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we will now

introduce our contestants

one

by

one

first we will introduce

going from left to right

the one

they call

and of war

[ __ ] why do i have to be first oh

okay hi

i'm anna voir

uh i'm in

my master's program for clinical

psychology and i like politics

and do you believe you will defeat each

and every person here and leave them

metaphorically in a video game blood

splattered against the wall

completely defeated

no probably

not charmo

my khan thank you so much

first off it's a hype train let's get it

rolling you got primes drop them you got

money drop them give them to your and

give them to your house everybody hold

on everyone declare your political views

also anovar go

i'm a lef i'm lefty left

yeah

charm hole

i'm an anarchic gamer

chris bt

hi everyone uh my name is christopher

hilally i was the first communist on the

ballot to run

in any election since the 1990s i

garnered one percent of the vote for

congress uh as a marxist leninist

um and uh made history with that i'm a

marxist lioness proud communist happy to

be here with you all

thank you so much anonymous appreciate

the 20 thank you so much

moving on

dario

hello everyone i'm dario and i guess for

the purposes

looking at the cast of this panel i

guess uh i might be more centristy um

and hopefully uh we can have some

interesting discussions and not just

yelling matches but uh i i'm not keeping

my hopes up

eris anne

hi i'm eris and i'm a satellite control

operations engineer and i'm

probably

left

boring

next i am the khan

one of the three cons or four cons we

will be judging

i need no introduction

henry is another judge

many of you already know who he is

but for those who do not

i'm henry and i'm going to be deciding

who's the kings here and who's the

losers

i expect

the utmost the highest and the most

refined of blood sports tonight

make me

proud jackson hinkle

johnny cage

what's up everybody how's it going

i'm i'm here to take dubs and dubs only

and i am a communist

pesto mime the weirdest man in the

infrared community by far

hello

speak

we are experiencing technical

difficulties

what

does does pesto mime have a mic

speak

we cannot hear a [ __ ] thing you are

saying

i i this is unprecedented

he's gone

is it now yes we can hear you now

oh man i plugged in this this uh

blue yeti microphone but i didn't pay

for it so that's what i get uh let's cam

up

i'm trying

is it okay introduce thyself

my name is bay area no stop you can't do

that

my name is pesto mai

and uh my politics are

uh the lyndon larouche collected works

great

another infrared showrunner behind the

scenes he will also be judging today you

probably you many of you have met him

for those who have not

your mike's not working

i'm luca i'm looking forward to seeing

which of you are worthy of joining our

horde because our horde is unstoppable

cannot be stopped so let's see which one

is wins of you are worthy of joining our

train and marching to victory let's go

let's see it

yankee tanky

i am uh part of the center for political

innovation and the john brown volunteers

i am a 21st century socialist and i

believe i'm going to wreck each and

every one of you

yes

yo um i'm yas also known as yeah right

uh my politics are basically hood

socialist

interesting

and last

but not least

the most feared man in the entire

levant region

he has debated and defeated countless

streamers including sansa

who to this day cannot recover from the

hell they were given

although

coming from

tel aviv israel

sultan

of course what you just said was not

true but i need no introduction i have

won countless times and i intend on

winning this time

the only thing that might stop me is the

electricity but even then i will still

represent rtsv in a good light

everyone knows my worth

okay

every now that everyone has introduced

themselves

let us not spare any time in going right

into the topics

now

this came unexpectedly

and we did not know this was going to

happen

but

the court's verdict has just been

released and has come out

and as it happens

isle written house has been found

not

guilty

the question is

how

should the american people feel about

this

how should they respond

and regardless of the court's decision

should the american people find written

house guilty or not guilty

take it away

i mean look i'll be honest

i uh

i think everybody knew he was gonna walk

right everybody like this is what the us

does this is how it works right like the

guy went gamer mode irl and he walked

away and he walked free

it's not a surprise me personally i

think if you uh live by the state you

die by the state

i think they should have saw the death

penalty they didn't

because of course he was going to walk

because the entire system is made to

make little kyles like this will go

around and apparently wisconsin's okay

with

not having a death penalty but they're

apparently pro mass shooting now is very

strange to me i i don't get it but i

guess it is liberty over

the state i i don't know but uh [ __ ]

kyle [ __ ] anybody who's pro kyle

uh because it's just gonna happen again

it's gonna happen more often

yeah i i don't i don't really think

that's uh that's a good description of

what happened at the events but that's

not really surprising um obviously he

was gonna walk everybody here if you

think anything else you're a delusional

um

obviously what he did and what happened

there was tragic but that doesn't change

the fact that given the circumstances he

acted in self-defense and it was obvious

to anybody who followed the trial or

even watched the videos and i think

putting blame on kyle as an individual

or saying oh yeah he should have had the

death penalty or he shouldn't have he

should have been convicted gone to

prison

experienced bad things in prison i think

you're delusional and you probably need

to go outside and talk to more normal

people

i think i think he should have been put

behind bars because he was a 4chan user

and i i don't really like them that's my

personal opinion

wow

hey like him or not regardless of what

you think of him regardless of whether

you you know think it was smart of him

to show up with a gun or even be there

in the first place it was his right to

do so right regardless of whether you

like it or not uh the jury who was

exposed to all the information

surrounding the case which you weren't

uh ruled that it was in self-defense so

if you don't have an argument other than

you just don't like him i don't see why

you know you should be able to say even

that you think you should be behind bars

it's [ __ ] it's [ __ ] insane are you

kidding me

okay so what's insane in life

that's a subjective opinion you're not

you're not actually you know giving any

sort of substantive evidence as to why

you should be behind bars

okay so like

we're trying to say

now then unequivocally like if if you

are pro kyle right in this instance

you're saying wait

any moment you've got a gun you're upset

hold on somebody else shut up

luca can you rotate your camera

sideways

no turn it sideways

perfect

continue

oh yes thank you khan

my apologies for talking over you uh

no how could how could any i really

don't understand it i really don't get

how people are pro kyle here like the

guy is a broker kyle wait what does that

mean

yeah it's okay to be like oh yeah no i'm

glad he walked right if you're if you're

like i'm glad he got away he literally

got away with that with mercy

well he literally didn't get away with

murder the trial was very clear he was

credited of all the uh all the murder

charges all the homicide charges it was

like he was defending himself in this

situation now you can say hey the

situation was [ __ ] up the situation

should never happened he shouldn't have

been there there shouldn't have been

like the the riots and all these things

but like given the situation and given

the the verdict of the jury the judge is

like every reasonable person who watched

the trial it was very clear like this

was always going to happen it wasn't a

murder it was a [ __ ]

gun okay

there's something here everybody

misunderstands and it's the it's a

phrase called passive violence okay now

i want you to understand what passive

violence is if you're in public

with an assault rifle and you can

somebody sees you they are passively

being violent towards you okay

you you understand this this passive

violence

right so our people are in the military

uh passively aggressive towards each

other by that logic yes especially yes

that's that's just that they just don't

go to prison

people go outside

what is this

the verdict taught us is that now that

conservatives are doing uh bringing guns

to protest like leftists should be

pulling up with like grenade launchers

to like

pro board

hey hey we don't know

bring that back

remember the game do not violate gos we

should we should uh we should just be

able

to

just act upon the way our that we want

to

no i what i'm saying

okay

first of all the basis of the question

that has asked was how should the

american public respond right do you

agree with the jury do you are you going

to respect the will of the jury in the

legal system or not well we have we we

have to the rules we have to respect the

league but how should you feel how

should you what should you say about it

how should the american people

officially be protesting this decision

yes et cetera

yeah america's the constitution's a

living document like the justice system

it's not like

gravity right it's not like light like

we can make it what we want to make it

and it's pretty clear that a lot of

americans are pro kyle here like they're

pro what about showing up at a protest

with an assault rifle and if someone's

around anybody

like who are you talking to dude like

you just want to create

like are you just trying to agree not to

know this is your actual opinion oh yeah

sorry for trying to create content no

i'm just asking

because i don't wanna i don't wanna

argue against a straw man like i don't

wanna argue against this drama is this

your actual opinion are you just like

trying to quit

yes no absolutely

now and this is at the heart of gun

culture in america this is that of the

[ __ ] heart the [ __ ] heart

is

why would i want to go somewhere where

lead is

at a velocity that will kill me it's

mostly fun it's literally fun

yeah of course it

is fun

driving at 200 miles per hour is also

fun but should you do it uh probably you

should because you only learn

one or you're at a like test course or

something yeah hold on we have a hold on

we have a surprise guest holy [ __ ] he

came out of nowhere the critically

thinking veteran

one of the few

conservative and right-wing perspective

critically thinking veteran

would you like to introduce yourself

hello

yeah how you doing hoss

how are you

doing fine man doing fine getting my uh

obs changed around here so i can turn

the camera on you all you find folks can

see my handsome face

all right

now we've got a curveball at the cast

we're like

fringe thinking veteran

is that like the best [ __ ] is that like

literally the best you got you sat there

and thought for like 10 seconds and that

was the best you came up with

that's at level one there's ten levels

introduce yourself to the cast

i am critically thinking veteran the

conservative main boss here in twitch

politics i enjoy having

you know casual conversations with

everybody if you're willing to have a

kyle's role conversation but what i have

found in my experience here in twitch

politics over the last years and every

time you end up on a panel especially

the one that i find myself walking into

it ends up turning into a [ __ ] show so

right i've that's the only thing that i

can assume that we're about to see but

you will see my energy kind of lead the

room so if everybody stays calm i'll

probably stay calm but as soon as

somebody starts getting a little excited

oh my god that just either changed the

[ __ ] out of me and i want to be a part

of it so let's [ __ ] go all right all

right

topic the topic that we started out with

is around the events of the recent court

ruling

uh finding kyle rittenhouse not guilty

the question is

how should the american people find kyle

rittenhouse after the court ruling

should they find him guilty or not

guilty

wait you think that the court of public

opinion matters in this one

do not debate the hosts

debate amongst themselves right does

anybody else think that the court of

public opinion actually matters whenever

the verdict comes back from the jury

that he was not guilty does anybody else

think that matters i don't think it

matters

it doesn't matter

when you all talk at the same time it

makes a beautiful beautiful sound it

sounds like this

boom look it sounds to me like we've got

a mess like oh court of public opinion

like what does this mean of course i'm

mad like of course like

wisconsin basically just legalized mass

shootings right like they're just like

saying like yeah

if you go out with an [ __ ] rifle

somebody can [ __ ] around and then they

get to find out and then you get to walk

free you get to murder for free and if

you're a kid even better because then

the judge will be like oh you poor

little baby boy oh you you watch too

much batman i know i know you shouldn't

be like a true person who didn't watch a

single second of the entire trial due to

no if you want to talk no if you want to

talk about everybody talking over like

you can't understand know what you're

saying then you're talking about the

prosecution because that they dropped

the ball like crazy like if you

have done wait what would you have done

differently acted more like the derrick

chauvin prosecution like holy sh

[ __ ] like he [ __ ] is

wait wait can you give one example or

that they should have done differently

like one specific thing yeah honestly i

don't know if he could have because it

sounds like his balls were in a vice

grip by that judge so who knows if he

did try to go harder at the kid maybe

the judge

what is one piece of evidence that would

have changed their minds

one piece of evidence that

that would have changed the jury's minds

or like change the job that's nothing

like the kind of people who go to jury

like the american justices you would

have done anything different is what

you're saying

why do you have a bowl cut

are you asking me

yeah oh i don't actually have a bowl cut

all it is is uh

in the the last year i've been here

since you asked right the last year i've

been here on twitter

i got a

why what's the hold up now here's the

here's the answer to the question right

so this last year i find myself going on

a personal journey of healing from ptsd

from my past and letting go like of a

lot of [ __ ] and one of those was me

keeping my hair real [ __ ] short so my

hair is long because i just don't give a

[ __ ] anymore how's that well

what is the point of your question what

does that have to do with the topic

sultan what is the point of your

question

no i'm just pointing it out i was

contemplating the nice

faces that i have in front of me

yeah no one cares so you're pretty primo

so far i've asked the question because

you've said that you disagree with the

outcome

um and you know you want to protest

potentially whether you know like in on

a stream or wherever against the outcome

of the of the trial

we've heard a lot from you you haven't

given like any actual answer other than

like an emotional response as to why you

disagree with the outcome so anyone else

want to chime in on whether or not uh

they disagree or agree with the accept

your submission thank you

there's there's one thing that i think

is insanely cringe it's [ __ ]

politicians [ __ ] did anybody see bill

de blasio go on twitter and be like

this is a miscarriage of justice

i live in new york city bro my life

every day is painful waking up to

[ __ ] bill de blasio he banned [ __ ]

vapes i see you vape right now i can't

vape because [ __ ] band vapes bro

it's terrible

sounds like you need to fix your [ __ ]

government i don't know what to tell you

no you can't bro you can't vote that

change out they're all going to suck ass

you got de blasio

[ __ ] new york oh new york new york

city my [ __ ] massive i wasn't

that is new york city yeah we're so

so sorry you guys can't contribute to

more smokes

i'm so confused i don't know how we go

from like charmo having the worst

[ __ ] take that i think i've ever

[ __ ] heard to him saying something

that i agree with i'm so [ __ ]

confused right now because like new york

really is kind of like i said the

gladiators in the arena aren't supposed

to stop and start sucking each other off

it's a bloody battle to the death

continue

yeah

so sit there and spectate emperor how's

that

[Laughter]

so look the written house thing

charm hall i don't even know how you can

sit there and say the dumb [ __ ] that you

said a minute ago i'm a gamer that's

happening yeah but it's but it's all the

time

i play games

you don't want to go today on topic we

are focusing on the verdict

i mean what else is there to say

everybody disagrees with me and i'm

right so [ __ ] all y'all you know what

that word

there's no evidence to support anything

that you're saying which makes it a

complete fallacy and you're living in a

[ __ ] fantasy world

because that's charcoal right like what

are you going to do and found that the

state propaganda was based and one

filled yeah

wow if you were an actual gamer you

would stand in solidarity with kyle did

you see on the stand he was criticized

he was attacked for playing call of duty

bro listen you're a fake gamer you're a

fake gamer you don't stand behind kyle

and his ridiculous attacks on him

there's two different types of gamers

shut the [ __ ] up and stay on topic

don't make me mewtwo charm hold shut up

about video games

i don't even know what you mean by that

we're focusing on the verdict finding

kyle reynolds not guilty

and of war you have been suspiciously

quiet what is your

view

um i guess i have kind of a nuanced view

on it i think that

kyle's actions were incredibly reckless

and um he was definitely looking for

trouble

um he i don't really buy into the whole

like he was just trying to defend

property i mean i'm sorry but like if

you go to a protest with an ar i mean

that does kind of seem threatening and

it does seem to be provoking and like

antagonistic but also at the same time i

mean

he did technically defend himself

so i don't know i don't i don't like him

riders also had guns right i mean

everybody was [ __ ] armed to the teeth

it seems

people shot at kyle

yeah wouldn't you say anna though that

if he was ruled as acting in

self-defense that uh regardless of

whether you're not whether you think it

was a smart idea for him to come to the

protest with a gun regardless of whether

you think that's what provoked the

initial guy to run after him that that

gun allowed him to act in self-defense

and potentially save his life

i mean yeah i think it was a bit of an

overkill though since i mean the one guy

was like just had like a skateboard or

something um but i mean yeah ultimately

he did act in self-defense legally

wait

if somebody comes at you attacks you

with a skateboard like that can knock

you out right i mean like i don't think

that can kill you and then yeah

second location oh no yeah all right and

okay and what if people are coming after

you with [ __ ] like threatening to

knock your passive threat like i said

earlier a passive threat you are a

passive piece of violence because you

have the ability to magically push it

did your argument was just if you have a

gun outside your passive threat then you

should go to prison like that's that's

absolutely without it

he's a passive threat yes

yeah but you're living in fantasyland

that's nothing to do with america or

this case like these are just not the

facts on the ground yeah okay my reality

is

argument about how you want all guns

taken off the streets at that point

you're not arguing the point

i'll say this right

or something what charm hall's trying to

say right is is at its core factually

true right if you are armed and you're

showing that you're armed right it is a

passive threat but the fact of the

matter is is that charm hole is so

sensitive that as soon as he sees

somebody with a weapon he automatically

has a reaction and becomes triggered so

that's right there's a personal issue go

get yourself a [ __ ] tissue because

nobody gives a [ __ ] oh well

that's a lot of hot pot coming from

somebody with ptsd probably from active

warfare right oh no i killed some brown

people

you're being a passive threat to this

stream i'm going to need you to shut up

yeah right

how long have you been on reddit

good one anyway when somebody in my

public in my line of sight if i can see

something with the trigger reign it in

charm hole

it's it's his legal right though to have

that gun

people to have the legal right to have a

gun

it doesn't even matter if it's his legal

right to have the gun right we can even

say well morally even like even morally

he should be able to defend himself in a

situation like that right i mean he

isn't doing anything wrong by just like

being with his gun at a protest

necessarily like depending on the

situation and the country everything

he's in right so morally like you should

be able to defend yourself and the only

reason why he could defend himself in

that situation is because he had a gun

but if he didn't have a gun in that

situation he would probably be

maybe that at this point like who knows

or he'd have been attacked in the first

place

i got it i gotta say i ran for congress

i don't know i ran for congress as a

communist and i was very pro second

amendment a member of the nra um i

posted you know i was the only one rated

a plus by gun rights of vermont along

with the republican candidate everybody

else every other candidate was like a

fail um i gotta say that um i think that

absolutely it's everybody's right uh to

bear arms i think that some people live

in states behind enemy lines in vermont

this gun culture is is very common i see

guns everywhere and nobody feels

threatened it's normal no that's because

there's no looting there's no rioting

everybody you know i live in farm

country i got a big farm here everybody

has guns it's hunting season everybody

respects each other i think that what he

did was reckless adventurist a

provocation but i think that

ultimately i think in that situation i

mean look there was a lot of violence on

those streets um you know was it

self-defense yeah it did the jury found

it to be self-defense bigger problem is

is this all part of a big game at like a

new gladio a gladio inside you know is

this is this uh is this our years of

lead this is what i've been saying since

the january 6th and last year i think

that that's what that's the the crux

that's the deeper thing is that is the

is the is the deep state really

fomenting this stuff so we all end up

killing each other hey the gun industry

is making a [ __ ] fortune and all of

us are killing each other

actually no i agree

yeah of course fermenting far right and

far left to kill each other while

everybody else is sitting back and

relaxing

as a person only got one percent of the

vote i don't think your opinion matters

chris you make an excellent point right

that right there is what brings us to

the climate of what led up to the events

in kenosha right we've got

riots and protests and the burning of

federal buildings and and businesses and

everything happening in places like

portland and seattle and other parts of

the country this all it ends up playing

as a part of the climate right of what

the government is allowing to happen

right and what people's perception of

what law enforcement might do in order

to protect their business because why

else do we bother having police if not

to protect the people and property right

not necessarily property but like to

stop looting and burning and et cetera

et cetera you don't want that so the

fact of the matter is is that you you

end up with a

event where you have multiple people not

just kyle written house that are armed

right you have multiple people that were

lighting trash cans on fire and causing

the types of things that they had seen

in other parts of the country so why

would anyone rationally thinking looking

at the situation not think that the same

thing that happened there could in fact

be happening here and if you care about

your community you wanted to [ __ ]

defend that [ __ ] because it takes time

it takes effort it takes money it takes

all these resources in order to build up

a [ __ ] community and for some

[ __ ] to come in and start burning

and looting it because they got a

[ __ ] issue that they need a tissue

for well that's their [ __ ] problem

ain't it

yeah okay so you think because it's

their problem now it becomes my problem

because they didn't go bother getting

the [ __ ] tissue yeah of course the

veteran is more pro-land than pro-people

i can't believe that wow hot take yeah

no of course and also i just want to

remind everybody that there's a

dangerous streamer who defended written

house and he's still not re-partnered he

got unpartnered and he's still not

re-partnered keep it on topic

because he likes dual streaming now okay

see that's off topic yell at her

charmhole

yes you have to understand who's in

charge here do you understand

you are skirting the line

challenge i gotta feature that i got i

gotta i gotta say

is there anybody who kind of but like

agrees with me like anybody i know i

don't

i just listen

i want to hear more i want to hear more

from chris because listen of all the

takes i've heard in this case kylie

ridden house is a cia planned by the

deep state to make sure that the

communist party doesn't gain power in

the u.s it's like

it's the best thing i've heard all night

it's not my opinion that kyle is is that

it's my opinion that the climate of last

year into this year is like that it's my

it's my opinion that that there's deeper

things behind the climate and the

political polarization it's not russia

it's not china it's here

oh it's the cia dude kyle is a cia plant

no i don't think he's a cia plant but i

definitely think that the events that

are going on are very suspicious i think

january 6 is suspicious i think all this

[ __ ] is suspicious half the people there

were military and [ __ ] police

what the [ __ ] is going on

yeah this is america

you gotta ask yourself what the hell is

going on

at least we'll use anything american our

military and police dude

our military and police will use

whatever excuse they can to have

overtime and if that means some few

antifa people are lighting dumpsters on

fire you got them right they're going to

clock the [ __ ] in and start making 30 40

bucks an hour just uh and maybe

kill some antifa like rittenhouse did

for free

and people love him for it cool wait a

minute there's never been any

implications frozen bomb or any of the

other two were actually antifa yeah

oh yeah well good point

sorry i'm wrong

you're right

you're right no they weren't antifa he

just killed civilians cool

yeah civilians they were attacking him

like what the [ __ ] is your favorite oh

it's a civilian

like i was just in a [ __ ] i had to

defend myself in a street fight i got

pulled off my bike the other week by

your guy's definition i would have been

okay to blow their [ __ ] head off hey

raining in charming reigning

no you we don't we don't get so visceral

here and don't don't we don't we can't

say that [ __ ] okay well

then

i'm sorry

i i would be afraid but okay but like

you see what you're doing you're telling

that i'm the one

yeah

you're having trouble coming up with

simple words like defend yourself

i just don't get how i'm the one saying

what he did was bad but i'm also

because you're describing violent acts

dude come on

charmo shut the [ __ ] up and don't talk

about violence like i told you in the

[ __ ] beginning just use words like

defend yourself etc etc

you're right i am i am visceral you're

right i apologize again uh

when i did when i'm defending myself

should i

shoot

them can i say that

no

okay

well

i mean i i don't know how to [ __ ]

use the kylo ren house defense when i

can't talk about what the [ __ ] he did i

don't know how i like this

right because we are all we are all law

abiding citizens we are not making

scenarios of people being shot lethal

force none of that we are focusing on

the outcome of a verdict

in which rittenhouse was found not

guilty after

and he was supposedly defending himself

is what the court ruled okay

the court did not the court is not a

green light to start talking about

violence i'm not going to repeat myself

again next time you're just getting

kicked all right so to get on actual

actually to get on topic again and to

answer the question that we're actually

trying to answer right you shouldn't be

[ __ ] protesting and and [ __ ]

writing or whatever like this verdict

kyle rittenhouse is a [ __ ] kid listen

if you want to do protests you want to

do riots you want to actually have your

voice heard you should spend your time

organizing in your community and trying

to make political change happen to make

sure that people aren't rioting for

these things in the future that led to

the situation happening you should make

sure you're pushing for health care

police reform like all of these kind of

things in your communities that's where

you should spend your energy not [ __ ]

the verdict of a case of a [ __ ]

minor who

got into a very unfortunate situation

he got himself into

to yell at people on twitter

what does that accomplish though get

yelling yelling at it on twitter gets us

no closer to medicare for all no closer

any of the policies that probably i

would say a lot i believe not as much as

people like charm hall are gonna do

though it got me on the show down and it

got me in a halo match with infra

[ __ ] hinkle so

can you can you stop saying insults

please i'm trying to be peachy

do you think that people would be going

out into the streets and lighting things

on fire and protesting and hitting each

other and bringing guns out

if they had the medicare for all and the

economy

going good if they didn't all gets

locked in their house and away from

their jobs

do you think maybe that was what was

causing all the protests

yes

their financial stability

they're more likely to

be involved with protests and violence

and things of that nature what we need

to do is have a government of action

that fights for working families that

provides health care that provides

education that provides housing that

rebuilds our country's infrastructure if

we realistically want to put an end to

all this violence events like january 6

that is exactly what we need no that's

not what you need that's not what you

need

that's not what you need at all right

it's not becoming more and more obvious

to me the more and more that i'm sitting

here that

like especially when it comes to

economics a lot of y'all don't even

understand like why it is you should

incentivize people to get their own

rather than waiting to be given

something by big daddy governments right

whenever you're just whatever just being

given something that has no whatever

it's just whatever you get

whatever you get given something

whatever

yankee let him finish and then he can go

yeah

so whenever you get given something it

has no value right so constantly trying

to push you know the government to

collect more taxes and everything else

what that really does is it hurts the

communities because now the communities

can't come together and form what we

called back in the day like charities

right typically this was done through

like churches or some type of

organization uh in a town or a locality

but charity right is the thing that ends

up helping people when they're in the

bad way to be able to get back to the

point where they can take care of

themselves of course they're you're

going to have people that end up with

you know medical conditions or etc right

that end up needing some kind of help

but that doesn't necessarily mean it

needs to be pushed all the way up to the

federal government that's something that

you could be advocating for in your

state right you could even be advocating

for the same thing in your county right

so like there are levels of government

to these things before you ever get to

the federal government before you're

trying to push it for all when maybe

that's not what this particular state

wants this is where freedom of choice

[ __ ] matters people

see tv there's a distinction between

having the government just do things for

you and like do all kinds of like build

stores and like like to all kinds of

like what what some people would say

overreach right there's a difference

between that and saying the government

should provide some base level of health

care to people right should provide some

base level of security to people there

are businesses

wasn't every salary you've got in your

entire life paid for by the government

no

it was though you were in the army no it

wasn't i got out of the navy the navy

right because

because i

because i served on submarines right

and i did that from 2001 to 2010. i

haven't gotten [ __ ] all from the

government

until like a few years ago when i was

able to go sign up at the va for some

health care there besides that i ain't

got [ __ ]

so you're getting subsidies from the

government and then you're complaining

about all those things from the [ __ ]

government you saying a thing doesn't

make it [ __ ] true so if you're gonna

start telling me how i like my [ __ ]

life then you need to come over here and

[ __ ] jump on this [ __ ] johnson you

hear me listen otherwise sit there shut

the [ __ ] up and don't even show your

[ __ ] face because you don't want to

own your own [ __ ] things that's where

we're at right now i want to go back to

yankee because yankee was actually

making a [ __ ] point that i could

respond to instead you said you're

talking about this dumb [ __ ] not the

benefits that you fought for

but you're fighting out against a

government that's capable of providing

you healthcare you're fighting against a

government that provides the means in

which uh for you to be able to survive

after you went and fought for the

country and that so

my survival is not dependent upon health

care period

it's not

the thing is

right there right there is where you

need to ask a different question the

different questions should be is that

why do we have a veteran that is in this

system that is not advocating for it to

be for everybody because what i can see

is the real [ __ ] danger of having

piss-poor [ __ ] health care which if

you bother going and looking in history

you'll see that veterans got a long and

historic [ __ ] history when it comes

to having problems with the [ __ ] va

right so

why don't we want that for everyone

because it [ __ ] sucks it's been

getting better in the last few [ __ ]

years

just because it has issues just because

it has

rap god i'm [ __ ] everybody because

you won't [ __ ] stop right

that's the [ __ ] problem here i'm the

only one in the [ __ ] room with this

[ __ ] take one at a time for responses

and your take is whoa it's not wrong

it's your [ __ ] opinion

you're expecting people to contribute to

charities when most people would rather

give you a ten dollar bill than work at

a soup kitchen for an hour

and how do you go about fixing people's

mentalities to get it changed

your way for the charities to

provide where the government should be

it's not my job through government to do

those things it's people in their

communities organizing to form such a

thing and realistically they're not

going to do that right so we have

necessarily

there's lots of organizations across the

country that do this very thing that i'm

talking about now you're not anymore

not enough

so then it sounds like there's more work

to be [ __ ] done so instead of trying

to

go instead of trying to push it through

the [ __ ] government which at a what

it does is they points a gun to your

head and says you will do this thing and

if you don't you will end up in jail

that's what government is it doesn't

matter if it's a [ __ ] parking ticket

or jaywalking first there's a fine you

don't pay

one at a time one at a time one at a

time dario go

sure ctv this is just an anti-government

argument in general right i'm pretty

sure you're not an anarchist right you

believe in some form of government right

it's true just saying yeah so just

saying the government does everything at

the barrel of a gun yeah that's true

right but we do want some things to be

at the barrel of a gun right we do want

the government to have some sort of

function right and listen the reason why

everybody is against you on this is

because you come off as an extremist to

one side right if you're taking a more

nuanced position right i might agree

with you more than i agree with some

other people on this panel but we're

never gonna have that conversation right

because i don't believe the government

should do everything right i don't

believe the government should provide

all kinds of different things for

citizens i just believe that the

government should provide the bare

necessities for people to be able to

thrive and live their own lives right

that's working and i think healthcare is

one of them right i think healthcare and

i think security and i think to some

degree like shelter and food like like

just the base necessities for you to be

able to survive then you can organize in

your communities thrive you can do

things which you and your community your

state your local city whatever that you

like right i like i don't want everybody

to go to a counter protest right yeah so

scenario right

you you brought up a really good word in

there and it's security right like there

are things i do expect the government to

be doing right and we're going to assume

that we're talking about the federal

government here because that's where

you're advocating for medicare

not necessarily right like not

necessarily right like i also

uh do like

generally uh more

distribution between power right i do

like the american system but you are

advocating for medicare for all which

would be a federal program right

well

i mean at the end i would like every

single state or like every single city

to have absolutely i understand that but

what you're advocating for is medicare

for all and that would be handled at the

federal level correct

depends what you mean right i'm not

advocating

i'm just trying to understand yeah i'm

not advocating for the policy medicare

would you have wanted a child like what

if what if they were like okay anyway

i feel like that was a distraction

because there was this whole thing that

got said ahead of time so security right

was the word that you pointed out there

are things i do expect the federal

government to be doing right to build

and maintain post roads which is

specifically spelled out in the

constitution is a thing that i expect

him to be doing right to uh to provide

and maintain a navy all right

we have to put this into the next round

as the next topic because we have

exhausted the current topic in regards

to kyle rittenhouse so

i'm going to explain the process i think

we have a change of protocol now

and this is how it's going to work now

the judges are going to decide a winner

of this round the winner of the round

will be able to eliminate

one out of two of the people who get

voted for the least so chat you want to

vote to keep

not kick

vote to keep not kick

we will announce

we the judges will announce uh our

result when the poll is done

both to keep not quit uh kick who did

you enjoy the most i'm gonna hover my

mouse so you can see the names here

and you're gonna vote who you like the

best who you want to keep

and not who you want to kick you

understand

so listen to your chat

sorry

is it in your chat or is it like a you

can share it you can share it in your

chat as well it's not this is it it'll

just be mine

is it oh it's a straw poll okay yeah

it's trouble

okay let's get to voting

all right

the judge's vote is in we are going to

announce the winner based on our vote

so i'll go first announcing my winner

chris vt henry goat

uh the cultured veteran he uh he did a

really good job defending his uh his

points he faced a lot of uh competition

there but i don't think anyone uh really

successfully

um

beat down his uh wait class clarify who

is it

uh the veteran the cultured veteran is

that the

guy who was arguing against uh medicare

for all and all that stuff that's a

thinking veteran his name is yeah

critical thinking veteran okay ah

critical thinking veteran yeah my bad my

bad luca

[Music]

you're muted

also fix your camera

yeah so the uh it's critically thinking

veteran

and uh syllables matter what's wrong

with the camera

no it's luca's camera it's it's uh oh i

got you i got you turn sideways luca

who's your vote

i'm gonna go ahead and say that chris vt

made some of the most cogent points

y'all are being you also call yourselves

leftists are being wiped the floor by a

man with a wonderful mustache and a guy

who wears aviators so get your [ __ ]

together

okay the judges and uh result is in

chris vt is the leader of the round

now let's check the vote

a

the result of the vote is we have at the

bottom two pesto mime and yankee tanki

so chris vt who would you like to

eliminate pesto mime or yankee tanky

testomime

okay pesto mime you had a good run you

were a bit quiet oh no

pesto mime will be returning for next

week's show

hopefully he won't be a quiet boring

[ __ ] next time

okay pesto mime

anything any final words you'd like to

announce before we move on to the next

round

the mic broken

your mic is broken

i didn't like it

[ __ ] it sounds like a damn aircraft or a

[ __ ] airplane's taking off every time

he keys his mic up that's best of mine

is that okay that's that

website right now

okay

and subscribe to our magazine okay thank

you pesto mime

okay

all right we are now moving on to our

next topic bridging off from the one

previously and it is

what role should government have in our

economy should it be limited should it

be extensive is there too much

government is there too little

government

let's take it away

you can't have money without government

this is as simple as as simple as as

long as people care about the dollar

right

money i believe zerka was the one who

said uh moni is like

uh what is it is like one word it's like

one thing like one one eye one

right like as far as like who because

who else like what are you going to just

have crypto threat after bad take i

don't even know what you're saying but

what i'm going to say is i think that

the government is already extremely

involved in our personal lives in the in

you know our economy but they're

involved in rigging the economy for the

elites i want to rig the economy for the

prosperity of the masses of the people

of this country

yes i think i think that anything that

ctv says is wrong and i'll stand by my

words

same agrees

right so i guess instead of the enemy

that's willing to fight for working

families not a government of action in

place for multinational corporations and

this is why i believe we need things

like medicare for all we need things

like a federal jobs guarantee we need to

mobilize our young people to rebuild

this country's infrastructure we need a

government that's willing to actually do

what is necessary for the working people

this country instead of the

multinational banking system

well so i

what i i hear a lot of people say stuff

like we want the government of action we

want the government that isn't rigged

for like the elites and all this kind of

thing right

to some degree and i and i did enjoy

that like you did say some i assume or

like policy positions yankee and stuff

but i would rather just like talk about

what roles do you think government

should feel right and like do you like

the way that the u.s government

functioned right now with like the

different branches of government

the federal government the states

local and all these

because i actually do like the way that

the american government is divided right

i don't want the federal government to

necessarily decide everything for like

every single different county state city

all these kinds of things right but i do

think that every single person living in

a country or even in the world right

because i don't really like my morals

apply to everybody right and i i think

everybody should have access to some

degree of health care some degree of

education like a minimum standard they

should be able to have a roof over their

head and they should be able to feed

themselves right i think those are

fundamental for everybody to be able to

have in order to prosper in the world

right without those things you can't

have a chance to make something of

yourself and while i can agree with what

you just said we go the practice differs

whenever it comes to how those things

are gotten right a person needs to have

a a drive to want to

get those things for themselves so like

yeah i agree that housing and eating and

washing your ass and you know all these

things are very important and very very

much much needed right but how how these

the people end up with those things is

the difference

you think that you think that the people

that are out there working the jobs and

are already contributing to the tax

system is the ones that need to be

footing the bill for the people that

that don't right and while i can agree

that like

and while i can agree

while i can agree at the state level

right that there should be taxes

collected and i would vote for something

at a state level right where i was

helping out people that were

disenfranchised or or needed you know

some help to get back on their feet

right i definitely would be a part of

the crowd that would be like yeah i

don't mind tax dollars going for that

but when you're talking about the

federal level and there there's always

seems to be so much like lack of

oversight to where it ends up being that

there are people out there that just end

up gaming the system and when they do

that it makes conservatives right and

especially when we see it out in our

communities people gaming the system it

has us lose respect for the system in

its entirety so

we need to get a lot better about

oversight if we're going to be doing

these things and this is why at the

federal level right

these things don't need to be being

pushed there because of the oversight

and because it creates the type of

bureaucracies that we have where you end

up with just the leaders of the

bureaucracy and the making law that was

not passed by the people and that in and

of itself creates a whole other [ __ ]

thing

you're going on this is a fundamental

issue

shut up

charm hall goes first then dario now

this is a fundamental understanding of

how taxation works when your government

takes your tax dollars more importantly

your bosses and your owners tax dollars

because they're the ones giving you the

money that they get right so as long as

you get that

right you're giving away your money it's

just burned they don't take your money

ctv they don't take

haza's massive amount of partner money

right and then they go put it in a

library or a car or a cop you know down

the street that's not how it works when

they tax it the dollar is poof they're

gone all right they're gone

that's how taxation works and when you

say like oh they're gaming the system

like how else are they going to get

ahead in a system where our system is

just it's all inheritance it's just

given it's just boom hey you were rich

and you [ __ ] so you had some kids and

now they're rich because we don't have a

proper taxation system to redistribute

the wealth more importantly it's just

it's deleting their money that's what it

is we need to delete the inherited money

all right and one of the taxation is

it's not about taking the billionaire's

dollars and giving it to you so you can

buy a nintendo switch right yeah and the

problem in your argument right there is

that you pointed out an action that

someone else chose it ended up like

being a very serious marker for why they

ended up not being able to collect the

amount of wealth that you're talking

about they had children right children

are [ __ ] expensive if you have a

child you can expect yourself to be

paying an 18-year payment plan for this

life that you chose to either spread

your legs for or dive all the way into

period

of time it was my turn it was my turn it

was my turn okay just just a second

right i want to i want to actually

respond to ctv's point instead of just

making weird voices and pretending like

ctv is a child right so the actual

response to your point ctv is that there

is an issue with the system that you're

proposing right where we don't have a

base necessity is that somebody has to

take care of the people who are

non-working right and a large portion of

the population are either elderly are

sick or unemployed or are children right

and unless these people have somebody to

provide for them in some way or another

they will just die right because they

cannot provide for themselves by

definition

no one cares no one cares anyways um ctv

so i completely agree with you

uh the united states of america is a

settler state that needs to be broken up

the federal state is completely useless

and uh useless based it would not exist

and the states should be divided up and

yeah that's it

yeah it's not completely useless at all

the federal government does like very

useless

not it serves a very important role in

our in in our government here the

problem is is it it has been

asked to do things that it was not

originally intended to do and the

unintended consequences of that has been

the the basic setting up of tiny [ __ ]

governors that are not elected by way of

bureaucrats just to give us laws that we

the people have to abide by or if we end

up with that gun pointed at us and there

there are tons of examples of

legislation that ends up doing this one

would be like where restaurant doors

[ __ ] have to come in one way and then

go the other way because you're having

to fight back against two different

government entities these examples exist

so this is where like you have to get

away from continuing to obfuscate

responsibility of the house uh and the

senate uh from the people to a [ __ ]

third party entity in by way of

bureaucracy

can you respond to my point instead of

answering like the dumb [ __ ] or just

ctv take that flag down take that flag

though

i'll tell you what when you start paying

the bills at my house you can start

making decisions around here until then

[ __ ] off how's that

until then

ctv can you respond to my point instead

of answering like the dumb [ __ ] who

just interject i'm sorry man they went

first so give it to me again sure so how

do you how do you propose we handle the

non-working population which is a pretty

big portion of the american public isn't

it like 30

30 something percent are either like too

old too sick or too young

or or unemployed right they just can't

provide for themselves they can't work

right how do you propose we take care of

these people if not by some form of

government right and if you're if your

answer i propose i assume your answer

will be some kind of charity well in

that case

if nobody's providing them charity what

do we do like do they just die

i i

first off

you're not born with an expectation to

someone else's services

okay

you're literally boring

though

when you're born when you're born you're

born at a hospital right you're born in

the hospital you receive the hospital

features

even if i love how i love how you all

misunderstood what it is that i said in

your continuing but go ahead i'll listen

for a little bit longer were you just a

[ __ ]

no listen wow

the low-hanging fruit that comes my way

at charm hole right i mean he's been on

the platform for over what two years now

and you couldn't come up with a better

[ __ ] name after i destroyed you on a

prime panel before it's amazing anyway

so

the fact of the matter is

it's true

again and the clip is still on the

channel you getting [ __ ] roasted so

there you go

infrastructure build was the

infrastructure built too much or too

little is there too much government

intervention in the economy or do we

need more government

in order to fix our economy

we need we need more i'll argue that

listen the main thing is this if you

look i lived in china for two years

china which hasn't been at war which

hasn't been an empire like the united

states has high-speed railroad

everywhere

i could go from wuhan to beijing beijing

to urumuchi

to lasa you know why because their

government provides for their people

instead of going and bombing a bunch of

other [ __ ] countries

another thing is that there you see all

ctv i got respect for you but if you

look around there all that stuff you

have most of it is made in china

ccp is evil though look at hong kong

look at

look at all of these that's fake news

fake news cia talking points be careful

what do you mean fake news i'll bring it

here talking about fallacies

and what they're doing tonight

china does wrong as well

the cia

proved that they were not doing anything

to the weaker population in china

recently

wait where the heart

is

you're only allowed to call uh

america settlers you can't you know what

i mean like reign it in

come on

actually i feel like i'm the only person

who actually engages with what has to

say listen

right now this is what i think this is

what i think i think the flag's made in

america by the way just so we're clear

shut the [ __ ] up i think you shut the

[ __ ] up

everybody calm down

good don't tell me shut the [ __ ] up

we'll agree how's that

no you're being you're all right okay

moving on jackson go

okay so i think there's many examples

within our economy in the us today in

which

privatization for-profit middlemen

make uh different industries operate

poorly for working-class people and the

masses of this country i think to

specify a little bit more about what i

was saying about uh you know more

government intrusion

to facilitate the you know smooth

sailing of major industries and basic

necessities in this country we need to

break up certain oligopolies and

monopolies and uh give them back to the

people certain industries should be

nationalized yeah there should be more

economic investment in small businesses

and to get to the point of the

infrastructure bill uh the

infrastructure bill was like 1.5

trillion

um over 10 years that's not going to do

a dent in our infrastructure

we have like a grade of a d minus on our

infrastructure in this country that's

going to do nothing

i absolutely agree with jackson the big

thing is look at it's embarrassing to go

to a place like boston it's it's it's

embarrassing to go to a place like

boston and see

the subway you know the tea and you go

to china in shanghai or you go to other

parts and you're like my god it's so

high tech why they put their people to

work they put the money back to the

economy they put the money back to the

working class back to the infrastructure

people aren't working

really

we have self-driving really okay dude

we literally had a storm in new york

city back like a few months ago and the

entire city had to shut down because of

a few inches of rain

like think about that new york city is

one of the largest cities in the world

and we have to shut down everything due

to a few inches of water

it's like you don't understand hold on i

want to address the point to chris uh

but that's like you just don't under

even understand how topography works

right like whenever that hurricane came

through i think it was sandy right way

but you know then like a couple of weeks

later i'm talking about a regular rain

storm i'm talking about like a regular

rain yeah i'm hearing you i'm i'm

hearing you the point is is that it's

right at [ __ ] sea level

jesus [ __ ] okay now

jesus christ [ __ ] chris you were

saying something that was like worth

actually [ __ ] addressing do you mind

do you mind giving me a recap because

that [ __ ] got me distracted a little bit

but i got something here for you i was

just talking about investing investing

in the infrastructure about china oh

right china china china right right so

so the important thing to point out in

that is that like the fact that china

has only been making these types of

gains and like

jesus [ __ ] christ sultan's sold out

i was scanning the room to see who was

talking i couldn't insult him shut the

[ __ ] up let him talk

all right so so chris

it's important to note that in the last

50 years that's when china has been

making a lot of its gains now the thing

that i

am not 100 on right and i don't know

that you are either but the question

that you have to ask yourself is is the

type of worker protections that we have

here in the united states are those

actually being done for the chinese

people or is it just simply about them

exploiting the people right and forcing

them to do a thing in order to

accomplish a thing and if that's the

case then it wasn't done with the type

of value system that i would want a

government to have whenever it comes

doing these things which is why we have

these type of worker protections here

right i love how everybody here

everything everybody is thinking

shut the [ __ ] up and let chris tv

respond

ctv with all due respect we they have

worker protections as well absolutely

the problem is that in this country we

have people in prison making victoria's

secret lingerie for pennies making

boeing airplane parts for pennies all

documented

whole foods whole foods was making

cheese

out of the prison population we say that

we respect i've never heard that

actually do you have some links yes

yeah i would love to see it yeah

look at look at here i if somebody else

can look it up i can definitely i can

definitely put some in the chat yeah

just look at the yeah you can put it in

the just send it to me in dm it'll be

the easiest way i'm hearing the discord

call

everybody make more what we need to do

is we need to give more people more

things we can keep making more and

consuming more and so we can hurry up

and destroy this [ __ ] planet you're

probably charming

i am staying on topic these are like

christie don't argue with the [ __ ]

moderators stay on topic

the issue you were saying that new york

city got flooded because it's below sea

level so what about the netherlands

yeah but the netherlands is even lower

than we are and they never get flooded

why is that

because they built a big ass [ __ ]

lock out there to hold out the [ __ ]

water

because of [ __ ] geography for [ __ ]

sake man you don't even know anything

about new york

where are you going to build

the type of idea that you just gave me

was so far [ __ ] fetched that like it

just takes you wait like there's no

[ __ ]

to prevent things like flooding from

happening we don't have anything in

place we literally are just like we're

just going to take it full on and hope

for the best that's what we have right

now and one of the head virtually

completely no like other places they

have stuff in preparation for like yes

but new york city also has these

preparations it's called pumps and [ __ ]

[ __ ] outs and they do

they do it's a part of new york city's

infrastructure

there's a lot of pumps that keep water

out of fact the pumps running in the

subway are running constantly see tv

i think i

listen listen ctv i think regardless of

whether you want to you know agree with

him on this specific point

the engineers of america have said that

we have uh we are our grade of

infrastructure in the united states is

like a d minus so objectively according

to the engineers of the united states

it's piss-poor right and i don't agree

with that don't you think don't you

think let me finish don't you think that

if we didn't spend

785 billion dollars every single year to

maintain 850 military bases to bomb

seven different countries uh to pump

money in these like regimes that we

could actually improve our

infrastructure here at home wait one

moment

wait i gotta pause it for a second a red

ambience with a hundred dollar donation

thank you so much brother appreciate it

a ton uh ctv go ahead

basically yeah so i can definitely

oh this is where like an understanding

is

who left

who just left

i don't know the people i was talking to

are still here so

yeah i don't know

they suck

i feel bad for that person mario oh it

was dario it was dario yeah and i was

talking to darya where'd he go they rage

quit what happened

i he wouldn't had a reason to do that i

don't think

he said his internet crashed and he's

trying to okay okay the biggest issue

here

to jackson hinkle because he asked me a

very specific question i don't

understand jesus [ __ ] jesus just open

your chart let's see tv

so

if you understand the constitution which

you understand is or at least my

understanding right as i read this thing

is it the army should not be as big as

it is and that would have to do exactly

with the air force as well which is why

it was kind of confusing for me

why that there needed to be a [ __ ]

space force right because fact of the

matter is is that congress is told to

provide and maintain a navy well a navy

flies through any type of [ __ ] medium

so why is it that the navy wouldn't just

be the natural thing to keep pushing

towards any other ideas that you have

instead of just regulating it only to

traveling on the oceans or waterways

right you could [ __ ] i mean the navy

has the [ __ ] best pilots in the world

anyway so like there does need to be a

restructuring and if there are nations

that wanted to have our military forces

on the land that they occupy what should

have happened and if we would have

passed

ready at attention we're not it's not a

sleeping [ __ ] debate

yeah so if we would have had we would

have [ __ ] boring

if we would have had more statesmen

right instead of politicians just trying

to advocate on either side along the way

we would have had a lot smarter

decisions be made like if you want our

military there then there needs to be a

vote for you to become a state to the

united states

without that right you end up setting up

the very thing that we're sitting here

like is the counterpoint is exactly what

jackson hinkle said right now how do we

justify spending this money whenever the

land and these people are not a part of

us and that's how you end up in those

things and that's what the founders

warned us against when they talked about

entangling alliances can i ask you a

question i want to ask you a question

are you a patriot

yes i consider myself also a red patriot

let me ask you a question let me ask you

a question

uh do you think it's patriotic that we

have the best bridges in the world

we don't have the best bridges in the

world no no i'm saying do you think it's

betrayed that we were if that we have

that we that we build the best bridges

in the world

i'm not sure where you're going with

this i'm not know what i what i'm trying

to say is don't you think it's patriarch

that we should have the best

infrastructure in the world that we

should have the best trains the best

bridges i mean

well you should definitely take pride in

in your own [ __ ] infrastructure to be

sure yeah that's what i'm saying our

country doesn't give a [ __ ] about the

infrastructure yeah we have nothing to

be proud of we have nothing to be proud

of so when when all of

i've been able to go all the way from

new york to san diego up to [ __ ]

north dakota down to the tip of florida

i've been able to go everywhere anyways

you've got the best highways

i'm not saying they're the best highways

but i've been able to get across my

country which frankly doesn't have the

hundreds of year more history of

building of the infrastructure that

europe and some of the other parts of

the world have our infrastructure is

oh i was just saying that we don't have

bullet trains though

i thank you for that anna

uh

built over hundreds of years they were

built in 20 years like are you

this yeah

the difference between china building

its infrastructure now is would be the

same thing when america was building its

infrastructure at the start of the

industrial revolution right that's when

the land was most clear and it was a lot

easier for the government to say well we

want to do this thing and then so we're

going to clear out this [ __ ] land you

people need to [ __ ] move well guess

what that's been happening for a lot

longer here through imminent domain so

then we end up in the situation where

it's a lot harder to get things done

this is where like one of the things

that i did look at as a part of this

infrastructure build which i don't think

is going to end up serving the purposes

of people wishing they would but the

i-14 project that connects augusta uh uh

over to fort benning through georgia is

going to be crucial right for moving

commercial traffic [ __ ] crucial

that's a 100

let me talk ctv so you said that uh

china's been able to do this because

they're focusing on their

industrialization right now don't you

think that because we are i said that

because

just let me preface right

they didn't have they had a blinker

slate for them to be able to uh [ __ ]

start you know uh terraforming the land

and building the infrastructure okay i

would argue that it doesn't matter

because we have the most prosperous

economy on the earth

right now at least for you know the

foreseeable five years ten years uh i

think we can do it right now if we

wanted to

people in america right now everybody

from poor to rich is paying 80 of their

income just to live on the land 80 of

the income and people are like oh we

need to tax billionaires more oh we need

to be paid more no

rent is literally too damn high and so

are mortgages

that's the [ __ ] issue and you're

going to say oh so prosperous because i

can buy a ps5

no that's interesting

sultan what do you want to say

as an albanian who's been to america i

can tell you

we have way better infrastructure and

we're not even that rich of a country

which country are you ready

albania has high speed bullet trains

while the us

has deteriorating

1980s diesel trains exactly just

just

how much do you think it costs to

replace these strings

i live here in vermont right i'm a

farmer it's all farmers here right what

do we have we have maple syrup we've got

hay we've got i've been up there brother

good stuff it's beautiful up here let me

ask you a question

why do we have the f-35 based in vermont

what the hell good is it doing are we

going to go to war with quebec over

maple syrup are we going to go to are we

going to invade montreal

where when everybody the question that

you're asking doesn't actually like the

reality here is that the fact that it's

being produced in vermont doesn't

actually matter considering that the

manufacturing of it is serving the

federal purpose which one of the 50

states can toast that i mean you know

what i'm saying is that we're hosting it

every time it flies it costs you know

tens of thousands of dollars it makes

yeah i'm not an advocate for the f-35 to

be clear

what i'm saying is that the f-35 one

plane is hundreds of millions of dollars

put that one plane in the scrapyard and

let's build railroads

you're not gonna you're not gonna hear

me argue that we need the f-35 i don't

frankly think that we need the f-35 but

it's one of those but it is in fact one

of those programs and once it got

started

like now it's it's just a [ __ ] it's a

mess which is why it never should have

been started to begin with

the frustration that we have with with

what you're saying is you're saying well

america doesn't you're providing like

these like uh

defense arguments for why america isn't

investing in their infrastructure you're

saying we don't have a blank slate or

like rebuilding our entire train

infrastructure is going to be too much

money meanwhile we're spending like or

we spent 800 million a day in

afghanistan alone like i think you're

just making excuses they're kind of an

excuse it's the practical reality of the

situation

[Music]

if you're going to ask the question you

got to let me answer right but

everybody's out of here is i know

everybody's asking me a question which

is why it's important for you to let me

[ __ ] answer jesus christ jesus so the

important thing to remember is it's not

just the amount of you know time that

it's going to take one to build the

train assuming that you're going to

build it in a different place you're

going to end up having a slower you know

if you just go from one to the other

without building them separately you're

going to have a slowdown in the amount

of goods and services that you can move

around the country right so people don't

want to do that so then you have to

acquire new land and new places to lay

down the tracks in order to build the

thing and then you're going to have to

justify the cost of doing the thing to

see how much more money that you're

going to be able to make to offset the

amount of cost that you're going to have

to put into this thing so this is where

like a basic understanding of

entrepreneurship and business building

becomes very important to understand

what are the things that the government

should be considering along the way for

how beneficial it's going to be for the

people based on the amount of money that

it's going to cost i think you just

prove my point in everyone's point here

because doing that and having a five

year 10-year plan so we can actually

plan for those things is better than

pissing away all our taxpayer money on

these stupid wars and not achieving any

sort of growth or any sort of

industrialization that's going to

benefit this country right so then we

have to go back and talk to the root

question which was about economic policy

and how it's been being botched for the

last hundred [ __ ] years and has

allowed the american people to sell

their children's and grandchildren's

[ __ ] future down the [ __ ] drain to

keep paying this [ __ ] tax machine

instead of getting us back to a more

stable [ __ ] currency right that is

not going to just continue to drain the

[ __ ] people because every dollar

that's printed is printed with interest

on it

one moment one moment henry check the

internal uh dc please or discord okay

liberal okay shut up i got three points

yeah yeah i saw it i saw it

listen i got three points jesus christ

come on here all right

dude i was dc just let me make no i know

jackson okay please go ahead

jackson yeah sure i want to i want to

bridge the gap a little bit right

because there's a discussion between how

do we pay for it right but when people

talk about how do we pay for these

things right you're not talking about

this is that this is the american budget

and this is all the money that gets

spent on military like what is it like

60 percent or whatever like that's not

what people are in good when when people

in good faith make the argument that you

can't afford these things you're talking

about political will right is there our

political will to allocate this amount

of money in the budget for these things

right so

it isn't as efficient answer to just say

well we're spending so much money on the

military right surely we can find 1

billion to do this thing or like one

billion to do this thing right you have

to argue how do you get the political

will and the american people behind

supporting these things or supporting

candidates which will allocate things in

the budget to these things right and

right now well

what we need to do to be able to

actually get the political uh like uh

will to get these things we need to

organize our workplaces and our

communities and build bases of power

within our communities and workplaces so

we can actually push politicians through

like an actual general strike for

example yeah right

listen that's a very good argument and

this is actually an argument that maybe

ctv can also get behind right because if

you're actually making this argument in

the way that yankee tanki made it the

way that i understand it right you're

saying well you don't necessarily need

the government to do everything right

you just need to empower the people

within the government to provide some of

those things for themselves

listen dario wrap it up then sultan sure

yeah so an example of this is in denmark

for example where i live

you don't actually have a minimum wage

in denmark and the reason why is because

70 of the people of the workers are

unionized right so they have an ability

to bargain with the employers with the

state to make agreements where all the

workers get their fair share or as much

as they can uh bargain for right

you do realize that like every single

argument that you're making now has been

there

let sultan go then uh ctv oh

yeah

okay so i was saying i have an idea in

the middle ground between both of your

opinions

and it's basically gonna solve the whole

uh buying land problem

uh the thing is you have to listen to

larouche's world bridge plan

which is to build a bridge between

alaska

and

russia

between siberia and russia and that will

solve all the infrastructure problems in

the world

and

second of all

that's not gonna cause uh any la any

land buybacks or whatever because you're

building it over the ocean

and third of all uh charm hall can you

stop like doing those odd things uh

because they're annoying me yeah i know

you're very weak and you're intimidated

let's see

massive mass see i got three points and

i'll be done for the rest of the point i

swear to god three points no

goes next then charlotte

shut up ctv

oh my god

oh my god that was spiteful

he already is up next uh see veteran go

yeah so

every argument that you guys have been

making and the same arguments has been

made along the way this led us to where

we are now so you got to start looking

at these things more like a statesman

and the office in which you're

representing right versus

and this goes for anybody running for

any type of public office and the people

need to understand what the purposes are

of those public offices because the

reality of the situation is is that our

government is set up

the fact of the matter is is that the

people

why does that keep happening sultan

don't make me

stop

if it doesn't okay thank you um

all right the same type of systems that

you have put into place now have led us

to where we are right you have to look

the our system is written to where you

don't or should not have to trust the

people you should only have to trust the

laws that are written and the

responsibilities that the offices that

the people hold

there so that it holds the people as

close to away from corruption as you

possibly can

that way you don't have to trust the

people that's the like the whole reason

why a lot of the [ __ ] that we have here

is written the way that it is so you

trust the office you don't have to trust

the person

okay

listen we're going to let charm hill go

and then aris ann is trying to avoid the

heat being placed on her arizona's going

after

go ahead charm

three points that's it i'm done and i'll

win this round all right defund the

pentagon

defund the pentagon i'm bringing

everybody's points together defund the

pentagon it's just that easy

two inheritance tax now inheritance tax

now the rich are too damn rich and how

thomas picketty capital 21st century

listen to the audiobook if you can't

read he says inheritance is the main

issue this is why trump hated romney

because he wanted to come after his

inheritance what happens is generation

after generation the wealth keeps

going into the same family it gets

concentrated nobody else gets the money

all right inheritance tax now and three

the rent is too damn high our entire

justice system including what we just

talked about in the last topic

our entire justice system is based on

land that's it land is justice if you

own land you own the police rent is too

damn high this is why three points

defund the pentagon inheritance tax now

rent is too damn high i received i see

the rest of my time thank you aries and

you have been avoiding being called on

this whole time what is your take and

why do you think

everyone here is a dumb [ __ ] except you

go ahead

uh

well i've worked for

a lot of defense contractors so i have a

bit of a mixed view here

uh because i do agree that our

infrastructure

is pretty [ __ ] but at the same time i

like getting paid

bro okay that was

now we are going to vote we are done

with this topic we're gonna move on to

the next one chat

vote who do you want to keep not kick

and when we're done the judges are going

to announce the winner of the round in

their view the winner of the round is

going to be able to eliminate

the two lowest people in the bottom or

one of the two i should say

so here we go vote to keep not kick

everybody vote right now

yo can i just say chris i really like it

okay we're not i'm playing the music now

and let's wait for the result to come in

right that wraps up the voting the

audience has voted and the results are

now in

so i'm gonna give my vote

my vote happens also to be the people's

champion which is jackson hinckle that's

my vote henry go ahead and give yours

my vote's gonna have to be for uh the

veteran again

luca

yeah i'm gonna have to say the better as

well this is how this is going

all right

now

jackson in the bottom two we have

and this is

this is this can't be true i mean

maybe it's glitched or something it

charm hole who has received zero votes

and dario are in the bottom two

now

i don't know how that's possible not a

single person voted for him that must be

a glitch i'm not even kidding he didn't

need to vote for himself i know i voted

for myself i don't it's literally that's

weird that's weird i don't i'm looking

at the review

does anyone see other results

recount

you voted for so people are saying they

voted for charmhole

in the chat

and yet he is showing up with zero votes

don't worry that midnight ballot drop

will come in for him

that is very strange

you found the pentagon

stop the steal huh

that's very very mysterious i don't know

if there's interference

from unknown actors

russian hacking of voter machines

ladies and gentlemen someone has it out

there

moscow has it out for charmhole

apparently he has zero votes

this absolutely makes no sense

who left

dario

no i'm here

who just left

okay that was tanky all right um that's

really weird i'm not gonna lie that's

extremely weird um charm

still has zero votes updated a little

bit

um

huh this is quite a

unforeseen

is there something better than straw

poll because this is popped up it came

up for me now

okay he's got he's got votes charmhole's

got many votes actually so the bottom

two

are now eris ann and daario are in the

bottom two

and

i we're just gonna have to roll with

that arizona and dario

um

jackson who do you want to eliminate

uh heiress

is that your final decision

and you're probably [ __ ] fed so we'll

get rid of you okay

it looks like jackson has spoken

[ __ ] boy

eris why don't you give some closing

remarks shout out to your channel

and tell us you know what you thought

about the show and if you're gonna be on

next week go ahead

uh this was my first panel so it was fun

um

i don't really have much to shout out i

have a cool twitter list where all of uh

the politics streamers are on there so

you can follow that and watch them argue

in real time

but that's all i've got

all right eris and do you want to also

give some closing remarks about how the

panel made you feel

um

all right

now

that was so obvious shut up now we are

moving to our next round and our next

topic

and as a turn of events

we are actually moving it back

to kyle rittenhouse

and the trials surrounding it

but this time we want to focus some

attention instead of the trial and the

verdict i want to hear

your

thoughts and your disagreements about

social media's response to kyle

rittenhouse in the court we saw a famous

tweet by lebron james the basketball

player mocking rittenhouse for crying

has social media gone too far in

bullying kyle rittenhouse for crying and

other examples of his suffering or

have they not gone far enough

was lebron james response justice he

would story

i think i think i think if you have the

opinion that a kid who just shot two

people who is very obviously emotionally

having a breakdown as his life is on the

line in a [ __ ] court case and like

his his [ __ ] his life is left to a

jury and you're just having fun of that

and thinking he's faking it taking pot

shots at him on national tv you're a

piece of [ __ ] and you probably

haven't experienced you're probably

listening probably you don't have much

experience

one at a time let's let's let's just go

then mario can i ask you something why

do you feel bad for okay i understand

that you like i understand

just basic human beings

what do you mean human decency you guys

are a millionaire after he suits the

media i'm not i don't feel bad for

[ __ ] anyone who's going to get rich

about [ __ ] getting like lawsuits

that's exactly why you need to develop

some empathy in your life

listen if you don't have empathy for

people who have a literal emotional

breakdown right in front of your eyes

and you can only laugh with them because

you're a piece of [ __ ] hold on

sultan what is going on you gotta mute

your mic and i don't know what's

happening but it's very distracting

you can just hear ourselves in this mic

that's what's happening there's feedback

mute your mic until unless you're gonna

talk

much to talk

go to push to talk okay there we go

continue

no i just listen it's very simple right

if you have any experience with people

who have face trauma who have emotional

breakdowns if you have any experience

with any kinds of people who have these

things it's very obvious the kid was

experiencing extreme stress the same

thing happened when he dude there's

another one yes now we can hear

ourselves in your mic

okay it should be good now my bad

yeah sure listen again if you have any

experiences dealing with these kinds of

people or experiences these things it's

very obvious that's what he was

experiencing he wasn't crying crocodile

tears and it's very disgusting to see

people with millions of followers just

taking pot shots the [ __ ] kid dude

seriously one of the things one of the

things that actually made me really

happy

okay

let yours respond for a final time then

ctv

i disagree with you dario on the fact

that you said they weren't crocodile

tears i literally know people i

literally have trauma myself and i think

for 100

this [ __ ] is all a show this he knows

this [ __ ] is televised i think it's

naive to think that he was actually

like that there's no [ __ ] inner

meaning to his crying on national

television in front of jury it's just

naive it's just naive

if you think he's if he's crying for

real is that what you're saying

yes of course yeah how the [ __ ] oh i'm

sorry are you an expert now how do you

know

crying

why would you assume he wasn't crying

for real let's let's put it like that

but i don't have i don't have

information from inside his brain right

if i don't have the information i won't

assume malice right if you can if you

can see the way that he's acting anyway

i mean listen i have a ton of friends

who have emotional issues i've seen many

emotional breakdowns i've had them

myself right listen i just think it's a

toxic it's like toxic masculinity on

steroids saying that oh because he's

crying it must be he's faking it right

because he's a man he just shut people

right he shouldn't be crying it's just

toxic masculinity

you shouldn't be crying i just don't

think the tears are real at all he's a

[ __ ] little [ __ ] hog and if i wasn't

banned on twitter that's what i would

tweet out

listen listen

to you

they were definitely real tears i saw a

video of him getting interrogated the

night that the shooting happened he was

crying the same exact way all i gotta

say is

all i gotta say why is what the [ __ ] is

wrong

what is what on earth is going on it's

it's it's

what are you doing mute your mind thank

you thank you all i gotta say is

lakers are eight and eight lebron is

averaging the lowest points per game in

his entire career he should focus on the

lakers rather than making fun of kyle

rittenhouse

yeah

on uh one moment yankee tanky is there a

reason you're not camped up or

thank you sorry i didn't realize i

wasn't camped up i apologize appreciate

it thank you uh continue

yeah so like one of the things like

lebron james coming out saying what he

said he's a dumbass he's an absolute

[ __ ] dumbass this is right this the

kyle rittenhouse case is a clear

situation where individuals from all

backgrounds should be able to see

right what defending yourself looks like

and i'm very very happy that the jury

came back the way that they did today i

feel like justice was served but one of

the things that was happening along the

way that quite frankly

i'm very happy to see out of the twitch

politics community

and maybe it's just where like i don't

follow everyone in the church politics

community but most of the people that i

saw were understanding right they like

those work crocodile tears and making

fun of him for

for crying and having an emotional

reaction was not the way to go about

things

and

so for the ones that i saw

very very [ __ ] base when i saw that

in the community here

the only thing that i think was worse

than just making fun of his tears is the

people who made the [ __ ] jokes about

him being um

[ __ ] how do i say this in prison right

like dropping this open stuff like jesus

christ dude literally you're literally

laughing at the prospect of a kid like

17 when he did the thing 18 now him

being

violated in prison you're laughing at

that like seriously dude

he's a teenager

it becomes antithetical to what the left

typically [ __ ] promotes right they

say that you know consent is very

important exactly and sexuality doesn't

actually matter right so if you want to

do that thing like go for it it doesn't

matter

except if it's a kid that you disagree

with right or you you think

yeah

yeah i think he was 17. that's not a kid

all right that's a teenager whoa whoa

legally legally

did he just go to on trial as an adult

yes

barely 18 years old okay then then he's

not a kid

by by wisconsin

he is 18 and one day he's no longer a

kid like we can't morally try

there's

i think the reactions on twitter are

indicative of a decadent society why

because instead of looking at the facts

instead of having a

citizenry that is enlightened that looks

and says okay judgment's going to be

served let's take a look at the evidence

presented instead they go to the memes

they make jokes they make fun i don't

know if the tears were real or not i'm

not a judge i'm not i'm not there to

figure this out

i've seen fake tears before we remember

the the girl from kuwait who came the

daughter of the ambassador who came in

from the congress crying oh my god

saddam is uh taking the babies and

throwing them in the hospital and then

guess what all fake all fake walleye was

fake so let me tell you this i don't

know the veracity what i can tell you is

this the society that we live in now

decadent 100

100 that they make fun of this [ __ ] that

they don't research that there's

everybody who claims no no no

investigation no right to speak nobody

investigates now everything is 160 words

everything is a meme everything is is a

gif and for me

that's highly problematic that's where

we are there we're in a society in

decline in my opinion culturally and

this is a spectacle

everything is a gift it's a spectacle

yeah it's just everything is a gif it's

not a gift a lot of people on the

internet that just [ __ ] lack empathy

and like i don't know they're

emotionally stunted or something i mean

either way it doesn't even matter to the

kid or not i think it doesn't matter if

he's like a kid or an adult like it's

just [ __ ] disgusting and like morally

reprehensible to like like just like

accuse someone of fake crying especially

when they're clearly in distress like

that's just disgusting oh no

the principle of the earth is gonna yell

at me for having bad morals i am

choosing not to have empathy for a

murderer

okay i

chris i think i'm gonna go even further

than that i just don't think it's

because you could probably so closely

identify with joseph

let him

yeah i just i just didn't think the

trial should have been respectable at

all i mean you literally had msnbc

literally following the jurors in a

[ __ ] bus as they were leaving like

they think you were drunk

and hear ourselves again

so it's like how are you going to

actually administer real justice if like

everything

might show more for more views and like

is this i agree it's a tabloid

this is the culture national enquirer

and you know what it's stoked on both

sides it's stoked by the ruling class

that's how you should think about this

it's spoken by not only msdnc but also

by by fox it's it's the murdochs of the

world it's the robert maxwell's gallant

father remember robert maxwell big

christian baron chris issue

the issue is that when pedophiles come

sorry i'm sorry sorry i think yeah i

just i just want to say chris the issue

is that it wasn't just the mainstream

media right like i will agree right in

this case i i just wrote about it on

twitter right the mainstream media was

actually terrible in reporting on pretty

much everything in terms of like the

carl rittenhouse case right but the

issue is that the alternative media

[ __ ] youtubers twitch streamers

twitter people [ __ ] politics

everybody was [ __ ] terrible like 99

of people were [ __ ] abhorrent when it

came to these things right and it wasn't

even mainstream media that we're talking

about right lebron james isn't

mainstream media like he's just a

[ __ ] oh for sure yeah

i agree with him so is kyle i agree with

you no doubt i think i think this the

the responses to this case just show how

unimportant and potentially damaging it

is for the layman to be giving comment

and try to give like nuanced comments on

a case like this as it's unrolling

because they're not exposed to all the

facts you saw the young turks go out and

say that kyle renthouse was the one

chasing an individual in the first place

i saw popular youtubers saying uh that

first guy threw a brick at kyle renton

house when he threw a bag at kyle

rittenhouse i think people should just

shut the [ __ ] up until the jury rules

and uh accept it for what it is

you have not said one thing at all about

the trial all last couple of weeks have

been going on

only one thing i ever said about the

trial was that anna casparian lied about

kyle rittenhouse being the person who

was uh chasing the individual in the

first place and i actually came to

kyle's defense on that point that was

the only thing i ever said well the

point is the point that i'm making is

though is that people do have opinions

and people do need to talk about these

things the fact of the matter is though

is that the people that that choose to

have the lack of empathy beforehand

right i feel like they can choose to

make that decision but the fact of the

matter is now is that the jury right

decided that kyle rittenhouse was not

guilty on all charges so the fact that

charmhole decides that he wants to say

that he's going to choose to not feel

empathy

means that he doesn't believe in any

part of the system of justice that we

operate here in the united states

perhaps maybe you should find a

different [ __ ] country to live in

no i'd rather fix my own instead of you

know just be a propaganda recruitment

officer for the [ __ ] navy right so

since the uh so since the system worked

as designed and justice was served today

and the young man didn't go to [ __ ]

jail for defending his own life

i don't know how you could want the

system to to operate in any other way

because that's what happened the

majority right the overwhelming [ __ ]

majority

of the nation went today and he went

yeah that's pretty [ __ ] based that's

the way it should have came out and the

reason why

go ahead tv ctv no that the issue is

that that's not the case right if you

look at polling data on the cal ridden

house case and all these like the

actually the majority of the united

states wanted him convicted for

something right i believe it was like

60 something percent of people actually

wanted him convicted of some charge

right so it's at the issue is that it's

actually the minority right to to say

that he should have walked on on all

accounts right and and the issues that

the mainstream media is is here like on

the side of like he should have been

convicted for something like we've got

[ __ ] bill de blasio saying he the

justice system is rigged we've got like

[ __ ] uh alternative media like who do

we listen to like like where would you

get your information if not from these

places like if the alternative media is

[ __ ] if mainstream media is [ __ ] if

[ __ ] 70 of the country is [ __ ] like

where do you go

where you go warm your own opinion like

you're mad

in this country

okay he asked me the question right so

where you go dario is the places

to to the places that help you learn

different ways of thinking that way as

you're in taking the information you can

filter it and put it in its appropriate

[ __ ] place because there's always

going to be dumb asses out there selling

snake oil you know what i mean

i think we all agreed at the start of

this panel though that the court of

public opinion doesn't really matter so

i don't even understand like why uh

we're so we're so caught up in following

this case when following it doesn't

really do anything to advance the issues

we all care about even if we disagree on

them

even i i agree jackson like even if the

[ __ ] verdict went the opposite way

nothing would change at all either like

what would how would that change for me

bro and nothing will change any of you

like that [ __ ] that wouldn't change any

like what would you say conditions would

change none of them yeah nothing would

change

let's see if this is this is oh sorry

uh but also like what um oh sorry crap i

don't know uh dario what dario was

saying um i mean it's kind of reasonable

though isn't it to like

i mean they most people wanted him

charged with something that doesn't

necessarily mean they wanted him charged

with like murder or homicide or whatever

i mean i would have

preferred if he was charged with like

something at least two like i don't know

bringing the gun across like state lines

or something but not necessarily like

murder or homicide or anything i mean i

think that's reasonable

too this is why

was right when he said

i think that the entire system

i think most people wanted the truth to

prevail injustice be served i don't want

anyone to be charged for something

they're not guilty of and if they ruled

that you know according to the law that

whatever the nuance in the state law was

surrounding short barrel modded guns

that he's not guilty of having that gun

and carrying that gun then he shouldn't

be

charged and the issue is people need a

volume

the issue is anna that he didn't like

there's so much misinformation spread it

about this topic already like just

random people just trying to follow

don't even like actually know what

happened right so you brought up like

him bringing the gun across state lines

right that actually didn't happen right

that was revealed in court it didn't

happen but like i i would bet you like

80 of people actually think that

happened still we are in i don't know if

you guys know this but we're in the age

of information and right now we're on a

panel with a whole bunch of people

connected with light all right and sound

it's incredible and it's very fast and

every single person here who's like we

need to rain it down a little bit as

you're promoting yourself and

propagandizing yourself

shut the [ __ ] up don't critique the

[ __ ] mod

well no so

like look this is when you say oh well

we need to just shut up about all cases

right like all the justice system no we

need to put them on blast more faster

harder

every single time every time

we've been putting pressure on cases

that alienates people more from your

side than throwing bad

you're lying and nobody's going to join

your side why not guys exist okay so

false positives exist you're like crying

because lies exist like okay and

i'm not crying i'm saying i actually

want progressive change to happen in the

united states of america right that

isn't right that isn't happening if

you're trying to get there by peddling

misinformation and livestreams

right through you

yeah let's go ahead

we've been okay so charm we've been

televising multiple likes individual

cases about that all are like it's

always the case of the the decade or

whatever we got

how many cases what have we gotten out

of all of those cases

like literally what have we gotten from

televising those cases making it a

national spectacle what have we gained

from that actually any material where

are we here where we are now

benefits have we gained from making

these cases like a national whole wide

week-wide event what have we done

well i learned that an overwhelming

amount of americans are pro-kyle and

personally i think that's [ __ ] cringe

i'll tell you one thing i'll tell you

one thing first of all that's not even

material but okay listen listen you know

you know you want to know the real

material

my neurons are material that my neurons

are real

these corporations have raked in the

dough these corporations have raked in

all that

exactly corporations

not only think about things in every

court case every

it's just it's a it's a critique of our

society

i hate twitter too like i i don't know

like

the main the main thing is this instead

of people really going out there reading

and i didn't so that's why i'm not

speaking about it i don't know i only

saw a couple hours of the trial i didn't

read all the court filings there's a lot

of paperwork there there's a lot of

paperwork a lot of testimony i'm sure a

lot of screenshots images uh legalese uh

most people aren't capable of going into

that and this is why i said the justice

system needs to be reformed completely

because it's based on land land equals

justice every single person who is in

that theater a literal theater right of

people going is he guilty is he not

guilty right this theater lets them pay

rent okay they want that legalese they

want the attention they want all the

propaganda for their case for their

stuff they want to be trending on

twitter every single [ __ ] day because

i guarantee you more people are going to

be buying wisconsin cheese because of

written house murdering people dude

charmhold the issue isn't actually what

you're saying the issue is the opposite

of what you said right because the

opposite is actually true the majority

of americans agree with you

about kyle right that's the issue

the majority of americans agree with

and they're insanely dumb because they

don't know like 90 percent of the facts

of the case they don't know what

happened they didn't even watch the

videos all they did was read the [ __ ]

headlines of mainstream media articles

and they were brainwashed just like you

sound on this panel brainwashed

no real quick in comparison no no people

brainwashed a hundred years ago

again okay i have a question for the

entire panel right okay

like give me just another like a

percentage how much like how many people

do you think are still going to be

thinking about their in-house trial in

two to three weeks

like a percentage of people less than

five still be mad

i'll say five percent

i'll still be mad because i'll be a part

of him so so like what has actually

changed and let's say let's even if the

verdict was flipped like let's say he

actually did get convicted for murder

would people still be thinking about him

two or three weeks no because this [ __ ]

does not matter at all it's like like

it's just like it doesn't change

anything these are these are just

spectacles to get msnbc more money when

van joe goes to cnn and starts crying

he's getting like what he's like he's

[ __ ] building his brand as like a

protector he's just like [ __ ] like

what

years of trials that we've gotten

literally subscribe

all right now we're gonna we're gonna

stay on topic but we're going to shift

gears a little bit on the topic and

we're going to ask the following

question

why is it that twitter is

so invested in kyle written house

whether he's good or bad go ahead

anything except going out into the real

world organizing and doing real policies

they will find anything else except

absolutely those things oh you guys are

insane twitter isn't twitter is invested

in its own prophets and its own power

and therefore if it's not written house

it's donald trump's tweets if it's not

donald trump it's somebody else they

will find some topic somebody so that

they can generate the the the people the

views the content that they need to make

a fortune it's outrageous it's fun

it's an outrageous culture

yeah it's outrageous

it's outrage culture

and it's based or maybe some people just

actually care about the case all right

we are going to either

actually listen

yeah i need to say my last bit here the

reason why i think twitter's so invested

in this it ties back to the initial

discussion we're having that being that

the mainstream media and so many in

progressive or independent media have

lied about this case therefore they

cannot believe the outcome of this case

but i think if there was either like

people not focusing on this or the truth

was put forward from the start then

people wouldn't be losing their minds

over this

let me let me let me ask you a question

twitter what's what purpose does it

serve in terms of a function of power it

serves to atomize us it serves to

destroy communities it serves to isolate

us it serves for us all to be in our

little prisons we call our apartments

and homes and not to do what not to be

in community not to be out there

organizing in our communities having a

dance in our community have drinking

beers with our neighbors nobody does

that anymore everybody's invested in

their phone in their computers look at

us here

all right that's the whole thing chris i

want to take you out to get a beer

sometime all right we are go we are

gonna we are okay we are closing this

topic up and we are voting to to keep

not kick chat i'm gonna give you

one minute and a half to vote to keep

not kick the judges will deliberate and

we will decide who we consider to be the

winner of the round

begin voting now who to keep not kick

of this round

the critically thinking veteran henry go

ahead

i'm gonna have to go with chris vt this

time

luca

chris vt is definitely a worthy member

of the horde he's a winner

okay

all right chris tv is officially the

winner of the round

and in the bottom two we currently have

dario

and yankee tanky so chris tv

it's gonna be between dario and yankee

tanki

wait

wait is that true

yeah

wait no sultan is below me right no he's

not

sultan is not here because his

i'll explain it just

it's four percent for uh

actually yas four percent for yas

don't forget about sultan right now he's

gone

wait refresh us

refresh

armhole at the top baby

yeah

yankee tanky okay so

i it's neck and neck we already it's

flip of the coin

dario versus yankee tanky which one

chris tv

um

we're talking about there's a new poll

that we have in the chat the straw poll

forget about that one

my man yankee i didn't hear you speak

too much that round

i love you

all right yankee

wants you to shout yourself out and um

you know give some closing remarks

really quick

you're muted

you're currently muted

okay it should be working now correct

yeah

all right so i'm going to give my

closing remarks first i just want to say

uh this is one of those issues quite

honestly when it comes to written house

stuff that oh no not not on the topic

just like you know just final word final

thoughts

yeah

okay so my final remarks uh is that

thank you everyone for uh

giving me this opportunity to be here in

this debate i just wanted to thank uh

haas in particular for inviting me um

and i'm gonna give a quick shout out to

the john brown volunteers out here in

new york city doing the good work to

preach socialism to the masses um if you

want to follow us

uh you can follow us either on twitter

at jb volunteers instagram is also jb

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and we have a facebook page the john

brown volunteers uh my personal uh stuff

uh you can follow me uh on twitter uh

yankeetanky uh you can also subscribe to

my youtube channel where i uh put out

some content uh and i'd love to

have you guys follow me on there

all right thank you yankee thank you

good having you

based fine all right guys so sultan it

lives in

a middle eastern country where there's

not electricity 24 hours so his battery

actually just ran out on his phone so

that's why sultan is currently gone

but seven yeah um it's unfortunate that

he can't participate the whole time but

it's just a fact of life

and it is what it is but hopefully next

time you know we can go fund me him a

generator or something and he'll be able

to

go through the whole round okay so guys

for our next topic we are actually going

to discuss

we're not going to discuss by the way

we're gonna [ __ ] battle about

whether americans should vote for one of

the two major parties either the

democrats or the republicans should

americans vote democrat

shut the [ __ ] up

or should they vote republican or should

they vote neither the question is should

they vote for one of the two major

parties as the vehicle to realize their

goals for this country take it away

yeah so like at this point the only

thing that the people need to understand

that i don't think is understood as much

right is that the libertarian party is

not just a meme it's actually on the

ballot in all 50 states the party needs

to get some real organization behind it

because what has been happening through

the media has just been both sides play

in the middle for a long ass time and i

think that's where a lot of the takes

for people end up lying is somewhere in

the [ __ ] middle so instead of just

sitting here and just you know the

libertarian party is just a meme right

take a real look at it if it does

anything then bring the both two sides

back closer to the middle which is

exactly what we need as a [ __ ] nation

yeah i'm gonna

have to what's this

party

the what

what's the libertarian party it's the

first snake

a little snake oh megalodon wait do you

mean that's a hedgehog is it like a

hedgehog or porcupine a little snake

it's a porcupine yeah

yeah listen

yeah

yeah libertarian party anna is there's

the democrat party there's the

republican party and the libertarian

party right the green party before party

like some of these other ones they're

not really like in the system but the

libertarian party actually is the

communist party is not on the ballot in

all 50 states that is true that's why we

got to organize it get on the ballot

right

you're just going to be you're just

going to be reinventing the will with

that chris it would make much more sense

to take advantage of the infrastructure

right we were just talking about uses of

resources and infrastructure one of the

last topics about you know even if it's

just [ __ ] co-opting the libertarian

party to bring both sides back to the

[ __ ] middle because the media uh

through the political [ __ ] game has

only just created the the very

divisiveness that we're talking about

here on twitter so this all ends up

coming back around and the libertarian

party which anna wasn't aware of and

it's a thing now you know it'll lead to

some research i'm sure and uh you know

and then that's how like you you learn

what's in place to be able to use it and

then that's how you start to be able to

enact change on things

if the mods agree with you and vote for

you again

i'm going to un-ironically scream rig

until i get banned because

shut the [ __ ] up don't [ __ ] complain

about the mods continue not complaining

i'm completely [ __ ] charming i'll

stop thinking off topic

off topic

make a good argument

i'll actually i'll actually make it no

here's my argument he's completely

[ __ ] wrong because the entire reason

why bernie was so big and why he failed

was because he didn't make his own party

he didn't make the bernie crats he had

the ability he had the money he had the

people he had the most importantly the

movement for everybody to move together

to make a new party and [ __ ] the

democrats and [ __ ] the republicans and

here you are is like yeah

yeah throw your vote away yeah another

more libertarians guys no it's not

bernie sold his movement out and went

back to the democrats i still get taxed

and i'm pretty

i volunteered for bernie in 2016 and now

i get [ __ ] spam emails from lib

candidates who are running for some bum

[ __ ] position like yeah

like he's sold

like when

when chris reads he says that he sold

out the movement he's literally he

literally sold the [ __ ] donor rolls

and all that i live in vermont

vermont

we sold out all of us who worked hard on

the ground who said this is not about

bernie this is about a movement right

he's talking about it why

don't listen focus on what divides you

not what unites you this is not a

[ __ ] place where we all feel good

about each other and suck each other off

continue

here the thing that no one is saying

here which is what you guys need to

recognize is not whether you vote for a

third party or or one of the two major

parties we need to have a party that is

free of corporate control and by virtue

of that we can recognize that the two

major parties aren't those things uh but

our problems will not be solved until we

have a party that answers to the needs

of the american people rather than uh

corporate america

and that's why like it's important to be

to get money out of politics right right

the issue the issue with this instead of

continuing to like allow the

types of conversations to have

corporations be recognized as

individuals and have an individual

rights when we all know that that's

complete [ __ ] honky horse [ __ ] right

and there's no reason at all for the

corporation to have the same rights as

an individual person

so does anyone here disagree

with the view that you should not vote

for one of the two parties

i disagree i disagree

i'm trying

so actually everybody in here who's

advocating for right now in the united

states of america voting for a third

party is absolutely delusional because

there are structures in place right now

in the united states of america which

will make sure that there will never

ever realistically be a third party that

comes to power so your only way to

actually get meaningful change

progressive change or libertarian change

whatever you want ctv right the only way

is to go through one of the major

parties and i'll actually make the

argument because i did do some research

for this topic right

yeah but i think that's the difference

right i wait i didn't i didn't i didn't

finish my argument

if you actually care about promoting

third parties as a concept not just one

third party but third party says because

listen i come from denmark we have

[ __ ] 12 political parties if you want

that for the u.s

who the [ __ ] just left he just died

daario

what the [ __ ]

i was like ingrained in like just

listening and waiting and then like you

just [ __ ] i did a ctv i did a ctv

okay suspense it's a building oh i see i

see i'm glad i'm

if you actually if you actually want

to promote the concept of third parties

in the u.s you need to go through the

democratic party right because the

democrats have a vested interest in

promoting things like rank voice voting

like ranked choice voting which will in

turn give the ability for people to

actually vote for third parties at

elections right so if you actually care

about third parties you have to go

through the democrats because the

democrats have shown that they are open

to implementing stuff like rank choice

voting here's what i'm going to tell you

you're incorrect because even even the

most progressive elements of the

democratic party such as you know they

claim to be like alexandria

ocasio-cortez she was one of the three

founding board members of the justice

democrats and explicitly in their

mission statement one of their core

projects was to promote uh rank choice

voting from within a justice democrat

sort of uh you know committee in

congress

that all of which she is completely

abandoned by supporting hr1 which

actually hurts third parties chances of

having any sort of electoral success

significantly so they're actually

anti-third party now the same people who

used to support pro third-party things

jackson are you familiar are you

familiar are you familiar with the

system in maine how they how to do uh

rank choice voting there yes yes sure so

in the main so

notion that you put forward that

democrats have a vested interest in

having exactly i'm explaining why i'm

explaining why i'm explaining why listen

so in maine maine is to my knowledge

right now still i believe still the only

state in the united states which has

ranked choice voting for the state

primary congressional and presidential

uh elections right and when they

actually manage to implement this they

manage to dethrone the republican was it

the republican governor i think who was

there for i think what it was like 10

elections in a row it was held by

republicans and after they implemented

rank choice voting in the first round of

votes it went to the republican but the

democrat actually edged him out because

they implemented ranked choice voting

and now the republicans are trying to

repeal it because they see that once the

american people have access to stuff

like rank choice voting which again

gives the ability for third parties to

pop up it actually helps democrats but

it also inadvertently helps uh

third parties be able to get undervalued

and actually gauge the amount of support

that they could have amongst the

american people

because without

argument was

in new york city bro in new york city we

literally have ranchos voiding and we're

going to get a cop as mayor that then

ranked ranked choice voting doesn't mean

[ __ ] if you don't have the people behind

an actual movement if you have words you

get

let me tell you one thing the american

people are waking up you want to know

why

you think that we're delusional but the

real ones are that are delusional are

the ruling class why everybody knows the

democrats and the republicans both went

on the lolita express those of you out

there who know what the [ __ ] i'm talking

about know what's going on the ruling

class is involved in all sorts of crazy

[ __ ] up [ __ ] so chris chris i am no

all i'm saying is this they have lost

their mandate to govern that's it

chris

you said something now let me respond i

think you're incorrect because you said

that they have a vested interest in

pushing for rank choice voting because

it allows third parties to get on the

ballot i think the only reason why they

supported ranked choice voting is

because they wanted democrats to win the

governorship exactly other things

the other thing you have to recognize is

it's not just ranked choice voting hr

one hurts third parties in a myriad of

complex uh ways way beyond you know

preventing rank choice voting and and

here's the last thing i'm gonna say

here's the last thing i'm gonna say the

only reason why they allowed for ranked

choice voting in maine is because to my

knowledge they're only allowing it for

state and federal elections in like you

know district congressional elections

they don't allow local elections because

local elections is where there's a real

possibility for third parties to

actually have popular access and backing

to the ballot

let me just respond to what he said let

me just respond just one second let me

just respond

so jackson i actually agree with many

things that you said right but you're

kind of making my argument for me right

because if the sitting parties if what

they're doing right now to our knowledge

is they're trying to hinder the ability

for third parties to come up right it's

only making it harder for them right and

if we are somebody who wants to see the

ability for third parties come up right

you have to go through the powers right

now in place to promote those things

right and i'm not saying the democrats

are gonna promote third parties because

they have some obligation to want third

parties to come and dethrone them no i'm

saying abuse the fact that the democrats

want to get greedy and they want to

see third or see stuff like rank choice

voting because they think they can win

over republicans right abuse those

things and go in like super secret agent

co-op operation right and say like hey

listen yeah we agree let's do rank

choice voting but then you have the

ability to also promote your own

candidates right and i agree listen if

they don't do it for local elections

they should and you should

because

well as i mentioned with hr one

uh there are a bunch of uh you know

factors to elections and running

campaigns that fall outside of voting in

general like fundraising is a huge thing

in matching public funds with the the

funds that you raise in your campaign is

a big component of how elections operate

and how uh major parties disenfranchise

third party so the reason why they only

allow for third parties in state

primaries and federal federal elections

or state elections and federal elections

in maine is because there are those

fundamental funding and public funding

obstacles that disenfranchise third

parties you don't have those same

obstacles on the local city council

elections and county elections which is

why they don't allow choice voting in

those areas so democrats don't have a

vested interest in allowing third

parties to win they have a vested

interest in positioning themselves into

power

i'm not saying i'm not saying the the

rank choice voting is the key to

absolutely now you have a viable third

party in the u.s right i'm not saying

that i'm saying what is the way that you

can actually get third parties a bigger

chance to uh to set off right because

stuff like funding

when you're running political candidates

can you have an idea as well you need

that you need uh stuff like on the news

people need to be aware of you right you

need to pay for for media for all these

things right but the issue it's not it's

not the catch-all easy win we get ranked

choice voting right but what i'm simply

advocating for is that you use the

powers currently in place lobby them to

the best of your ability to give

yourself a better chance

here's the thing it's not just ranked

choice voting right and and you were

making the argument that ranked choice

voting will allow third parties to

potentially rise to power and that's why

we should vote for democrats i think i'm

just saying it's going to give them a

better

thing let me finish i think if anything

the failures of all these progressive

projects within the democratic party

over the past few decades have shown us

that the democratic party is not in fact

the solution to achieving third party

success but it's the you know it's the

slaughterhouse

that problems american people support

third parties i think that the

democratic party is not the answer never

will be but how are you talking about

people that they're not just throwing

their vote away though because exactly

what it seems like a lot of people do

feel that way that like well

yeah

i don't know

the fact of the matter is that both

[ __ ] parties right you can already

see is going to be [ __ ] two sides of

the same [ __ ] coin so if you know

you're throwing your [ __ ] vote away

then why not just [ __ ] vote

libertarian and get a different [ __ ]

result because the definition of

insanity is doing the same thing over

and over and over like for the last 15

[ __ ] minutes i've been listening to

and expecting a different [ __ ] result

which is where i come in from the top

[ __ ] rope and tell everybody vote

libertarian if you want something

[ __ ] different and if

is

i'm just trying to say why are you gonna

depend on two bourgeois parties when you

can literally be in like

liberating the actual working class

invigorating them getting the votes from

the working class

and in the working class

shut the [ __ ] up shut the [ __ ] up and

let him finish

why not

do like join communist parties like the

cpu say [ __ ] if they're not on every

ballot in all 50 states

join those parties

and then you will be a force to reckon

with in electoral politics all right

and chris tv do you want to say

something too yeah yeah you go out to

the charm

quit trying to tell us that you should

you should

try to change capital interest which the

democrat party will basically always be

beholden to they will never want to get

the [ __ ] ranked choice [ __ ] anything

they will never want to help us look

within ourselves and invigorate fellow

workers and that's yeah that's all i

have to say listen the issue the issue

is that the way that you're approaching

this issue yes is that you're

approaching it with the mind of a child

who's just learned about politics a year

ago right the issue is that if you want

to actually be serious about politics if

you want to make political change you

have to engage with the power structures

that are currently in place because if

you don't do that all you're doing is

larping with your friends in some

[ __ ] dumb [ __ ] i don't know local

community that can't even elect a local

representative right politics is about

power and the way that you get power is

you take the power from the current

institutions and you use the power to

get what you want right that's what i'm

saying i'm not saying hey listen you

can't join the communist party you can't

join the libertarian party that's not

what i'm saying i'm saying be realistic

join those organizations or guys listen

i do organizing i do organizing i do

i've done local politics i've done these

things right what i'm saying is

also engage with the powers currently in

place to give yourself the best chance

you can to make some change

boring this is what we need to do

hey

no no no it's next

next go ahead

so how about this this is all we got to

do all right again here i am bridging

ideas bridging gaps bringing people

together this is what we need to do

third party how about no party all right

this is what we do we take

cryptocurrency we take nfts and we

inject that into the system we delete

the parties and it's a [ __ ]

free-for-all all right i want an nft for

cp usa for a communist party for [ __ ]

haas sultan haas i want a governor a

[ __ ] michigan right i want to [ __ ]

get up there i want to go

[ __ ] it like everybody's like oh we

gotta go through the system or oh just

no third party guys don't worry green

party i actually want to make it fine

we've lost five generations

this time will be different

we need to pass all of this energy

and we need to push it forward and we

need to make our movements we need to

make a real positive real [ __ ]

movement all right let's go you need to

get massive workers strikes

but yes worker strikes

strikes listen crypto crypto is not

salvation crypto is enslavement to you

everybody is serious about the people

inside the matrix

finish everyone shut up and let him

finish

everybody shut the [ __ ] up right now and

let chris finish go chris

thank you thank you carmen listen crypto

who controls crypto the same corporate

bastards the same multi

multi national corporations what do you

think goldman sachs doesn't have crypto

what do you think morgan stanley doesn't

have crypto who holds the most crypto

all the big billionaires

listen listen listen crypto crypto is

also attached to material reality right

you're not gonna what are you gonna do

you're gonna transact to the farmer in

crypto get the [ __ ] out of here get that

in reality i'm holding up literally

elon elon another one deep state watch

out no listen you know what you have to

do you have to [ __ ] starve the

capitalists of their [ __ ] capital and

you know the only [ __ ] way to do that

is massive worker protests you got to

starve them of their country okay before

we go off topic

everyone shut up everyone shut the [ __ ]

up everybody shut the [ __ ] up so it's

clear to me that besides dario most

people here are for a third party but

what i want to throw as a curveball is

it seems like there are different third

parties that you guys think should be

the third party my question is how are

you going to make a viable third party

when everyone wants to make a third

party is divided on which party it

should be go ahead

well that's why i already pointed out

that the libertarian party is the only

party that's already on the docket in

all 50 states so if you really just want

to keep doing the same [ __ ] legwork

over and over and over because of a

[ __ ] label then by god you're just

gonna keep perpetuating the [ __ ]

problem because you're giving a [ __ ]

about the label instead of the fact that

it is

is because the libertarian party has

been on the ballot for how many years

and they fail miserably each and every

time the american people don't

and you don't ever come up with a

solution to actually [ __ ] do the

thing

libertarian parties one at a time this

is [ __ ] chaos one at a time one at a

time if you look at every major

successful third party either in europe

or latin america and there's been a

[ __ ] about them

shut the [ __ ] up there's been many that

have risen to power

they don't even have to say hey

let him finish

jackson finish many third parties that

have risen to power in europe and in

latin america over the past decade and

they have done it in the age of the

internet by utilizing the internet and

correct me if i'm wrong but the

libertarian party is not all that much

of a social media savvy party near as

the nor is the green party nor is the

peace and freedom party we need a new

party that resonates with the american

public that is built in the age of the

internet and is focused on using that to

their advantage

and if i should respond to chris tv

shut up chris uh chris uh veteran you

could respond to jackson then charmhole

yeah you say this and it still ends up

being the same [ __ ] legwork what ends

up defining what a party's politics is

has everything to do with the actions

that they start taking in the

legislature which is exactly why we end

up talking about why it is that the

democrat and the republican party are

two sides of the same [ __ ] coin play

in the [ __ ] middle

why is the libertarian party failed

the fact of the matter is is the

libertarian party is the only one on the

document

you have to work inside the governmental

system

i am

you're not yeah i am i am i am you know

what i'm gonna answer this [ __ ]

question so [ __ ] hard you're gonna

hear for the next [ __ ] year you

hear me now

we can't hear that you see that dramatic

pause for effect i'm glad you understand

jackson hinkle right go take it go take

a tinkle and you'll get an education

along the way now

the fact of the matter is is that the

libertarian party is the only party that

is on the docket in all 50 [ __ ]

states you have to go through the

governmental systems to register your

[ __ ] party and do all that [ __ ]

legwork so if the majority of the people

that end up populating the libertarian

party that has the ability to actually

start to define what the libertarian

party becomes the same as the democrat

and republican party has been being

defined by the very people and ideology

that they have brought into the party

which is how we end up with rhinos and

we end up with these other [ __ ]

right so you want to stay here and start

to keep doing the same [ __ ] work over

and over but the reality is is that's

just [ __ ] excuses for not getting

your ass up off the couch

hey hey everybody

can finally respond go ahead you keep

talking about keep doing the same

[ __ ] legwork and saying that the same

thing over and over again is insanity

bro the libertarian party is literally

the same thing if they they're just the

[ __ ] democrat and republican parties

with less voters that's literally the

sad thing because they're one bought out

by corporate interests already the [ __ ]

uh the koch brothers already have

[ __ ] uh investments in the

libertarian party so that [ __ ] is like

you want us it's like another bourgeois

party that you think that we can't

infiltrate but no it's like [ __ ] that

why would we what you're your nominee

literally in 2016 was a former like like

governor which was part of the two

parties and literally never changed

anything about either of his ideologies

it's like why the [ __ ] would we want to

vote for the same thing over and over

again it's like it's not really a third

party it's just because the reality is

is that the left and the right keep

going further left and right and at some

point you're going to have to have a

force that helps bring everybody back to

the [ __ ] middle your party isn't

centrist bro come on like

the libertarian party doesn't really

have any really like stringently defined

[ __ ]

parts i mean it's kind of it's kind of

like a [ __ ] super just whatever the

[ __ ] is left over from people that

aren't buying into the ideology that if

you vote for a third party you're

throwing your vote away so there's a lot

of [ __ ] in that category but

the libertarian party has extremely dare

out like [ __ ] policies that they're

trying to advocate for right they're not

the center between the democrats and the

republicans right i mean you can't

believe that like i'm not saying that it

is the center but what i'm saying is is

that if you get more people to start to

recognize the level of corruption that

is in both the democrat and the

republican party

jesus [ __ ] christ the level of it is

not there i wish you'd listen to all the

words to get used instead of just the

ones that take off that little clicker

in your [ __ ] ear okay now the level

of corruption because these two parties

have been the longest running in

american history correct because the

republican party only came around about

the time of lincoln and he was the first

republican presidential candidate so we

have these two parties the level of

corruption is in them is a lot more

embedded than what it is in the

libertarian party and if that party can

do nothing but rise up and destroy

itself and end up bringing the two

ideologies that are going more far left

and more far right back to the center

that at least serves some purpose for

the american people but it's going to

take the people to get to quit saying

every time third party gets broke

brought up that it's just a [ __ ] meme

you are so cringe it literally hurts me

that is not an argument that's

to my point earlier right especially to

uh respond to awesome chris vt

uh right so what we need is a digital

party a new party unironically kanye

2024

make an nft of kanye if you want a

movement if you want an actual third

party you want to really get things

rolling nft kanye 2024 get it moving in

and and the whole like oh but it's all

digital it's crypto is just passwords

that's it if anybody is going to try to

say oh cryptos money nfts are money no

nfts are cards nfts are just the little

save file

again if we need to make a party we need

a movement how do you get a movement the

[ __ ] up

it's get a passive figurehead nft his

ass push it forward and have somebody

heard it hey i mean his party 2024 kanye

okay yas what did you want to say

what the [ __ ] i literally okay honestly

when you started rolling out the crypto

take i thought you were just trolling

but like that like that was like that's

the funniest thing you've said on stream

but like actually

what the [ __ ] how is that helping the

workers movement at all

okay so so the issue

okay

and then we are going to put a halt and

we're going to shift gears go ahead

okay first off yes he was just trolling

because he obviously doesn't know what

crypto or nfts are right he's just

saying right

so so what i just want to say is what i

just want to say if people are actually

listening to what ctv is saying right

and instead of just like looking at him

through like your red eyes like oh he's

the enemy right ctv actually said some

things that are should be pretty

agreeable for everybody who supports

third parties on this panel right what

he's saying is you need to actually to

some degree put faith into third parties

yes the libertarian party or whatever

he's advocating for them right but but

in general you should put faith in them

and you need to try them and get on the

ballot and work within the system to

actually elect third party candidates

right and that should be agreeable for

everybody on here right and what i'm

saying is listen if the republicans can

[ __ ] uh elect [ __ ] conspiracy q

anon jewish space laser candidates

rights hey rainy back first there's

nothing there's nothing stopping

you from electing a communist or

whatever to the democratic party you

just need the support and you need the

systems

the thing that i think differentiates

your opinions everyone opinions here

versus my opinions on what we need in a

third party is you need to have a third

party that resonates with the policies

that the american people support and it

needs to be free of corporate capture

those two things are not true about the

libertarian party ctv for example you

said that we need to stop doing the

legwork and get on the we just need to

accept the fact that the libertarian

party is already on ballots well they've

been on ballots they're on 50 ballots

plus dc and they [ __ ] failed every

single time because no one resonates

with them because they have very very

very niche

stances on major issues and then they

also focus on weird [ __ ] issues that

no one cares about so we need a party

that focuses on the core issues of the

american public agrees upon

and uh supports the policies that the

majority of americans agree upon on

those issues right and i do think no i

do think sh let me finish i let you go

on your weird tangents you asked me a

question i just answering and i'm not

done yet i okay

you still ask a question

i don't even know if i ask you a

question i do think you did you said

right the people's party is going to be

that party because of the fact that they

are not explicitly you know progressive

or explicitly conservative they focus on

a wide swath of the main issues that the

american public care about and they

agree with the american public if you

look at polling on those issues and

they're focusing on social media in the

age of the internet many of the people

involved with it last thing i'm going to

say were the people who built the core

of the justice democrats and were exiled

from the group after it was co-opted by

the democratic party and they know what

it takes to build a successful political

movement

yeah but the reality of where we're at

is that the last hundred years of

[ __ ] history has led us to where we

are now the last 244 years of history

more specifically since the civil war

has led us to where we are now and the

explosion of [ __ ] government and the

mishandling of it and lack of statesmen

actually getting into office because the

politicians

we only have statesmen that govern this

country that's who governs this i let

you finish didn't i

go

so the majority of the the things that

have been happening has been politicians

getting up and [ __ ] grandstanding in

front of people saying oh if you elect

me i'm gonna give you a free [ __ ]

college if you elect me i'm to give you

free this free that we hear at every

[ __ ] election cycle this the [ __ ]

hasn't [ __ ] changed so

as us as rational people sitting here on

the ground they watched the bernie crowd

get [ __ ] burned and sold out down the

[ __ ] road right every other [ __ ]

crowd has been getting burned and sold

down the [ __ ] road at some [ __ ]

point so

you have to look at what's in front of

you and then start to work with other

people that's the only way you ever get

anything done is you've got to be able

to communicate to the largest swath of

people that is possible whenever it

comes to trying to get something done

and if you are sitting here saying that

the libertarian party the libertarian

party is just don't even [ __ ] worry

about it well all the work that got done

by people along the way to make sure

that it's on the ballot in all 50 states

and in dc which is a lot of [ __ ] work

just to get the party registered so you

can vote nationally with it right it's

just silly to just throw it away instead

of trying to get involved in all three

[ __ ] parties and figure out which

[ __ ] way he can actually [ __ ] push

things okay

everyone stop everyone shut up everyone

shut up one and i wanted to say

something then jackson can respond to

ctv for the final time and then we're

gonna maybe have closing remarks on this

topic and we're gonna ship gears anna go

ahead

well i was just gonna say i'm not sure

how like you could actually make that

type of um huge change i mean wouldn't

the same thing happen again like what

happened to the justice democrats

wouldn't they just it be co-opted again

since i mean

the

the system i mean we still have like

money still kind of running the system i

mean wouldn't the same thing just happen

again or like if we voted like a

communist in office or whatever like

i don't know how that would really

like make a huge change i guess i'm

skeptical so hold on anna just to be

clear are you responding to dario's

argument about putting them on the

democrat ticket

uh

yeah that too yeah okay jackson go ahead

can i respond to that yeah after

jacksonville ctv so you i've asked you

like four times now why you think given

the fact that uh

you know the the libertarian party has

been on 50 ballots plus dc that they've

still failed and you haven't been able

to provide an answer to that and the

answer is because they focus on weird

[ __ ] issues and the issues that they

focus on that are like resonate with the

american public they have weird takes on

those issues or vague takes on those

issues now the other part of the problem

with the libertarian party and it's the

reason why they're on 50 ballots plus dc

is because they have they're they're

heavily funded by the koch brothers

right and that's one of the things that

i said i don't want in a new third party

and i think the american people don't

want in a new third party is like you

know major corporate money big money in

these in these elections and in these uh

campaigns and [ __ ] and the libertarian

party that's the only reason why they're

on 50 ballots it's not because their

issues or their stances resonate with

the american people

okay all right

come on dario just to be clear about

what i think anna's saying she's

basically saying the democratic party

has a corrupting influence on people who

run on the ticket and that how are you

gonna prevent that so go ahead

yeah so so the way that you're gonna

prevent that is to build more support

behind the candidates that you want

right because ultimately what the

elected officials do is that they

represent the people right so if their

priorities shift towards like playing

politics or being corrupted or whatever

what is actually happening is most of

the time that the people's opinions

change that they are represented right

their constituents opinions change

because if they don't well then you vote

them out next election right wait dario

i don't want to get involved in this but

what would you say to people who say

uh aoc has sold out but her constituency

don't give a [ __ ] and we'll still vote

for her

i will say she hasn't sold out right

she's well what she's trying to do

that's a good one

right so so so the difference is what we

mean when we say sold out right so i

will agree right aoc is playing more

uh as you would say like she's playing

more politics right she's doing more

polish she's building coalition she's

built in power right but what she's

actually doing is that she's trying to

push the american congress and the

american people to the left right from

where it is right and now obviously she

isn't doing enough right she isn't

bringing him where we want right but

she's trying to push them in the right

direction with the power that she has

right so ultimately if that's what you

want well you want candidates

representing you that do these things

right and if they aren't pushing the

american people and the american

congress to the left then you want to

vote them out

wow

all right

so

all right here's what we're going to do

chris bt i'm going to let you have the

last word on this and then we're going

to vote

for the next topic oh i just i got one

thing if we're gonna go right there

voted wait did you say the closing quick

yeah yeah we're gonna get broken

statements

yeah that's what i thought too but it's

okay if we're not uh so i'll just oh in

mind with this uh chad remember who is

bringing you all the content it's your

man ctv are you sitting here arguing on

behalf of the libertarian party right

which i you know i'm conservative so

here we go just remember that when

you're you're voting

cope

all right

closing remarks i want to say i want to

say the main thing is somebody who's

who's run a campaign before as as a

member of of the party of communist usa

as a communist on the ballot first time

since the 90s last year the main thing

is this people people

do not know that there exists another

option and they have been lied to

everything has been concealed from them

so much mccarthyism so much of the deep

states work

in trying to conceal the fact that they

are the ones who have real power now

there is no way the democrats or the

republicans are any vehicle for change

none

none both parties are not only corrupt

they're evil they're evil let me tell

you one thing i found the second epstein

black book it was a business insider

article all right we can't we can't

dwell too much we got to wrap it up but

listen the main thing is this both

parties both parties are beyond or

beyond the pale they cannot be

we have to run third parties we have to

go to the masses we have to talk to our

neighbors we got to talk to the farmers

the workers everybody and that means

getting off your [ __ ] computer

getting off your [ __ ] cell phone and

getting out there and speaking to the

masses that's what you're wasting i

would buy your energy okay on all right

we're gonna give you i'm gonna give you

guys the opportunity if you want to have

maybe a one minute closing remark then

we're gonna vote and move on so we're

gonna start with anna you got our

closing remark or not

uh

no not really okay go ahead

digital party 20 we already heard that

[ __ ] uh

jackson closing remark

closing remark is democrats shown though

hope aoc in the squad have been co-opted

uh the other third parties show no hope

because the american people don't

resonate with them we need a new party

in the age of the internet that focuses

on the issues that the people care about

yes you got a closing remark

uh invigorate the working class and

vote for your local communist movements

because those are the only people

okay mods spam the link for the new poll

about who we're gonna keep and not kick

okay mods i'm gonna hover over their

name so you guys know let's get it now

go ahead moths good now here's

we judges have been deliberating

and we've come to an awkward scenario so

i'm gonna release my vote my votes for

jackson henry what's your vote

my vote's gonna be for dario

and luca what's your vote

uh my vote's gonna have to be for the

veteran

okay so we have never anticipated a

three-way standoff right so

we've thought about it and what we're

gonna do in this scenario right because

it's a three-way standoff is

we are going so we see that the two in

the bottom are currently dario and

charmhole

but since daario is voted by one of the

judge members we are actually going to

save him from being eliminated

and because of that

because jackson got the popular vote

jackson is actually going to decide

between anna and charmhole who were two

steps above

so

jackson is it charmhole or anna who's

going to be eliminated

person

who is meeting their demise

in this in the end of the stream

is going to be

carmel rigged absolutely

veteran again what a twist of events

charming

shut the [ __ ] up shout yourself out and

brief closing remarks

charmhole

twitch

tv slash charm hole

[ __ ] the mods pay your moderators

shut the [ __ ] up closing remarks hashtag

charmhole closing remarks thank you so

much for having us no for real cause i

think this is hella successful man all

right okay charmhole will be on the next

panel charmhole tell us how you felt

about being on this

invigorate okay now

we are moving into our lightning rounds

we're gonna pick up the pace it's gotta

get more heated more intense and the

topics are gonna expire much sooner than

before we are talking

10 minutes or even less per topic and

this is going to be the final crescendo

of the grati gladiator arena

battle and we're gonna throw out the

topics lightning speed and it is a

battle to the metaphorical death

you understand

now the topic

we are going to

watch you

destroy each other over is

is the climate change the singular

most important political issue facing

america and the world take it away

no

it's not

and the reason why it's not is because

client the issue with climate change is

just a build-on issue from something

else and the the thing that is the

actual issue is misinformation in the

media it's the even if you want to say

like the ruling class the way that they

control the people the fact that people

don't have enough agency in their lives

to actually make decisions that matter

that's the actual issue right if you if

you fix these things if you fix mix

information if you fix the mainstream

media

fix alternative media you can actually

make meaningful change in terms of

addressing climate change but before you

fix the overarching big issue you're

never going to reach you're never going

to change things like climate change

you're never going to change things like

[ __ ] uh healthcare you're never going

to make progress on anything

mario you were almost there but it's not

that it's capitalism that's what yeah

that's the route

that's the root of all ethics

come on we literally roots not

capitalism

none of the root of any of these things

that you left to

[ __ ] say is capitalism it it never

points to capitalism what it points to

right is an overreach of the government

and deciding measures of of currency

that it was never intended to do to

begin with that's where it all [ __ ]

comes from and then just continuing to

think that you can just spend the

[ __ ] money into [ __ ] oblivion

devalue the [ __ ]

all right

the topic is about

the topic is about climate change

listen climate change are we facing let

me let me maybe i should clarify are we

facing extinction

yes

yes yes 100 100 percent of the you are

we are everybody here is the earth is

right but it's so [ __ ] humor we're

not facing the extinction right no we're

not the population is actually going

down because people aren't [ __ ] as

much like jesus christ and one of these

things that you need to be worried about

is how much people are [ __ ] okay

since the population is going down it

has been for a while right they're

starting to be a little bit of a

comeback now but for a long [ __ ]

period of time people haven't been

[ __ ] making the babies ever since the

boober generation so population is not

even an actual problem that was a

problem you're really bringing up a

friend

that happened

like five years ago like that's nobody

[ __ ] cares about that but like

i know why why would pop be people

bother [ __ ] caring about all of the

facts of a case consider we're talking

about climate change and this is an

issue that would involve the entire

[ __ ] world right one of the things is

actually [ __ ] more heinous than

climate change is probably the fact that

our population has gotten so [ __ ]

high and we have been overfishing the

[ __ ] oceans we've been leaving tons

of trash in the [ __ ] ocean

to your climate change [ __ ] deal

right

watch what capitalism

and corporate greed is the main product

of people gotta [ __ ] eat right so you

can't blame the fact that people gotta

[ __ ] eat on the system that allows

for people to be able to trade things

through currency versus bartering every

[ __ ] thing this is

an extension of the conversation

do you know how much is thrown away how

much waste there is in the system an

inefficient system that only cares about

profits and not about oh if there's

anybody on this panel that is aware of

the amount of waste that's in the

federal system is this [ __ ] guy to be

sure it's this guy who feeds you because

i'm the farmer here i got sheep i got

goats i got pigs i got cows where do you

think that where do you think all that

stuff goes in the supermarket and then

it goes in the trash if it's expired

yeah you're you're just preaching to the

choir you're brothers

this is where an hour after closing time

they're going to throw away literally

pounds and pounds of the [ __ ]

fish that people overfish that's what

capitalism is it's like what chris was

saying like a few rounds ago about

excess we're living in a society that

literally is just everything is excess

like give homeless people that excess

food in like a bunch of

zinc everybody

silence

silence shut up i'm talking shut up i'm

talking one at a time seek veteran

finish your point then daario then yas

go ahead

yeah so the fact of the matter is there

are a lot of places and they take that

wasted food they do put it to good

purposes this is where if you're working

inside your local community you can

start to see the kinds of changes that

you want so sitting here bitching on a

[ __ ] panel about it and making a

point that [ __ ] my [ __ ] fifth

grader could have [ __ ] made right so

like none of this

whatever you're talking about climate

change just to get it back on topic is

at one i feel like that every single

time when you start talking about what

it is that someone considers climate

change right are we just talking about

the burning of fossil fuels and the

amount of co2 gases that end up in the

air because i remember growing up in a

time when they were talking about the

ozone layer all the [ __ ] time and we

haven't been hearing about that why

because we were able to [ __ ] make

changes i suppose right so covered the

whole recovered dumb buck

right okay so so here's the deal

since we and jackson hinkle has done a

[ __ ] good job of explaining any part

of what he meant by climate change

except he wasn't the one speaking yet

because he was too un-ballsy to [ __ ]

jump in from the start dario [ __ ]

took it away so

climate change has a lot of different

parts to it there's actually parts where

we are attempting to try to affect

climate by putting more [ __ ] gases in

the air by through a project that was

happening in new mexico so like at what

point do you start looking at this thing

as like the earth itself goes through

natural changes and this has been proven

through the recovery of ice cores in

different parts of the [ __ ] world so

that we understand how like volcanoes go

off it blocks out the sun here for a

while there's a whole lot of things to

consider when it comes to this thing

instead of just saying oh we need to

have a lot more government subsidies to

fund these [ __ ] electric vehicles

that are going to end up with diesel

engines at the [ __ ] pump site for

them to be able to get [ __ ]

electricity out of it and into their

[ __ ] batteries because they're backed

up by [ __ ] diesel engines has any of

you bothered to [ __ ] look at that no

but that's a part of the infrastructure

so you can produce the electricity from

the [ __ ] battery jesus christ

okay so let you said something about me

let me just respond um you brought up

the ozone the hole in the ozone layer

the reason why

that has uh it is r it is you know

reformed and we no longer have that

problem is because we recognize that

chlorofluorocarbons cfcs are the major

reason responsible for there being a

hole in the ozone layer we drastically

reduce the amount of cfcs that we

produce and we put regulations on them

therefore

the ozone layer was able to heal itself

right one of the biggest things that did

that was a change in refrigerant

everybody

let's uh ctv go and then jackson yeah so

that's where like my experience in the

navy when i worked with refriger the

halo carbons that you're talking about

where we had coast burns there to pour

them out of the [ __ ] air so it was

safe for us to breathe the air on the

[ __ ] boat and we changed our systems

from r114 over to r134 alpha because it

was a safer [ __ ] refrigerant to use

so there has been legislation that has

been put into place in the military and

equipment that we operate that has not

had uh those gases continue to go on the

air the same thing with lady gasoline

right there was a time where we had

leading gasoline now we have unleaded

gasoline so like you're saying these

things and yet you haven't justified the

billions and billions of dollars for

these [ __ ] wind turbines or electric

cars or anything else

no no no so i i'm just gonna briefly

address this and then we're going to

move on to the main argument i was going

to put forward you said there was a hole

in the ozone layer now we don't hear

about it and you use that as an example

surrounding climate change as if like

this is just going to be another thing

that you're saying that i didn't know

anything about it i've been finished

talking that we hear about is a crisis

then it's just gonna disappear on its

own when in fact with the ozone layer we

addressed it through recognizing what

the root causes for the depletion in the

ozone layer works hold on and you just

one second one second i'm gonna cut you

off i'm gonna go pee very very quickly

very quickly uh henry and luca please

take over with the moderation i'll be

right back i'll go pee

pinned on a person

let me finish talking let me finish

talking

you just acknowledge that in your own

personal life you saw how that policy

played out in you know solving the issue

with the ozone layer with climate change

we have three major industries

transportation energy

and agriculture which are the root

causes of most the emissions we see

the drastic increases in parts per

million of greenhouse gases that we see

in the atmosphere today which are

causing the dramatic increase in global

temperature averages so you say that we

see like overall changes in climate over

generations and over errors and [ __ ] but

like we're seeing such a dramatic

increase in global temperature averages

that is directly a result of the

greenhouse gas emissions so this is not

something that's just going to go away

on its own we need to address it and in

eliminating capitalism and replacing it

with something that focuses on the

social needs of the people is how we're

going to address it

yeah but the reality here is is that

whenever you just continue to like co2

gases are inherently different from

halogenated halocarbons right

so so yes since

ozone depletion greenhouse gases are

what causes the the whole uh climate

change okay so let's slow it down just a

little bit okay so there's a difference

between halogenated halocarbons right

and co2 they are different at a

molecular level because halogenated

carbons start breaking down o3 which is

your ozone layer right so

since we understand this attempting to

try to tackle the problem of co2 which

is something that is naturally producing

the environment on its own and captured

by plants right we produce co2 all

animals on the [ __ ] planet produce

co2 right cows and shits produce [ __ ]

methane and co2 right there's a whole

lot of the [ __ ] in the [ __ ]

in the [ __ ] ground in the air it's

[ __ ] everywhere right the only way

that you could begin to tackle this

problem would be to start taking care of

the oceans because the oceans are the

thing that end up cleaning up most of

the [ __ ] co2 and helps mix it around

like blue whales for example do a lot

right through their [ __ ] diving up

from the deep and coming up to the top

to mix the [ __ ] waters and help mix

up the [ __ ] phytoplankton to keep the

kid that gets [ __ ] made up on the

surface and brings that [ __ ] back from

the deep and up that's how you can start

being able to take care of these things

it's not tackling it with wind turbines

that end up killing a large swath of

bird populations and it's not with these

electric vehicles which while i think

are a good idea as a niche thing trying

to put them out to the masses of people

that still have jobs and everything else

to do and to make it a hell of a lot

harder for them to be able to move is

not the best way moving forward

so i i didn't necessarily

let me just finish addressing his point

i didn't necessarily say that wind

turbines or mario goes next after that

all of our problems but what you have to

recognize i agree with you the oceans

are a big part of this right uh

if you have a system that is focused on

eliminating all of these carbon sinks

that we do have and by virtue of that

carbon then finds its way into the ocean

and causes ocean acidification and by

virtue of that causes a whole host of

other issues like uh the the changing of

ocean temperatures which only

exacerbates climate change um those are

all interconnected and it stems from the

same root cause of capitalism right um

veteran wrap it up quick and then darya

is going to go

yeah so quick right it's not the system

of capitalism is not the problem right

crony capitalism and spending money that

you don't actually have is in fact the

problem mismanagement of these things

this is where i was talking earlier

about the difference between statesmen

and politicians and that right there is

where a lot of the route ends up coming

into like how government can be used to

enact a certain good rather than

allowing the road to hell to be paved

with good intentions

dario go ahead yeah sure so

so i can actually i actually agree with

both of you to some extent on unlike

some of the things that you're saying

but the issue isn't really capitalism or

socialism communism what you want to say

right the overarching issue is that

people do not have the ability to care

about stuff like the climate right and

the reason why they don't is because

their basic necessity necessities their

basic needs aren't being met right if

you look at studies you can see that

over 50 percent of americans wouldn't

spend one dollar a month to fight

climate change one dollar over 50 of

americans wouldn't and why is that well

it's because they are living in a

[ __ ] consumerist nightmare right

because they always they constantly need

new things because they're living in a

system which perpetuates and allows them

to do these things right that's the

issue the issue isn't quite well the

issue is climate change right but the

solution isn't to just focus on climate

change advocacy because if we did that

we would already be doing something

about it right it's like one of the

biggest issues whenever politicians

speak but why do people not care it's

because they don't have the things that

they need in order to survive so that

they can hold on to does anyone know

where chris vt went where did chris vt

go

i don't know

where did he go he's gone

i think he said earlier that his disc oh

i know that was charming

well i don't know he's strawman the [ __ ]

out of me though i didn't say anything

about wind turbines i didn't say

anything about electric cars that was a

massive straw man what happened to chris

vt does anyone know where he went so far

i think he went to the bathroom

oh he did

oh

he just left

did he just leave

i liked him all right well

if you don't respond in three minutes

he's not allowed to come back

he left

all right continue

yeah sure i i j the issue the issue is

the issue is that people don't have

their base necessities met right the

issue is education the issue is

misinformation the propaganda all of

these things like well listen capitalism

right to some degree there are

capitalist systems in place which make

it so that you can't effectively deal

with something like climate change right

because climate change or or polluting

or these things are an externality in

the capitalist system right which means

that companies don't necessarily have to

care about these things unless we make

them care right through stuff like the

government

through stuff like mobilizing people

making sure that everybody is aware and

holding companies accountable right this

is the issue the issue isn't climate

change necessarily in itself the issue

is that we don't have an ability to

mobilize people and give the power to

the people to fight stuff like this

stuff like global disasters they don't

necessarily have to care about

day-to-day

exactly and that's why you need to end

capitalism so the people's basic needs

are met and then they'll start caring

about [ __ ] like the climate and on top

of that [ __ ] the [ __ ] the electric

vehicles those are cringe i agree with

that part but let's just have

nationalized nuclear energy

something that is actually clean and

there's ways to dispose of it and that

can actually power a [ __ ] a [ __ ] ton we

are going to move on as soon as you

finish your point go ahead

oh yeah like like the wind turbine is

like okay we got it they're [ __ ]

noise pollution i didn't care but like

we used like the ussr had [ __ ]

nationalized

nuclear plants and that [ __ ] powered so

much even back then so we just need them

here in america and that's my point

can i just say i like the person who's

called no more danes please so guys

there is there there is a person who

left chris vt was on this poll we didn't

know he was going to leave so ignore him

and we are putting the poll now vote who

do you want to keep not kick go okay so

i'm going to announce

who i think

performed the best

and i am voting for dario henry go ahead

i think there's a pretty strong showing

by the veteran this time so i'm gonna

vote for him

luca

now you're muted you're muted

i'm going to go ahead and agree with

henry i think the veteran gives a strong

showing you guys need to get your [ __ ]

together all right now uh the veteran so

chris vt's gone

and dario was voted by one of the judges

which means dario is immune

that leaves yas and an avoir what is it

going to be

veteran

well

i'm going to be honest

anna you're going to have to stay honey

y'all get your ass out of here

fatality for us

unbelievable fatality

uh yes

do you have any concluding remarks shout

yourself out

and uh give us your thoughts on critical

thinking veterans

brutal elimination

nah i came for him pretty hard but uh

this was mad fun and uh

thanks everyone for letting me be here

uh you can find me at twitch

uh yeah right and it's spelled

y-a-h-r-g-h-t

um yeah and i'm looking forward to

coming back and

yeah let's show this one thanks for

hosting

no problem looking forward to see you

again sometime

bye-bye

okay

we are entering some dangerous territory

the crowd is getting thinner and thinner

and the rounds are going to last even

shorter we're looking at about less than

10 minutes

the next topic is

which administration

given the so far in biden's term has

been objectively

more dangerous for america and humanity

as a whole

donald trump's administration

or biden and kamala you can also give

your thoughts on the future prospects

for example of a kamala presidency

go ahead everybody

oh this is going to be real interesting

listening to anybody on the left want to

argue that during donald trump's

presidency where we had some of the best

peace that we had across the world right

versus uh

joe biden's botched pull out out of

afghanistan this is going to be

hilarious

y'all sit back and listen for the memes

because it's going to be [ __ ] great

i actually want to hear from the

communists on the panel what do you

think

and i might be the only communist left

am i okay sure

um i think that that's a communist it

just depends on the day of the week

all right anna will you give your two

cents then i feel like i've been talking

a lot you go

i haven't been paying much attention to

the biden presidency except yeah that

botched afghanistan

that was pretty that was yeah that was

pretty she didn't even know about the

libertarian party all but she knows

about that [ __ ] all right

a woman wouldn't know about her right i

was hoping trump was worse i i i still

think trump was worse though because of

like all of the racism and everything

like all the um

yeah

okay

like violence like the

yeah yeah sure i'll take it so so

obviously while i am by no means oh [ __ ]

jackson i can hear myself

you can

from your mic yeah

i think it's better now okay

yeah obviously i'm not a i wasn't a big

fan of biden in general right i wasn't

like biden wasn't my candidate or

whatever

by

i would struggle to find any arguments

or any metrics by which donald trump's

presidency would be any better than

biden's right say what you will about

biden but like the corona relief

packages the child attacks credits the

the deal that is currently getting

passed like all of these things right

while these are not nearly enough and

not what the american people need it's

at least moving in the right direction

right it's giving the people some

leniency in terms of dealing with covet

it's trying to build up some

infrastructure while it is not enough it

is certainly better than what happened

under donald trump under donald trump

the american people got absolutely

nothing you can say to pull out of

afghanistan but that's just biden

finishing the job from what donald trump

should have done right donald trump was

a coward didn't get it done biden got it

done except he did right we had the

lowest unemployment across all spectrums

right when it came to the people right

being able to get out there get a job

manufacturing was on the way back we

were cutting out cheap made steel from

[ __ ] china there was a whole lot of

things that were going in the right

direction and frankly since biden's been

in office all these coped relief

packages that you're talking about why

are they not that much better they're

not that much better because trump

already set him up to begin with and

then that's where the american people

had to start having a real conversation

about the federalization of things and

uh the things being controlled by the

states and thank god donald trump was

[ __ ] president and we had governors

like desantis right making the decision

that like these this decision when it

comes to health care is still up to the

individual and then therefore not having

to violate people's [ __ ] hipaa rights

you know so like at every single turn

whenever it comes to like how donald

trump's presidency would have been

different if joe biden would have been

in office we would have saw a complete

totalitarian regime come in and try to

tell people that they have to have all

these things yada yada but since we're

on so far on the back end of it and

we're not in the crisis of the moment

they don't have the justification to be

able to pull said power but if they did

you damn right they would have had

because every single time that there's

been an opportunity to do that they've

done that and history has shown us that

understand my my my words on this and

then i have to go pee so let me just get

out what i want to get out and then i'm

going to go pee i think that biden is

objectively worse and has continued and

expanded upon a lot of trump's policies

and really important ones in my opinion

he increased trump's uh defense budget

he's not re-entering the iran deal uh

he's increasing and expanding upon uh

his immigration crisis at the border and

kamala harris damn right he's expanding

on it he's making it [ __ ] much worse

let me just get this out okay then you

can talk all you want uh he's illegally

bombing syria afghanistan somalia iraq

uh

backing you know bombings of targets in

yemen and iranian

iranian proxies and [ __ ] uh he's still

selling weapons to the uae and to saudi

arabia and doing the naval blockade

around yemen which is causing the

largest mass famine in the world right

now

he's increasing military aid to israel

especially amid their assault on gaza

he's continuing ice deportations he

continued trump's mandatory minimum drug

sentencing policy he didn't hold mbs

accountable for the jamal khashoggi [ __ ]

uh he's placing new sanctions on

nicaragua on venezuela on cuba on syria

he's sending green berets to mozambique

he issued 2 500 oil drilling permits on

public land and tribal land during the

first two or six months of his

administration this week he's doing the

largest offshore oil drilling auction in

u.s history uh he completely botched

trump's afghan peace deal and the pull

out from afghanistan

um

i'm gonna ask the question your name

enough bullet points

veteran now is coming to the defense of

biden go ahead

i'll wait till hinkle gets back okay doc

anyone else want to say anything until

jackson gets back

sure so

the issue is the issues that you can't

you have to compare apples and apples

right you can't compare apples to

oranges right you can't say well these

situations under bryden's presidency

biden did a certain way right and you

you can't say biden is worse than trump

because he continued stuff that trump

did right that that's a non-sequitur

that's an illogical statement right so

if he's continuing things that trump did

biden isn't worse than trump right he at

in at that point he would be the same

right so what you have to do is you have

to compare policies that were passed

that they advocated for right and if

we're doing that we can look at well

what is the infrastructure bill what is

the

executive decisions that biden did right

at the start of his presidency which

let trans people get back into the

military right something that trump uh

banned them from doing right so there's

a bunch of stuff that biden has done

which moves the country in the correct

direction right now that doesn't mean

that biden is doing everything right

right and as jackson pointed out no no

dario i don't mean to cut you off but uh

jackson is back and it is

uh veteran's turn so

so jackson

since you got to go drain your lady hole

right uh let's get into this all right

what is

this uh auction of an offshore

oil rig supposed to be

why is that a big deal

why is it a big deal or why do i think

it's a problem

i did big deal goes either [ __ ] way

right if i need to start explaining the

english language to you then we're gonna

have to have a different conversation

right so why is it a big enough deal for

me to sit here and listen to you rattle

off 20 [ __ ] bullet points right in

which you think that i'm not going to

sit here and scrutinize you on the

[ __ ] thing so why is it a big [ __ ]

deal

well smart ass it's a big deal because

it is the largest

auction in us history that's what most

people would interpret uh you know your

your the answer to be what is the what's

the big deal of it but the reason why i

oppose it is because i don't think we

should be focusing on

um more more production of you know uh

you know offshore drilling permits

because offshore drilling causes a ton

of pollution in our oceans we know that

it's very risky i would rather open up

permits for uh oil drilling on on public

lands than out on uh ocean you know

offshore oil drilling right so there's

there's arguments for and against on

both sides but the fact of the matter is

is that biden since these games

done everything to to

increase the price of gasoline at the

[ __ ] pump right now right shutting

down [ __ ] oil production here which

we were an energy independent nation and

we are not now because of the [ __ ] that

he's done since he's been in office so

you want to sit here and point out one

thing point out 20 [ __ ] things but

the fact of the matter is is that the

everyday person is filling the [ __ ]

strain on their wallets

putting gas in their [ __ ] car

prices of [ __ ] has gone up help just the

[ __ ] this was one thing that was

[ __ ] amazing to me my rear axle for

my truck that i just replaced here

recently right went up by a hundred and

fifty dollars in three [ __ ] months

three [ __ ] 150

and they got a [ __ ] thing to do right

with it being a different material it's

got everything to do with the price of

things and the inflation is going up and

it's right there in front of the [ __ ]

people and has everything to do with the

problem with this administration so i

think i think yes the biden

administration does is objectively worse

than trump in many ways and i wanted to

lay there i'm glad you agree with my

heart

because people are just operating all

right

debates but here's what i'm going to say

last thing i'll say

uh there's many reasons why we are in

the inflation crisis we are in partially

biden's fault

but i think

most people can recognize it's not just

his administration that's causing this

inflation crisis

okay

we are going to vote who to keep not

kick so we can move to the next

topic uh i'm gonna give you guys a

measly one minute to vote hurry up and

[ __ ] vote everybody the voting has

concluded

uh

henry what is your result

another w for the veteran

luca

i'm gonna say it's w for dario this time

i must say that i'm gonna be tipping it

for the veteran

which means despite being in the bottom

two

dario has been

saved but let's see keep getting away

with it

that means anna will jackson won the

popular vote which means he cannot be

eliminated

and it seems that anna

is that fair

veteran

i'm gonna let you choose between dario

and anna

well

do it i i i hear you i hear you right

and the fact of the matter is is that

there is a part of me that does in fact

respect democracy and when i'm looking

at the votes here and i just want to

make sure i refresh one more time

to see how many votes we got out here

uh we got to count to 41 to 26 so yeah

dario bro

democracy man we live in a republic we

live in a republic dude not a democracy

it's true it's true bro but there's

there's a vote and the vote should

matter this is why ctv is in fact the

people's champion

unbelievable

what a plot twist

okay daario you want to shout yourself

out and give some conclusion results

listen i'm just surprised i actually

made it this far in front of this crowd

i

think i was the most unliked person in

general

from every single round but hey i'm here

for it thank you very much for

participating it was fun um we had some

decent discussions i believe so yeah

that's a win all right goodbye dario

thanks dario

all he left

okay

now it is getting

very very

dangerous

the first

topic

of the last

this is the second to last lightning

round it's getting heated and intense

now

what system is better for america

socialism or

capitalism

take it away

capitalism is obviously the best system

for america because our system now

operates with a certain amount of

capitalism and a certain amount of

socialism so if you don't have the

people producing the capital necessary

to be able to collect it from taxes in

order to be able to pay for the

socialism you don't have a system that's

going to be able to pay for itself which

is why you have to have capitalism right

and then through capitalism you can then

uh take that uh taxes that are earned

and by and other monies given to

charities or tithing in churches etc etc

they can make its way back into the

community right and then enact the type

of socialism that you would want uh

at some points through government

through charities through private

organizations to be able to help out

your local communities and your national

communities

i think uh

i don't know i think this topic's kind

of dumb but i think socialism uh

obviously is better i mean if you look

at like the modest social democratic

reforms we've even had in this country

those are the only like popular things

in this country uh medicare is the most

popular uh

public policy in this country according

to the american uh voters

and if you look at mostly like the new

deal reforms that were instituted these

modest social democratic reforms that

were pushed uh in large part due to the

socialists and communists that were

advocating for much more uh you know

forceful and vigorous uh you know

socialist policies those are some of the