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Welcome, everybody.

We uh have some things to talk about today, but uh

To begin, I wanna clarify something in case, you know in case there's confusion about it, in case there's a misunderstanding about how power works and how truth works and

How authority works, even, right?

Because I think it's a big misconception.

By the Groiper retards that we're seeing in large numbers.

Not the brightest bunch, not very smart, but that's okay.

But you could see it even in the stream, you could see it on Twitter.

The fact of the matter is they do outnumber us.

They do outnumber us.

You know, there is no getting around the fact that that the ratios happen.

We get ratioed, guys.

Oh no But then you think you think about how Genghis Khan's army was outnumbered, not tenfold, even sometimes twentyfold.

You think about the fact that the Bolsheviks were outnumbered by everyone, and it didn't change the outcome.

You think about the fact that for someone as irrelevant as Haas, and I suppose this is the grounds by which Nick Fuentes justifies not debating me, because where's the answer?

I challenged him to a debate, he hasn't responded.

I wonder I'll let you guess why that is, by the way.

But you have to really guess.

You have to really guess.

Why do they pay so much attention to this space?

Keith Woods and Nick Funtes.

Now, if you're an average Groiper dipshit fucking retard and you see our numbers, you're not impressed.

Yeah, we get it.

You are a peasant, low status.

You're not a man.

You just go with the crowd.

That's what you are.

That's fine.

But your leaders, your leaders don't dismiss us like you do.

Your leaders pay very close attention to what we do over here.

This is why Keith Woods himself posted that clip.

This is why they talk about us all the time.

This is why Keith Woods is constantly stealing our ideas, just like how he stole my thread on Karl Popper.

Completely stole it, by the way, and just added his own little twist about Jews, the leprechauns, right?

But before we get on to the Irish Tether and the Patio Mick Irish Tether, Keith Woods, Sammy Basiz, what's going on?

Before we get into that, I just want it to be clear to this community that.

Don't be impressed by the numbers.

I don't pay attention to them.

I pay attention to the fact that as low as our numbers are,

Keith Woods is scared shitless of us, and so is Nick Fuentes.

And there's a reason why they pay attention to this space.

Because if we were given enough attention, and it's only a matter of time, by the way, it's only a matter of time before our message proliferates and reaches more corners than it is now.

But when it does, Red always, always beats Brown.

And that is how it has always been in history.

And that is how it is as a fact of what is communism and what is fascism in the far right.

It's a matter of the fact of what those things refer to and what they are.

That it is inevitable that Red crushes Brown.

And that's why they watch this space.

It means nothing.

It means nothing.

And there's many things I want to say.

There's many things I want to mention.

By the way, Nick Fuentes gets mogged numbers-wise by Jackson.

So why are we even talking about viewer numbers?

Why does that matter?

What kind of pussy, what kind of feminine, effeminate, bitch-made man, what?

Talks about numbers.

Even when I reached my peak, I was responding to people with zero followers.

Why?

Because it's the truth that matters.

It's the integrity of your message that matters.

We don't come from the same tradition as these flamboyant far-right fruit bowls.

We just don't come from their same tradition.

In our tradition, when Stalin was responding to the anarchists, what did he say?

He said it's not the popularity of their outlook that matters.

It's the integrity of defending the mark.

It's about defending the integrity of the Marxist outlook.

That's why we must respond to the anarchists.

We stand on business and they don't.

They scatter to the wind.

One of us is worth a thousand of them.

And their numbers aren't impressive.

Why?

Because their numbers, as soon as their little bubble pops, they're going to scatter to the fucking wind.

What we have is something solid.

What we have is something that's going to last, going to endure.

And it doesn't take a great deal of thought to understand why that is.

Think through to the conclusion of the Nick Fuentes Keith Woods ideology.

What is the content?

What is the conclusion of their message?

If not, bitching and crying and moaning and whining about why they're not allowed to say certain things while having no comprehension whatsoever of the actual cause and reason for the things that they complain about is.

They have no relationship to the cause.

They just complain about the symptoms.

They complain about symptoms and they have no regard for the disease.

That's why they will be obsolete.

That's why despite their superficial and transient, nebulous popularity, it's ultimately not going to last into anything substantive.

And mark my fucking words.

Because I will take a bullet for what I stand on.

And I will be here if so long as my heart is breathing, so long as my heart is beating, and so long as I am breathing, I will be here for a very long time and I'm not going anywhere.

All of these followers, all of these sycophants don't even know what they're talking about, they'll scatter like mice.

They scatter like mice when one gorilla deals with them.

I'd see one of our guys, one gorilla, fuck up thirty of them.

They scatter like roaches, they scatter like mice, they're insects, they're nothing.

You think we're intimidated by numbers?

All of history, all of history shows.

Conquerors never begin with the numbers.

What nomadic step warrior had numbers behind them?

None of them.

All they had was cohesion.

All they had was honor.

All they had was integrity.

And on that count, we surpass them a millionfold.

It's not even a competition.

They have no honor.

They have no integrity.

They have nothing.

Nothing but hype and lies and speculation.

And it will collapse l for the fucking bubble that it is.

It's just another goddamn crypto scam, and that's all it fucking is.

So let's be clear about that first and foremost.

Mao won all of China with a few thousand men.

You think we give a fuck about numbers?

Who remembers the glory days when I had but under a hundred followers under a hundred solid followers following me into battle and in one fucking weekend I destroyed Xanderhall, Vosh, Destiny, all of them in one fucking night.

You think numbers matters?

No.

It's always been about the integrity of the message.

It's always been about the honor.

It's always been about the solidity.

About the coherence, about the truth.

of what we're fighting for.

Give me three, three decent, honest, honorable Communists.

And I'll fucking take on dozens of them.

Not dozens, hundreds.

Uh

Fuintes is the guy in the corner of a party meme thinking about how no one else notices.

Purely autistic abstraction and zero human spirit.

And remember, to drive home their weakness in comparison to our strength, our indomitable strength, they are the ones who came to us.

Keith Woods, the Irish tether, posted a fuck, he went out of his way not only to check on my YouTube, but to clip it, to post a clip from my YouTube.

This pussy won't fucking debate me.

He won't engage with anything I say, but he's posting clips of me.

I didn't even think of that guy.

I don't even think about these people and they come to me, the guy who's irrelevant.

I want every fucking groiper to pay attention to that fact.

I'm the irrelevant guy, and your leaders come to me.

And there's a fucking reason for that.

And the reason is they know I'm coming for them, and I'm gonna fucking eat them for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

In the same fucking day.

They know my message.

They know the power of this movement.

They know the potential.

You've had 10 years on us, and it's only a matter of time.

We're coming for you.

Remember, they came to me.

I didn't go to them.

You think I give a fuck about Nick Fuentes?

You think I give a fucking shit about Nick Fuentes?

I could go sleep in a fucking cave right now and in two fucking years, he'll be gone.

I don't have to lift a fucking finger.

I'm confident and I know for a fact his bullshit isn't going anywhere.

The most, the most Nick Fuentes and his followers will ever amount to is that when America descends into chaos, they'll just be one of the crazy killer clown gangs running around committing a bunch of fucking atrocities and nonsense and then what?

And then when a leader comes and unifies this broken nation, they will be scattered to the wind like every other one of these factions of nihilists and anti-human scum.

Don't you dare try to fucking go to war with me.

You don't know who the fuck I am and what community I built.

He's in for a big surprise.

He thinks like we're one of these Republicans or one of these TPUSA guys and conservatives.

The gorillas know.

The gorillas know what this is.

They came to me.

They came before me.

Think about that.

They came to me.

I'm irrelevant.

They came to me.

They fear me.

Paperwin outside, what's going on, man?

I'm going to Miami in a matter of weeks.

I am going to Miami in a matter of weeks.

Isn't that where he lives?

So we will have the debate then.

And trust me, he's not going to be able to worm out of it.

I'm going to make sure it happens.

I will be in Miami.

Within two weeks

So let's see.

What does Nick Fuentes say?

Let's go through and run it through.

And I want to just demonstrate to everyone very calmly the bankruptcy.

The idiocy of this ideology.

First of all, let's get to the problem.

Amila with the five.

Because I want to, Amila, what's going on?

I want to really hammer home what all this controversy is about.

Controversy, yes, if you could believe it.

These uh porn addled, retard, mentally fucking stumped they're literally the retards in high school, by the way.

When you g when you're in lunch in high school and you got those retards sitting around, that's who these fucking people are, by the way.

This is what they grew up to be.

The actual retards.

Anyway, this is how they're like, you know what they are?

They're like LGBT Zoomers.

Because you know what they do?

They say, Haz, you're transphobic.

You're transphobic.

You're homophobic.

Instead, they say, Haz, you support reparations and deny Jewish barbarism.

Of course I support reparations, bitch.

Fucking sue me, you pussy!

Why don't you engage with the argument, you fucking bitch?

This gay fucking right-wing cancel culture?

What the fuck is that?

Right-wing cancel culture.

Nick Fuentes, that's what he's brought to the table.

Right-wing cancel culture.

Like, instead of engaging with the actual fucking substance, ah, yeah, enough said.

Enough said.

Enough said.

You're transphobic.

Nough said.

Enough said.

You support reparations.

Enough said.

Nufthed.

You support reparations.

The fuck?

Where's the substance?

Where's the actual addressing the content of my position?

You're slapping a fucking label on my position, and then what?

Nufthed.

That exactly speaks to the bankruptcy.

The bankruptcy and total lack and absence of honor.

That defines your bankrupt ideology and worldview.

Nick Fuentes, the bell tolls for thee, son.

The real holy men are coming.

He goes, he goes, Not said.

He's like, he's trying to list all of these sins that I've committed.

All of these sins that I've committed pertaining to my position.

So I should be canceled.

The fuck is this bitch shit?

I support reparations.

Yes, I fucking support reparations.

So what?

So what?

So what?

And what?

It's like I'm talking to a leftist.

So what I support reparations.

What's what is fundamentally what is wrong with that, by the way?

Tell me what the problem is with taking.

The natural wealth that is monopolized and owned by a tiny minority of fucking capitalist bloodsuckers, and ensuring that black Americans have some land to stand on so they can actually be Americans.

What is so fucking wrong with that?

What is so wrong with seizing the means of production from the capitalist class?

What is wrong with that?

Tell me what sin I have committed by adopting that position.

Tell me the sin I've committed because I believe that I value, I value.

I value the perspective of foundational black Americans more than I value the perspective of a fucking Irish tether named Keith Wood and a guy named Suleiman in fucking UK.

Yes, Tariq Nasheed's voice, in terms of authority, in terms of how much it matters, in terms of who he represents, is much more important than some fucking guy sitting in Ireland and all these random people scattered across the globe.

Think about this.

Americans who have been here for hundreds of years.

A great bulk of that, they were literally slaves who have never, unlike any other group in this country.

Been given a slice of the pie, a bare minimum to stand on, so they don't have to be a permanent underclass.

That's a sin that I think they deserve a piece of the American pie?

That I'm a fucking committing some kind of sin.

Fuck you, you bitch.

You fucking pander to Keith Woods, some fucking foreigner, and I believe foundational Americans should have a peace of this country.

Fuck you And I'm committing a sin.

But that sounds like things that mainstream liberal yeah, I get it sounds like this, I get it looks like this, I get it appears like this, but all you fucking have is aesthetics.

Your whole world view, it's not based in content, it's not based in substance, it's based in superficial flamboyant aesthetics and nothing else.

It it's it's this type of fashion.

I don't give a fuck if some liberals talk about reparations.

When I talk about reparations, I'm talking about it, not them.

So you either fucking engage with what I say and my position or you shut your fucking bitch ass up before I come and slap you across the fucking face.

And shut you up myself.

Yeah.

What's up, Geopolitics?

This Irish Keith Woods.

Reparations.

So what?

So what?

So what?

So what?

I've I'm are you gonna cancel me now?

These people critique wokeness and liberalism and all this shit, but they have reproduced sociologically the same patterns of thoughtless mental retardation that you find in any group of libtard Zoomer LGBT woke tards.

It's the same fucking thing, but it's right-wing coated.

It's the same shit.

It's literally the same thing.

Can anyone make an argument about what's wrong with reparations?

Anyone want to make an argument about what's wrong with reparations?

Make the fucking argument, you little bitch.

Don't just sit here.

Where's all these groipers?

Where are they?

Come in my VC and explain what's wrong with reparations.

Actually, produce an argument.

You think I'm scared to be against reparations?

I believe it's the correct thing.

But you're fucking scared.

See, by cancelling me over something, you're admitting in your little fucking gay retarded little groups, you're admitting something.

You're admitting that you believe

That you are scared to have this opinion because you're going to be socially ostracized.

Tail and diet, what's up?

See, when you cancel me over some shit, you're admitting that this is an opinion you would be scared to have publicly because you would get socially ostracized.

Meaning, you're a fucking pussy who's too scared to stand on what they actually fucking believe and are just what?

Have a fucking sheep mentality.

That's what separates this community from you.

You think my gorillas?

Follow my words with luxury?

You think my gorillas can somehow luxuriously float by in this community?

They have to believe it.

They have to watch me eat every single one of you scum, whether you're the far right or you're these lip tards for breakfast.

They have to see it.

They have to witness my correctness.

They have to see me articulate my position and come to a conclusion themselves about whether they agree with it.

It's not like you, where you just follow whatever this fucking guy says because he's promising to be the next Messiah and the second coming of Jesus Christ.

An Irish tether should have no say

About the business of Americans.

Stay in Ireland and deal with your own problems in Ireland, first of all.

It's so funny, these people say oh

Black people, you know, there's so much crime and all these problems they have.

Well, have you ever investigated why that might be?

John Jackman, what's up?

See, they say, they say, no, no, no, the reason is racial realism.

It's biological.

It's their IQ.

I said, okay, that's one of the conclusions you've entertained.

But why haven't you entertained the other conclusions you could draw?

Why are you so eager to jump to the conclusion that black people are racially inferior to you?

You're not even open-minded to hear the contrary view.

You cancel people and try to silence people who espouse the alternate view.

You literally try to fucking cancel them and make it seem like they're sinning.

You're making it seem like I'm sinning.

Like it's your religious fucking duty to enforce this worldview you have.

Why?

If it was true, if it's if race realism was true, why do you need these gay fucking cancel culture echo chamber fucking circle jerk tactics to enforce your worldview?

Why can't you just fucking defend it on the merits in a fucking debate?

Where are you guys?

Why aren't you in my VC right now defending your world view?

Why do you have to do this pile on cancel culture fucking bullshit?

Think about it.

No honour.

And then they go so far if you don't accept the retarded, stupid fucking JQ ideology, they cancel you.

Like you're committing a sin for not agreeing with them.

Why can't you make a fucking argument, though?

You know, they call me stupid as if I'm supposed to believe that it's self-evident that Jews control everything.

You know what that proves?

It proves you have a mental illness.

You have a pathological disposition which makes you believe Jews control everything in a way that has nothing to do with an inquiry into the actual facts of the matter or any kind of reasoned, independent way of arriving at that conclusion yourself.

Pathologically, psychologically, there's something in you that is compelling you to believe that that is literally beyond the use of the intellect.

And you fucking retards have the audacity to say that I'm fucking stupid when you can't even justify your fucking worldview, you stupid bitch.

They literally believe Jews control everything, not because they have facts which show this, not because they have evidence, not because there's anything substantive that backs this up, but because it's literally how they feel pathologically.

Well, there's a lot of pathologies.

Furries want to fuck animals.

Pedophiles want to fuck kids.

That is literally a pathological disposition they have.

When you come at me and call me stupid for not taking it as self-evident that Jews control everything, you are no different than a fucking pedophile coming to me and telling me, Hey, Haas, isn't it self-evident that you should be attracted to children?

No, that's a you thing.

It has nothing to do with intelligence.

It has everything to do with a psychological disposition you fucking have, not me.

I'm not tempted by your JQ.

I don't find it convincing.

I don't find it persuasive.

You haven't convinced me.

So you think you're gonna fucking cancel me over it, you bitch?

Think about it.

It's a pathological mental illness these people have.

They're trying to make it seem like it's about it.

Hans, you're just not smart enough.

No, no, I understand your pathology.

Like, I get it.

I understand that it's something that exists.

And I understand it.

You see, I understand.

I understand how you could be so fucking retarded to think that way.

But you don't realize that it's wrong.

You don't understand that it's just fucking wrong.

You don't understand that you're just a fucking idiot.

That it has nothing to do with an actual understanding of how the world works.

It has nothing to do with an actual conclusion arrived at by the device of reason.

Forget about empirical evidence, just the device of reason, like thinking it through a little bit.

About why the world is the way it is.

It's a fucking retarded perspective that doesn't take into account, just let's concede to them their because you see, in psychoanalysis, ask any psychologist who forget psychoanalysis.

When you're dealing with a delusional retard, you have to concede their fantasy to them because they're not going to let it go.

It's like a pit bull, but that would be really flattering to call them pit bulls.

It's like a fucking chihuahua that's bit on something, they just can't fucking let go of it, right?

So they bit on this Jew shit, they just fucking can't let go of it, right?

There's just something so fucking persuasive about it to them, right?

So let's concede these fucking rabid rabies foaming out of their mouth fucking retards, their little JQ for the purposes of argumentation.

Even if that was true, even if that was true, how is it?

How has it gotten to the point systemically about the nature of how society is run and the relations of the ownership of wealth, the nature of society and humanity, that that has become the outcome?

Like, what about your fucking Western civilization?

made that possible.

Even if we concede them their mental illness, the only logical conclusion is self criticism.

What went wrong with my fucking society that this happened?

You see, they're attacking, they're literally blaming Jews.

You know what that's like?

Even if they're right about the Jews and they're not.

It's like blaming a fucking retard

Who's a gullible idiot for falling for a Nigerian scammer prince in their emails saying they're a Nigerian prince?

Of course, if you have an opening in your system that allows for the private interest to be asserted over the common interest, a whole host of fucking people are gonna game that and take advantage of it.

You know why not?

Why fucking not?

Where is it in the constitution of our societies or of Western societies has there definitively been an establishment and an enshrinement concretely of the principle of the common good over the private interest?

It was nowhere to be found.

As a matter of fact, the whole of the European feudal system was based on the assertion of the private interests of nobles and aristocrats and all these kinds of fucking people over the common interest.

It was based on the interest of usurers.

Yes, usurers.

And don't give me this bullshit that Catholicism outlawed usury.

No, they didn't.

They just changed the name.

They changed it from usury to interest.

But it was the same thing.

It was just a different fucking name.

And you know what?

I'm not knocking on Catholicism, you know, but you want to do this cancel culture?

Fucking fine, bitch.

But address the substance of what I'm saying.

The Vatican Bank acted in a usurious way throughout history.

That's a matter of fact.

These are simple facts.

All of these different religious orders constituted throughout the Middle Ages, the Templar Order being one of them, by the way.

One of the reasons the Templars were exterminated was why?

Because they were a usurious bank.

All of these were not Jews.

This was all happening by quote-unquote white Catholics.

This is basic history.

This guy, by the way, he's constantly, flamboyantly.

Talking all this bullshit, saying, You're not smart, Haas.

You're not smart.

I don't even want to entertain it because I care about the substance.

Show me the receipts that you have intelligence.

Show me the receipts that you not only have intelligence, but knowledge of history.

I've never seen it, Nick Fuentes.

I've never seen it.

How do you have to be smart?

To just scream and squeal about Jews, does that take intelligence to just say Jews control everything?

I don't think it does.

I think that's something that I would have found very persuasive when I was 13 years old.

And by the way, they try to attach their retarded cope.

with anti Zionism, but Nick Fuentes himself is a Zionist.

He condemned Hamas and the october seventh attacks, and he continues to condemn Hamas and call them terrorists.

So this has nothing to do with Zionism.

This is racialism.

It's not even religious.

It's racial.

It's racialism.

These people have a racialist ideology.

And why am I going to fight that ideology?

Because as an American, what they're going to fucking do is they're going to say, first it's just the Jews, it's just the Jews.

But then they're going to start talking about black people.

They already are.

Then they're going to start talking about the Mexicans.

Then the Asians, and then God knows fucking what.

And guess what?

They're going to bring nihilism and racial violence and bullshit to this fucking country.

And we are going to have to undo all that bullshit as communists.

I prefer not to.

I'd prefer to not have to fucking clean up the mess that they're preparing for us.

I'd rather just go for the fucking juggular of their retarded, divisive worldview that's going to thwart the possibility of any popular front in this country to take down the system right in its fucking cradle.

By the way, they came at me first.

They came at me first.

Yeah, that will get a response.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's what you call overreach.

Coming for me is overreach.

That's what you call overreach.

That's what you call a little too much fucking confidence.

It really reminds me of Hitler himself.

You know, Hitler got a little too confident and he fucked with the wrong person.

He really fucked with the wrong person.

Where are they?

Where are these people?

Where are these people?

Where are these people?

The leader won't debate me, where's the followers?

You guys witnessed with your own eyes how they fucking flee from us like mice, how fucking scared they are of us, because red destroys brown.

As a matter of fact, the only fucking reason communists have been so weak in the face of these people communists is because those communists weren't even communists, they were just liberals.

Here are the real communists who are back, and look at the fucking outcome, they don't even stand a chance.

Absolutely terrifying.

You do you support reparations?

Yes.

Yes, I do.

Yes, I fucking do.

And I'm tired of pretending that I don't, even though I never pretended I didn't.

But it's like, yes, I do.

As a matter of fact, I do fucking support that.

I do support reparations for foundational black Americans.

Why the fuck wouldn't I?

Cause I'm going to explain something to you.

You know.

There's two types of people, right, that I'm gonna name.

Now one type of person one type of person is a is an edgy little child.

It's an edgy little child.

And their whole world view is formed around

what's permissible to say according to the standards of the liberal open society and what's prohibited.

And the logical conclusion of it is uh you know you guys ever see those groipers that are named like child rapist fourteen eighty eight?

That's the logical conclusion of that childish worldview according to which being based just means contradicting everything the establishment says for its own sake.

Well, you know what?

If I turn on cable TV, they're going to condemn pedophilia.

Does that mean you should support pedophilia?

You know what I mean?

It's like if the mainstream is saying we want what's best for Americans, Should you say you want what's worst for Americans?

You're a child.

You're a fucking child.

All of this is just discourse to you.

It's not discourse to me.

You want to know who reminded you it wasn't just discourse?

That bouncer at that club, that fucking Superman decked one of you guys, punched you in the fucking face.

That's who remind you it's not just discourse.

This isn't just an aesthetics discourse kind of thing.

It's about fucking respect.

They're not politically correct in Russia.

They're not politically correct in China.

They're not politically fucking correct in Iran.

But they still make sure that all of the racial groups in those countries have respect.

They don't believe in racism because it fractures the integrity and unity of the nation.

Because it leads to people fucking killing each other and beating each other and rioting because the honor and dignity of their ancestry and their forefathers is being insulted.

There has never been a leader or conqueror in history who did not make sure that every single tribe that he was uniting together under one nation and one umbrella was not respected.

You don't make a unified nation by stepping on the toes of all these different racial groups and insulting them and disrespecting them and attacking their dignity.

That is not how you unify a nation.

Genghis Khan gave recognition and respect to different fucking religions and races.

Genghis Khan, the guy who would level entire fucking cities to the ground.

Nick Fuente wants to call him a fucking liberal.

No, racism comes from liberalism.

Before liberalism, there was no racism.

Every major fucking empire in history was a coalition of tribes and a coalition of races.

Every great fucking empire, that's all that made it an empire.

Otherwise it would have just been a fucking primitive tribe somewhere.

What do you fucking think an empire is?

You think that's liberal?

No, racism comes after liberalism.

Even the Romans who came the closest, the closest to an empire, a pre-modern empire that had no respect for the traditions and histories of other people, even that empire, as much as they were based on an outlook of domination and annihilation of others, even they, to the conquered peoples, what did they do?

They assimilated their idols into their pantheon.

They opened the door for anyone, regardless of their lineage, to become a Roman citizen.

Even Rome, the closest thing, as a matter of fact, this is the best fucking part.

Liberal Enlightenment historians, I believe Edward Gibbon made this argument, that they thought the reason the Roman Empire collapsed was because it was too racial.

They said it was racially diluted and that is why it collapsed.

And that came from liberalism.

You are the fucking liberal.

You the liberal, not me.

You think Tam Merlaine was a fucking liberal, you bitch?

You think Tamerlane was sitting here and gibbering about race?

You're the fucking liberal.

You wanna cancel me over this shit?

Fuck you!

This guy calls himself a fucking Catholic.

What the hell?

The Spanish Empire was a multiracial, multiethnic empire.

You think they fucking believed in white ethno-nationalism?

Go look at the fucking white ethno-nationalism in South America, you fucking moron.

And Mexico.

He calls me the liberal.

His whole fucking world view is based on liberalism.

Yes, yes, those in power preach anti-racism.

They preach anti-racism while stoking the flame of racial tension and racial division at the same time, while giving so much attention and emphasis on the white nationalists like Nick Fuentes at Unite the Right in Charlottesville and Richard Spencer putting their fucking cameras on them.

Why do they do that?

Why do they put their fucking cameras on these white nationalists?

Because they're trying to stoke the flame of racial division, and that's always been what they've tried to fucking do.

And all of their superficial claims of believing in anti-racism and rejecting racism are hollow and insincere and lack genuineness and sincerity.

Ho ho, now you're talking about racism.

Enough said.

How the fuck are you going to unite America into one great nation as a white nationalist?

You are a fucking European nationalist.

Get the fuck out of this continent if that's what you believe.

This will never be South Africa.

This will never even be Australia.

You are never going to turn America into a European country.

The Europeans who fled Europe to come to this country wanted to get away from Europe.

They left Europe.

They were here for a new continent, a new civilization, and a new nation.

If you don't want to fucking be a part of that, go to fucking Europe where you belong.

With Keith fucking Woods.

Go sit with Keith fucking Woods in Europe then.

Go to fucking Ireland!

This is not a white nation state.

This is not a European put it this way: even on the census they used to take, wasps didn't even want to identify as English descent.

They said, No, no, no, I'm American.

My ethnicity is American.

Even on the racial census that they used to take, you know how many fucking Americans said, No, no, no, I'm American.

I'm not English.

I'm American.

Because the people who founded this country didn't want to be Europe.

They wanted to build something new that wasn't Europe.

You want to fucking be Europe?

Go back to Europe.

That's not what this is.

He goes I'm America first No, you're Europe first.

You're not even Europe first You're a nebulous European white identity first That's what you fucking are You're nothing more than that You have nothing to do with America I don't fucking care that you brought Soleiman and all these other people to your stupid fucking America first event nobody gives a shit doesn't change the fact that you're a European nationalist not an American patriot

come for me and bring their whole fucking bring their whole shit on me.

They came for me by the way, the guy who's irrelevant, right?

Well, I could tell why they're thinking about me.

I could tell why they think about me.

It's clear, it's clear.

Look at this look at this fucking shit.

Look at this flamboyant ideology that lacks substance.

It's just based on what?

Being a fucking gossip girl, what the fuck is this?

Some what is what are those guys?

I don't even know what they're called.

Those gossip fashion websites that just talk about, oh, she wore that dress.

She wore that dress.

Look at this.

You support reparations.

You're not religious.

Where's the arguments?

He's just throwing labels on me.

Like, he's calling me transphobic.

What's the difference between this and a leftist just calling me transphobic and this phobic and that phobic?

Like, what's the difference?

Where's your actual fucking argument, you pussy?

You trying to cancel me over some shit?

How fucking gay is that?

You're just canceling me over.

You think the West is controlled by capitalist crypto Nazis?

No, I think the West is controlled by actual fucking capitalist Nazis, not crypto Nazis, actual fucking Nazis.

Rather than Jewish people, you're right.

I think the Jewish ruling class is a tiny minority.

Even if it's not a tiny minority, it's a minority of the ruling class.

That's what I think.

I think they're a minority faction of the ruling class.

That is the genuine and sincere belief I hold.

Care to challenge it?

Care to argue about it?

Care to debate about it?

Care to bring receipts and statistics and naming names?

Because I'll fucking take you to town any fucking day on the matter.

But no, instead, he just states this: gets 2.3 thousand likes by these coping groipers in their telegram.

Why?

Why does he get all these likes?

Because he is signaling that Haas is canceled.

Haas is canceled.

He's signaling.

It's virtue signaling and then it's vice signaling.

He's vice signaling.

That's all baste means to these people, by the way, vice signaling.

You know, oh it's ba Ted Bundy was based.

Yeah, Ted Bundy was based 'cause everyone thinks he's a bad guy.

So the bad guy's good because it's because 'cause that's what's based 'cause like everyone's oh, what are you, fucking liberal?

You don't like that guy who like kills and eats people and eats them alive?

You're such a fucking liberal.

Fucking retard.

What more do I need to fucking do to prove I don't I don't have the views that I do because I give a shit about what's conventional and accepted within establishments.

I think I've proven myself enough by fucking denying every atrocity they accuse communists of in history, fully exonerating Stalin, he really did nothing wrong, fully exonerating Mao, supporting every fucking so-called dictator in the world.

You think I give a fucking shit what mainstream conventional views are?

Clearly, clearly, my thoughts are formed independent of that.

I don't have to virtue signal to anyone.

So that's the difference between me and Vosh Nick Fuentes, you fucking idiot.

I'm not Vosh because I don't support the Democrats.

I'm not Vosh because I believe in the independence and integrity of a worldview.

I'm not Vosh because I don't fucking support NATO, you fucking idiot.

You know the thing that actually matters?

You fucking retard?

You think what matters is how much you vice signal to a bunch of fucking basement dwelling jacking off retards on the fucking internet?

What matters is your stance on NATO, you fucking idiot!

They don't care about anything but that, by the way.

The only reason they were clamping down on the alt-right is because they were worried that Russia was backing them.

They said as much.

All they care about is defending the imperial hegemony.

The actual concrete fucking system, you retard.

But who's the system?

Why can't I just fucking reduce that to some bones and flesh incarnated in a fucking visceral ethnic group?

Therefore, it's not concrete enough.

Because for them, the concrete is the flesh and bone of some fucking individual down to their fucking microscopic DNA strands.

And it's just so tangible and fleshy.

And, you know, you're a fucking pervert is what you are.

You're not a fucking Catholic.

You're an Anglo-metaphysician who conflates your fucking twisted, angloid, racialistic, Calper fucking skull measuring.

Salivating at the fucking tongue at the fucking warm fleshy meat.

That's what you consider substance, you vulgar bitch.

Where's the fucking spirituality in your worldview?

Where's the soul?

You know, you're the one who claims to not be a materialist.

You don't, you think the only concrete.

Reality is biological self-interest, you fucking retard.

You know the Catholic Church would behead you and burn you at the stake for your heretical retarded worldview.

Who is the concrete ruling class?

It's literally superficial.

The fucking people who own your land and own your factories and your wealth and your oil and your energy and your fucking banks.

Most of them aren't Jews.

It doesn't matter what ethnicity they are.

It's like this guy walks into a fucking room and their wife is getting fucked by some man, and the first thing he wants to know is what religion and what ethnicity that man is.

He's fucking your wife.

Is that not bad enough?

Is debt slavery not bad enough?

Is capitalist exploitation not bad enough?

Why does it fucking matter what their religion and ethnicity is?

Is it not bad enough that they brought the people of this country and the world to their knees, to the almighty fucking dollar?

Is that not bad enough?

Is it not bad enough that they strip the people of their dignity, strip them of their homes, their livelihood?

Put them in fucking debt?

Giving them nothing, no hope?

Crush their spirit, crush their morale?

Is that not bad enough?

Telling them they need to reduce their populations and their breeding too much?

And they're killing the planet because there's too many of them?

Is it not bad enough?

Is the inhumanity, is the inhumanity and Satanism of capitalism itself not bad enough?

Why does it matter if some of them are Jews?

I don't care if the devil's a Jew or a Catholic.

If he engages in devilish business, he's a fucking devil.

Do we need to say that OnlyFans is bad just because a Catholic might not be running it?

You think Catholics are incapable of evil?

Is that what you think?

Then why was there a Protestant Reformation, you dumb bitch?

You think only Jews can do evil?

You think even the majority of evil people are Jews?

Kind of fucking Christian are you?

For all the wickedness that Jesus accused his fellow Jews, for all the wickedness he accused of them, the whole purport, the whole message of Jesus Christ was that he forgives them.

Because they know not what they do.

You glossed over that part though, didn't you?

You glossed over the part

Where evil doesn't come from lineage.

Jesus canceled the fucking debts of lineage.

He canceled the debts of the past.

He canceled the debts of people's lineage, of the burden of the past.

That's what he freed the people from.

And that is why he forgave the wickedness of the people around him.

Precisely because his message was the opposite of yours.

Retard and VC.

How can you defend the retardation of your leader?

Go.

Eight hearing?

Yeah.

Yo, yo, has wh what's up, bro?

How's it going, man?

Fuck you.

What's his beef you got with Nick, man?

What's going on?

Why is it going to be a bit of a nice thing?

Check your fucking gay little Telegram groups to find out.

Hey, but here's my question has how many people died in the Holocaust?

What's the number?

What do you think?

Is it six million?

I better not say six million or they're gonna cancel me.

They're gonna I'm not vice signaling.

I'm just curious.

Is that what you fucking think is gonna happen here?

What is your opinion?

What is your opinion?

Stop dodging the question.

What is your opinion?

My opinion is that you're a bitch and your leader's a fucking coward.

What you dodging dodge me?

You want to defend?

You can't even answer a single question, you pussy.

Come on, bro.

I think the number was 5.99999 million.

Wow, so sarcasm.

So you're gonna dodge it?

You're a couple of people?

No, no, it wasn't actually.

Guys, why is it illegal to question this event in so many different countries in Europe?

Why?

I have no reason.

Why is it illegal?

Do you agree that it should be illegal or should people be allowed to question it without going to jail?

What's your opinion?

I'm an American.

I don't believe in restricting that in America.

And if I lived in Europe, I probably wouldn't believe it.

You think in Europe it should be legal to question it?

I'm not a fucking European, you fucking cosmopolitan retarded dude.

But based on principle, based on the principle, your principle is that it should be illegal.

I already told you, I don't fucking believe.

In censoring people.

Are you principled?

Do you care about free speech?

Open debate?

Open discussion?

Do you care about it or not?

How did I violate Nick Fuentes' little bitch free speech?

How did I violate his free speech?

But we agree that so we agree that you're not going to answer the question.

You're going to dodge it.

You're a coward.

Listen.

I believe it was $6 million.

And if you want to deny that, take it up with Marr, who will fucking wipe the floor with you or any of your friends.

Okay, but h here here's my here's my issue has.

Okay, let's hear another one out there.

Who did 9-11?

Was it Muslims?

It was the fucking CIA, you retard.

It was the CIA, so Larry Silverstein, w did you work for the CIA?

The CIA did 9-11.

Next question.

You don't want to touch that.

You don't want to touch Larry Silverstein, do you?

You know who that is?

See, I got to make this guy off.

You're already listening, you bitch.

To be fucking clear, because this guy keeps interrupting me at every fucking turn, every time I try to say something, you little fucking pussy.

Don't worry, I'll unmute you.

All you're doing here, you're not making arguments.

You're not articulating an argument.

You're throwing out names.

You're throwing out talking points and vice signaling talking points and trying to get me on something so you could share with your gay little fucking group.

Why don't you articulate a fucking point?

Do I believe that Jews were exclusively responsible for 9-11?

No.

Could some Jews through the Mossad have been involved?

Absolutely.

The Mossad, in collusion with the CIA and the MI6, and the Western-led intelligence networks and deep states of the world, fucking coordinated that.

I say the CIA because that's the main fucking umbrella.

But the U.S.

deep state in collusion with the British and the Israelis definitely were responsible.

That's my fucking view.

Now, exactly what do you find to be a problem with that worldview?

Because you can name some guy named Larry Silverstein and we can look up all these different kinds of fucking names of people who were connected and they're definitely not all Jewish.

So go ahead.

Well, I think just for the audience, it's very weak that this man has to mute me and then go on a monologue.

We can't have a discussion.

Do I get permission to speak now?

Because this is a fair debate, right?

Are you going to shut up?

If you don't get to a fucking point, I'm going to mute you.

So you keep making commentary, I'll mute you.

Get to a point.

Make it commentary.

Let me make my point.

Larry Silverstein, who is he great friends with?

Metanyahu.

You would think it would be a natural thing for someone like you to come out and say, yeah, Israel was behind 9-11, but oh, you run from it.

Oh, it was the CIA.

Oh, Israel had nothing to do with it.

Larry Silverstein is a CIA agent.

Dude, you run.

Let's break this down logically.

Hey, let's break this down logically.

Hey, faggot, shut your fucking mouth.

If you were with me in person right now, I'd slap the shit out of you for how you're fucking talking.

You can hide behind your gay little fucking voice changer all you want, but you're in my fucking VC right now.

If you don't know how to talk and let me get my fucking word, and I'm going to mute you like the rabid rabies at the mouth, phobing little bitch animal chihuahua that you fucking are.

So shut your little bitch faggot ass mouth up.

So first of all.

What makes you think I'm scared to say if I believe that it was solely the case that only Israel did 9-11?

Do I think Israel was involved?

Absolutely.

But at this point, when I'm already considered an anti-Semite and a neo-Nazi by all these fucking ADL, all these Zionist groups, what do I have to lose by refusing to believe the retarded idea that Israel exclusively was responsible for 9-11 when I have so much other reason to believe that vested interests in the oil industry and in the military-industrial complex, who are not primarily owned by Jews, by the way, had so much to gain from 9-11 and the U.S.

involvement in the Middle East to control the monopoly on the international oil market?

Why wouldn't I fucking believe that they also had a reason to be involved?

Why should I only believe that Israel was involved?

Because clearly I don't fucking care about being canceled for saying that.

So you're going to fucking come here and say I'm too scared to say that it was just Israel.

You sound like a fucking retard.

Because what am I fucking scared of, you stupid bitch?

Go ahead.

What am I fucking scared of?

Bro, you're trying the t this tough guy act.

It doesn't work.

Faggot, shut your mouth.

You want to see a tough guy?

If I saw you in person, I'd slap the fucking shit out of you and you'd shut your mouth.

You wouldn't talk this way in person, so don't talk this way in my fucking VC.

Get to a fucking point and respond to me.

Why am I scared of exclusively saying it's Israel?

And what is wrong with what I just said?

That other people were also involved.

Why is that wrong?

Because you're vice signaling and you're saying, oh, how did they not saying the base thing?

That'll get you canceled.

But so there's no room for me to disagree with it without you fucking retards claiming that I lack integrity and I'm too scared.

You know how fucking stupid and porn outled you fucking sound?

You know what lack of intellect you're betraying and evincing right now?

You can't even fucking think shit through.

It's either virtue signaling or vice signaling for you.

That's it.

Your little fucking crypto bubble's gonna crash, no wonder.

It's not even fucking thawed out.

Go ahead.

Man, I I just can't believe that you keep muting me, man.

You're talking all this shit.

You're either going to respond with the point or I'm going to continue to humiliate you and mute you.

I'm going to unmute you.

You need to immediately get to whatever point you want to get to.

All this meta commentary on your bitch made status, your lack of integrity and honor within this debate is immaterial to me.

I'm going to unmute you right now and I'm going to give you a fucking opportunity to get a fucking point in.

Go ahead.

You literally just said, why should I say it's only Israel when already people are calling me a neo-Nazi and I have the ADL after me?

What did you just admit?

You don't want the smoke with the Jewish lobby, bro?

You're fucking afraid of it.

You're running from the truth.

You know who runs from the truth?

A coward.

A man with no virtue.

A man with no integrity.

You're running from the truth.

You're making up all these explanations.

You'll do anything.

to not admit the thing that's staring you in the face.

And I'm not conceded.

I exposed you with two questions.

Two questions.

I'm going to let you respond to this because you didn't respond to it.

Why would I be afraid?

Go ahead.

Why would I be afraid to arrive at that conclusion?

That only Israel did it.

You literally just said you already have the ADL breathing down your neck calling you I don't have them breathing down my neck you fucking inbred retard.

They it doesn't make a difference to them what my position on this is because they come to the same conclusion either way.

The only fucking reason I am not as canceled as your dear fucking leader who by the way went unabated for years with no cancellation is because I'm not prominent enough yet.

You fucking moron?

But go ahead, explain to me why I would be scared when it makes no difference.

Okay, well I'll just tell you this.

Do you s do you see this immigration?

Like do you see how all these countries are being transformed through mass immigration?

Like do you do you witness that?

What's your opinion on it?

What do you mean what is my opinion on it?

What's your opinion on it?

What is your opinion?

I think it's terrible.

I think it's a crime against humanity.

What are you going to do about it?

So what are you going to do about it?

Do you think it's a good thing or a negative thing?

Do you think it's a positive thing for the world or a negative thing for the world?

Do you want Europe to exist?

Do you want the West to exist?

It's not my responsibility for your to exist.

This guy's father never beat him when he was a child.

You could tell.

You could tell by the tone of their voice, he had one of those uh one of those fucking what do they call those parents that just let their kids do whatever the fuck they want.

He's got that retarded porn brain mentality where he asks a yes or no question and I have to respond to him on in terms of F you!

Who the fuck are you to come into my shit and demand of me I address your fucking question exactly on your terms, yes or no?

Now, you ask me what I think of immigration.

Whether I think it's positive or I think it's negative.

I think you're a fucking retarded, brainless bitch.

If that is the extent of your thought on the matter, positive or negative, it's a fact.

It's happening.

It doesn't matter if you think it's good.

It doesn't matter if you think it's bad.

What are you going to fucking do about it?

How does your understanding of the world

Have enough integrity and enough coherence to put you into a position in which you could meaningfully challenge that phenomena and ameliorate its bad effects.

That is what you can't answer because it would require you to be articulate.

It would have to take you out of this groiper, retard, soup-brained, vice-signaling nonsense and actually fucking think about it.

You don't challenge capitalism.

You don't actually challenge the sources of mass migration.

Your fucking leader himself admitted that he has no problem with European imperialism and NATO and all that shit.

He just has a problem with some Jews in some high places, and that's it.

You have no fucking problem with the dynamics of capitalism where they have to import mass migrant slave underclass labor to destroy the organized power of labor in the country.

You have no problem with any of those things.

So, why should I give a fuck for you to come here and whine to me about mass migration when you have done nothing, not only done nothing, to address the cause of the phenomena, but even to meaningfully articulate its sources?

You haven't even meaningfully articulated the cause of mass migration to me.

Why should I give a fuck to respond to you and your vice-signaling echo chamber on this matter?

Who the fuck are you?

Who the fuck are you?

That's my question.

I'm a random griper and I showed up and I fucking cooked your ass and I exposed ones in the chat if I stole the manhood of this little bitch and he's a eunuch for the rest of his life.

Go ahead.

'Cause pop it's a popularity contest in your brain.

Look at my fucking chat.

Look at my fucking chat.

It's a popularity contest for you, right?

For your lot.

Look at my chat.

This is what the world thinks of you.

This is what history thinks of you.

This is what

I won't go that far.

Let's not be blasphemous.

I'll leave that to him in the hereafter for to judge you.

But look at this chat, everyone thinks you got fucking wrecked.

So before you declare victory, let's return to the substance.

Because I'm giving you an opportunity to articulate what mass migration is and what's the cause of mass migration.

Can you answer that?

I just think it's funny man because you called me in here for a debate.

What is the cause?

A debate is not a QA where you ask me yes or no questions.

Who the fuck are you, you fucking cockroach?

You think you're a fucking cop and you're interrogating me for your fucking Groiper friends?

Who the fuck are you, huh?

I will break, I will fucking corp stomp your little bitch ass.

Who the fuck are you coming here to me trying to fucking interview me like you're a fucking police detective and you have me in a fucking holding cell?

Who the fuck are you?

You wanna fucking debate me?

Debate me.

I'm not gonna fucking answer your little stupid questions, you little bitch.

Thinks a fucking Q and A yes or no is a debate, you stupid fucking soup brain retard.

Honestly, has I don't even dislike you.

Like, I think you're funny.

I think you're suck my cock and grovel after I dominated you.

I dominated you.

I stole your manhood.

And you're tempted to become my number one cocksucker.

Why?

Because it's in your nature.

Because the reason you follow Nick Fuentes is because he is at the top of a hierarchy that bullies the underlings into submission and they're all just bullying each other to keep everyone in line.

And that's it.

I just completely insulted you to your core and now you sympathize with me because you only respond to the language of force and dominance.

That is how bitch made you are.

You came in here with absolutely no fucking respect.

Only until I fucking cooked you on a stove and turned you into burnt meat did you fucking sit here and start groveling at my feet and talking about how much you like me.

You are such a bitch.

You've disgraced your own community.

How dishonorable.

If we're gonna have a debate, you gotta let me talk, man, 'cause you you don't even want to touch points.

I've given you multiple opportunities to talk on the substance.

Now, once again, you asked me about mass immigration.

I think the cause of mass immigration is capitalism, and if you don't meaningfully articulate an anti-Atlanticist, anti hegemony and anti-capitalistic outlook, you have no fucking right to grandstand about issues like mass immigration.

That's my view.

Okay, you're funny, but you can't debate for shit.

I'm fucking wrecking you, you're running?

I'm asking you a question.

Who are you to ask me a question?

Are you a police interrogator?

Who are you to ask me a question?

That's not a debate.

Debate something.

What do you want to debate?

I'm literally getting your opinion for where you're coming from with your politics and your position.

I'm gauging how you view the world.

That's part of a debate you fucking reit-

So you don't know enough about me to debate me.

Is that what you're saying?

You don't know enough about me to debate me.

Because that's what it sounds like.

You don't know enough about my actual worldview to actually debate me.

Keith Woods knows where I stand on this, so does Nick Fuentes.

That's why they respond to me and reply to me because they're so fucking scared of how powerful my worldview is.

But what about you?

Why do you want to debate me if you don't even know what my position is?

Literally asked me what I think the cause of mass migration is.

You asked me a question.

I asked you a question.

It's a bit debate, you fucking retard man.

You're I asked you a question back to explain to you you don't even know what my position is because if you did you wouldn't have the views that you do have.

You wouldn't view this under a racial lens like you do.

So I asked you what you think the causes are Socratically so I could walk you through why you're fucking wrong you fucking idiot.

I already know what you think the causes are.

That's the thing.

It's a Socratic question.

I know you think the cause is the Jews.

And I know you think what mass migration, the primary thing that it's doing is it's diluting the purity of the DNA of the race.

That's what you think.

I already know what your views are.

You don't know what my views are, but I know what yours are.

You understand?

So I'm giving you the opportunity to.

Say that so I could actually dismantle and destroy your worldview.

Go ahead.

I don't know your views 'cause you're fucking irrelevant.

I just saw you spurting I'm irrelevant, so why why n forget forget you being in my V C.

Your number one leader, Nick Fuentes, is fucking with me on Twitter.

You're all coordinating to make sure your leader ratios me on Twitter, right?

Why if I'm irrelevant?

Why is Keith Woods posting clips of me if I'm irrelevant?

If I'm irrelevant, why have you come to why have your leaders come before me?

Unprovoked.

You're the one who disappeared.

Everybody.

Why did Keith Woods come before me on my throne, even though I did not beckon or summon him?

If I'm irrelevant, go ahead.

And you know what's funny when Nick ratios people, he doesn't retweet his fucking reply, you have to retweet it, everybody please, Discord, please!

Do I need to show you the receipts on stream of how you guys all fucking have your little gay juice nonsense you do in your telegrams?

Because let's not fucking go there.

Yeah, I fucking use all of the avenues I have available to me to get an edge on the algorithm because we're facing a fucking uphill battle and yes, I have a small community.

So yes, every single one of my fucking followers I mobilize so that my views can be heard.

Because if they want my views to be heard because they believe it's true, of course we're gonna organize for my voice to be fucking heard.

Because it's not just that it's my voice, it's my message they want to be heard.

Because there's been a deliberate effort, because it's the same fucking reason your leaders won't debate me.

Because they're trying to suppress my message, which fucking destroys and demolishes your entire outlook and your entire world view.

So, yeah, we have to fucking work hard to boot.

You think I'm fucking ashamed of that?

I'll be the first to say it.

You think you think I can grow organically?

You think that's possible?

There's no such thing.

You think a communist who's anti NATO is gonna be able to just get away with that?

You pathetic bro, you can only talk behind a mute, you can only fucking monologue, I wrecked you, you're a fucking puss.

What what okay, you want to debate about it?

Why do you think the Jews are responsible for mass migration?

Based on what evidence?

Let's start with there.

Are you gonna let me talk or are you gonna mute me?

Because you're acting like a I'm gonna unmute you and you're gonna directly respond to me or you're gonna get muted again.

Unmuted.

How much time do I get to speak?

You're muted again.

Once again, I'm going to unmute you.

You're going to directly respond, or you're being muted.

Go ahead.

I can't make a point if you mean me You're such a pussy.

You're such a pussy.

You are so scared to debate.

You're so scared to debate.

Just fucking make your point.

Why do you think the Jews are responsible for mass migration?

Go ahead.

How long am I scared to debate?

You're the one hiding behind a mute every five seconds, you fuck.

And you're hiding behind a fucking voice changer.

Did you forget that?

Did you forget, you know, how does it even, how does the vice signaling even count if you're not gonna like get yourself, you know, censored and attacked?

You're like, I'm scared that I'm gonna lose my job over this.

But that's what you're always like vice signaling about.

How much, you know, when you say shit that's stepping on people's toes and offending them, it's gonna make it so that you're gonna be less accepted by society.

It's like, but why are you muted?

Why are you using a voice changer then?

Once again, make your fucking argument or you're getting muted.

Go ahead.

I'm not a public figure.

I work professionally.

So make your fucking argument or you're getting muted.

Go ahead.

There you go, I just answered your question and Make your argument about why you think the Jews are behind mass migration.

Go ahead.

I think the Jews are behind mass migration because you're a fucking pussy and you can't let me talk for ten seconds about me and you So there you have it.

That's the extent of his argument.

That's the extent of his argument.

There you go.

I mean, what else is there to talk about?

What else is there to talk about?

There you go.

So you're saying the reason why you think the Jews are behind mass migration is because I'm muting you.

Well, before tonight, I wasn't muting you.

So is your view that Jews have not been behind mass migration until tonight?

Go ahead, answer that.

Look, even your own chat is saying to kick me 'cause I'm fucking ripping your asshole up.

Look at that fan look at that very specific uh fantasy he just had.

Look at that.

That's pretty crazy.

Who who where where did that come from?

Where did that come from?

So you so admit it, you have no arguments.

We can't even debate.

You know if this is a real debate where we guy, he's a pussy who has no arguments.

Let's bring up Sam24.

Go ahead.

Yeah, I could hear you.

Lovely, lovely, lovely.

Right, um, I'm gonna preface this.

I don't fuck with Nick Fuentes.

That geezer has always rubbed me up the wrong way with all the uh stuff about him.

But I did see the uh

If if you're not w then why what are we debating about?

Then what are we fucking debating about?

You know, it's kind of crazy.

It's like, you don't fuck with Nick Fuentes.

So, what are we debating about?

Pretty incredible, huh?

Pretty incredible.

So where where are they?

Where are the people who are actually going to debate?

Where are they at?

Where are they at?

Jayska with the 45.

Wow.

What's going on, Jayska?

The 45.

Wow.

Wow.

Holy shit!

An what the fuck?

Holy shit!

Another 45 from Jayska!

Holy fuck!

We are super fucking high energy today.

Jayska, what's going on, man?

Anyway, Stralistani, what's up?

That's what these people they do that vice signaling.

This is such a forbidden world.

See, listen, you get to a point where it's not about whether this view is spicy and it's a spicy little forbidden view, like it's a forbidden fruit.

Communists don't have forbidden views.

We don't have untouchable topics.

We don't have we believe in what Marx said, the ruthless criticism of all things unconditionally.

So if I reject racism, it's not because I'm afraid of the arguments of the racists or afraid to arrive at those conclusions myself.

Crass, what's going on?

User Tom, what's going on?

We're not afraid of them.

We recognize if we are American communists, if we are American Communists, you are not gonna build a unified nation by stepping on the toes of every non-white and non-European in origin racial group.

In this country, that is not how you're going to build a unified popular front and a unified national awakening.

Now that's a very concrete, direct to the point statement that I'm making.

You wanna fucking cancel me over it?

You wanna cancel me over that?

Let's continue.

I said something very simple.

And also, he goes, What's there in you and Vosh?

The fact that the only significance of Vosh in your eyes, Joe Sislak, what's going on?

Is that, see, see, he's making it seem like you have to go out of your way not to be a fucking Nazi.

Like, unless you're.

Literal Adolf Hitler

you know, nonsense that you're you you're somehow forcing that.

But the onus is on you to force that your belief is correct.

You haven't done that.

I don't find your view convincing or persuasive.

He goes, organized Jewish power.

Even if that was a real thing, that that is what is like controlling everything, right?

Even if there was a significant organized Jewish power, let's just concede to you that there was for the sake of argument.

It wouldn't it wouldn't be able to be exercised if not for the fact that we have a system in which the private interest dominates the common interest.

We live in a capitalist system or a system controlled

By capitalist institutions which are not accountable to any popular sovereignty.

So it's popular sovereignty that matters, it's the supremacy of the common interest that matters concretely and tangibly.

Not focusing on whether there's some groups here or there taking advantage.

of the state of affairs, but the state of affairs itself

By the way, this is conceding, for the sake of argument, these claims that they're making about the Jews, even if it was true.

It still wouldn't matter.

If you want to ma sit here and claim the root cause of it is Judaism, you're wrong.

Judaism wasn't behind the enclosures in England where peasants were robbed of their means of production and herded into fucking factories.

Jews weren't behind that.

Jews weren't behind the same thing that happened in Germany and in France.

Jews weren't behind the indebtedness of the French peasant that forced them off their land, proletarianized them, made them wage slaves.

Jews were not behind the merciless cruelty of the capitalist mode of production and its ruthlessness.

Jews weren't behind all of these genocides and looting and plunder across the fucking world through capitalist colonialism.

People venturing out to turn a fucking dime.

Barbarically looting and liquidating entire civilizations.

Jews weren't behind that.

Everything bad is because of the Jews.

Really?

Really?

It seems like you're coping.

You see, you know why I reject that?

Because I could see the evil in your fucking eyes.

That's why I've always rejected these far-right guys.

They've always told me, Haz, come to us, come to us.

And we're but I see the fucking evil in your eyes.

I see the wickedness inside of you.

You're coping.

You want to sit here and say, Oh, the Jews, the Jews.

No, but I see it in you.

I see it in you.

I see the snake inside you.

I see your snake-like depravity, your evil, your wickedness, and your sin.

I see it in you.

I see it in you.

And I witness I witness how these cannibals cannibalize each other.

I see the cruelty with which they treat each other, how they fuck each other over and do all this twisted, fucked up shit.

I see the dynamics of how their little cohesion is maintained, and I want nothing to fucking do with it.

There's a wickedness and there's an evil.

There's an evil and a wickedness.

Antichrist.

Antichrist.

It bears the mark of the fucking Antichrist.

All the holy books warn you about these devils in sheep's clothing.

That's exactly what I'm getting out of this.

That's exactly what I see.

Evil.

Evil.

Nobody else gets the impression something's wrong here.

Oh, all this stuff about racial cannibalism and all these races are subhuman and we need to get rid of drive these people out.

You know, black Americans are lesser because they're lower IQ and they're not all this stuff.

You don't see there's something fucking twisted about this shit?

Where it's going?

Where is this headed?

Tell me where this was headed.

This this pagan swastika they have.

What the fuck is that shit?

This pagan S S Ruinic Druidic you know.

Thelema shit, Theosophy stuff.

What the fuck is that coming from?

Something wrong is going on.

Something twisted.

Something twisted is going on.

You know?

What's going on with those German castles and all those Belgian fucking journalists who got killed and all those people who said they're doing all these rituals in these German castles in Europe, raping children and shit, doing fucking blood rituals?

And then all these journalists just get killed and disappear in the Dutreau affair.

What's going on with the Dutreau affair?

High-ranking NATO officials were involved.

The NATO Secretary.

People hearing screams coming out of those German castles that the SS always used to frequent.

Huh.

Huh, and they want me to fall in line and join this stuff.

Huh, I don't think so.

Something wicked, something's wicked and twisted about it.

Something's wicked, all of them, even Keith Woods.

There's just something wicked and twisted about these.

It's like they, I can, you know that.

Trying to think of where this is from.

It's like they've there's like a little demon inside of them, and every time they get an opportunity to be cannibals, racial can, it's like their eyes light up, and it's like they're getting off on it, they're getting off on the cannibalism, you know, torture.

Call people subhuman and exterminate them.

It's like they get a kick out of it, you know?

They get a fucking kick out of it.

Like Ted Bundy style shit, you know?

Ted Bunk fucking uh John Wayne Gacy type of nonsense.

Look what I say.

Yeah, I believe.

He goes, you think the West is controlled by capitalists rather than Jewish people?

Yeah, I believe the actual people who own the fucking means of.

You know what that means?

The means of production.

The means of production.

The means by which everything is produced, that we feed ourselves and shelter ourselves and clothe ourselves.

Everything we need to survive.

The people who own that, the capitalist class, control the West.

That's what I believe, yes.

But he's trying to set this up and make it seem like it's self-evidently wrong and absurd.

And look what I say.

This was a nuke.

I didn't expect him to respond to this nuclear bomb because how can he?

I mean, this is all you need to say.

You're a white nationalist Catholic integralist in a country where most whites are Protestant and most Catholics are brown.

Uh, that's a nuclear bomb.

I don't even know what for what I need to say beyond that.

He goes, and who controls the banking cartels, genius?

You know, Nick Fuentes, I got him to concede in that, and when he was on Zerka's stream when he was brought on, that he doesn't even think the majority of the people who control these are Jews.

I got him to admit that.

Because that's why he's not saying it.

Neo-Nazis?

You didn't.

They don't.

No, they're not the neo-Nazis.

They're the fucking archaeo-Nazis.

They're the actual fucking.

Theosophist, occultist, Satanist who fucking bankrolled the Nazis in the first place, you retard.

these old dynastic families in Europe.

I n look what this shit he says.

I know you might feel like a genius being around Jackson Hinkle all the time, but next to me or Keith, you are as dumb as the average leftist like Vosch or Destiny.

Where does the posturing come from?

Fucking prove it.

Why don't you fucking debate me then and prove it?

What does this have to do with intelligence?

You think you need to be smart to squeal about Jews?

You think that takes intelligence?

Look what he says.

You are you are dumb compared to me or Keith.

Keith steals his shit from me.

Why do you think Keith was watching my YouTube?

Nick Fuentes to k to clip my stuff.

Keith Woods, he's writing sub stacks about me.

He's stealing my Twitter threads.

He's even trying to steal our talking points.

The other day, you know, someone sent me, he's trying to talk about now.

Oh, actually, you know fucking Keith Woods is trying to talk about financial capitalism now?

Because of us and deindustrialization and industrial ca uh you know, industrial uh economics and stuff.

And he's just stealing it from us.

Keith Woods is a pseudo intellectual who rips off everything from me.

He he's looking

Everything that he's looking for to give his worldview an edge, he steals it from me.

He's literally a tether.

Stole my Karl Popper thread.

He's some great intellectual.

How?

You know, Keith Woods debated me on China and I wiped the floor with him on China 'cause he tried to say China was fascist.

I wiped the floor with him.

But then he started bringing up uh

That he he had prepared before him the Turner Guy's book on the Nazis in Germany.

I didn't prepare for that topic and bring all the evidence and the names, but even then, throughout that debate, I still wiped him.

On the question of the pre-nineteen thirty-two circle of German bankers and and capitalists who backed Hitler before nineteen thirty two.

But he won't debate me.

He won't debate me again.

I mean, I won't I shouldn't even say again because the first time was just about China.

On the substantive issues that he's gibbering about, he won't debate me.

What's wrong with reparations?

What's wrong with reparations?

Yo, what up Vi, how you doing?

I said the majority aren't Jews.

I could prove that in a debate.

And this is so fucking true.

It's like he believes in a right-wing version of DEI.

He just wants to have quotas for white Catholics.

He does nothing to actually address or challenge the system.

And then he goes, you're not the Catholic Church, though, Nick Fuentes.

You do nothing to actually critique the system.

You do nothing to critique the actual ownership.

You do nothing to fucking critique the monopolies.

I've never seen you do it.

You've never done it.

You've never fucking done it.

You've never.

As a matter of fact, I'm pretty sure I could produce evidence of him saying before that he thinks that stuff doesn't matter.

He's like, I don't care about capitalism or socialism.

I just care about Jews.

There you go.

And he calls me ignorant and washed and out of my depth.

You're not the Catholic Church.

And you can claim all you want that reactionaries don't support free market capitalism, but reactionaries have historically always ran cover for and supported the actual fucking capitalists.

Whether you want to call them free market or not is irrelevant.

You support reparations and deny the existence of organized Jewry.

I support reparations.

Do I deny that there's uh organized Jewish groups and even like networks of Jews who nepotistically fucking have each other's back?

They probably exist.

Why the fuck not?

But the idea that you can somehow establish a meaningful relationship.

To the system that we have in opposing it or challenging it, by hyper-focusing on that fact is fucking retarded.

Yeah, I don't deny there's there by the way, there's organized there's organized Muslims, there's organized fucking Episcopalans.

I mean, there's nothing there's nothing extraordinary about there being organized Jewry, but you know the Jews are fucking fighting each other, right?

The Soros Jews.

Versus the J Street Jews, the backed by Soros, that's what I meant.

The J Street Jews versus the fucking Netanyahu Jews.

APAC versus J Street.

Liberal Jews versus the fucking right-wing ones.

You know, Reform Jews versus the Orthodox Jews.

You don't fucking know this because he calls me ignorant and washed.

If you knew anything about Jews, if you knew anything about Jews, you know that every fucking Jew I've talked to who's like a Jewish

Religious like ideologists or political ideologists, like someone who's actually like a Jewish identity guy, every single one of them.

No one, there's no one they have more beef with.

No one they have more beef with than another faction of Jews.

And it's without fucking exception.

Every single Jew that I know.

For whom Jewish identity is a relevant factor in their political or religious outlook, there is no other faction of people that they have more beef with than other fucking Jews.

If you don't know that, you don't know anything about Jews.

You fucking know nothing about them.

Jewish religious solidarity is only as strong.

As the divisions that lead them to start tearing each other apart over theology and, you know.

What they think is best for the Jewish, all this kind of stuff.

That's you don't understand that dynamic because you fucking know nothing about the topic.

And I said something very simple.

I said, the Catholic Church, since he wants to mention that, also condemns racism.

But that doesn't stop you from adopting it.

Look what he says.

Now you're squealing about racism.

Lao, enough said.

So this is the argument of a pussy.

who has no integrity and has no argument.

They're just vice signalling.

They're voice signaling to lost teenagers and bullied retards.

Retards, you know, who were bullied in high school.

Literal, like I mean mentally special needs.

Not kidding.

That's it, he doesn't need to debate me because he has no principles.

It's it suffices for me to reject racism.

for him to discredit me to his audience.

No honor.

When have I ever denied a debate to someone who challenged my views?

There's no honor.

By the way, am I being hyperbolic to call Nick Fuentes a racist?

Nick Fuentes believes that black people are inferior.

Now he won't admit that, but on everything that makes us human, which is our capacity to build civilizations and transform nature in conformity with our humanity.

to organize societies, to be social beings.

On everything that makes us human, Nick Fuentes regards black people as less than white people.

And that's a fact.

And by doing that, he is insulting their dignity and he's stepping on their toes.

And don't ask me, ask them.

He's stepping on their toes.

Let me tell you something.

Let me tell you something.

He never said that.

When I talked to Nick Fuentes, he told me directly he doesn't think Africans have the aptitude to build civilizations and technology.

That's what he told me.

So go fucking back and play the VOD.

That is his view.

That is his view.

So I want you to think logically because Nick Fuentes is supposedly a genius.

Nick Fuentes is supposedly a genius, right?

But let's actually play that back and take this logic to its conclusion.

If Nick Fuentes' movement ever came to any significance and prominence, it's not the Jews, quote unquote.

whose toes are going to be the most stepped on.

Their toes are already be you know what's funny?

The so-called organized Jewish power, Zionist power, if that's what you're referring to, doesn't even care about the rise of Hitlerism.

You know, I have Jewish friends and I asked them, I said,

Even then, I was like, guys, you know, everyone's always saying Jews are in control of everything.

How could that be if, like, you know, are there no powerful Jews that are worried about like the rise of Hitler stuff and all this?

And he goes, no, no, they don't give a fuck about that.

I said, what?

He goes, yeah, all the Jews who are in positions of prominence and prestige and have like pull, all they care about is Israel.

They don't care about...

Holocaust denial.

They don't care about rehabilitating Hitler.

They don't care about white nationalism.

They don't care about racism.

They just care about pro-Israel stuff.

I said, wow.

That's interesting.

I said, that's really interesting.

So, organized Jewish power is not the toes you're going to be stepping on.

You're going to be stepping on the toes of the black people in this country.

You know, why was the media focusing on Charlottesville a lot?

You think it was because white liberals?

You think white liberals control the world?

No.

Actually, the reason white liberals are sensitive about racism is because it's their way of trying to manage the actual racial conflicts in this country that are real.

Black people have their own sense of dignity.

They have their own sense of history.

They have their own sense of a unique predicament.

They have their own communities and culture and family.

And when they turn on the TV and see the rise of the KKK and all this, you know, it's bringing, it's organic.

It's not an ideology, you know, that they're being under attack.

You're coming out here.

Saying that black people are low IQ and you know we can't have black people, they're all criminals, you're fucking stepping on their toes.

If your shit ever got anywhere near power, it'd be violence.

It'd be violence and rioting.

Black people, Mexicans, you fucking name it.

It would be pandemonium.

It would be race riots.

You think those people are gonna sit there lying down and and watch, you know.

Why do you think the ruling elite

You know, virtue signal against racism.

Think about it.

You think the ruling elite is anti-racist because they're sincere?

The ruling elite preaches anti-racism

Because they fucking know that race riots and racial instability and conflict is a very real possibility that could blow up like a powder keg this country from under them.

If the elites did not fear black people, why did the FBI infiltrate and dismantle every black power organization that's ever existed?

Why did they target and dismantle and destroy the Black Panther Party?

And why did they help kill Malcolm X and kill Martin Luther King?

Why did they do that?

The elites are racist.

You know, you you it's like these people, they're they're they're indulging in this kind of edginess and they think that they're challenging the system.

That's what all the people up top believe privately.

You're just saying it out in the open.

The reason they don't say it out in the open is because there's going to be fucking riots and violence.

Black people, if you remember what happened after World War two, started standing up and said, We're sick of being mistreated, we're sick of b our dignity and our honor.

Being attacked.

And so there were all this upheavals, all of this black power, you name it.

And the ruling elites, the status quo has to manage that.

It has to ameliorate that.

It has to tame and diffuse all the grievances.

If you step on the toes and insult the dignity of an entire people,

You will never build

an anti system, anti hegemony coalition.

You will never bring the people of this country together.

To overthrow the system and challenge the elites, whether they're Jews or whether they're not Jews, whether they're reptilians, it doesn't fucking matter.

You have no chance against any elites unless you unite and build a coalition of all of the major racial groups in this country.

That means you have to respect them.

You have to sacrifice and hear their perspective and hear them out and make compromises.

And there's no fucking way around it.

And why do I reject the anti-Jew stuff and the JQ stuff?

Because it's not anti-Zionism, it's racism.

It's the first stepping stone for them to open the door to racialization, politi racialization of politics, racial balkanization.

That's why I reject it, because they oppose Jews on racial grounds.

They believe all Jews are genetically disposed to something.

That's the stepping stone for them to come after black people, Mexicans, you fucking name it.

Not on my watch.

Not on my watch.

By the way, there's no white identity.

There's no international white identity.

There's no such thing.

Anyone who believes that white Americans and white Europeans somehow share the same nation is a traitor to their nation.

If you are a Frenchman and you believe that as a white Frenchman, the white American is your national kin, you are a traitor to France, and if you're an American who believes it, you're a traitor to America.

Maybe, maybe there can be a pan-European unity where Germans and French can all come together because they're shared history or whatever.

But this is a whole fucking new continent, okay?

This is America.

This is a whole new thing.

We

Are a totally different country that

was founded in large part by people who fled Europe to build something totally fucking new.

Totally fucking new.

And who didn't know where that would end up.

They didn't know where that would end up.

There was no clarity about where that road ends.

But they all knew they wanted to get out of Europe and leave Europe and face west.

Lionel, what's up?

If you want to be Europe, go back to Europe.

This is not Europe.

So the the Americans of European descent in this country are Americans.

They're Americans.

You know, these scumbags mock MAGA, and you know, they mock MAGA's uh.

Rejection of racism, they're always mocking the MAGA boomers who believe in multiracialism.

You know, they're always making memes of the MAGA boomer who's like, I don't care about color, we're all Americans, I don't care about race.

And they detest that and they mock it.

And they say that's cringe.

Well no, that's a fucking American patriot and you're a fucking traitor, an enemy of this fucking country.

You're an enemy of the purport of the possibility of an American nation.

If you want America to be a colony of Europe, just say that's what you believe.

But the purport of an American nation is distinct from a European nation, it's a different nation.

And the MAGA boomers are correct!

Look at this retard calling me a liberal.

He doesn't know his whole fucking racial ideology comes from liberalism.

Before liberalism, there was no such thing.

This retard is sitting here calling Genghis Khan a liberal.

He's calling Suleiman the Magnificent a liberal.

He's sitting here calling the fiercest, most ruthless nomadic conquerors in history liberals.

He's calling Cyrus the Great a liberal.

No, they're not liberals, you are.

Your whole ideology is from liberalism.

Unless you could name me a single great empire in history.

an organic, authentic empire in history, a single empire, great ancient empire in history.

That believed in racism, shut your fucking mouth about liberalism.

Look how these guys think that they win because they ratio.

They go, We're winning because you got ratioed.

You're stupid 'cause you disagreed with Nick Fuentes.

That's how they define stupidity.

But your leader won't debate me.

Isn't that curious?

Isn't it curious how your leader is not responding to the challenge?

To actually fucking debate.

Isn't that curious?

And they may pretend that they're ignoring this, but I know Keith Woods and all of you, I know you're watching and you're lurking and you're seeing all this.

You will have to debate me.

It will happen.

You don't have a choice in the matter, I can promise you.

Isn't that funny, Emirio?

Apparently on Nick Fuentes' stream they're banning all of my followers, but we didn't even ban any of theirs from mine.

Now who's scared of censorship?

Now who's scared?

This guy's named Hossam calling me a brown Muslim?

Do I have that?

His name is Hossam?

And he's calling me brown?

Did I read that correctly?

Do my eyes deceive me?

Do my eyes deceive me?

Do my eyes deceive me?

Fascinating.

No, no, no, I am Aryan.

No, no, no, no.

I am white.

Trust me, I am not.

I am white.

Trust me, I am white.

You know who you know what this reminds me of?

Remember when Rev angered the entire Hindufta Indians?

Like he angered like 800 million people with that thing he did, and they all came after me.

And it was just like a bunch of fucking retards, like flooding my shit with nonsense.

That's what this reminds me of.

Straight up.

They literally behave like Indians, nationalists, Hindufta.

They actually behave like that.

It's incredible.

That's how they operate and behave.

It's the same shit.

You're 30 IQ points less than Nick.

Okay, then have him debate me.

Then have him debate me.

Why is he so scared to debate?

It should be quick work, then, right?

Should be easy work.

Guy's name is Florida Catholic.

He's calling my skin brown.

First of all, what who cares?

Second of all, your name's Florida Catholic.

Should I talk like your leader?

Second of all, your name's Florida Catholic.

Your name's Florida Catholic.

Sounds like you're brown to me, buddy.

Sounds like you a Gusano out here.

Sounds like Castro.

Sounds like Castro.

Took something from your granddaddy.

Sounds like your grandpa got blown the fuck out by Castro, who mogged the shit out of you.

Sounds like Che Guevara was lining your people up, little bitch.

Florida Catholic.

The fuck does that mean?

Sounds like Castro got b has beef with you.

Who the fuck is this?

Who the fuck is this?

Yo, say something.

These people can't eat they don't even have mics.

These people don't even have mics.

Look at this dude, you don't even have a mic.

You're irrelevant.

Nick only debates famous people now.

A

Why the fuck did Nick Fuentes grovel?

Why did he come before me?

I was sitting on my throne and he came before me.

I didn't even summon him.

Nick Fuentes came to my throne, came before me.

I didn't even summon him.

Meaning, I wasn't even thinking about him, and he came before me.

No, no, this is rich.

And then Nick Fuentes, Jackson Hinkle has, what, 10 times the following as Nick?

And Nick was claiming Jackson should have to debate him.

Why would Jackson debate Nick Fuentes if Nick Fuentes won't debate me?

If his logic and reasoning is that I don't have enough followers, then why couldn't Jackson just use the same logic?

You know, think about it.

Think about it.

Why couldn't Jackson just use that same logic then?

Who are you?

I'm the guy he came and tried to fuck with and got blown the fuck out.

I'm the guy he came and responded to and replied to.

I'm the guy his buddy Keith Woods is posting a clip from my YouTube from.

That's me.

You see, I don't give a fuck about any of you.

They came to me.

They came before me.

That's who I am.

By the way, it's an open debate to any of you.

It's an open debate to any of you.

We're waiting for you to get in the show queue.

We're waiting for you to get in the show queue.

Jackson is botted.

He ratioed the fuck out of you.

How do you not understand you're a woman?

Oh, you're not a woman, that's an insult to women.

You're more like a deformed, freakish.

Twisted I mean you can't be called a man.

What is that?

Gossip girl You're a gossip girl.

He ratioed you?

Who gives a fuck about that?

Who get w does that stop Keith Woods from waking up in cold sweats at night about me?

Listen, if you think this is about numbers, you don't know how the industry works.

You think it's about numbers, that's not how the industry works.

You understand?

Both your boy Nick Fuentes and Keith Woods regard me as a fucking menace.

They regard me as a menace and they keep tabs on me because they fucking know.

They know how little their fucking numbers matter in my midst.

They know how little their numbers matter in my midst.

It doesn't matter with viewers and all this

You think it mattered when I had 50 viewers and I went and destroyed fucking Vosh in one night and Destiny and Xanderhall?

You think I gave a fuck about numbers?

Tell me, listen.

They think it's about numbers.

Chat, tell them how many chats we took over when I had 70 followers with Sun Gorillas, and how we hijacked entire fucking influencers and streamers with what?

We're literally a pirate crew of like 70 people that did that, and now we're much more than that.

But I digress.

One of us is 1,000 of you.

Never forget that.

One of my guys eats 100 of yours for breakfast.

One of my guys.

You know how much terror, you know how much anguish my people

Inspire and invoke in people, why do you think they won't debate me?

Look at my community.

Look no further than this community you see.

Show with the Sun Gorillas right now.

Show my power with the sun gorillas.

And do it fucking fast!

You see this enthusiasm, you see this belief, you see this dedication?

It comes from somewhere.

And the more exposure you give me, the more of a fucking opportunity you give me to fill my ranks.

and to expand my army.

And they know that and I know that and all of my people know that.

The dedication of one of my soldiers.

Not 500 of yours can match it.

We are one of the few communities on the internet that isn't botted.

Every single person you see is a real person who really and genuinely is committed and dedicated to this.

Every single one of them, you see them, every single one, it's a unique person.

There's no bots.

Imagine if we were bought it, how big we'd be.

And all of them bought their shit.

All of them.

It's a standard practice and I don't fucking do it.

Your communities, they're scattered, they're disarrayed, they don't have unity, they're based on corruption.

They lack honor.

They lack honor as the foundation, the glue that bonds your people together.

We are the fucking Mongols, bitch.

You think Genghis Khan had numbers?

Starting out, he had what?

He was outnumbered twenty to one.

And it's the cohesion, it's the belief, it's the dedication that scatters armies twenty times bigger to the wind.

Guerrillas, they'll come after me with everything they fucking got.

You think I care?

My people will come after you twenty times harder.

This is a beehive, you can't get off your fucking back without banning and blocking all of them.

And trust me, it's what 99% of people do.

Keith Woods blocks so many of my followers.

Ones if Keith Woods have blocked you.

It's so common.

It's so common.

They just block all my people, all of my ops, all of my opponents, all of them block my people for a reason.

Yeah, because we actually believe this shit.

Like, we actually believe it.

'Cause we're not intelligent?

The average literacy rate of My followers are philosophers and poets and intellectuals and scientists and engineers.

We are literally we are the the Mongol army Renaissance men.

You understand?

You don't have a single Kareem in your community.

You don't have a single Volk Vulture in your community.

You don't have a single Rev.

You don't have a single one of our fucking people in your communities.

You don't have a single equivalent to RTSG.

You have nothing.

You have nothing.

I would rather take this community.

Over the Groipers, even if they were ten times bigger than they are now, and making me five billion times more richer, I don't give a fuck.

Y'all don't have you don't have this.

You don't have a Khan, you don't have a Sultan, you don't have an army, all you guys have is nonsense, you have crypto bullshit, scams, h we're so back, we're so back Yeah, back in the fucking dirt.

'Cause our horses are gonna take turns fucking stepping on your bitch ass.

Where's your aff pack?

Grandma Americana, what's going on?

Where's your AF pack?

Yo, Farabi with the 10, what's going on?

What's going on?

Where's my AF pack?

What a stupid away Where's your AFPAC?

How about you stop showing me your ass crack, bitch?

How about stop walking around?

Everybody's smelling your ass crack, you stinky unshowered little bitch.

Go take a fucking shower.

And wipe your ass for once in your life, you dirty, unclean, fucking basement dwelling freak.

This dude is a cringe lord.

This dude is a cringe lord.

Y'all ain't ready.

Oh man, they're not ready.

They are not ready for this shit.

Guys,

They are really not ready.

They are really not ready for this shit.

It's like.

When they see, when this, see, we are literally being contained right now.

You know, we're like in a cave right now, you know.

Sapatismo.

When we get unleashed onto the world, the world will tremble.

They will literally tremble before us.

What this, this community that's been built here, this movement, you're not ready for it.

I promise you, you're not.

I promise you're not ready for it.

Put this into perspective.

Just think about this for a second.

I was five times more of a nobody then than I am now.

You know, Max on Twitch, I had 18K followers.

That was my Max.

Okay, I was w less well known.

I actually I actually got into Destiny's head.

That's crazy.

That's crazy.

When we were beefing, like, I actually got in his head, and he was actually like.

Like it was actually a problem for him.

For weeks, I had so much less people.

I had so many less people.

So many less like I had nobody, like basically, compared to DJG.

Are you kidding?

Like this guy's getting millions on YouTube.

I was a fucking nobody, but for weeks, that back and forth.

Holy shit.

That was something.

That was something.

That was something.

That was something.

If you think this is about numbers, you don't understand how it works.

That was something, okay?

That was something.

They don't understand.

And nobody understood it either.

That's why, you know, Destiny he did that blacklist on me shortly.

He's like, we gotta contain this infrared guy.

We gotta put him back into containment.

No way we're letting this guy be unleashed on the world.

No way.

And then Jackson.

It's always a backup, you know?

Isn't that interesting?

There's always a backup.

Jackson takes everyone by storm.

Everyone's confused about that.

They're like, where does this Jackson guy come from?

Is he CIA?

No, he's uh GIA.

Guerrillas Incorporated in America, bitch.

You know, they're like, is this guy?

He came out of nowhere.

He didn't come from nowhere.

He didn't come from nowhere.

You see, we gotta.

We put it this way: we got a spawn point, and there's a lot of monsters we're summoning.

There's a lot of monsters we're summoning.

I'm gonna speak this in nerd terms, right?

We got a summoning pool going, a black summoning pool going on in the deepest, darkest caverns and caves.

Lot of crazy things coming out of this shit.

Lot of crazy things are coming out of this.

Lot of sorcerers and wizards are conjuring up some crazy things.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

This is like Sauron.

You know, that's exactly what this is.

This is Mordor.

This is Mordor, you understand?

This is Mordor.

Am Sauron, these are the Or.

This is the Urukai.

You know?

This is the Urukai.

Let's get it going for the Urukai.

Let's go.

Let's get it going for the Urukai.

You don't know what's going on, do you?

Do you serve?

My fighting Uruk High Sam.

Right, meat back on the menu, boy.

That's right.

Meat's back on the menu.

We have the frogs for dinner.

That's exactly what's going on.

That's exactly what's going on.

That's exactly what we have going on.

Yo, what is this?

Who made this?

Shit.

Oh man, we don't want to start this.

We don't want to start this.

We don't want to do this.

Oh no, we don't want to do this.

Oh my god, what is this?

Listen, y'all don't want, you don't want to smoke with us, all right?

I promise.

You don't know what you're dealing with.

You don't know what you're dealing with, all right?

Yo, who the fuck are you?

Uh, Grieper.

Why are you stumbling and mumbling like a nervous little bitch?

Why don't you speak with your chest and actually talk like a man?

Go ahead.

All right.

So you're talking about the Mongolian Emperor Empire, and you're saying that there's this multi-racial fucking utopia, but I was reading up on it and it had an ethnic hierarchy.

You mean in a hierarchy of the people who were descendants of the conquerors and actually were the conquerors themselves?

Why is that so surprising?

But it's not just sort of like a royal family.

It's literally like the Mongolians were held at the top.

Yeah, because they're the ones who fucking...

Yeah, because the spoils of war go to the fucking...

Because imagine you start out with about what?

Few thousand people and you take on giant empires.

Of course, who's getting all the spoils of war?

But then what happened across time?

For example, the Yuan dynasty.

More and more, the bulk of the Mongol invading force, a lot of them are going back home to Mongolia.

The ones that are remaining are increasingly appointing, indigenizing, local, appointing local rulers, right?

Well, yeah, what are you going to do?

Just kill everybody?

I mean, if you conquer the people, so what happens is first the conquest happens, and it's a direct reign of the conquerors, and then they assimilate to the civilization they conquered, which is multiracial and multi-ethnic.

Any more questions?

No, but it's So you just got blown the fuck out.

What else you have to do?

I mean it's a multi ethnic and of course they're gonna incorporate, but it's just like every other empire throughout history.

It's basically drawn along racial lines.

How is it drawn along racial lines if the top positions were of higher fucking hierarchy?

But all of the top positions are increasingly being opened up to non-Mongolians, which is actually what happened.

No, they would incorporate other the elites of the societies that they conquered in order to better integrate them, but that's what you do when you conquer.

No, it's not they weren't integrating the civilization, they were being integrated into it, you dumbass.

Okay, what's the difference?

The difference is the Mongols conquered China and assimilate into China the civilization they conquered.

All right.

Well, I was just gonna say that about the Mongolians, but

Yeah.

What else?

I mean, when nomads first conquer

The empire is not yet consolidated, and yeah, temporarily, they are ruling as a top cast over everyone else temporarily.

But the great empire is only born after that temporary circumstance of the conquerors militarily just ruling changes from that to a definite system of governance, which has always been multiracial and multi-ethnic.

There's never been a definitive system of governance that has been enshrined and put in place that racially was only one group allowed and no one else.

Alright.

Well, I I'm not a fucking Mongolian expert, but yeah, but you came on and decided to debate about it like a fucking retard.

That's the problem.

Well, what's the problem is that you're just brushing away the fact that Jews are heavily involved in 9-11, like it's not a big deal when that actually is very fucking important.

Were Saudis involved?

Sure, but guess who stood to benefit from 9-11?

So the Saudis involved didn't stand to benefit?

Mm in what way?

I mean, a lot of them funded it and shit.

How did they benefit from 9-11?

Why did they do it if they didn't benefit?

I know why Israel did it.

Why why so do you think only Israel benefited?

That's it?

That I can even think of, yeah.

Did the US's oil monopoly benefit?

Probably, but did NATO benefit?

Uh by I mean, did they though like creating an enemy of I don't know I don't know what happened to the trillions of dollars that quote unquote went into the war on Afghanistan for arms even though it wasn't audited and no one knew where the fucking money went?

and they laundered it all to NATO and NATO allies,

Alright, but do you understand how Israel s benefited from nine eleven?

From US's presence in Iraq?

How does that help him?

You know, to be honest, i i i in in the long term, Saddam was not really a genuine threat to Israel.

He wasn't.

Like he straight up wasn't.

The threat to Israel was the uh

Was the the uh what do they call it?

The road through Baghdad to Damascus, the road from Tehran, Baghdad and Damascus, where Iran can send money to Hezbollah and the forces the of resistance and Lebanon especially.

I mean, even before Iran was a factor,

You know, the only major factor.

Even back then, people understood there's a there's a Saddam in the Lebanese civil war, he was backing the Maronites, he wasn't even backing the Palestinians.

You understand?

The thing that terrified Israel the most is if Saddam is removed, that way there's an arms network either beginning in Russia or Iran, but could be Russia through Iran, Baghdad, Damascus to Lebanon.

There you go.

That's what they were fucking terrified of.

Yeah, but they're I mean you you gotta imagine they're also terrified of all the enemies that surround their nation.

But Saddam Saddam went to war with it the the main enemies are backed by Iran.

Saddam just fired a few scud missiles, whatever.

But that was not the real threat to Israel was coming from the Palestinian resistance.

It was coming from the Lebanese resistance, and it was coming from Syria.

You see, Iraq doesn't border Israel.

Jordan does.

Egypt does.

They knocked out Egypt.

They knocked out Jordan.

No problem.

They still have Lebanon.

And through the Golan, they still have Syria.

Saddam has beef with Syria.

Iran doesn't.

If a government friendly to Syria and the forces of Lebanese and Palestinian resistance takes power in Iraq, that's a disaster for Israel, isn't it?

Yeah, but Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, like all of these places were destabilized as a result of nine eleven, which makes it clear that

But the benefit was for Israel and bibin that NYU said that himself.

That's it's the destabilization did help Israel, that's true, but is that a coincidence that the Iraq war led to destabilization that led to ISIS?

Mm-hmm.

To be honest, I don't know if ISIS was planned like a decade before.

I don't know.

There's really no telling about that.

I mean, there's almost no cases where ISIS has targeted Israel.

I do think the plan was, after toppling Saddam, to leave Iraq in a permanent state of chaos and disarray.

Probably.

That makes sense to me.

But that was also for Israel.

But it also makes sense for the US's ruling class.

We never had enemies in the Middle East before Israel became our greatest ally.

Can I ask you a question?

Go for it.

Has the CIA at all been involved in the Middle East?

Yeah, of course.

Before before Israel was the hot topic?

Sure.

Like, what what about Mossadegh in Iran?

Do you know who that is?

No, actually.

You don't know about Mossadegh in Iran?

Honestly, do you know who the Shah of Iran was?

Yeah, yeah, I know the Shah.

Who appointed him?

Don't know.

You don't know who brought him to power?

No.

It was the US and the British.

Why'd they do that?

Uh, probably to open up trade routes with Iran.

You think they wanted to open up trade routes?

You think Iran was not open to trade?

Is that what you think?

Yeah, I didn't even know who this guy was.

Now you're asking me about him.

Well, because you don't understand the fundamentals of international geopolitics and the tiny nuanced economic systems that drive geopolitics work.

You think it's just Israel.

That's not true.

Israel is part of a is on the chessboard.

It's a puzzle piece, sure, but it's part of something way bigger than just Israel.

It's about the petrodollar.

You know, it's about the United States's global monopoly on finance, right?

It's about the things, but it's like so you're just 9/11 is not the only thing Israel has done, like bombing of the USS Liberty.

Israel has a history.

And when it comes to like banking and the hedge fund managers and all that shit, that shit goes back a thousand years.

Hedge fund managers goes back a thousand years No, but the the d the predominance of the Jewish people in international banking goes back over a thousand years.

Define predominance.

You think they're a majority are Jews, 'cause it's not true.

I wouldn't say a majority, but that's where the clearly that's where the power the power is.

Let's say it's like 20%.

Would you think that's reasonable?

Uh I think it's all right, sure.

Okay, so so is the 80% fine?

To you or what?

Yeah, it depends.

Are they interested?

Are they interested in the country that they're a part of or do they have dual interests in a foreign nation?

They have dual interests in a transnational project that circumvents the sovereignty and popular sovereignty of this country, which is exactly what the Rockefellers, the Vanderbilts, America's top 500 families outlined by the historian in the 1930s that was recorded.

You're talking about like international interests, but the international people has been doing just that.

British Empire?

I mean, their campaign of colonialism doesn't make them an international people.

The fact that Jews were made a nationality.

Okay.

Let me find it.

Do you think Cecil Rhodes was a Jew?

Uh no.

Okay, well, here's a direct quote from him.

We should not form a secret society but with one object, the furtherance of the British Empire and the bringing of the whole world under British rule, the recovery of the United States for making the Anglo-Saxon race but one empire.

So this is what Cecil Rhodes believed.

It's what the Rockefellers believed.

It's what all of the major monopolists and capitalists in the U.S.

believed.

They wanted to basically subsume the United States of America into some kind of unaccountable empire that circumvented all of our institutions of sovereignty.

So that's actually the real history.

Damn, that sounds Jewish.

Well, it wasn't Jewish, actually.

And Jews weren't even really a major part of that at all.

You know, Jews, powerful capitalist Jews, got the Balfour Declaration from the British Empire.

They got, you know, their slice of the pie, I guess.

The Rothschilds, who are a minority in that ruling.

First of all, the Rothschilds, they're Jewish.

And they were in the British Empire, yeah, but that's because they're a diaspora amongst the nations in international.

No, it's that some Jews.

See, the British have these noble houses and titles where they knight people and they give them all these fucking labels and shit.

So there's a few Jews that really got into the good graces of the British oligarchy.

So they anointed them and they gave them their own house and crest and emblem and they brought them into the House of Lords and that was the Rothschilds.

So they were actually allowed to enter this feudal dynastic ruling elite group for whatever reason.

And they were allowed to, you know, they were allowed to join that.

But they're not the main force behind it.

They're not the main people behind it.

They're a faction.

But you don't have a main people.

You don't have a main force.

You're just like them.

You're just saying the international banking system.

We have to all rise up.

But against who?

We have to rise up against the global institutions of capitalism like the IMF and like the Federal Reserve that control us.

That's who.

We have to rise up against the actual fucking tangible capitalist class.

You don't find it suspicious that there's a severe overrepresentation of Jews in those I don't find it I don't find overrepresentation relative to population numbers to be politically relevant.

I mean think of it what why why is that politically relevant?

Who cares?

Like what what see like for example there's all sorts of weird patterns you can find in the demographics or ethnography patterns or whatever in society.

Like you know these Sikhs with turbans own a lot of 7-Elevens.

You're gonna fucking lose your mind over it?

It's not a substantive observation.

No, it is because we're dealing with an international people of banking people that have been doing this for a thousand years.

Yeah, but they haven't.

The Rothschilds were a recent thing.

I'm not talking about the Rothschilds.

The usury that Jews in the Middle Ages was was doing was called petty usury.

So there was some a few Jewish hucksters and they they you know they would come and they would engage in usury and there was like a local village level type of shit.

But we're not talking about they picked up maybe a couple of tips and tricks over the thousand years?

No, I think the middle this is why Engels said anti-Semitism.

I mean, this is a people that hold record for literally v passed down vocally for thousands of years.

They don't forget shit.

Yeah, I get what you're saying, but the forms of petty medieval hucksterism that some Jews engaged in because they weren't allowed to own land has nothing to do with the complicated nature of uh modern capitalist finance.

Okay, what do you think about how when Spain expelled the Jews, they entered a golden age.

When Britain expelled the Jews in the Magna Carta, they experienced a golden age.

How do you expect or explain that?

Do you think the British golden age followed Magna Carta?

Are you a fucking retard?

Uh did I fuck that up?

Magna Carta was in twelve fifteen.

You think the golden age of Britain was after twelve fifteen?

Uh as a matter of fact, there were prosperous times in like this.

Shut up, you're jibbering.

There were, there were, there were some prosperous.

Yeah, you're shifting the goalposts.

Britain's golden age was actually a period of tolerance toward Jews, you fucking idiot.

Um, as for the Spanish golden age, you're just talking about the reconquista because they didn't just expel the Jews, they expelled the Muslims.

They expelled everyone who wasn't uh Christian.

So that was just the Reconquista, okay?

What's your point?

My point is when you experience a golden age after name a single example of a civilization experiencing a golden age because they expelled Jews.

Because Reconquista has nothing to do primarily with Jews, all right?

That was just Reconquista.

But name an example in history where like one of these retarded medieval backwater, retarded cultures, as Engels would call them, did like a pogrum against the Jews out of some backward medieval rubbish nonsense, and then it led to a golden age.

Can you name that how that happened one time?

Shit, I read something about it, but I forgot.

Yeah, you can't because it just betrays this.

As Frederick Engels said, it's an example of a retarded culture, a culture that has been retarded developmentally, stuck in some medieval backwater rubbish where peasants are fighting with small-scale Jewish hucksters and just nonsense bull rat Romanian village kind of nonsense that has not you know it's just a very backward culture and civilization that that is dealing with bro what are you talking about like Oxford University existed at the same time that they were fucking sacrificing people on the altars in Mexico can't just call that backwater that's basically like the birthplace of modern civilization

You think modern civilization was born in the Middle Ages?

I mean, it developed there partly.

It wasn't just like this great dark issue where nothing good fucking happened.

That's the issue.

Modern civilization, okay, first of all.

That was China.

That was the Islamic empires.

All right.

They were doing the heavy limping, creating a world market and the Silk Road and all these integrated trade routes, especially the Mongols.

Now, who benefits from that?

The Venetians and the Italians through the Renaissance.

And through them, it trickles down into Europe, into the Protestant Reformation.

And that's the beginning of Europe's road to greatness.

You know, the Industrial Revolution and all whatnot.

And the advanced naval techniques and all this stuff through Spain and stuff.

But before that, you're saying the birthplace of civilization is happening in some backwater nonsense village.

That's where a lot of development occurred.

Yeah.

No, Shrek's hut was not developing a fucking thing.

All right.

Nothing was going on in Shrek's swamp.

All right.

You know who else benefited from the Silk Road and the international trade?

Because Israel is located basically at the center of Europe, Africa, and Asia.

And so that's where international trade essentially matured.

But Israel didn't exist during the Mongol Silk Road.

What the fuck?

You're tripping me up with your stupid community.

Why do you got you guys call me low IQ and so stupid all the time?

You're always calling me like stupid.

What is this?

Bro, I'm an engineer.

I don't do this shit.

I'm fucking.

What is this?

I'm a STEM guy.

Okay.

I don't do this.

But this is crazy.

How old are you?

I'd rather not say, but are you in high school?

But hold on, hold on.

I don't know exactly when, you know, obviously modern-day Israel didn't exist at that time, but Israel, what we call Israel now, is at the center of Africa, Europe, and Asia.

And so they did practice, you know, essentially international trading when long ass time ago.

No, they didn't.

Israel didn't exist until 1948.

I'm saying not the modern nation of Israel.

You're saying Bronze Age Israel or Iron Age Israel?

Yeah.

Those were the good guys.

If you're a Christian, those were the good guys, right?

Or we don't like them anymore and we side with the pagans now.

No, dude, that's like two black and white.

Well, the Iron Age Jews are like the good guys in the Bible, right?

Or unless you're like a pagan.

What are you talking about?

If you're a Christian, then like you're against Moses and all of like the biblical prophets and stuff.

No, I'm saying that's where like this subsect of like Jewish bankery.

Okay, no, no.

What do you mean, this bankery?

That's where the debt jubilees were happening.

Like every 50 years, they'd cancel everyone's debt.

What are you talking about?

It was the Greeks that brought you.

This is how stupid you are.

You don't even know anything about history.

It was the Greeks who invented usury.

Every Semitic civilization, even if they had a practice of issuing interest-bearing debts, there was always a cyclical and periodic practice of the cancellation of debt, which meant there was never an oligarchy that rose based on usury, and there was always a strong king and emperor that was always in control that made sure that the interest of the people was always supreme, working on irrigation and public works and stuff.

But then the Greeks come along, the gay Reeks, sorry if you're Greek, I don't mean to offend you.

But the Greeks come along, and they basically, because they were barbaric and they were getting limited exposure to these Bronze Age Mesopotamian practices, they started issuing interest-bearing debts without any of the debt cancellation.

And they were already beginning from pirates that were just looting everyone, so they were already of low rapport.

All right.

You keep putting on these gotchas.

The Greeks institutionalize usury, right?

They institutionalize usury.

And when Alexander the Great's empire conquers the Levant and Judea becomes Hellenized, that's when the biblical tradition of the debt jubilee stops happening.

That's when the practice of usury really starts to take hold, especially under the Roman Empire.

That's cool.

You could say the Greeks invented usury, but we both know who practiced it the most throughout history, and that's how they acquired their reputation.

It doesn't just come out of nowhere.

These stereotypes have the world historical significance it has today by the Anglo-Saxons.

There's absolutely no debate about that from any credible or reputable historian or anyone who just knows anything about history.

Anglo-Saxon mercantilism is the basis of usury becoming the ruler of the world.

The petty huckster.

See, this is, you know, you're a white nationalist, but you don't read Shakespeare, do you?

No.

Have you read The Merchant of Venice?

No.

Well, usury in Shakespearean England started to become so common, and it started to become existentially and metaphysically, you know, troubling, you know, on a literary level, spiritual level.

And this had a lot to do with the Protestant Reformation and the kind of breaking with the Catholic Church.

And in one of Shakespeare's plays, which is called The Merchant of Venice, they actually have a character who's a Jew named Shylock, who they are symbolizing as the usurious figure of usury because of the medieval petty usury and hucksterism that Jews were engaged in in the feudal times.

But that was a symbol, and the reason for that is because in England, where there were little to no Jews at the time, and the ones that were were basically of no significance, usury started to actually take hold as like the main economic practice that started to dominate, you know, English society.

And that was being addressed and resolved and related to and articulated through, in part, Shakespeare's play, The Merchant of Venice.

So the English were dabbling in this problem of usury metaphysically and existentially, you know, and there was no need for them to say, oh, this is just the Jews doing this because they were doing it themselves.

And they brought it to such heights and such a degree of infamy and significance that no other civilization on planet Earth has ever had.

So you're saying that the British blamed the Jews on usury?

No, they didn't.

They used Shylock because he was because Shylock, no, no, not a scapegoat, as a symbol.

It's just a symbolic literary.

So you don't find it weird that Shakespeare used a Jew as a symbol of usury.

You should actually read the play.

Oh, read it, but do you think that's weird?

No, it's not weird because in the Middle Ages, Jews were known to engage in petty kinds of, you know, petty merchant huckstering, small-scale kind of.

So these Jews had a reputation for usury and usury.

For petty usury.

Oh, it was just petty.

Okay.

Yes, absolutely.

Petty usury.

Usury did not get institutionalized into the mainstream until the Gentiles started doing it.

Oh, then?

And also, by the way, you don't want to get into this.

Jews were engaged in petty usury, like street-level usury.

Some of them were.

But on an institutional level, even before Shakespeare in England and the Protestant Reformation, you have the Catholic Church doing it.

You have the various different religious orders under the Catholic Church, like the Knights Templars and all these other kinds of fucking people, you know, doing it.

Can really get into the history there if you study.

So there's other people doing it.

That institutionalize it.

Yeah, it was institutionalized.

So the usury the Knights Templar were engaged in, that's not on the level of Shylock, the Merchant of Venice, okay?

But Shakespeare, he's writing The Merchant of Venice, not because he's saying the Jews are engaging in too much usury, but he's talking about how English society is starting to tolerate usury, okay?

And he's and actually you can read Shakespeare's play.

And you're almost meant to be sympathetic with Shylock, who technically is correct.

In the play.

That's why I say you should read it.

Because it was a lit on a literary level, it was a way for them to deal existentially with the fact that they were developing usury and they were starting to engage in the practice.

A Jewish practice.

Yeah, theologically you could argue that, and that's what the theme of the play was kind of is basically saying, are we just engaging in a Jewish practice?

Is there something about this that betrays our own?

You don't find that weird.

You don't find they're overrepresented in banking.

You don't find it weird that they're getting to benefit from 9-11.

I'm trying to educate you.

I'm trying to educate you.

Yeah, you mustry, but all right, all right.

Do I have to mute you?

I'm trying to educate them.

But that's not the conclusion they came to.

They didn't come to the conclusion that it was a Jewish practice.

That's what you're missing.

They came to the conclusion that this was a practice compatible with their own metaphysical outlook on the nature of humanity and the universe and the world.

So you can't say it's a Jewish practice.

I'm trying to explain to you how, even in the backward Middle Ages, where you know it's like Shrek, where you have, you know, yeah, these like medieval rubbish of petty hucksterism being associated with Jews, and yeah, that was a real thing in the Middle Ages, but that's that was the petty hucksterism, that was the petty usury.

You understand?

Institutionalized usury was not in the hands of the Jews in the Middle Ages.

I hear you.

And all this stuff about the Jews being kicked out of 109 countries.

All of these, first of all, the Jews got in trouble in the Bronze Age and the Iron Age for defending the word of God.

Okay?

So if you're going to count that into the 109 countries, you're a fucking pagan.

If you're going to count Roman persecution of Jews, you're a fucking pagan.

The Jews were defending the sanctity of God's word against the butt-fucking sodomizing, pedophile Romans.

So you want to defend that?

Go ahead.

You're saying that they were kicked out of 109 countries because they were defending the word of God.

In the Christian world, the reason there was all of these expulsions of Jews from France and Britain and Spain and whatever is because there was no tolerance of any religion.

There was no religious tolerance at all.

Do you know who the Cathars were?

Somewhat.

Who were they?

Uh forget.

What what happened to the Cathars?

Were they expelled?

No, they were all killed.

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

They were heretics, they were a sect of Christianity.

That were all killed.

What happened after the Protestant Reformation?

Was it just like peaceful?

Was it tolerance?

What happened?

Uh, nah, it was violent.

Were there wars of religion over these differences?

Yeah.

Can you name a single middle uh Middle Ages, um, Christian country that tolerated Muslims?

Were there any Muslims?

Like, before we talk about, like, were these Muslims being expelled?

Were they ever let in?

Um, well, I know there are Muslims in Spain Yeah, they were all kicked out, right?

And they they weren't let in a Christian kingdom.

They conquered Spain and then they were driven out, right?

Yeah.

'Kay.

So there's something interesting going on here, isn't there?

Right?

Which is and this is what's ironic.

Within West Christianity, within West Christian civilization, the only religious other that was ever tolerated were the Jews.

No one else was tolerated.

No Cathars, no other Christians, only Jews.

The only religious other that was acknowledged and tolerated were the Jews.

Not fully tolerated.

They're doing pogroms, you know, all the time and kicking them out and whatever.

But imagine that they were the only ones that were ever even tolerated to have a chance to be expelled in the first place.

So when you say that they're all being expelled because uh they're such they're such troublemakers and whatever

Well, no, they're being expelled because they're barely being tolerated in the first place because there's no other religious others and groups that they were tolerating in the first place.

Gotcha.

All right, man, I gotta brush up on my history.

I didn't listen to the weeds.

And I want Reipers to understand when you call Haas stupid and illiterate, I think you have a different definition of what intelligence is because for you, intelligence is the capacity to fall in line in a gay, retarded form of groupthink rather than the capacity to actually reason through facts based on a sufficient level of knowledge acquired on the facts.

And I think these are different things.

You think that someone is intelligent because they know how to signal in the right directions, you know, to conform to whatever retarded fucking nonsense is being propelled into popularity, rather than actually being able to render, you know, differences within reality and their relations thereof intelligible to the mind by the intellect.

Very different things going on, aren't they?

So let's bring up a guy named E, who's got a Roman, I think that's a Roman, Roman profile picture of pederastry and sodomy.

What's going on?

Give me one second.

I'm going to mute the stream here.

Yeah.

How are you?

How are you doing?

Well, what do you want?

Well I was uh I just wrote down a couple of points that you were uh debating with the other guy and I would like to discuss those.

I think you're uh wrong on some of those points.

Go ahead.

All right, so for Saudi Arabia's I guess this is a more broad one related to your whole interpretation of Anglo-Saxon.

I don't know if you would even call it a civilization, but I mean I don't I don't think that your anglophobia here is really justified.

In fact, in fact I would argue it's quite the opposite, right?

I mean Anglo-Saxon civilization the way that we know it today is actually the pinnacle of humanity in some ex to some extent.

So you're basically gibbering about a value judgment and not addressing the facts of what I said.

That's really interesting.

No, I mean, I have multiple different topics here that we can discuss.

Another example is you mentioned the Greeks being barbaric.

I don't think that is the case whatsoever.

Or even the fact that.

Why not?

What's that?

Why not?

I mean, the Greeks, we have derived so much knowledge.

They contributed so much knowledge to the human pool of Greek.

Hold on.

You mean knowledge that was stolen from Egypt and Persia and Mesopotamia?

I think it's a good thing.

Do you even know anything?

You know, like all the main Greek pre-Socratic OGs were like Phoenicians.

What are you even talking about?

They were barbarians.

No, no, no.

Absolutely.

Pirates.

Have you read Homer's poems?

They were pirates.

They were barbarians.

Piracy is very common, but it is.

Egypt and Mesopotamia were developing civilizations for thousands of years.

Thousands of years.

And in their own right.

And in their own right, they were also great, right?

But I don't think you can come to this.

Pythagoras and the ancient Greeks concentrated all of the wisdom and knowledge accumulated by these civilizations and tried to distill out of them a general conclusion.

Sure, but it was just stolen.

Okay.

Heraclitus.

I just think that Heraclitus is the beginning of Greek philosophy as Heraclitus and the whole Western principle of Logos.

It was stolen from Zorashi.

I mean, how can you say this?

I mean, how can you say that?

Wait, let me go.

Let me just go, just please.

How can you say that the Greeks did not contribute immense value to the development of, I guess you could say, Western or whatever civilization, right?

Obviously, they did these developments in politics, right?

Developments in philosophy, right, in art.

All of this was developed.

Not all of it.

Don't get me wrong.

What do you think those achievements were?

Can you name them?

What do you mean what do I think those achievements?

Well, obviously, I mean, many of our conceptions of modern democracy stem from Athens, do they not?

That is just one example.

What aspect of modern democracy besides the name comes from Athens?

Can you explain?

I mean, democratic democracy.

And I don't think there's anything about democracy.

Democratic participation.

I mean, the hegemony, right?

Our study of international.

Wait.

Okay.

Because I can point to you examples of anthropologists finding that in 3500 BC, in Mesopotamian temple civilizations, temple structures, you have forms of participatory popular rule there.

So if you're just talking about the name, the etymology comes from Athens.

But it is not just...

So you see, that's so you have a point to some extent, but just because there were other examples, right, that developed independently, or even if the Greeks drew upon it.

Yes, that doesn't mean that the current interpretation of democracy doesn't have a continuum.

What is the similarity between the current interpretation of democracy and the one that existed in ancient Greece?

Tell me the similarity.

I mean, obviously, I mean, you have I mean, the very the very idea, right, that the citizens of a nation, right, or the polis, I guess you could say back then, are, you know, engaging in the agora, right, in the public space, right?

Because you're just gibbering and using fucking terms like agora.

Can you concretely?

Can you not see this?

I mean, the very, I guess, I guess Rome is a different civilization.

There is nothing in common between the modern conception of democracy and the Greek concept.

You think, say, the founding fathers of the United States took no inspiration from the classicals, from the classical peoples.

Of course they did.

It was an ideological movement called neoclassism, which believed it was returning to the pure origins of the West and of the foundation of civilization itself, going back to the Greeks.

So it was a retro kind of movement that was basically thinking that it was returning to the golden age of ancient Greece, which was a myth that they constructed at that time itself.

So they were drawing so much quote-unquote inspiration from ancient Greece and ancient Rome, primarily as a source of legitimating their rebellion and insurrection against traditionally established sovereign authorities.

Because they didn't have a historical legitimation to actually rebel and overthrow this traditional form of political authority that had existed for centuries and centuries, they took their legitimacy in some mythologized past of ancient Rome and ancient Greece to basically justify why these revolutions were historically legitimate.

So that was in part, and also the rejection of Christianity and the skepticism and the even atheism of the European Enlightenment harkened back to the ancient Greeks and to the Romans as a way to justify the historically grounded and traditionalist kind of credibility of the rejection of Christianity by pointing out 100%, but even those things were effectively manifested, right?

Now we exist in these secular governments, right?

You can see that you say that our current society doesn't have these connections, but you're very clearly showing that the ancient Greece that inspired the Western Enlightenment was a myth.

It wasn't actual ancient Greece.

It was a mythologialized projection of ancient Greece.

It wasn't actually a real thing, though.

I don't I don't I don't I don't I mean I don't see how that I don't see how that's the case I mean even if governmental institutions even governmental institutions were inspired by by those of the classical ages is that not true no they were taken the names were taken from cl readings and interpretations of classical institutions sure names were taken in large part but they weren't directly one for one actually like literally directly imported or inspired from them as they actually existed back then there were modern i just i just don't think that's true i mean you look at you look at um you look at systems of organization right you look at you look at um like the let's just look very simply right at the branches of government right these were taken right the u s itself was modeled of of the roman republic right the founder said we have a historical example of a republic that have in common with the roman republic besides having an institution called the senate it of course it has much more than that i mean the very idea the very idea that there is this popular appointment of uh the executive right by the people right the very i mean institutions like the the treasury right you think the roman people elected the executive authority the people is in the peasants no of course not so what are we talking about well because even when the united states started right the people that could vote were like what like two percent of the population right like landowning whites right christian whites um it is a it is i I'm not saying, of course, that the modern US is a copy of the Republic, but there is clearly a line, right?

There is clearly a canon, a connection that exists between these two.

The canon is just the etymological use of words and names, but there's no direct lineage connecting them.

I mean, I just I just I I mean even even if even if it were only the names right or or say the names in a big other thing we could credit the only real thing we could credit ancient Greece with exceptionally speaking you know is the ability for its the content of its thinkers to have survived the historical records better than anyone who came before that's what we could credit them with a lot of that has to do with the fact that it was the West itself you know which begins modernity as we know it and begins the you know process of of fixating upon the past and on history to the extent that it did you know modernity itself and that is why there is the strongest emphasis on ancient Greece that we have but if we had the same degree of proximity to you know ancient Egypt or Mesopotamia in terms of how much we attempted to focus on it I mean these things simply didn't survive yeah you're right you're right what what you said is true but you know say that uh say that modern society or whatever had emerged in uh north africa right so they're closer to egypt right and they had these records still existed right of ancient Egyptianist society it is very clear that you would have resulted with a very different type of republican model it is very clear that assuming of course you would I mean the types of democracy that existed elsewhere not even just democracy the types of politics that it's just existed elsewhere right were reflected in different ways we look at China for instance right we look at China with the with the I guess the mandate of heaven right or the sinosphere kind of cultural area right and the societies that drew upon China for cultural inspiration like Korea right like Japan like I guess Vietnam to some extent from my understanding they drew drastically different conclusions right because the society that contributes to political development to artistic development to cultural transformation is going to have itself reflected right

Yeah, but China is actually a geographic reality and and it's a land empire with a real concrete continuity of historical existence.

You can't say that for Greece at all.

You can't say Greece bears the same relationship to Western civilizations.

I mean I do agree that China has has had a more hist a more uh grounded approach in that regard, right?

It has existed for so many millions.

And I was arguing with some people in your chat, the very notion that Western civilization isn't real or or or even if I can't delimit it exactly, right, isn't a thing, right?

It very certainly is a thing, right?

Even if it's not the line from Greece to modern, say, the United States isn't that easily visible, right?

There very clearly is a civilizational entity that exists here.

Uh there's a civilization that's centered in France and Germany.

I agree.

It's not in the US though.

Well, I mean I guess that would I guess that would you would have to it would depend, but I I do believe that it is very clear to me that the Anglosphere or like the the um English speaking world is a civilization in its own right.

It is in fact as I mentioned earlier the pinnacle civilization of humanity.

That is very clear.

It is the metropole of the world.

Yeah, you can keep glazing the global homework or whatever.

I don't give a fuck.

But the facts of the matter stand that English civilization historically was to the extent that it was peripheral with regard to France, okay, and France from Rome.

Okay, that's the historical relationship.

As for English civilization itself, that was always an aspiration.

The aspiration for actually building an English civilization was there.

You saw it in Shakespearean England.

You know, you saw it.

Um, throughout England's literary history itself, you saw it in the English Civil War.

So the aspiration was always there, but it was never quite accomplished.

Okay, there was always this kind of Norman aristocracy and this underclass of like English kind of people who were like considered an underclass who were more indigenous.

I'm not against those people, by the way.

I'm just explaining like the relationship.

How does that?

I don't see how that really takes away from it being a civilization in its own right, right?

I mean, even because the British Empire was not a civilization, it was the opposite of a civilization.

It was a destructive and liquidationist force, which just completed civilizations on a global level.

I completely disagree.

I mean, the British Empire, if you look at the map of the British Empire, say, I wouldn't say that, you know, Egypt being under English control, of course, I wouldn't say that Egypt was part of English civilization.

The English Empire was one.

You look at this Anglo-Anglo-civilization, right?

Anglo-Saxon civilization.

You look at Anglo-America, right?

You're looking at Great Britain.

Today, this British, right, or this English civilization is centered in North America.

Does it take credit for America?

I don't get that.

It is not taking credit for America.

Of course not.

The Americans developed this nation themselves.

Americans are an expansion.

They don't want to be in the British Empire.

That's why they broke with it.

Yes, obviously, from a political and a jurisdiction point of view.

From a civilizational perspective, they from a civilizational perspective, it is very clearly.

The opposite is true.

The Americans were looking westward to build a totally new civilization and wanted to turn their back on it.

If that were true, then why would the founders have looked eastward towards Europe for these artistic movements, for these philosophical movements, for the Roman Republic, as we were discussing earlier, right?

For Athens as well.

I already told you.

I already told you because they needed to legitimize their overthrow of the then-existing European ancient regime and justify it and have some historical backing for it.

But even the founding fathers drew inspiration.

I mean, look at the names of the states in America and the cities and what they're named off.

There's a reason why the founders tried even to draw inspiration from the indigenous Americans because they wanted to distinctly emphasize a distinct American identity in contrast to Europe.

I mean I I don't think that's true.

Obviously there was uh obviously the indigenous peoples contributed great Australia to America.

Australia's major cities, what are they?

Sydney and all this nonsense named yeah, but the reason for that is because the average Aboriginal people were were Aboriginal people were uh much less in number and were also wiped out, right?

But then look at look at the new cities in the US in California, you have Eureka, right?

You have Olympia in Seattle, you have Indianapolis, right, you have Minneapolis.

It is very clear that there is a civilizational link between North America and Europe.

You also have literally a city for every Middle Eastern city, Memphis, Cairo, you have fucking Egypt Egypt was also an inspiration for the founders in some in some regard, yes?

Okay, so all that you're telling me is the founders were looking toward these ancient civilizations 'cause they wanted to break with the European status quo.

How is that breaking with the European status quo?

If anything, that is a continuation, in my opinion.

How?

I mean if you're naming if you're naming cities if you're naming city if you're naming cities uh Paulus, right, Rome, if you're building your institution politically politically they w didn't want to be governed by a foreign entity, I understand that, but from a civilizational perspective they very much s viewed themselves, right, in this in this light as the new Rome.

They viewed themselves as the inheritors of objective because they believed civilization was something objective.

So they obviously are giving the Greeks and the Romans their proper due.

I'm not denying that.

But they wanted to build a new type of civilization that was distinctly American here.

I'm not going to deny that last part because there is a lot of truth to that, but going back to my underlying point, I think that you can very easily characterize your average American today as being part of this broader Anglo-society, not just your American, by the way, Canadian, right?

British person, right?

It is very clear that these cultural connections, and not just cultural, right, geopolitical connections are there as well, right?

There is trust between these nations for cultural affinity, right?

Protestantism, right?

Great, great influence in the development of the nation.

It is very clear that these links still exist.

It's so stupid.

It's like you're talking about the way US sovereignty was overthrown in favor of the international capitalist class settled in the city of London and Wall Street.

And they're like, this is proof of an organic civilizational tie between the people.

And it's like, no, it's not.

The American people never signed up for like the Five Eyes or the CIA and the OSS and the infiltration and Cecil Rose plan for a secret society to reintegrate America back into the Anglo-American Empire project.

It had nothing to do with a grassroots bottom-up process.

I agree we share the same language.

I agree that because we share that language, that British and Americans can get along and we can consume each other's media and it's fine.

We don't hate each other.

But the idea that we all belong to an Anglo-America, you know, a so-called Anglo-sphere is nonsense.

I mean, culturally speaking.

Colts, this is a very distinct country, very distinct country.

So, this country is something very special, right?

That it is kind of this melting pot, you could say.

No, it's not just a melting pot, America is something distinct, it's America.

Well, yes, it is America, it is obviously something different, right?

But even in this own regard, right?

I expected that.

No, we are not empiricists, we are pragmatists.

Oh, my look, I mentioned earlier how this in this Anglo-society, right?

In this Anglo society, all right, I want you to read some books.

I want you to read Henry David Thoreau, I want you to read the Transcendentalists and the Pragmatists, I want you to read America's literary icons and titans.

How is this?

And I want and because you'll derive an understanding of what makes us different if you do that, all right?

Anyway, what else did you want to say?

Okay, well, look, we can leave that there, but I completely disagree.

But here's another, here's another one that I took from you: is you mentioned that a modern civilization was born with the societies of the Silk Road, yes?

And that they are the ones, they, you know, Islamic or they created the world economy.

I completely agree with that.

I completely disagree with that.

Of course, they so here's my point: obviously, they contributed to that, and with the Silk Road.

World trade existed before the Silk Road.

So I'm not I'm not say I'm not saying that uh I'm not saying that uh that's not my argument.

My argument is that the current um the current form of of of trade, right, the current arrangements of trade that we have are very much more characterized by those uh created by the Europeans, right?

You're talking about an emphasis in maritime trade, right?

Even even even these societies that you refer to, right, like China, engage in this immensely, right, through oceanic uh high-speed no it's actually qualitatively different and I can explain why.

The Atlanticist form of mercantilism you're talking about is based on the imposition of unilateral trade agreements by one empire using its overwhelming force to basically subjugate all these peoples to enter into you know unequal trade agreements and or at least trade agreements exclusively one-sided on one person's terms.

That has culminated into the IMF today, so I agree that's still there.

But that's not the same as world trade.

World trade is actual trade between different authorities and sovereign powers that enter into agreements on a bilateral basis, not a unilateral one.

And China, even though it's using how is how do we not see this today?

Like wh when the US enters into commercial relations with China, how is this not that same thing, right?

The US enters into commercial relations with China and is still trying to fucking browbeat China into a it's it just doesn't have the leverage that it you don't but you don't you don't think that this is something so so here's the US doesn't have enough leverage that's the issue if they have the leverage they'll fucking bully everyone into accepting IMF debt slavery I don't I don't agree with this perspective that well you should because anyone who tries to resist the internet the interests of the World Bank and the IMF and the international capitalist class upheld by the US anytime a leader comes to power and tries to set up something independent from all that they call him a communist or they call him a fucking human rights abuser after the soviet union fell that's what they did they go in and they fucking overthrow him that's what they always do okay you want to disagree with that or what okay well you know here's here's another thing that is related to this is why why do you assume that these societies like china are so benevolent right oh obviously china wouldn't exploit all of these or obviously china i don't you know i don't i don't know why you're putting words in my mouth we didn't say benevolent we said we said basing themselves their trade agreements being bilateral not unilateral so i don't know what the fuck you're talking about

Why would any society in the position of hegemony not attempt the same exact thing that the current hegemony in your world, in your idea, tries to pursue?

Of course they would.

Because the Anglo-Saxon hegemony is self-destructive and it devastates not just the cultures of the world, but the culture and civilization of the host countries themselves.

China doesn't want to be like Victorian England because Victorian England was a shithole for the British people.

It was rife with class struggles, the whole context of communism in part.

It doesn't want to be like America because it doesn't want its fucking citizens to die and overdose on fentanyl and have OnlyFans and fucking nonsense run rampant.

Okay.

So China doesn't want to be like Britain in America.

Why would they?

No, but no one wants that.

And do you think that even the leaders of our nations want their people to be overdosing?

No, they can't do it to some extent.

It is an inevitable consequence of being a unilateral hegemon.

Because by being a unilateral hegemon, you are not focusing enough resources on self-governance.

The reason bilateral relations are chosen by China, they don't have to be benevolent.

They just have to say, we want to focus more on self-governance and our own sovereignty.

And to the extent that we enter into relations with other countries, we don't have the resources to govern them.

We don't have the ability to control the world.

We are focusing too much on controlling ourselves.

I just think that you're fundamentally, this is kind of like an isolationist position I'm hearing here.

The truth is that the U.S., the U.S.

very well could.

And this is an argument that I hear from pro-Russia people and so on, right?

It's that, oh, we're giving so much money to Ukraine and to Israel and whatever, so much so that we can't feed our own citizens, right?

That is obviously not true.

The amount of money that we are dedicating to these countries is absolutely marginal in the grand scheme of things, right?

We are investing so much more money here domestically already.

Should we but if there was ever a proposal to invest in any kind of project in this country for the same amount of money, it wouldn't get passed in Congress.

So shut the fuck up, honestly.

So you're already wrong, right?

This has already happened in the past many times before.

I mean, how much money would it take?

How much money would it take to build high-speed rail in America?

Probably like a trillion dollars.

One trillion?

Probably.

So we sent more than one tenth of that to foreign countries.

How do you feel about that?

One tenth, yeah, that's not that much.

I beg to fucking differ.

That's the thing.

I beg to fucking differ.

One hundred so one-tenth of that.

I mean, obviously, I would love to have high-speed rail in this country, don't get me wrong, right?

And if we hypothetically have to cut down on our foreign expenditures to some extent, I'm I'm willing to do that.

Well, well, well, and it's also symbolic, it's about where our priorities are.

We are so willing to funnel resources away, however little, according to you.

I doubt that.

I mean, we have sent a lot over there, okay?

It's a lot, it's not a little.

But even if it were a little, it's just the point.

The point is, we are focused over there instead of here.

Okay, it's clear our priorities are not straight.

I mean, every time we want to do something here, it always gets blocked in Congress.

It always gets stopped.

I mean it's ridiculous.

But I would say that as much that is.

I I couldn't tell you how much.

Can you look it up?

Uh yeah, here.

Uh

It is uh approximately one point seven five trillion.

All student loan debt.

Uh

As of the first quarter of twenty twenty four, the total student debt uh loan debt in the United States was approximately one point seven five trillion.

Why couldn't we cancel at least fifteen percent of that?

With this money, we're going to be able to do it.

I mean, that is, but so you're not wrong, right?

That would be something good to do.

Don't get me wrong.

But I don't see that as a the fact that we're funding Ukraine or these foreign countries in something in an international canceled any of it.

We're not even canceling any of it.

We're not even focusing on any of that.

Sure, sure.

But that is not a problem of our foreign, uh, in our foreign actions.

It is a pro or foreign policy.

It is a problem that we have way too much privatization in this country, that private interests are too much.

So, you're gonna jibber about all this systemic stuff, but when it comes to fucking giving Ukraine 500 billion, here's a check, 500 billion right away.

No need to jibber.

I don't buy any of this, all right?

So, two reasons.

Anything else?

No, so two things here.

I mean, you so two things here.

For one, is uh 500 billion, 500 billion over the course of many years, and second of all, you can't assume that we're not benefiting from this.

Like, right, this very notion that how are Americans benefiting concretely?

Go ahead.

The U.S.

benefits, right?

No, no, Americans.

Don't tell me the U.S., because that can mean a lot of things.

Americans.

American citizens, right, that are in a covenant with the United States, right?

They are in a relationship with the state, they benefit from having a statement.

Shut the fuck up, bro.

I don't want to hear this nonsense, covenant nonsense.

How do Americans benefit?

Go ahead.

I mean, you think that Americans.

What is this nonsense?

Are you like a car salesman?

How do Americans benefit?

I literally, I'm telling you.

So Americans benefit, right?

Because Americans benefit from their country having power over others, right?

That is how.

How do we benefit from sending money to Ukraine?

Go ahead.

Don't use an abstraction.

We put one of our biggest adversaries in the hole, right?

Which is what's happening with.

How does harming Russia help us?

How does it help?

Because it reinforces our hegemony, right?

And our hegemony.

No, no, but concretely.

Concretely.

Come get to that.

Yeah.

Give me concrete examples of how harming Russia helps us.

I'm going to get there, right?

No, no, no, right now.

Americans benefit, for instance, from their currency being the world reserve currency, right?

Americans benefit, right, from their country receiving.

All right, let me ask you a question.

I'll just stop you right there because you're talking a lot.

I'll just stop you right there.

All right.

If you think that Americans benefit from the dollar as the world reserve currency, then the worst thing we could do, the worst thing we could do, is antagonize Russia in the way we did.

Because what we have done is accelerate de-dollarization in a span of time that would have never been as condensed as it otherwise would have.

Russia was using the dollar before we fucked with them.

They were using our dollars.

They were participating in reinforcing our dollar hegemony.

And we fucked that up.

Even if I conceded to you that dollar hegemony is in our interest, which in the long term I don't think it is, but even if I conceded that to you, your argument is fucking retarded.

Okay?

No, no, but antagonizing Russia doesn't help us.

The only reason Russia has a problem with dollar hegemony is because of the sanctions that we use that are purely for political reasons.

You're speaking of something that is kind of tangential to the point that you can argue, right?

You can argue that antagonizing Russia to this extent was a geopolitical blunder, right?

Or sanctioning them was a blunder.

You can say that if you want.

Are you a lawyer?

What are you?

Like, this is like some shit.

Like, if a lawyer was in court, he has to come up with shit on the fly and he like fucks up and then he has to like, okay, okay, you could say that, like, bro.

How old are you?

How how is that even relevant to you?

Are you in law school?

Are you in law school?

Okay, this might be racist, but my chat is wondering: are you Jewish?

Uh yeah, no, I'm not Jewish.

You fucking suck.

If you were Jewish, I would have liked to, but you fucking suck.

You're just a fucking loser.

How there's no charm to any of this.

There's no because it's like you're not even like Jewish.

You're not even like a Jewish lawyer or anything.

You're just a kind of fucking loser.

So true, so true.

No, no, no.

But but but jokes aside here, um so you're are you a Nick Fuentes fan?

No, no, no.

I'm not I'm not a I'm not a a conservative, much less a reactionary.

Wow, so you're actually one of those like Reddit R slash neoliberal people.

I wouldn't exactly call myself a neoliberal.

I mean, there are instances if we're speaking of like Latin American I mean I g I guess neoliberal economics.

I I mean I wouldn't really characterize myself under that umbrella.

But but in any case, I mean

Your whole ideology is just like

Like zero drip, zero aura condensed.

It is actually quite totally why even why do you even wake up in the morning if this is what you believe?

Like, I'd literally rather actually quite the opposite.

I just think I uh I have a much more realistic worldview, right?

Like, I can understand why somebody has such a bankrupt soul that they just become a bap guy who like believes in like you know, like cannibalism, basically.

Because at least that's exciting.

But, like, what do you believe in?

Nothing.

Of course, I believe in you just wake up every day.

I believe just because I'm not like bat insane, right?

Just because I don't want like some workers.

You just wake up every day.

You turn on CNN and you stretch.

And you're like, ah, just the other day doing the same shit, the same thing.

It's like, bro, that's what.

Do you know how normal people operate?

Or is that just like that's like how normal people are?

Yeah, there's normal and then there's Patrick Bateman who's sitting here like.

Unironically paired like an NPC like a budget.

Like the Patrick Bateman like Revolutionary LARP or some shit like

No, you're the Patrick Bates.

Oh, you're you're the extent to which you are like have drank the Kool-Aid of the blue pill or whatever is extremely uncanny.

I just completely disagree.

I mean, I'm just Russia defender.

Are you Russia defender?

A Russia defender?

I am not a Russia defender.

No, is that is this him, guys?

I don't know what you're talking about.

But in any case, I mean, I just fundamentally disagree with your point that in fact I consider it kind of a usurpation, right?

I I think that you're kind of I guess not doing this willingly, rather consciously, but the ideology that you promote, right, is an ideology that seeks to undermine the very interests of the people that you're advocating for, right?

You're you are imagine like imagine like

You are a um so you're an American, right?

But you want to lose in like all of these conflicts, right?

You're an American, right, but you want their government to come crumbling down, right?

You we have to support these institutions, right?

We have to support our country, right?

That is what we must do, right?

Yeah, but I'm operating under the premise.

Well, no, I'm operating under the premise we're uh we're under an occupation government and we have no popular sovereignty.

So theoretically, if my goal is to remove the occupation, I want the occupation government to lose.

I mean, yeah, I'm well aware that's your that's your belief.

I think that's just fundamentally wrong though and kind of cucked.

Well I think we've lost popular sovereignty.

I just don't think that's the case.

I mean, just because our current administration isn't ideal doesn't mean that there is a is our government in debt to the private sector?

Yes.

Is it in debt to private banks?

Yeah, and are those banks accountable to we the people?

No.

So who controls the government?

What's that?

So who gets to control government policy and leverage everything the government does because the government has to pay back these debts?

Yeah, but a government but a government like so you you're you're assuming under this assumption, right, that they're that even elections are like a fraud, right?

That nobody's not.

Yeah, every election in the U.S.

is a fraud.

Well, obviously they are not, right?

That is the single person totally.

They're all fake and rigged.

Every single one.

Obviously not, right?

But obviously they are.

They clearly are.

They're all fake.

No, I mean, you're just such you're you're you're you're far too radical.

They're all fake.

You have to you have to ground in in reality.

If I ran for election, I wouldn't stand a chance because I don't have any of these banks.

Yeah, you wouldn't stand a chance.

I agree, right?

People don't want to go.

But if randomly one of these bankers woke up and scratched their ass in such a way that inspired them to support me, I would be president.

I just I mean, no, you would still not be president if one of the banksters decided to wake up on the wrong side of the bed and give me a check of 500 million, I could easily like be a really serious contestant in the election.

I mean, wealth wealth is very important.

Don't get me wrong.

No, it's like the only thing that matters, basically.

I would not say it's the only thing that matters.

Yeah, the only even Donald Trump had to like rely on all this money he had because he's like a rich guy.

Like at the end of the day, if you don't have money, you don't have a fucking chance.

It's just how it works.

Yeah, but once you like, w if you have a person in power that right that is truly committed uh to um yeah, but every everyone who's in power has to have a lot of money, so how can it really be you know, how can it really be a popular sovereignty, you know?

It's kinda fucking stupid when you think about it.

I mean, even if, even if I were to give you this, right?

Even if I were to give you this, it's not just a lot of money.

Like, it's so much money.

It's so much money that it's like, it's a way to filter out whether you're part of this unaccountable shadows, shadowy status quo or not.

Like, it's not just like you have to have $20 million.

It's like, no, you have to have billions and hundreds of millions of dollars to even have a chance.

It's like, sorry, that's just like, that's just like bullshit.

That's not popular sovereignty.

It's kind of nonsense.

I mean, even by those standards, right?

Like, even if I were to grant you all of this, right, then what country is actually democratic?

Like, none, right?

What country is that?

Russia and China.

Oh, so true, right?

The country where the same guy's been in power for like 14 years, right?

Totally democratic, right?

Like, yeah, power in that, and power in those countries is based on how much you work for the people.

That's it.

Yeah, but even if the people were to, even if the people, like, even if the people, I'm not saying, like, oh, all the Russians hate Putin, right?

Because obviously, like, there are tons of millions of Russians that, you know, love and like Vladimir Putin, of course.

But even if they didn't, right?

Like, who's going to, he controls the weapons, right?

Political power comes out of the barrel of a gun, right?

Like, he is still.

So if people don't like him, they could just overthrow him and have a new guy.

Yeah, I just don't think that's a very realistic thing, right?

Like, I think it is because in those countries, there's no illusions.

We don't here we have illusions.

We have the illusion that we could just vote our way into having a voice.

And, you know, in Russia, nobody thinks that.

Nobody thinks that, oh, we could just, I mean, nobody thinks that, like, oh, yeah, I'm just going to like fucking, you know, democratically elect a different guy.

It's more like, look.

If he's not showing results, people are gonna start getting discontented and it's gonna be felt.

That's why Putin is very Western European countries.

I mean, how can you even argue that there's not democracy here?

It's very clear that when people are discontent, right, they're gonna go out to vote, right?

And they're gonna change look at just at what happened in France, right?

They're gonna change the policies, right?

What changed in France?

I mean with the I mean even with the whole not just specifically uh the last two days nothing changed literally nothing changed but oh no but obviously it has I mean when people when people get out nothing changes go to the polls right and there's going to be nothing changed material change there's going to be material nothing changed get me wrong politics takes time but nothing changed nothing changed

I j I don't know.

I just think that is uh you know, not just a pessimistic view, but just not a not a very realistic.

Nothing changed.

So nothing ever happens, yeah?

Hmm.

Not under liberal democracies.

I don't think that's true.

I mean, I think that we have a very extensive canon of uh US history that tells us that th things have happened, right?

Things have changed for the better and for the worse, right?

Not through elections.

Of course through elections, right?

Like do you think that or you are you really want to believe that like if um

You know, if uh if if if FDR hadn't been elected, right, we would have uh managed to get out of the Great Depression in the same way or like uh you know obviously these changes are important, right?

Like yeah, but that was before, you know, that was before the country got hijacked totally and completely.

When did the country get hijacked?

When Truman became president.

So true.

It's literally true.

Literally directly after FDR, the country started becoming occupied.

How what about what if you talk about like social policies?

I mean you you not you you don't think like social like social stuff has some major implications, right?

Like even even in um even in um when when we gave uh you know minorities the right to vote, right?

Does isn't that a substantial change in the nation?

Mm, superficially.

I mean, like, I guess Yeah, how do you mean superficially?

I mean, we're talking about second flight.

I mean, it was a mor it was a moral victory, but tangibly it didn't really change much.

I just I I just think you know you're blinded by your worldview, right?

Like this is something that's very very easy to see, right?

I mean obviously millions of people were elevated to better conditions, right?

I'm not saying that's perfect, right?

But but they were, right?

I mean and now they're dying of fentanyl and suicide because they're watching fucking TikToks because we're funding Ukraine, right?

Yeah.

Anyway, I don't like you because you're a fucking Gentile, fucking Goyam retard.

If he was Jewish, I would have liked him, but he's not a fellow Semite, he's a Gentile.

It's pathetic.

Anyway, let's bring on the next guys.

Minion, what's up?

Go ahead, Minion.

What's going on?

Alright, five, four, three, two, one.

You're fucking out.

Speak.

Yo, hello?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Are you said that uh Jews have no influence in like the modern day banking system or whatever, or historically?

Go ahead and show me wh where I said they have no influence at all.

No, no, no, not no.

Like you said that oh, they were like like just normal like backwater like pickpockets.

In the Middle Ages there was no usurious institutions the Jews controlled, not in the Middle Ages.

Alright, what do you think about, you know, the Bank of England and the Bank of Amsterdam, which are the basis for modern day central banking?

Wasn't controlled by Jews.

So it kinda was though.

Mm.

Based on what?

Uh if you look at the VLC, for example, uh it was the largest shareholder in the Bank of Amsterdam, and the largest shareholder in the VLC was a Jew.

I'll show it to you, hold up.

I show you proof that Aji was the largest shareholder.

in the VOC.

By the way, this was in the this was in the Middle Ages?

No no no, we're talking about the bank of Amsterdam.

This is like the rise of capitalism like s the sixteen nineties on the yeah, go ahead and show me.

Yeah, okay.

By the way, you know what the like, who created the Bank of England?

Uh fucking Gentile.

Goyem.

So basically what's it called?

What do you want me to post Eld if I can't post it?

Did my can I like join and leave 'cause my VC's bugging.

I need to restart.

Well you don't have to just link it.

No, like my thing is frozen like I can't.

Well go get your fucking life together.

Dude, hold up pause, pause, pause.

I'll I'll show it to you after I'll give all the citations and shit, okay?

You can go back to the back of the line.

Nice guy, what's going on?

Yo, what's going on?

Hey, huss, how are ya?

Yeah, what's up?

Um I was just sort of thinking o about one guy from Twitter.

No, no, it's not.

Please don't.

Yeah, okay.

Anyway, what's up?

Um I was just sort of thinking about because I mean, okay, I'm that guy, I'm that Wig Nash guy that uh sometimes comes on here and destroys communists.

Um but uh I've I've been sort of distancing myself from that circle because it kind of became a bit too self-indulgent into the philosophies of Nisha.

And uh there was a lot of homosexuality and other kind of uh uh stuff going on.

But I have been sort of uh studying this from

Um from my own perspective and and and the the d the developments that have been taking place.

And I'm starting to understand what the mass appeal of Nazism, neo-Nazism is, especi uh specifically in Europe and and the US.

And in my opinion I think that uh it is going to take Europe uh in a very swift wave and it's going to happen very quickly.

Uh in in in it in a span of maybe like one or two days.

There's going to be like a night of dagger kind of thing.

Well, not days from now, but it's going to all of those things will occur quite sporadically.

What do you think?

Yeah, what's going to happen?

Like, what is all going to?

I think there is a lot of suppression of emotions and frustrations.

And the more the left is going to conglomerate and antagonize these kind of anti-immigrant impulses, the more these people are going to hold a kind of a wave of repression that's going to hit.

And I think that's basically how right-wing stuff really works.

They just sort of take over instead of just slowly developing.

Yeah, I mean, I think everything is based on organization, and I don't think the right is capable of that.

I think that, you know, some of them can be chosen by actual established powerful people and then, you know, basically given a bunch of money to do whatever.

But that's not just a sporadic burst of passion.

That's a kind of, you know, Nazi Germany type of thing.

So, but I don't, I don't see us entering that scenario right now.

But I am curious about what all this Twitter stuff's building up to.

I mean, like.

I look at Lucas Gage.

I look at Lucas Gage.

And I see a real life.

thing of like yelling at Chinese people.

about the Jews.

Because of the Chinese food.

You know, I see that, but I don't see that really going anywhere.

You know, I don't really, I don't know where that's going.

No, no, no.

I don't think that kind of Nazism is going anywhere.

Because this is like, this is like overt expulsion of emotions.

And I'm not really talking about that.

But that's what Twitter has become at the moment.

It's like this, you know, this logical conclusion to this absolutist free speech stuff where, you know, people are just sort of airing any kind of frustrations they have after seeing some random video of a black guy beating up a white guy.

And then, you know, there are people, opportunist entrepreneurs who are kind of taking, exploiting that to make money.

And that's what it's become, like this rage-baiting machine.

I'm not talking about that.

I'm talking about a more complex kind of organized and intellectualized formation of like this Nazism, which is based on the philosophy of Nietzsche.

And I also find that quite interesting because it specifically flirts with your vanity by I'm talking about Nietzscheism, Nietzscheanism, where it specifically tries to inflate your ego.

And this is really what the basis of modern writering movement is.

It's like just pure ego and aestheticism, and just aesthetics and ego.

They don't really have anything else.

They just have this kind of, well, we look good.

And we always see that.

I see that as an infinite regression, where it's like we look good, but simultaneously there's this kind of spiral to the bottom where the fleeting image of perfection is always seems like it's almost at your grasp.

But each day that passes, it's just less and less close to you.

And I see that as a kind of a mode of degeneracy and decay.

And

Have you ever seen The Purge?

I have not.

Is that a book?

No, it's like a movie.

No, no, I have not.

No.

Uh, it's basically a movie where there's a night where there's no laws every day in America and like

People can like do whatever they want.

So, like, everyone goes crazy and just starts, like, you know, like torturing and murdering each other and like wearing masks and like all this crazy stuff.

And I can see a lot of this leading up to that.

But then I think to myself, that doesn't last very long, and it's a very convenient pretext for new forms of political authority to arise in the name of putting all that chaos to an end.

And then that's what we'll basically end with.

But I do sense that people are.

Venting

But

I don't do you think that could be hijacked for like mobilizing for war?

Like if we go to war, you know, the West goes to war, could that be channeled into a kind of morale?

Yeah, obviously.

I mean, that's all they have.

It's, it's, it's, I mean, like, that's like the basis of modern, or not just modern, just like classic European or Anglo-Protestant, Anglo-German philosophy, is that you have to, I mean, you, you know, if you look at the Faustian spirit, Goethe is Faust, he he says he asks a very good question, which is, what moves the spirit, specifically of the Western man?

And then he just tragically comes to this conclusion, this really silly conclusion that he moves himself, which is which is crazy because on the East you have so many people, you know, but you've got Buddha, Tsao, all they're all speculating, like, what are the cosmic laws and how does this happen?

And on the other hand, you have this Garth who says, oh, I actually move myself.

I motivate myself and I create all of these ideas and desires myself.

So, and this is really just you're just cycling a form of self-conceitism.

And you're telling yourself, well, I'm the greatest that has ever been.

And my country's, I mean, obviously, Europe has never been always great.

It's been quite poor for most of its history.

But, you know, you just keep conflating your ego.

And in order to do that, you have to keep attacking people.

You have to push out your outer form.

And that would be my explanation as to why.

I think one of the central contradictions of modernity, this is an interesting conversation.

We can't draw it out too long.

But I think one of the central contradictions of modernity is.

That there is a difference.

Even i it's not so much we have to dichotomize a cult of selfhood versus the selfless kind of um.

Reality of some, you know, ulterior kind of larger being, you know, some larger cosmo cosmos within which the self is just a part.

But there is an irreconcilable difference between the self.

as it really is, as it really exists,

And the conceit of the self, right?

And I think that is there in the beginning, even with the principle of logos in the pre-Socratics and in Heraclitus.

On the one hand, you know, there is the objective reality of thought or the selfhood and so on.

And then on the other hand, there is the immediacy which that reality impresses upon us, which we confuse to be the same as that reality, and which we reduce that reality to.

So, for example, the self is a great example.

We confuse the self for what we see in the mirror, because that is the immediacy of the self.

Or we reduce the self to the immediate product of thought, like with Descartes.

I think, therefore, I am.

I have nothing but my capacity to verify that I am a thinking being.

I am thinking, right?

Therefore, I exist.

And this is a kind of the reduction of being to the kind of affect of immediate affect.

It's immediate affect.

And the trick is that the grain of truth is that, of course, what you see in the mirror is a part of what you are.

It's involved.

It has some relation, at least.

And of course, your thought is related to your being at least.

But it's the exclusion, reduction, where you say, I am only what I see in the mirror.

That's all it is, right?

I am only to the extent that I am immediate to my senses or to myself.

Yes.

And whereas the uh selfhood actually contains a kind of holistic cosmos that premise the possibility of the thinking consciousness itself.

So that's the paradox.

And European civilization, I think,

Is tending toward the has always tended toward the question of yes, strongly emphasizing uh

the kind of uh relationship between the immediacy of being and being itself.

And we can't just say it's a spiral purely into oblivion like Heidegger does, because there is a relationship between those.

That European civilization was to at least some extent correctly recognizing, right, in ways that other civilizations were not.

They were recognizing moments of the immediacy of the self and of being in ways that others were not.

This is like modern science, all this kind of stuff.

Kepler, Galileo, whatever.

Um

But then the problem is like there's always the golden age of Europe and then the problem of degeneration, the cycle of golden age and renaissance and then degeneration.

And for other civilizations, the cause of this cycle is clear.

It's Ibn Khaldun talks about it.

It's the problem of nomads coming in, conquering, invigorating, reinvigorating people's honor.

Then they get complacent and too comfortable and decay and the whole thing starts again, right?

Then they get reconquered.

Yeah, it's the national cycle.

But that's not really the cycle of Europe.

Europe's cycle is a kind of moment of brilliant, a brilliance, moment of brilliance in which an immediacy of being is beheld and recognized, where it would otherwise have been drowned out into the background and the noise of convention, right?

And then this leads to kinds of discoveries and innovations and stuff.

But then the problem begins where being is reduced to that immediacy.

The reduction happens to the exclusion of its premises.

So you have a problem of a kind of brilliance arising.

But its own premises are occluded to it and excludes its own premises.

Even, you know, you know who talks about this is Nick Land, where

Kant's Capital, The Prohibition of Incest, is probably one of my favorite things he's ever written.

But I think he shuns that work.

I don't agree with it entirely, but he basically says.

It's like there is a kind of exclusionary mechanism

Of Western civilization with regard to its actual material premises, that it has to kind of filter, it extracts them, but it filters them in the process of extraction to the point where it's kind of excluding this outside.

It's denying it and excluding it while simultaneously.

Deriving its kind of

Its basis from, right?

It's order from.

So it's a very interesting kind of thing.

But more specifically,

Just to conclude, I know I've been rambling, but just to conclude, I think the moment unique to us now.

is very much uh specific, although there's historical patterns.

But this one is specific to the age of social media and the information age, and more specifically, this kind of uh

The way the ego has become distributed and socialized and basically collectivized, right, through social media and through this kind of the phenomenology, if you will, of mass media, the way that the relationship we have to our own immediacy of self and existence is mediated to us through the kind of spectacle of the internet and um

And uh

Not just mass media, but social media.

The era of mass media is the late 20th century, right?

This is social media.

Which is very different.

Social media is about cybernetics, it's about feedback loops.

Mass media is not about likes, it's not about engagement.

Social media is about methods by which our egos are validated, are confirmed, and the whole thing that drives the Groiper community.

These kinds of rituals of

Of exclusion and inclusion and recognition and so on and so and humiliation.

All of these things are now mediated in a purely phenomenological way that has been totally detached from the immediacy of our experience.

And I think a lot of gripers are particularly effective, but only in the West.

This kind of thing would not work outside because the West particularly is prone to conditioning, to this kind of mass conditioning.

And you can say it comes out of this kind of social contract or the categorical imperative.

But sorry.

Yeah.

No, just real quick.

I think, you know, the thing in the West is that, look, China has the same technology we have, social media, but the reason they don't have that is because.

It doesn't think it doesn't occur to them to reduce the whole of their civilization to the social media, right?

There's a clear, substantive.

unconscious reality of civilization there that they recognize and acknowledge.

Our crisis in the West is that we're searching for our civilization and our existence only to the extent that we could reduce it to this kind of form of social media.

And I think

What we're seeing is a huge reflection of that.

But it's not social media.

I mean, social media is an accelerant, as you said.

It's the acceleration of the feedback group to make it smaller.

But it accelerates something that is already there, which is this kind of conditioning, the way everybody is conditioned and follows the same kind of logic, the same kind of ideas, same kind of things.

And I think the Groipers have kind of almost perfected that to a T because what they're doing is kind of performative and it doesn't make sense.

It's really dumb.

But they know that this is how it works.

And I think it comes directly from the Catholic Church, the way it conditioned Catholic countries.

But in my opinion, I think that the basis of right-wing is a lot more than just the hyperfixation of the consciousness.

Because I do agree that, yeah, they are not concerned with the holistic form of self.

They're mostly concerned with the immediate form of self, which is the conscious self.

And they ignore what their inner self is actually thinking.

They ignore anything that's going on in the unconscious or the subconscious.

And they develop these kinds of very strange complexes like homosexuality and transgenderism, which is extremely common in right-wing circles nowadays.

They become these kind of reclusive, conniving, anti-hero villains who say, Oh, one day I'm going to rule everything.

One day we are going to rule the whole world.

And I think that there is something there is something to it.

There's a pattern to it which is congruent with the nineteen thirties.

And to me, it would be a very big challenge to fight that because not only are they just completely mentally unhinged, but they're also just sort of worshipping violence in a very corrupt way.

They've almost turned violence into a kind of a religion and they're hoping for it.

And I don't think that it's going to be something that can be combated by this kind of an immediate reaction.

But I do find communism interesting in those regards because Stalin was able to overcome Hitler.

And this is kind of like a controversial thing.

But the only reason I think Stalin was able to overcome him was because he decided to not be a recluse and he decided to

And and I think that's that's going to be like the main uh kind of a challenge to form alliances and not be betrayed and be ready.

Because i I I don't I think that neo uh Nazism or neo-Nazism, whatever you wanna call it, it is kind of inevitable and it has some kind of uh

A a very

A certain mass appeal.

Yeah, I mean I I I see there's the mass appeal.

I s I see it.

I I just don't know where exactly where it's going, like in the specifics, and that's what I'm interested in.

I mean, I don't see where it's going politically.

I don't see their capacity to form coalitions and organically form mass movements.

But I think the ex my prediction has always been that we are headed for some kind of war, you know, probably.

And I think this ideology would be very accommodating to that.

I mean, how else are you gonna raise morale?

Why else would people wanna fight in a war, if not this kind of nihilistic cult of violence or whatever, you know?

Nobody believes in democracy or whatever anymore, you know?

Yeah, yeah.

Uh what do you think about this new wave of um

Indian right-wing is and the way that you're talking about the I was really thinking about that and I find it so fascinating because

I think there is some kind of

hidden I don't know, I wouldn't say hidden, I would say like there is a um super historical relation.

Like there's some deeper cunning of reason that's uniting this Hindufta

stuff with the Western right wing.

And I'm not just saying that in terms of like the shared aff affili uh you know, interest in Indo European, you know, whatever, esotericism.

That's a superficial view.

But I think

There's something there's I I feel like the zeitgeist, the spiritual heart and core of this is actually coming from India.

And it's like you think about it and it's like the professional managerial class of America and Britain in particular is increasingly just imported from India, from the Brahmin caste.

It's incredible.

I don't know if you know this.

In the US, the number two in immigration group

Is India?

In the US, not Britain, you know.

Um

I do think that's quite true.

And I do think that considering the number of gods they've had and almost every religion, almost every religious leader has been through that place, I think it is sort of formed the spiritual core of the world.

And it also kind of indicates, its emergence also indicates that the war that we're kind of heading towards is going to be a spiritual war.

It's not going to be like a...

But I don't mean to cut you off, but like, isn't it interesting how like this you mentioned the stuff about the ego and how like that's at the core of this is like you combine that with the dynamics of social media There's a strange archaeo futuristic logic where like none of this is new to India none of it

I know the caste system is a meme, but it's a real thing.

There's like a real caste system.

There is a.

Religiously based sense that some are literally higher than others and.

you can see the egotism of the kind of

Indian na uh I don't know, Indian ultra right, and ha we see it because of the comical proportions it it it has led to, but it's like it's the pure and dist und it's pure and distilled pure ego.

It's not even rooted in any kind of reality.

It's just the pure ego, right?

Um, I think you're referring to uh the the system of Varna from the Manusrami uh Manushmirti.

And another thing is like you watch Bollywood movies and there's always these like dance scenes.

They're famous for them, but it's like they're very like narcissistic when you think about it because it's like it's literally like hundreds of people all choreographically dancing about like one main character like to celebrate them and basically glaze the fuck out of them.

So it's literally like the fantasy of like imagine you're outside and like literally everyone is dancing and thinking about you and it's all for you.

And it's like this kind of like spectacle of narcissism.

You know?

I like the part where the the girl and the boy are about to kiss and they just before just before their lips touch they just start dancing the whole whole crowd just converges.

No, I don't think that the no, I disagree with that because I have studied quite a lot of Vedic texts.

Not as much as I'd like to have because there's so much.

But I can decisively say that there is no genetic or genus basis of caste or the Varnas.

Varna was was designed basically to the the the main focus was just to separate the Brahmin class from the Kshatriya class, the the the the ascetics from the warriors.

Because what the warriors would do is that they would kill everybody, right?

And after taking over a land, they would kill everybody.

But the ascetics were supposed to be the spiritual leaders.

They didn't really have a side or they didn't believe in violence at all.

They were vegetarians.

So the Varna the the concept of Varna was to sort of make make sure that there are sacred things that you don't destroy.

You don't destroy temples.

You don't destroy innocent people and and the rest was basically just you know I think that's probably the historical but I think in modern India, you know, like I really see the patterns of the Western far right like you want it, it's in India today, you know?

Like I feel like that is like that is the sorry?

That's all reactionary though.

It's not it's I think it's like it's like that kind of formative racism that y you would have on 4chan.

I mean now it's quite real.

Now it's definitely real.

I'm just saying like I see the the the Western far right like its zeitgeist is in is in today's India.

Like already.

I don't think so.

I think it's the opposite.

I think that this kind of uh right-wing reactionism to liberal academics, like this kind of Trotsky's academics, who basically always attack the the ruling class or the upper upper middle class.

Like, you know, you know how you had these people in academia attack white people.

Similarly, they do the exact same thing.

Yeah, in India.

Yeah, yeah, I see what you're saying.

But there's still like you sorry?

It's just a reaction.

And most of them don't even.

Oh, that's what you mean by reactionary.

Sure, but isn't there always like mob violence and stuff like happening all the time where they're attacking minorities and stuff?

That's propaganda.

That's propaganda.

Yeah.

The mob violence.

No.

So, okay, I know you won't believe me, but I recently, if you look into it, if you look into it, every single time there's like some kind of a violent thing, every single time there's a rape case.

Like, imagine talking about every single rape case that occurs in Libya.

Yeah.

That never happens.

In India, whenever it happens, it's like world news.

Like, what's going on in India?

I don't know why.

I really cannot tell you why India, everybody, the whole world is so fixated in India when if you compare the numbers, US is way far ahead in violence and in rape cases.

But this country of like vegetarian beta males who can barely lift like a brick, they're not capable of committing violence.

Why are they so fixated upon and like that?

I don't know.

But I hate to wrap it up here, but it's getting real late and I gotta bring this idiot on.

I understand, yes.

Thanks for having me on.

Yeah, thanks for good discussion.

See ya.

So yeah.

Alright, Minion.

Alright, so I'm looking at your links.

And where are you saying that they ran the Bank of Amsterdam and they owned it?

Where is that?

If you look in the the chat, you'll see that I linked sources showing the largest holder in VOC was a Jew.

Which link is that?

It's not well, I gave a link and I also gave a screenshot.

But what am I is this William of Orange?

Yeah.

Alright, so William of Orange was financially backed by Yo, Sammy Basig, what's up?

Financially backed by Antanio Lopez, a Jewish banker who was the leading shareholder in who was a leading shareholder in the Dutch West India Company.

He placed two million at William's disposal, which cost a total of seven.

What am I supposed to make of this?

Okay, where does it say that they own the Bank of England in Amsterdam?

Okay, so for for England?

Okay, so for England after he got a bunch of loans from the Bank of Amsterdam, he marched on the most majority of Bank of England and Bank of Amsterdam at this time.

Well, the b I'm I'm getting there.

I'm gonna explain it in the middle of the morning.

By the way, this guy's not even an Ashkenazi, he's Sephardic, so it's kinda stupid, right?

No, they're, you know, they're all like different types of Jews, but they're still Jews.

Yeah, sure.

And I do agree that they're very, like, bickering and, like, legalistic, but they, like, when it comes to like...

Don't, don't, don't walk it back.

I need the evidence that they own these banks.

Okay, okay.

So, as I said, after the fact that, you know, he supported William in his military campaigns, he marched on London in 1690 when the English king died.

Can you just break these numbers down for me?

Like, statistics and tell instead of telling me a bedtime story.

No, no, it it matters.

It matters 'cause he created the Bank of England as well.

Who created the Bank of England?

Uh, William the Orange and his supporting, like, financers and what not.

So so so you're claiming the Jews created the Bank of England.

Where's your evidence?

I showed you that the largest shareholder or one of the largest shareholders.

You told me that one guy funded his military expedition.

Yeah, I saw it.

Where's the evidence that?

That so hold up one guy gave him two out of the seven million uh for his expedition and that guy was a Sephardic Jew from Spain.

Can I all right let me let me explain okay?

So he used that money to march on London and then they gave him more money to like fund a series of different wars.

The reason he created the Bank of England was to invest and also pay off the debt from but where's but the majority of the debt wasn't the Jewish guy.

It was I mean you're saying the seven million in debt is what created the Bank of England?

Well look you you gave me one military expedition where two out of seven of the million for that expedition was a Jew.

Now you're talking about other military expeditions.

Where's the evidence that Jews formed a mi you know, where's the Jews in those expeditions?

Can you give us those?

Yeah, okay.

So it shows in the link that he gave the money to him in I believe sixteen ninety, correct?

Where?

The the link.

It's in the link.

Not just the picture.

It's the first one.

The first one.

Alright, the first one.

I believe you you guys are.

That was the military expedition for seven million dollars, okay?

Yeah, yeah, and he marched on it says what year?

1688.

Okay, so that's like around when the uh King Charles II died and he used that money to march on the city of London relatively easily.

And uh after like he needed more money to you know maintain a personal union between him and the Queen of England, the Queen Consort of England.

Uh so like he created the Bank of England, William the Orange.

You can like look it up like in Google and see that he created uh the Bank of England in 1690 I believe.

to pay off said debt.

And then but but the majority of the debt wasn't a Jew though.

So you're saying two million out of the seven million like that that's a lot of money though.

But the Bank of England, first of all, i but that's not what your link says.

Your link doesn't say that the bank of England was formed.

No, I I give her multiple links though.

But where does where is the proof that the Bank of England was formed to pay off Antonio Lopez Suazzo?

You okay.

Look, you can it's on Wikipedia.

Where?

The the it's on Wikipedia, the reason uh words.

So link it.

Link me what you're talking about.

You haven't linked it.

It's oh, okay.

Hold up.

Let me pull it up.

You know what?

You linked me?

You linked me some retarded schizo nonsense.

What the hell?

I gave it multiple links.

This is why he linked me.

This is a Twitter fucking meme for the mentally retarded.

You have to do better than that with me, dude.

I actually care about truth.

You just can't fabricate an image.

I'm not a fucking idiot.

I'm not fabricating it.

It gives a citation.

Some schizobabble non-communication.

It gives a citation, though.

It gives a citation.

Where's the primary source it's citing?

It's below.

You're looking at the black screen one, right?

I'm not looking at the screen.

But, like, see, this is a fucking JPEG with a citation to make it look legit, but then if I probably look this up, there's nothing.

I mean, it's there for you to look it up.

You're asking for it.

No, why isn't this ever compiled in like a fucking article where I can click the link?

It's always compiled.

No, no, it's funny because it's compiled in a book, The History of Central Banking.

Show me the link the primary source that justifies the pro it's the it's fucking linking the learned elders of the protocol of Zion.

Oh my god No, but the other links around it also corroborate like the the link elders of Zion no like the other links I gave as well like with them also funding the new model army with Cromwell and stuff you're saying the Jews funded Cromwell now

Yeah, they also funded funded him in killing uh he actually re-adminched uh adminished the Jews back into Sephardic Jews in the early and the early years of the Bank of England.

Let's check it out.

Uh in the chapter on the proprietors and the this is a b paywalled, by the way, uh the late Sir John Clement called attention to the high percentage of Spanish and Portuguese names of Jews of the Sephardim which appeared in the list of the proprietors in the bank's early years.

He noted that in 1701 those names constituted a full ninth of the group of one hundred and seven proprietors.

A whole ninth

Yeah, and also there were like one of the things that he okay, yeah, but in relative sense, there's only two million Jews in the entire world at that time.

Yeah, but the eight out of nine, that's just like, don't pay attention to the don't pay attention to the don't pay attention to the ninety percent.

I'm not hold up no no no no no no I'm not saying that uh they don't play a part in like Protestants don't play a part in that there's a parallel with the Bank of Amsterdam where there was 25 Jews among the 731 yeah 25 and there's 7 think that there's there's 2 million Jews in the world in the entire world okay and they like they gave 2 million out of the 7 million to fund Cromwell and they all funded Cromwell at that time at not all of them no just the the Muranos which were crypto Jews like literal crypto Jews so this isn't about Jewish control anymore it's about the disproportionate representation of no no I'm I'm saying I'm saying the disproportionate amount of them in the government or whatever banks or whatever this is crazy yeah it helped them to like you told me they founded the bank but you told me they founded the bank but in 17 no I said I said they funded William of Orange to found the bank in order to like pay off debt and but you didn't link any evidence of that this this link only says that in 1701 a person Sir John Clagfam claims that a ninth of the group of a hundred and seven held four thousand stock and upwards

Which was qualification for governors.

No, but I no, no, I'm talking about in 1690 when he actually like funded like the actual sources for that.

So we're talk we're I I did.

I gave a source for for showing that uh he funded William of Orange.

So seven so ten years pass.

And the Jews are a ninth instead of being the super majority you're claiming.

No, but they still like funded and were a part of like the like disproportionately and they did influence it as well.

Like the VOC was still very important until like after, you know, uh what's it called?

The Spanish uh s succession war.

And then and then the the major naval power after that, coincidentally, was England.

Which what are you talking about?

You're saying it's a coincidence that England became a coincidence.

I'm saying you're saying the Jews manufactured the rise of England.

Partially, yeah.

Yeah, pretty much.

So the white man is not, in fact, great.

It's just the Jews.

Otherwise, the English is not.

Not entirely.

Not entirely.

I'm saying the...

No, no, no.

You can't walk about now.

You said the Jews.

I'm talking about the banking system.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

I'm talking about the banking system.

You said the Jews...

Which one is it?

Did the white man create the modern world or the Jews did?

Alright, I'll explain the nuance to it, okay?

So you're saying they funded the various wars which led to the rise of England and whatnot, but it was their expertise and their manpower that actually led the wars.

They just funded it and in return got benefits.

Without the Jews, the white man's world, white man would still be a Shrek living in the swamp.

Not really.

They'd still be doing something.

It's just you know, the reason they gave them the money was to get readmission back into England, to get more property, to get land enclosure in the 1750s, which pushed everyone into the cities, which led to the rise of the Anglo and Jewish industrial class and a lot of stuff like that.

But the Jews are within less than a hundred years, the population went from 60% living on rural manners and whatnot, communal lands and whatnot, to being forced entirely into the urban cities and like denigrating poverty.

Yeah, but wha how were the Jews responsible for that?

Okay, so do you know what the enclosure acts were, right?

Hi, you're saying the Jews were behind the enclosures now?

This is crazy.

No, no, not not entirely, but they they did they did play a part.

No, the British landed aristocracy did that.

The landed no, I'm aware, but it was it was it was passed through Congress.

Not Congress, Parliament.

The House of Lords.

Yeah, and it was finalized prior to the.

Something the English ruling class wanted to do.

No, but in the sixt in the si in the fifteenths, the you know, English before the English war.

Yeah, it it matters because before that enclosure, right?

This enclosure happened, started around the thirteens and gradually continued onwards and rapidly happened in the seventeenth, correct?

The enclosure movement really takes off after the Civil War.

The kings uh supported various different um anti-enclosure acts.

Uh they limited certain powers and whatnot.

Like for example in 1609 after like the Ketz Rebellion which was I know, okay listen.

Yeah.

The Jews were not responsible for the English Civil War.

No, I'm not s I'm I'm saying they they they hi they, you know, funded it and they used it to get readmission back into England.

They didn't cause the Civil War itself.

But they used it for their own benefit.

Uh they got expulsed.

Yeah.

They got expressed in I believe 1299.

They were let back uh after the Civil War under Cromwell.

You can search up the readmission channel.

It was called in 1290.

Yeah.

Uh yeah, yeah, you're right.

It was Cromwell.

Just wanted to.

And by the way, it was the reason he, you know.

Wait, wait, wait, but that was.

Hold on, hold on.

Um

That was uh okay, that was informally.

No, 'cause there's a charge.

The yeah, yeah, from uh Portugal and Spain.

Yeah, those they moved to like Amsterdam and like various different areas and they adopted a sham form of Christianity, crip crypto Judaism, like literal crypto Judaism, correct?

So they formalized it by uh the charter by a guy named uh Ben Messina Israel.

I don't know how to pronounce it.

We need to get to the point here.

So you're saying the English Civil War happened to br because Jews, because they wanted to come back.

I'm saying they used the tourn turmoil in England to lobby Cromwell and give him funding to get uh you know to fund his army and essentially like get back into the land of England.

I I just mentioned uh the charter by Israel Ben Messina.

I don't know how to pronounce it.

Where's the evidence that Cromwell's army was uh

was primarily funded by Jews.

Oh, okay.

I'll give you evidence.

Uh

Search up do you know Antonio Fernando Carvolage?

Bro, just link it to me.

I'm I'm literally on stream.

Just link it so we can all look through it.

Dude, it's not for some reason it's not like letting me outside of the Mar, get in here.

I don't wanna fucking like you just you're kinda running here.

I'll give it to you like after you can show stream all that.

I'm not like all games.

Dude, it it doesn't allow me to like leave the the sidebar on the Discord thing.

Like I can't click anything else.

It's not like I don't know what you want me to do.

I can give it to you after the debate.

I'm not claiming anything.

I can give it to you after the debate.

And I can tell you the names to search up as well.

It's just very clear.

Did usury exist before in England?

And was was usury a huge thing in England before the Jews came back?

Uh like after they got expelled in the twelve nineties?

Yeah, when the guy who got he left the Catholic Church 'cause of his wife, he wanted to Yeah, I'm not saying that there's no instances of music.

No, like wasn't it really widespread?

Uh I don't know, was it?

Yes, yes, it was.

Sammy, what's up?

Hold up, hold up, though.

It was widespread, but like discussions.

Let's say it was widespread.

There was no basis for a central bank yet.

The Central Bank of England didn't exist at that time.

Like, if you look, like, most of the lands were owned by, you know, major banking institutions that are wedded to centralized political power.

I mean, you can, that goes all the way back to the early Catholic Church, the Roman Church, and then through the Crusades, you have the Templars and a bunch of others, and it's very common even in the Middle Ages.

So what are you talking about?

Okay, I'm not saying that banking never existed in the Middle Ages.

I'm saying that the basis for modern day central banking is based off the Bank of Amsterdam, the Bank of England, which were created both by well, not I don't know if the Bank of Amsterdam was created by William of Orange, but the Bank of England was created by William of Orange and the Dutch as well.

And when the Jews got expelled from Portugal and Spain, the regions that they went to were uh the Netherlands and elsewhere.

But Jews didn't create the central banks.

They just they just were they were there, I agree.

I just I you know, I just told you proof in which they funded uh w William of Orange and he needed money to pay off his various debt from the war.

Where did the Jews get the money to where did that Jew who funded William of Orange get the money to do that?

Because it was he was the largest.

You gave me evidence.

You gave me this is fucking crazy.

You gave me evidence that for one expedition, one expedition, two out of the seven million he raised came from one Jewish guy.

And that's according to the Jewish currents website you gave me.

Whatever.

But you haven't shown me these other expeditions.

Not even one.

Okay.

And then you need to explain to me something.

You need to explain to me where they got all the capital from to do that.

Okay, I'll explain to you where they got to the the capital from that.

Like many Jews were large shareholders in the VOC because you know they were very like mercantile and whatnot.

They got you know recently expulsed from you know Portugal which was a na w which was a naval power at that time before Spain entered the personal union with the VOC

Yeah, it was like one of the richest companies in the eighteen nineties.

Would yeah.

The eighteen nineties?

Not eight well my my bad.

I mean sixteen nineties.

Okay, in Portugal, what are you talking about?

No, I'm okay, dude.

I'm saying that in the 15s, the Muranos, the Portuguese, G-O-C-I-S.

I don't even know what the fuck that is.

I'm gonna be honest.

Like, what is that?

You don't know what it is?

No.

Come on.

It's the East.

It's a Dutch East India Company.

Well, so why don't you just say that?

That's the proper way to call it.

Like I like you know I think you know what the VLC is.

I think you're just I know what the okay listen I know what the Dutch India Company is but the Dutch and the Portuguese my history might be rusty I don't think they were allies were they no so how were the Jews how were the Jews from Portugal

I mean the your link told me in the Amsterdam Central Bank it's only twenty five out of the seven hundred and thirty one of the that are Jews much less than the Bank of England so like where did this okay can I can I explain okay so I'm not saying that Portugal and the Netherlands were allies I'm not saying that I'm saying that uh the Jews that lived in Portugal which was at the time a naval power they were very proactive in you know merchantry for like various different reasons uh and then they got expulsed and the place that they went to after they got expulsed was the the Netherlands and they used their uh like ability you know 'cause they were specialized in trade and whatnot prior to that in Portugal and they used that to gain prominence gradually in the uh VOC in the Netherlands.

What do you mean by dominance?

I mean, you know, the game, like shareholder, like large portions of the shareholding.

They, you know, they settled in certain parts of the East Indies, like in Indonesia.

You saw the first settlements of Jews there.

I believe there's still a synagogue there, by the way.

And, you know, they, you know, traded and basically controlled many aspects of the VOC, because they were large shareholders.

And by the way, they seized a lot of Portuguese colonies.

The VOC, that is.

Mm, and what year were they prominent in the V O C?

What w what year would you put that at?

Uh well it was a gradual process, I'd say probably they they got exposed in, I believe, the fifteen twenties from Portugal.

And you want me to show you an ethnic breakdown of uh shareholders in the VOC in sixteen oh two?

What does 1602 have to do with this?

We're talking about.

I imagine if they got expelled in the fifteen twenties and then went to the Netherlands and became big in the VOC, they would be very well represented among the shareholders.

There that there's a ninety year difference though.

We're talking about like late sixteen, sixteen nineties, you know, sixteen fifties.

I'm talking about sixteen oh two.

1602, the Netherlands wasn't like that prominent.

They gained their prominence in the 1640s and 1630s onwards.

Like before that Spain was a dominant they were still fighting a war with Spain.

Okay.

I by the way, the link I one of the links I showed you said that one of the larger shareholders.

I I posted like multiple links and like pictures as well from those links.

You haven't posted a single new link.

'Cause like literally I can't you know leave the the V C thingy.

Like it won't let me I think you know this but I'll I'll pull it up.

No, you don't know what to do.

No, I said I was gonna give it to you after the debate and you can show it to your stream.

I should start charging fucking interest on these promises you're making 'cause it's been thirty fucking minutes and I've been waiting for you to give me a fucking link.

Okay.

Jewish shareholder per percentage.

in VLC.

And by the way, the one of the things I showed you that specific Jew was a large shareholder in the VOC.

But I'll I'll show you another one.

Okay.

So according to

The world's first stock exchange, Jewish Traders by Lodwigi Petrom, a Polish guy.

It says um

Around sixteen ninety, eighty f eighty f eight eighty five percent of trade and shares was in Jewish hands.

The overwhelming proportion of Jewi Jews who came to play Okay, do you want me to link it to you or?

After the debate or

Columbia Scholarship Abstract.

Chapter focuses on the presence of Jewish traders in a stock market in Amsterdam during the 17th century.

It starts by looking at the dispute between Joseph and his cousin Jacob over the option that was entered signing a contract.

There is a discord between the Pereiriers on the question whether an option transaction actually existed.

Around 1690, 85% of the trade in shares was in Jewish hands.

The overwhelming proportion of the Jews came to play were Portuguese.

In order to know who to trust when trading in shares, Menez Margaret was important.

It was very much brokers' advantage that their guild also admitted a small number of Jews.

Mm-hmm.

Uh I need a I need more context for this.

I mean the paragraph said I gave you context about the Portuguese Jewish people.

I need to read more about where this is coming from because this is a pretty crazy claim.

85% of trade insurance was in Jewish hands in 1690.

That's interesting.

It's not though.

It kind of corroborates what I said.

Well, it's also it's it would corroborate what you said about the VOA, but I need to double check it because it's only showing me one paragraph of an abstract and I can't look through the book.

Okay.

And I'm trying to find ways to do that, so give me a second.

I'm pretty sure there's like a uh there's more if you like look around.

Door uh

Columbia University Press Online Access and then just type the the name of the book and the guy and then like Jews or whatever, I don't know.

Yo an artist, what's up?

By the way the Pereira guys, I'm pretty sure doesn't even sound familiar, I'm pretty sure I I looked into these guys before.

I'm gonna pull them up.

Um

Uh all right, we have 28 se wow this is gonna be a long time.

I'm legally buying this book right now.

I'm I'm purchasing it and the purchase is uh

For some fucking reason taking seven minutes to fuck this.

It would just come to you like naturally.

I expect that this is not exactly what it seems.

I don't know.

I mean, it's coming from like Columbia University, Lynn Richards.

I'm pretty sure that's a guy who comes up to the city.

This is just an abstract, and it's a sentence in an abstract.

And I want to do my due diligence.

Yeah, you can do that.

I don't know what context would make it seem like 85% of the shareholders is not that big.

They're not saying share, but this is why I think it's weird.

Okay, not shareholders.

What are they saying?

They're saying shareholders.

They're very ambiguous saying 85% of the trade in shares is in Jewish hands.

I don't know what that means, though.

Okay, so that means simultaneously, it also claims.

that it's conditioning what they meant by Jewish hands.

That in order to know who to trust when trading shares, mediation by brokers was important.

So when it came to mediating in bargains involving shares,

It was very much to the brokers' advantage that their guild admitted a small number of Jews.

So does this mean that, you know, that a small number of Jews were utilized for 85% of the trade?

Or does it mean that literally 85% of the trade is controlled by Jews?

So we have to get to the bottom of this.

You know, like somebody, a real estate broker, right?

They organize like and advertise like selling a house to somebody or whatever.

The real estate brokers themselves, it's saying the brokers themselves, the people who get people to buy in and like do stuff like that, weren't Jewish, but the people who actively got to the bottom of this.

He's giving me this link.

These Jews that we're talking about here were not engaging in usury.

They were doing quick trades.

They were doing trade that was settled very quickly.

And they were selling to other people.

So they were selling shares to other people, doing quick trade.

They were brokers.

They weren't engaging in usury.

No, no, okay.

We're talking about how much of the percentage of shareholders are not being talked about at all here.

Okay, yeah, it is.

It says, like, it doesn't say specific word shareholders, but it says holders of like the shares, which is basically the same.

No, it's it's not.

Listen, okay, it's not saying I think you're being really 85% of the trade in shares, okay?

Okay, what is a shareholder?

Because acting as brokers for other people, you fucking read retard.

Shut up for a second.

Shut your mouth for a second.

I have to mute this guy.

He's an animal.

Shut your mouth for a second.

They are brokering when all these bigger people who actually own their shares want to sell their shares.

The Jews are brokering the transactions.

That's what it says.

So it's not that the Jews are controlling.

It's very misleading.

They're not, they don't own the shares.

They're facilitating the selling of the shares as brokers, doing quick trades that are settled in a matter of days.

Okay.

Holy shit.

It's like you don't fucking read and you just have this knee-jerk reaction.

All right, go ahead.

Okay, in the thing itself, it explicitly said that the people doing the brokering were a minority Jewish.

The shareholders themselves who own the shares are 85% Jewish.

Where does it say that?

Where does it fucking say that?

All right.

You want me to read it again or what?

Yeah, read it.

Read where it says that the majority of the shareholders were Jewish and that the people who were buying them were only a minority were Jews.

Because you don't understand what you try to interpret.

Listen, I'll read it to you.

You're talking about this abstract, right?

I will read it to you.

Understand this.

85% of trade in shares was in Jewish hands.

So they're qualifying that by saying if companies wanted to sell their shares, okay, or trade in shares, they had to utilize a small number of Jews as brokers.

That's what they mean by the Jews being in their hands.

Not that the Jews actually own it, just that they're acting as brokers facilitating the quick trade.

You don't understand what you're reading.

Okay, so when it says that 85% is in the hands of Jews, and then it prefaces after that or whatever, by saying that a minority were, what's it called, the actual ones doing the brokering.

I think you have the other way around.

No, it's that 85% of the shares were utilizing that minority within the firms who were used for brokering.

That's what it says.

What?

No, hold up.

85% of the trade relied.

On utilizing a minority of Jewish brokers.

That's what it says.

Okay, uh what what was the website again 'cause I left it?

I don't think it's academic.op Columbia Scholarship Online.

Columbia Scholarship Online.

And the book is called The World's First Stock Exchange.

Okay, so it says around 1690, 85% of the trade in shares was in Jewish hands.

The overwhelming proportion of Jews who came to play play such an important role in share trading were Portuguese Jews.

Also.

Can you shut up?

I don't want to keep reading.

I've literally showed it to my fucking stream.

You can hear yourself.

That's what I'm doing.

Okay.

Why are you getting mad?

Look, look, I'm getting mad because we're going in circles.

I have read this out multiple times.

It is here for everyone to read.

I don't want to fucking hear you.

You're like a fucking guy who's illiterate, who just learned how to read yesterday, who's like training themselves to be literate reading out loud.

You don't know how to interpret what's being said here.

They're not claiming the Jews own 85% of the shares.

They're saying.

that brokers guilds that had Jews facilitated eighty five percent of the that eighty five percent of the trade relied upon a small number of Jews within these brokers guilds to broker the trades.

That's what it meant.

They were brokers, okay?

So what stop gibbering and respond to that.

I am.

Okay.

So it says when it came to mediating in bargains involved in shares.

He's just like, we know what it says.

So we know what it says.

There's no dispute about what it says, it's about how you're interpreting it.

Fuck.

Go wise.

Okay.

It says when it came to mediating my bargains, we're done, we're done.

I'm getting rid of this fucking guy.

I can't fucking do this all night.

It's 3 a.m.

It's 3.

This guy's like treating this abstract paragraph as the Bible, and he doesn't even know what it fucking means, okay?

Um crazy.

Okay, look at his own source.

It's so interesting.

Portuguese Jews did not play a significant part of Amsterdam's rise as a trading center, which started in the second half of the sixteenth century.

They were barely involved in setting up the Dutch East India Company.

Among the subscribers to the initial capital, uh only two names are Jews from Portugal.

Uh

It was not surprising.

Okay, so let's see where it talks about.

During the sixteen sixties, the city was a very good idea.

Mm.

Uh

Yo, an artist, what's up?

I'm just looking for numbers, guys.

Okay, four years after the Amsterdam's war, under six percent of the account holders of the Bank of Amsterdam were Jews.

By 1646, this was 8% and by 1651 it became um ten point five percent.

Here, you need to see this yourself.

Um and in sixteen seventy four more than thirteen percent of the Bank of Amsterdam's account holders were Jews.

Um

Okay, so thirteen percent was the peak that they're listing here.

Yeah, they dominated the brokerage thing.

Wait, no, no, no, the originally they weren't.

The leading Amsterdam Merchants.

And then they became and then Jews became, I guess,

Involved in brokerage.

Mm-hmm.

Two groups of traders.

Hold on.

They it was their advantage they admit a small number of Jews.

Okay, they were ideal mediate between Jewish and Christian businessmen.

Uh we're familiar with the Jewish traders.

Game.

So that is the end of the chapter on the Jewish Traitors.

'Kay.

Well

So much for the Jews controlling the fucking Bank of Amsterdam.

At peak it was thirteen percent.

Ah.

So, among shareholders in the VOC specifically, I want to show this to you.

It's true that.

The peak was thirty four percent by seventeen hundred, were owned by sixty Sephardic investors.

And that was where, you know, the the the company got the reputation.

that most of the shares were owned by Jews.

when they weren't.

But it they got the stereotype that it was 'cause the thirty-four percent was really big.

But that was the peak in the VOC by seventeen seventeen hundred.

Just want to keep keep it honest, you know?

Um let me see.

Okay, so of the um the fifty licensed brokers, fifty were Jewish.

Interesting.

All right.

So did Sephardic Jews play a

Notable part in the Amsterdam Stock Exchange from Portugal.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But.

Again, i i it was only as an ancillary detail.

It wasn't the main force.

It was as a minority.

Which, by the way, I never denied.

I always said a significant minority of the ruling class uh you can say has Jewish descent.

And I only say significant minority, you know, relative to the population of Jews, but what's the conclusion we're going to draw from here?

You know, th we don't draw the conclusion that Jews are the problem.

Because they're only a minority of the actual ruling class, it's simple.

Uh okay, anyway.

What a crazy fucking day.

Alright, guys.

This is not over.

See you guys.

See you when I see you, either tomorrow or the day after.

Bye bye.

See ya.