IRAN WAR | MASSIVE DEBATES!

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I noticed something uh

actually look the best in these hats.

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We got a lot to talk about.

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Appreciate you.

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Uh we're gonna be doing the Confront the Chairman tonight.

I have a lot to talk about.

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Ones that were good.

I've got a lot to talk about.

I'd like to uh get into a lot of topics.

Um

A lot of my thoughts, actually, and actually, I'm going to start the space right now, actually, because it's always a good time to start.

I don't actually encourage you to join the space yourself.

I want you to stay on kick and throw money at me and watch from afar.

We're going to be capturing the ex-NPCs.

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Uh let's put um

Debating Trump supporters.

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Debating, uh,

What do you call these fucking people?

Iran debating

Uh let's see.

Base populace, what's up?

I was gonna say pro-Zionists and

Anti

Iranian anti-Iran cattle

I don't know if that's a good

Topic

Ah, debating pro West tards.

That's such a perfect one.

I love that one.

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That's some good bait.

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So, okay, now that we're here in the space, I do need a co-host, so I'm going to hold out waiting for a co-host.

QFK, can I trust him with a co-host?

I don't know.

Bro, are you going to be serious?

Can I trust you with a co-host?

Can I can I trust you with a co-host?

Are you gonna be fucking are you gonna be jester maxing?

Are you gonna be actually on some effective co-host shit?

Alright, I'll give him co-host, but he bro, this is your one chance to not fuck up, all right?

On some real shit.

Um

Cannot be on no gesture maxing type of shit, alright?

So, anyway, guys, the thing I wanted to talk about is that I saw something really interesting.

Um the debate between us and these

These leftists that we're always finding ourselves at odds with or confronting, and so on, and so on.

I don't know why I look like Sultan Abdul Hamid.

You know, I don't know what I don't know what it is.

Maybe just make it make it even more or less.

I don't know.

All right, anyway.

The thing is the thing is, guys, um.

I remember on Instagram there was this stupid woman who was saying this stuff, ACP are Nazbulls, ACP are fascists, yada yada yada yada, right?

And they were a CPUSA member.

They were a member of the CPUSA saying that shit.

And I'm just like, do I even need to say anything?

These CPUSA members that are always trying to cancel us.

Um I don't understand it because where so first of all, can we just start calling them what they are, Zionists?

Is this what is this?

The GOI CP GOI SA?

What is this?

Because it's like they're doing a joint statement with the.

Communist Party of Israel

and the anti-Iran Tudah party to denounce the Iranian government in the middle of an existential war for the survival of Iran itself while it heroically fends off the most powerful empire in the history of mankind.

That's not even an exaggeration.

The US is the most technologically powerful and wealthy empire in the history of the world.

Iran is heroically fending off that empire by itself.

Meanwhile, the so-called Communist Party that claims to be the Communist Party of that country, which it's not, by the way,

Alongside the Communist Party of Israel, to just make it even better, are issuing a statement.

Denouncing the Iranian government.

How incredible.

Zerweeny, what's up, bro?

Appreciate you.

So, I just, I don't know.

I just, I don't know whether to laugh or how I should even feel about this, what my feelings should be.

I don't know.

But why are these people who are the supporters of these organizations?

You guys, you want to know how you deal with these leftists?

Crush their pan-left unity.

Anytime leftists are trying to attack us, point it the fucking finger at them and say, hey, is this what you fucking support?

For example, Red Andrau.

Every fucking time he opens his mouth.

These are his fucking people.

Every time Red Andra opens his mouth, ask him if he supports this.

Just screenshot this and fucking confront him with this.

Because we need to draw the fucking lines.

I'm sick of these fucking leftists who are transgender indigenous indig transgender fat ablistica, whatever the fuck they are, who claim to be tankies, claim to be like pro-North Korea, but have one issue with us, which is that we're not pro-transgender enough.

Bandwagon with literal Zionists, with the CPUSA, with literal Democrats, with literal Hitlerites, with literal social democrat pieces of shit.

Get on some pan-left bandwagon with Zoron supporters and everything, and all feel united and powerful while they attack us.

We need to fucking draw the lines.

Hey, motherfuckers, do you support this though?

Oh, yeah, we get it.

You're against ACP for X, Y, and Z reason.

Do you support this, though?

Draw the fucking lines.

Make them own up to it.

Crush their pan-leftist unity.

Seriously, where's the confrontation?

Where's the accountability for the fact that these people are fucking Zionists and get away with it?

Oh, we made Trump memes four years ago or something, right?

That's unforgivable.

But this is forgivable.

This is the left.

What a fucking joke.

And you know, to continue badgering on to this point, I just feel like

The word communism is losing aura because of these people.

It's just become this extremely cringy.

Social democratic shit.

They're just sitting in cafes with glasses on, debating about whether Iran is worthy of their moral support.

Meanwhile, Iran

Is that the vanguard, the revolutionary vanguard of

Literally blowing up the fucking world, motherfucker.

Like, they're actually confronting the they're about that shit.

It is him.

They're about that shit.

Iran is fucking hammering the Zionists in the US Empire.

Oh, that's like actually some real shit.

They're blowing up Dubai, bro.

How do you get more revolutionary than that?

Like, while they're gibbering and sitting here about whether Iran is worthy of their precious support, Iran is leading the charge of world revolution at the vanguard.

How shameful and disgusting is that?

There has never been a worse time to be a quote-unquote leftist.

I'm just going to be on some real shit.

The burden is not on us.

The burden is not on Iran to prove it's worthy of the support of leftists.

The burden is on the historical tradition of the left wing to prove it is worthy of the revolutionary actuality of the Islamic Republic at this point.

The burden is on us to prove we're fucking worthy of Iran's aura.

The burden is on us to prove that the tradition we claim to be part of was historically just as revolutionary as Iran is right now.

Because Iran is at the avant-garde.

This is what we used to have.

We used to be like this.

We used to be at the avant-garde.

We used to be the ones confronting the empire.

We used to be the revolutionaries, right?

We're not anymore.

Or the people that claim to have our labels aren't anymore.

We need to soberly own up to that fact.

Like the followers of Imam Khomeini and the Islamic Republic actually are confronting the US Empire.

Those that claim to follow Lenin's tradition, those that claim to follow the Red Flag's tradition, those that claim to follow the Communist tradition, are sitting in Parisian cafes with scarves on, with glasses on, talking about liberation.

The aura is gone.

And we are trying desperately to bring it back.

Do you know how fucking hard it is?

We're trying so hard.

And as we're trying desperately to restore glory and honor and revolutionary, genuine revolutionary vigor and vitality to this tradition, the communist tradition, for that crime, these.

Pussies sit in their cafes and call us fascists.

At this point, why am I apologizing for repping Dugan sometimes?

Why am I apologizing for anything at this point?

We desperately need a revolutionary flame and a revolutionary edge that we lost.

I don't want to be in the same boat as these people.

Why am I apologizing for desperately trying to salvage our tradition to make it worthy of the actual revolutionary forces that exist in the world today?

I am sorry.

You know what?

I'll fucking say it.

Russian Nazbulls that fought in Donbass in 2015 are a million times more revolutionary than whatever the fuck this is.

Let's just get back to common sense.

Hezbollah, Iran, all these problematic, cancelable fucking people that these people call fascists.

They're the actual ones who are about some real ass shit.

As far as the record is so far, meanwhile, what has the Tudah party been doing?

What has the CPUSA been doing?

Talking about how we need to fight?

Even when they call us Nazbulls, even when they call us Nazbulls.

It's like, look, the actual Nazbulls in Russia who were part of Lomanov's formation, but those guys were actually in the trenches in Donbass fighting with guns against Nazis, right?

And while the CPUSA was canvassing for Barack Obama, that's what they were doing.

Or canvassing for Hillary.

Literally, the same period.

There were two things happening in the world.

The actual Russian Nazbulls were fighting Nazis in the trenches of Ukraine while the CPUSA was canvassing for Hillary Clinton.

I'm not even kidding.

So, like, when they call us Nazbulls, are we supposed to be offended at this point?

I would be more offended if I was lumped in with the KKE dominant tendency within SolidNet of these pussy Euro communist, piece of shit, fucking pussy bitches, nothing fucking piece of shit, social democrat.

I'm trying not to use slurs, these fucking social democrat pissants, devoid of vigor, devoid of any revolutionary edge whatsoever, complete fucking pussy sellout bitches.

I would be way more embarrassed to be associated with these fucking people than I would be scared of being associated with the so-called boogeyman of the Nazbulls in Russia.

Way more scared of being associated.

Than the Parisian cafe communists sitting around with their fucking scarves and glasses.

Oh, the liberation.

Ah, fuck your liberation, bitch.

I'm for slavery now.

I'm for collectivized Asiatic slavery.

We all are slaves to Allah.

That's what I'm for.

Fuck your satanic Luciferian liberation, bitch.

Shove it up your ass.

You have to prove you're worthy of Hezbollah at this point.

They don't.

Hezbollah, Iran, all the problematics, even Dugan, all that shit, they don't have to prove anything to you.

You have to prove you're worthy of that.

You have to prove you're worthy of the aura of a Wagner fighter in Donbass at this point.

They don't have nobody has to prove they're worthy of you.

You have nothing.

You are a social democrat piece of shit sellout.

You're not a revolutionary.

There's not a single there's not a single

part of Lenin's fire and Lenin's flame that has survived into whatever the fuck this is.

Are you kidding?

You think these people are Bolsheviks?

Is this giving Bolshevik to you?

These are social democrat pieces of shit liberals.

You absolute traitor, scum, absolute fucking eunuchs.

You dare fucking insult us trying to throw these labels on us if it cancels us.

What the fuck are you?

No, they're not even Mensheviks.

At least Mensheviks participated in the nineteen oh five revolution.

These people are not Mensheviks.

These people at this point these are social Hitlerites.

These are fucking social democrats.

These are like such feckless, spineless, devoid of substance.

They have no bones in their body.

They're fucking jellyfish.

What is this?

This is Nasdaile communism.

Welcome to Israel.

Like, what is this?

And these people dare talk that shit on us.

These people dare try to talk that shit on us.

We desperately are trying to prove the Communist tradition is worthy of the existing revolutionary forces in the world today.

At this point, like Western leftists are such gatekeepers, and the worst and most sickening part is they think they're the moral arbiter of the universe.

We decide what's moral, and you don't decide a fucking thing, you pissant.

Go vote for Kamala Harris, you fucking useless bitch.

You don't decide a fucking thing.

Who the f no, I'm saying, who the fuck are you?

Why do they grandstand on this moral superiority?

Where is your moral where's the proof of your moral superiority?

How has the cosmos shown

It's favorable disposition toward you.

Are you actually moral?

What about you is actually moral?

You are not moral.

You are immoral, you bitch.

Ones if my mic is okay.

So, ban this fucking asshole, Michael Floyd.

Get rid of him for the rest of your life.

You're never allowed.

Three-month subscriber.

I have no regrets banning your bitch ass.

You're done forever.

Go fucking make a new account, bitch.

I just don't understand why I'm why do I like spend so much time apologizing and trying to you know what bitch like that man that fucking remember that fucking retard on YouTube Joe says like remember that I'm thinking you know what Iron's got me thinking about it's like remember that fucking guy on YouTube

The A C P are mega com the mega communists are Laurentites and the Mega Communists are remember that fucking YouTube guy?

Remember that guy?

It's like, what are we defending ourselves against, though?

Like, oh.

They are not part of the real left.

Who the fuck is the real left?

Who the fuck are you?

Iran is at the vanguard of this.

Bitch, I will be begging to be part of the Ayatollah's aura and his movement and be associated with that.

I don't want to be associated with you, bitch ass.

Mike Rand and Brandon Torres.

I don't want to be associated with you.

You have no aura.

You have no motion.

You have nothing.

Why the fuck would I be begging to be associated with you fucking bum fuck losers who are nothing but piss ants, counter-revolutionary social democrat pieces of shit, limp-wristed fucking Democrat supporters?

Zoran Mamdani, yeah, that's what you fucking are, Zoran Mamdani, or Socialism for All who's a Green Party supporter.

Literally shove it up your ass, you're not about shit, bitch, you're not a revolutionary.

I a real one is a revolutionary first.

You understand?

They're saying

I am desperately saving Marxism from these people.

But notice what I'm doing.

I'm saving Marxism.

Meaning, if we don't get real, if we're not about

Our

You know, if we don't

Save Marxism in the way that we're doing, it's going to be in the dustbin of history forever.

And Lenin's legacy and his lineage will just be forgotten and lost forever.

I visited Lenin physically, okay?

I have such a close spiritual proximity to that history, to that legacy.

I know for a fact it's not this.

I know for a fact it's not this.

I know for a fact the Bolshevik history was more, right?

Lucas, but it's being forgotten.

And these people are destroying it.

They're turning it into something really gay.

For lack of a better word, they're turning it into something just fake.

They're turning it into something like fake and domesticated and like.

Barney the dinosaur.

I don't know what the fuck to call it.

It's not y th this is not the Bolshevik way.

At this point, Russian Nazbuls are more revolutionary than than whatever the fuck these Euro communist pieces of shit trash are.

Um

You know, they always call us Nazbulls, but now it just kind of dawned on me in an age where Iran is at the revolutionary vanguard of the world today.

Should we be crying?

I mean, we're not Nazbulls, we're not.

I hate Nazbul memes, they're really ugly.

But the Russian Nazbuls who fought in Donbass and who spent the entire, like, nineteen nineties and early two thousands, like, throwing Molotov cocktails at oligarchs uh, I I don't know.

I kind of feel like they're a little bit less fascist than

The Communist Party of Israel.

I think, yeah, yeah.

I think the Russian Nazbuls who were throwing Molotovs at like Zionist oligarchs probably are a little less fascist in actuality than the Communist Party of Israel.

Oh, I understand.

The Communist Party of Israel.

Oh, no, no, I understand though.

I understand.

The Communist Party of Israel, they're so nice.

They're part of your subculture.

They're nice and they have the cafe.

And there's probably some guy who has an acoustic guitar who's in an Israeli cafe in Haifa or whatever.

And Tel Aviv, who's like, Shalom, Shalek We love Shai minorities of the L G B.

Halo, Shalom, Na Shalom And he's such a nice guy, and they're all just nice people and they have septum piercings maybe and they're so nice and they're they're like Liberation

No more slot shaming, like all that wholesome shit, right?

And then the Russian Nazbulls are throwing Molotovs at people.

I get it.

I get it, but.

I think the fascists are actually the acoustic guitar guy.

I think that's actually the real fascist, actually.

Because I don't think fascism is about some aesthetic.

I don't think it's actually about your cultural disposition and your temperament.

Unlike what Theodore Adorno, another Zionist and Horkheimer are trying to push, that it's a personality.

I don't think fascism is a personality.

I think fascism is a.

Is the dictatorship of uh you know fi monopoly finance capital?

It's about exterminating other nations and destroying, liquidating their productive forces, liquidating them on the basis of your own sense of uh you know national superiority or whatever.

I think it's a type of militarist aggression on behalf of international finance capital.

And you know what description that fits?

Well, ask Nas Daily.

Welcome to Israel.

I think that's Israel.

I don't care how much they're smiling and how liberal they are and how much their women are wearing mini skirts and how punk rock they are or whatever.

They are more fascist.

I don't care that they have an acoustic guitar and they go, they're playing sometimes.

And on the min the fireflies, and on the fireflies.

And I don't, that doesn't mean they're not fascist.

That doesn't mean anything.

That doesn't mean they're not just as violent as the Russian Nazbul who threw Molotovs at people.

Because.

It's a more eunuch-like, disgusting form of violence where you're participating in the genocide and extermination of an entire people, but you don't take responsibility for all the hideousness and ugliness of it.

You sanitize of it.

You sanitize that aspect from yourself and you pretend to be morally superior because it's not tainting your image and your aesthetics.

Why is the CPUSA, the so-called CPU say, why are they not canceled for being fascists when they are taking this position?

Imagine if we are Nazi Germany.

And Iran is like the USSR, for example.

If you were living in America in the 1940s and a so-called American Communist outfit was talking about how they denounce the Soviet government while simultaneously somehow denouncing the attack and it's what Trotskyites did, by the way, wouldn't you at least in some way make a connection and say these are fascist collaborators, these are absolutely people who are apologizing.

For the fascist aggression by not unconditionally supporting the state that's fighting valiantly and heroically in self-defense.

We would.

So why do why do why are we getting canceled and they're not?

Because cancel culture is literally for bitches.

That's why.

Because cancel culture is for fucking bitches.

If you're participating in cancel culture, these are the dynamics you reinforce.

Because if cancel culture, if this like, oh, if this fear-mongering over the so-called boogeyman of the so-called fascism was so legitimate, why isn't the CPUSA canceled in the same way?

Why are there no why is there no pearl clutching over the CPUSA in the same way there is about ACP?

Because we scare

low testosterone males.

And I'm sick of pretending we don't.

We scare them, we intimidate them, we make them uncomfy, we force them to confront the fact that they are useless, worthless men.

And uh

We make them feel bad about that aspect of themselves, that they are just

Itches.

I don't know what else to say.

And they are, these are just like morally corrupt people who's more they have this weasel-like disposition that really is just incompatible with the type of real motherfucker shit that we put out.

And they just don't fuck with us for that reason.

And that's why they constantly call us fascists because they associate fascism with paternalistic aggression or something, with fatherly aggression or something.

It is so psychological for them, right?

But I can't believe we're living in an age where we get canceled and the CPUSA does not, even though they are signing joint statements with the NAS Daily Communist Party.

The NAS Daily Communist Party, along with the Tudor Party of Iran, which collaborates with the U.S.

State Department.

By the way,

And then these people, can I sing the lamentations?

Should I be singing the I should be singing the lamentations at this point?

Because these are the same people that honest to God, their members.

I see it on Instagram and TikTok all the time.

They're members called they fed Jacket Jackson and they're working with the State Department back Tuda Party.

Hey!

Hey.

Uh

I just gotta sing the Lamentations.

I had to sing the lamentations of the injustice.

These people fedjacket us.

They call us feds.

They call us F they're working with the State Department backed Tuda party alongside the Communist Party of Israel.

I just gotta sing the suffering and the pain and the lamentations.

I just gotta sing it out because there's nothing else you could do.

It's just so it's just like so fundamentally unjust.

It's so unjust.

It's just so unjust.

It's just so un isn't it is it not unjust?

Is it not unjust?

Is it not fundamentally unjust?

Anyway, uh nobody's requesting to speak because nobody will debate me.

Of course not.

Of course not.

Of course not.

Anyway, the Iran conflict doesn't look like it's going to be wrapped up any time soon.

I could be wrong about that, but from what I'm seeing they're claiming it's going to last up until and through September.

Which is pretty fucking crazy, right?

And uh it looks like this is gonna be the US version of the SMO.

Believe it or not, it looks like that's what it's going to be.

And it could last a long time, especially and and Hegseth is already hinting at this, especially if it becomes a ground war.

Now, if this becomes a ground war, then it's going to change fundamentally from what it currently is.

And there's nothing the Iranians want more than for this to turn into a ground war, by the way.

They're waiting.

Just like the guy said, they're waiting desperately.

For this to become a ground war, right?

Now, there's so much stuff I have to cover.

I wanna I wanna cover Serno Sad.

I want to.

I really don't want to, but I'm going to because uh he ratioed us.

Can you believe it?

The anime guy ratioed us.

So Cerno said, Oh my god, this guy is the most cancerous fuck of all time.

Like, he literally has millions of tweets every second.

Holy fuck.

I'm not going through his timeline.

The guy literally won't shut the fuck up.

I have to go on Yugo Pink's fucking profile.

Alright.

So th okay, so thankfully Yugo Pink Avenged Us, which is actually quite nice actually.

Yugo Pink Avenged Us.

Uh Yugopnik.

That's what his name.

Yugopinik.

Yugopnik.

Got it.

I thought his name was Yugopink.

Um

So

They go, uh, can the commies all right, so he he ratioed him, but we got ratioed by him.

So we made a tweet, Israel isn't a real country, it's propped up proxy for US imperialism, the dissolution of the state of Israel is necessary for the working class victory.

And then Cerno said the anime profile picture LARPer, that's what he is.

He's a fucking LARPer.

And I'll explain why.

Can the commies please shut the fuck up already?

It's the Jews.

Why are you censoring Jews?

I don't know.

Everyone knows now.

Your economic theory's bullshit was written by one of them.

Just sit down and shut up.

Accept being wrong and fight the machine alongside us.

The Nat Sox were right.

You were wrong.

Okay.

I am gonna clear my nose out a little because I am a little congested.

I'll be right back before I explain the fine details and niceties of this profound contribution.

Alright, now, um I don't know where to begin actually.

There's just so much here to work with.

First of all, um

I don't understand how

The Jews has more analytical utility than US imperialism.

Because

What he's talking about is an abstraction, whereas what we're talking about is a concrete global system.

And none of us are squeamish about having to point out the fact that powerful Jews play a big role in that global system.

None of us are politically correct or scared of saying that.

But when you just say it's the Jews, you're not giving us many pointers.

You're not really clarifying anything for us.

You're just resorting to an abstraction.

U.S.

imperialism is a concrete global system that is beyond the U.S.

government in its enumerated capacity.

It absolutely bleeds into the private sector and international banks and so on and so on.

So, there's nobody's really claiming this whole debate about what's the pecking order.

Does the U.S.

control Israel or vice versa?

I've talked about this many times.

The answer is that it's neither.

There is a transnational global capitalist class, organized capitalist class that controls.

The US and also controls Israel.

And the reason Israel dominates official US foreign policy

And dominates America at large more.

Yes, America's under a Zionist occupation.

But that's not because the state of Israel is that powerful.

It's that

The US Constitution reflects less the interests of this global capitalist class than the Zionist state does in actuality.

And stupid people aren't gonna understand that.

So I have to explain it uh i with more simplification, I guess.

In the U.S., what we're seeing are constant violations of the U.S.

Constitution.

And

These violations line up with the interests of Israel as a state, but the only reason for that is that Israel as a state is more directly reflective of the interests of the same shadow regime that controls both the US and Israel.

U.S.

Constitution was written what, you know, in 1776.

So we're talking about a long time ago.

Okay, we're talking about nearly 300 years ago, right?

Israel is today carrying out directly the will of the global capitalist class.

The concrete one, the concrete system of U.S.

imperialism.

So, U.S.

imperialism is not an extension of the U.S.

Constitution.

It's not an extension of any enumerated republican institution.

U.S.

imperialism is a concrete global system whose centers of power are not officially the same thing as the U.S.

government.

People need to understand that.

But this is this is too profound and just too intellectual for what I'm dealing with here, okay?

Serno Sad is a retarded LARPer who's telling us that the Nat Sox were right.

The who?

The who?

You know what he's talking about, right?

He's talking about an online anime LARP Discord community.

He's talking about a series of online fucking LARPers who put swastikas on anime girls with anime skirts, anime schoolgirls, and they put swastikas on their skirts and they say, these are the Nat Sox.

Who the fuck are you, bitch?

You aren't a fucking actual political force.

You're not even organized in real life in any kind of fucking way.

So when he says the Nat Sox, what is he actually fucking talking about?

He's talking about an online Poland ball.

You know, those fucking polit ball, the polit ball thing, the little balls that have political ideologies on them.

That's what he's talking.

I'm not even kidding.

He's talking about that.

Oh, the Nat Sox.

Who are the Nat Sox?

What are you?

You're not, you don't exist in real life.

You're not organized in any fucking way.

He is quote tweeting a real life, actually existing organized party.

For better or for worse, the ACP is fucking real, right?

He's going.

No, you commies are wrong.

The Nat Sox are right.

Bro, who?

Who are you talking about?

Who is right?

No, no, think about it.

Like are it's a series of Discord anime servers.

That rep swastikas or whatever.

And he's pretending like we should take seriously this ideology which doesn't even exist in the real world, the Nat Sox.

Bro, what does that mean?

What does that actually fucking mean?

Like point to me concretely what that actually refers to in real life.

He's basically talking about some curatorial tendency of: I like these reels, I like these edits of Hitler, I like, you know, I subscribe to this.

This internet community.

Okay?

Like who but who the fuck act you're not an actual force in the real life that actually exists in any fucking way.

So shut the sit sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up.

Why are you quote tweeting an actual real life party while flexing some non-existent nebulous the Nat Sox?

What does that even fucking refer to?

It's nothing.

It means nothing and is nothing.

'Cause the minute your bitch ass steps into the real world and tries to put those so-called Nat Sock values into practice,

You're gonna fail step one, organizing a party of more than three people.

Why?

Because the guy who's five percent.

Uh, you know, Ecuadorian is gonna fight with the guy who's 2% African, and they're gonna decide who's more Aryan than it's like the minute you try to make this real in real life, your LAR, your internet LARP fest, I get it, dude.

I get it.

Your Gary's mod server, I get it.

Your ideology is like so means so much on your Gary's mod dark RP server.

I get it.

Bro, I get it.

On your Roblox server, I understand.

Like, it's a real faction.

No, no, I get it.

On your Roblox server, it's a real faction, right?

But in real life, no, no, bro, I get it.

On your Gary's mod Dark RP server, the Nat Sox are totally a thing.

It's totally a real faction that exists.

Um no, no, on your Roblox server, I totally get it.

It's like a real oh yeah, you can refer oh, they were right, yeah, it's a re they were right, yeah, the Nat Sox were right about the admin abuse.

About how the moderator was giving free Robux and there was corruption going on in the server.

I get it, dude.

You're a real thing.

It's a real your yeah, your 1942 RP Gary's mod server.

I get it, dude.

It's real on that server.

No, no, I get it.

Trust me.

It's so real.

It's so it exists.

It's actually a real thing.

In real life.

But buddy, buddy, sit down though.

We're talking about real life, though, right?

We're talking about the Iran war.

You're not a force that exists in the real world when it comes to the Iran war, okay?

I'm not claiming my side.

It has such a huge right to brag, we're not a huge party and the communist movement in America basically doesn't exist outside of us.

And I get that, but we have proven we can be real and we are an actual thing, and we have actually existed in the real world.

Communist movements do exist.

Natzok movements don't exist, they're all retarded LARP.

They've never actually amounted to anything.

Name me a single country outside of Nazi Germany, which whose whole ideology was based on winning wars, then they lost the war.

After that, name me a single time Nat Sox could put their ideas to practice and seize power anywhere.

Name me a single time that ever happened.

Just shut the fuck up, bro.

Sit the fuck down, buddy.

Sit like, I am trying desperately.

to have a mating of successful outlooks.

Iranian, Islamic, mystical, revolutionary outlook with the Marxist-Leninist tradition.

I am absolutely trying.

To create a bridge between those things, you are trying to create a bridge between one Roblox server and a Gary's Mod 1942 Dark RP server.

That's what you're fucking doing.

I am trying to make an understanding between real life, successful, revolutionary traditions.

You are trying to make an alliance between Dark RP, Gary's Mod servers.

We are not in the same league, bro.

Sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up.

Your ideology is just as real as the anime girl that you rep in your profile picture.

Sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up and know your fucking place, you stupid LARPing piece of shit.

You're nothing.

You are a nothing.

You don't have the right to talk to us.

You have an anime profile picture for fuck's sake.

And you live in Australia.

Why is an Australian with an anime profile picture talking about the Nat Sox interacting with the American Communist Party?

What is going on?

You live in Australia.

Why are you talking to us?

What is the point of this?

Do you mean to tell me that a Australian Natsock movement is about to seize control?

And you know what the best part of this is?

He goes

Nasrallah, I do this for you in his description.

You see that?

Isn't this the best part?

And then

This is what Nasrallah actually said.

He said the same shit that the ACP said.

He's gotten remember he's gotten a Srala in his uh

In his bio, he's written a Sarola said.

Allah tisal al-Akhir men baiden, be akid kill alikin oloseban anullah al-Amarkem basbaddon.

You suddenly what for what be what for?

Anul Amerki Mabiada Yufod al-Israeli Ada Hakifadi.

No power fiac nazaviet.

And no Sava ille he hack me America La Habibet.

America ill hack me sawi.

I also to Lubili Yahudi Usa Yuni Hi Matuerzuni.

Nikti Awabiye Baslahata Lawabe.

And at a time where Iran is bombing these retarded, fat ass, Gulf Arab states, could this not be more topical?

These fat ass, retarded Gulf Arabs were sitting on their ass, Qatar and all of them helped create this myth of the omnipotence of the Jewish lobby.

Because they wanted an excuse for why they wouldn't get off their fat fucking ass and do something themselves.

And that's the darn truth.

Yes, the Jewish lobby yeah, the Jews, the j organized Jewish lobby in America, Zionist lobby.

Uh absolutely they're aggressive, absolutely restlessly, they're restlessly, restlessly plotting and scheming.

I know they are, I get it.

But they're not as powerful as the Cernosads want you to make us think they are, because what they're trying to turn them into is invincible leprechauns whose will cannot be contradicted.

That is blatantly false.

Zionists are not that smart.

In fact,

Have the lowest intelligence among the entire Jewish race, or whatever you want to call them.

The Zionists are retarded.

It doesn't get deeper than Alan Dershowitz and Rabbi Shmuly.

These are not smart people.

Even Jeffrey Epstein was a fucking brain-lit retard.

So this idea that they're invincible and there you there's nothing you can no no no, g give me a fucking break, okay?

Shabos Kestenbaum is the smartest Zionist there probably is, and he's retarded, right?

Shabos Kestenbaum is not the smartest guy in the world.

I'm sorry.

He goes, Your theory was created by one of them.

It's like

You have an anime profile picture, you live in Australia, you have a cross in your username.

And you you claim to be a Natsock.

Why are you even opening your mouth about anything that exists in the world in the first place?

Yeah, while LARPing as a Russian, what is going on?

Listen, Nasrallah really nuked these fucking people.

I'm not sure if I can do it.

Reano al Amu al Arabiya kulam kaddasi til chazain la mewikiyya.

He this was such an intelligent observation he made.

This is Arab excuse Arab tether excuse of a bunch of traders and sellouts that kissed the fucking ass of the fucking US dollar.

Worship the US dollar.

Bunch of fucking fat ass useless Arabs.

No, the the Zionists and the Jews are not all powerful.

They're not.

Randy Fine is not the smartest guy and most adversarially challenging opponent we're ever gonna face.

If Zionists are lapping you up, Sernosad, it's literally 'cause you're a fucking retard.

Okay, deadass.

Deadass.

Dead ass.

I will bet mil I'm willing to bet every everything I own to my name.

That Iranians are much more intelligent.

than Zionist Jews.

Iranians are much more s intelligent, sophisticated, and cunning than Zionist Jews.

Because think about this.

Ones if you can hear me fine.

Alright, I'm I'm just gonna ban this piece of shit.

Get the fuck out of here.

Thirteen month subscriber, I'll give you one chance to fucking apologize for saying you can't hear.

One chance to apologize.

If you d if you don't apologize, ban him.

Alright, anyway.

Look.

If you switched spots between the Zionists and the Iranians against overwhelming odds, think about I want you to think about this.

If the most powerful empire in the world

was targeting you and marked you for death.

And keep this in mind, the West got a head start, 500-year head start, and the Industrial Revolution and colonialism.

They concentrated and accumulated all the world's wealth and resources in these small centers in Europe and America.

So they had that head start.

Uh because of the steam engine and and uh you know the naval technology that developed, yada yada yada.

And so Zionist just aped off of the head start the West got.

What?

Could Zioners

Would they have the intelligence to pull off what Iran has and against overwhelming odds build the missile capacity that it has, against overwhelming odds go toe to toe with not only the most powerful empire in the history of the world, but the culmination of 500 years of a head start of the West's colonialism?

And technological advance over the rest of the world, America's the culmination of that.

How can little Iran go toe-to-toe and actually be challenging as an opponent to the culmination of modernity itself, the U.S.

Empire?

How is it able to fucking do that?

You have to understand how intelligent these Iranians are.

You're dealing with a level of intelligence that's almost superhuman.

If anyone is intelligent, you know, to the point where you should be like, oh my God, they're like aliens.

It's the Iranians.

It's not the Zionist Jews who are all like Randy Fine and Shabbos Kestenbaum and Rabbi Shmooly.

They're that fucking stupid.

Yuval Noah Harari, Sapiens, the author of Sapiens, Retard, Sam Altman, Retard, CEOs of these big tech companies, fucking retards.

They're not actually smart.

They're welfare queens.

They're fucking bums that are aping off of the culmination of 500 years of Western colonialism.

That's all they're fucking doing.

They're not that smart.

They're really not.

Iranians are so much smarter than them.

Because if the roles were reversed, could the Zionists be in Iran's shoes?

Fuck no, they couldn't.

Are you kidding?

Could designists from scratch

Build a resistance against the entire fucking West?

No, it couldn't.

You know?

You're dealing with people fighting an uphill battle, going up against the most powerful formations in history to this point.

They just started waking up.

They've just started to embrace modernity.

They didn't even know what it was before then.

It struck them like lightning.

And we're seeing who's smart and who's retarded in real time.

Uh

Like a Ka oh god, Kamikilla is here.

All right, Kamikilla, can you cough a few times before you uh turn your mic on?

We all know that you suffer from sickness.

Qu did you remove him, QFK?

What happened?

No, he's still here.

Alright, Kamikila, go ahead.

Yeah, hello?

Yo, unmute yourself.

Un fucking mute yourself, holy shit.

He dropped down.

Okay, that's great.

And uh

I imagine nobody okay, nobody wants to nobody likes this topic.

Let's just say uh debating.

Say debating pro-Zionist.

They won't debate, though.

'Cause it's not up for debate according to them, right?

Yeah, nobody wants to div I was thinking the Drew Pavloo types would join, but uh they're not gonna join.

So we're gonna wait for uh others.

Pahalavi supporters will not join this fucking debate.

This guy named Apollo, proudly anti-liberal uh, proudly okay, I don't know if I don't think this guy is opposed to us.

Go ahead, Apollo.

Go ahead, Apollo.

Go ahead, Apollo.

He dropped down.

Alright.

Alright, well

Alright, well look.

Twitter's been acting up today, yeah.

I heard.

I look fucking homeless as fuck.

I should have showered before the stream.

I was in the rain.

But anyway, it's okay.

Two K.

Uh yeah, I mean look guys, d we're facing a big crisis, which is that

Believe it or not, I this is what I'm scared of.

I'm scared that the word communism is no longer even

It no longer even has a revolutionary connotation anymore because of these disgusting Euro-communist.

Yeah.

KKE, you know, these LARPing, these social democrat pieces of shit who turned it into this happy rainbow fun time sunshine bullshit movement instead of the revolutionary movement from Lenin's era, right?

Instead of Mao and Lenin's revolutionary movement, instead of Stalin, instead of this dark Mali type, we are dark Ma Li communists, right?

But these people.

They've domesticated and whitewashed communism so much, it's become so cringe and toothless.

That the most radical the most radical form it takes now is

Calling for a genocide of cisgender people as a joke.

And, you know, I don't know, like

I feel like I've been beating a dead horse for years on this.

But Iran is so much more revolutionary than them.

Do you notice that?

Iran is actually giving the US Empire a bloody nose.

Standing on business on some real shit.

Iran is on some real shit.

The cop the dominant

Communists of today, where are they?

Where are they?

You know, some people say we need to abandon the label communism 'cause it's too radical.

I worry about the opposite.

I worry that the label is no longer radical.

I worry that for some people it's very tame actually, that it's very uh

It's very wholesome and it's very much, you know, uh social democrat, you know, the your legs are crossed in the cafe with the scarf on.

It's really disgusting, it sickens me.

And I was talking about this and uh

It's simply not at the cutting edge because of these revisionist pieces of shit, these swine, who have completely these traitors, who have completely fucking liquidated and erased the revolutionary essence.

And uh why I'm saying this is because it should be a it should be a pause for consideration.

Iran Iran is the revolutionary force in the world today.

And meanwhile, leftists are still gibbering and debating amongst themselves about whether Iran is worthy of their support.

Buddy, Iran has outpaced you.

Iran is already on the move at the revolutionary vanguard and your bitch ass is sitting in a cafe doing nothing.

It's like you are no longer the most revolutionary outlook in the world today.

That should bother you if you're a Marxist, shouldn't it?

Apollo, what's up?

Hey, my bad man, the uh the mic wouldn't work so I couldn't really uh get on.

I just want to say, man, um, how long do you think the uh the petro dollar has until uh it goes crash?

Uh this is a debate space, alright.

I don't wanna talk about random topics.

I don't believe I I don't uh I just I just

I just I just I just I just I'm so bored by that question.

I'm sorry.

And no one will debate me.

It's so fascinating.

It's so fascinating.

No one will debate me.

Oh, this guy named Baba Bowie.

Who the fuck is this?

He's got their Reese's teacher's pet from Reese's schools out as a profile picture.

Go ahead.

Go ahead, we need better bait.

100% we need better bait.

I guess no one is pro-Zionist today.

Right.

I added him and then he fucking quit.

It's always just happening.

Everyone should just drop twenty subs.

We just need the energy.

We need the energy going.

We need we need our we need an energetic

I'm going to do a saline rinse as soon as the stream is over.

We need an energetic reshuffle because this is just atrocious.

The content is coming.

Hold on.

We're gonna change the space title.

I was like the thing is that the best you know what the best content is and always has been?

The best content has always been debating leftists.

It's always been the best content, right?

Amilo, what's up?

The best content we've ever done is debate leftists in 22.

They do not debate because they are so easy to fucking dogwalk.

They are the easiest debate opponents by far as leftists.

They're so fucking easy to destroy.

They don't even pose a chance, right?

Zerwin, what's up?

But the problem, Zerwini, bro, thank you.

Thank you so much.

The problem, Suez, what's up, bro, with the 20.

Holy fuck.

Actually, Sue is dropped the 20.

What the fuck?

Shout out to Suez, bro.

That's some real ass shit.

Zerwini, Suez, thank you guys.

Appreciate you.

Um, the thing is, they don't debate because they don't have honor, right?

Rocksov, what's up?

The problem, I'll tell you the truth, guys.

The leftists have become so estrogenic, they don't feel called out.

When you challenge, usually, when you challenge people, there's like an honor thing.

Oh, you're saying I'm not shit.

That's what I'm saying.

Like, look, I'm gonna be real.

I'm about to say some transphobic, whatever.

I gotta watch what I say, right?

But look, leftists, when you tell them, hey bitch, you ain't nothing!

Stand on business and debate, or else you a little bitch.

And these low testosterone leftist males are like, Well, you know what?

I am a bitch and I'm part of it.

Like, that's the problem.

That's why they don't debate.

They don't have pride or honor at all.

They have already conceded by virtue of their existence.

It's like, yo, debate, or you ain't got balls.

They're like, oh, yeah, I don't have balls.

And they chop off their, I don't know.

I'm just saying, I'm just telling you how it is.

Like, they don't have honor.

They don't have anything to stand on.

They don't have any pride.

They don't have any like, I have, I want to be dominant and I want to conquer.

They don't have that.

Middle-aged, what's up?

I'm just saying they don't debate, they won't confront, they won't do any of that.

Remember oh oh, I didn't even cover this.

Why did I not cover this?

Holy shit.

Someone please put it in show request because I lost it.

Okay, I'm gonna try to find it right here.

I'm going to try to find it.

Dead ass, this is one of the craziest things.

I'm just going to make the title Debating Anti-ACP for now.

I just want to show you guys some shit that, uh,.

This was like the funniest thing.

Like genuinely this level of posturing by an MUG.

An M U G, D S A M U G.

Are y'all ready?

This guy is in DSA.

He's in MUG DSA, right?

Watch this shit.

Look at the ridiculousness.

ACP would be put down in it

Under my regime?

Ain't say paying when they put down.

Under my regime?

You're toast.

Oh my god.

I'm so scared.

Under your regime.

Literally he's playing with Barbie dolls, imagining a scenario in which he would have any power at all.

He claims he's a special ed teacher.

Hey They say the best teachers have a lot in common with their students.

And then ACB would be put down.

Putting down freak ops would be good, actually.

Oh my god, he didn't even pull off the ratio, he lost.

Uh calling us free cops.

Sure, buddy.

Whatever, if it kills.

So he's literally saying free cops are okay.

If it kills the national.

I'm not going to get into it.

There's something funny that I saw, though.

It's right here.

That was a promise, not a threat.

Not worth responding to these people.

When their politics are on the I've never seen an MUG person in person ever in my life anywhere.

I've seen many ACP people.

You can find ACP people quite easily.

I've never met one of these people in real life outside of Twitter.

Hold on, where did he say this really funny thing though?

I just wanted this, like, this is crazy, right?

Ah, okay.

You still think this is a conversation?

Let me switch this up.

I do not consider you capable of having a conversation.

The ACP is a petite bourgeois, far-right deviation.

Even that's being too kind.

There is nothing radical about them.

I wish them the worst.

Bye.

Under my regime you would be put down.

But I am so tough and I am so convinced listen, under my regime, you would be put down.

That is not a promise sorry, that is not a threat, it's a promise.

Ah, but you think we are having a conversation.

Let me switch it.

Bro, is this like this is the most terminal Reddit voice I've ever heard in my life?

And the funniest part of all this is that I know this guy's just some like retarded guy on the internet, but like, isn't it funny how, like, in real life, I just beat the brakes off of him and he starts crying?

Isn't it funny?

Like, he's talking big shit.

He's gonna do something to ACP.

And then I just beat the shit out of him.

And then he's crying on the ground.

Like, okay.

Would he be a victim?

I don't know.

Like, imagine this guy, he just gets his ass beat.

Like, honestly, you talk this big shit.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know what your kind of energy you're asking for when you talk this big shit.

You're gonna put us down.

Okay, buddy.

We're gonna, we'll test that for sure.

We'll test that for sure.

Um under my regime, you're gonna be put down.

Buddy, under my reality, I'm gonna curb stomp your bitch ass in a video game.

Ah, like, why do we have to LARP these future scenarios?

You have a fucking problem with us, confront us, bitch, right?

Like the guy who has too much social anxiety to debate me with his voice is grandstanding about how they're going to put us down in this future scenario where they're in power.

At a time when their government is at war with Iran, they're not going to do a fucking thing, you bitch ass.

You're not going to do shit.

You ain't shit.

Think about it.

Think about it.

Like, if they're too scared to debate, I'm not even kidding.

They're afraid.

You're going to be fighting anyone in any scenario?

Fucking hilarious.

Uh but yeah, I mean look

We we need better bait.

Less the uh I was just having to do the baiting the far right.

That's the best one.

That's always the best one.

Purple Tuesday

Hello.

Purple Tuesday, go ahead.

Hello, everybody.

Hello, Haz.

Um, I just had a I'm not like completely opposed to the ACP, but I was maybe a little bit of criticism.

I'm not sure if you're thinking that or at all.

But I was curious about um

Literally, when there's a bunch of online, I feel like too many people on ACP, there is like not unified, I would say, sort of like, I don't know how to explain it, but it's like all over the place.

It's kind of uh it's a bit messy.

That's what I would say.

That's all right.

Are you high?

No.

Okay.

What do you mean?

I was saying, like, because whenever I see these posts, I've seen like a lot of ACP posters.

They're online.

And for example, I was looking at RSRTSG and stuff that he kind of posts is like gets okay.

I'll just jump off.

It's just stupid shit that I was thinking, but I feel like it's not effective the way it's going now.

But I'm who am I anyway?

All right.

I don't know what you're talking about at all.

Okay.

Take it, guys.

My pointer, okay, let me try to explain it clearly.

I feel like, yes, it's a good strategy to post online to speak up and all that stuff.

At the same time, I feel like the America First People, they sort of have better memes.

They sort of have like maybe, I don't know, that's what I feel like.

Um I disagree.

I think their memes are dog shit and retarded.

A lot of them are, but they have better like how do I say?

They have like uh

Maybe this is just uh progress, maybe you guys are going to be working towards it, like growing this movement, but that's what I see from my perspective right now.

Uh do let me ask you a question.

Do you think they use bots?

They probably do.

Amanda, what's up?

Yeah, they just use bots, bro.

They don't have good memes.

They just use bots.

I'm not even kidding.

They use bots.

We have proof of it.

We don't know where they're getting the bots from.

We actually think that they might have enough resources to have one of those phone farms.

Straight up, I think that's pretty.

It's kind of becoming.

I think they have one of those phone farms that they have.

I don't know where it is yet.

We don't know yet who's giving it to them, but they definitely have that shit.

Okay.

I hope the best for you guys.

Well, you can make some ACP memes to show us how it's done.

I will try.

Take care, guys.

Take care.

Okay.

We have a Epsteinite pedophile that wants to speak the Epstein.

Go ahead, that Epstein.

That island.

Go ahead, that island.

Go ahead, Island Boy.

Are you talking to me?

Yeah, I'm talking to you.

'Cause he's a island boy.

Go ahead.

Restalinization, that's what I'm talking about.

Go ahead, go ahead, Island boy, go ahead.

He just fucking left.

Eito, go ahead.

Eito.

Hey, what's up, Haz?

My name's Aaron.

I'm from Southwest, Florida, here.

I just want to you made a point about like the Western leftists and stuff.

And one of the things that kind of reminded me of like is because for me, like I like, I'm actually someone who actually is from the outside, actually kind of likes you guys, like the ACP.

I think you guys have a lot of good points.

But one thing that was in my back of my mind, because I've been reading a lot of books lately, one of those things was Black Kirks and Reds by Michael Parenti.

I think a lot of people really need to read that because, especially chapter four, it talks about communism or Wonderland and stuff, and how everyone has this utopian idea about what communism or socialism is.

And you're right.

It kind of like everyone whitewashes it.

You see it today.

You're absolutely right.

And for me, that was a turning point for me.

It was like, okay, I kind of understand it now.

It's not what I thought it was.

After reading someone like Parenti, it kind of revolutionized me more.

I understand those things were real.

What happened in Russia and Lenin's Day and stuff?

That was real.

Him reaching out to the peasants and stuff.

It was like, that's super important.

I don't know.

I just appreciate what you guys do and stuff.

So from the outside.

Why haven't you joined?

You're right.

I'm actually a reserve member.

I just haven't fully actually committed yet.

They're on some real shit.

They're doing some real shit.

Yeah, I've been seeing their stuff too, because I've been seeing them clean up Tampa and stuff.

You see, I live like.

Is that where one of the things is that?

Because I'm here in South.

I'm like two hours south from Tampa.

I live in the Fort Lyrics Cape Coral area.

You know what I'm saying?

We might have.

I don't know for sure, but uh listen, man, don't be a stranger, don't be shy, tap in, yeah, absolutely.

Um, another thing, the reason why I haven't joined too because I'm one of these days I need to check your email and uh finish the sign up as well.

Gotta check that email, yeah, absolutely.

And what another reason why I was holding back because what I want to, like, one day I want to move out west close to one of my siblings and stuff.

Um, don't worry about it.

We we can uh transfers when people move, it's super easy, but uh, okay, is to just start getting to know our people, you know?

Yeah, I've been seeing like Eddie's stuff, like, and whatnot.

Eddie's a really like that.

He's like, probably one of the main guys.

I've been seeing like all his old YouTube videos and stuff, too.

Like, I just want to give that shout out and that appreciation.

Like, you're absolutely right when it talks about these Western leftists today.

Like, they think it's some fucking utopia, or they think it's something like what Sweden has, or like Norway, which is like absolutely not, you know, like China, DPRK, Cuba.

Like, people really need to realize that.

Like, what the actual revolution is.

Like, you're right.

It's not some fucking rainbows and unicorns bullshit.

Like, you're absolutely right.

I think you can be on that.

All right, for sure, bro.

But that's all I want to say.

Peace out, guys.

All right.

See you later, bro.

Bye-bye.

Yes, sir.

Thank you, mate.

Alright, so we're back to Island Boy, the Nick Fuentes fan, the Island Boy.

So, Island Boy, why are you here?

Oh, I just wanted to say, like, uh, I met I met Eddie too and he's like five foot three maybe.

I was wondering if you're taller than him.

Oh, uh I I think you're confusing this for a gay gay app that you're on or something.

You're looking for some males, uh sizing them up and stuff.

I think you're in the wrong place, buddy.

Uh, I understand this is your community and this is what y'all are about, but I think you're in the maybe you clicked a few wrong buttons and you you got confused and lost.

By the way, Eddie would beat your ass.

Why am I even talking about it?

This guy is a.

I'm just trolling.

I'm a little frog.

It's just a joke to me.

All right, so what do you want?

Go ahead.

He's an island boy.

You know what's funny about these people?

They're actually all so small.

I'm not even kidding.

I didn't.

Why did he leave?

He left.

Bro, I'm not going to lie.

They are so small, these people.

Like, I remember one of them was talking shit.

Like, oh, you guys are so short.

You're so short.

He turns out a dead ass.

To be shorter than all of us.

Like buy a lot and I'm like, what the hell?

Anyway, I don't know what the point of it is.

Bro, just go get the leg lengthening surgery.

Like, why if it's bothering you so much, go change your surge go get the leg lengthening thing, right?

I'm sure you can afford it 'cause you're you guys are all rich and successful like Nick Fuenta says you are, right?

Go ahead, uh, NAFO Nate.

Hey, what's the best country to flee to in nuclear war?

Like a serious question.

It's random, but what do you think?

Uh best country to flee to.

Yeah, if there's like a giga nuclear war, where where would you go?

Kind of a retarded question.

Like it is retarded, yes.

So like, because if there's a nuclear war, you're not gonna have time to get out of the blast zone.

So what are you talking about?

Say like you knew that it was coming, like some insider told you there's a nuclear war coming.

I would say build a bunker, bro.

Get a bunker.

You wouldn't look up and smile at the end of capitalism?

Uh from my bunker I would, yeah.

Alright, well that's all I had.

Okay.

What kind of question is that?

You wouldn't look up and smile like, What the hell?

That doesn't mean you can't have a bunker.

What are we even talking about?

I don't know.

I have more questions but I forgot them, so Where's the Goipers at?

It's the same, it's the same people that always come.

You notice that?

It's the same people.

Same people that always request to speak.

It's always the same people.

It's liter this guy's literally been every space I've ever done.

We got the same cast of people.

And at this point, it's like there's some people that think when I do these spaces, it's like a hangout space.

Oh, this is my spot.

Let's go hang out with Haas at the hangout space.

It's the same three or four people that come.

And just they're so comfortable here.

They just uh they're they're always looking for the opportunity.

We never actually get challenged.

We're we're we're listening it's like I'm Don Quixote.

We're the age of honor and chivalry is over.

People don't stand on business anymore.

They don't actually defend what they believe anymore.

They don't actually debate.

They don't actually they've given up.

They've blackpilled.

They've given up on the possibility that

they can win debates or defend the honor of their beliefs and their position.

And it's very it's quite sad.

It's quite sad.

Uh, it's quite sad, you know, it's quite sad.

And but I'm always getting these bots in my Instagram.

I always get these people that are constantly ACP are landlords, ACP are this it's like look, it would take thirty seconds of a confrontation with these people.

To nuke them out of orbit and to just completely dismantle whatever line of attack they think they have against us.

I guess the the only one that they have is that they say we're bigoted on uh sexuality issues, which we're not, but I'm just saying it's not like we're waving flags and shit.

So it's like this is th th they think this is enough.

Okay, they're like

They're like, look, they'll be like, listen, ACP, you guys are.

What's some crazy shit they'll say?

They'll be like, Y'all are landlords and you uh beat up homeless people and you uh

You know, you you you hail Hitler and it's like, what, hey, hey, none of those things are true.

Yeah, but you're transphobic.

It's like, that's honestly the type of shit they're on.

It's like they have these actual like crazy lines of attack on us.

None of them have substance.

But they don't care because they did it ultimately boils down to the fact that we're not going to wave their stupid cringy LARP flags.

And it's like that's so sad.

I don't know.

It's not sad.

I'm just saying like why are you expecting communists to be on bo why are people less outraged about the so called CPUSA

Forming signing a joint statement with the Tudah Party and the Communist Party of Israel.

Why are people less outraged about that than they are about the fact that Jackson Hinkle made transphobic comments?

People are more upset at ACP for transphobia than they are

At the CPUSA for signing a joint statement with the Tudor Party and Communist Party of Israel.

Who n who are denouncing the Iranian government?

How does that fucking if you're a revolutionary, which one is the worst crime?

How does it make sense that the crime

Is transphobia and not in I don't understand.

I mean, why is this crazy?

Why I don't know.

I'm crazy, I guess, right?

I'm just a f I'm j I guess I guess this just confirms, right?

They're c they're they're red fascists, they're nausebulls.

Meanwhile, the nuclear bomb.

Actual Russian Nazbuls are more revolutionary than the overall majority of quote-unquote communist parties in SolidNet.

CPSA, the KKE, they're they're not revolutionaries.

These are cafe quote-unquote communists.

They're not fucking Russian Nazbulls, say what you want about them.

They were fighting in Ukraine in the trenches.

And in the 2000s and 90s, they were throwing Molotovs at Zionist oligarchs.

Hey, you know what?

I don't know why I'm supposed to be more offended of being associated with them versus being associated with the quote unquote Communist Party of Israel and the Tudor Party and the CPUSA.

It's much more embarrassing to be associated with the CPUSA, with Trotskyites, with these Euro communist, sock dam, reformist pieces of trash, than it is to be associated with literal Russian Nazbulls.

It's much more embarrassing.

They're like, well, and it's like 10 degrees away from Hitler, right?

200,000 million degrees away from Hitler.

And we need a we need a guys, we need to root out the quote unquote Nasbulls and fearmonger about Nasbulls because if we don't, they're gonna do another Holocaust.

Meanwhile, they are already doing another Holocaust in Gaza and they're trying to do one in Iran, like right now, right?

Honestly, you know what?

Do I need to raise this topic?

Is this some kind of Zionist Jewish supremacy going on?

Are Palestinian lives just worth less than Jewish lives?

Is that what this is?

No, no, no, let's are we going to go down this path?

Should we start litigating this question?

Are the lives of Iranians and Palestinians worth less than that of Jews in the minds of the socialism for all these people that call us Nazis and fascists, do they consider it a matter of less urgency to oppose Zionism than some fake boogeyman of Nazbolism that's in their head?

Which one is actually more important from the perspective of genocides happening now?

Or have happened in recent memory.

What is this even about anymore?

Is this an ideology that's just based on Zionist Jewish supremacy?

Or is it about opposing the

Genocidal anti-human evil.

I mean, which what is it actually about anymore?

I'm lost.

Can you fill me in?

Did you know that ACP was uh supposed to do a pro-Palestine event?

I'm not going to say which chapter, but they were going to, you know, they contributed resources, whatever.

Helped organize it.

And some rich Jewish leftist kid shut it down.

He said, no, ACP are fascists.

Get rid of them.

The fuck?

It was a pro-Palestine event and one of these uh I think it was the Jewish peace people, I don't know.

Some rich Jewish peace guy.

Kicked us out and said you can uh they can only participate if they don't rep ACP.

And I what I'm curious about at this point is who is this for anymore?

Like who and what is this for?

It's not for Palestinians apparently.

Um it's supposed to placate the feelings of liberals.

And Zinus.

Who is calling us, who is attacking us?

What are they prioritizing, right?

We have a QFK, we have one request to speak.

Who's requesting to speak?

Dale Gribble

Uh he's a supporter, is he not?

Hello?

Yo, what's up?

Not much.

I wanted to give

I wasn't sure if I'd be able to make this comment, but I wanted to give a bit of

I wanted to give a bit of personal experience in this one.

I feel like 98% of the hatred of the ACP is mostly online.

I've went to events hosted by other organizations, and at most people were just kinda curious, if not kinda circling around.

The worst thing that happened was some guy from the CPUSA tri glared at us a little bit.

No, I mean I I see the same thing.

I've seen the same thing but I I feel like a lot of that is also like these are just snakes.

They're like talking shit online and then in person they're bowing their heads 'cause they know what they're doing is wrong.

Yeah, it could be.

I I re I think I saw something similar, especially here when we were doing something.

Someone made like some little sny comment and then just

That's it.

Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's it's a lot of it's online for sure.

But on some real shit, these people do conspire against us and try to block us internationally.

100%.

CPUSA has been trying to work overtime to slander us.

There's shit I can't even tell you.

They have been putting a lot of effort and a lot of work into undermining us.

I'll just tell you that much.

Wouldn't be surprised.

Help from what I've heard from a

Somebody in the chapter, they're basically just truck shoomers line to Beijing at this point.

And I'm guessing that to keep solid, they want to keep their place in solid net so they can keep doing that.

So they can what?

So they can keep being Chuck Schumer's lying to Beijing as kind of like a diplomatic envoy.

I didn't, yeah, that's.

I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna elaborate more on that, but it's crazy.

Yeah, it's crazy.

Anyways, thanks for having me on.

Uh all right.

So we've got some other stuff to cover.

And uh

Give me one second.

We have quite a few things to cover.

What the fuck is this?

Look at this crazy comment from Reddit.

Literally, a Reddit comment.

This is crazy.

I don't know.

I'm willing to speak to anyone who will listen at this point.

So tired of capitalism.

I'll work with just about anyone who's open to discuss the ideas of socialism, middle class, the homeless, bored rich housewives.

I just want socialism at this point.

I don't care how it's achieved, as long as it has nothing to do with some Nasbull ACP.

Yeah, we're we're honored to be the exception, buddy.

Trust me, we're honored to be your exception.

'Cause you're a fake bitch.

That's why.

That's all you're all about some revolutionary shit.

You're all about some radical shit until it's time to talk about ACP, you fake bitch.

Just your fucking hypocrisy, you fucking champagne socialist fake bitch.

Um, I don't I'm not here to cause more divisiveness on the issue, but uh

A lot of people were upset about what I said about Venezuela.

A lot of people were upset about what I said about Venezuela.

A lot of people were upset.

A lot of people were very upset about what I said about Venezuela.

So here's: I want to say one to three things about my comment when I said that Del C was a traitor.

Okay.

Um

First thing, okay, notice how it wasn't until I reached Moscow that I unequivocally said Dulcie was a traitor.

Before I went

Before I was in Moscow, I did not say anything.

I didn't know anything.

I didn't say anything.

Okay?

Um

I was very reluctant to make the comment that Del C sold out Maduro and that she's a traitor before I went to Moscow, right?

So maybe, maybe I don't speak talking out of my ass.

Maybe there's a lot of information that, you know, I know about that strongly leads me to believe that that is the case to the point where I'm willing to say that.

Um.

I kinda just want to share with you what it is.

I don't know if I can or cannot.

Um

But it was so fucking I'll have to ask

My comrades, if I could just share it, but it's pretty fucking damning to me, right?

And it's enough for me to say fuck her, she's a traitor, right?

And if you don't like that, I'm sorry, you know?

But uh I'm not talking out of my ass.

I'm not second of all, I don't like this argument that, oh, well, Delsy's just being pragmatic.

Just like Beijing does and and like oh, she's just uh she's just uh agreeing to a treaty under duress like Brest-Litvosk or like how China does.

And you just want Venezuela to sacrifice pragmatism and trade for the sake of some suicidal war.

Actually, I'm not saying that.

I think we're there's a big elephant in the room missing, right?

Which is that they kidnapped the president?

Why is Maduro no longer the sitting president of Venezuel?

Because they kidnapped him?

And I don't know why I am being gaslit and being made to feel like I'm some unreasonable ultra-leftist for pointing out that that is an act of war and that if you do not retaliate against such an act, you have surrendered your sovereignty.

All I'm saying is Venezuela is not a sovereign state.

That's all.

If you think that the best strategy going forward is to cease being a sovereign state altogether, then admit that the Bolivarian Revolution is no longer in charge of Venezuela.

Because it isn't.

Because Venezuela isn't sovereign by any definition of sovereignty.

It's just not.

If you say, well, you know, it's going to bring more prosperity and wealth for the Venezuelan people, you can make that argument.

I disagree with that in the long term.

In the long term, I disagree with that.

But if you think that, that's fine.

You don't have sovereignty.

Um I don't know why it's so unreasonable to say that.

It's like, no, this wasn't a deal made.

Well, Maduro was going to make the same deal.

Yeah, you're right.

Maduro, as the sitting president of Venezuela.

was going to make a deal under duress

to prevent

The United States from officially and directly destroying Venezuela's sovereignty.

But the US has already done that.

So it's not really a deal at this point, it's an occupation.

And I don't know why I'm crazy.

I'm being made to feel like I'm crazy for saying that.

It's not a deal, it's an occupation.

Well, China doesn't they didn't kidnap Xi Jinping.

Why is this crazy for me?

Why are we gaslighting ourselves and pretending everything's it's just like a change in circumstance?

Don't worry.

No, buddy, they they kidnapped the fucking president.

That's an act of war.

They changed who leads Venezuela.

How is the US allowed to change who leads if your country if you're the leader of your country can change?

Because the US forced you to like, that's not sovereignty, I'm sorry.

And uh

Anyone who's talking about pragmatism and saying, I'm who are you to talk has nobody, I'm nobody.

I am impersonally making the observation that Venezuela is not a sovereign country anymore.

Haas, who are you to say that you're sitting in Michigan?

Correct.

I'm sitting in Michigan as a citizen of the country that occupies and colonizes Venezuela.

And I'm allowed to be honest about what reality is, okay?

I'm just allowed to be honest about what reality is.

I'm not going to delude myself.

I'm not going to huff copium about this.

And the third thing I want to say.

Is this?

I am so, and I am an honorable person, and I will say this.

I am so confident that Dulcie is a sellout and a traitor.

That six months from now

Either I will have been so thoroughly and comprehensively been discredited and disproven about that fact, I will, if in that if in those circumstances six months from now that I'm disproven in some way, I will publicly apologize.

I have no problem swallowing my pride and honorably apologizing for having been wrong.

But I'm so confident in this fact that I think six months from now, the most ardent defenders of Del C right now who are coping.

will admit that I was right, or will will at least now understand.

The reality behind the claim she's a traitor.

So give it six to eight months, and I just think everything is going to be clarified.

Why?

Because the United States now is pushing for the idea that there's going to be a transition in Venezuela from

What they have now to quote-unquote democracy, where they're basically going to liquidate the Venezuelan state.

If that happens,

I will happily

Accept the apologies of the people attacking me for s calling her a traitor.

Yeah, they're telling her to extradite Alex Saab and hey, j just

Just let the humiliations pile on, and the supporters will keep saying it's pragmatism and that it's uh

You know, it's it's somehow, you know, uh all part of the plan.

But there's gonna be a breaking point, I think, six to eight months from now, where everyone's gonna either have to acknowledge that I was wrong or they were wrong.

If I'm wrong, I will happily be the first one to publicly apologize for it.

Um and I'm just confident that time itself will tell.

That's all I could really say.

I'm confident time will tell and reveal everything.

So we'll I just my answer is just I don't want to argue and debate with you if you're so angry about it.

Just wait.

There's some people who sympathize with infrared.

And with us, who got super mad that I said this and they crashed out.

I'm like, look, okay, look, if you feel so strongly about this.

My answer is just wait.

Time will tell.

Soda, go ahead.

Hey, thanks for letting me grab the mic here.

You had a well actually I got it.

I have two questions if that's okay.

One related to what you just said.

Are you I came in halfway so I didn't get the full take, but are you pro or anti Delcie in Venezuela?

And sorry, that's like the wrong way to frame it, but curious about that.

I think either Del C or someone currently in power in the administration sold out Maduro and made a deal with the United States to sell out Maduro and capitulate.

And I think this was preferable to the United States over a war and an occupation.

I think that the U.S.

basically said, we're going to demoralize the PSUV base by exploiting traders within the leadership.

And by the way, I know there are corrupt traders high up.

That's a fact that they exist in PSUV, as they do in all nations.

And the US uh you know, instead of fighting against them and doing regime change, they're like, We're going to keep the quote unquote regime intact, we're just going to appoint the traders in charge who through policies are slowly but surely going to conform Venezuela to US interests.

Got it.

Got it.

A quick follow-up there.

I read an article that kind of was more sympathetic from a Marxist point of view.

I think I saw that one.

It was a PC.

Yep.

Yep.

Marcelo.

I think Marcelo was his name or something like that.

I don't remember his name, but I think I know what you're talking about.

Yeah.

What's your take on that?

I think it's just a bunch of copium.

Hold on, one sec.

Dark Energy, what's up?

I think that they're making analogies and comparisons that are not addressing the elephant in the room, which is that Venezuela is no longer a sovereign state.

The notion that a state has to make retreats, tactical retreats, has to make concessions.

You don't need to tell me this.

I know this, okay?

I know about the debates about Brezlitvosk after the October Revolution.

I'm aware about the tactical retreats throughout the history of the revolutionary movements of the world.

I'm aware.

I'm not an idiot.

They're trying to make comparisons to China, to Brest-Litvosk, to all sorts of

Examples of tactical retreats in the history of the revolutionary movements

But this is not a tactical retreat because tactical retreats can only be effected by sovereign actors.

When your sitting president is kidnapped by a foreign power, your land is invaded, and an act of war has been effected against you, and you don't retaliate, you have submitted to a foreign occupation.

And at this point, you are a collaborationist regime.

You're a collaborationist administration who has been given administrative privileges.

Yes, she has administrative privileges to some extent.

She is allowed to rule in some capacity in an administrative sense.

But does Delsi and the PSUV, do they have sovereign power in the last instance?

No, they don't.

Uh they are

Del C is acting at the behest of the US as an occupying power.

That's not a tactical retreat.

It is a surrender of sovereignty.

When Deng Xiaoping gets kidnapped and is sitting in a New York jail, or when Xi Jinping is, God forbid, and China does nothing and continues.

No worries.

Yeah, I don't want to have a debate with these people about whether or not what Venezuela should or shouldn't have done.

I don't want to have that debate.

I do recall Nicolas Maduro talking about how they're going to turn it into another Vietnam and how they're going to actually have a tactical retreat into the jungles of Venezuela and wage a protracted guerrilla war, which I have no reason to believe is impossible.

But yeah, it would come at the cost of a tremendous loss of life and destruction, as all wars in history do.

The invasion of the USSR, 30 million people died.

How many people died in Vietnam?

How many people died in Lebanon after Israel's invasion?

Yeah, wars are bloody.

Is there a time and place for war?

That's the question.

I think these people are basically saying, no, there's never a time and place for war.

It's always best to just do what minimizes loss of life for humanitarian reasons and maximizes economic gain.

And this is materialism and this is pragmatism.

And uh you can have that position, just don't call it Marxism.

That's all I'll say.

Just don't call it Leninism.

I don't want to have a debate about what Venezuela should or should not have done.

I want to be clear about the fact that Venezuela is under occupation and has no sovereignty.

That's it.

In which case, yes, Del C is like the Vichy regime in France.

And I don't care if you think that's justifiable or if there's an excuse for it.

Let's be honest about what the facts are.

That's where I want to start with.

I don't want to have a debate about w what the best course of action should have been.

I want to be honest and clear about the fact that Venezuela has been conquered by the United States regime.

Objectively, it has.

I'm sick of this humiliation.

I'm not even Venezuela and I feel humiliated by it.

But I'm sick of these people coping

Who are spinning this abject humiliation as some kind of strategic patience?

That's it.

That's uh it's it's it's it's tough to argue.

And uh, you know, I really appreciate your really appreciate your candor here on this subject.

Uh, my second and last question, you wrote a tweet the other day that I am just like I've been chewing on for a good minute now.

This was very recent.

It was on, you know, kind of the reaction, your reaction to why China and Russia and Iran aren't doing more in turn in terms of like a formal like strategic alliance.

And your your concern is that like, you know, each one is getting picked off and it's not worth like existing, it's not worth them interacting as individual states, but rather as a block.

So I was wondering if you could just like unpack that a little bit more.

And I guess what I'm saying is let's say with respect to China, should they enter in like the formal like de facto military alliances with like Russia and Iran, you know, counter to what's been successful for them so far?

I think absolutely yes.

And I'll make an argument for why.

So first of all, regarding why this hasn't happened, I want to reiterate a more recent tweet I made, which is that a lot of people presume that the quote-unquote deep states within China and Russia and Iran have some kind of unified geopolitical, global strategic perspective about the United States.

To whatever extent that exists, I don't know.

I haven't seen a ton of proof of that existing.

I hope it does.

But what I do know is that these countries are massive bureaucracies.

Their governments have massive bureaucracies.

They have international relations bureaucracies, foreign relations bureaucracies.

Foreign affairs departments and so on and so on.

And they are operating under a functional paradigm of international relations and international law that absolutely does

Uh take seriously

As naive as that sounds, the post-war international order and international law in the UN.

Now,

There are powers in these nations I mentioned which are absolutely like not beholden to that.

Putin is not, the CPC leadership is not, and the Supreme Leader of Iran is not.

But the foreign relations paradigm of these countries is very much on the surface, I think.

Not because they're like, you know, so goody two-shoes, but because.

People don't understand that to organize a massive government in a massive state, you have to have some kind of formalism and bureaucracy and redundancy.

So th there is no current official institutionalization of, for example, Eurasianism.

Or even the multipolar theory or things like that in any of these countries.

They see themselves, formally speaking, as independent actors living in a kind of post war Westphalian order of international law and the right self-determination of nations.

And formally speaking, they treat

The actions of the United States.

As mere misbehavior on the international stage, with exceptions.

To the regions that are directly in geographic proximity to the actors themselves.

So Iran is not naive about the United States when it comes to the Middle East.

Russia is not naive about the United States when it comes to its kind of uh theater of war or or or strategic uh you know um strategically significant area which is uh mostly europe

Uh to its um to its west.

And Iran is uh sorry, and China is absolutely not naive about the United States in the Indo-Pacific and in Taiwan.

But when it comes to US actions outside of their kind of the the the area that they care about, they're operating under an international law paradigm.

And I think that the reason this is irrational is because

Even in the interest of defending their own turf, so China in the Indo-Pacific, the Taiwan province, China in in Ukraine and Europe, and Iran in uh the Fertile Crescent region.

You could expand that in many directions, but roughly that's what it is.

The trajectory, the current course of the international system is confrontation objectively, meaning the United States is not going to tolerate the status quo between China and Taiwan province indefinitely.

It's not sustainable indefinitely.

Sooner or later, the United States is going to want to cut Taiwan off from the mainland.

The United States has proven that it is willing to make tactical retreats when it comes to overtly funding separatism in Tibet and in Xinjiang and in Taiwan and so on.

But these are tactical retreats.

Strategically it's in the interest of the U United States uh

Unipole to split China up in some kind of way and to ensure the status quo within the Indo-Pacific specifically.

The the same thing is true in the Russia-Ukraine war.

The trajectory is confrontation.

Why?

Because Russia is unhappy already about the status quo, specifically with respect to the Baltic countries, the entrance of Finland into NATO, which is a recent development.

Obviously, the Ukraine war negotiations aren't really going anywhere.

And reaching a settlement in Ukraine, I think, is not going to happen.

There's an irreconcilable contrast of interests going on.

But even if it was, I think Russia is unhappy with the status quo in Europe and with NATO on its borders.

And I I don't think it's gonna end uh without some kind of confrontation.

And obviously we're already seeing the confrontation happening now in the case of Iran in the Middle East.

So although China has been avoiding conflict up to this point, I think that China uh i is not naive about the fact.

It must know for certain that

it doesn't accept right now the status quo indefinitely.

Eventually it's going to want to operationally and strategically and physically bring the Taiwan province into the fold, which the US would find unacceptable.

So I think it would be beneficial for a new framework of international relations and a new strategic orientation.

That is an explicit defensive military alliance.

And I think that a defensive military alliance would not be the most difficult thing in the world to affect for China, Russia, Iran and other states that feel unjustly aggressed by the Unipol and the US status quo.

I think that a purely defensive alliance that says we're going to uphold some kind of yes, framework of international law, international relations.

Where we respect the right of sovereignty and self-determination, and we're willing to defend and enforce that against a clear and present danger, which is US imperialism.

and its aggression.

Um I think that would have a deterrence factor.

I think that would put

On the one hand, you say, Well, this is just China and Russia extending their nuclear shield over a bunch of shitty small countries that don't deserve it.

And then I would say on the other hand, well, it is in the interest of Russia and China to build out as much as it can an international community aligned with it.

Uh because as as powerful and big as these countries are,

If they ever find themselves in a position of being isolated rogue states, which is politically possible.

China i has economically insulated itself from the possibility of being isolated from the world, but economics and politics are not directly the same thing.

I have no doubt that um the United States probably wouldn't want to destroy the status quo economically in the case of China, as much as it wants to change the political status quo and hijack the economic

system where China's at the center and use that for its own purposes.

Whether it wants to dismantle it, whether it wants to do something else with it, it doesn't matter.

Political control is primary, right?

So, um

I think it's in the interest of China and Russia to start being more proactive about the international system that they're living in.

And being more involved in actually upholding some kind of global security architecture.

Um

I think that the best off the best defense is an offense, put it shortly.

Why wait for the United States to get what it wants and strategically outmaneuver you?

And then one day you're going to be the Iran, right?

So that's that's really interesting you say that because it's you know, from my perspective, it's almost like is it is it necessary to go that far to enter into like a formal alliance for the countries in question here to enter into a formal alliance when you see the U.S.

flailing on the world stage, right?

Um, it's exhausting itself in the Middle East.

It's already exhausted itself.

No, I agree, but I feel like a defensive alliance basically just says if you continue effecting this catastrophic, destabilizing destruction on the world, uh, we will retaliate.

So, at this point, there's a deterrence factor.

I don't think the U.S.

would be able to respond.

I don't think the U.S.

is gonna nuke the world or, you know.

I don't think it'll take that risk.

Right, right.

Okay.

Okay.

So then how is it, like, how is that any different?

Like, what you're proposing?

How's that materially different from like China and Russia's no limits partnership that they've agreed to in like the past two years?

Because these things are promising developments, but it's not a comprehensive strategic reorientation that involves a change in their understanding of the international system, which means they're kind of doing their own thing and just pretending like you know the maniac in the room is irrelevant.

And that's not true, you know?

So I think what or you're hold on, your mic is your mic's cutting, cutting out or once you can hear me.

I need a second to respond.

I have to fix that and then respond and then I'll respond.

Can you hear me right now?

Yeah, I can hear you just fine.

No, I was just saying, I I think that uh it's not a comprehensive change of of their overall international relations strategy.

You know, I agree with you in that respect.

And so I think the most interesting or compelling part of your argument is, you know, the conception of how they exist or how they conduct international relations in the liberal in the con in the liberal conception of them, right?

As like, you know, individual units that don't really have any that at least on the surface don't have any like and honestly, like what I'm advocating for isn't a, you know.

A merger of sovereignty.

I'm just advocating for a strategic realism about what is the actual architecture and shape of international relations versus what it's supposed to be formally.

Formally, it's supposed to be this Westphalian order, or even worse, the BRICS advocates are claiming, oh, it's supposed to be a multipolar world order, right?

Well, you can wish and want it to be whatever you want.

There's only one country on earth that has the unilateral ability to bomb anyone and attack any nation on earth with impunity, right?

Yep.

And there should be a reflection and honesty about the actual shape of international relations institutionally.

I, you know, I agree with that because, you know, I think the part that you, and I, and the basis of my agreement is related to when you when you were talking about economics versus politics, right?

And I feel that given the high degree of interconnectedness of global trade, you kind of need an update to, you know, the international relations that surrounds it, that's, you know, that is its supporting structure and foundation, right?

And so, you know, in some ways, yeah, I think you're totally right that it's outdated.

I guess my question here on this particular point is, is either China, Russia, or Iran and any other individual countries like ready to step up and bear that responsibility, right?

I actually think that I put a lot of weight in the reality of soft power.

I think where they're all lacking is in the realm of consciousness.

I think that the U.S.

has them outpaced there.

And I think that they need to develop some kind of new outlook popular among the newer generations, which can then feed up and have an effect of.

you know, soft power influence at the highest level of the institutions, where they're they they have an under I feel like we're still living in a globalist, American globalist kind of cosmopolitan soft power world, right?

Absolutely, absolutely.

Yeah, and I think that there needs to be a change in that first.

One that maintains the dynamism and neutrality of globalism and globalization, but simultaneously acknowledges, um,

Which this is what the multipolar theory was supposed to be, but

It really never became that.

Well, I mean, the advantage of globalism is this kind of pretense to there's a neutrality.

It's not a specific ideology.

It's just an acknowledgement of our global interconnectedness and the unlimited interactivity and connections between humanity and so on.

That needs to evolve into something more concrete, whether it's Eurasianism, whether it's a new narrative that comprehends.

These interconnected shared heritages that China, Russia, and Iran have, or, frankly, you know, something that that goes more in the direction of what the Soviets had, right?

Which is a theory of imperialism and the need to fight imperialism.

Whatever it so happens to be, it has to preserve the dynamism and

um how should I put it?

This kind of pre-ideological neutrality of globalism, but also give it a specific shape that

That is realistic.

I think the term that you're looking for is like off-bung, right?

You know, both, yeah, both to a power.

Yeah, there needs to be a sublation of globalism.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, I hear you.

And, you know, honestly, it's like, if you look, if you, I don't know if you listen to Marco Rubio's speech at Davos, but he made a very, he made the argument that you're talking about, but, you know, for like the West, you know, the U.S.

and Europe, right?

And basically what you're arguing for is like, you need that, you know, like on the soft power level, but then like coordination on the hard power level.

Absolutely.

Soft power, these nations don't have a common narrative.

One is kind of taking shape, and the ones that have been trying to take shape are, it's kind of like this bricks slop and it's failed, right?

But that's that's that's a Goldman Sachs term.

Like the kids, right, right, right.

Yeah, I know, I know.

So I feel like the area of most importance, and I might be biased because I'm a fucking live streamer, but to me, I would say the area of most importance right now is in the soft power realm.

I have to give you kudos on that because it's like a very Wang Hooning approach to like global relations and I would say like Marxism, you know it's a very what would you say?

Wang Hooning.

Oh Wang.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He's like, he privileges the software, right, more than the hardware.

And I feel like you're doing the same thing.

So I think it's a very astute observation of you.

Well, yeah, I mean, we'll probably have to wrap it up there, but it's a good talk.

Hey, appreciate you.

Thank you.

And then the last person is going to be Louis.

Lewis, go ahead.

It was just on the...

You can hear me, yeah?

Yeah.

Okay.

It was just on this the whole position on the globalism and um

Uh, multipolar system, I I don't think that any of that's gonna work in the long run.

I think it's all gonna just collapse in on itself.

Uh well, what does a collapse look like?

Oh, well, it's it's not it's not some sort of Mad Max kind of thing that some people like to think about, or like um something off a black zombie film.

The reality is like it's not that the reality behind globalism is the um

The kind of infinite interconnectivity of the world and of the globe.

That's a reality when it comes to information and the transport and flow of goods physically.

And I think that even in a situation of global institutional collapse,

The ability for the technology, even if it's like if it has to be recreated in some way.

For this interconnectedness to exist at the information level?

And therefore, the you know, look, I don't want to speculate too much when you think about it.

The flow of information and the flow of goods start to converge with the rise of things like 3D printing and shit, right?

So, if you if you play a video game called Death Stranding, you're looking at a world that's totally collapsed after an apocalypse, but which has simultaneously maintained this kind of like decentralized nodal.

system of connectivity, where people are three D printing weapons and objects and things and and yes, I mean, you still need to transport resources and goods from one area to the next physically.

Yes, there's conflict, yes, there's violence.

But the kind of thing we associate with globalism, which is just interconnectivity and

This kind of transcendence of space is there.

And if you would take that a little bit less science fiction speculation, I think that even in circumstances of global collapse, we're going to have something similar.

Well, I don't mean global collapse in that kind of sense.

What I'm actually referring to is this is more of a genuine major issue in places like Europe, definitely here in Britain, is due to certain policies that the government has engaged in based around certain positions with globalism, which, to be fair, most of it, when you read into it, is actually essentially just money laundering or some form of fraud or it's basically just people lying in their own pocket.

All the green energy stuff.

Basically, the country is on the verge of having consistent blackouts.

The energy grid is basically just shagged.

There is no, and there's no means of expanding political grid, et cetera, et cetera.

To add to that, I think that we're looking at an arms race right now in Ukraine of weaponizing the disabling and shutting down of energy grids because of the rise of drone warfare and stuff.

So I think that the instability of energy grids and the most visceral foundation of modern civilization is going to be tested.

But I would say the sword cuts both ways.

I think that.

What you're seeing in Europe

Which is the unreliability of like more centralized, outdated infrastructure of energy grids and whatever.

I think that's simultaneously probably going to correspond to kind of

Civilization and culture giving rise to more decentralized and local solutions for the generation of energy and electricity.

Well, it's funny that, though, essentially, the energy issue in Europe is dire to the extent that it's not going to be like, it's not going to go, oh, we're going to start using steam again.

Like, we've not got dark hole or we can dig coal out of the ground, but even that's here's here's my crazy speculation: is that as energy infrastructure continues to fail, which is already outdated, more avant-garde experimental technologies which try to decentralize these grids to the point where, like, you know, you have your own generator, you have these seem far-fetched and shit, but it's like it's actually a thing, you know.

How do you create your own energy grid from scratch, right?

That type of thing.

And I think the best the best means that I've understood this is, um, especially across Europe, is we'd have to return to using water wheels, but w we wouldn't be using any electricity.

Like that that's the severity.

I think that well, look, that's it.

Fossil fuels can still be a source of energy if you have a independent generator and stuff.

No, but um what my my my emphasis says is that the entire continent is just so heavily depleted.

The investment that's needed to get access to certain oil reserves isn't there.

And then but there's there's compounding issues.

I agree.

There's there's gonna be creative solutions that are needed, solar panels, whatever you wanna call it.

But uh well th the the solar panel thing doesn't work either because it uses oil.

You need fossil fuels to get all of the materials for those like panels and the wind farms.

I think that Europe Europe's ability to tap into energy or o fossil fuels and sources of energy within Europe is gonna maybe become harder, but uh

The rest of the world probably isn't gonna well I wouldn't even I wouldn't even rule out the rest of the world either because 2006 was the peak oil just conventional oil production obviously obviously the production has consistently been going up year after year after year, but it was like the peak amount of production output with providing like a large surplus basically and then essentially that started that peaked up and then started declining and then you had the 2008 financial crisis you had zero interest rates to try and obviously alleviate the problem.

I don't know how it would be.

I don't know how it would be, but looking at the long-term trends of history and based on what would make sense to me, I think that people are going to start getting creative at that point and find ways to decentralize the flow of energy, so to speak.

And that is itself going to be an apocalyptic moment, by the way, because it's going to...

Oh, no, I agree with the position that it would become decentralized, but it means that the conception of world order is not going to be a problem.

It's going to fundamentally change.

Absolutely.

Basically.

I wouldn't even say change.

I just mean it's gone because you can't maintain a national state without having a centralized energy grid.

And Europe, again, even in America, you can't have an energy grid.

Well, look, look, Lewis, Lewis, to be fair.

To be fair, you're absolutely right.

But it's a very intelligent observation you're making, by the way.

I like this idea that thus far nations are basically based on centralized energy grids.

It's a good way of thinking.

But to be fair, I would say that historically the foundations of what

Make a state substantively have never been the same.

So it never always was a central energy grid.

There's all sorts of different examples of how the infrastructure common to states comes to be and becomes decisive.

There's a tendency throughout history of this kind of process or dialectic, if you will, of decentralization and centralization.

One of the things that made Europe unique in the rise of European feudalism was that Europe didn't rely on the centralization of irrigation systems, but it did absorb and take from Asiatic societies the hydraulic technologies to use and make use of water energetically.

And it was able to kind of decentralize that with the windmill and so on technology, water works and so on.

But uh I think there's always room for

Maybe we have to rediscover it or maybe it's something I just haven't had time to think about right now at this moment, but uh

I think that we will always have this kind of uh national or central framework.

of a common order through infrastructure materially, but it will just it'll be something different.

It'll change.

Something that probably strikes us as obvious now, but or sorry, strike will strike us as obvious in the future, but now maybe it's hard to think about what it is.

I, you know what?

I've been thinking about the same shit you've been thinking about because I was just in Russia and I was.

Thinking about the war in Ukraine and the drone warfare, and I'm like, you know, the next step is going to be that.

Energy grids are going to be decentralized.

There's going to be these new ways to disable them or turn them on, and vice versa, which is going to make them far more dynamic and mobile and impervious from attacks.

Or like it's going to make the drone warfare more impervious from just like one-shot destruction disabling the energy grid.

And this is going to have like profound consequences.

And if what you're saying is already happening in Europe, then it just kind of adds to this.

Well, I mean, it's mainly an issue of so what this is the reason why I mentioned the oil crisis that happened in 06 and then caused the it was one of the things that caused the financial crisis in 08 because after that you then had the under you had a couple of other financial crises but what was interesting is that shale oil became very um profitable after 2008 but that's because of the interest rates being basically zero and you could basically just dump a shitload of money in yep into it right so shale oil became really big right but shale oil peaked in like 20 what 2016 i think right so really quick it's already peaked out so that was shale oil and now we're doing lng and lng is pretty much already tapped i don't know how much you i'll have one last question or or comment and then we got to go but uh because i'm running late already but uh what do you think about the fusion energy technology that china's trying to develop do you think that's a fusion is a

Fusion is a difficult one because it's not the same as obviously it's not the same as fission.

You're not smashing two atoms together and then basically making uh compressing the uh

the atoms down using various amounts of d different techniques to uh create the energy and then you harness it via s via via boiling water to make steam turn a turbine.

Essentially fusion is trying to it not do that.

It's like an artificial sun, you know.

Yeah, yeah, basically, but it's using extremely um the precision needs to be bang on.

It probably could work, the the the issue is trying to keep it stable enough to maintain the flow of the bottom.

Yeah, yeah, that's why they haven't the idea is they haven't reached it.

The idea is to start well, is to start it and then it uses the majority of the energy to maintain its stability, and then you own, and then you just harness off like maybe 20% if you're lucky, um, of the excess surplus.

But then the funny thing is, is that you're basically just using that to again boil fucking water for turbines to turn turn big wheels, yeah, yeah, basic.

That's that we haven't we haven't, that's so true.

I was thinking about that a lot as well.

We have, we've never gone past the big wheels, we just haven't big wheels and yeah, water and steam, yeah, right.

Um, it's kind of funny actually that you mentioned that because there's a guy in uh in Britain that's been trying to come up with um energy oh god, I mean I suppose you could call it decentralized.

Um, he goes he's on Twitter, he goes by the name Alex Masters.

Um, he's a right-winger, but I don't well, I am as well, but that's not I'm not all that bothered about the political left-right divide, I'm not interested in that anymore.

Um

He works as a he works part of a steam uh engine group, he's very big in Britain, steam engines and stuff like that, but apparently the steam engines now are actually nearly, if not more efficient than diesel locomotives, based on a number of tests and experiments that have been happening, but yeah, yeah, yeah.

So they're actually more um and it's very interesting now because you can start to use biofuel as well um instead of using like uh coal um and you can even use um bio oil so you can convert it into uh you can basically use a chemistry system to convert it into oils to s pour into the um effectively the furnace to then create the steam to move the engine.

So that's very interesting, you know.

Um okay, so yeah, he goes by the name Alex on uh on Twitter.

Yeah, interest interesting thoughts, honestly.

Interesting thoughts.

All right, man.

See you later.

Thank you.

Bye-bye.

Alright guys, I gotta wrap up the space.

We're kind of uh space is gonna be it's not deleted, it's not being recorded on X.

It's gonna be deleted from my timeline, the post.

You can find it on kick.com/slash infrared.

All right.

Um yeah guys, this is why I like I told you I like British people and that's why, 'cause they're just whether it's like this or it's Paul Cockshot or whatever, it's just like British people are just a lot of the time they're just thinking in the right way, to be honest.

They just think about things in such an interesting way.

All right, guys.

I'm going to be off.

Bye-bye.

See you guys.

See you guys Sunday.

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