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I'm The You know, Welcome. Welcome, welcome, everybody. We have some things to talk about today. But to begin, I want to clarify something in case, you know, in case there's confusion about

it, in case there's a misunderstanding about how power works and how truth works and how authority works even, right? Because I think it's a big misconception by the Groyper retards that we're seeing in large numbers.

Not the brightest bunch, not very smart, but that's okay.

But you could see it even in the stream.

You could see it on Twitter.

The fact of the matter is they do outnumber us.

They do outnumber us.

You know, there is no getting around the fact that the ratios happen.

We get ratioed, guys.

Oh, no.

But then you think, you think about how Genghis Khan's army was outnumbered, not tenfold, even sometimes 20-fold. You think about the fact that the Bolsheviks were outnumbered by everyone and it didn't change the outcome you think about the fact that for someone is irrelevant as haz and i suppose this is the grounds by which

nick fentes justifies not debating me because where's the answer?

I challenged him to a debate. He hasn't responded. I wonder, I'll let you guess why that is, by the way.

But you have to really guess. You have to really guess.

Why do they pay so much attention to this space?

Keith Woods and Nick Fuentes.

Now, if you're an average Groyper dipshit fucking retard

and you see our numbers, you're not impressed.

Oh, did you get raci-aced? Yeah, we get it. You are a

peasant, low status. You're not a man.

You just go with the crowd. That's what you are. That's fine. But your

leaders, your leaders, don't dismiss us like you do. Your leaders pay very close attention to what we do over here. This is why Keith Woods himself posted that clip. This is why they talk about us all the time. This is why Keith Woods is constantly stealing our ideas, just like how he

stole my thread on Carl Popper. Completely stole it, by the way, and just added his own little

twist about Jews, the leprechauns, right? But before we get on to the Irish tether and the patio Mick Irish tether, Keith Woods,

Sammy Baciz, what's going on?

Before we get into that, I just wanted to be clear to this community that don't be impressed by the numbers. I don't pay attention to them. I pay intention to the fact that as low as our numbers are, Keith Woods is scared shitless of us, and so is Nick Fuentes. And there's a reason why they pay

attention to this space. Because if we were given enough attention, and it's only a matter of time,

by the way, it's only a matter of time before our message proliferates and reaches more corners than

it is now. But when it does, red always, always beats brown. And that is how it has always been in history.

And that is how it is as a fact of what is communism and what is

fascism in the far right. It's a matter of the fact of what those things refer to and what they

are, that it is inevitable that red crushes brown.

And that's why they watch the space.

It means nothing.

It means nothing.

And there's many things I want to say.

There's many things I want to mention.

By the way, Nick Fuentes gets mugged numbers-wise by Jackson. So why are we even talking about viewer numbers? Why does that

matter? What kind of pussy? What kind of feminine, effeminate bitch made? Man? What? Talks about numbers. Even when I reached my peak, I was responding to people with zero followers. Why? Because it's the truth that matters. It's

the integrity of your message that matters. We don't come from the same tradition as these

flamboyant far-right fruit bowls. We just don't come from their same tradition. In our tradition, when Stalin was responding to the anarchists, what did he say? He said it's not the popularity of their outlook that matters. It's the integrity of defending the Marxist outlook. That's why we must respond to the anarchists.

We stand on business and they don't. They scatter to the wind. One of us is worth a thousand of them.

Their numbers aren't impressive.

Why? Because their numbers. As soon as their little bubble pops, they're going to scatter to the fucking wind.

What we have is something solid.

What we have is something that's going to last, going to endure.

And it doesn't take a great deal of thought to understand why that is.

Think through to the conclusion of the Nick Fuentes, Keith Woods ideology.

What is the content?

What is the conclusion of their message?

If not, bitching and crying and moaning and whining about why they're

not allowed to say certain things while having no comprehension whatsoever of the actual cause and

reason for the things that they complain about is. They have no relationship to the cause.

They just complain about the symptoms. They complain about symptoms, and they have no regard for the

disease. That's why they will be obsolete. That's why despite their superficial and transient nebulous popularity, it's ultimately not going to last into anything substantive.

And mark my fucking words, because I will take a bullet for what I stand on, and I will be here if so long as my heart is breathing, so long as my heart is beating,

and so long as I am breathing, I will be here for a very long time and I'm not going anywhere.

All of these followers, all of these sycophants don't even know what they're talking about, they'll scatter like mice.

They scatter like mice when one gorilla deals with them.

I'd see one of our guys.

One gorilla, fuck up 30 of them.

They scatter like roaches.

They scatter like mice.

They're insects.

They're nothing.

You think we're intimidated by numbers?

All of history. All of history all of history shows conquerors never begin with the numbers what nomadic step warrior had numbers behind them none of them all they All they had was cohesion. All they had was honor. All they had was integrity. And on that count, we surpassed them a millionfold. It's not even a competition. They have no honor. They have no integrity.

They have nothing.

Nothing but hype and lies and speculation.

And it will collapse for the fucking bubble that it is.

It's just another goddamn crypto scam. And that's all it fucking is. It's just another goddamn crypto scam, and

that's all it fucking is.

So let's

be clear about that first and foremost.

Mao won all of

China with a few thousand men.

You think we give a fuck about numbers? Who remembers the glory days?

When I had but under a hundred followers, under a hundred solid followers following me into battle.

And in one fucking weekend, I destroyed Xanderhal, Vash, Destiny, all of them in one fucking night.

You think numbers matters?

No.

It's always been about the integrity of the message. It's always been about the honor. It's always been about the solidity, about the coherence, about the truth of what we're fighting for.

Give me three, three decent, honest, honorable communists.

And I'll fucking take on dozens of them! Not dozens, hundreds!

Fintas is the guy in the corner of a party meme thinking about how no one else notices, purely autistic abstraction and zero human spirit.

And remember to drive home their weakness in comparison to our strength, our indomitable strength, They are the ones who came to us.

Keith Woods, the Irish Tether, posted a fuck.

He went out of his way not only to check on my YouTube, but to clip it, to post a clip from my YouTube, this pussy won't fucking debate me, he won't engage

with anything I say, but he's posting clips of me. I didn't even think of that guy. I don't

even think about these people, and they come to me, the guy who's irrelevant. I want every

fucking Groyper to pay attention to that fact. I'm the irrelevant guy and your leaders

come to me and there's a fucking reason for that. And the reason is they know I'm coming for them

and I'm going to fucking eat them for breakfast,

lunch, and dinner in the same fucking day. They know my message. They know the power of this

movement. They know the potential. You've had 10 years on us.

And it's only a matter of time.

We're coming for you.

Remember, they came to me.

I didn't go to them.

You think I give a fuck about Nick Flentes? You think I give a fucking

shit about Nick Flentas? I could go sleep in a fucking cave right now and in two fucking years,

he'll be gone. I don't have to lift a fucking finger.

I'm confident.

I know for a fact,

his bullshit isn't going anywhere.

The most,

the most Nick Flentas and his followers

will ever amount to

is that when America descends into chaos, they'll

just be one of the crazy killer

clown gangs running around

committing a bunch of fucking atrocities

and nonsense, and then what?

And then when a leader comes and unifies

this broken nation, they

will be scattered to the wind like every other one of

these factions of nihilists and anti-human scum. Don't you dare try to fucking go to war with me.

You don't know who the fuck I am And what community I built

He's in what community I built He's in for a big surprise he thinks like we're one of these

republicans or one of these t p u s a guy's and conservatives

the guerrillas know the gorillas know what this is.

They came to me. They came before me.

Think about that. They came to me. I'm irrelevant. They came to me.

They fear me.

Paper win.

Outside.

What's going on, man? I'm going to Miami in a matter of weeks.

I am going to Miami in a matter of weeks.

Isn't that where he lives?

So we will have the debate then.

And trust me, he's not going to be able to worm out of it.

I'm going to make sure it happens. I will be in Miami within two weeks. so let's see what does nick fenta say let's go through and run it through

and i want to just demonstrate to everyone very calmly the bankruptcy, the idiocy of this ideology.

First of all, let's get to the problem. Amilo with the five. Because I want to

Amila, what's going on?

I want to really

hammer home

what all this controversy

is about. Controversy, yes,

if you could believe it.

These porn-addled retards Controversy, yes, if you could believe it.

These porn-addled retard mentally fucking stumped.

They're literally the retards in high school, by the way.

When you're in lunch in high school and you got those retards sitting around that's who these fucking people are by the way this is what they grew up to be the actual retards

anyway this is how they're like, you know what they are?

They're like LGBT zoomers.

Because you know what they do?

They say,

You're transphobic.

You're transphobic.

You're homophobic.

Instead, they say,

Haas!

You support reparations and deny Jewish barbersers. Of course I support reparations and deny Jewish purposes of course I support

reparations bitch fucking sue me you pussy why don't you engage with the argument you

fucking bitch this gay fucking right-wing cancel culture? What the fuck is that?

Right-wing cancel culture. Nick Fuentes, that's what he's brought to the table. Right-wing

cancel culture. Like, instead of engaging with the actual fucking substance,

enough said,

enough said, enough said,

you're transphobic, enough said,

enough said, you support reparations,

enough said, enough said, you support reparations. Do you support reparations. Nuff said.

Nuff said.

You support reparations.

The fuck?

Where's the substance?

Where's the actual addressing the content of my position?

You're slapping a fucking label on my position.

And then what?

Enough said.

That exactly speaks to the bankruptcy.

The bankruptcy in total lack and absence of honor that defines your bankrupt ideology and worldview.

Nick Fuentes, the bell tolls for the son.

The real holy men are coming.

He goes, he goes, enough sad.

He's like, he's trying to list all of these sins that I've committed.

All of these sins that I've committed pertaining to my position.

So I should be canceled.

The fuck is this bitch shit.

I support reparations.

Yes, I fucking support reparations. So what? So what? So what? And what? It's like I'm talking to a leftist. So what I support reparations? What's what is fundamentally what is wrong with that, by the way? Tell me what the problem is with

taking the natural wealth that is monopolized and owned by a tiny minority of

fucking capitalist bloodsuckers

and ensuring that

black Americans

have some land to stand on

so they can actually be

Americans.

What is so fucking wrong with that? What is so wrong with seizing the means of

production from the capitalist class? What is wrong with that? Tell me what sin I have committed

by adopting that position. Tell me what sin I have committed by adopting that position. Tell me the sin

I've committed because I believe that I value, I value, I value the perspective of foundational

black Americans, more than I value the perspective of a fucking Irish

tether named Keith Woods and a guy named Soleiman in fucking UK. Yes, Tarik Nasheed's voice,

in terms of authority, in terms of how much it matters, in terms of who he represents, is much more important than some fucking guy sitting in Ireland.

And all these random people scattered across the globe.

Think about this.

Americans who have been here for hundreds of years,

a great bulk of that,

they were literally slaves

who have never, unlike any other group

in this country,

been given a slice of the pie,

a bare minimum to stand on, so they don't

have to be a permanent underclass.

That's a sin that I think

they deserve a piece of the American

pie, that I'm a fucking committing

some kind of sin. Fuck you!

You bitch!

You fucking pander to Keith Woods, some fucking foreigner, and I believe foundational Americans should have a piece of this country.

Fuck you!

And I'm committing a sin.

But that sounds like things that mainstream liberal...

Yeah, I get it sounds like this.

I get it looks like this.

I get it appears like this.

But all you fucking have is aesthetics.

Your whole worldview, it's not based in content.

It's not based in substance.

It's based in superficial, flamboyant aesthetics and nothing else.

It's this type of fashion.

I don't give a fuck if some liberals talk about reparations.

When I talk about reparations, I'm talking about it, not them.

So you either fucking engage with what I say in my position,

or you shut your fucking bitch ass up before I come and slap you across the fucking face and shut you up myself. do work so what's up geopolitics this irish keith woods they're reparations so what so what so I'm, you're going to cancel me now? These people critique

Whokeness and liberalism and all this shit, but they have reproduced sociologically the same patterns of thoughtless mental retardation that you find in any group

of Lib-Tard, Zumer LGBT-Woktards. It's the same fucking thing, but it's right-wing coded.

It's the same fucking thing, but it's right-wing-coded. It's the same shit.

It's literally the same thing.

Can anyone make an argument about what's wrong with reparations?

Anyone want to make an argument about what's wrong with reparations?

Make the fucking argument, you little bitch.

Don't just sit here.

Where's all these groipers?

Where are they?

Come in my VC and explain what's wrong with

reparations.

Actually produce an argument.

You think I'm scared to be against reparations?

I believe it's the correct thing.

But you're fucking scared.

See, by canceling me over something, you're admitting in your little fucking gay,

retarded little groups, you're admitting something. You're admitting that you believe that you are

scared to have this opinion because you're going to be socially ostracized.

Tail and diet. What's up? See, when you cancel me over some shit, you're admitting that this is an opinion you would be scared to have publicly because you would get socially ostracized, meaning you're a fucking pussy who's too scared to stand on what they actually fucking believe and are just what? Have a fucking sheep mentality. That's what separates this community from you. You think my gorillas follow my

words with luxury? You think my guerrillas can somehow luxuriously float by in this community?

They have to believe it. They have to watch me, eat every single one of

you scum, whether you're the far right or you're these lip tards for breakfast. They have to see it.

They have to witness my correctness. They have to see me articulate my position and come to a conclusion

themselves about whether they agree with it. It's not like you, where you just follow whatever

this fucking guy says because he's promising to be the next Messiah and the second coming of Jesus Christ.

An Irish tether should have no say about the business of Americans.

Stay in fucking Ireland and deal with your own problems in Ireland.

First of all. it's so funny these people say oh

black people you know

there's so much crime and all this problems they have

well have you ever investigated why that might be

john jackman what's up see they say they say investigated why that might be?

John Jackman, what's up? See, they say,

they say, no, no, no, the reason is racial realism. It's biological. It's their IQ. It said, okay, that's

one of the conclusions you've entertained. But why haven't you entertained

the other conclusions you could draw? Why are you so eager to jump to

the conclusion that black people are racially inferior to you? You're not even open-minded to hear

the contrary view. You cancel people and try to silence people who expouse the alternate view.

You literally try to fucking cancel them and make it seem like they're sinning.

You're making it seem like I'm sinning.

Like it's your religious fucking duty to enforce this worldview you have. Why? If it was true, if race realism was true,

why do you need these gay fucking cancel culture, echo chamber fucking circle jerk tactics to enforce

your worldview.

Why can't you just fucking defend it on the merits in a fucking debate?

Where are you guys?

Why aren't you in my VC right now defending your worldview?

Why do you have to do this pile on cancel culture fucking bullshit?

Think about it.

No honor.

And then they go so far.

If you don't accept the retarded, stupid fucking JQ ideology, they cancel you.

Like you're committing a sin for not agreeing with them.

Why can't you make a fucking argument, though?

You know, they call me stupid as if I'm supposed to believe that it's self-evident

that Jews control everything. You know what that proves? It proves you have a mental illness.

You have a pathological disposition which makes you believe Jews control everything in a way that has nothing to do with an inquiry into the actual facts of the matter or any kind of reasoned, independent way of arriving at that conclusion yourself. Pathologically, psychologically, there's something in you that is compelling you to believe that, that is literally beyond the use of the intellect. And you fucking retards have the audacity to say that I'm fucking stupid when you can't even justify your fucking worldview, you stupid bitch.

They literally believe Jews control everything, not because they have facts which show this,

not because they have evidence, not because there's anything substantive that backs this up, but because it's literally

how they feel pathologically. Well, there's a lot of pathologies. Furries want to fuck animals.

Pedophiles want to fuck kids. That is literally a pathological disposition they have. When you come at me

and call me stupid for not taking it as self-evident that Jews control everything, you are no

different than a fucking pedophile coming to me and telling me

hey Haas isn't it self-evident

that you should be attracted to children

no that's a you thing

and has nothing to do with intelligence

and has everything to do with a

psychological disposition

you fucking have not. I'm not tempted by your JQ. I don't find it

convincing. I don't find it persuasive. You haven't convinced me. So you think you're going to

fucking cancel me over it, you bitch?

Think about it.

It's a pathological mental illness these people have.

They're trying to make it seem like it's about it.

You're just not smart enough.

No, no, no.

I understand your pathology.

Like, I get it.

I understand that it's something that exists.

And I understand it.

You see, I understand.

I understand how you could be so fucking retarded to think that way.

But you don't realize that it's wrong.

You don't understand that it's just fucking wrong.

You don't understand that you're just a fucking idiot.

That it has nothing to do with an actual understanding of how the world works.

It has nothing to do with an actual conclusion arrived at by the device of reason.

Forget about empirical evidence.

Just the device of reason, like thinking it through a little bit,

about why the world is the way it is.

It's a fucking retarded perspective that doesn't take into account, just let's

concede to them there. Because you see in psychoanalysis, ask any psychologist too, forget

psychoanalysis. When you're dealing with a delusional retard, you have to concede their fantasy to them

because they're not going to let it go. It's like a pit bull, but that would be really flattering to call them pit bulls.

It's like a fucking chihuahua that's bit on something. They just can't fucking let go of it, right? So they bit on this Jew shit,

they just fucking can't let go of it, right?

There's just something so fucking persuasive

about it to them, right? So let's

concede these fucking rabid rabies

foaming out of their mouth

fucking retards their little JQ

for the purposes of argumentation.

Even if that was true, even if that was true, how is it? How has it gotten to the point

systemically about the nature of how society is run and the relations of the ownership of wealth,

the nature of society and humanity, that that has become the outcome.

Like, what about your fucking Western civilization made that possible?

Even if we concede them, their mental illness. The only logical conclusion is self-criticism.

What went wrong with my fucking society that this happened? You see, they're attacking, they're literally blaming Jews. You know what that's like? Even if they're right about the Jews and they're not.

It's like blaming a fucking retard

who's a gullible idiot

for falling for a Nigerian scammer prince

in their emails, saying they're a Nigerian prince.

Of course, if you have an opening in your system that allows for the private interest to be

asserted over the common interest, a whole host of fucking people are going to game that and take advantage of it.

You know, why not? Why fucking not? Where is it in the Constitution of our societies or of western societies has there definitively been an establishment and an enshrinement concretely of the principle of the common good over the private interest.

It was nowhere to be found.

As a matter of fact, the whole of the European feudal system was based on the assertion

of the private interests of nobles and aristocrats and all these kinds of fucking people

over the common interest. It was based on the interest of usurers. Yes, usurers. And don't give me this

bullshit that Catholicism outlawed usury.

No, they didn't.

They just changed the name.

They changed it from usury to interest.

But it was the same thing.

It was just a different fucking name.

And you know what? I'm not knocking on Catholicism,

you know, but you want to do this cancel culture? Fucking fine, bitch. But address the substance of what I'm saying. The Vatican Bank acted in a usurious way throughout

history. That's a matter of fact. These are simple facts. All of these different religious orders

constituted throughout the Middle Ages, the Templar order being

one of them, by the way, one of the reasons the Templars were exterminated was why? Because they were a

usurious bank. All of these were not Jews. This was all happening by quote unquote white Catholics.

This is basic history. This guy, by the way, he's constantly, blamboyantly talking all this bullshit saying,

you're not smart, Haas, you're not smart.

I don't even want to entertain it because I care about the substance.

Show me the receipts that you have intelligence.

Show me the receipts that you not only have intelligence, but knowledge of history. I've never seen it, Nick Fuentes. I've never seen it. How do you, you have to be smart to just scream and squeal about Jews? Does that take intelligence to just say Jews control everything? I don't think it does.

I think that's something that I would have found very persuasive when I was 13 years old.

And by the way, they try to attach their retarded cope with anti-Zionism.

But Nick Fuentes himself is a Zionist.

He condemned Hamas.

And the October 7th attacks.

And he continues to condemn Hamas and call them terrorists.

So this has nothing to do with Zionism.

This is racialism.

It's not even religious.

It's racial.

It's racialism.

These people have a racialist ideology.

And why am I going to fight that ideology?

Because as an American, what they're going to fucking do is they're going to say, first it's just the Jews, it's just the Jews.

But then they're going to start talking about black people.

They already are.

Then they're going to start talking about the Mexicans.

Then the Asians.

And then God knows fucking what.

And guess what?

They're going to bring nihilism and racial violence and bullshit to this fucking country.

And we are going to have to undo all that bullshit as communist.

I prefer not to. I'd prefer to not have to undo all that bullshit as communist. I prefer not to.

I'd prefer to not have to fucking clean up the mess that they're preparing for us.

I'd rather just go for the fucking jugular of their retarded, divisive worldview

that's going to thwart the possibility of any popular front in this country

to take down the system right in its fucking cradle.

By the way, they came at me first.

They came at me first yeah that will get a response yeah that will get a response yeah yeah that's what

you call overreach coming for me is overreach that's what you call overreach that's what you call overreach. Coming for me is overreach.

That's what you call overreach.

That's what you call a little too much fucking confidence.

It really reminds me of Hitler himself, you know?

Hitler got a little too confident, and he fucked with the wrong person.

He really fucked with the wrong person he really fucked with the wrong person

where are they where are these people where are these people where are these people where are these people

the leader won't debate me where's the followers followers.

You guys witness with your own eyes how they fucking flee from us like mice, how fucking scared they

are of us, because red

destroys brown.

As a matter of fact, the only

fucking reason communists have been so

weak in the face of these people

communists is because

those communists weren't even communists. They were just liberals.

Here are the real communists who are back, and look at the fucking outcome. They don't even stand a chance.

Absolutely terrified. absolutely terrified you do support reparations

yes

yes i do

yes i fucking do

and i'm tired of pretending that i don't, even though I never pretended I didn't.

But it's like, yes, I do.

As a matter of fact, I do fucking support that.

I do support reparations for foundational black Americans.

Why the fuck wouldn't I? Because I'm going to explain something to you.

You know, there's two types of people, right, that I'm going to name. Now, one type of person, one type of person is an edgy little child. It's an edgy little child. And their whole worldview is formed around what's permissible to say according to the standards of the liberal open society and what's prohibited.

And the logical conclusion

of it is, you know, you guys ever see those

groipers that are named like child

rapist 1488?

That's the logical

conclusion of that childish

worldview according to which being based just means contradicting everything the establishment says for its own sake.

Well, you know what? If I turn on cable TV, they're going to condemn

pedophilia. Does that mean you should support

pedophilia? You know what I mean?

It's like,

if the mainstream

is saying we want what's best for Americans,

should you say you want what's

worst for Americans?

You're a child.

You're a fucking child.

All of this is just

discourse to you.

It's not discourse

to me.

You want to know

who reminded you

it wasn't just

discourse?

That bouncer at

that club,

that fucking Superman decked one of you guys punched you in the fucking face that's who remind you it's not just discourse this isn't just an aesthetics

discourse kind of thing it's about fucking respect they're not politically correct in russia they're not politically correct in Russia.

They're not politically correct in China.

They're not politically fucking correct in Iran.

But they still make sure that all of the racial groups in those countries have respect.

They don't believe in racism because it fractures the integrity and unity

of the nation. Because it leads to people fucking killing each other and beating each other

and rioting because the honor and dignity of their ancestry and their forefathers is being

insulted there has never been a leader or conqueror in history who did not make sure that every single tribe that he was uniting together under one nation and one umbrella was not respected.

You don't make a unified nation by stepping on the toes of all these different racial groups and insulting them and

disrespecting them and attacking their dignity. That is not how you unify a nation. Genghis Khan gave

recognition and respect to different fucking religions and races.

Genghis Khan, the guy who would level entire fucking cities to the ground, Nick Fuentes wants to call him a fucking liberal.

No, racism comes from liberalism.

Before liberalism, there was no racism.

Every major fucking empire in history

was a coalition of tribes and a coalition of races.

Every great fucking empire, that's all that made it an empire.

Otherwise, it would have just been a fucking primitive tribe somewhere.

What are you fucking think an empire is?

You think that's liberal? No, racism comes after liberalism.

Even the Romans, who came the closest, the closest to an empire, a pre-modern empire, that had no respect for the

traditions and histories of other people, even that empire, as much as they were based on an outlook

of domination and annihilation of others.

Even they, to the conquered peoples, what did they do?

They assimilated their idols into their pantheon.

They opened the door for anyone,

regardless of their lineage,

to become a Roman citizen.

Even Rome, the closest thing.

As a matter of fact,

this is the best fucking part.

Liberal Enlightenment historians,

I believe Edward Gibbon made this argument, that they thought the reason the Roman

Empire collapsed was because it was too racial. They said it was racially diluted, and that is why it

collapsed. And that came from liberalism. You are the fucking liberal.

You're the liberal.

Not me.

You think Tamerlane was a fucking liberal, you bitch?

You think Tamerlane was sitting here and gibbering about race?

You're the fucking liberal.

You want to cancel me over this shit?

Fuck you!

This guy calls himself a fucking Catholic.

What the hell?

The Spanish Empire was a multiracial, multi- himself a fucking Catholic. What the hell?

The Spanish Empire was a multiracial,

multi-ethnic empire.

You think they fucking believed in white ethno-nationalism?

Go look at the fucking white ethno-nationalism in South America, you fucking moron?

And Mexico.

He calls me the liberal

his whole fucking world view is based on liberalism

yes

those in power

preach anti-racism they preach anti-racism.

They preach anti-racism while stoking the flame of racial tension and racial division at the same time, while giving so much attention and emphasis on the white nationalists like Nick Fuentes at Unite the

right in Charlottesville and Richard Spencer putting their fucking cameras on them. Why do they

do that? Why do they put their fucking cameras on these white nationalists? Because they're

trying to stoke the flame of racial division and that's

always been what they've tried to fucking do and all of their superficial claims of believing in

anti-racism and rejecting racism are hollow and insincere and lack genuineness and sincerity.

Now you're talking about racism? Enough said.

How the fuck are you going to unite America into one great nation as a white nationalist?

You are a fucking European nationalist.

Get the fuck out of this continent, if that's what you believe. This will never be South

Africa. This will never even be Australia. You are never going to turn America into a European

country. The Europeans who fled Europe to come to this country wanted to get away from Europe. They left Europe. They were here for a new continent, a new civilization, and a new nation. If you don't want to fucking be a part of that, Go to fucking Europe where you belong.

With Keith fucking Woods. Go

sit with Keith fucking Woods in Europe

then.

Go to fucking Ireland.

This is not a white nation state. This is not a white nation state.

This is not a Europe.

Put it this way.

Even on the census they used to take,

wasps didn't even want to identify as English descent.

They said, no, no, no, I'm American.

My ethnicity is American.

Even on the racial census that they used to take,

you know how many fucking Americans said, no, no, no, I'm American.

I'm not English.

I'm American.

Because the people who founded this country didn't want to be Europe.

They wanted to build something new.

That wasn't Europe.

You want to fucking be Europe.

Go back to Europe.

That's not what this is.

He goes, I'mica first no you're europe first you're not even europe first you're not even

europe first you're a nebulous european white identity first that's what you fucking are you're nothing

more than that you have nothing to do with America. I don't fucking care that you brought Soleiman and all these other people to your stupid fucking America first event. Nobody gives a shit. Doesn't change the fact that you're a European nationalist, not an American patriot.

Come for me and bring their whole fucking bring their whole shit on me.

They came for me, by the way, the guy who's irrelevant, right?

Well, I could tell why they're thinking about me.

I could tell why they think about me. It's clear. It's clear. Thank you. Look at this fucking shit.

Look at this flamboyant ideology that lacks substance.

Is this based on what?

Being a fucking gossip girl?

What the fuck is this?

Some, what is those God?

I even know what they're called.

Those gossip fashion websites that just talk about,

oh, she wore that dress.

She wore that dress. Look at dress look at this you support reparations

you're not religious you think what where's where's the arguments he's just throwing labels on me

like he's calling me transphobic what's the difference between this and a leftist just calling me

transphobic and this phobic and that phobic like what's the difference between this and a leftist? Just calling me transphobic and this phobic and that phobic.

Like, what's the difference?

Where is your actual fucking argument, you pussy?

You're trying to cancel me over some shit?

How fucking gay is that?

You're just canceling me over it.

You think the West is controlled

by capitalist crypto-nazies

no I think the West is

controlled by actual fucking

capitalist Nazis not crypto-Nazis

actual fucking Nazis

rather than Jewish

people you're right I think the Jewish ruling class is a tiny

minority. Even if it's not a tiny minority, it's a minority of the ruling class. That's what I

think. I think there are a minority faction of the ruling class. That is a genuine and sincere belief I hold.

Care to challenge it.

Care to argue about it.

Care to debate about it.

Care to bring receipts and statistics and naming names.

Because I'll fucking take you to town any fucking day on the matter.

But no, instead he just states this.

It gets 2.3,000 likes by these coping goypers in their telegram.

Why?

Why does he get all these likes?

Because he is signaling that Haas is canceled.

Haas is canceled.

He's signaling.

He's, uh, it's virtue signaling and then it's vice is signaling.

He's vice signaling. that's all based means to these people by the way

vice signaling you know oh it's bet ted bundy was based yeah ted bundy was based because everyone thinks he's a bad guy. So the bad guy's good because that's what's based because everyone's, oh, what are you a fucking liberal? You don't like that guy who like kills and eats people and eats them alive? You're such a fucking liberal.

Fucking retard.

What more do I need to fucking do to prove?

I don't have the views that I do because I give a shit about what's conventional and accepted within establishments.

I think I've proven myself enough by fucking denying every atrocity they accused communists of in history, fully exonerating Stalin. He really did nothing wrong, fully exonerating Mao,

supporting every fucking so-called dictator in the world. You think I give a fucking shit

what mainstream conventional views are? Clearly, clearly, my thoughts are formed independent of that. I don't have to virtue signal to

anyone. So that's the difference between me and Vosch, Nick Fuentes, you fucking idiot. I'm not Vosch

because I don't support the Democrats. I'm not Vosch because I believe in the independence and integrity of a worldview. I'm not Vosch because I believe in the independence

and integrity of a worldview.

I'm not Vosch

because I don't fucking support NATO,

you fucking idiot. You know the thing that

actually matters? You fucking retard?

You think what matters is how

much you vice signal

to a bunch of fucking basement dwelling

jacking off retards on the

fucking internet? What matters is your

stance on NATO, you fucking idiot.

They don't care about anything but that, by the way.

The only reason they were clamping down on the alt-right is because they were worried that Russia was backing them.

They said as much.

All they care about is defending the imperial hegemony.

The actual concrete fucking system, you retard.

But bububbub but who's the system?

Why can't I just fucking reduce that to some bones and flesh incarnated in a fucking visceral ethnic group.

Therefore, it's not

concrete enough.

Because for

them, the concrete

is the flesh and bone

of some fucking individual

down to their fucking

microscopic DNA strands, and it's just so

tangible and fleshy and you know

you're a fucking pervert is what you are

you're not a fucking Catholic you're an

Anglo metaphysician who conflates

your fucking twisted angloidid, racialistic, calper fucking skull measuring, salivating at the fucking tongue, at the fucking warm, fleshy meat.

That's what you consider substance, you vulgar bitch? Where's the fucking spirituality in your

worldview? Where's the soul? You know, you're the one who claims to not be a materialist.

You don't, you think the only concrete reality is biological self-interest, you fucking retard?

You know, the Catholic Church would behead you and burn you at the stake for your heretical

retarded worldview?

Yeah. retarded worldview. Who is the concrete ruling class?

It's literally superficial.

The fucking people who own your land

and own your factories

and your wealth and your oil and your energy and your fucking banks.

Most of them aren't news.

It doesn't matter what ethnicity they are.

It's like this guy walks into a fucking room and their wife is getting fucked by some man and the first thing he wants to know

is what religion and what ethnicity that man is he's fucking your wife is that not bad enough

is debt slavery not bad enough is capitalist exploitation not bad enough? Is capitalist exploitation not bad enough? Why does it fucking matter what their religion and ethnicity is? Is it not bad enough that they brought the people of this country and the world to their knees to the almighty

fucking dollar? Is that

not bad enough?

Is it? is it not bad enough that they stripped the people of their dignity stripped them of their homes their livelihood

put them in fucking debt

giving them nothing

no hope

crush their spirit

crush their morale

is that not bad enough

telling them they need to reduce

their populations and they're breeding too much

and they're killing the planet because there's too many of them is it not bad enough

is the inhumanity is the inhumanity and satanism of capitalism itself not not bad enough.

Why does it matter if some of them are Jews?

I don't care if the devil's a Jew or a Catholic.

If he engages in devilish business, he's a fucking devil. Do we need to say that only fans is bad?

Just because a Catholic might not be running it?

You think Catholics are incapable of evil?

Is that what you think?

Then why was there a Protestant Reformation?

You dumb bitch.

You think only Jews can do evil?

You think even the majority of evil people are Jews?

What kind of fucking Christian are you?

For all the wickedness that Jesus accused his fellow Jews,

for all the wickedness he accused of them,

the whole purport, the whole message of Jesus Christ,

was that he forgives them because they know not what they do you glossed over that part though didn't you you glossed over the part where though, didn't you? You glossed over the part

where evil

doesn't come from

lineage. Jesus

canceled the fucking debts

of lineage. He cancelled

the debts of the past. He

canceled the debts of people's lineage, of the burden of the past.

That's what he freed the people from, and that is why he forgave the wickedness of the people around him.

Precisely because his message was the opposite of yours.

Retard and VC.

How can you defend the retardation of your leader?

Go.

Can you hear me yeah

yo

yo haz

what's up bro how's to go man

fuck you

what's his beef

what's his beef you got with Nick man

what's going on why are you spreading your fucking gay little telegram groups to find

out

hey but here's my question has

how many people died in the Holocaust

what's the number what do you think is it 6 million

I better not say 6 million or Or they're going to cancel me.

They're going to... I'm not vice signaling well enough.

Is that what you fucking think is going to happen here?

What is your opinion? What is your opinion? Stop dodging the question. What is your opinion?

My opinion is that you're a bitch

and your leaders are a fucking coward.

And you personally are a bitch.

You wanted to pay you. You can't even answer a single

question. You put it. Come on, bro. I think the number

was 5.99

999 million.

Wow. So sarcasm.

So you're going to dodge it? You're a counter? No, no, I'm directly, I'm directly answering 5.999.

No, no, it wasn't at it was six. It was six. It was six point R1 million.

Guys, why is it illegal to question this event in so many different countries in Europe?

Why?

I have no reason to deny six million.

I'll tell you.

Why is it illegal?

Do you agree that it should be illegal,

or should people be allowed to question it

without going to jail?

What's your opinion?

I'm an American.

I don't believe in restricting that in America.

And if I lived in Europe,

I probably wouldn't believe it.

So you think in Europe,

it should be legal to question the official narrative.

You fucking cosmopolitan, retarded bitch.

No, but based on principle, based on the principle, your principle is that it should be legal to question it, correct?

I don't fucking believe in censoring people.

Are you principled?

Do you care about free speech, open debate, open discussion?

Do you care about it or not?

How did I violate Nick Fuentes' little bitch free speech?

How did I violate his free speech?

So we agree that you're not going to answer the question.

You're going to dodge it.

You're a coward.

So that's on the record.

Listen, listen.

I believe it was 6 million.

And if you want to deny that, take it up with Mar who will fucking wipe the floor with you or any of your friends.

Okay. Here's my, any of your friends. Okay,

here's my issue,

I trust more than you.

Let's do another one.

Let's do another one.

Let's do another one out there.

Who did 9-11?

Was it Muslims?

It was the fucking CIA,

you retard.

It was the CIA.

So Larry Silverstein, did he work for the CIA?

The CIA did 9-11.

Next question.

You don't want to punch that.

You don't want to punch Larry Silverstein, do you?

Do you know who that is?

See, I got to make this guy for one second.

Shut the fuck up, you know, bitch.

To be fucking clear, because this guy keeps interrupting me at every fucking turn, every time I try to say something, you little fucking pussy.

Don't worry, I'll unmute you.

All you're doing here, you're not making arguments.

You're not articulating an argument.

You're throwing out names.

You're throwing out talking points and vice signaling talking points and trying to get me on

something so you could share with your gay little fucking group.

Why don't you articulate a fucking point?

Do I believe that Jews were exclusively responsible

for 9-11? No. Could some

Jews through the Mossad have been involved?

Absolutely. The Mossad, in collusion with the CIA and the

MI6, and the MI6 and the

Western led

intelligence networks and deep

states of the world fucking coordinated

that. I say the CIA

because that's the main fucking umbrella.

But the U.S. deep state, in collusion

with the British and the Israelis, definitely

we're responsible. That's my fucking view. Now, exactly what do you find to be a problem

with that worldview? Because you can name some guy named Larry Silverstein, and we can look up all

these different kinds of fucking names of people who are connected and they're definitely not all Jewish. So go ahead.

I think just for the audience, it's very weak that this man has to mute me and then go on a monologue. We can't have a discussion.

I mean, do I get through this?

Do I get two minutes to speak now?

Because this is a fair debate, right?

Are you going to shout out for two minutes and let me speak.

I'm going to mute you.

So you keep making commentary on mute you.

Get to a point. Make an great. So let me make my point.

Larry Silverstein, who is he

great friends with? Netanyahu,

you would think it would be a natural thing

for someone like you to come out and say,

yeah, Israel was behind 9-11,

but oh, you run from it. Oh, it was the 9-11, but oh, you run

from it, oh, it was the CIA,

oh, Israel had nothing to do with it.

Larry Silverson as a CIA agent.

Okay. Dude, you're running from the

press down logically. Hey, let's break

this down logically. Power drunk on the truth.

Hey, faggot, shut your fucking mouth.

If you were with me in person right now,

I'd slap this shit out of you for how you're fucking talking.

You can hide behind your gay little fucking voice changer all you want,

but you're in my fucking VC right now.

If you don't know how to talk and let me get my fucking word and I'm going to mute you like the rabid rabies at the mouth, fobbing little bitch animal chihuahua that you fucking are.

So shut your little bitch faggot-ass mouth up.

So first of all, what makes you think I'm scared to say if I believe that it was solely the case that only Israel did 9-11? Do I think Israel was involved? Absolutely. But at this point, when I'm already considered an anti-Semite and a neo-Nazi by all these fucking ADL, all these Zionist groups,

what do I have to lose by refusing to believe the retarded idea that Israel exclusively was

responsible for 9-11?

When I have so much other reason to believe that vested interests in the oil industry and in the military

industrial complex, who are not primarily owned by Jews, by the way, had so much to gain from 9-11 in the U.S.

involvement in the Middle East to control the monopoly on the international oil market.

Why wouldn't I fucking believe that they also had a reason to be involved? Why should I only believe that Israel was involved?

Because clearly I don't fucking care about being canceled for saying that.

So you're going to fucking come here and say,

I'm too scared to say that it was just Israel.

You sound like a fucking retard.

Because what am I fucking scared of,

you stupid bitch?

Go ahead.

What am I fucking scared of?

Bro, you're trying this tough guy act. It doesn't work.

Faggin, shut your mouth. You want to see a tough guy. If I saw you in person, I'd slap the fucking shit out of you and you'd shut your mouth.

You wouldn't talk this way in person, so don't talk this shit out of you and you'd shut your mouth. You wouldn't

talk this way in person, so don't talk this way

in my fucking VC.

Get through a fucking point and respond to me.

Why am I scared of exclusively

saying it's Israel? And what is wrong with what

I just said? That other people

were also involved?

Why is that wrong? Because you're

vice signaling and you're saying,

oh, how's it not saying the base thing that'll get you

canceled? But, so there's no room

for me to disagree with it

without you fucking retards

claiming that I lack integrity and I'm too scared

you know how fucking stupid

and porn out will you fucking sound? You know

a lack of intellect

you're betraying and evincing

right now? You can't even fucking think shit through

it's either virtue signaling or

vice signaling for you. That's it.

Your little fucking crypto bubble's going to crash. No wonder. It's not even fucking thought out.

Go ahead.

Man, I just can't believe that you keep muting me man you're talking all this shit all right all right

you're either going to respond with the point or i'm going to continue to humiliate you and

mute you i'm going to unmute you you need to immediately get to whatever point you want to get to

all this meta commentary on your bitch made status your going to unmute you. You need to immediately get to whatever point you want to get to. All this

meta-commentary on your bitch-made

status, your lack of integrity and honor

within this debate is immaterial to me.

I'm going to unmute you right now, and I'm

going to give you a fucking opportunity to get

a fucking point in. Go ahead.

Literally just said,

why should I say it's only

Israel when already people are

calling me a neo-Nazi and I have the ADL

after me? What did you just

admit? You don't want the smoke

with the Jewish lobby, bro?

You're fucking afraid of it.

You're running from the truth.

You know who runs from the truth?

A coward.

A man with no virtue.

A man with no integrity.

You're running from the truth.

You're making up all these explanations.

You'll do anything to not admit the thing that's staring you in the face. Who said I'm scared? I exposed you with two questions. Two questions.

I'm going to let you respond to this because you didn't respond to it.

Why would I be afraid?

Go ahead.

Why would I be afraid to arrive at that conclusion?

That only Israel did it.

You literally just said you already have the ADL breathing down your neck calling you...

No, I don't have them breathing down my neck, you fucking inbred retard.

They...

It doesn't make a difference to them what my position on this is.

Because they come to the same conclusion either way.

The only fucking reason I am not as canceled as your dear fucking leader, who, by the way,

went unabated for years with no cancellation, is because I'm not prominent enough yet.

You fucking moron but go ahead

explain to me

why I would be scared when it makes no

difference

okay well I'll just

tell you this.

Do you see this immigration?

Like, do you see how all these countries are being transformed through mass immigration?

Like, do you, do you witness that?

What's your opinion on it?

What do you mean?

What is my opinion on it? What's your opinion on it opinion on it what's your opinion on what is your opinion

i think it's terrible i think it's a crime against humanity what are you going to do about it

so what are you going to do about it do about it do you think it's a good thing or a negative thing

do you think it's a positive thing

for the world or a negative thing for the world?

Do you want Europe to exist? Do you want the West

to exist?

It's not my responsibility for Europe

to exist.

Disgiv they're not being probably

a person.

Disgusting? This guy's telling him when you fucking pussy me. This guy's father never beat him when he was a child.

You could tell.

You could tell by the tone of their voice.

He had one of those fucking, what do they call those parents

that just let their kids do whatever the fuck they want?

He's got that

retarded porn brain mentality where he

ask a yes or no question

and I have to respond to him on interns.

Fuck you! Who the fuck are you

to come into my shit

and demand of me, I

address your fucking question exactly

on your terms, yes or no?

Now,

you ask me what I think of immigration.

Where I think it's positive, I think

it's negative. I think

you're a fucking retarded, brainless

bitch. If that is the

extent of your thought on the matter,

positive or negative, it's a fact.

It's happening. It doesn't matter

if you think it's good. It doesn't matter

if you think it's bad. What are't matter if you think it's bad.

What are you going to fucking do about it?

How does your understanding of the world have enough integrity and enough coherence to put you into a position in which you could meaningfully challenge that phenomena and ameliorate its bad effects.

That is what you can't answer, because it would require you to be articulate.

It would have to take you out of this groiper, retard, soup-brained, vice signaling nonsense, and actually fucking think about it.

You don't challenge capitalism.

You don't actually challenge the sources of mass migration.

Your fucking leader himself admitted that he has no problem with European imperialism and NATO and all that shit.

He just has a problem with some Jews

in some high places and that's it.

You have no fucking problem

with the dynamics of capitalism

where they have to import

mass migrant slave underclass labor

to destroy the organized power of labor in the country,

you have no problem with any of those things.

So why should I give a fuck for you to come here and whine to me about mass migration

when you have done nothing, not only done nothing to address the cause of the phenomena, but even to

meaningfully articulate its sources. You haven't even meaningfully articulated the cause of mass

migration to me. Why should I give a fuck to respond to you and your vice signaling echo

chamber on this matter? Who the

fuck are you? Who the fuck

are you? That's my question.

I'm a random

Groyber and I showed up and I fucking

cooked your ass and I exposed.

Right.

One's in the chat if I stole the manhood of this little bitch and he's a eunuch for the rest of his life.

Go ahead.

Because it's a popularity contest in your brain.

Look at my fucking chat.

Look at my fucking chat.

It's a popularity

contest for you, right? For your lot?

Look at my chat. This is what the world

thinks of you. This is what history

thinks of you. This is what...

I won't go that far.

Let's not be blasphemous.

I'll leave that to him in the hereafter

for it to judge you.

But look at this chat. Everyone thinks

you got fucking wrecked.

So before you declare

victory, let's return

to the substance.

Because I'm giving you an opportunity to articulate what mass

migration is and what are the cause. What's the cause of mass migration? Can you answer that?

I think it's funny, man, because you call me in here for a debate.

What is the call?

A debate is not a Q&A where you ask me yes or no questions.

Who the fuck are you?

You fucking cockroach.

You think you're a fucking cop and you're interrogating me for your fucking Groyper friends.

Who the fuck are you, huh?

I will break.

I will fucking curb-stomp,

your little bitch-ass.

Who the fuck are you coming here to me?

Trying to fucking interview me

like you're a fucking police detective

and you have me in a fucking holding cell

who the fuck are you? You want to

fucking debate me, debate me. I'm not

going to fucking answer your little stupid questions

you little bitch.

Things a fucking Q&A, yes or no

is a debate, you stupid fucking

soup brain retard.

Honestly, has.

I don't even dislike you.

Like, I think you're funny.

Yeah, go ahead.

Suck my cock and grovel after I

dominated you. I dominated you.

I stole your manhood. And you're tempted to become my

number one cock sucker. Why? Because it's in your nature. Because the reason you follow Nick Fuentes

is because he is at the top of a hierarchy that bullies the underlings into submission and they're all just

bullying each other to keep everyone in line

and that's it. I just

completely insulted you to your

core and now you sympathize

with me because you only

respond to the language of force

and dominance. That is how bitch made you are. You came in here with

absolutely no fucking respect. Only until I fucking cooked you on a stove and turned you into burnt meat,

did you fucking sit here and start

grovelling at my feet

and talking

about how much

you like me?

You are such a

bitch.

You've disgraced

your own community.

How dishonorable.

If we're going to

have a debate,

you got to let me talk, man, because you don't know what I've given you multiple opportunities to talk on the substance. Now, once again, you asked me about mass immigration. I think the cause of mass immigration is capitalism.

And if you don't meaningfully articulate an anti-Atlanticist, anti-hegemony,

and anti-capitalistic outlook, you have no fucking right to grandstand about issues like mass immigration.

That's my view.

You're funny, but you can't debate for shit.

I'm fucking wrecking you. You're running.

I'm asking you a question.

Who are you to ask me a question?

Are you a police interrogator?

Who are you to ask me a question?

That's not a debate.

Debate something. What do you want to debate?

I mean, debate something what do you want to debate I'm literally getting your opinion for where you're coming from with your politics

and your position I'm gauging how you view the world

that's part of a debate you fucking read

so you don't know enough about me you view the world that's part of a debate you fucking reed.

So you don't know enough about me to debate me. Is that what you're

saying? You don't know enough about

me to debate me. Because that's what it sounds like.

You don't know enough about my actual

worldview to actually debate me.

Keith Woods knows where I stand on this.

So does Nick Fuentes.

That's why they respond to me and reply to me

because they're so fucking scared of how powerful my worldview is.

But what about you?

Why do you want to debate me if you don't even know what my position is?

Literally ask me what I think the cause of mass migration is.

You ask me a question.

I ask you a question.

It's a big debate, you fucking retard, man.

I asked you a question

back to explain to you.

You don't even know what my position is

because if you did, you wouldn't have

the views that you do have.

You wouldn't view this under a racial lens like you do.

So I asked you what you think the causes are,

Socratically, so I could walk you through why you're fucking wrong, you fucking idiot.

I already know what you think the causes are.

That's the thing.

It's a Socratic question.

I know you think the cause is the Jews.

And I know you think what mass migration,

the primary thing that it's doing is it's diluting the purity of the DNA of the race.

That's what you think.

I already know what your views are.

You don't know what my views are, but I know what yours are.

You understand?

So I'm giving you the opportunity to say that so I could actually dismantle and destroy your worldview. Go ahead.

I don't know your views because you're fucking irrelevant. I just saw you spurt it.

I'm irrelevant, so why? Why? Forget you being in my VC. Your number one leader, Nick Fuentes, is fucking with me on Twitter.

You're all coordinating to make sure your leader ratios me on Twitter, right?

Why, if I'm irrelevant?

Why is Keith Woods posting clips of me if I'm irrelevant?

If I'm irrelevant. Why is Keith Woods posting clips of me if I'm irrelevant? If I'm irrelevant,

why have you come

to, why have your leaders come before me?

Unprovoked.

You're the one in this story everybody

why did Keith Woods come before me

on my throne

even though I did not beckon or summon him

if I'm irrelevant

go ahead

you know it's funny when nick

ratios people he doesn't retweet

his fucking reply you have to retweet it

everybody please distort please

do I need to show you

the receipts on stream of how you guys

all fucking have your

little gay juice nonsense you do in your

telegrams.

Because let's not fucking go there.

Yeah, I

fucking use all of the avenues i have available to me to get an edge on the algorithm

because we're facing a fucking uphill battle and yes i have a small community so yes every single one

of my fucking followers i mobilize so that my views can be heard. Because if they want

my views to be heard, because they believe it's true, of course we're going to organize for my voice

to be fucking heard. Because it's not just that it's my voice. It's my message they want to be heard.

Because there's been a deliberate effort, because it's the same that it's my voice, it's my message they want to be heard, because there's been a

deliberate effort, because it's the same

fucking reason your leaders won't debate me

because they're trying to suppress my message

which fucking destroys and demolishes

your entire outlook and your entire

worldview. So yeah, we have to

fucking work hard to boot. You think I'm fucking ashamed

of that? I'll be the first

to say it.

You think I can grow

organically? You think that's possible?

There's no such thing.

You think a communist

whose anti-NATO is going to be able to just

get away with that?

You're pathetic, bro, you can only talk

behind a mute, you can only fucking monologue.

I wrecked you, you're a fucking pussy.

What, what, okay, you want to debate about it.

Why do you think the Jews are responsible

for mass migration, based on what evidence?

Let's start with there.

Are you going to let me talk, or Are you going to mute me? Because you're

going to unmute you and you're going to directly respond to me or are you going to get

muted again? Unmuted.

How much time do I get to speak?

You're muted again. Once again, I'm going to unmute you.

You're going to directly respond or you're being muted. Go ahead.

I can't make a point if you meet me.

You're such a pussy. You're such a pussy.

You are so scared to debate.

You're so scared to debate.

Just fucking make your point.

Why do you think the Jews are responsible for mass migration?

Go ahead.

How am I scared to debate?

You're the one hiding behind a mute every five seconds, you fucking.

And you're hiding behind a fucking voice changer.

Did you forget that?

Did you forget?

You know, how does the vice signaling even count if you're not going to like get yourself, you know, censored and attacked?

You're like, I'm scared that I'm going to lose my job over this.

But that's what you're always like vice signaling about.

How much, you know, when you say shit that's stepping on people's toes and offending them

it's going to make it so that you're going to be

less accepted by society. It's like

but why are you muted? Why are you using a

voice changer then? Once again, make your

fucking argument or you're getting muted. Go ahead.

I'm not a public figure

I work professional

so make your fucking argument or you're getting

muted go ahead

there you go I just answered

your question make your

argument about why you think the Jews are behind

mass migration go why you think the Jews are behind mass migration.

Go ahead.

I think the Jews are behind mass migration because you're a fucking pussy and you can't let me talk for 10 seconds about me and move.

So there you have it.

That's the extent of his argument that's the extent of his argument

there you go i mean what else is there to talk about what else is there to talk about there

you go.

So you're saying the reason why you think the Jews are behind mass migration is because I'm muting you.

Well, before tonight, I wasn't muting you.

So is your view that Jews have not been behind mass migration until tonight?

Go ahead, answer that.

Look, even your own chat is saying to kick me because I'm fucking ripping your ass from love?

Look at that very specific

fantasy he just had

look at that

that's pretty crazy

who who where did that come from

where did that come from so Where did that come from?

So admit it, you have no arguments.

We can't even debate.

You know if this is a real debate where we eat?

Yeah, he's a pussy who has no arguments.

Let's bring up Sam 24. Go ahead.

You are, Mike. Can you hear me?

Yeah, I could hear you

but lovely lovely lovely

right um I'm gonna preface this

I don't fuck when Nick Fuentes

that geyser has always rubbed me up the wrong way

with all the earth stuff about him

but I did see the

if you're not then then why what are we

debating about then what are we fucking debating about you know that's kind of

crazy it's like you don't fuck with nick flintas so So what are we debating about?

Pretty incredible, pretty incredible pretty incredible So where are they?

Where are the people who are actually going to debate?

Where are they at?

Where are they at? back in the public life. It's like what... Jay Scah with the 45.

Wow.

What's going on?

Jiska, the 45.

Wow. Wow Wow

Wow

Holy shit.

What the fuck?

Holy shit, another 45 from Jiska.

Holy fuck!

We are super fucking high energy today.

J-Ska, what's going on, man?

Anyway, Strala Stanley, what's up?

That's what these people, they do that vice signaling.

Oh, but, but, but, but, this is, this is such a forbidden moral of it.

See, listen, you get to a point where it's not about whether this view is spicy and it's a it's a spicy little forbidden view like it's a forbidden fruit. Communists don't have forbidden views. We don't have untouchable topics. We don't have, we believe in what Marx said, the ruthless criticism of all things unconditionally.

So if I reject racism, it's not because I'm afraid of the arguments of the racist or afraid to arrive at those conclusions myself.

Cros, what's going on? User Tom, what's going on

we're not afraid of them we recognize

if we are American communists

if we are American communists you are not going to build a unified nation by stepping on the toes of every non-white and non-European in origin racial group in this country. That is not how you're going to build a unified popular front and a unified

national awakening. Now that's a very concrete direct to the point statement that I'm making.

You want to fucking cancel me over it?

You want to cancel me over that?

Let's continue.

I said something very simple.

And also he goes,

what's the reason you and Vosch?

The fact that the only significance of Vosch in your eyes,

Joe Sizzlag, what's going on?

Is that, see, see, he's making it seem like you have to go out of your way

not to be a fucking Nazi.

Like, unless you're

literal Adolf Hitler

you know

nonsense that you're

somehow forcing that

but the onus is

on you to force that your belief is correct

you haven't done that

I don't find your view convincing

or persuasive.

He goes, organized

Jewish power, even if that was

a real thing, that that is what

is like controlling everything, right?

Even if there was a significant,

organized Jewish power, let's just concede to you that there was

for the sake of argument. It wouldn't be able to be exercised if not for the fact that we have a system in which the private interest dominates the common interest.

We live in a capitalist system or a system controlled by capitalist institutions, which are not accountable to any popular

sovereignty. So it's popular sovereignty that matters. It's the supremacy of the common interest that matters concretely and tangibly,

not focusing on whether there's some groups here or there taking advantage of the state of affairs, but the state of affairs itself. By the way,

this is conceding for the sake of argument these claims that they're making about the Jews,

even if it was true. It's still

would it matter.

If you want to say, if you want to sit here and claim the root cause of it is Judaism, you're wrong.

Judaism wasn't behind the enclosures in England, where peasants were robbed of their means of production and herded into fucking factories. Jews weren't behind that.

Jews weren't behind the same thing that happened in Germany and in France. Jews weren't behind the indebtedness of the French peasant that forced them off their land, proletarianized them, made them wage slaves.

Jews were not behind the merciless cruelty of the capitalist mode of production and its ruthlessness.

Jews weren't behind all of these

genocides and looting and plunder across the fucking world through capitalist colonialism.

People venturing out to turn a fucking dime,

barbarically looting and liquidating entire civilizations.

Jews weren't behind that. everything bad is because of the Jews really really it seems like you're coping you see you know why I reject that because I could see

the evil in your fucking

eyes. That's why I've always rejected these far-eye guys. They've always told me,

Haas, come to us. Come to us. But I see the fucking evil in your eyes. I see the wickedness

inside of you. You're coping. You want to sit here and say,

oh, the Jews, the Jews. No, but I see it in you. I see it in you. I see the snake inside you.

I see your snake-like depravity, your evil, your wickedness, and your sin. I see it in you. I see it in you. And I witness, I witness how these cannibals cannibalize each other.

I see the cruelty with which they treat each other, how they fuck each other over and do all this twisted, fucked up shit.

I see the dynamics of how their little cohesion is maintained, and I want nothing to fucking do with it.

There's a wickedness and there's an evil. There's an evil and a wickedness.

Antichrist.

Antichrist.

It bears the mark of the fucking antichrist. All the holy books warn you about these devils and sheep's clothing.

That's exactly what I'm getting out of this. That's exactly what I see. Evil.

Evil. nobody else gets the impression something's wrong here all this stuff about racial cannibalism and

all these races are subhuman and the there we need to we need to get rid drive these people out.

You know, black Americans are lesser because they're lower IQ and they're not.

All this stuff.

You don't see there's something fucking twisted about this shit.

Where it's going?

Where is this headed?

Tell me where this was headed.

This page. Where it's going? Where is this headed? Tell me where this was headed. This pagan swastika they have. What the fuck is that shit? This pagan SS ruinic, druidic, you know, Thelima shit, Theosophy stuff.

What the fuck is that coming from?

Something wrong is going on.

Something twisted.

Something twisted is going on.

You know?

What's going on with those

German castles and all

those Belgian fucking

journalists who got killed

and all those people who said they're doing

all these rituals and these German castles in Europe

raping children and shit doing fucking blood rituals and then all these journalists just get killed

and disappear in the Dutro affair what's going on with the Dutro affair. What's going on with the Dutro affair?

High-ranking NATO officials were involved. The NATO secretary people hearing screams coming out of those German castles that the SS always used to frequent huh huh and they want me to fall in line and join this stuff. Huh? I don't think so.

Something wicked. Someone's wicked and twisted about it.

Something's wicked. All of them. Even Keith Woods. There's just something wicked and twisted about these.

It's like they, I can, you know that,

trying to think of where this is from.

It's like there's like a little demon inside of them.

And every time they get an opportunity to be cannibals,

racial can, it's like their eyes light up.

And it's like they're getting off on it they're getting off on the the cannibalism

you know torture call people subhuman and exterminate them it's like they get a kick out of it, you know?

They get a fucking kick out of it.

Like Ted Bundy-style shit, you know?

Ted Bunk- fucking... Ted bunk fucking uh john Wayne gasey type of nonsense look what i say

yeah i believe

he goes you think the west is controlled by capitalists rather than Jewish people.

Yeah, I believe the actual people

who own the fucking means.

You know what that means? The means of

production. The means

of production. The means

by which everything is produced

that we feed ourselves and shelter ourselves

and clothe ourselves, everything we need to survive, the people who own that, the capitalist

class control the West.

That's what I believe, yes.

But he's trying to set this up and make it seem like

it's self-evidently wrong and absurd.

And look what I say. This was a nuke.

I didn't expect him to respond to this

nuclear bomb, because how can he?

I mean, this is all you need to say.

You're a white nationalist Catholic integralist

in a country where most whites are Protestant

and most Catholics are brown. That's a nuclear bomb. I don't even know what I need to say beyond that.

He goes, and who controls the banking cartels, genius?

You know, Nick Fuentes, I got him to concede in that when he was on Zirka stream, when he was brought on on that he doesn't even think the majority

of the people who control these are Jews.

I got him to admit that.

Because that's why he's not saying it.

Neo-Nazis?

No, they're not the neo-Nazis.

They're the fucking Archaeo-Nazis.

They're the actual fucking theo-Nazis. They're the actual fucking

theosophist, occultist, Satanist, who fucking bankrolled the Nazis in the first place, you retard.

These old dynastic families in Europe.

Look what this shit, he says.

I know you might feel like a genius being around Jackson Hinkle all the time,

but next to me or Keith, you are as dumb as the average leftist like Vos or Destiny.

Where does the posturing come from?

Fucking prove it.

Why don't you fucking debate me then and prove it?

What does this have to do with intelligence?

You think you need to be smart to squeal about Jews? You think that

takes intelligence? Look what he says. You are dumb compared to me or Keith. Keith steals his

shit from me. Why do you think Keith was watching my YouTube? Nick Fuentes to clip my stuff. Keith Woods, he's writing substacks about me. He's stealing my Twitter threads. He's even trying to steal our talking points. The other day, you know, someone sent me he's trying to talk about now.

Oh, actually, you know, fucking Keith Woods is trying to talk about financial capitalism now.

Because of us and deindustrialization and industrial, you know, industrial economics and stuff.

And he's just stealing it from us.

Keith Woods is a pseudo intellectual who rips off everything from me.

He's looking everything that he's looking for to give his world view an edge he steals it from me

he's literally a tether. Stole my Carl Popper thread.

He's some great intellectual how.

You know, Keith Woods debated me on China,

and I wiped the floor with him on China

because he tried to say China was fascist.

I wiped the floor with him.

But then he started bringing up that he had prepared before him the Turner guy's book on the Nazis in Germany.

I didn't prepare for that topic and bring all the evidence in the names.

But even then throughout that debate, I still

wiped him on the question of the pre-1932 circle of German bankers and capitalists who backed Hitler

before 1932.

But he won't debate me.

He won't debate me again.

I mean, I shouldn't even say again because the first time was just about China.

On the substantive issues that he's gibbering about, he won't debate me.

What's wrong with reparations? What's wrong with reparations?

Yo, what up, Vi? How you doing? I said the majority aren't Jews. I could prove that in a debate.

And this is so fucking true.

It's like he believes in a right-wing version of DEI.

He just wants to have quotas for white Catholics.

He does nothing to actually address

or challenge the system.

And then he goes, the Catholic... He said, you're not

the Catholic Church, though, Nick Fuentes.

You do nothing to actually critique

the system. You do nothing

to critique the actual ownership. You do nothing to critique the actual ownership. You do nothing to

fucking critique the monopolies. I've never seen you do it. You've never done it. You've never

done it. You've never, you... As a matter of fact, I'm pretty sure I could produce evidence of him saying before that he thinks that stuff doesn't matter.

He's like, I don't care about capitalism or socialism.

I just care about Jews.

There you go.

And he calls me ignorant in Washington out of my death.

You're not the Catholic Church.

And you can claim all you want that reactionaries don't support free market capitalism.

But reactionaries have historically always ran

cover for and supported the actual fucking capitalists whether you want to call

them free market or not as irrelevant you support reparations and deny the existence of organized Jewry.

I support reparations.

Do I deny that there's organized Jewish groups and even like networks of Jews who nepotistically fucking have each other's back, they probably exist. Why the fuck not? But the idea that you can somehow establish a meaningful relationship to the system

that we have

in opposing it or challenging it

by hyper-focusing on

that fact is fucking retarded.

Yeah, I don't deny

there's, by the way,

there's organized,

there's organized Muslims.

There's organized fucking episcopalance.

I mean, there's nothing,

there's nothing extraordinary

about there being organized Jewry.

But you know the Jews are fucking fighting each other, right?

The Soros Jews versus the J. Street Jews, the backed by Soros, that's what I meant.

The J Street Jews versus the backed by Soros, that's what I meant. The J. Street Jews versus the fucking Netanyahu Jews.

A-PAC versus J-Street.

Liberal Jews versus the fucking right-wing ones.

You know,

reform Jews versus the

Orthodox Jews.

You don't fucking know this because

he calls me ignorant and washed

if you knew anything about Jews.

If you knew anything about Jews,

you know that every fucking Jew I've talked to who's like a Jewish religious, like ideologists or political ideologies, like someone who's actually like a Jewish identity guy. Every single one of them.

No one. There's no one they have more beef with.

No one they have more beef with than another faction of Jews. And it's without fucking exception.

Every single Jew that I know,

for whom Jewish identity is a relevant factor

in their political or religious outlook,

there is no other faction of people

that they have more beef with than other fucking Jews. If you don't know that,

you don't know anything about Jews. You fucking know nothing about them. Jewish religious solidarity is

only as strong as the divisions that lead them to start tearing each other apart over theology and, you know, what they think is best for the Jewish, all this kind of stuff, that's, you don't understand that dynamic because you fucking know nothing about the topic.

And I said something very simple. I said the Catholic Church,

since he wants to mention that, also

condemns racism.

But that doesn't stop you from adopting

it. Look what he says. Now

you're squealing about racism.

Lyle Nuff said, so this is the

argument of a pussy

who has no integrity and has no argument.

They're just vice signaling.

They're vice signaling to lost teenagers

and bullied retards

retards, you know, who were bullied in high school.

Literal, like, I mean mentally special needs.

Not kidding.

That's it. He doesn't need to debate me because he has no principles it suffices for me to reject racism

for him to discredit me to his audience. No honor. No, when have I ever denied a debate to someone

who challenged my views? There's no honor.

By the way, am I being hyperbolic to call Nick Flentes a racist?

Nick Fuentes believes that black people are inferior.

Now, he won't admit that, but on everything that makes us human human which is our capacity to build civilizations and transform nature in conformity with our humanity to organize societies to be social beings

on everything that makes us human

Nick Fuentes regards black people as less than white people and that's a fact and by doing that he is insulting their dignity and he's stepping on their toes and don't ask me ask and he's stepping on their toes. And don't ask me, ask them.

He's stepping on their toes.

Let me tell you something.

Let me tell you some.

He never said that.

When I talk to Nick Frentas, he told me directly, he doesn't think Africans have the aptitude to build civilizations and technology.

That's what he told me.

So go fucking back and play the Vod.

That is his view.

That is his view.

So I want you to think logically because

Nick Fuentes is supposedly a genius.

Nick Fuentes is supposedly a genius, right? But let's actually play that back and take this logic to its conclusion.

If Nick Fuentes' movement ever came to any significance and prominence, it's not the Jews, quote-unquote, whose toes are going to be the most stepped on.

Their toes are already big, you know what's funny?

The so-called organized Jewish power Zionist power

If that's what you're referring to

Doesn't even care about the rise of Hitlerism

You know I have Jewish friends

And I ask them

I said

Even then I was like guys You know everyone's always saying Jews are in control

of everything. How could that be if like, you know, are there no powerful Jews that are worried about, like,

the rise of Hitler stuff and all this? And he goes, no, no, they don't give a fuck about that.

I said, what? He goes, yeah, all the Jews

who are in positions of prominence

and prestige and have, like, pull,

all they care about is Israel.

They don't care about Holocaust denial.

They don't care about rehabilitating Hitler. They don't care about Holocaust denial. They don't care about rehabilitating Hitler.

They don't care about white nationalism.

They don't care about racism.

They just care about pro-Israel stuff.

I said, wow.

That's interesting.

I said, that's interesting I said

that's really interesting

so organized

Jewish power is not the toes

you're going to be stepping on

you're going to be stepping on the toes

of the black people in this country.

You know, why was the media focusing on Charlottesville a lot? You think it was because white liberals?

You think white liberals control the world? No. Actually, the reason white liberals

are sensitive about racism is because

it's their way of trying to manage the actual

racial conflicts in this country that are real.

Black people have their own sense of dignity.

They have their own sense of history.

They have their own sense of a unique predicament.

They have their own communities and culture and family.

And when they turn on the TV and see the rise of the KKK and all this, you know, it's

bringing, they, they, it's organic, it's not an ideology, you know, that they're being

under attack.

You're coming out here saying that black people are low IQ and, you know, we can't

have black people. They're all criminals. You're fucking stepping on their toes. If your shit

ever got anywhere near power, it'd be violence.

It'd be violence and rioting.

Black people, Mexicans, you fucking name it.

It would be pandemonium.

It would be race riots.

You think those people are going to sit there lying down and watch, you know, why do you think the ruling elite, you know, virtue signal against racism? Think about it. You think the ruling elite is anti-racist because they're sincere?

The ruling elite preaches anti-racism because they fucking know that race riots and racial instability and conflict is a very real possibility

that could blow up like a powder keg this country from under them.

If the elites did not fear black people, why did the FBI infiltrate and dismantle every black power organization that's ever existed?

Why did they target and dismantle and destroy the Black Panther Party?

And why did they help kill Malcolm X and kill Martin Luther King?

Why did they do that?

The elites are racist.

You know, you, you, it's like these people, they're, they're indulging in this kind of edginess and they think that they're challenging the system. That's what all the people up top believe privately. You're just saying it out in the open. The reason they don't say it out in the open is because there's going to be

fucking riots and violence. Black people, if you remember what happened after World War II,

started standing up and said, we're sick of being

mistreated. We're sick of our

dignity and our honor

being attacked.

And so there were all this

upheavals, all of this

black power, you name it.

And the ruling elites, the status quo has to manage that.

It has to ameliorate at.

It has to tame and diffuse all the grievances.

If you step on the toes and insult the dignity of an entire people, you will never build an anti-system, anti-hegemony coalition.

You will never bring the people of this country together

to overthrow the system and challenge the elites.

Whether they're Jews or whether they're not Jews, whatever, whether they're

reptilians, it doesn't fucking matter. You have no chance against any elites unless you unite

and build a coalition of all of the major racial groups in this country. That means you have to

respect them. You have to sacrifice and hear their perspective and hear them out and make

compromises. And there's no fucking way around it.

And why do I reject the anti-Jew stuff and the JQ stuff?

Because it's not anti-Zionism, it's racism.

It's the first stepping stone for them to it's not anti-Zionism, it's racism.

It's the first stepping stone for them to open the door to racialization.

Racialization of politics, racial balkanization.

That's why I rejected, because they oppose Jews on racial grounds. They believe all Jews are genetically disposed to something. That's the stepping stone for them to come after. Black people,

Mexicans, you fucking name it. Not on my watch. Not on my watch. By the way, there's no white identity.

There's no international white identity. There's no such thing. Anyone who believes that white Americans and white Europeans somehow share the same nation is a traitor to their

nation. If you are a Frenchman and you believe that

as a white Frenchman, the white American

is your

national kin,

you are a traitor to France,

and if you're American who believes that you're

a traitor to America.

Maybe, maybe

there can be a pan-European unity

where Germans and friends can all come together

because they're shared history or whatever.

But this is a whole fucking new continent.

This is America.

This is a whole new thing.

We are a totally different country that was founded in large part by people who fled Europe to build something totally fucking new, totally fucking new.

And who didn't know where that would end up.

They didn't know where that would end up.

There was no clarity about where that would end up there was no clarity

about where that road ends

but they all knew they wanted to get

out of Europe and leave Europe

and face west

Lionel

what's up

if you want Lionel, what's up?

If you want to be Europe, go back to Europe.

This is not Europe.

So the Americans of European descent in this country are Americans.

They're Americans.

You know these scumbags mock maga?

And you know they mock Maga's

rejection

of racism? They're always mocking the

Maga boomers who believe in

multiracialism. You know, they're always making memes of the Maga boomers who believe in multiracialism.

You know, they're always making memes of the Maga Boomer who's like, I don't care about color.

We're all Americans.

I don't care about race.

And they detest that and they mock it.

And they say that's cringe.

Well, no, that's a fucking American patriot.

And you're a fucking traitor.

An enemy of this fucking country.

You're an enemy of the purport of the possibility of an American nation.

If you want America to be a colony of Europe,

just say that's what you believe.

But the purport of an American nation

is distinct from a European nation.

It's a different nation.

And the Maga Boomers are correct. Thank you. Look at this retard calling me a liberal.

He doesn't know his whole fucking racial ideology comes from liberalism.

Before liberalism, there is no such thing. This retard is sitting here calling Genghis Khan a liberal.

He's calling Soleiman the magnificent a liberal. He's calling Solomon the magnificent a liberal.

He's sitting here

calling the fiercest, most

ruthless nomadic conquerors in history

liberals.

He's calling Cyrus

the Great a liberal.

No, they're not liberals. You are. Your whole ideology is from

liberalism. Thank you. Unless you can name me a single great empire in history, an organic, authentic empire in history, a single empire, great ancient empire in history that believed in racism, shut your fucking mouth about liberalism.

Look how these guys think that they win because they ratio. They go, we're winning because you got ratioed. You're

stupid because you disagreed with Nick Fuentes. That's how they define stupidity. But your leader won't

debate me. Isn't that curious? Isn't it curious how your leader is not responding to the challenge to actually fucking debate?

Isn't that curious?

And they may pretend that they're ignoring this, but I know Keith Woods and all of you, I know you're watching and you're lurking and you're seeing

all this. You will

have to debate me. It will happen.

You don't have a choice in the matter.

I can promise you.

Isn't that funny,

Amirio? Apparently on Nick nick fenta's stream they're banning all of my followers

but we didn't even ban any of theirs from mine now who's scared of censorship now who's

scared this guy's name

hossam calling me a brown

Muslim

do I have that

his name is hossam

and he's calling me brown

did I read that correctly do my eyes deceive me do my eyes deceive me do my eyes deceive me?

Fascinating.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

I am white.

Trust me, I am not. I am white.

Trust me, I am white.

You know what this reminds me of?

Remember when Rev angered the entire Hinduftah Indians?

Like, he angered like 800 million people with that thing he did, and all came after me and it was just like a bunch of fucking retards like flooding my shit with nonsense that's what this

reminds me of straight up they literally behave like indians nationalists, Hindufta.

They actually behave like that.

It's incredible.

That's how they operate and behave.

It's the same shit.

Your 30 IQ points less than Nick.

Okay, then have him debate me.

Then have him debate me.

Why is he so scared to the... it should be quick work then, right?

Should be easy work.

Guy's name is Florida

Catholic. He's calling my

skin brown. First of all,

who cares?

Second of all, your name's Florida Catholic.

Should I talk like your leader?

Second of all, your name's Florida Catholic.

Your name's Florida Catholic.

Sounds like you're brown to me, buddy.

Sounds like you're a gusano out here.

Sounds like Castro.

Sounds like Castro. you a gusano out here sounds like castro sounds like castro took something from your granddaddy sounds like your grandpa got blown the fuck out by castro who mugged the shit out of you. Sounds like

Che Guevara was lining your people up.

Little bitch. Florida

Catholic. What the fuck does that mean?

Sounds

like Castro got

has beef with you.

Who the fuck is this?

Who the fuck is this?

Yo, say something.

These people can't eat, they don't even have mics.

These people don't even have mics.

Look at this dude.

You don't even have a mic.

You're irrelevant.

Nick only debates famous people now.

A, why the fuck did Nick Fuentes grovel? Why did he come before me?

I was sitting on my throne and he came before me. I didn't even summon him.

Nick Fuentes came to my throne, came before me. I didn't even summon him.

Meaning I wasn't even thinking about him and he came before me. No, this is rich. And then Nick Fuentes, Jackson Hinkle, has what, 10 times the following is Nick?

And Nick was claiming Jackson should have to debate him.

Why would Jackson debate Nick Fuentes if Nick Fuentes won't debate me?

If his logic and reasoning is that I don't have enough followers, then why

couldn't Jackson just use the same logic? You know, think about it. Think about it. Why couldn't

Jackson just use that same logic then? Who are you? then.

Who are you?

I'm the guy he came and tried to fuck with and got blown the fuck out.

I'm the guy he came and responded to and replied to.

I'm the guy his buddy Keith Woods is posting a clip from my

YouTube from. That's me.

You see, I don't give a fuck about any

of you. They came to me. They came

before me. That's who I am.

By the way, it's an open debate to any of you.

It's an open debate to any of you.

We're waiting for you to get in the show Q.

We're waiting for you to get in the show Q.

Jackson is botted.

He ratioed the fuck out of you.

How do you not understand you're a woman oh you're not a woman that's an insult to women you're more like a deformed freakish twisted i mean you can't be called a man. What is that?

Gossip girl.

You're a gossip girl.

He ratioed you? Who gives a fuck about that?

Does that stop Keith Woods from waking

up and cold sweats at night about me?

Listen, if you think this is about numbers, you don't know how the industry works.

You think it's about numbers.

That's not how the industry works.

You understand?

Both your boy, Nick Fentes, and

Keith Woods,

regard me as a fucking menace.

They regard me as a

menace, and they keep tabs on me

because they fucking know.

They know how little their fucking

numbers manner in my midst. They know they know how little their fucking numbers matter

in my midst

they know how little their numbers matter

in my midst

it doesn't matter with viewers and all this

you think it mattered when I had 50 viewers

and I went and destroyed fucking Vosch in one night

and Destiny and Zanderhal? You think I gave a fuck about numbers? Tell me, listen. They think it's about numbers

chat tell them how many chats we took over

when I had 70 followers

with sun gorillas

and how we hijacked entire fucking influencers

and streamers with what we're literally a pirate crew of like 70 people

that did that. And now we're much more than that. But I digress. One of us is 1,000 of you. Never forget that.

One of my guys eats a hundred of yours for breakfast.

One of my guys.

You know how much terror?

You know how much anguish my people?

Inspire and invoke in people, why do you think they won't debate me?

Look at my community. Look no further than this community you see. Show them with the sun guerrillas right now. Show my power with the sun gorillas right now.

Show my power with

the sun gorillas.

And do

it fucking

fast.

You see

this enthusiasm,

you see

this belief?

You see

this dedication?

It comes from somewhere. And the more exposure you give me, the more of a fucking opportunity you give me to fill my ranks and to expand my army. And they know that and I know that and all of my people know that. The dedication of one of my soldiers.

Not 500 of yours can match it. we are one of the few communities on the internet that isn't bought it every single person you see is a real person who really and genuinely is committed and dedicated to this. Every single one of them. You see them every single one. It's a unique person. There's no bots. Imagine if we were bought it,

how big we'd be.

And all of them bought their shit.

All of them.

It's a standard practice, and I don't fucking do it. Your communities, they're scattered, they're disarrayed they don't have unity they're based on corruption

they lack honor they lack honor as the foundation the glue that bonds your people together.

We are the fucking Mongols, bitch.

You think Genghis Khan had numbers?

Starting out, he had what?

He was outnumbered 20 to 1.

And it's the cohesion.

It's the belief.

It's the dedication that scatters armies 20 times bigger to the wind. Gorillas don't come after me with everything they've fucking got.

You think I care?

My people will come after you 20 times harder.

This is a beehive.

You can't get off your fucking back without banning and blocking all of them.

And trust me, it's what 99% of people do.

Keith Woods blocks so many of my followers.

Ones of Keith Woods have blocked you.

It's so common it's so common it's so common they just block all my people all of my ops all of my opponents

all of them block my people for a reason

yeah because we actually believe this shit

like we actually believe it

because we're not intelligent

the average literacy rate of my followers are philosophers and poets and intellectuals and scientists and engineers.

We are literally, we are the Mongol army Renaissance men.

You understand?

You don't have a single Kareem in your community.

You don't have a single Volkvulture in your community.

You don't have a single Rev.

You don't have a single one of our fucking people in your communities. You don't have a single rev. You don't have a single one of our fucking

people in your communities. You don't have a

single equivalent to RTSG. You have

nothing. You have

nothing. I would

rather take this community

over the

Groypers, even if they were 10 times bigger than they are now, and making

me 5 billion times more richer.

I don't have you don't have this

you don't have a con you don't have a sultan you don't have a sultan. You don't have an army. All you guys have is nonsense. You have crypto bullshit scams. We're so back. We're so back. Yeah, back in the fucking dirt.

Because our horses are going to take turns fucking stepping on your bitch ass.

Where's your F-pack grandma americana what's going on where's your afpac yo for robbie with 10. What's going on?

What's going on?

Where's my AFPAC? What a stupid a way where's your af pack how about you stop showing me your ass crack bitch

how about stop walking around?

Everybody's smelling your ass crack.

You stinky unshowered little bitch.

Go take a fucking shower.

And wipe your ass for once in your life.

You dirty, unclean, fucking basement-dwelling freak. This dude is a cringe lord.

This dude is a cringe lord.

Y'all ain't ready.

Oh man, they're not ready.

They are not ready for this shit.

Guys, they are really not ready.

They are really not ready for this shit.

It's like when they see, when this, when this, see, we are literally being contained right now, you know, we're like in a cave right now, you know.

Sapitismo.

When we get unleashed onto the world, the world will tremble. They will

literally tremble before us.

This community that's been

built here, this movement,

you're not ready for it. I promise you

you're not. I promise you're not ready

for it.

Put this into perspective.

Just think about this

for a second.

I was

five times more

of a nobody

then than I am now.

You know,

Max on Twitch,

I had 18K followers.

That was my max.

Okay?

I was less well known.

I actually, I actually got into destiny's head.

That's crazy.

That's crazy.

When we were beefing,

I actually got in his head.

And he was actually like,

like, it was actually a problem for him.

For weeks.

I had so much less people.

I had so many less people.

So many less.

Like I had nobody, like basically compared to DGG.

Are you kidding?

Like this guy's getting millions on YouTube.

I was a fucking nobody.

But for weeks, that back and forth, holy shit.

That was something.

That was something.

That was something. That was something. That was something.

That was something.

If you think this is about numbers, you don't understand how it works.

All right.

That was something. Okay? That was something.

Okay?

That was something.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. They don't understand.

And nobody understood it either.

That's why, you know, Destiny, he did that blacklist on me shortly.

He's like, we got to contain this infrared guy.

We got to put him back into containment.

No way we're letting

this guy be unleashed on the world.

No way.

And then Jackson...

It's always a backup, you know?

Isn't that interesting?

There's always a backup.

Jackson takes everyone by storm.

Everyone's confused about that.

They're like, where does this Jackson guy come from?

Is he CIA?

No, he's a g-aa guerrillas incorporated in america bitch

you know they're like is this guy he came out of nowhere he didn't come from nowhere he

didn't come from nowhere you You see, we got a... Put it this way.

We got a spawn point, and there's a lot of monsters we're summoning.

There's a lot of monsters we're summoning.

I'm going to speak this in nerd terms, right?

We got a summoning pool going, a black summoning

pool going on in the deepest, darkest

caverns and caves.

A lot of crazy things coming out of this shit.

A lot of crazy things are coming

out of this. A lot of

sorcerers and wizards are conjuring up some crazy things. this is like sauron you know that's what's exactly that's exactly what this is like saran you know that's what that's exactly that's exactly what this is this is more door

this is more door you understand this is more door i'm saran these are the or. This is the Urukai, you know.

This is the Uru Kai.

Let's get it.

Let's get it going for the Uru Kai.

Let's go.

Let's get it going for the Uru Kai.

You don't know what's going on, do you?

Oh, You don't know what's going on, do you? Whom do you serve?

My fighting Urukai, Samma

Bha!

Bha! That's right to me. Back on the menu, back on the menu.

That's right.

Needs back on the menu.

We have a frauds for dinner. Oh, I'm gonna'all. And so on the...

...andah!

...and... I'm a good. And then And I'm Oh! Oh!

Oh!

Oh!

Oh!

Oh! I'm Hey Oh What? Oh! Oh! Oh!

What? That's exactly what's going on that's exactly what we have going on Hey, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Who made this?

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Oh man, we don't want to start this.

We don't want to start this. We don't want to start this.

We don't want to do this.

Oh, no, we don't want to do this.

Oh, my God. what is this?

Listen, you don't want to smoke with us.

All right, I promise.

You don't know what you're dealing with.

You don't know what you're dealing with.

All right.

Yo, who the fuck are you?

Graper?

Why are you stumbling and mumbling like a nervous little bitch?

Why don't you speak with your chest and actually talk like a man, go ahead.

All right. So you're talking about the Mongolian emperor empire and you're saying that there's this multi-racial fucking utopia, but I was reading up on it and they had a ethnic hierarchy.

You mean in a hierarchy of the people who were descendants of the conquerors and actually

were the conquerors themselves? Why is that so surprising?

But it's not just sort of like a royal family.

It's literally like the Mongolians were held at the top.

Yeah, because they're the ones who fuck, yeah, because the spoils of war go to the fucking,

because imagine you start out with about, what, a few thousand people and you take on giant empires, of course, who's getting all the spoils of war?

But then what happened across time? For example, the Yuan dynasty. More and more, the bulk of the Mongol invading force, a lot of them are going back home to Mongolia. The ones

that are remaining are increasingly appointing

indigenousing local

appointing local rulers,

right? Well, yeah,

what are you going to do? Just kill everybody?

I mean, if you conquer an Asian,

you start to incorporate

First, the conquest happens, and it's a direct

reign of the conquerors, and then they

assimilate to the civilization they conquered,

which is multiracial and multi-ethnic. Any

more questions?

No, but

So you just got blown the fuck out

what else you have

I mean it's a multi-ethnic

and of course they're gonna incorporate

but it's just like every other empire

throughout history

it's basically drawn along racial lines

how is it drawn along racial lines

because Mongolians were of higher fucking hierarchy but all of the top positions are increasingly being opened up to non-mongolians which is actually what happened no they would they would incorporate other, the elites of the societies that they conquered in order to, you know, better integrate.

That's just to better integrate them, but that's what you do when you conquer.

No, it's not, they weren't integrating the civilization they were being integrated into it you dumbass

okay what's the difference the difference is the mongols conquer china and assimilate into china the

civilization they conquered.

All right.

Well, I was just going to say it about the Mavolians, but... Yeah.

What else?

I mean, when nomads first conquer,

the empire's not yet consolidated, and yeah, temporarily, they are ruling as a top cast over everyone else temporarily. But the great empire is only born after that temporary circumstance of the conquerors

militarily just ruling

changes from that to a definite system of governance

which has always been multiracial and multi-ethic.

There's never been a definitive system of governance

that has been enshrined and put in place that racially was only one group allowed and no one else.

All right.

Well, I'm not a fucking Mongolian expert, but...

Yeah, but she came on and decided to debate about it

like a fucking retard.

That's the problem.

Well, what's the problem is that you're just

brushing away

the fact that Jews are heavily involved

at 9-11, like, it's not a big deal when that actually is very fucking important.

Were Saudis involved?

Sure, but guess who stood to benefit from 9-11?

So the Saudis involved didn't stand to benefit?

In what way?

I mean, a lot of them

funded it and shit.

How did they benefit

from 9-11?

Why did they do it if they didn't

benefit?

I know why Israel did it.

So do you think only Israel benefited, that's it?

That I can even think of, yeah.

Did the U.S.'s oil monopoly benefit?

Probably. Did the U.S.'s oil monopoly benefit? Probably, but...

Did NATO benefit?

Uh, by...

I mean, did they, though, like, creating an enemy of...

I don't know.

I don't know.

What happened to the trillions of dollars

that, quote-unquote,

went into the war on Afghanistan

for arms,

even though it wasn't audited,

and no one knew where the fucking money went.

And they laundered it all to NATO and NATO allies.

All right, but do you understand how Israel's benefiting from 9-11?

From U.S. presence in Iraq?

How does that help him?

You know, to be honest,

in the long term,

Saddam was not really a genuine threat

to Israel.

He wasn't.

Like, he straight up wasn't.

The threat to Israel was the...

Was the...

What do they call it?

The road through Baghdad to Damascus,

the road from Tehran, Baghdad, and Damascus where Iran can send money to Hezbollah and the forces of resistance in Lebanon especially.

I mean, even before Iran was a factor, you know, the only major factor. Even back then, people understood there's a, there's

Saddam in the Lebanese civil war, he was backing the Maronites. He wasn't even backing the Palestinians.

You understand? The thing that terrified Israel the most is if Saddam is removed, that way there's an

arms network, either beginning in Russia or Iran, but could be Russia through Iran, Baghdad,

Damascus, to Lebanon.

There you go. That's what they were fucking terrified of.

Yeah, but they're, I mean, you got to imagine they're also terrified of all the enemies that surround their nation.

But Saddam, Saddam went to war with it the main enemies are backed by Iran

Saddam just fired a few

scud missiles whatever

but that was not

the real threat to Israel was coming from the

Palestinian resistance it was coming from the Lebanese resistance and Israel was coming from the Palestinian resistance.

It was coming from the Lebanese resistance,

and it was coming from Syria.

You see,

Iraq is and border Israel.

Jordan does. Egypt does.

They knocked out Egypt. They knocked out Jordan.

No problem. They still have Lebanon, and through the goal end, they still have Syria. Okay? Saddam has beef with Syria. Iran doesn't. If a government friendly to Syria and the forces of Lebanese and Palestinian resistance takes power in Iraq. That's a disaster for

Israel, isn't it?

Yeah, but Syria,

Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran,

like all of these places were destabilized

as a result of 9-11,

which makes it clear that...

Yeah, I mean, yeah, but that's very...

The benefit was for Israel, and Bebe Maniahu said that himself.

That's... It's... The destabilization did help Israel, that's true, but...

Is that a coincidence? That the Iraq War led to destabilization did help Israel, that's true, but... Is that a coincidence?

That the Iraq War led to destabilization that led to ISIS?

Yeah.

To be honest, I don't know if ISIS was planned like a decade before. I don't know. There's really no telling about that.

I mean, there's almost no cases where ISIS has targeted Israel.

I do think the plan was, after toppling Saddam, to leave Iraq in a permanent state of chaos and disarray, probably.

That makes sense.

To me, but that was also... It makes sense

for Israel.

But it also

makes sense for the U.S.'s

ruling class. The Middle East

hates us. We never had enemies. The Middle East hates us.

We never had enemies in the Middle East before Israel became our greatest ally.

Can I ask you a question?

Go for it.

Has the CIA had all been involved in the Middle East?

Yeah, of course.

Before Israel was the hot topic?

Sure.

Like what about Mosadec in Iran?

Do you know who that is?

No, actually.

You don't know about Mosadeek in Iran Honestly

Do you know who the Shah of Iran was?

Yeah, yeah, I know the Shah.

Who appointed him?

Don't know.

You don't know who brought him to power?

No.

It was the U.S. and the British.

Why'd they do that?

Probably to open up trade routes with Iran.

You think they wanted to open up trade routes?

I think Iran was not open to trade.

Is that what you think?

I didn't even know who this guy was. Now you're asking me about him.

Well, because you don't understand the fundamentals of international

geopolitics and the world...

No, you're giving me these tiny nuances, but you're not looking at the big picture.

How the world economic systems that drive geopolitics work, you think it's just Israel.

That's not true.

Israel is part of a, is on the chessboard.

It's a puzzle piece, sure, but it's part of something way bigger than just Israel.

It's about the petro dollar.

You know, it's about the United States

is a global monopoly on finance, right?

It's about the international...

I get it, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're more nuanced on these things,

but it's like...

So you're just saying...

But 9-11 is not the only thing Israel has done.

Like, bombing of the USS Liberty.

Israel has a history.

And when it comes to, like, banking and the hedge fund managers and all that shit,

that she goes back a thousand years.

Hedge fund managers goes back

a thousand years. No, but the

predominance of the Jewish people in

international banking goes back over a thousand years.

Define predominance, you think a majority are Jews?

Because it's not true.

I wouldn't say a majority,

but clearly that's where the power is.

Let's say it's like 20%.

Do you think that's reasonable?

I think it's

all right, sure.

Okay, so is the 80% fine

To you or what?

Yeah, it depends

Are they interested in the country

That you know, that they're a part of or do they have dual interests in a foreign nation?

They have dual interests in a transnational project that circumvents the sovereignty and popular sovereignty of this country, which is exactly what

the Rockefellers, the Vanderbilt's,

America's top 500 families

outlined by the historian

in the 1930s. That was required... You're

talking about, like, international interests,

but the international people

has been doing just that.

The British Empire?

I mean, their

campaign of colonialism doesn't

make them an international people. The fact that

Jews were made a diaspora by Rome.

Okay.

From Cecil Rhodes.

Let me find it.

Do you think Cecil Rose was a Jew?

No.

Okay, well, here's a direct quote from him.

We should not form a secret society but with one object.

The furtherance of the British Empire and the bringing of the whole world under British rule,

the recovery of the United States for making the Anglo-Saxon race but one empire.

So this is what Cecil Rhodes believe.

It's what the Rockefeller's believed. It's what all of the

major monopolists and capitalists in the U.S. believed. They wanted to basically subsume the United

States of America into some kind of unaccountable empire that circumvented all of our institutions of sovereignty.

So that's actually the real history.

Damn, that sounds Jewish.

Well, it wasn't Jewish, actually.

And Jews weren't even really a major part of that at all.

You know, Jews, powerful

capitalist Jews got the Balfour

Declaration from the British Empire.

They got, you know, their slice of the

pie, I guess, the Rothschilds

who are a minority of that ruling

the people. First of all, Rothschild, they're

Jewish, and they were in the British Empire, yeah, but that's that ruling First of all Rosschell They're Jewish And they're

In the British Empire

Yeah

But that's because

They're a diaspora

Amongst the nations

In international people

It's that some Jews

See the British

Have these

Noble houses

And titles

Where they night people

And they give them All these fucking labels and shit.

So there's a few Jews that really got into the good graces of the British oligarchy.

So they anointed them and they gave them their own house and crest and emblem

and they brought them into the house of lords and that was the Rothschilds. So they

were actually allowed to enter this feudal dynastic ruling elite group for whatever reason,

and they were allowed to, you know, they were allowed to join that. But they're not the main force behind it they're

not the main people behind it they're a faction or you don't have a main people you don't

have a main force you're just like them you're just saying the the international banking system

we have to all rise up.

But against who?

We have to rise up against the global institutions of capitalism like the IMF and like the Federal Reserve that control us.

That's who.

We have to rise up against the actual fucking tangible capitalist class.

You don't find it suspicious that there's a severe overrepresentation of Jews in those...

I don't find it...

I don't find overrepresentation relative to population numbers to be politically relevant.

I mean, think about it.

What?

Why is that politically relevant?

Who cares?

Like what, what?

See, like, for example, there's all sorts of weird patterns you can find in the demographics or ethnography patterns or whatever in society.

Like, you know, these Sikhs with turbines own a lot of 7-Elevens.

You're going to fucking lose your mind over it?

It's not a substantive observation.

No,

it is because we're dealing with an international people, a banking

people that have been doing this for a thousand years.

Yeah, but they haven't.

The Rothschilds were a recent thing.

I'm not talking about the Rothschilds.

The usury that Jews in the Middle Ages was doing was called petty usury.

So there was a few Jewish hucksters, and they, you know, they would come and they would

engage in usury, and there was like a local village level type of shit.

But we're not talking about...

You don't think that they picked up maybe a couple tips and tricks over the thousand years?

No, I think the middle...

This is why Engels said anti-Semitism...

I mean, this is a people that hold record for...

Literally, passed down vocally for thousands of years.

They don't forget shit.

Yeah, I get what you're saying,

but the forms of petty medieval hucksterism that some Jews engaged in because they weren't allowed to own land has nothing to do with the complicated nature of modern capitalist finance.

Okay, what do you think about how when Spain expelled the Jews, they entered a golden age, when Britain expelled the Jews in the Magna Carta, they experienced a golden age. How do you expect or explain that stuff? You think the British Golden Age followed Magna Carta? Are you a fucking retard?

Did I fuck that up

magna carda was in 1215

you think the golden age of britain

was after 1215

uh

as a matter of fact

there were prosperous times

in like 13th to 15th century

there were there were there were there were so

prosper yeah you're shifting the goalposts

Britain's golden age

was actually a period of tolerance

toward Jews you fucking idiot

as for the Spanish golden age you're just talking about tolerance toward Jews. You fucking idiot.

As for the Spanish golden age,

you're just talking about the reconquista,

because they didn't just expel the Jews.

They expelled the Muslims.

They expelled everyone who wasn't Christian.

So that was just the reconquista.

Okay.

What's your point?

My point is when you experience a golden age after... Name a single example of a civilization experiencing a golden age because they expelled Jews.

Because Reconquista has nothing to do primarily with Jews.

That was just Reconquista.

But name an example in history where, like,

one of these retarded medieval,

backwater, retarded cultures, as Engels would call them,

did like a pogrom against the Jews

out of some backward

medieval rubbish nonsense

and then it led to a golden age.

Can you name how that happened one time?

I read something about it, but I

forgot it. Yeah, you can't because it just

as Frederick Engels said

it's an example of

a retarded culture a culture that has been

retarded developmentally

stuck in some medieval backwater rubbish

where peasants are fighting with

you know, small-scale Jewish hucksters

and just nonsense, bull rat

Romanian village kind of nonsense.

That has not, you know, it's just a very backward

culture and civilization that

is dealing with that. What are you talking about? Like, Oxford

University existed at the same time that

they were fucking sacrificing people

on the altars in Mexico.

You can't just call that backward. That's basically

like the birthplace of modern

civilization. You of modern civilization.

You think modern civilization

was born in the Middle Ages?

I mean,

it developed there, partly.

It wasn't just like this great

dark ages where nothing good fucking happened.

Modern civilization, okay, first of all, that was China.

That was the Islamic empires.

All right?

That was doing the heavy limping, creating a world market and the Silk Road and all these integrated trade routes, especially the Mongols.

Now, who benefits from that?

The Venetians and the Italians through the Renaissance.

And through them, it trickles down into Europe, into the Protestant Reformation.

And that's the beginning of Europe's road to greatness

you know the industrial revolution and all

whatnot and the the

advanced naval techniques and all this

stuff through Spain and stuff

but before that you're saying the birthplace

of civilization is happening in some saying the birthplace of civilization is happening

in some, not the birthplace,

but it's where it's where a lot of

development occurred, yeah.

No, Shrek's Hut was not

developing a fucking thing, all right?

Nothing was going on in Shrek's

swamp. All right, right. You know who else benefited from nothing was going on in Shrek swamp

you know what else benefited

from the Silk Road and the international

trade because Israel is located

basically at the center of Europe, Africa

and Asia and so

that's where international trade

essentially matured.

But Israel didn't exist during the Mongol Silk Road. What the fuck?

You're tripping me up with your...

Ah, what your stupid community

why do you guys call me low IQ

and so stupid all the time

you always calling me like stupid

what is this

bro i'm an engineer i don't do this shit

what is this i'm a tech i'm a stem guy

okay i don't do this.

But, uh...

This is crazy.

How old are you?

I'd rather not say, but, uh...

Are you in high school?

But, well, hold on, hold on.

I don't know exactly when, you know, obviously modern day Israel didn't exist at that time.

But Israel, what we call Israel now, what is at the center of Africa, Europe, and in Asia.

And so they did practice

you know essentially international trading

when

long as time ago

no they didn't Israel didn't exist until

1948

I'm saying

not the modern nation of Israel

but you're saying

Bronze Age Israel or Iron Age

Israel? Yeah

Yeah Uh

No after that

If you're a Christian

Those were the good guys, right?

Or we don't like them anymore

And we side with the pagans now

No dude that's like

two black and white.

Well, the Iron Age Jews are like

the good guys in the Bible, right? Or unless

you're like a pagan.

What are you talking about?

If you're a Christian, then like

you're against Moses and all of like the biblical prophets and stuff?

No, I'm saying that's where like this subsect of like Jewish bankery.

Okay. No. No. What do you mean this bankery? That's where the debt jubilees were happening. Like every 50 years, they'd cancel everyone's debt. What do you mean this bankery? That's where the debt jubilees were happening.

Like every 50 years, they'd cancel everyone's debt.

What are you talking about?

It was the Greeks that brought you...

This is how stupid you are.

You don't even know anything about history.

It was the Greeks who invented usury.

Every Semitic civilization,

even if they had a practice of issuing interest-bearing debts,

there was always a cyclical and periodic practice

of the cancellation of debt, which meant there was never an oligarchy that rose based on usury, and there was always a strong king and emperor that was always in control that made sure that the interest of the people was always supreme

you know working on irrigation and public works and stuff but then the greeks come along the

gay reeks sorry if you're greek i don't mean to offend you but the greeks come along

and they basically because they were barbaric and they were getting limited exposure to these Bronze Age Mesopotamian practices,

they started issuing interest-bearing debts without any of the debt cancellation.

And they were already beginning from pirates that were just looting everyone so

they were already of low report all right you you keep getting me on these gotches the greeks

institutionalized usury right they institutionalize usury and when alexander the great empire conquers the levant and uh you know

judea becomes hellenized that's when the biblical tradition of the debt jubilee stops happening

that's when the practice

of usury really starts to take hold

especially under the Roman Empire

That's cool. You can say

the Greeks invented usury

but we both know who practiced it the most

throughout history and that's how they

acquired their reputation. It doesn't just come out of nowhere. These stereotypes don't you...

Hop into thin air. The usury has been propelled into the world historical significance it has today by the Anglo-Saxons. There's absolutely no debate about that

from any credible or reputable historian or anyone who just knows anything about history.

Anglo-Saxon mercantilism is the basis of usury becoming the ruler of the world.

The petty huckster, see, this is, you know, you're a white nationalist, but you don't read Shakespeare, do you?

No. Have you read The Mer, do you? No.

Have you read The Merchant of Venice?

No.

Well, usury in Shakespearean, England, started to become so common, and it started to become existentially and metaphysically, you know, troubling, you know, on a literary level, spiritual level.

And this had a lot to do with the Protestant Reformation and the kind of breaking with the Catholic Church.

And in one of Shakespeare's plays, which is called The Merchant of Venice, they actually have a character who's a Jew named Shylock, who they are symbolizing as the usurious figure

of usury, because of the medieval, petty usury and hucksterism that Jews were

engaged in in the feudal times

but that was a symbol and the reason for that is because

in England where there were little to know Jews at the time

and the ones that were were basically of no significance, usury started to actually take hold as like the main economic practice that started to dominate, you know, English society. And that was being addressed and resolved and related to and articulated through, in part, Shakespeare's play, The Merchant of Venice. So the English were dabbling in this problem of usury, metaphysically and existentially, you know, and there was no need for them to say, oh, this is just the Jews doing this, because they were doing it themselves. And they brought it to such heights and such a degree of infamy and significance that no other civilization on planet

earth has ever had. So you're saying that the British blamed the Jews on usury?

No, they didn't. They used Shylock because he was because Shylock

no no not a

scapegoat as a symbol

it's just a symbolic

literary

do you don't find it weird

that Shakespeare

used a Jew as a symbol

of usur

you should actually

read the play

I'll read it

but do you think

that's weird

no it's not weird because because in the Middle Ages,

the Jews were known to engage in petty kinds of,

you know, petty merchant huckstering, small-scale kind of stuff.

So these Jews had a reputation for usury,

and you just don't think that's weird

petty, petty, oh it was just petty, okay. Yes, absolutely.

Petty Usory did not get institutionalized

into the mainstream until the Gentiles started doing it.

Oh, you're a Gentile.

Or, and also, by the way, you don't want to get into this.

Jews were engaged in petty usury, like street-level usury.

Some of them were.

But on an institutional level, even before Shakespeare in England

and the Protestant Reformation,

you have the Catholic Church doing it.

You have the various different religious orders

under the Catholic Church,

like the Knights Templars

and all these other kinds of fucking people,

you know, doing it.

Can really get into the history there.

So there's other people doing it.

That institutionalized it.

Yeah, it was institutionalized.

So the usury the Knights Templar were engaged in.

That's not on the level of Shylock, the merchant of Venice. But Shakespeare, he's writing the merchant of Venice, not because he's saying the Jews are engaging in too much usury, but he's talking about how English society is starting to tolerate usury. Okay.

And he's, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, you can read Shakespeare's play, and you're almost meant to be sympathetic with

Shylock who technically is correct

in the play

that's why I say you should read it

because it was a lit on a literary level

it was a way for them to deal

existentially with the fact that

they were developing usury

and they were starting to engage in the

practice. A Jewish

practice.

Yeah,

theologically, you could argue that

and that's what the theme of

the play was kind of is basically saying are we just

engaging in a Jewish practice is there something about this that betrays are you don't you don't

find that weird you don't find they're overrepresented in banking you don't find it weird that

they're hey you're going to benefit from 9-11. I'm trying to educate you.

I'm trying to educate you.

Yeah, you're in my mystery, but...

All right, all right. Do I have to meet you?

I'm trying to educate you.

But that's not the conclusion they came to. They didn't come to the conclusion that it was a Jewish practice. That's what you're missing. They came to the conclusion that this was a practice compatible with their own metaphysical outlook on the nature of the, you know, of humanity and the universe

and the world. So,

you can't say this is a Jewish practice.

I'm trying

to explain to you how even in the backward

Middle Ages where, you know,

it's like Shrek, where you have,

you know, yeah, these like medieval rubbish of petty hucksterism being associated with Jews. And yeah, that was a real thing in the Middle Ages. But that's, that was the petty hucksterism. That was the petty usury.

You understand?

Institutionalized usury was not in the hands of the Jews in the Middle Ages.

I hear you.

And all this stuff about the Jews being kicked out of 109 countries

all of these

first of all

the Jews got in trouble

in the Bronze Age and the Iron Age for defending the

word of God

okay so if you're going to count that into the

109 countries you're a fucking pagan if you're going to count that into the 109 countries, you're a fucking pagan.

If you're going to count Roman persecution of Jews, you're a fucking pagan.

The Jews were defending the sanctity of God's word against the butt-fucking sodomizing pedophile Romans so you want to defend that go ahead you're saying that they were taken out of a hundred nine countries because they were defending in the in the christian world the reason there was all of these expulsions of Jews from France and Britain and Spain and whatever, is because there was no tolerance of any religious, there was no religious tolerance at all. Do you know who the Cathars were?

Somewhat. Who were they?

I forget.

What happened to the Cathars?

Were they expelled? No, they were all killed.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

They were heretics. They were a sect of Christianity

that were all killed.

What happened after the Protestant Reformation?

Was it just like peaceful? Was it tolerance?

What happened?

Uh, no, it was violent.

Were there wars of religion over these differences?

Yeah.

Can you name a single Middle Ages Christian country that tolerated Muslims

Were there any Muslims?

Before we talk about

Were these Muslims being expelled, were they ever let in?

Well, I know there are Muslims in Spain.

Yeah, they were all kicked out, right?

And they weren't let in a Christian kingdom.

They conquered Spain, and then they were driven out, right?

Yeah.

Okay.

So there's something interesting going on here, isn't there?

Right?

Which is, and this is what's ironic, within West Christianity, within West christian civilization the only religious other that was ever

tolerated were the jews no one else was tolerated no cathars no other Christians, only Jews, the only religious other that

was acknowledged and tolerated were the Jews. Not fully tolerated. They're doing pogroms

all the time and kicking them out and whatever. But imagine that. They were the only ones that were ever even tolerated to have a chance to be expelled in the first place. So when you say that they're all being expelled because they're such troublemakers and whatever, well, no, they're being expelled because they're barely being tolerated in the first place because there's no other religious others and groups that they were tolerating in the first place.

Gotcha.

All right, man, I got to brush up on my history.

You really do.

You really do.

And I want Ruyper's to understand when you call Haas stupid and illiterate, I think you have a different definition of what intelligence is, because for you, intelligence is the capacity to fall in line in a gay, retarded form of group think rather than the capacity to actually reason through

facts based on a sufficient level of knowledge acquired on the facts. And I think these are

different things. You think that someone is intelligent because they know how to signal in the right directions, you know, to conform to whatever retarded fucking nonsense is being propelled into popularity, rather than actually being able to render differences within reality

and their relations thereof intelligible

to the mind by the intellect.

Very different things going on, aren't they?

So let's bring up a guy named E

who's got a Roman,

I think that's a roman roman uh profile picture of uh petterastry and sodomy what's going to give me one second i'm going to mute the uh i'm going to mute your stream here yeah

how are you how are you doing?

Well, what do you want?

Well, I was, I just wrote down a couple of points that you were debating with the other guy, and I would like to discuss those. I think you're wrong on some of those points.

Go ahead.

All right, so for starters, I mean, I guess this is a more broad one related to your whole

interpretation of Anglo-Saxon. I don't know if you would even call it a civilization, but,

I mean, I don't think that your Anglophobia here is really justified. In fact, I would argue

it's quite the opposite, right? I mean, Anglo-Saxon civilization, the way that we know it today, is actually the pinnacle of humanity to some extent.

So you're basically gibbering about a value judgment and not addressing the facts of what I said.

That's really interesting.

No, I mean, I have multiple different topics here that we can discuss.

Another example is you mentioned the Greeks being barbaric.

I don't think that is the case whatsoever.

Or even the...

Why not?

Why not?

I mean, the Greeks, we have derived so much knowledge.

They contributed so much knowledge to the human pool of knowledge.

Hold on.

You mean knowledge that was stolen from Egyptgypt and persia and mesopotamia

do you even know anything you know like all the all the main greek pre-socratic

oh geez were like phoenicians what are you even talking about? They were barbarians.

No, no, no, no, absolutely not.

Have you read Homer's poems?

They were pirates.

They were barbarians.

Piracy was very common, but it is in...

Egypt and Mesopotamia were developing civilizations for thousands of years.

Thousands of years.

And in their own right, and in their own right, they were also great, right?

But I don't think you can come to this spread.

And Pythagoras and the ancient Greeks concentrated all

of the wisdom and knowledge

accumulated by these civilizations

and tried to distill

out of them a general conclusion, sure,

but it was just stolen.

I just think that

Heraclitus is the beginning of Greek philosophy as Heraclitus, and the whole Western

principle of Logos.

It was stolen from Dorasur.

I mean, how can you, how can you say this?

I mean, how can you say that...

The only thing we can credit...

Let me go. Let me just go. Just please. How can you say that... The only thing we can credit... Wait, let me go.

Let me just go.

Just please.

How can you say that the Greeks did not contribute immense value to the development of, I guess you could say, Western or whatever civilization?

Obviously, they did.

These developments in politics, right?

Developments in philosophy, right, in art.

All of this was developed, not all of it.

Don't get me wrong.

What do you think those achievements were?

Can you name them?

What do you mean?

What do I think those achievements were?

I know you like to refer to them for aesthetic reasons, but can you actually name them?

Well, obviously, I mean,

many of our conceptions of modern democracy

stem from Athens, do they not?

That is just one example.

What aspect of modern democracy

besides the name comes from Athens?

Can you explain?

I don't think there's anything about the modern.

Democratic participation.

I mean, the hegemony, right, our study of international policy.

Wait, wait, okay, because I can point to you examples of anthropologists finding that in 3,500 BC in Mesopotamian

temple

civilizations, temple structures,

you have forms of participatory

popular rule there.

So if you're just talking about the name,

the etymology of democracy comes from...

But it is not just...

So you see, that's... So you have

a point to some extent, but just because

there were other examples, right, that developed

independently, or even if the Greeks drew

upon them... Thousands of years before.

Yes, that doesn't mean, that doesn't mean that

the current interpretation of democracy isn't... doesn't mean that doesn't mean that the current interpretation of democracy isn't doesn't have a continuum.

What is the similarity between the current interpretation of democracy and the one that existed in ancient Greece?

Tell me the similarity.

I mean, obviously, I mean, you have, I mean, the very idea, right, that the citizens of a nation, right, or a polis, I guess you could say back then, are, you know, engaging in the Agora, right?

In the public space, right?

You're just gibbering and using fucking terms like Agora.

Can you concretely...

How can you not see this?

I mean, the very...

I guess, I guess Rome is a different

civilization.

There is nothing in common

between the modern conception

of democracy and the Greek...

You think, say, the founding fathers

of the United States took no inspiration from the classicals, from the classical peoples. Of course they did.

It was an ideological movement called neoclassism, which believed it was returning to the pure origins of, you know, the West and of the foundation of civilization itself, going back to the Greeks. So it was a retro kind of movement that was basically thinking that it was returning to the golden age of ancient Greece, which was a myth that they constructed at that time itself.

So they were drawing so much quote unquote inspiration from ancient Greece and ancient Rome, primarily as a source of legitimating their rebellion and insurrection against traditionally

established sovereign authorities. Because they didn't have a historical legitimation to actually

rebel and overthrow, you know, this traditional form of political authority that had existed for

centuries and centuries, they took their legitimacy in some mythologized past of ancient

Rome and ancient Greece to basically justify why these revolutions were historically legitimate. So that

was in part, and also

the rejection of Christianity

and the skepticism and the

even atheism of the European

Enlightenment harkened back to

the ancient Greeks and to the Romans

as a way to justify the historically grounded

and traditionalist kind of credibility

of the rejection of Christianity.

By pointing out all these...

100%, but even those things were effectively manifested. now we exist in these secular governments right you can see that you know you say that you say that our current society doesn't have these connections but you're very clearly showing me they were able they were able to do the ancient the ancient greece that inspired the western

enlightenment was a myth it wasn't actual ancient greece it was a mythologilized projection of ancient

greece it wasn't actually a real thing though i don't i don't i mean don't see how that, I don't see how that's the case.

I mean, even governmental institutions were inspired by, by those of the classical ages.

Is that not true?

No, no.

They were taken, the names were taken from readings and interpretations

of classical institutions sure names were taken in large part but they weren't directly one for

one actually like literally directly imported or inspired from them as they actually existed back then there were modern i just i just don't think that's true i mean you look at you look at um you look at systems of organization right you look at you look at um like the let's just look very simply, right, at the branches

of government, right? These were taken, right? The U.S. itself was modeled of the Roman

Republic, right? The founder said, we have a historical example of a republic that... What does the U.S.

have in common with the roman republic besides having an institution

called the senate it of course it has much more than that i mean the very idea the very idea

that there is this popular appointment of uh the executive right by the people right the very i mean institutions like the executive right by the people, right?

I mean, institutions like the treasury, right?

You think the Roman people elected the executive authority?

The people is in the peasants?

No, of course not.

So what are we talking about?

Well, because even when the United States started, right, the people that could vote were like,

what, like 2% of the population, right?

Like landowning whites, right?

Christian whites.

It is a, it is, I'm not saying, of course, that the modern US is a copy of the republic,

but there is

clearly a line, right? There is clearly

a canon, a connection that

exists between these two.

The canon is just the etymological

use of words and names, but there's no

direct lineage connecting them.

I mean, I just, I just, I mean, even, even if, even if, even if, even if, even if, even if it were only the names, right?

Or, or say the names and a bit of other things.

So the only thing we could credit, the only real thing we could credit ancient Greece with, exceptionally speaking, is the ability for the content of its thinkers to have survived the historical records better than anyone who came before.

That's what we could credit them with.

A lot of that has to do with the fact that it was the West itself, you know, which begins modernity as we know it and begins the you know process of of

fixating upon the past and on history to the extent that it did you know modernity itself

and that is why there is the strongest emphasis on ancient Greece that we have.

But if we had the same degree of proximity to, you know, ancient Egypt or Mesopotamia,

in terms of how much we attempted to focus on it.

I mean, these things simply didn't survive.

Yeah, you're right.

You're right.

What you said is true, but, you know, say that modern society or whatever had emerged in North Africa, right?

So they're closer to Egypt, right?

And they had these records still exist, right?

Of ancient the Egyptianist society.

It is very clear that you would have resulted

with a very different type of Republican model.

It is very clear that...

Of course you would.

I mean, the types of democracy

that existed elsewhere, not even just democracy, the types of democracy that existed elsewhere, not even

just democracy, the types of politics that

existed elsewhere, right?

We're reflected in different ways. We look at China,

for instance, right? We look at China with the

I guess the mandate of heaven, right?

Or the synosphere kind of cultural area, right?

And the societies that drew upon China

for cultural inspiration, like Korea, right, like Japan,

like I guess Vietnam to some extent, from my understanding,

they drew drastically different conclusions, right?

Because the society that contributes to political development, to artistic development,

the cultural transformation is going to have itself reflected, right?

Yeah, but China is actually a geographic reality, and it's a land empire with a real concrete continuity of historical existence.

You can't say that for Greece at all.

You can't say Greece bears the same relationship to Western civilizations.

I mean, I agree. bears the same relationship to western civilizations i i i i agree i mean i i do agree that china has has had a more his a more uh grounded approach in that regard right has existed for for so many men is that china's actually a real

civilization no oh well that's something I saw your stream the other day, and that's something I strongly disagree with.

I mean, the very notion, right, and I was arguing with some people in your chat, the very notion that Western civilization isn't real or even if I can't delimited exactly, right, it isn't a thing, right?

It very certainly is a thing, right? Even if it's not the line from Greece to, you know, modern, say, the United States isn't that easily visible, right?

There very clearly is a

civilizational entity that exists

here.

There's a civilization

that's centered in France and Germany.

I agree.

It's not in the U.S. though.

Well, I mean,

I guess that would, I guess that you would have

to, it would depend, but I do believe that

it is very clear to me that the

Anglo-Sphere, or like the

English-speaking world, is a

civilization in its own right. It is, in fact,

as I mentioned earlier, the pinnacle civilization own right. It is, in fact, as I mentioned earlier,

the pinnacle civilization of humanity.

That is very clear.

It is the metropole of the world.

Yeah, you can keep glazing the global home or whatever.

I don't give a fuck.

But the facts of the matter stand that English civilization historically was to the extent that it was peripheral with regard to France.

And France from Rome.

Okay.

That's the historical relationship.

As for English civilization itself, that was always an aspiration. The aspiration for actually building an English civilization was there. You saw it in Shakespeare in England. You know, you saw it throughout England's literary history itself.

You saw it in the English Civil War.

So the aspiration was always there,

but it was never quite accomplished.

There was always this kind of Norman aristocracy

and this underclass of like English,

you know,

oy, mate,

kind of people who were like considered an underclass who were more indigenous.

I'm not against those people, by the way.

I'm just explaining like the relationship.

How does that, I don't see how that really takes away from it being a civilization in

its own right, right? I mean, even...

The British Empire was not a civilization. It was the opposite of a civilization.

It was a destructive and liquidationist

force which destroyed civilizations

on a global

I mean the British Empire

if you look at the map

of the British Empire

say I wouldn't say that

you know Egypt being under

English control

of course I wouldn't say

that Egypt was part

of English civilization

British Empire was one

you look at this Anglo you you look at this Anglo civilization, right?

Anglo-Saxon civilization.

You're looking at, you look at Anglo-America, right?

You're looking at Great Britain.

Today, this British, right, or this English civilization is centered, right?

In North America.

I should Britain take credit for America?

I don't get that.

It is not taking credit for America.

Of course not.

The Americans developed this nation themselves.

America, Americans are an extension.

America didn't want to be in the British Empire.

That's why they broke with it.

Yes, obviously, from a political in a jurisdiction point of view, 100%.

No, from a civilizational perspective, it is.

Very clearly it is.

No, the it is true the

Americans were looking westward to build

a totally new civilization

and wanted to turn their back

If that were true

If that were true then why would the founders

have looked eastward

Towards Europe for these artistic

movements for these philosophical movements for the roman

republic as we were discussing earlier right for athens as well i already told you i already told

you because they needed to legitimize their overthrow of the europe that then existing european

ancient regime and justify it and have some historical backing for it.

But even the founding fathers drew inspiration. I mean, look at the names of the states in America

and the cities and what they're named off. You know, there's a reason why the founders tried

even to draw inspiration from like the indigenous americans because they wanted to

distinctly emphasize a distinct american identity in contrast to europe i mean i I don't think that's true.

Obviously, there was obviously the indigenous peoples contributed great news.

Well, compare Australia to America.

Australia's major cities, what are they? Sydney and all this nonsense.

Yeah, but the reason for that is because the average, Aboriginal people were,

Aboriginal people were much less a number

and were also wiped out, right?

But then look at the U.S. cities and look at the cities

in the U.S. in California. You have Eureka,

right? You have Olympia in Seattle.

You have Indianapolisapolis right you have

minneapolis it is very clear that there is a civilizational link you also you also have

literally a city for every middle eastern city memphis kairo you... Yes, yes, because Egypt was also an inspiration for the founders in some regard, yes.

Okay, so all that you're telling me is the founders were looking toward these ancient civilizations

because they wanted to break with the European status quo.

How is that breaking with the European status quo?

Of anything, that is a continuation, in my opinion.

How?

I mean, if you're naming cities, if you're naming cities,

Paulus, right, Rome, if you're building your institution.

But they wanted to leave Europe.

They wanted to leave Europe.

Politically, politically, they didn't want to be governed by a foreign entity.

I understand that.

But from a civilizational perspective,

they very much viewed themselves, right?

In this light as a new realm, right? They viewed themselves, right? In this, in this light as a new realm.

They viewed themselves as the inheritors of objective, because they believe civilization

was something objective.

So they obviously are giving the Greeks and the Romans their proper due.

I'm not denying that.

But they wanted to build

a new type of civilization that was

distinctly American here.

I'm not going to deny that last part

because there is a lot of truth to that. But

going back to my underlying point, I think

that you can very easily characterize your average American today as being part of this broader Anglo society, not just your American, by the way, Canadian, right, a British person, right? It is very clear that these cultural connections and not just cultural, right, geopolit are there as well right there is trust between these nations for cultural affinity right uh protestantism right great great uh you know influence in in the development of the nation um it is very clear that these links still exist.

It's so stupid.

It's like you're talking about the way U.S.

sovereignty was overthrown in favor of the international capitalist class

centered in the city of London and Wall Street.

And they're like, this is proof of like an organic civilizational tie between the people. And it's like, no, it's not. The American people never signed up for like the Five Eyes or the CIA and the OSS and the infiltration. And Cecil Rose planned for a secret society to reintegrate America back into the Anglo-American Empire project.

It had nothing to do with a, you know, grassroots bottom-up process.

I agree we share the same language.

I agree that, you know, because we share that language, that British and Americans can get along and we can consume each other's media and it's fine. We don't hate each other. But the idea that we all belong to an Anglo-American, you know, a so-called Anglo sphere is nonsense. I mean, culturally speaking,

this is a very distinct country,

very distinct country.

So this country is something very special, right? That it is kind of this melting

pot, you could say. No, it's not just a melting

pot. America is something

distinct.

It's America. Well,

yes, it is America. It is obviously something different, right? But even in this own regard, right?

No, we are not empiricists.

We are pragmatists.

Look, I mentioned earlier

how this, in this Anglo society, right? In this Anglo society, right? I want you to read some books. I want you to read Henry David Thoreau. I want you to read the Transcendentalist and the Pragmatist. I want you to read America's literary icons and titans. And I want,

and because you'll,

you'll derive an understanding of what makes us different if you do that, right?

Anyway,

what else did you want to say?

Okay,

well,

look,

we can leave that there,

but I completely disagree.

But here's another, here's another one that another one that I took from you is you mentioned that a modern civilization was born with the societies of the Silk Road, yes, and that they are the ones, you know, Islamic or or.

Yeah, they created the world economy I completely

I completely disagree with that world of course they so

here's my point obviously they contributed to that and

and with the Silk Road trade existed before the Silk Road

so I'm not I'm not saying that uh I'm Road. So I'm not

saying that, I'm not saying that, that's not my argument. My argument

is that the current,

the current form of

trade, right, the current arrangements of trade

that we have are very much more characterized

by those created by the Europeans, right? You're

talking about an emphasis in maritime trade, right? Even these societies that you refer to, right,

like China engage in this immensely, right? Through oceanic highways. No, it's actually qualitatively different

and I can explain why

the Atlantisist form of mercantilism

you're talking about

is based on the imposition

of unilateral trade agreements

by one empire using its overwhelming force

to basically subjugate all these peoples to enter into

you know unequal trade agreements and or at least trade agreements exclusively one side and on one person's terms that has culminated into the IMF today so I I agree that's still there. But that's not the same as world trade. World trade is actual trade between different authorities and sovereign powers that enter into agreements on a bilateral basis, not a unilateral one.

And China, even though it's using...

How do we not see this today? Like when the U.S. enters into commercial relations with China, how is this not that same thing, right?

The U.S. enters into commercial relations with China and is still trying to fucking brawl beat China into a...

It just doesn't have the leverage that it wants to.

But you don't think that this is something so here's

the U.S. doesn't have enough leverage. That's the issue.

If they have the leverage, they'll fucking bully everyone into

accepting IMF debt slavery. I don't agree

with this perspective that... Well, you should.

Because anyone who tries to resist

the interests of the

World Bank and the IMF

and the international capitalist class

upheld by the U.S. anytime a leader

comes to power and tries to set up

something independent from all that,

they call them a communist or

they call them a fucking human rights abuser after the Sovietviet union fell that's what they did they go in and they fucking overthrow him that's what they always do okay you want to disagree with that or what okay well you know here's here's another thing that is related to this is why do you assume that these societies

like China are so benevolent, right?

Oh, obviously China wouldn't exploit

all of these or obviously

I don't, you know, I don't know why you're putting words

in my mouth. We didn't say benevolent.

We said,

we said basing themselves

their trade agreements

being bilateral, not unilateral.

So I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

Why would any

society in the position of hegemony

not attempt the same exact thing that the current

hegemony in your world, same exact thing that the current hegemony in your, in your

world, in your idea, tries to, tries to pursue. Of course they would. Because the Anglo-Saxon

hegemony, because the Anglo-Saxon hegemony is self-destructive, and it devastates not just the

cultures of the world, but the culture and civilization of the host countries themselves.

China doesn't want to be like Victorian England because Victorian England was a shithole for the British people.

It was rife with class struggles, the whole

context of communism in part.

It doesn't want to be like America because it doesn't

want its fucking citizens to die an overdose

on fentanyl and have only

fans and fucking nonsense run rampant.

So China doesn't want to be

like Britain and America.

Why would they?

No, but no one wants that.

And do you think that even the leaders of our nations want their people to be

overdosing?

No, they can't do it to some extent.

It is an inevitable, it is an inevitable consequence

of being a unilateral

hegemon. Because by being a unilateral

hegemon, you are not

focusing enough resources on

self-governance. The reason

bilateral relations are

chosen by China, it doesn't have to be benevolent.

They just have to say we want to focus more on self-governance and our own sovereignty.

And to the extent that we enter into relations with other countries, we don't have the resources to govern them.

We don't have the ability to control the world.

We are focusing too much on controlling ourselves.

I just think that you're fundamentally, this is kind of like an isolationist position I'm hearing here.

The truth is that the U.S. very well could.

And this is an argument that I hear from pro-Russia people and so on, right?

It said, oh, we're giving so much money to Ukraine and to Israel and whatever, so much so that we can't feed our own citizens, right?

That is obviously not true.

The amount of money that we are dedicating to these countries is absolutely

marginal in the grand scheme of things.

We are investing so much more money

here domestically already.

But if there was ever a proposal to invest

in any kind of project in this

country for the same amount of money,

it wouldn't get passed in Congress.

So shut the fuck up.

Honestly.

So you were already wrong, right?

This has already happened in the past many times before.

How much would it, how much money would it take?

How much would it take to build high speed rail in America?

Probably like a trillion dollars.

One trillion?

Probably.

So we sent more than one-tenth of that to foreign countries.

How do you feel about that?

One-tenth, yeah yeah that's not that much i beg to

fucking differ that's the thing i beg to fucking differ 100 so one tenth of that i mean obviously i would

love to have high speed rail in this country don't wrong, right? And if we hypothetically had to cut down on our foreign expenditures to some extent, I'm willing to do that. Well, well, well, and it's also symbolic. It's about where our priorities are. We are so willing to funnel resources away, however little, according to you. I doubt that. I mean, we have sent a lot over there. Okay. It's a lot. It's not a little. But even if it were a little, it's just the point. The point is we are focused over there instead of here. Okay. It's clear. Our priorities are not straight. I mean, every time we want to do something here, it always gets blocked in Congress. It always gets stopped. I mean, it's ridiculous. But I would say that as much.

How much is student loan debt in this country?

How much is student loan debt worth?

I couldn't tell you how much.

Can you look it up?

Yeah, here.

It is approximately 1.75 trillion all student loan debt uh as of the first quarter of 2024 the total student debt loan debt in the United States was approximately $1.75 trillion.

Why couldn't we cancel at least 15% of that with this money we sent to right?

So you're not wrong, right? That would be something good to do. Don't get me wrong but i don't see that is it the fact that we're funding ukraine or these foreign countries in in something in in an

international we have not even canceled any of it we're not even canceling any of it we're not

even focusing on that is not sure sure but that is not a problem of our foreign actions.

It is a problem or a foreign policy.

It is a problem that we have way too much privatization in this country, that private interest are too much.

All right, so you're going to gibber about all this systemic stuff, but when it comes to fucking giving Ukraine 500 billion, here's a check, 500 billion right away.

No need to gibber.

I don't buy any of this, all right?

Anything else?

No, so two things here.

I mean, so two things here.

For one is 500 billion over the course of many years. And second of all, you can't assume that we're not benefiting from this. Like, right, this very notion that we're not benefiting. How are Americans benefiting? Concretely. Go ahead. The U.S. benefits. No, no, Americans. don't tell me the u.s because that can mean a lot of

things americans american citizens right that are in a covenant with the united states right they are in

a relationship with the state they benefit they shut the fuck up, bro. I don't

want to hear this nonsense, covenant nonsense.

How do Americans benefit? Go ahead.

I mean, you think that

you think that America, you think that

he said a covenant. What is

this nonsense?

Are you like a car salesman?

How do Americans benefit?

I literally am telling you.

So Americans benefit, right?

Because Americans benefit from their country having power over others, right?

How do we benefit from sending money to Ukraine?

Go ahead.

Don't use an abstraction.

We put one of our biggest adversaries in the hole, right?

Which is what happened.

How does harming Russia help us?

How does it?

Because it reinforces our hegemony, right?

And our hegemony, no, no, but concretely.

Yes, yes.

Come to get to them.

Yeah, I'm going to get there.

Yes, I'm going to get there, right?

No, no, no, right now.

Americans benefit, Americans benefit, for instance, from their currency being the world's reserve currency, right? Americans benefit, for instance, from their currency being the World Reserve currency, right? Americans benefit, right, from their country receiving...

All right, let me ask you a question. I'll just stop you right there because you're talking a lot. I'll just stop you right there, all right? If you think that Americans benefit from the dollar is the world reserve currency, then the worst thing we could do.

The worst thing we could do is antagonize Russia in the way we did.

Because what we have done is accelerate de-dollarization in a span of time that would have never

been as condensed as it otherwise would have russia was using the dollar before we fucked with them

they were using our dollars they were, they were participating and reinforcing our dollar

hegemony. And we fuck that up. Even if I conceded to you that dollar hegemony is in our interest,

which in the long term I don't think it is, but even if I conceded that to you, your argument is

fucking retarded. Okay? No, no, but

antagonizing Russia doesn't help

us. The only reason Russia

has a problem with dollar hegemony

is because of the sanctions that we

use that are purely for political

reasons. You're speaking of something

that is kind of tangential to the point that you can argue, right?

You can argue that antagonizing Russia to this extent was a geopolitical blunder, right?

Or sanctioning them was a blunder.

You can say that if you want to.

Are you a lawyer?

Are you a lawyer?

What are you?

Like, this is like some shit. Like, if a lawyer was in court, he has to come up with shit on the fly and he like fucks up. And then he has to like, okay, okay, you could say that like, bro. How old are you? How is that even relevant?

Are you in law school?

Are you in law school?

I'm in liberal arts, not in law school.

Okay, this might be racist, but my chat is wondering, are you Jewish?

Yeah, no.

I'm not Jewish. You fucking suck. If you were Jewish, I would have liked you, no. I'm not Jewish.

You fucking suck. If you were Jewish, I would

have liked you, but you fucking suck. You're just a

fucking loser.

There's no charm to any of this.

Because it's like, you're not even like Jewish.

You're not even like a Jewish lawyer or anything.

You're just a kind of fucking loser.

So true, so true. No, no, no.

But jokes aside here.

So are you a Nick Fuentes fan?

No, no, no. I'm not, I'm not

a conservative, much less a reactionary.

Wow. So you're actually one of those like Reddit

R slash neoliberal people.

I wouldn't exactly call myself a neoliberal.

I mean, there are instances if we're speaking of like Latin American.

I mean, I guess neoliberal economics.

I mean, I wouldn't really characterize myself under that umbrella.

But in any case, I mean, the U.S.

Your whole ideology is just like, like zero drip, zero aura, condensed.

It's just like totally...

Why even...

Why do you even wake up in the morning of this is what you believe?

Like, I'd literally rather...

I mean, it's actually quite the opposite.

I just think I have a much more realistic world view like i could understand

why somebody has is so like has such a bankrupt soul that they just become a bap guy who like

believes in like you know like like cannibalism basically because at least that's exciting

but like what do you believe in nothing

of course I believe in stuff

you just wake up

you just wake up

just because I'm not like bad shit insane

right just because I don't want like some workers

you just wake up every day

you turn on CNN and you stretch.

You're like, ah, just the other day.

You doing the same shit, the same thing.

It's like, bro.

Do you know how normal people operate or is that just like, that's like how normal people are?

Yeah, there's normal.

And then there's Patrick Bateman who's sitting here like,

unironically parent, like an NPC like a bot.

Are you like the Patrick Bateman, like revolutionary larpers, some shit?

Like, no, you're the Patrick Bateman.

Oh, right. You're the extent to which you are like have drank the

kool-aid of the blue pill or whatever is extremely uncanny i i i just completely disagree i mean i'm just

i i is this russia? Are you Russia defender?

A Russia defender? I am not a Russia defender. No, is that, is this him guys?

I, I, I don't know what you're talking about.

But in any case, I mean, I just fundamentally disagree with your point that, in fact, I consider it kind of a usurpation, right?

I think that you're kind of, I guess not doing this willingly rather consciously, but the ideology that you

promote, right, is an ideology that

seeks to undermine the very interest

of the people that you're advocating for, right?

Why?

You are, imagine,

like, imagine, like,

you are a, um, so you're an American, right, but you want to lose in like all of these conflicts, right? You're an American, right? But you want their government to come crumbling down, right? We have to support these institutions, right? We have to support our country, right? That is what we must do, right?

Yeah, but I'm operating under the premise. We're all not winning, are we not? Well, no, I'm operating

under the premise. We're under an occupation government and we have no popular sovereignty. So

theoretically, if my goal is to remove the occupation, I want the occupation

government to lose. I mean, yeah, I'm well aware that's your belief. I think that's just

fundamentally wrong, though, and kind of cucked. Well, I think we've lost popular sovereignty.

I just don't think that's a sovereignty i just don't think that's i just don't think that's uh that's the case i mean just because our current administration isn't ideal

doesn't mean that there is all right is our government in debt to the private sector? Yes.

Is it in debt to private banks?

Yeah.

And?

Are those banks accountable to we the people?

No.

So who controls our government?

What's that?

So who gets to control

like government policy and leverage

everything the government does

because the government has to pay back these debts?

Yeah, but a government, but a government, like,

so you, you're assuming

under this assumption, right, that even

elections are like a fraud right

that yeah they are every election in the u.s is a fraud well obviously they are not right that

yeah they are they're all fake they're all fake and rigged every single one obviously obviously not right

but obviously they are they're clearly are they're all fake no i mean

you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're far too radical right you have to

you have to you have to ground in in real if i if i ran for election i wouldn't stand a chance

because i don't have any of these banks yes yeah you wouldn't stand a chance i I don't have any of these banks. Yeah, you wouldn't stand a chance. I agree. Right. People don't want to go.

But if randomly one of these bankers woke up and scratched their ass in such a way that inspired

them to support me, I would be president. I just, I mean, no, you would still not be president.

If one of the banksters decided to wake up on the wrong side of the bed and give me a check of $500 million, I could easily, like, be a really serious contestant in the election.

I mean, wealth, Wealth is very important.

No, it's like the only thing that matters, basically.

I would not say it's the only thing that matters.

Yeah, even Donald Trump had to like rely on like all this money he had because he's like a rich guy.

Like at the end of the day, if you don't have money money you don't have a fucking chance it's just how it works yeah but once you like

if you have a person in power that right that is truly committed uh to um yeah but every everyone

who's in power has to have a lot of money so how can it

really be you know how can it really be a popular sovereignty you know it's kind of fucking

stupid when you think about it I mean even if

I were to give you this right even if I were to

like it's not just a lot of money like it's so much money

it's so much money

that it's like it's a way to filter out

whether you're part of like this unaccountable

shadows shadowy status quo or not like it's not

just like you have to have 20 million dollars it's like no you have to have like billions and like

hundreds of millions of dollars to even have a chance it's like sorry that's just like that's just

like bullshit that's not that's not popular sovereignty it's like sorry that's just like that's just like bullshit that's not

that's not popular sovereignty it's kind of nonsense

I mean even by those standards right

like even if I were to grant you all of this right

then what country is actually democratic

like none right what country's in Russia and China

oh so true right

The country where like the same guy's been in power

For like 14 years right

Totally democratic right

Like yeah power in that

And power in those countries

Is based on how much you work for the people

That's it

Yeah but even if the people were to Even if the people like even of the people. That's it. Yeah, but even if the people were to, even if the people, like, even if the people, I'm not

saying like, oh, all the Russians hate Putin, right?

Because obviously, like, there are tons of millions of Russians that, you know, love and

like Vladimir Putin, of course.

But even if they didn't

right like who's gonna he controls the

weapons right who political power

comes out of the barrel of a gun right like

he is yeah so if people don't like him

they could just overthrow him and have a new guy

yeah I just don't think

that's a very realistic thing, right?

Like, I think it is

because in those countries, there's no illusions.

We don't, here we have illusions.

We have the illusion that we could just

vote our way into having a voice.

And, you know, in Russia, nobody thinks

that. Nobody thinks that, oh that oh we could just i mean

nobody thinks that like oh yeah i'm just gonna like fucking you know democratically elect a different

guy it's more like look if he's not showing results people are going to start getting discontented and it's

going to be felt. That's why Putin is very... How about like, how about like these Western

European countries? I mean, how can you even argue that there's not democracy here? It's very

clear that when people are discontent, right? They're going to go out to vote, right? to change look at just what happened in france right they're going to change the policies right what changed what changed in france i mean with uh i mean even with the whole not just specifically uh the last two days nothing changed literally nothing changed

but no but obviously it has i mean when people when people get up nothing changed right and there's

going to be material change there's going to be material nothing changed politics takes times

nothing changed nothing changed Nothing changed. Politics takes time.

Nothing changed.

Nothing changed.

I just think that is a... You know, not just a pessimistic view, but just not a very realistic view.

Nothing changed.

Nothing

changed. So nothing ever

happens, yeah?

Not under liberal democracies.

I don't think that's true. I mean, I think that we have a very extensive canon of a U.S. history that tells us that things have happened, right? Things have changed for the better and for the worst, right?

Not through elections.

Of course, through elections, right elections right like do you think that

or you really want to believe that like if

you know if

if if FDR hadn't been elected

right we would have managed to get out of the

Great Depression in the

same way or like uh you know obviously these changes are important right like yeah but that was before

you know that was before the country got hijacked totally and completely when did the country get

hijacked when tr completely when did the country get hijacked when Truman became president

so true

it's literally true

literally directly after FDR

the country started becoming occupied

how what if you talk about

like social policies I mean you you, you don't think like social, like social stuff has some major implications, right? Like, even in, even in, even in, when, when we gave, you know, minorities the right to vote, right? Isn't that a substantial change in the nation?

Superficially. the right to vote right doesn't that a substantial change in the nation superficially i mean like i guess yeah how do you mean superficially i mean we're talking about

second class a moral victory right this was like a pretty big difference i mean it was a more

it was a moral victory but tang tangibly, it didn't really

change much.

I just think

you know, you're blinded by your worldview,

right? Like, this is something

that's very, very easy to see, right?

I mean, obviously, millions of people

were elevated to better conditions, right? I'm not saying that it's perfect, right? But they were, right? I mean, obviously, millions of people were elevated to better conditions, right?

I'm not saying that it's perfect, right? But they were, right?

I mean, uh, and now they're dying of fentanyl and suicide because

they're watching fucking TikToks.

Because we're funding Ukraine, right?

Yeah. Anyway,

I don't like you because you're a fucking

Gentile, fucking Goyim,

retard.

If he was Jewish, I would have liked him,

but he's not a fellow

Semite. He's a Gentile.

It's pathetic.

And He's not a fellow Semite. He's a Gentile. It's pathetic. Anyway, let's bring on the next guys. Minion, what's up?

Go ahead, Minion. go ahead minion what's going on all right 5 4 321 you're fucking out

speak dude

yeah hello

yeah yeah yeah you said that uh Yeah, hello? Yeah. Yeah.

You said that Jews have no influence in, like, the modern day banking system or whatever, or historically?

Go ahead and show me

where I said they have no influence

at all no not no like you said

that oh they were like like

just normal like

backwater like pickpocket

or whatever ages there was no usurious

institutions that Jews

controlled, not in the Middle Ages.

What do you think about

the bank of England

and the bank of Amsterdam, which are the

basis for modern-day central banking?

Wasn't controlled by Jews.

So it kind of was, though. central banking. Wasn't controlled by Jews. So

it kind of

was, though.

Based on what?

If you look at

the VLC, for example,

it was the largest shareholder

in the Bank of Amsterdam, and the largest shareholder in the Bank of Amsterdam

and the largest shareholder in the

VLC was a

Jew. Where are you linking that?

I'll show it to you. Hold up.

I'll show you proof that

a Jew was the largest shareholder

in the VOC.

By the way, this was...

This was in the Middle Ages?

No, no, no.

We're talking about the Bank of Amsterdam.

This is like the rise of capitalism, like 1690s onwards.

Yeah, go ahead and show me.

Yeah, okay.

By the way, you know what the, like who created the Bank of England?

Uh, fucking gentile

goyem

so

basically

what's it called

what do you want me to post it all up i can't post you

go posted in vc chat

dude my

can i like join and leave

because my VC's bugging?

I need to restart.

Well, you don't have to...

Just link it.

No, like, my thing is frozen.

Like, I can't...

All right. Well, go get your fucking life together.

Dude, hold that, pause, pause, pause. I'll show it to All right. We'll go get your fucking life together. Dude, hold that pause,

pause,

pause, I'll show it to you after.

I'll give all the citations and shit.

Okay,

you can verify my...

Go back to the back of the line.

Nice guy.

What's going on?

Yo, what's going on?

Hey, Huss, how are you?

Yeah, what's up?

Um, I was just sort of thinking about...

Oh, you're not one guy from twitter no no it's not please yeah okay

anyway what's up um i was just sort of thinking about because i mean okay i'm that guy i'm that

wicknash guy that sometimes comes on here and destroys communists.

But I've been sort of distancing myself from that circle because it kind of became a bit too self-indulgent into the philosophies of

Nietzsche and there was a lot of homosexuality and other kind of stuff going on.

But I have been sort of studying this from my own perspective and the developments that I've been taking

place.

And I'm starting to understand what the mass

appeal of Nazism neo-Nazism is specifically in Europe and the US and in my opinion I

think that it is going to take Europe

in a very swift wave

and it's going to happen

very quickly

in a span of maybe

like one or two days

there's going to be like a night of dagger

kind of thing

well not days from now

but it's going to

all of those things will occur

quite sporadically

what do you think yeah what's going to happen

like what is all going to what is it all leading up to

i think there is a lot of suppression of uh emotions and uh frustrations and the more the left is going to

uh conglomerate and

antagonize

these kind of anti-immigrant

impulses, the more

these people are going to

hold

a kind of a wave of repression

that's going to hit. And I think that's basically how

right-wing stuff really works. They just sort of

take over instead of just slowly

developing strategy.

I think everything is based on organization and I don't think the right is capable of that.

I think that some of them can be chosen by actual established powerful people and then you know

basically given a bunch of money to do whatever but that's not just a sporadic burst of passion

that's a kind of you know Nazi Germany type of thing so but I don't I don't see us entering that scenario right now but I am curious about what all this Twitter stuff's building up to I mean like I look at, like, I look at Lucas

Gage. I look at Lucas Gage.

And I see

a real life

thing of, like, yelling at

Chinese people

about the Jews.

Because of the Chinese food you know

I see that

but I don't see that really going anywhere

you know I don't really

I don't know where that's going

no no I don't think that

kind of Nazism is

going anywhere, because this is like

overt expulsion of

emotions, and I'm not really

talking about that. But that's what

Twitter has become at the moment. It's like

this, you know,

this logical conclusion

to this absolutist

free speech stuff

where, you know, people are just sort of

airing there any kind

of frustrations they have

after seeing some random video of a black guy beating up a white guy

and then you know there are people opportunists opportunists uh who are kind of taking exploiting that to make money.

And that's what it's become like this rage-baiting

machine. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about a more complex

kind of organized and intellectualized formation of like this Nazism, which is based on the philosophy of Nietzsche.

And I also find that quite interesting because it specifically flirts with your vanity by, I'm talking about initiation.

Nishianism, where it specifically tries to inflate your ego and this is really what the basis of

modern writing movement is it's like just pure ego and aestheticism and just aesthetics and ego,

they don't really have anything else.

They just have this kind of, well, we look good,

and we just think really highly

but I always see that,

I see that as an infinite regression where it's like we look good but simultaneously

there's just kind of spiral to the bottom where the fleeting image of perfection is always

seems like it's almost at your grasp but each each day that passes is just less and less close to you.

And I see that as a kind of a mode of degeneracy and decay.

And have you seen The Purge?

I have not. Is that a book?

No, it's like a movie.

No, no, I have not.

It's basically a movie where

there's a night

where there's no laws

every day in America

and like

people can like do whatever they want

so like everyone goes crazy and just starts

like you know

like torturing and murdering each other

and like wearing masks and like all this

crazy stuff and i can see a lot of

this leading up to that but then i think to myself that doesn't last very long and it's a very

convenient pretext for new forms of political authority to arise in the name of, you know, putting all that chaos to an end.

And then that's what we'll basically end with.

But I do sense that people are fenting.

But I don't, do you think that could be hijacked for like mobilizing for war

like if we go to war

you know the west goes to war

could that be channeled

into a kind of morale

yeah obviously i mean that's all they have

it's it's it's i mean like that's all they have. It's, it's, I mean, like, that's like the basis of, of modern,

um, oh, not just modern, just like classic, um, European or Anglo-Protestant,

Anglo-German philosophy is that you have to

I mean, you know, if you look at the

Faustian spirit, Goethe's

Faust, he says, he asks a very

good question, which is, what moves the spirit, specifically of the Western man?

And then he just tragically comes to this conclusion, this really silly conclusion, that he moves himself,

which is crazy because on the east you have so many

people you know but you've got Buddha Tiao all they're all speculating like what are the

cosmic laws and how does this happen and And on the other hand,

you have this

Garthor who says,

oh, I actually move myself.

I motivate myself

and I create all these

ideas and desires myself.

So, and this is really just, you're just cycling a form of,

um, self-conceitism and you're telling yourself, well, I'm going, I'm, I'm the greatest that has ever been, and my countries,

I mean, obviously Europe has never been always great, it's been quite poor for most of its history,

but, you know, you just keep conflating your ego.

And in order to do that, you have to keep attacking people.

You have to push out your outer form.

And that would be my explanation as to why.

I think the central, one of the central contradictions of

modernity i we can't this is an interesting conversation we can't draw it out too long but i think

one of the central contradictions of modernity is that there is a difference.

It's not so much we have to dichotomize a cult of selfhood versus the selfless kind of reality of some, you know,

ulterior kind of larger being, you know, some larger cosmos within which the self is just a part.

But there is a irreconcilable difference between the self as it really is, as it really exists, and the conceit of the self, right? And I think that is there in the beginning, even with the principle of logos in the pre-socratics

and in heraclitus on the one hand you know there is the the objective reality of thought or the selfhood and so on.

And then on the other hand, there is the immediacy which that reality impresses upon us,

which we confuse to be the same as that reality in which we reduce that reality to.

So for example, the self is a great example

we confuse the self for what we see in the mirror because that is the immediacy of the self or we

reduce the self to the immediate product of thought like with descart i think therefore

i am i have you know i have nothing but my capacity to verify that i am thinking being i'm thinking

right therefore i exist and this is a kind of of the reduction of being to the kind of affect of immediate affect.

It's immediate affect.

And the trick is that the grain of truth is that, of course, what you see in the mirror is a part of what you are.

It's involved. It has some relation, at least.

And of course, your thought is related to your being, at least.

But it's the exclusion, reduction, where you say, I am only what I see in the mirror.

That's all it is, right?

I am only to the extent that I am immediate to my senses or to myself.

Yes.

And whereas the selfhood actually contains a kind of holistic cosmos that premise the possibility

of the thinking consciousness itself.

So that's the paradox.

And European civilization, I think, is tending toward the, has always tended toward the question of, yes, strongly emphasizing the kind of relationship between the immediacy of being and being itself.

And we can't just say it's a spiral purely into oblivion like Heidegger does, because there is a relationship between those, that European civilization was, to at least some extent, correctly recognizing, right, in ways that other civilizations were not they were recognizing

moments of the immediacy of the self and of being in ways that others were not.

This is like modern science, all this kind of stuff.

Kepler or Galileo, whatever.

But then the problem is like, there's always the golden age of Europe and then the problem is like there's always the golden age of Europe and then the problem of degeneration, the cycle of golden age and renaissance and then degeneration. For other civilizations,

the cause of this cycle is clear. It's Ibn Khaldun talks about it. It's the problem of nomads coming in, conquering, invigorating, reinvigorating people's honor. Then they get complacent and too comfortable and decay, and the whole thing

starts again, right? Then they get reconquered.

Yeah, it's the natural cycle.

But that's not really the cycle of Europe. Europe's cycle is a kind of moment of brilliance, a moment of brilliance in which an immediacy of being is beheld and recognized where it would otherwise have been drowned out into the background and the noise of convention, right? And then this leads to kinds of discoveries and innovations and stuff. But then the problem begins where being is reduced to that immediacy, the reduction happens, to the exclusion of its premises. So you have a problem of a kind of brilliance arising, but its own premises are occluded to it and excludes its own premises.

Even, you know, Nick Land, where Compton Capital, the Prohibition of Incest is probably one of my favorite things he's ever written, but I think he shuns that work.

I don't agree with it entirely, but he basically says, it's like there is a kind of exclusionary mechanism of Western civilization with regard to its actual material premises that it has to kind of filter, it extracts them, but it filters them in the process of extraction to the point where it's kind of excluding this outside it's denying it and excluding it

while simultaneously deriving its kind of its basis from, right?

It's order from.

So it's a very interesting kind of thing.

But more specifically, just to conclude,

I know I've been rambling, but just to conclude, I think the moment unique to us now is very much specific, although there's historical patterns, but this one is specific to the age of social media and the information

age. And more specifically, this kind of, the way the ego has become distributed and socialized

and basically collectivized, right, through social media and through this kind of

the phenomenology, if you will, of mass media, the way that the relationship we have to our

own immediacy of self and existence is mediated to us through the kind of spectacle of the internet and and not just mass media but social media. The era of mass media is the late 20th century right this is social media

which is very different social media is about cybernetics it's about feedback loops mass media is

not about likes it's not about engagement social media is about

you know methods by which our egos are validated are confirmed and the whole thing

that drives the groyper community you know uh these kinds of rituals of exclusion and inclusion and recognition and so on and humiliation.

All of these things are now mediated in a purely phenomenological way that has been totally detached from the immediacy of our experience.

And I think a lot of...

Sorry?

Grapers are particularly effective, but only in the West.

This kind of thing would not work outside because the West particularly is prone to conditioning, to this kind of mass conditioning. And you can say it comes out of like this kind of social contract or the categorical imperative. But sorry. Yeah. No, just real quick. I think, I think, you know, the thing in the West is that, look, China has the same technology we have, social media, but the reason they don't have that is because it doesn't occur to them to reduce the whole of their civilization to the social media, right?

There's a clear, substantive, unconscious reality of civilization there, that they recognize and acknowledge.

Our crisis in the West is that we're searching for our civilization and our existence only to the extent that we could reduce it to this kind of form of social media.

And I think what we're seeing is a huge reflection of that.

But it's not social media.

I mean, social media is an accelerant.

As you said, it's the acceleration of the feedback to make it smaller.

But it accelerates something that is already there, which is this kind of conditioning, the way

everybody is conditioned and follows the same kind of logic, the same kind of ideas, the same kind of things.

And I think the Groypers

have kind of

almost perfected that

to achieve because what they're doing is

kind of performative and it doesn't

make sense. It's really dumb.

But they know that this is how it works.

And I think it comes directly from the Catholic Church,

the way it conditioned Catholic countries.

But in my opinion, I think that the basis of right wing

is a lot more than just the hyperfixation of the consciousness.

Because I do agree that

yeah they are not

concerned

with the holistic

form of self

they're mostly concerned

with the immediate

form of self

which is the conscious self

and they ignore

what their inner self is actually thinking.

They ignore anything that's going on in the unconscious or the subconscious,

and they develop these kinds of very strange complexes like homosexuality and transgenderism,

which is extremely common in writing circles nowadays.

And they become these kind of reclusive, conniving, anti-hero villains who say, oh,

one day I'm going to rule everything. One day, we are going to rule the whole world. And I think that

there is something, there is something to it. There's a,

there's a pattern to it, which, which is congruent with the, uh, with the 1930s

and

to me there would be

a very

it would be a very big challenge to

to fight that

because

not only are they just completely mentally unhinged, but they're also just sort of worshipping violence in a very corrupt way. They've almost turned violence into a kind of a religion,

and they're hoping for it. And I don't think that it's going to be something that can be combated

by this kind of an immediate reaction

but I do find

communism interesting

in those regards because

Stalin was able to overcome

Hitler and this is because Stalin was able to overcome Hitler,

and this is kind of like a controversial thing,

but the only reason I think Stalin was able to overcome him

was because he decided to not be a reckless, and he decided to not be a reckless

and he decided to

perform

to form relations with others

and I think

that's going to be like the main uh kind of a challenge to

form alliances and not be betrayed and be ready because i don't i think that neo-nazism

or neo-nazism whatever you you want to call it, it is kind of inevitable, and it has some kind of a very certain mass appeal.

Yeah, I mean, I see there's the mass appeal. I see it. I just don't know where exactly where it's going, like in the specifics. And that's what I'm interested in. I mean, I don't see where it's going politically. I don't see their capacity to form coalitions and organically form mass

movements. But I think my prediction has always been that we are headed for some kind of war,

you know, probably.

And I think this ideology would be very accommodating to that.

I mean, how else are you going to raise morale?

Why else would people want to fight in a war, if not this kind of nihilistic cult of violence or whatever, you know.

Nobody believes in democracy or whatever anymore, you know.

Yeah, yeah.

What do you think about this new way of Indian right wing is

and the way

I was really

thinking about that

and I find

it so fascinating

because

I think there is

some kind of

hidden I don't know I wouldn't say hidden I would say like there is some kind of hidden.

I don't know.

I wouldn't say hidden.

I would say like there is a super historical relation.

Like there's some deeper cunning of reason that's uniting this Hindufda stuff with the Western right wing. And I'm not just saying that in terms of like the shared of interest in Indo-European, you know, whatever, esotericism. That's a superficial view.

But I think there's something, there's, I feel like the zeitgeist, the spiritual

heart and core of this is actually coming from India.

And it's like you think about it, and it's like the professional managerial class of America

and Britain in particular is increasingly just imported from India, from the Brahman cast.

It's incredible.

I don't know if you know this.

In the U.S.,

the number two immigration group

is India.

In the U.S., not Britain, you know?

Um...

I do think that's quite true and I do think that's quite true and I do think that considering the number of gods they've had and almost every religion, almost every religious leader has been through that place. I think

it is sort of formed at the spiritual core of the world. And it also kind of indicates,

its emergence also indicates that the

war that we're

kind of heading

towards is going to be a spiritual

war. It's not going to be like

a

physiological. I don't mean to cut you off, but like

isn't it interesting how like this

you mentioned the stuff about the ego

and how like that's at the core of this.

You combine that with the dynamics of social

media. There's a strange

archae

futuristic logic

where like none of this is new to India.

None of it.

I know the caste system's a mean, but it's a real thing.

There's like a real caste system.

There is a

religiously based sense that some are literally higher than others.

And you can see the egotism of the kind of Indian, I don't know, Indian ultra-right.

And we see it because of the comical proportions it has led to.

But it's like, it's the pure and distilled pure ego.

It's not even rooted in any kind pure ego. It's not even

rooted in any kind of reality.

It's just a pure ego, right?

I think

you're referring to

the system of

Werner from the

Manishmiri. Another thing is like you Werner from the Manusrami Manus Miri

Another thing is like you watch

Bollywood movies

And there's always these like dance scenes

They're famous for him

But it's like

They're very like narcissistic

When you think about it

Because it's like

It's literally like Hundreds of people all choreographically dancing about like one main character like to celebrate them and basically glaze the fuck out of them so it's literally like the fantasy of like imagine you're outside like literally everyone is dancing and thinking about you and it's all for you and it's like this kind of like spectacle of narcissism you know i like the part where the the girl and the boy are about to kiss and they just before

their lips touch they just start

dancing

the whole

the whole crowd just

converges no I don't think that

the

no I disagree with that

because I have studied quite a lot of Vedic texts, not as much as I'd like to have, because there's so much. But I can decisively say that there is no genetic or genus

basis of caste or the

Varna's. Varna was designed

basically to

the main focus was

just to separate the Brahmin class from the Shatshrya class, the ascetics from the warriors.

Because what the warriors would do is that they would kill everybody, right?

And after taking over a land, they would kill everybody right and after taking over a land they would kill everybody

but the ascetics were supposed to be the spiritual leaders they didn't really have a side or they

didn't believe in violence at all they were vegetarians.

So the Varnah, the concept of Werner was to sort of make, make sure that there are sacred things

that you don't destroy.

You don't destroy temples.

You don't destroy innocent people and and the rest was basically just you know i think i think

that's probably the historical but i think in modern india you know like i really see the patterns of

the western far right.

Like, you want it.

It's in India today, you know?

Like, I feel like that is the real...

Like, that is the...

That's reactionary.

Sorry?

That's so reactionary, though.

It's not...

I think it's like... It's like that kind of formative racism that you would have on 4chan. I mean, now it's quite real. Now it's definitely real. I'm just saying like I see the, the Western far right, its zeitgeist is in is in today's india

like already i don't think so i think it's the opposite i think that this kind of

right wing reactionism to liberal academics, like this kind of Trotsky's academics,

who basically always attack the ruling class or the upper

middle class

like you know

you know how you had

these people

in academia

attack white people

similarly

they do the exact same thing

in India.

Yeah, yeah, I see what you're saying.

But there's still like...

Sorry?

It's just a reaction.

And most of them don't even...

Oh, that's what you mean by reactionary.

Sure, but isn't there always like mob violence and stuff

like happening all the time where they're attacking

minorities and stuff? That's propaganda.

That's propaganda.

Yeah.

The mob violence don't know.

No, that's it.

Okay, I know you don't believe me

but I've recently, if you look into it, if you look into it, every single time there's like some kind of a violent thing. Every single time there's a rape case. Like, imagine, imagine talking about every single rape case that occurs in Libya.

That never happens. In India, whenever it happens, it's like world news, like, what's

going on in India? I don't know

why. I really cannot

tell you why India, everybody,

the whole world is so fixated

in India, when, if you compare the numbers you has u.s is

way far ahead in violence and in uh in rape cases but this country of like vegetarian

beta males who can barely lift like a brick they're not capable of

committing violence why are they so fixated upon and and like right i don't know I don't know

but

I hate to wrap it up here

but it's getting real late

and I got to bring this idiot on

I understand yes

thanks for having me on

yeah

thanks for yeah good discussion

see you

see yeah

all right

minion

all right so I'm looking at your links

and where are you saying

that uh

they ran the bank of

Amsterdam and they owned it

where is okay if you look in the chat you'll ran the bank of Amsterdam and they owned it. Okay.

If you're looking at the chat, you'll see that a link sources showing the larger shoulder in VOC was a Jew.

Which link is that?

It's not, well, I gave a link and i also gave a screenshot but

what am is this william of orange yeah all right so william of orange was financially backed by yo sami besie's what's up financially backed by

antonio lopez a jewish banker who was the leading shareholder in who was a leading shareholder in the Dutch West India company he placed

two million at Williams disposal which cost a total of seven what yeah I'm supposed

to make of this okay so

they own the bank of England and Amsterdam

okay so

for England

okay so for England after

like he got a bunch of loans

from the bank of Amsterdam

he marched on where's where from the bank of Amsterdam he marched on

where's where's the link

that shows that

the Jews owned

the most majority of Bank of England

and Bank of Amsterdam at this time

I'm getting there

I'm going to explain it.

By the way,

this guy's not even in Ashkenazi.

He's Sephardic, so it's kind of stupid,

right?

No,

they're,

you know,

they're all,

like,

different types of Jews,

but they're still Jews.

Yeah,

sure. And I do agree that they're still Jews. Yeah, sure.

And I do agree that they're very, like,

bickering and, like, legalistic,

but they, like, when it comes to, like, you see...

Don't, don't walk it back.

I need the evidence that they own these banks.

Okay.

So, as I said,

after the fact that

you know, he supported

William in his military

campaigns, he marched

on London in

1690 when the English King died.

And then...

Can you just break these numbers down for me?

Like statistics and...

Instead of telling me a bedtime story?

No, no, it matters.

It matters because he created the Bank of England as well.

Who created the Bank of England?

William the Orange and is supporting, like, finances and whatnot.

So you're claiming the Jews created the Bank of England.

Where's your evidence?

I showed you that the largest shareholder, or one of the largest shareholders...

You told me that one guy funded his military expedition.

Yeah, I saw it.

Where's the evidence that

that...

So, hold up.

One guy gave him two out of

the $7 million

for his expedition.

And that guy was a

Sephardic Jew from Spain

And I

Alright let me

Let me explain

Okay

So he used that money

To march on London

And then

They gave him more money

To like fund a series of different wars

The reason he created the Bank of England

was to invest and also

pay off the debt

from... But the majority

of the debt wasn't the Jewish guy.

It was... I mean, you're saying

the $7 million in debt is what created

the Bank of England? Well, look, you're saying the $7 million in debt is what created the Bank of England?

Well, look, you gave me one military expedition where two out of seven of the million for that expedition was a Jew.

Now you're talking about other military expeditions.

Where's the evidence that Jews formed a, you know, where's the Jews in those expeditions?

Can you give us those?

Yeah, okay.

So it shows in the link that he gave the money to him in, I believe, 1690, correct?

Where?

The link.

It's in the link.

Which one?

It's the first one, the first one.

All right, the first one.

I believe you got a scroll down, no.

That was the military expedition for $7 million, okay?

Yeah, yeah, and he marched on, it says what year?

1688.

Okay, so that's like around when the King Charles II died and he used that money to march on the city of London relatively easily.

And after like he needed more money to, you know, maintain a personal union between him and the Queen of England, the Queen Concert of England.

So, like, he created the Bank of England, William the Orange.

You can, like, look it up, like, in Google and see that he created the bank of England in 69d

I believe

to pay off

said debt and then

but the majority of the debt wasn't a Jew

though

so you're saying 2 million out of the 7 million like that that wasn't a Jew, though. So you're saying

2 million out of the 7 million?

Like, that's a lot of money,

though, compared to. But the Bank of England,

first of all, but that's not what your

link says. Your link doesn't say that the Bank

of England was formed.

No, I give it multiple

links, though. But where is the

proof that the Bank of England was formed

to pay off Antonio

Lopez Suazo?

You, okay,

look, you can...

Where? It's on Wikipedia.

Where?

It's on Wikipedia, the reason...

So link it.

Link me what you're talking about.

You haven't linked it.

It's...

Oh, okay.

Hold up.

Let me pull it up.

You know what?

You linked me some retarded schizo nonsense.

What the fuck is this? I gave it multiple links.

This is what he...

This is a Twitter fucking meme for the mentally retarded.

You have to do better than that with me, dude.

I actually care about truth.

You just can't fabricate an image.

I'm not a fucking retard.

I'm not...

I'm not fabricating it.

It gives a citation.

This is some schizo-babel nonsense.

What is this?

It gives a citation, though.

It gives a citation.

Where's the primary source

it's citing?

It's below.

You're looking at the black screen one, right?

I'm not looking at your screen.

But, like, see, this is a fucking

JPEG with a citation to make it

look legit, but then if I probably

look this up, there's nothing.

I mean, it's there for you to look

it up, you're asking for that. No, why isn't this ever

compiled in like a fucking

article where I can click the link?

It's always like a J-Pen-Buy. No, no, it's

funny because it's compiled in a book,

the history of central banking.

Show me that link the primary

source that justifies the

pro. It's fucking linking

the learned elders of the protocol

of Zion oh my god

no but the other links

around it also corroborate like the

what you're talking about the link elders of Zion the other links around it also corroborate. Like the intercept.

What are you talking about?

The links.

There it does.

Elders of Zion.

No, like the other links I gave as well.

Like with them also funding

the new model army

with Cromwell and stuff.

You're saying the Jews funded Cromwell now?

Yeah, they also funded him in killing...

He actually readmished the Jews back into England.

Sephardic Jews in the early...

And the early years of the Bank of England.

Let's check it out.

In the chapter on the proprietors and the...

This is a paywalled, by the way.

The late Sir John Clement called attention to the high percentage of Spanish and Portuguese names of Jews

of the Sephardum, which appeared in the list of the proprietors in the bank's early years.

He noted that in 1701, those names constituted a full ninth of the group of

107 proprietors.

A whole ninth.

Yeah, and also

they were like, one that he,

okay, yeah, but in relative sense, there's only two million. the way. Okay. Yeah,

but in relative sense

there's only

two million Jews

in the entire world

at that time.

Yeah,

but the eight out of nine

that's just like

don't pay attention to the

don't pay attention to the don't pay attention to

Don't pay attention to the 90 Don't pay attention to the 90%.

Hold on. No, no, no, no.

I'm not saying that they don't play a part in...

Like, Protestants don't play a part in that.

There was a parallel with the Bank of Amsterdam

where there was 25 Jews among

the 731

Yeah

25 and there's 7109

Hold on hold up hold up hold up

So okay

It's like a fucking

Majority

Think think that there's

There's 2 million Jews in the world

in the entire world, okay?

And they

like they gave

2 million out of the 7 million

to fund

Cromwell

There's 2 million Jews in the world And they all funded Cromwell There's 2 million Jews in the world

And they all funded Cromwell

At that time

Not all of them

No just the

The Moranos

Which were

Crypto Jews

Like literal Jews

So this isn't about Jewish control anymore

It's about the disproportionate representation.

No.

No.

I'm saying I'm saying the disproportionate amount of them.

In the government or whatever banks or whatever

this is crazy intelligence

yeah

it helped them to like

but you told me they founded the bank

but you told me they founded the bank but in

17 no I said

I said they funded William of Orange

two found the bank in order to like pay off debt and do things like...

But you didn't link any evidence of that. This link only says that in 1701, a person, Sir John Clagfam, claims that a ninth of the group of

107 held 4,000 stock and upwards,

which was qualification for governors.

No, but I, no, no, I'm talking about...

I'm talking about in 1690 when he actually, like, funded, like, the actual...

But yeah, but you didn't give me any sources for that.

So we're talking...

I did. I gave a source for showing that he funded William of Orange.

So seven...

You saw it, yeah 7 So 10 years pass

And the Jews are a 9th

Instead of being the super majority you're claiming

No but they still like funded and were a part of like the like disproportionately and they did influence it as well like the VOC was still very important until like after you know uh what's it called the Spanish Succession War

and then the major

naval power

after that

coincidentally

was England

which

what are you talking about

you're saying it's a coincidence that England became...

No, I'm not. I'm not saying it's a coincidence. I'm saying...

You're saying the Jews manufactured the rise of England?

Partially, yeah. Yeah, pretty much.

So the white man is not, in fact it's just the jews otherwise the english not entirely not entirely i'm saying otherwise the english i'm saying i'm saying i'm saying the no no no no i'm talking about now you said the jews i'm talking about the banking system no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no, no, no, no, you can't walk it back now. You said the Jews were responsible. I'm talking about the banking system, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you said the Jews.

Which one is it?

Did the white man create the modern world or the Jews did?

All right, I'll explain the nuance to it, okay?

Because you're saying without the Jews.

They funded the various wars, which led to the rise of England and whatnot,

but it was their expertise and their manpower that actually,

you know,

led the wars.

They just, like, funded it and... So without the Jews,

the white man's world,

white man would still be a Shrek living in the swamp.

Not really.

They'd still be doing something.

It's just, no, no, no.

The reason they gave them, you know, the money was to get readmissioned back into England,

to get more property, to get land enclosure in the 1750s, which pushed everyone

into the cities, which led to the ride. enclosure in the 1750s which pushed everyone into

the cities which

led to the rise of the Anglo and

Jewish industrial class and

a lot of stuff like that.

But the Jews are... Within

less than 100 years, the population

went from 60% living on like rural manners and whatnot, communal lands and whatnot, to being forced entirely into the urban cities and like denigrating poverty.

Yeah, but how are the Jews responsible for that?

Okay, so do you know what the enclosure acts were, right?

You're saying the Jews were behind the enclosures now?

This is crazy.

No, no, not entirely, but they did play is crazy. No, not entirely, but

they did play a part.

No, the British landed

aristocracy did that.

The landed... No, I'm aware

but it was passed

through Congress, not Congress, Parliament.

The House of Lords.

Yeah.

And it was finalized primarily.

And it was something the English ruling,

something the English ruling class wanted to do.

No,

but in the 16th,

in the 15th,

the,

you know,

English kids. 15s before the English Civil War Yeah it matters because before that

Let me let me

We're talking about enclosure right

This enclosure happened

Started around the 13s and gradually continued onwards and rapidly happened in the 17th, correct?

The enclosure movement really takes off after the Civil War.

Yeah, I'm sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. But before the Civil War, the kings supported various different anti-enclosure acts.

They limited certain powers and whatnot.

Like, for example, in 1609 after like the Kets Rebellion, which was a rebellion.

Ah, I know, okay listen

Yeah

The Jews were not responsible

For the English Civil War

No

I'm not saying

They're they

They you know

Funded it and they Used it to get readmission back into England.

They didn't cause the Civil War itself, but they used it for their own benefit.

You're saying there were no Jews in England before the Civil War?

They got exposed, yeah. They got exposed. Yeah.

Let me check

exactly when they were let back.

I'm not 100% on that.

They were let back

after the Civil War

under comma.

You can search up

the readmission charter. They readmission in 1290

yeah

uh

yeah yeah you're right

it was cromwell

just wanted to

yeah and by the way

it was the reason he

you know wait wait wait wait but that was

hold on hold on.

That was...

Okay, that was informally...

No, because there was a target for it.

They were starting to come back before then, I think.

No, well, yeah.

The thing is, you know what Moranos are, right?

Yeah, yeah, from Portugal and Spain.

Yeah, those, they moved to, like, Amsterdam in Amsterdam and like various different areas

and they adopted a sham form of Christianity

Crypto Judaism like literal

Crypto Judaism correct

So they formalized it

By the charter by God named

Ben Messina Israel

I don't know how to pronounce it

All right, all right, all right, we need to get to the point here.

So you're saying the English Civil War

happened to bring, because Jews,

because they wanted to come back.

I'm saying, I'm saying they use the turmoil in england

to uh lobby uh cramma and giving funding to get uh you know to fund his army and essentially

i get back into the land of england. Well, where's the evidence for that?

I just mentioned the charter by Israel, Ben Messina.

I don't know how to pronounce it.

Where's the evidence that...

Where's the evidence that Cromwell's army

was

primarily

funded by Jews

Oh okay

I'll give you evidence

search up

You know Antonio

Fernando

Carvalage

Bro, just link it to me

I'm literally on stream

Just link it so we can all look through it

Dude

It's not

For some reason it's not like letting me outside of gray

mar get in here i don't want to fuck it i'll give it to you i mean like you just you're kind of

running here i'll give it to you like after you can show stream all that i'm not like i'll

literally have one you literally have one minute, dude.

Dude, it doesn't allow me to, like, leave the sidebar on the Discord thing.

Like, I can't click anything else. It's like, I don't know who you want to do.

Like, I can give it to you after the debate. I'm not claiming anything. I can give it to you

after the debate. All right. All right. Listen. And I could tell you, like, the names to search up as well.

It's just very clear.

Did usury exist before in England?

Was usury a huge thing in England

before the Jews came back?

Like,

after they got expelled in the 1290s?

Yeah, when the guy who got, he left the Catholic church because of his wife, he wanted to...

Yeah, I'm not saying that there's no instances of user.

No, like, wasn't it really widespread?

Uh, I don't know.

Was it?

Yes.

Yes, it was.

Sammy, what's up?

Hold up, hold up, though.

It was widespread, but like, let's say it was widespread.

There was no basis for a central bank yet.

The central bank of England didn't

like exist at that time like if you look

like most of the lands

were owned by you know

but the press for major

banking institutions

that are wedded to

centralized political power

I mean you can

that goes all the way back to the

early Catholic church

the Roman church and then

through the Crusades you have the

Templars and a bunch of others and it's very

common even in the Middle Ages. So what are you

talking about? Okay, I'm not

saying that banking never existed

in the Middle Ages. I'm saying that the basis

for modern day central banking

is based off the

Bank of Amsterdam, the Bank of England

which were created both by, well not, I don't know if the bank of Amsterdam was created by William of Orange, but the Bank of England was created by William of Orange and the Dutch as well.

And when the Jews got expelled from Portugal and Spain, the regions that they went to were the Netherlands and elsewhere.

But Jews didn't create the central banks.

They just,

they were there,

I agree.

I just,

I,

you know,

I just told you proof in which

they funded,

uh,

William of Orange.

And yeah,

he needed money,

he needed money to pay off his various debt from the war. Where did the Jews get the money to, where did that Jew who funded William of Worge get the money to do that?

Because it was, he was the largest.

You gave me evidence, you gave me, this is fucking largest... You gave me evidence...

You gave me...

This is fucking crazy.

You gave me evidence that for one expedition, one expedition, two out of the seven million he raised came from one Jewish guy.

And that's according to the Jewish Curran's website you gave me.

Whatever.

But you haven't shown me

these other expeditions,

not even one.

Okay.

And then you need to explain to me something.

You need to explain to me

where they got all the capital from to do that.

Okay, I'll explain to you

where they got to the capital from that.

Like many Jews were large shareholders and, explain to you where they got to the capital from that.

Many Jews were large shareholders in the VOC because

they were very mercantile and whatnot.

They got recently exposed from

Portugal, which was a naval power at that time before Spain

entered the personal union with that. The VOC?

Yeah, it was

like one of the richest companies in the 1890s.

Yeah.

The 1890s?

Not eight, bro. My bad. I mean 60. we're yeah the 1890s not 8 my bad my bad i mean 1690s

okay in

Portugal

what are you talking

no i'm okay dude

i'm saying

that in the 15s

the moranos the Moranos,

the Portuguese and Spanish.

Can you tell me what the VOC is?

I don't even know what the fuck that is.

I'm going to be honest.

Like, what is that?

You don't know what it is?

No.

Come on.

It's the

East, it's a Dutch East India company.

So why don't you just say that

that's the

proper way to call it

that I think you know

what the VOC is

I think you're just

I know what the

okay listen

I know what the Dutch

India company is

but

the Dutch and the Portuguese

My history might be rusty

I don't think they were allies

Were they?

No

So how were the Jews from Portugal

I mean Your link told me

I'll explain I'll explain

In the Amsterdam Central Bank

It's only 25 out of the 731

Of the that are Jews

Much less than the Bank of England

So like where did this cap on?

Can I explain?

Okay.

So I'm not saying that Portugal and the Netherlands were allies.

I'm not saying that.

I'm saying that the Jews that lived in Portugal, which was at the time a naval power.

They were very proactive in, you know,

merchantry for like various different reasons.

And then they got exposed.

And the place that they went to after they got exposed was the Netherlands.

And they used their, like you know because they were specialized in trading whatnot prior to that in Portugal and they used that to gain prominence gradually in the VOC in the Netherlands

What do you mean? You get what I'm saying?

I mean, you know, the games, like shareholder, like large portions of the

shareholding, they, you know, they settled in certain portions of the shareholding they uh you know they settled in certain

parts of the east indies like in Indonesia

you saw the first settlements of Jews there

I believe there's still a synagogue there by the way

and you know they you know traded

and basically basically controlled many aspects of the VFC, because they're large shareholders.

And, by the way, they seized a lot of Portuguese colonies, the VOC, that is.

Hmm. Portuguese colonies, the VOC that is. And what year were they

prominent in the VOC? What year would you put that at?

It was a gradual process, I'd say probably

they got exposed in, I'd say probably.

They got exposed in, I believe, the 1520s from Portugal.

All right.

Do you want me to show you an ethnic breakdown of shareholders in the VOOC in 1602?

What does 1602 have to do with this?

I imagine if they got expelled in the 1520s and then went to the Netherlands and became big in the VOC,

they would be very well represented among the shareholders there's a 90 year difference

though

we're talking about like

late 16 1690s

you know 1650s

I'm talking about 1602

1602

1602 the Netherlands

wasn't like that prominent they gained the prominence

in the 1640s and 1630s onwards

like before that

Spain was a dominant they were still fighting a war with Spain, I believe.

Can you show me the Jewish representation in the VOC?

Okay.

By the link, one of the links I showed you said that one of the

larger shareholders...

You can't show me where it's skin you.

You just can't.

I posted like multiple links

and like pictures as well.

From those links.

You got in this VC.

You haven't posted a single new link.

Cause like literally I can't

you know leave the the VC thingy

like it won't let me

I think you know this but

I'll pull it up

Jewish

I've been waiting...

No, I said I was going to give it to you after the debate,

and you can show it to your stream.

I should start charging fucking interest

on these promises you're making,

because it's been 30 fucking minutes,

and I've been waiting for you to give me a fucking link.

Okay.

Okay. and I've been waiting for you to give me a fucking Okay Okay

Jewish

shareholder

Percentage

and VOC

And by in VOC.

And by the way, one of the things I showed you that specific Jew was a large shareholder in the VOC.

But I'll show you another one.

Okay.

So according to

the world's first stock exchange,

Jewish traders by

Lord Widgee Petrom,

a Polish guy.

It says,

um, around 6090, 85% of

trade and shares was in Jewish hands.

The overwhelming

proportion of Jews

who came to play.

Okay, do you want me to link it to or after the debate?

All right.

Let's read this.

Columbia Scholarship Abstract.

Chapter focuses on the presence of Jewish traders in a stock market in Amsterdam during the

17th century. It starts by looking at the dispute between Joseph and his cause of

Jacob over the option that was entered signing a contract. There is a discord between the prairies and the question whether an option transaction actually existed.

Around 6090, 85% of the trade in shares was in Jewish hands.

The overwhelming portion of the Jews came to play were Portuguese

in order to know who to trust when trading in shares.

Medellezra was important.

It was very much brokers advantage of their guild

also admitted a small number of Jews.

I need more context for this.

I mean, the paragraph said...

I gave you context about the Portuguese Jews vibrating.

I need to read more about where this is coming from, because this is a pretty crazy claim.

85% of trade and shares in Jewish hands

in 6090. That's interesting.

It's not though. It kind of corroborates what I said.

Well, it's only

It's also it

would corroborate what you said about the VOA.

But I need to double check it because it's only showing me one paragraph of an abstract.

And I can't look through the book.

Okay.

And I'm trying to find ways to do that

So give me a second

All right

I'm pretty sure there's like

There's more

If you like look around

Go to

Columbia University Press online access and then just type the name of the book and the guy and like Jews or whatever. I don't know.

Yo, an artist, what's up?

By the way, the Pereira guys, I'm pretty sure,

doesn't even sound familiar.

I'm pretty sure I looked into these guys before.

I'm going to pull them up.

All right.

We have 28.

Wow, this is going to be a long time.

I'm legally buying this book right now.

I'm purchasing it it and the purchase is

uh

for some fucking reason

taking

seven minutes to

fuck this

you're gonna read the book and you're gonna

become like red-pilled on everything

It will just come to you like naturally

I suspect that this is

Not exactly what it seems

I don't know I mean it's coming from like Columbia University.

Lynn Richards. I'm pretty sure that's a guy who conducted. This is just an abstract,

and it's a sentence in an abstract, and I want to do my due diligence.

Yeah, you can do that.

I don't know what context would make it seem like

85% of the shareholders is like not that big.

They're not saying share, but this is why

I think it's weird.

Okay, not shareholders.

They're not saying shareholders.

They're very ambiguous saying 85% of the trade in shares.

Dude.

In Jewish hands.

I don't know what that means, though.

Okay, so that doesn't mean shareholders?

Because simultaneously, it also claims that it's conditioning what they meant by Jewish hands, that in order to know who to trust when trading shares, mediation by brokers was important.

So when it came to mediating in

bargains involving

shares, it was

very much to the broker's advantage that

their guild admitted a small number of Jews.

So does this mean that

you know, that

a small number of Jews were utilized for 85% of the trade?

Or does it mean that literally 85% of the trade is controlled by Jews?

So we have to get to the bottom of it.

You know, you know, like somebody, a real estate broker, right? They organize, like, and advertise, like, selling a house to somebody or whatever. The real estate brokers themselves, it's saying the like the brokers themselves are people who

get people to buy in and

like do stuff like that

weren't Jewish, but the people who

actively held assets?

Here's the issue. Here's the issue.

I think we got to the bottom of this.

All right.

He's giving me this link.

These

Jews that we're talking about

here were not engaging

in usury. They were doing quick

trades. They were doing trade

that was settled very quickly. And they were selling to other

people. So they were selling shares to other people doing quick trade. They were brokers.

They weren't engaging in usury no no

okay we're talking about

how much of the percentage of

shareholders

no we're not

with no no no okay okay okay okay

shareholders are not being talked about

at all here okay

yeah it is it says like it doesn't say specific word shareholders but it says

holders of like the shares which is basically the same thing it's it's not listen okay it's not

saying i think it's saying it's saying 85% of the trade

in shares, okay?

What is a shareholder?

Because

in the hands, the shares

are in, okay? Because they're acting as brokers

for other people.

No, no.

You fuck the retard. You fuck the retards. for other people. No, no.

You fuck the retard.

You fuck the retard.

Shut up for a second.

Shut your mouth for a second.

I have to mute this guy's an animal.

Shut your mouth for a second.

They are brokering when all these bigger people who actually own their shares want to sell their shares.

The Jews are brokering the transactions.

That's what it says.

So it's not that the Jews are controlling.

It's very misleading.

They're not, they don't own the shares.

They're facilitating the selling of the shares as brokers doing quick trades that are settled in a matter of days.

Okay.

Holy shit.

It's like you don't fucking read and you just have this knee-jerk reaction. All right, go ahead.

Okay. In the thing itself, it explicitly said that the people doing the brokering were a minority Jewish.

The shareholders themselves who own the shares

are 85% Jewish.

It's not saying...

Where does it say that?

Where does it fucking say that?

All right.

You want me to read it again or what?

Yeah, read it.

Read where it says

that the majority of the shareholders were Jewish and that the people

who were buying them were only a minority were Jews.

Because you don't understand what you try to interpret.

Listen, I'll read it to you.

You're talking about this abstract, right?

I will read it to you.

Understand this.

85% of trade and shares was in Jewish

hands. So they're qualifying that by

saying, if companies wanted to

sell their shares, okay, or trade

in shares, they had to

utilize a small number of Jews as

brokers.

That's what they mean by the Jews being in their hands.

Not that the Jews actually own it, just that they're acting as brokers facilitating the quick trade.

You don't understand what you're reading.

Okay. So when it

says that 85%

is in the

hands of Jews and then it

prefaces after that or

whatever by saying that

a minority were

what's it called actual the actual ones doing the brokering.

I think you have the other way around.

No, it's that 85% of the shares were utilizing that minority within the firms who are used for brokering.

That's what it says.

What?

No, hold up.

85% of the trade relied on utilizing a minority of Jewish brokers.

That's what it says.

Okay. Okay.

What was the website again?

Because I left it.

I don't...

Academic.

O-U-P.

Columbia Scholarship Online. Columbia Scholarship Online.

Columbia Scholarship Online.

And the book is called The World's First Stock Exchange.

Okay, so it says around 1690, 85% of

the trade in shares was in

Jewish hands. The overwhelming

proportion of Jews

who came to

play such an important role

in share trading were

Portuguese Jews. Also, can you shut up important role in share trading were Portuguese

Jews. Also...

Can you shut up? I don't want to keep reading. I've literally

showed it to my fucking stream.

You can hear yourself.

That's what I'm doing.

Okay.

Are you getting mad? Look, look, I'm getting mad because we're going in circles.

I have read this out multiple times.

It is here for everyone to read.

I don't want to fucking hear you.

You're like a fucking guy who's illiterate, who just learned how to read yesterday, who's like

training themselves to be literate reading out loud. You don't know how to read yesterday who's like training themselves to be literate reading out loud you don't

know how to interpret what's being said here they're not claiming the jews own 85 percent of the shares

they're saying that brokers guilds that had jews facilitated 85% of the that 85% of the trade relied upon a small number of jews within these brokers guilds to broker the trades.

That's what it meant.

They were brokers, okay?

So what?

Stop gibbering and respond to that.

I am.

Okay.

So it says when it came to mediating in bargains involved in shares, I fucking hate this guy! You're getting mad! Why are you getting mad? Because you're just

reading it again. Why do you need to read it? I've... How long have I had this open? Stop fucking reading the same paragraph.

He's just like, just we, we know what it says. So we know what it says. There's no dispute

about what it says. It's about how you're interpreting it.

Fuck.

Go ahead.

Okay.

It says when it came to mediating on bargains.

We're done.

We're done.

I'm getting with this fucking guy.

I can't fucking do this all night.

It's 3 a.m.

It's three.

It's these guys like treating this abstract paragraph as the Bible.

And he doesn't even know what it fucking means.

Okay?

Um, crazy. means okay um crazy crazy Okay, look at his own source. It's so interesting. Portuguese zoos did not play a significant part of Amsterdam's rise as a trading center,

which started in the second half of the 16th century.

They were barely involved in setting up the Dutch East India Company.

Among the subscribers to the initial capital

only two

names are Jews from Portugal

it was not surprising

okay so let's see where it talks about.

During the 1660s,

um, You haven't You haven't

Demonstrated You haven't demonstrated. I'm just looking for numbers, guys.

Okay, four years after the United States, under 6% of the account holders of the Bank of Amsterdam were Jews. By 1646, this was 8%. And by 1651, it became 10.5%. Here, you need to see this yourself.

And in 1674, more than 13% of the Bank of Amsterdam's account holders were Jews.

Okay? So 13% was the peak that they're listing here Thank you. Yeah, they dominated the brokerage thing.

Wait, no, no, no. And originally they weren't.

The leading Amsterdam merchants.

And then they became, and then Jews became, I guess, involved in brokerage two groups of traders hold on

they they admit a small Hold on.

They, it was their advantage.iate between Jewish and Christian businessmen.

They were familiar with the Jewish traitors.

Okay.

So that is the end of the chapter on the Jewish traitors. Okay.

Well, so much for the Jews controlling the fucking bank of Amsterdam. At peak, it was 13%.

Ah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Thank you. So among shareholders in the VOC specifically, I want to show this to you, it's true that the peak was 34% by 1700 were owned by 60 Sephardic investors.

And that was where, you know, the company got the reputation that most of the shares were owned by Jews when they weren't.

But they got the stereotype that it was because the 34% was really big.

But that was the peak in the VOC by 1700.

Just want to keep it honest, you know?

Let me see. Okay, so of the 50 license brokers, 50 were Jewish.

Interesting.

All right.

So did Sephardic Jews play a notable part in the, you know, Amsterdam stock exchange from Portugal yeah

yeah

but

again

it was only

as an

ancillary detail

it wasn't the main force

it was as a minority

which by the way I I never denied. I always said a significant

minority of the ruling class, you can say, has Jewish descent. And I only say significant

minority, you know, relative to the population of Jews.

But what's the conclusion we're going to draw from here?

You know, we don't draw the conclusion that Jews are the problem because they're only a minority of the actual ruling class.

It's simple.

Okay, anyway.

What a crazy fucking day.

All right, guys.

This is not over.

See you guys. See you guys.

See you when I see you.

Either tomorrow or the day after.

Bye-bye.

See you.