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All guys, we're gonna get right into it.
We're gonna be doing another mega space with Jackson.
I told you guys we're gonna be early.
I'm a man of my word, I keep my word.
So yeah, we're gonna be getting into this right away. just right now we're just going to get right into it.
So without any further ado, let's do it.
So, I'm actually going to open up a different one for the space.
I'm just going to join it and we're going to get right into this.
Here in a second and I don't know where he is so someone tell
Oz to get,
I know he's streaming on kick right now already,
but basically the UN just did approve a,
I'll say this before we get started with Hawes here.
The United Nations did, how's it going,
we're just getting started here. I was saying a few words about this UN approval.
I'll just say this quickly. So there's a UN approved ceasefire resolution. 120 countries voted in favor.
45 soy ass extensionsentions, and extremely soy 14 votes against.
Of course, the United States and Israel were among those that voted against.
I believe there was no condemnation of Hamas in this resolution.
But as you all know, resolutions in the United Nations, paper tigers, toothless, whatever.
They don't do anything.
It's not going to change anything.
Israel still marching in with their Murkavkas and their armored fighting vehicles
and they will be bringing terror to the people of Gaza within ours so
assuming this all continues to unfold as we imagine so how you doing what do you
think about all this? Good, how are you?
Um, yeah, it seems like the situation is unfolding now, but there's an interesting thing
that I just kind of realized just now is that in order to avoid an immediate response and
backlash from the entire Arab and Muslim
world, I don't know if you cover this already, but the IDF is already kind of backtracking
and saying, actually this is not the real ground invasion that we're planning, this is just an incursion, this is just an
increased raid. Of course we know this is the ground operation and they're just bluffing
and two they just don't want to invoke the the wrath of the region. I mean, I mean, Dugan put it best, they're just he
because he covered this and responded to it just now. It's like they are just
changing the name of the ground invasion so as to avoid the consequences.
And, but there's no difference. This is the beginning. You know, I'm confident in that.
Yes, it's kind of similar to when Ukraine launched their much touted counter offensive and it was supposed to reach, I mean for those of you don't follow
that conflict, it was supposed to reach all the way towards the sea of Azov, which is pretty
damn far, within about a month.
And then after three months, Ukraine lost 70,000 men.
They didn't move past more than a few, like 5, 10 kilometers
into the territory that Russia helped.
And Zolinsky came out and said, well said well actually this was not our counter
offensive and it has yet to begin yet. So he like launched the case it was such a
failure so this is you know but it is it is possible that it is possible that this
is going to continue to, there's going to be more troops,
more tanks obviously that are really sent in.
It is very possible that this first day, though it is the beginning and no one I don't think
is really denying that right now.
It is possible that these are going to be the first few hours maybe be more in the space of what we label as probing operations
Even though this is a definitive beginning of the ground invasion.
Yeah, so I think the big question on everyone's mind is whether we're going to see an immediate
retaliation or response from the Hezib to the north and
My prediction actually and I could be really wrong by this. I think they're actually expecting a protracted
Perhaps months long
Gorilla war in which Hamas is going to deplete the numbers of the IDF and then only once they're
weakened and tired, perhaps then we'll see the kind of intervention. But I actually personally
am not expecting an immediate intervention by the Hezib. I could be wrong about that. It's just kind of
based on a gut instinct I guess as well as
other kinds of mixed messages that I've heard surrounding it. So we'll have to
wait and see but if it's going to happen it seems like it's going to happen
now or it's going to happen you know maybe in a few weeks or months from now?
Yeah, who knows? And it's really interesting because I did see that statement from the IDF chief.
He said that, you know, this ground invasion could last one, two, or even three months, he said.
And it's really interesting that he said that because, as you know, the IDF is a casualty phobic military.
They really, every time they wage some sort of a conflict
against any group, they always try to minimize casualties,
minimize deaths to the best of their ability.
And usually they stop any altercations
once total casualties or deaths reach like 2,000.
So the idea that they're going to be able to go three months and only lose 2,000 casualties
you know is insane. That's, I really don't believe that's going to be the case.
I think there's going to be high casualties, and they wouldn't have called up 300,000
extra reservists if they didn't think that themselves.
So this might be uncharacteristic of the Israelis if they actually do fight this much this deeply this violently and also suffer
This much in the in the in the proximity of their operation
I mean yeah drawing up that many reservists it it really does seem, sorry, give me a moment.
Adam, thank you.
Okay, we got to shut this off though because we can't, we can't, we can't, please don't
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I think the reason, the main reason why they called up those $300
services because they know as Haas was mentioning the likelihood of Hezbollah and other
forces potentially intervening at some point in this madness and by thethe way, everyone tuning in, be sure to follow our speakers.
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Yeah, like I was gonna say,
I mean, the fact they're calling up this many reservists,
I think proves, I mean, very cynically,
it's actually pretty barbaric.
They're planning on bleeding their reserve dry.
They're planning on, like you said, much more than 2,000 casualties.
And I don't know what the end game for that is going to be if it's going to be American
intervention or otherwise, but I mean, I think we're going to be looking at a protracted,
months-long ground invasion in which Hamas forces are simply going to bleed the IDF
drive.
And then at that point, if there's an intervention from the North by Hezbollah,
I mean, it would have to incur American intervention.
Yeah, in fact, that's...
There's only Americans guys on the ground on the coast.
Were you going to say that's a mirror?
I was actually going to say something else.
You know, they're going into an environment with a bunch of guerrilla fighters,
and the reason why they delayed this for so long was because they were trying to secure
American assistance or you know some sort of a backup just in case you know
they go in and something bad happens to them which is likely going to be the
case and they are very afraid of a two-front war.
Even CENTCOM released an assessment saying Israel won't be able to handle a two-front war.
Like, Marianne Burruth, he just posted that there's reports on the Gaza coast of Delta forces, Americans already butchering Palestinians on the coast of Gaza right now.
Can you post it in the Dramaritan?
Sure I can.
These are just her reports, but I just want to say because I have the opportunity on this
space that Israel has no right to exist.
I hope they get completely butchered by Hezbollah from the north and Hamas from the south.
Yeah so are those troops that are American troops, are they there under the pretense of rescuing
hostages or what is their stated purpose or goal?
I have no idea to die for Israel, I guess, at the moment.
So their stated goal, yes, is for the purpose of securing hostages and ensuring the moment? So their stated goal yes is for the purpose of you know securing
hostages and ensuring their safe evacuation. That's what they're saying. This
is what I last heard but I'm gonna have to check one sec. I see so I'm not exactly sure how it exactly works, if anyone knows.
With the commencement of a ground operation, can we expect because IDF forces are going to
be in the area, there's going to be slightly a decrease in the bombardments, at least where they're operating,
or how is that going to work as far as the bombardment?
Because as we know right now, Gaza is under an unprecedented kind of total of bombardment.
I mean, every, incessantly, missiles are raining down, civilians are dying.
So what can we expect as far as that's concerned, if anyone knows?
I'll just say that, and can you hear me well?
I got headphones on.
Yeah, yeah, I can hear you fine.
Yeah, it sounds great. I'll just say that it in my eyes, based on everything I've seen in Ukraine, obviously Hamas right now they're underground, but as soon as they start launching, you know, the drones
that they have, they have those agricultural drones that they refitted with explosives.
If they have any sort of like artillery that they try to start launching at Israeli tanks and stuff like that.
Israel of course is going to be trying to hit those as quickly as possible
because they're quite mobile set-ups that they have from what I've seen in
videos. So Israel's going to be trying to hit those as
quickly as possible. I mean it's like artillery warfare and they're doing this
ground invasion. So I think the scope of the bombings won't be leveling cities
anymore. I think it'll be more towards targeting those firing positions.
Okay, I see. Yeah. So, um, I think, uh, the question really is what the tipping point is going to be.
I mean, what is the extent of the destruction we can expect once, now that this ground
operation is going to commence.
I mean, obviously, what we've seen in the past, I mean, there's a, I mean, I know it's
niche and marginal, but there's people in the past. I mean there's a I mean I know it's niche and
marginal but there's people in the Turkish Parliament who are calling for
intervention of Turkey because of the bombardment. So is is the ground invasion
going to be a kind of huge amplification of that or is it got to proceed in the same way it's been?
Because I have to wonder, I mean, while I do expect on the one hand the possibility of a protracted months-long operation,
on the other hand, how long can the Muslim and Arab world take,
you know, seeing all the humanitarian
losses proceeding from this?
Syrian girl has her hand up.
Syrian girl?
I just wanted to say, well, here's's the hope and here's what we've been
waiting for the fact that the Israelis completely commit their forces south
then Hezbollah will attack from the north because their forces will be split
as for Turkey you know I'm thinking this north because their forces will be split. As for Turkey, you know, I'm thinking,
this is my suspicion, that they're going to do something in the north of Syria and
make the situation completely uninhabitable for the US troops there. Because Erdogan has made statements to that end
like a day ago where he said that he's going to deal with the north of Syria, but it's interesting
to see if he's going to do something about Palestine as well. It would be already very helpful
if the American soldiers can be removed
from the oil fields because then Syria can regain its strength and you know
become more of a someone that can help the Palestinians. But yeah I can't stand it, I can't stand the inaction across the board,
not just in Iran and Turkey, so it already seems like there's, it's already been reported
that there's thousands at, of troops waiting in the Syrian border
ready to go in. Is there any kind of indication or is there any reports of whether or not
this is going to begin because of the ground invasion or what can we expect with that?
Are they just simply as aligned with Hezbo invasion or what can we expect with that? Are they just
simply as a line with Hezbollah or how do we expect that's going to proceed?
So the fourth armor division has been called to the Golan Heights border but
I don't think there's any commands to go in to the Golan Heights at the moment.
At the moment we're using like asymmetric warfare units from like the Syrian Socialist Nationalist Party,
the Palestinian PFLP, GC, Hezbullah, and that might start some kind of action in
the Golan Heights as they have before, they might increase that, but we're
because unless the Americans come in which there have been reports that they are, I
think it's going to remain
like an asymmetric war.
But we'll see.
Things can escalate very quickly.
Yeah, and the real question is whether or not the United States is going to get involved that
early in a conflict.
I mean, if Hezbollah opens the Northern Front, I know the United States has apparently
given assurances of some kind that that's going to provoke their involvement, but is this
just a bluff or is it true?
Because I can't imagine we're going to commit
the entire you know the entirety of the country to a war just because of Hezbollah it just seems
out of this world. Yeah and unfortunately they there would be a public consensus in favor of that happening, because, you know,
they've been propagandized so heavily by the Zionist media and affiliated media.
I usually get my updates from Telegram, and right now I just checked checked and they cannot be displayed on my
device. So any Hezbollah Hamas affiliated channel just for news updates I
can't access unfortunately. Yeah my Telegram chat was also banned and it has
not been reinstated even though I'm an American citizen and obviously
have no ties any foreign government never have and probably never will but they uh my telegram channels still
up but my chat was banned. Yeah and they were actually pressuring Telegram to ban all of
these channels and the founder of Telegram he said absolutely not because you
know this is valuable information it was Apple that restricted those channels
on our devices.
So if you guys have an Android, maybe you'll be able to access those channels.
Please check and let me know.
So I'm really saying guys, by the way, like, because you're putting yourself at risk,
especially Jackson because you're not Muslim and you're not from the way, like because you're putting yourself at risk, especially Jackson
because you're not Muslim and you're not from the Middle East. I really, you have a
lot of honor, I just want to say that. Thank you. So Dan Cohen, who's another great
American, who's actually been to Gaza, reported on the ground in Gaza, and he's made a documentary about his time
there.
Jewish American, by the way, he said, currently, reports say Israeli military incursions
on Gaza's eastern side are being met with stiff resistance from the
Al-Qasim brigades and are unable to advance the region's strongest military
supported by superpowers being matched by concentration camp inmates with
rudimentary weapons. Now I'll just say again that it's easy to look at
these reports that are coming out from the resistance and say wow, it's incredible. They're already
defeating them. But the fact of the matter is we know Israel has extremely
superior military power, not spirit, not mentality, but military power to Hamas.
And I think it's very likely that they are going in currently, even though this is the beginning of the operation,
it doesn't seem as though they are doing what Russia did at the start of their SMO in Ukraine.
When Russia went in, they went in guns blazing and got as
deep as they could inside of Ukraine and then kind of tried to hold positions and negotiate
further based upon the positions that they held. But it seems as though Israel, what they've
done the past couple days, they launched an
operation with U.S. and Israeli special forces to try and evacuate the hostages.
That failed according to former Trump senior Pentagon advisor, Colonel Douglas McGregor.
And those U.S. and Israeli special forces were, as he put it, chopped up into pieces upon their entry to Gaza.
Then they launched some probing operations, I believe two nights ago, with some tanks
and armored fighting vehicles.
That didn't really get too far.
There was reports that one or more Israeli special forces were captured in Gaza and that
operation.
And I'd imagine if they're still going on this route,
these are probably just more,
it's the start, yes, but these are more so probing operations.
I find it hard to believe that, you know,
despite all of the booby traps, drones, and guerrilla warfare tactics
that, you know, Hamas has been building up for years that Israel is like actually having
some sort of a huge difficulty right now.
I could be wrong, but I'd imagine these are more so just probing operations for them to eventually send in more troops and figure out the
best routes. Do we have any information as far as, or I'm sure this has probably
kept top secret as far as some of the more details of the planned
ground operation or ground invasion.
I mean, how are they going to circumvent all the things you mentioned, the booby traps and the rest?
Is there some kind of brilliant plan that they're cooking up or that they've created because to be honest,
I have doubts, you know, I have doubts that they're, I feel like there's under a lot of pressure
the government within occupied palace, I'm under a lot of pressure to kind of tell its civilians and tell its people that they're going to, you know, go in and destroy Hamas and all these things.
But I don't actually think they have the ability to do that right now.
So they're kind of in a debt, if you will.
They're in debt to the public that they have to kind of make do on
avenging the horrible events of October 7th where 40 babies were beheaded, but they can't do it,
right? So this is probably why we're seeing a lot of the hesitancy and a lot of the backtracking
of and that's either that or they're trying to just kind of have a ground
invasion without provoking the immediate ire of the region. Yes, yes. Yes, the
that's exactly it. The Israel, as everyone knows I'm sure, Netanyahu was in a very
politically weak position before this all began and you know that was in a
large part due to these constitutional court reforms he was trying
to push through amongst other issues, but that was what sparked mass protests in the
street that were calling for his resignation, but there was a lot of other reasons as well.
But what does a victory look like politically?
Because Netanyahu doesn't really care about, you know, quote unquote, wiping out Hamas
because you can't really do that.
What he cares about is getting as many hostages back alive because you can't really do that. What he cares about is getting as many hostages back alive because you can tout that as
a political victory and also wreaking as much havoc on the Palestinian people as possible
and you can tel that as a victory.
They've already done the latter through extensive
bombing and leveling of major cities. So you can already say that's a victory
politically for Netanyahu, which is obviously sick and twisted, but that's
the truth and that's how Israelis are going to look at this.
Eight out of ten Jewish Israelis blame that Nahu for the intelligence failure that
led to the all-ocks of flood and the hostages that were taken and that also pissed off
a lot of Israelis. So that's why they were taken. And that also pissed off a lot of Israelis.
So that's why they bombed so heavily.
And when it comes to the military strategy, I mean, they want to get those hostages.
They're not going to be able to get those hostages.
I mean, they're, Hamas is going to hide those hostages down deeper than any, you know, major missile
J-DAM could strike potentially.
So 15 meters deeper, that's how that's how deep they build their tunnels.
But so I don't I don't really know how they could do that.
Basically, you're going to have every military-age man in Gaza, above the age of 16 at least,
who is going to be wanting to pick up a rifle if there's enough to go and fight Israel,
based on what Israel has done to them, not just these past few weeks, but over the last
several decades.
And wiping out Hamas would be the equivalent to wiping out every military-aged man in Gaza, I think.
So I don't really know what they're planning to do, what the plane of victory looks like,
what their clear and defined goals are other than hostages and wreaking havoc on the
people.
Yeah, I really think that a lot of people overestimate the extent to which the Zionist entity is a
United and cohesive entity with this elaborate strategy and stuff. I mean people need to appreciate how
profoundly divided the so-called society of the Zionist entity truly is. I mean nothing
really besides a tenuous sense of religious nationality ties these people
together and the conflicts within the Zionist entity. I mean Nisralla pointed
this out last year I mean mean, he said we don't
even have to fire a single bullet. It's going to implode and collapse on its own. So when they're
faced with a situation of war like this, obviously it seems like everybody there is united by a sense
of profound tragedy and it's oh, it's their 9-11 and stuff
But I don't think there's a sense of unity in resolve
Besides calling for destroying and bombing the shit out of Gaza, but do they have the morale to actually go there
and fight a protracted war?
I don't think so.
I don't think the IDF is nearly as united
and motivated as people are making it out to be.
Yes, there's a set, they've been brainwashed all this propaganda
of 40 beheaded babies and stuff, but really, I mean, put it this way, if in 2006 and even
2008, 2009, the IDF was comprised of these kind of, you know, young, nihilists who don't really, it's
very cynical about what they're even doing, they don't even really believe in it.
This TikTok generation of Zoomers are really, I don't think they have the morale, I don't
think they have the motivation.
And I think if we're looking at a protracted conflict, I mean, it could be like the morale I don't think they have the motivation and I think if if we're
looking at a protracted conflict I mean it could be like they're Vietnam you
know they'll just get sick and tired and they may sue for peace just on that
basis yeah yeah ten nine eleventh host bad. This was this was like a hundred 9-11s because...
I didn't know they upgraded that. But yeah, I just wanted to speak on what Jackson and
Haas were saying. There is a lot of division in the Israeli establishment over how to go about
this and that's why the invasion, the ground invasion was delayed for so long.
There was a New York Times piece on it yesterday and they discussed this.
I'm trying to access it, but yeah, it's behind a paywall.
Prior to this operation, there was a lot of internal strife regarding Netanyahu,
and the military establishment, the security establishment, they were actually against him and they're against his judicial reform.
So they even said that they wouldn't, you know, show up if they were called.
And I wonder if that played a role in why they didn't show up when the operation happened,
why there was so many intelligence failures and whatnot.
And Nethan Yahoo's approval rating is dropping every single day and the opposition is saying
that he's been weak and he allowed this to happen and they want to go harder on Gaza
than even him.
Yes, so by the way, I just brought up Dan Cohen.
Dan Cohen's a great investigative journalist.
It works, has worked with the Gray Zone,
with Redacted, great YouTube show.
It's been to guys, I believe, multiple times
and did a great documentary there.
Max Blumenthal. Also great work on this issue amongst many others.
Dan, how's it going?
What is your radar on what's happening here?
You know, I mentioned your tweet a moment ago
about the reports that I'll just read it for those view
that are just tuning in. Reports say Israeli military incursions on Gaza's
eastern side are met with stiff resistance from the all-cost and brigades and
are unable to advance. I pose the question, okay, how do we know whether or
not, you know, this is a full-blown effort by the Israelis or if these are
just, you know, the beginning probing operations of the invasion? I'm not saying
this isn't the invasion, I think it is, but do we
know, like I guess we don't really know for certain whether or not this is a
full wind attack or if these are just probing operations. What are your
thoughts? Yeah, it's hard to know whether this is the, you know, full on ground invasion they've
been talking about.
I mean, I think one important thing to know is there was actually, on Al Jazeeraera Arabic earlier there was talks of a
ceasefire of a temporary ceasefire between you know Israel and and the
resistance in Gaza and usually when there's going to be a ceasefire Israel will go really crazy for
you know a period of hours or days or whatever it is.
So I don't know where those stand, apparently mediated by Qatar.
So I don't know if that's actually going to happen or not.
I don't know if this is the, you know, the full-on invasion that they've been talking about.
But I mean, at least from the reports I've seen, my tweet, I was basing that off of, um, while, I'm gonna butcher's name, Dachdoz,
his thaljazira Arabic correspondent in Gaza,
who, you know, his family was murdered yesterday,
or the day before.
That's what, that's from his telegrams.
That's a solid source.
And, you know, you can imagine how long Al Qasam,
the resistance, has been preparing for this moment.
So, you know, any Israeli incursion, I mean, even the smaller ones we've seen over the past couple days,
as soon as Israel has like dipped its, the tip of its toe in the water, it's found it to be boiling hot.
So, there's a lot of anxiety, I think, in the ranks of the Israeli military, which is of course why they're just sticking to bombing as much as possible, not only to maximize civilian casualties in order to try to turn people against the resistance. It's
part of the Dachia doctrine, but also in order to damage the tunnel system as
much as possible, the very complex tunnel system which they just really don't
have an answer for. I mean I think I think
they really underestimate how serious that tunnel system is you know I've seen
like Israelis talking about we're just going to go in there and it's going to
take weeks or months but we're going to root them out and it's like it's
going to be a death,
it's a total death trap.
Yeah, I have another question for you,
and thanks for all the insight.
So it's a two-part question.
So what are the clear and definable goals,
I guess, that we can decipher the Netanyahu government
may be seeking in this operation
if it is in fact going to be some sort of a protracted conflict
and a long-winded operation?
And part two of that question is,
you mentioned the tunnels.
Now, all the Israeli propagandists,
you know, like that woman that was in that Mario Nafo's space,
they say, well, we've been targeting the tunnels
since October 7th with these strikes.
And it's like, well, they say,
oh, the tunnels, the exits of the tunnels
are in the hospitals, in the schools,
and the churches, and the mosques,
that's why we're bombing them. So obviously we know that that's a bunch of BS
and we know that they haven't.
Hamas from Scott Ritter, former UN weapons inspector,
and incredible commentator and all these things, he told me.
He's like, you know, Jackson, the way they build these tunnels told me he's like you know Jackson the way
they build these tunnels they build them 15 meters deeper than you know the
biggest non-nuclear missiles can penetrate into the ground in Gaza that's how
that's how far down they they build them now so so what are the clear and definable goals?
And do you think that whatever those goals are, that they have a potential of achieving
them, if it's hostages, if it's eradicating Hamas, those sorts of things.
Clear and definable goals, I don't think they even really have.
I think, you know, part of this is purely about, for Netanyahu, it's about his political
survival.
Because, you know, as you were saying, he's like the most reviled man in Israeli society.
He's had, you know, massive protests against him.
And, you know, his failure to prevent October 7th, of course, makes him hated even more.
He was, you know, he's known as crime minister for all this time, so now he's hated even more.
So his credibility is totally staked on, you know, what he's, what he promises to do which is defeat Hamas. Now
what does that mean to defeat Hamas? That means you basically just have to
carry out genocide because I mean you know for for Zionists Hamas is just it's now a euphemism for
Palestinians it's just it's resistance and everybody is going to you know
everyone supports resistance so it's like you know they said oh all the's like, you know, they said,
oh, all the Palestinians,
all the civilians have to get out of the North.
And anyone who stays there, we consider Hamas.
Well, people stay there anyway,
because for one thing, maybe they can't,
they can't get out.
Maybe they're not capable
because it's completely impractical as even the UN says for over a million people to suddenly
evacuate into the south where it's already already extremely crowded let alone there are
people who choose to resist who say no I'm gonna stay in my house you know
they're not it's not gonna be another Nakba where I just flee so Israel says
anyone who who stays we consider Hamas.
So they can be killed.
They're terrorists because they didn't follow our orders.
Even if it's an 80-year-old grandmother, she is now Hamas.
You know, and like, the distinction is, I mean, it matters in terms of international law, but everyone
supports resistance.
So for Israel, they don't differentiate, and there's not really much of a differentiation
on the ground.
They're bomb, you know, if they're're say they want to, they're
bombing some tunnel or somewhere where they claim that a Hamas, you know,
fighter might be, and they're going to kill, you know, an entire family of 50
people in order to get them. So there's, so obviously they don't distinguish.
Israel doesn't actually distinguish. So you can just see the way they don't distinguish. Israel doesn't actually distinguish.
So you can just see the way they speak.
There's no, they don't treat, you know,
Palestinian and Hamas are just interchangeable for Israel.
So I don't think Netanyahu can actually accomplish that goal, for one thing, because
to do that, they'd have to send soldiers into this complex, massive web of tunnels that
they have no experience in where there are hidden doors, there are
booby traps.
I mean, it's just, it's just a, like I said, a death trap for Israeli soldiers, let
alone the morale of Israeli soldiers.
I mean, there's definitely like the TikTok generation-Tock generation that has you were talking about,
and that's true.
There's also a ton of like fanatics who are basically have kind of like a straight up ISIS-like
ideology of this apocalyptic form of Zionism where you know it's not just like people hanging out
in like Tel Aviv coffee shops and smoking weed and like listening to red hot chili peppers. It's like
the real whack jobs. The thing is, they have something to lose.
That's like the real difference, I think, between Israeli soldiers and the Palestinian
resistance or like Hezbollah, especially in Palestine.
They have something to lose.
Israelis do.
Whereas if you're a Khasm fighter in Gaza,
basically your family has probably already been killed
or imprisoned or some combination thereof,
that's been your entire life.
So you don't have a life.
You're basically already dead. So it's like you cannot scare a Qasom fighter.
And yes, there's like a religious resistance ideology, but it's the material conditions that create,
that that really, you know, make that real.
So, I mean, those guys are ready to die.
Israeli soldiers are not ready to die.
Look at, what's his name, Avi Yemeni?
He did a piece, I mean, that guy's a clown,
but he did a piece, I mean that guy's a clown, but he did a piece from like with Israeli soldiers.
And he's talking to like some American from Baltimore who's talking about, he's like, yeah, my life's pretty good, blah, blah, blah, we got to go do this though.
You know, that guy's got something to lose. He doesn't want to go die.
He's going to turn tail. He's not going to want to be the first to go into some tunnel.
So I don't think Netanyahu can achieve his goal. And of course if he, so there's two things. If he doesn't, of course, his credibility is destroyed. He's going to get eaten alive by Israeli society that already hates him. And if he does, he's just going to go into a death trap.
He's going to lose a ton of soldiers.
And then, of course, you course, if Israel's already lost its Gaza
division on October 7th, one of its strongest,
and then if it really gets deep into Gaza,
well, it's then weakened in the back.
So then the north, you know, from the north of course Hezbollah, which is much stronger,
has way more military capability and manpower, you know, they can, like that's an existential threat if
Hezbollah gets involved. So I mean, I've been saying it's like if the,
you know, if the generals in the Pentagon, like 15 minutes from where I am in D.C., if they
have any sense, they need to like put a chain, put a leash on Netanyahu and like muzzle him and find some kind of negotiations.
One last thing I want to say, I don't think that Netanyahu is actually seeking to get
hostages out. It's the total opposite. Because if he get, if, like, there's no way to physically get those hostages out. It's the total opposite. Because if he get if like there's no way to physically get those hostages out doing some kind of operation going to these tunnels.
For one thing because they're a death trap like I said, but also because they're spread throughout the strip. Who knows where? The one elderly lady who was released,
she talked about, you know, she had to walk kilometers and kilometers through these tunnels.
So the Israelis have no idea where they are. So it's completely impossible. That's why they applied the Hannibal directive on,
for example, on BΓ©ri, that kibbutz, where that, you know, where like supposedly, you know,
there was like all these crazy massacres. Well, it turns out the Israelis actually ordered their
tanks to open fire on Israeli homes full of hostages and Kassam fighters.
It was like, basically, I think the Palestinians, Al Qasam, was like, look, we're going to get
a bunch of hostages and then negotiate
with the Israelis.
And the Israelis were like, you want to see crazy?
I'll show you crazy.
You know, I'm just going to kill everyone.
And so that's the same thing.
They're applying in the Gaza Strip, where it's like they want to
kill as many hostages as possible of their own of their own hostages.
And that's something called the Hannibal Directive, which is the...
Topshod, let's go!
In which they, uh,the Israeli... Top shot, let's go! In which they, any Israeli soldier that's taken captive by enemy forces gets, they try to kill.
Israel try to kill.
That's what they did in 2014 in the southern city, southern Gaza city of Rafa, a soldier named Hadar Golden,
got taken captive by Al Qasam, and Israel just opened up with a massive amount of firepower
and killed by way more than a hundred Palestinians and their own
soldier because, well what happened with Gila Shali who was taken captive in 2006 when he was
released in 2011, he was exchanged one soldier for more than 1,000 Palestinian prisoners, some of whom now
play very, very prominent roles in the Palestinian resistance in Gaza.
Now, Hamas has like 200 prisoners or captives and there are roughly 5,500 Palestinian
prisoners in Israeli jails.
So if you think about, you know, they got one for one soldier for like a thousand prisoners,
and now they have 200, they put the, if they, if the Israelis negotiate, well, that's it.
I mean, it's like you get all the prisoners back, you get the siege lifted, you get everything,
and Israel's like, no, we cannot do that, we just have
to go crazier. And this is a whole, this is all Zionist ideology. Even if you go back to
David Ben Gurion, who said in 1937, if I had the choice between saving all of the Jewish children of Europe and sending
them to Britain, or saving half of the Jewish children of Europe and sending them to
Palestine, I would choose the latter.
Because Zionism is a pagan cult where they were it's
all about worship of land rather than people. So Netanyahu doesn't have blood and soil.
Sorry. Blood and soil just to add to. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. It's exactly
it's exactly what it is, like fascism. So yeah, I mean, I think basically Zionism is in a death
spiral right now and their the leadership is you know Netanyahu is looking
out for his own career and he's going to go down in flames is really what I
think is happening and it's just you know Gaza has to suffer massively because of
it.
Yeah I mean I agree with that entirely. massively because of it.
Yeah, I mean, I agree with that entirely. And that's what I wanted to say is that
we can't make the assumption that this,
these are all rational actors, you know,
we can't make an assumption that there's a plan
and a desinist entity is somehow, you know,
seeing through the consequences of their actions.
What we're really witnessing is they are forced, according to their ideology, according
to the internal political situation, to promise
they're going to go in and eradicate Hamas. They don't have a plan. But my best guess would be,
this is the only thing I'll say, if they do have a plan, my guess would be that they want to annex the Gaza Strip and terrify and ethnically
cleanse the Palestinians living there to leave, which obviously isn't going to
work. So if that doesn't work, I mean we are in a moment of we are in an
irrational moment, the moment of complete self-destructive madness of the Zionist and even
unipolar ideology on America's part. I mean, there's nothing rational about our support
for Ukraine, well, increasing the possibility of World War III, so we can't assume the United
States and the Zionist entity are going to act in a rational way. So given that,
I mean, this really could escalate into an apocalyptic scenario if you ask me.
Yeah, absolutely. Maybe I can add a little bit on that.
Another thing to consider is, you know, of course, the prize is Jerusalem.
And you know, Hamas named this operation Al-Aqsa flood.
And, you know, the 2021 war was named after, named for Al-Aqsa.
So, you know, I mean, if it's, anyone who doesn't know,
Al-Aqsa plays an absolutely central role in Palestinian nationalism, you know, let alone for Muslims worldwide.
I mean, Palestinian Christians, you know, Palestinian atheists will defend Al-Axa.
It is like, it's like the Statue of Liberty times the, I don't know, like Washington Monument times
a million for Palestinians.
Like, we don't really have anything quite like that in the U.S. to that level.
For Zionists, it's like the final thing they want to conquer, even though it's completely forbidden.
I mean, Zionism altogether is completely forbidden in Judaism, but, you know, in Judaism,
it is completely forbidden to step toe onto the Aloxa compound, what Jews know is the temple mount.
But Zionists see everything is something to conquer, so they do that on a daily basis.
They send their goons up, you know, and go and like,
pummel Palestinians and worshippers.
And so for Netanyahu, the Alaxa compound has always been a place
where he'll let the fanatics go up there and cause trouble in order to get a Palestinian
reaction so then he can use that as a pretext to carry out whatever kind of war he wants.
I want to ask a quick question. war he wants.
I want to ask a quick question for any of our speakers.
You know today so we obviously saw the largest bombing campaign reportedly, you know I'm not
there who knows, but that's what everyone was saying.
Largest, most violent bombing campaign on Gaza yet. We saw Israeli forces advancing into
the West Bank and a pretty, what looked like, you know, a pretty large raid there with
a lot of armored vehicles and troops, well-armed
troops.
And now we're seeing this.
So obviously we know the intent of what they're doing and with the bombings and with the invasion or probing operations,
whatever it is.
When it comes to the West Bank, help me wrap my mind around this because last night we
held another Twitter space.
It was a really good Twitter space.
We debated a bunch of Zionists, Haas, and I did.
And it was so odd because, you know, my understanding is there's no real, like,
military force of Hamas, the equivalent at least close to what we see in Gaza that is in the West Bank.
There just isn't anything like that in the West Bank.
Anything is large or anything.
And these Zionists, and these some American conservatives, you know, they just, they say random shit.
They're like, oh, Hamas is in the West Bank.
Hamas is in the United States.
Hamas is coming through our border, you know, they sail this stuff to fearmonger.
But what is the true intent of these Israeli raids and also, you know, murders.
They've killed over well over a hundred people now in the West Bank.
Since October 7th, what is the intent of these these raids, violent raids, into the West Bank?
Yeah, I mean, there's no, there's no like organized armed resistance in the West Bank
in the way that there is in Gaza, of course, and that's because of the collaborator regime of the Palestinian authority, which
is purely a, which is neither Palestinian nor has any authority.
It's purely a creation of Israel and the United States, and it's Israel's greatest asset
because then you just have Palestinians policing, you know, you have like elite Palestinians policing the refugees and the villagers, you know, who believe in resistance.
Hamas has a ton of popularity in the West Bank, but, you know, it's ideologues, its leaders are locked up or killed or put in
Israeli prisons.
So I mean, there is, you know, in Janine, there was that, there's a small kind of plucky resistance
group called the Lions Den, if you remember
a couple months ago, was the Israelis hit really hard.
But you know, what'll happen?
There will be more.
There will be more, you know, young people, young men who want to take up arms. So it's part, it's partly I think
that, you know, I'm sure Israel is looking to stamp out any possibility of armed resistance,
but it's also pogroms. You know, I mean, the Israeli government is completely controlled by the likes of
Itamar Ben Kvir, who's, like, he's basically Israel's version of an Azavite. He's a
Kahanist. He's, I mean, you cannot get any more fanatical than that. He runs the police in the whole country.
So it's all about ethnic cleansing.
Just like it is in Gaza, they want to do the same thing to the West Bank and also to the
mixed cities in 48 Palestine, you know, inside Israel.
So, you know, watch for pogroms there. There was, that happened in 2021 also.
So I think that's really the goal. It's, you know, under the guise of war is ethnic cleansing. Um, just real
quick, I just want to kind of finish that point I was saying about Aloxa, because as you
mentioned, this, it's apocalyptic, and that's exactly what it is. These fanatics who have widespread broad support
among the Israeli mainstream in terms of taking over Al-Aqsa,
the ideological foundation is that they actually
believe in Apocalypse.
So like these biblical, kind of like Christian Zionist prophecies
that then were adopted by Jewish Zionists
who were actually atheistic,
they firmly, they are trying to make these prophecies into reality.
They're like, you know, God's not going to make the temple come down from the sky.
That's what Orthodox Jews believe.
They're like, we have to do it ourselves.
We have to go destroy this thing.
I mean, there have been literally,
I don't know, at least a dozen attempted terrorist attacks on the Aloxa compound, not basically
because they see that as like the big, well not red button, but golden button to like end
the whole thing, to just go to the final stage.
So that's like the documentary, you know, I'm working on is all about that.
You know, this is the group.
I basically infiltrated these groups when I was living there, you know, because I could do that this is the group I basically infiltrated these groups when I was living there
You know because I could do that because I'm a white American Jewish guy and my last name is Cohen
Which is like the priests?
They think that like if the Bible the temple were were rebuilt and I would be sacrificing with them.
So yeah, I mean, it's the terrifying thing is that there's a possibility that this could
be real and that the United States, I mean, the United States gets involved in a regional
war, consequences could be disastrous.
So I want to ask Syrian girl because, as we know, I think it was either today or yesterday,
Hamas and Iran actually went and met in Russia. They went to Moscow to meet with the Russian government.
And as we know, Russia has a vested interest in Syria. So knowing what you do about the Russian government. And as we know, Russia has a vested interest in Syria.
So knowing what you do about the Syrian conflict and the closeness of relations between
Russia and Syria, do you think there's a likelihood of Russian involvement in case Syria
gets dragged into this, or what do you think?
I think 100% yes.
And not only that, I can tell you for sure that the oil fields are going to be the target
of that, like the U.S. occupied oil fields, and there may even already be plans in place
for some kind of contingency to that end.
However, as we've seen, you know, Russia has been reluctant to be involved when it comes
to Israel.
I believe this is Zionist lobbying in Russia.
Exactly. But when it comes to the Americans, I think that they would take this as an opportunity,
especially after what happened with the war in Ukraine. We've lost Dan. I wanted to ask him. Basically I have some source and
he's saying that he, Dan made a comment that whenever negotiations are about
to happen, Israel starts going crazy and I have a source that's saying this is like not even going to be the full ground invasion
that they are going to go in, make some chaos and then pull back out and this is just a
face-saving measure.
So I wanted to ask, I wanted to pick off that kind of conversation,
but I also just wanted to mention that they're bombing heavily around the Indonesian hospital.
So we don't have to come up with some lies about air and missiles
because they're literally doing it in front of our eyes.
But go ahead, Samira.
Yeah, I just got access to that New York Times piece
that was released yesterday on all of the internal divisions
in the Israeli military establishment
on how to go about this.
And one issue that Netanyahu is having
is he doesn't want to commit to a full ground invasion
because the U.S. warned him not to start a regional war, not to do anything that would,
I guess, up the chances of a regional war.
I think that a full ground invasion would definitely increase the likelihood of say
Husba La and other regional actors getting involved.
So what Dan was saying I think is largely correct.
Secondly, the stated goals, so Netanyahu back in 2009, he expressed his intention to, you know,
one day go into Gaza, remove Hamas from power and extend PA authority to Gaza. So that could be a possible scenario.
Secondly, it could be just, you know, to take over Gaza.
Long-term goal could be just to take over Gaza, essentially.
I don't know what you guys think about that.
Well, there's nowhere for the civilians to go just saying, sorry, Sir Jackson.
No, I was going to say that, um, I see it's so funny, you know, you see these, um, you see these American,
and we're going to bring some more people up too.
So if you want to speak, you know, request to speak, be
sure to share this space, follow our speakers, all that stuff. And it's really great. We
got 10,000 people in here. I mean, let's let's get this higher than Mario an awful space.
That guy sucks. So we, you know, all these, I see American
conservatives and you know I sympathize with them on certain issues but and
definitely I sympathize with them on the issue of our border. We need to protect
our border but they're so caught up with sending all of these young brave men who could be protecting our border to Israel to protect their border.
I'm like, what the hell is going on here?
Isn't it crazy?
Yeah, but I'll say also, you know, I see these conservatives and here's what they do.
They say, well, why doesn't Jordan or why doesn't Egypt just take in the Palestinian refugees?
They don't want them, then we shouldn't have them.
No, no one should have Palestinian refugees. Palestinian people should
be able to stay on their land. The whole goal of Israel right now is to bomb them out of
their land so they leave and go to another country, Jordan, Egypt, whatever, or the United
States or the EU or the UK,
you know, they want them to turn into refugees and leave their land so Israel can move in
and take all of Gaza.
That's exactly, Jordan, Egypt, regardless of their, you know, the level of their, you know, their,
what's the word? How complicit they are in the occupation of Palestine, that's another question.
But when it comes to whether or not they should be refugees,
no, they shouldn't.
They should, the Palestinian people
shouldn't have to leave in the first place.
That shouldn't even be a question.
They should just stop getting bombed, tortured, imprisoned, and occupied and their land forcibly taken away.
It's as simple as that. If there was some...Haz brought this point up yesterday.
You know, I am personally sympathetic, deeply sympathetic,
and stand with the Chinese government.
I think they're doing a great job.
I think Xi Jinping is an incredible leader.
But if the Chinese government, one day,
Jijin thin orouin or a future leader,
decided that they were going to start
Occupying American territory somehow and You know, they were gonna tell Americans get the hell out. This is our land now
We have more money than you, so this is our land now. We have bigger bombs than you do. We know we got Russia's hypersonic
Okay. Well, do you think americans would be like canada please let us in you
know the canada is so bad for not letting all you know millions tens of millions
of americans in when we're being occupied by trying
no americans would say i'm gonna stay in my home i'm gonna grab would say, I'm going to stay in my home, I'm going to
grab my rifle, and I'm going to fight to defend my land, my home, everything like that.
So it's really insane that anyone would put forward the question, why are these other countries not taking in refugees?
There should be no refugees.
There should be no bombing and they shouldn't be forced out of their land.
Yeah, I mean, you know, this is the problem.
It's really simple.
You know, we could not get a single one of these so-called conservatives or whoever they are to give us that maybe we'll have a debate
segment of this and and try to actually get this out of someone a simple question. Why is it in America's self-interest to prop up the Zionist entity? How does that benefit your ordinary American?
How does that benefit the average person? I'm not talking about guys in Wall Street or these big companies who rob everyone and don't give anything back.
I'm talking about the average
person in America and the problems that they have. Why are we giving half of
our tax of our money in taxes to the government to send to Israel? We couldn't
get a single person to ask us. So I I mean, this is a really revealing moment.
Everyone who's a shill of the Zionist density, if you ask me, politically speaking,
they've just exposed themselves, that they are more loyal to an artificial institution
that's paying them than they are to the American people.
I mean, how could an independent political thinker or voice defend America's involvement
in this conflict?
It makes no sense to me.
Yeah, completely.
And I just wanted to speak on that talking point coming from U.S. conservatives.
Well, first and foremost, these countries like Egypt and Jordan, they don't want to be
complicit in the forced displacement and ethnic cleansing
of Palestinians, period.
But the reason why I'm hearing this from conservatives mostly, it's really just an American talking
point.
I'm not hearing it from any other side, and I think it's because they don't understand geopolitics unless
they project American politics and our political conditions, our unique
political conditions, you know, like regarding the border and everything on to
other countries. So that's how they're capable of understanding that.
But thankfully, we're not really hearing this
from any other political faction.
It's just American conservatives.
Yes, and I brought on, I don't, Mr. Habib, I believe, I don't know how to pronounce
your first in my apologies, but I know that you've been in some of Mario spaces, I believe
you mentioned that you're a Palestinian last night.
What do you make of this ground invasion?
What do you make of the situation?
Oh, thank you, Jackson.
I'm a born and bred Palestinian from the Gaza Strip.
I lived most of my life there, and I'm in England now.
And fortunately, I was in the Gaza Strip.
Last month I took my kids for the first time ever
to see the Ocupat territories and to meet the family.
It was really pleasant experience.
We're devastated of what we're seeing and witnessing now. I'll be
disciplining what is happening. Guys a thousand people want to speak because
this is just this is just the nature of my people. Arabs are like this they just
they want to speak. They're all going to say the same thing but they still want to speak.
They're all going to say the same thing, but they still want to speak.
If you're Arab, all of our fathers, let me say, oh let me speak, let me say.
You know, can't let everyone speak.
Because I believe he's paid to disseminate Israeli propaganda.
The way he's managing that is space is very, very pro-Israeli.
All the speakers he's trying to get to speak are the pro-Israeli pro-Zionist blah blah blah and he's
really silencing any Palestinian voices and I had to spend five hours and he
didn't allow me to speak. He really was awful so please whenever you could just
exposed this Marinoion awful guy speak I
think the best way to expose him and whether the propaganda that they put
they're having you know Israeli state of ministry people speak and spew propaganda
about beheaded babies, about
you know, rapes, children. It's discussing what they're saying, you know,
because these are the sorts of things the Israelis do to the Palestinians and
they're just, they're doing it and then it's it's projection. They're saying, oh, you know, they're doing this.
No, they're not.
So I think the best way to expose all of them
is to get bigger Twitter spaces than them
and become the new hub of information on this app,
which I think we're doing a very good job.
But we've got like 9,000, 10,000 people here and whatnot.
So keep sharing this everybody. Thank you for being here.
I agree, please, if you could just do this space every day, at least to get more people, to be aware of what's happening.
So I just lost contact with my family in the southern parts of Gaza.
We live in the central of Gaza city, in the western part of the Gaza city, which is being
bombed now.
So my family lived to the
southern parts I lost contact with them. I managed to speak to one of my
cousins who got an Egyptian phone line, it's a Vodafone because he's in Rafa town
on the border with Egypt. You can get some signal and you could speak.
And it's very horrendous what is happening across the Gaza Strip.
So he managed to brief me about what is happening in Raffa Town, which is also being exposed to heavy bombings, but maybe all of us are
only tuning in on Jazeera to see what's going on.
But maybe it's good if I can explain a little bit about Gaza, if maybe some people would
have questions or I could maybe speak about us as Palestinians from Gaza
and back your ground of how we lived and they heard in those stories we had.
I was born in the Gaza Strip and I lived through the first Intifada,
1987 and also the second Intifada, which is in 1996.
It's called the Tunnel, the Intifada of the Tunnel.
This is the second, but unofficially the second, because the third one, which is the second,
is the one in 2001 when Ariel Chironi broke
into Alaxa Mosque and did this Intifada, which is, in my view, still ongoing until this moment.
From 2001, the Israelis started to use all this mighty American weapons against us
the innocent civilians of the Gaza Strip.
I have a quick question for you.
Sure.
And sorry for interrupting, but, you know, paint this picture for me as an American in our audience.
American, I mean, and it's really for a lot of people across the world right now,
and that's why I'm so worried about going to war against the full Arab world
because the Arab world and their backers and you know supporters in Russia for example
that I mean they have so much military experience on the ground, boots on the ground, and Russia in terms of air superiority, air
sororities in Syria were insane and Ukraine they're insane daily.
This is a dark question, but in America we simply don't see the truth, we simply don't
see the truth about war, We don't know what it's like anymore
And that's a that's a good thing, but for the Palestinian people and there's a bit of a blunt way to ask this question
But like how like does every palace because I have a few Palestinian friends I grew up with and you know they
Also guys I'm gonna turn donations on
Don't worry about sending them just when I'm speaking don't
But in the in the meantime, I welcome it, obviously, you know, crabbing it up.
So just when I'm speaking, you know, because it'll go through the phone, but I'm not speaking
right now, so when I'm not speaking, you know,
that's what I want to let you know.
I've got all the friends around me.
Every one of them lost one of their like family members.
Like, for example, I can give you a name,
El Astel family, we have somebody in London. He's a professor in Cambridge.
He lost, is one of the biggest families, is a clan. He lost literally 90 of his family members.
Another close friend of mine, he lost his parents,
his brothers and sisters. And it's a long list and now we're trying to sue the government
he had because, as you knowthe the British government position is
awful and I'm not shocked about the British government because as you know
their foreign policy is totally attached to the American foreign policy and it's
a laugh when it comes to the British foreign policy I'm very critical of our
awful foreign policy in the UK here.
But back to Gaza and what's happening in the Gaza trip, maybe I can just tell you what
I saw and what I expect to happen, you know. Last time I was in Gaza in 2009 and then I moved to the UK I
covered the war in 2008, 2009 and I saw the the American jets bombing us and I
covered it as a freelance journalist that also worked for some of the outlets.
The Israelis in that war used mostly everything in the arsenals and they couldn't really
move an inch.
They tried to break into some parts of Gaza and I think they're going to copy some
of the methods that they've done in 2009 because they managed to advance
almost that 2008, 2008, 2000, almost a kilometer, one and a half kilometer into
the Gaza city of some parts of it and then they lifted quickly
the couldn't treaty it was just maybe over two hours. So speaking of the ground
invasion maybe I can give an insight in a bit about what could happen and
yes what kind of people us there we are, we're not easy people.
Maybe you could ask me who you are as people of Gaza.
We're the most stubborn and difficult and resilient people.
And something that has made me laugh.
When I hear that the Americans, the Delta Force had the troops. I really laughed Jackson.
Said what the I saw that. You know I saw this is not Rambo Silvester Stallone in
Vietnam you know no no it's like it's like why why so Americans are picking a
wars with you know yeah the Palestinian some of the most It's like, it's like why, why, so Americans are picking awards with,
you know, yeah, the Palestinian, some of the most stubborn, strong-spirited people have,
you want to phrase it, yeah, you know, the Russians, I'd say, are maybe even more so.
How do I know I'm engaged to one right now?
They're very strong-spirited and stubborn people. I know that personally. So we'll get back to you and speak
about this situation. And by the way, I love my fiancΓ© dearly. But let's get to some of our other speakers and we'll come back and talk about the ground
invasion more.
Yeah, I wanted to bring up Farras.
Foras is here a speaker.
He's in the West Bank right now, so I'd like to hear updates from him.
Go ahead for us.
Thanks for joining.
Hey, Samira, thanks, Jackson, and a Syrian girl and Sama Hazelindin and old speakers.
Yeah, the, the West Bank has been really escalating a lot and you know it's
been escalating actually for years but ever since the 7th of October it's it's been there's been a very serious uptick in the
West Bank in terms of raids, in terms of settler terrorist attacks.
You know, for people who don't know, the West Bank is just riddled with the Israeli settlers.
They're mostly armed, kind of the ones that are in the smaller kind of settlements, you
know, a bit fanatic and they want to basically, you know, they've ethnically cleansed 21 villages just this year since January.
And it's ongoing.
There's barely, like, there's almost no Hamas in the West Bank it says there's barely any
prisons for them. Yeah and that's actually what I wanted to ask you what is the
stated goal in the West Bank because there's barely any Hamas like you said so
what are the Israelis saying? It's the same goal It's settler colonialism and so on the ground there's no
there's no kind of from the settlers at least and and even from the Israeli government rhetoric
in Hebrew and whatever it it's pretty clear.
They're saying like, hey, the West Bank is Jewish land, you know, this is going to be
a land for Jews, and basically you have the finance minister, the current finance minister
actually put to the Palestinians in a public statement in a document he shared saying you have three options
You either flee to Jordan or one of the other countries and we'll help you do that if you want to leave
Or you can basically be a sub you know, be a worker, a slave, or whatever.
He has this messianic, fanatic, like, views.
Where you have, like Arabs can, or Gentiles will, and Arabs will be the slaves of, you know, I don't know, I don't get it basically
but that's what he said. You have, you can be slaves or we can, we're the bullet.
That's your three options, you know, so so we're either kill you, you can either
work for us. Oh, and the slave part, we have to also, there's a caveat that we
have to also, there's a caveat at that, we have to pronounce
your loyalty to Israel as well and, you know, recognize it as a Jewish state.
So you have to kind of pronounce your...
You know, you just described the Jewish ISIS?
Everything you just said is the Jewish army. The slaves, the killing, the Jewish ISIS? Everything you just said is the Jewish army, the slaves, the
killing, the ethnic cleansing, the land grabbing for religion. All ISIS.
It's, yeah, this is where, the, the, the people who've been, like, this has been the same project, right, since before 1947,
even 48, 48 was the big like ethnic cleansing and genocide campaign that was the biggest one
that took over 80% of Palestine depopulated nearly a million Palestinians,
but even before that they were planning it, they were kind of overt about it.
And this happened over every few years, after 67 as well, and this is going on, thethe neck but goes on till today it's just
about how fast or slow it gets in terms of in terms of the current like you
know who's running the Israeli government it's not something that's ever stopped though so that's that's really the the crux of
the issue so there's a fundamentalist extremist position that we as the
indigenous Palestinians are at odds with just because we're born and
we happen to be born as Palestinians and live in this land and they claim that this land is
Jewish land so they say, yeah, we've come back home, it's been 3,000 years and you need to leave,
you know, so that's essentially what we're up against really.
Like it's not even a...
And they have an army, their nuclear-powered army, they have a a nuke or multiple nukes. They have, you know,
one of the strongest air forces, probably like first or second in the Middle East, all
types of artillery, all from US defense military contractors.
So they have like an UK and stuff.
So I want to bring up, if there's any Zionists who want to speak, by the way, pro-Israel
voices, I welcome you to come and challenge any of us to debate on this subject or any related
subjects because by the way if you're in the speaker request and you're not a Zionist
just kindly X out because we want Zionists to come up and do some debates if they're brave enough or naive enough and
I can invite
Yeah, I sure do that. I'm especially interested in hearing a single argument for why it's in America's self-interest to support
the Zionist entity. That's the one I'm really interested in.
Bring Nogah here. Depends which America, if you're talking about the military
industrial complex America. No, no, when I say American self-interest, I mean it for the people, for the American people, how does it benefit us?
Yeah, no, you've got none of that. Yeah, because they couldn't, they couldn't really, you know, the funny one I heard yesterday was they said,
when Hamas is done with Israel they're gonna come
attack Americans. They hate Americans too because they hate our way of life and
they hate how we have hamburgers and you know so that was pretty funny but I
want to hear I want to is there any is there any argument you know I want to hear, I want to, is there any, is there any argument, you know, I want to hear one.
It's crickets. I just brought up one person, Jeremy, I don't know what your situation is if you're a
Zionist or not, but if you want to speak and debate, cool.
Let's bring up.
So if you're not a Zionist, exit out of the speaker requests.
If you are requests to speak and you can come to debate.
He's one of ours, he's not a Zionist.
He's an Amp his Zionist Jew.
Okay, so I... But he's a good one. He's on Abdesignist Jew. Okay, so I...
But he's a good one. He's on Mario Spaces, so let him get one line in, I would say.
So I also brought up the Shah's man, because I know that he does support Israel, so I want to hear his arguments as well. Welcome to the space. What's going on?
Sure, I'm going to keep it short and simple sweet as I can.
The proxies of the Islamic Republic have killed
600 American troops through supporting enhanced IEDs being
manufactured and used by these proxies.
Any proxy of the Islamic Republic of Iran is a national security threat and must be destroyed. I will support the
IDF until Hamas no longer exist.
What about Hussein? Sweet and short, hold on, I want to ask a question. Were these
American troops like in Idaho just chilling? Like where were they?
By curiosity, like was it Iowa or was it Wisconsin?
Where were the troops at?
Sure, real quick.
First, are you an American national or citizen?
Just for context.
Yeah, yeah.
All right. Well, as an American national or citizen just for context. Yeah I am. All right, well as an American
national or citizen, I think when America decides that for its national
security interests, it's invited by Iraq over to help stabilize the situation
after the war that you can have an opinion on either way.
Wait, wait, hold on. I have to, I have to slightly, I have to mildly object, I have to mildly object to the notion that the United States was invited to be in Iraq and that moreover we're there for our
national security. I just fail to see what that has to do with our national
security exactly. And the Iraqi Parliament actually asked you to leave already?
So what do you say? Either way, regardless if you agree or don't with the fact that we went
there to take out Saddam or not, that's your opinion, but at various times we were invited there
for peacekeeping missions and security missions by the Iraqi federal forces.
During those time periods, Iranian proxy militias have killed and maimed over 600 U.S. troops
throughout the region.
Now, if it's your stance that you believe in an isolationist America, that's your own belief.
At the end of the day, I highly question the motivations of anyone that may disagree with
American troops being deployed. So I just want to ask you, because I'm not an expert on international law, but I just want to know
what gives any country, let alone America, the right to act as the world police.
You're saying it's either isolationism or we're going to go police others. I mean, where does that come from? What gives us the right to do that?
Exactly. Regardless or not if you believe in the right of the US to, well, one, the invasion of
Iraq. So I understand your reasoning, so let me break it down for you.
If you were German, hold on, let's also address the fact that the Iraq war was not actually
about American interests.
Let's deal with- Hold on, hold on, hold on, before we get there, I just want to understand
the Shaw's reasoning.
So regardless of whether or not it was a just occupation
or an unjust occupation, we should wholeheartedly support
the military operations of our government
because it's our government.
Well, I would not like to be,
I would not like to see you as a German citizen in 1942.
You know, I wonder how you would feel about the actions of your government committing atrocities
and attacking people everywhere.
I mean, I'm sure you'd support it because it's your government after all. And if anything befalls, if any misfortune befalls the where mocked, I guess that's grounds
to consider, you know, the Allied forces to be a threat to the,to the German people right or what would be your response
to that? Sure my response to that is you actually are interested in now
specifically just talking about the reasons why we went into Iraq we can
change the topic but yeah Israel is the reason you went into Iraq that's
precisely that's precisely the reason we went into Iraq actually the reason
wait wait wait wait let's let's let the Shaw,
you know, let's let the Shaw draw his own, his own misery and feet here.
Let's let him explain his position.
Let Haas and Shaw go at it. Go ahead.
You gotta unmute too. Sorry. It's glitching. Okay, you should be able to go now.
Either way, I don't want to dwell on the topic too much.
I want to focus more on Israel.
End of the day, this information is out there.
Anyone can read about it.
After we kicked Iraq out of Kuwait, they also did not get the message, the memo, that going around,
you guys are talking about police in the region, etc. Why are you guys not
holding the same level of scrutiny and critique, which is yeah, you know, you guys
can have that scrutiny, you guys can have that critique, because we went into Kuwait
with a UN-backed mission, but when we went into Iraq, we kind of did our own national coalition.
Maybe you can question the validity of that. But what's the criticism, what's the scrutiny on Saddam getting ready to invade Saudi Arabia?
I mean, come on with that.
Well, even in the event of that happening, that's for that region to decide its own fate.
And that is a regional affair of people who have a shared culture, a shared civilization,
shared borders, shared geography, shared history, and that's for them to sort out.
Why does that have anything to do with us if Saddam wants to invade Saudi Arabia?
I mean, what does that have to do with an American, you know, living in and
getting by, what does that have to do with it?
Sure, Haas, didn't you just also reference the German Nazi wars of aggression in Europe? It sounds like you actually I guess that would be relevant if you would sit on their side
You're talking about
Shot shot look look look look I know I know logic is not your strong suit
But if you actually apply my logic consistently it might apply if you're an Iraqi citizen
who objects to that act of aggression, sure.
But I as an American, what do I have to do with Iraq invading Saudi Arabia?
Why should I care? At the end of the day, if you look at it, post World War II, this unprecedented
rise in global wealth, even in the economic south, all over the world, is guaranteed by the
United States allowing unprecedented global interconnections of the
economy.
Okay, listen, you don't have to give us your imperialist babble, your nonsense buzzwords
where you're talking about the unprecedented growth for only a
handful of countries and I'll name them right we have Japan we have South
Korea we have Western Europe and we have we have Singapore we have Singapore
we have all the countries that were part of the Marshall Plan and
everyone else, everyone else did not benefit from the United States whatsoever.
Who else benefited besides those beneficiaries? Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
This is getting, mute the city for a second,
mute the city for a second,
because I really need to bask in what I just heard.
You claim that India is a beneficiary
of the post-war U.S. economic Bretton Woods World Order,
when India has remained a shithole even to this day
and has not really seen any major benefit whatsoever. Now as for China's rise during that time period,
I have to really laugh because China wasn't part of the Bretton Woods system.
So how could US dominance secure China's rise when it wasn't even part of the Bretton
Woods?
Or are you talking about the trade agreements between China and the United States, which
were very much done out of U.S. capitalist self-interest
and not helping China, which was a trade agreement, not the benevolence of U.S. military power
protecting China. So you're talking a lot of nonsense when you're saying that the whole world benefited from
unipolar imperialism when the reality is at best you could say that the beneficiaries
of the Marshall Plan did.
But how, what, how, for how long, right? When those countries became self-reliant to an extent,
how could you say that they need U.S. military force to protect them?
And if they do need U.S. military force to protect them,
they probably don't exist, don't deserve to exist as states to begin with,
actually. But go ahead. Just like the Shaw, the Shaw, if he needs a US support in order to rain,
probably doesn't deserve to be in power, right? And that's why they got his ass out of there.
And you're here in America, calling yourself the Shaw's man who wants America, my country,
to go and restore an unpopular dynasty halfway across the world.
You're a tether. You're a tether come to America
to leach off of our tax dollars to avenge your beef that you have with the Iranian government.
And that's where you're just like a Zionist, right? It's just like the Zionist. They want us, Americans, to go
and deal with their problems that have nothing to do with us. Go do it yourself, dude. You
go to Iran and do it, good luck. Do it yourself. Leave my country out of it. You are a tether.
Go ahead.
All right, hi, so I mean for a man who doesn't like buzzwords, you're really good
to use it. I'm regardless if you're curious about why I have that name. It has
nothing to do with wanting any foreign country to come into Iran and do Jack Didley.
The foreign support for the Islamic Republic already exists when unprecedented billion
dollar per head ransom deals are done, and when the Iranian people already striving on
their own for having democracy are constantly
squashed and absolutely you see any backing down, you see any more further isolation of
the regime?
No.
You see the UN bringing the regime over all the darn time
you see the regime getting billions of dollars and then on the machine this
proxy war
and then people let me guess let me guess joe biden is propping up the
is lamic republic of ir. Is that your argument?
It's more complicated than that, if you actually are curious.
There's a 7-4 article about the Iran lobby for anyone who actually wants to read something.
Okay, so Iran, one of the most heavily sanctioned countries on earth has America in its back pocket and
is exacting billions of dollars of American tax dollars to go and help them.
I mean, do you expect anyone to believe this nonsense, this slop, this total gibber?
Is anyone ever convinced by that ever? slop, this total gibber.
Is anyone ever convinced by that ever?
Appeasment and isolationism only yield a more hostile environment for America's interests.
That's going to be true every time.
I agree.
Why have we appeased Israel so much to the point where we're going to get dragged into World War III for them? That's interesting.
Why are we appeasing the Zionist entity? So you're calling it the Zionist entity? I think that more than anything belies your interpretation of history.
Oh, in case you're confused, hold on, in case you're confused, full disclosure. I do not
recognize any country called Israel as a real country. It's not a real country. It's a completely
fake entity, which is not
going to exist in 10 years. Okay? So let's not talk about quote-unquote Israel, which
is the most fake, pathetic project of nation-building in history, the most disastrous failure, which
will be in the dustbin of history alongside fascism as a vain failure
to create a genocidal project, anti-human project.
But yes, Israel, I want to repeat this in front of 8,000 people. Quote unquote, Israel has no right to exist.
None to be clear.
I also wanted to ask the Shazman a question.
I want some clarity on your position.
You have Iranians stand with Israel, the hashtag Iranian Stand with Israel in your bio.
I think the idea is that your argument is that Iranians are not naturally pro-Palestinian and that they were duped by the Islamic government into being
pro-Palestinian and they're naturally more pro-Israel is that they were duped by the Islamic government into being pro-Palestinian and they're naturally more pro-Israel, is that correct?
My stance is that Iranians are naturally pro-Israel, it's just the case.
It's what I personally see the most coming out of Iran when I look
at non-regime-controlled events, when I look at arenas where the people can freely express
themselves such as at sporting events, you know, it's like one of the most accessible forums for democracy in any nation
because of the anonymity involved. Yeah, I see the Iranian people of their own free will
going ahead and expressing their sympathies. As an Iranian diaspora, I think I'm duty bound to reflect the
voices I see in Iran.
Just like the Cuban diaspora is representing the will of the Cuban people against the
tyrannical communist government.
Right?
Yeah. As I know that, like you are going to be taking those stances.
Anyway, I do appreciate that I was able to speak here for some time.
If anyone else has any specific questions for me, I'd be glad, but otherwise I think I'm
going to go.
How does it feel to be a traitor?
Hold on.
Hey, Syrian girl, I'm not gonna tolerate being spoken to that way.
I actually do have a question for you,
because you started off saying something along the lines
that Iran supporting Hezbollah and Hamas is bad
for American interests. Can you elaborate on that?
Sorry, could you repeat that? Yeah, you started off saying something along the lines of
I think Iran supporting Hamas and Hezbollah
is bad for American interests. Can you elaborate on that please? Samar, come on.
Do I really need to? No, I'd like to hear your argument. Let's let American interests to mean the interests of American people, not Wall Street
and the military industrial economy, just the average American.
Like a guy walking around at Walmart or you know, a guy eating a hamburger at McDonald's.
Like why, okay, imagine a guy right now at McDonald's, he's eating a hamburger.
Why is Iran a threat to him?
Go ahead.
Here, real quick.
Haas, Samira.
What's your views on Daesh?
What's your view on Islamic State?
Okay, hold on. Can you answer my question
because the CIA and Israel helped ISIS in Syria, so comparing Iran to Daesh is complete
nonsense. But please answer my question. Imagine American, perhaps they're obese, perhaps they're
not, in Walmart, on their scooter,
I'm being stereotypical of course, or a guy, you know, having a walk, having a jog in the
park, Burger King, let's do Burger King.
American at Burger King having a hamburger.
Because I like Burger King, right?
I'm boycotting McDonald's
because there's Zionists. So Americans sitting at Burger King having a burger.
Now explain, go ahead, go up to him right now and say Iran is a threat to you!
You have to stop what you're doing and make sure we fight Iran and help Israel.
Give your tax money to Israel.
Why is he under threat and under siege by Iran?
Explain it to us.
All right.
Well, I mean, you've already set up the lines.
I think I wonder why you set up the line of take out the military from the American
people. I mean at the end of the game. Well, no, no, no, because the American military is supposed to
protect us, right? So you have to explain how we're being protected. What is the threat
that we're facing that we need to be protected so that guy at Burger King is not going
to face a threat.
So explain why he needs us to be in the Middle East or else him and his family are going
to have a horrible outcome.
Like what is he being protected from exactly?
Can you explain? Sure. In Hezbollah's case, they've done a lot of bombings that have caused many American lives.
Where? Where?
I mean, hey man, Wikipedia is a free resource.
No, no, can you name one of those?
I'm pretty sure. Here, I'll pull it up right now on Wikipedia since your seems not to work.
Okay.
Let's do that on his below bombing.
If anyone else has another question that they're fine without this normal conversation between people being AP-style format source.
I'll be glad to answer why we're-
No, no, I'm just asking like a single example.
Because it sounds like all of those bombings probably involved armed
troops that were on a land they had no business being in and if anything there were
let me say yeah if listen listen if Washington politicians hey hey hey listen Palavi
call me Humeini right now, okay?
Because I'm in, you have to understand I'm the host.
I can meet you in any time.
So, Palavi, please, you're in exile, I'm Jomeni here.
I'm in control.
Now let me ask you a question, okay?
If Washington politicians send young Americans to go die overseas, the responsibility
is on them.
It's not on people defending their territory and defending their homeland because that's
an expected and natural response.
If you go overseas as an occupier and something happens to you,
blame the politicians that sent you there. Don't blame the natural human instinct to defend your territory
because if anyone, God forbid, came on American territory to occupy Americans, they would have the same and meet
the same results. So this is just a basic form of mutual recognition of humanity
that you can't sidestep without being a hypocrite. So I want to know how Americans are threatened by Iran
or by Hezbollah. You haven't given me anything besides how American troops in the Middle
East and more specifically America's strategic military industrial complex and Wall Street interests in
the region. How does that benefit us though? That's what you have to establish.
How does it benefit and normal American going on about their day trying to pay
their bills? Go ahead. I think I'm going to take that opportunity to just say that in any space in which people try to put up these boundaries, I mean you don't even understand how or why U.S. troops were in Lebanon yourself. The actual real government of Lebanon wanted
them there. And any time you find a wedge group of some people of guns and arms and bombs,
you're going to say that represents the real people of the region. Why? Because they're going
to kill you for it. Well, I mean,
hey man, anytime that anyone's anywhere, you can find some guy with a gun and a bomb and
kill them and say, hey, you should just leave. Hey, you should just back out. You know
what that sounds like to me? What are you
talking about? What are you talking about? What is this stuff? What is this gibber about a
guy with a gun and a bomb? Your absolute nonsense of this argument that you state with people
defending their land? No, the actual people, the sovereign governments
invite the U.S. to these places. But hold on, even in the events, even in the cases where that is
true, and you have to give examples of that because there's really not a lot. In Lebanon, the...
Yeah, but here's the thing.
But here's the thing.
Okay, sure, sure.
So, I don't know if you seem really ignorant of American history.
So there was a time where America was part of the British Empire and the Patriots, that's
what they were called defending their homeland, were fighting against the government and
to kick them out.
So it's not always the case that a government represents the people.
The very existence of the United States is proof of that.
So in Lebanon, when you have a government that doesn't represent the people that are living there,
and they invite the US to come and help them,
and the people there are not having any of that,
and they see you as an extension of this tyrannical government they want to get
rid of. Yeah, blame the politicians that send them there. That doesn't mean it's the people.
That's the crux of this argument. And moreover, you're also ignoring, you're also ignoring, you're
also, you're also ignoring, someone, someone mute this guy, can't control himself.
You're also ignoring how these governments, a lot of the time, are installed by the U.S. Deep State.
So that's the problem. I mean, would the so-called Maronite tyrannical state,
a government in Lebanon, have been able to sustain itself, the phalangist militias and
forces, by the way, irregular forces, would they have been able to sustain
themselves in that status quo without Western imperialism? Hell, no, they wouldn't have.
You know, so when you're talking about Lebanon as an example, or any other example, for
that matter, of U.S. troops needing to come and defend some
tyrant, you're giving an example of proof that we don't belong there, we
shouldn't be there. Any government that requires foreigners to defend itself in
that case when it's not being flooded by foreign forces itself
as in the case of Syria probably deserves to be toppled actually so go ahead
Jackson check your direct message
chart for us.
Luis Casua.
No, go ahead.
Go ahead.
Sorry.
I was just talking to Jackson.
Either way, Haas, I'm sure you feel the same way about Don Bass, right?
No foreign troops.
All right.
What do you mean Don Bass?
The Don Bass Republics, is that what you're talking about, that they need foreign support
to sustain themselves?
Well, those people likely want to join the Russian Federation, and the situation in Ukraine
is completely different anyway because
those are actual Russian speakers with Russian citizenship.
We're not going to get into the argument about Ukraine by the way because I've had this a
million times.
But anyway, that's a regional thing.
Even then, it's a regional thing. How does it justify to come halfway across the fucking world to poke into people's business?
You have no history to the region. You have no ties there.
Why are Washington politicians sending Americans to go die for no reason in the sand across halfway across the world. It makes no sense
Anyway, I'm just happy that American real conservatives are smartening up. They're no longer, you know,
guzzling down this isolationism at all costs.
Real American conservatives are people like me.
And at the end of the day, what do I support?
My grandfathers, they fought in World War II alongside the Red Army to defeat Nazism.
My ancestors sailed here on the Mayflower. They wrote the Mayflower Compact.
They fought in the American Revolution.
They would, they're rolling in their graves right now, watching our countries and young,
brave American men and women and transgenders to go and die in wars for profit for imperial
antics against the Russians who are our allies in the past and against
you know the Palestinian people who are who are fighting a great plate right now
so I don't want to hear any of this not so the conservatives he's talking about
if American conservative let's just put it this way, if American conservatives like me
are quote-unquote have stopped guzzling the nonsense of isolationism which, okay so America,
people say America first, conservative say America first.
I don't care about America first.
I care about America only.
Why should any of my taxpayer dollars be going to Israel, Ukraine, any other country for that matter?
I only care about America.
I don't care if Israel exists, if it doesn't, if it fights a war,
if it loses, I don't care about that. What I care about is that none of our dollars are
going to any other countries and that their focus is on American issues. And we can debate
about how we solve these issues, but they need to be focused on American issues and we can debate about how we solve these issues but
they need to be focused on American issues. If American conservatives don't agree
with me why am I the single most popular person on Twitter right now? I'm more
popular than Elon Musk. I'm more popular than Joe
Biden. I'm the most viral account on Twitter for the past month. So if
Americans don't agree with me, how come I'm the most popular person in America
right now? I just want to say the people, the conservatives he's referring to actually, see, I come from
a foreign family and I humble myself.
I would never ask the people of this, I'm new to this country, I'd never ask them to go
and sort out some sectarian business halfway across the world.
I'm humble. I'm trying to learn from this country and acclimate to it, right?
But the conservatives he's talking about are a bunch of foreign tethers.
There are a bunch of people who come halfway across the world, or even near us, whether it's Cuba, whether it's Iran,
whether it's the Zionists from Israel, they come here and they say, oh, we're conservatives,
but we want America to go sort out their business.
No, these are the losers and rejects of the world who failed to sort out the business
they wanted to in their own countries, so they're trying to get us involved.
That's not conservatism.
That's just a fucking scam and con artist nonsense, okay?
You want to go deal with your issues from where you came from you go back and you deal with it yourself
The good people of this country who I have come to very much like and appreciate
I don't think they deserve to go and die and suffer and give their tag harder and tax dollars so that you can go and have your high status
position that you may have had under the Shah or something.
You know, so you really need to stop saying this is the real conservatives.
This isn't real conservatives.
This is Falun Gong people from China China, bunch of nonsense flunkies
and rejects and freaks from circus freaks from all around the world trying to come here
and have us sort out their foreign business. I mean, think you should be deported to be
completely honest. You're not committed to America's best interest. You're not
here to contribute to this country in any constructive way. You're just here to
drive us into war to leach off of our hard-earned tax dollars and actually send Americans to go and put themselves
in harm's way.
I mean, it's complete nonsense.
How is that conservatism?
What exactly are you conserving?
You're not a conservative.
You're someone trying to avenge.
You're a restorationistist a foreign restorationist. I'm sorry dude
I'm having none of it. I mean for those mentally ill American
You know have senile boomers who who eat up the epic times Falun Gong slop and Zionist slop like pigs
at the trouf those people are just mentally ill that doesn't represent
reasonable normal Americans okay you're just taking advantage of the elderly
actually you're taking advantage of the elderly, actually. You're taking advantage of the elderly.
You don't even know how to tie their shoes anymore. And they're going, oh yeah, I support Israel.
Yeah, I support the Cuban resistance. Yeah, I support the CCP is the worst. They need to be in a retirement home, and you're taking the CCP is the worst.
They need to be in a retirement home and you're taking advantage of them and taking their
social security benefits and to go into your causes.
So this is the issue.
Don't talk about American conservatives when you're talking about taking advantage of the
elderly.
You foreign alien subversive
elements. That's what you are. Seditious even.
Guys, I think we should move back to Gaza.
Do you want to accuse me of stealing people's lunch money too? What was that rent, man? That was, my God.
I'm just sick of the foreign takeover of America.
Yes, you you you actually quite literally are stealing people's lunch money and you're sending it to Israel and to Ukraine
So yeah, I'll accuse you of that too. Sure. I mean, real quick, I think my welcome,
I was happy I got it, but I won't run it too short.
I didn't get my answer though.
I asked, you know, how did you ask?
Yeah, so I'm just gonna ask one question.
It's very simple if you can quickly answer it.
How does Iran's support for Hezbollah and Hamas
affect or negatively affect the American people?
I mean, unlike cause, I think when Americans are killed
by a nation state, unfortunately
is occupied by a death cult, is all I can describe the Islamic Republic as, when their
express mission is to kill Americans, when their express mission is to kill Americans, where kill Americans anywhere their expression missions where what kill Americans
anywhere they can if what's your evidence what's your evidence okay right
now Jan she'd shamad was on a trip with a layover in Dubai. He was an American national. He was kidnapped from
Dubai. Now he's sitting in the Islamic Republic.
What was his name? Because it sounded like he was a foreign tether who was a traitor to his
homeland, actually.
Now, Jamshed, Shah remarried. He was an American national, he's covered under the Levinson Act.
I personally have never met an American with a name like that, and I've lived here my
whole life.
I've never heard an American with a crazy ass name like that.
Hey Jackson, you know, conservatism is a set of values. It has nothing to do with
bigotry about the fact that we are... I am bigoted to leeches actually. You don't want to come here
and benefit America in any way. Don't come here. You want to come and bring all that baggage and nonsense.
Just go back.
Come and be constructive.
Contribute, contribute, contribute to this country.
Don't come and leach off of us, contribute to it.
Man, I'm not gonna sit here and have people talk about foreign bigotry with a guy named
like has taken marching orders.
I'm humble.
I'm humble.
I'm making this my home.
I'm trying to contribute and give back.
I'm humble.
I'm not trying to tell Americans to go die for where my ancestors came from.
You know, let's focus on building this country.
You know, I'm humble. I'm humble. I'm learning from the people who have been here for generations,
you know. I'm not out here being like you trying to make my ethnic ancestral business the number one priority of Americans
So honestly, I think you I am bigoted toward people like you. I'm not gonna lie like you
You really are just a leech
As I know you're bigoted against people like me. It's not for any of the reasons you're listed though
Wait what okay. What is the reasons you're listed though.
Wait, what, okay, what is the reason you imagine then?
I think, oh, I think we can say that for a conversation for later.
Anyway, I think this host, regardless if we may disagree, they let me speak here. That shows at least some American values and I can express thanks and well wishes to them
for that.
Okay, well, I mean, good luck.
Good luck with whatever you're trying to do because it probably is not going to work. Okay, well, I mean, good luck.
Good luck with whatever you're trying to do, because it probably is not going to work.
So this is actually an issue that we're facing here in the United States now.
With all of this talk about Iran supporting Hamas and Hezbollah in
the Middle East, it's building up more anti-Iranian sentiment among the
American people, unfortunately. And I think that we should probably have a
conversation on how to combat that.
I feel like it's hitting a, it's hitting kind of Islamophobia and even, you know, Arab, anti-Arab sentiment as well, at large, right?
So I think it's like, I think it's like broader than that, even.
Would you say, or is it specifically Iranian more than more than modern others?
I'm not in the state, so I don't know.
I think they're fed.
I think it's about, it's not necessarily about anti-Islamophobia.
I think people are just fed a bunch of bogus and BS surrounding these countries.
Like, for example, when there was a young Iranian woman who she had a heart
attack, something to that effect. Masa Amini, yeah. Masa Amini, and they soiled her name and
they said, oh, you know, she was killed by the IRGC, she was killed
by these Iranian military agents or police or something like that, and they had these
big protests out on the streets.
You saw average Americans.
I mean, it was mostly like foreign diaspora or whatever it's called, these idiots.
But you also saw some Americans who were just minding their own business that were upset
about this because they were fed bogus and BS by the US State Department.
That's where these lies came from about this young woman who
was, they claimed was killed by the police, but she actually had a heart attack
and that, of course the media didn't touch the truth on that subject. So I think if
the media were to tell the truth about what's going on in all these
countries, you'd
have a much different perception amongst the broader American public, even older Americans
about these.
And I've seen the truth, that's why I'd say it.
And Haas has to go, thanks Haas for joining the space.
Yeah, I appreciate being here.
Sorry the debate took so long, but we'll do these spaces regularly and I think I see it
coming, we're gonna overtake Mario in no time, you know?
Yeah, definitely.
And then next time we want to have a better, bigger panel of people probably and we won't get
side-detracted from these debates.
But you know...
Yeah, I appreciate you coming on.
Everyone follow Hawes and I think this is a good point to wrap up a little bit of a shorter
space today, but we'll do more of these.
Yeah, of course.
For pleasure.
The last thing, I'll say and we'll have our other, you know.
Was I going too far, guys?
What do you think?
I was going ham.
I was going ham.
I was going ham.
I was going to ham.
I was like, I am bigoted. Ha ha ha ha.
Well, it looks like I gotta keep streaming.
I do, I want to see my family tonight, but,
you know,
gotta, gonna probably keep streaming a little bit.
Um, we'll watch some stuff.
So this was the update from the Gaza border,
that I was talking about.
I'll show it to give you an update here near to the Israel Gaza border.
We've been live on TV the past few hours, so that's why I haven't been updating here as
much. There have been just numerous explosions and airstrikes in the
distance the Israelis are hammering the northern part of Gaza with air strikes
and their artillery units along the border.
Tons of news and show requests. All right, cool, cool.
Um, cool.
Cool.
Yeah, we'll get to some of it.
I was actually just planning on wrapping it up when we're done with the space,
but it looks like, yeah, I'm going to be streaming a little longer.
All right. We can hear the movement of APs on the roads in the distance. Now the
Israelis have explained what they say is happening tonight. They say they are expanding the
raids into Gaza, meaning there will be Israeli troops inside the Gaza Strip
conducting operations. This is not, according to the Israeli military, the
larger anticipated ground operation.
Again, we have to just report what we know here, and this is a very fluid situation. So that's the information that we have.
We've seen more rockets come off the northern part of the Gaza Strip tonight, headed
toward the city of Ashkalan.
Just here, along the border we took some
incoming fire a few minutes ago. You have just about 10 seconds to respond in
this location so we had to get to a shelter as quickly.
Yo, Summit, appreciate you man. Not a lot of subs today.
I, that means a lot.
I really appreciate that.
Appreciate that, man.
Appreciate that, man.
It's possible, but it's a very, very active front line.
The most active it has been in the South
since the war began 21 days ago.
I'll have more developments throughout the night
on exactly what's taking place here on the ground,
so be sure to follow me.
What you just heard there, some more outgoing fire
from the Israelis into the Gulf.
Yo, motorcycle, Let's go! Let's go! Let's go! By the way guys, sub if you want to see more
of these early stream Twitter spaces because otherwise I got to just do them at night
because I, you know,
I gotta like completely rearrange everything.
So if you guys wanna see more of these early streams
and more of these Twitter spaces, you know, let me know.
Let me know I'm doing the right thing, you know.
Appreciate you, motorcycle, appreciate you,. Appreciate you motorcycle. Appreciate you man.
Alright, let's continue. Numinus, let's go.
Let's go. Let's go. Let me show you guys. So apparently this is
Yannaton. He said tonight's IDF ground operation raises the possibility that the anticipated ground
invasion is a misconception.
IDF Spocks have constantly talked about off-ground maneuvers quote-unquote.
Hence we might see gradual and widening maneuvers not clear-cut invasion.
I'm not sure exactly what this is supposed to mean, but I think they're just kind of changing the name of it, and I think we're going to be looking
at a real ground invasion, actually.
But we can actually check this out.
So this is the guy we already saw.
Let's check the show requests right here. To have seen some saw this.
This is interesting news.
So a Qatari court has ordered the death penalty for eight Indians, according to the Indian Foreign Ministry.
These are employees of Al-Dahra Company.
Qatar arrested them on suspicion of spying for Israel.
We are deeply shocked by the death penalty verdict in a
way to detail decision. We will discuss this verdict with the Qatari
authorities. Do the confidential nature of the proceedings it would be
inappropriate to make any further comments at this stage.
Um, okay. Okay, there's not really a lot of breaking news.
I can continue to stream, but... But, um, I'm just, we were planning on going to see the family tonight, but, uh, yeah.
Okay. You know what, I might just have to take the L today.
Um, guys, I don't know about these early streams, let me be honest.
Um, yeah.
Uh, streams are way better. I don't know. Yeah, I think later streams are just more popular, to be honest. Um, kick subs not working? What do you mean?
Yeah, that was a crazy good space.
I want to do more of them, but honestly, the problem of these spaces you can't monetize
them, you know, that's the issue.
You know, I got the book to work on, I got the org to kind of launch.
I might have to take some risks, sacrificing some stream time at this point.
I don't know, you know. I may take some breaks from streaming again because it's a lot of
time, you know, it's a lot of time from the book stuff and it's like I can't really work
on the books that much anymore.
Because I've been streaming like every day, but... I can't really work on the books that much anymore.
Because I've been streaming like every day, but we'll see, we'll see, you know, we'll see.
But, um, we'll see, we'll see. The space was really good, but, yeah, spherical, I really appreciate you, man. I appreciate that.
Yeah, you're right. Yeah. Spherical, thank you so much, man. I appreciate it.
Anyway, guys, I'll, uh, see them all. See them all. Bye-bye.
No one to raid. All right.
I don't know, actually I don't know about tomorrow.
I'll see you guys.
Whatever.
See you guys.
Bye-bye.
See you later.