How Infrared Helped Destroy Breadtube
2022-05-06
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all your eyes on me
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my
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ah
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look into my eyes tell me no more lies
you like what you see
do not stare at me
please cause it's my own life once i had
fun but now i want to run
i can dance with all your eyes or your
eyes on me you can dance with all your
eyes or your eyes on me
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me
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do
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strange that this feeling grows
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cause
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engineers
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is
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is
foreign
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what's up
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in a woman's heart
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all your eyes on me
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do
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i think we should make them remember
i think we should make them remember
when i first came here
when i first came here
he said bread to this bread too bad
we're here to destroy bread too
where is breath too bad
where are they at now
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i walk through bread too
i conquered bread tube i destroyed red
tube and i crushed it in my grit
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infrared has conquered
red tube officially
they're all dead streamers they're done
they have no future they're not growing
they're not in the spotlight anymore
they're turning into outright as off
nazis
dead in the goddamn water there's no
such thing as bread tube anymore
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is
we never took credit for conquering them
well we did
we're facing new enemies like that
fucking paul moron dumbass these fake
tankies and the gonzalo whites and other
fake mls but guess what bret tube is
done all that remains
is hakim
hakeem
hakeem
i want to be clear about something
red tube is dead i crushed bread tube i
almost single-handedly destroyed bread
tube now you may want to ask me you want
to say haas how did you destroy bread
too how did you do it i came onto the
scene and i proved the impossible i
proved
that it's possible to be like this and
be
an actual communist with a capital c so
all that shit they were hijacking from
us all that marxism they were pretending
to represent all that communism and shit
they were pretending to represent
i put them in their place and i showed
them hey i'm a real marxist i know what
the fuck i'm talking about and i'm angry
and aggressive about it so they all
bitched out and backed down and we don't
hear anything from them anymore
you want to know what an example of this
is guys you know that fat fuck pig pogan
you know that guy pogen
hogan
is turning into like an ml now pogen
released a fucking video just recently
where he was like actually
pat socks aren't
mls and that and he's kind of turning
based he was like stalin purged his army
in 1941 and it was because it was
infiltrated by nazis which was true and
i'm like jesus is pogen turning based
he's like actually recognizing the truth
about the stalinist purges now because
they were infiltrated by nazis but he
was trying to use that as an example of
like how we're infiltrating communism
and we're actually nazis so whatever
he's a dumbass point about us but it's
gotten him to the point where even pogen
is defending stalin now
and i consider that an achievement i
consider that a w which i'm gonna
fucking take credit for i'm gonna take
credit for that w
i mean yeah you can go ahead and attack
us but if we start making stalin
mainstream i'm cool with that keep
attacking us bitch i don't give a fuck i
care i care more about stalin than i
care about haas if haze's image has to
fall so stalin's image can rise back up
i'll gladly take that sacrifice i don't
give a fuck
stalin's purges were because of
infiltration from fucking nazis yes that
is a historical fact
it's time to clear the record
and nobody talks about i'm gonna have
grover fur on soon i actually checked
through my emails today because i was
like i should email grover fur i wonder
if i've
and i was like wait a second
i think i did
there's hair in my fucking throat
it was a big long ass strand of hair in
my fucking throat so anyway um
no i was thinking that uh pogan
we're gonna react to his video but i was
thinking um no i was talking about the
email i was thinking i wanna email
grover fur and have him on but then i
realized
um
you know what i have actually
talked to
i've actually emailed
grover ferg before
um
or he emailed me and i was like i think
i'm pretty sure so i went into my email
and i searched rover fur lo and behold
you i am not shitting you you will not
believe this rover fur reached out to me
last august and i did respond and it was
like august 25th and i think the reason
i didn't um and uh he was like yeah i'd
love to come on let's schedule something
david lame here thank you for the time
as i mumble about how capitalist realism
has defeated me in bread tube
yeah so he he he was like yeah schedule
something like yeah i'll get back to you
when i schedule something or whatever
and he was like yeah get back to me and
i didn't respond and it was like august
25th
and i think the reason i didn't and i
got swamped was because i specifically
or august late august is when i started
taking off started going on those
royales all i was i forgot about
everything i like oh my god there was so
much shit i forgot about so i'm gonna
actually respond to the email today or
tomorrow
and i'm gonna see if um
i'm gonna see if i can actually have him
on and he'll i'll see if he can forgive
me for kind of ghosting him on accident
holy fuck tereshi
the khan will rise against all odds son
gorilla son thank you
appreciate you man yeah i'm gonna get
back to um
mr fur and i want to tell you guys about
grover fur because he is sincerely an
underrated historian so grover fur is
this extremely maligned um historian who
is he's not overly he's not ideological
he's completely unbiased he presents a
detailed
um analysis of first primary sources and
facts
um to clear stalin's name because you
know all these people make shit up about
stalin timothy snyder and who's that
fucking simon c bet simon teabag ball
sack
monta pussy whatever the fuck that
montefer stalin and the court of the
reds are stalling eight thousands of
babies nah robert first said you know
what bitch
grover he went you know what bitch i'm
going to the archives i'm going to the
primary sources we're going to get down
to business and we're going to see if
you're lying and what was the verdict
that fur came to they were lying
they were all liars
totkin isn't horrible when it comes to
this but by far the best historian
about the history of the soviet union
under stalin is grover and he's super
underrated and i am going to use my
platform to promote grover fur and his
books
in the best way that i can because
i am seriously sickened by the way they
try to lie about stalin right
yeah lusudra was good too but grover
first see he he's using the empirical
method
he actually proves that that
based on even a basic anglo-saxon
scientific method these people are a
bunch of fucking liars
okay le sudro was cool but i think he
was coming more from like a a narrative
perspective more moral perspective give
me a second give me a second
um
you know there's another thing too this
is a little spicy this is a little spicy
i want
i want someone to study
the history of cambodia i want someone
to study what happened under the camera
rouge
because what can we trust what can we
live what can we really trust right i
want someone to just
study it you know i want there to be
someone who can study it in the same way
that the revisionist school of soviet
history studied the soviet union because
i don't you know i'm gonna be honest
with you guys i don't think
we know a lot about what happened with
the kimber rouge i know you guys like to
meme and shit
but i don't think it's very clear i
don't think it's very clear at all hogan
debated vosh on his pro-nato position
but it was long and really circular
thank you max
i don't think it's very clear the
kimroos were backed by the us not true
that's bullshit
it is not clear at all and i'm not
jumping to a conclusion i'm just saying
it should be studied it should genuinely
be studied i think it's pretty clear
there was a lot of horrors and excesses
that happened but to what extent did
they happen
i mean look guys i've looked into it
i've looked into it
i've looked into what happened in
cambodia and
did you know the us bombed cambodia more
than like any country ever on earth do
you know how many people the u.s killed
in cambodia that were later attributed
to the camera rouge
i don't know
i wonder
really makes you wonder
really makes you wonder but the us
i mean oh my god they really really
bombed the shit out of cambodia like
really badly right i just wanted to say
you are cringe and a fucking liar
you're flip-flopping from native ripes
then just go back
who's this dipshit who's this fucking
dipshit in my chat that's bitching and
whining
did someone ban him i can't see his
fucking comment
i can't see his comment
i can't see his comment okay his
comments gone i can't see it
somebody give me that comment i'm gonna
go look on the um
the live chat
i just wanted to say that
can you guys can you guys um find me
what that comment was
i just wanted to say that you were
cringed did did someone time him out or
something what the fuck happened a
comment's gone
just want to say you are cringing a
fucking lie you're flip-flopping from
native rights and then anti-colonial
angloidism and then go back to it is a
great example of peak tanky smokescreens
what the fuck are you talking about what
the fuck are you talking about my
position has not changed on anything
my position hasn't changed though i did
notice some weird activity
there has to there's been like some
weird um shit and i'm not a drama
streamer but i'm gonna give some
attention to the drama
and because you know this is just like a
little weird to me
so let me go ahead and do this so
ewoks
is trying to like pander to the paul
morin people now i guess i don't know
but i was sent some weird shit and this
is what i saw right
so i saw some shit
um
and
it was like yeah he's like land back is
conflated by some pat socks with utopian
and maximalist approaches mainly pushed
by walt ultralicious or neoliberal
co-opting but there is a real movement
for indigenous sovereignty that is a key
piece in undermining the anglo-american
empire
okay so far i don't really find that
that objectionable i don't really deny
that there's a real movement for
indigenous sovereignty
i don't really think i deny that i just
reject the astro turfed amazon funded
slogan land back which is a scheme to
privatize public land
so so far
um
so far i don't really find that that
objectionable right except and this is
where i was like okay why the fuck
can you talk about the k-10 forest
incident
[Laughter]
oh the the captain forest incident
that's one
that's an interesting way of uh looking
at it i don't know what i'm allowed to
say on youtube but there's like two
responses i have to the caten thing
right on the one hand
if the soviets did it
i can't even say it right
what it doesn't i mean but first of all
can you please check the bullets that
were found at the at the site of the
cathedine
events
can you check what guns
and which country manufactures the guns
that those bullets fit in
but but moreover i mean the evidence is
overwhelming about who committed that
massacre just read grover fur right
but what specifically interests me is
that even if it was committed by the
soviets
even if it was
the cathedine victims
to the extent of my knowledge were
overwhelmingly
the
ruling class the officers the like state
apparatus
leaders and the elites and the
bureaucrats and you know the the kind of
military whatever so
i'm not saying anything all death is
tragic anyway um i don't know how we got
side railed
into that
yeah like aristocrats and shit like that
i don't know how he got sidetracked into
that but um
so this paragraph isn't particular i
don't really agree i don't like this
label land back but whatever there's a
real move for into sovereignty okay sure
but then what the fuck is this
settlers the mythology of the white
streamers
wait what this is jackson this is like
one of my biggest allies
if not my biggest ally this is an attack
on jackson is an attack on me
right so what the fuck is this shit why
is he attacking jackson
huh it's almost like he's trying to
signal to a certain crowd what the fuck
did jackson do
to deserve this i mean maybe you wanted
to use my face but you couldn't because
i'm not exactly white but
this is such opportunistic fucking
bullshit
right the mythology of the white
streamers
okay you know what i'm gonna go ahead
and say it
i make fun of white people all the time
i do it all the time but it's never from
a place of malice it's always like in a
joking way and shit
and you know it always you know i i um
i do that and the reason i make fun of
white people a lot
sometimes is just because it's like
uh
it's always it's never really a critique
of a race it's more like a critique of
what i perceive to be a cultural crisis
right we all we all know that in the
west there's like a unique
rampant liberalism
that reflects in all sorts of ways lack
of family ties lack of upbringing and
stuff like that and like i guess that's
oftentimes that shit is associated with
white so i make fun of it all the time
right but it's never from a place of
malice it's not from a place of malice
right because at the end of the day
i don't hate white people
um
at the end of the day and then this is
what i want to say though is that
you know you can keep posturing like
this like a fucking dumbass
the majority of people in canada and the
united states
drum roll please drum roll please are
white it's the majority of people that
fucking live here
and it's especially the majority of
people that live in fucking canada ewoks
so what is this like anti-white
posturing even supposed to fucking mean
that's the majority of people that live
there what are you trying to accomplish
with this shit like what kind of
posturing is this shit
what kind of fucking posturing is this
the mythology of white streamers you
know what this is i'm gonna call this
bullshit out
this posturing where you're like
critiquing white streamers or whatever
that's not done from a place of like
non-white sovereignty that's done from a
place of some minorities
who
um
rely on white sugar daddy liberals
which they that which are used by those
sugar daddy liberals to like
shit on the working class that's just
the fucking truth you know
that's just the damn truth
it's always like it's always like the
mythology of the whites it's just like
when people are like can the cis males
please stop can the cis people clea that
doesn't come from a place of seriously
believing you're going to like
somehow overthrow the dominance of cis
people that doesn't come from a place of
seriously thinking you're going to
actually eliminate males
men you only make those statements and
um posture in that way from a
perspective of taking their power for
granted right
and that's that's why both the kind of
writers and
the leftists are both wrong on this
right
a lot of right-wing people are like
oh
leftists hate white people it's an
anti-white
war against white people no you guys
don't get it it's not it's not a a war
against white people because they don't
pose any serious challenge to white
people their their leaders are still
white they're still old white
wall street whatever old dudes so
they're not posing a challenge to white
people they're taking for granted the
subordination of you know um
whether indigenous or black or brown
they're taking for granted the place the
power of white people basically and
they're like okay we can make fun of you
because you're in power
and that's why they do it right that's
why
you don't see this type of bullshit
among
you know non-white people who are
serious about sovereignty they don't
spend time giving a fuck about hating
white people or whatever virtue
signaling against white people you know
that's the truth
and it's not against white people it's
against the working class by the way
it's it's because the majority of the
working class is white in america and
canada so when they're talking about
white streamers or whatever it's a way
for them to sneakily you know express
their class elitism because you notice
the white elites have no problem with
shitting on white people you go to the
met gala let's say if you go to the met
gala and just start like i hate white
people white people there's white people
that they're all gonna like oh so true i
agree with you
they're all gonna fucking amber heard is
gonna be there you're right i agree with
you
fucking who else is at the met gala
i don't even know who's there but
they're all gonna like it's gonna snuck
like
i'm woke too
so it's like the elite white people who
are awoke are like i make fun of white
people as well i'm woke and elite and
it's just a fucking form of class
warfare against the working class it's
the biggest con game there is right
and i find it pretty disappointing that
this dude is kind of
taking this direction it seems like it's
like why
what
where's this even coming from like when
when when have we said anything new
about this topic i've we've always
maintained the same position
we're not against indigenous sovereignty
if it's a serious thing we're against
fucking sloganeering
i'm against the slogan land back because
it's just an empty phrase and it's an
empty slogan
so that's why i'm against it right but
then you got these people are like
he also made a video against you
supporting samira
let's check it out
hey everybody's
this is super cringe i guess he was like
i wasn't really growing being allied to
these people so let me reach out to paul
moron and hakeem and see if um
yeah
let's see if this is better
three two one and we are recording
everybody all right so i'm gonna do a
quick video here
uh just you know referring back to mao's
piece on combat liberalism because haas
from infrared did a trash stream last
night it was not good um basically this
is so weird because he like dm'd me
this is the same dude who did let me
show you what he dm he was like
what did he fucking say he was like um
he's like glad to see you setting the
record straight on discourse into
reifying how latin americans have
proclaimed christianity bringing he
didn't he didn't like say anything bad
in dms you know
basically samira khan his um associates
i'll leave it at that retweeted this pro
what the fuck is that supposed to mean
what a weird thing to say
um
what a cringy thing to say dude you're
literally like what is this
thank you appreciate you brad will win
appreciate you gleb
british
anti-prc pygmy who is disparaging
mesoamerican
an anti-poc pick me what a stupid
fucking thing to say
pre-compact civilization
prior to the spaniards and the
portuguese and a lot of people know what
i'm referring to
yes i'll just put on screen the screen
cap of the original ian miles i love how
like unapologetically um
i love how how much of an opportunist
this guy is it's he didn't even find
what the he he posted the screenshot
that got 5000 likes and he's like the
only reason it became an event is
because it got 5 000 likes like i said
if this had two likes this ewoks dude
wouldn't even like you wouldn't have
even cared about it he's like you know
what this got 5000 likes clearly this is
worth
um smearing someone over
tom tweet which is showing the aztec
human sacrifice which is was a part of
aztec culture that happened uh
sporadically here or there but it's it's
incomparable to the apocalypse of the
colonialism brought on by the spaniards
right the the genocide indigenous people
wow he's like going into a really long
tangent
from a retweet you know not every
retweet is even an endorsement sometimes
a retweet is just like a form of
curiously being like huh interesting
or like huh i wonder what my followers
would think of this or what what would
they make of it like
unless someone's saying something in
their own words like you sound like a
dumb fuck
trying to respond to this like she she
didn't write a book denigrating the
aztecs she just retweeted some shit
which i don't see why it's a big deal or
retweet some fucking bullshit picture or
whatever
and of course the subsequent i don't
know i don't know how sensitive people
are i don't know how sensitive people
fucking are where it's like
jesus fucking christ
like y'all can make fun of uh middle
eastern people too
it's not like i'm gonna fucking get
uh
pissed off
like okay yeah go go and post a picture
like
um
carthage before the roman showed up and
show the carthaginians sacrificing
babies which just might be their
phoenicians right and then say before
the romans showed up and showed them
like eating babies you think i'm going
to get mad or something like i don't
it's just fucking stupid
and then the racialized caste system
that was enforced in that america
extreme exploitations of the peoples of
this continent a legacy that echoes into
this day
uh and yeah this this and i i would say
i would be like fine
um
i would understand you know they're like
what has what if we like
apologized for french or european
colonialism in the middle east and i'd
be like yeah that would be fucked up
except
um
you guys can correct me if i'm wrong i'm
pretty sure latin american culture is
mestizo which means mixed
which means
there was a form of syncreticism that
happened
rather than just one people dominating
another people there was a syncreticism
that happened
where
the former aztecs appropriated aspects
of the spanish and portuguese culture
so it wasn't like when the europeans
came to the middle east or africa where
they just you know it wasn't it where
they were just like it's
pure gunpoint the whole time you know
so i it's not like we had a syncreticism
with like you know
the europeans like that so i don't
really know what the fuck
i mean i i i do agree the aztecs are
unfairly
i agree they're not um
giving enough credit about i don't know
why i'm talking about this shit honestly
i don't know why i'm talking about this
shit it's so stupid it's literally so
fucking like i got in trouble for saying
the aztecs were socialist i got in
trouble for saying that the fuck am i
trying to apologize for it's so fucking
stupid
magic about oh they were savage hearts
uh sacrificers before
where did she say that spaniards came
with the okay where did she say that
logic used to justify okay where did she
say that colonization hey where did she
say that bicep european power okay where
did she say that first right so anybody
associated with an answer okay where did
she say that time perilous inherently
hey dude where did she say that can you
please tell me where she said any of
that that colonial movement i should not
be retweeting oh where did she say that
this type of oh she shouldn't be
retweeting gotcha behavior uh even if it
wasn't the original quote now i
understand people can accidentally
retweet all right let me look at ewoks's
twitter and just see if there's
shit that i condemn that he shouldn't be
retweeting so let's just go to his
twitter because you know what we're
gonna just start policing everything we
retweet now
we're just gonna like start policing
retweets and shit so let's just see
let's just start policing every retweet
um
the fuck
this is apologizing for australian
imperialism i can't believe you
retweeted this so ewoks by retweeting
this you're apologizing for australia's
involvement in the vietnam war
right does is that included in anzac day
or no
anzac day
um
only the is it only the first world war
well that's the imperialist war
no i i think you i think it was also
yeah it also is uh
it also is
served and died in all wars conflicts
and peacekeeping operations wait a
minute
ewoks is apologizing for australia's
involvement in the vietnam war because
that's covered by anzac day so that's
what ewoks is doing so ewoks i wanna i'm
gonna do a stream explaining why ewoks
um is defending um
and imperialism against vietnam because
as as someone who's one percent
vietnamese i'm really offended by it so
personally like you know vietnam
suffered great he's basically trying to
apologize for australia's intervention
into vietnam and i'm gonna write a whole
essay extrapolating ewok's reasons for
retweeting this even though he didn't
say any of it but he did retweet it so
i'm just gonna assume
that um
you know he he's apologizing for the
vietnam war and yeah i'm gonna tell luna
oya because this is really bad this is
um really racist and really bad this is
super cancelable
you ask me this is just super bad
okay
anything else
i don't know what the fuck happened like
what did i fucking do what did me or
jackson do to deserve this bullshit you
know this is just such weakness
this is such fucking weakness
super pathetic
um
yeah
super pathetic and super weak
but this is pogan's video
for anyone
so this is where pogan's gonna like
defend stalin and shit let's check it
out hey everyone
pogen here again i figured i would take
a different route with this video and
try something a little less formal and
you're reaching
dude are you stupid i'm reaching
i'm fucking reaching that's the point
that's literally the fucking point
that's literally the fucking point
dumbass
the point is to illustrate how he was
reaching you dumbass what are you
fucking talking about
hopefully a little more fun
we like to have fun here right you
thought wrong just kidding it's a red
fascism video i'm sure that by now
you've heard content creators across
leftist you terribly indistinct from
that of a realities
or just generally being awful
the two biggest examples of this that
often come up are has from the infrared
collective and jackson hinkle but there
are others who fall into this category
how is why does jackson get black he
doesn't even do anything wrong
jackson's only crime is literally being
a um
his only crime is being like white and
also uh
like a high-level white male
like in terms of his appearance taking
care of himself
like that's his that's his crime so the
only people who are accepted but if okay
if you are an ugly white guy you're fine
if you are a um
lgbt white dude you're fine if you're
like trans white you're fine if if
you're a white woman and you're like
super feminist you're fine but jackson
is literally an unapologetic
white man
and that's why he gets flack for this
shit it's the only reason there's i'm
actually the bad guy
who um
uh
hold on
how
jackson wants to raid us we're going to
get a fat raid apparently
but um
you haven't redirect privileges
oh community settings okay i'm gonna go
into my community settings
um and then redirect privileges for the
dive with jackson hinkle okay youtube
studio
community
settings
community
who can redirect to my channel the dive
with jackson
uh change you can redirect you learn how
to change
okay
they call us red brown and then turn
around and apologize for azov
thank you over yeah exactly the dive
with
who can redirect to my channel
uh
oh paste the channel url okay got it
that's what i have to do
so the dive with jackson
then
grab that
put that here
there we go perfect save
all right he's going to rate us we're
going to get a fat raid apparently okay
let's just
we should we should actually introduce
ourselves to this audience because this
is going to be a big ass raid from
jackson like really big right
super big raid
um
yeah
but anyway um what we're really talking
about here was this accusation of a red
brown alliance
is i will admit there is something very
very different about
infrared specifically compared to
everyone else
which i can see why people like okay
they're clearly not like other mls
they're not like anyone else they're
completely different in every kind of
fucking way
yeah jackson's fucking he's like bigger
than destiny now he's fucking huge i
don't even know why he still talks to me
you know
um but um
the uh
yeah the real thing we're talking about
with the so-called red brown alliance is
basically cultural you guys let me tell
you the secret of why has is so fucking
um
do you want to know why i'm so different
from other leftists no genuinely want to
know why is it because i'm secretly
inaudible is this your no i'm just more
mature than most of you i've been in
this for most of i've been in this
longer than most of you i've thought
about these things more intensely
listen it's kind of like you know how
the the dad and the family is going to
be more like
stepping outside the bounds and being
like toxic and shit that's why i'm like
the patriarch of leftism i'm the
patriarch of the left okay
and i'm saying that shit
you're based jackson's a frat boy
following money bruh
an attack against
jackson is attack against me
period
period you can't attack jackson without
attacking me
but uh
what i'm trying to say is that
i spent a really long time trying to
defend leftism i was a leftist actually
this is what i want to talk about when
it comes to bread food a lot of people
you don't know my past i'm older than
bread too i mean my idea i was an
ideological fanatic i was ideological
fanatical about leftism i was super
super you guys want to know how fucking
feminist i was
you don't know who i was guys you don't
know who the fuck i was i was a
fanatical feminist to the point
where
i denied any
essential difference between man and
woman i used to think
men and women are completely the same
the physical um differences are festive
vestige from the animal kingdom and
otherwise men and women are completely
the same
i was super super super awoke i mean no
i wasn't just woke you want to know what
it came from though it was um
it wasn't
left it wasn't bread tube it wasn't like
woke leftism or anything
it was adorno and critical theory right
so i was i was following the frankfurt
school
so my idea was genuinely that
there are no fundamental differences
um
the cartesian cogito is the privileged
site
of subjectivity
it's just the complete negation posed by
human subjectivity that defines us
everything else is incidental
um part of the animal kingdom and i was
but the reason i wasn't soy i was never
soy i was never soy it was just that i
was so extreme about it
it was almost like it turned into giga
chat because i was so fucking extreme
about it
because um
i believed in the destruction of
everything
i believed in all encompassing complete
destruction of the world and everything
i believed in complete destruction and
the ascension of humanity into a kind of
ethereal angelic subjectivity of
just
about no even worse like
and
i wasn't always a marxist leninist
either i used to have the view that
um the problem with marxism leninism to
me was that it was too um
i really sympathized with bordeaux
bordega or whatever i was like stalin
wasn't authoritarian enough he wasn't
extreme enough
i hated trotsky too but i was like super
i'm really i'm really um disappointing
you guys aren't i right because you
always want to think that i was always
this like i've always had the views that
i have and i haven't there was a time i
was an extreme extreme leftist
like very much
to the point of insanity to the point of
like mental
um illness right
but i was so principled about it
i was so principled about it i was never
sowing i was never soy because i was
principled
and i took it to its furthest horrifying
conclusion
i took it to like its most horrifying
conclusion possible
and
um
so when people want to ask coz why do
you come from the perspective you are
why is it so easy for you to like
you know signal toward the right i guess
and just you don't really care about the
slogans or labels and you always like
um joke about trump and you always joke
about shit and you don't take the
leftism seriously like a sacred cow
well the reason is because
um i literally took leftism to its
furthest most extreme possible
conclusion holy shit jackson with that
raid with that fat
raid
welcome
raiders and thank you jackson for the
raid hi jackson viewers i am
the future
leech
of jackson's channel i'm just kidding
but um
i uh
i'm haz from infrared i don't know if
you all have heard from me i don't know
if you all know me
um
i came from twitch and i got banned for
being pro russia
and um
i was covering the the conflict in a
similar way jackson was on youtube so
they banned me from twitch
and you know here i am i'm on youtube
now not really covering the russia stuff
uh beyond
bigger types of news
um
thank you so much coding jesus i'm not
really covering the russian stuff beyond
like the bigger news just because uh
you know that
it's not particularly interesting to me
thank you quoting jesus appreciate it
but if you guys want to know what what
this channel is about what i'm about i'm
a marxist leninist this channel is going
to be more ideologically oriented it's
more kind of we have more theory
oriented we have more of the ideology
kind of stuff we have it's more kind of
focused on a more broad view about
history and events and shit we don't
really focus on
um
we don't really focus on details all
that much
right but welcome guys thank you so much
you know jackson is
my biggest ally my as a streamer you
know
so um appreciate you appreciate the raid
and welcome guys
so yeah uh we're marxist we call
ourselves marxism leninism at the age of
multi-polarity in the postcode world we
try to kind of um
give a
broader type of insight
uh when it comes to understanding the
history of marxism leninism when it
comes to understanding the history of
communism so it's more kind of like the
ideological side of things
and
the the highlight of our channel is
going to be our infrared vision videos
because we are a collective infrared is
a collective
uh of about like 11 people and we
produce these videos that you know kind
of give these
they're based on broad topics about the
present about history about socialism
whatever so if you go and look at our uh
infrared vision videos you're going to
find
you know what the the main thrust of
what the channel is about
um also
we've got
a uh
another thing i do as a live stream is i
debate i'm a debater i debate a lot of
people oh wait you know what you guys
know who i am
you guys know who i am because you saw
me debate destiny
you saw me debate destiny right um yeah
i was i i was partnered up with jackson
to debate destiny
and yeah
so
yeah we basically have fun here we chill
it's a more chill vibe it's more late
night chill type of vibe you know i
don't really cover news all that
intently i don't really have a lot of
news to be covering tonight but i talk
about things like bread tube you know um
the fake synthetic leftist and that's
really what i was talking about
uh today
but
um
are you the guy who was in
drugs discord server nope i don't know
what the fuck that is i don't
i don't know what drugs i swear yeah
okay back to my origin story i'll get
back to that so anyway um
i used to be a very extreme lefty and
yes i was like
it was super super extreme right super
um
and it was based on the frankfurt school
i was a student of the frankfurt school
i liked adorno a lot
um was a big fan of adorno
and adorno if you don't know who adorno
is theodore adorno was one of the main
theorists of a school of
german
boring german um
uh
party poopers called the frankfurt
school
and it's also broadly termed and called
critical theory it's the school of
critical theory
and more or less they um
they
uh
they're basically these kind of what
should i call them except
grumpy kantians it's the school of
grumpy kantianism
where
they basically kind of have this view
that
the
project of the enlightenment right
beginning or even the modern age
beginning with descartes and cartesian
subjectivity
has somehow gone wrong
right through history and specifically
the experience of world war ii and the
holocaust has proven
that it had um
it had gone wrong somehow right
so
they wanted to preserve what they
considered the rational kernel of the
enlightenment while being able to with
withstand and weather this kind of
nightmare
that you know enlightenment rationality
was being posed in the form of adorno
was super anti-protester he called the
new left activist fascist slow
thank you max
uh adorno i'll get to that stuff right
but basically they had a view that
it was basically like um
it was it's basically the worst thing
ever
more or less like so much of my critique
of leftism comes from the fact that i
understand
the frankfurt school so well because i
was a disciple of the frankfurt school
right
and i understand
how you get from the frankfurt school to
vosh i know the direct line from
frankfurt school to wash right
and
frankfurt school has a specific view
where they privilege abstraction and
they privilege um cartesian subjectivity
and they privilege kind of um
uh enlightenment universalism
well with all the criticisms now
withstanding it's it's a type of
criticism that's in the spirit of
preserving those things
and
you know uh adorno
uh
adorno specifically um
his notion of negative dialectics
it's a pretty terrifying thing right so
with hegel with hegel's dialectic um
system
hegel kind of has you you begin with um
you know people like thesis antithesis
synthesis is basically how people
simplify it but with hegel's um
dialectic system you basically it
basically follows this like tri-part
structure of like you know you have um
an original whole host
um
sorry an original uh being
an original uh
unity of being right and then you have a
negation negativity the negation right
of being
so you have being the negation of being
and then you have the negation of the
negation
which reconciles
that negation into a new form of being a
new form of positive being right
that's my interpretation at least
well adorno was such a grumpy asshole
that he said what if hegel got it wrong
and that
the conclusion of the dialectic ends in
the negation
so what if the negation can be
privileged as the privileged um site
of
of of an ontology right
um so
code jeff alexander kojev reinterpreted
hagel in his own way right through
heidegger
adorno
reinterpreted hegel through
lucox and through the neocontin school
so kant if you don't know this it's hard
to introduce all these things to you if
you don't know this kant is known as
like the philosopher of negation within
the hegelian scheme because kant
arrives at this point of uh um
universal complete negation of all
reality in the world that leads us into
this point of like total skepticism
where we can't know anything except
the fact that we know nothing right we
can't know it it's agnosticism the only
thing we can be certain of is that we
that we're not certain of anything right
we can only have certainty in um
the the uh
tren the absolute object of the
transcendental subjectivity
we can't actually know anything in
particular anything positively in
particular so kant represents this total
complete
negation right if you don't know this
okay let me explain to you german
idealism so before kant
we have a more wholesome
experience of reality supposedly
according to philosophy where
maybe with empiricism we can actually
know things through the world we can i
can know that this shit is because i'm
sensing it somehow or whatever and then
in rationalism
um knowledge comes from reason alone and
i can just purely how do i know that
this exists well i can just
justify it through some kind of circular
reasoning or whatever
so kant comes in and says actually
you can't really be certain about
anything at all
that you don't know that there's a
connection
actually between
your
um
what's in here right this kind of
sphere of cogito and knowledge and the
outside world
you can't even know that how do i know
that this thing actually exists in the
real world objectively how do i know
it's not just a product of the
transcendental structure of the world
created by my mind right so kant kind of
creates this like skepticism of like
okay what is
real and what is not real you can't no
you can only know that the real thing
is transcendental subjectivity um
so you can sorry you can only know that
the real thing is the transcendental
object right you can only know the real
thing the only thing you can be certain
is the like things like the synthetic a
priori right and um
us the most based on informed modern
communist us for cpus is supreme leader
2036. thank you fred hell appreciate you
um you can only know for example that
you don't know like the um
a priori structures of space and time
through your intuitions you can only
know the categories of the understanding
i think there's like 12 categories of
the understanding whatever right okay
there you go that's kant negation right
then with hegel
hegel comes along and critiques con for
this and says
um you end at the negation well there's
a reconciliation of this problem and
dilemma this antinomy
that you've um you've confronted us with
the challenge of trying to overcome
somehow right
so adorno the asshole comes in
responding to um
hegel
and basically says okay we are faced
with this fundamental ontological
question whether we want to admit it or
not
i am of the view that heidegger's
ontological revolution applies
beyond heidegger himself lucox was
dealing with trying to deal with the
same thing whatever right and from that
perspective from that lucoxian
perspective
kant remains the privileged
thinker
of a um
of a of a uh
thank you stuart
was cesar right about hegel and fallout
new vegas
no
no i don't think so
um thank you rare wolf appreciate you
so more or less just trying to explain
this to you guys bear with me right more
or less
um
so
lucox the thinker he was a marxist
thinker lucox lucas was a philosopher
okay they were looking at the tens or
the twenties and he's like okay we have
this bolster of revolution happening and
we have this issue of philosophy how do
we reconcile philosophy with marxism
right let's return let's actually
interrogate
what the philosophical
meaning of marxism is based on the
experience of social democracy which was
so okay basically
marx
comes out he has this communist
manifesto whatever and he says
there's going to be a
revolution
um
both
politically and economically which leads
to the transformation from capitalism to
socialism and marx has this new
epistemology of
material historical materialism which is
basically understanding society
um
uh
in a way that includes
or at least gives some kind of primacy
to the material relations of production
the various classes that constitute
society yada yada right well in german
social democracy sorry in social
democracy in general you had this unity
between marxist theory
and a workers movement so you have these
people who've discovered this by marx
predicting that this shit was going to
happen while at the same time actively
building this movement realizing what
was going to happen so lucox comes as a
philosopher and he goes okay
there's kind of this paradox which other
people have brought up before which is
like okay are you making a prediction
about um what's going to happen
um
in terms of like marx makes all these
predictions about the future and the
proletariat what is the relationship
between knowledge and practice what is
the relationship between our knowledge
of the world
and the object of the knowledge right
um
is anyone following me here
what is the relationship between our
knowledge of the world
and
the object of that now so if i'm sitting
here as a theorist and i'm saying the
proletariat is a revolutionary class and
this revolution is going to happen how
can i justify participating
in that very process actively why would
i try and make something happen that i
already know is inevitable
so social democracy was a workers
movement that united all of these
intellectuals who had this scientific
insight into having a class analysis and
the future while at the same time
participating in the very thing okay
so you've got that down okay good
so lucox
comes along and says oh this opens some
kind of philosophical problem
and i want to justify
from a philosophical perspective how
this is
possible and
for lucox
he basically arrives at the conclusion
that
in order for this to be possible
kant's fundamental gesture of criticism
has to be privileged
onto logically
as these the um
as basically like the truth of being
itself
so cons
gesture of introducing a split in the
world which is between a world of things
that are in themselves as they actually
are and the world of appearances which
is the world of of things as they appear
to us
so kant introduces a split in the world
that i told you about where you can't
know anything about the real world
what is this in itself
so i'm looking at this shit
and my mind is constructing reality in
such a way that it's going to appear to
me in the form of this
uh thing right here and what do i call
this uh
this fucking
what is this called again it's it's a
what is it called it's a fucking um
carton yeah a carton
a carton that's what it's called
carton yeah carton
okay so what is this thing in itself
without the way in which my mind
actively is shaping the world in order
for this to appear to me as a carton
right
so kant introduces that split there's a
world of things in themselves and then
there's the world of things um
for the subject right
um
it's not for itself sorry for the
subject for us for itself and for us so
for me it appears this way in itself
what does it appear as well that's the
split that kant introduced so lucas
comes
trying to philosophically make sense of
and rigorously justify
the experience of social democracy and
he says i know how to make sense of the
the paradox in question of you know
what is
this inevitable proletarian revolution
that's going to happen
which nonetheless requires this like
movement of conscious party
intellectuals to actively be involved in
it and to realize the very thing
that
they have already decided was going to
be inevitable right so lucas comes and
he basically says
this is how you make sense of it this is
how you can understand it
now
the proletariat in itself
in itself
and the proletariat for our knowledge
right
is actually unified through the this um
party movement
so social democracy was famous for the
saying social democracy is the um unity
between um
something like theory and marxism and
the party movement
greg sorry um
it's the unity of marxism and the
workers movement something like that or
the unity of the party in the workers
movement someone tell me what what exact
i forgot exactly what what the quote was
right
um
and lucox
interprets that in the same sense of um
kant's
uh
what is it called again kant's
transcendental unity the unity of
unity of what is it called app
perception
fuck
at perception yeah
at perception
the unity of a perception yeah the unity
of app perception
same thing okay
so for kant
there has to be some fundamental unity
between the world as it actually is
and the world as we experience it we
just can't know
this particular particularity
of that unity but that is a precondition
experience to be possible okay so in the
same way
um lucox says
basically applies the same thing
as far as reinterpreting marxism in the
spirit of the experience of social
democracy
lucox comes and says
that
the proletariat
is just the class in itself
in order to be a class for itself not
just in itself which is the object of a
philosopher it has to um
acquire consciousness of
itself so the consciousness of the
proletariat
and the proletariat in itself becomes
unified in the party movement
the that movement
which maintains the basic
um
structure
of transcendental criticism
sorry of transcendence
so it's the party movement that
maintains the kantian structure of
transcendence
which is between the world of things as
they actually are and as they appear for
us
and
so for for luke but but here's the thing
with lucox this is where
it gets problematic right because okay
that sounds very good um because what
lucox is basically trying to do is like
oh we're just critiquing the um
this kind of like bourgeois metaphysics
which is pretty critical and which just
sees a world of things in themselves and
it's our task as passive subjects to
discern the nature of the world in
itself right
and lucox is critiquing that
but
here's the problem
lucox um
has to deny
the possibility for
any real knowledge of the world of
things as they actually are in
themselves
to be possible in the same way that kant
does
and
why because for luke cox
sorry for lucox
the very fact that the proletariat
it's like a um
what is it called uh
what is that infinitely self-referential
loop called it's a specific
it's an infinitely self-referential loop
it's like a mathematical
what is it fucking called again
someone someone uh
what is it fucking called someone got
this
recursion yes recursion recursion it's
like an infinite kind of recursion
because
um recursion is what i was looking for
it's an infinite kind of recursion
because
the proletariat in itself the class in
itself
contains the very consciousness of
itself
it does not have any substantive
material reality it doesn't have any
substantive material being
it itself its being is um
is uh is um
is
not determined but is reflected by the
critical structure
itself
so it's like an infinite recursion the
proletariat
so class consciousness means
consciousness of the class
that is itself conscious of itself
consciousness of the class that is
itself conscious
of itself
ah
that kind of sounds familiar to those of
you familiar with german idealism
doesn't it
doesn't it
what else what does that remind you of
exactly consciousness of the class that
is itself conscious of itself
that's the quintessential
kantian knowledge
not
a human being that is conscious
it's the kantian self-consciousness
it's the self-consciousness
of kant
the recursive self-consciousness of kant
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so the task of criticism
isn't so much about discovering the real
features of the world
as much as it is acquiring
consciousness of the very
structure that enables the possibility
for
the world to open itself to us in the
way that it does and i know i'm saying
the word open itself to us
is very strange because it sounds
heideggerian but
um
infrared meet up at michigan speedway
for the nascar race in august the crowd
lives and breathes working class much
like infrared nation
thank you for the five but no
so
you so um
continuing off of what i said
lucox
basically
is re-fashioning
kant's critical philosophy
in such a way that it becomes
ontological it becomes something about
being itself he's not going to
acknowledge that because if he
acknowledges that
he's going to um
give credence it's actually heidegger
who is inspired by lucox by the way
but he's not going to acknowledge that
but it is about being it's an
ontologization of kant
which is why
not a lot of people notice but lucox
rejected angles for the exact same
reason and frederick engels was a
hegelian angles believed we could know
things
about nature
we could understand that in nature
itself
you can discern
like the same truth of class struggle is
also the same truth of nature for angles
for angles there's no strict division
between the world
of consciousness and the world of
whatever things in and of themselves in
in and of themselves he agrees with
hagel's specific way of overcoming that
distinction
so
ingalls has a book called dialectics of
nature where
he is basically describing nature
in a dialectical way in a way that's
consistent with
the whole of um
marxist philosophy sorry i don't call it
philosophy of uh
marx's materialism
now lucox takes issue with this because
for lucox
this is a form of what kant would call
metaphysical enthusiasm basically angles
is
being too greedy about
the extent of his ability to apply
knowledge and insight to nature because
nature is just a sphere that is totally
contingent we can't know anything about
it all we can know is the um critical
structure
uh
imposed by humanity upon the world we
can have self-consciousness
about the way in which we as human
beings distort the world we just can't
know anything about the world in and of
itself including the world of nature so
we're getting to this kind of extreme
point of
the thinking of the enlightenment
where with this ontologization of the
critical um
critical gesture
everything in the world that's
meaningful
from our humanity from our culture from
our history
uh our statehood our society whatever
you want to call it the entire world of
human being meaning has to reduce itself
to this kind of um
vacuum sealed
negative
um
vacuum sealed negation of the world and
of nature and of everything
right
so
meaning reduces itself to the point of
negation like this violent point at
which human beings kind of
um
uh
create their own world through the very
structure
of
um
human sociality and human discourse so
to skip everything that happened
afterwards
with adorno horkheimer and marcusa this
basically ends with habermans abramos is
like the successor to the frankfurt
school and our mosque basically comes to
the conclusion that language represents
this kind of abstract medium through
which human beings filter the world
and that
what he calls communicative reason which
is the ability to have discursive um
is this discursive rationality between
human subjects is the site of meaning
and reality and and even being if you
will
and that's all we can really rely on we
need he's basically like a fucking
liberal
habermas is basically like a democratic
liberal right he's basically like we
let's just basically i'm going to just
sum it up and be vulgar he's like okay
guys let's just sit down and talk about
it we can't really know things about
anything but we need the ability to sit
down and mediate and talk about things
okay let's talk about ecology and see
what we can do and do something about it
sit down in a circle and talk about
things he's got i'm surprised
bread tube doesn't reference habermas
because like if there's ever a thinker
who i think would represent like
democratic ownership of the means of
production like let's all have a workers
co-op and sit down and discuss
it's habermas he would be like the
quintessential um philosopher or thinker
for that right
um okay now back we're going back in
time a little bit to adorno and
horkheimer and marcusa
um the experience of world war ii places
all of this in a new con i'm also
skipping
walter benjamin
and the reason i'm skipping walter
benjamin is because he wasn't as bad as
those guys walter benjamin was kind of
interesting he was into the kabbalah and
he was into that kind of mystic
mysticism she's just i think he's he
deserves more than just this reductive
shit that i'm doing now
but adorno
and the rest of them
basically following from
adorno was introduced to marxism through
lucox right
and adorno maintains
um
this kind of critical term blue cox
makes this ontologization
of kantian criticism
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in a way that is not strictly applied to
the question of justifying marxism but
as it applies to culture and it applies
to
society so for example
uh adorno
everyone knows that adorno hated jazz
you guys want to know why adorno hated
jazz though i mean a lot of people don't
know why um
he actually did hate jazz well i'll tell
you why he hated jax adorno was butt
hurt about jazz because for him
jazz was a form
of um experiencing
uh sorry give me a second
jazz was a type of uh
hold on
so fucking weird
it's so fucking weird hold on give me a
sec give me a sec
okay here we go
yeah jazz was this
um
specific
type of popular music
and i'm actually kind of confused about
why adorno i think i do know why he
didn't also apply this to folk music i
actually do know why he didn't apply to
bulk music
for adorno
uh
there is a distinction between high
culture and the quiche
right and i could be wrong about this i
might be a little uh foggy about
explaining this so i'm open to being
stand corrected about
how i describe adorno's hatred of jazz
but it's a little more complicated than
you'd think
um
for dorner there's a basic distinction
between high culture and quiche right
so quiche
um basically is
this kind of uh
consumption of culture low culture low
tasteless culture right where you're
just kind of consuming it without
thinking about it it's more intuitive
whatever in it it does not impose upon
you the painful
structure
uh
the painful uh kind of like
transcendental structure
of
culture society and reality it doesn't
kind of
it doesn't it doesn't direct you into
being able to critically think about
the conditions of its own possibility
basically
so that's why he calls it fascist
not don't no not funko pops i'm not
talking i think about like rap and hip
hop or folk music or something like that
so for adorno that's quiche quiche is
basically shit that we're just dancing
along to we intuitively enjoy it but
adorno is a fucking party poop and he's
sitting there so adorno is literally the
guy at the party
in the corner when everyone's dancing
and he's being like
they don't know that they're actually
participating in false consciousness and
reified forms of like he's basically
they don't know that they're actually
completely blind to the um real
transcendental structures that are
actually defining them he's basically
like um so committed to the project of
the enlightenment that
for him we enlightenment also means
um critical reflection
he now he's not an enthusiast he's not
like a stephen pinker proponent of the
enlightenment where for him
enlightenment means we're just fully
conscious of everything adorno doesn't
want us to be fully conscious of
everything as much as he wants us to be
conscious about the fact that we can't
be conscious of everything he wants us
to be conscious of the basic
um
violence of criticism that defines
reality he just wants us to know that we
shouldn't be enjoying anything
we should we shouldn't be doing that
because we just need to sit here and be
victimized by the basic violence of
uh
the transcendental structure of reality
basically
um
so for adorno it's not that he wants
everyone to be conscious of the real
reality to do something he just wants
people to be conscious of the
fundamental tragedy of the fact that
it's not possible
um
so he hated
now why did he hate jazz is it because
for him jazz was just quiche
well no not really um
adorno so for adora high culture
inspires us with the ability to
critically reflect
upon
the conditions of its own possibility
and and also by extension the world to
critically reflect upon the world
some kind of way of the truth of the
world as a whole thing right
now jazz
is specifically going to be a problem
for adorno because
someone can please um
correct me if i'm wrong but i think for
adorno
jazz was not just quiche quiche can just
be like some village folk music or some
shit like that it was like a new type of
mass industrialized quiche
where
the
material um reality of the enlightenment
and of rational enlightenment
specifically in the form of modern
industry
and commodity production general
commodity production
and this kind of total artificialization
of reality and experience
so for adorno
jazz was a product of that
and yet
horrifically jazz does not inspire us
with the
appreciation of
the extent to which we have been fully
um kind of like
colonized or subsumed or dominated
by
modern rational technological whatever
reality
so that's the specific reason
adorno has a problem with jazz it's not
so much that it's the old type of quiche
but it's like this new type of quiche
which horrifically
takes advantage of
what he considers the structure of the
enlightenment without allowing us to
critically reflect upon that very same
structure the horrific thing for adorno
is that it's artificial
it's like it's like
it's artificial it's not just like
natural village folk music it's it's an
artificial recreation of that through
modern industry and through
this um violence of modernity without
giving it kind of gaslights us right
and and there's i kind of there's
there's kind of a point there right
adorno was a composer so he hated the
lack of structure he called it
destructive because it threw out
everything in music theory outside the
basics of keeping a consistent time etc
now i'm going to ask thank you for the
time but i'm going to ask you a question
because i'm not sure if that's why he
hated it but i'm going to ask you a
question about that because
i'll i'll get to you in a second
so adorno
um
there's kind of a truth to that right we
kind of sit here and it's kind of scary
because we're thinking we we think a
great deal of things are natural we
experience them as natural and given and
organic but they're actually
horrifically the product
of
like uniquely modern rational
industry so it's like the matrix you're
experiencing reality normal whatever but
then you don't know all of the wires and
all the fucking real shit that's going
into projecting this basic experience
actually i think the matrix is the best
example to understand what i'm talking
about here when i'm talking about the
structure of criticism i'm talking about
the matrix we experience the reality as
normal natural whatever but then behind
the scenes there's all
numbers and code and wires and all this
shit that we can't see but which
nonetheless conditions the possibility
of our experience so that's what we're
talking about here it's a perfect
example just just for dumb fucks and
it's nothing wrong with being a dumb
fuck
sometimes being a dumb fuck is just
saving time right
um
so
that's that's true about how we consume
everything when you watch a movie you
don't know
i mean the extent to which we have to
intervene into nature through this
violent domineering logo-centric he
doesn't use this language but i am
modern rationality
we're not inspired to reflect
critically upon
that violence
now that's adorno's problem
okay
that's adorno's specific problem
so for adorno
emancipation
even though he was extremely pessimistic
about it
amounts to the ability to um
have some kind of cognizance
and awareness about
how much our reality can't be taken for
granted
so we take responsibility for our world
although adorno
did frame his concern primarily in the
form of like the end of any authentic
spontaneity
so that might just be my interpretation
as well which is the opposite i'm saying
conscious responsibility he's saying the
problem is that nothing is authentically
spontaneous anymore i mean everything we
do is somehow um
stamped or marked by
the structure of rational modernity
critical structure of rational modernity
nothing is just authentic
how can we have any more human
authenticity
right
that's kind of a dorno's problem
but um
okay so
uh
adorno by the way if you want to know
what music he liked and this is why i
wanted to ask that question to the super
chat guy
adorno liked schoenberg's a tonality
because of the way in which
it
upset and it freed music
from the constraints of
like the tyranny of of the tonal
structure
so is it really that his problem was
that it it was it didn't have structure
i mean i know atonal music has structure
but it doesn't it doesn't really have
melody you want to see schoenberg's
shitty music
let me just
show you how ugly this music was
i think this is an example of his
um no let me find these
okay no this was during his tonal period
let me see um
what is the one i wanted to see what is
that fucking
trying to get a good example for you
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so
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so that's the music that i know i'm not
doing it justice all the snob
fuck you bitch it's ugly music
it's ugly music it's just hideous
very unm it doesn't have melody it's
just hideous ugly music now you say you
like the ugliness because it
makes you critically reflect on the
world or whatever but it's just
extremely ugly right it's just ugly and
shitty
well that's the music that adorno liked
so adorno i think hated jazz for all the
wrong reasons
i don't think he hated it because it
lacked structure i think adorno hated it
because he thought it was giving people
a false sense of spontaneity
and a false sense of authenticity
i think that's the issue
um for him at least but he was a wrong
asshole who was trying to gatekeep human
authenticity in spontaneity
and i can go get into my really raw
critique of adorno but instead of doing
that i want to talk to you about how
this circles back to bread tube and how
i was able to like the reason leftism is
just
so predictable to me is because
i think leftism does kind of uh in the
west
western leftism specifically takes the
form of
um
ontologizing negation
negations specifically
and
how do you get from that from vaush's
support of nato and u.s imperialism it's
really simple right
um
the us is a democracy and in a democracy
we have some way of
consciously um
participating
in our
in our in our in the real world of
meaning and humanity in life because our
intuitive
actual authentic humanity can't be
trusted
that's fascism that's our bad whatever
we have to have this basic um
structure mediating the relationship
between our consciousness and the world
that is the only site of meaning right
so
it's very easy to arrive at a pro-west
you know the anti-germans the
anti-deutsche people who waved american
flags and israeli flags those were
frankfurt school adorno that's that's
they were also disciples of adorno
as well
um
i'm adorno's worst nightmare i'm the
complete opposite of that guy
but
that was my old orientation and by the
way everything shitty and cringe about
g-jek comes from adorno right
um
so you take that to its fullest
conclusion and you basically arrive at a
point in which
you have this false sense of
spontaneous raw human authenticity and
then the domineering structure of
rational modernity
and then the only thing we can do is
pessimistically in a doomer way
reflect upon how much we are fucked by
the latter
how much any human spontaneity has been
is completely erased and gone what the
implications of that are going to be
um
and and if we can find some emancipation
in that very fact some kind of new
freedom
for humanity which adorno was
pessimistic about
but
um
can you debate any actual academic
philosophers instead of streamers
um
they're not gonna be good at debating
they're not gonna they're not gonna like
they're not used to actually being
pressed you know
so that's the issue they're not used to
participating in in dialectics
that
intensely
um
okay anglican hegelian you want to
debate me because i should talk to
anglicanism once
okay
i don't i i'm gonna confess something to
you i don't i don't have a a set thing
on anglicanism okay
my whole
my vague impression of anglicanism
is that
it
isn't it artificially reproduces the
hierarchies of the catholic church
arbitrarily now i could be wrong
i just don't care i'm not i'm not gonna
attack anglicanism if you think
how does could you fit into this
that you
bet you is on um
that dude is on the other side of the
aisle so there's a civil war in academia
which is between the french and the
germans why because the germans
are going to be the comptian critical
people right
and the french are going to also take
their inspiration from germans
but the based german who is heidegger
so the french are
reflecting on heidegger uh alexander
kojev
um you know
sartre i don't like sartre but you know
he's one of them
um you know but he's kind of less real
known and then you know you have lachan
and deluz and then
um lyotard and the rest of them and um
also badu edu is not a critical asshole
but badu
does fall into the issue of he is
pre-critical
so
he's pre-critic yeah derrida is big too
uh no al tusser is um not
actually
i don't know where where would al ducer
fit in that scheme
i don't know i think al buser was just
like a catholic priest you know that's
kind of how i would see it
he was a cat not a catholic priest he's
like a catholic student
um
althusser i don't think
is
following the
the he's not following the kojev school
or he's not i don't i don't think he's
responding to heidegger but al tusera
was actually an ideologist first and
foremost he was like a
guy interested in defending marxism
so he's kind of similar with lucox and
that
in that regard right
um existentialism is a fraud fraudulent
enterprise it comes from again heidegger
so it's a specific way of um
responding to questions that heidegger
had actually introduced into the um
field of thought
uh
so yeah
but but the thing is with badou and the
rest of them those are kind of like um
those are gonna be people who are
rejecting the the kantian
or trying to otherwise resist
this kantian um
split right they those what people like
spinoza spinoza's the philosopher you
know you know how they say
france are perverts not to denigrate the
french but it's like
the french are kind of out here like you
know wanting to
think about real things real objects
of reason and actually jump to
conclusions
and you know be passionate about things
and you know
just kind of have this like perverse
experience of partial drives whatever
and then
may then you also have people like la
con
who
you know will
have like a peep show about that like oh
you want to see it you want to see it
you cannot see my okay i'm just kidding
but um no one's gonna understand these
jokes at all i'm sorry uh
but then you have the germans over here
who are just sitting and they're just
like
you cannot know anything
can only reflect
and only have reflection
so they're more interested in the
contemplative and reflective side of
things as always
and the french are interested in the
passion of
of knowledge and reason so on and so on
yeah it's all the stereotypes are
correct the germans they're colder and
they're
you know more stuck up in the french all
the stereotypes apply as far as these
different differences and schools of
thought
um
i side with the french by the way i am
french gang
as
i'm definitely more french or actually i
hate the frankfurt school in its
entirety i think habermas is an asshole
i don't like habermas
um
and i have nothing to do i don't like
kantianism i don't like neocontinism
which is may shock you because
kantbot is like one of my best friends
uh
but
he's like the exception he's the only
exception i've ever met
um i also don't like spinoza don't get
me wrong i fucking hate spinoza
but
i just agree more with
the french way of
um
i agree with the french mania right
all these french guys are maniacal in
their ambition
they're not just sitting and being like
pessimistic
down in the dumps type of you know
type of people right so anyway um
how do you get from there to breadth
though basically
it all has to do with this kind of
taking the western modernity and western
enlightenment
to such an extreme conclusion where
all of these other cultures
so for example um
let's have an adorno critique of russia
so an adorno critique of russia would be
like okay putin's the leader and
everyone experiences him as the leader
but that's only because they're
manipulated by the totalitarian
structure of russia
and the fact that there's all of these
you know they superimpose the logos of
modern rationality
where it doesn't exist but they
superimpose it there anyway which leads
to this kind of extremely
distrustful
could you explain why deborah and
elenkoff so obsessed with claiming
spinoza to they point where they claim
he's marks without a beard
hell no
but who's deborah in i don't know who
deborah
i'm so ignorant i'm so sorry
i
i'm looking him up now
uh he was a soviet philosopher
i have never read i didn't even i've
never even heard of him before
i forgive ilyenko did yankov actually
say
spinoza was marx without a beard because
that's extremely disgusting
but i i guess i'll forgive him guys the
view count is high because jackson rated
me just don't worry about it
um
that was because of um
that was just because of uh
that was just because of
sorry
i'm blanking
iliankov rehabilitates spinoza because
irian cove is also facing this issue
of the ontological question
what are the implications of marx's
materialism for being
and
idinkov's response to that is basically
to say that in order to consistently be
materialists
we have to basically adopt a notion of
the spinoza's substance
how do you reconcile the exis the fact
of thinking
and consciousness and thoughts
with a materialist ontology so and for
elienkov
um
thought consciousness and reason
and spirit are attributes of substance
of a material substance of some kind
now
this is a
metaphysical view
and not a materialist view it's a
metaphysical view because
um substance is uh is a dogmatic
concept of
of thought it it doesn't actually
have any determinate
articular reality right
so it's a complete misunderstanding of
materialism which is
um
which is uh inherent in soviet marxism
leninism actually not just in yankov
it's an inherent limitation they cannot
actually justify why what lenin did
lu so basically lucox and all of them
are trying to deal with this split
represented by the second international
between the flat
object of marxist consciousness
historical materialism the class
struggle and everything and then it's
like the structure of the party form
so soviet marxism leninism is inheriting
the same problem lucox inherited they're
all trying to like make sense of how
these two now stalin doesn't have an
issue with this he understands it into
it intuitively but when you're looking
at this from a conscious philosophical
perspective you end up with these
deviations like elienkov where you have
to justify it with spinoza so in the
encode is the mirror image of glucox
actually
lucox responds to it with kant which is
basically this
um
exaggeration of tr uh the the kind of
transcendent side of of consciousness
right in negation
whereas lucox is investing too much
at the level of imminence
and
uh not negation but um
some dogmatic reified form of positive
being in the form of substance but it's
two sides of the same coin but the
difference is i like iliankov i like
idienkov why because yankov was brave
enough to like
in a very russian way
arrive at
uh consequences of his thinking like the
highest conclusion if he really wants to
reconcile
dialectical materialism with an ontology
so for him
behind this is the conclusion of
dialectical materialism and resolving
this contradiction between material
substance and the thinking spirit which
is the highest attribute
of substance
the thinking spirit
enters a limit eventually which is also
a problem of of natural science the
existential problem imposed upon us
of
entropy
now if you don't know what this issue of
entropy is from the second law of
thermodynamics basically
there's a heat death of the universe
that awaits us eventually there will be
no more free energy
that gives rise to novelty and that
we will just cold everything will just
get cold and we'll all just freeze and
die there will be no more free energy to
be used by cis the system the closed
system that is the cosmos okay
so ilyenko also understands in the form
of the thinking spirit reaching the
highest point of its development at
which point um
as an attribute of substance
it can no longer
generate it can no longer um participate
in
creative and novel forms in the cosmos
thinking spirit will reach this
calcifying point
in which
it
um
is faced with the possibility that it
may
uh descend into the recesses of
substance into the cold dark night
the light of the thinking consciousness
will be extinguished forever
scary
so what does idienko say
and that's why i like him
idiot says
that we will reach a certain point in
the highest development of our
um
history as human beings
when we achieve communism and farther
and farther to the past at the highest
point of the development of the thinking
spirit will culminate
in a
apocalyptic collective and heroic act of
self-sacrifice
we will
engage in this act of complete
self-destruction
initiating a cosmic apoca a cosmic uh
catastrophe of some kind
um
which will basically
unleash a new threshold uh
uh for
energy for for things to
for the cosmos to for the process the
cycle to start again so we will
basically engage in like this
apocalyptic cosmic self self sacrificial
act of destroying ourselves and
destroying everything somehow
and that from that destruction from the
incandescent
vapors
resulting in that act of destruction
new worlds can be born
and therefore new thinking beings can be
born which at a certain stage in their
development will will restart the cycle
so we are going we have to restart the
cycle in order that
the thinking spirit does not descend
into the recesses the dark and cold
recesses
of substance
and it's it's it's very much ethically
rigorous and consistent i'm just not
really explaining it with all that all
that much justice but
i like i like that a lot
i just like it
i appreciate the boldness and bravery
and ambition
of that and and maybe that's actually
the secret of what i'm doing and that's
the secret of what my goal is maybe
my whole mo is that we have reached
that point
and that i'm doing everything within my
power
i'm just kidding i don't agree with
yankov
uh but not for not because i think his
conclusions are too radical um
i don't agree with his
spinozism so my project
i called it new objectivity
which sounds similar to what those um
object-oriented ontology people are like
graham harmon which i like grandma i
like him
and uh bruno latour and those guys
but for me
we must arrive at a new list
have you read carol quigley he was a 50s
georgetown historian sociologist who
argued the anglo-american establishment
moved history primarily via the banking
system and different bankers
no i'm i haven't heard of that guy i'll
check it out thank you for the 10. um
now
my project specifically is about
arriving at a new understanding of
material objectivity
that is not
spinoza's substance so i agree with the
sphenosis in the rejection of kant
but i want to it's basically a hegelian
project it's
you know a lot of people say haas has a
secret is kojeb it's all kojev haas is
just kojev
you know it's all everything from
infrared it's just kojev not really
because i like kojev
but i'm i'm in competition with kojet
because i don't agree he correctly
heidegger marx and hegel
he didn't do enough justice to it i
arrive at radically different
conclusions than koja i just appreciate
the spirit of his project i doesn't mean
i agree with his conclusions
um
uh so yeah
but yeah i'm a follower of kojov of
course but that's not
i have my own thing that's going on
um
and what is it
when i talk to you guys about the anglo
box i'm talking about
when i talk about the object of
anglo-saxon metaphysics it's also
another word for substance it's this
kind of reified and dogmatic
um form of materiality the affect of
materiality
which
i think people have
conflated for materialism when most
people think of materialism they're
thinking of
this kind of spinoza substance and i'm
insisting on the fact that material as
marx understood it was not
substance
materiality
has more in common with the word content
or essence
right so content and essence now you say
essence
because in the western tradition
um essence
is always already latent
with some appearance right what is the
essence of this water bottle
and someone will be like uh
the essence of the water bottle is
um
its
ability to uh contain water something
like that right
but essence
is something that is only sustained with
reference to what it is the essence of
so
materiality is something that can only
be
uh
sustained with reference
to what it is materially of what it is
the material what it is uh
the matter of i should say
which is some kind of ideal form or
structure or whatever you want or some
idos whatever you want
so
my
new objectivity basically means that
the material object
is only possible
if it includes
uh
not just subject but if it includes
appearance and so on and so on that
appearance
i'm teaching you the whole fucking
secret of infrared's philosophy right
now
appearance is the only
way in which we arrive at essence
that's why i'm a fucking streamer and
not sitting and just reading books and
writing shit
that's why i'm a streamer guys that's
what separates me from other academics
i'm living my own philosophy
it's literally why we started infrared
with this new notion of new objectivity
appearance is not somehow less lesser uh
or or worse
appearance is the sole way in which we
can have sense of the essence
so it's almost like saying the idea is
the only way in which we can have
um
we can make reference to the material
which means we have to fully exhaust
appearance
actually to arrive at essence we can't
just assume we already arrived at the
essence of things
and then just dismiss all appearance as
a fake spectacle that's why guy de board
is my enemy my theoretical enemy
i want everyone to take a copy of
society of the spectacle and burn that
book now what's the sin of society of
the spectacle they assume they have
dogmatically arrived at some
notion of objective reality that is
distorted by spectacle spectacle is just
spectacle i know the real reality i'm
here saying no
you only access reality through
the world of so-called spectacle and an
appearance that's the only way in which
reality is
is meaningful even
i mean reality is the reality of that
now the whole secret of my philosophy
i'm giving it to you
why do people accuse me of being a
nationalist i'm not a nationalist
i'm not a nationalist they accuse me of
being a fascist nationals is because i
have a same view when it comes to states
and nations and civilizations marxists
you say oh cause people say that
america is a country and that we live in
a democracy but the truth of the matter
is that this is a society of class
struggle between the proletariat and the
bourgeoisie and that's the truth class
warfare is the truth and i say yes but
that essential truth only makes sense
with reference to the presupposition
of um
a civilization a state a country or a
nation
you have to have the premise of form
first before you then
try to arrive at the secret of its
content
okay so i'm against anyone who tries to
dogmatically insist upon knowledge of
the true content of things
at the expense of their form
that to me is the essence of marxism
actually
i'm giving it all of it's literally all
on the table you want to know my whole
do everything i've ever said that sounds
ridiculous
is because of what i'm telling you right
now
it's because what i'm telling you right
now
it's all
a
attack on any notion of knowledge of the
true essence and content of things that
tries to cheat its way out of and bypass
the form of their appearance to me
you cannot have knowledge of content
without
the form
do you have an opinion on later
anti-russell wittgenstein and orpha
europe and
thank you random
wittgenstein i don't like him um he's a
troll and
he's nothing more uh firebend i'm not
that familiar with him but he said i've
heard some things he said
um
it's so it's not really about a pe being
a pad sock as much as it's like um
a very different way of understanding
marxism
where
for me
isn't that somewhat basic dialectical
materialism yes
yes but in the west
for philosophical reasons
this um has been lost
they know this in china if i tell people
in china this shit they'll be like duh
you know but in in the west there's a
specific philosophical language that
prevents us from understanding this okay
and i know that by the way because i've
talked to chinese people about this to
chinese marxists about this and they're
like yeah duh
right this is basic marxism i said well
in the west they they're very confused
about it they they have al tuser and
they have lucox and
adorno and whatever
then what's new about new objectivity
it's something new in the school of
western philosophy
it's been
explicit in the school of western
philosophy this issue has not been
resolved within this within western um
thinking
we live in the west you know i can't
just be a chinese marxist
um because i don't live in china
china the chinese marxists aren't really
facing this problem
american ones are
so um
so you'll understand that
uh
streaming then then that's that's why i
don't think um
i don't think that
without form there is no basis for the
context
thank you more a lot i would rather say
there's no um
without form
there is no way to know the content
is more what i would say
yeah there's the content but you just
form is literally content's way of
telling you what it is right it's not
that we have a a um
deceptive illusory spectacle that's
obfuscating the real thing no this
spectacle you see is the real thing
crying out to you and trying to
make itself known to you it is an a in a
sense attribute of it of it
right
does content without form exist no
no it doesn't there's no meaning to the
word content
that doesn't always already imply form
that's why i stream that's why i do the
streaming thing you think why do you do
this streaming shit if you're such an
intellectual because i know for a fact
when you are writing in your books and
you're you're being a smart academic
philosopher all that dumb shit you're
doing you are just reifying the various
forms of
um
phenomenal
uh
affects upon your stream of experience
from the media and from culture
and you're reifying it
you're not actually engaging with the
real forms that determine your
consciousness
and that's why i it's so like
i can make i can go to wave you know
what
academics are cucks
an academic
they're going to write papers about vash
and hassan is that because vash and
hassan are smart people worthy of
academic engagement no it's because vash
and hassan are the ones defining reality
in a new way
as far as like
why do you think i talk about vos right
but academics won't engage it on their
turf they'll always talk about vos
they'll always talk about these internet
celebrities and shit because it lives
rent-free in their mind because that's
actually what's
that's actually what's um affecting
their under their real unconscious
understanding of the world they just
reify
like a equals a right
yeah a will always be a but you're not
engaging with the real forms that
determine your consciousness you're just
reifying a in a very dogmatic um
way
an indiscriminate form of being
which doesn't actually account for
um
what really is determining your
positions and your consciousness you're
just pretending it was always already
because
of the dead letter
thank you madeline um
sorry what is that in reference to
you know
it's like a equals a yeah because it's
just a dead letter it doesn't actually
account for the real yeah i think that's
what it is the intelligible differences
uh
like for example let me let me put it
this way right
let's say
i call this this is just a container
this is just a container
they're both containers so they're the
same thing
do i experience them as the same thing
no i mean i touch this in a completely
different way it feels different but
i've reified it into form
dogmatically such that it is essentially
the same thing
uh
formally but that's just a formalist
view it is not actually the same thing
because i experience them differently
they affect me differently right
that's why um
philosophy and the into the use of the
intellect is downstream from culture
intellectuals and academic philosophers
are downstream from kim kardashian kim
kardashian affects
um their unconscious experience of
reality it affects
their understanding of what it is people
do and don't care about and
what does what is beautiful what is not
beautiful what is trendy what's not
trendy what gets attention what doesn't
get attention
and they take all of that for granted
and pretend like they're better than
everyone else i mean why do you think i
started streaming right
streaming of streaming is
the most uh
this is a heidigarian medium
our this is the most heideggerian medium
possible because streaming
participates in
the disclosure of being as a whole for
people i am changing the threshold of
what people consider possible in in the
first place
that's why my fucking haters will never
they don't they live rent free in their
head 24 7. they can't shut the fuck up
about me thoughts is just a streamer
shut up about him
yeah i'm just a streamer but
i live rent free in your head for a
reason
because there's something more true
about this spectacle and appearance than
whatever reified dogmatic forms you have
elevated to the status
of essentiality
arbitrarily i should add
and it's specifically in the form of the
attention economy right
it's specifically in that form of the
attention economy
um
like the ability to amass attention well
why do people watch haas
i'm just thinking he's a dumbass
streamer well why do people watch him
you don't know these things you don't
you're not you're no amount of
philosophy is going to give you a priori
insight
into the attention economy you have to
just
that's that's that's what's so beautiful
about the attention economy there's no
way of knowing
the social hierarchies and social status
there's no way of knowing that a priori
we are thrown into it i don't fucking
know why people give a shit about johnny
depp and amber heard i can keep bitching
about it or i can actually try and study
it and and see okay maybe there's
something here there's some unconscious
reason
why people do this
um
but you are wrong when you get to this
point where you just say i know the true
essence everyone else is wrong
no we are all thrown into this
reality specifically in the form of um
what people ascribe importance to and
attention to what they ascribe their
attention to
um
what the majority of people ascribe
their attention to
um
thank you so much
inspiration for myself and many others
you capture the hearts and minds of more
than these cowardly leftists thank you
for what you do praying gesture thank
you so much american communist
what are the things that live rent-free
in people's heads what are the things
that people give attention now social
capital is one of the most important
facts if someone's already popular
you're gonna come and see why and
there's a certain level in which social
capital is the only reason right um it's
just because others are giving an
attention
but beyond that what's the reason
that's what's really fucking
you know
tough to understand
that's why i've been so confused by my
history like why did people care about
so many of the things i said on twitter
why did people care i mean
that's always what i want to wonder i've
gone viral well because what you said is
so stupid
but that's just like why do you care
you know
stupid shit is being said all the time
so why do you care
the same thing that allowed me to become
successful as a streamer is also the
same thing
which more or less
has been a big obstacle in my ability to
um
uh understand a lot of the responses i
get
so maybe i just have to update my theory
i have to update my understanding how
this whole fucking thing works
um
i think this is the difference between
being a streamer and any other
individual
a streamer
if you're an individual you're just
sitting alone you have your own stream
of consciousness that you take for
granted and you're just sitting there
staring at the wall and you think yeah
that's it if you're a streamer
your stream of experience is all going
to be um
it's no longer going to be taken for
granted
you're no longer going to be like
experiencing reality in a neutral way
it's all going to come at you as a it's
a you know what experience is like guys
just telling you someone who started out
not being a streamer started to be one
it's kind of like um
it's kind of like riding a roller
coaster you know
it's like it's a constant stream
of experience
that's
um
somehow uh
it's a stream of experience that's
somehow like um
it's almost like this weird thing where
it's like you know the kanthian
object the absolute object
it's almost like the the absolute object
of the intuition
is like directly like apparent you're
just like experiencing it somehow
like you can actually see
i got i wonder what adorno would say
about streaming you know it's fucking
crazy it's crazy she could directly see
the very
social and discursive
um
for forms that condition the possibility
of experience it's like i'm directly
imperiling my sanity by streaming i'm
putting my sanity on the line and
literally
giving you the benefit of the doubt that
everything's gonna be fine
you know what i mean
because if to be sane you just you're
just like off stream you're just
whatever doing with your own thing
and
it takes a crazy person to be able to
stream it takes a crazy fucking person
to be able to do this
you know
because like the real things that
condition the possibility of our
subjectivity are being put on the line
what conditions your the possibility of
your subjectivity is some like for
example unconscious
relationship to the big other right like
what does society think what do people
think of me you all take these things
for granted as a condition for the
possibility of your subjectivity i'm
putting that all on the line
you know
but it's like i'm a psycho because i
don't even have any reference to society
only psychopaths can do this shit yeah
you you have to be somebody who's like i
don't care what another voice thinks of
me i directly commune with the void out
of which
the signifier is born i commune with the
real i'm a fucking wizard
um
just thinking fuck
just thinking
we are so fucked without heidegger we
are so fucked with in the west we're so
fucked holy i'm having like flashbacks
to my frankfurt school days
anyone who wants to become a cpus the
delegate needs to join within the next
month because you need to have been a
member for at least a year before the
national convention
okay we're gonna i'm gonna bring that up
every day com thank you dog
guys remind me to
constantly bring that up because we we
get a we gotta push we're gonna make up
our push this month to flood the party
we need those fucking delegates join the
cpusa
we have one month
if you want to ever become a delegate
because you have to have have been in
the party for a year and the the next
elections are gonna be next year and
that's going to make or break our entire
project here of cpusa 2036
so
um
so yeah
uh
within the next month we have to fucking
get that on the road but i'm just
thinking um
we are so fucked in the west without
heidegger we're so fucked
there's so much confusion there's so
much fucking confu holy fuck how do we
make sense of marxism in in america
i mean i take it all for granted so i'm
good
but like i remember when i was on my
journey
and
damn damn i could have become vosh
damn i could have become vosh
i could have become a bread tube type of
person
who like buys into all the propaganda
and shit
not buys into the propaganda but sorry
more specifically
privileges the modern west
over the they call everyone else
fascists because the modern west
uh
is the empire of negation
every form of positive being is false
only negativity is real
only
self-consciousness
what made you go a different route
if i ever told you one of the dreams i
had
it was a complex uh
intellectual process right that took
years
um
i think the first person to unhook me
from
the frankfurt school was battai
but before then
i was
engaging with the landian
accelerationists
and
um
i began to realize that
they used to give so much significance
to a.i and i began to understand that ai
was nothing more than
the realization of
this kantian whatever
transcendental structure of reality of
self-consciousness it's an ai communism
is a.i right
so
i had a really fucked up dream
i want to tell you about my dream
should i tell you
i'm not going to tell you
not gonna tell you because i don't want
the mk ultra feds to know about it i'm
gonna keep it to myself
but i had a dream that
disturbed me
which kind of revealed the unconscious
truth of this path i was going down
and it greatly disturbed me and that
wasn't alone that wasn't enough but
that was one of the things that
it really disturbed me it really shook
me like
i think that was when i was confronted
with a choice like
do i keep going down the path of satan
or
is there is
is there something wrong about this
anyway um
i want to talk to you on my first
experience of bread tube to close this
off but uh
you know i'm thinking about this even
though i was such a fanatical leftist
it was around 2015 or 2016
that the alt-right as a subculture
was emerging
alongside it there was this new woke
lefty subculture as well from the dsa
2016-2017
specifically 2016 i uh
was very disturbed by the alt-right for
obvious reasons
but i was equally disturbed by this um
new vaporwave left you know this it was
like bred to proto bret they loved
synthwave and 80s and just on a very
intuitive level i was like this is the
same thing as the alt-right culturally
speaking it's exactly the same as the
alt-right and it disturbs me in the same
fucking way
this is the antichrist
and that was
not zero books even more like
you know like that fucking like the the
synth wave the grid the 80s type of
thing i was like
this is the same thing and this is a
challenge
but they i saw them as the same thing
um
i've come a long way from
like these dsa people who are like
overly conscientious in the chapel and
they're kind of like it was the same
thing as the alt-right it was the same
fucking thing
same shit you know majority all right
came from silicon valley
they didn't come from
the rural workers they came from uh they
were coders
number one source of the alt-right
coders
so i always had
even when i was in that
you know critical theory
phrase
did you give examples uh just facebook
memes and shit i don't know
specifically came out of the dsa
but also i'm gonna be real it was also
the lgbt stuff too that was taking
leading the way there was like this
weird um
overlap between lgbt synthwave ideology
which was like super woke and pink
haired or whatever
and the transgender obsession that took
over the left around 2016
and the alt-right i saw them as the same
thing and i wasn't even anti-trans i
just saw them as the same thing
they were they disturbed me in the same
way
but i i have the language to call it
what it what it was now and it's there
were as always these were the azov
azovites the azlog battalion has
anarchists and neo-nazis it's the same
fucking thing same type of people
and same class
the azovite which is a specific symptom
of the self-destruction of the modern
west
i want to talk to you guys for four more
hours
um
i want to talk to you guys for four more
hours
and
i'm looking at we have 600 viewers now
and i'm like damn
i'm thinking this is a lot but it's like
this is what i used to have on twitch
all the time
kind of sad you know
we used to be playing gta rp and i used
to be
covering shit and um
damn
but uh
that's okay we'll get there
we'll get back
but uh
anyway guys tomorrow i am gonna be
visiting family
again
saturdays i usually take saturdays off
it's like the new mo the new rule
um
i'm going to be visiting family not
going to be streaming
but
this was a nice stream
i hope some of you guys learned
something from it
and you know
yeah
i'll see you guys bye
see you sunday