Politics DEBATE - ELON MUSK CRASHING OUT on TRUMP!

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slowly the Louie, because I'm her lover.

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Brother Louis, Louie, Louie,

Oh, she's only looking to me

Oh, let it Louie, she's under cover

Brother Louie, Louie, oh, doing what it's doing

So leave it, Louie, because I'm her lover.

You know what? And she said her coming to me. I saw she come back and tell me.

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oh let it do me she's on the cover

brother-lubly-l-l-l-l-me oh doing what is doing

oh leave it to me

Because I'm her lover

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Because I'm the lover.

You're no good

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Brother Lulululului

I'm in love

Set her free

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breaks her heart

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She's undercover.

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brother looie

looie

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Oh, doing what I's doing

So leave her

Louis, because I'm her lover

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I saw she come nothing to me.

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and she's playing, oh, and she's been, like, to me.

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Brother literally

Oh she's looking for me

Oh, let it go to me

She's on the cover

Brother literally

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you love

me

because I'm

the lover You're no good can she see brother louis louis i'm in love set her free oh she's only looking to me only love takes her heart brother loo ylu y loy lily only loves paradise oh she's unlooking to me brother loo y loo yli me oh she's on looking to me oh let it do me, she's undercover.

Brother Lurie, Louis.

Oh, doing what it's doing.

So leave it, Louie, because I'm her lover.

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brothers do you know you know me what she's like to me

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oh, doing what is doing?

So leave it Louis, Because I'm a lover

You're no good

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Brother Louis, Louie, Looie

I'm in love, set her free

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Paradise

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So leave it lonely

Cause I'm her lover

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I said her

Come back and tell me

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Oh, said her, I'm looking to me.

I said she's on looking to me.

Rather loo-le-loy-loy-l-wee, oh, she's only looking to me.

Oh, that it, Louie, she's undercover.

Brother Louie, Louie, oh, doing what it's doing.

So leave it, Louie, because I'm her lover.

I'm her lover and she said her come back to me

I saw she come back and to me

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she's going to me

voice and she did

love said her

coming to me

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I didn't know she's been making to me

Brother Lurie Lurie

Oh she's going to look and to me

Oh let it in me

She's on the cover

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Only loves paradise.

Oh, she's on looking to me.

Brother loo-le-loy-lo-le-le-le-le.

Oh, she's only looking to me.

Oh, let it go.

She's undercover

brother Louie Louie

Louis oh doing what is doing

so leave it Louis

because I'm her lover

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and she's been really

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come back and told me I said said her funny to me.

I saw she come looking to me.

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me, oh, doing what is doing

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Oh doing what it's doing

So leave it lonely

Because I'm her lover

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I said her

Come up and tell me I said she's on looking to me rather loo ylui louis oh she's on looking to me oh she's only looking to me oh let it louis she's under cover brother louis oh doing what it's doing slowly the louis because I'm her lover

You know what

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nothing to me

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she's done nothing to me

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her phone making to me I say she's doing, she's doing me. I said nothing to me.

I said she's done nothing to me.

Brother loo, loo and me, oh, she's looking to me.

Oh, let it do me.

She's on the cover.

Brother looer, lily, love me. Oh, do what I'm doing. me she's on the cover because I love,

Lily, oh, do what I'm doing

so leave her

because I'm the lover You're no good can she see brother, brother Louie, looie, looie.

I'm in love, set her free.

Oh, she's only looking to me.

Only love breaks her heart, byo lily only loves paradise oh she's unlooking to me brother looie loo really oh she's only looking to me oh let it do me she's on looking to me. Oh, let it do me.

She's undercover.

Brother Lur-Loo-Lui-Lui,

Oh, doing what it's doing.

So leave it, Louie,

because I'm her lover.

I know what, and she's

her, Lur-Loo-Looly, her said her and looking to me. I don't know what she said her nothing to me.

I saw she come nothing to me.

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nothing to me

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know and really

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Louis

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for the

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love you

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I'm in

slowly Louis because I'm her lover.

You're no good, can she see?

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I'm in love, set her free.

Oh, she's on looking to me.

Only love breaks her heart by that Louie, love, you, only looking to me Only love breaks her heart

By the Louie Louie Louie

Only loves paradise

So she's on looking to me

Brother Louie Louie Louie

Oh she's only looking to me

Oh let it go we

She's undercover Brother Lou lourl lullo loo me oh doing what it's doing so leave it looie cause i'm her lover do no

and she said her come looking to me i she said her looking to me.

I saw she come looking to me.

Brother Louis, Louis, Louis.

What, she's only looking to me?

Brother Louis, Louis.

What, she's only looking to me?

Oh, said her

looking to me.

I saw she come looking to me.

Brother Louis, Louie, Louie, oh, she's only looking to me

Oh, let it Louie, she's under cover

Brother Louie, Louie, oh, doing what it's doing

What it's doing, so leave looie because i'm her lover you know what and she said her, love her, she's nothing to me, that she's nothing to me.

Brother Louis, oh, she's moving to me, oh, let it go me me She's on the cover

Because I love to leave

Oh, too much to win

So leave it to me

Because I'm her lover Lover You're no good can she see for that looey louie louie i'm in love set her free Oh she's only looking to me

Only love breaks her heart

Brother Lurie Lurie Lurie

Only loves

Paradise

Oh she's unlooking to me

Brother Lurie Looie Looie

Oh she's only looking to me

Oh let it go me She's on the Louie Louie, Louie, oh, she's only looking to me.

Oh, let it go me.

She's undercover.

But then, Louie, Louis, oh, doing what it's doing.

So leave it, Louie, because I'm her lover.

I know what and she's

a lot of looking to me

I saw she's coming to me

brothers are looking to me

and she's doing to me

love she's going to me

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Brother lo and me

Oh she's looking to me

Oh let it do me

She's on the cover

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Don't what is doing?

So, leave her, looie, because I'm a lover.

You're no good, can she see where that loo, loo, loo, loo, I'm in love, set her free.

Oh, she's only looking to me.

Only love breaks her heart All the Louie

Looie Looie

Only loves paradise

Oh she's only

Looking to me

Oh she's only looking to me

Oh let it go

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Brother Lurie Looie Looie

Oh, doing what it's doing

So leave it lonely

Because I'm her lover

You know

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i know what and she said her love and told me i saw she come in to me i saw she come looking to me. Brother loy-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-le-l-le. Oh, she's gonna-l-l-l-l-l-l-me.

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She's on the cover.

Do they look, loo-lily.

Oh, doing what is doing?

So, leave it to me.

Because I'm in Love

You know

I'm no

Can she see

Brother

I'm in love

Set her free.

Oh, she's only looking to me.

Only love breaks her heart.

Brother Louie, loo, lily.

Only loves paradise.

Oh, she's unlooking to me.

Brother Louie, Louie, Louie.

Oh, she's only looking to me oh let it do me she's under cover brother loo de loo o doing what it's doing so leave it louis because I'm her lover.

I know her, and she said her, no, and she said her, nothing to me, I saw she

on nothing to me.

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I see she's going to me

rather looking

on me like to me

oh she's going to look at me

she's under cover

rather looking at me oh doing what is doing so She's under cover Because that Louie, Loewee

Oh, what is doing?

So leave it, Louie

Because I'm her lover

You're no good, can she see

Brother Louis, Louie, Louie.

I'm in love, set her free.

Oh, she's on looking to me.

Only love breaks her heart by that looking,

looking, looking at me.

Only love is paradise.

So she's unlooking to me.

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I'm going to Yo! Yo, what is up, everybody?

Uh, partner Pigeon.

Thank you.

Diogenes.

What's going on, guys?

I appreciate you

I

what's going on everybody

I am not in a good mood today

I'm not going to be an asshole today

I'm not going to be nice today in my

confronted chairman space I'm not in a be nice today in my confronted chairman space. I'm not in

good mood, but I have high energy. You know how it goes? I'm not in a good mood, but I have high

energy. And I don't have any patience for bullshit today. I don't got any patience for yip yappers and

time wasters and bullshitters and dumb motherfuckers.

What the fuck is up?

Sleeper, so what's going on?

Anyway, y'all, we're going to get into it.

I'm going to start the space, actually.

Like now.

I'm going to start it now.

By the way, everyone should congratulate me for having such an early stream.

What a, what a miraculous thing.

Oh, my God.

Fuck X. It's such a piece of shit. It's such a piece of shit

It's such a piece of shit

Or blue stacks is a piece of shit

I didn't mean to click the live button on X

Spaces there we go

American Communist Party

Discussion

Q&A

No, debate

debate, discussion, and

Q&A.

All right.

So we're starting the space.

Starting the space.

The space has started.

And we are actually going to be on the tweeter app.

And we're going to be boosting it so let's boost the tweet everybody

let's boost the tweet okay i'm going to show you the tweet and we're gonna boost it I'm gonna have it up

right here and it's gonna be right here and we're gonna boost it we're gonna boost

this tweet.

And I'm going to put it right here.

So people see it.

And I'm going to delete the tweet, by the way, when the space is over.

But we're going to keep the tweet on as long as the space is running.

Okay, so the space is here.

We have people pouring in, so many people, by the way, so so many people all 20 of these people

pouring in by the way you guys don't have to join you can just stay in the stream and chill

in the stream and watch eating your popcorn but let's boost this space to make sure a lot

of people get in by the way i do need someone to help co-host this space.

I am going to need a co-host because for some odd reason, I cannot see on Blue Stacks or whatever it is.

I can't see a lot of these bots who request to debate me.

I can't see a lot of them.

So I need someone to co-host,

whoever can co-host.

Let me know.

Let me know.

FroTaz, what's going on?

So I want to first open this up

by talking about something

that I mentioned the last stream, which is the dark elf, Curtis Jarvin, the Dark Elf. I was talking about how I was aware of a conspiracy by the Dark Elf, Curtis Jarvin. And now he's been working with Peter Thiel and this entire strange network of dark

the intellectual dark web

quote unquote of dark elves

and the

it's like a Lord of the Rings fan club

they want to destroy democracy, they say.

And Peter Thiel's involved, and all of these Silicon Valley people are involved.

Now, I didn't know, I still don't know, really.

I'm not going to make the assumption that Elon Musk is part of their faction. I don't know. I mean,

I think he is. Maybe I'm getting it wrong. But I did say that there is this big conspiracy they're

trying to, they think they're so slick too. He thinks he's like, oh, we're playing 60 chess and

we're going to have the neo-reactionary, what is it, corporate oligarchy, and we're just going to have a CEO and everything will be privatized.

Anyway, they believe this, and they kind of larp as these dark elves or these

Lord of the Rings characters. I don't know.

Anyway, these gentlemen, I said

that the reason I don't ever panic

about it or freak out about it

or whatever, and the

reason is because I know they're going to fail. They're not

going to succeed in overthrowing the to fail. They're not going to succeed in overthrowing the cathedral, actually.

They're not going to, it's not going to work.

They're not going to succeed.

This is basically a ruling class utopianism.

You know, there used to be something called utopian socialism,

which almost always came from the bourgeoisie, by the way. A lot of people know that. It's in the 19th century, you saw bourgeois utopian socialism, all these rich guys who thought they had all the answers to all the problems of society, whatever. So Curtis Jarvin doesn't think he's a utopian.

He thinks he's this realist.

He thinks he's this extremely realistic guy

who has no illusions

and he's not one of these hippie socialists

or whatever.

So he's like, oh, I'm totally realistic. I'm totally whatever. So he thinks that

just by being this quote unquote realist that his utopianism is just going to work. But it's not

how it works, right? So he's still a utopian and Elon Musk is a utope

they're all utopped they're right-wing utopians you know so to speak and it was a colossal failure

uh Elon Musk was trying to do something with the deficit and And look, it's those old guys in the Senate and in Congress.

That's the cathedral.

It's the lobbies.

It's the corporate lobbies.

I don't care if you're Curtis Jarvin and I don't care if you're a goddamn hippie

who believes we should all be

on organic farms

with tie-dye shirts. It doesn't really matter.

If what you want does not

align with the monopoly capitalists

that are actually in power, it doesn't matter.

You're just a utopian. So all these

interesting Silicon Valley, creepy, crawly people who have all these interesting ideas about eugenics and all this stuff that they say that they present themselves is so interesting.

None of that.

It's the same thing as a guy with the tie-dye shirt saying that we all need a

young Soviet what's up it's the same

thing right because at the end of the day

it's the crooked sleazy

you know evangelical

creepy

deeply entrencheded you know dynasties of the creepy deeply

deeply entrenched

you know

dynasties

of the

monopoly capitalist

class

who are they just

slimy

Republicans

and Democrats

and Nancy Pelosi's

and Chuck Schumers

and Lindsay

Graham's

those are the

people running the goddamn show and And, you know, it's even

Trump bows before them. Trump gets on his knees and he bows before these people. And he tries

to have some wiggle room to be different as much as he can, but it is only so much he can do, you know.

And at the end of the day, you know, these are the people that are in charge.

And I think this confirms that the Silicon Valley, you know, dark elves are definitely not in charge, so to speak.

They're not in charge.

They're not the ones that ever held power.

And Yarvin and all these in Musk, I mean, Musk himself, he's like, look, I've accepted capitalism.

I've accepted the system.

This is irrational.

And that's how it is.

That's how every revolution starts, by the way.

You just start to realize the system is fucking irrational. Even if you're a total sellout

who accepts all the premises of our current system, you're a total fucking sellout who accepts

all that, right? It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter

because even then it's not rational. See, you know what the number one dissidents in the Soviet

system were? The number one dissidents were not the retards running around going, we want freedom,

we want liberalism.

No, no, the number one dissidents were the people who were like, hey, look, like, I'm a communist, I totally, long live Brezhnev, this is great.

But, you know, this is, it's kind of fucking stupid how we're doing this.

We kind of need to reform it a little bit.

Maybe with the planning.

Maybe add some computers to the mix.

These people were very dangerous. They were regarded as very dangerous by the revisionist clique that eventually took over the Soviet Union.

Because, you know, it's, it's, it just exposes and reveals the contradictions of a system so blatantly and so openly, right? That's what's going on in the USA. Elon Musk is not proposing socialism. He's not proposing a communist order of things. He's not

saying we need to, you know, we need to have a radical reform of the system. He's just saying,

hey, let's try to cut the deficit because this is untenable it's just going to spiral out of control

until it we default this is irrational and he's out of there you know it's it's really that simple

you know it could be a total sellout and chill of the system but as long as you are not because the whole

this is also a lot of leftists get this wrong they get it very very wrong okay alignment with

the system has absolutely nothing to do with ideology you can have the ideology of the system.

One for one.

But that's not what matters.

What matters is who, what the pecking

way, it's all authority. Who's

ass are you kissing? Right?

It's a pecking order. It's authority.

You sit down, you shut the fuck up, you do what Lindsey Graham tells you to do. That's it. It doesn't matter your values, your idea. Nobody gives a shit about that. They just care about are you going to get in line and do what you're told right Elon Musk can call himself a capitalist

a capitalist he can call himself a libertarian um whatever he can call himself anything he fucking wants

but if you don't fall in line

and just take orders

directly, you may as well be

a goddamn Osama bin Laden. You may as well

be the goddamn epitome

of an enemy of the

system for a lot of people. Right? So this is

kind of how it works.

It has nothing to do with ideology.

The system

definitely promotes certain

ideologies in the universities

and in media. That's absolutely true.

But it's all

about, it's a very brutal hierarchy of authority. You just follow what, you do what you're told, you're not supposed to question it. You know, ideologists are very dangerous, whatever they are, because ideologists do question things. They want their ideology to be internally consistent in some kind of way.

So that's going to give them the audacity to sometimes challenge things and ask questions, right?

And that is the problem with any kind of real order that involves authority, right?

If you're a pure ideologist, you are at odds with authority, right?

Because authority is not premised upon ideology, and that's just the truth.

Amila with the 10, what's up?

Authority is not premised upon ideology.

Authority has its own logic

and its own structure.

Absolutely it does.

It's a beast of its own.

It's not about your fucking opinion.

Oh, I have, congratulate.

You know, you could be Drew Pavloom

and go to the White House and literally carry a sign of the cia and say i

worship the cia i love the cia all this kind of stuff that these people say that but that that's not

okay i mean so what like you're not really let in until you actually start

knowing that you know following orders that's really what it is you just have to do what you're told

they don't really care how you justify it in your stupid fucking head, you know?

Anyway, I'm going to start bringing people up, but I just wanted to say this is a vindication, I think, unless Peter Thiel and Yarvin are on the opposite side of the fence as far as Musk is concerned, Total vindication of what I said.

That Yarvin, it can be a dark elf and whatever,

but at the end of the day,

they're not going to succeed.

That's how sad.

By the way, we used to think that there's this big conspiracy. Look, it's so sad our current historical predicament. The sad thing is that, no, it's just really boring Wall Street capitalists who are in charge. The Silicon Valley guys are not in charge, right? They have all these wacky, warped ideas, and they're pretty ugly ideas, frankly.

They have these eugenic, whatever.

But, you know, at the end of the day, the people in charge, that's Wall Street.

That's the old, boring, traditional global capitalist class, you know, the oil barons, all these kind of people,

they're still firmly in the driver's seat. This is the Nienn regime, okay? This is like, you know,

the Silicon Valley guys, they're a lot like the nobility right before the French Revolution who were pushing for

reforms. They're like, we're an up-and-coming new nobility. And we think there's just, and like,

they're not, they're not going to be the subject of the revolution, right? The subject of the

revolution is going to be the, the S Sands Kolo, if I'm saying

that correctly, or the, you know, the small merchant in the town or the peasant in the countryside,

really, that's the subject of the revolution. These guys who are these nobles that are these dark

elf disgruntled nobles they're not going to ever be able to affect any kind of change in the

system for better or for worse they won't affect change in the system the people that will affect

change of any kind will always be the revolutionary masses.

That is a law of history.

It's always been the truth.

It can start at the top.

Often it does start at the top.

I'll concede that.

But it's never carried through without the revolutionary masses.

Every revolution in history,

it's all the same.

So,

so Yarvin,

he's not a scary guy.

The New Yorker in New York Times,

they try to make him out

to be this really scary,

terrifying guy.

He's not scary at all.

He's a larper.

He's not going to be able to do anything. All his plans will amount to nothing. Because he has this retarded worldview, frankly, where he says that he's a dark elf and the Maga and other workers, they're all hobbits. And they're just these passive potato-eating hobbits.

And he has no comprehension of how revolutions,

or at least systemic changes of any kind work.

At the end of the day, Yarvan is going to be dancing with Kamala Harris

and Nancy Pelosi.

He will have to bow to the system.

They all have to bow to the system.

Lindsay Graham,

they're all getting on their knees.

They're bowing to these really boring elites that have ruled us for decades and decades.

And, of course, the Zionist state of so-called Israel, right?

So look, that's really what's going.

Big pharma and all these sleazy dirtbag, whatever companies.

There's a fly in my vicinity. Anyway, I'm going to bring on people. There's a French gentleman who's from the PCF.

I'll bring on this French gentleman. What's going on, Yan? What's going on?

I'll bring on Sewell for a co-host. He's a good co-host. Yan, go ahead and speak.

Go ahead, Jan. Go ahead and speak.

I think Yan is eating a baguette and he can't speak.

So Yan, thanks for wasting our fucking time.

Thanks for truly being useless.

Casey, please come on and speak.

Go ahead, Casey.

Go ahead, Casey. Go ahead and speak.

Oh, hello.

Hey.

Hey.

So I'm coming from... Yeah, not too much,

as thanks.

So I'm just coming from Australia.

I just thought I wanted to get a chance,

stop in here and just ask some questions.

Because I do have... a chance, Cockaneer and just ask some questions. Uh,

because I do,

I do have,

um,

I do believe that the ACP,

uh,

seems best place,

uh,

to try and capitalize on,

like,

marga disenchantment

in the future

hasn't seen.

So

I just want to ask a couple

of questions because I'm on the

I'm on the ACP website right now.

So the on the ACP website right now. So

the program here

it's

it's not too bad

but I'm wondering

is there like

an actual sort of

program for revolution

itself

um

that seems

impossible. I mean, I can't have a program for objective laws of history.

We anticipate revolution, and we want to be at the leadership of such a thing.

But you don't have a program that says we want revolution.

Also, look, the whole point of spreading revolutionary consciousness is giving people a reason to comprehend the necessity of revolution.

You know, it's not to tell them revolution is good for its own sake, because it's not good for its own sake. There is a reason it's historically necessary. So revolutionary consciousness derives from the concrete necessity of revolution, but that's not revolution for its own sake.

This is also why we don't put in our program

class struggle, because that's a given.

A class struggle is not

being waged for... This is the content of class struggle.

These are the things that the working class will rally around

and contradistinction to the capitalist class.

So it's a form and content confusion a lot of people have.

We're not just directly advertising, you know, the form, I guess,

directly, when such a form is determined objectively, and we are just giving it content in our own way.

Yeah, I've only recently heard about this form and content stuff.

I haven't read, um, I digger that I've been, you don't need to, it's a, you know,

it's, I mean, look, you don't need to read anything.

It's just, I'm, what I'm thinking, what I'm trying to say is that.

Yeah.

You don't need to push for revolution. You just need to

stand your ground and revolutionary principles will make themselves evident through the course

of struggle itself. But there has to be a reason. There has to be a material necessity that endangers

that. And that has to have political content. It can't just be larping and saying, I want revolution

because it's cool or I like the form of revolutions because then you're you're

you it's that is no longer revolutionary right the form of a revolution you're aestheticizing it

it's no what's where's the content what is what is it for what's the context what's the concrete

circumstances so you know this is

really where we're coming from with that i have i have heard the uh i've heard the critique from

even people on the ultra left who say that like uh there are a lot of modern

modern um sort of

communist leftists to try and

um deify the Russian

revolution.

They sort of just want to

they want a repeat of that

violent struggle.

Um, well I mean it definitely definitely uphold that revolutionist Steve. I want to repeat of that, you know, a violent struggle.

Well, I mean,

it definitely uphold that revolution is the most consequential and

important one of the last century

at least.

Yeah.

Another question, so it says,

ending mass immigration and

so we have one question at a time

you know, and and and that first question was

you know, I don't know, Sue,

besides this person who already agrees with us, because their name is Islam-Stalinism,

and let's give the French guy a chance to finish their baguette and speak.

Go ahead, Yan. Go ahead and unmute yourself.

I think there's a wignat right after this guy that you might want to talk with.

Okay, well,

bring them on and Yan can finish

chomping on their croissant

and learn how to unmute

themselves. Go ahead and bring that

gentleman up.

Hello? Oh, it's an Australian. Great.

Dumer Nass. What's going on?

We spoke before. I thought we've gone over this. I'm not an Australian.

Okay, if we spoke before, then you're out.

Okay. And second of all, you always open an Australian-sounding way.

So, you know, we're not going to have this thing where we just have regulars, you know, just for its own sake.

Anyway, Sewell, who else is requesting who has not done so?

There's just a guy with like a fat white guy as a profile picture with three

followers, probably a alt. Go ahead, bring him on. Go ahead and bring them on.

Mr. National. Go ahead, Mr. National.

Hello. Hey, I just became aware of your channel or your Twitter, and I found some things very interesting. You're talking about Elon Musk, and correct me if I'm a misunderstanding. But basically he's

finding out there isn't a will to get rid of the deficit. So like the whole, it seems like what

you were saying. It was this really interesting point I've never thought of that there isn't any there's no will even

amongst the right to get rid of the deficit because that debt extends power for the banking system

so like the debt is at the point is to be in debt because it keeps these people in power.

And he's kind of finding that out the hard way.

So what's your question?

Yeah, the question is this.

What do you think of the Federal Reserve banking system?

We want to get rid of it and replace it with a national bank.

So how do you keep the national bank from not doing the same thing at the Federal Reserve Bank?

Because it's directly state-owned and it has no central bank independence and only the state can create credit directly.

Just like China's.

Just like China's.

Cool.

Thanks.

For sure.

For sure.

Sewell, who else do we have?

And we're just literally just the the Turkish

Stalinist that's it

could they

they said their name is in Mumbai

are they Turkish really

let's bring them up

I don't know the the fucking

bio is Turkish

I'll give you a chance to speak

but if you if what you say is

Haas I really like you and agree with you

then you're getting banned forever

so please speak carefully

My question is

Is there any

Parties in the UK

So that's

it that's exactly it

your mic is not working

dude

oh

it's not that's still not working so this guy's just farting he's just farting you know i just removed him

do we have anyone else requesting we literally have no one else requesting right now. Wow, that's fascinating.

That's fascinating.

A lot of people, a lot of people, they, they don't want to request.

They have a lot of opinions about ACP.

I'm the chairman of ACP.

But they won't request because ACP did this and that and ACP is this and that.

And hello, the chairman is here.

I guess the chairman's views don't matter.

Only some random person who's on the periphery.

That's what matters, right?

And by the way, let's hold down to the same standard.

Every single person who's affiliated

with so-called leftist

Twitter is responsible for a

collective organization

called Shitlib

Incorporated. And everyone has to be responsible for what every called shitlib incorporated.

And everyone has to be responsible for what everyone who's even one degree of separation away says.

And they're not organized so they don't have that burden because they don't have an organization.

So of course, they're not responsible for anything.

And if you are responsible for things,

you have to be absolutely pure, absolutely pure, and there has to be absolutely uniformity across the board. And I can't understand how are people so retarded that they buy into this? And they actually

find that compelling and convincing.

I don't know.

Sciop, go ahead.

You have a frog in your profile picture. Hello? Yeah.

Hey, what's up?

My question for you is, why don't you support capitalism if capitalism is actually revolutionary?

When did I say it's revolutionary?

Well, I don't know if you did necessarily, but if you're a Marxist, don't you believe that capitalism is revolutionary?

Yeah, like 300 years ago.

What, you don't believe that anymore it's it's it it is no long it has not been true for a very long time

it is not been true it has not been true since Lenin wrote imperialism.

If not before then.

So you're saying capitalism is no longer revolutionary?

It has not been for centuries.

Well, then how did George Soros do all those color revolutions?

An overthrow of state is not historically revolutionary, you know, in the Marxist sense.

Actually, the opposite can often be true. You know, sometimes the destruction of state

infrastructure retards and rolls back advances in the forces of production. And all it does is it

devastates the means of production and the forces of production and serves to plunder and destroy nations and just completely

destroy them so you know yeah look at Libya for example so that's not revolutionary

in the Marxist sense revolutionary in the Marxist sense takes more than just obliterating the order

the normal order of life. A revolution has to

actually qualitatively advance history into a next stage.

George Soros did not do that. Any of these color revolutions he's ever bankrupted

did not advance history to a higher stage or more developed qualitatively stage. It retarded

nations and countries compared to where they were before, actually.

Well, I disagree.

I think that what he did was he changes the regime.

He puts in the people who he wants to do,

and I think you want to do the same thing.

And I don't know how you define revolutionary.

What the hell are you talking about, sir? What the hell are you talking

about, sir? I want to do what George Soros does. Well,

why don't you give me the fucking money first?

Well, I thought you were against capitalism,

but capitalism is the most revolutionary thing that there is, so I don't understand what you position.

The whole spiel that I went on for 45 seconds, was that a waste of my breath and a waste of my time?

I just didn't know.

Well, I don't even know, like, how you define revolutionary...

I don't know either, sir.

I don't know either.

I don't know either.

I just defined it for you.

I defined it as...

Well, what?

Taking history into a qualitatively more advanced stage.

Okay?

Which means...

Taking history to a more... Which means endangering political and economic relationships and systems that qualitatively outmode and surpass previous ones by virtue of their logic and their development versus regressing into shit that already existed into the past.

Sir, do you understand the distinction?

I think that, like, I don't see how you can like if you said

give me the money so I can do my revolution

then doesn't that make you a capitalist

like if you say that

then you should go out and be a capitalist and go

make a bunch of money

I'd love to. Give me

the capital to do it.

I'd love to make a lot of money.

I'd absolutely love to make a lot of money

and bankroll this party

and grow it. But that's not how it works.

That's not how it works. Because the only way

you can actually grow a party

is by organizing among the working

masses, and that's how it actually works.

Or what if you find

a person who is powerful, maybe they're a banker,

and they have, like, millions

and millions of dollars. What's in it for them?

Well,

I mean,

that's why it doesn't happen because there's nothing in it for them.

That's why we don't get...

This is how capitalism works.

If you start a business,

you go out,

get funding,

you got to, like, give your elevator pitch or whatever

and go on the shark tank. Except, except

money's fake. Except

we don't even have real money. So what are you talking

about? You know?

Okay, we have two G have two groipers

so are requesting

I think this this conversation is pretty much done

I'm gonna bring up the first one

I think this guy is really confused

go ahead we're gonna bring on Hoplight

who's a Groyper who has the

frog

one who's a groper who has the frog one at a time bring on the frog one hey what's going on

hos thanks for having me yeah great space i just wanted to say this goofy guy here, Kyle Langford is not a

Groyper, doesn't represent us. He's

a gay faggot, trying to do all kinds of crazy

shit. Just wanted to put that out there. Doesn't represent

us. We're just airing out drama that I don't give

a fuck about. Thank you for nothing.

A.V. Let's go ahead.

Our A.V. Looks like he already agrees with me.

Who's the Kyle

He left,

the governor of California?

I don't know what's going on. I don't know

what's going to. Two people just left.

Go ahead, AV.

Hello, comrade Haas.

I would like to quickly extend my greetings.

So before I... Can you hear me?

Okay.

Yeah, I can hear you.

Right. I'm joining the space for the first time, so lest I waste our time.

I was wondering if you'd be willing to entertain discussions, or is this just a space for confrontations?

This is just a space for confrontations or questions.

Right, right. But if you have an interesting thing you want me to talk about at length and lecture i can do it

but you have to be quick about you know presenting, presenting it. So please, very quickly.

Yeah.

Okay.

Okay.

So, Comrade, I'm from India.

And I was just wondering, where do you place the country that I come from in your scheme of things and the recent developments in Asia and Bricks and

multipolarity because the way I look

at Bricks

right now is basically that

it's like a sabotaging party

right like there's China there's Russia

and all these countries.

They seem to

be in a kind of unison

when it comes to a lot of their positions, but

there's India, which is

an aberration

So is your question just my views on India?

Not really.

The question is, how do you view India in the grand scheme of things?

India is going forward.

And the polarity and the changes in the world?

Okay, sure, I can answer that.

I think that I have not properly studied India at all. So I don't, I'm very ignorant about India. I don't know a lot about it actually. But I do know a little bit that it's ripe for revolutionary conditions. It seems like, with the farmers' protests that happened a few years back.

So I think that there's a lot of interesting things, India, is probably historically bound, you know for

in terms of changes

major major changes politically

but

there lacks the proper leadership

of course right now

but I think that India and its current state

and the current post-colonial

system that it has uh is definitely um incapable of um uh india is not in my estimation in my limited view it's not a real state. It's the same thing as the British Raj, but there were some Comprador classes that were brought in to take some of the cake in addition to the forces of global, colonial, financial extraction.

So in my estimation, this is India.

India is not properly unified state.

And insofar as it is within bricks, I think it definitely has sabotaged the goals of Russia and China and so on. And I think it will never be loyal to the cause of multipolarity. India has always been friendly with Russia. That's true. But is India, will India sacrifice its relationships with the west for russia i doubt it

and i think that's where it's the safe because i think when you look at it russia is a

very important country because for a lot of reasons obviously but

the indo pacific region is half of the entire world. And the U.S. cares way

more about encircling China than it does destroying Russia. It cares about destroying Russia a lot. Don't

be wrong. But China is definitely more on the top of

its list of priorities. And India

is a decisive piece

of the strategy

of the U.S. to encircle and destroy

China. Now, India,

you know, Indians are not,

maybe they're not going to get on board with it.

Maybe they will, but that's how the U.S. and Britain sees it at least.

And the economic relationships are definitely there to make that plausible, to make that possible, right?

India's incorporation within the Anglo-Saxon world of international finance and capitalism,

you know, probably will outweigh India's history of fraternal relations with Russia, I think.

But, you know, that's my limited appraisal and my understanding.

But thanks for coming on and thanks for the question.

But in general, I need to study India more.

I don't know a lot about it.

So, um,

we have

five requests, so I can only

see one. Who are these other four people?

All right. Again, we've got

the Australian with, uh, Wignat.

Then we've got a Groyper.

Do you want that guy up?

Which Groyper?

Char as Nable Pippen.

We'll bring up for debates.

Bring them up.

Go ahead and bring them up. Go ahead and bring them up.

Go ahead.

Oh, hi.

How's it going?

Um,

I'm kind of,

uh,

I'm a little loss of words. hos um how's it going i i i just like it's like i don't i even understand with that that's like some n pc like what that was like some some some that was like some

that was like some disney Pixar introduction like oh i'm a little

at a loss of words of hi i mean what is what is going on what are they putting in the food i don't

know what this is it's a Anyway, bring on the next person.

We have some Australian author guy, but he looks like... I think that's the guy I already brought on, yeah. Oh, does it? Yeah, it is. It definitely is.

Casey?

I think so, yeah.

It doesn't show anyone else's speaker right now.

Okay, well, I mean, I'll have to speak, you know, until people muster the courage to join.

But, you know, the thing is that, you know, look, this Elon Musk and Trump thing, there's another possibility I didn't talk about yet also,

which is what if it's staged? What if there's so much heat on Elon Musk right now and on Trump

as well that they're doing this and it's all fake and it's staged to take the heat off?

Because you know what I want to see is I want to, I asked ChatGBT, GBT, and I asked GROC, they don't have answers.

What is Peter Thiel saying about this?

How is he chiming in?

Because the Musk-Trump relationship, I always thought that was a proxy for the Teal-Trump relationship.

But so I found out a day or two ago, it was revealed that Elon Musk called Peter Teal a sociopath.

Is there tension going on between Elon Musk and the Peter Thiel Dark Elf Alliance?

The Dark Elf people.

Is something going on in Middle Earth, so to speak?

Is Elon Musk a dark elf, or is he something else?

Is he some kind of, some kind of orc?

You know, what's going on?

We don't know.

I would like to know that.

It would give me a way better idea of what's going on.

And also, look, if

Teal, if this does not,

you know, Trump just had a huge

agreement with Palantir in Silicon Valley.

So

if this, if something

tells me this could be fake and it could be staged,

I don't know, actually. I don't know, actually.

I don't know.

But we should always entertain that possibility.

But at the same time, what Musk said is pretty remarkable.

It's pretty incredible.

He said that the Epstein books, that Trump was in the Epstein black books or whatever, and that's why they weren't released, the notebooks, the files.

You know, look, I don't know why they would fake that because, you know, Musk is helping delegitimize the regime.

He's like, he's going, he's fully crashing out, firing everything.

He's launching everything that he could possibly do to so distrust in the current administration.

He's doing it, you know, and i don't know how stage that could possibly

be uh be and and and it's a really interesting i think a lot of people are underestimating

how fucking big this is because you know for the longest time the whole right was united

the ones that are in power.

So X was a apparatus of the Trump campaign in a lot of ways.

I mean, the content we were seeing on X, the nature of the discourse here reflected that.

Elon Musk has gone rogue. X is still just as important

as it's ever been. Nobody uses truth

social. So, what's

going to happen? How is this? Okay, there's a guy

named the Knicker. We're going to bring them

on. This is another

Groyper, I believe.

Go ahead.

Go ahead.

Yeah, so you

deny the two fundamental aspects

of geopolitics, and that's

race and Jewish power.

And that's where you make your biggest mistake.

And I see why you do it because you're like a 5'3 manlet, brown manlet.

So it makes sense.

I'm a little intellectual, and I just wanted to tell you that the most fundamental prerequisites of geopolitics is race and Jewish power, and I know so much about geopolitics and

history, just from you can tell from the tone of my voice. So please, the knicker, explain to us why race is

fundamental to geopolitics, when, for example, Arabic peoples who are extremely close to each other racially

are always backstabbing each other and selling each other out at every turn. Or why, you know,

in East Asia, you have a huge conflict between China and Japan and South Korea and how that's somehow immaterial and the whole rift between the Republic of China and the People's Republic, even though they're literally the identical and the same people. But apparently the only explanatory paradigm for understanding geopolitics is raised and it's the most important

one. Can you please explain that the knicker?

Go ahead, explain.

Crash out more, but

keep crashing out. Go ahead.

Go ahead, explain yourself. You just said that

the two fundamental principles of geopolitics

are race and Jewish power.

Go ahead and elaborate.

Stalin's people, what's up?

Go ahead and elaborate on that.

It's pretty simple.

Are you speaking English?

Like, it's pretty self-explanatory.

Right, but why should anyone buy into that or accept that as true?

How can you convince us? It's just

an obvious reality of the world we live in.

How is it obvious?

You have eyes?

I absolutely have eyes

how do you explain the geopolitical

conflict in the former

Soviet space according to race

and Jewish power just go ahead

and break it's fundamentally about

groups and groups are different

don't don't walk in that back and talk about fucking groups.

Talk about race and Jewish power, which is what you just said, and apply that to the conflict of Russia and the former Soviet space for Russia to basically reassert its sovereignty. Go ahead and explain your geopolitical

paradigm of how Russia is fucking in conflict with all of these other Slavs who are part of the same race,

according to you, who are ass kissers of the european union and the west and nobody

hates there's so much hatred for example between checks and russians you look at

yugoslavia with the croats and the serbians they are racially identical they're people. The Bosnians, they're all at each other's

throats and they want to kill each other. You just said the number one most important principle

of geopolitics is Jewish power and race. Apply that to the geopolitical conflict of the Yugoslav

wars in the 1990s. Go ahead, Nicker. Go ahead and do that.

I can't

really do it, though, because I'm just

like a pothead who just says shit and talks out of their ass.

And I just go ahead and do it.

What's wrong?

You can't?

Because you're a fucking moron.

You know, there you go.

He said nothing.

Nathan, let's bring on Nathan.

Husk, can you hear me?

Yeah.

Yeah, how you doing?

So I just wanted to ask you, like just quickly, I just had a question.

Apologies if you touched on this before, but what is the ACP stance, or just like your personal stance on Zora and Mundani?

Or just like, what is the relationship

of just

these leftists figures

did you say New York guy?

Yeah yeah so

what is your the relationship

particular of leftist but

in a particular municipal context

surrounding like freezing rent and stuff like that.

I mean, I don't really care about his policies. I think the guy is not, I'm not very, he's not, I don't think he's very interesting. I think he's politically not very independent, not very strong.

I don't trust him at all.

I don't know much about him, though, to be honest.

But he doesn't seem particularly authoritative or strong-willed politically to me.

He kind of seems, especially after the, you know,

he kind of seems like a Zionist sell

out, to be honest.

Yeah, that's fair. I think that's a lot

of the criticism that he has received.

But like around like the policies

of like particularly gracing of, like, particularly crazy ones.

Anyone can have great policies, but remember this, you know, politics is about authority,

and it's about there's a pecking order, and there's a, you know, it's really, like, brutal

relations of power you're dealing with, and it's like you can have all the

policies in the world but who are you flipping the middle finger to who are you giving the middle finger to

and who are you actually you know who are you uh actually uh taking orders from right that's all that matters who are you actually taking orders from, right? That's all that matters. Who are you

pissing off and flipping off and breaking ranks with? And who are you giving, you know, acquiescence to?

You know, who are you giving obedience to? So, you you know policy is of secondary consideration when it

comes to the laws of political dynamics so to speak yeah yeah i i think i think that's fair so i guess my

like like just a broader question of like what is

the role of like the Marxist-Leninist

on a municipal level would you say?

A municipal

level.

I don't know. I mean

it depends on the municipality. It's all going to be different. It depends on the contradictions. I don't think there's a general Marxist view on that. I think that it depends on the contradictions within that municipality right so do you feel

like like obviously like chris halale is like the high belief of in vermont for example like

have you found that to be

useful for the ACP?

Chris Salali

on

the high bailiff?

Yeah, I mean, yeah, he's in a position

of authority. That's great. He's, he oversees the police. He. Yeah, I mean, yeah, he's in a position of authority. That's great. He oversees the police. He, he polices the police, so to speak. That's wonderful. That's great. The high bailiff.

Okay. Yeah, that's fair. That's all I wanted to touch on. Thanks.

For sure. see you later

we got three of the same guys we've got charr who was the Disney guy now we got three of the same guys.

We've got Char, who is the Disney guy.

Then we got A.V., who is the Indian guy.

And then we have slime, who's a private with zero followers.

I don't know.

Bring the creepy zero follower person.

All right.

Hello?

Yep.

Yes.

I have a question regarding China.

Okay.

So my question is you regard it as a Marxist, Leninist nation, and the problem that occurred in the Soviet Union, which was a lot of, like, the internal organs, the institutions, they became like on the time, and they didn't really uphold the same revolution that was started by Lenin.

How would China avoid the same issue?

Well, they're aware of the causes of the decline of the soviet union

yeah but like what steps are they taking like i've tried reading about it but i didn't

like i couldn't find anything regarding that well zizen Jinping is trying to promote the study

of Marxism

sincerely.

And they are actually

doing that.

They're spending

a lot of money

and putting a lot

of effort into actually

making sure that

the newer generations

actually learn

and study Marxism.

And, you know, it's also important to keep in mind that

Xi Jinping is kind of a populist. He has actually cracked down on corruption,

and he's opened opportunity for the rural masses.

And that's really what, you know, what didn't happen in the Soviet Union

there was just this stagnant

corrupt bureaucracy that

never gave way, you know, it never gave in

Yeah, I've

Like I've seen that like where he's

Like in the

Municipalities of China

Like a lot of the villagers

They have like autonomy over their own like

Land and their own area

And they make their own decisions

But I don't think that's kind of successfully like

Defend like the dictatorship

of the proletariat because we actually have to be

like ideologically well read

um

they are I mean they study marks they have entire

university courses and they I mean they have everything

for that

institutionally they cultivate it's just they're not so fanat Institutionally, they cultivate it.

It's just they're not so fanatical about it because they live and breathe it pretty seamlessly.

It's part of their society, you know.

It's a given to them.

You know, the rejection of Marxism is actually quite odd

within China. It's considered very strange

to reject something that

is just as a truism so indispensable

to the very functioning of the machinery

of state and even civil society.

Oh, I wasn't aware of that.

But also a lot of the leaders

that hold some of the highest positions

in the Politburo.

A lot of those guys, they're, like,

they're like technocrats.

They're not really like,

world red Marxists.

Like, if you were to like question

them on theory, all I could say is this

Xi Jinping is carrying

China. He really has saved

China. Yeah, I agree.

I agree with that. So that's really

you know, what you have to

keep in mind. J Jinping is the key factor in China's political longevity right now.

You know?

Yeah.

Nothing is guaranteed and nothing is absolutely certain.

But right now, Xi Jinping is helping hold things up.

Yeah, I have another question regarding like success.

It's okay, but we have one question at a time.

So, Sue, who else is requesting?

That's the same two

people. You have the Disney Groyper and

the guy from India.

Disney Groyper? What is that?

The guy who came up with like a Pixar

and PC voice.

Okay, bring them up for a second

chance.

Okay.

Because maybe they're going to answer the question about the Yugoslav wars.

Hey, Deus fault, you fucking Muslim, call me bitch.

Yeah. You got something to say

Come on

Yeah I do

Hey hey hey hey

By the way

By the way

I just want to say

I just want to say

We're gonna reclaim the Holy Land

We're gonna reclaim the Holy Land

You fucking Muslim

Common

And I just got to call your special name going to reclaim the Holy Land, you fucking Muslim, commies.

And I just got to call

your special needs teacher, and I shut the whole

thing down. That's how... You said

Deus Volt. I just call your special needs

teacher, and the crusades are called

off. That's all I have to do.

Okay? So, let's be humble here. That's all I have to do. Okay.

So let's let's be humble here.

Let's be, let's be aware of what we're dealing with here, you know.

Anyway, who else, Sewell?

The guy from India and like one

guy named Comrade, private, one follower.

Okay, bring the Comrade, I guess.

Hello?

Yeah.

You hear me?

Yep.

Yeah, so I just have a question regarding um like the potential war that's uh that's been brewing up with uh russia and all the uh europe for example like

as well as uh what's the other country oh yeah and uh uk um so like

do you guys actually believe like uh war war three is gonna happen and if it does how do you like

think it would actually like come about you know like what do you think

um i gotta check my crystal ball real quick is that all right

yeah sure did all right i Yeah, sure, dude.

All right.

I got to kind of do a seance. Can I do my seance?

Yeah, sure.

Um, um, um, yeah, yeah. I'm getting the spirit, hold on.

Um, eh, hey, hey. um... um... um...

um...

I'm...

... I'm getting some... ... Hold on.

I'm getting something.

Oh, shit.

Okay.

So I consulted the spirit realm and, you know, I was talking to a lot of people and stuff.

I had a lot of visions and I saw a lot of things and, you know, what I can tell you

pretty confidently is that I don't fucking know

and no one else does.

If

to war, it's a break out, like like World War III, whatever, would you, like, which side would you think doesn't come out winning?

Like...

The revolutionary side.

That's why that's

Are you smoking pot

No why? Why?

I'm just wondering

No, I don't do drugs to have a drink

alcohol or smoke weed or...

All right, well, make sure you don't do pot.

Anyway, who else are we bringing on?

Everyone's old person except for one.

I'm just going to bring that one up.

Okay.

Aquatic Doge, Christian and Bio. Okay. except for one i'm just going to bring that one up okay aquatic doge christian in bio Go ahead, Aquatic.

Aquatic dog, Aquatic Doge. You are a speaker, you can go ahead. Okay, well, they're no longer speaker. There's three requesting all three are old people. Slime, Comrade, and AV.

As long as they're new, no,

don't bring any old people. Just anyone who's

new. Anyone who's new at this point.

I'll bring up the next new person

that requests. Okay. Aquatic

requests again.

Go ahead, Aquatic. Your and go ahead aquatic your mic is off if you don't speak i'm not going to give you a third chance. So just go ahead. Okay. Thank you. Well, there seems to be no one who wants to confront the chairman.

That is beyond, that is beyond plausibility, frankly.

There's plenty of people who want to confront the chairman.

It's just that they're all too afraid to do it.

They want to do it.

They just don't, they don't have the courage.

And that's such a shame.

That's such a shame that so many lack the courage to confront the chairman.

Because they definitely would like to confront me because I always see people bitching and crying and whining about the party that I lead.

I help lead.

And they don't, you know, they, they, they, they, they don't got smoke for the chairman.

Well, they do, but they're just not willing to confront him about it.

And the reason they're not willing to do that is because they, they, they rehearse it and they listen to themselves speak in the mirror and they sound fucking stupid.

One new person requesting named Sari on bringing them up.

All right.

Go ahead.

Hi. uh hi hi can you hear me yeah we can you hear you okay sorry i will ditch the headphones uh Sure. So,

I'm not

American, but I was wondering

because in America,

I'm from Colombia.

And here we used to have a very strong

two-party season,

akin to what happens in America.

And that only fell, and now we have several different political parties,

that only fell because the institutionality behind the two political parties

said behind people didn't really believe in ten anymore and that was because

they were able to really have the whole for it right do you believe that in the future is possible

for the institutionality of the Democratic and Republican Party to fail

because it seems very unlikely. It seems that the rich people really have a lot of power.

Thanks for, you know, you answered it yourself, so thank you for that question uh mr resco go ahead Hello! Hello! Mr. Resco, your mic is off.

Oh, there we go.

Greetings, I hope you're doing well, my brother.

Question.

Heads up, it's not confrontation or whatsoever, really.

This is just an effort on my part to seek some clarification.

So it's a two-part question.

Now there is this narrative that is prevalent from some factions,

equating China's current political system with Germany's national socialist model.

And now my question was, could you analyze if any of the comparison, maybe look at the

Yeah, it's... It's... It's stupid.

Right, okay, cool.

My reason, exactly, but I just for the benefit of the audience, and of course, you probably know this subject much more in depth than I do.

I just wanted you to maybe highlight some of the

um, um,

um,

the portion of differences,

um, so to speak.

All right.

And the second part of the question,

sorry,

has,

is,

uh,

let's just be one question at the time for now.

Epic. No worries.

Yeah,

well,

you can talk

politically or

we can talk

economically,

okay?

Politically

Okay, economically.

Okay,

economically,

I can talk

economically.

I can do both,

but we can do

economically

only. No, no, I can do both. I can do both, but we can do economically only.

No, no, I can do both. We can do both. Okay, well, Nazi Germany

did not have a state bank. The state, they still had a central bank. They still had central

bank independence, all right? They didn't have

universal state or public ownership of land.

The Nazis not only didn't private, they didn't nationalize anything except the airplane

industry. They privatized a whole lot, right?

You look at the dominance of the state-owned enterprises within China.

There's nothing like that you see in Nazi Germany.

Okay, so China, the state, runs the economy in a way that was not the case in Nazi Germany.

In the Nazi Germany, you had a cartel of pre-existing oligarchs, capitalist oligarchs,

that coordinated together through the Nazi party to dictate policy.

In China, there's no such thing.

The one who dictates policy in China

is the Communist Party, nothing and no one

else.

And it's that simple. They don't

acquiesce to the will

of any

forces within civil society however rich they are however much money they have it

doesn't even matter because they don't really own it at the end of the day they have a way in china

of making it seem like something is private and it's actually not private

and that's good, that's great.

So, I mean,

I can go on. The Chinese

economic system

is based on developmentalism, peaceful

developmentalism, right? The German economic

system was driven by war, arms manufacturing,

okay, militarization.

That was the whole thing holding together the German economy.

With their, the way they build out their economy is through propping up the military industrial

complex right that's not how that's not what drives china's economy right okay so politically

it's very different politically speaking um china actually does still have a whole process democracy.

They didn't have that in Germany.

China absolutely still has institutions, which at the most local of levels, make sure that the will of the people reaches the highest levels.

You didn't have this bizarre Frankenstein monster system

where you had the Weimar Parliament just dissolved with emergency acts

and then this weird awkward system where you just had the Nazi party.

And there was no, there was, China is a much more sophisticated system you

have the Communist Party dictatorship that works hand in hand with the people's democracy

it's what they call it and these are two institutions of state power that work together

and Nazi Germany didn't have that, right?

You can go to the nationalities policy.

China has 55,

I believe so, 55 recognized

ethnic groups, and they all have equal

rights under the law.

They don't have racial laws.

They have no such thing, right?

So I can go on and on and on, but there's a fundamental difference.

There's no comparing the two.

The reason people compare the two is they lazily look at the fact that both were had a relative, you know, both had markets and both were, you know, the Nazis claimed to be very nationally oriented. That's debatable because they were mainly oriented on conquering Eastern Europe on behalf of the global capitalist

profiteers. It's not very nationally oriented. But there's a superficial thing people do as they look

at it and they go, huh, they're both not

the same type of socialism as the Soviet Union,

therefore they're the same, and that's not true.

So that's my answer.

But I appreciate that.

That's Very insightful.

Now, the second part of the question, if you would allow me, is that okay?

Sure.

Right.

This is more pertaining to how you would characterize China's

political

economic model.

Specifically, to what

extent can it be

described as

communist?

And what defining

characteristic support

and classification? Because obviously you hear, again, and what defining characteristic support for the

classification because obviously you hear again this mentions about how

Chinese is just a state ruled

ruled by a communist party that's all it means

specifically how does it

how does this implementation compare with theoretical communism

I suppose is what I was right

well theoretical communism there's two ways of looking at it

one is the

the process of historical development

itself as scientifically expounded into consciousness and into a scientific consciousness.

So that is where you can see communism in motion, which is the application of laws of history consciously to reality, right?

Responsivity to those laws of history, consciously and scientifically.

So that's one way you can look at it. It's a process of history that is comprehended and

steered scientifically so to

speak. Now the second notion

of communism

with a lower case C

is a stage

of historical development

specifically the development of a mode of production. So this is a stage of historical development, specifically the development of a mode of production.

So this is a stage of the historical development of a mode of production in which the principle of the to each according to their, from each according to their from each according to their ability

and to each according to their need

right so to speak

this is how it's been described historically

for example in China

and basically such a society

would be based on a free association of producers.

There would be no medium of exchange value.

And nothing really positively can be said about it except

how it would lack many of the characteristics of hitherto historical modes of production.

Like, for example, it would not have classes. There would be no state, so to speak. But what that means is not very clear, by the way, because there's a distinction between central authority and state. There's always a distinction between that, right?

But anyway, such a communist society would be, you know, far into the future as a consequence of transformations in the mode of production that outmode a lot of the

things or characteristics of capitalist society. So those are not the same, though. If you say a country is

communist, you don't necessarily mean communist in the sense of their mode of production as communist.

You mean it in the sense that they're led by communists and they're guided by communist principles.

Excellent.

Thank you for answering my questions.

That was very insightful.

Thank you for your time, brother.

For sure.

One of the guys is an anti-communist.

Should I bring him up?

His name is Nick. Go ahead, Nick, your speaker yeah so i just uh i had a question uh if you don't mind so you're talking about how china is communist correct yeah yes that's correct correct? Yeah.

Yes, that's correct.

So,

by what definition?

I'm just curious, because you said it was run by a communist party,

but it doesn't really follow the traditional

definitions given by Marx? but it doesn't really follow the traditional definitions

argued by Marx.

Some people argue, however, that Marx didn't use definitions.

So I'm just curious what you're basing it off of.

Well, you, I just said it, though. i just literally went on a tangent describing it that there's a

distinction between calling a country communist in the ordinary sense of the word the collicule sense

which is that it's just ruled by a communist party and guided by communist principles.

And then there's a notion of communism with a lowercase C,

which was described historically by Marxists as a phase in the development of the mode of production in the future.

So wouldn't communism with a small C more be socialism since that would be the...

No, no. Well, they were sometimes used interchangeably, but within Marxism, Leninism,

they made the distinction between socialism and communism within that tradition.

To simplify it.

Okay, because I guess I just, what is the difference between communism, lowercase,

and socialism in this situation?

Oh yeah, a socialist society

would still have exchange value, right?

A socialist society would not be based on a principle

of purely free association. It would still be characterized on a principle of purely free association it would still be characterized by a class

antagonisms and a dictatorship of the proletariat and therefore state in the marxist's sense of the

word as an organ of class rule and dictatorship.

So I'm assuming that you are not a Stalinist based on how you're arguing that.

Of course, Stalin said that Soviet society was a socialist society.

He never said they had achieved communism, the lowercase seat. He never said they had achieved communism, the

lowercase seat.

He never had that pretension.

He said very clearly that

they are building a socialist society

and eventually

heading toward communism.

If that's the case, so communism is without a state.

But there's a difference between the communist principle and the long-term consequences of being guided by such a principle.

There's a difference between those, you know?

And that's important to understand that the communism with the lowercase C

is not what people should be desiring and fantasizing about and fixating on.

That is just an inadvertent,

indirect consequence of the evolution of history. The capital C communism, the principle of commune, that is what matters. That's what's important so we should i'm just we're going

off of an idea it's never worry about the future 100 years from now worry about the struggle here

and now the class war here and now and our duty to respond to the laws of

history now. That's what's important now. Fanticizing about a much better society and a more

advanced society, which, you know, we don't know what that would look like or when it,

that's not, that's not important.

That will come objectively as a consequence of wisely responding, but that's not the primary

antagonism.

The primary antagonism right now is not the development of a post socialist or a communist mode of production and and the previous one. The primary antagonism right now is much more concrete and it's based in a class struggle. So this fixation a lot of people have on this fetish of communism is a moneyless, classless, whatever. They're confusing that for communist principles. Well, no, that's not true. Communist principles are what you find.

And, for example, the Soviet textbook,

the moral code for

the communist builders, for example, or what

the Communist Party of China teaches its

members, to be selfless,

to be duty bound,

to fight and serve the people, and so on and so on.

That's what communist principle is collectivism versus individualism,

sacrificing petty individual ego for the sake of

the objectivity of collective principles and so on and so on.

So this is what communist principle is.

Long-term consequences, a society guided by those principles, and it would be is that

it would allow the fetters

on the development of the motor production

to be removed

and history can just develop

objectively and organically

without

you see

it's really complicated to explain

it's like you know

the problem with

the reason you need

communist consciousness

is because

all other kinds of consciousness partake in this endless cycle of failing to respond to the objective laws of history and thereby being condemned to all manner of absurdities, contradictions, confusions, and being condemned basically to this never-ending cycle, this like samsara, so to speak, racial antagonisms, religious antagonisms, all sorts of obfuscations and obscurantism.

And all it does is lead to the degeneration of civilization itself, thus far achieved.

And it leads, it destroys the development of the productive forces. It destroys. It has a destructive factor. So, you know, communist consciousness is necessary because communist consciousness is consciousness of history and historical development itself.

You don't have clarity on that, and you're bogged down by metaphysical presumptions and superstitions, so to speak.

You're talking about history. which country do you think

did communism best because you obviously said

well you said that there is no

nation that did communism

correctly or

fully done I don't like

that idea that no quote unquote

no nation did communism I don't like that notion I don't like that idea that no quote unquote no nation did communism.

I don't like that notion. I don't like

this meme that communism was never tried.

It's wrong. It's disgraceful.

It's just... Not that it was never tried. It's that it was

never succeeded. No, I mean, that's also

wrong. It's completely wrong.

Because communism is not, the word

communism should not be defined by the technical

term of a future

hypothetical mode of production that is a

consequence of the development of

history. The term communism

should describe a political, unifying principle

of state, a principle of revolutionary politics, and revolutionary movement of society, for example, and that is not, that was succeeded. That absolutely succeeded.

Communist states were very successful in what the plans they actually set about to achieve.

This notion of the true communism or the real communism does not have an immediate or pressing significance.

You don't have to worry about that.

That is not the essential thing.

That's not something

you can control. That's not something you can

enact willfully or voluntarily.

If you argue that

its ideas were implemented...

So, if you're arguing that the ideas were implemented so if you're arguing

that the ideas were

utopian

oh yeah

no I know

there's a difference

between

utopians

well

there are obviously

utopian communists

because there are

people in every

belief system

that take it to the extreme

of everything

will be perfect.

But they're not taken seriously.

Utopians conflate the principle of action and the principle of political existence with the fantasy of some future society

those are not the same

absolutely not the same

it would be like if

just like oh a hundred years in the future

theoretically something could happen

or it's like saying

or it's like saying

yeah I want to live in this perfect society,

so I'm going to take up arms to make

this society happen. Yeah, that's not

Marxism. That's utopianism.

That too is utopianism.

If you don't take up arms, how will it happen?

I'm just curious, because

Mark did talk about the rising of the proletariat and then obviously

in the Soviet Union it did happen that way with the SARS.

Because the purpose is not creating a society according to the whims of fancies of your consciousness.

The purpose is being responsive to the concrete class antagonisms that already exist.

So nobody took up arms in Russia because they wanted to create a utopian society.

They took up arms because they wanted peace, land, and bread. They wanted

out of the war. They wanted

land reform. They wanted

very concrete things that

gave body and gave

form to the actual

concrete class struggle within Russia.

It's not the same thing as fighting for

a communist mode

of production. You can't

fight for a communist mode of production because

a communist mode of production is not determined

politically.

It's not determined politically. It's not determined politically.

How so? I mean,

if you get rid of... It's a communist

society, as Marx describes it,

is not determined politically. It's determined

according to the objective laws of economic development

of the motor production.

It's totally different.

And the way he described it was very precise, not in the sense that he gave detail, but the way it happens was that

eventually the things that are part of capitalism

become superfluous.

So it gets sublated.

It, it, um,

the very

logic of capitalism

itself or the logic of the current mode of production gives rise to a qualitatively new development.

It's not this radical rupture where overnight everything about economics suddenly changes because you're experimenting with this new society. That's not how Marx described it. Now, the rupture and the violence or whatever happens, yes, at the political level as a consequence of the development of class struggle. But the class struggle is not waged over a utopian society. The class struggle is waged over the very immediate logic of a social conflict where the determination of how we go forward as a society policy-wise starts to be under contention, so it starts with trade union consciousness.

And then it goes further to the question of monopolies and monopoly capital and whether these monopolies should be allowed to exist

and control our politics,

it gets to the heart of questions like sovereignty.

How can we maintain our sovereignty

is if we have these monopolies

hijacking our government, right? So class struggle takes always takes a concrete form based on the historical logic of a given society and what's meaningful and sensible to it. The proletarian class struggle does not radically introduce ex-Nehalo a completely new logic just based on the whims and fancies and fantasies of consciousness that says, I want to live in this new society that's different.

That is not an engine of class struggle. The engine of class struggle

is the here and now contradictions of our society. To me, correct me, if I'm wrong,

it sounds like you aren't in Hanley anti-capitalist. It's more that you believe that there is

something better out there. Correct me. No, it's more that you believe that there is something better out there

correct no it's more like

it's more like

there are flaws that need to be changed

of capitalism itself

naturally develop it

and drive it towards the direction of

socialism it's just that politics acts as a

fetter to that.

Therefore, the proletariat must rest political control from the bourgeoisie, from the monopoly

capitalist class or the imperialist class to allow

the mode of production to develop more or less

naturally. That's the idea.

What's interesting is that you

are saying that, but also saying

that you should not take up arms, you should

not fight for it. So are we supposed to... I didn't say that. You actually said, you should not fight for it. I didn't say that.

You actually said that you should not be taking up arms that is

not way for you. Okay, look, look,

you're being extremely imprecise

in terms of... That's

exactly what you said, actually.

It's what I said in reference to what?

Taking up arms for what?

Okay, for peaceland and bread?

No, I didn't say that they were wrong for doing that for peaceland and bread.

I agree with you on that.

I said Marxism is not about taking up arms because of the whims and fancies

of wanting a new society. That's not what it's about.

Absolutely. Yeah, it's about taking up the arms

to replace, to not

to fight for police line and

to get rid of a government

and replace it. It's about taking up arms, for example.

I'm not advocating this, but hypothetically, in a revolutionary situation in the U.S.,

it would be to regain national sovereignty, to have land reform, to cancel the debt,

you know, things that are concrete that actually compel people

to want to make change that they know is

possible and immediate

no one is going to be compelled

to make change to take up arms

to fight for a hypothetical society

in someone's head

that sounds better I mean mean, no, people, there's

an immediate pressing antagonism and they respond to it.

So I never said, I never advocated pacifism.

You focused on me saying, take up arms, and you overlooked what I said was the qualifying premise, which was for the sake of utopian society.

That's not Marx. Marxism does not advocate taking up arms to create a utopian society or even a society that you think is better.

The question of violence within politics, within Marxism, has always been a pragmatic, real politic question of the inevitable logic of class struggle and the nature of revolutionary change. But it has never been, and that's politics,

and that's why Marxism was always a Klausvizian tradition, right?

War is an extension of politics and vice versa.

It's a no-brainer.

The reason Marxism was always Klausvizian because they always rejected this stupid idea

that politics is somehow this neutral marketplace of ideas. Well, Marxists said, no, it's warfare. Politics is war. It's the same thing. So this is where revolutionary, um, but I don't advocate violence. You know, it's illegal. I don't advocate violence

you know it's illegal I don't advocate for

also we're not at a stage in which such a thing is meaningful

because we still have rights

we still have a constitution

so you believe that at the stage we're currently at

from what you just said

it's not that isn you just said it's not

that isn't as bad it's just

that there isn't a need to take

up arms or at that state where it's kind of like

oh this needs to be changed

that would be reckless adventurism

because the masses

are not in a state of consciousness for such a thing. And moreover,

the contradictions within the state have not been developed to such a point that such a thing

would be meaningful outside of lawless adventurism. So that's

why. Anyway, thank you for

coming up, Nick.

There's a couple people requesting.

I'll bring this guy from Bosnia on.

Yeah, I was just going to bring him up.

Yeah.

Hey, As,

Hey, Mubarak.

I just wanted to ask,

what's the difference between

existence and being?

You mentioned it in one of your broadcast or whatever.

Thank you so much, Ed Mubarak, by the way.

I always saw existence as a particular way of being, right?

Whereas being itself, being as such, while not incompatible with existence,

while not unrelated to existence, does not necessarily already imply determination.

All right, thank you.

For sure. there's two people requesting both seem pretty sympathetic with ACP politics

I will wait then it's all, we'll wait then.

It's all right.

We'll wait. You know, You know, Is this working?

Yeah, hello, yeah, I can hear you.

Yeah, hello, Haas.

I've joined this

space to defend the

honor of Australia.

You have been

slandering and defaming up.

I don't give a fuck. I'm not even, I sound and flaming up. I don't give a fuck.

I'm not even... I... I sound so

boring. Like, I don't... I literally don't give a fuck.

Sorry, I just don't care.

I'm about to go to... I'm about to, like,

fall asleep from that proposal.

I don't care. That's that proposal. I don't care.

That's the thing.

I don't fucking care.

My number one problem with Australia is I keep having to hear about it.

There's no honor to defend.

I don't have anything to do with Australia.

It's a country with 30 million people.

Leave me alone.

Literally just leave me alone.

I don't fucking care.

California never bothers me like this, and California is not its own country, and it's more relevant to me, you know?

And it's like, it's crazy.

The narcissism is crazy. infrared or ACP people please stop requesting because I'm not going to bring you up if I could see in your profile we're going to wrap this up in about two minutes we're going to wrap the space up in about two minutes by the way okay fort oh he's like here we go

a Canadian

nationalist

that's great

we got all the

tethers here

all right

go ahead

hi

us

how are Haas.

How are you today?

Thank you for handing me the mic.

I just wanted to get your take on something because I was listening to your previous speaker

as yourself and I can see, obviously, that you have a good understanding of Marxist Leninism properly. It was not meant to be this sort of reckless utopian project. But I wanted to get your take on

James Burnham

and Samuel Francis.

Because I believe that

James Burnham and Samuel

Francis, that is Samuel T.

Francis, the author of

Leviathan and its enemies, James

Burnham famously wrote the managerial

revolution. And in the 1940s, James

Burnham... Your question's really boring.

Holistic, go ahead.

Yeah, I had a

question about socialism, Marxism,

in relation to modern science.

All right? Okay. Make it quit, please.

Yeah, so I have,

I seek out authors that are anti-science,

anti-reason, and anti-mathematics.

And in particular, I do seem to be seeing a lot of Marxist thinkers that do seem to be in agreement of the way that I think.

In particular, I guess this guy, Joseph Dietzkin, he has a book like Socialistic Science Against a Reason and Other Faking Gay Shirt.

And I'm curious, what is the overarching position on Marxism in relation to science writ large in mathematics, if you could comment on that too.

Well, Marxism rejects, first of all, the rigid division of labor within thought.

It rejects these artificial barriers they create that say you're not allowed to

comprehend these things in a way that's fundamentally interrelated so that's the first thing the

second thing is that Marxism rejects formalism it rejects metaphysical formalism and it rejects

empiricism as well it rejects empiricism as well. It rejects this notion of

science somehow being unrelated or not fundamentally interconnected with almost all other

aspects of human existence. So Marxism differs from

modern science in many considerable ways. It rejects the notion of modern science's subject-object

distinction, for example. Marxism regards history as a so-called object of science,

but simultaneously not just an object, also qualities that would otherwise be called subjective, right?

Active, prescriptive, norm called subjective, right? Active, prescriptive,

normative even, right?

And Marxism regards the science of history

to be a science of praxis as well,

a science of responding to it.

So, you know, Marxist science is very different.

Marxism doesn't say that human beings are like animals and we have to study them in a lab coat.

For Marxism, science is about knowledge.

You know, that's the key thing.

It's about having a clear, systematized record of knowledge

of the development of history, of class struggle, of developments within history, right?

And it's knowledge of a logic of struggle. It's knowledge of a logic of struggle,

it's knowledge of a logic of succession,

it is knowledge of relationships and so on and so on,

and this type of knowledge is not something

you can just confine in a laboratory and be considered scientific according to modern scientific standards. You just can't.

Yeah, so I'm going to, I see some of my friends in here. I'm going to get a lot of paper this, which is fine. I can take it. But I'm actually fine. I'm in agreement

with a lot of that. I see the main

problem in modern science is

the reduction of everything to

analysis, and the problem is it does appear

to be useful and true because the model

fitting that's based in the dualism,

the artificial dualism, is true, but only inside of your mind and analytically.

And every time something is not true, the model is simply altered to fit the facts the way they turned up, and then it just goes on as before.

So I don't know.

Is my starting to become more open to this socialistic sort of thinking? I don't know. Haas, am I starting to become more open

to this socialistic sort of thinking?

I'm not sure, but I did sort of

enjoy that answer, to be honest.

For sure. Can I say

one more thing, or ask you one more thing?

No, but I'll let you. Go ahead.

Amazing. Thank you, Oz. What a nice guy. So, it's

related, but what are your thoughts on statistics?

Do you believe they are real, or do you believe they are simply black

magic as I do? I think

that some of them could be useful, but

it's an extremely manipulated practice of statistics.

Extremely manipulated is what I'll say. It's extremely, extremely twisted and manipulated.

And unless you you are a trained statistician or you're like a mathematician

and you know what's going on

uh you cannot really have in for you that's where the problem lies the

train ones are the worse.

Well, sure, but, but, you know, a lot of people can't even comprehend, you know, what's even being communicated or said with, you know, statistical, you know, I don't know, presentations,

you know. So don't know presentations you know so well yeah thank you i appreciate the answer i thank you for not hitting on me this time great chat thanks for what for what hitting

is he talking about?

I don't know. I don't even know.

People just say anything.

Can you just say everything and anything?

You know?

Anyway,

I think he meant hating.

I think he meant to say hating.

Yeah, hating.

All right, for sure.

Well,

um,

anyway, uh, all right you're sure well um anyway uh huh all right um All right. This space, did I hit record for the space itself?

I hope I did.

But if not, it'll be on my channel.

Marks! What's going on? Carty

Marks. Cardi Marks. What's up?

So I think we're done. I think we're done.

I think we're done with the space.

We do two-hour confronted chairman spaces, and we're done with this one.

So we're going to end the space.

They're not ending the stream, though, so you can come kick.com slash infrared if you would like to continue to listen to me speak but so well thanks for co-hosting we're going to end the space and wrap it up all right well that was a very boring space and I just don't have the patience that's's really the issue. I don't have patience. One set, guys. You know, You know, You know, You know, You know, You know, You know, You know, You know, You know, Australia Stanley. Thank you so much appreciate you bro we haven't we have an interesting stream going

guys i started my stream so early that we're we're not, we're going to start doing reacting to YouTube soon.

But we, we have a very interesting stream because we've been, we've been, you know, we've been streaming.

And it's been very interesting, you know there's a drew pavlou alice jones there was a drew pavlou

alex jones today i want to react to that for sure. Harold, what's going on?

So, give me one second, guys.

Give me one second.

That's on X, or it's in show requests?

Okay, for sure. You know, all right uh so let's get into it.

Let's get into it right now. Show requests.

Okay, it's on X.

All right.

And then there's something else.

So there's what?

The DSA has factions.

Let's see the...

Let's look at the factions with...

Bro. Donald Parkinson. It's so sick. bro

Donald Parkinson

it's so sad

this guy is just like

Donald Parkinson

ES

what's up

yo Donald

why don't

Donald why did you just form a party

are you really content having two seats within the DSA?

And that's like praxis to you?

You're just, how fucking, like,

just be principled and actually, like, form an organization that reflects your values, know oh sos what's up it's so lame

it's like just dude just actually build a principle that reflects your values sorry actually uh

build an organization that reflects your principles don't just like join an organization that you don't, doesn't reflect your principles and then form a caucus within it that gets two seats.

You've been in it for like a decade.

There's no, you know, the Bolsheviks, a few decades, they took state power.

It's been a decade. You still took state power. It's been a decade.

You still have two seats.

It's fucking ridiculous.

You know,

I don't know what the time scale

for this is,

but it's pretty silly.

You know,

just form your own organization.

You can't because it turns

into a sect.

That's why.

It's so sad. There's no possibility of

principled organization for this generation.

It's really sad. And by this generation, I mean millennials who are always at

each other's throats were the most stupid petty bullshit.

Vision. Donald could himself

even be well-meaning, and it wouldn't matter, because there'd be some

fucking millennials that fuck it all up because they got their feelings here or some shit.

Two question. This is logical.

Okay.

Germany's preparing description.

Five countries have launched it, including women.

They say it's a 30-year war.

They will break up Russia.

That's upon millions of Ukrainians in a genocide, the holiday.

And...

...inil-4 is literally a common.

Understand that? 24-year-olds. So did you know? and is literally a common understand that

24 year olds

so did you know

guys this is really boring

I'm not

I'm not watching that at all.

It's just like, it's really boring.

Um,

I have better things to do than watch something like that. freaking iPhone is stuck in my pocket.

Sorry, guys.

Sorry for having an iPhone really lange

it's really

cringe You know, You know, You know, All right.

All right. I'm a huge asshole.

I am just a jerk and a mean person.

I'm a bad person and a mean person.

I'm not nice.

And the reason is because...

The reason is because I'm literally the fucking French fries from the adult swim show.

What is it called?

Frylock.

Aquatine Hunger Force.

I'm literally just like Frylock.

My whole personality. you don't belong here, Haas. You're an Arab, you're a Muslim, you're Lebanese, you're a brown, you're this, you're that.

All while my nuts are hanging imagine that all while my nuts are hanging and i'm walking out in the open

as a conqueror walking as a conqueror can you imagine that as a conqueror as a conqueror as a conqueror as a conqueror i'm not here to be nelson mandela i'm here to be Ganga's Khan. I'm a conqueror.

I'm an Arab Muslim who is here to conquer land.

Understand that.

100,000% Islamic.

Foreigner.

Strangeness.

Foreignness.

How strange.

How foreign.

How strange. How foreign. How scary. Honestly. How scary. Thank you. Oh! Oh. You know, I just don't even have things to talk about. I just am not used to ending the stream this early in the night, but I guess I should, right?

I guess I should.

Ah, YouTube videos.

Let's react to some YouTube videos. and I'm going so hard with cardio.

I've been running.

I don't ever run.

I started running.

Can you believe that?

I'm sweating.

I'm running. I'm running on the treadmill. Can you imagine how believe that? I'm sweating. I'm running.

I'm running on the treadmill.

Can you imagine how stupid that is a man like me running?

But it happens.

But it's kind of silly, you know?

I'm a marcher.

I march.

I don't run.

Who do I run for?

Nothing. If I can't walk there, if I can't march there,

I'll take a horse.

I run for nothing. It's stupid.

Ozempic, hazenpic.

You know, if you just, I just, you know what I've gotten the delusion of?

I'm, I've been pretty steady 175.

And I've just been eating like total garbage.

I've been eating burgers and fries and Taco Bell and just complete absolute fucking like garbage.

And my thought is that, you know, if I just do cardio and lift, I can kind of just eat

whatever I want. I mean, I work hard. Why not? I work out every day. I do cardio on the treadmill for 45 minutes per day. Minimum. I break it up, though, but I do minimum 45 minutes. I lift pretty intensely in succession that alone is cardio

and it's not good for weight I disagree I think it speeds up the metabolism the metabolism

so to speak it does beat up the metabolism it speeds metabolism, so to speak.

It does beat up the metabolism.

It speeds it up, so to speak.

It absolutely does.

Kills your energy long term.

You know, I think that food is not that deep that's a and and and i

know this is wrong and the peters will disagree with this and the peters are right i'm wrong i just

have a delusion my delusion is that um's not that deep. You just

have fuel. Whatever, whatever

it doesn't kill you, it's okay.

Just fuel.

It's more about what your lifestyle.

If you're running a lot and lifting,

it doesn't really matter

so much. Wait, you can have McDonald's. You can have whatever. It doesn't really matter so much.

Wait, you can have McDonald's. You can have whatever.

It doesn't matter.

Just enough fuel for the tank.

You know, some people say the 87 is better than the 89 grade fuel.

And it doesn't really matter.

You know, I've never seen proof it matters.

I've never, and don't over it.

You just don't have to eat a, yeah, you just shouldn't eat a lot.

Like, you know, for a 10-piece at McDonald's,

10-piece and a McChicken, I mean, it's fine.

But then you start getting the large fry and the quarter pounder and you're

eating too much and it's like chill out i eat about 2 000 calories a day you know so so i it's like

i'm in the clear i eat 2 000 calories a day doesn't really matter how i get them you can have a burger doesn't matter uh i should be

having about a lot more than 2 000 um but i i'm i'm uh i'm losing weight.

So when I build, I'll start doing 3,000, I suppose, when I bulk. I'm looking for YouTube videos to watch. Oh Thank you. You know, You know, I'm literally looking through YouTube and there's like nothing to watch, unfortunately. Let's watch this East Germany thing.

Ugh.

Ugh. and i'm bhae and the uh...

uh...

uh...

the

uh...

uh...

uh... uh...

uh... uh... uh...

uh...

uh... and the I'm going to on On the On the

On the

At the

Rapp there's there's there's there

there's

there's

there the

there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's there's so many people

that are in this chat That like by themselves just sit and watch videos like this

And I'm the one streaming it now

Now you see what you look like

We just watch these you know we just

For our solidarity I'm like we just watch these you know we just we just for our solidarity. So we'll want to be

For our world

So we're we can can't For our world So we're

We're going to

For the next in

We're going to

We're going to How did all that just How did all that just disappear. How did all that just disappear

you know

God what is it

what a horrible thing that happened

dismantling this

this um

hmm

hmm this will give me some good recommendation Hmm. Hmm.

This will give me some good recommendations.

Uh.

Oh.

Um. You know what is an interesting

The song

The song of Pregozance March Is this real? You know what is an interesting song.

The Song of Pregozance March.

Is this real?

Hold on. Why can't I find it?

Is it... Where is the song?

Wow, what the fuck?

Hold on. I think this is it. is this a guy is this a i or a real song?

Let me check.

Is this a real song?

Uh, it came out 11 months ago.

I don't know.

We're gonna be. uh it came out 11 months ago i don't know we're we on tanking we're we're in taggown through

prompki with krebelk and from krebelkken We're on the tanker. We're on tanker, we're on the tanker and we're onigalcom.

We're, we're on tank.

We're on tank.

We're, we, we're on tank.

We're on tank.

We're on tank.

And we're we're on tanking. We're onigalcom. We're going. it's not a bad song and it's a good song. I mean, it's a good.

That's what I'm trying to say. I mean, I don't endorse song. I mean, it sounds good. That's what I'm trying to say.

I mean, I don't endorse anything.

It's just...

The song sounds pretty good. and you're right. I want you to go out.

I'm going to go. your your

your

your

your

castle

you're

you're

they're

will

will be

people

and people and with and if you imagine being imagine being

imagine being like a rich

billionaire like in Moscow

and this starts blasting on the speakers

you just walk outside

you walk out from your balcony

and this is just blasting

this song

all in love is some of music balcony and this is just blasting this song. We're on tank We're on taugan, Dalry, we're

We're

We're on

tank

We're

We're

We're We're

We're

We're

We

on tank We

We're

on oligarch

We I'm going to come. I don't know who made this song, but it's pretty funny.

Who made this?

Who made this song?

Who made this? I don't know who made this.

You know, Putin said he's going to retaliate, by the way.

He said he's going to retaliate soon.

But I hope

this is not

another Operation

True Promise 3.

You know, you know. True Promise 3 is coming. Trust the plan. Oh man.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's coming.

Any day now.

Any day now so there's a tic-tok account that I found, and it's like deep schizophrenia, right?

And it's like deep schizophrenia, right?

And it's this like, I don't even know what it is.

It's like this AI.

And it is such a fascinating account. It's like

it's like this character

that like has

it's speed. I don't even know how to get the AI to

sound like this.

But it's like, um, and he like looks like he's like a character from like, like, I don't know,

like a 90s.

He looks like a mascot, like a mascot of something.

I don't know.

I can't describe it.

It's hard.

He's like, um, so did you know that under the pyramids, there are mind receptors. And according to Pentagon documents, these mind recepts, like, all of his all of the videos are like that they're like um so there's a

theory that this is actually a prison and everything in the I don't know

I really enjoy those videos though

you know

I can't I don't even know

what their username is they usually just come up

on my TikTok

for you.

There's also another

TikTok format of

of, there's

a TikTok format that I love

and I just know the song

but it is so beautiful.

It's a Chinese.

It's a pro-China thing.

I can't find it.

Oh, no.

Hold on.

I will find it. me a second okay hold on we're gonna watch this Oh, what the hell?

Hold on.

Oh, okay. hold on oh okay okay spelled it wrong it's a Chinese song and it's a great format it It's just beautiful. I'm trying to find the one that says music in America because that's the best one. Oh, where is it? I can't find it.

But they use this song as the meme template. It's like It's like first, it just says running in America

Then it'll show

It'll show something really bad about like

Like some clip of America

That's really bad

And then it'll just show running in China

And it's better

And always is when the beat drops It's so great It's so great it's really bad and then it'll just show running in china and it's better and always

it's when the beat drops it's so great this is when it's so good This song goes so hard

I love that song

Um

But I can't show it to you

Because I can't find the video

I just have the song

Anyway can't find the video. I just have the song.

Anyway... All righty. Gladie, what's up?

Appreciate you. appreciate you all right we're going to end the stream i have nothing else to present to you nothing else to say

and i'm hungry so I'm going to go eat

I agree bring Indonesia into bricks I agree with that

anyway guys I'm going to go eat food

nope there will not be a stream tomorrow we'm going to go eat food.

Nope, there will not be a stream tomorrow.

We're going to be streaming.

Sunday.

Sunday.

Sunday.

Sunday.

Sunday.

Well, guys, I am definitely human.

Anyway, guys... I'm only human after all. I fucking hate that song.

I'm only human after all. I fucking hate that song.

I'm only human after all.

Fucking hate the stupid songs.

What's the other song?

Whoa. Oh, oh, oh.

These are like,

um,

what's the other song?

Anxiety.

What's the anxiety song?

Anxiety.

All these fucking disgusting songs that come from, uh, anxiety all these

fucking disgusting songs that come

from Imagine dragons

right? They all sound

I'm only human

after all

There's a specific

genre of like

I don't even know like

what the demographic is but it's like

people who are into like really cringe

like cool

stuff like you ever hear the one that's like yo ho no it's like clearly this like viking larp

it's like viking larp they're like this isarp. They're like, this is so cool.

We're like pirates.

Yo!

It's always like fucking 50-year-old, middle-aged.

I don't know.

I thought, yeah, but I hate the Yoho song.

I hate Viking Larp a lot.

It's the ancestral Viking.

It's my ancestral Viking genetics.

And it's like, dude, you're fucking Irish.

You don't have any fucking Viking ancestry.

You're fucking Irish.

Shut the fuck up, you stupid LARPER!

I don't get the Viking thing. The Viking thing is disgusting. I don't understand the

appeal. Is the appeal that

it's just like a pre-Christian

thing? And they're like, oh, we're

not losers who are like Bible

thumpers. Yo-ho,

we are open-minded.

Vikings, not bigots.

We worship the trees.

It's like liptards can just Larp as like

being progressive

and being barbaric,

I guess.

It's Phoenician

it's the white

people's Phoenician Larp.

Yeah, that's true. That's exactly what it is.

It's Phoenician Larp for white people.

You notice Pagan Larp is like the cancer of nations?

Like, for example,

pharaohism in Egypt.

We're going back to our pharaonic.

Shut the fuck up,

you goddamn larping dumb fucks.

And then you got the Greeks,

the Hellenism.

Hellenism and Pharaohism and Vikingism and all these stupid, disgusting, larp. And then MBS and they're even doing the pre-Islamic pagan larp in Saudi Arabia now, you know?

Can we stop this?

Can we stop this, uh,

this nonsense, you know, fascination with these, you know,

it's just like, um, stop this, like, ethno, I don't even know what the term for this is.

It's like ethno, yeah, and then the Iranian, you know, Diaspora, who are Shaw supporters that larp ziristrianism without even knowing

anything about it by the way um pre yeah pre is pre abrahamic larp ideologies are unforgivable.

They're all unforgivable, all of them.

If you live in a country that is predominantly of an Abrahamic faith,

and you are larping the pre-Abrahamaic

society.

You're a stupid, disgusting larper, and I disagree with you a lot.

And I think that you are coping and you are you are coping

and you are

engaging in nonsense

you know,

basically.

I'm a desert

dweller saying this.

You know,

Hamza, I don't even know why the fuck you say that.

You know, it's like, what the hell are you?

There's not a goddamn desert in Lebanon, and you know that.

You know, stop the cope.

Stop the nonsense.

I was there.

There were no deserts. There were no deserts.

There were no deserts.

You know, Hamza, you know, you are, you are like, you know what you are, you're like the

Wendigo forest people.

You are this, you're like slender slavs in the forest with really long arms and legs, and you're just running around at night in the forest.

Making really scary noises, by the way.

And it's just very disturbing.

Okay?

That's all I could say.

Bosnians are anything but slender?

What are you talking about?

Duolip?

Oh, she's Albanian.

Never mind.

Anyway, guys.

Huh. Never mind. Anyway, guys, um... Ah.

I fear the...

Yeah, I do fear the forest.

I'm not going to lie.

Like, I do fear that.

I have nightmares being in a dark forest

in the middle of a dark forest.

That's fucking terrifying.

Like, it's literally dark all day and you're stuck there and you don't know how to get out why would you be there get out

why would you want to be there I mean, forests are nice to look at from without, without going in them.

I like forests.

I like what they look like.

I just don't like going inside of them.

I love the woods at night. Well, me too. Provided that I can leave. Provided I can leave them.

You know, I like, by the way, I like...

By the way, I like Michigan.

Because I like autumn.

I'm a big fan of autumn.

And Lebanon doesn't have that.

They don't have that.

They'll never have that.

So it's part of my personality that i like autumn and i like the i like how it smells you know i like

the pumpkin um stuff and like the um the the donuts the cider donuts apple cider it's all great i see you know it's like

that's fundamental to me like Lebanon doesn't have that and so you see you know i'm racially

lebanese quote unquote but I you know

it's a sad way of living to be in September or October and there's no cider and donuts and you

don't have that smell in the air that's all that's my whole life that's everything you know

so you know?

So, you know, I like Lebanon too, but to be honest,

there's, there's very, it's very different.

But, uh, it's a shame because i'm going to be very old by the time halloween starts okay let's see what's going to well uh well i guess that's my cue to, to, to, to, end the stream.

My cue to end the stream.

Well, guys, it's hard to end the stream but I have to

because I have to

because I have to eat food

anyway I'm I feel like there's something I'm forgetting to say.

Like, I'm forgetting something.

I feel like I'm forgetting something.

Nothing.

Nothing.

All right, nothing.

Anyway... Goodbye.