IRAN WAR | MASSIVE DEBATES!
2026-03-06T21:07:27+00:00
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Comrade Kate.
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What up, y'all?
I noticed something, uh,
I don't actually look the best in these hats.
You know,
I look better without the hats.
But I still look quite good, but
What up, y'all?
Red Bull, what's up? I was just in the rain i was walking i got into the rain got caught in some rain i'm looking straight up taliban i'm looking like afghan right now
what's up red bull what's up what's up we got a lot to talk about grant k what's up? We got a lot to talk about. Grant, C.K.
What's up, man?
Appreciate you.
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I said looking all fucked up.
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I need a haircut for sure.
What's up, y'all?
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We're on some real
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to confront the chairman tonight. I have a lot to talk about i like
ones that we're good i've got a lot to talk about i like to uh get into a lot of topics.
A lot of my thoughts, actually.
And actually, I'm going to start the space right now, actually, because it's always a good time to start.
I don't actually encourage you to join the space yourself.
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Are you going to be actually on some effective co-host shit?
All right, I'll give him co-host, but he, bro, this is your one chance to not fuck up, all right, on some real shit.
Cannot be on no jester maxing type of shit, all right?
So anyway, guys, the thing I wanted to talk about is that I saw something really interesting.
The debate between us and these leftists that we're always finding ourselves at odds with or confronting and so on and so on.
I don't know why I look like Sultan Abdul Hamid.
You know, I don't know what it is.
Maybe just make it make it even more or less.
I don't know.
All right, anyway.
The thing is, the thing is, guys,
I remember on Instagram
there was this stupid
woman who was saying this
stuff, ACPR Nasbles, ACPR
fascists, yada,
yada, yada, yada, yada, right?
And they were a CP USA member.
They were a member of the CPUSA
saying that shit. And I'm just like, do I even need to say
anything? These CPUSA members that are always trying to cancel us. I don't understand it because
where, so first of all, can we just start calling them what they are zinus is this what is this
the goy c p goy essay what is this because it's like they're doing a joint statement with the
communist party of Israel
and the
anti-Iran Tudah party
to denounce the Iranian
government in the middle of
an existential war for their survival
of Iran itself, while it
heroically fends off the most powerful empire in the
history of mankind. That's not even an exaggeration. The U.S. is the most technologically
powerful and wealthy empire in the history of the world. Iran is heroically fending off that empire by
itself. Meanwhile, the so-called Communist Party that claims to be the Communist Party of that country,
which it's not, by the way, alongside the Communist Party of Israel to just make it even better, are issuing a statement
denouncing the Iranian government. How incredible. Zerwini, what's up, bro? Appreciate you.
So I just, I don't know. I just, I don't know whether to laugh or how I should even feel about this, what my feelings should be. I don't know. But why are these people who are the supporters of these organizations? You guys, you want to know how you deal with these leftists? Crush their pan left unity. Anytime leftists are trying to attack us,
point at the fucking finger at them and say, hey, is this what you fucking support? For example,
Red And Drau. Every fucking time he opens his mouth, these are his fucking people. Every time Red
Androw opens his mouth, ask him if he supports this.
Just screenshot this and fucking confront him with this.
Because we need to draw the fucking lines.
I'm sick of these fucking leftists who are transgender
indigenous, indigent, transgender fat, abelistic leftists who are transgender indigenous
transgender fat
abliistic
whatever the fuck they are
who claim to be
tankies claim to be like
pro North Korea
but have one issue with us which is that
we're not pro transgendertransgender enough, bandwagon with literal Zionists, with the CPUSA, with literal Democrats, with literal Hitler rights, with literal social Democrat pieces of shit, get on some pan left bandwagon with Zoron supporters and everything and all feel united and
powerful while they attack us.
We need to fucking draw the lines.
Hey, motherfuckers, do you support this, though?
Oh yeah, we get it.
You're against ACP for X, Y, and Z reason.
Do you support this, though?
Draw the fucking lines. Make them own up
to it. Crush their pan-leftist
unity. Seriously, where's the confrontation?
Where's the accountability for the
fact that these people are fucking Zionists and
get away with it.
Oh, we made Trump memes four years ago or something, right?
That's unforgivable.
But this is forgivable?
This is the left?
What a fucking joke.
And you know, to continue badgering on to this point, I just feel like the word communism is losing aura because of these people.
It's just become this extremely cringy, social democratic shit.
They're just sitting in cafes with glasses on, debating about whether Iran is worthy
of their moral support.
Meanwhile, Iran is at the vanguard, the revolutionary vanguard, of literally blowing up the fucking world,
motherfucker.
Like, they're actually confronting the, they're about that shit.
It is him.
They're about that shit.
Iran is fucking hammering the Zionists in the U.S. empire. Oh, that's like actually some real shit. They're blowing up Dubai, bro. How do you get more
revolutionary than that?
Like, while they're gibbering and sitting here about whether Iran is worthy of their precious support,
Iran is leading the charge of world revolution at the vanguard. How shameful and disgusting is that?
There has never been a worst time to be a quote unquote leftist. I'm just going to be on some real shit. The burden is not on us.
The burden is not on Iran to prove it's worthy of the support of leftists.
The burden is on the historical
tradition of the left wing
to prove it is worthy
of the revolutionary
actuality of the Islamic Republic
at this point. The burden is
on us to prove we're fucking worthy of iran's aura the burden is on us
to prove that the tradition we claim to be part of was historically just as revolutionary as
iran is right now because ir Iran is at the avant-garde this is what we used to have.
We used to be like this. We used to be at the avant-garde. We used to be the ones confronting the
empire. We used to be the revolutionaries, right? We're not anymore. Or the people that claim to have our
labels aren't anymore. We need to soberly own up to that fact. Like, the followers of Imam Khomeini
and the Islamic Republic actually are confronting the u s empire
those that claim to follow lenin's tradition those that claim to follow the red
flags tradition those that claim to follow the communist tradition
are sitting in parisian cafes with scarves on, with glasses on, talking about liberation.
What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? The aura is gone. And we are trying
desperately to bring it back. Do you know how fucking hard it is? We're trying so hard.
And as we're trying desperately to restore glory and honor and revolutionary, genuine,
revolutionary vigor and vitality to this tradition, the communist tradition, for that crime, these pussies sit in their cafes and call us fascists.
At this point, why am I apologizing for reing Dugan sometimes? Why am I apologizing for anything at this point? We desperately need a revolutionary flame and a revolutionary edge that we lost. I don't want to be in the same boat as these people.
Why am I apologizing for desperately trying to salvage our tradition?
To make it worthy of the actual revolutionary forces that exist in the world today.
I am sorry. You know what? I'll fucking say it.
Russian Nazbolls that fought in Donbass in 2015 are a million times more revolutionary
than whatever the fuck this is.
Let's just get back to common sense.
Hezbollah, Iran, all these problematic, cancelable fucking people that these people call fascists. They're the actual ones who are about some real
as shit. As far as the record is so far. Meanwhile, what has the Tudor party been doing? What is the CPUSA been doing?
Talking about how we need a fight. Even when they call us Nasbolls, even when they call us
Nosbles, it's like, look, the actual Nasbolls in Russia, who are part of Lamanov's formation, but those guys were actually in the trenches in Don Bass fighting with guns against Nazis, right?
And while the CPUSA was canvassing for Barack Obama, that's what they were doing.
Or canvassing for Barack Obama. That's what they were doing. Or canvassing for Hillary.
Literally.
The same period.
There was two things happening in the world.
The actual Russian Nazbles were fighting Nazis in the trenches of Ukraine while the CPUSA was canvassing for Hillary Clinton.
I'm not even kidding.
So like when they call us Nasbolls, are we supposed to be offended at this point?
I would be more offended if I was lumped in with the KKE dominant tendency within
Solidnet of these pussy Euro-communist piece of shit fucking pussy bitches. Nothing fucking piece of shit. Social Democrat. I'm trying not to use slurs. These fucking
social Democrat pissants devoid of vigor, devoid of any revolutionary edge whatsoever.
Complete fucking pussy sellout bitches.
I would be way more embarrassed to be associated with these fucking people.
Then I would be scared of being associated with the so-called boogeyman of the Nasbolls in Russia. Way more scared of being associated with the so-called boogeyman of the Nas-Bowls in Russia.
Way more scared of being associated than the Parisian
cafe communists
sitting around with their fucking scarves
and glasses. Oh, the liberation!
Oh, fuck your liberation, bitch.
I'm for slavery now.
I'm for collectivized
Asiatic slavery.
We all are slaves to Allah.
That's what I'm for.
Fuck your satanic luciferian liberation bitch. Shove it
up your ass. You
have to prove you're worthy of
Hezbollah at this point. They don't.
Hasbullah, Iran, all the
problematics, even
Dugan, all that shit. They don't have to prove anything
to you. You have to prove you're worthy of you. You have to prove you're worthy of that.
You have to prove you're worthy of the aura of a Wagner fighter in Donbass at this point.
They don't have, nobody has to prove they're worthy of you.
You have nothing.
You are a social Democrat piece of shit sellout.
You're not a revolutionary.
There's not a single, there's not a single part of Lenin's fire and Lenin's flame that has survived into whatever the fuck this is. Are you kidding? You think these people are Bolsheviks? Is this giving Bolsheviks to you? These are social Democrat pieces of shit liberals. You absolute traitor, scum, absolute fucking eunuchs. You dare fucking insult us trying to
throw these labels on us if it cancels us. What the fuck are you? No, they're not even Mensheviks. At least Mensheviks participated in the
1905 revolution. These people are not Mensheviks. These people, at this point, these are social
Hitler rights. these are fucking social
Democrats these are like such feckless spineless devoid of substance they have no
bones in their body they're fucking jellyfish.
What is this?
This is Nasdaily communism.
Welcome to Israel.
Like, what is this? And these people dare talk that shit on us. These people dare try to talk that shit on us. We desperately are trying to prove the communist tradition is worthy of the existing revolutionary forces in the world today.
At this point, like Western leftists are such gatekeepers, and the worst and most sickening part
is they think they're the moral arbiter of the universe. We decide what's moral.
You don't decide a fucking thing, you piss at.
Go vote for Kamala Harris, you fucking useless bitch.
You don't decide a fucking thing. Who the, no, I'm saying who the fuck are you? Why do they grandstand on this moral superiority? Where is your moral, where's the proof of your moral superiority? How has the cosmos shown its favorable disposition toward you? Are you actually moral? What about you is actually moral? You are not moral. You are immoral, you bitch. Once of my mic is okay.
So ban this fucking asshole, Michael Floyd.
Get rid of him for the rest of your life.
You're never allowed.
Three-month subscriber, I have no regrets banning your bitch ass.
You're done forever.
Go fucking make a new account bitch
I just don't understand why I'm
why do I like spend so much time
apologizing and trying to
you know what bitch like that
that fucking remember that fucking retard on YouTube?
Joseph's like, remember that?
I'm thinking, you know what Iran's got me thinking about?
It's like, remember that fucking guy on YouTube?
The ACP are mega-com, the mega-communists are La Rocheites and the mega-communists are...
Remember that fucking YouTube guy?
Remember that guy?
It's like, what are we defending ourselves against, though?
Like, oh... They are not part of the real left
who the fuck is the real left
who the fuck are you iran
is at the vanguard of this bitch i will
be begging to be part of the ayatollah's
uh aura
and his movement
and be associated with that.
I don't want to be associated with you, bitch-ass.
My man and Brandon Torres.
I don't want to be associated with you.
You have no aura.
You have no motion.
You have nothing.
Why the fucking would I be begging to be associated
with you fucking bum-fuck losers
who are nothing but piss ants?
Counter-revolutionary, social
Democrat, pieces of shit,
limp-risted fucking Democrat supporters.
Zonran Mamdani. Yeah, that's what you fucking are, Zorran Mamdani.
Yeah, that's what you fucking are,
Zohran Mamdani.
Or Socialism for All,
who's a Green Party supporter.
Literally shove it up your ass.
You're not about shit, bitch.
You're not a revolutionary.
A real one is a revolutionary first.
You understand? They're saying, I am desperately saving Marxism from these people.
But notice what I'm doing, I'm saving Marxism.
Meaning, if we don't get real, if we're not about our, you know, if we don't
save Marxism in the way that we're doing, it's going to be in the dustbin of history forever.
And Lenin's legacy and his lineage
will just be forgotten and lost forever.
I visited
Lenin physically. Okay? I
have such a close spiritual
proximity to that history, to that
legacy. I know for a fact, it's
not this. I know for a fact it's not this. I know for a fact it's not this. I know for a fact the Bolshevik history was more, right? But it's being forgotten. And these people are destroying it. They're turning it into something really gay for lack of a better word.
They're turning it into something
just fake. They're turning into something like
fake and domesticated
and like Barney the dinosaur. I don't know what the
fuck to call it. It's not, this is not the Bolshevik way. At this point, Russian Oswalds are more
revolutionary than than whatever
the fuck
these Euro-communist
pieces of shit
trash are.
You know,
they always call
us Nasbol's,
but now it just
kind of dawned on me
in an age
where Iran is at the revolutionary
vanguard of the world today.
Should we be crying?
I mean, we're not Nazbles.
We're not.
I hate Nossbole memes.
They're really ugly.
But the Russian Nossboles who fought in Donbass and who spent the entire like 1990s and early 2000s like throwing Molotov cocktails at oligarchs.
I don't know. I kind of feel like they're a little bit less fascist than the Communist Party of Israel.
I think, yeah, yeah.
I think the Russian Nazbolls who were throwing Molotovs at like Zionist oligarchs probably are a little less
fascist in actuality than the Communist Party of Israel. Oh, I understand. The Communist Party of Israel,
oh, no, no, I understand, though. I understand the Communist Party of Israel. They're so nice.
They're part of your subculture.
They're nice, and they have the cafe.
And there's probably some guy who has an acoustic guitar, who's in an Israeli cafe in Haifa or whatever.
In Tel Aviv, who's like,
Shalom Shalik, we love
minorities of the LGBT.
Hello, Shalom.
And he's such a nice guy, and they're all just
nice people, and they have septum piercings,
maybe, and they're so nice, and they're like just nice people, and they have septum piercings maybe, and they're so nice.
And they're like, liberation.
No more slut shaming.
Like all that wholesome shit, right?
And then the Russian Nossbols are throwing Molotovs at people.
I get it. I get it. But I think the fascists are actually the acoustic guitar guy. I think that's actually the real fascist, actually. Because I don't think fascism is about some aesthetic. I don't think it's actually about your cultural disposition and your temperament,
unlike what Theodore Adorno and other Zionist and Horkheimer are trying to push that it's a personality.
I don't think fascism is a personality.
I think fascism is a, uh, is the dictatorship of, uh, you know,
monopoly finance capital. It's about exterminating other nations and destroying,
liquidating their productive forces, liquidating them on the basis of your own sense of, you know, national superiority or whatever.
I think it's a type of militarist aggression on behalf of international finance capital.
And you know what, you know what description that fits? Well, ask Nasass daily. Welcome to Israel. I think that's Israel. I don't care how much they're smiling and how liberal they are and how much their women are wearing miniskirts and how punk rock they are or whatever. They are more fascist. I don't care that they have an acoustic guitar and they go, they're playing
sometimes, and on the mean the fire flies, a lot of fire flies. And that doesn't mean they're not
fascist. That doesn't mean anything. That doesn't mean they're not just as
violent as the Russian Nasbole who threw Molotovs at people. Because it's a more unique-like
disgusting form of violence where you're participating
in the genocide
and extermination of an entire
people, but you don't take responsibility
for all the hideousness and ugliness
of it. You sanitize of it.
You sanitize that
aspect from yourself, and you pretend to be morally superior because it's not tainting your image and your aesthetics.
Why is the CP USA, the so-called CPSA, why are they not canceled for being fascists when they are taking this position?
Imagine if we are Nazi Germany and Iran is like the USSR, for example, if you were living in America in the 1940s and a so-called American communist outfit was talking about how
they denounce the Soviet government while simultaneously somehow denouncing the attack.
That's what Trotskyites did, by the way.
Wouldn't you at least in some way make a connection and say, these are
fascist collaborators? These are absolutely people who are apologizing for the fascist
aggression by not unconditionally supporting the state that's fighting valiantly and heroically in self-defense
we would so why do why do why are we getting canceled and they're not because cancel culture
is literally for bitches that's why because cancel culture is for fucking bitches if you're
participating in cancel culture these for fucking bitches. If you're participating in cancel culture,
these are the dynamics you reinforce.
Because if cancel culture,
if this like,
if this fearmongering over the so-called boogeyman
of the so-called fascism
was so legitimate,
why isn't the CPUSA canceled in the same way? Why are there
no pearl clutching over the CPUSA in the same way there is about ACP? Because we scare
low testosterone males. And I'm sick of pretending we don't.
We scare them.
We intimidate them.
We make them uncomfy.
We force them to confront the fact that they are useless, worthless men.
And we make them feel bad about that aspect of themselves, that they are just
bitches.
I don't know what else to say.
And they are, these are just like morally corrupt people
who's more,
they have this weasel-like disposition
that really is just incompatible
with the type of real motherfucker shit
that we put out.
And they just don't fuck with us
for that reason.
And that's why they constantly call us fascists because they associate fascism with
paternalistic aggression or something, with fatherly aggression or something. It's so psychological for them, right?
But I can't believe we're living in an age where we get canceled and the CPUSA does not, even though they are signing joint statements with the Nasdaily Communist Party.
Welcome to Israel.
The Nasdaily Communist Party, along with the Tudor Party of Iran, which collaborates with the U.S. State Department, by the way, and then these people, can I sing the laments, should I be singing the lamentations at this point? Because these are the same people that, to god they're members i see it on
instagram and checktog all the time they're members called they fed jacket jackson and
they're working with the state department back to the party hey oh I just got to sing the lamentations of
I had to sing the lamentations.
I have to sing the lamentations of the injustice.
These people fed jack at us.
They call us feds.
They call us F.
They're working with the State Department backed Tudah party alongside the Communist Party of Israel.
Oh. I just got to sing the suffering and the pain and the lamentations.
I just got to sing it out because there's nothing else you could do.
It's just so fundamentally unjust.
It's so unjust.
It's so unjust. It's just so unjust. It's just so, isn't it, is it not unjust?
Is it not unjust?
Is it not fundamentally unjust
anyway uh nobody's requesting to speak because nobody will debate me
of course not of course not of course not
anyway the not. Of course not.
Anyway, the Iran conflict doesn't look like it's going to be wrapped up anytime soon.
I could be wrong about that. But from what I'm
seeing, they're claiming it's going to last up until and through
September.
Which is pretty fucking crazy, right?
And it looks like this is going to be the U.S. version of the SMO.
Believe it or not, it looks like that's what it's going to be and it could last a long time especially and and heggseth is already hinting at this especially if it becomes a ground war now if this becomes a ground war then it's going to change
fundamentally from what it currently is and the nothing there's nothing the iranians want more
than for this to turn into a ground war, by the way.
They're waiting.
Just like the guy said, they're waiting, desperately, for this to become a ground war, right?
Now, there's so much stuff I have to cover.
I want to cover Surnosad.
I want to, I really don't want to want to, but I'm going to because he ratioed us. Can you believe it?
The anime guy ratioed us.
So, Serno said, oh my
God, this guy is the most cancerous
fuck of all time. Like, he literally has
millions of tweets every second.
Holy fuck.
I'm not going through his timeline.
The guy literally won't shut the fuck up.
I have to go on Hugo Pink's fucking profile.
All right.
So, okay, so thankfully, Hugo Pink avenged us, which is actually quite nice, actually.
Ugo Pink avenged us.
Oh, Ugopnik.
That's what his name.
Yugo Pinnik.
Ugopnik. Got it. I name. Yugopnik. Ugopnik.
Got it.
I thought his name was Hugo Pink.
So, they go, can the commies?
All right, so he, he ratioed him, but we got ratioed by him.
So we made a tweet, Israel is in a real country.
It's propped up proxy for U.S. imperialism.
The dissolution of the state of Israel is necessary for the working class victory.
And then Surno said the anime
profile picture
LARPR. That's what he is.
He's a fucking LARPA.
And I'll explain why.
Can the commies please
shut the fuck up already?
It's the Jews. Why are you
censoring Jews? I don't know. Everyone
knows now. Your economic theory is bullshit
Was written by one of them. Just sit down and shut up
Except being wrong and fight the machine
alongside us. The Nat Sox were right. You were wrong.
Okay. I am going to clear my nose out a little because i am a little congested i'll be
right back uh before i explain the fine details and niceties of this this this profound contribution. You know, all right now um i don't know where to begin, actually. There's just so much here to work with. First of all, I don't understand how the Jews has more analytical utility than U.S. imperialism. Because what he's talking
about is an abstraction, whereas what we're talking about is a concrete global system and none of us are squeamish about
having to point out the fact that powerful Jews play a big role in that global system none of us are
politically correct or scared of saying that but when you just say it's the Jews, you're not
giving us many pointers. You're not really clarifying anything for us. You're just resorting to an
abstraction. U.S. imperialism is a concrete global system that is beyond the U.S. government in its enumerated capacity.
It absolutely bleeds into the private sector and international banks and so on and so on.
So there's nobody's really claiming this whole debate about what's the what's the pecking order? Does the US control Israel or vice versa? I've talked about this many times. The answer is that it's neither. There is a transnational, global capitalist class, organized capitalist class that controls the U.S. and also controls Israel.
And the reason Israel dominates official u.s. foreign policy and dominates america at large more jesus
yes israel america is under a zionist occupation but that's not because the state of is that powerful it's that the u.s constitution
reflects less the interests of this global capitalist class than the zionist state does in actuality.
And stupid people aren't going to understand that.
So I have to explain it with more simplification, I guess.
In the U.S., what we're seeing are constant violations of the u.s. constitution and these violations
line up with the interests of israel as a state but the only reason for that is that israel as a state
is more directly reflective of the interests of the same
shadow regime that controls both the U.S. and Israel.
U.S. Constitution was written what, you know, in 1776, so we're talking about a long time ago.
Okay, we're talking about nearly 300 years ago, right?
Israel is today carrying out directly the will of the global capitalist class.
The concrete one, the concrete system of U.S. imperialism.
So U.S. imperialism is not an extension of the U.S. Constitution.
It's not an extension of any enumerated Republican institution.
U.S. imperialism is a concrete global system whose centers of power are not
official. Officially the same thing as the U.S. government. People need to understand that.
But this is too profound and just too intellectual
for what I'm dealing with here
okay. Surnosad is a
retarded larper
who's telling us that the Nat Sox were right
the who? The who?
You know what he's talking about, right?
He's talking about an online anime LARP Discord community.
He's talking about a series of online fucking larpers who put swastikas on anime girls with anime skirts, anime school girls,
and they put swastikas on their skirts,
and they say, these are the Nat Sox.
Who the fuck are you, bitch?
You aren't a fucking actual political force.
You're not even organized in real life in any kind of fucking way.
So when he says the Nat Sox, what is he actually
fucking talking about? He's talking about an online Poland ball. You know this fucking
politball? The politball thing, the little balls that have political ideologies on them.
That's what he's talking.
I'm not even kidding.
He's talking about that.
Oh, the Nat Sox.
Who are the Nat Sox?
What are you?
You're not, you don't exist in real life.
You're not organized in any fucking way.
He is quote tweeting a real life actually existing organized party.
For better or for worse, the ACP is fucking real, right?
He's going, now you commies are wrong.
The Nat Sox are right.
Bro, who?
Who are you talking about?
Who is right?
No, no, think about it.
Like, it's a series of Discord anime servers that rep swastikas or whatever and he's pretending like we should take seriously this
ideology which doesn't even exist in the real world the nat socks bro what does that mean what does
that actually fucking mean?
Like, point to me concretely what that actually refers to in real life.
He's basically talking about, like, some curatorial tendency of, I like these reels.
I like these edits of Hitler.
I like, you know, I subscribe to this, um,
this internet community.
Okay.
Like who, but who the fuck act? You're not an actual
force in the real life that actually exists
in any fucking way. So shut the, sit, sit
the fuck down and shut the fuck up.
Why are you quote tweeting an actual real life party
while flexing
some non-existent nebulous
the Nat Sox? What does that even fucking refer to?
It's nothing. It means nothing and is nothing. Because the minute your bitch ass steps into the real world and tries to put those so-called Natsock values into practice, you're going to fail step one organizing a party of more than three people why because the guy who's 5%
uh you know uh ecuadorian is going to fight with the guy who's 2% African and they're going to decide who's more area.
And then, it's like the minute you try to make this real in real life, your internet
Larpfest, I get it, dude, I get it.
Your Gary's mod server, I get it.
Your ideology is like so, means so much on your Gary's mod,
dark RP server.
I get it.
Bro, I get it on your Roblox server.
I understand.
Like, it's a real faction.
No, no, I get it.
On your Roblox server,
it's a real faction, right? But in real life, no, no, bro, I get it. On your Gary's Mod, Dark RP server, the Natsox are totally a thing. It's totally a real faction that exists. No, no, on your Roblox server,
I totally get it.
It's like a real, oh, yeah, you can refer,
oh, they were right.
Yeah, they were right, yeah,
the Nat Sox were right about the admin abuse,
about how the moderator was giving free Robux
and there was corruption going on in the server
I get it dude you're a real thing it's a real you're yeah
you're 1942 RP Gary's mod server I get it dude
it's real on that server no no I get it trust me
it's so real it's so real. It's so...
It exists. It's actually a real thing.
But, blah, blah, blah, blah, in real life.
But, buddy, buddy, sit down, though. We're talking about real life, though, right?
We're talking about the Iran War. You're not a force that exists in the real world when it comes to the iran war okay i'm not claiming
my side it has such a huge right to brag we're not a huge party and the communist
movement in america basically doesn't exist outside of us.
And I get that.
But we have proven we can be real, and we are an actual thing.
And we have actually existed in the real world.
Communist movements do exist.
Natsock movements don't exist.
They're all retarded LARP.
They've never actually amounted to anything name me a single
country outside of nazi germany which
whose whole ideology was based on winning wars then they lost the war
after that name me a single time nat socks
could put their ideas to practice and seize power anywhere name me a single time nat socks could put their ideas to practice and seize power anywhere
name me a single time that ever happened
just shut the fuck up bro sit the fuck down
buddy sit like i am trying desperately
to have a mating of successful outlooks.
Iranian Islamic mystical revolutionary outlook
with the Marxist-Leninist tradition.
I am absolutely trying to create a bridge
between those things. You are trying to create a bridge between those things.
You are trying to create a bridge between one Roblox server and a Gary's Mod 1942 dark RP server.
That's what you're fucking doing.
I am trying to make a understanding between real life successful revolutionary traditions.
You are trying to make an alliance between dark RP Gary's mod servers.
We are not in the same league, bro.
Sit the fuck down and shut the
fuck up. Your ideology
is just as real as the anime girl
that you rep in your profile picture.
Sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up and know your
fucking place, you stupid larping piece of shit.
You're nothing.
You are a nothing.
You don't have the right to talk to us. You have an
anime profile picture. For fuck's sake.
And you live in Australia. Why is an Australian
with an anime profile picture? Talking about Nats Sox interacting with the American
Communist Party. What is going on? You live in Australia. Why are you talking to us? What is the
point of this? Do you mean to tell me that an Australian Natsock
movement is about to seize
control
and you know what the best part of this is
he goes
Nasrallah I do this for you in his description
you see that isn't this the best part this is what Nasrallah actually said
he said the same
shit that the ACP said
he's got
remember he's got Nisrella in his
in his bio
he's what Nisrallah said
the al-Atta al-Ahear from Biden be accurate here's what Niswola said the
call the
last
from Biden
he'll
make sure
all that we're
we're
not
the American
but they
want
to be
a thing
he's
a way
they're
they're they're
not the American
may
be able to
ask that's a fact a there's there there that the American may be able to ford to get on Israel. This is
a
thought there
have you
have been there's
no
there's
that I'm
America
no
America.
America
is the
America is
the
story.
This
the
Lube
Jewish and
Zionia
this
this,
not you're going to
yawabia, but
to the Arab
and at a time
where Iran is bombing these retarded
fat-ass Gulf Arab states,
could this not be more topical?arded fat-ass Gulf Arab states. Could this not be more topical?
These fat-ass retarded Gulf Arabs were sitting on their ass.
Qatar, and all of them helped create this myth of the omnipotence of the Jewish lobby.
Because they wanted an excuse for why they wouldn't get off their fat fucking ass and do something themselves.
And that's the darn truth.
Yes, the Jewish lobby, yeah, the Jews Jews the organized Jewish lobby in America
Zionist lobby
absolutely they're aggressive
absolutely restlessly
they're restlessly
restlessly plotting and scheming
I know they are I get it
but they're not as scheming. I know they are. I get it.
But they're not as powerful as the
Cernosads want you to make us think
they are, because what they're trying to turn
them into is invincible leprechauns
whose will cannot be contradicted.
That is blatantly false.
Zionists are not that smart.
In fact,
have the lowest intelligence among the entire Jewish
race or whatever you want to call them.
The Zionists are retarded.
It doesn't get deeper
than Alan Dershowitz
and Rabbi Shmuli. These are not
smart people. Even Jeffrey Epstein was a
fucking brainlit retard.
So this idea that they're invincible and there's nothing you can, no, no, no, give me a
fucking break.
Okay, Shabos Kestenbaum is the smartest there probably is and he's retarded, right?
Shabos Kestenbaum
is not the smartest guy in the world. I'm sorry.
He goes,
Your theory was created by one of them.
It's like,
you haven't you have an anime profile picture you live in australia you have a cross in your username and you you claim to be a nat sock
why are you even opening your mouth about anything that you claim to be a Natsok.
Why are you even opening your mouth about anything that exists in the world in the first place?
Yeah, while LARPing as a Russian, what is going on?
And even they go to America and put the money and make a lot of them
to make a lot of America, that we're
doing lubei Arabi to
the nafess the lube of the Jewish.
Listen, Nisrallah really nuked these fucking people.
Sheffed me 5.70s, what it's what it was about? fucking people. He said 75 years
what's
a lot of
Arab
other
that's
all the
money
all am
kathas
in the
American
he,
this was
such an
intelligent
observation
he made
this is a rab excuse He, this was such an intelligent observation he made.
This is a rab excuse,
a rab tether excuse,
a bunch of traders and sellouts that kiss the fucking ass of the fucking U.S. dollar.
Worship the U.S. dollar.
A bunch of fucking fat-ass useless Arabs.
No, the Zinists and the Jews are not all-powerful.
They're not.
Randy Fine is not the smartest guy
and most adversarially
challenging opponent we're ever going to face
if Zinus are lapping you up
Cernosad it's literally because you're a fucking retard
okay dead ass dead, dead ass, dead ass, dead ass, I will bet, I'm willing to bet every,
everything I own to my name that Iranians are much more intelligent than zionist jews iranians are much more intelligent
sophisticated and cunning than zionist jews Because think about this.
Ones of you can hear me fine.
All right.
I'm just going to ban this piece of shit.
Get the fuck out of here.
13-month subscriber.
I'll give you one chance to fucking apologize
for saying you can't hear.
One chance to apologize.
If you didn't apologize, ban him.
All right.
Anyway, look, if you switched spots between the Zionists and the Iranians against overwhelming
odds, think about, I want you to think about this.
If the most powerful empire in the world
was targeting you
and marked you for death,
and keep this in mind,
the West got a head start,
500-year head-start,
and the Industrial Revolution and colonialism.
They concentrated and accumulated all the world's wealth and resources in these small centers in Europe and America.
So they had that head start because of the steam engine and the naval technology that developed, yada, yada, yada.
And so Zinus just aped off of the head start the West got.
But could Zinus would they have the intelligence to pull off
what iran has and against overwhelming odds build the missile capacity that it has against overwhelming on go toe to toe with not only the
most powerful empire in the history of the world but the culmination of 500 years of a head start
of the west colonialism and technological advance over the rest of the world.
America is the culmination of that.
How can little Iran go toe to toe and actually be challenging as an opponent to the culmination of modernity itself the u.s empire how is it able
to fucking do that you have to understand how intelligent these iranians are you're dealing with a
level of intelligence that's almost superhuman. If anyone is intelligent, you know, to the point where you should be like, oh, my God, they're like aliens.
It's the Iranians.
It's not the Zionist Jews who are all like Randy Fine and Shabos Kestenbaum and Rabbi Shmouli.
They're that fucking stupid.
Yuval Noah Harari
Sapiens, the author of Sapiens.
Retard! Sam Altman.
Retard! CEOs are these big tech companies.
Fucking retards.
They're not actually smart.
They're welfare queens.
They're fucking bums that are aping off of.
The culmination of 500 years of Western colonialism.
That's all they're fucking doing.
They're not that smart.
They're really not.
Iranians are so much smarter than them.
Because if the roles were reversed, could the Zionists be in Iran's shoes?
Fuck, no, they couldn't.
Are you kidding?
Could the Zionists from scratch build a resistance against the entire fucking West?
No, it couldn't.
You know,
you're dealing with people fighting an uphill battle going up against the most powerful formations
in history to this point.
They just started waking up.
They've just started to embrace modernity.
They didn't even know what it was before then.
It struck them like lightning.
And we're seeing who's smart and who's retarded in real time.
Like, oh God, Kamikilla is here.
All right, Kamikilla, can you cough a few times before you turn your mic on?
We all know that you suffer from
sickness
did you remove him
QFK what happened
no he's still here
all right
commie killer go ahead Yeah, hello!
Yo, unmute yourself. unfucking mute yourself
Holy shit
He dropped down
Okay, that's great
And uh
I imagine nobody okay nobody wants to nobody likes this topic let's just say uh debating I'd say debating pro-Zionists.
They won't debate, though.
Because it's not up for debate, according to them right and nobody wants to div i was thinking that droop have lu types would join but uh they're not
going to join so we're going to wait for uh others uh...
Pahalavi supporters will not
join this fucking debate
this guy named Apollo
proudly anti-libera proudly okay I't know, I don't think this guy is opposed to us.
Go ahead, Apollo. he dropped down All right, well, look
Twitter's been acting up today, yeah, I heard.
I look fucking homeless as fuck.
I should have showered before the stream.
I was in the rain.
But anyway, it's okay. It's okay. yeah I mean look guys
we're facing a big crisis which is that
believe it or not
this is what I'm scared of I'm scared that the word
communism is no longer even, no longer even has a revolutionary
connotation anymore because of these disgusting Euro-communist, you know, KKE, you know, these, these
larping, these social Democrat pieces of shit who turned it into this
happy rainbow fun time sunshine bullshit movement instead of the revolutionary movement from
Lenin's era, right? Instead of Mao and Lenin's revolutionary movement, instead of Stalin, instead of this
dark Mali type, we are dark Mali communists, right?
But these people, they've domesticated and whitewashed communism so much it's become so cringe and toothless
that the most radical it the most radical form it takes now is
calling for a genocide of cisgender people
as a joke
and you know
I don't know like
I feel like I've been beating a dead horse for years on this
but Iran is so much more revolutionary than them
do you notice that Iran is actually giving the U.S. Empire a bloody nose
standing on business on some real shit.an is on some real shit the the dominant communists of today where are they
where are they you know some people say we need to abandon the label communism because it's too radical.
I worry about the opposite.
I worry that the label is no longer radical.
I worry that for some people, it's very tame, actually, that it's very wholesome and it's very much you know social democrat
you know your legs are crossed in the cafe with the scarf on it It's really disgusting.
It sickens me.
And I was talking about this.
It's simply not at the cutting edge because of these revisionist pieces of shit,
these swine,
who have completely these traitors, who have completely these traitors
who have completely fucking liquidated
and erased the revolutionary essence.
And why I'm saying this is because it should be a pause for consideration. Iran. Iran is the
revolutionary force in the world today. And meanwhile, leftists are still gibbering and debating amongst themselves about whether Iran is worthy of their support.
Buddy, Iran has outpaced you.
Iran is already on the move at the revolutionary vanguard and your bitch ass is sitting in a cafe doing nothing.
It's like you are no longer
the most revolutionary outlook in the world
today. That should bother you if you're a Marxist.
Shouldn't it?
Apollo, what's up?
Hey, my bad man.
The mic wouldn't work, so I couldn't really, uh, get on.
I just wanted to say, man, um, how long do you think the, uh, the Petro dollar has?
Until, uh, it goes crash.
Uh, this is a debate space, all right?
I don't want to talk about random topics.
I don't believe, I don't, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I'm so bored by that question.
I'm sorry.
And no one will debate me. It's so fascinating. It's so fascinating. No one will debate me.
Oh, this guy named Baba Bowie. Who the fuck is this? He's got his teacher's pet from recess
schools out as a profile picture.
Go ahead.
Go ahead. We need better bait. 100%
we need better bait I guess no one is pro Zionist
today
right I added him and then he fucking quit. It's always just happening.
Everyone should just drop 20 subs.
We just need the energy.
We need the energy going.
We need an energetic...
I'm going to do a saline rinse as soon as the stream is over.
We need an energetic reshuffle because this is just atrocious.
The content is coming.
Hold on.
We're going to change the space title i think the thing is that the best you know what the best content is
and always has been the best content has always been debating leftists it's always been the best
content right amiel what's up been debating leftists. It's always been the best content, right?
Amel, what's up? The best content we've
ever done is debate leftists in
22. They do not debate
because they are so easy
to fucking dog walk. They are
the easiest debate opponents. By far is left walk. They are the easiest debate
opponents, by far as leftists.
They're so fucking easy to destroy.
They don't even pose a chance, right?
Zerwis up.
But the problem...
Zerwini, bro, thank you. Thanks you so much.
The problem. Suiz, what's up, bro? thank you. Thanks so much. The problem.
Suiz.
What's up, bro?
With the 20.
Holy fuck.
Actually, Suez dropped the 20.
What the fuck?
Shout out to Suez, bro.
That's some real ass shit.
Zerwini, Suez.
Thank you, guys.
Appreciate you.
The thing is, they don't debate is they don't debate
because they don't have honor, right?
Roxov, what's up?
I'll tell you the truth, guys.
The leftists have become
so estrogenic.
They don't feel called out.
Usually when you challenge people
there's like an honor thing
oh you're saying I'm not shit
that's what I'm saying like look
I'm gonna be real I'm about to say some transphobic
whatever I gotta watch
what I say right
but look leftists
when you tell them
a bitch you ain't nothing
stand on business and debate or else you a low
bitch and these low testosterone
leftist males are like
well you know what I am a bitch
and I'm proud of it like Like that's the problem. That's why they
don't debate. They don't have pride or honor at all. They have already conceded by virtue of their
existence. It's like, yo, debate or you ain't got balls.
They're like, oh yeah, I don't have balls.
And they chop off their, I don't know.
I'm just telling you how it is.
Like, they don't have honor.
They don't have anything to stand up. They don't have any pride.
They don't have any, like, I have, I want to be dominant and I want to conquer. They don't have that. Middle A's what's up? I'm just saying they don't debate. They won't confront. They won't do any of that. Remember, oh, I didn't even cover this.
Why did I not cover this?
Holy shit.
Someone please put it in show requests because I lost it.
Okay, I'm going to try to find it right here.
I'm going to try to find it right here. I'm going to try to find it debating anti-ACP for now.
I just want to show you guys some shit that this was like the funniest thing
like genuinely
this level of posturing by an
MUG
an MUG
DSA Mug
Are you all ready
this guy is in DSA he's an Mug DSA right
watch this shit
look at the ridiculousness
ACP would be put down in it
under my regime
ACP would be put down
Under my regime
You're toast
Oh my God
I'm so scared
Under your regime
Literally he's playing with Barbie dolls Imagining a scenario I'm so scared under your regime.
Literally, he's playing with Barbie dolls,
imagining a scenario in which he would have any power at all.
He claims he's a special ed teacher.
Hey, they say the best teachers have a lot in common with their students.
And then ACB would be put down.
Putting down Freakops would be good, actually.
Oh my God, he didn't even pull off the ratio.
He lost.
Calling us FreeCops. Sure, buddy. buddy whatever if it killed
so he's literally saying free cops are okay
if it kills the national
running into it
there's something funny that I saw though
it's right here
that was a promise
not a threat
not worth responding to these people
when their politics are on the i've never seen an mug person in person ever in my life
anywhere i've seen many ACP people.
You can find ACP people quite easily.
I've never met one of these people in real life outside of Twitter.
Hold on.
Where did he say this really funny thing, though?
I just want, I just wanted this, like, this is crazy, right?
Ah, okay, you still think this is a conversation.
Let me switch this up.
I do not consider you capable of having a conversation.
The ACP is a petite bourgeois
far-right deviation.
Even that's being too kind.
There is nothing radical about them.
I wish them the worst.
Bye.
Under my regime, you would be put down.
But I am so tough, and I am so convinced. Listen, under my regime, you would be put down. But I am so tough and I am so convinced,
listen, under my regime, you would be put down.
That is not a promise.
Sorry, that is not a threat.
It's a promise.
Ah, but you think we are having a conversation.
Let me switch it.
Bro, is this like, this is the most terminal Reddit voice I've ever heard in my life.
And the funniest part of all this is that I know this guy is just some, like, retarded guy in the internet.
But like, isn't it funny how, like, in real life, I just beat the brakes off of him and he start crying?
Isn't it funny?
Like, he's talking big shit.
He's going to do something to ACP.
And then I just beat the shit out of him.
And then he's crying on the ground
Like, well, okay
Would he be a victim?
I don't know
Like imagine this guy
He just gets his ass beat
Like honestly, you talk this big shit
I don't know
I don't know
I don't know what your kind of energy
You're asking for
When he talked this big shit.
You're going to put us down.
Okay, buddy.
We're going to, we'll test that for sure.
We'll test that for sure.
Under my regime, you're going to be put down.
Buddy, under my reality, I'm going to curb
stomp your bitch ass. In a video game.
Like, why
do we have to larp these future scenarios?
You have a fucking problem with us, confront us,
bitch, right?
Like, the guy who has too much
social anxiety to debate me with his voice is grandstanding about how they're going to put us down in this future scenario where they're in power.
At a time when their government is at war with Iran, they're not going to do a fucking thing, you bitch-ass.
You're not going to do shit.
You ain't shit.
Think about it.
Think about it.
Like, if they're too scared to debate.
I'm not even kidding.
They're afraid.
You're going to, you're going to be fighting anyone in any scenario?
It's fucking hilarious.
But yeah, I mean, look, we need better bait. Let's see.
I'll just do the baiting the far right.
That's the best one.
That's always the best one.
Purple Tuesday.
Hello.
Purple Tuesday, go ahead.
Hello, everybody. Hello, Haz.
I just had a, I'm not like completely opposed to the ACP, but I was a little bit of criticism I'm not sure if you're taking that
or at all but I was
curious about
literally
when there's a bunch of online
I feel like too many
people on
the ACP
there is like
not unified I would say
sort of like
I don't know how to explain it
but it's like all over the place
it's kind of
it's a bit messy
that's what I would say that's all are you high no okay what do you mean i was
i was saying like because whenever i see these posts i've seen like a lot of ACP
posters, they're online.
And
for example, I was looking at
RTSG and
stuff that he kind of posts
is like like it gets
okay
I'll just jump off it's just stupid shit
that I was thinking but
I feel like it's not effective the way
it's going now but
I'm I'm trying to differ
I don't know what you're talking about at all okay take you guys
not really giving us many pointers here my pointer okay let me try to explain it clearly um I feel like
yes it's a good strategy to post online to speak up and all that stuff.
At the same time, I feel like the American First people, they sort of have better memes.
They sort of have like maybe, I don don't know that's what I feel like
um
I disagree I think their memes are dog shit and retarded
a lot of them are but
they have better like how do I say
they have like like, how do I say? They have like
maybe
this is just progress.
Maybe you guys are going to be working towards it, like growing
this movement, but
that's what I see from my perspective right now.
Let me ask you a question. Do you think they use bots?
They probably do.
Amanda, what's up?
Yeah, they just use bots, bro.
They don't have good memes.
They just use bots. I'm not even kidding. They use bots. We have proof of it. We don't know where they're getting the bots from. We actually think that they might have enough resources to have one of those phone farms straight up
I think that's pretty
it's kind of becoming
I think they have one of them
phone farms that they have
I don't know where it is yet
we don't know yet
who's giving it to them
but they definitely have that shit
okay I hope the best for you them but they definitely have that shit.
Okay.
I hope the best for you guys.
Well, you can
make some ACP memes to show us how it's done.
I will try.
Take care, guys.
Take care, guys. Take care.
Okay.
We have a Epsteinite pedophile that wants to speak.
The Epstein.
Go ahead, that Epstein.
That island. Go ahead, that island go ahead that island go ahead island boy are you talking to me yeah i'm talking you
because he's an island boy go ahead
ahead
re-stallanized Restallinization. That's what I'm talking about. Go ahead.
Go ahead. Island boy. Go ahead. He just fucking left.
Ato. Go ahead. Ato.
Hey, what's up? My name's Aaron.
I'm from Southwest Florida here.
I just want to say, you made a point about like, like, you know, the Western leftists and stuff.
And one of the things that kind of remind me of like, it's because for me, like, I'm actually,
someone who actually is from the outside
actually kind of likes you guys, like the ACP.
I think you guys have a lot of good points.
But one thing I was in my back of my mind,
because I've been reading a lot of books lately,
and one of those things was
Blackhirts and Reds by Michael Parenti.
I think a lot of people really need to read that
because, especially chapter 4,
it talks about communism or Wonderland and stuff
and how, like, everyone has, like,
this utopian idea
about what communism or socialists is.
And you're right. It kind of, like, everyone, like,
whitewashes it. Like, not, like, you see it today. Like, you're absolutely right. It kind of like, everyone whitewashes it.
Like, not, like, you see it today.
Like, you're absolutely right.
And for me, that, like, that was a turning point for me.
It was like, okay, like, I kind of understand it now.
Like, it's not like what I thought it was, you know.
After really, someone like
Parenti, it kind of like revolutionized me
more, like, understand, like,
those things were real, like, what happened
to Russia and Lenin's Day and stuff. Like, that
was real, like, him reaching out to, like, the
peasants and stuff, it was, like,
that's super important, like, no one, like, you know what I'm saying? I don't know and stuff. It was like, that's super important.
Like, no one, like, you know what I'm saying?
I don't know.
I just appreciate, like, what you guys do and stuff, sort of from the outside.
You know.
What, why haven't you joined?
You're right.
I, I'm actually a reserved member
I just haven't fully
like actually committed yet
I was been like
The Florida chapter
They're on some real shit
They're doing some real shit
Is it?
Yeah
I've been seeing their stuff too
Because I've been seeing them
To clean up like, Tampa and stuff.
You see, I live, like, is that where, like,
the one of the things is that?
Because I'm, I'm, like, two hours south from Tampa.
I live, I live, like, the Fort Lares Cape Coral area.
It's, like, you know what I'm saying?
We might have, I don't know for sure,
but,
uh,
listen,
man,
don't be a stranger.
Don't be shy.
Tap in.
Yeah,
absolutely.
Um,
another thing,
the reason why I haven't joined to you,
because I'm,
one of these days,
you need to check your email and,
uh,
finish the sign up as well.
Yes.
Absolutely.
And another reason why I was holding back because one day I want to move out west close
to one of my siblings and stuff.
Don't worry about it.
We can transfers when people move, it's super easy.
But the best thing is to just start getting to know our people, you know?
Yeah, I've been seeing, like, Eddie's stuff, like, and whatnot.
Eddie's really, like, he's, like, probably one of the main guys.
I haven't seen all those old YouTube videos and stuff, too.
I just want to give that shout out and that appreciation.
You're absolutely right when it talks about these Western leftists today.
They think it's some fucking utopia,
or they think it's something like what Sweden has or like Norway
which is like absolutely not you know
like China DPRK Cuba
like people really need to realize
that like what the actual revolution
is like you're right it's not some fucking rainbows
and unicorns bullshit like you're absolutely right
I think you can nail on that.
All right, for sure, bro.
But that's what I want to say.
Peace out, guys.
All right.
See you later, bro.
Bye-bye.
Yes, sir.
Thank you, mate.
All right.
So, uh,
we're back to Island Boy,
the Nick Fuentes fan, the Island Boy.
So Island Boy, why are you here?
Oh, I just wanted to say, like, I met Eddie, too, and he's like five foot three, maybe.
I was wondering if you're taller than him oh uh i think you're
confusing this for a gay gay app that you're on or something you're looking for some males
sizing them up and stuff i think you're in the wrong place buddy i understand this is your community and this is what y'all are about, but I think you're
in the, maybe you clicked a few wrong buttons and you got confused and lost.
By the way, Eddie would beat your ass.
Why am I even talking about it?
This guy is, I'm just trolling. I'm a little
frog. It's just a joke to me. All right. So what do you want? Go ahead. He's an island boy.
You know what's funny about these people?
They're actually all so small.
I'm not even kidding.
Why did he leave?
He left.
Bro, I'm not going to lie.
They are so small, these people.
Like, I remember one of them was talking shit.
Oh, you guys are so short.
You're so short.
He turns out a dead ass to be shorter than all of us.
Like by a lot.
And I'm like, what the hell?
Anyway, I don't know what the point of it is
bro just go get the leg lengthening surgery like why if it's bothering you so much
go change your surge go get the leg lengthening anything right i'm sure you can afford it
because you're you guys are all rich and successful
like Nick Fuentes says you are, right?
Go ahead, Naifonate.
Hey, what's the best country to flee to
in nuclear war? Like, serious question.
It's random, but what do you think?
Best country to flee to?
Yeah, if there's like a gig of nuclear war, where would you go?
Kind of a retarded question.
It is retarded, yes.
So, like, because if there's a nuclear war,
you're not going to have time
to get out of the blast zone.
So what are you talking about?
Say, like, you knew that it was coming.
Like, some insider told you
there's a nuclear war coming.
I would say build a bunker, bro.
Get a bunker.
You wouldn't look up and smile at the end of capitalism?
From my bunker, I would.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, that's all I have.
Okay.
What kind of question is that?
You wouldn't look up and smile like,
what the hell?
That doesn't mean you can't have a bunker.
What are we even talking about
i don't know i have more questions but i forgot them so
where's the gorpers at
it's the same it's the same people that always come you notice that's the same people
the same people same people that always requests to speak it's always the same people it's
look this guy's literally been in every space ever done we got the same cast of people.
At this point, it's like there's some people that think
when I do these spaces, it's like a hangout
space. Oh, this is my spot.
Let's go hang out with Haas at the
hangout space. It's the same
three or four people that come.
And just they're so comfortable here.
They just, they're, they're always looking for the opportunity.
We never actually get challenged.
We're, we're, listen, it's like I'm Don Quixote.
Where the age of honor and chivalry is over.
People don't stand on business anymore.
They don't actually defend what they believe anymore.
They don't actually debate.
They don't actually...
They've given up.
They've blackpilled.
They've given up on the possibility that they can win debates or defend the honor of their beliefs and their position.
And it's very, it's quite sad.
It's quite sad.
It's quite sad, you know, it's quite sad.
And but I'm always getting these bots in my Instagram,
I always get these people that are constantly...
ACPR landlords, ACPR, this...
It's like, look, it would take 30 seconds of a confrontation with these people.
To nuke them out of orbit and to just completely dismantle whatever line of attack they think they have against us.
I guess that the only one
that they have is that they say we're bigoted
on sexuality
issues, which we're not,
but I'm just saying it's not like we're waving flags
and shit. So it's like
they think this is enough.
Okay, they're like,
they're like, look,
they'll be like, listen,
ACP, you guys are,
um,
what's some crazy shit they'll say?
They'll be like,
yeah,
they're landlords and you,
uh,
beat up homeless people and you, uh, you, uh, you, yeah, they're landlords and you beat up homeless people and you
you, uh, you, you hail Hitler and it's like,
well, hey, hey, hey, none of those things are true.
Yeah, but you're transphobic.
It's like, that's honestly the type of shit
they're on. It's like, they have these actual
like crazy lines of attack on us.
None of them have substance.
But they don't care because they did.
It ultimately boils down to the fact that we're not going to wave their stupid, cringy larp flags.
And it's like, that's so sad.
I don't know.
It's not sad.
I'm just saying, like,
why are you expecting communists to be on board?
Why are people less outraged about the so-called CPUSA,
signing a joint statement with the Tudor Party and the Communist Party of Israel?
Why are people less outraged about that than they are about the fact that Jackson Hinkle made transphobic comments. People are more upset at ACP for transphobia
than they are at the CPUSA for signing a joint statement with the Tudor Party and Communist
Party of Israel who are denouncing the Iranian
government.
How does that fucking, if you're a revolutionary, which one is a worst crime?
How does it make sense that the crime is transphobia and not in i don't understand i mean why why is this crazy why i don't
know i'm crazy i guess right i'm just a i guess i guess this just confirms right they're
they're they're red fascists they're nossbols meanwhile
the nuclear bomb actual russian nossbols are more revolutionary than the overall
majority of quote unquote communist parties in Solidnet.
CPSA, the KKE, they're not revolutionaries.
These are CAFE, quote unquote communist.
They're not fucking Russian Nosossbol's say what you want
about them. They were fighting in Ukraine
in the trenches.
And in the 2000s and 90s, they were
throwing Molotovs as Zionist oligarchs.
Hey, you know what?
I don't know why I'm supposed
to be more offended of being
associated with them versus
being associated with
the quote unquote communist party of
Israel and the Tudor
Party and the CPUSA.
It's much more embarrassing to be associated with the CPUSA, with Trotskyites,
with these Eurocommunist Soctem reformist pieces of trash,
than it is to be associated with literal Russian Nazbolls.
It's much more embarrassing.
They're like, well, and it's like 10 degrees away from Hitler, right?
200,000 million degrees away from Hitler.
And we need a, we need to, guys, we need to root out the quote unquote Nasbolts and fearmonger about
Nasbols because if we don't, they're going to do another Holocaust.
Meanwhile, they are already doing another Holocaust in Gaza, and they're trying to do one in Iran, like right now, right?
Honestly, you know what?
Do I need to raise this topic?
Is this some kind of Zionist Jewish supremacy going on?
Are Palestinian lives just worth less than Jewish lives? Is that what this is?
No, no, no. Are we going to go down this path? Should we start litigating this question? Are the lives of Iranians and Palestinians worth less than that of Jews and the minds of the socialism for all these people that call us Nazis and fascists? Do they consider in a matter of less urgency to oppose Zionism than some fake boogeyman of Nazbolism that's in their head?
Which one is actually more important from the perspective of genocides happening now?
Or have happened in recent memory?
What is this even about anymore?
Is this an ideology that's just based on Zionist Jewish supremacy? Or is it about opposing the genocidal, anti-human evil.
I mean, what is it actually about anymore?
I'm lost. Can you fill me in?
Did you know that ACP was supposed to do a pro-Palestine event?
I'm not going to say which chapter, but they were going to, you know, they contributed resources, whatever, helped organize it. And some rich Jewish leftist kid shut it down. He said,
no, ACP are fascists. Get rid of them. The fuck? It was a pro-Palestine event. And one of these, I think it was the Jewish peace people.
I don't know.
Some rich Jewish peace guy kicked us out and said they can only participate if they don't rep ACP.
And what I'm curious about at this point is... if they don't rep ACP.
And what I'm curious about at this point is, who is this for it's not for palestinians apparently
it's supposed to placate the feelings of liberals and zinus who is calling us who is attacking us What are they prioritizing, right?
We have,
QFK, we have one request to speak.
Who's requesting to speak?
Dale Gribble.
He's a supporter, is's up?
Not much. I wanted to give i i wasn't sure if i'd i'd be able to make
this comment but i wanted to give a bit of i wanted to give a bit of personal experience in this one
i feel like 98% of
like the hatred of the ACP is
mostly online.
I've went to
events hosted by other
organizations and at
most people were just kind of
curious if not kind of circling around the worst thing that happened was some guy from the CP USA
glared at us a little bit no I mean I see the same thing I've seen the same thing but I feel like a lot of that is also like these are just snakes.
They're like talking shit online and then in person, they're bowing their heads because they know what they're doing is wrong.
Yeah, it could be.
I think I saw something similar especially here when we were doing something someone made like some little snide comment and then just that's it. Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's a lot of it's online for sure.
But on some real shit, these people do conspire against us and try to block us internationally.
100%.
CPUSA has been
trying to work overtime
to slander us.
There's shit I can't even tell you.
They have been putting a lot of effort
and a lot of work into undermining us.
I'll just tell you that much.
I wouldn't be surprised.
From what I've heard from somebody in the chapter,
they're basically just Chuck Schumer's line to Beijing at this point.
And I'm guessing to keep solid,
they want to keep their place in solid net
so they can keep doing that.
So they can what?
So they can keep
being Chuck Schumer's line to
Beijing as kind of like
a diplomatic envoy.
I didn't, yeah, that's, I'm not going to, I'm not going to elaborate more on that, but it's crazy.
Yeah, it's crazy.
Yeah.
Anyways, thanks for having me on you're sure
uh all right All right.
So we've got some other stuff to cover.
And...
And...
Give me one second.
We have quite a few things to cover. what the fuck is this
look at this crazy comment
from uh reddit literally a reddit comment
this is crazy
i don't know i'm going to speak to anyone who comment. This is crazy.
I don't know. I'm going to speak to anyone who will listen at this point.
So tired of capitalism. I'm going
just about anyone who's open to discuss the ideas
of socialism, middle class,
the homeless, bored, rich housewives.
I just want socialism at this point.
I don't care how it's achieved.
As long as it has nothing to do with
some Nasbole ACP.
Yeah, we're honored
to be the exception, buddy. Trust me.
We're honored to be your exception
because you're a fake bitch,'s why it's all you're
all about some revolutionary shit you're all about some radical shit until it's time to talk about
acp you fake bitch just your fucking hypocrisy you fucking champagne socialist fake bitch um i don't i'm not here to cause more divisiveness on the issue
but uh a lot of people were upset about what I said about
Venezuela. A lot of people were upset about what I said about Venezuela. A lot of people were
upset. A lot of people were very upset about what I said about Venezuelaenezuela so here's i want to say one to three things
about my comment when i said that delsey was a traitor okay um first thing okay notice how it wasn't until i reached moscow that i unequivocally said dulcie was a traitor
before i went before I was in Moscow
I did not say anything
I didn't know anything I didn't say anything
okay
um
I was very reluctant
to make the comment that
Delcy sold out Maduro and that she's a traitor
before I went to Moscow, right? So maybe, maybe I don't speak talking out of my ass. Maybe there's a lot of
information that, you know, I know about that strongly leads me to believe that that is the case
to the point where I'm willing to say that.
I kind of just want to share with you what it is.
I don't know if I can or cannot.
But it was so fucking...
I'll have to ask my comrades if I could just share it.
But it's pretty fucking damning to me, right?
And it's enough for me to say fuck her.
She's a traitor. Right.
And if you don't like that, I'm sorry,
you know.
But I'm not talking out of my ass.
I'm not... Second of all,
I don't like this argument that,
oh, well, Delsey's just being pragmatic
just like Beijing does and like, well, Delsey's just being pragmatic, just like Beijing does.
And, like, well, she's just agreeing to a treaty under duress like Breslid Vosk or like how China does.
And you just want Venezuela to sacrifice pragmatism and trade for the sake of some suicidal war.
Actually, I'm not saying that. I think there's a big elephant in the room missing, right?
Which is that they kidnapped the president. Why is Maduro no longer the sitting president of Venice?
Because they kidnapped him.
And I don't know why I am being gaslit and being made to feel like I'm some unreasonable ultra-leftist for pointing out that that is an act of war and that if you do not retaliate against such an act, you have surrendered your sovereignty.
All I'm saying is Venezuela is not a sovereign state. That's all. If you think that the best strategy going forward is to cease being
a sovereign state altogether, then admit that the Bolivarian Revolution is no longer in charge of Venezuela.
Because it isn't. Because Venezuela isn't sovereign.
By any definition of sovereignty, it's just not.
If you say, well, you know, it's going to bring more prosperity and wealth for the Venezuelan people,
you can make that argument.
I disagree with that in the long term. In the long term, I disagree with that in the long term
in the long term I disagree with that
but if you think that that's fine
you don't have sovereignty
I don't know why it's so unreasonable
to say that
it's like no this wasn't a deal.
Well, Maduro was going to make the same deal.
Yeah, you're right.
Maduro, as the sitting president of Venezuela,
was going to make a deal under duress to prevent the United States from officially and directly destroying Venezuela's sovereignty.
But the U.S. has already done that. So it's not really a deal at this point. It's an occupation.
And I don't know why I'm crazy.
I'm being made to feel like I'm crazy for saying that.
It's not a deal.
It's an occupation.
Well, China doesn't...
They didn't kidnap Xi Jinping.
Why is this crazy for me?
Why are we gaslighting ourselves
and pretending everything's...
It's just like a change in circumstance.
Don't worry.
No, buddy.
They kidnapped the fucking president.
That's an act of war.
They changed who leads Venezuela.
How is the U.S. allowed to change who leads?
If your country, if you're the leader of your country can change
because the U.S. forced you to, like, that's not
sovereignty. I'm sorry.
And
anyone who's
talking about pragmatism and saying
I'm, who are you to talk? Haas?
Nobody. I'm nobody.
I am impersonally making the observation that Venezuela is not a sovereign country anymore.
Haas, who are you to say that?
You're sitting in Michigan?
Correct.
I'm sitting in Michigan as a citizen of the country that occupies and colonizes Venezuela.
And I'm allowed to be honest about what reality is, okay?
I'm just allowed to be honest about what reality is.
I'm not going to delude myself.
I'm not going to huff copium about this.
And the third thing I want to say is this.
I am so, and I am an honorable person, and I will say this.
I am so confident that Delsey is a sellout and a trader.
That six months from now,
either I will have been so thoroughly and comprehensively been discredited and disproven about that fact,
I will, if in those circumstances, six months from now that I'm disproven in some way,
I will publicly apologize. I have no
problem swallowing my pride
and honorably
apologizing for having been
wrong. But I'm so
confident in this fact that I think six months from now,
the most ardent defenders of Delci right now who are coping,
will admit that I was right or will at least now understand
the reality behind the claim she's a traitor.
So give it six to eight months, and I just think everything is going to be clarified.
Why?
Because the United States now is pushing for the idea that there's going to be a transition in Venezuela from what they have now to, quote, unquote, democracy, where they're basically going to liquidate the Venezuelan state.
If that happens, I will happily accept the apologies of the people attacking me for calling her a traitor.
Yeah, they're telling her to extradite Alex Saab and, hey, just let the humiliations pile on, and the supporters will keep saying it's pragmatism and that it's
you know it's it's somehow you know uh all part of the plan but there's going to be a breaking
point i think six to eight months from now where everyone's going to
either have to acknowledge that i was wrong or they were wrong if i'm wrong i will happily
be the first one to publicly apologize for it um and i'm just confident that time itself will tell.
That's all I could really say.
I'm confident time will tell and reveal everything.
So I just, my answer is just, I don't want to argue and debate with you if you're so angry about it.
Just wait.
There's some people who sympathized with infrared and with us who got super mad that I said this and they crashed out.
I'm like, look, okay, look, if you feel so strongly about this my answer is just wait time will tell
soda go ahead
hey has thanks for uh let me grab the mic here um you had a
well actually i got it i have uh two questions if that's okay one related to what
you just said are you I came
in halfway so I didn't get the full
take but are you
pro or anti-Delsi
in Venezuela
and sorry if that's like the wrong way to frame
it but curious about that.
I think either Delci or someone currently in power in the administration sold out Maduro and made a deal with the United States to sell out Maduro and capitulate.
And I think this was preferable to the United States over a war and an occupation.
I think that the U.S. basically said, we're going to demoralize the PSUV base by exploiting
traders within the leadership.
And by the way, I know there are corrupt traders high up.
That's a fact that they exist in PSUV, as they do in all nations.
And the U.S., you know, instead of fighting against them and doing regime change, they're like,
we're going to keep the
quote-unquote regime intact, we're just going to appoint
the traders in charge who through
policies are slowly but surely going to
conform Venezuela to
U.S. interests.
Got it, got it. Quick fall up there i read an article that kind of was more sympathetic um from a marxist
point of view that i think i saw that one it was a PSL guy right yep yep Marcel i think marcello
it was his name
or something like that.
I don't remember his name,
but I think I know what you're talking about.
Yeah, what's your take on that?
I think it's just a bunch of copium.
Hold on, one sec.
Dark energy, what's up?
I think that they're making analogies
and comparisons that are
not addressing the elephant in the room, which is that Venezuela
is no longer a sovereign state.
The notion that a state
has to make retreats, tactical retreats,
has to make concessions. You don't need to tell me this i know this okay uh i know
about the debates about brestlet vossk after the october revolution i'm aware about the tactical
retreats throughout the history of the revolutionary movements of the world i'm aware i'm not an idiot
they're trying to make comparisons to China, to Brestlet Vosk, to all sorts of examples of tactical retreats
in the history of the revolutionary movements.
But this is not a tactical retreat because tactical retreats can only be affected by sovereign
actors.
When your sitting president is kidnapped by a foreign power, your land is invaded, and an act
of war has been affected against you and you don't retaliate, you have
submitted to a foreign occupation. And at this point, you are a collaborationist regime. You're a
collaborationist administration who has been given administrative privileges. Yes, she has administrative privileges
to some extent. She is allowed to rule in some capacity in an administrative sense. But does
Delsey and the PSUB, do they have sovereign power in the last instance no they don't
they are delsey is acting at the behest of the US as an occupying power that's not a tactical retreat. It is a surrender of sovereignty. When
Deng Xiaoping gets kidnapped and is sitting in a New York jail, or when Xi Jinping is, God forbid,
and China does nothing and continue no worries back yeah i don't want to have a debate with these people about whether or not
what venezuela should or shouldn't have done i don't want to have that debate
i do recall nicholas maduro talking about how they're going to turn it into another
vietnam and how they're going to actually have into another Vietnam and how they're going to
actually have a tactical retreat into the jungles of Venezuela and wage a protracted guerrilla
which I have no reason to believe is impossible but yeah it would come at the cost of a
tremendous loss of life and destruction as all wars in history do the invasion of the ussr
30 million people died how many people died in vietnam how many people died in lebanon after israel's invasion
yeah wars are bloody are is there a time in place for war? That's the question. I think these people are basically saying, no, there's never a time in place for war. It's always best to just do what minimizes loss of life for humanitarian reasons and maximizes economic gain. And this is materialism, and this is pragmatism.
And you can have that position.
Just don't call it Marxism.
That's all I'll say.
Just don't call it Leninism.
I don't want to have a debate about what Venezuela should or should not have done.
I want to be clear about the fact that Venezuela is under occupation and has no sovereignty.
That's it.
In which case, yes, Delci is like the Vichy regime in France.
And I don't care if you think that's justifiable or if there's an excuse for it. Let's be honest about what the facts are. That's where I want to start with. I don't want to have a debate about what the best course of action should have been.
I want to be honest and clear about the fact that Venezuela has been conquered by the United States regime.
Objectively, it has. I'm sick of this humiliation. I'm not even Venezuela and I feel humiliated by it, but I'm sick of this humiliation. I'm not even Venezuela and I feel humiliated by it.
But I'm sick of these people coping
who are spinning this abject humiliation
as some kind of strategic patience.
That's it.
That's, uh, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,
really appreciate your, really appreciate your, your, your candor here on the subject.
Uh, my second and last question,
you wrote a tweet the other day that I am just like,
I've been chewing on for a good minute now.
This was very recent.
It was on,
you know,
kind of the reaction,
your reaction to why China and Russia and Iran aren't doing more in terms of like a formal like strategic
alliance and your your concern is that like you know each one is getting picked off and it's not worth like existing. It's not worth
them interacting as individual states, but rather as a block. So I was wondering if you could just
like unpack that a little bit more. And I guess what I'm saying is
let's say with respect to China
should they enter in like de-formal
like de facto military alliances
with like Russia and
Iran
you know counter to what's been successful
to them so far
I think absolutely yes and I'll make an argument counter to what's been successful for them so far?
I think absolutely yes.
And I'll make an argument for why.
So first of all, regarding why this hasn't happened,
I want to reiterate a more recent tweet I made,
which is that a lot of people presume that the quote-un states within china and russia and iran have some kind of
unified geopolitical global strategic perspective about the united states to whatever extent that exists
i don't know i haven't seen a ton of proof of that existing. I hope it does.
But what I do know is that these countries are massive bureaucracies. Their governments have
massive bureaucracies. They have international relations bureaucracies, foreign relations,
bureaucracies, foreign affairs,
departments, and so on
and so on. And they are operating
under a functional paradigm of
international relations and international law
that absolutely does
take
seriously as naive as that sounds the post-war international order and international law in the UN. Now, there are powers in these nations I mentioned, which are absolutely like not beholden to that. Putin is not. The CPC leadership
is not. And the Supreme Leader of Iran is not. But the foreign relations paradigm of these countries is very much on the surface, I think. Not because they're like,
you know, so goody two shoes, but because people don't understand that to organize a massive
government in a massive state, you have to have some kind of formalism and bureaucracy and redundancy.
So there is no current official institutionalization of, for example, Eurasianism, or even the multipolar theory or things like that in any of these countries. They see themselves,
formally speaking, as independent actors living in a kind of post-war Westphalian order of
international law and the right self-determination of nations and formally speaking they treat
the actions of the united states as mere misbehavior on the international stage with exceptions
to the regions that that are directly in geographic proximity to the actors themselves.
So Iran is not naive about the United States when it comes to the Middle East.
Russia is not naive about the United States when it comes to its kind of theater of war or strategic
you know
strategically significant
area which is
mostly Europe
to its
west
and Iran is sorry and China is absolutely not naive about the United States and the Indo-Pacific and in Taiwan.
But when it comes to U.S. actions outside of their kind of, the area that they care about, they're operating under an international law paradigm.
And I think that the reason this is irrational is because even in the interest of defending their own turf,
so China and the Indo-Pacific, the Taiwan province, China in Ukraine and Europe, and Iran in the Fertile Crescent region.
You could expand that in many directions, but roughly that's what it is.
The trajectory, the current course of the international system is confrontation, objectively, meaning the United States is not going to tolerate the status quo between China and Taiwan province indefinitely.
It's not sustainable indefinitely. Sooner or later, the United States is going to want to cut
Taiwan off from the mainland. The United States has proven that it is willing to make tactical retreats when it comes to overtly funding separatism in Tibet and in Xinjiang and in Taiwan and so on.
But these are tactical retreats.
Strategically, it's in the interest of the United States
Unipole to split China up in some kind of way
and to ensure the status quo within the Indo-Pacific,
specifically.
The same thing
is true in the Russia-Ukraine war.
The trajectory is
confrontation. Why? Because Russia
is unhappy already about the status
quo, specifically
with respect to the Baltic countries, the entrance of Finland
into NATO, which is a recent development. Obviously, the Ukraine war negotiations aren't really
going anywhere. And reaching a settlement in Ukraine, I think, is not going to happen.
There's an irreconcilable contrast of interest going on.
But even if it was, I think Russia is unhappy with the status quo in Europe and with NATO on its borders.
And I don't think it's going to end without some kind of confrontation.
And obviously, we're already seeing the confrontation happening now in the case of Iran in the Middle East.
So although China has been avoiding conflict up to this point, I think that China is not naive
about the fact it must know for certain that it doesn't accept right now
the status quo indefinitely eventually it's going to want
to operationally and strategically and
physically bring the Taiwan province into the
fold which the U.S. would find unacceptable.
So I think it would be beneficial for a new framework of international relations
and a new strategic orientation that is an explicit defensive military alliance.
And I think that a defensive military alliance would not be the most difficult thing in the world to affect for China, Russia, Iran, and other states that feel unjustly aggressed by the the unipole and the
US status quo
I think
that a
purely
defensive
alliance that
says
we're going
to uphold
some kind of
of
yes
framework
of international
law
international
relations
where we respect the right of sovereignty and self-determination,
and we're willing to defend and enforce that against a clear and present danger, which is U.S. imperialism, and its aggression.
I think that would have a deterrence factor.
I think that would put...
On the one hand, you say,
well, this is just China and Russia
extending their nuclear shield
over a bunch of shitty small countries
that don't deserve it.
And then I would say, on the other hand, well, it is in the
interest of Russia and China to build out as much as it can in international community, aligned with it,
because as powerful and big as these countries are
if they ever find themselves in a position of being
isolated rogue states
which is politically possible
China has
economically insulated itself from the possibility of being isolated from the world.
But economics and politics are not directly the same thing.
I have no doubt that the United States probably wouldn't want to destroy the status quo economically in the case of China,
as much as it wants to change the political status quo and hijack the economic system where China's at the center
and use that for its own purposes.
Whether it wants to dismantle it,
whether it wants to do something else with it,
it doesn't matter.
Political control is primary, right?
So,
I think it's in the interest of China and Russia to start being more proactive about the international system that they're living in and being more involved in actually upholding some kind of global security
architecture.
I think that the best
defense is an offense, put it shortly.
Why wait for the United States
to get what it wants and strategically outmaneuver you? And then one day you're going to be the Iran, right?
So that's really interesting you say that because it's, you know, from my perspective, it's almost like, is it, is it necessary to go that far to enter into like a formal
alliance, for the countries in question here to enter into a formal alliance when you see the U.S.
flailing on the world stage, right? It's exhausting itself
in the Middle East. It's already exhausted
itself. No, I agree, but
I feel like a defensive alliance basically
just says, if you continue
affecting this catastrophic
destabilizing destruction
on the world, we will retaliate so at this point
there's a deterrence factor i don't think the u.s would be able to respond i don't think the
us is going to is going to nuke the world or you know i don't think the U.S. is going to nuke the world or
you know, I don't
think it'll take that risk.
Right, right. Okay.
Okay. So then how is it,
like, how's that any different, like, what
you're proposing? How's that materially different
from like China and Russia's no limits partnership that they've agreed to within like the past two years?
Because these things are promising developments, but they're not a, it's not a comprehensive strategic reorientation that involves a change in their understanding of the international
system, which means they're kind of doing their own thing and just pretending like, you know, the maniac in the room is irrelevant.
And that's not true, you know.
So I think what are,
hold on,
your mic is,
your mic's cutting,
cutting out or,
yeah,
once of you can hear me.
I'll give me a second to respond.
I'll just ask that and then respond,
and then I'll respond.
Can you hear me right now?
Yeah,
I can hear you just fine.
Yeah. Can you hear me right now? Yeah, I can hear you just fine.
No, I was just saying, I think that it's not a comprehensive change of their overall international relations strategy?
You know, I agree with you in that respect.
And so I think the most interesting or compelling part of your argument is, you know, the conception of how they exist or how they conduct international relations in the liberal in the in the in the in the in the conception of them right as like you know into individual units that don't really have any um that
right right and and honestly like what i'm advocating for is have any that at least on the surface don't have any
and honestly like what I'm advocating
for isn't a
you know
a merger of sovereignty
I'm just advocating for an
strategic realism
about what is the actual architecture and shape of international relations versus what it's supposed to be formally.
Formally, it's supposed to be this Westphalian order, or even worse, but the BRICS advocates are claiming,
oh, it's supposed to be a multipolar world
order, right? Well, you can
wish and want it to be whatever you want. There's only
one country on earth that has the
unilateral ability to bomb anyone
and attack any nation on earth
with impunity
right? Yep.
And there should be a reflection
and honesty about the actual shape
of international relations
institutionally.
I agree
with that because, you know, I agree with that because, you know, I think the part that you, and I, and the basis of my agreement is related to when you, when you were talking about economics versus politics, right? And I feel that given the high degree
of interconnectedness
of global trade,
you kind of need an update
to, you know,
the international relations
that surrounds it,
that's, you know,
that it's supporting structure and foundation, right?
And so, you know, in some ways, yeah, I think you're totally right that it's outdated.
I guess my question here on this particular point is either China, Russia, or Iran, and any other individual countries, like, ready to step up and bear that responsibility, right?
I actually think that I put a lot of weight in the reality of soft power.
I think where they're all lacking is in the realm
of consciousness. I think that the U.S. has them outpaced there. And I think that they need to
develop some kind of new outlook popular among the newer generations, which can then feed up and have an effect of
soft power influence at the highest level of the institutions where they have an under,
I feel like we're still living in a globalist, American globalist
kind of cosmopolitan soft power, uh, uh, world, right?
Absolutely, absolutely.
Yeah, and I think that there needs to be a change in that first.
One that maintains the dynamism and neutrality of globalism and globalization,
but simultaneously acknowledges, which is what
the multipolar theory
was supposed to be
but
it really
never became that
the advantage
of the advantage of globalism
is this kind of pretence
to there's a neutrality it's not a specific ideology it's
just an acknowledgement of our global interconnectedness and the unlimited interactivity and
and connections between humanity and so on that needs to evolve into something more concrete, whether it's Eurasianism, whether it's a new narrative that comprehends these interconnected shared heritages that China, Russia, and Iran have, or, frankly, you know, something that goes more in the direction of what the Soviets had, right? Which is a theory of imperialism and the need to fight imperialism. Whatever it so happens to be, it has to preserve the dynamism and, how should I put it, this kind of pre-ideological neutrality of globalism, but also give it a specific
shape that
that is realistic.
I think the term that you're looking for
is like offbung, right?
Yeah, both to abolish.
Yeah, there needs to be a sublation of globalism.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I hear you.
And, you know, honestly, it's like, if you, I don't know if you listen to Marco Rubio's speech at Davos, but he made a very, he made the argument that you're talking about, but, you know, for, for like the West, you know, to the U.S. and Europe, right? And basically what you're arguing for is like, you need that, you know, the, like on the soft power level, but then, like, coordination on the hard power level. Absolutely.
Soft power, these nations don't have a common narrative.
One is kind of taking shape.
And the ones that have been trying to take shape are, it's kind of like this bricks slop and it's failed, right?
But that's the Goldman Sachs term.
Right, right, right.
Yeah, I know, I know.
So I feel like the area of most importance, and I might be biased because I'm a fucking live streamer,
but to me, I would say the area
of most importance right now is in the soft
power realm.
I have to
give you kudos on that because it's like a
very wang hooning approach
to like global
relations and I would say like Marxxism you know it's a very what would
you say wang hooning oh wanghue yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah he's like he he privileges the software
right more than the hardware.
And I feel like you're doing these same things.
I think it's a very astute observation of you.
Well, yeah, I mean, we'll probably have to wrap it up there, but it's a good talk.
Hey, appreciate you.
And then the last person is going to be Lewis. Lewis, appreciate you. And then the last person
is going to be Lewis.
Lewis, go ahead.
It was just on the,
you can hear me, yeah?
Yeah.
Okay.
It was just on this, the whole
position on the globalism
and um, uh, multipolar, the whole position on the globalism and
um
a multipolar system
I don't think that any of that's going to work
in the long run I think it's all going to just
collapse in on itself
uh well what does a collapse look like
well
it's not it's not some sort of
mad max kind of thing that some people
like to think about or like
something off a blacker zombie film
the reality is
It's not that
The reality behind globalism
Is the
Um
The kind of infinite
Interconnectivity of the world
And of the globe
That's a reality When it comes to information And the transport and the world and of the globe that's a reality when it comes to information and the transport and flow of goods
physically and i think that even in a situation of global institutional collapse um the ability for the technology
even if it's like if it has to be
recreated in some way
for this interconnectedness
to exist at the information level
and therefore I don't want to speculate too much when you think about information level. And therefore,
I don't want to speculate too much
when you think about it,
the flow of information
and the flow of goods
start to converge
with the rise of things
like 3D printing and shit, right?
So if you play a video game
called Death Stranding,
you're looking at a world that's totally collapsed after an apocalypse, but which is simultaneously maintained this kind of like decentralized, nodal system of connectivity, where people are 3D printing weapons and objects and things.
And yes, I mean, you still need to transport resources and goods from one area to the next physically.
Yes, there's conflict. Yes, there's violence.
But the kind of thing we associate with globalism, which is just interconnectivity and this kind of transcendence of space is there. And if we take that a little bit less science fiction speculation, I think that even in circumstances of global collapse, we're going to have something similar.
Well, I don't mean global collapse in that kind of sense.
What I'm actually referring to is this is more of a genuine major issue in places like
Europe. Definitely here
in Britain is due to certain
policies that the government has engaged
in based around certain
positions through with globalism which to be fair
most of it when you read
into it is actually
essentially just
money laundering
or some form
of fraud
or it's basically
just people lining
their own pocket
all the green
energy stuff
basically the country
is on the verge
of having
consistent blackouts
the energy grid is basically just
shagged. There is no, and there's no
means of expanding
world grid, etc.
To add to that, I think that we're looking at an
arms race right now in Ukraine of weaponizing the disabling and shutting down of energy grids because of the rise of drone warfare and stuff, right?
So I think that the instability of energy grids
and uh the the most visceral foundation of modern civilization is going to be tested but i would say
the the sword cuts both ways i think that what you're seeing in europe
which is the unreliability of like more centralized um outdated infrastructure of energy grids
and whatever.
I think that's simultaneously probably going to correspond to kind of civilization and culture,
giving rise to more decentralized and local solutions for the generation of energy and
electricity.
Well, it's funny that
though, that essentially the
energy issue in Europe
is dire to the extent
that it's not going to be extent that it's not
going to be like,
it's not going to go,
oh,
we're going to start
using steam again.
Like we've,
we've not got,
I don't think that.
No,
tree on the charcoal or we can dig coal out of the ground.
But even that's,
here's,
here's,
here's,
my crazy speculation is that as energy infrastructure continues to fail,
which is already outdated,
more avant-garde experimental
technologies, which
try to decentralize these grids
to the point where like,
you know,
you have your own generator,
you have,
these seem far-fetched and shit,
but it's like,
it's actually a thing,
you know?
Um,
how do you create your own energy grid
from scratch,
right?
That type of thing.
And I think the best
means that I've understood this
is, especially across Europe,
is we'd have to return to using water wheels,
but we wouldn't be using any electricity.
That's the severity.
I think that well look
fossil fuels can still be
a source of energy
if you have
an independent generator
and stuff.
No,
but what my emphasis says
is that the entire continent is just so heavily depleted.
The investment that's needed to get access to certain oil reserves isn't there.
Yeah, but then, but there's a compounding issue.
I agree.
There's, there's going to be creative
solutions that are needed,
solar panels,
whatever you want to call it.
But,
well,
the solar panel thing
doesn't work either
because he uses oil.
You need fossil fuels
to get all of the materials
for those like panels and the wind farms
and i think that europe's ability to tap into energy or fossil fuels and sources of energy
within europe is going to maybe become harder, but the rest of the world
probably isn't going to lose...
I wouldn't even rule out the rest of the world either, because
2006 was the peak
oil, just conventional oil
production. Obviously the production
has consistently been going up year
after year after year, but it was like the peak
amount of
production output
with providing like a large
surplus basically
and then essentially
that started that peaked up and then started
declining and then you had the 2008
financial crisis you had zero interest
rates
to try and obviously believe it at the problem
I don't know how it would be.
I'm just trying to. Yeah. I don't know what it would look like.
I don't know how it would be, but looking at the long-term trends of history and
based on what would make sense to me, I think that people are going to start getting creative
at that point and find ways to decentralize the uh the flow of energy so to speak and that that is
that is itself going to be an apocalyptic moment, by the way, because it's going to...
I agree with the position that it would become decentralized,
but it means that the conception of world order is gone.
It's going to fundamentally change.
Absolutely.
I wouldn't even say change. I just mean he's gone. Fundamentally change. Absolutely. Basically.
Well,
I wouldn't even say change.
I just mean he's gone because you can't maintain a national state without having a central,
centralized energy grid.
And in Europe again.
That's very true.
Even in America,
you can't have an energy grid.
Well, look, look, Lewis,
Lewis, to be fair,
to be fair,
you're absolutely right.
But it's a very intelligent observation
you're making, by the way.
I like this idea that
thus far, nations are basically based on centralized energy grids. It's a good way of thinking. But to be fair, I would say that historically, the foundations of what make a state substantively have never been the same.
So it never always
was a central
energy grid.
There's all sorts of different examples
of how the infrastructure
common to states
comes to be and becomes decisive. There's a tendency
of throughout history of this kind of process or dialectic, if you will, of decentralization
and centralization. One of the things that made Europe unique in the rise of European feudalism was that Europe didn't rely on the centralization of irrigation systems, but it did absorb and take from Asiatic societies the hydraulic technologies to use and make use of water energetically.
And it was able to kind of decentralize that with the windmill and so on technology.
Waterworks and so on.
But I think there's always room for maybe we have to rediscover it or maybe it's something I just haven't had time to think about right now at this moment, but I think that we will always have this kind of national or central framework of a common order through infrastructure materially but it will just it'll be something different it'll change something that probably strikes us as obvious now but sorry, we'll strike us as obvious in the future
but now maybe it's hard to think about
what it is.
I, you know what, I was, I've been thinking about the same shit
you've been thinking about because
I was just in Russia and I was
thinking about the war in Ukraine and the drone warfare.
And I'm like, you know, the next step is going to be that energy grids are going to be decentralized.
There's going to be these new ways to disable them or turn them on and vice versa,
which is going to make them far more dynamic and mobile and impervious from attacks.
Or like, it's going to make the drone warfare more impervious
from just like one shot destruction
disabling the energy grid
and this is going to have like profound consequences
and if what you're saying is already happening in Europe
then it just kind of adds to this
well I mean it's mainly an issue of,
so this is the reason why
I mentioned the oil crisis that happened
in 06 and then caused
it was one of the things that caused
the financial crisis in 08.
Because after that, you then had the
you had a couple
of other financial crises but
what was interesting is that shale oil
became very
profitable
after 2008 but that's because
of the interest rates being basically zero
and you could basically just dump a shitload of money
into it, right?
So shale oil became really big, right?
But shale oil peaked in like 2016, I think.
Right? So really quick, it's already peaked out.
So that was shale oil, and now we're doing LNG.
And LNG is pretty much already tapping out as well.
I have one last question or comment, and then we got to we got to go because I'm running late already.
But what do you think about the fusion energy technology that China is trying to develop?
Do you think that's...
Fusion is a...
Fusion is a difficult one because it's not the same as
obviously it's not the same as fission you're not smashing two atoms together
and then basically making the compressing the
atoms down using various amounts of different techniques
to create the energy and then you harness it via
via boiling water
to make steam to turn a turbine.
Essentially fusion is trying to
not do that.
It's like an artificial sun, you know?
Yeah, yeah, basically,
but it's using. Yeah, yeah, basically, but it's using
extremely,
the precision needs to be bang
on. It probably could work.
The issue is trying to keep it
stable enough to maintain
the flow energy. Yeah, yeah, that's why they
haven't. The idea is to start, well, is to start it,
and then it uses the majority of the energy to maintain its stability,
and then you only, and then you just harness off, like,
maybe 20% if you're lucky of the excess
surplus but then the funny thing is
is that you're basically just using that to again boil
fucking water. Yep for turbines
to turn big wheels. Yeah. Yeah,
basically that's that we haven't.
We haven't.
That's so true.
I was thinking about that a lot as well.
We have,
we have not gone past the big wheels.
We just haven't.
Big wheels and, yeah, water and steam, yeah.
Right.
And he's kind of, actually, you mentioned that because there's a guy in, yeah, water and steam, yeah. Right. He's kind of, actually, you mentioned that
because there's a guy in Britain
that's been trying to come up with energy.
Oh, God.
I mean, I suppose you could call it decentralized.
He goes, he's on Twitter.
He goes by the name Alex Masters.
He's the right winger,
but I don't, well, I am as well,
but that's not, I'm not all that bothered about
the political left, right, but I'm not
interesting that anymore.
He works as a
he works part of a steam
engine group.
He's very big in Britain steam engines
and stuff like that. But apparently the steam
engines now are actually nearly
if not more efficient than diesel locomotives based on a number of tests and experiments that have been happening.
Yeah, yeah.
So they're actually more, and it's very interesting now because you can start to use biofuel as well
instead of using like coal and you can even use bio oil
so you can convert it into where you can basically use a chemistry system to convert
it into oils
to pour into the
effectively the furnace to then
create the steam to move the engine.
So...
It's very interesting, you know.
Okay, so yeah
it goes by the name Alex
on prayer yeah interesting
thoughts honestly interesting thoughts
all right man
see you later thank you
bye bye bye
all right guys I gotta wrap up the space.
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All right.
Yeah, guys, this is why I... I told you I like British people, and that's why, because they're just, whether it's like this or it's Paul Cockshot or whatever, it's just like British people or just a lot of the time, they're just thinking in the right way, to be honest.
They just think about things in such a interesting way.
All right, guys.
I'm going to be off.
Bye-bye.
See you guys.
See you guys Sunday.
Bye-bye.