EXPLOSIVE Debate Night w/ Politics Discord!

2022-09-11
all right guys we're gonna just go
straight into this all right I don't
have time to explain we're doing a
politics another AMA but this one's
going to be more debate oriented yada
let's do it
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okay so while I'm doing this
um
thank you very very very much for coming
on again we had a lot of fun last time
and the user base is very upset right
now
um so I've been following them after the
last half hour or so yeah yeah I'm glad
I had to shower and stuff so I didn't
know I was gonna be late but my bad no
it's no problem at all like not at all
um hey uh so um for people who don't
know who you are who are stupid and
haven't subscribed to the YouTube
channel
um can you maybe give them like a
rundown of uh what you do
um you know everything you know your
whole ideology your whole thing right
tell them about infrared yep so
basically infrared started out as a
media Collective
um
and I'm the main guy who streams and
stuff
others make videos you can watch our
infrared vision videos uh for more
education but the basic premise is we
want to be Marxist leniness in the age
of multi-polarity in the post-covered
world and what that basically means to
us is that we think those two things
multi-polarity in the post-covered world
have rendered the American and Western
left completely obsolete and you know
we're we're basically anti-woke uh
Communists with a Capital C
so because of that you know we're not
we're not really associated with
leftists per se
but we do maintain you know a communist
position if you will
okay
um so we actually had voshon yesterday
um
and you came up a little bit during that
but how would for you know people in the
audience who maybe aren't all that
knowledgeable about all that's going to
suck
um how do you differentiate yourself
from somebody like vosh who calls
himself a Libertarian socialist
uh there's really nothing in common with
I mean I have a lot more in common with
Ron Paul Libertarians and Maga
conservatives and a person like vosh you
know wash
he's completely aligned with the status
quo with the Deep state with the
establishment with the Democratic party
you know the the same unipolar world
order that you know we're positioning
ourselves against he's an anti-populist
I mean I mean boss you know a lot of
people use Walsh as a reference point to
explain what the opposite of me uh looks
like in terms of like ideology
and possibly physical appearance as well
but um I won't get into that but uh you
know
vosh to me is
you know he's always joking oh yeah I'm
the CIA but it really is what it is it's
like the Rockefeller CIA left oh JC
Denton thank you so much man I
appreciate you let's go
um
yeah he supports NATO he supports the
CIA supports the FBI I mean basically I
I don't know it's kind of crazy right
but Marshall slenderness are supposed to
be kind of like revolutionaries where
they're against
the status quo
although he calls himself a socialist
he's a pro status quo so he's kind of
like a I don't know what you call that
he's not really a quote unquote
revolutionary so I mean it's like I have
nothing there's really nothing in common
with a guy like Bosch
awesome thank you that's very useful
um so we are going to get started I've
guys so if you want to watch Haas and
he's looking exceptionally handsome
today
um the his stream is the main
announcements um so if you want to watch
the AMA there as you can see him while
he's kicking your ass uh that's where
you'll be able to find it okay
um we're gonna jump right into it die
along you said you had something you
could pin them on uh you're up go for it
all right thank you sorry I'm in a
thunderstorm right now so if you if I
cut out at any point just let me know
all right so uh Haas so I'm glad you
brought up right now that you know
you're a communist who finds uh you know
more similarity instead of vosh with the
Maga conservative because recently in
one of your live streams you know you've
coined the term to describe yourself as
a Maga communist and this comes along
with you also announcing you know
support for Trump and at least some
capacity so my question to you is is how
do you not see the contradiction and
claiming to both support Trump and
simultaneously be a Marxist leninist and
so are you blind to how diametrically
opposed vote Trump and Marx really are
or is there some ulterior motive to
making this statement
um so I wouldn't compare Trump to Marx
okay Trump is a political leader and
he's a representative of a movement he's
representative of a populist movement
that wants you know uh that wants some
that somehow recognizes that the current
government that we have and the current
status quo that we have doesn't
represent real America so it's a
populist movement that wants to return
to some kind of real America so that's
what he represents in American politics
right now that's what that's his symbol
right being a Maga communist which is a
beautiful term and I'm going to continue
using that so thank you for bringing
that up
um that does not mean you blindly
support Trump and all whatever Trump is
doing Trump is a political figure he's
embroiled in all these you know fbis
after everybody's after him they got
blackmail on it man Trump's probably
done I don't know but Maga you know
magaza the movement of Rural America
real America by the way not just White
America it's also Latino America and now
growing numbers Black America
everybody's uniting real America right
against the liberal Coast so
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I don't know how that happened okay this
is the advice is trying to shut you down
already
so so you know you gotta understand
you know Marxism leninism is a tool it's
a tool that's supposed to serve the
working class and the people more
broadly how do you actually understand
the contradictions we're dealing with
right Marxism leninism isn't going to be
here and dictate the terms of struggle
so is Trump a communist is Maga
communist right now no they're not right
but that's that's our struggle if we are
human beings in America and we want to
revolt against this satanic Elite and
this you know globalist deep State and
the ruling class and the monopolist
ruling class and the bankers and shit I
mean that's what we're dealing with
right politics server it is me Brittany
Albert and yes it has been hot
sorry about that
oh yeah no problem no problem
um so yeah I mean you're saying there's
a contradiction uh I just think you're
kind of confused about what we're
talking about here
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he was in a thunderstorm so that might
be
uh delongy there can you speak
yeah yeah sorry I was muted I I didn't
have permission to speak okay I was
completely muted right there yeah well
okay so to address that point I mean
Trump and the Marxist leninist movements
it's one thing to align with another
movement that you know might have some
core principles in common and try and
work through like a stat a status quo
that's different than currently now but
you see they're completely Trump and his
movement are completely different there
is they're diametrically opposed to one
another uh Trump Donald Trump's
relationship to wealth is based on
ownership of land rather than labor I'm
he he
willing and capital than actual wage
labor that as much I mean completely
Trump would classify more under
is that it are you still there
die there
yeah I think I think this guy's having
issues with the yeah can you guys hear
me yeah yeah it keeps on it keeps on
muting me for some reason I have no idea
why it keeps on beating me off
go now
all right you want me to respond or you
you have more to say
yeah what did you hear me what did you
hear I heard you say that you know the
problem is that you can't unite the
Marxist line in this movement with the
Maga movement because Trump is a real
estate
owner right and he's uh he that's where
he gets his wealth from
well yeah yeah and he inherited a lot of
his money which goes against Marx and
yeah it's a true organization they're
they're prime a source of income is real
estate I mean he owns hotels Resorts
casinos a few things she cries on land
ownership over any sort any sort of
marxist concept so I just don't see any
connection there to how Trump could find
his way into any Marxist movement
okay I think you're a little confused so
there's a few things I want to very
quickly explain to you and I don't want
to take too much time doing this okay so
the first thing is that there's no marks
just letting this movement in the United
States and there's no such thing as a
Marxist leninist movement there's a
working class movement there's a
populist movement there's an
anti-colonial movement or an
Anti-Imperialist movement where people
are fighting occupiers or whatever I
mean these are real movements these are
the real things that get people to wake
up and you know struggle against
whatever like that's a real movement a
movement just based on an ideology does
not exist and has never existed in
history every single instance in which
Marxist leninists have ever taken power
in history wasn't because they created a
movement based on their ideas but
because they correctly assumed
leadership of existing movements you
know that that were already like there
right so that's the really important
thing I have to emphasize the second
thing
is that
I want to explain how American politics
works very briefly American politics
works like this there is one ruling
class there's one monopolist ruling
class consensus okay and there's a deep
state
and every single time a president gets
elected it is on the basis of gaining
the approval of that deep State and
gaining the approval of that consensus
the consensus also stems downwards to
Academia the mainstream media you know
this the ngos and Civil Society created
by Rockefeller money and George Soros
and all this kind of stuff and this is
the consensus of so-called American
democracy so it's like one big Club just
like George Carlin said in this one big
system okay now you can talk about Trump
his source of Revenue being a a real
estate guy but that's not new that's the
whole ruling class in America right so
what actually separated Trump well what
separated Trump is that he was you know
for personal reasons probably he was
exiled from the ruling class
he was an outsider as far as they were
concerned but he still had a shit ton of
money so he used that money to fund the
campaign and ultimately generate from
the ground up give an opportunity for a
lot of these populistic sentiments to be
given a voice that were outside of this
big club and that's the only reason Maga
is relevant the reason maga's caused
such a Ruckus isn't because Trump is a
you know he owns real estate the whole
ruling class owns real estate so why is
Trump a big deal what makes them
different what makes them different is
that he for he put into words or he put
into expression he became the symbol of
you know people who didn't have a voice
in this country for a very long time
sentiments that didn't have a voice in
this country for a very long time
so it's not about agreeing with Trump
it's about recognizing his significance
it does again I have to emphasize it's
not about Trump you know Trump
there's a lot of things I'm against
Trump in terms of policy as far as he's
concerned right
you know there's a lot of things he did
that I'm super you know he killed
suleimani all the things he compromised
with Israel I'm super against that but
why is he causing such a ruckus
in the United States of America why are
we on the brink of civil war is it
because of all those things no you have
to take things at the level of why
they're significant
so you know it's it's about how Trump
created a counter hegemonic force in the
form of the Maga movement the Maga
movement is not the same thing as Trump
he's just the symbol and he's right now
the figurehead of that movement
and what I want to do as amalga
communist is I want this movement to go
beyond Trump I want it to go beyond the
narrow confines of the Republican party
in Trump and I want to turn Maga into
the you know the the soil the seed you
know of a third party or some kind of
alternative to both the Republicans and
the Democrats and a real party of the
working class which is not going to get
its money as you pointed out
from a guy like Trump because it's not
just because Trump is a he got his money
as a as a member of the ruling class
it's also because people like Trump can
get arrested people like Trump the FBI
can go after them people like Trump
their finite mortal men if you create a
party of the working class which pools
all its resources collectively together
you know small donations that's what's
really going to build a huge movement
you can't just take out one person and
the whole thing collapses you need a
party of the working class that's the
only thing that's going to keep the
flame of the Maga movement going because
people like Trump they can get rid of
that guy right and by the way we don't
even how do we trust Trump we can't
really trust them either because he has
to make so much compromises with so many
different people so that he won't get
locked away or killed or whatever right
so
yeah I think you're a little bit
confused about where I'm coming from
with the Maga communism thing
okay well you're making it sound like
I'm saying like what you're saying is
that that there might be a few that I'm
trying to say that there's a few social
differences between like a
socio-politically between the Maga
movement and Marxist leniness as a whole
but that's completely untrue and
unfounded that fundamentally they're
completely different you're going to
find physical conservatives and free
market capitalists coming from the Maga
movement there might be a few populous
in there but there are policies on
populism is going to be completely
different they do not have the same idea
of a proletariat movement as you do is
completely different and will lead to
Uprising and you might claim to have
some sort of Mega sentiment but to
actually say that you're part of the
Maga movement with them is just
completely false Marx himself was
completely against free market
capitalism in every way so to try and
align yourself with these guys is just
wrong
okay again I think you're you see I'm
gonna try and clarify your confusion
right to help so where you're coming
from is something called idealism you're
not actually looking at this from the
perspective of the material social
classes that are making up these
phenomena you're judging them at the
level of their ideas and moreover you're
just taking the ideas at face value
rather than trying to understand where
they're coming from with the whole free
market and conservative things so I'm
going to try to explain those okay so
first of all the there is again I have
to emphasize this because you made this
mistake again there is no Marxist
landiness movement there's no such thing
there's never been such a thing as a
movement defined by being Marxist
leninist now there have been movements
Hey listen don't interrupt me I don't
interrupt you we don't want to do this
right so just get clarifying okay yeah
but there's no such thing
there's no such thing as a movement
that's created by Marxism leninism
Marxist leninists have assumed the
leadership of various different
movements in history I want to prove
bikes you know example by by you know
not not by forcing it but like by
actually earning that trust and earning
that proof right from Marxist Lenin is
to lead
a Maga movement in the future right so
Marxist leninists don't create their own
movements it's yeah it's an ideology all
ideologies do is they lead movements
right they don't actually create
movements now you're you're saying that
the Maga movement ideologically is free
market and conservative and is hostile
to Communism well let's break that down
first of all the MOG movements over well
working class rule movement okay I'm a
maoist not just I'm a Marxist lenus but
I'm also a modelist right so that rule
component is very important as far as my
understanding of how revolutions work
and how popular uprisings work so it's a
rural working class movement and now
ideologically the reason it's
anti-communist is because it is
associating communism with the current
Monopoly imperialist system that we have
on steroids it's against socialism in
the welfare state in the red tape
bureaucracy because these correspond to
the quote-unquote corporate socialism
that we have in place with the ruling
class what's going on is that the state
is being used
alongside the Monopoly ruling class
to secure the position and power of the
people who already made it at the top so
what that means is that they're going to
do things like promote more bureaucracy
promote more wasteful welfare state
bullshit and all this kind of stuff at
the expense of actually generating
wealth from below so the Working Man
will not have the opportunity to you
know have a chance at Prosperity because
the people at the top want to safeguard
their position so that's why you have
this situation in America where workers
are pro-capitalist and the ruling class
seems like it's anti-capitalist they're
not anti-capitalist they just already
made it to the top and they want to
protect their position
now the the reason workers are saying oh
yeah I'm Pro capitalist I'm Prof free
market because they they want a chance
at Prosperity themselves now where I'm
coming from with Marxism leninism is
that I think they're confused I don't
think there's a a theoretical Clarity
there I think this is just a spontaneous
Consciousness they're using to make
sense of the reality because what I
would tell them as a Marxist Lennon is I
would say this yeah you're right you
should have a chance at prosperity and
yeah we do need to smash the Imperial
estate machinery and this bureaucratic
red tape bullshit you know fake you know
this ruling class corporate socials we
need to smash all that and pulverize it
and return to the simple
you know American values I agree with
that but in order to do that we need
something like a land reform that
actually gives workers a piece of the
pie we need to give them some kind of
Base Line Capital to work with whether
that's in the form of land whether
that's in the form of something like
Yang's Ubi well it's some kind of way
that they can actually stand on their
two feet and begin with something
because you don't begin with anything
without land right so that's what we in
Marxist London starts we say that that
needs a land reform so that's why we are
allies with free market people and we're
allies with the conservatives because
although on a strictly abstract
theoretical level maybe it seems like we
have nothing in common in Practical
reality we're coming from the same place
our enemies are the same we're enemies
with the imperialist
Monopoly ruling class their enemies with
the imperialist Monopoly ruling class
right now how we make sense of that we
might disagree along the line but we're
in the same position we're in the same
boat
okay well you're trying to make it seem
here that you guys are you know yeah
you're right like you say in the same
boat in the same position and that might
be true that you guys are in the same
position but you guys are completely
different fundamentally it just makes no
sense because Trump supporters and his
supporters you're kind of assuming their
problems in making solutions for them
from a Marxist leninist as you see a
perspective but they have completely
different ways of making that you know
trying to clean house of the deep State
and trying to make a free market
capitalist country they have completely
different solutions to these problems
that you're proposing here and and it's
just you're trying to like absolve them
of their issues by by you giving yeah
but I think I think they're way more
open-minded and open to Alternative
conclusions than you give them credit
for I think they're just I think they're
just speaking their mind on a in a very
spontaneous way and that's not
necessarily the be-all end-all of where
they're coming from all right this is
just the first kind of spontaneous
Consciousness that they're coming from
you know and and I'm not here by the way
to to point to look to you know to point
at them and say oh no you're wrong you
have to listen to me I'm here to reason
with people open dialogue and say things
like okay we are facing a lot of
problems the manga movement is facing a
lot of problems right now we're facing a
lot of problems dealing with these
Democrats right now maybe we need to
look at this strategy maybe we need to
look at this angle and maybe this will
allow us to beat the enemy right because
we have the same enemies so it's like
it's like if you're in a war if you're
in a war and you've got the same enemies
on the other side
there can be different strategists and
different tacticians if you're losing
the war that's going to give more
opportunities for people who have
alternative theories to you know have
their shot at the enemy give their goal
at the enemy and and prove their
leadership prove their ability to lead
this movement now you know I also don't
know necessarily why there's something
inherently incompatible between Marxism
leninism and the goals of marxist
leniness and Maga you know when you talk
about socialism I think Americans in
this country have no idea what that word
means they have no idea what that
actually entails we have people like AOC
we have the Democratic socialists and we
have these like people coming from The
Bernie perspective that's just an
extension of U.S imperialism those
people just want to extend they want to
use Monopoly capitalism to give
breadcrumbs to people instead of
actually having a real socialist state
at least in the relevant communist sense
of the word real socialism that doesn't
mean you're just giving out free shit
and you're just printing more money that
comes from nothing real socialism means
that the government works like a
commonwealth it works to ensure the
prosperity that for all lift giving
people the ability to be lifted up and
lift themselves up that's what that's
what real socialism is actually about
it's like what they have in it's more
like you you may disagree with the
political system but economically it's
more like what they have in China right
socialism just means we're not going to
let the banks and we're not going to let
Wall Street in the city of London hijack
our government so that we don't actually
have a government that rules on the
basis of the Commonwealth and the common
prosperity of the people we're going to
have a government that does everything
in its power to serve the people to
serve social lands right we want our
economy to work for the people we don't
want our economy to work for Bankers
right I think it's just a very simple
distinction
all right well I I think I see the
problem here I think you might
some of the Maga movements support but
you know I think you're actually
differentiating differentiating yourself
from actual Mart because I see what
you're doing kind of here is kind of
obfuscating some of my
that he talks about I mean with
capitalism you're kind of presenting his
ideology as almost a capitalist
alternative that it's almost the same
thing just like a few extra steps but in
reality Marx is completely against it he
sees free markets as an illusion of
equality but it just creates a hierarchy
instead he has completely different
values than actual conservatives so to
say that you're an ally you and your fan
base might be an ally but that is not
that does not hold true with a lot of
them so I think I think you're confusing
your position I think you are wrong I
think you think Marxism is utopian
socialism and it's not Marxism is a
science it's a method which is supposed
to be used to guide right it's supposed
to guide this process of the transition
from the capitalist mode of production
to the Socialist mode of production so
Marxism isn't going to come here and
click completely recreate Society from
scratch if you read the 10 planks of the
Communist Manifesto you don't see any of
that they're not marxists are not here
to just you know come and completely
remold society and the vision of some
kind of like you know that's nowhere to
be found in Marx so I think you're very
confused about where Marx was actually
coming from as far as socialism and that
was concerned and if you if you're
talking about the ultimate development
of socialism like at the like you know
after maybe you know um decades or maybe
centuries I don't know then you're
dealing with a society in which there is
so much wealth and abundance and there's
so little time people need to spend
actually working to survive
that people are able to unleash their
potentials as human beings artistically
and scientifically to transform the
world transform nature to suit human
ends and that basically that's that's
the the end right that's the end Vision
like that's what we expect will happen
at the very end right you increase and
maximize prosperity to such an extent
that there's not even any more need for
things like money there's not even any
more need for you know a specific
institution of property anymore because
you know we have enough wealth and we
have enough creative power and we have
enough you know sovereignty as a people
we have enough Unity to do that but
that's not what that's not like that's
not like the great reset where they say
you'll own nothing and be happy that's
not where marxists are coming from I
think you are confusing Marx with the
great reset socialism of the fabians and
the Democratic socialists and those
kinds of people who actually marks
fought against and he actually mentioned
them in the Communist Manifesto he
called them Bourgeois and philanthropic
socialists and he hated them Marx did it
Marxist Marx was not this you know he
wasn't this fucking guy who's like you
know he mentioned things like the free
market so first of all factually
speaking what you said is not true Marx
actually did from endorse free trade and
now it's not the same as the free market
but he did it because he thought it
would accelerate the inevitable
contradictions within capitalism so just
like a side note but you know we're not
talking about a fruit what is a free
market I don't know what a free market
means exactly right but what I do know
is that
will Willis will socialism entail Freer
markets yes it will China's Market in
many ways for the common man is Freer
than Americas if you're a vendor in
China and you're selling your vegetables
and you're selling your fruits you're
not getting taxed there's not all these
fucking red tape regulations about where
you can set up and we no and then they
don't even have an intellectual property
they don't even Force any of that
China's got a very Dynamic much Freer
Market but you know you have to ask the
question free or for who so a free
market for people at top that means the
bottom the guy at the bottom gets fucked
over right but a Freer market for The
Working Man is a good thing so we don't
believe in an unconditional principle of
free markets I think you're thinking of
this in utopian ways you're thinking of
this in terms of end goals instead of
the here and now right you're saying
like oh
Mark's critiqued capitalist markets yeah
he did and he was right about those
critiques so what's the relevancy right
does that mean we're just because
because Marx made this critique we're
going to completely refashion Society in
a way that we consider correct nope
that's what Marx and engel's critiqued
as utopian they were against utopianism
okay well I think you're just reaffir
reaffirming my point earlier that you're
just kind of like a obfuscating some of
Marx's points and it sounds like yes it
sounds like you are agreeing with me
almost on a level and that you're coming
from sort of this eccentric capitalist
point of view but I mean you were just
kind of wrong on the point that Marx he
is he does see issue with the free
market he sees it as giving an illusion
of equality but in reality it creates a
hierarchy okay okay but listen no you're
you're like all over the place all right
I get that you just read marks like
maybe for the first time in your life
and you saw this out of con like you
have to understand Marx was critiquing
Bourgeois equality Bourgeois legal
equality he's talking about the equality
on the market he's not saying this is a
horrible rotten thing that we need to
completely replace in the image of my
new thing therefore all markets need to
be destroyed because I'm recognizing how
markets correspond to the Bourgeois
formal equality which by the way isn't
an illusion Marx and Engels never said
Bourgeois equality was an illusion they
said it was actually a reality Bourgeois
equality does entail treating people who
are different by Nature by circumstance
by skill Etc in some sense as equal
that's what the function of abstract
labor actually does accomplish so I you
are you you are like I don't I don't
think people should be allowed to read
Marx until they've read Hegel and
understood the full context because I'm
really sick of how people just like they
take Snippets out of Marx and they just
like form these wild conclusions they
you don't understand Marx I'm sorry
whatever you read about Marx whatever
you think you understand about him is
completely it's contrived out of nothing
you like
Marx's critique of the free market
system is not being made from a
policy-making perspective it's being
made and by the way the word again
there's so much things have to delve
into the word critique
comes from the German idealist tradition
critique just means to develop and point
out the realities behind the Surface by
critiquing something you're basically
laying out the inputs that are
responsible for the outputs that's all
critique means critique is not a
normative statement if you critique
something that doesn't mean you're
interested in um you know eliminating it
and replacing it voluntarily with
something new so I think you're like
you're you're presenting models like
this policy maker who said oh free
markets are bad so therefore we have to
replace it no that no Marx was coming at
this from a pretty impersonal scientific
perspective and he was just trying to
understand
the then 19th century Capital now you
keep saying that I'm just promoting a
version of capitalism I don't agree
because the capitalist mode of
production is ultimately ending with
the gender the production of surplus
value and money as like the primary form
of and the primary logic and the primary
rationale behind the mode of production
production exists to generate Surplus
value that's what capitalism is okay
well the problem is in a socialist
system you're coming off to me right now
is like almost like an obscure
Protestant Christian I mean you're
you're basically reading it's like
you're reading the Bible it's reading a
verse and then coming up with something
completely different okay no no you know
what you know what read the universities
okay okay read me the verses that are
supposedly in such common sense that
we're just gonna immediate like just
just give me your receipts what what are
your verses give them to us
well right here well I mean you're
really no no no no no I'll tell you why
sir I'll tell you why sir because you're
just you're just saying oh this like
dumb bullshit like a first impression of
Marx that's like a common Prejudice that
exists in our society you're gonna take
it face value without even independently
investigating it myself in any kind of
way you're just gonna say like okay yeah
all of people like a bunch of retards
say this like shit about marks I've
never actually read marks myself or
understood where Marx was coming from
but I'm just gonna like trust the fact
that all these depictions and prejudices
people have about Marx are actually
grounded in the reality of Marx so
therefore Haas since you are saying
things about Marx that are different
from what I've been told about Marx you
are like this crazy Protestant Christian
no if you want to talk about Marx let's
hit the fucking books Let's actually
look at what Mark said and try to
understand why he said what he said on
his own terms I don't give a fuck what
people think about Marx I don't care
what they taught you about Marx and
University I don't care what prageru
tells you about Marxism I don't care
what Society tells you about Marxism or
anything for that matter I actually
think one of the bad things about
capitalism is the way in which we just
somehow defer to what society says to
understand things instead of
investigating these these things
ourselves it's the same thing when it
comes to
Health crisis and climate change and all
this shit let's go to the books and try
to be independent thinkers you know
that's what Mark said Mark said his one
of his biggest maxims was dare to know
dare to actually think for yourself go
to the source look at it on its own
terms it doesn't matter what the
consequences are socially who cares
about the social consequences who cares
if I if you go and read marks if you
read Marx thoroughly you master Marx and
you come to realize holy fuck American
marxists are completely wrong about
everything they're saying all these
monsters are completely full of shit
fuck them they're completely wrong that
is more courageous that is more noble
that is more bold that's the sign you're
an actual independent thinker and you're
not just referring to some established
consensus on what Marx means Because by
the way a lot of the times let me tell
you the truth leftists just use the guy
Karl Marx they've never fucking read him
in their fucking life and if they've
read him they've read him in a way where
they're wearing these glasses that are
just over determining everything Mark
says with their already existing
prejudices fucking leftists use marks as
is a cool fucking Dumbledore I'm going
to tell you the fucking psychoanalysis
behind this leftists just look at a guy
like Marx and they use him as a cool
Grandpa and enabling Dumbledore this
patriarchal figure from the past that
enables all the fucking retarded shit
that they believe so anytime leftists
have this retarded world view where they
have all those resentment they're
fucking losers in life so they want to
reform Society so that they can fucking
you know become interpretive dance
fucking PhD experts they look at that
guy marks they don't give a fuck what
Mark said they don't give a fuck what
Marx wrote they don't give a fuck about
anything about Marx but they look at
that guy in the past like oh this is an
old guy with a big ass beard who seems
like he's really smart I'm gonna use
that as the justification and the
validation for all the retarded shit I
believe in the world sorry sir that's
the relevance Marx has in the United
States of America right now that's a
cold hard truth Society is wrong you
actually have to study the source
yourself
okay well you're basically just Matt
Walsh 2.0 right here just with a couple
extra your uh your question went on
super long so I'm gonna all right headed
off and want somebody else you're not uh
let me let me just say one more thing
it's going to be cool
yeah let me just get the last word no
it's not your anime fuck you sorry I
love you you're beautiful
uh Zionist Schultz you're up go for it
hello Mr Oz how's it going
what's up what's going on
um I am so freaking tired after that
Exposition the 20 minute
okay listen to be honest I came in here
with a lot of energy as you can see in
my name I'm a Zionist I know that you
are Infamous for being an anti-zionist
so I was going to be like
you know combat and all that crap but I
I'll ask you the question maybe we could
pick up the energy here
um yeah I'm a Zionist though let's let's
hear it why why are you against the
state of Israel
why am I against the state of Israel I I
I'm I have a very fatalistic
um Eastern view of things when it comes
to geopolitics I don't think Israel is
viable I don't think it's tenable now we
could talk about Israel's crimes we
could talk about how Israel has a
criminal existence which is something I
believe right I think Israel is a
horrible bad thing that was created it's
in a remnant of Western colonos yeah
yeah I believe all that I just don't
think it's particularly effective to say
that because so what you know oh
something is immoral therefore it's not
going to exist anymore no plenty of
things you might come to the conclusion
are immoral that doesn't say anything
about their actual reality
like Soviet Union like communism I agree
with you yeah absolutely
um well hold your horses there because
China's wait wait hold on let it to the
Israel
to the Marxism conversation okay sure
yeah so so I I don't think Israel has
any long-term chance of survival in the
Middle East it is fundamentally this is
the truth Israel as a country will
always be fundamentally antagonistic to
the civilizations and the powers that
exist in the Middle East and what are
those Powers I'm not just talking about
governments and States I'm talking about
peoples and like these deep
civilizational realities you have the
remnants of the Persian the safavid
Empire you have the remnants of the
Ottoman Empire these are all reforming
now after modernity they're all coming
back together right all these old
Empires that we thought were an
adjustment of History all this is
coalescing into you know these
polarities right and Israel at least as
a separate sovereign state has no
reality in that future I mean Israel is
a completely artificial I don't believe
you can just make an artificial country
from scratch I just don't
what do you think the United States
no you're wrong the United States is not
an artificial country from scratch
actually the United States wasn't built
because someone had the agenda to create
this artificial country from scratch
scratch in contrast to what many of the
um leftists are trying to say now the
settlers who came into the United States
settled in this country in a way that
was not unlike the more organic forms of
settlement that you see in the empires
throughout history people came form new
ways of life here sin criticized and
interact I mean yeah there was genocide
horrible shit but there still was
genuine you know interactions with the
already existing inhabitants you know
other ethnicities that there was a
genuine ethnogenesis and nation building
that preceded the existence of the
United States Stalin makes this point
actually pretty well by the time the
Declaration of Independence happens
America is already a separate nation but
Israel by contrast is just completely
contrived plan coming from the
intellectuals just like Ukraine I don't
know if I could say that you know okay
that's fine that's why but what do you
think is like
um just factual you said it yourself the
the state of Israel is uh you know the
time is running out sooner or later
they're gonna run out of steam what do
you think is like the crucial thing that
you're gonna see where Israel is just
gonna melt away like it's not going to
exist anymore and the Palestinians are
going to rejoice and be like yeah
yeah Islamic State of Palestine we get
to throw
gigs and hit our women you know like
well what do you think
all right so first of all there's two
things first of all I think Israel
has very I think there's a very big
potential for civil conflict within
Israel not between Palestinians and Jews
but among Jews themselves I think
there's a huge antagonism between the um
you know more Metropolitan liberal Jews
that live in Israel who are maybe
aligned with globalism and these like
Hasidic ones who are probably more
hostile to Zionism as a project in
general and want to return Judaism to
something more traditional and then you
know there's I know there's more
elements and more factions in Israeli
politics but I do see a fundamental
antagonism within Israel itself that you
know you can you talk about Palestinians
being doing all these things well you
know it Judaism is a very traditional
religion just like Islam
and in some ways it's more permissive in
other ways it's more prohibitive it's an
abrahamic religion just like Islam and
there is a very deep
ly traditionally Jewish
um population within Israel
that probably that probably will fare
better with some kind of Islamic empire
than it will with this you know modern
Zionist project
so I don't know what to tell you
well is a secular a progressive state
right that's the reason why we allowed
yeah and it's it's that's also why it's
not going to survive because Secular
Progressive states are a remnant of
Bourgeois modernity that era is over so
you definitely got that point uh the one
good thing that's going for us is
probably the Hasidic Jews are that's
probably outgoing growing population of
uh you know European Jews or any of
these Jews that's coming over to become
an Israeli
um so you do have a point there yeah but
that is you realize but that is
fundamentally incompatible with Zionism
and the premises of Zionism why
sorry why is that why is it because
because Zionism was a modern project to
emulate German romantic nationalism from
Europe it doesn't draw anything from the
actual Jewish religion and the Deep
traditions of the Jewish religion
nothing
theocracy it's supposed to be a
progressive circular state that allows
people to celebrate whatever religion as
sexuality whatever right maybe yeah but
here's the thing the that that era is
over we are as as Alexander kojev said
we are now living in the era of Empires
and I'm sure that in an I'm sure that in
an Islamic empire there will be a place
for Jews to have their own autonomous
laws and their own enforcement of their
own traditional laws but secularism
cannot actually ameliorate
ethnic cultural or religious differences
and I use the word Islamic empire I
don't necessarily mean the enforcement
of Islam on everyone I'm just talking
about a specific historical
civilizational reality that actually
by the way Jews were always very
prominent within people like
um you know IBN maimun in Spain and
others I mean
um forgot his actual name yeah I just
know him as whatever his name was you
know Jewish Scholars Jewish culture
flourished under these Empires so
yeah I just think there's no place for
Zionism in the future as I as I see you
talk
and guess this is your career
unfortunately I don't watch a lot of
your content but I understand you're
very well spoken and you're you're very
intelligent but I I just don't
understand why you think that the state
I I understand that you know the
secularism and you know where it's not a
maintainable state but at the current
moment right now
um you know the state of the state of
Israel is winning it's w right so like I
don't know about that maybe right away
wait wait wait so so you think the
Palestinians if they stick around enough
for like 100 200 years the state of
Israel is going to slowly just deflate
and palestine's like uh you know what
they they went away you know they
Embrace secularism they didn't they
didn't do their religiosity we're just
going to take over repopulate no but I
do think no I I don't I know that the
Palestinians are obviously in a very
unfortunate position right now but
unfortunately foreign
but unfortunately for the Zionist
project the Palestinians are just a
percentage of this greater Regional
context that includes Iran it includes
turkey it includes Egypt right so I mean
the Palestinians are just the people
within Israel right now we are in the
era of multipolarity there's polarities
nation states are not going to Define
you know what what a power actually is
so Regional powers are rising the Middle
East indigenous Regional Powers I should
add Iran turkey you know Egypt will
probably have its day so these are all
polarities and Powers right that are
rising in the Middle East and where does
Israel figure into that it doesn't
Israel is still attached to American
unipolarity at the most fundamental
level Israel has no organic connection
but Israel is not the only wait I'm not
sure what you meant by that but are you
saying that America is assisting the
existence of Israel I think that's what
you're saying no no I'm not saying that
I'm saying America is guaranteeing the
existence of Israel because without
America there would be no Israel
I actually doubt that I think I think
Israel has actually foot this so
um yeah legs to stand on uh it's the
12th largest economy in the world it has
one of the best cyber Securities in the
world disputably it has one of the best
armies in the world I mean and there's
there's that spec because of America if
if America did if America ditched Israel
wait wait wait wait because of America
dude
dude everybody gets support from yeah
you're right you're right but in the
year of multi-polarity that was the
bipolar world of the Cold War in the
area of multi-polarity there's
indigenous polarities that are now
emerging they're neither attached to the
Soviet Union which no longer exists or
the United States and yeah I understand
there's like a chain that you know China
is how helping Iran in many ways and
also Russia is greatly helping the axis
of resistance as it's called because
Russia's in Syria right now and Russia
is moving against Israel by the way
Russo's on Israel's border so I mean
it's just it doesn't doesn't look good
for Israel if you ask me
it's a great thing I think the Israel
the state of Israel is going to stick
around for the longest time it is
unfortunate what's happening I'm so
sorry Haas I wish I could talk to you
more but I do have to get to dinner I
was I was hoping that the first guy
would just finish up so I could have
more time to talk to you I'm actually
surprised that you know I've seen videos
before where you just like scream and
yell and get all excited but I'm
actually I'm actually surprised that
you're willing to have like a actual
calm and rational discussion about this
um yeah no problem I hope you can come
on next time for the AMA so we could
actually have a better discussion on it
okay yeah sure my apologies thank you so
much yep no problem
thank you Mr George uh next up we've got
black Spades so far
yo you owe me money from the last am I
you did
so last time I mentioned
um you you buy into the Snowden
narrative
um and then we did right into me
smacking you from data
um
the question is why do you believe in
that uh narrative that the NSA spies and
everyone will collects everyone's data
I saw you you probably came back with
prepared all these sources and stuff so
what what just lay it laid on us what do
you got
what's the news no I'm asking you the
question of what you think stuff is I
don't have any sources ready I I think
okay I think
um from what I know uh Edward Snowden
revealed a the great extent of NSA
spying on ordinary Americans
so did you read any of the documents
directly no I'll confess I didn't read
them directly but I've never been
presented with any reasons without them
so we're to doubt The Narrative right
so that's interesting you say that
um when you just before the first guy
yeah but I'll I'll I'm open to whatever
you have to derailed sorry yeah yeah
traded him for not no no I know I know
you're wrong you're right okay but I'm
not like dying on any Hill right now I'm
just saying this is my
this is my impression right I've never
seen anyone contested if you want to
contest it
I'm not just gonna say oh everyone's
saying the contrary therefore I'm
correct that would mean I'm a hypocrite
right no we'll have to go read it we'll
have to like pull everything up and see
what's going on so
so with um with with those legs anyone
to actually wear the material uh you
find no violated violation of the
Constitution any law
and uh respectful Protestants civil
liberties
hold on how do you know there's no
violation of the Constitution when the
Constitution can be very twisted and
broadly interpreted to be compatible
with things like the Patriot Act Right
so what do you mean it's not what do you
think what do you mean it's not uh
unconstitutional
well that's been good Constitution for
several courts
um but just knowing case right with
Supreme Court determinations which by
the Constitution decides right but
that's if there's anything about the
Constitution I probably disagree with
it's that the Supreme Court and the
Judiciary can be trusted with
interpreting the spirit of the
Constitution so I'm very much
sympathetic to the kind of militia
movement and Libertarians who just kind
of say no there is a spirit of the
Constitution the courts can be corrupted
to interpret it in a way that violates
and you know because the Constitution
wasn't written because the judge said so
the Constitution was written first
because of the war against the British
and you know so it's like I'm aware of
that but you've got the constitution on
the the first and Fourth Amendment right
you have a reasonable expectation of
privacy
um the government can't do unwarranted
um surveillance you have direct free
space right so I'm actually you know
what so why why do you think the NSA
spying doesn't violate that privacy
what's the reasoning because to attain
to obtain a warrant to do surveillance
with uh NSA like with all applications
there has to be a basis that there are
probable cause or revs that you're
targeting someone for the belief within
a ticketable set of facts or probable
cause of death but so you don't think
that can be interpreted in a very
arbitrary and Broadway isn't that kind
of you need probable cause Okay so for
example one of the programs that that's
not laid and was debunked by his own
records and his narrative because he
didn't work with his fights authorities
was the bulk uh
for example right which wasn't domestic
collection it was one informed one of
domestic international phone calls right
retained every three years but to either
query a number you had to have a
reasonable executable suspicion that
number was associated with uh terrorism
instead of fat documented facts
and if
the number is known to be a USP because
person you have to have a higher
approval to determine that you're not
doing that query based on the First
Amendment uh activities right so like if
you're a Muslim and you're a journalist
and you're criticizing the the war in
Afghanistan or Iraq at the time
um this no longer exists by the way then
that's a First Amendment activity but if
this other set of of documentation that
gives rise to this person actually is
funding in the background terrorist
activities or supporting them somehow
some way then that number can be queried
right so you're protecting the First
Amendment and this doesn't Enbridge the
Fourth Amendment because it's not a
search right it's not content it's not
surveillance of that person right which
is Smithfield Maryland
okay yeah so I'm reading you something
so in a ruling handed out on Wednesday
the U.S court of appeals for the ninth
circuit said the warrantless telephone
Dragnet that secretly collected millions
of Americans telephone records violated
the foreign intelligence surveillance
act and may very well have been on
constitutional we mentioned this it
brings to the question asked of did you
read
um the materials and if you didn't read
a course just then you just Googled it
uh that Court ruling of Molin however
the funny thing is all of the media
reporting was wrong
that caught upheld what was the
motivation for them lying
I'll go through it yeah very deep dive
on this one so
the ninth Court of Appeals
um didn't set a program was
unconstitutional
because it wasn't
at merits with the case since it wasn't
introduced as evidence of trial and
Admiral for Merlin at all in 2020 in
2012
I can't speak to that
um so it says explicitly the Court
ruling that
um it doesn't uh speak to that it says
um
for all these reasons the defendant's
Fourth Amendment argument has
considerable Force but we do not come to
rest as to whether the discontinued
metadata program fired the fourth man
because even if it did
you're kind of losing me can you like
simplify okay can you can you simplify
what you're talking about because what's
the point what point are you so you're
saying the court case was thrown out and
why was it wrong I wasn't throwing out
the conviction was upheld because the
program so this program was used as a
tip it provided the tip against no one
he wasn't
um directly under surveillance and so
forth right or his associates okay yeah
but okay but hold on we're talking about
the collection of phone metadata of
millions of Americans you're just
quoting the ninth circuit okay but
that's that's I don't know who moland is
I don't know why you're talking about
this case Okay so if a guy sued the NSA
for spying on him and you're saying oh
they weren't spying on him what about
the other people they were spying you
know
so here the unlike the fake news because
it's a little fake news read of the
Court determination itself they
explicitly don't speak to the
Constitution out of the program because
it is not warranted here it wasn't
introduced as evidence thus in a fact of
lower courts holding will
unconstitutionally does Hope explicitly
voted as constitutional
likewise the court didn't rule on but
did provide an analysis of thinking that
the program wasn't statutorily
authorized now
um it again doesn't rule that because
it's irrelevant to the case but it
agrees in analysis with the previous
Court finding in 2015
there's a problem with that Court ruling
in 2015 though one it couldn't be
appealed because the Freedom Act passed
in 2015 the government was going to but
couldn't appeal it it would have won the
appeal
how do you know it would have won the
appeal
because Supreme quote is is very clear
uh decision Smithfield Maryland
um numerous experts Shadow note and just
a factual analysis of that ruling shows
it as such
so
um
Clapper right
it didn't have access to classified
records and when it made its
determination on the relevance standard
by the statute authorizers the MDU
section 15's BMW Defender being
destroyed is this
since 2015 shows that an application
submitted to the Fisk there was that
demonstration of relevance to ongoing
investigations by the FBI because that's
the status
you're losing me you're losing me like I
don't know it's like the way you're
talking and you so yeah can you like so
can you get to the points just get to
the points I don't I don't give a fuck
about the procedural history of what
happened in 2004 and like you're there's
so much minutia here that's going way
past my head just get to the fucking
point dude get you what is your point
hey gig just tell us what you're trying
to say stop
it okay okay so the tildeo
is that Merlin's case 20 2016 by 219.
it upheld the conviction on those
defendants because the program wasn't
relevant to that finding on the
conviction
it wasn't introduced as evidence okay
hold on you know so okay so the Supreme
Court said so or the nine certain
Circuit Court said something and you're
saying what what is your point you're
saying it was why should I care why
should I care that it wasn't like why
should I care that it wasn't part of the
ruling why should I care
sorry why should I care that it wasn't
part of the ruling
because when you see the the fake news
uh allegations saying that this uh Court
said that the program is either
unconstitutional illegal but that's not
what I quoted it said that's not what I
quoted that's not what I quoted what I
said is that it may vary what they said
as what I've quoted is that it may very
well
have been unconstitutional if we roll
back the type you were quoting the
headline which said it was
unconstitutional
okay now what is this what about Clayman
versus Obama does that mean nothing
claiming Obama was overturned
okay that that finding was also deemed
uh so you're saying there's nothing
suspicious so you're saying the
government
discovered that it did no wrong on
Constitution I mean like wow what a what
a big fucking surprise wait so hold on
you're just trying to appeal possibly to
court determination no I wasn't I was
just saying I was just saying if even
the in these instance chords and of
course inevitably it's going to be
overturned are saying this clearly
there's probably some truth I mean what
are the relevant motivations for lying
or exaggerating
chords can make erroneous determinations
but not lie okay okay when we have
multiple we have multiple courts we have
multiple different cases like in flaming
so why it was it why are you
interrupting so because you went off
before the 2015 case was
um uh erroneous because it didn't have
the actual documentation to issue its
relevance finding in 2015. so the
documentation in question being the like
are you disputing that they were
collecting metadata on millions of
American citizens are you disputing like
for example
are you disputing for example that I'm
I'm gonna answer the question
cool so did the statement or the claim
both Snowden versus the program this
particular Revolution there's two
different authorities that are two
different two different sorts
authorities under two different laws
this one is bulk BMW the other one's not
bulk
um this one
wasn't collecting everyone's
daughter metadata or content this was
only a telephony data collect in bulk
yes with confidence with with phone
calls with one end foreign one in
domestic that's adjust the gap between
foreign and domestic intelligence
retained only for five years and down to
three years
and it could only be created the only
way that this thing worked is two
mechanisms one a number was queried
automatic manually again couldn't be
done based on personal activities had to
have rathers the other one was an alert
list that had numbers pre-listed that
had that rare satisfaction or probable
cause approved by the Fisk what about
the MD house every day what about the MD
hash five protocol of the um
the Excel sorry what about the MD hash 5
protocol in order to store the documents
in the proper Cloud servers of the
telecomputation system
so the the companies
um handed this data over per court order
to I literally just made all of that I
literally just made all of those words
up they mean nothing it's like it's like
what you're saying means nothing to me
just like what you're saying means
nothing to me I literally made all of
that respond to what the dribble you
just said in the affirmative if you pay
attention no but it was all set up you
don't understand I was just speaking I
was just speaking incomprehensible I
didn't affirmate I didn't affirmate I
didn't respond to that dribble yeah we
okay but you did respond to it you did
respond to it you did respond to it as
though you like knew what I was talking
about I was going to explain no but you
did respond to it as if that like was
like oh I know what you're talking about
explaining to you brought back the tape
kit
I asked you I asked you hold on sir I
asked you what about incomprehensible
gibberish and then you responded you did
respond
roll back the type you got the stream go
on
okay so you did I was going to respond
with how the data was it over to NSA
how was it over to NSA was not my my
back doors or by like hacking the
companies it was by court order it was
sent over to the government
wait so what does that have to do with
what I said
because you're trying to bring up of
like how the insert gibberish
um no the gibberish was just gibberish
it wasn't about hacking yes
I didn't say anything about it I didn't
say anything about how you were trying
to do it gotcha with gibberish but in
that gibberish you were trying to get
involved in like how the government was
collecting that down no I wasn't I'm
telling you know why I was like it was
provided by the companies to court by
court order right there was no hacking
of these I didn't mention hacking I
literally just said I did not mention
front truth I didn't mention hacking I
just said gibberish
yes but that roll back the tape child oh
so now you're trying to make me like the
gibberish now you're trying now you're
trying to like interpret the gibberish
yeah yeah you are you are interpreting
the gibberish
so the same way that you're trying to
interpret my gibberish is the same way
in which you're trying
Olympic mental gymnastics to deny the
fact that the NSA spies on Americans it
had to do it just like how you responded
to my gibberish you're trying to like
rationalize you open your skating bitch
wait one second
so you can't just talk over him okay but
it seems like at the end of the day
where we're at right now is uh you're
gonna say that the government
investigated in front of the government
did nothing wrong and there are other
people that it seems like that's where
we are we just kind of been circling
that drink documentary it's probably a
good idea to move on okay okay fair
enough if if the cock thinks League
documents by Snowden are wrong that's up
that's on him hold on who didn't you
literally said nothing you didn't
explain the point of any of this nothing
systematically expensive no you weren't
you weren't just dude just get to the
point you know what getting into the
point means I was yeah I I am I didn't
work but then you're basically saying
you're basically saying unless you
literally worked for the end unless you
literally work for the NSA I was going
to explain I'm trying to explain how the
data sent over from companies to the
government but then you're like okay but
no no why don't you get to the why don't
you just jump straight to what is
relevant about that
relevant the government by the leaked
documents don't say the government spied
on or collected everyone's fucking data
notice of the Constitution no because of
the statutes no violations of privacy of
civil liberties the programs were
effective all by the books that's what
the leaked documents say they've got all
the Declassified documents so the same
thing I don't speak Queen gibberish all
right can you like repeat that like in
actual English this is some really this
is some roid curve theodia
delete documents by Snowden show the
programs were legal constitutional and
effective and Declassified documents to
show the uh effective legal and
constitutional then you have all the
core rulings that bmd what is so the
decisive thing about them being
constitutional so this is what I'm
trying to interpret I'm trying to
interpret it I'm trying to interpret
your uh anglo-babel so you're you're
trying to say that the decisive thing
that would make them constitutional is
the fact that the government got it from
companies rather than doing it itself
what what's the decisive thing get to
the point
decisive thing I just I just did the
Toyota for you Rita what makes this the
reason it's so the government spies on
Americans and invades our privacy but
that's okay we're gonna only spawn
Americans with a warrant that's never
changed
okay so how do they obtain okay so not
with the Patriots so so you're saying
they they get that warrant from a judge
okay well what about the national
security letters which were issued by
FBI agents without any judge's approval
to obtain personal information on phone
records computer records credit history
and banking is that is incorrect nsos
because of the Patriotic and the nsos
nsos are governed by four different
statutes acpa and so forth these are
decades before the Patriot Act
um when the paycheck was amended it
amended parts of those stages which
still required Court approval Court
supervision and the ability for them to
quash and challenge NSL
right who can who can challenge them
further still sorry who can challenge
the inner cells
there are the companies the recipients
of the NFLs oh so the so the companies
which are totally not already in bed
with the government can challenge the
nsls but we the people who are being
spied on don't even fucking know about
them so how can we challenge them if
gives the companies the right why are
the company's representative of the
people whose privacy is being invaded
numerous companies have challenged NSL
okay so but but when did we give
companies the right to represent our
privacy
when you use the services okay so this
is what it hinges on you're saying our
privacy wasn't violated because we
should trust big Tech and all these
fucking corporations that are already in
bed with the government anyway so what a
stupid fucking thing dude it's like when
we put this shit you're saying in common
sense terms you sound like a fucking
retard you know it's fucking stupid oh
yeah oh yeah the companies could
challenge the nsls so that the companies
can challenge the ourselves so it wasn't
violating our privacy even though it
wasn't the company's privacy that's
being violated it's our fucking privacy
as individuals what a stupid fucking
thing to say God has to still approve
the NSL
the judge
does not have to approve each and every
NSL where are you getting that the judge
has to approve each NSL
Patriot Act disagrees where are you
getting that the judge has to approve
the NFL see you in a second child you
can summer down
thirdly we have the audits of those NFLs
I want to know where you're getting that
the judge approves them where are you
getting the judge approved explain it to
you in a second child I tried to explain
to you Marvin I got some great spamming
DMS but if you needed
um
did you so I've got to try to explain
Marilyn you spoke the fuck out
I'm asking you about the judges of wine
I'm not I'm no no listen bitch you're in
my fucking AMA so where do you get that
the judges have to approve the nsls
don't fucking go on your tangent bullet
points about a separate thing where are
you getting that judges have to approve
the nsls
where are you getting that
I'll explain it to you in a second child
if you stop spoken so explain it right
now and don't give me more bullet points
about other things
I I will
why would I in and before I do why would
or why should I rather explain it when I
was trying to I still will but why
should I but because I said because I
said because I love the interruption
because I said because you're wasting
time and there's a lot of other people
in lines hey hey your majesty there's
other people in line that's why I'm
interrupting you so we can just like get
this done faster so the reason I'm doing
that is because I said nsls are issued
by FBI agents without a judge's approval
you're saying that's not true where you
get why so what is the source of that
misconception where are you getting that
judges have to approve nsls as I said
but you roiding out no no when I told
you to explain it you just said I don't
have to explain it to you just fucking
explain it like roids so the fuck now
dude me not being able to say yes
listen dude you you are only protected
by censorship right now you are only
protected by sensors cuckold stop
when you brought up like um hey hey hey
hey hey
Skip the anglo-babel your magical skip
the fucking anglo-babel and get to the
fucking point right
I'll explain first the orders and then
I'll go to the no go to the nsls you
fucked okay I wanna I wanna like say to
West so fucking bad you you anglo-babble
fucking retard you goddamn fucking Crown
baboon why don't you get to the fucking
point
we don't make your fish and chips and
wrap it up motherfucker get the fish and
chips going wrap it up we're hungry
servers are fish and chips cause you're
my bitch now you're my server found zero
child
settle down okay little bitch get to the
point where are you getting that judge's
head when I have to approve the NFL
where are you getting that judges have
to approve the NFL it's going to change
now this is the anglos guys this is
anglos this is anglos they can't even
answer the question this is this is how
it is settle down
on behalf of what Authority is your
Royal Navy behind you right on behalf of
what Authority on behalf of one
Authority
on behalf of what Authority you're good
on behalf of what Authority I shit on
the Queen's grave I shit on the Queen's
grave what are you gonna do about it I
shit on the Queen's grave what are you
gonna do about it I shit on the Queen's
grave I'm gonna go shit on her grave
what are you gonna do about it don't
fucking boss me around though Anglo boy
get to the fucking point right where are
you getting that judges don't need
where are you going yeah Mike Mike once
again so Mike he has been asking this
question like repeatedly for a while I'm
trying to explain no you're not you want
to do something else I just find a ton
of other shit first just answer the
question because there are a ton of
other people waiting
so when the paycheck amended uh some of
the NSL statues because NSL has been a
thing before the fucking Patriot Act
it changed those statutes as amended
to make it so that the companies I'll
bring up the relevant um changes
to quash and for from companies and
individuals who are issued them and for
it to be approved by the judge right
that's what it demanded now if you want
a specific section I will reference it
in a hot moment we good
okay so like when I was trying to
explain myself okay
the FBI can collect private papers
without a warrant the FBI director can
approve them instead of the judge you're
saying that's wrong
what you don't need a judge's approval
for nsls you don't the nsls they are
signed off by the FBI right yes but the
provision
if it depends on the NSO being issued if
it's pre-patriot act it had to be um
certified by the the judge I know right
we know
so but but but Edward Snowden was
talking about the way the Patriots act
and we're talking about the Patriots
we're not talking about in 1791 dude
we're talking about after the Patriot
Act
he's got to substantly respond to this
point of contention about the page after
the Patriot Act judges don't need to
sign nsls or just kick him out
okay do you heard that you heard the
terms so respond to exactly that yeah
let's suppose one two exactly that
raids stonus Lakes don't concern NSL two
the Patriot Act amended those statutes
that existed prior to the Patriot Act
to require that standard and the ability
further still to quash them which wasn't
a thing previous right so what you are
trying to tell specific National
Security investors okay so what you're
trying to tell me is that the Patriot
Act the fuck no you don't get to tell me
to shut up these are on all it's all in
my terms explaining it you're on my time
you're on my time you're on my time you
fucking anglo-bitch you're on my fucking
time shut your fucking little anglo-boy
mouth up your queen is fucking dead and
your king is a little cunt bitch and I'm
your con right now so shut your fucking
mouth so here's what I'm gonna fucking
tell you you just told me you're trying
to tell me the Patriot Act actually
strengthened our privacy by requiring
which wasn't required before this is
what you're trying to say now FBI agents
after the Patriot Act have to ask a
judge for permission where before they
didn't is that what you're trying to say
because I think you have It reversed
Mike
you there
I think it's I think he malfunctioned
okay well I think we're gonna move on
from that one surrender accepted
okay okay uh next stop we have uh
uh let's go with Russia Russia Defender
Russia Defender whenever yo let's get
some z's in chat so here's the reality
the reality is that Haas has made uh
many great statements on Russia but
recently he was challenged I saw a video
by Sam Cedar to debate him on Marshall
Ukraine and he completely pussied out of
it and you know I thought that that was
disappointing I I thought I respected
Haas and I think he I thought he would
stand up for his bleeps so I'd like him
to answer that what what video are you
talking about
so so uh Sam Cedars uh somebody put an
IM and Sam Cedar said that he'll debate
you on Russia Ukraine and you said no no
I remember that here's what happened
someone put an IM saying that Haas wants
to debate you about Russia and then Sam
Cedar said okay have him call in I'm not
a fucking peasant who's gonna call into
Sam Cedar's show he's going to debate me
on a scheduled debate I'm not calling
him in like I'm a random fucking guy I'm
gonna debate him in a formal debate and
we're gonna do it as equals I don't
because I don't who why why am I going
to call into Sam Cedar's show like a
fucking peasant
no but you said you didn't want to get
banned that was your reasoning so now
you're lying you said you wanted you
know well yeah I forgot about that
that's also true I could do it on Rumble
though actually I could do it I'll just
be on Rumble
yeah and here's the thing ultimately
like I feel like you stopped covering
Russia Ukraine like Hinkle's really been
on it and you just ran from Ukraine
because you're getting the platform okay
so first of all there's two reasons to
support Vladimir Putin no matter what no
you're running something you're running
from defending Russia no I'm not there's
two reasons I'm not doing it yeah you
are you little bitch why aren't you
anymore why aren't you defending Russia
hey shut the fuck up kid I'll tell you
why on Twitch no one else was filling
that Niche I was the only one coming
coming from that angle so that's why I
was doing it on Twitch I was growing my
twitch a lot YouTube plenty of other
people are doing it in a way better way
than I am plus it takes up so much time
and effort to get all the sources right
and do all this shit so I did get things
wrong oh that's a bunch of excuses did
you make it a bunch my main interest is
not news I'm not a news guy news has
never been my main interest my main
interest is politics philosophy that
kind of shit it's not news
well here's the thing you're doing um
multiply if I was if I was if I was
covering the Russian Ukraine conflict I
would have to cover I would have to
report the news rather than comment on
the news I don't like to report news I
like to analyze and comment on it and
make sense of it and the Russian you
weren't doing that for like months yeah
I was reporting news for months on
Twitch because
on Twitch I was the only one on YouTube
so you're at the Deep State Control you
let fucking Cloud swapping no it's not
news on YouTube
it's not needed on YouTube I would tell
people go watch the Duran go watch
Jackson Hinkle go watch uh banjo on
Twitch and you bow down nobody else was
doing it on Twitch there no one else was
doing it I had to be the source of Truth
on Twitch I'm not on Twitch anymore I'm
on YouTube there's plenty of people on
YouTube already fucking doing this shit
I don't need to do it so other people
are gonna do it so you're gonna run from
your fuck to defend Russia and the right
because there's a thousand Pro
ukrainians there's one for one
pro-russian there's one million fucking
retards and redditors celebrating
dugina's death calling to the death of
Russians and we need people to stand up
for that and you're fucking running all
right I'm standing up to that but I'm
doing it in a different way so if
they're talking about did you see what
Twitter said about dugina how they
celebrated her fucking death you don't
think that's inhuman no you don't think
you have to stand up for Russian people
I I have been doing that but just in my
own way
well what does that mean Oz what does
that mean I made a video I made a video
called Alexander doing the most
misunderstand man in the world and I
completely clarified all the
misconceptions about Dugan that you
people used to justify that her death so
I'm doing it in my own way that's not
enough cause you're not doing enough
that's the reality one video is not
enough okay you have to do more
pro-russia content 10 videos 100 videos
a thousand videos
you understand what I'm saying how about
I just let the Russians do what they're
doing and if you want information I
actually strongly recommend watching
Jackson Hinkle he actually I watched
Jackson hey by the way I'm Paul Jackson
when I hear news I'm like yo Jackson
what's going on he just tells me so it's
like he's the expert he's our father now
what's going on he's your father now
okay you know like uh okay well don't
get nervous if you want if you want news
on the Russia Ukraine conflict watch
Jackson if you want philosophy and shit
like that watch me simple wait you so
you're telling me you used to cover
Russia Ukraine and now you call Jackson
Hinkle and to figure out what's going on
yeah that's a sign of submission bro
that's a sign of submission submission
to what
submission to his thoughts and his ideas
and his fucking knowledge you're
submitting to that I I don't think I
would call it that like if you call
someone for information about someone I
don't think that's submitting I think
it's just you are another man you're
calling another man bro telling them oh
please tell me what's going on okay dude
all right what anything else
oh there's another uh someone's gonna
question you on Islam so I hope you're
ready hope you have your Quran open
because you're gonna get pressed all
right here we go
thank you Russia Defender
uh I guess he he really lives up to his
name um next up we have Matt Matt go for
it
what's up Pez I just want to talk a
little about the fisa thing really the
foreign information security act so last
year in 2021 there were 3.4 million
warrantless searches of yostata under
fisa which sounds like a big number but
it gets even bigger if you realize
that's over three times more than it was
in the previous year so that's the level
of surveillance that we've got going on
right now that's that's how much they've
ramped it up after after I mean listen I
have no doubt about it it's like that's
and that's just what we know that's just
what we know we look what about this
shit you don't know I mean all I have to
do to know that there's unconstitutional
surveillance of Americans is this
is there a precedent like does the
government actually care about the
Constitution all that much no there's
plenty of Precedence showing they don't
especially the federal agencies is what
we're talking about here they have
I I can't I don't think anyone's going
to deny that they've done a ton of uncon
they don't give a fuck about the
Constitution when it comes to you know
fulfilling their agendas so it's like
why wouldn't they be spying on us you
know oh because they're because the
Constitution they don't give a fuck
about that you know
yeah exactly what you said earlier it's
a one-party State for the establishment
so that's not actually what I want to
talk about I just wanted to comment on
it uh first question have you ever lost
an argument in your life
yeah I have I have
yeah I have I thought I was talking to
in for house with what what who is this
well I mean no in my whole life yeah as
far as my career
I don't think I have I think um the chat
does say that I've lost to like three
people and they say the first person I
lost to was tank
the second person was Sultan and then
the third person was
I don't remember pesto mine or something
but those are all people from the
community but that's what they say they
yeah and Mar yeah I don't know if I've
ever debated more I've never debate I
know better than debate debate him but
yeah
okay you're humble that's great okay uh
I wanted to expand a little on what
someone said earlier so you talked about
reaching workers as they are not how
they should be which is really nuanced
and more insightful than most people are
on the left like you you can't just
ignore the material conditions of a
country I love I love watching you talk
about things for this reason
specifically but but there's a but
um you spend a hell of a lot of time
defending Donald Trump defending his
actions defending uh by praising a lot
of different public figures who I think
these people change their beliefs at
will to reflect the current climate and
why do their constituencies like uh for
example is like the defunding the FBI
thing recently
and I just wanted to ask how is Trump in
any way anti-establishment because it's
my view that in like after 2008 and
occupy happened and a lot of left left
uh
a lot of leftists broke through the
mainstream into reality media
fundamentally shifted and invented the
Specter of fascism which was just
painted on Trump that not actually based
on the things that he says or believes
that
you wrote that he was in The
Establishment pick I think that was like
Lindsey Graham and the Jeb Bush and then
Ted Cruz or something but he's done so
much like pro-establishment shit I I
can't name a single anti-establishment
thing that he actually did in office I
just I just don't know how you really
correct that
um is he personally anti-assessment I
don't know probably not right but what
is he a symbol of I think there there is
definitely
a movement that is definitely
anti-establishment for whom he is the
symbol and so for me it's like I'm going
with the means right it's not about
Trump being personally or even factually
are a threat to the establishment in
terms of policy I don't think yeah
policy wise you know he didn't really do
all that much to fight The Establishment
if anything at all but he did create a
movement that whose political loyalties
are not tied to the establishment
so for example
most of the things the mainstream media
crucified Trump
on the cross of wasn't actually about
his policies he didn't like build the
wall or any of that shit yeah there was
the Muslim ban or whatever but that was
just Sensational BS it was mainly the
fact that Trump could Inspire his
supporters
to believe things that were different
from what they're being told by the
mainstream media by The Establishment
that Trump could Inspire his supporters
to you know
have a have different political
loyalties than just the official you
know
the official state itself so I mean
that's what made him so dangerous for
them is that he had this movement that
was like this fertile ground for
conspiracy theorists and Skeptics and
people who were like
they're lying to us man you know like
all those people were given a voice for
the first time and they had a platform
with which to amplify them out now did
Trump do much
policy wise to reflect that
I don't think so no
but
it's it's a it's a question where does
politics come from where does policy
come from ultimately I think it comes
from these movements right I think the
movements are the most important thing
once you get that solid base of people
then you can start talking about okay
how do we build political power right
but it's such an important step
right and I do think that the Maga I
have a number of Mega friends more
libertarian than that but still I have a
number of my good friends who are
anti-establishment they do a lot of
research to support their claims and all
that but I I just don't see how you can
ever break the connection between the
things that Trump did in office and that
he sort of inherited this movement that
was a reaction I don't think Trump
see it's an interesting thing it was
mostly not a political war of policy
making War it was a information War when
Trump was President he was forced by the
Republican establishment to you know do
things whatever a republican would do
but he then actually you know what I
will say
he did do things I do think were
contrary to the interests of the
establishment
actually you know what I have to issue a
clear uh a uh what is it a correction on
my part foreign policy his attitude
toward Russia
and reproachment with North Korea
were definitely definitely opposed to
the establishment
and then domestic Economic Policy his
tariffs
were definitely contrary to the
interests of at least as far we as we
know the establishment which is more Pro
like free trade and globalism so he did
do a few things
um he did he did now how successful
but I'll say yes on the terrorists but
I'm in the foreign policy I mean he
after the negotiations they didn't have
related teeth to it with North Korea he
played with a state sponsor of Terror
which meant more information is more
um right but like Trump he displayed
every intention and he did his very best
to try and like make a deal with North
Korea and you know I I don't think there
could have been any other
you know there's no democrat or
republican I can think of
who
whatever you're totally right on that um
I I just thought that uh I thought this
was a little concerning because it ends
up
um not only alienating people on the
left which you know big deal that's not
really your point in existing reaching
out to people to
tell them about left thought but more
that it kind of um
poorly displays uh left-wing actions
like what that looks like interiorly
which is kind of the important thing
well I think
yeah sorry go ahead well I think the big
threat is probably turning this into a
thing where we're just my community and
we're just gonna like be Trump dick
riders and that's not that's not the
intention that's not what I'm trying to
do I'm not trying to make a thing where
we're just like oh yeah we're gonna just
apologize for everything Trump does but
in a left-wing way I think we're more
interested in the movement we're more
interested in participating and being
with the Maga movement and you know
trying to make sense of people's
grievances with the status quo whether
it's the FBI stuff or other things
that's what we're here for we're not
here to just cheerlead Trump we're not
here to do that Trump is a meme for us
he's a symbol it's a meme right we like
the Trump meme only as proportionate
it's see this is what it is Trump's meme
for us is as proportionate as how much
he triggers the lips right that's why we
like Trump
but let's say Trump became like
you know officialized now like you know
he he became like completely a
domesticated image he wasn't offensive
anymore he was like a status quo we
would say Fuck Trump right so it's it's
like
it's just about the meme Warfare really
when it comes to that
okay great yeah clearly I misunderstood
that that that's a great started a
little concerning at first glance
I have a third question uh should be a
shorter one
um you've read a lot of history um
shitload of History your head is you
know bigger than your uh your Y
chromosome so what do you where do you
find new books or histories to read on
stuff like how do you uh get into
different topics
usually I'll find myself trying to
finish a writing and then I'll
procrastinate and then I'll send myself
down a rabbit hole
in a like really manic way
where like I'll need to know the details
of you know the the Mughal court and
whatever like fucking 1600 or some shit
like I'll just be sent down this Rabbit
Hole where like
I'm trying to quench a thirst
that's kind of almost based in paranoia
right like I need to know this to
satisfy it's very pathological it's not
like I'm not like a disinterested
scholar who does it in a formal way it's
more like like I need there's a need
right to know certain things and once
you know those things it opens up more
questions and that's more things you
have to know
and
um
yeah I I would say it's it's rooted in a
pathology definitely
okay that's great thanks I will step
aside for someone else thanks man
yeah no problem
okay thank you Matt uh next up we have
uh Jude Bowl Jude bull as soon as I can
find you you will be uh
there you are okay go for it
yo Haas can you hear me
yep I can hear you
all right cool uh so first of all this
is my question but I just want to ask
you since you're a big um
no I wouldn't say it big but since
you're uh as you just said you're on the
Trump train
uh what do you what do you think about
like DeSantis in the future of the GOP
after Trump
like you support Santa's no for us we we
have a saying in our community it's
called the DeSantis deception so what we
basically think is going on is that
DeSantis is a deep State he's part of
that big Club one thousand percent he's
fully aligned with him he's fully on
board with him but he's weaponizing and
actually I'm going to speak more to this
he's weaponizing the culture War
and he's deceiving people with these
like anti-walk policies and these kinds
of policies to make him seem like he's
trustworthy right but on the
fundamentals which is always going to be
about things like foreign policy and you
know where does he stand in regards to
this system of unipolar American
imperialism he is fully on board with
the establishment and I think they're
propping him up to be an alternative to
Trump which speaks more to the fact that
it lends more Credence to the idea that
Trump is probably a threat to the
establishment so this and another thing
about um
that like fake anti-woke Turn you're
seeing that with CNN CNN has a new CEO
and they've Purge the libs the overt
like emotional lives or whatever and now
they're trying to they're trying to
compete with Fox News and Tucker and
again it leads Credence to the idea that
Tucker probably is considered Dangerous
by the people in power because the CNN
is like the most
even more than anything else it's the
most like establishment Outlet I can
think of
and they're doing this thing where
they're like oh yeah we're gonna like be
skeptical of the leftists extremists and
the woke shit
but that's just to gain your trust but
then like we can just keep the system
going basically we just need to earn
your trust again because you know you
think about it from their perspective
the one thing that happened in 2016
the American people don't trust the
institutions anymore they don't trust
the government they don't trust any of
that so they're going to do anything in
their power to get back your trust are
they gonna get you they're going to get
your trust and then
you know just like I think it's like how
it works for some farm animals like you
need to get the trust of a cow before
you kill it or some shit I don't know I
don't know if that's true but kind of
would make sense if it is right
yeah
um yeah I agree with you on that I'm not
a huge uh the Santa's guy I voted for uh
bottom in 2020 unfortunately uh
but uh I guess oh okay so my actual
question which is completely unrelated
to this one is what what's your stance
on uh sort of like left communism the
bodega crowd that sort of stuff Pebble
if you're watching this this one's for
you
uh all right yeah so I'll just try to
Historic size instead of giving my
outright opinion
so for me left-wing communism
has the same context as
oh it's you know it's gonna sound
outrageous but fascism right and the
reason for that is because with the
breakdown of the second International
and the first World War
it represents this kind of spontaneous
form of political extremism
that is being adopted by the ruling
intelligentsias
of Europe
these ruling intelligencies of Europe
these are creatures of what I call
classical modernity which is the 19th
century period of kind of free trade
modernity that World War One destroyed
right
and gave rise to the dominance of
America overtaking by Britain of America
and I see these thinkers like the
left-wing Communists and the fascists
respectively I see them as reacting to
that breakdown of classical modernity
and not so much trying to preserve it as
much as trying to
um take its prejudices to their fullest
conclusion in some kind of way so for
the left-wing Communists they're coming
from okay so classical Marxism take it
to the extreme their Prejudice is about
what classical Marxism entailed right
because the Bolsheviks deviated from
that and we need to like return back to
the like pure it's almost like it's kind
of like a salafist or you know like
Ultra Pure Puritan or Protestant
you right and then with fascists they're
doing something similar but with regard
to the nation-state
and with regard to actually yeah with
regard to socialism 19th century
socialism so I mean
I historicize these things now why have
they reacquired relevance today
that's mainly because
Ultra leftism is a creature of the new
left the new Left rejected Soviet Union
and even China and stuff is like too
authoritarian and two squares so these
were like punk rock Rebels without a
cause and they just anarchism and all
this other shit because you know it's
kind of just I feel like it is infantile
really and I think left communism is
just part of that Trend they don't want
to commit to having to have the
responsibility
of you know
the real existing form of Communism or
socialism so they're just like in this
really vain position
but I think left communism is just like
this kind of like hipster
thing where it's got you know that you
know that wojack of like the smug face
that's I think what it is it's like oh
you're a communist you must think that
the Soviet Union was true socialism
little did you know that I read bordigo
and he said that the Soviet Union was
actually a Bourgeois romantic Revolution
it was capitalism like I've read more
but it's good I think this is the hubris
of classical modernity it's the hubris
of the kind of glasses wearing guy
who doesn't want to submit to reality
and kind of thinks that
you know if the reasons the reason
Communists failed is because everyone's
dumber than me so yeah
I just that's how I see it
yeah all right I'm ready to chat right
now and they're roasting me for uh
evidently providing and also for being a
fanboy but uh yeah I want to say
agriculture Biden I'm not a button
supporter
um I am a femboy but that's not a crime
being a button square is uh and one last
thing uh well I want to say
um
what the what like uh the I you're
clearly uh as Mark's playlist I'm sure
you have uh leninist uh leanings uh and
I wanna
um which I assume you'd um have like an
anti-trotskies
um sort of view but for when I whenever
I see the P like the leftists on the
front lines like spreading the word
uh it's usually the trots right the guy
selling a newspaper by the by the street
um in uh and I don't know fucking uh any
any city in the world it's gonna be a
trot uh so do you think that there is a
space for them to be
uh like more like normalized into the
leftist movement
no I think there are very visible
presence doesn't it rather than reflect
their relevancy I think it reflects
their
um willingness to accost strangers more
than others
probably out of their fanaticism which
is something that Trotsky is
are known for
uh I don't think that is proof of
anything in terms of like
legitimizing them or taking them more
seriously than we do now I think they
just like to bother strangers about
things and force attention that and
rather than earn it right that's why I
like the internet better because on the
internet you have to earn people's
attention whereas if you accost
strangers you're kind of like forcing
them to pay attention to you which I I
kind of find a little bit perverse I
think you should earn an attention
rather than force it
yeah that makes sense all right I'm
gonna look next guys because Chad hates
me so all right uh doobie
um I gotta really take a piss really
fast is that all right
yeah of course I'll be right back
dude I I didn't know that you're a
fanboy
um expect to be demodited when the game
is over okay
fucking degenerate
uh okay let's see
next up is going to be my good friend
Pepe Pinochet
um I say my good friend because uh I
actually hate him
um so Pepe you there yep
okay just be ready sir
I mean it might take this guy uh a while
to piss out of his micro penis but wait
that's really rude okay that's a it's a
grown ass man you'd say that about
Oz has been kind enough to give us some
of his time on a Sunday
and you're gonna comment about his
micropenis
I feel like I feel like Haas has a
really thick girthy penis like I feel
like somebody sits down
probably as short and stubby as he is
but I think he's not aware that you're
like thinking about another man's penis
like that's that's the thing your mind
goes yeah
no okay no people say I mean people say
that like uh you know there's a lot of
grooming on Discord and typically
they're talking about children but I
really wouldn't be surprised if you know
uh kind of bug-minded men
um are able to be groomed on the
platform too and we just saw Jude ball
Jubal is I think an adult but it sounds
15.
um and then he says he's a fanboy right
Pepe and at this point given that you're
thinking about uh how does this cock so
much
I'm kind of wondering how long it is
before you're going to be a fanboy too
oh no I'm fine yeah
do I like to wear dresses yeah
where the fuck would I wear dresses I'm
a man come on baby come on baby just
give it a try
okay good
you're like at the edge of fucking
Fanboy mode right now
you're you're already at the point where
you're like you know you're like hey
doobie I'm gonna come on and I'm gonna
tell this guy off and be really
aggressive and then you come on and
you're like oh well you know okay I
agree with you sir and wow and now
you're talking about wearing dresses and
you're talking about the spins
I'm back what's going on I'm back this
man's trying to get me to wear dresses
like what the fuck oh my gosh yeah and
as soon as you left you started talking
about your dick it's really fucking
weird
fuck
um
so Haas
um yeah so I guess like I'll ask you
because I'm sure you've been asked this
question before so I'm just curious
um so
how would you magically have the secret
formula for making communism work on
like all of the actual intellectuals and
leaders of the past that tried to
implement it
what what do you mean like in in the
Soviet Union in China where it did work
oh it did amazing
okay
so all right I'm gonna so I'm gonna ask
you one one one more question
um now like you I don't like most
leftists uh they're a bunch of filthy
Godless sodomites preoccupied with their
consumerist and degenerate Lifestyles
they're pieces of shit fuck them in
their gay woke bullshit
um now with that being said you know if
there was ever like uh I don't know
kami's trying to come in power I I would
say commies and pedos would meet the
same fate as each other on the first day
that I I think that that's that would be
based as fuck and it warranted quite
frankly and so um
Mike I guess you know with the history
of violent oppression that occurred
under communism why should people like
you be properly dealt with and disposed
of like they were by Pinochet in Chile
if they were to try to come into power
so Pinochet was uh appointed by
Allende who was a Democratic Socialist
who did not create a dictatorship if
Allende was actually a communist he
would have created a proletarian
dictatorship purged the military and you
know he would have had an iron fist
where nobody's going to overthrow The
People's State right
so that cool wouldn't have been possible
so you know
I don't know what the point of that is
here but uh you know look look if
Communists are going to take power in
America
it's not gonna have to happen randomly
it's going to be a huge thing that
precipitates that there's going to be a
huge movement and then you can judge
right but here's what I think before
Communists ever going to take power in
America there's going to probably be
like two factions in society one is
based one is more like Maga a bunch of
hard-working Americans with hard hats
uh you know
rule Americans normal salt of the earth
Americans versus fucking d-gens and
these you know pink-haired furries and
whatever the fuck on the other side and
lib shit glasses wearing journalists on
the other side all right so Society is
going to be divided into those two
factions if you want to be with the
cringed Libs oh really you can be with
the cringe lips is that so well no
here's my idea so there would be a
massive colon cleansing all of these
sodomites and degenerates and yeah like
these Libs and you know the Deep Staters
the corporations and their you know
rainbow bullshit and you know they just
like to fuck everybody
um yeah I mean Royal cleanse and commies
would be with them I mean that's just
that's what I think it would
really it would really improve the the
the the health of the guts of the nation
you know
uh you know you mentioned Pinochet did
you know that Pinochet was a globalist I
don't know if you know that
well yeah so you know do you think
Pinochet was like this based
conservative Trad guy no no no he was
actually so despite what a lot of people
like to call him a fascist and all of
this shit he wasn't
um he was actually
more or less influenced by you know the
um I guess you could say more
libertarian no you don't know
Libertarians no he was those were not
Libertarians those were neoliberal
ghouls
and Spooks and that's what Pinochet was
he was a globalist tool and he brought
degeneracy to Chile so congrats dude I
mean like you're talking about you know
the rainbow movement and all that shit
well Chile has that thanks to Pinochet
so thank him for that okay
there was like we can just eat goits in
the fucking Soviet Union and be a bunch
of um I don't know subservient mindless
fucking idiots and and just do what
we're doing yeah yeah you're repeating
you're repeating like shit amazing
you're repeating like shit-lib talking
points about the Soviets it's not even a
shit-lib talking point yes it is
okay you know what why don't you look at
photos from the Soviet Union in the
1950s and see if you see freak shows I
don't think you're gonna see any I think
you're gonna see yeah yeah I mean yeah
we can also look at you know millions of
people fucking dead in Ukraine
um you know during the Commodore if you
look at these people dead all across
history in anything people just don't
kill him as Great Purge
uh 20 trillion
you know what's a shame is that um
we kind of attacked the wrong side a
little bit just a little bit that would
have would have been pretty nice seeing
um
yeah you know
so you know clarify something never had
come into power and communism was never
big I mean the world had been such a
better place I mean you guys are filth
okay can I can I clarify something
really quickly because I feel like uh I
missed because I'm I'm like the host but
I'm also like following a discussion
right and I'm curious
um it sounded like earlier you were
advocating for cleansing a ton of people
and now you're using uh the idea that
you know some kind of perpetuated to to
make their uh you know Stone skulls real
um using that as like a talking point
but it seems like you're also saying
that you didn't act violence if you
could to realize your political ideals
right
um oh no no so when you have when you
had the the red you know the whole uh I
mean basically you were having Civil
Wars all over Europe at the time between
Communists basically and and um the
right-wing reactionaries and so I I do
think that when you have a have a group
like the Communists that we're trying to
violently you know impose their will
upon you know you don't really have it
you don't really have an issue you have
to fight them you have to fight them
that's not genocide but it's like it's
like you're saying we so by we you do
mean the globalists and the financial
capitalists and the bankers no I'm a
nationalist okay you're not a
nationalist oh um oh why because I have
to be some uh fucking idiot commie to be
an actual nationalist amazing you don't
even have to be a communist you could
just be like a Ron Paul you know
constitutionalist you know if you're
saying you're a nationalist and you're
defending like what the Russian white
guards they're all bankrolled by the
globalists and like the bankers like you
don't understand the history of the Cold
War one side was basing its power on
like you know people on like Agriculture
and oil and like hard stuff right the
other side was based it's basing its
power in an international banking system
you need to understand that the Cold War
was not fought between freedom-loving
democracy or Freedom loving you know
based Trad men and Communists the bass
Trad men were the Communists the Cold
War on the other side was being fought
by literal Spooks and ghouls
Rockefellers and all the shit you're
seeing today that you see as a sign of
cultural degeneracy all that kind of
shit that all came from them they were
all anti-communists even though you're
saying right-wing reactionaries were
fighting communists
well just like the other Battalion no no
let me ask you a question yeah because
the mainstream the mainstream left and
even concert even what quote unquote
conservatives okay in the west all
denounce fucking fascism all right so
they to say that
to say that people that were fascist or
or further right
uh to say that they were on the or we're
on the same side or that's actually what
they envisioned I think that's that's
bullshit
I want to live with you guys well it's
pretty it's been proven in it okay it's
been proven in two ways in Italy
propaganda do and the you know the
Masonic Lodge I forget the logic's name
exactly in Italy that gladio operation
gladio in Europe propped up
um you know the neo-fascists in Italy as
tools of the globalists that's literally
recorded fact then you have the former
Nazis that were recruited in by the Cold
War it's a fight communism and either as
mercenaries abroad or you know as
directly as Spooks and the intelligence
agencies and shit so it's like you know
you
it pretty much is the case it pretty
much is the case they were on the same
team afterwards now are there some
exceptions there's European new right
thinkers
who aligned more with the Soviet Union
more with Communism but they pretty much
denounced fascism and just said we're
not fascists but we are like the third
position we're not Communists either but
they did they also denounced the Nazis
and stuff too so it's like you know
yeah I hate to break it to you but
whoever has been feeding you this shit
that's like oh yeah there's the based
right-wing reactionary he's fighting
communism and these are like Trad men
defending their way of life no you don't
wait wait hold on a second hold on
despite what you you may think I'm not
gonna defend him but do you think that
do you think that the Nazi Germans were
just some soy boys who wanted that were
fighting for the right for you know boys
to dress like fucking girls and whatever
the fuck I mean literally um yes I think
one of the first LGBT movements was the
Nazi movement and that's Ernest Rahm
it's all been proven and uh Soviet
thinkers have talked about it
foreign
Paul right
so I I mean I would say I have
similarities with him but much more
nationalistic um I won't even get into
all of it but
um
so do you think that being a you can be
a quote unquote like Maga Republican
and be against what I would call uh you
know a corporate exploitation
exploitation by the wealthy
some people will say like uh
exploitation is when fucking you know
um you don't pay someone like you don't
pay someone for emotional labor or
something what do you what do you mean
specifically do I think Maga can be
anti-corporate yes
do I think Maga will be against some
like abstract principle of explanation
we'll just clarify what you mean by that
oh I mean I I I guess when it comes to
um
I I probably don't have to get in get
into it with you how those with money
are pretty good at making themselves
wealthier at the expense of of the
lowest common denominator in America and
the average American yeah but like you
have to realize it's a rigged system we
do live in this like corporate socialism
system where the people at top
are yeah I mean a lot of them are
obviously they have to be they're
skilled at what they do but there's also
ways in which they're limiting human
potential at the bottom
and that's how it works for every kind
of Monopoly or whatever in history like
they're
see let me tell you let me tell you in
feudal times
this is how it worked the king and the
aristocracy
ruled by the sword
so all the stronger people and From
Below who's had potential rose up with
the sword overthrew him and took power
right that's a really broad
generalization but you can't do that in
a democratic state or in a modern State
because we're not living in you know
barbaric times in which there's constant
you know Direct
uh Wars for power internally
so you know you do have to think about
okay economically are we living in a
monopoly system where people's ability
to have Prosperity is being Limited
you know is it rigged it is rigged you
know
okay so let me uh well okay I I would
agree to a large extent now do you think
that okay first of all when it comes to
democracy are you against democracy
because I I really don't I've never
watched your shit so uh it depends on
what people mean am I am I against the
open Society liberal democracy yes am I
against democracy in terms of like
the rule a state reflecting the
character of the people the rule the
needs of the people the interests of the
people I think a state should reflect
those things I do believe in in that
sense I believe in democracy I believe
in a Democratic Republic 19th century
Democratic Republic that's what I
believe
okay but what about like when with like
Jeffersonian capitalism
yeah I've I used to be there on that
kind of on board with that then you know
Hamilton and the larouche movement talks
about this a lot
Hamilton was also uniquely American
because Hamilton wanted a state bank
which we don't have we have the Federal
Reserve instead State Bank which you
know has productive investments in the
economy
to build like you know forces of
production build infrastructure
promote things like that that create
common prosperity
so you know I'm for that but I think
even faster for that
they may have said that but in practice
what fascist did was bail out the dead
monopolies and keep them as zombie
corporations based on debt and shit so
it's like you know you if
theory in practice you know
all right well I don't have any more
questions all right see ya
thank you
uh next up we have uh my good friend
browsers browsers as soon as you are
ready you can speak
uh hi
thanks for coming on
um I am curious you've said a couple
times that you're you know anti-woke
tired of all the LGBT stuff
cetera I think a lot of people
agree with that but I'm curious if you
became the premier of whatever Society
you wanted to make what exactly would
your social policy be as far as
the woke stuff right the race the LGBT
et cetera Etc
uh as far as social policy I I would as
far as that's concerned yeah you can say
I'm like a Libertarian I don't want the
state
to be deciding that now as far as things
now there there are like things where
you have to make a decision like gay
marriage and shit
I mean I think I would say I would not
set the policy I would I would let that
reflect the culture of the people right
if majority of people are for it
if there's no major Division if there's
a major division over the issue I would
say forget about it right but if there's
no division over it and people are like
okay we're fine with gay marriage
then I would keep it in place
uh I wouldn't get rid of it
but
the woke agenda isn't really enforced by
law yet it's mostly enforced by ngos
and these like paralegal institutions so
there's two things I would do
if I was in power if I was dictator one
I would completely eliminate the whole
NGO Academia whatever Civil Society
complex by which they try to manufacture
our culture mainstream media all that
gets eliminated okay
second thing laws are made
protecting children I would definitely
promote laws to defend children because
we don't have enough of those
that's why there's so much controversy
around the whole thing now and after you
get those two things about uh get those
two things taken care of that's it I
would not criminalize alternative sexual
practices
uh I would not I would also ensure that
people's right to privacy
is protected
and part of the right to privacy is also
people have the right to be sexual
minorities that will be protected that
should be protected by law whether you
want to call it civil rights or
something else nobody's going to get
beaten or attacked or whatever because
of their sexuality I'm against that
so but you know our pride parade is
going to be legal probably not that's
completely offensive to children
to families and to Society at large I
would definitely probably you know those
would either of those would be outlawed
or the social basis for creating them
which tends to come from like Chase Bank
and all these fucking corporations that
would be eliminated so yeah that that
would be my view
all right that's all I got thanks a lot
yup no problem thank you
okay so next stuff we have uh we're
gonna go with the eagle Eagle
whenever you're ready
who do you think really calls 911 like
aside from the glueless agenda like who
do you actually think caused it uh I
don't know if I'm allowed to say this on
YouTube
but I'm gonna
actually I I'm
don't think
do you think about Pol Pot like are you
a revisionist are you just gonna like uh
support dengueing in the market I know
you support salt what's your point
okay do I uphold Paul pod in the same
way that I upload Stalin no I don't I I
think Stalin was ahead because there's
heads of Marxism you know there's like
images of like marks Engels Lenin style
and mouth Paul's not part of those hits
right but
that being said did
all right so you support Morkies you you
basically support capitalism at that
point just with Chinese characteristics
against
um traditional Marxism
I think China is associated socialist
state which need to purge the
intellectuals but that's not different
is a redditor you just like marketizing
the economy the pro the problem with
with what Paul Paul did is that
first of all the social Devastation
gonna is gonna be caused by that the
second thing is that
you can try to start from scratch to
build up your productive forces but it
it doesn't fit with the geopolitical
realities of polarity so I don't know I
don't think you can just like go from
scratch go to agrarian socials and build
back up I don't think it's possible the
thing that interests me when it comes to
Paul Potters not that I think what he
was trying to do was possible I don't
think it was possible definitely not but
why do you support don't you open he
goes completely against most you don't
think that's my main point he doesn't he
doesn't here's here's how dang Xiaoping
fulfills that in many ways thanks
Xiaoping
already takes for granted the Smashing
of this kind of soviet-style bureaucracy
which were the the professional
managerial glasses wearers by the way
they get smashed then Deng Xiaoping
unleashes the productive forces and the
economy is not based on what the glasses
wearers say anymore the economy is based
on the actual Merit and strength of you
know the industriousness of the people
which Industries actually deserve to
survive opening Gucci stores Gucci's
base China's cool cool I hope they have
their own Chinese Gucci one day their
own version of that and their own first
so all the writers could wear their
Gucci glasses see here's the thing
redditers don't what are you talking
about redditors don't wear fucking Gucci
Predators fucking wear uh North Face or
some shit they don't fucking wear Gucci
I don't know what the fuck you're
talking about
foreign
do you wear Gucci by the way like didn't
you say you have to uh quit streaming to
go back to law school because you don't
have enough money
no I never said that at all
but you said you had to quit doing as a
full-time job
I thought you said the reverse no I said
I said the insecurity I'm making enough
money now but like how long will this
last with all the D platforming shit I
just want to have a backup you know
so like you don't have enough money
though right
you go aren't you like 15 years old like
yeah I I definitely have enough money
politics Discord server
it's kind of sad
it's really weird actually yeah okay
well it's kind of better no no it's kind
of better if I'm a child because
actually I don't have a job I don't have
a job but you don't have the job you
spend your life on politics Discord
server that's true you probably are like
homeless yeah the only thing I've got to
look forward to in my life is the uh
Discord kittens uh that catfish me every
so often yeah
okay thank you God I love you okay all
right hey tell your mom to call me back
uh next up we've got uh data data oh
actually uh no yeah we will do data data
go for it
hello Hans can you hear me yep I can
hear you
yeah let me just clear one thing uh the
person previously mentioned about
the they said 2.4 trillion is 2.3
trillion I believe of the supposedly
lost money the day prior to 9 11.
um the the money was never lost it was
simply unaccounted for this is what um
Donald Rumsfeld said and after I think a
few weeks
after 9 11 they actually managed to
account for all that money again
um it was from the 1999 budget where uh
not the budget sorry I think it was like
7.3 trillion total and like
one uh 2.3 trillion have been
unaccounted for and they might actually
counted wait just to play The Devil's
Advocate since money is fake and they
can make as much as they want
don't you think it's possible that they
just like
retroactively said oh yeah we're gonna
account for it after the fact that it
was missing that's a possibility but
again I don't have to see evidence for
that so yeah yeah I just think it's a
little sus right just a little bit Yeah
I was gonna explain that basically like
you know in the 1990s 2000s it was huge
like technological advancements and
during this like transformation like the
technology they use to count this
um basically
um they didn't catch up to it and they
did not they weren't managed to track it
but they manually did so yeah that
wasn't my question my question is about
Iran
um in my personal opinion
Iran is the greatest threat not just the
Middle East but I would say almost the
world
um now I'll let you respond to that I'll
just give you some reasons why I think
that is the case uh firstly they're like
they fund pretty much the three worst
groups in the Middle East Hamas
Hezbollah and the houthis in Yemen
um as well as that they threaten our
Ally of Israel they're funded by Russia
which are practically the new Nazis
because they are
and uh last but not least I would say uh
what was my last point oh they've been
violating a lot of the U.N
um sanctions was play some like the
security cameras have been tearing down
U.N security cameras over their uh
military bases and they probably have a
lot of they they also want a nuclear uh
Arsenal too after Trump pulled out of
their arms so
yeah
what yeah I mean to me Iran is
definitely up there top five most based
uh countries in the world I do want the
per I want the Persian Empire to be
restored I think it just has to be
restored deserves to be restored must be
restored
um my problem with Iran is that
sometimes it's not
I think Iran needs Azerbaijan
needs to expand territorially and it
definitely is not there yet with the
Islamic Republic I don't think it is
Maybe I'm Wrong right but that's my only
critique of Iran is the Islamic Republic
will not give us the return of the
safavid empire
uh
in Iran I would be considered an ultra
Giga hardliner like super hardliner like
we need nukes give us nukes now yeah
yeah you think you can trust wrong with
the nukes
I want Iran to have as much nukes as
possible really I think Iran is one of
the greatest he says only like let me
tell you the truth there's only like
five civilizations in the world that's
the truth and pers was one of them all
right so if anyone deserves to have
nukes it's wrong
this is kind of an hinge now giving a
raw nukes is uh leads to destruction
because there's certain countries if you
give them nukes they don't care that
other countries have nukes they're just
going to fucking nuke them and Iran
probably is one of them it's uh well I
mean
I don't think Iran's gonna nuke I don't
think they're gonna nuke anyone but uh I
think I think the issue here is that
Iran has been revived it's this dormant
civilization for so long it's been
dormant and sleeping and it revived
suddenly and that's inconvenient for
this kind of unipolar system we have
which kind of wants the US to be the
only Power in the world better for
everyone in my opinion well I mean put
it this way let's just be realistic here
us is 300 years old Iran is a thousand
it's probably the oldest Empire in the
whole world maybe right so you're more
successful than them you know it's been
300 years dude I mean like I'm an
American at the end of the day okay but
I I follow the very American tradition
of having great envy and respect
reverence and interest in these like
other cultures and civilizations like
that's what Americans do the founding
fathers are the same way and I'm telling
you Iran is not going back into the bag
they're not going back into the box
you're going to have to deal with the
fact that there isn't Iran there's an
Iranian world there's a Persian world
and we and we need what we need to do is
we need to work together
to coexist we need to work together to
coexist because we're they're not going
to submit to us they're not going to
submit to us we're only 300 years old as
a as a country so quickly do you support
like the funding of uh Hamas and
Hezbollah uh for legal purposes no
comment
okay so that's a yes uh what about the
houthis in Yemen do you support them
or not uh for legal purposes no comment
okay so that's another yes okay so uh
wait so uh secondarily what about Iran's
um
wait yeah so what about Iran's
threatening of Israel do you like that
or no uh Israel's a fake country so I
don't really care you know Iran
I think Iran should probably occupy
Israel probably they should just have
the Persian Empire again I don't know
maybe for a little bit
see this is what you always shit on like
you know pro-westerners for being like
these
like blood bloody like you know
imperialists well you just sound exactly
the same not actually not really like
Genghis Khan was pretty good no I'll
tell you what I'll tell you why I'll
tell you why I'll tell you why I don't
know I'll tell you why I'll tell you
where I'm coming from I just want to
share my perspective Genghis Khan was
pretty bloody okay but Genghis Khan had
the sanction of tradition he was coming
from somewhere my problem with the West
isn't that it's um it's expansionistic
and it's conquering places my problem
with the West is that it conquers and it
expands
on the basis of thin air on the basis of
just no tradition no grounding no solid
basis purely money for money's own sake
nothing human at all purely nihilistic
just annihilating people for its own
sake that's my problem with the West
now I'm not for the record for the
record I've been saying this should
ingest do I want Iran to invade its
neighbors and shit no I don't okay I'm I
I think countries should respect the
sovereignty of other countries but that
being said you mentioned Israel in my
perspective Israel is not a real country
and Iran is a very very real
civilization so comparing them is just I
don't even think when you talk about
Israel what you really mean is Britain
or you really mean is the U.S or what
you really mean is like your url is a is
a standalone country it's it's uh I I
don't I don't I don't I don't see that I
don't see where that's coming because
like 12 of its military budget is
America but it doesn't really mean it no
I just mean it I mean like where does
Israel come from where does that even
come from like that's just completely
fake well it has tradition in certain
holy books
certainly no no it doesn't because
you're you're trying to say oh it's Jews
no there's Iranian Jews who were big in
the Empire by the way there's ottoman
Jews there's Russian Jews there's Jews
all over the world and it's a religion
it's not it's not the basis of a you
know yeah it's not gonna be the basis of
a modern liberal
secular state
and just a quick other thing you
mentioned about it was ages ago it was
one I can't remember which question it
was but about solomoni about Trump's
decision you know to for an airstrike do
you agree that was a good decision by
the Trump uh Administration or bad
decision
on on behalf of whose interests on
behalf of the Maga movement
half of your interests I don't know I
mean yeah on behalf of the Maga movement
it was a disaster it was just done to
appease the neocons and the Rhino
Republicans and Israel all forces
maybe discounting Israel right
the the decision was a good one
uh no simply no well let me explain let
me explain simply because uh the reason
for why Trump did a is self-defense
basically
um because it was it was clear from
evidence that solimani was going to
Target uh American citizens station
there but also
um you know uh citizens of the countries
uh there are two I I just think it's
kind of not to insult you right because
you've been respectful so far but just
in general I think it's kind of cucked
to try and just like explain decisions
Trump made that were clearly not his and
I'll explain why I think that Trump made
it very clear why the hell are we in the
Middle East it's a land of sand and
blood that's what he said so that the
fact that we have troops in the Middle
East in the first place is already a
disaster the second thing is that why
would Trump want to intervene sorry the
second thing is that Trump acknowledged
that those guys solomoni the syrians
they've been fighting Isis that's what
Solomon he's been doing in the Middle
East the whole time he's been fighting
Isis that's why he's been there and
doing all that stuff so that's Isis and
Trump acknowledged that in his 2016
campaign
and then third of all Trump did not want
to get involved in any more foreign
interventions but the killing of
solomoni got us nearly on the brink of
War
so I don't think Trump himself it was in
his it was his decision it was an
example of his weakness as a leader that
he's being led along you know by Israel
and by the neoconservative lobby to do
this shit it's clearly not even
something he believes he should have
done I mean again maybe but then like he
was Target he was going to Target Iraqi
civilians and American civilian station
in Iraq all right what American
civilians in Iraq what are you talking
about is that like a vacation well I'm
reading his I'm reading his actual the
um I can send you it the kind of the
speech you know you know I after they
take decisions yeah it was just a post
talk justification for something that
was in the interest of Israel and then
see I'll tell you I'll tell you the real
reason right the reason he's gonna go
into a conspiratorial garbage but I'll
let you I'll let you go go for it I mean
it was a conspiracy everything is a
conspiracy right the reason they killed
solimani was because he was an extremely
extremely effective asset of the Iranian
military and he was an extremely
effective he was an extremely effective
agent as far as the larger strategic war
with Israel was concerned so they got
him to weaken Iran and weaken Iran's
influence on the region and by proxy
you know strengthen the power of Iran's
enemies like Saudi Arabia and Israel
again I think if if you know article 51
of the U.N Charter is is ultimately used
to defend not just your own civilians
but also people you are allied with but
that needs a vote you need that U.N
security resolution vote right I think
they did I can't fucking remember nobody
voted to kill suleimani that never
happened no unthinkable
I don't know the law behind it but
that's what it was the they decided
Unthinkable there was no U.N vote I
think the U.N condemned The Killing
actually
did they okay fair enough I can see that
that's true but um
um I'll just go one more question about
um Iraq
uh firstly you know I mean I was again
I'm against the Iraq war on the basis
that it made Iran stronger
um I think Iran is the biggest enemy and
always has been and The Rock was kind of
like the the little little fly on the on
the dragon if you will
um do you think
um and this kind of like to know now
911. uh do you think
uh any of the awards any things we've
engaged in in the Middle East as an
American's perspective was justified so
I think Afghanistan for example was
totally and wholly Justified I think it
was fucked up and I think Iraq was
justified holy too
um in kind of like a contemporaneous
setting at the time and I think Iraq did
really well yeah Obama Obama I think
that as Americans when we try to justify
why we a North American country
are halfway across the world in the
middle of a desert
we are kind of having to twist ourselves
into a pretzel beyond the threshold of
Common Sense and it's it's I just see it
as a kind of like I don't want to insult
but I see it as a kind of like coping
mechanism you know like I just see it as
like yeah our Elites have all these
weird foreign adventurers that have
nothing to do with us back at home and
we're just gonna find ways to
rationalize it because the world has to
make sense to us
as you said prior like ages ago after
World War II we kind of I mean prior to
that we kind of replaced Great Britain
as this um as the yeah but we we did so
at the expense of our own Republic our
own Constitution our own people like you
know we had the CIA created we we had
the uh offshore and banking network of
the British Empire you know all of that
was used to basically control our
country and buy out our politicians and
Lobby our politicians so it's like it
was a disaster we should have never be
we were Ron Paul's right we were never
meant to become an empire ever
I mean I mean to a certain extent short
but like I intervention is I think is a
very it can be a very good tool if it
necessarily maximizes the person the
people at home so I agree I might agree
with you that certain interventions as
kind of uh what's the word kind of
impeded our Liberty to a certain extent
sure
um but things like the CIA I I disagree
I think the CIA are
um I mean they've done very questionable
things sure but they're they are they
can be a tool for good they have powers
and uh contacts which can protect
American citizens but as well as that
can ascertain you know uh resources
abroad which can be utilized back at
home I I don't think they're I don't
think they care about American citizens
I think that they whatever help they've
done for American citizens if any out of
doubt there's been any I think the harm
has vastly outweighed any help they've
done for American citizens abroad I
think you know
I asked the CIA is he's is you know it's
experimented on Americans it's done
horrible things to Americans at home
you know I think it's I think this is
kind of like Stockholm syndrome you know
like we're living with a very abusive
uh you know
extremely authoritarian state that
doesn't give a shit about the people
living under it but only cares about the
ruling class
that you know it's it fulfills the
interests of
and meanwhile it's like okay yeah we can
get breadcrumbs and then it just abuses
and it beats the shit out of its people
and we're left with nothing and they
don't even care about us at all and then
I as human beings we want to feel like
there's a powerful force acting on our
behalf and we have a powerful Guardian
looking out for us
and so I can see how people you know try
to adopt positive views of the CIA and
positive views of like
you know the American state in general
but the truth is it's
it's a Twist it's like this it's like a
battered wife syndrome you know
Stockholm Syndrome
I mean okay that's fair um I'm not gonna
go too far I'm gonna let someone else
take it over me because I've been
hogging it but
um I just believe that America is the
global policeman well there's multiple
um and I think if you were to
you know if I if you were to ask most
people would you rather live in China
or America most people would choose
America it's you know much more Liberty
we have better you know options
resources so and so forth and I think we
need to combat uh there's a theory
called the thus least trap in um have
you heard it before I don't know if you
yeah I have that I have yeah do you do
you do you think that is kind of like um
an anachronistic thing now do you think
that people no longer kind of build up
to these big big you know battles in the
end to see who's gonna uh be the number
one leader or do you think like I I
think there's a war the war has always
been internal right whatever is going on
with China
yeah it's challenging the US Empire but
I think American Patriots should Ally
with China because we need to both bring
down this Empire because this Empire
oppresses us back at home
and China isn't trying to build an
Empire by the way
um they're they're building an economic
belt and Road initiative but that's
based on multilateral sovereignty and if
China is more robust and prosperous
economically than we are
we can step up our game let's have a
win-win situation we don't have to come
at the expense of each other let's build
our productive forces and let's all rise
together that's what I believe and
that's what I'm sure the Chinese believe
yeah it's the issue I agree with you to
a certain politicians or scumbags and if
you for example if America was to pull
out of all their bases all all of their
power uh you know and creating these you
know myriads of power vacuums it's just
going to be taken up by an equally uh
Power hungry nation and the issue has
just been uh passed on to another person
and you're from your perspective so so
America like I'm taking America out of
the Middle East doesn't solve anything
I don't agree with that I don't think
that versus the greatest
I don't think it's like uh
because I can't raise kids in America I
think sorry I got a donation thank you
so much emirio I don't think it's a game
I think when a rising power
sorry when a power when an Empire gets
overthrown and a new Empire takes its
place where a new power takes its place
the form is also different it's not like
they're doing the same things as each
other the form is also different so the
reality of foreign interventions and
Universal human rights and all that kind
of stuff that's going to decline with
America
and it's going to be replaced by a
multi-polar world where if China as a
hegemonic power is going to be asserting
influence it's not going to be through
politics it's probably going to be
economically in a very indirect way so I
think the form of Chinese hegemony will
be very different
than American
oh that was interesting all right I've
got two more questions I won't respond
to you do you think
um veto power in the U.N I think it's
five nations have it do you think that
is a positive or negative for the world
and do you think all countries should be
forced to join and adhere to the ICC and
icj which is you know at the moment like
for example America is not
um do you think those two questions and
I won't respond thank you
um The veto The veto power
um
yeah I mean yeah I definitely would be
against China and Russia's veto power
being taken away which is the only
reason
sorry
hello
uh data were you trying to speak
yeah yeah
but but this is the problem with my
ideology you would say America should
deserve to have this veto power taken
away right
not necessarily I just I I don't wait
yeah but this is the issue though if
someone from your perspective will say
well you know U.N nations want to
address Israeli war crimes but every
time they try and pass a resolution the
U.N knows vetoes it is that an issue on
your on your from your perspective
yeah but I think that probably has more
to do with like who's in power in the US
also I think the U.N completely has to
be changed like totally I don't know
like so I don't know that's what I'm
saying not particularly like the whole
thing probably has to change the idea of
five countries having Supreme say over
everyone else probably has to change you
know there's probably need to be more
there's a
um um
there's a partisanship across Democrats
and Republicans for pro-israel right
yeah I'm aware of that
yeah so it doesn't matter who's in power
in America they're always going to be
vetoing like no no no well when I say
power I don't mean like the two parties
the one of the two parties in the two
parties
and the billionaires right yeah yeah I
mean the whole thing yeah
fair enough and what about the ICC and
icj
I think that multilateral and bilateral
settlements of international issues are
better
sure so what about for example like you
know Russia at the moment so Russia
probably commit a lot of war crimes
right but because they don't necessarily
have to join the ICC and icj
uh whatever the ICC and icj
um whatever they come up to a conclusion
it's non-binding right so Russia does
not have to adhere to anything they say
is that an issue so Russia can just
commit war crimes and you know it
doesn't really get much say I think the
the my
love you
uh next up we have uh intentionally
blank uh go for it
Mr blank are you speaking
hello can you hear me yeah I can hear
you yeah you can hear me fuck you Haas
you're a fucking bitch you sit here and
spit Russian propaganda and you are the
same motherfucker you are no different
than the globalist you claim to fucking
be against and all this other bullshit
you are a fucking pussy you're a
keyboard Warrior fucking bitch made
motherfucker I swear to God I will beat
the fuck out of you so you know what I
challenge you to a motherfucking boxing
match and if you don't accept I prove in
front of all your fucking little fans
and shit you are a fucking bitch all
right let's meet up right now actually
right now that's unrealistic it's
fucking 9 p.m on a Sunday bro
and hit my DMs and I'll fucking help you
set this shit up I swear to fucking God
you are bitching out oh here's here's
what I'm gonna tell you to do I'm gonna
tell you to go to CVS and buy a tissue
boxing out once again
pussy I will get the shit out of you and
you're a bitch now you claim to be this
man in this blue collar advocator
fucking you know whatever but you are a
pussy you sit there and talk all this
shit let's have a samurai let's have a
samurai let's have a samurai duel
we'll have it on an island we'll have an
island outside of the U.S jurisdiction
you have a sword I have a sword we go
Island outside of U.S jurisdiction
Samurai battle what do you think you're
bitching out you are bitching out boxing
match that doesn't sound like bitching
out I think he's raising mistakes and
he's saying hey find an island where you
can you seem so passionate about this I
don't think yeah
I've told you I've told you go fucking
DM me
so Mr blank why don't you post a
physique pics in chat so that we know
that you're even like you know a human
being
can you post that and chat I'll fucking
uh not in chat I'll fucking DM it is
meeting this guy in real life and
fighting him but you won't post your
fucking absence
I mean I never said I had ABS but I'll
fucking do that give me a minute fuck
you hazy you pussy post a muscle of some
sort
yeah you kind of have this like you have
this weighing in your voice it's very
feminine it's very feminine
this kind of like accent where it's like
I don't know what it is it's a little
bit you know
you know the song by The Wiggles that's
like that song by the trailer that it
was past his bedtime so right yeah his
mom found out
yeah did he leave or
yeah he muted indefined himself when I
told him to post his muscle oh yes yeah
very awkward
okay okay I'll give you an update on
that when he when he gets back to me
um next stop
we have uh the Quan please the Quan
whenever you're ready
hey there
I guess he's not there okay then we have
Lowell's go for it
this guy too holy shit wait are you
there
can you hear me yeah oh fuck it's it can
you go hey go forward
yeah
um so a while ago you said that um
vegans are evil or something like that
um
what do you mean by by that can you like
explain
yeah I said that vegans are actually bad
people
oh yeah vegan's a bad people
um yeah what
what do you mean by that do you still
hold that view
yeah broadly I do I think people who
just like kind of
think that they can change I mean it
depends if it's a mission it's like a if
it's a moral vegan yes but if it's like
someone like oh I have an allergy it's
my religion or something then no they're
not bad but if it's like if they're like
evangelizing it then yes they're bad
people
so
someone who decides to
um not use animal products for moral
reasons is a bad person
uh I think in some sense yeah I mean God
gave us animals to eat and you know
they're kind of being ungrateful if I'm
being honest
um
hey
so
saying that vegans are bad people
because they
um and not
um eating animals because God gave us
animals to kill a name yeah also it's
also I also do believe that there's
something inherently
necessary about acknowledging the
mortality of the species even our
species and part of how we do that is we
eat animals we do it to remind ourselves
just how thin the line is we came from
the jungle and you know we need to
acknowledge that we can't take our
Humanity for granted right that's what I
think eating animals symbolizes so when
vegans just stop doing that for like
moral reasons I feel like their morality
is satanic I feel like they're kind of
telling us that
oh I'm a good person because I'm not
gonna acknowledge a fundamental fact of
life in existence well if you're not
going to acknowledge that fact I think
it kind of makes you a little inhuman
right I think you're more likely to be
an inhuman person who like if you were
to choose between saving a puppy and
saving a human child you probably save
The Puppy right I remember that there's
a guy on YouTube he was a vegan and he
was asked the question
do you feel more bad when a child
suffers or if a chicken suffers and he
said the chicken right so I just feel
like it makes you more inhuman as well
but do you think that's
the view of all vegans like all moral
vegans and just I'll just use the term
vegan to describe just uh yeah yeah
every single one all of them
you have him periods modern Revolution
yeah I do
can you post them in the texture yeah
sure it's uh
um it's in folder five in the chat
folder five yeah yeah it's a Google
Drive I just linked it
yeah it's LinkedIn the AMA discussion
chat
is folder five
right there
yeah I mean AMA discussion
I think the mods deleted it let me post
it again because I yeah so yeah click
here folder five there's some in folder
seven too but
uh it's mainly uh folder five
right
okay so while you're at while you're
going through that I'm going to uh move
on to somebody else it's pretty in-depth
so it's going to take you a little bit
okay
um yeah folder five on the the red side
um okay so we're going back to Daquan
uh decorum whenever you're ready go for
it
if you're not there again I'm gonna
fucking send the boxer nerd dude after
you
are you serious Danny you're not there a
little bit I know I'm here I'm here I'm
here God damn it oh dude you fucking had
me muted num nuts I was trying to
message you that I was fucking muted I
apologize go for it there we go so sorry
sorry I've been waiting a long time now
uh you you I from what I've heard from
you I've never heard from you because I
guess you're just a nobody but um
you do seem like a little based on
topics I mean you are like Communists so
you're you're almost as cringe as like
like a a vegan but I do have to ask you
on this one take okay
um I'm under the belief that we are not
all created equal and that our founding
fathers were wrong
um and that we do not deserve like
equivalent votes what do you think
I mean you can leave dude this is our
country that's what the country's based
on
okay sure and we can change we can
change things can we not
I doubt the majority I doubt you're
going to succeed you can try though I I
think we could I mean we we've made
plenty of changes before women used to
be able to not are used to not be able
to vote and I see that um as we're
getting like older as a species as we're
like progressing further we realizing
that people are just really really
fucking dumb and incompetent and other
useless for society because I I'm more
of a technocrat I'll admit that yeah you
know what let me tell you the truth
you're right 90 of people are retarded
mentally probably and uh absolutely they
sh and I they probably shouldn't be
allowed to have a public opinion I wish
I could enforce that but here's the sad
truth the reason it hurts me that people
are retarded is because at the end of
the day I'm no better than them so the
fact that people are retarded is an
indictment even on me that's why it
depresses me it's to do the same for you
and if it doesn't you're just coping
this is the truth of our species this is
this is the truth absolutely not I agree
it is I'll give you to you this one
there's no red line there's no nothing
makes you better nothing makes you
better than a retard nothing oh
absolutely absolutely
I'll tell you you this right so it's an
indictment on all of us yeah you're
gonna you're gonna hate me because I'm a
landlord right I'm also an account with
the CPA okay
um yeah I am in a CPA so that's kind of
like it's kind of redundant for me to
say that so
um doobie thank you so much man
appreciate you so obviously also I have
one it's awesome I own a bit of problems
right now uh so
nobodies compared to me I provide much
more than
probably anybody on here because I also
provide a tutoring services so I got
like the quad Factor going here
all right
um I I should have much more power as
far as voting compared to the average
retard that works all right you say that
oh how are you going to make it happen
I believe as we progress further in
society we're not going to go down this
really cringe continent do you think
we're going to progress you think we're
progressing inevitably in a direction
yeah of technocracy absolutely
yeah but okay so technography to you
means landlords votes count more no no
no no no like the the uh like the Highly
Educated like the more like the more
skilled the more oh yeah well you can
bet you can bet on that and I'm gonna
bet on my maoist rule Maga
uh Uprising yeah
I don't think that we're going to have
that kind of Uprising because I think
that like as like resources get more
scarce as we realize that some people
are just a vein to the exactly I think
if resources start to get more scarce
which I doubt we're probably gonna have
well this is inevitable we're probably
gonna have a warlord you know Civil War
situation of chaos I don't think the
glasses wearing libtards are gonna do
very well in that I think that's nice no
no absolutely not they're not going to
do well at all and neither are the
Communists because they're all cringed
and fat and ugly uh what's really going
to be successful yeah look people I will
grant you that most people who call
themselves Communists do funder fall
under that rubric in America but I'm I'm
not I'm not when I say I'm a communist
I'm not here being like Oh yeah I'm part
of that tribe of people in America all
those people hate me and I hate them
even more they're probably my biggest
enemies when I say I'm a communist I'm
like yeah I'm with the anti-woke
anti-globalist anti-establishment
populist movement and I think that this
I think there's there's they're missing
something and I I think we're missing
this right I I want a working class
movement
to be revived it's been forgotten
definitely believe that the working
class isn't deserving I see them mostly
As like like idiots that can't even make
up decisions for themselves let alone
for the nation we can take a look at
college degree holders and how they only
owe like a whop like I I say this
incredibly sarcastic they owe a whopping
thirty six thousand dollars you think
that's the word
massive you think hold on hold on hold
on okay do you think that's the working
class
oh no no we can get even further into
the working class we can see how um like
90 of Americans that uh at the age of 60
don't have any retirement because they
don't know how to retire because they're
too dumb
all right well you're I guess you're
smarter than everyone so you should be
no I'm just smarter than most people
especially in terms of money so how are
you going to prove it all right you're
not going to prove that by talking to a
guy like me you're gonna prove that by
getting political power so good luck
I mean sure sure I would probably be the
worst person I'd say some really edgy
stuff on here which means I'll probably
never have a political career however I
could um like back people that uh do
that also have similar beliefs to me or
it's just simply the waiting game see
here's what I think I don't think you're
smarter than anyone I think people are
just more plain plain spoken than you I
just think people all of all of your
supposed intelligence is derivative of
that stupidity I just hope it's just
like additive all you're doing is you're
basically taking for granted the way in
which stupid people make sense of the
world around them and by the way because
there's virtues and stupidity well I
don't mean actually let me clarify
something this virtue is in Simplicity
most people are simple not stupid stupid
people actually are people like you now
are you stupid I don't know enough about
you yet but people like you are actually
the stupid ones the people you're
calling stupid are not stupid they're
just simple they're plain right stupid
people are people who shoot and Miss
they're people who try to be more than
they are and that is what stupidity if
you're just a simple person you're not
stupid you're just simple and plain
you're not beyond the me bounds of what
is necessary for your life whereas a
stupid person
uses thought in such a way that
radically differs from the necessities
of their life and in a direction that
cannot prove itself in any like
substantive way cannot prove its Merit
the stupid people are people who use
thought to twist themselves into a
pretzel uh you know a a failure and
that's what stupidity is ultimately
stupidity is when the intellect is
misused it's not when people are just
like you know it's the the guy in the
fucking you know the the the the
hillbilly guy who's drinking drinking
beer and NASCAR that's not stupid
no no no they are both stupid and simple
right again no it's not they're not
stupid at all they're not stupid and
I'll tell you why because underneath
underneath every no I'll tell you what
underneath every intelligence no I'll
tell you why underneath every so-called
intelligent person
is that Simplicity we all are the same
as human beings in terms of the things
that actually Prime me on a prime final
level motivated that's why when you put
a nerd in like a club or something put
them in a soul situation outside they're
going to be super awkward uncomfortable
whatever because they haven't actually
developed those unconscious Primal
simple human aspects of themselves and
they have this pretension that they can
somehow like be free of all that just
look at the end of the day it doesn't
matter how smart you are if you're a man
you like big booty bitches you are just
simple that's degenerate like liking ass
and that's another question all right
well here's the thing here's the thing
everybody knows that tits are superior
okay also going back to like yeah but
that's still a very simple thing that's
still a very simple thing okay still a
very simple thing yeah sure no that's
simple right like but liking it don't
have to be it doesn't have to be that
stupid we all we all like McChickens you
can lie and say you don't like them no I
dude I I actually I eat at Chick-fil-A
okay I'm not one of these yeah Everyone
likes the chickens I guarantee you I've
literally never had to make chicken yeah
that I'm just not gonna believe that all
right Everyone likes okay some people
like them without mayo somebody because
I'm not a fat cringy loser no everyone
Everyone likes McChickens even diet
Freaks and here's the thing that's
Simplicity there's nothing wrong with
Simplicity it doesn't mean I agree well
what's stupid is the sheer inability to
actually take care of yourself without
Big Daddy government like having to be
there to do things for you make
decisions yeah but that's not what
majority of people don't want that
that's the thing but that's the thing
majority of people need that because
they're too stupid to actually be able
to no that's not that's just not true
that's just not true most of the people
most of the people need that while we
have social security is because these
people are too dumb are too stupid to be
able to handle like their own money and
investment while they are like working
and no it's no the reason yeah no Okay
the reason we have social security and
the reason we have things like that
is it isn't because people are too
stupid it's just because it absolutely
is no it isn't it's because that's a so
it's called Social Security it's not
called individual security yes I agree
we all have um
as individuals as individuals okay
Society to take care of listen as
individuals I agree as individuals we
all have ups and downs in our lives we
all have unpredictability in our life we
all have points in our life where we
can't save enough Social Security helps
it's a safety net it's called the social
safety it's already money that's being
taken out of yours and your employer if
you are self-employed you're already
putting money double into it yeah
that's called living what is civilized
yeah it's called that we're going to
civilized society where some money is
going to be taken out of the pool for
when we're all old we all grow old dude
we're all gonna grow old you will drain
out your Social Security and in most
cases you're not even going to be able
to live long enough to take back what
you put into Social Security and that's
the funny part is these dipshits are are
so incompetent they're so stupid that
they actually voted for a system that
would never actually work for them and
it's just a drain these people shouldn't
exist they're too stupid yeah I I I I
don't agree with that I don't agree with
that I don't know I just don't agree
with any of that right so our economy's
so unpredictable our economy is not
unpredictable there's nothing wrong with
having a social safety net for when you
get old and you're like you can't even
fucking work anymore there's nothing
wrong with that dude my guy you could
simply take that money that you would
put into like Social Security throw it
into literally any like like like a a
firm credit right and you would get
three percent back Which is far greater
than the 1.1 percent that you get back
on the Social Security like invest like
a build up and admittedly I'm not a
policy maker who knows all the minutia
of how that shit works so you can say
that I'm gonna doubt what you're saying
but I'm gonna entertain this possibility
I'm still leading on the doubt side
that you're right
but regardless
we all get old one day there's nothing
wrong with having a social safety net uh
yeah yeah so again if you were actually
smart and competent you wouldn't need
that a little quote unquote societal
thinking that you'd be able to take
those resources you're already having
taken away from you and put them towards
something actually useful that you're
actually going to get back or at least
that you could leave on to your
descendants so you don't get stuck in
this bullshit like a like a like I think
you're wrong I think you're wrong
generational poverty no because if if
everyone fucking did that it wouldn't
yield significantly more than Social
Security probably oh absolutely it still
would no no how do you know how do we
know because the government already
takes the money that we put into Social
Security and they put into these other
things that people are already investing
in so if we just we just cut out the
middle man everything would just be the
exact same except you would actually
have like the ability to get the money
that you put in no I think it would be
wildly more unpredictable for the
individual I think what the government
does and it's more predictable for
individuals it's not even more it's not
even look at it this way if you actually
do the math I'll sit down with you and
do the math with you later even if they
like if you if you put every single
penny you had into the S P 500 like 30
years ago and even if it dropped it had
the biggest stock market crash in
history a 50 drop you would still get
back twice as much from whatever you
invested okay as you would hold on as
you would I know you don't know the
reason I know if you would have excuse
me as you would have on average as if
you just had it like in Social Security
okay so you're saying listen it's just
it's not
listen you're you're talking about yes
the reason this is a stupid discussion
in the fucking first place is if you're
talking about a fake economy anyway
where yeah this growth is because we're
it's all based on credit it's based on
nothing it doesn't actually reflect a
real economy anyway the stock market has
nothing to do with the real economy and
the fritz like there's there's so many
like complex angles to this whole thing
we're just talking about the general
idea of having a social safety net which
is well before you know
the stock market craze took off so like
with neoliberals or whatever so it's
like you know there's nothing wrong with
Social Security in principle right if
you're saying there's something wrong
with Social Security in general that
might probably be more of an indictment
on the economic system we have in
general than Social Security
yeah my guy I I can I can link you to uh
at least like fucking 90 dozen a bank
accounts that will give you right now
3.5 interest on any money that you put
in there okay which is again going to be
almost double well actually it is over
double like the the interest that you
get piled up on top of your Social
Security and these are affirmed credit
so they're not going to even go anywhere
you know what's weird let me tell you
what's weird no let me tell you what's
weird about this so
if you're correct and what you're saying
is that the government is just not doing
Social Security good enough there should
be an expanded or a reformed Social
Security Agency that invests our
Collective money more wisely right
can you repeat that again sorry
okay
what you're saying is if what you're
saying is guarantee is a guarantee in
the same way that Social Security is a
guarantee because Social Security is a
guarantee well you're saying you're
saying this is just as much of a
guarantee right then you can formalize
that into a social security program
uh no not necessarily why not because we
already have like all these people that
are already like pretty much locked into
this system also we're not even seeing
like Social Security as a game
in the air right again because of but in
principle you should be able to
management if every individual at one
yeah
if every individual like five years from
now
in fact it's so unstable right now that
they keep on having to push back like
the collection age year after year after
year it is currently they're about to
like change it so I think it I have to
double check on it but it's about to be
70 years old which is again five years
higher than what it was seven years ago
Okay so
look if what you're if every individual
can do it just two things don't cut me
off there's if every individual can do
what you're saying they can do right you
can turn that into a social program
because it's guaranteed and everyone can
fucking do it so I'm sure it can it can
work as a program if everyone can do it
okay so second of all
if people are locked in it just kind of
sounds like you want like a boomer
genocide where you just like yeah cut
them all off because they're fucking
like what do you want right now right oh
what do I want right now yeah I don't
want this government because at the end
of the day you're saying people are
stupid because they're collecting Social
Security to survive so we wanted to do
just die oh no no I'm not calling them
stupid I'm calling like the people who
voted into this social security program
you know when we got Social Security you
know this complete in-depth like it's
been a thing for decades Mike I don't
know I don't remember yeah we got it we
got it we got it during the New Deal so
it wasn't voted in it was I understand I
understand but again they were they were
put in there by a bunch of fucking loser
dumbass Boomers that thought that this
would be able to take care of them and
lo and behold it's not it's not even
like I am at the ripe all day it kind of
does right I will never see a penny of
what I am currently putting into Social
Security like I just explained to you
it's awesome
listen listen I sympathize with you
you're young and you hate taxes I'm
young I fucking hate taxes too right no
I want less taxes but Social Security
Social Security is one of those things
where it's like
you know
cutting Social Security can it be
reformed to be more efficient probably
like everything else in our fucking
lousy government but in principle I
don't think we should just let old
people fend for themselves I just don't
know oh sure sure I mean there's some
old people that really put in their
fucking bank and we're fucking stupid
and thought that Social Security be able
to take care of them and lo and behold
they're still having to eat cat food
right versus like like the more
intelligent option which would be to not
have the Social Security and instead
have like a better that's not an
individual Choice that's a social that's
a social decision it is a compilation of
like individual decision making no it's
not no it's not because that's a policy
we have in place and individuals can't
yes and how did they become policy my
guy
that's part of the new deal because
because yes unintelligent people
dumbasses people who already were
terrible with money decided oh hey I'm
gonna vote on these people that are
going to supposedly
okay Social Security was not devoted
through a plebiscite dude it was part of
the New Deal yes I understand so so
technocrats so you mentioned technocracy
but technocrats are responsible for the
creation of Social Security I don't know
if you know that I am a lyric right and
that's why we need more intelligent
people rather than the quote-unquote
technocrats that were in charge of the
new deal well at least at the time it
was a very smart idea
uh yeah yeah sure like and like the
grand scheme of things in like the very
short run is a good idea as a long-term
system it's proving to be quite fatal
uh I don't I see I just I don't get why
you're targeting so you're not looking
at the bigger picture you're targeting
you're targeting a symptom instead of
the disease right that's the issue the
disease is the utter stupidity that is
like rampant within America that we
could cure we know that no no the
disease no the disease is the fact that
our
the way in which we produce things and
the the dynamism of our economy the
government hasn't caught up to that
that's the real issue no no so when
you're dealing with like a third of
Americans not even able to read at a
sixth grade reading level right no fault
of the education system just just ask
yourself this question is there anything
in their life that Associates that
but yeah yeah well at least with most
Americans like they do need to like be
able to like understand terms of say
credit cards that's what that way they
don't you know you know listening
car loans literally no no you're tired
at least like it hold on this is why
you're wrong no no you're wrong you're
wrong no no no no no here's why you're
wrong I I
there's no so here's why you're wrong
okay
at the end of the day
Reddit might have taught you a lot of
things Wall Street bets oh yeah this is
how economies are listen at the end of
the day economies are based on making
real shit that people can wear eat
shelter themselves with or otherwise use
in a tangible way that's what economies
are about so all of this financial
abstraction that has been thrusted upon
us
that is just an a s that is just a
Vestige of a parasitical
you know oligarchical Financial Elite it
has nothing to do with the actual
necessities
governing human life so all the everyone
should should know the minutia of credit
and all this kind of shit why why should
they right at the end of the day
all of that that they don't benefit from
it in any kind of fucking way the people
just want to drive cars people just want
to be able to have homes oh you have to
know the minutia of car loans and all
this kind of shit
but when it so radically deviates from
the necessity in question like we
shouldn't need
to have such a financialized economy at
the expense of the real one
okay thank you I'm gonna move on to dog
teeth now dog teeth whenever you're
ready
hey house how are you buddy uh good how
are you I'm doing good thanks for asking
so before I ask any questions uh I just
want to say
um can we get some uh banjoids in the
chat uh because we've had a few too many
of them on this AMA I think
uh I also think we've had a few too many
cucks uh people rambling and talking a
bunch of shit not asking you questions
so let's start with a couple questions
um let me just pull it up here I got it
written down so my first question for
you what do you believe to be the
biggest threat in terms of uh altering
the current way of life or the future
way of life for the American populace as
it stands right now
Financial serfdom yet surfed them uh
which we already have to a certain
extent but that being accelerated to the
point of the great reset where in quote
unquote we own nothing and we're happy I
mean that is a fucking nightmare we are
sad right now that we're getting the
platform from Big Tech imagine if you
got de-platformed from your house
imagine if you got D platformed from
eating food I mean that's the threat
we're facing right now every
like the minimum we used to have a
social contract the people on one side
the government on the one side other
side there's no more people anymore
right that's the threat we're facing
there's no security the people don't
have any Securities they don't have any
guarantees to defend their sovereignties
anymore as a people
so I think that's the number one threat
right now um and what do you think the
um average uh American like like
yourself and you know your uh infrared
Collective what do you think they can do
uh as a unit to kind of fight back and
push back against this
leverage their power just like the
Canadian truckers because if we don't
have truckers we don't have anything
they can shut down the economy general
strike don't even go to work
they need to leverage their power in
labor what makes our economy actually
tick at the bottom because they're
trying to do some crazy shit at the top
the American people need to leverage
their power at the bottom
all the premises of all that financial
bullshit
um and I have another question it's a
little uh unrelated but I'm going to
kind of delve a little more into the
Communist aspect of um your platform so
do you believe that Stalin uh was
successful in upholding the ideals that
Lenin had initiated during the birth of
the Soviet Union
after his death of course
uh I I vaguely get your question and my
answer is yes I think Stalin was the
most faithful
and successful student of Lenin
so maybe I could make it a little
clearer so that you could elaborate
there are some sects of you know Marxist
thought uh specifically Orthodox Marxism
that looked down upon Marxism lenatism
as a you know more of a state capitalist
kind of
dip like I wouldn't call it a
differentiation but kind of like a
diversion away from the original
intentions what do you think of that
I'll just classify those as leftist
right rather than marxists those are
leftist deviations and what leftism is
actually about
is it's trying to distill the essence of
revolutionary change that makes sense
and clarify what I mean by that trying
to make it an idol in and of its in and
of itself so they see the Soviet Union
they see China settle down and suddenly
they're not as quote unquote
revolutionary anymore because they're
going back to the you know the the the
the boring regular life right order
reinstating some kind of order
reinstating some kind of normal right
and they see this as a betrayal of true
Marxism which is about Waging War
against bedtime forever right so
I think they have disguised that very
infantile
pathological stance with a pretends to
textual Orthodoxy because when you
actually hit the books and you look at
all their arguments from the perspective
of textual Orthodoxy it's all wrong
right
so you know you have to ask the question
um
what's their real motivation for saying
that
and that's how I try to explain it it's
just it's kind of infantile leftism
okay so my third and final question for
you is you are obviously an advocate for
socialism with Chinese characteristics
you've made that abundantly clear
um through your entire career on this on
on many platforms uh what would you
describe as socialism with American
characteristics
that's actually a good question
I have a lot of overlap with the
larouche people as far as policy ideas
are concerned
but broadly in terms of like a structure
here's what I think is American
civilization I think we as Americans
like having homesteads I think we like
having our own house and our own land
and our own families
and our the unit of our civilization is
different from the Chinese one the
Chinese unit still is family but it's
different generationally it has a it's
more collectivistic and it's more
integrated there's it's more of like a
village kind of thing where there's a
more harmonious uh interaction or
cooperation at a village level
whereas I think America is more
Homestead right so I think what you're
going to have with socials with American
characteristics is that you're going to
have a combination of autonomous
homesteads
coupled with
um
with a commonwealth at the level of
infrastructure at the level of
um
you know things that bring us together
bring the homesteads together in terms
of connectivity think about like think
of it like a grid
the socialism
will be the grid right and then there's
going to be nodes on the grid and that's
where the Americans will have Liberty
and freedom to experiment do whatever
they want and so on and so on so we need
to have the American
experimental and individual kind of
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structure combined with you know making
sure that we all have
that that we have us we have a
government by Foreign of the people
right if we Americans we hate it we have
to have a government right so if we have
a government it has to be a government
for the people right
and then the American way will be at the
individual or family level
uh and just to extrapolate a little bit
on that point um
uh we I think we could both agree that
America as a society is secular uh where
do you think that religion would or
could fit into this
um you know socialist American society
probably in the way that it has in the
past probably with churches being a site
of social
social gathering at local levels
probably with grand
cultural or moral revolutions
happening like great Awakenings right
abolitionism stuff before there's always
been these great Awakenings in American
history
even the New Deal is kind of a Great
Awakening so
you know those great Awakenings probably
religion will probably play some role
and you know as as far as
non-protestants Christianity is
concerned I think
I think one of the great things about
America is there's diverse communities
here there's different ways in which
people adjust to the American way from
their own religious and cultural
backgrounds
but I don't see the state being itself
uh religious
okay well that's all I got for you buddy
thank you so much for answering my
questions
yep no problem
how's uh can I take care of some server
business just really quickly oh yeah no
problem that's okay yeah like actually I
want to grab a quick snack if that's all
right
go for it yeah okay yeah there I just I
I caught a pedophile so I'd like to name
and shave them really quickly yeah sure
suggest FYI guys uh there's a user on
the server called uh days
#zero nine four four uh first name James
um I just got in a ton of evidence of
him uh trying to set up a Meetup with a
14 year old uh someone who thought who
he thought was 14 year old years old uh
sending them nudes uh videos of him
jerking off
um apparently he has children and he was
talking about his his vaginas like in
Snapchat it's really fucking weird
um
yeah avoid this person I'm gonna ban him
obviously we'll let other servers that I
have some influence him uh know that he
is a pedophile and they should ban him
because he's targeting miners in the
community
um and yeah that's not a good thing
don't don't fuck with kids
again that name is uh days hashtag
uh zero nine four four he's probably
gonna change it I am going to report the
account but now he'll just make another
one
um
and yeah uh for the record this dick is
really fucking small I'm extremely
tempted to post it because it's really
small
um and I'm sorry that you've got a small
dick but you know doesn't give you the
right to go after kids I'm sorry
uh yeah guys in chat I'm gonna tag them
for you okay
you'll be you're the hero this server
needs
God this guy's such a fucking piece of
shit so I've just been dealing with him
so initially he denied it of course
uh then I posted some evidence for him
he says Fair
and then he says
um and then he says oh well I never sent
them anything we said that would
actually be illegal then I said oh you
sent them videos of you jacking off with
your little mini dick and he says which
is true uh dude be damning what can I
say now you're saying I would never do
this in person thought he was attempting
to set up a Meetup with this girl who he
thought was 14 years old
scrambling around and trying to find
some way to not be a piece of shit
fucking disgusting
um so if you're in the politics server
um it's a discord.g politics or just
politics statute you in your browser
um you'll be able to see this guy's
account all that good stuff okay
I'm actually going to post uh
screenshots
none of the dick videos unfortunately
though I am tempted is this really small
it's really fucking small
um but you know
that is what it is
almost done here I'm just making sure
that I took screenshots of the ship
right to myself
guys I'm not gonna post a dick I can't
post a dick okay I have some
uh I have a limit okay
uh I'm sorry I took a piss real quick
coming back
okay welcome back yeah I know we've been
going on for like uh almost over three
and a half hours now and I'm willing to
go on as long as you are so just let me
know because I know these things could
be draining yeah yeah for sure for sure
okay
um so again real quickly yeah days
hashtag zero nine four four first night
James tried to set up a meeting with a
14 year old girl not good so yeah the
guy's fitting there
um okay we're moving on
Next Step uh
fuck speaking of miners
this kid I kind of bullied earlier
because he really wanted to come on and
talk to you about Islam
um oh God now I feel bad so that sweet
go for it don't be oh thank you duby man
uh I
you me but yeah thank you so recently I
was informed about uh this uh this new
video that I mean not a new video it's a
10 month old video but in which you
explain how Marxism relates in some kind
of way to Islam and that certain form of
Islam is like a new one or another
traditional one and I you know you
didn't really go in depth with it and
you really just moved on but I really
want to you know get you know what's uh
what do you really mean because right of
inheritance is actually protected by
Islam and it's even given to a woman you
know women you're useless but we still
give him rights so I don't really get
how um yeah I don't really get how uh it
really relates to Marxism
okay
um what is that what does right of
inheritance have to do with anything
well it's one of the
United
no it's not I think that wasn't maybe in
the Communist Manifesto but that's not
like a principle
right but
the how does Marxism connect with uh
Islam
yeah I think it's not just connected to
Islam but all the abrahamic religions I
think all abrahamic religions
corresponded to a kind of religious
Revolution
and which was inherently monotheistic
trying to restore universal meaning to a
fallen world and I think Marxism did
that for
uh 19th century capitalism
but you said that is specifically
related to Islam in which way did it
really did you know what what rule of
Islam really uh went in depth within uh
you know Marxism were really related to
it
because quite it's a very big claim you
know Marxism is generally not really
connected with it I think I think I
think itself wasn't yeah I think the
Marxist materialist dialectic
does establish a clear continuity with
uh the at least and I'm not trying to
exclude other religions I'm just saying
this is the extent of my familiarity the
Abraham of faiths and the reason is
because
it's not it's not so much about rules
it's more about philosophy
and it's more about maybe like
metaphysics right it's not so much about
like what prescription what Juris Juris
protocol I've pronouncing it correctly
uh
rule or you know commandment
if you will is compatible with Marxism
it's more like what underlying
understanding of being and the world and
the universe
makes Marxism in Islam similar and I
think because I mean you're saying I
mean just like in past debates you're
kind of seeing a whole lot of nothing
I am trying to get what
yeah does it really match with any
religion
uh it's like baby shark
it's kind of like that that's maybe more
simple for you to understand
well I mean uh if you're trying to be
funny that's incredibly unfunny but let
me just get to the second question what
made you leave religion and how are you
an atheist right now
sorry
um what made me leave religion was when
I was like 11 12 years ago
and I I think it had more to do with the
fact that I I didn't like
the way in which the
etiology that I thought corresponded to
Islam that I was born with I didn't
think it correctly explained Western
modernity I was born in America
and it didn't take into account the real
nature of the world around me I don't
think
and I always thought this was that like
uh
just a bunch of lost people
yeah I I can see how that's correct
today but at the time that had to be
proven to me at least through experience
I not just the written letter of the law
I had to actually experience that but I
I think it's more complicated also I
think the I think worldly matters are
important and I think many Muslims
neglect worldly matters in the name of
religion
would you give us one instance
yeah I think Muslims
uh I'm talking about like ideologically
religious Muslims I think they tend to
neglect
for example learning from Western
Enlightenment and modernity Emmanuel
Kant Hague all this kind of this is
important stuff education is important
but only learning from Muslims and
Muslim sources it's not going to get you
anywhere you got to learn from the
people who actually we're not pediastic
you can learn from other but whenever it
comes to Faith yeah you can't learn it
from it yeah but I'm saying I'm saying
I'm saying I'm more of a humanist I
think there's a humanism lacking in
contemporary Islam in many ways where
what humanism means is you're supposed
to attend to the worldly human matters
like philosophy art those kinds of
things and I think I'm not saying
Muslims
are against those I just want to promote
more of those more of that aspect
because I think it's neglected in the
Muslim world and I think Islam has a
very rich humanistic tradition
which is being neglected so that's my
view
so wait so you're telling me that the
only reason why you are a Muslim is
because it doesn't talk enough about
poetry and
no it's that I mean is that for me I
don't I only understood Islam as a
series of arbitrary rules
I had no understanding or connection to
the deeper meaning of it I'm just trying
to have a connection with your with your
lord you have to you know actually seek
him you can't just you know read and
just go like ah I don't feel like
connection must finish you know you have
to pray you have to do what this Lord
commands you to yeah and that at the
time that was not enough for me
what what what is taking you away from
actually trying it again and maybe
getting a connection this time
I I think I so I that was 11 12 years
ago I'm different today
so today uh I think I am I do have a
connection more a connection that I've
established
all right
uh my second question would be uh what
what made you what made you really leave
Islam at first it was it just uh a lack
of connection or uh was there anything
else was there really an event because I
know you you live in an Arab household
what made you leave it
uh it wasn't an event but it was when I
was like when I first got when I first
was in high school which I guess is kind
of a rite of passage in some ways I was
in ninth grade so not 12. so I'm not 12.
well I didn't well I I at the time was a
freshman in high school The First
beginning as a freshman in high school
was when I left Islam
and I think it had more to do with age
than an event
per se so the more you grew up you just
left it because you felt like it
no I was pretty re tried to be pretty
religious and look the way it worked is
that I grew up as a kid
as a kid you know I'm not too religious
but religious and
as I'm getting older I'm becoming more
religious more fanatical about it
like in middle school and then as I got
get older I kind of I guess I hit my
head on a glass ceiling and I'm kind of
like
this specific path of religious
fanaticism if you want to call it that
is not
working out for me like it's it's not I
don't I don't I I no longer believed in
its honesty I thought for example
bro am I motivated
okay you know what kid go fucking play
fortnite dude I'm trying to give you I'm
trying to give you worthwhile wisdom and
you're being disrespectful I mean shut
your little kid ass up you're a fucking
goddamn little kid doesn't Islam teach
you to respect is it appeal to age
really the only thing you can bring up
whenever hey yeah go play Legos bitch
yeah go fucking play Listen to Baby
Shark that'll be more simple for you
okay next up
um we are going to go with
uh Jacob Ron Jacob go for it
this okay so like the um one of the
biggest divides in in my in default
server is whether or not China is
socialist or if it's a petite Bourgeois
state do you think you could explain
your opinion on that and why it is or is
not a petite Bourgeois state
first of all there's no such thing as a
petite Bourgeois State like Yugoslavia
or whatever no but do you no there's no
petite Bourgeois States there's no such
thing
oh a state a state that is going to be
promoting smaller Enterprises more than
larger Enterprises
like in actual reality is um
either an incipient Democratic Bourgeois
state or it's a proletarian dictatorship
but yugoslavia's case is much more
complicated I don't think Yugoslavia was
either of those
uh I think Yugoslavia was a more like a
revisionist
Social Democrat State yeah Enterprises
so here's the thing Yugoslavia did not
have
small scale businesses relative to the
individual but relative to the state
planning it was still very much like
institutional kind of socialism
also I've heard I there was this one
person
um that I met one time I mean he he
believed the rural proletariat were like
um destined to be class Traders and or
some he was he was stupid but like
um this this one this but he was talking
he said about how China's social
democracy and I'm just like this has to
be Bae like China's not a social
democracy
foreign
yeah like
also I know Chinese billionaires are not
allowed to liquidate their assets so
like do they have very limited power
over their country's politics
yeah
so yeah
anyways I have to go I I thought that
would I thought but I'm curious what do
I how do I respond to people who say
like China's State capitalist or China's
uh Bourgeois state or whatever
you know I I don't really know if I see
the utility in debates like that if you
talk to an average person tell them yeah
China's Communists they're going to nod
their head and be like yup so it's like
all these like Fringe Lefty debates are
just just kind of waste of time
those people tell those people that they
should probably just revert back to
Protestant fanaticism and you know
create the heaven on Earth you know it's
just like tell them you're clear this is
not about Marxism it's not about
socialism it's clearly about some like
pure search for purity
like like obviously you have to adapt to
the material conditions of the time
which China is doing right now
like okay anyways yeah all right yeah
see you move on
thank you Jacob okay
uh next up
um so that that folder Five Guy um the
free the vegan guy he's really upset but
um to be honest with you I don't know if
I can take any more like British accents
or whatever the fuck that was yeah no no
second no Second Chances let's get new
people
okay so next up we're going to default
uh CMC
default go for it
um yeah but there's like feedback on
your mic so if you can use pressure can
you guys hear me
yeah
all right uh all right Haas so my
question for you is
what should dissidents in the west be
doing in the face of increasing
corporate censorship
that you know you yourself is just we're
just recently subjected to
honest advice is move carefully uh don't
try your best not to get de-platformed
it's definitely not
um something you want and then have one
foot on the surface and have one foot
underground and then have a foot in
between so have one foot on the surface
which is the surface web have one foot
on Telegram
and have one foot on Rumble right in
between and you got to be everywhere
though you can't just go to the
alternative platforms and expect
anything to happen you've got to have
your you got to like have a funnel right
yeah yeah yeah I agree so the surface
web is very vital you you can't if you
get deep platform from all the surface
web you just don't exist anymore you
know my Twitter just got banned
and well
what do you think about like the rise of
like phenomenon like the nafo alarm
uh a it's so cringe it's so super cringe
B it's so fake it's so clearly an
attempt to astral turf a Reddit Army and
three you know these nafo people are
just if you think about it they seem
like oh yeah we're a tough Army we're
nafo but they're really just an
organized snitch Brigade so let's just
call them o s b the OSB the organized
snitch Brigade and that's what they are
they're just snitches all they do is
tattletail to Big Tech to ban people
that they don't like
I mean like you know what I feel like we
need to like bring back the culture War
to this no one's doing that
if you had a bunch of sjws having an
organized thing oh we have the Deep
platform everyone everyone would like
rightfully call it the most cringe shit
in the fucking world oh you're just what
you want to tattletail on people that
disagree with you you're a pussy or a
fucking snowflake so yeah we need to
start just calling them the snowflakes
because that's what they fucking are
they're just an organized snitch
Brigade that bans people whose opinions
are too like they they just can't fight
they use all these words oh you're a
Russian propaganda at the end of the day
these are fucking snowflakes that are
butthurt that people have a different
opinion on them about this conflict than
they do so we need to bring back the
culture War aspect let's start calling
them snow they're snowflakes they're the
nafo snowflakes the Naples it's like uh
like calling you names they they've just
out and out just violate to us as well
like they'll post they'll they'll post a
Gore right like like dead bodies like
slain Russian soldiers and then they'll
say things like
um genocide the Russian orc pigs you
know
so it's like yeah yeah no no that's
definitely like like some kind of like
digital brown shirt shit is going on
yeah yeah definitely but I mean at the
end of the day I wouldn't be in I don't
care about nateful all they do is
de-platform people whatever
um
and every single one of them in real
life is a looks like Dylan Burns so make
it that what you will Dylan Burns is one
of the only nateful people where you
know what they look like
that's what they look like they look
like Dylan Burns so there you go
do you think there's any lessons to be
drawn from like the experience of the
Bolsheviks in the early years when they
were like operating under conditions of
severe yeah yeah yeah Lennon Lenin's
very
um
he's very big on this one foot in one
foot out you gotta have one foot in the
underground
every opportunity you have to be on the
surface take it but have an organized
presence have an underground
organization
also have an uh surface presence as much
as possible
it's very important
I'm not I'm not too familiar with like
the details of that
period of Bull Street history but like
how did
how did the party actually manage to get
their propaganda get their you know
media out there uh out to them yeah I
had a very it had a it had a critical
structure a kantian critical structure
which meant they had a very acute way of
differentiating the input that goes into
their output
so the input is all illegal and it's all
underground and stuff but the output is
very carefully refined to avoid the
sensors and very like so they had a very
strict so basically like goggles look
great like that's it's like that like
the idea of like the dog whistle what or
what is it like the dog whistle
no not necessarily it was more like they
knew what they could and couldn't say
but even if you follow all the rules
there's still contradictions on the
surface so you accentuate those
contradictions so even if you are fully
submitting to the censorship
you can still exploit contradictions at
on the surface
and then but at a certain point it
becomes dialectical at a certain point
when you accelerate see this is what
happened to me when you accelerate those
contradictions to a certain point
they're going to say okay now we're
censoring that you're banned so like
that's for example before you could say
whatever you want about foreign
conflicts like Russia and Ukraine
so I accelerate that contradiction right
but because I'm so effective at it
they're like okay you know what we're
going to start censoring this and for
the first time twitch does the
unprecedented and they they ban someone
over their stance on a foreign war
so that's what happens you just have to
keep you know it's like Bob and weave
you got to keep fucking
they will never fully catch you the
bourgeoisie isn't capable they will they
cannot catch they cannot catch a
partisan right you can you will always
be able to wage the class Struggle No
matter what any censorship even any any
even under fascism you can do it doesn't
matter they will never be able until
they identify you
and by the time they identify you you
should have already moved to another
place
so for me it's me it's different because
I'm a personality on the internet I can
only be one person
would it be lost to discuss like band of
Asian and Twitter
I'm not on YouTube it's not to us why
not
it's actually really easy to band of Aid
I shouldn't say this because I just
banned a pedophile but yeah yeah I yeah
I mean I definitely have
a twin brother who might be making a
Twitter very soon so yeah that I'm just
taking a break from Twitter in all
honesty
yeah
I mean I I hear that like to bandivate
on Twitter like to make it Twitter oh if
you have to like they're they're
starting to make you use me you use like
a phone number to tie it here yeah
that's not a problem
um as far as I'm concerned I already
know about all everything how it works
um
do you know anything about like the
internal stroke like how the uh bolster
picks internally like
how they internally organize their their
maneuvering around the uh it's hardest
you know censorship like
they used a lot of pseudonyms
so the anonymity thing
they also there was never a point where
the censorship was so harsh that you
couldn't say anything
so you know they just
and also sometimes the topics that they
were engaged in in polemics were so
esoteric that sensors didn't even
fucking understand it they were like
what
because it's like these intra Marxist
fighting and factionalism so that there
was many advantages but it never got so
drastic like if it got to the point
where oh
political dissidents gets banned
well there's still room for economic
dissidents or cultural dissidents and
things like that and if all this scent
is banned completely that's a level of
totalitarianism if you want to use that
word it's never been experienced
anywhere in human history maybe except
today where we're getting to that point
and in those circumstances
I think
it's the con it's the problem of
consensus you've just gotta smile and
maneuver how you can but there will
always be contradictions and there will
always be differences
even in the room even in a status quo
there's always going to be
contradictions even in the status quo
consensus
so like to the public like any
individual Bolshevik would have multiple
like personas or aliases yeah
that seems to me like it would be it
would be similar to like any individual
on
like mainstream social media yeah they
would they should have multiple accounts
multiple alts
but then internally internally the
bullshit like did the party like keep
track of who like like the personas or
like the the you know the the yeah the
personas or the uh pseudonyms that each
each Cadre like uh not not always no
sometimes people were Anonymous to
everyone
but it was still it still worked
discursively still but
you know
um
and there's also things like plausible
deniability you had sometimes
where everyone knows this is Lenin but
there's no way to prove it
so yeah
you had so in the bolstery party you had
like the people kind of creating
I'm going to use I'm going to be
anachronistic but like you had the lens
right like like the content creators and
then it seems like you would have like
the rank and file Padres who you know
maybe they also like wrote their own
like
you know created create their own media
their wrote pamphlets or articles but
their main duty was to take the content
you know the pamphlets the writings of
like the lettings of the party and then
through their you know secret shadowy
maneuverings uh propagate that to the
masses
would I am I correcting that uh
would I be correcting that in that
language well if if the content of his
writings is is made for that purpose
like okay we need to do this
perhaps but sometimes it was just
polemical
so the polemical nature is different
it's like you know what is to be done
there's a dispute over that and there's
a whole polemical War over the strategy
you know it's it needs to be emphasized
no no I have to disagree with not
disagree but I have to push back on what
I just said
no because Lenin wasn't a content
creator first and foremost he was a he
was a part of an organization right a
party and those are two very very
different things there were former
protocols in place for Collective action
through the party
so no that people were not engaged in
actions on the basis of his content
creation but on the basis of
formal decisions made by the party now
how those decisions happen is democratic
centralism so the significance of
Lenin's content creation is more for the
party rather than the masses
so that's what you meant by the bulimics
the bulimics would essentially be
precisely consumed internally within the
party yep and then some stuff is for the
outside
but that's that's mainly not penned by
Lenin that's penned by their newspapers
or that's penned by their you know their
their the party newspaper right yeah
yeah then I guess like
so there the newspapers the
public-facing newspapers would break
those content for the for the
consumption of of the public masses
precisely yeah
I guess then then like what I'm
interested in is like how would
um
the party formed around the newspaper
the decision like being able to come to
a consensus as a group about what
content to curate and publish
that was like these embryo of the party
do you think do you think that there's
like a similar development that's going
on with like online uh uh online
communities like like your your
community for example
I don't because I think the nature of
organization has changed in the age of
cybernetics
it controls an organization of people
has so drastically changed
that
politic the protocol of political
Association today
doesn't actually seem like it's based on
a curation of information
it seems that it's based more on
precedent and legitimacy
for example like
you know the state the American state is
that based on the curation of
information no it's based on
being a historical legitimate
Institution
passed down from history
I'm not sure I follow what I don't think
I understood the things that make people
collectively associate today
and act
I don't think are directly based on
um
organizations based on the curation of
information I think being organized for
example information bubbles where
different idea ideologies Define
themselves based on like their Echo
Chambers and shit right yeah yeah yeah
I don't think that's the same as an
authentic political distinction
what is what do you mean by authentic
political distinction
an authentic political distinction is
based on the organization of will right
different organization of will
and conflict thereof right stemming
thereof
but there is an acute discontinuity
between information and politics today
they're not the same in other words like
for example
um
an info Warrior is not the same as a
soldier of a state
right right
yeah for sure
okay
thank you default CMC
uh next up we have this dude who is
begging to speak to you
uh whenever you're ready Mr blind
Oz you're a fucking bitch still
motherfucker I'm back look I already
laid down the Precedence I challenge you
to a motherfucking boxing match that's
it bottom line a boxing match you can
pick the time and you can pick the place
I only put one stipulation it's either
on a Saturday or a Sunday
that's it you pick everything else I
will even give you time to fucking
prepare you can stream it I don't give a
fuck I'm just some nobody and I will
fucking challenge that's what makes it
so lucrative like the guy said you are
some bitch made motherfucker who sits
behind a computer screen who acts like
he's For the Working Man the blue class
and that's the only reason you're call
me and you'll make fun of these obvious
soy motherfuckers like Destiny and all
these other bitches meanwhile you're up
here getting clowned by people like
who actually agree with a lot of your
views but they still fucking school to
your ass
fucking that's the bottom line
so you cut out you have to say
so you get your tampon yet from CVS
that's it that's all you had to say
that's it oh yeah why specifically not a
not a not like a weekday like why does
that happen on the weekend
caller working class man
what do you have to like fly out
somewhere like you can't
I'll fucking drive I already gave him
like I told you I don't want to fight
like a Mountaintop in in like the
occupied territory of Israel somewhere
he's not he's not from Israel that's
completely and totally unrealistic
yeah and I'm a dual citizen in Lebanon
so let's fight in Lebanon
no rules are you on a Mountaintop in the
rain specifically that's completely and
totally unrealistic why is it
unrealistic because you live in the
fucking USA you're creating the standard
to make it unrealistic so you all right
let's have it in the middle of the Grand
Canyon
okay let's do it win all right maybe
there tomorrow
that's completely totally unrealistic
all right next Saturday the middle of
the Grand Canyon if you bring water
you're a pussy and wait all day for me
because I will be there and if you don't
if you leave you're a bitch because I
will be there better you're creating
another unrealistic sandwich
topping Me by bitching out like I'm
telling you give me he's telling you
just just go to just go
to the Grand Canyon wait there all day
I'll totally be there bro like leave it
we'll give your account yeah dude it
sounds like you're bitching out sounds
like you're bitching out dude
oh yeah yeah totally I'm literally
giving you the challenge right here the
boxing ring okay the boxing ring will be
set up all right listen listen since
you're in an honest guy I don't know if
you're gonna commit to this so we need
it's gonna be in the Grand Canyon the
ring is gonna be in the middle of the
Grand Canyon but I'm only gonna set up
the ring me and my crew we're gonna pull
up with a van and set up the ring and
everything and record it but I'm not
gonna waste my time if you're not gonna
be there so I need you to confirm that
you're going to be in that location by
going in the middle of the Grand Canyon
next uh Saturday and through satellite I
will confirm your location
here's your problem you're saying I
can't sit there to be someplace when
like we live in a modern society I can
literally send you like I can send you
shit to sit there and confirm that I'm
going to be at places no I don't trust
you I think you're gonna I think you're
gonna play it I think you're gonna
continue with this shit
finishing the fuck out I think you're
gonna play I think I think I think
you're gonna flake dude I think
so it just seems like you know as a
third party neutral Observer right it
seems like you said he could control
every other thing he's giving you the
Grand Canyon Middle Grand Canyon he will
set up the ring he'll pay for all that
himself you just need to show up there
next Saturday and now you're freaking
you're flipping out because he chose the
the other parameters like you said he
could okay
so let's be realistic with this like
cause I'm not asking you to dodge
yourself or anything what area of the
United States do you live in
uh the Grand Canyon
you're lying I know you're lying wait
why do you know who's lying I know for a
fact you're fucking lying okay I don't
know how you know that you live in the
Grand Canyon yeah the Grand Canyon is a
national park right the Grand Canyon
homes you are living in a house you're
so clueless one of those you're so
clueless dude you don't know that Park
Rangers can live on site you dumbass
yeah and you're not a fucking park
ranger you're sitting here on fucking
YouTube jerking your dick off while
you're fucking good yeah because we're
not what do you think what do you think
here what do you think we do what do you
think Park Rangers do you do the Grand
Canyon is empty
Park Rangers do my fucking sister was
apart yeah there's not even any trees in
the Grand Canyon you don't have to worry
listen we don't you bitch you are
backing the fucking here's your fucking
clueless we don't we don't have to worry
about anything the grand Tanner is an
empty deserts there's no trees there's
no forest fires Oh no you're gonna try
to fucking talk over me no I'm not
fucking Destiny I'm not a pussy like you
motherfucker like you you are gonna
bitch out oh you live in Michigan
apparently you live you sound like Dylan
the hacker dude are you gonna hack
PewDiePie Michigan you live in Michigan
listen I'm not PewDiePie you don't have
to yell at me Dylan Dylan the hacker I'm
not PewDiePie you are a pussy you're a
pussy you literally will not accept this
challenge you won't I just accepted it
like I I don't understand the Grand
Canyon apparently you live in Michigan
your information's wrong your
information's wrong I'm in the Grand
Canyon
you're fucking lying okay well
you're fucking accepting Jones he's
asking you to be the next Saturday we
all heard it so there you go they're the
terms you either live in Dearborn or
Detroit
so let's do this
I live in the Grand Canyon sir I don't
know what to tell you
just go to the Grand Canyon next
Saturday if positive show up let me
believe let me show you a Voldemort let
me believe let me fucking believe that
you're gonna sit there and create some
fucking fairy tale bullshit like the
funny thing is you think he accepted
your turn and you give me a realistic
spot like can you tell me that's
realistic for him meet me at this place
in I don't know fucking Detroit Michigan
at this spot this park I will be there
and I'll say okay Bet bro why would I go
why do I go why would I go all the way
why would I go all the way to Detroit
when I'm literally in the Grand Canyon
right now you're not in the fucking
Grand Canyon I know for a fact you're
not in the grandkids that's the thing
you don't
except I do are you okay let me ask you
a serious questions
without fucking lying
so this is just going sir you're getting
the fact you're getting the facts wrong
point out that you have again
refused refused to accept my challenge
you're crazy
you claim to be an advocate for the blue
collar hold on hold on blank hold on one
second and one of those images
so I just want to be clear about
something because I feel like maybe
something is going on here that I'm like
worried about you do know that the Grand
Canyon is like a real place in the real
world like it actually so that's
completely and totally irrelevant right
it exists
okay let me let me just finish my point
I'm not denying
I want you to like I want to make it
abundantly clear I am the definition I
am the epitome of a blue-collar work
class man you cannot deny that I'm a
fucking plumber I am the epitome of the
people you supposedly advocate for okay
and yeah you sit here and you made Super
Mario I don't care you continue to
fucking refuse to all right so to to sit
there and like box me it's just listen
to Super Mario gentlemen singing a
gentleman listen I'm not Bowser I don't
know why you want to fight me between
one man and another I'm not Bowser Super
Mario I don't know why you wanna
you sit there and you claim to be like
this motherfucker this dude who's like
oh yeah I'm a I'm a badass like you look
like you have you know you look like you
go to the gym like you look like you I
look like I go to the gym every now and
then I'm pretty
I literally pinged you with what I look
like right now in the Discord sugar and
I want to fucking fight you and yet you
are backing down
you're
creating these unrealistic terms that's
it well that's subjective actually
a fucking course
hit Mario
and he could choose everything else
come on man okay we're gonna do it right
so we're gonna raise money with the
server we're gonna we're gonna schedule
this thing to happen at the Grand Canyon
the boxing match between you and Haas
all you need to do is show up next
weekend
I don't believe either of you make it
more realistic uh wow
dude what's this guy's name what's his
name wouldn't it his name is uh I don't
I don't know his Discord name
intentionally blank intentionally
blankets what's your what's your what's
your Alias you said you want to box me
I'm literally like it's it's literally
intentionally blank all right so I'm
gonna I'm gonna just put people on this
so people on the stream know
intentionally blank is a pussy on
communities oh yeah yeah of course you
would say that bro oh yeah let's let's
turn it on the fucking challenging
because I create unrealistic Engineers
to which I can't fucking
realistic absolutely
fucking day
keep fucking going there we go
it's a Grand Canyon if I were to show up
at the Grand Canyon you would not be
there you don't fucking live there okay
let's let's say you would either
be there making enough money to fucking
Mario wait what's up
right now cause you're fucking failing
calm down calm down let's play on the
off chance
you're gonna make me do this okay so you
gotta calm down right like I don't know
what's loosen your fucking tampon or
something like something you're just
freaking the fuck out so on the off
okay well we can box afterwards okay so
I'm like off chance that has here does
not show up at the Grand Canyon next
weekend uh it's next Saturday actually
it doesn't show up with it with the
boxing ring but hey we'll hold them
accountable you know I will personally
pay you a thousand dollars if you show
up at the Grand Canyon give me the money
tomorrow
no what do you what do you mean tomorrow
show next weekend
I'll box the mob no no no I think you're
scared dude I think you're scared
doobie is a fucking admin of This Server
I think you're scared too I think he's a
fucking bitch dude why do you think I'm
scared
challenging you all right I am the one
challenging you what's your fucking
question my question is you were the one
who challenged me but why are you scared
now
right I'm not fucking scared I've
literally told you why won't you go to
the fucking understanding oh the fucking
Grand Canyon yeah
create a more realistic fucking place
so do you not think it's a real place
you know you live in fucking Michigan
you don't know the grand
Canyon is a real place dude what is
wrong with you it is a real place
and now you're fucking gaslighting good
job
you said it's not a realistic place it's
very real it's a very good place to meet
I can show you photos right now I can
show you photos on Google concert here I
could show you I'm showing the chat
photos on Google right now you just said
it's not a realistic Place Grand Canyon
we're going to settle this right now see
who the pussy is if and if it's a real
place take context of the comments if
you're if this is a real place dude
you're a mega pussy fuck you you're
fuck boxing I challenge you to a
motherfucking fight a fucking street
fight the first motherfucker to go great
job look at this look at this look at
this
pussy this guy is fucking barefisted I
challenge you in a fucking street I'm
gonna post the stream Lincoln chat we're
gonna see evidence here of the grand
Canyon's existence that does look like a
Grand Canyon right like what do you have
to say to this
hello
biggest batteries
you double checking to make sure that
the photo isn't exactly it's actually
the Grand Canyon right I don't I don't I
don't see the photo
okay so if you click on the link that I
just posted into I want to post it again
you'll see there on the YouTube stream
which everybody should be watching and
liking by the way is okay
like actual real Grand Canyon and once
again special pleading right there
you're fucking committing logical
fallacies because you're a bitch
why are you so scared why did you make
up why did you deny the Grand Canyon so
you denied the Grand Canyon existed I
showed evidence that exists and now
you're bitching out again what's wrong
with you right because I literally all I
said was the Grand Canyon is not a
realistic place to meet and once again
so you're saying it's a make-believe
place to me
put like this unrealistic place to meet
up you know the the so so so you think
you think it's something the man that I
supposedly
so you think it's a make-believe place
to meet since it's unrealistic unreal
physic standards in this place and
that's the bottom one
what is not real about it
you're a pussy that's the bottom line I
think you're the pussy dude here's the
Grand Canyon let's meet there next
Saturday you're not gonna go you're a
fucking person you're not gonna fucking
be there that's fine
you can be there tomorrow yeah I'm there
right now so of course I could
really all right I think
I think we fit the wall
um yeah I think Bowser wins this one and
Princess Peach is not going home with
you dude you lost
okay uh next up
uh that was weird as fuck is Char Char
you are unmuted go for it the those that
was entertaining to say the least uh
thank you for coming on
um kind of the guy before that guy maybe
was a good lead-up question to it but uh
with a lot of things that you've
discussed in the world today modernity
as a whole
um is separatism a good option it's like
taking kind of your inputs
um into the overall Zeitgeist is it is
it a worthwhile option to think about
like taking your toys and going home
every now and then
um and maybe like uh withdrawing your
participation in certain sectors of the
economy or culture things like this is
this like a worthy form of protest
uh no not as a form of protest
but as far as your personal just like as
personal advice I think yeah some
separation just like you know don't
don't give him your mind you know if you
have to go to work give them your effort
and get compensated don't give me your
mind you know you don't you don't have
to fucking watch the latest Marvel movie
you don't have to care about all this
shit that people Force themselves to
care about to feel like they're part of
some social belonging so yeah I mean in
some ways yeah it's true I think a lot
of people Force themselves to
participate and shit they don't even
want to just to feel like they belong
somewhere
I promise you just being lonely is
better
compared to that
no I appreciate that input but sometimes
I wonder like uh and yeah economically
you want to be as self-sufficient as
possible it's just like the goal if it
is an individual economically you want
to be as anti-social as possible like
away from other people as much as
possible being able to support yourself
as much that's the goal right
well yeah like one thing that comes to
mind is uh when I was a kid my parents
were very religious and they decided at
one point uh that we weren't gonna give
Disney any of our money we were going to
convince everyone else also to not give
Disney any of their their fucking money
right so I just think sometimes like
stuff like this and then really just the
overall uh like the overall environment
things like uh like coercion like the
excess amount of coercion in advertising
and in education and really a lot of the
sort of like like manufactured consent
like I guess
that it
could we be getting to a point where
like there is like more of a like not
just a need for like a mental or
spiritual removal but like at some point
like a physical removal like I need to
move out of LA and move to somewhere
else well L.A I mean okay I mean that's
a different you get what I mean if
you're not rich in La yeah leave La I
don't know why anyone is in La who's not
rich or famous in some way
um and I I trust me I've gone to La for
45 days I'm going back there soon to you
know spend time there but I would never
live there if I didn't if I wasn't rich
and famous
um
yeah I don't know I mean
I think people need to have sovereignty
as individuals you need to have some
level of dignity in your life where you
know but do you do you go extreme and go
off the grid completely no but I mean if
you want I guess if you need to but I've
never felt that need
what if we could convince others to do
it too that's kind of the way I look at
it like a lot of my friends see that
that I don't think that happens by word
of mouth I think that happens as a more
like information wave so if you look if
you can make it a movement online it'll
happen but if you're not going to make
that an offline movement
well no I get what you're saying but I
just noticed like a lot of us are
getting into our 30s now and because of
the world and what it is a lot of us are
like computer Engineers I.T whatever so
we've all started with covet to do like
this digital Nomad thing and that like
kind of allows like one of the things
that we've talked about like there are
places like West Virginia where there's
no jobs there but there's plenty of
property it's like these small towns
that are falling apart that like need
need that that extra kind of stimulation
and the idea is is if all these I don't
know and more of a community level if we
could find a way to maybe because
sometimes it feels like uh impossible to
get like a collective action achieved or
to convince everyone to execute a
boycott or something but so sometimes
like I don't know it might just be how
Bleak things are today but it almost
feels like hey if I can find enough
people who agree with me to just sort of
remove ourselves for a little bit and
kind of work our resources close to what
we want to achieve with more autonomy
maybe that's the play you know what I
mean
yeah yeah I guess
all right well that's about it yeah yep
see you later
thank you Char uh next stop we've got
um let's go with this person
uh I don't know how to pronounce this
thing
so I'm just going to call you
um
cursor that sounds about reaction so far
sir piercer
are you there
no you're not there okay no you don't
get a call so the next step we've got
um
lick cootie Torah whatever you I don't
know how to pronounce your name either
it's Mark what's up Ma
hello has how I hope you've been well I
want to ask you
what do you think about 90 of the people
in this uh in this uh how would you say
voice call uh Allah who don't believe in
the Bible and also what do you think
about old rtsg fighting the new rtsg
thank you
um so the 90 of the people who don't
believe in the Bible I just think
unfortunate it's probably an unfortunate
life but I don't know I I'm not familiar
with the rtsg Civil War I don't know
anything about that
I see
um
do you which which side do you support
well give me a rundown of the factions
and I'll tell you who I support
there's uh there's there's uh the
there's one side which they're basically
called old rtsg but they're not really
the original old rtsg and then there's
prism side that should basically make it
clear
are they in the rtsg server or like what
no they made their own server or
whatever it is oh fuck them they fuck
them yeah fuck them exactly man exactly
and yes exactly uh one other thing uh
Johnny socialism
right can you tell me why there hasn't
been a case study yet produced on the
anthropological homosexuality of Johnny
socialism
um
the talking
uh great thank you Mark okay next up we
have
uh Zonda Zonda as soon as I find you
here
uh yodoby can you check your DMs really
quick
uh not yet give me a second
okay it's time to go for it
yo doobie are you tatsui
Rd and um
uh Eagle right now
that's why you wanted to ask your
fucking question Eagle I'll mute them
right now
you're gonna do you have a question like
actually yeah my question involves those
three
I you know just you're gonna have to be
by yourself please
okay we're gonna move on to somebody
else then wait okay okay okay okay hurry
up
disgusting filthy bitch why are you such
a bitch
that's the question why are you such a
bitch is it you know you sound like you
sound like a text why are you such a
bitch you stupid dumb bitch why are you
such a bitch answer the question you
sound like a Texas dumb bitch answer the
question you fucking retard
okay thank you Sunday yeah I appreciate
it sounds like it
um okay so we're gonna go with orange
orange go for it
uh hey can you hear me
yeah we can hear you all right good
um my original all right what was the
question so I have a question about when
you talk about
um if when you talk about Iblis and um
what's his name Descartes right
yeah and you said that um iblis's sin is
essentially what Descartes did right
yes
and earlier now I heard you say
essentially that
um stupidity is arrogance if I was sum
it up yep
yeah so you would agree that arrogance
idealism and stupidity are part of the
same like phenomenon right yeah
and evil all right yeah
um I'm just clarifying this because I
heard you essentially say that Marxism
leads to Islam right
I think uh yeah it can yeah it can yeah
it does it always probably not but not
again yeah not as like a set of rules
but as in like a way of inter or viewing
I guess the worlds around you yeah yeah
um so
I have a question about the specifics
would you do you think it is necessary
to like literally believe the stories
actually happened to call yourself a
Muslim
uh
actually happened
yeah in some sense yes because the
stories are real right like they're real
the content is real now empirically did
they happen that doesn't matter that's
just a modern yeah that's a question
made from the perspective of scientific
modernity it has no religious uh
significance yeah
so for all intents if purposes yes it
happened
so
it's
if I'm getting your points
um
the actual like content and ideas and
the point of the story basically
you have to accept but like the idea of
did it is as like
did it literally happen as it like is I
think that question is a modern
scientific one and it's not yeah it's
not religiously
yeah yeah
because it doesn't change the actual
like um
I guess
contest the moral of the story yeah
yeah
that was it
okay
uh next up go with go for it
um hello can you hear me
is that life working all right yeah um
so basically my question is like the
biggest divide I think between like the
East and the West are just like Western
brain thinker versus Eastern brain
thinker is um like as you know Western
brain is more like analytic brand and
then Eastern is more continental and uh
my question basically is like do you
think we should like try and Bridge this
Gap and like uh Unite with like I guess
the Anglo brains or like
do we I wouldn't I wouldn't divide I
wouldn't uh Define the division in that
way actually
well okay like wait really quick to get
like an example like for example Biden
is not reading
um you know anything that's dialectical
if he's reading any philosophy it's he's
reading like Kane I mean I mean I think
the West is also dialectical the the
Western Enlightenment and Western
modernity
those thinkers are Western they're not
Eastern thinkers they're Western
thinkers
so I do think the the real division
between East and West to me
has more to do with uh
maybe to simplify it right these are
geographical terms they're about
Direction so if you want to simplify it
and just just deserve like a uh I don't
know what you call it a hermetic device
it's about the direction
between it's about what direction flows
as far as the individual and the
universal Community is concerned that
the individual finds themselves in
so in eastern societies it seems like
individuality flows in the direction of
universal community and the Western
Society it seems like the contrary is
the case Universal Community is just the
premise
or individuality and then the individual
flows
in the direction of
depending on how you want to look at it
nothingness or Divinity or the abyss or
like ex you know it's an existential
question individuals are faced with this
question what is the meaning of life
what is the meaning of being all that
kind of stuff it's a question right so
you take the community for granted as a
premise and then
your action and your activity is
oriented toward like
the outside as an individual like I'm an
individual and I'm faced with the
question what is the meaning of life all
that kind of stuff whereas in eastern
Society it seems like
they already have like a meaning exactly
precisely in eastern societies it seems
like the direction the individuals
toward is in an already existing so do
you think we can make that compatible in
the west or like we have to like go a
more individualistic route because like
for example democracy is obviously well
I don't know on your belief on this but
I feel like you know in America if you
just talk to any average conservative
they're like biggest values are like
life liberty Pursuit of Happiness so I
think uh I think
one of the great things about the
Hermetic device of east and west is that
the world wraps around if you go east
enough you go to the West if you go west
enough you go to the East and I actually
think that's true as far as
those distinctions are concerned it's
it's also true
if you go far enough down the Western
Rabbit Hole of existentialism and
searching for the meaning of life and
all that kind of stuff you're gonna
stumble upon
you know like taoism or something right
yeah precisely you're going to stumble
upon the Orient
and in the audience if you stumb if you
go towards
the universal community and all that
kind of stuff
you may find yourself in a predicament
similar to The Western one where you're
faced with the question of like
you know the universal community and
it's not given necessarily
I have another question
um do you know anything about like uh
the compatibility with Hegel and ghetto
or girdle I don't know I pronounce his
name kodo like gogos incomplete yeah do
you think like because like obviously
Hegel is straight up antithetical so
like someone like Bertrand Russell right
but with girdle like
I mean to be fair I don't think I
understand either Hegel or girdle well
enough to like my the only familiarity I
have with godo is the incompleteness
theorem yeah me too yeah
so yeah I think that's radically
hegelian already
yeah on Wikipedia it says one of uh
girdle's influences is hussaro so I mean
yeah well to me analysts quote unquote
analytical philosophy is a creature of
Burke Grant Russell
now
beyond that the distinction is just you
know yeah I I don't see I don't respect
the idea of analytical philosophy I just
think that's Bert Grant Russell's
dogmatism
yeah and it claims to be a completely
brand new form of philosophy it's not
well yeah yeah it's just salute back
yeah I guess to the main question it's
like these people like I don't know like
Destiny are just these kinds of people
they kind of Reason in this like
dogmatic Bertrand rustly wet and then
like they just create these systems and
they're just like I'm right because my
axioms presuppose whatever this BS and I
I used to think that especially about
Destiny I used to think that and then
the more I debated him
the more I realized he's not coming from
that perspective Destiny's coming more
from a perspective of what is the most
rhetorically persuasive
uh and
so I I don't think he I used to think
stuff as like a gaze
I used to think he was a logic Lord but
he's not a logic Lord for example I
remember
um
he he was like complaining about the ask
yourself Discord and like how they're
like logic Lords so I don't think I
don't think that's true for even for
watch it's not true right these people
maybe maybe they're not rigorous or
disciplined enough depends on how you
want to look at it either they're maybe
not rigorous or disciplined enough or
they just don't buy into it they don't
care for it but whatever one it is
they're not these are not uh logic
boards
so like do they just use it kind of as
like a bad faith uh I don't know like
if they if they use it yeah if they use
it it's in bad faith it's definitely
like when vosh I see him use it quite
often that's all bad things yeah he like
for example he'll he'll yeah he'll try
to use
formal logic as like a cudjoel even when
the application of formal logic would be
inappropriate in context because no
dogmatic axiomatic premise is being
supposed without an axiomatic premise
formal logic is meaningless
you can't impose it where it's not being
um
demanded
also like
even call himself like a Marxist or
whatever because like he tries to apply
formal logic so Marxism
it's like isn't oh yeah yeah wash there
is nothing nothing about Walsh
that's Marxist he has never Advanced the
ability to understand
vosh is more like a uh
he's more like a
the to the the extent of his socialism
is just like turbo charging the
Democratic Party
and I know he's espoused belief in like
all cooperatives and things like that I
mean
he's just a liberal right I mean maybe
you can call him a socialist of some
kind I don't care right but I would be
adamant saying like there's there's
nothing Marxist about
anything for us says
um I I couldn't I couldn't like I know
people try to make these like prejudices
about what Marxism is like oh yeah
Marxism is like where the workers versus
the capitalists and he's like vague
generalities that are in no way unique
to Marxism at all
and so but I don't see what's Marxist
about anything vosh has ever said before
like nothing right
yeah well I was gonna try to debate him
like last time he was in here and ask
him like how he could say he's a Marxist
and what I was like saying in my head is
like wouldn't he just call himself like
a revisionist or something like isn't
that wouldn't that be I mean look he was
challenging I'm trying to say like
there's no context that would establish
him
as a Marxism is about some very specific
stuff right Marxism is like okay
well do you care about the political
economy are you a capital are you a
scholar of capital or conversely are you
um
interested in understanding you know um
the significance of the proletariat and
the party form and the questions of
these these things right like that's
that's that's where Marxism is going to
be more relevant
uh so understanding actual class
analysis now vosh and socialists like
him in Redtube don't engage in class
analysis but they do
is they position class as a matter of
principle right the principle of owning
means of production versus the principle
of not having means of production the
significance of those is based on
principles it's not based on their
actual relevance in the real world
because in the real world social
formations are not distinguished on that
basis
it's not enough to understand the
complexity of social differences and
class differences in America today on
the basis of who owns and who doesn't
own means of production why because
formally speaking even CEOs don't own
their means of production salaried
profession I mean fucking LeBron James
doesn't own his means of production yeah
so like that's not a useful way to
understand the actual social differences
responsible for different political
outcomes and electoral patterns in the
United States it has no utility
except as a matter of principle that we
should be able to democratically decide
how the factory or how our workplaces
are run so for them classes are based on
that moral principle not based on any
objective significance in reality but
based on the
um moral principle that for whatever
reason workplaces should be turned into
emergency Among Us meetings and we need
to like vote about toilet paper and
things like that and in the absence of
that should in the absence of that moral
um
that moral uh aspiration being
implemented
you're going to Define classes like okay
this class doesn't have the power to
control this hat class has the power to
control but the only relevance of the
classes is again that moral aspiration
that's arbitrarily contrived so no it
has nothing to do with Marxism at all
right yeah thanks for that all right one
last quick question and then I'll have
someone else ask like questions do you
have any recommendation for books to
like just improve your like big picture
understanding of history and uh were
there any like I guess books that help
you understand a lot more about history
uh I always recommend I like to begin
because you have to begin with a rough
sketch so probably hegel's philosophy of
History like his lectures
yeah lectures on the philosophy of
History
all right thanks yep
all right have a good one great thank
you
next up uh Daniel Dirty Money go for it
hey what's up
um my question is how do you agree or
disagree with Zizek as a communist and
Dugan as a multi-polar Advocate like
fourth political Theory and whatnot
so uh I've made a video about this
before uh I mean it was a stream
for me my problem with Zizek
stems from the fact that Zizek
um
his ontology which he arrives at
which is all I care about when it comes
to g-jack it's all that matters is
ontology
still takes for granted
um
the beginning of logos the beginning of
the idea proper philosophy but also the
beginning of logos the Western logo so
for example Zizek
will
um
he will ascribe to the status of
nothingness something that is only
nothing from the perspective of logos
right
um when he says less than nothing when
he says negativity when he says the
negation
from a duganist perspective these not
this negation is only a moment in some
already reconciled positive being
but the reason Jesus cannot recognize
that kind of being is that it it's not
um
it's not being positioned from the
perspective of logos
perspective like not just Cartesian
cogito but logos right Western logos for
upper
tries to go like Heidegger tries to go
back to the beginning the premise of
thought right
Zizek rather than deal with the question
of beginning and premise deals with the
question of relation once we take the
beginning of Western Philosophy for
granted what are the very intricate
relations the logic like
uh defining relations between identity
and so on and so on so that's my
understanding
okay
um's a much broader thinker right gizic
is a more specific thinker that's that's
a way to put it
okay have you read the Great Awakening
versus the great reset by Dugan
unfortunately no I haven't read it yet
but I'm I'm meaning to read it
okay I just read it um it's he's
basically saying like the great reset is
like this big liberal project to you
know basically uh enforce globalism and
you know the unipolar system and Dugan
is a big uh advocate of the multi-polar
world and fourth political Theory
correct um and he he calls um like the
the Trump supporters in America as part
of the Great Awakening and um he's he's
against
um like the globalist Liberals like what
what do you what are your thoughts on it
foreign
agree with Dugan fully on on this front
okay
yeah me so I read the book I thought it
was based like
um shit
like does Isaac like uh the the Zizek
conversation there was it it's a little
bit too
too to fill out the first African for me
because I'm not even like I'm not even
that deep into it like because I just
watched this
um this YouTube video of zaizak he was
given he was doing like an interview and
he he said something he said um
uh wouldn't it be nice if like the left
would uh advocate for family values
instead of all the instead of just
countering that
um with LGBT rights
and so
you consider yourself a communist how do
you huh
yeah I uh I think Zizek
he said nice good things right I'm
talking we're just talking about
cultural whatever stuff he said good
things but ultimately
g-shek is politically uh he's a liberal
he's aligned with the globalists
ultimately politically now I have great
respect for his philosophy his ontology
that complicated stuff but when it
ultimately where he's coming from is Pro
liberal that was quote unquote liberal
Freedom right
um
okay so that's ultimately where he's
coming from every time he says things
like that it's just to provoke
like uh to provoke critical thinking but
it's not necessarily because he's
fundamentally he's not against the LGBT
movement
he's just critical of how that movement
can lead to contradictions that
undermine its own base spaces so Zizek
is ultimately a defender of
West Western Europe European
um
historical teleology like Western Europe
is the culmination of history for him
okay so I read uh Ride The Tiger by
Julius Evola and went down the uh
radical traditionalist rabbit hole and
so I I really sympathize with
Dugan and his fourth political Theory
he's trying to um he's trying to uh
merge it with like ancient traditions
yeah yeah yeah but Dugan is coming from
a crucial Russian perspective so any
influence uh Dugan is getting from Evola
and the rest
he's still not going to be
um
considering inadequate and outdated I'm
I'm saying I Live Once by Ebola but I um
but Dugan in his fourth political Theory
he wants it he wants it to be like um
uh
you know multi-polar so
yeah like there would be like
intertwined with the ancient traditions
of its respective culture
or even or even new ideas but that takes
inspiration from uh like ancient
ancient uh theories or spiritual beliefs
or what have you
okay
well thank you uh Daniel so so doobie
let's do uh let's do another uh what do
you think 10 minutes is that right
sure yeah it works let's do another 10
minutes we've been going for like uh
five hours and there's so some of them a
lot but you know they'll have to cope uh
virtuous you're up
finally man I've been waiting for three
hours straight man no breaks man
you know I like you man you'd be saying
a lot of good points but I have a very
genuine question
uh where do you think morality comes
from
you give me a second all right
um
uh for me morality comes from
being so immorality for me is something
real
eternal
and coming from a sacred reality now I
say being if you're religious you're
going to say God
but
the reason I won't say God outright is
because oftentimes people sometimes mean
that in a very naive way but for me
morality comes from something real not
something made up
uh so would this mean that it's
objective and rid of all subjective
interpretation
no because paradoxically
our subjective interpretations also are
dictated by
an objective law and an objective
reality why we have the subjective
interpretations we do is because of a
more fundamental and objective reality
yeah so you're what you're saying is
that we have objective morality but it's
just because of being
is what you're saying uh roughly uh
roughly we our morality is a fact of our
being you want
a fact of our being so like
there is no such thing as objective
morality because if it's no it is
objective
well then that if it's objective How
Could my being of morality be different
from yours who's this correct because
you're you're being I would say is not
only your individuality
part of your being is that for example
you're part of a community you're part
of a history you're part of a people
um and you're part of a reality
yeah I do not just disagree with these
things so what you're saying if if I
could be exactly clear to get a a clear
statement here is objective morality
exists correct yes
uh could you name me like one objective
uh like if I did it I would be
objectively good can you name me one
thing
so that would be a normative judgment
by me right
morality is not suspended objectively in
that way so for example
um
if you were to
do something
like
let me put it this way just to avoid
confusion it would be objective to you
it would be objective for you I mean
if you for example let's just do the
classic do unto others what you want to
do to yourself right if you like push an
old lady down the stairs or some shit
um
that would be objectively immoral for
you
well how
because of the doing to others do unto
yourself day
because the way because if morality is
about the relation between
your will
and some
um higher good right something more than
just your will you agree with that right
morality is about a relation between
your decisions and
whether what is animating those
decisions which clearly must be Beyond
this decisions aren't made in and of
themselves in a vacuum right there's
something responsible for them there's
something that defines the nature of
those decisions outside of the decisions
themselves right
yeah
so if that's true
then
it's kind of like a like a kantian
whatever categorical imperative it's
like you have
done something
that I could not imagine is compatible
with any possible good right any
possible good
that
has any reality outside of that decision
yeah I understand what you're saying
and I mean like I know there's like a
lot of like like holes in this specific
example like oh what about this
circumstances but like I'm just very
broadly right push do some like
do some shit like uh do something that
is very clearly radically incompatible
with like us the reproduction of any
Celsius right
yeah so like
uh let's say I'm in a forest this is
this is my last question by the way but
let's say I'm in a forest and I haven't
eaten in uh two weeks and I kill someone
to survive is that a moral
why do you want to survive
I I mean uh why would I want to survive
or like in this hypothetical why this
guy wanting to survive
the the guy like what what's the meat
what's what's the purpose of his life he
has uh he has two uh daughters at home
but the guy he killed also has two
daughters at home
all right so he wants to take care of
his family
um
and he's in the woods and
his only shot at survival and therefore
saving his daughters is killing this
person yeah but he's also taking away
that person's two daughters from having
a father basically
would he be in the right because the
guy's not sharing food with him
this this guy
um hypothetically speaking the same is
true for him he's also starving
no the so there's two guys in a forest
drive one has a lot of food and he isn't
sharing but they both have no way out
but another guy hasn't had food in two
weeks so he killed the guy is he not
sharing out of necessity or is he not
sharing because he's an ass he's just
not sharing to be a weirdo oh fuck him
yeah fuck that guy yeah so it's a it's a
moral act to kill him
uh to save your daughters yeah I do
think so yeah
all right that was my last question man
yeah
sure
wow
um so I have a question okay we only
have like three minutes left yeah for
sure
um my question
is uh
what do you um
I'm like I'm really curious because we
spoke to a lot of people today
unfortunately
um and I noticed something like a
pattern in the people that were coming
on
uh typically the people that were like
very against you uh were people that
have like anime profile pictures
um very soy voices uh and this is like
coming from me somebody like whenever I
speak people accuse me being trans or
being gay or whatever right so for me to
submit your voice is soy it's got to be
pretty fucking soy right to be honest
um lots of anime profile pictures lots
of weird weeb shit and they're Discord
about me like what do you think this is
is this just like what is it about like
and there's a guy uh charmhole who was
begging me in DMS to let me uh to let
him come on here and fucking argue with
you about anime
uh for all for the last four hours he's
been doing this hey doobie let me let me
argue this fucking guy about anime you
owe me let me argue with him about anime
like what is this this Crossover with
these weird soy beta cuck bitch lefties
quote unquote and weeb shit in anime and
Lolly porn like what what is this like
how does that happen
I think the common denominator
well that's probably not the deepest
cause
the deeper the deeper cause we'd have to
go investigate further right but at
least that face value we're definitely
dealing with an extreme deficiency of
testosterone levels the
um fascination with anime
profile picture clearly evinces either a
pedophilic form of sexual attraction or
a form of sexual attraction
uh that is not
driven by an actual like sufficiently
male drive right like if it the more
like the more T levels you have the more
you're probably going to be attracted to
like people who are much more mature and
womanly right whereas if you're kind of
like have these Low T levels you're
going to have this
um fixation
on
you're gonna you're gonna have this
weird fixation on cuteness right that
makes you a creep in a pedal right women
love cuteness right but when a man when
a man does it it's really creepy because
men are also aggressive and
you know uh creepy and shit so yeah so
yeah it's like you're gonna like the
cuteness Factor more
um
and and why do those people hate me why
do people with low T generally have a
problem with me I think it's a Freudian
type of resentment where they feel like
I'm taking away
I'm taking their manhood away so they I
remind them of the fact that they have
no manhood and then they they think oh
he must be taking it away from me right
so that's where all the resentment comes
from well in reality I'm not taking
anything from them they just are bitch
made or have children it's like you're
holding up a mirror to what they're not
what they should be yeah yeah it's like
they have this it's like it's like they
had to see me as a father figure I have
a big beard and shit like they see me as
like this father
who they hate and resent so much because
I'm in a Freudian way I'm castrating
them right
that makes sense yeah I hadn't thought
of it like that
well has thank you very very much for
coming on and staying on with us for so
long I had a great time I hope you did
too oh yeah thank you thank you you had
a great time yeah
yeah we always we always appreciate you
coming on so anytime you want to yeah I
I don't want to pass you too much but no
no it's a lot of fun I have a lot of fun
it's a lot of fun awesome well yeah have
a great night you too thanks again for
coming on uh the rest of you
um I'm going to do something really
fucking dumb and meet you in the chat
um so when that happens you'll be able
to speak you just need to leave the
channel and rejoin and you can be really
mad about how it's beating up
intellectually for us five hours all
right I'll see you later Julie
appreciate it
all right
all right so guys there's a few things I
want to show you and I was going to kind
of make a video about this so tomorrow
we're going to react to that cpusa video
but I did want to show you guys some
things
come on let me give me a give me a a
quick
give me a quick sec
give me a quick sec
last night I'm gonna take and I'm
walking along the river
look at me that way
baby I will get that name
all right
uh yeah we're gonna react to the cpusa
video tomorrow however I do have
something to show you guys
by the way I had so many donations that
I couldn't read
because I was in the middle of talking
and I'm so sorry for that guys
I'm so so sorry
um
have you read the Great Awakening was
great reset by Dugan uh I have not thank
you for that Daniel
come on uh I see Anglo serpent can't get
straight to the point facts as we're
acting like vosh you cause this
conversation to go on much longer okay
Chris Morlock I was not able to get to a
lot of your nsls do not require private
approval from a judge that's what I
thought
oh you are being extremely bad faith
using the tricks of wash
Chris Morlock thank you for that oh
thank you w11 appreciate you man Chris
Morlock
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um
free Palestine from Drake thank you man
JC Denton let's go appreciate you all
right I think it was all those all the
Donald's
okay so there's something interesting
that's happened
uh and I'm kind of baffled
because
it's like of all the communities
why this community
okay I don't know right I don't know
what it is I don't know why this happens
but it does and um
so you you won't you're not going to
believe this all right so look at this
shit right so I'm I'm banned on Twitter
okay I'm banned on Twitter for now
and an infrared gorilla said Mr Beast
works for the Deep State I cannot be
convinced otherwise
and he actually responded
to an infrared gorilla all right
what in the world
and if you don't know who Mr Beast is
he's like the biggest fucking YouTuber
in the internet
he's got 15 million followers he's like
on YouTube he's got like what let me see
Mr Beast
this is easily yeah 104 million
subscribers all right so this is very
easily the most famous person to ever
interact with us I don't know what it is
about our community that are in like
attracts blue checks to respond but
yeah very clearly
um Mr Beast
responded
saying he worked for the Illuminati
and maybe you were right dude like why
would he respond if if you didn't hit a
Nerf you know you must have hit a nerve
some kind
because why would he feel the need to
respond if it wasn't true that's how
powerful our community is we are even
exposing Mr Beast even Mr Beast is being
exposed all right
and you know the debate is coming soon
Mr Beast debate coming soon
but yeah that's a thing
that happens apparently we just
gorillas are interacting with Mr Beast
on Twitter
and that's a thing
I should have put that in the thumbnail
and shit but like I don't want a bunch
of fucking young ass people
fans
being like you know
sorry man it's just maybe not my crowd
it's not my crowd no hey please don't
swarm me please don't swarm me
please don't swarm me
look into the Angel Eyes one look at
your hypnotized even if you're learning
to those
there was other things I had been
meaning to address
that I need to find
foreign
Edward Bernays
thank you so much diogenes and I forgot
who that is
I forgot who Edward Bernays is
how sad
how sad
how sad
foreign
I see
I see but I just forgot what I was going
to show you guys
actually we should probably react to the
CPU say shit why not
why not
now we'll do it tomorrow we'll do
tomorrow we still have stuff to do
though today
but by the way guys join my telegram he
just go in the description go to my
YouTube description join our personal
telegram it's fucking lit as fuck
and it's so fun
it's so fun and it's just it's even more
big brain than my Twitter okay it's a
lot of fun
so check it out
so check it out
or face the penalty of
missing out
yeah Lenin's economism is a valid
criticism I do think that
so fucking based okay guys if you don't
know this I'm gonna promote this more
the Schiller Institute conference
is going to be October 15th not October
8th it's going to be in Manhattan
Saturday the 15th 10 a.m to 5 p.m and
look at the lineup
look at this incredible lineup
build a new paradigm defeat green
fascism look at this lineup
fucking based right right and I'm gonna
be there hurry
hooray
I will be there hold on give me a moment
I will be there
I will be there to have fun with
everyone and guys
I don't know if I can make promises all
right it's gonna be a Saturday
it's gonna be a Saturday that's gonna be
a Saturday so I don't know if I can make
promises no I am going to promise
something
I am gonna hang out with the community
if you guys come
but don't don't
spend within your means don't don't quit
your job or some I don't know how people
are on the internet I know there's some
people that love me a lot
but don't be reasonable right
because there's going to be multiple of
you know but listen if you come
we're gonna hang out I'm gonna hang out
with my people
because there wasn't enough infrared
people at the CPI conference or if there
was you guys were scared to approach me
because I remember I streamed I was like
if you see me in person Don't Go Near me
well that doesn't that doesn't count
when we're at an event
so we're gonna I'm gonna hang out with
the community right it's gonna be a fun
time
it's a Saturday it's in New York
and I don't want anyone to be nervous
my only demand is that you shower and
don't smell bad
okay and don't have boogers hanging out
of your nose all right don't be one of
those people where it's just like
disgusting to stare at your face
but if you can do that
then you have nothing to be ashamed of
come hang out and we'll have fun
and you know at least for a little bit
I'll chill with you maybe a few hours or
something I don't know we'll chill all
the whole Community together
um
and we'll like we'll have like a an in
real life stream where everyone sits
down and I I start talking and shit I
don't know oh we'll have fun okay we'll
have fun
we'll have fun
it'll be fun it's gonna be a fun time
uh 15th 15th of October in Manhattan
get your tickets get your tickets it'll
be fun guys we want to get a lot of
people that's the thing we want a lot of
people okay if you live on the east
coast you better come if you're on the
East Coast you must come or
you're banned but just it's 20 bucks all
right it's like in a month
it's a Saturday if you're on the East
Coast hop on a train and just head over
okay
it'll be a lot of fun
it's gonna be a lot of fun
foreign
La in oh I was gonna go to La this week
but then you I'm told by Jackson UCLA is
not opening until a few weeks
so what I'm going to do is I'm going to
go to La late this month late this month
at the end of this month probably like
the 25th or something and then I'm gonna
stay in California until after twitchcon
because I'm going to be going to
twitchcon but I'm not going to twitchcon
I'm going to the twitchcon parties and
twitchcon Gatherings and shit
and why am I doing that
I don't know I'm doing it
have fun
but twitchcon
is gonna be great because it's gonna be
masked and vaccinated so I'm not missing
out on anything all right I can't go to
the in-person twitchcon event but I'm
going to be going and I'm gonna be
chilling with zerka and other twitchcon
people and maybe Slicker will be there I
don't know if he's going
I'm not sure
I am not sure guys did I thank you
Daniel appreciate you thank you for the
great chat when you coming to LA
uh in a few weeks maybe two or three
weeks
try to two weeks
soon
I'm not going to Michigan this week
anymore I was gonna go this week I'm not
going anymore I'm going next week next
weekend maybe
Maybe
maybe not
maybe or maybe not
one truth and a paradise even
pay the price
I kind of want to watch these like
videos of giant ass houses you guys want
to watch these
let's watch them
[Music]
I have
okay it's not gonna be a while all right
let's watch this video about this
fucking billionaire
um
I don't wanna I'm not gonna snitch it's
actually if I wear a mask I can go to
twitchcon if I wear a mask I can't I'm
not gonna do it though but it yeah
hypothetically I would but why for what
you know
for what I only know like a few people
on Twitch
[Music]
so I'm standing here on Billionaire's
row where the average price of an
apartment is just about 9.8 million
dollars in this video I'm going to show
you what it's actually like to live here
on billionaires Row in New York City
now billionaires row is a set of Ultra
Luxury residential skyscrapers
constructed or still
I had a dream that I did confront Hassan
in real life
but
it was we were like hanging out
that's the dream I had I had a dream we
were hanging out
it was so weird we were like I don't
know where it was it was like at
twitchcon or somewhere
and we were like we were not on we were
not on bad terms you know
it's so weird
development right along the southern end
of Central Park in Manhattan the
boundaries of billionaires row extend
from Park Avenue on the East to Columbus
Circle in the west right along 57th
Street now several of these buildings
are in the Super tall category and
someone fucking type in the chat
the fuck what a dead ass chat
I get fucking banned
which means they're taller than 1 000
feet or 300 meters and they are among
the tallest buildings in the entire
world the towers that make a
billionaires Road include 157th which
was built in 2014 and is 75 stories tall
this was the first of the super tall
skyscrapers and it's nicknamed the
billionaires building then you have 432
you guys don't know how much like I want
one of these fucking giant penthouses
oh you wouldn't no I would live in one
are you fucking kidding and above all
the peasants of the world and you're
just on the fucking top so cool
Park Avenue which was completed in 2015
and is 85 stories tall next up is 53
West 53rd Street now this is technically
not on Billionaire's row but it's
included in this group of super tall
skyscrapers I always I always I wish I
always wake up and I'm like why the fuck
didn't I buy Bitcoin in 2010
and I knew about it too
why didn't I fucking grab a hundred
dollars or something and just fucking
you know what I mean
oh man why why why
I could have had this man I could have
had this
creepers and this was completed in 2019
and Rises 77 floors above Manhattan then
we have 111 West 57th Street which was
completed in 2021 Rising a whopping 91
floors and finally we have Central Park
Tower which is the tallest of the
billionaires Rose skyscrapers Rising 95
floors up completed in 2021 at a cost of
three billion dollars ironically enough
the people who live in these
floor of this building right here 157
also known as the billionaires building
[Music]
yeah but imagine living in this building
and living on like the 10th floor
[Laughter]
you know what I want to do I'm gonna go
to this building on the sidewalk
and every everyone who doesn't live on
the top floor I'm gonna Point him like
hi you fucking peasant you little bitch
why would you live in this building if
you're not living on the top that's so
humiliating imagine being a fucking
virgin ass billionaire little bitch
you're going in this building you're
like all right here's my key card I
guess I'll live on the ninth floor you
little bitch I'm gonna stand on the
sidewalk and fucking make fun of your
broke bitch ass
you fucking bait a male ass bitch see
I'm the king wherever I live
even if I'm homeless I'll make it I'll
make it my kingdom I'm not gonna be a
fucking peasant and live on the ninth
floor of this building right what a
fucking humiliating thing
[Music]
so welcome to unit 45C now
Harman was going for 16 million the
price has been cut down to 13 million so
this is as close as you get to an
average apartment and mind you it's all
relative average apartment here on
billionaires row some stats on this
apartment
what a fucking peasant what kind of
peasant lives in this shithole that's
four bedrooms four and a half baths not
even on top it's three thousand four
hundred and oh wow nice
yeah if I just went in this room and I
just started spinning around like a
Beyblade everything would fucking
shatter immediately 66 square feet of
enormous luxury living space here on
billionaires road so come on in and
enter this apartment the first thing you
see is floor to steel window with a view
of Central Park and this is why this
apartment costs 13 million oh yeah 13
million dollars to see this
free house what does this even fucking
say
what is this Essex House a beautiful
site this ugly fucking cockroach Motel
shithole right what a beautiful sight
dude that's totally worth 13 million
what a fucking peasant look at this
peasant dude he looks out his window and
he has to see other people out the
window what a fucking broke bitch
what a broke fucking pussy
you have the sea of green that is
Central Park now here in the entryway I
want to point out that all the staging
in this apartment is by covet house you
have this awesome Street Lamp coming out
of this full-length mirror here so come
on in from there
that's literally a crack then
the fuck is this raggedy bloodborne
fucking boarded up crack then
fucking
syphilis then fucking
Spanish Flu boarded up fucking sickened
place of Dusty sickness and rugged down
broken down World War One collateral
damage type of fucking artillery
collateral damage fucking War torn ass
fucking bunk ass fucking
shit why the fuck would you have this
the entryway you have your guest swing
off to my right as you cut in front of
me this is your gallery hallway here in
this 13 million dollar apartment on
billionaires row and we're just going to
go to the the main attraction we're
going to come back here and go through
all these rooms off this guy yikes can
you just not be Satanist hallway you
just have like a nice painting but
welcome to your great room here in 157
the hallways the biggest waste of space
of all why would you have a big hallway
like that the 45th you could come that
whole hallway could be five rooms if you
use the what an ugly inefficient use of
space
or check this out
hey am I supposed to be look honestly
you couldn't pay me to fucking live here
look how ugly this background look how
ugly this view is this is the most
hideous ugly view I could ever fucking
imagine
there's not even a TV in that room what
a depressing shithole I bet the Wi-Fi
sucks too
this Grand salon is enormous you have
three exposures you're Northern you're
Eastern and your Southern it is 43 feet
in length and over 20 feet in width and
it's entirely surrounded by
floor-to-ceiling glass windows okay so
instead of watching Netflix you get to
watch fucking
crackheads in New York what the fuck is
this what a fucking stupid fucking room
no TV at all that you pay a premium here
and it's just uncomfortable Furniture
what the fuck what is that for at least
have like a lounge have like a giant big
couch and a TV to chill what the fuck is
that
a fucking that looks like it's made out
of glass a glass a glass furniture set
to make your ass hurt when you sit for
long periods of time
what a fucking waste we're on
billionaires row so we're gonna continue
the tour on leaving the Grand salon back
look at that fucking couch you can't
even rest your back on it
back into the gallery hallway speaking
of design I've seen my fair share of
luxury listings and I know that staging
can make or break any space and that's
why I'd like to thank mozzie for
sponsoring this week's episode namazi is
an online mozzie Style Quiz so shut this
off in case you are having a chef in
here properly preparing your meals
taking up the majority of the real
estate here in the kitchen you have this
Granite Island which has the waterfall
edge here is your dual Sub-Zero
refrigerator
this is the most mediocre kitchen I've
ever seen in my life your combo I'm just
like how beautiful this stuff is like I
love nice kitchen you can really
appreciate a nice kitchen that literally
looks like a random ass kitchen in
Detroit Michigan that's the most random
shit I've ever seen and then you have
your refrigerator drawers below again
dual on either side main Hairway down
you have your wine storage here let's
actually pop this open
oh alcoholics will love this oh nice and
chilly in here then you have your melee
Suite here your cappuccino maker your
oven storage above and below I want to
point this out you actually have your
Outlets built into the side of the
island here so they're out away they're
out of sight no one really likes outlets
in a place like this and then
additionally along this far back wall
you have the granite on the backsplash
it's just ugly
this is ugly the countertop you have
your whole meal you know why I'm saying
it's ugly because I was looking at Miami
homes in Miami fucking billionaire
places wow it's so much better who the
fuck would live in New York in this
shithole tweet here so a six burner
cooktop with I've never seen this and
comment down below if you know what this
is I believe this is a charcoal grill
I'm actually not quite sure so comment
down below if you know what that is dual
dishwashers and if you live in the city
you know that having even just one is a
rare thing here you have two this
beautiful deep set Gourmet Chef sink
dornbach fixtures very expensive and
then on this side here you have two
ovens and your warming drawer down below
off of the island you have this nice
cozy little breakfast moment here and
Views to what would be the South you can
see 53 West 53rd Street looking straight
down
on what a beautiful sight
57th Street I really love this kitchen I
like how clean and open and Airy it is
and really works for the space so making
our way out of the kitchen
through this door we're gonna head back
out into that Gallery hallway off to the
left We're not gonna make our way down
the space again this whole home has
smart Tech built in off to the right
here this would be the owner's Wing here
in this Penthouse I'm gonna keep this
shut you have closets on either side
then an additional cost ahead of you and
if we make the corner and turn up to the
right this is the owner's bedroom here
in 157 could you imagine waking up what
with the view of Central Park what view
what look at this fucking crack Den
Motel obstructing it and yeah this is a
shitty view the view of the park is
really the selling point here not only
that but it's the Privacy the exclusive
so this this looks like a you know this
looks like this looks like a fucking
single
47 year old
woman's yoga
fucking bedroom
that's the main character in She-Hulk
attorney at law and there's just like a
bunch of shit everywhere and it's just
fucking it's a mess and it's a pigsty
but yeah it's quirky because it's the
New York live and it's She-Hulk attorney
at law shut the fuck up
activity those views the access to fine
dining shopping all right here and like
I mentioned the majority of people who
are actually living here aren't actually
living here uh they're using these
apartments for places to store value and
if they are living here they're going
from their driver to the office to the
restaurant and then right back up here
so off of the bedroom area this is what
the what did he say the office the what
the owner's bathroom so yeah I I can
tell no one wants to live in that
shithole is very not cool to live in
entering the owner's bathroom you have
these gigantic slabs of Italian marble
which have all been book Matched you
have it on the floors oh it's Italian
marble sorry
are there rocks in Italy better or some
shit like do I am I missing something
they always say this shit you got to
catch them everyone's trying to rip you
off in this world everyone's trying to
fucking rip you off in this fucking
world they are the Rocks better in Italy
I'm sorry
are rocks of higher quality in fucking
Italy I'm pretty sure rocks are this
fucking same thing no matter where you
go
oh yeah we have like a jar of Italian
air in it what
what well I have dirt from fucking I
have fucking dirt from Timbuktu okay
okay
who the fuck cares if it's fucking
Italian fucking marble
are the Rocks better than Italy I don't
fucking think they are I think the
sentiment is the fucking same
yeah well if you lick it it's it's it
tastes more like fucking marinara if you
if you lick the fucking Italian marble
it's like it tastes more like mac and
cheese or so I don't fucking know
why the fuck would it be different
and the walls beautiful large soaking
tub those views from the tub of Central
Park here you have your floating vanity
with dual sinks I love the steel frame
mirror with the built-in lights on
either side and then Additionally you
have frosted glass with those steel
frames enter in the water closet and
additionally for your walk and shower
which is pretty damn cozy if I say so
myself leaving the owner's bathroom and
head back into that Gallery hallway and
directly across the hallway for
convenience this is staged as the
children's room as you can see you have
the prop plane in here this is probably
very very expensive I'm not quite sure
actually all right this looks like a
fucking torture chamber this looks like
a fucking cryogenic chamber they're
putting children in to fucking turn them
into the soy male 3.0 when they grow up
the fuck is this cryogenic inhuman in
Hispanic I'm sorry a fucking dumbass if
I don't know if I couldn't see that that
was an airplane a dumbass fucking baby
isn't gonna know that's an airplane
either so whoever's idea that was is
clearly you don't know what the fuck I
even I can't fucking tell what that is
you think a kid is gonna see that as an
airplane you're stupid
some dumb fucking artsy fartsy Furniture
maker oh and here we have the designer
app
air crib for the baby and the fucking
baby doesn't even fucking understand any
of it so fucking stupid
fucking New York
dumbass fucking and here we have the
designer airplane bed flame for the baby
and it looks like a fucking cryogenic
fucking Medical Aid surgery table
the fuck
this Baby's gonna be crying all night
you do know the entire coffee and and
the best part is they're gonna fall
a baby will fall out of this even I
would fall out of this
even I would fall out of that fucking
thing
so good job they're gonna fall unless
you have a glass hatch that you're gonna
fucking put over this and to confirm
more that it's like a cryogenic fucking
chamber you're trapping people in
the staging for this apartment is just
about 400
000
so that bed is four hundred thousand
dollars you can buy a real fucking
airplane you can probably buy that
airplane for 400 that it's trying to be
a model off of for four hundred thousand
what a fucking retarded fucking family
this is why we need fucking communism
because they're just throwing money
around they're just it's all fucking
waste they're just throwing it around
it's a waste think about it you can feed
how many homeless people with that
stupid fucking bed
how many homeless people could you feed
with that dumb fucking bed man what a
stupid fucking system we live in what a
dumb fucking allocation of resources
this is
just for the furniture but as you can
see it's a very decent sized second
bedroom so let's head back out into the
hallway at the very end here this is
where the remaining bedrooms are in this
Penthouse so off to the left this one
has currently been staged as a home
office but like I mentioned they all
have those ensuite bathrooms and here is
your executive moment on billionaires
Row in your quote like I feel like this
apartment is so claustrophobic and it's
because it's not on the first floor
again there's no point in getting any of
this if it's not on the penthouse this
is the most like claustrophobic fucking
thing I've ever seen average Penthouse I
I use the quotes because people in the
comments are like what 13 million
dollars it's kind of hard to wrap your
head around but yeah this is an average
apartment and here's your home office
and then additionally we have a powder
room here connecting these two bathrooms
with this beautiful Onyx here on the
backsplash full length mirror cool built
this is a private outdoor select I've
seen this I've seen this fucking one
I've seen that one
we're gonna watch another one I've seen
this the solarium I remember that
fucking stupid Solarium this I don't
even know what I had to look it up what
that was it's a Solarium
that's hilarium uh Solarium
I'm gonna look at this now this is what
the peasants live in the smallest one
now we're gonna look at the smallest one
officially these smallest apartments in
all of New York City
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foreign
hallway we have the actual Apartments we
have four units here
footage I got the uh this is not the
smallest apartment in New York City it
has its own kitchen how can it be small
laser tools yeah what do we have here 17
feet
sit by six feet six inches how tall are
you six four so if you go horizontal
your head and your feet are going to
touch the fridge roughly 18 by six so
like 110 square feet not counting the
bathroom so maybe it gets up to 175 150
square feet Max this is the biggest
place that we're seeing your bed I can't
see another spot for it then in this
corner somewhere and I think you're
going to want to get the smallest bed
that you can but once you've got a bed
here really yeah this is like very
livable I don't know why they're saying
this is so I I was expecting
I was expecting it to be like where you
have to like squeeze into it I didn't
think there was like this isn't that
small this is very livable right I was
thinking there it's gonna be like so
tiny that you have to squeeze inside and
like
you can't even fit in it fully
like you're gonna be like constricted I
would be impressed by that I mean oh
shit people live in that
past the fridge I mean it's gonna be a
small table and probably like a TV
mounted on the wall and that's the setup
I I wouldn't put a couch here what's
crazy most people they don't do a Murphy
bed because they're gonna live here for
like two years they didn't have one in
their parents house growing up and it
just doesn't make sense when oh I might
move in with so and so in a year anyways
why am I going to spend more than I need
to right exactly let me show you guys
the bathroom
this is probably a nine foot go look at
the bathroom dude wait till you see that
are you seeing this in the frame so for
some perspective like I'm a pretty big
person but I picked it up the entire I
couldn't fit in that bathroom I'm way
too wide I couldn't fit in there the
door of this bathroom bathroom sink we
have a vanity the shower
is just in the middle here sandwich and
you have the shower rod to then cover
the water from getting on your toilet
I've never seen
okay yeah that bathroom was impressively
small I will say that bathroom is
impressively small just like oh the
claustrophobia is fucking nightmarish
cleaning bathroom because everything's
gonna get wet because your shower's
right here in the middle and you have
the nice shower caddy
I can't believe this I mean we're going
to take some measurements but this is
you have to go inside look you had to
turn the kitchen with the kitchen the
kitchenette we have a sink some nice
storage area
should we test yeah I mean
you have insurance I mean that's not bad
the the bed is on top okay so it's not
too cluttered does Eric have insurance
so you could sleep up here this holds uh
215 pounds
wow so you would put a ladder there and
then this only 215 pounds
yeah good luck it'll be the best and
actually look at this I'm just noticing
this you have spackle oh yeah someone
someone had a ladder you know we gotta
look at the positives when renting
because this whole video is about you're
just moving to the city for the first
time you're looking for that first place
so on the positives you have a huge
window yeah with tons of light bouncing
off that window you have the fire escape
which is this could be a balcony you
know you mind if I pop out there at your
own risk let's head out there you have
your own I guess you could call this a
Terrace if I can even make it out here
okay got the shimmy out here
okay we made it so you do have
technically an outdoors you know what's
funny is we have another member with us
and this is the smallest place and you
said it's pet friend it is pet friendly
so St Mark's Place fun neighborhood
right by you know New York University as
well since it kind of takes over
downtown but definitely an awesome block
lots of restaurants this is it this is
it 14 Saint Marks that's right
see I was excited we're kind of look at
this dog he's just like foaming and
chomping at the pit to get in let's go
feel come on
this is actually a pretty impressive
entryway so this is the nicest building
that we've been to so far Diego's gonna
go in there and film our reaction to
seeing this but don't say anything when
you get down there I want to just I want
to have the reaction
are you good to go in no let him get in
position
get as far back as you can
that's plenty of room that's not bad at
all that's plenty
all right ready all right let's do this
this can't be legal this is it this is
it man what
that's plenty we're home
what is the square footage of this this
is let me get the tool there's a bunk
bed here without the bottom bunk we've
got a wall yeah it's plenty better than
prison
hey guys be grateful everyone be
grateful all the time you could that's a
prison cell you can that's bigger than a
prison cell it's got more than a prison
cell you could be in prison for a long
time be grateful in life always this is
not that bad honestly it's not
going on
a sink I guess this is the kit is there
a bathroom it's out in the hallway oh my
gosh the hallway bathrooms
okay I don't know what to say you could
never live here with a dog
that's what I'm thinking and let's do it
it was a tiny dog but could you imagine
this dog living itself and feel in the
frame I can actually go and try to move
in and none of it fits
all right well that that place is fine
you asked me right that's not that bad
so guys uh Jackson raid me
Jackson where you at
stories here to stick around
all right
I
don't I can't stream that much
um
uh uh guys we're at the end of the road
closing time guys this is like a foe
this is like a full
quick stream isn't it this is like a
full twitch stream
that we did Frozen time
oh yeah uh oh yeah yeah there's one last
thing
someone mentioned Destiny in the chat
apparently Destiny put me on a blacklist
destiny
let me get the clip
because uh someone sent it to me that I
only have it on mobile
but here's what it was here was the clip
three days can I have three days to be
the person that people say that I am
like if you want to see blacklisted like
I could show you blacklisted like I
could start pulling like I think me and
Seiko are decently friendly now like we
asked about the dinner yesterday he
cancels birthday plans me and Linda did
it I'm pretty sure I could explicitly
say to him like Hey dude I like hanging
out with you but like two things one I
think hanging out with Nick is a really
bad idea and two I'm not gonna be on
stream with you anymore if you do like
you can do your thing but I'm just
letting you know like I could start
pulling moves like that to get you Uber
blacklisted from everything right and I
can tell that to every single person
that I associate with and they're always
going to choose me over you just because
I'm not doing platform I've got a bigger
audience like if you really want to see
what being blacklisted by Destiny feels
like I could start doing it I don't
think I've ever done that to anybody in
my life
um I think I've done that to one person
who was it fuck
was it Haas or was it Hinkle it was all
right so
ever since I saw that I was thinking who
who was I blacklisted from like
who does he associate with that you know
what I mean like
was I blacklisted from fucking
I don't know who who knows
who knows
actually it's not true okay
because
yeah this I don't I don't I I don't know
if he's talking about streamer I don't
know what he's talking about but there's
like people in that community
uh who DM me to this day so I don't know
okay
I don't know
I I ignore everyone but like
if if it was me it just probably wasn't
successful
to be honest
but Jack who does Jackson get
blacklisted from I don't know
uh one moment
yeah I don't know who I got blacklisted
from but um
like I was thinking like were there any
collabs I was planning that like I
didn't get to do because of the
Blacklist
but there are none
so yeah
so I don't know
uh
yeah I wonder what I did to get
blacklisted too like sounds pretty
serious
sounds really serious actually it sounds
like sounds like it's a really serious
thing like oh my God I got bullied
please dude whale dust is Never Gonna
collide with me if I don't know anyway
guys I gotta go bye guys
bye guys bye guys bye guys bye guys bye
guys bye guys bye guys I gotta go I
gotta go eat dinner and shit I'm gonna
try to finish my soap stack okay I'll
see you guys bye-bye