Russia is Not Imperialist [Debating Leftists]

uh

your way too impatient

waiting in my stream chat you are

complaining often

plain and often you're complaining

always you all always be

jam wine

you never even like the stream how can

you beat your wine

bitch and wine

you don't

know the crime

yeah what up everybody

oh give me a sec

all right y'all i can't believe i was

silent for like 10 minutes

what do you think thank you orville

thank you over over

thank you okay

i'm gonna make a quick comment

um mostly all's comments are pretty

positive but there's like one or two

comments i see sometimes

where it's just these people who just

bitch

and it's like i'm not on twitch anymore

and that's it just shocks me so when i'm

on twitch

and i see the slightest hint of dissent

i will literally make an example of you

as a human sacrifice

to the entire audience okay but

apparently people on youtube they're

just like these drifters that come by

and they just they just vent their their

whining and what are you doing here you

know do you not realize this is a cult

why do you think there's dissent here

why do you think there's room

for

opinions you don't have a fucking

opinion here okay

i always see these people bitching

they're like

hi

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excuse me where where does this

opinionated shit come from where does

that come from

where does this whole opinion thing come

from can anyone tell me because

you know youtube i don't know why but

people are just they're less cult

they're less brainwashable on youtube i

can't really like

establish the cult here it's just people

are kind of want to be individuals

they're kind of like drifters they're

like

hey you know even even the a lot of the

positive people they're like

you're like yeah infrared i support you

man but i also have disagreements and i

also think you know you gotta it's like

where does this opinion shit come from

okay

i miss the twitch days where everyone

just spam gorillas and sons and i just

brainwashed everyone into my cult

but uh

i don't know

i have never heard of that i've never

heard of that shit

uh sunnis and shias were allied from

what i know

during that war for the most part but

you know you gotta understand lebanese

civil war everybody's fighting everybody

okay they're all attacking each other

they're all killing each other

families against families tribes against

tribes it's just going all out okay

you know even cousins are fighting each

other okay so

you gotta understand

donors are not working with tts what do

you mean

talking about stream alerts

or you're talking about street because

that's you know you specify what you

mean specify what you mean

no tts oh

it's because i have the desktop volume

muted the reason i haven't muted this is

i was playing music

before the stream started i was chilling

listening to music while you guys were

waiting and suffering but for the stream

to start i was just chilling listening

to music i was like dancing and stuff

you know i'm chilling oh they can wait

they can wait i'm just gonna sit here

and dance they can wait the audience can

wait it's okay

so yeah that's why i had the desktop

muted um

and you know i used to be able to do

that on twitch but youtube doesn't let

me do that

so you know i gotta have some pause time

to just get prepped i'm just kidding i

literally the minute i was able to i

started streaming okay i was not just

dilly dallying

singing around okay

now anyway

i'm gonna talk about my day today my day

was that

i slept

i did sleep i had a

i had a really weird dream journey but

the dreams i had

last night felt like premonitions

that will actually happen like i had a

dream that i met some i met one of my

twitter trolls and they like kissed my

ass in person they were like oh haas um

i talk all this shit about you on

twitter but i i'm a really am i actually

i think you're kind of cool and i agree

with you on some things has like i had a

dream that it was one of those i'm not

going to tell you who it is but it'd be

funny if you know who it was

and

i kept like pressing them

and i kept like thinking in my head like

do i just beat the shit out of this

person

or do i keep fucking with them and like

keep scaring them like i kept pressing

them i was like oh really really and

like uh i kept like being like oh you're

an ugly fat bitch aren't you oh yeah i'm

an ugly fat bitch

and it was a guy it was some dude

no it was not a girl it was not a girl

it was a dude

but um

yeah it was one of those things

and then i also yeah i had a lot of

weird dreams a lot of weird dreams that

i forgot

but i slept right that's cool then in

other news

if the majority of citizens of the

mexican state of monterey borders texas

wanted to be annexed by america would

you support their aspirations

no

thank you wj good morning revolution

good morning revolution no

if people in monterrey decided that they

wanted to be a next buy america

i would support the mexican

military and national guard going into

monterey

and committing

uh i'm just kidding all right i'm just

kidding that's a joke but

i would support the mexican military

crushing the separatism i would support

an iron fist

utter crushing of that separatism okay i

would support

i would support a level of tyranny and

and fucking brutality worse than what

that mexican emperor did to the texans

okay

so i would have nuclear weapons i mean

you know any i everything's on the table

okay

but hi what about crania and donbassy i

know that was the basis of your question

they're not comparable they're not

comparable at all okay people don't just

arbitrarily decide to join another state

because they want to or they feel like

it

you know if it's going to be based on

some shit like that it's probably a

color revolution that's you know being

funded and exported by

ngos probably as privileged stratum of

the population that wants to you know

steal the land of the pueblos the people

as a whole of mexico

it's not the same thing thank you

tristan

appreciate you so no those things are

not comparable in any capacity

whatsoever

not comparable

um in other news

in other news um

i was outside all day today i did not

get a lot of work done

uh i worked out went to the gym and i

was outside

jimmy the ray 2024 is he actually gonna

run people's party was tweeting about it

jimmy george wanted to i'll support him

if he does

i'll spawn if he does um

i don't know if he he i don't think he's

officially announced it yet so when he

does i'll make a stream about it i'll

talk about it

anyway um

yeah i mean the desantis grip is ongoing

and it looks like it's happening right

it's pretty much gonna happen it's all

but guaranteed uh that it's gonna happen

but yeah i spent all day today um

outside

and

there was something that happened today

so there was this car

that was driving super fast and i was

crossing the street

and i'm pretty sure they were not going

to stop at the stop sign they knew light

of the twin laps thoughts on

mexican-american political doctrine of

reckonquista a return of the american

southwest to mexico either politically

or demographically

uh

i think i believe in economic

integration special economic zones maybe

special administrative zones things like

that

you know there's ways to go about this

there's ways to go about this but yeah

maybe who knows

in the future maybe we'll they'll just

get it back

uh we'll see right

but i mean i'm not in principle against

it

anyway what i'm trying to say is that

i was walking across the street and

there was this car

it was like a fucking expensive car too

is this some some suv

it was like a porsche or something it's

going super fast

and i was about to cross the street and

there's a stop sign there so i'm

thinking okay well they'll stop at the

stop sign once it became clear they're

not stopping at the stop sign

i was like oh shit i stopped

and uh i think i gave him like a dirty

look or something i don't know just

instinctually i was like what the fuck

are you doing so they did stop it turns

out they were turning

and then

they they had he had the window rolled

down and he had his camera

and he's like oh hey it's dan bilzerian

some dude with his friends

and

i didn't do any i didn't say anything i

just looked at him and i was like

and i just kept walking

thank you r appreciate it because it's

like is that an insult i didn't i don't

i don't know if that's disrespectful

right it's not really disrespectful

so i like i stopped and looked for a

second just like think about it this was

disrespectful like should i do something

i was like

okay

you know but is that disrespectful i

don't know right

saying i'm dan bilzerian i mean

i don't know that's not really

disrespectful that's like a

you know

i don't know

that those are situations that kind of

confuse me sometimes right

kind of cuz you know it is kind of

disrespectful to yell some shit out your

window should the usad nazify the uk

after canada

um

no

probably not unless they attack us

but i'm gonna do something okay i'm

gonna do something

i'm gonna do something

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all right

all right

all right

anyway

um

today's stream

ladies and gentlemen i don't have

anything else to talk about

uh i did want to do i wanted to get some

work done today and i even thought about

skipping today's stream

um to just write right to get my

writings done but i'm not gonna do that

and the reason i'm not gonna do that is

because

i'm gonna have to get a haircut sometime

and i don't know when that is i have to

schedule it ahead of time so i might be

tomorrow probably not

did the armenian genocide happen

okay these are settings did not update

all right

thank you for the two

thank you wj in 2036 people will stop

dan bilzerian in the street and shout yo

it's us

true thank you wj yeah what i did is i

uh i raised the alert dono to three

instead of two the reason i did that is

because

the spamming is just it's just not fair

it's not fair that someone spends like

five dollars

to get a donation in

and you know i don't know i just feel

like it's not fair it interrupts the

stream

and people were kind of complaining

about it

so i feel like it should be um more but

i'll answer it since it went through

uh i don't know i haven't studied any of

them yet i haven't studied any of that

history

i

think it did happen right because that's

how armenians remember it it was clearly

a huge

calamity

they experienced as a people but i mean

you know i've

it's it's a weird i feel like that's a

twenty dollar question i don't i don't

really feel like it's a two dollar

question you know is that is it really

worth two dollars to derail my entire

stream to talk about that i mean come on

i don't know i feel like it's not i feel

like it's a 20 question okay

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anyway um

and it's so controversial as well you

know it's so controversial

but yeah actually yeah sp considering

the turkish online community that's a 50

question okay

i'll always say this i like armenians

and turks okay but i have to be fair i

have more armenian friends than turkish

friends way more armenian friends

um

but i like both okay i like both

uh i'm you know i'm not against turks

but

i am against turkish nationalism

i'm against turkish nationalism because

it's cringey it's cringy i don't believe

in

a turkic

pan-turkicism i don't believe in that

shit that's stupid okay i think

azerbaijan should go to a safavid

empire revived

right

but uh yeah

that's what i think

yeah i i the ottoman pill is too

big to swallow okay

yeah i don't like chemicalism i don't

like that shit right it was cool that he

fought the british so that was cool but

i don't like this secular nationalist

road

of i don't like turkic arab nationalism

i don't like any type of middle eastern

nationalism to be honest i think they're

all kurdish nationalism armenian and

nationalism they're all bad right i

don't like

balkan nationalism is cancer middle

eastern nationalisms are cancer let's

just admit that let's admit

that middle eastern and balkan

nationalisms are cancer okay

because it's all these itty-bitty little

states and peoples

who are

super nationalistic

over what over like a fucking a country

the size of fucking

you know what i mean

over what

over what

these tiny little ass countries

they're like chihuahuas

you know

like it ain't that deep bro

you your your country's the size of a

football field an actor ezra miller

grooming native american girl do you

think harvey weinstein was a symptom of

a disease still present in hollywood you

know what i'm not answering that shit

but thank you for the five

yeah of course okay yeah the answer your

latter question yes

ezra miller i don't know shit about that

guy okay i've heard that's a guy it's a

crazy guy in hawaii who's running around

doing crazy shit

and yeah okay

but we got these um crazy ass

small ass countries in the middle east

and the balkans that are just super

nationalistic okay

y'all gotta chill

don't gotta chill

all right

yeah ethiopian nationalism is good

because

it's uh it's breaking up that the tribal

nationalisms within ethiopia you know

like it's one big ass

afro-asiatic kingdom so that's based

but

lebanese nationalism i mean come on who

the fuck is gonna be nationalist for

lebanon what a stupid idea what a stupid

thing right

lebanese nationalism a fake country that

belongs to syria

look all i gotta say

oh

y'all don't wanna know what i gotta say

like for example

i'm thinking

a special military operation by syria

would not be the worst thing in the

world

did i just say that did i just say that

oops oopsies

oopsies

did i just say that lebanon i'm i'm a

lebanese citizen they're gonna take away

my citizenship i better shut up

they're gonna take away my citizenship

no joke they're gonna take that shit

away okay

if lebanon takes my citizenship for

saying that shit syria please give me

some citizenship

give me some citizenship syria

okay

but

it is a it is a french country okay it's

a french country

it's a french colony

french artificial creation

all right

see i'm a big thinker i don't think in

terms of lebanon and palestine and these

little countries i think in terms of

the revival of the fucking mamluk empire

okay

that's what i think about i think about

reviving the true

ottoman state i think about finishing

what tamer lane started

a big ass

middle eastern muslim empire a fucking

big ass state the size of russia and

china a big ass superpower

that's what i think i don't think about

this small shit

right i think of a

big ass fucking middle eastern empire

one big ass

and

we gotta make some we have to make it an

outsider the sultan so nobody gets

nationalistically buttfurt

so i thought about it

and i'm thinking

we should just have a pakistan we should

make the uh

the sultan a pakistani guy

because

no that'll piss off the the off guns all

right the afghans will get mad about

that fuck

how about an indonesian dude indonesia

won't be a part of the empire but we'll

just have one indonesian guy iran

developing nuclear arms is imminent

thoughts

no just no thanks for the two but no

yeah yeah

i don't know how that shit is still

going through

listen this is what's gotta happen okay

we need a middle eastern

empire

and we'll have a hereditary dynasty from

if from uh

indonesia

the indonesian

will

because it's not gonna no one will get

mad because they're so far away

indonesians that it's not going to

offend anybody who's going to get mad

about that nobody's going to perceive it

as a slight against them so we'll get an

indonesian to be the sultan and an

indonesian family to be the sultan

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true thank you for the five

five european dollars

um

you know what is streamlabs just not

giving a fuck

about me right now is true stream labs

not care

about my needs

as a as a uh fucking streamer is it's

just like they don't give a fuck

i think i have to do this

i just have to reset all right

anyway

it's been 41 minutes and i haven't

talked about the stream's topic yet all

right the topic today is going to be

about this so-called allegation of we're

gonna do that at twitter space actually

now that i remember we're gonna have to

do this in a twitter space because it's

gonna be a debate that i'm gonna hold

right i'm gonna hold this as a debate

but um

so the latest cope by prolet cult and

others is that

russia is an imperialist country

apparently that dumbass sultanius

has responded should i should i quit

it's like a one minute video should i

just respond to what

zoltanius the dumbass said

just really quick let's just do it

himself let's just do it

thoughts on mossad ops that target iran

leadership

based

thank you uh mayor mayonnaise appreciate

you brother

thank you

no i'm not going to respond to it

it's it's already done redacted

thank you gener who's redacted

who's redacted appreciate that 10 jim

who is redacted

good morning revolution

thank you maximilian

good morning revolution

good morning revolution

good morning revolution

good morning revolution

all right

let's react to this really quick

really quick all right we're not gonna

take time we're not gonna take a lot of

time doing this okay we're gonna quickly

do the twitter space

imminently but this is only two minutes

so it himself has written in eurasia i'm

showing you this book on this stream

that this neo neo-eurasianism is quote

akin to traditionalism or the third

position end quote he didn't read the

book

he didn't read the fucking book watch

and what he means by third way isn't

dishonest as fuck because my point about

how he didn't read the book

was here

at this part of the chapter not this one

most conservative german conservative

revolution which means he's not talking

about franco freida and the third way

thinkers he's talking about the vague

german conservative revolution which i

also draw from

but here's the problem right

here he's talking about

the manner by which it was a russian

form of the third way so he's saying

it's a russian form of the third way

because

it shares the same philosophical

german and conservative revolution so

that doesn't mean

that they he means it in the same sense

as you of like those fascist doctrine

third position guys

the extent to which he's associating the

early eurasianism with third way is the

german conservative revolution

so here

he identifies the third position

obviously with nationalism fast from

socialism right

the so-called third way ideology so this

is like a stupid

understanding of the language being used

here here he talks about the extent of

the early eurasianis affiliation with

third way

being the german conservative revolution

here he also says

that there's other third way ideolo uh

people in the third way ideology who are

fascist national socialists but whether

or not

that defined the early eurasianism that

he was talking about earlier that he he

doesn't say that right but anyway this

was not my point my dunking point was

not the fact that dugan

okay let me let me just type this and

guys go ahead and just like my comments

just so everyone sees it

this is the most dishonest shit

video in the world lmao

you

you make it seem like i accuse you of

not reading the book because of this

point about third way

when the point is

which you didn't include

that dugan explicitly

disassociates neo-eurasianism

with third way he does this

in the next page of the

screen

of the

pdf

that i was showing on screen and i

showed that

this was the reason you didn't read the

book according to me

okay

all right we're done we're done with

that we're not going to do anything more

okay

we're done with that

we're done with it we're done with it

okay all the fucking butt hurt bitch-ass

people who left the stream

um i'm gonna talk about imperialism

because he spent tunes hanging on i'm

just gonna leave the stream you know

what never come back if you left the

stream because of that never come back

literally never come back you're banned

forever i don't ever want to see you

here ever again matter of fact

unsubscribe if you just left because of

that unsubscribe you're like banned from

here forever okay

bitch

anyway

anyway

um

like this is this the thing about

youtube that's why i don't know if i get

unbanned from twitch which will never

happen i i don't know i might do a

stream to twitch and i don't know man

this is the youtube people

the number one problem with youtube

is the fucking the type of

audience

they just they're so fucking

uh adhd you know it's like damn

all right

but you know i think it's a good

trade-off because this is why the

streams are not going to be as long

right

streams are not as long because

people just have this fucking mentality

where they're just like

i'm not blaming them per se it's like

it's the platform i guess right it's not

really their fault it's the type of

platform this is right and

whatever

yeah they're more nomadic but they're

also drifters right

they're not like cult members of an army

but uh anyway

which is the gen central

yeah because the cult shit is degen too

in a way right

but the reason i like it more is because

uh

i'm more used to it

also i like it more because of its

multimedia it's versatility it's like

y'all are on twitter y'all are

everywhere at once and it's kind of the

platform independence aspect i like a

lot

you know it's that's

that's why actually as a matter of fact

one last announcement before i get into

the imperialism shit

um

i think i'm gonna start trying to

see about transitioning over to uh

the patreon

sorry transitioning over to the igg chat

um i'll have the igg chat be the only

chat that i look at the only problem

with that is super chats so i have to

find a way to get around the super chat

problem

thanks at all dear fewer having declared

that persians turks is honorary aryan

and fantasizing

just because of your name or not i'm not

dealing with that shit okay

i'm not dealing with that shit

so i'm not even going to read what you

said you'll grow the fuck up

we're on youtube now you think there's

no rules you just do whatever you want

it's not true right anyway

um

igg chat

i'll have it be on igg

and then um

using igg chat

i'll basically

create like a stream alerts api but i

don't know if i want to do that right

i don't know if i want to do that

because it kind of limits exposure to

outsiders and i think i should only do

that at like 1k viewers

but 1k average viewers we're moving to

igg chat definitely right

and i want to kind of get to 1k

by the beginning of the fall i think

that's a goal i want to set for myself i

want 1k average viewers

by the end beginning of the fall

so we'll see if we can i can accomplish

that we'll see right

um it's it's going to be harder than you

think by the way

so that's my goal

why are you neutral on cultural issues

instead of being a very right-wing

culture warrior

am i really neutral on cultural issues

i'm pretty solidly against the biswell

on pretty much everything

but the reason i'm not like the

quartering if that's what you're asking

is because i see how these fucking

people

really get into the culture shit and

then they end up fucking supporting

desantis

and they end up just

having they end up supporting the

corporate fucking republican candidate

just because

they have the ben shapiro profile

picture asking why did the women

you know yeah i explained that shit

yesterday

okay

why not appeal to normal people nobody

who's not in need uses discourse twitch

or other djm platforms because this

fucking ideology is not normal communism

is not normal by nature

that's why

i'm coming from a very abnormal place

okay

that's what separates me from jackson

is

jackson is normal in his uh starting

point i am not normal in my fucking

starting point okay

i'm starting from a place of communist

ideology

and i want to be as normal as possible

but i know that i'm not going to just

immediately talk to the masses it's not

my goal

guys i'm just too smart for everyone

that's just the truth wanna know why

i don't know why i'm just too smart for

everyone

thank you

for three all right thanks for your

snide comment

let me let me explain to you why

um i'm smarter than everyone that you

know right

and i'm smarter than your brain your

tiny little mind your tiny little brain

you are in a mental weakling okay

why don't you just go to the workers huh

i'm gonna talk about that

okay because

the workers access to information is

mediated okay it's mediated

by trusted sources institutions and

normies normal people who are covering

who are non-ideological partisans

non-partisan non-ideological primarily

right even alex jones

yes kyle jones what is your ideology

he's going to say i'm a normal

conservative

american so the reason that appeals to

the american working class is because

the institution that interpolates the

american working class is the american

state the historical american state and

it's all of its traditions

now i agree with that i agree with that

specific layer of

consciousness right

but i'm not just that i'm also i

represent a specific point of difference

not opposition but just a specific let's

call it instead of difference let's call

it detail i must more specific detail

which is communism okay i'm a communist

so since i'm also a communist

um

i cannot just direct so people ask me

like why don't you just ditch the

communism label

so you'll just speak to mass audiences

just like alex jones

and

i don't want to do that because i do

believe in the lenin's vanguard theory

kind of thing you know what that means i

believe in an elite of the elite

that i do want to reach out to and

cultivate

who are themselves going to have all of

the best ways to reach the masses so i

don't believe in one individual

reaching the masses okay i believe in

one individual like myself

interface sorry one individual like

myself

reaching out to would be elite partisans

okay

then these would be elite partisans will

do work in the communist party reach out

to the party and then the party will

establish a connection to the working

masses

unlike stalin you know what you know how

stalin was stalin was not some like

authoritarian guy who was just like it's

my pure will

no stalin worked with collectives he

worked with layers of layers of layers

of organization thank you bodega

got done with my first cpusa meeting it

went well and the people were cool but

it's going to be a hell of a tightrope

the leader for now thinks right-wing

fascism is the most pressing issue

rolling ice face thank you bodega that's

interesting

that's very interesting

so

again

there's layers to this

what makes or breaks it

how do i explain like my shia muslim

taqiyya

metaphysics to you guys it's like i you

guys find it hard to understand that

there can be both distinctions and

layers without being closed doors holy

fuck okay without being closed doors

okay

so what that basically means

is that

there's a layer of distinction

but there's a pipeline there's still a

working pipeline

such that there's an active working

relationship between the masses

and the elite vanguard

and then and for like i believe in a

hierarchy of layers i don't believe in

one i'm not gonna be the leader of the

working class i'm not

okay and if i am

that's going to be after and it'll be a

complete accident or coincidence after

the long process of establishing

organization so just to be clear

infrared's goal is not

to become the fucking leader of the

american working class

infrared's goal is to establish a form

of hegemony within

the party

the communist party

it's about the organization our

information is about organization our

information is not to whom it may be you

know in this sense we're not strictly

populous we are also proletarian

uh partisans not because we're

individually part of the proletarian

class but because

we believe in the prolet the unique

significance of difference within the

people right

so it's just it's it's we are marxist

leninists we're not just blanket

populists we're just going to appeal to

everybody we're going to appeal to the

elite of the elite

those elite of the elite people are then

themselves

going to gain hegemony within the

organization of the communist party and

with that organization

you're going to be able to establish the

that merger between the party and the

working class

right

so okay to be clear first there's the

media infrared right after media there's

the organization the communist party

then after the communist party there's

the merger the merger between

the communist party and the working

masses and how they establish that

relation between the communist party and

the working masses is through a popular

front that is populist in general

the way communists lead the popular

front is not by

you know you just have to have such a

dialectical mind to understand this

right it's about establishing a specific

class struggle

within the populist

popular front so there's a one popular

front right then there's a

non-antagonistic clash struggle within

the popular front

where the the communist party seeks to

wrestle and gain hegemony okay

and once it gains hegemony within that

popular front there you will have a

broad people's revolution against the

status quo so again layers of layers of

layers of layers it's not like one

direct relation oh

i'm gonna just go speak to the workers

excuse me sir excuse me hey do you know

about the fines um do you know about the

theories of marxism excuse me sir have

you heard about the the teachings of mao

zedong talk excuse me sir no we don't do

that that's not how we're fucking going

about this okay

uh that's stupid just because

you think about an eye doesn't just

because you have an idea in your head

doesn't mean that idea should completely

just be thrown to the masses with no

filters and no mediation and no

contemplation you're not saying that

because the masses are too stupid to

understand it

but because

your ideas don't have the relevance you

think they do right

you can say oh i want this and this no

you have to be a materialist you have to

have a realist and materialist

understanding of politics right

it's just pretty complicated shit but

you know

it's pretty much tequila

all right

now i'm going to start the twitter space

and we're going to talk about russia's

imperialism supposed imperialism

so

we got the latest con game we've got the

latest con game

of the western left is to start saying

that according to lenin's theory of

imperialism

russia's imperialist according to

lenin's theory of imperialism

russia is imperialist now get this okay

get this

i shit you not in paul moron's video

he lists five characteristics if i

remember correctly

um that define russia as imperialist and

he says imperialism can be defined by

five characteristics on paul moran

imperialism can be defined by the

presence of five characteristics

now before i talk about how fucking

stupid that way of qualifying

imperialism is i just want to show you

the source of where paul moron got that

from and it is literally the wikipedia

article

on the theories of imperialism and then

you go to lenin and then wikipedia

summarizes it with five

five aspects

i shit you not this is where paul moron

gets it from

i shit you not paul moron's source

in his video where he says there are

five ways in which we can define

imperialism

if i remember correctly right he gets it

straight from the wikipedia article that

is trying to summarize

one of the chapters in lenin's work

imperialism

and this fucking idiot paul moron

he goes one by one in through each

attribute and through each thing and he

says well it's the presence of this that

checks the box it's the presence of this

that checks the box so first of all i

want to explain to you why at priority

this is a stupid way of trying to define

imperialism so

you can watch our video voss knows

nothing about social to understand what

lenin and marx had to say about

definitions but needless to say

things like capitalism and imperialism

are not abstract systems they are

historically grounded systems

with

um

lineages like actual lineages it's a

real definite system it's not an

abstract system that pops up like

mushrooms everywhere from every corner

in the world indigenously and

independently no

like people i need people to understand

the geopolitical reality of the

evolution of capitalism capitalism as we

know it geopolitically

the same capitalist institutions

of industrial england which which is

where this shit started world capitalism

as we know it today i mean those were

the same ones that ruled today pretty

much they just evolved into new forms

so there's like a direct lineage here

right it's not like you have these

alternative centers of global capitalism

that emerged no it's one

capitalism so my theory that i want to

emphasize is that imperialism is not an

abstract system it's a determinant

system bounded up with definite

institutions a definite capitalist class

a definite history of states and a

definite evolution of a definite

economic system so once we get that part

out of the way

we cannot begin whatsoever from this

idea that imperialism can be defined by

a set of qualities

and all we have to do is check the boxes

to call a state imperialist or determine

the motivations for what it does as

imperialist that is just a priori and

undialectical approach it's a

metaphysical approach okay imperialism

is a definite living system so the

question of whether russia is going to

be imperialist or not is going to be a

question of what relation did russia

actually establish to the system of

global imperialism after the fall of the

soviet union that's the type of question

you're going to have to ask you're not

going to ask oh let me look at russia's

economy are there banks are there

monopolies uh yeah no that's not going

to be any kind it's not anything close

to a marxist analysis

of anything to to be clear like not just

of imperialism but that in general of

anything whether it's capitalism or

socialism

when you base these off of definitions

you're proceeding from a metaphysical

basis okay

so

i've actually made a video about this

it's called a marxist understanding of

the war in ukraine

and i'm going to summarize russia's

economic system in the following way

right and we're going to begin here and

we're going to debate from this to be

clear right i'm going to we're going to

talk about more but i'm going to debate

about it with people right starting with

this haiduk guy who's requested

uh actually he's not he's a gorilla sun

guy so he's not going to be here today

so it's going to be isa

then i'm going to be debating mother so

first delay clear i'll tell you what

russia's system is okay

russia's system

uh

russia's economic system basically

we're gonna call it a type of

sovereign syncretic economy right

now

what do i mean by that so after the fall

of the soviet union in the beginning of

the era of privatizations

one of the reasons why

people refer to an oligarchic class

both within russia

but in addition also within ukraine

right

is because in contrast to the eastern

european countries they did not open

their

national monopolies to foreign

competition ergo

they didn't allow foreign industries to

dominate their economy they privatized

their economy yes but the bulk of their

economy remained either russian or

ukrainian or something else right

so

this is a uh a pretty significant

difference with the other

ex-socialist countries which is that the

privatizations

remained in the hands

of some kind of indigenous

class of rentier monopolists right

now you're going to hear the term rent

your monopolist you're going to be oh

it's imperialism immediately right

but imperialism is also a definite

system of growth and accumulation not

just some system of property

and acquisitions okay

so

what characterized the oligarchy

oligarchic class of both russia and

ukraine for the past decades has pretty

much been one of just

stagnation right just maintenance of

their status quo

as far as the accumulation of profits is

concerned

this oligarchy class has basically used

these state

previously owned state industries as a

kind of bedrock with which to use as

securities or leverages in order to

engage in other foreign financial

adventures and investments okay

so this oligarchy class in other words

was participating in the global

imperialist economy

but as far as the national premises of

their wealth are concerned

that was not an imperialist economic

system so the economic system that

exists within russia

cannot be anything called russian

imperialism

okay the reason it's not russian

imperialism again

is because while it's a monopoly sure

um it's nothing close to

a monopoly that defines its form of

growth or its form of accumulation

in terms of the acquisition

of either territories or resources or

foreign markets okay which is going to

be a really significant defining feature

of imperialism but i also want to add

and this is something that the

revisionists who call themselves purists

overlook the prolet cult retards and

others

they

overlook the fact that when lenin wrote

empty work imperialism high stage

the whole point of that work was not to

talk about you know oh there's this new

oppression or something the bulk of the

thrust of his reasoning behind writing

that book

was he was trying to make the case that

the end of the capitalist motor

production was imminent

and we are on the precipice of a

transformation and a transition into a

socialist mode of production

now whether you think lenin was correct

or wrong in his prediction

the qualitative change in global

capitalism that happens around after

1929 and which consolidates after the

second world war was a qualitative leap

into a new form okay of an economy now

i've argued that this is not other than

the socialist mode of production

uh handicapped and yeah nonetheless

super structurally

uh

ruled by the vestiges of the former

ruling class which is still the ruling

class but it's using this socialist

motor production to fatten its own

pockets and sustain the institutions of

capitalism like the rockefellers et

cetera et cetera i've made that argument

before you can disagree with that i'm

open to disagreement but we do have to

accept that there has been a qualitative

change out of imperialism the highest

stage

after

lenin

you know people like it's fashionable to

quote people today like nakrumah right

nakrumah also made additions to lenin's

theory but even nukrumah's theory of neo

imperialism was centering around

the role

of developmentalism as a means of

neocolonialism a fake developmentalism

which places countries uh unto the death

of foreign creditors

but already we're outside of or beyond

lenin's imperialism because the whole

premise of the foreign credit in the

first place is the post-war bretton

woods economy which is based on

developmentalism it's based on

developing the economies of countries

around the world and that will be able

to absorb shocks

uh

that happen

in

one of the various centers or polls of

the global capitalist economy so like if

there's a if there's some kind of

recession that happens in the united

states instead of the entire global

economy

going to shit

uh there's going to be all these

different centers and po pulls of the

global capitals economy that will be

able to absorb the shocks to the global

economy okay

so already we're having this very

strange global economic system that is

not primarily based

on you know eating uh the redivision of

the world in order to accumulate you

know um

in order to offset the falling rate of

profit

through the sale of commodities and

through the capturing of new markets

competition for markets and uh for cheap

labor

uh yada yada resources land and so on

and so on no that's no the world wars

kind of

uh

didn't so much end all of that as much

as it

led to a qualitatively new stage which

is the bretton woods system which is

under american unipolarity and this

system is primarily based

in development it's based on the

development of economies so it's

literally based on

politics the government

using and these new deals social

engineers and planners

using their political power

in order to artificially create

these economic systems right

from the ground up that will absorb

systemic crisis around the world okay so

that's a completely different thing

now

then you might ask okay then where does

how does imperialism evolve where where

is the imperialism

you know because we obviously there's

still imperialism right well the

imperialism primarily evolves into what

we call american unipolarity which is

the ultimate monopoly of all that

monopoly primarily being

a currency monopoly the monopoly in the

us dollar as the world's foremost

reserve currency

the imperialist monopoly

described by lenin which is a monopoly

that's based on cartels and it's even a

financial monopoly that's based on banks

all this more or less culminates into

the monopoly of the us dollar and the

monopoly moreover

of

anglo-saxon financial institutions and

banks

and then finally even on top of this the

specific monopoly

of the petro dollar after 73 the the

monopoly of that specific relation

between

banks

and resources like oil right the

leveraging of oil as a form of this kind

of economic security with which banks

use to derive credit lend credit etc etc

as long as the profits in oil continue

to be in the green

um the rest of the con economy seems to

be okay right

so this is a fundamentally a

qualitatively new system and just the

one that's the imperialist one that

lenin was describing so that much has to

be

made clear

um

that much has to be totally emphasized

okay

so

once we get that out of the way we have

to ask the question

what relation did the post-soviet russia

half to this global economic system

and the relation was one primarily

defined

by um

the stagnation

through privatization of the russian

economy

uh

and the usage of these soviet industries

and the soviet economy the socialist

soviet economy as the security with

which to let derive and leverage other

investments and other kind of you know

um

oligarchic financial adventures and so

on and so on participating in the global

capitalist economy now all of that

changes however

with the nationalization

of gasprong by putin

this finally establishes russia as a

definite

um counter

imperialist force or counter unipolar

force

because russia now establishes its own

sovereign relationship to the price of

oil and the price of gas effectively

undermining that petrodollar arrangement

and then the sovereignty of the u.s is

the world's foremost reserve currency

now if you want to

claim that russia's imperialist you're

going to have to do the following things

you're going to have to demonstrate to

us how it is that russia's economy

represents a new genesis of global

capitalism a new form of capitalist

globality

two you're going to have to establish

that the primary mechanism with which

the russian state seeks to achieve

economic growth

ergo the private russian industries

uh way in which they're going to be able

to realize profits is going to be

through the territorial division of the

world

okay so you're gonna first have to

establish those two things here's my

arguments against both of those

my argument one is that russia's

geopolitical

resistance

to the west uh to nato and to american

hegemony

has come at the expense of the

oligarchic class that exists within

russia

the oligarchs as the communist party of

the russian federation has pointed out

were against the special military

operation in ukraine

millionaires today are fleeing russia in

droves russia's ruling class in general

the people that have gotten rich over

the past decades

are the foremost fifth column that

exists within russia right now

and then i would argue that the current

war in ukraine

as well as russia's ascendancy

represents the fertile soil

for the restoration of a socialist

system and by socialist i mean in the

sense of china as a socialist system a

definite alternative to global

capitalism so russia is building an

alternative to global capitalism

now in order to establish russia as

imperialist you're going to try to have

to make the argument

that russia is just another imperialist

power including america

i mean even if we were still living in

the era of imperialism that lenin was

that would not be true

russia does not have the same

relationship to the global financial

oligarchy that for example even the axis

powers did in world war one where they

were all attached to one system

creditors

who were behind germany's industrial

development in japan and industrial

development and you know

turkeys the very limited industrial

development and australia these are all

the same people and it's the same

institutions okay

it's not like these are independent

formations of the capitalist system it's

one global capitalist system okay

now

the first thing i'm going to establish

is that

in terms of the relationship

between russia and this global economic

system is concerned

the more putin

represents a geopolitical revenge ism

whether in georgia or ukraine the more

you have this kind of russian patriotic

sentiment and fervor

and this sovereign independence of

russia the more that has actually come

at the expense of the oligarchic class

within russia and the russian ruling

class in general

so what kind of system and so it clearly

speaks to the fact

that russia's

complete isolation from the global

capitalist market which is what's going

on right now and by global we're of

course talking about the global

capitalist market led by

um

led by american unipolarity because that

is the only global capitalist market to

speak of

um that speaks to the possibility

of the creation of an entirely new

system

right and

to be it's full disclaimer i don't think

it's going to be any old system it's

going to be socialism

so russia's special military operation

creates the foundation for russian

socialism

socialism with russian characteristics

in other words similar to the chinese

um

in no way can you say this is some kind

of independent form of capitalist

accumulation no

it's not even that it's specifically

a complete

new beginning as far as what

shape russia's economic system is going

to take second of all

the idea that russia is primarily

fueling or planning on fueling its

growth through the acquisition or

territorial redivision of the world is

completely false

you a cursory glance at

just the what's going on within the

debate within the russian states is

concerned reveals that everyone's an

agreement about the fact that the key

for russia's growth and this

is a marked departure from the type of

economy that it had in the 90s

uh which was focused more on foreign

markets but russia's growth is actually

coming from

federal-led projects i think there's a

total of 69 in total that are that were

planned between 2018 and 2024

it's pretty similar to china's model of

growth the use of federal-led projects

for the building of infrastructure and

the building of big big public works

in order to drive and fuel economic

growth so that's not based on

imperialism or foreign imperialism

every single one of russia's foreign

interventions have come at the expense

of both

russia's oligarchy class as well as

russia's economy

so russia's intervention into georgia

didn't have some effect of offsetting

the falling rate of profit the

absorption of crimea did not do this and

certainly i mean what's going on right

now there's no chance that that's going

to happen so no this is not about

offsetting the falling rate of profit

through war

this is a geopolitical

this is a movie what the fuck this movie

but movie bob guy quote tweeted me what

does he want

i am so tired

dude why does this guy fucking

he always bothers his fucking movie bob

guy who the fuck is that guy who is that

guy right

but anyway

it has nothing to do

with uh with with uh the following rate

of profit it has nothing to do with

profits in general actually this is

something russia's doing that hurts its

profits okay

so

here's my most scandalous take of all

okay

russia's

military actions are not not only are

they not imperialists

they're socialists

because as lenin pointed out

lenin made this clear by the way and you

guys have to actually read lenin because

a lot of you motherfuckers are not

reading lenin

lenin believed

that while it was possible for national

liberation to be accomplished within

capitalism

he didn't believe that ultimately it

would be possible

for

sovereignty

to be on to be economic sovereignty to

be uh

achieved under capitalism so what lenin

was saying was that

yeah it's possible that we're going to

have all these countries become

independent under capitalism

but what's going to happen is that

foreign capital from the european core

is going to come

and basically buy out and you know bribe

the politicians and the state

and that's not something that can be

dealt with from a purely democratic

perspective that requires some kind of

socialism right

some kind of seizure of the economy by

the state

in order to establish economic

sovereignty

that's what lenin said

lenin did not believe

thank you emirio appreciate you lenin

did not actually believe that an

independent genesis of capitalism was

possible

by these various bourgeois democratic

movements that were struggling against

imperialism lenin didn't believe that

for example

the irish bourgeois democratic struggle

happening in ireland could possibly lead

to a unique irish form of imperialism

for lenin imperialism was a definite

system

that had a center and it had a core and

that core were these financial

institutions within britain within

england right and then from outside of

those you it diffuses down to germany

and elsewhere but there's a core there's

a definite system it's not some abstract

principle or some abstract thing that is

capable of independently reproducing

itself elsewhere because according to

lenin not even capitalism is capable of

independently reproducing itself

that tendency for a new capitalist class

to attempt to arrive when lenin said

capitalism is always being reproduced

always and by every minute every day and

so on in the countryside that's an

aspiration

but it never comes into fruition

without the political struggle to

wrestle control of the state right

when lenin is saying capitalism is being

reproduced in the country every minute

every second yadda yadda he's speaking

to this as the internal

matter of national security within the

soviet state

not because it's going to transform the

soviet economy from within and just get

rid of the

project of building socialism but that

it's going to give rise to forms of

power that will overthrow the soviet

state

and which would inevitably subordinate

russia to the system of global

capitalist imperialism

rather than creating an independent

capitalist russian state okay

so again

uh the theory of multi-polarity is not

only a theory of

an elaboration of the struggle for

national liberation beyond the framework

of the nation-state it is

to just give you uh um a spoiler alert

the era of multi-polarity is about

the triumphant victory of socialism the

socialist mode of production polarity is

almost indistinguishable from a

socialistic form

of economic

power

and the reason why it's socialistic in

nature is because a poll a polarity

uh differs from imperialism and

imperialist monopoly in the strict sense

that it represents a form of

developmentalism represent a

developmental center

that other relations should other

countries enter into a relationship with

as a matter of dependency

in order to develop and modernize their

economies

and it's also more than that

polarity is also about this a specific

form of um

sovereignty in the u in the in terms of

currency

and the significance of currency but i

digress about all of that but polarity

is about establishing a sovereign poll

for the development of your economy

um and the development of

economies dependent on your economy or

economies that enter into relationships

to your economy to offset

their specific

developmental

unevenness

that differs from imperialist monopoly

which is just about profit imperialist

monopoly is about profit now american

unit polarity formed

because of profit because of the need to

sustain profits yes

no doubt about that

but

the alternate alternative polarities

that are forming

and i would probably say right now

there's one main alternative pole which

is china

is not about profit

it is primarily about development

development has surpassed profit as the

reason behind

the economy's

growth

so profits are no longer in command in a

country like china

including by the way

in the terms of how it defines its

relate its economic relationships to

other countries development is

the ability to sustain china's model of

development

is behind the belt and road initiative

it is not to offset falling rates of

profit

okay zachary

is gonna debate so now that i've uh

made all of that clear we're gonna have

debates

go ahead zach

i don't have shit to say i accidentally

clicked that button but has man you're

the fucking dude all right

so that's not going to be a debate

opponent

uh do we have any debate opponents

do we have any debate opponents that

want to

challenge the idea that russia is not

imperialist

because russia is actually not

imperialist ladies and gentlemen

ladies and gentlemen russia is not

imperialist it is

nat

it is

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does anyone want to challenge the idea

that russia is not

as a matter of fact

imperialist does anyone have the

audacity the willingness

to channel okay hi doug you okay this

better be a debate go ahead

all right so uh

you know that job

i'm just saying

who

was the only

the only leader who supported paul pot

and what does this have to do with

anything

i'm just saying i'm just saying

i'm

all right

all right so again

russia is not imperialist the for the

special military operation in ukraine

has nothing to do with imperialism in no

way does this bolster the profits

of the existing private industries

within russia nor does it even bolster

the profits of russia's national

nationalized industry

actually its profits have been bolstered

but not because of the intervention

russia doesn't have any there's no

resources in ukraine that russia plans

on gobbling up this special military

operation does not have

a cause in the need to drive up profits

go ahead

hi can you hear me properly yeah yeah

i have a question it's kind of off topic

but i've been wondering about like your

opinion on it is that okay

how do you feel about like hezbollah

cause i've been reading about it like

semi like profit

don't kick me don't kick me chill chill

okay i'm just

i'm genuinely curious like i'm dead ass

like i just want to know how you feel

about it

uh

i i don't have the privilege of being

able to uh you have to understand i'm a

lebanese shia my parents are literally

from lebanon

so it's like i'm being watched okay so i

i don't you know that's fair that's fair

that's weird they're they're on you know

the terror list according to the us

government so i

that is something you're on the

terrorists with richard met hurston them

because i heard that they locking niggas

up

yeah i uh

i you know you have to understand people

from my background we um that's just not

something we talk about publicly

um

they're not fair enough i can respect

that all right i'm going back to

yeah

but uh i guess this guy wants to um

huh

you're lebanese

yeah

okay that's fun that's it that's all i

have to say

okay

so okay but guys to be clear i'm not

saying i'm being watched by hezbollah

i'm being saying watch we're being

watched by

you know what i mean like

you're not we don't really have freedom

of speech in this country when it comes

to that

issue right

just freely express i mean y'all can

express your opinion freely and i i

encourage it use that privilege i guess

you know but you know we we can't

because

like we're from there you know

we're literally from there

and that means the government is going

to be like okay so

uh that like

i'm not gonna say no more but like y'all

gotta understand like

that's a little too close you know what

i mean it's a little too close

um

but uh

yeah i mean

uh yeah

yeah i'm not saying anything more right

i'm just gonna i'm just saying that's

that's uh

that's not something

that's something i let others talk about

you know

i let non-lebanese

non-shia people talk about that shit

right

or i let people who like if you've been

in america for like

three generations you're probably good

right you probably can say whatever you

want but not me haha okay anyway

um

ryan

what's ryan got to say

hey if i was correct you said russia was

socialist

uh i said russia

it's it's not necessarily that it's

socialist but that

it's the the operation

will give way to the building of an

independent russian form of socialism

it's gonna it's gonna be able to

basically

it's gonna create the foundation for

russian socialism just because it's

coming at the expense of russia's

attachment to the international

uh you know system of capitalism

oh okay

um since like no leftist is really

coming on here to debate you on uh

the that russia is not imperialist can i

give you an argument that leftists uh

bring to me to argue that russia is

imperialist is that okay yeah

okay so one of the most common arguments

they tell me is that they tell me this

look up the uh definition of imperialism

and a definition on google says a policy

of extending a country's power and

influence through diplomacy or military

force then they tell me well ryan that's

what russia is doing to crimea that's

what russia is doing that don't matter

so how is russia not imperialist

what what is your response to that i

don't know so the people i'm responding

to are using a more technical sense of

the word

created by lenin as far as that one is

concerned i mean by that definition i

mean the soviet union and china and like

even probably cuba

is imperialist i mean like cuba trying

to get guantanamo back would be it's

stupid right every country has to use

diplomacy to expand

its i mean

you can't really look at these things

from definitions you got to look at them

in terms of tracing the history right

and that's what the argument i've been

trying to make is that imperialism as a

system has a definite history we're not

just talking about some abstract system

with a few features you can check some

boxes off we're talking about the the

lineage

of the evolution of like an actual

definite

and when i say system even that is a

little too generous

i'm talking about the same goddamn

families the same dynastic families of

bankers and capitalists and monopolists

and the same institutions primarily

right the institutions i mean it's the

same motherfuckers people think oh the

rockefellers that's the thing of the

past no it's not those motherfuckers are

still

pretty much uh you know

having a great time

so like that's what that's more what i

mean it's this persistence of the

institutions

the capitalist institutions and the

monopolists institutions right

the same companies the same monopolies

in general the same people and like

we're talking about pretty much the same

thing going on right

so you know in that sense the global

imperialist system it's an evolution

from industrial english capitalism which

used its excesses and its surpluses to

finance the german kind and the japanese

kind and basically that culminates in

the brentwood system

which is the american

global-led system which is gonna

it's gonna be a form of developmentalism

so you'd use pretty much the principle

of the development

of the destroyed economies after world

war ii

tried to apply that to the whole world

except

it also did that under the veneer of

underdevelopment and the in putting

other countries in debt

to these development based bank loans

right

so in contrast so let me tell you the

difference between that and imperialism

right

in the this neo colonialism the

imperialist system you're not dealing

with sovereign states primarily you're

just taking you're redividing the

territories and the colonies

in order to just you know take markets

and take all the whatever

in this system

you've got sovereign states that have

already achieved their formal democratic

national liberation that are becoming

indebted to these you know world bank

and the imf and yada yada

um

under the pretext of developmentalist

based loans now these

developmentalist-based loans are

actually a source

of um

they're a source of revenues

for international financial capitalists

primarily ones that are

actually not even just primarily almost

exclusively

the chain and the food pyramid

has anglo-saxon finance capital at the

top even above you know the germans and

the french and all the rest so there's a

pyramid to this thing right

and that's a definite system that's not

just

some abstract

idea it's a real thing right

people try to make arguments all

russia's imperialist because according

to lenin's definition oh russia has

monopolies

um

that's a stupid and metaphysical way of

understanding imperialism right

what are those monopolies doing what is

their relationship to the global economy

what is their relationship to the

process of accumulation how do they

actually generate

revenue what are profits the driving

force

of what they're doing or is there a

deeper driving force right is there some

other type of goal driving so it's like

it's

it's that type of thing right

so

when you're defining a system you're

defining a country don't just look at

whether there's a superficial

resemblance look at the rationale behind

it

like for example china right people say

oh china's capitalist because there's

money and there's profits okay what is

the rationale behind those things that's

driving those things and then you see at

the top of the food chain the rationale

is development the rationale is a

state-created goal

uh and the rationale is you know some

kind of um

people-based

policy right it's not which is basically

which is basically putting things to a

social end and not profit for just

prophet's own sake

yeah yeah exactly yeah prophets aren't

in command some kind of

you know now it's being called the

chinese dream it's the realization of a

way of life

and a standard of living right that's

the that's what's in command

thank you for the answer how's uh have a

good night

yeah no problem

so we are witnessing

something similar going on

when it comes to russia today

okay

let's add

area

go ahead baby

oh hello yeah yeah i

think

like this is something that's always on

my mind

because

russia like the military operation any

country

like from an outside third perspective

would say that

yes this is like imperialism like there

is rule-based order all that bullshit

but

the fact remains

the us and the hegemon

has imposed

the

rules of the game right the rules of the

game is

you're either

a vassal state or you're a

leader right

and

in this regard

russia is playing the role of a

pole in a multi-polar

world that we're living in

well that's being created

and

in that regard i would like

israel for example like i don't know if

i'm allowed to talk about this yeah you

are the american

yeah

well

in lebanon

well

israel is

taking gas from a disputed territory

right now

and so

well

there are calls like is this imperialism

right

because technically it is

like uh

there we have ongoing negotiations and

they're like go set aside this is our

place right in the case of the

palestinians

it's the same issue

it's their land go fuck yourself

now when russia plays by the same rules

they're like stop

this isn't allowed here

right

just like their own hud app

on wall street right

just like every time if you beat them at

their own game they just

switch the game right

and

yeah i just wanted to see that the whole

discussion about imperialism in the

context of russia defending its own

rights

when the hegemon is obviously the u.s

i think it has unlike

i mean

the phrasing of the question in its and

of itself

wants you to admit that

any

state that wants to oppose the us

should be

a vassal state like russia should just

okay the nato just come to our borders

like that's the like the question is

already eritor at some point right and

yeah that that just like my sense on the

whole topic because like

uh it just

like the like

when someone says like the imperialist

russia

like you know yeah shit for brains like

instantly like come on

yeah i mean israel is one of those

countries where

it's this totally artificial creation

you know by the ruling class they just

decided to make up their own state

and create it in uh in palestine

and then

they don't care about any of the

realities so they act in this aggressive

way just taken land and stealing

territory because it reveals the truth

of american global unipolarity and its

real attitude to the sovereignty of

states

which is basically that you know

if they just like with the wars in iraq

and all that kind of shit i mean israel

is a state that just embodies

the uh destruction

that is being brought by american the

american unipolar imperialist system

towards states and toward countries they

don't give a fuck right if they're just

going to take your shit because

you know some contrived reasoning and

some some because they want to create

some artificial problems let's do it

right they don't have any regard for

anyone's sovereignty they don't care

about any of that

that's different from russia

when you know russia in ukraine i mean

that's historically that's russian land

those are russian speakers being

oppressed by nazis

in the east i mean those are russian

people right

and

you know that it's

it's like it's like they're opposite

situations you know but one is bad

supposedly russia is bad for doing what

it's doing but israel is allowed to do

what it wants to do

because what i mean everybody they just

look the other way and pretend this is

what this is what this is how the

unipolar imperialist system

treats israel right

israel is always israel can just always

change the status quo whatever it wants

israel is the homeland and then israel

is a sovereign state and then when

israel decides to grab up some land the

borders of the homeland change and the

world pretends nothing happened it's

always been the same thing

nothing's happened it's a new status quo

and this process started with the first

settlements

it's continued to expand

and it's gotten more and more aggressive

and you know it's it's not based on um

nobody sees that as an act of aggression

no one sees that as an act of

crossing a red line or crossing a

territory everybody just sees that

they make it seem like

because the border

is crossing the palestinian people

that means the palestinian people are

the aggressors

because the border yes then

it's like they're they're they invaded

israel because israel's borders keeps

crossing theirs

yeah i would just like to add on

like uh

in

relation um

so

in the 90s after the fall of the soviet

union the greatest tragedy of the

late 20th and even the 21st century

and

the leader of the pla

i think i'm abbreviating it right in

english and uh

it's hard raven i think

was it

the president of is

israel i think at that time

whoever it was

the president of israel at that time

they sat down and there's like famous

speech where uh

yasser arafat says like you know we're

close we're like uh

we had the same

father right

and

i mean

everything like even lapman right like

even the political system in lebanon

everyone was going

towards uh

tatbiat towards uh

having a peace deal a peace treaty with

israel

but eventually

i mean they killed yesterday

they killed the sacrament

that's it

the plans changed

even though everything

was under

the capitalist hegemony of the us israel

the allies

yeah so yeah

like uh like they just changed the game

even if you like even if you

like sorry for the expression you know

like

lick their hole

behind

from top to bottom they'll still fuck

you up if inconvenience is done by one

bit and that's just the

effect of being a vessel state like

we're getting fucked for that like

30 years

and

going down the line

because

we're a vassal state

right and that's what should have been

in the 90s

and

just because like ever since putin told

them to

fuck off

during like early 2000s

like it's just like

you know from that point even putin said

like he wanted to go into the nato he

wanted to integrate russia stopped its

factories the soviet factories they

stopped them in order to integrate into

the globalist economy

and they fucked me over

so that's that's why you know i respect

putin so much because there comes a

point you just gotta tell these people

fuck you you gotta draw that line fuck

them and their rules fuck them and their

whole thing you know i

mean they they'll keep biting and biting

and biting and taking and taking and

taking and then you you put up

the slightest

resistance to that and then you know

they'll squash you like a bug

they'll make you out to be the aggressor

so we need to everybody needs a new

beginning we need a new completely new

beginning

starting from scratch

uh that begins with saying you know fuck

you we're doing our own shit fuck your

so-called rules-based international

order you know

uh like uh just as a final thing i just

wanted to because i i

went off topic a bit about russia's

imperialist i just wanted to say

something about ukraine which isn't

being talked about much

uh in my opinion one of the biggest

stakes that russia did there are

mistakes the first mistake

is that in 2014 this what's happening

right now i could argue whether russia

was able to do what it's doing the

military operation right now but maybe

if they

pressured yunukovic to stay in kharkiv

and make an opposition right there right

then things wouldn't have reached where

they are right now

and the second thing

is

that russia

gave

practically very cheap

uh resources to ukraine like as

and they knew that they're gonna be

stolen they funded a lot of oligarchs

that are working against russia in hopes

that

those

pigs would actually like we're feeding

you so you'll give something in return

which

you know with the oligarchs having their

banks bank accounts in the west like

i think that was a huge tactical mistake

but everything else i think russia you

know like they say

uh don't poke the bear right they're

asleep they like to sleep

and i think they finally woke up and

hopefully

they

push things through

like that's yeah pretty much all right

well yeah thank you for coming on

yeah thank you

yeah bye-bye

all right really quick i'm gonna just go

through these super chats that i've been

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we're gonna get g

ch on here

go ahead and speak your piece

um

what year was the show of japan

uh i mean

basically pre uh uh

you know u.s vassal state cree um

uh

you can think of it as pre douglas

macarthur basically uh manchuko uh

all that was shown oh yeah yeah yeah

it's very clearly imperialist

yeah i mean i i think so too and i'm by

no means uh you know uh ij partisan or

anything but but it it i i've only

recently delved into some of this uh

historiography but but it it it is

interesting that you know um more

sympathetic historians to

uh the showa era point out that japan

was the first east asian power that that

figured out how to combine basically

east asian cultural valleys with west

industrial technology as a sort of uh

explicitly you know anti-colonial

anti-imperial

uh uh kind of kind of project uh uh this

sort of code that wasn't the beginning

right but then uh

they still never had a base in the the

actual people right

they never had that hinterland

they didn't even have an internal one so

they had to go to

east asia to kind of get one get a

hinterlands

so yeah i mean that's that's right

that's right but but

their industrialization

was basically top down they got loans

from the west they had a elite educated

class

that trained in the west and from the

top down

they industrialized japan and that had

to be paid off somehow right but that's

i think i don't think that's that um

i think uh in order for it to be an

independent model of development

you've got to modernize from top to

bottom it's got to be through creating a

new form of primitive accumulation

within your

country uh in order to derive the basis

of profit

i wouldn't call profit but just surplus

right surpluses you could use

for industrial production

japan didn't do that japan basically

just got loans

from other countries yeah but

yeah i i guess i'm thinking more along

the lines of

of uh you know the the russian

relationship with with ukraine and with

uh former warsaw pact territories and

something i i realized it's not one to

one but um you know japan's japanese

imperialism in in that era did have an

explicitly sort of

developmentalist um perspective right

the whole point of the conquest of

manchuka was not just

for cheap uh labor but also

uh to industrialize uh the country and

as a sort of way to also an inroad as it

were to even industrialize china uh and

to to sort of balance against russian

expansion uh in northern china but also

against um

the western colonial powers more

generally

um

you know japan

it's it's a weird it's a weird

historical case because you do have

these um contemporary observers these

these marxists even like uh w ep du bois

for instance in the us who

saw some potential in uh in in the sort

of japanese imperial project as a sort

of um

a counterbalance against uh the the the

west which he just viewed as you know

despicable in their their uh african

colonialism projects and so forth but um

yeah i don't know yeah and there's a lot

of people talking about manchuko as like

a special case um

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i yeah i've heard people talk about that

but

to me it seems primarily was motivated

on um

you know just in general the ways in

which world war ii was different from

world war one should probably be studied

a little more

um it does kind of seem like germany was

trying germany and japan and the others

they were trying to like make

a forerunner to the american unipolar

system in a way right

um

germany i mean that's what the german

new order was about right and the u.s

kind of

assimilated a lot of that and i'm sure

they probably did the same with japan's

idea for a cold east i think that is

what they wanted to do after the war

that's what macarthur and the rest

wanted to do they basically wanted to

continue

that japanese project

to use china as a hinterlands for

japanese manufacturing

china has a market to absorb all of that

and then mao you know cut those plans

short you know it's funny that people

think chiang kai-shek was some kind of

nationalist and in reality he would have

cut china to a

resurgent japan

um

because that's that was the yeah i mean

i that was the plan for the brentwood

system the plan was

to revive japanese industry and

use china and the rest of asia as pretty

much a hinterlands

to absorb japanese goods right

i i think i think that was the macarthur

project but but i i do think

you know the it obviously didn't

materially pan out but but i do think

the japanese had had us at least if you

believe their documents from from this

era right um

for instance it's been documented that

um even even though the japanese they

wanted you know a form of um

developmentalist economics suzerainty

over over china or something like that

that they really didn't see

their cultures as being incompatible for

instance they didn't really want to

erase chinese culture at all they

thought that

um

you know through tech transfer through

what they learned from the

japanese

the japanese

were selective right they they

highlighted the aspects of chinese

culture that were more most compatible

with the colonial system

but they were totally hostile to the

aspects of china's history and culture

that could pose a threat to that so i'll

give you an example of this the japanese

had a derogatory word for the chinese

uh in regards to their relationship i

forgot what it was to the manchu dynasty

right

and yeah yeah yeah

yeah and also the mongols right it's

it's because of china's

um this creation of a super state by

these nomadic peoples the mongols and

then you know later the manchus or

they're not exactly nomadic but

china's you know a country with this

dialectic between settled peoples and

barbarians across history

yeah japan is just certain people's

right they relate most to

that aspect of china that's just settled

but those like kind of you know

more

rugged

northern chinese

uh

the japanese have a big problem with

them

so

i i mean i think so but but i don't

think that's exclusively japan like even

even like the taiwanese they would say

that you know that the ming dynasty was

the true china or whatever yeah uh

conquest ching are like

yeah i know but it's funny that you

mentioned that but taiwan was also

a huge japanese colony right and they're

still sympathetic to the japanese

era of domination over taiwan yeah i

mean i i i do think that i mean it goes

both ways right like i think i think um

i think i think mao wanted to abolish

kanji i mean i it's like the culture of

the cultural uh sort of relations are

very complex complex but but but i i

just i just bring it up i bring that

dimension up to say that i don't think

you know the japanese style of

of uh colonialism

matches you know west u.s designs post

uh 45 or whatever um

but the the last thing i'll say is that

um

uh you know uh japanese economic

practices are are

they they if you if you read about them

in detail they they i mean yes they they

they're influenced by uh sort of

german listian kind of uh uh state-led

development but but they they did

pioneer a lot of uh uh you know dengues

you can say um economic practices a

mixture of uh protectionism and market

uh western tech transfer

you know a lot of the words for

communism and marxism

came from

modern japan that from china i mean the

chinese authors

sorry the chinese uh

you know the may 4th guys and the

modernists modernizers within china

they were drawing most of their

inspiration from japan so all even the

words they have for marxism and

communism and shit those come from japan

you know

so

yeah i get that but um

i think we gotta distinguish japan's

modern japan into

eros because

uh imperial japan right

i think is a little different i think

that's not the same thing you know

yeah yeah i guess i'm mostly i'm mostly

talking about imperial japan i i guess

uh i you know i i don't come down on the

question uh in one way or the other but

but it does feel like they they saw

themselves as

as as certainly a sort of new east asian

polarity um

uh rising and not in explicit opposition

to uh both russia which they thought

um as as you know making incursions from

northern china and

uh you know the western maritime powers

uh writ large right um

it's it's

it's a weird case but but i i don't know

i i've just been think it's been on my

mind lately so i thought i'd

uh bring it up

yeah all right

anyways peace

yeah i haven't really studied uh

i have not really studied uh japan at

all i don't even know what's going on

with imperial japan i mean how did that

come to be i don't know i had no idea

right i'd have to study that

um

you know what is the involvement of

foreign banks or i don't know i have no

idea

but

i i mean i know about the brutality and

the crimes and shit i just don't know

how

i don't know what

like i don't know about in the same way

i know about what happened with germany

and italy with fascism right i don't

know what happened with imperial japan

in comparison

but anyway

i mean it's just funny because all the

time we're hearing all this shit about

russia being imperialist i mean those

dumb fucks

uh and they do have a severe case of

mental retardation the pro it's called

guys they made a video recently it was

50 minutes long and they were saying

russia is imperialist and they quoted

marx

some shit in the third i mean these are

these are poets and you know i don't

want to insult

england and english people but

it did not help when they had that

accent and they're pretentious as fuck

and they're whoa the imperial

russia's and they're trying to be poetic

and aesthetical it's the most cringey

ugly fucking thing

um you can imagine and and and they

somehow get away with it people think

it's you know it's it's them it's like

who's that fucking guy i can't stand him

who's that british guy who's always

making documentaries and he's like

we are entering a very strange world

i don't know

what to do

what is going on

somebody tell me what's going on i've

got no idea

things are changing

adam curtis there he is that adam curtis

guy i fucking hate that adam curtis guy

you know my problem with adam curtis

is that that guy adam curtis he's

he's always making it seem like we were

starting from somewhere he always this

is the this is the main illusion of adam

curtis's documentaries

is the idea that we're all starting from

the same place of like normal right we

all have this normal state of mind and

he's like what in the world is going on

airplanes there's tvs

on city streets in it the world it's

like but where are you starting from

where did we start from

right

where wh why are you making it seem like

things have been normal before right

so i don't like this dude

adam curtis

the world is changing

okay

where did we start from though i mean

like i always have the mentality that

when there's a change that's happening

that should change how we view

where we started from instead of just

being like i don't know what to do

things are changing

everything is

quite so strange

russia

invading ukraine

while the world lingers on

and we don't know

what to

do so the prolets called guys on youtube

they're pretty much doing the same shit

okay they're pretty much doing the same

shit but they're putting a marxist twist

on it

and they're out here saying the

imperialist system is driving up down

the prophets

the capitalist war is raging russia's a

new but they did this whole fucking

airy fairy aesthetical fucking smell

your own fart video

full of all these these poetry and all

this shit there was no analysis of any

economy and nothing they did not tell us

oh these are this this is the state of

the russian economy this is how russian

prophets nothing like that the whole

fucking video was just this pretentious

fucking bullshit uh these this abstract

declaration that anytime a fucking

country invades another one it must be

because it's the imperialism lenin was

talking about and the reason and they

they were showing videos of putin

sharing shaking hands with george bush

and they're like as you can see

they they were friends before but now

they're not

because of imperialist competition

capitalists come it's not true

yeah they they appear to be with each

other and shake hands for the cameras

that doesn't fucking tell you anything

about their actual relation to each

other structurally in the world

that doesn't tell you about anything i

mean the diplomacy with russia

specifically

in this new era

um

that was primarily being driven

by

the need for bush to get the kids you

know necessary he didn't they didn't

have the resources sorry not resources

they didn't have the ability at that

time to start a new cold war right so

the tensions between all these different

powers

seemed like they were under the surface

and they weren't exploding but they were

there okay they were i mean

so much of the conflicts

were about that do you think afghanistan

was about the goddamn taliban you don't

fucking think afghanistan was about

russia and china it was

it's the global chessboard why do you

think they kept expanding nato

why do you think they fucking you know

uh

all these proxy wars happening

you gotta realize

just because you're showing videos of

them shaking hands doesn't mean

everything's fine it means after the

fall of the soviet union and this and we

appear to have this new world order the

relations between these powers is now

completely uncertain right and we're

maintaining this veneer that everybody's

friends with each other

because we're thinking oh that's the end

of history

we're out of the cold war and then the

truth was that was not the case right

that's the truth

but it's just funny that these guys are

always out here talking about how

russia's imperialist

imperial

and not one of these people not one of

these people rise to the occasion

to actually debate about it to actually

put some skin in the game to actually

have the courage

to defend that idea defend that position

all right

i saw

hi haas can you hear me properly yeah

yeah something that i wanted to add

about the conversation on imperialism is

that excuse me so recently i got into it

with like a bunch of rad films on

twitter right which is

average day on twitter and one of them

one of them got mad because

they were like what does imperialism

have to do with like the sex trade and

they were like imperialism came with

capitalism and they were calling

themselves a marxist and so i went in

like lenin's imperialism like the actual

book right and there's a there's a

section where he talks about how

he was calling like ancient rome and

imperial power despite it being like a

pre-capitalist power and they were like

throwing a fit i think that that's like

really concrete proof that like niggas

on here excuse my language i don't know

if you want me to curse or not but um

niggas on here really just don't read

books beyond their titles like

and i just thought that was funny

yeah i mean uh wait what was what do you

mean though like lenin was saying that

imperialism

here let me get you the quote you want

me to get you the quote is that i know i

know the quote because i argued with

someone about it before like he's he

basically said

uh there's there's

plenty of different ways that people use

the word imperialism

uh rome wasn't rome sorry he said it's

not new that people are expanding you

know rome was imperialist it had

colonies and expanded but people who try

to draw the comparison between britain

uh and rome

uh you know don't know what they're

talking about and he's basically saying

like my

version what i mean by imperialism is

something new right

um kind of well the actual quote and you

know feel free to like cut me off

because now we're just trying to find

like a common ground right um it says

um and i quote um colonial policy and

imperialism existed before this latest

stage of capitalism and even before

capitalism rome founded on slavery

pursued a colonial policy and achieved

imperialism but quote unquote general

arguments about imperialism yeah which

ignore or put to the background the

fundamental difference of socio or

social economic systems inevitably

degenerate into absolutely empty

banalities or into grand eloquent

comparisons like greater rome and

greater britain even the colonial policy

of capitalism in its previous stages is

essentially different from the colonial

policy of finance capital

yeah

yeah that's the one yeah yeah i figured

i figured yeah no i figured that we

didn't disagree

um

thank you

yeah

one more thing because i've been curious

about this for for a little bit so like

what are your i mean i think i know like

your general thoughts but like how do

you feel about and this is going to be a

silly question because i know the answer

that i'm going to get but like what are

your thoughts on like the sex trade

right where you see like the discourse

where people are being called like

swerfs or shit like that like how do you

feel about that because that's

the sex trade i mean um

i know that

that is i mean like

that is uh definitely

something that is

includes the involvement of

you know the cia the m1 mi6 and it's a

whole system that pretty much

goes to the very top

and would not be able to exist

it's not some accidental i'm not it's

not like a it's not like a structure

it's not even just a structural thing

i'm telling you directly speaking

the federal government even beyond the

federal government these really shadowy

you know

you know intelligence agencies and who

god knows how fucking far it goes up but

they are pretty much behind the whole

thing and they're involved in the whole

thing so this shit goes up really

really uh deep

yeah no definitely um i was a missing

person earlier this year because of my

time in the sex trade um as someone who

was coerced into prostitution oh yeah i

mean like the more general

yeah yeah yeah okay i'm sorry i'm sorry

if that was too vague i thought you

meant like the human trafficking shit

no that too well i would say that

traffic

or sorry to cut you up but i would say

that trafficking is a function of the

sex trade but not like um completely

like synonymous with it if you know what

i mean yeah like when we talk about like

sex work and like sex trafficking right

like none of

them but it's actually a function of it

um yeah yeah what you're saying okay and

thank you jackson for the raid

appreciate you man

but um yeah my my view is that i'm yeah

i'm

i have the you know traditional

communist view on this i'm against

prostitution

uh in general

okay no i was actually

i was curious about that because so many

like

i don't even want to call you like a

left-wing youtuber because i've seen you

distance yourself from the left um just

from like a little bit of content of

yours that i'm like familiar with but

like a lot of people who fancy

themselves communist have a very

i want to say

shaky line with response to

the sex trade yeah

like sexual exploitation more broadly

right like um whether it be the shutting

down of women who are coerced into the

trade with um terms like swerf or you

know whatever else or oh that's what's

worth me yeah sex

sex worker exclusion yeah yeah yeah yeah

there you go yeah i mean most the the

so the the current um

thing is basically i've always said this

and i've said that

uh the cultural

policy of today's left is basically

built around

uh weak and perverted men

right

so

basically they you know their attitude

is pretty much like oh guys we should

we should totally be feminists

because who doesn't want to have sex you

know i mean oh we we can just

visit sex worker and then they'll be

like oh my my response to incels is guys

just go visit us go pay a sex worker go

over and he's like that's pretty much

what we're dealing with here

and it's

it's in i just find it interesting

because

on the one hand they're saying oh i'm an

anti-capitalist and then on the other

hand they're basically saying

you know um

yeah whoever i mean like

whoever has the most money will control

uh

you know other people's sexuality or

whatever so it's like how much it's just

weird but it's mainly based in this kind

of like you know

um

you know i don't know what it is it's

like this hippie shit

where people just

don't believe in any prohibitions on

anything but the weird thing is that

that ends up

getting pretty dark because when you

don't believe in any prohibitions you're

like oh yeah why why shouldn't we be

able to freely sell ourselves into

slavery

oh that's empowering it's empowering to

like become

a

someone who wears a collar around their

neck and is literally like fucking being

sold as a voluntary slam i mean like

it's so weird yeah it's so weird so yeah

that's what's going on with that

yeah and i think it i think it's like

rooted in like this broader sort of

culture of labeling anything that has a

proper critique against it as being born

out of puritanism or a specific kind of

christian evangelic evangelism

that is rooted in a hatred toward women

and a sort of prudishness that we are

wrongly accused of like carrying and i

don't know i just think that it's really

weird to see people um sort of shy away

from drawing a clear line on the sex

trade and sexual exploitation more

broadly um especially since like even

like in the communist manifesto right

marx talks about the necessity of the

abolition of prostitution and angles and

the principles of communism makes things

you know even more

like clear right and so

you know i just want to see like

i think it comes down to this is why i

think it's that's a thing is because

it's like

for

overwhelming majority of people in

prostitution both historically and today

they have to do it economically right

pretty much like they're they're more or

less they they've got no other option

and they don't want to be doing that

shit right but there's a specific new

trend

by people

in america

who i guess

instead of you know working uh these

shitty jobs like everybody else works

or not even just the shitty jobs this is

like your starter college graduate

whatever salary professional type of

thing there are apparently some of them

and it's just a minority by the way

uh have found it more lucrative to

become like prostitutes or something

and they they then they're saying oh

it's so empowering and shit because like

look how much money i'm making and it's

about the freedom to do this and make

all this money and shit but like the

problem is that yeah you're making money

um

i guess you're making money but like

that's that shit is still uh

uh i don't know it's it's inherently

degrading right even if you're fucking

making all this money like

it's gonna do something to your soul i

guess and i don't know people i don't

know how

people understand what i mean by that

but like it's going to do something to

your mental

um

sense of being an independent person you

know you're you're going to be somebody

who basically

uh

is being defined by i don't know i don't

know why people don't get this because

money is like an inherent

uh

tool of male domination it is inherently

like

that is a form of primarily male power

so it's like when you

are starting to sell something so

intimate

as your sexuality or that i mean like

that's not

i don't see how it's empowering i just

don't get it right

yeah and i mean like i think it's this

idea

not to cut you off but i think it comes

from this idea

that money is like neutral money is just

like oh yeah that's just like neutral

and that's like a big capitalist myth

obviously because that's actually what

it actually fits in well with what i'm

trying to say

because people think imperialism is just

this abstract thing when i'm saying no

this is a definite institution

it's the same shit with money money

isn't just some fucking abstract thing

money is primarily in the hands and in

the power

of specific groups of people

specific people right these old

wall street dudes and then and it goes

down from the rest and obviously you see

in the america i mean it's primarily uh

men control money right so it's like

people think it's like this neutral

thing oh it's just money well no money

is defined

by um

you know it's defined by a relationship

you know i don't want to get into the

marxist theory shit but it's like yeah

money's defined by

that

original violence of primitive

accumulation

that creates surpluses of production and

then that's how money comes into

existence pretty much as we know it so

it's like that's an inherently that's

inherently bounded up

with male

domination and subjugation of women

yeah and even like the framing of

prostitution as like a get-rich-quick

scheme right as someone who's been

violently coerced into the sex trade

like twice now right like i was

literally like a number five like

national trending case when i went

missing because i was um harmed by a

former client of mine like people have

this sort of misconception of

prostitution as like a get-rich-quick

scheme or a means by which um someone

can take something that is usually

shamed by society and forcing people to

quote-unquote like put it in the closet

right and to use that for their own ends

and i think that

we get to a very

strange sort of

inversion of reality wherein people

insist that those who have a proper line

against the sex trade which has

literally been you know standard

communist practice since the communist

manifesto and beforehand um that that we

are all of a sudden um in bed with

evangelical puritans and that we are all

collaborating with like

that we're like willing to like

collaborate with like police in order to

get these people like off the street

right um and i think that you know a lot

of people also tend to have very shoddy

analyses of the lupine proletariat right

the sort of d-class element of of

capitalist society what marx calls the

refuse of all classes that which sinks

to the bottom right and a lot of people

who are coerced into prostitution and

the sex trade um

are lumpinized right and i think that

also like for a lot of so-called

marxists in particular um tend to

um i want to say

like fetishize the lumpin as um it

reminds me of like how ingalls and

bakunin talked about the lump in where

he called them like the lump in priest

or something like that

and said that he was like

framing the lump and proletariat as

anti-heroes people who escaped the

alienation of capitalist society by

virtue of refusing to labor and he

correctly pointed out that

you can't alienate yourself from the

process of production and the process of

labor and then insist that you have

liberated yourself because you can't

escape

the confines and the horizons of class

society by simply opting out of it right

especially when we're talking about you

know these complex processes of you know

capital

more broadly and like you know what it

means to to be a worker yeah

you know i was just curious yeah what i

always like to say is that you know

lumpin a lot of people think lumpin is

like somehow outside of the law

when lumpin is not specifically outside

of the law and outside of normal

capitalism it's

the excess

specifically it's the excess of the

reason the lumpin for marks and eagles

don't like the lumpin isn't because the

lumpin are not like you know

um

part of the status quo it's because the

lump in our

the status quo and it's true it's the

true face of the status quo basically

like the lump and in a way like reify

the traditional capitalist relations

but the difference between the

proletariat is that there's no there's

no like

development that happens through

internal contradictions that leads to

their overcoming so lumpin is pretty

much like you know it's kind of like the

same with fascism like it's fascinating

outside of liberalism and capitalism

like no

in the nazis and the italians i mean

that's the excess that's the thing that

reifies the liberal political order

using emergency criminal powers to

basically you know

um go outside the law to enforce the law

right and that's what the lumpin do

basically that's the primary role they

have they have this effect of enforcing

the status quo it's also true for the uh

the sex trade right um the sex trade

most of all

reifies

the whatever status quo relation between

men and women exists

the difference with the thing with

prostitution is that since it's based on

money

it's like this you're starting you're

formalizing something

that otherwise might develop into a new

reality right like

the existing relation between the gender

that might transform somehow right

through the course of socialism whatever

but when you formalize it with money

through a contract

you're basically making it something um

that exists forever pretty much

and

you know that

yeah it's to me it's like i think it's

so tragic it's so sad because yeah i

mean you're right most people are duped

thinking like oh i'm gonna make so much

money and i'm gonna be like that

person i saw on the fucking computer on

the internet and then the reality is

that most people who get into this shit

i mean

look i mean there's not an equal

relationship between

men and women in terms of like power

right everybody knows that i'm talking

about in relationships in general right

so when you when when when men and women

get into relationships with each other

that's that's like an inherent act of

trust

that on the part of the women that like

you're not gonna abuse me you're not

gonna fucking you know do any fucked up

shit

because you know men are obviously more

stronger and they're like

you know they're

they they just we we all know that right

based on common sense so

when you like bring money into it and

you're like oh yeah it's just a free

contract i mean like

no because that's going to bring all the

other things

there

but the difference now is that you

formalized it like you've made that a

formal treaty

you know yeah

like it's also just like you can't you

can't buy consent like consent is not

something that is purchasable if you are

trying to sleep with someone who would

rather not do it and you have to add an

economic incentive in order to get them

to sleep with you then you are engaging

in a process of sexual assault right

you're using the precarity that this

person has been placed into as a means

to get sexual gratification from them

and some people take this um to attack

people who are rightfully against the

substrate and they use it to say like

well what's the problem with people who

voluntarily choose to engage in um

so-called sex work and the reason why i

say so-called sex work is because i

don't like carol lay she's a neo-liberal

feminist i don't like yeah i don't like

that

on twitter yeah i don't fuck with her

but

but like a common question that comes up

is like well what's wrong with the

people who want to freely engage with it

um independently of conditions which

give rise to the sex trade in the first

place and that's the problem right we're

talking about people who are outliers

people who um are against the

statistical majority and have these sort

of exceptional cases that are used to

predict pornography and to whitewash the

sex trade right um when we talk about

the sex trade we're talking about

something that is a finger on the hand

of imperialism not something that stands

outside of class society or imperialism

itself right we rightfully argue that it

is a

sort of natural outgrowth you know of

this right

and so when we talk about even like

being anti-imperialist right this means

being anti-sex trade not in the sense of

like

we need to be

like opposing like sex workers and i

would actually argue the opposite that

sex workers you know do support do

deserve our support um but rather that

we should not be um you know propping up

these sort of structures which encourage

us to try and buy consent from people um

which encourages us to predict the

process of pornography which cannot be

separated from its process of production

by virtue of what it is right

yeah i mean

yeah like there's this entire way you

can kind of psychologize it and you can

really see how

you know um there's it's kind of like it

seems like prostitution is like this

microcosm

of the relationship between

imperialist states and states that are

you know kind of being subjugated under

it

and that it's kind of it's kind of the

same thing where it's like oh well

ukraine wants to join nato and ukraine

wants to join the eu and become

colonized and have all of its you know

it wants to freely enter into this

relation contractually

it's a it's the the arguments are very

similar

when it comes to imperialism itself like

yeah what if a country wants

you know

all of these loans and all these things

and this neocolonialism

and then you know like the funny thing

is that i mean this argument is more or

less made explicit like the reason they

always talk about oligarchs it's they're

basically saying hey open up your

country to foreign competition and

imports aka

let the german and french or you know br

whatever else american

let these other industries dominate your

country and in return you know you'll

get a maybe a higher standard of living

but you won't have sovereignty

and that's pretty much how people framed

the whole thing like oh yeah ukraine

wants to join europe and become more

prosperous well what about the fact that

like it'll become a colony of germany

it'll become a neo colony right i mean

even

like i'm sorry to cut you off but not

even just that but like consent isn't

something that develops in a vacuum nor

does it nor is it something that stands

outside of or above material reality

consent could not be dis

displaced from our process that

necessitates decision making in the

first place and so when we have people

trying to say that well x wants to do x

you know in a vacuum irrespective of any

sort of material reality what they're

actually arguing or not arguing but want

us to do is to sort of you know leave

the materialism at home and to um sort

of answer these hypotheticals in a

vacuum um regardless of how

regardless of like like why these people

are doing these things to begin with and

this doesn't even justify to individuals

like you said right it applies to entire

countries like like the ukraine um

and yeah like even when you were talking

about like russia right like when the

when the ussr was illegally dissolved

one of the first things that happened

was a boom in prostitution there was a

reason for that right there's a reason

why capitalist exploitation the sex

trade prostitution trafficking and all

of these different functions of it are

the first things to

sort of pop up even even the phrases

that we use in order to justify

prostitution and sexually more broadly

things like um

it's the oldest profession no it's not

this is literally a slogan created by a

genocidal colonist who who um wrote the

white man's burden right that's rudyard

kipling the person who is calling

filipino children half animals

and justifying colonial um sort of

journeys into

india right

like these people

need to not even just these people but

i would just encourage people to think

more critically about their relationship

to pornography as well as prostitution

more broadly um and what they are you

know sort of gaining from it like even

these neoliberal notions of like well

you know i i like who i like you know

like this doesn't develop in a vacuum

and you we cannot discern you know these

things from the conditions under which

we're born and what we're you know sort

of taught and have imposed upon us um

not to say that that you know it's not

to say that it's something that's

deterministic right it's like oh you're

born here so you're going to like this

right of course they're going to be

variations within materiality that's

just being a dielectrician but at the

same time

i just that's just the point that i went

into yeah i mean like the oldest

profession shit

is also wrong because it's like well the

first profession was actually slavery

right

so and also uh sexual slavery

was part of that so and that's where

prostitution comes from more or less so

it's like

it's it's a weird thing to say

it's it's almost like

i don't know it's i started this is

actually one of the reasons i broke with

the left actually believe it or not was

what was this topic i wasn't like doing

it in public because i wasn't active in

public but like i started to see how

like

wait isn't that the same shit as when

people are like oh yeah well uh

capitalism's uh you know always been

around and you know all this shit has

always been around and like i was like

oh they're starting to say this shit

with prostitution too and it's like why

why they defend prostitution so

rigorously like why is that the one

exception within their like so-called

anti-capitalism

where they're like oh actually

um

this is liberation because it's it's

choice and it's control and it's like

isn't that like what what liberals say

about fucking like sweatshop workers and

shit like why are you

why are you like making an exception for

uh for this and i i thought something

nefarious was going on

and something sinister because i was

also seeing how in the u.s

you've got a situation where you know

people are

increasingly uh

unable to afford things

and they're being declassed and kind of

immiserated and it's just to me it's

cynical because they're like they're

making this prostitution shit like

a golden ticket when in reality it's

providing a a fresh supply

of women to basically be commodities for

you know

the

uh this new kind of

like

uh

upper middle class and bourgeoisie like

you know is these you know because you

know another thing too that

i looked into a little bit was like you

know one of the i heard this i could be

wrong i heard it was also like these

silicon valley

startup people encoders like have been

some of the biggest

customers of the new um

a new trendy prostitution shit

and that made me realize like

yeah this is a way of pretty much

trafficking the working the women of the

working class and let's be real like

these are young women doing this shit

right everyone always says oh it's all

adults well is it i mean like yeah

you're you're an adult if you're 18 but

you're also fresh out of high school and

like

you know yeah no 18 isn't an adult like

i i refuse to subscribe to that notion

that somebody who like four months prior

was was taking like like high school

tests is now like somebody who is like

like a full-fledged adult ready to be

thrown out into the real world not to

say that if you're 18 you know you're

not going to be able to care for

yourself but rather that our conception

of adulthood is not something that is

imposed immediately on the day that you

know you finish your 18th solar return

and you know it's something that i think

we should

sort of think of with more

nuance i guess but even when we talk

about oh no go ahead go ahead cause i

see you no yeah i'm saying like but to

me what was so disturbing is it's like

the market for this new push

or this new whatever sex work ideology

it's clearly young women it's clearly

with the women who are in high school

who don't have a good future it's the

women in college who are in debt

probably the number one target for this

shit the number one demographic are

young women

in college or college aged so it's it i

found it really disturbing like it's

like to me it was like

what the fuck the left are the vanguards

like this is the scheme that these wall

street guys like

you couldn't make it up but why is the

left at the vanguard of trying to

basically

turn

young women into commodities for the

rich

you know it's really it just found it

really sick to me

because they don't want to investigate

their relationship to pornography and

structures which give rise to

prostitution and sexual exploitation and

so it's easier to call all of the

rightful critics of

the sex trade and sexual expansionism as

closeted christians or people who are

secret evangelicals as opposed to the

material reality that um women and and

even like like men right and other

people who consider themselves like in

between outside the binary right like

this is something that is specifically

marketed toward them as a liberatory

project as something that will help them

um sort of regain a sort of self like

ownership right and i think it's like

incredibly insidious even the way that

it's marketed towards like trans women

right where um because a lot of trans

women struggle with desirability and

wanting to be desirable to other people

um pornography and prostitution is

something that is peddled to them as a

liberatory solution by which they can

find their own inner confidence and find

ways in which they can find communities

of care and love when this is absolutely

antithetical to reality right like

it's bullshit for that like it's

bullshit for lack of a better team um

because we know what the sex trade does

and we know you know what gives rise to

it um

yeah i mean

yeah to me it's like um

it's one of those things where

uh

it's kind of it's kind of has this

paradoxical thing where it's like people

are like oh well

it's it kind of like it runs up to the

limits of liberal individualism

where

you do have to draw online and be like

yeah well just because it's like

so-called voluntary does not mean

it is actually a free choice you know

just because it's formally voluntary

doesn't mean it's a free choice so it's

one of those dividing lines there

but also

you know they talk about christianity

and evangelical puritanism and whatever

else

which i find really weird because

you know

obviously materialists

are not uh religious fanatics

but

when they're talking about how they're

against christianity and the

evangelicals

you know it's pretty um

sinister because what they're actually

talking about is this weird theosophy

shit

uh which is also what the nazis were

inspired by that came from the new left

and the hippies and the beatles and all

those kind of fucking people so it's

like what are you replacing christianity

with you're replacing it with something

worse

than christianity you're replacing it

with this like religion of capitalism uh

you know this kind of weird

fucking um

idea that like oh yeah in order to truly

destroy christianity

we need to um

start sacrificing children to moloch and

we have to fucking

bring back sacred prostitution and shit

it's like well hold on you know like

that's uh

you know the thing about

quote unquote christian is like that's

the way the religion has been used to

justify a lot of you know um

bad shit and injustice but it's like

you don't respond to that by then saying

oh yeah we need like when they're

talking about how they're against

christianity they're not

talking about um

anything

like

this is not the christianity marxists

historically were criticizing this is

like

some pretty nefarious shit

not even just that but this idea that

that the church has always been

something against prostitution or the

secretary more broadly is a point that's

made antithetical to reality um there

are many members of the church who are

advocating for the expansion of

prostitution as a socially necessary

labor institution that would help keep

men and their desires to be um sort of

like

like yeah actually yeah during the

medieval times that was the status quo

during medieval times is when

prostitution flourished the most

actually it was actually a lot of people

don't know this um

prostitution was legal actually in the

russian empire before the uh the

revolution it was legal

and in europe before the the the

revolutions in europe

you know as part of the medieval

quote-unquote so-called uh traditional

societies

they they had a legal they had

prostitution that was legalized and it

was a total form of like hypocrisy where

yeah as you said they it was like a way

to um offset sin

so they just have prostitutes right

so

people get it really backward it was

actually the um

the kind of like french revolution and

then those revolutions in the

1800s

and beyond especially the communist ones

that those are the people who crack down

on on the prostitution

um

another fun fact too is that

uh

the these kind of like lumpin pimps and

also even prostitutes too

were

really against robespierre during the

french revolution

and they supported the thermadorian

reaction

uh which is also a fun fact but yeah i

mean like they uh

that's such a silly thing to say because

it's

if you're gonna say like you're gonna

blame christianity well

historically

um

the church and these societies that were

claiming to be traditional christian

societies i personally don't think they

were i think they were uh fake

um but nonetheless i mean yeah all of

these vices

that they're associating and calling

progressive like prostitution and

you know

who knows what else to be honest is the

next

thing

yeah that was commonplace

yeah no it's it's a vestige of of prior

modes of production and all their

histories it's not something that is

newfound or or progressive or it's it's

the it's the same side it's the opposite

side of the same coin which is equally

as harmful as uh just uncritical

so-called sex positivity right and

i think that i've made all my points

here um i want to go yeah reiterate but

thank you for your time um yeah i hope

you have a nice rest of your night i'm

gonna go back to the center yeah for

sure

um

guys are you still here

because my stream just reset

my stream just reset so is this okay

it's the same video good we're good all

right um

i am gonna

i'm gonna get these

thank you nino the woke movement got

ushered in by the feminist movement from

the 70s

nino

thank you

appreciate it

interesting take on haas props

thank you

good morning revolution good morning

revolution

muriel

thank you good morning revolution good

morning revolution cinderella

morning revolution

good morning

good morning revolution good morning

revolution ej good morning revolution

nasa canada

i'm gonna bring you up on stage and

let's debate about whether russia's

imperialists what do you think they left

they left the blue check nausea canada

which is a ukrainian outfit in canada

they didn't wanted the baby as soon as i

called them out

uh they left their tail between their

lips

and that does not surprise me that does

not surprise me

the slightest degree

they left

and the reason they left

the reason they left

is primarily

because they're scared of the truth they

don't want to actually

yo

ej

good morning

good morning revolution

good morning revolution ej

good morning revolution

yeah

good morning revolution ej

good morning revolution

they're scared

they're scared of the truth

um

i want to talk i want to expose someone

else right now

and

it's someone who's fell off really hard

and i i don't know why specifically

and

his name

is

his name is slavoy zizek the slovenian

philosopher slavoy zizek

has increasingly

come out as the biggest shill

of american unipolar globalism of all he

wrote in a recent article some shit like

but i can't believe

that we are entering my god

the russian

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the dimitri

uh lavrov he said

just imagine if russia was america and

ukraine was iraq and my god he was right

but i can't believe

based

peter saverin thank you

chancellor of the university of alberta

1982

86 order

i can't believe it because

my god we are entering a world where

they don't care their pragmatic relation

like the taliban have relation with

china

they don't care about the ethical

standard anymore the universal

ethical standard and motherfucker you

sound like george soros you want a

universal ethical standard to be imposed

by every country from the top down the

fuck is wrong with you you literally

sound like george soros and karl popper

the open society a common ethical

standard what does that mean jesus

aren't you a hegelian don't you realize

ethics are based on institutions you

want countries to mediate their

respective relations toward one another

based on the implementation of common

values

is it possible for different peoples i

mean jesus aren't you a galleon didn't

you yourself say that in being able to

establish themselves as different an

authentic encounter can be formed

between different peoples based on

mutual uh ignoring one another and

respecting the the distance of the other

and then on that basis you can create

determinate you can build common values

based on these determinate relations or

at least discover them

uh

you know what where does it where is

this

it comes from this fucking kantianism

um

of social democracy it's the same shit

that fucking kotsky was peddling and the

rest of these

scam artists and he just sounds like a

fucking karl popper sorosian pretty much

it's really sad it's really sad i i know

zijk was getting a little cool

um

before this but then he just did a full

180 i guess and he's now saying

that my god my god putin

he speaks you know you know what the

problem with zijic is he always speaks

on behalf of we the whole international

community and the world he begins from a

perspective of some universal subject

but he doesn't interpolate this

universal subject by any kind of

institution

um

he believes that this subject is

universal by way of some contrived

philosophical explanation

um

which he assumes immediately has

concrete reality which it does not okay

um he defended european universalism

before and i know that right but

wasn't his entire point of that that the

universal truth would be discovered

by peoples outside of europe themselves

on their own terms and he was basically

trying to explain how you know the the

emancipatory anti-imperialist and

anti-colonial project drew from

appropriating the ideas of europe

themselves what does that have to do

with fucking europe imposing common

ethical standards on everybody you know

what i'm

saying so he's completely fallen off

as a matter of complete cowardice

because g-jek is unable to accept

uh you know he's unable to accept the

possibility that you know

that his his beautiful western europe is

not

as advanced as russia russia always has

to be

less advanced and it has to be more

backward i mean zizek in his recent

article he revealed this fucking

genocidal

racist view of russia where he was like

my god my god

my god you see

the problem is

russia not just because of putin but

the problem is russian culture

russian culture is

my god it's

dostoyevsky was a horrible guy

they believe

russia is on a divine mission to

separate itself from the west

my god

shut up

my god

my god slavoy

yeah he had this fucking view that

there's something wrong with russian

culture you know jesus it's also

theological because jesus hates

uh russian orthodoxy he thinks that

western christianity

is in a privileged way uh more advanced

than orthodox christianity

he's actually said in the past he hates

orthodox christianity he said i my god i

hate this idea of uh the unity of man

with

the divine i i hate this i like

separation

so he thinks the catholic church was

more advanced than the orthodox church

because it establishes the alienation

from the community of believers with the

divine through the institution of the

catholic church

and whatever i mean he is catholic

himself and that's fine i mean he comes

from that background that's fine but

it's like it's so weird how

he claims to be this universalist

philosopher

but

um he just so happens to events a view

particular to his

specific background and actually

slovenia in particular slovenia's

particular interests

as a state with more affinity toward

western europe

um

than

anywhere else in the balkans so it's

like every gj claims to be universal

he's not a universal philosopher he

represents the particularity

uh

you know

of his

position

of his own background he's not like

thinking about this from a pers you know

it just so happens to be that you know

slovenia

is the fucking truth

destiny

people don't care about politics

ideology and will just vote for whatever

makes their life easier slash

comfortable do you believe this is true

and if so do you believe it must be

remedied and how no i think it's not

true thank you average america got

involved in domestic politics and

slovenia only has predators as neighbors

so we can't afford sovereignty to be

based on ukraine on jp though

thank you average american

yeah

but anyway um to answer your question no

i think destiny's wrong

i agree that people don't care about

politics or ideology in any

institutional or contrived rationalistic

sense

but

people do care about the or i'll call it

the order of signifiers

they do care about

meaning in the world they care about

what this means for their universe of

meaning

and people will definitely sacrifice

a comfortable life and an easy life

uh in order to possess fidelity

to this meaning

so i think it's no it's wrong it's a

false type of cynicism people don't care

about ideology on ideological terms but

they do care about ideology in the sense

of meaning

they do care about

what they think it means

it could even just be on a superficial

aesthetic level it doesn't matter but

they care about

meaning they don't care about meaning in

the terms of reason it's more of a

feeling

but it's based on these intuitions

if what destiny said was true

then the people who would dominate

politics are the people who make

people's living standards better and

that's not the people who dominate

politics right

um as a matter of fact people will vote

for people

that go against their material

uh interest in terms of making life

easier and comfortable

just because those people provide

uh meaning to them in a specific way or

the way that they make sense of those

people is different

so i reject this animalistic view of

politics that people vote based on

making their life more comfortable no

people vote

because

their world is not something they take

for granted am i going to choose bush or

am i going to choose gore well who

represents the truth of being

again not in a philosophical sense but

in a real sense of their phenomenal

world like the world

when they go to fucking kfc or a fucking

target like who makes sense of the world

better in in like who makes sense of

their world better

think of it in an aesthetic sense

like bush

am i a bush or a gore guy it's not going

to be because of um

what they say rationally but like what

do they represent

in terms of um

what it means

to be a leader

um

are we gonna have the texan with an

accent like this and talks like this it

has this mannerism and

speaks this way and has talks this way

um

represents this

and also

people also vote based on a prior

assumption of power what i mean by that

is that

people don't vote vote as a free choice

in a vacuum they don't vote like i want

to vote for this person because i like

them better they vote this person

already has all of this power and

influence and connections and whatever

and he's part of a status quo

i'm voting for him

instead of the other guy

but so it's like george bush for example

is already a power

you're not voting by voting for bush

you're not giving him

his power he already has some power the

other guy has power too so which of the

powers do you support

so that's that's how i break that down

it's not

not only is it not based on um

some self-interest of making life easier

uh it's not even based on

a free choice at all it's based on

a vibe

pretty much it's

i don't know how to tell you that is how

americans vote by the way the vibe is

not purely an aesthetic vibe it's not

even a purely aesthetic vibe

it's a vibe that takes for granted the

fact that these people already

represent powers that be

so only when you take all of that for

granted does that culminate in some kind

of vibe

and some kind of sense of the world

like quite literally people vote based

on feels

there's no other reason people vote it's

literally just feelings that's it

hey everybody

y'all are still here

thank you

all right

uh

as far as the twitter space is concerned

i just want to say

that

look people like

roll it cult and paul moron and roderick

day they do get one thing right

and that one thing is all right guys

we're not ending the stream

but i am gonna eat in front of you i'm

eating in front of you as a show of

dominance okay

so let me be right back

once again i want to remind everybody

that i'm

cutting i'm cutting with a grilled

chicken sandwich that has a very

unhealthy bun

um

but i'm eating it anyway and the reason

i'm eating it

is because

i already ate very healthy today and i

can afford this bond i can afford this

government's need based on the

guidelines of scripture we need to vote

leaders and who follow scripture

i disagree

because

george bush followed the scripture

how do you measure who's following the

scripture or not that's the problem so

many it's easier for you to pretend

that's how the antichrist wins by the

way

the antichrist is a deceiver he pretends

to follow scripture

huh

uh-huh

no low fat is not where it's at low

sugar is

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this is like when i visited my swedish

friend's house as a kid hey chat chat

oh hey guys give me a second i'll be

right back

helga

hand me the salt bjord

you're hugging too much

of the anchovies

i love how we eat as a family

based anti-digital rhetoric

okay guiding bird i'll be right back

i'm eating with my family

not enough for the silence

the cold winter

every man for himself

survival of the fittest

ah

oh you're still here

such a burden on us

such a parent

oh what's that you want water

ah

okay fine

mother

go walk through the tundra and the ice

with a bucket and break your back

getting filling up the bucket with water

from the lake miles away

so our guest

can have a refreshment

if you insist

if you insist

you may have some

water

anything else you want to take from my

family

oh

you're waiting

you're waiting

would you like a bite

swedish hospitality

bill too

you want a bite

want a little bite

thor has blessed me and my family to

survive

all others are unworthy of survival

the weak shall perish

only the strong survive in the cold

tundra

we give thanks

after my guests

feeding you that water

you spilled some

okay

now

he will return

we will return

we have return

i'm back

i'm back

why are you looking at me

i didn't see that

i didn't see that

remember when i got banned from twitch

brought twitch banned me

what did i do

what was my crime

wha why wha

what what

was i really

really deserving of that i don't think

so

i don't think so

i don't think so

um with that being said

y'all want to play starfield

i'm just kidding

but

here's what i'm gonna tell y'all okay

this is the lesson

there is one thing

the swedish are hospitable for

one thing only one thing and that thing

is

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me

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oh

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spend my life

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cause you was just

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oh

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