INFRARED SHOWDOWN [2021-12-10]
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the maga movie i liked there are a lot of things i think trump did that he represented at tension and a
a discontent within normal american regular american people that i liked but i don't think he really fulfilled
the end goal of that
so to be clear you are a small sea conservative
burkey in
but
i see so a nerd conservative
exactly
next stop we get
okay
next up we have
the conservative version of destiny american
natural
what's up man
yeah i american not so i play video games what am i doing i'm doing intro right now
yes center right
republican unapologetically republican
i don't necessarily consider myself a conservative
but yeah republican right leaning
and what is your message
or the left wingers
in the left wingers
uh wake up i guess i don't know
i realize biden's not doing
anything that he promised he guess
interesting
next we have the famous
or i should say infamous
chormal
that's right
thank you for having me back has i really appreciate this my name's charm hoold
on twitch on cash app
send your five bucks my way and his way use your primes
i'm a gamer i'm an accelerationist i like to go fast
and i fucking hate conservatives because all they fucking do is talk about the same shit
over and over and over and over and over again
so char you say you hate
conservatives
yeah hey
so that means you could never be friends with any of the conservatives here
well hate is really close to love as well it means a very tight connection so
you could say that i also love conservatives
and where do you lie on the political spectrum
i' like to think myself as a
international anarchic
leftist
as much as i could green left us
you know it's changing every week i see
heh i gota go fast
and what is your message to the conservatives here
a fuck american nacho on ban me from your channel
bitch
and c t v for the love of god going to happen by the way not saying any word and i'll and be your voice is so annoying c t v like try to talk like the you know you're like that like go i want you to bring it down
bring he down wlls track you a manly voice i want to hear some
and believable
please
next up we have and what the fuck is this
get on a faolking chair immediately
what the har i think this is
don't do
bed time
this is how you show up to work this is a professional job and i fucking pay tok sleep in bed
is this the representation you're giving to liberal america
i'm not a liberal has this is the classic leninist marxist
a communist not a marxist lunist either laying down on the job
pickets no one gets it right no one gets it right oh god
on frig anunbelievable
i know i'm just a terrible guy not have a chair to sit in
i got this couch i was playing rhms of pokemon
mhm
for a couple hours then and then i went and pitched it sansol for a bit
so you were
okay well you better sit up word we're not going to have any resident sleepers here
i may be a sleeper hose but i'm packing the heat all day
all day ok dylan tell us what your actual political orientation is
a besidesing liberal because we already got that one
mhm well as much as i you might think i'm a sleepy liberal like biden
i will say however i am dylan i'm a teetoist and
ah yeah that's pretty much where i lie on the political spectrum you can find me
little bit upwards into the off left corner on the pole comp we want to visual representation far left
economically
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and sorry did you take a titoist
yes
does this mean you drink kitas vodka all day or what
i wish
okay
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at a whapping
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with
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he's deafine broke he can't hear you
this is abs this is remarkable i this is just
best i d
this was the former
infrared showdown champion and this is
unbelievable
and is this does he think this is acceptable i don't know is this considered acceptable
i hope pastoll wins again
let's give him time to see if
what is he doing i don't understand
he definitely can't hear the oice pob dot com baby
the uch seems he won once and he lost all motivation
looking missione what is he doing i don't understand
can i onn death
i don't know about
no you cant undafen him but since i get my intro can i go grab smokes and chicken wings
y yup
fine
ok
back
can someone ping mess pesto
into the twenty first century
i just tried to contact thehm
and so we'll see
we got the full cam
this is a microsoft powerpoint introduction
from
esto mine
last week's infrared showdown
champion it wait this is your champion
we
apparently i mean it seems like an eight gt camera
it seems it seems like it on we actually do this hello yes there is
psto m'm why is your camera in portrait mode and why is you why are you giving us a powerpoint
presentation
i j i just kinta taked so we can see your boogers up your nose man
what is going on pistol mme is
is there something we
hello
yes
you are alive in front of four thousand people
four thousand
and let's not forget about the millions and millions of c t v s fans that are watching right yeah
and this is how you present yourself
yes uh
i didn't i didn't know the schedules were going to align this way
oh
but you were the one who told me what time to be here ok
no my schedule not yours
so my name's hello
thank you les bones all right
this is quite the disaster as you rotate your phone
sideways
there you go
so i'm asmasing
pestemie introduce us to who you are
why you wan
the last showdown
and why you deserve
to stomp all over the defeated and dead in a video game bodies of every single person here
after proclaiming victory once again
hello everybody
i'm pissed on mine last time i won becazz
of the simple fact that mankind is not an animal and truth comes from principle
not from the bottom up
but from the top down
interesting
also i read lyndon rouch
and jackson din it
which is why he lost
interesting
and what are you doing right now because this we are a little bit confused and taken aback
hey everybody y today i'm over here with the a
red berets for medicare for all
and they're teaching me how to knit
but theres been a problem because the meediing went on longer than i thought it would
and where do you lie on the political spectrum
um
i have ascended past the political spectrum and do you plan on winning this debate
it depends on scheduling
what
that is the most miserable response i have ever heard
it seems to me that pesto is not in it to win it
and he is here to dishonur the name
of la rouge
no what the hell
oh
moving on roochpav com baby
the rouche pubt problematicpan
probably the most spineless conservative on the cast
he doesn't even believe
and donald trump
not a fucking conservative dipshit
and what
oh sorry i was talking to one of my chatters
where do you lie on the political you're talking to him ok
i don't think i was i would never disrespect fucking hos like that oh i did i live slw down n slow down oh 's do it this is my fucking interest t v you've got your turn in just a second all right s yeah bdy
w how is it all of a sudden that when you don't have a spine with anybody else thatn all of a sudden you think you that whever i try to step in and help you out that now's the time you know hot a sp
i will not have
the infrared judicial system
be smeeched
by his outbursts of impassioned
blind
ra
save it for the debates
now pair
tell us where
but you lie on the political spectrum and why everyone who disagrees with you
isas a piece of share
yeah i'm liberight everybody disagrees with me as a piece of shit
because their ums fuck
all my takes are good all their takes are bad
uh i'm here to fuck and win this time last time we had some
some trouble but rouche pub is going to get snomped this time there's no way he's going to win again
i'm here when you cane hear how disheartened he is
wasn't even in its when it you could s even you could tell you could tell he wasn't here to win it
i'm here to stop this time i'm ready to
to get my first belt and make a good impression so thank you hos for having me
ah next time get some better competition though because
these intros have been jokes to be completely honest
o f unbelievable
next up
we have
the most esteemed and famous guest on the panel
compared to which everyone seems
like an easy meal
the alpha
wove
se re
everybody give it up for c t v
wich is most famous conservative
and debate champion
welcome welcome you all to the c t v show we're going to put it down tonight let me tell you it's going to play out right pan
right that's fine it's going to get ripped the fuck out i don't eve know what the fuck he was thinking a minute ago but that sill isy yllan blaye
right clearly hass bitch from the start because if i was laying on that fucking couch i'd have told has abro
i'm bucking here if you don't like the way i showed up i don't know if i can tell you but clearly madeing
clearly we got the bitch right so
and then we got we got charmhole up there doing charmholes thing which is very charming right but it's full of holes
and then we' got banks in the american natural course they're going to be bring it up around top
so i am the conservative main boss here in twitch politics all over doesn't matter where you're at the millions and millions
the ctv's fans are just waiting
to figure out
right
what's going on tonight and what's going on tonight is that we're smacking em down we're setting em up and we're smacking em down again if you smell what c t v is smoking
billionaire
on friggate believable
so c t v
what do you have to say to the
left wing scum
in the downll
as a christian christian american constitutional conservative
right i know god's on my side
i know that the country that i served loves me dearly
and there is no fucking way that you're going to be able to marry
any of your ideology directly to the constitution the way that i do so i hope you're ready for the ass wpen because so as you decide to come this way this is exactly what you're going to get
l and blay
that's a direct call out
to you
well c t v i might not be able to marry my ideology
con
brady sure i married
i'm pretty sure your mike's coming in week and nobody heard what the fuck you said ok i said i might not my ideologyks and talking to your mike ok
yeah i said i might not be able to marry my ideology to the constitution but i'm pretty sure i got married to your mother last weekend really doesn't fucking hit his hard whenever you had to shk shotjo
free blievabsm eting chicken wings i'm eating chicken wings right now ok
yeah not only that but when she's in the urn that sitting up there on the fireplace it just kind of lets everybody know that you're uh
that you haven't got i'm w sing a whine al right i'm a sick freak c tv the only wec stick in the dirt so
exactly
there's a song i like a band called wen it go way in the wys you know
moving on
we have appearing on the show
for the first time
three
vegs stick are you a vegan
yes i'm a vegan gender queer non binary conservative
left wing what what
no
it's no that's not true it's actually uh
hang out this
that's my name
you could just call me bevegel for a short
um i'm also laushi
just like a pasto mine
here and i
ah
by the way can i can i be heard ok somebody just told me that they can't hear me you can be heard
i would just say you know i'm a big proponent of science i believe that every individual is capable of something beautiful
and i am the most famous person on here
i'm actually the camell harris heckler
uh what i may
yeah i made i made internete round of applause it's none other than the amea haris heckler
you were on the news
even i can applause that from the right ok good job buddy
that was me that was me in terms of left or right i would say like paesto i
transcended i'm in the six dimension
of politics you guys couldn't even catch up
oh
well but other that but on a serious note i don't identify left or right i think i'm just reasonable
uh ya
so it's an interesting predicament
last time we were lacking any right wing representation
and today
it looks like you by that what about me
it looks like the lefties
have failed to show up
all the are disarab andunbelievable
because they heard c t v was going to be here and they din't feel like get destroyed
complete cowardice
so it seems like
the right wingers are goinga dominate the panel today
unless a brave left winger comes on to challenge
them
are we supposed to be looking at me right now it's not going to
someone i'm just going to say i'm just going to say re by this listen there's somebody out there
no ball
you' heard see t v right
absolutely no balls no balls
we can call some people out can we call some people out
absolutely bozz
beginning with
dara you know what i think darya darya would be a good one but you know what the reality is next week we got the ip championship with fucking destiny where's destiny's fucking ass
wh
it looks like destiny
can't handle a panel
like this
wow the panel
wow
disney's driving to miami
apparently
you know what's he doing right now gu is driving from cali to fuck in miami dude because he wants right out of a blue state just like everybody else does because for right a democrats and that tk liberals are and leftists are ruining fucking i guys you know the country
a right away question about know exactly what his schedule is what's destiny's itinerary for the next two monthsse
i had no idea something this is not a destiny gossip channel
nine
no it's a gladiatorial arts and fights to thedapt
precisely
well
we might be having someone come on
oh you didn't introduce notcho has of radically suggest yes i did
a huge suply shure
don't
fuking question the con
all right let's see if we have a ok
but he's coming on
all right
where caught we're having a lefty come on
y you got to get somebody demand because these guys are fucking
not even competition ok this is going to be a blowout
good one did
he charing doesn't even ha positions dylan blaze fucking t pan doesn't know who he is
and this guy's from fuck in central america he doesn't know who he is either he just likes the yell at come all heres
nobody on this panel has any fucking positions except for the people on the right
you didn't get an intro that show you're not even here
what about me why i don't need it in i have positions i have positions it's called nap time position who i said you yeat your position is taken that
i give it i thought it position was face down ass up
yeah your your position was my dick blows in the wind which is fine
but i mean
some of ours don't so
you know sorry buddy but
your dick blows in the wind is it flaccid
i ask don't blay that's i mean that's pretty
he said when the i'm a wen listener i'm a ween list he's i'm meanliss he said that thing is flap and so i was like ot are you sure that
you'r dick or is that the pubes i mean i don't know
in' know that all goes right i'll be in your arms the other two ders on the chap in the panel
he is here
all right
my camera work and they
know no cameras are working
last but not like a youw bberm
we have read chile in
now where do you lie on the political spectrum
a far left some would say as left as you need to be in any given situation you know i try to be more practical than my contemporaries
uh same with when you go up and down it's like you know you got to deal with what you' got you know if you're
let's say let's you'r benjamin frank in the american revolution you're going to have to kill some people you have to pass some individual but individual you know in frankly in history in history i s as an example in history
i don't want to do that a shit ample though because it frankly kill people
i to think bet yeah what is this chaos this isn't a fucking fucking left he's on here i'm sorry what is this right you know i'm t i'm trying to throw you a bone i'm trying to respect your countrymn like you know you could accept it you could take it all right you know i got a lot of admiration for the american revolutionaries so lay in
what do you have to say to your
right wing opponents on the panel today
i would say to left wingers to america left wingers tomica right wingers the
a left right division your the political parties that you are accustomed to they don't have your best interests at heart
you got a you got a lot of work to do to to take back your country but uh you know
nothing nothing worth doing is easy
but
and you are aware
however i live in chile
i live a youre there can only be one victor of the showdown
yeah you know it's gona be me man
you go you are't go were calling out with t v directly and telling us yeah you know what
yeah
i'm not i'm i'm a new guy i'm not going to start and uh you know sw my my uh
my stick around it everywhere but uh you know yeah i think i could take him
you just robbering like otve
cetv what do you have to say to this challenger
hope you're ready
oh now ight
and with that's n fry i'd like to leave i appreciate it s mangy appreciate it
going in the barbarian quote
wait who said keep the profanity
on me in my stream is p g s meant for a general i on the wrong panel by i'm on notcho you can you can do this you can you know i want any mother fok and profanity in this brich thank you thank you
you understand
anyway
with that we are going to begin our first topic
and i must add
that
pestomin needs to show his fucking face
thero
and wal do or baby
and second of morning with grandma's ok and show your face
just a second the neveron shut up
and second of all
this is really important to
everyone needs to know that today's showdown format is going to be the same as last week's
so chat by the end of the round is going to vote
who to keep
not
ky
and the winner's going to be able to decide from the bottom two
to eliminate
from the show
no our first topic is this
the country has been embroiled
in controversy and political
turmoil over the debate surrounding abortion
due to recent laws being passed
and court precedents
being had in a number of states
that threatened to overturn
row the way
in one of them
in one of them
the
yeah
what the fuck was the direct quote
one of the judges who ruled against
the restriction against abortion
on the supreme court claim
that it threatens to politicize the judiciary
and do you legitimize the institution of the supreme court
forever
is the debate surrounding abortion
destroying the foundations
of this country's judicial system
point
there are no child beears that's open top of you should puck shut the fuck ofp man a simple ususe man me have a fucking opinion man shut the fuck up there are no ti shut the fuck up and we will do this one at a time charmhole what do you want to open with
we
he's got his mouth there's n women fuking deabire's no doure fking already man what are you talking on down ill you we should have fuck up
first of all charmhole who the box fault is it that there are no women here is that my fault
uh i think it's actually twitch's fault
it's your fault for inviting sure it's whoever put the fucking pan together i know i agree it's jo johns carying away the girls woman's fault
k
i think people were trying to call yous and now they're too pussy to fuck and standard what they were saying ok i think
ver everyone sat up here everyone sat up
if you don't have anything fuckin of substance to say
shut your fucking trak
we don't need fucking twelve people talking all at once
now see t v you can go and then
ah
who wanted to respond to him chlay and can respond to him
o go all right so look the fucking problem here is that when it comes to people
having opinions about things you have to make sure that you understand where that opinion is warranted inside the framework government that we have
but the fuck and reality here is is that it takes two to fuck and tak go so the thought from the start of thinking oh well we don't have any vaginas here all of a sudden abortion can be talked about
bull fuck and shit men are the other half of this fucking equation and if you think men are supposed to have an opinion about it well that's your fucking problem right so
this is my take on it right our constitution is laid out pretty specifically this is supposed to be a state's rights issue and i'll tell everybody this's on the left that if you don't fuck and like the things that conservatives are
conservative states are putting into place as far as what's going to be allowed there well shut the fuck up about it and make sure the shit's right in your fucking state
right
stay the fuck out of their state and that's just how it is when it comes to some of these things and that's a part it's that's what it's like to be a part of a glorious fucking union
right so if you don't like it
fok off
right because nobody gives a fuck about your opinion on this thing outside of your state
advocate for what you want in your state and if you don't fuck and like it there we'll fuck and move to somewhere where it fits your fucking personality i' i'm sorry i see t v but excuse me sir right on liberties even everybody s up man when you hear my voice
shot your fucking trap
now you can go
and then others could have a turn go aead me ye know i had a turn ma come on
y fine chiley and you go the ga let's see okay bx
c t v man look that's all ight dandy but it goes both ways man if you if you're going to say that you can't complain about abortion los in one state then hey i abortion gets passed in one state and women are going over to that state a goain abortion and that's the right
you know that's all going to say's not what it w but that's not what its exactly what that's say ok we're in agreement were we're in agreement
ok good i'm glad to w mother sedir time i on what's going on make sure you make sure you note that chilean conceded first time up ca c t v wll to sle ok fin a point of agreement
not's over
i don't think this should be a point of agreement states don't have the right to infringe on individual rees the entire fucking point of individual state of a fuking bing if you if california wants to have fucking slavery they don't have that right that infringes on individual reason that's the entire fucking point that youd what according to the sense it's great
but well you know what everybody sid the fuck up
what the fuck kind of trashy panel do you think i'm putting up
this is a professional high quality grade so
of that is supposed to
reach
the heights
oh
which
infamy
isn't some ten viewer trashy show we're all just pucking
scream and talk over each other so let's go one by one
ok yes so to continue the tah amendments great n all but the right to privacy
clearly insantiated by like at least five amendments first amendment obviously says you have a right to privacy you have a right to say whatever you want in your own
you know presens third amendment obviously about privacy you know i have the right to not have soldiers in your home fourth amendment yat due process and shit
it the men of those are the caenth amendment
well yeah but i'm re and i rem to fucking google the tenth amendments you know the fucks a talking about was a creting not in ft you know what you know what you know what i'm going to i'm going to focus this i'm going to bug at this now
not so
let him funk and talk and then you can go we're going to gieve it between notz and pan for now go ahead
to be clear what the tenth amendment says is that all rights not specifically in the constitution basically go to the states right
now what i'm saying is the right to privacy is in the constitution it's clearly instantiated in amendments one
three four five and nine so his argument that oh wll the tenth amendment doesn't make any fucking sense for the tenth amenment is hey
if something if another a men if it's not covered by the constitution and it goes the states weill guess what this is covered by the constitution so his argument about the tenth amendment doesn't make any sense
well it also gives the states the right to choose whether or not they implement and how they choose to implement those
right
from the constitution most certainly not talking about the fourteent af amendment but the process this is what you should this is i was ca for ar tim not so not so through not so shut up let him respond the you can go
the de well you to ooks of the fourteenth amendment clearly shows that
the bill of rights the first t amendments do apply to at least some provisions of the first amendments do apply to the states so the idea that oh this doesn't apply to the states is just completely ridiculous i mean we saw seen as early as griswold be are not grisl
um second
get lovy new york
that some rights and bill of rights are applied to the states and this is one of those rights so you're just
completely wrong on that front
i don't know what i'll tell you
so specifically you the problem is it took you five minutes a name through like one through four all these fucking amends and like name to all the shit so that you could sit there and google what the tenth amendment was you'd have any fucking like btle whatever i mean as whatri inially brought point but it gs the states the right that's a but you get so let's see t go
and we're going to have a new rule
every time i have to repeat myself
more than one time i'm taking the person
and we will just do this like a batt or yal last person standing
let's see tv go go ahead
yh so you're both missing the point right pay and the reason why the tenth amendment got brought up is because you wanted to use
slavery is the justification which
you should have more aptly pointed at the thirteenth amendment as to why things are different now
right so like your argument is completely negated by the fact that the thirteenth amendment exists
and it in no way shape for or fashion bears any weight in the current abortion conversation that we're having right so like that whole thing that you guys just did while cute
was was unproductive ok
but the resu mat the thirteenth amendment applies the states of the fourteenth amendment due process clause
what we're talking about which is what basically insates all wrong rights onto the states wrong
it is wrong because the thirteenth minute once it got put into place applied to all fifty states meaning that slavery was not prohibited anymore
right the fourteenth amendment bri which is
which is something different right than the thirteenth amendment
is not what creates the environments
to where slavery now applies to everybody
thirteenth amendment on its own means that slavery is not allowed
now where you were having the conversations and arguments earlier with regard to the first second and etcpra
amendments along the way
uh with regard to the fourteenth that's where you get into that but currently we're not there so with regard to abortion
it is in fact a state's issue
and i'm kind of glad that the conversation is coming back around
because
the rovy wade seemed more like legislation from the bench
than what i'm comfortable with the judiciary actually take a part of i would much rather have legislation be put in place
at state level to decide a thing until
every other fucking person thaty would advocate for it at the federal level to fuck off
i mean right now as of right now in a in most states right
if you have a late term abortion you're gon to be charged with murder
right like the state
gets all excited because they're like oh yeah hell yeah there's a girl here
let's put them in prison as a slave right because they can hold on one second here's what i'm going to do here's what i'm going to do right
this person right here in the top right
i'm not just going to disconnect him i'm not just going to kick him
he's actually going to be perma band
okay
and
he's back
forever
based
continue
awesome
oh yeah no so like i said like the state
fucking lovs
policing women like it's one of their most favorite things right
like there was a girl in texas who got caught by redit licking ice cream on tik tok then putting it back
and she's like serving twenty years in prison i at what is on the screen i'm going i'm going to clean this up a little bit more
this yeah
pesto min is disqualified there we go conin
than oh yeah no so again if we're talking about policing women which i'm sure all the chuds here love to do
their like while also saying like c t v goes oh it's about liberty it's about liberty ray oh get the government out of here like a broken fucking record
like you don't even have to have him on the panel actually everybody already knows what he's going to say which is
just let you do your own thing all right
meanwhile you got ncho over here clapping along going yes queen let's police women in their
azs late
they pocrisy is on real unreal
wh air up there on virtue signal mountain buddy
we let me just say i just ask something though i mean
you lose an eyes that the whole abortion debate about
whether or not people should
get rid of what's in there
body or not i mean
why do you have a country that has
as a has has a had a rise in abortion
the the last thirty years
why do you find that there's more people who want to get rid of their baby
rather galize keep
because it's being encouraged
w wa way wa is the rass are you saying that
people just take behaviors on like if you make something legal people are going to do it
wle the people who weren't doing it before be haause it would be a rme would start doing it obviously that the point of law is to a certain degree yeah
like proation the same thing would happen i feel like you would see the same thing that happen
if if marijuana was legalized tomorrow
i'm an advocate of that but however if it was legalized to morrow you would see a lot of you'd see a spike in like the purchase and the sale and the
and the use of marijuana
well marijuana le yes service and here it's practically been legalized what you think i mean almost every day marijuana usage has been no reson has not less
yah i mean in los angeles i federally that we do that youre right so reiz yes
when two people speak
it sounds like diarrhoea no one can hear what anyone saying
you understand
now we're going to do this one by one not so you go then pan you go you too
you are the problematic couple here you know
you guys just love talking over each other
and you also happen to have the most annoying buck and voices on the panel so when you both talk at once
what the fuck happened
when you both talk at once
it just so happens to be especially unpleasant
so i know you two got a problem here
and we got to solve this beef and solve this problem
so we are orienting this to a one b one
not versus pan
ho can i give not so
one minute to speak
then i'm going to git pay
one minute to speak
then not so one minute
then pan
and then one minute of both of you just talking over each other
i'll look i'll defer to pan first on what's what's going on c t
well i just want to ask you is this like a private gladiatorial match to the fucking don you i wouldn' lok you can jump in as long as it's not too chaotic sy
got s you
so not so you have and i'm going to sip the timer right now
that
i'll defer i'll let you can let pan go first
ben one minute
go ahead
all right sure i mean just to make my point apologize for talking over people that's how these panels work
on thank you for putting down your iron fist i'll make sure to
follow all the rules from no you just wasted ten seconds i'm aware with that i don't need all sixty seconds i'm going to give it him in the seconds and thank you for wasting ten more of my second but that's ok to
so yeah i think i've basically made my point when you have a constitutional right individual right
it doesn't matter the fact that the majority disagrees with it that's the entire point of constitutional rights so even in states where abortion is unpopular
the fact that's an individual right obviously makes it so that it's ok
and that you aren't allowed to pass laws against it
now i mean i'd love to hear what notcha says but
you know i guess we'll just send it over there the reason you wanted him to talk first because it was his turn to talk so le o say first
yeat so first i'm not going to apologize for anything ok hans thanks for being a good host ok
i'm a
glad to see you doing what you're doing
we have with i thinks our first time meeting but yeah whatever do do it wasting ten seconds i apologie for shit ok
ah but
yeah i look
what
if you're trying to choose like when it's ok to kill babies and when it's not ok to kill babies
i have the position that it's not ok to kill babies
at any time ok once you create
a separate set of d n a inside the mother
that's a new experience that's a new potential human that's coming out of there
and that's different from that's separate from like okay you're just the sperm or you're just the egg
whatever so that's the kind of position that i that i'm taking on this thing
uh yes it does fall down to like the state's rights and that's why i brought up the tenth amendment
it is up to the states to some degree
to decide whether or not they want to implement these laws
th'us where the tenth amendment comes into play
ok so i'm glad you google this and i'm glad that you're finally up to speed but the rest of the fucking conversation
and yeah i don't know you're not rave
pn go ahead
yeah i mean i think we can open this up the panel obviously american nacho here isn't going to get it through his head that the tenth amendment
delegates rights that aren't guaranteed by the constitution federal government to the states obviously
as i've said before which he has had no response to the fact that the first the third
fourth the fifth and the ninth amendment clearly insantiate together right to privacy
doesn't
you know contested that it all so i don't know what to argue against he just keeps
talking about the tenth amendment
but the t amendment doesn't apply to constitutionally guaranteed rights so im
i don't think we need to do a one the one anymore what we we there
i you go ahead
well this weo like him don't care because they just want to have as many babies as possible
because a lot of people i'm like the big boys are tking a powerful country
am you me a fucking headingch man
well no go ahead and people who have actually thought out their position with a these things are having a conversation i want to hear c t v go ahead cee t v
yes so the fact of the matter is is that
one pan none of your arguments are supported by the constitution this is always been the state's argument
right and
when it comes to the new life that is born
who protects that life
right
you'd have to also be of the position that you would not have any rights to life or anything or privacy for that matter
until you exited the room
right
uh by natural means or perhaps through c section right so at that point it's like okay so
why is it that when people get in a car accident sy and you kill a pregnant woman and her baby that you're charged with two lives
in sead a one right
so this is why the logical fallacy in sops way into law whenever you can get charged for two lives
but somehow whenever we get into conversations about whether or not the life can be terminated
all of a sudden is supposed to be allowed even though it required two people to fuck and make the life
right so this is where the disingenuous of disingenuin this
of the argument comes into play
because you're not addressing the two people that made the fucking life the law that would hold you responsible for the loss of the life if there was an accident
and
the legalities of it because the legalities of it pointed directly viy the tenth amendment back at the states because it
of what abortion is in fact a medical procedure performed by medical professionals right
on a patient who is in need period
period
yeah but you're also what about
when you don't know they're pregnant what about when the woman
doesn't know they're pregnant right
not only that but
a lot of women can hide it pretty well for a long time
they can hidew pregnancy
well we're talking about hold on charm if we're talking about abortion
how is a woman supposed to get an abortion if they don't know they're pregnant
make it
well well ok
so let's say you're three months along and you fucking log er go you're on the thing of cand are you not calling mustly going on here shut the fuck up
are you are you want t channels of the sy m right now you want medeo you at ro it looks like me right now you st on your phone about like uking google mats i questre where you're walking but it's not anb you was like you're not eveing to the same fucking universe right now you're stupid bees a yit
anser the question
you did great you did shut up right and you happen to be pregnant and you're riding a rollercas youre over no sin
you're going to find out after some jom holts out of you
gays to go
ok thank you
um i would just say that you know this whole conversation is just kind it's just going to it's just going to go circles because
state right federal right
about the fact that people are
wanting to kill life within them i mean you said well
it became legal therefore people want to convicce
the
excuse me people want to do you know abort their babies
well ok
if suicide was then legalized would you then say yes then people will just start killing themselves well
i mean what's the repercussion if you kill yourself you're dead already it doesn't matter what's legal or not legal at that point
the question is why do you have people who
want to
i bougt their baby and why do you have people
who would want to do these things to themselves whether it be you know suicide or drug overdosing right
i mean you say all those things are we can't talk about the as the suicide thing so
member oh
so well i can explain it without talking about that so just real quick
right let me put it in ways these chuds can understand oka
so
when
you have somelecting i didn't need you to put it in a way that you can understand he responded to chose if you can understand the you'reon of us are going to undu funny you've been stumbling through this fucking panmel all night i let's almost speak
thank you has conan
so let me put it in ways you can understand even notcho
so let's say right you've got
an antifa baby attacking your uterus and your body what right and you can feel it shutting down
you can feel your body be personally attacked
by this baby you would like to have
but it's killing you
so you have to do a self defense murder no way to come armo you can't
you are really you got to rain it you got to walk it back a little bit because
rained it you know this
what a what a bizarre example you just
explain what you mean without talking about
ah
antifa and murder
i think he meant i think he knows i think he meant exactly what he said
well no so you have to defend be called it murder just like i do your body is dying the
a child the d n a in your body that you've created is attacking your body you're going to die if you continue to have this baby
in your body
so unfortunately you have to abort
right
like it happens like nobody like you talk to most women they're not like
hell yeah like
they're not i'd be surprised if you not anyone want
it to die right they because they often don't
like humans generally love to procreates what we do right
so this whole no thes to yeaes sure you know that would havey that the majority of abortion cases are because if i don't get this thing out of me
i was going to kill me
right and which is why people like notacho and
you know they love they love the bureaucracy of government because
just
from the government and doctors what they'll do is they'll be like doctors
make em wait three more weeks oh no well we'll see in three more weeks and three more weeks well suddenly five months have gone by and then they're like oh we can't do anything you're gonn to die for that baby and we're going to take babies are born in three weeks or tll your baby and let you die
the not a lot of fun with this
there's not a lot of female representation on this panel so i'll try to screwp for a woman
a what if you're a woman and you just love having abortions like you're addicted to abortions
getting rid of that would get rid of like a hobby i want to circle back some bg a stick said that i thought was going to san
you know it doesn't matter if the abortion is legal it doesn't matter if it's illegal you know we live in abortive societies
like a teenage girl that might get a might get a pregnancy because life fucking happens
she's not in the conditions to raise a child
i would rather the girl didn't have an abortion
i would rather go haved the conditions of the support so that she could have a she could raise a kid
right i think every abortion is a tragedy
but
you know like
the the way i approach this is i want to build a side i want to build a country that that no abortion is ever needed
right like you know
right oh we we go here we hes go back and forth all day you know it's illegal should it be lllegal should it be illegal
man
that that's alwys alution a st that'spletly agre we're in the same ot right like we're from we're
my my family's from fuck in mexico okay we're from
but south america like
we're trying to build families
we're not trying to fuck in like a bort famili
like you can have the same
i mean you seem like you were you were on the same line as i am almost
i think so you would be
yeah i i'm i'm fine with building
a society where
a adoption means not that you're going to go in an orphanage you're going to have like this fuckin like terrible
like foster home
horrible like life growing up
like if it if it means that we have to put more money into
adoption if we have to put more money into like foster care if we have to put more money into
ah subsidizing like adoption
i'm going that you know raising even as a right winger i'm fine with that
course but if it means like birthing more american citizens
that's cool with me that's a general in general in in the new world like in the americas you have a small populations that you do in europe and that's not just because you know like
it it's worse to live here it's just
you know the humans have been around here as well the's a loty to kill the babies that's why
im i'm i think we're in agreement
do you think the w do you think the reason that
people have abortions is because they are intentionally trying to reduce the population
no but i think that i think it's unfortunate reality wouldn't i think it's an unfortunate reality that our states aer
our it's unfortunate that our states do not support families they don't support
you know creating incineration education is garbage there's no jobs right like you know those are the real solution problems that we have solve we want to get ri of is one step away fromert ok that's i'm saying that chill you got to think so i got to i got a question for you i go with it i got a question for you right so here's the question
it sounds to me like you're advocating for a government mandated
uh chess the belts
this was it and that what is thats like to you the souns like you problem and i don't know what to tell you you said you want to create a world where abortion was necessary right so the only way that you're going to be able to control whether or not people are fucking right is to put the coxs and vaginas under lock and key
right i gus but i think this is a you problem
the trying to create the fucking system how the fuck is it a me problem whenever i'm listening to what you're sayingces solution right and then when i come up with a solution i say oh it sounds like you're looking at you're like no that's you problem well no that's a you not listening fucking problem that's what that is you you couldn't hear
you want government mandated
cock rings and chest the cucking belts on the way is adds od it
the t vman i don't know i don't know goes and what happens between your ears and your mouth
i i i'm that that point doesn't doesn't deserve a response dude the yanswer is no that's not what i want
y tonayparker
so you're against
uh going back to something you said like do people commit abortions because they want to intentionally reduce the population
i don't know i would go as far as to say that but
i've seen a lot of stuff where people say oh man
you know i kind of wish i didn't have my kids because they're only going to contribute to the climate change problem
or i've seen people say you know i feel sorry
about the fact that my daughter justmy parents are talking to bir
the some sad shit out there dude i there's no sad shit out there
because because people genuinely believe that we're more harmful for the planet than we are good i mean i think this is a point that pesstomine would make right
you know
are human beings inherently
destructive
for the planet or are we inherently good
for the planet
you know what what do you know i would just pose that right and then there is where you get the idea
as to whether or not it's ok to commit abortion because
come from a society and a culture
that believed that every human life
can advance all of humanity infinitely
well then you would understand os itll i'd better keep this thing inside me
and i better keep it safe and let it come out and develop it and and give it the best possible education it could get
so that you could have a society
that could benefit
from the good it could bring
riely ser briefly
jj i'll let you go just super briefly like
moret so that one fels at duty
to to give birth one feels supported by their community by their society by the state such that
you know
even though it might be hard they know that can do it
but as an accelerationist i really do believe in one billion americans i think hell yeah
let's start programming as much as possible let's get as many babies as possible
and let's take care of our families together
oh
together this entire abortion debate we get back to the iran ares actually hav gates are going to don what they're going to do anyway
most states are going to absolutely put the woman in earthy you know
possible mother in prison
even if they just accidentally lose the baby they'll still more than willingly do it right
so
more fucking more babies lets
go
for when we are going to vote
to eliminate
one boring
ok
and we will vote to keep not kick
because there are certainly people
but we could be without
i have no one in mind in particular but
it does seem a little crowded
based on the participation
all right
now we're going to go ahead
and vote
who do you want to keep
not kick
this fuck in my mouth's not showing up oka hold on
there we go
cheap
not
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go ahead
wait this is like a witchfull then spend the link in the jat mod spend the ink of the jat it's going to say are we in our mission you not your way
by moy let me b let meer i know the little bit go gate who was that i amllding night sorry about your president he's kind of cran you know
let's stark astward yeah it good i could keep off for like the first but oh shit we're not muted i thought we were we commuted that's not good not soer
to talk rush all right we are done
oh we are done voting and it as it turns out the person in the lowest
bottom category is binks now binks
you contributed nothing to this panel and you know what i am very glad
that you're gone by bitch
now
i's going on
to the next topic
god where does pesto get these people
anyway
the next topic is
and making the necessary adjustments because of the composition of the cast
is it america's business to challenge russia on ukraine
russia seems to be making moves to defend its border in light of a ukrainian assault
and don bas
and eastern ukraine
and russias
rejecting the idea
of ukraine joining nato a country on its border
does the us have a right
to intervene in that conflict
eight
yeah i think i don't know if u s has a right but i think do we do we need to yeah i think we need to intervene this the same way we need to intervene like in taiwan
al is similar
i know as much as i'm against like warhwks in the u s
yeah i think it's important that the u s control there would be no conflict to help their allies out were would be nl with russia
there would be no conflict if the s was removed this is completely manufactured by the united states russia has no aggressive intentions in ukraine that's just
i mean i caf i go that far but i do we did l croyser for that but obviously if russia does you know invade ukraine like crimea i mean they're allegedly threatening to then we would have a right but as of now i mean there's no need for it
right like i mean
i'm sorry go going we don't want to have we don't want to go to war with russia there's no need to provoke the shit the question is right now do we have a reason to go to like basically to
side with ukraine against russia i'm imagining that's the type of force we're talking about here no we probably shouldn't go to russia for ukraine if russia
does end up you know invading ukraine ok maybe then we have a responsibility to help but as of now there's no reason to escalate the tensions without cause
you need to but we're not escalating any fucking tensions
ukraine is the one that's like trying to give up land
to try to satisfy russia
no no no the joint no no no no the joint deal proposed the proposed de the proposed deal between russia and ukraine that russia brought to the table was one where that would return the sovereignty of don bass to ukraine
crimea is a different issue altogether the people who live within crimea have
they they do not want to be within ukraine if you look at the history of russian if you look at the history of ukraine the people there are historically russian
right it was given to you negti of the seven dominate it was a vote overseen by russian officials
it's up but but also it also rives with historical twints it als wait wait wait because if we stepped in
let's say it went the other way and crimea voted like
let's stay with ukraine
but it was the u s federal government overseeing the vote
wouldn't youe have the same fucking disagreement you like yeah us did it speectright this is a us did it i would you let ussing the elections that's exactly what happened with crimea
this do inically to respond to that
very dignicantly
youre do just very quickly
if the u s the were side i would have a problem because whre the fuck is the s in eastern europe if germany did it i think that would be a lot more reasonable
you are both forgetting the fact you think it'd be reasonable for germany to do it
because germany it's a natural like overseeing power it's a regional power it makes sense for them to be involved in that
they're going to talkld you're fucking litle and you can't trust the germans for the shit ok you just can't
his history has shown us you can't trust the germans but the fact of the matter is is that if the united states was going to get involved
the only way that by our constitution that it could actually get involved would be to have a vote proposed in ukraine for them to become a state to the united states regardless of that fact what it would have to happen after
some action by russia that was not consensual into ukraine then ity would have tos n going to happen
it would have to be ukraine calling for aid and then we would have to decide whether or not we would actually go
right this these are why
frameworks of government are important so we understand the process so if you if the united states
wants to be involved then they need to start talks about ukraine becoming a state otherwise mind your own fuck in business well first of all though but you're completely wrong because
for one
the united states funded a coup in ukraine is the my don coup where joe biden
all that money
to usa id in victoria newland
and that money ended up in the hands of neo nazis
we then overthrow the president
so i'm just going to curious did you go to the wizard and talk to him about putting the brain inside that straw man that you're building right now w
that was his wrisch man relaxed good one brove
whole conflict has been manufactured because right now
there's really like a puppet government in ukraine you know we put our guy in there
ukraine really doesn't do anything
right other than what we tell it to do and then linski is just crazy
right so
we've already instigated
we've already put we've already you know ukraine has just been assess pool at this point of
cia intelligence you know of american influence of money
right so when you're talking about russia and ukraine you have to realize that what's going on behind the scenes is that victoria nuland
the woman who funded the coup
is in
in the administration in the bading administration right now
ok as the foreign policy adviser to biden
so right which is i'm glad you bring it up because you're bringing a lot of great points which is exactly why if you're if you were asking me as far as a framework of government cia f b i
fucking a t f d a all of these federal branches of the government these bureaucracies would be fucking gone
right because you're not supposed to be there
so
that's right there
brings you back to like why is that the federal government to begin with was restricted to the size that it was and the continuing expansion of it and continuing cost of it is just a bad fucking idea
right o in this situation with regard to ukraine and russia
unless ukraine is asking for help
mind your own fucking business
what one one moment we have a new contender
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so just if i'mll shug up bup up perfect oh sorry max
ggga where do you lie politically so you can introduce it to the audience
um i guess i'm a marxist leninist h i'm a
disgrace
fathers of mine
i'm a feminist i guess those are like my most important and m anti imperialist
all right everyone continued
so if
like i'm figuring it out right like
ukraine has some warm water ports that russia would be pretty happy about getting so i assume ukraine is no they haven't
wait so russia has control of the sebastipol station is currently under the control of russia
that's what the whole rimia thing was about moon is g g right i mean at that point it's just
ukraine in name only like
she has no interest in yourrain russia is russia is not is not
preparing for an invasion of ukraine they have no interest there they don't not care for what out for that for that land
so then why does america care
come down on america one moment
we have
something to take care of
there we go continue
there is i like them
what happened who did we just kic
pay no attention to the khan's decisions to executively eliminate those
we make our panel
look like prime case continue
do
yeah well i think what charhhl asked was an interesting question
if they're not
like threatening to invade ukraine then what's the purpose of having all their troops on the border are they actually worried about ukraine attacking first uh i'm not particularly knowledge about this but like why
but what is the casce of doing that there's no lok rush let's get let's get you qualitt let's get let's get something qualitative first they don't have all their troops on the border this is not this is not the reality
right so you reality
the other reality here is it
let's let's look at other examples of history why might someone actually post troops at a border
it could be because that they're preparing to support that that that country
because they could be being invaded by someone else
right so let's just not think the's only one reason why a nation might actually do that thing the example comes to belgium during world war two right
they put going to invade ukraine way ok let's look at it seems that it seems the main conflict here
he's people like nacho
who want the uus to get involved and think it needs to get involved
and others like chilean
ctv
andv gay stick
who think that the us has no business whatsoever there
so natcheal what do you say to those
weho are calling you out
yeah i mean i i think it's important for the u s to maintain their positions that they have in the in the geopolitics arena like
we've been a supporter for ukraine
we've been a supporter for democracy across the globe
and i think it's important for us to maintain our relationship
with those countries who were also in support of democracy
who were also in support of like somewhat
h of free speech and in support of like free elections etcetera
i think it's important for us to maintain those those relations
so beginly to them what do you have to say
to that
i would say that
you don't understand what's going on
because you got this guy the senator wicker
talking about hay
we're not ruling anything out
we'll even use nuclear bombs if we have to
ok when we have people in power to start talking about let's use nuclear bombs
as a way
to the
figure out how to solve a problem preemptively by the way
you've already got a country that's fucking insane
you just you at that point your country is just gone just reflect on the fact that somebody says we can preemptively use nukes
to stop a war
us what does that mean
exactly we we can thred the right we' got to let the e you know threatening nukes are they no
i mean show was no no there was a senator that explicitly i cane on that i remember that should be though' not against that w w you're not justalains well i'm go
i'm not a girl no i'm absolutely i'm not against threatening to nuke russia no
ok we shouldn't go that's it' jus going to
now i wanta hear cdv
what do you have to say to nao who says it is america's responsibility
to defend democracy around the world
well i think that there's a certain amount of involvement in the united states
incumbently has upon itself because of
the way that we've developed our technology to be sure
however i don't feel like that
mm
thinking fit
using the verbal force of threatening nuclear war
right in the station which we find ourselves in
is ever fockon smart
ever
right the fact of the matter is that we carry the big stick because we're the only nation in the world to not only drop that bucker once
but twice right we set the fuckt point that we're willing to do a fucking thing there's no reason for us to communicate threats
because we've already shown that we will in fact do a thing
you know i mean i don't need to like sit here and say oh if you don't stop doing your shit i'm going to hit you upside the head with a steelchair
it's evident everybody in the room already that because i've smacked so many mother fungers with steel chairs
that you're just like a hair trigger away from fucking getting one
right
so
you know that's kinda how i view that
and still i haven't heard like anything from anybody here that makes me
think that the united states should be involved
at all
right like is there some type of human rights abuses going on is there
you know like russia just are they just trying to reoccupy land that they have bet say like the last forty fifty years because you know there was the u s s r the sentiments of the people changing there's a whole lot of things that are going on here
that frankly
i don't know everything right and i don't ever claim to know everything but i haven't heard anything that makes me think that
russia getting involved
is necessarily bad for the people considering vladimir putin is not a staunch fucking communist
right he's embraced a lot of capitalism over the years and it's been very good for the russian people and the russian government
s
what's the deal here
it's propaganda for russia right like that's america's i think big push
is they want us to talk about it so they do right
and they use threats like nuclear king war or like oh they rigged elections
just so they can talk about it so
you have to think about the kind of businesses and the business practices exactly what they're doing over there i assume it's energy based
right
my angle
my angle on this is america is not a war
that's a problem
because america is very good at making missiles very good at making bombs and those sell for a lot of money
and that's that's the driving force behind this conflict's ho i look at this
i would just aul but that's only a small part of it because
it is you know i got to keep a condest
need to have
conflict between countries
why does that have to exist why do you why does america have to treat other countries as either enemies
or allies
that's not always the case though there's a lot of it like i think work with russia and china why why we think we like can't like i don't know whatgin absolutely can just don't fking understand like geopolitics because these are the two countries that refused to work with us this is not like a decision that like u sking made like beyond like in some point we just decided we're no longer woring with russia and we're no longer working with china
objectively wrong okay the chinese have extends en not the case station
to join the belton road many times
to work with right oh my
bigest economic economic program like like the biggest geopolitical economic joint effort like in the world that's not an in significant thing as much as as much as you can work with us i don't a much as i can shut up democrats like democrat or republican alike
don't you think that if china or russia alike had offered us any kind of significant fucking deal along the road that we would have taken it
regardless of who is in well orer
why would you take it why would you why would am why would american business interest getting when w the was to lose out on the market
that's not even a response to the question that is that yes it is yes it is just because i don't understand does i mean it's not
yeah not sure you said something a minute ago that i do want to kind of touch on for a second
fact of the matter is that there are five permanent seats of the n security council and as far as i know the n right so much as i might not be a fucking fan of it
still exists and those five permanent seats are
russia
france
the u k
united states and china
so there is at least some working together so to say that there's zero working together is inherently false it's not that's not what i said though
what what is saying that tell you what
i heard you say those words it may not have been what you meant but i heard those words
all right well that's not that's not what i mean
what i'm because what i'm trying to point out is that
the the russia and uk
i mean russia and china as countries as nations
have not sat there and offered us like
hey u s
this is the best like
possible solution this is the best way we can work together
we didn't have a cold war with russia
because we were fucking best friends
we have to gt wre with us so we don't we don't have the situation that we have with china because we're best friends and because i'm china want to're getting a strading partner like wants to want the seventh look
i'm not hating on those countries for trying to get the best deals
for their countriyes
but the fact that we should just bend over and take it all a sudden because i was't ofe and we'll whats going tof ikd do a f not so s either
not so to say
natogaga has challenged you and has said
ok noto a conservative destiny
destiny ebspan out of question so
what
what do you see like
what's your view of like the historical relationship between russia and the united states because you make it sound like
like when you say like taking it like
that's
like a very like you literally make it sound like they're like fucking us
a
like what's
no but receeve would prefer and that's what we would prefer right
that's what both of those would perpve i would prefer
absolutely
if we're if we're in a trail do trade deal with each other
we want to get the winning end of the deal if they're in to traded with us
they want to get the winning end of the deal
and neither of us are really willing
to
pw tow to the other at the moment especially right now whenever we have biden in office
and russia and china both see biden as a weak official
they say both s ha a dreak incident and a weak representative warfair
the economic outlook we economic
go ahead god
no no go go for just saying like we havent not been at war with these countries
for like the past fuck in twenty years
no you have not be officially like
sending troops at each other but we have been at war with each other
if i go that's that's a tangent iant to go there violent to the store
ok well sorry say that again i didn't i dodn't hear what
because you're saying that like trading with the country is like an act of aggression it's like very bizarre to i that's not what i'm trying to say
i'm not so i'm not saying that we can have a friendly relationship with these countries
but
if we're going to simply like cow tow to every
to there if we're going to basically say
you know what you set the terms
you tell us what to do
that's not where we need to be
if i may if i may
you keep using thiss like russa terms what terms are talking about
ho's going to get how's going to get the seat i want to say some let let the notcho answer pen's question and then you can gohd
thank you you got advance
that show answer pan's question
i don't know what it was there was lot so the question was what terms and stuff are they forcing on us like i don't see any of these terms i think
like what are youus wants you ukraine what do you mean that's why they're i me china
wait hold on can i just ask one question pan why do you think that russia is at ukraine's border
there i don't what do you think russia of ukraine i don't know but you're talking about russia and china you not is i what you're falking asking me right then what do you think russia wants from ukraine right now
not for not sure
i mean there's no nn' no
well then why the fucking i do know they there's n strategy the three people that are saying i but there's not
it's not fucking hard to figure out that what you crify what you do china they've got all these conditions and they not so i think i think they're asking what does you are not so i think pans asking what does ukraine have to do with us the usa we're a different country that's what he's i think he's asking that i get that but i'm just i'm trying to
ask them what they think russia wants out of ukraine and ukraine noo i i think i think i think they're asking you how is russia
trying to take from the u s when ukraine is not the u s
right because we have relations with ukraine we have a
we have a partnership with ukraine
and we want to help ukraine grow and develop as a country
and if ukraine doesn't want to be overtaken by russia
or at least fifty one percent of them or whatever
isn't in favor of this
we're trying to at the very least
let ukraine decide for themselves
and if ukraine is on the border being like a give us your whole fucking country
it's pretty obvious what russia want wants out of there end of the deal
i think it
honestly
it would be a lot harder to say what does the s want out of this relationship
i tell you w iing try to come here le let's see t v go ahead and then she lay in
what yeah
i think perhaps maybe this is kind of highlighting a point right for a lot of years right when the soviet union was the thing there was
the north american treaty
organization that was put together
right that ended up having nations become a part of it to basically set up missile defense systems and mill forward military bases all around russia expressly on the
whath do you call it maybe the eastern front
right so
so because that was set up now that the soviet union has obviously cracked and it's now it's now russias being led by by putin
right
they're still
all of these ford military bases are still all these missile defense systems and now russia as a nation is now looking at this problem and they say well
we have all the ship pointed at us
and i don't know anybody
to include myself
that loves having a gun pointed at them
but that's essentially what it is when it comes to nations right
there being a power in a particular place whether
it is seen as forceful or not has entirely to do with say like
things like politics
and when you get through a stage
in politics where things are seen to be a little bit more threatening or weaker
right depending on how these things are viewed
because the power is there
people are going to feel like they need to push back against it
so
if you really want to solve this problem with russian and ukraine i would say start looking at maybe disbanding the north the dispanding nato
because if you get rid of nato
there's no way for
the russia to feel threatened and then if they then continued their expansionist you know ideology
then that's where
if ukraine calls and ask for help
that we would have no problem look we don't got rid of ford military bases we would did the shit and you decide you w to step outside your baths now you're about to get the wrath of god mother fucker i got no time place for your you know or patience for your dumb shit
i con respect that
yeah ok i think that n have the what i'm going to be silly and then nzal is going to respond then goggle goad
sergei shaptala the the head of state of ukraine
couple weeks ago
simply went not to set on national on ukrainian national tv
there is no imminent invasion
right this is the head cabinet of the ukrainian government
i'd interview if i
sergei nikiforov
the
they they how do you translate that di um
the head of public affairs of the cabinet of the presidency the one that does like the press conference explaining everything
repeated what the head of state said
there is no imminent invasion coming from russia
this is coming from the ukrainian government officials all right
there's no invasion russia doesn't want anything from ukraine
doesn't most of this come down to the fact that
its there's talks about ukraine joining nato anyway all right well wait so then why is ukraine wait why is russia still on the border of ukraine
seem to be i'm asking
i'm axing red chili
right
gotcha
why is the troops at the border
right
yeah you you just we what why is there why is there american trips on mexican
just to clarify you just said that
russia wants nothing from ukraine right
mean they were they want trade deals the one blaingtic bilateral relationspread you do know that w wants nothing from ukraine
so then why are they poised at the fucking border
with them the full munitions
are me
i don't i don't like the the fukin again like
the head of the state of ukraine says they're not
it
weekn it's on our fucking radar it's on it's on the set map
d you gret you sad bad on o wait wait wait wait wait waiter so why do you think why do you think that we want biden to call fucking putin
on the phone right now
you think we just want biden to call putin because
we just want them to fuck and have a conversation about chocolate chocolate chip
me speing right don'tu
let the goaga go then pan then chelain
okay so i like don't want to dog pile a notacho that hard because like like it's k it's kind of right now it's like he's mex you can take it
i don't give a love let's go he love no noo i'm just no i'm saying because i don't the reason why i don't want to dogpile you is because your perspective is the one that most americans have right because
uh a lot of americans make the same mistake that you make and that's why we've gotten into so many
like shitty wars as you assume that the way ko shuy just tell me you letter go letter go
be quite
no because you assume that the way that the russians think about themselves isb the way americans
think about russia and that's just like not true and that's why you're so like desperately clinging to the fact that you think that you know russia' is about to launch an enement invasion
because you think they think about their history and their nation and their people the way that you think they do and it's just like it's all pure projection
nows for why i think this media story is being drummed up so much becuse i think that america is looking for a pretext
to attack russia and then we can claim it was in defense of ukraine
and it's obvious they're inching that way
they're doing that with like china too and then people like you are going to fall for it because you just have like this like
it's kind of an arrogant view of like other nations
what she said no i won't push back i won't
i won't say one hundred percent that like
yeah there's not a part of like the u s population or the the u s government
that
wants to basically make the preemptive strike against these nations
right
but
i'm also not going to like to that
you want to right because if you ask americans in two thousand and two do you want to preemptively strike iraq they would say no but if exact americans in two thousand and two do you want to stop saddam from nuking the united states they would say yes
exactly like you should be and i don't i don't really see what is the worries about aggression from like russia and these other entities because russia does not want war with the united states
russia and putin they don't want to be soviet union part to believe ra
they don't wanty are working together because they basically given up on the u s
i'm look i'm not saying that the u s is like innocent in this exchange here
i'm not saying that
the u s could have done more maybe like has as far as like working on diplomaining diplomacying makes micro a lot of things o
do you have to let me
you have the you have the s fnt just just for a minute ok
so
i i will i could agree with you i could give you i could conceive some ground to you and just say that
yeah
the s in the past could have been better
about
the way they treated these relationships with russia and china i'm not going to like say that
we've been perfect okay so yeah i can con see that ground you
but i'm just trying to point out that
as it stands today
russia and china currently are working together
ok both of them are
literally at the same time
put one pushing into basically taiwan
and the other pushing into ukraine
and both are basically testing
the new president that we have now in biden and they are waiting to see what the administration is going to do
if
if we allow russia to push into ukraine if we allow china
to push into taiwan respectively which regardless of whatever goes first
they're both going to push into
now
i think the bigger threat is probably taiwan
because they have the monopoly on likee chip manufacturing
and that's going to be a huge detriment
to like computer sales
and smartphone saies and laptop whatever everything basically that has to do with technology
in america
is going to
that is going to have an impact more so on the u s economy than is anything to do with fucking ukraine or russia and ukraine or russia is basically a like hey if we can get away with this here
we're obviously working together this is not a secret anymore
the u s government has
clear knowledge that the china
chinese government of whatch in the we
oh
basically i think i think it's like one ties to the other at this point it's like
do we need to basically push back on both to make sure that neither does anything
and it
b
or or do we just kind of like let this shit happen and then we're we're basically fucked in the end
ok what said like guys guys pam pam had a pam had the slode then i had my slode i got i got pn
yeah i feel like you're just speculating here obviously russia knows that if they invade the ukraine we're going to as c tv says
fucking unleash god on them i don't understand why you think there's moll we disagreeing with the motive but you're just continuing p and you're just saying
well they're going to do this as like as it's a fact i don't think any of us here agree with you that itsrely talking about no no argument that it' is not that's not what's going to happen argument is and again that's why i cited the ukrainian head of state
the ukrainian head of state is says on national ukrainian t
we're not worried about an invasion
right
the used there there you know what we're they're trying to keep the peace
no i
if if you w if you want to carry if you want to keep the peace ateps a war you've got to carry a big stick that's not the response that they would have to do to keep the peace
the what i want to respond is you asked me um
why is biden and putin you know why are they meeting
my view of this holtocoplic this
a lot of this would ever go with i we
america drums up the third of war based but every time they do it they say they're going in defensively
y ween
when vietnam started it was based on the gulf of tonkin which later we knew wass a completely f fg operation
ok
weo we the were ukraine there they're claiming that the ukrain that russians are coming in and that's not the case that's not what's happening
right it's it's speculated it's it's the american media was just fucking whipping up a frenzy
something that isn't there it's all smoke there's a fire
yeah and i i mean to add on to that like
i mean why don't we just wait to see we've seen that us is a
allegations of malicious motives for other countries has been false and past why not wait till we actually see those malicious motives demonstrated like if russia does invade ukraine yet like that why can't we just wait
for that has ok i mean re sovery uch in the past
i
if we were talking about middle easin countries
if we were talking about european countries
i'm all in with you pan ok one hundred percent are your banc we're talking about you russia and china specifically
two of our
those are our only competitors as the us
which
no we have to be with you
what does competitor mean because historically speaking right
the if ok if there's any if there's anybody that's going to overtake us currently our economic position
who do whight it's america have to be on top with the china we i mean a i at to the ground right because we're the leaders of democracy what do you mean why do we have to because was like this hold on for a second right
you go back to the civil war where the russians helped us fight against the british
you go way back to then to the french now you like words of adams had instituted a curriculum where you know students had to learn russian
it is only after world war twi after roosevelt is dead
they have people like churchill instigating that oh russia icuse me that the soviet union and america are the two greatest superpowers and now they're going
fight it out that is something that was artificially
created to put two countries
in conflict rather than working
together there's no reason why we need to be enemies with any
country at all and then lastly i would just say you're so worried about russia invading ukraine
well america's already been in ukraine as i made this point already your government has already instituted a coup in ukraine
ok
the president that's there now is our guy
ok so and whatre thesults of that we already contrain your what was a proof of that theres a call nre to move i said what i said what are the results of that like what are the negative impacts of that
you care so much aboutir it's not real it's phony yet you think this you think this overall negative like do you think yes and nive impact yes if you look at the you it has got to shit
you think you think it's overall a negative impact on the area on the on your grain go go next tations
in that area le let goda go
so like the thing i was going to say like when you were responding to me is that you said a lot of stuff
but like i think you're missing the forest for the trees that you don't have to start talking about like chips and like speculating on what kinds of natural resources you're after you said so yourself in the past america fucked up so like my question to you is
like
do you not see like a clear like linear relationship between the foreign policy of someone like bush to someone like obama to someone like bd and i guess trump was kind of an anomaly but i don't i was not even if you wting th like yeah obviously it's changed like essentially what has changed i don't think anything has changed w were we all you don't think anything changed from bush to obama to essentially what has you politically strong all ofm
to bide again in our foreign potic why do you trust the u s now and you didn't trust them twenty years ago like what i don't even know wait
because russia' is bad that's why
so i think i mean honestly han is almost on the head a little bit but
i look
to some degree there are certain places russia and china that we do desrot hardy and this is not a this is not even up for questions i d like i don't understand how whether being bush in office or whether being biden office i think these are some of the things that i could probably agree with
being someone from the right being a republican like i don't something that would have a problem with
i
i hate warhim ok just to be clear just to be clear just to be crystal fucking clear i hate warhawks
i don't want people out here just looking for the next fucking reason to invade the next fucking country and go to war and setp their own fucking government inside a country i hate that shit
but if it when it when it comes to russia and it w comes to china those are the only two countries actually was a ill jo
just real quick those are the only two countries that i believe pose
a significant threat to the u s and to the u s to the u s economy and to the u s democracy
and
if we are going to have any kind of like
uh
sympathy or unionization a criy minutes remaining against a certain country that
then i'm ok with with those two being like the enemy so to speak
not why not saudi arabia why saudi arabia whath is abt the enemy kill your namebt the ok if you want my real fucking like here righty take like
i'm going to be like yeah fuck everybody in the middle east
fuck the u the e u and i'm going to say invade fuck in a mexico
get the cartel the fuck out of there let's going to south america 's bil no no no no no no no no no no the
north american union together like if you want my super super fucking like youj take yes
more hak you are the yout beleeve what propaganda about how like is this evil enemy n know russi made ays like fucking us right like they have the same motivations we do they want to fuck
and prosper just like we do they're not going to start all of this worship because you know that if they do and you don't have to you're trusting about will be you're making distinction between citizens and the government ok the citizens of go to government don't have this
it doesn't matter whether you were not
where you're talking about
sounds more like a citizen ideology than it does a governmental ideology
that is not the same ideologys the government and if it was because if it was
we wouldn't have a fucking issue right now we wouldn't have five minutes remaining natural odd in your personal interest we wouldn't have
a bipartisan call
for biden to be calling and i on the foot of president putin
if why do you alie with the democrats it is a bing that benefits you the least you would gain nothing from this war it would be bad for you
why do you think that why do you think that democrats and republicans alike
why because the democrats in the repubicaans i dot f work for you and and if you look in this finance jlly in agreement with
well we get a read go ma s to getybdy a ixic we don't think a we sitywhere noy please we don't speak dad mother fucking you know i we don't need ith round here ok let me look fact matter is hold on hold on fact the matter is we speak english round i hear some
right
you hear that from the start english
english you want to get excited you want to get sited i want to hear your passion but i want to hear it in the language i understand
ighty i
you know you' be uitt but i appreciate you you've been you're a lot more sillan not it is very frustrating frustrating
to have to hear one of my brothers
come on with this man got him
as i'm sreous he
as the reality look oh yeah you may you may be a little bit disappointed in
in notcho right but this is where you got to you got to resolve this right
so you're still down chilly
right
south south america right
still develpant right he wants to be he further along ands on the toph we are we are going to wrap this round up
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s what i speak like so many so many a so many different dialects of english that you could definitely count them as foreign languages to speak what your favorite you know actually like n know not even ahoud answer but a question what's your favorite american act i was a lit oh sorry this st just it's not just which one
so it's not just accident it's also dialect right because some people may say a thing and it mean this thing in sorre s but you say the exact same thing in another place and next thing you know you got a gun pointed at you ok so what ofth be you know you got like some mam you go southern lake city like you know i'm originally from the mount m originally from the mountas in north carolina i joined the navy theyem spent most of my career
between kingspag georgia and norfolk virginia and now i currently reside in central florida you see you were you devoid forda some time in talhasse i've been out there to well youusd were you deploid yes i did seven patrols on a how class separate i
for the nine years that i served by have two years of my life blok completely underwater am that's a long time breathing an artificial environment ight you gt i've got more time at test steps read piping tabs and
and actually doing things in
all right so it's between charmhole and problematic pan jelay and vote who you want to kick out
oh shit i won let's go rama man i'm sorry but ah
roll every got to go every time are you yeahyah come come with a more serious i i think you lesten
you all know that i could actually win that's why you vote me out early because that's all that happens kill joe sorry i don't know a whole baunch ofp crainy and fucking politics my bad
yeah well wake up short ofo ill you really learn a lot this past hour i'm not king betrayal i appreciate betrayal
i charmle any last word shot yourself out
john hold o
all right
now we're going to be moving to the next s all right jelaan
noty
that is the s empire unconstitutional
what do you mean by you fight
bad question for me
what do you what do you mean by u s empire
you know the s is foreign interventions and
ah world police function all that kind of stuff
i don't know oter the constitution but it violates the spirit
yeah it's definitely a moral
if that's what you what i i coul tell i could tell this hottake i
i think the fun folers would be very disappointed i think they'll be pretty excited to see how far america went but in as far as the foreig policy i don't think they'd like it
yeah so the fact of the matter is nony all know what the fuck you're talking about let me introduceor powers act which actually gave the executive more power right when it comes to how the military was going to be used abroad right so this is specifically where
war powers act unconstitutional never should have been put into place because in fact if the united states military was going to be involved in any foreign conflict
there needs to be a vote
by the congress in both the house of representatives and the senates for the united states to killionnaire short of that everything else is in fact foundational which is why i say that hey that yaly tell them of the fucking three lawyer organization has been fucking up shit for a long fucking time
need to be fucking gone away with so we're powers act you all got homework welcome to the shiwkid actually to say but s he d these actually one hundred percent right here i mean when you think about it most of the american empire has been done by the executive branch not by the legislative branch if we take
look at the the last wars we declared
like it's not even the case point executor the branch wait hold on the executive branch only gained a lot of power in the past like
maybe
thirty years or so like
the executive branch has had little to no effect to some degree like
the executive branch has had a lot of power
as far as like
it saying we're going to create these mandates
we're going to say this thing
but it doesn't
doesn't mean that the rest of thepect
who brought us agree year i was a executive i was a with legislative branch
i have a question like because last time i checked we didn't actually declare war with vietmam
that exactly
as far as that right and way the retaliation i'm not in agreementce with with vietnam but
i'm pretty sure that was a retaliation yeah so specifically because i feel like the i'm trying to keep the education level up so
war powers act was passed in one nine hundred seventy three right
johnson killed r president the puts in vietnam it was through you a use an exercise of executive power
right that was allowed and then they fermented by law because as it was happening they were like oh can we actually do a thing
right and then like after the fact they're like oh well let's make sure we get the the justification for it in place
so
the real fact of the matter is that there has been a lot of ofuscation of the congress's responsibility as laid out in the federal constitution
to the executive branch and that's not the way the executive branch is supposed to operate
is supposed to operate with the congress voting on things to happen
this is where the use of the congress has been completely fucking mskew to to where all it in of sit and do it is bickered and fucking argue and over how much money it's going to try to fuck and spind as it also continues to raise the fucking det ceiling ensuring the downfall of the fucking nation
right
so
the whole government right is kind of fucking broken from the way it was originally intended to fuck and be and until we actually start taking real fucking you know looks at it
ah
this shit when it fucking collapses becaus is going to be hilarious because there's going to be so many people in the cities that are just absolutely flabbergast this thing came to fruition and they're going to end up
in crosshairs as they attempt to invade rural communities and in attempts to still their feod in a video game in ofo come on of course in a video game and anyway anyway i would shut up
so this also includes by the way by the u s empire i also mean
the central intelligence agency
and the various other three letter agencies
that were added after world war two so coodd you know cour i mean it's like all this made a le
i think let not to go let not to go
so i would just say that i think those other agencies need to be held to the same accountability that
probably local citizens are help to
we just saw a case recently
where buzz feed thank god fucking finally did some real fucking journalism for once in their fucking lives
andh they called out the cia for
um having
involvement in inh the the kind of like uh
sex
i don't want to like
shit on anybody's chut on anybody's chat channel here
uh but
under age
sexual conduct
we'll save it that way
starts of the pe word but a lot of
cia agents
were accused and are being prosecuted of that
but there no you be es generho
what
a' on my voices channel or
i don't know anybody's pot i know you tube it's fucking not you're not allowed to say the pe word oh ying to stay away from that so
ah
but
basically
that
the cia agents were
have been uh
accused of these things
and i think there's plenty of evidence support that these things were going on
but instead of this being
prosecuted in the federal court
or in the public court
these are being
done behind closed doors
which just gives less and less
confidence in the system
as far as it goes with the letter system or whatever the fung
so
can i can i go and i can i s can i go
i would just say
not only is it unconstitutional but
h last year i was helping out the uh
this guy named william benney he's a former n
uh uh agent
became a whistleblower edward snowden basically looked up to him
it's because of him and snowden that we know that they spy on us
and when i was helping him do his ama is read a ama
someone asked him hey isn't it the case that because the n s a spies on literally everyone
they would have epstein's logs of everything
why don't they prosecute us
and so he said well the question to ask is is the are the intelligence agencies involved
with
human
you know
trading i'll put it that way
and so i thought about it more and i read more into it and
and this goes way back but i would just say this
i wouldn't say the human training
is the intelligence
i say the intelligence
involves the human trading i think that the human trading
is part of something bigger
going on
it's a hounny pot of verion it like it's a classic
p so right so so
that only gives you a glimpse of their power
it not their power but of
how evil
these people are and what they're actually willing to do so
not only do they be need to be audited
they need to be disbanded
because they were created to do stuff like this
it's not weipsies some people went wrong
this is their intention
so yes the cia and the f b i and the homeland security
it's all meant
to be
evil disruptive cool plotting
you know child hating
people trading
drug trading
it is
it is meant
to be that
it didn't become that it is that
i feel like you're going a bt too far i said i agree with you completely right but don't you think that there's some leg trail that we might have keep secrets from the american people like o yeh but nothing on of our secrets could be notohing that bes it was is incorrect does every state need ad secret police or secret yeah but everything i yous to said is true
we but it do isn't matter what
to some guys real matter what point it doesn't matter what secrets there home right if they commit a tuking crime they tray a rime right
yeah but you can't hold them into account for that because they got like this n accurs
what how do you hold a secret agencies if iy you need a whistleblower thats what i mean they're supposed to be but i mean i think you action we know that they're not actually accountable to the law because they can just i are there let's get away with ity i ca agree
i can agree
many dip shits on the right the would probably say the same fucking thing the you just did pan
but
that's the problem
right
like having people be like oh yeah but
they're part of the cia right
they have saying that it's ok have say and let me prosecuted outside of court they can't be prosecuted
they can't give up source material they can't give up source data
like what
no not' saying it's ok we're just saying this's not goingason to no nato just let me see this one fucket thing i'll be done with this
if
if they can't be held to
to the law to the standard of law right if the cia agents in the top secret wiever that have this clearance
can't be held
to account for law then what the fuck is law worth not youo we're not saying that this is good
we're not saying that we wanted to be this way right we're saying that they we really apologetic for
without being apologetic we're just no we'red you actually hold them to is gality typically pa i'm not trying to be cia positive here i don't support this w
no well okay i apologize if it sounded like that but what i'm saying is
how do you logistically actually hold them to account when they
don't have to reveal you can prosecute them in the court w prosebute them if you don't know i they violting a law right because they caclude he was
the way that the ca is built it comes to s like sison right ne
the only reason we knew about that show is because he whistled blew and leaked it like normally if you but this cia ciog
the say from the foundation to work like like like a mafia
right their secrets
that the all that she gets redacted so you can't go and then audit them
and i go to the record to be like oh well you committed a crime this day thiss on the log the log has been destroyed
ok that's why we say the cia needs to be splinter into a million fucking placece new agencyt fillan i'm sorry i i love you bro
because you're you want to let gaza go but
but that is just the case
let goga go ive talk so much ok sorry go
okay so you guys are missing the point the question isn't like are these bad
it's like ar is it constitutional and the only person that actually gave a fucking relevant answer so far is uh
critical thinking veteran
because he actually understands
like the constitution
and i would just say that i think it is constitutional just because the constitution is an outdated document clearly like they like all this fucking time
w to generate less corruption and find all these loopholes
and if it wasn't as
like a clear cut case that these agencies violate the constitution then it would be simple to get rid of them but i think we just need an updated
institution honestly
because he right i want to let se response supreme court is like constitutional right
there not the constitutional fulx 'mes learning
here but my point is that the supreme court is some kind of political which is a reason they haven't
you know ruled on this audiatly le let cross
let the c d respond because it's
she was sorry address iningaporeect city
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yeah i don't necessarily disagree with you i think that an article five convention of the states is specifically what needs to call in order to rein in the federal government's power
you essentially reset
our government to its original standing with the inclusion of slavery being abolished from the start
right i think it's
with regard to our constitution originally framed
there's very few things that i feel like would need to be added
from that
so
yeah
the federal government has grown way too large
for what its original scope was intended to be such as like say building and maintaining a navy
building post roads
you know things that work to bring
the states together
right rather than cost some the division which it seems like social security and some of these other social welfare programs at the federal level do exactly
right
so we need to be focused in on bringing people together instead of to
creating divides
and i would just say that you know in the preamble
right
we have
to promote the general welfare
those words were written by gouvernor morris
and he was by the way anti slavery
as was alexander hamilton
and if they had gotten their way you know slavery would have been outlawed
but
the idea of promoting the general welfare and when you actually read the constitution it's not necessarily a set of
you know hard set thish is the law and these are the rules i would you know
the gatetick we're going to do that for the next topic but we have to keep it on the u s empire
ok fine i would just say that we'll do it is that we'll do the next topic
so not so
ill have to ask you
what do you say to cvs arguments that overall
the us empire and the three letter agencies
defy the spirit of the constitution
so his argument is that the three letter agencies defied
a the three letter agencies i would
say i would agree with that yet some of them do defy
like their very existitt
i don't know if there
i wouldn't say that there
existence defies a constitution i think that what they become
definitely defies the constitution
and what about the u s empire
s empire as a whole honestly as much as i i hate the idea of any kind of empires of any kind of monarchy
m
to some degree i'm definitely it a civic nationalist so i
i think that america has
been doing it
it the correct way and is doing it the correct way currently
um
is it perfect
no
ah can it be improved upon
absolutely
but what about the question of whether it's constitutional
is it constitutional
a
i mean it
honestly depends on the situation it depends on what
what exactly talking about and what the situation is
generally i think
i think uh
it has been
up until more recently obviously there's been a lot of warhwks
and there's been a lot of like wars that
we shouldn't have fought
that that we ended up fighting anyways that i'm not necessarily for
i
so see to me what do you have to say before every war we've mentioned i
or pen or c t v either either of you could take this up but
what you have to say to what he said that so far it's been mostly constitutional
i would i would sttally disagree
i mean i think to a point he might have a point right because the cia the f b i are executive agencies the executive does have the power but it's just that the executive hasn't been really
exercising control of these agencies like he's supposed to so i think the the go around i you control over them
they have to i i mean to think i wt exercise that control right like obviously the executive you're not haveing like the people that wrote the constitution couldn't have even imagined like the world we live and like ok sure but the don't really why they w r let's see t v good
yeah i don't see why they wouldn't have been able to to imagine the world that we have now i mean these these are guys that were very well learned
they were familiar with leonardo da vinci's work and
and other people great minds of the time
right
like
and specifically i mentioned leonardo because he was the first you know to write down blueprints and sketches for what would become
ride the first hang gliders or airplanes
right and the our phone and twitter and hold on hold on because now you're talking about is technology developed in order to communicate over distance and then specifically we can go to say the ravens
right
uh as far as them understanding the the or like the uh
the fuck and horse riders whatre they fucking called
the pony express right
the pony express right so it's not like so all it just comes down to is a development of technology
whatever the ships of the bay
right
we're capable of trains you know
a going across fucking oceans
so to like somehow put the founders into some kind of box that they wouldn't have been sitting there going man i wish that i had the capability to be able to send a message from new york to boston so that i could better communicate troop movements instead of having to lug my ass through the winter fucking snow to get a fucking message to valley forge yeah i think specifically they'd be able to imagine a f g my ass through the winter i would not imagine privaty law whenever p
iously laws and thrying to exactly on the internationnthing like a video thusand e according to thousan and one internet exactly what do you think the fourth amendment does your argument earlier for the sate we youre trying to ovioate which then i pointed was the thirteenth and that's why your argument fll apart then with me
off for the star
privacy is in fact right enshrined through a few different amendments as you stated but it won't use that justification for another argument
then why hasn't it been enough to stop all the mass fpining
it hasn't been enough because the american people have become complacent with allowing big government to put bad policy into place
they re allowing them to put in you know to have these legal organizations put together bills where they have am rewritten ahead of time where it's like one fiveteen hundred fuckt pages in the and the congressmen don't have time to fuck and read it and then they just pass it and then we're all left here sitting with the aftermath of the fucking bullshit
patriot act is a great fucking example that they definitely exploited the fears that the american people already had on top of things to put this law into place to justify
them looking inward for domestic terrorism
that's that so like holistically
for it least the last fifty years it's been the government
exploiting people's fears or even p implanting people's fears into their fucking minds because of government force and if you go back even further you'll find out that it all comes back down to fucking money
with the passing of the federal reserve banking act
but the whole point is that the constitution should be enough to protect people from being exploited like was going to ca hold on beingd on
hold on it can be
if the people
elect statesman
it actually give a fuck
about trying to make sure that the framework of government that you have in place is the framework that continues moving forward as soon as you elect a politician that will tell you well i'll do this thing for you as soon as you get into office and i'll prain a pretty fucky picture and tie a nice little bow around it that's when you're going to get fucked
a political system that allows the latdter is a failed is a failed political system
i says i possible to have a system that like completely and permanently goes against a majority right like obviously the our constitution well not obviously i think our constitution is good right but obviously in order to enact it we do need to have some amount of public support so that people agree with going along with it because it's just a document it can be ignored if we don't have the public
behind us to enforce the rules that what aret and have blm in the ideals presumptively
so arely no matter how good your ideal are i clear it's not going to been of adequate it's not going to because we're don't agree with it right like our comes down the wa wining it's a piece of paper if the public doesn't agree with the ideals in the constitution it doesn't like
vote to enforce it like if they vote in representatives you don't give a fuck about it
like obviously it's not going to stand but that's not the fault of the document like you can't force the public to vote for things that they
you know don't like right
i'm not assuming voting is an effective way to express your political i will anyway
give you you know you need a laundry list of document p x your rights to vote for those things in a in the first place like if there was a better place to be doing this if there was a better place to be to be democrat
democrat gily fuckin operation or whatever the fuck you want to call it
then you would be there you wouldn't be in america you would be arguing for american politics
you wouldn't be arguing against american politics if there was a better place to fuck and do it
to be the fucking so here i mean i think that goggess point does have like some bite to it right like obviously for not phoning it theerion there's there's some problems with the constitution it can't be this infallible document if we
like
are following it right but look it's really normal to update your constitution china updates
constitution frequently
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who spoke after i said it up
me i did
i would just ask
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gota like i i just don't
get it are you upse
are you saying that because the constitution says
we can't
be an imperialist nation
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is socialism
on
americ
right
yes
no
socialism is on american because you had takes freedoms away from other people not to give them to
to give them to those who are less fortunate
i'm not i'm not against helping those who are less fortunate i'm not i'm not against providing social safety nets
but if we're talking about pure socialism we're talking hell joy leninist like marxist communism
then that means we're going to be taking away
resources from those who are more fortunate and giving them to those who are less fortunate
they
the way socialism is built in each differ country is always particular to its history america's a very entrepreneurial country
i very much doubt that
if a socie wasn't givee to america you would see
that entrepreneur spirit stifled i think you would see it supported i think that the state would mamuch hand in hand with small business owners
to help theim
to build up
and and and and lift them up so that they could be
you are very well off
i don't think that it's in the american spirit for somebody like jeff basil's
to accumulate that that amount of wealth
and create all the all the contricts all the problems that heals of society
rightw you sound like the average writer to me
that is righty way i with hard marks lok i'm fine i'm fine with like regulating large businesses i'm fine with regulate in't want to regulate i want to jo
that
you want to destroy them i want to n n sorry that was e a dramatic
maybe we differ there but generally yeah i'm fine with regulating those larger businesses
a and also subsidizing small business
n we agree
but who regulates those large this is the s inter so americank large businesses are being regulated
by the revolving door of lobbyist
and politicians and hand in hand with those businesses that is true which is why the american people should have never allowed the lobbyists or money to enter politics and that they would have done so
right we wouldn't see the nationalization of corporations that we've seen
if the if each corporation would have been required to go state to state if they needed certain things changed fm the north for their business
to come to prosper we would have seen a much slower growth
over time but the fact the matter is is it greed
was allowed to enter politics and because of that
we end up with the shit storm of nationalized corporations and now internationalized corporations that we have
it' is now creating a much bigger problem on the world stage because
the united states did not keep control of its own fucking government
i mean respectfully don't you think the stadright thing is kind of a coke
like
o there are some donates that are just as big in population as like
h like bigger than other countries you know yeah i don't think it's a cope at all i think like what's so what's so unique about the size of
the population in the government that means it's goninga be totally radically different if it's given the exact same kind of power
endeavur
gans the federal govern
it's a fair question so
so
so imagine this
corporation starts in one state right we're gonna use florida because i'm down here in florida
right
so corporations are not an orange company in florida
sure it's oranges
so we've got orange company here
yeah it's orange company right a sunshine state we grow oranges shut the fuck up notcho
so we got this corporation to get it start down here in florida
right and there are certain laws that you know
regulate the growing and selling of oranges in florida right which is something that you you' probably end up having that maybe they don't want certain person pesticides to be used on them or whatever the fucking rule is right but by the tenth amendment that law can be made at the state level so
the corporation right trying to nationalize itself goes ho how can we bypass this thing in order to get to a bigger
federal
fuck and law
right oh and by the way we can use the fourteenth amendment that was put into place after the civil war
right
to be able to justify
the nationalization of corporations
and that's essentially what happens every time i enter into one of these arguments i have to try to figure out on which side of the civil war
that somebody's perspective is it's either the pre civil war
where they're talking about the original framing of the federal constitution or it's post civil war where they're specifically mentioning the fourteenth amendment
and then justifications for the federal government to be in charge of these things such as like
what they call positive rights
but the fact of the matter is there is
the tons of lobbyists at the state level as well like it's a big problem in california like every time we try to
right so so not only is it about and
right so so not only is
being kitk to the state insolves two things one
is it gets you the most
closest to the individuals take on how the thing should be operating because the borders are are defined by the state itself
right and then two it also controls the size of corporations
allowing the continuation of small business and fir mission
of small businesses to be able to rise because it's being controlled at the state level
allowing it
to go national
right and then pushing it international which is what has what
which is what has happened is where we entered the fucking problem
well then why stop a sta right if it's about as getting close to the individual as possible why shouldn't it be about right
well
in the constitution these things always end up breaking down
depending on what the issue is and the scope of government right
this is why the federal government kicks everything if it's not specifically mentioned in the constitution by the tenth amendment back to the state
or to the people
which then allows for the state
itself to be able to make a law
right to govern a certain thing
so if the state itself decides now we don't need a law for that then there's no law for it right whatever it is
and then
if there is a law then the people of that state that's the law of that land
and in another state they may be doing something completely different
so this is where like you get the arguments with say like the drug war where they're like oh well they're allowed marijuana production on this side of the border but on this side of the border they're not
right and then the people that are in the pro marijuana state are like well we don't give a fuck fuck off right we want to smoke our weed and in the people that are over there beingpruded and and uneducated fucking people of the planet right because marijuana is just a plant
right if fucking grows you dry it you smoke it is fucking awesome
right unless you're
unless you're under age if you're under age
you better do with the fuck your parents tell me to you a little prick
okay i mean so so so that's where like those people over there that are beingpruded
right
they just have to suck it up
and they have to watch their own fucking borders because that's the law that they chose to put on the books
having no law is the fuckin default for this fuckin nation it's not
tyrannical controls the default here freedoms the fucking default i there's no fuck for it that is fucking aloud
what if a town in that neighboring state that has no weed wants to legalize weed
but what's so iractical about the state that makes it well depends on the state of kicking the can around here you know a little
but ultimately the cans going to have to get kicked and land somewhere
right now in is land at the national level
it lands at the stallre no noing
but why it lands at the that wait but if it lands at the national level
and everybody says no fuck that
because king crrop
in crop cotton
or so we say
is the king crop at the time
is not better than hemp
and we can't fucking allow people to grow hemp and allow people to grow marijuana
and then that's where we're at that's why we're in the situation that we're in now
before this cause of the national influx
but i would just
you know
i see i never get
the arguments about corporations
and we because you have a country a a as a whole that has a homelessness problem a poverty problem
you have a lack of infrastructure problem
right and so the question was is socialism an american well by definition
yes because it's it's just not
deto it's it hasn't originated wrong
no true
no wrong
those are wrong
no he's wrog america is going wrong because mother fucking wrong why the reason why socialism is a part of the american fabric has little to do with the government structure has everything to do with the private structure that was inherently
understood by the founders that would be their charity
right these organizations thse wait but you that'ssm bi ok wll i realize you're like you're all coming at me right but the fact of the matter is it doesn't change right socialism advocates for workers rights that starts at the individual
right
any of the programs that s you would want in to place for being able to take care of homelessness and these things these things need to be done at the local level not at the national level anyway right why soor socialism bey a part of the american fabric
it is in fact a part of the american fabric because we do want to take care of one another
right oka i s fancy to be just not through
just not through the top down we wrt to be all through the bottom up
but exactly ok i'm with you i'm f there's nothing magical about a charit the fact that it's a nonprofit organization that makes it suddenly like accountable to the public or moral or effective like it has nothingre to do i you know you don't care about accountability you don't care about efficacy you don't care about exactly what i think the problem is you think we go hold on hold on slow down do you think that the government
youly one that gets to hold people accountable i would argue that the fucking person this spins the jail
a the person this spends their fucking dollar right or chooses not to spend a dollar is holding the corporation accountable for the dumb shit that they fucking do
n
and how's that worked out look at you country iight now your countryes a shambles
asientvery go examly what do you meant the of the fucking world this country o averty ridden in this struk in this country
are those are still the one percent
of the world population
that thats that's nothing in the matter
our poor our homeless in this country
have access to clean i saur homeless bak in americas that my whole time in my access to clean
fresh
no i know
like what are you talking about
aker do not have to access to water the do not havecity have soup dges on every fucking corner we have is that a dignified light
in every fook now look i'm not saying it's a bat
no no no n no wait wait wa wait hold on because this is this is some shit that fuckin happens all the fucking time with lefties and fucking riighties like
this is a common misconception i'm not saying that we shouldn't k continue
to strive for improvement in our
lonest
like denominator right like in the worst
situation you cauln be an american
we should we should always be striving to improve that position right
but
that doesn't mean that we can't
ah acknowledge
the fact that
our lowest denominator in america
is still the one percent inre you got atten we have attend when i said you countries and shambles i'm a something completely different
you could use a shambles because it's run by a financial class
but you have absolutely no way to keep acountable
right you not have you how county you can say all these buzzwords but it not of course when you compare it ok do you want to live in america or do you do want to youre the know i lived there and i left the thk here ma i move here for now
a little chili
bullshit
i'm saying like bullshit you want of list that time is s man no no no no no but you know what i'm saying
you there's no bullshit that you want to stally is on likemt in twenty one here i don't know what what hemisphere
right i know you're in the southern but right you know
east and west right it's dark on eurer side of the planet right now you don't think the earth is flat do you
wait is that well like i mean i mean you want me show i go an idea ten years of my life
that just mak sure you a low standard you know what im saying
two men
i left keep i want to make my country better
beap it on topic the whole story
we'll talk later
ok i can i just say that i think i'm going to make know but better i'm all we'll talk later we'll talk belatter so so gave it
when i say socialism also talking about all of the kind of
up down things
like infrastruct all that you know this is what americans think of socialism
so do you think it's un american or american what do you think is more american the bottom upway or the top down way
first of all it's a top down way because that's the american system see people have forgotten
what this ng well thisre' t melet mesolutely you're wrong and i can explain to you come on let us bg le america ation of the country has always been a top down approach
ok alexander hamilton prove this lincoln prove this and roosevelt prove this it's in the preamble of our constitution
ok you know when roosevelt was president
you know how he got this out of the great depression
by instituting all these infrastructure projects from the top of down if you left the states in the confederacy in the country nothing would get done
you wouldn't have the projects you have now the country you live in now the roads you have now the transportation that you have now albeit is shit and collapsing
is because of a top down approach
there is no you know why there's no infrastructure done anymore especially here in new york city because local government
fucks it up all the time
there you go president see if you have the press and w had alders on straight and knew how to use the presidential powers correctly
you could fix the country within one term
ok i'm talkingh
hes
you could do nuclear power reactors everywhere you could have a c c c program where you teach the young s
the beauty of our system
binkt of you can't just come into our system you can't just come into our system and fucking revamp everything and fucking bg pt everything and do everything from the top down because i do it all of n way si there and you couldn't do anythingf
hold on here's the fact of the matter right what you're playing about right and you're in the bronx right so like i get that i ninety five coming across the g w on your way to connecticut is such a sh fucking road right there is no doubt about it but specifically you have an argument there because the interstate is in fact a federal road in the federal government should be maintaining that however with the development in new york city right you what you don't have is a good cooperation between
your local leadership right and the federal government with regard to addressing this issue i know i made a lot of trips over the g do whenever i was running up there right because i had to make my way through there down the fuck in the
oh what's id to ninety five that fucker bridge before i got on the four ninety five to head out to the fucking long island to deliver some cars right so i' intimately familiar with your fucking road system out there right but i ninety five just one small part of the roadway system that runs around there
and what you're talking about is you want the federal road fixed because your local legislatures are the problem when it comes to communicating these things to the federal government to be able to get anything done
but
the other thing that you have to remember at the same time is that new york city is very very fucking busy so when it comes to actually addressing that issue you're talking about how to reroute that amount of traffic every fucking day which is why it came
that's why they can't it's not easily what you're hoic to go to go up all the way around you have to go up all the way around the fucking yonkers and then come back down by way of the what's that fucking bridge up there you've got to go all the way up there to be able to bypass the fucking bronx and not come across a g before you make your way into there there's not an easy way to reroute that traffic youeed build more cities
oh my jesus tuit that not hap oh jes can you can't you can't just say build some new shit and that' supposed solve the problem there's no were to build a new shit there's only so much fucking land there's only he your resources kill you right like you can say thing but it doesn't actually fucking matter what you need to be doing it is you need to take your rest aut to your fucking low kill but you right
fucking mayor illdy right and focus on pic five that's what you needr right i'm not going know if i ran for mayor i wouldn't just be like i'm a pothole politician right
the thing is why hasn't there you don't think you would be a blod nobdy and nobody droppeding you and nobody dropping you over a kid ok
butll he's interrupting himself
i'm not a wopolitician
five minutes remaining
if i was mayor first thing i would do is i put a subway underneath the george washington bridge into jersey that way people could park their cars in jersey and take the train into the city
one
too if i was president i'd start building new cities big metropolits
because everybody congregates to this city because that's where the lat of work is right
but if you have more cities which by the way
why hasn't there been a new city built in the last fifty sixty years and cas not fucking profitable
wait wa we wait wait wait are you saying they're talking madeor cities losing money what do you mean right because it's an economy based on if you're making a profit or if the on the health
and the education and the status of your people i'm going to that matters the first point that you made matters
what to profit matters if it's matal yes know what was n know didn't you want to grow the american population
y is
where you fuck you live
hold on hold on so in suburbs in the country broke whre their land for them to live not in the p city ws are already overcrowded the suburb the sub where does the suburb
exist where is it
outside of a city and cy so that you your own fucking questions man beg you'reild more into the because people don't work in the suburbs they work in the city and that's right and you i do the hos right i i'm to throw up i'm going to throw curveball i you know we don't drive on i'm i listen i'm goingrow some
railroad
i'm gonna throw a little fucking grenade in the ring and let you all hop ittato it
but
ah
what about with covet isn't it cakind of makings work
in person in the cities kind of
i think its last
no done was not real no don on the you can't say that re wa wa wa wa you ca't say that you can't say that you can't say no i'm just the jobs that have disappeared are gone it depends on the state shake job
it depends on the state now shut up so tired i srou hod on me the all wen it god is done just get your ack see to shut up look so we gog look it was real cute a meminute ago whenever you were pandering to the chat to say some false shit to try to get some memes in there right it's real fucking cute when you do that but when you come u but you say cobed is it real for the you can see
like means means that's why i prefaced it when i said it right you want to try to go for the means simply and try to plant subliminal thought in the minds of the people and leave them wondering what the truth is that is why c t v s to step in right back to the matter is coped is going to fuck and suck
it's going to suck ll and therebys going to catch some point i hope you're ready now
if you really want to address
the infrastructure the issues that you're talking about you need to be doing so at the local level and you need to actually get people in office that are interested in trying to fix those problems instead of just trying to bitch at higher levels of government in order to fix a thing because you whatever you have a problem at the base level instead of just trying to rationalize the conversation through the cashier or through like the immediate people that you have front of you always scream careen for the fucking manager
maybe you're wrong you're literally just wrong you put i do't go level n shut up and i
you're actually just going to have what you have right now which is just like a patchwork of some cities that are run super well
in some cities that are run super shit
you can literally feel when you drive from one road over to the next that the pavement suddenly gets really shitty
so like why why youring the majoriti a countries that are doing really well right now are right leaning states and that's because i've been open tos a very fucking beginning of this what do you mean
shut up oh my god i literally wasn't done
hey sorry go ahead
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as we are moving to the next round
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oh wow okay i never saw someone give up so easily
all right
we are moving on to the next topic and this one's going to be interesting
so the topic is
caw exit
should california and other states
be a loud
to secede
from the union
yes mam
we should talk about the civil war we're going to talk about this now we don't how that this can be peaceful man it doesn't have to be as specifically based on the model of what the caw exit
campaign wants
which is a referendum for california to leave
i got to be honest
i got to be honest like i you know what
when it comes to the federal union i got to say that i was very happy to see that
that the u k was able to make breaks it without there being a fucking war
right pop off and i can honestly say
that
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especially nowadays
if there is a you know states that don't feel like that the union is actually serving their their greater purpose that they absolutely be allowed to leave the union
at the days of
you know the federal government continued its expansionist powers in order to control and dominate people
over issues that frankly shouldn't be involved in the federal government
i think that if the people vote to b to actually leave they should be allowed to
you know i see that's the problem ight that this is the exactly thing you said is exactly what spurred
you know one of the things that spreurd the civil war
i think and and when you listen to
excuse me when you read blenken's speech
speeches it's the first time he says the united states rather than these
united states because
we have to be a united front
i mean not every state is going to agree on this or that but frankly we are a union
but all you dial was just just point to a politician's rhetoric you're right you didn't actually point to some governmental policy that somehow stopped everybody from being a part of a union because the federal government is a metically laid out when it go a force of arms of the states actually maintaining their own militias so that they could be called to a higher federal purpose should defitting of the nation be warranted
all right i'll give my like really quickly like background info for the two conservatives i do know people here that support calg it and they're all just like very smug liberal types
and the conservatives in california really do not want cow exit if you support cow exit you are abandoning your fellow conservatives
hello
and even more got know what got what are you a politican trying to win them over you're fighting them
yeah what the fuck man when
this is both i don't i was giving information don't do you not care about your w hey look it's a very valid thing to be said right but the fact of the matter is is if these people in california on our side are not sure for fucks sake right
fact of the matter is here
right is if there are conservatives in california that are so expansion the tory in their ideology to think that
we need to somehow have to have the federal union that the state can't figure out what's good for itself that i don't believe that they are in fact a conservative and i think that they are one of those wishy washy people that jump on the sides of issues when it's most politically advantageous
know like but you like on an individual level as a person if you just don't want california absolutely at all to be in the union you're leaving a lot of people in the red districts of california very sad
right now wa w way way wait but there's there's more there's more than ample opportunity for those individuals to be able to leave the confines of california
right and there's there's no fucking reason for them to be sitting there bitching about it it could be like reallyd more roads to accommodate those new people and where road here are the roads that are already paved somehow inefficient for them to be able to leave the state of california because last time i went through there was just a few years ago right and remember i live over here in florida they were just fine enough to be able to have me deliver a load of car
to the san diego port i'm like if california actually were an independent nation you would see like us
huge ton of people leave and it would enormously deink us that now actually
no no no no i think it would see a lot of people leave
if california were to secede from the united states
they would be fought
yes they've been the eighth largest economy in in the in the globe
in the un in the h
earth's system whatever the fuck
but
if they were to leave the united states f they were to leave that protection of the united states of america
they will be fught
they wouldn't have the same ability to make trades with other nations
they wouldn't have the same ability to make trades with the united states of america
they would be on an island alone by themselves
like
as much as we want to say
uh that california should get the fuck out of here like
we're not going to pretend play jokes and say that like oh yeah
california be like owning the united states in trade if they left the fucking i mean we tomorrow because we make all your stood
so you know you can ust you can say that all you want
no a good point
good point gog's got a good point here right so the fact of the matter is that what i want is people actually
wanting to work together as a part of a union rather than having fear
from the government actually coming in like they did from eight hundred and sixty to eight hundred sixty five to exert tyrannical control over a people and then occupy that land for a period of time
that's what i don't want right
so
what needs to be happening is the federal government needs to start looking at this thing from a free market perspective and them actually reducing cost right cutting it a lot of the shit out of it that they shouldn't be fucking doing anyway so that it becomes like a unifying force for an area of states
right so that it can can be k used to serve a higher federal purpose in defense of the nation as a whole
right
so fact so like we've gotten away from the american principles of free market and limited governments and the government actually serving the people and then the states wanting to be a part of the union now it's almost like oh what you remember the civil war right they're not going to let you fucking leave the union so fucking easy right and then now there's that fear that gets put into people because they know that the federal government has nuclear weapons they have the latest technology and aircraft
they have latest technology in tanks and it's no longer state militias that should have been being maintained
in order to provide the industry necessary to maintain some of these industries
like tank production or plane production or etce right now it's all being controlled at the federal level which was never what the constitution intended for the military to be controlled as
as a matter of fact the only
the branch of service that has unlimited fucking reiinns when it comes to funding for congress's ability is in fact the navy
right
so
small government
in free market
is we is
that
if any state wants to leave the union they should be allowed to
well ights my honest answer my non mean answer is i don't america like california is definitely just part of the united states are very integrated into the economy get off your its o
there's a play l a whether you like hollywood or not i don't really like hollywood that much that is a part of our culture my view of like
california the same way as that with texas where we're just kind of all stuck in this together
and
regardless of people's increasingly like hostile and divisive feelings like there is
i think there is a unified like american people
we do have a shared language we do have a common understanding of our history we do have
um
for the most part similar political values
i do think there're kind of like inan american spirit
and
california i mean it's like the final frontier of the united states right it's like parklanded
and on and frankly
everything that you're saying there i can wholeheartedly agree with it's the actual reasons why california would probably remain a state right because it's like aid we really are kind of tied together you know yeah like here's the situation that we find ourselves in
there's
so like
but federal government you have got to get your shit together because being a part of this union is fucking
frustrating is fuck
right and all we have right now is
you know one forest is being completely tyrannical forcing their will onto the states and
and that was not originally what the framework of government was supposed to be it was supposed to be something else to begin with it was supposed to be a co op
right it was supposed to be people working together instead of the force being used
to shut down
conversation and so and deported gun to people said and say you will do a thing and if you don't like it get the fuck out of here like that's justit
i'm sorry but this is this is where i have to like kind of agree and disagree with both krad and gaga like
i'm all in for like yes
obviously we god god you were just arguing against with a a lot of what you just said
h
to to in response to c
i agree that we have
american values we have
a values that we that we would aspire to continue
in this country that we want to see prosper
uh and it and to the same degree like c t b
we don't want to concede
ground to leftist to some degree where we say like
oh well it's okay to
ah not push back so hard on this or not push back so hard on that like
but
there there is a culture in america that i think that i think is healthy ok
ah
and when we when it comes to like being like anti l g b t q or anti b like gay or whatever the fuck it is or like
m
that kind of shit is obviously pretty toxic
right
but when we're just being like pro american values
and pro american culture and being pro
a we're going to put me in was something like a dumbshit civic ntationalist
but
it is what it is oubject
o i'm doing both at the same time ok
i think you know se to be
but
bit
if for being like pro civic nationalists obviously mean you see to you're going to lendp in the same fucking place right
like obviously both of us want to want to see the america prosper first before every the fucking nation right
so it's viget stick do you have anything to say
yeah thank you i i would just say one
mister c t v i respect you but i have to disagree with you and this is going to tickle your fancy
ns i like to be tickled
limited government limited government and free market
is not
an american invention
one really w dit it was an american invention that's new words so explain
well because
we are not our economic system in our country was not built on the free market
i don't think i father
you have never seen an american system that was originally put in place what you have seen
it's been the federal reserve banking system controlling the currency since the one nine hundred twenty that's hijacking right
is
what hamilton put in place
with national banking and building a country based on credit
no
that
is what
that's the real american invention and the limited government that you cannot do that with limited governments
oh the second point that i would say are you meman i'm confused now are you memn or are you actually trying to spit facts because you're damn sure fucking wrong right i don't i don't know if you just like saw this this hamilton musical and then like pulled a few facts from it and then somehow thought that hamilton was like this
this fuck in
you know super base guy when it come to things but if you want to know something a little bit a little bit of something about economic policy you need you need to go to jefferson right and jefferson said that if the american people ever allowed still be a slave economy he the american people ever allow private banse to control the issue of their currency they would find themselves slaves on the very land that their forefathers conquered
i don't know if we should listen to jefferson on the slave issue
hold onipicly
i think specifically if we're going to listen to somebody with regard to the slave issue since you want to put it that way somebody that was at least involved in the trade i would at least assume to be knowledgeable of at least the ongoings of it i don't think that i would trust somebody when it comes to slavery if they had never owned a slave themselves actually some of the yeah you're right some of the slave owners were the most frequent uses of the slave anyway so to describe them to scribe because they're trying to divert attention from the
suffering of enslaved blacks to their own suffering
right so then the fact of the matter is because they ha just because action just like nata was projecting earlier his desire to invade mexico onto russia and ukraine
so because we have the understanding that they knew what the fuck they were talking ao di know what did and they hadd wy i'm i'm tind of was jefferson did wellight i'm kind of lost what what was the connection what are we what's being talked about i'm kind of lost
hamilton is based and so is itround
we what what was the thing about jefferson what did he say
we're what we're doing is we're get we're getting into money right and this is a much more nuanced conversation about money instead of the topic which is you know whether or not should be able to secede from the union but it's kind of relevant because all of the states end up involved with the monetary system so y we are talking about money we're talking about slavery which is
t that i mean you guys uncomfortable no that's the key word that you hold on that what's going on aboutver what's the topic ofb that was the keyword that go got picked up on so that she could say a thing and then attempt to look smart whenever she really just doesn't understand the the entirety of the topic
right that's all that happened there i don't think you understand the real history of right the's why i brought up a specifically youd say that it ers sy how
i must have zone how did this get ino slaverking w an empty bottle what's what's the slavery topic about
as i jefferson saing
yeat the air forer sa wick it actually what's the jefferson quote in quest y
ok so the jefferson quote was is that if the american people ever allow private institutions to control the issue of their currency they will find themselves slaves on the very land that their forefathers conquered oh ok so yes so she she picked up on the key word and then ran with that instead of addressing the modern you poly that we were pviously a little while ago you were arguing
i think it matters usic locally in a few diver situations to include like a relationship that you know
some people agree to right i this is slaver the slavery thing and it seems beside the point because
he he's basically saying he doesn't want private institutions to control the currency it and right langages the thing right because we if you pick it up on a keyword that's what it is you know it sten to jefferson
do you know who would be controlling the wealth it would be the private individuals who had all the money and all the slaves
and rather than the government
who control the national bank to print money out
and
jefferson's model relied on the economy and development of technology staying the same
rather hamilton's model of an economy was things are going to get better in terms of technology
we're only going to get better and progress more
and as a result we should build our economy around fueling that
because technological growth is what fuels an economy
and you measure an economy not by how much money you produce
but by how health your people are how educated your people are and what your infrastructure is like
that's the hamiltonyan model and that's the american model that people have forgotten
so when i say you know free market is not an american invention
because it's not
hamilton
hamilton's economic system that built the country from literally nothing
to what it is today
now it's been high jammed on pss lud
hamilton was a part of the foundly fathers hold on part of s hailton was a part of the founding fathers it specifically pushed back and and you saw the creation of the american currency in its inception then
right because they borrowed a bunch of money to be able and had another false currency
right they got used to begin to begin with
right and then in sevn hundred eighty seven when they ratify the constitution that's why they made sure to include in article one section eight of the constitution
right then
and i want to make sure i read it to you specifically i really don't like paraphrasing the constitution but to regulate commerce with foreign nations and among the several states and with indian tribes to borrow money on the credit of the united states
the congress shall the power to lay taxes and collect duties
imposts and excises to pay the debts and provide with the common defense general warfare the united states
and to coin money regulate the value thereof and of foreign coin and fix the standard of weights and measures
right this is 't shrined into the constitution because they knew that inflationary practices which is what you end up with regard to central banks and then like all of the other banks that sprout up around it right is the inflationary practices drive down the value of the currency they increase the cost not the value the cost of a fucking given item good or service
right and then the american people are the ones that end up having to pay the fucking costs which is exactly why the government was supposed to be limited to begin with
unless you do what lincoln did
you know right hold on just so we make sure we understand in the time on a history we just jumped from the seven hundred eightyes to sevn hundred ninety s right all the way from eight to the eight hundred sixty s to eight hundred sixty five go ahead
no but to understand the first thing about you know if you want to stick in in the eighteenth century
the idea is you take money out
you print money out
but then what do you do do you use it to bail out big banks like you would today no well no none of these a caing bail it soulrem seeing that right right what you're folking are doing against a stronw man who is you use it to say hey
how about we build some road
how about we built some hospitals ho about we built some school howbout we put the kin w were wre meest meann wait ho have to ask this here wait because not to ask
they they get this who who's arguing against that
you are youing w who are you arguing against here
what are we arguing about all he's saying oh my god wow we don't even know the topic thanks no no no thanks the money should go
ok
that the money should go
into and circulate into the free market right and then you just have businesses pop up
i'm saying thats the money you print out
thats the money that the government pulls out
should be used for projects that will advance the nation and the population
that's it
this the jeopardy all right all right we are going to go ahead so beral consensus like the liberal consensus is something that i'm excuse me excuse me excuse me not so when i when i kew heard my voice speak
and he decided to keep talking
i just want to like what was going on in your head
i hadn't know man i was fucking
i was being dumb ok
fireman
all right we are voting who to keep
not kick
because we're changing it and going to the next round
p
go ahead and vote who to keep not kick everybody vote who to keep
not
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ight
can i address chat now yeah awesome if you ote for ce t v i'm going to be advocating on behalf of getting a brand new panelist that has a been in here yet so that we can expand the level of conversation in the chat that's what i'm going to be advocating for if you vot s t v that's what i'm going for like i think there's only a few minut
it's left so yeah i'm going to make i'm going to goead and make my ph man yees me if i get kd there's going to be no puck and fun ok me t vs been at each other ok me and bgest have been at each other n gg i have been at it oth so regardless of who stays in here if i stay in here the's going to be a show here ok because i've been at it against
everybody thats in the panel bef that's my tak right here is that no matter who stays if i stay there's going to be some conf i' try to keep the notchos he hat to get the cheese you gotta keep the paldinal i would say not regardless of what happened
p oh going about aga all right we are done voting
i didn't get to make a pitch
and
c t v you have between gaga and nao to kick
not shows been fun but you know how to likelight a get thgh
right yeah
ok
you know i like a good threae
look at me you clok and i when you ick me ok you're right hold on lookho not sho here's a deal right are you right ino this
i'm ready trail is when you get down to story like this there can only be one alpa in the room be trail i think you know what kind of room we're in greing that i'm more the alpa th you i want to know what i'm a great can't soke
is that chat
right has made me such tray point and i'm looking at the room think i could probably have a little bit more fun
you know with what go you're saying is that it's an easy dob over these guys ok
plus it comes down to the will of the people man
come the will of people people tp mabro
all right man
well you know what good luck to brother
no hard feelings
appreciate that
hans thanks for having me on
it's
okay goodbye
anyway we are getting to a tense moment there are only two rounds remaining
and is there anybody out there that wants to jump in here right and fill in of a mysterious fifth slot the c t v said he was going to be advocating for and that's only
only of course if the con allows right but yeah yeah so here's the thing they can come but they can't compete because it's kind of unfair you know what i mean like you people have sve
hey bring sto back
yeah wasest so yeah you know pesto pesto has
i cam just
yeah that still can't join tonight
so it's classes them
so who you want to bring in c to be
what was that ask
wh do you want to bring in
whoever like w
' somebody that wants to i don't have anybody in particular in mind
oh okay okay i got you al right ya yea
it was more like
give the communists a chance but somebody else in the room because you know i like to have
three or four on one it just it ill rates me you know what i mean
yeah all right so this topic is goninga be
somewhat in there fact wheres that jackson hinkele mother fucker where is he yet
i he couldn't smooth face sweet boy fucking ass where he he couldn't make it tonight but he was surely
one in the perceivable future
but
so this topic is going to be reminiscent of the first one the first one is
is the abortion debate tearing apart the judiciary
and now the topic is going to be
should
abortion
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legal
i don't think it's about legal or no you have to don't be a fensitor you have to choose the side
no there's bull you have to you have to choose the side
so there's no level of government involved here we're talking about the world global
noto the us and the usa
okay
whether or not the procedure should be allowed in the usa do you personally think like whatever procedure you want
like let's say it was based on your city or your state wherever it has to be
do you personally think it should be legal
well here's the fact of the matter right is
there is the barrest of minimum cases where i feel like that it should be allowed incest rape et cetera and because of these reasons
i would have the procedure be allowed
right
so then i like after the allowance now we're just talking about like at the what point do we find it socially acceptable
so
what is the social socially acceptable line well for me
it tends to be about
the end of the first trimester after that unless it is medically necessary and declared so by a medical professional
there shouldn't be any abortion
because i feel like that you're getting into the realm of actual life thats the same itself outside of the mother which we do have nicku and intensive care units to be able to take care of fetuses is
and children as young as four months old
so or is four months developed rather is how i should say it
and then be brought into the world and be able to continue on from there so
i don't really
iss far as like it
like you have to allow it
for the barest of minimums
and because you have to allow it there
now we're just arguing you know where it is that you feel like life begins i think so i would agree with you on that too i think that
you know on the most extreme cases and h
yeah
but that's it that's it
so
where you leaning on thatight gga
uh i'm going to spice it up
and
um
because i want to
make things
aggressive i'm going to say if you do not have a uterus
this is not something you should have an opinion on andll opinion or
i guess some people that
do not have uterses are not men 'll joy if you have an opinion on this
and it's not your problem i view you with
hostility and suspicion
kill joy w want you in youy business i don't think you necessarily should be
ct of the matter is that you say you shouldn't be up in your business except in order for us to get to the particular problem that we find ourselves at you had to let somebody up in your business
the thing is i think you're greatly overstate
the significance of the male in the reproductive process
because the
three seconds that it takes for you to jaculate in a woman it's nothing compared to the arduous process of developing all your yeah let's let's stok you all hung up in the weeds here honey right let's just look most of the time when a woman is impregnated it's not because of the of the two pump jump that bothered getting in there right it was because of the man that grabbed a hold of him right brought him into the moments
right slowed things down
right i get brought thinking about too much it's not really about ho
it's not about sol aspect and not like what do you not think that the sexual aspect is important when it comes to conception
but why are you describing such an important issue you
i was describing it in an unsophisticated way
it's actually not crude or unsophisticated at all as a matter of fact i think
the fact of the matter is is that i'm attempting to try to
paint the picture for every question is what is it about the male psyche that
kind of travels everywhere like a we ha to like know and have an opinion on every issue that
really doesn't concern them that much and i am pro life personally but i just don't hold these kinds of conversations
so wait god you wanted to be
illegal
for women to have abortions
no
not unless there are several prerequisites meet then the current society to ban abortion is like ridiculously cruel like we have no
safety net for orphans for
our maternity care is probably the worst in the developed world
and would you have to say laws are horrific
what do you have to say to gar
who says
that abortions must be illegal
with
the only exception be
extreme
n i clarify that no that's all you di put is you're putting the cart before the horse right like the abortion is like the very very end stage of
like a lot of things go into it right it's like our sex education is
really bad in a lot of areas and areas with better sex education have lower abortion rates
five minutes to remain down to like poverty and stuff like that all these other issues that i think
should be hammered out first five minutes remain then we can
have a debate about like the ethics of
i don't know i think it's like a package thing that's why i don't anlly myself with conservative men
even though like i oppose abortion is because i don't think they come to it with the right intention
yeahy i thinks for i think for them it is about controlling women's body wait c t
is that true do you want to control women's bodies i find it very confusing whenever somebody would like
take what i said
which was in fact sexual education
right
sexual education that's what i was talking about it wasn't about trying to do anything else but that
so
if you're trying to conceive a child it's not just about being a two pump chump
right it's about building the moment it's about building the connection because when you build the connection
right and you get that
big o
right
conception is not a problem right
take it from a man of experience
so
that's were
you can't just you know lop all this thing stuff in and say oh if you don't have a heal is you like a matter well the fact of the matter is no that doesn't to how to how to unless there was consent right which you obviously gave otherwise it would be rape
right so because you gave consents then you consented to the act therefore you also consented to someone else having an opinion
about how the life goes on
otherwise
you end up in a situation where it's you get to each have your cake and eat it too simply because you are the the possessor of the uterus
right when in fact you had to make a decision to allow something else to come into it right because it's not
right whle you'reing a huge ballacy rules are not equal i say something real quick
ight
thank you for one
i would just say that the abortion problem is an economic one because if you had better econoic you have to take a side don't be ok ok fine you got to take a side
here's my side
i think it should be legal
for the reasons that c t v stated right it especially you need to have the process there
in case it endangers somebody's life
i
or if it' is an extreme circumstance where you have to pick one or theanother
so legalize it but onlyight they go what if someone
got knocked or
in then
two weeks later
four weeks later
six
i don't feel like having this baby
should they be aloed
two
a poor
that child
i think that's the problem with the culture because if you
don't understand the risk you're taking
before you get it read
no i'm not a fentator a sige
ok no no you shouldn't because you should know the risks
before you do that act you should know ok but what if they just felt like it
would
what do you mean they just felt like it
i mean
that's the thing you can't you can't fuck around with that because that's somebody
life that you're making life
right and you should know that so
if you're comin in here
you know doing the deed kill joy you know you're being irresponseill joy not the only one who's going to pay for that choice so gog what do you have to say to vega who says
that women should not be allowed
to judge
have an abortion
and that they should be put
in zerl
if they ever were to even think
of trime
it stills unfair but okay
i mean you're speaking from a point of total arrogance right you're talking about oh yeah both people should be responsible they should care about the fact they're creating life and it's like
if bef there's any
kill joy one gender that
is not interested in the sanctity of where they put their genitals it's men i mean i'm pretty sure right now if i googled like
wen arrested for sticking his penis in park bench there would be like fifty seven results that came up to
i don't know i feel like if you
because obviously pregnancy is such as
it's not
oth and ble
thing it changes your body it can change your life your finances and like
i've pointed out in our society like
pregnant women don't have it easy
thank
the penalty for getting pregnant is very harsh like we don't have maternity leave
our universities and schools aren't set up for mothers with young kids
it
it really is a society that punishes women for getting pregnant
but it is also society that increases increasingly sexualizes us at a young age
and really heavily pushes us to be sexual so there like
every thing that you're talking about is like oh yeah they should just know that they're like
creating life and it's like well that's not the reality that's like
more and more like young girls are like
dit that
well i think you're making a pretty good point here with the level of sexuality has been happening to women it pushes him to think not only them right but the reality they find themselves as far as interaction with men is that they must be sexual if they're going to have any kind of relationship
right
so i could definitely empathize with that position and it's been
something that has beented over the years
right witley set up for the benefit of men at the but slow down
slow down before you get too far down this rabbit hole because the fact of the matter is
is it
individuals must make choices based off of what they think is best for themselves
so
what i will also say the same time is that the system is very weighted towards women
as far as
a
opportunity in the workplace as far as being able to go
get things that they want in the world if they just want
to go get that and then you want to bring her pregnancy
and it's like yeah
there is in fact a
costs that must be paid for you engaging in an activity
with regard to paid leave et cetera et cetera
but that's something that if you find the right corporation ahead of time
that is willing to work with that or the such as u s millionaire right i mean i youll joy controlling women's bodies right like the language you slipped into right there it's like the cost of
like being a sexual being like you see pregnancy for a woman as a punishment you don't see it as a gift you don't see it as a beautiful thing that we can i do i do in fact but when youever you try to couple with the arguments with
say practical things like financial gain
right which is what sh did is practical it's a very physical thing and right like
your body like that's the most like intimate thing that you can go through is like right right but the fact of the matter is is it's today in the environment that we find ourselves in especially post covied did a lot more jobs
that are administrative in nature are taking to being online
so there's not really a reason why there needs to be such a restriction as far as online work is concerned with regard to administration
so no it's st bad for young mothers like there's not enough child care it's like insanely expensive like kill joy like i said no universal maternity leave kill joy
um like health care is really expensive like pediatric
there's um right so then there's no multifamily home you can have your grandparents watch so at what point
so what point do you hold the actionly they took because they like the government went in there or the corporation went in there and actually made hm pregnant it was them choosing to open their legs to somebody and to allow the seed to be implanted right
i mean
i
i'm a communist so i'm not really big on like individual like
should be punished for like actions like there's a lot of pressure in society for young women to be sexual like i said there's a lot of bad sex education
again i think if you revers that and i think if you had a society that cared about mothers and cared about women and cared about families
in't cared about supporting them through that then yeah i think we can have a conversation about
should we restrict abortion right now the people getting abortions are like desperate women poor women
a lot ofort the truth about abortion in the united states that the right and left doesn't want you to know is a lot of them are not like has described convenience abortions like they're women that want to keep their baby but they literally can't afford to
they literally don't know how to
yes and thank that's another thing likell don't talk want to talk about with each oth sion as like this some powerl empowering girl boss thing but it's not it's really deeply traumatic
ll a lot of people
yeah and i can definitely understand where you're coming from completely
but it all limately ends up coming down to the decision that the individual made and because the individual may always does't just because i yesd he does mean did not they had no open their legs individual killed joy will but you ill joy you havell mavidual fel you know open your legs to somebody you seem to be implanted period as a woman correct
i think i wait otherwise if otherwise it would be just to be clear is
and then just to be clear right if it if it was rape that's not consensual that's not what i'm addressing at all i'm addressingide the right right so consent you consented to the act and the possibility thereof right because the only way you get away is that totally youre is it pregnancy this is a totally interesuman view of pregnanty the only way that you gave me one hundred percent try to take care the only way that try to take care
of young children the only way that you dou in a ca the only way that you end up in a situation where you have a hundred percent
nable not going to get pregnants right
if he's in fact
ah
got have a secory
right if he doesn't have a sect to me there's not one hundred percent way of knowing and even then
that's why they make sure to go back and do test to make sure that he's not actually kicking out in the sperm
besides that every other birth control along the way whether it be fucking pills whether it's condoms whether it's a
mother fucking
uh suppositories to get put in you know they fucking expand itt to a phoney you know like lanes i can't remember their name right but all those things have a percentage
of allowable rates of pregnancy to happen
ok i know you make sure we got a ra this i promise so you say that and yet st work serious yeah any time you get a group of people together in any setting somell joy and some that bucking is going to lead to people getting pregnant
so all you're blabbering about like different birth control methods doesn't amount to anything because there's always going to be a whole lot of pregnancies let's just assume for
begar and goggle
that we lived in a society
in which
anyone could afford to have a child
short abortions
just because they feel like it
be aloud
no but no one would want to do them because you'd have a good you know you'd have less peop you know
um then then i think you can talk about banning them and i mean there should there still would be people who want convenience abortions like i'm willing to accept that some people are irresponsible some people are
you know
like there
people like that in the world and
i think of you
to create a life
thean that life
has a right to exist
but i don't know the ethics of doing it like right now in the society where we live in is just
it too complicated and like i said i don't trust pro life like i don't trust pro life conservatives i don't think they come from the same place that i do
on the issue s di youd
god go thinks
that you want to control women
is that true
not all women just fine what the fuck is this
yes yeah not not all women just mine but get the funk out of your psto
anyway
we are going to vote
who did it kp
not et
so mars
spam
this link in the chats
and we're moving into
then wy a round
can i say one more thing
yess nin
so one more thing right
while i'm also holding the individual the woman responsible for the opening of the legs i'm also holding the man responsible which is why i end up where i end up at right
both parties are responsible that's why that's why it's not just a one person geust to make a decision thing it's you got two people a part of it there was consent no i'm tired of you having the last word on everything the roles of reproduction are not equal and saying that is just as assinine a saying it when you open your legs allow to happen no that's not you open your legs and allowed it to happen if you d you not open your legs if you want to help me if you
the between your fk nees what real uk ha and hold the ass betwen your knees i don't know what to tell you right either you don't allow someone to jump in there or you do it if you do the net person is just as responsible as you because it involved someone elsed they're notus they're not just they not the court
ally well i have no problem responsible ion it doesn't really k you you theyre back to the rule back to the matter is you open youleys right you said hey i give me some dick you s here we go right and the next thing you know there's a kid and then you're like well i don't feel like it so the kids supposed to pay the ultimate price which is death
because the woman decided that she did w the wolere me screaming something just means that there's a lot of passion behind it because i do in fact feel like cold be unborn deserve a puckingo male not male you it's not about me ha not about me haveving authority's about me havingen im not going opinion it's about me having an
opinion right and the fact that you jumped in here to begin with all but you by means to begin with right you decided that you want to take the position of saying that men didn't have a position to speak about this because thegt you do it's a uterus wjust tractually fall from the fuckt start considering that it takes both in nord to create life but youre
ok so so roles are not equal between men and women and women ok so what's this feminist movement then why are you trying to strive to be men whenever you can't be men according to your own ideology i'm not a liberal so you're a what can s fiminis and explain and w everybody s
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this was fun thank you guys let's start again
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now it's gonna get interesting because
aga
is fighting c tv
or the belt
yes
freak it butlieveble
for the last
and final topic
here it is
where we're going to
settle it
who are
ready
are you picking it up right now
do not interrupt
the con
trying to control women right now
or
men
upressed
no way
the topic is
it's toxic
masculinity
a crisis
fin you
i would say that it absolutely is
all rightkk no i was going to say no
interesting
it's
interesting
continue
so i think that it absolutely isll becaus whatever you have men that think that it's it's fucking
you know wll joy right to show emotion to cry that's the toxic masculinity that i would be fighting back against because
men experience emotion the same as women when i feel like that the inhibition to showing emotion clearly shows a lack of emotional growth on behalf of the men that would try to put down
right expressions of emotion
so i have just received a d m from gaga who says
yeah
her position is that
men who cry are pussies
will not deserve rights
no it's true look here here i don't know about the rights part but it's definitely true right pussy is absolutely
the best fucking material out there right there is nothing else they can take a licking and keep on ticking quitet like pussy all right there's nothing i would much rather have a set of tires made out of than pussy ok because i could run them mother fuckers all fucking year decades fucking long right and they just keep fucking running right because p we are garing it's the most resilient all right
you need to rering this in
now
the question is is there a crisis of toxic masculinity
in this country
um okay so actually this is an interesting question and i
been like thinking about it for a while um
it was kind of around when the discourse about laate
or the term like toxic masculinity appeared and on surface it kind of makes sense right because we can identify like
of certain ideas about what it means to be a man that are harmful to men or harmful to women
but recently the term has been really expanded to basically kind of
mean anything bad that men do
um is like oh that's like toxic masculinity which
i don't know so that's just kind of how the discourse gets laundered but
i don't like the term and i don't use it because i don't think masculinity like
all right the better what' we think of what we think of as masculinity
i think should be something that should be either like neutral or positive with the same way with femininity
um i think things that are toxic masculinity are not masculinity i think that's h
be
being hateful
we should just call being hateful being weak
being
um
aggressive
the model of masculinity should be something positive because
we do need
men in our society like we can't have a society without men
so men should have something positive they can aspire to sov why do you think that
all men are trash
that all men
it's all toxic men
right toxic men that try to say that
emotional development is unfucking based
right it's those men right there that lack the emotional
emotional develop one
to understand other men
right and two
to understand women
which are the other half of the fucked world
right
so you gotta have empathy and you gota have logic
and if you want to become a fully developed man you have to develop not only your logical and philosophical consistency but you also have to develop your emotional and then you have to be able to switch gears depending on the type of feedback that you're getting from the person that you're talking to because there may be something that you think that you're talking logic in and then that person hears an emotional argument and then they switch to emotion and then you have to address
the emotional argument so if you really want to be the mother fuckan alfa wolf
you've got to have logic and emotion
as a part of your understanding of the world view
so toxic in
you are just btaus
yeah but i don't think being emotionally repressed is a masculine thing
and i don't think it's necessarily really connected
the masculinity
it's just
or at least i think i don't conceptualize it as a problem that might occur more often with men
but i don't even think that's true i think it just manifests the men in a different way
well i think that it's men that pretty much set the toxic men specifically known for the women that question is
who is to blame
for the me to
movement
what is the blame
um
like the movement or
just
the general incident of well mother looking mark
mark ukbg
yeah mark zuckerberg is to blame for the shityall if he had never fucking jump you know created facebook
got twitter fucking started you know not directly but indirectly
you know like if mark zuckerbird hadn't like took off social media the way that it did we wouldn't even had a hashtag me to movement right
so
so it's far as blame for the me to movement i directly at mark zuckerberg and i mean i you cold even go so far as not be the question is
who is ofing blam what is to blame for the
women coming out and
what is to blame for the shit happening in the first place
well
um
well
there you can go
no no no no by all means nontoxic masculinity over here
you're i mean you're asking like
why
are usually men
i think i ninety five percent of it
time ben like sexually assault people i mean it's not just women right like
p um
what about what about with like act what about with that one comedian guy other men what about the comedian guy who was
like louis c k yeah what about that like orked off
oh i hate him that's disgusting
yeah but why didn' i know you that
we have
um i think
i don't know i think flashing is kind of interesting because it's almost like
um
a weird
like failed evolutionary like meeting display kind of because from what i understand like
people were exhibitionists like for them the fantasy enjoy their flashing
would be like arousing their victim but it's not as experienced as distressing so
with those kinds of paraphilias like they're like cognitive distortions about like how other people think
and stuff it's the same thing with like
people who have fetishes for like
groping people in public or like who' got it
like peeping aright
iarrest him
ok so i'll address that
eight
so
the negative behaviors associated with men right are definitely
confined to
a localized group
what we have been talgked it's not so you think the majority of people are
peeping tom's
do you think there's like a more hold o hold on ha
majority population orn it's a man on n you was somebody looking in through your window gagger do you think that that there are like fifty one percent of the population is looking in through your window to see what you got i got to ad a lot of sexuality is orientateed around and i'm not saying that people should feel bad for this or that like it's their fault i think it's just kind of the way that like women are viewed in society but a lot of
of like sexuality is oriented around like degrading women
were both men and women honest
women have fantasies about being degraded
so
well i think that the i think there's definitely ciblity to what you're saying some people do get off on
you know degradating people and others off on o that ma but it's main wasntream go to front page of pornhubbits
like bas around
like nonc mostly nonconsensual scenarios right for some final tal creepy
nver the final top but the final topic has changed
should pornography be bared
oh wow wow
you know what
you know what
i'm going to take the position
that pornography should not
be banned
an't frue 'believable
that
um
wen it comes down to freedom of expression it comes down to
you know consenting adults doing what it is that they want to do it holds philosophically consistent with all the rest of my views so banning pornography isn't actually the problem what you would want to have in in a society is
for people to understand moderation of things right it's like you know what it's ok it is perfectly ok
to enjoy
right some white chocolate strawberry cream old smokey tennessee moonshine who see to be happy to be sponsored by big alcohol by
ah
and then there's something different with regard to
like
how shall we say
understanding what the ten headlines are toy get put on top right
because people put taboo headlines on things to try to
to catch attention
right but why is that like why is like incest and stuff like that mainstream in pornography like that's a
the same re bucking bizarre thing isn't it wasn't like that fifty years ago so i have to think about what kind of
things are being pushed
and it's not just necessarily people freely choosing to consume this stuff
wile in fact if they click on it they are freely in
and you know freely choosing to partake in that type of media are they not
abs
pg
i can agree like an abstract right
in abstract i don't think there's anything wrong with like two people consensually having sex and then filming it
but that's just in the abstract and that's not like the reality of what's going on like the reality of what's going on is like there's like tons of
trafficking and like
tons of abusive and like illicitly obtained material like
on mainstream pornography websites like just look at the
girls do porn lawsuits they were literally tricking women into thinking they're going to do something else flying them out to florida
and then like physically trapping them or oftentimes like assaulting them just to make pornography and that was how they ran their company like for years and years and
no one caught onto that for a long time like no one noticed that there was anything wrong that this one company just had like a fresh supply of eighteen and nineteen year old girls like iting
fucked hardcore and the never seenhim again
the industry's really rotten it's
um
like really abusive and there's no oversight in it because talking about it makes people uncomfortable
and people just want to jerk off and then go back to living their life and not have to think about where this material comes from or who's being harmed in producing it
so yeah in the abstract i don't think pornography is like
kill like you have to think about the til youst now and like how people are being per and
it's hard to talk about without being viewed as like a
frude or like getting accused of like hating sex workers or stuff like that
but it is like a real issue you know and it's just people just don't want to talk about it makes the un commfortable or i want to make it about themselves and be like oh man like i have a really bad pornography addiction and i drerk off five times a day and it's like well
you're not the main person being harmed in that
thank
you know i i can definitely understand your point of view right i i personally don't think there should be anything wrong with consenting adults participating in whatever sex work that they want and then putting whatever titles
it is what they want on their work in order to garner views right that saye do't to be able to title it whatever they want
i think it po baiting content or ok well that's ok so
i wasn't trying to go there i felt like we had established ourselves aboveing the a likep stuff forohand so i apologize
should be like a red line i don't yeah
yeah certain certain t certain section certain kinks i right okay ill be frownd on oka one specifically is incest right over a so like i would assume that because i would probably been thee ends up getting tagged
it's something to do with step mam
or something like that right some step family member right which could be considered incest but the fact of the matter is is there's no blood relationship is so is it in fact incest right so since it's not in fact incest right and it's an allusion to that right that's why there's some popularity behind it because it's like well these people obviously have a close relationship and i think it has more to do with like how is it that you keep this thing not being found
found out by others whathenever you know that when it comes down to gett into business with the with your stepson right that you have no problem getting down to business with your stepson
right so like
i look because the fact of the matter is is that older women are beautiful lovers right if it wasn't true there would be a country song
fucking fifty years ago right as to the fact
so
i can see where the appeal is i can see why it is the people would want to name their videos whatever it is that they want
right and that's why i would say yeah you can label whatever your videos are that you want because
i could go into a video with someone and i could say that they're my still are you like right kink shaming do you think as long as they're adults and consenting that
anything goes or do you think that like certain because right now in the u s we have obscenity laws that are like not really enforced but technically exist saying that certain kinds of like
de pictions are like harmful to the public
i would say specifically that when it comes to kink
so long as it's not in view of children
i'm ok with it you can go to fucking wherever you want some dudgeon seclude a place fucking out in the way from public do whatever to fuck you whatever lights your fucking fire and tickles your fucking balls fucking go for it right i don't knowar like
like
cutting people on
breaking elbows and stuff like that
well that's that's where you get into a different realm of law but specifically if there are consenting parties
and i mean actually consenting parties then consenting parties should be able to do whatever consenting parties want to do i mean that's kind of an interesting question because like for example like there as some people who get off on like having their limbs amputated like can you meaningfully consent to like such a grave bodily harm
who am i to tell someone else how it is that they should live their life
i don't feel like i need to be anybody else's daddy but for who i'm responsible for
right i go
like can you meaningfully consent to having your arm chopped off
don't you think that that person might regret getting their arm chopped off and then they're going to like damn ok why did you let me chop my arm off
ok so then we'll go to one of the biggest times in human history where there were more amputees done than a any other time and it was during the civil war and because of the invention of the miny of the mini ball right where there are a lot of people that couldn't specifically during the time their their time of duress
actually give consent to what the medical doctor was performing but because they assigned a contract to be a part of the military ahead of time they in fact did give consent
to the medical procedure so because the procedure was performed
right
did they receive the benefit of that as a matter of fact they did they got to continue to live because gang green wasn't allowed to continue its
you know put path in their body
right so
when it com i but that's interesting
yeah so like when id won
yeah when i look a it's like
other people what they want to do with their body be it tattoos amputations
fuck in weird sexual kinks if it's their body and it's done so in the privacy of their own home or privacy of their own establishment or an establishment in which privacy can be inensured it is not being seen by children
i'm completely okay with it i don't you even say that like you would at least need a doctor to do that
i would hope that the person would be smart enough
to make sure that there was a doctor ahead of there a head was rated back to the topic about
one
should pornub be shot
down
and porn bef ban
from the internet
i mean i don't think it's possible
to ban port i think
you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube
like
he' know are you saying
it's impossible to censor it
on the internet if you wiped all the sites clean like people have that shit downloaded like
so would you make the same argument about
he style
of content
oh that's actually a good point i guess
i don't know it's
it's kind of like banding alcohol
you know like prohibition
i think i do think most people
i don't know i was being a little bit dramatic earlier when i said it was like an all men problem but i do think most people are not perverts and most people don't want to hurt other people
and most people probably do just like go to the front page like click on whatevers look good
like five monutes later move on with their lives
um
i think you know
i don't think a horn ban would work i don't see how it be sitter
yeah i guess so
yeah i don't know how you end up in the in the camp of perverse automatically got to be
you know harmful so neither of you so i if i get this correct
neither of you want to ba
por
no i mean i don't think i
could i don't think we could
i guess
okay we could means i she wants to
i mean
do you want to say or not
i don't like
it's like can we ban sex before marriage like people are going to do it sure you can absolutely
does it work
you could pass the fuck a law all day long right but you know does it work well it works to a certain degree and then you're going to have people to push back aainst the system all right but we are joining to vote
the winner
ll this debate
is and therefore
the infrared showdown
champion
marh i just found the link in the chack
already won like
four
s tv one before nope i mean i can understand why you why you would think that considering the level of argument that they bring right but you know soran you can like wait you fir every thank you for recognizing greatness
i'm going to go ps i'll be back and when i'm back the results will be in what
unbelievable
so
it's really really fucking close
i'll wait till c t v gets back
go announce
the results
allright we have an awkward situation here
unfortunately
it is a tie
in the tide was just broken but by the time i announced it
it was a tie
what the folk
do we do
about this
which
should have a penalty shootout
let's make it interesting
we are going to spice things up
and he
a rap
battle
right off the dome
ga pase take it away
we know
about what
go ahead
no
see tv cant
you're muted
all right so i got i got the beat going on on my channel right now if you guys want to hear the beat that i'm rabit to all right
alright go ahead
lok
look
gaga
it was so nice for you to come on tonight
and i wish that everything is going all right and i've see t v and i'm here to win and i know that if for is going to bring it big because you know
i'm theylp for wolf
and i don't know what you think it but it's true
ah no
that did in wrap but you know what
it's all grants
congratulations to me
because i'm waiting this shit it's me
i don't know what she thought walkin up in here thinking that she was goin to take the title
all we do all night is we win
be cause it's c t v and if you don't know
you better get some fire up in you ask because the legend is show wen up
and that's just
how we play it
it doesn't rhyme now
go go
respond
i have never rapped before in my life
you can sing too
oh gee
can i do literally anything else
you could do a poem or a haiku
oh my god
oh jeez
um
what if i endorse spanning porn cound i clutch the vote then
right
the poll says c t v wins one sixty two one ety seven
we're just going to had
okay
g
goaga shot out your twitch channel
oh i think it's just comrade underslash goggag and i'm probably going to start streaming in like february or january
any last words
thanks for having me on it nice to meet you guys
good talk
interesting points ga good night
daga
before it
ah sad face alright ce t v
wait one moment
oh shit
oh shit what's he about to give me chit
what's hebout to give me
oh shit
oh my god look i en sowt of pettil mines
now
the disgraceful pesto mine
i had to give it to him last week but now
it's yours
ies the champion
of the infrared showed doun
you want it back pesto
you come and get it
stead of
bucket knitting
basically
pessto in case you're curious or he said you were a bitch right
alright c t v
where can we find you
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critically think of veteran
twitter original underscore c t
that's where you can find us the wolf pack
we're making our way through this wwisch landscape trying to make sure that we keep the mean game up and always advocating on behalf of chat because let's face the folks chat is the is the fucking
that right there' is the bread and butter for any shream rat here you got to get subscriptions you' got to get bits you' got to get these things in order to justify your time
on the platform be it to your significant other or to yourself
so because it does take a long time it does take time to create this beautiful content that people are creating sos i want to thank you for putting on the panel tonight
and say for thereay show a mean next week i'm going to be in l
so
we may have to skip the showdwn
but when i get back
the next showdown we're going to have is going to be
a three
ring
match to the ce
in a video game
between
jackson
pestol
itt c tv
whle three people
who can claim to have won
the infrared showed u
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well
i don't know much about pesto
but i know that jackson ninkill needs to stop crying so much
okay
i will see you
critically thinking veteran
sounds good and for appreciate the appreciate the in by brother
all right it's always a pleasure
yamen see it
see it
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bricken believable
oh
brig and believable we have a lot of shit to cover
we've got a lot of shit to cover
when is the next infrared singing compmenty
the next singing cat fuck nos thank you so much paperwor for a five rely shuit
thank you so much holy fap sate you so much brother thank you oh we got a lots to cover
going to check our ready we're going to watch the song oh yeah guys i'm making an announcement i'm making an announcement i'm going to need some promo material i kind of want to have the first one
be on monday but i haven't decided because i'm leaving to l a and wednesday but there's a new show coming out on the infrared show besides the showdown we're going to have two shows a week now and there's a new one do i know what it's going to be called i'm announcing it right now this show will be called professor
i'm going to be bringing on one the poor students and i'm going to act as their professor quizzing them testing them and teaching them and trust me the sensitive are not allowed if you get your feelings very easily you are not allowed i am going to be the gordon ramsey of professors
we are going to learn about all the things we taalk we're going to learn about marxism communism philosophy all those things plato all of them
and the idea comes from need feet so credit him he gave me the idea and we're doing it
re wy are not mention bro
now let me tell you guys something i'm going to be honest with you the showing for that showdwn was pathetic we may not have another showdown for a long time on brek believable
nobody fuck and showed up
h b'reblievable five hundred viewers only
o can say
no way
we got a new logo
ah brik and believable
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and see
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we can say where the road and only time
ok ok by the way guys go to let you know something there's going to be no stream tomorrow no stream tomorrow no stream tomorm go to go sit visit some family so no stream tomorrow
what
what a fuck was that
i
so apparently her son
thinks that julian assans and his supporters are fascists
apparently that's what hassan thinks i've no idea
why someone would decide to think that
it's a little bit strange
but what do you expect
from a squad defending pro joe biden
big socialist
ah you know
crypto fascist
now i'm kidding i mean
're not going to be like vosh call i one of fascist
what
speak of the devil
there's a destiny tweet that i'm going to give
a seal of approval i'll give some support to it
w what's was this
well why are you not mentioning hero julian assonge being extradited what the fuck is wrong with you
assange
stands on the internet are some of the most psychotic weirdos that it's just like
you stop
ok
what
so you don't care about a person being unlawfully
imprisoned and then the possibility of
him being extradite like
what the funck on a take is this a sionz doesn't matter
you just forget about assange
that's what they want you to do that's what the fucking government wants they want forget about it
the those supporters of some are keeping his memory alive
they're fucking heroes
they're fucking heroes
keeping his memory alive they want us to fuck and forget about him the media moved on from him
what kind of fed shit is this what a weird fed fucking thing to say
so stupid
but no following matters right
buck in novalni matters
kind of dumb dogshit take is this
is be normal
you stop
do your fuckin weird thing at the jimmy dore stream ok this is not the jim
wow it's kind of
interesting how
because of his son's de
oh my god thank god there was nothing
m
thank god there was nothing
that's falking terrifying
that was my dems with jackson
and we don't really say shit on fucking
twitter so think god
if that was our discord or fucking
if something else dam bro i'd be fucking terrified
holy
bo a criy
i'm about to falkon cry abad i'm about to cry
oh my god not mentioning
that was literally the most terrifying thing that's ever fucking happen
but because of fucking ah
because of his sons
because of hassan's tribalism in his family
feudile beef with jimmy dore
which is just because of his family i get it his family dude
but you know
you're going to make that lead you to to neglect the issue of new julian the assange you're going associate assangs
why why are you going to do that right shouldn't you want to be like oh jimmy dore's so crazy but
that's like saying
that's like saying medicare for all is just for jimmy dore oh wait
that's like saying like being anti war
is just jimmy dore
oh wait
well i mean that's like saying you know
that's like saying being against the corporations is just for jimmy dorsepport
oh
never mind
well where do you draw the fuckin line right are you just going to start like
ot anything goes apparently like what are you going to start doing are you going to fuck and start defending wall street
openly now
and defend billionaires just because fuck and jimmy dodrtalk shit about them
and his supporters are adamantly against them like
where do you draw the falkin line dude
why do you have to be tribalistic why can't you just
talk about asanj
on stream
and even why not you should want up the jimmy doore supporters right because that's the correct position to take
it's the correct position to take isn't it
it is so why who cares if
if jimmy dore supporters are the only ones talking about it
you're just
basically saying that they're right and you're wrong
it's fogking sat
weirdoes that it's just like
you stop
ok
is be normal
you stop
do your fuckin weird thing at the jimmy doretream oka this is not
that's really fucking weird
that's a really weird thing to say
super win
the jimmy doortream
we do a bunch of different content here go
go hang out with like weird o fucking fascists
ok
what
hey you know what i'm going to start talking a lot of shit i'm going to start talking a lot of shit
because
hassan thinks he's like
the closest to being a normy
hassan you're fucking awkward you're a fucking awkward dude
me and jackson
you've literally seen us onstream
go pick up bitches and shit onstream just off the dome you saw it
we literally just went and did it
know what i mean like
you actually see us do normal things
me and jackson are the fucky normal ones you know what i mean
what has songs like he's a trying to say like oh you guys are the weirdos and here we have a lot of fun and we're normal no you're not you're not fucking normal i'm way more fucking normal than you thank you fridg or at least i'm way more
entertaining charismatic and funny cut
who's going to fuck and say hassan's more funny than me
who's going to say hassan's more funny
pss on
how many people have you made lifh
compared to me
you're fucking this like a
oh we do a lot of things youre dud you're freak dud you're a freak
youve rtual signal all fuck and stream i literally go for hours talking about big booty bitches
and not even talking about politics
the fuck are you talking about you're the weird old dude you're a larper you literally had a fucking soviet flag in your background
because you're a larper you started outs streaming wearing a fuck and hanka hat
it' fucking cringe dude
you're super cringe
you're not some like yeah it's right here too it's literally right here
oh you're king of the normis should the fak abdud
you're the most normal normy guy
no you're not
how are you a fucking normal guy
ro i've seen how you interrpt this is the thing
the sun i've seen you interact with normies
and it's the most awkward weird shit ever
the way you fucking talk about politics with people
it's like you automatically assume people give a fuck and they don't
it's so fucked up
imagine s i'm a jimmy dor guy i'm probably the biggest jimmy dor guy on which i think
on twich i think jackson's
the biggest overall like on you tube plus which
but just on which i'm the biggest jimmy dor guy for now
and
jackson's the second biggest
and both of us
deal with normis way better than you do we both of us like can talk to normys
and appealed to normies way better than you do here to say then why aren't you would sve me as
there's like five reasons i can name right i started out way later
right i started out in march
to
i didn't have fucking t y t so i wasn't famous before i did this shit
i started it now i'm famous i fucking built it myself o i didn't have a fucking
media uncle or whatever write
there
we don't have l s f rigged against us like you do wre you haven't rigged in favor of you
we have a raked against us
i been on oll suf once
and it was because destiny's people
boosted me because it was against boch
beyond that i get taken off elis
right
zerkers
sirka has it rigged against him too
if it wasn't for foking l sf rigging it against zircos royale
we'd be like fucky he'd be a fucking fifteen k andy every royale
that's what i told hm to i said you know
zk you know the differenceen you and rajs l s f it's the only fucking difference
right
soour
there's that well that's ok we're still getting by anyway we're still growing we're still rapidly rising and growing
and that's fine you know
but
the hassan
two years from now you're not going to be as big as you are
simple as that
this is not this is not like a long term thing
it is not a long term thing
thank
people rise and fall look at ninja ninja used to get
two hundred thousand views and now he gets fifty views
yah
people rise and fall
infrared is rising
oz was rising and you know what
let me tell you all some all you elisp gatekeepers and you elisf celebrities that are stcreaming with each other you are a fucking monopoly you are a monopoly
and your monopoly is not gonn to last
people are going to get tired of you people want fresh new faces
no one everyone is going to get tired of the same five people circle jerking each other
and chilling with me oh my god nicking molina and ludwig and his gives a fuck man
youll are not as entertaining as you think that's the thing
that's the thing
you're not as entertaining as you thinkre not as funny as you think the only reason people watch you
it's because
of your existing fame
no other reason
but you're not the cardassians
you're not the card ashians
so there will be a time when you're just boring
we're just considered
fo
sir wangard donated twenty five dollars
charity stream for song legal defense thank you sir wagner and that is something i could look into
to be completely honest i could look into that
i don't know how i don't know if he needs money because
i always thought he's got people loaded behind him right because of bitcoin and all that shit
so i don't knowf they need it but i'll look into it if he needs money for a legal defense
i might just do a charity stream and i'll see what i could do and look into it and see what the rules are
and whatever but
thank you so much for the twenty five b appreciate you
we show you we tone
you understand
am
ya we'll see
i might just do a charity shreen for jullnaissance
his lawyers
oh this is so cringe though this is so fuck and cringe
and on them
the see the see what's going on in l s f
i'm goann to give you an example of the lsf monopoly
maya describes her next b f
he says a one hundred thousand views it's going to be really good guys
thirty
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last
you pa
what
ok
what
two people in has san get
banned or suspended
suspended from twitch what
what is he got suspended do
our twitch is starting to suspend mods
instead of punishing the streamer
no way
i thought i am the one who has to falk and crack down on them
ay mots you can get banned
you held it here
what is going on
wait is there bro what is happening right now
is there like a fucking crazy
is there like a crazy fuck in twitch mod
are right now there just like is banning every single one of my mods right now
deactivating their accounts what the fuck is going on
by di rep staten island for me
and all the man
the c
the sea
and all the man
thk
the fock is a son even doing
rat tail cone for an easy part what's a rerat tail cone
best hair of
oh oh my god you should have
really late
yeah
you' know like why are you so not fashionable no no you look like shit now
i didn't know your
why pokis things
she's in her twenties
what
you guys want to know how i know that i am a woman
in my twenties
because when i go outside
mall one
three
whatever
and i see a little
and i look at them
and they look at me
and they look
toldihim
you
and their
are nice and round and
supple
and there whre there are so little
and they're wearing
little people clothes like you know
when the clothes are little and it's so
fucking cue
and i'm looking at them and they're looking at me and they're looking like the
the people wow with the big eyes and is looking like that
and i'm like
your little body and your little clothes on your little body but your big cheeks the cheeks are too big for the little body
and then i look at the parents and the parents are't looking and i'm like
you guys onant
what
i don't get this
i did he arrived
there's more of this ship
m
you should come with me and my friends and i just never respond ok but to be fair
to be fair a fucking ghost
it's very scary i'm scared
i'm scared of the haunted hayride and i didn't want to and i sow yeah you can show her doesn't matter she's
she's so
well what that funck
what
isn't that a celebrity
is that arnol armist
ah mean is it
arna
day aarness
n
anna de armis isn't that her
rh what type of folk
the fog brow
mmhmm
you'll wack for that
you're giving these girls in insecurity problems ok
that's you that's it
oh
ralp fuck is dude what the hell all right good for him you know
whatever good for him
ah man
you know what i mean like i thought okay fine man you know what i mean
is what it is
is what it is
but really
really
is what it is
is what it is you know i mean is what it is
let's go on all read it
i'm sick of culture warriors
and how much time energy is spent discussing irrelevant shit everywhere
oo what is this
we all know the prooperties of identity politics
ok
it's mind of saying that hosmo people are not bigot in any way we just don't like pfermve bullshit in volkswoing however
i want to talk with the other side of the stupid coin
the few morons who think for someone to be working class
they have to be a sweaty republican oil drmmer wearing a hard hat
he i'm going to stop it here
i'm going to stop it here right
i'm going to actually stop it here
and call this person a falcan idiot
because you are a fuck and dumas
want to tell you why you're a fucking dumb ass
and why i hate you personally
and i actually dislike you and that you're actually a bad person
on a personal level
right
so this is something americans do a lot especially american lefties and i think it comes from like
protestantism or something where they're like you know a lot of people think that fo ball players are all able e bodied but there as some football players that are in wheelchairs
they just love exceptions they just they hate intuitions and they love exceptions
and they make it seem like
they make it seem like every time
you
you give general expression something you' like you're imposing an archetype and and paging people into an archetype
instead of authentically giving
expression to reality
there's no reason why we spontaneously
associate the working class
with people working in heavy industries
it's not because we're thircefully imposing
ah people into an archetype
and we're not expanding our horizons to the disabled indigenous b i p o c in a wheelchair trans whatever like it's not you know it we're not we're not forcefully
shutting our our you know
of course there's exceptions right or of course there's things that don't fall into that category
but that's just really missing a point so in sovit propaganda for example
dee picts like super jack dudes working in mines and shit it's like
you know is everyone in the soviet union looking like that no i'm sure there's some fat dudes i'm sure there're skinny dudes i'm sure there're short dudes
i'm sure there's falking you know
disabled people and there might be a guy who's only got one leg from the war an eye patch
why do you go out of your way to like have this facebook corporate arb i want to be re representtive you know be more representative
you're just being grotesquely counterintuitive
and
when you be counterintuitive like that in the name of being more representative
it's really just a form of disrespect against our aesthetic sense and it just becomes a grotesquely unaesthetic
and you'd think that doesn't matter but it really does
now am i saying you can't represent women and
minorities and stuff
in a aesthetically sensible way you can it just has to make sense
it has to intuitively make sense
when we see your posters that just show like
the most marginalized possible b i p o c in a wheelchair whatever
the reason people are disgrusted by that is because they hate
those people wo want to erase them
but because it aesthetically doesn't make sense
aesthetically
we can see you're just doing it to rtu signal
you're not doing it because it conveys an imminent aesthetic truth
that actually does relate to our sense of what the working class is
you do it because your virtue signaling we can tell that the reason you drew that person is because you went out of your way to virtue signal
you can just authentically try to give expression
to what the working class means to our sense
right
and i know i'm wait for the strama are you saying that only white people are working no i'm not
but you know there's no reason why
the labor movement historically
wit
heavy on the masculine side of things right and even when they depicted women
they depicted them in a very like
apalllan way like fucking like very strong and radiant and
bold or whatever like solar almost like
its masculine energy
we there's a reason for that
there's actually reasons for that it's not because of the a conspiracy and prejudice or whatever
it's because there's something about it that makes sense
right
if anything the sweaty oil workers are more non white
or whatever which is true actually like fascinatingly it's true
ironically it's fuck and' true
right
now people who think beauty and aesthetics are just meaningless and don't matter
um
you're a fucking idiot
because that is how people are going to come into contact
with what you are
they're just going to look at you and see what you are and what you look like
and
i promise you that's going to be ninety ninety percent of it ten percent of it is going to be r rational argumentation
in politics ninety percent of it is just going to be like does it make sense to people
aesthetically
or intuitively or unconsciously
ten percent of it is going to be irrational argumentation
and by the way you're wrong taxs you there are women welders construction workers and and plumbers
and there's a way to represent them in a way that makes sense
but going out of your way to do it just for its own sake
is extremely in authentic and people can fuck and see that like i'll give you an example of this
um
i saw a video
and i don't agree with it
h entirely
but
it's like a dystopia of the future or whatever and
there's a mural and this is what
this is what i just want to ask people like
is this a form of aesthetics that
is this a communist aesthetic
right here
what do you think when you see this
s why are you getting worked up on culture warshingp
i do not think anyone would ever make this aesthetic unless their fucking mind was already rotted
by culture war bullshit
nobody would go out of their way to make it look like this unless they were trying to make a statement in regards to the culture war so no
you can't say worre the cultural warriors
because we're the opposite
because we want to give expression to the real working class
because we're not doing it
to virtue signal culture we're just doing it because it's what makes sense to us
but meanwhile
the opposite cultural aesthetic of the liberals
that's not coming from an authentic place of like
what do we feel what do we think the working class is that's coming from a i'm going to go out of my way to represent them in this this specific way
because i'm trying to make a statement
that people are sinful and and their intuitions are sinful and that they need you know oh you don't like this person with a beard
and i
that person in a wheelchair and the person with these big legs and hairy legs or whatever then you're a bigot and you should rethink your life
i mean look
none of these people if they were real people
should ever be discriminated against
but
this is a tiny minority most people
identify with one gender or the other
ok
and follow the norms culturally of that
this is
perfectly a llowed
if you want to express yourself in this way
but it's not representative of the majority of people
it's not representative of the majority of people
so why are you focusing on the exception so much
okay
so this is really fucking stupid
this is a stupid fucking thing to say
and i'm sick of these fucking reditors is it't something about redit that gives you this nuance like no dude it's not like a
you know what im i'm against the bradlibs but you're taking it too far yourself ha
you're just the fence sitting fucking coward is what you are you're just a fucking fence sitting coward
who just wants to conveniently assume this because
you know this is the these are chapel people this is one hundred percent chapel people and i don't fucking like amy teresay or whatever
well i don't dislike her but it's like
she says a lot of stupid shit about us and about me right sneak this in me on the low key i've seen it before
where she was like the just want to be the next chapel this is it so i'm pissed about that shit whatever i think that's dumb as fuck
but she is right
when she says
that chapel is just a lib democrat with
a bit of convolution it's like they have this nuance with like oh i'm distant from the liberals and i'm a little bit critical but at the end of the day we're going to be with them
that's exactly what this fucking person is doing
and you know what
maybe a culture war
maybe a proletarian cultural revolution ain't the worst thing in the world we could use a proletarian cultural revolution
why not
right but the culture wars in america
listen the culture war in the united states is entirely one sided it's almost completely one sided right
it's based on his work people
trying to whatever and then the read the
conservatives are just pushing back
but they're not actually having their own proletarian cultural revolutions
right
and that's where we come in we want a proletarian cult revolution and this time we're going to be on the fuckin offensive how about that
how about we go on the offen sve against the work people a proletarian cultural revolution against the parking ivy league sixtousan nineteen academic pieces a shit
how about that
an ar proletarian cultural revolution
is not going to be based on virtue signaaling we will have no virtue signaling it's going to be based on she's as stetic and moral revolution
we're going to have an aesthetic revolution
that is beautiful by its own right it is beautiful
and communist and spiritual by its own right it is not about a making a cultural statement
it's about bodly
giving expression to our authentic communist belief
gdrew aesthetics and that does f matter
that does foralk a matter
yes
and by the way
have you guys forgotten about the c pusa
i hope not
befe there's a pole in this rd it i'm going to check the fucking pole
and if i'm disappointed again we're going to have more pudges
becuse we might need more purges right
despite the fact
that there's only
four hundred and sixty people here
just fucking pathetic
i don't know are people taking exams this is there an excuse is there an excuse
for why the viewers are so low to yesterday and today
is there an excuse what's the excuse
what's the falck and reason
finals
so fail your test
faill your test
i'm just kidding
skidding
i'm just skidding okay whatever
the joke
but why are so many students in my fucking community you know
think about it
anti semitism is banned on discord yet they
i'm so sick of people just like
just talking about banded topics int
always mentioning these band fucking topics like
it's literally banned ok so shut the fuck up about it
did you want to appeal to the younger crowd
yeah
yeah
yeah
you broke up with your girlfriend because she's an insane damp
but i'm going to be real
i'm going to be in l a next year
wednesday
and
i don't look the streams are either going to be like the best streams ever on twich
or they're goninga be super funck and boring
what
however regardless of what the streams are going to be like
i'm gonna have a lot of walking fun
in l a
wow
you know what i mean
like regardless of how the streams are going to be
i was gonna have a
good time right
i don't know if you're going to have a good time
but i am you know what i'm saying
so
and i'm thinking to get the booster shot
for a j and j if they need it an l a i don't i' have have to lok it up
a streamer is trying to steal la tino from you
hold up what the fuck are you talking about whatt dreamer
what streamer
whatre s you talking about
what's going on who's stealing what
because you did subscribe and i did see that
with the fok you mik why would you ever return to limbo
five
that circus friend
the fog
bubble the bubble buds don't need squatting
he's very tall
ah she will get to your names when she gets i will get your names when i get to your names the hell's going on read you'll make over here trying to steal steal your girl over here
talking about how he wants to fly me out
what kind of dumbs that's fucking stupid
how would she say that
oh my god
do not call just tip sixty nine dollars and s dinner is on me
oh my god
thank you so much you're insane and i didn't even notice that
should i just be like he can have you
i'm actually close to saying what is going on i'm so confused
are you mentally what the fog i'm so actually confused i can't see you mcdonald's coupons i can show you an average night oh that sounds so fun
let's do it let's let's go to mcdonald's and eat turkey
are you just not smart
hm oma hm
my god
message deleted
i got deleted
no way
mmhmm
though should i just ban her again
i i have a business email
yeah i'm is going to ban this and i'm not going to red lobster
that is something i will not do
no way no bhy how are you
too much food for me
sixty sixty nine dollars is a little bit too much for me i'll tell you that much
i smell like fish that's so cute
youh mad that's going to happen anyway but
this means i'll be free publicly
right
and you know what you know wor let's just do it
i'm going to ban her
then
the wild latina
a got of you
there we go
is what it is i'm a free man i mean i was anyway but like
in public i am tuno you know
anyway
mustt continue
the state of the western left
rose i found out my cafe manager is communist
bet they're a dope manager
they are even though this cafe is a corporate one
it is the best managed f and b place i've ever worked at what
with the fark
read the comments for what this one
we're going to watch the new gd on video after this tun
have you noticed how many of these fucking lefties are managers
you remember the fucking time
when i was debating that guy last week
oh the destiny to week
i show you
look when he states facts he states facts
me see
yeah this is actually one thousand percent true
um
i'll keep pointing this out no one on the left is actually capable of engaging with any arguments
the goal is to simply label as racist fascist and then run away every single time
know that's one hundred percent fats you know what i mean
that's a thousand percent fax
you know
that's just facts
thank you one final game appreciate you
that's a thousand percent fax
are c rt people like this
m
what
what're you folking talking about
yes of course they are what do you mean
we're just going to do we're just going to define the word differently and then say oh they're not real leftists
who cares that's what most people mean
when they use the word stop fucking do an anglo box shit
you just do an anglo box shit wasting time
that's crazy
all right
absolutely what
the reds boring is usual for anything good here
vaccine disagreements turning alex jones against trump
alex jones declares war against donald trump unless he comes out against the corona injection what the fuck
boker on russia and ukraine let's checke this one up
we're going to checke this one out actually
see
good evening and welcome to tucker carlsonce i here something all of us need to begin to internalize
just because something seems far fetched toar it seems
crazy
where it seems totally destructive
core american interests
doesn't mean the u s government
won't do it
that's the main lesson of the moment we're living
so with that in mind do not discount no matter how far fetched it may seem a hot war
with russia
yes that is a lunatic idea
there is nothing we could
possibly gain from a military confrontation with fladimir putin and there's very much we could lose
including of course many thousands of american we
but that doesn't mean joe biden won't do it
biden is unpopular he's on
competent and he's desperate
but more than anything joe biden is weak
he is a pawn of his staff in the hard eyed audiologs who surround him
russia is currently involved in a border dispute with neighboring ukraine
many of biden's closest aids are pushing the united states
to get involved militarily
no among the many many ironies here is that the
raine crisis was largely created by joe bidens own aids and many people like them throughout all levels
the us government
so here's the russian position
for russia the core question is nato
nato was the post war military alliance
created in one thousand nine hundred forty nine to keep the soviets from invading western europe and it worked pretty well for about forty
but the soviet union has not existed
in more than three decades
part of history now
and yet nato very much lives on
better funded than ever
it is an army without a purpose
so at this point need to exist primarily to
forrmant vladimir putin who wouldever his many faults
has no intention of invading western europe
fleedter of putin does not want belgium
he just wants to keep his western border
sure
that's why he doesn't want ukraine to join nato
and that makes sense
imagine how we would feel if mexico and canada became satellites
china
we wouldn't like that at all
in russia's case this is an existential question
a nato takeover of ukraine would compromise russia's access to its sebastopol naval base
that's the site of the russian black
fleet and one of the country's only connections to international water
in the words of russia scholar richard sakwa if russia lost the sevastobel naval base
it would be quote
the biggest military geopolitical defeat of russia
in the last thousand years
so for vladimir putin that's unacceptable it's a disaster
he cannot let it happen he will not
but for the united states and this is the main point here
there would be no benefit either
the united states would gain precisely nothing from taking over ukraine why would we want to do that
at best
we'd be driving russia and we are in fact
deeper into the arms of the government
china
now be a disaster for the united states and a disaster for the world
so why are we doing
why is the uus government
pushing ukraine to join nato
well god knows why
but we are doing this
both partes
are doing
the neo cons round joe biden are fort
course as they are for every sinister and stupid
but so was former secretary of state mike pompeo a smart man sos ohio senator rob port
so hold on is so according to vosh all of this is just a turn left he's right
then why is he attacking all these republicans
so many republicans
so this is a bike i thought i thought talker was just
bulling left he's right it kind of seems like he's making
fox net
what's all
when do fucking left his watch fox news
it seems like the republican voting fox news viewers
are questioning the republican establishment now
as of talker
here right i don't know
maybe voch is right
i
partisan
sort of insane
the question is can joe biden stand up to it
and the answer is come
byden has always been more lobbyist than leader
he says what he's told to say
once it was the credit card companies in delaware that wrote his scripts now it's the neo cons
state departments the same idea
butden spoke today with vladimir putin by video call and according to the white house he informed the russian leader
that the united states plans to control ukraine no matter what broken he turn up the volume of the video or turn your lawyer mike's gaine
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and try to manage my stream
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secretary of state and struggling pop musician there are people who pay to be here
and they don't even do that
you entitled
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tony blinkin repeated that mess
what it dick
hold on there's another guy out of bd
i that's a perma ban actually
so let's continue
threaten to send american troops there
here's tony blinkn spoke
if russia chooses to fail to deescalate if russia chooses to move forward
with any plans it may have developed
to
to continue its military aggression or to aggress militarily
upon ukraine to violate ukraine's
sovereignty its independence its territorial integrity
you talking about the chatter
i need you can unban it if you want
only if naedsfat onant stone banon
that we
and our allies would be prepared to at
we would be prepared to act
resolute
ukraine's territorial integrity that's the concern
that's what this is really about they're telling
because
if there's one ba sid in white house cares about
it's secure border
at least in eastern europe or borders
thank you the sucer i appreciate you brow
thanks for that
sub or not read
ukraine's borders
must be defended
it would be immoral to open those borders to the world and allow say
tens of thousands of unemployed haitians
pour across
we can't allow that
in fact we will send american troops to ukraine to prevent that
open borders are only permitted in texas arizona and california
and anywhere else the potential democratic voters might arrive uninvited from the third world
but ukraine
no
ukraine is a god given right to territorial integrity
and american soldiers will die to defend that territorial integ
that's our official position
now according to s and we must stop these
russian attacks on the sacred borders of
crane
because if we don't stop them what we could have here
is what c n n is calling a
dire security suation
now that phrase thank you general position apparently comes from joe bidens undersecretary of state torya newlan
who according to c n gave a quote
gloomy briefing to u s senators
now tory newland is strongly in favor of orth
suir
what's amazing
is that anyone
any
is still listening
no serious person could take victoria newland
seriously she's a joke
not only she obviously unimpressive as a person ask anyone who knows r and she's not especially pro american by the
she was one of the architects
of the disaster
in iraq
so why is tory nulan still talking about foreign policy
is the guy who designed chair noble still building nuclear reactors
probably not
only in washington where failure is a siduouslely rewarded could someone like victoria newlan still wield power which she
does
it's scary when you think
toy nulan is driving our ukraine policy
which of course is being justified by our broader support for quote democracy
now keep that in mind as you
this
this is the same
the same
tory new
who was caught on tape several years ago scheming
about how to end
democ
in you
here's newland in a leaked audio recording
applauding the overthrow of ukraine's democratically elected president
listen this new and rattles off a list of potential puppets to install in place of the democratically elected pres
the guy who's got the economic experience the governing
experience he's
he's the guy you know
what he needs is cleach and tiny book on the outside he needs to be talking to them four times a week
you know
i just think cleach going in he's going to be at that level
working for yachts new
' not going to work
yeah no i think that's i think that's right okay
it's just not going to work what are the voters of ukraine
who thought they were engaged in democracy
now there's tory newlan
working to overthrow demk
keep in mind if they'll do it there
they will do it here
you're hearing the same state department goon
who work to organize a
who in ukraine
telling us we need to go to war with russia to preserve democracy
in ukraine
these people have no shame
so the question is what is this really about of course it's not about to
seafoch names youre
well in part it's a hangover from the lunatic russia hoax that absorbed washington
everything about vladimir putin is bad therefore let's have a war with him
what people think that
but there's also a deeper cost here this rarely noted
for years ukrainian interests have pumped millions of lobbying dollars into washington d c to change american foreign policy in the
at one point as you may have heard
they employed the president's own son
to repeat their talking point
so tens of thousands of dollars a month to tell us that russia is bad and we need to stand with ukraine because democracy
even as wh work to overthrow them
in your
so with that in mind now that you know that maybe you were not so surprised
when joe biden concluded that vladimir putin
doesn't possess a soul
to and his response was we understand one another i wouldn't be a wise guy i was alone with him in his office that's how it came about it was when president bush ha said i've looked in his eyes and saw a soul i said look th your eyes and i don't think you have a soul look back me said we understand each other so you know timer put you think he's a killer
mmhm i do
childer
again children
pending
leaders letter putin's a killer
presumably unlike every other head of state on earth
through all human histy
but honestly
that is not the relevant question
vladimir putin soul
who cares
we can leave that to his priest assuming he has
the only question that matters the only question
is how does intervening in ukraine
help the core interests
of the united states and of course that is the
one question
no one in washington is asked
watch the pentagon's obedient little flack a men was a little dignity he'll say whatever he's told us
brag about how much military equipment
we are now sending to ukraine
and notice as you watch this tape that he never even
thinks about explaining why we would be sending that military
we have
provided
millions of dollars worth of
lethal and non lethal assistance to ukraine in just the last
you know ten months eleven months
nothing is changed about
our commitment
to making sure that
ukraine
has what it needs to defend itself
so say what you will about donald trump and his twitter account maybe you liked him maybe you're apalled by his personal style
but in retrospect if there is one thing that donald trump deserves a tternal credit for
it's keeping idiots like that in their box for four y
there were no pointless wars under donald trump
that is not a small thing in recent american history f it's rarely happened over the past
sense
but through un wavering determination for which he has not gotten credit if there's one thing is ors credit for it's this
donald trump
i agree
he i agree again and i agree entire with congress and guys
raytheon
when all the interested parties pushed him to go to war here there and that is fact fm resist
and in washington
above all they hated him
that
in the end they impeached him
as one witness put it during our impeachment inquiry
the united states ad ukraine and her people
so that we can fight russia over there and we don't have to fight russia here
really we're going to fight russia here are we out of the shift
adam shiver
a dumb person and a partisan democrat
but what's so interesting
and ought to make you sit up and pay attention
is suddenly partisan republicans
are making adentical noises
just this afternoon senator roger wicker mississippi not a genius famously but still a sitting republican centor
went on fox news to say we may need to send american troops to ukraine
possibly because this isn't insane or anything
think about the use of nuclear weapon
got that in our back pocket nuclear weapon
roger wick
sitting us
no one in washington laughed at roger
this is so crazy
that no one seems aware of how
crazy it is
they're all just sitting back and listening to torria nwlan
tell them
what we need to do
how much has this penetrated the psyche of washington d c well here's a said
this is jonie ernst is totally affable nice republican sort of reasonable in most things from the midwest
suddenly sounding like a bloodthirsty warmongor something like
actually adam shift
when she talks about that dastardly latamin
he needs to say to vladimir putin
that we are no longer going to allow you contin to continue with the nord stream two pipeline
we need you to know and understand that we will defend ukraine we will provide them assistance he needs to make that very clear
putin is so bad we're going to cut off natural gas to western europe
in retaliation against him in december
we're going to
freeze germany and the luxembourg and that's going to teach
flat in your put
again
what you just saw there
is a child
who has no idea
what she's talking about
but keeps talking
anywhay
we will defend ukraine says joni
remember this is a senator from iowa
so what happens if we don't defend ukraine joni erns
well kids in des moines grew up to speak russian
no one asked he that question she's never thought about it
for a moment
that all this reading from the same talking point
adam shift
roger wicker
to jonie
you'll compare this zo to osch and tell me the fucking political spectrum still has meaning
o
it turns out that
foreign lobbying campaigns work pretty well
and that's whath the ukrainians paid for one in wash
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