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Gerella Army! We've got quite the stream on our hands.

First of all, I want to get this out of the way.

For they have to go to bed.

We have an inside source breaking news from the CP USA.

They want to get in VC. Tell them to get in VC right now.

And they're going to give us inside details on Terran, Joe Sims, Rosanna,

everything. I got the scoop. We want to fucking hear it right now.

I've been looking forward to this all night. So where where is that person? Here they are.

Hello. Hello?

Yo, can you hear me? Are you the CP USA guy?

That's me.

All right.

Drop it's happened.

Spill the beans. Let's hear what's going on yeah do you want me to come up or just just Mike Mike is fine did for did you get expelled I take it you got expelled right no but I'm pretty much going to do some self-expulsion after this

whole saga man it's like a little bit much at this point you know you can't

get a key anymore yeah it's kind uh, I wouldn't say I'm totally exposed, but I'm pretty much, pretty much there at this point, uh, more or less.

So it's, I think it's time for me to make my exit if you understand.

Sure, it's, it's uh, obviously it's always down to the individual's choice.

Tell me what exactly you saw and what you witnessed that pushed you over the edge,

because this is what we want to hear.

Yeah, I mean, it actually occurred to me to like, you know, talk about this after your most recent

appearance on Tim Poole.

And I found it so interesting the guy you were talking to was insisting that Joe Sims and the CPUSA more broadly has like some sort of, you know, magical influence over the Democrats because my experience with this party has been that they're grossly

fucking incompetent. It's a broken party I think intentionally and I thought it might be interesting

to tell you the full story. So you know begin with, I joined the party back in early, early 2021. I'm in the

Long Island Club still, technically. I was in there with a guy, I think you're familiar with him,

Viva. Yeah yeah Ernesto so yeah

when I joined there were a bunch of ops in there like and everybody who's doing

you know 2036 or you, they're probably already familiar with that,

but if anyone's thinking about doing it, you need to know that there are a ton of people in the party

who are aware of this initiative and they're deliberately trying to derail it and they're trying to

fuck with our people basically.

So you know just be aware of that.

Some of them I think you know it's not a stretch to say they might I don't know if they're feds like

Federal agents that's ridiculous to think the FBI would you know put people in this

fucking party by the way I don't mean interrupt but the FBI does claim that they still are monitoring the party

I don't know if you knew that well I'm of the view that like it's probably they have informants working for them yeah I don't think there's like

agents you know what I mean like yeah yeah yeah informants makes sense totally right and that's definitely happening so okay let me let me start from the. I mean I joined the party, you know, as me and Viva and we both kind of said, hey man, you know, we just got to stick it out with these, you know, boomers and these obvious, you know, federal-type affiliated people and these ops and by the way don't don't be giving

anyone away because you know I don't know if you know I mean he left oh he left what

yeah he did when did he leave I want to say it was about a

I don't know it wasn't a year ago but it was within the last year you know maybe nine

months ago or so. Oh my God it's fucking rough I actually met him in person with a bunch of others and he was doing

Takea at the time. But you know, look, we're launching a new organization, so it's no big issue.

And you know, if you're, if're if by the way this isn't a

cue to tell everyone else to quit especially if you have an important

position stay but if you got it found out or you got expelled don't worry

about it we got a new organization and if you had experience in CPU

say that's going to be a plus but anyway I don't mean interrupt continue.

No yes so and by the way you know I kind of want to repeat the same

sentiment before I go on like please if anyone's sticking it out and they're having any kind of success like

continue what you're doing you know I joined the party like I said I joined the party Viva and I you know

we were like we had this sort of agreement yeah we're gonna stick this out blah blah blah and it just became clear right away that the way that they really

fuck with this party is by making it like basically you know intransigent like they get these people together who are you know in the habit of not

achieving anything and they basically like it results in these clubs meeting our club met

on Zoom I think most of the clubs meet on

Zoom. Not a lot gets done when they meet and then through like procedural like

debates or like little petty bullshit like you know just nothing gets done you know

like it's really like a big waste of time, you know, they're not doing any real work. So what I did was I decided to join recruiting because my club was like a dead club. They didn't meet for like six months and I decided to help out with the New York, you know, regional

recruiting and to try to like funnel members into the Long Island Club.

And I was able to actually get a few people.

I got some younger people, which is always a good thing.

CPUSA does nothing to attract like college-age kids or younger.

You know even like the young Communist League like it's fucking you know it's just a

joke you know it's like 30 year olds or older and whatever I want to briefly

interrupt telling you something because I relate to what you're saying a lot because uh

about half a decade ago when I was in not more than half a decade ago actually

almost a year ago I was in the youth one of the small youth chapters of the

DSA and I can say like I wasn't there for very long for exactly the reason you gave like

There's this feminine culture in these leftist organizations where they don't get anything done. Any attempt to get anything done is toxic masculine.

So they all just want to sit around and feel good about each other and you know make friends but they don't want to get anything done.

Like they don't even want to do anything because everything is bad and

tainted so the only good thing you could do is nothing or canvas for

democrats right but continued sorry no it's it's a really good way of putting

it man because you know once I had recruited a few people

most of the the clubs they communicate through signal which is if anybody

doesn't know it's like a I guess it's like an encrypted you know chat app it's not totally fed

infiltrated yeah I mean, I'm, whatever, you know, it's, I didn't, I didn't know shit about it. I only have it because the party told me to download it. So, you know, I went into our signal group and I basically said, you know, hey, we haven't met for six months.

What I think we should do is hold elections.

And you know, we need like everybody to basically take on a task, you know, take on a roll,

and we need to get the fucking ball rolling because nobody's doing shit.

Dude, like a bunch of, you know, these people were like pretty much down with what I was saying,

but then like a couple of them started to come in and say like, hey, you know, you're getting a little ahead of yourself here, like, slow down, hey you know you're getting a little ahead of

yourself here like slowed down you know you're gonna going a hundred miles an hour like

relax like well whoa dude and then so they Viva can can corroborate this whole story but but there was a guy I want to give Viva can corroborate this whole story but there was a guy I want to give

Viva in here too if he's if he's down but he's I don't have to wake he knows

more about the guy I'm about to talk about okay it's very fascinating

guys if anyone if don't wake him up if he's sleeping obviously, but if Viva is around, I don't think he's awake actually.

I rarely see him in chat these nights, but, uh, yeah, again, I was going to say, continue, continue, sorry for interrupting.

If he's awake, if he's around, then get in so Q.

But anyway, go ahead.

So look, there was a guy in the Long Island Club who wanted to bring an American flag to one of the events and he wasn't a gorilla or anything like that man he's like a regular like guy you know he just wanted to bring this American flag in and this dude who I have no problem saying his name now his name is Bruce

He like fought tooth and nail, you know this member who wanted to bring this flag like that's a symbol of imperialism and like freaking out or whatever.

And big fight and they both ended up leaving the club.

So when I... Hold on, sorry, I got a... The guy who wanted the flag and the person who attacked them left?

Correct. Correct. That was kind of like a... wanted the flag and the person who attacked them left?

Correct.

That was kind of like a knockout.

You know, like cancel each other out, I guess.

But anyway, go ahead.

Precisely, precisely.

Except as soon as I started posting in the signal group that we need to have

elections again with a bunch of people I just recruited being voting members now

suddenly Bruce returned to the fucking party and he decides that well he starts shouting me down there's like this

whole stupid argument the signal group but they actually went ahead and

started a separate signal group with just like these three or four people who were like I don't know long tenured

members and essentially they decided the agenda of the next meeting they

decided who would be eligible for you know different positions in this little election we are going gonna have in other words just totally betraying the whole

fucking Democratic centralism idea like fucking basically rigging it and I'm I was pissed man but I'm like you know what

Trying to play it play it cool here like I'm just gonna go along with it they don't have to I wanted them to elect me chair

So that I could have a position of power but all right it's not gonna happen whatever I'll just hang in there

Maybe I could get a delegate spot somewhere down the line

So fucking you know they they do their sham election they actually pick

Bruce the guy I think he's a informant but he's actually he runs the CP USA

Long Island Twitter so if you see that on Twitter that's him

and Viva was actually

trying to get that back from Bruce when Bruce left the party. They wouldn't give it to

him. There was like a whole fight over it, you know, and Bruce didn't have to give up

the account even though he wasn't in the club.

It's a fucking joke man like, you know, these people like play by their own rules,

but then they get really rigid about rules when you want to do anything.

So yeah, I don't know, whatever.

I made it through that whole saga. And okay, I want to ingratiate myself to these people now because now we're at odds you know what I mean?

So they tell me that the party is having an event called the Road to Socialism event meeting at the party headquarters which is in Manhattan which is like you know

an hour away from where I live so I'm like fuck it okay I'll go to this stupid goddamn event

like you know I'll check it out I mean what's it's a weekend you know like I'll come by each day and I'll get to meet some people

dude I didn't really know what I was walking into I thought like I don't know I thought like Joe Sims was this like high up guy you know that like you have to spend a lot of time in the

party to get to meet him I go to their building they're in like an old hotel in

Manhattan and you go up to like the party if anybody hasn't been to the party headquarters you should go to the party headquarters it's like a little weird like but I walk in and I'm right away greeted by none other than Taren fevick

and There we go. So like I'm not cammed up right now but I actually do stream. If anyone

seen me before you know I'm like a bald guy like you know I'm a fucking normal looking

kind of masculine guy you know what I'm a fucking normal looking kind of masculine guy, you know what I mean?

And I walk in and I'm like, encounter this woman and she's like, oh, hi, here are you?

And I'm like, oh, fuck, here we go.

And right away, I think she's assuming like, oh, this is one of those,

you know, infrared people, and I try to like, you know,

sweet talk her a little bit.

I'm like, oh, hey, you know, I'm new, blah, blah, blah, like,

and she's like, oh, well, are you going to be at the protest tomorrow morning?

And I'm like, I don't know if I can make it.

Honestly, I don't want to interrupt you, but it really sounds like she was flirting with you.

You know, just the way she was, yeah, I don't know.

But, you know, let me tell you something. If she was flirting with you, it would have been your responsibility. Take one for the team. You know, double agent, honeypot, infrared infrared type of shit you know I'm sorry but this is

your responsibility and you know but anyway continue yeah man well it's funny you should say that because there may have been an opportunity, which I'll get to in a second, but I fucking, I tell her I'm like, nah, I can't make the protest tomorrow morning,

tomorrow morning, I gotta go to kickboxing and she's like oh kickboxing

well you'll be able to fight the oppressors then with us I was like holy shit like you can't make this

fucking person up like you know this is like it's sexual harassment straight up

but okay I'm I'm walking in and bro like again if anybody has enjoy I don't want to

discourage anybody you know but I'm in this place and I'm like kind of like a

normal guy you know what I mean and dude I go around these people and they're

fucking dude it's fucking gross like the people in this party are gross people you know they

really are they're like but like all the stuff we talk about online, like Soy Boys,

and all, like, it's the real deal, man.

These are like people that look like they're made of like a paste or like a jelly.

It's fucking very uncomfortable being around them.

I was like, ew, I I felt like dirty being in this building.

Obviously, you know I've been in contact with a lot of people from all over the country and half of these chapters are polycules and they're full of

the chromosome chroma what do you call it what's the political right term

the chromosome abundant let's say the people with superabundance of chromosomes

and they all are in a polycule and there's a different gender for every single

member of the polycule and it's and you know it's just it's yeah continue.

Yeah, it really is like that, like, uh, fuck, I can't wait to get to the next, but okay, I kind of want to skip ahead, but just quickly, so, you know, I'm going through and I'm meeting everybody, everybody's very suspicious, you know, they're kind of like looking me over and I'm like, hey,

you're new, huh? Like they all know, like they all have a feeling, they have a sense.

And I run into Bruce, the wrecker guy, you know, and I'm, he was very weird, it's very high school, know he was he's like a guy in like his 50s and he's like

pretends not to see me and like another party member had to introduce me and he's like oh hey you know nice to meet you it's like very weird you know like catty kind of like like you said feminine you know like passive

aggressive environments.

Oh Viva's here.

Yes, yeah, hey, what's up man?

Viva what is up man?

No, long time no sea.

I've in a long time.

Yo, you there?

Listen Viva before anything I want to ask you a question.

So, yeah. Listen Viva before anything. I want to ask you a question. So...

Um, hold, I'm going to mute myself for the stream. Hold on.

And I'm going to get... Hold on.

Hold on. I'll just mute myself.

Wait, wait, wait, hold, I got this wrong. I have to mute the stream for a sec. You're going to. I don't know if Go ahead.

Alright guys, so I don't know if you know, so if Viva was at the Schiller, because I was asking his permission if I could say this.

So Viva was at the Schiller conference with us. You guys remember the Schiller

photos we took and there was one guy whose face we had to blur out, right? And we

had to get rid of it. And then like these crazy stalkers I had were like that's Adam Tahir's brother.

That's a Tahir family guy.

That was Viva. That was literally Viva.

Okay, so Viva was part of Long Island CP USA and he told me to not show his face because it would give

away his Takea.

So that was Viva.

Do you guys remember that?

That was Viva.

I was, like, I was waiting until Viva gets kicked out so I could say that. Now'm kidding but it's like I could not say what the reason was so like that oh my god that's his brother and it's like no that was Viva

Vee what are you ethnic like Puerto Rican or something now I'm Dominican'm Dominican. Dominican. He's Dominican.

So it's like is a guy with curly hair and they're like, oh, he's an Arab.

It must be the Tahir.

The long loss to hear, brother, and it's like, it's literally just Viva, you know?

Anyway, continue with the story.

I just wanted to share

you guys talking about the the Long Island club was going on there yeah so I was I we

should go back a little bit because I mentioned Bruce and the whole

fucking debacle with the flag. The bitch groups.

You got it.

You should give some more context there

because you saw that whole thing go down.

Yeah, basically, it was me and this other guy.

He wasn't part of us, right?

He wasn't part of the, you know, the guerrillas, but he was kind of sympathetic without even knowing and we were

talking about patriotism actually organically and this fucking British he's

British by the way this British fat guy just starts freaking out and spazzing out and starts talking about

how America is evil and all that stuff and we we're just going to calm down but this guy got like a vendetta against us and for the whole time he was trying to kick out the other guy like the guy that's not a gorilla

and it became a whole thing where we were at a war with this guy and it ended up getting to the point where he insulted one of us and insulted me too.

And I played like the liberal card and I was like, I feel so insulted that I got whatever.

He got reprimand that he thought he was actually called and then came back later on. it. out the guy he was hunting was the sympathizer and you guys were the guerrillas.

So did they, okay, so did they actually find out you guys were guerrillas or what?

No, what happened was, no, they didn't find out.

So we take the W, they didn't find out you guys I don't know what happened but they didn't know

what happened but they didn't know how he wasn't exposed so it was a W straight up it

was a W and we have other clubs too you know

we're not gonna talk about that but yeah yeah yeah yeah I know I know I know but

the long island one is one that I had not been I wasn't really getting intelligence from that one but that's what we're here now we're

getting it for the public you know only yeah did you guys so do you know the Twitter

yeah he told us.

He told us.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So I think he reacted to one of his things and like people in the discord were reacting to one of the tweets.

I wanted to say so bad like how that was happening, but could and at the time but yeah he won't

this oh my god and then there's other people too like they're very sad like

people and then you know I'm not gonna name names for this I don't know what you guys have I didn't watch the

stream but what I do know is that there's this young guy. That's all I'll say.

He's the pussy, bro. He won't be left. I know you're talking about it. He left.

Oh, shit. Why can't, why can't we mention him?

Okay, no, I don't.

We should just say his name, dude.

Noah, his name's Noah.

Yeah, Noah.

Yeah, he went through the YCL, I think he's friends with Tearin.

Yeah, he is. I don't know friends with Terran. Yeah, he is.

I don't know why he left.

Is that the guy who was like the Biden Twitter guy?

Who's like, I'm not talking about Lenin would vote for Biden?

Is that a different guy?

I don't know, but that sounds like something he might say.

I mean, he he was he was a

fucking

total op

total pain in the ass

total fucking pussy I mean like whatever but he left I forget what his reasoning was I think I think

some ulcers kicked him out actually.

That's what I heard.

Are they drawing out?

He would talk shit in the chat and then whenever we were being zoom,

he would be a complete.

Because he also is cold as hell right now.

So I'm kind of like if you hear a shot or in the yeah yeah don't worry about it. So N I want you to continue the Terran stuff

because it seemed like there was some steamy spicy things you were gonna tell us about your potential entanglement with

Taren Fevec of course for the greater good obviously for the cause.

Oh my god I don't know if a greater good exists that could justify that bro but I fucking I'm I'm in there you know over the weekends and

whatever I met Joe Sims you know again I thought like hey this is the fucking you know

head of the party like I must have to wait at some time to meet him he's just rolling through the

fucking you know the the headquarters rolling all over the place in his little

scooter and I met him and dude like you talk with that guy about Joe Sims I was laughing my

ass off.

He's a feeble old man, you know what I'm saying?

Like, he's so fucking like, he's like our Biden, really.

I mean, it's sad, you know, and it's a, we, it was weird and, you know, a little unkind, he was like falling asleep during the speeches you know they're doing all these speeches where it's like some 20 year old kid telling everybody that they're racist and Joe Sims is like half asleep I felt like I was in a retirement home slash polycule slash I don't know you know like

fucking special ed meeting you know it was fucking weird

So the end of the night Friday night a couple of these people turn to me and they're like hey are you

interested in sleeping over I'm like oh what wait who asked you to sleep over I'm trying to

remember exactly who it was,

because you know, there's a bunch of people there,

but it was a male member, I'm pretty sure, you know.

And essentially.

What the fuck?

Well, and I'm like, you know, I'm not, I'm not really interested in doing that, and they were like well why don't we just show you where the beds are?

Bro they got beds?

Dude so they have like a I forget if it's another floor I'm pretty sure it's like a weird building is kind of hard to remember the layout but it's another floor and you go down and it's like tiled you know what I mean like hard tile floor this is like the fucking horror story I gave but I even know what their compound looks like.

Bro, it's like, fucking hostile, you know? Like you're walking in, you're like, okay, somebody's gonna

get fucking massacred in here, like I just know it. And the rooms are like, you know, dorm style and like there's no

fucking way I'm sleeping in like a you know a murder bunker in this God

forsaken building with Taren Fivick and Bruce and these fucking freaks.

So I was there.

Well, yeah, Bruce was there, dude.

Bruce was there.

Were these bunk beds?

I didn't even see the beds themselves, you know, but they had like a bathroom with a shower.

It's weird.

The whole setup is very strange.

Seriously, anybody doing 2036, go to the party headquarters.

Is pretty sure if you're a party member you can more or less just walk in.

I don't know Viva if you've ever seen it but it's a very strange place.

But both couldn't have been on a bunk bed that his fat ass would have broken.

He would have killed somebody.

Oh my God man.

So tell us about this sleepover and what, because, I think this, you know, go ahead.

Well, that's the thing. I didn't stay. I kind of wish I did for this story, but it was very uncomfortable.

And, you know, I got out of there, I was like, fuck this shit. And, you know, got out of there I was like fuck this shit and you know it was it felt

like dude like all the horror stories people hear about like anime convention

type people where like they all end up you know having sex with each other and

everybody's mad. Wait do you think these sleepovers were actually like

sexual in nature they're like doing shit in these beds? I don't know bro like

these are like adults you know and like I would imagine like what are you

doing sleeping over in like some fucking weird ass like you know there's got to be

something sexual going on you know like I don't know and it was mostly guys you

know biological men and then two women and

Tarrin being one and this other girl who was nice but she had like insane pit hair

it was fucking weird so I don't know like they I would imagine they got to be

banging like there's got somebody has to be having sex there you know some sort of gross weird sex it was

very uncomfortable the whole thing right and then you know they really frowned upon

me not sleeping there like I think that made them more suspicious because I came back the next day and a bunch of people were like, why didn't you stay over? Why didn't you stay over? And I don't know how to tell them like what they were doing that like, okay, what did I miss out on what were you doing? I probably should have pride, you know, like, oh, what did I miss?

Right, what were the fun sleepover activities I missed out on, you know?

Was there like strip poker or something?

I don't know, man, these fuckersers are they're weird people you know who

knows what they're doing in there but yeah like there was that whole experience and

dude like Taren Fevic and the all these people they have like know, literature and they do like these long speeches.

And you know, these people are fucking idiots, dude.

Like they don't say anything of insider substance.

They ramble.

Everybody's racist.

Everybody in the party is racist and sexist. Even though it's like all old boomers who are like

what they're doing what they do is like this kind of self-criticism thing where

they're like there's structural racism and sexism and sexism and is that what they do or

exactly exactly but bro like there are people and sexism is that what they do or? Exactly, exactly.

But bro, like there are people in the party.

I mean, Viva knows who are like...

Can I ask the question, does Terran ever like a tone for her whiteness ever?

Like does she ever see as a woman? No, dude.

Never.

Because she's a woman.

And she, I feel like she was like a fucking,

like a, she feels like a queen overseeing her slave-ass

Simp Army in that chat.

So she never was like, oh, as a white. Simp Army in that chat.

So she never was like, oh, as a white woman or as a white person, I truly want to step aside and kneel. Like she never was like, I know I want to humble myself.

Because I've that's what they do, right?

Or.

I think that's what I expected, but okay, one of the speeches that weekend was I can't remember the kid's name

But he's from a I think the Queen's club and he did a whole speech on like race or whatever

He's a black kid. He's one of the only black people there actually and she did not say a goddamn word the entire time he spoke

or talked about anything I don't think she shared anything but our well I don't want to say

hour but you haze and you know people in this sphere of the internet did come up during that conversation

someone mentioned you know Pat Sox right and it was so weird like you see these people

like it's like they poke their heads up like almost like whack them all and they're like spouting out like different like well those are just

fascists and like the whole party is like it's kind of crazy that like a significant percentage of the

party is like committed to stopping 2036 you know like that's really their that's why

that's why so in other chapters I've observed this but for the

ones you guys were observing didn't some people just join the party just to stop

2036 I've heard of that like people just were obsessed with that and it was a bunch of actually DSA type people right

It was like the Sayers who joined just to be our 2036ers

Yeah, I call them counter 36ers they They would join to be counter 36ers, I guess.

Oh, there was some people that actually, it sounded corrupt.

Like some people would actually try and join, they weren't even part of the party.

Is that they knew old people who were in the leadership

and they got to join the war even communists.

And they were going and speaking in meetings.

Talking about random stuff that doesn't even matter.

Well, that's what happened with Bruce.

Like he left, and then he arbitrarily comes back and he's like a voting member and deciding shit and

still running the... he ran the social media even though he wasn't in the club for like I don't know Vivo

when did he leave he was gone for like a fucking year and they wouldn't in the club for like I don't know Viva when did he leave he was gone for like a

fucking year and they wouldn't turn the social media over. No he kept it he was and when he was gone he was still

posting on it the motherfooker hijacked. Haidacked so I want to ask a question

do they do do they clap or do they snap or what or jazz hands?

Or do they clap?

Or do they clap?

Maybe they clap.

I think from what I remember from the conference, I think there was a fair bit of clapping, not a lot of snapping.

Okay, they clap, that's okay, that's a start.

What about the point of personal privilege stuff that the DSA convention is that?

Is that anywhere?

Okay. No, got it. No, no.

No.

Thankfully.

It's not that bad. You know it's very weird though, like I was talking about this the other night

with some people that's like they have, it's kind of sad, they have like stacks and stacks and stacks of like

collectors edition like Lenin's full you know full works you know marks like

really really old books like it clearly and they have like these shrines up with like Gus Hall and all these like important people

you know in the history of the party and you know Marx and Lenin and you know like they

really don't emphasize Mao and no Stalin at all of course but it's just the

contrast between like these you know some of them like legends you know in this

broad movement historically versus you know like Taren fievic and like the girl with pit hair and like they're

fucking talking about how everybody's racist it's it made me feel like I want to

take this building back you know what I mean but the struggle is like the building

itself was kind of rebelling against the

Perverts that were occupying it and doing unspeakable things on the bunk beds is that what we get or

Exactly exactly dude exactly

I don't know it's it's a little bit like again not trying to like de motivates or whatever like but part of the I basically decided to leave because I just you know I don't know about Viva but like I kind of felt like I'm putting in all this work you know I paid a hundred dollars to fucking help that rag

People's World stay alive

You know and their fundraising and all this shit were you able to climb and power at all in the party or how did that work

To give people a rundown or

yeah that was a big deal here that we were able to climb in power in some extent

but I feel like in the CP USA there's a big issue because even if you did get a delegate position right?

It's a whole thing with like a state conference and then it's done by them.

It's a complicated thing. It's been a while I forgot, But it's not as simple as getting the vote. I don't think

From the markets. Yeah, and that's what matters.

You know, or else you're just going to trust and support of the Central Committee because they ultimately appoint everyone. Yeah, I know.

It's almost like the fucking Electoral College, you know, like the vote doesn't directly do

anything, it's just kind of, you know, it's a factor I guess. But, um, besides the Central Committee, who do you think had the most power in the party?

The New York YCL, they got a lot of power. Also, the legacy old people, like those people who've been in the party for

fucking 40 years or whatever.

It's kind of like nobody wants to tell them they're wrong because you know

they've been there for long enough.

But the wise name is.

Do they ever butt heads with the YCL or are they fully?

I don't, I don't really see it. They butt heads with the Pat socks, supposedly what they call it. They just go with whatever Joe Sims says. It's the same thing. I feel like heroin, hijacking Joe Sims brain and all that stuff. And the YCL just chills in the headquarters all the time, making protest, stupid protest every week.

That's all it is.

Does Joe Sims ever use the word Pat sock or is that just the younger people who use that word?

I don't know. He said patriotic socialists. that just the younger people who use that word? No.

He said patriotic socialists.

He said that.

Oh, yes, he gave a speech at our club, not like through Zoom, I think,

talking about that.

He said the so-called patriotic socialists yes correct those exact words actually and he's

the real patriotic socialist right because he's actually a real because I don't

it's funny because the younger people don't know this but I'm pretty sure Joe

Sims and Rosanna if you ask them about patrons and be like yeah we want to be

patriotic don't they or I didn't talk he didn't talk about that that much at that

event but I know I know it's like their official

position it has been even during the Sam Webby where they would say shit like that and they'd

have a black and flags and everything that's actually something related to Bruce he was talking about how him and a bunch of other people wanted to

Like there was some sort of debate in between even the Central Committee themselves about

Getting rid of the USA from CP USA or something like that. What would they replace it with?

I don't know, like I have no idea that's what the debate was.

But he said something about that like

I said that well then we were having a debate and I was like

well then why would we call the CP USA right and he said oh well

actually I've been bringing that up to the committee whatever and a lot of them

agree some shit like that if a bunch of boomers some of them are some of them wanted

gone some of them don't.

They want the United, the USA part gone, the Boomers?

Yeah, they're like not as patriotic, some of them.

So what, what would they replace the USA with?

I don't know, that's just something that he was saying but it's like

Nationalistic or whatever he was talking about. I mean look it's just just my opinion

but like people like Bruce I don't even think they have like a vision for the party that's why I think they're

like federal Twitter I can I can access or what's their Twitter?

It would be the CP USA, Long Island.

Yeah, Long Island.

Long Island.

Okay. Let me look this up because I think they might have blocked me

Long Island CP USA. Okay. I am not blocked.

I'm looking on them on there right now. So Bruce is really against me I guess, right?

I mean, okay, I was trying to say like he, I don't think it's that he has a real vision here. I think, honestly dude, I think he's like a federal informant and I think he's there to disrupt the

party and fuck with people and make things more difficult to operate in general.

And his opposition to you and this whole movement is more about preventing the party

from actually doing anything

versus some like ideological vision.

And he was like 50, you said?

Something like that.

Yeah, he's participating in the slumber parties.

Yes, he's all about slumber parties.

So what's this...

What's the stuff about them all wearing like matching pajamas or is that...

Is that real or what?

I didn't witness that but it's possible.

It's possible. You know what because I'm going to just come clean about something?

When I was informed about you someone told me they were like this guy's

this guy's he wants to tell you about how

Taren Joe Sims and Rosanna all had a sleepover and they wore matching pajamas and I

You know I was waiting for the part where you mentioned the matching pajamas, but I guess this is a game of telephone and that's not

That's not really what what's going on

but uh I'm sorry man yeah I was really waiting for that part because you know

but whatever.

That's okay. I mean we can imagine them wearing that I guess.

I guess that helps. But um so tell me tell me about like what led to both of you guys leaving the party like what was the

breaking point where you couldn't do it anymore. So basically after we had a club

president or something I honestly I forgot his name. It doesn't matter. He left because of some family issue or something.

And then that was also around the time that Bruce was acting up, left, whatever.

So we didn't have a meeting for over a month and that led me to take it like as an opportunity to start

pushing for elections so we could get the delegate position and whatever and replace, we basically replace these guys.

And we let another do take the leadership to. and we're basically replace these guys.

And we let another do take the leadership position because it doesn't really matter.

Like, it doesn't matter.

That person is kind of a secretary, it don't matter.

And yeah, we basically got certain positions and tried I pushed for the delegate position

but you know this old dude was kind of like very hesitant about it and explaining why it

couldn't happen and it didn't work and then I had stuff in other clubs too so

basically I kind of felt like I did everything I could and I needed to I needed to focus on

school so I had to leave but yeah that's why that's no problem.

Non-smoker can you enlighten us a little bit on what may based on your experience

is the Communist Party more influential than the military industrial complex?

Dude that was the funniest shit I ever heard in my fucking life because it's

People need to know why not why what what what leads you to believe that the CP USA leadership isn't

controlling the Democratic Party? Well they're designed not to function you

know what I mean like they're they're like built in a way that the party is like

Fundamentally fucked up and broken and it's meant to be you know

Yes a honey pot you know but there's not even that many radicals going into the the party really I don't think like it's meant to be I think like a big

like exercise in teaching radical young people not to be involved in politics like

it's meant to just make you disgusted with the whole thing and give up and that's what happens

you think they go for a deliberate demor like make you disgusted with the whole thing and give up and that's what happened to the end of you.

They go for a deliberate demoralization kind of thing.

100%.

And in terms of them having influenced, like dude, I mean you kind of said it in the debate but it's just

obvious to anybody's familiar with CPUSA all they've done since you know the the

90s really is promote Democrats well to be fair didn't Trevor say that a CP USA member is the reason for the

Secretary of the Interior and they started the whole campaign because that's what they

claimed I mean it's fucking dude that's like the most like deranged shit ever you know I

don't know what like know like if Joe Biden a

bull job so like you know he that means that we control the whole world

so what about that who's that woman in Seattle he was talking about was her name

Debbie what was her name the the Seattle woman because he claimed that she was

funding the CP USA and like like bank rolling their takeover of institutions.

What about labor?

What about unions?

Does the CPU say control any unions at all?

Actually, no, no, wait, wait, wait, wait,

they were influential in the Amazon.

I'm not, I don't remember her name, but one of the YCL was like very close friends with them.

But I think that they had a falling out or something.

With the, yeah, they fell out with Chris Smalls, I know about that.

Yeah, that's you're Like trying to overthrow him.

They are with the Starbucks union.

Bruce specifically was obsessed.

Obsessed with the Starbucks union.

Was that like, just to take a dig at us or was it genuinely?

No, no, I have no idea.

He was obsessed with it.

Like he would just always talk about the Star of the

scene.

So Bruce, a crusader against patriotism and fighter for baristas.

So, and that was his fixation.

Yeah, he's an internationalist, you know, British Empire agent.

And he's fucking, so tell me about this.

So does he come from Britain?

I mean, he has a British accent or what?

No, he doesn't have a wrong British accent, but apparently like he was the, he grew up or something like that. but he talks about the Queen one time I remember.

God what does he want from us? I mean what why doesn't he so he's in it so he

he because he's an internationalist he came to the US and

well he was in uh... the communist party of Britain

uh... for like twenty fucking years or something is anyone know why he left

or

never heard the story.

I think he may have mentioned that he just,

I just sort of moved back.

He didn't really have like a big falling out or anything.

But that was supposed to give him credibility.

It was like, oh oh Bruce did 20 years with

the communist party of great Britain he must really know what he's talking about

and yeah like viva's right he would like go on these sort of tangents about

i don't know like british fucking political issues from 20 years ago

but uh no indication of why he left why he was there to begin with either he's an American

But yeah it was just you know meant to kind of bolster his resume, I think.

I see and non-smoker, I don't know if I asked you, but what led you to leave or did you already answer that?

I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I kind of hashed it out a little before, but to put it simply, it's just like frustration frustration man I mean like I'm I'm a little bit older than you guys you know I'm in my 30s I'm a

fucking high school teacher like I'm a busy guy and I tried my hardest really like I really did you know I took out my personal time to go to these fucking

pajama parties and fucking whatever and spent money and a lot of time recruiting.

You know like I really spent a lot of time calling people meeting random people at like

Dunkin Donuts you you know, and talking

them into the party and, you know, with varying levels of success and it's just sort of like demoralizing

as you put it, you know, when you see like, you know, because for the vision for the new organization basically what it's going to be is that the

only time you guys have meetings in person is to do something like not to plan to do something

but to literally meet up and do something.

Planning you just do that over the internet right you don't need to have a

fucking meeting you know in person.

That's so true like the CPU say you can end with and end with meetings and bureaucracy

of you could be like let's meet up meetings and bureaucracy of nothing.

You could be like, let's meet up at this part of town.

We're gonna do a garbage clean up.

Let's all meet up here at this time.

See who can come, see who can't.

Here's what we'll do.

Here's how we'll take care of it.

By the time you guys show up everything's already set and he just

fucking get shit done. And that way like, you know, yeah, because I get what you guys are saying.

It's like, it's a lot of energy and nothing's even being done. You're just going to fucking meetings and having slumber parties with Taren.

Honestly, I think that you need to launch that organization before anything major can go done with the CPUSA.

Because it kind of seems like, I'm not saying that it can't be done, done right but it kind of seems like it's at a stalemate because not because we haven't done good but because they've intentionally rigged the game they've completely rigged the game you know now they've put the party in a state of necrosis basically yeah and we do have

Guerrillas in there we have them firmly rooted in this party and they need to stay

there but yeah for those that cannot continue doing this and you have no

because I think at this

point if you joined recently you can't be a delegate am I correct?

I think so something like that I read the Constitution a while back and I found that there's some sort of

caveat like that. Yeah. I've not been a member for an extra amount of time

of pay. Right and their elections are this summer and we know what the party is

going to be in full mobilization for 2024 and that's going to be tough for a lot of people.

So I'm going to tell you basically our strategy and I'm going to say it openly and I'm confident it's going to work and there's,

I'll reveal the evil plan openly it's my

villainous plan we are going to destroy the foundations of the leadership and

Terran and the revisionist click of the CP USA over the course of the next year by

accentuating the election issue.

Because here's the thing, Ultra leftist in the CP USA also don't want a campaign for Biden, especially because of the

Palestine issue.

And there's been a tenuous alliance between the liberal, conservative liberals, and the ultra's in the party against the Pat Sox.

So how are you going to know who's a Pat Sox and who's an ultra-leftis

besides, you know, whether they're transgender or not, right?

So, you know, we are going to accentuate that conflict and you can't, you're not going to be able to identify. Everybody who's like raising this as an issue or getting involved in it, we're going to do it in a chaotic way so there's no way to know who is actually stoking the flames.

Because once we get the flames going, POC trans women will be screaming about Joe Biden's white privilege.

You're not going to know whether they originated it or we originated it or someone else originated it.

It's going to be a game of telephone. There's going to be no way to identify the chaos agents in the party.

The agents of discord and this is what we're going to do. We're going to be pushing the election issue

because the party is going to be going into full 2024 Democrat

bot mobilization. That's not going to sit well with the newer members.

Whether they're our guys or there are enemies, it doesn't

matter. It's not popular among the Ultras. It's not popular among our guys. And it's not, the only, let me

ask you a question, is there a youth contingent that is pro-Democrat openly at all? Because I feel like they're in the minority in the

party the younger ones that are pro-Dem I feel like it's kind of like at least from

when I was there. It just reminds me of the DSA a lot you know but from the thumb that's like, oh, we need to in order not to get

from the weird thumb that'll be like, you know, they're against it.

But think that we like the DSA, honestly, that's just what it reminds me of the YSL type, you know? Yeah, I got you there.

Because I know on if you if Twitter discourse is anything to go by

nobody wants to vote for Joe Biden especially now they're saying there's a big debate erupting over it.

And we're going to exploit that debate and we're going to like really, really

drive a wedge and stick our knives right in between. Because the basic

debate right now is that what we can't vote for genocide Joe versus but what

about trans rights I'm not even shitting you that's literally the debate right

now so we're gonna actually accentuate that debate and make sure we stoke

the flames and I'm revealing my villainous evil

plan openly because they simply cannot stop it. There's nothing they can do to

stop it. I mean every time I do this the CP USA unleashes a bot campaign against me on Twitter.

Guys, I don't give a fuck.

At this point, I'll just block all of you with a, with a,

with like a fucking bot.

I'll get a fucking bot to just block every single one of you

if you try to harass me on Twitter. So I don't give a fuck at this point.

Word!

Operation Insomnia. No sleep, no sleepover.

So like they can do nothing, right?

They, I don't know. They can't do anything to stop this evil plan.

But, um, how many there are in Long Island?

Oh man, actually I have the list here. I want it's less than a

less than a dozen. See do you guys hear this it's less than because I always have people come and tell me

haze you can't launch an organization there's not enough guerrillas and I'm like do you

think there's a lot of people in CP USA there's not and you know it's really

there's not you guys would be surprised how little people are in this club and then not only that how little people show up to meetings

Exactly how many well about the YCL probably a thousand or how many oh wait. Oh I don't know the national or New York the New York. YCL? Oh, I don't know the national or New York? The New York YCL.

Uh, it's small also. It's all like, I don't know, maybe 50 or something like that.

I don't know, it's pretty small. You you guys here that these guys are paper tigers

I'm just we already we already I already have until I've we are infiltrated the

YCL basically we've real deep in the YCL you know what I suspect I suspect they have a well you know I'm not going to expose

something let me ask I'll stop there I think I know what you're talking about but you know the

other day I just realized like I have more followers on my Twitter than the CPU

USA does it's kind of crazy you know. I have more followers on my Twitter than the CPU as they does.

It's kind of crazy, you know.

I didn't, I never thought about that before, but then I was like,

holy shit, they're actually not big at all.

And it's a super easy takeover at this point, like before it a little harder now. It's going to be a clean sweep and I'll have to basically what the plan is is that

I'm gonna launch this organization as a shadow organization, not as a replacement.

We're not going to replace the CPUSA.

People need to understand that.

We're not going to replace them.

We're going to take over the party.

But there's two forms in which that's going to happen. Basically we're going to be a shadow party

which will simultaneously while growing the shadow party,

growing the name of the communist party

in ways we see fit, puts pressure within the party

to learn from our success basically.

And what's going to happen is that if we think there's any foul play or

unfairness with the upcoming elections.

We are actually going to split the CPUSA, take half of it, all half of its members,

potentially resources, everything, we're gonna split it, and then we're just gonna be the CPUSA. We're literally going to steal their name.

It's not even stealing. They're the ones who stole it and we are going to really

we will be taking that name one way or another. We will be the CPUSA one way or another.

And this is will be the CPUSA one way or another.

And this is something within the next two years

is the timeline, ideally in one year.

That's a crazy, right?

Ideally in one year we take the CP USA, right?

Could be two years though.

But that doesn't mean we're gonna have their headquarters

or any of that.

I mean that that would that's what we want though.

We want to

we really want the name. You know we really want the name. But we will be the

official party. But the organization is not going to be a party at first. That's what I want to clarify. The organization is going to be an action group. It's going to be a shadow party that does acts to grow notoriety and fame in the name of the party. Similar to the Operation Reddonon with our Twitter accounts, we're going to actually have

real chapters doing real work to bring good attention to the party actually, good attention. We're not going to do, we're going to do things that are popular and help people and make people sympathetic and grow clout and fame and educate people and stuff. Strailer's Danny, let's go. And the reason I'm saying that, the things that we're going to do as an organization are going to be pretty uncontroversial

good for the party.

Like we're not going to be hyper-partisan and like have

anti-gay marches or like

some shit like that we're really gonna do is like

objective success even by their own standard

will the rate of non-accounts be part of the new org strategy

sue is i'll give all the new details about that later, but what's going on for now is we're actually

going to be creating the accounts for you guys, but that's going to be a long process to explain.

I'm not going to explain that now.

But basically, the organization is going to bring

goodness popularity and fame to the Communist Party now is it going to direct people to join the

CP USA? No.

Because actually the organization, I don't know what you guys think about this, the focus is not going to be recruitment.

The focus is going to be influence.

Influence over recruitment, right?

When you have influence, recruitment comes naturally.

You get the people that you want, right?

But the main goal is influence, right?

The main goal is clout, fame, controlling the narrative, controlling the discourse, and influence.

And they've already engaged in character assassination against me, but you cannot character

assassinate a fucking blockchain. You can't. It's objective.

It's like you can't fucking fake it. You know what I mean? They can't make these, because I think this is something

Terran is doing. They make these neo-Nazi accounts to slander us that have nothing to do with us.

You can't do this with the technology we're launching. It's going to be foolproof. No foul play. Play.

So, uh...

Yeah, I think, um...

I think the influence over recruiting is a great strategy. I think one of the biggest problems with CPUSA, you know, is that they have no influence. They have no idea how to attract young members, attract people who are serious and passionate

and care about any of this shit,

and they show no interest in learning how to do that.

And recruiting without that,

and I could tell you from firsthand experience, is very difficult.

Yeah, you have to. You don't want to recruit anyway because this is Leninism 101. The party is the elite of the elite. Like Lenin Lenin didn't want to open the doors of the Russian Social Democratic Labor Party

to a wider membership.

That's why the falling out with the Menservix officially happened.

The Menservix wanted all of these people to join the party and

Lenin was like, nope, we don't want that. And that's, it's actually important

that the membership is very well-kept and vetted.

As opposed to now where they just go to colleges and

every single student.

And college students are like really not a...

Not a good one.

You gotta think who's going to join a communist party. It's not going to be like a normal guy. not a

who's gonna join a communist party. It's not gonna be like a normal guy

is that it's gonna be like autistic DSA members that are just joining.

Basically the demographic you want that we expect to recruit are going to be people, young church volunteers in local communities.

That's the same young person that would volunteer for their church and their local community,

that's who we want in the party. We don't want to go and get

college student. I mean they're welcome obviously but the focus is going to be basically

what do I mean by influence? It's like a mass line go to small communities and appraise the issues people care about

raise those issues to the local officials to the city council because remember anyone can speak at the city council

right? Speak at the city council on behalf of people fixing local issues, helping with drug addiction,

all these kind of things. Collaborating with local churches. That's going to be a really important part.

Collaboration with churches. Yeah and that whole thing and that's

that's pretty much what it's going to be about you know. And with the added element of the internet, we are going to be

broadcasting all of this to the world, right, to inspire others

to raise awareness as well. So yeah.

Yeah, you want exuberance and enthusiastic young people who are actually going to go out and do shit, you know, and it's, uh, I wouldn't say it's difficult to find those people but it's more of an issue of trying to get them to be

Exuberant and excited about what you're talking about you know none of those people are interested in communism right now

Or it's the early stages I think.

Hold on, talent sight, don't say a word, don't say a word.

Do you have a voice changer or anything or, because I don't want you to, you know what I mean?

You gotta be careful. Gotta be careful. Let me know. I'll get one. I'll get one.

Whoo! All right, hold on. I don't, I'm gonna mute this. Holy shit. They are gonna do. You're going to get the voice changer and also Tal talent can you please do an accent as well so they

can't like analyze your cadence do do the funniest foreign accent you can think of right

and I'm not I'm not I don't have in mind that a specific

foreign accent that I find really funny but you know this is your opportunity

to be racist literally Chris whole point is to dead end into nothing.

CPUSA has actually been this way since 1957.

Ha may have had some good sides, but it was downhill from there.

When I was in the late 90s, it was the same.

Thank you, Chris. By the way, guys, Chris has a lot of experience,

the history of American communism.

So when he says it, you know, he's saying it's been like this since the 90s, that's deliberate.

They've been deliberately sabotaging the party, you know, for a long time.

But we're going to wait for a talent site in the voice changer and the accent. It's got to be an accent.

Because... Not really it didn't your name specifically didn't come up when they talked about

Pat Sox they you know they put like everybody in that sphere under that umbrella

actually I used to talk about Maupin.

Why did they, why are they so, why does everyone so

fucking obsessed with Caleb?

I don't fucking get it.

Well, he's local to New York, so he knows a bunch of people in the party, personally, and he has history with them.

I think he went to the headquarters and they had some issue there.

That wasn't, that wasn't Caleb, that was another CPI member.

Yeah, I was kidding, right? I don't Caleb, that was another CPI member.

Oh, yeah, I was kidding, right? I don't know.

Yeah, it was some one of those.

But anyway, um, yeah, as I was saying, uh, you know, everybody thinks, everyone thinks that Caleb is like the main thing.

Caleb wants nothing to do with that party, right?

But anyway, what I was gonna say is, oh yeah, were you guys around

when I did the Zoom meeting brigade?

Yeah, that was funny.

Were you like in the Zoom meeting when that happened?

No, like I wasn't in it.

No, unfortunately.

I wish.

That was awesome.

So...

I would have joined it, but that was funny.

What did anyone like talk about it that you heard like after it happened? What were they saying?

No, nobody talked about it actually. I don't think I honestly I don't think that people keep up with that stuff. I don't think anybody watches I don't think anybody watches. I don't think anybody reads people world. I don't think anybody watches. I don't think anybody reads

people world. I don't think anybody watches a good morning revolution. So all

these people in the party like they don't even like gossip about the goings of

that's fucking they're like Twitter people they just talk about what's going on with the left and stuff

They even care about their own party. That's crazy

Well, I think also our club was kind of like inactive when that went down so I don't even think anyone from the long

Island club was in that meeting period or even aware of it maybe why didn't you guys

go to that meeting or what was I'm trying to remember if we even posted about it in the signal group like man there was six months

where nobody was talking like at all like we weren't meeting we weren't communicating

period that's why I tried to hold elections again.

You know, the whole pretense for that was like, hey, the club is dead.

Let's fucking resuscitate it.

Yeah, this, sorry, I don't mean to interrupt, but this is a good question.

Someone in the chat's asking.

Where does the money go for the,

because they make what, 10 million a year?

Where does that fucking go?

That's what we want to know.

No idea.

But I think the head, was it you who said this house? The headquarters was gifted to them by the Vanderbilt's? I don't remember saying that I might

have I might have said that I don't remember. Okay I think it wasn't an old party member.

I don't know where they take the the money I think they funnel it up to the

the state remember now so basically they funnel it up to the state and then the clubs have to ask for the money. Clubs, you're kind of cutting out a little bit, but I heard the clubs have to ask for money to do, and what do they spend it on I don't understand

well we didn't even we didn't even

we've never done anything that required money so I we never got any money from

anyone I mean ten million that's I mean 10 million I mean what you could oh my

God you could throw a fucking Taylor Swift equivalent concert with that money like

with fucking high production value and what's up talent are you there talent can you

please speak in a foreign accent

preferably a really funny one? I was speaking my voice if that's completely fine.

That's completely fine. A very beautiful harmonic voice.

I'd love to see Taren try to decode this one, but anyway,

tell us about what you wanted to discuss.

Okay, so I know that some people have left in a party because it is very depressing to be in the zoo meetings all the time.

I completely understand it is sole crushing work, especially to set up your own clubs and meetings and so forth.

But for the people who are still inside and who have been in it for many years,

I hope that you have been active, because soon this summer yes will be the convention but before the convention begins

They will be a pretty convention discussion

Which means that they will go around to all the clubs and basically people will talk about the issues that they want to be addressed or amended with the constitutional program at the convention in the summer.

And that begins in the winter and the spring and so forth and that can be the

potential place where discussion and debate explicit internal debate this is the

season where internal debate begins they can talk about whoever we need to support the Democrats or we need

to change or orientation toward a more independent line.

Now they will not take you seriously if you are submitting your opinions or so forth because what you can do is you can submit

Opinions and so forth on their website,

CPSA.org by the time the pretty does pretty much

convention debate begins and you can see the old ones for example and they get a pretty

of pretty rough I will say

But again they will not take you seriously if you have not done the work if you were just a guy who has been I don't know annoying or weird or if you not

shown up for anything or if you have not taken initiative on anything they will not listen to you

but if you have people locally who can vouch for you who like you respect you if you are a leader in whatever you do, whether it be a

Starbucks, Trans Barista, organizing, or something better. Like, I don't know if you are connecting

with UPS or whatever, bloody, I don't know, anything, anything that is getting you outside and connecting you with people, whatever that may be.

Even handing out that newspaper, which they have some people do in some places.

You need to be active in order to do that.

If you have been in it for a long time you can get

started now and that might change how they see but you need to be active in order

for your voice to carry any weight. Okay so you guys hear that you have to be

active in the party for your voice to carry any weight. If you're not active, they don't care about

your opinion or anything you have to say. So keep that in mind. You have to be active, you have to be on

the ground somehow sacrificing a pound of flesh in some capacity, and then they might listen to it.

So what are the limits of the issues you're allowed to raise?

Obviously you can't be a Haas supporter, can't be an infrared guy, you can't be a Pat Sox

quote unquote.

But as far as the Democrat debate what do you are there limits to that

debate about supporting Biden or what are you?

Formally speaking within this scope of the pretty convention debate period you can can basically talk about anything. Now of course

informally there are rules in a ticket and so forth that you must follow. So it is unlikely but it has

happened in the past that people submit questions about whether we should

support the Democrats or not and I might add at much less critical junctures

than this especially with what is going on in Palestine especially because well first of all the party has just had a peace

conference in New York and they are very proud about it and they had actually speakers

from the Communist Party of Israel and so forth.

So they are very much trying to navigate this impossible, trying to square this impossible circle

of being pro-Palestine or whatever, although they do support the two-state solution, I might add.

And they have no connections.

They only have connections with the irrelevant parties, as far as I know, in Palestine and Israel.

But seeing as they actually have been growing in Michigan and Detroit and so forth.

They are, it is very critical for those clubs

to be mindful of the positions therein.

I will give an example concretely.

There was a debate maybe a year ago, a month ago, I don't know.

Exactly. And I will not say for my own

protection but in Michigan the club there came between a rock and a hard place

between supporting the Arab communities self-determination locally or supporting whether you cannot kick or get

a grade of pride flags in town hall so there was an Arab town in Michigan or something where exactly yes so the parties

voting numbers of whatever community organizations they many of them either

supported the forcing the pride flags to be flown or they abstain. So they are very much trying to navigate this and they will fall

most likely on the side of LGBT whatever. So is the driving is the increased membership of the Detroit? Who's driving is it Arabs?

Arabs?

I think it's mostly, I will say they have quite strong presence in the auto unions,

but it's mostly young people, black people, young black people, young white white people I have not seen many

Arabs from Michigan in the party as far as I know I would say because if there was I could

I could myself pull some strings to cause complications on that front but you you know I'll refrain but continue continue.

But as far as being anti-Demat or not of course you have to be mindful of what currently

prevails in the party and I will not say it is not universal even among the older

member some people do have questions about whether we should be so supportive of the

Democrats or not I will say that is a minority but it is still there and it is not

nothing of course in respect to democratic centralism they fall in line but if

push comes to shove there might like you said there might be potential to to split not even

among the youth and the old but also the the old members themselves because a lot of them are old Marxist

Leninist Orthodox paper. There's an interesting article research article that

goes into you know who was part of this and that click with Gus Hall or Angela Davis.

Actually Joe Sims and that crowd they were part

of the Gus Hall click against Angela Davis. It is very interesting how they turn but

there are still hardliners that are there and they still Joe Sims and Rosanna are

fairly popular I will say they are very very popular because they have seen this kind of or

overseen this resurgence in the party. I know 8,000 members or whatever. But I would say as far as talking

about Democrats, I would say nudging you know know, like, why, you know, how can we navigate, for example,

I would ask, how can we navigate, you know, being anti-imperialists with supposedly supporting fascism

at home with the Democrats or, you know, supporting what imperialism at home. supposedly supporting

what imperialism at home with the Democrats and what they do around the world.

And I would also probably bring in because they have in the past

and I've heard this meeting, you know people talk about what Trump says about foreign issues.

They say he is talking good and Ukraine and that's a bad thing because that's taking up space

for other people who talk good.

It's a right-wing lane, whatever.

But bringing in the Trump element, it is good because Biden is falling in popularity so there is you know there is more space than we make think I will say

Among these older members is there any sympathy with us or they don't like us either

Explicity I have no idea because I've never already brought us up, but I will say, you know, as far as guerrillas that are in the party that I know coincidentally, they, we do, and me personally personally I have good connections and good relations with many of the older members

Many of the members who have been in the party for decades decades

Hold that thought apparently we're having some stream. I don't want this to go unheard. Let me see what the fuck the problem is. This is kind of annoying.

Suspicious maybe.

But probably bringing in because they have in the past

and I've heard this meeting, you know people talk about what Trump says about foreign issues.

They say he is talking good and Ukraine and that's a bad thing because that's taking up space for other people who talk good.

Okay, that was the thing. We're back. How fucking delayed is it? That was the thing.

We're back. Okay, we're back. Okay. That's fucking crazy how much we got

throttled. And continue what you were saying because we got really

fucking throttled. So, oh I will continue as far as the guerrillas who tend to

have the most normal most

pro-social most friendly and interesting demeanors in the party compared to some of

the freaks were in and yes I will not exaggerate when I call them freaks they're

very strange people very annoying to be around. They smell sometimes it is bloody terrible but

yes we you know we get a long rate with the other members of course explicitly

We do not talk about the

you know the experience even that I will say I've heard from many older members in

conversation come up to me and talk about you know the experience of the sons of

liberty or the patriotic lessons of a revolution in the United States

and so forth. So there is a, you know, it is not a lonely area.

And I will say also there are many older members, more orthodox, Marxist Leninists who use that language.

And they get into squabbles with some of the more feminine so forth.

So we have to make allies among these older members.

This is what I'm gathering.

Are they enough to

mount a

you know uh... a counter movement within the party as far as drawing legitimacy and

so on because we really need to be doing

is organizing a new poll of leadership around these older members and basically having

a new poll not a faction but a poll right and is there any work that's been done on that first one I'm hearing

that the music voice was getting annoying is this better can is this

indissotible yeah that's really good that That's fine. Okay, okay. So I will say, obviously the older members very deeply respect. They love the party. They've been into their entire lives. They are red diaper babies.per babies in many cases.

You know will they go against the party when push comes to shove no I doubt it.

But can they be used as a potential avenue to exacerbate tensions and whatever yes I think so now of

course many of them are friends with those of leadership so you know to whatever

personal or political disagreements they have they do not it personally if they still like them perfectly fine.

On, give that a pause. The fucking stream just effed again.

Ones if you can hear this guys.

Yo, how's I had it go all right good night. See you later man see you.

Yeah man I got a duck out too.

Thanks for having me on.

No problem see you.

Stream crashed I can't fucking believe this. too. Thanks for having me on. No problem. See you.

Stream crashed.

I can't fucking believe this.

We are actually getting throttled by the feds, by the way, like legit, every time this happens.

Yeah, every time this fucking happens. Like, I'm not even kidding. Every time we like go on a touchy subject, the feds come and like fuck up the stream. I can't fucking believe it.

The circuit board. Yeah, that's really good. Hold on.

Um, we've caught up a little bit, but we still haven't caught up.

Um...

We've lost a fuck ton of you.

Holy shit.

Um, so I was... We've lost a fuck ton of you worse holy shit

So I'll see

All right. It's not caught up

So the older member

Of the party to enter. Let's wait. I'm going to. Right, it's not caught up.

No, we're not, hold on.

I have to see.

Hello? Hello?

Hold don't say anything. Hello?

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All right, we're back?

We're back.

Are we back?

Let me see.

Let me see.

We're close.

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Hello. Hello.

No.

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No. Hello? Let me see. We're close. It's kind of...

Oh, don't say anything.

Holy shit, it's like...

It's like 40 seconds behind. It's like 40 seconds behind.

It's like 40 seconds.

All right, we're back, we're officially back.

We're actually fucking back.

All right guys, I don't know, like every time this shit happens,

like every time we touch upon subjects like this, this is what fucking happens.

So straight up some glowy fed shit going on right?

Anyway, continue Talon

Go ahead ones guys if you got you can hear this go ahead and continue this shit is crazy

Yes very suspicious I would you can hear this go ahead and continue this shit is crazy well yes very

suspicious I would say my advice is to get active that will make the older

members respect you that will give you an in you can visit them talk to them have lunch

whatever and that way if you can be friends.

And that way, if you raise issues, they will take you seriously and they will consider them,

and maybe you can convince them to take issues that are maybe not directly

anti-Democrat or whatever, but can be proxies for it. A lot of the work

that the party does locally is collect signatures for Democrat legislation or

Democrat vote get out of vote whatever. So be active and be friendly, is my advice.

All right, see you later, it's Alan.

Thank you.

Thank you very much.

All right, guys, this stream just got fucked up.

I'm sorry, like all the viewers, not all the viewers. Sorry you guys are still here appreciate it guys

But at the same time

Too many viewers left is what I mean to say too many viewers left and the problem with that is that we we need to you know what I mean like

you guys should be rewarded for sticking around but but it, yeah, and people got kicked.

This was really fucked up that this happened.

I got, people are coming back

i'll give it a chance guys

i'll give it a chance

i'll give it a chance

we're gonna watch alx jones and jackson

okay we're gonna give it a chance.

But let's just...

We'll give it a chance, all right?

We'll give it a chance.

We'll give people a chance to come back.

That was really fucked up, how the feds throttled me and shit.

Whatever. how the feds throttled me and shit whatever.

Alternative either side keep on. So Jackson Hinkle's right the modern political system is Troxyite in America

they even admit that at Harvard and Chicago Business School.

It's not a debate.

Absolute power, absolute control.

I would even call it communism, just Luciferianism.

But I don't agree with communism being a model because it always has state planning and creates the same thing.

What we have today is not capitalism.

It's just a piratical looting system that's at war with the people.

So I don't disagree with what he's saying is wrong.

But let's just do this.

Tell us about yourself, because you, I've known about you for a while you've exploded you're everywhere

You're reaching tens of millions probably a day now and and and what what's your political awakening and then give us your view

geopolitically about where the world is president Trump these prosecutions just all of it.

Yeah, like I said, I've been a big fan of you for a while and I'm so happy to be on your show. You're clearly, you know, the leading ally against the globalist deep state that I think

every American should look to.

When it comes to my trajectory the the US and UK funded dirty war in Syria is really what woke me up

The man is going on in the world I mean you had Jake Sullivan emailing Hillary Clinton saying al- Qaeda is on our side in Syria.

That's insane. They just wanted to take out Bashar al-Assad and steal his oil.

And what I think is continued to unfold since that dirty war was really uncovered

and what Israel in the United States and the UK were doing

there is that the world is changing in a really beautiful way.

The new world order that Joe Biden claims to want to usher in is failing.

The world economic form is failing.

Instead what we're getting is a multi-polar world,

where for the first time, the unipolar power,

that is the United States, that is Wall Street,

that is the city of London, for example,

is falling, and it's being challenged both in military and economic might and

culturally I might add by countries like Russia and China and now other nations

like Iran which just joined the bricks grouping so I'm hopeful for the future but I'm very

worried that our current leadership is going to fight them rather than seek to build peace and relations and in you know business rapport with the bricks grouping and that's gonna end up having huge consequences for the American working class.

We're going to lose the dollar, we're going to lose all of the main things.

I want to hear that. I mean, I agree with you. So how will we get out of it? First, tell us about yourself.

Why, as you said earlier, I'm an anti-Imperialist, Marxist-Leninistist Marxist Leninist and I'm a strong supporter of the

Maga movement I stand with Russia stand with America stand with trying to stand with all these

nations and our people and I think we need to fight the deep state but when you're like a communist

nationalist populist. I guess yeah those those labels do apply and a strong

patriot 100 percent like I said my my ancestors sailed here on the Mayflower

I'm proud of it I'm not one of these crazy lefties that wants to tear down statues or anything like that.

That's amazing. Who are you related on your maternal or paternal side or both?

Jackson's asking, I mean, I'm my father's side. I'm related to the individual who wrote

the Mayflower compact and he was the religious leader on the Mayflower.

So it's a long history and I think we should be proud of what our country's done and we shouldn't nuke it all and we're allowing these neo-con globalists to nuke our country right before a very eye.

So your question was what do we need to do as an American population?

Well I think Trump is the only candidate right now who's actually working to build global

peace.

He met with Kim Jong-un.

He loves Xi Jinping. He loves Putin. He had great relations with all these

leaders and that's why the globalist deep state at the end of the day really hated him.

Well, how do you expect, because you've been a big critic of Israel, how definitely Israel's walked into a trap or knows they are in the West, the U.S. is funding this,

where do you see this attempt, or do you see as an attempt to trigger a holy war?

I think that it's not so much an attempt to trigger a holy war.

I think you can look at the geopolitical dimensions of this and recognize that the Arab

states are worried about, you know, economic interests on their end.

They're worried about losing the normalization of Israeli ties.

And when it comes to the Palestinians in Hamas,

they just want Israel to be gone.

And personally, I think if the US stopped funding is Israel which I think we should

I don't think we should give a single penny to Israel Israel would cease to exist.

The one thing I'm confused about when it comes to Alex Jones is I don't know why he takes a pro Israel position that really confuses me I'm not I really don't

It's like it doesn't seem I don't know if it's like he has to or like what that is but you know you have to understand something out he's in really big legal trouble they

really got him the deep state got him and you know he might have to take positions

just because you not because he wants to.

It, ones if you can fucking hear this, ones if you can hear this.

Holy fuck, we are so far behind.

This is fucking crazy Yeah.