Heated political debate

Going on, Thomas with the five.

I appreciate it, brother.

Jay Wally, what's going on, bro?

Hey, what's up, Eddie?

I appreciate you, brother.

So, guys, we are going to be doing our weekly confront the chairman space and um

That is going to be happening.

And uh I don't know what else to tell you.

Um we are gonna be talking about uh whatever we have lined up.

There's again, we have a we have a channel in the discord.

That basically has room for people to

You know, um, how do I explain this?

So if somebody has a question

On Twitter, or they want to confront me with something and they want me to respond to it.

You screenshot it or you link it and you put it in spaces content on the channel.

Now, a lot of you guys don't know what you're fucking doing and acting retarded because you're just fucking linking shit you want me to react to.

This is not a React channel.

Don't just link me random fucking tweets that have nothing to do with a direct confrontation of the chairman.

Okay, like I'm gonna name in shame Battle Cossack.

You're linking me a tweet of Laconian talking, saying that I'm, you know, because I said that the homeless are sidewalk lords or something.

Very serious, obviously.

What am I going to react to, dude?

There's nothing to react.

What's confront, there's nothing confronting me, okay?

He's just making a fucking statement about me.

What do you want?

Okay, there's another guy shattering.

Okay, sorry, I'm not gonna criticize them because they're doing really good work on their Twitter.

But you guys need to fucking use this the right way.

Okay, it's ridiculous.

You're fucking linking screenshots of shit you want me to react to.

You're not linking shit of people who have a message for me.

Okay.

And you're linking the most random sh you're like re linking tweets with two likes too.

What the fuck is wrong with you guys?

I don't know.

Off to a really bad start tonight, okay?

Like a lot of retardation all around.

I'm sorry.

A lot of incompetence.

I've never seen the community this retarded.

Off to a really bad start guys, I'm just letting you know.

So we're gonna do the space, but yikes, you know.

You're like you're just shitting up the spaces content channel with a bunch of random retarded bullshit with one or two likes that's not even confronting me.

It's just like some random shit that you would like me to react to, okay?

This isn't Reddit, I'm not reacting to fucking Reddit threads.

Yikes, I'm not in a good mood, as you can tell.

Alright, I'm not very patient tonight.

And um

Yes.

I will be facing the camera today.

Do am I always fucking like cleaning or some shit?

But we're like

Kind of fucking problem.

Alrighty, let's start the space, okay?

Our God is an awesome God He reigns from heaven above

Dastor, thank you.

Alright, well this is not working.

I am in a really bad fucking mood.

Nothing is working.

This is just terrible.

'Cause BlueStacks is a piece of shit.

Banana, thank you for the five, but you know, Banana, you really messed up.

Blazer, appreciate you with the five, all right?

Banana, you made some Discord.

I told you guys no splinters.

And I said, you know, I don't know what's going on in these fucking.

Um, pointless discords, and then I there's this other one that's not even from the community, but there are one or two people from IGG in there.

I had to fucking ban them because they're not even IGG regulars.

It's just like, guys, stop accepting invites to random ass fucking servers and stop creating your own retarded ass servers that are fucking pointless.

All right, Midwestern, what's up?

Because I'm really getting sick of having to take responsibility for these like stupid ass servers.

Like, look, Banana, I know you're not a Zionist, you don't have to explain that to me.

I, we, we know you're not a Zionist, all right?

We know that you're not, we know that, okay.

It's just that you need to understand we're at war, and anything you do is gonna be taken out of context in the most bad faith possible way, and there just needs to be an awareness of that.

That's all we're saying, okay now.

Okay.

Confront the chairman.

Alright.

We're starting the space right now, okay.

So the space has started and we're gonna go ahead and just check the spaces content to try to find anything that could possibly be related to the actual confront the chairman thing, okay?

Um let's just see.

Alright, let's just see.

So

Let's see what we have.

So we're gonna name and shame.

We have a guy whose username, they're not even in the server any.

What is their name?

A dot dot dot.

Linked a tweet by Comrade Ryu that just links the Prol Wiki article for infrared.

Oh wow, what a confrontation.

It's not even, you're linking some random ass retarded shit not related to the Spaces content.

I don't know why.

Are you a bot?

Are you a fucking NPC?

I'm about to crash out.

I'm about to crash out.

Why are you linking this in the Spaces content channel?

What is the purpose?

What am I going to do in the confront, the weekly confront the chairman space?

What am I going to do about a fucking retarded autistic article by Prol Wiki?

What do you want me to say?

Where's the confrontation?

Okay.

What is the angle here?

Are you just on autopilot?

Are you just on autopilot?

Are you just like whatever?

You're just whatever comes to your mind.

You're just kind of shitting everywhere.

What's going on?

We don't know.

Ness, you're linking.

something about the debate between abolition and off he bung

That is in a thread where I'm not even mentioned one time.

Okay.

What is the what's the idea here?

Just tell me what the strategy is.

Like, what's what's the idea?

What's the idea?

What's the expectation?

Okay.

What's the expect?

We're just doing random stuff.

I mean, you may as well just put fucking Studio Gilby AI memes in this fucking channel.

Alright, you're just putting anything.

You're just putting anything in there.

Okay?

What I've always wanted to hear is ACP's critique of Giovanni Gentile's critique of historical materialism.

Here's our critique of it.

It's fucking retarded.

And it's for retards and freaks who belong in jail or in labor reform camps.

And that is our critique of Giovanni Gentile, okay?

Because it's all just voluntarist gibber, idealistic, voluntaristic, anarchoid gibber, okay?

It's basically the passion of the will.

But what about choices?

But what about choices?

Yeah, just fucking read Hegel himself, okay?

Where you will understand very, very, very clearly, okay, that there is an infinite range of possibility when it comes to choices.

The decisiveness of an act

Is that it's responsive to a new development of history, okay?

And that is what gives it novelty.

The act in and of itself has no creative power whatsoever, okay?

And uh, it's that simple.

This, I, the Gentilo was basically trying to say that the Hegelian Geist and the Hegelian will, you know, that that was somehow directly an individual guy's will.

It's just retarded, he's unable to comprehend how Hegel moves or he's operating at a level beyond the methodological individualism.

Karl Marcus Ning, and the whole reason Giovanni Gentili gets about this is because Britain conquered Italy and humiliated Italy.

So he adopted Anglo-Saxon methodological individualism, applied it to Hegel in the most retarded way.

And in this way, he tries to translate Hegel's Geist and Hegel's spirit directly to some anarchist running around outside naked and doing bungee jumping or some shit.

And that's I'm simplifying it, but this is really all it is.

You can read as many books as you want.

You're going to realize he's just talking about a guy running outside naked, bungee jumping.

And he's saying that's what endangers history itself.

Okay.

So if you're a retard, you might find that profound.

I don't.

Okay.

Anyway, let's continue.

Uh, Battle Cossack, what's going on?

We don't know.

Uh, Frederick, you you think this is a Q and A?

It's not a Q and A.

All right.

It's not a Q and A.

All right.

So we're off to a bad start.

Um

Someone is accusing Jackson of Russian astroturfing and bot farming.

And then you have other retards trying to accuse Jackson of being CIA.

And they apparently they're saying this because the totally real signal leak

Which the Yemeni authorities themselves deny is real.

But I guess Western leftists are smarter than the Houthis.

Even if it was real, it wouldn't matter.

Because the CIA in this Signal League said that they're mobilizing assets.

So what do these pigeon-brain, bird-brain, worthless NPC retard bots who don't fucking understand a thing about the world but are soy facing?

They're gazing at the sun, soy facing with nothing going on in their head.

They sound literally retarded, mentally handicapped.

They are basically.

Reading this tweet.

I mean, the CIA asset, that's a white guy in a suit, and it's like James Bond.

Oh, look at Jackson.

He looks like James Bond.

That's what it is.

It's the guy in the suit of James Bond.

And they don't understand that CIA assets in foreign countries is in Yemen.

They're just going to find a brown guy and give him $5, and there's your CIA asset.

In what world is a CIA asset in Yemen going to be a fucking white guy in a suit who looks like Jackson?

You've watched too many fucking movies, so you think you're suddenly a fucking expert in espionage and how the CIA works, and you're a fucking drug-addicted retard high-off pot and smoking too much fucking marijuana.

There's nothing at all going on in your head.

So you see this tweet of that signal chat next to a photo of Jackson and you think you've hit the jackpot because you're a fundamentally stupid fuck.

Who thinks that's how it works because you've watched too many movies and you don't realize that when the CIA talks about having CIA assets, they're not talking about a literal American, you know, fucking Tom Cruise or Jason Bourne.

They're not talking about that.

They're talking about a fucking brown guy they gave $5 or they're blackmailing or they're threatening or whatever.

That's CIA assets, okay?

That's what a CIA asset in Yemen is.

The CIA asset in Yemen is not a guy with a sign going, Hi, I'm fucking James Bond.

I have a suit.

I look highly like I'm a fucking secret agent.

I'm the guy.

No, it's a guy who blends in, who is from the place, who knows people, who has connections, who has access because of that.

That's what a CIA agent is.

If you don't get this, shut the fuck up talking about feds and CIA agents and Fed jacketing people.

You're a fundamentally stupid person.

Put the pot down and shut the fuck up and read a book for once in your fucking life before confidently accusing people, risking their fucking life on a regular basis for the cause of international communism, literally.

Accusing them of being feds.

Shut the fuck up and read a book.

You have to you have to yell at these people.

You have to yell at these people like they're stupid brain-dead donkeys in a fucking barn.

Because there's no other and even then they're not going to understand it.

You could quietly try to explain it to them, but mid-sentence, they're addicted to pot.

So they're going to forget the first word of your sentence.

And they're just going to forget.

So like that whole tirade I went on, in the middle of it, they already zoned out and they don't understand.

The logical chain of reasoning, they're not able to follow through the line of argumentation here.

And that's why these people belong in prison and they need to be locked up.

And they basically need their head banged against the concrete every single day until they learn how to fucking put together a single train of thought consistently.

Prove they're capable of doing that.

Otherwise, we need to start treating these people like wild animals, these potheads who are motorists, they're driving around, endangering everyone.

They're walking around.

I mean, God knows, you know, they're gonna.

They're gonna fall one day because they don't even know how to walk.

Okay, that's how stupid they are.

All right.

And if you fell for this and you feel bad because I'm calling you out, you're gonna get angry at me.

You're gonna make me the asshole.

You're gonna make me the villain.

No, the real villain is yourself.

Go look in the fucking mirror.

You're a retard.

You're an idiot.

Do something about it.

Read a fucking book.

Humble yourself.

The Haas is there, I hate Haans, I'm gonna be a hater full time because Just fucking have some self awareness, all right?

Understand how stupid you are.

Or like people who call ACP feds, because supposedly our domain name was owned by a guy named Ben Gerber, even though they originally said it was Burton.

Ben Gerber worked for a federally funded corporation that was involved in the development of the early internet.

Okay.

And.

Apparently that makes them directly a CIA agent because they were a fucking computer programmer that worked for the government.

Because the CIA has ties to that, even though they have ties to every single federally funded anything, including the post office.

By the way, your mailman is apparently a directly a CIA agent, right?

Anyway, look.

They're saying that because this guy sat on a bunch of random ass fucking domain names like poptarts.xyz and wipe my ass dot you know dot dot

dot fr, you know, France, I guess the French they just said on bunch of random ass domains that they were sitting and parking on, probably related to their fucking early job in uh web development or whatever, where they just seized all these domains.

And we bought it from them.

For thousands, several thousands of dollars, they originally wanted 20,000.

Okay, and it was done through this fucking website.

So, at no point did we even talk to this guy?

Apparently, that means our website is a CIA website.

Okay, uh, that's they just see a bunch of screenshots, these retards who don't know anything about how anything works, and like it's a CIA!

It's a CIA!

First of all, even if Ben Gerber was directly James Bond himself, even if he was directly himself.

Even if he was literally directly himself, you know, the fucking black pope of Rome, where these guys say that there's a shadow pope who controls the, even if he was literally that, okay?

A domain name, it's like a phone number.

Like, let's say, let's say you buy a phone number from me.

Now that's your phone number, right?

Okay.

Does that mean when someone calls that number, they're calling me?

No, it's your number now.

Okay.

Let's, okay, let's say.

Let's say Satan himself came up with a fucking phone number.

It's literally just a string of numbers, okay?

And then you someone bought that number from him, okay?

Whenever someone calls that number, are they calling Satan now?

That makes no fucking sense, okay?

That's what a domain name is.

It has nothing to do with the website, it has nothing to do with what's on the website, it has nothing to do with the design of the website, with the technology bu buying the website, with the programming of the website, it has nothing to do with even with the server.

It's a fucking address, just like a phone number.

So whoever creates that address is irrelevant, 'cause all it is is a string of letters, like real estate.

That's all it fucking is.

It does nothing else, okay?

And we paid thousands for it.

Even if Ben Gerber was directly the head of the CIA.

And this is all just damage control, because these retards, and it's the same two guys every time.

First, they said it was Burton Gerber, because they had to find one guy named B.

Gerber who is in the CIA.

Then we find out it's this wacky web developer named Ben Gerber, who's this literal autistic old man who has a website with Bugs Bunny on it from the 90s.

And they're like, Well, he worked for MIT R E So he worked for some MIT uh computer whatever uh MIT R E, it's some fucking web development shit related to the development of computers and the internet, okay?

And that directly makes him a CIA agent.

How?

It doesn't even make sense.

Okay.

But even if he was, it wouldn't matter.

But they had to clean up their original fuck up saying it was Burton Gerber.

Oh, actually, it wasn't Burton, but Ben, trust me, coincidentally, Ben is also a CIA agent.

Shut the fuck up and take the L.

Okay.

I'm just shocked that there are so many retards who eat this shit up and buy into it.

I'm so shocked by it.

And my tone of voice is loud and I'm very loud, but am I wrong?

Is anything I'm saying wrong?

Is anything I'm saying illogical or irrational?

Like, how does a fucking domain name mean anything?

How does that even mean anything?

Okay.

And they're arguing that 23 years ago, ACP.us was created by the CIA because they were planning 23 years in the future to create the American Communist Party.

uh in order to make being a fat phobic trendy among socialists and hijack the very profoundly popular movement of Libtard, you know, um

Uh, you know, Libtard, uh

Transgender hojaism, okay?

So apparently, that was 23 years in the making to completely shit up the good name of autistic furry socialism, okay?

Shut the fuck up, you fucking retard.

Just shut the fuck up, sit down, and go home, you fucking idiot.

Literally, I'm so sick of hearing dumb bullshit every day by retards who don't know a fucking thing about how anything works.

You know, people these people never got yelled at their whole life by their teachers.

They were, oh, you're so smart, because they thought they were developmentally disabled or something.

I don't know.

They thought that they needed, oh, yeah, you're not, you didn't f they, you know, they these people, when they were when they were young, they were given tests, like basic things like, you know, um, what is 14 plus seven, you know, on their math, and they would write, potatoes, and they'd see, oh, yeah, that's very creative, you're right.

It's potatoes.

And then they, because all they got was positive affirmations, they grew up and now they're confidently spewing bullshit and spreading bullshit and having no self-awareness of how fucking stupid it sounds when you actually think about it and deign to actually put effort into considering whether this is actually rational or logical or even adds up in any kind of way whatsoever, right?

And um so that's where we're at.

And then it all goes back to one thing: that Jackson met Tulsi Gabbard.

The thing they say about Halali, okay, they photoshopped a LinkedIn like of some random ass shit they pulled out of their ass, the Syat Brigade's Christmas party.

Oh, Halali liked this.

They fucking photoshopped it.

That's all they have.

A Photoshop and the fact that Jackson met and went surfing with Tulsi Gabbard through his ex, who is the same ex, by the way, that went on to date Jonah Hill.

It's like maybe the ex is the person who's really well connected, and maybe Jackson connected with them and, you know, met Tulsi's in-laws through her.

Maybe that's the thing you should be paying attention to, all right?

I don't know.

Right?

Um but yeah.

So just Jackson, Tulsi Gabbard.

By the way, the leaked message of Jackson talking about, you know, how he he the connection with Tulsi isn't dead.

That was before.

Before.

2025.

That was

After the election, but before January 20th, and it was before December in 2020.

So it was November, October, I don't remember.

Something like that.

Okay.

So that's a nothing.

That's a nothing.

That's a nothing.

There's these people have nothing, okay?

They have nothing and you're retarded if you buy into anything they say.

I want a single person to get up here and try to.

We're going to have this mentally deranged MK Ultra mentally shattered freak Rambly come up.

Go ahead.

What do you have to say?

Uh okay.

I'm gonna bring up uh Kayla to co-host again if she is alright with it.

Because all these people have me blocked.

Go ahead, Rambly, the disturbed.

Go ahead, share with us your.

Your deeply disturbed, twisted, shattered mind.

Show us what the depraved victims of MKUltra look like in 2025.

Go ahead, speak.

I do want to know one thing, Haz.

I want to ask you this question.

Get it out.

Get it off your chest.

Go ahead.

How many holes do women have below the belt?

See, that's just.

It's classic.

Answer the question.

It's classic because you're a poor nadled, MK altogether freak who just cannot get sexually related things off your mind because you are poorly socialized and you are just totally beyond the paradigm.

You are just completely.

You are completely beyond any kind of...

Answer the question.

Answer the question.

Answer the question.

Please.

How many holes?

Uh, would you say that you're a pervert or no?

Like, would you define yourself?

Would you define how many holes?

How many holes is that something you would ask your parents if you were in a room with your parents?

Would you like to feel like that?

How many holes, dude?

Answer the question.

I want you to have a little bit of self-awareness here, right?

We're on a space where there's literally nothing being discussed of any sexual anything, right?

And a furry, disgusting freak, okay, comes on.

And starts demanding that I engage in this really disgusting topic with him with him.

This really, really like visceral thing with him.

And I want everyone to take note of how much these people.

have been completely MK Ultra beyond the pale, where they go into a political space and they can't even fucking think of a normal thing to say.

All they can think about is the most like vulgar, visceral possible thing.

Right?

To talk about.

Like

And they they they're looking for any opportunity to like talk about anything sexual whatsoever, right?

And Rambly, I'll answer your questions.

You just have to explain to us why you have to make everything why do you why are you so uh interested in talking about private matters and all this kind of stuff in public?

Like, where does that come from?

Go ahead.

Go ahead, Rambly.

Go ahead.

Tell us about how this has pressing significance for for politics.

And l left wing politics in particular, 'cause I think you would probably call yourself a leftist of some kind.

So explain the relevance for l for leftist politics.

That that you're, um

You're so interested and obsessed with being a disgusting freak and a degenerate, which is what you are, Rambly, by the way, a degenerate.

Go ahead and speak.

He can't he's at a loss for words.

This guy's at a loss for words, you know?

He probably identifies as an animal.

He probably identifies as like some kind of dog or some shit.

The raccoon.

They probably identify as a raccoon.

You know, I don't even know if they consider themselves human, but they're a disgusting degenerate.

No, no, has, has, has, has.

A lot of people on the left are very anatomically confused.

I think they would need you to clear that up.

So, can you please explain how many holes do women have below the belt?

Halo, you are yourself a woman.

Do you find his like topics of discussion bringing up a little creepy or weird?

What do you think?

Torre reminds me of when we're in like middle school.

Like, oh, this is dude.

Answer the question.

Don't deflect.

Don't fucking deflect.

Get something else better.

Don't fucking deflect.

How many holes?

How many holes?

Answer the question, Haz.

A lot of us are confused.

Sick fuck, and I'd recommend for us to move on.

No, I'm not.

I'm none of those.

Are you a grown man?

Well, um

Haz.

Just answer the question.

Are you a grown man?

Answer the question because a lot of us are confused.

A lot of us are confused.

A lot of us are anatomically confused.

Haz.

Answer the question.

Are you a grown man?

Maybe.

I don't know.

I'm 18, if that's what you're after.

Rambly.

Here's the thing.

This is why we're going to remove him.

Because if you can't even, if you don't even know whether you're a grown man or not.

I don't know what we could possibly talk about.

Okay.

I don't know what topic we could.

I don't know what you could possibly confront me with if you're confused about something like that.

Okay.

And you were given the opportunity to act like a normal human being, like a normal person, but you are just a depraved freak who is just getting high off of the dopamine effect of being a public exhibitionist or the equivalent of it.

You are the type, if you could get away with it, you just like run around naked and shock and expose people like in public because you're like a fucking pervert.

You're a digital pervert.

That's what you are.

You're a freak and a degenerate.

And you need to be, your internet access needs to be shut off.

You need to be quarantined from society.

You need to be put on psychiatric drugs.

We need to figure it out.

But until that happens, you know, a manic, disgusting, perverted freak like yourself needs to be kept away from society.

And it's that simple.

So you confronted me with something.

That's my response.

The confrontation in question was, what should be done about freaks like myself?

And the answer is, you need to be quarantined from society, blocked from having any ability to interact with other human beings until you are on enough psychiatric drugs where you can know the difference between what is appropriate to talk about in a public political setting and what is inappropriate.

Let's bring on silly goose.

Go ahead.

You're on, said the goose.

Oh hey, hello.

Um I would rather not share my name.

You can just refer to me as silly, I guess.

Uh just wanted to ask a direct question to Haas, how do you guys feel in your organization about Manifest Destiny?

What is the official position?

Because I've I've seen Jackson and a couple of other of your comrades uphold it, and I'm not really sure what is the official position because it happened nearly two centuries ago.

So what do you what is the significance?

What is the significance?

Um

I guess I see Manifest Destiny as an imperialist justification of the expansion of the American Empire, and it's troubling to see some of your comrades sort of uphold it.

Hold on.

That's your view.

Okay, then what?

So what what then?

What then?

What do you mean?

What what then?

What difference does that even make to to have that reflection?

Like, what's the practical significance?

Because we have a dialectical view, which means we reject metaphysics.

We reject just taking positions on history just because what's moral or immoral.

No, no, no.

There there has to be a practical significance here and now, right?

That's decisive.

If this is something you regard as so severe that, you know, it it concerns you that people have opposing opinions that you do.

So what is like what is practically at stake, like here and now?

Is my question.

Well, j just just to recap, I have not said that this is sort of like a breaking point for me.

I actually do find myself close to you guys ideologically.

I'm not from America.

I have no allegiance to America.

I have really no So I'll I'll I'll I'll just tell you my view, alright?

So Engels basically talks about how

Speculation in land was the number one driving force of the social dynamics in America for a long period of time.

Manifest Destiny was really the epitome of that.

You know, it's the it's a it's based in this kind of

um buying up and speculating in land that was stolen, absolutely.

It was taken through all sorts of wicked, nefarious and, you know, anti-human genocidal means, you name it.

Absolutely.

It was fucking brutality.

It was barbaric.

And um this is one of the contradictions at the founding of the United States, which is the fact that it you know, there there is um

There is something connected between the loftiest aspirations of building a one united republic and the dream of an America, and then economically this manifested, on the other hand, in the form of this kind of cynical, vulgar land speculation, hype.

So just like Bitcoin today is a speculative asset that's driving a lot of hype and it's purely based on hype.

That is also a huge driving and motivating factor in the development of American civil society and economic history.

I just would say that I wouldn't take a one-sided view because yes, this is the reality of capitalism and capitalist brutality.

But simultaneously,

The um

The specific notion of a community grounded upon a horizon of the future, right?

That in some sense is already decided, rather than the bonds and the wages of the past, so to speak, also has a profoundly emancipatory significance, which was at the heart of the abolitionist movement.

It was at the heart of the progressive aspects of the American Revolution in 1776.

It was at the heart of the American labor movement.

It was at the heart of the progressive and left-wing and communist struggle of America in the 20th century.

So, and also the civil rights movement.

MLK, he had the I Have a Dream speech.

Well, that was also a kind of drew from the same spiritual.

uh substance that manifests destiny also in part in part I'm saying drew from.

Okay.

I understand there's there's a clear dimension of the brutality of capitalism here.

But I'm just saying you have to have a dialectical view.

You can't just say that that's all it is.

So that would be my my reflection on it.

Yeah, I appreciate that answer.

I would just say that I do find an argument to be made that it is a worthy endeavor to not only reclaim American symbols and reach out to the s so called MAGA base, but I do find it concerning to see some jingoistic elements make its way to the rhetoric of the people in your organization.

I wouldn't even accuse the organization itself of holding is th these views.

I know the the the organization is sort of

A lot of people, and you cannot point out two behaviors to specific people and adjudicate that to the whole.

I'm just saying it's sort of concerning to see these sort of kernels of jingoism and rehabilitation of the empire in the rhetoric.

That's all I would say.

But much respect, brother.

Yeah, thank you.

Appreciate the question and the nuance.

And, you know, I apologize if I come off as hostile.

I'm just, you know, no worries.

I didn't want to be hostile either.

Yeah, I appreciate the respectfulness and so on.

And yeah, I mean, look, the concerns are justified.

But, you know, on the other hand, it's important to take note of what the leadership of this movement says and not overemphasize what some people on the fringes or the margins.

You will find anything if you're looking for it.

You know, you can find.

I have seen, you know, I have seen neo-Nazis directly, you know.

Uh combine neo-Nazism with like I don't know.

with Starbucks unionism, you know.

I've seen it any possible combination of any kind of view, you're gonna find it.

You just have to ask the question: what is a dominant tendency and what is a marginal tendency?

And a movement should not be crucified on the cross of its marginal tendencies, if you can even call them that.

You know, everything is a matter of tendencies.

You know, there's no purity for any movement.

You know, you're gonna find.

I mean, people went to such lengths for years, they just found like these really fringe accounts that none of us even knew.

Like, this is what infrared stands for.

And it'd be like somebody with like a Mussolini picture with like the infrared globe in the background.

It'd be like, that's what they are.

This is the average infrared person.

And it's like, no, this is not even close to being a minority tendency in our movement.

This is straight up just some extremely fringe troll shit.

But we're crucified on the cross just because they stole our globe symbol, you know?

So.

This is the internet, it's decentralized, it's open source, you can't, it's not a top-down thing where everything's being controlled.

But no, I mean, I would very strongly oppose anyone who is downplaying the gravity and seriousness of the brutality of capitalism across history in general, you know, including at the history of the USA.

You know, it's total brutality and barbarism.

And Marx talks about this in Capital.

He says it's the rosy dawn of capitalist accumulation, of primitive accumulation.

All manner of the most basic and the lowest of instincts are at play.

You know, curiously, Engels says the same thing about the rise of private property itself.

You know, he very strongly emphasizes the basest vices of man.

just being unleashed in this this radically new way.

Um

But it's it should be a discourse within Marxism because to be clear, Marx and Engels regarded these developments as historically progressive.

And I know Leserdro has some pushback on that.

And even I have some pushback on it, by the way.

I'm just don't I don't want people to try to cancel us because there's some people in our movement who just are saying what Marx and Engels and Lenin and everyone else in our history has said.

I actually do think there should be a thoughtful re-examination of the idea even that Greek slavery was progress over Asiatic civilization.

Even I take issue with that kind of framework of classical Marxism.

But let's be clear about what Marx and Engels actually believed, because that's what they believed.

They believed that was historically progressive.

May I may I just close off with one question rego sure re relat closing Okay, so basically I found this one tweet a long time ago and I just wanted to bring it back.

This is way before the formation of the ACP and I know Jackson tends to be provocative and I I d I don't hold it against him.

I think he's a pretty positive figure in the struggle.

But he on twenty ninth of January of twenty three he tweeted, Manifest Destiny is not complete until the US liberates Canada.

I know you guys want to incorporate Canada into the United States.

Do you see this truly as a continuation of Manifest Destiny?

Or is it just sort of some sort of provocation that should be disregarded?

Well it's more it's

It's not just a provocation, but it is definitely closer to that than a definite institutionally verified position.

It's more like a type of rhetoric, if anything.

And it's a rhetoric directed against, you know, the vestiges of the British Commonwealth in North America, which is Canada, you know.

And.

Do we directly want to invade k no, I mean no, we've made our position as a party very clear, but

At the same time we're very

We regard Canada as ha having always been a reactionary presence in uh North America.

And you know, you'll you'll it's important to take note that we never have the same rhetoric about Mexico.

We never say the USA should invade Mexico or conquer Mexico.

Even rhetorically, we never s use that rhetoric, you know, because Mexico has a revolutionary tradition.

an authentic and legitimate revolutionary historical tradition.

Canada doesn't, you know.

Canada has always been a bulwark of uh British imperial intrigue and uh it has always been a reactionary influence even on the USA.

I'm talking about in the nineteenth century and the early twentieth century, you know.

So.

All right.

Thank you.

Thank you.

I appreciate the the genuine and good faith discourse.

Thank you.

No problem.

Have a good night.

You too.

Have a good night.

So, Kayla, is there anyone else besides uh this degenerate freak, Rambly?

And okay, there's a guy named

Layman.

Go ahead, Layman.

I think he fell out.

So there's Applejack and Rambly.

Guess we're gonna have to bring the court jester Rambly back, the punching bag Rambly.

Go ahead, Rambly, get it off your chest.

What do we have to talk about?

Very productive.

You know you want to answer the question, dude.

How many holes do women have below the belt?

We are very confused.

I think a lot of Marxists are very confused about this topic.

Please shed some light on it as you are the chairman of the American Communist Party.

You know, Kayla, I feel like you can smell this guy.

This person has not showered in like five days.

You know, I'm from New York City, and what I always say is, like, you know, when we see the crackheads on the street, we know not to respond to them.

We treat them with comments.

We're like, all right, we take pity upon them.

Unfortunately, on this website, they're treated with a muddicum of respect like they're normal people, and they're not.

They're not.

They're people that need to be taken care of.

They need to be institutionalized.

Why is this the only op?

The guy with two followers who's like mentally ill.

It's the only op who ever has the correct space.

Come on, how many holes?

How many holes?

He's the only op that ever comes.

How many holes?

And he's here every week.

Is this not insane coming onto us like a every week consistently?

There's nothing okay.

Look, I just rambly, if you could shut up for two seconds.

All I'm saying is this: I always see like tweets going viral, being like, oh, the ACP website is CIA, or oh my god, Chris Salali, he liked this LinkedIn post and it's Photoshop.

And oh my God, Jackson is this and that.

Oh my God, and there's always like these serious accusations.

There's always like serious accusations.

How many?

What the fuck?

It's always like these serious things being said.

Okay, uh, that's a great poles question.

I feel like this is like the Riddler was autistic in the new Batman movie, but it's straight up like Buffalo Bill, like Riddler vibes where, like, this dude straight up just like cannot.

Like they they just have no there's nothing going on.

But there is like a very aggressive willingness.

To persistently demand others that they like we just play by their rules here.

Like Buffalo Bill.

It's like this guy's like basically this guy, you know, I'm I'm trapped.

He's talking about holes.

I'm trapped in the hole in the the movie, you know, and he's Buffalo Bill.

And he's sending down the bucket and he's like, it puts the lotion on I'm like dude, what's going on?

Like what what do you want?

It puts the lotion on the it puts the lotion bro, what is this?

Like what is your question?

It puts the lotion on the skin.

Like he can't get anything else out of his mind.

Rambley, what do you have to say about that?

Go ahead.

Just answer the question, dude.

Yeah.

Wow, it's really you're he's really like that.

He's really like that.

He's really like that, it's like it puts the lotion on the skin.

What is going on?

I can't believe this.

Like, what happened on Twitch four years ago?

All these stuff I did, it's like, I didn't know this stuff was like 9-11 for Autistic Furries.

We sh there should be vigils for it and stuff.

I I can't believe this.

Go ahead.

Just answer the question, dude.

How many holes?

I think the quality's not being very consistent with the.

I mean, I'm on shitty Wi-Fi, but hey, just answer the question and I'll leave you the fuck alone.

Yo, let's go!

Uh, Rambly, I mean, I can't believe it.

I can't.

Hold on, can you turn it down for one second?

Yeah, just turn it down.

All right, answer the questions, and I'll Rambly, I don't know how you found that thing of me singing.

That was like not public, dude.

Like, that was like me, like, singing, like, you know, by myself.

I thought I was going to be, before I wanted to be a streamer, I wanted to be like signed by a record label.

And like, so, like, when I was by myself, I was singing that.

And I would, I was, I'd be so embarrassed if, like, someone found it, you know?

It's like, I don't know how you found that, but you totally like are making a really profound statement here, you know?

I can't belie I can't believe it.

It's like my community is shocked by this.

It is the first time that they're learning about the fact that I've not always been extremely serious when I was streaming 10 hours a day, you know, on Twitch on a website called Twitch, which is like a gaming website.

But, um,

I don't know.

I just wanted to let you know that you've really cornered us here.

Go ahead, Rambly.

Dude, just answer the question.

Also, show evidence that Sophie's a fed.

Okay, now we're okay, now we have something.

So all things will be revealed in due time.

This person.

You made the claims, you show the evidence.

Well, I could just be like Iran and say Operation True Promise 3 is coming whenever we want it to come.

And why are we why why am I working on your schedule?

Who the fuck are you?

You know?

Who am I?

Yeah, like why should I work on your time?

Well, I mean, you made the claims, you should provide the evidence when you make the claims.

Yeah, if we'd like to provide evidence, you know, that they're affected by the

Could you provide evidence for how many holes women have below the belt?

No, get the laugh out, please.

I don't want you to contain it.

You gotta let it all out.

We don't want you to like be secret about the comedy of it.

No, no, what I we need your opinion on the great holes question.

Everyone's confused.

Yeah.

All you have to do is like answer one question for me.

Okay, what's your question?

Have you ever been diagnosed with autism in your life?

Oh.

Oh.

Hey genius.

Yeah, I am Autistic, so what of it?

Ah I knew that, Rambly.

I already knew that.

Yeah.

'Cause you're a fucking ableist piece of shit.

The fact that I knew it was you're just gonna objectify autistic.

I'm just saying I knew it.

I already knew it.

Dude, you were shouting slurs, but the least you could do is answer the holes question.

How many holes?

No, I mean, I want to go back to the autism thing.

How did the doctor know that you were autistic, that diagnosed you?

How did they know?

What gave it away?

Oh, because I'm neurodivergent as shit.

And autism literally is just a different functioning of the brain.

It's not abnormality.

It couldn't be something that shunned.

What were some of the signs of the neurodivergence that the s psychiatrist or the doctor picked up?

I mean give us like examples.

Well, I function a lot differently than others.

Like how?

Like give examples.

Uh

I mean the way I think of things, I make connections like no one else does.

Well, give me like specific examples that your doctor was able to pick up.

I mean hyperfixations and all that.

You know, I I love Pokemon, I love uh

What else?

So, because you loved Pokemon, your doctor diagnosed you as autistic?

I don't believe that.

Yeah, no, no, no, no.

Right, there were more specific things.

But I was not told until I was 15.

But, like, how did the doctor know?

I wait.

I don't know, 'cause I I view the world a lot differently.

I'm I'm just I'm just built different, okay?

No, we I mean Rambly, Rambly, I think everyone in the space knows that.

You know, I knew that.

But you need to tell me what the you're special.

You're definitely special.

But how did the doctor know?

Well

What?

Oh, I like how I'd know that because I was told by my parents at fifteen.

How did your parents know?

Like, what do you think gave it away?

My behaviors and shit.

But don't you think it's weird how, like, I was able to pick that up?

Without being your parents and like even knowing you just just from how you interfere.

Dude, I'm fucking proud of being autistic, all right?

Right, but like don't do you do you can you like infer how I was able to know that you're autistic based on your repeated pattern of behavior here?

Has

He has, you know who I am.

You fucking blocked me on my main account.

I block hundreds of people all the time, but can you can you um just have some aware like I all I want this whole goal here is I want you to have a little bit of self-awareness about what no it's not the self-awareness piece, it's more the social piece that I struggle with.

I want you to be aware of that.

Did you have any self-awareness when you do you think it's a coincidence that I was able to get back on topic?

How many holes?

Rambly.

How many fucking points?

You're not really helping your case here, you know?

I really.

Dude, just answer the question.

Stop.

Would you consider this to be autistic behavior that you're exhibiting?

Would you consider the fact that you're not answering the question to be virgin behavior, what you're exhibiting?

Rambly mail.

And Sonic is a real alpha, right?

Real though.

Sonic the Hedgehog, is that a real alpha?

Yeah, he's the goat.

Um doesn't he like collect rings?

Is that why you're so obsessed with this?

No.

I here no, here has.

No, I've always been more of a Zelda Pokemon guy myself, but let's let's get back to the great holes question.

How many holes?

Um

Do you have no like shame about it that like

It's this easy to detect that you're autistic, even from someone who's not a doctor?

Why would I f have any shame about it?

There there's nothing to be ashamed of.

I'm just different.

In fact, I'm actually proud of it.

So, what are you trying to prove here?

Like, why don't you just privately be proud?

You're clearly trying to make some kind of social statement here with some kind of social significance.

Yeah, right.

Here's Rambly.

Just answer the question, dude.

But you're not able to understand, Rambly, that you've come to this space with the intention of some kind of.

Some kind of goal that you think will have some social significance, you know, to embarrass me or make me look stupid or something or make fun of me.

But you don't comp you can't comprehend how the whole thing you're trying to do, the whole reason why you're here in the first place, is completely negated by the fact that you stick out like a Thor sum as an autistic person in front of every single neurotypical person that's here, which is the majority of the population.

So you've come here to make fun of me, but you're just shitting and pissing your pants in front of literally everyone here.

And I'm literally sincerely and compassionately trying to give you the bare minimum of some self-awareness about that fact.

With no malice.

I'm just lit as best as I'm trying to break the barrier.

The neurodivergent barrier barrier so that you can understand that you're just embarrassing yourself right now.

Go ahead.

30 to

If you're so proud of how different you are, then stop trying to posture in front of a bunch of neurotypicals who just see you as like a

Extremely autistic, bizarre person.

Go ahead.

Go ahead.

We're waiting.

Nothing?

Alright, well

I I hate to have given you uh advice that your father should have, but I think you have very bad parents.

Really.

They're really bad parents.

Uh okay, let's bring on this nationalist guy.

Go ahead.

Nika, you're on.

Hey, Haas, can you hear me?

Yeah, I can hear you.

Alright, great.

So, um, I'm gonna keep it short, right?

So

I have just have a c few questions in regards to your position on El Salvador and their foreign policy towards not just its neighbors, but in general at all.

You know, I

Bukele is not an easy person to understand the full spectrum of his motivations.

He's he's not a socialist, he's not a principled anti-imperialist, clearly.

Uh he does come from an interesting background and um

He's pretty inconsistent, I think, when it comes to a lot of his foreign policy orientations.

Was not a big fan of how he volunteered El Salvador to intervene in Haiti.

But to the extent of my knowledge, this could have changed more recently.

I think he does maintain.

Decent relations with some of the progressive uh governments in Central America, like Nicaragua.

So

You know, I um

I think it's complex, but I don't really trust Bukele, but um, I think.

Clearly, he was an enemy of at least one faction or the main faction of the hegemony.

very clear.

Oh yeah, also his position on Venezuela and Maduro, of course, uh I oppose.

But um yes, I I don't know enough, to be honest, about uh to form a more general and overall appraisal of his significance.

That's fair.

I don't want to expect you to be an expert on Central American politics.

I believe that some of your colleagues are better experts at it.

For example, Midwestern Marxists, they're a lot better, well-versed on Central American politics.

And regards to El Salvador and their domestic politics, you could phrase that Bukele is a leftist, and I say that as a

And in a derogatory way.

And I said I mean that as he's anti-business, anti-small ball anti-small business.

He's kicked out vendors from food vendors to pretty much any vendors you can think of to make way for big businesses such as Nike, Starbucks.

The Barista Discourse has finally arrived to Central America.

So that's a that's I guess that's a plus, right?

But in regards to Nicaragua, he has maintained a neutral position ever since his Navy gotten in confrontation with our Navy, which was back in twenty two.

However,

He has said a lot of negative

or imperialist talking points.

Uh he's met with Marco Rubio.

He's pretty much uh licked his boots when he came down there.

Marco Rubio was embarrassed by it.

I think the pictures show it very very well.

I believe that ACP needs to

take a stronger position on forming stronger uh a stronger connection to the Santinistas in Nicaragua versus Nueva Ideas and and El Salvador.

In the long run, it'll benefit each other.

Yeah, that's that's um that's like uh a given, you know.

Of course we will be closer with uh Nicaragua than El Salvador.

As a matter of fact, we already have ties with some forces within Nicaragua.

And the ties will only improve from here.

And we have some interesting things planned actually with respect to that.

I think ni Nicaragua I think we have closer ties with than even Cuba.

Even to some extent, to be honest, even more than uh Venezuela, I think.

And that's a great thing because we do have an upcoming election, I think, in twenty seven.

And you know, I'd be more than happy to lend a couple of words here and there into our mister Interior our Ministry Interior, I'm sorry, that uh

Some of these leftist records that I see online that are slandering people like Chris, the high bailiff, and slandering Jackson Hinkle, who did arrive to Venezuela and gave a personal interview to Maduro.

My worry is that they would come down here and they would be interrogated thoroughly.

Like we are speaking ours, solely based on just slanderous lies.

That's completely fine.

They wouldn't be offended.

Interrogation is normal.

If they feel it's necessary, that's completely fine.

Uh Jackson and Chris have nothing to hide, you know.

Jackson is vetted by the F S B, he's vetted by Chinese security, he's vetted by world class intelligence agencies that are opposed to US imperialism.

They do not regard him as an agent.

Um but if that would happen if they went to Nicaragua, that's completely fine, you know.

Um it's with their right.

And by the way, we have great relations with uh the PSU V in Venezuela, but

The reason our relations with Nicaragua right now are a little better in terms of the connections we have is just because uh the PSL has really tried to gatekeep us internationally and spread slander and bullshit about us in Venezuela.

They do it in Cuba as well.

It hasn't worked in either case, but it did um

It does set a higher barrier for

our ability to basically prove that we are worth more than they are.

We never wanted to have a competitive or antagonistic position with them.

But internationally they try to block us from anything they can really, you know.

Um but Nicaragua's a different case, you know.

Oh, absolutely.

Nicrow was a different beast.

We have our own protocols.

We bet every single person who comes in, we have a very unique approach to it.

YouTube bloggers who we know are antagonists towards us, we even allow them to come in and film.

You know, they have their clickbait headlines.

Oh, we're under a dictatorship.

And all they show is just, you know, small businesses, vendors selling, you know, whatever.

And then they go home.

We don't check any of their cameras.

We don't check any footages.

But the thing with Bukele, I think that it's a it's a little bit worrisome.

I think that ACP should maybe go into a different direction.

But this is completely currently, as a party, have a position on Bukele or El Salvador.

But

Our sympathies and our support is going to be with Nicaragua but versus Bukala always, you know.

Yeah, I'm sorry to cut you off there, Holly, but like there was an incident maybe a couple of days ago where some of the 200 migrants that were sent to El Salvador, one was a Nicaraguan National.

And once he was there, he was telling the officials at CCOP, that's the mega prison.

He was like, hey, I'm not Venezuelan, I'm Nicaraguan, da-da-da-da.

And I'm telling you, in a couple, not even a couple hours, about an hour and a half, they sent him back home to the United States because Bukayla says he didn't want any trouble with Nicaragua.

He says that we were only taking in what we agreed on.

When we say we, it's El Salvador and the United States, which is just Venezuela's migrants.

And so I think that it'd be more of a formidable friendship and alliance between not just the Siamese, but like maybe the Siamese youth to get in contact.

We agree.

Absolutely.

We agree fully.

We've achieved food sovereignty.

We've achieved, you know, it's that old saying, right?

We understand and comprehend the significance of Nicaragua.

Um it's a s it's a country with some sovereignty, you know.

It's not um

It's not like an E El Salvador where it's mixed.

It's definitely far more reliable and far more, as you said, formidable.

It would be a smarter strategic elite alliance.

Yeah, we fully agree and see eye to eye with you on there.

I know I'm a nationalist.

I'm for Nicaragua, like 100%.

But I'm telling you right now, whatever you have with El Salvador, it'll crumble.

We don't.

It's starting to crumble.

It's starting to crumble.

We as a party have nothing with El Salvador, you know?

And just for the record, I'm not against mining in El Salvador, which is what the opposition for Bukel is.

I'm not against mining.

I think every country should have its own right to mine.

However, we know that they have, they just signed an IMF deal for like $1.4 billion.

So we know that if they were to mine, they would give complete mining rights to Canada or the United States or any of these Western exploiters, right?

And so I think it would be a good idea for the ACP to make a little bit of stronger alliance just with the Saninistas and not just the Sanita, but like the youth and learning how to.

And I'm from the Appalachia side of the United States, right?

So I was born in Nicaragua, but I was raised in the United States.

That's why I don't have an accent.

So I know that some parts of Appalachia, man, they struggle.

They struggle with growing crops because of Walmart comes in and they take over.

You have Costco.

Well, no, I'm not going to go with Costco, but Walmart and Target and all these big businesses, they walk in and they basically make the small businesses obsolete.

And so the Santinistas are completely against that.

They want to make what we call the campesino, which is like the farmer, self-reliable.

They make food for themselves and also bring some to the market.

So we're not dogmatic in that next sort of scenario.

Well,

Appreciate the words.

Um

It's always good to hear from people from a fraternal country, fraternal party, we think, as well.

So uh we look forward to building more relations definitely with the uh Sandinistas and um Sandinista youth as well.

Appreciate the time hosen and I appreciate ACP.

And I always, you know, I always look through the bullshit.

I don't really care about what anybody else says.

I always look at what the what you guys are trying to accomplish in a sense, right?

Because you guys do remind.

My dad tells me all the time: hey, when we were starting up, hey, it was nothing, and then we created something.

So with the ACP, you know, there is different similarities and PSL, excuse me, with PSL and CPSU say and all those.

I never saw anything close to what the ACP has accomplished.

So hats off to you guys.

You guys have my full support.

And just anything that happens, if Jackson or Chris wants to come down or any delegate from the ACP, I could just put in a word and there will be no trouble.

That's what I'm saying.

Okay, I appreciate it so much, man.

And we have.

We have plans for Nicaragua already, but we'll keep in touch.

See you later, bro.

Luchenko, go ahead.

Yes.

So my question to the ACP.

Is what about Hinkle's endorsement of Donald Trump and the tweets that he deleted them later?

What do you mean endorsement?

Because he didn't endorse him during the election.

Before the election.

Um well

Before the election, when it came to the MAGA communist phenomenon, um

Jackson and myself included, by the way, were definitely well, Jackson's mentality is basically that if there are positive aspects of Trump and if Trump does good, the there should be uh emphasis on that tendency for the sake of emphasizing that for the MAGA movement.

And when he does something bad, uh that should also be uh criticized.

Mm.

In a given tweet that Jackson makes about Trump, you're not finding a holistic, general and final and complete total appraisal of Trump and his significance.

Such a manner of thinking, by the way, is not even really dialectical.

Because it's always a matter of different tendencies.

Now, the thing is, you could say that as well about Biden.

Why did Trump, why does Jackson not apply that same standard to Biden and others, and so on and so on?

Because from the MAGA communist analysis or strategy, the idea is that there's a civil war within the American state where MAGA is not yet.

Maybe we should say that, especially before the election, definitely not the hegemony.

There's a hegemony.

MAGA seems to be an ambiguous counter hegemonic phenomenon.

So it's very important to try to get in there and try to define the content of the counter hegemonic space

And one of the ways to do that is to basically reward this was before he was elected president again reward the positive tendencies, or at least the tendencies that more align and seem to be more conducive with a consistent and principled anti hegemony position.

Is Trump principled and consistent himself?

No.

But that is not

The sum total of the significance he had for American politics at that time, not just his own character and his own personality.

So, if that makes sense, that's basically out of the way.

What about his manifest destiny?

Talking about you at the United States liberating Canada.

What was that?

What in particular about that do you take offense to?

Is it the part about manifest destiny, or is it a sound silly?

Sure, but do you think that Canada is like a progressive country, or is it about manifest destiny?

Progressive country, like what does that have to do to well?

Like, for example, I think a principled, you know, Marxist-Leninist would say, Who cares about Canada and the Canadian government?

It's it's illegitimate and we don't care what happens to it, right?

Is that do you agree with that or do you think that, you know, that Canada is like a legitimate

has a legitimate hist you know historical legitimate revolutionary tradition at the founding of its state some communist parties in canada could say the same about the united states and the ecp if they do then they are taking a position that's contrary to the marxist leninist tradition because the marxist leninist tradition regards the foundation of the united states to be historically legitimate the it has a legitimate hi historically legitimate revolutionary tradition from the marxist perspective i understand there are some recent thinkers who have tried to challenge that or push back on that that's fine no one's being dogmatic i'm just saying that is an unorthodox position relative to the classical marxist-leninist position on the matter

Yeah, I see your views on that.

Hmm.

It just a lot of it doesn't make sense though.

Okay.

Um well elaborate, please.

It's like what makes you guys and the United States like what makes the US de facto so much better than Canada as far as like you guys are multi-polaritists, right?

Um, it's not really a matter of better or worse.

Uh I think that's very it's kind of simplistic because the US is responsible for a huge degree of crimes and trouble in the world.

I mean, there's you don't have to tell us twice about that.

But I would say that with respect to a nation or a polarity or something, the United States is a country with about 330 million.

Canada only has 30 million people.

And Canada does not have a tradition, a revolutionary tradition at the founding of its state.

It has no tradition of the formation of any kind of independent nation.

Which, by the way, the Marxist view actually, if you really pry into it consistently, is that nations are formed through revolutionary historical events.

That's really what founds a nation.

Nations are not formed from DNA, they're not formed from blood, they're not formed from ideas, they're formed from revolutionary events within a given people, within a given mode of specific extent of a given historically constituted community, right?

And Canada never had that, it has a tradition of a failed revolution.

Which the US government was reactionary and teamed up with the British to squash.

So there are Canadian uh comrades we have that point that out and we of course agree with them.

But Canada as it stands does not have real popular sovereignty even formally, in a bourgeois democratic sense.

Because the British king at any time can dissolve Parliament, which did happen in Australia, for example.

So from the Marxist perspective, Canada has not even yet really had its bourgeois revolution.

Now we're not Mensheviks who believe we need the stages and we need to first have that before the proletarian one.

But I think that weighs the argument better in favor of the idea that the United States is a better base

in terms of providing the foundation of an already existing revolutionary tradition for the construction of a proletarian politics that is applicable to this nation.

And by the way, Marx and Engels had the same view.

They believed that it was only a matter of time before Canada was annexed by the USA.

uh at which they regard it as a positive and progressive development.

Again, I'm not I'm not saying this is a dogmatic thing that there's no possibility of debate over.

I'm just saying it's definitely not an heterodox position within Marxism Leninism to view the USA as a more

legitimate or authentic state or nation, national tradition than uh Canadian state.

Rke has another question.

And a very good one.

is an anatomatically anat uh let's see here so

Do you know how a woman as a woman's anatomy works?

Uh, I was just pausing 'cause I wanted to give you time to like get the laughs out.

I don't want you to have to hold it in, you know.

I want you to be able to Yeah, please.

I wanna I'm I'm continuing to pause 'cause I I think it's really funny and I want you to like

Um

I don't wanna have to interrupt that woman has three openings.

And like the whole squad is laughing right now.

If I may, I do have proof that this person is in an anti-ACP group chat, and I believe that they are in the same room as Rambly.

And yes, they're doing exactly that.

They're laughing like little teenage boys.

They probably are, to be quite honest.

Rambly's 18.

Teenage boys, ha ha ha about something that happened three years ago.

It's boring.

Be adults, please.

Which, no, by the way, I'm not saying like it's not funny.

I'm just saying it's kind of old.

Like it was funny.

But I don't understand.

Like, maybe I'm autistic.

Like, is is there some is this like serious to you or something or what?

Or is it just like it's just like a funny meme?

Like because our community is not foreign to this meme.

As you know, this was also funny for us too, but we're in 2025.

We have some serious things to talk about now.

Like, I'm kind of at a loss for like what this, what is this about now?

Like, what you're clearly not.

Are you from the infrared community?

Because, I mean, like, this is one of our like classic memes for us.

A lot of trolling you do.

I feel like you're coming at it from like a hostile position.

So like you're like upset about it or this is somehow like supposed to be like an attack or something.

Like I don't know.

Maybe I'm autistic, just like Rambly is.

Can you like spell it out more explicitly for me so I can like better understand like what the what the significance is here?

Like like exploit basically like explain the joke like I'm an autistic person.

I love these tweets you make is that a lot of trolling on your part?

Alexander, what's up?

Like get rid of GameCube or be smashed.

Go bust into home smashing gaming PCs and Nintendo consoles.

Like, I'm trying to understand those tweets.

Yeah, like, you you basically like you don't get it, right?

I think, look, I'm not an ableistic person, so I just want to assure you: like, I'm not going to smash your GameCube, okay?

I don't want you to worry, or lose sleep, or be upset, or I don't want you to be tossing and turning in cold sweats at night.

Your GameCube is safe.

I'm not going to go to your house and smash your GameCube with a hammer.

You don't have to worry, you know?

And I think that's a sigh of relief for you.

I think you just sighed.

I think I heard it.

Ron, what's up, brother?

Yeah, because a lot of your tweets are hilarious.

Like what about the eating at McDonald's in America is the people's banquet.

What about that one?

Yeah, like, um, you have nothing to worry about, you know, you don't have to eat at the banquet.

It's totally fine.

Don't worry, you're not under attack.

Shadow the Hedgehog is not coming for you, I promise.

Yeah.

Such a class.

Um, who do you what what's an example of a serious person if I'm a clown?

Like, who who do you regard as like a serious leftist, like, intellectual who's like not a clown?

Anyone that's not No just name name name like one person.

So like Carl Marks?

Okay, a person who's alive and is relevant in 2025.

That like I should be more like them.

Like I should be I should be less humorous and I should be like more like these really serious people who are so serious.

You should like name them just so I know like who I should learn from.

Is there a single person who's not a clown who's a leftist influencer in 2025?

Please go ahead.

Hold on a second.

Mm.

Uh, fifteen seconds, you know, it shouldn't really take this long.

Should really just be something you can name off the top of your head.

Nothing?

Yeah, that's what I thought.

Really nothing.

'Cause the truth is, is that, um, all the people you take seriously are actually fucking clowns.

And the difference is, is that

They don't even know that they're joking.

You know, orange, please, go ahead.

Go ahead, Orange.

Oh, sorry, it took me a little bit to connect.

Uh so I wanted to ask about um what the party's position is on the Sahelian states, especially 'cause I saw a while ago wi the Sahel, right?

Sahelian.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

The Niger, Burkina Faso and Mali.

Yep.

Uh especially 'cause I mean I was hopeful too in the beginning, but also I saw recently that they were meeting with uh AFRICOM and they were taking out IMF loans.

Yeah, that's interesting.

Um

There is some w we don't we in principle, we don't advocate for meddling in the internal affairs of other countries, but we just know that these countries have rev risen in revolt against French imperialism in Africa, which is a more directly reactionary phenomenon.

The decision between you know IMF loans and so on.

At least now they have the choice to decide between cooperation with China or the US financial hegemony for whatever reason.

Before then they didn't have that choice because they didn't even have any degree of sovereignty whatsoever, right?

So French colonialism is an extremely reactionary phenomena which is retarding the development of Africa um beyond even the United States, you know?

Yeah.

Um that that's basically off the top of my head what I would say.

So it should be regarded as like the Suez Canal crisis.

Well, uh not necessarily, but that similar dynamics are at play there, as you know.

Like, you know, the the US was not necessarily fully on board with the British and the French in that conflict.

Yeah.

Uh and then I want to also ask about what the party uh what you think of the conflict in the East Congo.

You know, um, I hate to say this and I'm ashamed to say it, but I'm just not very informed about it.

And that brings me, uh, I don't really have excuses not to be informed about it, but that's really I know that there are many there is many geopolitical forces at play with Russia, the United States and France, and so on.

But I just you know, I think um I think in South Africa, Malemma.

Took a very strong position against um

One of the armies that were backed by uh Kagame.

Yep.

Yeah, M23.

M23.

Yeah, yeah.

Because there were some South African troops up there, but he wanted to bring them back and then he condemned Kagame.

But again, in effect, it just means he doesn't want South Africa involved, you know.

Right, right.

Yeah.

But I, you know, I don't know what's really, I don't know what's like really going on.

I know, of course, there's minerals and there's resources at play back.

Like, really, I don't know the internal politics of the Congo at all.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Don't know at all.

Yeah.

And then finally, I've I've become sort of known as like the Sudan guy.

So I want to ask since yesterday they just the army just took over the capital what the party what you to think of the conflict there.

You're uh it's like I'm just hearing this for the first time.

This happened yesterday.

Yeah, yesterday.

Huge.

And the army in this case is backed by who?

Um, they they're supported by Egypt, but the UAE.

Iran, no, not the UAE.

UAE supports the militia, which just lost the capital.

Ah, yeah, yeah, um, okay, yeah, yeah, because we the Nile goes through us, so Egypt doesn't really mess with the Nile, you know.

You are you're in Sudan Sudan.

No, I'm not in Sudan, I'm from Sudan.

Okay, okay.

I'm in the US, I'm in the US.

Yeah.

Uh so Saudi Arabia and the UAE were supporting the militia before.

Uh Saudi Arabia, I not sure.

They were there for the negotiations and the army just praised them.

They made a statement saying they're like a brotherly nation.

But the UAE has been supporting them and it's like known that they've been supporting them.

Are these the descendants of the Janjaweed militias or?

Yes, yes.

Yeah.

One to one.

It's the same leaders, same fighters, everything.

Wow.

Yeah, this is another thing I don't know enough about to comment.

Yeah, yeah, I should learn more.

Yeah, yeah, no, it's fine.

There's not a lot of uh English, you know.

You usually take me long to learn, it usually takes me a few days.

I just have to fully commit to it, you know, and that's what I'm really lacking right now: the time need to sit down and fully investigate and learn what's going on.

Uh I can send you some stuff if you want.

You know what?

I here's something I'm interested.

Does Turkey have any involvement?

Uh

Yes.

I mean

They've sold I mean

They hosted talks a little bit ago between the Army and the UAE directly.

They cut out the militia.

Or they they w they said they were going to.

And they sold drones to both the UAE and the army.

They were playing both sides.

Interesting.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So I don't know.

It's kind of like one of those conflicts where it's not really like like there is like an imperialist side here, but it's not as like one.

So a lot of the time it's very confusing because there's not necessarily a clearly progressive force.

I think here it's a it's been made clear that this might that the army is that force but also the it's it's it has it's not clear we're just looking at alliances.

Yeah.

It has its own contradictions and yeah, yeah, and its own regional sort of contradictions.

Yeah.

You know.

Yeah.

But yeah, that's all I wanted to ask about.

Okay.

Yeah.

Thank you.

Appreciate it.

Thanks for bringing my attention.

Yeah.

All right.

See ya.

See ya.

Uh, so Applejack, I don't mean to ignore you, it's just uh we're trying to bring on people that are new.

I think last time we had a pretty articulate discussion, and I mean, the the people that I'm bringing on that are not new is like Rambly, it's just like a troll, you know, this is just for entertainment value.

But they see there's three requests, I think Kayla had to go.

I need someone to co-host 'cause I cannot see there's four requests, I can only see one.

I'm gonna have to find someone to co-host.

Um

Ed, would you be down to co host Ed Gentry?

Just thumbs up, Douglas, would you be down?

I'll invite Douglas.

Sewell?

Okay, there's six requests.

Wow.

Alright.

I can only see one.

We're gonna have like two more and then we're gonna wrap it up.

What up, Douglas?

Uh so can you see the

Five people.

Uh bring on like someone who seems like like a leftist op, something like that.

That's what we're looking for.

I had uh originally requested because I had a question of mine and the co-host just happened completely by accident.

It just happened to be at the same time.

But uh I um long time ACP guy, long time infrared guy.

I'm just sort of curious.

Um there's been some speculation that uh Russia had either supported or was apathetic to the fall of Assad.

Uh I'm just curious on your personal thoughts.

Do you think uh Russia might have just gotten sick of Assad in in this case?

No.

No.

From what I know um

From what I know, from what really happened, was that there was.

Not a strong degree of morale and willingness.

I'm part of a lot of the segments of the army and uh people close to the leadership.

Um

From what I know.

You know, a lot of the pro Iranian militia is also scattered to the wind mysteriously.

Syria was in a dire, pretty bad situation.

This is just from what I know, you know, from what I was told.

I don't really, uh, strongly suspect that Russia sold out Assad though.

Uh Douglas, is there anyone Yeah.

Yeah, we got um Andre Manigault.

Um looks like he has posted

Um a little bit about like some unions and um

posted about Burkino Faso.

We could bring him up.

Okay.

Is there anyone else, like leftist?

Uh, nobody who's like straight up lefted codist, you know, pronouns and bio type shit.

Well they don't necessarily need that, but it's just all right, what up, uh

I'll tell you what's going on.

Not much.

I've actually spoken with you before.

I've been in one of your spaces.

Oh, okay.

Hey, I don't mean to be rude, but let's keep it quick if you've been here before, because we're going to wrap it up soon, and we want to also bring on some more adversarial people that weren't that have not been on this before.

I mean, to be honest with you, the one time that I did come on, we did kind of get into it about Marxism, but I'm not here to be adversarial.

But if you have a different agenda for your space, I respect.

I know you guys run a tight ship and you get a lot of stuff respect to organizing and all the stuff you're doing.

So just wanted to shout you out, man.

Good stuff.

I appreciate it, man.

Thank you so much.

I really appreciate it.

And yeah, I think I do remember we had a kind of a back and forth, but I think it was.

We resolved it, I feel like you're a Marxist, you're a socialist.

It's fine.

Yeah, you're from MRM.

I'm more about co-op, worker co-ops, and I'm more open to, you know, some of the reformist stuff as far as theory goes.

Not to say that I'm also down with the revolution and what Lenin and Mao and these people are all about as well.

So I'm open-minded.

And yeah, that's pretty much it.

I just got back.

I'm a social worker.

I just got back from work.

But I would love to hear you guys talk about, you know, some of the stuff that I'm doing in terms of housing and with some of the are you based in the U.S.

Yeah, I'm in New York City.

And so I work.

Hey, hey, listen, if you straight up want to collab with us, please reach out to.

Do you know Spiros?

No, I don't.

I know you.

That's it.

Okay.

Spiros, what's his handle, you guys in the chat?

What's his handle on X?

Spiros is his handle.

I don't have it off the top of my head.

If you Dm the guy named Spiros.

He's the head of the New York chapter of the ACP, so he organizes all the people in New York in our chapter.

And if you have anything in mind for some collaboration, I think you'd be more than happy to have a lot of people.

Yeah, the housing and affordable housing, all that stuff.

That's my area.

But as well as, like I said, clinical treatment when it comes to mental health, substance abuse, right?

Homelessness, those are the big three.

So his ad on X, it's going to be AM underscore partisan.

Okay.

That's spewing.

Yeah, 'cause I'm I'm kind of on a funky app.

Okay.

Um.

All right, what is yeah, I can DM it to you if you want to.

Yeah, DM it to him, please.

I'll DM it to you.

Yeah, all right, cool, because I just got in.

All right, thank you.

Thank you, man.

Listen.

Alright, so we

We got um two people I think uh bring Dan Dan up here.

Yeah, Dan is like um maybe Magalite guy.

Alright, but that'll be our last guy then.

We're gonna bring one other person on.

Hey, what up Dan, what's going on?

Hello, hello, can you hear me?

Yep.

All right.

I got a question for you guys.

First of all, hello.

How do you account for the massive market inefficiencies that result from command economies?

I think these inefficiencies are mainly centered around light consumer goods.

Are they?

Yes.

Yes.

Well, have you heard of the dumping that's happening in China right now?

I mean, as a result of the post-Mao regime, right, all the economic decisions have led to them doing entirely investment-based economic matters over consumer-based.

And this has led to massive market inefficiencies, and now they're having to give away their product for free to all these pre-industrialized countries, right?

That seems to me like a pretty big gap in inefficiency.

And the Soviet Union had the same thing.

I mean, if you read the papers, they had to try to simulate consumer-based economies.

So to me, it just seems like a very unviable route command economies.

Well, I think China having tremendous surpluses and the ability to export those surpluses and well, yep, the the surpluses come to conducive to the growth of overall global wealth and the development of societies globally.

I think it's a positive force.

And it's a positive force.

Absolutely.

Well, it's coming from market inefficiency.

In fact, it's actually deindustrializing the African countries and third world countries they're sending them to.

It's having what someone would say is an inverse effect because these are like pre-globalization countries by all means.

You can call that a consequence of market inefficiency, or you can call it a consequence of an age-old problem of industrialized societies selling cheap goods to poor and underdeveloped countries, which also decimates the local industries and so on and so on.

I just happen to think that under a framework of Chinese-led global economic growth, that the Chinese are cognizant of these realities, they're aware of them, and there is a better chance that they can be offset through cooperation with African countries and through deliberate, yes, command economy-style planning to account for these things.

There's a way to actually be consciously aware of this and respond to it.

Whereas before China, the same phenomena was going on, but there was no sense of responsibility for it.

It was just regarded as a consequence of the global market, which by itself has never, never industrialized countries by itself.

I mean, industrialization was always everywhere in the world, was a consequence of deliberate, you know, heavy-handed state intervention that came at the expense of global free markets.

You see, Hans, the reason why I'm not too sure about this is when Nen Xiaoping instituted these policies, the inefficiencies that they led to have detrimental effects on the Chinese economy to the point where it makes me think, well, why not just have a consumer-based economy?

It just seems so much more inefficient.

It seems like you're going through all this hassle, go through all this hassle to try to simulate the consumer-based economy like they did in the Soviet Union.

What is a consumer-based economy?

What are examples of that?

Consumer-based economy is capitalism.

Consumer-based economy is an example of a country that has that.

The United States.

The United States is $35 trillion in debt.

So I don't think China is a good idea.

Wait, wait, wait, wait.

I don't think deficit has.

Hold on.

Deficit arises.

The U.S.

is rapidly deindustrializing.

It's facing runaway inflation.

It is absolutely.

Yes, so I agree that the United States is deindustrializing, but that's a different problem.

That's actually globalization.

China also suffers globalization, but it has ways to deliberately account for and offset the negative effects, and that doesn't exist here because I don't think they have.

I think the market inefficiencies are caused entirely from their commands.

I would look at the home ownership rates.

I would like to say that the deficit and the problems in the American economy, those are two different problems that you brought up there.

So globalization is the primary cause of both of those.

In fact, with the deficit, we have more imports than we have exports, and that causes a deficit.

Right.

And that's a consequence of the fact that we do not have an economy that is as planned as China's.

No, no, it's because we outsourced all our labor to China.

Which we did, which we did because we don't have the ability, we don't have a public monopoly on credit.

So we actually have to rely upon the global market in order to invest and fund and make money and create things.

So, you know, it's not like we could just, for example, cheapen the costs of production here through heavy-handed investment in the productive forces, which comes at the expense of short-term profits.

The interests of short-term profit have to subsume everything, right?

So that's well, no, the reason why we did it was just because the labor was cheaper.

That's what I said.

We opted to Chinese labor.

You just said that.

Yes.

According to the logic, it's cheaper.

The reason it's cheaper is not a very savory reason.

These are very poor conditions and what has happened.

Right, China is poorer, and in poorer countries, the cost of labor is less.

We know that.

There's nothing new here.

This is to say that the reason why outsourcing to China isn't a matter of like Chinese economic superiority is because their marketing is not a good thing.

Sorry, I'm going to apologize.

Maybe I woke up on the wrong side of the bed.

I just have very limited patience tonight, so I muted you.

And I just wanted to say that's not what I said.

What I said was that it was a consequence of the fact that in the United States, economic decisions that have a major impact on the overall welfare of the country are motivated by the short-term profits of the private sector.

And according to the logic of getting as much short-term profit as you can, yes, outsourcing for cheap labor was the rational decision, okay?

But on an overall macroeconomic level, that had disastrous effects for the U.S.

economy.

So in China, decisions are not made in the interest of short-term profits.

They're made in the interest of the overall long-term development of the entire Chinese nation.

So that's what I was trying to say.

It had nothing to do with the idea that.

China's command economy is the reason that American corporations prefer cheap labor.

That's not what I was saying.

Okay, that's it.

Yeah, no, I think that that is a fair point.

I do agree.

I don't like corporate outsourcing.

I don't like the profit-seeking mentality.

And I'm not defending the fact that corporations would trade for cheap labor in a heartbeat.

And I do agree that China does have an overall more collective focus that can lend to their benefit.

Those are things that I would not deny.

I just don't think it proves any advantage to the command economy.

It still has massive inefficiencies, and I still don't think it's better off for their citizens.

I think the biggest successes of Den Xiaoping's opening of the Chinese market were capitalist ones.

I think the thing that made the Chinese people prosper after the Maoist disaster was the fact that Den Xiaoping was willing to introduce some degree of capitalism.

Well, we're going to have to do it.

Yeah, no, we're going to have to wrap it up by just me saying we're going to have to agree to disagree on this point.

Maybe at a later time we can pursue it further.

But all I'd really say is that I think it's a one-sided view.

I think you can't take one thing and discard the other.

You can't just say Mao was bad and Deng was good because Mao laid the foundations for what Deng did in a lot of ways.

No, I think they were both bad.

But yeah, Deng Xiaoping would not have been able to do what he did were it not for the industrial and infrastructural foundations.

And modernization, the base primary level of modernization came from the Mao era.

I like to say that it's important to take a dialectical view.

And you understand everything's an interconnected whole.

There's not just one thing versus the other.

You're talking about.

qualities that are indispensable for

Each other's existence, you know?

Anyway, we're just gonna have to agree to disagree because I think.

It's about that time to wrap up the space.

All right, good talk.

Yeah.

See you later, man.

Alright, so guys, I'm just starving at this point and um

Very tired.

Um

Later Haz, I I hit up um uh what's his name?

Spiros, yes.

Spiros.

All right, have a good night.

See you later, bro.

Good night.

So uh yeah, um

This we're gonna have to do something about the confront the chairman spaces, guys, because

You know, the the the the I had an idea where the ops, you know, they can just type it out and then you take a screenshot and then I respond, but you guys are not you don't understand what I'm talking about.

You go on the Spacious Content channel, it's a bunch of nonsense, right?

So what you're going to need to do is instead of just telling people, Hey, get in the space and debate Haas, if these people say no or they're not willing, say okay, then uh

What do you have to confront us with?

And they can link something, they can say something, and we will directly, I will directly address it.

That's what the goal was, all right?

Um you know, that's a good idea.

Next week have Jackson.

We'll see, there's a time zone difference, so but we'll see.

That's a good idea.

Uh okay.

Yeah, it would be great to have Jackson on.

Uh okay guys, I'm uh gonna eat.

Hold on.

Let's see if we have

Anything else?

Alright guys, um it's a shame that no one wants to confront me with the crazy things they say about our party.

But I think a lot of people are just afraid to actually say it out loud in front of someone who

Has the ability to subject it to the bare minimum of scrutiny because they know deep in their heart of hearts that what they're saying just doesn't reflect reality.

They're just not very confident in it.

Strell Stanney, what's up, man?

Appreciate you.

All right, guys, we're going to wrap it up.

I'll see you guys Sunday.

I'll see you guys.

Bye-bye.

And by the way, I'm going to be deleting this space from my timeline, so you could just watch it on kick.

Bye-bye.

Let's delete this from the timeline so it doesn't fuck with my algorithm.

But

I gotta shit.

Gotta do laundry and shit.

And then eat.

Bye, guys.

Bye guys.

So let me totally end the stream.

Alright.

Stream ended.

Yeah, finally.

Finally.

Alright.

I thought that would never end.

Hello, Tulsi.

Yeah.

No, they're they're definitely look.

All right, I'm trying as hard as I can.

I'm trying, it's just that it's really hard

To tarnish the good reputation of the Autistic Furries.

They're really appealing.

Everyone loves them.

They're really normal.

It's really hard for us to blacken their name in the way we are, Tulsi.

So you're going to have to send us more money.

And I need more weapons for Haiti, Tulsi.

That's really it.

You know.

Hold on.

You got a three-way call?

All right.

So, Ben Gerber.

Hey, man, what's up?

I just wanted to, you know.

The the plan is working.

The website.

You know, it's definitely still acp.us, just like you planned for it to be 23 years ago.

Um

And, you know, nobody you know, they're kind of on to us, but

You know, it's just, um

What can we say?

What can we say?

You know?

Oh my god, the stream is still running.

Oh no, what is going on?