ACP WAR | THOMAS MASSIE LOSES + WHY | DEBATES

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How's everyone doing?

So we got a lot to talk about y'all.

Thomas Massey uh

Lost, and uh, we got to draw some immediate conclusions from that.

And I want you guys to have the correct conclusion, not the wrong conclusion.

We're also wondering, there's a lot more there that's going on tonight specifically.

There's a lot more stupid, retarded, targeted attacks, but in any case.

We've got quite a lot to talk about, okay?

So first of all, why did Thomas Massey lose?

Let's just get right into it.

Why did Thomas Massey lose?

Okay.

Answer one, because electoralism is a is is obsolete?

No, that's not why, okay?

Because elections are inherently impossible to win in any scenario?

Not true.

This was a very specific circumstance where Thomas Massey ran for the Republican primary.

I want you guys to have some background information because you may not know this, okay?

I want you to have a realistic understanding, okay?

I want you to have a realistic understanding and understand why it's not necessarily true.

It's not necessarily true that this speaks to the this is proof that elections are impossible to win.

If they were impossible to win, then tell me why this was the most expensive House primary

In US history

You heard that right.

This was the most expensive US primary

House primary in the entire history of this country since the founding in seventeen seventy six.

They had to spend so much to get the extra, what, seven, eight thousand votes to defeat Thomas Massey in the Republican primary.

So, yeah, they really, really, really put a lot of effort in making sure he was going to get unseated.

And we have to look at the voter demographics and we have to look at the turnout, the exit polls to really get a clearer picture.

I'm going to go ahead and guess that they mobilized the retirement homes and the retarded, evangelical, barely sentient boomers to tip the scale in the way that had to be tipped in order for this to happen.

They really, really got the Walmart scooters out and really they were room room rooming all the way to the polls.

APAC and the Zionists made sure the fat, obese, retard boomer retirees were on their fucking scooters driving to the polls to make sure that this would happen in mass numbers.

And even then, it was very, very tight and it was a very close race.

So remember, this was the most expensive house primary in U.S.

history.

Making them spend this much money only happens when they're scared.

They were fucking terrified of the prospect that Thomas Massey would win.

And what did I tell you before?

I've said this so consistently.

I'm very consistent on this.

All warfare, and since we're Marxist Klaus Witzians, we understand that war is an extension of politics and politics is an extension of war.

So politics is indeed a form of warfare.

And what do I continually and always say?

All warfare is about morale.

The only thing that compels human beings to organize in a collective manner, in a collective, coordinated manner, to pull together what they have, is morale, a moral unity.

That's the only thing that compels human beings to actually decisively work together in ways that break their habits and conventions.

It's just morale.

It's a game of morale, right?

Had Thomas Massey won this Republican primary, it would have been a morale shock to the nation because the headlines would have shocked the nation.

The headlines would have produced an effect by way of morale that inspires hope among the masses.

Why?

Because the Zionists and the people that rule and control politics understand one thing.

All it takes is for the masses to have self-confidence for a revolution to happen in this country.

The American people are ready for a revolution.

They've been ready for a very long time.

They're ready to see the kind of change that libtards tell us is impla plausible and they need more education and need to watch more Hassan streams or something.

No.

The masses are ready for revolutionary change.

And the minute anyone inspires them with the self-confidence of self-awareness of, holy shit, oh, we are together.

Oh my God, we can fucking do this.

We can win.

We can pull together what we have and win.

Anyone who becomes a standard bearer of that hope has to be punished, discredited.

And they have to throw everything they got to break them down and slow them down and destroy them.

So it's no surprise, but imagine had Massey won, it would have sent shockwaves throughout the nation.

It would have been the torch the torch that lit a completely new

Era of politics in this country, I would argue, right?

Given the context, it would be a definitive victory in the MAGA Civil War for the genuine, you know, sincere forces that were within that movement or adjacent to it.

Now, I want to actually spell something out for those of you who cannot understand.

It's not actually bad that he lost the Republican primary.

Why?

Because had he won.

It would have had a Zoron effect, maybe.

It would have convinced tens of millions of voters across the country that the Republican Party is a salvageable platform.

Just like Mamdani is being used as the pretext for Hassan to dupe and trick his audience into thinking that the Democratic Party is a salvageable platform.

Massey losing this, Republican primary in particular, proves the Republican Party is not salvageable.

And why is it that the Republican Party is unsalvageable?

Is it because the elections were rigged that the Democr the Republican Party played some games to make sure that maybe, maybe.

But that's not actually what's important.

What's actually important, and what I'm not really seeing in the discourse much, which I would like to see more people have awareness of, which is why I'm telling you right now.

The reason why the Republican Party will never be a sufficient platform to have this kind of politics.

And then when I say this, it's gonna shock you.

You're gonna start like, holy fuck, it's a miracle Massey even had a chance and won or sorry, lost by the margin that he did.

Because in order for Massey to actually win, he's gotta cut across the partisan lines.

His politics doesn't just represent the views of Republicans.

It also represents the views of a lot of people who are conventionally Democrat.

Obviously, it represents young people for sure, but it represents independents, apolitical people, and Democrats.

And to reach those people, you cannot confine yourself to the Republican ticket.

Now, this was a strictly Republican primary.

Only registered Republicans could vote in this primary, I think, right?

That's how it works.

So the only way, the only way this could have been successful is if the majority of strictly Republican voters voted for Thomas Massey.

That's extremely hard.

Because if you look at the polls, if you understand how MAGA is structured, MAGA is not full of committed Republicans.

It's just not.

Strictly, it's not exclusively Republicans I mean.

It's always been necessary for the scales to be tipped in both 2016 and 2024 for a huge bulk of Democrats to actually tap in or ape political people or former Democrats or something to tip the scales for MAGA.

That's always been the case in the major presidential elections.

MAGA would not have existed if it was just traditional and conventional Republican constituencies alone.

The strictly Republican electorate, the strictly, strictly Republican electorate, meaning the people who aren't swing voters, the people who are strictly die-hard Republicans forever, well the majority of them are fat evangelical boomer senile retards who are just fundamentally unsalvageable.

MAGA has never gotten its vitality or vigor from them.

It has always gotten its vitality and vigor from swing voters and apolitical voters.

You look at the polls and it confirms this.

So what Thomas Massey really missed here in terms of trying to score any kind of victory when he's going against the Republican machine, which is effectively what he was doing in this election, he was going against the Republican machine.

Well, the kind of victory that he needed to score

He needed to

He needed to get voters who are not people who give a shit about Republicans.

He needed to get non-Republican constituencies to pull any kind of victory like this.

So I'll go ahead and say this.

You know what Massey should do going forward?

He should declare that third-party electoral coalition with Major E.

Taylor Greene, get as many progressive Democrats as he can to tap into it, get as many disgruntled MAGA Republicans to tap into it, and give a platform to fresh new independent candidates who are going to be running.

In the midterms, to have a platform, to have a viable third party that they could say, well, this is a viable third party.

Thomas Massey's part of it, MTG is part of it, other people are part of the like immediately give the party credibility by declaring it right now while you're in Congress.

And let's see a third party actually score some victories in the midterms.

Not a majority of victories, that's impossible, some, to build a foundation for something in the future.

That's how we're going to have the political realignment work in this country.

And why am I saying this?

When you say, well, you know, it's.

It's impossible.

Electoralism is like completely obsolete.

It's impossible.

I have to say this.

Look, that might be true, but we still have to show that we have a way forward and we have a strategy to offer people.

We have a choice.

Because look,

Mainstream politics is still the way that Americans articulate their existence.

Let's just be radically honest about that fact.

Most Americans still when you ask them about politics, what's the one thing you guys hear whenever you talk to average Joe's on the street as American communists, what's the first thing you hear?

I'll tell you the first thing that I hear.

First thing that I hear is.

Who are you going to vote for?

Oh, who would who would you want to vote for then?

Oh, which president?

Everyone still articulates politics in the language of conventional electoral established politics.

That's just ninety nine nine nine nine percent of Americans.

Anything beyond that is just goes beyond the threshold of their current imagination.

That's just the truth, that's where Americans are at.

I tell people, I say I don't vote, but it would be interesting if Tucker ran for presidency.

It would be interesting if Thomas Massey ran for presidency.

That's what I tell people.

And immediately I get a resonance with 99% of the people.

Average those who are like, oh, I love them.

Yeah, I love what they're saying.

I love how hard they're going against Israel.

I don't say I would vote for them.

You know, the communists disdain to conceal their views.

But I do get a pulse on where people are putting their hope.

You know, oh, I really like these people.

Yeah, yeah, those are the people who should run.

So we need to absolutely be clear.

That

This is fucking terrible because what these fucking Zionists do is they let the progressive Democrats win in their primaries, and then when it comes to the Republicans, like Thomas Massey and others, they absolutely go.

Let me ask you a question.

I have a question to like uh Democrat leftists, leftists who still work with the Democratic Party.

This is literally a question, a million-dollar question.

Anyone who can answer this, they'll send you $500.

Tell me why.

Why is this the most expensive congressional run primary in the history of the U.S.?

If I'm correct, someone correct me if I'm wrong.

I think this was more.

Was this more expensive than the New York Mayor race?

Was this more expensive than.

Let me ask Grok.

I'll just ask Grok.

Why wasn't AOC's primary this expensive?

Was it more expensive than the NYC Democratic primary for mayor?

Okay, um so Kentucky raised thirty to thirty three million.

Outside independent spending alone reached thirty to thirty five million.

Okay, so it was about the same, neck and neck.

Okay, fair enough.

That was also very much about Israel, when you think about it.

But also, consider the following.

Why is that not even impressive?

Hold on, hold on, no, no, no, no, no.

I just thought of something.

This is fucking crazy.

This was just as expensive as the Momdani race.

You want to know why that's fucking crazy?

Because million, what over a million people voted in the Momdani race.

Wasn't it like 2 million people?

Holy fuck, only 40,000 people voted in this race.

So for a race of just like.

I don't know, 100,000 people total voting in this primary.

What was it?

What was it exactly?

It was like, what, 70,000, 80,000?

This was the this was thirty-five million dollars, okay?

Mom Dani's Cuomo, Andrew Cuomo.

Got just as much money as this random fuck named Ed Gallery.

And they're fighting over such a tiny, tiny electorate compared to New York City.

Holy fuck, how is your mind not blown?

Everyone think about that for one fucking second.

The New York City race, the New York City race, millions of people are voting in that shit.

And it costs just as much.

Just as much for this small district in Kentucky.

Tell me why they don't spend on Democrat against progressive Democrats as much as they spend against people like Thomas Maskey.

I want a good faith pro-Democrat leftist Hassan Piker.

I want Hassan Piker to answer this.

Hassan Piker, why don't they spend as much against progressive Democrats per even remotely comparable electoral populations?

You know, they spend just as much on Cuomo for a population that is 5 trillion times larger.

But in any case, why do they never spend this aggressively to stop and thwart progressive Democrats?

Right?

This is fucking crazy.

No one thinks about this.

Because who's more of a threat to the system?

Dividing the Democratic Party, which is undividable?

Or the people trying to divide the Republican Party?

Holy fuck, you divide the Republican Party, you're causing trouble.

You're causing problems.

And people tell me MAGA communism was stupid.

Everyone who said MAGA communism is stupid, I want you to look in the mirror right now, look at yourself in the mirror, and recognize the retarded subhuman that you are.

Of course MAGA communism was the fucking smartest shit.

Why?

'Cause they're not fucking scared about the stupid sleepover slumber party scandals that happened in the Democratic Party.

Nobody gives a fuck about that.

Nobody gives a fuck about the tiptoeing of Democratic Socialist progressives moving the needle.

Nobody gives a shit.

They don't spend anywhere near as much.

to stop progressive Democrats as much as they do to control and stop people who could potentially divide the Republican Party.

Because the Republican Party's the belly of the fucking beast when it comes

To the controlled opposition within this country.

Nobody gives a shit about what happens in the Democratic Party.

Why?

Because the Democratic Party is a well-oiled machine and the machine will always win.

The Republican Party is a fucking it's a retarded shitfest.

And thus far it's been like a Wild West and it fucking terrifies them.

The unpredictability terrifies them.

They're spending so much, so much ha on on this one guy, this one district, okay?

So everyone needs to be cognizant and pay attention.

Yeah, why was

The Republican primary keep this in mind, the Republican primary, it was like

Correct me if I'm wrong, it was like 36 for Massey and like 47 for the other guy.

47,000.

So it's like less than 100,000 people voting in the Republican primary.

They spent just as much on this primary as they did.

On the Democratic primary in New York City for mayor, where like what?

How many people fucking voted in that?

Why does AOC never get this this

Why does AOC never get challenged this aggressively?

How come no one's asking this question?

Why is it only people like Thomas Massey that they're fucking scared of?

Okay, well, it just goes to show the thing that's going to be the breakout moment for people like Massey, the breakout moment.

Get the fuck out of the Republican Party, take all those people with you, form a third party, and invite people who might vote for progressive Democrats in.

That's how you're going to fucking win.

There's so many people duped by progressive Democrats who could vote for Thomas Massey.

So many people.

Get all them in.

Shore up, everybody.

Shore up ex-Democrats, ex-Republicans, plus Independents.

You could pack a very powerful punch.

If one congressional seat is won in this country by a third party, it all takes just one victory.

All it takes is one victory.

One victory will fucking It'll be the biggest thing to happen in the history of US politics since 2016.

By far.

I think it's possible.

I think it's very possible.

Now, to give you an idea of how ridiculous.

How ridiculous.

What the fuck is this?

Who's Chris Rabb?

Who's Chris Rabb?

Chris Rabb has won the Democratic primary against his APAC backed opponent.

How much was spent against Chris Raab?

Let's ask Rock.

How much money did Apac spend against Chris Raab?

APOT apparently they didn't spend

They spent two point six million on ads in support for Stanford.

So they spent a total of two point eight million.

Oh, yeah, I'm sure this guy's a su this guy's a huge threat to Israel.

He's such a threat to Israel that APAC spent ten times less than they spent against Thomas Massey.

Because they don't give a shit, because they know that this guy is going to get on his fucking knees for the Democratic Party, for J Street, where they're going to say, Netanyahu is a very naughty boy.

But we still defend the right of Israel to exist.

In fact, let me look this up.

Does Chris Rabb recognize Israel's right to exist?

Let me see.

I know it's an extreme tall order.

Yes, he's he's has publicly stated oh no.

Yes, he has publicly stated he supports Israel's right to exist.

Um okay.

He condemned October 7th, okay.

Yeah, this is a standard Democrat jibber jabber, fucking spineless nonsense.

It has nothing to do with a with an actual functionally I'm not talking about ideologically even.

I'm just saying like, are you willing to literally slap Nancy Bitch Pelosi in the face proverbially and kick sh Chuck Schumer in the nuts proverbially?

Are you willing to just say fuck you to both of them?

And say fuck Israel functionally like Thomas Massey is functionally.

Forget about ideology, just functionally speaking, are you going to disalign and break with the Democratic Party fundamentally and be like, you know what, fuck Biden, fuck Kamala, you guys are fucking supporting a genocide.

I'm going to vote against you.

Doesn't Massey no Massey?

The difference, I'll tell you the difference between Massey and Chris Rapp.

And I'm just going to guess here.

Thomas Massey is going to be a guy who says, I want us to completely cut foreign aid to Israel and funding for Israel.

Right?

Shepson, what's up?

I bet you anything, Chris Rabb is the type of guy who says, I want to have humanitarian aid to the Jewish people of Israel who are like, he's got some fucking, let me see.

Does he support cutting all aid to Israel?

Let's see.

It calls for ending US complicity in the genocide and economic support for fascists abroad.

Okay, this is a standard democrat position.

He's pledged to cut off US support aid to Israel over its actions in Gaza.

Okay, this is all vague though.

Is he is he saying though, we want not a single doll?

Let me ask uh, let me find this.

What did he think about USAID?

What did he think about cutting USAID?

Let's see if he said anything.

Okay, well I guess he doesn't say anything.

In interviews, discussions

Okay, so he does support non-military foreign aid.

Okay, so he supports US aid.

There you go.

He supports USAID.

He used Sudan as an example.

There you go.

Okay.

So this is what I'm just saying, like, what a victory this is.

What a victory this is.

What a profound victory.

What a profound victory.

Right, what a profound victory when APAC is spending ten times less to sabotage this versus and you want to know the sickening thing?

This is what really sickens me.

Thomas Massey was isolated.

He isolated himself from the Republican establishment, fully cut himself off.

He got support from nothing and no one else.

Not a single where the Progressive Democrats besides RoConnor or whatever, right?

Lending their support for him.

That's why I'm saying he's got to break out of the Republican Party.

You got to get out of the Republican Party.

You got to form a third party, right?

So uh this was pretty much rigging the election, okay?

Now who else won their Democratic Prime I want to see the whole primary results.

US mid US primary results 2026.

Let's see.

Let's check together.

Okay primary results by state.

We have a few of these, okay.

Um

What the fuck is going on?

I don't know any.

Can someone explain to me the thing, the ones that matter?

Illinois.

How many?

Okay, you know what?

I'm just gonna ask Rock.

Let's just use AI.

Let's just ask Rock.

Yay.

Um, how many of the progressive Democrats won the primary in

Primary in tonight's election.

This is good da like I genuinely am curious and want to know just for the sake of having a data point to use to be honest.

So let's see.

Okay, let's see uh the ones endorsed by Hassan Piker only.

Okay.

'Cause I don't apparently they're gonna qualify the meaning of progressive Democrat in

Mm-hmm.

Uh only Chris Rabb won.

Only Chris Rabb won, out of all them.

Uh how about how many lost?

How many lost?

So, Chris Rabb won.

Charles Booker is claimed to be a progressive.

I don't know what that fucking means.

And then Summer Lee.

Okay, so it's interesting.

Chris Rabbs, the only one Hassan supported for tonight's primary, and he won.

Is Hassan pushing the needle?

I don't know.

That's what I wanted to figure out here.

I don't know.

I don't know.

It's it's too it's not Grok is being fucking retarded and is not giving me clear answers.

Uh let's check.

How many Democratic primaries were tonight?

Fuck.

Like, why is Grok fucking with me?

Turn on expert mode.

Six.

Okay, only six had primaries.

Now I understand.

Only six had primaries tonight.

Okay.

Well

I guess it's too early to tell and have any kind of clear idea with respect to

Look at this.

By the way, someone asked if that's Massey's same position.

Not true.

He's the only member of the House to vote against a resolution affirming Israel's right to exist.

And that declares anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism.

And AOC the Bitch voted yes.

Oh my god, look at this.

Recognizing that Israel's right to exist is a form of anti-Semitism, Massey, nay, he voted against it.

The bitch, AOC, voted yes.

In the times we live, we got people trying to say that Democrats are more progressive and more left-wing.

They say the masses are not ready.

But look at this shit.

We got Massey, he's voting no.

Allegedly right-wing, and here's AOC.

She upholds Israel's right to exist.

She says anti-Semitism and take the piss.

She is a bitch, and all our Democrats say the masses are not ready for change.

Tell me why these Republicans speak the voice of the people more effectively than the so called left.

Holy fuck, they say they keep saying oh no, it's too radical, it's too radical.

Thomas fucking Massy is allegedly right wing and it's to the left of AOC on this fucking issue.

That's why this was the most expensive.

Congressional run in the history of this country.

The most expensive congressional primary since the founding of the USA.

That's why.

Holy fuck, AOC is such a disgusting bitch.

Literally getting outflanked by MTG and Thomas Massey all the fucking time.

Oh, they're fascist, they're fascist.

Shut the fuck up, you fucking Mossad Zionist piece of shit.

You know how many retards I see?

Huh?

What am I looking at?

I if it couldn't get worse,

A Democratic candidate, Maureen Galindo, says she will convert ICE Detention Center into an internment camp for American Zionists.

It will also be a castration processing center for pedophiles, which will probably be most of the Zionists.

Hey, wait a second.

I take back what I said about Democrats.

This is the Democratic candidate, Maureen Galindo.

Thomas Massey, form that third party and invite first Democrat you invite is Maureen Galindo, okay?

This is absolutely disgusting.

These bigoted garbage and anti Semitism should be nowhere near our politics.

If you're in T X thirty five, vote Johnny Garcia.

And the donors behind the Republican Super PAC funding her should be exposed.

What?

What?

What?

I have to make sure AOC actually said this, 'cause

Bro, I'm losing my fucking mind.

I'm losing my mind.

Oh my god, I'm losing my mind.

I can't.

I was so good faith to Hassan Piker.

It was crazy.

Over the past few days, I've been so good faith to him.

Bro, why am I being gaslit?

What the fuck is going on?

Why are people we're gonna accept this?

Who is this speaking on behalf of?

Who is this speaking on behalf of?

If I go to Kroger's right now.

And talk to a random fuck, and I'd be like, yo, should we castrate Zionist pedophiles?

They're gonna be like, fuck yeah, bro.

They'll say worse.

So, what when Hassan says, oh, we have to reach the masses where they're at, which masses does this speak for?

It speaks for the bourgeoisie.

It speaks for the bourgeois, the fucking professional bourgeois, ass-kissing, ass-licking, careerist, fucking subhuman kulak filth, the HR kulaks.

This is who it's.

It speaks for such a degree of social scum and filth.

Sigma with the five, what's up?

Can I speak for all of us when I say this?

Everyone boosts the shit out of this.

Everyone boost this shit up.

Let's try to ratio AOC.

Is it possible?

Is it possible to is it even possible I could ratio AOC?

Could this even happen?

I feel like this is such a truth nuke.

Like, it's such a truth nuke.

Like, what else can we even fucking say here?

Right?

Just like a fucking truth nuke.

Such a truth, Nuke.

Let's just boost the shit out of this.

But understand the poetic justice.

You know, a man of South Lebanese Shia heritage.

Family of resistance people down the line, people who were fighting and

Resistance before the 80s, okay, against Israel.

And this is what I'm saying to AOC.

This is what I'm saying to AOC.

That's my lineage.

That's my heritage.

Here I am in the USA.

This is what I say to AOC, the disgusting Zionist bitch.

Everyone appreciates the poetic justice of it.

Honestly.

Honestly, appreciate the poetic justice of it.

Like I I I have the vision to see this is a disgusting Zionist bitch.

All the donors behind the Republican Super PAC fundingers should be exposed.

You should burn in hell, you nasty, disgusting bitch That's what I say to you.

You should burn in the deepest pit of hell, you disgusting, filthy bitch that you are You filthy, disgusting bitch, AOC

AOC

Shit, there's this sh some shit even I can't say.

AOC, if you're ever feeling moody or in a bad mood, or like you just feel like giving up and life is really hard and like, you know.

If you ever feel like you're down and you're sad and you're wondering if you should.

You should.

You bitch.

I hate her.

No, she's not bad at all, actually.

She fucking looks like a donkey.

She's the most disgusting bitch ever.

I fucking hate her.

I hate AOC.

I hate her.

Straight up, AOC, literally, uh, go fuck yourself, you know?

Literally disgusting.

I have this provoked such a hatred in me.

I'm gonna be honest.

Yeah, you don't call me a hateful person.

I do fucking hate this.

This is disgusting.

This bigoted who are you fuck?

What masses are you representing by saying this?

What what masses do you represent by saying this shit?

You people say I'm misogynistic, call me misogynistic against AOC.

I hate misop mis misaocynistic, whatever the fuck.

I do fucking hate that bitch.

Straight up, I hate her.

Like, I can't stand her.

Guilty is charged.

I hate AOC.

I fucking hate her.

It's hatred.

It's like there's some progressive Democrats I think who could be put into the third party.

Not AOC.

This bitch is irredeemable.

She's like Hitler in my eyes.

I fucking hate her.

Like yikes.

Okay, look at these disgusting democratic socialists.

I hope they got ratioed.

100,000 views.

100,000 views, 250 likes.

Why are CIA linked leftist podcasters pushing MGT oh yeah, that's a yeah, the CIA oh yeah, we're all retarded now.

The CIA wants to prop up

The AOC is such a threat to the CIA.

Hi guys, I'm a Democratic Socialist.

Welcome.

My name is Josh Kuckold.

Joe Kucks.

Joe Cuck.

My name is Joe Kuckold.

And I live in this wholesome, retarded, delusional world where AFC pushes rainbows and sunshine and progressive Democrats.

And then the CIA is just this patriarchal, bigoted man in a suit smoking a cigar who's like, I gotta stop her!

I gotta stop these progressives and DSA people.

Oh man, no, it's like, it's like, oh man, AOC won.

The CIA, it's like a retro CIA guy from like the 60s from a fucking movie with a cigar in his office.

It's like the guy from fucking Spider-Man, honestly, the news guy.

He's like,

Give me all the information you have on AOC.

We got to stop her from winning.

I hate the wholesome world that Joe Kuckold lives in.

I want to thwart it and undermine it.

Yeah, the real conspiracy all along was that the CIA wanted to stop wholesome AOC from winning and wanted to promote the bigoted politics of MTG.

And that's the real conspiracy.

The real conspiracy is that the CIA really just does is not on board with my vision of democratic socialist change where we all go out in the streets and have a pride parade of democratic socialism that's so wholesome.

Come together, everyone.

Come together to make a change.

This guy actually inhabits this.

He actually inhabits a world where the CIA, like there's a CIA officer slamming his desk, like, we gotta stop AOC.

We gotta stop the DSA.

They're such a threat to the system.

Like, as if the CIA is so incompetent that all this time, the AOC phenomena and the DSA phenomena was happening at its expense.

It's like they're just like, oh man, they keep winning.

How are they circumventing the most advanced system of control the world has ever seen?

It must be because people like Joe Kuckold are so intelligent and sophisticated.

No, no, no, it's even better.

No, no, no, hold on.

I have a better one.

It's because Joe Kuckold, Gerald, because people like Joe Kuckold are sitting here, they're like, they're like, you know why?

The power of love.

The power of love is why.

Even the CIA can't stop it.

Come together.

Democrats.

It's like he actually lives in this world.

I'm so, you know why I'm a cruel man?

Because I can inhabit other people's heads.

I can inhabit your head.

I will put myself in your shoes and live the world you live in and laugh at you.

Because seeing the world through your eyes is the fucking most hilarious thing.

That's how I, that's how I amuse myself.

I amuse myself by putting myself.

By having the eyes that Joe Kuckold has, and imagining I see the world that they see it as, and laughing myself to death because of how fucking retarded and pathetic they are, how stupid, naive, retarded, and gullible, and pathetic they are.

It's like a child.

This person has a child's understanding of the world.

They genuinely, in their heart of hearts, are convinced.

That all this time, the entire like AOC fandom and the DSA, like that has been happening under the noses of the CIA.

And the best thing the CIA could do to undermine this supposed threat to them is promote MTG and Tucker Carlson.

He genuinely thinks that.

He thinks that when AOC won.

The CIA like started scrambling.

Oh my God.

Oh my God, this is the crisis But but because the Democratic Socialists kept marching, we stopped the CIA.

Hey, you fucking retard.

The only way to stop the CIA like

If we got to half the size

Can I say I I'm can I say something?

The only way we get to fifty percent of the size of the D SA is if the US is in a state of civil war functionally.

I'm not gonna lie to you.

Would I love it if we got to 50k?

That's assuming their numbers are right.

But let's say, like, would I love it if ACP could get to 50K?

Under the system, the most unprecedented and advanced system of control the world has ever seen.

Oh, I'd fucking love it.

But I also understand I know how the world works.

The reason we launched the A ACP is 'cause we're anticipating there's gonna be a civil war.

Do you think we're so retarded so as to think?

You can like maintain this momentum under the system of control.

That is the most advanced the world has ever seen of controlling human thought and behavior.

It's never been this advanced.

Uh

So it's like

The idea that AOC is not herself fulfilling the CIA's agenda.

The only way you can measure the progress on the side of the people versus the system is the way the system is dysfunctioning.

See, the CIA can consolidate and control and capture anything.

What they cannot stop is entropy.

They can't stop systemic dysfunction.

They can't.

They can't.

Massy, empty, these are symptoms of systemic dysfunction, right?

And now, this retard is trying to fedjack it and say that CIA assets.

Oh my god, it's fucking crazy.

But you know what?

This is not even the best part.

I just want to tell you: like, I've been cooking and letting this simmer and savoring it.

I'm not, you think I was just going to like harp on about this so long just because of how retarded the opening is?

No, no, no.

No, no, no, guys.

I have a treat for you.

Are you ready for this treat?

Are you ready for this treat?

Keep on Joe Joe Keskold.

Joe Kuckold.

Maybe this is AI and it's a parody.

I don't know.

Joe Cuckold, he wrote this, right?

Are you ready?

This is a DSA like Boy Scout, Joe Cuckold, an actual retard.

Genuine retard, right?

Okay, I want to show you something.

Are you ready?

Are you ready?

By the way, fucking poles like this are fucking horseshit.

They're horseshit because when they're measuring the older boomer Democrats about their opinion on Israel, they're not taking into account liberal Zionism as a thing.

They think that the only type of Zionism is the net and Yahoo.

That's not true.

There are plenty of liberal Zionists who are unhappy and unfavorable toward what Israel is doing.

Doesn't make them less Zionist.

Anyway, I want to show you something.

I'm ta I'm not I'm not I'm not

I'm not stalling, I'm gonna show you something.

Na na na na na na na na na

Oh my god, oh you guys yeah guys guys guys guys guys

Yeah.

It's real.

This is not a parody.

I would s I was wondering if this is like an AI parody, right?

This is LaRoucheism!

What does this even mean, combining left-wing anti-imperialism with neo-Nazi inspired domestic elements?

LaRouche criticized the Iraq war on the grounds that it was driven by Israel, which was created after the Mad Up Holocaust.

That's news to me.

So they're claiming that all of this, so it's like Brianna Joy Gray and the young Turks.

Bro, Hassan Piker, if you're listening, Hassan, which I think you're not, maybe.

Hassan Piker, this is karma.

Your uncle is now being called a part of the LaRouche conspiracy.

All of this because for a period of like one year, you were entertaining the deranged rants of a retarded CIA agent, Crackhead, or something, who constantly accused us of being LaRouche.

Oh, that's plausible.

This is like LaRouche.

Because me and Jackson, we linked up with the Schiller people for a conference one time.

Fucking sue me.

We'll do a conference with whoever we want.

I'm like, well, 20 degrees of separation.

It's like, I don't, we don't give a fuck.

Who's looking into that?

We're not.

We don't give a shit.

Just did a conference.

Who cares?

Anyway, and by the way, blame China too then, because China hosts those people all the time, right?

And C G T N

But you know what?

I am delighting.

I just wish there was a way I could make money off this.

And I'll tell you why, because they have this track record of accusing left-wing dissidents of being LaRoucheites.

And the most prominent left-wing dissidents for a very long time, I would say for the past four years, has been our movement.

Jackson, Infrared, Midwestern Marx came on board.

And then all they were doing is calling our tendency and our movement LaRoucheism.

And it worked.

A lot of people bought into that.

But now, another wave of left-wing dissidents are emerging who have nothing to do with us, you know.

And you know, the Young Turks people, and I don't know who else is mentioned here.

Bi Brianna Joy Grey, I think.

Is that who it is?

Leftist podcatchers basically.

Yeah, Brianna yeah, here he is.

Brianna Joy Gray, right?

They have nothing to do with us.

So he's like, I'm just gonna hit the LaRouche button again.

Why is it the LaRouche button working?

Because the first time around, when it came to MAGA communism and our whole thing, they were hitting the LaRouche button really fucking hard.

But they pressed that button one too many times.

And they kind of broke the button, actually.

So now, when people who have nothing to do with us are arriving at the same conclusions we did.

It's like the boy who cried wolf.

You can't keep hitting this fucking button, the LaRouche button, because you hit it too many times when you were trying to gatekeep against us.

Is everyone a LaRouche?

You're a LaRussite!

You're a LaRussite!

He's a LaRussite!

She's a LaRussite!

That's a LaRousite!

Are we a LaRussite?

Where's the LaRouchite?

LaRoucheite there, LaRouche there, LaRussite down, LaRussite up, LaRussite right, Larousite left, LaRousite South, La Roussite North, La Russite West, LaRouche East.

Fridis Beni, people put him in a fucking padded cell.

LaRouche is everywhere.

Lyndon LaRouche did one thing Lyndon LaRouche literally he destroyed

He destroyed the brain of like some coked out millennial who then inspired a bunch of fucking cuckolds.

To confidently accuse all people disaligned with the Zionist Democrats of being LaRoucheites, it's fucking crazy.

It's actually fucking crazy actually.

Like what the fuck?

It's actually fucking crazy.

Yeah.

Uh I want to show you another nothing burger.

ACP in shambles, this post is getting so funny!

$20.

Oh my god.

This is another one of these astroturfed, fake botted tweets about ACP.

ACP why are we in shambles?

Let's see.

Victory, for the first time, the Supreme People's Court of China has prohibited discrimination based on sexual orientation, gender identity and gender expression in judicial proceedings.

Okay, let's pretend this is true.

Let's like, let's like, uh, like, let's just like consume copious amounts of copium and just assume this is true, right?

Without even investigating.

Okay.

Well, isn't that already in the ACP's constitution?

So if this headline is allegedly true, it proves that China was more conservative than the ACP was two years ago because two years later, China is recognizing something the ACP constitution already does.

Why would we be in shambles?

If it was true, why would we be in shambles, right?

Okay.

But to crush the dreams of these people, it's actually fake news.

This was not a judicial proceeding, it was a reply from one of the research offices to an inquiry.

It's not a prohibition, it's not a new ruling.

Okay, because somebody privately asked them about.

Whether a rule that was already in place is still in place, and they just go, the PR office is saying, yeah, discrimination is not allowed.

And it's not a policy shift.

Already, China prohibits laws against the discrimination of its citizens on the grounds of characteristics that are private and so on and so on.

So, the text is a response from the Supreme Court of China to a citizen suggestion.

It's not a judicial prohibition with binding force, and it's not an official decision.

It literally means nothing.

If you just translate this and see what it says, it means nothing.

So, no, this headline is wrong.

They for the first time, this is nonsense, okay?

Discrimination and stuff on any of these lines and it by the way, this has nothing to do with transgenderism.

This is about discriminating against people for being women or men or whatever, right?

By the way, it applies both ways in China.

They don't just do one way.

But in any case, um, you know, they do ban bullying and discrimination across the board.

And they have, and there's nothing new about it.

Why would we be in shambles?

Like why would we be in shambles about some shit?

That is not even true.

They're gonna say China has been taken over by neoliberals.

Like they do with Cuba.

Hmm.

You know China doesn't even have gay marriage.

Like, what are you fucking talking about?

Cuba had this crazy family code.

Which was the most unpopular referendum they've ever had in their history.

Meanwhile, China doesn't even have gay marriage.

What are you coping about?

I don't understand what you're coping.

They don't even have gay marriage.

Like what the literal fuck are you even talking about?

Also, the idea that the also, I want to say one last thing on this very boring, fucking stupid topic.

The idea that this means China tolerates the various perverse, like, hypersexual culture that you see online from these furries and all these fucking...

No, they fucking don't.

They really don't.

It doesn't matter.

China doesn't...

China absolutely doesn't.

The Chinese government very much looks down on that shit.

And always will.

The idea that this is like somehow a vindication of the extremely terminally online porn-brained...

And before, oh, you're just being bigoted.

No, I'm fucking not.

You look at the timeline of these type of people.

It's like furry porn.

It's all this explicit, disgusting, hypersexual shit.

China has nothing and will never have anything to do with those subcultures, okay?

In any official capacity, at least.

So, no, this is not a validation of these terminally online weird.

And it doesn't even matter if you're whatever your sexuality is.

Leftists tend to have this really disgusting.

Just very hypersexual online culture, right?

And the idea, they're probably, they're probably, yeah, they say that this is just about LGB, whatever.

Like, look at the fucking um bio of this person.

Like, what the fuck are they even talking about?

Right?

You think that this is like China's validating that somehow and validating these like hypersexual l uh s online mannerisms or like no, they're

It's literally first of all there's nothing new about it.

It's not an official ruling.

Second of all, even if it was, we already prohibit discrimination in our own constitution.

There's a far cry.

There's a difference between prohibiting discrimination and tolerating lewd, obscene, hypersexual displays in public.

That pride parades, for example, you see at at those, I think, or so they say, right?

And if I'm wrong about that, I'll take it back, but that's what everyone says.

Like, uh, let's fucking get real.

Okay.

When, why, why would we be in shambles?

You know, you come at us, we're going to just fucking knock you out 10 times different ways, knocking you out onto the ground.

How are we in shambles?

Even if it was true, our Constitution already prohibits discrimination.

Second of all, it's not even true.

So, in every way you try to attack our party, you're going to get curb stomped proverbially and humiliated.

Like, what a stupid fucking thing.

These people don't even have any dignity.

They don't even value their own existence.

They're like, Yeah, I am a fucking useless, stupid subhuman retard.

Yeah, I tried to commit suicide 23 times in my life.

Yeah, I hate my life.

I know I'm useless.

And it's like, can we just can we have communists that actually have dignity and like have honor and like care about

Having some business to stand on, you do with these fucking weird people.

They're like, Yeah, I do hate myself.

You're right.

I am useless.

Yeah, you're right.

I am suicidal.

You're right.

It's like Jesus Christ.

Can we have some people that like actually value like

Not fucking being like, have some fucking honor.

That's what I always say.

Where's the honor?

If you're gonna live, have honor.

If you're not gonna have honor,

You know what I mean?

No, I'm straight up that strict.

It's like if you continue breathing on this earth, I don't care if you hate yourself, I don't care if you're depressed, I don't give a fuck.

I don't care if you're fucking depressed and hate yourself.

I actually don't fucking care.

If you continue insisting on breathing and sharing, living, you continue living, then have some fucking honor and integrity and sincerity.

Have some morals.

Have some honor.

Have some integrity.

That's the price of life.

If you cannot muster the backbone and the integrity to have those things.

Why are you still living?

Straight up.

No, yeah, I'm going to say that.

Yeah, I am going to fucking say that.

Because Iranians are willing to fucking die, put their life on the line for honor.

Hezbollah and Lebanon.

How many of them martyr themselves because they don't want to live an honorless life?

So, why the fuck am I going to look at these leftists who have no honor and be like, no, no, yeah, you should keep living like this?

No, the price of life.

Is honor, it's dignity, it's integrity.

It's not for free.

If you don't have those things, I don't value your life.

I'm not going to tell you to just keep on keeping on.

No, I'm not.

I'm going to tell you to make a fucking decision.

Because the more you continue living without having any kind of moral guidance in your life, the more you are a cancer and a poison to the rest of the world.

I will fucking say that without any hesitation.

You want to keep living?

I don't care if you hate yourself and you feel bad for yourself and you're depressed and all this fucking bullshit.

Don't give a fuck.

You want to keep living?

Live with some fucking honor.

Live in a moral way.

If you're unwilling to do that

If you're unwilling, you like value basic honesty, value honesty, value integrity.

Honesty is the most important one, by the way.

Sincerity, honesty.

Treat people in good faith.

Treat treat the humanity of other people in good faith.

Give people the benefit of the doubt.

Be merciful to people.

Right.

By default, I mean.

Not everyone, I'm saying by default, right?

Defend the record of your existence.

Defend the record of a life that's worth human, human existence, right?

Um

When you have to weigh between what's true.

And what's easy, always choose truth.

What's right versus what's easy, always choose what's right.

That's the price of living.

That's the price of living.

See, these people who hate themselves and and don't even value their own existence, these are the people who act like the most demonic, twisted scum to others, 'cause they don't even value themselves.

Somebody who doesn't even value or respect themselves, how do you expect them to be anything less than a fucking animal, wild animal, to others?

The Manifesto of the San Diego Shooter

They will say it's the government, the elite, the rich, capitalists.

There's a chance this guy was in my replies attacking me all the time.

Honestly, there's a chance this shooter was in my replies, like attacking me.

I'm not even kidding.

Guarantee if you find their ex, they attack me at least once.

All of them can be I'm losing track of all these different groups.

It's the Jew why would you attack a Muslim center if it's the Jews or whatever?

I don't understand.

It's always been the Jews.

We I guess we're the true Jews, Muslims, we're the true Jews.

What the fuck is this?

The attack I don't fucking know.

I have no fucking idea.

Why would I know?

Is this real?

No fucking way that they're actually

They're celebrating.

Pro-Israel Americans are proud to help defeat anti-Israel candidates.

Being pro-Israel is good policy and good politics.

Yeah, that's a message to AOC and all the other politicians.

Hehehehe

Nick is wild in here.

Oh my god.

That's just a crazy ass thing to say.

Hey, look.

It's not necessarily something I would say, but I'm not going to attack him for it.

I'm not going to criticize him for it, you know, given the context.

Jesus Christ.

Yeah, you want to know the number one cause of anti-Semitism is shit like this.

Just to be honest.

Number one cause of anti-Semitism is uh this.

This is fucking crazy.

Yeah, we own your politics.

We're gonna just move the needle.

Like what okay, there's yeah, there's gonna be no backlash against this, all right.

Sure.

Apec Tracker, let's see.

Uh okay.

Summer Lee and Charles Booker took no AIPAC money.

Okay.

Did he attack AOC?

Where did he attack AOC?

I didn't see.

I'm trying to look for it.

Can't see it.

I don't know what you're talking about.

Oh, they attacked Maureen Galindo.

Where?

Who is Maureen Galindo, by the way?

Ty, what's up?

The five.

Maureen Galindo

Who is Maureen Galindo?

Yeah.

Hold on.

Cheryl Stanley, what's up, man?

Appreciate you.

Democratic congressional candidate in your district.

Who is this?

Who is this?

Is this what?

Alright, I need to find more information.

Marine Galindo uh responds to Hassan Piker.

Oh God.

Hassan Piker is becoming super fucking relevant in US politics.

Like he straight up is.

He's like the last sheepdogger into the Democrats.

If Hassan ever flips, it's over for Democrats.

I am a leftist Twitcher, Twitch live streamer, went in a deep dive on me, on my anti-Zionism on his page, and I just hope that he saw that almost everybody in San Antonio agrees with me, and it's not because we're anti-Zionism.

I did say she might be perfect for San Antonio.

Oh, I believe her.

I'm just saying, is not for me.

Okay.

Not for I don't live in San Antonio.

I don't want to be a carpet bagger.

I don't want to touch this race.

Okay.

I think she might be right, bro.

No, I that's my suspicion as well.

Bro, what if she wins?

Okay, I want to tell you something.

If Maureen Galindo wins.

I will take back the thing I said about all Democrats being irredeemable.

I'll be like, look, we still need to form the third party, but we will invite Maureen Galindo in.

If she wins.

If she wins.

Like, all she has to do is just keep doubling down.

She's like, literally, she's like.

Does not mean I want Jews in internment.

This is what I mean when I say there is a pipeline of like liberal to based.

This is the pipeline.

This is the pipeline.

That's what I've always like when I talked about how actually there's still a pipeline.

From liberals to being based, this is what I'm talking about.

I've always been talking about this.

Counts.

So, why am I getting a whole bunch of death threats and MAGA insults?

Which actually makes sense, I realize.

Like, MAGA and Jewish Zionists apparently are the exact same people.

They talk the exact same way, and that's because MAGA is developing Christian Zionist.

That's how they want to create a religion state in the United States of America, is through MAGA.

Which that's the goal of Zionism, is to create these white supremacist religion states.

So, like, I don't care what religion you are.

If you are a Zionist, meaning that you believe that you are just entitled to land, or someone's just entitled to land based off of religious beliefs, and that you'll kill all of the Semites for it, then yeah, I mean that you're a danger to humanity and belong in prison.

Especially if you have the political and economic resources to make that happen.

And that's how we would, that's how we will get all of the billionaire Zionists in prison, is through all of the business.

I'm Maureen Glinda.

I'm running for United States Congress in the San Antonio and South Texas region.

And Karn City Detention Center, an ICE facility, is like an is an anti-ICE liberal leftist who's like becoming extremely based.

That's what I'm saying, you can't shut the door on any on any pipeline, all right?

She is pretty fucking based.

If she's genuine.

If she's genuine, she's fucking based, and I support her wholeheartedly.

If Maureen Galinda is genuine.

'Cause I don't know who she is.

I don't know anything about her.

If she's genuine,

I fucking support her fully, unconditionally.

Like, I hope she wins, and I hope she disrupts the Democratic Party from within as much as possible.

Let's read Nick Cruz's tweet.

The US left failed the global majority, couldn't stop the genocide in Gaza, couldn't stop the economic starvation in Cuba, kidnapping of Maduro, war with Iran, and slaughter of countless schoolchildren.

Haven't been able to provide anyone with health care.

But if you were to talk to DSA and their professional managerial class left, they act extremely smug as if they've accomplished something.

Yeah, that's what I always want to ask.

What the fuck have they accomplished?

Oh, we got Mamdani and New.

What the fuck does that do?

How does that help anyone do anything?

What does that even do?

Momdani is

Well, Momdani's successors are gonna promote socialism.

No, they're not!

Mom Donnie needed a fucking bailout!

From New York State!

He took, what, five billion dollars?

You know how easy that is to turn into a fucking right-wing talking point to nuke the credibility of socialism in this country forever?

They have an unearned sense of superiority to anyone advocating for the left in the US to do something.

They're working on shifting the Overton window while building nothing, and the worst part is the progressive left sees nothing wrong with this.

In fact, they continue to pat themselves on the back all the time while lecturing working-class people who dare challenge their failed strategy of operating the genocidal party.

They think success is watching their favorite streamers like Piker becoming millionaires.

U.S.

left is complete trash.

Amen to that.

Literally, amen to that, straight up.

No, it's so fucking true.

Hold on, what?

Can I?

What's going on?

Important work.

Uh exposing the nascent Red-Brown Alliance.

And he's like, oh my god, bruh.

What's the joke?

Is he if it's a parody?

Oh, it is a parody.

Wait, it is a parody, right?

This account is funded by the National Endowment for Democracy.

Ah, but you know what?

They're probably like a parapolitics guy that hates us, right?

There's no way they're based.

They probably hate us.

Do they hate us?

Yeah.

Bro, I'm not gonna lie there.

He's funny.

I don't.

Okay, he probably fucking.

I don't want to look into what he said about us because then I'm going to hate him.

He goes, hey, the Cabernacle, I've enjoyed your videos, but I have to push back on the Graham Plattner left.

Why not the social democratic left who came of age during the Obama during the Obama administration?

That said, we're all hoping that Gavin Newsom will get the nomination.

Bro, this guy's irony posting.

He's like the Joe Keskold guy.

Oh my God, you guys can't see it.

How do you guys not find this shit fucking hilarious?

I'm dying.

Bro, he's baiting Hassan Piker.

He's baited us on Piker.

Hi, comrade.

I typically enjoy your advocacy, but you clearly know very little about LA politics, and I don't think you should be using your platform to opine publicly like this.

Bro what?

Shake it.

Bro, he's baiting everybody.

Even I got baited.

Hmm.

Yeah.

Bro, who is this guy?

Hey, the Cabernacle.

I've enjoyed your videos, but I have to push back on your latest upload about Israeli tourists.

Why single out Israeli conscripts who go on vacation and not, for example, South Korean?

Was this bid needed when anti-Semitism is rising in the West?

Yeah.

They keep re the Cabernacle guy fucking hates us.

I know that.

He's like, I'm British guy.

He's like, Jackson Hinkle is a.

I don't even know what he said.

Okay.

Will you tech fear piker?

No.

Even though, you know, he's actually fucking so emotional about us.

Let me show you some shit.

Uh to my ACP friends, Hasan Piker is not your friend.

Do not be fooled.

So he's liking tweets that are calling us CIA, even though he knows we're not.

All right, look, you want to know why Piker is doing this?

He's gotten pissed off about us because so many of you have been attacking him over his Democrat cheapdogging and he feels betrayed.

He says, Well, the left flank keeps attacking me.

And then he also wants to pin the blame on us because his real left flank, his left liberal flank, I should say, is attacking him.

Also, Bad Empanana is attacking him.

He's feeling a lot of pressure.

And he would love to kind of just be like, well, let's just blame ACP.

So, you know, it's like, you know, Hassan Piker, it's like the Katy Perry song, you're hot and you're cold, you know?

He just can't make his mind up about the ACP.

It's like the Katy Perry song, you know, because you're hot and you're cold, you're yes, then you're no.

You're in, then you're out.

You're up, then you're down.

This is I think this is an emotional lashing out type of thing.

He is genu 'cause he is act do you say what you say what you will about him, he's genuinely like actually like upset.

And uh you know.

Why am I not gonna tech fear him?

I'll tell you why I don't tech fear him.

Um because

I think maybe he could come around.

Eventually.

Maybe.

You know?

It would be very awkward and strange for him to do that in a way.

Because it would be like, you know, he's died on this hill for so long, suddenly he's pivoting, but it's like.

I don't know.

I think, I don't know, guys.

I am a very intuitive person.

Admit it's because he's a Middle Eastern man who goes to the gym.

It's not even that, it's even more parochial and like ethnic.

It's because I found out he's an Olivi.

Actually, I'm going to ask Grock.

If he's not Olivi, then fuck him.

Then he can burn in hell.

Is Hassan Piker is Hassan Piker Elavi descent?

No He's not?

Why did Chat GBZ tell me he is?

Alright, he can go to hell.

He's not LV.

The only thing, the only thing, I thought he was Kizzlebosh.

He's not.

There are no credible elements.

He's of LAVI descent.

Oh my god.

So he's not.

All right, he gets no affirmative action from me anymore.

That's the end of that.

No more affirmative action.

Maybe he is though.

His name is Hassan.

Could he be Alovi?

Hold on, could he be L A V?

Let's ask could he be?

He could, but it's highly unlikely.

Parental side

Uh per uh they were they existed but not dominant.

Killis is not a core LEV region.

It's more associated with.

Okay.

He's not Olivi.

Oh my god, what the fuck?

All right, no more affirmative action.

No more affirmative action, all right?

No, in all seriousness, it's uh

It's intuition.

Let's just say it's intuition.

Let's just say, okay, how about I just say this?

I'm not sure

mystically inclined person and uh

I have

Let's just say I have certain

I have certain types of information that suggest Piker might eventually be won over.

Not a guarantee, but.

There are certain

Predictions

I don't know.

I don't know.

I'm a very intuitive person.

It makes sense to me that this could happen.

And I have also.

I have reason to believe it is possible.

See, for example.

You guys need to understand how I move.

This is how I move.

Like for example, Nick Fuentes.

The reason why, when I first talked to Nick Fuentes for one time and then never again.

There was the time where I would talk to Zerka, and then Zerka just brought him, and I didn't even know he was going to be there.

And, you know, I had to maneuver and.

You know, be diplomatic, because I had no pretext for war at the time.

Uh I would have debated him, but I had no pretext to go to war with him.

And I am a fair person, I'll just declare war without a sufficient pretext.

But in any case, uh

I immediately knew that war was inevitable.

I knew it.

Day one I knew it was inevitable.

I said, okay, this guy Nick Fuentes, eventually there's going to be a massive confrontation.

I knew it.

And uh that's why I never I had all these opportunities to get so much clout, collaborate again, yada yada never, never.

I said he's bad news.

And I just did my own thing.

I was like, this guy's bad news.

So I have these like intuitions.

I also there's also other indicators and stuff that I'm not gonna even talk about because, you know, peo I don't I don't I don't like having to justify and explain to myself that I'm this mystical person and shit.

Shit works for me.

But uh I think it could make sense that Hassan Piker eventually

does join in an alliance with us eventually.

Maybe, maybe, maybe not.

Could he sustain a war could Hassan Piker go to war with us?

No.

Do I think Hassan Piker would want a war with us?

No.

I don't.

I can clock him very accurately as someone who.

Would not be interested in that because

He is not fundamentally

Against us, fundamentally.

He attacked first.

Hassan Spiker's crimes against us are very casual, reckless.

Dismissals

They are things of that nature.

Um

But is there a fundamental antagonism from his side?

No.

Actually, that's why his whole shtick is that he thinks the fundamental antagonism is coming from us

And he this is his way of quote unquote defending himself.

Are you talking about Nick Fuenters, yeah.

Predict the son will be like Trotsky because he's a flipper.

Um

I I struggle to hate Tusan Piker.

It's not it's very difficult for me to hate him.

I think that the worst crime he can be accused of is ignorance.

And in some cases, empty headedness.

But malicious dishonesty is not really malicious dishonesty.

I haven't experienced that yet.

Maybe that could he doesn't strike me as this conniving, you know,

You know how you know he's not a conniving, maliciously dishonest person?

Because he does yell and get angry.

He does visibly get angry.

It kinda reminds me of myself in ways, you know, sometimes.

He gets angry, he loses his temper, he actually fucking gets pissed.

He wants to confront the things that piss him off directly head on.

Um he doesn't ha I haven't seen the eunuch-like maneuvering from him.

He has eunuchs on his side who manoeuvre on his behalf for certain, but I don't see the eunuch like manoeuvring.

From him.

I do see there are moral shortcomings.

I see there are all sorts of shortcomings.

But are they enough to inspire hatred from me?

No.

I think he's severely misguided and I think he is very uh he's missing the the ball, so to speak.

You know, he just doesn't really get it.

Treatment through DEI and affirmative action at the expense of white and Asian Americans.

Socioeconomic conditions is a cope, and everyone knows it.

Yes.

Correct.

I mean, this is the Elon Musk style.

No, they are genetically inferior, and socioeconomic conditions are a cope.

They are.

It's a fact.

Of course, we're going to be watching this video as well from The Birdman.

The Birdman, right?

Treatment through DEI and affirmative action at the expense of white and Asian Americans.

Socioeconomic conditions is a cope, and everyone knows it.

Yes.

Correct.

I mean, this is the Elon Musk style.

No, they are genetically inferior, and socioeconomic conditions are a cope.

They are.

It's a fact.

Oh, oh, I read that as said.

Okay, to be fair, I wanna I wanna say because that's fucking crazy.

I think what he's saying is he's saying the socioeconomic conditions are a cope.

Is he saying they are to the genetically inferior thing?

That would be fucking crazy if he was.

But

'Cause I I I heard it the first time, I was like, what the fuck?

And then I I'm listening to a second time and I'm like I mean this is the the Elon Musk style.

No, they are genetically inferior and socioeconomic conditions are a cope.

They are.

Maybe he's talking about the cope part.

I don't know.

That's fucking crazy.

It's a fact.

Of course, we're going to be watching this video as well.

That's fucking crazy.

You know, I would say, you know, oh, you know, um.

Free speech, yada yada yada.

But Asmund Gold has called for Hassan Piker to be deplatformed over alleged support for terrorism, which means he wants me to be deplatformed because I do actually say Hamas are based openly.

And then Asmund Gold has also, you know, he supported US military actions in Venezuela and so fuck him, basically, you know, and uh don't give a shit.

Don't give a shit if he gets deplatformed.

Uh he was showing it was just games, he's whack now.

Yeah, I mean, he's fucking retarded.

They're all retarded.

Like, he's officially, like, gay, but in a non-homophobic sense.

But he's officially, like, fucking cringe because, um.

You know, he is like denouncing all this terrorism.

Terrorism.

Bro, shut the fuck up.

Fuck are you talking about?

Oh, that it's support for terrorism.

He'd been trying to break into the establishment his whole life, he's finally making inroads there.

I don't see how he'd abandon his life's work for an explicitly communist org.

Okay, you got okay, I've explained this many, many times.

Hassan Piker eventually might join with us or in a coalition with us.

Not because he's going to abandon his current trajectory for us.

That's retarded.

That will never happen.

I understand that.

But what's going to happen is that.

What's going to potentially happen is that he fails to break into the establishment because he's died on the hill of positions that the Democrat mainstream will ultimately judge as too radical.

He will be kicked out of the Democratic Party and then decide and realize that we do have to build something from scratch, and he will potentially recognize the ACP as.

Once you break with the Democrats, you're basically with the ACP, you know?

And he'll be like, fuck it, the ACP were right.

You know, that could be like one of the scenarios where he at least.

starts to uh promote us more, you know?

But the moment the Democrats kick him out, that's gonna be the yeah, I mean, of course he's gonna do everything he can.

Also, you understand from his point of view,

Um, I'll tell you Hassan Piker's point of view.

Piker's point of view is basically that he's under attack within the Democratic Party by centrists and by people to his right, and that he doesn't want to abandon the battle.

He wants, you know, he wants to continue because he feels like this is a war, it's a battle.

And he has a chance of winning it or something, and he'll have to learn the hard way how it really works.

So it's actually, can I tell you guys?

Be happy Hassan is so openly getting involved in politics now.

Because the more he digs his feet into the Democratic Party,

And the more he's gonna have to maintain his track record of all the radical shit he's ever said and positions he's held.

The more he eventually he's gonna have to

Break with the Democrats.

They're going to force them out.

Piker will be forced out of the Democratic Party.

And this was never possible until now.

Because up until now, he was just a commentator.

Up until now, all he was fucking doing was, you know, commentating.

Now he's getting involved.

He's getting involved.

He's going to learn how it works from the ground.

You know?

That's my prediction.

Piker is eventually gonna realize the error of his ways.

I also think this is retarded.

Vivek who is hated on X won, Massey who is loved on X lost.

Politics on X is just not reality.

I disagree because I think that the electorate for the primaries is just not representative.

Of

The potential electorate.

It's just that simple.

Now why in the fuckin' world would my camera freeze at this moment at this time?

I mean

Like what the fuck is going on?

Yeah, I disagree w I know a lot of people say this shit, it's just not true.

Like if you put it if you get something new and energetic and yet, you know

You gotta you gotta have the right electorate.

You can't just s put yourself in a Republican or Democrat silo.

You gotta cut across the bipartisan lines.

If you wanna win the ex-populist demographic, you have to cut across partisan lines, 100%.

Can't just confine yourself to registered Republican boomer pedophiles, you just can't.

You know I'm gonna tuck fear every fucking senile

Televangel victim, mind slave victim.

I would have come out sooner, but I had to call my opponent and concede, and it took a while to find Ed Galrain in Tel Aviv.

I did get the call through, though.

I have called and conceded the race.

We've been honorable the whole time, and we're going to stay that way.

I would have come out.

Wee-hee.

Shin!

Fooks like to win a congressional election?

Amila, what the fuck?

What's up with the 10?

What's going on, Amila?

Appreciate you.

This guy this guy fucking always shitting on us, attacking us.

You wanna see what it looks like to win a congressional election?

This guy got too excited in the moment.

So it's ACP or it's just this Democrat tap dancing

Holy shit.

That's just like so embarrassing.

Oh, apparently we're LARPers and that's like that's real.

That's real revolutionary praxis.

Country.

One of the things the president has done very effectively, going back 10 years in his leadership of the Republican Party and the country as President of the United States, is he said, you know, I want people who fight for I'm done.

I'm done.

I'm done.

I'm done.

I mean, it's it's early, it's too soon to tell, but god damn it!

Fuck you!

Fuck you, Democratic primary voters!

Fuck you!

What?

What the hell is going on?

It's three percent, I know.

I don't need what three percent where?

Oh, three percent of the votes in.

That means five thousand three hundred and seventeen Kentucky primary voters were like, Oh my god, Amy McGrath, that's awesome.

She

Let's see who won.

Oh, Booker One.

Ah, Booker One.

Ah.

That was the Senate primary.

Alright, guys, ones if you remember when I made the prediction that progressive Democrats were gonna fucking win big time.

Remember when I made that prediction?

Who remembers?

Yup, remember when I said that?

Pretty interesting.

I did say that.

I did say that.

Yes, I did say that.

Yes, I did say it.

Yes, I did predict it.

Yes, I did say it.

And y'all were not paying attention when I said that shit.

Y'all were yawning and were fucking getting bored and shit.

I was going on this whole spiel, and y'all were like, Haz, come on, why don't you just keep yelling and shit?

Bro, I predicted that shit with precision.

I thought Jennifer was gonna dictate the stream.

I know, where it would happen.

Next stream.

I don't even think Jennifer's here.

I think Jennifer is not here because she's like, I don't want to have to plan Oz's stream.

I don't want this pressure.

She's going to take a break.

Jennifer is here but she's been hiding, you see she's been hiding.

I knew it because it's like saying the next stream is yours to decide, it's also kind of like a a form of work you're just imposing on someone, you know.

Um

I'm uh retweeting my base tweet.

I hope I hope what if I do ratio AOC?

What if I ratio AOC?

How sick would that be?

If I ratioed Alexandria Ocasio Cortez.

Are you afraid China will liberalize?

No.

I'm afraid

That if here's what I'm afraid of.

I'll tell you what I'm afraid of, all right?

What I'm afraid of is that if China

Forgets the founding revolutionary mission.

If the next generation passes, or when the next generation passes, and the new generation is not sufficiently spiritually prepared.

Because currently there are people who are alive now who remember the Long March, okay?

If the memory of China's revolutionary history is not properly, the torch is not passed to the next generations the right way.

What will happen is not that China will liberalize, it will balkanize.

And that's what you have to be scared of.

The USSR didn't liberalize, it balkanized.

That's the thing you have to be scared of.

Always.

Now, there's something I want to talk about.

Um

Um okay, so

I find myself in such a strange position.

I'm just so misunderstood.

I'm just so misunderstood, honestly.

People think I'm a sectarian ideologist.

I'm not.

I'm not a sick.

I've never been a sectarian ideologist.

I've always been firm about where I fucking stand.

In fact, the majority of all Marxist ideologists in America and in the West, and online and on the internet, sometimes we pay homage, we pay tribute to the Jason Unruhs and the Finn Bulls, and we shouldn't because those people fucking didn't do anything.

That's right.

Majority of Marxists Online

are fucking Pharisees.

They're gatekeeping Pharisees.

They are gatekeeping Pharisees.

And my position is so complicated and complex.

Because you know when Bernie had that populist movement, the left wing populist momentum in twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, my position was not, oh, you know, this is not the true

Communism, this is no, my position was.

The momentum needs to be taken forward.

It needs to be radicalized forward.

Not ideologically.

Like Hassan keeps strawmanning us.

Well, in order to educate people about Leninist theory, mind you, the Bolsheviks did not lead.

Through theoretical Marxist education first.

They led with peace, land and bread.

Peasants were still fucking doing pogr the Red Army peasants still were doing pogroms.

They still were like, yeah, we fucking hate Jews and shit.

But they were still fighting for the Bolsheviks and in the Red Army.

The mass movement that the Bolsheviks led was not one where everyone was educated about Marxist theory.

Okay?

But it was a movement.

It was a revolutionary movement that the Bolsheviks alone gave leadership to.

And it's like to me, Marxist gatekeepers, Marxist gatekeepers have always retarded the movement.

They've always just put these ideological terms and conditions on it, crucifying it on the cross of some ideology that doesn't even fucking exist.

Like when Hassan goes, most of the masses still self-ID with liberalism, or they still self-ID with social democracy.

Why are we pretending an ideology is in command of any of this shit?

Don't reduce anything to an ideology.

Accept the logic of a mass yearning for something new.

Accept the logic of a mass uprising.

Don't reduce it to an ideal.

Don't reduce it to any ideology.

It's not speaking the language of some internet online LARP identity.

The Pharisees, they're putting us in this prison of ideology where every fucking step, every breath the masses take, has to be stamped with the mark of some comprehensive ideological principle.

But the truth is,

The masses speak a different language than the language of bourgeois intelligentsia.

They speak a different language.

There's a different logic that's in command of the development of mass politics.

And

The whole point of Lenin and Leninism was to break out of the Phariseitical, Social Democrat, Orthodox Marxism.

and opened the door to the hungry revolutionary masses.

That's what Lenin did in October.

And Marxism Leninism.

was supposed to be

testament to the fact that Marxism is a living science.

You know?

That these Pharisees, these Kotskys and others, these fucking gatekeepers

Stalin called him Talmudus for the record.

They have no authority to dictate the terms and conditions of the development of the revolutionary process or of how Marxism must adapt across new ages.

And it's like Marxism-Leninism to me was the invasion from the future of a completely different principle of logos than the Eurocentric kind of classical modern metaphysics, Anglo-Saxon metaphysics, which the Orthodox Marxists time and time again have always tried to reduce Marxism to.

A ceiling of metaphysics and dogmatism.

And it's like Marxism-Leninism is the opening from the future, a chasm in time itself, to a kind of schizophrenic, mimeological, unconscious dimension.

That is far more profound than can be contained by an ideology.

Marxism-Leninism.

Is a symptom of a more fundamental and radical opening to the absolute.

The reason why Marxism-Leninism sounds complicated, Marxism, Leninism, Mao Zedong thought, all these different addendums to the fundamental core principle are the fact.

of this

Eclecticism is a symptom of the fact.

That in some sense

Marxists have conceived the original principle wrongly.

They have conceived it ideally, beginning with orthodox Marxism and social democracy.

They have comprehended it metaphysically.

They've anglo boxed it, so to speak.

And Marxism-Leninism represented an escape from this box.

But how Westerners interpreted Marxism-Leninism is that they just made it a bigger box.

The way Marxism-Leninism expanded the horizon of Marxism, fundamentally revolutionizing it, right?

It was like an expansion of the horizon out of the box of Orthodox Marxism.

But in the West, what did they do?

They just made the box bigger, but nonetheless, a big box.

And so they became these gatekeepers.

They turned Marxism Leninism into Orthodox Marxism two point zero.

You know who the biggest bastard criminals, the most guilty, corrupt, antichrist

Scum in today's world who do this.

The Greeks, the Communist Party of Greece, the leadership of that party.

They have turned Marxism-Leninism.

into a type of metaphysical idealism.

They have confused principle for idealism.

And Lenin tried to break out of the prison of Orthodox Marxism.

What they have done in turn and restore the status of Marxism as a living science.

And what the Communist Party of Greece and other Western Marxist Leninists do, doesn't matter, whatever sect they belong to, doesn't matter.

They try to reconstruct this prison.

Using the very things that expanded Marxism as reinforcement of its walls, to make the prison even stronger, so to speak.

These people have not contributed to anything, anything to history, nothing.

They've contributed nothing.

The Communist Party of Greece got outflanked by Syriza.

Just a decade ago.

Chavismo happened, that had nothing to do with Western Marxism, Leninism.

And in America, these people have fucking done nothing and accomplished nothing.

Oh, they're just fucking gatekeepers trying to impose special terms and conditions upon mass politics and revolution.

They don't understand Lenin.

They don't comprehend anything about the nature of revolutionary change on objective terms.

They are metaphysicians and idealists.

This dude hates the Greeks.

I actually don't hate them.

I just hate.

I hate the Communist Party of Greece a lot.

There's a lot of good based Greeks for sure.

There's a lot of really b Halali's Greek.

Okay, there's a lot of based Greeks though.

There's a lot.

Trust me.

I've met them in Russia.

There's a lot of based ones.

The problem is the Communist Party of Greece.

They've always been on my shit list.

And by the way, as much as I shit on Plato and shit on the Greek philosophers all the fucking time, Heraclitus and stuff.

You know, there's still my foundation.

Even if to articulate.

An alternative to them.

I have no point of reference except them, so how could I really hate them?

You know, it's kind of stupid.

But in any case, this this kind of relationship is one of affection.

It's not one of hatred.

That's what I mean to say.

Complicated affection.

Even Heraclitus has a dark twin who has never been.

Given time and the sun, so to speak.

But in any case, uh what is I trying to say?

Leftists, or I should say, ideological leftists.

I remember the Bernie phenomena in 2015.

Fuck Bernie Sanders, forget Bernie Sanders.

I remember the ambiguous atmosphere of left-wing populism that got immediately reduced to the terms and conditions of ideological metaphysics by leftists across the spectrum.

Oh, is this social democracy?

Is it Marxism?

Is it Marxism-Leninism?

Is it Trotskyism?

It's like, in a way, it's none of those things.

The first thing that exists is the material fact of mass discontent.

And the way signifiers form authentically.

has nothing to do with the metaphysics of ideologies.

Marxism, Leninism used to mean something.

The way that it's been translated to the Internet in Western contexts has turned it into something that is devoid of meaning.

For the most part.

When I say I'm a Marxist-Leninist, I don't say I'm a Marxist-Leninist in the sense that the Communist Party of Greece does.

I say I'm a Marxist-Leninist in the sense of rediscovering what that used to actually mean by way of a new encounter with the sacred and with the absolute, which Mao, which Lenin, which Stalin all had taken for granted.

And I'm the only Marxist-Leninist who goes to Russia and goes to China and witnesses their monuments and understands them.

And I I had there's no friction between the so-called principle and the reality.

For Western Marxist-Leninists, they go and see Marxist-Leninist civilizations and they have cognitive dissonance.

They're like, oh, this isn't what I imagined and expected.

Me, what I see is exactly what I imagine.

It's exactly what I expected.

It makes perfect sense.

Because I understand the unconscious language that gives meaningfulness to what Marxism-Leninism is.

It's not just a bunch of vague ideological pledges of allegiance based on the recitation of phrases and slogans.

And recall that Marx, Engels and Lenin explicitly hated what they called phrase mongers, people who just dwelled and lived in phrases.

They hated these fucking people, right?

They wanted nothing more than to distinguish themselves from them.

Hmm.

Debates tonight.

Yep.

We'll do about thirty minutes of debates.

All right.

Once if it works now.

All right.

Who wants to see the forum?

Okay, choose if you want to see the forum.

Tuesday if you want to see the ACP forum.

You do want to see it.

Okay, I'll show it on stream.

Alright, I'll show you the form.

Jennifer said new mic.

I know, but it's gonna take a little longer than just one day to get a new mic.

Gotta order it, you know?

Also, I don't think the mic is the problem, actually.

I think it's the software.

I think it's like a software setting.

Wow, there's a lot of people on TikTok who think I'm talking to them or care about them.

Let's go back to them.

D P R K Life.

Yo, are you a supporter or an enemy?

Hello.

Haz Altine.

I am an anti-communist.

I want you to debate me.

I want you to turn the age of

something more than fifteen years old and then

Get off the internet until you're 18 and then stop talking.

Stop going on random.

This guy's he's branded as a DPRK supporter.

And he's like, I am an anti communist.

It's like, bro, can we just stop?

Like only in the West does this shit exist.

Like only in the West do we have this level of like

Now, why can't I oh, here's the forum.

Okay, I didn't show you the forum.

Um, I'll show you the form.

The form is cool as fuck.

Oh, I can't swear.

Alright.

I feel like the forum is just like

Let's just show like the top posts.

Um all right.

So, who wants to see the forum?

First of all, the forum is pretty like active.

Um straight up.

It's like actually quite active.

It's like

Uh Corey, I'll I'll get you in in a second.

So it's pretty good.

Mean like

It's pretty cool, you know?

These are just the top posts in the past two days.

But uh

It's fun.

I'll just show you my posts.

I'll show you my post.

First of all, here's my profile.

Here's my profile.

And I love I love using this form.

I just use it.

So I give so somebody made a cool post about, you know, swarm drone warfare and stuff.

I made a pretty long post about my thoughts about like, you know.

Why tank warfare is coming to an end?

What that could possibly mean?

The rise of drones and swarm intelligence and AI and stuff.

I like to make thoughtful small posts.

Somebody asked about, could we ban reserves from representing us?

I tried to explain that's not how the internet works.

All we could do is just prevent impersonation and be clear about where we stand on things mainly and just call out infiltrators when we can, people who are like bad faith actors.

You know who made a really cool post is Rev, right?

Rev.

Rev made a post about, you know, abstract time in the Vanguard.

So he's talking about how time changes with the rise of capitalism.

Pretty interesting stuff.

So it's like everything that we would want from Reddit and X is baked into this forum.

The forum has been ready for a long time.

We had a working prototype before the new year, as we promised.

But you notice something about the forum: there's like no glitches and no bugs that are reported so far.

So, Christian, really, you have to shout out Christian for getting this shit done, okay?

And just getting it to work well.

I mean, this works as a fully-fledged, independent type of social media, which works really well.

And uh it's super cool.

So, you know, thank Christian for this and uh shout out Christian for getting it done.

Somebody, you know, somebody suggested a uh that they wanted

A type of clothing.

I don't, I don't really.

I don't know about this.

It's a little too retro.

I don't know.

Also, the new globe is way better.

But people like it.

It's like, what can I say?

This is a very strange photo of me.

So yeah.

You know, so that's the form basically.

If you're in the party and you're not in the forum yet, I don't know what you're doing.

It's like a I check it all the time.

Me and Carlos are using it out of the EB.

Me, Carlos, probably use it the most.

I'm always on it, though.

Like every time I'm on my phone, I just like, it's just one of those apps.

You just honestly, what I love about the forum is that I love how there's just like a dedicated place just for us as a party.

And there's a sense where there's just like a togetherness of the whole party across the nation, just being together across chapters, across all the hierarchy, across all the distinctions.

It's really nice actually, you know?

It's it's really helped solidify the sense of

uh cohesion and solidarity within the party, to be honest.

I, it's, and obviously, we're all very surprised by how bustling and active it is.

We thought maybe people won't use it.

Christian was worried about that.

So, guys, don't ever get tired of it or bored of it.

Keep using it.

Keep fucking.

And I know you want to use it.

The demand is there.

I want to use it.

I'm not just using it because I want to keep it alive.

Like, I genuinely have been craving our own thing like this.

Which is just ACP members, none of these other ankle biters and freaks that we have to deal with.

And it's just like we all get to just talk to each other and be in the same safe space.

You know, super cool actually.

Um, so it's just like super and it's yeah, it's fun to use.

It's just like it's what we've been waiting for.

It was a really good idea, it was very well executed, you know.

All right, some we got some let's check TikTok and see who's requesting.

Somebody named Corey was requesting.

I'll let them go up, but this is just the DPRK-like guy.

Let's read some of the TikTok comments.

On TikTok.

Host is a okay.

What do you think about the claim that Michael Hudson is a Trotskyite?

It's always been unfounded nonsense.

Corey, go ahead.

Mm-hmm.

When you're asking the opposite of the forum.

Well, the thing about the forum, uh, sorry, I'm gonna end just answering this question.

The forum is not like hidden per se, but it's also just not it's just like a barrier to entry.

Like, you know, not everyone can join it and be there.

Are we hiding things on it?

Not really, you know, but yeah, that's kind of the thing.

Anyway, go ahead, Corey.

Yeah, so I was m um, so if you can the if the ACP supports Zionism, I'll become communist.

If if ACP supports Zionism, well we don't, so I don't know what to tell you.

Why don't you guys support Zionism?

You know what's interesting about the state of the country is that I just don't even feel like I need to have this conversation with you.

I feel like the country's split down the middle 50-50, like 50%, or at least I think it's 80-20, really.

80% understand why communist pig.

Don't even do that.

Come on, man.

Just have a debate with me.

You're running.

I don't need to have any kind of conversation.

I'm going to be on Zionism, bro.

You guys don't know anything about Zionism or Israel.

You guys are brainwashed by media.

Okay, well, you can say that.

Well, there's nothing you can say that's going to make Zionism discursively one-state solution Zionist right here, guys.

Fuck communism.

Oh, yeah, you're truly a contrarian.

You're truly a contrarian.

You're truly a contrarian.

You're a communist pig.

You're a piggy.

Okay.

Look at your nose, bro.

You have like one of those are you Russian?

Are you Eastern um European?

Fucking long ass topics.

Yeah, get it all out.

You're such a contrarian.

You're such a funny child.

You got the whole squad laughing, bro.

You got the whole squad laughing.

Bro, you got the whole squad laughing, bro.

This is so funny.

Let's debate about Zionism.

Bro, it's so funny.

You can't debate about Zionism.

I gotta go, uh, I gotta restrict it.

Okay, he ran away.

He left.

My visibility got restricted, as always.

My visibility just got restricted.

But he ran away 'cause he's scared.

He ran away.

Conrad says the ACP is pro-Trump.

It's just like not something a human being would say.

Okay, we got Cape 6500.

Go ahead.

Yes, so the question is.

Um I think I'm echoing.

Okay.

So why w were like uh the average American citizen like what's lacking in their lives?

Like why sh

Go ask CNN for an interview.

I don't know why you're talking to me about interviewing about America.

Go ahead, the.

Hello?

Yeah, another non-American.

That's great.

Yeah, the Democrats are more revolutionary than you.

How does that feel?

How does that feel?

You you literally have an anime profile picture.

You're not even human.

I don't know why you're talking to me.

Uh we got an edge lord here.

Oh my god, I'm a big fan of you.

You have anything else to say?

When are you coming to Chicago?

I always go to Chicago.

Shit, pull up.

I would love to come to one of those festivals or protests, whatever.

Are anything else?

No, you have a good day.

Okay, have a good day.

Um

Mm-hmm.

This guy named his uh Jail, whatever his name is, Grass.

Hello.

I've heard of you.

I don't really know anything about the ACP.

I just don't understand the appeal of communism at all.

If you had to like summarize what your party is trying to achieve in like one or two sentences, what would you say?

We're trying to achieve rooting out the fundamental cancer that is holding the people of this nation back from realizing their truest and fullest potential.

What is the cancer?

The rule and reign of the capitalist class and the

Private interest that we call.

A dictatorship of profit.

Okay.

I probably have too many questions, so I'm going to let somebody else speak because I wouldn't really know where to start asking.

Okay.

Third Observer, what's up, man?

Appreciate you.

What's up, Third Observer?

Appreciate you.

Joseph, go ahead.

Yo

You like your Marxism, bro?

I'm niggerism, bro.

What's going on with you?

Alright, TikTok's gonna ban me, so I gotta end the live.

It's over.

Live is over.

I'm probably gonna get banned.

Uh unless I end it right now.

So there we go.

That's just Larry Ellison's censorship.

If this will do anything to salvage this small account, that doesn't even matter.

No, I'm good.

There's like how d am I responsible for that?

Does TikTok hold me responsible for that?

Teepo with the five, what's up, man?

Does TikTok hold me responsible?

Like, can I like appeal it?

They are gonna, they're de they're automatically, it's gonna be automated.

But is there a way to be um if you kicked him immediately?

But I did that last time, I got banned for five days.

I got banned for five days.

Okay, you can appeal.

Hey, I'm just gonna appeal it then, you know.

I'm sure I'll be fine.

I'll just appeal it.

There needs to be a built-in delay so you can drop them before it gets through.

How does that work though?

Think about it.

Like, all the delay could do is that I drop them and end the live right away.

But, like, how could I prevent it from getting through, you know?

It's just you know, honestly, I can't even be upset.

It's like um these people, it's like when you go on public transportation and you have mentally ill people that just scream and stuff.

It's just how America is.

You just have to get used to it.

Kay though desperately wants.

Ah, he th he he desperately wants to get his peace in.

What do you want, you British, neat?

Eat.

Yo, has, why you scared of me, bro?

Just calm down, bruh.

Not that scary, bro.

I just don't care about people who put beans on toast and our needs.

Mm, so you're xenophobic.

Interesting, interesting.

Yeah, I am.

Interesting.

That's not very communist of you, is that?

Yeah, it is actually.

It's called uh Rootless Cosmopolitanism.

Look it up.

Mm sounds like Judeo-communism to me.

No.

How does it feel to be like the communist version of Elon Musk, bro, 'cause it's basically what you are, innit?

Well I'd like to have the money to justify that accusation for sure.

I mean, yeah, you you do want the money, don't ya?

Who's paying you then?

Literally Jennifer.

Yeah, Jennifer, Xi Jinping, you know, yeah, yeah.

No, literally I'm getting paid by people right now watching me.

Mm why is the communist getting paid?

Sounds capitalist.

No, it's not actually.

These are a prototypical form of labor vouchers described by Marx in the Critique of the Gotha program.

Look it up.

So so labor is when you sit on TikTok Live, yeah?

Nice.

Nope, they're labor vouchers for sure though.

Yeah.

Totally bro, totally.

Yeah, this is why liberalism is based.

But where does liberalism actually exist anymore?

Mm most con most of the Western liberalism is dead.

No.

It's dead.

And it's even the consistent liberals have to admit that liberalism is dead.

Doesn't exist anymore.

More successful than communism.

What?

More successful than communism.

Outlived the USSR.

How how many people lived in the USSR?

Uh quite a few to be fair.

How many people live in China?

Quite a few to be fair.

Um what's the comparison?

In comparison to what's the world's most powerful economy right now?

Uh America.

Really?

Okay.

Who can make more ships per year?

America or China?

Who can build more things per year?

Let's talk about real economics.

I mean, sure, who can make cheaper and worse quality stuff?

Okay, let's go.

It's so worse quality that we were not even allowed to have the cell phones and stuff that they make in my country.

They have to do the very liberal thing and ban the products that come from China.

Based, based, based.

Yeah, it's so liberal, right?

Mm yeah, I support that though, 'cause fucking why would you want a Chingx phone?

Huh?

There we go.

Yeah, I'm gonna win by just uh by censorship.

I'm just gonna censor this person.

That makes me win.

You automatically forfeit your manhood when you uh hide behind Larry Ellison's censorship.

Immediately lose.

He th he he said, I I support liberalism, but I also want to ban the free market selectively.

So how is it where's the liberalism then?

It's dead.

There's no consistent liberalism.

It's gone.

Doesn't exist.

China's known for their censorship.

Okay, well China doesn't claim to be liberal now, does it?

Yeah, too lazy to debate so resorts to bad words.

Complaining about censorship while you actively advocate for it.

If I lived in a country where words meant something, I wouldn't exist anymore because the politicians that are accountable to the public would actually have to deliver.

There would be no need for me to be in the public eye expressing my views in the way that I do.

We would already be living in a competent civilization.

So, there's no hypocrisy.

If we lived in a country where censorship could be justified by the fact that words even mean something in the first place.

There would be no need for me to be in public.

Yeah, we have free speech in a country where words mean nothing.

Congratulations.

It's just such a pain in the ass.

How am I gonna post my hype edits and aura edits if I get banned, you know?

I don't want a debate, I want a discussion, I am a revolutionary socialist.

But to be fair, you have a hundred and fifty six followers, so

I'm just saying, it's like why what makes you special?

I want to debate Marxism-Leninist with you.

Then request!

Like, who is stopping you from requesting?

Literally, just request.

I got seven thousand votes.

Okay.

You can request two then if you got seven thousand votes.

No, I believe you, whatever.

It's it's a very strange thing to lie about.

Elizabeth, go ahead.

How do I request I don't know.

Go ahead, Elizabeth.

Yo?

I don't like that at all.

It's literally a dude with a grandma profile picture.

They're straight up gonna drop the N-word.

100% they will.

A hundred percent, that's that's somebody looking to drop some slurs.

ZA, what's up?

What's up, brother?

What's going on?

Uh not much, man.

No, you know.

I'm up here now.

What's up?

Talk to me.

Bro, what do you want?

Yo, Jill Are you just screaming at me like that?

He's got the Iceman he's got the Iceman profile picture.

Bro, what do you want?

I want a debate.

About what?

Uh

I wanted to be

About Trump.

All right, I'll let you think about it.

Ale Alejandro, you've been you're Cuban, you've been living under dictatorship for twenty years.

Please join.

Please go ahead, join.

Where is he at?

Uh, oh, he's not joining.

Alejandro request

Sonion Ring.

Go ahead.

Bro, you're genuinely trolling.

About what?

About your fuck ass ideology.

Ow.

Dude, submit communism.

There is no other choice.

Correct.

Correct.

Why?

That's correct.

Because communism is the shape of history.

You have no choice.

The shape of history?

Do you know how long communism has been alive for?

Since the beginning of time.

The beginning of time was a hundred fucking years ago, bro.

You think communism's only been around for a hundred years?

Yeah.

No.

Okay.

No, it has.

Have photons only been around for two hundred years because nobody had a name for it until two hundred years ago?

Get out of here, bruh.

Wait, are you gonna call a traditional economy communist?

Are you actually gonna say that?

You're gonna call a traditional economy communist?

Omnism is literally the thing, the only thing that makes sense of how history has developed forward since the beginning of time.

Explain.

Communism is what you call the log the underlying logic and logos of history.

All historical change is propelled by the underlying fact that mankind truly exists only in a collective dimension.

that is fundamentally common.

to all who live within a given community of labor.

And this common collective this common collective logic is the driving force of all of the changes that happen throughout history as history attempts to conform to the purity of this collective logic.

That was basically just a word Saudi basically just said community means communism.

But the nature of communities themselves are communist.

So you're saying like the nature of community has a communist ideology?

No, I never said anything about ideology.

That comes from Plato.

I never said anything about ideology.

Ideology is just a primitive.

Plato's understanding of the idea was just a primitive attempt to approximate communism.

Plato's Republic is this proto-communistic, you know, it's like it's like the same way the Greeks didn't understand natural science.

They didn't understand communism well either.

But they had they tried to approximate it a little, you know, but they failed.

So so you think that like ever since human mankind was made, we were destined for communism?

Exactly.

So everyone deserves everything.

Who said that?

Uh Marks?

No, he didn't say that.

To each according to his want, to his need, something like that.

According to their ability to each according to their need.

Do you even know what that means?

Yeah, it means you could still have a lot of shit if you're a lazy fuck.

No, it doesn't mean that.

Yeah, it does, bro.

In the Soviet Union, you could not work at all and still get paid as much as someone who works their ass off.

That's not true at all.

I was just saying.

Well, I guess in the Soviet Union, I was just in Russia.

I talked to a lot of people who lived under the Soviet Union.

None of them said any of that.

What did they say?

They said that people who were lazy were punished, and people who didn't work were punished.

When was that?

They said that after the capitalist restoration, the lazy got promoted.

They gobbled up Russia's entire economy.

They don't work.

They don't do anything.

And they're parasites living off the people, living off the nation.

So after the capitalistic restoration?

Yep.

So you think these fat oligarchs are hard workers?

Are you stupid?

So you're saying after a quote capitalistic, what was that restoration?

That lazy people get punished?

No, during communism, the lazy got punished.

Uh are you sure about that?

I'm pretty sure.

Are you sure it was in the

Communist moral code of builders that said he who does not work shall not eat.

It's from Lenin.

From the Bible.

That was l literally American ideology in like the 1800s.

Nope, it's from the Bible and Lenin is the one.

It's from the Bible?

Yeah.

Which Bible?

The Bible.

There's multiple Bibles.

You have to specify.

It does.

Why would it matter though?

It's biblical.

Because there's multiple Bibles.

Okay.

Well, it's the lost Bible of whatever's rabbit hole you've been on.

Who cares?

What lost Bible?

Just define what Bible you're talking about because I have no idea what you're talking about.

I don't know what specific Bible it comes from.

I don't know what the relevancy is.

So you can't even name what Bible it comes.

You know what it came from?

Tell me why it matters.

Tell you so you can back up your claims with evidence, but if you can't even name the source of your evidence, I just said it came from the Bible to kind of say that what Bible?

Well, it doesn't really matter, though.

I mean, the whole key argument here is that Lenin indeed did say that, right?

Are you contesting that Lenin said that?

Because that's the only thing that would actually be decisive in the argument, because the argument is about whether laziness was rewarded or punished.

Well, if Lenin said he who does not work shall not eat, I don't know why I have to specify what Bible that came from.

Because when you say the Bible, I'm just confused which Bible are you talking about?

Uh Thessalonians three ten, two Thessalonians three ten.

That's the Bible?

But what does it ma okay, somebody in the chat tell me what Bible it was so this person could uh bro, you don't even know yourself?

No, I told you I don't know which Bible it's from.

How the fuck would you know it came from a Bible?

Because there's like what three different books in the New Testament and I don't know exactly which one it comes from.

Oh, so you're saying it came from the Holy Bible?

I don't know what you're asking.

What are you looking at?

What do you mean, what Bible?

The Old Testament, the New Testament?

Like, what are you asking?

Like, King James Bible.

Yeah, the King James version.

Okay, you could have just said that.

That's what I was asking.

Why does it matter, though?

What does it have to do with the argument?

I was just wondering what your source was.

No, but that's not the source is about what Lenin said.

Do you understand logic?

If you're saying communists promoted lazy or communists did not punish laziness, and then I say, actually, Lenin said, he who does not work shall not eat.

And, you know, I also added the fun fact.

I also added a fun fact that he's quoting the Bible.

You're like, oh, the source of your argument is the Bible.

No, it's not.

It's from Lenin.

And then he says it came from the Bible.

I was like, okay, what Bible are you talking about?

But then you said the king's.

But it's irrelevant to the argument because the argument is about whether communists promoted laziness or not, not about which Bible Lenin was quoting when he affirmed the fact that communists do punish laziness.

Do you not understand logic?

Can you not track basic logic?

No, I'm just asking what Bible.

It's that simple, honestly.

Like, I'm not going to argue that Lenin didn't say that.

I'm just arguing what Bible that was.

Okay, so you're abandoning the argument that communists...

I am not abandoning the argument.

No, because your original argument was that under communism, everyone can be lazy.

Isn't that what you said?

Yeah, and I still stand by that.

It doesn't matter what Lenin said.

It matters what happened.

Oh, it only matters what Bible it came from, right?

What does that even have to do with the argument?

Because you didn't specify what Bible it came from.

But why would that matter for the actual argument?

Because you can say some bullshit and get away with it if you don't specify what source you're coming from.

Hold on.

If you could be lazy and get away with it, it has something to do with the Bible that Lenin cited?

No.

Yeah, it has no relevancy to the argument.

So thank you for conceding the actual argument.

No, I was just asking what Bible said.

So it doesn't matter what Lenin said.

It doesn't matter what the Soviets enforced.

You're saying that everyone, that lazy people could get just as much as people who worked hard.

When that's actually what you're saying, everyone gets the same paycheck.

Literally, everyone gets the same paycheck because everyone's assigned jobs.

That's not true.

People did not get the same paycheck at any point in the existence of the Soviet Union.

Are you sure about that?

I'm 100% certain and sure.

Hmm.

Even for the same function?

What do you mean for if people were doing the same exact thing, probably they were getting the same paycheck, just like in any job?

Well, no, you could be doing the same function and be getting different payments, but nevertheless, do you think practical comments?

You think in a workplace, if someone's doing the exact same thing that they somehow measure, like if you're an Amazon warehouse worker, you're not getting a base salary or pay.

Like you think that they're like, oh, you work so hard.

I'm just going to arbitrarily keep your same job.

No, well, maybe you'll get promoted, which was also true in the Soviet Union.

But are you just going to be a rewarded more for working harder for most jobs?

No, you're not.

Everyone who's actually had a job knows that.

I'm just saying that you could get paid the same, even if you're working different functions or the same function.

You could get paid differently if you're working the same function.

Explain what you mean by that.

What does a function mean?

A job.

Okay, so if you're working the same job, you can get paid differently?

Uh, yeah.

Uh what what what example are you thinking of when you say that?

Uh like for example an NBA player.

Oh, okay.

Well that actually but the job is not some like standardized it's not really like a like a factory job or something that would be relevant here.

That's a job that's based on your performance.

Yeah, that's more what I mean.

Your performance can dictate yourself.

Do you think NBA players are like representative of the majority of the working class who actually have standardized normal jobs?

I never made that claim ever.

Okay, so we're just talking about NBA players.

Why for what?

No.

You asked for an example.

I gave an example last year.

At no point in the history of the Soviet Union did people get paid the same thing.

What else?

Do you think theoretical communism can be achieved?

What is theoretical communism in your mind?

The definition wrote by Marx.

From each according to their ability to each according to their need, yes.

A little bit more than that.

I'm pretty sure there was more written in his book than that one sentence.

He never outlined a blueprint of a communist system or future.

Yeah, he did.

Workers own the means of production.

That's literally simplified baseline of it.

Yeah, did you learn that from Vosh on BreadTube?

No.

Yeah, because you've never read Marx in your life, and I can tell.

Yeah, because it's a waste of fucking time, in my opinion.

Right.

Marx defined communism only one time in one way: the real movement that sublates the present state of things, whose conditions are now in existence.

That's how he defined it.

He said, communism is not for us an ideal to which the future will have to conform itself.

It is the real movement which sublates the present state of things, the conditions of which are now in existence.

So that's what he said.

So he explicitly rejected the idea of designing a future society according to the whims and fancies of our present consciousness.

Now, if you want to know what communism actually is, you can drop the pretense of actually being an educated person and sit down like the student you are and explain.

No, theoretical communism is literally just workers.

The proletariat own the means of production.

That's the baseline of it.

That's impossible.

How is that impossible?

So, you're saying Marx is flawed?

It is impossible that Marx could have ever said anything like that.

Sit down, boy, and get your education.

Now your teacher is talking.

Now your professor is talking.

You sit down and you get your education.

Bro, he's telling me to sit down.

You're going to sit down and get this lesson from your professor.

You're actually rage baiting.

Oh, my God.

No, no, sit down, boy.

Dude, no one's like ACP is a dying party hole.

Sit down, boy.

How are we dying?

We've grown 300% since our founding.

Sit down, boy.

It's time for your lesson.

Time for your lesson.

You need to get education.

Hell no.

You're getting humbled big time.

You got to sit down and get an education.

You're so uneducated.

Bro, you are literally the reason why the ACP is dying.

How are we dying?

We're growing.

We've been growing.

Bro, you're literally so unpopular.

Okay, but you're going to sit down.

Oh, he left.

So to educate whoever needs to be educated about this topic, the reason it's impossible that under a society comprehensively transformed by communist relations of production, that it could be defined by the proletariat owning the means of production is because under what we call a communist society, a communist mode of production, there is no proletariat.

There are no classes.

There's no proletariat.

There's no bourgeoisie.

And there's no private property at all.

So to speak of proletariat ownership of the means of production under communism is ridiculous.

Under what we call a communist mode of production, there's no proletariat at all.

So uh this is what I was trying to educate him about, but apparently he found it too confusing.

Okay, we have a lot of people requesting.

Let's go with IJ Smallville.

Yo, scary profile picture.

What do you want?

Yeah, it's actually, I think it's like a Papua New Guinean fetish or something like that.

I took a picture.

I thought it was cool looking.

But anyway, so I have a couple questions.

First of all, it's great to talk to you.

I think you're doing cool stuff, man.

One of these days, let me know, man.

I'm trying to join, go to Moscow, meet Dugan, all that stuff.

Let me know.

Send me an invite.

But regardless, a question that I have for you is, why is China, again, I'm saying this as someone who critically supports China, you know, socialism or Chinese characteristics, blah, blah, blah.

But to cut to the chase, why are they so cucked, man?

Why are they so cucked?

Like, they have no independent foreign policy.

They're part of the IMF.

Like, Donald Trump just went over there and they basically conceded, like, everything.

Like, I don't understand that.

Well, pretty much, like.

I think it was something regarding Iran.

Like, they're saying, yeah, we don't want them to have a nuclear weapon.

And yeah, yeah, but it's nothing to do with China.

What are they going to do?

Well, that's my kind of my point, right?

What are they going to do?

Why don't they why aren't they like a country?

Why aren't they contesting U.S.

imperialism?

Like, haven't they been building up the productive forces forever?

Like, when's the socialism going to start?

You know, when are they going to start contesting imperialism?

And again, I'm saying this as someone who's critical.

China's doing everything right by its own people for its own nation independently.

I don't know how you could say they're cucked, and I don't know why.

I mean, you have these expectations of China that the Chinese people don't.

And it's that simple.

Well, my qu yeah, I I would agree with that, but my question is, is how much is modern-day China a socialist slash communist project versus a Chinese nationalist project, right?

They're doing good for their people and they're okay, great, but I thought the whole point of communism was internationalism and anti-imperialism.

They've always been confused about this, and I don't know why they are, because all communist states are just like China in this way.

You know, Stalin's USSR was the same, and it's been pretty consistent throughout time.

Nah, man, Stalin was arming Greek communists, Stalin was arming partisans, Stalin was arming with Korea, China.

I think actually he actually disagreed with Tito on the point of Greece, I believe.

Actually, there was quite a dispute there.

In any case, Stalin absolutely prioritized the development of socialism in one country.

And there's nothing groundbreaking about the logic of Marxism-Leninism within China and the national orientation of socialism being national in form.

None of that is new.

You just have to know what communism or Marxism-Leninism was in the first place, and it'll all make sense.

So don't let Trotskyists define what communism means when they've never been.

Nah, man, fuck Trotsky, man.

They're faggots, man.

Peter Awesome, but it's like Larry Ellison's TikTok.

Like, a lot of people just cannot.

I want to remove all censorship because I just think the American people can't help it.

They just have to keep, they don't have the discipline.

They just have to continually use bad words that just get me in trouble.

Big, go ahead.

Hey, what's up, man?

I just wanted to come on this debate, like, from the perspective of a neolibertarian phalangist.

Uh can you think we could talk about something here and uh

I think you're a LARPer.

Ah, you got me.

You got me.

Hey, have an excellent day though.

Okay.

Panther, go ahead.

Oh?

Yeah.

Uh so why should I be a Marxist Leninist?

Oh, didn't you want to debate Marxism-Leninism with me as in like Marxist you're claiming to be the real one and I'm the fake one or something?

Essentially.

So are you already a Marxist-Leninist?

No.

Oh, okay, what are you?

Uh, I'm an Italian leftcom.

How old are you?

Eighteen.

'Kay.

Well when did you adopt this ideology?

Like a year ago, two years ago?

Okay, well um

The end result of your ideology is just going to be um Mussoliniism.

Really?

Explain that to me, how so?

Because the left communist trend, especially the Italian kind, Trotskyism and other kind of post-war reactions to Bolshevism is what I call them.

They all culminate.

Well, you know you do realize that like Bordigas and Italian left comms are Bolsheviks.

I know that they try to claim the Bolshevik legacy like Trotsky did.

The reason I call them a reaction to Bolshevism is that Bolshevism was this comprehensive rupture with classical liberal modernity and social democracy, of course.

And the rupture wasn't just negative, it also included a new positive, you know, regrounding of what democracy is and so on and so on.

And it's just this new logic of the political.

And when it comes to this kind of like sublation, left comms and Trotskyists are united in the fact that they want to dwell in the negation forever.

Same with the fascists.

You know, they all have that in common.

They don't want a positive sublation of liberalism.

They just want to continually negate liberalism and thereby become dependent upon it.

Additionally, specifically with respect to the Italian left communist current and Bordiga.

If you take his understanding of Marxist theory to its conclusion.

then you end up with primitivism.

Bordega has a specific kind of metaphysical implication.

When it comes to his understanding of what communism is, what it means to actually oppose capitalism, and so on and so on.

And you know, the organicism that's inherent in his politics lends itself to a kind of retreat back into this notion of like the eternal nature of man since the beginning of time.

Uh ultimately, you know, nature versus technology and so on.

Like that's the there's kind of I guess there's two trajectories, like primitivism or fascism.

But eventually you can't stay in Italian leftcom for a long time.

You're gonna mature.

So how does it lead to primitiv how does it lead to primitivism?

Well, Bordiga had an understanding of

Anti-capitalism, which was devoid of anything positive in content, right?

He had what do you mean positive of positive in content?

Well, he there's simply kind of two facets to the anti-capitalism.

One was this rejection of democracy itself, and I know that sounds based, but it was like rejection of the logic of democracy, even in the Leninists.

Well, I mean, do you want to talk about that?

You want to talk about organic organic centralism versus democratic centralism?

Yeah, sure.

So my issues with democratic centralism is that the proletariat, right and we s we see this during Stalin and Lenin, is that the proletariat does not know what they're doing and it's the job of the vanguard party, the vanguard needs to take up the responsibility of guiding the proletariat towards the international state.

I know, I just we can talk about that and debate about it, but I just want to say why I think that inevitably culminates in primitivism.

Because Bordiga's basic understanding of how there's no distinction between the class and the party of the class, so to speak.

Like, there's no distinction at all.

It's all the same thing.

And it's this kind of yeah, it's this organicistic logic that speaks to an understanding of communism as a return to immediacy, meaning it's a rejection of mediation and the logic of mediation.

And I think that's why Bordega's successor, what was his name, Kamate or whatever, actually became just a primitivist.

He's like, if we're going with this logic of just rejecting the need of dialectical mediation altogether, then let's just return to the truly immediate, which is not simply the proletariat as a class, but an understanding of like the true primitive humanity versus

versus the mediation that has come with the rise of civilization itself.

But also I reject organicism also.

I don't know why he left.

I was gonna say, I don't know if anyone even cares.

Maybe no one cares.

User, go ahead.

Hello?

Yeah.

Hey, what's up, Haz?

Good.

Can you say hi back?

What?

Can you say hi back?

No.

Okay, that's chill.

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And how's it going with your handlers in Russia with you and Jackson Reko?

Did you uh is it all good with Hinkle in them?

And did you smooth it over?

Uh, it's just like a profoundly metrosexual twang in your voice.

Really?

Yeah, can you speak with a little more intention and clarity in terms of what you're trying to ask?

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Yeah, but in real life, you wouldn't.

Not in real life.

In real life, you'd be pretty scared of me, to be honest.

Really?

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You on the no, I mean, on the internet, you can say I'm 5-1, but in real life, it would be different.

I bet.

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Yeah.

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I don't know, I don't think a tough guy would be hiding behind uh

Anonymous picture like this.

Goes radio silent.

You see that guy's radio silence.

He literally froze.

No way.

What happened to the tough guy?

I thought you were this tough guy who uh

was gonna be able to confront me.

Well

Well, he's got nothing.

He thinks that uh the FBI investigation had something to do with Discord for some reason.

He's claiming my Discord is full of freaks.

He's literally a groiper.

Then he says something about how does it feel to work for Russia.

If I was working for Russia, don't you think I would have been indicted already?

Pretty stupid.

Just like not a lot of thinking all over.

How does it feel?

I have this fake.

He's got this metrosexual twang in his voice.

Thinks it makes him sound tough or something.

Uh go ahead, Yakov.

Hello?

What?

So uh you mentioned at the beginning that uh communism is somehow the logos of uh logic of history, etcetera, etc but uh what if history does not uh does not advance according to specific logic, but uh there is only uh I I believe you are familiar with the cyclical view of history, right?

If it's cyclical then it's even more of a logic.

So so like uh if if we look at uh the philosophical uh philosophy of history, we can see that there there is the the optimistic, progressive view and there is also the uh so some some call it the tragic view, where uh like uh nothing ever happens and uh well things do happen though.

There there is yeah, I think things do happen, but like uh

Like there is a lot of chaos, there is a lot of uh irrationality to history that makes it so uh No, it's not irrational.

It doesn't follow the it's all irrational.

It all everything always makes sense.

You know, everything that happens in history eventually makes sense.

The story, the logic of history is very clear.

And it's all what we call that logic is communism.

Now, does that mean everything's going to progress in an op no, no one's necessarily saying that.

What we're saying is that there's an underlying

Riddle of history, so to speak, and communism is that riddle solved.

It's like, what is it?

Why does history point toward a conclusion, you know?

And I was thinking about this the other day with respect to like natural science, and it's like,

It's really interesting how we're just here.

you know?

And the more we actually understand the world around us,

The more we affect that understanding into reality in ways that seem to transform reality, at least for us.

It's like you look at your light bulb in your house, and it's like nobody invented that, actually.

That is a consequence of us actually, with a better degree of understanding, understanding the world around us that was just given to us, you know.

Without any knowledge whatsoever, we

We were born into this world.

We emerged in this world.

There's all of this phenomena around us we have no understanding of.

But when we do understand it,

It affects some kind of change.

Now what is that all pointing toward?

We we we do progressively understand reality better and better.

And w like what does that uh what is the content of that understanding, or what's the content of the rationality driving it?

What does it culminate in?

You know, clearly something.

It's like uh But w but but why does it have to culminate in something?

Why tha why why can't why can't it why couldn't this be just uh infinite progression, for example?

Because infinite progression is an abstraction.

When you think about concretely

How we don't fully understand how light works.

We don't fully understand electromagnetism.

But what little we do understand of it

has led to this, right?

So it's like, what is the universe trying to tell us?

And what are we missing?

You know, clearly, there's something.

If we have such an incomplete understanding, that implies a complete understanding, in my opinion.

Yeah, that that that makes sense.

Well, uh what what I was what I was uh also uh going to ask is uh like how does uh how does the Communist Party handle the uh you know all the the power struggle and dynamics that that come with uh you know vying for pol for politics in general.

Uh I don't know, it's a really complicated question, but I think we're gonna let some more people on.

Khan, go ahead.

Didn't I already bring this person on?

There it is.

Uh previously in a stream, you said one of the most

Revolutionary potent like countries with the most revolutionary potential would be in Anatolia with the Olives.

And Kazakhstan, uh if I remember correctly.

Can you material materialously uh justify this?

Uh turkey.

Yeah.

And the olives?

Yeah.

You want a materialist analysis?

Yes.

Okay, well, my materialist analysis would have to do with the rise of the Turkish state in the post-Ottoman context.

So the Middle East has had three, you could say maybe four, but I'll just give you three.

Three major modernizing projects that have happened where

State institutions that have primarily gotten their

Support externally, so not from indigenous forms of capital accumulation, but from external types of support.

Basically, created this kind of fortress of political power that very much was not rooted in the masses.

And very much came from like external sources, right?

So, Turkey, for example, Turkey and the rise of Ataturk, who led a war of independence within Turkey, of course, Turkish modernization did not occur on completely independent lines, it depended upon

Foreign injections of capital and so on, be part of the world market and world capitalist system.

And there's always been an element of the Anatolian masses Turkish masses so to speak who who were materially stamped with all of the markings of the peculiar social relations of the Ottoman era.

who have kind of been this peripheral force f from the urban modern center, right?

In the Arab world, you had Nasser and the uh Baathist projects which were, you could probably say, sustained as a consequence of support from the Soviet Union.

we can just kind of leave that story there.

And then in Persia you had the Shah and, you know, the White Revolution, where they attempted to carry out this top down form of modernization to the Iranian countryside.

And of course, with the support of the IMF and United States, and so on and so on.

And um you know seventy nine was this breaking point where the periphery, the rural people of Iran and other kind of revolutionary elements from within the center rise up, overthrow the Shah, and restore this kind of autonomous, independent logic of Iranian civilization that had been kept at bay for a very long time by these vain and artificial top-down projects of Western modernization funded by exogenous forms of capital.

And in the Arab world, we started to see.

peculiar phenomena with respect to the legacy of Nasserism and Baathism.

So in the Iraqi side you had the rise of, you know, Iranian backed

Uh Shia religious movements against Saddam.

You had the Arab Spring in Egypt and to an extent in Syria, of course.

And these kind of came at the expense of the strongman politics there.

That was a legacy of the Cold War.

What?

Iran is fundamentally divided from the rest of the

Middle East, the post-Ottoman space, because

The Ottoman Empire and the Safavid Empire were divided.

So the, you know, the civil society within the Middle East comes from the Safav not the Safavid era in Iran.

There's that was long after the Safavids, but nonetheless, the Safavids were the ones who united Iran as, you know, its territorial integrity.

And then you had the Ottomans, right?

And that division between Persia and the Ottoman world.

Was also a material division, right?

And the Alevis in Anatolia were always a kind of bridge between those two worlds.

Um

And they were the ones who founded the Safavid state, of course.

But um I think that they have the potential to kind of articulate and further the legacy of the Iranian Revolution.

Uh, to the Sunni world, to the post-Ottoman world, and that's why I think they have revolutionary potential.

They are rural, they're in the periphery of Anatolia.

There has has always been a degree of uneasiness between rural Anatolia and the central Turkish state.

Erdogan is a symptom of that.

The Alevis have the added advantage of representing a tendency that was never fully domesticated even under Ottoman times.

Um

So I mean that's the rudiments of where I'm coming from.

If that's materialistic enough.

Did the Ottomans not

Co-opt of the Baktashis to suppress certain peasant rebellions.

Uh yeah, the Bektashis and other Sufi orders were very heavily, disproportionately influential within the Janissaries.

But the Alevis and the Bakhtashis are not strictly the same thing.

Alevis are a very eclectic, syncretic tendency.

It's all you could really call it in Eastern Anatolia that has always been well, centuries ago, was a proxy for Safavid interests within Turkey, but was also a kind of

kind of uh zone between the two worlds.

Which never was fully domesticated like a frontier.

What are your thoughts on the Kajawan in Indonesia?

And during the.

I like knowledge.

I don't know anything about them.

They had very high, at least in the PKI, they had very high involvement in the various

Rebellions in Indonesia.

Um also the six, I don't know, I don't know, in Punjab, I know in the CPI there was

Some a lot of six in Punjab specifically.

I don't know if you have any knowledge on that.

I don't know, but I'm going to have to bring other people up.

But yeah, it was good.

Thank you.

Yeah, it was.

Nice history lesson.

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That's just a brave person, by the way.

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But you know, a person like that, I'm a very public person.

I've never encountered anyone like that in real life.

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And they're just they blame me for the fact, I don't know, they can't get a wife or something.

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I don't know why I'm to blame for that though.

Why is that my problem?

BH, go ahead.

Hey, hey, I actually wanted to talk to you about uh one of the recent Twitter posts you made about um Bolivia and Peru.

Okay.

Uh right, i i i is this kind of like uh in I don't remember off the top of my head, so maybe I'm misquoting you, so you can correct me if I'm incorrect here.

But like that communism is gonna start in these countries 'cause of like the Inca heritage.

It's not just 'cause of that, but it's a factor.

Okay, okay, a factor, yeah.

I mean, I mean uh Bolivia Bolivia has a stronger like social democratic movement with MAS, right?

But like Peru like wh where do you see any potential there even then?

Because Bolivia and Peru are a lot like China or Russia before Lenin or China before Mao in the sense that these are forms of civilization that have not fully adapted to modernity.

And the only way civilizations can adapt to modernity comprehensively at that scale is through communism.

So that's

That's why I say that, you know, because they just haven't had the revolution that they need to actually.

reflect the reality of their masses of people that live in the rural hunterlands and so on and so on.

Like they don't that's a specific type of subjectivity that has no institutional representation.

Bolivia, there's a limited extent to which it does, but in Peru, definitely not.

B Peru has always been ripe for revolutionary change.

Well, I mean, Pe Peru is like revolutionary change hasn't always been progressive though, right?

So like for instance, like Cecilia Mendez brings up in the the Huanto Rebellion, or the Philippine Republic, the Huanto Rebellion, right?

Uh that like the during the decolonization effort of the Peruvian independence movement, the indigenous people actually fought on the side of the Spanish crown uh to maintain their land structure during the period because it was more beneficial to their social reproduction.

Well, you would be talking about the various chiefs and beneficiaries, not necessarily Not Chiefs.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, not chiefs, right?

Uh, because they were still within the uh myths of the Spanish structure.

They spa they fought on the side of the crown.

They called them chiefs, it's like a very ahistorical thing.

Uh I would be very surprised if the it was the masses of people who sided with the Crown per se.

No, it was it was it was it was it was a vast majority, right?

Like this is what Cecilia Mendez makes in her point.

Even then and her I've never read Cecilia Mendez and I'd probably have to look into that history in some independent capacity to have an informed yeah so this is this is why I'm talking 'cause I'm actually a Peruvian historian and this is why I think your claim is somewhat uh silly because even the Inca heritage in itself, right, even in Bolivia, but like uh it was utilized actually for white supremacist projects.

So like both in Bolivia and Peru, um you know, in both countries, the white Creoles really made a point to differentiate the Inca heritage versus indigeneity to where they view themselves as inheritors of Inca inheritance, especially in Bolivia, where there was uh there's a great book by A.

Gabriel Conzelli, acting in Inca, where pretty much there is a differentiation between the white Inca and the indigenous Aymara and the kind of inheritance of the Bolivian structure and governance was the whiteness of the Inca versus the indigeneity of the Aymara.

This causes obviously a huge factor.

Cecilia Mendez has another article in 1996 she publishes in Peru specifically about Inca C and Dion, where pretty much the whole schtick of this like Peruvian independence movement is the fact that like they are Inca, not Indi like Indian in terms of indigenous and this is what a lot of indigenismo movements and uh thinkers really view uh indigenous people as.

Um

I I have to be honest, I have to look into those

I have to, before I can have an informed response, I would have to read the arguments presented by those people.

And your argument is noted.

It's the first time of being introduced to it, so I'd have to have you have you uh speaking speaking with you like read Maria Teggi?

No.

Okay.

Oh, I met yeah, yeah, yeah, I just don't know.

I always started with right like I write the seven interpretive essays of Peruvian reality.

Right, like uh you know, even he like pretty much makes the point that like, you know, the Inca in themselves weren't necessarily communist.

Uh because like obviously like it it's an aristocratic class structure, right?

The Inca in itself is what we actually call the uh uh it is the catch a word for the aristocratic class that ruled over.

Well, I have a specific understanding of the Asiatic mode of production that I recognize is contentious, but um

It would take too much time to get into right now, but uh

You know, the I don't think private property existed under the Incas.

Oh, you're actually correct.

Uh well, uh for the most part.

There's a few coastal areas where it uh where like uh commerce actually did exist, but for the most part you're correct.

Well, even in the case I don't even think commerce necessarily qualifies as private property.

I think private property m is begins in Rick really the foundation of it is the ability to alienate land freely.

And uh I can't I can't tell you in this coastal areas actually I mean, most people probably couldn't, uh like in terms of the cow like political economy.

But I do uh for the most part agree with you in terms of the Inca, or I think the actual name very is like Tewet Sanu.

Sorry.

My quech was very rusty.

And I think that is true.

That's actually the norm for human history actually is the absence of any alienation in land or any kind of sophisticated understanding that there is private property.

I think throughout human history, even under

Various, you know, empires, and so on, it's kind of an absurd notion.

Like, the political sovereign is the sovereign over the entire world and.

Use a frunct and like administrative rights and so on and so on.

These are how the usage of land was mainly understood among people, but like to own the land.

In the sense understood by like

the let's say Greek understanding of private property was very odd actually.

Yeah, yeah, of course.

I I would say though, like I agree with land, but in terms of labor, like I think labor is very much owned by the aristocratic class, like the priestly class in the Inca Empire.

Yes, but you could also you could also interpret that as like um

You could also very much interpret that as a because when we talk about aristocracy, we're talking about basically the Greek feudal landowners coming together, forming a constitution to create a state that enforces their right to private property, like over slaves, to do willy-nilly with it.

Whereas the aristocracies that existed in the various so-called Asiatic modes of production could very well be called bureaucracies.

You know, they enforced and reproduced a very centralized system.

of production.

That did give them definitely gave them privileges.

It definitely gave them a very high status and standing within society and they were venerated and so on and so on, uh to a great extent.

They were like a nobility with respect to status for sure.

But were they an aristocracy in the sense of like having distinct private interests that could be identified economically through private property?

I don't think so.

Maybe the tendencies were there for sure, which is why Michael Hudson talks about in Babylonia and Egypt and so on.

There were cyclical processes of debt cancellation and so on, which was the king's way of keeping these tendencies at bay, such that aristocrats could never actually rise to the point of challenging the central authority.

But the notion of a contractual unity of private interests, I think.

There could be exceptions, of course, but really that that is recorded by history mainly as a Greek innovation, right?

Hey, yeah, no.

And I'm I'm not ma like, I'm not trying to like suggest otherwise.

But like, I think like, you know, especially like when you're talking about debt and everything, like the the concept of such didn't even exist within the Inca.

And I know I know, right, that, like, this is, like, uh, obviously a lot of the ACB thing is debt jubilee.

I think that's a very good thing.

Whatever.

But, like, uh, you know, like, uh, the Inca system was built off core beat labor, not necessarily an Asiatic mode of production.

In terms of, like, it was a very different political economy that, like, we're talking about than, like, just this quote-unquote Asiatic mode of production that Marx Ingels analyzes.

Well, the Asiatic mode of production is just a catch-all basically for

The pretty much all the civilizations and modes of production of mankind that were outside of this very specific trajectory of the development of private property, right?

And so, of course, it doesn't refer to anything positively necessarily.

There's like a set of shared characteristics that seems to be shared across all civilizations.

It's like saying everyone has five hands, you know?

It's like, well, sure, but that doesn't really tell you a lot about the character of a person.

But nonetheless, yeah, they had five hands, the Incan societies.

Um there was a combination of

A kind of centralized palatial system where the ownership of all things ultimately rested with the sovereign, right?

And um

In exchange for some kind of tributary system there was common infrastructure that was built.

Although I don't believe it was specifically hydraulic, right?

No, it was it was wasn't hydraulic.

Yeah.

Well yeah, I think uh that's my thing is like right like ha what what Marx and Engels analyze I think having this catch-all of Asiatic mode of production is like a very bad catch-all because what they're analyzing in China especially right which is like what really Marx is talking about is very different than what the Inca are doing and like this is what Maria Teghi tries to get at and and like I to call it I guess an Asiatic mode of production when it is this aristocratic you know priesthood which is what it was right in the East origins yeah I know there's differences but like there is also a elite priesthood in Babylonia or Egypt for example

Yeah, yeah, uh, so so I can talk more about the Egyptian uh side.

I don't know as much about Babylon, genuinely.

But E Egyptian side, right, did utilize this, like, uh, quote-unquote, venerated labor that was still paid or even, like, enslaved labor.

Like, to my knowledge, the Inca did not actually have either of this.

In terms of, like, that is a very different thing in terms of, like, it was this forced Corvi labor in terms of being a part of the empire.

And, like, obviously, like, this is where we have, like, the Quechua people.

This is where we have the Aymara people.

There's a lot of different peoples within the Inca Empire that are brought within this realm of this non-commodity Corvi labor for these infrastructural projects, especially roads.

Well, the key thing is that Egypt and Babylonia were extensive hubs of trade.

And it seems like the Incans were not mercantile.

That's not true at all.

The Inca, the Inca, actually, we have evidence that they have trade with even the Mexican cultures.

We have artifacts from them to where they are trading with these cultures.

It's just in a very different capacity.

I mean, obviously, in some ways in Egypt, the principle of integration within Egypt and Babylonia was first trade between decentralized temples, so to speak, and city-states or whatever, which were then reunified, were then unified by way of conquest.

I'm not sure if there's the same dynamic going on with the Incas where first you had these different economic hubs or temples or whatever that were unit, that were like sources of local trade and so on that eventually unified.

And I don't know if that's really the story.

I mean, I don't know.

I really don't know.

Yeah, I actually can't tell you that either because all I know is the Inca were relatively new empire when the Spanish arrived.

Like, I think the Inca formed around 1470.

Yeah.

So, like, they're a very new formation.

Anyway, I gotta bring other people on, but I will note your thoughts.

I mean, I have to.

I have to read more about the topic for sure.

But I still really like Peru and I like the interesting ideas that come out of it.

Um, so there's somebody who's talking about Zulu, the guy who got destroyed.

You must be like a cult member if you think that there's even a single point

they prevailed on, or could even articulate at my expense, in that debate.

Must be like a sad copium cult member or something who's still coping and shitting your pants to this day.

Where do the alternatives come from?

Where do the alternatives uh why are there different things in the universe?

That that's truly just because of choice, right?

The the differences between things only is because of choice.

Uh who are we gonna bring up?

Fizz, go ahead.

Mm.

Oh?

Yeah.

Can you hear me?

Yeah.

Hey, so I have a question.

I'm not uh I'm not communist, but uh I'm communist curious and I am a very religious person.

Um and I was reading about Lenin in some of his nineteen oh five essays um where he basically had laid out that um

Uh nothing even like if your religion shouldn't come before the revolution.

And I'm I'm wondering where the ACP uh has their stance on freedom of religion, you know, when revolution does happen or when you are partaking in that, is there any room for your religion, things like uh being a conscious and conscientious objector, things like that.

Yeah, we fully support not only support religious freedom, but we believe in a new dialogue between uh religious believers and communists.

NRG, what's up, man?

Appreciate you.

So uh we um

I mean, most of the members of my party are Christian, religious Christians.

That means anything.

They are like very

much insp and even if when they're not Christians, they're very much inspired by the Christian faith.

So we don't, it's a kind of for me.

I understand where you're coming from because you know you read about it in the history, but for us, it's kind of always a strange question because our party is.

quite in terms of the relationship to religion, it's like, well, it's quite religious actually.

We don't enforce it.

I was just wondering where you where you might um differ from Lenin in that in that the book.

Well, Lenin was living in a time when religion was primarily associated

With you know, the institution of religion, which was very much worldly and it was very much embedded in the world.

And there was also this shock between modernity, modern science, and so on and so on, with conventional habits of belief, let's call them that.

And so, to really arrive at the essence of religion, the real the real spiritual core.

Was never something that people thought about when they thought about religion.

They were thinking about something much more on the surface.

Okay.

So like would you say that Stalin's uh time because I did know that Stalin got picked to uh be at a monastery.

He was actually trained to be an Orthodox priest for a time uh until he left.

Do you think that

um influenced his

Political beliefs, or did he completely eschew those and reject it?

Like, is there

No, for sure.

I mean, look, I think 99% of religion is really unconscious.

It's not even conscious.

So that always stuck with him.

The religious belief is something in the heart.

It's not something you can reduce to the mind, so to speak.

Okay.

Yeah, I was just always very curious about that because I know the places like the Soviet Union and China got pretty harsh on religion at some points and relaxed and others.

Well, also you gotta understand this was never a fully top-down thing that was going on.

There were so many different dynamic

Tendencies among the people and trends and stuff, and it's like look think of all the trends that exist in our society, like memes and stuff.

Not all of it's top-down.

Sometimes these things just gain traction, they happen, and then the state is forced to respond in some way.

Sometimes the state responded with a lot of disapproval.

Stalin was very disapproving of.

The ways in which the beliefs of religious people were being offended by local activists and stuff.

And then sometimes the state would just kind of acquiesce and be like, Okay, we'll turn a we'll we'll tacitly um yeah turn a blind eye to those things.

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

And then, you know, so it's not always black and white.

But from the top down, the only time that from the top down I think there was a kind of aggressive attempt to crack on religion was actually under Khrushchev.

Under Khrushchev, they did, because Stalin did so much to open the church up, under Khrushchev, part of the de-Stalinization campaign was actually cracking down on the church.

Yeah, especially in the Eastern.

Yeah, I do know that.

Especially in the Eastern Bloc in Ukraine, Eastern Orthodox Church, you know, they got a little testy there.

You know, one of my big, one of my, I guess, my main question is.

As a Christian, where does if you want to be a good communist and a good Christian, where does your priority lie?

Is there room for somebody in a communist revolution who says that my communism is subordinate to my Christianity?

Or are those two basically the same thing?

Like, if you want to be a good Christian, you have to be a good communist.

I think I can speak for the majority of the Christians in my party.

I think they think it's the same thing.

You know, you want to apply Christianity in practice.

And live by those principles and apply them to the troubles of the world today, then it points to communism for them, you know?

Yeah, if you think your religion is correct and if you think it's the um the correct way, then there's no better way to do that than to be a good communist and to um enforce those things uh through the state.

I guess that makes sense.

Well, for sure, man.

It was uh good talking and uh more beautif This guy, I don't know you're trying to rage maybe, he goes, My party, it should be our party.

I don't know.

I've never known if that's range, man.

Every time I was like, yeah, my party, they're like, oh, your party?

It's like

So when you say my country, does that mean you you're claiming that you own the entire country just yourself?

Or if you say like my neighborhood or something, like oh, the whole neighborhood belongs to you, it's like what kind of crazy

Haas likes Bombachi based on what?

When?

Based on what?

You literally just made that up.

Congratulations for making that up.

It's like the me the I love spreading disinformation meme.

Yeah, good job.

Uh swag, go ahead.

Oh, hi, Haas.

It's nice to talk to you.

I'm writing a paper, actually, a historiographical paper, looking at North Korea's nuclear development program.

I don't know.

I don't know why everyone thinks I'm just willing to talk about anything.

Go ahead, NET.

Yeah, so why is your ideology made by a Jew?

Why is Christian?

No, I'm not.

Oh, okay.

What are you?

Yeah, I'm an atheist.

Okay, you're an atheist.

All right.

Do you come from a Christian family?

I'm pretty sure, yeah.

Majority of people in your country are Christian or no?

If you want to put US, yes.

Okay.

And where does Christianity originate?

I don't know.

I don't know if I'm an atheist.

I don't hold to Christianity.

Yeah, but that's where your civilization comes from.

So where does that come from?

Why does this hold to an argument about Marxism?

Because you asked, well, Marxism comes from a Jew.

Where does Christianity come from?

It is.

Where does Christianity come?

It was founded by a Jew.

Okay, who founded Christianity?

I don't know.

I don't hold to Christianity.

You don't know who founded Christianity?

I don't know.

This is an economic system.

We're not talking about religion.

Okay, what do you mean?

You are talking about religion.

Judaism.

I'm not talking about Judaism is primarily a religion.

That's the marker of distinction, Judaism, right?

The whole reason there's ever been any kind of JQ is because of religion from the very beginning.

Wait, wait, do you think the Jews are the ones that...

Do you think that the only reason why Jesus is here is because of the Jews?

He was a Jew.

He was a Jew.

Paul was a Jew.

No, he was not.

The founders of the Christian religion were ex-Jews.

They were Jews.

Okay, all right.

But anyways, can we just get back to the topic about how Karl Marx was such a so was Paul, so was Saint Paul, so was Saint Peter, so was Jesus.

Why would I care?

Why do I care why Karl Marx was Jewish?

Okay, yeah, cool.

Then why was 30 million Christians uh genocided in the Soviet Union during Lenin's term or during the Soviets' term?

If you care about Christians so much, why do you support this?

And do you know that you know the Soviets were atheists, right?

They don't hold to Christianity.

But you just made that number up.

Really?

Yeah.

Really?

Yep, let's go through the demographic details.

Let's go through the population statistics and demographic details.

Okay, make sure you cite primary sources.

When you say thirty million.

Thirty million, really?

He's gonna share a meme he got on X.

No, I'm not using X.

Okay, what are you using as your source?

Yeah.

What's your source?

Gtvflyers dot com

I don't know what the hell that is.

What's their source?

Yeah, their source is historically.

Why can't we just go through the demographic data and actually count the population?

Where are you getting 30 million?

Who could possibly have measured 30 million?

Tell me.

Yeah, why are you rogging out?

Because it's extreme, it's an insult to everyone's intelligence here.

How could it have been?

Oh, isn't it an insult to everyone's intelligence?

But you're saying that so that communism adores Christianity when your country, not country, your ideology is basically founded for bounded by Jews and founded that they pass more anti-Semitism laws than this country today.

The Jew in question is contradictory to those rules.

Hold on.

Hold on.

They didn't have any special anti-Semitism law.

Are you dead?

Are we dead ass?

I am dead ass.

I'll bet you 5,000 on it.

Bet.

Give me.

Oh, I bet.

So they need a single cite me where the Soviet constituents are.

Why did Lenin pass more anti-Semitism laws than today's law?

He didn't even pass one.

He didn't even pass dead pax.

He did not pass one.

Okay, so he didn't pass one.

Not even one.

He didn't pass one.

The only law under which anti-Semitism could fall under was the discrimination against people for racial or religious reasons.

Okay, then why did he make it illegal for people to criticize Jews then?

It was never illegal to criticize Jews.

It was illegal to carry out pogroms, which Red Army people were doing.

So they had to put a stop to it because Red Army detachments were literally going into Jewish villages.

And yeah, and they were part of the Red Army.

So when the leadership found out, they were like, okay, we got to stop that.

That's not what we believe in, right?

So that's what they banned.

They banned violence.

They banned mob violence against Jewish people, which was very widespread, even on the communist side.

Okay.

So because of that, I'm against violence.

It doesn't mean anti-Semitism laws.

It has nothing to do with what the shit they're trying to do right now with anti-Semitism laws.

They were just trying to prevent mob violence and disorder and rowdiness and violence.

It's completely what a civilized leadership would do in a chaotic environment.

So you're a Marxist.

Do you support Maoism, by the way?

Yeah.

Was Mao also Jewish?

No, it's just retarded.

Go to China and see what Chinese people think of Mao.

How about that?

Yeah, Mao, the fact that Deng Xiaoping had open economic liberalization to destabilize the Jewish people.

There would have been no use from the Deng Xiaoping reform had it not been for Maoists.

Also, mind you, the fact that under Mao's Great League program, the fertile rate and the growth rate were down extremely low.

For the three years, for three years of okay, I had to remove you because.

My relive got restricted 'cause of him, that's great.

Yeah, these people just

cannot help themselves.

People talk about the Great Leap Forward as a total failure because of the three years, the three bad years, so 59, 60, 61, where there was a drought unprecedented in China's history.

There was a famine, which we call a famine, but the mortality rate per capita was still less than India's, capitalist India's.

But in any case, the long-term effects of the Great Leap Forward laid the foundation for Deng Xiaoping's reforms.

China had been industrializing at a steady pace even before Deng Xiaoping, but it was the common infrastructure and specifically the hydraulic power that the Great Leap Forward created, which made the industrialization under the reform and opening up even possible in the first place, because they had taken for granted a shared infrastructure.

There's no possibility of market reforms that are effective without shared infrastructure, and that's what the Great Leap Forward primarily created.

Uh bring in uh so many people here.

Wash, go ahead.

Uh um I wanted to debate you on the America's not being occupied by British um bourgeoisie.

It's being occupied by Masons and independent is who force I don't care.

Heaven, go ahead.

Hello, my friend.

So so I um recently discovered that you're also a sh uh fellow Shia brother and I just wanted to ask you how like

Carl, go ahead.

Hello.

You hear me?

Yeah.

Okay, awesome.

All right.

Do you have like a topic that you're discussing or?

Not like it like is it like is it is it just Marxism or for example like I'm pretty sure you're like pro-Russia or we or we could talk about Marxism, which would you prefer?

Are you just clip farming?

We can, if you want to have a clip a debate, we can schedule one, but no, what?

No, I thought you were looking for debates.

What do you mean clip for me?

We can we can schedule a proper debate if you want to have a proper debate.

Well I mean we can just talk right now?

It's 2:30 a.m.

and I'm trying to go to bed.

I don't want to talk to you for two hours, to be honest.

You seem like a big account.

You seem like you want to have a serious debate.

We can schedule one.

Well, I'd be more than happy to have a longer discussion if you'd like.

But okay.

Yeah, let's let's do it.

Um

Thursday?

Or not Thursday?

Yeah, Thursday.

How about Thursday?

Maybe.

We can message each other, yeah?

Okay, yeah, sure.

Okay, fair.

I'll give you a fall.

All right.

Okay.

Well, have a good night.

Yep.

See ya.

Guys, these are gonna be like thirty second debates.

I'm not like I'm not here, I'm not trying to stay on.

I'm just trying to try to get r through all the people already.

Yo, what's up?

So I'm gonna make the case for Marxist Blackpill.

You literally have twenty seconds to say something interesting or you're going to have to nineteen So for one, there's the uh homo economicus problem.

And and this is where because because men are expected to provide, there's this dynamic.

What that's what that's going to mean is that uh when there's an economic bust and the guys can't provide, they can't spoil or whatever, this is going to mean that it's going to produce incels at the bottom.

Can I give you a tip?

If you

If you are just fun to be around, women will love you, you know?

Just be like fun to be around.

Like just be fun and enjoyable to be around.

Stop being so serious and overthinking it and talk cap doing all these fucking calculations in your head.

They don't care about that, I promise.

Just just be a good person.

Uh to be around.

Like be just fun to be around.

Just be entertaining.

Be j be funny.

Just be like a j And if you can't do that, I mean you probably have a terrible social life in general.

And, you know, so you have a lot of issues.

Just just genuinely have fun, be fun, you know?

Yeah.

You don't have to overthink all this stuff about you don't need a lot of money, you don't.

I promise you don't.

Imperial, go ahead.

What's up, man?

Uh, can you tell me why the Italian Communists sabotaged the actual cap anti-capitalists and sided with capitalists?

The Italian who?

Communists.

The Italian Communists.

Why do they sided with actual capitalists over anti-capitalists?

They didn't.

Uh so can you explain to me why the SRI was constantly being sabotaged by Italian Marxists?

Uh, refresh my memory.

Whitelist, what's up?

The SRI, yeah, Social Italian Republic, ah, the Mussolini-LARP Republic in the final hours.

Well, no, well, Mussolini left off the market.

Bobacci, yeah, the Bobacci-Mussolini-LARP Republic in the final hours, where Mussolini basically realized he was cornered.

He had to do it 180 to try as best as he can to pander to the Italian communists who were imminently going to depose him.

The party was not true.

Yeah, it is.

No, that's not true.

The whole purpose of the regime.

The whole purpose of it was he was already being overwhelmed by the Italian public and masses who had been fed up with the capitalistic dictatorship under Mussolini.

So he opportunistically tried to kind of.

It's kind of like, you know, it's like when Hillary Clinton tried to adopt Bernie's politics, you know, it's like one-for-one the same thing, you know?

I mean, maybe they're like two different things, but I guess.

But like, most of the Italian public was on the side of Mussolini, and even to the point of Bombaci.

I don't think so.

I think that they were rapidly turning against him, and this was his way of trying to save himself.

But how so?

Because most of the Marxists that, for example, assassinated Gentile, hung Mussolini, even the actual Marxists within these communities later stated that they regretted actually sending him like unaliving Gentile, unalive.

I don't think they all said that, but the reason they were so brutal in their vengeance against the fascists is because that's what the fascists did in the 20s.

They were brutal.

The fascists didn't do that.

What?

Yeah, they were brutal.

They absolutely were on some big shit.

Like, okay, we're just going to be on some gangsterism type of shit.

And the communists in the third, they were waiting for their moment to hit them back.

Most of the violent, what's it called?

Historical documents that are being perpetuated against the fascists at the time were being perpetuated by Matteotti's government.

And even then, go into the countryside and attack.

Farmers and they would attack socialists and unionists and communists.

They would throw grenades in the homeless.

I'm talking about the Black Shirts and what they would do.

No, no, I understand.

But specifically are you talking about the Po Valley?

Uh maybe.

Okay, well overall I heavily disagree because even at the on the exit of the war, I guess you could say in 1944, the Italian public, especially in the north, was still very anti-West.

And when I mean anti-West, I mean not anti-Western ideals, but anti-capitalists compared to like the United States, Britain, France.

They wanted to protect every land they owned.

That's why, like, for example, majority of the Italian public was against, what was it, Bor it was, I forget, someone reminded me, it was the king of Savoy and I don't remember the other guy's name, but it was a general that saw.

Why is it that in the continuity between the fascists and the Cold War, they were operationalized by NATO and the P2 Masonic Lodge and the Gladio operations?

Well, they were just skin-suited.

Like, for example, if you look in France with the communist movement, you know, Maurice Doraz and stuff, sorry, French.

Are you familiar with Maurice Torres?

You have to say it in English.

Sorry, Maurice Torres.

I apologize.

He was a Communist Party member that was leading the French Communists on the side of de Gaulle or against de Gaulle.

And he wanted to actually usurp the French government and join the Comintern.

However, most of the Marxists.

There was no Comintern under de Gaulle.

What are you talking about?

No, no, no, no.

Sorry, maybe you're not tracking.

But Common Turn, we understand, is in the East.

Maurice Torres wanted to join the Common Turn.

The Gaul didn't.

You mean the Warsaw Pact or what?

Or sorry, the Common Turn, the Warsaw Pact, the Warsaw Pact just evolved from that.

But Maurice Torres wanted to join the Warsaw Pact afterwards.

He wanted to immediately abolish the capital state of France and join it.

But most Marxists that operated in Free France at the time of liberation sided with the Western capitalists.

That's why their party, a lot of their members, were getting suited.

If I understand it correctly, the main impetus of the French new right and far right was wanting to preserve the colonial holdings in Algeria and elsewhere, right?

It was partially de Gaulle was not like the French New Right was primarily wanting to focus on Algeria, but giving like extreme autonomy to the rest of the territories.

The Gaulle wanted to prioritize France itself.

But yeah, somewhat.

Well, the Gaulle, it it's not that they had a priority, it's the Algerian resistance was giving the French army a lot of trouble.

They only gave that much trouble after because the Gaulle promised, well, I mean, the previous government promised them freedom in exchange for help and liberation of France.

The Gaulle, at first, basically just outright refused after liberation, but had to afterwards when they started resisting extremely, I guess.

Yeah.

So, um.

Well, in any case, um

There yeah, I know that there are elements of the European New Right who eventually adopted a stance that seemed like it was sympathetic to the USSR.

But in any case, the problem was that

I just see the effective continuity in practice was mainly just Gladio NATO's deep state operations.

The continuity between fascism and um

Well, well, fascism has always been about rejecting.

I mean, like, when we look at like the fascists' growth in Italy, we we understand that they wanted to abolish the southern nobility, they wanted to abolish the southern landowners and the entrenched nobility in the north, the families that were controlling the majority of the entire country.

All I see from the actions of fascists was the you're talking about in the post-war period, the pre-war period, because they were post-World War One, yeah.

This is after Mussolini got ousted from the Socialist Party, yeah.

I don't see any effective practical examples of that.

Practical examples of what being anti-capitalist?

Yeah, for example, I tell you, the Italian Communist Party genuinely had a chance of winning.

That absolutely rattled the landowners and the various cartels within Italy.

They did everything they could to stop it.

That's not true.

Matteotti constantly undermined them and absumed all their members.

Like, for example, Gramsci even criticized Matteotti's government for being too lenient and working with the landowners.

The Italian Communist Party never won.

The post-war party?

No, no, no, I understand that.

They have the post-war period.

The Italian Communist Party was very close to winning.

Are you talking about post-World War I or World War II?

World War II.

Oh, okay.

Maybe I can need my continuity.

Yeah, so they were really close, but the Soviets themselves actually abandoned the Italian Communist Party by throwing their entire lot against the fascists because they didn't want their power possible.

So instead of supporting them, they supported the liberal government almost to crush any potential fascist uprising.

Because what period are you talking about?

I'm talking about post-World War II.

Post-World War II.

Well, no, it was the CIA that had to work against the Italian communists by propping up former fascist elements and interests, the same ones that propped up the fascist government.

Same thing was in Germany.

And the Italian communists had a genuine electoral chance of winning, and the U.S.

considered it an existential threat.

It was one of the key moments of the beginning of the Cold War.

I'm not actually disagreeing with you that the CIA attempted to change it in the perspective of the Western allies, I guess you could say.

But the Soviets did nothing to actually aid the Italian communists like they did in like yeah, but they also didn't really do much to aid the Greeks, they didn't do much to aid well, yeah, that's a whole other thing.

Their policy, yeah, because in the post-war period, the Soviet policy was that they didn't want to export, do anything to export communism at all.

They wanted to focus on securing the security of the Soviet Union itself, and they wanted actually they did genuinely believe in a partnership with the United States as much as they did.

Wasn't that a failure?

Yeah, it was.

It was, but they believed in it earnestly because under Roosevelt, I think there was a chance of it.

But wouldn't this just be supporting capitalists in general?

Like, how?

Because Roosevelt had a complicated relationship with the established international capitalist class.

I'm not saying he was.

Outside of them fully, but he had a very complicated relationship with them.

He mainly represented these up-and-coming light industry tycoons who were being gatekept by the kind of entrenched heavy industry plus financial capitalists who were more represented by Britain.

There was a tension there for sure throughout Roosevelt's entire presidency, but when he died, Truman, who is like directly an agent of that, yeah.

Yeah, he's like, you know.

Truman basically

Um

Took over and he, you know.

Well, he was basically a picked successor after Roosevelt died, but he had a lot of connections with, for example, Morgenthau, the head financier at the treasury.

Yeah.

But this just leads to my point that the Soviet Union, rather than attempting to export the revolution and even abandoning China by formulating more of a national doctrine over actually allying with actual fellow anti-capitalists, they abandoned this world revolution.

They allied with capitalists.

I think you're dealing with two separate things.

One is that the socialism in one country view where you're not trying to export revolution was correct.

But the problem with the post-war Soviet foreign policy is that it basically.

um try to impose a very dogmatic understanding of

Marxism-Leninism to other communists throughout the world and was very mistrustful of more of the creative, you know, in China, for example, ways in which that was being articulated.

And um

They very much were they very much um

Really restored the significance of social democracy in a lot of ways and its kind of stagist understanding of we don't necessarily want you to adopt full-on Marxism, Leninism, Communism.

We would prefer these kind of people's democracies which have an ambiguous relationship to communism, but which are led by progressive elements who support the Soviet Union's interests and simultaneously, you know, eventually will prepare the necessary conditions for communist takeover.

But wouldn't this oppose the Soviets put a very high standard upon like what are the sufficient conditions for communist parties to actually be in power?

In a lot of ways.

Like they didn't By facilitating social democratic governments?

What?

Yeah, they yeah, they they didn't think that these countries were ready for what Russia had in nineteen seventeen.

So you're telling me Stalin changed his position ever since like Falman in like the the the early twenty the late twenties, early thirties?

When he came to the third period where he thought that, you know, yes, the demise of capitalism is imminent worldwide because of nineteen twenty nine and now we're in a period of like revolutionary change.

Uh yeah, they moved away from that view toward the end of the thirties.

Okay, so but we can agree that that was a bad position to take.

Um, I can't though.

I think there was wisdom in it, but I think it just needed to be taken to more of a logical conclusion.

And I think that's what Mao actually did.

I think Mao Mao didn't reject the popular front, but he did take it to its logical conclusion, which ended up being even more revolutionary than I'm not disagreeing with that.

Yeah, I actually admire how Mao kind of grew the revolution, and especially with his cultural revolution.

My only kind of upset is more with the Soviet Union on its exportation and in its like fear of Trotskyites and of fascists.

It abandoned its mission of being anti-capitalist to destroy their Trotskyite enemies and fascism.

Yeah, but you know, I'm glad you understand the connection between the Trotskyites and fascism, because it was very real.

I'm not saying that.

I'm not saying that.

I don't think it came at the expense of anti-capitalism.

I think effective anti-capitalism is.

Soviet Union.

Soviets were correct in understanding.

You can't impose anti-capitalism.

You can't export it.

You can't impose it.

That's not true.

You can't wage a crusade against global capitalism.

That's not true.

I think the Germans did it.

The Italians did it.

No, they did.

Hell, the Soviets even did it.

The Germans waged a huge adventure to promise bankers in Wall Street that they're going to pay off the original debt from the this is the vampire economy myth this is not true this is something that was debunked who debunked it i believe here hold up i'll pull it up for you but i know don't pull anything up because no one's pulling anything up right now just say who

Say who you think I have the book here somewhere.

The Michael Marx and the entire German military industrial complex was based in debt, and the only way the debt could be paid off was from the resources that were plundered from Eastern Europe.

But that was only on condition that it would be paid to the Western powers, which they were just defaulted anyways.

We look at, for example, in the Soviet Union.

No, they weren't fully defaulted because the Germans continued paying the Bank of International Settlements throughout the entire war.

They paid them off in 1938, but the rest was defaulted.

No, no, no, no.

You're talking about a restructuring of the debt such that it wouldn't be a direct payment.

Well, the bankers into Germany absumed it.

I understand what you're going towards.

But the Bank of International Settlements continued to be the medium through which the converted form of the original Versailles debt was being repaid.

And a lot of this also comes from the Dawes plan.

So the Dawes Plan in the early 30s, late 20s.

Was Wall Street's way of building up German industry in its entirety, basically.

And that was a way to convert the original Versailles debt.

So it was never fully repudiated or liquidated.

And by the time Hitler claimed it was, it was basically symbolic and ceremonial because by that time, that specific debt had already been converted through the Dawes plan.

But even so, majority of these debts that are financed through international capitalism were obsumed by the German government and German bankers, which were eventually just nationalized and held by the German government.

I don't want to sound like it's a Ponzi scheme, but they weren't nationalized and they continued being paid throughout the war.

Germany continued paying the Bank of International Settlements throughout, while it was fighting Britain and America.

It was still paying them through the Bank of International Settlements.

Can you give me an example on how they were able to pay?

Because not through, I don't want to be that guy.

I'll tell you if you're at war with your Switzerland?

Yes, through the Swiss.

Swiss were just doing trade that was the Swiss had nothing to do with the German government.

I know, but that was the neutral country where the settlements or in the meetings for the Bank of International Settlements were being held.

And Germans were part of it, and so were the Allies, the Americans, British.

How would, for example, how would the Allied powers be able to take on or at least continue to retrieve this debt that they were being paid if they were literally blockading the Germans across the North Sea?

Switzerland had no naval access post-1940.

Because the Germans were looting a lot of wealth.

And resources from Eastern Europe.

But how are they funding them to the Allied powers?

That's my question.

They were paying them in the bit through the settlements.

How would they pay?

Because remember, we don't have electronic transfers back then.

I don't want to sound like that guy.

I know, but for example, through Switzerland, I don't know specifically how the money trucks were being sent or whatever, but they were being paid.

I mean, you would have to show me a pathway because last time I checked, Britain had its entire navy blockading the Mediterranean and the North Sea.

There would be no way that the Germans would even be able to give, even if they wanted to pay off this debt, the Allied powers would just bomb those ships.

Well, you can just chat GBT it because they were.

Yeah, I mean, my point that's kind of like going around this is that the Italians and the Germans declared war on most of the capitalist powers within the West.

You can argue it's expansion, you can argue it's for looting, it does not matter.

This proves that these powers were able pre-nuclear bomb to actually invade capitalist countries, take them over.

What happened is the Germans had several opportunities to launch a ground invasion of Britain, never did.

That's not true.

No, that's not true.

Hitler even lied to Stalin in a letter.

Making excuses for why he didn't invade the British Isles.

And what he told Stalin in the letter, he said something that I actually think was true, but he pretended like it wasn't, you know, he wanted nothing to do with it, it wasn't his fault.

He said, there are aristocratic ties between various German officers who have high rankings in the German army, who have ties to the British aristocracy.

And this level of brotherhood and solidarity prevents them from any kind of willingness to invade the British Isles.

Because he had to make an excuse for why at the time the Germans would not invade the British Isles.

That's not entirely true.

Because the Germans during the war had to have a plan.

They'd use their Falschmege and they used an operation called Operation Sea Lion as a potential to invade the British Isles.

However, a specific moment in the war before Barbarossa.

And it was a snow, it was a very specific opening that they had to do it and they wouldn't do it.

Because Hitler believed there could be a quick resolution in the war with Germany so that he could focus on the Soviet Union.

Yeah, it was he didn't want to draw out the war with the British too long.

And by the way, it was kind of implicit, implicitly acknowledged by both sides.

Why?

Because at no point did the Allies open up a Western front.

The British and the American Soviets were lobbying them to hell and back to open a Western front.

And they would not do it.

Soviets appreciated the limited support they were getting from America and Britain, and they were technically allies during the war, but they weren't very good allies because good allies would actually relieve see the the the the conditional degree of alli it was such a disreputable alliance that the British and Americans were giving the Soviets because

They were they were watching mainly to see what's gonna happen.

Like, when the Soviets proved they could carry, you know, their own weight, then the kind of politicians in Washington and London were like, Okay, well, the Soviets have a fighting chance and uh we will you know support them to that extent.

Initially they were like everyone believed the Soviet Union's gonna be destroyed immediately.

And then once the Soviets were fighting the heaviest, they were like, okay, open a Western front.

All the conferences, all the meetings they would have, open Westerfront.

They wouldn't open a Western Front.

Well, this isn't when it was like D-Day only happened because they knew the Soviets were coming to Berlin and taking all of Germany, right?

Yeah, and I'm not disagreeing that they were attempting to loot off the rest of the corpse that the Germans were kind of like spilling all over.

The point I'm trying to make, and maybe the war with the Soviet Union was very much kind of a bad take, I guess the best way you can say it.

But the Germans were able to successfully invade capitalist countries using pure force of will.

No, they didn't, though.

They didn't invade capitalist countries.

What they did is that they fought, they invaded France.

Not much.

They took them out in like a month.

Yeah, it wasn't much of a, you know, France and the Vichy government.

Compared to the First World War, how long did that?

France didn't even put up a fight.

That's the thing.

Okay, that's not true.

That's not true.

And I'm French, so maybe it's ethnic grievance, but no, that's not true.

But I mean this is like a whole other put up a real fight.

Um I mean uh maybe this is maybe like we're nitpicking there.

My point is just that the f the Germans were able to invade a capitalist country of France that whole held a lot of finance capital within the world.

No, but the center was always London, not France.

I'm not disagreeing, yeah.

I'm not disagreeing.

And that's why the Germans tried to bomb them into submission.

Or I don't know if it's banned in the US.

Sorry.

But France put up much more of a fight than it did.

And the reason it didn't put up more of a fight than it did is because it lacked the incentive in terms of the ruling classes within France to resist.

Well, they resisted.

Most of their generals were just.

I mean, their plan was the Maginal Line.

The Maginal Line was able to, it was successful.

It's just that, you know, when you invade through another nation, it's kind of the story in France is really complicated because they had a popular front government.

There were various elements within France who were scared of communism.

There's so many complicated things that yeah, there's there's a lot of con there's yeah, a lot of confusing things about uh the French thing.

It's more that the French government was sabotaging uh the communist party within France consistently.

And when uh they eventually surrendered most of the higher-up bourgeois and the upper class escaped leaving the communists just kind of lead, just kind of stay and get like persecuted.

But my problem was that when they returned rather than attempting to build their own state like in the Russian Revolution or at least utilizing some control they allied immediately with Western capitalists and then that's why they failed in their endeavor to building a communist country in France.

We see this the same thing in Italy like in when Sicily was first landed into the mafia which were utilizing with communist members within the south as well as three and so I gotta actually wrap this up okay well yeah I anyway I'm just gonna go I guess

So uh Jesus Christ, it's three AM.

Who is who's requesting?

Alright.

Did I already brought on Elizabeth, the crazy grandma?

Alright, I'm since it's gonna be my last one.

Alright, literally 15 seconds.

Go ahead.

What's up, what's up, what's up?

What um I want to debate about um

Cambodia and Zimbabwe

Alright, go ahead, Antonio.

Good night.

That's it?

Yeah.

All right.

Well, okay, I'm wrapping it up.

All right, guys, I'm gonna go to bed.

I'm gonna eat and go to bed.

It's so late.

Alright well, I hope you guys had a good stream.

on kick.

I'm on kick now.

I hope everyone had a good time.

Mm-hmm.

Well, I hope you had a good time.

Bye guys.

So you uh

Thursday.

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