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What's going on, brother?

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stream fucks up again

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alright well this is awkward

this is awkward

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let me change the camera

this camera's in the infrared control room.

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Nick Land stuff goes on.

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There we are.

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and Florida, and the ten,

and the rules on,

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and a, anyway,

guys,

I'm the chairman

of a serious party.

Let me act my part.

Anyway.

I'm going to be doing

debates tonight. I'm going to be doing debates tonight.

I'm going to be doing a Twitter space.

Probably, you know, well into the stream.

But I'm going to start out not doing that and talking about well.

Ones if you're in ACP. Ones if you're in ACP

ones if you're in the party

because I want to know if this is

if I should say this here now

if enough of you are going to be able to

all right a lot of you are in the party

all right

all right uh now All right, a lot of you are in the party. All right.

All right.

Now, threes, if you are both in the party, and, you know, basically you can hold your own, more or less.

Everyone's going to say three.

Of course, no one's going to be humble.

All right.

Anyway, look, we have a community service event this Saturday in Illinois, and the event is going to be in Carbondale, Illinois, where some social fascist provocators have attempted to intimidate one of our members.

There's more to that story, but that's more of a thing that your chapter executives should tell you.

And we have a community service event, which we're going to go and do there, peacefully, of course,

because they're basically trying to say that we're not allowed in Carbondale.

That's what the social fascists have said.

They said ACP is not allowed in Carbondale, that's their town, and we're not allowed there in Carbondale, Illinois.

So we're going to show

them whose town it is,

actually, and we're

going to be heading there.

Now, there's already a lot

of us going.

It's going to be next Saturday.

So if you're in the Midwest

and you're within

seven-hour driving distance,

I ask that you show up next Saturday if you can.

Please contact your chapter executives for more information and contact Kyle for more information.

But the social fascists there, it's the contact Kyle for more information.

But the social fascists there, there's a DSA chapter that's attempting to threaten us.

And then, of course, there is the ogre monster that attempted to intimidate one of our comrades down

there one of our comrades

you know

who's outnumbered

I want to know who signed

stop fucking donating to that shit.

That shit is straight-hast.

You know what?

I don't give a fuck. Your name is stupid.

It's disrespectful.

Do not fucking donate to that text.

I removed it.

How are you still even know what that link is?

You're literally pissing away that $10 and

throwing it in a fucking well.

Because I cannot get that money out

because donation alerts is

fucking sanctioned.

Because of that bitch Hillary

Clinton who fucking hates Russia.

So they sanction everything that's Russian.

And donation alerts is a Russian payment processor, and I can't fucking transfer the money to my bank.

I have to literally tag in Jackson to help me deal with this issue.

Do not...

It's in my telegram message.

What are you talking about?

Do not donate

to text to speech, period.

I'm the only streamer that gets pissed off of people donating.

Because you're not donating to me, you're donating to Hillary Clinton. Remember that.

Hillary Clinton is taking all that shit.

It's fucking Hillary, crooked Hillary. All right. Wait, well, what year is it?

Sorry. It's right below the stream if you scroll down okay well

stupid people need to learn how to listen to my words and that guy should know. Okay?

That money is frozen up.

Jennifer, that's how you know,

Haas isn't a grifter.

No, no, no, no, no, no.

I'm not telling you not to donate to me.

I'm telling you to subscribe.

Let it be known. Let it be known let it be known

I'm fully on the grift right now

subscribe

gift subs

we love that Mr. Crabbs

communism fully Mr. Crabbs

communism we're on that Mr. Crabbs

grind set you You understand?

We're crabbing it up in here

like a salty, crabby,

paddy emphasis on the saltiness.

Anyway,

Australia's Stanley.

That's a boy. That a boy.

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There we go.

The grift is in motion.

Oh, this grift is working.

The breezy.

We're grifting it up.

We're grifting it up with the crabby-patti secret formula, which is plankton.

Anyway, someone told me that.

I don't know if it's true

anyway

this is all money

that's not going to Hillary Clinton

so thank God for that

anyway guys

what was I saying

I just got so distracted by money I was mesmerized anyway what was I saying?

I just got so distracted by money.

I was mesmerized.

Anyway, yeah, next Saturday we're going to be going to... We're going to be going to Illinois, Carbondale, Illinois, and we're going to be doing a community service event there, and we would appreciate people who come.

And we have no intention to provoke any violence. We have no intention to engage in any sleep or sell.

What's going on? But one of our, we're there to show solidarity with one of our comrades who was

intimidated by a fucking ogre and a bunch of social fascist scum.

Anyway, so I have made that announcement now.

Now you know, if you're within seven-hour driving distance, I highly encourage you to come.

Harold!

What's up?

What's up, Harold?

And by the way, there's other stuff. So the election is, uh, unfortunately, fucking election. Can the election wait for me to write more

anyway

is it for members only

uh

members

yeah

outside members and

uh

you know

friend fellow travelers,

I guess.

Uh,

anyway,

look,

guys,

uh,

the election is on Tuesday.

I don't know what the fuck is going to happen.

We're going to be covering the election,

obviously,

live. But, um, we're going to be covering the election obviously live but um i don't know what's going to happen

sleep or sell with all due respect sleepers are where are you located first of all um

look guys

I'm hearing a lot

about a Kamala

victory

Nashville

it might be too long

of a drive

I'm hearing a lot

about a Kamala victory

uh logos

confident trouble

yeah well I see where he's coming from.

Frankly.

Stalin's Pitbull.

Logos confident.

I share Logos suspicions, frankly.

His thoughts are the same as mine on this matter

and on many other matters

frankly but

I think there's a strong chance

Kamala is going to win

but that it's also rigged

that they're going to rig it.

They're just going to rig the election.

So if they rig the election, I imagine there's going to be instability that follows that.

What volume that instability is going to take and how long it is going to last is something that we are going to as a party are going to wait and see about.

We have no intention on jumping in on the action because that's a fed trap. But we are definitely going to observe what happens.

There will be instability of Kamala wins.

I'm almost certain of it.

I think we're all expecting that.

And in the event, I want to let everyone know a plan.

And this is not a particularly, it doesn't have to be a secret plan.

Sure, everyone can know about it.

Comrades in the ACP.

In the event that things really pop off, and I mean really, really pop off, of course, the wait orders.

But we are all going to meet in Chicago.

We're all going to meet in Chicago. We're all going to meet in Chicago.

And that will be our national convoy.

Wherever we go from Chicago, we're going to be starting in Chicago.

So that's the plan.

The plan is if shit really, really, really, really, really pops off.

We're going to be meeting in Chicago.

Of course, this may not be the day or the week of the election itself.

It could be weeks after.

But that's the plan. it's not because the majority are in illinois it's because it's a central location and also if you know

well we have i'm not going to tell you our plans about where we're going to go after that but

trust me when i say that's the plan.

And contact Kyle.

Yankee, I will be in touch with you on Telegram.

All right, brother?

So let's be in touch about

you know the party stuff

don't worry about it anyway

I'm from New Delhi and I join the ACP

that is verifiably not true

but thanks for

the fun

the hilarious idea

anyway

so

now I'm saying

I'm telling you this because we plan on going to

Carbondale next Saturday

but we don't know what we don't know to what extent, you know, things are going to be even more severely disrupted before then, right? So that's the plan. And guys, I wish we had more time to develop our party before things get real

fate works in mysterious ways and here we are and uh i'm confident we'll make it through whatever is to come. In the most ideal scenario, nothing will happen. And we will have more time. The inevitable will come eventually, but we'll have more time.

And that would be the most ideal scenario.

But in the event that it's not that ideal, well, we're going to learn how the steel is tempered, I guess.

Anyway... was tempered, I guess. Anyway,

and the fact that so many of you

are waiting and eager for that,

and the fact that those feelings

are reflected in a huge portion of the American population tells you all you need to know about whether or not there's going to be a nothing burger or how likely that is.

Make of it what you will.

Make of it what you will. Make of it what you will.

But instability is coming one way or another, whether it's through a world war or through election instability.

And our goal as a party is to weather the storm and survive it and adapt to these conditions the best of our ability so uh with that out of the way

i'm just trying to let you guys know there's a good chance shit's going to get a little bit real

the fact that i'm telling you this so brazenly and openly just shows how confident I am that, you know, this is going to be interesting times ahead.

I'm not saying I know for certain that things are going to happen this week or two days. I'm just telling, we all have that feeling in our stomach.

And, you know, the end is nigh. So to speak, the end is nigh. It's not just about the election. It's about international events.

The escalation in the Middle East.

I hear that Iran tends to strike pretty severely this time around.

The end is nigh. all right? It is coming. I may not survive it. You may not survive it.

In the event that we do, we have to keep the flame going. We've got to keep it moving.

That's all it's about. Keep it moving. Keep it moving.

Deliver the message.

The end is nigh.

The digital cult on kick.com

preaching that the end is nigh.

Well, the end is not really nigh it's just

what I would say shit's about

to get real it's about to pop off

I don't know what to tell you

$15 hours

nothing happens well what's your time scale

nothing happens in the next two years?

Because I'll bet you a million dollars.

That's something will happen in the next two years.

Next week or this week, we don't know.

We don't know. We don't know.

But I will tell you guys something.

I don't want to, you know what?

I don't want to do this because it's going to be controversial.

But let's just say some of the viral stories about gangs roaming around is fake news,

but some of it is also not fake news.

I mean, I'm going to be real.

Like, the stuff about

Venezuelan gangs

it's not entirely wrong

tell me I'm wrong

because I saw it first hand

in fucking Michigan

all right

shit was popping off

and I'm going to tell you what happened in Michigan with Michigan. All right? Shit was popping off,

and I'm going to tell you what happened,

in Michigan,

with respect to that.

The newly,

the newly arrived

Venezuelan gangs

are up to crazy shit.

I don't know what the fuck's going on.

But like, that shit is real, or to some extent it is.

It's not even, like, completely fake.

Some of it's real.

I don't know, uh, I don't know, like, what, to what extent or how much of it's sensationalized, but it's not entirely fake.

It's, Venezuelan gang sounds based, but remember, these are anti-Madurouro anti-government people

that, you know, the U.S. brought in

as, like, political refugees or some shit. they're they're not they're they're not they're not quite based guys they're definitely not quite based

definitely not quite based um in any case gangs are forming all around it's not just them the militia movements are also preparing for shit to pop off we We all know this.

We all know this as well.

It's not just immigrants, it's everyone.

Hmm. Yeah. the elections do i think camelo will win yes i think it's a strong possibility and i think it's a strong

possibility that she will win and that it's rigged and you know what

the best part about it is even if it's not rigged even in the event that it's not rigged guess what

a half of the country is going to say it's rigged anyway

so it doesn't actually matter if it's rigged or not

half of the country will say it's rigged anyway

frankly I think it is it will be rigged

by the way if she wins

I find it very hard to believe she has the popular majority.

I know people are talking about young women who just love abortions so much,

but I don't think they're enough.

Compared to all the fucking people that care about the economy, I don't think they're enough.

I think the privileged college girls that just care about abortions are not...

Those are the bourgeois. Those are the bourgeoisie.

The majority of people care about the economy. They don't give a shit about that, you know?

So I think we're being lied to.

I've seen so many TikToks of fat people saying,

forgive me for emphasizing fat.

I just, it's just the truth.

They're like, everyone's a Kamala supporter, but they're just like too

scared of their neighbors. Amila.

Amila!

With the 20!

Amila!

With the 20!

We're crabbing it up! We're crabbing it up

We're crabbing it up the crusty crab

By the way, I tried two weeks ago

I tried Wendy's his

Cravy Patty and it tasted like shit

It just tastes like a Dave's double with And you couldn't even taste the sauce It tastes like shit. It just tastes like a Dave's double with, and you couldn't even taste the sauce. It tastes like nonsense. Not even good. But we're crabbing it up in here thanks to Emila. Amila, what's going on? Keep the grft going, guys.

I'm a grifter, remember?

We're here to Grift.

We're here to Grift.

It's not like I'm spending all this money on ammunition.

Anyway. Anyway. Anyway Anyway

Let's keep drifting it up guys

Give me that yacht

Give me that yacht guys

Give me that mega mansion

Soon I'll be sleeping in my mega mansion.

In my yacht at the same time.

It's going to be a mansion that's simultaneously a yacht.

Simultaneously a yacht.

And that's what all this is for. just me to pack up all the money and run from all of you and it was all a grift it was all con so keep funneling it guys anyway um

it was all just a grift.

Because I'm such a grifter.

Fucking grifter spending all the fucking money on...

Sorry, I'm literally a sucker.

Like, a fucking idiot.

If you were a cynical person, you would think of me as an idiot, frankly.

Spending all the money that I make on you.

I spend it all on you, right?

And I'm a broke fuck who literally spends everything,

nothing for themselves except food.

Anyway, guys, by the way, the food thing, I'm becoming more efficient with that.

Nowadays I am, because I have to, especially.

All right, look, what was I going to say?

Where I was interrupted.

You know, as a matter of fact, as a party, should we become such a cult that we learn how to make our own food that's party wide standardized food like you know i tried food in this was either this was in donbass or somewhere else but it was

definitely in russia and it was uh cracked wheat with minced beef in it and it was cracked wheat

with minced beef in it

and they said

this is what the army

eats

and I said

I could eat this

every day

I don't need anything

else

this is perfect

bulgar

bulgar

with minced meat Ah perfect

I didn't need anything

I don't need anything more than that

You guys think I like eating lavishly

I don't you know what I fucking get from

The delivery meal stuff

I get stupid

What are they called? They're like meal prep. I get meal prep. I get meal prep and it's rice and it's chicken and it's, I get two boxes of those a day. And then, and then on a special occasion

I'll get some shit

garbage food

for a little bit of happiness

in my life

and that's it

but

you know I don't have time to cook food. That's the issue.

Bulgar is very good. I like that a lot. I like the military food. I don't season the food. No, I don't. I don't even like fucking eating.

To be honest, the most luxurious,

not luxurious,

the tastiest thing I eat

in a given day is my protein.

My ready to drink,

by the way,

protein shake,

which is from GNC,

the ready to drink.

That is my tasty,

or that or an energy drink. If I have an energy drink with no sugar,

it's so tasty. It's flavored.

It's a flavored like juice. It's like soda pretty much. It tastes like better than

Coca-Cola. But I have it for the gym.

That's my treat.

Darg is going to shoot me in the head with a Ray Pete gun right now

because it's sugar-free, but, you know.

What's my stance on maronite nationalists well that's another thing

uh in Lebanon right now

there's a strong chance that the marina the right wing

maronite nationalists

are, they're being trained

by the Emirates and by

the Gulf states right now.

And there's speculation

that as Hasbullah is

fighting the Zionist entity on one front

that the, you know, the Maronite philange fascists are going to strike Hasbullah now because they think the leadership is gone and this is when they're going to be weak.

And that is the situation in lebanon right now and uh you know frankly let me be honest about

something this is a fifth column can you you imagine this, guys, if this was

World War II and you're fighting Hitler or something?

And you have a fucking fifth column

inside your country that doesn't even...

I mean, the Israelis, quote unquote,

they're destroying Lebanon right now.

They're destroying Lebanon

and there's a fucking traitorous fifth column in the country that is cheerleading the enemy.

Right?

So, but all of this depends on Iran.

Hezbollah can't do everything by themselves.

They can't.

Iran, and I'm hearing word that Iran is going to do something very big, very soon, and I hope.

I hope.

But everything depends on Iran.

I'm Maronite. But everything depends on Iran.

I'm Maronite and I don't... No, no, I'm not talking about Maronites in general.

I'm talking about...

I said, that's why I said nationalists.

I don't know what else to call them.

The Khatib or the, you know, Zhaja, whatever the fuck. The Kete'eib or the, you know,

Zhajah, whatever the fuck.

The, the, um, the fascists, that's what they are. They're fascists.

You know? They're just fascists. I don't know what else to call them, though.

They're just French colonial puppets.

They're fascists.

But no, no, I'm not talking about Maronites in general.

And as a matter of fact, there's Maronites allied with the Hezib, as a matter of fact.

But the country is under attack.

The people are under attack.

I mean, you can't side with the enemy.

So, yeah, I mean, this is the situation. And frankly, and you know how all you need to prove that it's not about religion or any of that shit?

Because the fascist that I'm talking about, they're being trained by the Gulf states.

The same Gulf states that for decades and decades

we're funding Salafism.

They're now funding, it's all about

you know, money. It has nothing to do with religion,

you know?

The thing about the Iranian women who's naked

I saw that

and my frank thoughts about that are

very little very little thoughts i have no no big thoughts about

it i think the tweets were botted and if they weren't boughted it kind of puts our the infrared ha's

misogyny arc

into perspective a little if it's not bodded.

If Western women actually do support that shit,

maybe that retroactively justifies

a lot of the edginess, you know,

from me and Jackson over the years. So I hope it's boughted,

because I don't want to, you know, I don't want to believe that young women in America are that

stupid. Um, and in the west

that you know there's just support as a rebellion

oh she's naked

who gives a shit

okay I'll go outside naked

ain't that something though

like if I went outside with my dick out,

I'd probably give, you know, public indecency.

I'd fucking get arrested.

Do I become a brave war, you know?

It's fucking stupid.

That's all you need to say to nuke the whole discourse by the way i go outside naked and it's public

indecency so she and iran goes outside naked and she's a brave get the hell out of here it's nonsense

if you did what she did in america you'd probably get arrested too listen out of here. It's nonsense.

If you did what she did in America, you'd probably get arrested too.

Listen, you know what's stupid is

that every culture

has a different standard of what is

indecent and what is decent.

For example, there's tribes

in the Amazon

and also, you know,

I don't know what I'd call them, Hunter, Gather

tribes, I don't know what the politically correct term is,

but there's tribes where, you know,

women walk around, you know,

with their breasts out, and

men might walk around with their dicks hanging out.

And they consider that normal.

And for them, that's not indecent because, you know, it's not necessarily...

I have a transition topic, actually, about this very thing.

Very good transition.

I didn't even plan for this.

And it's not, it's nothing.

It's not considered, like, erotic in any way.

Particularly erotic.

Now, let, speaking of, uh, speaking of, um, erotic. Now, let's, speaking of, speaking of

erotic

only fans, influencers, let's talk

about orthodox canonist.

Orthodox canonist,

who is, in all likelihood, CIA, Mossade, State Department, directly or indirectly, I'm not sure.

But that guy's whole profile is dedicated to trying to incite ethnic and religious tensions inside the Russian Federation.

I'm not going to say anything further, but what I will say is that

I can't say anything more. Frankly, I can't. But O-Canonist, probably a threat to Russia's national security and probably a fifth column, probably some kind of, if he lives in any capacity in Russia. I'm pretty sure he's a fucking Australian though. But he is an enemy of the Russian Federation who's spreading ethno-religious sectarianism and trying to inflame

tensions while Russia's at war right now by the way and it needs to be united at least for now,

you know. Why do you assume he's a Fed? I don't he may not directly be a Fed, but I think there's a connection at the very least.

In any case, I wanted to make an observation about something.

He made a really disgusting tweet, which said the American Communist Party is coming together

to combat anti-Semitism in the United States.

Their main enemy are conservative Christians.

And they shared a video of us in all

the comments and all the quotes. These are people shocked. They saw our convention. It was a

video of our convention. It got 300,000 impressions,

thousands of likes, and a bunch of people making violent threats against our party

from that post alone and definitely boosted by feds by the way of course feds are sitting

on their fucking ass on their computers and laptops laughing.

This is the fucking attention they're directing at us, by the way.

Fucking stupid, retarded pieces of shit buying into this stuff.

Anyway, our party came together to combat anti-Semitism.

Really?

Really?

What's your source?

Because he literally quoted to fight anti-Semitism in the United States.

First of all, I don't think the United States has an anti-Semitism problem.

I think the United States has a Zionism problem. I think the people who have an anti-Semitism problem are brain-rodded fucking idiots on the internet

who are unknowingly being corralled and being herded into some fucking stupid Mossad fed bullshit to discredit themselves in the eyes of the actual public who wants nothing to do with that shit.

Trust me, I don't think Jews in America, who are some of the most wealthy and, you know, upper-class people as a demographic, majority speaking, are in any kind of danger or need to be rescued from anti-Semitism.

I think our country actually needs to be rescued from Zionism, frankly speaking. That's the truth. We are against the JQ nonsense. A, there's a multitude of reasons. A, it's fed bullshit.

Okay, it's against the revolutionary cause.

It stymies and hurts the effort to actually build a revolutionary movement in this country.

It plays into the hands of

the ruling class by sowing

the seeds of an overall sectarian

and racial division. First

of all, all, it is, on a factual

basis, it's wrong. It promotes stupidity

or promotes slop. It promotes anti-communism based on

misinformation, slander and defamation against us as communists. Third, you understand? Let's keep going. Finally, third, yes, maybe 0.01% of our ranks in our party. Yeah, of course there's Jewish people. Very, very small. I mean, proportional, probably proportionate to the population. And there are comrades, and we're not going to, just like we have Muslims and Christians, majority of our party is Christian, by the way. Not a single ethno-religious group that joins our party... Sorry, let me

rephrase that. Not a single individual from a ethno-religious group who joins our party is going to have their lineage

dishonored. I don't care what their

religious or ethnic background is.

We're not promoting racial

and religious sectarianism, period.

Doesn't mean we think Jews are victims in America

who need to be protected. We don't fucking think that. But it does mean we think Jews are victims in America who need to be protected. We don't fucking think that.

But it does mean we're not going to have any tolerance for any racial or religious sectarianism, period.

And that's it. That's the end of it. It's that simple.

The idea that we came together to fight anti-Semitism is a fucking lie. That's not true at all.

We came together to fight Zionism, if anything.

Fucking idiots.

If anything, I'm saying.

If it has to fixate on the Israel-Palestine conflict,

then we came together to fight

Zionism.

You know, regarding Jews, um you know regarding jews there's many righteous jews and many wicked ones just like any other group

he you know why uh anything else and

you know

period

you people

j queuing and stuff

it's just a distraction

frankly

um it's stupid

there's all sorts of I always say this distraction, frankly. It's stupid.

There's all sorts of, I always say this.

I don't want to repeat myself.

I'm not going to repeat myself.

I'm not going to repeat myself.

I've, I've, I've treaded these waters millions and millions and millions of times. Millions and millions and millions of times.

Millions and millions of times.

I've treaded it

so many times.

I've gone over

this so many

fucking times.

It's not even

funny.

I'm not going to

keep repeating myself.

But

99% of the

time in America right now, when the anti-Semitism label is being used, it's being used by Zionist to silence criticism of the Zionist entity. And that's just the truth. Now, regarding the rise of Hitler worship and O-Canonist retard slop on social media, that is just a form of brain cancer and brain rot.

But until it actually leads to cases of actual, like like violence or pogroms or something against the Jews,

no, we don't consider the primary negative effect of that to be harm done against the Jewish community.

I don't see that harm being done.

The harm is being done to yourself. The harm is being done to us as communists, actually. Because think about it. It's not promoting harm toward the Jewish community. It's promoting harm against us, primarily non-Jewish, by the way, communists, because it's the Judeo-Bolshevism myth. They're trying to attach, see, I made one tweet, said the Bolsheviks were good and did you

see how these vermin and scum

came after me?

I want to be clear about something

with respect to all of these threats and all

this stuff going on.

Our party

is not going to be like the old Western Communist parties.

We are not fucking Gandhi communists.

Hear me loud and clear.

We are not Social Democrats or Gandhi communists.

We're going to defend our party.

We're not only going to defend our honor.

We're going to defend our security. Any scum who makes threats to us, you're on our fucking list, period. We're not going to be like the fucking old CPUSA. Frankly, frankly. We're not going to let people

roll over us and disrespect us

and try to punk us out it's not going to

fucking happen over my dead fucking body

literally by the way

nobody's going to make violent threats toward our party

nobody's going to see to those threats

we have a constitutionally protected right to self-defense

let me put that out there

this is the first time a communist party has been led by a haszbollah Muslim. What is a Hezbollah Muslim? A Hezbollah Muslim means a tribal

mentality, son of first generation tribal immigrants who lived by a different code of honor and a different way of life

and and i'm the i'm the son of barbarians and my background is barbarism so this is the first time a

communist party in the west has been led by a fucking

barbarian. And we're going to do it the barbarian way. We're not going to do it the Gandhi way.

We're going to do it the barbarian way. I'm not going to repeat myself. myself we are not gandhi communists we're not social democrats you want to know social

i've talked about this in the stream with eddie all right the social democrats they don't have the

muscles because they want to give the muscles to some other authority so they could go outside

and do the pinnacle of political action for them is holding up signs and demonstrating.

So that's the social democratic way. Have stable conditions so that we could, you know,

hand out pamphlets and, you know, demonstrate and, you know, do this and do that with our newspapers.

And that's the fucking Social Democrat way.

But the way of Bolshevism, and we are Bolsheviks, by the way, the Bolshevik way, implemented in China by Mao, the Bolshevik way is partisanship. The Bolshevik

way is standing on business. The Bolshevik way is self-defense. The Bolshevik way is militancy.

That's the Bolshevik way. We're not Social Democrats. We're Bolsheviks simple as that.

It's very simple.

So we're not intimidated or scared of anyone's threats.

You motherfuckers be ready.

Better be ready.

I'm not even going to talk or address these

fucking idiots. Frankly, let me say something

that's actually really mean.

Anyone who voices a political

opinion in

public, but who

isn't a Marxist, is a child in my eyes. You are a stupid small child in my eyes,

and I frankly am being honest with that. A pre-Marxist mind is basically the mind of a mentally retarded child, scared, confused.

Oh, that the Bolsheviks are eating the children and the Jewish Bolsheviks. You're a

fucking retard. And I'll tell you why.

I can elaborate on what I mean by that.

It has to do with the lecture I gave a few streams ago with respect to the question of consciousness.

By default, people do not have consciousness of of the the world of history right the world of the relations of production the mode of production they don't have consciousness so they get

glimpses of consciousness just like whippets i you, I use the example of whippets. You guys, once if you remember what I'm talking about, remember the shit I say, I don't say it for no reason, right? They get bits and pieces of consciousness, you know? So they get bits and pieces of consciousness, right? The only real consciousness is Marxism, though. Why? Because the knowledge that is given to you by Marxism is the only kind that tells you you are responsible for the object itself. You are responsible for

responding to the real object. Instead of cowering in terror over all of these subjective forces out there that are conspiring

to define reality according to their aims

Marxism alone tells us that they're all getting it wrong

that yes there are all of these conspiracies are real

they're all fucking real. Probably every single conspiracy theory is true. Yeah, the reptilians are there and the Freemasons and the Illuminati and the fucking eyes wide shut people and the ditty people and whatever. they're all there all of them are there but what

marxism teaches us is that they're all failing miserably to actually fulfill their conspiratorial aims because they have no knowledge of actual objective reality.

And actual objective reality is a disaster.

It's chaos.

It's a crash site where all of these conflicting wills and conspiracies are coming together in a mishmashed chaotic and grotesque way and the result is a is this kind of nihilistic anarchy.

It's this breakdown of the human soul.

The only common denominator is this fundamental persecution of human beings at every level, existential, spiritual, physical, you know, and that's at the intersection of all of these different failed conspiracies.

And Marxism alone looks at that intersection, looks at that persecuted humanity, identifies it as the proletarian

class, and initiates the process of real consciousness and real knowledge. Nobody knows

the proletarian class. They're all fucking ignoring it. They're all

talking about the Illuminati and the Freeman. They're all fucking going in every direction,

fixated on the vain idea that there's a motherfucker out there whose intentions are in control and are successfully defining

the course of reality and the truth is none are i'm not one to share private conversations

but i think he would be fine if i shared this one so So I will share it with you.

You know, I remember speaking to Zachar Prelepin in private.

Into the long hours of the night, we're all of us, Jackson, we're all, you all you know at the table and I remember I was

talking to him and we were asking the question of who is in control right and basically you

know he told me in Russian he told me he said uh because I was trying to float a bunch of things by i was like look you know

it's a hegemony it's a system it's this group it's that group uh and then he goes you know some people

say it's these different groups.

He says, I don't think, I don't think it is.

I don't think anyone's in control.

I think the way reality is going now isn't because someone has too much power, but because no one has power.

It's a result of our weakness.

It's not a result of the omnipotence of some omnipotent will.

It's the result of our own impotence and then you know he said that and he kind of got up and went to have a cigarette but i i really remember when he said that and he told me that

he's like the way he put it was much more poetic i don't remember exactly it was like he's like

i don't think anyone is all powerful i think everything that's happening is the result of no power

no one having power and that's so fucking true

that is so fucking true

that is so fucking true

you know

that really stuck with me

um um that really stuck with me um but you want to know what makes it so powerful it's it's not the fact

that the conspiracy theorists are wrong it's that this is true and simultaneously all of the conspiracy theorists are correct. You know how fucking crazy that is? That means all of these different groups are behaving conspiratorially and trying to conspire to control these different outcomes of reality, but they're too weak to be

successful and they're failing and it's just producing chaos. That's an incredibly deep thought

when you think about it like the conspiracies are correct but they're impotent they don't work or at least they don't work as intended they produce unintended outcomes and no one is taking responsibility for the unintended outcomes

a million conspiracy theories are in motion sorry a million conspiracies are in motion

and they're all as they're being implemented,

producing unintended outcomes,

and no one is taking responsibility for those outcomes.

But you want to know who did recognize the outcome.

Marx did.

Jacques Lacan, my teacher, who I never met or knew, or he was dead when I was born or something, but he's a teacher of mine still, said that Marx was the first to discover

the symptom.

But Lacan, what is the symptom?

The symptom is a, appears to be an unintended and inadvertent effect of something deeper.

It's a symptom, right?

That's what symptom means when it comes to mind.

We say, oh, this is a symptom of a more fundamental underlying disease.

But Lacan, drawing from the logic of cybernetics and systems theory, really, had this radically

novel concept of the symptom where the real cause is the symptom itself.

The whole cause of a given system or a given circuit or loop, right, or a given consistent reproduction of a given, you know, a trajectory or pattern or habit, whatever you call it, is glued together by its symptom.

And the symptom is unintended.

It could be a slip of tongue.

It could be this or that.

But the very unintended thing,

the thing that continues to return,

continues to rear its head, that is actually the foundation of the whole thing. That's the hidden and secret truth of the whole system is this

seemingly inadvertent byproduct, but the byproduct actually reveals the truth of the entire system

as the fundamental basis and glue tying it together, right? So this is the logic of the symptom.

And he said Marx was the first to discover the symptom because that is precisely what the proletariat is.

The proletarian class as it emerges is a symptom.

It's not the consequence of the Illuminati or the Freemasons or even the consequence of the capitalist class.

It's an indirect consequence of all of the different wills and intentions in motion in motion in society, and no one's taking responsibility for it but marks

decided to he decided to recognize in that and this is why lecon said marks blew meaning into the

symptom right he gave that meaning he said this is why LaConne said Marx blew meaning into the symptom, right?

He gave that meaning.

He said, this shows that there is meaning to all of this.

All of this madness of capitalism, all of this madness of political intrigue and chaos and instability that Europe was experiencing at the time, there's meaning to it. And the meaning lies in the proletarian class, the emergence of the proletarian class, as the, you know, the standard bearer of a new epoch of history, a new historical totality.

So... historical totality. So

how did we get here?

Ah, yes.

Conspiracism.

So

Marxism as a type of consciousness alone acknowledges that, you know, it not only acknowledges, it creates a form of knowledge that is involved in its object.

And what I mean by that is that instead of just talking about reality or trying to describe reality in many

different ways as an individual you know the very basis of your subjective position of anunciation, and that basis is a social basis.

And once you know this, right, once you acquire this knowledge, you partake and you participate in the conspiracy of history itself, which is not the product of anyone's intentions.

It's a rational process that is in the the uh that is suspended in development but which

isn't the result of an individual's intention or will that's what mar Marxism understands with respect to the development of history. History doesn't

proceed according to our wishes and whims and fancies. It proceeds in ways that are fundamentally inadvertent with respect to our various

intentions and our various diverse individual states of consciousness.

Mark said, men and women make history

but not as they please

and

to think about what that means

is that

the determination

of history

Mecca Timmer! What's up, brother? Thank you so much.

To think about what that means is that the determination of history

does not occur according to according to

the subjective whims

of consciousness

once we acknowledge

the inadvertent product

of our reality, of our social intercourse, so to speak, we acquire a type of consciousness which liberates us and frees us from the arbitrary speculations, the frightening, you know.

I mean, it's so stupid.

These things I'm reading under O'Canonist Post and his quote tweets, it's like, oh, the communist Marx, it's like, there's no knowledge here.

None of this is knowledge.

It's all like, they don't even know what's going on.

They're just kind of like,

I don't know what it is.

It's like,

I feel like we're space aliens

and we're looking at the reaction

of like a different species

that is encountering our existence

and reacting to our existence.

It's so very bizarre, so very strange.

It's like what, if only they knew the truth,

and what is the truth?

The truth is that Marxism gives rise to an ability to suspend the need to assume that meaningfulness has to be attached to individual subjectivity,

that out there in history or in the class struggle or in some kind of social conflict, right,

at the heart of society, which is fundamentally impersonal.

That that is actually where meaning is.

And that there doesn't need to be a conspiracy for it to proceed and for it to develop and for twists and turns to be taken with respect to that.

And I think that is so interesting to think about, you know. and Thank you. it all goes back to the logic of the symptom you know it's a very very important. I feel like I should even...

Every time I promise to write something,

it never gets written, you ever notice that?

But the logic of the symptom

is very fundamental to Marxism, I think.

And Lacan's notion, he said Marx was the first to discover the symptom.

And the symptomal kind of thinking, you know, it's so radical because I think Lacan was probably the first to draw out that fact that marks actually discovered the

symptom because corvid what's up because once you read the early marks under that lens

to try and make sense of mar's new kind of euphoric awakening

to the

proletarian humanism

the humanism of the proletariat

I think that

I think that

when you understand it in terms of Marx acknowledging a symptom that no one else had before acknowledged, it makes a lot of sense.

When Marx regards the symptom as humanity itself, a kind of repressed, a forsaken, and a cursed humanity that is being neglected in some kind of fundamental way, but which nonetheless we are participating in. It makes the early Marx very, very easy to read and understand where he's coming from.

But alas i mean uh everything is in indirect and inadvertent it's like you intend

something and the outcome is completely

different right

and that is my response

to all conspiracy theories yes all the

conspiracies are real

and you know you know why all the conspiracies are real. And you know why all the

conspiracies are real? Because

they themselves, the

Freemasons, the Illuminati, whatever the fuck,

they think they have that level

of control themselves. They think

oh, I'm going to

implement this, you know, they think that I'm gonna I'm gonna implement this you know they think that but in reality

what does the holy book say God is also planning they plan but so God plans but what does that

mean it means the real plan at the scale at which is unfolding.

It's radically, radically beyond the intentions of any, any consciousness, any intention or any individual.

It is an inadvertent product of association between individuals. It's an inadvertent result, or it's at least experienced as an inadvertent result of the, you know, the, I'm a diversity of intentions and wills and so on and so on. And that is the truth. The real plan is not for you. It's not your plan.

There's a plan. It's not your plan. It's not anyone's plan. It's not a plan of a group. It's not a plan of a, of an

institution. It's the plan of our real existence, and our real existence is not something we have the power to determine according to our subjective consciousness, whether that consciousness is elevated to the dignity and power of an institution, or whether that consciousness is the whims and dictates of a single individual.

This is why M.KK Ultra was leaked.

They wanted people to know the control they have, exactly.

But when you realize the control they have

doesn't fully succeed and produces unintended consequences, that's when things get interesting.

That's when things become very, very interesting.

But again, always regard and think about the practical consequences of a given stance. If I'm going to make a

claim about reality, oh, this group controls reality, what are the practical consequences?

For Robbie with the 10, the practical consequences is that I will be a grifter who grifts to get 10 subs.

Wow.

Wow.

Let me see where we're at.

We are at, are we at 889 or 899?

Because we are awfully close to the one, we're 889.

We are awfully close to the goal.

I didn't know we would get here this fast.

The November goal is 1,000 subs.

That's the November goal.

We're very, very close to it.

We're going to reach that goal in a matter of weeks, I think.

Anyway,

what was I saying?

Put subgo on screen?

No, I never did that on Twitch.

I'm not going to do it here.

I never did that on Twitch. I'm not doing that here. I just need to stream consistently. That's why I'm going to do it here. I never did that on Twitch.

I'm not doing that here.

I just need to stream consistently.

That's why I'm going to be streaming every day this week.

Monday, I'll be streaming tomorrow.

I'll stream Tuesday.

I'll stream Wednesday.

Thursday.

That's something else I have to talk about.

So, we're going to do the debate pretty soon, by the way.

I'm probably going to open up a space soon, very soon.

I just need to talk about a few more things.

Listen, guys.

On Thursday, here's another thing.

We are having our 107th anniversary October Revolution celebrations in Chicago.

H.B., what's up?

Yeah, we're having the debate.

But on Thursday, we are having a... Our 107th anniversary of the october revolution which thursday okay thursday and uh that's going to be in person i'm going to be in chicago with the chicago worker school people people if you've been there

you know you know what I'm talking about

and I'll be giving a speech

and we'll you know we'll have

a ceremonial symbolic

demonstration

and we plan on celebrating

that event.

So the, but it's November.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

I'm going to be a nerd.

I'm like, no, the October Revolution is called the October Revolution because they had a different calendar at the time of the event.

On our calendar, it was November 7th, but for the one that was in use at the time, it was in October, 25th.

So, I'm correct about that, right? 25th?

Anyway, Julian calendar, yeah, correct.

Anyway, um... Anyway, I think I fixed the stream lag, by the way, because, uh, I lowered the bit rate, and I think that is...

Wow!

Mecca Timmer with the 50!

Wow! 50 wow wow wow we are very much wow we are at 950 subs. Wow. Very much. Wow. Don't know what to say except wow. Wow. Thank you so much.

Appreciate that so much.

Anyway, um...

Anyway, uh, what was I saying?

What was I saying?

Yeah, yeah, the celebrations will be this Thursday

and I'll be giving a speech

and we'll be having a demonstration of some kind.

And that will and i hope you can make it i hope you can make it i'm not going to ask you to fly there you know um but you know as many people that

can come would be nice because here's why this is what i was

going to say we are celebrating okay we are celebrating and you know i hope to, I hope to God. I hope to God.

Nothing crazy happens this week because it's going to be a celebration. It's going to be a joyous time.

It's going to be fun. Okay? We're going to give give a speech we're going to have our ceremonial demonstration

and then we're going to fucking have a really fun time you know

I'm going to get cigars uh I'm not saying I'm gonna get cigars

I'm not saying I'm gonna drink

because I'm not

but maybe you guys can drink I don't know

we'll get pizzas

or we'll get McDonald's.

No, we shouldn't get McDonald's.

That's fucking disrespectful.

But when I'm saying it'll be fun.

It'd be like a nice get together, you know?

It'd be like, uh, I'm not going to call it a party.

Because it's not going to be like a bad. It's not going to be like a rager. I mean, I'm not going to call it a party. Because it's not going to be like a bad.

It's not going to be like a rager.

I mean,

I'm told me that's pretty stupid.

But it's like,

it's going to be like a,

what do you call it?

Like a,

like a,

like a, like a more professional kind of thing,

you know?

But it's still fun

still fun still fun

it's gonna be a gathering

yeah

be a gathering

uh

there's gonna

not gonna be dancing

unless Chris Hulley's there which which he's not going to be there.

But it'll be fun.

A function.

Yeah, that's a good way to put it.

So I encourage you to come.

Don't think of it as like just, oh, I have to come and like it's like a job.

It's also fun.

I'm not going to use that weird fucking French term because

I am not French

so you know

keep that one to yourself

anyway

so I hope you guys can make it

then

besides what I just mentioned what I just mentioned what So I hope you guys can make it then.

Besides what I just mentioned, what do I have to say?

What do I have to say?

Ah, yes, I hear that there's a, there's a, oh, the, the secret, the, the sacred writings of Hasaldine, some nonsense schizo shit that's being passed around. Uh, yeah, uh, check, fact, fact check your shit guys before you

look fucking stupid. Like like treating shit is real

that's just not real right some random schizophrenic

you know how many schizophrenics are in my fucking DMs

I don't respond to any of them but there's dozens and dozens

in a given day and they all are they just attach to me like flies to a lamp.

Because,

you know,

schizophrenics have to talk to me.

And,

uh,

you know,

I never get beautiful models in my DMs. I never get, you know, I never get beautiful models in my DMs.

I never get, you know,

I never get any of that.

I just get fucking schizophrenic.

Isn't that sad?

I don't, you know,

it's not like, you know,

I never get anything on my DMs,

on,

on X, on Twitter.

All I get are fucking crazy people.

And it's like, guys, I don't want you to talk to me.

Leave me alone.

If you're like a crazy fuck.

If you're a normal person, you're cool.

I'm cool.

I'm not an asshole.

Like, I respond to you guys a lot, actually, when you're like, you know, you're asking for help with something, whatever.

But it's like, when you're like on some shit where you're like i don't fucking know like the seventh dimension whatever like leave me

the fuck alone i'm not i'm not like uh i'm not like, uh, I'm not your, I'm not a fucking machine elf, all right.

I'm literally a human being. Oh man. Oh man.

Just crazy fucking people.

Machine elf.

It's very specific.

Yeah, I don't know.

I've been... Every time I shit, I go on TikTok.

Do you guys know that?

So I've been seeing some stuff on TikTok about some interesting things.

Debate when?

Now, I'm going to throw a curveball at you.

I can't actually host the debate because I have 99% of these people blocked.

And I have them blocked,

as you can tell,

because they're fucking,

you know,

they're worthless.

They don't actually contribute anything

under my replies or quote tweets,

but I just fucking have no patience for retards.

But those who debate me, I will debate them. So if you guys can host a space and then I it, and I can co-host it.

That'd be great.

I'm autistic, but I promise not to be a stereotype.

Self-awareness is a good step, I guess.

Have you heard that the planet of Mia is declared war on Earth and are launching laser attacks tomorrow to 30pm?

Don't care. Don't care don't care

manlets cannot be stopped

yeah that's another interesting thing about

um

my

great reputation on the internet is that because I look normally sized compared to everyone else in photos, everyone else has been dragged down with me. And now all of you are like extremely short.

So sorry about that.

But that's how everyone sees you, you know?

They just see you as like extremely, extremely just, you know.

Every time they show our convention, they're like, nobody above 5-7 and it's like it's like everyone is except me who's like 5-8 like I'm the short one all right the short one is

and then almost everyone else is uh quite tall actually um but no i've

dragged all of you down with me you're all dragged down with me so sorry about that yeah yeah literally this guy's six two but according to twitter no you're not below

six feet chomos you're below five two according to them which it doesn't even matter it's just a

stupid like topic but it's like

um i wonder if they say that about everyone honestly i don't know uh ask zirka 6 2 is manlet as Ask Zerk 6-2 is

Manlet

As Zirk

Anyway

Yeah

Kyle

Kyle Yeah Kyle's 58

Everyone knows

Kyle's 5-8 Everyone knows Kyle's 5-8

Danny Shaw

makes everyone

looks short

Danny Shaw is our

NBA player

Party NBA player

Um

Anyway Anyway You know I know I'm bringing it up because Um, anyway,

you know,

I'm bringing it up

because I feel like it's stolen valor.

It's like,

no,

I'm 5-8,

and you guys are the fucking peasants.

You guys are the fucking,

uh, you know

normies i'm the one who's

uh

comically short

who's compared to my personality

I think about this all the time

if I was

if I if I if I if I if I if I if I if I was... If I... If I...

If I... if I was like you guys...

Um...

Not like you guys.

But it would just be kind of stupid, you know?

Compared to my pretensions of being like a fucking warlord or some shit...

It would be really

fucking stupid if I was actually like very

tall. It would be really stupid.

It'd be like, yeah,

but you're not as tall as your ambitions.

So the contrast would be

even more...

I would look stupid.

But if I'm sure, and I have extremely

big ambitions, actually,

there's poetic beauty to it.

So you make... you think about it.

Anyway,

um...

Well, what a stupid topic.

I... what a stupid topic I think everything is for a reason

everything's for a reason

everything

all reputations are defined for a reason

everything is for a reason and Everything is for a reason.

And I trust the plan, whatever it is fully.

All right, Kyle, I fucked up somehow.

What did I do?

Host.

Oh, Kyle, yes, host it.

Yeah.

I thought Kyle, I was like, shut it down.

Shut it down.

No. it down shut it down um no anyway yeah kyle please host it I think I'm Napoleon I said a video on my Instagram

It's really the funniest video ever

But if I tell you about how funny it is, it's not funny anymore.

But I was scrolling on TikTok once.

It was like this Russian woman in court.

She was telling the judge, she was like, I can't live with him.

He thinks he's Napoleon.

And then the camera just cuts to a guy who's dressed as Napoleon.

And he's just like standing there.

He's just like standing there.

It was actually so funny, but I just ruined the joke because I made it sound

not funny. Anyway, sorry.

That was hilarious.

What topic

do you wish people would try to debate you

on more often? I people would try to debate you on more often?

I don't want to debate anyone anymore. I kind of just want to just beat them over the head with a wrench. That's a joke. Do I have to joke about that? Like, do I, that I want, that I dream of it?

Like, I'm not going to do it, but I dream of it.

Anyway, that guy in real life is fucked up if you look into it.

Of course.

Everything has to be deep

do you like any of the debaters

I have to think about it

the most high profile ones

no

debate anorex The most high-profile ones, no.

Debate anorexic people and why it's better to be fat.

I'm the chairman of the party now, so I can't make these comments.

But... these comments but there are many tragedies in that realm

there are

tragedies where some women

just decide to become skinny

you know women just decide to become skinny um

you know

and uh

very skinny and it's like

oh this is in vogue and it's like who

and it's like fuck

it's literally like kill you know it's like a fucking crime

it's like a war crime it's like a war crime

they're like oh it's vogue to be skinny it's like what the fuck does vogue mean you know um

yeah modeling yeah Um,

yeah, modeling.

Yeah, I'll tell you something about modeling.

Models

are not actually

attractive.

They're just supposed to look

a certain way so that any clothes can fit them someone told me

is they're just supposed to look good in clothes for the purity of the fashion but they're not

supposed to look attractive uh uh the giep there's a name bro how There's a name?

Bro, how is there a name?

There's a name for this?

And it's called the Giappocalypse on TikTok.

It's so crazy how like Other people are thinking about the same shit I'm thinking

Oh Ice Spice started

Johnsta

Like what the fuck is the purpose of the

Oh the Ozempic crisis. The gap apocalypse. uh check telegram

all right

let's uh

get this space going

um

I have to use

fucking blue stacks

Oh, the stream's probably gonna fuck up, by the way.

Buh.

Jay Summit Jay Summit saw me in person, shook my hand and decided not to tell me that he was Jay Summit.

He just told me his real name.

He was like, oh yeah, I'm, uh, I'm Fred.

Oh, nice to meet you, Fred.

Who the fuck is that, you know?

But, uh, that's what he did.

Yeah. that's what he did uh uh

all right

all right All right.

Blazor.

What's going on, Blazer?

What's going on, brother?

Chris!

Chris, Morlock

What is going on

brother

What's going on brother?

Okay

Here I am

All right Joe

I'm here Uh Joe i got to change the name something way more inviting

but bring me up bring me up brother here we go uh joe hold on. Waylo!

What's up, bro?

Joe,

can you change the name to something,

like,

just like,

what do you want?

ACP, or just do anti ACP, uh, just put like, anti-ACP debate. I think that'll attract people Like the minute they see anti-ACP

They'll be like

They'll be like entranced

Has that worked for you? they'll be like entranced it's like bait

you know you gotta get them to join

Chris is here

should

let's throw Chris up

Should I be co-host?

You should probably just be speaker

Because if you're co-hosts, some of these fuckers can't be added

Uh, bring Chris up

If you want

Yeah, yeah

Chris if you can hear

us request

if you want

if you don't want to you don't have to

yeah

uh

can't find them anymore I think he hopped in and out.

No, no, don't put Wreckers wanted. Just put debate. Anti-ACD debate.

Got it. We'll see if they hop in.

Yeah. we'll see if they have been all right. Alright, uh, do you see any requesters well we've got one it's your favorite guy who's uh featured prominently in a cnn piece. No, no, no, no,

Charmhole.

All right, fine, bring up Charmhole.

Literally for two minutes

until someone else comes.

All right, there you go.

All right, there you go. All right, what?

15, 14, 13, 12, 12, 11.

Hello?

Yeah.

Get him out of here.

He said hello and left.

Get him out of here.

The hell is that wasting time.

Nonsense.

All right.

You guys got to do your best to amp this shit up, spread it around.

Tag your favorite hater.

Yeah, tell them to come this is their time i actually am gonna go uh i'm congested and i have uh shit in my nose so i'm gonna clear it out so i can speak better

be right back all right The you know what I am brief. I can breathe now.

All right.

Charmhole says his shit crashed

and now he's back.

You want me to add him back?

No.

All right.

You only get one chance.

Is there anyone else or no?

Not yet.

We only got 86 so far.

See if I could have Eddie at least share this thing.

Wow.

Maybe make me co-host.

Can they really not join

if I'm co-host?

I feel like it's a myth.

That's what they've said in the past.

When I was a co-host with Eddie, it wasn't an issue.

I don't know.

You were dropped down from co-host a couple times, and then people were added, I don't know. You were dropped down from co-hosts a couple times and then people were added, I don't know.

These people are bitches.

Yeah, no one's requesting on my end either. Fuck.

Not a single person will debate, huh?

A bunch of bitches.

A bunch of bitches.

It's really sad.

But they'll type in gibberin, but they won't

use their voice. I can never respect these

people. They're literally not even human.

They'll type in my replies

nonsense,

but they won't use their voice.

There's men

who call themselves men.

They can't do that.

Because every time they do use their voice, what?

Then why are you fucking typing, you bitch?

Keep silent.

Yeah.

We have one request.

Bring them.

You triggered one.

Who?

Yeah, bring them up.

Hello?

This is not...

How's it going?

Uh, an enemy, Kyle.

Oh, why the fuck are you requesting?

I had a question, actually.

All right.

But make you quick, please.

Because this is for enemies.

No, this is not really an enemy thing, but it is a question about the ACP.

Yeah.

What is the ACP's official position on the Khmer Rouge?

Because I've been hearing a lot of conflicting things.

We don't have an official position on that.

All right.

We don't.

Because, like, as an Asian, you know, communist,

I kind of take umbrage to all the Pol Pot kind of praising that goes around.

Well, he was Asian himself, though, wasn't he?

No, I'm aware of his ethnicity, but I think a lot of Asian communists, particularly

Vietnamese and Chinese and

you know, it's a very sensitive issue.

China supported him, didn't they?

Did they deport him? No, they supported him.

They armed him. Yes, they supported him. They armed him.

Yes, they did.

They did.

It's a very contentious situation, but I guess, like, I just want to clarify what the ACP.

Well, yeah, we don't have an official stance on that.

Anyway, I could see there's haters here, but are they going to request and are they

going to...

Are they going to request to speak?

Probably not.

Get loon.

Yeah.

Loon.

Apparently is a hater.

Bring up the loon person.

This is true.

All right. Are they going to come up though or no?

Because some people just like venting, but they have no intention on actually making

any arguments.

They just like venting to the void.

Huh. I have invited Loon.

Let's see if they request. just keep tagging them that's the best way Oh, there we go.

Okay, Loon, what is your issue with the ACP?

Go ahead.

How's it going? Can you hear me good?

Yeah. All right. Okay. how's it going can you hear me good yeah all right yeah i mean i just disagree with the way that you know

you tell tell right wing forces, how are we doing that?

Oh man.

I mean, you just talk to fucking, you know, Trump people people and that's all the people that you

want to recruit from so

okay

um

do so what is

your issue with me I mean you guys are the ones that are trying

to give me on the space the community is saying that

you have a problem with ACP.

So, and you're saying we tail right wing forces

because we talk to Trump people.

It doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Can you elaborate?

No, it's because you tell them.

It's not just because you talk to them.

How do we tell them?

I mean, I don't.

I mean, your whole fucking

mega communism platform and that's what

it's about. So, I mean...

Where's the tailing

going to? I mean, you said that...

Louan, do you know what tailism means, first of all, or no?

Because it sounds like you don't know what it means.

So, you know about the

spectrum upon which

advanced or forward or backward is defined with respect to the

tail, tailing or leading,

or going in front or going behind,

has to do with revolutionary stance. So the extent to which you are opposed and willing to overthrow the government.

So if you're tailing behind the masses, it means you're tailing behind the masses to the extent that, for example, they have more reformist inclinations, or, you know, they're not really ready to challenge the government and they kind of want to be tamer.

It has nothing to do with your cultural views on transgenderism.

So please stop abusing the word

taleism because you're just

revealing your ignorance, frankly.

Why do you feel like

MAGA has won the cultural war?

Because that's what you said in a space.

You know what?

I don't know why you're talking about MAGA. I don't need to mention maga when i'm talking to my cousins

or when i'm talking to random people on the street who aren't brainwashed by the institutions

that you have been so deluded in your experience with to think actually reflect the views

of ordinary people. The overall

majority of Americans are deeply skeptical

of the cultural adventures that

quote unquote progressive institutions

are artificially trying to impose on

the rest of the country. You don't need to be a MAGA

supporter to find that ultimately

just not something that's working out very well. And you know, I want to know how I know that

because the very institutions themselves, even the corporations, even the media, they themselves

are starting to rein in on the quote unquote woke stuff because they realized there was a total failure and it's just not working. Go ahead. So what is woke? What is what does woke mean to you? Go ahead. If you don't know what it means, um, and if that, if that, if you don't know, you're the term in of the fucking party so why don't you

i don't think woke is like some sort of all it's not the why do you use it like what the

fuck oh yes we must only on on kyle i need to get a word in loon so before i unmute you I want a commitment on your part that you're gonna let me get a sentence in

Because you're screaming into the mic extremely angry and it sounds like you're just

Tilted about something. I don't know what it is. I don't even know who you are

But please make the

commitment that you're willing to allow me to get a single sentence in go ahead

you're unmuted go ahead okay yeah go ahead what did you want to say then so ahead.

Okay, yeah, go ahead.

What did you want to say then?

So I actually defined whokeness myself before.

I don't, I actually think I'm going to define it, but to be clear,

I don't think I need to define it. I think everyone

knows what it means. It's basically

common sense, as far as everyone's experiences are concerned. Why even refer to the term anyway? Why even get mad about us supposedly engaging in Taylor's or whatever you're talking about? So you've made the commitment that you're going to allow me to speak without interrupting me, but you've already failed in terms of that commitment. Are you going to let me finish what I wanted to say or no? Go ahead, Loon. Defined woke. Yeah. Wokeness is attempting to artificially contrive our cultural habits and

sensibilities according to the subjective dictates of political consciousness okay and do what right-wing people not do that? Or they're not any conservative forces that do the same thing? Or is it just liberal? The right-wing forces that are attempting to do that, if you could say that, are extremely marginal and not very represented

in the mainstream institutions

that rule society.

And to that extent, all it takes to

oppose the quote unquote woke stuff

is to just be someone who doesn't

buy into it and is indifferent to it. That's

the difference. You can be someone who's

completely indifferent and just immersed in your everyday habits and be canceled as someone who's

insensitive and bigoted and stuff. And you could be someone who has no political consciousness

whatsoever and get crucified on the cross of being a bigot who

crossed too many lines and is transphobic and whatever just because of your indifference. Whereas

the reverse can't really be said to be true. When have, you know, when right-wingers attempt

to overreach, and they have in the past, by the way, this was especially pronounced in the Bush years with the evangelicals. I remember it myself when, you know, the religious fundamentalists would get super triggered over like stuff pertaining to people making jokes about religion or crossing too many lines when it comes to their sensibilities.

But, you know, there was a tremendous reverse with the rise of social media.

And this was a sciop to basically destroy the Occupy Wall Street consciousness that was in 2011, where, you know, so-called leftists started partaking in similar behavior.

Okay.

Can you define why you believe the ACP is the Vanguard party and how it's operating as such?

What do you mean?

How do you feel like you're applying the like the mass line of the you know malzidong and all these things to the american context would you say oh because we're actually going down to america's working class communities and deriving our position as a party on the basis of a dialogue and interaction with those communities.

And we're sending...

Well, Hans, you're forgetting...

Shut up.

Shut up.

Shut up.

Shut up.

Shut up.

Haas, you're forgetting that talking to the American masses is just tailing the right

you know this this fucking

right I find that so strange you're asking us about Mao's

mass line while simultaneously accusing

us of tailosom for partaking in

just that I just doesn't make any sense

anyway Loon you said that you had

a problem with us. We're not

here for you to ask me 21 questions and

define a million different things. Why don't you

open a dictionary if that's what you're interested in?

If you want to critique our party, go ahead and do it.

Instead of asking me a million to define

a million different things.

Can I ask you a question? No no you can critique our party go ahead

okay so in a couple of spaces ago you said that it was unimportant to think about LGBTQ issues

because it's kind of like a

minority population, right?

That's what you said, right?

Yeah, it's a form of

navel gazing. That's what I said, because it's a form

of navel gazing.

But

you know, LGBTQ people might be a minority, but the people who support them are not a minority.

It's actually a majority.

There's a lot of people that support the LGBTQ movements and people.

Would you say the majority of Americans are okay with their children being exposed to

sexual imagery in their school books when they're in elementary school?

Would you say the majority of Americans are fine with their children being taught about

LGBT issues in elementary school?

Okay, so we can speak on like specific issues.

No, no, no, no.

Loon.

Are the majority of American parents okay with their children in elementary school learning about LGBT issues as you would put it.

I mean, define learning about it.

Learning about the intimate details of, you know, like how to define your gender, that gender is subjective that anyone can identify however they want to, that, you know, learning about gay sex, which were in public school libraries, in Hamtramic, which is close to where I live, where the Muslim community overwhelmingly rejected. The Democratic Party, this, in this time around in the elections in part because of that by the way

do you think the majority of American

parents are okay with that kind of stuff

be honest

so I would

I would say that it depends on if it's in the curriculum

of this you know or if it's like

you know it teaches like teaching their children about like you know, or if it's like, you know, a teacher is like teaching their children about like, you know, different types of people that exist. What are you talking about? Are parents okay with children, teachers teaching their children about gender theory and gender identity and things like that. Go ahead.

I mean, I don't know. I mean, you tell me. How do you know?

I think... Well, I think... As a parent...

I think it's pretty safe to assume the overwhelming majority of parents are extremely hostile to that.

When you say the majority of people in America

quote-unquote support LGBT people,

I think what you're probably referring to

is that they all agree

that they shouldn't be persecuted,

which I agree with that too, by the way.

So what's the issue?

What is this issue?

Why is it every time someone who is, quote unquote, supposedly agrees with us on every issue when it comes to foreign policy, you yourself seem to be reping Mao Zedong thought, which kind of sounds like you don't reject the fact that China is socialist.

So you seem to agree with us on everything, but I come up, I ask you critique our party.

What's your issue with our party?

And it always goes back to this naval gazing obsession with sex what is wrong with you

well my main issue is how you relate to people you know if you're not very likable and

you know people don't like you then how are you going to win any support?

So it's not that you have issues with me or someone else or with our party.

It's that you're making the assumption that we are disliked by others on account of my personal.

I mean, you're disliked by liberals, right?

Okay. Can I ask you something? What class back? You're disliked by liberals, right?

Okay.

Can I ask you something?

What class background do you think the majority of liberals come from?

I mean, I don't know.

I mean, it's probably 50-50.

I mean, probably there's probably more conservative people that are in the, you know, more productive areas of the economy, I would say.

But, I mean.

So would you say that liberals are people who make a living primarily from, like like institutions that are primarily about mental labor

i mean i would i would say that the people who support liberals you know or what segments of the masses are liberal in your estimation because even among sections of the american masses such as like this used to be the case for example the black community supports democrats a lot but they are not culturally liberal when it comes to their views on things they have have deeply conservative views. They're very religious.

They're very much going to church, a lot of them at least, every Sunday, and they're still voting

Democrats. So even they wouldn't be colloquially regarded or considered as liberals. Do you believe

that there are culturally liberal

conservatives as well, or like Trump

supporters, I should say?

It depends

on what you mean by culturally liberal. I think

Americans in general are pretty

culturally liberal in the sense that they don't care about what people do

privately or even individually as long as it doesn't negatively impact others.

So I think that's most Americans, to be honest.

So you have to ask yourself what red lines have the quote unquote liberals crossed for people to be regarded as conservative in this country and i think for you to say that are the problem with acp is oh you're too conservative you're this and that i I think relative to other countries

and other communist parties around the

world, which I can attest to personally,

I was just recently in

not only Russia, but in Dunyetsk.

I think the ACP is

profoundly less conservative than they are.

So I don't know what your issue is.

I don't know what...

I'm trying to understand where you're coming from in terms of your problem

and you're not really communicating.

I'm coming...

Yeah.

I'm coming from an American standpoint, right?

So my question to you would be,

why do you feel like you don't have to unite

like the communist movement in the United States?

Like why do you feel like,

because you call them leftist scum

and we don't care about them

and we're going to follow the MAGA people.

I mean, that's what it said in your...

Okay, who is...

Hold on, Kyle.

Let me handle this.

Who is creating the discursive barriers

that are an obstacle to unity?

Is it us or is it them?

Both of you guys.

No, it isn't.

No, it isn't.

Because they started before before Maga Communism was a slogan, which was from 2022, is when it began, that slogan.

They started it by calling us fascists right off the gate, that we're Nazis and we need to be shot and killed that's what they said

this is what these fascists said to us there are the fascists by the way but that's what they said

they erected a discursive barrier throughout the outset i challenged all of them to debate none of

them would debate none of them would have any discussion or dialogue.

Their minds were made up and they erected a discursive barrier according to which a friend-enemy distinction was made in which they identified us as the enemy.

So who is the obstacle and impediment to unity among communist forces. By the way,

are you aware of Lenin's famous quote about unity or no?

I mean,

not really, I guess. Go ahead.

What is it?

Unity between Marxists,

or unity between Marxists and the

enemies of Marxism.

In any case, I'm going to

be honest with you. I'm not going

to sacrifice my party's ability

to engage an open dialogue

with the masses in the name

of uniting

a bunch of mentally ill

deranged people.

See, that's my issue, right?

So why do you put...

Why should we as a party

sit around and hold hands

with people who happen to fucking use

the same words that we

do while sacrificing our

ability to actually talk to the

overall majority of the American working

class who doesn't share our

consciousness. Why would we want to

sit in a hug box and sit in a little

circle jerk

just with people who... Well, that is what you're saying

because we, our party is literally

open to anyone who

is just willing to prioritize

work among the masses, rather than

attending to the special snowflake

feelings.

I mean, you're the chairman.

Name a single successful communist in the history of mankind

who united the left rather than

divided it very violently.

But she's still got to work a little bit.

Name a single successful

communist in the history of mankind

who united the left.

Go ahead.

Portions of the left,

probably? No, no, no. You said

we are a portion of the left. So I said unite the left probably do the no no you said we are a portion of the

left so I said unite the left

name us because that's what you told me to do

name a single one who did it and was

simultaneously someone who successfully

sees the reins of power

you're never going to get everybody

on your side so that's not what I'm saying.

All right.

Well, we are the American Communist Party.

We are literally open to anyone who is willing to do work.

Why should I believe that you're the American Communist Party?

Why should I believe that?

Because if you tried to be the American Communist Party. Why should I believe that? Because if you tried to be

the American Communist Party, you'd fail

because you and a bunch of other people who have the mentality that you have

are idealists, you're idealists and your sectarians

and you start dividing and bickering and canceling each other and taking

everything personal because you're a bunch of infantile idiots frankly excuse my friend i mean

you don't have the maturity to put aside your differences and put aside your personal views

and resentments and

personal opinions on things and just

unite on the basis of selflessly

devoting your lives to the cause

of the working class. The minute any

of you guys are able to pull something like

that together, I'll concede about

doubting the possibility that we are the true

communist party. But none of you are able to do that. You can't even fucking create anti-ACP discord or

Twitter groups without having fallouts every single week where you split up into a million different fucking sects.

You literally have splits in your anti-ACP discords and Twitter groups.

You can't even create record organizations that have a unified discipline of collective organizations.

You also failed to realize that the party was started by unifying a large, wide swath of people from different parties.

We had people from the PCUSA come in, like 80% of their membership.

We had huge contingents of the CPUSA

that folded into the ACP.

We had groups that were kicked out of the CPUSA,

entire clubs, two of them in different states,

join the ACP.

I don't give a fuck what you support.

You don't understand that you are talking about divide, divide, divide.

All we have done is unify.

That's why you're in silen premise.

You've unified MAGA fucking people.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

The PC USA was fucking MAGA people.

Let's be calm.

I'm not going to swear.

I'm not going to swear.

I'm going to be calm.

I'm going to be patient, right?

I'm trying to learn patience.

You tell culturally right we're being conservative.

Lun.

Let me get a word in because you sound like an NPC right now.

I know you want to get this all off your chest.

We hear you loud and clear.

You're Maga, you're tailless, you're fascist, you're this.

We get it.

We know where you're coming from.

You have a mental illness.

Can I respond to it or no?

Go ahead.

You're unmuted.

Go ahead. You're unmuted. Go ahead. Unmuted.

Ball's in your court. Do you want to hear my actual response to what you have to say?

Yeah, go ahead.

Midwestern Marx were not Maga communists.

Eddie critiqued the slogan Maga communism when it first started going viral.

So infrared united with Midwestern Marx.

So to say that all we have done is brought Maga people together is frankly ridiculous. First of all, we haven't brought

Maga people together. They're already together

in the actual Maga movement. We've brought

Maga communists together, yes, but we've also brought

people like Midwestern Marx into the fold, and also people who are not necessarily going around calling themselves Maga communists, but are Orthodox Marxist Leninists, and we're sicken tired of the CPSA's revisionism and tailing of the Democrats, actually.

So you're completely wrong that all we're doing is uniting MAGA.

I mean, you don't even know what you're not even making the basic

Leninist operational distinction between the masses and cadre.

That's where you're really fucking up here.

The Maga masses, hypothetically,

according to the theory, that's the masses.

That's not Cadre.

Cadre are people who have advanced...

They're a portion of the masses.

They're not the entire masses, right?

Yeah, yeah.

But hypothetically, according to the theory, they represent a segment of the masses.

They don't represent the theoretically class-conscious, you know, cadre of the party.

So you're not even aware of these basic distinctions in Marxism, Leninism, and you keep screaming about Maga very loudly in your mic, by the way. I don't know if you're aware of this. Maga! You're really yelling it really loudly, and I think you have a pathological issue with the MAGA thing that I don't understand.

Why are you crying about MAGA, MAGA, MAGA?

When have we ever...

We haven't even strongly leaned on...

When did your new essay coming out then?

That's liberal communism.

Let's bring those people in.

Never.

Because, because...

Yes, so you're fucking tailing the Macca people.

No, that's not how tailism works.

I'm trying to be patient.

You're basically saying that unless we regard fanatical liberals

with the same significance.

So what are you saying?

Are you saying that?

Okay.

Do we think that the MAGA, do we think that your average blue-collar MAGA supporter has the same significance with respect to revolutionary strategy that are raging

Libtar does. We don't think they have equal significance. So are we tailless because of that?

Is that what you're saying? I have a question. So are they excesses in the, so conservative

people, there's excesses, there's the gropeers, there's like, you know, far right people.

And then in the left wing, there's like, you know, they all hate Maga. There's all the ultra, yeah, there's the ultra leftist. It's like, you know, I mean, I'm not, I don't, I don't But they're not equal. You don't even understand dialectics.

You're assuming.

You're assuming with respect to American politics right now,

that like MAGA is the same thing as Kamala supporters,

and that's not true at all.

It's not true at all, all, all, all.

It's even absurd to think that all, all, all. It's even

absurd to think that fucking groipers

are anything like MAGA people.

Hold on. First of all,

we,

you don't even know what MAGA

communism is. You clearly haven't read the

substack. You haven't read my follow-up

long form article

that I posted on X,

which actually clarified all the criticisms

of Maga Communism for a second time.

But you just know about the meme

and you know about the phrase and you know about the

outrageous significance and conjures in your head. You're running a about the meme and you know about the phrase and you know about the outrageous

significance and conjures in your head

you're running amok with all these conclusions

that you yourself have drawn

without even understanding where we're coming from

in the first place

originally by the way

the Maga communism

phase of our

movement,

our movement,

ours, right?

Is more or less

successfully,

it's successfully

finished.

So we don't,

we don't emphasize

it anymore

because the goals were already accomplished

we've already successfully initiated the process by which we have entered into a discourse

in a dialogue with uh the the uh i would call them the progressive

and

the elements

among the Maga movement that had

progressive and revolutionary potential

you know we've already successfully initiated

a dialogue and an ability

to speak to them

and by the way everyone's a Maga

communist now you yourself probably

Hassan Pikes become a Maga communists. Everyone

has. It's superfluous now. It's not even

like you're making

You believe Maga has won the cultural war and that's kind of why it's not even like... Yeah, because you're making... You believe Naga has won the

culture war, and that's kind of why... It's not

about the culture war. You are such...

I'm not going to swear. I'm trying to be patient.

Listen, Loon, you're frustrating

me a lot, because it seems like you're trying... Because you feel so

passionately and strongly

about LGBTQIA

plus, am I missing something, issues?

Because you feel so passionately and strongly

about those issues, you are

assuming that the

whole Maga communism thing was about

that, and that's what it was all

about and that

is really frustrating because it's narcissistic

nobody cares about your naval gazing

obsessions we're not obsessed

with it like you're obsessed with it

would you say that you have a preference

for Maga people the movement in your party

our argument was why do you know why we started that slogan do you know what it was about

you think it was about culture war because it wasn't so do you know what it was about? You think it was about culture war because it wasn't. So do you know what it was actually about?

So what is your issue with leftists? If it's not about the culture war, then why did you call them leftist scum and all this stuff?

It's about it's about a type of consciousness

and a type of political environment

in which people are more skeptical

of the prevailing institutions

of society and especially the media

when liberal leftists

are not skeptical

as well they're, they're not.

They ran cover for Big Pharma.

They believed in the Ukraine narrative.

They not only believed it, they were

at the vanguard of it.

Bernie Sanders, what was that movement about?

I think Kyle

was as well, Reve was as well,

I was as well, we were all fucking Bernie

bros in 2015, dude, you didn't even know who you're talking

to. Bernie Sanders sold out

to the Democrats in 2016

and his movement died.

I agree.

Okay, why are you yelling about it then? What are you

even talking about? I'm asking you

Why do you believe that the MAGA base

is more revolutionary than the fucking

Bernie Sanders? The Bernie Sanders base does not exist anymore.

All of the fucking people

in the Bernie Sanders movement either went to Trump

or they just stopped caring about

fucking politics. He took the words out of my mouth. There you know.

Because the DNC is corrupt. I mean,

that's mostly... Right. So you're talking about a base

that doesn't exist.

So why... Yeah, what base are you talking about?

No, they don't.

Do you hear about the Bill Clinton base? Like, what are you talking about?

Just because the D&C is corrupt

doesn't mean those people don't exist.

Listen, Loon. Liberals.

I just told you what they were.

Liberals. If you want to call Bernie people liberals.

You don't wear. Tamaga? I mean, I don't think so.

If you recall, if you recall correctly,

the Bernie base was actually

called by liberals at the time,

Bernie bros, because they were perceived to

be, you know, regressive and

reactionary and chauvinistic culturally

according to them.

So you don't even know what you're talking

about when you're using the word, the idea that there's a still what you're talking about when you're using the word lit.

The idea that there's a still, you're talking about Hassan Pikeshers viewership.

Please just be honest and tell me that's what you mean.

You're just talking about Hassan Pikers community.

Because you're probably a Hassan viewer.

Are you a Hassan Piker viewer?

Yes or no.

Do you watch Hassan streams on Twitch?

Not anymore.

I used to.

When?

When did you?

About the same time that Jackson Hinkle was a viewer of Hassan Piker as well.

So is that who you're thinking about

Is Hassan Piker

And his viewers

When you're talking about the Bernie people

Because I don't know what you're talking about

What are you talking about

You don't believe the Bernie base still exists

Or like in some

capacity? All right, let me

let me, I'm going to be charitable, Loon,

because I'm not here to torture you and humiliate you.

I'm actually going to try to make this argument for

you better. I think what you're trying

to say, okay, don't

interrupt me, what you're trying to say is you think that if there was someone who had the balls to insist on a, you know, progressive, you know, progressive kind of more economically left-wing politics that the same base that was galvanized by Bernie Sanders would could be reactivated somehow and that right now no one's representing them and they're being left a lot of them are being left out and they don't have a voice really in politics

is that what you're trying to say

yeah I would say so

yeah well we agree with you on that

and we're so we don't understand

what the issue is we don't think

my issue is why do you feel like

if you think we are...

It's Loon. Let me be charitable.

I'm not here to like

break your head with

a baseball bat. I'm going to be...

I'm going to try to have us arrive at some

kind of dialogue here. And I'm going to try

my best. all right?

So,

we don't actually exclusively

think that only

you know, die-hard Maga support.

We know that there's people

who are apathetic. We know that there are

people who are indifferent. We also know that there's people who are apathetic. We know that there are people who are indifferent.

We also know that there's people who might

shrug their shoulders and

passively have liberal views on things.

And we're perfectly aware of that.

The miscommunication here

comes from when, when you say liberal

as like an equivalent to Maga

we kind of have in mind

like the fanatical Kamala

supporters and because those people

are all bloodthirsty war mongers

who want to bomb Russia and stuff

so of course we have

so I'm speaking of like culturally liberal people and culturally conservative is what I mean.

I want to create a distinction here, right?

Because my goal is communication and dialogue.

So I would say there's two kinds of people that come to mind when I hear the word culturally liberal.

There's people who are kind of passively shrug their shoulders, have liberal views.

They're just kind of open to others, and they're, you know, they don't particularly, you know, they're tolerant types, if you could call it that.

And we have no problem with those people.

But the issue has to do with like the woke scolds, and I know you're going to tell me to define woke, but I think you know damn well when I'm talking about here, who basically, let's say we're in a meeting in one of our Communist Party chapters, and the majority of people happen to be like white or something, white males or or cisgender or or ably

body and they'll randomly make a problem of that so that is the kind of liberal we want nothing to

do with and that's that's what we mean by that If you're talking about people who are more

passively liberal, who are just kind of more indifferent and therefore

also kind of more passively liberal, sure, but when we're talking about people

who like, you know, are scolding, the scolding types,

that is what's coming to mind

when you're using that word.

I don't know if that's what you intend or not,

but that's why I think there's a problem

with communication here.

So,

would you say that you're culturally conservative to some degree?

On a personal level, you're asking on a personal level?

Yes, far more than, far more than American conservatives on a personal level.

And what about...

All that means is that it has to do with, like, my personal life.

It doesn't have to do with, like, how I... I don't... I'm not a detrimental...

You represent the party to some degree, though. I mean, you're the chair...

But I also have a private personal life

that is not party business so and so as far as the rest of the leadership is concerned would you say that

most of them are liberal no i think i think these distinctions are not very meaningful when it comes to communists

because communists i think communists uh would be classified by liberals as very conservative in general

but i think communists themselves I don't think

communists, we are not

ideologically conservative, but

I think communists have

conservative intuitions and sensibilities by default.

And I think that's true for all communist parties, almost all major communist parties in the world.

History.

I mean, I'm not like, I wouldn't say that I'm like an ultra liberal or anything like that.

But I would say that I'm like an ultra-liberal or anything like that. But I would say that, you know, history speaking, you know, it kind of trends in that direction of being more progressive.

Yeah, I think that's a completely false understanding of history which

is based in

American liberal

progressivism from the early

20th century has nothing to do

with Marxism. So Marxism

doesn't say that

culturally speaking, the more we become loose and the more we become de-territorialized and the more we become jellyfish, the more progress, progressive we are.

That's not the Marxist view with respect to what progress means.

So I have a question as far as like, let's say that your party wins the, what is it going to, a military coup or I don't know how you foresee coming into power, you know, in the next 20 years or whatever it is, but, you know, let's say 20 years from now, will you have a policy on the transgender issue?

But why would we need one?

I mean, I'm just having a question for you.

I mean, because I see Jackson Hinkle, you know, he retweets a lot of stuff as far as, like, Russia's, you know, law with regards to, like, LGBTQ people and and stuff and he seems to be

do you think Jackson's

engaging in any kind of

misinformation with respect to that

not

not as far as like it being

misinformation but you know it seems like he seems excited not as far as it being misinformation, but

you know, it seems like

he seems excited, you know,

that Russia is kind of doing. I'm going to go ahead

and take a leap here.

I actually think Russia has

very good laws with respect

to issues like this.

I've been to Russia many times, I mean, relatively speaking.

I've been to Russia, actually not many times, but I've been there long enough to have an idea and have a pulse on the extent of, you know, poor social conservatism.

Russia experienced liberalism after the 90s.

I mean, it's not like Russia is like Afghanistan or something.

It's not.

And Russians are not, you know, Russians are normal people, but because they,

their ruling institutions don't have these like, quote unquote, progressive agendas to change

society's sensibilities artificially, it's depicted by the West is incredibly backward and aggressive, not because it's

curtailing people's freedoms. It's not, actually. I mean, for example, LGBT identities are not

criminalized in Russia. What's criminalized is propaganda aimed at children. That's LGBT in content, which I think is pretty reasonable, actually, to be honest.

Yeah, I mean, it would depend on how you define propaganda, right? Like, if someone's just existing on the street and they, they, it's like a man wearing a dress or whatever right is that propaganda yeah but that's not criminalized what would be criminalized is something like a pride parade in the streets where people are naked and engaging in sexual acts.

Yeah.

That's not just propaganda, by the way.

It's public indecency.

Yeah, I mean, it would depend on how the, you know,

I don't know Russia's entire laws and everything in terms of that.

Russians are very modern,

at least in Moscow. They're very modern.

And other major cities as well, obviously.

They're very modern.

And, you know,

I think, I don't think there's anything wrong with, you know, their views

on these things

to be honest.

And I don't think they are

like alien to the sensibilities

of your average American, frankly.

I think every time Americans go to Russia,

unless they are like a liberal,

ideologically fanatical liberal

they get the strong impression that wow this just makes

so much more sense and I wish we were more like this

yeah I mean I support Russia you know as far as like the military

the economy I feel like they're going

in a better direction, but

you know, I don't support necessarily

all of the culture stuff as far as

cracking down on

LGBTQ people.

The movement, I mean, it defines on how you do,

depends on how you define the movement, right? So, I mean, it defines on how you do, it depends on how you define

the movement, right? So,

on all of that, you know, all the extreme

stuff like, you know, being naked in the street.

The issue, again, I've,

look, you can just watch my stream with Daniel Tut.

I don't know if you've seen that.

And I've basically fully elaborated what I think on the whole thing.

You know, the issue for me has to do with the quote unquote critique of heteronormativity.

And that's what we reject.

We don't want to exterminate minorities.

We don't want to hunt them down.

We have no interest in interfering with the private business of adults.

We just

do not want to

encourage the tendency of communists

being marginal on the

margins of society in all

respects, not just with respect to their

sexuality.

So that's our view.

Okay.

That's all I have to say about.

I do have a follow-up question, actually.

You made a post on the 13th of October, and you said I probably won't be able to join any professional organization again due to my mental health issues and also because I like having a bit more freedom in my posts.

I plan to donate to ACP Main once that option becomes available to tentatively support the party.

So I'm just curious what changed between early last month.

I don't agree with the way the leadership talks to people sometimes.

And I don't, it's not a personal thing necessarily.

It's just that I don't feel like you're going to, you'll win support with being that way.

Is my main critique?

But win support among who?

Because we need to be clear about what we're talking about

liberals or

you know left wing

people

because

I just gotta

I just gotta ask

like I just you to ask.

You're so wrapped up in the liberal thing.

I just don't get it. Let me just ask a basic question.

So, Loon, would you say sectarianism is a big problem on what little remains among the left wing in America

if there is any at all?

Yeah.

I mean, that's a problem, isn't it?

And frankly, look,

it's ugly, but it's just the truth.

There were a lot of people from the Bernie camp,

and they started to become the target of like Alexander Reed Ross

and these kind of anarchistic types,

and they called them like Nazbels and red brown and all this kind of stuff.

And before infrared was even a thing,

the tankies

quote unquote were under attack

who supported fascist states

like China and Russia, whatever.

And they were being accused

of being red brown and all this kind of stuff. So whether you like it or not, a hard line is going to be drawn by a muscular, I don't know if that's too culturally loaded for you, but a muscular left wing, a strong left wing, a left wing that's actually a left wing, not a Democrat appendage, not liberals, a real left wing.

If that ever emerges in this country,

it's going to be categorized

by liberal. It's going to turn off

a lot of these liberals and left-wing people that you're talking about,

quote-unquote left-wing people.

Because real left- wing politics is muscular.

It's proactive.

It's aggressive.

So do you need muscle to shoot a gun?

I have a question.

What I mean by muscular is a willingness to defend and stand on an independent political power.

And liberals can't do that.

No, because they depend on the democratic power.

Only conservatives can do that.

Well, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say something.

Not conservatives in a sense of Republicans, because they're pussies 100%.

I mean, they can't do anything.

But I think, yes, to build any kind of independent authority, key word is authority, right?

There takes a great degree of what we would otherwise say, we would call them conservative sensibilities, which has a lot to do with a strong sense of discipline, a strong sense of respect for authority, a strong sense of self-sacrifice, a strong sense of numbing and blunting your personal feelings in the name of doing what is necessary.

And those things are

What are they respecting then?

For example

a left-wing

political party, right,

of some kind. That's not the Democratic Party right of some kind that's not the democratic party

of some kind uh... but is that a marchist party or is that just well we regard it

kyle and i regard it as the american communist party

but it could be hypothetically any

independent left-wing movement or political party or even you know

personality if the burney had balls let's say in 2016 that decided to insist on a left-wing politics

so it could be anything but, breaking away from the liberal jellyfish Democrats, yeah, you have to grow a spine.

And growing a spine is a very violent thing, even not necessarily physically violent, but it's a very violent,

abrupt and aggressive thing, and it's definitely something that's very easy to categorize

as like right-wing coded or conservative or something. If you looked at the militancy and the discipline of like the Red Army during the Civil War or during the Great Patriotic War or the KGB or like communist historically who were guerrilla fighters, they would be regarded by jellyfish liberals as fascist just because they had a backbone.

And this is a reality Americans

need to understand that our cultural

codes, where we code

something, oh, this is right coded,

this is left coded, oh, this is conservative coded,

this is liberal coded. It's all

warped and jumbled

and messed up and it's

precisely designed, I think,

if I'm not being too conspiratorial,

in such a way

that makes it impossible

for a left-wing dissident

and revolutionary movement

to ever take form. Because

if you're turning all of the self-proclaimed

left-wing people into

spineless jellyfish, and

if you are categorizing having

a spine and collective discipline

and solidarity and selfless collectivity if you're identifying things like this and coding them as fascistic you know with like starship troopers and hollywood's media and you know star wars whatever then you have a situation where only the right wing is allowed to be militant and strong

and powerful and the left wing has to be weak and yeah, I'm going to say it effeminate, not

manly, not masculine, and they have to be like, you know, they have to be passive.

That's the perfect scenario for the state and the ruling class

because it takes away from the revolutionary ideology

the revolutionary actuality.

It takes away.

They keep the revolutionary pretensions ideologically and theoretically,

but the muscle behind it is given away to the right wing.

Communism shouldn't be effeminate, is what you're saying uh it's not just that it shouldn't be it's that it can't be and has never been in history

or women effeminate um you know i'm gonna go out on a limb and say that communist uh empowerment of women

was opening women up to roles and duties that were beforehand typically masculine.

I quoted or associated with only masculinity, men.

But the reverse was never true.

It never opened up feminine pursuits to men.

Communism has never done that.

It's allowed women to be feminine, sure, to continue to be feminine, but it's never

opened the door for women to start acting in federalities.

So why do you always harp on the past so much?

Why can't we go in the future?

Well, the reason I'm focusing on the past so much. Why can't we go in the future? Well, the reason I'm focusing on the past is because I don't appreciate us being labeled as right wing and all this kind of stuff when we're just in continuity with what has been the norm for communists since forever.

If you have an argument

as to why

we should

talk... But Marxism is an evolving theory.

Yeah, no, no, I understand that, but you also

need to present the rationality of how

in tandem with the development of history

and the productive forces

that

for some reason we should

revise our

view on this matter.

I haven't ever seen a convincing argument on that front.

Yeah, I mean, I just feel like your party should try to be more open to liberal people.

I mean, I'm not, I don't, we don't test people like people who are in our party, you know, may sound and not very... We don't...

You know, I think this is...

I take issue with this idea

that we, like, have these rigid boxes

and identities we impose on people

because we don't.

We don't really, like, create definitions

and, like, impose these rigid standards. We just kind of see it more as a common sense thing.

And, you know, if people, we don't, we cut people slack.

We don't tell people that they have to sound a certain way or talk a certain way.

That's just aesthetics nonsense, right?

We care about the content, the meat and potatoes.

And if people can act as disciplined soldiers in the army, if they can act as comrades, if they can

get work done, if they can, you know, prove that they have the discipline to, you know, follow collective initiatives.

If they can just prove that they are able to competently, you know, fulfill goals, you know, we don't really care about the culture aspect that much it's just that we've made the observation that oftentimes there are cultural characteristics associated with certain you, certain behavioral propensities.

Now, we could be wrong about that.

You know, we could be presented with exceptional cases that would force us to revise our views.

So it's not a dogma on our part.

But us

having this kind of reasonable, pragmatic

sensibility and

intuition is not,

I don't think it's fair to

call that tailism. I think it's just

practical knowledge

that we have, to be honest. I don't believe that we have to be honest

I don't believe that we should tell

liberals either if that's not already

clear

well I mean

look

we are not interested

in cultural ideologies.

We don't think culture has anything to do with the full...

What about the cultural revolution in China?

Did you support that?

Curious.

Yeah, but I'll tell you why, actually.

So the cultural revolution in China had...

It was double-sided, right? On the one hand, there's the superficial reading, which is that it was this vain attempt to purify all culture. And by the way, the cultural revolution in China was not liberal

in any capacity.

It tried to eradicate

all kinds of

expression of culture that were not

that did not

submit to the collectivistic

discipline of the revolutionary idea.

Conservative culture, right?

I mean, destroy the four old, or whatever it was called?

That was in the beginning, and that had to do with a lot of old statues and things.

But when it came to sexuality, it was profoundly far more conservative

than even the four olds from the past. It was to the point where if we're not even talking

about sexual deviancy, that was very much persecuted in the cultural

revolution. But even normal

displays of sexual affection between

men and women were persecuted

at some points and in certain instances.

So the cultural

revolution was profoundly

conservative in many ways, and even xenophobic.

For example, I remember reading about how

classical music in some instances

was denounced and opposed for being

foreign and

and both,wa. And both, really.

And so,

um,

so,

uh,

you know,

the attacks against feudal culture were not attacked against,

uh,

you know,

um,

anything to do with sexuality.

If anything, it was in the opposite direction.

Do you believe the United States should have a cultural revolution in the future?

We already are...

So here's... I was going to tell you my view on the cultural revolution and how it was twofold.

So the cultural revolution had a lot to do with an increasingly artificial, the rise of the mass production, or less of our society of all the things

that inform us about you know our habits in society our values in society

uh... you know with the rise of consumerism in the united states this is

abundantly clear of almost every aspect of you know

culture is being mass manufactured

but also in China with the changes in relations of production brought about by the construction of socialism

the awareness

of how much subjective

discretion is there

when it comes to the production of

light consumer goods

let's call it that, right? Cultural objects, that became

acutely felt, right? So the cultural revolution seized upon that as an opportunity to denounce

to to indirectly

first directly and indirectly

frankly

symptoms that were being felt at this level

of you know

a kind of

a kind of,

a kind of,

um,

emergence,

uh,

from the ranks of the Soviet,

uh, technical specialists and other kind of bureaucrats,

Soviet trains technical specialists and bureaucrats.

This new kind of, umical, ideologically indifferent technical intelligentsia, which kind of had a cynical regard for the subjective element when it came to the construction of socialism in terms of belief,

in terms of genuine belief, in terms of, you know, the genuine revolutionary idea, right?

And the significance of that, it was twofoldfold on the one hand obviously attempting to define culture subjectively ideologically it's completely against materialism and that was vain right that, by the way. Mao acknowledged it failed.

But on the other hand,

this new opportunity to basically search for the true revolutionary essence,

which eventually created this kind of criticism of the party bureaucracy, empowering ordinary peasant masses who were newly educated in the cities to have a subjectivity, to have a voice to be recognized that profoundly animated and defined

china's political trajectory on the basis of an involvement with the chinese masses never before has the Chinese subjectivity been awakened.

Before the Cultural Revolution, you had a kind of Soviet-trained technical intelligentsia ruling over millions and millions of Chinese peasants.

Without necessarily necessarily without their

active participation. So even after the cultural revolution, the progressive effect it had was this empowerment of the voices of chinese masses their feelings

their sentiments their whims their subjectivity still to this day is a fundamental factor of

governance for the communist party what they call it promoting the overall happiness of the Chinese people, something like that.

So, you know, it's twofold. So should we have a cultural revolution? Well, here's the thing. We did have our own farcical, and we are having our own farcical version of it but it's a

farcical version it's a one that is uh it's as much of a cultural revolution as hitler

implemented socialism so it's a completely farcical kind of inauthentic mimicry of an original revolutionary thing that has been warped by the

degeneration of capitalism and neoliberalism and unlike china there's there doesn't seem to be a way out for us.

We are descending into a spiral of insanity and subjectivism,

but we don't have a kind of wise Deng Xiaoping or even Mao himself

to basically ascribe this process

with any kind of goal,

with any kind of idea,

with any kind of lofty aspirations.

You know,

China's culture revolution, at least,

however destructive it was,

the aspiration was like, you know, the rise of the whole Chinese masses, you know, but the one that's happening under neoliberalism today is incredibly divisive with respect to any kind of popular sovereignty.

It's not, it's, it's preventing that, it's dividing people, it's not allowing for any kind of recognition of the whole people as a subject in any capacity.

So, um, so, uh, we don't need to have a cultural revolution. All we need to do is, uh, is learn from Deng Xiaoping and learn how to recover from the the cultural

implications of

a transition into an

information-based society

which had

happened under capitalist

neoliberalism which produced a disastrous cultural environment.

And we have to learn how to recover from that.

And to learn how to recover from that means to adopt a revolutionary outlook that on a mass scale, which is unprecedented, which is not the cultural revolution in China, but is more like, you know, a popularization of Deng Xiaoping thought, if you will, kind of sobering up and acknowledging our collective responsibilities, that we're facing environmental catastrophes, we're facing the prospect of world wars. We're facing the prospect of, you know, societal decay, industrial infrastructure decaying and all these kind of problems. And we need to have this kind of sobering up where not

becoming immersed in ideological enthusiasm but more kind of having more of a sense of the real, like the real of, you know, the objective, this ruthlessly objective

hurricanes that will come and devastate us and wipe us out. They don't care about our ideas.

They don't care about our subjectivity. We have to acquire a quote-unquote

subjectivity that is responsive to that, that is humble before these facts. So, you know, that's my

view on, you know, do we need a cultural revolution? I don't think so. I think we need

a revolution

at the level of

the objective, not the subjective.

Which is just to say, we have to submit

and respond to objective

tasks, not invent subjective have to submit and respond to objective tasks

not invent

subjective problems from scratch

all right

any more

questions for me

well I just want you to be honest.

After having this conversation, what is your objection to our party still?

Because, you know, clearly you've been exposed to a range of views by people on Twitter who you disagree with.

But what if I told you that there's people in our party who probably share your

cultural views and, you know, they're not ostracized? Well, my

question would be, are they represented in their leadership in some

capacity?

It depends on what you mean by that,

but because, for example, the leadership

isn't finalized yet. We're still in the

process of forming leadership.

But let me ask you a question. Are you able to tolerate people who are culturally conservative, even religiously conservative? Could you tolerate and coexist with them in a party?

Yeah. Then there would literally be no issue.

The problem

are people who like

draw these,

create these discursive barriers

and say,

no,

this person's a fascist

and they,

you know,

they're trying to nail them

on the cross of an extreme,

you know,

position they don't even have just because they, you know, happen to have conservative views on things. So honestly, if you could just be able to coexist and work alongside people who differ from you when it comes to their cultural views, there wouldn't be an issue

straight up.

Yeah, I mean, I just have to see what happens with the party.

You know, like, it's so, how long has the party been, like three months or something?

Three months, but you have to admit, I mean, it's probably not easy doing what we've done so far in so little time.

I mean, would you admit that or no?

I mean, it's probably not an easy thing to do what we've already done.

I'm impressed with the growth in all these things.

It's not just growth.

It's the ability for, you know, I mean, look what chapters are doing.

We're not ordering every, we're not even ordering this stuff. They're just

doing it and taking the initiative and

nobody's

holding up signs, you know,

trying to protest

culture stuff. People are

trying to help their neighbors out. People are trying to help their neighbors out.

People are trying to

create organization and

respond to the most objective issues.

We're really objective problems,

you know, hurricane relief, things like that.

Really, my only problem that would

ever be with your party would just be the leadership

and, you know, and I just

have to wait and see, like, if...

What's the issue with the leadership? Be more specific.

Me, what's the issue?

To some capacity, I would say, yeah.

I mean, I just don't feel like it seems like you just push people

away like with your language you know with the way you do with opposition and uh i don't think you're

aware but i have to go out of my way to encourage opposition in the party, because...

Is there a lot of opposition in the party?

There isn't, but that doesn't mean it's not allowed.

It is. It's literally in our Constitution.

It's just that... Constitution. It's just that

it's not my fault that people

at the convention unanimously voted

to ratify our Constitution and

program. Doesn't that kind of

doesn't that show something though,

kind of? I mean... I think it shows

a tremendous degree of unity frankly yeah yeah among

like your people no these are not all my people these were people that came from all over and

okay if someone you know is hiding their views we would be very disappointed about that because...

I feel like you've probably poured from socially conservative people and all the other parties and they've kind of...

Again, it's like, why are you constantly focused on the culturally liberal

conservative bullshit?

I don't want to

let me make this more

understandable to you. We are all

just straight up normal people.

I went to the

after parties, a few of them.

People are literally just like having beers, like, you know, eating pizza, whatever,

just chilling, talking, telling jokes, being funny.

I mean, maybe people are telling jokes that might offend you.

They're too politically incorrect.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I can't say.

But, like, there's no, like, pressure to, like, we're not.

Nobody's, like, I don't know what the issue is.

Like, nobody is making a problem of anything.

I've already said what my issue would be.

It would be with the leadership.

But the leadership isn't the leadership isn't like that either.

We're all chill too.

No, no, that's fine.

It's fine that you're chill and all that.

I'm just saying that I don't want the leadership to just be all socially conservative guys.

It's going to be an agenda, obviously, if that happens.

Wouldn't you say?

But Midwest, I mean, I don't know.

So we would have to have affirmative action for people who, like, have socially liberal views.

It doesn't make any sense.

I mean, why are liberal-minded people not interested in joining your party?

I, look, I want to be real with you, Loon.

Let me put it this way.

Maybe this will make sense.

Do you think people are really liberal in a state of war?

What do you feel like?

What was Mao's position on

on that

on the United Front

and all these things

uh

Mao was definitely not socially liberal

all right I'll tell you that

definitely

for the time though

he probably would

no he wasn't I think this is also a big no for the time he he probably no he wasn't no he wasn't i think this is also a big

no the time no no the idea the idea that there's like

a there's like a there's all relative to the time that there's like an arrow of

progress that goes up in a direction with respect to the evolution of

uh cultural tolerance, right?

Is a neoliberal idea

because the idea is that the more

time passes, the more individual

self-expression culturally is

tolerated. And that's not true.

So cultural tolerance is a neoliberal thing?

How does that make sense?

When it's individualistic, yes.

If we're talking about the evolution of culture at a collective level, it has to be compatible

with the reproduction of the collective existence.

And it doesn't make a whole lot of sense that the proliferation of LGBT ideas would be considered progressive by communists,

because it's only progressive with respect to freedom for the individual.

It doesn't have anything

to do with the determination of the collective

which has to actually reproduce

itself through... So would you

consider the rank and file of your party?

Are they

pretty much anti-trans, all these

things? Would you say? Not, I mean, all these things, would you say?

Not, I mean, look, we were, I was at the after party and I conversed with everyone and I, the topic was never brought up.

That's the issue. That's why it's so difficult to respond. It's like the topic was never even brought up.

Kyle, did you ever hear it being brought up or no?

Yeah, but when it is brought up, it seems to be a big issue for you guys, though.

When it's brought up, the topic is quickly changed because why do we want to dwell in this naval gazing topic?

It's very weird.

It's strange.

No, no, I imagine if someone is like bringing up a topic, like, oh, my belly button is out

instead of in. It's like, uh, okay.

So it doesn't have anything to do with anything, but okay.

Yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't. It really doesn't have anything to do with anything but okay yeah it doesn't it doesn't it really doesn't it's not in the CPU does have

something no it doesn't nobody

unless you make it a problem yourself

someone has speak for you and why don't you talk

huh I am talking I say that nobody gives a fuck self. Some men has speak for you and why don't you talk? Huh?

I am talking.

I say that nobody gives a fuck.

No one gives a fuck about it.

Nobody gives a fuck.

About trans shit.

Nobody cares.

Yeah, it wasn't even brought up once

at the convention.

In your party or are you mean in general?

Like at the convention, it wasn't brought up one time.

At the party level, I've never heard it.

Yes, but I'm speaking of

the people that you want to

gain support from, the masses, right?

If someone is really focused

on transgenderism one way or the other, we don't want them in our party. One way or the other. I've conducted like 300 plus interviews of onboarding for members and it's really a reg flag

whenever it comes up. But you don't want

trans people to be marginalizing your party

it'll feel uncomfortable in some...

I mean, nobody's...

Nobody is. You're just

panic-mongering about something that doesn't exist.

Because you barely have any fucking trans people

in the party.

Who fucking cares?

I care.

I care.

A lot of people care.

Why do you care?

Transgenders are less than

1% of the population in America.

Yeah, but the people that support them

are a large percent of the... Why

does our party need to have

a lot of transgender? Why is that

necessary? It doesn't.

People that support trans people, you do need

those people in your... What does it mean to support trans

people? What does it even mean?

What does it even mean? What does it even mean?

You don't want? I don't, we don't, I, I personally, we haven't, we haven't, we

technically haven't issued an official position, but I'm going to share my view on it,

frankly, and I don't think it's going to be contentious in our party.

We don't want, we should leave the children alone, period. We don't want we leave the children

alone period. We don't believe in

transgender. That has nothing

that has nothing to do. So otherwise it's

it's legal to be transgender in the U.S.

and you're allowed to and so

what's the contention here? Where is the contention

coming from?

You want to have mass support from both liberals.

You're saying we don't have enough support from people who support

from people who support transgender's.

Yes.

What do you mean that they support?

What does that mean to support them

I mean there are excesses to the

LGBTQ

no no I'm asking you like it depends on what we're talking about

like what does it mean to support

your because Lou and you

which is why you're not understanding.

The people I think you have in mind are the people who cancel others for being transphobic for not caring about trans issues.

And that's the issue.

Of course we can.

I don't care if you don't care about them,

but it would depend on the language that you use that.

All right, you know what?

I'll kind of go on a more,

I'll be easier for you,

just so you don't look totally crazy.

I think we would not tolerate someone

who brings like a trans flag

Right Kyle? I wouldn't tolerate that

Yeah, I wouldn't tolerate that shit

No, we wouldn't

Why not?

Because we have the red flag

It's not that fucking important

And if that's your focus

Then go to it's not important Then why would you care? If it's your focus then go to you

If it's not important then why would you care? If it's not important

Then why would you care? Because you are forwarding

a individualist fucking liberty

Over the class struggle

And I just don't give a shit about I don't respect

You're flying a flag based

On your individualism

and it's not the red flag either

by the way so it's like of course we don't

want that the R flag is the red flag

none of you guys have flown like a

Also here's the issue loon

What the issue is

is like

I'm going to pretend I didn't hear a comparison between the Palestinian flag

and the transgender flag but anyway look

the issue is it's like do we have trans advocacy in our party

no because what trans advocacy means is like,

everyone stop and think about my genitals,

and we don't tolerate that.

We don't.

I'm not saying for you to fucking do that.

I'm just saying,

but that's all it amounts to in practice.

No, parents can go out from supporting your party.

Then you won't just have

fucking socially conservative. What you're saying is we need to pay tribute to them. Like,

they're the great con and we have to give them to tribute. That's what it means, objectively.

Objectively, that's what it means. It means a tributary system where we have to pay tribute to them and we're not going to do that you don't turn people off it's not that hard dude i mean dude the only you want to be you want to be a party for americans right not just like but the only people that are offended and and and the people that you're talking

about are literally crazy they're literally a tiny minority they're even more marginal than we

are as a party and they're not they're mentally ill and they regularly threaten to kill us

yeah but they yeah they might be marginal now,

but if your party growth and support,

then you'll probably have this,

you know,

the same problem,

but on a larger scale.

No,

we won't because the majority of Americans

see those people as bad shit insane.

What people? The people that you're talking about who like are turned off by our party because like uh we're not trans inclusive

enough or whatever like those people are insane and you think that's a minority okay i think

i i don't think i know well you know what Loon here's the tragedy and I wish I brought this up earlier

It's not even necessarily that they're a minority that is literally the base of fascism now

Those are the people that support the azov batt. Those are the people that support the

Azov Battalion. Those are

the people that are fanatically supportive

and working at Raytheon.

And only 1% of them

are identifying

as anti-imperialist

MLs who support China.

How many conservatives identify as anti-imperialists and all these other things?

Quite a few, actually.

The sad thing, quite a few liberals also.

No, no, no, loon.

Loon.

When it comes to red versus blue, here's how it works.

Yes, liberals are more sensitive about the humanitarian crisis in Gaza.

I will give you that.

But they frame it in terms of humanitarianism.

Among liberals,

supporting Hamas is non-existent. They don't support Hamas.

Is there a pipeline, potentially,

that could lead people to radicalize?

So when it comes to people...

When it comes to people that are

like your typical American leftist, when they end up supporting Hamas and there's that pipeline, they end up like Cala Walsh and they're called red-brown fascist and they're lumped in with the rest of us.

Even if they have socially liberal views, it doesn't matter.

They're still categorized,

just like how me and Kyle are.

In any case,

um,

uh,

when it comes to the red versus blue bulk, I will tell you this.

Red in terms of like,

uh,

conservatives or Republican, Maga, let's just say much more skeptical of u.s military interventions than blue is right now you cut off a little bit what you say they are much

more skeptical of u.S. military, foreign

interventions in general.

Maybe. No, not they.

100% are. 100%

much more. That could change. Granted, that could change.

Let's say, Trump, like, let's say Trump,

no, no, you don't need data.

You just need experience

in the real world, loon.

Let's be frank.

Don't be honest on it.

Give me something.

Give me something.

I don't know what,

let's pull on the Ukraine war and see what they're.

Well, yeah, let's not even,

let's just say,

who and see what... Well, yeah, let's not even... Let's just say, who is the candidate

that you think in any capacity

will change ship

the course of the state

on Ukraine?

Kyle, I'll be better.

Loon, how did Donald Trump

who killed Soleimani,

become popular among the Shia Muslims in Dearborn, Michigan?

I don't know.

You don't know?

Could it have anything to do with the perception among them that he is more anti-war than

Kamala is because that's really what it is you believe that he's it more anti-war than Kamala

oh me personally I'm much more skeptical obviously, you know, I don't know that for certain.

I know his rhetoric is.

I know that the movement surrounding him is.

It seems that he might want to end the war in Ukraine, right?

That's the main reason why you're sayingorically, he's saying that, but

like, you know, I don't know about Trump.

I just know the movement and the sentiment.

I mean, it sounds like, to me, it sounds like

he wants to go to war with, like, Iran or, like,

China. Again, it's unpredictable.

It's unpredictable. But in any case,

yeah, when it comes to,

all I'm trying to say is that

as a mass, in terms of the masses,

the people that are really passionate

about transgender issues,

those people are more likely to support Raytheon, more likely to support imperialism as a masses. One percent of them may be like you, right? But 99% are Vosch destiny viewers

who believe in the Ukraine narratives

and believe that Taiwan should be independent

and all these kind of stuff.

I wouldn't say that most people even watch Destiny or Vos.

No, no, they don't, but

they have the similar ideology of

like NATO-Nazism, pro-NATO, pro-EU.

So do a lot of Republicans, I would say, but okay.

Yeah, they're called the Lincoln Republicans

and they're extremely anti-Trump right now.

I wouldn't say MAGA supporters

right now are particularly pro-NATO.

Definitely would not get that impression.

Again, I'm not saying this can't change if Trump wins.

Trump might win Tuesday and become an extreme warmonger,

and everyone's going to rally behind it.

We don't know.

But all I could say is that, you know, the movement's origins were on the basis of an extreme skepticism to you know U.S. interventionism

abroad in general.

The current trajectory

is already war with Iran

and China and that's because

you know

all of the last four years administration, which, you know, Kamala Harris was a part of.

And the only individual who's running is beyond that

is Donald Trump who's a viable

candidacy for winning

and those are the people that you're saying all the social

conservatives or whatever and they're not necessarily

anti-war or whatever

but he's the only one

toning down any type of rhetoric in that way and presenting any sort of wild card in that equation.

I think the issue is it's like, look, neoliberalism is reactionary and it is fascistic.

And one of the roles we have on the U.S. left is really painfully forcing people to painfully

swallow the pill that cultural neoliberalism, which is based on individualism, is not actually progressive in the Marxist sense. It's actually deeply reactionary and deeply regressive.

So which ideology would you say is more individualistic, would you say, a conservative movement or a liberal movement?

Depending on what boxes we're putting around those things,

we're just going to go very vaguely.

I'd say the conservatives are much more collectivistic

just because they have a sense of like you know that the individuals

what about libertarians like right libertarian people well again we're talking about cultural values

we're not talking about political individualism or political, you know, collectivism.

I mean, I feel like it would define how, it would depend on how we define individualism, right?

Yeah, but I think neoliberal individualism is not necessarily based on individual sovereignty, which is where libertarians think they're coming from. It's based on individual consumer discretion. It's the individualism of desires. It's the individualism of choices made at the level of consumption

and that is something that is like reified into an ideal or i don't want to use the pseudo intellectual

word reified that is something that's turned into like an ideology that's the supreme social value and uh i reject

that i'm not necessarily i'm against individuals choosing what they want to consume i reject

elevating that as the supreme principle that should govern a society what is your opinion of individualism

within like a communist country would you say there is none there's no individualism in a

communist country in communist countries individuals obviously exist

but individuality is not elevated into a social principle ever it's you're just an individual and no one

cares it's not something anyone else has to care about. Hmm.

Yeah, I mean, it would depend.

All right, well, we have some other speakers who have requested.

You want me to move on,

Haas? Yeah. All right.

See you. Nice chatting.

Yep. All right.

All right. So one of them just ran away as soon as I said that,

but maybe they'll come back.

It was looking interesting.

They were laughing a lot.

Is commerce? Is Comrade Confucius requesting? Because everyone keeps saying to bring him on.

No.

He's not requesting, guys. Can you stop?

Pravda.

Is that the person?

That's one of them.

Go ahead.

Yeah.

What's up?

What's up?

Man, I feel like what? up? What's up? Man, I feel like

what

you said about sectarianism

one, I feel like

it's very hypocritical, very,

very hypocritical because

for months, years,

there's this propaganda campaign.

You've been joining Ted Cruz,

the rest of the political class

and talking shit about the PSL

and really the PSL.

And it's interesting because even

last year,

after all this shit you guys were talking,

I saw so many selfies at the

at the rally organized by

you know, these same left forces that you guys

are constantly related. I'll go ahead

and make an assurance to you.

All right.

Division with respect to working with the PSL, even though we don't regard them as a Marxist

Leninist party, is one-sided.

We have no problem collaborating with the PSL.

It's on their end. They're the ones who have a problem with us.

And even if the leadership of the PSL were wise and said, yeah, these ACP guys, you know, they're

well connected, they're good guys, we should collaborate. The rank and file, who are a bunch of liberals.

A lot of them.

All it takes is 5% radlibs to ruin an organization.

You know that.

So those ones will ruin it and have a big hissy fit and destroy the PSL from within.

That's why the leadership can never associate with us.

But frankly, if we criticize the PSL,

it's because there's a perception that they are slandering us internationally

and attempting to destroy our reputation.

But if they're not doing

that, we know they are though, but if they're

willing to stop doing that and if they want to unite

with us against imperialism,

we are totally

fine with that and we have no problem with that.

So it's one-sided.

Real? I don't think it's one-sided. I don't think it's one-sided, but I mean, I respect that.

I mean, go tell them. Go communicate that to them. We don't even have lines

of communication open with them.

So, you know, we don't, we don't, we really don't have don't have beef i mean frankly the beef has to do with

the international some of the international stuff going on but uh we don't have um we don't have

grudges i should rather say we're not you know we're not we't take it personal. So if you want to go communicate to them that we can collaborate with them in some respects and in some capacity, go do it. I mean, frankly, we wish left-wing forces would unite with us against the growing neo-Nazi threat instead of attacking us, so we're being attacked from both sides.

But such is the situation.

But I feel like that's the case throughout the whole, as you say, Western left.

And I mean, there's different tiers.

I mean, you talked about like there's the Western left that's actually pro-imperialism, anti-China, and pro-everything the State Department says, even though it's so radical.

But there are ones who I think are more genuine forces, and I think that that is an issue.

And a lot of times I think it's miscommunication and misunderstanding.

Like we said, you know, we feel like it's one-sided.

If it's not, that would be great news.

But, you know, we're not going to hold our breath.

Well, to be completely, to be completely frank, we know that they've made moves against this internationally i don't even know why we have to sugarcoat this and uh we haven't retaliated in any way because we don't see it as productive and we just kind of see grand tics is childish you're talking about you guys talk about the PSO all the time on this site.

What's his name, Eddie?

What does that have to do with what I just said?

Hold on.

It's because of what they've done to us.

So we're just, if Eddie is saying something on X, that's different, but we're

not making moves against them internationally.

That's not what we're doing.

Real. Maybe that's just a, maybe

I don't know, you know. Yeah, I mean,

we really can't get into the specifics of this,

but that's the case.

But to this, the second point the case. But to this second

point about the liberalism

thing, I'd

see where you guys are coming from

and I don't think

at first I kind of

brought into the view that you guys were reactionaries.

I don't think that's the case, but I think that there is some differences.

Because to the point that you were making, right?

So you say, you know, for example, the USSR, they were against even

like jazz music and the

you know, decadence. But it

wasn't because of the liberalism in and

of itself. It was because it was

coming from the imperialist

as an attack, right? So

there's no way to then go

and say, oh, I'm going to go against

that and go, I'm a mega communes.

I'm pro-America, right?

In trying to fight this quote-unquote

because there's also

a fascistic side to the imperial

system. There's worked

with brutal dictators all over, and has

had no problem being illiberal, right?

I mean, even if you look at how

they use Christianity throughout the third

world, throughout Africa, you see in Uganda.

I mean, look, liberal is

a word that's muddied very much.

I use the word neoliberal a lot because of that.

Because in Stalin's last speech,

aspects of liberalism, real liberalism historically,

such as the right of self-determination,

you know, constitutional liberties, civil liberties, things like that, freedom of assembly,

whatever.

Stalin said that actually communists need to pick up the banner to defend those things, right?

And so that's not really the problem.

The problem has more to do with the USSR and the post-war period didn't necessarily oppose the cultural decadence of the West because it regarded that

decadence as liberal. It actually

regarded the decadence as proto-fascistic.

The ML view implicitly, and sometimes

I think explicitly, I'd have to

search where, though.

They regarded the descent into

hyper-individualistic,

you know,

ultra-liberal, you know, whatever.

They regarded that as kind of actually

the same as fascism. They categorized it in the same ways

fascism in the thirties culturally was associated with vanity was associated with like

you know uh...

the individual attempting to defy the laws of nature and defy the laws of history and whatever

and you know the soviets perceived in the post-war period with the rise of uh you know american hyper liberal

culture they they saw that

as actually

just as much

fascistic.

So what you're

talking about

as illiberalism

is not the

I think there's

two kinds of

illiberalism,

right?

There's illiberalism

which is a liberal hypocrisy right it's still liberal it's coming from

liberalism it's coming from the bourgeoisie and it's maintaining the aspect but it's a mutation it's a

mutation that is kind of fascistic then there's illiberalism

which is based in collectivism and collect and and and uh collectivism is not necessarily about fascist tyranny.

Collectivism can often be an organic collectivism.

It could reflect civilization, a culture with social values or something,

like in Palestine or Lebanon or something.

So that would be a form of illiberal or Russia today right that would be a form of illiberalism which is just based

in a positive collectivism but illiberalism that's purely based in the negation of

liberal freedoms such as fascism, but doesn't have a positive collective aspect, that is a mutation of liberalism itself. So I think that's the distinction. But even the, I mean, it's's interesting that's a good point

but I feel like

the imperialist will even use

the positive liberalism

as a weapon and you could see this in multiple

aspects

the positive collectivism

you mean

right yes

like you see even with the

with the civil rights movement

in the conclusion Brown v. V. Vort of Ed

they talk about how

you know they're in this position

as an ascending empire and how it's a

blemish and actually I found that recently

Eisenhower released a memo

10 years earlier

telling them that they would need to use that

as a weapon to garner. I think positive

collectivism in this sense is something

I'm referring to in terms of cultural values.

So it basically how people

associate with each other, how people, you know, what manners people have, what kinds of protocols of honor and respect are in place that govern relationships within society uh you know how individuals put the interest

of the collective first such as the family you know um you can't just do whatever you want you have to

listen to your parents people from but... But I feel like, if

anything, you know, you said that

the conservatives have that value.

And I guess I see what you're saying.

More so. In the way that Americans see it.

But I would actually say historically, obviously, the anti-imperialists

are the ones who have had courage, who have had

discipline, who have had discipline,

who have been able to have to protect the revolutions.

I agree with that.

It's always been the revolutionaries that have defended people's honor.

It's always the imperialists and the right wing that's attacked people's honor historically.

It's just what I've been trying to say here is that neoliberalism has deceived people into thinking,

you know,

in terms of opposites,

honestly,

with reality.

And that's kind of the issue with the U.S.

You're talking about how you're fucking,

it's white privilege to not vote for Kamala

and not endorse a fucking...

Right, right.

It's just like nonsense.

It's a complete inversion of

what everything used to mean,

you know,

and that's the issue.

Word. I mean, I guess

I agree with you on a lot of this, to be honest.

Yeah, listen, man, I know who you are, your

comrade shack, right? Listen.

Yeah, yeah. No, Elon, Elon Bandmother.

Yeah, yeah, it's all right.

It's all right.

Listen, you know, in any case, communicate to the leadership if you can or whoever you know, just tell them, you know, and see what they say because I'm telling you, I'm communicating

to you that it's, you know, on our end

we have no interest in going to

war with PSL. We're stuck

going to war with neo-Nazis and fascists

and neoliberalism.

So we don't have to be the same party as PSL, but, you know, we don't have to be at war, you know, like there's a million factions in the Palestinian resistance. They don't agree with each other on ideology,

but they can put aside their differences for a greater

cause. So, as many

people who understand that as possible,

we're willing to work with, frankly.

I'm a man. shout out to you.

Yep. All right. See you later, man.

I'm going to bring on one other person or Kyle.

Is there any other people or not?

Yeah, there's two, actually.

Not though what's going on. Anyone else?

Yes.

Who is it uh aurora hammer and sickle they them cat boy barrel all right uh bring that up and we will have that as the last speaker for the night. All right.

Sounds good.

So... your uh there you go so um

um

the reason I heard about your party was because I live

in the rural south

in the United States.

And I saw that you guys were helping during Hurricane Helene.

I appreciate that you guys help the communities,

and it's so great that you guys did that.

But I just think that you guys did that. But I just think

that you guys should

not alienate your workers.

What is your age?

My age?

Yeah.

I don't know what that has to do with anything.

Yeah, I'm just asking, though.

I'm 30 years old.

All right.

So who are we alienating?

I feel like your rhetoric could alienate the LGBT people who are also anti-imperialists and anti-capitalist as well.

Well, I think if they prioritize those things then they would probably put their feelings aside about

the sexuality and focus on what matters oh yeah i think we could i think we could but can you not alienate them though

i mean we care about results and we care about you know what people do we don't really care about

what they do in service of the party's goals We don't really care about what they do

in service of the party's goals.

We don't really care about people's private

stuff.

Well, see,

what do you mean by private parts?

I mean it literally. We don't. We don't. I mean, it literally.

We don't, we don't, I don't,

don't care about people.

We're saying, let's look at our private

parts. I think that's a gross

misrepresentation. I don't know what they are saying.

I mean, if they're trying to say we need to

correct, you don't know

at all. Well, I

don't know if they were... Correct. You don't know

at all. Right. For example, you go

by they, them. So if you were at our convention

and someone, like, referred to you

as a he or whatever, and

like, you know, you got upset about that i think that would

not be conducive to an environment of comradeship or solidarity i think that would be very

very alienate i think that would be extremely alienate i think that would be very alienating

um behavior on your part

and you know

that's kind of where the differences come from

I think

I agree that that could alienate

them

right so like what

what else we don't want to have a culture we have to like artificially use pronouns out of nowhere i mean

you know we're not going to go out of our way to try and abuse people who are clearly trying to

present in a certain way.

I'm not going to personally, like, be like, yo to their face.

Like, yo, you're a man.

I mean, like, because that would be abusive.

But I don't know what else you want from us, frankly.

There's nothing I really want.

I just would like it if you guys would just, like,

stop the rhetoric that you guys do on

Twitter.

I think the issue is this.

This is why it's so unfair.

Because, like, these people, and when I say these people, I'm talking about liberal leftists who are overwhelmingly from these communities. They go after us so viciously and so personally. And they like, they use fucking

anything at their disposal

when it comes to that. They fucking go at

us with whatever, right?

And we're not allowed

to like talk about the elephant

in the room to humble them?

No, they don't them? If they don't

want us, if they don't want us using

the... Forget me, I'm chairman of the

party, so I'm above the pettiness now.

But if you don't want our soldiers

using that rhetoric,

stop going after

them. Stop going after our party

you know

be

be honorable and honest

and decent

otherwise if you don't want the

ugliness don't bring it on yourselves

you know

frankly

okay yourselves, you know, frankly.

Okay.

Um, what how do we, um, not we, but how do you do about your party members who are also doing the rhetoric like that?

Like doing anti-LGB-Gity things like that.

Do you not think that you as a chairman to do something about it?

No, because I've only ever seen it

be done defensively.

I've never seen it be done offensively.

Just out of nowhere for no reason.

Okay.

Well, just want to say,

I appreciate your party

and I think that your party is very good

I'm just telling you man we're at war and you know when war

is ugly you're used by any and all means

to demoralize and attack the enemy

and if oh yeah

yeah

if our soldiers

our soldiers got to defend themselves, and they have to defend the party, too, you know.

And I don't see my soldiers behave dishonorably.

If I do, I correct them and I check them.

But I don't often see them behave that way.

Okay. Okay.

Anyways, I just want to say

I have no

beef of your party. I think your party could be good.

I think under this capitalist system that we live under,

we're all competing against each other.

And I don't want to say that I know everything about Marxism.

All right.

That was going on for quite a while.

Kyle,

yeah,

I think that's going to conclude it.

All right.

In any case,

we're done.

And that's that.

Sounds good.

All right.

All right.

All right, guys.

I liked today's stream because I made a lot of money.

Also, it was good content.

It was good content.

So, you know, a daylight savings.

It's fucking 2 a.m. right now, technically. Reflections on the discussions.

This is getting quite exhausting, actually.

Not the reflections, but the discussions quite exhausting um you know who i think is correct

i think ray p is correct about the seed oils thing.

I think they're onto something with the seed oils.

Because I was thinking, why do I feel so bloated?

And like, why do I feel like I'm not eating, but I'm still not losing weight?

And then I kind of tried to experiment yesterday with the seed oil thing and the bio-energetics,

just like half-sugar in between and keep it along.

And I'm like, I feel like it's working.

I feel like it's like real.

The whole Pufa thing. Just don't have poofa and you could be fine and um poofas and uh it's not even about the food. It's about the, like, stuff. It's about the poofas. You can have tasty food, but just don't have the poofas

um

you can have sugar

um

RIP Uber Eudes you guys I like I said Uber eats whatever R.P. Uber.

Guys, like I said, Uber eats, whatever.

I get fucking shitty meal prep.

I fucking eat like a prisoner, right?

But there's nothing tasty in store for me tonight.

What do I have?

I have, uh, all right, I have juice boxes.

I do have them from Costco.

And that's something I...

I'm not proud of.

But they're 35 calories, and they...

Um... They just... when I'm thirsty you know just you know it's just like so what so what

fucking sue me have we talked about this ethnocacerism thing in Peru

I don't know if I'm allowed to talk about it

I have very strong feelings about it

but that goddamn flag very strong feelings about it.

But that goddamn flag.

Just please change that flag.

That flag is really bad optics.

If they change that flag so much,

it'd make my job a lot easier.

But SSNP and the Peruvian guys, you guys get your shit together, all right? What are you doing? The flags. But beyond the flags, uncanniness.

I don't know enough about them.

I'll say that.

I'll just go with the easy route and say I don't know enough.

But what I've read, all I'm going to say is that what I read, I really like.

I really like the idea of invading and annexing Chile and other parts. I really like these

ideas. I told you the most, didn't i tell you the most interesting politics

is going to come out of peru when once if you remember how i said the most interesting

politics in south america is going to come from peru and i told you, did I not tell you? Did I not tell you? You remember,

I did tell you this many times over the years. Peruvians are the only, they are the only

undomesticated people

they are

so based

they are so

um cool

and they are

very revolutionary

Peruvians

give no fucks and they have

they have balls

All right

Um

Peru is a very cool country

And I like

You know because it's so funny because Chile Chile, Chile cool country and I like

you know because it's so funny because Chile

Chile Chile Chile they're like

Oh Ayende and then Ayende got

cucked and then fucking the fascist

Pinotche and then neoliberalism

one and now you have fucking Boric

so it's this fake kind of existential dilemma, these Chileans.

Oh, what, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, just, and then fucking out of nowhere, here comes Peru to annex it.

And just, the Incan Empire just comes and fucking takes it.

Fuck Pinotche.

Fuck Boric.

Fuck everyone.

Fuck you.

Incan Empire.

I love that.

I love that idea so much. It's so poetically beautiful.

It's like they had this fake bullshit politics in Chile and then here comes the Incan Empire.

See, the dichotomy used to be, oh, Pinochet is the strongman dictator versus the peaceful

leftists.

And no, this is the fucking Incan Empire coming to eat.

Cannibal eat.

Pinocche, dig up his grave, and eat him.

Like, that's the strong men.

All right?

Anyway. like that's the strong men all right anyway um unfortunately the incans didn't do human sacrifice but i wish they did because boric is a great candidate for Incan human sacrifice.

Human sacrifice Boric.

It's like Star Wars.

And it's like, I'm going to say he's the cringiest shit ever.

It's like, it's like, uh, Borek is like the Jedi.

Dunes, what's up?

It's like, uh, Pinocche was like, um, it's like Pinocche is, uh, you know, like the Jedi and Borek is like another Jedi.

And then the Incan Empire is the freaking Sith coming back out of nowhere and taking everyone over.

Very cool.

Dunes, appreciate it bro um i like annexations today i like this idea of just...

Yeah, I'm against social democracy.

I'm against fascists, social fascists.

I support the revival of the Incan Empire

Just fucking do it

What America's gonna condemn it

Who gives a shit?

Human rights

Shut the fuck up bitch

Slam dunk them

Literally just fucking do it launch the missiles the whole world map needs to be

changed launch the missiles Peru if

they do this they should take over all of it

take over everything take over Brazil

fuck it why not

why not Still, fuck it. Why not? Why not?

Fucking Chile.

Stupid. You know what? Am I gonna insult? I'm not gonna do. I'm a chairman of the party. I can't do that.

Anyway, uh, neoliberalism must fall, not with ballots, but with Peruvian guns. Human sacrifice Lula next.

Yes.

Yes.

Hmm. it's got there's something so interesting about this it's got there's something so interesting about this it's like uh the whole there's this whole

hegemony of neoliberalism and fascism fascism fascist dictatorships and it's all this carefully created architect.

You can just fucking break it with your fist.

Just break it.

Fucking conquer, re-conquer, people reconquering their land from scratch. don't betray venizuela yeah lula betrayed venezuela straight up See, Tankies is such a great thing.

It's like when the Soviets went into Hungary with tanks, that's what started it all.

That's what set the precedent.

Authority, realism, power.

You know. authority, realism, power, you know, T. N. and Men Square. It's about, um, politics. That's what it is. It's what politics is. It's about crushing the lip tards.

Can you believe they were fucking retarded intellectuals in like 1956?

When they heard that the Soviets went into Hungary with tanks, they were like, oh,

I am so conflicted about this.

This betrays the human.

What a bunch of fucking idiots and suckers.

Retards.

What a bunch of pussies.

These guys were so stupid.

I hope the,

I hope the Soviet security services

used the shit out of them and manipulated them and fucking stole all the money from them.

Robbed them.

Idiot.

There literally should have been useful idiots.

It's stupid.

Oh, humanitarian. Shut up, bitch. idiots stupid humanitarian

shut up bitch

it's about

what's standing on business

it's about standing on business it's about standing on business what are you gonna do what are you going to do

listen? Listen, politics is not personal.

It's blind.

It's cruel.

It's ruthless.

That's what politics is. Politics is blind and ruthless.

It's, uh... and it's it needs to be respected as a force of nature instead of uh the result of individual intentions and will it needs to be understood as a...

You know, can I tell you guys a story very personal?

You're not going to believe it, but I'll tell you a story of when I was young.

And then I'll end the stream.

When I was a freshman in high school,

I believed in, you know, like,

oh, libertarian socialism,

like Noam chomsky

and you know

anarchism

i didn't believe in it

well you know like you know

we're against the

authoritarianism

everything should be

you know

collective

everything should be democratic direct democracy you know voluntary

direct democracy everything will be voted on all right so i had a group of friends and you know we were

doing like a school project you know

and you know we were all at my house

and we had to get together and fucking finish the project we had to like

get it done.

It's due.

You know, we've,

everyone had to be disciplined.

You know,

we have to know what roles we're in,

whatever.

And I,

that was my experiment

for direct democracy.

I was like,

oh,

you know,

I was like 13 or something at the time. I was like, oh, you know, I was like 13 or something at the time.

I was like, you know, let's all sit in a circle and like vote on it.

Everyone was just like horsing around and like, um, you're not taking it seriously telling jokes and it was just chaotic

they were like animals

so finally I stood up and I was like

enough

I grabbed a stick

and I just started beating everyone

and then I had a friend a stick and I just started beating everyone.

And then I had a friend, my biggest,

the friend who was like the biggest,

he became my henchman. I'm like,

grab that guy, grab that guy, grab that guy.

And we all, it was like, uh, it was literally like a, it was like it was literally like it was like

Hungary

1956

and I was like

all right listen

I mean it wasn't serious

it was like a joke

obviously

but like

that actually like

I don't know

I feel like it was deeper

in the sense of like you could draw a lesson from it

like that whole situation

it wasn't personal people are just like it's chaos

it's chaos to make order out of chaos

got to fucking

use force

it's not personal

you're just responding to a situation

I mean when I say like I grabbed a stick and beat everyone, it was like not in a serious way, like, in a joking way, but it still had the same effect.

You know what I'm saying?

Exercising authority, yeah. Yeah. exercising authority yeah

but then I actually felt guilty about it

can you believe that because I was like oh my god this proves it

this proves direct democracy doesn't work

there needs to be discipline

and control

anyway

this is my

this is the most retarded thing I've ever said

on stream

anyway

um but I'm thing I've ever said on stream. Anyway, um,

but I'm here to share my

unfiltered thoughts.

Aren't I a psychopath

for comparing that as a

14 year old kid or 13 year old kid?

I don't know.

Psychopath for like experiencing that and being like, oh, this is just like what happened

in the Russian Revolution.

Like, yeah, they started out like trying to, but then they had to like, like, I thought

that was actually it.

Aren't I retarded for that?

Anyway.

It's kind of funny.

Well, no, you know, it's interesting.

Because like when you're, when you're a teenager

and you are interested in Marxism, you're really trying to find so many different ways to make it relatable.

Like you're trying to like, like, what is, Kami? What is that? What is this? What does it mean?

What,

how could I relate to it?

In what way?

You know?

And it's like,

it's very interesting.

It's very interesting. It's very interesting.

Anyway, guys.

Anyway, guys.

Anyway, guys. Anyway, guys. Where? Where's the Fadriss and Khael?

Tchafe the world from where

It's down by yourself

You'd call for you

I'm trying to

I'm just the

not that I'd be

I'd stand a little

Or the kind of you'll need You've got you've got to Not the way I stander I'm gonna'en

You're always

You'd have to beckxed

To take your assort you

Oh, I

I'm malle

I'm malle

I'm m'allie

We're malan't

We're telling you

D'N'tlopina

And you're still

Yeah,

you're still Yeah, she's

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her

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my own

still

We're still

We're we're on us

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We're with us

We're gonna detrault

Where?

What?

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me, I know

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my name's me,

what's the word that's gonna'

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we're a man,

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ma'ra'u'll hear me.

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ma'am,

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