NATO's War for Your Mind

yo what up everybody

so listen up um

first things first guys why am i so

fucking late right

why am i so fucking late

um

the reason is pretty simple actually

it's that i didn't get any sleep

uh well i did i got like five hours

um

and it's it's like my insomnia is back

and you know i took so i've been using

edibles as a solution to that and i

don't i'm not gonna take them anymore

i'm not taking edibles as a solution to

this

because they actually fuck with my

um ability to sleep

pretty significantly actually they work

for the first few days and then after a

few days

they really fuck like i wake up

um

yeah it just fucks with your sister i

don't even know what to call it right it

fucks with your nervous system whatever

the fuck

the

brain it gives me schizophrenia i don't

know

um

it really has this effect on your nerves

that's really frightening where it's

like

just feel weaker right and you just feel

like you let you have less willpower

and

going cold turkey off of that uh that

those edibles for me is just a way to

kind of get back to my equilibrium

and

it's kind of funny i'm talking about

this because it's 420 it's 420

right so but fuck 420 fuck marijuana

fuck edibles and uh we're not i don't do

that shit i don't do that edible right

we don't do that shit we don't do that

shit anyway

i am

really fucking my career up really badly

because of insomnia so today's stream is

not going to be long

at all like this oh happy birthday

jennifer

happy birthday jennifer

jennifer's an og and you were here last

time for your last birthday too so

yeah

but um

everybody wish jennifer a happy birthday

been an og from for uh

viewer from like the very beginning from

the very first stream so uh there's that

anyway um

i've really had a frustrating day i've

been i've i had a really really

frustrating fucking day so like i woke

up at 5 00 p.m

with barely so let me tell you this it's

such a nightmare i went to bed at 3 00

a.m

and i couldn't sleep until 9am

and i woke up

at 2

and i tried to sleep for like three more

hours i got out of bed at five

because it's clear i couldn't fucking

sleep

and it's been a nightmare it's been a

total fucking nightmare

and i haven't had time to do anything

like i haven't had time to edit my

videos or anything like that so you know

uh

it's really tough right if i overcome

this fucking sleep

problem

we're gonna be back in business okay i

just gotta overcome this fucking sleep

issue

and as soon as i start waking up at 12

p.m again

or 1 pm even fuck

it know it's it's i'll be back in full

effect because i don't know guys

it's really like scary it's a scary time

for me right now because uh again like

this is a

it's it's so crazy if you just took all

any semblance of security was financial

security was like taken by you know the

twitch ban so it's like now i gotta work

my way up

um

back up again

and you know it's really dangerous for

me to do things like what i've been

doing which is like

streaming way later than i'm you than i

used to and then not doing any youtube

content not grinding to youtube

not grinding with i just it really

fucking pisses me off how i go to bed at

3 a.m

and then

it's not like i could just wake up at 10

because i was sleep deprived yesterday

too i just want to talk about it so it's

like i have this issue where for like

seven hours it's just time being wasted

and it's not like i could use that seven

hours productively because my brain

doesn't even fucking work

in that time right

so this is a really fucked up situation

i'm in

it's really fucked up

super frustrating

but yeah but

you know i'm gonna

i think i do have a uh

i'm optimistic that i'll solve this

insomnia shit

but tomorrow i mean it's like it what

kills me is that like i'll get three

hours of sleep and then i'm like okay

i'll for sure be knocked out tomorrow

it's like no i get another three hours

yeah what point does my body rest you

know

i don't know

but uh let me tell you guys something

i'm actually going to uh speaking of the

devil

so tomorrow i'm doing the last exercise

of the the week right for me so if if

things don't go well i'm gonna pull an

all-nighter through friday to reset it

if it doesn't work that's like my game

plan

because i'm gonna just force

through this shit i can't really play

around right

i gotta fucking pay bills you know

it is fucked up

but uh all that aside you know i'm

really liking the youtube i was thinking

about it i really like the youtube i

don't really like i mean i know the

viewers are way less than twitch

but i don't care i like this way better

i just like the youtube better i like

streaming to youtube better

um

so yeah i really you know

i'm looking forward to what we're gonna

accomplish

through the next i mean unless something

fucking happens right uh odyssey reached

out to me

so it's like if the youtube gets sniped

i'll go to odyssey and i'll go to rumble

but i don't even know i don't know if i

can make a living off of that we'll see

um

yeah we'll see right

honestly the patreon is like the best

thing the the patreon is like

let me tell you guys something if i

could make at least 5k on the patreon i

won't even need super chats right

and

that will literally just

don't don't

it's not it's not you right it's me i

gotta grind this shit and grow more

you guys have given me a fuck ton of

money on that patreon it's insane and i

want to actually take this opportunity

to thank

and there's there's there's like over

100 people so i can't lit name everyone

but

i mean you guys have been so so generous

uh with that patreon it is insane it

makes me so

grateful to this community right and you

know i i it's like what other streamer

gets that much support you know i mean

some of you guys

you know any donation i appreciate a

fuck ton right but the the people who go

above and beyond like i don't even know

how to thank you like i created two

tiers for the patreon because i want to

be more egalitarian you know the five

dollar one and then the 15 one

but like there's there's someone who is

donating 200 dollars

and it's like i i kind of feel guilty

not giving you more

for that

what i mean like i don't know

because there are people that just go

above and beyond right

and uh

when i'm a little more secure it's gonna

be less like you know i want the tier to

be more accessible i don't five

i don't i didn't i was having trouble

like deciding is five a little too much

uh because most patreon tiers you know

some start at one dollar some started

three dollars

uh but what i was thinking with that is

like if you can't afford the patreon

just do a super chat you know or if you

want to contribute something and you

can't afford like the five dollar tier

one

you know you may as well just do a super

chat because you'll get something out of

it you'll be able to have the

text-to-speech thing and then you know

you'll go

you'll get something for your money

right

but um

no i don't think i'm gonna add a cheaper

tier because right now the tiers don't

come with that many benefits

uh i plan on releasing the q a podcast

on sunday where i'm gonna go through all

of your questions and answer them right

on sunday

and um

that's gonna be fun and i'm gonna try to

make it interesting for you guys

i'm not gonna have a lot of time to like

talk about

anything else because i'm going to just

be answering you guys's questions but

i hope you guys find it interesting

right

and um

here's here's something i want to i

don't know i don't know if this is wise

to do but

i might have a thing i haven't decided

this yet where it's like okay after a

week you can post the podcast on youtube

but

i don't know i mean until i decide

obviously don't post the podcast

anywhere because one of the ways it's

like yeah you have to pay to that i

don't i don't see i don't really like

but one of the reasons the patreon

doesn't have that much

exclusive content

is i really don't like

having paywalls like to the content

i really i'd really rather have it be

where it's like

people donate because they just want

more content to be publicly available

and yeah i don't really like having to

pay like for example i was thinking

about should i pay while writings for

the sub stack

and no i'm not going to do that i'm not

going to pay wall any of the writings i

release i'm just going to release them

to the public and then

one of the other things we're doing and

i

fuck i keep forgetting to post them

is we're gonna post our scripts for

infrared vision videos onto the patreon

uh so you'll be able to see the scripts

that for unreleased videos but you know

for as far as writings are concerned or

video content is concerned we're not

going to make a walls the one paywall

we're going to have is a q a podcast

where i basically just answer your

questions and you might ask like okay

what's the difference between that in a

super chat well in a podcast i get to

sit down and like take my time with your

question i don't have to rush and just

be like

whatever like i'll

the podcast might be like three hours

long right i don't fucking know um it

obviously can't be that long but let's

see a hundred

let's say i only spent two minutes per

question

then

yeah it's gonna be a long time okay it's

gonna be a long time sunday may there

may not even be a stream sunday because

i'm gonna do that q a podcast

uh but um

yeah

but um i wanna i wanna talk about some

goals

so i don't know how ambitious this is

and i'm not really banking on it but

i think by june 20th

which is the start of the summer

is this too cocky just yeah i think it's

a little too cocky

i want to be 20k subscribers on youtube

it's a little cocky but

i don't know i don't know if we can make

that but um

that would be definitely a a big

big mark of success if we could do that

right get to 20k subs

but um

because that's i mean that's just where

i was at on twitch i just want to be

where i was on twitch

so

that's some shit i'm gonna have to work

for

but i'm hoping my russian cosmism video

comes out before then and i want this

video to like spread

and be very big the russian cosmic also

there's a video in the works another

infrared vision video that's in the

works right now i'll post the script

pretty soon

and it's actually about uh american um

christianity and it's about the great

awakenings

it's about the great awakenings right

and it was written by luca and actually

luca was with us

you guys saw him he was with us in

austin

and he was uh recording it in austin

right

he already recorded the voice they're

just adding more content and shit to it

but um

guys our last infrared vision video kind

of bombed we gotta push this one so let

me tell you all something

this is the decree of the sultan i'm

gonna give a sultan's decree for our

next infrared vision video

this shit's gotta be minimum 20k

views

and if it doesn't get a minimum of 20

000 views

i am banning a random assortment

of 37 people

37 people will be banned

actually no that's way too harsh

100 people will be banned

100 random people will be banned

so i'm not playing around it could be

you and i don't care who you are

i don't care who you are

all right

even a show runner could give i'm

kidding that's

also there's like a new

dynamic in the discord that's kind of

troubling me it's like

there's a new level of inequality so so

our discord has always been very simple

with our badges for like members

not badges they're called uh with the

roles we've always been like members

heroes mods and show runners we added a

fifth one for patreons

for elite benefactors

but it's like

how do can we can we ban an elite

benefactor

it's like

you gave me 15 so you earn the right i'm

just kidding but

guys follow the rules if you're an elite

benefactor be a trendsetter please

because i don't want to have to fucking

ban you i'll feel so bad

i'll feel so so fucking dead

i'll feel so so fucking bad

um

yeah

i don't really want to add more roles

beyond that one

and it was actually a big decision

choosing but the only reason i did this

is like i got to give you some reward

for this because i just don't have much

to give you right now

exclusively right but we are working on

the igg chat which when i start

averaging 600 average viewers on youtube

i'm gonna start migrating over to the

igg chat and exclusively read the idg

chat

plus super chats

um so that's going to be something

that's coming

uh

and speaking of super chats there's

actually been a bunch of people sent in

let me read those super chats thank you

many dog appreciate you would you bring

back the infrared podcast with the other

members of the infrared collective

that is uh possible

but so the thing about that is that yeah

that's very possible but the the there

is an upcoming podcast that's going to

be on a third channel

sorry not a third like a different

channel right its own independent

channel and it's going to be a uh

it's going to be me samira and jackson

it's gonna be a podcast i think podcasts

in general are fucking boring right

but

yeah

so yeah

thank you sam you're the only person i

trust on any platform thanks for all you

do will you ever do more theory streams

lectures

oh of course yeah i mean i think the the

kind of format i want for our show

i want to turn this more into a show

actually but um i want to actually kind

of talk about theory related things

not too much but just kind of like i

want to get you thinking i want i want i

want there to be an element of thought

to this because twitch was a pretty like

thoughtless fucking um

platform

and

i actually want there to be more like

mental stimulation

when we

start out our stream so i actually plan

on talking about something before i get

into the thing about

uh the cy wars conducted by nato right

so yeah

thank you sean appreciate it make

reading list please

um

you gotta start reading alexander kojev

i mean yeah you really gotta read that

guy

alexander kojev if you wanna understand

in i don't even know how to think about

marxism

outside of kojev if you're if you're a

marxist

but it's not through kojev and you live

in like america

and you're like you'd claim to know

anything about theory like i look at you

like a literal fucking dumbass like i

look at you like you're a chimpanzee i

don't i don't see you as human

if you call yourself a marxist

and it's not based on a kojev lens

i don't even like you're like a fucking

you're like a primitive

you're like fucking

you're like an archaic human i don't

even know what the fuck to call you

right

oh i'm a marxist so what we believe is

that

workers are having their labor stolen

and

their surplus value is the unpaid

to the workers cooperative

and marx was basically shut the fuck up

man i don't know what are you even

saying

what is your deal how do you even have

any holistic view of history and any

like what do you you know i don't i

don't fucking know where you're coming

from with that right

holy fuck

being a wage slave sucks and i don't

want you to have to sell your time to a

company to pay the bills have you

considered streaming the odyssey cozy

etc at the same time infrared is a

spectrum of light your content should be

on all spectrums thank you anonymous

appreciate you

appreciate you so much

um i'm gonna i appreciate you so so much

but i'm actually going to i'm going to

talk about that right

because

thank you based griper i found you

through nick

tv do you have any thoughts of america

first so i'll do two two birds and one

stone so one of the reasons i don't plan

on multi streaming to cozy is because

that is a very specific community i

think on cozy i i want to get to know it

a little more because it's a very

specific community

and you guys can correct me if i'm wrong

but i feel like that's one of the

communities where it's like

there's a lot of judgment when it comes

to your personality like

you know if you're not if you're like uh

i think i was told by someone they were

like has you know your

interaction with egos and shit like

they're gonna tear you up on cozy they

don't want you there they don't so i

don't know i don't i don't really want

to like

i don't want

i'm gonna just be honest because

it's probably not smart to say this but

i'll just say it anyway because i have a

big mouth whatever

one of the things i'm scared about when

it comes to streaming on cozy a little

bit

in terms of multi streaming is like i

don't want obsessive

haters right

i just want i i don't know i just like

it's kind of scary honestly it's a

little scary like if it's best for an

audience to be more chill

but when i don't i'm not saying they're

like that

it's just that i came from a very

when i first started out streaming i'll

put it this way i first started out

streaming

and

you know there was this like image board

that started coming in my chat

and they told me to you know oh look

look on this image board and react to

what people are saying and you should to

this day those people are still like

really crazy

obsessive fucking

stalker whatever fucking people so it's

like i don't really want all that

negativity i don't really need that

negative negativity in general right and

i feel like when it comes to people with

extremist views in general um

there's just a lot of like yeah it's

like the riddler people right

and i'm not singling out cozy

specifically

uh in that community i'm talking about

every single like marginal community on

the internet whatever it fucking is

right i i kind of want to be as

mainstream as possible that i can right

but that's not to say i'm not going to

be streaming on cozy ever it's just that

it's gonna be for very specific stuff

uh

also things like debates and

specifically when i want to like

interact with that community

specifically and yeah but

you know i just

i don't want to like

you know cause a big fucking problem and

i don't like the drama stuff right

i really don't like drama i don't like

negativity being thrusted on me i don't

like fucking needless bullshit i'm just

you know

trying to keep this as

sane as possible i'm trying to maintain

as much sanity as i can and we can

while we're entering into this like new

stage

of the internet

um

no now i'm not really scared of those

guys maybe i'm wrong but i think those

people don't really interact with

you

they don't like they have like a

hands-off policy where they're not

actually gonna like bother you they're

just gonna like

talk shit about you where it's i you

know that's fine i don't really care

i don't really mind if people just

you just talk shit up i don't really

care about that it's like

when people start to get like really

obsessive and shit it's like okay i

don't

that's not what i signed up for

it's

i really want the internet to be

something that like

in my ideal world

the more content you get from someone

the more you should distance yourself

when i say distance yourself i mean like

recognize the gulf between them and you

but there's some people that like they

want to close the gap so as much as

possible to the point where like you

know they literally want to like start

smelling you and they just want to get

so fucking close to you and it's like

dude i'm a totally different person than

you okay

uh rumble definitely because rumble is

funded by peter thiel and

you know the way this world is it's like

billionaires versus billionaires right

so yeah rumble to me has a lot more

promise definitely

thank you anonymous holy fuck

i understand the fear of the cozy brand

but that's how i found you and many

others i think it's a market that you

should tap even if you have to

tentatively

thank you

contest is a self-proclaimed incel he

also doesn't read the only good thing

with af is that they aren't terminally

online and do stuff for all

okay so mr anonymous um

yeah i'm not writing off the people at

cosi i know there's uh

i definitely don't think that you know

everybody over there are like crazy

degens or anything like that i know a

lot of those people are like you know

don't yeah i i'm aware of like the

differences

as far as like different trends on the

internet so

the people over at cozy are not

particularly that like

evil right

definitely not on the same level of left

as leftists

in my uh experience

but um

yeah yeah i'll definitely be streaming

there

sometimes to interact but it's like i do

want people to be aware

that infrared is its own thing right

we are marxist lenin this year

we're a communist with a capital c here

and there's a lot of

ideological differences right

um and that's like

we're not right-wingers right we are in

a way you know

left-wing in some sense right

so you got to keep that in mind

um

it's just that i i do believe in

something called put humanity first

right but you know i got a lot of

disagreements with the cozy

i don't call it the cozy community i

have disagreements with america first

america first has disagreements with me

but

i just want

to call i want to foster more of an

environment on the internet

specifically at the american internet of

like

having a a primal sense of humanity

right where you could just be like a

normal fucking person

who disagrees

i don't know

i want to have a thing where it's like

yeah you can be different ideologically

but you still have an underlying sense

of humanity and speak of the devil i

don't want to comment too much but

you know um the internet's getting so

much more vicious it's getting so much

more savage and it's getting so much

more inhumane right

there's like it's getting so fucking

like

holy shit it's like

i just see

you know on twitter i saw that thing

where they were you know celebrating

that kid's suicide and it's like jesus

fucking christ over ideology it's like

it's pretty fucking crazy right so i

don't wanna

i think everyone's gonna lose their

fucking mind going forward right

and

yeah

yeah um

it's pretty fucking crazy right

and uh as far as um

yeah many dog i don't know if i agree

with that stuff uh i i have this thing

where i don't really look people up and

try to like

i'll take someone what they tell me

i'll talk to them myself right i don't

really trust

like when it comes to the fuentes guy

yeah i've heard a lot of stuff

about his really bad things views he

said i just don't know what to trust

anymore so it's like the only thing i'll

trust really is like i'll i'll talk to

them myself and you know

i'll pretty much take people at face

value

uh i'm not really concerned about like

oh are people lying to me about their

views i don't really give a fuck like

whatever you say in public is all that

matters to me i don't really care about

like what's going on privately and i did

talk to uh nick fuentes i talked to him

myself

and

from the conversation we had you know a

lot of the things people that i've heard

about him just weren't

reflected right i didn't

it wasn't really reflected on me that

this is like a really hateful

person and he he he doesn't strike me as

like oh he's a white national side well

from the conversation we had it's not

really my impression right

um

yeah it seems like he was pretty

reasonable

i mean even if there's disagreements

seemed pretty reasonable to me right

and you could say oh it's just a front i

don't really care i don't care i mean i

i don't i don't have time i don't have

time i'm gonna take people afterward i'm

just gonna take people at their word i

don't give a fuck about anything else

right

and vice versa right

um

another thing too is that i am a guy

who's like

uh i'm like a boomer i'm like 25 years

old and balding

so the culture is not really uh

that just the age gap

by itself is kind of like

too much

but uh yeah that's really all i have to

say about that

i think there was a chinese uh caller

who came yesterday he's like yeah you

americans you focus too much on labels

and there's a an extent to which i

really believe that i really do think

americans focus way too fucking much on

labels

and it's like you know i i don't

ideology uh ideological differences are

not

enough to

make someone an enemy so carl schmidt

has this thing where he's like

the basic political political

distinction is between friend and enemy

but yeah but ideology isn't the same

thing as politics sorry you can be

whatever fucking ideology you want but

as long as you're not a shill for the

republican or democratic establishments

like we're pretty much all in the same

boat you know

if you're willing to take them on and

challenge them like in any capacity

we're pretty much all in the same boat

it doesn't really fucking matter what

ideology it's kind of like in china when

japan invaded china and there was like

that japanese imperialism like yeah you

could be a communist you could be part

of the kmt it doesn't fucking matter if

you are resisting japanese foreign

aggression

you're all in the same fucking boat

right

and that's an ex that's really an

example of that right

but um

it's pretty you know what's really crazy

to me is that

there's so much more

i feel like there's way more

infiltration

on the right wing

and the left and the reason for that is

because the left is already mostly just

like a pet project

of the state department right

whereas like the right i feel like the

fbi does a lot of crazy dirty shit with

the right wing right

thank you jay appreciate you so much

black shirts of neoliberalism i agree

that's a pretty good description if you

ask me

i fully agree with that

but um

yeah what i'm trying to say here and

this is kind of something i wanted to

talk about

um

you know

i've been thinking about something a lot

i've been thinking about the internet

and shame humiliation embarrassment

and shame

and i've been thinking about how like

just by virtue of being a public

figure it's almost seems like you're

bound to have your image tarnished

like you're gonna fall from grace just

like an elden ring you're gonna have

your image tarnished and all of us have

our image tarnished in some kind of way

like hassan

the socialist millionaire with this

three million dollar house and then

bosch it's wow there's a lot there

and then

you could you could also be like destiny

right where you're just like my image

won't be tarnished because like

i already have nothing to be ashamed of

i have no sense of shame whatsoever so

it's like at least you're consistent

then right so

that's something um

i thought about i've been thinking about

a lot in the past few days

because you know there's a lot of kind

of embarrassing things associated with

me let's face it right it like if if you

let's say you're just like some

marxist serious thinker in china and you

look up has infrared

and like you just like find a gif of me

dancing on stream or some silly shit

and it's almost like yeah there's just

this kind of thing where it's like you

go public on the internet

and

you know i'm not like g i'm not like

stalin where it's like i have this

intact serious image i'm kind of like a

silly guy who's you know gotten a lot of

there's just some things that are

associated with my image

that can i could really see prevent

people taking me that seriously right

but it's pretty it's kind of weird on

the american this is something i was

thinking about right

and um

i want you guys to think about this too

because i think it's important and it

was kind of like a light bulb moment for

me right

so well it's not i've come to this

conclusion before but it's like a lot of

the things that i've a lot of the like

um conclusions i've arrived at years ago

i forgot about right so this reminded me

of something i've always

held which is that

you know on the american internet you're

either perfect and you're like have this

untarnished image

i'm gonna give you variance of how it

works right and trust me i'm not going

on a tangent sucking my own cock and

talking about myself you're gonna

actually get some wisdom

from this right

so

there's the alienation aspect so if

you're a celebrity

and or if you're like a politician if

you're like xi jinping right or if

you're like beyonce

you are so detached from

proximity to the public that it's really

hard for you to ever be embarrassed by

anything right you're always gonna

have this intact image by virtue

alienation right

and then there's also another type of

person where it's like

um

the opposite end of that is like chris

chan where it's like every your hole

into every mention of your name is just

like you're completely

fallen from grace in every possible

respect

to the point where it's like

you are a joke you are nothing more than

a fucking joke right and then

most people fall somewhere in between

those two

like xi jinping and chris chan most all

in between that

and to me what i find a little um

strange is that

we kind of have this uniquely like

protestant and calvinistic

obsession

with that little smidge that little

imperfection

that

this allows our image to be intact it's

that thing that kind of humiliates us or

embarrasses us that people focus on and

latch on to that kind of like prevents

you from being taken seriously like

turns you into some kind of fucking joke

right and that is really shame it's the

ability to shame another right to see

their shame

and

when you think about it like that it's

like what is shame right shame is some

type of vulnerability right if let's say

i would let's say i was like the leader

of

uh communist america in 2056 or some

shit i was giving a large speech and

then my pants fall off and i have

heart-shaped underwear right it's shame

i've just got

total shame

or

if you want to go um

to antiquity right

like ancient greece or something then

shame or not not just that but like you

know

any kind of traditional

culture

ancient culture whatever mythos it's

kind of like shame is the woman's breast

right

they'll say like in order to conceal her

shame

so at a certain level shame is

this kind of time lag

between our bit our ability to project

the ideal of ourself

uh and our actual self in all of our

full contingency right

and

protestantism and calvinism in

particular has this kind of unique

focus on this primordial shame of

humanity in the form of our original sin

right

um zizek put it this way and i read it

to you on stream is like in in it with

martin luther right with protestantism

we have this thing where it's like

humanity is born out of the

what is it

out of the anus of being right it's like

we are we we have this excremental

existence where our very entrance into

this world is marked by some kind of

primordial shame or

you know

imperfection somehow right after put it

in a much less uh loaded language

so um

what's specifically interesting about

that right is that

um

i think all cultures recognize an

inherent shame in in human beings

but what's really weird about the

american internet at least right

compared to like you know chinese or

japanese

korean or whatever asian i guess or

maybe middle eastern i don't fucking

know what dynamics for

middle eastern social media is

you're killing viewership i don't i

don't care if i have something to say

that i think people hear

i'm gonna talk about that i'm not gonna

like talk about what people want to hear

right

um i'm gonna talk about what i think

people need

right

um anyway speaking of i'm gonna blow my

nose give me a second

all right

so basically most cultures do have an

understanding

fuck i just got shit in my throat fuck

most cultures in history and and today

do have an understanding of the fact

that we are not gods

we're not like

perfect

ideals of what a human being is we're

human beings that all the imperfection

that entails

but there isn't this specific type of

fixation right

there isn't this type of like specific

fixation

on

um

there isn't this type of speci

god fucking damn it there's like shit in

my throat give me a fucking second

i can't even talk man

fucking frustrating

all right

there isn't this specific fixation on

the fact that you have this like

discontinuity in this projection of an

ideal self and when i to translate that

into the english language right

when you point out for example in like

some you know non-calvinist culture i

guess right that okay

this person has an imperfection

well okay there's two ways of looking at

it right let's say you're like

let's say you have the emperor let's do

the example of the emperor with no

clothes

okay in an older culture if you catch

the emperor taking a shit or a dump

you turn away and you're like oh my bad

right

and that's it

and

the grandeur of the image of the emperor

is somehow intact

because that's a given the emperor takes

shit it's just like you don't talk about

that because we have this

acknowledgement

that we're imperfect human beings and we

have this sense of privacy right

but i feel like with with calvinistic

kind of protestant culture

if you catch the emperor taking a shit

you're like oh my god caught in 4k and

the clip goes viral and like everyone's

going crazy over it it's like i can't

believe the emperor takes dumps look

what an embarrassment this is a complete

fool and like he's totally humiliated

right

and i think when it when it comes to

being an online personality

in any capacity who like

spends a great deal in esp let's just

say a live streamer because if you're

like a video essayist then it won't

necessarily happen to you

uh although i think it does to a certain

of popularity it will right

that's true for like every streamer

right

and

if you want to think about shame

right and what we're talking about when

it comes to like this shame thing

um

you can also look to the example

of

in addition to protestant whatever

calvinistic kind of

theology right with like the original

sin and stuff you could think about it

too in terms of democracy right

liberal democracy and liberalism so what

what is the point of democracy and

liberalism it's that we had a monarchy

and somehow the king

and the sovereign

was caught taking a dump right they they

betrayed our trust

somehow and they did something that

so

radically differed from our expectation

and um

our image that of them that we had

that we could no longer trust

monarchy in general we have to institute

checks and balances and liberal kind of

statehood

modern statehood in general the same is

also true by the way for modern science

right we found out we were totally

humiliated by

you want to talk about um

you know the the the the let's just call

it the medieval

medieval um

theology's two whole moment

right

was

when they found out that um

we

rotate the sun and the

the um

the uh what do you call them fuck

what do you the the

the planets and the other what do you

what if what am i what am i looking for

the bodies right

what is the fucking word

the celestial bodies sorry i don't i got

like three hours of sleep yeah the

celestial bodies

do not rotate the earth

we are not in the middle of the whole

thing

that is a type of complete humiliation

of our expectation of like our sense of

ego right there's this idea i read from

zizek before which is like which he was

reading another idea from someone else

basically this idea that the the

progress of modern science is this kind

of continual humiliation of man's ego

right like we find out that we're not at

the center of the universe and then we

also find out with with darwin right

that actually we're not um

you know

we're not like the pinnacle of creation

we came from monkeys or whatever it's

totally contingent

and then you know

beyond that i i guess einsteinian

physics is another example of that with

special relativity which basically

like deep privileges the human man-made

kind of um construct of time

being absolute and eternal

right so

there's just this characteristic of

modernity in general

which

you can actually kind of like very

easily understand strictly in the terms

of the shame of the imaginary ego and

this kind of ideal of the self because

the ideal of the self is also a proxy

for the ideal of a state it's a proxy

for the ideal

of um a theology or religion a

metaphysics or whatever the fuck you

want when it comes to that right

okay there's someone in my chat who said

carl sagan puts it

um

i mean let's just not say things like

that

let's just not say things like that

right

also there's so much shit in my fucking

hazel whatever

bear with me because it's hard to talk

give me a sec

so with modern liberalism and modern

liberal metaphysics or anglo-saxon

metaphysics uh whatever you want to call

it modern metaphysics

right you kind of arrive at this

conclusion that

we kind of have this kind of projection

of some kind of imaginary ideal right

and that comes from our intuition and it

comes from our inner feeling and it's

this kind of inner aspiration we have

this inner naive child-like aspiration

and then modernity can kind of be summed

up as this kind of neuroticism of the

shame of the kind of in freudian terms

castration

of the imaginary self

and

that castration takes the form of a

humiliation right we have this neurotic

obsession with his humiliation where we

say

never again are we going to be caught

with our pants down

so with modernity we cease to have any

type of kind of like um

we cease to kind of have any type of

sense of an ideal

in the real we have this distrust of

grand narratives and grand ideals and

we have a distrust of public figures and

clearly we have a big distrust of

streamers and we have a distrust of

politicians we have a distrust of

ideologies and grand narratives and a

lot of people say oh this is just

post-modernism no that was there in the

beginning of modernity it's just been

extended to the sphere of like you know

phenomenal ass media right

as far as the rejection of um

the rejection of grand narratives are

concerned with modern science we can't

trust our intuitions anymore we can only

rely on the scientific method to have

any sort of sense of truth or anything

like that whatsoever right

um

so

now that you can get over that right

you can get over that part um

it brings you to this point where you

have to think about

at what point

have other civilizations

overcome this point of shame

because in the specific form of western

protestant whatever we want modern

civilization in general the conclusion

of it is basically neuroticism the

structure of neuroticism defined

by freud right as like this

basic structure of a subject

i should also add right specifically as

it concerns this kind of fixation on

shane

because someone brought it up earlier in

the chat and i was also thinking about

this too so the guy chris chan right why

were people so obsessed with chris chan

i mean clearly this was a mentally

disabled

uh

person with a

you know

you've encountered these people in your

life before you know it's very possible

for people to have these level of

delusions and these delusions of

grandeur so why were people so focused

and fixated on chris chan

well

i'll tell you why right it's not just

because these people are sick and

depraved there's actually a good reason

and it has to do with this same basic

structure of modernity i've been talking

to you

chris chan exemplified this same sense

of kind of like

um belief and delusional belief

in the purity

of the imaginary self and the imaginary

ego

uh

the castration of which defines

um

the modern subject right

and chris chan's refusal to be castrated

by this kind of like shame like hey you

should be ashamed you're you know

whatever his insistence on his delusions

and on his beliefs in order to maintain

his imagine it made people lose their

minds because there's something very

primordial about the structure of

modernity itself

uh that has to do with

um

this kind of um

recognition that

this disappointment this point at which

things go wrong

and if people are saying haas what do

you mean by modernity what is modernity

modernity means the point at which

things go wrong modernity is precisely

the point at which

somehow the continuity of the past is

arrested and everything we used to think

was shown to be wrong we're just utterly

and completely humiliated in this moment

like luther where we're kind of spit out

of the anus of being as this pure

excrement

stamped by this original sin

right

so um

i'm starting to think haaz is using

these streams to voice his own thoughts

that's got to be the dumbest thing i've

ever fucking heard like what of course

i'm voicing my thoughts like what

what

what what else would i be doing right

but anyway um

it also

um reflects in the form of like how do

we interact with strangers right because

the kind of um

intuitive trust that defines traditional

life or pre-modern life

where

you can look at a stranger and you can

say okay you're familiar to me in some

way and we're part of the same community

you could my kids can be around you we

could i trust you in some sense that is

also erased with modernity and we have

this kind of like um

default sense of distrust of the

neighbor and distrust of the other where

our interactions are purely mediated by

institutions

right i don't trust you around my kids i

don't trust you around i wouldn't trust

to be with you in a dark alley somewhere

like you'd fucking stab me to death and

kill me right

so

um there's also there's a lot of

different ways you can think about what

i'm talking about right yeah like that

war of all against all yeah hobbes hobbs

talks about it hobbs conception of the

state

is based on this same kind of like

primordial humiliation that defines

modernity

so anyway um

the thing is is that

this kind of seems like an existential

scandal it seems like a a crisis of some

right because

how could things have gone so wrong even

if we feel like we are wiser now

why did we have an original childhood

chris chan like naivety that we were

somehow

this was taken from us and

why why it's not the question is not why

were our why was our childhood like

naivety you know um

effaced and why did we become

disappointed the question is why did we

originally have that kind of like

delusion in the first place that's the

real fucking scandal the first

place and

i think

from what little i can say about this

right now right

because we have to obviously move on and

i know this is not a popular topic and

people aren't particularly interested in

it

but what i will say is that um

i think the beginning of adulthood and

the beginning of maturity and the

beginning of manhood or whatever you

want to call it

comes with the recognition that

this shame

which

confronts us as a contradiction

it confronts us as an otherness

in regards to our kind of delusion

that this stamp of shame

is actually a feature of being itself

and if it's a feature of being that

means that in contrast to the

modern or anglo-saxon metaphysics

whatever you want to call them where we

only believe in the truth of this

otherness of shame and we only believe

in this one-sided empty reality devoid

of meaning right because meaning is

because it's the result is nihilism

right if our sense of meaning in the

world is so utterly humiliated and

disappointed we can no longer

rely upon any type of

we can't rely on any sense of meaning

anymore because it's obviously going to

betray and let us down

so i think between having an imaginary

ideal and the complete and utter shame

and humiliation

of this ideal not being able to live up

to itself these are two sides of the

same coin and to me the beginning of

adulthood and the beginning of maturity

and the beginning of being able to

actually

um

enter into manhood because remember we

do have this crisis of prolonged

adolescence just part of the same issue

we're dealing with here

comes with the recognition

that these two things

form an object one object

one unity of opposites

and that object is the object

of our aesthetic it's the object

of our ideal self it's the object of our

speech

it's the object of our sense of being

and from there this is the precise point

at which we can arrive

at an authentic

traditionalism of family values family

values doesn't come when we emulate an

ideal of a wholesome family family

values comes and when i say family

values i mean like the patriarchal

family where

you have this sense of sacred

prohibition the prohibition of incest

right the prohibition of um well it's

just the prohibition of incest as the

foundation right but

with all of the sense of honor and shame

that comes with that

that is not an imaginary ideal that is a

very specific understanding of the unity

between our vulnerable imperfect

humanity and our ideal higher sense of

self and duty and obligation

and

the reason let's just say in the islamic

culture you have to have this veiling

let's say the veiling of women in the

veiling of women's shame

just as an example you can translate

this to anything else you know literally

anything else

um you need this kind of veiling

not because you're denying

that there's shame underneath the veil

but because you're giving expression to

some kind of acknowledgement

that

there is a unity of opposites there's

not just a one-sided ideal self there's

also this kind of like

um antecedent

natural

humiliating vulnerability that defines

our humanity that makes us imperfect

when you veil let's say in islamic

culture you're not trying to say oh i

don't have hair underneath

i'm not i don't have tits below whatever

like you're not saying that right of

course you're a naked person

under your clothing not just the the

veil in islam but in general right or of

course you know

everyone wears underpants so if like if

president biden his pants fall off

the thing that's shameful isn't the we

knew he was wearing underwear right

but his inability to kind of in that

instance cover it up

reflects his inability to kind of

maintain

not an imaginary sense of self

but

maintain

the kind of um

unity of both that defines a human an

adult human being a dignified adult

human being right

um

i wish i could put this in better words

i'm so fucking tired right now and it's

really frustrating

like

trying to get these thoughts out

i think the problem today though is that

we don't just judge people for things

they do that are humiliating we go out

of our way to try and find every single

little imperfection in someone's image

in order to kind of like use it as

evidence that they're a complete phony

you know like that guy who killed john

lennon you're a phony you're a fraud

it's like we go out of our way to pants

biden and say look you're wearing

underwear right we go out of our way to

do it and that's what i think is really

fucking psychotic right that's where it

becomes psychotic like

we go out of our way to like

bust down the bathroom doors to prove

that the emperor is taking a dump

as if that's proving anything as if that

proves some kind of fucking point like

wow congratulations you caught the

emperor taking a dump

how fucking embarrassing for him

no that's not embarrassing for him

that's embarrassing for you you're a

fucking freak and a stalker in a you

know a deranged piece of shit for going

out of your way and trying to you know

invade someone's privacy right

oh caught in 4k

no you know nothing has been caught in

4k except your own depravity right

um

anyway i think i just wanted to talk

about that because oh yeah the same is

also true by the way for literally

anything

russian chinese internal politics what

do western journalists do they try to do

the same thing they try to find every

little smidgen of imperfection

that's going to kind of like represent

the shame of the

constitution not the document like the

literal foundation of the state is based

on a lie

it's a lie

it's literally 1984 where they're

covering up the truth no they're not

you just don't understand

a post-liberal form of statehood a

post-liberal state

isn't projecting itself as some perfect

ideal

it's beyond your specific fixation

of the humiliation of sovereignty it's

the arrival at a form of sovereignty

that like every other form of

sovereignty in history actually is

cognizant of its finitude

is cognizant of its inherent limitation

and is cognizant of its imperfection

so this is really food for thought

because this is like a lot of shit

for you guys to think about okay what

okay

what

yeah hello

yeah

so you're still doing the like hegel

stuff

uh what's going on

so you're still doing like the hegel

stuff have you gone like deeper into

like other the german romantics are

idealists

uh

what do you mean

i don't know like

i think the

poem that hegel wrote when holderland

died titled elusis it's like really good

and like if you understand every

reference that hegel makes to the

listening mysteries in the phenomenology

it's probably the most important thing

to read and it was just like

yeah holder lin was like a genius mystic

it's kind of epic

like have you gone into that much

no i'm i'm i've very limited familiarity

with holderland

yeah and it was like holderlin and his

return to like

taking the advice from shelling to be

well we should go over like mythology

and history of philosophy and all that

sort of stuff like reading his lectures

on the history of philosophy not like

the philosophy of history is just so

good like he has this entire chapter on

yakube that we're just like

jakub bowman the the uh i don't know

what's up with like these people who

just like

they just joined this has happened

before actually they just do remember

the guy who talked about force

why

it's like what okay do you know i'm live

right now i'm not just okay hello

hey how's

this is awesome man hey i'm mr anon i'm

the guy that donated it to you i'm the

mormon and cap guy um i have a question

a little off topic um so we're both

religious people and i understand that

mormonism is shit on a lot by other

people because it's

basically protestantism with a bunch of

magic shit but

my faith comes from the belief in the

text

not so much the origins during any of

that so my question for you is

what is

the main reason why

people have abandoned

uh the sense of religion or spirituality

with god and perceived like people have

always wanted to go after like

hedonistic pleasure that's always been a

thing even when most people were

religious but why have people

specifically taken to insulting people

that believe in a higher power and a

higher purpose that gives people purpose

if it's not degenerate

like mormonism to me it gives me purpose

in a way even if i don't follow all the

tenets even if i disagree with other

people it provides good genuine purpose

why are people so against that and if

you would want to lean into

your muslim purpose and how that

invigorates you that would be awesome

just

uh i am a little bit familiar familiar

with mormonism and it's actually a

religion i have a great deal of respect

for

uh logos introduced me to a lot of stuff

in regards to that too but

mormonism is a very american religion

it's the i think it's very much

preeminent american religion and well

most people have a kind of disrespectful

attitude but uh and it's gonna sound

like

you know

it's gonna sound uh

weird but

it's gonna sound like uh

a joke but it's just south park

literally south park's kind of like

hits peace on mormonism

as you define the majority of people's

perceptions

of the religion

you know it's a real shame because um i

like to point this out to people that

like to insult mormonism it's like if

you look at the catholic church if you

look at any protestant faith they're not

building temples okay you say what you

will about mormons but they are building

temples they're converting people

they're building like like that that

whole concept alone to me is so awesome

it's like building infrastructure for

the purpose of getting closer to god and

it's like

that's why i have such a respect for the

muslim faith too it's like the they're

these like

i know that mormonism is definitely like

you said a new age american faith but i

like to think that we're almost

embracing this this traditionalism that

has been lost in modern religion which

is dedicating your life and your

organizational purpose to god and people

can disagree on the the specifics of

that but

if your organization does that as a

whole and it provides you personal

purpose that is all that should matter

whether the lore behind it matches up to

what people think i don't think that

that matters to me because people can

say stuff about joseph smith i don't

really care for me it's i've read the

texts speaks to me and that alone is is

why i believe it so

yeah

from the impression i got from mormonism

was that it's very close to

extremely close oh yeah like scarily

similar right yeah in a weird way like

yeah i mean we we don't have polygamy

anymore practice um and i don't know how

to go there's a big

big half people have is like oh mormons

those are the people that can have like

a bunch of wives and it's like no the

modern mormon church

uh

doesn't allow that

right and and can i also say i know this

is a it's your platform speech but i

just want to say this to the chat that

maybe has weird things about mormonism

just like other religions we were

persecuted and hunted down by the

american government that is a fact

that's the whole reason why we had to

come to utah in the first place you

really think we wanted to come out to

the desert you really think we wanted to

abandon i've been to the sites where you

know because it was founded in new york

it was also in illinois and iowa and

ohio we were forced here okay so in a

weird way when people insult the

religion it's like that's fine but i

have a deep antagonism towards like

catholicism and protestantism not as a

religious sense but in the sense of it's

your people that persecuted are my

people in a way you killed my people

it's the whole reason why we're out here

sorry i know that's a tangent but it's

just like it needs to be said like we

didn't choose to come out here we had to

and so you can insult us but we build

beautiful buildings

the mormon church is repopulating we're

having children they're teaching

traditional values they're the few

people that have actually stood up to

all this lgbt shit and said this is not

the way for society to go successfully

you don't have to hate gay people but

it's not the way to be successful and it

does not draw you closer to god i would

highly recommend i don't know if you

have but there was a document that the

mormon church put out called the

proclamation of the family they put it

out in the 90s

reading that is eerily scary because

they define what the family is and they

did it at a time where everyone was like

oh this is so obvious but nowadays

something like that is a heretical text

so

um i'd love to keep talking with you man

but uh

i really appreciate the fact that you

actually know something about this you

have a respect for it instead of

laughing me off like most people do you

know and i wouldn't say i practice it

every day like i don't follow all the

tenets but

in my heart that's the religion i was

raised in and it's part of me it's part

of my dna yeah just like as you describe

being muslim yeah i i

very much respect the religion and you

know there's even a few interesting

things i have to say about it but i

forgot

i really get a lot of sleep but there

are definitely totally fine a lot of

interesting things about mormon

eye view

um

what what ex i i really forgot but

you're totally fine i'm really blanking

you know but

yeah i i i spent like a few days just

going down a rabbit hole and um yeah i

very much i mean to be honest with you

uh

i

kind of

i kind of uh have more of an affinity

for mormonism any other

variant of american protestants

that's kind of you to say

in a weird way it's good it's refreshing

for me to hear that because

um

it's not like we're actively persecuted

because most mormons just kind of are

quiet about it and then of course in

utah that's why i live in utah so this

is kind of like israel is well i'm not

going to go into that but as the jews

have claimed israel the mormons have

claimed utah so it's kind of like we're

the dominant culture here

and yeah i know my people at home but

outside of this like it's it's a little

different um

if you don't mind me pivoting i actually

i the mormonism stuff is because you're

religious so that's why i brought it up

but my real thing that i would like to

actually talk to you about and ask you

questions about is

uh anarcho-capitalism

that is where i've kind of put my flag

and i did that hesitantly after years of

trying to figure out a belief system

that i felt was the most moral and

compatible with me

what made you choose marxist leninism

over other

i'll describe them as liberty oriented

belief systems

why choose such a state-heavy belief

system versus one that promotes

individual liberty

um

so i i've

it's 2022 so i uh

it's actually been over 10 years i don't

know why i always say

so i have had an affinity for um

politics let's just say since i was in

middle school right and

that's like 2008 right 2008 2009 um

and

it was early in high school that i kind

of leaped into

marx and the reason for all that by the

way was because

it was about having a geopolitical

perspective right so for me

right i understood there was this like

world system of imperialism

and there were these states that were

resisting it kind of groups resisting it

by the way and believe it or not um

especially like in middle school i was

actually kind of a fan

of alex jones i was a big fan of ron

paul i was a big fan of the militia

movement

in the united states because i saw these

were like this was the resistance in

america right

it's very populist in its origins

right but i also came to recognize that

like these um

strong states were somehow like

necessary to be able to resist um

imperialism

i'm not saying that's my justification

now i'm just saying like why is it that

why did i stumble into this specific

tendency right

right

so

doing that and now by the way this is

because of my background like i come

from a shia lebanese background

so america's support for israel and

america's kind of hostility to

iran and hostility toward the beast in

general like that's kind of like what

i guess

this is more like um

and

explanatory

rather than like um

normative or justific i don't know what

the fuck oh this is not like a

justification for my contemporary

beliefs

explaining how i got here

right so um

so uh as far as marxism leninism is

concerned

um

all i can really say is it's a really

long story i spent

you know well over 10 years

um

being basically committed to marxism

which

replaced my old devotion to religion

um

and

it's kind of like i was just kind of

dealing with that for

years and years and years and eventually

i came to appreciate uh

i came to like realize

that i was not more wise than

these communist states that had existed

in the past

and

there was more wisdom and experience

that they had had that i was beginning

to appreciate through theory itself

so i guess that's just a really boss way

of putting it

i don't think it's i think i don't think

it's botched because it's honest uh yeah

and

you know we're we're just two folks

chatting so it's not like we're gonna

sit here and and have a a better

discussion than what leaden was actually

putting pen to paper in switzerland so i

totally understand that um i guess okay

let me explain my perspective because

i'm reading chat and they're like ah and

cap cringe etc okay look i'm not a randy

into the extr i wouldn't say i'm an ad

cap with with no limits as in and cap

applies for everyone

nash like every human aboard the planet

i very much believe in this concept of

civilizational states as you described

it like uh china for the chinese america

for the americans etc i guess the the

reason why i'm drawn to

anarcho-capitalism is

i only see

those systems as the ones that are

working currently

um like businesses like the accumulating

capital etc i don't see that as an

inherent evil i think that this evil can

be curtailed and i just do not think the

state

is a good medium for curtailing it

because they're

the people that would be doing that

curtailing is the police

and it's like do we really have faith

that the police

cannot be bought by the very businesses

that government's supposed to be

regulating so for me it's like the

answer i see to corruption

has to come from like almost like a

theocratic state

like it only comes from the general

morals of a community it doesn't come

from like state authority like because i

don't see state authority as being

good at solving that problem so i i

guess to reframe the question is

i've i am handcapped because i do not

see a solution for regulating businesses

in a moral sense

so what other options are there that do

not rely

on police and the use of like guns and

stuff you know what i mean like i don't

know that's kind of a kindergarten

argument but like i'm trying to work

through it with you the issue is that to

me the foundation of any state does lie

in some

islands

right um

and a you know monopoly on violence

you're gonna say but uh i think the best

answer to that that i could give like

very briefly that

the only way to make a state immune to

um

corruption in the sense that you're

talking about

uh

is for the state to somehow

um

have

itself have skin in the game

where it's not just this kind of like

neutral universal administrative

interest

but it actually somehow like

like

in china's example there's state-owned

enterprises also in china's example you

have

a kind of communist party which is

itself like a

some kind of private corporation right

and

for that to have sovereignty in china

it's almost like it's one corporation

already above all and it's like bribing

the chinese communist party well that's

like bribing apple

bribing

american

not possible because already a

particular

so i guess to put this in common sense

terms um

i think the way to avoid corruption

is to constitute the state's interest as

itself some kind of private interest

not just a public interest

not just a repository for like the total

public but okay like for this for

example xi jinping

there's something called xi jinping

thought right

it's like his own or the chinese

communist party's own like aesthetic

direction they have their own kind of

like

path forward right it's not just that

they're pretending to be above it all

i guess that it's not a satisfactory

way i could put it

no i i see the parallels

that you're drawing that you're drawing

there and i think that they're

reasonable um

because it's like in a sense it's like

if we look at the institutions that are

the most efficient hands down they are

private enterprises

and it's because like you said they have

a direct incentive

to stay the course so to speak but it's

the same

of the commons right when you have a

public park everyone's just going to use

it as like a dumping ground because we

all have private

interests

and those are the things we tend to care

about and take care of right

right so to but to me it's about

uniting the particular the private

interest with the universal

and

i think the chinese

china is a good example of that i think

the chinese state is

you know in america we have a stereotype

of socialism right and just within the

parameters of that stereotype i think

america is more socialist in china i

think china is powerful yeah for sure

yeah like china's more of like a free

market economy than america is like a

regular

bureaucracy

tragedy of the commons you know horrible

mismanagement

china is much more efficient in how it

does things because oh for sure it has

less of this kind of like

tragedy of the commons issue

yeah i think you're a hundred percent

right um i won't go into any anecdotals

about china because

it's not like i'm chinese so what

evidence could i really add but it's

like a good example i use i was i was

actually talking to my father about this

and he was trying to you know he has the

stereotypical boomer republican attitude

towards china the ultimate evil etc

and i said why do you think china is

selling precursor chemicals to make

fentanyl and other drugs to the mexican

cartels

is it because it's a wonderful weapon to

destabilize the united states internally

and if you destabilize us internally the

empire falls i was like but and he was

like well that's just so evil i'm like

yeah but look at we what we have done

like i cannot prescribe individual

morals to the state level because

everyone's guilty everyone has blood on

their hands including you know going

back mormons there's plenty of blood on

mormon's hands so it's like that

fentanyl thing

um oh yeah sorry

what i'm familiar with actually i have

heard that it's

there's actually cia involvement through

the triad

chinese triad

um which is actually an enemy of the

communist

i i don't know i'm not an expert so i

will not say here nor there i'm only

going okay i'll provide the evidence

side that kind of drew me to this

conclusion

i have

just friends in various countries so i

try to tap them about like their

personal feelings and kind of what's

going on

and the sense i get is

china does not care about what private

business interests do within china as

long as it doesn't subvert the goals of

the chinese state

so

if someone wants to sell illegal

narcotics to a foreign country

china's not really going to care

because it's it in their mind it's like

well it's also in a way isn't it kind of

payback

for like a century of humiliation like i

mean i don't hold anything against china

for selling drugs to mexico because like

i said i believe in free markets so go

for it but china but china has a very

strict anti-drug policy i mean you can

get executed domestically for sure

domestically i i don't know

if they um

really i think they've been really

cracking down on

i don't know if china's to blame as much

as the pharmaceutical

united states

you know which oh i'll agree with you

there

yeah i mean

but china has been cracking down on on

on fentanyl right

um

to the extent of my knowledge

i think that

it's as far as what i know what china is

doing is supplying precursor chemicals

that are just general chemical use

so it's not like they're shipping

fentanyl and then the mexicans are just

a middleman from my understanding it's

it's actual like industrial legal

precursor chemicals that are being

purchased for the purpose of producing

fentanyl and

whether or not china the state of china

is aware of that is the purpose or not

in neither here nor there i just view it

as it's like

these are these are struggles between

two civilizations the american anglo

civilization and the chinese

civilization and i do not see any weapon

as being off the table and a b and

taking advantage of

americans weakness to vice

to me is a very useful weapon so i don't

hold the chinese

assuming it's true that china is doing

this intently i don't hold it against

them

um

i don't know i just

it's almost okay so this is like my big

conundrum

i see a solution for america as simply

more liberty for the common man as

you've described the working class

and you want the working class to

through the banner of communism

you know reinvigorate the country under

this banner of the proletariat or

whatever label you want to use i don't

disagree with you i just don't

understand why that solution has to come

from occupying state power and expanding

it

versus just allowing people to do what

they want in the privacy of their own

communities you know let them warm up i

think we have to look at the state as

one of those vacuums that it's like a

it's a vacuum that's there so even if

the states were to collapse

that vacuum would still somehow be there

sucking us all into

using us all to somehow

participate in it right

we are called upon with the burden of

addressing this kind of space of our

common

unity as a people

um

my kind of view of the state isn't

really like i think we have a view of

the state as this thing that looms over

us and interferes in our

um everyday interactions

business because

um

well it is

it's pretty heavy-handed it acts that

way it it just does act that way right

but

then we should recognize there is

a state below this that's real and

objective not just

reducible to the way like specifically

state acts oh is some kind of

common

there's some kind of common let's call

it civilization

that the state tries to

it's represent capacity

yeah i mean and it also like i think a

good to kind of uh still man your

argument the best example i can think of

is all these adoption of permit-less

carry laws in various states it is not

in the federal government's interest

for people to carry concealed weapons

without a license it's just not

so the fact that this is law like this

is going through

the legal process in a in the state

capacity is very interesting to me

because it's almost like

there is a rebellion against the federal

government using the levers of power

from state government

and i'm a fan of that civil war so to

speak between those two authorities

so

if the access that we can pursue is

leveraging that authority

and that is the authority that communism

wants to take over it doesn't simply

just want to expand federal power under

a new banner no then i can i can agree

with that because i i believe in like

i'll settle for the state government

model in federalism i'll settle for that

like i can live in that i live in

america now it's just fine the goal

of communism as far as

so

this state isn't really supposed to

interfere at this low level right

it's i i have personally a more localist

i think that's the marxist land as you

even stalin right stalin was like why

does the party have so much power in

everyday affairs we should limit and

curtail the party's power to just you

know being like this like spiritual

guide and let actual local

forms of governance handle

daily life right

and that's obviously been the model

that's has been adopted by the chinese

and i think the goal of a central state

should be to implement very vague

overarching goals like

you know

not specific stuff but like you know

let's eliminate poverty well how do you

eliminate poverty do it in a local way

right

and be a diversity of ways that that's

done

and

it could also be things like you know we

need common infrastructure that unites

difficulties right so that's a really

important role of a central state as

well

so right like that you know i'm not

going to deny the usefulness of the the

freeway system like i'm not that guy i

mean i like but it would be nice i

understand that people critique and cap

from that perspective it's a very valid

critique i guess when i describe myself

as an ancap i'm not describing it in

like the economic sense to the foolish

extreme it's almost in a social sense

it's like i just believe in liberty for

the common man

but that has to be curtailed by a moral

framework

and i just i don't like the idea of

enforcing that moral framework with

police with guns which seems to be the

solution a lot of people like i'm not

saying you but like like vosh for

example is pretty open to using state

authority and violence to crack down on

political dissent pretty aggressively uh

and i don't see you supporting that so

i i will agree ideally it's more so how

do you hold the moral authority together

what holds

what keeps a people moral

i think without using guns i kind of

talked about this a little bit but it is

just this kind of sense of common

civilization and shame it's things like

that

okay but and that's very true in the

mormons by the way that's how we do it

and i'm sure muslims have the same right

it's like self-critiquing within within

the culture part of my respect for

mormonism is that america is a kind of

we don't really have a culture or

civilization and i see mormonism as like

the roots of some kind of

authentically american civilization and

culture

brings a tear to my eye when you say

that yeah but anyway i hate to cut it

short but i gotta cover a lot

no thank you for the chat thanks for

taking the time to talk with me i will

continue to support your work hang in

there buddy you're gonna be a

bajillionaire one day you'll get it i

appreciate it man thank you so much lots

of love bro have a good night

all right i'm gonna bring on one more

person and that's it okay i'm gonna

bring on josh the zoomer

yeah

hello

yeah hey can you hear me yeah

hey um i come from the right wing let me

uh change my audios it works well

okay so

um i came from cozy.tv

mcgriper

um

in the right wing

we

instead of

presenting ourselves as far right or

alt-right we present ourselves as

america first or america first patriots

and i see that

you present yourself as a marxist

leninist correct my

you is

why not go for another term that might

be applicable to

a larger amount of people

like

an american socialist or

whatever that might be

why do you use marxist leninist instead

of something like

uh that

actually paradoxically for the very

reason that it might seem off-putting

it's that

marxism leninism is alien

and

the more you try to hide that alienness

because of a socialist whatever the more

people

see that they want it to be addressed

somehow okay well that we do know

there's this communism thing

there's you know it's because of the

history of the red scare you know

and

being able to directly and unashamedly

identify with that in my view

is at the very least enough to like

begin with something like okay people

have this red scare fear of communism

but i think that initiates a process

that will ultimately resolve itself

in some kind of mutual recognition but i

don't want to downplay the alienating

aspect

of communism because i think one of the

problems we have in america is we're not

alienated enough right

we and that sounds paradoxical but we

don't really have this kind of sense of

civilizational discipline

and

true respect for otherness right

so to me

i think

the basic idea is that you know

the modern modernity is something that

humiliates us

it

alienates us and communism is a way of

reclaiming that alienation

into the weapon of our very um

emancipation if you want to put it on

right it turns it into the weapon for

power and strength

and

healing

right

so i really don't i don't like the thing

where it's like we we're gonna hide

what we are

i like the shane i like to be

unashamed to be a communist

and yeah that's

yeah because we really our scope isn't

really like

we are

our scope is like

that it's like it's not just limited

to

a specific image of america it's a

specific

universal understanding of the world and

humanity and all that kind of stuff and

you know

that's really what we're bringing here

and applying that to the american

conditions but

it's

i just think there is that that level of

alienation comes with ideology that's

inevitable you have to do something with

yeah i would agree with you um

i totally agree with you

um this isn't really a debate question

just a question in general um i see you

and caleb you're making a big tent

movement we're doing the same thing with

nick fuentes and

a lot of other people

and my question to you is what kind of

practice where do you see that going

um right now we're getting into contact

with

politicians i know personal friends that

you know run

with other politicians they

you know they're in state governments

local governments things like that do

you see yourself moving a movement like

that i'm pretty new i just

uh found you a couple days earlier so

that's just a general question i have

with you

um

yeah well we i do want to get to a point

to turn infrared into a media apparatus

or something real and on the ground

right and and there's a few ways we've

looked at this

so

um we aren't really focusing on the

electoral thing

we're more focusing on

it's kind of weird but you know we

already have a communist party in this

country the american communist party

it's been totally co-opted and whatever

but our first move is that we want to

reclaim this party

we want a party for the working class

we want a specific communist party right

and they have denounced us right and

they've banned us so

we have people in the communist party

who practice

takiyah right the islamic thing where

it's like

you conceal

that you're an infrared watcher and

you're from infrared but you're still

you're still um

influencing the party right so that we

could eventually open the gates and have

this symbiotic relationship between

media

and the because media is the most

important thing media and the party now

once we have our party back right which

is what we need um i think we would then

be open to

big tent popular fronts

that are anti-establishment in nature

uh you know and all the and running

candidates for the communist party on a

local level and all that kind of shit

and

going forward is going forward but we we

want that base of operations we want our

party back

yeah that's all i had to ask thank you

no problem

i want to i should have asked added

another thing it's like it's not just

that communism is

alienating to americans there's also

something like

tantalizing and

interesting about it you know there's

something like

it's the things that we fear are also

the things

that

somehow interest us right

um but i wanna i'm gonna just jump right

into what we were yeah we're gonna get

right into like what we were

in let me get go over the super chats

thank you so much mr anonymous

my personal politics i am a mormon ancap

and i always thought that communists

were just bosh spawn but you speak truth

and that shattered my perception of the

left would you ever debate slash discuss

these things with me

oh he was already on thank you so much

man sorry to swap topics but i'm very

curious to hear your thoughts on

toulouse and quatery's marxism

anti-oedipus and thousand plateaus

specifically

um

i have not read a thousand plateaus

i know about the book but i'm going to

be honest with you i never read it i did

read difference in repetition and a lot

of other of their works

um but i do underst i have a general

view of de luz and a general

understanding

of his um

i wouldn't call it a philosophy his

ontology or i don't know if i call it

that right

um

my view of de la's is the same as g-zx

or less

no it's not it's not but the critique i

have is very similar to it like

i have an issue with delusions rejection

of hegel rejection of dialectics

and also from a baduzian perspective

rejection of oneness rejection of the

one

right i kind of like badou's essay the

fascism of the potato

um but i'm not a badassian not a badujin

i agree with the gjx

of

that you as well

hope that satisfies your question

thank you marshall for appreciate you

based

follow joseph smith 3. thank you adam

appreciate you man

what's up here from henkel bill thank

you so much disco phil

appreciate you

thank you olga how can we talk to you in

the future i would like to call as well

best wishes

uh

just call tomorrow you know

thank you

thank you young caesar do you view

geopolitics through a realist

theoretical lens where the balance of

power in the structure of system is the

main cause of state behavior rather than

regime type

um

no i uh

different schools of geopolitics

um

huh would i be cl would i be closer to

the realist one

uh rather than like the the other kinds

i

think so

i don't like any one of i think all the

paradigms are kind of one-sided but

anyway guys this is something i wanted

to cover today

and i have to even though we're kind of

a little out of time right

um

which was

the war for your mind that's being waged

so a lot of people don't know this so

most of you guys are kind of like

you're kind of like oh yeah i know

nato's waging psychological operation i

know they're doing all this crazy shit

but it's one thing to know it and it's

another thing to actually like

experience it right

so

to be clear

um

if you were aware of the extent to which

the information that is being streamed

to you on the internet

is intentional forms of warfare

by

military agencies and intelligence

agencies

to alter your perception of reality i

think you would lose your fucking mind

right

but don't just take it from me right um

take it from

nato themselves right so this was the

thing i wanted to cover today which is

behind nato's cognitive warfare

um let me

battle for your brain weighs by my

western military so this is pretty crazy

stuff that i wanted to inform you guys

about right so nato is developing new

forms of warfare to wage and this is

from october 2021 but it's never been

more relevant than now it's never been

more pertinent

because of the um ukraine crisis right

so there's new forms of warfare to wage

a battle for the brain as military

alliance puts it the us-led nato

military cartel has tested novel modes

of hybrid warfare against its

self-declared adversaries including

economic warfare cyber warfare

information warfare and psychological

warfare

now nato

is spinning out an entirely new kind of

combat it has branded cognitive warfare

described as the weaponization of brain

sciences

the new method involves hacking the

individual by exploiting the

vulnerabilities of the human brain

in order to implement more sophisticated

social engineering now take let's pause

for a second i mean

if you so you guys think okay this is

clearly referring to like something else

right

no it's not it's referring to this

sphere the politics streaming sphere i

mean

if you think this is like some far-off

phenomena oh this just no it's targeting

you i mean it's

you can almost guarantee there's

something going on at least

bare minimum they're gaming the

algorithm

right realistically they're probably

working together right i don't fucking

know i can't prove it but

it wouldn't surprise me vosh destiny all

these fucking streamers you look up to

and you watch

are probably somehow involved right

uh in this form of uh cognitive warfare

i mean

this is a small world guys it's not like

there's like this all of these political

streamers that are so influential it's a

pretty small world as far as political

content creators is concerned on youtube

and on twitch which are the most popular

political platforms right

for streaming and content creation

so until recently nato had divided war

into five different operational domains

air land sea space and cyber but with

its development of cognitive warfare

strategies the military alliance is

discussing a new sixth level human

domain

a 2020 nato sponsored study of this new

form of warfare clearly explained that

while actions taken in the five domains

are executed in order to have an effect

on the human domain cognitive warfare's

object is to make everyone a weapon the

brain will be the battlefield of the

21st century humans are the contested

domain future conflicts will likely

occur amongst the people digitally first

and physically thereafter in proximity

to hubs of political and economic power

now kind of see why they banned me from

twitch and shit because i mean this is

war

what we're doing now is a form of

warfare it's information warfare which

is by far the most important battlefield

and the most important battle space

in the 21st century

while the nato-backed study insisted

that much of its research on cognitive

warfare is designed for defensive

purposes it also conceded that the

military alliance is developing

offensive tactics stating

the human is very often the main

vulnerability and it should be

acknowledged in order to protect nato's

human capital but also to be able to

benefit from our adversaries

vulnerabilities in a chilling discourse

disclosure the report said explicitly

that the object of cognitive warfare is

to harm societies and not only the

military

so it's not just to harm

societies it's not just to harm the

military it's also to harm civilian

populations

so with entire civilian populations in

nato's crosshairs the report emphasized

that western militaries must work

closely with academia

to weaponize social sciences

and human sciences and help the alliance

develop its cognitive warfare capacities

now i'm going to say something that's

extremely cancelable but i'm not on

twitch so i'm allowed to say it now like

i said i am not against lgbt people

whatsoever in any capacity whatsoever

but on the other hand you do have more

traditional societies for which

i mean western lgbt is very

frightening scary and psychologically

whatever right

so

when it comes to the united states

promotion of like all these different

you know very fringe forms of sexual

practices across the whole fucking world

you don't think there's an element of

psychological warfare to that

where it's a way to kind of like

shock people into confusion and kind of

like engage in this form of like

traumatizing whole peoples into being

exposed to things they've never fucking

seen before and have no way to like make

sense of in any kind of fucking way

i mean i don't know

i think this is one of the ways you

control people is through trauma you

introduce trauma

i'm not just singling out lgbt here i'm

talking about every single way in which

you uproot the fundamental structure of

the family

that does i mean look regardless of what

you think about the family structure

it's very traumatizing modern capitalism

is traumatizing modernity is

traumatizing it's a trauma you inflict

on people

where they then look for meaning and

look to ways to cope with the trauma and

the

most hegemonic and means-tested ways in

which a people can cope

with the trauma induced by the modern

world is through like the western

capitalist model right specifically the

anglo-american model right

so that's a way to actually gain

hegemony over other countries is by

gaining hegemony over the way people

articulate

and make sense of the traumas induced to

their traditional ways of life

study described this phenomena as the

militarization of brain science but it

appears clear that nato's development of

cognitive warfare will also lead to the

militarization of all aspects of human

society and psychology from the most

intimate of social relationships to the

mind itself

such all encompassing militarization of

society is reflected in the paranoid

tone of the nato sponsored report which

warned of an embedded fifth column where

everyone unbeknownst to him or who is

behaving according to the plans of one

of our competitors

the study makes it clear that those

competitors reportedly exploding the

constants of western dissidents are

china and russia so this is pure

projection because they've been doing

cyborg for like decades and now they're

thinking that china and russia are

getting in on it in the same way that

they have been for so fucking long

and yeah it's just complete pure

projection on their part right

in other words

document shows that figures in the nato

military cartel

increasingly see their own domestic

population as a threat

fearing civilians to be potential

russian or chinese sleeper cells

dastardly fifth columns that challenge

the stability of western liberal

democracies

the ottawa citizen reported that the

canada's military joint command took

advantage of the pandemic wage and

information war against its own domestic

population testing out propaganda

tactics on canadian civilians

internal nato sponsored reports suggest

that this disclosure is just scratching

the surface of a wave of new

unconventional warfare techniques that

western militaries are employing

around the world

cognitive warfare technologies change

what people think but also how they act

integration of cyber disinformation

misinformation psychological and social

engineering capabilities i mean this is

all out in the fucking open it's not a

conspiracy anymore because it's

literally all out in the fucking open i

mean if you don't think they're

employing this shit on you you're really

fucking naive at this point right

um nato's back canadian military

officials discuss cognitive warfare and

panel event

ways of harming the brain

you don't think drugs also pay a big

play a big role in that they certainly

do

right

starts with hyper connectivity everybody

has a cell phone

it goes way beyond solely information

which is a standalone operation

information warfare is a standalone

operation

it overlaps with big tech corporations

and mass surveillance because it's all

about leveraging the big data

that actually reminds me of something

um

speak of the devil actually

so check this out it's actually pretty

fucking crazy

god where the fuck is it i can't fucking

believe

i lost it

she's it's about this new thing where

big tech is now a priority

for the pentagon let me just look up

pentagon big tech

fuck

oh wait yeah big tech national security

that's the key word

i remember

there you go from glenn greenwald this

is speaking of the devil so former

intelligence officials citing russia

insist that big text monopoly power is

actually vital to u.s national security

right

so here a group of former intelligence

and national security officials on

monday issued a jointly signed letter

warning that pending legislative

attempts to restrict or break up the

power of big tech monopolies would be

would jeopardize national security

because they argue their centralized

censorship power is crucial to advancing

u.s foreign policy the majority of this

letter is devoted to repeatedly invoking

the grave threat allegedly posed to the

us by russia as illustrated by the

invasion of ukraine and it repeatedly

points to the dangers of putin and the

kremlin to justify the need to preserve

big tech's power

power in the maximalist form

so there you go i mean

uh and what is really the fascism thing

we're talking about here is well

the preservation of monopolies

united with state power

um

which

is used to maintain rents

profits in the form of rents now right

through war right and that's basically

the structure of fascism

cognitive warfare overlaps with big tech

corporations and mass surveillance

because it's all about leveraging big

data

it's much more powerful and it goes way

beyond information whatever level in

psyops

screw should understand that it's a game

on our cognition on the way our brain

processes information and turns it into

knowledge

this is fucking terrifying right

it's literally rewiring the human brain

rather than solely a game on information

or a psychological aspect of our brains

it's not only an action against what we

think but also an action against the way

we think

the way we process information and turn

it into knowledge

it's our war on our individual processor

our brain

its field of military action is global

and its aim is to seize control of the

human being civilian as well as military

um you know the scary fucking thing here

is it's like

oh i wish i had the brain power to talk

more about this shit honestly but

it's like when we when i talk about this

issue of like post-humanism and this

fundamental threat to humanity and what

fundamentally constitutes us as free

human beings i mean this is terrifying

this fundamentally uproots what it means

to be a free human subject

and it's this level of intrusion in our

ability to be human beings to put it in

the least

uh that is like the principal threat

the existential threat humanity's facing

on a global level right

it just calls into question the very

core of what it means to be human

the massive worldwide investments made

in our in neurosciences suggest the

cognitive domain will probably be one of

the battlefields of the future

majority of current conflicts remain

below the threshold of the traditionally

accepted definition of warfare but new

forms of warfare have emerged such as

cognitive warfare yeah i mean this is

this is fucking scary guys it's

absolutely terrifying

we are at a

we are at a crossroads as a species even

right

where

we've kind of exhausted the extent to

which we can conceive

of human beings

within the paradigm of modern science

and modern technologies of control

of cybernetics

i mean this is like the decisive moment

heidegger talked about when he said

american cybernetics

represented the end of humanity

right

um i would absolutely love to talk more

about this

but

i am so fucking exhausted

and it's so fucking late i think i can

take a few more questions

are there any more super chats let me

see

nope

so

all right guys i told you it's gonna be

a short stream

and

tomorrow

i just pray i get some sleep guys let's

pray i get sleep

dionysian thank you so much man the

report emphasized that western

militaries must work more closely with

academia to weaponize social sciences

and human sciences change not what you

think but how you think literal psywar

skull skull skull

thank you so much man appreciate it so

much dionysian

thank you so much

um looks like we got another super chat

so i will

respond to the question

would you go on joe rogan

yes i would yeah i definitely wouldn't

i definitely would go on joe rogan

and obviously

all right guys today was a

not very

thank you all for the super chats

appreciate it a ton

and you know we were at 300 all day

today

because of how late i started and how

short the stream is i just pray i

wake up earlier and

i'll

start the stream like way fucking

earlier maybe even do like a six hour

stream right

anyway guys um

i'll see you tomorrow

pray i get some sleep

bye guys