I don't see my soldiers behave dishonorably.

If I do, I correct them and I check 'em.

But I don't often see them behave that way.

Okay.

Um

Anyways, I just want to say um I have no no beef of your party.

I think your party could be good

I think under this capitalist system that we live under,

We're all competing against each other.

And I don't want to say that I know everything about Marxism because.

Alright, uh, that was going on for quite a while, Kyle.

Yeah, I think that's gonna conclude it.

Alright.

In any case, we're done, and that's that.

Sounds good.

Ps go.

Alright.

Uh alright, guys.

I liked today's stream because I made a lot of money.

Also, um

Also it was good content.

It was good content.

Um

So, uh, you know, a daylight savings.

It's fucking 2 a.m.

right now, technically.

Yeah.

Reflections on the discussions.

Um, this is getting quite exhausting, actually.

Uh the not the reflections, but the discussions.

Quite exhausting.

Um

You know who I think is correct?

I think Ray Pete is correct about the seed oils thing.

I think they're onto something with the seed oils.

Because I was thinking, why do I feel so bloated?

And like, why do I feel like I'm not eating, but I'm still not losing weight?

And then I kind of tried to experiment yesterday with the seed oil thing and the bioenergetics, just like half sugar in between and keep it along.

And I'm like, I feel like it's working.

I feel like it's like real.

The whole Poofah thing.

Just don't have Poofa and you could be fine.

And um

Whofahs.

And uh

It's not even about the food, it's about the like stuff.

It's about the poofers.

You can have tasty food but just don't have the poofas.

Um p you can have sugar.

Um

RIP Uber.

Guys, like I said.

Uber eats whatever.

Uh I get fucking me shitty meal prep.

I fucking eat like a prisoner, all right?

Uh but there's nothing tasty and for in store for me tonight.

What do I have?

I have uh all right, I have juice boxes.

I do have 'em from Costco.

And that's something I

I'm not proud of.

But they're thirty five calories and they

Um

They just when I'm thirsty, you know, just

You know, it's just like so what?

So what?

Fucking sue me.

Have we talked about this ethnocasserism thing in Peru?

I don't know if I'm allowed to talk about it.

I have very strong feelings about it.

Umph, but that goddamn flag.

Just please change that flag.

That flag is really bad optics.

If they change that flag so much, it'd make my job a lot easier.

But SSNP and the Peruvian guys, you guys get your shit together.

All right, what are you doing with the flags?

But beyond the flags uncanniness.

Uh I don't know enough about them, I'll say that.

I'll just go with the easy route and say I don't know enough.

But what I've read, all I'm gonna say is that what I read I really like.

I really like the idea of invading and annexing Chile and other parts.

I really like these ideas.

I told you the most interest didn't I tell you the most interesting politics is going to come out of Peru?

Once, if you remember how I said the most interesting politics in South America is going to come from Peru.

And I told you.

Did I not tell you?

Did I not tell you?

You remember, I did tell you this many times over the years.

Peruvians are the only they are the only undomesticated people

They are so based, they are so um cool and they are very revolutionary.

Peruvians give no fucks and they have

They have balls, all right?

Um

Peru is a very cool country.

And I like you know, 'cause it's so funny because Chile, Chile, Chile, they're like, Oh Allende and then Allende got cucked and then fucking the fascist Pinochet and then neoliberalism won and now you have fucking Boric.

So it's this fake kind of existential dilemma, these Chileans.

Oh well

Just and then fucking out of nowhere, here comes Peru to annex it.

And just the Incan Empire just comes and fucking takes it.

Fuck Pinochet, fuck Boric, fuck everyone, fuck you, Incan Empire.

I love that.

I love that idea so much.

It's so poetically beautiful.

It's like they had this fake bullshit politics in Chile and then here comes the Incan Empire.

See, the dichotomy used to be Oh, Pinochet is the strong man dictator versus the peaceful leftists And no, this is the fucking Incan empire coming to eat cannibal eat Pinochet, dig up his grave and eat him.

Like, that's the strong men, all right?

Anyway.

Um

Unfortunately the Incans didn't do human sacrifice, but I wish they did because Borick is a great candidate for Incan human sacrifice.

Humans sacrifice Borick.

It's like Star Wars.

And the, it's like, I'm gonna say he's the cringiest shit ever.

It's like, uh, it's like, uh, Borick is like the Jedi.

Dunes, what's up?

It's like, uh, Pinochet was like, um.

It's like Pinochet is uh

You know, like the Jedi and Boric is like another Jedi, and then the Incan Empire is the freaking Sith coming back out of nowhere and taking everyone over.

Very cool.

Dunes, appreciate it, bro.

Um

I like annexations today.

I like this idea of just.

Yeah, I'm against social democracy.

I'm against uh fascists, social fascists.

I support uh the revival of uh the Incan Empire.

Just fucking do it.

What if America's gonna condemn it?

Who gives a shit?

Human rights Shut the fuck up, bitch.

Slam dunk them.

Literally just fucking do it.

Launch the missiles.

The whole world map needs to be changed.

Launch the missiles.

Mm-hmm.

Peru, if they do this, they should take over all of it.

Take over everything.

Take over Brazil.

Fuck it.

Why not?

Why not?

Fucking Chile.

Stupid you know what?

Am I gonna insult I'm not gonna do it I'm a chairman of the party, I can't do that.

Anyway, uh, neoliberalism must fall, not with ballots, but with Peruvian guns.

Human sacrifice Lula next.

Yes.

Yes.

Mm.

It's got there's something so interesting about this.

It's like uh the whole there's this whole hegemony of neoliberalism and

Fascism, fascist dictatorships, and it's all this carefully created architect.

You just fucking break it with your fist.

Just break it.

Fucking conqueror.

Reconquer people reconquering their land from scratch.

Mm-hmm.

Don't betray Venezuela yeah, Lula betrayed Venezuela, straight up.

The t see tankies is such a great thing, it's like when the Soviets went into Hungary with tanks.

That's what started it all.

That's what set the precedent.

Authority, realism, power.

You know.

T Eninman Square.

It's about um

Politics, that's what it is, it's what politics is, it's about crushing the Libtards.

Can you believe there were fucking retarded intellectuals in like nineteen fifty six?

When they heard that the Soviets went into Hungary with tanks, they were like, Oh.

I am so conflicted about this.

This betrays the human- What a bunch of fucking idiots and suckers.

Retards.

What a bunch of pussies.

These guys were so stupid.

I hope the I hope the Soviet security services used the shit out of them and manipulated them and fucking stole all the money from them, robbed them.

Idiot.

There are literally should have been useful idiots.

Stupid.

Oh, look like humanitarian.

Shut up, bitch.

By standing on business.

It's about standing on business.

What are you gonna do?

What are you gonna do?

Listen, politics is not personal.

It's blind, it's cruel, it's ruthless.

That's what politics is.

Politics is blind and ruthless.

It's uh

And it's uh it needs to be respected as a force of nature instead of uh the result of individual intentions and will.

It needs to be understood as uh you know, can I tell you guys a story, very personal?

You're not gonna believe it, but uh I'll tell you a story of when I was young and then I'll end the stream.

When I was a freshman in high school

I believed in, you know, like, uh oh libertarian socialism.

Like Noam Chomsky and, you know, anarchism.

I didn't believe in it.

But, you know, like, you know, we're against the t authoritarianism.

Everything should be f you know, collective.

Everything should be democratic, direct democracy, you know, voluntary, direct democracy.

Everything will be voted on.

All right.

So I had a group of friends and, you know, we were doing like a school project, you know.

And, you know, we were all at my house and we had to get together and fucking finish the project.

We had to like

Get it done, it's due.

You know, we've the everyone had to be disciplined, you know.

We have to know what roles we're in, whatever.

And I, that was my experiment for direct democracy.

I was like, oh, you know, I was like 13 or something at the time.

I was like, you know, let's all sit in a circle and like vote on it.

Everyone was just like horsing around and like not taking it seriously, telling jokes, and it was just chaotic.

They were like animals.

So finally, I stood up and I was like, enough.

I grabbed a stick and I just started beating everyone.

Um

And then I had a friend, my biggest, the friend who was like the biggest.

He became my henchman.

I'm like, grab that guy, grab that guy, grab that guy.

And we all, it was like a, it was literally like a, it was like Hungary, 1956.

And I was like, all right, listen up.

I mean, it wasn't serious.

It was like a joke, obviously.

But, like, that actually, like, told, I don't know.

I feel like it was deeper in the sense of like you could draw a lesson from it.

Like, that whole situation, it wasn't personal.

People are just like, it's chaos.

It's chaos.

To make order out of chaos, you gotta fucking use force.

It's not personal.

You're just responding to a situation.

I mean, when I say like I grabbed a stick and beat everyone, it's like not in a serious way, like in a joking way, but it still had the same effect.

You know what I'm saying?

Exercising authority, yeah.

But then I actually felt guilty about it.

Can you believe that?

Because I was like, oh my God, this proves it.

This proves direct democracy doesn't work.

There needs to be discipline.

And control.

Anyway.

This is my this is the most retarded thing I've ever said on stream.

Anyway, um

But I'm here to share my uh uh unfiltered thoughts.

Aren't I a psychopath for comparing that as a fourteen year old kid or thirteen year old kid?

Aren't I a psychopath for like experiencing that and being like, Oh, this is just like what happened in the Russian Revolution?

Like, yeah, they started out like trying to but then they had to like like I thought that was actually it.

Aren't I retarded for that?

Anyway.

Um

It's kind of funny.

Well, no, you know, it's interesting because, like, when you're a teenager and you are interested in Marxism, you're really trying to find so many different ways to make it relatable.

Like, you're trying to, like, what is Kami?

What is that?

What is this?

What does it mean?

How could I relate to it?

In what way?

You know

And it's like

It's very interesting.

Very interesting.

Very interesting.

Anyway guys.

Anyway guys

Anyway guys

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